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What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast, I am Jonathan.

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And I am Caleb.

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And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but

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also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.

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This week on the podcast we'll be skipping over Funko Focus and 4K Spotlight.

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Nothing caught our eye with Funko and 4K is really just a bunch of re-releases.

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If you guys really want to know, it's the Outsiders and the Addams Family both coming

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to 4K.

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Well sorry, the 1990 live action Addams Family movie.

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So yeah, so we'll be skipping over those two and then we'll be just straight up jumping

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into Through the Wall which will be covering a trailer.

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I think it's, I've heard it's the second trailer but I've also heard it's a TV spot so I don't

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know.

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Technically we'll just be covering two TV spots of a show coming out as well as a trailer

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for a movie coming out next month.

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Or when does this movie come out?

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That is an excellent question.

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I have no idea.

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I hope we get an excellent answer.

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Yeah, it is coming out January 28th, 2022.

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Okay so it doesn't come out until next year but anyway.

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So we'll be talking about those and then we'll be jumping into our headliner of the evening

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which will be our breakdown of M. Night Shyamalan's movie, Old.

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Hell yeah.

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So yeah, what do you say we get started Caleb?

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Say let's do it.

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Hey guys, I'm Crash, host of the podcast Crash & Tez's movie seller.

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See you guys then.

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Alright so I just want to point something out really quickly.

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You can put podcasts on Amazon Music?

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Yeah, we're on Amazon.

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Oh we are?

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Oh, I never do that.

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Yeah, if you have an Alexa or something like that you can say Alexa like turn on the All

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Bros podcast.

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That's so bitchin'.

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How did I not know this?

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I don't know if it still currently works because we switched over to Podbean but last time

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I checked we were still on Amazon Music so it should work.

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Dope.

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That's pretty freaking cool.

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Not gonna lie.

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Yeah right?

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Anyway moving into our Through the Walls segment because like I said we're skipping over Funko

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Focus and 4K Spotlight.

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We got two TV spots, I'm gonna stick with calling them two TV spots, for Hawkeye to

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talk about.

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And oh my god I'm so hyped for this fucking show.

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I still can't believe that my favorite superhero is finally getting his moment in the spotlight.

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I know right?

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Finally his own TV show.

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How much?

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I'm assuming with like how much screen time he's gonna get.

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He's gonna be like the main focus of this show and maybe like share it a little bit

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with Kate but will he be...

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I wanna know how much extra screen time those additional like six hours are going to give

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him in like the whole of like the MCU.

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Like that will put him above Hulk for sure.

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That's true.

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If he's not already above Hulk.

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I'm willing to bet it put him above Widow too.

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Yeah shit I didn't think about that.

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I wanna see.

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I'm gonna see if someone has a chart of...

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I'm pretty sure people have done that.

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I've seen it before.

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Alright let's see here.

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That'll be cool if it wasn't super freaking tiny.

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Okay I'm not sure where this chart is like accurate on like putting him like to what

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movie it's like it's updated to but it has Tony Stark at four hours and 55 minutes.

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So maybe that's like on screen time.

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Yeah okay that makes sense.

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But Hawkeye or so yeah Hawkeye is at 33 minutes total.

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That's it?

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Yeah like I said that's what they have him at.

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So that's 33 minutes total so plus those six hours that puts him well above Iron Man.

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to be on screen.

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So it probably put him in line with like at least Captain America.

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I think so because honestly I feel that they're probably going to like evenly split it between

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Clint and Kate and I'm totally okay with that.

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But holy shit I didn't know Tony Stark had that much.

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I mean it makes sense he is you know freaking RDJ.

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So with these trailers you don't really get a lot.

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I have a couple that I want to point out with.

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The one opening for one of them is freaking Kate in a freaking elevator talking to this

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elderly woman and she's just like can I tell you a secret?

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I'm working with an Avenger.

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And then like honestly that would be like a really good prelude into the next TV spot

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because the next one has I'm assuming I'm assuming this is Kate's mom.

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I think her name is Eleanor Bishop.

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Yeah that sounds about right.

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So she's talking to both Kate and Clint and she's just like so Kate's helping you with

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an Avengers level threat and Kate's just like yeah he's my partner and Clint's just like

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yeah that's kind of a stretch.

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like some extra added stuff like Clint points out you know if you want to be a superhero

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there's a lot of stuff involved especially a lot with danger and she's just like yeah

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but you get like cool costumes and you know trick arrows and I'm just like you know what

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she's got a point.

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And one of the coolest freaking shots is when I'm assuming Clint's driving and they're on

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a freeway and freaking Kate is trying to freaking nail one of the one of the guys in this one

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car and she's just like kind of like struggling a little bit just to get it perfect her arrow

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perfectly aligned it's just such a cool shot.

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And then there's one where they both freaking like swing down from a building and like fall

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over a freaking train.

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No not wait no not fall over a train.

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Kind of like they graze over it?

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Yeah that sounds about right.

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Okay it just like you see you don't really get like a lot of new story details but you

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get such really cool that I feel they were definitely worth talking about.

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It just gets you more hyped for this show and the fact that we're getting the first

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two episodes on November 24th is amazing.

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And I like it absolutely makes sense when you see when the final episode is supposed

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to premiere I think it's like December 22nd so if they were to have just released one

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episode each week it wouldn't have finished till the 29th and that kind of wouldn't have

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made sense considering that this is you know based around Christmas time.

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So all I can say is I'm so freaking stoked for the show it just needs to be here already.

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Oh my gosh it looks like it's so much freaking fun.

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Like you know ever since the MCU entered the show territory on Disney Plus WandaVision

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has still been my favorite.

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I loved WandaVision but I think Hawkeye might take the spot.

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We both know it's going to whether it's like a shitty show or not.

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You know what fair enough yeah it's definitely going to take the spot because as

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everyone knows I'm a Hawkeye whore and anything Hawkeye I'm going to watch till I can't watch

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it no more.

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I have a feeling I'm going to be watching these first two episodes until the next week

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like five times each just to catch every single little detail that I can.

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That's how I'm going to be with the show because the fact that they're basing this on Matt

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Fraction's comic which I unfortunately haven't finished I need to finish it because I've

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heard it's such an amazing Hawkeye story.

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So I really just need to sit down and finish that damn thing.

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But just the fact that they're the baseline of the show is based around that they're kind

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of adding their like couple new things to it.

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I just feel that the show is going to be very special and I just can't wait for it to premiere

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can November 24th be here already gosh damn it.

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Yeah dude I am so freaking pumped.

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It's going to be so good.

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It's going to be so good.

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Like all the I don't think that there's been a miss yet when it comes to the these shows.

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No I would definitely agree there has been some that I'm just like okay you know like

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I didn't like it as much as the last one but I haven't hated any of the MCU shows so far.

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Yeah same here.

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I think the biggest one for me that was like I wouldn't consider it like a total miss but

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that I wouldn't put on the same level as everyone else would be the what if and I loved the

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what if series so much but I can absolutely agree with you.

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I would have almost preferred individual stories rather than one overarching.

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Yeah that's honestly I did not see that coming at all with that ending that how the watcher

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was just going to take a bunch of these Marvel characters from these different realities

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and make them the defenders of the universe.

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Or the what do they call them the guardians of the multiverse.

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That's what it was sorry.

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I couldn't remember if he said the defenders of the guardians because I know it wasn't

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the Avengers.

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Yeah but I'm hoping for good things.

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I think one you've got a killer storyline to follow and on top of that you got killer

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actors like you're going to have to try really hard to screw this up.

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Seriously like ever since the first Avengers as the MCU has gone along Jeremy Renner has

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been able to showcase how he can do the sarcasm when it comes to Clint Barton because we all

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know Clint Barton is a sarcastic asshole but that's why we love him.

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And so I think that this show is going to be able to really let him push his comedic

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chops and like fully showcase how he was perfectly picked to play Clint Barton slash Hawkeye.

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I mean we all know he was but I feel at least I know he is.

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But I think this show is going to be able to really showcase that he was and Haley Steinfeld

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has shown how great she is with comedy The Edge of Seventeen has become one of my favorite

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films I've ever seen.

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Yeah that show is such a good movie if you guys haven't seen it we highly recommend that

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one.

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See it is one of the best coming of age stories in my opinion.

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Yeah but I'm assuming you're at a 10 with this like I don't think that's any question.

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No not one bit.

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Yeah I'm about a 9.

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You son of a bitch.

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No I'm not.

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I'm kidding I'm kidding bro I'm kidding.

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Yeah I'm sitting about a 9 just to be a contrarian I guess.

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I freaking knew it.

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No I'm really excited for this for this series.

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I don't know what's what's got me I think it's with just these like the TV spot or whatever

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it's just I don't know like I feel like it's just giving away stuff in the show.

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Like I'm hoping a lot of the stuff that we see in the show is this is in those first

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couple episodes because I don't want to know where this story ends or where it's going

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at all like I want to be surprised when I go into it.

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Same.

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So yeah I'm sitting about a 9.

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Okay I like it.

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I'll deal with it.

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I'll accept it.

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I said oh my gosh sorry I forgot that I was leading this episode.

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Yeah I'm just like all right let's do it.

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Come on Rose.

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Yeah all right job.

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All right moving on to our second Through the Wall bit we got the second trailer for

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Morbius which will be coming in January.

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So I will fully admit I know absolutely I think I already admitted this with the first

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trailer I know jack shit about Morbius.

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Same here.

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Oh okay cool.

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So okay that's not necessarily true.

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The only things that I know about Morbius come from the 90s Spider-Man show.

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See I don't even remember Morbius from the 90s show.

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It's because he was a lot different.

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He did have that same look like really long black hair kind of had that vampiric look

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about him but instead of him being obsessed with blood and being like that kind of like

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vampire he wanted plasma and instead of biting people he would absorb the plasma through

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their hands or through his hands.

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That's Morbius from the 90s show okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah now I remember him.

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So that's like I'm assuming it's a completely inaccurate representation because Morbius

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is like how they're representing him in this show where it's more like vampiric and he

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wants blood.

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Yeah they probably didn't want to put that in a like rated G kids show.

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Yeah.

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Well no that show kind of got dark sometimes.

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Dude it didn't apparently and I I had like a really hard time believing this apparently

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throughout the entire 90s Spider-Man show Spider-Man never threw a punch at anyone.

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What the what?

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Yeah apparently they did not want to promote violence that way so Spider-Man never punched

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people.

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And I was like no that's bullshit like I remember him punching people like left and right and

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yeah apparently he didn't.

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So he literally just fought with his webbing that's it.

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Yeah with his webbing and I think he would like swing and kick people which might have

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yeah which I'm like seriously.

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That's a double standard so kicking is okay but punching is not okay.

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Yeah so I'm like that's that's let me just.

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Fuck this shit.

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Whoops.

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Technical malfunctioning here on the Albrows.

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Yeah so I have fast keys for the for the soundboard and I forgot I wasn't supposed to yeah they

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said 90s Spider-Man was wasn't allowed to punch people.

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That's so dumb.

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Yeah that is like ridiculously dumb.

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So yeah never threw a punch.

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Okay well you know what that gives me an excuse to go watch that show again.

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So yeah I know right just to be like hey like you missed one.

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Oh man.

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God that's so crazy.

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Okay well anyway Morbius trailer number two.

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Yeah.

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Thoughts.

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I have a lot of thoughts.

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This is a very very interesting trailer with the things that they mix in and like they're

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combining.

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Like I think this comes out right after Spider-Man into the or I almost said into the multiverse.

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So dumb.

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They honestly could have called that.

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I know right.

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This comes out like just like one month after No Way Home does.

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No Way Home is as we know is going to introduce the multiverse and possibly merge universes

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and that's what I think we're getting here because Morbius and like in reference to this

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he knows Vulture from Spider-Man Homecoming because Michael Keaton's in this.

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So freaking cool.

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I love that.

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So we have that Tom Holland Spider-Man tie-in.

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He is walking through an alley and we see Sam Raimi's Spider-Man poster with like murder

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like written over it in like graffiti.

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So we know that there's like some sort of tie to the Raimi universe or whether that

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be fan art or whatever but I'm assuming like it was it's straight up the Sam Raimi Spider-Man

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like it was so clear as day like there's no mistaking it.

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Like oh that could be Tom Holland.

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No like it is absolutely not Tom Holland.

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Yeah no.

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So there's that tie-in and then we also get a tie-in at the end when someone's like who

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are you and he's like I'm Venom and then he's like I'm just kidding I'm Morbius and I'm

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like okay so he knows who Venom is too.

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Yeah so freaking three universes what the shit.

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Yeah there's three universes so I'm like these universes are getting combined.

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Like that's my ultimate theory.

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They're getting combined and yeah or something like they're getting like mixed together or

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something like that because there's no way.

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There's no way that they're going to be like I don't know I don't know how they would address

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it if they didn't do that.

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I feel like it's going to be like a play-doh situation where you're just kind of mixing

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everything together and you just can't quite get all the bits and pieces out.

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Oh yeah dude don't remind me of that shit.

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But that's just a kid.

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That's my theory.

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I think there's just going to be a perfect mixture of everything.

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And so we're going to get oh like I think that the MCU is getting to a point where they're

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like oh we want to pick and choose some like oh we want some of this from this universe.

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We want some of that from that universe and I think that's what they're doing.

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Like I think they're nitpicking and being like alright everything else can go like away.

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Like we want Venom.

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We want Morbius.

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We want Sam Raimi's Spider-Man.

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Everything just like that costume design idea.

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Like we want those and everything else can go away.

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Sorry Andrew Garfield.

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Yeah right.

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I feel like that's super shitty.

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But yeah I found it very interesting that he's a doctor suffering from this.

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He did say it's incurable right?

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But then.

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Yeah it's like sickle cell something.

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Yeah but then he goes to try to like he goes I don't can't remember where he goes to try

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to find a cure for it.

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And doing so because there's a lot of people other people suffering from it besides himself.

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He goes to god where the hell does he go?

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Do you remember?

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Basically the Batcave.

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There we go yeah.

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And doing this and finding the cure or at least the so called cure that is how he becomes

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Morbius.

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Yeah so he goes and gets like bushwhacked by some vampire bats.

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Like that's where he thinks that the cure lies is within vampire bats.

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And doing something to the vampire bats and getting them to like absorb the blood or whatever

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I don't know the exact science of it all but I'm assuming that's what he thinks it happens

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and so he goes gets bit and then like just slowly starts becoming more and more vampiric.

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But it does like heal him but it also the fix is temporary if he doesn't feed on people.

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And so he's like trying to control this monster inside him and only attack those that deserve

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it and kind of becomes an anti-hero.

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Yeah and honestly I'm always a fan of anti-heroes so I will absolutely take that story.

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Yeah I feel like that's a very popular thing right now like anti-heroes.

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It honestly is and I mean do you feel it's been overdone at all?

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Honestly I love that I love it when superheroes like blur that line between good and evil.

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So I'm personally a really big fan of that.

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Like my favorite heroes a lot of my top favorite heroes are considered anti-heroes.

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Like Hulk is technically considered an anti-hero in most instances.

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There's some where he has like a little bit more control over himself and then that is

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where he becomes like more of a hero.

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But some of my favorite instances is ones where he's considered the anti-hero.

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Like the immortal Hulk storyline he's not really considered a hero.

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And yeah so like just a bunch of other storylines like that.

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So I really like him, I really like Punisher.

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Punisher is definitely considered an anti-hero.

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Oh yeah definitely.

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Ghost Rider same thing with him.

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They're ultimately like they're doing things to bad guys but they're doing it in such a

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brutal way that it's considered like almost villainous.

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So it's like most heroes like Captain America isn't going to give his thumbs up on the way

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that they handle it.

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But I think like ultimately he's going to be like okay well I'm not going to come after

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you either because it's technically a bad guy.

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So I love when they blur those lines and then I think they're doing the same thing with

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Venom kind of making him more of an anti-hero.

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But I wouldn't even consider him like an anti-hero.

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It's kind of like an anti-villain.

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No that is very true.

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That is very true.

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Yeah like I think if there was like a scale of good and bad Venom's like or most anti-heroes

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are in the middle leaning more towards good.

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Venom's in the middle leaning more towards bad.

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Yeah.

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I think that's probably why I love him the most.

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I know it's just something different.

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Like I love when they show it's just those little things of being different.

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So I'm all for it.

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Bring on the anti-heroes.

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And I would even be on the team of making the superheroes like the goody two shoes like

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Spider-Man or Captain America or Iron Man making the heroes like that the protagonists

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or the antagonists.

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That would actually be a very cool idea.

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Yeah just seeing how anti-heroes people who don't want to do bad things but want to be

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like as brutal.

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I would love to see Punisher take on like Captain America where Captain America is the

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antagonist.

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Where Punisher is trying to do something and Captain America just keeps getting in his

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way and then it leads to like an ultimate brawl between the two.

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And then seeing what they could do with blurring the lines with Captain America.

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I think that would be so cool.

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Like such an interesting story.

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Yeah I can definitely agree with that.

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Because I think like completely evil villains are boring, completely good heroes can be

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boring.

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It's always like somewhere in the middle.

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That's where like my interest lies.

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No no I can absolutely agree with you there.

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And then like also with um I'm trying to think like other heroes like Nightcrawler is also

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one of my favorites and Daredevil those heroes that are struggling with their own morals

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or religious beliefs too.

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Like I love those storylines too.

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They're just like okay I'm doing this I'm doing this thing that's technically a sin

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but I'm doing it to bad people so like where on this line of morality am I?

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Like I love that shit so much.

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And so I think that's like with Morbius he's not a bad guy.

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Like he's an anti-hero.

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He's leaning more towards good or trying to.

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But it's this control of this hunger that he has.

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So it's kind of going to be the same issue that Venom has.

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He's just like can I eat this guy?

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No.

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Yeah.

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It's true.

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So I'm completely down for this.

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I'm super pumped.

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Yeah I mean I wouldn't say I'm still very very interested in this movie.

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One out of ten where are you sitting at?

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Let's say I'm probably like at a seven.

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That's fair.

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I'm up at like an eight.

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Not much higher than you but just a little bit.

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All right.

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Nice.

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But hell yeah.

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So good trailer.

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Oh yeah.

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Definitely one we're adding to our breakdown list.

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Oh yeah.

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Definitely.

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Well unless you have anything else you want to talk about with Morbius?

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No I think I'm good.

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All right cool.

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Well then let's jump into our headliner.

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What do you say?

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Hell yeah.

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All right.

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So this week on our Albrows headliner we'll be breaking down M. Night Shyamalan's newest

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movie, Old.

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So Caleb do you want to tell everybody how we break down movies on this podcast?

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Hell yeah.

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So if you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different

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categories that we individually grade to come to a final Albrows letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, but

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with this being a suspense slash thriller movie we're actually going to follow the rules

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that we set in place for horror and make this like logic.

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And just like did this movie follow the rules that they set in place?

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And then we have effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade

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at the very end.

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So with that Rose is about to spoil the entire damn movie for you so if you have not seen

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Old, definitely go give it a watch.

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It's definitely worth watching.

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It's definitely at least in my opinion one of Shyamalan's better films.

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Yeah and we'll get into how this movie is I guess.

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Because it's an interesting one.

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It is definitely an interesting one.

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It's no last airbender we will tell you that right now.

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Yeah it's not like complete and utter shit.

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Yeah it's not that bad Shyamalan.

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Alright so, married couple Guy and Prisca Kappa are going through a divorce.

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To avoid saddening their young children Maddox and Trent, the couple takes them on a tropical

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resort as a final family vacation.

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At the hotel they are staying in, Guy and Prisca, is that how you say her name?

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I would say Prisca?

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Prisca, okay.

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So Prisca are given complimentary drinks and the children befriend the resort manager's

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nephew Idlib?

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Is that how they say that?

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Idlib.

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Okay.

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At night, Maddox and Trent overhear their parents arguing and begin playing a message

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decoding game with Idlib.

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The following morning the manager invites the family to a secluded beach where three

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additional parties are present.

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Rapper Mid-Sized Sedan and a female companion, surgeon Charles, his wife Crystal, their young

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daughter Kara, and Charles' mother Agnes, and Jiren and Patricia Carmichael, a close

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knit husband and wife.

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Playing hide and seek, Trent discovers the dead body of Mid-Sized Sedan's companion.

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Charles grows suspicious of Mid-Sized Sedan, who reveals that he has been experiencing

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nosebleeds because of his affliction with...

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Wow.

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Mephilia?

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Hey, Mephilia.

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I don't even know how the hell to say that word.

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It's really sad.

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After Agnes suddenly dies, the three families group together and conclude that the beach

480
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,840
is rapidly aging them, with the occupants undergoing the equivalent of a year of aging

481
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,600
every 30 minutes.

482
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,800
They discover that at least one member of each family has an underlying medical condition

483
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,400
and that trying to leave will result in them blacking out.

484
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,840
In a fit of rage, Charles cuts Mid-Sized Sedan with a switchblade and the group watches as

485
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,160
his injury quickly heals.

486
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:17,080
After Prisca develops a stomach tumor, Charles performs a successful surgery to remove it.

487
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,520
Soon after, Mid-Sized Sedan discovers that the body of his companion has decomposed in

488
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,760
a matter of hours.

489
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160
All three children have now aged into adulthood.

490
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,440
A bond between the maturing Kara and Trent leads to Kara rapidly giving birth, only for

491
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,520
the baby to quickly die from the beach's effects.

492
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,320
Amid the group struggling to escape the beach, Trent and Maddox discover the notebook of

493
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,400
a previous traveler along with indications of them being watched.

494
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:52,120
The attempts to leave grow tenser when Charles and Prisca are in a state of shock and are

495
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,280
killed by Mid-Sized Sedan.

496
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,960
While Jaren drowns and Kara falls to her death as they look for a way off, Patricia suffers

497
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:08,040
a fatal epileptic seizure and Crystal's hypoglycemia results in her bones rupturing, killing her.

498
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,360
Charles eventually attacks Guy at night and in a schizophrenic episode, but Prisca slashes

499
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,320
him with a rusted knife, instigating a fatal blood infection that kills him in seconds.

500
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,600
As the night winds down, an elderly Guy and Prisca make amends before dying moments apart

501
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,520
from each other.

502
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:31,000
With only the now middle-aged Maddox and Trent remaining by the next morning, which Trent

503
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,280
deduces is connected to an underwater coral passage.

504
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Believing that the passage will allow them to leave the beach without losing consciousness,

505
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,860
he and his sister start swimming through the coral.

506
00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:45,760
After they fail to emerge from the water, a resort employee monitoring them reports

507
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040
that the entire group has died.

508
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,160
He gives the news to the manager, who mentions a previous incident where a guest almost escaped

509
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,360
the beach before announcing that trial 73 has concluded.

510
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:07,240
It is revealed that the resort is a front for a research team conducting clinical trials

511
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:12,440
of new medical drugs, which are administered to guests with medical conditions by spiking

512
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,880
their drinks.

513
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Since the beach naturally accelerates the lives of guests, the researchers have been

514
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000
able to complete the drug's lifetime trials within a day.

515
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,960
The researchers move forward with luring a new group to the beach but are interrupted

516
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,200
by the arrival of Trent and Maddox, who survive their underwater swim.

517
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,240
Using the notebook as evidence, the siblings are able to bring the police to the resort.

518
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,240
Once the researchers are arrested, Trent and Maddox head home to live with their aunt,

519
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,240
uncertain of their future.

520
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:47,760
Yeah, I'll be 100% real.

521
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,800
So this is just kind of a reflection of how we thought the movie went.

522
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
We gave the movie an 88.5.

523
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Yeah, that's not bad for a story.

524
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Because it is such an interesting idea.

525
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Yeah, it absolutely is.

526
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,240
It's just, I think it's once you start breaking it down into like the little individual pieces

527
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:20,160
because story, this like, spoiler alert, the story is the highest category that we have.

528
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,880
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me one bit.

529
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,760
Yeah, the story is incredible.

530
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,900
Like when you think about it, just like it is really, really good.

531
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,760
It's just individual aspects, which we'll get into eventually.

532
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:46,240
Like the idea of finding this place and being able to perform medical experiments like this,

533
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:52,840
like yes, there is a major ethical conundrum here.

534
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,240
Yes.

535
00:38:55,240 --> 00:39:00,040
But ultimately it is, I mean, it's a good idea in retrospect.

536
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,120
It is a very good idea.

537
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,440
It's just not well executed.

538
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,640
Yeah.

539
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Like, it's so good.

540
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:22,480
So the way that this island ages you, every hour is the equivalent of two years.

541
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,760
And so that's how fast it like, it ages you.

542
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:33,800
And it's just, we'll get into it with logic, but I mean, there's some issues I have with

543
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,040
it, but it's just like that idea because they address like so many different issues because

544
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,280
they bring like young children like on the beach with them.

545
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Yeah.

546
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:51,840
And so the kids are like, you're able to see like a significant difference in the children

547
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,880
very, very quickly.

548
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,760
There's this one part where the kids go and introduce themselves to like the newest group

549
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,160
of people on the beach that came like 10 or 20 minutes later.

550
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,200
Actually, no, it was probably like 30 minutes later.

551
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,200
I don't know.

552
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Well, I don't know.

553
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,480
How long do you think it was?

554
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,840
They said they slept in for like a couple hours.

555
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,840
Okay.

556
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,560
So yeah, that makes more sense.

557
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:25,800
But yeah, so since it had been a couple hours when the kids go, when Trent and, that's his

558
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,800
name, right?

559
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,800
Trenton Maddox?

560
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,720
Yeah, that's the brother and sister.

561
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:36,560
So when they go and introduce themselves to this new couple that had just come, they're

562
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,360
just like, oh, you know, like, hey, you know, how old are you guys?

563
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,480
And they're just like, oh, guess.

564
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,040
And they're just like, oh, you know, like you look like 11 and your sister looks like

565
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,280
14.

566
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000
And Trent's just like, no, I'm six.

567
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,040
And he's just like, the guy's just like, okay, you guys are playing mind tricks with us.

568
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,360
There's no way you're six.

569
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,280
You have to be at least 10 or 11.

570
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,640
And for the freaking guys just like to play like freaking mind games with us and shit.

571
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,680
It's kind of funny.

572
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,760
I thought that was such an interesting conversation.

573
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:14,600
I'm just like, like, okay, I can see that like where kids would be messing with you.

574
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,880
Yeah.

575
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,120
So I think the rate like I was actually a little bit higher on my story grade than you

576
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,120
were.

577
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:31,160
But seeing that we're at that, that 88 and a half, I was trying to think of like, what

578
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,840
would bring the story down?

579
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:45,000
And I think ultimately, it was like the mental capacity of the kids.

580
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:56,560
Like, it was, it seemed like the kids start or were able to start doing math a lot better

581
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,240
than like, I feel a six year old should.

582
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,520
Oh, so true.

583
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:07,400
And like the emotional attachments like, okay, so they have another child there.

584
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,680
Her name is Kara.

585
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:16,600
She is from a different family between Charles and Crystal.

586
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:23,440
Charles is like, is a is a head doctor or a medical chief officer, whatever the hell

587
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:30,680
up from a hospital and Crystal seems like she's some social media influencer type crazy

588
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,680
person.

589
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,680
Yeah, that's a good way to describe her.

590
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,840
Yeah, so the way that she talks to her daughter, like honey, stand up straight guys won't think

591
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,680
you're attractive if you're like slouching when you're older.

592
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,800
I'm just like, shut up.

593
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Yeah.

594
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Geez, I'm trying to see how old they have the young Kara because they have the Kara

595
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,080
at age 15.

596
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,880
They have a Kara at 11.

597
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,160
So maybe she's the same age.

598
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,640
So she was like six years old, too.

599
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,240
And shit got weird.

600
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:24,440
Yeah, like they were talking like, it was like a really interesting conversation between

601
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:31,120
there was this character midsize sedan, who is like some famous rapper, he was just funky

602
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,120
in general, like what the hell was his purpose?

603
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Yeah, seriously, though, like he was on the beach all night.

604
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Or at least it felt like he did unless he went to the beach like super early in the

605
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,480
morning.

606
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Yeah, I have no idea.

607
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,560
But yeah, so he was on this beach.

608
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:57,200
And then Maddox at her like normal age, like pointed it out and was just like, oh my gosh,

609
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,500
like that's midsize Dan, like this famous rapper, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

610
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:06,520
And then as she started like getting older, like, there was like this really weird connection

611
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,840
between them.

612
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,240
Where they were like having hearts.

613
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,640
Yeah, they were having like this heart to heart.

614
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,960
And I'm just like, this is gross.

615
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:24,240
As she was talking about like her mental capacity and being like, oh, I had all these like,

616
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,760
these bright colors, these bright and loud colors.

617
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,480
And now I have like more colors in my mind, but they're just all a little quieter.

618
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,280
And I'm like, the hell?

619
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,720
Yeah, seriously.

620
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,480
And then when they were dealing, it's just so weird.

621
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:47,040
And then they were dealing with all this like other weird shit, like this rapidly decomposed

622
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,480
body or someone dying or this like surgery or like her mom had this, this tumor that

623
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,480
was growing.

624
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,640
It was increasingly getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

625
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,040
And yeah, so it was just getting bigger.

626
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,480
And so they had to do this, like this crazy surgery to remove the tumor.

627
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,320
And Charles was like able to perform it.

628
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:17,720
And so she like Maddox was sitting there, like kind of all up in the, in the thick of

629
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:18,720
it.

630
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,200
And then midsize sedan like had his hand on her shoulder.

631
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,600
I'm like, that's no, that's weird.

632
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:24,600
Yeah.

633
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,560
I mean, she was eight like last night.

634
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,560
So no.

635
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,560
Yeah, like, let's see.

636
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,240
Whatever.

637
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:39,200
Uh, the youngest age that I'm seeing for Maddox is 11.

638
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Okay.

639
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Yeah, no, hell no.

640
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,680
Still funky.

641
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,680
Very.

642
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Yeah.

643
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Cause what was she?

644
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,840
Was she like 15 or 16 in that scene?

645
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,840
Yeah.

646
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,960
So in yeah, in that they had switched to the 16 year old actress.

647
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,960
Okay.

648
00:45:53,960 --> 00:46:00,120
So she was like, no, either way you want to look at it.

649
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,720
That's fricking weird.

650
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,000
Yeah.

651
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,720
So I think that's why like ultimately I docked it.

652
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:09,600
Cause I'm just like, okay, there's some ideas here that are not great.

653
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Yeah.

654
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Um, but it was really gross to me.

655
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,820
Oh, was the fricking, when, you know, like when they make an incision and it just automatically

656
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:23,560
heals back up, they're just like, Oh no, we have to like hold it up, pry it open with

657
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120
our hands to where you can cut it open.

658
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,520
I'm like, Oh hell no, that's gross.

659
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Like my unsanitary, like, like that was kicking in.

660
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,800
I'm like, that is so unsanitary.

661
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,240
Dude, not even that the way that when they were spreading that they were like, I can

662
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:44,840
feel it healing around me.

663
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,080
And the guy was not kidding.

664
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,760
That thing was the size of a fricking cantaloupe.

665
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Yeah.

666
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,880
So like for the majority of the movie, you don't know what's happening to these people.

667
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Anytime they try to leave this Island, they're blacking out.

668
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,160
And did they ever like really explain, like, I think that's another thing that I docked

669
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,160
for.

670
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,080
Like, did they ever truly explain why they were blacking out or was it because that they

671
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,200
were leaving this like environment that was rapidly aging them?

672
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:16,680
And so the, the, the halt to that aging process is what made them like pass out.

673
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,960
I think that's what it was because like you said, because they're aging so fast, the fact

674
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,800
that they're trying to switch, go back to a time that would halt this process, the,

675
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,080
their bodies kind of just like, okay, hell no, that's like too much for me to take.

676
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880
And so that's why they black out.

677
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Okay.

678
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,880
Yeah.

679
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,320
Well, I didn't, didn't ever get was why did they end up back in the middle of the beach?

680
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,440
Yeah, that, yeah, that was kind of weird.

681
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Yeah.

682
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,440
I never explained.

683
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Yeah, that was like another thing that kind of pulled me out.

684
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:54,400
I'm just like, not loving that, but it's just like the reveal, like the, the, the typical

685
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,840
M night Shyamalan reveal of what was actually going on, that they're testing these, these

686
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,400
drugs, like what they're, they're claiming are these, like these miracle cures, and they're

687
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:13,920
doing like a lifetime of testing in an evening or in like a single day.

688
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Like, and they were like, they kind of had this reveal that they're, that everyone on

689
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:28,960
this, this island or this, this beach had some sort of medical condition.

690
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,840
Charles had some sort of like mental disorder schizophrenia, schizophrenia.

691
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Okay.

692
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,840
Yeah.

693
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,800
So it kind of made him a little racist and, and paranoid.

694
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,800
Yeah.

695
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,400
Let's see.

696
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:51,960
Mid-size sedan had a, whatever that disease was that caused like, or I'll just say chronic

697
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,960
nosebleeds.

698
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,000
Yeah, there we go.

699
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,160
Prisca had a tumor.

700
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Crystal had like a calcium deficiency.

701
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,960
Patricia, she had.

702
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Well, Crystal, yeah, Crystal had a hypoglycemia.

703
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,680
Oh, is that okay?

704
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Or sorry, hypocalcemia.

705
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,200
Sorry.

706
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,560
Hypocalce, okay.

707
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Patricia had epilepsy.

708
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,240
Caused her to have like some crazy bad seizures.

709
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,760
I think so.

710
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,200
And then I think her husband, Jaren was, was fine.

711
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Yeah.

712
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,800
So it, yeah, not everyone had an existing health condition as long as like someone from

713
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960
each family had something.

714
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,960
That's all they cared about.

715
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,060
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

716
00:49:47,060 --> 00:49:52,600
So it was interesting because at the, like the very end they reveal that, oh, they, they

717
00:49:52,600 --> 00:50:00,400
snuck some cocktail into, or they, they snuck some drug into these people's cocktail at

718
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:10,160
the beginning of their, their visit when they were like, when they came to the hotel and

719
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,400
then, then when they went to the island, it was like that rapid aging.

720
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,120
And so Patricia had gone through the entirety of her visit on the beach.

721
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,600
I mean, up until her ultimate death.

722
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,780
What did they say?

723
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:32,840
She lived like eight hours without having an epileptic episode, but then she had, I

724
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,120
thought what was happening was like, oh, she's just like moving through these phases of,

725
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040
of time so fast that her body can't like keep up.

726
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,240
And so I thought what she had was like the ultimate like epileptic seizure.

727
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,240
Yeah.

728
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:49,000
I kinda thought the same thing.

729
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,920
Like I just thought it was like a buildup of stuff, but then she like, yeah, had the,

730
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,640
the crazy seizure that killed her.

731
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,440
Um, so yeah, that was like really interesting.

732
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,800
Cause yeah, didn't the doctor come and say, because it was eight hours, that is equivalent

733
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,600
to 16 years without an epileptic seizure.

734
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,200
Actually let's, let's see exactly what that timeline would be.

735
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:25,600
So it is eight hours or how long did she, was it 18 hours?

736
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,600
It wasn't 18 hours.

737
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,800
It was eight, right?

738
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,840
It was six or eight.

739
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
I can't remember which one.

740
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,120
I think you're right.

741
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Okay, so she survived eight hours.

742
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,600
That would have been 16 years without a seizure.

743
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,200
So yeah, so 16 years.

744
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,320
Yeah.

745
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,120
So it's just like, however much time that like translates to, which is just fricking

746
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,600
weird to think about.

747
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Yeah, but it's kind of cool though.

748
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,960
It is.

749
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,960
It's super cool.

750
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:09,160
It's, it's so fricking interesting, but I think another thing like why, why is it that

751
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:15,560
the, the coral was like a passageway?

752
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:21,960
Yeah, like seriously though, why is it coral that like, like, was it a special type of

753
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:22,960
coral?

754
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,680
Was it just being able to like swim like underneath that like radius?

755
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:32,040
It had to be, I don't know, like.

756
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,120
It was just like weird.

757
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,200
Like why was that like the gateway?

758
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,280
Yeah, like how was coral the one that slows down this process?

759
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Yeah, it was just like, it was just like an odd thing.

760
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,360
Like nothing too big, at least story wise.

761
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,400
I'm like, okay, like I can buy that, I guess.

762
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Yeah.

763
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,840
Like maybe it was just the coral was putting something off in the water that counteracted

764
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:02,480
the whatever substance or like that was another thing.

765
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:10,040
They revealed that it was like some sort of like the minerals of the, of the beach, like

766
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,240
that were specific to the beach.

767
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:18,240
It was something in the rocks and the sand and all that, that made, that did the hyper

768
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:23,620
aging to like everyone's cells.

769
00:53:23,620 --> 00:53:27,160
And so they were thinking like, oh, we can make a big metal tube and hide it in there.

770
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,840
Like how the hell are we going to get a big metal tube?

771
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,880
I found it a super interesting that they touch upon how like, oh, if you know, like we're

772
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,000
aging, why isn't our like nails growing faster?

773
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Why isn't our hair changing color?

774
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,960
And then they say, because that stuff is technically already dead.

775
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,840
They're like dead, like dead cells.

776
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,360
So of course it's not going to, because you're aging so fast.

777
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,760
I forget how they explain it, but they do explain it and it felt like they explained

778
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,960
it in a very understandable way.

779
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,520
I didn't even think of that.

780
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,480
Like that was another like thing that like threw me off.

781
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,400
I'm like, why aren't there?

782
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,240
So but that makes like absolute sense now.

783
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,240
Yeah.

784
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:10,240
Cause yeah.

785
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:11,240
Yeah.

786
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:18,120
So it's like, it's already like dead or disconnected from your like actual body.

787
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,800
So okay, I can buy that.

788
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,800
Yeah.

789
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,800
So yeah.

790
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Cause I felt like the same thing until they brought up that up.

791
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,760
I'm like, okay, nevermind.

792
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,400
You guys explained it.

793
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,680
Yeah, that is okay.

794
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,560
I like that.

795
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,360
Yeah.

796
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:45,280
So an 88.5, I think it definitely reflects just how good the idea of this story was.

797
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,320
Yes, absolutely.

798
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:54,360
I think it can bring up a lot of like interesting conversations about that kind of stuff.

799
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:01,080
But moving on over to writing, we gave this a 73.

800
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:06,120
So it was significantly less than the story.

801
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:13,640
There's kind of some cheesy parts.

802
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:19,680
One of my things that I've always kind of bitched and complained about is wasted dialogue

803
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,320
and there could have not been more of that.

804
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,560
Like it just felt like every conversation beforehand, I'm like, all right, let's just

805
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,280
get to the beach.

806
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,280
Yeah.

807
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:39,760
Like, like seriously though, like, like the part where they're like, uh, just in their

808
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:46,440
hotel room before they decide to go to, uh, not just not this beach, but the other beach,

809
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,520
that feels like completely wasted dialogue.

810
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:54,940
I feel the only time that they needed to talk in their hotel room was when they are actually

811
00:55:54,940 --> 00:55:57,800
fighting and their kids hear them fighting.

812
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:08,440
Yeah, like I want to understand, like, it was just like, what was the purpose behind

813
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,520
that aspect?

814
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Like they could have, it was, she was dealing with a tumor, something that she thought was

815
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,960
terminal in one way or another.

816
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,800
It's just like, why, why did they have to throw in like the divorce aspect of it?

817
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,800
Yeah.

818
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,860
It's like they were dealing with so much already.

819
00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:31,600
Like it just felt odd for them to like try and deal with the divorce and they didn't

820
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,560
even like handle it all that well.

821
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,040
Like the very end is like, what were we fighting about?

822
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,760
I'm like, really?

823
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,760
Like seriously.

824
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,760
Yeah.

825
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,680
And like the whole, like, oh, uh, the wife's talking to this other guy and the husband's

826
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,200
just like, oh, are you talking to him?

827
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,760
He's a, he's a piece of crap.

828
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,000
You deserve so much better.

829
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:54,080
I'm just like, okay, you guys have barely even talked about this other guy.

830
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:59,400
Like, so I guess I'm just supposed to take your word that he's a piece of shit.

831
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Okay.

832
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Yeah.

833
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,400
Like who?

834
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,400
Yeah.

835
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,760
I don't even think they gave him a name.

836
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,760
Did they?

837
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,760
They didn't.

838
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,760
What the shit?

839
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,760
Yeah.

840
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,040
It was just like, he just said like, really that guy.

841
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,480
So I mean, I guess that's like one way that they could have been like, oh, we're just

842
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,820
treating the audience like adults.

843
00:57:18,820 --> 00:57:24,160
Like he knows who she's cheating with, but like they don't need to do some like exposition

844
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,080
like cause how, like, I think it would have just been worse.

845
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:32,800
Had he been like, really my best friend or really my coworker, like whatever, like who,

846
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,400
whatever the situation may have been.

847
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Like I think that would have come off way worse.

848
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,080
No.

849
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,080
Okay.

850
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,080
That's fair.

851
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,080
Yeah.

852
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:46,520
So I mean, I'll give some like bonus points for treating us like adults in that aspect.

853
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,440
It's just, that was an odd thing to throw in for them to be dealing with.

854
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,040
I'm like, nah, they were dealing with so much other shit.

855
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Yeah.

856
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:06,360
Um, how did you feel with the writing between Charles, his wife, and then his mother?

857
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,280
I thought it was weird.

858
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,720
Like that whole family felt odd.

859
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:11,720
Am I the, okay.

860
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:18,720
Am I like the only one that felt that like, um, so it was like, I thought Charles and

861
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000
his mom were actually the couple.

862
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,800
And then I did too.

863
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,800
Okay.

864
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,240
And then the lady was their daughter.

865
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,280
And then that was their granddaughter.

866
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,200
Yeah, that is exactly what I thought too.

867
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,200
Okay.

868
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Good.

869
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,760
I'm not, I'm not trying to sound like, oh, you know, like a, uh, go against anyone that,

870
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,480
you know, like has a huge age gap in their relationship, but that's just how it came

871
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,480
across to me.

872
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,680
It isn't explained that their husband and wife until they get to the beach, it is not

873
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,560
like showcased in that first scene.

874
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,680
Yeah.

875
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:57,320
And that felt fricking, it felt so weird because it was like, she was just blatantly flirting

876
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,720
with the waiter at the table when like they first introduced.

877
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,400
So I'm just like, okay, this, like, this is a weird dynamic.

878
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,280
Like these, these parents are watching their daughter, like just kind of flaunt herself

879
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,880
like cause Charles and his mother had the same expression on their face.

880
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,360
So I was just like, okay, so they're just kind of both irritated with her shit.

881
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Like, I don't know, like I think it would have made more sense had Charles been sitting

882
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,280
on the same side as crystal.

883
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Yes.

884
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,280
Absolutely.

885
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,240
And then Kara been sitting with her grandmother.

886
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,040
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

887
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,840
That would have made a lot more sense.

888
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,840
Yeah.

889
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,120
I think that would have established it.

890
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,880
It's just, it felt so weird.

891
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Oh, man, it was just dialogue after wasted dialogue.

892
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,880
Just so, so funky.

893
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,200
And like they never really established what the hell Charles had.

894
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:08,960
Like I don't feel like they did because this schizophrenics like, because I mean, his whole

895
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:15,800
obsession was like, like, does anyone know that movie with Marlon Brando and, and who

896
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,800
else?

897
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,800
Oh, I forgot.

898
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:18,800
Yeah, it does.

899
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Okay.

900
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,800
Yeah.

901
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,880
It doesn't really matter, but he's like, does anyone else know that movie?

902
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,880
Does anyone know that movie?

903
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,560
And I'm like, that seems like an obsessive compulsive thing.

904
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,600
Like I want to look up the actual like definition of schizophrenia.

905
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Yeah.

906
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:39,880
It was just like, I was thinking like for a long time that it was Alzheimer's.

907
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760
Oh, okay.

908
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,480
Actually that, okay.

909
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,440
His behavior actually does make sense with that whole like, do you remember that movie?

910
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:53,480
Because it's defined as a mental disorder characterized by delusions, hallucinations,

911
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,240
disorganized thoughts, speech and behavior.

912
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,240
Okay.

913
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,240
Yeah.

914
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,240
All right.

915
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,800
I'm a little bit more forgiving of that scene then.

916
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,200
That makes a lot more sense.

917
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,200
Okay.

918
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,200
Yeah.

919
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:17,760
Um, well, it's common for ages 18 to 35 and it's more common in males.

920
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,760
Wonderful.

921
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,760
Tracks.

922
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,760
Yeah.

923
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:30,160
So I think most of his stuff, like it, I think it was just the, uh, the, the, the, the, the,

924
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:39,520
um, the not clarity or the lack of clarity with his stuff that made it a little hard

925
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,520
to follow.

926
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,720
And I'm just like, okay, what the hell is his problem?

927
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,440
Like I know he has a problem.

928
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Like what is it?

929
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,800
Yeah, no, no, I agree.

930
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,920
Um, Midsize Sedan was like a weird one too.

931
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,240
Like what the hell was his problem?

932
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,920
Like other than like the chronic nosebleeds.

933
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,480
I'm like, that doesn't seem like a big enough issue to like run an experiment like this.

934
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,480
Yeah, I, I, I agree.

935
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:11,240
But what's his, is it for haemophilia?

936
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240
Yeah.

937
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,240
What does that even mean?

938
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:14,240
Is it?

939
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,200
Yeah, I'm looking it up.

940
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:24,760
Uh, oh, is it mostly inherited genetic disorder that impairs the body's ability to make blood

941
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,720
clots a process needed to stop bleeding?

942
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,240
Easy bruising and an increase.

943
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,480
This results in people bleeding for a longer time after an injury, easy bruising and an

944
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,760
increased risk of bleeding inside joints or the brain.

945
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,720
Those with a mild case of the disease may have symptoms only after an accident or during

946
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,760
surgery bleeding into a joint can result in permanent damage while bleeding in the brain

947
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:54,680
can result in long-term headache seizures or a decreased level of consciousness.

948
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,960
Shit.

949
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:04,760
Yeah, they, um, I looked up this article about it and they're just like, yeah, he, they've

950
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,840
never really addressed what his problem was.

951
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,440
It was an unspecified blood disease.

952
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,440
Okay.

953
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,080
All right.

954
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,940
So I thought like midsize sedan was just like a wasted character.

955
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:25,880
He really was honestly, and it's not the actor's fault.

956
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,080
Actor did the best with what he was given.

957
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:34,640
Um, oh my gosh, like every, everything that he said, like every time like something happened,

958
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,580
he's just damn.

959
01:03:36,580 --> 01:03:39,280
And then like nothing, like he wouldn't follow it up with anything.

960
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,480
I'm just like, okay, yeah.

961
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,000
But how does that make you feel?

962
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,760
Yeah, I'm like, follow it up with something like other than just damn and then just blank

963
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,760
expression.

964
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:55,240
And then they like moved on to someone that actually had something worth the, worth something

965
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,240
to hear.

966
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,240
Yeah.

967
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:02,400
I'm like, this is so dumb.

968
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:10,520
But it like, I also feel like with how long or how much longer he was on the beach, like

969
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:19,740
why, like I have a hard time understanding why the hell his, um, his girlfriend disappeared

970
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:26,880
because it seemed like he, it seemed like he was there like all night.

971
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,160
Yeah it did.

972
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,680
So she should have been like way more decomposed than she was, but was it just the fact that

973
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,620
she was in the water?

974
01:04:35,620 --> 01:04:38,360
And shouldn't he have looked a lot older than he did?

975
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,880
Yeah, something along those lines, right?

976
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,400
Cause yeah, cause Maddox like recognized him instantly.

977
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:51,000
So if that's the case, then he must've looked exactly like she remembers him.

978
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,000
But honestly, if he's been there for, I mean, I don't know what time they went in there

979
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,040
at night, but yeah, he should be a freaking like almost double his age by now.

980
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,020
Yeah, you would think like, what the hell?

981
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:08,200
And then just the fact that he was just sitting on the, like it was just an odd thing for

982
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,440
him to be related in this story at all.

983
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,720
Like I think they could have had the exact same story.

984
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:21,680
I think that instead of Charles killing midsize sedan, have him kill the, the nurse.

985
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Yeah, yeah, absolutely agree.

986
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,480
Yeah.

987
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,520
Midsize sedan was a very much wasted character.

988
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,520
Yeah.

989
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,640
And then I mean, shit, the, what was the nurse's name?

990
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Jaren?

991
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:36,840
Jaren was freaking wasted too.

992
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,040
He just went out and like tried swimming.

993
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:47,280
I'm like, cool, we've already seen someone try to leave the island by swimming with,

994
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,440
with midsize sedan's girlfriend.

995
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Like, so obviously there's just some sort of like magical bubble around this, this island.

996
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
That's what I would have thought.

997
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,480
Like anyone who would have been like, oh, maybe if we climb up and I'm like, no, that

998
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,440
is not how minerals work.

999
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:15,920
Like you are so freaking stupid, but I, I would have believed like someone with the

1000
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,480
mental capacity of a six year old, like Kara.

1001
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:20,480
Yeah.

1002
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,280
See that one absolutely makes sense.

1003
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,280
Yeah.

1004
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,360
Where she'd been like, maybe if we go up and I'm like, no, you're a child.

1005
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,360
Stop.

1006
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,680
I want to point out though, um, with the whole like Kara and Trent thing, I shouldn't have

1007
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,640
laughed, but the part where, you know, like they're like shocked that she's pregnant and

1008
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,720
he's just like, Oh, I thought you had to like do that like 10 times in order to get pregnant.

1009
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,720
Oh my gosh.

1010
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:44,080
I actually freaking started laughing.

1011
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,280
I'm like, no, buddy, that is not how that works.

1012
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:55,000
Maybe if you have a condom, but dude, I was losing my mind.

1013
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,680
I'm just like, cause first off, they don't show that they're doing anything.

1014
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,640
It just showed that they were just like laying there.

1015
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,640
Yeah.

1016
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:08,440
So I'm like, okay, this is like weird because they're like talking about like adult things.

1017
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,000
And I'm like, you guys are like having mental capacity of a six year old.

1018
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,000
Yeah.

1019
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,880
This is getting, this is getting weird.

1020
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,200
And then when she comes out and she's pregnant, I'm just like, this is gross.

1021
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,720
And then when she actually had the baby, like I, uh, Braille heard like crying and she's

1022
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,120
just like, Oh my gosh, you had the baby.

1023
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,760
And I'm like the six year old.

1024
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,200
And we, um, I don't know if I would put, no, this wouldn't be an effect.

1025
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,520
So I just want to bring this up.

1026
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:41,200
Um, is it just me or did, I mean, I don't know how big the fetus would have been like

1027
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,320
the actual like baby.

1028
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:49,320
Um, cause the way that they were portraying the baby, like when trends decide, Oh, we

1029
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,120
need to put him to rest.

1030
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,360
It seriously looked like it was just a folded up blanket.

1031
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,120
It looked like there was nothing in there because the bones were like, it would have

1032
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,080
been bones.

1033
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,080
That is okay.

1034
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Nevermind.

1035
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,080
I take it.

1036
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,200
And the dust spelling out was the bones having like decomposed.

1037
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,680
I miss that.

1038
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,680
Okay.

1039
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,680
Shit.

1040
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:13,680
Sean Milan.

1041
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,680
Okay.

1042
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:15,680
Kudos to you.

1043
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,680
Shit.

1044
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,680
Okay.

1045
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,680
That's what I thought too.

1046
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,680
I was just like, that's a lot of dust.

1047
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,680
Like you guys didn't clean that up at all.

1048
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:26,840
And then I was like, Oh wait, you guys talked about this bones decompose a little bit later.

1049
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,400
Okay.

1050
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,400
All right.

1051
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Nevermind.

1052
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,400
Yeah.

1053
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Right.

1054
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,200
Rejection retracted or complaint retracted.

1055
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,200
Yeah.

1056
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:42,840
We'll, we'll get into this with, um, with logic because I have issues.

1057
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,040
Okay.

1058
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:54,160
Um, it's, it's interesting to think about like that pregnancy and like that I'll leave

1059
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,160
it at that for now.

1060
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,160
Yeah.

1061
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:07,800
But writing, writing wise, it was significantly worse than the actual story.

1062
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,160
There were so many things that pulled me out of it.

1063
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,880
Like it wasn't even funny.

1064
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,200
Um, yeah.

1065
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,960
Moving on over to acting.

1066
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:33,360
Let's see, we have Gail Bernal who played guy Vicky Cripes or creeps who played Prisca

1067
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:42,560
Rufus Sewell who played Charles Alex Wolf who played Trent when he was 15.

1068
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,240
Thomas and Mackenzie who played Maddox when she was 16.

1069
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,920
Abby Lee who played crystal.

1070
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,880
Nikki Amooka Bird who played Patricia.

1071
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,640
Can Leong who played Jaren.

1072
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,920
Eliza Scanlon who played Kara when she was aged at 15.

1073
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,080
Aaron Pierce who played midsize sedan.

1074
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:09,560
Like we can, unfortunately we have to go through this like entire list.

1075
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,880
Um, M Beth Davids who played adult Maddox.

1076
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,040
Iman Elliott who played adult Trent.

1077
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,240
Alexa Swinton who played Maddox aged 11.

1078
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,800
Gustav Hammerston who played the resort manager.

1079
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:36,080
Kathleen Chalfant who played Agnes which I believe was Charles's mother.

1080
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,320
Yeah I'm pretty sure.

1081
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,600
She wasn't important.

1082
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,720
Okay Nolan River who played Trent aged 6.

1083
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,440
Luca Rodriguez who played Trent aged 11.

1084
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:55,680
Micaiah Fisher who played Kara aged 11.

1085
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:00,440
And then I believe that was it.

1086
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:05,520
And then M. Night Shyamalan played the hotel van driver.

1087
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,560
Yeah I actually didn't know that he always has a part in all of his movies.

1088
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,840
I never knew that.

1089
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:12,840
Does he really?

1090
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,480
Yeah, because when I saw the bus ride.

1091
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:19,280
That's Shyamalan right?

1092
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,040
Yeah I didn't, I'm not super familiar with like how he looks.

1093
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,040
Oh okay.

1094
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,840
So I didn't pick up on that.

1095
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,840
Oh.

1096
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Not a bad actor.

1097
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:37,280
Unfortunately they don't have an actress for Kara when she was aged 6.

1098
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,920
Huh, interesting.

1099
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,400
Yeah so really decent cast.

1100
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,680
Yeah.

1101
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:54,360
Unfortunately though we gave them a 70.5.

1102
01:11:54,360 --> 01:12:09,160
Yeah you know what honestly the acting, well okay you know actually I was telling myself

1103
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,880
this while watching I'm like you know what you know like the acting is good as it gets

1104
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,280
for like a Shyamalan movie but then I'm like okay wait hold up.

1105
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:22,920
Shyamalan has had James McAvoy, Samuel L. Jackson, and freaking Bruce Willis in his

1106
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,920
films.

1107
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,880
How can the acting be not so good in this one?

1108
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,920
Yeah it was just like something was just odd about it.

1109
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,920
Yeah.

1110
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:43,920
And I'm not sure, like I'm pretty sure it wasn't due to the story.

1111
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:51,320
Like I'm sure that it might have had like a small part in it but overall it was just

1112
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,720
odd.

1113
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:59,040
Like it just felt really, it just felt off.

1114
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,040
It did.

1115
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,320
Like everyone felt off.

1116
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:10,240
Like I had a hard time believing like until like the very end that Guy and Prisca would

1117
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,880
have been like romantic with each other.

1118
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,120
Like it almost felt like they were like siblings in a way.

1119
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,480
Yeah oh that is a perfect way to explain it.

1120
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:23,720
Yep yeah they just felt like brother and sister.

1121
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:29,620
Yeah and then I think we addressed it Charles and Crystal they did not feel like husband

1122
01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:33,680
and wife they felt very much like father and daughter.

1123
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,200
Yeah yeah.

1124
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:46,160
And freaking the lady that played, or the girl that played Maddox at 16, I think she

1125
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,480
needs to work a little bit on her acting chops.

1126
01:13:49,480 --> 01:13:50,860
Absolutely.

1127
01:13:50,860 --> 01:13:56,600
I don't know why because it was in the trailer and also just the scene in the movie where

1128
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,400
she's just like dad why are you looking at me like that.

1129
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,760
I don't know just the way that she said it I'm just like oh that's kind of cringy.

1130
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:10,360
It is cringy but have you ever heard an 11 year old talk?

1131
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,200
It is very much like that.

1132
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,820
Everything they say is awkward.

1133
01:14:16,820 --> 01:14:19,480
So I was actually able to let that go.

1134
01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:24,240
Yeah I was actually, that was like something I was able to let go and I'm like okay it's

1135
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,200
like an 11 year old they kind of have this like weird way of talking.

1136
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:33,560
Like they're kind of discovering their voice, like their tone.

1137
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:40,060
Even when I've gone back and like watched old home movies of me talking I want to like

1138
01:14:40,060 --> 01:14:44,240
shoot myself forever having spoken like that.

1139
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:49,240
Same, absolute same.

1140
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:57,240
Yeah so I was able to let that go and it progressively got better.

1141
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,720
But it was just like these weird little things that I'm just like ugh not digging that.

1142
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Like anything mid-sized sedan did I was like I was not a fan of.

1143
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,640
No same here.

1144
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:14,040
Okay so you said it's Alex Wolf right that was in this one?

1145
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,040
Yes.

1146
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,840
Okay and he's supposed to play the 15 year old of Trent?

1147
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:19,840
Yes.

1148
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:28,440
I'm sorry he looks way too old to be a freaking 15 year old.

1149
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:33,640
I think like early 20s because I think that's what Alex is.

1150
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:39,680
I mean I know he's playing like a high schooler in like Jumanji in the two Jumanji films that

1151
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:44,800
he's in but that was like years ago that was like back in like 2017 where he could still

1152
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,600
pass for that.

1153
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,840
But now he's just too freaking old to try to pass off as like a freaking and he's supposed

1154
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:57,800
to be like a freaking like if he's 15 he's a freaking middle schooler in this.

1155
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:07,480
Yeah it was I think that like the time thing ended up working pretty well in their favor.

1156
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:08,720
Oh yeah.

1157
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,600
Because then they could eventually be like well he wasn't 15 for that long.

1158
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,680
Yeah true.

1159
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,960
So I think that's like that's why it worked out a little bit.

1160
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,640
I think they might have kept I think they should have gone for someone who looked a

1161
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:31,800
little bit older than the 16 year old Maddox because I felt like I'm like okay now it feels

1162
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,680
like she's younger than Trent.

1163
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,800
Yes.

1164
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,800
Yeah I absolutely agree.

1165
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:48,960
Some of that felt just different.

1166
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,480
Well trying to think of like if there was honestly the only person that I was like really

1167
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:59,560
impressed with throughout was Patricia and Jaren.

1168
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,360
That was the couple that was late right?

1169
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:05,360
Yeah.

1170
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,360
Yeah.

1171
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,360
Yep.

1172
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,360
I absolutely agree.

1173
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,360
I actually thought their acting was pretty good.

1174
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,280
Yeah they're actually what brought it up for me a lot.

1175
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,320
Like I was at I would have been in the 60s if they weren't in it.

1176
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,120
Yeah same here because like honestly even when they're at the hotel I freaking love

1177
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,680
their like freaking sarcasm at each other because after she has her like seizure she's

1178
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,840
just like oh you know like I'm really sorry and he's just like oh no it's okay honey you

1179
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,040
always got to be the center of attention.

1180
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,120
I know I freaking love that stuff.

1181
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,120
That was great.

1182
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,720
Yeah.

1183
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:46,440
So interesting to say the least.

1184
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:56,080
Yeah honestly like biggest besides them I actually I don't know I actually really liked

1185
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,440
Shyamalan's acting in this.

1186
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,880
I thought he was actually pretty good for the little role that he had.

1187
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,640
I was going to say he wasn't in it that much.

1188
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:08,040
No he wasn't but I don't know like I for what he was in I actually thought he was decent.

1189
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,320
I didn't know that he was like he's not a horrible actor.

1190
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:19,480
He can decently act in I would say decently direct.

1191
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:33,760
Yeah the only crystals acting I had issues with and it was once she became like homicidal

1192
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,080
like trying to smash the kids with a rock I'm like what the hell.

1193
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:42,400
Yeah that was I mean I guess like you could say oh yeah but if you're aging that fast

1194
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,680
and your bones are like you know degrading that fast once you start going crazy not that

1195
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,680
crazy.

1196
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,600
Yeah not like homicidal crazy.

1197
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:56,320
Like I would have more believed if she would have tried to like throw a rock out of like

1198
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,600
a fit of rage.

1199
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,480
Yeah that would have made a lot more sense.

1200
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:04,280
Yeah but it looked like she was going for the kids.

1201
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,280
Yeah which what the hell did those kids ever do to you.

1202
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,600
Yeah exactly like they were like freaking out.

1203
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,120
She was like oh my gosh that scene was so gross.

1204
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:24,040
Oh yeah and we'll get into that with effects but yeah acting wise not the best.

1205
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,040
It was watchable.

1206
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040
It was watchable.

1207
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:31,680
It doesn't pull you out of it that much but it's just it has issues.

1208
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:38,080
Yeah all right moving on over to character development which we are going to be talking

1209
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:45,520
about logic and this is where I had some issues.

1210
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:50,760
I actually had so much issues I made a chart of how long different things take.

1211
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,040
I love it.

1212
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:59,560
All right so they established that every 30 minutes is the equivalent of one year.

1213
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:12,440
Yes so if the so this is kind of getting into the scene with Crystal where she was like

1214
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:16,120
throwing the rocks and breaking her bones.

1215
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:22,720
The average amount of time for bones to heal at least to the point where it's like oh now

1216
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:30,080
it's like stuck that way is six to eight weeks of normal time.

1217
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,040
Okay.

1218
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:42,840
So six to eight weeks in this world is the equivalent of 3.75 minutes and it seemed like

1219
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,240
she was about to throw the rock and it like snapped her bones and then they're just like

1220
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,240
oh it's healed.

1221
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:54,800
I'm like you guys have been sitting there for three almost four minutes.

1222
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,800
I'm going bullshit.

1223
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,920
Yeah that doesn't sound believable.

1224
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,880
Yeah right.

1225
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,640
Let's see another one.

1226
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:14,360
The only one that I feel like they got on the money was the baby because that like gestation

1227
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,880
period would have taken 22 and a half minutes.

1228
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:24,320
That's that was that was nine months so they were just like oh she like she must have only

1229
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,680
been pregnant for like 20 minutes.

1230
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,160
So I'm like okay like I can believe that.

1231
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,000
Yeah okay.

1232
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,600
The other one that I had a hard time believing was the the lacerations like anytime someone

1233
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:43,400
got cut or whatever it like healed instantly.

1234
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:48,280
Yeah because okay so it's every 30 minutes is one year right.

1235
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,600
Yes.

1236
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:56,120
So if most lacerations because most of those were pretty freaking deep would you say that

1237
01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:04,360
would probably take like at least like a month or two to heal.

1238
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,960
I don't know like if your cut is that deep how long would you say it's going to take

1239
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,580
to heal.

1240
01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:16,320
So lacerations in surgery take about two weeks to heal.

1241
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,360
Okay.

1242
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,520
So that is the equivalent of 75 seconds.

1243
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,640
Yeah that was not that.

1244
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:24,640
No not even a little bit.

1245
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,320
That was like 10 seconds tops.

1246
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,480
Hell some of them were like instant.

1247
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:30,480
Yeah.

1248
01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:34,960
Like I'm like yeah I'm calling bullshit.

1249
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,520
Yeah same here.

1250
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:41,600
Yeah so there's like a bunch of shit that I'm just like no I'm not buying it.

1251
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,520
Just like the hell Shyamalan you should have done your research more.

1252
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:47,520
Yeah right.

1253
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,480
I mean this is actually based off a book so maybe this isn't Shyamalan doing his research

1254
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:56,200
this is actually the writers author's fault for how.

1255
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:01,040
Maybe but he is credited for adapting it to a screenplay.

1256
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,480
Okay that's true.

1257
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:07,160
So he could have made the changes if he wanted to.

1258
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,000
Good point.

1259
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:19,520
I'm looking up real quick how long it would take someone to die of tetanus.

1260
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:28,680
Okay so the incubation period so time from exposure to illness is usually between 30

1261
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,240
and 21 days.

1262
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,680
Which is about 10 days.

1263
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:40,840
So that is about 50 seconds of when you would start to show symptoms.

1264
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:50,960
Okay and that one was like I mean I can give you that.

1265
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:57,440
So Charles was attacking Guy and Prisca for those of you that decided to listen to this

1266
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,880
without watching the movie.

1267
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:06,840
He was attacking them with a knife because he's like you guys are going to tattle on

1268
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:13,320
me to my boss and get me banned from being a doctor or whatever.

1269
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,560
So he was attacking them with a knife and so while he was cutting them it was like instant

1270
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:24,920
heal and I'm like that would suck but whatever.

1271
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:30,840
And then Prisca runs off and grabs like a rusty knife and then cuts him with it.

1272
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:38,120
Cuts Charles with it and then Charles dies of tetanus I'm assuming.

1273
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,480
Yeah I think that's what they said.

1274
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:47,240
So for tetanus to show symptoms it would have been 10 days.

1275
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:56,200
Which 10 days or one day is the equivalent of 5.35 seconds.

1276
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,840
And so for him to even be seeing symptoms that would have been 50 seconds.

1277
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,880
Which is somewhat believable with how long that he sat there if you're counting movie

1278
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,920
time.

1279
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,240
Okay.

1280
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,900
So yeah I'm like I can buy that.

1281
01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:20,040
But what I'm not buying is some of the other shit.

1282
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,440
The biggest one was like the broken bones.

1283
01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:26,440
So I'm like no those take like a while to set.

1284
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:28,600
Yeah exactly.

1285
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,980
And so her she was like snapping bones and they were like setting instantly and then

1286
01:25:32,980 --> 01:25:36,240
she became like super disfigured and I'm like that is disgusting.

1287
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,240
Yeah it's very very very disgusting.

1288
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:46,160
Yeah other than that I do feel like they did a pretty decent job at following their own

1289
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,160
logic.

1290
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:52,560
Yeah no I would definitely agree.

1291
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:57,360
For the most part whenever they said like oh this is why this is happening it honestly

1292
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,360
did make sense.

1293
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:02,120
And the questions that I had actually Caleb answered for me.

1294
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,640
So yeah my let's see.

1295
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:13,760
How long do you think they were on that island like Trent and Maddox.

1296
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:19,800
Like how long do you like would you have guessed.

1297
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,240
Maybe like two days and one morning.

1298
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,600
You think they were there for 48 hours.

1299
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,000
Well wait.

1300
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,000
No I'm sorry.

1301
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,520
It was one day right.

1302
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,000
Yeah sorry yeah that was one day.

1303
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:37,080
Oh yeah one day and like part of a morning.

1304
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,080
So maybe.

1305
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,160
So it's definitely 12 hours plus.

1306
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:49,280
I don't know maybe like it seemed like they got there like pretty early in the morning

1307
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:56,000
and then when they started like sailing off that was like noon ish.

1308
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,420
Yeah.

1309
01:26:57,420 --> 01:27:00,320
So maybe they were there for like 14 hours.

1310
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,800
So that would have been the exact same time plus two like just at guesstimating that they

1311
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,480
got there around 10.

1312
01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:10,120
Yeah that's actually the time that I was going to say.

1313
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:16,360
OK so if they were there for 14 hours.

1314
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:23,080
That would have aged them 28 years.

1315
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:29,240
And so when they actually get off then aren't they say that they're in their 50s.

1316
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:34,760
Yeah but Trent was six so he would have been in his 30s.

1317
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,980
He would have been like 34.

1318
01:27:37,980 --> 01:27:46,440
And then if Maddox was 11 and then Maddox would have been in her would have been almost

1319
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:49,160
40.

1320
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,960
And that's just like a guesstimate like how.

1321
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,160
So like let's say he was like.

1322
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,840
Let's say he was right and he was like in his 50s.

1323
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,960
If you divide that by two.

1324
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,560
That would have put him.

1325
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:04,560
All right.

1326
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,560
No.

1327
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,560
Hold on.

1328
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,720
Let me do this math right.

1329
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,720
So let's say he was in his 50s.

1330
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:18,360
You subtract six and then you divide that by two.

1331
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,960
So that would put him at 22 hours for him to be 50.

1332
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:24,960
OK.

1333
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:32,240
Because you have the only reason we know that he's in his 50s is because at the end they

1334
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,880
say oh you just called your aunt right.

1335
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:35,880
Yeah.

1336
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:36,880
And how does she react.

1337
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,280
Oh when you call your aunt and you say that you're fit like 50 something and you were

1338
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:47,440
six years old yesterday how would you react or some shit like that.

1339
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,340
Right.

1340
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:55,280
Which first off like why in the absolute hell would the aunt believe that.

1341
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,000
Yeah straight up.

1342
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,760
Like everyone kind of just accepted that that was true.

1343
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,760
Yeah.

1344
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:02,760
Like.

1345
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:08,520
Oh my gosh I would seriously need like a full on interrogation.

1346
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,640
Yeah I'm like I'm calling horse shit.

1347
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,640
Yeah.

1348
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,600
Listen here you little shit.

1349
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,960
I need your social security number.

1350
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,000
I need your known.

1351
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:22,280
I just need everything everything to prove.

1352
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,720
That you are my nephew.

1353
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:25,720
Yeah.

1354
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:26,720
OK.

1355
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:31,280
Like that's another thing that we we could adopt for logic which I think.

1356
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,960
70 is still fair taking that into consideration.

1357
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,960
Just the fact that everyone seemed to accept that really fast.

1358
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,000
Yeah like he shows the cop hey this is what happened.

1359
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,560
Here's the list of people that were on the island before us.

1360
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,760
Yeah I'd be like OK you have a list of names of missing people guess who's getting arrested

1361
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:55,240
buddy you are.

1362
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,040
True.

1363
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,040
That is very true.

1364
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:06,080
Like I was just like are you shitting me like come on.

1365
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,080
That's a good point.

1366
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,280
That's a very good point.

1367
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,000
Yeah so 22 hours.

1368
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:22,520
So that would have meant like if we were just guessing that he got there around 9.

1369
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,600
Like let's just yeah let's say 9 in the morning.

1370
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:27,320
OK.

1371
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,600
So plus 22 hours.

1372
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:37,120
Or so 9 to 9 is 12.

1373
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,740
Plus an additional 10.

1374
01:30:39,740 --> 01:30:44,280
So that would put him like late afternoon.

1375
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:50,520
Which I'm not buying because there were guests arriving and they usually arrived in the morning.

1376
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:55,760
OK so he must have been just like guesstimating.

1377
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,320
Which you know understandable.

1378
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:58,320
Yeah.

1379
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,360
Is that even like an amount of time.

1380
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,200
Actually now I'm not even believe it.

1381
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,280
OK let's see how old.

1382
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,600
I'm just tearing this apart.

1383
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:15,560
I want to see how old the dad is.

1384
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,120
OK so he was 42 years old.

1385
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,760
The dad.

1386
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,800
OK.

1387
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:33,000
And if he was there for let's say like 10 hours.

1388
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:37,520
So that would put him at dying at 62.

1389
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,000
Which he seemed a little young for that.

1390
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:46,960
He did and he had no as far as we know he had no underlying health conditions.

1391
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:47,960
Yeah.

1392
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,440
Yeah 62 seems young.

1393
01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:53,440
Yeah.

1394
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:54,960
OK.

1395
01:31:54,960 --> 01:32:00,720
So maybe they could have like bumped the timeline up a little bit.

1396
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:01,920
Yeah.

1397
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:10,800
But OK well then you would be messing around with like the timeline of like the baby.

1398
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:12,920
Of how long that would have taken.

1399
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:13,920
That's true.

1400
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:24,000
I'm going to look up just see if someone knows how old how long they were stuck on the island.

1401
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:30,380
Yeah I'm not seeing anything about like anyone guessing how long they were on the island.

1402
01:32:30,380 --> 01:32:39,240
So her the kids Trenton Maddox I would have guessed were in their like early 30s like mid

1403
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:40,240
40s.

1404
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,280
Yeah that would make sense.

1405
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,480
And honestly I mean the way that they looked I could I could see that.

1406
01:32:47,480 --> 01:32:48,620
Yeah.

1407
01:32:48,620 --> 01:32:52,560
So I think 50 was like just a child's guess.

1408
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:53,560
Yeah.

1409
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:54,560
So yeah.

1410
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,360
Which we're getting into like some crazy specifics here.

1411
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,520
Just a little bit just a little bit.

1412
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,800
So yeah I think overall they did a really good job of keeping like the timelines in

1413
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:08,800
check.

1414
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,320
Yes absolutely.

1415
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:17,520
But it was like injuries that I think they they went a little loosey goosey on.

1416
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,920
And what if I say that loosey goosey.

1417
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:20,920
Yeah.

1418
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,640
And I think the biggest one that they got right was the baby.

1419
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,460
And that was like the only thing that they got right.

1420
01:33:27,460 --> 01:33:33,120
Anything else like injury wise or health wise I think they.

1421
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,720
Yeah like I said they got a little loose on.

1422
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,320
Might have gotten a little ahead of themselves.

1423
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,160
Yeah I'd say that.

1424
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,360
All right.

1425
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:57,440
Personally I feel another thing that like logic wise if you guys were so concerned about

1426
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:03,960
someone like surviving this beach why the hell would you allow him to be like oh they've

1427
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:10,480
been underneath for a minute and a half like let's leave or like let's freaking bounce.

1428
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:15,040
Like you dumbass how about you wait an extra like 20 minutes.

1429
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:19,040
Yeah just to confirm.

1430
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,760
Like how like he's just like I'm ready to freaking clock out.

1431
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:27,320
Or like maybe after you've gotten the van all packed up take a second glance just to

1432
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,760
make sure you didn't miss anything.

1433
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:30,760
Right.

1434
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:34,120
Like how bad are you at your job.

1435
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,600
Like I would seriously just like look at that asshole and be like you know what.

1436
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:38,600
Fired.

1437
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:39,600
Yeah right.

1438
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,600
Seriously though.

1439
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,800
Oh they've been under a minute and a half.

1440
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:45,800
Guess what.

1441
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,840
Like people can survive that.

1442
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,920
Yeah you'd be amazed how long people can hold their breath.

1443
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,720
Yeah especially in life and death situation like that.

1444
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,720
Like come on.

1445
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:55,720
Yeah.

1446
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,720
Yeah.

1447
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:02,800
So yeah I was just like that was just complete and utter bullshit.

1448
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:03,800
Yeah.

1449
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:04,800
Yeah.

1450
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:13,160
So 78.5 I think is I'm starting to feel like that was pretty generous.

1451
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,640
Made a little bit.

1452
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:17,640
Yeah.

1453
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,680
Moving on over to effects.

1454
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,520
We gave this an 82.

1455
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,920
I'm bad.

1456
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:35,560
All of the effects that they did have like logically the injury is like bullshit but

1457
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,600
the way that they were healing up like all of that looked pretty crisp.

1458
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,640
It honestly did.

1459
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,320
Like even like them pulling out the tumor that actually looked really good.

1460
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:46,320
Very realistic.

1461
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,040
Yeah that was gross as shit though.

1462
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,040
Yeah.

1463
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,800
Very much so.

1464
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,040
I also kind of had a hard time with that.

1465
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,440
I'm like that's not how cancer works.

1466
01:35:56,440 --> 01:35:58,640
Like is it?

1467
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:05,040
I mean I honestly wouldn't know because no one I know has ever had to have their tumors

1468
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,000
like actually removed its chemo that shrunk them.

1469
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,000
Well wait no I'm sorry.

1470
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,000
That's what I thought too.

1471
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:16,560
Well I think that they can still after chemo shrinks them they will go in and remove them

1472
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:17,560
when they're smaller.

1473
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:23,880
Actually I lied I have that did happen with my mom.

1474
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,680
But as far as I know that is not exactly how a tumor gets cut out.

1475
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:29,680
Yeah.

1476
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,560
That would be a little different right?

1477
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,360
Yeah that's what I was thinking.

1478
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,280
But I mean hey any of you doctors out there let us know if we're wrong.

1479
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,960
Is this really how it works?

1480
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,400
Yeah we're probably wrong.

1481
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,400
Yeah.

1482
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:48,880
I'm trying to think of like anything else like oh I think they did a really good job

1483
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:53,040
with Crystal.

1484
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:58,320
When she like when her bones when she became like the freaking hunchback in Notre Dame

1485
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:06,680
and tried to smash the kids with the rock the way it fell it did look very rubbery.

1486
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,160
Yeah.

1487
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:14,680
But I think it was also just the shock of seeing that was a lot to deal with.

1488
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,000
I'm like okay.

1489
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,800
Yeah that's fair.

1490
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:30,200
So it was almost like they were able to disguise their issues with that with the just the brutality.

1491
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,000
Yeah.

1492
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:41,480
I really liked the I can't remember do we well no that would probably go with makeup

1493
01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:42,480
never mind.

1494
01:37:42,480 --> 01:37:45,560
What were you thinking?

1495
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:52,280
Like the like the actual oh my gosh like aging that they did on the mom and dad like with

1496
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:57,360
the wrinkles and all that stuff I feel like the makeup for that or I don't know if that

1497
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,120
was CGI it looked makeup to me.

1498
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,680
I thought that looked actually like really really good.

1499
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:10,480
Yeah I think they could have been well not really I was gonna say I feel like they could

1500
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:16,480
have been a little bit better about what that aging would have looked like but with the

1501
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:19,640
way that they I think it was the hair that threw me off.

1502
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:24,440
Yeah same hair and yeah you can't really get mad at them with that because it's already

1503
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:28,760
it's already dead so that's why it didn't change color with their aging.

1504
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,920
Yeah so that makes sense.

1505
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:42,960
It kind of seems like I thought the entirety of the beach is like with like everything

1506
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:48,800
got like aged super rapidly but it seems like it only affected like human cells because

1507
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:53,880
it didn't seem like it affected food it didn't seem like it affected metal like I thought

1508
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,400
it did with the way that they're just like oh look how rested all this stuff is I'm like

1509
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:05,720
I'm like okay well they with 73 tests like and them just kind of being out in the the

1510
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,360
open like yeah that makes sense that they'd be rusted like that.

1511
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:17,720
Yeah because I'm just assuming probably like the type of air that a saltwater ocean can

1512
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,920
give off can give off that can happen.

1513
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:28,000
Yeah so everything else like really hard to complain about much else like it.

1514
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,600
Yeah I agree.

1515
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:37,560
I think those were the biggest effects were the the hunchback snapping of the bones and

1516
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:41,320
everything like contortionist.

1517
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:48,680
But yeah so 82 I think like I said we said was pretty fair.

1518
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:49,880
Yeah.

1519
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,800
The next two I don't think we're going to have a whole lot to say about but getting

1520
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,480
into music we're sitting at a six.

1521
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:02,920
There's nothing really special here.

1522
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:08,000
I mean it's good for what it comes across on you know it's not horrible but like nothing

1523
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:13,880
really stands out it's kind of just like a bare bones basic soundtrack.

1524
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:18,460
Yeah like I absolutely agree with that one.

1525
01:40:18,460 --> 01:40:27,600
I think the like it didn't have anything like going for it like soundtrack wise which I

1526
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:34,880
mean it works for this it's just still not like super ideal.

1527
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:39,240
Like I feel like they could have done a little bit more music wise to enhance the scenes

1528
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:46,120
and I think that it just felt like the like the music was accompanying the scenes not

1529
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,560
like enhancing.

1530
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,160
Yes definitely.

1531
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:55,120
It was more it more felt like okay we need music for this stuff so like let's put something

1532
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,120
in.

1533
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:57,120
Yeah.

1534
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:02,520
Yeah so like we said sitting at a six.

1535
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:11,680
Going over to costumes nothing too memorable but I think they did a pretty decent job at

1536
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,240
giving everyone like a decent enough looking swimsuit.

1537
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:20,080
I do want to point out with the whole like the whole like aging thing and growing.

1538
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:25,840
So the shirt that Trent is wearing that's supposed to be the exact same yellow pull

1539
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,860
like button up shirt right?

1540
01:41:28,860 --> 01:41:30,160
Like his?

1541
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:31,800
I thought it was his dad's.

1542
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:33,560
That was oh that's his dad's.

1543
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,240
Yeah because it seemed like they brought a spare like a bunch of spare clothes because

1544
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,520
the mom brought a spare swimming suit.

1545
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:46,000
I'm assuming that the dad like the dad didn't wear a shirt like a lot of the time.

1546
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,000
That's true.

1547
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,000
Maybe it was just his dad's shirt.

1548
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:54,000
Yeah because I was going to say there is no way that like a shirt that's for like a teenager

1549
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:59,960
is going to fit your old man that well because like it looks like it wasn't like compressed

1550
01:41:59,960 --> 01:42:06,680
to him or not but yeah okay never mind if that was his dad's then I take away the criticism.

1551
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:16,600
Yeah and then Maddox she got put into a new suit one that like fit her a little bit better

1552
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,320
but that one I was just like even before they went to the beach I'm like that seems like

1553
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:25,000
a really big swimsuit for her.

1554
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,800
Yeah I can definitely agree with that.

1555
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:33,160
So I think they could have gotten away with not doing the switch just because of how petite

1556
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:34,160
she was.

1557
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:35,160
No that's true.

1558
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,360
That's very true.

1559
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,440
But I mean whatever like you do you.

1560
01:42:40,440 --> 01:42:45,960
Yeah exactly.

1561
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:55,560
Everyone else though like pretty again pretty bare-boned costumes so yeah no real complaints

1562
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:56,560
there.

1563
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,560
No.

1564
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:02,640
Like they weren't like terrible costumes but they weren't like super great either.

1565
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:03,640
Yes exactly.

1566
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:08,320
All right moving on over to our personal grade.

1567
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,680
Where are you sitting at?

1568
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:18,960
So overall I remember first seeing the trailer for this movie in the actual theaters.

1569
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:25,440
I forget what movie I saw it with but I'm just like damn that looks very intriguing.

1570
01:43:25,440 --> 01:43:31,240
I didn't think honestly I would be checking it out this soon but I'm glad I did.

1571
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,880
It's definitely one of M.I.

1572
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:34,880
Shyamalan's better films.

1573
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,800
I haven't seen all of his movies.

1574
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:43,400
Honestly the only ones that I've seen are The Last Airbender, Split and this movie.

1575
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,440
I've never seen Glass or Unbreakable.

1576
01:43:47,440 --> 01:43:52,280
I think that's the first movie in that trilogy.

1577
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:56,280
And I haven't seen The Happening or did he do Signs?

1578
01:43:56,280 --> 01:44:01,840
I am not familiar with his other movies.

1579
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,400
Okay there you go.

1580
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,480
So I haven't seen a lot of Shyamalan but I feel I've definitely been able to make my

1581
01:44:07,480 --> 01:44:13,440
assumption that some of his movies are good but some of them are not so great.

1582
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:18,640
The Last Ember, Airbender I feel is the lowest of the low with his films and rightfully so

1583
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,600
because it's just movies in general.

1584
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,560
That's true because he does not understand the source material at all with that compared

1585
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:26,560
to the show.

1586
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,280
It's dog shit.

1587
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,920
And that's kind of being kind honestly.

1588
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:40,360
But overall I feel this is a very, it's an enjoyable Shyamalan movie and like I was reading

1589
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:46,640
to Caleb with the critic consensus for audience, sorry audience consensus on Rotten Tomatoes

1590
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,180
for this movie.

1591
01:44:48,180 --> 01:44:50,760
They said love him or hate him.

1592
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,960
Shyamalan was kind of like the only one that could make this movie work in the way that

1593
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:58,840
it did and in a way you really can't argue with them on that.

1594
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:03,800
That is an absolute fair enough thing to say.

1595
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,840
So honestly so far for the little Shyamalan movies that I've seen this is probably my

1596
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,400
favorite one of his.

1597
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:16,260
I think I actually enjoyed this more than Split just for the idea alone.

1598
01:45:16,260 --> 01:45:21,240
So I'm going to go with 73.

1599
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,400
Nice.

1600
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:32,440
Yeah I think that the idea of this movie was a lot better than the execution.

1601
01:45:32,440 --> 01:45:37,520
If you want to talk about the story like all day long like I am so down.

1602
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:43,160
Once we start getting into like the little nitpicks I'm probably going to just kind of

1603
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:48,960
die off on my conversation because it's like, it was just like as the scores reflect their

1604
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:54,840
average like there's nothing too special about them or just this movie in general.

1605
01:45:54,840 --> 01:46:02,000
I just think that the idea behind this was really strong and really solid.

1606
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:09,120
But I had an interesting enough time with this movie.

1607
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:17,200
I might have liked it a little bit more than you did so I'm sitting at a 78.

1608
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:23,800
I'm shy of being like what I consider like an average movie which I think is like typically

1609
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:28,360
for me at an 80.

1610
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:32,840
That's like one where I'm like okay I didn't love it didn't hate it.

1611
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:38,920
But I always like I always give a little bit more bonus points for ones that at least for

1612
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:42,720
like typical movies where I'm like oh that was just like a barebone 80.

1613
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,920
Like that's usually my flat line and then like I adjust from there.

1614
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,000
Okay all right.

1615
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:57,480
But yeah so sitting at a 78 which averages us out to a 75.5.

1616
01:46:57,480 --> 01:47:00,160
It's not bad.

1617
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,740
So that concludes this breakdown.

1618
01:47:02,740 --> 01:47:13,080
So the final Albrows letter grade for old has come to a C plus.

1619
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,080
Okay yeah that's not bad at all.

1620
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,080
I like it.

1621
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,520
Yeah I like it.

1622
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:26,360
Let's see where it's sitting at like in comparison to all of our others.

1623
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:30,600
Maybe if I can freaking find it.

1624
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:38,360
All right so old is sitting at a 77.87 percent.

1625
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:47,400
Which puts it above the babysitter killer queen Wonder Woman 1984.

1626
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,640
That kind of like kills saying that but I can't argue that.

1627
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,400
Yeah right.

1628
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:57,240
It also puts it above Sam Raimi's Spider-Man.

1629
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:00,040
Okay that one kind of kills.

1630
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,640
Yeah.

1631
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:08,680
It's also above Aquaman and the strangers pray at night.

1632
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,360
Yeah yeah.

1633
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,000
Strangers that's fair.

1634
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:20,240
Yeah but it puts it below Tag.

1635
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:24,600
Also puts it below Venom let there be carnage.

1636
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:28,920
Jumanji the next level.

1637
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:33,160
Tenacious D and the pick of destiny.

1638
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,680
And Godzilla versus Kong.

1639
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:37,680
All right.

1640
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,040
So it has a good placement.

1641
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,760
Yeah I think it has a really good placement.

1642
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:54,080
Out of all of our C plus movies which we have 22 of it is sitting at 14.

1643
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,280
That's not bad.

1644
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,000
I actually thought we had more.

1645
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:03,080
Yeah I thought we did too.

1646
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:19,960
But total movies out of 150 movies it is sitting at 114.

1647
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:25,640
Okay it's also so cool that we've reached 150 movies.

1648
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:26,640
Yeah right.

1649
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,320
That's so cool.

1650
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:31,320
Hell yeah.

1651
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:34,520
So I think it has a pretty decent decent home.

1652
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,120
I think a C plus is more than fair.

1653
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,760
Yeah no honestly I agree.

1654
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:44,120
If you're a fan of Shyamalan definitely check it out.

1655
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:45,800
It's not his worst movie.

1656
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,040
It's definitely not his worst movie.

1657
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,840
Yeah I would dare say it's one of his better that I've seen.

1658
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:57,680
I honestly would like honestly I think it's so far it's my favorite one that I've seen.

1659
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,320
Like nothing against Split.

1660
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,480
I didn't love Split as much as I feel everybody else did.

1661
01:50:03,480 --> 01:50:05,480
Oh I actually forgot about Split.

1662
01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:07,720
That one actually might be my favorite.

1663
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,720
See that's completely fair.

1664
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,960
I didn't love Split as much as everybody else did.

1665
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,600
So this is probably my favorite one so far that I've seen.

1666
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,840
But I can completely understand if Split is yours.

1667
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,640
Hell yeah.

1668
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,200
So I'd say that concludes our breakdown of old.

1669
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,000
Unless there's anything you want to add.

1670
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,560
Nope I'm good.

1671
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:34,960
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1672
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,320
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1673
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,200
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1674
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:45,720
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1675
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:53,120
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1676
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:59,240
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1677
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:04,040
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1678
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:13,000
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1679
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,480
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1680
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:21,320
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1681
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:26,960
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1682
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:31,040
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1683
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:36,800
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1684
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:44,320
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1685
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:50,960
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1686
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:56,400
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1687
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:01,020
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1688
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1689
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:07,640
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1690
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:14,800
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1691
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:16,200
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1692
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,360
I don't think we have anything on TeeSpring anymore.

1693
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:19,360
We don't.

1694
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:20,360
It's just TeePublic.

1695
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:21,360
Okay sorry.

1696
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,080
So it's just TeePublic now my bad.

1697
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:28,320
So if you want to go to just strictly TeePublic it is TeePublic.com forward slash user forward

1698
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,580
slash the all bros channel.

1699
01:52:31,580 --> 01:52:38,320
So yeah next episode or next week we will be breaking down the newest MCU movie Eternals.

1700
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,880
So that's going to be freaking awesome.

1701
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:46,400
Can't wait to freaking see that and see if we agree with what the critics are saying

1702
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:53,560
right now because as it stands recording this episode it is the lowest rated MCU movie.

1703
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,400
Just so crazy to think about.

1704
01:52:55,400 --> 01:53:01,440
I am pretty sure that we are going to very much disagree with the critics on that one.

1705
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,440
Yeah.

1706
01:53:02,440 --> 01:53:05,840
No I definitely agree.

1707
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:11,440
But yeah you guys can look forward to that next week but until then this has been the

1708
01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:12,800
All Bros podcast.

1709
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:13,800
I am Jonathan.

1710
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:14,800
And I'm Caleb.

1711
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,680
And we'll see.

1712
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,400
You might want to try that again.

1713
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:21,400
Sorry.

1714
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:22,400
Deuces.

1715
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:23,400
So long.

1716
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:24,400
There we go.

1717
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:33,400
You made it to the end of the segment so please subscribe and hit that like button and for

1718
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:43,600
getting my first one, I just added a link to it.

1719
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:51,400
Because the official link is right down below it.