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What is up bros welcome to the all bros podcast I'm Caleb and unfortunately

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Rose got caught up at work so I did have to enlist the help of my unofficial

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third host yes I am here yes it is I it is I it is I crash from crash and taz's

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movie seller and the rest of you you've been chosen by a higher power so welcome

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it is so good to be on here and man this is probably the biggest reveal since

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Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield on no way home which we had that's not been

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confirmed yet but this has ladies and gentlemen that is a made his crash DJ

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how's it going my friend we got him oh we got him I've been waiting for weeks

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dude that was amazing I quit I am no longer the official third host and mic

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drop there it is by the way I thought that was a first a second I thought that

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was like recorded audio I was like oh they did a fun little thing no dude he's

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been on mute since you've joined the video chat by the way now it makes so

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much sense why we had all the mic problems during this yeah by the way I

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during your whole little thing I was telling Kayla I sent Caleb a little

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message facepalm guy I was like you see this is why I'm unofficial number three

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problems persisted and I said and he's number five so Beth welcome you are the

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next unofficial number four all sis all bro I don't know

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chicken established the sister I mean listen that is a much better choice so

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you know I can I can go and get her and she could probably wing it better than I

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could do with my handful of notes

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oh yeah oh gosh what's up man what is you know we have been planning this for

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weeks now and this one specifically or was it just for one in general it was

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for well I heard that you were gonna be on there so I think I I don't know if I

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missed the first one or if I just forgot that that week was gonna be the matrix

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but then I hit up Caleb and I was like I gotta get on there like whether he

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knows it or not I gotta get on there and then Caleb came up actually I think it

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was you Caleb yeah you came up with the whole idea like dude we could just like

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surprise him I was like yes introduce your next co-host and I'll be like what

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is up the door down what's up brothers oh yeah this isn't awesome wait so you

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please by the way how funny would it be if you didn't did you watch the movie too

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I did I did god I am so excited right now to know what to babies think of this

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baby let me just throw that out of all three of us well of the three of us I'm

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the youngest okay oh my goodness all right well my stupid plan I'm putting

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that away the top 10 streaming streamers that streamed so easily one of the best

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things that I've done with this show and ever I'd say this goes as like this was

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tied for number one the crossover episode was pretty good

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and coincidentally we both happen to be on both of those so I mean is it the

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coincidence I don't know it's a glitch in the matrix topical yeah well with this

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week unfortunately since Rose isn't here to do his 4k spotlight job we do not

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have anything to really talk about with through the wall the only thing that I

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kind of had was that spider-man or not spider-man Spotify did their wrapped

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thing and kind of hurt my feelings but what do you mean um have you seen like

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the the Spotify wrapped so you you showed me the thing I looked how do you

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even get to that because I'm like looking through my Spotify app and I

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can't find how to find that they have like just some thing that you can click

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on I don't know what it's on the app yeah it's on the app yeah oh all the

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song no thanks okay sorry I should probably stop looking at my phone yeah

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I'm interested to know because it's the we're talking about is like it tells you

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like what your top all your top listen to stuff is including podcast right yeah

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yeah like throughout the year and stuff yeah I'm interested to know because I've

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gone completely to Spotify like I was I was hardcore like Google podcast guy

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forever and as soon as Joe Rogan went over there I was like meh I'll just

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switch everything there yeah so I have our podcast connected to my personal

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account so I got the the wrapped for our podcast and then like my own personal

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one like my own personal one was fun because it's just like oh like that's

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the music I listen to but the one for the podcast like really sucked ass like

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what your top ones were because I need to know now because was it like no so

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like the Coco Melon theme song for your kid or something no like his is gonna

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show him more of like what was listening to him like by no yeah that's right

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right yeah so like my personal one tells me like what music I've listened to and

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like the podcast I've listened to which I think some of those are bullshit

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because I just started listening to some of those like this year and just like

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was binging but I think it also goes on like episode length so unfortunately

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crash you guys did not make the top five because your episodes are short

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bitch they are shorter I know yeah so yeah I like I got those but then I also

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get like a separate one for for the all bros like and that instead of it's

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saying like oh who's your favorite this that they like give me the stats of the

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show and really yeah so it that one's like not super fun yeah but there's

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nothing more fun for an independent podcaster dear listener than looking at

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the numbers sometimes and you're like I am for sure doing this for the love of

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the game which by the way that but by the way I will just say it makes the

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people that like reach out to you and you know that even if they're just just

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throw a like on a post or something like it means so much more because we're like

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oh so you're one of the ten neat yeah you know before our month hiatus I think

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I think I mentioned like the numbers specific like our numbers specifically

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from our show just cuz Taz doesn't see any of those things I'm you know he does

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he comes in and records and I take care of the rest so I shared some of those

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and I mean it's yeah it's it's sometimes disappointing but like like you said

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you're doing it for the love of the game the other thing too the I try and keep

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in mind is like because we've been doing earliest in my opinion I've been doing

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it for so long you're like well clearly the numbers would go up but the fact

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that there are numbers at all like you know what I mean because they could be

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zero but they're not that's definitely the mentality I kept that's the one we

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got to it's just like hey we haven't had nobody listen to our show and like seven

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days I mean listen I'm not doing anyone any favors on the all bros podcast feed

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by making a 17 and a half hour podcast with you guys like I'm sure people see

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that and they're like really my whole week is what you want from me so they

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had like like they started off really nice they're like okay six people

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listen to your show more than any other show that they listen to and I'm like

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oh that's nice and they're like yeah yeah right I'm like okay I know at least

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two of them and then they're like six people listen to you on a weekly basis

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and I'm like nice I like and I feel like I know those same two people and and

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then the last one was like the app like your your average listening time is 23

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seconds and I'm like oh that feels great they listen to the intro and they're

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like cool intro next I appreciate it bye bye three percent retention rate just

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shorten the intro and then you know maybe the no I worked hard on that intro

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PS you just told me that I'm not looking at those numbers later when they show

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up but it's good because by the way who in a million years like think of like

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when you first started this podcast like how in the world would you ever imagine

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that us three would be here doing this on all sides of the country no so it's

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worth it to me for that so I'll take it yeah thanks to everybody that listens

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to every to any podcaster that it's it's such a nice gratifying feeling like it

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really is someone that's not family that has to listen to me wants to listen to

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me this is great so yeah lucky some of us don't even get family listening to

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our show listen some of us get family they wish wouldn't listen to their show

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hey wait a minute I resent that thank you very much okay well you okay you get

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there's like one like everyone else my family does not listen to it because

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they think it's stupid imagine having a normal job and being like your hobby is

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stupid you know what I do for my hobby I go home and I put my pills into a into

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little separate vessels that say MTWTF but your hobbies dumb I take all my a

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vitamins today I don't know let me check the pill vessel sorry for making fun of

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your family listen don't make fun of people

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oh shit yeah so other than other than that that little humbler from Spotify we

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don't have anything else to really talk about what do you mean you're the number

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one Monster House podcast on the internet I heard

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it's not even that one it's it's we sell like a shirt and they're not even like

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adult shirts their kid shirts like kid-sized shirts or just yeah are

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that's but by the way well but you might have just you might have just figured it

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out like there that's maybe what your market should be is like get all the

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like Pixar and whatever like just make that only in kid sizes because of course

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kids are gonna want to buy that and you know what kids do they grow they're

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gonna need a new size in like six months so that's that that is the racket we all

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need to quit our podcast and make a kid clothing line and that could be the

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thing that we only have six subscribers to like no joke if you go on T public

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like right now and just Google or just search Monster House ours is the first

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one that pops up so I actually want to see that

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speaking of thank you to whoever bought the Monster House pillow this week

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somebody's getting somebody's getting spoiled with their favorite podcast

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merchandise this Christmas you we need Monster House updates every week like no

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joke though we've sold at least eight items in the past month all Monster

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House that's that's not bad though man that's really good I know that's like

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16 bucks in our pocket so considering most people just spend money to buy

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stickers and buttons to then send them out for free and by that I mean buy

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stamps and envelopes I think you're coming up good yeah it's not too bad oh

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well yeah so I have usually when we jump into the new segment we I'll just do the

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thing hello my name is Brecker nurse and I want to tell you about my phone or

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movie podcast called autopsy for horror movie on my show I like to have fun

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dissecting out what makes a horror movie scary what worked for it what didn't

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what types of fears us a playoff of is in an allegory for any sort of message I

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don't know but let's find out also I like to watch slashers I'm a big slasher

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guy so I'll watch a slasher and do a kill grade for it I will cover the kills

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and I will tell you how I would grade it based on shock methods style points in a

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fourth category that is a reflection of the movie besides those I'll have fun

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with special topic episodes commentary tracks interviews with guests including

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some shutter directors so I just like to have a fun time over here if any of this

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sounds interesting to you or you want to come check me out please head over to

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Spotify Apple podcast or anywhere they listen to podcast and search for

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autopsy before a movie also be sure to find me on Instagram at Brucker horror

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where you get fun updates and some cool little posts that I do thanks for

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listening and I hope that you get to enjoy the show and I'll see you on

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Instagram bye now Brucker is the one with the terrible Scott Pilgrim Jesus

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Christ you're in my brain right now I was about to say is that the guy

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actually I'm gonna go in unfiltered I was about to say that the bastard that

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shit all over Scott Pilgrim get out of my head right now DJ you might ruin your

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way back up to number four sorry Beth it's gonna be a long episode so I'm gonna

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make my way down to number six by the end of this yes that is the Brucker that

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has the not super great opinion on Scott Pilgrim versus the listen no one should

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hold that against him he's a great guy I hear but he's just got a few bad

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opinions it's fine like we all have our faults it just happens to be glaring and

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wrong dude you have with that episode when we sent out that list for everyone

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to be like hey give us like a quick little score of whatever movies you want

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to do and when he like sent like cuz I had just listened to his episode about

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Scott Pilgrim and I knew that he didn't like it so I just assumed that he wasn't

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going to do Scott Pilgrim so when he sent us like the the failing scores for

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for Scott Pilgrim I'm like are you shitting me like damn it this guy I

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gotta I gotta go and listen to his what his because honestly he needs to come on

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here I feel like and he really is to like go point for point and be like

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listen this is where this is terrible this is what I'm willing to be convinced

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you can convince me something that I think is good as terrible but I mean that

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is a that is a long road sir I'll I'll make a note and send you the the link to

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his Scott Pilgrim episode because it's not like his new show is the autopsy of

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a horror movie but he did film on the rocks before that and so yeah I'll send

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you the link to that after I mean at least the podcast was named correctly

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film on the rocks that's a great podcast to have a bad opinion about a movie on

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dude that show was super cool so they would like discuss the movie like just

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discuss everything they like disliked about it and then at the the end they

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would come up with drinking rules for the movie but I hope you're paying

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Caleb for all this because this is like way above and beyond whatever you're

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paying him for your your ad spot you need to double it

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hashtag not sponsored everyone go tag Brooker and be like why aren't you

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paying Caleb for all those all those ads he's giving you for clearly he's doing

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it under duress even though you have a good show I think that you know what I

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like about this podcast is I don't know why it brings the I want to make enemies

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out of me like I'm not normally like that but I'm just I just come at

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everybody for no good reason like if that guy hated me I would completely

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understand and apologize

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did nothing's better than a good podcast rivalry that's the sad part about Vic

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and I becoming friends is you know we like it's almost gone you know I had I

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had like such like good burns planned and now they're just just gone I guess

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use them on Brooker now seems wrong though does he listen to this show on a

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regular basis I want to know if he's gonna really truly hear me like Brooker

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I mean I mean if he's got his if he's got his his what's it called on here he

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should be listening to this thing at least I'll be 100% real I do not know if

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he listens to this at all I just went hunting down like I went through all the

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people that I like and was just like hey send me a promo and then just kind of

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got whatever I got which I only have like four per was dude okay everyone's

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job this week is to hit that dude up and be like hey did you hear what the

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Albrows were saying about you this week it is so awesome you're gonna love it

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if you don't normally listen to the show you're gonna want to hit this episode

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see you see that's where that's where we just like comment so when when Caleb

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puts like an Instagram post or something everybody comment they tag their tag

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them on everything just be like dude look what he said about boom and then

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they're like getting all these notifications from different social

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medias like what the hell got set on this episode and and then he and then

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that's already more than 23 seconds you're already up for next year so yeah

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we're 20 seconds dorks you freaking you're missing this gold right now just

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wait wait till I sit wait till what I say about broker at the end of this

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episode oh my god you won't believe it he told us what he's gonna say before we

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started recording that is gonna be unbelievable you will never we freaking

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love you broker we just don't appreciate your opinion on Scott Pilgrim versus the

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world some people would call it an opinion I would call it a fallacy so

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anything nerdy related you guys want to talk about or you guys want to get

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straight into the breakdown can I just give you guys I saw this article from

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Esquire today that said the 10 best TV shows of 2021 and I only recognize I've

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only seen one of them and I only recognize two and can you tell me how

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far out of the loop I am here let's see number 10 was a show called

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made on Netflix MAI heard of made heard of it I watched it okay what we do in

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the shadows of course everyone has heard of that show right I've heard of it I

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haven't seen it yeah didn't watch it Ted lasso did that one soccer I think that

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one's about soccer right not a clue high on the hog another Netflix joint don't

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know that no doopity-doo the chair also on Netflix no the white lotus on HBO

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heard of it we're here uncle I rose secret organization special Mahjong chip

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which Jonathan when you're listening to this you should know by now you

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frickin this frickin gay a show called we're here on HBO

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heard of it I haven't heard and here's where we get into it number three is

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squid game have you ever heard of that one haven't seen it yet yeah I am

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planning on watching it when I have time to actually sit down and like read

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number two yeah number two is mayor or Mar Mare of Easttown no and number one

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is Wanda vision

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by the way can I just tell you Wanda vision the only one I feel like that

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does not belong on that list at all that was just such I read that list and was

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like this is such am I this far out or like are these just nothing shows and

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I'm glad to know that it's either I heard of it or what is this nonsense

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from you guys I know I know a lot of people that have watched squid games and

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they really like it that's why I said I haven't watched it yet

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sorry good no I don't know about it being unpopular but I know for me I it's

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hard for me to watch new shows and series and stuff like that so I will say

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this about squid game I heard a Korean lady talking about this she was like

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because the people are been like oh you got to watch it the subtitles because

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that's the way it's meant to be blah blah the subtitles I have heard are

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wrong like they they're not not like not like so wrong that you're not getting

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the correct message but wrong enough that like a couple words are changed in

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ways that which might have been fixed by now but initially when it came out this

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lady's like yeah it changes just enough that like it's not necessarily what what

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they were intending to say so suck it people that say listening to dubbed is

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no good you suck stop reading and listen to shows don't read them like learning

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Braille when you can already see like what are you doing I feel like DJ has a

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very strong opinion towards people that like sub over dub well it's the people

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that are like we'll get up in your biz about it they're like dude you don't

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watch it in the original duh or a sub like no I didn't come here I came here

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for entertainment not a half school assignment see I got lucky I have

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friends that they watch anime and stuff and I've started getting into anime more

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and more and before with the exception of Dragon Ball like you know I've always

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preferred the dub but then my friends I know they prefer sub but they were never

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like in my face about it but they they do I know they do prefer it and I've

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actually switched over to that now but it's uh I mean it's not terrible listen I

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don't have a problem with anyone's personal preference it's once people get

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into the wars of like dude you're not listening to it in its original way it

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was intended where it sounds like everyone is doing a racist depiction of

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just their normal language yeah was it you DJ or was it the angry dad that sent

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the the the best slash worst sub versus dubbed anime thing it was probably been

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the angry dad because he is he is deep in the anime game so I would imagine

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because anime rarely anything anime related rarely comes through my timeline

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on tick-tock okay there's this hilarious tick-tock that he sent me of the subbed

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version versus the dubbed version and this subbed version there was this dude

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running running laps and like his I think it was his brother was trying to

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cheer him on and he's or like just get him to run a little bit faster and he's

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just like run run like so that's why what the subtitles say are telling him

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we're like run run run like your life depends on it and then his brother like

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freaks out and like and then like just goes and he's just like oh it's like

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0.5 seconds faster and he's just like okay well alright and so and then they

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jumped to the dubbed and there was the same thing is just like run run and then

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he then it goes run like there's a big black man chasing you and then he like

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freaked out that was me that was me you said and you know what Caleb said that

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to me and I was dying when I saw that like why would they how did they get so

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far off the point that's amazing also I wonder I always wonder and stuff like

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that if the voice actors are like for real I gotta say this like I don't speak

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the language so I can't double-check you but you're sure okay Chinese people are

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racist I don't I don't watch anime too often so listen the last anime that I

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watched was attack on Titan and I think I got through most of season one and

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like an episode or two of season two and I was like yeah I get it they're giant

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and they eat people I'm done they live in a they live in a fish bowl got it one

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of them sort of turns into a Titan kind of and one of them can talk later cool

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yeah I've watched the one punch man dubbed and that was super weird and then

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I've watched some of attack on Titan one punch man interests me like every time

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I'm like oh one punch man to me is like the Witcher 3 like I almost am on the

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cusp of buying that game when it goes on sale and then I look at a review of it

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and I'm like I wouldn't enjoy this at all

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one punch man it's kind of the same way I'm like I think I would like the show

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and then they're like yeah it's just a guy that he's bored because he can kill

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everyone with one punch I'm like yeah I've seen all the Matrix movies I get it

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he's having an existential crisis the show's like super weird because they

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have like all these side characters that will do like the crazy like spectacle

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fighting and then he comes in and then just one hit yeah one punches them and

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it's like super lame and everyone it's so weird because it's like they there's

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like a superhero hierarchy so you're you're graded on what kind of superhero

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you are like on whatever the European rating system is like the s is the

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highest rating or whatever and so like there will be some villain that comes in

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like completely destroys everyone and then he'll go and one punch up and then

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suddenly everyone's like oh he must have not been that hard to beat oh wait so

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people are just like not they just don't believe it they're just like oh this guy

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he just shows up after the the bad guys been beaten up enough then he can one

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punch him yeah that's exactly what everyone thinks like he like a bad guy

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comes in frickin like wrecks everyone like all the other superheroes and then

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he comes in one punches and they're like oh well he like he just took credit for

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everyone else is doing look at his bald head they loosen the lid on the pickle

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jar for him exactly yeah exactly that kind of stuff so anyway um anything else

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you guys want to talk about or get right into matrix I had my terrible list I'm

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good I'm good for the matrix all righty let's do it

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all righty like we said this week's breakdown will be or this week's

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headliner will be our breakdown matrix reloaded it's been a headliner for a

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while buddy yeah I know at least I didn't say main event

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why do you have rose like that man he's not even here to defend himself poor guy

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one of these days we're gonna have a throwback episode where everything's

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like what we originally have like original theme song original segments

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like all of that fun shit that'd be cool yeah but if you guys are new to this

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breakdown system we've split movies into eight different categories that we

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individually score to come to a final all bros untrained eye and crash and taz

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movie grade the eight categories that we score our story writing acting

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character development effects music costumes and then we give it our own

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personal grade at the very end then all of that magic gets added up together and

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spits out a like a great house letter grade for us unfortunately I failed to

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post a question of the week again because other than the red pill blue

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pill I did not know what to post about well crash what was what would you have

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picked the red or the blue pill because I'm blue pill gang all day I have to

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remember what what they what were your options on those again and blue red

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hill yeah the blue pill was the one that like basically makes you forget

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everything and then the red hill is the one that opens your mind yeah damn that's tough you know what I'd rather just not know so probably blue pill right yeah yeah man

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ignorance is bliss that's a great cipher quote all right well if you guys have

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not seen the matrix reloaded you have had many many many years to watch it so if

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they get spoiled for you it is your own fault past 2003 is a long time ago so

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unfortunately we have a reading with Caleb episode so every time I do only

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unfortunate it's only unfortunate because now everyone's gonna see who's

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worse him or Rose and by the way you got a lot of work to do sir I'm looking at

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it right now this is like you like after you read this I think the show's over

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yeah every time I do one of these I feel really bad for giving Rose such a hard

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time like especially after freaking dune like that one was rough dune was only

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that is not only that he's looking up like a Wikipedia summary right yeah

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pretty much yeah so I mean in his defense who's to say some dumbass put

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like even spelled something right you know what I mean come on listen do nerds

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do not ever okay ever question a dune nerd they will tell you about a worm

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that lives in the sand all day like that's the only thing worse than a Star

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Wars geek is a freaking dune nerd all righty well let's get into it in one

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breath go six months after the events of the Matrix Neo and Trinity are now

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romantically involved Morpheus receives a message from Captain

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Nyobi of the logos calling an emergency meeting of all ships of Zion Zion has

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confirmed the last transmission of the Osiris an army of sentinels is tunneling

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towards Zion and will reach it within 72 hours commander Locke orders all ships

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to return to Zion to prepare for the onslaught but Morpheus asks one ship to

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remain to contact the Oracle as the caduceus receives a message from the

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Oracle one of the caduceus crew Bane encounters Smith who reveals that his

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previous encounter with Neo severed his connection with the Matrix and has made

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him a rogue program Smith then takes over Bane's body and uses the phone line

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to leave the matrix into the real world in Zion Morpheus announces the news of

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the advancing machines to the people the nebuchadnezzar leaves Zion and enters

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the matrix where Neo meets the Oracle's bodyguard Seraph who leads him to her

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after realizing that the Oracle is part of the matrix Neo asks how he can trust

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her she replies that this is his decision the wait yeah the Oracle

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instructs Neo to reach the source of the matrix with the help of the keymaker as

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the Oracle departs Smith appears telling Neo that after being defeated he refused

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to be deleted and is now a rogue program he demonstrates his ability to clone

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himself using other inhabitants of the matrix including other agent agents as

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hosts he then tries to absorb Neo but fails prompting a battle between Smith's

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clones and Neo Neo manages to defend himself but is forced to retreat from

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the increasingly overwhelming numbers Neo Morpheus and Trinity visit the

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here we go Mero Vigion Mero Vingean Mero Vingean

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they literally say it in the movie I mean fair Mero Vingean who is imprisoning

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the keymaker the Mero Vingean a rogue program with his own agenda refuses to

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let him go his wife Persephone seeking revenge on her husband for his

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infidelity leads the trio to the keymaker Morpheus Trinity and the key

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maker flee while Neo holds off the Mero Vingean's henchmen Morpheus and Trinity

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try to escape with the keymaker pursued by several agents and the Mero Vingean's

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chief henchmen the twins after a long chase Trinity escapes Morpheus defeats

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the twins and Neo saves Morpheus and the keymaker from agent Johnson the crews of

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the Nebuchadnezzar vigilante and logos help the keymaker and Neo reach the

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source the logos crew must destroy a power plant and the vigilant crew must

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disable a backup power station to prevent a security system from being

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triggered allowing Neo to open the door to the source haunted by a vision of

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Trinity's death Neo asks her to remain on the Nebuchadnezzar the logo succeeds

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while the vigilant is destroyed by a sentinel with everyone aboard perishing

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Trinity replaces the vigilant crew and completes their mission however agent

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Thompson corners her and they fight as Neo Morpheus and the keymaker try to

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reach the source the Smiths ambush them the keymaker unlocks the door to the

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source but the Smiths shoot him dead as he closes the door Neo meets a program

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called the architect the creator of the matrix who explains that as the one Neo

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is himself an intentional part of the design of the matrix which is now in its

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sixth iteration Neo is meant to stop the matrix's fatal system crash that

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naturally recurs due to the concept of human choice within it as with the five

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previous ones Neo has a choice either return to the source to reboot the

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matrix and pick survivors to repopulate the soon-to-be destroyed Zion and his

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predecessors or as his predecessors all did or refuse causing the matrix to crash

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and killing everyone connected to it which combined with the pending

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destruction of Zion would mean humanity's extinction Neo learns of

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Trinity's situation and chooses to save her instead of returning to the source

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to which the architect responds dismissively Trinity is shot as she and

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agent Thompson fall off a building before she hits the ground Neo flies and

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catches her he then removes the bullet from her chest as she starts a flatline

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Neo reaches into her heart and revives her they return to the real world where

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sentinels attack them the nebuchadnezzar is destroyed but the crew escape Neo

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displays a new ability to disable real-world machines with his thoughts but

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falls into a coma from the effort the crew are picked up by another ship the

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hammer its captain Roland reveals what other ships in defense of Zion were

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wiped out by the machines after someone prematurely activated an EMP and that

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only one survivor was found the Smith possessed Bane can I take some umbrage

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with some of that really just one part when it says did you do god dang it did

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I lose it no I didn't Neo is meant to stop the matrix matrix is fatal system

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crash that naturally recurs due to the concept of human choice within it I

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literally just got done watching this movie like an hour and a half or two

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hours ago and that is exactly not it because what he said was is that until

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the Oracle figured out that humans needed choice that when they didn't have

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choice that was when the system crash would happen because there were at

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least two iterations that he talked the architect talks about where he says you

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know the first one he created was perfect the second one he created was

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chaos but what basically what the Oracle figured out was that they needed even if

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it was at a subconscious level the choice to be in the matrix so Wikipedia I

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disagree with that one line wrong I say yeah I think for me like all that shit

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kind of got really confusing I mean listen do we want to go in order or do

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we want to just dig right into the psychology of this weird movie we can

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get into the psychology of this I wanted to experience the like the big screen

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idea of this so I watched this in VR you bastard dude it was dope but seeing all

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the effects on the big screen kind of made them stand out like real bad yeah

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00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:22,440
this is that movie was about 2003 as you get oh yeah have either of you guys seen

424
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:32,040
the dancing Dobby gif no no but it already sounds like no I actually have

425
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:39,200
that pulled up just so I can I don't know try and attempt to let me see if I

426
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,840
can turn here we go I don't know if you guys can see that but that's kind of

427
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:51,440
like what I think of when I think matrix yeah I mean I figured we'll get into that

428
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,320
we'll get we'll yeah we'll get into that I would imagine with effects but god

429
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,200
dang it dude spoiler alert when they used the effects properly in the first

430
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200
one they were like but we have a hundred million dollars now I mean what are we

431
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,840
gonna do with all those hundred million dollars

432
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:17,640
effects are not going to hold up can we sorry I even that just that the only the

433
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:23,240
only reason to talk about effects in this movie got so much to say about it

434
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:30,640
all right well we will get there so let's start with like I said with story

435
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:38,080
so we don't have your score yet I don't know whether I should go first or last

436
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:45,480
because I'm gonna give the story I'm debating between an eight or nine and

437
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:52,920
really the the thing about the story that I was really the disservice I'm

438
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,880
doing to myself with these Matrix movies is I'm having to watch them in chunks and

439
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,040
I'm not watching them just straight through like with the notebook but like

440
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,040
the thing that struck me immediately that I was like we don't need this in

441
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:11,120
the story was the backstory of Morpheus and Captain Locke you know battling over

442
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,640
this lady like that didn't need to be like he could just hate Morpheus because

443
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Morpheus Morpheus is clearly a very charismatic guy I said it in the last

444
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,680
episode about the matrix like he is clearly a cult leader and I think that

445
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,600
we see that come to full fruition in this when he gives the can you dig it

446
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:39,680
speech in Zion but like it Locke the reason I think the story gets I'll give

447
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,680
it a nine because even though I disagree with like the her being the reason why

448
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,560
they hate each other like I really like that lot I really like Locke a lot this

449
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,520
isn't a reason to like the whole story but I like him because he's the only

450
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,440
one that we see that's actually correct like he he is the only sane person

451
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,440
that we see like everything we see we're seeing the from the perspective of the

452
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,880
people that we like but really those are the crazy people because this dude's

453
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,680
like yo the machines are coming like we need to protect ourselves and they're

454
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,760
like no no no no no we got computer Jesus here he's gonna save us all like

455
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:33,960
what drink your punch and have your your close dancing party with your quote

456
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:54,120
unquote clothes yeah I'm gonna give it a nine well okay just to go even further

457
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:59,360
with it I think that a lot of stuff that was kind of like alluded to as far as

458
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,360
the story go well what are your guys the scores just so I can defend myself

459
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:12,280
so I gave it a 72 and 86 and I don't know why I'm going out of 10 I'm gonna

460
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:20,000
go then yeah we're gonna go moron I'm gonna go goes out of 10 but here on the

461
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Albrows I know it's okay at number five it's tough to remember these things but

462
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:32,040
don't worry here you know I'm the last one on the email chain I don't know why

463
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,200
I did that I'm very embarrassed now no but I listen I would I don't think your

464
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,120
guys's scores are bad because like but I do think the reason I would score it so

465
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:47,240
high even compared to the first movie is because it pays off a lot of things that

466
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:51,600
get talked about like you because I honestly I forgot like going back to

467
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,400
watch these movies I forgot they didn't go to Zion in the first matrix I don't

468
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,000
know why I just remembered them going back there but that was clearly I was

469
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,400
remembering them going back in the second movie you get to see you got like

470
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:11,520
a glimpse in that movie of what's-her-face Trinity's the fact that she

471
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,240
has an affinity for motorcycles and we got to we got all the car chases we got

472
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,200
her in a Bugatti doing like cool stuff jumping off buildings doing crazy stuff

473
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,400
to ghosts and whatnot like you got to see like I know this is gonna go more to

474
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,880
character development but like you got to see Morpheus like watching Morpheus go

475
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,280
from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie to me is worth the

476
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:42,880
price of admission because that dude like nobody wants to be Morpheus at the

477
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,800
end of that movie like I don't know I thought it was good I thought it was good

478
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,200
especially compared to the first movie because I agreed with you and Rose

479
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,800
Caleb that like I had a lot of nostalgia for that movie in the sense that like

480
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,360
yeah I'm like yeah it was a great story it explained everything but it really

481
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,800
did it was like real fast like it was you know it made you assume a lot of

482
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,240
things and if you didn't assume it it was really it was hard to make those

483
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,760
logical leaps if you weren't willing to already be there with it but I think

484
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,200
that's where this movie even though it was still snappy enough like I think it

485
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:23,000
took its time a little more to be like not necessarily flesh anything out

486
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:29,640
too much further but I think it just gave a little more time with everybody

487
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:36,080
yeah this one kind of had like a complete like ice for me it had a

488
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:42,200
completely opposite issue where the matrix was taking things very like fast

489
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:48,120
and quick paced I feel like this one took everything like super slow okay

490
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:54,200
listen we all even at the time were like yes we're still dancing for 14 and a

491
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,640
half minutes why are we all still dancing like yeah it wasn't even

492
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,480
necessarily just that part it was also the opening with Trinity and her like

493
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:10,000
the vision of her death it was just like like for one it had like a really weird

494
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,840
cut like I had to rewind because I thought like I dozed off what do you

495
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:23,160
mean like like what part were you like hold on it was when she okay it was like

496
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,440
right when you like get the intro where she's just like I'm in and then suddenly

497
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,080
she's like in the middle of a gunfight I'm like wait what the hell and then she

498
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:36,560
like looks all kind of all beat to hell and I'm like wait what the shit like did

499
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,000
I miss something and so I like rewound it and I was like wait what the hell and

500
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,600
then the way that they were when she jumped out of the building and turned

501
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:52,960
around and started shooting the shooting went on at least ten shots too long I

502
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,320
feel like the that movie still was coming off of like the the hangover of

503
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,000
like older school movies that would start with like the where you would do

504
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,400
the start at the end you know what I mean but they kind of like they kind of

505
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,960
tried to like do it a little differently by saying like no this is Neo kind of

506
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,160
seeing the future not you know even though technically we did that like it's

507
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:22,720
it's more than just you know earlier in the story this happened yeah I mean the

508
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,400
the starting at the end thing didn't bother me at all it was just the fact

509
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,200
that that like for one that weird cutscene where it goes from like her

510
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,240
just entering the matrix to being beat to hell like within a second of each

511
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:44,560
other and then the super long sequence of her falling that seemed to go on for

512
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:53,240
like five minutes like I freaking like no joke I was I was texting Rose while I

513
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:59,340
was watching it and like with it like a VR headset so I like kind of picked it

514
00:53:59,340 --> 00:54:03,200
up was texting Rose and it was like during that scene where she's like

515
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,600
falling and so I'm like I've text Rose put my headset down and then she's still

516
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,180
falling went up finished my message sent it put it down and she's still freaking

517
00:54:14,180 --> 00:54:21,960
falling to me that is all like hours and gold member

518
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:31,480
got time that that was one of the things again this might be an effects thing

519
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,760
but I guess you could kind of call it a story thing is like because I feel like

520
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:41,840
because they had so much more money to do this movie like they used the way

521
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:47,880
they used bullet time in the first movie was like really to show like in my mind

522
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,360
it wasn't that time was actually slowing down it's that like every we were able

523
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,320
to slow down enough to see the crazy craziness that they were doing and it's

524
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:01,080
almost like they forgot that that that's what that was all about and that you

525
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,120
know I get that it was like this crazy gunfight in the air while they're

526
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:10,280
falling but yeah when you hearing you talk about it like that I'm like again

527
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,680
like that's my own nostalgia for it is I'm like yeah I remember seeing that in

528
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,720
the theater it was awesome what are you talking about but yeah they did like

529
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:23,320
they said they said I feel like it got better about it but between that and

530
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,000
that dance scene that happens in Zion you're like is this just gonna be long

531
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,920
scenes of like not really anything happening is this what we're all about I

532
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:38,680
feel like the the matrix the trilogy I haven't seen the third one yet so this

533
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,800
might be like just completely out there but I feel they could have edited this

534
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:52,720
movie down about maybe a good half hour by taking out the super long excessive

535
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:56,880
scenes and just and if they did the same thing with the third one which will

536
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,240
get to in a couple weeks I feel like they probably just could have cut a lot

537
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:08,680
of more shit out of that movie and just made the matrix duo well that's the

538
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
thing too this was another thing of like where they made I'm pretty sure they

539
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,760
made these two movies like back-to-back yeah they both came out 2003 yeah that's

540
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,400
what I was gonna say I knew they came out either year after year real close to

541
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:29,240
each other like that but it's I agree like it's it's I have seen the third

542
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:35,120
movie and I do think that hearing the idea of it being cut into one move those

543
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,520
two being cut into one movie there is a lot I'm by the way I'm changing my

544
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:46,280
answer I'm gonna go back to I think I'm gonna go to an 82 because I know we're

545
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,640
gonna talk further about this but like now that we're really talking about it

546
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:55,240
like I feel like there is a lot of fat that could be cut off of this that again

547
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:59,440
like I am very nostalgic for this movie and this trilogy as a whole like I will

548
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,600
this will always be my favorite group of movies like it's the movies I would

549
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:11,040
watch forever but you're not wrong yeah I think one of the big things that they

550
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:17,200
could have cut out was the the weird not being able to spend time with each other

551
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,640
relationship with Neo and Trinity or flesh it out in a different way like it

552
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:30,360
was very straight it was like I get it but like we didn't there was no point

553
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,320
to the boning down scene like we didn't that wasn't like because I mean if you

554
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:40,400
wanted to say like okay well this was where this was where the actual the

555
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,200
actual one was born like we thought it was the we thought Neo was the one but

556
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:52,040
actually it's this kid but no none of that jeez I feel like that scene was

557
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,600
just like it just in case you guys didn't realize this is supposed to be an

558
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:07,200
orgy hey listen they were all wearing clothes they were just very see-through

559
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,680
and everyone was just mysteriously wet and like doing that thing where they

560
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:21,320
like flick their head back you know in the water just comes out yeah yeah that

561
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:28,200
shit was weird yeah listen this movie gets really with like I the actual weird

562
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,800
stuff about it like getting more towards like the middle in the end like once

563
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,720
they start basically once the weird stuff starts happening like with Bane

564
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,080
and then it's like really at the end of the movie with Neo and kind of what they

565
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,960
start to explain through the architect and through the Oracle and even a little

566
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,200
bit through the key maker like that's why like I don't know even still it's

567
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,120
hard to give bring it down to what I brought it down to like you're I'll keep

568
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:02,280
it where I got it because you're right but I I think that the bad in this was

569
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,240
definitely bad but the good like I would like to see if there is someone that

570
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,640
will is willing to or has made that cut where they have cut the fat out of this

571
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:16,520
movie I would like to see that version I think one of my big issues agreed with

572
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:26,080
this like overall at least once it got to like the meat of the story was it was

573
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:31,000
kind of hard to at least for me to kind of figure out what their ultimate goal

574
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,760
was well he didn't know I mean if you think like when he goes to talk to the

575
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:42,360
Oracle he straight up is like I I'm the one but what do I do now which is kind

576
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:50,000
of you know to me is the idea of like you know you you have this one goal in

577
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,960
mind like in life and then you get there and you know then what you know I mean

578
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,880
like oh I've reached the top of the mountain that I set for myself now what

579
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:04,280
do I do like I'm here I don't know I just go around fight crime or what I

580
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:09,400
could fly now I don't know like yeah I think that's what might have thrown me

581
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:15,920
off like I think no one knowing what they were doing really threw it off I

582
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,080
feel like at least Morpheus should have known and maybe just like withheld that

583
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:26,880
information from Neo and then just like do a little bit of an exposition dump

584
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:33,320
like right before he's going into to meet the architect it was just like I

585
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:38,920
like I had such a hard time finding the motivation behind getting to the the

586
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:45,680
source right I think it's that I think in my mind anyway it came instead of

587
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,640
coming as a dump it came in drips and maybe that's what that was part of like

588
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,560
what made the movie so slow is because it started with the Oracle because he's

589
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,840
at he just comes to her like I don't know what to do what do I do and she

590
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,320
straight-up tells him you know I mean she's like you got you this is where

591
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,920
we're at this is where you need to be you need to go back to the source like

592
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,400
you that that is that is your goal your new goal now is the source and you're

593
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,560
the first step in in bringing yourself to the source is finding the

594
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,880
Merovingian slash the key or finding the key maker and you can only find the

595
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:25,200
key maker through the Merovingian and it kind of keeps going from there because I

596
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,880
mean if you look look at what happens right after that like he basically is

597
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,480
fighting he's fighting his demons he's fighting off his demons because now

598
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,440
he's got this this basically other part of him because they are linked now

599
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,700
because he not only like knows when Smith is around like he knows when agents

600
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:52,020
are around so he's I don't know like it's this I'm so afraid for you to watch

601
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:56,060
the third movie because you're either gonna just love everything or hate

602
01:01:56,060 --> 01:02:03,360
everything because I just it's like such a big concept that they're trying to

603
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:13,240
convey in this weird way that I barely understand and I don't know man like

604
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:25,240
help me someone help me like what did you think about it overall Vic I mean

605
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:32,120
for me this was a movie that I I remember like as a kid changing this one

606
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:44,400
and enjoying it more so than the first but I think I think now yeah just this

607
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,440
feels like the slow one of the slower ones and it's kind of hard for me

608
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,800
understand why I even as a kid like liked it more I don't know I think I

609
01:02:52,800 --> 01:03:01,640
think cuz I don't know it just for me I watching it now it's just yeah it's a I

610
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:06,480
don't know I just couldn't I couldn't I couldn't get into it the way I used to

611
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,440
anymore something about this this movie it's hard it was hard for me to like

612
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,320
pinpoint it but I mean I just I know I like the story you know I like where it

613
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:20,600
leads us to and which is closer to the end I guess not to like make that sound

614
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,640
awful that's not really that's that bad sorry DJ I don't know one of your

615
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,880
favorite movies but no no I feel like the concept of this movie was really

616
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,920
good it was execution that kind of so yeah so I think that's why people hold

617
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:42,240
it in such high esteem well it's a thing too I think of like it's like they had

618
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:47,840
more time they had more money they want it to obviously go more philosophical or

619
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,360
lean more into the philosophical side of what they were trying to do and part of

620
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:57,240
that was like here's the problem I think is because what one thing that I noticed

621
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:03,560
about this movie is that they definitely tried to give you a lot of context

622
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,740
through these conversations that he was having with the Oracle with the

623
01:04:06,740 --> 01:04:11,520
Merovingian with the key master even or the key maker even though the keymaker

624
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:17,600
didn't say much I would argue that what the keymaker had to say to him and he

625
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,720
said to the keymaker were probably some of like how they should have treated

626
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,760
the rest of the conversations that were had because even like with him and the

627
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:31,920
architect like the problem with watching someone try and write deep in-depth

628
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,760
conversations is that Quentin Tarantino exists and I'm not saying he's the best

629
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,680
at writing like conversations but what I am saying is that when you have a

630
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,960
director known for writing amazing conversations that people like still

631
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,520
talk about today vis-a-vis reservoir dogs I think it's very hard to be like all

632
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,720
right now what I'm gonna do is what that guy does amazingly hi we're the

633
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:05,360
Wachowskis and we're on a mission yeah it's so I feel like it's so hard to

634
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:14,360
reach that Tarantino level of dialogue yeah absolutely like I don't know like I

635
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:21,240
wish I knew a little bit more how the like the inner workings of like movie

636
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:29,240
making but when it comes to like like writing I would try and get with

637
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:34,200
whoever like whatever aspects I really like about other directors I would try

638
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:39,920
to like grab some of their pieces so like if I wanted Tarantino level

639
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:45,240
dialogue I'd go to frickin Tarantino or one of the writers that he uses often

640
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:51,840
yeah yeah I like there's no way in hell that I would try doing that by myself

641
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,680
like I feel like that was that's just a super high bar like how do you even get

642
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,400
close to reaching that well that's the thing is like that is what this movie

643
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,320
clearly wanted to rely heavily on was getting points across through

644
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:12,560
conversation and I mean I I feel like they did a good job only because I was

645
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:18,160
like super on board you know I mean like I am like I am like my brain is wide

646
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:24,600
open I'm like yeah give me all the juice tell me about the werewolves let's go

647
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:31,760
and yeah but the reality is is like it doesn't I've said it too much already

648
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:36,520
but like it doesn't hold it's more nostalgic in my brain than it is

649
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:48,320
actually actually held up throughout all these years yeah getting sad guys no but

650
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,920
I'm with I'm with you like I like I said it's on a second on another watch not I

651
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,920
can't not second but you know on another watch at least as an adult versus I had

652
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,880
like versus like my childhood side of my brain like there's definitely that

653
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,600
nostalgia there so going in like oh I'm so ready I you know I'm enjoying this

654
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:16,640
movie like then you kind of go in and you're like oh there's there's problems

655
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:23,080
there's some issues here worse than getting your like your childhood

656
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:31,600
nostalgia just crushed I think that like one of the big things with watching

657
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:37,960
things with nostalgia goggles is like how old were you when you went to see

658
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:45,080
see this movie or when you saw it for like the first time let me see I was 19

659
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:54,960
or 20 all right what about you crash let's see this is 2003 jeez I had to be

660
01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:07,680
about like almost 10 years old so I think with with that because like I I

661
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,240
feel like I've watched this before but I would like again I was like really young

662
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:20,760
I was still in high school like I'd say it was maybe 14 15 when you saw it first

663
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:26,400
time yeah I the only one I'm not a hundred percent sure I've watched is

664
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:36,360
the is revolutions but I pretty sure I've watched watched this one before but

665
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,800
yeah I remember liking it a lot too but I also feel like like trying to think of

666
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,280
what I liked about it I think it was just all the action like all the action

667
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:50,040
I was I was on board for like oh this is super cool like this concept is really

668
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,560
cool I wasn't really digesting all the intricacies of this movie like I am now

669
01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:02,920
as an adult right that's the that's the other part is like watching it that

670
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:07,200
young that's the one thing that's gonna you know grab your attention is all the

671
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:12,520
fight scenes and the action and everything that you know I remember now

672
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:17,360
you know as a kid like watching movies like this and it's like kind of not

673
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,560
really paying attention to what the hell's going on or being said you're

674
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,760
just waiting for the fist to get thrown you know what I mean you want to you

675
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,520
want to see people catching some hands and you know watching it now as an

676
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:33,200
adult like yeah like I said it's just it's different yeah and then go into the

677
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,400
weird dance scene you're just like oh like that catches your attention as a

678
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:44,280
young young adult I think that's sure to see through and your eyeballs pop out

679
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:51,880
your head should I be watching this probably not but I'm going to mmm I

680
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,400
wasn't gonna say well that was the thing too is I'm probably wrong about this but

681
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:04,600
like I I don't know that there were like a plethora of like big action set piece

682
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:11,200
movies like that like for sure no one had ever even conceived of like having a

683
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,600
fight along a highway on top of a semi truck like that was amazing like I

684
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,760
remember like it was stuff like that like this Sarah fight at the very

685
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,060
beginning whenever he was going to meet the Oracle like even though some of the

686
01:10:24,060 --> 01:10:28,320
stuff even with Trinity at the very very beginning like even though like watching

687
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,080
it now you're like Jesus God it takes forever like this they're a fight like

688
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,360
it's not it just looks cool like there's not really much happening if you really

689
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,960
look at it but like there wasn't a lot of stuff like you were I remember when

690
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:46,200
like we I felt lucky when like a new Jackie Chan movie would come out cuz I'm

691
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,960
like finally I'm gonna get to see some like cool like jumping around and kicking

692
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,400
and doing awesome stuff and this movie was in my mind anyway kind of like an

693
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,040
extension of that because you got to see all this really cool stuff that like

694
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:03,760
didn't seem because there were action movies I'm sure but not to that level I

695
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:11,760
don't feel like yeah yeah I could be wrong I'm sure someone is like dude last

696
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:21,320
action hero came out in 2003 you're an idiot yeah I think yeah I think it was

697
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,920
just motivations were were difficult like I understood the motivations beat

698
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:32,520
with the people of Zion and them being like hey we need to face this this

699
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:37,000
machine threat and I was all on board for that I was having such a hard time

700
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:44,280
being on Morpheus's team for like cuz it like I didn't under like I still have a

701
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,760
hard time understanding like is he trying to shut down those machines like

702
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,840
what's the ultimate goal by the way you reminded me one of the other really good

703
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,200
it was short and I think that was one of the things good about it the other good

704
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:03,800
conversation that Neo had was with one that councilman when they ended up going

705
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,960
down and looking at the engineering section and he said probably one of the

706
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,480
most important things in the movie he was like you know he was talking about

707
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:17,960
the difference between them and those machines that kept them alive and you

708
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,600
know we could just do the differences we can we control them we can destroy them

709
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:27,480
and his point was you know can you because if we destroy these then where

710
01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:31,360
is our clean water where is our clean air where is our well they're close to

711
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,560
the center of the earth so their heat is still gonna be there but like there is

712
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:40,960
this weird like symbiotic relationship that by the way it goes all the way

713
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:45,080
through to when he talks to the architect by the way because the even

714
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,880
when he's talking to the architect you know and the architect is giving him

715
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:56,120
that basically the ultimatum of like save save Trinity and doom humanity or

716
01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:03,040
doom Zion and start again so that humanity can live like he Neo mentions

717
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,880
to him he's like oh well you know maybe I will just kill everybody and he's like

718
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:12,160
we have we have measures that we would we would be willing to stoop to like

719
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,960
that people talk about the architect conversation about being like you know

720
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:21,560
one of the high points of the movie I think that point kind of makes it one of

721
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:26,320
the dumber ones only because Neo just kind of brushes that off of like okay

722
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,480
well I guess they would just do what they had to do and not use humans what

723
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:34,080
like we saw one of the things we saw in the first movies was the fields and

724
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,080
fields and field of people that were fueling the machines like the the

725
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,400
architect there in theory should be super worried either that or the

726
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,040
architect should either be worried that he is going to do that and possibly kill

727
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:53,080
those fields and fields of people out there or maybe it's not exactly what it

728
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:59,000
seems like maybe maybe there is gonna be a similar outcome no matter what he does

729
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:04,880
I don't know like I was just thinking about that watching the when I was

730
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:12,160
watching the movie today I was super confused with the screens behind Neo

731
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,960
the ones like showing all like the different reactions of him like some

732
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,520
that were getting angry and like were those the like replaying the different

733
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:29,320
iterations of him or was that just like all of the possible outcomes of like I

734
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:37,560
had like what was what was up with that that's yeah well I don't know I'm sure

735
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,840
there's a piece of trivia out there that tells the real answer because it's not

736
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,880
you can't tell by what the architect is showing on those screens because like

737
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,360
if you look like initially he's showing it looks like basically just like B roll

738
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,520
footage of the first matrix at first when he's like we've been watching you

739
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,840
this whole time because you see him like in the interrogation room with Smith you

740
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,280
see him like on the side of the building like you see all these different these

741
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,680
different things that were happening to him which it seems well I don't know but

742
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:15,080
I feel like if I had to guess I would say it is all the different iterations of

743
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:19,480
him and even though there were only five like I mean could you really

744
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:25,520
differentiate more than like two or three things that were said by the other

745
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:30,760
Neos you know what I mean because like it was it was just a cacophony of all

746
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,480
these people or all these Neo's talking at once and I don't think you could

747
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:37,760
really pick out more than like if you could pick out a handful I'd be

748
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,480
surprised yeah I think it was just with the ones that got like super angry or

749
01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:50,760
were reacting very emotionally and like our Neo was like very cool-headed the

750
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:58,040
entire time so it was it was like that's I think that was like a big thing like

751
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:03,280
it like I said motivations were just confusing like when they went to go to

752
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:08,320
the the Merovingian like I don't understand that like like there was so

753
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,680
much about that interaction I didn't understand like my biggest the biggest

754
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:19,400
thing was like I I feel like I understood why the wife was betraying

755
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,600
him because she was like super pissed off that he's been doing whatever the

756
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:30,840
hell he's he's doing but the fact that she went into this room with the guards

757
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:38,240
killed one of them and then let the other one escape to like with the sole

758
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:45,760
purpose of telling her husband like why would you like why was that a thing like

759
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,680
or was that just because we needed another fight scene I think that and

760
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:56,640
like they all of those like rogue programs seem to be like agents of chaos

761
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:03,000
because if you look like the Oracle like she she's calm but she is an agent of

762
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:08,180
chaos like she literally had a place in the first matrix where people went to

763
01:17:08,180 --> 01:17:11,600
find out if they were the one you know what I mean and like the architect later

764
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,120
calls her the mother of the matrix but she even said she even says she's like

765
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:21,080
my only my like she's not even really interested in Neo or the humans or

766
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,760
whatever she's interested in the future like she says that when she's talking to

767
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:31,160
him and I think that Persephone and the Merovingian like they the Merovingian

768
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,560
says it but you can only imagine Persephone he's been with him just as

769
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:41,040
long as they've seen at least a few of the iterations of the one and survived

770
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,280
through it and I've got to imagine it's like you know you know how you see

771
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:50,400
sometimes like rich people portrayed as like they have so much excess they just

772
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,960
do things just for the sake of doing them not for no other reason than they're

773
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:00,400
just being ridiculous and difficult like they they kind of struck me as that is

774
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,400
like they've done everything they've seen everything and now they're just I

775
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,840
think she said it too they both said it to each other as she was she was leaving

776
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:15,760
the room talking he said to her he's like because she was busting his balls

777
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:20,280
about going with that girl in the bathroom telling her it was just a game

778
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,600
and he's like why would you do this to me and she's like it's just a game

779
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:28,440
darling and just walks out I think that that little exchange tells exactly why

780
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:34,200
that happened like they are just screwing with each other plus we needed

781
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:43,000
bullets to all stop in midair in front you know that's exactly what I thought

782
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:51,520
all right I think we can easily move on over to writing so the final story great

783
01:18:51,520 --> 01:19:01,000
or score it came to an 80 okay okay with that yeah so talking about writing I

784
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,920
actually boosted my I went up from story a little bit just because I did think

785
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:11,360
that there was a lot of really cool dialogue like the the conversation or

786
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:18,680
not the conversation the the big speech that Morpheus Morpheus had was dude was

787
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:24,640
sick yeah and then there was like lots of like really heartfelt or not

788
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:31,880
heartfelt um like weird feel philosophical discussions that were

789
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:40,080
had like between Neo and like the the architect and the what's his name

790
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:49,720
Merovingian and even with like the counselor dude anyway sorry I didn't mean

791
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,080
to cut you off no you're good you're good I like I was just kind of going off

792
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,920
of what you were saying you know just you know the conversations and stuff

793
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:03,120
that he's having I like I mean it's more on his on the acting too I guess but you

794
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:07,760
feel you know where there is urgency you feel it you know the concern

795
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:14,000
everything like I like just how that really it's really transparent and it

796
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:21,360
almost hand well even for the viewer kind of a lot of that I think is more

797
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:29,880
tilted towards maybe the actor I don't know but yeah I know the dialogue I I

798
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:39,160
appreciate a lot more now versus before yeah I definitely agree with you on that

799
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:50,960
I too agree yeah I mean it's like I said it I think we said it would talking

800
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,880
about the story like I don't think it all hit the hit the nail directly on the

801
01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:00,000
head because we have such good like conversational movies that exist

802
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,880
because I will this is what I'll say I love I love all of these like big

803
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,200
conversations that they try and have and I especially do love the one with the

804
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:16,120
architect but god dang it dude that one with the architect it killed me because

805
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,680
that dude I'm like hey man we get it you're real smart like you're in the

806
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,240
room okay like if you say ergo one more time I'm gonna come through this screen

807
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:36,200
and rip your beard off your face you freaking Colonel Sanders looking one

808
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:42,240
person I didn't understand like why they had this character in it all like well

809
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:50,520
what's up with the kid which kid the one that's like obsessed with Neo yeah I

810
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:56,680
mean because to me it's this thing of like the the furthering of this like cult

811
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:02,800
thing of like you know you just have I was thinking that yeah you know you've I

812
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:07,080
was just gonna go ahead no no no you're probably gonna say it better than I can

813
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:12,760
I was gonna say that the or Morpheus has been promising that Jesus was gonna

814
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:19,120
come back forever and then Jesus came back and now you have people I mean he

815
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:24,640
is I think he is supposed to be like the the analog for all the people that are

816
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,160
now willing to basically put their lives on the line for him like and you get to

817
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,440
see that in kind of a broader way whenever they get up to you know to going

818
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:37,840
to their room and then the there's everyone they're waiting to like make

819
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:43,440
their I mean sacrifice is the wrong word but what's the the what's it called why

820
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:48,040
can't I think of the word when you are your their offerings martyrdom

821
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:55,400
and that's that's for later like the Matrix 3 like offerings like a

822
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,680
sacrifice like not that it's it's a more sacrificial what's the if there's a

823
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:07,680
religious word it's right on the tip of my tongue it's a frick I don't know but

824
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,520
offering to me is it's a good enough replacement it's like this is them

825
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:18,080
being like this is all I mean clearly everyone has basically nothing and they

826
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,720
are coming here to be like this is the best of what we have I've kind of like

827
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,800
like what was it called when they would give like when the people would go and

828
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:32,240
they would bring like the the firstborn lamb or like the the best part of the

829
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:38,000
harvest or whatever to make their sacrifice or offering or there's a word

830
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:43,880
I got it I mean it's gonna kill me and I'm sure someone's saying it right now

831
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:48,120
but I mean that was that was what they were doing like they were all there to

832
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:58,040
be like Jesus will you please help me like I have got yeah will you write that

833
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:05,280
letter on my door please Jesus yeah it was a yeah but I think that was it like

834
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:10,080
cuz I think whenever a savior figure comes back like you're gonna have

835
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:15,800
because by the way that kid if you went all through that big thing of Zion that

836
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,720
was there that kid is not the only one that was going crazy for Neo you know I

837
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:26,340
mean like he yeah don't worry though you'll see him again his his arc is

838
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:29,600
gonna pay off big time

839
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,760
yeah I thought like all that was so weird I'm like like this is kind of

840
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:42,440
messed up like Neo's like trying super hard to go get laid but he's like I

841
01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:47,840
have to be the Savior fright for hot minute but really think about that like

842
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,840
think about like cuz you here's what's crazy too that the councilman said to

843
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:58,760
Neo is he's like I spent the first 11 years of my life asleep to me the

844
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,120
implication is that he was 11 when he got pulled out of the matrix that's what

845
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:09,360
I thought too so this has been going on for a hot minute and what would you do if

846
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,640
you had been living in the matrix your entire life you were 20-something

847
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,680
whatever you are now and people had been being like no for real like Jesus

848
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:22,920
computer Jesus is coming and you're like I'm super stoked I'm down I've read all

849
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:28,280
the literature and then he shows up and he like lives like across the street

850
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,880
from you like you're not just gonna be like oh what's up Jesus you're gonna be

851
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:38,240
like yo I know you dude like I know everything about you and he's gonna be

852
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:44,120
like haha yeah anyway if I could just not do this right now they'd be cool man

853
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:49,640
yeah yeah yeah I got the spoon for you though it's like living next door to

854
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:55,480
someone whose podcast you listen to all the time hey remember when you said

855
01:25:55,480 --> 01:26:05,720
this no I don't I never knew you like I just been all 150 episodes of your

856
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:11,400
podcast and gotta say you're now family

857
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:17,320
you're the olive garden this happened to you Kayla recently kidding me with all

858
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:25,720
five people or are you the guy living next door to the podcaster dude I feel

859
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:32,680
like you live next door to Joe Rogan that's amazing I feel like I'm a little

860
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:41,800
bit more invested in some podcasts and they are me as a person like I'll

861
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,880
message them like we're just like super good buddies like hey great episode and

862
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:52,480
they just like thumbs up and I'm like I'm trying to have a deep conversation here

863
01:26:52,480 --> 01:27:01,040
man thanks now click the link to subscribe yeah make sure to check out

864
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:15,080
our patreon yeah I'm that guy the one that just gets a little like feel what

865
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:26,080
it feels like I'm too much of a part of their show oh I said it like when we

866
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,400
were talking about the story but I will say like I guess that was more

867
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,160
appropriate for the writing like I do feel like they paid a lot of stuff off

868
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:40,000
early some things off in this movie and that were from the first movie IE Zion

869
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:45,760
and really really seeing Morpheus go full tilt and see that he's not just some

870
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,920
like lone he's not just some lone guy that like broke off from the the rest of

871
01:27:50,920 --> 01:28:01,880
Zion like people are down to clown with that dude but has Morpheus in the first

872
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:08,120
one has he been to Zion before yeah dude especially if this has only been six

873
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:18,520
months since Neo has come come into the real world dude you don't get a

874
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,440
reception like that you don't get you don't get the council being like hey

875
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:27,960
crazy person why don't we have you calm the people down nope they're like

876
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:32,480
clearly all on board and that's why the way like Locke I feel like does not get

877
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:36,880
enough love like the character of him is great but the guy playing him was

878
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:43,320
perfect because like this dude was clearly like fully sold on like Morpheus

879
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:48,960
is crazy Neo is nobody we're all gonna die because these morons are going to

880
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,640
like try and use the force against machines

881
01:28:53,640 --> 01:29:02,320
dude I loved when his wife volunteered for the Morpheus mission I don't think

882
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,400
that's his wife I think they are just like I don't know because they said

883
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:12,360
the way that they explained it was they said it I can't remember who they think

884
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,760
they said it to Neo of like she used to be with Morpheus and now she's with Locke

885
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:22,880
so I don't listen I could just be going full crazy and be like maybe they just

886
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:29,640
don't have the concept of marriage there but I don't know I don't I think either

887
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,200
way is probably safe to say that was great though he's like what are you

888
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:39,640
doing I'm taking the place of my husband Will Smith who was supposed to be the

889
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:50,560
one yeah I thought that was like super funny like I love how he thought he

890
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:55,560
thinks that everyone's on his side until they prove that he's that they're not

891
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,840
why is everyone stupid but me

892
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:09,440
by the way that is everyone he's just like what the shit I could be ruining my

893
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:12,160
credibility right now but I'm pretty sure that's true though the Will Smith

894
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:18,920
thing like I'm pretty sure he either like turned down or was unable to do the

895
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,960
matrix because I think he was one if he wasn't the one he was one of the first

896
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,920
ones that they were like hey you want to come be part of this here a matrix movie

897
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:32,280
well that's super cool so hilarious that Jada Pinkett got to show up and be like

898
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:45,200
that's alright I got you oh by the way I realized her name is last name is Pinkett

899
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,960
Smith and I just talked about her like her name was Jada Pinkett like that was

900
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:59,040
their first name also Pinkett is a very strange last name just saying do we give

901
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:06,880
our scores for writing we did did I I didn't know what were your guys's again

902
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:14,000
I gave the writing a 78 just like a slight bump just cuz I feel like they're

903
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:25,880
still I still feel like there's a decent amount of issues Vic gave it a 92 yeah I

904
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:33,720
think that yeah this is for the writing yeah yeah trying to look and see that

905
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:47,080
that's right well I have to beat Vic so I'm doing 93 all right next up we got

906
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:55,140
acting so we have I'll just do like the main people we got Keanu Reeves who

907
01:31:55,140 --> 01:31:59,520
played Neo Lawrence Fishburne who played Morpheus

908
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:07,800
Carrie Anne Moss played Trinity Hugo weaving who played Smith Jada Pinkett

909
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:16,960
Smith who played Naomi I mean if you're gonna add Jada Pinkett Smith you might

910
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,720
as well add the dude that played link because I have something to say about

911
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:33,440
him yeah Harold go ahead I looked up his name earlier and was like what how is

912
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:40,280
that a word dude I knew I recognized him from somewhere I just had no idea from

913
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:45,760
where what was it cuz I looked him up to what was it I know there's something

914
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:54,680
that we all know that he was in what was it say it it was it's right dang it

915
01:32:54,680 --> 01:33:00,760
IMDB save me by the way there was some good trivia on IMDB for the matrix

916
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:07,840
reloaded as well link by the way I just tell you on IMDB they did it in like

917
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:12,760
alphabetical order like hey man just put the stars at the top I don't need the

918
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:19,600
guy that played werewolf 2 dude dude dude dude dude dude dude dude you've been in a

919
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,520
lot of TV shows there was something specific though that he was in that I

920
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:29,560
was like oh yeah I know that guy oh Romeo and Juliet he was at Marcuseo and

921
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:36,600
Romeo and Juliet the movie with Leonardo DiCaprio that is why I was like oh as

922
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:42,240
soon as I saw that I recognized him immediately I know I'm talking to the

923
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:50,480
wrong crowd to have seen the Leonardo DiCaprio Romeo and Juliet movie by the

924
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:56,040
way can I just tell you that is one that I would highly suggest I would love to

925
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:01,240
see your guy either of you or both your opinions of that movie because I

926
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:07,680
remember it being really good like better than I imagined it to be geez I

927
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:17,680
mean wait when did that one come out that movie came out in 1996 starring

928
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:22,360
Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes by the way also John Leguizamo was in that

929
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:29,360
movie and John Leguizamo is one of my favorite people on this earth depending

930
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:34,040
when that has mentioned that one yeah depending when that came out I was a

931
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:40,120
few months old I was gonna say a fetus what

932
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,880
by the way while we're waiting for this do you know Sean Connery initially was

933
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:52,320
gonna play the architect but he read he read the script and was like I don't get

934
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:57,920
it and the funny part about that is he mentioned that in an interview while he

935
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:04,200
was being interviewed about the movie the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen I

936
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:14,720
did see that those movies came out really close together I will say I think

937
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:30,240
he made the right call this was a very confusing script yeah yeah anyway who

938
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,040
by the way like let me hold on let me ask you this because this is crazy I

939
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:38,640
can't imagine this even how long do you think it took to film I don't know if

940
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,360
you know how long it takes to film things but how long do you think it took

941
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:49,280
to film just the highway chase probably took a few weeks do you have a guess

942
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:56,560
crash I would I would say I'm kind of in that same boat it took three months to

943
01:35:56,560 --> 01:36:02,240
shoot that holy balls oh longer than many films entire shooting schedule

944
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:08,960
that's what this is that is bananas to me was this like one of the first highway

945
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:19,800
fight scenes I don't know see the at least one of this magnitude for sure I

946
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,960
mean and to me it's that's what's crazy to me I know we're gonna get into that

947
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:28,000
in effects but like that's what's crazy to me about like the care put into that

948
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:36,040
scene or that whole sequence but then you have the the many Smiths coming and

949
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:41,000
there is like just a spoiler for my effects rating like there is there is a

950
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:46,440
clear moment where it goes from like this is really awesome to like oh this

951
01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:56,440
is a cool video game trailer because it is not any of the real people anymore

952
01:36:56,440 --> 01:37:06,720
all right so like we do with most acting casts who is your your top three because

953
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:12,800
mine is very different from the first matrix

954
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:25,400
Vic are you there I'm here I'm here you guys can you hear me yeah we just had a

955
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:33,720
freak out moment it's like Caleb's eyes getting very big that's how I knew there

956
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:45,240
was a problem and DJ kicked me off somehow with no administrator privileges

957
01:37:45,240 --> 01:38:00,840
I was all right yeah top three people that yeah like out of the entire cast

958
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:06,840
I'll start off with mine just to see if you guys are lined up with me at all I

959
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:21,120
doubt it so my I'll go one two three my number one is actually gonna be Trinity

960
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:28,280
played by Carrie Anne Moss I thought she was one of the best parts of this movie

961
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:36,000
like obviously like my my acting score was still like pretty low I'm sitting at

962
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:47,480
a 76 but I think out of everyone I think she did the more believable job yeah

963
01:38:47,480 --> 01:38:53,680
then my number two would actually go to Morpheus played by Laurence Fishburne and

964
01:38:53,680 --> 01:39:01,040
I think his acting just kind of got worse throughout and then my my number

965
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:09,400
three would be Neo is that after sir and it's a kind of by default I mean are we

966
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:16,360
just picking out of those three or can we pick anybody you can pick anyone Vic

967
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:23,320
unless you have something I have some no particular orders well for me I would

968
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:32,480
say I'm with I'm with Caleb on Carrie and moss I don't know I I appreciated her

969
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:40,040
acting a lot more here than you know when you look at the group as a whole

970
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:50,080
number two would go to Hugo weaving I just like his acting that guy and and

971
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,680
you know what I had a I had a math teacher my senior year of high school

972
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:59,920
looks just like the guy so it's just like I don't know I'm like yeah I got to

973
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:03,440
give him I got to give him that just for just cuz that teacher but yeah I'd say

974
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:13,160
Hugo weaving number three I would go to Laurence Fishburne just no man that

975
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:22,160
speech just just got me yeah the speech was amazing I would go it's funny because

976
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:26,000
I don't think I would I think Morpheus would be Laurence Fishburne would be the

977
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:34,160
only main character that I would give it to because my listen my guilty pleasure

978
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:41,520
favorite is the mirror Vigion like I love that guy a because he's I love him

979
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:46,600
because he's such a douche but he really gives like kind of the only laugh in

980
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:52,680
that movie cuz at right after Neo defeats everybody he's just like woman

981
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:58,400
you won't be the death of me it just leaves out of the door and I just I

982
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:04,480
don't know I got a real laugh out of that and I like that a lot and god I

983
01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:08,580
don't want to also pick Hugo weaving just to give it some diversity but Hugo

984
01:41:08,580 --> 01:41:15,080
weaving is a he is an honorable mention because Hugo weaving is amazing like I

985
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:25,680
it's it's a travesty he's not in every movie but I'm trying to think I don't

986
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:29,880
know I honestly I think just because we don't get to see her again probably the

987
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:38,360
Oracle because she played that that role so well like and it was just you know it

988
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,840
was always very like one-off understated I don't know I just like her like she

989
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:47,600
was that if there was any role that was perfectly cast I know people say you

990
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,480
know Keanu Reeves is perfect for the one but I think she if there was a

991
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:57,120
number one perfect cast it was her being the Oracle so I would say that lady

992
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:06,720
whatever her name was old what's-her-name I liked her a lot yeah she did a really

993
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:14,720
good job and I'll be 100% real I completely forgot about Hugo weaving so

994
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:18,520
he's actually gonna take my number two spot

995
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:28,260
by the way she died she got she finished all of her like barely finished all of

996
01:42:28,260 --> 01:42:34,840
her scenes for this movie and died right basically right after and that's why we

997
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:41,520
well spoiler alert for you Caleb but the what's-her-face the Oracle is gonna

998
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:49,840
take on a new form in the next movie that sucks I mean it sucks because it's

999
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:54,000
not like it was something contractual like I heard a rumor that that's why

1000
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,880
tank was not in this movie and then it ended up being link instead because you

1001
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:04,800
know how tank and dozer dozer dies at the end and tank presumably lives like

1002
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:10,320
because he gets back up and he kills cipher but I don't know this for sure I

1003
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,160
just heard this I heard this through the grapevine is that there was there were

1004
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,520
just contract issues and he wasn't gonna get paid what he wanted to and they were

1005
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:23,320
basically like yeah we don't need you we'll get somebody else good for him I

1006
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:30,440
appreciate actors taking a stand like that it sucks because I do too and I

1007
01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:33,240
want people to get paid what they're worth for the thing that they're doing

1008
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:41,840
but like I the guy that did link is fine but I would way much more have had tank

1009
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:47,040
in there than this dude link because by the way speaking of story stuff like that

1010
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:52,080
was a part of the story that like tank would have helped us not need which was

1011
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:56,760
the you know the the couple of moments that Morpheus needlessly had with this

1012
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:02,320
guy to be like hey man you got to trust me dude like I'm in charge here and if

1013
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:07,160
you don't trust me then what do we even have here and then we had the one slight

1014
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,840
callback to it when links like hey I think this is a dangerous mission he's

1015
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:15,320
like what I tell you he's like I trust you fully anyway we're hacking into the

1016
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:24,400
matrix again I don't know man Morpheus already had his acolytes and I think

1017
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:34,960
they should have just paid the man get get tank back yeah um yeah any other

1018
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:42,000
acting notes you guys have other than it's just kind of being like I like

1019
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:46,440
link but he was terrible like he was so I was I could have dealt with no link at

1020
01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:54,320
all I think they tried really hard to make us care about him with his

1021
01:44:54,320 --> 01:45:03,440
his luck charm and his wife yeah I didn't really like how he came in and

1022
01:45:03,440 --> 01:45:09,160
who and he came back home and was entering his living space and then like

1023
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:18,680
froze when he saw kids were in there where's my oh hello everyone I think his

1024
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:23,520
two is just like trying too hard to like get you to like a character that you

1025
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:32,000
know what I mean that's not of the main you know your main cast is just yeah

1026
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:37,800
all right DJ what's your score for for acting oh yeah I definitely did not give

1027
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:47,280
that huh acting who I'm gonna have to give that probably an 80 I think that's

1028
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:53,520
being charitable all right and that brings our acting grade to a seventy seven point

1029
01:45:53,520 --> 01:46:01,680
six can't argue can't argue especially after what we're gonna talk about next

1030
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:10,800
yeah next up we got character development well I'm gonna get by the way I'll just

1031
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,200
start with it and say I'm gonna give this one an 80 but I begrudgingly give

1032
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:20,120
this I this is good this is my charitable this is my charity that I'm

1033
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:26,920
giving to this because I have not seen such a little character development like

1034
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,980
there was there was no character development at all for Neo until

1035
01:46:30,980 --> 01:46:36,680
literally literally the last thing he did he well I said the second to last

1036
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:42,040
thing he did he did his thing I force ghost you and then he passed out and

1037
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:47,440
then that was that was his arc is that he brought the matrix to the real world

1038
01:46:47,440 --> 01:46:53,720
and more feet I actually liked more of his I think I know you said you thought

1039
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:58,040
he got worse his time went on I felt like we got to watch a man slowly

1040
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:05,320
realize everything that he believed in like to the core of his being was not

1041
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:10,400
only wrong but it was a manipulation that he bought into like hook line and

1042
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:15,800
sinker like seeing that last scene when he explained it to Morpheus what was

1043
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:20,320
going on and what he talked about with the architect like my heart broke for

1044
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:24,800
him because you saw him like you you could see in his face like his brain

1045
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:30,120
break like he was just like this can't be like this cannot be and when he's

1046
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,320
like you said it yourself he's like if the prophecy was true like why isn't the

1047
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:38,840
war over right now and like oh my god dude like that killed me and I feel like

1048
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:43,080
everything was slowly leading up to that because he was just you see him in in

1049
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:48,080
Zion he gets the frickin the crowd goes wild for the man he keeps going up and

1050
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:52,480
up he has that he has that moment where they're going to meet the mirror of

1051
01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:56,000
Indian he's as cocky as he ever is because they're like oh what do we do

1052
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,840
wrong and he's like we did everything exactly as it was supposed to be and

1053
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:04,400
then the doors open and Persephone's there like he is like we did it I am

1054
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:11,000
right look at how right I am there was something I wrote down wait this was

1055
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:14,600
good because there was he did the thing you're never supposed to do maybe I

1056
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,400
didn't write it down he did the thing you're never supposed to do which is

1057
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:23,600
like put a timetable on something like all call all bad cult leaders are like

1058
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:29,340
on this date and time this is when the thing is gonna happen and he did that by

1059
01:48:29,340 --> 01:48:35,560
basically saying like once neo does this we we good and then once that didn't I

1060
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:40,000
was like oh no like everyone watching this movie movie for the first time

1061
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:50,560
should know like he is about to like take a hard fall and he did other people

1062
01:48:50,560 --> 01:49:04,800
talk now ending like with Morpheus kind of breaking yeah like yeah breaking I

1063
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:14,800
I feel like I thought Neo was lying like was Neil lying to him well you know

1064
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,040
what I've made the other choice and like the other choice it kind of would have

1065
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:26,160
been what Morpheus wanted to happen right well no what but what Morpheus

1066
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:30,280
wanted to have Morpheus did not know like that's that I that I think was more

1067
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:34,760
his point is that Morpheus didn't really like yes the war would have stopped but

1068
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,000
what Morpheus didn't understand about that is that the war would have stopped

1069
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:45,120
because Zion would have been abolished or whatever just destroyed out of the

1070
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:51,160
middle of the planet and then Neo would get to handpick the next 16 people that

1071
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:57,080
were what was it it was was it 16 women and seven men something like that that

1072
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,840
how whatever the number was like he was gonna get to handpick them and he was

1073
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:06,320
going to be the the one that freed these this this next generation of people that

1074
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,760
were getting freed from the matrix because that's what he says that's what

1075
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,380
the architect says to him he's like there's always that 1% of the

1076
01:50:11,380 --> 01:50:15,640
population that just does not even though they have that subconscious choice they

1077
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:21,040
just do not accept what the matrix is and then he talks about how Neo is the

1078
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:27,520
the remainder of this this problem that has been happening over and over so he

1079
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:34,400
is he's basically sorry your hand guy I looked up and saw your hand and thought

1080
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:48,600
spider for a second and was like what has happened oh my god Neo just took the

1081
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:55,960
children but like that's that is the thing is like and by the way that is

1082
01:50:55,960 --> 01:51:01,840
where like Morpheus buying whole hog into what the Oracle said really came to

1083
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,360
like bite him and like the Oracle never made any promises to him like if he ever

1084
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:10,040
got to speak to the Oracle again was like yo what is going on she would give

1085
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:14,080
him the you know the Oracle jargon that she gives and you know we already kind

1086
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:18,840
of got the answer to any question that Morpheus would have for the Oracle about

1087
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:23,360
hey I didn't know it would be like this she'd be like I'm not interested in you

1088
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,440
living I'm interested in what the future holds and that's all I was ever

1089
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:34,280
interested in so I don't know like it's it's again you have to want to connect

1090
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:44,720
the dots but they are there to connect I think in my opinion I will say in my

1091
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:52,760
humble opinion they are there Caleb what did I give the my score you also gave

1092
01:51:52,760 --> 01:52:03,000
in an 80 okay that's what I thought yeah I went super low with my because I was I

1093
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:10,880
feel like the movie was or the matrix kind of revolves around Neo and so I just

1094
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:17,560
kind of went off of Neo and yeah his his arc really sucked and that's why I feel

1095
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:23,400
like two and three could easily be combined into just one long-ass movie

1096
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:28,040
like you could probably listen combine the two and make like a good three hour

1097
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:32,800
movie I think you can make I think you can make the argument that one and two

1098
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:38,840
could be cut into a movie into one slightly longer movie and you could

1099
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:45,920
really trim some of the fat out of two but I'm now that I know you've never

1100
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:53,440
seen three I am really like I am I've shielded my heart to your response to it

1101
01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:57,560
but I'm really interested into what as to what you think about it in particular

1102
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:02,720
because you you are in a real weird position that you're gonna be able to

1103
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:07,440
watch three and then go directly into four which I don't really know I've done

1104
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:12,720
my best to like stay away from what four is gonna be at all but dude three is

1105
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,840
like if you think they started leaning into the philosophical stuff in this

1106
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:23,480
movie get ready my dude they are like listen if you are wondering what the

1107
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:28,920
thing is we're gonna give you visual representations by the end dude I love

1108
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:34,440
that stuff I freaking love like philosophical stuff and like that's why

1109
01:53:34,440 --> 01:53:41,760
I really do what I'm sorry I was gonna say that's why I really liked the like

1110
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:49,000
some of the conversations that were had like with the the counselor and and the

1111
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,960
architect like I really like those conversations because I feel like

1112
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:59,240
there's just so much that you can take from that and it's just every other like

1113
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:05,920
it was just everything else and and Neo just kind of he felt like he was just

1114
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:11,160
stagnant throughout the entire movie until like the end when he unlocks this

1115
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:16,200
new power within him which is confusing as shit well here's the other thing too

1116
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:20,400
that's kind of weird about Neo it almost kind of makes sense especially since we

1117
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:25,480
were talking about one punch man because he is kind of like at the top tier right

1118
01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:32,960
now like there I mean he's the literal one like that all they kind of painted

1119
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:41,920
themselves to a corner about this maybe with being the one and having like it

1120
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:48,720
follow him more than like trying to get back to the source because I can't well

1121
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:57,600
now I'm gonna spoil three but yeah it's I don't know man like it's it's weird

1122
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,760
I'm really glad that we're doing this cuz like now cuz it's been a while I

1123
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:04,120
realized watching these movies again it's been too long since I've watched

1124
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:08,880
them because I used to watch them like on a very regular basis and it's been

1125
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:15,040
super long and I I really enjoy the idea of these movies being talked about in

1126
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:20,680
this way and the fact that now I'm gonna be searching for different cuts of the

1127
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:26,520
movie because I'm sure there are fan cuts out there somewhere probably I

1128
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:32,600
would put it past anyone I mean there's a super cut of the MCU for heaven's sake

1129
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:41,880
like if there's not a fan cut of the matrix I got be genuinely shocked what

1130
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,960
was I gonna say I don't know I know the matrix has spawned off like a bunch of

1131
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:51,040
cool stuff like I forgot about it until today but like they have the animatrix

1132
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:55,280
which is kind of like Star Wars the Star Wars visions of its day because it was

1133
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,840
just a bunch of like anime shorts I think was like eight or nine of them

1134
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:04,400
that I think they were released like right before or right after this movie

1135
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:12,120
came out which I would be like I barely remember them so I'd be interested to

1136
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:18,560
at least go over those again and what was I gonna say dude did you guys ever

1137
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:26,440
play the enter the matrix video game I didn't that was I know I'm sidebarring

1138
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:31,600
but I will just do it for a moment that was like for a long time there were no

1139
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:36,320
good Star Wars games because they always did like the force power is weird or

1140
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:42,280
lightsabers wrong or whatever it is but this game freaking nailed it 100% I mean

1141
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:45,400
for the time I'm sure if you played it now you'd be like this is trash garbage

1142
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:49,480
but like knowing that nothing like that ever had ever come out before like it

1143
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:55,880
was a it was a great great I love that game sorry since no one's played it I'm

1144
01:56:55,880 --> 01:57:04,640
just talking about nothing anyway dude I feel like there's there's a game

1145
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:10,240
franchise that that's come out that I feel is a complete another knockoff of

1146
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:21,200
the matrix you're talking about Assassin's Creed maybe no not at the

1147
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:30,280
same time what is it Oh Saints Row dude Saints but Saints Row like leans into it

1148
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:35,320
though like they like I think I remember cuz I it's funny cuz they it just went

1149
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,760
on sale on the switch Saints Row 3 did a little while ago and I bought it and it

1150
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:50,920
came with all the DLC and one of the DLC was enter the dominatrix so yeah they

1151
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:59,160
they are this to me it feels like a loving nod more than like a ripoff okay

1152
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:06,640
that's fair I was wondering that from like cuz I'm not the the biggest major

1153
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:13,280
like I really like the matrix but I'm not like a diehard but I've always wanted

1154
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:18,400
to call it all good sorry I've always wondered if like matrix fans hated that

1155
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:23,640
that franchise I think it's weird if there I've never met and I don't even

1156
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,720
know if I would call myself a diehard matrix fan like I don't know if there

1157
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,760
is such a thing just because there isn't like there isn't really a lot

1158
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:34,640
surrounding it you know what I mean like there are the movies there's the

1159
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:38,920
animatrix there's the game if you want to go buy a PlayStation 2 and I'm sure

1160
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:45,000
there's comics but like I mean it's not it's weird because it stayed popular for

1161
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:50,240
so long but like it's clearly not a Star Wars it's not a it's not a you know an

1162
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:55,640
MCU like it's not I don't know maybe that's one of the reasons why I have

1163
01:58:55,640 --> 01:59:00,560
such hard nostalgia for it is because it was like it did the work of like all

1164
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:05,040
those MCU movies in three in the sense that like no it was clearly not as good

1165
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:12,080
as the arc of the MCU but like at the time there weren't they're just if there

1166
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:15,280
were movies that were like that that were that big and that were you know

1167
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:19,560
especially what a trilogy where the last two movies come out in the same year

1168
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:25,080
like it just wasn't that wasn't a thing really so it was just fact that it stood

1169
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:31,480
the test of time even to now is I think says a lot about the that group of movies

1170
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:43,520
yeah all right any since I think we're just all itching to get into it into

1171
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:54,080
effects so character development came to a 75 yeah that's that feels right

1172
01:59:54,080 --> 02:00:06,120
yeah yeah now getting into effects where are we sitting boys I mean it really you

1173
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:11,240
know mine already so I want to hear your guys's because like I really only have I

1174
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:17,000
really only have one effects problem it's giant but I only have one all right

1175
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:29,280
so just so since we don't have your score yet DJ the our average score is 75

1176
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:44,320
wait wait is one higher and mine is one lower I'm going honestly can I just tell

1177
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:53,560
you I okay mate I like it ready one two three go one seven three and now 79 79

1178
02:00:53,560 --> 02:01:02,840
79 and by the way I feel like the really the worst there were only two really bad

1179
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:07,720
moments one was really bad and one was momentarily bad the first bad one was

1180
02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:11,600
when he started to fly and he went up in the clouds and you're like all right come

1181
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:17,240
on like you're clearly one of those windsock people that goes in front of a

1182
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:25,760
car dealership and then the the by the way I was waiting for the moment because

1183
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:29,640
I was like this Smith fight doesn't look so bad it doesn't look as bad as I

1184
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:35,280
remember and then he pulls the bar out of the ground and he hits him and breaks

1185
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:40,480
the concrete off on him and that's the last real thing that happened because

1186
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:46,160
everything after that was bananas I was like are you watching this watching the

1187
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:52,920
bodies fly and stuff is just amazing like someone listen because I did cheat

1188
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:57,400
a little bit because I needed to juice myself for this as well so I listened to

1189
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:02,040
I listened to a podcast that actually weirdly enough just came out a couple

1190
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:08,120
days ago about the matrix reloaded and one thing that they they clued me off to

1191
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:12,520
that I forgot about but I noticed when I watched the movie right near the end of

1192
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:17,120
that fight if you look he grabs a Smith that comes at him he throws it at a

1193
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:21,920
bunch of other Smiths and then he takes off flying okay right before he takes

1194
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:30,480
off flying do you know what the sound effect is bowling pins falling over I

1195
02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:37,280
really wish that I had the ability to use a notepad in that moment because I

1196
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,840
wanted to write that I feel like there was like so many yeah sound effects like

1197
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,840
that like not only just like bowling pins I feel like there was like others

1198
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:51,080
that was the most to me egregious one because I was like what are we doing

1199
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:55,560
here like what is this movie now like it almost seemed like they had like someone

1200
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:58,400
guest direct that part and they were like this is a comic book movie right

1201
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:05,280
we'll just put some bowling pins in there oh my gosh that's the equivalent

1202
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:11,320
of like the whim Wilhelm scream dude it was so fun I mean and by the way again

1203
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:16,480
up until it went CG crazy like that fight was awesome because one of the

1204
02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:21,280
things I I said this about Black Widow and I'll say it about this too is when

1205
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:25,520
there is a gang of people trying to fight one person and they do the like

1206
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:30,260
one at a time fighting like everybody hates that and I think Black Widow did

1207
02:03:30,260 --> 02:03:34,000
that well because they had that scene up in the up in the red room or whatever

1208
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:37,680
the place is called and they you know everyone was coming at her at once and

1209
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:41,200
it was like that here like you have a Smith holding him back while two other

1210
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:44,240
ones are punching him in the face and like they're going crazy and like the

1211
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:50,560
fight looked amazing and god dang though but that freaking that 2003

1212
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:57,640
PlayStation one game they started playing it was crazy basically what it

1213
02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:03,720
turned into they just filmed somebody playing the game is all that's all I mean

1214
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:08,340
listen that also goes to show that like dark the dark when you're doing special

1215
02:04:08,340 --> 02:04:12,720
effects really hides a lot of sin because I think that the machines still

1216
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:18,800
looks pretty good I think that you know Zion was like non-descript but like

1217
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:23,000
clearly that was not supposed to be like a big huge set piece other than you were

1218
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:29,720
supposed to see like there's a lot of people here anyway so I none of it look

1219
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:34,440
you it didn't dwell on anything else long enough for it to look super bad so

1220
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:38,840
that's why I can justify giving it a 79 but it just doesn't quite hit the 80

1221
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:48,800
cuz God it's just so bad yeah that was once it got to that point it was like

1222
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:54,320
super rough and like yeah when he was flying around I was like one step above

1223
02:04:54,320 --> 02:05:00,920
like Superman and 64 one thing I did think was cool even though it did look

1224
02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:08,000
kind of cheesy I really liked the the twins the ghosts and the cool thing that

1225
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,960
they did the coolest thing that they did was whenever they were trying to go

1226
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:17,560
after the key maker and he phased through and then like became corporeal

1227
02:05:17,560 --> 02:05:20,920
right in the back seat and was like I got him like that was awesome like they

1228
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:26,440
looked cheesy of course but like it was for having like ghosts in the matrix

1229
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:33,480
like I think that was pretty awesome yeah yeah I actually boosted my score

1230
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:37,120
because of that because I thought that was like really creative yes with

1231
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:40,920
everything that they did and the way that they were able to pull that off it

1232
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:45,920
looked really good like I thought they could have done some crazy shit with

1233
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:52,400
with them becoming intangible and like I mean now you could probably do it where

1234
02:05:52,400 --> 02:05:57,920
it's like you could do like a punch through someone or like they just fly

1235
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:03,880
through someone and rip out an organ or some shit like that but that might have

1236
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:09,760
been a tad too gruesome well by the way if you notice there was a very very very

1237
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:13,720
very very little blood in this movie because if you see whenever they're

1238
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:18,920
going to get the key master like dude I mean I was so here's a weird thing I was

1239
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:23,240
listening to it because I was watching on my phone I was listening to it

1240
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:28,600
through my Bluetooth headphones their earbuds and two things about that that

1241
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:34,120
fight with the mirror of Minji and sends everybody after him one with as many

1242
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:39,920
knife sounds as he as I heard everyone should have been sliced into a thousand

1243
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:46,880
pieces like individually and you saw like almost no blood in that but two one

1244
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:51,800
thing I realized in that scene in particular like every time that he would

1245
02:06:51,800 --> 02:06:56,200
like move the sigh and hit something it would make the noise but then it would

1246
02:06:56,200 --> 02:07:00,800
make it again right after like they were putting extra like ching ching ching

1247
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,240
like just extra noises in and I'm like are they cheating like is this actually

1248
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:10,040
going as fast as it seems like or are they just putting so many noises in there

1249
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:17,360
that it seems like it by the way is there do you have one for music by the

1250
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:20,360
way this I would say this is what I'm gonna tell you is not music this is more

1251
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:24,120
like an audio thing that I noticed because again wearing headphones it's

1252
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:28,200
weird that it was actually kind of a bit of a cooler experience using headphones

1253
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:32,720
because when they first at the very beginning because you think you're in

1254
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:38,680
the matrix but you're just seeing Neo's vision of the future but then when they

1255
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:43,080
actually go to the matrix and they're about to go to that meeting like if you

1256
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:47,360
if you really pay attention you can hear and you can even see over in the left

1257
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:52,560
corner you can hear the cat and it's the same cat noise from the the cat that

1258
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:57,000
he's like oh deja vu like you can barely hear it but you can hear it and if you

1259
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:01,920
look in the background you can see the cat which I thought was a very cool

1260
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:05,880
thing that I don't know if I ever would have known because I've rewound it a

1261
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:09,480
couple times I'm like did I really hear it and then I'm looking and I saw it but

1262
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:13,520
I don't think I ever would have noticed that if I wasn't wearing headphones

1263
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:25,200
that's crazy yeah I I tried to be as fair as humanly possible with older

1264
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:31,680
movies like I went through and it was trying to compare it with like other CGI

1265
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:37,960
heavy movies from that like from the same year and the only one that like

1266
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:43,680
really stuck out was League of Extraordinary Gentlemen but I so I I

1267
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:50,000
messed up the year that it like came out and I was looking up 2004 first and I

1268
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:55,280
was going through and I'm like oh my gosh this this score is is low like

1269
02:08:55,280 --> 02:08:59,700
because this came out the same year as spider-man or spider-man 2 this came at

1270
02:08:59,700 --> 02:09:03,360
the same like there was a bunch of movies and then I like looked up the

1271
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:09,400
actual year and I was like oh I'm like a year off yeah it's hard especially

1272
02:09:09,400 --> 02:09:16,760
like that again like I think that this is like the poster child for what can go

1273
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:22,000
wrong once you get too much money because like if you look at the matrix

1274
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,360
like that was one of the things that I loved about that movie is that they used

1275
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:29,080
special effects and practical like perfectly together in my opinion and

1276
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:33,920
this one they were like we have all this money why don't we why don't we make

1277
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:43,280
attack of the clones we could just do that so yeah I don't know yeah so any

1278
02:09:43,280 --> 02:09:49,880
other effects you guys want to talk about no I kind of hit the nail on the

1279
02:09:49,880 --> 02:10:01,160
head all right moving on over to music so this is like technically it's audio I

1280
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:08,120
just haven't changed it yet because I'm lazy but yeah so anything music related

1281
02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:12,880
anything audio related which like we said probably includes that bowling pins

1282
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:22,320
thing and the excessive use of size clanging oh wait I'll still give it a 90

1283
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:26,600
because it sounded matrix you know what I mean like matrix clearly has a vibe

1284
02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:34,240
the fact that the fact that at the end of the movie they have this big this big

1285
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:40,600
like oh my god it's Bane in there with him just go right into rage against the

1286
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:46,800
machine like I love how ridiculous that is like they have this this big serious

1287
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:51,520
moment and then they bust into rage against the machine like it's I like I

1288
02:10:51,520 --> 02:11:00,600
I think the matrix music is iconic so I would say I would say it's a 90 so good

1289
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:15,120
for bowling pins nine okay nine I just I can't win today no you're good yeah I

1290
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:23,840
was a 9.0 yeah so we're we're averaging out now with your score we're averaging

1291
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:32,680
out an eight for for that what did you guys give it yeah they gave it an eight I

1292
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:38,080
gave it a seven and just because I didn't like I had a dock for the damn

1293
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:48,720
bowling pins and I didn't catch like the excessive clanging but I did kind of

1294
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:56,840
dock for the soundtrack because it was very I feel like it aged like really

1295
02:11:56,840 --> 02:12:03,880
heavily with the weird techno music that they were doing I mean I don't know

1296
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:07,720
maybe I'm confused but like I all I wrote I mean I definitely remember the

1297
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:13,360
techno scene come on but like I just always whenever I maybe it's just my own

1298
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:17,600
headcanon but like every time I think of anything that happens in the matrix I

1299
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:22,120
just think of that swelling like brass you know what I mean and I I don't know

1300
02:12:22,120 --> 02:12:26,040
maybe that's not what's actually happening but that's how I always hear

1301
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:35,400
it in my head yeah I mean the the matrix score itself is really good but I'm just

1302
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:40,680
taking everything else into consideration too and techno music kind

1303
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:51,240
of sucks how dare you techno music was all the rage in 2003 that's what that's

1304
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:57,280
exactly why I docked it you know I heard a good point though is like what we're

1305
02:12:57,280 --> 02:13:02,120
really hearing is like the Wachowski's like we're seeing what they liked like I

1306
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:05,760
feel like especially with that rave scene where they were like this is what

1307
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:14,680
this is just for us I feel like someone else that kind of does I feel like he

1308
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:19,280
does tries to do it a little bit better but James Gunn anytime he chooses a

1309
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:24,520
soundtrack like if he choose when he chooses a soundtrack at least when it

1310
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:30,400
came to like Guardians of the Galaxy he like he said that he tries to choose

1311
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:40,280
songs and and music that that character would like and then like like when it

1312
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:46,160
came to like volume one and volume two like of those soundtracks like the

1313
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:52,240
awesome mix he said he I was choosing songs that Peter's mom would have liked I

1314
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:58,780
think that one thing I like about James Gunn is I feel like he he I don't know

1315
02:13:58,780 --> 02:14:04,160
this obviously but I feel like he toils over that because it's like in my mind

1316
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:09,480
because he usually picks thing picks music that pairs like perfectly not just

1317
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:14,280
with the movie as a whole but with like the scene that's happening so it's it

1318
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:22,640
seems to be like oddly perfect when he puts music in so I mean as far as he's

1319
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:28,240
he is to music in movies as Quentin Tarantino is to conversations in movies

1320
02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:36,880
to bring it all back around yeah absolutely agreed on that IE the

1321
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:42,120
original Suicide Squad when everybody was like what is this trash why are you

1322
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:51,120
doing this stop doing this to me total side note I would love to see James Gunn

1323
02:14:51,120 --> 02:15:01,200
try and take on the matrix dude that would be amazing well I feel like he

1324
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:06,000
well I don't know cuz now I'm thinking of like the what was it the Wilco Bill co

1325
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:13,760
project Belko project did you guys see that movie oh my god please do

1326
02:15:13,760 --> 02:15:17,320
yourselves a favor I'm not gonna tell you anything else just watch that movie

1327
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:22,840
as soon as you can please what's it called I'm pretty sure it's called the

1328
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:38,440
Belko project or the Belko experiment it's a bill god dang it oh yeah BELKO

1329
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:45,240
the Belko experiment I don't know you know what he might have he did not

1330
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:51,440
direct that movie but he wrote it and yeah it's very good let's see if the

1331
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:59,400
synopsis gives it away and a twisted social experiment no I'm just gonna let

1332
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:03,680
you just watch the movie don't find any don't don't look don't find don't look

1333
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:07,560
in a trailer don't do anything just the blind watch go on a blind watch yeah I

1334
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:19,760
would love to know the the blind reaction to that movie yeah anything else

1335
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:26,560
music wise that you guys wanna know all right like I said we're sitting at an

1336
02:16:26,560 --> 02:16:37,680
eight with music now moving on over to costumes dude I don't know how they

1337
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:44,040
dropped so significantly from the first one why was why was Neil wearing a

1338
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:53,320
dress the entire time how dare you that was a duster it was just made of

1339
02:16:53,320 --> 02:17:00,520
alligator leather that's all yeah I mean clear again this was a the thing they

1340
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:06,560
were saying that I heard somebody saying to is like clearly the Wachowskis had a

1341
02:17:06,560 --> 02:17:10,880
style that they were into and they were like there will be no diversity

1342
02:17:10,880 --> 02:17:17,880
everyone will dress in the heaviest of leathers and I mean they were pretty

1343
02:17:17,880 --> 02:17:22,040
diverse in there the types of leather like Morpheus was wearing like

1344
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:33,400
alligator skin yeah Trinity was wearing just the all types of shapely leather it

1345
02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:39,840
was I mean listen they were oh you know what the god dang it I cannot believe I

1346
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:43,280
forgot to mention this this probably should have said this way earlier but

1347
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:47,240
this could go with costumes too I was thinking about because you remember

1348
02:17:47,240 --> 02:17:52,760
when they said when Trinity was like I thought you said never to go on the

1349
02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:56,840
freeway and he's like you know it's suicide and he's like well I hope I'm

1350
02:17:56,840 --> 02:18:00,640
wrong it dawned on me I don't know if this is what the actual intention was

1351
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:04,000
but it dawned on me while they were on the freeway that that is like that was

1352
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:08,080
supposed to be like the normie internet and like really what we've been seeing

1353
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:13,560
this whole time is like people dealing in the matrix version of the dark web

1354
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:17,440
like that's all we've really ever seen this whole time and then because if you

1355
02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:23,240
look during that whole chase like the one thing that's crazy that's happening

1356
02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:28,840
is that cars aren't just going hey man this is nuts and splitting off and just

1357
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,680
pulling off the road like everyone's just driving like normal and to me this

1358
02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:37,960
is like we are looking at the the normie internet like that was our that was like

1359
02:18:37,960 --> 02:18:41,360
oh I went on to AOL and I went into a chat room like that's where they were

1360
02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:44,840
for a while and that's why that's suicide because I would imagine it's

1361
02:18:44,840 --> 02:18:50,880
that much easier to find them there and maybe they dressed the way they dressed

1362
02:18:50,880 --> 02:18:54,880
is because they were living in the shadows and they thought that was what

1363
02:18:54,880 --> 02:19:00,860
cool people that lived in the shadows would dress like so that's my that's my

1364
02:19:00,860 --> 02:19:06,720
one pitch for why they dress like that that is actually that's actually a

1365
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:15,040
really good explanation yeah let's say that's it's like so symbolic just in the

1366
02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:21,640
way they dress symbolism and everything in this movie in these movies like that

1367
02:19:21,640 --> 02:19:31,920
explains so much but it doesn't explain why Nia was wearing a dress so no it was

1368
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:36,920
a duster okay like his trench coat in the first one was super cool like it

1369
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:44,520
still had like that same look I'm just like why did they have to go with the

1370
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:56,240
the duster because he's the one dude do what he wants it was a very poor

1371
02:19:56,240 --> 02:20:02,080
decision but kudos to whoever got Carrie-Anne Moss to wear that outfit

1372
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:08,920
because how you doing well that was just like a riff on what she already was

1373
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:12,720
wearing right in the first movie because that seemed very similar if not almost

1374
02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:20,640
exactly the same dude that shit looked like it was shrink wrap to her and I

1375
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:31,800
was not complaining in the slightest hilarious have you like I don't I feel

1376
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:38,920
like she's aged super well I think we're gonna see that for sure in the Matrix

1377
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:45,920
whatever it's called the Matrix resurrection push the rock away from the

1378
02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:55,920
roll the stone away after the third day that'll be the true test all right

1379
02:20:55,920 --> 02:21:03,600
where are you sitting that with with costumes all right I guess I have to say

1380
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:07,840
it you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with an eight because of the

1381
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:15,880
explanation that I gave so I feel like I pulled that so far from the depth

1382
02:21:15,880 --> 02:21:22,760
that that deserves to give them one an eight for that all righty well that

1383
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:34,360
averages us out to an eight you're welcome the matrix reloaded all right

1384
02:21:34,360 --> 02:21:40,520
last up we got our own personal scores for this movie so one of you gents want

1385
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:46,820
to take it first I mean I'll just I'll just throw the dynamite and say this is

1386
02:21:46,820 --> 02:21:52,600
getting a hundred for me because again I can under I understand what this movie

1387
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:59,680
is okay I get it but I again like this is there are a couple podcasts I listened

1388
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:02,800
to where they ask if you could only have three movies for the rest of your life

1389
02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:08,760
what would they be and it's the Matrix trilogy all day long so I I've gotta I

1390
02:22:08,760 --> 02:22:15,860
am compelled to give it the correct score by the way this is a personal

1391
02:22:15,860 --> 02:22:23,560
grade okay so this is supposed to be like neglecting right around this this

1392
02:22:23,560 --> 02:22:30,160
can be as bias as you as you want it what did I remind me my score for this

1393
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:38,280
one Caleb you gave it an 88 yeah I I'm at 88 for this one just because again a

1394
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:44,600
lot of it I think is those nostalgia goggles but then again like

1395
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:50,320
appreciating more of the like appreciating the stuff outside of the

1396
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:57,440
action is kind of what gets it there or keeps it right there for me does not

1397
02:22:57,440 --> 02:23:03,800
really go in any lower yeah I mean it really is a good movie it's one that

1398
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:10,120
like I don't mind rewatching so I think yeah I think it's deserving of an 88 for

1399
02:23:10,120 --> 02:23:21,520
me yeah I'm on the the lower side with this one I'm down at a 72 I I did have a

1400
02:23:21,520 --> 02:23:25,840
really good good time watching this movie like it was it was fun but I did

1401
02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:32,560
catch myself kind of drifting a little bit kind of getting a little bit too I

1402
02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:40,720
was noticing my surroundings it was two hours and 18 minutes like it was a long

1403
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:46,920
movie like I I'm glad we talked about this because it was a it did not have to

1404
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:56,840
be that long yeah um in the so I like I said I watched it in VR and the the app

1405
02:23:56,840 --> 02:24:03,720
that I play with or that I was watching it on you can you can spawn like

1406
02:24:03,720 --> 02:24:09,360
popcorn and and a drink that you can like hold and if you wanted to you could

1407
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:13,760
like throw and the popcorn kind of goes flying everywhere so I caught myself

1408
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:19,160
doing that a couple times where I'm just like I'm just like let's get on with it

1409
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:25,640
so yeah I did that a couple times and like just when I was drifting because

1410
02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:33,520
there's either that or fall asleep and I did not want to fall asleep so you know

1411
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:44,880
what happens you fall asleep in VR yeah you wake up and lose your mind but yeah

1412
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:48,920
it is just for the that reason I think there was just a lot of times where it

1413
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:55,840
dragged on a little too long and that just kind of killed it for me and then

1414
02:24:55,840 --> 02:25:01,840
again with the super confusing story and just like not really understanding where

1415
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:08,160
where everyone's coming from or where they're going which from the sound of it

1416
02:25:08,160 --> 02:25:13,940
and talking it out seems like they had no idea where they were going until they

1417
02:25:13,940 --> 02:25:20,800
got there that's the problem I think is that like it is they have this story

1418
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:25,880
they want to tell and the allegory they're using is you know human

1419
02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:32,520
computers and they are like if they are threading the needle they're just

1420
02:25:32,520 --> 02:25:38,360
they're barely doing it because like I get why I actually can in my mind

1421
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:45,240
understand why Neo was able to or I'm sorry I not understand but I can make

1422
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:52,160
the logical leap of why Neo could like force electrocute those those squiddies

1423
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:58,400
at the end because you know really what he did eventually was bring some of that

1424
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:02,800
matrix code out with him because we know that the we know that part of the matrix

1425
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:08,200
can come out with you and we know that you know he's he always was part of that

1426
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:13,400
like whether he realized it or not is like part of what he was was matrix code

1427
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:19,920
so he is just continuing that out and technically since he is code and they

1428
02:26:19,920 --> 02:26:26,600
those squids are connected to the matrix or whatever to the main to the source he

1429
02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:32,680
could do that but like again like it's such a frickin big thing that they're

1430
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:38,000
trying to do and it's I think you could make a good case that they focused on a

1431
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:46,640
lot of the wrong things yeah I think you can definitely make that argument yeah

1432
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:53,080
alrighty well that averages us out to an eighty six point six for a personal

1433
02:26:53,080 --> 02:27:04,160
grade yeah so with that that concludes this week's breakdown and the final

1434
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:12,000
all bros untrained eye and crash and taz movie seller score for the matrix

1435
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:27,360
reload it has come to uh roses in here to do drumroll but a b-a all right wait

1436
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:30,320
before you tell what movies surround it can I tell you a funny anecdote that

1437
02:27:30,320 --> 02:27:35,840
happened just recently you are gonna love this my nephew he's 14 years old

1438
02:27:35,840 --> 02:27:40,320
poor guy he's like he's like oh you're doing a podcast tonight and I was like

1439
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:44,480
yeah and I was like I'm doing the matrix too he's like the matrix he's like I

1440
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:48,760
think I saw aren't they making a new movie about the matrix with John wick and

1441
02:27:48,760 --> 02:27:58,400
I was like I died I was like dude I was like that is making it to the show my

1442
02:27:58,400 --> 02:28:09,920
friend like that's the funniest thing anybody's ever said doesn't that shit

1443
02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:15,240
just kind of make you feel old I mean I laughed out loud when he said that I was

1444
02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:20,080
like my mind was blown I was like no you mean the guy from the matrix is gonna be

1445
02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:38,360
in the matrix John wick sorry go ahead no you're good yeah so it is it is a

1446
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:50,240
it's a b- so compared to our other b- movies which we have 19 of it is

1447
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:57,440
sitting at 13 all right all right start with what's ahead of it what's ahead of

1448
02:28:57,440 --> 02:29:01,320
it yeah I want to know I want to know last what's behind it because I feel

1449
02:29:01,320 --> 02:29:04,800
like it's all gonna make me either sad or I'm gonna have to quit the show I

1450
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:11,520
don't know it'll be number seven host I don't know all right so we're sitting at

1451
02:29:11,520 --> 02:29:19,360
an eighty one point six six percent so that puts it you want it wait you want

1452
02:29:19,360 --> 02:29:24,440
to know what's above it or below yeah I think people are gonna be more upset by

1453
02:29:24,440 --> 02:29:32,600
what's below it so I want to hear what's above it first okay that's that's true

1454
02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:44,040
like yeah all right so that puts it below birds of prey which is at an eighty

1455
02:29:44,040 --> 02:29:51,000
one point seven five it is below holiday and handcuffs which is at an eighty one

1456
02:29:51,000 --> 02:30:07,520
point seven eight you blame Jason oh my stomach hurts oh my god that's amazing

1457
02:30:07,520 --> 02:30:19,800
it is below spiral which is at an eighty one point nine three it is also our yeah

1458
02:30:19,800 --> 02:30:25,200
it's so it's below okay it's below spiral the war with grandpa and rogue

1459
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:32,960
one which are all at an eighty one point nine three nice then it also puts it

1460
02:30:32,960 --> 02:30:43,120
below it chapter two which is at an eighty one point nine five so it we

1461
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:49,160
there's like a shit ton of movies like like if we're talking margins like the

1462
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:55,840
the percentage difference the matrix reloaded like before you even get a full

1463
02:30:55,840 --> 02:31:07,080
percentage above this movie we're at like the second movie be be minus movie

1464
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:21,240
that's like telling a kid you like barely lost you almost got a full a

1465
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:26,680
what's so what what did it beat now all right yeah so there's a lot of my day to

1466
02:31:26,680 --> 02:31:34,640
be killed eleven movies above the matrix reloaded before you get a full like one

1467
02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:45,960
full percentage that's amazing yeah so the matrix reloaded is above late night

1468
02:31:45,960 --> 02:31:54,600
which is at an eighty one point three seven is above Deadpool 2 which is at an

1469
02:31:54,600 --> 02:32:05,880
eighty one I knew I was gonna catch it for that one oh yeah which is at an

1470
02:32:05,880 --> 02:32:13,040
eighty one point zero eight it is above the banana splits movie which is at an

1471
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:23,440
eighty point nine one it is above dune which is at an eighty point six two it

1472
02:32:23,440 --> 02:32:30,960
is also above good boys eighty point two five and it is above movie that yeah

1473
02:32:30,960 --> 02:32:34,560
well you can't bitch about that one you were on that episode I know but they're

1474
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:37,360
all and they're two different but they're two different movies they're two

1475
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:41,520
different like genre of movies so it's kind of hard yeah no go for it go for

1476
02:32:41,520 --> 02:32:46,080
it for everyone listening I just wish you could see Vic he is currently dying

1477
02:32:46,080 --> 02:32:53,840
like I am watching him pass away in front of my very eyes yeah and then

1478
02:32:53,840 --> 02:33:02,480
finally it is above Nomad land which is at an eighty point one eight by the way

1479
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:07,280
we need to do this the same way for the third movie too because people if you

1480
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:11,940
think people are mad about Deadpool being below this movie for sure whatever

1481
02:33:11,940 --> 02:33:17,560
is below the next one people are going to lose their minds

1482
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:24,560
unsubscribe unsubscribe unsubscribe

1483
02:33:26,840 --> 02:33:34,360
forget where did the other matrix son of a bitch like they get higher no so yeah

1484
02:33:34,360 --> 02:33:44,920
the first matrix got an a-minus that's correct yeah and just to piss Vic off

1485
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:53,200
that put it above the Avengers yeah I heard I heard what it was above it's not

1486
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:59,240
relive this shit it's twice you guys just let me down actually I have to blame

1487
02:33:59,240 --> 02:34:09,200
myself for this one because I'm part of it now dude I'm you have no idea how

1488
02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:15,680
happy or not even happy how filled with joy I was that you were losing your mind

1489
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:23,800
that if your far from home score went lower you were trying so hard to make it

1490
02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:30,720
higher and it ended up doing it again and it's getting hundreds all across the

1491
02:34:30,720 --> 02:34:36,600
board on my on my side I think that's correct

1492
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:46,960
so funny anyway if you guys want to check out our whole like rating system I

1493
02:34:46,960 --> 02:34:52,800
have a link to it in our on our website any movie we've ever breaking down and

1494
02:34:52,800 --> 02:35:00,920
just like a couple bonus ones yeah are all on our website so I'm trying to see

1495
02:35:00,920 --> 02:35:04,520
if I missed anything oh here's a fun piece of trivia you might not know about

1496
02:35:04,520 --> 02:35:09,960
that movie remember at the end when they were when Neo passed out and they were

1497
02:35:09,960 --> 02:35:13,800
like the Hammers here to save us that ship came and they call it they called

1498
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:18,680
it the hammer do you know why they call it the hammer because they couldn't

1499
02:35:18,680 --> 02:35:28,520
pronounce its actual name you know its actual name mule near serious that is

1500
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:32,480
some trivia that I read and I choose to believe it I don't know if it's true or

1501
02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:36,760
not but I think it's hilarious that a bunch of frickin ground-dwelling idiots

1502
02:35:36,760 --> 02:35:51,480
were like I don't know how to say that word I'll call it the hammer alrighty

1503
02:35:51,480 --> 02:36:02,080
well like I said this concludes this week's breakdown yeah so you guys want

1504
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:12,360
to share where we can find you you gentlemen DJ go for it man

1505
02:36:12,360 --> 02:36:18,000
hi everybody I'm DJ you might remember me from such programs as the Albrows the

1506
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:23,920
matrix one you can find me on my own show the untrained eye that I do with my

1507
02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:28,120
wife Bethany it is a great show you should check it out we talk about things

1508
02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:33,520
and stuff you can find it wherever just type in the untrained eye and whatever

1509
02:36:33,520 --> 02:36:38,800
you're listening to right now if you want to see if I ever post on any social

1510
02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:45,040
media just follow at untrained iPod and just know that if I follow you back on

1511
02:36:45,040 --> 02:36:49,920
Instagram I'll like your stuff but I probably am NOT gonna post a whole lot

1512
02:36:50,840 --> 02:36:55,680
that is true I don't feel like you post as often as you used to can I tell you

1513
02:36:55,680 --> 02:36:59,640
something I looked at it I thought I was like five or six posts behind I'm like

1514
02:36:59,640 --> 02:37:06,040
15 posts behind I have so many one day you're just gonna get like a and just

1515
02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:12,240
gonna see what the untrained eye is back they're here and they're posting

1516
02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:26,880
Instagram is such a weird platform like anytime I've posted like the question

1517
02:37:26,880 --> 02:37:32,960
of the week like I usually get an average of like 13 maybe 15 likes on

1518
02:37:32,960 --> 02:37:38,760
something like that I post the artwork and like same thing like I get maybe a

1519
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:44,960
little bit less like 9 to 12 and so I was kind of just expecting around the

1520
02:37:44,960 --> 02:37:51,120
same number when I posted the newly animated artworks that I've done and now

1521
02:37:51,120 --> 02:37:59,680
I've gotten like three there is nothing like social media to be like oh yeah do

1522
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:08,680
you feel special you're not I've had such like a confidence complex with that

1523
02:38:08,680 --> 02:38:12,320
because I'm like because I've been met like I'm not sure if you saw the the

1524
02:38:12,320 --> 02:38:20,400
retweet group but I posted I'm like do you guys think this is dumb it's fun it

1525
02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:24,800
sucks because I feel really bad because I used to be super good and on it about

1526
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:30,560
all things social media and my days now are so freaking like jam-packed in the

1527
02:38:30,560 --> 02:38:33,400
sense that like I have to go from this thing to this thing to this thing and

1528
02:38:33,400 --> 02:38:38,720
everything is like everything is scheduled out up until like sleeping and

1529
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:43,040
then I look and I'm like oh I was supposed to retweet this two days ago

1530
02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:47,560
like the episode I was on I retweeted like three days late like what is the

1531
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:52,400
matter with me so that's why I say follow you at the untrained iPod we're

1532
02:38:52,400 --> 02:38:54,600
out there

1533
02:38:57,560 --> 02:39:03,160
all right Vic where can people find you and I'm that's just bad at getting shit

1534
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:09,400
out there my name is crash I'm from the Crip and Taz movie seller pretty much do

1535
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:14,600
the same thing that we just did here today except a little bit more vulgar on

1536
02:39:14,600 --> 02:39:20,600
our show it's pretty much the biggest difference I think we let the f-bombs

1537
02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:28,120
fly freely yeah and you go out instead of a hundred yeah that's who we go out

1538
02:39:28,120 --> 02:39:32,080
of ten just very simple shit it's just me and my uncle we like to talk about

1539
02:39:32,080 --> 02:39:38,320
movies and yeah you can follow us too on Instagram where I shouldn't has movie

1540
02:39:38,320 --> 02:39:43,640
seller it's the letter N in between crash and Taz and underscores in between

1541
02:39:43,640 --> 02:39:52,920
each word and yeah pretty much same thing so hell yeah alrighty well if you

1542
02:39:52,920 --> 02:39:58,200
like this episode want to check out more of our stuff be sure to follow and

1543
02:39:58,200 --> 02:40:02,360
subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts we are basically everywhere

1544
02:40:02,360 --> 02:40:09,440
we're also on social media Facebook Twitter Instagram LinkedIn for some

1545
02:40:09,440 --> 02:40:20,640
reason all at the all bros we're oh we're also on tick-tock now we have like

1546
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:27,400
one video that we've we've posted you can find us on on that at the all bros

1547
02:40:27,400 --> 02:40:36,320
channel so yeah go check it out let's see we have other shit too you can also

1548
02:40:36,320 --> 02:40:41,600
email us if you want at the all bros channel gmail.com if you have an episode

1549
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:49,480
idea want to join us for an episode or honestly whatever the hell you want to

1550
02:40:49,480 --> 02:40:54,560
message us about you can also go to our website where you can find links to

1551
02:40:54,560 --> 02:41:03,320
everything that we do tinyurl.com forward slash the all bros yeah I mean if

1552
02:41:03,320 --> 02:41:14,480
you want go buy a monster house go get your monster house merch now you got a

1553
02:41:14,480 --> 02:41:22,920
baby buy that baby a monster house shirt I feel like people buy that because like

1554
02:41:22,920 --> 02:41:28,320
it's a dreamcast one so our like it's our logo above and says the all bros

1555
02:41:28,320 --> 02:41:32,160
present and then below it says a dreamcast and I'm like I feel like people

1556
02:41:32,160 --> 02:41:36,960
buy that so they can just like scratch off our logo so they're like look at my

1557
02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:43,200
cool monster house shirt what oh what a weird long road to do like why not just

1558
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:48,600
get your own shirt made like I think you actually just have legit people that

1559
02:41:48,600 --> 02:41:55,240
love your show and they love monster house why can't two things be true dude

1560
02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:59,280
I I don't know what the hell is up with that because like the monster house

1561
02:41:59,280 --> 02:42:07,040
episode is like one of our least popular I mean along with like 89 others say

1562
02:42:07,040 --> 02:42:11,000
maybe you should re-release it you know just like hey we're gonna do a throwback

1563
02:42:11,000 --> 02:42:15,280
Thursday here's some monster house for the people who clearly are craving

1564
02:42:15,280 --> 02:42:26,280
monster house yeah but if you want shirts with way better artwork on them

1565
02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:32,760
at least okay the ones that say featuring crash and test

1566
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:42,680
okay well I don't want to get copyright strikes from you so I've been I released

1567
02:42:42,680 --> 02:42:49,400
the separate ones wait you did not release the one that had the the three

1568
02:42:49,400 --> 02:42:59,560
spider-men on it oh my god that's one I don't know what to do with so I mean if

1569
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:06,800
you guys are cool with me posting it I will have for sure if that thing I would

1570
02:43:06,800 --> 02:43:13,840
go ahead I would love that and if you get nothing would make me happier than

1571
02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:24,080
if someone gets to buy that shirt ie me or you get copyright right away I don't

1572
02:43:24,080 --> 02:43:29,680
know if copyright stricken is an actual phrase but I just said it anyway

1573
02:43:29,680 --> 02:43:38,360
yeah oh alright so I guess I'll post that too

1574
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:47,680
yeah you finally saw all that stuff on our on our website links to everything

1575
02:43:47,680 --> 02:43:54,000
that I that we do everything that DJ does and everything that Vic does will

1576
02:43:54,000 --> 02:44:04,520
all be in the description so next week you guys can look forward to our 200th

1577
02:44:04,520 --> 02:44:15,240
episode where we will we will be breaking down a video game I butchered

1578
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:21,600
that we will be breaking down the video game Jedi the fallen order

1579
02:44:21,600 --> 02:44:36,040
nope Star Wars Jedi fallen order Star Wars I love this show by the way guys

1580
02:44:36,040 --> 02:44:40,000
thanks for the the first and only surprise party I've ever had

1581
02:44:40,000 --> 02:44:56,680
that was the best part of my day I gotta tell you I am rarely genuinely shocked

1582
02:44:56,680 --> 02:45:02,480
and that was a gen I was shocked because I was like that's hilarious he made this

1583
02:45:02,480 --> 02:45:08,080
audio file for Caleb to play and then when you showed up I was like I this is

1584
02:45:08,080 --> 02:45:13,840
I can't believe this is happening this is so good did Rose know or you like we

1585
02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:22,960
don't need you tonight Rose no Rose knew he just like I said just got held up at

1586
02:45:22,960 --> 02:45:27,680
work and so just kind of worked out perfect I was gonna say you know what

1587
02:45:27,680 --> 02:45:32,920
the not that you know I wish Rose was here you know doing the breakdown with

1588
02:45:32,920 --> 02:45:39,080
us today but you know I think him not being able to make it just made it that

1589
02:45:39,080 --> 02:45:43,120
much easier too because you know okay like Caleb was able to say you know

1590
02:45:43,120 --> 02:45:49,000
well Rose isn't here but I've got my special guests and then we were like oh

1591
02:45:49,000 --> 02:45:52,480
that like that sounds so much better than what the hell we had planned before

1592
02:45:52,480 --> 02:46:01,560
so you know yeah wait there was another ambush plan in the works no so like what

1593
02:46:01,560 --> 02:46:06,480
we were going to do with Rose like we were going to just do like the normal

1594
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:13,400
intro and be like and we are joined by our by our honorary like our unofficial

1595
02:46:13,400 --> 02:46:21,000
third third host and then like just have Vic interrupt you it was basically the

1596
02:46:21,000 --> 02:46:28,880
same thing but we just you know didn't have the Quentin Tarantino skills to

1597
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:35,000
pull off a good script no dude that way I cannot wait to hear this again because

1598
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:40,720
like I am I almost wish that this was a video like this was streamed somewhere

1599
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:45,720
because I would love to see my own dumb face because I'm like wait what

1600
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:53,720
dude I could tell like gosh I wish I just wish I could have this I know I was

1601
02:46:53,720 --> 02:46:58,440
gonna say I wish I could have seen like hearing DJ's voice like his just like

1602
02:46:58,440 --> 02:47:03,720
hearing his voice you know in the whole like him reacting to me like as I kept

1603
02:47:03,720 --> 02:47:08,080
going was in my head just painted such a funny picture but I wish I could have

1604
02:47:08,080 --> 02:47:12,520
seen that that's why I tried my damndest to get onto the video chat as soon as I

1605
02:47:12,520 --> 02:47:20,040
could and to see him still shocked that was amazing I love it yeah I got a shock

1606
02:47:20,040 --> 02:47:25,440
any day I loved it you could like tell the instant you realize that it was

1607
02:47:25,440 --> 02:47:38,640
actually him and not a recording is great good stuff all right well we'll

1608
02:47:38,640 --> 02:47:46,360
catch you guys next week and until then this has been the all bros podcast with

1609
02:47:46,360 --> 02:47:55,600
special guest and unofficial third hosts or DJ and Vic we will catch you guys

1610
02:47:55,600 --> 02:48:18,840
next time Dave's so long Rose I tried it I tried it it wasn't as good

