What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I am Jon Luthen.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast we'll be talking about one title in 4k spotlight and it's one
that neither of us have ever seen and you know what honestly I don't know if we ever
will.
We'll see.
Well if that's the case why the hell are we talking about it?
Just because it's because it's a new release.
I mean we got to let people know that you know it was in the theater.
It didn't do so hot and now it's coming out on 4k.
Okay.
Yeah.
Then we'll be moving on to Through the Wall where we got three brand new trailers to give
our thoughts on.
So that's going to be fun.
And then we'll be moving into our headliner of the night which will be our breakdown of
the new Pixar movie Turning Red.
Hell yes.
So Caleb what do you say we get started?
Say let's do it.
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Alright so jumping into 4k spotlight we have Nightmare Alley coming to 4k this week.
Like I said Caleb and I have never seen this movie.
You know I would honestly watch it just for the costumes alone.
Really?
Yeah like they give me like a great Gatsby kind of vibe and I'm always up for that.
Okay.
I'm looking at pictures right now.
It looks pretty cool.
So last I checked this movie is on HBO Max right now so if you guys want to check it
out over there you can.
But besides coming out on just regular 4k and Blu-ray this is also getting a Best Buy exclusive
steelbook.
And not gonna, I don't know what it is.
I don't know the steelbook is like plain to me.
Like I actually like the 4k cover better because the steelbook is just like I'm assuming just
the main guy but yet the regular 4k has like him and then three other women on it.
And I don't know that just pops a lot more to me than just him on a steelbook.
I mean he does have some cool stuff behind him.
Yeah I mean it's cool.
I really like the inside.
I will give you that the inside does look cool.
The inside just has a lot of stylized, what are those tarot cards?
I think so.
Cale will be better not talking me into picking this steelbook up you bitch.
Excuse you?
Hey you talked me into West Side Story last week.
Hey I just said that the inside is cool.
Like I totally agree with you the cover needs work.
But you know how I am that when someone else says oh you know it actually looks pretty
cool my inner thoughts are just like yeah Jonathan it looks pretty cool you should buy
it.
Dude the inside is the only thing that it has going for it.
Okay.
I wish that we could see the back.
I hate that they don't show the back.
Like you literally just have to wait until you buy the movie to see the back.
Well if you Google it, like I just Googled Nightmare Alley 4K and it showed me the inside
and the cover and the back.
And the back is just kind of plain.
Like nothing really super special about it.
Alright sorry I gotta make my final judgement if I'm buying this or not.
Right here right now.
Let's do it guys.
Yeah like the back fits the front cover pretty well.
Okay yeah.
Wow that is blurry as hell.
How does when I type in Nightmare Alley, okay I get you know I can get like a Nightmare
on Elm Street coming up for suggestions that makes sense but why in the hell does the purge
movie steelbooks pop up?
And Halloween.
This doesn't make any sense.
Well there's that.
I do want to point out though, minus besides this coming out and I already pre-ordered
this bitch because I have to have this.
They are doing a 4K exclusive box set of steelbooks to Best Buy for the Hunger Games films and
it looks so bitchin'.
Really?
Oh yeah.
Like I don't know.
Like Caleb you should Google it because they look beautiful.
I can't wait.
I really hope that mine is shipped in good condition because I'm gonna cry if it's not.
It's the box set?
Yeah.
Yeah 4K steelbook box set.
Is it the... the one...
Holy shit.
From Best Buy?
Yeah.
Dude that looks sick.
Right?
So cool.
So the backs of these make up the map?
Yeah I believe that's how it...
Whoa.
Right?
Oh it's so cool.
That is... that is sick.
I love that.
Is it... was it... right?
Was it $100?
Yes.
Yeah expensive.
I think it was $100.
Yeah.
Or is technically $90 bucks but...
Okay.
So that's not bad.
I always love when they go for like an artistic cover.
I do too.
Like it all... it always works out better or looks just super killer.
Yeah.
Like I don't think there's ever been like an artistic cover or adaptation or it's just
something done in some different artistic style that I've not liked.
That's fair.
Like none that come to mind right now but like this is epic.
Like the front...
I'm assuming it's the front.
The front has just some sort of like clipped artwork from the first movie or from the movie
itself and then the sides make up the the Mockingjay symbol or the Hunger Game whatever
and then the backs show or like one of them shows you like the different districts and
then the other three are like the maps of Panem.
Like that's freaking sick.
I'm so excited.
Yeah I love that.
I'm gonna be...
I really hope that if mine comes in damage that it's also sold in stores because I need
this to be in pristine condition.
For how freaking expensive this bitch was.
I'm just saying.
Dude, freaking makes sense.
It absolutely makes sense.
Like I'd be extremely pissed if this doesn't come in like perfect condition.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So excited.
You should be.
This is...
This will be a freaking killer ass purchase.
Right?
Oh, I'm so sorry that...
I'm kind of...
Well, I was gonna be amazed that pre-orders haven't sold out yet but I guess you know,
not a lot of people are huge fans of the Hunger Games films.
I'm not a fan of the ending.
That is fair.
But I wasn't a fan of the ending of the book either.
You know what?
I absolutely agree with that.
But the books themselves were good and this was at a time where they had like a bunch
of like weird dystopian future books out.
Like they had Hunger Games, they had freaking Maze Runner, Divergent.
This was just the era of dystopian future.
And I liked...
Ender's Game?
Yeah, that was another one.
Gettlin only got the one movie though.
Oh yeah.
I think.
I'm pretty sure it did.
Yeah, so...
Yeah, Hunger Games is just top notch.
Oh yeah.
Like, I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Like, I freaking love the Hunger Games.
I could not...
I hate to say it, I couldn't even finish the first Divergent movie and then I never bothered
with the others.
I...
I've seen...
I don't know how many there are.
There, I mean there was supposed to be like, I think, four but then the third one bombed
so bad that they were going to make it a TV movie but that never happened.
Okay.
So I watched the first and the second one and half of the third.
Okay.
What's...
What only got you halfway through with the third?
Why?
I fell asleep.
Like, I didn't...
So I watched the first one in theaters, I watched the second one at home.
I think we rented it.
From Redbox.
Then the third one, same thing, like we rented it but I freaking...
I passed out like halfway through.
Like, I was so freaking boring.
Oh shit, that's funny.
But yeah.
Yeah, so that is it for 4K Spotlight.
So if you guys want to pick up Nightmare Alley, that comes out this week as well as that bitchin'
4K Steelbook Ultimate collection of the Hunger Games films.
Which is only available at Best Buy.
So get it while you can.
If you like Hunger Games, I would highly recommend this.
It's gorgeous.
Freakin' killer.
This is what a box set should be.
Right?
Thank you.
Or just like, this is how the four movies should intertwine with each other.
Like, Avengers should have done something along this line.
But like I said, it should have been like, just when you put them all four together,
it should make up the Avengers symbol.
And I don't know, like, top four heroes.
Or something like that.
Well that just solidified Caleb kicking out Hawkeye and Black Widow.
Rude.
Unfortunately.
Actually, you know what?
After Endgame, I actually would have preferred it to be Iron Man, Captain America, Thor,
and Black Ironhawk.
Or Black Widow.
Black Ironhawk.
No, Black Widow and Hawkeye.
And not included Hulk.
Not Hulk.
Ouch.
Dude, I cannot even begin to express how much I hated the Hulk.
Which sucks because he's my favorite character.
I think we've already said this on the podcast, like, even with when we broke down Avengers
Endgame.
When, because me and Caleb saw Endgame opening night, midnight, it was freaking awesome.
But when they first introduced, you know, Professor Hulk on the screen, I have never
heard Caleb let out a louder sigh than he did that.
Just, UGH.
It was so loud.
I hated it so much.
So freaking much.
Anyway, let's get out of that depressing news.
Let's move on to Through the Wall this week, where we got three trailers to talk about.
First up, we finally got our first official trailer for Ms. Marvel, which drops, was it
June 2nd?
Yeah, so it starts right after Moon Knight ends.
Hell yeah.
Or close to.
Yeah.
Because yeah, Moon Knight premieres, uh, does Moon Knight premiere this month?
Yeah, so it premieres March 30th.
And I think they stated that it was going to be a one episode a week thing.
Yeah, so that like starting off with one and not like releasing two.
I mean, Hawkeye, that made sense just because if they didn't do it that way, the last episode
would have released after Christmas and that just would have been weird.
Yeah, so the last episode will be on May 4th.
Star Wars Day.
Yeah, and then the Obi-Wan series, which we'll get into, um, will release the 25th and then
it'll have that go.
And then, so Ms. Marvel is going to start, you said June, June what?
I think it's June 2nd.
Yeah, let me double check.
You sure?
Because that's a Thursday.
It might be June 8th.
You know what?
Let's search this up.
Myth, ma- no, god damn it.
Bitch.
Ms. Marvel release date.
You know, it'd be nice if they just, you know, told me the release date like when I search
it and not have to go searching for it because that's like really annoying.
Uh, June 8th.
June 8th, okay.
So yeah, Obi-Wan will be two episodes in if they are still releasing on Wednesdays, which
I'm assuming they are because that's just Disney Plus Day.
Yeah, ever since, um, ever since Loki premiered to Amazing Numbers on Wednesdays, yeah, they've
stepped up Wednesdays.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we'll be getting Ms. Marvel and Obi-Wan at the same time, which I could not
be more excited for.
You know what though?
People are going to hate my opinion though on which one I'm more excited for.
Ms. Marvel?
Yeah.
Just from the trailers.
I'm sorry, but we'll get into it.
But Obi-Wan Kenobi just, I don't know, the trailer just didn't do a lot for me.
Whereas like Ms. Marvel, I'm getting like a, like Spider-Man homecoming kind of vibe
from it and I'm loving that because I love that movie.
So let's talk about that trailer.
Yes.
Um, I have some issues with it.
Acting wise, acting wise, it looks great.
Yeah, I love who they chose to play Kamala.
Yeah, she seems like she's doing a really solid job.
Like just, obviously we haven't gotten a whole lot, but it seems like she's, she's doing
a pretty decent job, especially with this being her first role.
Yeah.
But, um, my issue lies in the creative direction that Marvel decided to take.
Alright, let's hear it.
I do not like that she gets her powers from some cosmic band.
That is fair.
I don't like it.
I don't, and like actually that I probably could have forgiven.
It's just the fact that her powers are now cosmic based and not stretchy.
I mean, now I know people would make the argument, yeah, but she does like a stretchable fist
in it.
No, no, no, I'm on the same page as you.
No, I'm on the same page as you, but cause yeah, when she does that, I'm sure a lot of
people are just like, oh yeah, but she, she does like the whole like flexible fist and
then punches.
But it still doesn't feel the same because there's so much cause cosmic power around
that.
It feels more green lantern.
It was exactly what I was afraid of.
Yes.
Yeah.
It.
Yeah, it does.
It's weird because someone's like blasting her.
So she's putting up a shield and so, but the shield is like this weird broken energy or
it looks like it's broken.
It looks like it's just kind of like squared pixelated, whatever, but it like, she puts
that up and it's like a full blown shield.
When she goes to like, I think it's her dad coming in the door, she like pushes and there's
like, it's not even like a hand.
It's just like a square piece that like goes and shuts the door for her.
So it's almost acting like it's an extension of her body, but not really like if it was
only her body, like if it was just, I would have even like preferred it to be more like,
like if you were going to go the green lantern route, just fricking own it.
Yeah.
Like if you're going to do stuff where she's like stretching out and like in close stuff,
make it look like her, like it's cosmically stretching her out.
Yeah.
Like just do that.
Or even like when she's, when she's running across those platforms, like she's manifesting
these platforms and like running across them.
I would have preferred to see her running with like long legs.
That would have been so cool.
Like cosmically long legs, but still.
Yeah.
I would have preferred that.
Like Marvel, you do, you were doing so good at adapting like the crazy powers into like,
and being like realistic with them and you could have fricking pulled this off.
But I know for a fact that they were afraid that people were going to get confused why
she doesn't have the same powers as Mr. Fantastic, because I'm pretty sure we're going to get
introduced to Mr. Fantastic in Multiverse of Madness.
A version of him.
I don't know if it'll be like the MCU Mr. Fantastic, but I'll bet my left nut we're
seeing Mr. Fantastic.
You heard it here folks.
So if Mr. Fantastic is not in Dr. Scram's Multiverse of Madness, Cale bows to everybody
his left nut.
Well they've like basically confirmed it.
They've announced more or less, like they shared a fricking screen image of these seven
hidden figures, which are just the seven characters of the Marvel Illuminati.
All I know is if I see if I see Lung Gruff and back is Mr. Fantastic, you will see me
scream like a little girl.
It very well might be him.
Oh, make me so happy.
Yeah, but like they have a major opportunity with this.
Like and what pisses me off too, is if they go the route that I think they're going to,
the members of like the Illuminati are Professor X is one of them.
Iron Man, which I'm pretty sure is going to be Tom Cruise, which I don't like.
I don't either.
Mr. Fantastic is one is a member.
Black Bolt is a member.
So this gives Marvel their fricking clear to go and like reboot the Inhumans, which
Ms. Marvel is an inhuman, so they have no excuse to not make her powers.
Dr. Strange is a is a member of the Illuminati as well, so I'm pretty sure there's going
to be a variant of him on the on the council or whatever.
And then Namor, the Submariner is a member.
So if they introduce him, like that would be fricking great.
Yeah, but I don't know.
I have problems.
If they if they do introduce Black Bolt, because like that would be just an introduction to
Reed Richards, Black Bolt and Namor.
They have an MCU Black Bolt, whether they want to admit it or not.
They have an MCU Black Bolt and he did a great job.
Like wait, which show was him?
He was the Inhumans.
I heard that show sucked.
It wasn't great, but it wasn't because of the cast.
They had an amazing cast.
They just had a very, very shitty showrunner.
All right, or whoever wasn't like it, whether it was writing, directing, whatever they did
horribly.
Like for instance, the first thing.
So one of the characters is Medusa.
Her inhuman ability is that her hair is like sentient and like access like other limbs
for her.
So it like flies out and can do stuff like it stretches out really far.
It's very like protected like it's it's basically it's magic hair, more or less.
Okay.
First thing they do with her.
I'm pretty sure this is first episode to they shave her head.
What the shit?
Like you are stupid.
Like that's like the exact moment I knew that the show was going freaking down the drain.
Did they just like could they not afford the special effects for her hair?
Nope, they couldn't.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Like not and then not covering everyone else's special effects that they needed.
The cast was amazing.
There was only maybe like one person I had an issue with with casting.
Okay.
But overall, like it wasn't the cast's fault in the slightest.
It was whoever was in charge of like the story.
Whether it was the writer's story, whether it was the director's story, whoever was in
charge of like where the story went, that's whose fault the show is.
It is not the cast's fault.
Okay, gotcha.
But yeah, like if they include Black Bolt, that's just going to open up the door for
inhumans and with Ms. Marvel being an inhuman, you could just not do the whole cosmic shit.
Like it makes sense because she is going to be included in like the Marvels.
But she there are just so many like fundamental Ms. Marvel stories that they are going to
miss out on telling unless she somehow has like a shape shifting ability.
If they if they don't have that because like her powers mess with her self image, like
she can make herself look like whoever she wants.
Like but she chooses to try and look like Captain Marvel because Captain Marvel is what
the quote unquote ideal superhero looks like.
And so when she finally like has that moment of realization that oh, I can be a superhero
and look like how I look like that, that's just like a great character moment.
And they're robbing her of that.
Like it's it sucks.
It completely sucks.
So that is honestly the reason why Ms. Marvel, my excitement level for it has dropped a lot.
Okay, fair enough.
Just because I know what we could be getting.
Yeah.
And you guys even released a frickin basically a Ms. Marvel video game like serious.
That's sounds very true.
Like you done goofed.
But yeah.
So that's all I have to say about that that trailer.
Honestly, like it looks.
It looks like it'll be fun, but it's not going to be the Ms. Marvel that I know we could
have.
And so just for that, I'm like, I'm I'm up for the change.
I hate I mean, I, I get where you're coming from.
Absolutely.
And I do hate that even though they're showcasing her like stressful powers, but implying the
cosmic power as well just isn't working, but I'm very optimistic about this show.
So like, I don't know, like honestly, I might say out of the two new Marvel shows that are
coming out, I don't know if I'm more excited for this or She-Hulk after Moon Knight.
I would assume you're more excited for She-Hulk.
That is what the one.
Yeah, it is definitely the one that I'm most excited for.
And it's just because I love She-Hulk as a character.
And that's fair.
Honestly, you can't screw She-Hulk up.
Don't say that because you never know.
I know, but it's it's just it's really hard for you.
Holt.
No, Hulk is really easy to screw up.
He's extremely easy to screw up.
It's but She-Hulk, like if you just follow the source material, follow who She-Hulk is
and like at her core, she is a lawyer.
So you can like no matter what direction you take, like if you want to go heavy action,
go heavy action.
If you want to go heavy, um, true crimes like style stuff, you can go that route too.
Like there is no wrong route to take with She-Hulk.
There is absolutely many, many, many, many, many wrong directions to take with Hulk.
Fair enough.
And yeah, it's just he's one of those characters.
It's really hard to get right.
And I still am not super happy with any iteration of the Hulk that we have seen on screen.
Other than like Lou Ferrignos.
I did not like Eric Bana's.
I did not like or I was okay with Edward Norton's.
That movie I feel doesn't get enough love.
I think it gets the exact amount of love it needs.
I disagree, but that's just me.
And then Mark Ruffalo's had some amazing promise.
Yeah.
But then they released Thor Ragnarok and just ruined it.
Yeah.
Yeah, they did.
Like, as soon as I heard Hulk talk, I was, I'm like, shit.
Yeah.
Like you knew the freaking Thor Ragnarok trailer.
I was hyped.
I'm just like, this is freaking Hulk.
Like someone that's not like full blown like crazy rage monster, but also someone that's
not like freaking stupid.
But no, they made him a freaking two year old and it aggravated the ever living hell
out of me.
Don't let comedic directors touch Hulk.
Let's, well, let's move on before Caleb blows another coronary.
Yeah.
Before he gets angry anymore.
Okay.
Like, okay.
Well, last thing.
Excitement level for Ms. Marvel.
I'm personally sitting at a seven.
Dude, that's actually like a lot higher than I thought you were going to be.
Yeah.
Like I'm excited.
I'm excited to see Ms. Marvel on screen.
I think her, her, uh, comic accurate suit looks incredible.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Like, oh, freaking like that's just chef's kiss perfection.
It's the only issue that I have with this show so far is the change in power.
That's fair.
That's completely understandable.
Uh, well, I mean, I'm at an eight for Ms. Marvel.
I'm actually very excited for the show.
Fair.
Moving on to the final trailer for Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which this movie comes out
next month.
It's freaking crazy.
Dude.
Holy shit.
Oh my God.
Dude, you know, someone made like one of the funniest comments that I've seen when they
said, you know what?
I feel Sega made the best casting choice with Idris Elba as Knuckles because Knuckles is
actually intimidating now with his voice.
Like, you know what?
Fair enough.
Dude, it's always been a little too high.
A little bit, a little bit.
Not super high.
Not the other shit that I've seen, but just like, it should have been like a lot more,
like a little deeper.
Like I feel Idris Elba is perfect.
He's the perfect voice for Knuckles.
Yeah.
Dude, I loved this trailer.
So freaking much.
It was so freaking fun.
It, yeah, dude, it's amazing.
And like this has nothing to do with the trailer.
Just really quickly.
It's amazing how much you can tell that the people making this movie truly love these
games because the poster, or like one of the posters for Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is literally,
so it's Sonic and Tails with a huge two in red and then hovering over the two is Eggman.
And that's actually a nod to the poster for the original game Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Dude, no shit.
Yeah, that's literally exactly how the poster looked.
Dude, that is awesome.
Right?
Such an awesome nod.
Dude, it felt like I saw that poster.
I didn't know that it originated from the classic game.
I didn't either until someone pointed it out.
Yeah.
Knowing that now, it truly felt like an original poster.
I'm like, this is pretty cool.
I don't think we've ever seen a poster like this before.
And just knowing that it comes from the roots of Sonic, like, oh, come on.
You guys freaking nailed it.
Yeah.
Dude, when are people going to like when our like studio is going to understand?
I feel like Kevin Feige has done a pretty decent job of it so far.
Warner Brothers absolutely has not.
I mean, I think they're getting there with Matt Reeves, but you have to let fans make
the content.
Like, you have to.
Yeah.
Like, no one else is going to understand the character better than a fan.
True.
Look at the look at Star Wars nowadays.
Yeah.
Like if I was interviewing directors for any intellectual property or any just like comic
book, anything nerdy, I'd be like, I want to see pictures of you as a child.
I want to see your teenage room.
And if you don't have a poster of what the hell you're interviewing for, you don't get
the job.
You know what?
Fair enough.
I want to see your comic book collection.
Oh, you have a majority of the character we're wanting you to create a movie for.
The gig is yours.
I don't think they'd want to see my childhood room because I don't know if I would do a
good job at directing it because I had a like a life like theater.
OK, so not like just like the usual theater size posters that they have like outside.
It was like one of the huge ones that they hang up inside to like really bring focus
to the movies for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
I don't think I'd do a good job at reinventing that.
That was a tough one.
It makes sense.
That's a that's just a tough property to tackle.
Yeah, great movie.
I love the movie and I love Royal Doll, but I just don't know if I would.
I'd struggle quite a bit.
Yeah, but you have to let.
Fans make your content and when you do, you I will be shocked, genuinely shocked if Sonic
2 does not do well.
Oh, same here.
I can't believe that we're living in a year that people are more excited for a Sonic movie
than a Mario movie.
I never thought I'd see that.
The bar is not super high, but but yeah, it's.
Oh, my goodness.
All I have to say.
Mario better freaking be good.
Yeah, cuz.
Oh, yeah, this this looks so good.
I mean, you don't really get a whole lot of new in this trailer.
I mean, you get some new story aspects with.
Oh, my God.
Do you remember James Marsden's character's name?
Wasn't it Thomas?
Yes.
I think it was Tom.
So we have Tom's wife's best friend like getting married and of course, you know, like Sonic
ruins it just because like he has to inform everybody that Eggman is back.
It just I don't know.
Throughout the trailer, it's just like it's just a bunch of shots of just, you know, Sonic
Tales and Eggman just going at it.
And I love there's like an audio is playing over how Knuckles is telling Sonic like you're
untrained, you're unskilled, yada yada yada.
And then finally, Sonic's just like you forgot one unstoppable.
And I'm just like, yes.
And then I love how the final shot is Knuckles freaking trying to keep knocking him out.
He's just like, stay still so I can punch you.
And Sonic's just like for someone named Knuckles, you're really not that good at punching.
Dude, this movie is going to be great.
Like my expectations are I do too.
I would love to see Shadow.
I would freaking Mecha Sonic.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This dude, this is this series better be good.
Like it like I my expectations are high, but not unrealistically high.
I am so excited to see this.
Yeah, I am too.
Like nothing.
You know, I've actually always wonder who is your favorite Sonic character?
I don't think I've ever asked you that.
Oh, actually.
It's always it's always been Shadow followed really closely by Knuckles.
Hell yeah.
OK, because yeah, yeah.
Knuckles is always been my favorite.
So the fact that like we're getting him in the freaking sequel already, like I was over
the freaking moon when they announced that.
So even if we don't get a third movie, at least my favorite character got to be in at
least one of these.
But I really do hope that at least I don't know.
Do you think there will be a tease of Shadow?
I hope so.
Well, like you, I really hope so.
Like if you're going to do a third one, you have to put Shadow in it, right?
Like come on.
Yeah, like you have to.
You guys could keep this going forever.
Like if you wanted to save Mecha Sonic, like for even an even later like sequel, like freaking
do that.
Like if you keep giving us as good of stuff as we got with the first Sonic the Hedgehog
and as good of stuff as I'm expecting us to get in this next or Sonic the Hedgehog 2,
like come on.
Would you ever want to see Silver?
I am not super familiar with Silver, so.
Dude, I'm not either because like literally the only exposure I have to Silver is playing
as him in like the Mario and Sonic games or Olympic games.
I mean, he was cool.
I mean, he looks like a cool ass hedgehog.
I'll give him that.
But like, yeah, characterize.
I know like jack shit about Silver.
Yeah, like I think their best bet is just to stick with the popular characters.
What about Amy?
Would you bring in Amy?
I would eventually bring in Amy.
All right.
I'm OK, though, if they don't bring in Blaze.
Nothing against Blaze, but I don't really know what you could do with her because I
just feel like a lot of people just don't really know her that well.
Like she was introduced before Silver and I feel a lot more people know who Silver is
over Blaze.
I don't know either of them, so.
Like I said, when you play, I know bare bones, Sonic, like I know really.
Yeah, like the four that I knew like immediately were Sonic, Tails, Shadow and Knuckles.
OK, the ones that I was just recently introduced to was like Amy.
Anyone else?
Everyone else?
I'm like, I have no idea.
No reference for no not not not vector, nothing like that.
No.
OK.
Cool.
Well.
All right.
One thing that I noticed, it feels like they're throwing in some like mild references.
Isn't there a snowboarding game with Sonic?
I mean, there is like, well, I don't know if it ever takes place on the actual snow.
I mean, you know, they they do go snowboarding in the Olympic Games that they're in or the
Winter Olympic Games.
Oh, well, I'm thinking of Sonic Riders.
Oh, yeah.
That is like that's something I feel we got a nod towards with the snowboarding scene.
You know what?
That's fair.
That is fair.
That was a nice winter soldier joke right there in that scene as well.
That was funny.
It was a little out of place, but it was funny.
Yeah, it was.
I don't know.
It kind of felt like natural coming from Sonic because that's just something that he would
say might not make sense to us, but it makes sense to him.
Yeah.
So I'm.
I'm digging it.
I'm really digging it.
I am too.
My excitement level for this.
I'm a solid nine.
Dude, same like hell.
I actually already bought tickets for it.
Did you really?
Yeah, I did.
I'm I'm stoked for the sequel.
Nice.
Freaking love it.
Well, that's it.
OK, so you said you're at a nine, right?
Yes.
Yeah, I'd say I'm at a nine as well.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, moving on to our final trailer to talk about.
You know, I just realized like me talking about with Miss Marvel, how like I was more
interested in that one over the Obi-Wan Kenobi trailer, because I thought that we were actually
talking about that, but then I forgot that we decided not to.
I mean, we can cover it real quick.
OK, I know that you're not like super excited about the Obi-Wan series.
The only thing that I'm excited for, because I mean, like you are know so much more about
Star Wars, I feel because my my jam and I know a lot of people are going to hate me
for this is like the sequel is like the main trilogies of movies.
You know, the sequel trilogy, prequel trilogy and original trilogy.
More so I've seen the sequel trilogy more than any of the others I know hate me.
Go ahead.
So the thing that I'm most excited for is, of course, to see McGregor back as Obi-Wan
Kenobi.
I'm so freaking excited for that.
And of course, Hayden Christensen coming back as Darth Vader.
Yeah.
Yeah, the only things about that trailer that I'm going to throw out.
I know that not many people.
So the Inquisitors are from what I've I've understood and like read about them.
The Inquisitors are relatively new to the Star Wars universe.
OK.
And the only reason that they have become part of the Star Wars universe is because
they needed more lightsaber fights in rebels.
OK, you know what?
I can justify that.
Yeah.
And they just kind of were like, OK, we have these not Sith Siths that work that work for
like they're force sensitive dark side users there, but they're not quite Sith.
All right.
OK.
Yeah.
So that like because the Sith has have this rule of two where there's only there's one
master and one apprentice.
OK.
So the master always being Palpatine, he had for the longest time he had Darth Darth Maul.
Then when Darth Maul was defeated in battle, he went to Count Dooku.
And then once Count Dooku was eliminated, it went to Darth Vader.
And then Darth Vader just being like super freaking macho man and the force was the apprentice
for the longest amount of time.
And then we thought that oh, sorry, go ahead.
No.
And so the apprentices have people underneath them that work for that work for them that
they are force sensitive or are recently converted Jedi.
OK.
So like I know Count Dooku in the Clone Wars had a quote unquote apprentice named Ventress.
And she was a former Jedi that like I think I may be butchering this too.
Anyway, the way that the Inquisitors were described to me, they are force sensitive
or yeah, force sensitive dark side users that are used for extra lightsaber battles.
OK.
I love it.
Yeah.
So they just kind of got thrown in and it became canon that they're the ones that were
sent out and like hunting Jedi and everything.
So everyone's saying that like Darth or Obi Wan needs to just completely waste these characters.
But yeah, so they do have some like cool characters.
Like the big one is like the Grand Inquisitor.
But I know he doesn't die until Rebels.
And by in Rebels, Obi Wan is already like an old man.
OK, gotcha.
So kind of like mild spoiler there, like nothing's going to happen to Grand Inquisitor.
At least nothing worth a damn.
Just ruin the whole show.
I know.
But I think everyone is going to be watching this show for the Obi Wan Anakin flashbacks
and the Obi Wan Darth Vader fights.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
No doubt about that.
Yeah.
But apparently, like rumor has it, or just the showrunner or anyone involved with this,
this is going to be the most brutal Darth Vader we have ever seen.
And they always like specifically say, including Rogue One.
I mean, can you blame him because holy shit, he was ruthless in that movie.
Yeah.
So they're just like, imagine that just like way worse.
All right.
I like it.
Yeah.
So I'm really excited for that show.
Yeah, couldn't be more excited.
Obi Wan's always been my favorite Star Wars character.
Like, always.
Even before I saw the original or the prequel trilogy.
I liked him.
I would agree.
I liked him as Sir Alec Guinness being Ben Kenobi.
That's fair.
Dude, I remember, yeah, Obi Wan Kenobi's lightsaber was always my go to when me and my friends
would choose lightsabers.
But it seemed like whenever we would do lightsaber battles at lunch, you know, like, of course,
you know, you pretend to have a lightsaber.
I always got stuck with, I was always Yoda because no one wanted to be Yoda.
And so I would have to get on my knees just so it could be like correct, correct height.
And yeah, it's kind of hard trying to fight with a lightsaber or trying to move around,
even though you don't, you're not holding a lightsaber.
It's very hard to move around and fight when you're having to just, you know, walk around
on your knees.
So yeah.
Dude, do you remember or did you ever have those Star Wars battle figures, the ones that
were, I forget what the hell they're called.
Let me see.
Like, let me see if we can find them real quick.
Okay, I never had those.
A Tactics.
That's the toy that I'm thinking of.
Yeah, so they were the Star Wars figures on these little rollers.
And when you would roll, like you could play on a table and place them like anywhere on
the table.
And then you like you created like your battle, your battle scene.
And so you can move your characters a certain amount of spaces per turn and then make like
a couple attacks and whatever.
And so the Jedi's always had like a really long lightsaber and you could like twist them
back because they have like rotatable torsos.
So you would twist them back and then let them go and they would swing and like hit
the characters.
Okay.
And so like the whole goal was to knock down all of your other your opponents figures,
but they had like clone troopers that had blasters.
And so you could like aim your like you would hold your toy down, aim with your your thing,
push the button and it would fire and you would try to like knock down the other characters
toy.
And then it would have like different advantages on the bottom.
Like so when you roll like moving one space, it's like it makes a click.
So you roll it and it's like click, click, click.
And then that's like how many spaces you can move.
And so they would have like little tabs underneath.
So like the Jedi, like I think Mace Windu had one and he's just like, okay, if the if
the tally is black, then you can like you can stay up if knocked down.
If it's white, like you like you're dead or something like that.
They were they were just like little rules or like character bonuses on the bottom of
these characters.
But it was so much frickin fun.
Me and my brothers had like a ton of them growing up, but we never knew how to play
properly.
I found I forget what my point was to bringing these up other than like saying that I had
I found a dude on TikTok that does a tactics battles because he he was able to collect
all of the tactics because they were like they were collectible figures.
And so yeah, he collected every single one of them and he his whole TikTok is making
a tactics battles.
That's bitchin.
It is.
It is so cool.
It is so cool because you'd have.
Like.
Like just different bonuses, too.
So it's just like, OK, like if this character dies or gets knocked over with a white tab,
then you can resurrect all Wookie's characters like all other Wookie's that you had or all
of their clone troopers.
They would just like keep ways to make the battle go on longer.
And then you'd have like those little blasters.
And so you either have to like.
Make shot like incredible shots.
So you had like Django Fett and Boba.
You would have force users.
So it would kind of like the force.
It was like this.
Like it was more like a shield that that you could fire.
But it was like a force blast.
But it would like it was so cool.
It was so much.
I'll have to send you a video of his.
But yeah, like I said, I completely forgot the point to bringing this up.
So really excited for Obi-Wan.
I am at a solid.
Maybe eight out of ten because we did not see any Darth Vader.
Once we see Darth Vader, I'm like 10 out of 10.
I'm at a seven, so completely fair.
I did.
Yeah, I never freaking played this this game.
I never played with these as a kid.
You know what?
Now I feel I missed out because this looks like fun as hell.
Yeah, they were they were so much freaking fun.
Like like I said, me and my brothers never knew how to play properly.
I just love that.
But it was so much freaking fun.
Like I remember it being a blast.
Like the way like the way that we played was just it was it was so much fun.
And I honestly.
Wish that we would have collected more.
That's fair.
Like I know I know for a fact we have like a ton of them.
Yeah, but I don't know if my mom like got rid of them or or something.
But I would love to find these in like storage one day.
That would be like my dream.
Anyway, like so does that make you feel old?
The tactics.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little bit.
Do you want to feel even older?
Sure.
Well, no.
So just I don't know if you guys saw.
So this past Tuesday or yesterday, Grand Theft Auto 5 launched on PS5 and Xbox Series X.
And I was thinking about it.
You know, I was looking through I was like watching like the trailers from the original
release and I'm like, holy shit, man, I remember how hyped I was up for this game.
And I'm thinking, you know, how old is this game going to turn next year?
And I'm thinking it came out in 2013.
It's going to be 10 years old next year.
Are you shitting me?
Yeah.
Grant, does that make you feel freaking old?
It makes me feel old.
Grant Theft Auto 5 is going to be 10 years old next year.
I need to go back and play that game.
Like I never finished the story mode on that.
I'm offended.
I know.
Like, but I have like a valid excuse for it.
It's because like my mom came down and saw me playing it one time when I when I got it.
And she like was like, no, no more Grand Theft Auto for you.
And so I was like, all right, whatever.
And so I just stopped playing it.
Do you?
And so I never like I still have it.
I still have it.
But do you have it on 360 or Xbox One?
Xbox One.
But I'm pretty sure like you can get a free upgrade if you have the 360 version.
I think you.
That's I think so.
Like that's that's kind of how it worked.
No, usually.
Well, because no, because they completely remastered it when they switched it over to
Xbox One.
I might have to check again.
Because, yeah, if you have it on 360, if you only have it on 360, if a copy of it gets
delivered, it came.
It wasn't from me.
Just saying that.
Yeah, but I like I realized, too, like how many games that I never completed because
my mom didn't like them.
Like I'm playing Dishonored again right now.
And I realized like, oh, I only made it to this point when I first got the game.
Like I was playing it.
I was just like, oh, I'd love to replay this.
Like I like I'm not 100 percent certain I ever beat it.
And I I didn't even get halfway through it.
Wow.
Like I and I realized I'm like, oh, this is the last room or last level I remember playing.
And I remember my mom coming down while I was playing it and saying that it was like
a prostitution.
Like like one of the you had to like go and sneak and attack these characters or these
people while they were in a brothel.
Yeah.
Like you're trying to get one of the characters you're trying to get a security code from
and he's attached to like this electric chair type thing.
And he's like blindfolded and you come in and he's just like, oh, yeah, frickin zap
me.
And so you do.
Yeah.
It's frickin weird.
OK.
But like this like this was the only place that he was like exposed.
And so it's like, OK, like you have like a small window to go and get him.
And so like you do you like you go and you frickin just zap the shit out of him.
And then he's just like, I'll tell you everything.
He tells you everything.
And then you zap him again and he dies.
All right.
But it was so uncomfortable because like my mom came down.
It was either while it was either while I was going around the brothel and there were
like a bunch of girls around like wearing skimpy clothes.
It was either during that or during the scene where you're like zapping him and he's like
it was like early into it because he was like getting off on it because like you zap him
the first time and he's just like, oh, yeah, I've been bad.
And you're just like zap.
And then he's just like, oh, yeah, you're in that.
Then he starts like, it's weird.
It is super frickin weird.
And eventually he's just like he tells you what a safe word is.
And then you zap him like a third time and he's just like, OK, OK.
And like says it's safe for it.
And he's like, OK, I'm like, good to go.
And then you zap him again.
He's like, ah, like, what was that for?
Like it's super weird, dude.
It is beyond uncomfortable.
So like I completely understand why my mom didn't want me to play that one.
But yeah, it was something else.
All right.
Anyway, so yeah, if you guys want to feel old, GTA V turns 10 years next year, 10 years
old next year.
But moving on to our final trailer to talk about, we and this I feel came out of nowhere
because they I feel Dreamworks was like hyping up either a Shrek 5 or Shrek reboot for the
longest time.
They're like, oh, yeah, it's going to happen.
We're getting the original cast back together.
It's going to be frickin awesome.
And then a couple of days ago, they're just like, bam, here's your first trailer for Puss
and Boots 2.
Like, OK, this came out of nowhere.
I'm OK with it because Puss and Boots is one of the rare spin offs that I think is actually
really, really good.
It was really good.
It was such a good sequel.
And that movie got so much hate.
Yeah.
Yeah, it really did.
Yeah, which I never understood because it's a spin off, people.
It's not like it's like a direct sequel to any of the Shrek movies.
It's a spin off.
Yeah, it was just it was just a good movie going experience.
It was just it's just like a tale of Puss and Boots before he met Shrek and the gang.
What's wrong with that?
It was it was fun.
It was it was really fun.
I absolutely agree.
So I personally am very happy that we're getting the sequel to this.
For me, it's like about damn time.
That is fair.
And you know, I would have rejected the movie if Antonio Banderas was not coming back as
Puss.
I absolutely would have done the same.
No one else can play Puss and Boots.
I am very excited to see Salma Hayek back as isn't it Kitty Softpaws?
Isn't that her name?
Yeah.
Yup.
Very excited to see her back.
I love it.
Caleb mentioned earlier we were talking about this.
He said they better put the own cat in there.
Like, come on, you have to bring that cat back.
Dude, honestly, this has inspired me to go back and rewatch Puss and Boots.
Dude, same.
Because I don't know about you, but frickin I like the whole storyline with Humpty Dumpty
and that isn't like the two.
Didn't they make like Hansel and Gretel like frickin terrifying in that movie?
Yes.
OK, that that's who the that's who like the siblings are.
It's Hansel and Gretel.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're frickin terrifying in that movie.
Dude, I might turn that movie on tomorrow.
Dude, I might too.
God damn it.
Is that on Paramount Plus at all?
Or is it on all streaming services?
I will check right now while you continue to talk about it.
OK.
So basically, the the basic storyline of this film is Puss and Boots finds out that
literally he's lived eight of his nine lives and so he only has one life left to live.
And you know, it's about him, you know, living it to the fullest and what what entails living
it to the fullest and not going to lie when they first like because like the first scene
is I think a clock tower falls on him and that's how he dies this eighth time.
And I remember thinking I'm like, are they frickin killing off kiss and kiss and boots?
Puss and boots in the frickin are they really showing that they're killing him off in the
trailer?
Like what the hell is this just becoming Kitty's soft pause movie?
But thank God, no, it's just, you know, them saying, oh, hey, you know, like he's died
eight times now he's only got one life left.
I think that's a very interesting idea for a sequel.
I've never seen anyone explore like, hey, what happens if a cat's down to its last life?
So I love that idea.
I think that's a really smart, fun idea.
You're not you know, you don't really get you do see some stuff in this trailer, but
not a lot.
I mean, you still see the bantering between Kitty and Puss, which is great as always.
Salman and Antonio are definitely bringing it for the sequel.
And I'm so excited to see them back.
But yeah, really just just a quick glimpse of what you'll get get a story for this movie
reintroduction to the characters and you're given an introduction to the new characters.
I forget the other new characters name.
Do you remember his name at all?
Caleb, the new character.
Yeah, like the one that's like in between them.
I think he's like a dog, isn't he?
Yeah, I don't know if he they gave us a name for him.
Let's find out.
If you guys want to watch Puss in Boots, it is on Prime Video.
Hell yeah.
So I definitely know what I'm doing tomorrow.
Dude, it's been 10 years since Puss in Boots came out.
Yup.
Oh, I just saw that too.
Oh my god.
I feel so freaking old now.
Dude, it's been over 10 years.
Oh, yeah, because it came out in 2011.
Oh, good Lord.
It has been 11 years since Puss in Boots came out.
Why?
Now, why you got to make me feel so damn old?
That's insane.
Damn it, I'm not like seeing anything for this character's name.
Is it a dog?
I'm pretty sure it's a dog, isn't it?
Yeah, it seems like a dog.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they didn't give us a name in the trailer.
Well, yeah, anyway, it's really focusing on Puss, Kitty, and then this dog.
I guess we should say that it's actually called Puss in Boots, the last wish.
It's not called Puss in Boots 2.
So I'm genuinely excited for this.
I am too.
Honestly, first trailer and I'm already at an eight.
Honestly, I think I'm about there too.
Hell yeah.
Like if anywhere I'm like maybe a little bit lower, but I'm at like a seven point.
I'd be more at a seven point nine, but I'm not going to be that like anal about it.
So yeah, I'm at an eight if I'm rounding.
Wait.
What?
Wait, no, it's not Hansel and Gretel, it's Jack.
Oh, it's.
Oh my God.
It's like the siblings that like run up the hill and then like one falls down.
Jack and Jill.
Yeah, Jack, that's who it is.
Yeah, it's not Hansel and Gretel, it's Jack and Jill.
Yeah.
Yeah, that, yeah.
Dude, I can't wait to watch this tomorrow.
Because it was about this time that I think Hoodwink 2 came out as well and that's where
we got Hansel and Gretel.
And yeah, we don't talk about that piece of shit because it's nothing compared to how
great the first movie is.
I love Hoodwink so much.
But anyway.
Yep.
Puss in Boots 2 or Puss in Boots the last.
The last wish.
When does this come out?
September 23rd.
So we got a while, but I am absolutely so excited for this.
Honestly, I will take this over Shrek 5 just because I know everyone hates Shrek Forever
After, but I love so much how they ended the story in the fourth movie.
I love that movie to death.
It's honestly actually like my favorite Shrek movie.
I know y'all can hate me for that, but I love Shrek Forever After.
And so that was like a perfect ending to the series.
So I never wanted them to touch it after that and I hope they never do.
So I will absolutely take Puss in Boots 2 over Shrek 5.
Hell yeah.
Okay so should we rank these?
Out of four.
What do you got?
Oh shit.
That's hard.
Do you want me to go first so you can get an idea?
Yes.
Okay.
So number one, I gotta give to Sonic the Hedgehog 2 because I am stoked for the sequel.
Two, I would actually give to Puss in Boots 2 because yeah just very stoked for the sequel.
Three to Ms. Marvel and then four Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Yeah, our top, ours is gonna be way different.
Hey that's what makes our show so good.
Yeah, my number four, I'm actually gonna give to Ms. Marvel.
Okay.
My number three, the margins between my three, two and one are very close.
Are very close.
But my number three I'm gonna give to Puss in Boots.
Number two I'm gonna give to Sonic the Hedgehog.
Alright I'm out.
And then my number one I'm giving to Obi-Wan.
Just because off this trailer alone I would probably put Obi-Wan at number two.
But it's just because I know what we're going to be getting out of this show that's bumping
me up.
Okay, alright.
So if I was doing it based off of the trailers then it would go Ms. Marvel at the bottom,
then Puss in Boots, then Obi-Wan, then Sonic.
So just swapping my top two if you want to incorporate the trailer.
If we're not taking trailers into account and just the overall anticipation then Obi-Wan's
at top.
Okay, fair enough.
It's kind of funny that my four is your one and your one is my four.
That's pretty funny.
I love when that happens though.
Yeah, I agree.
Alright well that should do it for Through the Wall.
I think that's like the longest Through the Wall we've had in a while.
It's yeah, it was a long one.
That was awesome though.
We had some good shit to talk about.
Well what do you say we move into our headliner of the evening?
I say let's do it.
Alright so on this week's episode for our, I almost said main event, sorry, headliner,
we'll be breaking down Pixar's newest film, Turning Red, which is now streaming on Disney
Plus if you guys have not seen it.
But if you are new to our podcast, which I was going to say like how are you like new
or like over 200 episodes in but like you know, you never know.
Well you can't blame people that are new because we are not like an episodic podcast.
It is very much like you, it's whatever movie we want to talk about.
So you can jump in at any point.
That is a very good point.
But so if you are new to our podcast or break down everything, welcome.
But here on the All Bros podcast when it comes to breaking down movies, we break them down
by eight different categories and those are story, writing, acting, character development,
effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own genre grade and all of those magical
numbers get combined together and that gives us our final score for the movie.
So if you guys have not seen it.
It's our personal grade.
Personal grade, I'm sorry.
I know I need to change it.
But anyways, if you guys have not seen Turning Red and I know it's still a very new movie,
you have been warned that we are going to be giving away every single plot point of
movie.
So if you haven't seen it yet, pause this episode, go watch it on Disney Plus and then
come back and listen to this episode because here we go.
All right.
In 2002, Mei Lin Mei Li is a 13 year old Chinese Canadian girl living in Toronto, Canada.
Mei helps take care of the Li's family's temple dedicated to their ancestor, Sun Li,
and works to make her strict overprotective mother Ming Li proud.
She tries to hide her personal interests from Ming, such as her crushes on boys and the
fact that she and her best friends, Miriam, Priya and Abby are fans of the boy band Four
Town.
Ming inadvertently embarrasses Mei in front of several students, including Tyler, a school
bully leading Mei to have a nightmare.
The next morning, Mei wakes up to find herself inexplicably transformed into a gigantic red
panda.
After hiding from her parents, Mei discovers that she only transforms when she is in a
state of high emotion.
Her parents believe her distress is caused by her first period.
I'm so bad at saying sentences like that and I apologize.
Later...
Did they think it was because of her first period?
Yes, they do.
I thought it was the mom saying, oh, thinking that she was having period problems at the
beginning, and then she realized, oh, it's not, it's panda problems.
Wait, wait, let me find out what she was saying.
Oh, I think, okay, so they kind of like mismatched it, making it sound like they're getting ahead
of themselves with exposing her at school yet, but that hasn't happened yet with her
finding...
Because you're talking about like how the mom sees her turn into a red panda at school
and then she's like, okay, it's not a period.
It's...
That's what you're talking about, right?
Yeah.
I didn't think it was because...
I mean, it could have been, I don't know.
That would have been a really awful thing to deal with at the same time.
Oh, God, yeah.
I thought it was...
Pix are really diving into some deep shit at that point.
Yeah, no joke.
But yeah, the way that I interpreted it is that her mom thought it was her period and
then realized later that it was the panda.
Yeah, and I feel like they didn't do a really good job writing it that way.
Because yeah, that's exactly how it goes in the movie.
After hiding from her parents, Mei discovers that she only transforms when she is in a
state of high emotion and her parents believe her distress is caused by her first period.
Later, Ming finds out the truth when she again embarrasses Mei at school, causing her to
transform again.
Ming and Jin, Mei's father, explain that Sun Yi was granted the ability to transform into
a red panda in order to protect her daughters and every female member of the family since
has inherited...
Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
So they explain that Sun Yi was granted the ability to transform into a red panda in order
to protect her daughters and every female member of the family since has inherited the
ability when they come of age.
This has become inconvenient and dangerous, so the red panda spirit must be sealed in
a talisman by a ritual on the night of the red moon in a month's time.
Mei's friends inadvertently discover her transformation but take a liking to it and Mei finds that
concentrating on them and breathing deeply prevents her from transforming.
She convinces her parents to let her continue her normal life, though Ming keeps an eye
on Mei.
Four Town announces a show in Toronto as part of their concert tour, but Ming refuses to
let Mei attend it.
Using her red panda form, Mei and her friends begin to raise money for the tickets secretly.
Tyler asks Mei to entertain at his birthday for money at the party.
At the party, Mei discovers that the concert will actually be on her ritual night.
She gets angry and attacks Tyler when he insults her about her family, scaring all of the other
kids.
Ming discovers Mei's recent activities and chastises her friends for seemingly corrupting
and taking advantage of her.
We'll talk about that later, but I feel that is such a great, not character moment, but
it's so in character for her mom and I love that they didn't do the whole thing that,
oh, even though the mom saw that it was her daughter transforming at free will, she still
thinks that it's because her friends made her do it.
It's not her daughter deciding to do it herself.
When you raise a child that you think is this perfect angel, there's nothing in your mind
that can convince you, oh, they're capable of doing something wrong.
It's true.
Which I've never, I mean, even with Iris, I'm not so stupid and naive to think that
she's not capable of doing some sketchy shit.
I know somewhere down the line she's going to.
She is sweet and innocent, goddammit.
Yeah, for right now-ish.
She's a sneaky little one.
She knows it.
If you tell her that she's not allowed to have something and she'll go and grab it and
hide, and then she... I told her that she wasn't allowed to color because we were putting
all of her crayons and shit away.
She grabbed a crayon, ran off, and then I heard, I thought I got all the crayons.
I didn't realize she had a crayon.
I didn't hear from her for a while because it was super quiet.
I was like, okay, that's suspicious.
I got up and was looking for her and found her.
She was underneath the table drawing on this piece of paper.
I was just like, what are you doing?
She looked over at me and she's like, what?
I was like, I told you you weren't allowed to color.
Or not allowed.
I told you we were done coloring.
Yeah, I'm like, I told you we were done coloring.
She's just like, what?
They almost said it exactly like that too.
She's just, what?
That was adorable.
You stink.
That's adorable.
I love that.
Let's see.
So, Mae's grandmother, Woo, and her aunts come to assist in her ritual, much to Ming's
dismay.
As Mae prepares herself, Jin finds videos she took of her as the panda with her friends
and tells her this was the happiest he has seen her.
During the ritual, just as the red panda form is about to be sealed, Mae decides to keep
her powers.
She abandons the ritual to attend the concert at the Skydome with her friends, who forgive
Mae for her actions at the party, and discovers Tyler is also a four-townie like the girls
and Mae.
However, during her escape from the temple, Mae inadvertently damaged her mother's talisman.
Talisman, right?
Yes.
Thank you.
Talisman.
An enraged Mae transforms into a kaiju-sized red panda.
I love how they use that wording.
She sized red panda and disrupts the concert, intending to take back Mae by force.
Dude, I loved how the dad completely undersold how big Panda was.
You never said it was that big.
Yeah, he's just like, I said she was big, and not that big.
There's a reason he only saw it once.
While the audience hides, Mae and Ming argue about Mae's independence, and Mae accidentally
knocks her mother out.
The rest of the Lee family arrive to help.
I don't think that was an accident.
No, it was not.
She meant to do that.
All of the women break their talismans to use their red panda forms to help bring Mae
into a new ritual circle.
Mae's friends in Foretown join in singing to complete the ritual, sending Mae, Ming,
and the other women to the astral plane.
Mae reconciles with Ming and helps her mend her bond with Wu, whom Ming accidentally scarred
at some point during her first transformation and drove Ming's perfectionism.
The other Lee women conceal their red pandas in new talismans, but Mae decides to keep
hers as she is finally figuring out who she wants to be.
Sometime later, Mae and her family help raise money to repair the Skydome.
Mae and Ming's relationship has improved, and Mae balances her temple duties with spending
time with friends, now including Tyler.
How did I not pick up that Tyler was at the end?
I thought it was still just the four of them.
I don't know how I missed him.
I missed him too.
Oh, okay.
The second time too.
Oh, okay.
Like now that you've said it, I'm like, oh yeah, but like I wouldn't have remembered
that off the top of my head.
Okay.
All right, good.
I'm not the only one.
Yeah.
Yeah, I freaking love this movie.
Dude, it was so good.
It was, I mean, it wasn't like the best movie that Pixar has ever done, but it was up there.
Like I feel we all have like our favorite Pixar movies that like to us, it's like top
tier Pixar.
If I had like my favorite Pixar movie is like Toy Story 2, that will always be my favorite.
But if I had to say like, like just single movie, no sequel, honestly, I would probably
give it to Inside Out.
That is still like top Pixar for me right there.
You agree.
Inside Out is one of my favorites.
Like I love that movie.
But yeah, this one was, it was good.
It was like, it was heartwarming.
It had like a really good message for like everyone, like kids and adults, I feel.
Yeah, it did.
There you ever like, I don't know, like I was, I was actually on TikTok and like someone
pointed out something that I never even noticed.
Because this movie does actually, I feel like there isn't like any like huge like focuses
on the LGBTQ community.
But there is a scene with Priya and I don't know how I miss this when they're at the party.
Because it's in, it's kind of showcased that she actually might be bisexual because she's
a four-townie, but when she's at the, when she's at like the party that Mae was going
to turn into the panda for Tyler, she starts like kind of like vibing with this goth girl
and they're like really having a good time.
And her like friends are like encouraging her on like giving her thumbs up like go,
go, go.
And it's such a like, now like going back and like watching again, I'm like, this is
such a great moment.
I love that Pixar is working this into this.
I love this.
Yeah, I noticed that the first time I was just like, good for you, Disney.
Yeah.
Like it's not like blatantly out there.
You're not shoving it in our face or anything.
Like not trying to like get this subliminal message out into the world.
Like it's just, it's subtle and it's nice.
It's like, it's super nice.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, it was such a great moment.
And just, yeah.
And I, have you heard how like a lot of people were saying that like this should have actually
been rated PG-13, not PG?
For what?
Cause like the subjects that they go after, like with puberty, with like girls like being
really attracted to boys at May's age, like with her like drawing all of those drawings.
Like a lot of-
Okay, the drawings are the only thing that made me feel like, oh, is this, what's this
rated?
But no, like I did not feel like it ever crossed too far into a PG.
Would you imagine this movie being PG-13?
That'd be ridiculous.
I don't think I could ever imagine a Pixar movie being rated PG-13.
That's just, that would just be so weird.
Like G, okay, yeah.
If this was rated G, I'd be like, okay, yeah, you should have reconsidered this being a
PG film.
Cause there are some elements in this film that you need to revisit and really understand
that yeah, this really isn't, you shouldn't be showing young kids this.
Like this is something for them when they're older down the road.
Yeah, in the PG range.
Yeah, but yeah, PG-13, that's just no.
Too much.
Yeah.
It's just, especially with how little of a scene that was, it was so small and insignificant.
Like if they would have taken it any further than that, I'd probably be like, okay.
See, this is what would have signified them having to rate it PG-13 because they did this
in the Simpsons movie and this can actually, this will, this is not rated R because it's
cartoon is if May drew fricking like actual like nudity on Tyler because in the Simpsons
movie we actually do see Bart's penis.
So yeah, if she drew like any type of nudity, I feel even like the butt, that would have
been too much.
Yes.
So she, well, she did draw him without like a shirt.
See, I think that's fine.
Anything below the waist, that's a little much.
Yeah.
But I mean, overall, like, yes, it was a very racy scene.
Like it made like, it was almost like I shouldn't be watching this.
Seriously though.
Like it's just the way that she was like how much she was like drawing or it's the intensity.
It was the intensity of her drawing.
Dude, the facial expressions that she was giving, she was like drawing under her bed in all
these drawings was just amazing.
Yeah.
Which we'll get into with effects, but.
Oh yeah.
Bro, like so good.
I can't get over like how much I love, like I love that this movie takes place in the
early 2000s and I'm not going to lie, that just makes me feel really freaking old because
people are starting to make movies being flashbacks to the early 2000s with, you know, like Tamagotchis
and stuff like that.
And that just makes me feel really freaking old because that's the shit that I grew up
with.
Yup.
I never had a Tamagotchi, but I know I had quite a few friends that did.
I had a Tamagotchi.
How were they?
I'm always wondering.
They were a blast.
Yeah.
Okay.
My favorite thing to do with mine.
So Tamagotchis had this, had an online world.
Wow.
So if you went online, you could enter a code that your Tamagotchi would give you and your
Tamagotchi would take a trip to the online world.
And then you could go and do like different activities, get them like, like just do like
some random shit, like play games all with your Tamagotchi.
And then when you were done, you would send your Tamagotchi back to your, your device.
Yeah.
It was so cool.
It was like one of the first like things that I ever did that connected something that I
owned in the, in quote unquote, the real world and could play with on the digital world.
And there was just something so awe inspiring to see like I put in a code on this device
and now I'm seeing it on this device.
Like it was so cool.
It was so cool back then.
And you could do like cool stuff too.
So like you could create like an apartment and like have a house and like design that.
And then you could like, it was cool because you could send your Tamagotchi to go do shit
like that.
Like it was so much fun.
It was so much fun.
Like I, if Tamagotchi has made a comeback, I wouldn't be upset in the slightest.
They were, they were so much fun, but I thought they did.
Yeah.
Like a couple years ago, didn't they make a comeback?
Kinda like kind of a knockoff version of Tamagotchi.
I feel that's bullshit.
But yeah, like any time, like it was sad too.
Cause like eventually, like if you stopped taking care of your Tamagotchi, it would die.
And so when you would come back and to your device or come back to your Tamagotchi and
your little pet would be dead, it was, it like was heartbreaking.
That is sad.
I'm not going to lie.
That is sad.
Like the one thing that did kind of fricking suck is whenever you had to start over and
you had like an egg that would take forever to hatch.
Like it was ridiculous how long it took to hatch.
But yeah, I, Tamagotchi's were so much fun and they fricking knocked it on the head with
the mom getting her panda put into a Tamagotchi and having to like feed it like, oh my gosh,
this thing needs constant care.
Like that's exactly how I feel about how I felt about Tamagotchi's.
Like they needed so much fricking care.
But yeah, one, like I got better about like caring for them when I could like upload them.
Okay.
But yeah, they were fun.
If you missed out.
Damn it.
But yeah, this just whole movie with like being said, what did I say 2002, right?
Yep.
Yep, 2002.
God, that yeah, that just makes you feel really fricking old.
So thank you, Pixar.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, no joke.
But yeah, I loved so much the friendship that they set up between these four girls throughout
the whole, I mean, I love that it was like already established.
You know, you don't really get like any like backstory to like how they became friends
and nothing like that.
It's all of a sudden, like literally May walks through the door towards the school and she's
just like besties assemble and she's just pointing to all three of them.
They just come running to her.
I love it so much.
It was so great.
But what else is there to say about this?
What is there any aspects of the story you didn't like that I didn't like?
Yeah.
Ooh, there wasn't a whole lot that I didn't care for.
That's good to hear.
Like, honestly, the only thing that I didn't I did care for was the boy band aspect, but
it was just like I was I'm a boy.
So I've never listened to like an in sync or Backstreet Boys when you were our age.
No.
Like that that type of music never appealed to me.
God, maybe that really did.
God, I was bi back then.
Yeah, like, wow, that just really solidified it for me.
Yeah, CableDem was to do with it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I knew some guys that were into that kind of music.
They weren't as like open about it as these girls were.
But like boy bands were the thing with with girls our age.
That's yeah, that's true.
Like, actually, I think even with for us because we were a little bit past this point.
So if hold on, let's see.
Let me do some quick math.
Geez.
So if if if May was 13 in 2002, that means she was born in 1989.
Wow.
So and then us being born.
What is that six years later or six or seven years later?
Like there were a few things that we missed out on.
Like I think we we missed out almost completely on the major teenage boy band phase.
Because I didn't know too many girls that were into boy bands, but I did know quite
a few that were into like the teen heartthrob.
People see, I really only started listening to like in sync, like in sync and the Backstreet
Boys because of my sister.
Yeah.
Like what year was she born?
Ninety.
So, yeah, she would have been right in that that prime spot.
Yeah.
For boy bands like she would only be a year younger.
Then then May.
Yeah, she's.
Yeah.
So perfect.
Yeah.
So yeah, dealing with that or addressing that like like I said, we we missed out on that.
Like we we were in the transition period, but where I went from like boy bands to the
heartthrob, like I think by the time we were 13, 14 or however old it was when when he
came out, like Justin Bieber was the thing.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
And like everyone and their mother had a crush on on him.
So I never did.
But that's me.
No, because he looked like a little douchebag.
This is true.
He still does.
Yeah, very much so.
But yeah, so like that was the only aspect of this.
I just didn't like quite grasp on to because like I said, we missed it.
Yeah.
I mean, I only grasp onto it just because, you know, I grew up with a sister that was
that makes sense.
Born.
Yeah.
Like I didn't have or I wasn't like close to any of my cousins that would have been
into that stuff.
Because when was Panina born?
I have no idea.
Observant, are you?
I'm just kidding.
Not very like I could get like anytime.
Like the only reason like I just got made me sound like a dick.
I I know when her birthday is, I could give a shit how old she is.
I mean, do you honestly think that she listens to this podcast?
I don't know.
She might.
Well, she does.
First of all, hi, Panina.
And second of all.
I don't know what second of all this.
I have a second of all, but it's not appropriate.
Anyway, moving on.
For Caleb says something that he might regret.
Or at least regret saying on, you know, on the podcast.
That would be arguable.
Anyway.
Fair enough.
Yeah, other than that, I really liked most of the other story aspects.
There wasn't anything I hated.
There was definitely stuff I liked more than others.
But overall, I liked it.
I wish we would have gotten to see more interactions with her dad.
I did, too.
Like I loved what they did with her mom.
Like I really enjoyed that they didn't make her like.
Yes, she was, you know, overprotective.
Wanted her to go into like a certain direction.
But I like that they didn't.
She wasn't unlikable.
I still very much liked her mom.
It never got to the point where I'm just like, well, you know, I just don't like this character.
Honestly, I never I never unliked the character at all, even when it got to the point of where
I did.
I disagreed with what she was what direction she was going with her daughter with like
punishment and everything like that.
And when they bring in the grandmother and the aunts, it's completely explained why she
is the way that she is.
And it's completely understandable.
Yeah, that was one of my favorite scenes when she's talking about like, like right after
May did the presentation on why she should be allowed to go to the the concert.
And then she like grabs all her shit, walks off and like rolls her eyes at her mother.
And she's just like, who does she think she is acting like this?
Like who treats her mother like this and then immediately treats her mother like that?
Like yeah, like she goes picks up the phone.
It's your mother.
I'm not here.
Yeah, yeah, I saw.
So good.
I love that.
No, I absolutely agree with you on the dad, though.
Like, and he has one of the sweetest moments in the movie when he when he sees the footage
of her and her friends just like goofing around and you see like the smile on his face and
he explains like this is like the happiest I've seen you and I love seeing this side.
Like that just like warm my heart.
I'm like, oh, yeah, like he like you understand to where he's coming from, because he was
always in a position of being judged or not like for who he was.
And like, especially when it came to his his mother in law.
And so he like how willing he was to let May be who she was like he he was totally willing
to let her go to the concert and go to school and do all this other stuff with.
With the understanding that she was going to be in control of her abilities.
Or with of her transformations, I should say.
Like what am I freaking talking about?
Like he.
Like I said, he was willing to go along with whatever she wanted to let her be herself
as long as she was able to maintain a level of safety.
Like he was like after they did the they performed the tests on her and was like showing her
those flashcards in the box of kittens and everything.
And he's just like, like, sure, you can go.
Sold me.
Yeah, like, why not?
And it was always.
The mom that was like putting up the.
The fight about it.
Yeah.
So it was all it was nice, like it's seeing him in like that kind of position, because
I feel like.
It's always like Disney grandmas and Disney dads that seem to be harsh.
Like thinking back on till like King Trident or.
I feel like there's another dad somewhere.
Oh, like Mulan.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Her dad was just like, no.
So it's it's it's nice seeing like a Disney dad be encouraging.
And I love that they're taking this route because like they're they're getting into
the the child dynamics that are like.
That have real problems.
Yes, like the mother daughter, like that's a big one.
I would love to see them take on some more father and son ones.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
And then. Like a mother and son would be really interesting, too.
I honestly think I would actually want to see that before a father and son, honestly.
I don't know why.
I think I know why.
I take that back.
Yeah.
Can you say daddy issues?
Exactly.
But yeah, like.
Like and just like just a bunch of other.
Like family dynamics, but I feel like the like I think they nailed the the the father daughter
relationship here because out of all the different dynamics of relationships between parent and
child, the father daughter one is supposedly the easiest like the one that is a Caleb,
though, is that that is from what I understand.
Like everyone's everyone talks about like same same gender relationships are always
have some weirdness to them.
Like mother, mother, daughter, father, son always have something like there's just something
different about those relationships.
OK.
The mother son relationship is also different because.
Unlike the father daughter relationship and a mother son relationship, the mother is going
to end up not the woman in that in the son's life.
Right.
Yeah.
So like at one point, she is going to lose her place in the.
In the hierarchy of.
People with and then like that's how it's it's not quite the same in like a father daughter
relationship because.
A father or a daughter doesn't need to replace her father like she's like it's more she's
gaining a partner, not replacing her father in that role.
Like in in the daughter's eyes, her father is always like the king of the household.
Even when she gets married.
Yeah.
All right.
Like I'm totally simplifying all the shit that I've learned.
But you're doing very well.
That's the general.
Idea of that relationship.
OK.
Like with a mother and son, the mother is like the queen until you find a new queen.
OK, gotcha.
And then like, yeah.
But anyway, I digress.
But I.
I really liked.
What's her name?
Domi, she who is the director of this, her interpretation of everything, because she's
like she does.
She does really great storytelling like and.
From the Asian perspective as well.
Like, yeah, I'm so I'm sorry.
I know you're good.
Yeah, I just thought it was super interesting, like everything.
It's just that the clashing of of a child like coming of age and growing into their
own person and not wanting to let that go.
Yeah.
There's this other study that I've learned where by the age of 12, parents will lose
80 percent of the one on one time with their kids.
Because that's around that's around the age that they start to want to hang out with their
friends more or want to have after school activities or start doing this or that.
And so they they lose a lot of their one on one time with their child by the age of 12.
And so I think this movie was just showing that showing that like that separation, like
the mother, daughter or may and and Ming have always been like tied as thieves.
But eventually it gets to the point where she wants to hang out with her friends more.
She wants to go out and do things that she like she wants to experiment with her life.
Like the way that she was explaining, she wants to experiment with different types of
music, but.
She just wants to go and enjoy the music that she enjoys.
Yeah.
So.
I think that was just something that we saw Ming struggling with a lot.
And you could and I loved, loved the scene.
When they were doing the rich or performing the ritual and May comes across young Ming.
Yeah, that was an amazing scene.
Yeah, like just struggling with all the things that she's struggling with.
Like, oh, my gosh, I'm just like, yes.
Oh, like.
So good.
Such good storytelling there.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
I really don't know what else to say about the story.
It's so good.
The fact that this is so the director of this, she actually directed the Pixar short that
came out a couple of years ago called Bow, the one with about the the mother that you
have dumpling.
Yep.
That that.
Yep.
But, you know, of course, it turns out to be a metaphor or because, you know, that that's
how she feels with her son and him leaving and all that jazz.
Super cute short.
Really, really, really good.
And I feel this was a huge I think this was a great stepping stone for her with being
able to direct this movie.
Yeah.
I completely forgot that she addressed the the father or the father's mother, mother,
son relationship.
And she did a really good job with that, too, in such a short time.
Yeah.
So she's she kills it with with these kind of stories.
Yeah.
And it's nice seeing the the cultural differences, too.
Like culturally, it is like very Western.
Like we haven't seen anything where it's like an arranged marriage or anything, which I
feel a total side note, like an arranged marriage love story would be crazy to see.
Yeah, that would be like if anyone has a good arranged marriage relationship movie to recommend,
I would love to hear them.
But anyway, yeah, she she does she does really good at like applying culture to relationships.
Absolutely.
Like, I love that they didn't dive too heavily into the the Asian culture and like the honoring
of your your ancestors.
Like I feel like they could have just like saturated the movie with with that kind of
stuff.
Yeah.
But it was it was like nice.
It was just like very subtle.
And we understood most of it.
Like I obviously we don't understand the intricacies of it, but we understood like the general
idea of everything.
Yes.
But I agree.
I really like this story.
I didn't have very many problems with it.
Neither did I.
Shit.
Am I like super high on this?
I was initially coming into this thinking I was going to give it in like the high 80s,
but I think I might have talked myself up.
Hell yeah.
Where are you at?
I personally I'm in the high 90s and the high 90s.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Low 90s.
I apologize.
Oh, I was going to say like like good for you.
So personally, personally, I am going to give this a 93 for your story.
That is actually almost exactly where I'm at.
I'm just one point lower at a 92.
Hell yeah.
Sweet.
Yeah.
So that averages is out to a 92.5.
Moving on over to writing.
I feel the writing was just as strong as the story.
I do too.
There wasn't anything that stood out too much, but I did realize that there was not very
much wasted dialogue.
There was not.
And the biggest thing that I was afraid of with the writing for this, especially with
me, was she might I felt even though she's 13 and when you're 13, you're obnoxious.
You're a teenager.
So of course you're going to be kind of a little bit of annoying to some other people.
But honestly, she never was annoying to me.
And I feel that's like a remarkable fleet feat, whatever for Pixar to accomplish because
with all the advertisements, I'm sure a lot of people thought that, oh my gosh, she's
just going to be the most annoying Pixar character ever.
But turns out, no, she's actually I feel a truly compelling character.
And the writing for her is just incredible.
It's so, so good.
Yeah.
I gosh, the writing was so interesting.
The only one that I feel I'm going to dock for, and it was just because there was a lot
of stuff that she said that I needed subtitles for.
And this was Jin, the Korean friend, the one that was like super hyper.
There was a lot.
I think it was Jin.
No, that's Abby.
It was Abby?
Yeah.
Which one?
Which one was Jin?
Wait, okay.
Wait, the Asian friend?
Shit, one second.
No, you're good.
I freaking love that someone posted or what?
This website posts a picture of the characters.
Little Chi Chi.
Oh, Jin is the dad.
Whoops.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it was Abby.
Okay.
Dude, this is so funny.
Have you seen pictures of the actresses?
No, huh?
They look exactly like their character.
Other than Miriam.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay, I gotta look this up now.
Yeah.
That's cool.
That's super cool.
But yeah, Abby.
Abby was like the super hyper Korean friend.
And there was a lot of stuff that she's like, she spoke really fast.
And I don't really think that was her.
It's hard for me to consider that a writing issue.
I mean, she had some of the best lines though.
Like when when they are admiring that kid at the the little convenience store, she's
just like, my mom, my mom said that she cut his hair, I got to feel it.
It's very soft.
She loses it.
I love it.
And then the other two besides May is just like, Oh, come on, girl, hook girl up.
Like, you got to give us some I'm just like, you know what, that is truly something a 13
year old would say.
Dude, I loved the line where they were talking about Fortown or where May was like, it's
Fortown like, like we're four townies and and talking about that.
And they're just like, yeah, but going to see Fortown is like a million dollars and
Devon's free.
Yeah, no, it's so great.
Yeah, because yeah, free is just like, yeah, he's right there.
Yeah, Abby chimes in and free.
Her facial movements just like make it so great and her like emphasis on using her hands.
Yeah, the only character that I feel was like even slightly wasted, at least writing wise
was Devon.
Because I feel like he was just kind of like a throwaway character.
Yeah, you think that like maybe we would have revisited like him, you know, discovering
the pictures that she drew or like at least like doing something with that.
I OK, I do feel like they couldn't do that with the age difference.
Like how do you handle that?
Well, I mean, I don't mean like that, but no, like like I'm not even talking like, oh,
he suddenly like has feelings for May or anything.
I'm just talking like, how do you address those drawings like do you do you like because
either way you make him look like a douchebag or a pervert.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, you got a point there because you can't go back and show him like, oh, he hated them.
Because that's true.
Oh, douchebag.
And then you can't show him like liking him or hanging him up because then you're like,
that's pervy.
Yeah.
So I guess it is a good thing that literally the only thing that we ever see him do is
just like have like a wide eyed expression on his face when he sees him at first.
Yeah, like like any normal person would.
Yeah.
Okay, there now that I think of it, there's something that is like writing wise that I
didn't care for when she was running past the convenience store as a panda.
And then she like starts thumping her leg and like does that like that was dumb.
That was that was a little much.
Yeah, it was funny, but kind of dumb.
So I mean, I'll dock for that, but not like a whole lot.
Yeah, because I was fine with like the only joke like really being with her being in fact,
not in fact, but like realizing that, oh, shit, I actually do think it's hot.
He's hot.
And then when like during the whole like scene when she's at her computer and she's like
drawing, he's just like, you know what, like even his arms aren't great.
But you know, like maybe he has nice abs and just she's like looking over her drawing and
she like takes over takes off her headphones.
And then she grabs the notebook and presses it up against her and stands up and then just
like under her bed and like continues to draw.
Gosh, that.
I love the part where she it's not able to go under the the bed fully.
And her mom, of course, comes in because, you know, of course, you know, an officer
snag and she keeps telling herself, don't look at the notebook, don't look at the notebook.
And she does just like I like it shouldn't be funny, but it's fricking hilarious.
It was that I felt that was super well written.
It's just like the way that she's just like super small pupils and then like shoots down
just like super quick.
And then she's like, no, because she knows damn well her her mom was just like, oh, it's
like, oh, oh, oh.
So I thought the scene there were a couple of scenes that I thought were like really
well done in getting across the emotions that they wanted to.
When Ming took the the pictures that have been made, drew to the gas station or to the
convenience store.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, I had such bad secondhand embarrassment.
I love it.
Like this when she pulled out the pictures, I was just like, no, like I was like right
there with me.
The fact that and she's like they like slow it down as she's putting the paper.
It's just so perfect.
Yeah, it's just like exactly what she was saying.
She's just like, it's fine.
It's fine.
You just have to move and change your name.
I was just like, you can never go back there ever again.
So I really like that scene because, like I said, secondhand embarrassment.
And the scene right after she or right during Ming getting mad at her friends.
Right after she attacked Tyler.
Oh, yeah.
So and getting on her friends like for corrupting her daughter and everything.
And this like sitting there with with May and there she's just like, wait, that's not
true.
Like, like trying to give me the opportunity to just kind of own up and be like, yeah,
this is like it was my idea and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But not just the silence.
Like not trying to go, but and then not saying anything.
It's just this the silent and then it's just the shameful look because she like she knew
like, yeah, like the second her friends saw that, like they knew.
And it was just knowing that if I were in that same situation back at 13, that is exactly
how I would have reacted.
Like I I would have let my mom frickin rip into good friends of mine because I was too
much of a coward to speak up.
Wow.
See how it is.
I don't think we knew each other at 13, do we?
I don't think so.
What did we?
I don't know.
I think we knew of each other, if anything.
Yeah, because we didn't become friends till like ninth grade.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, because we had health class together in like eighth grade.
Right.
P.E. Oh, and health.
Yeah, we did have health.
Oh, yeah, because you were coach Steph's like teacher assistant.
Yeah.
Anyway.
But yeah, that's like from a child that doesn't know how to speak up to against their parent.
That is exactly how I would have handled that entire interaction.
So I'm like, well played.
Just think if we knew each other back then, he did that.
This podcast might not be happening.
We might not be friends anymore.
Yeah.
Well, I was never as brave as May and even like attempted to do bad things.
Oh, OK.
All right.
Like I didn't start doing.
I can't even call it bad.
Like I didn't start doing my own thing until a little later.
Yeah, other than that, I think everyone else was really well used.
Maybe the antis were a bit much, but that's fair.
But I feel like that was kind of the point.
Yeah, it was definitely the point.
So it's hard to get upset about it.
But I dug it.
As did I.
But yeah, I think you ride on.
I think maybe the writing for me might be a little bit lower.
Like instead of a 92, I think I'm at a 90.
OK.
Yeah, for me, I would agree.
Same thing, a little lower.
So I'm a 91.
All right.
Well that averages us out to a 90.5.
Next up we got acting.
So the cast for this, we have Rosalie Chang, who played Mei Lin.
Sandra Oh, who played her mother Ming.
Ava Morse, who played Miriam, who is Mei Lin's friend.
Ryan Park, who also played another one of her friends, Abby.
Bloody hell.
I do not want to say that.
Maitreyi Ramakrishnan, who played Priya.
Orion Lee, who played Jin.
And then Wei Qinghou, who played the grandma.
Then any others you wanted to include?
One that I would want to include is James Hong, who played the voice of Mr. Gao.
Yes.
I love him.
It's Gao, right?
Isn't that how they said it?
Yeah, Mr. Gao.
Yeah.
Because not only do I love this actor, but I love Mr. Gao in this movie.
Yeah.
I have a feeling we're going to have very similar top three.
So who's your top three?
Number three.
Sorry, let me pull this cast up again.
I apologize.
Damn, this is hard.
You know what?
Number three I'm going to give to Ava Morse, who played Miriam.
I really liked her character and I loved her voice.
I thought she did a great job.
Number two, just because I loved her expressions.
She just put so much emphasis into certain words and I just loved it so much.
So my three is actually going to be Haiyan Park, so Abby.
And then number one I would give to Rosalie Chang.
Does that say her last name, Chang?
I think so.
As Mei Lin.
Okay, you know what?
I'm sorry.
Can I change my third?
Sure.
So actually, I would bump down Ava Morse to four and then I would actually give number
three to Sandra Oh, because she was so good as the mom.
Okay.
So that's my top three.
Yeah.
So my number three, I would actually give to Orion Lee, who played Jin.
Okay.
Mei Lin's dad.
I love it.
I loved how soft spoken he was.
And I just loved his character overall and the way that he was talking to Mei Lin, it
was just very non-judgmental.
He did the same thing with me.
Very non-judgmental.
Very just soft and kind and just wholesome overall.
My number two, I probably have to give to Sandra Oh, who played Ming.
I thought she did a really good job at playing that overbearing helicopter mom.
I felt like she sold the relationship really well, because I feel like other overbearing
like helicopter parents that we've seen kind of oversell it.
Like they just kind of get too enthusiastic about it and it's like, okay, now it doesn't
feel quite real.
Like you can't feel or hear the love behind what they're saying or what they're doing.
But with her, like you could definitely tell that there was like a lot of love behind everything
that she said.
Like even when it was like the mathletes thing, like she just wanted to go and like encourage
her daughter.
Yeah.
It wasn't anything like vicious.
It wasn't anything like bad for her to want.
It just happened to be like Mae just didn't want her there.
I mean, obviously because it was a lie, but still.
Yeah, it was just like she really sold the love for me.
And I feel like that's a really hard thing for people to pull off.
So I loved her performance there.
And then, yeah, my number one, same as you, giving it to Malin.
She was such a gem.
So like I was afraid too that she was going to be annoying.
I'm like, because there was a trailer that came out that she's just like, oh yeah, like
I'm an adult or at least according to the Toronto like bus system, it is like adult
13 to however old.
You know, 65.
Yeah.
So I'm like, like, I feel like that kids who think that they're adults that are like 13
are annoying to me.
Yeah, that's fair.
So I think like the only part of her dialogue that got on my nerves and it was just it was
the beginning.
Like the way that she was describing like, I do what I want to say what I want 24 7 3
65.
I'm like, gosh, shut up.
But it got so much better after she's just like, if I want to do a cartwheel, I'm going
to do a cartwheel.
And she like falls on her face and then just started picking up her shit.
I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've ever heard crap in a Pixar movie.
Really?
I'm pretty sure at least to me.
I don't think I've ever heard crap said any in any in any other Pixar movie.
Hmm.
Yeah, I I really dug dug that.
Like they were able to like off.
There was a lot of balance in this movie that I noticed.
Like the Miriam was like perfectly like centered of like enthusiastic and calm.
Like she was just like a perfect center.
And then they were able to do the same thing with Priya and Abby, where Priya was just
completely unenthusiastic or it felt like that very monotone.
And when and then the complete opposite end of that spectrum was Abby, where she was
just over hyped about everything.
And I just loved that that yin and yang.
Yes, I absolutely agree.
I hope that's not like appropriation type shit.
But you know what I mean?
Just that perfect balance.
Like any everything that like Abby did that was super annoying, Priya off centered or
like brought back by being like completely monotone.
Yeah, we'll get into some of her her effects because I really want to talk about Priya.
But yeah, it's just they did a really good job at like balancing everything.
Yes, like I feel where even with like the grandma and Ming, like the grandma was just
perfection for perfection sake, where Ming was perfection for like for love's sake.
Like you could always like find like a really good balance in this movie.
And it was great.
Yeah, where are you at with acting?
I really didn't have any.
I don't really have any problems with like the only thing character that I could think
of that I was the biggest fan of with like, and it's not even like the voice acting because
he did a great job was Tyler, just because I found him annoying as hell.
So I can't dock it for that.
Yeah, because he did a great job.
Yeah, so you know, the voiceover artists did an amazing job at that.
So you know what, I'm going to actually go slight I'm going to go higher than my story.
I'm going to go 94.
Wow.
Yeah, I just looked up this kid's acting credit.
And this is his first like, big role.
Keep it up kid, you're doing a great job.
Yeah, like he like his first credit was in 2020.
But he has like some big stuff under his his name.
It's just like not big roles.
Like he was in WandaVision as the voice of a commercial kid.
Okay, or just commercial kid, not voice of yet commercial kid.
And then he was in the Kaminsky method.
In one episode.
He was in Ron's Gone Wrong as additional voice.
Diary of a Wimpy Kid, the 2021 version as additional voice.
Poor kid.
Yeah, so this is like his first big thing.
All right, awesome.
That's cool.
That's really cool.
Gosh, I like the main cast was amazing.
Like if I was grading the main cast alone, and the main cast being May, her mom and dad
and her friends, I would probably be in the mid 90s, around like 94 95 range, because
they did that good of a job.
Where I'm going to dock is some of the extras.
Like I think a lot of the other high school students were overacting just a bit.
Like especially the ones where they were the OMG girl.
I don't know what the hell her name was.
But yeah, so just just them and the like some of the like the teacher, the math teacher,
like just didn't quite sell it.
Like some people had too much enthusiasm.
Some people had like not enough.
It's just they brought it down a little bit.
So I think for acting, I'm going to be down in like the 88.
Okay, fair enough.
All right, and that averages us out to a 91 for acting.
All right, next up we have character development.
So I think we definitely have to do May Lin.
I don't know.
I thought I thought the dad really.
I thought you were going to say the mom.
I'm like, we honestly could be discussed things with her too.
But but I feel one of the biggest things that I loved about May's character development
is because I mean, of course, you know, at the beginning, you see her as a kid that,
you know, wants to be herself, wants to hang out with her friends, but she still wants
to, you know, respect her mom, be there for her mom.
And so she like when she's offered to go to karaoke with her friends, she's just like,
oh, but it's cleaning day, you know, like I like cleaning, you know, I'm going to go
help my mom and just once she, you know, gets the the red panda, she finally gets to explore
who she really is as a person.
And it's really great character arc, seeing how far she comes from from the beginning
to the end.
And I especially love at the end when she says, you know, I'm still very close with
my parents and things are different.
And sometimes I do wish that they could go back to how they used to be, or, you know,
I didn't really hang out with my friends a lot outside of I didn't hang out with my friends
outside of school.
You know, I was, you know, always just a goody two, not goody two shoes.
But I was at my mom's like beck and call when it came to anything that she needed regarding
the temple.
Just she was a picture perfect child.
And I just love that she mentions that, you know, like I said, that someday she wishes
that she could go back to that.
But she knows that she can't.
And she feels that that's okay, because she feels that this is the direction that she
wants her life to go in.
And she thinks that this is the direction that it should be going in because she is
finally being herself.
And so I think it's an it's it's good.
She's I think it's it is an incredible character arc.
I really, really enjoyed it.
And yeah.
Yeah, like hard to argue there.
She like everyone they did a really good job at telling a story of growth, like at the
end, it didn't end happy.
Like not everyone was like happy with where they were.
Like you said, they weren't like, oh, yeah, everything's like better than it was like,
no, it's not better than it was.
It's not worse than it was.
It's different now.
And I think that's like a huge, like crazy distinction because it's not happily ever
after which I feel like talking about the most recent movie in Canto or in Canto, she
like that movie kind of ended on a like and everyone lived happily ever after kind of
the.
Yeah.
And this one, it didn't.
And it was it was very.
It was refreshing.
It was it was it wasn't.
Like they just they didn't oversell.
Like they went reality like they try.
I feel like they try to keep the emotional tones of this very realistic.
Like they.
Yeah, like they.
Yeah, I just like you said, I think they did a really, really good job at telling Maylin's
story of growth and being able to have that freedom to like that openness and freedom
because you could tell that she didn't like lying to her parents, but she eventually got
to a point where she didn't need to.
And like in that, she was like a lot happier, like not feeling like she needed to hide anything
or not be who she truly is.
She got to be open about what she wanted, got to go out and do the things that she wanted
to do.
And damn it, if it wasn't a great arc.
Shit, I talked myself up with this one, too.
Hell, yeah, that's what I love to hear.
Where are you at?
I'm shocker and I would say like the low 90s, but still pretty, pretty easily.
Hi, I'm going to go 92.
That is actually exactly where I was at, too.
Oh, hell yeah.
All right, so that averages our development or character development score to a 92.
Awesome.
All right, moving on over to effects where I feel we're going to have a freaking blast
talking about this.
Which one, what do you want to discuss first?
Hell, I don't.
Dude, I don't even know.
I mean, OK, I got one freaking how I talked about earlier where when Mae just bursts into
school and she's this like besties assemble and she points to Marion first and it like
does like a freeze frame and like it almost felt like they were going to do like freaking
like character stats, but they don't.
They don't.
It's just like a free.
It's just like a freeze frame and then like says her name, but they do it for like every
one of her friends.
So it goes Miriam and then it goes.
Oh my God, what's Priya?
And then it goes to Abby and just I love with Abby.
She's like, yeah, like because.
Oh my God, Miriam is like freaking like eating something so it like pauses on her, like stuffing
her mouth and then Priya, I think isn't she just like reading a book?
Yeah, and so I just kind of like lowers the book a little bit so you can see her face
and then Abby's is like my favorite because she's like yelling at someone and I believe
Chinese or Korean Korean.
Sorry.
That's what that no, that's just what the subtitle said.
Oh, OK.
Thank you.
I just saw that off the top of my head.
So she's yelling at someone in Korean, but then she sees May and just the way she's like,
May, what's that girl?
And she puts like her like two fingers up to her eye and that's when it freezes at her.
I just freaking loved it.
Yeah, it's like just straight up does like an anime pose.
Yeah, it's it's so great.
Yeah, like this was a perfect fusion of Disney and.
Oh, what was it you said?
Studio Ghibli.
Ghibli.
Ghibli, sorry.
You're good.
I remember.
I remember that I lost that that that our poll.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, just like you lost the poll stereo over stereo.
I will freaking kill you.
Yeah, it was like the it was like a perfect combination of the two.
And it wasn't like overdone either.
It wasn't like in your face like.
Like sometimes it was, but not in like in a crazy anime way.
Yeah, like I love the nods that we got to certain things like when you're seeing May's
dad making dinner and he like he's doing all like the seasonings and stuff, chopping it's
like all close up, just like food porn shots of it.
And then you like it pans up like you see him dropping stuff into the pan and it like
pans up and then you see like the white sunglasses or the the white of his glasses.
So it's kind of like the anime glare.
And then like he's like looks up and his glasses are all like steamed up.
I thought that was so funny.
It was great.
Like I was just like, oh, they just went like full anime dad with with him.
And then they like did that scene where I'm like, oh, it's just steam.
Like I I'm not the biggest fan of anime.
Same.
There's only been a handful of of animes that I've actually liked and watched.
But I know all those like little tropes that they have.
So seeing that one was just hilarious.
I love that.
I love the big like anime eyes.
Anytime they saw something cute or something that they liked.
I thought I was going to hate the scene where like the mom and dad are testing her and they
bring in the kittens and she does like the huge eyes.
And that just made me laugh even harder.
It was so funny.
My favorite reaction, though, is when they are finally at the concert and Four Town comes
out and they like are sitting there just like in shock and then they like big, big anime
eyes like snotty nose, like crying.
Yeah, that was just fantastic.
It was so funny.
Like I love this because it's something we've never seen out of Pixar before.
And I think they did it so well.
This is like a new favorite animation style for me.
Oh, same here.
Yeah, yeah, I loved it.
Yeah.
And they made May's panda look just so freaking soft.
Seriously.
I feel bad, though, for like the people that had to animate the fur on that thing because
holy shit, I'm sure that was having to animate Sully in Monsters Inc.
No joke.
But the work was well paid off.
Oh, absolutely.
It is so hard for me to think of any like one thing that I didn't like about this.
Dude, I just I love that and I always love when they add this kind of thing and like
not in just animation, but in live action, when they're like doing like the title sequence
for it and like, you know, like it has the you know, like turning red and then it has
her leaning on it and then she like it collapses and she falls over whenever they do something
like that when a character like leans on the title card and then it breaks and falls like
falls apart.
I think that is freaking hilarious and so I love that they did that with the animation
of this movie.
Yeah, the the title sequence like that title part of the title sequence.
It was unexpected for me because you like I can't think of another movie where they
interact with the title like that other than like in a trailer.
OK, maybe I am thinking just trailers here.
Yeah, like you're right.
It's super funny when they do that, like it's never failed to get a laugh out of me.
I don't think I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but.
Yeah, it's it's good.
It's really good.
Geez, I want to talk about Priya real fast because of how like monotone she is.
She always kind of has just like a glazed over look or just like not very enthusiastic
look.
Like her eyes are kind of always like half shut.
And it was so funny because they still gave her the reactions that all the other girls
were having.
Like the big like wide eye just glowing eyes like they were still doing that with her half
closed eyes.
And it was hilarious.
Like I started paying attention to her like with the second viewing, I was paying attention
to her during scenes like that and her reactions are freaking funny.
But oh my gosh, overall, like I think they did an amazing job with all the animation.
Yeah, no, I absolutely agree.
This is like Caleb said, this is definitely something different for Pixar animation wise.
And yeah, they they fricking knocked it out of the park.
Yeah.
Gosh, like I think they just nailed everything.
Like one thing that I've I notice in.
In anime a lot is when a character gets caught off guard and is told to like move or do something.
And this was like something that happened between grandma and May's dad is when she
was like, Jen, clear off the table.
And he was like caught off guard and like, and like, kind of like, did like a hopping
around like knees up and everything or like in a circle.
Yeah, I don't know what it is about that.
I thought that was like I love shit like that.
I don't know why, but it's just.
It's interesting to watch.
Like this whole movie is interesting to watch.
Like just because there's so much like different animation styles that like like we've said,
you don't you've never seen before.
Makes me want to go back and rewatch it over and over and over because there's there's
shit I miss.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Gosh, it's really hard for me to like dock the effects for anything.
Where are you at?
I'm pretty freaking high.
So you know what?
I'm going to make this my highest score so far.
I'm going to go a 95.
So it wants to work for me.
I'm going to go a tad bit lower.
I'm going to go to 94.
OK, fair enough.
Yeah, I thought I thought it was good.
It's just for me, not quite at 95 or 95 level.
And that's comparing like.
I gave you in Kanto in 93.
Is this better than it?
I think it was better than in Kanto or in Kanto.
Not cool.
It was like because like I said, in Kanto, we gave I gave a 93.
OK, so so I 94 94 is where I'm putting this one.
I like it.
It's just it was slightly better.
Because like in Kanto had like the stereotypical Disney animation.
Yeah.
And just it didn't quite add anything new like this movie did.
That's fair.
Yeah, that's fair.
I would agree with that.
All right.
Next up, we got music.
Oh, bloody hell.
Or are you not a four townie?
No, that's not the song stuck in my head.
The rest of the soundtrack is not.
Like top notch.
Like it's it's no Randy Newman.
No, absolutely not.
It's like the the music fits and everything.
It is what it is.
But I think if the song was not as catchy as it was, I would probably be at a seven.
But unfortunately, it is a very catchy song.
So you're going an eight.
I think I'm going to an eight.
Because they only have like I would be at an I would be at a nine if they like the soundtrack
was like if it had like one more song to it.
OK, but the fact that they only have the one song that they just kind of play over and
over and over again.
And that's kind of why it's I mean, they do have I think there's actually like two or
three songs that four town does actually sing.
Do they really?
I thought it was just the one.
No, I actually looked up on Spotify, the soundtrack.
There's like three songs that they actually sing in this movie.
OK, then.
Yeah, I'm definitely at an eight because the songs all sounded the same.
Yeah.
And I would agree with you.
I'm at an eight as well.
Like I honestly thought like.
If they were singing different songs throughout, I thought it was the same song, just different
parts of that song.
That's fair.
That is fair.
So, yeah, I am more than happy sitting at an eight.
I mean, but damn you for getting real close to that nine.
I love it.
All right.
Next up, we got costumes.
So with an animated movie like this is just going to be character design.
Oh, I love the character designs.
Dude, they.
They did really, really good.
Yeah, like they have the silhouette down to a fricking T.
They do do a lot of these outfits that the girls were wearing.
I'm just like, oh, my God.
Yeah, that just screams early 2000s.
Yeah, right.
Gosh.
I don't know.
Everyone looked super good.
Like the pandas all looked really good.
OK, I will dock for the other pandas.
OK, so like the the grandparent or grandma and the the aunts and I guess means to because
they the pandas all kind of have like weird hair.
Which I guess is like a big complaint, but I think that kind of worked with all their
characters.
Yeah, yeah, at least to me.
Kind of differentiated them so you could would be able to tell them all apart.
OK, I guess I feel like the the aunt and the grandma, the aunts and the grandma, their
panda heights were honestly all the same.
The only ones that were different were Mings and definitely means.
Yeah, or Mings and Maze.
Because I mean, May was the shortest one of them all.
Yeah, Mane freaking being a freaking mega zord height.
Oh, my gosh, dude, I want to know what at what point like I kind of like it's kind of
the same thing I want from the encounter dads are like the parents.
I want like a backstory on like under what circumstances were did.
Mane.
Turn into like the big panda.
Because I thought they got rid of like is the age that the panda thing happens like
usually in the teens or is it like later in life or like what's what's the situation with
that because like how did how did Jen see it?
That's a good point, because I mean, Mings brings up that she thought she had she had
more time.
She didn't expect it to be this soon.
So considering that May is 13, right?
Yes.
So I would assume maybe like 14 or 15, probably 15 is when it happens.
I don't know.
It seemed like she felt like there was a lot more time, maybe 16.
That's what I'm thinking.
So unless Jen and Ming like saw each other at or met each other by like 16, 16, 17, then
I would I would I want the backstory on like the circumstances of why or of how Jen saw
Mings Panda.
Because now thinking about it when May approaches Ming, you know, when they're in the I don't
know what the hell it's called.
Like the place where you go when you separate the Panda from you.
I just call that maybe like the ritual realm.
Okay, I like that the ritual realm realm.
I don't know her like now thinking about it the way that her character design looked,
she looked about 16.
She definitely looked a lot older than May, May's character.
You got a point there.
So where, yeah, so okay, so that just gives me like more stuff like was where they like
middle school sweethearts.
Like what was the deal there?
You know what turning red to I don't know.
Or maybe that can just be a Disney plus spin off.
Just turn that into a spin off.
What age did Ming and shit what's the dad's name?
Then truly me and fell in love.
That's the Pixar short that we want to see next.
I think they freaking nailed it with the character design.
I absolutely agree.
I'm going to go to a 10.
Just because I do feel like they did have some like costumes wise with some of the extras
like I'm not going to give them like a full 10.
I think it's it's up there.
Wait, I think the design.
What?
No, because you said I'm going to give it a 10 but I'm not going to give it a full 10.
Did I did I say that?
Yeah.
Whoops.
I meant to say I know I would.
Yeah, I'm giving it a nine.
That's what I'm saying.
And I'm going to give it the same.
But that was really funny.
She's freaking feel stupid.
Dude, it's almost midnight where you are.
It's understandable.
Yeah.
All right.
Last up, we got our own personal score for it.
You want me to take this one?
If you want to.
Okay.
So overall, this is a this is such a great Pixar movie.
I loved this movie.
Like I told Caleb, honestly, with like the last three Pixar movies I've released.
So Soul, Luca, and now Turning Red.
This is actually number one for me.
Then Soul, then Luca.
Like, I don't know, the more I watched Luca, don't get me wrong, I liked Luca.
It's just it's it's definitely not a favorite of Pixar's for me.
Doesn't make me like it any less.
But it's definitely not one that I will revisit that many times, whereas I see myself coming
back to Turning Red quite a bit.
So you know what, because you know what, I'm going to go at ninety five.
Wow.
Yeah.
A one point below Encanto.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, like there's a lot to go back and rewatch this movie for.
Like I so I first watched the movie the day it came out on the 11th.
OK.
Watch it the first time.
I thought it was great.
And then I rewatch it again today.
And it felt like a like a new viewing experience.
Like I knew all the the ins and outs of the story, all the twists and whatever.
But I think it was a really well paced movie.
Really interesting.
Got into some like really deep themes.
And honestly, it was a lot better than I was expecting it to be.
I had a feeling it was going to be on the same level as like Soul and Luca.
But I think it exceeded those as well.
Like this being my personal grade, I am going a little lower, but not like too low.
Like I'm.
I think I'm going to be at like an eighty eight.
I'm just shy of a ninety.
So yeah.
But that averages our personal score out to a ninety one point five.
Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
So that concludes this week's breakdown.
So the final Albrose letter grade for Turning Red has come to a.
And a minus.
I'll be 100 percent real.
This is I thought it was going to be a B plus.
But is it that close?
It's it's fairly close.
OK.
Like it's point eight percent away from from a B.
Plus.
So it is sitting at a ninety point eight seven percent.
Wow.
Yeah.
Which is really freaking good.
So comparing this to other.
A minus movies that we've scored.
This puts it.
Below.
The untrained eye crash and Taz Spider-Man far from home score.
Sorry guys.
Which is that it.
No, it's it's above that.
Oh.
Or there's that score is above turning red.
Damn.
So turning red is at a ninety point eight seven five and their far from home score by
themselves is adding ninety point nine three.
OK.
It also puts it below how to train your dragon the hidden world which is adding 91.
OK.
It's below Once Upon a Time in Hollywood which is adding ninety one point one.
It's below Shung Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings which is adding ninety one point
two.
And then it is also below Coco which is adding ninety one point four.
Like I'm wondering what other.
Like animated movies it's below.
So this is like so it is two percent below.
In Kanto.
OK.
And then there is a point two percent difference between.
Or not point two.
It's point four.
A point four percent difference from Coco.
So not bad.
And then this puts it above Tusk which is adding ninety point seven nine.
Puts it above Promising Young Woman which is adding ninety point seven five.
It's above Little Women which is adding ninety point six one.
All right.
It's above 1917 which is adding ninety point three seven.
And then just because we brought it up earlier it is above Us and Soul which are both adding
ninety point two five.
OK.
Wait us.
Yeah.
Wait.
The Jordan Peele movie.
We did bring up us.
I don't remember that.
No.
I was just saying us and and soul.
Oh OK.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
They're they're just at that like exactly the same score.
OK.
Sorry I was I was getting confused my way.
Why are you putting us in there if like we're comparing it with soul.
I was getting confused.
My bad.
No sorry.
I don't mind.
I was just worried that weird.
But yeah.
So soul soul and turning red there's a point six percent difference between them.
But turning red is on top.
All right.
And I'm OK with that.
Yeah I'm actually fine with that too.
I after you you asked me that I did do some pretty decent reflection.
Yeah I think turning red has a lot more going for it than soul.
But yeah anyway that's that's where it's sitting.
A 90.87.
No.
I believe that concludes this week's episode unless Caleb do you have anything else that
you want to add.
No.
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Uncharted starring Tom Holland and Mark Wahlberg.
Hell yeah.
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Deuces.
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