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What is up bros?

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Welcome to the All Bros Podcast.

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I'm Caleb and unfortunately Rose is not here this week.

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But we do have a very special guest joining us today.

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Ben from the Angry Dad Podcast.

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Angry Dad Podcast.

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Ben, like, would you like to introduce yourself?

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Oh yeah.

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Hey, I'm the Angry Motherfucking Dan and thank you for having me on, brother.

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I appreciate it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Me and Caleb like to share TikToks all day.

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Oh yeah.

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Dude, like, I feel like, like you and DJ are the ones that I send like the most TikTok

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or the only people I send TikToks to.

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But I went like a little while.

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I think it might have been on yours, but like sending like a ton in a row without like anything

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back and I was like, oh shit, did they stop using TikTok?

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Like, now I feel silly.

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I wouldn't because I do it all the time, man.

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Every time I see something funny, I don't even think about send DJ send send, like no

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context here.

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And it's always good.

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So I can't, you know, I'm saying I'm like, I know this is fire.

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And so when I know I'm going to be Sammy, I'm like, it's going to be good.

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Yeah, you're the TikToks you send are great.

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Like, I think there's only been like a couple that I've missed and it's just because I'll

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click on it and be like video no longer available.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes it happens like that because sometimes it should be like, oh, OK, all of a sudden.

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Oh, hi, baby.

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Yeah, because I'm working on my second TikTok now where it's like because the first one

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got banded and then now I'm like, OK, now I got a you know, I had a nice following on

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TikTok and tickled.

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I was like, no more.

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You got to love that stuff, man.

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I do like the videos that I'll see you post, though, like the ones with your dogs are great.

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Oh, yeah.

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And let me tell you right now, I can say I have two pit bulls, one's retarded and one's

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stupid.

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So, you know, I'm saying, you know, one one beefy, he's my brown one and he just has his

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shitty grin on his face 24 7.

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It's just what it is.

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He's just like this just like numb to the world.

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Like not give me a cookie.

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And then my other dog, he'll just look at me, look at him, be like, why is he does?

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Why is he so dumb?

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Oh, you got to love those dogs even more, though.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, he's just like, oh, it's just I treat those dogs better than I treat my kids.

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That's usually the case.

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I mean, you know, that's definitely true for my for my parents, dogs.

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I think they got treated way better than we did.

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Oh, yeah.

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I go to the store like the kids are all we need this.

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I'm not the dogs needed treats.

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Sorry.

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Oh, well, this week we don't have anything in 4K spotlight.

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I don't think because Rose isn't here and that's his job.

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And we don't have anything to discuss in through the wall.

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So I said we get straight into this week's breakdown to talk about this interesting movie.

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Yes.

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Interesting.

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Yes.

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And you know, the store I've tried to get so many people to watch this movie with me

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because, you know, I do have a second podcast where it's called your dad's action movie

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podcast and this falls into it so heavily.

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But I'd be like, hey, watch this movie, come join me.

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And everyone's like, OK, and then never respond.

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And then I threw it at I threw it towards you and you're like, yes, let's sign this

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up.

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I'm always down for a good recommendation.

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Like, I mean, the movies that we've discussed, like we get all types of movies, like we get

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like ones that are really good recommended to us.

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We get ones that are super shitty recommended to us.

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Like, we're down for anything.

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Like if there's a movie that someone thinks is worth watching, like we'll watch the hell

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out of it.

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Everyone has those little gems in their pocket.

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We're like, oh, you didn't know.

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Oh, but yeah, this was this was an interesting one.

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But yeah, like let's say we get right into it.

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Hey, guys, I'm Crash, host of the podcast Crash & Tez's Movie Seller.

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On our show, me and my co-host pick a new movie each week and rate each movie on a few

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categories that we think are important to making a great movie.

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After we rate the movie, it gets a final rating and that lands it somewhere on our seller

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scale where it will get labeled as either a well premium or a top show film.

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Watch us on platforms like Spotify, Google, Amazon Music and more and don't forget to

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Overall, don't forget to follow or subscribe and rate and review us and get ready for an

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See you guys then.

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Alright, well if you guys haven't figured it out by the title of this episode, we are

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going to be breaking down, oh shit what year was it?

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1991?

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Yeah, 1991's Stone Cold.

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Not the wrestler.

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Nope, not, dude that's what I thought at first.

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When you sent me the TikTok, I was just like, wait, isn't Steve Austin supposed to be the

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guy in this?

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But no, this is a completely different movie.

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Completely, completely.

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Oh my gosh, so yeah, Stone Cold came out in 1991.

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That's what we'll be breaking down this week.

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And if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different

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categories that we individually score to come to a final All Bros and Angry Dad letter grade.

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The eight categories that we are going to score are story, writing, acting, character

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development, effects, music, costumes, and then at the end give it our own personal grade.

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All of those numbers get magically thrown into our algorithm and spits out a letter

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grade for us.

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Yeah, sometime.

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Yeah, so, oh I guess I have to read this synopsis.

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Hold on.

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This is usually Rose's job.

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He's not here to pull his weight.

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Yeah, I know, right?

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All right, let's see here.

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All right, here we go.

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So if you have not seen Stone Cold, we are about to spoil the entire freaking movie for

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you.

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In one shot.

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In one shot.

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So I mean, you've had a significant amount of time to watch this.

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So more than a significant amount of time.

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Yeah, so this is more your fault at this point, but I blame you.

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Yeah, so getting into the synopsis.

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Joe Huff is a tough Alabama cop who is frustrated with a system that handles criminals with

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kid gloves.

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Currently, Joe is suspended for displaying excessive violence towards criminals.

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After stopping a supermarket robbery, Joe is summoned by FBI agent Cunningham, who proceeds

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to blackmail him into going undercover by threatening to turn Joe's three-week suspension into six

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months without pay.

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Cunningham wants Joe to go undercover in Mississippi and infiltrate the Brotherhood, a white supremacist

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biker gang linked to the murders of government officials and suspected of dealing drugs to

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the mafia, due to his proficiency in criminal biker arrests.

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The Brotherhood is led by the rough and violent Chains Cooper.

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Joe goes undercover as John Stone, but his job is not easy.

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His FBI contact Lance is a germaphobe who does not exactly fit in with the biker crowd,

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and the members of the Brotherhood, especially Chains, have their suspicion about John Stone,

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who has seemingly come out of nowhere to get a piece of their action.

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Tasked with killing a man as his initiation, Joe enlists the FBI's help to carefully fake

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the murder and is accepted into the Brotherhood.

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However, Chains's right-hand man Ice Hensley does not trust Joe and eventually tries to

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expose him, leading to Ice's death in a high-speed motorcycle chase.

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During the operation, Joe learns that the Brotherhood's ultimate goal is to eliminate

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Brent the Whip Whipperton, a district attorney running for governor of Mississippi, who has

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promised to crack down on crime within the state.

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They plan to use a cache of stolen military weapons to storm the Supreme Court meeting

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at the Mississippi State Capitol, where one of their own is on trial for murder and assassinate

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both Whipperton and the judges presiding over the case.

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When Chains's girlfriend Nancy accidentally learns about Joe's identity, he confides in

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her and offers her immunity if she cooperates with the FBI.

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Though resistant at first, Nancy accepts his offer, but the operation fails when the man

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Joe had supposedly killed to gain admission to the Brotherhood suddenly returns.

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In retaliation, Chains shoots and kills Nancy, but plans to do away with Joe in a more spectacular

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fashion by strapping a bomb to his chest and throwing him from a helicopter en route to

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the Capitol.

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Joe manages to fight his way free and commandeer the chopper, then takes the fight inside the

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Capitol where a melee erupts between the Brotherhood and the local police.

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Chains uses an automatic rifle that was planted inside the courtroom to kill a government

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agent, two security guards, and all of the Supreme Court judges before taunting Whipperton

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and killing him as well.

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As Chains rallies his biker brother and Joe battles his way through the ranks of the gang

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until finally coming face to face with Chains.

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Joe easily wins the fight and leaves the gang leader in police custody, but Chains suddenly

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breaks free and steals an officer's gun, intending to shoot Joe.

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A gunshot is heard and Chains abruptly falls to the ground having been shot by Joe's partner

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Lance.

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Joe then marches stoically from the Capitol.

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We get our synopsis from Wikipedia.

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They're pretty in depth.

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That one was like literally, did not skip AB.

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Oh man dude.

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Starting off with story.

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When you're reading it as a whole, like I just did, it's not half bad.

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It is.

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I told my wife this is the most 90s action movie that I think I've ever seen.

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This is like I said, I do an action movie podcast that's in my time and this is the

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definition of what a true action movie is.

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This movie did not, it didn't take any time to freaking like breathe.

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It was just action sequence after the action.

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That's what blew me away.

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On the Oculus, I wasn't ready for it because like when that first scene happens with the

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shotgun, it's like literally, I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

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It threw me back because I'm so used to watching it on TV, but with the Oculus, it was so in

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my face that I was like, because the whole first scene starts off with a shotgun.

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Dude, that's what I love about watching it on the Oculus because you get that freaking

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theatrical experience with it.

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Like you said, I was taken aback by it too.

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When I saw the freaking gunshot, I jumped and I was like, oh shit, did I miss something?

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But nope, that's just how the movie starts.

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It is insane.

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It's kind of funny that I'm not sure if they did this on purpose or whatnot.

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I seem to forget that he was a cop.

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Like just the crazy shit that he would do.

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I'm just like, oh, he's just like a crazy biker dude.

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Well, he had the biker look, he had the bike, like even the whole beginning grocery scene,

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you know what I'm saying?

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He walks in and he's just playing a smooth bad ass where he's like, no, I got this shit

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and he's eating a cookie and he was like, I'll pay for it, bro.

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With a shotgun in his face, like, don't worry about it, my bad.

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And then, you know, then fucks the dude up and it's just like, you know what I'm saying?

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And then you're like, a cop wouldn't do that.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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Dude, that is the moment I feel like I knew what I was in for when he got the shotgun to

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his face and he's just like, yo, I'll pay for it.

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And like, that is honestly probably the reaction that I might have because I'd be, it's either

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I would just freeze up and like pass out or I'd have to make a joke out of the situation.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You got to break the ice somehow.

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And like I said, it's just like the whole, just, just, it's so, it's written in a way

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where it's like it has to, it's taking itself seriously, but yet it's almost being candid.

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And it's like, it just like it flows right the way it was done.

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It's just like, there's no, like I just said, there's no, there's no time to breathe, but

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it transitions just flawlessly almost through the whole movie.

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They do a really good job with that.

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Yeah, it's like when he's meeting up with like the, with the brotherhood, like it was

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kind of hard to tell like what the brotherhood were about a little bit, just near the beginning.

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Like you slowly kind of get into it like later.

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Once you get into the compound.

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Yeah.

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Like definitely once you, once you get there.

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And there's so much nudity in this man.

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There's titties everywhere.

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There was so much dude.

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And they, they started off fricking like weird with Huff going to take a shower and he's

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in like the tiniest little.

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Oh yeah.

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He's, he's, he's wearing old, like old school, like, like briefs where they're like, it's

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like a strap over the hip, but it's like a loin cloth and it's like, did we need to see

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that?

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You know what though?

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They're trying, they're, they're, they're playing both parts.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like we got to get the women in here because they love the bars and they want to see the

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bars and you know what I'm saying?

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That's just what it is.

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Go deal.

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They love a good bad guy.

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Oh man.

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Yeah.

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Like I said, this movie just hits hits off with just pure nineties.

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Like, okay, this is what you're in for.

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That protein shake he makes in the morning is the whole reason I remember this movie

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because like, I always remember him just like to bananas, you know, just literally cracking

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eggs and just throwing the shells in there, you know, and it's, it's not for him to drink,

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but he does taste it.

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And he's just, and he gives it to, he literally has a monitored lizard and he's just like,

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there you go.

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Couldn't have a dog, but a lizard named Fido, like viral.

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There you go.

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And has a full on conversation moment with this, with this whole, that literally picks

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him up.

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Like you pick up and talk face to face, like, come on, bro, do your job, eat your food.

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Dude, this, this movie, and that's the last time you see it.

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Oh my gosh, dude.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason that we have the, the nineties, like if this

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was the movie that's kicked off, like, Oh, this is a 90 style action movie.

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Cause like the difference between this and something from like the, the eighties is so

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wildly different.

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So, so much different, but yeah, just to how they checked your expectations when you're

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like, okay, he's talking to his dog.

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Oh shit.

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That's a fricking dragon.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's huge too.

283
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And it's not fake, it looks like it, but it's not.

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Nope.

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That's what was super surprising about it too.

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I'm like, Oh, that's like a, a live lizard.

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I would not put my face that fucking close.

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That was insane.

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And isn't that, that, um, the protein shake that he was making, wasn't that the, the tick

290
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tock you sent me?

291
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Yeah, that's exactly what I sent you.

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I was like, exactly it, cause it's so iconic.

293
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People always Google it.

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Cause like, it's just one of those moments in the movie where like, it's like, that's

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so ridiculous.

296
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You know what I'm saying?

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But also too, I've seen people make shakes like that and drink them.

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Oh my gosh.

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Um, kind of getting further into the movie.

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Like after, when he's like doing the initiation to the, the brotherhood, one of the most like

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just absurd things that I saw was, or noticed was the dude he was supposed to kill, they

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just send him off to some like different country.

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They couldn't detain him.

304
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Yeah.

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Don't ever come back.

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You know, and that, that guy's claim to fame, that person he, it's funny too.

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Cause like, he literally like take a bow, hits, puts him on his shoulders, walks straight

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out the club.

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But that guy was played the kickboxer in the Van Damme movie Bloodsport.

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So like that's literally his, that guy's claim to fame with Stone Cold and this right here.

311
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Yeah, dude, the pacing on this movie was super fast.

312
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Oh yeah.

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Like it was just, they didn't waste any time doing transitions.

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Like they just went from like one, like I said, one action sequence to the next.

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Yep.

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Like anything that they talked about, like, Oh, we're, we're going to be doing like, you

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need to get in with the brotherhood.

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Okay.

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Boom.

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And then next thing you know, it's like, I mean, he's getting in.

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That's it.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And it's just, it's like the tran, the, the transition was just so fast.

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And then what I love too is like, uh, the whole getting into the brotherhood right before

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he got into the brotherhood and there was a biker rally shows the bike, pulls up into

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his, with his busted van bike on the trailer, like anybody would do at a rally.

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They just be like, all right, pull up.

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And he fucking, you know what I'm saying?

329
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Beats ice in a motorcycle drag race, piss the fuck off and then fucking goes into a

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circle pit and fucking beats the biggest dude up.

331
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And they're like, all right, we like you.

332
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And that guy was way bigger than him too.

333
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There is way bigger than him.

334
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I think that this movie kind of served to like this movie did not try and humble his

335
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character at all.

336
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Yeah.

337
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He was a juggernaut in this whole fucking movie.

338
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You know what I'm saying?

339
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He was like, no, nobody gets in my way.

340
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Yeah.

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Like he goes as far as getting shot in the chest with a fucking bulletproof vest on and

342
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then he still tries to fight everybody.

343
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You know what I'm saying?

344
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He first gets up, slams the boss.

345
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He's like, what the fuck?

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He's all you're in.

347
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Like what the fuck?

348
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Yeah.

349
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This movie was just a crazy wild ride and just kind of getting into like what I would

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score this story.

351
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I mean, it's not perfect by any means, but it's a good story.

352
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That's the crazy part.

353
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Like reading the synopsis helped a lot because I was like, okay, there was some things that

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were a little bit confusing.

355
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And I think where I was getting confused when I was watching, it was just pacing.

356
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Like, oh shit, like they jumped really quick into that.

357
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One thing that kind of got me with Nancy, I thought he had already told her, maybe it

358
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was just like, I couldn't hear it properly, but didn't he admit to her that he was a cop?

359
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No, he was trying to.

360
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And it was like the restaurant scene where they're eating and she's breaking down because

361
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she just seen the two people get murdered, you know what I'm saying, that are national

362
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guard and she was like, fuck this shit.

363
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This and this and this.

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He's like, come on, let's go talk.

365
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And so he was getting ready to break it down, but his partner happened to slip him a note

366
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and said, hey, meet me over here and talk.

367
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And so that whole conversation died.

368
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And then he's like, you got to trust me.

369
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I'll get you out of here.

370
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And then that was the end of that.

371
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But then, like I said, she didn't find she literally didn't find out until the truck

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heist.

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And when you know, and then first of all, in the truck heist, why would you use a CB

374
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fucking radio to be like, Joe, you know what I'm saying?

375
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What's going on?

376
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You know what I'm saying?

377
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Like you're mother like hitting his face here.

378
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,720
Like you can see him like you just blew my fucking cover.

379
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,960
What the fuck happened to fucking wait till I call you?

380
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,960
You know what I'm saying?

381
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Well, you know, anybody could have been in this truck with me.

382
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Yeah.

383
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Um.

384
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Did like Nancy and Joe, they had a they had a conversation at the compound, like right

385
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before they went on this mission.

386
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So he was talking about, you know, he wanted to come in and she wanted to get and he wanted

387
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is I'm coming here to get what I want and then I'm out.

388
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But if you play your cards right and you follow my rules, I'll take you with me until you

389
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do that for me.

390
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Yes.

391
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And then that's what that's what led up to the whole dinner scene.

392
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OK, I thought that was after.

393
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,520
There might have been after that might have been out.

394
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,400
Yeah, because I was killed at that moment in time.

395
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,100
So yeah, because he was gone all day because of that.

396
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,680
So it was later that day right before the heist.

397
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Yeah.

398
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So I think that's where I might have gotten confused because then she like all I heard

399
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was her like asked like, oh, are you cop?

400
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And it kind of he was whispering a little bit.

401
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So it kind of sounded like he was admitting it.

402
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,480
And then she was just keeping her mouth shut.

403
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And I'm like, OK, like, let's see where this goes.

404
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,040
And then like went later when they were in the in the truck and she's just like, you're

405
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a cop.

406
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,160
I'm like, wait, didn't he just tell you?

407
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,160
Yeah.

408
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Yeah.

409
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Well, that's the thing, too, is like, you know, people should be able to put two and

410
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two together.

411
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But the thing is, is we're not in the perspective.

412
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We're watching the movie happen.

413
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So we already know, you know what I'm saying?

414
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But she's playing off the perspective.

415
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She's still naive.

416
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But at least that's how I feel about it.

417
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Right.

418
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Yeah, there was a bunch like.

419
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,440
OK, was there also.

420
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With ice.

421
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,040
Was there another dude that looked exactly like?

422
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,040
Yes.

423
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Yes.

424
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And I can't remember his name, but he had long black hair with a mustache, too.

425
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,800
But he just he just wasn't he was literally just a side guy and wasn't even like, you

426
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,400
know, I think he was like labeled henchman one or something like that in the credits.

427
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,520
But yeah, there was another guy that looked just like him.

428
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,360
He was just a little thinner.

429
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,680
Dude, that bugged the shit out of me.

430
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:02,920
I'm like, you're someone needs to get fired for that one because like it was right after

431
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,440
the the the ice funeral scene.

432
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,440
Yeah.

433
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,120
Like and then he was right back.

434
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,120
He's like, yeah.

435
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,120
And he's like in the back.

436
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,400
I'm like, is that ice?

437
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:19,480
Oh, yeah, no, no, they did have somebody that was like that that looked similar to him,

438
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,800
you know, I'm saying, but also to like it was similar enough where it shouldn't have

439
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,800
looked like him.

440
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,800
Yeah.

441
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:32,200
And we'll get into it with costumes because I have some like thoughts and ice is like

442
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,880
the main thing.

443
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Oh yeah.

444
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,880
Well, that motorcycle trip.

445
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,880
Oh my gosh.

446
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Yeah, overall, like like I said, it was just really quickly paced and especially for an

447
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,320
hour and a half movie.

448
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,320
Yeah.

449
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Like if it feels like you got like a shit ton of story just kind of crammed into what

450
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,060
you did here, what you did.

451
00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:57,160
But the thing is, too, is like it was nothing was wasted.

452
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,160
That's the part.

453
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,160
You know what I'm saying?

454
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,640
Like just like you said, it moved fast, never stopped.

455
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,380
The thing is, is every scene meant something, so there was really not that much filler in

456
00:28:09,380 --> 00:28:10,380
between things.

457
00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:11,380
You know what I'm saying?

458
00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:16,720
So like you they was able to really hammer the story out without skipping a beat.

459
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:23,640
Yeah, like they just I think they just took the editing to this story to the extreme,

460
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:31,080
like any like pan out, like shots of like the scenery there, like now get rid of it.

461
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,800
And it was just like nothing but story didn't give you all that.

462
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Any room to breathe.

463
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,440
All of it.

464
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,160
And if there's not a person in the picture, I don't want it in there.

465
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,000
Oh, man.

466
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Yeah, the only.

467
00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:05,560
I think I don't quite understand why they why they killed those guard guardsmen.

468
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,880
With the guards, what it was is they were trying to heighten security because they were

469
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,760
trying to put more like at least from what I remember and what I was watching, they were

470
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,920
trying to get more people to have eyes on what they were going to do because it was

471
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,160
going to be this spectacular, like, you know, Sundance Sundance and Butch Cassidy fucking

472
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,520
showdown where everybody's going to die.

473
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,520
But you know, they're sacrificing, you know, they're sacrificing everybody to get the person

474
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,240
that's in there out.

475
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,240
You know what I'm saying?

476
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480
And everyone that's what everyone wanted, because everything's supposed to be for the

477
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,400
greater good of the brotherhood.

478
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,400
You know what I'm saying?

479
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:51,840
Because like at the end of the day, with the plan laid out, who in the fuck really expected

480
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,840
to get out?

481
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
You know, I'm saying they had a helicopter to escape.

482
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,920
But the thing is, is everyone's got to hold down the Fort Well, those people in a helicopter

483
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:00,920
escape.

484
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840
You know what I'm saying?

485
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Like that whole like I know the ultimate goal was was to try and kill the whip.

486
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,320
Yeah.

487
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:20,400
But it it it came it almost came across like they pulled that whole stunt off to go and

488
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,000
save that one guy.

489
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Yeah.

490
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
And that's exactly how it felt.

491
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
You know what I mean?

492
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
That seems excessive.

493
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Very.

494
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,560
But the thing is, too, is like he was supposed to be the leader leader.

495
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,560
You know what I'm saying?

496
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,860
You know, like that's how I felt it was like the bike.

497
00:30:35,860 --> 00:30:40,440
That person was supposed to be the one calling the shots and chain was literally supposed

498
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,280
to be the second in command.

499
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,840
And the other guy was sergeant at arms.

500
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,440
So he would almost be the vice president vice president of the of the of the biker club.

501
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,520
You know, I'm saying at least that's how I was feeling it was supposed to come off as.

502
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,520
OK.

503
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Yeah, I didn't.

504
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,960
Yeah, I didn't quite know if if that was the case.

505
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,200
That's the only angle that I can see it being how they were trying to set it up, because

506
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,760
otherwise why would you try to save that one guy if you're just trying to kill the dude?

507
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,120
You could have easily done in any other fashion because these guys had explosions.

508
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,240
They killed a judge.

509
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880
They killed a lawyer with explosions.

510
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,880
You know what I'm saying?

511
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240
Like literally, they blew up a guy going fishing.

512
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,240
You know what I'm saying?

513
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,200
Yeah, he he had a little boat and he turned on the motor and boom in the conversation.

514
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,720
You could have easily killed that guy in any other fashion.

515
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,720
Yeah.

516
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:38,080
So, I mean, that just kind of felt a little bit too.

517
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Hard to track like, OK, what was their goal?

518
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Is their goal to get this guy out?

519
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,680
Is it to kill these people?

520
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Like what what's your deal?

521
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Exactly.

522
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,160
It did get a little muddy at that moment in time because you're like, I don't quite understand

523
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,760
like because even to is like if this is all they're going to do, then why did the president

524
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:02,200
even have their own chain even have to go if, you know, they were just going to go in

525
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,200
there and murder everybody?

526
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200
You know what I'm saying?

527
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Yeah.

528
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Otherwise, but honestly, too, like I said, you know, with plot armor, he had to go.

529
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,440
You know what I'm saying?

530
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,440
That's the movie.

531
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Yeah.

532
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,240
So I mean, I don't know if I if I missed it, but.

533
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,560
Did we know that that guy was in jail?

534
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,560
Oh, yeah.

535
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:31,240
I thought in the beginning when they there was a whole murder that happened and someone

536
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,240
seen it.

537
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,480
And then so they arrested just that because like once they somebody got murdered, they

538
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,720
can only arrest one person.

539
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,880
So they arrested that one person, charged them.

540
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,080
And then they had a big old like news conference, you know, because they had a lot of news clips

541
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,720
going on in the background in the news clips like we were able to charge just one member

542
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,960
and we got him.

543
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,000
And I want the death penalty because they killed this person.

544
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000
OK.

545
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000
She said.

546
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,640
That just brings up some issues for me now.

547
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Well, that's what I'm saying.

548
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,220
Like I said, it's a whole the story is great.

549
00:33:07,220 --> 00:33:10,800
But the thing is, is there's going to be holes.

550
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,640
But you know, like I said, in the concept and then this is just this is just how I always

551
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:22,440
feel about movies is there's got to be a couple of holes in there that just need to be filled.

552
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,440
You know what I'm saying?

553
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,440
So like, guess what?

554
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,760
We we need we just need a reason for this.

555
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,760
There it is.

556
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,760
You know what I'm saying?

557
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,760
All right.

558
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,760
The movie moves along.

559
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,760
No one pays attention.

560
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,760
OK.

561
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Yeah.

562
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,760
From what?

563
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Yeah.

564
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Yeah, from what I was understanding, because it seemed like they were going on like a killing

565
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,880
spree and then they were only able to like catch that that one guy in that.

566
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Well, the so I did.

567
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,380
We were like when they killed the judge and they killed that lawyer, it's because they

568
00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,400
convicted that guy.

569
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,660
OK.

570
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:59,560
And then WIP came in like they killed the judge, they killed the lawyer.

571
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,560
I want the death penalty.

572
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,560
You know what I'm saying?

573
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,720
Because he was originally going in there for a different murder.

574
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,000
And so they're like, no, because this is what they're doing.

575
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,400
I'm going to keep appealing until I get the death penalty.

576
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,320
OK.

577
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,720
That's I thought he was going after the entire club or like the entire brotherhood.

578
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,960
I didn't think he was going straight after that one dude.

579
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Yeah.

580
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Yeah.

581
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
See, they're trying to go after the entire brotherhood, but they couldn't.

582
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,960
You know what I'm saying?

583
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,080
They can only charge the one person.

584
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200
So they're like, nope, one at a time.

585
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120
And so that's kind of, you know, how they were looking at it, like they're trying to

586
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,560
make an example of us, not fucking us.

587
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Yeah.

588
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,560
OK.

589
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:48,720
So I think I'll I might dock more on writing because that's just like story details.

590
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:54,320
Yeah, that's very you know, that's that's like that's fine tooth comb right there.

591
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,480
Like that's like, you know, like, all right, I had a question here and still didn't get

592
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,480
answered.

593
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,480
You know what I'm saying?

594
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,680
There's there's but with any movie you do that happens regardless, you know what I'm

595
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,680
saying?

596
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080
There's going to be parts that that parts that just fizzle out and then it just needs

597
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080
to be moved on.

598
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,320
Right.

599
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:24,640
So for right now with story, I'm I'm I'm just going to be docking for like the pacing issues

600
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,480
that I had with it, because overall it was a pretty decent story.

601
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Yeah.

602
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,200
Not perfect.

603
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,200
I think.

604
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,840
Like I said, the pacing just made things a little bit too quick.

605
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,560
I don't didn't feel like I could sit and like think on things for a minute.

606
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Yeah, it's just new info after new info after new info.

607
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840
And it's just kind of like it just overloaded.

608
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400
And so it was like and like how I'll get into writing.

609
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520
It just like made it really hard to follow.

610
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,800
At least for me, maybe my attention span is just absolute garbage.

611
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,240
Well, you're talking to a vet that's seen so many action movies, you know what I'm saying?

612
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:08,720
So it's like, you know, it's I'm used to that pacing and I'm used to that, that that

613
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,880
hurry up and go, you know?

614
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,320
So it's like this is my wheelhouse of movies here.

615
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Right.

616
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Huh.

617
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,520
Plus, I've seen it a billion fucking times.

618
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Yeah, I think I'm going to I'm sitting at like.

619
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,240
Maybe like a seventy nine ish.

620
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:34,040
Well, you're close to me for for story.

621
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Where are you at?

622
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,040
I'm at eighty one.

623
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Eighty one.

624
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:45,400
Yeah, that's it's not a bad score, not a bad score at all for this.

625
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,920
So that averages us out to an eighty.

626
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,400
Getting into writing, this is where I'm going to kind of tear it apart.

627
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:03,960
The the dial was super intense, like all the time.

628
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,800
Yeah, it was down.

629
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,080
It was literally dialed to a nine almost every scene.

630
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Yeah, it is.

631
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Everyone has crazy much.

632
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,280
Everyone especially like when we first get that introduction to chains.

633
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,280
Yeah.

634
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,000
It was just the way that they or ice ice.

635
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560
He was way too intense for me.

636
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:35,400
Like just some gun in the face is what and like do something.

637
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,400
Yeah.

638
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,400
You're going to use that stick.

639
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Yeah, it was.

640
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,560
It was a lot.

641
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:51,080
No, it definitely like I said, but also to like.

642
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:58,200
It's that level of craziness that the characters have to have to make the make the movie work.

643
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,200
You know what I'm saying?

644
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,760
Because, you know, no one wants to see a regular bad guy.

645
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,400
Everyone wants to see a psychopath.

646
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:13,520
And, you know, chains was a psychopath, but he was a cool, calm, collected psychopath.

647
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:14,520
You know what I'm saying?

648
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,640
And then you then you get ice ice is like, nope, everybody needs to know I'm crazy.

649
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Everyone needs to know I'm the baddest fucking dude in the fucking room and everyone needs

650
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,400
to know that I'll kill them.

651
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:31,680
And I've known people in real life that are like that.

652
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:43,400
What threw me off or something that that didn't sit right with me is when Joe was sit or talking

653
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,400
about, OK, I need to find an in and he caused some some stuff like I thought he was trying

654
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,760
to get ice's attention.

655
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,800
Yeah.

656
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,960
And then he's like, I like I need an in.

657
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,760
Like, what's my what's my in?

658
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,720
And then he goes and fricking harasses him.

659
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:07,680
Well, but in biker in biker terms and talks, you know, you got a peacock.

660
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,280
You know what I'm saying?

661
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,120
And you know, if you don't show that you're a badass, no one's going to give a fuck about

662
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,120
you.

663
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,800
So like he walked over there like, you know, I'm going to push him a little bit and see

664
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,420
where it goes.

665
00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:21,420
You know what I'm saying?

666
00:39:21,420 --> 00:39:27,520
And honestly, like the one part that I thought is when he pushed him, the other guy that

667
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,520
was with him, his name was Guts.

668
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,080
And he was like, you know, very timid, you know, like he was like basically the full

669
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,420
of the group.

670
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:41,440
And so when that fight started happening and ice got called in to help the stripper and

671
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,700
Guts got knocked out and fucking Joe fucking just saved his ass, I thought that was going

672
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:52,760
to be his end, but it ended up not even going that I thought it was like wasted part there.

673
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,360
Like they could have used that, you know what I'm saying?

674
00:39:54,360 --> 00:40:00,760
Because they give that guy so much sympathy in the movie that like I thought it was just

675
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,760
a wasted end.

676
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,680
They could have definitely used that character a little bit more to kind of like, I'm vouching

677
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,680
for this dude.

678
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,680
I'm in the crew.

679
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,120
This dude just saved me.

680
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,120
You know what I'm saying?

681
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,760
I thought that a little bit more used, but it just kind of just got fizzled out there.

682
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,760
Yeah, I had the feeling that he was a prospect.

683
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Like was he like a legit, he was full, full fledged.

684
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,480
He had colors because like in the part where chains chains grabbed him and said, you see

685
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,720
this and he showed him the patch on his back.

686
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:37,160
That was a full patch, a full patch on your back, what they call colors, what they call

687
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,960
the, you know, an upper lower patch with all that in there is like prospects.

688
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Don't get that.

689
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,160
You literally wear a vest that says prospect on the back and then guess what?

690
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:51,440
And then when you pass and you get a full patch of colors thrown on, on your vest or

691
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,280
your jacket or wherever you fly, you know what I'm saying?

692
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960
So like he, he was full in, he wasn't a prospect.

693
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,360
He was part of the group.

694
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,960
He had say, but his say didn't really count for much because like I said, you know, every

695
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,600
group has that one guy, everyone likes him.

696
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,760
He's there, you know, and everyone just deals with them.

697
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Right.

698
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,320
I just thought it didn't seem like too many people liked him.

699
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Well, that's the thing.

700
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,320
So it's like, you know, he's like, like I said, he's one of those guys that he he's

701
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,320
here.

702
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,320
He's here.

703
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,320
He's been here.

704
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,320
He hasn't gone anywhere.

705
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,000
Everyone, you know, like, but also to like being a fool and kind of having that character

706
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,000
aspect that he had, everyone just deals with them because guess what?

707
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Maybe he's a family member of one of the family members or that's chains cousin and you know,

708
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,100
he's here, but we fuck with them.

709
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:40,100
Everyone fucks it.

710
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
Everyone accepts that.

711
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,640
You know, I'm saying we don't have to like them, but guess what?

712
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,360
We have to respect them in the fact that he's here.

713
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,360
You know what I'm saying?

714
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
There's there's plenty of crews that have people like that where it's just like, you

715
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,440
know, do whatever in that they have in it just holds, you know, and so like, but the

716
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,520
thing is, it's like there's there were moments in time where that character, you know, like

717
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,000
they emphasize them so much.

718
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,600
I'm like, oh, OK, cool.

719
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,600
That's his in.

720
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,600
He saved his ass.

721
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,560
And I was like, no, that wasn't his in.

722
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,480
You know, they just literally use it.

723
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,720
Hey, we're having a get together.

724
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,280
Come to come to the rally.

725
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,080
And then that and then like they had a moment in time where they talked, they spoke and

726
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,760
then they walked away from it.

727
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Yeah, I I definitely agree.

728
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,880
They could have used him a lot more.

729
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,200
Like really, the only purpose he served was getting him to the rally.

730
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,200
Yeah.

731
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:36,040
And then just kind of showing that he has a it seemed like he has a conscience when

732
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
he was when they were killing the guards.

733
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Exactly.

734
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,960
And then they fricking like Bushwhack his hand.

735
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,960
Yeah.

736
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Which that was messed up.

737
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,960
Exactly.

738
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,840
Like, why did they have him start his bike?

739
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,440
They were going to probably tell him to leave, but he didn't get on his bike fast enough

740
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,440
to leave.

741
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,840
Oh, because at that moment in time, you know, he spoke up when he shouldn't have spoke up.

742
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,360
You know what I'm saying, like when the when the boss is talking, don't question him in

743
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,360
front of people.

744
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,360
You know what I'm saying?

745
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,080
Like that's more of like when you get when you're having conversations with people the

746
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,880
way like he was having a conversation with that's like the worst sign of disrespect that

747
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,440
you can give somebody is to try to call them on some bullshit in front of everybody, because

748
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,040
now I have to do something to you to fucking prove to everyone else here.

749
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,920
My word is my word is God.

750
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,920
My word is said.

751
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,920
My word is done.

752
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,600
You know what I'm saying?

753
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,640
What I say goes goes.

754
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,800
And don't fucking call me out in front.

755
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,040
You can you can pull me aside and have a conversation with me like, bro, that that just wasn't cool

756
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,040
to me.

757
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,040
I respect it.

758
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,040
I understand it.

759
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,180
Just stay the fuck back then.

760
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:48,180
But that's not what he did.

761
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:53,840
He spoke up in the middle of a crowd which he shouldn't have done, you know, and fucking

762
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,200
lost his hand from what I can figure out.

763
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,520
Yeah, they never really show what happened.

764
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:10,120
They never really show it, but oh, like I almost appreciated that you you didn't see

765
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,800
anything from that because like I wish we would have seen like some aftermath.

766
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,320
Yeah, but let's splatter.

767
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,840
But yeah, or just like his his hand like bandaged up or just just something along those lines.

768
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Well, I did appreciate that they pulled away when he was getting his hand, whatever happened

769
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,560
to it, because it just it makes it so much worse because it's like, oh, you're imagining

770
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,560
exactly what happened.

771
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Oh, yeah.

772
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,080
Oh, yeah, it was.

773
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,080
It was it was so crazy.

774
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:49,120
It was just like said, it just like the more you dissect it, the more like, you know, it

775
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,280
is an aspect of this biker life that you don't see in most biker movies where it's a little

776
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,320
more a little more on the violent side.

777
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:08,240
Yeah, like and I feel like I have very if I have any, there's so little doubt that shit

778
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:09,600
like that actually occurs.

779
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,600
Oh, yeah.

780
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,680
No, no, like I said, you know, a little more back in the day.

781
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:15,680
Yes.

782
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,100
You know, in that moment in time when that talk about like there were so many biker

783
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:24,720
gangs coming up and, you know, there's so much shit that and stories that I've heard just

784
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:31,840
from people that I talked to in that lifestyle where it's like, you know, I made a face for

785
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,920
those who couldn't see me.

786
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:41,680
Dude, I didn't realize for the longest time that biker gangs were actually like that because

787
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:49,000
my dad, he's in a motorcycle club and they had that whole thing where he was a prospect

788
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,040
and then gets his cut and like the colors and everything.

789
00:45:53,040 --> 00:46:00,840
And like, but seeing like I went on a trip with them to to Kansas and just seeing how

790
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:07,440
the actual gangs like view them is hilarious.

791
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:14,880
Like I said, when you when you when you when you start getting into a little more heavy

792
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,280
duty gangs out there, like I said, you know, I'm out here in the Bay Area.

793
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,920
So like, you know, the one of the biggest the biggest one is basically, you know, out

794
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,920
here.

795
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,240
And, you know, I just happen to know quite a bit of those of those people.

796
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,840
And it's just like, you know, when you when you're around that life, you use you hear

797
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,560
and see everything, but I didn't hear anything, didn't see anything.

798
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,720
Yeah, that's that's my philosophy.

799
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,760
As long as it's not directly affecting me.

800
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Like I didn't see shit.

801
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:56,320
I swear to God.

802
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,320
Yeah.

803
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:08,800
It's funny story, we were at a gas station and there were some some gang members that

804
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,400
were riding like the opposite direction.

805
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,560
And then they flipped a U.E. and started following my my dad's club.

806
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,560
Yeah.

807
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,400
And then we pulled into like a gas station and one like they pulled into like a gas station,

808
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,400
like on the other end.

809
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,400
Oh, yeah.

810
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,400
They're just they're just check colors.

811
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,400
Yeah.

812
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Just to like see what they were about.

813
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:37,440
And one of the club members from my are my dad's club came up to me because I was riding

814
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,800
the the the safety vehicle.

815
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,800
Yeah, the trailer.

816
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,800
Yeah.

817
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:52,640
So I was driving that and I was wearing a a Robin shirt.

818
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,320
So like just a red shirt with like the yellow are and everything.

819
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,840
And he came up to me because I had to pee like a mother.

820
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,920
So I was like filling up the truck and he's like, hey, you might want to stay in the in

821
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,920
the truck.

822
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Like, I'm like, why?

823
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,400
And he's like, you're wearing their colors, man, like that, you know, how disrespectful

824
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,120
like they might do something crazy.

825
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,400
And I was like, I don't give a shit.

826
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,760
I'm going to piss my pants.

827
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,280
Freaking ran in.

828
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,920
And one of the member or the gang members was in there.

829
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,920
Yeah.

830
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,920
And I kind of had like a little.

831
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,920
Oh, yeah.

832
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,000
I just peed a little bit.

833
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Yeah.

834
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,880
Like, oh, shit.

835
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:37,000
But he like he turned around, looked and he's like, yo, is that Robin?

836
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,800
Well, that's the funny part, too.

837
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,240
It's like they can tell, you know what I'm saying?

838
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:47,160
They can they can eat, you know, there's a certain look of a biker.

839
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,920
And I'm pretty sure you're flying by, bro.

840
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Yeah.

841
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,400
Yeah, I wasn't like everyone else in my my dad's club was wearing like a vest and yeah,

842
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,720
like and everything like I was just.

843
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:02,720
T-shirt and jeans.

844
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:03,720
Exactly.

845
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:04,720
Exactly.

846
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:05,720
You know what I'm saying?

847
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,720
That's just how it goes.

848
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:10,080
You know, like even when I go places, you know, I always wear a sleeveless shirt.

849
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,080
I'm tattooed from the legs all the way to my head.

850
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,660
Huge fucking beard.

851
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:19,120
And I don't even drive a motorcycle and I still get fucking looks.

852
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,840
Yeah.

853
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,880
My I have like I've I like to ride.

854
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,720
I want to get a motorcycle.

855
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:34,680
But my I would not have the typical biker aesthetic to me.

856
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Like my my helmet is a full face helmet.

857
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:44,580
It's like it's blue and it has red and white stripes on it with the Captain America ears

858
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:46,600
that I painted on.

859
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:53,560
My vest is a Captain America vest.

860
00:49:53,560 --> 00:50:01,400
And I and I have a black leather jacket that I'm painting the Punisher skull on.

861
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,000
Like there's nothing that I could wear.

862
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,480
There's nothing about me that screams badass biker.

863
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,600
It's like, well, let me tell you, as long as you ain't rocking colors and you ain't got

864
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,920
no flags or cuts on you, nobody is going to be like, you know, oh, he's got he's cool.

865
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Just doing my thing.

866
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,920
You know what I'm saying?

867
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,760
Because bikers respect bikers because everyone enjoys the ride.

868
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,960
But the thing is, is, you know, when you start flying colors and flying flags, then it's

869
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,060
like now we have a problem.

870
00:50:31,060 --> 00:50:32,060
Who are you?

871
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:33,060
What are you doing?

872
00:50:33,060 --> 00:50:35,240
Are you are you a one percenter?

873
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:36,240
What's going on?

874
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,360
You know what I'm saying?

875
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,440
All that has to be verified, especially when you start getting into territories.

876
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,280
You know, which is just.

877
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,560
It was funny just because I like I'd never dealt with that before.

878
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:59,040
And just the fact that I got singled out because of my shirt, like exactly like that guy thought

879
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,920
I was going to, but for completely different reasons.

880
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,400
Like the strip, bro.

881
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,400
You know what I'm saying?

882
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,360
Oh, it's how it goes.

883
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:18,080
And like even like like I used to have a specific kind of haircut and the with the haircut that

884
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,000
I had, it just caused fights all the time.

885
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,560
It was just like, you know, and I'll throw it out there.

886
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,920
I used to have what they call a Mongolian tail.

887
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:34,080
And the only way I can really describe it is, you know, an old Japanese movies where

888
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,520
they just basically have like a patch of hair like on the top of their head like this, like

889
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,840
it's just a circle and it comes into a big tail.

890
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,840
Oh, yeah.

891
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,800
Basically, I had that, you know what I'm saying?

892
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,560
But it has a completely different meaning in Chicano in the northern California area.

893
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,800
And it just it just all it's like a flag for trouble.

894
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:01,320
And I've gotten numerous fights, numerous like, you know, I'm talking about two on one,

895
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,400
three on one, four on one fights.

896
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,040
And it just it is what it is.

897
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,040
You know what I'm saying?

898
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,480
And you know, once I started having kids and stuff like that, I kind of had to be like,

899
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,480
I can't do this with the kids.

900
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,480
You know what I'm saying?

901
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,400
Because I had a couple of fights where the kid my my youngest son was with me and I'm

902
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,560
like, go to the car.

903
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,560
I'll be there in a second.

904
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,480
You know what I'm saying?

905
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,400
Hopefully they don't go after them and I can keep them busy here.

906
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,480
And it just got to the point where like, all right, let me cut this off.

907
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,640
And you know, and just it just is what it is.

908
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,640
But I used to have this thick, long fucking tail braided the fuck up.

909
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:37,200
And once just like having flags, having cuts, having colors, it draws that unwanted attention

910
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,200
that you don't want.

911
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,520
Oh, did the.

912
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,520
We'll get into it.

913
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,640
We'll get into it.

914
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,720
Just bringing that up like that is definitely a costumes talk.

915
00:52:55,720 --> 00:53:00,680
But we're just trying to stay on on.

916
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,680
On task.

917
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,800
Oh, yeah, it's hard because it's such a good to be in such a good movie.

918
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,800
So it's hard to stick to.

919
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,200
Yeah, to the format right now.

920
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,080
It's really good.

921
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,640
The.

922
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:18,960
One of the things like the I think my biggest problem, like overall with the movie was the

923
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:26,160
transportation scene just because there was a lot of shit that was just confusing there.

924
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,120
Like they threw in that dude that looked exactly like ice.

925
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,240
Yeah.

926
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:36,640
They had like the conversation with the dude that was driving the semi and then he starts

927
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,440
like acting up.

928
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,720
Yeah.

929
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,000
And like get fake gets killed.

930
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,000
I was like, what the hell is this dude doing?

931
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Exactly.

932
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Because it's not disgusting.

933
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,120
Yeah.

934
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,280
And then later he's just like, man, I died really good this time.

935
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,280
That's it.

936
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Like the dude is giving me stress.

937
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,880
I'm like, he's going to blow this whole fricking thing.

938
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:00,880
Exactly.

939
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,120
The whole I'm like, watch it like, what are you doing?

940
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,280
God damn it.

941
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,400
Like you're part of this operation, dumbass, like knock it off.

942
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,920
Like what the fuck is going on?

943
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,640
Oh, but like realize it just afterward with what his role was.

944
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,680
I was like, oh my gosh.

945
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:23,680
That's it.

946
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,280
Chain got him real good too.

947
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,800
So this time you really die.

948
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,800
Yeah.

949
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,800
Um, geez.

950
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Oh, another, like after that, like after that sequence, just the fact that he fricking abandoned

951
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,800
all the drugs.

952
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Yeah.

953
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,920
Like he just, that was so weird.

954
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,920
That was so weird for him.

955
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,800
Literally just drives away on his bike.

956
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,800
Get off my horse.

957
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,800
Yeah.

958
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,560
And then just like takes off.

959
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,600
I'm like, yo, this is an operation.

960
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,600
Yeah.

961
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,960
You need to figure out where the fuck this is going.

962
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,240
You know what I'm saying?

963
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,240
Yeah.

964
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,920
And then he like goes bitches and complains about it to the FBI guy.

965
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,400
And then he's like, you need to go find these drugs.

966
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,400
And you're like, fine.

967
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,600
And then goes and gets like blows them up.

968
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Exactly.

969
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,600
You know what I'm saying?

970
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,080
All that money just got blown up.

971
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,080
Yeah.

972
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,080
So that was evidence.

973
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,080
It was funny too.

974
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:21,360
Cause like when a trailer gets shot, it's not going to fall down like that.

975
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,840
But also too, like when it, when it fell off the trip, it just kept rolling straight.

976
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,600
I'm like, it wouldn't do that.

977
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,880
It literally, you know what I'm saying?

978
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,880
It jackknife.

979
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,880
Yeah.

980
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:38,080
That's, that shit would dig straight into the damn concrete and stop almost immediately.

981
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Exactly.

982
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Like it might slide for a little bit.

983
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,680
Yeah.

984
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,680
Oh my God.

985
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Yeah.

986
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,320
It's just like, is, but you know, like I said, move for stunt purposes.

987
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:58,320
Oh, I don't know what, what category this would fall under.

988
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,440
So I'll bring it up now.

989
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,240
His bike was hilarious to me.

990
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,120
Did you notice the paint job?

991
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:16,640
It just had like, it's like blue skull that just had this awkward look to it.

992
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,640
It was his hair.

993
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Yeah.

994
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,640
It was the freaking mullet.

995
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,020
That's the thing is like, he was known for that mullet.

996
00:56:24,020 --> 00:56:25,020
You know what I'm saying?

997
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:28,600
That mullet was that, that was a signature Bob's back in the day.

998
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Cause he used to have that haircut all the way from college, all the way to the NFL,

999
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,860
all the way through his brain, basically to his, all his major movie career.

1000
00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:39,240
Are you shitting me?

1001
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:43,200
I thought that was a design or like a costume.

1002
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,840
That, that, that, that hit, that's his signature.

1003
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Like I said, if you go back to his college days, you'll see it.

1004
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,720
He like, he had the, that he created that signature look in college and completely stuck

1005
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:57,620
with it all the way through his NFL career and into his first couple of movies.

1006
00:56:57,620 --> 00:56:58,620
You know what I'm saying?

1007
00:56:58,620 --> 00:57:01,920
Because like I said, that was him, you know what I'm saying?

1008
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,120
The feathered mullet, you know what I'm saying?

1009
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,360
People weren't ready for it back then in the nineties.

1010
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,800
Dude, that's hilarious.

1011
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Like I said, you go back and like I said, that's, that's the signature boss right there.

1012
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,680
Oh my gosh.

1013
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,440
And just the fact that they put that paint job on the bike.

1014
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,000
I mean, oh my hell.

1015
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:34,740
That was, that's what made me think like, okay, this is just like something weird.

1016
00:57:34,740 --> 00:57:36,840
They decided to pull for the move.

1017
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Oh yeah.

1018
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:38,840
No, no, no, no, no.

1019
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,840
Oh my gosh.

1020
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Yeah.

1021
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,840
Oh yeah.

1022
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,360
See, I should have said that earlier too.

1023
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,280
I was like, that's the signature boss hair cut right there.

1024
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Oh, cause it makes, it makes more sense once you know it, you know what I'm saying?

1025
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,880
Like, oh, yeah.

1026
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:58,920
I don't think my costume score just went up.

1027
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:09,920
Oh yeah, other than like that, just the loads of issues I had with the transportation scene

1028
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:17,360
and like just the whole drug thing in general and the, and the, I don't even know what act

1029
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,760
I would consider that like the second act.

1030
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,760
Yeah.

1031
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:27,720
Or it would be third act because it's like a, it goes into getting him, him getting into

1032
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,400
the the club and then him prospecting.

1033
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Right.

1034
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,440
Cause there were so many acts if you really think about it.

1035
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,440
Yeah.

1036
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,320
Like it's just like like micro movies.

1037
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,320
Yeah, exactly.

1038
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Like you could have literally broke this up into a TV series.

1039
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,480
You probably could have.

1040
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:56,040
Each, each, each act would have been a good 30 minute movie or 30 minute TV show.

1041
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Geez, we need to be careful about who hears that cause we're going to see that like a

1042
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,480
stone cold TV series on Amazon or HBO.

1043
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,800
Well, let me tell you right now, the boss is still acting and he's still doing movies

1044
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
and he plays a cop right now.

1045
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,640
What's he in right now?

1046
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,360
Oh, I can't even remember the name of the movie, but like, uh, it was just, it was,

1047
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,280
um, it was, he, they did a clip of it in the super bowl and they did a, they do a couple

1048
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,560
of clips of him all dressed up in the, uh, sheriff's uniform.

1049
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,240
I just can't remember the name of the damn show.

1050
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,480
Yeah.

1051
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:40,760
My writing score is, is a lot lower than, than my story is because it was just intense.

1052
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,880
It was just a little like way over the top.

1053
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,920
Well, you know, in movie fashion, it has to be over the top.

1054
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,600
So at least for me, it has to be over the top.

1055
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,600
So when it's done, it doesn't look like it was, you know what I'm saying?

1056
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,120
Because like until you really break it down, then it seems like that might've been a little

1057
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,120
excessive.

1058
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,120
Yeah.

1059
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Um, the only things that I felt were like excessive in this was the nudity.

1060
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,440
Hey, and you, you catch a little bit of a 90s Bush in there too.

1061
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Oh yeah.

1062
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,560
I caught that in full, whatever.

1063
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:21,880
That's it.

1064
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:27,560
Whatever quality the, the Oculus is able to portray.

1065
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:28,560
1080p.

1066
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,560
Crystal clear.

1067
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,040
Oh.

1068
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:42,720
Um, but yeah, just, I think with the pacing issues I had with the story, I don't feel

1069
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,600
like that served the script very well.

1070
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,600
Yeah.

1071
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:56,440
It's cause like I said, lots of jumping around, um, just lots of like things that were difficult

1072
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:03,560
to follow to, um, like I said, the whole, the, what the brotherhood's like ultimate goal

1073
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:12,000
was like, I thought it was about killing the whip or yeah, I thought that was the ultimate

1074
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,000
goal.

1075
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Yeah.

1076
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,000
But it was way more convoluted than that and it just, oh yeah.

1077
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,000
Oh yeah.

1078
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Like I said, it got muddy at the end.

1079
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,080
Yeah.

1080
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:31,320
And I think too with, um, thinking that like the goal seemed like it was to save Whipperton,

1081
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,320
right?

1082
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,320
From like, like the FBI's.

1083
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Yeah.

1084
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,200
Like that was the ultimate goal.

1085
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:39,200
They failed miserably.

1086
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,200
Oh man.

1087
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,080
And they had the National Guard.

1088
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:47,040
They had like so many things going on and right off top, like how in the hell did a

1089
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,120
gun get taped to the bottom of that seat?

1090
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,040
And then him, he had it on his lap, fully exposed.

1091
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,040
Yeah.

1092
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,520
Wasn't even like trying to hide it.

1093
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,320
It was just like kind of off to the side.

1094
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,400
He had the coat on the, on the barrel and the, the rest of us, he's just sitting there

1095
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,400
like, yeah, I'm here.

1096
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Got a gun in my lap.

1097
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,960
What are you going to do about it?

1098
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,640
And sat right behind, right behind the FBI agent.

1099
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,520
Oh jeez.

1100
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:18,400
It was just way too, like I said, way too convoluted of a plan for it to make any sort

1101
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:19,400
of sense.

1102
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,400
Like this was a suicide mission.

1103
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,200
Make the plan, execute the plan.

1104
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,640
Everything go horribly wrong.

1105
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,200
Yeah.

1106
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:38,480
But because of that, I think, I think we're going to go down to like a 68 for the writing.

1107
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,200
It was, it was rough for me.

1108
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:47,800
See, I'm, I'm, I'm like, I'm sitting at maybe a 70.

1109
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:52,000
I think 70 is for my, for my writing is going to be right about there.

1110
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,520
You know what I'm saying?

1111
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,520
Yeah.

1112
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,520
All right.

1113
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,240
Well that averages us out to a 69 for writing.

1114
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,800
69.

1115
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,800
All right.

1116
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:15,080
Next up we got acting, which we have Brian Bosworth who played Joe Huff.

1117
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,280
Lance Henriksen who played Chains Cooper.

1118
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:23,640
William Forsyth who played Ice.

1119
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:29,880
Arabella Holsberg, Hols Bog who played Nancy.

1120
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,660
Sam McMurray who played Lance.

1121
01:03:32,660 --> 01:03:36,840
And then Richard Grant who played Cunningham.

1122
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,680
Yeah.

1123
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,000
And this is a, you know, we had to talk about this.

1124
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,560
This is a star-studded cast before it was a star-studded cast.

1125
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:51,000
The he, the boss is not an actor.

1126
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:59,320
I think this is like first, I believe this is his first movie and you can tell, but the

1127
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:06,480
thing is, is everyone else around them is carrying him, acting their asses off, making

1128
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,660
this a great movie because everyone's playing the parts correctly.

1129
01:04:11,660 --> 01:04:12,660
You know what I'm saying?

1130
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:20,860
The two bad guys in this, in this movie are like known and great bad guys.

1131
01:04:20,860 --> 01:04:22,400
You know what I'm saying?

1132
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,920
It's just like, it's just so crazy.

1133
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:32,640
Because like they were banking off the bars to make this movie happen as an action star.

1134
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,640
You know what I'm saying?

1135
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,600
He was coming in to be the next Arnold.

1136
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,080
He was, you know, promoted as like the next big action star to come in there.

1137
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:45,640
He was like the Dolph Lundren of like 80s action movies of like he's coming in, he's

1138
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,520
a fresh kid, fresh face and about to make this.

1139
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,720
And unfortunately his chops just aren't there.

1140
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:54,720
You know what I'm saying?

1141
01:04:54,720 --> 01:05:00,800
No one else though, I'm sorry, Ice was exactly who Ice needed to be.

1142
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Chains was exactly who Chains needed to be.

1143
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:11,060
And you know, right off top, Lance, he is a surprising character that I love because

1144
01:05:11,060 --> 01:05:15,760
if anyone had character growth, it's only him.

1145
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,800
Yup.

1146
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:26,520
That is absolutely true.

1147
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:36,880
It's weird too because like, I mean, Bosworth action wise, like he pulled the action off

1148
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,880
incredibly well.

1149
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,880
Oh yeah.

1150
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:45,960
Like this is like, I'm not the biggest fan of what I've seen him in.

1151
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:53,320
So I don't know how this is going to come off to some people and like, especially you.

1152
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:59,480
I think his acting and like just the way that he's able to pull off action, his acting is

1153
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:05,120
on the same level as I'd say like Steven Seagal.

1154
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:13,080
But I think his acting or his action is a lot better than Steven Seagal's.

1155
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,080
But it's true.

1156
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:20,400
I'm saying because like when you get Jean-Claude Van Damme, when you get like Sylvester Stallone,

1157
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,100
they're athletic.

1158
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:23,100
You know what I'm saying?

1159
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:27,440
In the fact that they work out, Jean-Claude Van Damme was an actual martial artist.

1160
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,140
You know, Steven Seagal is an actual martial artist too, but they don't have the function

1161
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:37,720
and flow of like athleticism in like functional strength.

1162
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:44,520
The Boz College Pro, also to NFL Pro.

1163
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:51,620
And so he just has that natural athleticism that was easily translated into action movies

1164
01:06:51,620 --> 01:06:54,760
because he's used to throwing himself at stuff.

1165
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:55,760
You know what I'm saying?

1166
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,760
So he's like, guess what?

1167
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,560
I know how to fight because he's known to fight.

1168
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,180
He's known to, you know, hurl himself at things.

1169
01:07:01,180 --> 01:07:03,800
He's known to run, jump, you know what I'm saying?

1170
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Do all these things and this is prime time Boz in this movie.

1171
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:15,360
So that athleticism he has easily, you know, goes into this action movie.

1172
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:16,360
You know what I'm saying?

1173
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,360
That's what gives it.

1174
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,080
And plus he's really young still in this movie.

1175
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:20,080
You know what I'm saying?

1176
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:25,300
Because like this movie was like a little bit after his NFL career and he went straight

1177
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:28,680
from college to the NFL real quick.

1178
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:29,680
You know what I'm saying?

1179
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,920
I think he must have been like 23 or 24 by the time he made this movie.

1180
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,920
Geez.

1181
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,920
Yeah.

1182
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,920
You know what I'm saying?

1183
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:44,960
I'm not 100% sure on the date, but I'm pretty sure he was like still early 20s when this

1184
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,280
movie was made.

1185
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,640
That is wild to think about because I'm 26.

1186
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,000
He looks way older than I do.

1187
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Oh yeah.

1188
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,600
But you know, like I said, life was hard back then because you got to remember that that's

1189
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:06,280
hard drinking, hard partying, fucking, you know, football, fucking all the stresses of

1190
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,280
college.

1191
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,280
You know what I'm saying?

1192
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,200
All that bullshit, you know?

1193
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,240
Yeah.

1194
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:18,160
But I think he like, like I said, action wise, he did incredible.

1195
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:25,400
I think where you're what you're talking about, like the function, I think it showed really

1196
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,960
well in that pit fight.

1197
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,440
Like I think he sold that fight better than his opponent.

1198
01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:33,440
Oh yeah.

1199
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:37,400
And his opponent was like very, yeah.

1200
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,080
Chiseled as all hell.

1201
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,920
Just like, like kind of like almost sculpted.

1202
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:43,920
Like yeah, yeah.

1203
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:44,920
No, it is.

1204
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:45,920
Bodybuilder figure.

1205
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,500
And like I said, it's stiff and rigid.

1206
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:49,920
There's no flexibility.

1207
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,320
There's no agileness to it.

1208
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,320
There's none of that.

1209
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,200
But once again, football, you know, functional strength, you know what I'm saying?

1210
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,240
And being football, doing football, you have to be limber.

1211
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,240
And guess what?

1212
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,040
That easily translates into what that pit fight was.

1213
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,680
Yeah, for sure.

1214
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:15,920
Like it's crazy to think about, like the stuff that we, I mean, a lot of the the super fit

1215
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:23,400
people that we see on in action movies, the ones that are like chiseled, like Greek gods,

1216
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,320
have nothing on like the strongman competition people.

1217
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,480
But like, and they don't have like normal abs.

1218
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:37,000
It's just, they just got like a fricking brick of a gut.

1219
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,000
Exactly.

1220
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,120
Got that power belly.

1221
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,360
Yeah.

1222
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,320
And like that, it just kind of showed with him.

1223
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,720
Like he had, it's like some abs, like some definition.

1224
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,000
He has a lot of shape.

1225
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,000
But you know what I'm saying?

1226
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,600
Like, but also too, it's like, no, I got strength.

1227
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,600
You know what I'm saying?

1228
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:58,020
Because like one of the things like even with like MMA and UFC fighting, everyone thinks

1229
01:09:58,020 --> 01:10:01,480
you need to have this chiseled muscular body to be strong.

1230
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:05,960
It's like, no, a fit body with a little bit of fat on it.

1231
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,120
That's the perfect shape.

1232
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120
Because guess what?

1233
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,520
You're not requiring so much oxygen.

1234
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,440
You're not requiring so much energy to be spent on fucking physically holding yourself

1235
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:14,440
up.

1236
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:18,840
Like there's, there's this ratio that needs to be there for perfection when it comes to

1237
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,480
fighting.

1238
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:25,120
And the boss has that, that, that well, because like I said, the other guy was way more jacked

1239
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:32,400
than him, but boss was still jacked in comparison and was still, you know, like he, he wasn't,

1240
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,320
he wasn't struggling and breathing hard, even though that guy fought a couple of fights

1241
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,800
before he got in there.

1242
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,800
You know what I'm saying?

1243
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,160
It, it, it, it's still, you know, the, the, the smaller guy one, which was boss in that

1244
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,200
fight because the other guy was towering over him.

1245
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,200
Yeah.

1246
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:54,840
Like that whole fight, it had like the, like a UFC fighter versus a WWE fighter vibe to

1247
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:55,840
it.

1248
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,840
Oh yeah.

1249
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,720
Now they said that's old school strong Ironman fighting.

1250
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,280
Cause he used to do that back in the day where they just have a pit and you just keep fighting

1251
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,280
until someone loses.

1252
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:20,120
Oh, um, but yeah, like for me, I think he gets some like major points for his action.

1253
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,680
His action was just absolutely killer.

1254
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,200
Um, I know he didn't do all of his own stunt work.

1255
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,200
Like it's a noodle.

1256
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,200
Yeah.

1257
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,440
When he's like riding the bike, I'm like, that is very obviously someone else.

1258
01:11:34,440 --> 01:11:46,000
Um, but his, his acting, like anytime that he was just talking, not super great.

1259
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,120
And like you said, he was being carried by the rest of the cast.

1260
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:50,120
Oh yeah.

1261
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,660
Not it definitely.

1262
01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:52,660
It was there.

1263
01:11:52,660 --> 01:11:53,660
It's very noticeable.

1264
01:11:53,660 --> 01:11:56,440
But the thing too is, like I said, they did it well.

1265
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:57,440
You know what I'm saying?

1266
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:58,440
He got out his lines.

1267
01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:02,680
I don't know how many, how many takes it took each time, but you know what I'm saying?

1268
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:07,360
He was able to show enough emotion to make it palatable.

1269
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,160
Yeah.

1270
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:19,720
Um, the people that I feel did like the best at like keeping at a reasonable level, at

1271
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:24,560
least for like a nineties movie were the FBI agents, Lance and Cunningham.

1272
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:25,560
Yeah.

1273
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:31,360
I think they were like just the perfect level of like, like they did not feel super out

1274
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,360
of place.

1275
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Yeah.

1276
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:42,800
But when you get into like chains and ice, they for very ice, especially frequently went

1277
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:47,920
over the, over the top and it's just, Oh, okay.

1278
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:48,920
Dial it back.

1279
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:49,920
Yeah.

1280
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:50,920
See it.

1281
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:57,200
And it's funny is because like I said, um, the reason I liked ice so much is because

1282
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:08,120
like I said, I've grown up with people that are exactly to the T who ice is like no, no

1283
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,480
understanding of what a conscience is.

1284
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:16,840
No understanding of what no means, no understanding that someone can't, someone can stop me.

1285
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:23,200
There's like, I, I, I grew up knowing people like that, like never intimidated by them

1286
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,160
because I grew up with them, but everyone else around them would be scared shitless

1287
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:34,120
to look at them, talk to them, or even have them or then him talk to them.

1288
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,120
You know what I'm saying?

1289
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:40,320
They're like, no, like, you know, they, they, they do what they can to avoid this person.

1290
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,640
And so like because of that, that's what ice was one of my favorite characters because

1291
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:50,080
I'm like, no, I fucking grew up with, it's like at least five guys that were like that,

1292
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,400
like to the point where like they pull out a knife and shove it right in your face.

1293
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,400
What are you going to do?

1294
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:55,400
You know what I'm saying?

1295
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:01,280
It's just like, and I'm like, you know, like shit, you know, that, that was a good portrayal

1296
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,280
of that person.

1297
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,120
You know, chains was good, but the thing is, it's like, you know, I know a lot of cool

1298
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:12,000
comm collected guys that when they drink and party, they turn into what chains is, but

1299
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,320
I know way more people that are fucking like, like how ice was growing up.

1300
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,320
You know what I'm saying?

1301
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:22,400
Like, you know, like just straight murderers at like, no, I'm going to, they'll do exactly

1302
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,240
what they're going to want to do at any point in time.

1303
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,640
It doesn't matter who's around, what's around or what's going on.

1304
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,320
They're going to do exactly what they're going to want to do.

1305
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,200
And there's no ifs, ands or buts about it.

1306
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,720
And if you don't go with the flow, they'll turn on you.

1307
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Right.

1308
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,760
Yeah, dude.

1309
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,760
Ice just had a wild look in his eye.

1310
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,600
That was unsettling.

1311
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:52,200
You know, and this is things was like in a Steven Seagal movie, he played Bobby, which

1312
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:58,800
was basically the exact same character, but in this movie.

1313
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:06,240
So in Above the Law, that's exactly that character because he played in that movie.

1314
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,100
He was the bad guy in that movie is the exact same character he played in this movie.

1315
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:13,560
So like I had, I just had that look because I'm like, Oh, God, I love this guy as a bad

1316
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,040
guy because he just has that that talk, you know what I'm saying?

1317
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,040
That way about it.

1318
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,120
Like he's got the crazy eye and I'm going to end it.

1319
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,520
I don't give a fuck attitude.

1320
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:29,880
I was just scrolling through his IMDb and.

1321
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:36,680
I am sending this to Rose because in 2010 he played John Wayne Gacy.

1322
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,160
Yeah, hey, see, that's what I'm saying.

1323
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,280
And he missed out on that.

1324
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,280
You know what I'm saying?

1325
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,080
Like that could have been him making that correlation right now.

1326
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,080
Rose, you messed up.

1327
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,560
Oh, my gosh.

1328
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:57,520
It's so weird because like he I mean, at least the picture that he has on IMDb, he doesn't

1329
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,880
look like a crazy person.

1330
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,000
Like he just kind of looks like a hard ass.

1331
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:09,400
But any other like all the pictures that they're sharing of him, he looks freaking nuts.

1332
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,600
Yeah, but he plays it just right.

1333
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,320
It's like, oh, my God, that's why I love that's why I had a love for the character.

1334
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:18,320
You know what I'm saying?

1335
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,400
Because like just seeing him and seeing all these other movies that he's done, because

1336
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:27,840
I like I said, I've watched every one of his movies and it's just like.

1337
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,840
Yeah.

1338
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,840
Oh, my gosh.

1339
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:38,400
Anyway, I you know, you got to throw in a new bit for the show where it's five degrees

1340
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,520
of a gasey five degrees.

1341
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Oh, dude, Rose, I think Rose would kill it with that.

1342
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,320
I don't know if he's heard about that movie, so I'm definitely going to share that with

1343
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,320
all you after we get off here.

1344
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,320
All right.

1345
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:03,520
Who's who's in your top three for for acting in this movie?

1346
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,520
I'm going to go ice.

1347
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,520
It's tough.

1348
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,360
Ice, Lance and then boss.

1349
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,440
That's just that's just how I'm going to go.

1350
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:22,280
And the reason I ice because, like I said, I just love that character.

1351
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:27,360
Lance is because he plays.

1352
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:33,360
His character is the only character that evolves, but his character has the best line at the

1353
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,360
end of the movie.

1354
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,800
You know what I'm saying?

1355
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,520
And the boss, because, you know, it's he's the boss period, but that's going to be my

1356
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:47,040
my three way right there.

1357
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:52,080
I think I'm going to agree with you with Lance.

1358
01:17:52,080 --> 01:18:00,560
I number two, I think I'd have to give to to ice.

1359
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:08,000
Like he wasn't my favorite character in this, but just acting wise, like the dude just killed

1360
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,000
it.

1361
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,000
Oh, yeah.

1362
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:17,800
Like I said, he goes over the top a lot, and I don't necessarily think that's his fault.

1363
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:24,600
I think that's just the direction that the director is going, whoever the director was.

1364
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,600
Yeah.

1365
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:32,520
And then my number one, I'm going I'm going to give to chains is he killed it.

1366
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:43,840
Like if I think Bosworth, I think he's like a really close number four for me.

1367
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,520
Didn't quite crack the top three.

1368
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,360
It's like, like you said, that that's just how that's just how it goes, though.

1369
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,360
You know what I'm saying?

1370
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:58,600
Because he doesn't have the acting chops, but his action in it just that's what sold

1371
01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,600
it to me.

1372
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,040
That's just that's why he I put him in three chains.

1373
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,040
I would give four.

1374
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:12,040
And the only reason I give chains for is because, you know, ice outshined them the whole time.

1375
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,040
You know what I'm saying?

1376
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,800
Like even when they have their interactions, he's like, I don't like this guy.

1377
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,560
And you know, and he's like, he's going to be the biggest bulldozer, the biggest pork

1378
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,560
shop I have.

1379
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,760
That was the weakest fucking line I ever fucking heard.

1380
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,520
Yeah, I'm saying I'm like, why did you say you know what I'm saying?

1381
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:32,280
It's just like it's just like, you know, it's just every time that they had a scene

1382
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,960
together, I know chains had to play cool, calm and collected till the end.

1383
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:43,040
But that's just how their dynamic was is, you know, like, it's just like I said, I

1384
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,680
that's the only reason I give chains force because like every time that ice and him were

1385
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,240
in a scene, I just fucking took it.

1386
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Yeah, I.

1387
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,920
Yeah, he ice ice, freaking.

1388
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:58,920
He killed it.

1389
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:04,680
But I think the reason I put chains a little bit higher is because he was able to kind

1390
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:12,560
of reel it in just just a tad better than than ice was like this dude just went all

1391
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:13,560
out.

1392
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,240
Yeah, like every time nothing on the fricking table.

1393
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,000
Like he's just all right.

1394
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,280
Like four aces.

1395
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,480
I'm all in, God damn it.

1396
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:26,600
Oh, um.

1397
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,960
All right.

1398
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:33,160
Where are you sitting now with a with an acting score?

1399
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:42,520
Man, the acting score, I'm going to like maybe a 67.

1400
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,520
That is actually exactly where I was at too.

1401
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:52,000
Yeah, it was.

1402
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
It was watchable.

1403
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,320
Yeah, it just compared to like some other stuff.

1404
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,600
I mean, not the best.

1405
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:07,920
Hey, like I said, this is a gem of a movie and it's not even a cult following.

1406
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,480
There is no following behind this movie.

1407
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:14,000
This is just like one of those things where it's like, did you see that?

1408
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,840
I'm like, yes or no, that's just all you're going to get.

1409
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,840
You know what I'm saying?

1410
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,360
You're not going to like, oh, I love that movie.

1411
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:24,120
I was like, no, this is like one of those ones that are like, you know, it's like I

1412
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,880
love it.

1413
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,920
I'll recommend it.

1414
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:35,200
But the only reason I even rewatched it is because we were doing this podcast.

1415
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,200
That fair enough.

1416
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,760
I feel like this is going to be one of those movies like later down the line when someone's

1417
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,360
like, hey, did you ever see this?

1418
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:45,360
Yep.

1419
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,360
You want to watch it?

1420
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,360
I mean, if I have to.

1421
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,760
It is just what it comes down to.

1422
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,240
Oh, all right.

1423
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,040
So that averages out to a sixty seven for acting.

1424
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,920
Moving on over to character development.

1425
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,720
Unfortunately, like I think you're right with Lance being the only one that had any growth

1426
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:13,720
whatsoever.

1427
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:14,720
Yeah.

1428
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:23,720
You know, he because it it's just so hilarious because like said, the boss is the boss through

1429
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:24,720
the whole movie.

1430
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:29,160
Ice is ice through the whole movie.

1431
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,800
Chains slowly turns into a monster.

1432
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:37,200
But like, you know, but you can always tell it's there, but it just starts getting just

1433
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,640
a slightly wilder at the end.

1434
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,680
And then he's just off the rails.

1435
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,400
But that's like a quarter of the movie.

1436
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:46,400
But Lance.

1437
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,400
All right.

1438
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,160
He shows up to like he this is the first part.

1439
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:57,320
Fucking boss shows up to the bar to meet ice, to shake things up, you know, say, make some

1440
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,080
noise, find his in.

1441
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,680
And you know who the fuck's there?

1442
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:08,680
Lance in a denim jacket, a fucking bandana and a hat.

1443
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:13,400
And then with his collar, pop, pop colors too much hot.

1444
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:19,340
And then, you know, and then, you know, with the greatest of these bosses, like rip the

1445
01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:22,080
denim jacket sleeve off, rip the other sleeve off.

1446
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,480
He's all, dude, you just ripped my sleeves off.

1447
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:26,480
I'm like, come on.

1448
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:31,000
And then the whole germaphobe, like it was a hundred.

1449
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,400
He's like, can I get a glass, you know, like me get two beers.

1450
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:38,840
Can I get a glass to who the fuck asked for, you know, like if you get a draft beer, guess

1451
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,200
what's coming in the glass anyways.

1452
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,560
But when you get two beers, you just take the two fucking beers.

1453
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,120
And then can I get another glass?

1454
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,120
I was like.

1455
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,120
All right.

1456
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,120
All right.

1457
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,120
Oh, my God.

1458
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,480
And then the whole speech in the bathroom.

1459
01:23:54,480 --> 01:24:00,920
Oh, dude, that was my favorite bit from Lance.

1460
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:05,600
He's like, I was just like, I was just my legs are sore and I was trying to squat down,

1461
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:06,600
but not touch anything.

1462
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:07,600
Just like hovering.

1463
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,560
I think George Washington took a shit in here.

1464
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,920
I'm like, where the fuck did that come from?

1465
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,920
You know what I'm saying?

1466
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,640
I thought that was hilarious.

1467
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,360
And just just the fact that he got the final kill of the movie.

1468
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,360
Yeah.

1469
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,360
You know what I'm saying?

1470
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,600
And then with the with the smoothest line, you know what I'm saying?

1471
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,360
You got to know when to turn it on.

1472
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Oh, you know, it was like a whole coming back to to to full circle because the boss gave

1473
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:47,200
him the advice and he just followed it, you know, with the pastel fucking suit on.

1474
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,200
You know what I'm saying?

1475
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:53,040
He was fucking the bluest of blue suits, white shirt, six shooter.

1476
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,400
You can't get any more fucking 90s cop than that.

1477
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:02,200
Man, I loved every second of Lance.

1478
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,120
It was so good.

1479
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,120
Just the awkward.

1480
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,600
And then the boss always look at him like, what?

1481
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,800
You know, like always questioning him.

1482
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:11,800
You know what I'm saying?

1483
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,800
Like, dude, are you serious?

1484
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:21,920
Yeah, it almost felt like Bos was making fun of him just like with the girl in his bed

1485
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,360
and he's just like, well, I've never seen one of those before.

1486
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,800
But not not not not that caliper or that close.

1487
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,800
You know what I'm saying?

1488
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,360
And he's trying to catch a glance the whole fucking dime.

1489
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,360
Come on.

1490
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,840
Yeah.

1491
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:46,720
I mean, it's tough to do character development with with an action movie like this, because

1492
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:57,720
I mean, it's just like the main focus was was Joe or John, whatever.

1493
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:58,720
Yeah.

1494
01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:59,720
Yeah.

1495
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:00,720
Yeah.

1496
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,960
So that like that was the main focus.

1497
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,000
And he just did not.

1498
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,960
He just didn't.

1499
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,440
He was the same bad ass in the beginning and the same bad ass at the end.

1500
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:17,840
And like I said, there's he wasn't a better person from when he started.

1501
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,960
That's how I looked at it when it comes to character development.

1502
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,240
Like from the first thing, he had a shotgun in his face.

1503
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,560
I'll pay for the cookie to I didn't shoot him.

1504
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,520
He's going to jail, but I'm a cop.

1505
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:32,520
You know what I'm saying?

1506
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,760
Like even in the first he didn't kill anybody.

1507
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,920
He just knocked him out.

1508
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,680
And that's basically what he did at the end.

1509
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,140
So it's like all the in between.

1510
01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:41,200
He never really killed anybody.

1511
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,800
He beat a couple of people up and his you know, we didn't talk about it, which are now

1512
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,800
we're going to talk about stunts, aren't we?

1513
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,720
Yeah, I usually throw like some work and everything into like effects.

1514
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:52,720
Yeah.

1515
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,720
Then we'll wait for that.

1516
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:59,440
But there there was no there was there was like no up or down with him.

1517
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:02,400
He was the exact same bad ass from the beginning to the end.

1518
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:08,160
And so just like you said, it's hard to to place that on him because it's just like,

1519
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,880
you know, he this is this is that he's the character.

1520
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:13,880
You know, there was no struggle.

1521
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:14,880
He was a juggernaut.

1522
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,880
There's a whole fucking movie.

1523
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:18,880
Yeah.

1524
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,840
He didn't really get his ass beat at any point in time.

1525
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:23,840
Not really.

1526
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,240
Like he didn't.

1527
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,120
I think the biggest struggle he had was with the pit fight.

1528
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,120
Yeah.

1529
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,680
And he still won that.

1530
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:32,680
Yeah.

1531
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:41,400
Other than that, the only time that I mean, he ever like I would consider lost was when

1532
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,680
everyone had their guns up on him.

1533
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:44,680
Yeah.

1534
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,040
That's everyone had a gun on him and he was still trying to fight.

1535
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,280
Yeah.

1536
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,280
So unfortunately, because of that, I think.

1537
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:58,680
I think we're going to be at like a sixty five.

1538
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,160
No, no, that's fair.

1539
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,360
I was like, I would like myself.

1540
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,760
I was already thinking 60.

1541
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,560
I was like, you know what I'm saying?

1542
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:12,440
Because like it's hard like Lance is the only reason it's a 60 to me.

1543
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:14,760
That's just you know, I'm saying you can't for me.

1544
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,880
I can't like justify any other character.

1545
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,200
You know, I'm saying that's like that.

1546
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:21,520
That made me feel a certain way.

1547
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,680
You know what I'm saying?

1548
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:27,320
Because like even with Gut, he was still the same fool from beginning to the end.

1549
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,680
But the only thing is, the sympathy I felt for him was the exact same sympathy I felt

1550
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,680
from at the end.

1551
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:37,640
So I was like, I couldn't even give that character any kind of like score development on like,

1552
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:43,080
you know, like it could have been something so much more with that character and a growth

1553
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:49,760
development of a relationship and a partnership with John or Joe, whoever we want to call

1554
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,840
him and Gut.

1555
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,280
And then to all, you know, be created and tailored all the way to the end.

1556
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,640
But it just that just never happened.

1557
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:58,640
Yeah.

1558
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:04,640
I think what action movies fail to do.

1559
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:08,440
And this is just kind of in general, because I'm looking back at some of like the other

1560
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:13,600
character development scores that we've scored pretty low.

1561
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:21,960
And the issue with it is that they don't challenge the main characters values or morals.

1562
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,320
Yeah.

1563
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:34,200
And like, I know that with with with with whatever you want to call him, John, he was

1564
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,880
like challenged to kill people.

1565
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:37,880
Yeah.

1566
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,640
But he was able to just kind of like sneak them away.

1567
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,920
Exactly.

1568
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,560
And so like, he never really challenged that.

1569
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:53,880
I feel like if he would have been like had to do it in front of like the brotherhood.

1570
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:54,880
Yeah.

1571
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,760
I think that would have really challenged his his character.

1572
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,760
Exactly.

1573
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,560
And maybe made him like struggle with that.

1574
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,920
How is he going to get out of that?

1575
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:03,920
Yeah.

1576
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,400
It's some kind of internal monologue where it's like, oh, yeah.

1577
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:12,980
Or just dealing with like if he did end up killing that person, like how would he handle

1578
01:30:12,980 --> 01:30:19,800
the guilt or handle the just just that situation in general as a whole?

1579
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:26,760
Like I think I think a lot of action directors overlook that we're interested in seeing that.

1580
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:27,760
Yeah.

1581
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,760
Like it's not like it doesn't just work in in dramas or.

1582
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:32,760
Yeah.

1583
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:33,760
Thrillers and horrors.

1584
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:38,960
We know that we like to see the conflict in the inside of the mind of a hero because it

1585
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:40,560
makes it real.

1586
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:44,280
You don't say I understand fantasy heroes where they have to be stoic at all points

1587
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,160
in times because they have to have that.

1588
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,000
But the thing is, too, is like if you get a little bit of like that connection of like

1589
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,020
why he's really doing what he's doing.

1590
01:30:55,020 --> 01:30:56,080
You know what I'm saying?

1591
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:57,640
Because like we understand he's a cop.

1592
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:05,520
We understand he's an aggressive, not willing to do excessive force to get the job done.

1593
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,720
But you know, that's the extent of what it is.

1594
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,280
You know what I'm saying?

1595
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:15,480
Yeah, it's just challenge him, push him to go becoming excessive.

1596
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:16,480
Yeah.

1597
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:18,680
Or it's just anything like that.

1598
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,840
Like I don't even feel like they.

1599
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:27,160
Like I thought that they were going to take like a good route of him going instead of

1600
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:34,320
shooting for justice, going for like just pure vengeance or revenge because of Nancy.

1601
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,520
Yep.

1602
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,120
But that like nothing ever came with that either.

1603
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,280
And once again, forgotten in the flow.

1604
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,760
Yeah, it almost felt like, hey, this could have been a booty call.

1605
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,320
Like what the hell?

1606
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:48,320
Exactly.

1607
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:53,760
You just killed it, bro.

1608
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,160
So you said 60.

1609
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:56,160
Yeah, 60.

1610
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:57,160
All right.

1611
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:02,760
And that averages us out to a sixty two point five for character development.

1612
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:04,400
All right.

1613
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,000
Next up, we got effects.

1614
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:13,120
So like I said, this counts practical effects, action, like stunt work kind of just covers

1615
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,080
the entire spectrum of effects.

1616
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,680
And I was going to say this earlier, but I'll say it in here.

1617
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,960
The effects in this movie were great to me.

1618
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:30,680
And the one thing I loved about the action and the stunt work in this movie was because

1619
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:37,840
John was a juggernaut, every time he tossed somebody, it was clear across the room.

1620
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,840
Every time.

1621
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:43,520
It did not matter how far the wall was.

1622
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,320
Somebody hit a wall when he threw him.

1623
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:46,320
You know what I'm saying?

1624
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,280
It was just it was just if you go back, you can like I think like four or five people,

1625
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:55,480
he just like it wasn't even like this huge.

1626
01:32:55,480 --> 01:32:56,880
It was like, who?

1627
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,800
And then like one of those like, you know, like when someone takes that rag doll and

1628
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,520
throws it against the wall and it just like clops it and it falls.

1629
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,840
That's exactly what happened every time.

1630
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:12,960
And it just felt so good to see that because it was just like, this is the kind of effect

1631
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:19,520
I love to see because it's so corny, but it flows so smoothly because it's just like,

1632
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,520
wait, huh?

1633
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:24,800
Like, like just just because it'd be like the slightest chuck.

1634
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:31,440
And then you then you turn around and this is a full speed body hitting the wall.

1635
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,560
Yeah.

1636
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:40,320
And we try to like when we do talk about effects, we try not to like compare it to anything

1637
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,640
that you're going to see today.

1638
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:42,720
Oh, yeah.

1639
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,640
We always try to compare it to like the times.

1640
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,640
Yeah.

1641
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:53,560
But I mean, like the laws of physics did not apply to this movie whatsoever.

1642
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,040
At all.

1643
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,360
But that's how an action movie is supposed to be.

1644
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,160
Guns are never supposed to run out of bullets.

1645
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:01,840
Everything's supposed to explode.

1646
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:02,840
And you know what?

1647
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,840
People get tossed through walls.

1648
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:05,840
You know what I'm saying?

1649
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:13,960
And that's a key action movie for me is because it's literally like like, you know, I'm in

1650
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:14,960
an action movie.

1651
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:19,480
I like realism, but there's got to be a little exaggeration in there.

1652
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:25,840
And I felt that this had just enough exaggeration where it was just like, OK, that was hilarious.

1653
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,640
But also, too, in the heat of the moment, that was good.

1654
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:29,640
Yeah.

1655
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:34,800
Like they they followed it up like something corny and cheesy was something that was actually

1656
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,920
like pretty sick.

1657
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:45,920
Like oh, oh, and the in the Capitol building when what's his face was like driving down

1658
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:51,880
the the hallway, get shot off his motorcycle and his motorcycle goes launching out the

1659
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,000
window and hits the helicopter like that was sick.

1660
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:02,800
It was in the instantaneous explosion is always the best because it's like the motorcycle

1661
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,360
hits it right before it hits it.

1662
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,160
You can see where the crop happens and it's like, like gone.

1663
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,640
I'm like, yes, yes.

1664
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:12,640
You know what I'm saying?

1665
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,160
You can see that cut scene where it's like.

1666
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,360
I see what you did there.

1667
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,360
Yeah.

1668
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:28,360
But I mean, if you can say anything about this movie, it's consistent because like when

1669
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:33,640
when he's chasing ice and then ice crashes into the car and the car just explodes.

1670
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,640
Yeah.

1671
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,920
Like, OK, that wouldn't happen.

1672
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:37,920
It would not.

1673
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:44,120
And he would just not say, you know, like, like it, it just everything exploded, though.

1674
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:45,720
It just needed to be tapped.

1675
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,040
Just a little love tap.

1676
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,040
Boom.

1677
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:53,560
Because I think it was like four or five explosions where that's exactly where it happened.

1678
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:54,560
Yeah.

1679
01:35:54,560 --> 01:36:00,520
They freaking got the like whoever did the makeup on ice and that other dude when he

1680
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,240
got burnt up, that looked real good.

1681
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:05,240
It looks so good.

1682
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:06,240
Yeah.

1683
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,920
And it's gruesome to look at, too, because you're like, oh, what the fuck?

1684
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,520
You know, I forgot how good it was because like even when they showed the guy, you know,

1685
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,520
in the hospital exploded, he was just like, oh, fuck, that was just kill me.

1686
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:16,520
I don't want to say no.

1687
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:22,600
This this bitch is going to marry you and take care of you for the rest of your life.

1688
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,800
He's like, I'm hurting.

1689
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:25,800
All right.

1690
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:32,160
And I just got hit with a grenade.

1691
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:37,800
And then like two or three scenes later, they're driving off in a motorcycle.

1692
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:45,520
The shit that they pulled off there, like them getting ice's body to pull that Viking

1693
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,200
funeral like that's.

1694
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,200
Gruesome.

1695
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:58,480
You know, what I love, too, is like right when the I can only imagine the thought process

1696
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:02,920
of what they were doing, because like like I said, he put a cigar in his mouth, light

1697
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:03,920
him up.

1698
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,000
And so instead of just lighting him up.

1699
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,000
Bucket of gas.

1700
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,000
All right, light him up.

1701
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:10,000
You know what I'm saying?

1702
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,720
I'm like, you could have not had that already done.

1703
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:13,960
You know what I'm saying?

1704
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:15,440
All that wood that was under him.

1705
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:18,080
You guys didn't pre soak that and have it prepared.

1706
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,200
You're just like bucket of gas light.

1707
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:26,600
You know what I'm saying?

1708
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,640
That whole scene was just as trippy as all hell.

1709
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,440
I'm just like, this is so excessive and I'm here for it.

1710
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:35,760
You guys got my attention.

1711
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:43,080
You know, you know, let's talk about that jump scene from the helicopter out by Boz.

1712
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,760
He jumped out of the helicopter through a glass window in the roof.

1713
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:54,040
And then like this had to be at least an 11 story jump from the top of the helicopter

1714
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,080
to inside the building and then he just rolls it off.

1715
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,080
All right.

1716
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,080
He's just like, huh, huh.

1717
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,080
Okay, I'm okay.

1718
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:05,880
You know, tuck and roll.

1719
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,440
That's playing a video game with no fall damage.

1720
01:38:08,440 --> 01:38:10,480
No fall damage.

1721
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:14,560
I was like, yes, yes.

1722
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:21,040
It was just like, okay.

1723
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:28,280
The pyrotechnics on this movie alone were just insane.

1724
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:35,440
Like the trailer crashing into the gas station and just blowing right the hell up.

1725
01:38:35,440 --> 01:38:41,920
Every grenade that was thrown, every car crash that happened, everything like ended in an

1726
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,640
explosion of some sort.

1727
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:49,520
And then like you said, like people were getting thrown all over the place.

1728
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,000
All over.

1729
01:38:52,000 --> 01:39:02,880
Like before he got to the pit, like you just see some dude fly like a full like 15 feet

1730
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:03,880
over like everyone.

1731
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,880
You know what I'm saying?

1732
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:10,960
Tossed like it was nothing.

1733
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:11,960
You got it.

1734
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,960
You have to appreciate like the nineties.

1735
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:14,960
Oh yeah.

1736
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:15,960
And the consistency.

1737
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:16,960
You know what I'm saying?

1738
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,880
I was like, nah, everything's going to be like this.

1739
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:20,880
Yeah.

1740
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:28,920
They, they kept everything like super, I mean to their standard of like realism.

1741
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:33,040
Oh, it's cheesy now, but back then, just like you said, you got to, you got to think about

1742
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,880
it then.

1743
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,260
That was, that was the narrative.

1744
01:39:36,260 --> 01:39:37,260
That's how things were.

1745
01:39:37,260 --> 01:39:38,260
You know what I'm saying?

1746
01:39:38,260 --> 01:39:45,080
It's like almost like a, a last action hero style of action where it's like, it's comical.

1747
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,640
I know it's comical, but this is how we're doing it.

1748
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,080
But it was so serious in the nineties.

1749
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:57,880
I'm trying to think of what I would give this stuff.

1750
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:59,920
Oh, it's high for me, bro.

1751
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:00,920
It's really high for me.

1752
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,840
I'm like 88 right away.

1753
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:08,160
That's actually around where I was at.

1754
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:09,960
I wasn't quite at an 88.

1755
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:15,000
I was around like an 87, but yeah, like I was, I'm in that.

1756
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,000
In that range.

1757
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,440
Like it was good.

1758
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:25,560
It's just the only thing I'm docking for is just maybe just the excessive explosions.

1759
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:29,600
Like that's just, that's just the no explosions reason, but okay.

1760
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:30,600
Yeah.

1761
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:35,560
It's just docking for that little bit of like, Hey, we're, we're completely ignoring the

1762
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:36,840
laws of physics here.

1763
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:37,840
Okay.

1764
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,200
You're going to take some, you're going to, we're going to dock you some points here,

1765
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,520
but like have at it.

1766
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,920
All right, so that averages us out to an 87.5.

1767
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,480
All right.

1768
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:49,960
All right.

1769
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:51,800
Next up we got music.

1770
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,440
So this one's out of 10.

1771
01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:54,440
Okay.

1772
01:40:54,440 --> 01:40:57,880
Well, it had a good score.

1773
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:58,880
You know what I'm saying?

1774
01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,880
The good, good music.

1775
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,600
And like I said, this is early 90s, so you're getting it's all, and it's the boss.

1776
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:04,600
So you get nothing but hair metal.

1777
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,000
And to me, it meshes well.

1778
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,000
It reminded me of a song.

1779
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,440
So I went back and looked it up, but it's just like, it, it's decent.

1780
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:14,080
It's real decent.

1781
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:20,440
Like in even with this, my score for this would be an 85 because I'll play it was, you

1782
01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:25,440
know, it had dramatic music, but also to the soundtrack was, you know, decent.

1783
01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:26,440
Yeah.

1784
01:41:26,440 --> 01:41:27,440
All right.

1785
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:33,080
So an 85 that'd be about an eight for, yeah.

1786
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:34,160
I know.

1787
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:36,720
I, you know what I mean?

1788
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,720
Yeah.

1789
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,200
That's, that's actually about where, where I'm at too.

1790
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:46,720
I thought the, the scores that they did have in there were pretty good.

1791
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,280
The music that they had really enhanced the scene.

1792
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,320
Didn't feel out of place at all.

1793
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:54,320
Yeah.

1794
01:41:54,320 --> 01:42:00,280
Um, yeah, I think the only thing that was missing for me was just one outstanding song

1795
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,520
or just one thing that got stuck in my head.

1796
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:03,520
Oh yeah.

1797
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:08,160
That trailer song that needs to be like, this is, this is the theme song of this movie.

1798
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:13,200
It didn't have that, but like I said, it, it, all the other music in it, it, it, you

1799
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:14,200
know what I'm saying?

1800
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,120
It was perfect for the time.

1801
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:17,120
Yeah, absolutely.

1802
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:24,280
Um, so yeah, that averages us out to an eight next up.

1803
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:37,080
We have costumes, uh, which is also out of 10 and dude, someone was working overtime

1804
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:38,080
on this.

1805
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:45,320
Well, let me tell you now, it takes at least three people to get that mullet on point.

1806
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:50,600
The truckload of moose and hairspray, all the aquanet, then this movie right here put

1807
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:55,240
in a hole in the ozone layer with the amount of hairspray that was used.

1808
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,720
Oh, I believe it.

1809
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:06,000
Um, dude, I, whoever was in charge of costuming ice.

1810
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:10,040
Did a very not good job.

1811
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:16,000
Well, the hair alone, I'm like, you could have slicked it back.

1812
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,000
It wasn't even that, like it was from scene to scene.

1813
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,440
It was like, it was different.

1814
01:43:20,440 --> 01:43:23,680
Like in one scene he was like super sweaty.

1815
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,000
His hair looked wet and just all types of greasy.

1816
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,520
And then the next one, it looked like he was in a fricking L'Oreal commercial.

1817
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:31,520
Yeah, exactly.

1818
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:36,520
It was all frode, like styled out to where like, all right, you know what I'm saying?

1819
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,080
I'm like, is it humid today?

1820
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,080
Yeah.

1821
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,640
Then it's like he believed, like suddenly believes in baby powder and just looks dry

1822
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,640
as like anything.

1823
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:45,640
Exactly.

1824
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:50,920
And most of his characters always play a sweaty guy because he's always like so, you know,

1825
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,640
manic all the time.

1826
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:58,200
And yet, like I said, it's just, but the thing is though, everything was bikered out.

1827
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,320
The patches look real good.

1828
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,920
The costumes, like I said, except for the guy who looked like the same, who looked like

1829
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,200
ice is like, it's no understanding of that.

1830
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:09,760
You know what I'm saying?

1831
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:15,520
And just like the, you couldn't get tighter jeans and you couldn't get tighter shirts.

1832
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:16,520
You know what I'm saying?

1833
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:18,360
And every other person had a do rag on.

1834
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:19,360
Yeah.

1835
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,360
Or for the people that were wearing shirts.

1836
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:22,360
Yeah.

1837
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:23,600
You know what I'm saying?

1838
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,720
I think there were like, in this movie, they're like all women, no shirts.

1839
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,720
Yeah, basically.

1840
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,600
So we're trying to get people to see this movie.

1841
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:34,600
Oh, sorry.

1842
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:35,600
Yeah.

1843
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:36,600
Yeah.

1844
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,640
The only one that ever seemed to wear one was Nancy.

1845
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:39,640
Yeah.

1846
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,920
The only, you know, cause she had a lead role.

1847
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:54,600
Now I'll tell you the, the, the, the costumes, like I said, for a biker movie, everyone was

1848
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:55,600
decked out.

1849
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:56,600
You know what I'm saying?

1850
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,600
Everyone definitely.

1851
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:02,360
I would give, I'd give the costumes in this movie, except just like you said, I would

1852
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,680
have to give it a seven.

1853
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:08,400
I would definitely go seven because like I said, there was inconsistencies and then to

1854
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:15,940
the stunt guys costumes, like in the motorcycle scene, like a ice in the chase, the big chase

1855
01:45:15,940 --> 01:45:24,240
scene with ice and Joe and John, it went from do rag to no do rag, do rag to no do rag,

1856
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,520
do rag glasses, no do rag, no glasses.

1857
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:28,520
You know what I'm saying?

1858
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:33,960
So like they're trying to hide that it's a stunt guy, but you could have kept the scene

1859
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:34,960
the whole way.

1860
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:35,960
You know what I'm saying?

1861
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,320
Cause like they would go front back, front to the back, front to the back.

1862
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:43,560
And it's like, did anybody not see that in editing?

1863
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,560
You know what I'm saying?

1864
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:45,560
Like, look, we're not reaching through.

1865
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,280
We're not rerecording this.

1866
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:55,280
Oh, it's just that the stunt man or whoever they got to play, like it was so obvious that

1867
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,760
it was not him.

1868
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:57,760
Oh yeah.

1869
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:58,760
100% obvious.

1870
01:45:58,760 --> 01:45:59,760
So freaking obvious.

1871
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:04,560
You know, it would be funny if the person that looked like ice that was in the, that

1872
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,520
I'm pretty sure that was just a stunt guy.

1873
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:09,840
That would make sense, right?

1874
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,600
Dude, that would make sense.

1875
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:15,120
That would make a ton of sense.

1876
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,200
That like, that still trips me up.

1877
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,560
It's just, I know that it was someone else.

1878
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:22,560
I think.

1879
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,160
Like I'm not even a hundred percent sure.

1880
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,000
Like I'm not sure if they're just like, Oh, we included ice and we just like planned his

1881
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,000
death later.

1882
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:36,120
So it's just like, okay, we just threw in the scenes where this guy's not talking in

1883
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:37,680
the middle of the scene.

1884
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:38,680
Yeah.

1885
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,160
They could have done anything different.

1886
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:44,800
They could have gave him like shorter hair, giving them longer hair, shaved him.

1887
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,600
Like yeah, he didn't have to have a five o'clock shout just like him.

1888
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:48,600
Guess what?

1889
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:49,600
Completely different person.

1890
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,600
Yeah.

1891
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,160
It's just like, come on people.

1892
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,720
Come on, lazy.

1893
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:05,600
I am a little higher on the costumes score just because I like to look for like a good

1894
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:06,600
silhouette.

1895
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,920
If nudity counts as costume, my score's going to change.

1896
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:16,520
And I'm saying that I'm just being clear because if nudity is counted as a costume, my score's

1897
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,840
going to go to a nine and that's it.

1898
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:20,840
You know what I'm saying?

1899
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:21,840
Yeah, no.

1900
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:28,720
I was more talking about like Baza's outfit.

1901
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:30,600
Oh yeah.

1902
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:36,520
I always try to think like, or when I'm looking at costumes, I always try to consider like

1903
01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:39,000
a solid silhouette.

1904
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:44,080
Like if you have a solid silhouette, like my score is pretty high and it's just based

1905
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,920
off of whatever I feel the rest of the cast had.

1906
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:54,960
And so I'm sitting at an eight because if you were just to give me a silhouette of Baza,

1907
01:47:54,960 --> 01:48:00,120
you could pick it out in a heartbeat.

1908
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:07,480
It's just everyone else, like, I mean, they fit the mold, like the biker gang look.

1909
01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:10,680
So I mean, no complaints there.

1910
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:17,800
So I'm going a little bit higher because of the just the overall aesthetic, which wouldn't

1911
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,800
matter because we round down.

1912
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:21,800
So it goes like that.

1913
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:27,440
Like I said, you're going to have to have a talk with Rose and ask him, are we going

1914
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:29,280
to consider nudity costumes?

1915
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:34,320
Because like I said, that does dramatically change scores when it comes to that.

1916
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:35,320
You know what I'm saying?

1917
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:38,960
Because technically, you know, they don't have to dress for it, but it's part of their

1918
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,080
aesthetic.

1919
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:49,280
Yeah, we did talk about Fifty Shades of Grey way back when.

1920
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:55,600
So I don't I'd have to go back and listen to that one because I don't know if we considered

1921
01:48:55,600 --> 01:49:00,120
that to be costuming.

1922
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:01,680
It goes like that.

1923
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:02,680
Yeah.

1924
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,120
So costumes sitting at a seven.

1925
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:06,120
All right.

1926
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:07,120
All right.

1927
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,760
Last up, we got our own personal grade.

1928
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:15,280
So this one up, I'll go first.

1929
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,040
This one is a nine for me.

1930
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:22,320
And the reason it's a nine because it's this one's out of a hundred.

1931
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:23,320
Sorry.

1932
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:24,320
Oh, out of a hundred.

1933
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,320
OK, so if you're doing out of a hundred, then this right here, if out of a hundred, I should

1934
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,960
have remembered that out of a hundred.

1935
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,840
This is a ninety five.

1936
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:36,280
And the reason this is a ninety five is because it's nostalgic.

1937
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,960
I seen it when it came out in the driving.

1938
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:40,600
All right.

1939
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:44,920
And I seen it because my mom didn't know what I was watching because it was a double feature

1940
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,860
and it came after the movie that I was watching first.

1941
01:49:47,860 --> 01:49:50,320
So I had got an eyeful.

1942
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,320
You know what I'm saying?

1943
01:49:51,320 --> 01:50:02,760
So at a young age at in ninety one, I was me trying to think of I was eight years old.

1944
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,120
So this was the shit.

1945
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:10,160
And so it holds that I watched this through nostalgia glasses.

1946
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,480
And I enjoy it.

1947
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:13,940
It was fun to rewatch.

1948
01:50:13,940 --> 01:50:15,880
It was fun to watch again.

1949
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:21,800
I don't go out of my way to watch this, but I always have a good fond memory of watching

1950
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:22,800
this.

1951
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:23,800
Nice.

1952
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,680
I'm I'm a little lower.

1953
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,680
I'm a little lower.

1954
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:34,080
Real.

1955
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:40,080
I think I'm going to be sitting at like a sixty seven for this.

1956
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,080
It was.

1957
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,080
Enjoyable.

1958
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,760
Yeah, like it was enjoyable.

1959
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:45,760
I had a good time.

1960
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:51,960
I was laughing at damn near everything that this movie was doing.

1961
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,880
It was.

1962
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:57,320
A really good time overall.

1963
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:04,240
Like I had an absolute blast, but just if you like it was calling shit out like all

1964
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:09,520
the time, like, wait, I thought that dude was dead when when not ice was on.

1965
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:10,520
Yeah.

1966
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,480
And.

1967
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:16,160
Just trying to understand, like, hey, why, why the hell did they kill the guardsman?

1968
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,080
Because they never really explain that.

1969
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,720
And just the fact that they bring them to the compound, kill them and then take them

1970
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:21,720
back.

1971
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:22,720
Yeah.

1972
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,720
And put them in a crate.

1973
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:25,720
Yeah.

1974
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:30,520
What the hell is that all about?

1975
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:31,880
Just weird shit like that.

1976
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,880
It was funny.

1977
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:34,320
It was fun to laugh at.

1978
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:40,120
Like I could imagine getting a bunch of friends and watching something like this and just

1979
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,400
laughing your ass off the entire time.

1980
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:48,560
But yeah, overall, yes, sixty seven for me.

1981
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:49,560
It was.

1982
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:50,560
It was.

1983
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:51,560
I respect it.

1984
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:58,680
Like I said, I caught this at a very young age and like I said, it's one of those movies

1985
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,120
that's always held a little spot in my heart.

1986
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:05,760
And I'm happy that I was able to share this with you and have this conversation with you,

1987
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:11,440
because like I said, nobody wanted to watch this with me.

1988
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:17,400
Like I've been like I want to say a year I've been trying for a year to get someone to do

1989
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,040
this with me.

1990
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:24,560
And everyone's been like, you know, you know what I'm saying or no response, you know what

1991
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:25,560
I'm saying?

1992
01:52:25,560 --> 01:52:30,880
And it's just like, no, like I like I enjoyed this enough to where I'd love to share.

1993
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,520
I'd love to talk about it.

1994
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:33,520
And you know what?

1995
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,120
Like I said, the surprise look on your face every time you were describing something was

1996
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:43,480
exactly imagine, like I said, an eight year old kid seeing everything that you just saw

1997
01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:45,840
with no parental supervision.

1998
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:46,840
You know what I'm saying?

1999
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:52,000
All 100 percent unrated driving movie theaters, me sitting in a car, eating a big ass bag

2000
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,760
of popcorn and some soda watching this.

2001
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:55,760
Yes.

2002
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:56,760
Oh, man.

2003
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:02,320
Yeah.

2004
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,800
Like I said, we will break down damn near anything.

2005
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:13,560
Like I don't know if there's anything we won't break down.

2006
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:20,320
Like I know other like I have a couple other movie podcasts I listened to.

2007
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:24,760
I mean, hell, I started listening to Terrible Terror because of you.

2008
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:26,720
Terrible Terror, that one.

2009
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,320
So he goes hard to paint, though.

2010
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:30,320
Yeah.

2011
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:37,080
So it's I I know that there's a movie that every every one of those has said, like we

2012
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,920
like this will be the last episode that we ever do.

2013
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:43,720
Like if we ever talk about this movie, just know the podcast is over.

2014
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,160
And I'm like, our standards aren't that high.

2015
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,160
Not at all.

2016
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:59,920
Yeah, all right, well, that averages us out to an 81 for our personal score.

2017
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:10,840
So that brings our final All Bros and Angry Dad podcast letter grade for Stone Cold to

2018
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:14,800
a C plus.

2019
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:19,480
So higher than I thought I was going to get.

2020
01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:20,480
Yeah.

2021
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:27,360
Yeah, that's a that's way higher than I thought I was going to get.

2022
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:32,160
That's why I love our system, because I always I still get surprised.

2023
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:34,440
You know, it's like, huh, what?

2024
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:35,440
C plus.

2025
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:36,440
Yeah.

2026
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:42,360
Oh, it is like barely.

2027
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,960
Just slightly there.

2028
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:44,960
Yeah.

2029
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:49,040
So is it's at the bottom of our C plus movie.

2030
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,360
Yeah, I can live with that, though.

2031
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:55,880
I'm glad this movie made a C plus because I definitely want to hear what it's above

2032
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,080
and what it's below.

2033
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,640
Some of these are going to not feel great.

2034
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,760
All right.

2035
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:04,760
So it.

2036
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:07,760
Wait, what the hell?

2037
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:09,880
Hold on.

2038
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,360
Something got goofy.

2039
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,800
OK, here we go.

2040
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:15,800
All right.

2041
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:21,120
So Stone Cold is sitting at a six or seventy six point five.

2042
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,120
Nice.

2043
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:31,560
So that puts it below unhinged, which is at a seventy six point eight seven.

2044
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,760
Puts it below the hit man's wife's bodyguard.

2045
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:36,120
I can live with that.

2046
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:40,600
A seventy six point nine one.

2047
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:42,680
Puts it below Boondock Saints.

2048
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,680
Oh, hey, I can live with that, too.

2049
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:50,040
Which is at a seventy seven point one two.

2050
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,760
The Strangers pray at night.

2051
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:53,760
Nice.

2052
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,640
Which is at a seventy seven point one eight.

2053
01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:01,640
And then finally, it is below Aquaman, which is at a seventy seven point three.

2054
01:56:01,640 --> 01:56:05,280
I could definitely if it would have just did a little bit better than Aquaman, I'd have

2055
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,040
been OK.

2056
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:13,200
The margins are super, super close, though, like.

2057
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:18,040
It's not even a it's point eight percent, like a point percent difference.

2058
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:19,040
So it is.

2059
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:20,040
And it's so close.

2060
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:21,700
Yeah, it's really tight.

2061
01:56:21,700 --> 01:56:28,240
Like our margins, like when I when I go through like the five above or the five below, most

2062
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:34,560
of the time, it's not even getting a full percentage away.

2063
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,200
All right, so.

2064
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:43,840
Where it's at puts it above all the movies I'm about to list now are all C movies because

2065
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,360
this was like our bottom C plus movie.

2066
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:55,600
But yeah, so that puts it above my spy.

2067
01:56:55,600 --> 01:57:00,640
Which is a at a seventy five point eight seven.

2068
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:06,240
It's a below or above the Adams family.

2069
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,080
Which is at a seventy five point four five.

2070
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:10,080
Right.

2071
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,520
Yeah, the animated one.

2072
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,520
OK, OK, that's a little different.

2073
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:19,200
I'm about to say I was like, man.

2074
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:20,200
This one kind of hurts.

2075
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:26,360
A it is above Ant-Man and the Wasp.

2076
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:31,240
Which is at a seventy five point three three.

2077
01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:35,400
It's also above the Rise of Skywalker.

2078
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,800
Which is at a seventy five point three one.

2079
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:38,800
All right.

2080
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:39,800
All right.

2081
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:43,080
You know, the Stone Cold got a little weight behind it.

2082
01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:44,080
Yeah.

2083
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:51,520
And then it is above Venom, which is at a seventy five point two two.

2084
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:57,120
See what happens when you miss them.

2085
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:58,120
Yeah, all right.

2086
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:01,880
It could have dramatically changed the score.

2087
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,160
Yeah.

2088
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:12,320
So we have twenty four C plus movies and this is placed at number twenty four.

2089
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:13,320
Just there.

2090
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:14,320
Yeah.

2091
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:20,520
But other than Ant-Man, I wonder why Ant-Man and the Wasp is so low.

2092
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:21,520
Anyway.

2093
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,200
I think it has a pretty decent home.

2094
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:28,120
The only one I'm not super agreeing with is Ant-Man and the Wasp.

2095
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:29,120
Yeah, I forget.

2096
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,120
Sometimes I forget what happened.

2097
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:34,640
Yeah, I honestly forgot what happened with that one.

2098
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:35,640
Hey, man.

2099
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:36,640
What?

2100
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,640
Must have been Michelle Pfeiffer.

2101
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:43,040
No, it was the music.

2102
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:47,360
It was the music and the story that killed it.

2103
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:56,680
Which it score or this, which is exactly where it outshined or Stone Cold outshined it.

2104
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:58,360
So yeah, it makes sense.

2105
01:58:58,360 --> 01:58:59,360
It tracks.

2106
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:02,680
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with it.

2107
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:06,320
I mean, a C plus is a pretty decent score for this movie.

2108
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:07,320
Oh, yeah.

2109
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:08,320
Now, this is extreme.

2110
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,480
Like I said, I was predicting like D, D minus.

2111
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,080
You know what I'm saying?

2112
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:15,080
Yeah.

2113
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:22,840
I realistically like because I have an idea of where these movies can place.

2114
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:27,360
I was actually like thinking like a mid C.

2115
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,360
Okay.

2116
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:35,480
Like that was like my initial thoughts on it, like a mid C, like maybe a little bit

2117
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:36,920
closer to C minus.

2118
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:42,240
But I thought it was good enough not to quite be in the D area.

2119
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:43,240
Okay.

2120
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:49,520
You know, like say, you know, when I see these movies, like I said, we talk about like a

2121
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:55,760
B movie and there are C movies and there are D movies.

2122
01:59:55,760 --> 02:00:01,720
And this one always falls under the point because like I can talk about it.

2123
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:02,780
Nobody knows it.

2124
02:00:02,780 --> 02:00:07,360
But if I mentioned the Boz, they know the Boz, but they don't know the movie.

2125
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:13,360
And so like, you know, it doesn't hold well with age with a lot of people because like

2126
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:17,040
I said, this is just like one of those ones are like, do I need to watch a motorcycle

2127
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,040
movie?

2128
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,440
Yeah.

2129
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:29,640
I mean, our our the scores have to be really low to even reach it.

2130
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,040
The D area.

2131
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:32,040
Yeah.

2132
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:41,000
So we have four D plus movies, two D movies, two D minus movies and one F.

2133
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,000
Damn.

2134
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:49,000
Like it's like like that.

2135
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:53,800
Like there's I feel like we think that there's something redeemable in every movie.

2136
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:54,800
Yeah.

2137
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,160
And it's just like those few there's not.

2138
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:04,560
Well, you know, there are movies that can't recover and it just is what it is.

2139
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:05,560
Yeah.

2140
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:12,360
But yeah, most of the time, like whenever there's just a movie that we just do not like,

2141
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,560
it still ends up in the C range.

2142
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:15,560
Yeah.

2143
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:19,800
Like there's just one that we just have like we come out of and just are like, no, that

2144
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:20,800
was just garbage.

2145
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:21,800
Yeah.

2146
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:25,640
But we need to find something redeemable about it.

2147
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:26,640
Exactly.

2148
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:30,200
Well, yeah.

2149
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:34,440
So anyway, that concludes this week's breakdown.

2150
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:38,360
Ben, thank you for joining me on this episode.

2151
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:40,240
This was an absolute blast.

2152
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:46,920
I'm glad that we got to talk about this one for real.

2153
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:52,680
So yeah, I mean, if you have any other movies that you have been wanting to break down forever,

2154
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,440
like hit us up.

2155
02:01:54,440 --> 02:01:55,880
No, I definitely will.

2156
02:01:55,880 --> 02:02:01,120
You know, I'll throw a few out towards you because like I said, I got a couple of hidden

2157
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:07,600
gems where I'm like, I enjoy them because they're a guilty pleasure, but they're to

2158
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:10,400
me, they're just a fun watch.

2159
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:12,040
Those are usually the best movies.

2160
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:14,160
Guilty pleasures are guilty pleasures.

2161
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:21,560
They're exactly like their movies that I've continued to watch that I know are just complete

2162
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:22,560
trash.

2163
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:23,560
All the trash.

2164
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:27,400
But it's just like, I'd like a train wreck.

2165
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:28,840
Yeah.

2166
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:35,600
Like I think my guilty pleasure is the Punisher movie from like early 2000s.

2167
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:36,600
Oh yeah.

2168
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:38,600
That one's a classic.

2169
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:40,880
I don't care what anybody says.

2170
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:42,000
That's the only pun.

2171
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:50,920
Like I said, I love the TV series, Netflix series Punisher plays it perfect.

2172
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:59,040
But that early 90s John Travolta Punisher, that is the perfect Punisher in my eyes where

2173
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:04,040
it's like tactile, smooth, never fucking unhinged.

2174
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:06,520
Just I'm there to do a job.

2175
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:11,240
And that is why I always love that Punisher the most because like he was able to take

2176
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:20,740
himself out of being a bad guy and being an antihero and was able to be like, Nope, it's

2177
02:03:20,740 --> 02:03:26,320
by the book and my book and it's precise, clean and smooth.

2178
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:28,240
Everything well thought out, everything planned out.

2179
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:29,320
I'm killing you.

2180
02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:30,320
You know what I'm saying?

2181
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:31,320
That's it.

2182
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:32,320
I love that, that, that precision.

2183
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:33,760
Cause I'm a huge Punisher fan.

2184
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:39,240
I've read almost every Punisher magazine comic book you can ever imagine growing up.

2185
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:40,240
You know what I'm saying?

2186
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:41,240
I could never, never.

2187
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,080
War Journal was my favorite version.

2188
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:44,560
It just is what it is.

2189
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:49,800
And so I just love that, that version of him, you know, even though Dolph Lundgren played

2190
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:54,880
a great Punisher, it still wasn't that one though.

2191
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:56,200
Yeah.

2192
02:03:56,200 --> 02:04:05,600
I was way too young to watch that movie when I, when I did, I wasn't actually even, my

2193
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:08,720
dad didn't know I was watching it with him.

2194
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:13,560
I was hiding out behind the couch and just kind of like peeking from behind it.

2195
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:20,400
And the scene, like it's still fricking like scarred in my brain, but the scene when the,

2196
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:25,840
the dude with all the piercings is getting them like ripped down, he's just like screaming

2197
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:27,500
and everything.

2198
02:04:27,500 --> 02:04:31,320
That is like the scene that's just like seared into my brain.

2199
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:36,760
And I've seen so much more violent shit than that in like the many years that I've been

2200
02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:38,460
watching movies.

2201
02:04:38,460 --> 02:04:44,360
When I go back and rewatch that Punisher, I still like, oh, like cringed.

2202
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:49,240
And then the whole, like in the, in the, in the nightclub scene fight where he puts that

2203
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:54,240
knife right through the bottom of the jaw into the dude's head, I'm like, ooh, you know

2204
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:55,240
what I'm saying?

2205
02:04:55,240 --> 02:05:00,640
And then, you know, Kevin Nash, you know, big dad, big daddy sexy, cool, fucking really

2206
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:02,120
got stabbed into shoulders.

2207
02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,900
Like fuck, you know, didn't even flinch.

2208
02:05:04,900 --> 02:05:06,600
That was the actual scene they use.

2209
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:10,240
Like, uh, you know what I'm saying?

2210
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:13,360
Man, dude, that movie's, I love that movie.

2211
02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:18,960
Did you watch the, uh, the short film that they did for it, the dirty laundry?

2212
02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:23,080
There's a small clip they made, like a little teaser trailer for the, uh, for part, uh,

2213
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,280
for a second Punisher.

2214
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:31,120
They were trying to, they made it just to kind of tease the, um, the, the, the, uh,

2215
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:35,880
the, the studio to make the next, you know, the part two, but they never did.

2216
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:41,800
So if you go on YouTube, look up Punisher dirty laundry, it's so fucking great and so

2217
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:42,920
fucking brutal.

2218
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,840
It's like, oh, I go back and rewatch it every swap.

2219
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:47,000
It's like 15 minute clip.

2220
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:53,840
It's like, like that's what we need for the next fucking one.

2221
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:54,840
You know?

2222
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:55,840
Yeah.

2223
02:05:55,840 --> 02:06:03,080
Dude, I, my only hope was just because like the, the rights finally went back to Marvel

2224
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,080
or to Disney.

2225
02:06:05,080 --> 02:06:12,840
Um, with Daredevil and Punisher and all that, my only hope is that if, if Disney is going

2226
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:16,960
to neuter Punisher, I do not want another season of Punisher.

2227
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:21,720
Well, that's the thing is like, uh, you got to remember when, uh, Disney plus, uh, cause

2228
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:28,420
in, in the rest of the world, you had to adjust your TV rating for MA in a United States.

2229
02:06:28,420 --> 02:06:33,680
We didn't have to do that, but right when the release, the, the, um, the rights got

2230
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:39,040
back to Disney, you had to go through your Disney plus Netflix, uh, thing, log in, put

2231
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:44,760
in a password so you can adjust it for the TV MA.

2232
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,960
So it gave that mature audience, uh, log on it.

2233
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:50,320
So guess what?

2234
02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:51,320
They're not going to neuter it.

2235
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:53,000
They're going to keep it the same.

2236
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:58,600
And just from what I was reading in articles is the Punisher from that one that we like

2237
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:03,880
is going to be the direct, the wants to be the director for the new Punisher for the

2238
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:08,640
TV series and the movie, because he feels he can direct it in the right direction.

2239
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:09,640
It needs to go in.

2240
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:10,640
I'm down.

2241
02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:11,640
Yeah.

2242
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:12,640
It tries.

2243
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:13,640
I read it.

2244
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,360
I was like, yes, give me that.

2245
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:18,480
Oh man.

2246
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:21,040
I, I'm excited.

2247
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:27,560
If I'm excited for whatever the future of a Punisher comes to be.

2248
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:32,400
Like I said, whether they do another TV series and continue the seasons.

2249
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:33,400
Great.

2250
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:34,480
Cause that was beautiful.

2251
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:35,680
The way it was done.

2252
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:36,680
And you know what?

2253
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:37,680
If they give us a movie, guess what?

2254
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:41,400
I'm going to watch the movie because I like the Punisher.

2255
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:42,400
Hell yeah.

2256
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:43,400
Oh dude.

2257
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:49,680
See when they introduced him in season two of daredevil, the best.

2258
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:51,600
That was the, yeah, yeah.

2259
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:52,600
I'm sorry.

2260
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:53,600
That brutal grittiness.

2261
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:57,720
It is literally like he peeled them out of the comic book and put them into the real

2262
02:07:57,720 --> 02:07:58,720
life.

2263
02:07:58,720 --> 02:07:59,720
Oh man.

2264
02:07:59,720 --> 02:08:05,680
Dude, John Burnet Paul is just the best.

2265
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:12,560
I saw him one time after season, after season one at a, an autograph signing place.

2266
02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:15,360
I'd never realized how short he was.

2267
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:16,360
Really?

2268
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:17,360
Yeah.

2269
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:20,760
How, how, how big is he?

2270
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,360
He's got to be like five, six.

2271
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:24,360
Five, seven.

2272
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,600
He's not, oh man, that I'm six, five bro.

2273
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:31,080
And I'm like, no, he can't be that short.

2274
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:32,560
I'm looking up his height.

2275
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:34,240
Oh, he's five 11.

2276
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:35,960
No, he's not five 11.

2277
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,440
I mean, that's what it says on Google.

2278
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:40,720
You're also like six, five Ben.

2279
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:47,960
But you know, like my, you know, my kid is bigger than him and my kids five 11.

2280
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:48,960
Really?

2281
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:49,960
Yeah.

2282
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:50,960
Oh, well someone's.

2283
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:56,760
Hey, but are you sure your kid's not just super big too?

2284
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:58,080
Bro, they, they, you know what I'm saying?

2285
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:02,600
You gotta boost those numbers up.

2286
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:07,360
Oh, just eating facts.

2287
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:10,840
I've seen them in life.

2288
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:11,840
Fair enough.

2289
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:12,840
Damn.

2290
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:17,240
Now I, now like next time I, if I like ever get the opportunity to go see him, cause like

2291
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:20,080
my wife is, is five 10.

2292
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,200
She's almost five 11.

2293
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:26,400
So I just kind of want to go, like I have that reference in my head.

2294
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:27,400
That's it.

2295
02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:28,400
My wife's five 11.

2296
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:39,480
That's why I'm like, I, when I see him, I was like, no, I was like, yep.

2297
02:09:39,480 --> 02:09:41,040
Oh man.

2298
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:44,560
Anyway, that, that will be an interesting one.

2299
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:46,560
Oh yeah.

2300
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:53,080
Anyway, um, would you like to tell everyone where they could find you and all the amazing

2301
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:54,080
things that you do?

2302
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:55,080
Oh yeah.

2303
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:56,080
I'm the angry motherfucking dad.

2304
02:09:56,080 --> 02:09:57,080
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2305
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:58,080
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2306
02:09:58,080 --> 02:09:59,080
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2307
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:01,840
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2308
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2309
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:07,320
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2310
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:08,360
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2311
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:09,840
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2312
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:11,720
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2313
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:12,720
And you know what?

2314
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:17,520
We'll see all motherfuckers on the next one.

2315
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:18,520
Hell yeah.

2316
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:23,360
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2317
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:25,720
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2318
02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:31,520
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2319
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:36,480
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2320
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:41,080
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2321
02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:44,520
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2322
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:51,640
And next week, I think we're going to be talking about West side story.

2323
02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:55,300
Um, yeah.

2324
02:10:55,300 --> 02:11:00,080
So you guys can look forward to that next week, but until then, this has been the all

2325
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:01,400
bros podcast.

2326
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:06,340
I'm Caleb and roses in here to do the other half.

2327
02:11:06,340 --> 02:11:10,800
So for Rose, we'll be signing off.

2328
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:11,360
Bye.