What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast, we will be, I think we've brought this up that we're kind of
doing away with Funko Focus.
It's kind of just going to be like, if we have a Funko Pop that we want to talk about,
we'll either like kind of bring it up like right at the beginning or we'll put it in
through the wall, right?
Yeah, pretty much.
Like it's going to have to be like a pop figure that just really blows us away for us to bring
it up.
Yeah.
And it kind of has to be in like a sweet spot of no other news coming up.
Yeah, this is true.
But yeah, I think Funko Focus is dead so we can stop bringing it up.
Yeah, so after this episode, if you guys don't hear anything more about Funko Focus, don't
be surprised.
It's dead.
So coming back, say goodbye.
So blunt.
So instead of starting off Funko Focus, we'll be starting off with our 4K spotlight.
We got a brand new title that we want to chat with you guys about that came out, what was
it, this summer, I think.
Didn't it come out this summer?
Like July or something?
It came out a little bit before Shang-Chi did, if I'm not mistaken.
Maybe like late August?
That's what I'm thinking.
Okay.
So yeah, so we'll be talking about that.
With Through the Wall, we'll be talking about some Marvel's Avengers news, as well as a
new poster that we got that doesn't really give a lot away, but there is still stuff
that we want to say.
Yeah, we rhyming on this episode.
Bloody hell.
And then after those two things with Through the Wall, we'll be moving on to our Albrose
headliner of the evening, which will be our breakdown of Marvel's Eternals.
Hells, yes.
Yeah.
So what do you say we get started, Caleb?
Say let's do it.
Oh my gosh, I'm so stupid.
I forgot.
I forgot the soundboard.
Alright, so first jumping into 4K spotlight, we have Jungle Cruise coming to 4K and Blu-ray
this week, starring Dwayne Johnson and Emily Blunt.
And both of us have yet to see this yet, but fret not, everyone, I already pre-ordered
the steelbook, so me and Caleb will be checking it out very soon.
Didn't want to worry you guys.
It's also going to be on Disney Plus in a couple days.
Well damn it.
Okay.
We'll buy it though.
So that's one of the things, I think, what is it called, Disney Plus today, they're releasing
a bunch of movies and one of the big ones is Jungle Cruise, but they're also releasing
like Shang-Chi and...
Aren't they also releasing that Home Alone movie that day?
Yeah, dude, they're releasing a bunch of shit.
But yet they won't, I know they're premiering new shows on Wednesdays, but you couldn't
have us, at least maybe like, how about on Disney Plus today you give us the first episode
of Hawkeye and then that Wednesday after you give us the second episode.
There you go, you're still on track to finish the series when you want it to.
I mean you're not wrong, but still I think they wanted to do a two episode premiere.
I know, I just really want to see Hawkeye.
Well you got what, 14 more days?
So long!
Yeah, that freaking sucks.
But anyway, so yeah, Jungle Cruise is coming to 4K, shockingly, or shocker, Best Buy is
getting the 4K steelbook, which I really like the design.
I think it looks really good, it has Emily Blunt and Dwayne Johnson along with, I think
it's Emily Blunt's brother in the movie, them on the ship, or the boat, whatever, but it's
like a wide shot, it's not close up on them, it's actually like a wide shot.
It looks super super cool, so I'm really glad that I pre-ordered it.
And then they're going to be doing a Target exclusive that, what is it again?
Because Target's doing this, starting to do this very interesting thing now with Disney
exclusives.
They come now, so they're called Art Editions, and they come with exclusive original designs
which include two limited edition foil etched prints.
So kudos to Target for switching it up and doing something different, I appreciate that.
Yeah that's super cool.
So I like the one for Jungle Cruise, I hate the one that they did for Shang-Chi.
Really?
I don't know, maybe it's just me, I'm probably just being too, maybe just because it's too
simple for me, it's literally just rings flying in the air.
Hmm.
Yeah I guess you're right there, huh?
Okay so I'm not crazy?
I mean you're still a little crazy, but not as bad.
Why, because it's Shang-Chi?
Sure.
Oh okay.
Wait.
Oh okay.
Sorry, nevermind.
Dude for a second I thought they had like a different, they had like two steel books
for Shang-Chi and I was just like, wait where the hell is the second one going?
But no, it's still just one.
Nice.
But yeah so Jungle Cruise is coming to 4k, that's really it, a couple of Mad Max films
are also coming to 4k this week along with actually Candyman, the remake, is coming out.
Then I think that's it.
Oh I gotta touch upon this, one of my favorite Christmas movies and I don't care who hates
this film, it's coming to Blu-ray finally.
Christmas with the Cranks, it's coming out this Tuesday and I am so buying it.
Frickin' love that movie.
I am so excited.
So have you seen it?
Is that like a not well liked Christmas movie?
No it's not, so many people hate it.
Have you seen it?
Um, the name sounds familiar, let me just figure that out.
Um, no, I don't think I have.
Really?
Okay, alright.
Well if it comes with the digital code, I don't think it does.
I'll send it to you, but I think it's on a streaming platform somewhere.
Cool.
I'll have to make that one a movie night.
Hell yeah, I'm down.
I wanna see if someone else actually likes this movie.
You know what, now that this movie is coming to Blu-ray, they just need to put unaccompanied
minors on Blu-ray.
Oh my gosh, that movie sucked.
And then some of my favorite Christmas...
Screw you bro.
I loved that movie as a kid.
Now I'm questioning whether or not I'm actually gonna watch Christmas so that the cranks with
you then.
Oh, oh, because my taste is that bad since I actually like unaccompanied minors?
Your taste in holiday film is questionable.
Hey, I hate Home Alone 3, well actually yeah that's true, because you hate Home Alone 3
and I like Home Alone 3.
Oh my god.
Then didn't you have like a hard...
Wait, was it you?
Someone didn't like Elf.
Was it you?
No, I love him.
Dude, we reviewed Elf.
I know, but I don't remember if he...
No I loved Elf.
I think I might...
I wanna say it's Vic that didn't like Elf.
Yeah, it was either Vic or DJ, but I think it was Vic.
My money's on Vic.
Yeah.
So, I do have good taste in some Christmas movies.
Some.
Hey, everyone has those like Christmas movies that everyone else thinks is like complete
dog shit, but you love.
Don't you have some?
I don't know.
I'll be 100% real.
I feel like I'm a little bit of a Scrooge, but not in like I'm putting down everyone
else's holiday spirit.
It's just I don't really have any of my own.
No, that's...I get it.
Like, I love...I like setting up for Christmas.
Actually, no, I actually dragged my feet on setting up for Christmas.
I...oh my gosh, I'm a freaking Scrooge.
I'm like I always...I put it off Christmas decorating until the day after Thanksgiving.
Dude, if it makes you feel any better when it comes to like seeing people like...and
this is like nothing against like you and Brielle, but when I like see people, you know,
like walking down the street, there's like Christmas lights, you see like mistletoe holding
hands kissing.
I'm just like, oh, get a room.
Screw you guys.
Thanks for making me feel lonely.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know.
It's...yeah, I feel like I'm a bit of a Scrooge when it comes to the holidays.
Like...
Honestly, dude, like working in like the grocery business, Christmas music and Christmas movies
are like I feel like the only way that I can kind of get into the Christmas spirit because
when I go back to work, literally dealing with customers just kind of brings it back
down for you.
I mean, that's fair.
But yeah, it's the only thing that brings joy during the Christmas season for me.
I kind of have to force myself to watch Christmas movies.
Oh, that makes me sad.
Yeah, like I kind of have to be like super into in the Christmas mood and I know that
I'm not...I'm not very often.
And yet I'm the guy that starts listening to Christmas music November 1st.
Yeah.
We are an odd duo.
We really are.
Like we went freaking like hog wild for Christmas or for Halloween last year where we did nothing
but horror movies.
This one just kind of got away with us from us because we had like so many different movies
that we wanted to do.
Yeah, that's true.
So it's kind of hard to throw one in.
I don't know if the Matrix movies can technically be considered holiday movies.
They're not.
But that's what our December is going to look like.
Hey, you know what?
It works, you know, since Matrix 4 is coming out.
So it works perfectly.
Yeah.
And then yeah, we're not very Christmasy.
Like we even dropped the ball.
Like we did some holiday movies last year, but we kind of dropped the ball on anything
holiday related this year.
We'll get you guys next year.
Yeah.
But yeah, so that's just coming out on 4K this week.
And you know, honestly, after I show Caleb Christmas with the Cranks, we're going to
come back here and give you guys our quick reaction.
I'm actually very interested to hear it now, considering he hates unaccompanied miners.
Oh, shit.
That's funny.
Oh, man.
Anyway, moving on to through the wall.
No, it's not Insomniac.
Nope.
No, they created a good spot.
They created a good superhero game.
Yeah, and they have a couple more coming out.
Well, OK, in Square Enix's defense, I've actually heard Guardians of the Galaxy is actually
very fun.
I've heard it's a very good solo game.
It freaking better be.
It's freaking better.
It's actually getting like one of the biggest positive people have said it showcases how
much fun a single player, no add ons, no like internet connection, shit like that.
Just single player story driven game can be how much fun that can be still.
Dude, I've been you're preaching to the freaking choir.
That is like the majority of games that I play are so not our single player.
Story based games.
Yeah.
So Guardians will be perfect for you.
It better be, dude.
I don't know if I could take another Marvel's Avengers.
Yeah, you and me both.
Speaking of Marvel's Avengers, they have finally showcased what Spider-Man is going to look
like when he drops, I'm assuming sometime next year.
Did they say when he's dropping next year?
No.
Of course they didn't.
OK, hold on.
I don't know if this really stuff.
OK, so they just actually he just got announced today.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
So he would his in game debut on November 30th.
Wait what?
Yeah.
That soon?
Yeah.
He is.
Yeah, he's going to be debuting on November 30th.
And he or there'll be an in game trailer tomorrow.
Oh shit.
Dude, I didn't think we were going to see Spidey until next year.
No, they announced it or they said they were going to release Spidey by the end of this
year when the freaking game came out.
Well, OK, kudos to you Square Enix for keeping your promise.
Yeah, they've been really good about that.
It's actually like perfect timing with like no way home coming out.
Right?
Yeah, that is perfect.
Damn kudos to you Square Enix.
Yeah, IGN is going to get their in game trailer tomorrow.
Shocker, IGN gets it first.
Yeah, so super excited for that.
I can't wait to see what his gameplay looks like.
Yeah, I'm very interested to see how the swinging is going to be.
I'm really hoping they take at least some tips from Insomniac's web swinging.
Yeah, but I don't know how that's going to translate because like, yeah, it's not.
Yeah, that's one thing.
It's not open world.
Also, you can't do the triggers because the triggers are are aiming and firing.
Damn it.
So like with cap, like you can aim the shield and you can toss the shield with Spider-Man.
I'm pretty sure it's just going to be like aiming webs or something.
Yeah.
So who knows what web swinging is going to look like?
Oh, this is going to be interesting.
Yeah, so that trailer is going to give us a lot of insight.
So we'll probably be talking about it next week.
Yeah.
So I told Caleb after I play as Spidey, I'll just mail him my copy so he can enjoy Spidey
too.
Yeah, I don't even know where the where the PlayStation 4 is.
Dude, what the hell?
Well, I've been playing on my Xbox.
Traitor.
But the suit that they like, I was afraid that they were going to freaking butcher the
suit and by butcher the suit, I mean, make it like all armored, like kind of what they
did with everyone else's costumes in this, especially caps, like they ruined caps costume.
I mean, they didn't do it with both Hawkeyes.
Or were Widow.
Okay, well, Rely.
Well I'm just saying you said like all these characters got well, okay, wait, no, Widow
does get armored at the end.
Never mind.
Yeah.
Okay, so just the two Hawkeyes.
Yeah, okay, Hawkeye looks good.
Kate Bishop looks good.
Thor looks questionable, but cool enough.
I think what really screwed Thor was the hammer.
Like it doesn't look anything like any of the other like renditions of Mjolnir.
It looks so wildly different.
Seems like it's a little too bulky, doesn't it?
Mjolnir?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's way bulky.
I don't know, like I get it, you know, Mjolnir supposed to be big, but not that big.
Yeah, right.
I... all of my issues with like the game and like you can hear our breakdown of it for
episode 150.
Costume wise, I just, they just dropped the ball.
Like Iron Man's face looks weird.
Yeah.
Like it's just, I don't even know how to explain it.
It's like too sleek.
Did you see though that they finally, and like I've been so tempted to buy it, but like
I don't play the game enough.
They actually dropped like the Iron Man suit from the first Iron Man movie.
Did they really?
They did.
And it looks so good.
Ooh.
Tempting, but nah.
I don't know.
Iron Man is one of the last characters that I don't have an MCU suit for because I bought
the Ronin suit.
I bought the Black Widow white suit.
I freaking bought cap suit.
So the only ones I don't have, I don't really want to buy Endgame's Thor.
Nothing against it.
Just, I don't know.
Yeah.
Did they change his weapon in that?
I don't think they did.
I think he still has Mjolnir.
Like the bulky one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, he doesn't have Stormbreaker.
And then...
I would have even accepted if they did like normal Mjolnir.
Fair.
I don't really feel like getting Spandex Hulk.
No, Spandex Hulk is garbage.
Yeah.
But they freaking killed it with Spidey.
He kind of has that...
He kind of has the MCU lenses, which look pretty good.
And then it's just classic Spidey.
The spider on his chest though looks a little weird.
It's almost like they would try to go with like a realistic looking spider legs.
I don't know how I feel about that.
Yeah.
But, I mean, it works.
Like the spider logo is big and prominent, which I really like.
It's just maybe the design is just a bit off.
But I think the spider is so hard to do or to do something new with.
You know what?
Fair enough.
Like, it's the spider that freaking distinguishes the costumes in a lot of ways.
Like Tobin McGuire's spider is way different than Andrew Garfield's.
Andrew Garfield's is wildly different than Tom Holland's.
And all of theirs is different from the PS4.
I feel it's so difficult to do a new spider.
No, no.
I absolutely agree.
So I mean, I don't hate it.
It looks alright.
But it looks super cool.
His gloves too look really sick.
They kind of have like, I'm assuming it's just on the fingers that he has out.
Like his index, pinky, and thumb are covered in like a black...
I'm assuming it's black.
It might be blue just based off of shading.
But it looks like it's black fabric with the red fabric going around the fingers.
Like around the back of the fingers.
So it kind of adds like a nice palm effect.
But I'm digging it.
I'm digging it a lot.
You know, I was telling Caleb this earlier, me and my buddy Jace who were discussing this,
it's kind of hard to mess up Spidey's costume.
Even if you hate it, it still feels like Spider-Man.
Yeah, it very much does.
Sorry, I kind of got distracted with his eyes.
Are you looking at his picture?
I had it pulled up.
There it is.
Do you feel they're like too prominent on the mask?
No.
I was just looking at the lenses and the lenses, maybe it's just the lighting.
But his left eye looks weird.
Almost like it's round inside.
I think like you said, it's the lighting and maybe just like the positioning of where he
is in the photo.
I think tomorrow, since he said we're getting an in-game trailer of him, we'll be able to
get a full look at what it truly looks like.
Okay.
Yeah, I'll give it benefit of the doubt until tomorrow.
I'm interested to see if they show off any more costumes.
Like of Spidey's or like any?
Of Spidey's.
Oh, okay.
Because they've done MCU accurate costumes for everyone, including Black Panther.
Yeah, that's true.
So it'll be cool to see if they go that route, like do a homecoming suit or a far from home
suit or no way home.
I feel that I have a feeling they're probably going to do no way home just because Insomniac
Spider-Man has already done the homecoming and far from home suits.
So I think that they kind of want to be a little different.
That's fair.
Like get people, draw people into playing this version of Spidey.
Yeah.
I have a feeling though, and it may be, but I feel like one of my spider sense is tingling
and I have a feeling that one of the superpowers that you get or like one of the ultimate powers
that you can use is going to be those, the freaking spider arms coming out of the back.
I don't hate that, but at the same time, that's not really Spider-Man, is it?
Yeah.
Like it's very suit specific.
Yeah.
That's one thing.
That's like kind of getting into the like no way home.
I think the Stark armor was cool with the legs and everything.
They should have stopped.
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
I mean, I don't know.
I think it looks a little better in the trailer than it did in a far from home, but the suit
I feel looked the greatest in Infinity War.
Like the CGI on the suit looked really good in that one, but in far from home, oh, the
CGI did not look good on that suit.
Tom Holland's head looked way too freaking small compared to the actual body of the Iron
Spider suit.
Yeah.
But I'm just not a big fan of the Iron Spider suit in general.
I much prefer the fabric suit.
I do too.
I mean, seriously, he made the, he freaking made the far from home suit at the end.
So why isn't he using that one?
He freaking made it.
Okay, not made it, but like he was the one that designed it was Stark tech.
Yeah.
I hope they do better, but I'm really excited to see the trailer tomorrow for Spider-Man.
Same here.
Yeah, they're kind of sticking with the Spider-Man.
Yeah.
Moving on to some more Spidey news.
They released the official poster for Spider-Man No Way Home and it's simple, but it does have
some very good Easter eggs.
One, it's, well, it's just Spidey and kind of like a crouched pose with Doc Ock's arms
all going around the whole entire scene.
But if you look in the, towards the right, all the way in the background, you can actually
see green goblin flying on his glider.
Hell yes.
So that, that basically just proves that it is Willem Dafoe's green goblin.
It's not like it's not a new design.
It's nothing like that.
It is the goblin that we had in the original Spider-Man movie.
Hell yeah.
Costumed a little bit different though.
I didn't make up on that.
Slightly different.
At least if the, if the leaked images are to be believed, he's actually has like a scarf.
Oh yeah.
I've seen, isn't it purple?
Yeah, it's like a purple scarf and then he has like a satchel and stuff now, or not a
satchel, like a harness.
See I can appreciate like those additions because it's making it more comic book accurate.
Yeah, even in its own little way.
Yeah.
Like I think the green goblin suit concept in general is a little difficult to, to bring
into live action.
So I feel, I feel like Sam Raimi did the best job that he could adapting the green goblin
for big screen.
I agree.
I know like everyone says, Oh my God, he looks like a green Power Ranger.
I don't care.
I'm actually okay with that.
I still love the green goblin suit.
Yeah.
Like how else do you do that though?
Yeah, it's hard.
Like, and I've seen the concepts.
Like I've seen the concepts that they were playing with on that.
Their damn, the fricking mouth.
What am I saying?
No, like one of the original concepts they were doing, they were going to do an animatronic
face for the green goblin and it looked so funky.
I'm like, that wouldn't have worked at all, especially with how like a grounded, um, Toby
McGuire, Spider-Man felt.
And then, yeah.
And so they were playing with like a bunch of different ideas.
The only thing that I feel that they could have done is maybe actually that probably
would have looked stupid too.
I was going to say like, just take off the mouthpiece.
So it's just Willem Dafoe's mouth, but like you could still like paint it green or something.
But yeah, that would have looked dumb.
For how much the mask kind of like sticks out.
Yeah, I don't know if that would have worked.
Yeah.
Or maybe just make it a little bit more flush with his face then.
So it didn't, it wouldn't have felt like so bulky or like, like you said, Power Ranger
esque, but I think that would have looked dumb too.
So I'd be interested to see it in action.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm, I just want to see the helmet.
Yeah.
You and me, but I'm just, I'm just so happy to see my two favorite Spider-Man villains
of all time back on the big screen again.
This makes me so freaking happy.
Right?
Dude, I'm going to be pissed off if Doc Ock doesn't have a very significant role in this
movie.
I thought they confirmed that he's like the main baddie of the movie.
Ah, good.
I was going to say this, this, if they're going to like tease all of these other villains,
like that's going to be such bullshit.
Like, Oh, consider Doc Ock is only going to be in like this much of it.
Like, eh, considering like how early on Alfred Molino cat Molina, sorry, uh, said that he
was playing Doc Ock again and like how much they've just been hyping up his role.
I honestly would be very shocked if he wasn't a very prominent role.
I I'm pretty sure Tom Holland said, or I don't know where I heard it from, but yeah, he is
the, he is the main villain of this movie.
Good.
There's been a lot of shit coming from him lately.
Like just talking, like one of the biggest things is he's talking about the relationship
that he has with, um, Dr. Strange now.
And he says they don't really become enemies, but they're not really friends at the end.
Oh shit.
And I'm like, Ooh, damn, there's gonna be some tension.
Seriously.
But I've heard so much fricking stuff about the, the second trailer or like the much rumored.
What I've heard is what's keeping them from posting it.
And I don't know if this is true because I don't believe I literally don't believe that
dude, we don't know if any of this shit is true.
We don't, I'm not even a hundred percent convinced this is the official poster.
You know what?
Yeah, we're so, yeah, he's so right.
But apparently the reason why they keep, they are holding.
There's two reasons why they're holding back the second trailer.
One is Kevin Feige and Sony can decide when they want to showcase, uh, sorry.
They can decide if they want to showcase that Andrew Garfield and Toad Maguire are in this
movie in the trailer.
Oh my gosh, just do it already.
And the second one, which I feel is more, uh, more what's the word?
Not liable.
Um, more likely is the fact that, and this actually has been proven that the Sony VFX
team is on such a time crunch with this film.
They're working seven days a week just to get the special effects done to make the December
17th release that they don't have time to put the finishing touches on the second trailer.
They don't have time to do that shit that I'm calling bullshit on.
I don't know for how much, like they, so the visual effects studios are the ones that put
the trailers together.
I thought they send their footage to like a marketing team.
Uh, well, I mean like the actual, like, no, they do, but I mean like the actual, like,
uh, like effects in the trailer, like the special effects, like, you know, like Doc
Ox arms, like green goblin on his glider.
Apparently they haven't been, what they want them to do with the trailer.
They haven't been able to finish those special effects yet.
And they're kind of just like, well, you want us to finish this movie by December 17th,
but you also still want us to do these effects for the trailer.
You guys kind of gotta work with us here.
That's why I think a lot of the stuff we've seen in the trailer is bullshit.
Yeah.
Because they, you have to think with infinity war, we got teased that there was going to
be like an Avenger style, like charging scene that we didn't get with the Hulk.
That's yeah, that's true.
So they had to freaking render a, a movie quality scene that wasn't even in the freaking
movie.
Okay.
If that's the case, I'm going to be pissed if Doc Ock doesn't come out of a cloud of
smoke and say hello, Peter.
Yeah.
I'm gonna be freaking pissed if that scene's not in the movie.
Dude, it's just, it's.
It's the one thing that I don't like about Marvel with these like big pictures.
Like I hate the secrecy.
Yeah.
Like what I love about one of the biggest things I loved was with the suicide squad.
I loved how involved I felt in that.
Like James Gunn was posting behind the scenes pictures like every other week.
Like Hey, check out this person's costume.
Hey, check out this person's costume.
Check out this behind the scene clip.
Like it felt so good to like feel like I was a part of the process and I still enjoyed
the hell out of the movie.
Even though like I, it like satisfied me enough to not look so far into like what's going
to happen in this movie.
I'm like, I don't even care.
Like I get these little snippets from the director himself.
Like they're, I think Marvel is just making the biggest mistake of letting everyone get
so hyped up over something that may or may not be true.
Like just clue us in to some of the behind the scenes stuff.
Like Kit Harrington who plays a Dane in Eternals.
He came out and said when he first signed on to be in Eternals, he was very shocked
to hear or like he was just very shocked to actually like witness firsthand how much actors
are sworn to secrecy with Marvel movies compared to how it was with Warner Brothers and oh
my gosh, Game of Thrones.
He said it's completely different.
Yeah, apparently they have a freaking system in place where you don't even get the script
until the day before.
Yeah, like kind of going off of that freaking with the scene in Endgame when it's Tony Stark's
funeral, they were told before they started filming, oh, it's a wedding.
Dude, it's just like with, okay, with Endgame, I get it.
With Spider-Man, like come on, this is the birth of a new phase of the MCU or like a
key moment in it.
What could you possibly spoil?
Yeah, that's true.
That's very true.
Like I'm going to have like I'm going to be more pissed off about spoilers later down
the line.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
Yeah, but like right now, it's like, get me excited for this.
I'm not like it's so hard to want to get excited about this because you're just like, oh, Marvel's
freaking got a sniper on everyone.
Like that's going to.
No, no, you're absolutely right.
Kind of spoil it.
I mean, I like with.
I don't know, like with it's weird because with all of the face for Marvel movies, I've
been like different types of hyped like Black Widow.
I was super hyped because, you know, Black Widow was finally getting a solo movie.
I was freaking over the moon.
I was so excited.
Shang-Chi, you know, I was kind of on the fence.
I didn't really know what to expect.
I knew nothing about the character and I felt like they weren't giving me a lot of the story
in the trailer, so I really didn't know what to expect and I ended up ended up loving it.
The Eternals, which I'm not going to say anything yet because that's what we're reviewing this
episode.
I've been hyped from for that since the frickin first trailer.
Honestly, if I'm being honest, Eternals was my most hyped phase four phase four movie
this year.
But then with Spider-Man No Way Home, I feel that was just kind of like a brainer, that
like no brainer that once frickin they announced that Doc Ock was going to be in it and especially
in the trailer, you see frickin Green Goblin's pumpkin bomb flying out of one of the portals
or not portal, I'm sorry.
You see it being thrown out of a cloud of dust.
I was already sold just by that moment alone, but I absolutely agree with Caleb that they're
really not giving us a lot to work with.
They're really still trying to keep it as secret as they can when this really isn't
like an Avengers end game kind of situation where it's just like, oh yeah, don't spoil
literally anything because we want everything to be able to be seen in the actual film.
If you spoil a couple of things, little things in Spider-Man No Way Home, I'm not going to
be mad because for how many frickin leaks that these has been leaked for this movie,
I don't even know what to frickin believe.
So honestly, probably whatever you release Marvel, I probably won't even frickin believe
until I actually see the damn movie.
Yeah, that's that's what I hated about the marketing for Infinity War.
They made it seem like Hulk was going to be such a big part of the movie.
He wasn't even in it.
Yeah.
Yeah, what, like less than five minutes of screen time?
Yeah.
The rest was all banner.
Yeah.
And then it's like this movie, like it's so hard to get excited because at a certain point,
you're just like, OK, I believe what I'm seeing because now it becomes a theory of like, oh,
what are we going to see with this?
What are we going to see with that?
And I get it.
Like, I understand like hiding maybe end credits scenes or like big twists or plots or whatever.
But for a majority of it, it's just it's just ridiculous overkill.
Yeah.
I feel bad, though, with Marvel, with the end credits scene to Eternals, because just
for one, the one reason that when this first premiered, when it had to premiere, they didn't
even attach the end credits scene or the credits.
Literally after the final shot, movie was over.
No credits whatsoever because they didn't want to take any chances.
But yet somehow, I think even before the movie actually had its worldwide premiere, the freaking
end credits scene still got leaked.
Like yeah, it's like, OK, who cares?
At that point, it's so early on.
Like I understand how.
Like doing like you said, with Avengers level stuff, big team up movies like Multiverse
of Madness, I have no idea what to expect for that movie.
Yeah.
And it's like it's the same with this.
Like I have an idea of what we can expect.
Like we can expect Doc Ock, we can expect Green Goblin, we can expect these other people.
And then it's like you're going to like tease us with all this stuff.
Just freaking release a poster with all three of them already.
Yeah, dude, like straight up.
Like it pisses me off.
It's just like, OK, like like we get it.
Like come on, like just give us the.
It's aggravating.
It is honestly so aggravating.
Like it's because I feel like.
Everyone like throws a big old fit about like, oh, how secretive or how in the dark everyone
is.
It becomes like more intriguing on getting that behind the scenes info or those leaks
or whatever.
Like if you have the attitude that like Warner Brothers had with James Gunn's Suicide Squad,
he was just posting whatever the hell he wanted.
He's just like, oh, we're filming this.
We're filming that.
We didn't know what to expect with a lot of the movie still.
Yeah, I mean.
Spider-Man, like I some I somewhat get it, but I at the same time I don't.
I feel with the Suicide Squad, they really just wanted to try to get as much press about
that film because the original was hated so much.
So they wanted to showcase like, hey, we promise this one is an actual good hands.
We really think you're going to like this one.
Whereas with Spider-Man, No Way Home.
It's directed by the same director that directed Homecoming and Far From Home.
You're bringing in all of these previous actors that have played these characters before.
So this is already established.
Once like no matter if like no one's no matter if one person never saw the trailer or the
poster, if you just told them, hey, you know, you want to see the new Spider-Man film, it
has Doc Ock and Green Goblin coming back.
Be sold.
I wouldn't need to see the poster or trailer.
So I think like I get it with Spider-Man for why you want to keep it so secret.
But like, can you just give us like, I don't know what to expect from this movie.
I don't know what to look forward to.
Like you got I need to kind of understand what the story is going to be.
And they kind of did that in the first trailer.
But still, I don't know what exactly the story is going to be when I see this on opening
night.
Yeah.
Which, I mean, it's good.
But it's like that I think they're just playing so hard into the, oh, everyone's just going
to go see this.
Like they're just they're banking on that so freaking hard.
Whereas other movies, they need to kind of give away a lot of the plot or a lot of the
story idea to sell people on the idea of the movie.
And so I think Marvel's just like, oh, well, these bastards are going to see Spider-Man
and just come running.
Which is absolutely true.
But are they wrong, though?
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I just like feeling involved.
No, I agree.
And like, you know, I'm sure people would say, well, you guys are just like, you know,
you're just complaining about Marvel.
You just you're too spoiled by other stuff.
And no, that's not the case.
We just want to actually know what we're going to be walking into.
We don't want anything spoiled.
But we we just actually want to understand the story that is going to be told to us and
not be in the complete dark with it.
Yeah.
And it's just like, even if someone spoiled the entire frickin movie for me, I'm still
going to go see it.
Fair.
I'll admit, though, with Eternals, if someone would have spoiled like certain aspects about
it, I would have been so frickin pissed.
And we'll get to it.
OK.
Fair.
But yeah, we'll get into it.
But I don't know.
I like how hard like how hard would it be to keep that a secret, though?
Like if you were to just.
I'm trying really hard not to to spoil anything.
Eternals.
OK, if for those of you that have seen Eternals, I'm going to try really hard not to give anything
away.
But you guys will know what I'm talking about.
If they would have just taken like some still shots of the behind the scenes or whatever
of everything that happened, I still would have not been able to guess.
What went down?
I would agree.
Because there I can't really.
How do you not spoil this?
I think it's going to be too difficult.
We just like not.
Yeah, I'll yeah, I'll save it for the review.
Yeah, but it's just like little things like, OK, if there's a big twist that you're wanting
to keep from us, like, yeah, keep that away from us.
Like we don't want to know that.
Biggest twist.
Green Goblin is Doc Ock and Doc Ock is actually Green Goblin.
Biggest twist ever.
Yeah, it's like those big twists.
Yes, absolutely.
Keep those hidden from us.
But no one's going to like know what that shit is from behind the scenes pictures.
Yeah, like we can guess all freaking day long.
But it's like I would just strategically release information like, oh, people are like, I just
pay attention to social media and be like, oh, there's a lot of buzz catching up or getting
behind this plot twist.
Better release something else to basically distract, like dangle some shiny keys in front
of their faces.
So they're like, what's that?
No, that's a good point.
Like kind of going off Marvel into Ghostbusters, like they actually released, I think, like
the final trailer that actually has the original guys in it.
I didn't watch it and I don't plan to because I don't want that to be spoiled yet for me.
I want to actually see that in the movie.
But for those that still aren't yet sold for this on Ghostbusters Afterlife and actually
want to see the original three, rest in peace here, Oremis, before like see the actual original
three back together again before they see the movie.
And that's what sells them.
That's freaking great.
Kudos to them for that.
The kudos for them.
Kudos to them for deciding that, oh, that could be a push point for some people to actually
go see this movie.
Yeah.
Have you seen the final trailer for Ghostbusters Afterlife?
I have.
And it's not like you don't see faces or anything.
Like you seriously just see someone step into screen.
Oh, OK.
Which if spoilers are to be believed about Spider-Man Far or No Way Home, that is exactly
what happens with the second trailer.
They do not show faces.
But Dr. Strange apparently, it's so hard because you don't want to spoil anything, but you
don't want to.
You don't know what to believe.
But someone posted this thing about what basically describing the entirety of the second trailer.
And they said at the very end of the trailer, Dr. Strange, Terrence Peter, and says, hey,
we're going to need some extra hands or some extra help.
And then from a dark room, two people walk in.
And I'm like, really?
That's dumb.
Just confirm it already, you assholes.
And honestly, shouldn't they be like not just walking out of a dark room?
Shouldn't they make it more bigger than that?
They both jump out of portals?
I don't know.
If you are actually bringing back Topin McGuire and Andrew Garfield, you got to make a freaking
big deal out of it.
Because if that is the case, that is a really big freaking deal to have three Spider-Men
on the same freaking screen together.
OK.
But this is the way that I imagine the scene playing out, if that's what they do.
This is my description of what it would be like in the movie.
I would say Peter is getting his Tom Holland is getting his.
I was going to say which Peter.
We got Peter A, B, and C.
Yeah.
So the way that I see it going in my mind, if that's the way that they do the reveal,
is Tom Holland is getting his ass handed to him by all these villains.
He goes to Dr. Strange for help and he pulls this whole like, OK, yeah, we need some extra
hands on deck.
And then from a back room that's all dark, you hear footsteps and then Tom Holland turns
around, looks at the doorway and then you see Tobey Maguire walking out like that from
in the center of this like dark hallway unmasked in his full in his full Spider-Man suit.
And then you see our Andrew Garfield like kind of come out from behind him and off to
the side a little bit.
That's what I imagine that scene looking like.
And I'm like, that would be dope.
Oh yeah, that would be pretty dope.
Like I think it would just feel too much like Endgame where Spider-Man comes like swinging
out in like superhero pose and all that.
All well and good.
I mean, fricking nerd boner for days.
Days?
Fricking weeks.
For Vake it would be months.
For months?
I'm just kidding, Vake.
I love you.
They need to have like a warning at the end of Marvel movies like if you have an erection
for longer than four days, you're welcome.
When you say promo audio.
That was amazing.
Oh man.
Anyway, you got anything else you want to say about Spider-Man no way home?
Nope.
That's the perfect thing to leave on.
No I'm good.
I'm excited.
I'm excited to see what more they do.
If they actually give us any more we'll see.
This is total like side note, but you remember what they did with the Amazing Spider-Man
2?
You know, how they released three posters and you could put them all together to make
one image.
Oh yeah, dude that was so badass.
That's what someone thinks they're going to do with this poster.
Ooh, okay.
I mean, I would love to see that.
I don't know if that's the route they're going to go though.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it'd be cool.
That would be super cool.
Total side note.
No, dude, that's super cool.
I love the one studios do that.
Right?
Well, that's all we got with Through the Wall.
So what do you say we move into our headliner, Caleb?
I say let's do it.
All right.
So for this week's All Bros headliner, we'll be breaking down Marvel's newest film, Eternal
Souls, starring a shit ton of people.
Oh yeah.
It's all I'm going to say.
But before we actually get into our thoughts of the film, Caleb, would you like to share
how we break down films on this podcast?
Did I just say podcast?
What the hell?
What is wrong with me?
Yeah.
Never saying that again.
Yeah.
So if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different
categories that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.
All of that magic gets added up together and gives us a percentage and a letter grade for
the movie.
So if you have not seen this movie, spoiler alert ahead, like massive spoiler alert, Rose
is about to spoil the entire freaking movie for you in our favorite segment we like to
call Leaping the Throats.
There's no turning back in 10 seconds.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know what?
Sam approached me at work about the whole reading with Rose and like how bad I was with
Dune and I'm just like, hey, Caleb straight up said that he couldn't do any better.
So you got to have those names were hard.
Those things were super hard.
I mean, not like the names names because like we had what freaking Johnny Idaho or something
like Duncan Idaho and Paul, but like all the last names in the planet names were freaking
difficult.
Yeah.
But yet I can easily pronounce the eternal's names.
I mean, they're not that difficult to name.
They're not.
But all right, so in 5,000 BC, 10 super powered eternals, Ajak, Cersei, Icarus, Kingo, Sprite,
Thastos, Makkari, Druig, Gilgamesh, and Thena are sent by the Celestial Arshum to Earth
to exterminate the invasive Deviants.
Over the millennia, they protect humanity from the Deviants, but are not allowed to
interfere in human affairs.
They kill the last of the Deviants in 1521 and the group's opinions differ about their
continued responsibilities and their relationship with humankind.
Over the next 500 years, they mostly live apart from each other awaiting Arshum's return.
In the present day, Cersei and Sprite live together in London.
After Cersei was left by her partner Icarus over 500 years earlier, she now has a relationship
with human Dane Whitman, who works at the Natural History Museum.
The trio is attacked by the Deviant Crow, with Icarus arriving and chasing the creature
away.
Realizing the Deviants have returned, they prepare to reunite with the remaining Eternals.
They travel to South Dakota only to find that Ajak, their leader, had been killed by Crow,
gaining her healing abilities as a result.
Cersei is poshumusly chosen by Ajak as her successor, granting her the ability to communicate
with Arshum, who reveals that the mission of the Eternals was not to fight the Deviants,
but to prepare Earth for the emergence.
Arshum explains that for millions of years, the Celestials have been planting their seeds
on populated planets for new Celestials to be born, with the Deviants sent by them to
destroy the apex predators of each planet to ensure the development of life.
However, when the Deviants evolved and began hunting the planet's native populations,
the Celestials created the Eternals to cull them.
With the reversal of the blip, Earth has reached the necessary population for the birth of
the Celestial Tiamat, which will result in the Earth's destruction.
Having learned to love humanity, the Eternals reassemble and decide to prevent the emergence.
They reconvene with Kingo, Fina, and Gilgamesh before heading to Druig's residence in the
Amazon Rainforest, where they are attacked by Crow and Deviants.
Crow kills and feeds on Gilgamesh, gaining a fully humanoid form and the ability to speak
before fleeing.
After creating Gilgamesh, they visit Fastos, who proposes for Druig to put Tiamat to sleep
using his mind control powers amplified by the Unimind, a connection between all the
Eternals.
Icarus reveals he was informed of the emergence by Ajax centuries before and fed her to the
Deviants six days prior to prevent her from stopping it.
He flees along with Sprite, who is in love with Icarus but feels he'll never love her
due to her internal childlike form.
Kingo also leaves the group, as he does not wish to face Arasham, Icarus, or Sprite.
After Makkari locates the place of the emergence, the foot of an active volcano in the Indian
Ocean, the Eternals battle Icarus and Sprite before being attacked by Crow, who is killed
by Fina.
Druig knocks out Sprite after she attempts to kill Cersei, and the remaining Eternals
work together to subdue Icarus while Fastos activates the Unimind.
Icarus breaks free of his restraints and approaches Cersei to kill her, but finds himself unable
due to his love for her.
Cersei uses her matter transmutation abilities to turn Tiamat to marble.
Guilt-ridden, Icarus flies into the sun.
Cersei then uses the remainder of the energy from the Unimind to turn Sprite into a human,
ending her immortality.
Fina, Druig, and Makkari depart on their spaceship, the Domo, to find other Eternals while Cersei,
Fastos, Kingo, and Sprite remain on Earth.
Dain professes his love for Cersei and is about to reveal a secret about his family
history when she, along with Fastos and Kingo, are remotely dragged into space by Arasham
in full view of all of the people of Earth.
Arasham states that he is displeased with their treason, but elects to spare humanity
if the Eternals' memories show that humans are worthy of living.
He vows to return for judgment before disappearing into a singularity, taking them with him.
In a mid-credit scene, Fina, Makkari, and Druig are visited by the Eternal, Eros, and
Thanos' brother and his assistant, Pip the Troll, who offer their help.
In a post-credit scene, Dain opens an old chest inherited from his ancestors that contains
the legendary Ebony Blade when an unseen person questions him whether he is ready for it.
Hell yeah.
So I know I did this with the Suicide Squad, but why is it every single time I have a favorite
fucking character, they have to die?
It's every single time.
Every time.
First it was Captain Boomerang, but you know what, I'll give this to Gilgamesh.
He made it longer than the first frickin' ten minutes, but still.
That is very true.
What the hell?
I don't get it.
Are my characters really that badly chosen?
Apparently.
Because I thought Don Lee did an amazing job as Gilgamesh.
Dude, he did an amazing job.
But apparently it wasn't good enough.
Because, yeah.
Holy moly.
We'll get to this with the acting, but I just want to bring up one more thing.
I was not expecting frickin' Salma Hikes Ajak to just frickin' bite the dust that fast.
Yup.
That was a huge shocker for me.
Oh yeah.
Dude, this was a frickin' amazing...
I was expecting something like...
I was expecting garbage, to be honest.
I went into it expecting garbage.
I had my hopes.
I'm like, okay, I really, really hope this is good.
But I went in expecting garbage.
And this was an incredible movie.
It was.
I think the best way to explain why this movie is getting so much crap, even though the audience
score as far as the last I checked it on, Rotten Tomatoes, is at an 80%.
Whereas the actual critic score is at a 47%.
Screw you guys.
So what I've been told is this movie is very different from any other Marvel movie that
we've got in the fact that it goes against the Marvel movie formula.
It is nothing like how Shang-Chi is portrayed.
That is Marvel movie formula to a T. And it works very well for it.
I think with Shang-Chi though, they were able to make it different enough and with such
an interesting character that we don't know anything about.
I think it was super easy with Iron Man and Captain America to tell us a story in that
formulaic way.
But we all kind of knew how the movie was going to end.
No, no, yeah, no, that's very true.
And like honestly, yeah, no, no, I absolutely agree with you.
Whereas with the, with, I almost called it the eternals.
It's just eternals.
They're basically, it's not like the Avengers where it's a team that hasn't been assembled
yet and they're working through assembling them through a bunch of movies.
This is a team that was assembled at first, but then was told to disassemble and now they
have to assemble again.
Yeah.
And I think that worked out really well.
Because they were all together and then had this already familial bond between them.
And so when they separated, there was some heartbreak to it.
And then I loved that shit.
Yeah, so it was really good.
And I think another big issue that people were like, or not issues, a fit people were
throwing over this movie was, oh, a lot of these characters get sidelined.
And I'm like, yeah, but they have to.
Yeah, you got freaking 10 main eternals that you have to give.
You have to spread two hours and 30 minutes to not all of them are going to get the exact
same screen time.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you have literally the same as it is how it is in the Avengers films.
Yeah, dude, when they were going in and trying to get everyone like get the gang back together.
And I forget at which point, like who was all there.
Oh, it was like right after they got drew wig.
And I'm just like, all right, like, that seems like everyone.
And they're like, all right, let's go get the others.
And I'm like, the others.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, there's like a bunch of them.
Wasn't it just well, wait, after that, wasn't it just McCarrie?
After Drew, it was McCarrie and fastest that OK.
Yeah, that's what the other two was left.
Yeah, like they had everyone else.
So I was just like, what the hell?
Honestly, I honestly was very sad that they didn't get to have a full family reunion.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you can definitely add it really to the I think it really did.
It really did.
I mean, because you can definitely tell that they did love each other up until they freaking
drug was just like, yeah, I'm starting to well, I mean, I don't know if all of them
were starting to question Ajak, but Drug was the one that like really came up and said
with like because in this scene before they split off, basically Ajak is telling the and
a hey, because you're having these gosh, what were they called?
Mind something.
Oh, I I have no idea.
It was like some it would mess with her mind that like she would basically turn into like
a not like a zombie, but basically she would turn against everybody and basically just
try to kill them.
And she almost does, especially McCarrie.
She really almost kills McCarrie in the scene, but basically Ajak is like, hey, we need to
wipe your memory and, you know, basically you'll be reborn again.
And freaking Druic is just like, OK, wait a minute.
You're asking her to basically just do away with all that she knows and just start fresh.
Don't you think that she deserves a say in that?
Yeah, like I thought that was so good.
It really was.
And you know, what's funny is I actually thought I was going to hate the character of Druic.
He actually became one of my favorites.
Dude, me too.
I really thought I was going to hate him.
Like we'll get into this, but his his costume was sick.
It was.
I don't know how he walked in it, though, because that shit went down to his shoes.
Yeah, straight up.
I just loved everything that they did.
The main focus of the story was Cersei and I feel Icarus to a point.
Yeah, it was definitely those two.
That was the main focus with a very side focus on Sprite, Thena, and I'd say.
Well actually just Sprite, Thena, and Gilgamesh.
I think they were very much sidelined.
And then there was that sea story where it was all the other ones.
Kingo, Fastus, Makari, I already said Makari.
Druig?
Yeah, and Druig.
I loved that.
I love multiple layers of storytelling, especially when it comes to big casts like this.
Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
And so the way that they were able to pull that off and make the story or the overall
story not feel so convoluted was really, really nice.
I loved how Cersei was just able to build that confidence within herself to basically
turn a celestial into marble.
That was so freaking cool.
Oh my gosh.
Dude, I'm going to be freaking just pining over this movie in effects.
Same, same.
I am a sucker for a lot of the effects that they did in this movie.
Like the giant ones.
I love, I don't know what it is, I love giant things.
One of my favorite things is God of War.
When they discover the world serpent, it's like this big ass freaking snake that comes
up and he's like wrapped around the mountains and he becomes super tall and he becomes almost
like out of view of the world.
And I'm like, oh, that's freaking great.
And so they did that so much with this one, especially when they went to go visit Arishem.
Like anytime they went to talk to him.
Arishem?
Well, okay, you know, actually it might be the way that they're saying it with the accent.
So it actually probably is Arishem.
Yeah, like, sorry.
No, you're fine.
Like when they went to go talk to that celestial, I think it was just not being able to see
his full body was terrifying.
And I'm like, this is freaking great.
And then at the very end, when he comes to Earth and he was like a shit ton far away
from Earth.
Yeah, it was like, holy like this is oh my gosh.
If they do something even half as cool as that for Galactus, when they eventually get
to him, I'm going to shit my pants because that's going to be so cool.
Oh shit.
Like I love stuff like that.
I absolutely love stuff like that.
Anyway, yeah, I'll get like I said, I'll get into that with with effects.
But yeah, they're like Cersei's and Icarus's story, where it was just kind of like, more
or less a love triangle.
It didn't feel as much as a love triangle as I thought it was.
Yeah, it's just because Dane wasn't in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kitt Harrington wasn't in this movie as much as I thought he was going
to be.
Yeah, I think that they they could have pulled it a little bit better had he suited up with
the the Eternals.
That would have been super dope.
Yeah, like just make him feel a little bit bigger.
Like he kind of felt like a joke.
A little bit.
Like not so much that it was distracting to the movie, but anytime that they like interacted
with him or like Cersei got calls from him a couple of times and like would hang up,
I'm like, oh yeah, he's here.
Yeah, because like, yeah, speaking of that, like when they're in the camps, Cersei, when
she's losing connection, she's just like, Dane, you're breaking up and Icarus just comes
in.
He's like, oh, you guys broke up.
I'm like, so funny.
I think Icarus was kind of a douche.
He was, but frickin, oh, I forget who plays him.
Richard Madden.
Yeah, God, he plays Dick very well.
Dude, he did.
And we'll get into it with acting.
Yeah, with acting.
What was I going to say?
Dude, I loved how everyone seemed to like big, throw big old fit against Fastus.
And his like, his, his marriage.
I mean, I don't know if they were married.
I'm assuming so.
I think they were because he does say husband.
Yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, his yeah, how he has a husband and apparently like there's a bunch of people
throwing a fit over that.
And I'm like, that was also just such a small part of the movie.
Like, I mean, chill.
Yeah.
But you know what, I appreciate that scene so much that we get a LGBTQ representation
in a Marvel movie.
That's frickin great.
It's very sad that it's getting banned in some countries because of it.
Such bullshit.
But I not trying to get, you know, like into that kind of thing.
But I do, I do hope this is a step forward into getting more of the, this kind of situations.
But her story lands, whatever, but getting into, you know, the rest of the story.
What else should we talk about?
What else to touch upon?
How did, did you feel like the deviants were like an actual like good main villain of the
film?
That's an interesting one because we were, we were played just as much as the eternals
were.
Thinking that the deviants were the problem.
Yeah.
I was not expecting the whole, um, fricking them finding out that, uh, basically, um,
fricking, oh God, what did that the deviants and the eternals are basically made from the
same cloth.
Yeah.
That, uh, yeah.
Who was it?
Was it, um, Kingo that said, so we're basically, did he say robots?
Yeah.
Um, did you know that was fricking terrifying?
Yeah, that fricking, like that visualization and that's going into effects too.
Um, yeah.
Like in a good way, I could have done that because that was very creepy.
I got fricking, um, I robot kind of vibes from that show.
For real.
Um, yeah, I loved like everything that they were able to bring into this.
Like they brought in a lot of heart too with this, especially when it came to Kingo and
what was his name?
Karun.
Oh my gosh.
I love Karun.
Like he, so Karun is kind of is, um, is Kingo's assistant more or less.
It just kind of like helps him do different things.
And it was so funny watching them interact.
And he's just like, yeah, he's, he's kind of, uh, in servitude of me because he tried
stabbing or he thought I was a vampire and tried stabbing me in the heart with a wooden
spike and Karun was just like, I apologized for that.
And he's like, yeah, but not enough.
Dude, the fact that, um, uh, when they're on the plane and, um, Sprite is just like,
so how were you able to hide that you don't age within these like a hundred years?
He's just like, well, I am like part of like the greatest, uh, fricking generation in Bollywood
history.
That's my great granddad.
That's that's my, that's my, that's my dad.
And then that's me.
Yeah.
You never really think of like those issues.
Yeah.
Just little disguises was able to, cause it didn't really look like he gave that much
effort into those disguises.
Yeah.
Um, but I guess that goes a long way.
Yeah, no joke.
Um, yeah, I think they did such a good, good job with this story.
Like it was so intriguing.
Like it was like to tell you guys just how good it was, like remembering that we actually
graded this thing.
We gave the story in 93.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
Like it was, it, I think there were definitely times where I think it could have been paced
a bit better.
That's that's fair.
I mean, honestly, I was actually, I thought that, um, with it being the second longest
Marvel movie that I felt like it was going to drag in some parts to me, it never dragged
actually.
Yeah.
It was like very action packed.
And then even the stuff that wasn't too action driven, um, did a really good job at like
keeping your attention, like throwing in humor and stuff.
And so it like made you want to pay attention.
Yeah, no, I agree.
Um, like I feel that this, um, like a lot of the action it feels is at the beginning
and more so towards the end.
There isn't a lot of action in the middle kind of.
Yeah, I mean there, there is, but you know, at the same time there isn't, but at least
for me, because you get, um, so connected with these characters, like right off the
bat, you really want to see where all of all 10 eternals evolve.
Um, when it comes to like the slow parts, the intimate parts, um, just these characters
talking to each other, um, like honestly, uh, for how much I loved these characters,
I could have taken a whole movie just with that.
Um, because I think that, um, God, who's the director of this movie?
Uh, isn't it like Chloe Zhao?
Yeah, Chloe Zhao.
I think she did a great job establishing all 10 of these eternals.
And um, like I said, I could have seen a movie just with them just talking to each other.
I actually would have been down for that because I really loved all of these characters that
much.
Yeah.
Same here.
Like they were, they were so, so fricking good.
Um, even though they had a storyline that I feel ultimately kind of went nowhere with
the, um, uh, the deviants.
Like it technically went nowhere, but it's also wasn't the main focus of it.
Like we, it was, they, it was kind of the red herring, the deviants were the red herring.
Like we thought that the deviants were the problem, but as it turns out, it was, it's
the celestial, it was Erishim.
That's, that was the problem and the deviants were just kind of a by-product of the celestial's
tomfoolery.
How did you, um, feel about, uh, Icarus being the one that wanted to stop the emergence?
Oh my gosh, dude.
Could you say greatest reveal?
Yeah, I did not see that coming.
It's, there's a lot where I'm like, okay, something shady about this dude, like something
super shady.
I never felt that.
Not even a little bit.
I was just like, so like, oh, this dude's basically just cut and dry, does whatever
the leader says.
So like, sure.
He's going to do whatever Cersei wants him to.
And then once it was revealed that he killed Ajax, I'm like, no.
Yeah, but I feel also, they, I feel like that was, it was something that was like, I didn't
like think about when the movie was going on until it got to the scene in the trailer
where Ajax was like, the emergence is coming.
We have six days or we have like seven days.
And so when, when it cut to, and it's like six days ago, I'm like, wait, does that mean
he knew?
Yeah.
And then that's when I like a freaking, yeah, no, because I was like the same way when it
started like getting to kind of towards the middle of the movie.
I'm like, wait, in the movie Ajax is talking to Icarus about like, you know, the whole
thing and the research, wow, not the resurgence, the, and I just emergence, emergence.
Thank you.
But yet she's already dead, so was that just like a freaking lie in the trailer?
Did they pull?
That's what I thought too.
That is exactly what I thought.
I'm like, great.
Yeah.
I'm like, great.
Like that's, that's like something that pisses me off about like getting back into it that
pisses me off about Marvel.
I'm like, I saw that scene.
I'm like, okay, I guess we're just going to completely ignore Ajax warning Icarus about
the emergence.
Yeah.
Like whatever the hell that is.
And then once they like that scene started coming in, I'm like, like, oh my gosh, like,
dude, and I have like the best intentions.
I'm like, okay, no way.
Like Icarus would have like, like maybe he forgot, like she has the ability to wipe minds,
like, or has like some like access to that ability in some way.
Like maybe she just wiped his mind.
Like maybe he did this.
Maybe he did that.
And like maybe she swore him to secrecy and no, like, like honestly, I feel he freaking
did it in such a gruesome way.
Just freaking like pushing her off the cliff.
Oh my gosh.
Right.
I mean, she landed on her feet, but then, you know, she's, she's the deviance killer.
Yeah.
Um, dude, one thing that threw me off, like no man's business, um, in the credits, I thought
Bill Skarsgård was Eros.
I didn't realize he was the deviant.
I didn't realize.
I kept wondering who Bill Skarsgård played.
Okay.
Yeah.
I played Crow, who was the deviant, like the head deviant.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I'm kind of disappointed.
Yeah.
Harry Styles played Eros.
I mean, I'm actually okay with that because I feel Styles has shown his acting chops with
Dunkirk.
Oh shit.
He was in Dunkirk, huh?
Yeah.
Damn.
Is he a better actor than I thought he was?
I think he might be from what I remember.
He was very good in that movie.
Shit.
I think you're right.
All right.
I mean, that's easier to forgive then, but I honestly thought it was Bill Skarsgård.
Well, wait, like actually like on screen.
Yeah.
I thought it was Bill that was, that was Eros.
I could definitely tell that was Harry Styles.
I couldn't.
It's also like Harry Styles is just such like a background character in my mind.
No, that's fair.
What?
You don't like One Direction?
You didn't listen to stuff like it was gospel music?
Hell no, man.
I had better shit to do with my time.
Okay.
So I do have a question.
When it came to like the actual like character relationships, because I feel this works
in with the story with let's say Cersei and Icarus.
How did you feel about those two?
I think Icarus was a little on the clingy side, but overall I actually really liked
the relationship.
Like Cersei was just, I think Icarus kind of had a god complex and Cersei grounded him.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
And like that was like really nice to see.
So I mean, I thought it was a really good relationship.
And I think all of the relationships were really good.
Like I don't really know how I felt about well, I couldn't get a good grasp of what
kind of relationship Gilgamesh and Thena had, whether that was like a romantic relationship
or whether it was like sibling protection.
I don't know actually, because towards the end of the movie, when Thena is talking to
Cersei, she says, you know, Gilgamesh always told me when you love something, you protect
it no matter what.
That's the one.
That doesn't always necessarily equal romantic love.
No, no, I agree.
And so, like, yeah, I just don't know if he ever if like he actually had like, like romantic
feelings for her if he saw her more as just a sister.
I don't know, like I honestly wanted them to explore that relationship more.
As I said at the beginning of this episode, I'm freaking pissed that they killed off Gilgamesh.
Yeah, I mean, it's understandable why they didn't explore that more.
It's because it was very Cersei, Icarus based, which makes sense, because Thena and Gilgamesh
weren't the ones that were going to ultimately stop the emergence from happening.
No, that's very true.
Like I think it had to focus on on Cersei and Icarus because Cersei was absolutely the
protagonist and Icarus was like the secret antagonist.
And so you have to focus on those two, like first and foremost.
Yeah.
But I think that they did make a very good B story.
Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
One more relationship that I just want to talk about.
How did you feel about the because you could definitely tell that there was something going
on between those two, Druig and Makari.
I actually really liked their relationship.
I did too.
I think it was just like both of them just kind of had like a cockiness about them.
And that just and I wouldn't even say it was like a real relationship.
It was more like a flirtation ship.
Yeah, that's fair.
And I loved every second of it like like those two, the actors had like amazing chemistry
between the two of them.
They did.
It was it was amazing, actually.
Yeah.
But I loved it.
I loved it so much.
Speaking of Makari real quick.
So she was played by Lauren Ridloff, who is deaf.
So all of her sign language was like her sign language.
I think that was so freaking cool.
Yeah, apparently, the interest because of this movie, the interest of people wanting
to learn American sign language has gone up by 250 percent.
That makes me very happy.
Right?
Hell yeah.
Like that is so cool.
Like it just shows how important representation is.
Absolutely.
Like and being the first deaf hero.
I know that your your your salty ass is going to want to say Hawkeye is the first deaf hero,
but he has a hearing aid.
I wasn't even going to bring that up, actually.
So kiss my ass.
You had it.
You had a look about your face.
I'm like, that asshole is going to be like, well, Hawkeye's deaf.
I wasn't even going to bring it up, asshole.
I was going to shut the F up.
OK, I was wrong.
I'll take that.
I already said the F word once on this podcast.
Might as well say it a second time.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
Oh, but yeah, I thought all of the relationships that they did and the one that felt like really
funky was Sprites, like kind of admiration of Icarus.
It kind of felt like older brother.
But then the way that I was who was it, Kingo explained the relationship like it was Peter
Pan.
Like, I loved that.
Yeah, I did, too.
Because, yeah, I never thought of explaining it that way.
I'm like, damn, that's a really good way to explain it.
Yeah, and Kingo was just an amazing character.
And it was just like the simple things.
I loved how with Kingo and Sprite, the conversation that they were having, it just really stood
out like, oh, why he got into movies.
And he's like, it's because I missed hearing your stories and talking about how he would
just sit there and admire everything that you would do and your storytelling.
And I love that they brought it up, but they showed it before they even brought it up.
When they were in like, what was it, Babylon?
I think so.
Yeah, and they're talking about art and she's doing like some crazy illusion magic.
It was a story of Gilgamesh and someone else.
It wasn't one of the other Eternals, but I forget who else it was.
Yeah, but just like the way that Kingo was just sitting there like almost in awe.
Like, just as much as everyone else in the audience was.
It was amazing.
I do love the part in that scene where freaking Gilgamesh actually goes down to sit next to
him and Kingo is just like, there's literally freaking dozens of seats open and you have
to sit right next to me.
One thing I also appreciated that kind of I felt helped with the story a little bit
was like, I know that the Eternals were trying to like, at least Cersei was, was trying to
keep her powers a secret.
None of the other Eternals even like tried to hide their abilities.
Yeah.
And I loved that.
Like, it's just I loved it because it's just kind of like, okay, what, like if someone
finds out who you're a superhero, what happens?
You get captured, someone like dissects you, you're not going to do that to an Eternal.
They'll freaking kick your ass.
It's true.
And I just love that, that they didn't feel the need to hide.
Even like Icarus, he didn't need to hide and that he heard he was on the news and he wasn't
like some, oh no, like situation.
He's just like, whatever.
The fact that like, yeah, the kid's like freaking out like, oh my God, yeah, you know, like
you were shooting laser beams and you were wearing a cape.
The only thing that he says is I don't wear a cape.
Yeah.
This is the only response I love.
So good.
I love that.
I love that they didn't try to throw in this other plot device.
Like they had so much to deal with already.
Don't throw in the plot device that they're trying to hide their abilities or not interact.
Like, and I thought that what they were going to do was like, oh, we can't interfere with
humans and like all their stuff.
I loved how they just kind of let everything happen around them.
Like when they were talking about it in Mesopotamia and they were like the Spanish Inquisition
and they were just like, they were seriously just like off in a field or like off in the
trees somewhere, like watching this happen.
Yeah.
And no one was bothering them.
Nope.
And like just saying, oh, we can't interfere with this.
We can't interfere with that.
And like, it's just, I love that not interfering doesn't mean not helping or not like in times
of peace like fastest developing new technology for them.
And just all this other stuff.
Like I really love that.
And I think they did also such a good job at explaining everyone's motivations behind
leaving the eternals or leaving the group like fastest.
He was with Ajak for a majority of his life until his technology or he helped humans develop
nuclear technology and bomb Hiroshima.
And then like just his heartbreak through that.
And he's just like, I'm freaking done with these people.
Yeah.
Like it makes, you know what?
I don't blame you, man.
Yeah.
Right.
Straight up.
But I think everything just floats so freaking well.
So 93 is like an exceptional score for story.
Getting into writing, it was a little bit lower sitting at a 90.5.
I think I've said it a million times.
I'm not the biggest fan of wasted dialogue.
And I feel there was a few lines here and there that were, that could have been considered
that.
But for the most part, they did a really good job at keeping it, the script crisp.
What are some examples of a wasted dialogue you felt?
Honestly, a lot of shit with sprite.
Is that for blood with sprite?
I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I know.
It like, I think that my biggest issues were sprite and probably crow the deviant.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know, okay.
So I want to bring this up really quickly with the whole crow thing, like towards the
end, when he's trying to get Thena to basically come to him and so he can just kill her and
absorb her power.
I would, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I would assume the part where he's just
like, hey, Thena, it's me, Gilgamesh, remember.
He keeps saying remember, remember.
But it's not even like, it's not him trying to intimidate or in the sword, intimidate
when you're actually able to do someone else's voice.
Oh, imitate, imitate.
He's not even trying to imitate Gilgamesh his voice.
He's just doing that threw me off too.
I'm like, what the shit?
You should have the ability to imitate like any, especially considering you absorbed Gilgamesh
his powers, you should be able to at least do his voice.
Like come on.
Yeah, you would think, right?
So the fact that like Thena fell for that shit, at least for a minute, I'm just like,
it's not even freaking Gilgamesh his voice.
I know.
I think it might've just been the sayings, but it was still like really funky.
And if you want to talk about funky, the way that he was like tying her up, I'm like, this
is getting a little on the kinky side.
Yeah, that's a little weird.
Like, you know what?
I get it.
Some people have a thing for Angelina Jolie, but not in a Marvel movie, please.
Yeah.
I think that it could have really helped if they, if they used Gilgamesh his voice.
But yeah, it would have made it.
That was creepy.
I think sometimes Crowe went on a little too long with his rants.
Yeah, I definitely would agree with that.
I do.
I did appreciate that they were able to just kind of wrap up his life really quick.
Yeah.
And cleanly and they just like, all right, done.
Like, we don't need this story arc anymore.
Like I said, it was, I love that.
Like it was just kind of like as soon as they were done with it, they end it.
And it did feel very abrupt, but I'm like, I mean, we're going to move on to some more
important things.
Yeah.
Speaking of, you know, going along with writing, and I feel this kind of goes with acting too.
The whole scene where, oh my gosh, Sprite, oh my God, I'm forgetting these names.
Sprite, Icarus, Kingo, what's his assistant's name?
Karun.
Karun and Cersei all show up to Gilgamesh and Thena's house.
Ana, maybe it's just me, I'm being biased here just because, you know, Gilgamesh was
my favorite character in this movie.
But freaking every line that is written for Gilgamesh in that scene is just freaking comedy
gold.
Yep.
Just, just-
Absolutely.
From the freaking line about Karun being like Alfred to freaking Sprite changing him to
freaking big baby.
Which I, could you tell that that was CGI?
A little bit.
Okay.
But yeah, the writing for all of the characters in that scene was great, but I feel Gilgamesh's
writing really stood out for me.
Especially the freaking like, freaking his beer being like freaking the corn that he
freaking shucked himself with his own teeth and like-
And fermented and spit.
So gross.
And freaking Kingo keeps drinking it.
It's like freaking Gil, can you just freaking dump all this out?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah I think for the most part they did really well at avoiding unnecessary lines or like
redundancies or just different things here and there.
Like I think they did a really good job at avoiding all of that.
Like I said, the biggest slip ups I felt were with Sprite and, who else did I say?
Mine actually just been Sprite.
Yeah I do feel like maybe there was a little bit of wasted dialogue with Dane.
That's fair.
I feel that since they were able to get Kit Harrington they wanted to try to squeeze as
much dialogue out of him as they could.
Yeah they kind of led us on to believe that he was going to be a bigger part of the movie
than he was going to.
They really did.
Like at the beginning I'm just like, oh he's like in the beginning of this like, alright
I'm down.
Yeah, because he's a great actor.
Yeah.
But nope.
Well luckily and I hope we get to see more of him down the line.
For sure I have a feeling we're going to see him in Blade.
Yeah that's going to be freaking awesome.
That's going to be super sick.
One thing though, and I think this might have been, I'll say this is a writing issue.
Do you remember when they were back on their ship to get Makari and someone was holding
up a sword?
Didn't Sprite ask if that was the Ebony Blade?
I think so.
And then yeah, doesn't Thena say no it's the Sword of Excalibur?
That's right.
Okay, I would have sworn someone said it was the Ebony Blade.
So when the Ebony Blade was at the end with Dain I'm like, wait.
How did he get that?
Did Cersei drop it off for him?
I'm pretty sure she wouldn't give him a cursed blade.
At least we hope not.
So yeah that was another writing issue, not a big one.
So that was just my misunderstanding.
But again, writing is above average, sitting at a 90.5.
Moving on over to acting, we're sitting at a 92.5.
Hell yeah.
Okay so yeah, we gotta touch upon some of these stars here.
So I have IMDB pulled up.
So Cersei was played by Jemma Chan.
Icarus played by Richard Madden.
Thena played by Angelina Jolie.
Ajak played by Salma Hayek.
Dane Whitman who was played by Kit Harrington.
Kingo who was played by Kumail Nanjiani.
Sprite played by Leah McHugh.
Festus played by Brian Tyree Henry.
Makari played by Lauren Redloff.
Druig played by Barry Kogin.
Gilgamesh played by Don Lee.
Crow was played by Bill Skarsgård.
And then Arisham was voiced by David Kay.
Like those are the main people.
Yeah.
Did I miss anyone?
No, I don't think you did.
Okay.
Obviously we know that you have a hard on for Gilgamesh.
I do not have a hard on.
I just think that the guy is a really good actor and his character deserved a little
better.
Who else?
Anyone else stand out to you?
I feel the one that really stood out to me just because I walked in this movie thinking
I was going to hate his character Barry Kogin.
However the hell you say his last name.
Yeah no freaking clue.
Yeah.
He was fantastic as Druig.
He says his lines in kind of like a monotone kind of way.
But I don't know how would you explain that he delivers his lines?
That's interesting.
Kind of in a stuck up way.
Okay, yeah that's a good way to put it.
Everything that he says just kind of feels like he's kind of saying like I know better
than you.
Which I mean that's definitely how the character of Druig is.
So to that he played it very well.
Oh yeah.
I think he did a really good job at portraying even like the emotional or not the emotional,
the flirtationship that he had with Macquary.
He went from like that like I'm better than you attitude to like a very just like wink
wink.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I think he did a really good job.
Sorry go ahead.
I'm super biased because I love him so much but Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo was the standout
for me.
See that's okay.
So apparently so I have a hard on for Don Lee and you have a hard on for Kumail Nanjiani.
Well it's just I don't know.
I'm a sucker for comedic performances and I think everyone did like a really good job.
Like honestly Kumail Nanjiani and Brian Tyree Henry who played fastest like those were my
two highlights of other than like the main cast.
Like I think Gemma Chan and Richard Madden did really good at their more serious performances.
Yeah.
Angelina Jolie she felt a little wasted.
A little bit but in the best possible way.
Fair.
It almost felt like she wasn't Angelina Jolie because Angelina Jolie is a title actress
like an A class and in this it didn't quite feel that way and I think it worked.
It did.
Honestly if I had to say like anyone was like really wasted because like Don Lee does get
a lot to do for what he is given considering this is actually his first American film.
Is it really?
Yeah and honestly his English has come a long way.
Amazing job.
But I feel like the one that was wasted so much because what she is she actually does
in this movie is great is Salma Hayek.
I loved what she was in in this movie.
I loved the scenes that she is in.
Like actually I am so used to her being in like comedies like with Adam Sandler and shit
like that so I am not used to her being in like these kind of serious roles and like
really showing off her acting chops and I freaking love it.
She is really good at this kind of stuff and I really wish that she would have gotten
more to do as Ajak.
Yeah again that is another thing I am not too upset about that.
Yeah?
Yeah it is just Marvel movies to me are the introduction to new actors and actresses or
up and coming and so with the Eternals I think that you had to kind of get into the higher
class of actor or people just higher up on the class scale because with that I think
they were the selling point for the Eternals.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Like oh come see Eternals Angelina Jolie is in it and Salma Hayek and then it is just
like ooh.
And then they focus more on like the up and comers like Jim and Chan and Richard Madden.
Yeah frightfully so.
I mean they are very good actors.
Yeah I mean they are like they are no slouches.
But they are just not on the same level as Angelina and Salma.
Yeah.
So I think they did an incredible job.
Like hats off to the casting people.
Like you guys freaking killed it.
So I know you are not the biggest fan of some of her.
Okay I got to know how did you actually feel about the actress that played Sprite?
I mean I did not hate her.
Like she was good.
I think it was just the way her character was written.
Okay that is fair.
I am not sure if I know her from anything else.
I think I like her character a little more than you.
Yeah like she was good.
She was like definitely good.
She just was not like top three for me.
Okay if you had to choose your top three who would it be?
I was just looking at her IMDB real quick.
She did not start acting until like 2016 and I have not seen a single thing.
This is like her big role.
So that is kind of cool.
That is actually very cool.
Good news to her for getting in a Marvel movie at so young.
Yeah right.
Alright my number one I have to give.
Ah they were all so good.
I am like looking down this list and I am just like shit they were really good too.
My number one I am going to give to Cersei.
I think she did a really phenomenal job at playing someone that was relatable in a way.
No yeah that is fair.
Like someone who was like always late.
Like she has these human flaws about her and I love that.
Dude the part where she freaking says I know I am late Charlie and it cuts to Charles Darwin
right?
Is that true?
That was amazing.
I am like that is fantastic.
I get it because you live forever.
So I am definitely giving it to Cersei number one.
Number two I have to give it to Kingo.
I love the hell out of Kingo.
I have to give it to Icarus after that.
I liked him.
He was like just kind of like jockey douchey enough and then once he went bad I am just
like oh you became a thousand times more interesting.
Yeah he plays like the evil Superman part very well.
But that is just it.
He does not think what he is doing is evil and in a way because Kingo was not necessarily
against Icarus either.
He is just like listen like yes it sucks that this planet is going to get destroyed but
it is giving birth to a celestial who will give birth to like millions of other planets
just like this one.
The only difference between Icarus and Kingo is Kingo did not want to fight any of his
family so that is why he kind of just left.
Yeah and it is so cool like how I think you can take the dynamics with these people in
their relationship to Erisham to almost like you can bring it down to like a mortal equivalency
of like religion.
That is a good point.
Like Icarus was just so he was like a blind follower.
Like he did not care what Erisham said, what told him what to do.
He did it without question.
And then Kingo had the relationship where it is like I do not necessarily agree with
what Erisham is asking but it is ultimately for the greater good or the sacrifice serves
a greater purpose than we can imagine.
It will give birth to millions of other planets, millions of other people and blah blah blah
blah blah.
Yeah.
So it is like you can understand that too.
Like that like okay I do not necessarily agree with what God is asking in certain instances
but it is for the greater good and like you know people like that.
Like I feel in some instances I am people like that.
I can agree with that.
I mean that in the best way possible.
And then the only other one I think just kind of like opposite of Kingo because I think
that like the complete opposite of Icarus where it was like totally devout was Circe.
Where she is like as soon as she realized what the Celestials were planning she is like
no like I am not having it.
And then Kingo was like okay I found it out and I do not like it but I am okay with it
like because it serves a greater purpose.
I think the complete opposite of him was Fastus where he is like I now know what the Celestials
are planning and I am not about that life and I am not going to put up with it.
Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, exactly.
So I just love those dynamics and I feel like with Sprite it was very much she was guided
by her heart and just saw.
Like she was I think she was just going to follow Icarus wherever the hell he went.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Thena, I under like I think the ones that were just kind of like indifferent about it
were Thena, Makari, and Druig.
And Gilgamesh did not really learn what the Celestials were doing right?
No, he did.
Like all he knew was about the deviants.
Did he?
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, because when, because yeah, literally, oh god when does she have that?
Because when she goes out to like after they first get to Gilgamesh and Thena's place and
she actually like goes out and like gets a full on connection with, oh my god what is
his name again?
Starts with an A, right?
Erishim?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
However you say it.
Him telling him, telling her like hey, you know, you know, I created the deviants, they
went against me so I created the Eternals to basically destroy the deviants, you know,
yada yada yada, all that stuff.
And so she's telling, once she finishes that whole situation, she tells Icarus, Gilgamesh,
Thena, and Sprite, oh and Kingo, and yeah, basically what's going on and from, I mean
I'm assuming Gilgamesh was with her it seemed.
Because well, oh no, what was it, because when him and Thena are sitting in the woods
she's just like well why are we waiting and he's just like well, what is this, Cersei
still doesn't know what we should do so that's why we're waiting on her.
So you could tell that he definitely agreed with Cersei's mission then.
At least that's what it seemed like.
Okay.
It seemed like he was definitely on Cersei's side.
I can get behind that.
But yeah, I think everyone did, like I said, hats off to the casting people because they
did an amazing job.
This casting was killer.
So good.
So I think a 92.5 is more than fair.
Yes, absolutely.
Moving on over to character development, we're sitting at an 89.5 which so far is the lowest
score.
Wow, that's not even that low.
I know, right?
I kind of did the team as a whole just because like there were so many, like many stories
in this.
Yeah, no, it's fair.
Yeah, I think the biggest one was with Cersei and Icarus which I think is the one that we
can definitely talk about more.
But Cersei started off as a follower.
She was just kind of whatever Ajak needed her to be, I guess.
She didn't follow blindly, but she followed with love for the human people and maintained
that love.
But then that love was challenged when she became the leader of the Eternals after Ajak's
passing.
And so when she became, because she was under the impression that Ajak knew best.
And so when she became leader and learned what Arisham had planned for herself and her
team, she kind of had to grow into her leadership role.
And she struggled with making a decision for like a really good portion until people were
kind of telling her to get her act together and be like, you're leading us now.
You make the ultimate decision.
And she did.
So I thought that was like incredible.
And she gets to that point and then she stands by her decisions as well, which I think you
could have had her hesitate more, but I love that they didn't.
Yeah.
I feel kind of like at least kind of at the beginning where she kind of starts to question
everything that's going on is when she has to explain to Dain who the Eternals really
are, why they didn't interfere with Thanos or any other human catastrophe.
And the fact that towards the ending when she's explaining everything, she's just like,
and now we kind of just are, we've been here for over 7,000 years and we're kind of just
waiting to be called back home.
We don't know when that's going to be.
And like, it kind of seems that she's kind of confused by that, but she kind of just
still follows blindly that it's going to happen eventually.
Yeah.
And it makes like perfect sense why she has that hesitation to become the leader of the
Eternals and take that role on.
And even when it comes to defying the wishes of Erichsham.
So I think they did a really good job with that story.
I think what brought it down though was some of the side stories, like you said, probably
could have been explored a little bit more, but and maybe they could have drawn out the
whole deviant stuff and dealing with Kro, like maybe drawing that out just a little
bit, but it wasn't important enough for them to do that.
Yeah.
When, honestly, when the Eternals found out their real purpose and how basically they
always thought that, well, as Kingo said, we are the heroes that we create.
How did he explain it?
Do you remember?
How did he explain what?
Like when Gilgamesh is kind of like, well, I always thought we were the heroes, but it
turns out we're not.
He's just like, but we are the heroes, we give life, we help life, but then I think
someone chimes in and is just like, yeah, but then we take it away.
Yeah.
Which is really shitty because it does put you in a weird conundrum.
Yeah.
Because it's like, yes, you could follow blindly and I don't know, like it's such an interesting
concept like what the, what and who the Eternals are.
Really is.
Because to like other, because a bunch of different people, like they could be different.
Like from one perspective, I think both perspectives are right.
In one light, the Eternals are villains sent to ultimately destroy planets.
Yeah.
Almost like the, like a herald of Galactus does.
And they have to like prepare this planet for its ultimate destruction.
But in the same sense, it's giving birth to other worlds, other people, like countless
other people.
So it's just who's in the right there.
Yeah.
Like it's such a weird moral gray area.
It becomes that like the lives of the few versus the lives of the many.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
I think they did an amazing job with that.
So yeah, I think an 80, 89 and a half, pretty fair.
No, I agree.
Anything else you wanted to say about character development or anyone else that you wanted
to focus on?
Not really.
I don't think so.
I mean, I did appreciate that Sprite does get a big character moment towards the end
in the fact that when the whole fight is going on with Cersei, Druig and Fastos trying to
stop the, oh my gosh, not resurgence, emergence, right?
Yes.
But yeah, Icarus and Sprite are trying, well, I'm sorry, wait, I forgot Macari is trying
to stop it.
But you know, with Icarus and Sprite's trying to stop it.
And that whole scene with Sprite being like, you know what, I always envied over you.
Oh my God, I just forgot her name.
Macari?
No, Icarus and Cersei.
Cersei, thank you.
How did I forget her name?
But how Sprite is just like, you know what, I always kind of not hated about you, but
I was always jealous of is because of the way that you were developed as an Eternal,
you actually looked like an adult age where I was constructed as a child, so I never actually
got to live a basically normal life on Earth.
Everyone just saw me as a child.
And so the fact that she is able to finally live because Cersei says, you know, like,
hey, I still have power left over from the Unimind, I'm able to turn human.
Would you be okay with that?
But you know, like, of course you're going to die.
And she's just like, yeah, I would love that.
And the fact that she gets to, you know, experience that she gets to experience growing up as
a kid actually gets to experience childhood, finding love, and, you know, just enjoying
life.
I thought that was actually a very good character growth for her.
I thought it was too.
I thought it was also a very convenient way if they ever wanted to bring her back to justify
her aging.
Yeah, seriously, though.
You know, a good point.
But, you know, like kudos to them for being like, hey, loophole bitch.
Yeah, they're going to find a way and be like, hey, you're at the ripe age now.
You can be an Eternal again if you want.
There we go.
Oh, shit.
There we go.
That was funny.
Yeah.
Definitely a really good character arc.
Moving on over to effects.
So this one's sitting also at an 89.5.
With this one, it gets a little interesting because it does have very rubbery looking
effects at times, especially when you have like the flying.
The biggest one I recall was the fight between Makari and Icarus.
Like there were a lot of times where it felt like very rubbery at times.
I will give them this, though.
Maybe it's just because I'm so used to seeing Ezra Miller's The Flash running in live action.
And I think that they have learned from Quicksilver in Age of Ultron.
I mean, he looked great.
But I don't know.
I think Makari's running her super speed.
Some of the best super speed I've seen on film.
Do absolutely agree.
It looked great.
I really appreciated that they didn't try doing any slow mo shit with her.
I did too.
It was just super speed all the time.
And that's how it should be.
That's exactly how it should be.
Slow mo was cool.
But when I'm looking at someone that has super speed, I want to see them running fast as
hell.
Yeah.
Dude.
They should have taken a note.
Or freaking Warner Brothers in general needs to take a note.
Warner Brothers, I think, needs to take a note from this movie about how to do a speedster
fight.
Oh, seriously, though.
Like Makari was whooping Icarus's ass.
It was freaking awesome.
It was so good.
And my favorite scene, and this is exactly how I feel the Flash should fight.
She was just laying punches on him and then zooming off, zooming back and just fricking
wrecking him.
And then when she was punching him into the wall and just multiple back and forth, just
pounding him into the freaking stone, it was like so freaking brutal.
And Flash has never done that.
Nope.
That's how the freaking Flash should fight.
Do I understand why the fight with Superman went the way that it did?
Yeah, I get it.
But it just that's how the fight should be, because Icarus was struggling.
And the only reason that he even got the one up on Makari was because he's stronger.
Yeah.
And borderline invulnerable.
So that's just the one thing that he had on her.
So it was so...
I loved the fight so freaking much.
The only time that pulled me out of it was whenever they were showing, when they were
struggling and more or less grappling throughout.
That looked very rubbery at times.
I do 100% believe that they spilled the entire budget on the Celestials.
Yeah.
And the one scene that I wanted to talk about was the very end where...
Oh shit, what's his name?
Arishem comes to Earth to get Cersei and the others that stayed on Earth.
And the way he just appeared in the clouds.
Holy ball sack, bro.
I was ready to shit myself with how cool that looked.
Right?
And the fact that everyone else can see it, it's not naked to them.
I know, that makes it so much more terrifying.
Yeah.
Dude, could you imagine how badly everyone was freaking out?
Anyone who was around them.
You see this giant, faceless god appear into the sky and then you see some lady just fly
into space.
My brain wouldn't work right, ever again.
No.
No, huh?
And just the way everyone was checking on each other when he disappeared, I'm like,
yeah, straight up, bro.
Like I'd be like, oh shit, I'm going to end up in space.
Oh shit.
Like, oh, that would terrify the hell out of me.
Same here.
I hope they address this in future projects.
Like I want someone to be on Earth just like fighting and then suddenly, boom, celestial.
Like I want to see that scene from someone else's perspective.
Yeah, fair.
Gosh.
Dude, I'm excited.
Like I hope that we get to see also in future projects that we get to see maybe when they
do like a far out view of Earth that we get to see the hand of the celestial that was
being born.
Yeah, that actually would be really cool.
Yeah.
Like, oh my gosh, speaking of that whole scene was terrifying as hell.
Seriously, though.
Dude, I was getting tense.
Dude, I was too, just like the fingers just starting to come up just ever so slowly.
Oh, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Like I said, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.
Like just giant beings.
Like I not necessarily when it comes to like Godzilla versus Kong.
But like I wasn't the biggest fan of that.
But I did really like King Kong, the one with Jack Black, which is interesting.
I also really liked Kong Skull Island just because of how giant that shit seemed.
Like it's just stuff like that.
OK.
Like, I don't know why I didn't like Godzilla versus Kong as much, but I'm a sucker for
the giant beings.
And so those giant beings is basically what sold me on the effects.
The other thing that kind of brought it down other than that rubbery fight scene were the
deviants.
Like they felt very out of place.
I feel like almost all of the powers that the Eternals had looked amazing with the special
effects.
How did you feel about Icarus's laser eyes?
I really liked it.
I thought I liked that they were gold.
I appreciated that it was something different.
They weren't red.
Yeah, it kind of just matched the rest of the Eternals powers.
Like they were all very gold based, like Athena's weapon constructs were basically drawn gold.
Can we tell you how bitching that is?
Just being able to construct a freaking shield and a sword out of midair.
Yeah, like, oh my gosh, so cool.
And then Kingo's was really cool too, like how it was like the way that he just finger
guns but I think he did it in a way that didn't feel like he was like pew pew.
No, I appreciate that.
For the most part he had his fingers to the side.
Or wait, no, I'm sorry.
He had his fingers like palm down.
Yeah, and then he did different finger motions too, which I really appreciated.
So it didn't just feel like finger guns.
Yeah, no, so and honestly I feel that's credit to Kumail Nagiani's choice of how to do it.
Unless someone told him to do it that way.
But if he was the one that decided to do it that way, kudos to him because it definitely
made it look a lot more kind of serious and not kind of like wonky and like kind of not
as serious as like some of the other Eternals powers.
Yeah, personally, my favorite ability from like all of the Eternals had to come from
Gilgamesh.
Really?
Okay, hell yeah.
I don't know what like it kind of gave me some Hellboy vibes.
You know what, that's fair.
I freaking love that.
Like just the way that it was like kind of a shield because he would use it to like deflect
Theena's attacks.
But then just the way like just I think it was just the way that he activated it where
it was like just kind of doing a small punch in the air kind of like cocking a gun and
just boom.
Yeah, dude, the fact the one scene where it's after like he punches one of the deviants
and then frickin Icarus, Mercari and Kingo come in and help him take it down.
But then it starts to get back up and he frickin turns around and then he just does a frickin
bitch slap to him.
It's a finishing move.
It's so great.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, and the first time that Theena kind of loses her mind and like he frickin flips her
on the ground and then just boom, like just sucker punches her.
I'm like shit.
Like, oh my gosh.
His power was so cool.
Like his arm.
I don't even know how to explain it.
Just his body language when he did that, like just sold the ability.
And like I said, it was like cocking a gun.
He's like, like, you can almost hear it.
Yeah, anytime he did that.
And it was so cool.
Like I loved like how it looked drawn.
Like everything looked drawn.
There's one part I think where his arm actually looks like the Infinity Gauntlet, doesn't
it?
I think that's just kind of how his power works.
That how it okay.
Well, you know what?
That's frickin awesome.
Because I love that.
Yeah, it's like, so good.
Like all of their powers just were manifested so crazy.
Yeah.
Like Mercari's looked frickin awesome.
Icarus looked super good.
I think it's so hard to do laser eyes without thinking about Superman, especially Man of
Steel, like where like I think the only one up that Man of Steel has is the like Superman's
face glows, or like around his eyes start to glow.
And it's not just like out of his eyeballs.
It's like the skin around him.
Yeah.
So I think that's like the one thing that it has like they were able to do it a little
bit, but not like Superman.
So I think they were able to distinguish it enough.
Yeah, like that whole scene where Icarus is like literally getting his ass handed to him
by that deviant and he like the frickin deviant has him on the frickin floor with his head
just pinned to the ground and he's like trying to get up with his and he's just like frickin
like spewing just laser vision like everywhere.
Like frickin kudos to the effects team because that shit was frickin intense.
Oh, no joke.
Like I could go on and on about these effects.
They were so frickin good.
Yeah, they really were.
Honestly, like the things I brought up, that like little bit of a rubbery fight scene and
the way that the deviants looked are the only reason I docked it.
No, same here.
Everything else looked crisp as hell.
Yeah, this is honestly some of the best effects I've seen in a Marvel movie.
Yeah.
So yeah, sitting at an eighty nine point five.
Not bad.
All right.
Next up, we got music, which we unanimously agreed on a nine.
Hell, yeah, this had some good ass music.
The one track that stood out to me the most and this was actually in the I think it was
in the first trailer.
I think it's called.
Was it end of the world?
It's the song in the teaser trailer when they do that pullout shot of all the eternals like
standing on the kind of like the cliff area.
And it goes with it.
It ended when you said goodbye.
I'm not recalling that one.
In the movie, it plays when they first arrive in.
So it's after.
So it's as fast as leaving his family and they're going to pick up the domo.
OK, I'm vaguely remembering that one.
OK.
So yeah, that was a pretty good song.
Really, this is like the same thing like any other time I've given a movie a nine and not
a ten.
It was just lacking something for me to hum everything else.
It enhanced the scenes like they had like these epic musical scores that they used to
basically enhance every scene.
But the main theme of the eternals was kick ass.
Oh my gosh.
That's good.
But yeah, honestly, it was just catching it was just missing the catchy theme.
No, yeah, that's fair.
Definitely agree with you on that one.
Other than that, I think the soundtrack for this was just on point.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Anything else music wise stand out to you?
No, no, not really.
Yeah, same here.
Moving over on to costumes, though.
Oh my gosh.
The eternals outfits are kick ass.
Seriously, all of them look so good.
I love that they're not all the same color.
They're all different.
I love it.
Oh my gosh.
And I loved how it just kind of yeah, like the different colors like that really helps
to with like, just how epic everything is and how it kind of reflects their abilities
to in a way.
Yeah, that's fair.
Like, with Cersei, her outfit is green, is very like flowy and like very like almost
royal looking.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
And it's green like reflecting her her love of like, nature, I would say, because she's
able to affect like organic material.
Yeah.
And so it's just playing off of that.
And then Icarus with his suit being blue, like just a color that that stands out like
it's it's bright and bold, and just kind of stands out for him as a as a superhero.
And then everyone else like their colors like with Theena, hers, her color was white.
Just showing how elegantly she can move through battlefield.
I think that's what I gathered from it.
And her powers were very like light based and, and everything.
So it's just like that elegance of, of jumping around and.
Yeah.
And then I think they were a little on the nose with Mercari being dressed in red.
Yeah.
I was just like, okay, basically female flash.
Yeah.
It worked.
Yeah, it definitely worked, but it's just like not dissimilar to the flash.
I'm like, you guys could have gone with a different color.
You probably should have, but whatever.
And then Ajax was kind of a mixture of different colors, but she was looked more as the the
leader, so she had a very different costume design than everyone else.
She got a headpiece.
Yeah.
Almost kind of reminded me of like an archmage.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
That's a good comparison.
Yeah.
Kind of had like a pope looking hat.
Yeah.
On her.
And then she was just kind of like, like a spiritual guide, which I mean, makes sense
for who Ajax is also like a healer.
And then what color was Gilgamesh?
Because I remember fastest was purple.
It was black.
Gilgamesh was kind of like an orange, orange, but like a very like dark orange.
Okay.
I mean that kind of makes sense.
Like I feel like orange is used a lot when it comes to like strength.
Yeah.
No, yeah, that's fair.
Which is odd for some reason.
Like I don't know why orange of all colors.
Like for me, it kind of reminds me of the thing.
Yeah.
No, that's a good point.
Then I feel like it was orange.
Oh, and then Kingo.
What color was he?
He was purple.
Okay.
So he was a lighter purple than a fastos.
Wait, no, he was a darker purple.
Fastos was a lighter purple, I think.
Or was it the other way around?
I'm going to look up a picture of all of them.
Okay.
There are too many colors.
Yeah, there are.
Yeah.
Yeah, sprite was like a teal looking color.
Fastos was like a dark purple.
Yeah, druid was black.
Gilgamesh was like almost like a bronze.
Yeah, I think that's a better one.
Then Kingo was like gray with purple highlights.
Okay.
Super cool.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I love their costume designs.
They're all very uniform.
They have the little circle piece on the chest other than...
Actually, I think the only one that's different is Gilgamesh.
His circle is across his entire chest.
Everyone else is just right below the neckline.
It's like kind of a smaller one.
It's like his entire torso.
Oh yeah, shit it is.
That's kind of funny.
Yeah, so...
Love the costume design on this.
It's very regal in the instances that it needs to be very bright.
But I can't get enough of these costumes.
These costumes are so cool.
Yeah.
I have nothing bad to say about these outfits.
They were great.
I feel like I've seen a shit ton of people photoshopping Icarus's costume with a cape.
Oh really?
Basically making him look like Superman.
Oh goodness gracious.
Yeah.
Oh my.
Great costume design.
Like iconic looking.
Yes, absolutely.
I think it would be difficult to do a silhouette of these, but if you were to just highlight
the circles or everything that's highlighted from their suit, you'd be able to tell the
details immediately.
These are the Eternals.
Yeah, no absolutely.
So I don't think it's a perfect silhouette, but you can make it work.
We ended up giving the costumes a 10.
So perfect score.
Yeah, rightfully so.
Well deserved.
Alright, last up we got our own personal grade.
So I'll start this one out.
Okay.
So we can finish with you.
I'm going to give this movie a 93.
I had an absolute blast with this.
It was not the typical Marvel movie and I think it worked so well in its favor.
Like so freaking well.
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it and it does feel slightly detached from the rest
of the MCU, but in a good way.
Like it doesn't feel like, oh you need to know all of this other Marvel information
to watch this movie.
Like you can go into this movie completely blind to everything else the MCU is and still
be able to understand what's going on.
And I think that that just plays into its strengths.
So definitely don't go in with your expectations believing that this movie is going to be as
bad as critics are saying because critics don't know shit.
Like our breakdowns are the only scores that matter.
Stealing a line from DJ.
Hopefully we don't get a copy of Strikes.
That'd be really funny if he did.
Right?
You've been like, you've been ordered a cease and desist letter from the untrained eye.
I feel like I get it.
Not even mad, bro.
But yeah, like it was so good.
Like you get these characters that you genuinely care about, even the characters that aren't
soul focused and overall it's an amazing story.
So yeah, I'm sitting at a solid 93.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with everything Caleb said.
Like he said, this is a very different Marvel movie and it really works in its favor.
I feel from what I've seen, the biggest reason why this film is getting so much hate is because
it goes against the Marvel movie formula.
And so people are just like, well, no, that doesn't work for me because this is how I
like my Marvel movies to be.
So I don't like them trying to do anything different, which you know what?
I get it.
You like to stick to the same stuff that you know and love.
I get it.
But I welcome this kind of different storytelling in the MCU.
And this was actually my most anticipated Marvel movie of 2021 and it did not disappoint.
I walked into this movie pretty excited.
I was a little hesitant after hearing the reviews, but I walked out of this being, what's
the word, loving it as much as I thought I was going to, if not more.
So I'm going to actually agree with Caleb's score.
I'm going to give it a 93.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Putting that at a 93.
That is the last score that we needed.
So that averages us out to a 93.
Hell yeah.
So the final Albrows letter grade for Eternals has come to a A minus.
Hell yeah.
And oof.
So it is sitting at a 92.25%.
So this is a pretty solid A minus.
Our cutoff for an A minus is a 90%, so it's 2% higher.
So it's just two points shy of being an A.
Okay, wow.
Holy shit.
So, I mean, like we said, it's not perfect.
It definitely has some issues.
But for what we've come to expect from Marvel movies.
I think this exceeds it.
Like, following the typical Marvel formula, I think it could just get boring after a while.
Because it's just like, oh, do you want to watch this movie where this person does this
and then this and then this and then this and then ultimately leads to this?
Like with Eternals, it just kind of flips it on its head and does something completely
different.
And I think that that just shows how amazing it can be.
Absolutely.
All right.
So that, so sitting at a 92.25%, that puts it above Never Be Done, which was a documentary
that we scored, or we graded, which was at a 92.21%.
It is above Our Friend, which is at a 92.12%.
Puts it above Logan, which was at 91.8%.
Holy shit.
Puts it above Coco, which was at a 91.4%.
And then finally, it puts it above Shang-Chi in The Legend of the Ten Rings, which was
at a 91.20%.
The way it beat it by how much?
It beat Shang-Chi by 1.05%.
Damn.
Yeah, not like a super large margin, but...
It still takes the victory.
Yeah.
That's a tough sell for me, thinking that in our score it's better than Shang-Chi, but
looking at our Shang-Chi scores, it's kind of hard to argue with that.
No, I mean, for me, I liked Eternals more than Shang-Chi, but I get where you're coming
from.
Yeah.
I mean, it's 1% too, so it's like, what are you really bitching about?
They're still on the exact same level.
They're both A-films.
Yeah.
So that's what it's above, but it is below A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood, which
was at a 92.31%.
It was also below Joker, which is at a 92.37%.
It was below Pulp Fiction, which is at a 92.43%.
Then it was below Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, which was at a 92.59%.
And it is finally below Avengers Infinity War, which is at a 92.93%.
Yeah, fair enough.
So again, it is very, very tight margins.
The difference between Eternals and Infinity War is 0.7%.
Wow.
Yeah, it's tight.
It's tight.
It's super freaking tight, dude.
Just the way you said that was incredible.
Yeah, because just saying tight doesn't really...
I don't feel it properly expresses how tight the margins are.
Fair enough.
But yeah, that's where it's sitting, and I think it has a pretty decent home.
Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
Absolutely agree.
Well, that concludes...
I forgot I was leading this episode, god damn it.
Get down.
Shut up.
Anyway, do you have anything else you want to say about Eternals?
Nope.
Go check it out.
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Dude, shit.
What the hell was that?
You got anything?
Because I don't know if you did any worse than that.
Yeah, see that wasn't even worse than what I said.
So you know, kudos to you.
Dude, just like the effort that looked that you went through.