1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,400 What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast. 2 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,640 I am Jonathan. 3 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,240 And I'm Caleb. 4 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,360 And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but 5 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,500 also enjoy a lot of the nerd life. 6 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:40,400 This week on the podcast we are skipping over Funko Focus. 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,920 Just nothing intrigues us at all this week. 8 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,840 So yeah, that's really all there is to say. 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Unfortunately, that's how it goes sometimes. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,920 It's just been that way the past few weeks. 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,040 It do be like that sometimes. 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,760 But we are not skipping over 4K Spotlight. 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,000 We do have quite a big movie coming out on 4K and Blu-ray this week that, no surprise 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,780 to anyone, I've already pre-ordered the Best Buy Steelbook 4 because I'm not taking a chance 15 00:01:10,780 --> 00:01:14,560 of not getting the Steelbook. 16 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:20,080 And then we'll be moving on to Through the Wall where we have a trailer to talk about 17 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,320 that premiered at the DC Fan Dome this past week or week end. 18 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,760 Isn't it this past weekend? 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Considering this comes out Monday, this was like two weeks, two weekends ago I guess. 20 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Yeah. 21 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Well, actually, technically no because it came out on a, on a, no not Wednesday. 22 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,040 Came out on a Sunday? 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,320 No, not Sunday. 24 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,000 No, it was on Saturday. 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:54,040 It was on Saturday and it was kind of like this all day event. 26 00:01:54,040 --> 00:02:00,840 So yeah, so this was on Saturday. 27 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,800 So just, just over a week when this, when this episode gets released. 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,520 Okay, so not bad. 29 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,920 Not bad at all. 30 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:18,640 And then we'll also be talking about some casting for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3. 31 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:22,760 Got some big, big casting news to talk about with that. 32 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:31,680 And then, and then we'll be moving on to our headliner of the evening which will be this 33 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:38,640 episode where evil dies and we will be breaking down Halloween kills. 34 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,640 Hell yeah. 35 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,640 Yeah. 36 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:44,840 And we've got a story for you guys. 37 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:52,040 So, before we get carried away, Caleb, what do you say we get started? 38 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,520 Say let's do it. 39 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,200 All right. 40 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Everyday, we're surrounded by media, books, movies, art, music, games, apps, podcasts, 41 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,940 etc, etc. 42 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:16,160 With this constant bombardment, it's easy to miss great media gems in the chaos. 43 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,160 But fret not. 44 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,920 You've come to the right place, my friend. 45 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:23,360 I'm Jason and I love media. 46 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,160 I invite you to check out the Mixed Media Forest podcast. 47 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:33,800 The podcast where I trudge through the forests of media to find hidden gems for you, the 48 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,800 listener. 49 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Every episode of Mixed Media Forest is chock full of fun, reviews, nostalgia, positivity, 50 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:50,000 news, rants, stories, and recommendations about all things media. 51 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Again, that's the Mixed Media Forest podcast created on Anchor podcasting app and available 52 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,400 everywhere find podcasts can be found. 53 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Give it a listen. 54 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,080 It's what all the cool kids are doing. 55 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 All right. 56 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,160 So first up, 4K Spotlight. 57 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,960 So this week, the big new release is the Suicide Squad. 58 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Yes, James Gunn Suicide Squad is coming to 4K and Blu-ray as well as digital copy. 59 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Well, I'm pretty sure it's already on digital copy. 60 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:32,000 But anyway, so we'll be getting a regular 4K and Blu-ray release as well as a 4K Best 61 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,160 Buy exclusive steelbook. 62 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,920 No shocker there. 63 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,680 And then it will also be getting a target exclusive Blu-ray that comes with collectible 64 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,680 cards. 65 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Kind of boring in my opinion, but that's just me. 66 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,720 Yeah. 67 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 It's an interesting exclusive. 68 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Yeah. 69 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,040 I mean, the steel, what I like about the steelbook is it kind of it's going with the kind of 70 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,560 same design that the first Suicide Squad went with. 71 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:11,720 And even though the first Suicide Squad steelbook was like all the skulls, this time it's like 72 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,560 how their name kind of makes their face. 73 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,000 It's really freaking cool. 74 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:24,360 So they have like all of their names and then they're surrounded by just like bullet shells. 75 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Yeah, that looks super cool. 76 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,440 But not my favorite though. 77 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 No, that's fair. 78 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,880 That's absolutely fair. 79 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:42,200 I mean, but you know me, I have to own all the DC steelbooks as well as the Marvel ones. 80 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,200 That's fair. 81 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Honestly, I am really digging the target exclusive. 82 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,760 I know you said that one's kind of boring, but I'm kind of digging it. 83 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,760 Okay. 84 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Wait. 85 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,760 Yeah, I think. 86 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Okay. 87 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,720 I think that's the right one, right? 88 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,040 It's the one that looks kind of like a concrete wall with a big asshole in it. 89 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,040 Yes. 90 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,040 Okay. 91 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Yeah, I'm digging it. 92 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Okay. 93 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,040 Fair enough. 94 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Fair enough. 95 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,840 I'd be interested to see what the rest of it looked like though. 96 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:18,040 The only images that I have are the cover. 97 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Oh, if you go. 98 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:28,720 So if you actually go to Target's website on it, it gives you a full in-depth look. 99 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,420 So yeah, so it's just a regular Blu-ray, but excuse me. 100 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:42,200 So the character cards, I guess on the front is kind of the same thing. 101 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,360 That's what's on the steelbook. 102 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,400 It's like their name and their logo. 103 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,720 But then on the back is like the actual person. 104 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,680 It's like their actual character. 105 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,080 That's kind of cool. 106 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Yeah. 107 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,360 Don't say cool. 108 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,560 I don't want to double dip on this. 109 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,360 I mean, I personally would rat. 110 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,300 I feel like I could do like a really cool Suicide Squad display. 111 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:18,560 But the only way that I feel I'd be able to pull that off is if I had two to get like 112 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,160 the front and the back. 113 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,160 That's fair. 114 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,080 I mean, I'm pretty sure that's how they are. 115 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,080 Their front and back. 116 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,080 I mean, they could be single. 117 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,080 I don't know. 118 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Like, I know that they're like their individual cards, but I would need two of them because 119 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,880 I'd want to display the front and the back. 120 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,880 Okay. 121 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Well, yeah, I don't know. 122 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,880 That's what I meant. 123 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,520 I mean, like, I'm assuming that it's front and back. 124 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,040 I don't think that it like one is the face and then one's like the full body shot face 125 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,320 full body shot. 126 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Oh, yeah. 127 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,680 That probably be a little too many cards to cram into one Blu-ray set. 128 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Yeah, no joke. 129 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,320 I feel like I could have fun with that though. 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,200 I feel like I could have a lot of fun with that. 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,920 I wish that they gave you more cards though. 132 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,200 Yeah, because they're missing a couple squad members. 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Yeah, they are. 134 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Well, actually, were they? 135 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,240 They're missing. 136 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Oh my gosh. 137 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Oh shit. 138 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,240 What's his name? 139 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,680 What's his name? 140 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Okay, spoiler alert guys for the suicide squad if you haven't watched it. 141 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Okay. 142 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Remember the one that like turns on them? 143 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,360 It's just like, hey, you know, I'm the one that called you guys. 144 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,360 That's right. 145 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Get his face blown off. 146 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Yeah. 147 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,200 I thought some of the cards didn't match up. 148 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Like I was looking at the cards and it was like, oh, the thinker and savant and I didn't 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 see those two in like the other list. 150 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,760 Oh, okay. 151 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,560 And so that's what I was like, oh, like, okay. 152 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:01,960 And then like Captain Boomerang too. 153 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,560 I didn't see his, like I saw his character card. 154 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:07,920 I just didn't see his like face card. 155 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:08,920 Okay. 156 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,640 And so yeah, that kind of confused me. 157 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,040 But yeah, all of those match up. 158 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Black guard was not his name. 159 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Yes. 160 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Okay. 161 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,400 So that's who they're missing. 162 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Yeah. 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,400 They're missing a few of them. 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,400 Kind of a bummer. 165 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,880 And trying to, I mean, at least they threw in Weasel, you know. 166 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Very true. 167 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,160 At least we can all be happy about that. 168 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Can you think of anybody else that they're missing besides Black Guard? 169 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,080 Yeah. 170 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,080 They're missing Javelin. 171 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Oh yeah, they are. 172 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,720 They're missing. 173 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,200 What the shit? 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,200 TDK. 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,200 Yeah. 176 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,200 What the hell? 177 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,200 Let's see. 178 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Who else? 179 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,680 They're missing a lot. 180 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:52,680 That's bullshit. 181 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:56,960 Those are my three of my favorite members. 182 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,960 I know. 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:04,720 It's kind of weird that they include Savant and Thinker. 184 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,240 I don't think the Thinker should be in this at all. 185 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 No, I don't think Waller should be either. 186 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Yeah. 187 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,600 It's called the Suicide Squad. 188 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Only put members of the Suicide Squad. 189 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,720 Yeah. 190 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:23,280 So I would take Thinker and Waller out and replace them with a couple other of actual 191 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,560 Suicide Squad members. 192 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:30,200 I don't think I would put Black Guard in just because he's an asshole. 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,120 But I would put, I put in Javelin and TDK. 194 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Yeah. 195 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Against those two. 196 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,040 I'm trying to think of who else they could put in. 197 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,440 It's just so weird that they... 198 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,440 Yeah. 199 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:53,360 It's odd that they would put in Thinker, Captain Boomerang, Savant, Waller, and whatever. 200 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,320 I guess you can include Weasel if you wanted to. 201 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,320 But it's just weird that they include those four because Thinker was a villain. 202 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,240 Amanda Waller is technically the chief. 203 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,240 Yeah. 204 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,760 And Savant and Boomerang were part of the first team to go in. 205 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,840 They had such a small role. 206 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Which I'm still bitter about. 207 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,440 Yeah. 208 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,960 So it's kind of like why include those two? 209 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:28,480 The only reason to include Boomerang or Savant is just because Captain Boomerang came back 210 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:34,480 and Michael Rooker played Savant. 211 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,160 Yeah. 212 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,160 And Weasel you kind of just throw in because he's Weasel. 213 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,960 Yeah like Weasel makes sense. 214 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,960 Yeah. 215 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,960 When all is said and done. 216 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,240 And Waller, I mean I guess you can let that one slide. 217 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,840 But Savant, Boomerang, and Thinker. 218 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,840 Like no. 219 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,840 The only one that I cannot let slide is Thinker. 220 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,560 That is the only one. 221 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,560 Yeah. 222 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,440 It makes no sense. 223 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Even when they use him, he never becomes part of the Suicide Squad. 224 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:07,680 He's still an asshole. 225 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:09,360 I mean they're all assholes. 226 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,360 But you know he's an asshole in a different way. 227 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Yeah. 228 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,360 So. 229 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Yeah. 230 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,320 I think I could definitely come up with a really cool display. 231 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:25,800 And hell I would only use the ones that were in the movie the longest. 232 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,440 The rest are just like bye bye. 233 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:30,440 Yeah. 234 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,440 Ever. 235 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,440 Yeah. 236 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,440 I love it. 237 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:40,240 I could make a pretty killer display but I would need doubles of those cards. 238 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,240 Okay. 239 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,240 But. 240 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,160 I'm not saying that I'm going to be looking on eBay for them after it comes out. 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,680 I'm not going to do that. 242 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:50,680 Wink wink. 243 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:51,680 Yeah. 244 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:53,640 Super cool cover though. 245 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,920 I really like the concrete look. 246 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,120 You know now that you've like talked about it, it's kind of grown on me. 247 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,840 The only thing that I like I probably wouldn't get it if it's just flat. 248 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,600 I would probably do it if it was like indented a little bit. 249 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,560 So I actually like not like a texture but just so you could like feel the bumps. 250 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:14,560 Yeah. 251 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:15,560 Okay. 252 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:16,560 I think that'd be really cool. 253 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,560 That would be super super cool. 254 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,560 But yeah. 255 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:22,560 Okay. 256 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,760 I need to get a closer look at the the other one. 257 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Oh the Best Buy Steelbook. 258 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Yeah. 259 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,360 That one's cool because that one does include everyone. 260 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Yeah because who is Solsora? 261 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,120 Who was that? 262 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Was that the girl that Rick Flagg knew when they were in the jungle? 263 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,160 No. 264 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,720 I think it was the. 265 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,720 It may have been. 266 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,720 Yeah. 267 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,520 I'm pretty sure it was. 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Okay. 269 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,000 That's the only one I can think of. 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Yeah I was thinking it was the the chick that jumped on the helicopter. 271 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,360 No but no that's a mongrel. 272 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,360 Yeah. 273 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:23,840 Dude someone made I'm like I have it on the Google images page and someone made a concept 274 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,200 art for the steelbook and it looks great. 275 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Yeah so it's like on the on the back is all of the character the character logos. 276 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,760 So like the ones on the cards where it's like Harley Quinn but her face it has like her 277 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:50,660 name but above that it above that image is the the cast member. 278 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:55,240 So it says Margot Robbie and then below it is that picture of Harley Quinn and then same 279 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:02,400 thing with like Joel Kinnaman below is Rick Flagg and so on and so forth. 280 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Okay that's cool. 281 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Yeah just kind of going through everyone and then the front is one of those images is one 282 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,520 of those artist renditions of the the Suicide Squad. 283 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,560 I think it was one that James James Gunn posted. 284 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,960 But yeah just kind of like a front. 285 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,960 It looks really cool. 286 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,880 It looks super cool. 287 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Like I don't know how else to describe it. 288 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Like I don't know what what artists drew it or anything but I do remember him posting 289 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,280 this as like a promotional image. 290 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Oh really? 291 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Yeah kind of makes it look like a crazy drawn almost seven maybe not 70s like an 80s or 292 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,200 90s action movie. 293 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,400 Okay. 294 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,400 It's super cool. 295 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,360 I'll have to show you the picture when we're done. 296 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Yeah please do. 297 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,160 But anyway. 298 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:05,280 All right well that's it for 4k spotlight. 299 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,480 That's really the only big release coming out this week. 300 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,280 So moving on to through the wall. 301 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Caleb do you want to talk about the trailer or the casting first? 302 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Let's go with the trailer. 303 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Okay so during DC Fandome we got a bunch of like teaser or like special looks at like 304 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:31,800 Shazam 2, Black Adam, The Flash but we really only got like one official trailer and that 305 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,720 was for the Batman. 306 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Yeah. 307 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,160 It leaves the Batman. 308 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,080 So Fandome was like a pretty much an all-day event. 309 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,080 It felt like it was at least six hours. 310 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,840 Yeah that sounds right. 311 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:54,920 I had Fandome playing while I was at work and I would just kind of come back and forth 312 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,640 and a lot of the stuff that they showed because they showed a lot of stuff. 313 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Like a lot of stuff. 314 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,400 But a lot of it was just really basic. 315 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,720 So like with Aquaman they just showed some behind the scenes footage and then they showed 316 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:17,400 off a picture and some of the cast was interviewed and it looks like they're bringing back. 317 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,600 Black Manta which is pretty cool. 318 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Yeah didn't he get a new suit? 319 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,080 I thought that's what pictures I saw. 320 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:34,400 I didn't notice like a difference with his suit so he possibly. 321 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:41,240 And then Ocean Master is coming back. 322 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,400 Yeah I heard like freaking what is his name? 323 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Is it Patrick Wilson? 324 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:49,840 I think so. 325 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,920 Didn't he get like freaking like super buff for this one? 326 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Yeah he got yoked. 327 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Yeah I was like god damn. 328 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:05,200 And then yeah it's just everyone talking about how excited they are and whatnot. 329 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,120 So nothing too special came out of that. 330 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:14,280 A lot of the other stuff that they showed was for the shows like Young Justice. 331 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,640 Apparently there's some Aquaman show on HBO Max now. 332 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:25,800 I don't know if it's like for kids or what. 333 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Yeah then they showed stuff for like Doom Patrol, stuff for Titans. 334 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,120 And then when they got into the movies there was like a little clip of Black Adam and it 335 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:41,520 was just like introduction. 336 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:48,440 Or just what footage they had it seemed like. 337 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,880 So kind of like the same story with The Flash? 338 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Yeah pretty much same thing with The Flash. 339 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,440 It was just like some footage that they had. 340 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,040 I will give The Flash trailer this though. 341 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,320 That whole introduction by Ezra Miller actually was really funny. 342 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,440 Yeah it was hilarious. 343 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,000 The only thing that came out of that that kind of surprised me was that Ezra Miller 344 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,920 is going to be in it twice? 345 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,560 Yeah that's going to be trippy. 346 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,320 And then Michael Keaton is coming back as Batman and that's going to be freaking awesome 347 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:26,920 but we didn't get to see him as Batman which sucked but made sense. 348 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,320 Yeah it did very much so. 349 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,680 So not a lot to talk about with that. 350 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Shazam 2 that's filming. 351 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,120 It was just a bunch of behind the scenes shots. 352 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,800 Just showed off the new costumes a little bit. 353 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Nothing too crazy. 354 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:58,480 They showed off some new footage for Gotham Knights and the Suicide Squad Kill the Justice 355 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,000 League video games that are coming out. 356 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,560 Yeah how did that look? 357 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,040 It looks interesting. 358 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,080 It looks extremely interesting. 359 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,520 The Suicide Squad 1. 360 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,280 Gotham Knights they do have a story aspect that I really like. 361 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,480 I thought it was going to end up being like a multiplayer game where you just play as 362 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,600 all of those characters and it's just like a beat em up game but it seems like they're 363 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,560 kind of going the route. 364 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Did you ever play Spider-Man Shattered Dimensions? 365 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:34,520 I did not. 366 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,960 So for those of you that didn't play it and for you I guess, the way that it worked there 367 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,960 were four different Spider-Men that you could play as. 368 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:51,280 There was classic Spider-Man, there was black suited Spider-Man, Spider-Man Noir and Spider-Man 369 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,280 2099. 370 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,200 And so you would travel in between those worlds and play at like those levels and it ultimately 371 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:07,520 led to like one big overarching story. 372 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,120 So it kind of seems like that's what's going on here but everything's set in one world 373 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:16,640 instead of like separate universes. 374 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,940 So it seems like it's going to be like you play as Nightwing for a few, you play as Red 375 00:21:21,940 --> 00:21:28,780 Hood for a few, you play as Robin and then you can play as Batgirl and different mission 376 00:21:28,780 --> 00:21:29,780 styles. 377 00:21:29,780 --> 00:21:31,480 That's what it comes off as. 378 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:39,040 I don't recall seeing any like official gameplay but that's just kind of the vibe that they 379 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,440 gave off where it's going to be like okay Nightwing you're playing a bit more stealthy 380 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:51,200 combat with Robin, Damien, Wayne you're doing a lot of combat. 381 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,880 Red Hood is more of like a shoot em up and then Batgirl is going to be more on the stealthy 382 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,880 side. 383 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:07,760 So it kind of has some like major Shattered Dimension vibes. 384 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:15,160 So I want to see some gameplay because I don't like the top down RPGs that I'm assuming this 385 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000 game is going to be. 386 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,240 So if it's a third person and it's exactly like Shattered Dimensions I'm all in because 387 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,560 the story that they showed seems legit. 388 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:38,720 The four of them think that Bruce Wayne has died and so that's like they become the protectors 389 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,560 of Gotham. 390 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,960 So I think that'll be really cool. 391 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Especially if they go into the route of what happened in the comics where Nightwing took 392 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,400 over as Batman for a while. 393 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Okay yeah that would be pretty dope. 394 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Yeah I think that would be super cool. 395 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,680 And something like brand new that we haven't had in a Batman game before. 396 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,100 This is true. 397 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,360 Same thing with the Suicide Squad. 398 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:16,760 No real game footage. 399 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:25,240 That's a lot of story but the Justice League are being mind controlled and the four Suicide 400 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Squad members Captain Boomerang, King Shark. 401 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Isn't Bloodsport one of them? 402 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,520 No it's Deadshot. 403 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,640 Oh Deadshot. 404 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Yeah I was almost thinking of Deathstroke but no it's Deadshot and Harley Quinn are 405 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,040 kind of the people that are going in and have to kill the Justice League. 406 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,000 But they showed a lot of different characters. 407 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,760 They have Superman, they had Wonder Woman in there, Flash and Flash comes in and he's 408 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 like brutal. 409 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,080 Like coming in and smashing people against walls and shit. 410 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,080 Freaking wild. 411 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,280 Super interesting. 412 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,960 I'm afraid of the same thing with that. 413 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,280 That's going to be a top down RPG. 414 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,160 I hope it is not that way because I really don't like those types of games. 415 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,040 You and me both. 416 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:28,960 But if anything I'll probably find a YouTuber to watch play it if that's the case. 417 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:35,480 If it's not that way and it's like a third person fighting game then I'm all in. 418 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,480 Hell yeah. 419 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,480 It looks really good. 420 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Nice. 421 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Anyway, Batman was like the last thing that they showed. 422 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:52,720 I'm not surprised considering that this is like an actual full length trailer so it 423 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,800 makes sense that they would end it with this one. 424 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Yeah it does. 425 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,080 Like it was so good. 426 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,440 It was. 427 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:12,200 You still don't get to see a lot of Robert Pattinson's acting as Bruce Wayne but you 428 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,480 still get a little more. 429 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Robert Pattinson has proven that he's a very good actor so I'm very excited to see him 430 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,480 as Bruce Wayne. 431 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Get our first glimpse of Andy Serkis as Alfred and oh my gosh he's killing it. 432 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200 I feel Andy Serkis killed it in any role. 433 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,200 Absolutely true. 434 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:45,120 What did you think of, I always screw up his name, he's playing the penguin. 435 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,120 Colin Farrell. 436 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,200 That, thank you. 437 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,120 I always want to say Colin Firth but Colin Farrell, thank you. 438 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,120 He is unrecognizable. 439 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,120 He is. 440 00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,120 Oh my gosh. 441 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,120 Dude. 442 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,560 It's amazing what prosthetics can do. 443 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,240 Oh my gosh right. 444 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Which spoiler alert we'll get into later. 445 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Yep. 446 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,360 No it's insane. 447 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:17,000 I've looked at like side by side pictures of him in his penguin costume and him. 448 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,640 I cannot for the life of me find a similarity. 449 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960 Yeah. 450 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440 No I can definitely agree with that. 451 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,160 It's like exactly the same issue that I have with like Heath Ledger's Joker. 452 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,600 Once they put the makeup on I cannot see a difference. 453 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,600 No it looks nothing. 454 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Or see a similarity, not a difference. 455 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Nothing like Heath Ledger. 456 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Oh my gosh. 457 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,560 So good. 458 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,280 That makeup is incredible. 459 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,280 Yeah. 460 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:57,200 Like freaking hats off to the damn costume department on that one. 461 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Seriously incredible. 462 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,120 Like bare minimum. 463 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,320 Like when we eventually break that down. 464 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Bare minimum the movie is getting a nine. 465 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Yes yeah when it comes to makeup absolutely. 466 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Yeah and that's only if they like completely just go off the chain with Reddler. 467 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,920 With Reddler. 468 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:29,800 But with Penguin like if we were doing Penguin alone that would be a ten. 469 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaking of the Reddler I found it interesting that at least from what I saw in the first 470 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,800 glimpse that we saw with this movie it was very Reddler focused. 471 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840 Whereas with this one I mean from what I saw there was only that one glimpse of the Reddler 472 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:48,240 at the beginning and then that's really it. 473 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Yeah that's all I noticed too. 474 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:57,000 So kind of makes it not really clear on the story. 475 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,000 Like this almost felt like. 476 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:08,080 Like this it was so weird like because the first trailer was just so heavy on Reddler 477 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,840 so it made us think oh Reddler is going to be the villain. 478 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:17,160 But this one was so Penguin based and I hear Penguin isn't in it that much. 479 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,760 Yeah Colin Farrell actually kind of like spoiled it and said like guys don't get your hopes 480 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,280 up I'm only in it for like I think he said like 10-20 minutes. 481 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200 Yeah but he's 10. 482 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:35,000 But he's actually he's going to be like reprising his role as Penguin in a spinoff TV show. 483 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Spoiler alert. 484 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,480 That's like that's just what I've heard like nothing is being confirmed yet. 485 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,480 I don't know sometimes like I hate when they do that kind of stuff because you're just 486 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:54,600 like okay well then they don't die kind of ruins the what the word like not anticipation 487 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,240 but like the like not knowing what's going to happen when now you do. 488 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Yeah well the way that I look at that is technically we don't know if it's going to be a prequel 489 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,400 to this. 490 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Okay that's fair. 491 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,600 So he could still die and then the show is just prequel. 492 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,240 Okay that's a good point. 493 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,080 Because I don't think they've released anything about it other than it's going to be based 494 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,160 around the Gotham PD. 495 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,880 And with Jeffrey Wright's Commissioner Gordon. 496 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaking of him barely saw anything but gosh I'm so excited for him. 497 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200 I freaking love Jeffrey Wright dude. 498 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520 He's so good such great actor. 499 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Yeah I love him. 500 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,720 Who's playing Catwoman again? 501 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Zoe Kravitz. 502 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,960 What do you think of what we saw of her? 503 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,720 I think she looks good. 504 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:03,480 I think the various wigs that she'll be wearing kind of adds like that level of mystique to 505 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,800 her Selena Kyle. 506 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,600 I can agree with that. 507 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,920 I think that they could have easily just gone like oh she has the same hairstyle but it 508 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:21,160 makes sense as someone that's like an undercover cat burglar that she has disguises. 509 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:28,800 And I love that they are just driving it home that they're going to be doing like a love 510 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,240 hate relationship it seems with her and Batman. 511 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,120 I do like that a lot. 512 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,520 I think that's going to be really interesting to see. 513 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,560 And this is supposed to be Batman in his heyday so this isn't like his first year as Batman 514 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,440 but he's still like relatively new. 515 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,320 That's going to be really cool to see. 516 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Yeah because like I think we've only ever seen a Batman in his prime. 517 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Yeah I think so. 518 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,580 Have we ever seen like a new Batman? 519 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:07,160 Not that I've seen. 520 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:13,360 Yeah I mean the closest I think we've gotten was like Christian Bales but I don't know 521 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,680 he seemed very competent. 522 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,960 It seemed like there were I mean have they ever explained like how much of a time jump 523 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,240 there is between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight? 524 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,800 They probably have. 525 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,640 I just haven't paid that close attention to it. 526 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,960 No I haven't either because I feel like there is a decent time jump because you can definitely 527 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,400 tell that he has gotten his footing as Batman in that one. 528 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,520 Oh yeah definitely. 529 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,600 I think honestly the biggest thing is like you see him get his suit and all these other 530 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:51,160 gadgets. 531 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:58,160 So the cape that like helps him fly and like all of this other shit like you see him obtain 532 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:04,280 all of that and so it kind of does give like a brand new Batman kind of vibe but he's just 533 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,560 so he's so competent with all of that. 534 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Yeah. 535 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Like you don't really see like I hope we get to see him like mess things up or like learn 536 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,840 from his mistakes or like even make mistakes in general. 537 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,960 That's like that's what I'm hoping to get out of this. 538 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840 No I absolutely agree. 539 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Or even then like just become like a more high tech because right now it kind of seems 540 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:37,240 like his suit is somewhat taped together. 541 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,880 That's fair. 542 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Like honestly that but like the ending shot when he's like walking towards the penguin 543 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,520 um like just like the like the kind of like lower shot you get of his legs. 544 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,620 I don't know why just like when I saw him I'm like I don't know that doesn't like really 545 00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:56,360 like scream Batman you can tell like he's still trying to get the suit all put together 546 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,720 and get his like get it just perfect. 547 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,360 Yeah it does it does very much come off like that. 548 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,700 Okay okay I'm glad I'm not the only one. 549 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:14,760 And I think that their mistake with that and it and at least with that shot I would have 550 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:22,720 done make the ground a bit more wet so you can see the the reflection of his head. 551 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,080 So just so you can get that that profile of his of his head. 552 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Okay like make that a bit more prominent because like the way that they shot it it cut off 553 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:42,480 his head for a good portion and it just seemed like a generic uh silhouette figure with a 554 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,360 cape like it didn't scream Batman. 555 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,160 No that's fair yeah you got a good point there. 556 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,840 So I think showing off the ears would have been a big deal and the cape too like I think 557 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,880 with um all the other Batman the cape has been like so prominent and like just big and 558 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:07,960 flowy and this one seems very like thin and like loose flying so it's almost like it almost 559 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,720 feels like he just took a random sheet. 560 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:18,840 Like at least Christian Bale seemed like his cape had a purpose beyond just being a cape. 561 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,800 Uh I kind of like this a person that like he's still at least from what we see he's 562 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,160 still trying to get his his actual like Batman costume together you know doing little here 563 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,400 and there what's work what doesn't work. 564 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,280 I love seeing that kind of stuff with Batman. 565 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:50,760 Yeah I'm just ready to see how they explain if they do at all how he came to becoming 566 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,980 the Batman. 567 00:34:51,980 --> 00:35:00,560 Like it made sense with with Christian Bale's like I don't think he meant to come with like 568 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,780 to become a bat like it didn't it didn't come off that way because he had like a normal 569 00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:14,680 helmet and then he added the ears because he needed the antenna for his his hearing piece 570 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,640 and so he's like oh well shit I mean I need to put that so we just need we need to figure 571 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,580 something out to cover that and so he's just like all right guess we're doing like super 572 00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:26,140 big ears. 573 00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:31,120 Like they justified all the decisions they made about his costume design. 574 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,380 Yeah. 575 00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:37,040 Like the cape oh it's it's flame proof he can touch it with like static electricity 576 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,280 and use it to glide he like everything had a purpose behind it so I'm interested to see 577 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,800 if they're just gonna go like no he just really likes superheroes and wanted to be one or 578 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,680 like or what? 579 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:55,520 He did not listen to his dear old friend Edna did he? 580 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,440 No camps. 581 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:07,080 Yeah like if you had to do a superhero costume would you give it a cape? 582 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,800 Honestly it would it'd be so dependent on my powers. 583 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,160 That's fair I mean considering growing up I always wanted to have super speed so I would 584 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,640 not want a cape. 585 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,000 So yeah exactly that's like one power you definitely don't want one. 586 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,360 Unless you want to be choked to death. 587 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:37,200 I thought it was funny how I thought it was funny how um super girl kind of touched on 588 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,160 this subject of capes because they were like they were going through a montage of like 589 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:53,600 her creating her persona as super girl and so she she found a costume she liked she went 590 00:36:53,600 --> 00:37:01,160 out and she didn't want to do a cape like originally so she just had like a classic 591 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:07,840 outfit like it was just like very plain didn't even have the the S on it yet and so she went 592 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,840 out flying and she was like going super speed and trying to turn really fast but couldn't 593 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,240 and crashed into like a hill and then she comes back and they're just like oh so the 594 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:25,200 cape helps with like aerodynamics like that make like that makes sense and so that's why 595 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,640 they ended up giving her a cape which I don't know if that's true or not because but I mean 596 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,800 at least they backed it up yeah in their own way yeah yeah exactly so it's like okay so 597 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:43,200 there's the reason for the cape that's why she has a cape yeah it's for like the aerodynamic 598 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:53,360 flight or whatever so with Batman I feel like Batman's super hard to justify a cape for 599 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,880 that's fair like the only reason I feel Batman has a cape is because Batman was drawn with 600 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:06,240 a cape yeah and I think with all the other iterations of Batman it was easy because they 601 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:16,080 went like very comic book accurate it's true and then when they got to Christian Bale they 602 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:22,320 justified the cape they're just like okay now I can use it as a glider or like it had 603 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:30,760 a lot of different purposes but yeah with this one it does not feel like it has a purpose 604 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:38,240 other than just being a cape yeah so I hope I hope I hope I hope they justify the cape 605 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:49,400 no I agree I definitely agree but overall freaking killer trailer like it looks like 606 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:56,180 they're going very practical they are and I love it so yeah this this trailer got me 607 00:38:56,180 --> 00:39:03,120 even more hype for this movie yeah I love what they're doing with the Batmobile the 608 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:09,920 Batmobile looks so cool it does oh my gosh yeah so the Batmobile is just like a classic 609 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:18,920 muscle car with like a pimped out engine and penguin like it's like a car chase scene and 610 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,720 penguin blows some cars up and he thinks he's killed the batman he's like I got you like 611 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:30,080 I got you and then he sees the Batmobile like fly through the flames and like crash down 612 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,400 and like keep following him and the way that he looks back I'm like that's exactly how 613 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,720 you look back at that yeah because he like looks in the mirror and sees it like coming 614 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:47,020 through the front like that's haunting that's insane that is insane like I lost my mind 615 00:39:47,020 --> 00:40:01,940 at work too I was just like oh my gosh this is so cool oh so I'm excited I'm really excited 616 00:40:01,940 --> 00:40:11,000 for it same here um if you had to rank your excitement level what would you put it up 617 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:18,600 not quite at a nine yet but I'm not I'm about an eight and a half okay I know I try to like 618 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:25,560 stick with like the solid eight or nine but eight and a half is more accurate okay I'm 619 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:31,320 at a solid eight but no I can understand why you're at an eight and a half yeah it's just 620 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:38,400 like the action that we saw looks so so cool yeah and I'm hoping that they have like the 621 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:52,480 more grounded realistic aspect to him yes I agree I did notice that there was some more 622 00:40:52,480 --> 00:41:01,920 comic booky looking action sequences which I am totally okay with because as Batman versus 623 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:11,040 Superman proved it works that yes very much so so I'm excited to see all of that stuff 624 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,040 I just hope that they don't go like over the top but they also don't go too realistic because 625 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:24,520 I think too realistic could come off as boring yeah no yeah you got a good point there like 626 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:36,800 you just need to throw in something that a normal person can't do all right well um do 627 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,760 you have anything else you want to say about the Batman trailer or DC fandom in general 628 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:49,780 not really um I do wish that Marvel had something like fandom but I know that's like Disney 629 00:41:49,780 --> 00:41:58,720 plus day yeah but it's not like Marvel centric like I'd love to have a like a Marvel fan 630 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:03,920 like online fan experience where you get to hear like plans for comic books like because 631 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:08,360 that's what they did cover too they covered like a lot of comics future of different like 632 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:14,040 stories and whatnot and then they they handled TV shows they handled movies like they kind 633 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:22,000 of handled everything under the DC umbrella that's awesome I love that yeah so I would 634 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,920 love to see Marvel do something like that but unfortunately I think the most that we're 635 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,560 going to get is like the Disney plus day where they're like oh here are all of the movies 636 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:41,680 that we're planning here are all the uh the TV shows which when is when is that Disney 637 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:49,640 plus day it's like November isn't it yeah I forget when though because I know like on 638 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:55,440 like they're like saying what's coming out in the near future but they're also like premiering 639 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,880 certain things on Disney plus and I know like one of the big ones is a Shang Chi is coming 640 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:10,360 to Disney plus yeah um let's see November 12th okay is what is uh Disney plus day shit 641 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:17,800 like the next week or the two weeks after Hawkeye premieres yeah so they're gonna have 642 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,360 a bunch of stuff like coming that day they're gonna have Shang Chi they're gonna have Jungle 643 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:30,760 Cruise home sweet home alone that new uh series of shorts Olaf presents like they're gonna 644 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:42,440 have a bunch of stuff hell yeah um yeah I'm I just want to see some more like future stuff 645 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:49,760 like I want to see more like future future Marvel that's fair I mean I like doing where 646 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,280 I want to see that but like at the same time I kind of want to be like living in the now 647 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,320 like I'm of course so excited for Hawkeye and they actually said that the first instead 648 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,240 of just premiering the first episode it's gonna be the first two episodes yes yeah um 649 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:12,520 and then freaking I can't wait for the eternal or sorry eternals yeah which awesome I don't 650 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,320 know if you saw but be careful out there on the web because apparently a huge spoiler 651 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:26,040 has leaked yep I saw that too so I'm completely off of my personal Facebook and Instagram 652 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:35,080 okay good good um but yeah um yeah it really sucks though that like a bunch of the Marvel 653 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:43,440 movies got pushed back a year oh my gosh that's the worst um I will say this the only thing 654 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:51,000 that I want to come out of Disney Plus when it or Disney Plus day when in regards to Marvel 655 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,200 like I want to see some like future Disney projects too like maybe give us a little bit 656 00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:02,120 more about what in Kanto is supposed to be oh yeah I agree um I want some more of that 657 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,920 like what what Pixar is working on what Disney animations working like just everyone I want 658 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,600 to know what everyone's working on when it comes when it's related to Marvel what I want 659 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:22,160 to see I want to see either concept art or promotional images something regarding She-Hulk 660 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:30,880 and I want some footage of Ms. Marvel ooh okay fair enough yeah so if they can handle 661 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:38,000 if they can give us that I will call Disney Plus day it like amazing a huge success yeah 662 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:46,000 like that's what I want to see and I I haven't decided whether or not I want to see something 663 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,960 from Moon Knight because of how far out that one is still that's but if we do get anything 664 00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:00,120 from in from Moon Knight that's just gonna be icing on the cake yeah yeah I can definitely 665 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:07,200 agree I would really like to see what his suit looks like yes absolutely like whether 666 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:15,080 that um image that we saw is is real or not yeah no I absolutely agree and I hope it is 667 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:23,640 like I know a lot of people like didn't like it I loved his costume I guess we'll find 668 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:33,640 out yeah so anyway I'm done don't none Disney all right moving on to our uh so we didn't 669 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:40,280 actually did we actually talk about what we were supposed to uh well I asked uh if you 670 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:46,120 had anything else to say about DC fandom and then we kind of oh when we got into the okay 671 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,720 yeah so yeah we technically never started okay fair enough yeah but so moving on to 672 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:59,760 our second bit of news we have some huge Guardians of the Galaxy volume 3 casting and that is 673 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:08,840 that will I almost forgot his name Will Poulter has been officially cast as Adam Warlock oh 674 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:17,920 my gosh talk about great casting yeah for those of you that don't know who will Poulter 675 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:26,600 is if you have seen we are the millers or maze runner and maybe like a couple other 676 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:36,680 things uh he's the eyebrows kid that's such a great way to explain who he is dude did 677 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:43,320 you know if you no shit if you google who's that actor with the eyebrows he'll come up 678 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:50,960 okay I'm doing it yeah do it right now like that's all I think that's all you have to 679 00:47:50,960 --> 00:48:02,360 look up who's the actor with the eyebrows uh when I pull that up Rodrigo Santora comes 680 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:10,360 up first what yeah actually well another thing that pops up is which actor has the most insane 681 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:22,440 eyebrows Nicolas Cage is number one that's not true what the hell I pulled up um I looked 682 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,600 the same thing who's the actor with the eyebrows and the first thing I came up was Will Poulter 683 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:35,720 what the hell that's weird all right let's try this again like what did you search who 684 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:43,640 who's that actor with the eyebrows well maybe it's because I like recently looked him up 685 00:48:43,640 --> 00:49:00,480 let's find out who's that okay there it is yeah Will Poulter there he is oh my gosh um 686 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,520 but yeah so someone like posted a picture of what he looks like now because he's in 687 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:12,480 some show called uh Dope Sick with Michael Keaton that's on Hulu right now and he's 688 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:24,840 not white the name for sure yeah and he grew into his eyebrows very very much so like oh 689 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:33,840 or at least learn to control them a little bit like he probably it's like he got the 690 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:42,400 same uh training that Amelia Clark did because Amelia Clark's got some like crazy eyebrows 691 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:50,360 when when she wants to yeah you got a point there but yeah I think he's he's able to to 692 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:57,480 learn to control them so I think this is amazing casting like I thought they were going to 693 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:10,440 go like full adult well I say that but I realize he's our age and we're adults yeah he's 28 694 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:16,760 okay nevermind how young do you think we are I have no idea dude like I mean I would gladly 695 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:26,440 go back into a 20 year old body dude it is so weird like realizing that we're the age 696 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:35,320 as some as a lot of actors on screen are yeah like it's weird for me to like look at uh 697 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:43,720 Tom Holland and realize we're the same age that's fair that that is absolutely fair and 698 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,720 yeah like he's just one of those two like I didn't realize we're only like a few years 699 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:55,120 apart and I'm just like I didn't realize like they were going to cast some kid like no like 700 00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:01,160 he's he's a man he's art like he's someone I view as someone my age and I'm like yeah 701 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:11,360 they're casting some kid no they're casting an adult um but I couldn't be happier with 702 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:18,200 this casting I think he has everything you're looking for like he has like that that very 703 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:29,960 distinct face like very strong facial structure yes like just like very sharp everything which 704 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:37,960 is kind of what you want from Adam Warlock who's supposed to be this like picture perfect 705 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:45,800 person and I think he's I think Will's gonna pull that off amazingly like there hasn't 706 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:53,720 been anything I've hated him in no same here um I don't really know I know jack shit about 707 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:59,760 Adam Warlock so um you saying that he's like perfectly cast I'm like judging it off like 708 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,800 your opinion and how you like what you've seen with the character well um okay well 709 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:12,160 I haven't personally like dealt with at least comics wise I haven't I don't know anything 710 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:19,680 about Adam Warlock oh okay I'm going off of looks alone okay all right and I showed you 711 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:27,760 some of the pictures of of him he's very clean cut yeah no yeah you're absolutely right so 712 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:34,880 yeah in that regard they hit the nail on the head like perfect I don't think that really 713 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,400 worked in the way that I thought it was going to but whatever I'm gonna roll with it yeah 714 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:49,720 um but this was confirmed by James Gunn on Instagram hell yeah yeah like he I think he 715 00:52:49,720 --> 00:53:00,400 was saying that he usually doesn't like give any um any mind to spoilers like this he's 716 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:09,640 like I usually don't don't like acknowledge these rumors or anything um but I will acknowledge 717 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:16,800 this one like yes I am casting uh Will Poulter as Adam Warlock in Guardians of the Galaxy 718 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:26,840 volume 3 and I'm like hell yeah sweet I love like the difference between DC and Marvel 719 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:34,360 Marvel is just overly secretive to the point of like withholding stuff from us and it's 720 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:41,320 like it's aggravating like this whole is is toby maguire and adan garfield going to be 721 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:51,000 in in no way home like we highly assume yes just reveal it we're still going to go see 722 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:58,040 the movie I'm like I keep telling myself no just because I don't want to walk out disappointed 723 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:06,480 I'd rather like walk in see them on there and like freaking I was gonna say never mind 724 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,760 um but just like well you know like walk out there being like oh my gosh that was the coolest 725 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,080 freaking thing I've ever seen and now walk out like oh I'm pissed off I didn't see these 726 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:24,800 guys yeah exactly yeah so like it's just that like it's just I I don't like how secretive 727 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:32,520 Marvel is and then on the other hand with with uh with DC they're giving us like plenty 728 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,720 of stuff to work with like they don't hold anything back they're just like hey Shazam's 729 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:44,480 new costume check it out oh look at that Black Adam hat like check out his costume um yeah 730 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,080 true like I think honestly the only reason we haven't because they're doing like a blue 731 00:54:50,080 --> 00:55:04,560 beetle movie I'm not sure yeah there I I'm not sure let me see for sure real fast okay 732 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:11,680 with blue beetle uh they don't have like an official suit yet but they released the concept 733 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:17,200 art that they're basing the suit off of oh hell yeah yeah and that's just because they 734 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:27,360 don't have a suit to reveal yeah like I love that like I love how like included I feel 735 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:34,080 in the DC stuff like with James with Suicide Squad like I loved how included I felt like 736 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,320 James Gunn was posting about it all the time taking pictures of the actors behind the scenes 737 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:45,680 and their costumes just doing random shit yeah like I love that I love like the inclusion 738 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,240 that I felt in that and I feel like that's something that's lacking from Marvel because 739 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:59,560 they're just so damn secretive it's true no that's very true like the one thing that I 740 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:07,640 hate is that they're like um whenever they post untitled Marvel project just tell us 741 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:13,600 what it is yeah I'll definitely agree with y'all now I'm like what do you think you're 742 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,440 gonna do release the title and be and people are gonna be like oh I know exactly what it's 743 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:26,560 about and I'm not gonna go see it like no it's just something to get us hyped yeah like 744 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:34,440 that's just yeah I think that they need to take a note out of DC's book a little bit 745 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:41,300 in regards to that yeah the movies like in general I'm like okay like there's some things 746 00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:46,500 you should definitely keep secret like definitely keep like the end credits sequences secret 747 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:51,140 like I think there are just like key things that you need to keep hidden but not like 748 00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:59,280 so much like I think that's like I think that's part of why endgame did so well it was like 749 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:06,160 this investment we had in the characters yes absolutely and if you I feel like if you 750 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:16,120 build an investment of time into a movie when it comes like the connection like I love that 751 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:23,120 um Aquaman 2 like they they're like oh we just started filming like they release when 752 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,240 they're when they're filming they release when they're like in post-production they 753 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,240 really all of these timelines like hey we're doing this we're doing that like letting the 754 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:37,760 fans know and I feel almost like a little bit more connected to the movies been like 755 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:43,560 oh yeah like I almost get to the point where I'm like we've been working on this so hard 756 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:54,400 like freaking great job everyone like I like I was like was a part of it and like I love 757 00:57:54,400 --> 00:58:00,880 that like I love that feeling and I feel like that's just sorely lacking with Marvel movies 758 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,560 yeah like it's almost like Marvel's just like absolutely not like you'll see it when it's 759 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:19,840 done yeah you're not wrong you're not wrong yeah so it's it's I'm glad that if anything 760 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:26,480 James Gunn maybe took a little bit of that from DC and just gave us this because I feel 761 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:32,400 like we could have been speculating day in and day like just day out like oh who's gonna 762 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,880 be Adam Warlock who's gonna be Adam Warlock oh this rumor came out like and then people 763 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,280 are just getting pissed off like no it's not gonna be this guy it's just a rumor and like 764 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:49,000 I feel like that's like where a lot of negativity comes in yeah so I'm glad that he's just like 765 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,400 yeah we're casting Will Poulter and everyone's just like great like we're so excited 766 00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:04,440 I mean I know some people aren't they're just like the kid with the eyebrows he has a name 767 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:12,720 yeah so I'm genuinely excited to see Will Poulter as Adam Warlock I think he'll be amazing 768 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:20,560 as am I and I absolutely agree so that is it for through the wall what do you say we 769 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:46,400 get jump into our all bros headliner say let's do it all right 770 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:56,840 all right so on this week's all bros headliner we will be breaking down Halloween kills and 771 00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,960 we were going to we actually had a question of the week put together but we forgot to 772 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:09,080 post it we're sorry guys yeah well we'll get the next one yeah out when we figure out what 773 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:16,800 the hell it is we aren't like quite sure what next week at week's episode is gonna be yet 774 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:27,160 so yeah so your guess is as good as ours but anyway Caleb do you want to tell everybody 775 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:36,380 how we break down movies on this podcast absolutely so if you are new to our breakdown system 776 01:00:36,380 --> 01:00:41,120 we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually grade to come 777 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:48,320 to a final all bros letter grade the eight categories that we score our story writing 778 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:57,720 acting character development but in case of horror movies we go off of the horror logic 779 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:02,840 this is more just making sure that the horror movies follow their own rules that they set 780 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:10,400 into place and just like maintain that level of realism whatever they set into because 781 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:16,960 I know some horror is like paranormal based and whatever it's just the rules that they 782 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:24,480 set in place did they follow those rules and then we do effects music costumes and then 783 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:31,440 we give it our own personal grade at the very end then all of that magic gets added up together 784 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:42,320 and spits out our our letter grade yeah buddy so if you guys haven't seen Halloween kills 785 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:50,520 I am about to spoil the whole damn thing for you so if you haven't watched it in theaters 786 01:01:50,520 --> 01:02:01,960 or seen it on peacock go watch it right now and come back and you know listen to this 787 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:13,400 episode yeah which speaking of seeing it in theaters we actually watched this in VR yeah 788 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:20,720 is our first VR movie night and holy shit could it have not been more perfect it was 789 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:27,360 amazing you know for anyone that thinks that virtual reality still doesn't replace like 790 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:33,440 some things in real life you know you got a point like I'll fully admit that I still 791 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:39,240 love going to the actual movie theater but in the case that you know like Caleb lives 792 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:46,440 30 hours from me the fact that we can still sit in a movie theater see each other right 793 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,400 next to each other and experience the movie together sometimes you know talk to each other 794 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:56,520 about it if we've already seen it is so amazing to be able to go back to this opera go back 795 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:04,720 to what we used to do I'm gonna say a couple years ago it was like a year ago but it's 796 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:12,640 just amazing to be able to go back to this kind of situation and create more memories 797 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:27,240 with movie nights yeah so I have a question for you regarding this answer so this was 798 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:34,480 both of our first experience doing a movie night together yes you have the oculus quest 799 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:43,680 2 I have the oculus quest 1 I know that the only thing that I probably should have done 800 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,840 was put headphones on the only reason that I didn't put headphones on was because Braille 801 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:54,440 and Iris were out and I wanted to hear when they came back in otherwise I would have some 802 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:59,320 yeah otherwise I would have put on some like decent headphones and headphones like just 803 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:06,200 change it drastically did you listen to it with with headphones or did you just with 804 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:18,040 the speakers no I just listened to it with speakers okay visuals wise did um how does 805 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:24,640 you feel about it honestly I say pretty damn good I mean you're not getting like 4k quality 806 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,840 but you really don't get that in a movie theater unless you're seeing in like freaking IMAX 807 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:33,840 or some shit like that when it comes to like just a regular movie theater you're not getting 808 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:43,880 like 4k quality it's gonna be like 1080p and that's honestly what we got yeah so yeah I 809 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:51,240 we don't I downloaded a 1080p file of this movie that we loaded onto our headsets we 810 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:59,840 had to load it onto both of our headsets to be able to watch it but it could not have 811 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:06,760 been more perfect yeah the way that it worked out like at least for me like that was one 812 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:14,200 thing that I don't like going I don't like going to the theaters anymore I went I went 813 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:25,000 to the no okay listen I went to the the theater to go see what was it what was the last movie 814 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:32,680 I saw was venom venom yeah and don't get me wrong like going to the theater it's it's 815 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:41,480 an experience like it's it's just not one that I I miss a lot because one I have to 816 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:52,360 go out and I'm like a very I'm a homebody same but it's just when I go out I'm like 817 01:05:52,360 --> 01:06:00,280 I'm paying for the ticket I'm paying for whatever snacks I get and I limited myself to a drink 818 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:08,520 but even that ended up costing me like a shit ton of money and then the seats they they 819 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:14,520 weren't super great the quality like the audio quality wasn't super good either like I feel 820 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:22,880 like I can absolutely replicate it I have a surround sound system from like 2003 and 821 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:33,560 I was able to recreate the the Bohemian Rap City movie theater experience almost perfectly 822 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,440 like I think if I would have just like rearranged the the speakers differently I think it would 823 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:49,520 have worked but yeah it's there's just something about watching it at home like I had my drink 824 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:55,760 out I freaking had some some snacks too out while we were watching it I don't know how 825 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,320 the hell you could like the word like move it to your mouth and not like make a mistake 826 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:11,160 plus of me I had a straw for with the drink okay good and then the snacks were just like 827 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:16,960 not that hard to aim for your mouth okay all right that's good the drink I probably would 828 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:24,040 have screwed up a couple times had I not had the straw another thing that really helps 829 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:30,440 is I had the remote in my hand to kind of like reach for I knew where the general area 830 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,720 of my drink was so I would reach and like grab it so I knew where my hand was in relation 831 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:48,240 to my face okay there we go but yeah like I loved it like I had more fun doing this 832 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,520 I honestly the only thing I would have changed is I probably would have gone I should have 833 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,840 gone over to the couch to to watch it because that little chair that I was sitting on wasn't 834 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:04,440 like the most comfortable like it was comfortable enough it's just I couldn't lean back yeah 835 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:16,200 now I like and this is where I think a recliner would would be amazing but yeah I think all 836 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:24,360 of that like the drink the snacks being able to like look over and see you in any like 837 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:30,760 movement that you made like it just it made I had more fun watching this movie than I 838 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:43,640 did venom or shung chi yeah same here like it's I don't I don't have the same connection 839 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,140 to the movie theater experience that you do you have I think all of my like the reason 840 01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:57,660 I look fondly to going to the movie theaters is because I went with you do why do you always 841 01:08:57,660 --> 01:09:06,840 like almost make me cry on these episodes you asshole you know I'm a sensitive person 842 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,840 well that's not like that's what I reflect on when I think of the movies like I'm like 843 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:18,880 oh yeah like me and Rose saw this and it was freaking incredible yeah like I that I just 844 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,480 don't get that from the movie theaters anymore because like now I come in I'm like I have 845 01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:30,000 to put on my freaking shoes like I have to put pants on like I could freaking do it in 846 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:36,840 my skivvies if I wanted to you wouldn't know the difference I mean you're not wrong well 847 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,280 you know what now every single time we have a movie night I'm gonna ask him like Caleb 848 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:52,240 you wearing underwear nope okay bye please I wouldn't tell you okay I'll just call Brielle 849 01:09:52,240 --> 01:10:05,920 is he wearing pants nope thank you it's all I needed to know yeah but it's just yeah and 850 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:12,320 then I get like weird sticky stuff on my shoes and because like all my feet like I don't 851 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:20,320 have like IMAX well I do I have a couple of them but they're like 20 minutes away so it's 852 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:25,660 almost like not worth it to go there though actually the theater that I go to they always 853 01:10:25,660 --> 01:10:35,920 choose the dumbest movies to make I to put in their IMAX like I don't think they even 854 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:43,040 put Shang-Chi into the IMAX yeah that's just stupid yeah like I forget which movie they 855 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:50,840 had in there at the time I know right now they have no time to die which makes sense 856 01:10:50,840 --> 01:11:01,240 yeah like that one makes more sense than not having Shang-Chi so it is just like eh I don't 857 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:07,480 know not putting Shang-Chi in it like I'm just thinking like what movies like that's 858 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:11,760 like the equivalent of like saying like oh you know like instead of putting venom let 859 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,000 there be carnage in IMAX let's put the Adams family to in IMAX because those came out the 860 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:27,240 exact same day yeah right exactly I'm actually curious to see just just for shits and giggles 861 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:33,600 I want to see what's in the IMAX right now I mean if a tolling kills then that's okay 862 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:49,880 I know it's not let's see okay they took they took no time to die out out of IMAX that's 863 01:11:49,880 --> 01:12:01,880 kind of cool they have a five dollar surprise screening a five surprise screen so you don't 864 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,600 know what movie you're getting yeah they just give you like the the genre thrills and chills 865 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:19,280 okay so like is it strictly only new movies or is it like any age no it's it's rated 866 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:27,360 are it's an hour and a half I'm willing to bet it's like one of the other Halloween movies 867 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:35,080 yeah probably I mean that would make sense with it being October oh my gosh we were just 868 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:40,840 talking about it they put the Adams family to in IMAX are you freaking serious I'm not 869 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:48,640 even kind of joking how the hell is that that makes no damn sense yeah so when venom was 870 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:55,640 out they had no time to die and now that no time to die or now that Halloween kills is 871 01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,480 out they have freaking Adams family too the only thing that can make that worse is if 872 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:11,840 they would have thrown the last duel dude straight up but yeah I think just overall 873 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:22,040 I enjoyed this experience more than I have the past few movies I've gone to okay yeah 874 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,840 I can agree with that yeah only improvements I would have made is I would have chosen different 875 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:33,640 seating in my house and I would have worn headphones yeah that's yeah cuz honestly 876 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:42,160 like the seating that we chose like in VR I feel was like perfect yeah yeah it was it 877 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:52,400 was freaking awesome and like that's another thing like I couldn't choose like a seat when 878 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:58,520 I went to go see venom like I had to sit in the back in the the the movie theater like 879 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:03,640 is more long than anything and so sitting in the back it felt like I was watching it 880 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:14,000 on my damn laptop like that's how big the screen felt to me okay like it was insane 881 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:21,360 so like I love that we're able to like choose a theater that kind of suits whatever movie 882 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:29,360 we're wanting to watch yeah no I like that as well but yeah I think it just freaking 883 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:38,720 felt great and anyone else who has like an oculus headset that has big screen VR be sure 884 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:45,200 it is up like we'll freaking do movie night with you love so blast I'll give you or I'll 885 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,600 grant you access to whatever movie we're watching so you can like download it and put it on 886 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:56,760 your headset and we'll just freaking party it out hell yeah and anyone who needs convincing 887 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:08,400 getting one DJ and Vic do it Rose was actually hesitant I was and it's honestly one of the 888 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:19,240 best investments I've ever done it's freaking knew it I told you I freaking told you yeah 889 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:25,360 he did tell me so it was one of the only times I killed has been right what forgets I'm just 890 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:32,600 kidding I'm kidding bro anyway enough bragging about that if you guys want to join us on 891 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:41,240 movie night hit us up we'll give you all the information that that we can yes but getting 892 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:46,600 into this breakdown it is reading with rose time where he's gonna read off the entire 893 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:57,680 synopsis for Halloween kills yes all right so on October 31st 2018 after being stabbed 894 01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,200 and left to die by dr. 895 01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:04,920 Ramber sartain deputy Frank Hawkins is found by Cameron Elam who tends to his wounds Hawkins 896 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,960 awakens and remembers the events of 40 years earlier during the search for Michael Myers 897 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,160 following his escape after being shot Hawkins accidentally kills his partner trying to save 898 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,960 him from Michael in the Myers house before preventing Michael's original psychiatrist 899 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,960 dr. 900 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:25,760 Sam Loomis from killing his patient outside resolving to kill him in the present meanwhile 901 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:31,140 Tommy Doyle is at a local bar celebrating the 40th anniversary of Michael's arrest imprisonment 902 01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:37,160 and to commemorate the memory of his victims along with fellow survivors fellow sorry fellow 903 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:42,840 survivors Marion Chambers Lindsay Wallace and Cameron's father Lonnie Elam who briefly 904 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:49,120 encountered Michael in 1978 before toasting Laurie Strode a group of firefighters respond 905 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,680 to Laurie's burning house and unwittingly free Michael who massacres them with their 906 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:58,560 own equipment Laurie her daughter Karen and her granddaughter Alison arrived at Haddonfield 907 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:03,740 Memorial Hospital where Laurie undergoes emergency surgery Michael murders Laurie's neighbors 908 01:17:03,740 --> 01:17:09,200 Sandra and Phil before making his way deeper into Haddonfield an emergency newscast of 909 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:14,880 the killings alerts Tommy Marion Lindsay and Lonnie of Michael's escape before bar patron 910 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:20,640 Vanessa supposedly encounters encounters Michael in the backseat of her car Tommy and a group 911 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:25,240 of people head outside to confront him as the car drives away and crashes the driver 912 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:30,440 whom they falsely believed to be Myers escapes unnoticed while Lonnie heads off to pick up 913 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:35,640 Cameron Tommy forms a mob of vengeful Haddonfield citizens to hunt down and kill Michael before 914 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:41,880 he can kill anyone else the police informed Karen and Alison that Michael escaped and 915 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:47,520 is still alive Karen decides to withhold the information from Laurie to allow her to recover 916 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,000 while Alison Rick reconciles with Cameron and joins him along with his father and the 917 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,960 others to hunt down Michael and avenge her own father's death Laurie and Hawkins now 918 01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:02,960 sharing a hospital room both awaken and reminisce about their former relationship Lindsay encounters 919 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:08,640 two teenagers in a park who had seen Michael Myers but didn't seem to care until they 920 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:13,760 see Michael Myers holding a bloody mask of their friend who had worn it earlier Lindsay, 921 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:20,560 Marion and Vanessa hold up hold up hold up yeah those kids were supposed to be teenagers 922 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:27,040 yeah they looked like what like like between like eight and ten yeah that's what age I 923 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:36,320 thought they were yeah they make pre-teen eight pre-teens but yeah like they were young 924 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,660 yeah like the way that they were talking to there's just some guy trying to play hide 925 01:18:40,660 --> 01:18:45,560 and seek with us but he's not very good at he just kind of pops up randomly like I'm 926 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:52,600 like serious yeah like I was just like that that's the scene that freaking popped into 927 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:58,800 my head when you said teens I'm like teens no they're yeah they're not teenagers I absolutely 928 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:07,040 agree with you yeah like the max age I would put on those kids is like 11 yeah yeah no 929 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:12,200 yeah I absolutely agree yeah because I wouldn't freaking trust like a an eight or nine year 930 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:20,080 old to go trick-or-treating by themselves no I was out like one parent yeah or maybe 931 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:32,280 I'm just lame now I love that alright so Lindsay Marion Vanessa and her husband Marcus are 932 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:38,000 ambushed by Michael in the park to warning Haddonfield residents to say inside all are 933 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:45,360 killed except for Lindsay who barely manages to to Alice Karen Tom and long arrive at the 934 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:49,440 scene discovering the bodies of the others in a playground all wearing silver shamrock 935 01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:55,560 masks that were worn earlier by the prankster teenagers Lindsay encounter these same teenagers 936 01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,400 have pranked Big John Little John the current owners of the Michael Myers childhood home 937 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:05,800 they find Lindsay traumatized and injured but alive and she is taken to the hospital 938 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,800 while Tommy takes Lindsay to the hospital Lonnie Cameron and Allison map out the path 939 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,960 that Michael is taking based on where his victims are located they deduced that he is 940 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:19,400 heading towards his childhood home Tommy reunites with former Haddonfield Sheriff Lee Brackett 941 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,840 whose daughter Annie was killed by Michael in 1978 and then informs Lori of Michael's 942 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:29,480 survival across town Michael murders the current owners of his former home Big John and Little 943 01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:34,440 John as Lori prepares to leave the hospital to have her final confrontation with him the 944 01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:41,340 driver of Vanessa's car Lance Tavoli who is a fellow fellow patient of Smith's Grove alongside 945 01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:47,040 Michael and escaped when the bus crashed arrives at the hospital Tommy and his mom mistake 946 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:52,360 Lance for Michael and pursue him through the hospital Karen manages to reach Lance and 947 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,860 realizes he isn't Michael despite Karen's attempts to calm the mob and help Lance he 948 01:20:56,860 --> 01:21:02,020 jumps out of a window to his death Brackett grows concern that the mob is turning into 949 01:21:02,020 --> 01:21:07,520 monsters from their fear and panic while Lori who was injured during the chase urges Karen 950 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:12,800 to work with Tommy and hunt down Michael back at the Myers house Lonnie arms himself and 951 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,760 heads in alone until Allison and Cameron hear gunshots and rush inside to help him they 952 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,880 discover Big John Little John and Lonnie's bodies before being attacked by Michael in 953 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,400 the ensuing fight Allison breaks her leg while Cameron is brutally beaten by Michael before 954 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:32,640 having his neck snapped as Michael prepares to kill Allison Karen stabs him in the back 955 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:37,800 with a pitchfork steals his mask and taunts him to follow her Karen lures Michael into 956 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:43,480 the path of Tommy's mob Michael recovers his mask before being attacked and seemingly killed 957 01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:47,960 by the mob as Karen leaves to reunite with Allison Brackett prepares to shoot Michael 958 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:52,980 in the head Michael recovers and manages to slaughter the entire mob including Brackett 959 01:21:52,980 --> 01:21:58,480 and Tommy back at the Myers house as Allison receives medical attention Karen sees a young 960 01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:03,440 Michael looking out the bedroom window and investigates Michael appears and stabs her 961 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:09,520 to death Lori stares out of out of her hospital hospital room window while Michael stares 962 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:14,320 out of his window. 963 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,280 This is an interesting movie. 964 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:25,240 I know when I cause I actually saw I actually saw this movie opening night and then I watched 965 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,360 it again with Caleb of course I've already seen this movie three times. 966 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:35,680 Once in the theater once on Peacock and then once watching it with Caleb all three great 967 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:44,440 experiences but so I follow a couple of the Halloween fan pages on Facebook and a lot 968 01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:49,160 of people when they complain about this movie they say oh it feels like that you know like 969 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:54,720 if just filler it feels like the middle chapter you know like it it you can tell it's just 970 01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:00,320 a build up to the finale and like you think about that well yeah they plan this as a trilogy 971 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:06,080 of course this is the build up to the final final film this isn't really supposed to I 972 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:10,920 mean you could I mean could you really say that this is their its own film or do you 973 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:17,280 feel it's really it's truly a middle chapter in a trilogy. 974 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:26,080 That one's tough so we ended up giving this an 82 and I think the reason that it was so 975 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:36,640 low or as low as it is is because of that it does very much feel like a middle movie 976 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:42,440 yeah it feels like there's definitely something after and it either definitely was something 977 01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:50,920 before I told you in the middle of this I wish I would have watched 2018 before this 978 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,720 that that is fair that is absolutely fair there was just so many references and just 979 01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:01,400 like different things that I forgot about this movie or about the the first half of 980 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:08,600 this it almost feels like this was sorry no I have the the digital copy okay for it like 981 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:14,960 I I could have watched it I just didn't because I assumed that this was going to be a bit 982 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:23,520 more on its own this almost feels like this could have been like this could have been 983 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:30,520 like Halloween 2018 part two it yeah it really could it could it's kind of I look at this 984 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,540 the way that I look at like the original Halloween and Halloween 2 you could literally combine 985 01:24:35,540 --> 01:24:40,460 those into one movie yeah because it takes place right after Halloween this one takes 986 01:24:40,460 --> 01:24:52,880 place like minutes after dammit after Halloween 2018 yeah exactly exactly so I think that 987 01:24:52,880 --> 01:25:01,320 was something that detrimental the movie a bit not too much but just enough where I was 988 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:07,840 just like okay who's that like what like who are they talking about like the boyfriend 989 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:16,000 at what was it Alice's boyfriend yeah Cameron like I I didn't know who that was at all like 990 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:21,680 I was just dick he was in Halloween 2018 yeah I was just like okay so something went on 991 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:31,440 between these two no so as a standalone movie it's not great yeah as a sequel it is really 992 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:41,400 good so it was really hard to give it like a low score because it was it wasn't a standalone 993 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:48,920 yeah no no I definitely agree but it I I didn't feel good giving it a super high score either 994 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:56,320 because it was like like I said it wasn't a very good standalone like this isn't one 995 01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,980 that you can watch on your on its own like down one hat oh if you don't watch how like 996 01:26:01,980 --> 01:26:07,680 honestly I mean in a way I guess you could get away with not watching the original Halloween 997 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:14,600 because in the flashback scenes that do it they do explain what happens but if you yeah 998 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:21,160 if you don't watch Halloween 2018 you're gonna be hella lost in this movie very very much 999 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:28,320 so yeah like you said you could probably get away without watching the first one I would 1000 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:34,680 still highly recommend it because they do make a lot of references to that movie yes 1001 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:49,240 they do but I would definitely watch 2018 before this like that if if I was gonna watch 1002 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:56,120 either of these again I you have to watch them next to each other like slot us put aside 1003 01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:01,080 that time to to watch both of them because it just aside about like three and a half 1004 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:11,480 hours yeah so it just would not make any sense otherwise if you're going in blind to how 1005 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:20,920 like if you if you hadn't seen the first Halloween and if you hadn't seen Halloween 2018 you 1006 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:26,200 you would not understand this movie at all one bit it was like who the hell is Michael 1007 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:34,720 Myers why the hell is he killing people yeah it would be a really hard sell yeah oh absolutely 1008 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:44,360 so I think in 82 it is good it is an above average movie but and I think had it been 1009 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:51,080 a better standalone I probably would have put this up in the 90s probably like I could 1010 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:58,720 hide a mid that's fair yeah I can get that um because like speaking like of like the 1011 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:05,640 actual story I freaking loved the approach that they did in this movie of the whole mob 1012 01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:15,960 mentality of how as like as Haddonfield they've lived in terror for 40 years and since Lori 1013 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:22,240 couldn't kill his ass they're just like you know what we're we're gonna hunt down Michael 1014 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:29,080 Myers and the way that freaking Tommy Doyle like gets freaking everybody hyped up is really 1015 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:40,560 freaking cool to see and I want to touch upon that more with the writing in that regard 1016 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:47,600 but also sorry were you gonna say something no I I was actually just about to discuss 1017 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:57,720 that but yeah like discussing it more in writing oh okay um but I mean I guess he could really 1018 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:02,320 throw this in yeah we could throw it would you throw in like the recurring care like 1019 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,920 bringing back like other characters besides Laurie Strode from the first movie would you 1020 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:13,920 put that into acting or would you say that's into story I think that's more story okay 1021 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:26,720 um so in your so they do add some things that happened that night in 78 because as far as 1022 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:35,160 we know the only thing that we knew was that Michael was shot six times by Dr. Loomis he 1023 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:40,080 fell off the balcony and then as far as we know he was just arrested right after that 1024 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:45,960 but with the flashbacks you actually see that no he got up he got up and just started walking 1025 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:53,720 the streets of Haddonfield until he was finally arrested again but when it comes to like recurring 1026 01:29:53,720 --> 01:30:02,480 characters they actually add oh was it they actually add a lot to Lonnie Elam's character 1027 01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:08,680 who in the original it was just the kid that taunted Tommy Doyle and was just like oh don't 1028 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,480 you know what happens on Halloween you know the boogeyman is gonna get you that's really 1029 01:30:13,480 --> 01:30:19,480 the only thing that we see of Tommy except for not Tommy I'm sorry Lonnie besides when 1030 01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:26,000 the him and he was it his like two friends dare him to go into the Myers house at towards 1031 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,320 the end of the movie but Loomis shouts out hey Lonnie get your ass away from there and 1032 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:36,320 all three of them run away and freaking it's really fun like Donald Pleasant's smile at 1033 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,320 the end of that scene always like freaking makes me laugh because I don't know why it's 1034 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:47,840 just really funny dude I had it so backwards like oh who'd you think Lonnie was I know 1035 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:55,440 I thought Lonnie was the one that was getting picked on no I know Lonnie um see I actually 1036 01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:59,440 because I was actually kind of like getting like confused I'm like kid so if he's getting 1037 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:03,400 picked on this is kind of like totally out of his character a little bit because he does 1038 01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:09,840 get picked on and then he like like like cop car comes and tells all the kids you know 1039 01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,720 like go home because you know like there's a madman on the loose he killed three teenagers 1040 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:19,520 down the street and Lonnie as he's running home trips and he has an encounter with Michael 1041 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:25,240 Myers but he just kind of like he walks by him he doesn't like do anything but he does 1042 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:30,600 like stare face to face at him but when he's like crawled like crouched down he's actually 1043 01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,480 like apology I don't know if you heard but he's like apologizing he's like I'm sorry 1044 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:39,200 I bullied Tommy Doyle I'm sorry I'm you know like I bullied all these other kids so he's 1045 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:43,040 kind of like freaking like begging for his life and like apologizing for everything that 1046 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:48,400 he's done as a little kid that's what confused the shit out of me I thought Lonnie was the 1047 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:55,440 one that was getting picked on no yeah so no in the original it was Tommy but in this 1048 01:31:55,440 --> 01:32:00,480 one at least from what we see of that night it's Lonnie who so like Lonnie got a taste 1049 01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:10,440 of his own medicine I guess okay which you know like that makes me feel a little different 1050 01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:19,040 then about like the whole that whole situation okay I mean did you like actually does it 1051 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:23,360 see like I thought I was actually going to hate that like they made Lonnie more of a 1052 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:30,160 presence in this movie but like the I really liked the kid that they picked I mean this 1053 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:35,960 is more so going to acting but I love what they added to him and especially when he's 1054 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:42,640 an he's an adult I actually really like where they took his story so I was actually okay 1055 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:48,880 that they added a lot to his lore in this than what was originally in 1978 the 1978 1056 01:32:48,880 --> 01:33:01,000 original okay yeah I had those characters so ass backwards okay like I had them so confused 1057 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:07,160 like I thought throughout this whole thing that Tommy was the one getting everyone hyped 1058 01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:16,520 up right yes okay I thought Tommy was the one that was getting picked on and then Lonnie 1059 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:25,640 wait so okay so okay so Tommy Doyle if from the original he is the one that Laurie Strode 1060 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:36,240 does babysit he's the kid though yes he's the little boy that like when was it like 1061 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:41,000 towards the beginning when Laurie Strode is about to drop the key off at the Myers house 1062 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:45,360 he starts walking around with her and he's just like oh you can't go in there Lonnie 1063 01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:53,360 Elam says that's the boogeyman's house okay so Tommy was like the ringleader of everything 1064 01:33:53,360 --> 01:34:00,520 and then Lonnie so Lonnie picked on Tommy yes I don't know if you remember but like 1065 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,560 this is like after they had gotten like out of school they were like getting ready to 1066 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:10,480 go home and he's one of the kids that trips Tommy and Tommy falls on his pumpkin okay 1067 01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:16,560 I'm remembering that a little bit okay now shit maybe we should have like watched the 1068 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:23,320 original Halloween before we watched this together we definitely should have it was 1069 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:31,000 confusing like at least those two because I have them mixed up like I said thank you 1070 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:41,120 like I thought Lonnie was the the ringleader like the one getting everyone hyped up like 1071 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:47,640 I thought he was the bully wait wait he was he the bully Lonnie technically was the bully 1072 01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:56,360 okay did I had it backwards okay I thought okay so I had it backwards I thought I thought 1073 01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:06,960 Tommy was the bully and then Lonnie was the one getting picked on so that makes a lot 1074 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:13,440 more sense now a lot of that stuff makes a lot more sense now okay cool at least like 1075 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:18,320 story wise because like what I was telling you like because we kind of paused the movie 1076 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:25,440 to discuss a little bit I thought it was so weird that Lonnie felt like he had to go in 1077 01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:32,440 and face Michael alone yeah I was just like why does like why like the most that happened 1078 01:35:32,440 --> 01:35:40,360 to him was he had a face-to-face interaction with Michael but it wasn't him it was Tommy 1079 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:46,320 right what no no Lonnie is the one that had a face-to-face encounter Lonnie had the face 1080 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:55,760 so yeah you were right Tommy son of a bitch did I the only exit did I accidentally come 1081 01:35:55,760 --> 01:36:07,760 up with an issue that actually worked okay so Lonnie Lonnie was the bully yes Lonnie 1082 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:14,600 was Lon Lonnie is the kid that like tripped tripped and fell on the concrete and Michael 1083 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:19,280 walked up to him and stood there I don't know how long he stood there but then walked away 1084 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:28,480 then okay so I was absolutely correct then Lonnie had no reason to have like didn't have 1085 01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:36,280 that proper motivation to go face Michael alone if I think about it kind of I think 1086 01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:43,640 Lonnie actually has more of a reason because if I'm more than Tommy really I think so if 1087 01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:53,440 it if we're in regards to actually like who got the closest to Michael Myers because Tommy 1088 01:36:53,440 --> 01:37:05,040 literally um well maybe because the the closest I remember Tommy getting to Michael is when 1089 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:10,600 Laurie see well him and Lindsay see him in the hallway and then Laurie shoves them into 1090 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,640 a room really quickly and locks the door as far as I know that was actually like the only 1091 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:28,160 time that Michael that Tommy fully saw Michael Myers okay but the I think the reason like 1092 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:34,240 I feel like Tommy has more of a motivation to want to go after Michael than Lonnie does 1093 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:40,240 because all Lonnie did was that face to face yeah like I don't think he had any real personal 1094 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:45,360 connection like he called himself a survivor because he came face to face with Michael 1095 01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:51,800 Myers so I think his motivation for going in and being like I need to face him alone 1096 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:58,560 like not he didn't really like say that but he had that mentality and I think that came 1097 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:04,220 I felt like it came out of nowhere it's just kind of okay why yeah I mean like if you think 1098 01:38:04,220 --> 01:38:10,200 maybe like Tom I don't know I think maybe what they why they were saying like oh he 1099 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,160 needs to go on it alone because he does say the line you know you're so stupid you brought 1100 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:25,400 your kid into the belly of the beast and he didn't want I guess his kid I mean I wait 1101 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:32,920 did Cameron's besides before he was killed did Cameron ever come face to face with Michael 1102 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:40,840 Myers unless he came face to face with him in the first one no okay so I think maybe 1103 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:46,280 that's why he didn't want he was hoping that he would be the one to kill Michael by himself 1104 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:51,880 and so he didn't want his son to go through the same thing that he had to do even though 1105 01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:57,640 I mean I feel as a younger kid seeing a man like that walking towards you is going to 1106 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:03,880 be a lot more traumatizing than say you're a high schooler like Cameron is agreed because 1107 01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:09,600 I'll fully admit the situation that Lonnie was in with just Michael just walking down 1108 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:18,080 the freaking sidewalk I'd probably piss my pants because that's some scary shit yeah 1109 01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:24,320 so I think that was just like one big plot hole for me it's just like why did he like 1110 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:30,920 like if I'm fully like I fully would have accepted had he been like listen your kids 1111 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:35,000 you stay in here or you stay out here it's safer out here blah blah blah I would have 1112 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:42,720 fully accepted that a lot more than I need to do this like that kind of attitude yeah 1113 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:47,240 like I if they would have just made that shift I probably would have accepted that scene 1114 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:56,520 a lot better okay but yeah it was just like yeah whatever so I think that was like my 1115 01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:03,400 biggest my biggest gripe with the I'd say the one thing that I actually would have loved 1116 01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:15,760 to see is Lonnie and Tommy both facing Michael Myers together I would have loved that because 1117 01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:21,680 I actually love that even though Lonnie was a bully to Tommy as a kid the dramatic experience 1118 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,520 that they went through as children actually like brought them like really close together 1119 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:30,480 and they actually formed a really good friendship I actually love that idea and I think that 1120 01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:36,800 would have been a really cool idea if they were actually able to face Michael Myers together 1121 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:44,560 I absolutely agree with you that would have been so much better 1122 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:49,720 but at least there is one surviving member from besides Laurie Strode from the original 1123 01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:54,580 cast and I think she actually confirmed that she is going to be in Halloween ends Lindsey 1124 01:40:54,580 --> 01:41:03,240 Wallace is still alive yeah that's gonna be great so kind of see how she deals with the 1125 01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:10,240 that trauma of seeing him again yeah I would have at least liked to see either Lonnie or 1126 01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:18,880 Tommy make it out of this one like why did they both have to die yeah yeah that kind 1127 01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:27,080 of sucked and I think another thing I think Tommy just died in a very unsatisfying way 1128 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:31,680 yeah the only thing like satisfying thing about his death was that like the final blow 1129 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:40,880 to him was with the old huckleberry bat but I don't know for how much like he like for 1130 01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:46,120 what he went through that night and like you know like he got all these mobs together and 1131 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:51,200 like truly wanting to take down Michael Myers once and for all yeah he kind of went out 1132 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:57,840 and kind of like a not a pussy kind of way but a way that is not it wasn't that memorable 1133 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:07,440 I agree I think honestly it was a was a Marion yes yep yeah I think Marion got a better 1134 01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:16,440 kill than then Tommy did I felt so bad for his cuz one well okay so before she died exactly 1135 01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:23,440 how she should have in the first or in like the original yeah well first before we get 1136 01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:30,160 to Michael's craftsmanship I feel so bad for Michael opens the door cuz it's her and this 1137 01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:36,040 husband and wife and like Lindsay's SUV and they're trying to fight off Michael and so 1138 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:41,340 Michael opens the like driver's side door cuz Marion's in the passenger and she aims 1139 01:42:41,340 --> 01:42:47,800 the gun at him and she's just like hey Michael this is for dr. Loomis and it jams I don't 1140 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,600 know yeah she was out yeah she was out of bullets yeah she was yeah sorry she was out 1141 01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:57,360 of bullets and I'm just like I knew that was gonna happen but it still sucked and so I 1142 01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:03,520 think like he stabs her like five times in the stomach um and then you know Michael being 1143 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,840 the craftsmanship that he is takes a silver shamrock mask that those kids had dropped 1144 01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:16,960 before and puts the couple on a carousel or not carousel what the hell is it called um 1145 01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:25,960 the spinning thing that they have in uh playgrounds I don't know what that's called yeah I think 1146 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:31,560 I honestly I call them carousels carousels okay we're just gonna call it a carousel um 1147 01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:38,160 and then I feel Marion's is the worst because he has her freaking hanging by one of the 1148 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:45,760 uh swing chains it's so sad like honestly that is so sad dude it's freaking brutal yeah 1149 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:52,880 yeah um like honestly like fair warning if you guys are not I mean if you guys have like 1150 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,600 listened this far you really don't care if the movie gets spoiled for you but if you 1151 01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:03,280 guys do actually want to go and watch this movie please know that this is the brutalist 1152 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:07,720 Michael Myers has ever been if you are not a fan of gore if you are not a fan of a lot 1153 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:13,160 of blood gut spewing you're not going to probably enjoy this movie like you're probably going 1154 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:21,120 to get a very queasy stomach yep they do not hold back at all yeah okay I don't care what 1155 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:30,640 they show you I do not consider myself a queasy person like I can handle gore fairly easy 1156 01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:35,320 like I've watched the saw movies I've had like a little like oh that doesn't seem right 1157 01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:42,240 like those types of issues um yeah I think the most like guttural reaction I've had at 1158 01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:50,000 least of with a horror movie lately was ready or not when she had a hole blown through her 1159 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:56,480 hand and she like slapped it over a nail like I lost my mind I was like no like can't handle 1160 01:44:56,480 --> 01:45:07,080 that um this may gave me lots of guttural reactions just like oh my gosh like just things 1161 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:15,120 that were just hard to watch yeah it was rough and it's usually like it's always with shit 1162 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:26,820 that goes through like the face um so there's a there's a couple living in Michael Myers 1163 01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:37,440 house and one of the guys that that dies Michael like lifts up his arm and stabs him in the 1164 01:45:37,440 --> 01:45:45,480 armpit like I don't know why that one just like meal like oh my gosh dude that's fair 1165 01:45:45,480 --> 01:45:50,440 because like honestly like you never think of someone's stag stabbing someone there so 1166 01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:55,200 I think that's why you're kind of just like oh okay yeah and it was just like the little 1167 01:45:55,200 --> 01:46:01,240 shit too like at the end he's like he's like slicing all these people he like cuts their 1168 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:05,880 throat and I'm like okay whatever and then there's like one lady that like tries to kick 1169 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:17,240 him and she cuts like the back of her foot I'm like jeez yeah exactly I'm like bloody 1170 01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:27,520 hell um oh and then the the the asylum patient that freaking jumped off of the the hospital 1171 01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:36,120 like he was like when they cut to him like usually usually like when I think of like 1172 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:40,100 other times where horror movies have done where they've gotten pushed off a building 1173 01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:45,840 fallen off a building whatever they're usually like hitting a car and then they're still 1174 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:52,400 intact they're just all bloodied with like shrapnel everywhere glass everywhere whatever 1175 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:56,920 yeah or in other cases where they're just like completely splattered across the floor 1176 01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:04,680 unrecognizable this dude was like splattered across he was like half and half yeah like 1177 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:09,120 he was splattered across like the floor but you could still like make out his face and 1178 01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:19,520 for some reason that just made it worse oh yeah yeah that is like honestly the one time 1179 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:25,480 in this movie like I that is like the one death like I struggle sometimes watching just 1180 01:47:25,480 --> 01:47:31,680 not only because of the circumstance but because it's so freaking gruesome and usually I'm 1181 01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:36,640 very good at handling horror movies it's very rare that I can't handle anything I'm I'm 1182 01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:42,960 pretty good when it comes to handling blood all of these kills were gruesome yeah I think 1183 01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:49,080 the one thing that like made me just like oh shit like the most was when he was attacking 1184 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:58,160 Marion in the SUV Marion and that that couple because I think what was so gruesome like 1185 01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:02,960 what made me like oh shit like Michael not messing around he was walking around with 1186 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:12,520 the bloody mask of a child we had seen earlier yeah like we didn't see a child we didn't 1187 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:17,840 like we didn't see a murder child it was just heavily implied and holy shit was it heavily 1188 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:27,180 implied yes very very much so and that was just like a visceral just oh shit like for 1189 01:48:27,180 --> 01:48:33,640 me and then like the way that he like went and attacked Marion again the exact same way 1190 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:38,240 that she was attacked in the first or in the original like he I kind of like slapping the 1191 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:46,280 windows talking to her yeah it's like it's almost like he's just like oh someone in the 1192 01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:52,600 car better pull this move out it's just kind of like you weren't special Marion he does 1193 01:48:52,600 --> 01:49:02,660 it for everyone and I think that was like a like a big reaction for me too like how 1194 01:49:02,660 --> 01:49:06,920 stupid she was because she wasn't it like the same issue kind of like she didn't have 1195 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:13,640 a weapon in that one right no basically what happened is so like in the original he does 1196 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:21,280 the same thing with the window and then and then I think what was it I think after that 1197 01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,680 she actually does jump she does get out of the car and then he climbs down from the roof 1198 01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:32,480 and gets into the car and drives away okay yeah so with this one it's the same thing 1199 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:38,800 he slaps the window breaks it does the exact same thing she doesn't shoot through the roof 1200 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:45,160 like you know a normal person would and she's like trying to shoot him through the windows 1201 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:49,440 like anytime he like reveals himself and I'm like bitch the most you're gonna get is his 1202 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:58,120 hand yeah and you can see that he's perfectly fine with only having a couple fingers yeah 1203 01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:08,200 so like he jumps down goes to it like attack her but gets it like attacked by the the husband 1204 01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:15,160 of the like of the couple and I think like his death was just like another one that was 1205 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:19,800 really hard for me to watch because he takes a knife and just stabs it like not even like 1206 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:26,440 in the dude's eye it was like through the dude's cheek into his eye yeah and then it 1207 01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:31,480 was just the way that his face was like sticking out a little bit like you could see the knife 1208 01:50:31,480 --> 01:50:43,800 inside his head that made me just like and so that was like another guttural reaction 1209 01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:49,760 out of me and then easily my favorite death and it was because it was so freaking funny 1210 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:56,680 was his wife like his wife is like shoot like Michael's just sitting in the in the driver 1211 01:50:56,680 --> 01:51:03,480 seat and she's just unloading this gun on him or attempting to and he's just like sitting 1212 01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:07,120 there she's like shooting to the left of him shooting to the right of him misses a few 1213 01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:12,480 times and he's just kind of sitting there and then he he just kicks the door and it 1214 01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:21,840 like flips the gun on her and she blows her own brains out and it was freaking hilarious 1215 01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:27,400 you shouldn't laugh like like you tell Michael like it's to the point he's just like bitch 1216 01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:33,760 are you serious yeah like it was just that like that posture he's just kind of like just 1217 01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:38,080 like he wasn't even moving he's just sitting there and then she's just like walking towards 1218 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:46,640 him missing and then he's like boom kicks the door like Spartan kicks the door and apparently 1219 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:54,240 no one taught her trigger safety and she shoots herself in the face and it was just it was 1220 01:51:54,240 --> 01:52:01,720 so quick yeah and like it was probably the least brutal of all the kills but it was freaking 1221 01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:08,160 hilarious yeah it was you shouldn't have laughed at a kill but yeah that one's really freaking 1222 01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:15,720 funny yeah like i think it was just the way that it happened no that's fair that's absolutely 1223 01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:27,400 fair yeah so i thought that was great but yeah i think my personal favorite uh kill 1224 01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:36,720 of michael's in this had to be Cameron's at the at the end you know what that's fair that 1225 01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:47,600 one so that one he's in he's in the the Myers house um Allison is got thrown down the stairs 1226 01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:53,860 broke her leg and is basically calling Michael out and so he's bushwhacking Cameron like 1227 01:52:53,860 --> 01:53:03,680 he smashes his face through the um uh the railing of the of the stairs or kind of or 1228 01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:11,640 the the the guard like he smashes his face through that and then just like reaches over 1229 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:17,360 grabs his head and just like is slamming it like left right down like over over and just 1230 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:24,560 like basically just beating the shit out of this kid like with his head against like these 1231 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:31,880 posts and so like the dude's like freaking just like bleeding out and just like and whatever 1232 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:39,400 and so yeah Allison calls him down and so he's just like all right walks around the 1233 01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:44,840 stairs starts coming down stops when he's like right next to Cameron's head and just 1234 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:53,080 flips his head backwards i'm just like like oh my god like it's so good so good like i 1235 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:58,840 knew it was coming i'm just like actually i didn't like not not in that way like i 1236 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,360 was thinking like okay what's Michael gonna do with this one like this is this is gonna 1237 01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:08,200 be great like i thought he was just gonna like oh i knew what i thought he was gonna 1238 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:14,120 do i i thought he was gonna like grab his head and like put like basically like snap 1239 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:20,280 it down okay that'd been a cool way to do it yeah i think that would have been cool 1240 01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:26,440 but i love like just the brutality of like just grabbing and just like flipping his head 1241 01:54:26,440 --> 01:54:32,840 backwards and then continuing to go down to to Allison and i'm like shit honestly the 1242 01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:38,200 fact that this movie for the most part to me at least redeems Cameron from only 2018 1243 01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:43,160 i actually felt bad for him that he died in that way i don't remember how big of a douche 1244 01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:51,800 he was so i did not have that like connection of like oh he's like he's fine now i was just 1245 01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:59,160 like oh shit like that sucks um i mean if we're if we're saying like our favorite kill um 1246 01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:03,560 and this is on this was like mine since the first time i saw it it's when Michael kills 1247 01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:11,120 this uh couple both times both of their initial being killed is he breaks a uh one of those 1248 01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:18,880 like strip light bulbs and jabs it into their necks um and so after he does the so he does 1249 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:26,680 the husband and then he does the wife and then um after he does it to the wife he drags 1250 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:33,120 the husband's body back into the kitchen and lays his body over the kitchen table and i'm 1251 01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:37,840 i swear he does this like five freaking times he he looks at like their knife selection on 1252 01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:44,440 their like knife uh hold like magnet holding uh board and it's just taking one each individually 1253 01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:48,960 looking at it see if he wants it wants it and if he doesn't he stabs it into the guy's 1254 01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:54,800 back and he just does this like five freaking times i think i think it was like five times 1255 01:55:54,800 --> 01:56:01,080 while the wife is bleeding to death on the floor and finally he gets a good selection 1256 01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:07,680 and then walks away and i don't know why just maybe it's just so effed up and it's so brutal 1257 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:12,400 but that is my favorite kill which is how he just keeps stabbing the knives into the 1258 01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:18,040 guy's back yeah dude and it was i think it like what was intimidating about that one 1259 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:24,240 was his posture like it wasn't like a very robotic like grab a knife stab like grab a 1260 01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:28,160 knife stab it was like the way that he was just like his hands were just kind of up by 1261 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:35,680 his chest and then he would like reach over grab one and then like yeah and then like 1262 01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:40,760 go like crazy and stab and then he'd like go back to like that like selection posture 1263 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,480 like oh i'm gonna try picking that i'm gonna try picking that like it was just like very 1264 01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:49,800 like close and up high like that's where his hands were the entire time and then he would 1265 01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:54,880 like nope and then like go into like a brutal stabbing and then just go right back up into 1266 01:56:54,880 --> 01:57:00,520 that very like delicate selection posture like i don't know how else to describe it 1267 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:08,000 other than no you t-rex you explained it perfectly no that is the perfect way to explain it and 1268 01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:12,560 yeah that i don't know just that fact alone like you said just how he like admires the 1269 01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:17,840 knife for a minute and then he brutally stabs it into the guy's back like just made it my 1270 01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:28,080 favorite kill of the movie yeah um so yeah story sitting at an 82 and i think i think 1271 01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:32,520 we talked about a lot of stuff that we could have thrown in effects yeah but hey you know 1272 01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:39,440 what means we can get to the score faster maybe in effects yeah so yeah sitting at 82 1273 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:47,640 for story yeah uh moving on over to writing uh we're sitting at an 84 um so i actually 1274 01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:55,240 went higher with with my what did i give this actually you gave it a 78 okay what did you 1275 01:57:55,240 --> 01:58:03,320 give it i gave it a 90 and like i wanted to hear your thoughts because like your scores 1276 01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:09,560 were like your your the difference between your story and writing was only like two points 1277 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:14,920 yeah like the difference between my story and my writing was like six and it's just 1278 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:20,640 because i thought like and i'll just get into it real quick like everyone knows i hate wasted 1279 01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:26,400 writing or unnecessary dialogue there wasn't anything that came out of this movie that 1280 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:32,120 i felt was like unnecessary the only reason that i get i docked it those 10 points from 1281 01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:39,280 100 was because of like just the classic like dialogue that you're just like okay whatever 1282 01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:47,280 like just the the weird little throwaway lines um yeah and it was usually like the weird 1283 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,640 conversations people would have before michael came in and was just like would bushwhack 1284 01:58:51,640 --> 01:59:01,880 the shit out of them so that was like my my only issue that's fair um can i actually change 1285 01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:08,040 my score yeah sure if you want yeah dude like the more that i think about like the lines 1286 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:15,760 lines that like tommy had and lani had yeah i'm going up to an 85 because um i think the 1287 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:21,000 biggest one that stands out like honestly i don't know why i get like freaking goosebumps 1288 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:28,080 every time is when uh tommy first gets to uh hattonfield hospital inside at least and 1289 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:32,680 you know he's telling like everybody uh you know uh the boogeyman is at large michael 1290 01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:38,800 meyers has like no choice but to emerge and when he does there will be no uh there will 1291 01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:44,280 be no holding back there will be you know we're just gonna go after him um and this 1292 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:49,640 is like all i remember from the part is and he says uh michael meyers will be executed 1293 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:56,120 tonight and and it will not go without witness we need all of you evil dies tonight and the 1294 01:59:56,120 --> 02:00:04,120 way he freaking says it just gets you so freaking hyped and i oh my gosh like i like i get freaking 1295 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:09,200 goosebumps every single time he says evil dies tonight in that one part i freaking love 1296 02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:18,400 it so much dude it was so good it was so good the only like just trying to like think more 1297 02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:24,720 like think of specifics on what i docked for um i think i docked for everything the uh 1298 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:33,520 the sheriff or marshall like whoever the hell that like that main dude was uh the cop the 1299 02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:42,960 one that was the one i was in the other uh bed with lori no not him the uh the sheriff 1300 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:48,400 or whoever the hell was that was basically saying like i am the law and he was like just 1301 02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:55,280 getting overrun by these people like he was so he was worthless as shit like he's just 1302 02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:01,080 like hey we don't do that like i am the law like i am like i will bring justice and that 1303 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:06,680 are and then tommy was just like well you haven't done shit man like like we got this 1304 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:12,240 yeah he's like we watched your department fail miserably tonight yeah and it's almost 1305 02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:17,880 like the dude got smacked in the face and just had like a ringing in his ears and because 1306 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:22,680 like the next time you see him he's like sitting in the stairwell just like staring off into 1307 02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:30,480 space i'm like so dumb like like thinking oh what happened to you are the law you know 1308 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:34,840 honestly like thinking about him i think back to holland 2018 when hawkins you know like 1309 02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:40,760 said hey you know this is the guy that you need to watch that escaped when the bus crashed 1310 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:45,440 and he's just like whoa michael meyers loose in hattonfield on halloween night man we're 1311 02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:49,920 gonna have a circus on our hands but what are we gonna do cancel halloween that's exactly 1312 02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:58,440 what you do like hawkins said in halloween 2018 there is a reason you guys are supposed 1313 02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:07,360 to be afraid of this night yeah like i that is actually one line that i remember from 1314 02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:13,240 that movie like what are we supposed to do cancel halloween i'm like yeah that's exactly 1315 02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:18,480 what you're supposed to do tell everybody to stay inside and put out a huge manhunt 1316 02:02:18,480 --> 02:02:27,640 for michael meyers that's what you do but yeah i think that's why i docked it as as 1317 02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:37,200 much as i did otherwise i think the script was damn near flawless yeah like like hell 1318 02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,400 i've never been like i've i don't think i've ever gotten like hyped up by writing in a 1319 02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:46,480 halloween movie but freaking the writing that they did for tommy and then like honestly 1320 02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:51,240 um i know it's like a small scene but like when like tommy and lani are like talking 1321 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,400 about like hey you know like the only way that uh we're gonna do this is if we uh work 1322 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:59,720 together and he's like you're goddamn right and he freaking just shows the arsenal what 1323 02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:03,240 he has and tommy's just like do you even have a permit for these and he's just like some 1324 02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:13,360 of them freaking loved that writing that was great um yeah i think tommy's evil dies tonight 1325 02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:23,720 speech definitely shows how powerful the mob mentality is and it's terrifying yeah 1326 02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:34,320 it is so scary um and i think that like it did an amazing job at reflecting that absolutely 1327 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:42,160 um so writing is sitting at an 87.5 now hell yeah so it is significantly better yeah it's 1328 02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:48,000 significantly higher than the story and i think the reason that it could it scored that high 1329 02:03:48,000 --> 02:04:00,360 too is because like the because the dialogue worked so well and because like story wise 1330 02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:07,240 the story is based on this movie alone but it's hard to justify giving it a low score 1331 02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:11,840 because the story and this one wasn't super great because of how connected it is to the 1332 02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:17,960 first one so i think it would be unfair to be like okay only this movie yes just because 1333 02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:24,360 of how much it relies on previous material really quickly i just want your opinion um 1334 02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:30,440 kind of not like going back to story but kind of story based when hawkins tells lori that 1335 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:38,720 he's not after him basically he's a six-year-old boy in a grown man's body that literally the 1336 02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:44,560 only thing i mean they don't know why he kills but basically the only reason that they see 1337 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,600 why he does what he does is because he only has one thing that he wants to do and that 1338 02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:53,760 is to go home do you like did you like that did you like that they didn't make it to where 1339 02:04:53,760 --> 02:05:00,800 like yeah no he's just strictly after lori when in halloween 2018 it's clear that the 1340 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:07,120 only reason that he gets to lori's house is because dr sartain takes him there yeah i 1341 02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:13,640 i loved that i loved that like how confused people were on on his motivations throughout 1342 02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:19,360 the whole thing like i think what got got him worked up like and especially i think 1343 02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:25,780 why the mob fell for like that mentality so fast is because unfortunately that that the 1344 02:05:25,780 --> 02:05:34,720 other patient came into that hospital and i think with tommy hearing oh michael i think 1345 02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:40,760 it's karen's fault actually like why that happened because she was so on the on the 1346 02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:46,440 team of like oh michael's coming for her coming for lori like he's obsessed with her like 1347 02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:54,280 he's coming here and tommy was just like all right well we know he's coming here and it 1348 02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:59,340 honestly makes sense because people were like or that couple was like michael's in our in 1349 02:05:59,340 --> 02:06:03,880 our front seat and so he would have at least from where he was he would have been able 1350 02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:11,440 to see that guy so he honestly would have thought oh that's michael because i don't 1351 02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:19,280 think on the news i don't think they showed um the names of the the the patients no i 1352 02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:24,600 don't think they did yeah they only showed the pictures so it makes sense that he would 1353 02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:36,280 have like gone that hard at that man yeah one like after uh after um mr tavoli commits 1354 02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:42,480 suicide um bracket says like hey it's not him and tommy's just like how do you know 1355 02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:49,960 we've only seen him wear a mask yeah i'm like that's one way to justify your murder yeah 1356 02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:55,520 that's one way to justify that you have blood on your hands now but okay sure yeah because 1357 02:06:55,520 --> 02:07:00,880 it's like how could anyone deny that they have blood on their anyone involved in that 1358 02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:06,960 situation yeah but i mean just truly shows what fear can do to not only a person but 1359 02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:19,600 a community exactly um yeah and that's getting into um to acting too i feel 1360 02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:26,960 um like i said writing was sitting at an 87.5 moving on over to acting um i'm not sure how 1361 02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:39,840 you did this unfortunately i didn't grade lori i i did a little bit um and i mean not 1362 02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:44,640 as much as all the other characters um there is definitely one actor that did bring it 1363 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:52,200 down for me who was that um it was actually and i felt really bad for this it was uh sheriff 1364 02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:59,920 bracket or lee bracket whatever um for me and i feel like the only like true one of 1365 02:07:59,920 --> 02:08:04,960 the biggest lines that he delivers is when he's just like oh he killed my daughter 40 1366 02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:11,720 years ago and desecrated her body evil dies tonight i don't know the acting just wasn't 1367 02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:16,120 that strong in my opinion and honestly you could say that in any line that he says even 1368 02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:21,560 when he says uh you know oh hey michael it's halloween everyone's entitled to one good 1369 02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:29,480 scare it didn't feel as good as it did in the original yeah honestly i think what he 1370 02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:35,760 should have done was like a battle cry for his daughter that would have made a bit more 1371 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:41,840 sense and i think what just didn't sell he just didn't sell that it was his daughter 1372 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:49,480 hard enough i think that if he would have like started breaking down or something like 1373 02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:53,840 been a little bit more choked up when he's talking about what michael did i think that 1374 02:08:53,840 --> 02:09:00,160 that would have made the scene a lot more powerful that's fair um but yeah the ones 1375 02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:13,240 that i scored like one was uh judy greer who played karen um i definitely graded uh anthony 1376 02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:23,200 michael hall who played tommy yes um and then i also did uh robert longstreet who played 1377 02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:30,960 lani everyone else i just kind of threw into a different category and what about allison 1378 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:35,920 and cameron allison and cameron i didn't throw in too much because i didn't think their roles 1379 02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:41,200 were like that significant i feel out i don't know i feel allison actually had a lot to 1380 02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:49,600 do in this one in a way but she she felt like such a background character to me okay let's 1381 02:09:49,600 --> 02:10:04,280 see where it comes from um but yeah and then i think i graded um james jude cortney a little 1382 02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:10,200 bit like i gave him some points too like it was almost like bonus points because he did 1383 02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:17,520 really well oh my god he has the mannerisms the movement just everything down of what 1384 02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:23,280 how the shape moves like that part after uh like karen grabs his mask and starts running 1385 02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:29,240 away the way that like he has his like shoulders like kind of just like slunched down and just 1386 02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:35,760 the way that like he's like just oh my god so perfect i can't get over how perfectly 1387 02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:41,720 he walks as michael meyers just everything is perfect he does such a great job he deserves 1388 02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:47,360 so much credit oh my god i love james jude cortney dude you want to talk about perfect 1389 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:56,960 like let's freaking talk about uh erin armstrong who played michael back in the 70s yeah um 1390 02:10:56,960 --> 02:11:04,560 the only problem that i have with his performance it's honestly the end when it's uh like the 1391 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:12,160 whole like pan out shot when all of the cops have uh their guns on michael um he's the 1392 02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:19,680 way he's standing like slunched over um and like just i don't know from like from seeing 1393 02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:23,920 the original halloween so much i'm sorry that is not how michael would that's not how michael 1394 02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:33,600 stands in one place um so how would you describe his posture michael stands like very like straight 1395 02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:39,080 up um like boot like his like boots were like kind of it looked like he was almost like 1396 02:11:39,080 --> 02:11:47,400 standing cross foot um michael would definitely be standing uh boots uh faced forward standing 1397 02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:54,000 up straight hands to his side which he was he did have his hands to his side um but just 1398 02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:59,440 he definitely seemed like a little not maybe like hunched over up like in his back but 1399 02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:04,740 just like in his knees and his legs i think that's what was kind of like not working for 1400 02:12:04,740 --> 02:12:09,920 me was the legs the upper portion was fine the upper portion was perfect it's just the 1401 02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:15,120 knees and the legs that the actor needed to work on when he was though like actually like 1402 02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:24,720 walking down the streets of haddonfield oh my gosh he nailed it he was great um but that 1403 02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:32,440 and maybe um like the walking down the stairs when uh bracket not bracket um hawkins is 1404 02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:37,880 like shooting at him before he walks out the door and like is caught um i don't know that 1405 02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:43,320 like walking kind of seemed a little bit weird to me for michael meyers i'll give you that 1406 02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:49,080 um but no overall like the actor that they chose to play young michael did a great job 1407 02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:54,400 i'm like i'm trying not to be like an asshole and like nitpick because overall he did a 1408 02:12:54,400 --> 02:13:01,080 great job i'm very pleased with his performance yeah honestly i was most impressed with the 1409 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:09,920 uh out of everything was the the past scenes the the scenes from 78 they did such a great 1410 02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:16,840 job looking like they took those actually out of the original halloween they amazing 1411 02:13:16,840 --> 02:13:23,080 job whoever like did uh the uh like aging effect of the film or where like the type 1412 02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:35,840 of like camera work that they did um outstanding job yeah they did amazing um yeah i so we 1413 02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:40,560 ended like did i say what we ended up giving acting uh you did not yeah so we're sitting 1414 02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:48,280 at an 81 so it's like which i might i'm actually going to adjust my score bring it down with 1415 02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:55,960 just just a hair what is yours at i was sitting at like an 86 so i'm bringing mine down to 1416 02:13:55,960 --> 02:14:06,880 like an 82 what am i at a 76 i probably would actually stick with that yeah so that bumps 1417 02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:15,520 um acting down to a 79 okay see i think i can definitely agree with that yeah and i 1418 02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:21,920 think it was just like what ended up bringing it down was all these extras um i think the 1419 02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:28,400 main cast which i i consider anthony michael hall's character tommy and lani to kind of 1420 02:14:28,400 --> 02:14:37,520 be the main players yeah um lori was kind of down for the count for a majority yeah 1421 02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:43,160 lori is definitely sidelined in this movie and nothing against jamie lee curtis i know 1422 02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:47,920 i think she was like trying something different with lori in here and for me it kind of didn't 1423 02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:54,120 work um this is definitely not her best acting what did you think she was trying to do i've 1424 02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:58,240 been told that she was kind of trying to do like a surviving sarah connor kind of vibe 1425 02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:10,440 i don't know like she was good but just not like great as i've seen her in the past as 1426 02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:20,640 lori yeah i think what what what ruined it was like her her attitude about michael being 1427 02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:27,920 dead it was just almost too positive like yeah like almost like oh like excited like 1428 02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:32,940 oh i can go back to my life can go back to normal not realizing that she spent her entire 1429 02:15:32,940 --> 02:15:41,040 life ready to face this man i lost 40 years trying to or waiting for this guy to escape 1430 02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:46,160 so i could actually kill him yeah i like shit almost like feeling like i almost would have 1431 02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:52,280 preferred her to start feeling like okay now what feelings yeah i would yeah i would have 1432 02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:57,680 actually loved that yeah so i think i i definitely agree she she could have been done better 1433 02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:04,680 um honestly everyone could have done better i think the standouts were definitely tommy 1434 02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:12,640 and lani i think um karen stood out for me towards the end with the part where she's 1435 02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:17,680 just like you want to you want to kill someone take me um i'm an innocent woman just like 1436 02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:23,840 you're i don't know i actually really liked that part um just i don't know just the way 1437 02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:29,760 that she says uh uh it was right here she was in her bedroom at your house can't you 1438 02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:36,760 feel it just i don't know why i like that scene actually a lot i didn't care for it 1439 02:16:36,760 --> 02:16:42,500 as much i thought she was uh understandable like i liked her a lot better in the the first 1440 02:16:42,500 --> 02:16:50,320 one because of how badass of a scene she had when she was like almost like crying when 1441 02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:55,360 michael was coming at her and then she just like got you bitch yes like that was like 1442 02:16:55,360 --> 02:16:59,120 such a great moment they try to replicate that and i think it just came off like really 1443 02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:05,560 bad that's right i mean i do like that she supposedly gets the final blow to michael 1444 02:17:05,560 --> 02:17:14,840 but it turns out it's not yeah i have an updated theory on that which we can get into later 1445 02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:26,080 okay um i love it yeah so acting is sitting at a 79 uh moving on over to our character 1446 02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:36,520 development which we're changing to logic um i i went a little bit on the low side with 1447 02:17:36,520 --> 02:17:43,040 this one um i know you went a lot higher you were you were sitting at a 90 i was sitting 1448 02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:51,600 at a 78 and i think the reason i went that low was because i felt like they were trying 1449 02:17:51,600 --> 02:18:00,800 to take a more realistic approach towards uh michael yeah and so just that that realism 1450 02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:07,080 like all of the kills i thought were were really well really well done and like just 1451 02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:17,280 showed like the true horror of like of certain like these types of deaths um but i think 1452 02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:24,200 what what killed it for me was just michael's invincibility that's fair i mean the way i 1453 02:18:24,200 --> 02:18:28,520 guess like the way that you can back that up is how lori says the more he kills the 1454 02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:33,120 more he transcends into the epitome of evil and of course the epitome of evil can't be 1455 02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:39,840 stopped there's nothing that can kill true evil yeah but it's almost like it was taking 1456 02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:46,760 like a supernatural super it's going back to a supernatural approach for michael and 1457 02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:52,280 for something that they were trying to set in reality like i don't think like anyone 1458 02:18:52,280 --> 02:19:00,080 should have gotten like a fatal blow to to michael like i could have accepted the like 1459 02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:08,040 allison stabbing him in the stomach but you started you lost me like big time like you 1460 02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:14,760 started you yeah you started losing me big time when um uh karen stabs him in the back 1461 02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:28,880 with that pitchfork i'm like no like no normal like like not even like slightly slight no 1462 02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:38,200 slight superhuman could survive a freaking direct stab by a pitchfork like to the spine 1463 02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:42,560 i mean come on yeah fair enough so that's where i was like a little bit lost and then 1464 02:19:42,560 --> 02:19:52,640 he got like shot multiple times and like again and i'm like you are a 70 year old man 60 1465 02:19:52,640 --> 02:20:01,760 year old man like i'm calling bullshit yeah how does he seem stronger at 60 than he did 1466 02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:08,640 in his 20s yeah that was another thing who uh who the hell did he do this to like one 1467 02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:15,600 of his kills he like lifted up into the air i'm trying to remember which one was it at 1468 02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:22,200 the end i don't think it was at the end i can't remember yeah oh the oh one of the 1469 02:20:22,200 --> 02:20:29,920 firefighters that's right he took a firefighter and lifted him off the the ground with one 1470 02:20:29,920 --> 02:20:34,800 hand well no technically it was two because remember he was holding that uh like pickaxe 1471 02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:43,080 and he stabbed it into him and raised him up above ah that's right okay whatever regardless 1472 02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:49,640 a firefighter in all of his gear hammy when you're as pissed off as michael meyers is 1473 02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:57,080 i i can do anything weight training program did they have at that mental hospital yeah 1474 02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:04,920 right like they're just like here this will help fix your brain working out can i get 1475 02:21:04,920 --> 02:21:10,320 put into smithscrove like your mind is so broken you need to be working out all the 1476 02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:16,480 time like it's almost like he's getting trained by arnold swartzenegger like it was just like 1477 02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:21,800 the way that he like lifted him up in the air i'm like it's super epic kill super epic 1478 02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:28,640 but then you have to like remember oh he's like 60 yeah i mean hey you know sometimes 1479 02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:34,480 people in their 60s are in their prime i know a lot of people in their 60s and no they're 1480 02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:40,480 not i actually know one guy that is in his 60s and like he's very much in his prime like 1481 02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:46,800 he isn't such great shape like in good enough shape to lift up a firefighter in full gear 1482 02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:53,440 okay this guy's a little on the shorter side um so i don't know if he could do that but maybe 1483 02:21:55,680 --> 02:22:02,880 yeah so that one i was just like okay that's a little bit too too superhuman for me like 1484 02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:12,240 above average strength i could have accepted fully accepted yeah um but it's just like that crazy 1485 02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:18,400 superhuman strength that i'm like and the superhuman durability too like when he's getting 1486 02:22:18,400 --> 02:22:25,120 shot multiple times or just getting bushwhacked by all these people getting the direct stab to the 1487 02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:33,280 to the back like he was for talking about that talking about that mob scene did you see that 1488 02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:39,440 one lady that brought a freaking iron to the yeah what the shit was she going to do i mean 1489 02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:48,320 i mean i don't know i guess an iron can do a lot of damage but evil gets straightened out tonight 1490 02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:59,360 all right there we go um yeah so that's honestly why i went as low as i did it's just like that 1491 02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:04,800 extra that's extra superhuman stuff like i could have i could have handled a little bit 1492 02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:10,560 it's just the excessive amount that i'm like that pulled me out that's fair i mean i don't 1493 02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:16,960 know for me like i actually am able to buy all of that stuff because the way that lori explains it 1494 02:23:16,960 --> 02:23:22,960 that how he is he is the essence of evil the more he kills the more he transcends into like i said 1495 02:23:23,600 --> 02:23:32,400 the epitome of evil he is the definition of true evil of pure evil and so i feel that's kind of 1496 02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:36,080 that's the reason why they explain how he can survive through all this shit because evil never 1497 02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:43,120 dies if you're the epitome of evil you never die um so for the most part at least to me i feel they 1498 02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:48,960 back that up decently um so that's why i went so high and i i can believe that michael could 1499 02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:56,640 holy shit massacre and be able to freaking have the human superhuman strength at 60 because 1500 02:23:57,520 --> 02:24:03,680 i mean they must have been feeding him the like the good shit of protein in uh smith's grove yeah 1501 02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:16,720 some freaking miracle crow and and hearty steaks straight up yeah and i think what i liked about 1502 02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:24,000 lor i really liked lori's speech about like not being able to kill um the epitome of evil 1503 02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:30,080 like i really liked that it's just with how much damage he had already taken 1504 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:38,160 that's fair i get that like had like if um 1505 02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:47,200 i'm trying to think stabs to the stabs to the stomach by allison fine whatever like 1506 02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:50,240 you can recover from that like people survive worse 1507 02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:58,640 the it was the stabbed in the back with the pitchfork where you lost me i'm like yeah 1508 02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:04,560 it's understandable i get it and then being able to take on like a whole town for a good little 1509 02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:12,480 while before getting his ass whooped and then being able to get up from their like brutal beatings 1510 02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:20,080 and just massacre all of them i have expected like an audio line just come in and say got you 1511 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:28,800 bitch yeah a little bit like pulls out the knife just gets back yeah like it's just like i probably 1512 02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:35,600 could have accepted the the world-class beating that he got had he just not like had that one 1513 02:25:35,600 --> 02:25:42,240 chick not shot him a bunch of times i'm like okay you're you're dead now otherwise we're getting 1514 02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:49,120 into the superhuman aspect or uh the paranormal aspect of the movie and from what i've been able 1515 02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:56,320 to tell so far they've tried to do away with that yeah so if they just take like a full 1516 02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:04,560 um full look at or not a full look if they um 1517 02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:13,440 if they decide to dot to do like a just a deep dive into the supernatural realm then i'll be 1518 02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:18,560 a little bit more forgiving of this and i would probably even go as far as saying we 1519 02:26:18,560 --> 02:26:25,120 i could go in and change my score okay but since i doubt that that's the route that they're going 1520 02:26:25,120 --> 02:26:37,600 to go and yeah never mind no um not not theory time yet not theory time yet um yeah i think 1521 02:26:39,120 --> 02:26:44,400 i think i'm happy with with my score where it's at right now so it's it's sitting at an 84 1522 02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:52,240 okay that's not bad i like it moving on over to effects uh we're sitting at an 89.5 1523 02:26:53,360 --> 02:27:01,440 and i thought these effects were freaking great yeah they um like the prosthetics were amazing 1524 02:27:01,440 --> 02:27:05,040 and i know caleb wanted to point something out and i think i know what he's gonna point out and 1525 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:13,440 i absolutely agree but caleb yeah um when they did the flashbacks to 1978 1526 02:27:13,440 --> 02:27:20,800 they had like i thought it was like a cgi replication of dr lumis but you informed me 1527 02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:31,440 it wasn't it was all prosthetics yep and holy shit did it look amazing right oh it really did 1528 02:27:31,440 --> 02:27:37,360 look like donald pleasance dude it oh my gosh like you could have told me it was donald pleasance and 1529 02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:43,920 i probably would have believed you yeah right like the only thing that i feel was like maybe 1530 02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:49,520 a little off was the voice but it still worked yeah so someone else i think the reason that the 1531 02:27:49,520 --> 02:28:00,240 voice seemed off um was because they had someone are do the uh yeah they had someone play his body 1532 02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:04,480 and then they did had someone do his voice so sometimes i think the audio just doesn't quite 1533 02:28:04,480 --> 02:28:10,320 line up so it ends up looking weird what's cool though is uh the guy that did the voice for dr 1534 02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:15,520 lumis actually did the same uh voice for him when they did that uh like audio file in halloween 1535 02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:23,360 2018 yeah so that was that was really cool so i i thought he did an amazing job oh yeah um yeah but 1536 02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:31,360 holy shit did that look real right oh they did such a good job i loved it i was so fooled by 1537 02:28:31,360 --> 02:28:38,560 that yeah when like because when i hear like uh when uh hawkins is attending to uh his fellow 1538 02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:44,480 officer and you hear lumis saying uh you know stay back the evil is here i'm like no they're just 1539 02:28:44,480 --> 02:28:49,120 doing like that audio file aren't they and then hawkins goes to the stairwell and you see him like 1540 02:28:49,120 --> 02:28:57,280 pop up in the doorway i'm like no they did not i got so freaking hyped dude and i i was just like 1541 02:28:57,280 --> 02:29:02,000 okay like they're doing this at a distance and then they did a close-up and i'm like aren't you 1542 02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:11,040 shitting me yeah so good like oh my gosh like that alone probably could have scored this movie 100 1543 02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:19,920 oh yeah i absolutely agree it was so yeah but this i think what what docked it for me was um 1544 02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:25,680 maybe just um like just it was some issues that i think most horror movies have is just maybe going 1545 02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:32,160 a little bit overboard on the on the gore um not fair not overboard in a bad way it's just 1546 02:29:33,840 --> 02:29:41,840 overboard just it's almost like just slightly crossing the line of real yeah no no that's fair 1547 02:29:41,840 --> 02:29:48,480 which i feel like you can easily do um i still gave it like a little bit of a little bit of a 1548 02:29:48,480 --> 02:29:51,600 little bit i still gave it like really high i actually gave it higher than you 1549 02:29:54,000 --> 02:30:00,480 um i feel uh another thing to really touch on is the incredible uh work that they did on the mask 1550 02:30:00,480 --> 02:30:08,880 this time because my god the burn effects that they did looked incredible um i loved this mask 1551 02:30:08,880 --> 02:30:17,840 just as much as i love the 2018 mask yep i loved that they were able to replicate how the mask 1552 02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:27,680 originally looked in the 1978 version oh my gosh they did amazing they did so perfect and 1553 02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:35,360 they got everything right like anytime michael was in the light you could see some of his like his 1554 02:30:35,360 --> 02:30:41,920 skin showing and some of his eyes and then they made sure i felt they try to make sure um when 1555 02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:51,040 you were in the uh the present or 2018 whatever you want to call it um in regards to this um 1556 02:30:52,880 --> 02:31:00,480 they tried to i think they tried to make it so you never saw this like his skin it was always 1557 02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:08,640 blackness when you looked at his mask yeah so i i loved that like honestly the only time that i 1558 02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:15,280 think i saw actually his eyes in his mask was when um the mob is starting to surround him and i think 1559 02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:21,120 like they just got like one one i think like one street light or one of the headlights caught his 1560 02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:26,960 mask and you can see his eye but like it's still dark enough to where like it still looks like it's 1561 02:31:26,960 --> 02:31:33,840 the devil's eyes it's the black the it's still the black eyes yeah like almost catching like a bit of 1562 02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:43,920 a glare from his eyeball yeah yeah exactly yeah i easily forgivable oh yeah absolutely 1563 02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:54,160 um but yeah so effects is sitting at an 89.5 hell yeah moving on over to music um we are sitting at 1564 02:31:54,160 --> 02:32:05,280 a nine you bitch i'm just kidding how dare you get john carpenter anything less than a 10 it was an 1565 02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:15,440 amazing an amazing um score like it's it's hard to argue like the score is like absolutely iconic 1566 02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:21,280 it's just i felt like they didn't do anything new with that and i felt like they thought there was um 1567 02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:26,560 i felt like there were times where they just overused the music when they should have tried 1568 02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:33,200 using like working on um with silence a little bit more i think it would have really enhanced 1569 02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:40,960 the scene had they tried to go quiet okay well understandable yeah but i mean a nine freaking 1570 02:32:40,960 --> 02:32:48,080 chill well i'm sorry whenever john carpenter comes back to do the scores for any halloween movies 1571 02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:57,440 to me he gets a 10 yeah you're lucky i didn't dock for that damn um credit song that that played 1572 02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:04,400 yeah okay that song was garbage yeah um well because i never actually like watched the full 1573 02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:09,440 credits so i just didn't even know that that played until i watched it with you i was like 1574 02:33:09,440 --> 02:33:13,840 what the hell is this shit yeah no joke let's just be playing the classic halloween theme here not 1575 02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:22,400 this modern age bullshit yeah it's like they threw some random like poppy halloweeny song 1576 02:33:22,400 --> 02:33:29,280 it just like felt so off tone honestly i think would have like if you didn't want to do the 1577 02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:36,640 halloween theme do the like that song that the uh big john was listening to the ghost and goblins 1578 02:33:36,640 --> 02:33:40,960 will come and gobble you up or some shit like that that would work perfectly that would work 1579 02:33:40,960 --> 02:33:50,320 amazingly um so yeah i think that's why it it scored a nine okay i can i can understand that 1580 02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:58,000 moving on over to costumes we're also giving this one a nine um this is yeah taking place in 1581 02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:05,200 halloween everyone kind of have like a really cool costume on um i thought it was really funny the 1582 02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:11,120 one of the couples from the bar uh they were dressed the wife was dressed as a nurse and the 1583 02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:16,480 husband was dressed like a doctor and their professions he was a a nurse and she was the 1584 02:34:16,480 --> 02:34:22,480 doctor i just love the way won he says i should have guessed 1585 02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:30,400 like it's fun it's all yeah no it's it's very fun um but honestly i think the one that were 1586 02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:37,360 were both going to just like fawn over is michael's costume yeah it's it's perfect 1587 02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:45,360 i mean it was it was perfect in halloween 2018 and it's just as perfect here yeah so so good 1588 02:34:46,320 --> 02:34:55,280 just like uh like you can't beat his iconic look no like it's uh he's one of like the the horror 1589 02:34:55,280 --> 02:35:03,440 icon staples like right there with i wouldn't even say he's like he's i think he's above 1590 02:35:04,400 --> 02:35:10,960 most of them but he's up there with freaking freddy and jason like oh yeah they're so michael's 1591 02:35:10,960 --> 02:35:15,280 number one in my book but yeah i think i definitely think michael 1592 02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:23,680 he has like a very iconic shadow yes there's a reason why he's called the shape yeah i think 1593 02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:31,520 if you were trying to get like super picky i think you could definitely make the argument that jason 1594 02:35:31,520 --> 02:35:38,720 or freddy have a more like distinguished looking uh shadow not sting yeah that's not the right word 1595 02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:46,080 just a more it's easily more easily recognizable okay and it's just because of their like their 1596 02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:52,640 staples like the hockey mask like you can't do like a a jason silhouette and not have the holes 1597 02:35:52,640 --> 02:36:00,000 for the hockey mask that's true um very true and then freddy i mean you got the claws like that's 1598 02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:04,080 just a dead ass giveaway and then you can't do that because of the 1599 02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:05,920 like the 1600 02:36:10,480 --> 02:36:16,800 yeah but i think there's just something about michael and his like crazy stature 1601 02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:25,440 so intimidating and i love it like i want to see how like big michael is 1602 02:36:25,440 --> 02:36:27,440 Can't remember if he's six foot or not. 1603 02:36:28,640 --> 02:36:33,360 Yeah, Michael is six three. 1604 02:36:34,760 --> 02:36:41,840 Now, which is that based off Rob Zombie's or this timeline? This is going based off of 1605 02:36:42,480 --> 02:36:46,040 James Jude Courtney's height. Okay. Okay, perfect. 1606 02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:53,420 Nick Castle who played him in 1978 was a little bit smaller. He was five foot ten. 1607 02:36:53,420 --> 02:36:55,420 Oh, so it's my height. 1608 02:36:56,500 --> 02:36:58,500 Yeah. 1609 02:36:58,980 --> 02:37:07,100 Let's see. Tyler Maine. Honestly, you barely notice I feel. I never noticed. Yeah, Tyler Maine who played Michael in 1610 02:37:08,940 --> 02:37:11,340 2007 was six nine. 1611 02:37:12,620 --> 02:37:17,580 Yeah, he definitely will always, I feel he will always be the tallest Michael Myers. 1612 02:37:17,580 --> 02:37:22,580 Yeah, freaking giant. 1613 02:37:25,700 --> 02:37:29,460 So yeah, I think the established height for him is about 1614 02:37:30,860 --> 02:37:32,860 like 1615 02:37:32,900 --> 02:37:34,900 six three six four. 1616 02:37:35,700 --> 02:37:37,700 Okay, it's not bad. 1617 02:37:39,020 --> 02:37:41,020 Yeah, so I 1618 02:37:41,020 --> 02:37:47,220 I think I do want to point out like costumes wise. I love that they did like a nod to Halloween 3 with the three silver 1619 02:37:47,220 --> 02:37:50,220 shamrock masks, the witch, the skull and the pumpkin. 1620 02:37:51,180 --> 02:37:57,180 I freaking love that. That was a very nice nod. I haven't seen the third one. So I didn't catch that. That's awesome. 1621 02:37:57,180 --> 02:37:59,180 Just know 1622 02:37:59,180 --> 02:38:04,180 Halloween 3 has nothing to do with Michael Myers. Yeah, that's what I've heard. That's why I haven't like tried 1623 02:38:04,180 --> 02:38:11,460 going out of my way to watch it. I actually really like Halloween 3. I feel like it's too much hate. Like as a standalone movie? 1624 02:38:11,980 --> 02:38:17,220 Yeah, it's a very good anthology Halloween movie because that was John Carpenter's original idea. 1625 02:38:17,220 --> 02:38:22,420 He didn't want it to just focus on Michael Myers. He wanted to do other storylines like horror like horror 1626 02:38:22,820 --> 02:38:27,220 storylines for the actual like day of Halloween. Right. 1627 02:38:27,860 --> 02:38:29,860 So, 1628 02:38:29,860 --> 02:38:34,060 so, yeah. 1629 02:38:35,340 --> 02:38:40,660 Hard to argue with that. So, like I said, we're sitting at a nine with costumes. 1630 02:38:43,500 --> 02:38:47,980 All right, last up we're gonna get into our personal grade and I'll give my theory. 1631 02:38:48,340 --> 02:38:54,100 I'll let you like we'll leave out on yours. So I'm gonna give 1632 02:38:54,740 --> 02:38:56,740 this movie an 82. 1633 02:38:56,740 --> 02:39:01,700 I had an absolute blast with this movie and 1634 02:39:02,420 --> 02:39:04,420 it was just so much fun 1635 02:39:05,060 --> 02:39:08,380 to see all the like just the brutality of 1636 02:39:08,900 --> 02:39:10,900 Michael in this. It was just 1637 02:39:12,580 --> 02:39:14,900 it just it made the character scarier. 1638 02:39:15,940 --> 02:39:22,180 Like then he already was like it's just like oh the shape like the boogeyman or whatever and it was just like 1639 02:39:22,180 --> 02:39:27,700 it was just terrifying to see just how insane like he didn't give a shit. 1640 02:39:28,420 --> 02:39:31,140 Like what he did to anyone. It was just 1641 02:39:32,260 --> 02:39:35,220 it was an amazing thing to watch. 1642 02:39:38,020 --> 02:39:40,020 The ending though. 1643 02:39:41,060 --> 02:39:43,060 I know that the 1644 02:39:43,940 --> 02:39:47,940 I'm not sure if we yeah, I'm pretty sure we discussed it at the end. 1645 02:39:47,940 --> 02:39:52,660 Karen goes up to Michael's sister's room and looks out the window. 1646 02:39:54,260 --> 02:39:56,260 And 1647 02:39:56,740 --> 02:39:59,140 then she gets attacked by Michael. 1648 02:40:00,180 --> 02:40:02,980 Supposedly dies. I'm assuming she dies. 1649 02:40:06,500 --> 02:40:10,100 If so I have like a theory 1650 02:40:12,260 --> 02:40:14,260 that maybe 1651 02:40:14,260 --> 02:40:18,260 because it's it did very much seem like the the group 1652 02:40:18,980 --> 02:40:21,620 uh, like the mob got taken off guard. 1653 02:40:23,220 --> 02:40:27,380 Yeah, so my theory is that Karen 1654 02:40:28,660 --> 02:40:30,660 and this is like just 1655 02:40:32,420 --> 02:40:36,500 I'm pretty sure like the actual answer is that Michael just didn't die. 1656 02:40:38,740 --> 02:40:41,460 But if Michael died Michael died. 1657 02:40:41,460 --> 02:40:45,460 Um, but if Michael died my theory is 1658 02:40:46,340 --> 02:40:47,540 that 1659 02:40:47,540 --> 02:40:48,900 Karen 1660 02:40:48,900 --> 02:40:50,900 just somehow snapped 1661 02:40:51,700 --> 02:40:52,820 and 1662 02:40:52,820 --> 02:40:59,620 she like went back to the scene where the mob was and basically just attacked them. 1663 02:41:00,820 --> 02:41:02,900 Maybe took the the Michael mask 1664 02:41:03,860 --> 02:41:05,860 and attacked everyone. 1665 02:41:05,860 --> 02:41:10,580 Because then no one would be suspecting her everyone would have suspected Michael. 1666 02:41:12,180 --> 02:41:15,300 And just been like just chalked it up to oh Michael kill. 1667 02:41:16,820 --> 02:41:22,820 And the reason we saw her in the bedroom looking out the window like she did is because she was just kind of like 1668 02:41:23,380 --> 02:41:25,380 getting in Michael's head a little bit. 1669 02:41:26,500 --> 02:41:32,660 And then that like maybe that was just like the snapping point. And so what what we really saw was 1670 02:41:32,660 --> 02:41:34,660 the Michael in her head. 1671 02:41:36,020 --> 02:41:37,220 Like 1672 02:41:37,220 --> 02:41:39,220 basically killing off 1673 02:41:40,020 --> 02:41:42,340 her or killing her off. 1674 02:41:43,220 --> 02:41:49,140 And so maybe in the next movie she becomes like Michael and then it becomes like a face off between 1675 02:41:50,180 --> 02:41:52,180 Lori and Karen. 1676 02:41:52,980 --> 02:41:55,700 Like I'm probably grasping at straws here. 1677 02:41:56,180 --> 02:41:57,220 But 1678 02:41:57,220 --> 02:42:00,580 I mean no no like it's a very interesting theory the only 1679 02:42:00,580 --> 02:42:06,500 problem I have with it is the whole like mob scene that you say that like it was actually like Karen under the mask because 1680 02:42:06,900 --> 02:42:13,700 I don't know how she would be able to do that when he was the one like he would like they were still surrounding him when he was 1681 02:42:13,940 --> 02:42:15,940 on the floor supposedly dead. 1682 02:42:17,380 --> 02:42:21,860 Right well I'm not I think that maybe we were just seeing it from like 1683 02:42:22,900 --> 02:42:24,900 her mental perspective. 1684 02:42:24,900 --> 02:42:28,260 If okay like her mental perspective is that she 1685 02:42:28,260 --> 02:42:30,260 like became Michael. 1686 02:42:30,500 --> 02:42:36,820 Okay, and so like what we were seeing was Karen attacking everyone but in her mind like kind of from her 1687 02:42:37,860 --> 02:42:42,820 her point of view or what her point of view would have been had it been like this like had 1688 02:42:43,540 --> 02:42:45,540 there been like a mental 1689 02:42:45,540 --> 02:42:47,940 aspect of Michael inside of her. 1690 02:42:49,300 --> 02:42:51,300 Okay, that's like just 1691 02:42:52,340 --> 02:42:54,340 another like grasping at straws. 1692 02:42:54,340 --> 02:42:59,460 No, I mean it's not a bad theory. Yeah, that's just like if Michael's dead. I'm a yeah 1693 02:42:59,700 --> 02:43:02,020 if you were to tell me okay like 1694 02:43:02,420 --> 02:43:06,260 put money down on what you think it actually is I think Michael is actually just alive. 1695 02:43:06,900 --> 02:43:14,820 Yeah, I would probably I I would agree but no like I actually really like that theory. I think it's a good theory. Yeah, like there's 1696 02:43:16,100 --> 02:43:18,420 I'm trying to think of like another movie where it 1697 02:43:19,380 --> 02:43:21,380 like it does this. 1698 02:43:21,380 --> 02:43:29,220 But it's just like oh this entire time we think it's it's Michael, but it's actually Karen. 1699 02:43:30,500 --> 02:43:34,260 Like and Karen just snapped or something because like 1700 02:43:35,060 --> 02:43:40,900 the way that they explained what happened to Michael they're just like no one knows why he does what he does like he just snapped. 1701 02:43:41,540 --> 02:43:42,980 Yeah. 1702 02:43:42,980 --> 02:43:48,260 And so it's just like no one knows why he kills. No one knows why he does this like and like 1703 02:43:48,260 --> 02:43:51,460 what's-his-face Hawkins said. Like he's just a 1704 02:43:52,100 --> 02:43:55,780 six-year-old kid like stuck in a man's body. 1705 02:43:57,380 --> 02:43:58,340 Yep. 1706 02:43:58,340 --> 02:44:00,340 So I think that's like 1707 02:44:01,220 --> 02:44:04,180 I don't know just with like all the trauma that she 1708 02:44:04,740 --> 02:44:08,740 that Karen suffered and like with losing her husband 1709 02:44:09,540 --> 02:44:12,740 almost losing her daughter and just like all of that 1710 02:44:13,700 --> 02:44:15,700 traumatic 1711 02:44:15,700 --> 02:44:21,300 stuff going on like it wouldn't be a hard stretch to say that she snapped. 1712 02:44:22,660 --> 02:44:24,180 No, that's 1713 02:44:24,180 --> 02:44:26,660 it's fair. No, I get it. 1714 02:44:26,660 --> 02:44:32,260 Yeah, and then like if you wanted to and like in the next movie where Halloween ends, which 1715 02:44:32,740 --> 02:44:39,060 you said takes place four years after or is supposed to take place four years after? Yeah, I think um 1716 02:44:40,020 --> 02:44:42,740 David Gordon Green said there's gonna be a four-year time jump. 1717 02:44:42,740 --> 02:44:46,500 Okay, I mean that would give enough time for 1718 02:44:47,860 --> 02:44:52,900 either Karen or Mike that would give Michael time enough to heal. 1719 02:44:54,340 --> 02:44:56,340 I feel um 1720 02:44:56,820 --> 02:44:58,820 it would give 1721 02:44:59,460 --> 02:45:01,460 Lori enough time to heal 1722 02:45:02,820 --> 02:45:05,860 Allison too because she ended up breaking 1723 02:45:06,900 --> 02:45:08,900 Was it both her legs or just one? 1724 02:45:08,900 --> 02:45:14,020 I think it was just one. Okay. Yeah, so it would give her enough time to heal from that. 1725 02:45:15,700 --> 02:45:17,700 So yeah 1726 02:45:17,700 --> 02:45:19,700 that's that's my 1727 02:45:19,940 --> 02:45:25,620 my two cents about it like what I think but overall great movie an amazing sequel. 1728 02:45:26,660 --> 02:45:31,540 Yeah, only thing that I have to complain about is I wish that I would have watched 1729 02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:34,100 Halloween 2018 before 1730 02:45:34,100 --> 02:45:43,060 I watched this. That's fair. And then maybe just done like a quick recap of 1978's. Yeah. 1731 02:45:44,420 --> 02:45:46,420 Okay. Fair. 1732 02:45:48,420 --> 02:45:54,260 With me, this was one of my most hyped movies of the year behind 1733 02:45:54,260 --> 02:45:58,980 or it was either behind or ahead of Ghostbusters Afterlife probably at the same level. 1734 02:45:58,980 --> 02:46:03,540 It did not disappoint. I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. 1735 02:46:04,260 --> 02:46:09,700 It was a very good sequel to Halloween 2018. Michael Myers was as brutal as ever. 1736 02:46:10,180 --> 02:46:17,300 I loved that they brought back so many characters from the original and they gave them actually very good story arcs in my opinion. 1737 02:46:18,180 --> 02:46:20,180 So I'm gonna go an 85. 1738 02:46:21,700 --> 02:46:23,700 Alrighty that averages us out. 1739 02:46:23,700 --> 02:46:28,420 To an 83.5. Okay. Well done. 1740 02:46:29,140 --> 02:46:31,140 All right, and that concludes 1741 02:46:31,620 --> 02:46:37,940 this week's breakdown. So the final score for Halloween Kills has come to a 1742 02:46:41,220 --> 02:46:42,180 a B. 1743 02:46:42,900 --> 02:46:44,900 Hell yeah, I like it. 1744 02:46:45,620 --> 02:46:47,620 Yeah, it's um 1745 02:46:47,620 --> 02:46:52,900 definitely a more solid B. It's sitting at an 85.68%. 1746 02:46:53,380 --> 02:46:55,380 I like it. 1747 02:46:55,940 --> 02:46:58,900 Yeah, so let's see comparing this to 1748 02:47:00,740 --> 02:47:02,740 other B movies. Ooh. 1749 02:47:04,340 --> 02:47:08,580 This is this is close. This is actually taking our number two spot. 1750 02:47:09,780 --> 02:47:14,820 Really? Yeah, and in the movie, it's actually taking our number two spot. 1751 02:47:14,820 --> 02:47:21,700 Really? Yeah, in in B movies. So we have 22 B movies and this is ranked number two. 1752 02:47:22,500 --> 02:47:25,380 Hell yeah, what's number one? The Force Awakens. 1753 02:47:26,180 --> 02:47:27,380 Okay. 1754 02:47:27,780 --> 02:47:29,780 Hell yeah, sweet. 1755 02:47:30,820 --> 02:47:36,740 Yeah, so Halloween Kills is sitting at an 85.68%. 1756 02:47:37,620 --> 02:47:41,540 Everything I'm about to list off are some other B movies. 1757 02:47:41,540 --> 02:47:44,980 So Halloween Kills is above, 1758 02:47:45,700 --> 02:47:47,060 onward. 1759 02:47:47,060 --> 02:47:49,540 Ooh, and the margins are very close. 1760 02:47:50,660 --> 02:47:56,260 So like I said, Halloween Kills is at 85.68%. Onward is at 85.67%. 1761 02:47:57,860 --> 02:47:59,860 Damn. It is 1762 02:48:00,580 --> 02:48:03,700 a hundredth of a percentage off. 1763 02:48:04,820 --> 02:48:06,260 That's insane. 1764 02:48:06,260 --> 02:48:08,260 That is wild. 1765 02:48:08,260 --> 02:48:13,780 Next it's above Cruella, which was sitting at an 85.56%. 1766 02:48:16,900 --> 02:48:21,860 Then Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, which is sitting at an 85.43%. 1767 02:48:24,260 --> 02:48:27,620 Then The Lion King, which is sitting at an 85.1%. 1768 02:48:28,900 --> 02:48:32,900 And finally, it's above The Oath, which is sitting at an 85. 1769 02:48:32,900 --> 02:48:39,860 Okay, and then like I said, it's sitting below The Force Awakens, which was at an 85.8%. 1770 02:48:41,220 --> 02:48:43,620 So it's a 0.2% difference. 1771 02:48:44,500 --> 02:48:46,500 Hell yeah. 1772 02:48:46,500 --> 02:48:49,940 But the margins are like super close. 1773 02:48:49,940 --> 02:48:51,940 Damn, that's awesome. 1774 02:48:52,580 --> 02:48:55,060 Yeah, not even funny how close they were. 1775 02:48:57,060 --> 02:48:58,740 So, 1776 02:48:58,740 --> 02:49:03,940 let's see. I want to see where it's like ranked overall. 1777 02:49:05,540 --> 02:49:07,540 So it is sitting 1778 02:49:08,420 --> 02:49:10,420 at 62 1779 02:49:11,860 --> 02:49:13,860 of 1780 02:49:15,060 --> 02:49:17,060 148. 1781 02:49:17,380 --> 02:49:21,620 It's not bad. Yeah, it's still top 100. 1782 02:49:22,180 --> 02:49:24,180 Yeah. 1783 02:49:24,180 --> 02:49:28,900 So definitely not bad. Yeah, not too shabby at all. 1784 02:49:32,100 --> 02:49:34,900 Do you have anything else you want to say about Halloween kills? 1785 02:49:36,100 --> 02:49:38,420 Nope. Definitely go check it out. 1786 02:49:38,420 --> 02:49:45,220 I think it is definitely worth trying to get the Peacock free trial or whatever the hell you need to use to watch it. 1787 02:49:45,220 --> 02:49:47,220 Yeah. 1788 02:49:48,260 --> 02:49:50,260 Well, 1789 02:49:50,260 --> 02:49:55,860 if you like what you hear and want to hear more from us, be sure to follow and subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 1790 02:49:56,580 --> 02:50:01,460 As far as we know, we are damn near everywhere, even though we switched to Podbean recently. 1791 02:50:02,100 --> 02:50:05,060 But you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, 1792 02:50:05,700 --> 02:50:10,260 Stitcher, IR Radio, Radio Public, Radio.com, Spotify, and more. 1793 02:50:11,060 --> 02:50:16,180 You can also catch all of our episodes on YouTube if you prefer to listen to them. 1794 02:50:16,180 --> 02:50:21,220 You can follow us on our social media, where you can answer our questions of the week. 1795 02:50:21,220 --> 02:50:29,940 You can DM us with any episode ideas you have, or you can just check out some random stuff that we occasionally post on those sites. 1796 02:50:31,460 --> 02:50:33,460 And if you want to do that, 1797 02:50:33,460 --> 02:50:38,100 that is facebook.com forward slash thealbros, twitter and instagram at thealbros, 1798 02:50:38,660 --> 02:50:42,660 or also you could email us if you would prefer to follow us on social media. 1799 02:50:42,660 --> 02:50:47,460 And you can shoot us an email at thealbroschannel at gmail.com. 1800 02:50:47,460 --> 02:50:51,940 If you want to check out our website, it is tinyurl.com forward slash thealbros, 1801 02:50:53,140 --> 02:51:00,020 where we have a link set up to where it's a lot easier for you to buy merch rather than go. 1802 02:51:00,020 --> 02:51:05,380 I mean, you can still go to Tpublic. It's tpublic.com forward slash user forward slash thealbros channel. 1803 02:51:05,380 --> 02:51:14,980 But with our website, you can actually make it to where you can get any kind of shirt that you want from our previous episode arts that Caleb does. 1804 02:51:14,980 --> 02:51:21,700 Because this way, you know that our design hasn't been taken down thanks to studios being assholes. 1805 02:51:22,660 --> 02:51:24,660 Oh my gosh, they piss me off so much. 1806 02:51:26,660 --> 02:51:28,660 Um, I don't know. 1807 02:51:28,660 --> 02:51:30,660 I don't know. 1808 02:51:30,660 --> 02:51:32,660 I don't know. 1809 02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:39,620 Um, but yeah, so that's how you can, uh, well, I mean, also you can learn more about us that way. 1810 02:51:39,620 --> 02:51:43,620 But that is honestly the best way to buy some merch if you would like to. 1811 02:51:44,500 --> 02:51:50,260 Um, but yeah, uh, next week on the All Bros podcast, it is kind of up in the air. 1812 02:51:50,260 --> 02:51:58,980 Um, we have some things that we like, we have a special guest that could be coming on either next week or the week after. 1813 02:51:58,980 --> 02:52:00,980 But we just don't know. We'll see what happens. 1814 02:52:00,980 --> 02:52:06,980 Um, so next week is going to be a total surprise for not only you, but us probably as well. 1815 02:52:06,980 --> 02:52:12,980 Um, yeah, um, it's gonna be, it's honestly between one of two movies. 1816 02:52:12,980 --> 02:52:18,980 Yeah, like it's either gonna be No Time to Die or it's gonna be Dune. 1817 02:52:18,980 --> 02:52:20,980 Yeah. 1818 02:52:20,980 --> 02:52:24,980 So, um, either, you can look forward to us breaking down either one of those next week. 1819 02:52:24,980 --> 02:52:30,980 Um, but until then, this has been the All Bros, the, the, the All Bros podcast. 1820 02:52:30,980 --> 02:52:32,980 I am Jonathan. 1821 02:52:32,980 --> 02:52:34,980 And I'm Caleb. 1822 02:52:34,980 --> 02:52:36,980 And we will see you guys next week. 1823 02:52:36,980 --> 02:52:38,980 So long. 1824 02:52:38,980 --> 02:52:40,980 God, that was bad. 1825 02:52:40,980 --> 02:52:42,980 You didn't even try. 1826 02:52:42,980 --> 02:52:44,980 Shut up. 1827 02:52:44,980 --> 02:52:46,980 Just say you're deuces, bitch. 1828 02:52:48,980 --> 02:52:50,980 Well, now I don't want to. 1829 02:52:50,980 --> 02:52:54,980 That's what I thought. 1830 02:52:54,980 --> 02:53:22,980 You're deuces.