What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that also love to...
Wait.
Shit.
God damn it.
We are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but also
enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
But I don't say this shit for two weeks.
Apparently my brain is just like F you and forgets it.
Yeah, no joke.
Dude, I'm wondering if like...
I'm wondering if we should change that.
Like is that like...
B-Rail, is that like a goal you're still shooting for?
Dude, honestly at this point I don't even know what my like career goals are anymore.
I'm like so in limbo now.
Yeah, I feel like we're more on the path to be like film critics than we are to be filmmakers.
And you know what?
I'm cool with that.
I actually love critiquing movies.
I mean yeah, we have a whole...
I would freaking hope so.
We have 220 episodes.
You know what?
I feel it's time to tell you I absolutely hate doing this.
So you know what?
I'm out.
I'll still keep doing the Gacy Gazette but I'm not doing the Albrows anymore.
I'm branching off man.
Can't hold me down.
Oh man.
Yeah.
We'll talk about it but maybe that intro should change.
Okay.
Man, we changed it in 220 episodes.
Yeah, it's about time.
What is that?
Four years?
Damn, we've been doing this shit for four years.
Wow, that's awesome.
So we started back in like November of 2017.
God damn.
Yeah, so...
I forgot that we've been doing shit for that long.
I mean it's awesome.
I'm like so happy how far the Albrows have come but holy shit.
Wow.
Yeah, I know right?
Our podcast is almost old enough to go to kindergarten.
Yes!
Woo!
So look forward to a possible new intro next week.
Yeah.
Also, look forward to a surprise next week.
I'm not going to say anything but so yeah.
So we ain't got shit for 4K Spotlight because literally everything came out last week.
So if you want to know what came out last week, Uncharted came out on 4K as well as
all of the Jurassic Park and Jurassic World movies were released individually on 4K.
So if you guys want to pick any of those up, go ahead.
I'm not going to pick Uncharted but Steelbook $50, F you.
That's all I'm going to say.
And then the freaking 4K cover, I don't know why this pisses me off, but it only has Tom
Holland on the front and then on the back it has Mark Wahlberg.
I'm like they should both be on the cover.
Yeah what the hell is up with that?
Yeah, so that's kind of what's stopping me from buying.
I don't know when it's like 20 bucks so I Uncharted on 4K.
But anyway, so yeah that came out last week if you guys wanted to pick any of those up.
And then we ain't got shit for Fruit of Wall.
Excuse me.
So we're at least nothing that we really want to talk about.
Yeah.
I'm going to make a quick apology just real fast just because I've noticed that we're
having a lot of cutoff.
If there's like a lot of gaps and shit, I'll try to remove what I can but my WiFi's been
acting like super shitty lately.
We're actually going to have someone come on Friday to check it out.
You have Xfinity right?
Yeah.
Dude that sucks.
They're usually the best.
I freaking love Xfinity.
Yeah I know.
They've been great so far.
It's just for whatever reason it's been acting up something horrible.
So we're going to get that checked out and see what's going on.
But this episode might be a little funky.
Hopefully it's not.
Hopefully it's not too bad.
But just in case you hear a lot of sketchy shit, just know that that's not normal.
But yeah, so let me say a thing through the wall.
Nothing we want to talk about.
So moving into our episode which will be our day of Doctor Strange in the multiverse of
Madden.
Can't believe what he's started.
Oh man.
Dude you were just cutting out like something awful.
Oh shit.
Here I'm good.
Alright so we shut off video chat.
Hopefully that saves us some bandwidth.
But Rose what were you saying?
I was going to say since we ain't got nothing for 4k spotlight or through the wall, what
do you say we just get into our headliner of the evening?
I say let's do it.
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Alright so for this week's All Bros Headliner we will be breaking down the highly anticipated
sequel Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Ness.
So Caleb, do you want to tell everybody how we break down movies on this podcast?
Hell yeah.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into 8 different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The 8 categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spat through our algorithm and give us
a schoolhouse letter grade to base this movie off of.
Or to compare all of the movies.
So anyway, without further ado, if you have not seen Doctor Strange and the Multiverse
of Madness we are about to spoil the entire freaking movie for you so do not listen past
this point if you have not seen the movie.
You have been properly warned.
If it honestly hasn't been spoiled yet for you that is truly incredible.
I'm amazed that I actually was able to avoid spoilers because I didn't see this until the
Tuesday after it came out.
That is a feat.
That is a major feat.
And I wasn't avoiding social media or anything.
Literally everything that I, whenever I saw something Doctor Strange I just scrolled past
it as fast as I could.
Dude that's awesome because I actually had a spoiler like, so I saw it on Thursday the
first day it came out.
Yeah.
Like seriously I freaking drove from Orlando.
I left at like 10 in the morning, got to my theater at 4 and sat down to see Doctor Strange.
That is commitment.
Yeah, so it was like freaking awesome.
But yeah I saw spoilers the next day.
Okay I will say that one thing was spoiled for me.
It was just an appearance.
Okay it was an appearance and I won't say anything until I actually read the spoiler.
So yeah if you have not seen this movie spoiler alert ahead.
You have been properly warned and if you listen past this point and something gets ruined
for you it's your own damn fault.
Damn right.
Okay so America Chavez and a version of Stephen Strange are chased by a demon in the space
between universes while searching for the book of the Shanty.
Excuse me, okay wait.
Strange is killed, Chavez accidentally creates a portal that transports her son Strange's
corpse to Earth 616 where that universe's version of Strange rescues Chavez from an
octopus demon with help from the Sorcerer Supreme, Wong.
Chavez explains that the demons are hunting her because she has the power to travel through
the multiverse.
Recognizing witchcraft ruins on the demon, Strange consults with Wanda Maximoff for help
but realizes that she is responsible for the attacks.
After acquiring the Darkhold and becoming the Scarlet Witch, Maximoff believes that
controlling Chavez's powers will allow her to reunite with Billy and Tommy, the children
she created during her time in Westview.
When Strange refuses to surrender Chavez, Maximoff attacks Khmartaj, killing many sorcerers.
Chavez accidentally transports herself and Strange to Earth 838 while Maximoff uses the
Darkhold to Dreamwalk, taking control of her Earth 838 counterpart, who lives in a suburban
life with her own Billy and Tommy.
The surviving sorceress sacrifices herself to destroy the Darkhold and break the Dreamwalk.
Enraged, Maximoff forces Wong to lead her to Mount Wondegor, a forbidden ancient ruin
to reestablish the Dreamwalk.
While searching for help, Strange and Chavez are apprehended by Earth 838's Sorcerer Supreme
Cal Carl Mordo and brought before the Illuminati a group consisting of Mordo, Peggy Carter,
Blackagar Boltagon, Maria Rambeau, Reed Richards, and Charles Xavier.
They explain that through reckless use of their universe's Darkhold in an attempt to defeat
Thanos, Earth 838's Strange triggered a universe-destroying incursion.
After defeating Thanos, the Illuminati killed their Strange to prevent him from causing
more harm.
Mordo believes that Earth 616's Strange is similarly dangerous, but Maximoff reestablishes
her Dreamwalk at Mount Wondegor and arrives in her Earth 838 counterpart's body before
they can pass judgment.
She slaughters all of the Illuminati members except Mordo, while Strange and Chavez escape
with help from the Earth 838 counterpart of Strange's ex-fiancé, Christine Palmer, a
scientist working with the Illuminati.
Strange, Chavez, and Palmer enter the space between universes to find the Book of Vashanti,
the Anti-Thesis to the Darkhold, but Maximoff appears and destroys it.
He then takes over Chavez's mind, using her powers to send the others to an incursion-destroyed
universe.
Back in Earth 616, Maximoff begins the spell to take Chavez's powers.
Strange defeats the destroyed universe's Strange, who has been corrupted by his universe's
Darkhold, and uses it to Dreamwalk in the corpse of the deceased alternate Strange that
Chavez was with earlier.
With Wong's help, Strange saves Chavez from Maximoff and encourages Chavez to use her
abilities.
She transports Maximoff to Earth 838, where she sees Billy and Tommy recoil from her in
fear while crying for their real mother.
Maximoff relents and uses her powers to bring down Mound Wondegor, destroying all copies
of the Darkhold throughout the multiverse, and apparently sacrificing herself in the
process.
I actually love that they put apparently because it's never actually said if she died or not.
I do appreciate that they did say that.
Dude, frickin, if there's no body, I don't believe it.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
That was my big thing, when I saw it, I was just like, okay, we just saw a giant ass building
fall on her, we did not see her body, she's not dead.
Yeah.
And, I mean, come on, you just got the Scarlet Witch started, why would you kill her off?
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, come on.
Yeah, and it's Elizabeth Olsen.
Never kill her off.
Chavez returns Strange and Palmer to their respective universes.
Some time later, Kamar Taj is repaired as the surviving sorcerers joined by Chavez continue
training.
Strange develops a third eye as a result of using the Darkhold and dreamwalking into a
corpse.
Yeah, that was quite a scene.
I was just like, yeah, like, this is really a horror movie, this is some scary shit.
I never jumped, but some of the stuff you saw in the scene was pretty terrifying.
In a mid-credits scene, Strange is approached by a sorceress who warns him that his actions
have triggered an incursion that he must help fix.
Strange follows her into the Dark Dimension.
Yeah, and for those of you unfamiliar, it was confirmed that that is a character known
as Clea.
Yeah, didn't like Charlize Theron confirm that like today or like the other day?
Yeah, which I still think it's a little early to be sharing spoilers, but whatever.
I mean, I agree.
I mean, hell, fricking dude, I was scrolling through TikTok and this one pissed me off.
I was scrolling through TikTok and they're just like, spoilers, Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange
2, Reed Richards introduction.
I'm like, you son of a bitch.
Is that like that's the spoiler you got?
Yeah, bro.
I know, freaking like don't even know Hawkeye is my favorite superhero, but Reed Richards,
Mr. Fantastic has always been my favorite member of the Fantastic Four, and he's definitely
up there with my other favorite superheroes.
So I was freaking hyped, but I was very, very mad that I got spoiled.
I didn't see like who was playing him.
So in the movie when because I straight up thought when they announced Reed Richards,
I'm like, OK, did they did they bring back Lone Gruffydd to play him?
But when they actually showed John Krasinski as Reed Richards, dude, my mouth freaking
dropped.
Oh my God, they actually did it.
I know I was in awe.
I'm like, this is awesome.
Like I love the cast voice of Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic.
It was a great choice.
It is an amazing choice.
Don't get me started with the suit.
Oh, so good.
Personally would have gone for white, like instead of the black.
OK, fair.
But other than that, like it was a freaking amazing suit, which we'll get into.
Yeah.
But he did.
Did he have white on the sides of his hair?
I want to say yes.
OK, I can tell.
I think they were just like they were very subtle.
It was more like a silver than white.
I mean, he's definitely more of a very younger Reed Richards.
Yeah.
So hopefully those get a little bit more like those stand out a bit more down the line.
Yeah.
Because I also believe it was confirmed that he will be portraying Reed Richards down the
line.
Yes.
Yeah.
So this wasn't just like a one off thing.
That makes me so happy.
Yeah.
So just getting straight into the story, dude.
This I know like there's like so many people like that I talked to, like there's one lady
at work who like who hated this movie.
And I have no like I tried talking to her about it.
She could not give me like a good reason why she didn't like this movie.
Oh, it's like I'm like, OK, if you just don't like this movie, like, fine, whatever.
But if she was making the claim like, oh, this is the worst MCU movie like ever.
And I'm like, even worse than Thor, the dark world.
I was just about to say that.
I'm like, you remember that one, right?
Yeah.
And I'm like, or the Incredible Hulk.
Like, I feel that movie sometimes gets too much hate.
That's just me.
And that's a Hulk fan like, are you?
Yeah, I feel it's different for you.
Which is understandable.
Yeah.
So I was just like, really compared to those.
And she's just like, oh, yeah, like, I like those ones way more.
And I'm like, I someone like Thor, the dark world.
Yeah, I really want to know.
I mean, Thor, the Thor, the dark world is a bad MCU movie, which is still better than
other movies.
It's just boring as shit.
It is.
It's it.
Yeah.
But I was just like, I will not be taking any movie recommendations from you.
Like ever.
But she was just like, oh, it just it didn't have like a happy ending.
And she's like, it's just like, it didn't have a lot of action.
It like was it was just very dark.
And I'm like, yeah, this is Marvel's dive into horror.
Yeah.
And this killed it.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Did they kill it, dude?
Dude, frickin no, no action.
My ass.
Yeah.
Did she see one Wong in strange were fighting that octopus?
Frickin Wong was just going frickin ham on that thing.
No joke.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
When they frickin rip the eye out, I wanted to throw up.
Yes.
Seriously.
I'm like, yeah, that was a little much.
Yeah.
That was insane.
And like, just like so much like there were so many horror themes throughout this.
It was just crazy intense.
And I was trying to explain to her, I'm like, Marvel movies, they like at least lately,
they've very seldomly ever ended with like a happy ending.
They they use they'll end on they'll end on a light note.
But the ending is not particularly happy.
Yeah.
Like at least with like phase four, because like Black Widow like ends with you saying
Natasha's grave.
Yeah.
No Way Home like basically ends with everyone forgetting who the hell Peter Parker is.
That's OK.
Actually, no, I'm sorry.
The thing that's that thank you for jogging my memory.
That's what my problem was.
OK.
So when String casted that spell, everyone forgot that Peter Parker was Spider-Man or
who Peter Parker was.
Didn't count Strange and Wong.
Yes.
So then when they're at the I mean, I don't know how long this takes place after No Way
Home, but when they're like talking to America Chavez about, you know, Spider-Man, you know,
you know, you know about him, you know, being able to shoot webs and everything.
I'm like, OK, wait, hold the phone.
I thought you basically made Spider-Man non-existent.
No, they made people forget that Spider-Man is Peter Parker or basically made people forget
that Peter Parker ever existed.
OK.
So they like you remember at the end when when Peter is at Aunt May's grave and Happy
comes?
Yes.
And like he says, oh, I knew her through Spider-Man and Happy was like, oh, yeah, me too.
Like they know who Spider-Man is.
They know that he's helped the Avengers, but they just don't know who he is.
OK.
I don't know why that didn't click in my head.
OK.
I take that all back.
Yeah.
So it's like.
I said that I'm like, OK, wait, hold the phone.
Yeah, I love that.
Shit, what was what was my point with that?
I'm sorry if I cut you off.
No, you're good.
I just I forgot where I was going.
I'm sorry.
Balls.
I completely spaced it.
Anyway.
Like, I freaking loved all of this stuff that they they attempted to do with this, like
all the horror and do when they like I kind of had the feeling that Wanda was going to
end up being the bad guy.
Well, because actually, apparently, because I was looking for that Wikipedia page, apparently
because I don't know if you knew this script actually went through like a lot of rewrites
recently.
Like, that's why, you know, it got pushed back so much because like the first showing
that they show to audiences, like they hated it.
So they actually had to change a lot.
But the reason why Wanda became I don't think it was originally planned for that.
But after Sam Raimi saw WandaVision, he's just like, yeah, Wanda is going to be my villain
now.
I respect that.
I do so much.
That was another problem that my coworker had a problem with.
She was saying like, I don't understand why they didn't have like a normal villain.
Like why does it have to be hero versus hero?
And like, because that's way more interesting.
Yeah.
I'm like, that is so much more interesting than, oh, someone's doing bad.
Let's go defeat them.
Like, no, like now people are challenging the like what happens when a when a hero goes
bad?
Like that is such a more interesting story than like a criminal getting superpowers or
whatever the hell.
Like it's so and then like it's just her motivations to like she wants to get to a universe like
her intentions seem pure.
Like when you when you kind of write them down, it's just kind of how she's going about
it.
Yeah.
And then I do feel in my heart that this movie may have suffered from because of those who
had not seen WandaVision.
I agree.
Oh yeah.
If you if you haven't seen WandaVision, oh my God, I feel bad because yeah, you're probably
like frickin lost and you don't understand the why she loves her children so much.
I mean, you know, she's a mother, of course, but everything that woman went through in
that show is completely understandable.
Yeah.
Like, we can't be mad.
Yeah, I can't be mad at her actions or at least not that much.
Dude, I was like I was on her team like when she was like at least for like the first little
bit like when they pulled that like reveal where where Dr. Strange was like, hey, we
have this girl and then she said America's name.
And I was just like, wait, he didn't say her name.
And then like she like and then Dr. Strange pulled that too.
He's like, hey, she's like, I didn't say her name, did I?
And I'm like, no, she said she says she's like, you didn't say her name, did you?
Yeah, I didn't.
Dude, I like I audibly gasped to the words like the I came again.
My head is that audio that's just like, oh, I have to.
That's the first thing that came to my head.
I know.
And then when she made the the Apple Grove disappear, holy shit.
Yeah, I was like, oh, shit.
Dude, the part where I was just like, oh, my God, Wanda is like freaking terrifying was
when she's approached by the Illuminati and Mr. Fantastic is trying to calm her down.
And she's just like, do you?
And he's just like, you know, I have kids, I understand.
And she's just like, is their mom still alive?
And he's just like, yes.
She's like, OK, good.
Then I won't.
Then there will still be someone to take care of them.
And it just just basically turns them into grated cheese.
And it's oh, my God, it's.
Oh, dude, that was hard to watch.
I flipped out.
That was so freaking scary.
Yeah.
Then freaking what she did to a black bull.
Oh, my God.
Dude, that made me want to vomit.
Yeah.
Freaking.
Yeah.
Both of their heads explode.
Yeah, that was.
Freaking I feel nothing against Monica Rambeau's Captain Marvel.
But I feel she kind of like got like the least cool death.
Was that out of the.
Her.
I thought it was.
I thought.
Or was the.
Maybe it was a Monica Rambeau.
Oh, sorry.
It was Maria Rambeau.
I'm sorry.
It was Maria.
Yeah.
That's what it says.
Hold on, I need to look this up.
And it says Peggy Carter, Black Agar, Boltegon, Maria Rambeau, Reed Richards and Charles Xavier.
That's interesting.
Remind me, who was Maria?
That was.
I thought Maria was her.
Was that who was in Wandavision?
Or is that or was that Mon.
Monica.
I thought that was Monica.
I think.
Yeah, I think you're right.
So was Maria was Maria Captain Marvel's best friend?
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah, I thought I recognized the actress.
The Shawnee's more.
So Lashana Lynch was the.
Actress.
So she was.
Maria.
OK, so.
This was a variant of Captain Marvel.
Where instead of.
Yeah, instead of Carol Danvers, it was.
Maria.
OK.
That's.
Dude.
That was weird.
Did you hear what Kevin Feige like he he kind of actually like got mad at the publicity
crew for this movie.
Why?
He said that he feels that they spoiled way too much.
I would disagree.
I mean, did you see, though, like in a freaking TV spot, they were showing Captain Carter.
I saw that, but I thought that was kind of.
I don't know.
I think they shouldn't have showed any of the Illuminati.
Like I feel because they did that, that so many people were hyped for like all of the
probably crossovers that they were going to have people coming from other universes that
when they saw, oh, it's just these five, they probably felt.
I know I've heard that a lot of people were disappointed with the very few cameos that
we actually got.
Hmm.
I wasn't upset by the cameos like at all.
I thought they worked out really well.
I think they kept true to most of the Illuminati.
The only ones that I don't feel were actually in the Illuminati were Captain Carter and
Captain Marvel.
And I'm pretty sure those two were taken by.
Like those two slots are in the comics taken by Tony Stark and Namor, the Submariner.
Oh, well, that would have been a perfect moment for them to work in a Tom Cruise's Iron Man.
Absolutely not.
I was going to be so mad if we saw him.
Apparently like one of the writers or producers was like really on board for that idea.
And he was like very mad that it never got off the board or it never got off the ground.
Yeah.
So the Illuminati, like I just Googled it.
The Illuminati consists of Charles Xavier, Tony Stark, Black Bolt, Namor, Doctor Strange,
and Reed Richards.
Okay.
Cool.
So they got most of them.
Yeah.
Like the only ones that like they replaced was, I mean, obviously they replaced Mordo
with or they replaced Doctor Strange with Mordo and they replaced the Submariner with
Captain Marvel and then Tony Stark with Peggy.
Yeah.
But everyone else was there.
So I mean, good for them for sticking on.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah.
I okay.
Black Bolt was a genuine surprise for me to see.
So Anson Mount is the one that played Black Bolt.
Okay.
And he's from the Inhumans TV show.
Oh, so they brought him back.
Yeah, they brought him back.
Badass.
That's awesome.
Good for him.
Like I say what you will about the Inhumans TV show.
Their cast was killer.
I never saw an episode so I can't see your okay.
You're not missing much.
Okay, cool.
But they had a spot on cast.
The story was just absolute trash.
So the fact that they brought him back kind of gives me hope that they might reboot like
do a soft reboot of them.
Okay.
Like I genuinely hope that they do.
Because like I said, the cast was incredible.
I'm trying to see if there was anyone that like I didn't like.
In this movie or?
Or in Inhumans.
Okay.
Like other than like human characters in there, like I think everyone else did freaking like
killer.
So Serenda Swan played Medusa and she's been in some pretty decent stuff.
Yeah, like everyone did super good.
It's just the story was just garbage.
It's just complete and utter trash.
Damn.
And one of my big complaints about that show was Black Bolt only speaks once in that show,
which is fine.
I mean, obviously his power freaking destroys a bunch of shit.
Yeah.
But he was like super far away from this mountain and just and basically said the exact same
thing.
Like just said, I'm sorry, like he says, I'm sorry, brother, in like a normal tone.
And it just kind of like, like you see some sound waves come out, but then it's like a
cave collapses.
And that's it.
Oh, sure.
Okay.
So the fact that they fixed that in this and we're just like, he says, I'm sorry.
And it freaking disintegrates Dr. Strange made me so freaking happy.
Like that is like a pretty badass.
Yeah, that is the portrayal of Black Bolt that I've been freaking one because I love
Black Bolt.
Like I love the love story between him and Medusa.
Like it's so good, so freaking good.
But yeah, so seeing him back like was the biggest shock to me.
And I loved it.
I did not care for how he died because I was disgusting.
I feel all of them were like, really f'd up like, like, geez, Wanda.
Yeah, like, dude, the freaking memes I'm seeing now is just like in just in case anyone doubts
that Wanda was the strongest Avenger.
Dude, seriously.
She literally turned Mr. Fantastic into spaghetti.
Yeah, turn him into spaghetti turn Black Bolt into a frickin doll with a crushed head.
Yep.
Like basically turned his brain into soup.
Slice Captain Carter in half.
Yeah, and then frickin made a pancake of Captain Marvel.
I will say it frickin when Wanda asked Captain Carter, she's like, oh, don't.
Then she say like, oh, don't you ever give up or some shit like that.
And she says, oh, I can do this all day.
I'm like, yeah, I love that.
I appreciate you guys threw that in.
Yeah, yeah, you can.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, that definitely got a smile out of me.
Yeah, I do have to mention DJ wanted it to be known.
I need to find its exact words that he thought the Illuminati scene was unearned and had
too much fan service.
I can see where he's coming from.
I will.
I do wish that it was a lot longer of a scene because I feel like literally we're introduced
to them and then literally 30 seconds later, they die.
Yes, I do feel it was slightly rushed.
But unearned is is strong for me.
I agree.
I wouldn't I wouldn't say that.
I think that they were just trying to portray how big of a threat Wanda posed and just the
fact that they were just like, we can handle your little witch.
Yeah, just like honestly, the way that I look at it, it's like it's a completely different
earth.
So I feel if they have like a completely different team, I mean, I know they're not the Avengers,
but if it's like a brand new team that we're just barely being introduced to and then they
die, I mean, of course, I mean, to us, they're going to feel unearned.
But that's just because, you know, this it's it's a different earth than what we're used
to.
It's brand new to us.
Right.
But I agree with you.
I get where DJ is DJ is coming from.
But I would agree with you.
I don't agree with the it feels on the end part.
Yeah, it like no offense, DJ.
I love you, man.
Yeah, it was it was great.
It was like.
I think they were in it enough for it, like because if it would have been like much longer,
I think that would have made it feel more like fan service.
Fair enough.
Like, oh, we're just going to get like little scenes with these characters.
It's just the fact that they in this movie that they kind of played throwaway characters.
Yeah, just to show off Wanda's might.
Like she's terrifying.
Yeah, like, holy shit.
Like I.
Dude, I was losing my mind through that scene, that whole scene, like when she started attacking,
I'm just like, dude, you guys are screwed.
Yeah.
Like, and especially after throwing Ultron bots at her.
Yeah.
You were just asking to get ripped apart.
Yes, sir.
Oh, my gosh.
Someone was pointing out that they actually really liked that.
If in this universe or this is just kind of an assumption, but just like in this universe,
if Reed Richards were to have created the Ultron robot, that it would actually work.
Just kind of goes to show how much smarter he is than Tony Stark.
I mean, yeah, you know, fair enough.
I can't really argue with them on that one.
Yeah.
But gosh.
Dude, and freaking America Chavez.
I really liked her, like her character and what she brought to the table.
No, I absolutely agree.
I thought she was very, very good character.
And honestly, I really appreciate that Marvel kept in that LGBTQ moment with her having
two moms.
I loved that part.
I know that I forget where it was banned, but this movie is actually banned in a country
just because they said that they weren't going to remove that.
Pretty sure it was China.
Oh, shocker.
Well, you know, kudos to you, Marvel, for keeping it in.
Yeah, so good, dude.
What I really appreciated about the story, I was expecting them to travel from universe
to universe to universe to universe.
And it just to kind of get way too big of a scale.
Yeah.
But just the fact that they only spent time in two different universes, really.
Just kind of made the night and day difference.
Like, obviously, they had that whole montage where Dr. Strange and Chavez were like traveling
to different universes.
That was badass.
That was super cool.
And I can't wait to go back and rewatch and try and catch that animated universe a little
bit more.
Oh, I know, right?
The freaking paint one, too.
That was weird.
Yeah, that one was funky.
But yeah, and it's just like the subtle differences, too.
Going on red was kind of cool.
Yeah.
Or freaking when she's just like, oh, you know, in every universe, food's always free.
And then freaking, God, what's his name?
Bruce Campbell freaking starts yelling at her for stealing his pizza bites.
And she's just like, oh, shit, maybe it's not free.
Yeah.
So good.
So freaking good.
Yeah, I love seeing Bruce Campbell back in something.
That was awesome.
Made me smile.
And now, dude, if they wanted to make him like the new Stan Lee, I wouldn't be mad at
all.
I wouldn't.
Yeah, me neither.
I would welcome that with open arms, honestly.
Yeah.
Gosh, it's just everything they did.
It felt really good.
Flowed really well.
I have so few complaints about the story overall.
Yeah, honestly, so do I.
For what Sam Raimi and Marvel set out to do with this sequel, I think they really did
a good job with the story.
Yeah.
I love the...
I mean, hell.
I love...
Oh, freaking...
I don't think we covered this at all.
Professor X basically giving Doctor Strange the green light.
Like, hey, when you go to escape, freaking get out, get the hell out of here.
But then the yellow wheelchair straight out of the freaking comics.
That was awesome.
And when he was going into Wanda's mind, being in the black turtleneck and walking around,
so straight out of freaking comics.
Freaking her just coming up behind him and snapping his neck.
Dude, that was so freaking scary.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, shit.
I didn't actually scream that, but inside I did.
Dude, Wanda was so freaking terrifying.
Yeah.
Like, Sam Raimi, he made us turn emotionally on Wanda.
It was so hard.
Dude, yeah, that scene where her kids are running from her and crying for their mom
in that universe.
Oh, freaking right in the feels.
I know.
Like, it's like...
He did so good at flip-flopping, making you understand where she's coming from and then
being like, okay, maybe you're taking this too far.
Yeah.
And then you're just like, okay, maybe I do get it.
And then, nope.
I flip-flopped so much throughout this.
And then at the end when her kids are retreating from her, that broke my heart.
Yeah, that was so sad.
And then when she's just like, no, I'm freaking done with the dark hole and crushes the building
around her, I'm just like, sounds about right.
Yeah.
And just the way that she went about it too, like straight up lifting it in the air and
then just dropping it.
Like, holy shit, dude.
Also, the... I don't know about you, I loved the fact that Wong is still Sorcerer Supreme.
Oh yeah, dude.
I still love that.
I hope that doesn't change because it's a freaking hilarious joke.
It is great.
I mean, nothing against strange.
I feel Wong deserves it.
Oh, absolutely agreed.
Okay, now that I'm thinking about it real quick, my only complaint about the multiverse
that they have set up is the fact that they call the MCU universe 616.
How come?
Why don't you like that?
So 616... in the Marvel universe, Earth 616 is the main universe in Marvel Comics, right?
Yes.
I mean, you know comics a lot more than I do.
Right.
So that's like where you find... like Earth 616 Spider-Man is like the Spider-Man.
So just the OG Peter Parker Spider-Man?
Not necessarily the OG, it's just like the most Spider-Man Spider-Man.
Okay, okay.
Like they have an ultimate Spider-Man universe, they have a superior Spider-Man universe,
like they have a bunch of different shit.
But 616 is like the main storyline.
My problem with them saying or claiming that the MCU is Earth 616 is just that it's also
kind of quite not as definitive.
They have a bunch of variations from the Earth 616 or the comic book 616.
Like for one, the big one is like Hulk, Hulk isn't such a freaking bitch in Earth 616.
Why am I not surprised that you would bring that up?
So in my mind, I feel like they should have kept Earth 616 the comic universe and maybe
listed the MCU as a completely different universe.
Okay.
Like I would have liked for them to bring up 616.
Yeah.
But like maybe say that America Chavez is from Earth 616, since there's technically only
like one of her in the entire universe or multiverse.
Okay, that's fair.
Yeah, so I would have preferred for them to be like, oh, she's from Earth 616, you're
from Earth, whatever.
But it's just 616 is has always been for me a comic universe.
And they've it's cool because like within the Spider-Verse crossover stories, they've
had storylines where they've pulled Spider-Man from like the 90s TV show.
They had a Spider-Man that they pull or they had the Drake Bell Ultimate Spider-Man pulled
into it.
And it was super funny like watching him in the background.
Like, you know, like, did you watch that show?
Not.
Oh, okay.
Never mind then.
He just kind of had this like Emperor's New Groove talking to the audience sort of situation.
And yeah, so he would like do that in the comics and all the other Spider-Man like noticed.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
So it was just kind of funny.
But they've pulled Spider-Man from different universes into these like crossover Spider-Verse
events.
And so it's just like, okay, so just the fact that the visual, like the TV shows are part
of a different universe outside of 616, I'm like, I feel like the movie should have been
too.
That's fair.
But I mean, that's just a really minor complaint.
But yeah, 616 is where you find like everyone.
It's where you find the Fantastic Four.
It's where you find the X-Men.
It's where you find the Avengers and all that, which I know that they just haven't gone around
to introducing the X-Men yet, but it's just like, how are you going to pull that off?
That is fair.
That's a very good point.
Did you catch what...
Shit, did you catch what the what Dr. Strange said to Mr. Fantastic by chance?
I missed it.
I don't know if I did.
I remember him saying something like, I forget what Reed Richards says, but he's just like,
yeah, no shit or something like that.
Yeah, like it's kind of when he first comes into the world and he's talking about Reed
Richards and he's just like, or like of the Fantastic Four and he's like the Fantastic
Four and then like makes a comment.
And I didn't catch what that comment was.
Yeah, I don't think I did either.
Damn, sometimes I need freaking subtitles in my movies.
But yeah, it just kind of felt like Dr. Strange didn't know who the Fantastic Four were unless
like that comment that we missed was sometimes like, or was something that we're just unaware
of.
So it's like, maybe the Fantastic Four do exist in that universe and they just don't have
powers yet or or what?
Like, yeah, dude, I have no idea.
Yeah, I just want them to address that because the Earth 616 has everyone.
So that's like my that was just my big problem.
It's just that the fact that they haven't addressed all these other heroes.
That that's fair.
I guess they're still in front of the top.
Yeah.
Other than that, really enjoyed the story.
I felt like it was very fast paced, but in a good way.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
I mean, honestly, I was never bored.
I wasn't either.
I think maybe the Bruce Campbell thing went on a bit long.
Yeah, you know what?
Fair enough.
I mean, other than that, like I felt it flowed pretty well.
And the story was really interesting.
Just Dr. Strange trying to protect America Chavez from Wanda, who is trying to use her
power to travel to a multiverse where she can have her family.
Yeah.
And then like, they kind of addressed want like with Wong, like what if they get sick
with something and that universe I'm in doesn't have the solution like I can literally travel
to any universe where they have a fix for everything.
I'm like, that's an excellent point.
Yeah, that's true.
Because I mean, like I flip flop really hard with that, like with with Wong just being
like, why don't you just have her send you to that universe?
And she's like, well, what if my boys get sick?
And I'm like, ooh, didn't think about that.
So really love that.
I love that they he did a really good job of keeping Wanda like relatable for so long.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
So I'm actually pretty high with the with my story.
I think I'm going to be at like a 93.
Just because I loved it so much.
I definitely say I'm not as high as you, but I am still high.
So I'm going to go an 88.
I mean, that's pretty good still.
All right.
So our average score or collected score for stories come to a 90.5.
Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
Moving on over to writing.
There wasn't a whole lot of wasted dialogue here.
I don't feel there wasn't.
I know a lot of people said from what I've heard from other critics that a lot of the
for them, a lot of the not every joke landed.
I'll give them that.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't think of like a specific joke that was just a God.
That was not funny at all.
Yeah, I think the only one that maybe stands out to me where it was just like not super
funny was the Bruce Campbell joke.
That's yeah, that's because like you said, it went on for a little too long.
Oh, credit scene with him shouting, it's finally over.
That was pretty funny.
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I think what what ruined that joke, it was just how long the dialogue was like.
It was just like right after America, Travis was saying like, oh, yeah, in most universes,
you don't have to pay for food.
And then she's walking past and then he grabs her and he's like, hey, you didn't pay for
that.
And he's she's just like, oh, shit.
And that was funny.
And then it's just like, hey, or in the Doctor Strange gets in the way.
He's like, hey, she's just a kid.
And he's just like, whoa, we got some sort of Doctor Strange looking dude here.
Like where'd you get that from?
From the doctor, like just kind of going off.
Like it was almost like he was riffing and it just didn't work.
Yeah, it was definitely weird.
Yeah.
And the rest of that or the rest of it, though, one of my favorite scenes of just the dialogue
was when she was attacking or when Wanda was attacking the what's it called?
That's gonna bug me, Camar-Tage.
Yeah, when she was attacking Camar-Tage and she kind of was blasting the force field and
just kind of getting in in everyone's head or looking for someone's mind to corrupt.
Yeah.
And just it was just the maybe it was Benedict Wong that sold it for me or it was just Wong's
character the way that he was like kind of going around and just jumping around to everyone
and being like fortify your mind.
And just like the intensity behind that, like the way that he said that was just so, so
powerful and just how it didn't work.
Yeah.
It was just just crazy.
Just a crazy like for like I don't know why it like it was just it was such a small part,
but it just stood out so strongly to me.
When when she's just flying around and everything, it's just it was scary.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, absolutely.
Another thing that I almost forgot is when Doctor Strange was like trapped her in the
mirror dimension.
Oh, yeah.
And she started going through the reflections.
Yeah.
And then freaking like it came crawling out like she was the freaking grudge.
Yeah, that was holy shit.
That was so freaking scary.
That was like that was absolutely terrifying.
Gosh, that was crazy.
Nothing like stood like dialogue wise, other than the shit with with Bruce Campbell.
Nothing really stood out as like out of place.
It was just it was really well written.
Yeah, I would agree.
No character said anything to where you're just like, no, they would never say anything
like that.
Yeah, I think maybe the only thing that I didn't always care for just kind of looking
back is when they were in the earth was eight, three, eight or whatever, whatever earth they
were at.
And they had that that memory thing.
Oh, yeah.
It felt weird.
It felt weird for Doctor Strange to kind of sit there and like watch because I felt like
they established the regret and the feelings of love that Doctor Strange had for Christine.
I agree.
Can we also talk about how they didn't even pay for to see their memories?
Yeah, right.
Shouldn't that be a pay then show?
Shouldn't it shouldn't be a show then pay?
Yeah, you would think.
But yeah, it's just like the just the fact that they sat there and watched it and then
America did the exact same thing immediately after.
Yeah.
And it's just like that felt like something that they could have they could have extracted
from somewhere else.
Like what I was kind of the way that I personally would have done that is maybe Doctor Strange
trying to gather information from her.
OK.
And being like you're not telling me everything.
And then like basically doing some sort of spell to figure out where she came from or
the origin of her powers or whatever the hell you want to call it.
And so I would have like would have rather had him do that and then maybe have like a
magical side effect of that is have her kind of experience what he experienced with Christine.
Oh, yeah.
So it was more like kind of like a memory swap.
Yeah, more or less.
I just would have preferred that rather than the kind of the awkward stand there and watch
her memory thing.
Yeah, that's fair.
But besides that, I really like the dream hopping thing that they did.
That was cool.
I felt like that was super interesting.
I didn't know how like this is so what I thought was going to happen because I completely forgot
that the zombie strange was supposed to be in this.
Dude, I did too.
So I thought he was going to dream hop to a different universe and have that Doctor
Strange travel to to his universe to like to fight Scarlet Witch.
But then I was just like, well, that doesn't make sense.
And when as soon as he said like who said they had to be living like I was like, oh,
oh, shit.
So I freaking love that.
All right, were there any other writing things that stood out to you or not?
I can really think of.
I feel everything was pretty solid.
Right.
Hmm.
Honestly, the only thing that I can think of, like, just now kind of thinking about
it a bit more was maybe the.
Oh, shit.
The Book of Ashanti.
That kind of seemed like it was supposed to be a lot bigger of a thing than it ended up
being.
That is fair.
That is a very good point.
Yeah.
Well, it's like they were constantly on the hunt for this book, ended up getting to to
the earth where they found it, which I thought like that was a pretty decent bit between
Dr. Strange and that Earth's Christine.
How he was able to unlock the door, like using her watch and everything.
That was cool.
Yeah, it's just kind of like a really sweet moment.
Oh, yeah, it was.
Yeah, but it's just like that book just ended up getting exploded.
Right.
Yeah.
So it was just kind of hard for like, like once it got to that, it was just kind of like,
really?
And it kind of felt to me like.
Do you ever see Kung Fu Panda?
Years ago.
And honestly, I barely remember any of it.
And I haven't seen the second or third.
OK, well, it's just the first in the first one.
There's this thing called the Dragon Scroll.
And the only person allowed to read it is the Dragon Warrior.
And when he opens it up, it's just like reflective paper.
And so he just it's like it's completely blank, except for this reflective paper.
And then he realizes, oh, the power's been inside me all along.
It's just kind of like that's what felt what happened with America Chavez.
It's like.
We'll get this.
We'll get this book, figure out how to use or I'll help you to learn how to use your
abilities.
Oops.
The books useless to us, but you've known how to use your abilities all along.
And I'm like, hey, come on.
Yeah.
Plot convenience.
What's that?
Yeah.
So it just kind of made me feel like a little like, hey, I'm not digging that.
Yeah.
I think that's fair.
I can agree with that.
Um.
Hmm.
That's it.
I think everything else is pretty rock solid.
I would agree.
Absolutely.
Where are you at with with writing?
I might be like a tad lower than my story score, so I'm going to go like an 87.
Yeah, I was a little lower than mine, too.
Um.
Not quite in the 80s yet.
I think I'm like just a solid 90.
Okay.
Like, I feel like that book of Vashanti was just such a minor thing for me in the grand
scheme of it all.
Yeah.
Um.
Especially for how well written everything else was.
I feel like the dialogue with the Illuminati was pretty good.
Um.
That's kind of the way that Strange was able to kind of manipulate Mordo.
Um.
Until like attacking him and ultimately like freeing him.
I thought that was pretty funny.
That was.
Um.
It does make me wonder though, like what the hell's happened to the actual Mordo?
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, because Doctor Strange like references him when he's just like, oh, who's this dude?
And he's just like, oh, this dude's dedicated his life to like trying to kill me.
And I'm like, cool, where's that?
Yeah, why aren't we getting that storyline?
Yeah, no, like I don't know what I would have wanted with like the opening battle because
it all just kind of really tied into Wanda.
True.
Like ultimately, like the big like octopus looking eyeball monster tied into Wanda.
So it's kind of hard for me to feel like, oh, replace that to with a fight with Mordo
because I feel like that would have really like solidified how weird it would have been.
Because like if you think about it, the last time that we saw Mordo in canon was in Doctor
Strange after they were teaming up to fight Dormammu.
And then he went or then Mordo went on his own way to basically get rid of all sorcerers
or all magic.
Yeah.
So that like, technically, the last time that we saw them together, they were they weren't
on like great terms, but they were in like mutual respect terms.
That is a good point.
And so just like the feeling that it's like, oh, he's dedicated his life to killing me
felt a little.
Yeah, a little bit just because I'm like, well, technically, you guys had a mutual respect,
like a mutual parting of ways.
And like you understood what his goal was, but it's just like we haven't seen anything
up till this point for us to believe that you guys are on like bad terms.
Yeah, it's true.
So I mean, I would have liked to see something where it's like, hey, like a little bit like
a mini fight.
Like I don't know.
Just something just to kind of solidify that that beef between the two of them.
Yeah, no, that's fair.
And then just kind of make it feel even more weird when we see him be friendly from that
other earth.
Yeah.
All right.
So that averages our writing score to an 88.5.
Moving on over to acting.
Let me pull up the cast list really fast.
I just had it up.
All right.
First up, we have Benedict Cumberbatch, who played Dr. Stephen Strange.
We have Elizabeth Olsen, who played Wanda Maximoff, otherwise known as the Scarlet Witch.
We have Benedict Wong, who played Wong.
I don't know how to say her name.
Zo-sh-n-zo-t.
Bloody hell, I'm freaking Googling that shit.
How do you say that?
Zo-sheel?
Or Zo-sheel?
Okay.
That sounds right.
Yeah.
So, Zo-sheel Gomez, who played America Chavez.
And then I'll throw her in for shits and gables.
Rachel McAdams, who played Dr. Christine Palmer.
I love it.
Yeah.
So, those are the main ones.
We did have the Illuminati in here.
So, I'll bring them up real quick, but I don't think they're going to tie in too much to
our acting score, just because they didn't play too big of a role.
That's what you think.
I'm kidding.
I'm talking about the cast.
Yeah.
We have Shawna Lynch, who played Captain Marvel.
We have Haley Atwell, who played Captain Carter.
We have John Krasinski, who played Reed Richards.
Anson Mount, who played Black Bolt.
Patrick Stewart, who played Professor Charles Xavier.
And then did I bring up Baron Mordo?
I don't think you did.
And then we have…
I don't know how the hell you pronounce his name.
One second.
Ch'w'atel a geofor?
That sounds right.
I know his name is hard to say.
Ch'w'atel.
Ch'w'atel a geofor.
Okay.
I had to Google pronunciation with that one.
Ch'w'atel a geofor, who played Baron Mordo.
And he was the final member of the Illuminati.
Kind of taking that universe's Stephen Strange's place.
Anyway.
I got to know what top three actors…
I have a feeling that our top three is either going to be exactly the same or wildly different.
So number three I would give to Benedict Wong.
That was Wong.
He was fantastic.
I always loved him in this movie.
Number two I would give to Benedict Cumberbatch, who played Doctor Strange.
Once again, amazing.
God I count my blessings every day that he was cast as Doctor Strange and not the…
I know one of the people that was in the running was Joaquin Phoenix.
Nothing against Phoenix, but Cumberbatch was born to play Stephen Strange.
He was once again amazing.
I can't get enough of him.
He's just so great.
But I'm sorry to say, Elizabeth Olsen, she topped his performance and so I would give
her number one for her performances.
Wana Maximoff slash The Scarlet Witch.
Damn.
Shit dude.
So I'm giving my number three to… shit I forgot how to say her name already.
I'm just going to say America Chavez.
Yeah.
Don't strain yourself buddy.
Yeah.
I'm giving my number three.
I felt that her acting got better as the movie went on.
That is fair.
I did feel like there was a bit of a slow start for me actually enjoying her performance.
But she eventually got to that place where she kind of hit her stride it felt.
And then she began to really stand out.
So yeah, for her I'm giving my number three.
Then my number two I'm giving to Doctor Strange.
Kind of barely.
Like I almost would have given this to Wong.
But I think Steven just stood out a little bit more.
Unlike the first Doctor Strange I feel like we did get some real movement in his character.
Like he definitely has that like, oh I'm kind of like the best superhero in the world
kind of like ego to him.
That's true he does.
But it's almost like he has some sort of humility around it.
Which in the first movie he just absolutely did not.
Yeah.
So it feels like the fight with Thanos humbled him a little bit more than the first movie
did.
Which is nice to see.
And so just seeing him in that humbled state and just kind of in a state of defeat in some
aspects was kind of refreshing.
So I really applaud Cumberbatch for pulling that off.
And then absolutely agreeing with you Elizabeth Olsen is just a master of her craft.
Yes she is.
She was relatable in some aspects.
She was, we felt very sympathetic for her and others.
But then she just pulled off like just broken so well.
Like seeing her just kind of on her own and just kind of dealing with her own inner demons.
You can absolutely see where she's coming from.
And just seeing how haunted she is by everything just made her stand out so freaking much.
And it was so interesting for me.
Like jumping back and forth between like Doctor Strange's story and then Wanda's story that
was happening.
Even though you can definitely make that argument that Wanda's was the B story.
And for me it honestly felt more like the A story.
You know I would agree.
Because like anytime Doctor Strange was doing his thing and like seeing another universe
like awesome, super cool.
But like anytime we jumped to Doctor Strange immediately after Wanda I was just like no
go back to Wanda.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Yeah so oh my gosh.
Dude and it's freaking crazy like how amazing she is.
Because like I've gone back and watched some shit that her sisters have acted in.
Her sisters can't act for Jack.
No I'm sorry the only good acting that they had was on Full House.
And even that wasn't like particularly good.
Damn.
It wasn't.
I mean if you freaking compare that shit to Elizabeth Olsen now.
Holy balls.
Oh yeah but they were little kids.
Yeah.
No excuse.
What?
How is that not an excuse?
A child versus a fully grown adult?
Oh man.
You just really don't like Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen do you?
Dude I just I mean maybe that might be part of it but she is an amazing actress.
Oh hands down absolutely.
Like there's so few things that I've seen her in where I didn't like her.
And I've seen her in quite a bit.
I've only seen her as far as I remember in Godzilla and then her as Scarlet Witch in
the MCU movies as far as I know those are the only movies that I've seen her in.
You said Ingrid Goes West?
No I've never seen that.
What was the other movie you said besides Godzilla?
No I said Godzilla and then all of her MCU portrayals of Wanda Maxx.
So I saw her in Godzilla and I mean she was just kind of a minor role in that.
I mean she still did a good job.
But then I also saw her in I Saw the Light which was really good.
So it's a story based off of Hank Williams.
Who's that?
Oh my gosh you're killing me Rose.
I'm going to feel stupid when you tell me who that is.
It's a country singer from like yeah.
You know what I should honestly know considering hanging out with you over the years growing
up I kind of had to like country.
You kind of forced not forced but.
You didn't have to.
Well that was literally all that we listened to when we were either driving in your car
or you turned on music somewhere.
Okay you know the dude who's different.
You know the guy who sings your cheating heart.
I don't even know if I know that song.
Are you shitting me?
I'm sorry.
Okay um.
Shit okay do you know the kid who freaking yodels in Walmart?
Oh yeah Mason Ramsey.
You have no idea how infuriated I am that you know his name.
I only know I only remember his name just because he's actually a pretty funny not funny
but he's found a following on TikTok and I've just come across a lot of his videos.
You piss me off sometimes.
Don't give me that sigh.
You piss me off sometimes.
Feelings mutual bitch.
Anyway the song that he was singing in that famous video that kind of just went viral
the one that blew him up.
Yeah.
Um that was a song made famous by Hank Williams.
Oh okay.
And so.
Good to know.
Elizabeth Olsen played his wife.
Oh okay that makes more sense.
I'm surprised you haven't heard about that movie because it's Tom Hiddleston is the one
that played Hank Williams.
Yeah yeah this is the first time I've ever I'm ever hearing of this movie.
It's crazy.
Anyway yeah she is like the standout performance from this movie.
Agreed.
Like this could easily be called the WandaVision movie and I wouldn't be upset about it at
all.
Yeah but Vision's not in it so can it be really called WandaVision?
No I guess you're right.
I guess it could be called Scarlet Witch in the Multiverse of Madness.
Featuring Doctor Strange.
That's a long ass title.
Yeah that'd be a really long ass title.
Anyway.
So what are you thinking with an acting score?
I hardly had any problems with the acting.
I feel the only person that I had problems with was like you brought up America Chavez.
But I definitely agree with you.
Her acting did get better as the movie went on.
So I'm gonna go solid 90 for acting.
Not as an O.
I'm actually gonna go one point higher than you.
I was actually thinking I was somewhere in like the 92, 93 range but I think yeah I think
with the America Chavez performance it did just bring it down a little bit.
And it didn't pull it down for very long obviously.
It still scored in the 90s.
But I think if her performance would have stayed as at the same level as it was at the
beginning it would have brought it down a lot more for me.
But like I said once she kind of got into her groove she freaking killed it.
Oh yeah.
I absolutely agree.
I think maybe the only scene that I was just like okay like who the hell does this chick
think she is was when they were getting pizza.
Like her, Wong, and Strange.
Yeah.
That's fair.
Other than that I think the only other time that I may have had an issue was when she
was just so antsy and trusting Dr. Strange.
Yeah it's like come on it's a completely different Steven.
So calm yourself girl.
Yeah.
So other than that like we said super solid performances.
But our acting score has averaged us out to a 90.5.
Alright next up we got character development which I think we both are thinking Dr. Strange.
Yes.
In some ways you could do Wanda but it might be a little hard.
That one would be tough.
Yeah.
Because with Wanda it's just like she's after the same thing the entire movie and then doesn't
and she's still ultimately after it at the end.
It's just she decides like okay whatever like this like deucing out of this world and crushes
herself.
Supposedly.
Like keyword there.
But yeah getting into Dr. Strange.
So his Earth's Christine Palmer is getting married.
She invites Dr. Strange to her wedding which is kind of an odd thing given their romantic
history but I mean whatever you do you.
And she starts getting into how basically how they wouldn't have ultimately worked out.
Yeah because doesn't she say like he's the one that always has to be holding the knife
or something like that.
Yeah and by the end he's he basically like tries to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Like with like you kind of you see it how it could have ended for him with the defender
Dr. Strange at the beginning where he's just like okay I am not able to save America from
this danger so I am going to have to steal her power.
And then obviously it doesn't work out for him and he ends up dying.
And this like our Dr. Strange was put into a very similar situation.
Like almost where it was it almost got to the point where it was his only choice was
to steal her power.
Even Wong who is very like not anti killing kids was like you need to bushwhack this kid
like now.
Yeah.
So seeing our Dr. Strange make the choice to basically push America to controlling her
abilities and giving Wanda the opportunity to more or less just put a stop to everything
that she's doing really accentuates that he's different from the other Stephen Stranges
in the other universes.
Oh yeah absolutely.
I mean because in both of the other universes like it just kind of shows how big of an asshole
he is.
Yeah dude straight up.
But yeah like I really liked his arc and how he was just kind of able to learn from other
instances of himself and how other people view him.
And because he's constantly put in front of a mirror I feel.
Yeah I would agree with that.
Like Wanda puts him in front of the mirror when she starts talking about like what makes
him a hero versus what makes her not a hero.
And saying like well that doesn't seem fair and then the Illuminati pointing out just
like how big of a threat he is to the multiverse.
Which kind of did not sit right with me because they only seem to have the interaction with
that one Doctor Strange.
Yeah so like why are you going to assume that every single Doctor Strange from every universe
is the same.
Yeah like I forget if like the multiverse was confirmed in that.
Oh it was because Christine Palmer like had done research and work.
Yes.
Okay so I get that.
But like what I want to know what ultimately led the Illuminati to believing that Doctor
Strange was the biggest threat to the multiverse.
Yeah I agree.
Because like the only way that I feel like they could have come to that conclusion is
like oh here are two universes colliding or what do they call it when the universe collides.
When the universe is like coming together.
Oh dude I forgot.
I'm going to look that up real quick.
Just so I have the wording right.
An incursion.
Yep that's what it was.
Yeah so the only like okay so backtracking.
The only way that I feel the Illuminati could have known that Doctor Strange was the biggest
danger to the multiverse is if they were able to observe the different incursions and find
that on each of those incursions Doctor Strange was the only living person.
Yeah true.
Which kind of makes sense with like how when he did get banished to that universe with
the that incursion.
Yeah.
So I mean like that's the only way that it would have made sense to me.
So I mean we'll see if that ever gets explained.
I'm probably not going to be too upset if it doesn't.
You're not going to be sweat.
No probably not.
So it's just I think seeing how he's viewed and everything from the outside of his universe
where within his universe he's viewed as like a great hero and it just kind of doesn't serve
his ego super well.
And so just kind of seeing like everyone on the outside being like okay dude you're a
freaking dickhead and just kind of taking it to heart and realizing like hey I can be
better.
And like ultimately he does with like the decisions that he makes when it comes to America
and Wanda.
I do I did really like the part where with oh my god what's the universe that the Illuminati
is in or what Earth is that again?
838.
I love with that Earth's Christine he finally got to like truly say like you know I understand
why we couldn't I understand now why we couldn't work out but just know that you know I never
stopped loving you and I never will.
Yeah it was kind of nice for him to get that closure.
Yeah that was a very sweet moment.
I loved that.
Yeah and I feel like she totally dude I almost was convinced that she was going to travel
to his Earth.
Dude I thought the same thing I'm like how the hell is this gonna work?
Yeah like that's gonna get real funky.
Yeah but no they yeah.
But I'm happy with how they how they pulled it off.
I am too.
And yeah so I like I think he had a lot of growth way more than he did in the first one.
Dude I feel dumb for like not watching the first one before I saw this one because I
haven't seen the first Doctor Strange in years.
Yeah I haven't seen it in a while either.
Like honestly remember when we did the where you watch every single MCU movie leading up
to wasn't it was it either Infinity War or Endgame?
Endgame.
That was the last time that I watched Doctor Strange.
It's been that long.
Yeah I mean it is what it is.
It's true.
Like so the last time I watched it was maybe a year ago.
Okay.
But I mean it was it was good.
It was good.
It was really good.
It like the story was really good.
It's just he didn't have any character development like by the end of the movie he was still
an asshole.
True.
It's very true.
But in this I feel like he he had a lot more growth than yes we've previously seen him
have.
Yeah I would definitely agree with that.
So damn like this one's tough just because even though it was a lot more and I am very
tempted to put it in the 90s I don't feel like it was it was a very dramatic shift of
character.
Yeah that's fair.
So I think I'm more in like the 88 range.
You know what I'll match you on that one.
Alright well that averages us out to a an 88 for character development.
Hell yeah.
Moving on over to effects.
Holy shi-hit.
Oh my god these were so good.
Like wow.
Yeah fricking spoiler alert I'm in the high 90s.
Yeah same I would absolutely agree with that.
There was like not a single effect in this that didn't look great.
There's only one effect that freaked me out and that's just because like that kind of
shit just freaks me out is the whole extra eye on his forehead.
That shit just freaked me out.
It looked fine it looked good but I don't think they pull that off super well.
Yeah yeah it's just like I don't know the way that it opens I feel like it should like
I it's a weird it's a weird concept.
It's definitely a weird concept but it's just like the the shadow that you get on a normal
eyeball I don't think should be on the third eye.
I can agree with that and honestly now that I'm thinking about it I don't know how I feel
about Dr. Strange now going forward in the MCU.
I don't really like the fact that a third eye is just gonna pop up every now and then.
Yeah it's a little odd.
Like I think that was my biggest complaint with the the effect in general.
It's just like okay now it just feels like a third eye that's always there.
Like for one that like it just kind of just feels odd.
It's like like you kind of know how the eye or our eyes are just kind of like sunken into
our head a little bit.
It's like seeing the one on on his forehead that kind of has that same effect where it's
like sunken in.
It's just awkward like I feel like it would just feel better if it was just like an eye
that was just flush with his forehead and didn't really have any shadow to it.
Yeah I feel that would be a lot better.
Yeah like I think that was that that was my biggest complaint but that is just such a
minor complaint.
And especially considering that that doesn't really come into effect until you're like
75% through the movie.
Yeah and even then it's only for like a couple seconds at a time.
Like what you get you see it with the the incursion Doctor Strange for like a minute.
Maybe and then when you're in the post credit scene and that's like that's it.
So it's not like a big deal.
So that I think that is just what's keeping me from 100.
That's yeah I can absolutely agree with that.
Everything else looked great.
The way that America Chavez's powers manifested holy crap that was super cool.
I loved that I loved like everything that she did kind of formed a star.
Yes yeah like when she was punching the glass it shattered it to look like a star or her
all her portals looked like stars.
It was just it was so cool.
Like it was just such a bitching effect.
All of Doctor Strange's magic looked really good.
Freaking Wong's effect with the freaking spear lasso.
I don't know what it's called.
That shit was bitching.
Oh my god.
Yeah that stuff looked awesome.
Wanda's effects were absolutely terrifying.
Oh yeah.
That freaking one that she basically what she does to the Illuminaughtii.
Oh that.
Yeah.
Freaking chills every single time.
Dude for me anything that has to do with your hands.
So like if someone were to like punch a hole through your hand or like shoot something
through your hand in a movie.
Like gets me every single time and the disappearing mouth.
Yeah you know what I would absolutely agree with both of these.
Yeah so like I knew as soon as she said like because like the Illuminaughtii I'm like you
guys are freaking dumbasses.
Like you should have just freaking like you didn't have to tell her what Black Bolt could
do.
Yeah.
Like I think maybe that was like another thing that maybe kept my writing score from going
up was when they were explaining that like Black Bolt could destroy you from one whisper
from his mouth.
And I'm like well that's your mistake.
Maybe Mr. Fantastic should have said no their wife is or their mother is not living.
I'm the only one.
Yeah really.
Peace out.
And yeah just the fact that they're just like oh he can destroy you with one whisper from
his mouth.
And as soon as she said what mouth I'm like oh shit.
And then I like cut to him and then like pan down his face and it's just like no mouth.
And dude my mind was racing at the thought of everything that was that could have possibly
happened with him.
Yeah that's that's fair.
Like like when you initially saw that like what did you think was going to happen to
him.
Honestly I thought that she was just going to explode his head.
That was the first thing that came to mind.
I just did not expect her to freaking first dent his head and then blow it up.
Well dude that wasn't her.
I thought that was her.
Oh that was him trying to talk.
How did I miss that.
Yeah I do.
So this is what I thought was going to happen.
So as soon as like I saw that his mouth was gone and he was like trying to like open it
and he was like reaching at his mouth and like pulling down.
What I thought was he was going to make a noise and it was going to like rip through
his skin.
The skin.
And then like he was going to like pass the hell out and then Wanda was going to do something
like crazy to him.
No so he made a noise and apparently opening his mouth freaking blew up his brain.
Oh I swear I thought that was her that did that.
Nope that was all him.
Shit that's even more disturbing.
Okay wow.
Well that's even better.
Yeah that's why I flipped right the hell out.
And then immediately she freaking turns Reed Richards into spaghetti.
Ugh god I hate thinking of that.
So disturbing.
Dude they freaking walked the line for PG-13 on this movie.
It's straight up but holy shit.
So I am very hopeful for like when they get into characters that are a little bit more
on the violent side.
Yeah but dude this freaking upped my standards for like brutality.
Like this was insane.
Like just absolutely insane.
Like it made me sick to my stomach.
Made me audibly gasp.
Like oh my gosh I had every reaction under the sun.
But it what sold it was how good it looked too.
Yeah.
Yeah it looked super sad.
Oh my gosh.
I honestly wanted to um what am I for when.
Because he literally only does one stretch of his hand.
Mr. Fantas.
I wanted to be like Sea Fox.
Now that's how you do super elasticity effects.
That looked great.
Is it really that hard?
Yeah so I think they did a killer job with that.
Could they have done a little bit more with his stretching?
Yes.
I feel like they gave us just enough to be like excited about Mr. Fantastic.
Oh yeah absolutely.
And then just kind of like I said leave us wanting more.
And I think we got enough of his stretching when he was freaking getting torn to shreds.
Yeah.
Yeah literally.
So that was freaking rough.
I will say I did feel like there was some awkwardness between Wanda and Captain Marvel.
Okay.
And I think my problem with it was that Captain Marvel was always kind of in like the Superman
pose.
Like doing her blasts but then they were like spinning around.
And she was like constantly in that like pose where she had like the one fist down.
Like it was almost like she was flying downward but then they were spinning like a top.
And so it just kind of felt weird that she was standing that way.
Like I think it would have made a little bit more sense if she was like standing upright
and then blasting down.
That's fair.
I can definitely get behind that and agree with that.
Yeah like I just think that was an odd choice.
Trying to think of another like I don't know.
Where do you think the jetpack for Peggy falls?
Like do you think that's a costume issue or do you think that's an effect issue?
Because I didn't like the jetpack.
I didn't either.
I feel it's more of a cosmetic issue.
Okay.
So I'll dress that a bit more in costumes then because I didn't care for it.
I absolutely absolutely agree with you.
I was just like what the shit that's stupid.
I'm so glad that we didn't get a super like brutal death with her.
Yeah.
Like it was.
It was brutal.
But I'm just glad we didn't see it because that would have broken my heart.
You know what?
Fair.
Yeah.
So definitely some some thoughts there.
Trying to think of like any other effects that maybe like stood out.
Like everything else was just like the Wanda just terror.
Like when she was coming out of the mirror dimension and.
Dude, I know you said grudge, but I got freaking like Pennywise vibes when he was climbing
out of the fridge chapter one.
Oh, that too.
It's kind of like a mixture of the two.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Like super freaking gross.
So hell, I'm in I'm in the high 90s for this.
Oh, yeah, I'm I'm at 95.
I might be a little bit higher.
I think I'm like in 97.
Hell, yeah, I love it.
All right.
Moving on over to music.
This one, I was pleasantly surprised with how good the soundtrack was for this.
I mean, you saw who did the soundtrack, right?
Yeah.
Freaking Danny Elfman.
Yeah.
I mean, bro, when I when I saw that at the end, I'm like, OK, yeah, no wonder it was
so freaking good.
It was incredible.
I have literally no problems with the soundtrack.
Like I know like there was like no like actual like tracks that like, you know, like actually
spoke words.
It was all instrumental.
But it was so effective for every single scene that it in that it was in that I am very high
for music.
I am too.
The like I'm at a nine.
Same.
The only thing that like kept me from a ten was there wasn't anything that like like I
said gets caught in my head.
Yeah, that's and that's understandable.
The closest thing I will say, and I cannot say how much that I appreciate that they threw
this in.
When Professor X came rolling into the Illuminati room, they played the frickin 90s X-Men theme.
I didn't notice that because I never watched that show, but that is cool.
Yeah.
So if you were to go back and listen to like the little guitar, the Dillan, that's X-Men.
Oh, okay.
Like that is that is this X-Men show.
And if just because they threw that in future X-Men content, if we get an X-Men MCU movie
show, whatever, if they do not use that theme song, I will be extremely upset.
You know what?
Understandable.
Completely understandable.
Yeah, like I mean, any time like for the rest of the frickin time that he was on screen,
like any time he came on, I was like kind of humming to myself the song.
I love it.
I frickin love that theme song, so I hope that the MCU incorporates that.
Like kind of like what they did with the Spider-Man theme song.
Yeah, like if you want to modernize it a little bit, like have at it, but just keep the keep
the bass there.
Yes.
Other than that, not too much to say about the soundtrack.
Like I said, the only thing missing was something catchy to get caught in my head.
But Danny Elsman is a master of his craft.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, so incredible.
Yeah, I'm kind of glad he's making a comeback because I'm pretty sure he's supposed to
score the Flash movie, too.
If that movie ever even gets released.
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah.
All right, moving on over to costumes.
They had this being a superhero movie, tons of amazing costumes.
Oh, yeah.
I know it was like short and sweet, but I got a comment.
Reed Richards, Fantastic Four outfit.
Perfect.
So, so good.
I actually I always loved that in the like early 2000 movies that they had it like kind
of like kind of smaller and like on the camera, if it was on the left or right side of their
like kind of in like the the nipple, not the nipple area, the peck area.
Oh, my God is an odd decision to make.
But I remember it was always on the left.
Okay.
I always liked that choice for those.
But I know in the comics, it's always been like in the middle, which makes sense.
And I feel they did a great job transitioning that into actual real life because it doesn't
look stupid at all being right up front.
The blues look great.
I love the black on it, too.
Just oh, I'm sorry.
I know it's like a very short scene, but like for how much I love the Fantastic Four, that
was like my favorite costume of the movie.
I'm just intrigued there.
Yeah, that like I personally would have liked to see it with with white gloves and boots,
just because that's like if you want to get more classic, I am really glad that they didn't
try to alter the four at all to look like to have it like stand out from like the previous
stuff or, you know, keep four four.
Yeah.
So I'm really glad that they they kept that.
But yeah, that suit was just incredible.
It looks like it serves like a more functionality than like other suits.
Like it just seems like it has other things going for it rather than just giving him a
cool suit.
I absolutely agree.
Like maybe like storing some stuff.
But I want to see more of that suit.
Yeah, me too.
Also really, really Doug Mordo's outfit, like his green robes.
Dude, yeah, his frickin his where they call dreads.
His hair that made him a lot more intimidating than his short hair that he had in the first
one.
It really did.
He looked so cool.
Like I frickin love that.
Professor X was was spot on.
I mean, Professor X is hard to get wrong, but I think the the wheelchair, like just having
the classic yellow floating wheelchair was frickin or was it floating or did it have
wheels?
I thought it was floating.
OK, that's what I thought, too.
I might be wrong on that.
But anyway, just the yellow wheelchair was amazing.
Very well hidden.
Yeah, for sure.
So loved seeing that.
I love that they had the just how he is in the comics where he's just kind of wearing
like a nice suit.
And then when he goes into someone's mind, he's wearing like the black turtleneck with
khakis.
That was that was great.
So good.
Frickin loved Black Bolt suit.
Yeah, from what you've shown me of his of how he looks in the comics.
Yeah, that looks super good.
Yeah, compared to his.
His suit in the Inhumans show.
So in the it's tough because in the Inhumans TV show, he has it's more just like a black
leather vest with some of like the like the lines going down.
Like he kind of has like a lightning bolt kind of.
Or I don't know how to explain his suit.
It's just kind of like mirrored lightning going down his chest.
OK.
So that's like what his normal suit looks like.
And the Inhumans show, it was seriously just kind of like a zip up leather jacket.
OK.
Which I mean, it worked out.
It worked out for what the show was.
I like said, like I really wish that we got to see.
What he looked like in like the mask.
And so seeing that we got a version of him with the mask and the fricking tuning fork
on his head, because in the show, like he just had like a crown with a tuning fork,
which I'm like, I guess that's OK.
But just seeing like the full costume put together and just how fricking screen accurate
it was.
Like I appreciated the ever living hell out of it.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
I just I just googled Dr. Strange Black Bolt.
Yeah.
And they have a picture of him with his mouth gone.
And like what happened to him?
I'm sorry you had to relive that.
Yeah.
So there was a lot of things that I missed.
So yeah, when he talks, his mouth kind of like bubbles out a little bit, like with the
sound waves.
And then his eyes like completely like go red.
And then his head fricking caves in.
Oh, yeah.
Fricking gross.
So gross.
But anyway, as I was saying, the his suit looked incredible.
I had absolutely no complaints about his suit.
They threw in a little extra detail in the helmet that I think made it look really nice.
I will say this didn't care for Captain Marvel's too much.
It's I mean, it was very plain.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like her should have stood out a little bit more just because I mean, come
on, Captain Marvel.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Captain Carter's freaking loved it.
For whatever reason, it didn't feel like it didn't fit her.
A little bit.
I can definitely agree with that.
Yeah, I don't know what the deal was with it.
It just felt like it was too big.
Like I feel like I mean, not to fricking sexualize Captain Carter or anything, but I just felt
like it should have been tighter on her and it just felt very loose.
You know what?
I can honestly agree with you.
Yeah, like you said, it's not we're not trying to over sexualize or we're not over sexualize
Captain Marvel, not Captain Marvel.
I'm sorry.
I'm just gonna say Peggy.
Yeah, but no, I absolutely agree with you.
Yeah, it's like I don't need like fricking skin tight anything on like with her.
Yeah, like nothing, nothing as far as Black Widow.
Yeah.
Like even her like Newark outfit.
Like don't necessarily need anything from like that kind of look.
I do like the like the bulkier feel to her.
It's just like, I don't think they nailed the costume quite right.
Like I'm comparing it to like what if and I felt like the flag on her on her chest,
like the the red lines on the Union Jack were very thin.
So it just I don't quite know what trying to see.
Trust me, there's like a decent picture of of her.
Yeah, if you look up her Union Jack, it's like very, very thin.
So I think it needs to like they just need to fatten the that out a little bit.
But everything else look look pretty good.
Like her shield was just on point.
Like how can you get that wrong?
Yeah, that's that's fair.
It's just yeah, for me, it's just this the suit.
Like the suit, you just needed a little bit more work on.
Yeah, seeing seeing Peggy back, dude, that was awesome.
Made my life.
Yeah, I have such a crush on Haley Atwell.
It's not even funny.
She's hot.
And then getting into like the main characters, Dr. Strange and Wanda.
Oh, I love that they carried on or carried brought in what she was what outfit we saw
her wearing at the end of one division into this one, because oh, chef's kiss looks so
good.
Although it's kind of weird with the headpiece.
I feel like this not the spikes at the end, but like the little things that like come
like to buy her cheeks, it did it look like they were kind of like lifted up or did they
look pressed down?
There were some times where it felt like both.
Yeah, that's what I thought, too.
And I kind of like bug me.
But I don't know which way I would have preferred it.
Would I want to press down or lift it up?
I have no idea.
I really like I know that like a lot of people were complaining about like the the sleeves.
But I think that just really showed the the corruption that she was having with the the
Darkhold.
Yeah, because like if you notice on her on her outfit with this or in this movie versus
what are at the end of one division.
At the end of one division, all of her.
Like her bracers on her arms on her or on her gloves and then all up through her.
But just the top portion of her outfit, it's all like a very deep red.
But if you notice with the with.
With this outfit and in this movie, her sleeves are kind of black.
And then they slowly become a little bit more red as you go down her her arm and her.
She kind of has like a crack going through her her suit.
So I really liked like seeing that because it's just it just shows like how corrupted
she is with the dark and then like the black fingertips.
I was just about to bring those up.
Did she have those at the end of one division?
No.
Agatha Harkness had had those.
I don't think Wanda did.
I think that's such a nice touch, though.
I love that.
Yeah, right.
Because Agatha was also corrupted by the Darkhold.
Yeah.
So it just makes sense.
Yeah, it's so interesting, like how they how they handled that.
So I mean, the complaints that I have with the costumes, I feel are just like very minor
gripes.
But I feel like every one of these heroes you could pick out through like their silhouette,
which are like my big requirements for for good costumes.
Yeah, I agree.
So where are you at with costumes?
I'd say I'm sitting at a solid eight.
An eight.
Yeah.
I feel like maybe the one that like I feel it would be a nine.
But the costume that takes it down for me is America Chavez's.
That was a tough one for me, because that is just as screen accurate as you can possibly
get.
That's straight up all she wears in the comics.
Yeah, like, oh, look up America Chavez.
OK, if that's the case, then we're giving it a nine.
Yeah, like Google her right now.
Like she freaking wears a jean jacket with the red and white stripes.
On her sleeve and the biggest star on her back.
Son of a bitch.
OK.
Yeah, I think the only difference between.
This and like another or like this movie and her comic version is she wasn't wearing a
T-shirt with a star on it.
OK.
OK, we'll go a nine.
I mean, it wouldn't matter.
We would have ended up at a nine anyway, regardless of if you gave it a nine or an eight, because
I was going to give it a ten.
Oh, shit.
OK.
Just because I like I loved every freaking costume that they they threw at us.
I love the defender outfit.
I'll be real.
I thought his hair was just like a slicked back.
I didn't realize it was like a ponytail.
And so once I like saw the ponytail, like his costume worked like way better for me.
Is it bad just because I hate that kind of hairstyle on a guy?
I wanted to cut his ponytail off.
I mean, personal preference.
I.
Yeah, I don't know.
Whenever I see maybe I don't know.
I know he didn't have a man bun, but for some reason, like I thought of that when I saw
it.
So I'm just like, where are my scissors?
Yeah.
So I really, really dug that that outfit.
I thought it looked super cool.
I really loved his his outfit from a three eights universe, like just the blue.
Oh, yeah.
I thought that looked freaking killer.
And then finally, like this outfit, it did did feel a lot more comic book accurate with
everything and I think the.
The blue patch on the on his cloak.
Is just like a really nice touch.
It is.
I thought I thought that was going to annoy him, but no, it's annoying me.
But no, I agree.
That was a very nice touch.
Yeah, it worked out super well.
So not complaining about it at all.
So I'll give it.
I'm giving it a ten costumes, but since we round down, it's going to be a nine.
Oh, so you just put a nine.
Yeah.
If I would have put a ten, it would have averaged this out to it like a nine and a half and
we don't apply for a nine and a half.
Oh, OK.
So that's kind of why I adjusted it.
Fair enough.
All right.
And then last up, we got our own personal grade.
So yeah, where are you at?
All right.
So overall, super solid sequel for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness had a
great time with this film.
I know some of the cameos let people down.
I enjoyed basically all of them.
Wanda was amazing.
Strange was amazing.
Wong was amazing.
America Chavez grew on me.
That's the best way I could say it.
Fair.
But no, overall, I had a really good time with the sequel and for being the first MCU
horror film Sam Raimi delivered.
But you know, he's he directed Evil Dead.
So like, is anyone really surprised?
So I would say that my genre grade is I'm going to go on eighty seven.
No, God damn it.
There we go.
Oh, yeah, I I am way higher than you are.
I will say I enjoyed this movie just as much.
And this is going to be a bold thing to say, if not more than Spider-Man, No Way Home.
All right, I'm out.
And listen, this is my reasoning behind it.
It was an amazing, an amazing movie.
But I feel like the one thing that Spider-Man had over this movie is Spider-Man was able
to hit us in the nostalgia really fricking hard.
And for a majority of the movie.
True.
So I don't remember what score I personally gave Spider-Man, No Way Home.
Oh, yeah, but it doesn't show that far back.
Yeah.
Well, we also.
Oh, yeah, we have Vicks scores.
Yeah, because Vic sent his scores for that movie.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, just looking really fast.
OK, yeah, we don't have those scores.
But I know that we gave Spider-Man for like our overall score.
We gave it a 98.
Damn.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
Well, it's because Vic frickin 100 percented everything, which Vic was supposed to be a
part of this episode, but decided he had better things to do.
So I swear, Vic, if you're not on the next one that we invite you to, I we at least I
am I am officially saying that DJ is the third host of the All Bros.
Oh, damn.
I'm coming after you.
So if you if you back out of the next one we invite you on, I'm sorry, man.
You're the fourth host now.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
Yeah, so I'm not quite up at like a 98.
But I think I'll put this at what I I feel like my the same level as No Way Home.
I'm going to go to a 96.
OK, just because I loved this movie.
I loved everything that they did with it.
I love that they even though this is like multiverse of madness and you're thinking
that he's going to jump from different universe to different universe.
And I'm so glad that they just restrained it down to two main universes and then like
one additional that it's like kind of getting banished to.
Yeah.
Which and I appreciate the hell out of that.
I love the Illuminati sequences, even though it was very, very short.
It just gave me it gave me enough of the characters that I was just like, OK, like I'm happy with
this.
But yeah, like overall, very happy with the movie.
I loved this one, cannot wait to go back in and explore this movie and everything else
that it has to offer.
Or things that I missed.
But yeah, so I'm sitting at 96.
All right.
Well, that averages us out to a 91.5 for our personal score.
So that brings our final Albrose letter grade for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
to a A minus.
OK.
I guess we're good.
Yeah.
So it's sitting at a 90.62 percent.
Wow.
OK.
Yeah, so it's definitely on the lower end of our A minus movies.
But it's still an A.
Yeah, still an A or an A minus.
Oh, damn.
It's actually a wait.
Forgot to reorder it.
I was going to say it was at the bottom of our A minus scores, but no, it's not.
Oh, man, this is interesting.
All right.
So Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, like I said, is sitting at a 90.62 percent,
which like I also said, puts it at an A minus.
Comparing this to other A minus movies that we have scored, this puts it below Sonic the
Hedgehog 2, which is at a 90.66 percent.
It puts it below Promising Young Woman, which is at a 90.75.
Puts it below Tusk, which is at a 90.79.
Puts it below Turning Red, which is at a 90.87.
And then it is also below the Untrained Eye Crash and Taz score for Spider-Man Far From
Home, which is at a 90.93.
And let me just reiterate, that is just the Untrained Eye Crash and Taz score.
They sent me their scores.
That is what they collectively gave Far From Home.
But once we added it to our score, it was different.
So anyway, which is freaking crazy because like the difference between that and our between
Doctor Strange and going up five movies from to Spider-Man Far From Home, the difference
is point three percent.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Wow.
It's like it's insane.
I love doing this, dude.
I love just like how like collectively like any of these movies, I could say, hey, this
movie A minus, everyone would agree with me.
Like I feel I feel like everyone could agree with me like right.
But being like, oh, yeah, turning red is better than Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
I know I would catch shit for saying that.
I mean, not necessarily.
I know there were quite a there's quite a bit of people that are not a fan of what turning
red sets out to do with its story.
So I could actually see people agreeing with you.
Yeah, probably.
Anyway, I just think it's funny.
No, no, I can absolutely agree with that.
All right, let's see.
But that a 90.62 puts Doctor Strange above Little Women, which is at a 90.61.
So that is seriously a point zero one percent difference.
Puts it above 1917, which is at a 90.37 percent.
Yeah, I can agree with that one.
Puts it above us and soul, which are both at a 90.25 percent.
OK.
And then finally puts it above the matrix, which is at a 90.24 percent.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
Sorry, DJ.
Yeah, like it's such.
This is why I love our system, because it is seriously just.
Percentages away.
Dude, like no joke.
So this is.
So I'll list off all of the movies above Doctor Strange until we get a full percentage away.
OK.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Promising Young Woman, Tusk, Turning Red, The Spider-Man Far From
Home score for Untrained Eye and Crash and Taz, like just their solo one.
How to Train Your Dragon, Hidden World, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Shang-Chi and The
Legend of the Ten Rings and Coco.
All of those are within a single percent.
Wow.
Yeah, and the only and.
Technically the and so the Batman is.
Is a full percentage difference between Doctor Strange and.
So the Batman's at 91.62.
Doctor Strange is at 90.62.
Wow.
OK.
Like, how crazy is that?
It's super crazy.
That's awesome.
Man.
Which is I freaking love our our system, dude.
Like you have no idea.
But anyway.
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