What is up bros?
Welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are once again joined by our unofficial third host DJ from the untrained eye.
What are we ever going to make it official of who is the third host and who isn't?
Yeah, well, listen, my whoever wants to commit to dropping their show for ours.
I listen, I will drop dragging the table right now.
That hurts Rose right here in my heart.
I'm not going to make them.
No, I'm not making them drop untrained eye because that's Beth's show too.
That is Beth's show first and I just help her.
I just I just talk until she's had enough and is like, all right, now it's time for the show to start.
Yes, back at it again for the Matrix three fellas, we're here, we're going to do this thing.
We're going to get to the Matrix four and I may have to if I haven't beat Vic, I might have to come back one more time in 2022 or two more times.
But I'd like to know how sick is everyone of hearing my voice on every single episode?
I think they're going to get one one off because what's what's next week?
Next week is Spider-Man, No Way Home.
Yeah, so I'm imagining Vic is going to try and peek his little head in there.
Oh, yeah, he's he's already confirmed that he's going to be with us next week.
Maybe I'll be waiting in the wings this time, Vic, maybe that dude, me and Vic talked about that.
And I'm like, I just feel like I've created a paranoia between you two.
By the way, how crazy would it be if like secretly behind the scenes, I really did hate that guy.
And I was just like, God dang, dude, I'm so glad that you just let me and you do it.
Like, I can't believe that you would even consider letting Vic on the show.
What a hell of an actor.
And then he shows up and like, wow, I knew you were there.
He told me he emailed me, Caleb, he told me that was a joke.
Joking.
I think it would have been really hard to mask your genuine reaction to him coming on.
I am so glad like that is one of the most fun things that I've done on any podcast is being shocked by someone.
It is very rare as an adult, you get shocked anymore, I feel like.
But genuine shock.
That's great.
I'm just going to keep you guys on your toes now.
That's right, Vic, be on your best behavior, because I could be in the shadows at any moment.
Or maybe it'll be Brucker, you know, maybe he'll be the next one to jump out of the shadows at me and be like, I am mad, though.
You said a lot of mean things about me, DJ.
OK, I want to tell you a thing or two about the autopsy of you.
Well, we got a great episode for you guys this week.
In 4K spotlight, we got a new James Bond movie coming.
And I can already hear Elmi purchasing the steelbook.
I hope he pre-ordered it, because I don't think it's available anymore.
Dude, really?
There's no way that he wouldn't have.
I would be genuinely shocked if he didn't.
It's not on Best Buy's website anymore.
I was going to say, if anyone was going to pre-order it, if Elmi didn't get it, then this is his fault.
And I know he listens to the show, Elmi, it is your fault.
If you don't have it, you have no one to blame but you.
Can't blame your daughter.
Can't blame school.
This is your thing.
And then through the wall, we got two new trailers, one for Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which
we discussed a little bit last week, but unfortunately, we recorded one day earlier than the trailer
got released.
So close.
And then we got a new Star Wars game coming out.
So I'm going to talk about that a little bit.
And then for this week's headliner, we will be breaking down the third installation in
the Matrix movies, the Matrix Revolutions.
The third and almost final.
Matrix, Revelations, or Revolutions, or Round, the Round One.
It's all loop.
It's all just a snake eating itself.
That's the Matrix, everybody.
Hell yeah.
So without further ado, let's say we get into it, gentlemen.
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Yeah, yeah.
Hells yeah.
Okay, I've had his promo for a little while, but it was in a weird format so I couldn't
like play it.
So can I tell you something?
It was pitched down.
Like that was not quite Ben.
Like that was Ben, but a little more baritone.
I can tell.
I've heard Ben talk so much that I know his voice by heart.
And I was like, this sounds like he's just a little lower, a little down here.
Hello everybody.
My name is Benjamin Bullman from the Angry Dad Podcast.
That's exactly what I was thinking too.
I might have screwed up when I was converting it into an MP3.
Just play the wave, bro.
He sent me an M4A, whatever the hell that is.
I think sometimes too, like things just get lost in translation because I know I have
sent some screwy things that I'm like, what?
I just made an audio, I could hear it and I sent it.
Like, what is this?
Like, I don't know, man.
So I've been able to like, it'll sound better in the real one, but it's the one that gets
released.
So it's kind of weird that we're talking about it.
But I mean, listen, if you ask Ben real nice, he'll do one custom just for you.
Like Ben is one of the greatest people you will ever know.
Like the best thing you could do.
I'm talking to you, the all bros and you, the listener.
Go listen, go check out Ben.
He is such a great dude.
He's so cool.
He between you and him, you guys fill up my tick tock inbox.
Yeah, I had my buddy.
I'm like, listen, hey, I'm like for like, like a week or two, like just don't check
your tick tock at all.
And then just have your wife like video you as you open it to see how many I actually
send you because I feel like it's going to be over a hundred.
I mean, listen, if you want to get in on this, if you want to get in on this, you're more
than welcome.
I got, I will curate a feed just for you.
You guys don't want to see my tick tock.
Yeah.
By the way, nothing makes me want to see it more than you being like, I don't want to
see that.
I don't care what it is.
It could be all about like how to organize your books, but I want to see it now.
No, it's about how to organize your slip covers, you know, whatever, give it to me.
How do you store your slip covers off the book?
I got to know.
Yeah.
God, that reminds me of a stupid video I made in college about when we had to do like a
how how to video and I did like a how to pick out the perfect slip cover.
I remember that video.
Yeah.
It's like Jonathan.
It's not that hard.
I didn't make a how to video with this.
That's why it's good.
And now you must recreate that.
It's very complicated.
You got to have a keen eye.
Dude, you need to recreate that for the all bros.
Tick tock.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Speaking of Mr. One video, shut up, shut up.
I know, I know I'm really bad about it.
I know I need to get back on that.
Hey, I'll tell you what.
When you're out here, we'll film some tech talks.
Deal.
Oh, geez.
Hey, you're committed to this just as much as I am.
There's not inverted filters.
There's going to be glow ups.
It's going to be great.
Oh, anyway, let's get into 4k spotlight before we get go down too far of a rabbit hole.
Yeah, I don't want to get us too off track because I am actually very like I've been
excited to talk about all these movies, but I am like really stoked to talk about this
quote unquote final one.
Oh, absolutely.
So yeah, first off in a diary, say first off.
I don't know.
Anyway.
Wait, where are we?
We are at 4k spotlight, sir.
Did I already say what it was, the James Bond steelbook?
We were talking about how Jason Almi is a frickin chump if he didn't preorder it.
And sorry, that's how far.
Listen, that's what you get.
That's why people need a break from my voice because I just get people so off track.
They don't know what they've said.
No, that's just my that's just my garbage memory.
If it's not like directly in front of me, like I had.
Like this is just another total side note.
I was I brought in like my tape measure, a drill and just like a different couple other
things to work on something inside.
Put them on my desk because I was just like, OK, I'm going to take these back out to the
shed tomorrow.
Went out to the shed today.
And guess what?
I forgot all your stuff.
All I was looking for for like 10 minutes.
I'm like, I swear I put them away.
And then I remembered like, oh, wait, like I had those out.
And so I came back inside, grabbed them, went back outside, but then realized I forgot a
sheet of paper with all my plans for what I was building.
And so I had to run back inside, grab that, come back outside.
And then I realized I dropped my pencil while I was coming inside.
Listen, there you are, anyone who has been in any kind of construction job ever knows
your pain, OK, because we have all been to the thing where you're working out back and
you're like, oh, I need this.
And then you walk out to the truck and you just look at the truck and like put your hands
on your hips and you're like, I came out here for something.
I know it.
I squint hard enough.
I'm going to remember what it was to.
And you never do.
You always just end up walking back and going, God dang it.
Now I wasted 15 minutes walking back and forth and standing.
Yeah, that's just what it is.
Yeah, so it's not all your fault.
So James Bond, am I right?
That guy, he's a real he's got a bunch of gadgets.
He's always getting into high jinx.
Some say that one day it might be too close of a day to die.
Or what's the last one called?
No time to die.
They might not have any time to die or maybe he will.
Hmm.
Done.
Eyebrows way up.
All right, Rose, tell us a little bit about this.
I think I gave a pretty good synopsis of the movie, but go ahead.
So with no time to die, we're getting like, holy shit, three exclusives here.
So you're getting just a regular Blu-ray and a 4k release along with a Best Buy exclusive
steelbook, which I lied.
It's still on the website, but it says coming soon.
So in a way, the pre-orders kind of sold out, but it should come back into stock like right
on release date.
But usually when that happens, you kind of have to jump on it fast.
Jason.
Yeah, Jason.
But not only that, they have a Target exclusive that comes with a mini, I think it's like
a 52 page gallery book.
I think that's what it is.
Yeah, 52 page mini book.
And then we're also getting a Walmart exclusive.
And that's kind of like shocking because we never get Walmart exclusives anymore.
So this is like a big deal, guys.
Where the hell is it?
It was right here.
It's only at Walmart.
That's all you guys are going to hear.
There it is, you son of a bitch.
And then with the Walmart exclusive, you get different cover art from the regular Blu-ray
release as well as an exclusive, I don't know how to pronounce the bad guy's name, Safin
Mask Keychain.
His name is Seraph and he's a good guy.
Oh, that's the Matrix.
What?
Oh.
Oh, and also the Target exclusive is also different artwork as well.
Which one do you prefer?
I'm kind of at a crossroads here because I never got any of the other Daniel Craig Bond
movie steelbooks.
So if I want to get No Time to Die on steelbook, I have to buy all the other ones, I feel,
to have a complete collection, even though I just have the regular box set of the Daniel
Craig Bond movie.
So I don't know what to do.
I mean, are you a fan like that?
Like are you a real big Bond head or do you just like I have never seen a Bond movie in
my life?
Not even wait.
So you own the box set of the Daniel Craig ones and you've never seen them?
Welcome to my life of being roses, bro.
Like, hey, you're like me movies out of it.
So shut up.
Okay, chill.
I'm just kidding.
No, I'm talking about like what you constantly seem to do where you buy a movie and you're
like, oh yeah, I haven't really like opened it yet.
I haven't seen it.
I'm like, dude, like what?
And then with movies that I know you hate, Mr. Fan for stick, you'll buy multiples of.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's me.
I have no excuse.
He's not wrong.
I mean, listen, you can get a primer for it because what is it?
Jason, he has the show that he does with Chris.
It used to be called like James Bonding or something, but now it's called, by the way,
it makes me so mad that there is a podcast called James Bonding all about watching all
the James Bond movies and now no one else can have it.
Like it wasn't Jason that used it.
It was somebody else, but it makes me so mad that like it's such a good title and only
one person gets to use it.
But Almi, he has one that he does him and Chris Wetzke are going through all of the
Craig Bond movies.
I'm telling you, you should listen to those episodes and then you should watch the movies
because I'm not a big fan.
Like I like Casino Royale and that's pretty much it.
Like I feel like they kind of go downhill from there.
But you know, I don't have great opinions on movies, so I think you should watch them.
All right, moving on.
I gave the Matrix to a hundred on my personal grade.
Anyway, go ahead.
Moving on over to through the wall.
Let's talk about the game first just because there's not much to say, really.
Not a whole lot, but I think there's enough, but anyway, so Star Wars is getting a new
video game and called Star Wars Eclipse.
Does it say when it's coming out?
Because I read it's going to be a couple of years still, or it's a couple of years out
still.
But I know they had that reveal trailer that came out not too long ago that I mean, listen,
at some point you just have to realize that everything's a cut scene and that's what you're
looking at.
But they they're able to make gameplay at least look as smooth as cut scenes now, which
I think was kind of example with Fallen Order.
But this that trailer looked amazing.
Oh, yeah.
It doesn't have an at least the website I'm on doesn't, which is the developers website
website being released by Quantic Dream.
But they yeah, it's in early development and it doesn't seem like they have a release date
for it yet.
Yeah, I think the best that I got was like years off.
But you got your Darth Maul's in there.
You got your C3 POs.
You got your you got your moons that's being eclipsed.
It's got everything.
Did you watch it just now, Rose?
Or did you were you able to?
No, I was able to.
I straight up thought that the beginning I thought that was going to be a lightsaber that
was going to turn on.
I did not expect that to turn into like a whole drum thing.
Dude, I did too.
I'm like, oh, that's a bitch and lightsaber and then just drum.
I mean, because really the last Star Wars game to come out was Fallen Order, right?
Am I correct in saying that?
That sounds right.
Well, at least like no squadrons squad.
Yeah, but that was just a flight simulator for Star Wars.
That doesn't count.
Then yeah, Fallen Order was the most recent like story based game because I almost bought
squadrons and then I saw what it was and I was like, yeah, the flying parts are the parts
I hate the most.
So pass.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
So they do have a little description of what this game is going to be.
They said it's going to be a branching action adventure game.
It's going to put you in the roles of multiple playable characters.
What does that mean?
A branching action adventure?
So it's the that means like decisions that you make in game will affect the outcome.
Got your telltale action in there.
A little bit.
So they said that, where's it explain it?
Oh, so you can get like a good and a bad ending.
Kinda yeah.
So it says that the decisions you make will have dramatic repercussions on your journey.
Alton, your alter your relationships, the locations you visit, the battles you fight
and even the fate of the characters themselves.
I mean, that sounds cool, but I feel like recently like video games have been doing
this thing where they sound awesome and do not deliver like even a little bit.
Like we have been having this thing happening recently in video games that I do not like,
which is things that are being put out way, way, way, way, way, way, way too early to
the point to where they're like bugged into oblivion.
Like that fricking I was on board like I had the preorder in my cart for Grand Theft Auto
the Grand Theft Auto trilogy because I was such a like a good deal.
And that thing is terrible.
I've heard that the new battlefield is like bugged out to death and it's just a terrible
game that nobody likes.
I don't know, man.
Like there's I want this game to be good.
I have no reason to believe that it wouldn't be good, but I would really I wouldn't be
surprised.
I will.
I'm to the point now to where I'm not pre ordering any game and I won't buy it until it's been
out for at least two or three months just as just for the bugs that are definitely going
to be in it to start to be patched out because I'm not buying for a game.
I'm not buying a game that needs to be patched day one.
Yeah.
Like what what world do we live in where releasing unfinished games is a is a thing like that's
so it started.
It's funny because like the thing that it wasn't an unfinished thing, but the thing
that started disillusioning me with stuff like that was I preordered Red Dead Redemption
to a year before it came out.
And what was it like six months or eight months into that they were going they were pushing
it back like another six months.
And my reaction to that was undue preorder.
Like I am not doing this.
I am not giving you I'm not giving you guaranteed money for a game.
You're not even guaranteeing me granted Red Dead Redemption 2 is a different story than
like Grand Theft Auto that re release.
But the you know the re release of the trilogy that is but I don't know I don't know when
the beginning of it was.
But I know preorders have I think ruined a lot of game release timetables.
They're like look how many preorders we can get.
We got to get this thing out now even though it's for sure not ready.
What was the one that Keanu Reeves game that came out that was broken all to hell.
Cyberpunk.
Yes.
That one there was another one.
I'm sure if you just googled like broken games in the last 10 years you would get you would
have so many that you forgot about even like how about when all those Assassin's Creed
games were coming out and it was just like all you could see was like teeth and a cowl
and they're like yes just teeth and eyeballs because like none of the none of like the
actual skins are populating.
I don't know man.
It's I don't know.
So Star Wars Eclipse.
Let's check it out.
I I do hope that this is a like with all games that I buy.
I hope it's a single player game because single player games just seem to work better.
I think it's the ones like that you can go online that seem to be jacked up all the time.
Yeah.
And like even with like I know some of the games that are like broken.
Even with like I know fall in order like it did have stuff that needed to be patched like
there was some brokenness to it but it didn't seem to be as egregious.
Yeah but there's been tons of games that I've been pretty disappointed with.
I mean hell just go back to our Avengers.
Our Marvel's Avengers breakdown like we freaking ripped that game to shreds.
But like no joke day one like so when I pre-ordered the game or when everyone pre-ordered the
game you get like a day one exclusive costume pack and they have like a World War Two era
Captain America costume which looks pretty sick now that it works.
But the difference between that costume and any other costume is he's wearing goggles.
And so in the loading screen and even like in the middle of the game his his eye would like
would like twitch like crazy.
But like and this was on the loading screen too so it would like twitch and like be super weird.
But then it would like start to come out of his goggles and start flying like super far
forward and then just snap back into his head.
Yeah that Avengers game I feel so bad like I want that game to be so much better for you guys
because I don't know if it was you guys or somebody that I saw talking about the release
of Spider-Man was you guys talking about that and how it was just terrible like it was just the worst.
Because it was just there was nothing new to it it was just like it's Spider-Man walking around
just being an Avenger just super normal.
I have an Xbox so I didn't get the Spider-Man update or whatever.
I haven't even played I haven't played Black Panther or Spider-Man.
It's because it's like it there's no point in going back to the game.
Like there's no news I mean okay with Kate Bishop and Hawkeye I mean I guess but
like they kind of have a little bit of a connection to the game.
I guess but like they kind of have like an additional story but
I don't know it's just like so hard to find a reason.
Black Panther did like they actually did do a whole new story for him but yeah Spider-Man they
really didn't do anything extra for him.
Well good because that would have sucked for Xbox players to just not get a story.
Yeah fair.
Oh listen whatever you guys don't get you guys didn't get that sweet sweet God of War story
over there on Xbox so why don't you just hush your mouth over there Caleb.
Dude I'm so pissed off with like all these console exclusive games.
I wish we were past that I really do like I understand that there are your Halos and your
Super Mario Brothers and I don't really know what is Sony's claim to fame Crash Bandicoot
like what is their thing Sly Cooper.
I want to say I was gonna say Ratchet and Clank but I don't I don't think it's that.
Ratchet and Clank is really the closest one I think like honestly I would say it is God of War
is but like I don't God of War I feel like didn't come around until PlayStation 2.
I don't think there was a God of War game on regular PlayStation 2.
Like I don't think there was a God of War game on regular PlayStation but I know Ratchet and Clank
and Crash Bandicoot have been around they were some day wonders over there on PlayStation.
So if I was going to think of like a exclusive like mascot franchise like it would be one of
those two but everything else even including God of War like Kratos doesn't none I don't know it's
I get it but I hate it.
Yeah I mean they I don't think PlayStation has like one single claim to fame but.
Who can help us my friend Google go ahead sorry.
Yeah I don't think PlayStation has like their one claim to fame but I think Xbox
same thing like the biggest one was Halo and.
Wait can you see this.
The hell's Polygon man when I typed in PlayStation mascot that's what came up Polygon man.
That's terrifying.
That is terrifying that looks like if anyone's seeing lawnmower man it looks like some lawnmower
man level graphics.
Here's one from 2021 has PlayStation finally found a mascot like there is no PlayStation mascot.
I guess maybe it would be Sonic well no there's still Nintendo really kind of owns the whole Sega
thing so no it's no I don't know I'm sorry I brought us down this road.
Oh you're good but yeah the whole console thing is just it's such bullshit because I love.
Like the the Skyrim games but Microsoft just bought out Bethesda so you know damn well that the next
Skyrim game is going to be an Xbox exclusive game so I have to play that but then they have like all
these super cool games coming to PlayStation 5 and so now it's like I feel like I have to choose
between like a Nintendo and a PlayStation 5.
And so now it's like I feel like I have to choose between like an Xbox Series X and a freaking
PlayStation 5 and I'm I hate that I'm in the middle because I want to get both.
But here's the thing actually Skyrim.
Skyrim is is suffering from and people must notice this Skyrim is for sure suffering from
the Grand Theft Auto Online syndrome of like this game there is this game is too good like
it's too good people still play it on a for real regular basis like I it just went on sale recently
for the Switch and I was like I should buy it I know I own it on three consoles already but why
not a fourth.
Like it's a great game like if they make another Skyrim or another Elder Scrolls game whatever it
is bless their little hearts because there's like it's I couldn't imagine what a better game than
that looks like and it's the same thing with like Grand Theft Auto like what does a better than
Grand Theft Auto 5 game look like I couldn't even fathom it now that there aren't people out there
like no one would have thought Grand Theft Auto 5 would be a thing or Skyrim would be a thing but
I don't think anyone that created those games thought they would be lasting this long through
three consoles and like you know whatever how many how many years have those games been out
over a decade like ridiculous that shouldn't be it shouldn't be that's not a thing.
If I'm not mistaken Skyrim came out in 2006.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Five came out in 2013.
When was Skyrim released? Oh 2011 still though.
2011.
It says November it says initial release date November 11th 2011.
Elder Scrolls Oblivion came out in 2006.
Okay that's probably what I'm thinking of then.
Because I know Oblivion people swear by that game too even still to this day.
Yeah what yeah dude I can't imagine a game having more longevity
than Skyrim it just doesn't I mean it for sure will happen but
I don't know if I'll be playing video games still when it does.
Dude I.
By that I mean I'll be dead.
I bought a used copy of Elder Scrolls 5 that I used to death and it came with like
with like an exclusive map and I still have that map somewhere but.
By the way oh go ahead like your daughter your daughter is going to play Skyrim
like a legit like oh this is a PlayStation 6 copy of Skyrim and she will have it.
Yeah yeah so Star Wars Eclipse guys am I right.
Coming 2025.
Coming maybe never.
Yeah we'll see.
At this point it feels like we'll get this before Lego Star Wars the Skywalker saga for.
Oh my gosh when is that.
Getting pushed back.
Dude I'm so pumped for that game I'm ready for it to come out same.
So wait is this is this Star Wars.
This is the Skywalker saga is it not just a re-release of the games that have already existed.
Well that and it's adding the last Jedi and the rise of Skywalker.
Oh you know what's funny is those games are going to be better than the movies.
Hey it's the truth.
True that I'm offended.
I will listen I'm just going to give you the rise of Skywalker there's no way that the Lego
version of that is not going to be better than what we got.
That I'm just kidding.
So if wait if.
Is the the Skywalker saga going to be all nine episodes.
Yes.
And because they did episode four five and six in like the classic all types of classic Lego
version are is that the version that we're going to get are we getting no upgrade.
They remastered all of it.
So three and episodes four through six.
Dude I'm so ready I'm so ready for this game.
Wait do you guys have price points on this like what is that.
What is the cost on that.
I think it's.
I think it's not bad for what nine games basically.
Yep yes 60 bucks.
Oh my gosh.
Dude and could you imagine what the open world hub is going to look like.
But here's the thing like again like even though Lego I don't think has ever suffered from this
like you still got to wonder are they going to have day one patches and bugs that are going
to need to be worked out because I don't know.
I just don't know.
I hope not but I feel like by the way I also feel like they've had
pre-orders for the Skywalker Lego Skywalker saga for years now.
True they pushed it that dude comes out on my birthday next year.
Holy shit.
Next year.
God damn.
Holy crap.
Okay dude I have to I have to pay an extra 10.
Wait no never mind sorry I forgot I was not signed in Amazon.
I'm like wait I have to pay an extra ten dollars just to get this game.
That's some bullshit but never mind.
That's messed up.
Like honestly there's no point in pre-ordering the steel book right now because yeah we're
not getting it for another goddamn year.
If we actually do get it then we'll see.
Geez.
That's insane just wait it's we're going to get to like oh what what is it we're going to get to
like December 15th and then they're going to be like yeah pushing it again.
Bro an announcement trailer premiered at the E3 at E3 2019.
Holy shit.
2019.
What the hell.
I'm just saying if this game has needs one patch I am going to throw that game into the ocean.
I have high hopes because it's Lego.
Lego has never disappointed me.
But you know who has Disney.
It's true.
Yeah fair.
So good luck everybody.
All right since we got completely off topic with that one.
Star Wars eclipse better be freaking good and yeah it's probably going to come out 2026.
I'm moving on to our next trailer we're going to be talking about Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
And so this came out the day after we recorded last week but holy shit was it so freaking epic.
This trailer was awesome and can I say to anyone who is listening to this video.
This trailer was awesome and can I say to anyone who is listening last week when I was like this movie is not worth its salt if he doesn't have a chili cheese dog and say something like way past cool.
And the first scene the very first scene that happens in that trailer is you see Sonics silhouetted back with a chili cheese dog in his hand.
And I was like yep this movie is for me they made this one just for me.
Dude I wasn't sure how Idris Elba's voice was going to sound coming out of Knuckles but holy shit does it work.
Is this going to be the best video game movie ever?
It might.
Probably.
I would say like the only thing because since it's not necessarily like recreating a specific video game it's just a video game character.
Like I would say even though I was never like big in Pokemon what is it Detective Pikachu.
Like I would say in my eyes that was number one up until maybe now.
That's fair.
That was a good one.
Yeah they just they freaking killed it with this franchise.
It looks so good.
I have not been excited for a video game movie.
I wasn't excited for the first one of this even when they made them look more like Sonic.
But this one is actually going to has inspired me to go back and watch the first movie so that I can watch and enjoy this one.
Hell yeah.
And they show full on Tails and Tails out there sound like a little kid.
I'm like oh Tails you can't get hurt fly your airplane buddy.
Well they got the original voice for Tails.
Really?
Yeah the person who's been voicing Tails in every video game for the past ever.
That's amazing.
Yeah so they got her to join Ben Schwartz and yeah Eat Your Selva.
Dude and I love I wasn't 100% sure how they were going to do like an accurate looking Robotnik.
But I think that even works too.
It looks amazing.
Jim Carrey is having a blast with this role when it shows.
This movie is going to be great.
I haven't even seen it yet but it's going to be epic.
The fact that they're keeping with how Knuckles was introduced as a villain too.
He's not just already on Sonic's side.
I think makes it even better.
Right?
I want to see.
I want like I hope that they explain this but I want answers as to where Knuckles has been.
Like did Robotnik travel to Sonic's original home world and just freaking power up an Echidna?
I mean that's what it kind of seems like right?
Because he was after that gem.
You see the big power gem.
Oh the Chaos Emerald.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Dude this guy.
And he does have that piece of Sonic's hair.
I'll forget about that.
I probably won't be particularly thrilled if they make Knuckles a clone of some sort.
Oh like they do a shadow?
Yeah.
Especially if they have plans to eventually do shadow.
I think that would just be kind of dumb to be like oh clone Knuckles up clone shadow.
But you never know maybe that's the thing.
Maybe much like you know in that foreign trailer for No Way Home you saw Lizard Man being like huh?
I got punched by something.
Maybe Shadow was in this movie the whole time but they just digitally removed him.
I hope we get a tease for Shadow.
I think that'd be so cool.
Shadow is my favorite character.
They could possibly, I mean listen it's not out of the realm that they could team up against Shadow in this movie.
Oh that is true. I didn't even think about that.
I'm just afraid if they do that it's going to become too bloated.
Maybe but I don't know.
I don't know. Listen if the movie is as good as the trailer then it's going to be great.
Fair enough.
I'm so excited.
I am kind of hoping that they cut James Marston's rollback a little bit.
How dare you? He is clearly the Uncle Ben of this.
He's quite obviously going to die.
He has his moment with Sonic in the boat where he's like great power, great responsibility or whatever.
And he's for sure going to die.
I guarantee that dude's dead in this movie.
Oh shit.
I think we just found another episode that you're going to be joining us on.
Eat your heart out Vic.
I don't have to invite myself anymore. I just get invited.
Wait, Caleb did you invite Vic on next week's or did he just say hey I'm joining you guys whether you like it or not?
Nepotism.
Well he asked, well first off he asked if we were going to be breaking down No Way Home and I was just like yeah duh.
And he's like cool what day? And I'm like I told him the day.
Wednesday.
I'll be there.
So he did invite himself.
Pretty much yeah.
So my eyes are correct.
We accept anyone who wants to invite themselves on our show.
Yeah where the heck has Almi been? Like Almi's supposed to be like breaking down Christmas movies with you or something this time of year.
Oh, Holiday in Handcuffs.
We're going to be on or talk about No Time to Die.
So we'll have to get him on after all this.
I'm going to need to binge watch those movies then.
I don't know if I envy you or I'm taking pity on your soul.
How many James Bond movies are there? Like five, six?
It's four or five now I think right? Of the Daniel Craig ones you mean?
I was going to say we're just talking about Daniel Craig right?
Because there's Casino Royale, there's Quantum of Solace, there's the other one with Adele.
There's Skyfall.
Skyfall.
Spectre.
And then this one right?
Yeah so five.
Yeah so maybe down the line we're going to have a five part series with Jason Almi.
And if you guys think that these episodes were long, just wait.
If you think the Matrix trilogy took a long time, bro.
Broceph. Broham.
It's going to get real on those Bond ones.
It's going to be insane.
I'll hit them up about like no time to die and then I'll be like oh well, can't go out of order.
Yeah, gotta do it.
No if he wants to break them all down we'll make it happen.
But anyway.
Any other final thoughts on the Sonic trailer?
Amazing.
Yeah, that's really the only word.
It's just amazing.
Yeah, same here.
10 out of 10 want to see.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
I was going to say 10 out of 10.
Where are you sitting at, Rose?
I'd probably say a 9 just because I'm kind of scared that Tails is going to get overshadowed a little bit.
Get it shadowed.
I meant to do that.
So I think that that's just what this trailer has me worried about.
So that's why I'm like just a little below.
I don't know that he did have like a grand entrance.
You know what I mean?
Like you got to see him step through the portal and you knew you saw those goofy shoes and you were like, that's Mr. Prower.
I know it is.
I know the way I mean that just didn't like to me like really like be like, oh my God, sales because we saw that at the end of the first one.
Spoiler alert to the guy who never saw it.
I'm just kidding.
Clearly, clearly he was going to show up.
Okay, I don't think that Tails is going to necessarily be overshadowed with this one just because we haven't seen like if Tails was in the in the first one, like a big part of the first one, I'd probably say yes.
That's probably what would happen.
But seeing as we've never seen him in action before, I think they're going to make him kind of a big staple.
Like if anyone's going to get overshadowed, I think it's going to be Sonic.
It's going to be really sad.
Yeah, I mean, I, they don't have too many characters to like focus on or like take care of.
So I have high hopes that they'll be able to manage them pretty well.
Fair enough.
Sorry, I'm still sticking with the nine.
I'm sorry, guys.
That's fair.
All right.
Well, with that, let's say we get into this week's headliner.
Yeah, let's do it.
All righty, this week's headliner, we will be breaking down the third Matrix movie, The Matrix Revolutions.
If you are new to our.
Sorry.
You all right.
I just I did not mean to, but I hit the mic so hard with my hand.
Sorry, guys.
All right.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros and untrained eye letter grade.
The eight categories that we score our story writing, acting, character development, effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end of that.
Those numbers get magically added up, added together and spit out a schoolhouse letter grade for us to compare to all the other movies that we've broken down.
So without further ado, get ready for reading with Rose, everyone.
While Rose reads the entire synopsis for this movie.
So I think it goes without saying, spoiler alert ahead.
I'm going to warn you right now.
After I watched the second Matrix, I was reading over the plot summary and I even struggled.
Like, you know, they said the goddamn name, I struggled pronouncing it. So buckle up because I'm probably going to f this one up to.
All right.
Neil, I already know.
It's not like I said Neil.
My good friend Neil.
So rude. So rude.
Caleb, you can go to hell. You can go after yourself and kiss my ass.
There's so many paragraphs.
Give that give them a chance.
OK, it was the first word.
I mean, come on. Like, how much better can you get from that?
That's how Saati said it.
She said it all weird.
She was like, no.
All right.
Neil and Bane lie unconscious in the medical bay of the ship Hammer.
Inside the Matrix, Neil is trapped in a subway station named Mobile Avenue, a transition zone between the Matrix and the machine world.
He meets a family of programs, including a girl named Saati.
I think that's how they pronounce her name right?
OK.
The father tells Neil the subway is controlled by the train man, a program loyal to.
God, I'm going to f this up so bad.
The Mirovenegi.
Mirovenegian. Did you even watch the movie?
I did. That's a hard word.
But they said Mirovenegian.
I feel like they said it more in the in the in this one than they did the second one.
I was very bad at English, OK?
The Mirovenegian. When Neil tries to board a train with the family, the train man refuses and overpowers him.
Seraph contacts Morpheus and Trinity on behalf of the Oracle, who informs them of Neil's confinement.
Seraph, Morpheus and Trinity enter Club Hell, where they confront the God damn it.
Say it one more time. Mirovenegian.
Mirovenegian and force him to release Neil.
Troubled by visions of the of the machine city, Neil visits the Oracle, who reveals that Smith intends to destroy both the Matrix and the real world.
She tells him that everything that has a beginning has an end.
After Neil leaves, a large group of Smith's assimilates Sati and Seraph.
Seraph. God, I'm sorry.
Seraph, you said it first. You said it right first.
I did. Oh, my God.
Jesus, Jonathan, you're doing that.
Listen to me. I know.
I have to stop everything right now.
Everyone. He's doing it on purpose.
Like he keeps winking at the camera.
He's doing this on purpose.
He's looking at us like, see, Seraph.
I know I already said Seraph, but.
You think he's faking it.
The Oracle does not resist assimilation and Smith gains the powers of.
My God, precondition.
No. Yes.
I was like, well, I thought that.
I will not help you.
In the real world, the crews of the Nebuchadnezzar and the Hammer find and reactivate Neobi's ship, the Logos.
They interrogate Bane, who says that he has no recollection of the earlier massacre.
As the captains plan their defense of Zion, Neo requests a ship to travel to the Machine City.
Motivated by her encounter with the Oracle, Neobi offers him the Logos.
Neo departs, accompanied by Trinity.
Bane, who has stowed away on the Logos, takes Trinity hostage.
Neo realizes that Bane has been assimilated by Smith and a fight ensues.
Bane burns Neo's eyes with a power cable, blinding him.
Neo discovers that he can still see machine source code in the real world and uses this ability to kill Bane.
Trinity pilots them to the Machine City.
Neobi and Morpheus rush towards Zion in the Hammer to aid the human defenses.
Zion's shipyard is overwhelmed by a horde of Sentinels and fatally wounded Captain Mephune
I'm sure I mispronounced that.
Instructs Kidd to open the gate for the Hammer, which he does with the aid of Zee.
When it arrives, it discharges its EMP, disabling all the Sentinels present, but also Zion's remaining defenses.
The humans are forced to retreat and wait for the next attack, thinking it will be their last stand.
The Logos is attacked by a wave of Machines outside of the Machine City.
To avoid the onslaught, they fly above them to open sky and then crash into a building, fatally wounding Trinity.
Neo enters the Machine City and encounters the leadership of the Machines in the form of the Deuce Ex Machina.
Don't use Ex Machina, you son of a gun.
Does you know Jason Almi is spinning in his grave right now.
Neo warns that Smith plans to conquer both the Matrix and the real world and offers to stop Smith in exchange for peace with Zion.
The Deuce Ex Machina agrees and the Sentinels shut down, stopping the attack on Zion.
The Machines plug Neo into the Matrix, whose population has now been entirely assimilated by Smith.
The Smith, with the Oracle's powers, steps forth, telling Neo that he has foreseen his victory against Neo.
After a protracted fight, Neo appears to concede defeat and allows himself to be assimilated.
Outside the Matrix, the Machines send a surge of energy into Neo's body, which inside the Matrix causes the Neo-Smith clone,
then all the other Smith clones to be destroyed, leaving the Oracle lying there.
The Sentinels withdraw from Zion, Morpheus and Niobe embrace, and Neo's lifeless body is carried away by the Machines.
The Matrix is rebooted and the Architect meets the Oracle in a park.
They agree that the peace will last as long as it can and that those humans who desire it will be offered the opportunity to leave the Matrix.
The Oracle tells Sadi, who created a beautiful sunset for Neo, that she thinks they will see Neo again.
Sarov asks the Oracle if she knew this would happen. She replies that she did not know, but she believed.
I take some umbrage with this description because I don't think that they I feel like they didn't send a surge through Neo.
I feel like Neo helped the Deus Ex Machina machine, whatever, to trick Smith into bringing himself back to the source.
That was the whole conceit, right? When you become an obsolete program, you have to go back to the source and be enveloped back into it.
To me, that was what was happening. Smith had no idea that he was jacked in at Machine City.
When he assimilated Neo, he said, oops, oopsie daisy, I just told you guys that I am in fact coming back because I am jacked straight into the source.
So I take umbrage.
This was a good conclusion to the Matrix story.
I would call it shockingly so.
Like it was such a good sequel to the second movie and finish to the trilogy that like it kind of covered for all the sins of the second movie, I feel like.
It did. It was so weird.
Because I had just such a sour taste in my mouth when it came to the second one. But this one, like these came out the same year.
Like what the hell? Yeah, it really did seem like two.
These were like I was finishing watching it today and I couldn't believe.
I couldn't believe it because I was like this.
The first movie kind of like dragged on or the first, the second movie kind of dragged.
I say the first, you know why? Because this almost seems like even though this is part two and three in a Matrix trilogy, like this seems like a separate thing.
Even a separate thing that eventually connects back to the first movie.
That makes sense. Like this doesn't seem like a sequel to the Matrix.
It seems like a Matrix movie that also happened that that gives you an end to the first Matrix movie.
Like I feel like if these movies weren't connected to that first movie in that way, that they would probably be more widely liked.
And I also think if what had happened, what we talked about before, listen, tell me if I'm wrong.
I feel like the first now, now having watched the two movies, I feel like the first movie could have been edited down to like 30, 45 minutes.
And you could take maybe like 10 or 15 minutes out of this movie and you could have mashed whatever amalgamation you came with from the second movie and then most of the third movie.
And you've got one pretty dope movie.
That's fair.
Because this movie, the whole movie was good, I think.
Like the whole movie seemed like relevant to like what we had just seen in The Matrix Reloaded.
It wrapped up this story in a weird roundabout way of Neo.
I don't know.
It was so weirdly better than I remember it even being.
Yeah, I will disagree with you on turning this into one like really good movie.
I think the first one as a whole was objectively pretty good.
But I think instead of this two and three being like two separate two hour movies, you could have made this one maybe almost three hour movie.
By the way, I said it wrong.
I said the first movie, but I meant the first of this sequel thing that happened.
Yeah, I did mean the second and third movie.
I'm sorry.
I thought I said it wrong, but I was like, I'm just going to keep talking and I'll get corrected eventually.
Yeah, no, the first movie stands on its own.
There's a good argument to make that we never even needed these two movies at all.
We could have just had The Matrix one and just had a really cool movie that we all remember.
But yeah, these last two movies for sure could have been one awesome three hour movie.
Yeah, for sure.
And I would have enjoyed the hell out of that a lot more than I enjoyed the second one because the second one was like a lot like it's weird to see because there was some bloat in this one.
OK, but not to the level that the second one had because I would say you could keep most of what was in this movie and just pick apart the second one and mash them together.
And that's that's your third movie or that's your whatever your sequel to The Matrix.
Yeah, I like getting into like our our scores.
I ended up giving the story an eighty eight just because it was.
And I feel like I can be talked up to a little bit higher.
But yeah, and it's just because.
I think story wise, I think the the war with the Sentinels kind of went a little long.
Well, listen, that whole that whole battle was kind of like, all right, like we saw what Zion looked like in the last movie.
And this is not it. Like what we saw was not where they were fighting. And why would the ships have why would the machines have come there and not where everyone lives?
Like they're like, let's go where all the all the alien mech suits are not to just where everybody lives and just decimate them there.
So I mean, listen, it's well, here's the weird thing about this movie is the weirdest part to me is that fight at all.
Because that whole any everything that happens in Zion is so crazy because if you really listen to what happens in the second movie, what the architect is saying, like this is futile either way.
Like they're going to die. That's a foregone conclusion.
And it's just like basically the machines putting on a show to be like, hey, you're just going to die tired, stupid, because there's so many of us that it's it's useless.
Like it because you see that first wave get knocked back and then you see them just be poured in like water.
Like just like when they come in in that second wave, it's so ridiculous that any of anyone is still trying to fight.
And you should just be kissing and hugging your loved ones and accepting the sweet release of death because you're not going to win.
You're just not. And we knew that.
By the way, we knew that we knew that because the machines had done it at least five times before.
So they were very good at it. So they know how to slaughter the humans that that the one put there a hundred years ago, because that's my understanding.
I was like, it's there's these this is all happening in like 100 year time frames or whatever.
So they just the machines had a hundred years.
Theoretically, the one would have been like, hey, you got about a hundred years to prepare for the machines to maybe make it and find you.
And the best they have was some wheelbarrow ammo mech suits.
So, I mean, listen, you can hear me still.
OK, sorry, something just went weird. Yeah. So I don't know what.
I don't know. I still gave the story a 90, even though they were like glaring.
I don't know if that's a whole or if it's just like this weird thing that we the audience are supposed to know that like what's happening is like there's no way they're going to win.
They're just not.
So I don't know. For other reasons, I gave I give it a 90 because it like this movie impossibly stuck the landing when there was no visibility.
Like it was snowing. The wind was sideways. Like everything was working against it.
It was the dead of night. There was no moon out.
And somehow they just just were like, and we have now entered the whatever. I don't know.
I don't know how pilots talk, but yeah, they did it. I don't know how they did it, but they did it.
Yeah. What do you think grows?
I mean, I definitely agree with you guys. This one is definitely better than the second one because I would relate the second one to like any like kind of trilogy chapter to where like the second one kind of feels like it's at a standstill, that it's really just filler leading up to the third one.
And like DJ said, they like do they do so much to try to finish up this story that it feels sometimes rushed in some parts, but I feel that they did the best they can. I think the Wachowskis actually did a really good job tying up all the loose ends with this story.
I am a little lower than you guys though.
I'm going to say I'm at an 85.
Still not bad.
Not bad at all. So that brings us to an 87.6.
Collectively.
Yeah.
Moving on over to writing, I felt the writing was significantly stronger in this one than it was in the first or the second.
Yeah, because it's like it doesn't seem like even though it says the Matrix, it seems like it's it's not really connected to that first movie like Neo's they're kinda agent Smith is they're kinda Morpheus especially in this movie is they're kinda and you're just like,
okay, like, hey, there's all the characters I remember. They're here to save the day and finish this thing out strong, I guess.
I think, overall, like I really liked some of the conversation, like, for me, my favorite like conversation was when Neo woke up in the train station.
And the conversation he was having with that family.
Dude. Oh, so good.
It was so good and how sad was it when you were like because I remember watching this in the theaters. And when that man was like, be don't be cruel we might be the last voices he ever hears and I was like, oh no, like, how is he going to get out of here.
He's not even like in the matrix proper. Like, how is this going to resolve itself.
Yeah, so I've never seen this one before. I thought I might have seen all three but I've never seen this one before. So when I was watching it this go around I'm like, why doesn't he just like run down the tracks.
And then he's like, why don't I just run down the tracks and oops.
Full Pac Man syndrome.
The best part about that was when he like came back, I said, oh shit and then he said shit.
I love that I think the, the,
how was it, the train.
What do they call him the train master. Oh, the train man, the train man.
Yeah, I loved how he's just like, this is an area of my creation here I am God and like, that's pretty dope man.
And then he freaking knocks out the one.
Yeah, no joke. You're out of here bro.
One thing I noticed, I'm like, if I was like that, that couple I'd be like, hey, can I get my back though.
By the way, I thought the same thing. I'm like, they closed the door but he's still got the bag out there.
But also what are these programs need with bags. I don't understand. Why isn't it just programmed into their pocket or something.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I liked how they handled the Oracle changing shells too because I know like I remember to like even at the time people were not a big fan of the lady that took over.
But I actually was reading over some trivia and actually they, the, the woman that played the Oracle originally and the one that took over for her.
They actually did like this Broadway show where they played sisters for like years apparently.
So they kind of were like close friends anyway. And I, I like that it was kind of like everyone kind of gave her a side eye of like huh.
And the people that she needed to explain it to, she explained it to in the way that the Oracle would.
And I don't know, like I like how they handled it because what I mean, what are you supposed to do?
You know what I mean? Like you don't expect when you film a movie back to back that one of your like integral players is going to die midstream.
So I think they did the best they they could with that and it worked out well.
Yeah, I think they handled that with a lot of grace. Yeah, I agree.
I'm glad they didn't like completely ignore it like they did with like the recasting of Hulk. Yeah.
Hey, can I tell you though, you know who I appreciated the most in this movie?
Locke, General Locke or whatever he was, the dude who was correct the whole time.
He's like, hey, it's like all you idiots out here believe in Morpheus and Neo.
Stop being stupid, you idiots like we need to do the thing.
I love that they kept him that character like they could have made him more sympathetic to Neo and Morpheus.
And they were like, nope. And I love it. I love that he hated those idiots to the end.
He's like, you're stupid. This is dumb. Everyone's wrong.
But me don't do this. It's bad. We're all going to die.
And we only live by luck because you know, for me, the sweetest part with him was when he was like, what are we going to do about the Docs?
What if they take the Docs and the guy is like, they already took the Docs and they're like, all right, go open gate three.
And then the hammer comes in there. It does exactly what they wanted it to.
And then he has the nerve to be like, look what you did. You ruined everything.
Now they're just going to be able to walk right in here.
And I was like, this guy was he not was he was wanting that to happen or was he not wanting that to happen?
So the so someone came to him when they were up in their little control tower or whatever.
And they were like they're like, we haven't confirmed on holographics or whatever it is.
It is the hammer. They're on their way here now.
Like they're coming towards gate three. They're going to be here in X number of minutes.
And he was like, well, they're screwed. Screw those guys.
They're idiots. They shouldn't have been out there because we can't let them in because the guy even said that was talking to Locke.
He's like, they could come in and shoot an EMP. And he was like, no, he's like, what is that going to do to the Docs?
And the guy is like, they already took the Docs.
And then that's when he's like, just open gate three and he tries to get a hold of gate three guy captain captain guy that looks like Boba Fett.
And he oh, my phone. Yeah.
Yeah. Gets a hold of him.
And then they go to open gate three.
He gets sliced into a million pieces, does a thing that this movie does a lot, which is by a lot, I mean, at least twice.
Someone takes way too long to die who should clearly already be dead just so they can get some exposition out.
And then a kid is like, finally, you remember me from the first movie, but check it out.
I have a purpose now. And he goes and opens gate three.
And it happens just in the nick of time, which, by the way, if you watch that moment, OK, the hammer shoots through that door like the door isn't all the way open.
It just like blasts its way through, clearly killing kid and Z like they were right there.
They were right there. They're clearly dead.
But then they hit the MP now they hit the MP. All the squiddies fall down. Everyone's like, hooray. And then Locke comes out there and is like, you rotten sons of bitches.
I can't believe you would do something like that. Of course. What does he say? He's like, of course you can't think five minutes in front of your face.
He's like, now that you've done this, EMP, all our defenses are down and this would be the time if I was the machines, I would come right through the front gate.
And then that's exactly what happens. It's like, hey, man, they did what you wanted to do, whether they know it or not.
So I don't know. I like I liked him like that was one of the things into me in this movie that was like the comedy they tried to make fell flat on its face with the unintentional comedy was just chef's kiss.
Perfect.
Like her because to be the comedy was that part. It was so food dying, whatever that dude's name was.
We're Boba Fett when he just had the cut up face. He took way, way, way too long to die, especially considering his face had been cut in half.
And then Trinity Trinity lived for so long with so many holes through her body just to get out all this exposition and then die with a kiss like, hey, lady, you were dead 10 minutes ago.
You got you got eviscerated by just machine to try this.
And now you're going to actually I was thinking that I would always follow you to the end and I believed in you. And you're the one, Neo. I love you.
Oh, God. I knew that. And you're like 10 minutes later, you're like, this broad is still talking. How was this possible?
Give me one last kiss and then dies immediately. That was the only thing that I felt was weird about the pacing was that scene of her dying.
OK, yes, it took way too long. But the fact that it took a hundred years for her to die and they spent that long on Neo crying about it.
Like he was like, oh, God. And then it just switches to the next scene. And I'm like, for real, like he can't even mourn a little bit.
So I don't know. That was that was a it was this weird comedy thing that was happening that I enjoyed. But for sure, that is not what they meant.
It kind of gave me end of Deadpool 2 vibes.
Fair.
Wait, what did I write? I wrote something specifically about this. So it took some Trinity took death like a champ. And that's what I put right at the beginning. OK, right.
When she initially died, I was like, God dang, dude, like she is fixing to die. This is going to be nuts.
Ten minutes later. Also, she died for a long time. That's what I wrote.
By the way, I don't know if this is a writing thing either. But another funny thing that I thought was after they came back, after the people in the hammer came back and they had to go before the council and locked in and have time for that.
He's like, I'm sorry, I don't have time to come before the council with you, but I got my remember.
And so they go to the council, which the council is only three of them. And they're basically just like in a room like it looks like a broom closet.
And this is like this is by the way, this scene happens after like a second after you see this second wave of squiddies coming through.
And they're just like, we heard you gave a ship away to Neo and his girlfriend. What's up with that?
Like, hey, you guys have bigger fish to fry right now. Like, how about you? Who cares about this? And we move on to trying not to die from all the machines that are clearly about to kill us all.
Because it was weird because if you know, it seems like a pickup shot or something because if you watch that scene, it literally looks like it's happening in a broom closet.
And then they talked to the council a few like a few minutes later, a lot goes into talk to the council with Morpheus.
But they're back in that big room again. And it's like, all right. So did they think after the fact they were like, maybe they should get in trouble for given.
Maybe we should remind people that Neo and Trinity took a ship.
Yeah, I thought that was super weird.
Like they could have just done a better job at going back and forth between Trinity and Neo or between the like what Morpheus Morpheus is situation and Trinity and Neo's.
I still, by the way, gave writing a 90 on this because again, like everything, everything that led to the end of this movie, which, you know,
again, super weird because like you feel like you saw Smith in this movie, but you didn't like really the most of the Smith talking came from Bain,
which, by the way, how crazy is this? The Bain thing that happened is completely separate from the Matrix.
Like the Smith and the Matrix have no idea about what happened in the real world.
Like that was just its own like that Smith just went into the real world, had his own enclosed little story.
It began, it ended, and that was it. Like none of them know about that, which is awesome to me.
Like that's kind of really cool that he did that. Like he just sent out this like personality grenade into the real world and was just like, I don't know what's going to happen.
Hopefully he kills everybody. Good luck.
Dude, I thought that whole concept was super cool. Like that's one of the things that got me really thinking after it.
Like I was like laying in bed and I was just like, wait, is he like still connected to everything?
Like, or just is he just kind of his own entity at that point?
The way I understood it, like just from watching the movie, he's his own entity.
And to me, he actually like without saying it was an explanation to why Neo could kind of like see the code of things that came from the machine world,
because he was since he was the what is it? The remainder of the anomaly.
So he was from day one, like from the moment he was put into that pod, like he had code in him.
So he was part of that machine world, whether he realized it or not.
So to me, that kind of explains away the reason why he could see the code and see saw it in gold or whatever, because, you know, he wasn't seeing it.
He wasn't seeing it through the filter of being jacked into the matrix. He was seeing it like, I guess, unfiltered.
I don't I don't know. But yeah, it was this was a such a good movie.
It was so much better than the second one. It's so weird.
Like it's weirdly better than the second one. It doesn't make sense.
Yeah. Confusing as hell. Sorry, please.
Are you good? So, no, I've just I mean, maybe Caleb can answer this, too.
I have a question about Matrix four. I don't know if either of you could answer this.
I have a significant number of questions about it, too. So it's coming out this December.
So just because I hadn't seen the third one yet when they were releasing all the trailers for Matrix four, I was like confused.
I think it was the first trailer when Trinity is to Neo. Do we know each other?
I'm like, well, yeah, you guys do. You guys went through the matrix and everything together.
And then in this one, it turns out they actually both die. So I'm like kind of confused.
Like, have they like at all showcased how they so I'm going to just say we don't like you don't see Neo die.
Like they even say in that synopsis, his lifeless body, but like nothing says that he dies.
And one thing that I will say that I thought was pretty cool that the Wachowskis did is if you look,
like the last scene that you see of Neo, when it shows that like machine world like gold code and all that stuff,
if you look at how the light is coming off of him, they made it in the shape of like this specific lotus flower.
I can't remember. Maybe it's just the lotus. But it's I think it's some specific lotus flower that signifies reincarnation or rebirth.
So this is basically like a way of not saying that like he is about to be reinserted into the matrix,
whether it's, you know, as just the anomaly code or whether it's as you know, Thomas Anderson,
like the implication of that is that to me anyway, is that he's not dead. That's how I that's how I choose to understand it.
I don't know if that's necessarily true, but to me that that's kind of what I don't know.
Well, because here's the other thing, too. There's that Matrix online game that is technically Canon.
And like I know part of that was like people were fighting for they wanted Neo's body and the machine world wouldn't give it to them.
And that's part of the reason to why Laurence Fishburne isn't going to be in this Matrix is because he was canonically killed in that game.
So it's real stupid, especially considering that there is a Morpheus in this movie.
Spoiler alert. So but it's not Laurence Fishburne.
So I I'm interested to see how they're going to do that if he's going to be like the new Oracle type deal,
at least in the sense that like he'll get a new shell.
But that doesn't make sense because he's just a normal guy.
So I don't know why they would give him a new shell.
So I don't know. OK, it's it's it's this weird thing of like it doesn't make sense.
It at least makes sense that they did it that way, like where they had canon stuff happening in video games back when they were like,
there's probably never going to be another movie.
But it makes you you're like, well, that kind of thing only happens once and then cut to Fortnight.
And then is that the Emperor? So it's like
like it's this lesson that we can't learn about, like, by the way, like that is one thing I think Disney did great.
They were just like, listen, I know there's a lot of backstory that goes along with this whole Star War,
but we're going to wipe that away from existence and we're going to start again, which, you know,
I know it made a lot of people mad, but I think that it gives you the room to not have because what was it?
I was just heard the other day that if we were going to go by all the stuff that was canon,
Chewbacca technically would have died off screen because he died and so like some novelization,
you know, that that is was at one point supposedly canon.
So like I think there is I mean, it's obviously too late for the Matrix four,
but I think there is room to say like, I know this was canon, but we're going to make a new canon now
because Lawrence Fishburne, especially in this movie, like I know this is more of an acting thing,
but like Lawrence Fishburne, he did really well at being a dissolutioned zealot person.
Like he really seemed super humbled in this movie.
Like he went from being like, I'm going to go into the Matrix and find the one to be in.
Like, I don't know anything. I wish I did. I thought I knew a lot and I don't know nothing.
Sorry, I know that was a lot of words.
But no, thank you for clearing that up about the online game. I had no idea that was the thing.
Yeah, it's funky.
One of my favorite lines from this.
And I was actually going to be at a 90 like overall, except for this line or just the conversation.
And it was so dumb because it was the early conversation with the programs at the train station.
And the way that Neil was asking like why they care about their program child daughter.
Yeah. Yeah. And he's just like kind of alluding to the fact like not saying it, but like asking like,
oh, do you love your love this? And the guy just like because machines aren't like known for love and saying like,
what is love? But it's just a word.
But what's important about it is the connection that we we assign to it.
I'm just like, that's so great.
That's like the that Wanda vision.
The what is what is grief, but love persevering and like.
By the way, I can add a layer of depth for you to the mobile mobile avenue that they were at mobile.
A anagram for that is limbo. So there you go.
You're welcome. He was in limbo.
By the way, another cool thing I thought about the writing that I didn't get until this time around was that the like they actually they tied.
I might actually score this higher because of what I'm about to say that and where he face it,
where he jacks in through the the sword through the machine city and is talking to Smith.
Basically, that whole end thing was Smith where they go full anime fight, which I've never been anime guy.
But, dude, that was if all anime fights were like that, I would watch them all.
But everything that he was saying to Smith and everything that Smith was saying to him was like so tied everything back to the beginning
because he he Smith takes over the Oracle and now he's able to see the future and the thing happens that she says in the first one.
You can't see past the decisions you don't understand.
And he's like he says it. Smith says he's like I've foreseen it.
I've beat you. I'm just here to do what has already been, you know, foreseen by me.
And he does it. He has the fight and it even happens.
And he's just like when it's happening, he's like I stand here and I say this and then you're dead.
And he's like and he gets up and it's crazy.
And then like you I don't know, I since I've seen this movie so many times, I realized what was going to happen.
But I was like, oh, this is the part where he's like, yeah, you're scared now.
What are you going to do? And he's like, boop, I'm going to take you over.
And that's it. Like that was like the perfect like, OK, like you're going to go right back to where you started, buddy.
Like you didn't realize that this was a closed loop, but you closed the loop.
Like you could have lived in the matrix here forever, but you were too like you couldn't see past the decision you didn't understand.
So you just made a choice and it was the wrong one or at least the wrong one for you.
I love movies that make you think like that.
Like so good. So. I'm personally sitting at a ninety two.
I think I'm moving mine up to a ninety two, by the way.
That's exactly the number I was thinking and you saying it confirmed it.
All right, Rose, where are you sitting at?
What are your thoughts on writing overall?
No, overall, writing was super good. I feel like the only where it struggled with bringing back up the scene where Trinity just took forever to die.
That was definitely where the writing struggled.
But every other part, especially with Trinity and Neo and the conversations that they had,
especially her just talking about how she's just loved him this whole time and that love just will never end,
no matter what stakes they are, not not stakes, what heights he has to go to to actually succeed and what he needs to do as is it the one or the chosen one?
The one, the one, the one.
So I loved all of that. And honestly, I even loved like the little bits of conversation we got between Morpheus and what's her name?
Naomi, Naomi. I loved those two's writing, the really super solid.
The captain, the captain of the hammer, like the little.
Again, unintentional comedy. That dude was comic relief if I ever saw it.
That's ridiculous.
This that's just the comments that he was making while she was flying could have easily been cut out, but just like I didn't know the ship could do that.
My ship couldn't do that.
Or just like, damn, can she pilot?
But so funny. All of that was.
Oh, sorry. Please. No, no, no, no, no. I think I know what you're going to say is that it's when I think, oh, God, what is it when like they think that they've like one,
but that one guy comes up and he's just like, oh, you've doomed us all.
And he's just like, wait a minute. I thought we fixed everything. Yeah.
I'm like butchering the whole line. I don't I can't remember.
No, that was it. That was like that was like when he came up, when he when they were all like they were all just doing their like Superman pose.
They're like, we did it. You're welcome.
And Locke comes up and is like, you idiot screwed up everything. And they're like, huh? Us? I thought we won.
Oh, my. My favorite was that big speech that he gave about, well, I'm not giving you my ship.
This is my ship and my ship does what my ship does. And it only does what I say. And that's my ship.
And then Naomi is like, you can take my ship. And he's like, you can't do that.
And she's like, don't you after that speech, don't you try and tell me what to do with my ship?
That was that was super good, too.
So where are you sitting at, Rose?
I'd say I'm saying let's go in eighty seven.
Nice.
All right. Moving on over to acting.
This list is not in order.
We got Neo, who is played by Keanu Reeves.
We have Morpheus played by Laurence Fishburne.
We got Trinity played by Carrie Anne Moss.
Like I said, this list is not in order.
Well, who really else was there more? Did you say Laurence Fishburne?
Yeah. And then Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith.
I think the guy that played Bane should be in there.
Bane. Let's see. Where is Bane?
Ian Bliss.
Yeah, that guy did an amazing like who is going to do a better impression of Hugo Weaving than that guy?
Dude, I had to double check to make sure that wasn't Hugo Weaving in like like makeup or something or prosthetics.
Yeah. His voice was so like so spot on.
I'm like, dude, when he was like trying to explain who the hell he was to Neo and Neo just was not getting it.
Yeah, he's like dumbfounded. He's like, you still don't understand Mr. Anderson.
I'm like, dude, who else freaking talks like that?
But like, think about like he I don't know, man, like that.
That dude. It's funny because like nobody there was no arcs in this movie.
Like this was kind of like the we reached the top of the arc for all of these characters for the most part, just because if you're looking at that,
you I feel like you have to look at the second and third movie as like one one big thing.
And this was like the completion of all their arcs.
But I think everyone acted the bejesus out of this movie.
Even even our boy kid who was a nobody, nothing in the fur in the second movie.
And you actually got to see him kind of be like, first of all, really, we're going to say this kid is 16.
Relax. He's like 25. He could still be a meek 25.
But yeah, he I think I thought even he did really good in this movie compared to the second one.
Oh, yeah, he he was a lot less annoying.
I think it was just him like.
Had just worshiped not being like Gorsh, Neo, I can't believe you got this your spoon.
Like enough of you.
Yeah, frickin some like. Boo boo and yogi situation there.
Yeah, but everybody loved boo boo like this.
I'm offended by that.
I'll say it like live action, if anything, Morpheus Morpheus was by that to Morpheus was boo boo.
And this one, he was like, I don't know, Neo.
Or I guess the boo boo was a little higher pitched, but you know, I mean, I don't know, Neo.
It seems like a bad idea.
It was like, I'm going to go to the machine city and get a picnic basket.
Remember, remember, remember, all I'm saying is say what you will about that movie.
And Dan Aykroyd is kind of like spotty, sometimes yogi bear impression.
But Justin Timberlake's boo boo was on point.
That's hilarious. All I'm going to say.
Larius.
Yeah, I feel like everyone even stepped their game up from the from the from the first.
I keep saying from the second movie.
I don't know. It's almost like maybe they knew it was going to be over or something.
But like, it seemed like everyone was like taking this very seriously.
Yeah, it was like it was such a significant improvement from the second one.
It's so trippy to think that these came out the exact same year.
Yes.
When was the last time a student because I think that's releasing a second third in the same year.
Was it Back to the Future two and three?
I don't know if those came out the same year, but I know they were filmed like back to back.
Wasn't didn't Harry Potter didn't the last Harry Potter come out like that, too?
Was it the same year or was it like one year after the other or something like that?
I think part Death Isles Part one came out the end of one year and then Death Isles Part two came out like the summer of one year.
So it was like two calendar years, but like within less than 12 months of each other.
Yeah. OK, OK. So yeah, so.
Hold on, I'm looking that up real quick.
What about Endgame and Infinity War? How was the time frame between those at least a year probably, right?
Yeah, that was about a year.
Now those came a year apart to Deathly Hallows came out 2010 and then God dang it came out in 2011.
Let's see how close they were.
Oh, OK. So part one came out November 19th of 2010.
And part two came out July. So within a calendar year, they came out.
OK, that's awesome. So about eight months of each other.
Yeah. So not quite as close as this one, but still pretty close.
So, OK, so so I think we can definitely count Harry Potter.
So what are we on acting? Yeah, who else like Neo?
Obviously, like, again, it was just so I cannot stress this enough.
Like if you're someone who has is listening to this podcast and you've it's been a long time since you've watched these movies and maybe we're jogging your memory a little bit or something.
I'm telling you, like, Rose, you actually are the one to ask right now. Like you watched those movies basically back to back.
Like, how crazy was it to watch the Matrix Reloaded and the Matrix Revolutions back to back?
I mean, considering that it was nice knowing that after watching the second one and kind of not really liking it, I actually got a third one.
And it's a good next installment, like right away. Then I have to wait a couple of months.
So that was nice.
I'm sorry. No, I just guess I'm sitting personally at an eighty nine and that is mostly contributed to.
I would say Hugo weaving is his agent Smith was like. I love the agent Smith in this one.
And how about they do anything it does?
How about they didn't use too much CGI like they did?
But well, I guess we'll get into that in the facts. Yeah, I I'm definitely I think I'm going to have to give this one a ninety two ninety nine zero as well.
Because of all the things I said, like I think that again, we're just seeing like the end of this arc of all these characters and they really hold.
Like I said, like more like Laurence Fishburne.
Can I just tell you if we end up ranking these Laurence Fishburne is my number one in this movie only because like I am the most sympathetic to this guy because he he I would say him and Neo have had like a similarly wild arc.
Because like he went from being this like this cult leading zealot person who believed in this crazy thing that the Oracle told him so vehemently that he was willing to put his life on the line in the first one to like you could see like listen to how muted he was.
And you could just see like the disillusionment in his eyes like he had he had all the confidence they had was completely drained.
It was I really I don't think he gets enough credit in that movie for being as great as he was.
Yeah, he was he was really good.
If I had a rank like my top for this, I'm giving it to to Bane.
Yeah, Bane is definitely a high second for me because God dang dude.
Yeah, he I mean his role wasn't like too big, but the role he played just stood out so much.
Yes.
And just above everyone else's too like.
Yeah, it was because he had the most work to do, by the way, he had the most work to do in that movie out of everybody because he was playing a like a really pivotal role that like again is what's crazy too is that it's basically a throwaway part because not the not in the sense of how he played it, but in the sense of like it really has no connection other than the fact that he blinded him.
But like that that character does not connect back to the the the source material as it were being the agent Smith that sent him into the real world.
So I don't know. It's just I really I really like that dude.
Yeah, he did a killer job.
So yeah, so we got an 89 from me and 90 from DJ.
Where are you sitting that Rose?
I'm going to give it an 89 as well.
And actually, I know this is weird. I think one actually I want to point out that I thought I was going to hate her character, but I loved it was a jada Pickett Smith's Naomi.
I don't know. I really liked her in this one.
She was way better in this movie than the second one. In the second one, you're like, yeah, enough. Your hair is cool. We get it. Get out of here.
Exactly. But she seemed like a person in this one.
Yeah, I don't know why. I thought her and her team died in the second one.
I think some of her hair. I think some of her team or some of her crew did.
And I think it might have had to do with Bane, but I'm not sure. No, because Bane was on the hammer.
I don't know what I don't know. You're right. But I don't remember. Darn it. I'm gonna have to watch these movies again. Shucks.
Yeah, when she came like when she was introduced in this one and came like walking out, I'm just like, oh, shit, like we got more Agent Smith clones.
And yeah, so like because I remember a ship blowing up and I thought it was hers, but I guess it wasn't.
Actually, it was the Nebuchadnezzar. That was the ship that blew up in the last one.
No. OK, not not that one. The one where they were in the when when they were in the middle of the mission and like the people that were supposed to like disable the grid freaking all just died.
So those people died, too. I think they were like the I think that was the ship called like the red shirt or something.
Like it was one of those like it was one of those like it was always meant to die.
Like you were not going to know much about it. OK, that's probably because it wasn't I mean, because it wasn't her ship because the logos they that she gave her ship the logos to Neo and Trinity.
So, I mean, her ship didn't explode, but maybe her crew was on that ship.
I don't remember. All right. Rewatch.
Like if there was another ship there because I only remember there being like the three, the hammer Nebuchadnezzar and the Lobos.
I think she's a Lobos or logos.
Logos. OK, I was going to say Lobo is a different character.
Still very cool, though. Yeah. So I didn't I did not remember there being a fourth ship.
So that's probably where I got it got confused.
All right. But that brings our acting score to an eighty nine point three three.
And I'm not sure if I said it, but writing is sitting at a ninety point three three. Nice.
All right. Moving on over to character development.
I just kind of I went with Neo on this one. Personally, I mean, you I feel like you could have done it with anyone like you.
Like I'm assuming DJ, you could easily do this with Morpheus or any other character that we've been with along this journey.
But I personally went with Neo and just the conclusion to his his arc.
And it's it was so hard for me to not include what happened in the in the second movie.
So seeing it. Go on.
Like how kind of accepting his role as the one and and obtaining all these new abilities and learning how to use them and be ready for them.
So like that's what put him in the in the train station was not being ready to use his ability.
Yeah. Yeah. So just like finally kind of accepting his role and being able to like fully become the ideal one.
I thought he was a really good job.
I did have some issues here and there, mostly with the second one, because they kind of made him a side character in that.
So I wish that we would have gone to see more. So I ended up giving it an eighty seven.
Yeah, I think that going with Neo is really the only way to go, because like this is kind of like your you would say it's the Skywalker saga.
Like this is the Neo story. You know what I mean?
Like it's him being plucked out of obscurity, making his way all the way to sacrificing himself for, you know, the human race and which, by the way, can I just well, this probably has more to do with writing.
But I'll just say, yeah, I would I give this.
Rose, what would you give it?
Well, I kind of did my character development on someone different.
So my score might be different than your guys.
Who do you think? I actually did Trinity.
What? Also a good choice, by the way.
Well, thank you. All right. Thoughts?
I don't know. I thought especially in this one, I think what really made me decide that I really wanted to focus on her with character development is that scene in Club Hell where I'm going to butcher the hell out of his name again.
God damn it. What's his name? Starts with an M.
You can do it. I believe in you.
Muravijan.
Yes, Muravijan got it in one.
How he's just like, hey, if you guys want the one back, you know, well, he's just like, I got something you want.
You can get something I want. And he's just like, bring me the Oracle's eyes and you can have the one back.
And Trinity's just like, screw this.
Either you give us the one back or everybody dies.
And he's just like, you would literally kill everybody and yourself to for this to save this one man just because of love.
And she's just like, yes. And I love the love story, honestly, throughout this whole trilogy between these two.
And it honestly does suck that she she does die towards the end.
But by the end and that final kiss, you can truly tell that she would have given anything.
And I mean, anything she did, she gave her life for Neo because that was true freaking love.
And I feel that's a great character arc right there.
How crazy is it that that her even being in love with Neo is kind of a hardcore manipulation from the Oracle?
Because like if this is already all happened before and the Oracle is one of the mainstays in the Matrix and she can predict the future or at least predict choices like she's there was no reason
for what's her face to fall in love with the one like she just told her that she would like there was like telling Trinity that she would fall in love with the one just put her her sensors up to be like, oh, the people that we released from the Matrix that Morpheus thinks is the one.
I'm going to see how I feel about them.
So would she have ever even fallen for Neo had the Oracle not put that in her brain?
I mean, is this a break the face breaking situation?
You know what I mean? Like would this have all happened if she didn't kind of sort of nudge that into existence?
There's a lot of like it's weird.
It's weird how like the if you really think about like the Oracle truly is like the the Loki of all of this because she's just like, yeah, I mean, what is what is this to me?
Like, I'm always going to be here like I just I've seen the same thing happen five times already. Like I want to see something different.
It's taken 100 years what 500 years for all this to roll out. So I want to see something different this time.
Like it's I don't know. I heard a podcast where they were talking about that and I was like, like that is that is a weird thing to think about.
I don't know if I want, by the way, in all of this to say to at the end, it's not like we win.
Everyone's free. No, no, we go.
We go all the way back to the conversation that Neo had with the councilmen when they were looking at like the you know, the what is it?
The maintenance floor or whatever when they're talking about the machine human relationship and how we need these machines to live
and they need us to maintain them so that they continue on. And that's how the movie ends.
By the way, the movie ends with being like, yeah, I mean, we're going to reboot the Matrix.
It's still going to be here. We're still going to harvest your energy.
But if you don't want to be here, you don't have to. You can go live in Zion or whatever.
Like it's this weird thing of like it's not a happy ending.
It seems like it is, but it is not. It certainly is not because there are people that are still going to.
They even say it because she says to him, she's like, oh, how long is this piece going to last?
Or he says to her, how long is this piece going to last? She says as long as it can.
And he's basically is like, I'll keep my word to to let the people out that want to go out.
But we'll see. I'm Colonel Sanders.
So, by the way, with all that being said, I'm giving it a 90 for character.
Arks was it called development development.
It's late. I'm sorry.
Oh, you're good.
Where were you sitting at, Rose?
I'm going to go in eighty seven.
That's exactly where I was at, too.
Sorry, I cut you off to say way too much and then let you say your score.
So that brings our character development score to an eighty eight.
Nice. Moving on over to effects.
This is another one like how the hell were the effects better in this one?
Well, because they were more they were more sparse.
Like really, the only big effect was at the end when he did the slow motion punch to Smith's face.
But everything else was kind of like it was all kind of you were seeing wide shots of things happening.
Like all they really had to do was like make these machines look like schools of fish floating around.
So that's exactly what it looked like to me anyway.
They didn't like everything was dark. Everything was I don't know.
Like even though they seem to still use a lot of CG, like it still seemed like it was way more sparse than it was.
Maybe it's just because of that Smith fight where it's just become so pronounced how bad some of it ages that I don't know.
Even the thing with Smith, like it didn't look great when he punched him in the face, but it still looked really cool.
Like it was really cool to see. So I don't know.
One of the so I watched this.
Visual effects artists react videos. Not sure if any of you have watched those.
No, but that sounds amazing.
Yeah, but they go through all types of different movies.
And one of the movies that they recently talked about was Jurassic Park, specifically the T-Rex scene.
Yes, and they were explaining why being like with CGI being a new technology, why does that scene still look incredible?
Amazing. Yeah.
And they said that it has to do with the fact that they chose to use rain.
That with rain, like, yes, you kind of have a lot of different things to deal with, but the effects don't have to look as crisp.
Like you can have janky looking things hidden by rain.
And it's got that slick look anyway, because you're like, oh, it's slick from the rain, not from the fact that it's this weird uncanny valley thing that's happening.
Yeah. So that's kind of why I like after seeing that makes me wonder, like, is that why they did the the scene in rain, like the final fight in rain to hide the janky effects?
Because I feel like there could have been a ton of janky effects.
But yeah, the only one that I've noticed was the slow mo punch to the face.
Yeah, everything else looked great, like them flying at each other, like the how they whenever they hit, it would knock all the rain back and then start raining again.
Like that looked amazing. Yeah, I don't know.
Like, it's just funny how much darkness and now we know rain covers all sin.
It's true. But they try to do that with like they said that that like layers are are visual effects artists best friend, like hiding behind rain, hiding behind smoke, hiding behind like all different types of visual barriers.
Just lets you be a little more janky with your effects.
They made me you just made me realize I would I do they have one on the alien franchise because I feel like that's why the xenomorph looks so amazing is because it's in the dark.
That dude is super wet all the time.
There's always like some kind of like pipe shooting smoke out.
Like there's all these kind of like weird lighting things happening so that like you never get like a real great look at it.
Yeah, no checks out turns out there's some professionals out there.
Yeah, I don't know. I know they've talked about the matrix before so I'll have to send you that video but I don't know if they've ever covered alien.
I would like to know what they'd have to say about that.
Yeah, I'll send you a link to their their channel like they they do some good stuff they have like three different series that they do like their visual effects crew and so they have like recreating this scene or.
Like just different visual effects challenges that they do and then like the I watch them strictly for the breakdown or the react videos but they have like visual effects artist react they have stuntmen react.
They have animators react so I'll send you the link to their channel.
Oh for anyone who wants to know there it's the the corridor digital on YouTube.
I wonder.
No, no, no.
I saw one that was kind of like that I don't know if it's from the same people but like a professional archer reacted to how both Clint and Kate shoot and guy frickin hated how Jeremy Renner shot he's just like the way that he's pulling back the bow there's no way you can get a good
pressure behind your pull to release it that fast but he's but then he's just like no see Kate is actually actually doing really good archery when she's shooting out of the car. I'm just like that's really sad.
I mean Renner's been playing Hawkeye for God what like over 10 years and Haley Steinfeld's only been Kate Bishop for this one show. She's a better archer for Jeremy Renner is a tired man okay he's got a lot on his plate.
I don't think it's, it's the same channel, because I, they've, like they kind of just have like very broad. I don't think they do like archers react.
Okay.
I think they stick with like animators stuntmen and visual effects artists that makes more sense.
By the way, one more thing, actually two more things I want to get out that I forgot I wrote these down and forgot to say I'm like, until that last fight between Neo and Smith, like you never really like you hear people call him the one.
And you hear people say that Smith is like this frickin, you know, immovable force or whatever, but it's really not until that last fight that you really kind of understand what is happening, because like, like, even what is happening when Smith is assimilating
people, because like he assimilates them and then gets their power basically. So that's why when he is, you know assimilates the Oracle he's I have foreseen it that's why I'm here.
And you see neat like he's got like the power of all the, all the people in the matrix at this point, and Neo is still able to like knock his face into the dirt and like so hard that he like has pieces of the road come up and like slide up behind him, like they're
like them coming at each other and it's showing like this giant, I don't know, power, whatever you would call it, the thing that makes the rain go away. Like they hate each other so hard rain stoppy.
It's, it's, it's a great fight, like I also don't think that that as far as we because I guess we're still in effects, like I don't think that scene gets enough credit for like really showing how powerful these two things are.
And like, what like a really cool like legit cool anime fight happens. Like, this is like all the stuff that people talk about happening and like Dragon Ball Z and all that stuff like this is that, like they're fighting while they're falling down they're fighting
up they're flying through buildings there, like all these cool things are happening that like shouldn't don't happen really in live action movies, if it's not a Marvel movie or a DC movie. So I don't know it's just like two super duper powerful people
going at it. So I don't know like that. What did I give effects that I give it a 90 if not I give it a 90. Were we to effects. Yeah, they're wrong.
Yeah, we're on effects. I might even get you know what I'm giving it a 92.
All right, bumping that up to a 92.
I'm not sure if I said my score I'm sitting at an 89.
And I feel like that's pretty high like generous. Yeah, not, not, not generous like I think it's pretty well earned the.
My biggest issue aside from the slow mo face punch was the, the final fight with, or not the final fight the, the battle with the Sentinels in Zion.
What do you mean they don't think five mechs or 12 mech suits versus 250,000 squiddies were.
You don't think that was normal.
That because I feel like the close up shots looked really good the mech suits looked really cool too. It was when they, they gave us a wide shot and you could see the the Sentinels flying around they just felt very almost too uniform.
I was willing to forgive that because we kind of have you guys done a breakdown of the Avengers, the original Avengers.
Yes.
Like, I feel like the Chitauri swarms, whenever they came were kind of the same thing, like you would see stuff close up, and you would be like, Oh, that's cool. But when it was like wide shots like it would just be like, there's some nameless guys flying around on hoverboards or whatever that's cool I guess.
That's not I'm not saying that that was good or bad I'm saying that like this kind of was like, I don't know. I think the answer would ultimately be like, what are you supposed to do, like, they're not real.
We just need something moving in the background and let you know there's a lot of them.
This is the best we're going to be able to do.
Because it seems like that problem has not really been able to be super resolved when you need to have like a lot of things be portrayed at once. So I don't know I was I was a little more forgiving of that, considering that not much has changed really.
I think what just took me out of it is when is like, while they were fighting, it just seemed like you could just shoot up the stream of sentinels. And then it would like, be held back or like disperse or whatever and I'm just like I feel like machines would be like, coming in.
Coming in through the one entry point like I could absolutely forgive that. It's once they came out and became like a line of of the swarm. And then like, yeah, when, what was his name, Mifune just like was shooting up the center of them.
Like that's like, I feel like they would just like spread around and like try to beat him up. But that dude Captain Mifune does not get enough credit for selling those mech suits a 100%. Like when he was right before he died, you see him like.
All I could imagine was like him just basically in a room doing that with just people watching him going action and like that dude looked like he was straight up killing machines.
I killed that role.
Yeah.
So that's where I'm sitting at with effects I'm sitting at 89.
Bro's where you at? I would say I'm at an 88. I agree with every single thing that you guys said. I just want to add like one more thing. I don't know what it is. When it comes to like people running in the rain. I think it looks so freaking cool.
And when they're run when Neo and Asian Smith are running at each other.
Freaking love that part. So good.
Dude, I don't know why, but my favorite effect out of this whole thing is when they do that first initial like power punch and like the rain disperses. And then, then like it's like a panned up shot like so you're like looking up towards Neo and Smith flying, and then you like see the back of the heads of all the other Smiths and just the rain like falls on them.
Like I love that shot for some reason. That was cool as hell.
Yeah, every that everything about that fight scene I feel like was.
It's everything you would want out of that matrix fight scene.
Oh yeah, it was so good. Like I do feel the rain was like a bit excessive but I do feel like it just added to the weight of the overall fight.
And tell you this is not an effects thing. But one thing I wrote this down to I forgot.
Kid, because that was his name in the movie I guess kid. The one that took over the Mac and opened up gate three.
When that sorry bastard went and there was like the war is over I was like hey man, you don't get to do that. Okay.
That's not for you to do.
And then, and link. Yeah, like, hey man, you guys just saw a child come in and say the war is over. Relax. Okay.
How about everybody not not freak out until a councilman or lock shows up a child came and said the war is over.
You didn't earn that sir. Okay.
That's the thing I was kind of expecting because I'm like, is it I was like he was doing that and like charging like the war is over I was kind of happening at a Sentinel to just like pierce right through him and like rip his heart out.
Like straight up Indiana Jones, Kali Ma.
Moving on over to music.
I'm sitting at an eight with this one.
I didn't have like the scores were epic I think they use of music was really well done.
Again what I was missing from this is like a catchy song, or just something that gets stuck in my head like there you go.
I don't think they use that as much. That was definitely more of a like, first and second high octane thing where this was like a somber away more somber like Neo's fitness sacrifice themselves vibe.
The slow version.
Or they play it with piano.
So that's, that's honestly all that was missing for me overall I do think the soundtrack was really good and really well done.
I don't have much notes past that. And that's why we created out of 10.
This movie again was like why it doesn't even make sense that the same people made it or were in it, because I'm giving the music, a 10, because it was, it was everything I would want from a matrix score they had the horns there.
There were things there was big orchestral moments, but you know what we didn't have. We didn't have people hitting other people and it sounds like bowling pins, like we didn't have like you know and nobody, nobody even one time went, boy oh yeah like nobody did that.
It's crazy that like how like weirdly almost slapstick you this second one was, and this one was like all right all right all right all right, we'll take it seriously, let's just, let's just finish this thing up and make it a good one.
That is very true I completely forgot about that.
All right so DJs out of 10. What are you, where are you at Rose? I probably grew up Caleb, I'm gonna go on eight, just because basically everything that he said there wasn't really anything that stuck out to me, it's a great matrix soundtrack don't get
me wrong it really still feels like it belongs in a matrix film, and it gets you hyped for the parts that you supposed to get hyped for especially the score that plays during the Neo and Agent Smith fight, but nothing really like hugely stuck out to me.
Alrighty well that averages us out to a nine for music.
Next up we got costumes.
I'm, I forget what I gave the second one but I think I'm at the same level I gave it like an eight.
I mean what would be, what would you say the criteria would be for a 10, because like, I feel like this was like the costumes weren't because I would say a 10, but you don't write that down yet because the only reason I was thinking 10 is because, like,
nothing seemed necessarily like over the top where I was like, I want to dress like that for Halloween, but there was nothing that was like, there was nothing that I saw that I was like what, no one would wear that like that's not a thing.
Like nothing was like super impressive or underwhelming or out of place. Like I think everyone, I did they seem like that's exactly what they would be dressed like, and how they would be acting like in the way that they're dressed like I don't know I.
That's why I thought 10 because I'm like, so yeah, what would you say would be it would have made it a 10.
That's a tough one because it's like, I know we gave them the first matrix, a 10 when it came to costumes.
Well, because that one was like flamboyantly like, you know, there is this drab world juxtaposed against this matrix world where we're going to be like super extra.
And like, you know, look as cool as possible while doing the coolest things.
Where like this movie, especially against that movie like it had basically nothing to do with the matrix at all. Like there was times where they were in the matrix but it really wasn't like
weirdly a movie called the matrix, it was not about being in the matrix for the majority of the movie.
So I think it's just for me it's just iconic looking costumes, like, and I know that that kind of like seems like we'd give superhero movies like super high score on costumes.
But I feel like we're a little bit more critical on on superhero movies.
And this not being one there just wasn't a single costume that stood out too much everything fit for the world that they they had in place.
It's just, I don't know for me it's just like there wasn't like a standout like whoa costume for me. It's just like, all right.
I will say a nine then.
Because I still I don't know like I hear what you're saying. And I understand it, but I feel like the.
If the only thing that was holding this movie back from being a 10 was having one iconic look, then I feel like then, you know, to me in my eyes then that that just makes it a nine, because it was, if it was right on the cusp, then
close but no cigar or so nine out of 10.
Yeah, I think what would have bumped it up for me would have been a like a final form for Neil.
I mean he took off that weird looking duster that he had in the second one, so
that's fair.
You know what I.
I don't know if this would have worked.
As well as I think it would.
But I think during the fight with with agent Smith at the end.
Had he defeated him and like after like been assimilated and then broke open and became Neo once again like had he come like in a white outfit.
Now that would have nevermind that would have been super on the nose.
You are now cleansed agent.
Yeah, no, not Smith agent Smith Neo.
You're saying we're a white leather outfit but I'm like yeah that no as I as I speak it out into the world and sounds super dumb.
Because you're thinking of what it would have been you're like, no, no, no, no, no, they would have looked like the ghost twins.
Yeah, that's exactly.
So, nevermind don't listen to me.
So funny.
I'm gonna go DJ I'm gonna go the nine.
Just because it's really the only problem I have is you only got like two scenes where they were actually wearing like the leather matrix suits so.
And that I really didn't have any problems with the costumes they all worked and they look good.
Alrighty well that brings our costume grade to a nine.
Nice.
All right, last step we got our own personal scores for it.
Start.
I'll go first because since I have my score already.
I'm going to give this, this one an 88.
Like I really like this movie I felt it was significantly better than the second, not quite as good as the first one.
It was it was a weird middle middle ground.
So if I had to like rank these so far, I'd go one, three, two, or.
Yeah, yeah.
That's right.
You got it.
Don't second guess yourself.
Yeah, it took me a second to like, is that right?
But yeah, I thought it was really good.
Definitely.
There are some themes in this movie that I do want to go back and explore which I do really appreciate about the the matrix movies.
Like any, anytime I've heard different podcasters talk about the matrix, there are so many different filters that you can watch this through.
Like I, there's one that I listened to that was talking about the matrix and saying that you could watch it through like a Christianity filter.
And interesting.
Yeah, and there's just like a bunch of different ones that you could watch the matrix through.
And I think that that that leads for a really interesting movie and can kind of give you some fresh eyes on each viewing.
Like with the more the filters that you can watch it through, so I appreciate that about it. So yeah, I'm sitting at an 88.
For me, I feel it did a very good job tying it all together, especially with what they had to come from with the second one.
I actually relate the third one, and I'm sure DJ hates me doing this.
I relate the third one of this to how JJ Abrams had to walk into the rise of Skywalker.
Whereas with Rian Johnson, he barely went anywhere with the last Jedi, at least to me.
And so JJ Abrams had to fix so much with the rise of Skywalker, even though all three of these were, or even though all three of the matrix were directed by the Wachowskis.
I feel they just had so much more to ground, more ground together in the third one.
And then they actually did a really good job tying it all up to the point where I was actually honestly impressed that for the most part, like it all made sense once it was all done.
So I'm going to go an eighty. It's going eighty six.
So I was going to tell you guys before the show like this.
It's been I've watched these movies, all three of these movies a billion times, but it's been a long time since I've watched these movies and I have never, ever watched any of them with a critical eye.
Like I've just I have been like it's a matrix time and I just watch the Matrix movies because I love them.
And this has definitely shed some light on these movies that I didn't realize was there.
Like there's definitely more problems with these movies than I realized.
I mean, really mainly the second one, but by extension, the third one, because the second one was so weird.
But overall, though, like I.
I.
Nothing anyone thinks about these movies is going to change how much I love them all.
Like, even though I see the flaws in them more than I ever did, I'm still giving this movie a one hundred because it is again, like I said, this is the trilogy that if I could watch three movies for the rest of my life, it would be these three movies just because they are.
I don't know. I it's like you were saying, Caleb, like you could watch them with so many different colored glasses on.
Like, oh, now I want to watch this and think about Buddhism when I watch it.
I want to watch it now and think about the the trans trans journey.
I want to watch it now and think about, you know, the Christian journey, like whatever it like.
It's a great it's a great bunch of movies.
And like I said, like every all of us have said and realized impossibly stuck the landing like they got it.
So like right on the nose. Good with how they ended this, that it just doesn't make sense.
So like I'm glad it happened, but it seems impossible.
So yeah, this will always have a one hundred of my heart.
All three of them. Well.
All right. So with all those, that brings our personal score to a ninety one point three.
And since that is the last category, the final all bros and untrained eye letter grade for the Matrix Revolution is.
Yeah, I had it. Yeah. A B plus a listen.
Remember, this time you have to do the ones that that got above it first.
Because even though we all agree this one's better than the second one, people are going to be upset by the movies that this beat.
Yeah. So this is sitting at an eighty nine point five four percent.
So let me figure this out real quick.
Do you factor in the personal grades to do with this order or those just separate?
No, I factor in the personal scores.
Oh, wow. I feel like I've really been skewing these Matrix movies up, but I'm not changing my personal grades.
All right. So the Matrix Revolution sitting at an eighty nine point five four.
So you want me to do the ones that it beat or that that beat it?
No. Do the ones that came that that beat it.
That makes sense. The ones that are above it first and then do the ones under it last.
OK. All right. So first one we got a.
It's hold on.
I have a system and it's a little bit messed up right now.
The Matrix Revolution is sitting at an eighty nine point five four, which puts it below Black Widow,
which is at an eighty nine point six two.
It puts it below Better Watch Out, which is at an eighty nine point seven two.
Puts it below Ghostbusters Afterlife, which is at an eighty nine point seven five.
Puts it below The Five Bloods, which is at an eighty nine point eight.
And then finally below a marriage story, which is at an eighty nine point eight one.
Yeah. So these next ones, these are the ones that people are going to be like, DJ, you're not welcome here anymore.
What did you do?
All right. So this puts it above Ready or Not, which is at an eighty nine point four zero.
It puts it above our original Spider-Man Far From Home, which is at an eighty nine point three five.
Oh, shit.
What's up, Vic?
Puts it above Black Panther, which is at an eighty nine point three four.
It puts it above Knives Out, which is at an eighty nine point three one.
Puts it above Rise of the Planet of the Apes, which is at an eighty nine point two five.
This is perfect.
And then finally puts it above the Spider-Man Far From Home.
That is with the additional Crash and Taz and Untrained Eye scores score addition, which is eighty nine point two zero.
What a kick in the nuts. What a kick in the nuts that is.
Oh, man. Imagine being Vic right now listening into this podcast being like, oh, I quit.
I'm not being on anymore.
You want to have this idiot be your third co-host? Good luck, stupid.
Part of me doesn't want him to hear this because I feel like him hearing that it's that it's above a Far From Home, both Far From Homes.
Oh, it's going to. Could you imagine? I mean, it couldn't have just gotten just under the original Far From Home.
No, no, no. It had to be both.
OK, well, it's not it's it's close like the margins.
The margins are like really close.
The difference between the Matrix Revolutions and I'll even say like the updated Far From Home score is point three percent.
I mean, listen, it's not fair.
Like it's not fair because like these are my favorite movies.
There was no way that no matter what I graded them, like the personal was going to be a hundred.
Like it's not fair. But I mean, what did Scott Pilgrim get rated like a C plus or something like life is there?
None of us feel good about that one.
Life just isn't fair sometimes.
Sometimes the third Matrix is better than a Spider-Man movie.
That's all. Bet you they try so hard to make sure like no way home gets as high as it can.
I know it kind of makes you have to be over critical.
Considering what it's considering, what it's at right now on Rotten Tomatoes, maybe he might have a good point.
What's that? It's at a ninety five percent right now.
Oh, damn. Yeah. That's something interesting.
What do you what do the Matrix movies have on Rotten Tomatoes?
I've never even thought to. So the third one has like a thirty something percent.
Holy shit, that's completely unfair.
OK, let's find out. So, yes. So the third one has a thirty five percent tomato meter score and a sixty percent audience score.
Well, that's bullshit. And then just go backwards, go to reloaded.
Yeah, sounds good to me.
That has a seventy three percent on Rotten Tomatoes and then a seventy two percent audience score.
So that's like neck and neck. That's actually kind of cool.
So, wait, are you telling me what reloaded at?
Reloaded is at a seventy three.
And what do you say revolutions was like in the thirties?
Yeah, revolutions is at a thirty five.
Bruh, this is why the only.
The only review that matters is ours. Yeah, for sure.
Oh, my God. Yes, I just looked at it too.
Oh, yeah. Eighty eight percent.
Well, that's an eighty five audience score.
By the way, I didn't realize like I knew what Rotten Tomatoes was, but I never check it.
One hundred and fifty seven critic reviews, two hundred and fifty thousand plus audience reviews for the original matrix.
Damn. Geez. Yeah, I feel I feel like our scores are way better in line.
Like if you were to if we were to go to anyone and say, oh, like what?
Other than Scott Pilgrim, because OK, like the times that I have shown are our list to like coworkers.
I always catch it for Scott Pilgrim if they've seen it.
Other than that, they're just like, you know, they're like your scores are pretty accurate.
And like the ones that people disagree with, they're like, oh, I don't agree with that one.
I'm like, OK, go to the the individual breakdown of the.
Like the categories and when they look at the category scores, they're like, OK, like I get it.
Yeah, I think, yeah, the matrix, I mean, clearly the third one did not get its its just its justice.
So hopefully we did. I was going to say, hopefully we did our part.
I hope everyone watch watches listens to all these matrix shows and then watches the new matrix starring John Wick and enjoys it thoroughly.
By the way, how much do you think? Did you guys see Hamilton, the movie?
Well, whatever the Broadway show turned Disney plus movie, I have not watched it yet.
Never mind. Well, the guy that plays his therapist, that's not Neil Patrick Harris,
the one that's like the one that's like, can you believe it? We're going back to the matrix.
That guy, does he not look like he would be like some new version of the mirror of Vengean?
Because when I was watching this movie, I was like, he looks kind of like that dude from that commercial.
I only ask is that guy the one that's like, we're going back to the matrix.
He was he had a part in Hamilton, but you never saw that.
No. Anyway, sorry for anyone who I ruined your Spider-Man visions and thoughts about my personal grade.
You know, you guys have no idea how happy I am that adding your scores lowered the overall score for Far From Home.
That is amazing.
The one thing that didn't want to happen happened.
I like I felt like I was very fair on that, too.
Like I wasn't like overly congratulatory and I wasn't like super harsh to that movie.
But apparently a little too harsh. Oops.
Oh, yeah, I thought that that was freaking great. But anyway.
Yeah. So one thing that's pretty interesting, the difference between the matrix and the matrix revolutions on our on our scores is less than a percent.
Really? Yeah.
The matrix. So the matrix revolutions, like I said, is at an eighty nine point five four.
The matrix is at a ninety point two four.
So it's less than a percent difference, but they are different grades.
The matrix being at an A minus spoiler alert if you haven't listened to the episode and then the matrix revolution being at a B plus.
Where did reloaded land again? I forgot.
B minus it's significantly lower.
It's it's at an it's at an eighty one.
God damn.
Which speaking of like how do you being with the personal grade?
Yeah. Yeah. Where were you at?
Or do you agree with that score?
Yes. My personal score probably would have been eighty.
So, yeah, I definitely agree with that.
Yeah, probably would have brought it down a little bit, but not too much.
And I mean, rightfully so.
The movie did some pretty egregious things.
By the way, I will say this.
I did get to come up with my they lived in the dark web and they went to the normie web highway comparison, which I was really like, you don't know this, but I was like breaking my arm to like pat myself on the back for that one.
I was like, I can't believe I made the connection. This is amazing.
I finally did it. I'm a movie critic now.
I love it.
Yeah, I'm excited for number four after after this.
Like this was a super solid idea.
I'm very excited, but very scared.
Like I need this movie to not be bad.
It doesn't have to be great, but it needs to not be bad. It needs to be at least revolution.
Okay.
You say at least revolutions. Yep. Listen, it's not going to be one. Okay.
Because here's the thing that I found out too about the Matrix is that the Matrix before it became a movie, it had been shopped around for like upwards of 10 years, which means that they had 10 years to hone in on this story that they were going to tell for the first movie.
And then the it was a huge success and they got a bunch of money and in less than a quarter of the time they had to shoot out these next two movies.
So the general consensus is, is that hopefully that with this amount of time in between movies that this one will be good.
But I mean, listen, let's be real honest.
Like it's if it's as as good as the Matrix, I won't believe it.
If it's as good or better than revolutions, that's honestly where my expectations are.
Like at now that we have watched all these through, like if it's at least that good or slightly better, I'm okay with that.
But it can't be worse than revolutions. It just can't. I won't let it be.
I will strike it from the record.
Well, I guess we'll find out in when does it come out? Seven weeks, two weeks comes out.
Well, it comes out on the 22nd. Right.
I thought it was the 22nd.
I think, yeah, I think it is the 22nd.
Oh, next Wednesday.
Well, sorry from this Wednesday. Yeah, that's what I meant.
It's the 20th, everybody.
All right. Well, I do believe that concludes this week's breakdown.
DJ, would you like to tell everyone where they can find all of your lovely content?
If you somehow don't know by now, then what are you even doing with your life?
Are you a new listener to the Albrows? Well, hello. How are you?
You started at the end of a trilogy. I'm not sure why you did it, but I'm glad you're here.
I do a podcast with my wife, Beth, called the Untrained Eye. It's very good.
You can find it wherever you're listening to podcasts right now.
If you want to find us on Twitter or Instagram, untrained iPod at whatever or at untrained iPod.
I'm posting on there again on Instagram and Twitter. So check it out.
There's things happening. Send us an email. untrainedipod.gmail.com.
Buy a t-shirt at nowhere.nothing. Get a hat at wedontsellhats.com.
What else? There's nothing. Check out Ben.
What size fits most or are they adjustable?
So they're actually they're not like the fitted caps. They're like those.
You know how you know how when you were a kid and you had quote unquote jeans,
but they were just like they had the stretchy top, you know, like they're all bunched up and stretchy at the top.
Like that's what our hats are like.
They just like they are one size fits all because they just bunch up and you can just put them on and they fit.
They fit pretty much any size dome. So remember that's we don't have hats at no hats dot com.
That was a long bit for no hats. Yeah. The untrained eye. Check us out right now. Do it.
Oh, yeah. I'll put links to everything that that they do in the episode description.
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Where you can listen to the podcast, learn a little bit more about us, buy merch if you want.
You can get more customizable merch on our website or you can go to T public, which there's a link on the on the website for that.
But apparently the only thing that we're worth getting.
I was going to say, what's our monster? What's our monster house update?
We've had three more purchases. That's right.
Tell your friends you have your monster house merch, bro.
It is beyond frustrating for me every time I get an email.
You got to say it on like if it is monster house, I'm going to snap.
Son of a bitch. So good.
Ridiculous. Anyway.
Look forward to next week where we will be breaking down the latest Marvel movie, Spider-Man, No Way Home.
More than likely featuring our unofficial third host.
Just so you know, everyone almost tuned out for a second. They were like another one with DJ.
Oh, Vic. OK, thank God. Oh, God.
I thought we were going to hear him again because he doesn't put his voice on the Internet enough.
I doubt that the episodes with you and Vic on them end up being our more popular ones.
That's funny. I love that. That's awesome.
Yeah. So you guys can look forward to that next week.
And until then, this has been the All Bros podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and I'm Mr. Anderson.
Yes. Welcome back.
And we will catch you guys next week.
Peace is so long. Bye bye.
Got Herbert and Mario.
I don't know what you're talking about.