What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but
also enjoy a lot of it of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast we will be going over some for a spotlight we got a huge Marvel
title coming out with Through the Wall.
We got our official first or not official trailer for Turning Red.
I actually thought it was just called Red.
I don't know why.
Considering I just watched the trailer I don't know how I thought it was just called Red.
That's what I thought too.
I thought it was called Red.
Like even when I was talking to you about it earlier I called it Red and then I saw
it was called Turning Red.
Red is the one with Bruce Willis and all the other old actors right?
Yeah I'm pretty sure.
And then after that well you know actually with Through the Wall I think me and Caleb
want to share our first initial thoughts about a certain show that premiered today the 24th.
So we just want to give our quick reaction to what we've seen so far with that.
And then we'll be moving into our All Bros headliner of the evening which will be our
breakdown of Ghostbusters Afterlife.
Hells yeah.
So what do you say we get started?
So let's do it.
That wasn't the right one.
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All right so first starting out with 4k spotlight.
Okay okay one second.
Yeah.
I would like to address that the soundboard is still relatively new to us so anyone who
wants to make fun of me can go screw themselves.
We'll get there.
That was very abrupt though just the way you said anyone that makes want to make fun of
me they can go what did you say?
They can go f themselves.
F themselves.
Yeah damn you're not just like we'll kiss my ass no it's go f themselves.
Okay.
It's very abrupt.
It's still a new thing.
Like I forget like I almost just did like the normal like a couple seconds silence that
we usually do and then I was like oh shit wait and so I was getting ready and so I think
I just I just need to reorder these because I have it so it's like all of our normal intro
stuff is like because I have like hotkeys set with like my f buttons at the top so I
have f1 like our intro music f2 is is the the post intro or not post intro that's the
like the in between music between our new segment and our our headliner.
I have a clapping one that I've never used on this show and then I have all the the promos
for all the shows that we we like to give shout outs to.
So yeah I just feel like a like a fool now.
I still like it.
It's okay Caleb it's okay.
Yeah anyway.
Anywho getting to 4k spotlight.
The big and only release this week is Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and for
the first time in a while I actually like the 4k cover better than the steelbook.
Do you really?
Yeah the 4k the steelbook is just a picture of Shang Chi just like standing there like
looking menacing but the 4k cover is him like remember when it's him and oh my god what
is what is his dad's name I know he goes by like many names but what's his like name that
he usually goes by?
Oh balls.
You know I'm just gonna call him the Man-Brick.
Yeah that's what I was gonna say.
Okay because he did say he's yeah okay but so you remember that one scene that's like
on like every poster where like both of them are like doing their their ring thing with
yeah with their fists so it's it's just Shang Chi but he's doing that on the cover.
I think that looks so much better than just a very very close-up of Shang Chi just on
the steelbook.
Kind of it's a little boring honestly but so the the the cover is boring but then the
inside is exactly the shot that I just said but now you're adding his dad.
So I like the inside artwork it's just I wish that the front was a little better.
Dude I think one that would have been really cool is doing that scene where they're holding
the the rings like that and kind of doing like that grapple from like a different perspective
doing it from like a top down perspective.
Oh yeah that would be really cool.
Yeah that would have been like way cool and then have the like the ten rings logo just
kind of around them and then Shang Chi on the top.
Oh my gosh that would have been dope.
Dude I swear Caleb needs to design design steelbooks like come on.
Dude freaking designing our our episode artworks hard enough and now that I've thrown in animation
with it.
Alright fair enough fair enough.
But so yeah so it's getting a regular 4k release a steelbook release as well as a target exclusive
4k release and I think I talked a couple weeks ago about this how like it's kind of boring
to me.
Some people might like it but just for me it's kind of boring.
It's literally just the ten rings like it looks like the ten rings like traveling through
space there's like a lot of blue going on in the background the rings just swishing
by.
I don't know it's like it looks cool for what it's going because it's supposed to be like
an art edition of it.
I don't know it just doesn't do it for me.
I mean I get it.
But you know what if it does it for you guys that's great.
That is a target exclusive if you guys want to pick it up.
Yeah that that that is it for 4k spotlight so guys go pick up Shung Chi and the Legend
of the Ten Rings.
It's a great Marvel film.
Don't watch it on Disney Plus.
Go actually own the physical copy.
Or go watch it on Disney Plus.
No they need to own a physical copy.
No they don't Rose.
Yes they do.
Quick kind of shove that down people's throats.
I will continue to shove that down people's throats until the day that physical media
truly dies and I hope that never happens.
It's getting there.
Shut up.
Hey I'm just saying the day that physical media dies you don't get any free digital
codes.
I'm just saying.
That is an absolutely fair point.
Mic drop.
Alright but let's be real though.
If physical media dies eventually the blu ray players are going to die out.
And then one day you are not going to be able to watch your physical media anymore because
you will not be able to find a blu ray player for super cheap and guess who's account you're
going to want to bum off.
I mean I already do that anyway but yeah okay you got a point there.
See we're helping each other.
I'm creating.
Yeah.
You're buying the content that is slowly dying out and I am keeping a digital version of
that collection for you.
So you're welcome.
Thanks bro.
Thanks for having my back.
It's like man I just bought myself another couple months of free movies.
Oh shit.
That's how you do it folks.
I love it.
Alright first up with this week's sneak peeks or through the wall.
God damn sneak peeks has been dead forever.
Yeah it has.
Sorry.
Wow.
Doing a little throwback for you guys.
With through the wall we got our first official trailer for turning red.
The new Pixar film coming out next year.
And like Caleb said we both thought this was called red even after watching the damn trailer.
But this looks very interesting apparently.
So it's about a girl that is the kind of girl that like doesn't give a shit about what anyone
thinks about her.
She does what she wants.
She wears what she wants.
She loves her little group of friends that she has.
They love hanging out with each other.
They get each other.
But then one day, well no one night she has like kind of like a, would you say it's a
dream or would you say it's like a, what's the word?
A god damn it.
Like a vision?
There we go.
Yeah let's go with that.
Of basically in her heritage there is, oh my god what is it, like there's like, what
is it, like the red panda like runs in their family that like this thing will happen to
where if like a certain, wasn't it like a certain like emotion takes you over you turn
into the red panda?
It seems like it's strong emotions.
Yes that's what it is.
Oh sorry you go ahead.
No that's all I was going to say.
It just seems like it's very strong emotions.
But if I had to take a guess, I'd say it's more of a vision or just like that unlocking
of that curse or ability or whatever.
Yeah so basically you know she turned to a red panda.
She of course freaks out and apparently her mom says that it runs in the family.
I would literally be like these are the shittiest genes I've ever seen.
Thanks mom.
Dude I thought red pandas were like super small.
I didn't even know there were red pandas.
Yeah um.
I'm gonna see.
That was just black and white pandas.
Red pandas.
They're like 8 to 14 pounds.
Damn.
Yeah they really are small.
Yeah they're like little dinky creatures.
Like why is her panda so freaking big?
Yeah I mean okay.
Guess that's an interesting choice by Pixar.
Yeah maybe it's just like oh they're like a mystical red panda.
Huh.
Yeah I am not.
Oh let's see.
Oh is there a giant big panda?
It is roughly the size of a domestic cat with a longer body.
That's it?
Yeah.
Wow okay.
Wow.
That's all I can say about that is just wow okay.
So okay.
But yet no in this universe the freaking red panda is god it seems like what like 7 or
8 feet?
Yeah unless this is like a weird reverse world where they're just like all really tiny.
That would be one hell of a trip that they explain at the end of the movie.
That would be hilarious.
It's just like nope they're just all super small and she becomes a normal sized red panda.
Did you know in like a red panda is actually what the what's his face Shifu from Kung Fu
Panda is?
I didn't.
Yeah he's a little red panda.
Oh.
Oh good to know.
You know what's really sad?
I still have not seen Kung Fu Panda 2 or 3.
You're not missing a lot.
Oh really?
Um they I'll say that Kung Fu Panda is definitely the best of the three.
Okay.
Duh.
Two.
Fair.
Two was was okay not as good as the first and then the third one was just a little bit
too much like it just kind of followed the same formula like with each go where it was
oh someone didn't think that he could do this one thing he trains really well has this fight
and then they show off this one ability that oh only like great masters can do this and
then he eventually like does it at the end as a finishing move.
Okay that's that's interesting.
Yeah like I don't yeah it's it's weird they're um they're very formulaic it's kind of like
if you've watched the first one you've you've basically seen the premise for the others.
Okay kind of hate when sequels do that but okay.
Yeah it sucks but I mean I turned turned on Kung Fu Panda 2 and 3 as background noise.
Okay.
And like I had a decent enough time like there were some jokes that I caught that were pretty
funny other than that it's not one you really have to pay super close attention to like
I just say if you want something that's going to be good background noise do that.
Are you shitting me?
Okay oh really quickly I'm sorry before and we'll get back to talking about the trailer
I promise but really quickly have you um did you know that Clifford the big red dog is
Yeah it's yeah it's on Paramount Plus too.
Oh snap.
I'm gonna warn you right now though the when he's just like a little puppy still the CGI
is just as bad as you thought it was.
Oh great.
Yeah I'm like oh I'm biting my lip about how bad that looks.
Okay good movie though.
Well I haven't watched it all yet.
Oh yeah.
So far though like I'm actually like it's it's very innocent it's not like great but
like it like I feel it's like appreciating the source material so far.
Okay like innocent as in like Stuart Little levels of innocent.
Yes.
Okay.
I would say that.
That's a great comparison.
Yeah I didn't hate Stuart Little's but so.
I actually love Stuart Little.
Yeah I okay I might actually check it out tomorrow like that on while Iris is playing.
Yeah there we go.
I just need to finish it now.
But getting back to the other thing that is red big red turning red god damn it not big
red.
Oh wow.
It's gonna be one of those episodes.
Oh yeah.
It starts early.
Yep.
It starts very early.
Anyway so I mean I know me and Caleb were talking about this earlier.
This is like the first like thing that we've seen to where like it actually like we get
the story that's happening here because the teaser trailer I was like kind of confused
as hell what was going on because literally one minute she's just sitting in her classroom
like talking to her teacher and then the next she like turns into a red panda.
I'm just like what the hell just happened.
So I'm glad to know like why it happens.
Yeah exactly.
Yeah I wasn't completely sold on on the movie until this trailer like it looks like it's
going to be super funny.
A lot of people are pointing out it's very similar to American Dragon.
Remember that show.
I do and I am so okay with that because I loved that show growing up.
Yeah so it was like this thing that runs in the family of him being able to turn into
a dragon but like kind of just different here where it's the same thing.
But what a lot of people are really appreciating and I really appreciate too is that this isn't
one where it's like oh she obtains this ability and she has to hide it from friends and family
while also dealing with this like social life and accepting of herself or trying to become
the cool kid in school.
Like her friends know her family knows and she's just trying to get back to maybe that
that level of confidence that she originally had while trying to control her panda abilities.
Like it's just trying to get back to where she was instead of like trying to obtain a
higher level of status in the school system.
Yeah which I appreciate and I mean would you what was your favorite moment of the trailer?
Honestly it was probably the dodgeball scene where she just freaking panda like hulked
out and threw the ball.
Dude I would hate to see.
I would hate to have seen if the kid didn't duck.
His head would have gotten taken off.
Probably.
Gosh like such a great little moment and I love like the vibe of this too.
It doesn't this is Pixar?
Yes.
I love how this doesn't quite feel like everything else Pixar's done.
It kind of has an anime feel to it.
It does especially I don't know like the animation feels a little different than what Pixar has
done like I mean like the humans still kind of look like Pixar humans but I don't know
it feels a little different and I like it.
Yeah for those of you who haven't seen it the way that I would describe this is if I
mean if you haven't seen okay the Mitchell's versus the Machines animation if that were
to meet Pixar.
Yeah yeah that's a good comparison.
It's just that very like sharp like everything seems to have like a lot of weight and like
snaps into place but also feels like not super two-dimensional.
I don't know I have no idea how to describe it other than that other than the Pixar with
a little maybe even okay for those of you who haven't seen the Mitchell's versus the
Machines like if it was like trying to like compare it to another movie maybe Into the
Spider-Verse became a little bit more three-dimensional.
Okay yeah yeah I like that.
It's Pixar and Sony animation's love child.
Yes oh yeah cuz yeah I forgot Mitchell's versus the Machines is also a Sony animation.
Yep.
Yeah I mean I would say my favorite moment was the freaking stall scene where the girl
the so she turns into the red panda and a girl as she's like turning into the panda
comes out of the stall and it's just like oh and before she can get to the finisher
G she just pushes her back into the stall with her paw.
That's really freaking funny.
If this trailer has any indication to how well this is going to be written like I'm
so hyped.
I'm so hyped.
Yeah me too.
Yeah when is it?
So it comes out in 2022 right?
Oh good question.
Dude I'm so bad at paying attention to the release date.
Yeah so March 11th of 2022.
Oh hell yeah.
I just might have to go check that out.
Yeah same here.
Future review?
Probably.
Yeah definitely probably.
Yeah we could basically guarantee that.
Any other thoughts about turning our trailer?
Not really.
What's your anticipation level?
Probably like a seven and a half.
I'd agree with you.
Like I'm excited enough probably not going to be like oh I need to see an opening day
or opening weekend or anything like that but I'm excited enough to go see it when it's
probably still in theaters.
Yeah this might be like say I'm like clocking out of work and I'm just like you know what
I kind of feel like seeing a movie today this is what.
Yeah exactly.
That's exactly how I feel.
So yeah about seven and a half.
Alright.
What about you?
Uh same.
Yeah absolutely yeah.
Hell yeah.
But um okay so that's it for turning red trailer.
Moving on we just want to give our quick initial thoughts of the first two episodes of Hawkeye.
Those came out today November 24th.
You guys can go watch those right now and you guys should do that because the show is
freaking great.
Are we addressing spoilers or are we going to try doing the spoiler free?
What do you think we should do?
That's a tough one because it came out today.
So by the time this gets released Hawkeye will only have been out for four days.
Yeah so let's yeah let's keep the spoiler free.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um yeah overall this show so far is not disappointing me at all.
Um I know a lot of people have uh shared complaints that you know it's called Hawkeye but the
first two episodes really don't share focus on uh Clint Barton.
It's kind of more so Kate Bishop's storyline and introducing her and I am absolutely okay
with that.
I think that's great.
Um her storyline is fantastic with her uh with her um you know her uh her relationship
with her mom.
Um the way that she actually like is introduced to Hawkeye and uh the um how she picks up
uh you know like the learning archery and all that fun stuff.
It's really really well executed.
I loved it.
Um and the people like like I said people complaining about oh it's called Hawkeye but
it focuses on Kate Bishop.
Guys read the comics.
She takes up the lives of Hawkeye as well.
There's two Hawkeyes in Marvel.
Yep.
Um so like yeah I'm okay that Renner's uh Clint is not pro- he's not very prominent
in the first episode but I feel he's very prominent in the second episode just because
at that point Kate and Clint have actually like met each other.
Um so yeah like uh everything that we're getting with the tracksuit mafia is great.
Um I thought that like they would seem like very campy and they are but it's working.
I'm loving it.
Um yeah the the um dynamic between uh Renner and Steinfeld is great.
They are amazing as Clint and Kate both are just incredible.
I can't wait to see the rest the rest of the show.
The next four episodes should be amazing.
Yeah it's just amazing.
Go watch it.
That's all I gotta say.
Yeah um I mean just to freaking top off what Rose said it is very well executed.
It does like honestly I don't even think they needed to do a two episode release.
Like they had me hooked off the first one.
Yeah same here.
So just knowing that I had a second I was just like ooh yeah.
I mean it's understandable why they did it though because you know they want to finish
the series uh like right before Christmas instead of after.
Yeah.
So that makes sense.
But everything that they've done so far has kept me intrigued.
Everything like it's just it's working in the best possible way and I think this kicks
off like action wise probably just as strong if not stronger than Falcon and the Winter
Soldier.
Yeah I agree even though this series is definitely more grounded because you know that's why
I love about the show.
I love grounded superheroes.
That's why Hawkeye is my favorite.
So the fact that it's just you know like people fighting in like alleyways of course you know
like it's just Clint and Kate with their bow and arrows.
I love that kind of shit and they're doing great with it so far.
Yeah they're doing super good.
I'm definitely excited for the future of the show.
Yeah.
Ah so excited.
Yeah but I think that's as far as we can get without getting into spoilers.
Yeah so honestly I feel once the show concludes do you want to like give our like full or
I mean well because you know we never did it with all the any of the other Marvel shows
so I don't know.
We can get a bonus episode if you want.
Dude I'd actually be down for that if you're up for it.
Dude you know I can talk a lot about Hawkeye.
Yeah we can definitely figure something like that out.
Sweet.
Okay cool.
So maybe expect something big with Hawkeye for a future episode we'll see.
Or sorry a bonus episode.
But yeah so moving on before I get any more of a Hawkeye hard on.
No I think that's possible.
You know what fair enough because yeah.
Yeah you know fair enough.
Yeah dude like honestly when like freaking Clinton Kate first like started talking like
when yeah like freaking like my heart was like racing I'm like oh my god this is actually
happening Clinton Kate are actually meeting in the MCU.
This is amazing.
But okay so yeah.
It sounds like you turn into that dude from Iron Man 3 where he's talking to his mom and
he's like mom I gotta go something magical is happening.
Exactly yeah.
That is the perfect way to explain it.
So moving on to well let's move on to our All Bros headliner of the evening.
What do you say?
I say let's do it.
Alright.
So for this week's All Bros headliner we will be breaking down the highly anticipated
Ghostbusters Afterlife film.
Hell yeah.
Dude I don't know why but when I went to go see this movie Brielle was so confused she's
just like didn't this movie come out like two years ago.
I have no idea why she thinks that but.
I mean it was pushed back like four damn times so you know understandable.
That's fair I did not remember that.
Okay so you know what understand Brielle.
But so I think we forgot to share the question of the week didn't we?
We sure did.
Yeah we suck.
Well it was going to be well wasn't it going to be what was your favorite piece of ghostbusting
equipment?
Yeah.
Do you have a favorite?
Honestly after this I really like the RC Trap.
Yeah dude that thing was cool as hell.
That was super cool but other than that I'm kind of partial to the proton pack.
Yeah same here like honestly it will all day every day will be the proton pack.
I was between that and the Ecto-1.
I don't know it's hard to pick between those two because they're both such amazing pieces.
Yeah I'm actually glad that we got to see a little bit more like the inner workings
of Ecto-1.
Yeah that was really cool.
Yeah I appreciated that as well.
Before well okay so yeah so that was supposed to be our question of the week but sorry guys
we did not post it because we suck.
But yeah so moving on.
Caleb would you like to tell people how we break down movies on this podcast?
Hell yeah.
Alright if you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different
categories that we individually score to come to a final Albrows letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.
Then all of that magic gets added up thrown into our algorithm and then spits out a letter
grade for us.
Hell yeah buddy.
Hell yeah.
I don't know why I said that.
So if you have not seen Ghostbusters Afterlife, feel free to pause it.
What the hell is wrong with you?
We have 32 years for this damn movie.
Go check this movie out, come back, and then listen to our breakdown.
We are going to spoil the entire freaking movie so if you have not seen it after this
point and we spoil it for you, too bad so sad.
Yeah.
No remorse here.
Yeah no remorse.
Without further ado, Rose would you like to read off the synopsis for us?
I would love to.
Alright so 32 years after stopping the, wow I'm already screwing up, despotic spirit Vigo,
the Ghostbusters have disbanded after a decline in supernatural activities in New York City.
Egon Spangler has relocated to Summerville, Oklahoma where Gozerian cultist Ivo Shandor's
mining operations are located.
Egon captures a bestial entity from one of the mines, aiming to lure a more powerful
entity to his farm to trap it.
When the trap fails, he runs inside his farmhouse, hiding the ghost trap in a secret compartment
located beneath the living room floor.
Egon struggles with an entity similar to his captive before his quarry and suffers a fatal
heart attack.
Callie, Egon's estranged daughter and her two children, Trevor and Phoebe, are evicted
from their city apartment and move to Egon's farm, which he has left to Callie.
Trevor meets a local girl, Lucky, and gets a job at the diner where she works.
Phoebe is enrolled in a summer science class at a local middle school.
Her mentor is eccentric seismologist Gary Gruberson, whom Callie later dates.
Janine Melnitz informs Callie that Egon has left enormous debts and the house and land
are worthless.
Phoebe discovers the house is haunted and finds a PKE meter under Egon's chair.
An unseen ghost leads her to the hidden ghost trap while Trevor finds and repairs the dilapidated
Ecto-1 vehicle.
Lucky takes Trevor to an old mineshaft with her friends where they encounter a glowing
apparition.
Phoebe shows the ghost trap to her new friend podcast and Gary reveals he is an aspiring
ghost buster conducting his own investigation on Somerville.
Despite not sitting on an epicenter, the town has been consistently experiencing strange
earthquakes which he suspects have a supernatural cause.
Gary, Phoebe, and podcast tamper with the ghost trap and the bestial entity revealed
to be one of the demigod Gozer's minions escapes into Shandor's mine.
The ghost leads Phoebe to an underground lair where Egon kept his equipment.
Realizing the ghost is her grandfather, Phoebe repairs Egon's proton pack under his direction.
She and podcast test it the next day when they encounter Muncher, a metal-eating ghost,
but Muncher initially escapes, captures, and flees into Somerville.
Master Phoebe informs Trevor that they are descendants of a ghost buster, the trio-chase
Muncher, in the Ecto-1 god and successfully capture him.
However, the police arrest them for property damage confiscating the Ecto-1 and other ghost
busting gear.
Phoebe calls the ghost buster's number and reaches Ray Stantz.
He explains that when Egon's teammates doubted his belief in the coming apocalypse, he then
stole the car and gear and moved to Somerville.
Trevor, Phoebe, Lucky, and Podcast find a temple dedicated to Gozer inside the mine.
They also find Evo Shandor in suspended animation and a device Egon set up to contain any potential
incursion by Gozer whose escape attempts are causing the earthquakes.
Gary and Callie are possessed by Gozer's minions Vince Clortho and Zul the Gatekeeper, respectively,
and go to Shandor's mine.
The Keymaster destroys Egon's containment system allowing Gozer to manifest and Shandor
to awaken.
The former then kills the latter.
The kids discover Egon's plan to trap Gozer and, donning the ghost buster's jumpsuits,
they enter the mine to enact it.
Phoebe distracts Gozer and Podcast trap Zul, freeing Callie and causing Gozer's form to
falter.
They flee the mine to Egon's farm, drawing Gozer there, but the trap fails and Gozer
frees Zul.
Zul possesses Lucky and Gozer is restored.
Ray arrives with Peter Venkman and Winston Zedmore to aid the Spanklers and their friends,
but Gozer overpowers them by uncrossing their proton streams.
Phoebe battles Gozer herself and Egon's ghost materializes beside his granddaughter to help.
Phoebe and the Ghostbusters restrain Gozer while Trevor charges the trap with his proton
pack and the traps are triggered, capturing Gozer and its minions within them.
Egon reconciles with his family and friends before vanishing into the afterlife.
After getting acquainted with the group, the surviving original Ghostbusters return to
New York City with the Ecto-1 and equipment.
In a mid-credits sequence, Venkman and Dana Barrett play with Venkman's ESP cards and
shock machine, while a post-credits sequence reveals Winston as a wealthy family man who
uses his resources to maintain the Ghostbusters' properties.
He has the Ecto-1 completely restored and placed in their old firehouse.
In the final shot, a warning light is shown blinking on the firehouse's Ecto-containment
unit.
Oh wow, how did I screw that one up so bad?
A for effort.
Thank you, appreciate it.
Alright starting off with this one, the story, we are sitting at a 91 for this one.
Hell yeah.
I feel that this is a very good direction to take a Ghostbusters 3 film.
I feel it's kind of hard to, I don't know, I would struggle taking it any other direction
knowing that they're, you know, unfortunately we lost Harold Ramis so it would be hard to
do anything bringing the original 3 back to be like main plot points of the film just
because you'd still feel like you'd be missing someone.
So the idea that it's focused on Egon's family with his daughter, his granddaughter and his
grandson and how his granddaughter Phoebe discovers that he was a Ghostbuster, discovers
how much he loves science and how much she relates to her grandfather.
It's very heartfelt and it's very based on family and I really liked what they did with
this film for a Ghostbusters movie.
Yeah I really dug it too.
I don't know, they did a really good job with this.
This is exactly what I feel Force Awakens had the potential to be.
Yes because it doesn't spit in the face of the original.
Yeah exactly.
And I say that, I say that even though I actually like the Force Awakens but like Caleb said
yeah this is the right way to do that kind of movie.
Yeah like they definitely, like I think the reason, because out of the two of us I was
the one that was a little bit harsher on the story and the only reason that I was that
harsh was because it kind of in a way was a rehashing of the original story but it made
sense.
It didn't, like I think it hit all the notes that it needed to but they made everything
make sense.
So like one of the things that they incorporated which I thought was really cool, the mine
that they got all of the metal, like there was a mine with some metal or some sort of
ancient metal that was supposed to harness the power for Gozer or kind of summon Gozer,
the big bad ghost from the original.
So the way that they portrayed this was really cool or the way that they justified the building
that Gozer was summoned to in the original was built using the metal mined from the,
what do you want to call it, Springfield?
It's not Springfield.
Summerville.
Nice Simpsons reference though.
I know, I've been watching Simpsons like way too much.
So the way that they summoned Gozer was with the metal mined from Summerville and so that's
why they were able to summon that in New York and so that's why the things were happening
where they were happening in Summerville and I really like that.
Like just that, like okay then why did they come in to New York?
Like why were they trying to summon that lady in New York?
And just the way that they, the justification of that was just like, oh, chef's kiss.
Yeah, it really was.
And it also explained really well what happened to the Ghostbusters.
Like, yeah they tried making a business of ghostbusting, business was really good, and
then the hauntings just became slower and slower and slower because Gozer was kind of
the head of it all.
And even like Egon was apparently stated like none of these small hauntings matter anymore
compared to this big one, this like world ending one.
So I thought like all of that, the way that they were just able to tie in the original
and Paul, all of that other shit off was just so well done.
Yeah, it really was.
And I just really want, really quickly want to talk about the ending to this film because
it has been a while since I frickin' ugly cried in a film.
When Egon's ghost first shows up, I was in awe, but as it went on and you see that, especially
when it starts panning out and it's kind of like a, it's Phoebe and Egon, but then they
pan it out to where it's actually the four original Ghostbusters lined up again.
And that, yeah, that's when I frickin' started like really like happy crying.
And then when they like say one final goodbye to Egon, I just frickin' lost it.
It's like, no.
Oh my gosh.
Dude talk about like expert craftsman.
Like they made Egon such a significant part of this movie and there's no other way that
you could do it.
No.
Like it was, ah, so well done.
So well done.
And he played a much bigger role in this than I thought he was going to.
Yeah, same here.
Like honestly, I wasn't expecting them to actually like him to be like the opening sequence.
I mean like you never actually see his face because you know, of course they got to hide
that because unfortunately her old Ramus passed away.
But for what they were able to do with everything at the beginning with him, you know, hiding,
you know, catching the one ghost, hiding the trap, dealing with like everything that was
going on, like honestly, camera work alone was actually really good with what they had
to do with hiding his face.
Yeah, it was really well done.
And the fact that they like, I figured that they were going to kind of like bring him
back in some way, but I wasn't expecting them to like do a full reveal of him as a ghost.
I wasn't either.
Like that was just like, so good.
Like, because Phoebe's like using the proton pack and just blasting the shit out of Gozer
and then like is losing her footing.
But then like, you just see these ghost hands grab on.
I'm like, no way.
Aren't they going to do this?
And I thought they were just going to show, like show the hands and maybe like pan up
to like Phoebe's face where maybe her face was like right in line with his jumpsuit.
And you would just see Spangler on it.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
So I thought we were just going to see that and then have like a reaction moment from
the original Ghostbusters.
And but no, like when they panned up to his face, I was just like, are you shitting me?
Like this is freaking awesome.
And then like with how much of a role he had after that, like they did not hesitate to
show his face again at all.
And I love that.
Yeah and like kudos to them for like getting that ghost to really look like Harold Ramis
because they killed it.
You know what I'm willing to bet that they did?
I'm willing to bet that what they because how long ago did Harold Ramis pass?
He passed away and like, was it recent or was it like a while ago?
It was a while ago.
Okay.
So what I'm willing to bet that they did is they took a picture of Harold Ramis and then
just aged it like the best that they could.
And then yeah, and then did like all the the other things like adding the beard and the
hair.
And I think that they were really smart with adding a beard on to him.
Because that's the biggest thing that I think de-aging messes up.
It's always the lower face.
They get the upper face like usually spot on, but it's the lower face that they screw up.
So I'm glad that they were like, just hide that shit.
No, and honestly made sense because Harold Ramis got when he in his older years, it was
very rare when you saw him without a beard.
I think he always had a beard.
Oh, yes, I didn't realize that.
I thought that they-
Now you're good.
Okay.
That actually tracks.
So he unfortunately passed away in 2014.
Well that's that's fairly recent.
Oh, well, I don't know your recent.
I don't know what your version of fairly recent and kind of like a long time ago is.
Okay, my idea of like a long time ago or like a while ago was like late 90s, early 2000s.
Okay, fair enough.
But now he died in the 2010s.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
So yeah, like everything that they did regarding him was I thought was really, really well done.
Also a little bit glad that they didn't make him talk.
I was very happy about that.
It would have been weird.
Like someone's voice other than Harold Ramis coming out of Egon Spangler's ghost.
Yeah, I think they just did a really, really excellent job with handling Spangler because
you can't like there was no other way to handle this.
I feel.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Because you couldn't just not have him in it at all.
Because Ghostbusters, especially if you're bringing back the original cast members.
Yeah.
And it's Ghostbusters.
Like even if you didn't want to break, like even if you didn't like just wanted to ignore
him or just be like, oh, he was dead.
It's Ghostbusters.
Like you need to bring him back as a ghost.
Yeah.
So just.
You always.
Yeah.
You always relate Ghostbusters to the original four Ghostbusters.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I thought that was really well done.
And even though this was kind of a rehashing of the original story.
I didn't hate it at all.
Yeah, I think what.
Their Force Awakens suffered is that they were just they were retelling a new hope without
addressing that they were they were adre are recreating a new hope.
Yeah, this they they very much address that this has happened before in the eighties.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I.
Oh, so good.
Oh, you know, I.
I'll admit, I was very shocked that when Phoebe calls Ray and she's just like you were and
what was it?
You and Egon Spangler were good friends, right?
And he just says Egon Spangler can rot in hell.
I'm like, God damn, what the hell happened to you guys?
With that, it didn't even it didn't feel like it was too aggressive either.
Like it just felt like the way that he said it was just kind of like how how guys approach
it.
You could tell that there was a lot of sadness behind what he said.
Yeah.
Which.
Yeah, which tracks?
I mean, Spangler just kind of packed up and ran.
Yeah.
And so they you could you could tell like these guys were hurt by it.
Yeah.
And then like his his attitude changed the second that he heard that that Egon was was
gone.
Yeah.
Also, that seems proves that Dan Arkwood still has got it with acting.
Yeah.
But I mean, overall, even though it is a rehashed story.
It is very well done and makes sense, like why they brought it back.
Yeah.
And let's hope that they keep Ghostbusters back because we all know what happened last
time when they tried to bring it back.
Fair enough reaction.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
But yeah, so story is sitting at a ninety one.
Moving on over to writing.
We are sitting at a ninety one point five.
All right.
Hell, yeah.
Yeah.
Just slightly higher.
What did you think of the writing?
The writing was super solid, honestly.
I'd say the only one that I had a problem with when it came to the writing was Finn
Wolfhard's character, Trevor.
I don't know.
His writing just came across like his character honestly just came across as like kind of
really, you know, I'm just going to say really bitchy.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Like if there was a character that could have easily been written out, it was Finn.
Yeah.
Which sucks because Finn is a good actor.
Yeah.
His character was completely unnecessary for the only reason he is there is because he's
the only one that knows how to work on cars.
He's the only one that knew how to fix up Ecto-1.
Yeah.
Which I think you could have just done that with anyone.
Hell, actually, I think it would have been really cool if they brought like Paul Rudd's
character, Gary, to the farmhouse and that's when they discover like, so yeah, we write
Trevor out of the story.
It's just Phoebe.
He's an only child and she brings Gary to the barn and they discover Ecto-1 and freaking
he freaks out and he's just like, can I please work on this?
Like, can I please fix it up?
I wouldn't even like gone that far.
I would have just made Phoebe like really mechanically inclined and then have and then
you just have like an extra scene where like basically just take out all of the freaking
Finn Wolfhard scenes and throw in more ghost interactions with Egon and having him guide
Phoebe into fixing the Ecto-1.
Okay, fair.
I mean, he did that with the damn.
Proton pack?
Yeah.
Why couldn't you have done that with the Ecto-1?
I mean, he technically kind of did that for Trevor though.
When he's like keeps trying to start it up and when he finally says, come on, darling,
Egon's ghost fuses the fuses together that were.
Oh, yeah.
I don't count that.
I think that would have worked with Phoebe just as well.
No, no, no, I can agree with that.
I mean, like I didn't hate his character, but just the writing wasn't that great.
Yeah.
I mean, how did you feel?
Okay, because I want your opinion when it jumps into the, you know, like, of course,
like the beginning is just, you know, like kind of establishing like what happened with
Egon?
Well, technically it's not said that that is Egon, but I kind of figure.
Well, no, not everybody knows, but you know, it sets up his character well when you do
actually find out that was Egon.
But when we're introduced to, what's her name?
What's the mom's name?
Callie.
So when we're introduced to Callie, Trevor and Phoebe, I don't know about you, but honestly,
like it feels like so freaking abrupt.
Like I feel like we really don't get like a whole chance, like a big chance to understand
who this family is because literally it, it jumps, jumps right into the, the mom giving
Trev, Callie giving Trevor a haircut, Phoebe fixing an electrical system.
They get evicted and then bam, they're already at the farmhouse.
It feels like we kind of missed like a little bit of what should have happened before that.
Honestly I feel like the beginning of this movie, drug on a little slow.
So I wasn't super upset that they kind of rushed the intro to the, the new main characters.
Okay.
That's fair.
No, I absolutely agree.
It did drag on for a little bit at the beginning.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm still happy with my story.
Great.
Like what I, as am I, that was just one of those things that, and I think that could,
it definitely could have been a writing issue.
Yeah.
And this is where I feel like getting rid of, of Trevor.
That's his name, right?
Yes.
And Wolfheart's.
And this is where I think getting rid of Trevor would have really helped because then you
could get into more ghost busting stuff and not this like ridiculous teen romance shit.
Yeah.
Hell, honestly, I would have taken it if it was just, they somehow still met Lucky and
it was just Lucky podcast and Phoebe.
Cause I actually really liked Lucky.
Yeah, I did too.
But I don't think you needed to like force her in through Trevor.
I think you could have just gone through maybe Phoebe and podcast were hanging out at the
diner and Lucky overheard and was just kind of, is kind of interested in like that kind
of stuff.
Yeah.
And just wanted to be part of it.
Like that you could have so easily written Trevor out.
Yeah.
Nothing against Finn Wolfheart, great actor.
It's just the character of Trevor could have been written very much better.
Yeah.
Like the only thing that he did of any sort of significance in this besides fixing the
Ecto-1 was he was someone that like drove the car.
Yeah, that and he's the one that was able to turn on the big trap at the end.
Yeah.
But you could have done that with anyone.
Podcast could have done that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I felt bad for podcasts.
He never actually got to hold a proton pack.
I know, it's such bullshit.
Yeah.
Poor kid.
Yeah.
So I wish that they basically would have just split up whatever Trevor did between podcast
and Phoebe and maybe given Lucky a bit more to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Honestly, I thought like Lucky was going to be the one character that I feel was unnecessary.
No, it's, it's Trevor.
Like the one that I liked the least out of the four new Ghostbusters, technically.
Yeah, no, it's Trevor.
Yeah, she kind of gets the Ernie Hudson treatment.
She does.
But I mean, what she is given she does great with.
Yeah, which is a little on.
I mean, I'll say this, it's borderline racist because she is the only black character.
I mean, I guess you could say that with the 2016 one as well because Leslie Jones's character
Patty, it's the same thing.
I feel like she had more to do though.
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it seems that it's always the black actor,
African American actor that is like not the scientist.
Right.
And interesting, but yet with Ghostbusters Afterlife, you can argue that because Trevor
isn't a scientist either.
Yeah.
Well, I'll give you that.
Yeah, I mean, podcasting.
I think they were just so, so for pushing for four characters.
Yeah, I wish you don't get it.
Yeah, I think that they just they didn't need to do that.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I agree.
Like, I'm pretty sure we all would have been perfectly fine if there was only three Ghostbusters
or three new Ghostbusters and then three alive old Ghostbusters with the fourth Egon.
Yeah.
Like, I think I think we would have been perfectly okay.
No, yeah, yeah, absolutely agree.
I mean, that's just like a minor writing issue, because, I mean, obviously, it's just we're
a half point above the story.
Yeah.
So definitely liked the writing a little more.
Yeah, just just a little just a hair, just a hair.
Yeah.
Little hair on your chinny chin chin.
Everything else, though, I think was really well done.
Like the the dynamic between Phoebe and podcast, it did have this this the sense of awkwardness
that they they quickly got over.
Yeah.
Can we talk about Phoebe's jokes?
Because those were amazing.
The best one to me is the What do you call a dead polar bear?
Anything you want, because I can't hear you.
Oh, dude, not even like that.
And I freaking love what they were saying between Callie and Phoebe, where they're just like,
oh, just, hey, don't be yourself.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Did you appreciate the like Paul Rudd's character?
Didn't like even though and then like this kind of goes with acting, too.
But like in a way, Paul Rudd's character didn't like overshadow like the like actual like
main Ghostbusters.
Yeah, I actually really like that they kind of pushed him to the side a little bit.
Yeah, I was OK with it.
Very reminiscent of.
Oh, shit.
I forget his name.
The original key master.
Oh, Rick Moranis.
Yes.
Like, it didn't give him too much to do, but just like a nice background character.
Yes.
So I really dug that.
Speaking of Paul Rudd, though, did you catch the the Ant-Man nod?
I don't know if I did.
I don't know if it was like an Ant-Man nod, but it was just the way that when he was going
through the the Walmart and picking out ice cream, all of the flavors that he was looking
at were Baskin Robbins.
Oh, I didn't even pick up on that.
Yeah.
OK, yeah, that would actually be a really nice nod to Ant-Man.
I thought that was funny.
I'm just like, ah, they did it.
It's something so stupid, but I'm just like, hey.
Oh, anyway.
But yeah, everything else like it's the movie really picked up the second they started getting
into Ghostbusting.
Yeah, when I feel when they like, honestly, after Phoebe fixes up the proton pack and
they first shoot off the proton stream when they're in that that abandoned guy, what does
podcast call it?
Rust City, whatever.
I feel that's like when the movie really finds its footing.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, how funny would it be if it was like that was the forty forty six minute mark?
Yeah.
For those of you that don't know, podcast has a podcast that apparently didn't find
its voice until episode forty six.
That'd be really funny.
That would be amazing.
That would be freaking hilarious.
It's like forty six minutes in like the movie really finds its voice.
Dude, I would shit my pants if that's that you plan that right.
And didn't you you plan that Jason Reitman, dude?
I the second that that movie comes out on like streaming or DVD, like whenever you you
get it, I'm going to skip like replay it, skip to the forty six minute mark just to
see what goes on.
Oh, I love it.
Trying to think of anything else, like just comedic bits were really well done.
Like we addressed like everything done with with Egon at the very end was really well
done and.
Nothing felt too out of place.
No.
And I think we have addressed it.
The only.
Writing that I feel is even a little bit wasted was Trevor.
Yeah.
Poor Finn Wolfhard.
Yeah, but it's hard to to drop the the writing grade any more than a ninety one and a half
just because like his character was just was that insignificant.
Like his his character did like doesn't affect the movie in any way, shape or form, doesn't
it?
Can't even really affect the grade.
Yeah.
You got a good point there.
Yeah, but.
Yeah, that ninety one and a half for writing and getting into acting.
It's a little bit lower.
We're sitting at an eighty seven.
OK, not bad.
Yeah.
So I think honestly the one that dropped it the most for me was Finn Wolfhard.
Yeah.
For exactly the reasons that we addressed like his character was just like so.
So wasted that it it did kind of bring me out of the movie anytime he was on screen.
Yeah, just he bitched about so much stuff.
Yeah, right.
Like, God, was that scene when they're well, the so the mom is taking the Trevor to work
and then Phoebe to school.
And he asked, like, if she's been working on her jokes and she what is it like she says,
like, what's the.
It was the Adam joke.
Yeah.
And I don't know, I feel like the comment says this is kind of me.
It's just like mom's like, well, that's funny.
He's like, no, it's not.
You know, drop me off here.
I don't want to be seen with you guys.
Yeah, like some of that stuff felt pretty odd.
But yeah.
I mean, it could have been worse.
No, yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
I think the one scene that I was like, right, he did just like lose my mind over was when
he was working and doing the inventory.
Like that just felt like such a stupid scene.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's it just wasn't performed very well, like neither Lucky nor Trevor were
very good.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, maybe it just be me, but I'd have a hard time acting if I had to
act inside of a freezer.
I feel like he's he's acted in worse, though.
Like worse conditions than a freezer.
OK, fair.
Also, I'd hate to have to do that kind of inventory.
F that.
Yeah, no joke.
All right, we didn't address like the the actors in this yet.
But first up, we got our main character, Phoebe, who is played by McKenna Grace, which I feel
she summoned her inner young Sheldon.
She did.
And I think that's really funny, considering that she actually plays a character on Young
Sheldon.
Yeah.
Like when she was talking, I just I got major young Sheldon vibes.
And I'm like, she probably just got like some direction from the kid who plays Young Sheldon.
Yeah.
Ian Arbitage.
Yeah.
So I thought that was really funny.
Next up, I would say podcast would be the next big character.
I would say that.
Like everyone's just kind of second fiddle to McKenna.
Podcast is kind of her right hand, who's portrayed by Logan Kim.
Then we got Trevor, who is portrayed by Finn Wolfhard.
Gruberson, who is played by Paul Rudd.
Callie, Phoebe and Trevor's mom, who was played by Carrie Coon.
Lucky who is played by Celeste O'Connor.
Then we got the original Ghostbusters, Peter Venkman, Ray Stans, and Winston Zedmore.
Is it Zedmore?
Or is it?
It's Zedmore.
Zedmore?
Wait, no.
Sorry, no, it's Zedmore.
Zedmore.
OK, yeah.
So Winston Zedmore, who was played by Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, and Ernie Hudson, respectively.
Actually, you know what?
I don't know.
I've heard it both ways.
I'm pretty sure I've heard it Zedmore and Zedamore.
God, now I don't even know.
You know what?
I'm going to go with Zedamore.
Yeah.
Dude, one thing I'm surprised at looking through this, looking through the cast list, I'm pretty
sure Egon was like a completely CGI character.
They don't have anyone credited as playing Egon.
Really?
Not even like the actual person that they used at the beginning?
I'm not seeing Egon on this list.
Wow.
OK.
I mean, the ghost at the ending, that one makes sense that, of course, that's all CGI.
I'm kind of feeling they would have someone there for reference at least.
Fair.
I feel if they ever do list the guy that plays him at the beginning, they'd probably just
put his title as dirt farmer.
That's what I thought that they would do, but they have the ghost farmer.
But, huh.
Let's see if this guy looks at anything like...
Maybe.
Hold on.
I'm going to look this up.
So it seems...
I mean, you were the one that found this out.
We took a small pause, but apparently the ghost farmer is what they're referring to
Egon as.
Yeah.
That's bullshit.
I mean, they should refer to him as the dirt farmer considering that's what everybody called
him.
Yeah, that's what I thought he would be.
I thought, well, for one, I thought they'd put him as Egon, and if they didn't put him
as Egon, I thought they would put him as the dirt farmer.
Yeah, right?
But no, they call him the ghost farmer, and he was portrayed by Bob Gunton, who did the
scene at the beginning and the mocap?
Yes.
Is that what you said?
Yep.
Interesting.
Anyway, so that's who played Egon, technically.
Yep.
All right.
So who out of this cast was your top three?
I have an idea of who your top three is, and I'll be surprised if we don't match a little
bit.
Not doing original Ghostbusters.
No, no, no, no, of course not.
They're in a movie for like five minutes, so no.
Okay, so yeah, top three.
Should I do three, two, one, or one, two, three?
Do three, two, one.
Okay, number three, I'm going to get to podcast.
Frickin' loved this kid.
I mean, you know, having a podcast really made me appreciate him even more.
I appreciated his work, and I appreciate that his podcast really found its voice around
episode 46.
Dude, I freaking love the way that people were talking to him, like with Gruberson when
they were walking into the house, and he's basically like, podcast is sitting there with
his mic, and he's basically just describing what the house is like, and Gruberson's like,
what are you doing, and he's just like, I'm painting a scene.
Yeah, I loved it.
So he was great.
Number two, I'm going to actually give to Lucky.
I don't know what it is.
I actually really liked her character.
I wish they would have done more with her, but everything that we got, I really, really,
really liked with her.
And I loved the part where she just freaking kicked open the door and just blasted that
proton back and goes.
It was such a badass moment.
And then number one, I feel this is probably going to be the same for both of us.
It's going to go to Phoebe.
Incredible character.
McKenna Grace really just brings out her young Sheldon while also feeling like her grandfather.
She really does feel like Egon Spangler, just a younger version, and I loved it.
Her quips, her jokes were amazing.
Yeah, number one for sure.
Loved her character.
Yeah, I'll definitely agree with you.
She's definitely top spot for me as well.
But my top two, or my top, my other two are actually different than yours.
Oh, hell yeah.
So my number two, I would actually give to a podcast.
Okay.
I thought he was just a really fun character.
And I know he was just kind of comedic relief, but he played it in such a way that it wasn't
annoying, which I feel is really easy to do with comedic characters.
Or not comedic characters, with characters that you know are very obviously the comic
relief.
And then my number three, I'm actually going to give to Gruberson, who was played by Paul
Rudd.
Hell yeah.
I thought the way that he was kind of the introduction to the Ghostbusters for Phoebe
and podcast was really great.
I loved the comment that he made to podcast when he said, I'm surprised you don't know
who the Ghostbusters are.
And podcast is just like, I'm so ashamed.
That was something I'm surprised.
I'm like, you like the paranormal.
Like, how do you not know the Ghostbusters?
Yeah, seriously.
So yeah, that's my top three.
I love it.
How did you feel?
Okay.
Talking about like characters that, you know, didn't make her top three.
How did you feel about Carrie Coon?
I thought she did good.
Honestly, like she just didn't crack my top three.
Honestly, probably sitting around four or five.
Yeah, I would agree.
Honestly, she'd probably be my number five and Paul Rudd would be number four.
Yeah.
My number four, like again, four or five would probably go to Lucky.
Okay.
But I mean, she like Lucky wasn't bad.
It was just, she was also just kind of a very weird side character.
Like I completely forgot that she was part of the plan when they were facing off against
Gozer at the damn farm.
That's fair.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, you're good.
Like the way that she just comes kicking out of the door, I'm just like, oh yeah.
Yeah, it kind of was disappointing that she didn't get to ride Necto One.
That was disappointing.
Yeah, I wasn't too upset about it.
Just because like I said, I forgot.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it's just me, but like when you strap on an original Ghostbusters jumpsuit, you
should have the honor to actually ride a Necto One.
This is me.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Like honestly, she's probably leaning more towards my number five than Callie is.
Okay, that's fair.
I getcha.
But like, it just depends on the circumstances that they would switch places.
But then Trevor is six for both of us, I'm assuming.
Trevor is like down below the original.
Damn.
Okay.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Sorry, Finn.
Like I'm pretty sure, yeah, the sheriff is probably higher than Trevor is for me.
Why?
Because he got to deliver the classic line.
Yeah, who you gonna call?
That was great.
I don't know why, but there's this bit in a Family Guy episode where Peter was talking
about when they say the title of the movie in the movie and they cut to this scene where
they're watching this movie and he says the title and he's just like, ah, he said the
thing.
And that's exactly what I did in my head when he said who you're gonna call.
I'm like, ah, he said the thing.
I love it.
But yeah, so acting, like we said, sitting at an 87.
Moving on over to character development.
We're sitting at an 87.5 and you're gonna have to explain to me why you went up so damn
high.
What am I at?
You're at a 95.
Damn, I didn't know I give it that high.
Yeah, I was down at like an 80.
So you're gonna have to explain this to me.
Honestly, I don't even really know if I can explain it.
You might have to be changing that score, old friend.
I'll have to do that.
Because I mean, I'm assuming we both did Phoebe, right?
Yes.
So from the get-go, you can definitely tell that Phoebe is an outcast.
She doesn't really like talking to a lot of people.
She doesn't have any friends.
Even in her old, in the old place where they used to live before they moved to Egon's farm.
But you can definitely tell that she's a social outcast.
But she loves science.
She loves working with, in that regard, that kind of stuff.
So just watching her story from starting off feeling like, like I said, I'm gonna keep
saying social outcast, to her discovering who her grandfather is and where her love
for science comes from.
And discovering that she is not kind of like the weird one of the family.
That there is actually someone that is just like her in the Spangler family.
And the fact that going towards the ending of her actually like basically making her
grandfather very proud, even though she got a little help from him defeating Gozer.
It's like a simple, I'd say it's a simple character growth.
But it's executed very well.
Or not character growth, character development.
Yeah, well, same thing.
So realistically, I would probably, I'd probably do like an 85.
I don't know why I said a 95.
I mean, hell, I didn't mean to talk you down that far, but...
No, but no, you got a point.
Yeah, Phoebe, like she, I think she had a decent enough arc.
Like you said, just kind of...
Just kind of, it wasn't even really much of an arc because she doesn't develop all that
much.
She just kind of sticks to her guns, more or less, throughout the entire thing.
Kind of has some growth when it comes to her friendships and maybe not pushing people away
like she does.
Or at least like Egon did.
And so it's just like seeing her communicate a little bit better.
And one thing that I'm wondering if they wrote her with autism, because the way that she
was explaining the podcast, when podcasts brought up like, oh, how do you feel about
Gruber and your mom?
And she's just like, oh, I hate it.
It makes me disgusting, but I don't show emotions like other people do on the outside, but on
the inside, I'm throwing up.
And I mean, I don't think that's something special to autistic people, but it could be.
Yeah, no, that's actually a really cool way to look at it.
I like that.
I never thought of that.
Yeah.
So I'm wondering if that's like how they wrote it.
And then with, I don't know, maybe just the way that Egon was originally portrayed, maybe
that's something that they were getting at as well with him.
Yeah.
Like, just like an idea that was sparked.
So anyway, just the only thing that got me that made me think, oh, maybe this isn't that,
was when she's like, oh, I work really well when I'm overstimulated.
And I'm like, I have not met a single autistic person that works well when they're overstimulated.
And I'm like, you probably have something else then.
But yeah, overall, I don't think she had too much of an arc other than trying to explain
like the ghost thing to everyone.
Yeah, which I mean, I mean, would you believe her?
It probably would have been a tough sell.
Yeah.
I think ghosts for me in general would be a really tough sell.
Like, even the chest board, I probably would have justified that away by being like, oh,
you probably just moved it in your sleep.
Fair.
But once she saw the chest piece move, that's when I'm, that's what I've been like, okay,
ghosts.
Yeah.
It's like, and I am moving and burning down this house.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, well, yeah, I mean, like I said, decent enough, not nothing too special.
Yeah.
So now it is sitting at an 82.5.
Yeah, that feels better.
All right, getting on over to effects.
So you're sitting at a 94.5.
Okay, I like it.
Yeah, the effects were great in this film.
It's definitely more of a, it feels kind of like a smaller scale Ghostbusters film, like
if you compare it to like the second one, at least a little bit, just because, you know,
like it takes place in this just kind of like rural town.
It's not played taking place in New York City anymore.
But any chance that they got to actually shoot off the proton gun looked incredible.
The proton stream coming out looked amazing.
Like I feel it's sometimes like hard to mess that up.
But whenever I see it going, it just gets gets me freaking hyped up and it looks amazing.
Honestly, I mean, all of the CGI effects looked really good as well as the practical effects.
I know as far as I know, the some shots of the terror dogs were actually practical.
I absolutely believe that.
They looked really good.
Yeah.
I almost would have believed that they just took the original models from the 80s Ghostbuster
and just repurposed them, like slapped on a fresh coat of paint or something like that.
I mean, if that is the case, that's freaking cool.
But I mean, I don't know what they did with those after they finished filming for that
original film.
Yeah.
Probably like covered in cement outside of Bill Murray's house.
There we go.
I do want to I noticed this in my second viewing of this.
And I'm assuming this is probably just because, you know, like the proton packs are so old
and, you know, like stuff changes over time for freaking 30 years.
Did you notice that like the red lights on the back of the proton pack, like the red
lights on the bottom, like the four circles?
Yes.
Did you notice that they were like flashing like very fast?
Yes.
So as far as I remember that in the first two, it's supposed to go kind of slow.
It goes one, one, one, one, one, one.
It's one single light going through each hole.
And so it was kind of weird seeing it just like all going like super fast.
Like it looked like just one big like giant red blinking light.
Well, maybe Egon made some modifications.
You don't know.
Okay, that's true.
Okay, okay, true.
Okay.
Yeah, but yeah, but okay.
That would make sense.
Well, okay.
Yeah, no, nevermind.
I was going to say that would make sense with his pack.
But what about the other freeze?
But okay.
Yeah, he kind of made those modifications years before he decided to leave Ghostbusters.
I'm just being very critical.
I don't I don't know.
It's just a weird thing that I like Psalms like, wait a minute.
That is such a minor thing to gripe about.
It's not a gripe.
It's just like something I noticed.
Could you imagine going to like the special effects or the the freaking props department
being like, hey, yeah, see these lights?
They're blinking a little too fast.
I'm like, that wasn't even like the biggest thing that they had an issue with.
The so getting into some of like the other like special effects, because like you said,
those those those hell dogs were terror dogs.
Terror dogs were a bit more practical, like split a bit more.
I really liked Muncher who like that looked super good.
Like if you probably could have told me that was partially practical and I probably would
have believed you.
Yeah, like no, like honestly, you can definitely tell that Muncher is like the slimer of this
movie and I was totally OK with that.
Like honestly, we didn't get to see Slammer.
I didn't really miss him.
I don't know why.
Like Muncher sufficed for me.
That's fair.
Maybe Muncher is like close relative.
Yeah, see, there we go.
At least we got the stay puffs back.
That is true.
I did very much enjoy seeing the stay puffs.
Dude, the fact that freaking one, some of them that are riding on the like floor vacuum and
they run over one of them and you can see like the white streak on the floor.
Like, oh my God.
Oh my.
It got dark very fast that scene.
It totally did.
Them walking or one of them walking across the the damn barbecue.
Just melting.
And then the other freaking one like skewing two of them and roasting them over the open
flame.
I'm like, what the hell?
I actually really like that scene a lot.
I thought that one was so much fun.
I don't know why, but the part that like had me like freaking laughing my ass off was when
the first one like falls and you can see like the marks of the shelf like appear on his
stomach.
I know.
That's really funny.
That was so good.
Everything looked like really freaking good.
I think there were some times where it looked a bit cartoony, like the mini puffs.
They looked pretty cartoony.
Yeah, but I wasn't bothered by that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel that's a good way to explain it.
Do you know everything that they did with Gozer looked really, really good?
Yeah.
Like you said, the proton blasts looked really good.
The traps looked really good.
Yeah, there wasn't anything that looked out of place or rubbery in the slightest.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Like everyone freaking heard us gush about how Egon looked.
Yeah.
That alone sets these effects super high.
Yeah, no joke.
I forget when Egon or when Phoebe and Egon are like standing next to the originals and
all the other ones are kind of looking at him and nodding or kind of tapping and look
over here.
Was that from the original?
Yes, kind of.
Because that's when they start to cross the streams.
Where they tap each other and look over?
Yes.
Why were they doing that in the original?
We're just going to have to watch the original, aren't we?
Yeah, we are.
Hashtag worth it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's always worth watching the original masterpiece of a movie.
Yeah.
We said everything looked crisp as hell.
Yeah.
Like I said, we gave this 94.5.
Getting into music, we are sitting at a nine.
Yeah, I had a feeling you weren't going up for a 10.
Not quite.
Understandable.
Okay, the Ghostbusters theme is iconic and will get stuck in your head.
Yeah.
The rest of the soundtrack on the other hand just did not do it for me.
It's many nods to the original movie.
I feel like a lot of the soundtrack is just like the classic, it's just like little bits
of the original soundtrack, which I loved.
But what sets it at a 10 for me, considering that we count actual sound effects and just
the use of sound in these films is the freaking proton pack first turning on and hearing the
blast.
But what really sets it for me is when you first hear the sirens of the Ecto-1 and roaring
at their finest and oh my God, I got a Ghostbusters boner at that moment.
Dude, I actually grew in appreciation for the Ecto-1 sirens because I originally thought
that they were so annoying.
Oh, I love them.
God damn it.
I've loved them from the day I heard them, but you know what?
I can understand that.
Yeah, so when they started using the sirens, I loved it.
I absolutely loved it.
The only complaint that I really have about that is I wish that they would have used it
in a different way.
Not necessarily sure how they should have done it or how I would have liked to see it
happen, but I don't know.
There's just some things here and there that I'm like, eh, probably could have used it
a little bit later.
Nah, I getcha.
Or a sample.
Yeah, but other than that, the Proton packs getting turned on was freaking awesome.
All of that stuff was great.
Like I said, the only thing that killed it for me was the rest of the soundtrack.
No, that's fair.
Sorry Sam, I get it.
And then anything else on music that you wanted to talk about?
No, not really.
Yeah, it's kind of hard to discuss audio when it's just like, oh it was good, but just like,
eh.
Moving on over to costumes, I feel like you're going to kick my ass over this one.
We're at a nine.
You know what?
No, I can't really kick your ass because I get it.
It's the same thing with music.
I'm not going to kick your ass.
Yeah.
Like, the costumes were killer.
It was a little bit weird that Egon had four other suits.
I think what it was, I gotta watch the original again because I forget how many that they
actually have hanging up in their certain, because each of them has their own section.
Oh, like the lockers?
Yes.
And I forget how many jumpsuits are hanging in each one of theirs.
Well then that makes a little bit more sense.
A little bit easier to forgive.
Doesn't make sense why some of them wouldn't have Spangler written on them though.
Y'all had Spangler written on them.
Not podcasts.
Well, no, he ripped his, he took, you can actually tell that he took the Spangler one
off because you can see little bits of the, oh my god.
What is it?
The patch, still there.
And yeah, he just tore that off and wrote podcast on it.
Oh.
Like, I knew he did that.
I didn't see the rest of the, like the patch leftover stuff.
Yeah, you can definitely tell that there was a patch there before.
But even Luckies said Spangler?
I did not notice that worth a shit.
Alright.
I mean, that tracks.
It'd be kind of weird if he had ones that didn't say Spangler.
Be kind of weird to have a no name.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking because I noticed Phoebe said Spangler.
I noticed podcasts said podcast.
I didn't notice the ripped up patch spot or anything.
I didn't, I wasn't, Lucky and Trevor were just so, like such background characters,
I didn't even bother trying to look at, see what they said.
I found it funny that they're the only two characters that actually put on the elbow
pads and knee pads.
Phoebe and podcasts were just like, F that shit.
But I mean, I guess like considering how much they had to like, kind of like roll up the
sleeves and like the pant legs on the jumpsuits, there wasn't really room to put the elbow
pads on.
Yeah.
Gosh, it, I'll be real, it was really hard for me to not give the costumes a 10.
Yeah.
But I think what brought it down was like everyone else's costumes.
The biggest one for me was actually their mom's costume.
Not her like day to day wear, but when she became one of the dogs and like was in that
dress.
You didn't like that?
It was a very unflattering dress.
It's kind of the point because that's a nod.
It's basically almost the exact same dress that Dana Barrett wears in the original.
Yes.
But I also remember that dress working really well for her.
Okay.
All right.
I guess I can give you that.
Yeah.
I think someone has the hots for Sigourney Weaver on this episode.
I'm actually not even the biggest Sigourney Weaver fan.
It just, I thought it looked really good on her.
And then for some reason it was, it just felt really unflattering.
And like, this isn't like any comment on the actress at all.
I think it was just the dress was just, I think, okay, you know what I think it is?
I think Sigourney Weaver was just like really tall.
And that's okay.
And I forget.
And this actress was just on the shorter side.
And so that dress, it just felt like small and compressed.
And so I think if they would have gotten something that maybe accentuated her height a little
bit better.
I'm actually interested.
So okay.
Yeah.
So Carrie Coon in this one, she's 5'5".
And then let's see how tall Sigourney Weaver is.
Okay.
Yeah.
So Sigourney Weaver is 5'11".
Okay.
Yeah.
So I think, I'm trying to like think of what, like I'm such not like a dress person.
Like not obviously, but like I don't know how to explain what the deal was with the
dress.
But if they would have just done something to make it frame her to be, to seem like she
was a little bit taller than she was, I think it would have made it work a bit more because
for whatever reason that dress made her seem very like short and stocky.
Okay.
That's fair.
Okay.
I can get where you're coming from.
I'm trying to think.
Oh, you know what it could have been?
It could have been the fricking arm thing.
The part of the dress that like was attached to her arm.
Okay.
I think the way that she was like holding it out and being like very majestic with that
made it feel like the dress was like a lot boxier than it actually was.
Okay.
Yeah.
I can get that.
I can understand that.
Yeah.
So I would have gotten rid of that.
Once Paul Rudd became the key master, that felt really weird.
Yeah.
Like the way that he was all like, his clothes were all like ripped apart.
Is it just me or like honestly, I can't wait to be able to watch this movie with subtitles
because I couldn't understand a damn thing that they were saying to each other when they
first met.
Yeah.
I understood what Paul Rudd's character was saying.
Had no idea what Callie was saying.
And I think that that was the point.
No.
Well, whoever does subtitles for that movie, I really hope that they understood it.
Yeah.
So like we said, costumes sitting at a nine.
Unless you got any other comments.
Nah, I got nothing.
All right.
Next up, we got our own personal grade.
You want me to go first or?
I can go first.
You want me to?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
So overall, I freaking loved this Ghostbusters film.
This is the true Ghostbusters 3.
Even though I feel Ghostbusters as a video game is kind of the same thing.
Let's just call them both Ghostbusters 3.
Yeah, let's do that.
But yeah, great.
I really enjoyed the new characters.
Loved seeing the original three back together again.
And the way that they were able to incorporate Harold Ramis' ghost was amazing.
They did an incredible job.
Yeah, I have very few problems with this one.
It's definitely more grounded than the other two, considering that you don't really get
a lot of ghostbusting until the end.
But nothing wrong with that.
I think Jason Reitman did a great job bringing the Ghostbusters franchise back to life.
And I'm really hoping that this movie does well enough that we can continue to see more
Ghostbusters stuff.
So I'm going to actually go a 95.
Damn.
All right.
Well, I am a little bit lower.
Like I said, I really enjoyed this movie.
I had a lot more fun with it than I thought I was going to.
Because I'm not even the biggest Ghostbusters nerd.
Not nearly as much as Rose is.
That's not an insult at roasting you or anything.
No.
Which is not my thing.
I have no idea why.
I think it's just like with no I think what I think what the my issue might be is that
it's ghosts and there's like a part of me that's expecting to be scared.
And so it maybe turns me off to the series as a whole, even though I know it's not scary.
Yeah, no, but no, that's understandable.
I get it.
Yeah, it's just because I'm like a major bitch when it comes to being scared.
He is folks.
He really is.
So I think that was like my my big issue with getting into Ghostbusters.
But I had an absolute blast when Egon was on screen and like everything that they did
to include him.
Like it.
Like I was filled with some like genuine emotion, like very strong emotion.
Like I was on the verge of tears with with some of the stuff that they pulled off.
So like that's that's a big deal for me, especially with with a franchise that I'm not too familiar
with.
But yeah, like I said, too, this could have easily been what The Force Awakened was meant
to be.
Or that came out wrong.
This is what Force Awakens should have been.
Yes, absolutely.
Not ignoring the fact that they're copying the same story from the original.
But acknowledging it and accepting that and just running with it.
And then just.
Hell, I mean, I think we got all of the the frickin fan service that we could get out
of this movie.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Like, I don't think there's one thing that they did in this movie that they.
Like didn't address or.
Basically there's not like a single thing.
That wasn't like fan serviced.
Or ignored other than I would say Slimer.
Yeah.
But like Rose said, we kind of got our fill with that with Muncher.
So I mean, overall, like you cannot complain about this movie.
At least in regards to to that.
Like if you wanted to say, oh, it's just fan service, like, yeah, no shit.
But at its finest.
Yeah.
So I think this pulled off what Force Awakens just could not.
Absolutely.
But yeah, I'm a little bit lower.
I'm going to give it an 88.
OK, I like it.
So averaging that out, that brings us to a 91.5, which also concludes this breakdown.
So the final all bros letter grade for Ghostbusters Afterlife has come to a B plus.
Yeah, very strong B plus to hell.
Yeah.
Let me.
Figure out where it's sitting.
So out of let's see.
Out of thirty seven B plus movies.
Ghostbusters Afterlife is sitting at number seven.
Sweet.
Yeah.
So like I said, it's sitting at an eighty nine point seven five.
Not bad at all.
Yeah, so that puts it above Better Watch Out, which was at eighty nine point seven two.
Puts it above Black Widow, which was at an eighty nine point six two.
Puts it above Ready or Not, which is at eighty nine point four zero.
Puts it above our original Spider-Man Far From Home score, which is at an eighty nine
point three five.
And then finally puts it above Black Panther, which is at an eighty nine point three four.
All right.
Yeah.
And then that puts it below DeFive Bloods, which is at an eighty nine point eight.
Puts it below Marriage Story, which is at an eighty nine point eight one.
Puts it below Elf, which is at an eighty nine point eight five.
Puts it below Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, which is at an eighty nine point eight seven.
And then puts it below The Avengers, which is at an eighty nine point eight eight.
Yeah, I can definitely understand that one.
Yeah, the margins on this one are like ridiculously tight.
Damn.
Like we have to get, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six.
Yeah, it's like ten movies before we even get a full percentage away.
Wow.
Like the margins in our B plus grades are really freaking tight.
I love it.
But yeah, I think B plus super good score for this.
No, no, I absolutely agree.
And definitely being on the stronger side.
Like no joke.
So our number, our top B plus movie is Rocketman, which is at an eighty nine point nine.
Oh, OK.
The Ghost. So Ghostbusters Afterlife is point two percent away from that.
Wow.
Damn.
Yeah.
So like I said, the margins are ridiculously tight.
All right.
Yeah.
Well, unless you have anything else to say about the movie.
No.
OK.
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matrix franchise.
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Um, so yeah, I want to say this was actually the one I watched the most as a kid.
I think so.
This was the second one I watched the most as a kid.
So hopefully the second one maybe holds up better for me than the first one.
We'll see.
Hope we're hoping it, it triggers your nostalgia.
Just a little bit more.
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Um, what are your, have you seen the matrix?
Uh, uh, what is it?
Um, resurrections.
Have you seen the trailer for it?
Uh, yes.
What are your thoughts so far?
What do you think?
I think it looks pretty good.
Like I think there's definitely some things that they're going to have to explain.
Like what the hell happened to Morpheus, but from what I've heard is, um, like, uh, this
supposed to just be like a Morpheus from like a different, uh, not timeline, but God, I
don't know.
I know.
Like I've heard like they actually are explaining it very well why it's not Lawrence Fishburn's
Morpheus.
That's good.
I just hope that we, that this doesn't feel like a cash grab.
Yeah, I hope so.
I said the right actor, right?
It is Lawrence Fishburn.
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
I just want to make sure.
Um, no, yeah, I absolutely agree.
Um, I do want to point out something really quickly.
Um, okay, so in, in the, the first three matrix films, Keanu Reeves does not have a beard,
but in this one, well, and not long hair, but in this one, you know, like he has this
classic long hair that he has now and a beard.
Um, if, if they can give, let him keep the beard for the matrix, why couldn't they have
done that for Bill and Ted face the music?
Yeah, right.
I'm sorry.
Just Keanu Reeves just looks way too weird without a beard.
Now it, I think it would, it still would have worked just fine with his character if he
had a beard and Bill and Ted three, but I digress.
That's my only complaint.
Um, but anyway, yeah.
Uh, so that's the next week's episode.
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