What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast we got nothing for 4k spotlight.
My wallet is thanking that very very much.
So we'll be moving straight into Through the Wall where we got two trailers to talk about.
One that came out this past week.
Because I always forget that this releases on Monday so I can't just say this week.
This past week and then one that came out two weeks ago that we just forgot to talk
about.
And then after that we'll be moving straight into our All Bros headliner of the evening
which will be our breakdown of Illuminations Sing 2.
Hells yeah.
Yeah.
So Caleb what do you say we get started?
I say let's do it.
Alright.
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Alright so starting off with Through the Wall we got a brand new, well first trailer for
the new Disney Plus Marvel series coming out this March and that is Moon Knight.
And I know Kayla but I feel this was definitely the one that you were hyping up the most.
I know you were very excited for this one.
I was actually super excited for this one.
It was this one, I was actually excited for She-Hulk a little bit more than I was Moon
Knight.
That's fair.
Makes sense to me.
If I were to rank it it would be She-Hulk, Moon Knight, then Ms. Marvel.
And the only reason Ms. Marvel is that low is because of the power change but we'll discuss
that when it comes to it.
Yeah.
But yeah, Moon Knight, like I was super hyped for this one.
And I was super excited for it because of the leaked artwork of his costume.
Like I loved that look on him.
Like the way that he was, it looked like he was a mummy.
And just like all the different wrappings and bandages and stuff.
I can't remember, did you show that to me?
I'm pretty sure I did.
I think you did.
I think I sent it to you and Vic.
Yeah, because I don't remember looking that up myself.
Yeah.
I sent that to you because I wanted your thoughts on how he looked.
Because if you look at Moon Knight in the comics, he's portrayed as wearing a completely
white costume.
Like white cape, white hood, with an owl beak.
And then kind of like an Assassin's Creed hood.
But he has that pointed hood.
And then his face is like completely black with white eyes.
And that's just kind of how he's portrayed.
So like a lot of people have interpreted that as he's wearing like a black mask.
But then there's other times where he's been seen with his hood off and it's a white mask.
So everyone's just like, oh, so it's just the blackness that we're seeing is just a
shadow.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So it's like just a bunch of like weird interpretations of it.
But I think Marvel interpreted it really, really well.
Where it's like the mummy bandage wrap thing.
Like whatever the hell you want to call that.
Like the white wrapping on his face with a white hood.
Like you just kind of accepting the fact that like, okay, we established that he's wearing
a white mask with a white hood.
There's no way in hell that we're going to be able to like make that look black.
So just freaking run with it being white.
Like who cares?
And I love it.
I love his look.
It's freaking crisp.
It honestly really is.
I know jack shit about Moon Knight.
Honestly, I really got to start reading up more on comics because I'm like, so I feel
like literally every Disney plus series that has come out except for Hawkeye, I'm just
like, yeah, I know jack shit about these characters.
I need to find a podcast for you to listen to.
Like just like one that will give you like a 15 to 20 minute rundown of characters.
Dude, if you can find that, you would be the best person ever.
Like my favorite podcast for like Marvel and DC related content, like one that will get
like give like a good rundown on characters is the dynamic duel.
But you kind of like you have to wait for them to do like a duel between two characters
and then hear like listen to the backstory of that said character.
So do they do like it's like Marvel versus DC.
So have they done Hawkeye versus Green Arrow?
Yes they have.
And Hawkeye won by like 23 percent.
I'll take it.
Yeah, it was like it was a coin flip.
I will take it as long as Hawkeye won.
That's all I care about.
Yeah, it was freaking tight.
Like that was I think I sent that one to you, but they've they've recently gone under a
paywall like so it's only their four most recent episodes that are like free to the
public.
So if you want to listen to their older stuff, like they have a Patreon and and whatnot,
like I highly recommend the show like whether like it's it's super easy to just start and
go on like there's not any it's not like a oh you have to listen from the beginning type
of show.
It's just like you can start week to week.
Like I've skipped some some episodes just because I haven't seen the movies that they
were discussing.
But yeah, great show.
But I think yeah, I mean, I feel like I know one I'd have to double check on my Spotify,
but I'll have to see if I can find a good podcast that will give you like a quick rundown
of characters.
Yeah, dude, because yeah, if you could, like I said, you'd be the best person ever.
Yeah.
But I don't know a whole lot about Moon Knight either.
Oh, I know, like just some bare bones stuff about him.
I know that his real name is Mark Spector.
I was gonna comment on some like so his name is not Stephen.
Okay.
No, so his his real name is Mark Spector.
He is diagnosed with multiple personality disorder.
Each of his multiple personalities has a different fighting style.
Like he has one that fights exactly like Wolverine, one that fights like Spider-Man, one that
fights like Captain America, and then I think Black Panther as well.
Oh, that's freaking cool.
Yeah, so each of his personalities has a different fighting style.
He he was taken over.
So he was an archaeologist that took over or that got taken over because he was exploring
some Egyptian ruins and became possessed by an Egyptian god and then kind of became his
his herald or like his basically like became another personality of his like another voice
inside his head.
Yeah.
And gave him like superhuman abilities and whatnot.
But from what I've kind of heard, I haven't like personally read this.
So take this with a grain of salt.
But he like the whole thing now is that he actually didn't get possessed by this Egyptian
god that he just kind of imagined the whole thing.
And like something traumatic happened in the during the excavation.
And during that that period of time, he created the Egyptian god persona.
Oh, okay.
And so the whole thing now is like, oh, does he actually have superhuman powers or is that
just his his body like tricking himself into giving himself abilities, kind of like the
whole split thing?
Okay.
So I mean, that's that's pretty much all I know.
I don't know the names of his other personas.
I think one is like a taxi driver.
I love it.
Yeah.
But then yeah, so he just kind of like blacks out, I guess, and then goes and does moon
night shit.
But so it's kind of like what this trailer is portraying a little bit like he's going
by Steven and Steven has like a sleeping disorder and has to like chain himself to the bed.
So when he gets taken over by well, okay, so like when he wakes up from not remembering
him being moon night at night, is it kind of like how, you know, when the Green Goblin
takes over Norman, he doesn't remember anything once he comes back to being Norman?
I think so.
Okay.
I think Norman has more of an awareness.
Okay.
At least in the movies, like I think Norman in the in the comics is like fully aware that
he's the Green Goblin.
Oh, I think again, don't quote me on this.
Like any anytime I say I think you just assume it's probably wrong.
But yeah, I I, I do think that moon night has less awareness.
Like I in the comics, it's kind of weird.
Like I don't I don't know the relationship between Mark Spector and and moon night or
one of the other personalities and and moon night because Mark Spector is technically
moon night and one of the other personalities is someone else.
So I don't know the relationship that they have.
I don't know if it's like if it's like split where they're all kind of aware of each other
and they're just like leaving one of them in the dark.
Huh?
Like I, yeah, I have no idea what that relationship is like.
But I'm interested to see what they they do with this.
Yeah.
So I don't know what it is to me, but it's weird seeing Ethan Hawke with such long hair.
I don't know why.
Yeah, but I'm loving what I'm seeing of him so far.
But I mean, Ethan Hawke's an amazing actor, so I'm not surprised there.
Yeah, for real.
I am really shocked that this is coming out so soon.
Yeah, March, like, holy shit.
Yeah, I know.
Like I thought the next show was going to be what?
Ms. Marvel.
I think that was the plan, but just because of the extensive reshoots, they had to push
that one back.
So I guess Moon Knight was ready to go.
So they're like, well, you know, let's let that one be the first Disney plus Marvel show
of the year.
Nice.
I mean, I'm not upset by that at all.
No.
I mean, what one hell of a birthday month present, right?
No joke.
I'm so excited.
Like I would have preferred She-Hulk, but I'll take it.
Fair enough.
I don't give a shit.
I am really excited to see what 2022 entails now, because we don't really know any release
schedule for these shows now, right?
No, as far as I know.
Yeah, it's like all up in the air.
Like I feel like 2021, the Marvel shows are pretty, pretty well set with when they were
supposed to come out.
But yeah, yeah, this lineup of shows is kind of up in the air right now, I feel.
Well, that's going to be interesting.
I guess we'll find like I hope they have a trailer or something for the next show at
the end of Moon Knight.
Yeah, I hope so, too.
Yeah, because I was kind of shocked they didn't do that.
Like they didn't have a tease for like Moon Knight at the end of Hawkeye or something
like that.
I think the reason that we didn't get anything with that was probably because they didn't
know.
Fair enough.
Like I think they were just thinking like, OK, like we have no idea which way this is
going to go for us.
Like it could go like we could still release Ms. Marvel.
We we might not be able to like I think it was just so up in the air that they just didn't
want to like commit to anything.
I remember when because Hawkeye was supposed to come out in October, but then there's like,
oh, no, it got pushed to November.
I'm like, wait, what the hell?
But then it's like they showcase that, oh, it's because it's a Christmas theme show.
I'm like, OK, that makes a lot more sense.
Yeah.
So I don't think we're going to get like a certain theme with with any of the shows.
Yeah.
I think Hawkeye was the only one that got that which I was OK with.
It worked very well.
I loved it.
I mean, hopefully 2022 is rich in in Marvel content because right now the only two things
at least for the beginning of the year are.
Are this show Moon Knight and Doctor Strange in what may.
Yeah.
Other than that, we don't have like anything else on the on the schedule.
Yeah.
It's a bit of a bummer.
Yeah, it's true.
I mean, hopefully in that time they'll release No Way Home on Disney Plus.
Well, No Way Home can't come to Disney Plus because it's still Sony owned.
Because it's Sony I forgot.
So dumb.
Yeah.
But that is supposed to come to digital in February.
So hopefully the physical physical media copy or physical release, whatever, isn't too far
off after that because I pre-ordered the steelbook already, but it's still saying release date
pending.
OK.
Well, lame.
Yeah, it is.
Oh, well, actually, no, not oh well, because I want to watch that again.
Yeah, me too.
Like that.
Such a good movie.
Anyway, maybe that looks really good.
It does.
I was pleasantly surprised by this trailer.
I'm actually very excited for the show now.
Yeah.
There is one detail that someone pointed out in the trailer where he's like driving this
truck and like is holding this gun and he like freaks out and drops it.
But behind his his seat, you can see the the letters Von D. But then the rest is blocked
off by the chair.
And so everyone's just like, oh, my gosh, it's Victor Von Doom, like flipping out.
And so I was paying attention to that.
And I was just like, there's no way that's real.
That like looks super clean.
And so I saw it, saw that it was real.
And I started freaking out until the next scene where they're in the back of the truck,
where it had like boxes with the exact same letters on it.
But it said like, I couldn't make out what the big word was.
But it was like Von D and then some like really long word.
OK, that started with a D because it's like same font and everything.
So it's I think they're just like toying with us.
Yeah.
I need to watch the new rock stars break down of that because they get into like some major
detail.
Oh, OK.
Like, have you watched their videos?
Like there are some times where they go like frame by frame.
That takes dedication.
Yeah.
And even like with their movie breakdowns, too, they will like even with something that's
like super obvious, like with with Shung Chi, they like they kind of like were like, OK,
this is a list of Easter eggs from from this movie.
And so they like make a whole list.
And one of the things on the list was like, oh, this is Trevor, whatever his face is,
like you guys would recognize him from Iron Man 3.
And like like so like one of those super obvious ones, like they even get into those and they'll
even go to things as like minute as like.
One off lines.
And like, oh, this is an Easter egg to this.
We're like regarding.
Do you?
Yeah, that's it.
Are they getting paid for this?
Because that takes dedication right there.
I think so.
I think there.
I mean, because I mean, you know, if I mean.
I don't know.
I don't think I could be able to break stuff down like bit by bit like that, like screenshot
by screenshot.
I feel just kind of like it probably for me, at least it would start out as fun, but it
would just just get tedious.
Just be a little too much for me.
But if they enjoy it, that's awesome.
They have like a full team of people.
OK, it's like a.
It wouldn't just be like us then.
No, no, it's like it's like a team of people.
OK, OK, so then maybe that OK, then that probably is better than.
Yeah, like they have a merch line that's pretty popular.
They like they have like a bit.
It's a big production.
OK, nice.
That's awesome.
So it's kind of like their full time job.
OK, I love that.
That's yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.
So like I think I could definitely do it if it was like a full time job situation.
Definitely couldn't do it for for fun.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's fair.
But anyway, yeah, I need to watch their their breakdown of this trailer, see if they picked
up on anything that.
I didn't and and they're also like really knowledgeable in the comics.
So it's nice to know like, oh, like how they compare things.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.
Anyway, one out of 10 for excitement level on this, you know, I'm actually I'm actually
I need.
That's about where I'm at, too.
OK, so my like I said, my only complaint with this trailer was that I I've never viewed
Moon Knight as like a supernatural character, which is.
And I only bring that up because in the trailer, his suit just kind of like magically forms
around him.
Yeah.
Like I I've always thought that it's just a suit that he puts on himself.
Like I've never viewed it as like a magical suit.
So I mean, if they can explain that in the series a little bit better, I'd be very happy
with that.
OK.
Like, I think it's just going to be something where they just like.
Take like five minutes to explain it.
Maybe not even that, like 30 seconds like, oh, this is the deal with the suit.
Yeah.
But yeah, if they end up making him like super more supernatural, like I'm cool with that.
I don't care.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm sitting at an eight to.
I just want to throw in one thing really quickly, because I don't know if you've seen the trailer
and like you never I think we already talked about it when the first trailer came out.
It's really hard to talk about trailers for these movies, but they did release the final
trailer for Jackass forever.
I don't know if you saw it.
I did.
You did.
Awesome.
I mean, yeah, there's like really nothing to talk about with it because, you know, it's
just like them, you know, like performing stunts and everything.
But it is nice to know that they've like say in the trailer, they're just like, we made
you wait and wait and wait.
And now the wait is finally over because it is finally coming out on February 4th.
So I'm freaking excited.
I don't know.
Can we even break down a Jackass movie on this podcast?
Very hard.
It'd be so difficult.
I think honestly, I feel like maybe because I don't know if you're going to go see this
in theaters.
Maybe like it's going to.
Okay, this is probably what I'll do.
If if you go see this movie, I'm assuming you're going to go see it.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
Okay.
If you go see it and can think of a way for us to break it down, like with our breakdown
system, because the only things I can even begin to think about like like story would
be like a no go.
Writing I writing would be a tough sell.
Actually, it's literally nothing is a no go.
Like it's genuine reaction.
So it's not really acting, dude.
Probably the only writing in these movies is when it's like scripted for them to say,
I'm so and so and this is, you know, this.
So that's that's just going to be a complete and utter joke.
We even attempt to be like critiquing the writing of Jackass.
Same thing with acting.
There is absolutely zero character development because they're still stupid.
I guess we could maybe do effects.
That's what I was thinking.
Like, how's the stunt work?
Well, it's not even stunt work.
It's just you're hurting each other.
So I mean, I guess we can do that.
I mean, for that, I feel considering that they do it all themselves.
That's like a ten, right?
I know, but that's not fun.
Music would be a tough sell.
Well, maybe like I think there is some actual bangers in the Jackass movies.
OK, so music, I guess we could do costumes.
I do.
You could totally.
You could totally do costumes for John and Oxfiel has worn and Chris Pontius, especially
the costumes that Chris Pontius has put on his penis.
What the shit?
Oh, geez.
So if it comes down to it, you know, we can always just share our quick reaction or our
quick thoughts on another video or another.
I mean, we can always make it a bonus episode.
That's true.
Shooting the shit about it.
Yeah, dude, I'm down.
Yeah, that would actually be really fun.
We'll just call our our Jackass not break down.
I love it.
But yeah, so if you guys want to go see Jackass forever, that's coming to theaters February
4th.
Yeah, I think that's only theater is exclusive.
It's not going to be on Paramount Plus as well.
If a lame.
I mean, it might move to it shortly after.
I hear that's what Scream is probably going to do.
I don't know how long, but it probably will come to Paramount Plus sooner or later.
So I don't know if you want to wait.
I'll wait to see if they release like a date.
OK.
But yeah, because we're not going to do Scream for a couple of weeks.
Yeah, that's true.
So but anyway, moving on to the trailer that we actually can talk about the other trailer,
we got our first trailer for the Bob's Burgers movie and I still find it freaking hilarious.
I'm sorry that Bob's Burgers got a movie before Family Guy.
Well we don't even know if like the Family Guy crew want to do a movie.
OK, you know, fair enough.
I mean, honestly, after the Simpsons movie came out, I thought they were going to be
like, OK, now we got to do a movie.
We got to one up the Simpsons.
Yeah.
I mean, I do kind of appreciate that Family Guy hasn't done a movie because like you got
to think like Simpsons did a movie, South Park's done a movie.
Now Bob's Burgers is doing a movie like it just kind of.
Yeah.
And also Beavis and Butthead also did a movie.
Yeah.
So it's just kind of like I don't want to say it cheapens the show at all because it
like.
I see I would because it doesn't.
I mean, I can't speak for Bob's Burgers, but I feel the Simpsons movie, the movie actually
like brought it back to like, don't get me wrong, like during that time, the show was
still good, but it brought back, brought you back to when the show was at its like most
best because I think some of the writers that had left the show actually came back to work
on the movie.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
OK.
So, yeah, I'll I'll I'll agree with you on that.
So maybe it doesn't like cheapen it, but it just.
I don't know.
I think there's just a lot of effort that goes behind that.
That's very maybe the Family Guy crew just doesn't quite have a story that they would
want to do.
Yeah, I would definitely say that Family Guy is a lot harder to turn into a movie than
say the Simpsons or even Bob's Burgers.
Well, I'm surprised the Simpsons even did it.
And so gracefully, like, oh, my God.
Yeah, like that.
It's odd because movies like that and that is kind of what I'm afraid of, of this becoming.
Like the the movies become.
Super long episodes.
Fair enough.
I mean, the the stakes were definitely raised in the Simpsons movie.
So at least there was that.
Well, I think like South Park.
I.
I think South Park did it right.
Like they had a story that like lasted them the entirety of the movie and like one that
was like pretty solid.
But instead of it just being like a full episode, like a whole super long episode of South Park,
like the Simpsons movie, which the Simpsons movie easily could have been like you could
turn that into like a two three parter.
Special if you wanted to.
Fair, but I just love the movie so much.
Yeah, I mean, I like it, too.
But that's why I'm like why I'm saying like you could easily turn it into like three different
episodes or two.
I would actually love.
Whatever the hell you wanted to do with it.
I really want to see if anyone actually wants to argue, Caleb, be like, no, no, no, no,
no.
It had to be a movie.
Because I can't like I don't know.
I can't.
This all day long.
But listen, the reason that I'm giving South Park props over Simpsons is because South Park
threw something in that we don't normally see from South Park.
And that's musicals.
That's true.
But the Simpsons movie did also throw in Bart's penis.
I completely forgot about that.
OK, cool.
I was saying you can't you can't show that on TV.
So they did.
OK, so they did one thing that they wouldn't have done in the show.
Like South Park took it a step further and did something that they could just not do
on on a normal episode.
Like they could not do a frickin full blown musical production like they did in the movie.
Awful.
So it's like they added something to it.
That's true.
I still can't get what would Brian Botano do out of my head.
That's a super catchy song.
Yeah, I don't even know who the hell Brian Botano is.
I don't either.
I think he's a figure skater.
Like that's yeah.
That's what I feel South Park had over.
The Simpsons over Simpsons.
Yeah.
And I I would say like, oh, if they just throw in some like music for Bob's Burgers.
Like, but that doesn't work out because they do a song like it feels like every other episode.
It's true.
Just give Linda her own musical.
Yeah.
So it's going to be interesting to see what they do with this.
I hope that it feels like it needed to be a movie and it does feel like one like, oh,
we could have split this into two parts.
Yeah.
I mean, this is the teaser trailer.
At least I think that's what they called it.
So really, you don't get a lot of the story.
Literally, the only story plot that you get is that Linda took Jean's burger outfit that
he usually wears in front of the bar in front of the restaurant and cut off like the bottom
of the bun to where she can put a bathing suit over it because she's like sexy South
Bob.
And so she's like standing out in front of the boardwalks and she's like sexy bugger,
sexy bugger has come to Bob's burger.
That was a horrible Linda impression, by the way.
Kudos to anyone besides the actual voice actor himself.
Kudos to anyone that can actually do Linda's voice because you are freaking awesome and
amazing.
But yeah, that's really the only story plot that we got and how Bob hated it.
But Teddy's just like, yeah, I got no arguments.
Let's go for it, Linda.
Yeah.
I mean, I have high hopes for this.
Oh, I do, too.
But I mean, I'm still.
Expectations are also like pretty high because if they just do what Simpsons did and basically
just release an episode like a super long episode of Bob's burger with like one thing
that they couldn't put in the actual show.
Like that.
Yeah, I'll be just imagine it's Louise saying the F word.
That's what they couldn't say because they are allowed one F word in a PG-13 film.
And I just feel she would be the one character that they would want to say it.
Very true.
Biggest shock would be if Tina said it.
That would be hilarious.
That would be very funny.
That would actually be worth it.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, if Tina said it.
Oh yeah, that'd be great.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm going to go see this.
Oh yeah.
It's super fun and we're definitely breaking it down.
Oh yeah.
I feel like I'm like I think I'm like two or three seasons behind.
So I definitely got a catch.
Are you really like?
Yeah.
All caught up.
Dude, that's freaking awesome.
Yeah, I'm caught up on that and I'm caught up on the.
I want to say cousin show.
Of the Great North.
Oh, I've never seen that show.
Is it good?
That's all right.
I mean, it's not it's not Bob's Burgers.
OK, like it has its own charm to it.
OK, but it's it's it's harder for me to want to watch one of those episodes.
Like it's harder for me to be like, oh, I really want to go sit down and watch.
The Great North.
Versus how I feel like watching Bob's Burgers.
Like I'm super excited to watch Bob's Burgers.
Oh, yeah.
And then I usually put like the Great North on hold for a few.
Dude, honestly, the Belcher family is like the rare family that I would actually like
rank super close to the Simpsons for animated families that I love.
Like they might be tied.
I'll give you that.
Like it's just maybe the Simpsons have like what?
Animated families in general or adult animation.
Let's say adult.
Well, I don't know.
Let's just say adult animation in general.
Then I can definitely give you that.
OK.
Like animated families overall, like I'm like, yeah, they're I mean, they might crack my
top five.
Who's your number one?
I'm actually very interested.
You're going to put me on the spot like that.
I mean, I feel honestly, the Belcher's will be number two.
The Simpsons probably would be number one for me, but I don't know what three, four
and five would be.
I don't even know.
I can't think of like you just put me on the spot and I'm sorry.
I can't think of anything.
I'll text it to you after.
OK, cool.
Sounds good.
OK, sounds good.
Anyway, all right.
Excitement level.
I'll say I'm about a seven.
Oh, yeah.
I'm just I I'm going to go see this.
Yeah.
But it's just I need a reason to be excited for it.
That's fair.
I mean, dude, honestly, I feel because this was announced, I think, like back in like
two years ago, I think it was like the first time I've ever seen a movie.
I mean, I'm not sure.
Yeah. Oh, man.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah.
Just for those of you who don't know,
I'm the lead vocalist for the band.
But yeah, my mom is a huge fan.
At least I think like last time I checked, like she was like she was docking them up like, oh, my gosh, I love you, too.
And I love you, too.
I love you, too.
Yeah.
I felt like I felt like they had a really good place that they left off with the success of the Moon Theater.
Yes. And then just kind of like running with that.
Yeah. And what I love, just like the first one, each character has their own subplot.
I mean, they're all, you know, of course, into the main story, but they all still have their own little subplot.
And I feel all of them really, what's the word, developed the characters even more.
I feel especially Johnny's.
I feel Johnny's was really good with his dance coach, Klaus, and like how during the final performance,
when he knocks Johnny on his back and he's just like, you'll never be great.
And Johnny's able to show him, be like, hey, bitch, what did you think?
What did you think? I am great, asshole.
Yeah. It's just like that that perseverance is like really inspiring because that's like what more or less that's kind of what his deal was in the first movie.
Just like persevering through the deal that he was struggling with his father and being part of a gang or a criminal organization.
Like that was. Speaking of that.
And then. Sorry, no, really quick. Okay. So if they say this takes place a month after, right?
Yeah. How in the hell is his dad already out of prison?
Well, I mean, robbery isn't that big of a deal. But a month.
I would get if it was a couple of years, but a month. I know thinking about it, he did kind of escape from jail.
Yes. I rack up a couple more charges. Yeah.
Maybe like a month seems like. Really? Like a big stretch?
Yeah, I don't know. I feel that the Wikipedia stories.
Or maybe like prison reform is different in the animal world.
I mean, it might, but I don't know. Do you feel the Wikipedia is like because it's never really said when how what the time gap between Sing and Sing 2 is.
Yeah. I feel like a month is too soon.
I felt it was too soon as well. Like the way that I viewed it was like a year or two.
Yeah, considering that like because at the opening that they're putting on Alice in Wonderland and I swear when they're talking,
him and Nana Noodleman, they're just like, oh, yeah, you know, your shows are always great from what you've been able to put on with your new cast.
Okay. So if we're setting it up being like a couple of years after the first one, that makes absolute sense. There's no way you can put put on many shows after just a month.
Yeah, impossible. So I'm going to go against Wikipedia and say that this has got to take place at least a year or a couple of years after.
Yeah, that would that would definitely kind of improve everything.
At least timeline wise, because yeah, like I remember that conversation to talking about all the shows and and whatnot.
And yeah, because how long do you do like theater shows like that go for?
Like they usually go for like a month, like a couple of months, right?
It kind of depends on how big the theater is. Sometimes it will only run for a couple of weeks, but sometimes it will go for a couple of months.
It kind of just depends. OK, with Moon for considering how technically big his theater is in the the city now, I'm sure it probably has to be at least a month that these shows go for.
OK. I mean, so like, bare minimum, like you could say it's like six months.
But even that just doesn't seem like. Yeah. Oh, you don't mean like the show goes for six months, right?
No, like, OK, like that's how much longer or OK.
Or I was going to say, yes, six months is usually only like a Broadway show running.
Yeah. Anyway. I mean, that that definitely doesn't have anything to do with the story.
Hey, that's just us trying to like justify like the.
The dad being out of prison. Yeah.
Yeah, he was down for or he got out for good behavior and was doing community service and whatnot.
Anyway.
The rest of this story was like was really solid, like Buster or yeah, Buster Moon, just like believing in his his vision and his team and being able to like it's just kind of like
seeing the potential that they have
and knowing what they can accomplish. And that's like what what works so well with this story, like
seeing how hard he was pushing in the first movie to obtain his dream of just owning a decent theater.
Like a successful theater and then getting that and being like, we can go so much bigger than this and being like, we can be like, we can be part of the big city
and like do do
performances there that people will like absolutely love.
Did you have no idea how grateful I am that they didn't turn this into a oh after the first one after their show on the first one they disbanded and now it's a they have to get the band back together again to do one.
Yeah, I mean, they so there is one person that we what I said basically do the country bears. Yeah, serious.
Because there is one character, Ash does go her separate way.
But that's just because she kind of starts her own music career. But once Buster you know approaches her about coming back for the show she's all in she doesn't question it. She's like, yeah, I'm there.
Yeah, I think she would have questioned it had the the owner that club treated her a bit more fairly.
Which I loved seeing like that was such a great scene. Such a badass.
Yeah, I mean, but Scarlett Johansson voicing her so I mean you kind of got to make her badass.
I'll give you that.
Yeah, I think they did such a good job at like sharing everyone's story like you said with Johnny struggling with struggling with like maybe the self confidence.
Yeah, self to be like a good dancer or Rosita is kind of Rosito.
I felt like maybe if anything, her story was brought down a little bit because she didn't really like deal with her shit that well.
Yeah, which it sucks because I mean I love them all but like Rosita is definitely up there for me because I loved what they did with her character in the first one.
And for the most part I did like what I loved what they did with her and this one as well. But yeah, I definitely agree with you out of like out of all the characters her storyline was definitely the one that kind of got sidelined a little bit.
Yeah, so Buster's entire like idea for this big city performance.
It kind of encircled around Rosita being the main character of the play.
Or is it a play? Is that what they refer to it as? I think so. I don't know if they ever called it a musical.
Okay. So yeah, like she was the main character of this play and she had to do this like high dive jump or like just she basically had to do this high dive shit.
Yeah, which was just insane.
But she has the fear of heights like we said and then Portia, what's his name? Crystal's daughter ends up showing that she's like super good at doing like the high jump stuff and singing and but she just can't act worth a shit.
And so when Buster's like okay, like you need to step aside so we can like get someone in that's actually like good at acting she like has this big old meltdown and then Buster's just like, oh Rosita you're back.
You're back in. So she doesn't really have like a big old story to deal with like Johnny does. Yeah, I feel like she's very prominent at the at the beginning.
But for the middle, you don't really get a lot of her but then towards the ending is when they start to pick up again with Rosita storyline.
Yeah.
Shit, what's her name. Oh, Mina.
Oh yeah.
I think that her story also kind of got a little
sidelined in a way. Yeah, I mean I like the love story for her. It worked well. Like I thought that worked really well and I'm really glad that they replaced the bull.
Yeah, I find him. Honestly I actually wish that the guy what was his name.
I think it was a Raoul Williams character. Oh Alfonso Alfonso. I honestly wish that like he was actually just comfortable to get on the stage with her and actually just be.
I felt like that would have been weird too much. Yeah. Okay.
Like I think it was enough for her to just imagine that it was him.
All right. Okay. Fair enough.
But I really liked her story.
And yeah like when it came to Rosita it was just kind of another like sidelined character like oh you.
You kind of go and like oh like let's see what this like little fun. It was more like light hearted it didn't really have any like deep story depth.
Yeah. So I mean it was, it was fine overall.
How do you feel about Ashes?
Ashes was really good. Like even though she did like herself didn't have like a good like a decent personal story.
She did help Clay kind of with his like help him start to heal from his trauma because he lost his wife 15 years ago hadn't performed since hadn't even listened to his music since then.
And so like she I think she helped him through a lot of healing.
And so she was just kind of like the emotional shaman for Clay to bring him into the group.
Yeah. Yeah I think that's a perfect way to explain her.
Yeah. So I think like story wise like I don't think she brought it down any.
Like my big problems story wise are with Mina and Rosita.
Yeah I can definitely agree with that.
Try to think overall.
I mean did you like the villain of the.
He seemed a bit much.
Like threatening to throw someone off the roof.
Yeah like god damn.
Like and actually trying to do it. I think that's what got me.
Did I think you know what I got to give.
I felt like I got to give illumination like pro for like actually like showing that he was actually ready to kill Buster Moon like he straight up.
Like he. So there's this like for those of you who haven't seen it freaking.
Crystal and Moon are in this meeting and then Moons like or Crystal says oh you screwed me over.
He grabs Buster takes him outside and then like gets a phone call.
And then he's just like OK I just got this thing to deal with and like opens his fist.
I flipped out and then Buster's doing freaking koala shit and grabbing on to his arm.
And then he's like I'll deal with you later throws him in a closet and I'm like what the hell.
This got a little too murdery for me.
Dude that's fair and like honestly and during the performance he actually does throw Buster from a height that.
Yeah if Rosita wouldn't have caught him yeah Buster would have been dead.
Yeah I think that was just.
Like it was a good character moment for Rosita don't get me wrong but I don't know I feel.
Just from the height that he threw him like parents are going to have to have talks with kids just being like yeah.
How you deal with your problems.
Don't throw people off high places because yeah Buster would have absolutely died from that from.
Like right like he wouldn't have just broken some bones.
No he would have freaking died.
Yeah yeah that was really freaking high.
I just.
I'm trying to think of what else they could have done but.
Could they have done anything.
I don't know because I mean like I'll give them props though.
Like okay this is probably what I would have done to make.
To make Mr.
Crystal not so freaking scary.
I would have had him continue to do the I will throw you off the roof thing.
Threaten to throw him off the roof.
And like maybe hold him over the balcony and whatnot but never actually.
Do it.
Yeah.
And then just gave Rosita a bit more time to deal with her fear of heights.
Like show that she's struggling in this quote unquote new role that Buster created for her.
And have her like.
In the off her off time go and like.
Conquer her fear of heights.
And so when it finally comes down to it where they're like oh Rosita we need you to do this.
Then she's like worked past it.
And then maybe has like a quick little like.
Moment at the end and then she like does the jump like jump.
Just something where you didn't have to freaking motivate her with potential death.
And then like had.
I don't know maybe like had the whole crystal and Buster situation happen later in it during the play and then have.
Clay Calloway come out and then missed or then crystal was just like whoa.
Like has that big old like realization like oh look at what Buster just accomplished.
And then at the end try to take credit and everyone's like deuces like just.
Okay.
Exact same story minor tweaks.
Yeah.
Just eliminate the murder.
This is a children's show or a children's movie.
I get it's rated PG not G but still.
At least I think it's rated PG.
Good question.
Because there is no way that this is rated G if that's how.
Yeah.
Yeah there's no freaking way.
Like absolutely no way that this is rated G.
I would be genuinely shocked.
It would be really nice if they just like told me.
Whenever I pull up rating they're just like oh you mean like the movies.
There we go.
Okay.
Yeah.
This thing too.
I wish that they would tell you why it's rated PG.
I'll bet you in like the IMDb IMDb like parents guide they're just like yeah they imply that Buster Moon could die if no one catched him.
It is rated PG for some rude material and mild peril slash violence.
That is way more than mild.
Are you on IMDb?
No I'm just on Google.
Oh.
Okay wait.
IMDb you can click on the rating and it'll tell you why.
So looking through that Google section it actually does say the movie is set a year after the events of Sing.
Ah we freaking nailed it.
Yeah.
Completely on accident but we nailed it.
Yeah.
That makes so much more sense than a month.
A month doesn't make any sense.
Yeah for real.
Overall like the story was good.
Like I said there were definite improvements that could have been had with Rosita.
Mina was was decent but like decent enough like she was in it enough for you to not forget that she was in it.
Yeah.
I forget there was one character I forget who that I can pull like I kept forgetting that she was in it.
Oh is it Miss Crowley?
No Miss it might have been Mina.
Like I'm trying to think and I'm just like every time she was on screen I'm just like oh yeah.
That's funny.
Where are you at with the story?
I would say I'm at a I would say an 81.
81?
Yeah.
I might be a little bit higher.
I think I'm going to I'm sitting at an 83 with the story.
Alrighty that averages us out to an 82 for story.
Perfect.
Next up we got writing which I felt the writing was super solid.
Yeah.
Yeah I really don't have a lot of things wrong with the writing.
Yeah all that like there was such little wasted dialogue I felt.
I think I think any dialogue I didn't like was with extras.
See that's fair.
And like even like dialogue that's like passed off as like a joke like like really I feel really worked well when like it might not have when.
Oh my god what's his name though I think it was a walrus I don't remember his.
Oh yeah.
Nick Offerman's character.
Yep did I just say Nick Offerman?
Yeah Norm.
Norman.
Norman how he's literally shouting to everybody.
Hey guys we got to pack it up he still doesn't know exactly how the show's gonna look even though he only has three weeks.
Yeah you heard him we can't finish the set until tomorrow or maybe even the next day.
Like it should be stupid wasted dialogue like that that I feel shouldn't work but it actually did work.
Yeah I think that was actually one of the scenes that came into mind where I'm like whatever like take it or leave it.
Yeah I mean I wasn't laughing my ass off I giggled.
Yeah it was like a chuckle.
Yeah.
Geez all my like favorite lines came from Gunter.
Yeah that's fair.
Frickin him and when him and Buster like coming up with the script for Gunter's show is frickin amazing.
How Buster was able to actually translate that into actual script writing is amazing.
Yeah I know.
Gunter and Miss Crawley were definitely my two favorite characters and they were like the comedic relief for this whole thing.
Yeah they were exactly the same as they were in the first one and I think that's perfect they shouldn't have changed their characters.
Yeah so I love that.
One thing I was kind of surprised well nevermind nevermind this is like completely unrelated.
I'm looking through the cast list to see if there was like anyone else.
Is Seth MacFarlane still listed in this movie even though Mike is not in this film?
Not if you're on IMDB.
Okay.
If you look it up on Google then yes he is still credited as Mike.
That's frickin hilarious yeah if anyone Googles Sing Toon yeah if you see Seth MacFarlane as Mike on it he's not in the movie.
He just has the Mike does not return.
So either he just decided screw you guys after seeing Sing or maybe he actually did die from that bear that climbed onto his car at the end of the first film.
We don't know.
You would accept that as canon.
Yes.
Okay I love it.
Geez they have like a shit ton of additional voice work.
Yeah like like I said very very few problems overall with the writing all my my issues were with were with extras.
All main characters I felt like all of their dialogue was was well used.
Yeah, especially for me once again with how I felt Buster's writing in the first film was great.
I feel was even better in this one.
Such good writing for Buster.
I felt like Rosita's again like if you would have made the improvements to Rosita's story. I think that her writing would have been on point, but I think the only reason I would even consider her writing to be lower than her overall story was just because she was kind of sidelined for a majority of the movie.
Which sucked because honestly.
I'm not going to dock for that like at all.
Like it's just something that I would have liked improvement on.
That's right because like honestly out of the out of the whole like group of characters from the first movie that like whole ensemble. I don't dislike any of them. I think all of them are really good characters.
Yeah, I think they definitely kept the interesting characters.
Yeah, that's fair.
I think they.
I like that they kind of cleaned up house a little bit and got rid of some of the characters that didn't work like Mike.
Yeah, nothing against. I mean Southman Farron is actually a very good voice artist.
He's an amazing voice actor.
I would have liked to see him in a different role. Yeah, because like yeah Mike Mike is never redeemed.
He's just an asshole through and through and the first thing.
Yeah, no joke.
So maybe that's actually why I like this movie a little better because Mike's nowhere to be seen.
Oh shit.
Too bad we didn't grade the first one to compare.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be cool.
I'm actually going to be I'm actually going higher on my writing grade.
I think I'm late too.
And I'm trying to think of just like how much higher because like I said, very, very few problems.
So I think I'm going to go I think we go to an 86.
Okay.
I lied. I'm going 87.
You know what? I'll go with your previous score just because everything that we said and I feel the biggest writing point that I can point out is just how much I love
the writing for Buster Mimmon of how much it wasn't improved.
It was still great compared to the first one.
But if not better in this one.
Yeah.
All right. So that averages is out to an 86.5.
Moving on over to acting.
We have Tori Kelly, who played Mina Reese Witherspoon, who played Rosita.
Taryn Egerton, who played Johnny.
Nick Kroll, who played Gunter.
Matthew McConaughey, who played Buster Moon.
Garth Jennings, who also wrote and directed this movie, who played Miss Crawley.
That's awesome.
That's hilarious.
We had Chelsea Peretti, who voiced Suki.
Scarlett Johansson, who voiced Ash.
Bobby Cannavale or Cannaval, however you want to say that, who voiced Mr. Crystal.
Who else?
Halsey, who voiced Portia Crystal.
Eric Andre, who voiced Darius.
Letitia Wright, who played Nushi.
Bono, who voiced Clay Calloway.
And then Pharrell Williams, who voiced Alfonso.
So pretty star-studded.
Yeah. God damn.
And they all did a fantastic job.
Oh yeah.
I will say this. I had such a hard time placing Bobby Cannavale as Mr. Crystal.
I didn't even know who that was.
Do you know who it is?
What is he?
You would recognize this. Oh, he is...
Shit. What's her name?
Oh, he's Cassie's stepdad from Ant-Man.
No. That's him?
Yep.
Oh my God.
But he's so...
Yeah, him and Scott don't have a great relationship, right?
He kind of hates him.
In the first one. In the second one.
Yeah, okay. So yeah, I guess him being kind of an asshole in this one kind of played...
Well, he usually plays an asshole.
He plays it very good, so keep going.
Did you ever watch Paul Blart?
Yeah. Who did he play?
He was the FBI... or not FBI, the SWAT captain.
Oh my God, yeah!
Yeah, because he's just like... yeah, because him and Paul went to high school together, right?
Yep. He was in a bunch of shit.
Oh my God. I love him in that movie.
But I feel like I'm one of the rare people that love that movie.
The sequel was God-awful. I hate the sequel. But I love the first mall cop.
Yeah, I'm trying to see what other stuff he's been in.
Yeah, he's Ant-Man and the Wasp.
He was... oh, in Jumanji, Welcome to the Jungle.
Oh yeah, he played the main bad guy, right?
Yep.
Okay.
I forget his name.
He does a lot of stuff. Oh, he was in Daddy's Home.
I haven't seen that movie in years.
Yeah, he plays a really good bad guy, but he does comedy really well too.
Yeah.
So it's really interesting to see the range that this guy has.
I thought it was so interesting why it was so hard to pick out his voice.
I had such a hard time with it. He sounds so freaking familiar.
Yeah, that's exactly why.
That is so cool. That's awesome.
Alright, what's your top five?
Number one, definitely Matthew McConaughey as Buster Moon.
Buster Moon has been my favorite since the first one,
and he once again delivered with his voice in this movie.
Number two, I would probably give to Taron Hedgerton as Johnny.
I thought he did a great job.
Same here.
Hey, awesome.
So our top two is the exact same so far.
Number three, he's a top five, right?
Yeah.
Okay. Number three, I don't know for me just because I loved him as a villain.
What's that guy's name?
Bobby Cannaville.
Bobby Cannaville? I would actually put him as number three.
I would have personally given it to Reese Witherspoon as Rosita.
I would give her number four.
Yeah, and then I was actually going to give Bobby Cannaville my number four.
Oh, dude. Okay, let's see if we get number five exact.
I pretty sure we will.
Oh, I don't even.
Honestly, I actually want to say, like, oh my God, what is her name?
Who played Portia?
Halsey? Halsey.
I might actually give her my number five because I feel she did such a great job playing a real bitchy teenager.
But then she came around.
Oh, okay. I was not expecting that.
I was actually going to give it to Scarlett for my number five.
That's a good choice.
Halsey, that is a really good choice.
I don't know if she's done voice work before.
I'm going to look.
She can freaking sing though.
Like, God damn, she owned her number.
Yeah, well, she sings like that's what I know.
I know, but I'm just saying like that number, especially she really owned.
Yeah, she's okay.
She's done some voice work, but it's all playing herself.
Oh, okay. So, okay.
Well, you know what?
This is a great start for playing a different character than yourself.
Yeah, like there's okay.
It's like mostly music videos.
Then, yeah, so there's one where she played like a Queen Lila.
It's all this year or last year.
Oh, cool.
Where she played Queen Lila or Lilith in If I Can't Have Love, I Want Power.
And then, yeah, did the voice for Portia for Sing To.
So she has not done a lot of voice work.
Well, I hope she gets more because I'm very impressed.
She did an amazing job.
Just kind of playing that spoiled brat character.
Yeah.
Like she did amazing.
I probably shouldn't have called her a spoiled bitch.
She's only like a teenager.
Let's stick with spoiled brat, sorry.
Fair enough.
But yeah, she killed it.
Now that you bring it up, for a character that we're supposed to dislike,
she was pretty much destroyed.
Yeah.
And she did a great job also of like portraying it to where she couldn't act.
That was very good.
Yeah.
Yeah, she did a really good job with that.
Ooh.
Overall, I was pretty impressed with everyone's performance.
Yeah, there really wasn't any performance that I'm just like, it was all right.
Everyone, I feel, brought their A-game to even if it was a minor role.
Yeah, I think like my issues, again, like same with writing, were extras.
Yeah, okay, that's fair.
So I think considering that, I think I'm like maybe 91.
I'm going to go 92.
Nice.
So that averages us out to a 91.5.
All right, moving on over to character development, which I think we both did Buster Moon.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that's like a gimme.
Yeah, because I mean, even in the first one, I feel he still had the best character development.
These movies are definitely, yeah.
These movies are definitely, he's the main focus.
Yeah.
I think with this, I think there was like a big internal struggle between knowing if he was doing something for himself or doing something for his crew.
Okay, yeah, I can agree with that.
Yeah, and I felt like they pulled that off like super well.
Like Matthew McConaughey just like killed it, but it's just promising all of these big majestic things on such a time crunch as well.
And being just being able to pull it off with the help of his team and kind of having that understanding that that's what he was doing.
And it was just like super nice, like just to see how much he believed in his crew, and he was trying so hard not to involve them in any of like the crazy shit that was happening behind the scenes, which was really nice until it came down to like, oh, he's going to kill us.
So I really dug that about his character.
Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
I love that they continued his character growth from the first one into this one.
How, after the first one he was finally able to make his theater successful. And after that he just he just kept thinking bigger he's just like okay well now that my locally owned theater is doing well. What if I try to, you know, step it up like go to like the Las Vegas of this.
Oh my god, this, this, this world with.
Wait, what, like the world. Yeah, yeah, this with a red shore city.
Because, I mean that wouldn't be considered Broadway, but it's still like, it's definitely a step up from just like local stage theater.
Yeah, I think that's definitely like Vegas level.
Yeah, and then at the end of the movie he basically is able to move he the show that that he puts together throughout the whole movie actually like someone turns out they actually love it.
And so they want him to bring it to their theater which basically is I feel the Broadway version of their world.
Or would you say like maybe like a step closer to it. I think that's like a classier Vegas.
Okay, they go from like the, the, the bright and shiny area of Vegas to like the high end fancy.
Okay, that's fair. So they're like, it's just they go from like one upscale to another. Yeah, but I was in the end it's still Vegas.
Yeah, that's true. I feel like broad, like the whole Broadway thing that probably would have been a really decent step up from like local theater, and then from Broadway to Vegas.
Like it's just, I think it's so hard, it will be so hard if they even decide to continue this, this story. It'd be hard for them to continue on or scale up. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know I thinking about it I feel that it would be perfect if they just kept it at two films, because.
Yeah, I mean if they have the story for a third, like, I definitely want to see it. Yeah. Oh yeah, same here. I'm not going to be too heartbroken if they don't know same here because honestly the same thing is the only franchise that I give two shits about with
illumination sing was the only movie from illumination that I kept going back to because I just enjoyed it that much I could get Despicable Me I feel is a very good first movie, but leading into Despicable Me to just spreading out on the minions just I feel
ruins it for me I find the minions annoying as hell now. Um, so that just killed that franchise for me so I feel seeing is their only good one left. And both movies deliver solid solid stories and so this is the only franchise that I care about from illumination.
And if they just want to keep it at two, that's perfect. They did a perfect job wrapping this one up but if they do have a good storyline like Caleb said, then by all means bring on seeing three.
Yeah, I'm looking at a list of their, their films.
And yeah, like they do not have a great like of illuminations films, and they do not have a super great track record.
The only one that I have even a little bit of hope for.
It's going to be the, the Mario movie.
Yeah, that's fair.
Because the only other movie that they have slated for 2022 is the rise of grew.
I could give two shits about. Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I got sing to, I'm happy.
Yeah.
But yeah, like we were talking about with Buster, it's.
I think they left him in a, in a pretty decent place.
If they wanted to, it's, they, I don't feel like they quite shut the door.
But they definitely didn't leave much of an opening.
Yeah, which is like more they left the door unlocked.
Yeah, and I feel that's perfect. I feel that's how you definitely should end the sequel that if this is all that we want to do, then we did what we needed to do but if we still want to come back.
There is a way to come back.
Yeah.
I actually feel like this Siri or the show or not.
This show. This movie would make for some really decent shorts.
Okay, I think that'd be a good way for them to continue and be like oh, like if they wanted to just bring in like random bands or whatever to to do songs or.
Yeah, like different singers or different whatever, like it'd be a good way for them to do like a good 1015 minute little song short.
Like I wouldn't mind seeing those.
Yeah, I don't see what neither.
I mean I would just be afraid that like.
Yeah, I mean, but I mean with the shorts I'd be kind of afraid that it would start going into like minion territory.
Might be a little too much.
A little bit.
I just don't want saying to be like over fluctuated.
I guess is the word.
I don't know just I don't want thing to be to become anything like this.
Wait, what to get the minions tree. Yeah, I don't want it to become anything like the Despicable Me franchise.
It's the only franchise that to the illumination has that has been super solid for both films and I don't want anything to room that.
Honestly, that's I feel like that's a reasonable request.
So yeah.
Well, hopefully it doesn't come down to that.
Watch now that we said that they're just like, like, here you guys go.
Yeah, I mean, it weren't going to get blamed for that.
All right. Where are you sitting now with character development?
Just for how much I love his character development both in this movie, because I feel you need to compare it to the first movie as well because I feel it's an ongoing growth of a character of him wanting to just keep going and establishing great shows and just keeping his.
I don't want to say brand, but I'm just showcasing how good of a.
A I guess like director stage director he can be how good he is at putting together shows.
So I'm actually going pretty high. I'm going to go at 90.
Wow.
Yeah, I.
I'm not quite at that point.
I think I'm more at like an 87.
But like you said, you kind of have to include the first movie into this and.
It just kind of showed.
Like it just kind of continued on like Buster's attitude about getting things done. Yeah, and like in the footwork like with the first one that he was putting a lot of his own.
He was putting his own reputation on the line.
And then.
It was kind of the same with this. He was putting his reputation on the line, but then it was also kind of like up the ante by like making you realize, oh, he also kind of put his life on this line.
Yeah, it's just kind of like one of those things that he was like very unintentional about.
Like I don't think that he was just like, oh yeah, I'm going to put my life on the line for this. Like he was just it was just kind of something like forced upon him and like you could tell throughout.
It's like, oh, like his nervous laugh was it is just hilarious to me.
It is.
It really is.
But yeah, like it's just like I said, it was just took what was working about the first one and just bumped it up. Yep. Just like by a hair and.
Yeah, and I was, I was pretty impressed. Just some issues like here and there with the.
Overarching themes. No, that's fair, but nothing, nothing too bad to say, especially when it comes to like the development of Buster.
Yeah, like I think they took him in a very natural direction.
So, yeah, I'm going to say that in 87.
And that brings us to an eighty eight point five.
All right. Next up, we got effects, which with this is just going to be like animation or what we thought of the.
Yeah.
It's just as good as the first one.
I don't know if I really like saw like really any like huge differences. I mean, I mean, I'm sure it's like definitely like upgraded at least a little bit.
But I feel the character still looks great. I don't like nothing. It's illumination.
But I mean, it's their animation. It's definitely not Disney. It's definitely not Pixar, but it's still very good.
Oh, yeah. It's super good.
I think one of the things I was I think I told said this to you as soon as we came out.
Like what I really appreciate about this is that even though seeing seeing came out.
Like years before this movie, they feel like they came out in the same year or the same time.
Yeah, like this one wasn't like, oh, the animation is just infinitely better or or anything like that.
It felt perfectly in line. It's nothing like the Toy Story films.
Yeah, like toys. Well, that one, like I can give a little bit of leeway to.
Yeah, because I mean, hell, even like early 2000s animation to like late.
Because no, it's crazy because like the first one is ninety five.
The second one is ninety nine and then the third jumps all the way to 2010 and then the fourth one to 2019.
So even there's like I feel a huge difference between Toy Story three and Toy Story four.
But you can tell the difference.
I'd have to go back and rewatch Toy Story three, but yeah, it's I mean, it's definitely not as huge as like Toy Story two and Toy Story three.
Oh, my gosh, that is a huge jump. Yeah.
But yeah, it's I really appreciate that they kept the animation on that same level.
Yeah. And I don't know if that's just elimination, not not improving their their animation techniques at all.
Or if that's just like if that was planned, hopefully it was planned.
I hope I mean, because yeah, it looked great.
Yeah, like I feel like years down the line when I'm showing my kids this movie again.
It's not a plan on having more than Iris.
I'm just kidding. Well, yeah, I know.
That's good, man. But I don't feel like they're going to be like, oh, this feels so old or this like it's.
I feel like it's a timeless type of animation.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Like I feel like Toy Story is is eventually and it's getting to that point where that that's going to eventually age out.
Toy Story two isn't quite as bad as the first Toy Story.
No, but I mean, honestly, I feel like it's going to get to a point where they're like, that's old.
Yeah. God, that makes me really sad.
Yeah. I mean, but Iris watches Coco Mellon and Coco Mellon freaking sucks.
So did I'm so sorry. I'm sick of that.
I only know that I only know of Coco Mellon because of freaking tick tock.
The only reason I know of it.
Geez. Yeah, don't just don't.
It's like baby crack.
Oh, God. OK. Is it worse than Baby Shark, though?
Or is it a tie?
It's actually a tie. Baby Shark sucks, too.
I love it. I love it.
I struggled with that one.
Now you're asking the real questions.
Because I have to watch both.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Dude, she has this.
This toll sign, though she has this movie.
It's a baby shark movie with Pink Fong, which is like this little pink fox character.
And she has watched it like 50 million times.
It's the worst. Anyway, I love it.
Before I freaking jump off a cliff to avoid seeing Coco Mellon again.
Get back into the effects.
Overall, like, I'm impressed. I really am, too.
I mean, I'm not super, super high.
I might be at like 83.
Oh, I think I'll go up to 84.
OK.
You know, I'll match on that. Yeah, I'll do 84 as well.
All right. Well, that averages out to an 84.
All right. Moving on over to music.
Freaking killer soundtrack. Yeah.
Like. Holy shit.
I will say I don't know why I might have liked the first one soundtrack slightly more.
A little more give you that one.
I'll give you just because I feel there were more tracks in the first one.
But I feel that they still did pick very, very good songs for this one.
And I don't know what it is literally with this one and the first one, whenever it's Gunter and Rosita's number,
their songs that they choose is just always a banger.
It's a lot of is, dude.
This one was I forget the song, but it's just this is the part where I break free stronger than I've been before.
And then the first one was.
What was it? Shake it off. Yeah, shake it off. Yep.
Yeah, I was really impressed with the.
The the soundtrack on this one.
Unfortunately, I think that it's kind of has the.
When you do have it like a soundtrack like this, where it is like pretty famous songs and just doing covers of it.
Yeah, it's hard for one to stick out.
So I'm actually I'm going pretty high, but it's the reason it's not reaching a 10 is because one song is not standing out above everything else.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
So, hell, honestly, because that I'm probably going to agree with your score. Yeah, nine.
Hell, yeah. I promise I'm not being persuaded.
All right. Well, that rounds us up to a nine.
Moving on over to costumes, which for this movie, we're going to be talking about character design.
I mean, everyone else, everyone looked exactly how they did in the first one.
They did make a lot of well needed adjustments to their outfits.
Yeah, and I've like matched their personalities and in different ways and to kind of match their story.
Like, I really liked.
I really like Mina's outfit during the play.
Oh, yeah, she looked great in that dress. That was awesome.
Yeah. And like in the robe, too, like the yeah, that she was in, like all that stuff looked like super good.
But everyone looked really, really nice.
I was the only complaint that I have.
And this doesn't affect me too much. Like, I think I'm going to go down to maybe an eight for costumes.
And this is just because of Portia and Crystal.
I think they just were a little too lanky.
Even though they were wolves.
I think they just need to be a little bit like stockier.
Like, they kind of have like flamingo looking.
That that's fair, especially Portia for me.
Yeah, like her feet were dinky. Yeah.
Yeah, I think I might agree with you, too. I'm sorry. I promise.
He's not persuading me.
Translating animals into like human movement, I think it is really difficult to do.
It is.
And so I feel bad doing that. It's just I think they could have done it a little bit better.
I mean, it's it's but it's kind of like the same thing with Zootopia.
I'm sure you had some problems with how some of the animals were or did you?
It has been so long since I've seen Zootopia.
But I'm kind of crushed. I'm.
That's one of my favorite Disney movies.
Not that I recall. Like, I don't remember having any issues.
There may have been like one or two.
Awfully mid Zootopia.
They had to have done like a wolf creature in Zootopia.
They did. Yeah, they did. I want to go back and look at them.
Yeah, because it was all of like the oh my God, like the mob bosses, like security guards.
OK, I'm going to go back and look at them.
That probably won't adjust my score any. OK.
Because I think I was leaning more towards a seven than and then.
Then I was leaning towards a nine.
But if I go back to Zootopia and see how they did the the wolves and see if they like resemble the the wolf,
then I will probably change and be like, OK, I'm a more solid eight.
OK, I'm just not quite at a seven level yet.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
All right. So costumes has come to an eight.
Last up, we got our own personal grade.
Do you want me to start?
Well, I can, since you're signing us out.
OK, that's true. I forgot.
All right. For personal score.
I think I'm going I'm I think I'm sitting at an 80.
I had a really decent time with this movie.
I had a lot of fun with it.
Like it impressed me on so many different levels.
I love that it didn't feel so detached in any way from the first movie,
despite being many years apart from each other.
I still can't believe five years.
That's crazy. Yeah.
Like it's it's it's wild.
Like if they made any improvements to the animation,
I did not personally recognize those changes.
Yeah.
And that's that's like right after seeing the first one.
Like I went from the first one to my sister in law's house to sing to like it was like right there.
So yeah, I was super impressed.
Love the soundtrack to this.
So yeah, I compare this like really close to the original or the first one.
And this is probably what I would give the first one to.
So yeah, I'm sitting at an 80.
Nice. For me, I'm going to go a little higher.
I'm going to go an 85.
I loved the sequel.
This to me was just as good, if not slightly better than the first one.
And like I said, the first one honestly is the only illumination movie that I actually cared about.
And it was actually one of the biggest surprise movies that I've ever walked out of the theater.
I remember being like, oh, my God, that was so freaking good
because the trailers weren't that weren't getting me that hyped.
And I just thought it was I don't know.
It just wasn't really sounding like a really good movie to me.
But what really drove the first one was just how well that they did driving the characters.
The character development was just so good.
And it was the same thing with this one.
Just such a solid sequel. The songs were good. Songs were great.
And I just have very little problems with it.
It delivered the sequel that I wanted.
And I am so happy with it. So, yeah, 85.
Hell, yeah.
All right. Well, all that concludes this week's breakdown.
So the final All Bros letter grade for Sing 2 has come to a B plus.
Hell, yeah. I love it.
Yeah. So it is sitting at an eighty six point two five percent.
Not bad. Yeah.
It's definitely one of our lower B plus movies.
OK, it's actually like three from the bottom. Oh, wow.
So let's see. Out of thirty nine B plus movies, it's thirty seven.
I'll take it. What's below it?
I'm actually going to go with above first. Oh, God.
OK, so like I said, it's at an eighty six point two five.
So this is like an interesting one.
This puts it exactly like exactly in line with Captain Marvel.
Interesting. Yeah. So they are the exact same score.
Eighty six point two. That's funny. That's that's really funny.
Yeah. But yeah, so that it puts it below the Lego Movie 2,
which is at an eighty six point five.
Puts it below the Lovebirds, which is at an eighty six point five four.
Puts it below Frozen 2, which is at an eighty six point five nine.
Yeah, I can accept that. Frozen 2 is such a good sequel.
Puts it below In the Heights, which is at an eighty six point eight one.
And then puts it below Nobody, which is at an eighty seven. OK.
And then God, I'm scared. Sing to is.
I'd love OK. I don't know how it came to this.
Because this does not feel right to me. Sing to is above Spider-Man Homecoming.
Oh, Dan, oh, Vic's going to kill us, which is at an eighty six point two two percent.
Oh, yeah, Vic's going to kill us. He scored that one with us.
That's true. He did. Yeah.
All that is so true, dude. But what throws me is freaking.
Homecoming is below Captain Marvel.
Yeah, that doesn't seem right.
That doesn't like I need to double check. I'm sorry.
Homecoming is a better movie. Apparently not.
All right. That's some bullshit. Spider-Man Homecoming.
83. Shit. I mean, I'm not disagreeing with any of the scores.
It is seriously a point zero three percent difference.
It is so it is so insignificant.
Well, maybe we're going to have to have DJ and that come on.
Come on and break that movie down again.
Did they drop our score like they did far from home?
Oh, yeah, they did drop it. God damn it.
OK, never mind. Never mind. Yeah. Spider-Man Homecoming is on lockdown.
As is no way home. No one can touch that one.
You guys even think of touching that movie. We will fight you. Yeah.
Oh, shit. And then the other movie that it's above was Nightmare on Elm Street,
which was at an eighty six point one two.
OK, yeah, that one's not like, oh, my God. Yeah.
Spider-Man Homecoming is just like, what? That's the biggest one for me.
Same here. Like, oh, my gosh. That's that's insane.
Part of me, what really wants to go through all the MCU movies
and do our breakdown system on them and then see what our
like our MCU lineup looks like.
Do we totally should?
Yeah, that seems like a lot of work.
I mean, what if we knock out like.
Oh, OK. I'll talk.
I'll talk to you about this after. But we'll set it up.
We'll set it up so it'll be like easy for us to do.
OK, sounds good.
All right. But yeah, that's that's that's where Singto is sitting.
B plus. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
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So, yeah, next week on the podcast, we will be breaking down the movie I slept on until a couple days ago.
And I'm kicking myself in the ass because, God, this movie is incredible and canto.
So breaking down this Disney gem, at least I feel that's what it is.
Oh, it absolutely is.
I absolutely understand why I made Caleb's top 10 of last year.
And honestly, it would have made mine if I like I said, I wouldn't have slept on it like a dumbass.
Anyway, genuinely shocked that No Way Home did not was not your top pick.
Oh, so you did listen to it. Yes, I did.
OK, I was playing Xbox the other day and was listening to it.
And when I heard you were like, oh, like I thought I missed some because you started talking about No Way Home.
Like on your list. Yeah.
And I was just like, oh, shit, like I think he skipped like a few.
Then you're like, and then my number one and I like lost my mind.
I was like, are you shitting me? I'm sorry, man.
Just yeah. Oh, did was Ghostbusters afterlife above it, too?
Yeah. Dude, no shit. Yeah.
Sorry, man. It still made my top three.
Oh, you are so lucky that we don't have that.
We use a different. Breaking sheet to grade.
To grade our. Our personal scores for Spider-Man, No Way Home.
Because I would have I would have easily called bullshit on that.
Because you gave you gave Ghostbusters afterlife.
For your personal score and ninety five. Yeah.
And we ended up giving Spider-Man No Way Home in ninety eight for a personal score.
God damn. So. Yeah, you fud up.
I fud up. I mean, especially considering I think I gave Halloween kills like an eighty five for my personal score.
I'm going to keep I'm this year.
My goal is to keep track of the personal score, like starting now.
I was going to keep track of all the personal scores that you give to every single movie that we break down.
And so when you come with come at me with another like top ten of twenty, twenty two and you try butchering the system.
Hey, yeah, but even if I rank it higher than like sit like like with Ghostbusters.
No, like I'm talking like personal score like say, oh, this is my personal score for this movie.
I'm going to I'm going to tell you what your top ten is.
Yes, sir. Oh, shit.
But yeah, you guys should go listen to that episode, too, because Caleb said I'm in his thoughts.
Yeah, there's a lot of thoughts. I'm sure I get it, dude. I'm sure there's like so many people are like, what?
You put Halloween kills is number one.
Sorry, man, I'm a huge horror fan. And for me, that movie delivered and I loved every minute of it.
So, yeah, but I guess you liked it, too.
I did. But I mean, did I put Halloween kills on my top ten?
I think you had it as honorable mention. That's right.
Yeah. So, yeah, like I said, next week, Enkanto.
So if you guys haven't watched it yet, it is on Disney Plus and you don't have to pay a premium price for any or anything for it.
It's just there for if you're already subscribed to Disney Plus.
And you know what? I was actually I wanted to go check it out in theaters even though I watched it on Disney Plus.
But it's not playing anymore. It's like, seriously?
I mean, kind of makes sense. I know it's been out since November, but still.
God, I've sucked with this movie.
I missed out on a gem seeing it in theaters and I waited too long to watch it.
But anyway, until next week, this has been the All Bros Podcast. I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb. And we will see you guys next week.
Do dooshes.
I'm so used to you saying dooses first. Sorry.
Force a habit.
See ya.