What is up bros welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
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So he says.
So I say.
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This week on the podcast.
Alright I mean I guess we can still like talk.
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Oh.
Anyway I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And this week on the podcast we are talking about one new item in 4k spotlight and then
getting straight into our breakdown of Pixar's Light Year.
It's Pixar right?
Yeah.
That's right.
Oh my gosh.
I know I saw the movie this like today and I'm like I swear I saw the lamp but I'm not
100% sure.
And I know if I say Disney's Light Year like I would catch shit for it.
If you said Disney Pixar's Light Year that's fine but like.
Yeah but I did that like I think I did that with Frozen 2.
I said Disney Pixar's Frozen 2 and you're just like excuse you.
Well yeah because it's just Disney.
How do you know.
Okay.
Whatever I forgot.
Anyway you forget it's a Toy Story spin off.
I never forget you.
Anyway so that's what you guys can look forward to this episode.
So with that let's say we get right on into it.
Let's do it.
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Alrighty, first up in 4K spotlight.
We got one new movie coming out.
Rose, do you want to tell us all about this one?
I would love to.
So I don't know if anyone actually saw this movie because I don't think, well no I'm sure
a lot of people did.
It just didn't perform that well at the box office.
But the third Fantastic Beasts film is coming to 4K in Blu-ray.
Fantastic Beasts The Secrets of Dumbledore and Shocker.
We're also getting some exclusives with it.
So first off we have the Target exclusive.
What does the Target exclusive come out?
So this is just a Bare Bones Blu-ray exclusive.
I hate that they do this.
I wish that they would do this with 4Ks, not Blu-rays but whatever.
So it's a 16 page Newt's Journal booklet with beast sketches and more.
Sounds fun.
Sounds super fun, I guess.
I don't know.
And then we have the, so apparently Walmart is now getting into doing box sets for Warner
Brothers movies because they did it with the Batman too.
But I mean that one was badass, the Batman one.
But they're doing that with The Secrets of Dumbledore as well.
And it's just a limited edition collectible Newt's case with pop up.
That's actually pretty cool.
That does sound pretty cool.
I think the last, what was it, the Fork, when they did this for the Batman, the 4K was 40
bucks.
And then the regular Blu-ray was 35 for this exclusive.
So that's actually really cool that they're offering it on both Blu-ray and 4K for the
Walmart exclusive.
And then we'll also be getting a 4K steelbook.
And this one is actually really, I feel this one's actually pretty cool.
It's actually, as far as I know, the pre-orders are actually already sold out, which amazes
me.
But I really didn't plan on getting this because I don't have the first two on steelbook.
I only have them on just regular Blu-ray.
So it would have just been out of place.
And they're expensive now.
I can't find them for under 80 bucks each.
Oh damn.
Yeah.
I'm not paying that for Fantastic Beasts.
Don't get me wrong, I like these movies, but I don't like them that much.
So I'll just be picking up when I actually do, just like a bare bones 4K release of this
film.
But the steelbook is actually really cool because it's, so it has Hogwarts in the background
and then it has a Phoenix feather on fire flowing through the air, flying through the
air, now flowing through the air.
Wow.
So that's pretty cool.
I actually really like that steelbook.
But like I said, I don't need it.
Well, I can't even get it now because, you know, pre-orders are sold out.
And then, well apparently, there might be a second Target exclusive.
Oh wait, no, that's the same.
Wait.
I guess they're, wait.
It looks like they're also doing a 4K of the Target exclusive.
I mean, it doesn't show a picture, but it says that they are.
Weird that they wouldn't have an image for that.
Wait a damn.
Okay.
I hate, sorry.
I hate when they do this.
Or, this is the first time I'm seeing it.
So they say Fantastic Beasts, Secrets of Dumbledore, 4K Blu-ray, Target exclusive with Newt's
Journal, Blu-ray, DVD, and digital HD.
So they're saying, oh it's the 4K Blu-ray, but no, it's still, it's the same one.
So it's not, there's not a 4K version.
Damn it.
I'm sorry guys to let you down.
But yeah, so if you guys want to pick up Fantastic Beasts, Secrets of Dumbledore, you've got
quite a selection to choose from when it comes to just regular release and exclusives.
And then also, I forgot to mention that Firestarter, that new movie with Zac Efron also dropped
some Blu-ray this Tuesday.
Nice.
Dude, I don't know if there's ever been a week where you've been able to get all of
the 4Ks in the list before we start.
Yeah, I know.
Shut up.
Oh.
Well, that's why we love you.
Don't judge me.
Oh cool.
Well with that being our only news item this week, we can move on to this week's headliner
where we break down Pixar's Lightyear.
Alrighty like I said, we'll be breaking down the newest Pixar movie, Lightyear.
So if you are new to our breakdown system, we have broken movies up into 8 different
categories that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
And the 8 categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up in our algorithm and spit out a letter grade
for us to look at.
So with that, starting off with story, Rose is about to spoil the entire movie for you.
So do yourself a favor, go check out Lightyear first and then come back and give this a listen.
So if you listen past this point, it's your own damn fault if the movie spoiled for you.
So I just want to point out in this first sentence, it literally puts away or like puts
I feel to rest all of the people that say, oh the movie is nothing like the animated
show it doesn't have like all these certain characters, yada yada yada.
It says a framing device explains that in 1995 a young Andy Davis saw Lightyear, the
film that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy line.
Inspired.
That means that yeah, they took some of the characters that were in this movie, mostly
just Buzz Lightyear.
This brings up so many questions for me.
Oh really?
Yeah.
So if this is the movie, because they gave us that, so they gave us that little title
like this is the movie that inspired like the Buzz Lightyear toy line, right?
And then right after that they start playing Pixar credits or like introduction.
Does that mean that Pixar exists within the Pixar universe?
Now why you gotta fake it to it like that?
And also was this, was Lightyear an animated movie or was it a live action movie?
I'm going to assume that it was an animated movie because no offense to Buzz Lightyear,
but no one has his shape of head.
Well think about in the Pixar universe.
So like from Andy's perspective, was this a live action movie?
God damn it.
Right?
I hate you.
I like to think of it as animated.
Yeah but then like would Andy believe that he's animated?
Why are you putting these thoughts into my head you son of a bitch?
Dude I didn't bring these thoughts up.
I brought these thoughts up.
It's freaking insane to think about right?
Freaking hurts your head.
You know what everyone wished and I agree that one of the post credit or sorry well
no this isn't spoiled anything that one of the post credit scenes or even if the only
post credit screen was literally it like panning back to Andy just like in awe after seeing
the movie in the theater.
That would have been great.
That would have been dope.
Yeah.
What the hell Pixar?
You're like capitalizing oh yeah this is the movie that Andy saw in 1995.
I feel that we should have seen a clip of Andy being in like absolute him being absolutely
mesmerized by what he just saw and be like yeah mom can I get a Buzz Lightyear for my
birthday?
That would have been sick.
Or even do it with like Andy showing his kids that movie.
Oh that would have been sweet.
Right?
Oh.
But unfortunately no.
No in Pixar's universe Andy's book is closed.
That would have been a great way to kind of like not fully open it but kind of like quick
like hey open shut.
I still want to see the Disney plus little short where Andy comes back to Bonnie's house
and just like hey where's all my toys?
Especially Woody.
Yeah.
How about that?
Well no I'm sorry.
No all the other toys are with her.
Sorry.
No him just asking hey so where's Woody?
How about that?
Geez.
All right anyway got off track a little bit there.
Yeah I mean we're still talking about the movie so it's okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Buzz Lightyear a space ranger in Star Command and his commanding officer and best friend
Alicia Hawthorne explore the habitable planet Takani Prime with their new recruit feathering
him stand.
You know I can understand why he just called him the rookie.
I get it.
Yep.
They are forced to retreat to their exploration vessel after discovering that the planet hosts
hostile life forms.
Buzz damages the vessel during the retreat forcing the crew to evacuate in order to conduct
repairs and continue their journey.
One year later the crew have constructed a nascent colony along with the necessary infrastructure
to conduct repairs.
Buzz volunteers to test hyperspace fuel a key component of their repairs.
However after a four minute test he finds that four years have passed on Takani Prime
due to the effects of time dilation from having traveled at.
Well why is this word so hard me relativistic.
I think that's the word.
She's gonna have to Google this for you.
Shut up.
Relativistic speeds.
Buzz is introduced to Sox a robotic feline and continues testing the hyperspace fuel
with every test four more years pass on to Kani Prime until eventually over 62 years
have passed.
During this time the colony develops.
Alicia raises a son with her wife Kiko subsequently dying of old age and Sox improves the fuels
composition allowing it to obtain faster than light speeds.
Against the orders of his new commanding officer Commander Burnside Buzz uses this new fuel
composition for a successful hyperspace test.
On landing Buzz discovers 22 years have passed during which to Kani Prime has been invaded
by Zyklops robots led by the mysterious Zerg.
Buzz meets up with the members of the colony's defense forces including Izzy Hawthorne Alicia's
now adult granddaughter.
Mo Morrison a fresh naive recruit and Darby Steel an elderly paroled convict.
While initially reluctant to work with them Buzz eventually warms to them.
Together they plan to attack Zerg's ship and destroy the invading force.
Following an encounter Zerg abducts Buzz bringing him aboard his ship where he reveals that
he is an older Buzz from an alternate timeline in which he escaped from Burnside's forces
after the successful hyperspace test.
Aided by the effects of time dilation he traveled to the far future encountering a technologically
advanced and abandoned vessel.
He assumed Zerg's identity by wearing his signature mecha suit and traveled to the now
present to obtain more hyperspace fuel from Buzz in order to travel further back in time
and prevent the exploration vessel from landing on Takani Prime in the first place.
However Buzz refuses due to the implications of the possible temporal paradox that would
result from such actions which would wipe out the current timeline and everyone from
it.
Meanwhile Izzy, Mo, Darby and Sox board Zerg's ship to assist Buzz.
After a chaotic assault on the ship Buzz and his comrades in arms destroy the ship and
escape.
However Zerg having survived his ship's destruction arrives and attacks Buzz grabbing the hyperspace
fuel.
As Zerg prepares to destroy him Buzz shoots the fuel causing it to explode and incapacitate
Zerg.
With the fuel gone Buzz wishes to stay on Takani Prime.
Upon landing Burnside arrests Buzz but relents allowing Buzz to revive the Space Ranger Corps.
Buzz selects Izzy, Mo, Darby and Sox to form the core of this organization much to Burnside's
surprise.
Buzz and his team are then sent off to a new adventure in parts unknown.
In a post credit scene Zerg is revealed to have survived the explosion.
I made it.
Alright just kind of taking off in story.
Are you going to infinity and beyond?
So this one's tough for me because it's like the premise for this is pretty solid.
Like it's like I still kind of have like fresh eyes on this movie so I mean I'm trying to
not be as like oh my gosh that was so good even though it was fair.
Like I had an amazing time watching this movie.
Oh I did too.
I actually saw this movie twice.
Did you really?
Yeah well because so I saw it Saturday and then I really wanted to see it next day so
I went and saw it Monday.
Nice.
Yeah although both freaking times there was someone up up front of me playing on their
freaking phone a couple times during the movie.
I hate people.
Like every I don't know what it is literally ever since like COVID and not COVID ended
but ever since like you know like things have like started to kind of get back to normal
and like you know everything's kind of like more relaxed yada yada yada every single time
I go to the movies it feels like someone pulls out their phone in front of me.
My experience is always somewhat ruined.
It's never been perfect ever since God when we started going back to the movies.
Dude I'm so over movie theaters.
I'm getting to there and I never thought I would say that.
I someone did like someone did pull their phone out during my viewing today.
The only thing that kind of like saved my viewing a little bit in my eyes was I got
to experience a young kid being there and so he was like flipping out and just having
like a great time and that was like that was awesome to experience.
Yeah I remember with my when I first saw it on Saturday yeah there were so there wasn't
a lot of people at both showings but I feel there was less people at the Saturday showing
but both of them were dads with their young sons and I'm just like that makes me smile.
It was really sweet.
Bring your sons to a Buzz Lightyear movie.
Yeah.
And they were actually very well behaved both times.
Really like yeah like kids weren't the problem with my theater experience with this movie.
People with their damn phones.
Oh my gosh that's funny.
But yeah so like I said overall like the story was I felt it fit really well.
Like I don't think they went too crazy with the story which ended up working out in its
favor like I felt like they could have tried to go like really deep and philosophical and
just lots of character building and all this other stuff but they kept the story just it
felt pretty basic.
It did and I actually really like that too.
I appreciated that they tried to keep this really grounded in reality whereas like how
we talked about with like the beginning of them saying oh you know this is the movie
that started all and then they branched off with creating you know other characters and
kind of making it more not like kiddie but like make it more like what's the word not
sci-fi no because this is still sci-fi I don't know but like more god damn it whatever.
You know what I mean though right?
I mean I do I'm not sure everyone else that's listening does.
I don't know how to explain this though this is the problem.
You add you add lore on to lore?
No that doesn't make sense.
It's like world building.
That's the word thank you.
Yeah you just keep adding and adding and that's that's where to me I feel that's where like
the animated show goes with that but this is where it all started and they branched
off from this.
But yeah I had a blast with the story.
The beginning I feel freaking capped like freaking captivates you.
Honestly the I feel the biggest problem I have is I felt in the middle there was like
a little bit of stumbling like when they're in that room before Zerg attacks them again
and they're just oh that mining area yes and like they're like they have like the sandwich
thing and everything yeah that was I don't know that the movie kind of hit like a like
a road stop for me just just a little bit yeah but I there were some definite pacing
issues there.
It's just they spent a little too much time there.
Yes yeah I agree and I don't know dude after I got out of this movie I went home and I
made myself a sandwich I don't know why I did you really yeah I did after watching this
movie I wanted a sandwich.
I did not make it how they did in this movie though.
Oh me me on that no no meat meat on the top under the bread or sorry on top of the bread.
No.
But yeah no overall really good.
I feel I'm sure a lot of people had a problem with the whole Zerg twist with I didn't okay
I thought it was fine too and I really appreciated how when he came out of the suit Buzz is immediately
like dad but I'm glad that they didn't turn it into that I know I was so happy that that
would have been such a cop out he's just oh no I'm you know you from the more distant
future I'm like okay thank God.
Yeah and my problem though is like how like it just seems super convenient in like a weird
way like and I know this is like ultimately a kid's show but it's a kid's movie but like
he he went so far in the future where technology was so advanced that he was able to somehow
create a reverse hyperdrive to push himself backwards in time and it seemed like the people
like he landed and then Burnside was like waiting for him it's like like what yeah a
lot of weird shit that happened I'm like wait then I mean I guess you can justify him being
like oh well Zerg was like attacking so they were locked in their little base so that's
why he didn't meet them there but at the same time isn't it supposed to be up until the
point where he gets attacked by oh my god what's his commander after Hawthorne Burnside
Burnside isn't it supposed to be the exact same timeline up until that point so why is
it that when our Buzz I guess or like young Buzz he doesn't get or like he isn't welcome
not welcomed I guess or how come he is not you know what I'm just gonna say welcome how
come he's not welcomed by Burnside but yet old Buzz was welcomed by Burnside when he
landed.
My thought on that is that Burnside is locked up in the colony with the laser grid because
the Zerg bots were attacking the laser grid.
You know what I think you just said that before I even before I said my sentence so I'm sorry.
Yeah so I kind of actually just fixed my issues.
Okay yeah you fixed mine too god damn it.
Well no not god damn it.
Yeah I mean but it makes it does make sense like and we'll get into this with character
development but it just seeing what that Buzz went through like it's understandable why
like he is just so mission focused and didn't have that like opportunity to grow and like
connect with other people to at least not like he thought his only friend had like passed
on so it made sense that he's just like you know what f it I'm gonna complete this mission
and goes and does some crazy shit.
I feel that's a slap in the face to Sox but.
Yeah but like I think my big problems with the Zerg persona was it just seems super convenient
for him to travel so far in the future and find an abandoned ship like what.
I will fully admit if I you know this was like the first movie I saw as a kid and then
you know they let into the Buzz Lightyear animated show after this movie I would I feel
Zerg is more intimidating in the animated show than he is in this movie.
I can the animated I didn't watch too much of the animated show growing up like okay
like if you're going based off of the like because we recently watched the Buzz Lightyear
of Star Command animated movie that I'll give you that that circle was pretty intimidating.
And you know I enjoyed the Zerg don't get me wrong but it really it was kind of weird
just not hearing Zerg talk that much.
Don't worry you look cool.
Yeah it just wasn't the Zerg that I'm used to and I get it you know this is supposed
to be how Zerg started and then they branched off from this and made the Zerg that we know.
But this might be I do have a question.
Did you cry?
I feel you have to ask that in the picture movie.
Oh I'll be 100% real I got real close with the the message that Hawthorne left for Buzz.
Yeah I thought I'll fully mediterranean.
It was very sweet.
Dude that was rough.
Like and it's it sucks for Buzz because like for him it's only been like maybe a week worth
of time and he's seeing his friend like rapidly age and basically like experiencing her life
from the outside and just it's insane to think about and like you understand his motivations
because he's just so mission focused.
But I think and like with someone like that I think he was just like indoctrinated with
the Space Ranger like ideal because I don't think it was really about the mission he just
wanted to like fix his mistake.
Yeah which can we talk about that for a second like do what kind of bullshit like spaceship
gets like a tiny little scratch on it and like stops working.
Apparently all ships at Star Command.
That's so it was so dumb.
Like I seriously like when when you see the scratch I was just like yes they made it.
And then like it started crashing I'm like excuse you why is like a tiny little scratch
I'm like or at least it looked like it.
And it's just it was weird.
It was super weird.
So it's like those issues that I had with it brought the story down a little bit and
like you said the pacing issues when they're at the mining colony which I have to kind
of give some writing props to that to that scene because like I do feel like there was
some pretty decent dialogue in that in that area.
But spacing wise it just felt so off.
It's like because it was go go go go go and it was like a freaking like halt.
And then back to go go go go go.
So I'm trying to think of any other like story issues.
Like I really liked socks.
Oh god.
Don't get me started with that character because oh my god I loved him so much.
He was super fun.
I want to freaking socks of my own.
I mean I know I have a real life cat but I kind of want to have socks of my own.
Dude I wanted to know why they were just going to like take his cat from him.
Yeah seriously.
Like okay cool.
Like it's it's a it's like a like basically like a loneliness droid.
Like you're just going to go and take that from him like freaking assholes.
I mean maybe Burnside just thought with maybe Hawthorne had some like I don't know some
like files installed with socks or some stuff like that.
And so he didn't want Buzz to find them out.
I don't know.
Right.
Freaking weird.
Other than that I really like the the team.
Dude can I don't know about you but freaking when they're all walking out at the end and
like their new Space Ranger suits suits I got freaking chills because I'm like oh my
god we actually get to see the like because I thought the one that we just saw in like
the post-fusion trailers I'm like okay you know that looks really close to the toy.
It makes sense that you know like make it more look realistic.
No at the end you actually like see full on his Space Ranger suit looks exactly like the
toy and it's freaking awesome.
Dude that is just I have so much to say about that when we get to costumes but holy shit.
Freaking laser laser and all freaking wings.
Yeah that's all I'm gonna say.
So good.
Yeah so not there I know that's more of a writing thing.
I was gonna say a lot of the things that Buzz was missing in this and like what we know
for him to have like to have from the toy like the whole the raise or the not the razor
the laser on his wrist the jet pack and everything with wings like all of that stuff.
I was wondering how they were going to incorporate all that and they did it with such like finesse
like it's just like hey laser wrist mounted laser or that Buzz was using and it was just
like some old equipment that he kind of like jerry rigged to be like wrist mounted which
was awesome to see.
And then the ejection seat turned into a freaking jet pack and when he popped out with the freaking
wings dude I was like yes.
Like I almost wish that there was more slow mo on that shot.
Dude doesn't he say not today zerg too?
Yup.
Yeah I was just like this is the best.
But I love that I love how we worked up to like the Buzz toy.
The only thing that I don't think we've we got that like that I think of when I'm thinking
of Buzz was the karate chop.
Yeah that's I feel that probably would have been a little hard to incorporate.
Yeah that definitely would have been like super hard but other than that like they incorporated
everything.
I wish they would have gone over the buttons dude because we only know like like they explained
that the the green one is like stealth mode which was awesome like the way that they perform
stealth was sick and I just wish I wish we knew what the other buttons did.
Yeah and that freaking the big red button what wasn't that like what the hell was that
called?
Oh it was like the surrender button but it was just like an airbag system.
After seeing this movie I'm kind of mad that my Buzz Lightyear toy as a kid didn't come
with a pen in it.
Dude right?
I should have had a pen.
Oh but I mean overall this was a story that I felt we didn't know we needed.
Yeah I agree like honestly when they first announced this I'm just like okay but like
I don't know how you guys are gonna pull this off but yeah it's like but why?
But they did a pretty damn good job.
So with that I think I'm in the the high 80s for sure the story is like is maybe the lowest
thing for me.
That's fair.
Which I'm thinking like 86 maybe.
Yeah I'll go 86.
Where are you at?
You know what I was gonna do 85 but I think I enjoyed it just that much so you know what
I'm gonna match you at 86.
Nice.
Alright so that averages out to an 86 for story.
Moving on over to writing I feel like they did pretty good.
I think they did throw a lot of cheese into the dialogue.
Yes especially with the catchphrases that Buzz has.
Yeah they definitely try to do as many references as they could to Buzz in the Toy Story films.
Like even when he did the like Buzz Lightyear to Star Command why don't they answer?
I'm like okay you know I love it but at the same time that felt like a little forced.
Yeah I'm like freaking cringey.
I did love though the scene where he's like he is talking to you know the oh my god whatever
the hell it's called the mission log thank you sorry and then freaking Hawthorne like
interrupts him and she's just like you know no one listens to those right and he's just
like I know that but you know it helps keep me focused.
Like that was a fun like justification for that.
Like I did really appreciate that and dude one thing that I thought that they were going
to do which I'm a little okay actually it might have seemed forced is I kind of wish
that something bumped his helmet so it opened up on that planet without them knowing if
there was like air and then have him do the thing.
I feel that scene I would be like okay.
Yeah like now that I've talked it out I was kind of waiting on it.
I'm sorry man.
Completely fair.
I will say one line that I went like yeah was at the beginning when he's like pulling
you know like trying to like get the ship to like go up and like not hit the like I
think like the edge of a rock and the rookies just like are you sure Buzz?
He's just like I'm Buzz Lightyear I'm always sure.
That one felt like very authentic but just like very like fluid.
It didn't feel out of place or nothing so like I freaking got like a huge grin when
he said that.
Yeah but he never like I don't think he ever said something like that right?
Yes he did in Toy Story 2 when they're running through the air vents and he's and well I
mean this is when it's not their Buzz it's the other Buzz and they're running through
the air ducts and I forget who asks him because he's like oh wait and they're just like are
you sure and he's just like I'm Buzz Lightyear I'm always sure.
Oh I completely missed that.
Really?
I didn't catch that reference at all so that's a good one to know.
Okay so yeah I really like that one then.
The other stuff was like a little funky though you're mocking me aren't you?
Like I was like ehhhh.
Like come on.
What was it like the first five minutes they like tried to work in like five different
catch phrases.
I know I'm just like dude spread them out.
Like god damn.
Like I swear you have freaking an hour forty minutes like you could spread them out a little
bit shit.
And you have four freaking movies of catch phrases that you can put in.
Mmhmm.
Oh man.
So yeah that stuff is something I definitely docked for.
But the stuff that I really liked was the I really dug the conversation that they were
having in the mining colony.
Because they had like they just had a bunch of like really good lines that hit Buzz like
in his character.
Like how he was talking about like oh if uh like how am I going to save you if I'm like
stuck with you guys.
And they're just like we don't need you to be like to save us we need you to come help
us with this.
And like I loved those moments I loved even the sandwich conversation.
Like talking about the sandwich and Buzz kind of just being like really vulnerable and talking
about like how he was a screw up and uh when he was a rookie.
Yeah.
Like all those like moments of growth were really nice to see with a character that comes
off as cocky as Buzz does.
True.
So I really really dug that stuff.
Um dude Chris Evans was a killer.
Was a killer choice.
I told Caleb literally he took away any doubt or fear I had of him playing Buzz Lightyear
within the first five minutes.
Because I know everyone was just like oh yeah you know I mean this is like really acting.
So actually you know what I'm gonna say that for acting.
Yeah um because yeah I have a lot to say about about his performance.
Um but yeah dialogue wise I thought I felt it was pretty pretty good.
There was a little now that I'm like talking it through I may have lied about acting or
story being my my low score.
I can honestly agree with you yeah with writing because there were some lines especially from
the uh Buzz's team.
Um I forget their all their names.
Izzy Moe and Darby.
There were scene there were there was some dialogue especially um like when they're trying
to like when that Zerg robot grabs Buzz and like he's literally walking away with him
and they're trying to rescue him.
I feel like the whole um how uh um oh my god uh the harpoon joke how they kept like dragging
that on with how yeah I know missing like come on like we get it he missed or he keeps
missing can we move on to the next joke.
Yeah.
Yeah thinking about all that stuff kind of brings me down a little bit.
Even sorry one more thing even the frickin what's the old lady's name?
Darby.
Darby I feel even like her the parole thing was mentioned way too much.
Yeah.
Yeah that I mean the joke I think it was meant to be played off as funny but it just it just
fell a little short of funny.
Yeah I mean I chuckled but I didn't expect you to literally just keep adding to the joke.
Yeah like it wasn't even that she brought if she was a convict it was her parole.
We're just like okay we get it shut up.
Yeah exactly.
Like you want to like you want to make that that line better bring up that she's a convict
during that fight and then bring up that she's a convict at the very end.
Perfect and then like like the whole conversation with Buzz like hey so like why are you a convict?
Oh I stole a ship and then have Buzz kind of do his whole thing but I think it's yeah
just kind of fell short and that's no fault of the actress.
Oh no she did great.
This was just purely a writing issue.
I'm trying to think of someone else.
Zerg was kind of like generic for a villain like I feel he should have talked a little
bit more.
I agree.
Like when he was old Buzz I think yeah when he was old Buzz I think he talked more but
then I wish he would have been in the suit and talked and or given like some more dialogue
because it just seemed like it was old Buzz gave away his evil plan and then yeah and
then after that he just kind of was like attacking Buzz.
Yeah like there was no real dialogue other than like the occasional like little line
like I don't know wasn't a super memorable like fight.
No it wasn't.
I think some like some better dialogue between old and young Buzz would have helped a lot.
Absolutely absolutely.
Yeah I talk myself like way down.
I'm still in the 80s.
I'm still in the 80s too but I was thinking I was going to be in like the mid 80s but
I think I'm in the low.
I'm honestly like at a solid 80.
Yeah I'm like maybe a little higher than you I'm like at an 81.
Alright moving on over to acting.
We have a pretty star studded cast here.
So we'll just cover the big ones.
We have Chris Evans who voiced Buzz Lightyear.
Kiki Palmer who voiced Izzy Hawthorne.
Peter Son or Sone.
I'm gonna say Son.
Who voiced Sone.
I'm pretty sure it's Sone.
Alright Peter Sone who voiced Sox.
Taika Watiti who voiced Mo Morrison.
Dale Soles who voiced Darby Steel.
James Brolin who voiced Zerg.
And then Uzo Aduba who voiced Alicia Hawthorne.
So I think those are pretty much the main players.
Yeah I would agree.
Yeah just looking yeah other than that no.
Like no one else of note I would say.
Alright I would say top three but I'm assuming Buzz is at number one for you.
Yeah.
Okay.
So let's do top four like knowing that Buzz is number one.
Okay.
Alright um number four.
Sorry.
Man this isn't even like difficult for me.
Oh it's not?
Not really.
Okay number four I'm gonna give it to Dale Soles who played Darby Steel.
She was amazing.
I loved her.
Number three I would actually give to actually I'm sorry can I change I'm sorry rerun.
Okay.
I'm sorry I'm gonna actually change it because I forgot how much I loved her.
Number four I'm gonna actually give it to Uzo Aduba who played Alicia Hawthorne.
Absolutely loved her as this character and her emotional moments that she had to have
were amazing.
Number three you know I would actually give it to Dale Soles.
She was slightly above Uzo.
I loved her as Darby.
She was amazing.
Great character.
Number two I would give to Peter Sohn who played Sox because oh my god this freaking
character is just amazing and his voice fits it so perfectly and I love it so much.
And then of course number one Chris Evans as Buzz Lightyear.
Fantastic job an amazing follow-up or not predecessor it's not predecessor right when
you follow up someone what's it called?
I forget the term for it.
Okay but he's a great follow-up to Tim Allen who of course voiced Buzz Lightyear literally
in almost everything.
I will say me and Caleb both agree with this.
We feel that it would have been so much cooler nothing against James Borland but if Tim Allen
would have done the voice for old Buzz.
That would have been so good.
I don't know if they weren't able to get Tim Allen or they just didn't want to do that
but like I said nothing against James Borland because he's an amazing actor but I just
feel that's kind of a missed opportunity.
Dude it was a super missed opportunity.
I was oh man.
Alright my number four I think I'm gonna same as you I'm gonna go with Uzo Aduba who voiced
Alicia.
I felt like she did a really good job.
She seemed to sound more natural in her speaking.
It didn't feel like so like performative or like it didn't feel like she was trying to
play up anything.
My number three I'm actually going to give to Taika Watiti.
I thought Mo was a very funny character.
Enjoyed hearing Taika kind of run with him which it was kind of cool.
Like it felt like it felt like they designed Mo around Taika Watiti.
Dude I thought the same thing.
So I loved that little thing that they did there.
But yeah I think his performance was really good.
Hit the comedic marks like perfectly.
And then yeah my number two same as you I'm giving to Peter Sohn who voiced Socks because
Socks was epic.
Like he had like a perfect mixture of like heart but still sounding robotic.
Yeah.
It was such an interesting thing that he was doing with his voice because there were times
where he felt like he was like I said he was being very welcoming in his voice or comforting
but never went so far where it sounded like comforting to where it seemed not robotic.
So really appreciated that.
Unfortunately Kiki Palmer just did not crack top four for me and it was mainly because
I felt hers came off a little like campy.
Yeah that's I can agree with that.
Yeah it's just I think animated work is really difficult to do.
So yeah that's unfortunately all that was keeping her from there.
Like she's a close number five.
But I just liked Uzo a little bit more.
Yeah I agree.
I don't know what it was.
Her voice felt like comforting to me.
I don't know what it was about her voice.
Yeah right.
You're talking about Uzo right?
Yeah.
Yeah right.
Okay so I'm not the only one.
No not at all.
Okay cool.
And then yeah number one Buzz or Chris Evans.
Dude he matched Tim Allen's cadence to a tee.
Like he threw in his like Chris Evans-ness and it was usually like around when he was
talking a little bit more wholeheartedly or being a little bit more vulnerable or having
some sort of emotion rather than like this stoic, not quite monotone but just like you
know kind of the same sound.
Because I wouldn't quite say that Buzz Lightyear has a monotone voice.
It's just like I said it's very stoic.
So it's always like talking like he's a hero like almost kind of like Metro Man from Mega
Mind.
That is a great way to put it.
Yeah so I think yeah Chris Evans like nailed the stoic-ness of Tim Allen damn near flawlessly
but was able to throw in his own personality which was really nice to see.
So I personally loved his performance.
Like it was top-notch and I think like you said when you messaged me it was like first
five minutes like seeing him speak as Buzz.
After that I had no issues hearing Buzz from him.
It's kind of interesting though that they would choose to do this type of story with
and then cast Chris Evans like the whole man out of time thing.
Yes, they had this planned.
Yeah I know I was just like dude this is basically Captain America in space.
Yeah seriously though and you know what I am all for it.
So where you sit in acting acting wise?
Even like the lower performances I still thought were super super good.
So I really don't have huge problems with it.
So I'm gonna go an 88.
I am gonna go a little bit lower than you and it's purely because of everyone that wasn't
Buzz other than Socks.
Like Buzz and Socks freaking like held this movie together.
It's true.
Yeah Izzy, Moe, Darby, Zerg like all of them did okay with their performances.
It just was like it felt like they were dragging it down just a hair.
That's fair.
So I mean so I think I'm down at like I think I'm going to like an 85 unfortunately.
Oh it's understandable.
Alright well that averages out to an 86.5.
And then I don't know if I said for writing averaged out to an 80.5.
Alright moving on over to character development.
This I felt they did a pretty good job on.
Yeah they really did.
Honestly I loved seeing Buzz Lightyear's story arc throughout this movie.
Especially the fact that like at the end when he meets old Buzz and Buzz is just like oh
hey you know like I have it this way to where we can go back in time.
We can reset everything to how we want it.
We can be space rangers again.
Hawthorne can be our partner once again.
And you know young Buzz is just like yeah but that basically takes away literally everything
that she already had.
Her wife, her daughter, just all this stuff.
Oh wait no I'm sorry.
They had a son didn't they?
And then his wife.
And then the granddaughter.
That yes thank you.
And so that literally just takes away everything that she worked really hard for.
And the fact that Buzz chooses other people over himself with making it right for him.
Honestly I feel like it's such a Buzz move and I love it so much.
The way that we climb to that with Buzz at the beginning.
His main focus is wanting to finish the mission to actually get everybody home and just discovering
along the way that hey you know maybe where I'm stuck is it's not really stuck.
I'm actually you know like happy where I am after I've met all of these amazing people.
So yeah I thought it was a really good character arc and I think Pixar did a really good job.
Yeah I agree.
He had lots of growth where in the beginning he was very resistant towards working with
rookies and then ultimately gets to the point where he only wants to work with his rookies.
And it was just a sweet moment like thinking that oh I can handle it myself I can handle
it myself and then just kind of struggling with the feeling that he left everyone abandoned
on this unknown planet and I think that was like it was a really tough thing for him to
to deal with and it's understandable both directions that he went with like the with
the Buzz that we were following versus the Buzz that eventually turned into Zerg.
Like you understand both of their perspectives like they both have this we need to complete
the mission mentality but the old Buzz didn't have people in his life to connect to.
So it kind of makes sense that he would become disconnected from what everyone else wanted
or why people would be happy on this planet.
I just felt it was like a super interesting story arc for him and it's I don't know I
thought it was it was really nice a really great story to tell.
So gosh like now I'm just sitting in silence because it's that good.
So what do you think in character development wise?
I can't decide if I'm either in the like high 90s not 90s wow sorry either low 80s or high
90s.
So you know what I'm just gonna meet in the middle and I'm gonna give it a 90.
I'm gonna give it a 91 just because I really enjoyed the the arc.
I felt they did Buzz really good justice so really appreciated everything that they did
with that and it kept it interesting.
Like even though the story wasn't necessarily the best the the growth that we get from Buzz
made it like kind of made up for for that.
Yes absolutely agree.
Alright so that averages to a 90.5 moving on over to effects which in this case is animation.
Damn yeah.
God damn.
Dude it was so freaking good.
This is top notch.
I mean Pixar has always been top notch with animation but I have never seen human characters
look this good in a Pixar film.
Like holy shit.
Dude the the freaking texturing that they had on everything like it was so good.
Like one of the the scenes that stood out to me was with the with the rookie.
Like at the beginning when Buzz was like Buzz and Hawthorne were running towards the turnip
and then Buzz sees the freaking rookie getting taken down by these plants and I thought it
was super funny that they included the little sat eyes thing.
Yeah.
And he's just like ah and then runs and goes to save the the rookie.
But when he looks back like you could see the sweat on his face and his his helmet like
kind of was like fogged up a little bit.
Like it's just like those little details like just blew this the effects out of the water
with with this.
Like the animation was so freaking good.
Dude freaking the way that Pixar has improved with how they do hair especially.
Alicia's hair.
Holy shit looked incredible.
Yeah.
Have you seen like they're I'm not sure if it's like a full blown documentary but what
they've accomplished with that and why they feel comfortable taking on some of these more
cultural hairstyles.
No huh.
Like so they developed this technology for Encanto where they're able to get like natural
curls that actually like work really well with physics and they're not just like super
stationary and shit.
So they've advanced their their hair technology to extreme degrees where before they were
only able only ever able to do like straight hair.
Now they can do curly hair and just different styles of hair.
Like they're able to go through the full dynamic range that hair is it can go through.
That is so bad ass.
I'm so happy.
It's so good.
Like oh but yeah.
Alicia's hair looked incredible.
Like all the fine details in this movie was really good.
Oh yeah.
Gosh I had like close to no complaints with this.
Yeah same hair like same here.
I think my only like real complaints was when it came to maybe certain shielding.
Like the the shielding that Buzz had when he was flying past the that sun that looked
fine but like the laser grid was a little like iffy.
Okay I get where you're coming from.
And then some like the movement of some of the zerg bots kind of felt a little iffy at
times too.
Yeah yeah I can agree with that one.
Yeah other than that I can't really think of anything like animation wise that wasn't
great.
So I mean the stuff that pointed out was just like super minor but I think I'm still in
like the high 90s.
Oh yeah same here.
Where are you at?
Um it's just for how much I love this animation.
Uh you know I'm gonna go a 97.
That is actually exactly where I was at too.
Sweet.
Hell yeah.
Alright next up we got music.
Nothing really like like don't get me wrong the soundtrack worked with the movie but like
there wasn't like any like tune that I was like humming after I got out of the theater.
Yeah same here.
Like the the songs that they had worked well.
The only one that I really even kind of noticed was the um the Buzz Lightyear like theme song.
Yeah that's really all that I remembered.
But other than that it was just very very basic like worked for the scenes.
I'm gonna I'm gonna give some props though because like when they enhanced the scene
they enhanced the freaking scene.
Yeah oh Michael Giacchino from the butcher's name Michael Giacchino I think that's how
you say his name.
Guy does amazing with um scores and once again he did a great job with Lightyear.
Yeah.
Like this was tough.
Like had had the music not worked so well with the scenes and just enhance them as much
as they did.
I probably would have been about like a seven.
But I think with how how well executed um the soundtrack was used I think I'm sitting
more around an eight.
I can match that.
Alright next up we got costumes.
Holy shit dude.
If you had any fear that they wouldn't be able to actually pull off how the Buzz Lightyear
costume looks on a Buzz Lightyear action figure by the end at the end of this movie because
it doesn't happen till the end all your fears will just be blown away.
Dude holy even.
Oh my gosh.
So the suit like the like the first suit that he gets into or that he's seen in like just
that suit alone and like throughout the like basically the entire freaking movie felt so
good like it felt like something an astronaut would actually wear.
Absolutely.
They did a great job making the Buzz Lightyear space suit realistic.
Yeah it oh my gosh I can't even talk about how well it freaking worked out and they incorporated
all of the freaking different aspects to the Buzz Lightyear toy so so well.
They turned the freaking the red button into like an emergency switch like absolute genius
like especially like since he didn't have like a jet pack attached to his suit until
like the very end.
Yeah that was a stroke of genius.
The three buttons I wish we would have learned what the buttons do.
We only learned about one just the stealth button not the other two.
And being able to see that the helmet isn't just a helmet for oxygen it also serves as
like a heads up display.
Yes like that was awesome like I noticed like in the background whenever he had the helmet
on and it was like zoomed up close on his face you could see like numbers and stats
and different shit.
Like when he was walking towards the ship and then behind him you could see like Izzy
Moe and Darby.
Like it showed the names and everything up in the on the display and I'm like that is
so freaking cool.
So I love that.
All that was freaking awesome and so satisfying when he like got back into the suit.
And I love that they used the different colors for Moe and Darby.
I think it would have looked like kind of like whatever went with the different colors
or with the same color like if they were all in green I think.
I mean it worked at the end of the movie because I feel that's a straight up nod to the animated
show.
Oh yeah straight up.
But I really like the other colors because I feel like that's it's like I know it's
kind of more or less ripping off like Star Trek like those like colors of like rank and
stuff but that's how I would feel they would actually distinguish between ranks or positions.
Like I think they would do it based off of color.
I agree.
So love that.
And then the final suit dude.
Chef's Kiss.
Right.
Oh so good.
So good.
I love that they add like the carbon fiber pattern.
It was so good.
Like it was the carbon fiber green like everything was like super bright colored and then they
were like walking and then they like you see the freaking jet packs with the wings and
everything and you just oh just could that have gotten any better?
No I don't think it could have.
I think like I had no issues with the zerg bots.
I think my only issue was with zerg himself but that was so minor.
Like my only thing was like okay zerg's just like a little too big.
Yeah that's a good point.
Like I felt like it would have been you probably could have gotten away with it not being a
mech.
Yeah true.
It did make him intimidating when he was like right next to the zbots and like how big he
was but like I said super minor issue.
Other than that I don't have any issues.
I got nothing.
So I think unless I'm like misreading your reaction I think I know exactly what we're
giving costumes.
A 10?
Hell yeah.
Are you were you were you thinking 9?
No I was thinking 10 but I just wanted to make sure that I was reading you right.
Okay yeah perfect 10 for costumes because it was animators or whoever like designed
this freaking I hope you get all the raises.
Yes.
Alright last up we got our own personal score.
So where are you sitting?
Alright overall this was a great origin movie.
I had a blast pun intended with this one.
I didn't think that we needed this movie but it turned out that they actually wrote a very
good script around it and it makes sense that this is where the whole like Buzz Lightyear
thing started and then when it came to like expanding on the universe this you know this
is where it started and then they just went branched off from this.
Chris Evans was amazing as Buzz Lightyear.
Great cast overall.
Animation was oh my god just incredible.
So overall yeah just for how much I enjoyed this movie I'm gonna go a solid 90.
Yeah I freaking spoiler alert I'm going with a 90 as well.
I had an absolute blast with this movie.
I hit all of my like inner childhood needs in like the best way possible and it was so
much fun.
Like you completely understand at the end why Andy would be obsessed with Buzz Lightyear.
Like I told you after I saw this movie I wanted to go buy a Buzz Lightyear.
Yeah it's like that's what you want out of it.
It was so much fun and like I said it was such a surprise of a movie.
I didn't have super high hopes for this movie until like some of the trailers started coming
out and I'm like I almost had no interest seeing this movie.
I knew I was gonna say just because the Toy Story.
Yeah I knew I was gonna see it eventually.
I didn't think I was gonna be like opening weekend or anything even though technically
it still wasn't but that's because I work on weekends.
Opening week.
Yeah like I thought I was gonna wait until it came out on Disney Plus to watch it.
Like that's how little interest I had when it got announced and then once they started
revealing a little bit more I was like okay I can get behind this.
I can get behind this and thinking like okay I'll go see it in theaters and then it yeah
this blew me away.
This absolutely blew me away.
We still have I feel we definitely need to watch this on VR with the whole like you know
like they have like that all straight up.
Yeah oh that's gonna look so cool.
Oh that'd be the best.
Dude I'm so down for that.
I'm so down.
Just gotta wait till it comes to Disney Plus so you can actually get a good copy of it.
Yeah for real.
Alright so yeah like I said giving it a 90 which averages us out to a 90 and with that
that concludes this week's breakdown and the final All Bros letter grade for light year
has come to a B plus.
Hell yeah.
Yeah a really really strong B plus.
It is not far away at all from being an A minus.
That makes me happy.
Yeah so let's see where it's where it's sitting at.
Alrighty so light year sitting at a B plus which is at an 89.43 percent.
Yeah so it's it's up there.
So that puts it below the Matrix Revolutions which is at an 89.53.
Puts it below Black Widow which is at an 89.62.
Puts it below Better Watch Out which is at an 89.72.
Puts it below Ghostbusters Afterlife which is at an 89.75 and then puts it below De5
Bloods which is at an 89.8.
Alright.
Then going the opposite direction puts it above Ready or Not which is at an 89.40.
Puts it above our original Spider-Man Far From Home score which is at an 89.35.
Puts it above Black Panther which was at an 89.34.
Puts it above Knives Out which was at an 89.31 and then finally puts it above Rise of the
Planet of the Apes which is at an 89.25.
Not bad at all.
Yeah definitely not bad and like most of our B plus movies the margins here are really
freaking tight.
Like I don't even know how many movies you have to go down to get like a full percentage
away.
Damn.
Yeah like you have to go down 11 movies before you get a full percentage.
Holy shit.
Yeah and then going up.
Yeah going up you have like a lot.
Like it's the movie it's like the same thing.
Like movies before you even get to like a full percentage.
I want to try something real quick.
Alright so just for shits and giggles to get a full percentage away from Lightyear going
up you have to go up 16 movies.
Holy shit.
And that is cracking like A minus territory.
God damn.
That's 1%.
That is a 1% difference.
17 or 16 movies fall in that category.
Wow.
Yeah it's insane.
So like the so it's crazy.
So it's Lightyear and 1917 are 1% difference from each other.
Okay wow.
So I love that.
Absolutely love that.
Yeah that's great.
Yeah.
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Shit okay.
Yeah and it was actually like a pretty so kind of a spoiler alert if you haven't seen
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You remember how we were saying that the relationship between Maverick and Penny Benjamin was kind
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Yes.
So they actually pointed out that Penny Benjamin was the Admiral's daughter that was referenced
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Oh that makes a lot more sense now.
Right?
Well thank you whoever pointed that out.
Yeah.
Makes me like the movie more now.
Yeah it helps.
I mean not a lot because we didn't see Penny Benjamin but still like.
Yeah still loved it.
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Next week we will finally be breaking down the bad guys.
Two months later.
I don't even know how long it's been since we've done this.
No it's only been a few weeks.
Okay phew.
Because we were supposed to break it down when I talked with DJ.
So two weeks ago?
Three if you're counting.
Yeah if you count this week it's three weeks.
So yeah.
We will finally be breaking down the bad guys so you guys can look forward to that next
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