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Let's get ready DJ.

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God damn it Vic.

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What's up bros, I'm Jonathan.

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And I'm Caleb.

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And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the All Bros.

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This week on the podcast we actually have a special guest.

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Vic.

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What's up guys?

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God damn it.

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What's up?

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So yeah, we're joined by Vic from Crash and Taz Movie Cellar.

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Once again, you know, the unannounced fourth host, even though he just keeps moving down the list.

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I was grandfathered in.

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I was grandfathered into that third host package.

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Technically even counting the original episodes that you were on, DJ has been on more episodes than you.

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Here's the thing though is when you want to look at things in terms of quantity versus quality.

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I would say that, you know, I would say that, you know, our context, all of the context for our shows alone are still, you know.

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DJ, are you going to take this?

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Take it.

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We're going to take it, bro.

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I guess he's holding it back for just a little longer.

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Straight up dry dog and raw dog in it, bro.

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That's it, bro.

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Take it from the third host.

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Dude, now I want to go back and see whose episodes have been listened to more.

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Let's be real though.

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It was probably it's probably his because a lot of the shows I've been on before, like, I feel like you guys were on the up climb still.

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So anybody that would have met you, they probably you know what I mean?

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Like when I find new podcasts, I don't listen from the beginning on.

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It's kind of like I'll go maybe a month back or so or whatever.

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So I feel like, you know, they'll probably hear a lot more of his because he's the more recent ones.

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I think he just called our old stuff shit.

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No, no, no.

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I'm just kidding.

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I'm saying it all.

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Well, that's like that's something about our show.

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Like if it was like a conversation format, I think that would be one thing.

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But ours is like movies.

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So people can go back and listen to whatever movie they want to listen to.

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I guess you're right.

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But I think once they once you realize, no, you're right.

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You're right.

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I guess maybe I don't give enough time to most podcasts like when I'm listening.

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Once I hear something like that, the reference is pretty dated, which is like give or take two weeks.

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And I know like, oh, shit, I've got to I've got to now like go back or like I don't know.

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There's like no surprises at that point.

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But you're right. Because those are conversational podcasts.

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I would say I would say you're right.

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I think people could definitely go back and listen to the beginning one.

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So I'll save you the time.

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Then ours probably have the most listens again.

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So DJ is really holding back.

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I'm impressed.

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I'm really, really waiting for him to jump on guys.

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OK, DJ, I know you're looking at here this episode, but I should you not took me like 45 minutes to even get my stuff working.

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And then not only that, I'm thinking I'm thinking DJ is going to jump out as they're introducing their guest.

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You know, it wouldn't be that original because again, the shows I'm on, it's it's quality versus the quantity there.

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But, you know, so that surprise really got you.

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But, you know, I'm not going to lie.

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I've been waiting for karma to bite me in the ass with that.

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Yeah, I feel like we just created a a wall of just paranoia with you to do straight.

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I've always going to think whenever I'm on your show that he's going to just pop up.

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He's going to pop up.

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And then not only that, I was listening to his most recent episode and he he jokes about saying that they want to go see Love and Thunder.

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And then his wife is like, we haven't seen that.

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And I'm like, shit, is he joking?

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And again, this might be this is like an hour or two hours or so before I'm about to record with you guys.

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So I'm listening to this and I'm hearing it.

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And, you know, she's like, we haven't seen this.

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And I'm like, motherfucker, is this guy joking or is he like, is he trying to like plant these seeds of doubt or even fear that he's just going to pop up like psych?

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I actually did watch it.

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I'm here on the all bros.

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You know, here's number four.

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You know, that's what I'm thinking, bro.

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I'm thinking like, like, surprise, cohost number four is here.

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And then, you know, it's like, oh, hey, what's up, number four?

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You know, that's what I'm thinking is going to happen while you guys are about to introduce me and stuff.

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What's up, the real number three?

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I mean, I guess I guess we're, you know, we're a few minutes into this episode already.

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So if he hasn't jumped out by now and, you know.

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Yeah, I swear, I want to get both of you to record like just a random intro so I can play it whenever you guys are on.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm high enough right now that once we're done, I will probably do that for you.

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Do not worry.

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Do not worry.

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And I want you to play mine every time that DJ is on with you guys.

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That's what I want.

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That is exactly what I want.

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Oh, my God.

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And I'll specifically say, what's up, guys?

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Here's host number four, DJ, joining you with the Albros on whatever platform you're listening on.

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And then cue the classic Disney, you know, Magic Wand thing to make the Disney Channel thing.

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And there it is.

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And then, boom, DJ is going to be like, well.

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Have you guys like seen the behind the scenes video of that?

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Oh, my God.

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Dude, those are so awkward.

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Dude, especially like most of the time, they're not even frickin drawing the actual Mickey ears.

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They're just like, oh, just scribble in the frickin air.

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Those are my favorite videos to watch when they like actually track where the wand is going.

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Wow.

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Oh, boy.

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Anyway, on this week's episode, we got one item to talk about with a 4K spotlight.

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And it's actually a movie we literally broke down a couple of weeks ago.

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Like, holy shit, this was fast.

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We got nothing for food.

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Was it a couple of weeks ago?

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I feel like it was five weeks ago.

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That's still a that's that's less than a month.

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That's that's a little over a month.

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That is true.

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I want to I want to go see like opening weekend.

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Yeah, you did.

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So holy shit.

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So we'll be talking about that.

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And then we got nothing for through the wall.

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When was the last time we actually did talk about something for through the wall?

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Do you know?

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No, like they don't really shit new like for news anymore.

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That's true.

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Hopefully next week, we'll have a trailer to talk to you guys about if what happens

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or hopefully what I've been told happens, we'll have some things to discuss.

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So look forward to that.

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And then we'll move it on to our headliner of the evening, which will be our breakdown of Thor Love and Thunder.

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Hell, yeah.

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So, gentlemen, what do you say we get started?

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So let's do it.

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Let's do it.

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So hold on.

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Hold on.

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I thought DJ's voice was about to pop on there or something.

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I truly was.

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There is a there is a true paranoia that was created on that episode.

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I want you to know that there truly was there truly is.

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And I love it.

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Dude, I've been asking.

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I've been asking him and the rest of the Inner Circle Network for a fricking like promos and shit to play.

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And no one's fricking sent me any.

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Awesome bullshit.

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I know.

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Fricking pisses me off.

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I'm like I have like four that I cycle through.

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I have angry dad Ben's who I just played.

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I have Brucker's the autopsy of a horror movie.

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The it's kind of funny that all four of the shows I have promos for DJ has some sort of like relationship with because angry dad is part of the Inner Circle Network that are the Inner Circle Podcast Network that DJ is a part of.

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I have Brucker autopsy of a horror movie who is DJ's unofficial or basically his rival for the shit that he was talking on Scott Pilgrim.

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I have you.

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And then I have the mixed media forest podcast which I think DJ and and that guy are buddies.

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So like this show is just basically like a side piece of untrained eye.

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You guys get around or they pass you around I guess.

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Yeah, I think that might be the case.

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You're like the communal the communal joint, if you will, like, you know, puff puff pass puff puff pass the Albers around.

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It's not bad.

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Yeah, it's not a bad deal.

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You too.

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I swear.

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Anyway, moving on to a 4k spotlight.

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We got a huge movie coming out this week one that both I both Caleb and I loved and that is the Bob's Burgers movie.

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So that will be coming to 4k and Blu Ray.

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And it's actually getting a Best Buy exclusive steelbook.

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I'm actually very shocked.

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I thought this would just be getting a bare bones 4k and Blu Ray release.

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But I am very happy that it's getting a steelbook release as well.

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I already have this pre-ordered because of course it looks awesome.

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It's literally literally the whole steelbook is kind of like the outline or like the setup of the restaurant.

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And you know, it's simplistic, but I kind of like it.

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Like the outside of the restaurant or so the front is the outside and I believe the back is the alley and then the inside is the actual inside.

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Right. It's a really good idea for a steelbook.

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So that's the creative shit that every steelbook should have.

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Thank you.

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It's either like shit like that.

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They should have an artistic rendition of the of the show or movie or whatever like happened, kind of like the the unbearable weight of massive talent did.

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Like there was like an artistic rendition like, gosh.

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I freaking love that shit.

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Freaking love that shit.

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Or have people do like like their own little what's it called like send in like not commissions, but I guess like like like have the viewers make their own or design it.

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You know, like do a competition.

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Whoever wins, they get theirs like fucking used as the next steelbook.

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I wish companies would do that.

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That'd be so awesome.

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Dude, I mean, that's so sick. That's comic books with their variant covers.

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You know, they need to start doing a different artist send it and stuff.

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Well, because it's like so they're re-releasing kind of the Halloween kill steal book.

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But now instead of like being like drenched in red, Michael's like all kind of in black.

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So like they literally replaced all the red with black and has like the same thing and everything.

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But I wish that the inside artwork, because it still has like Laurie walking down the hallway, even though that scene isn't in the theatrical cuts and the extended cut.

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I wish it would be when Michael's walking out of the house as it's on fire because they have amazing shots of that.

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Just put that in the steelbook. That'd be amazing.

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That is seriously one of my favorite shots ever.

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Michael Myers like, oh, my God, I get freaking chills just watching him walk out of that house slow mo.

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I know this has nothing to do with Bob's Burgers, but I get freaking chills when I see Michael Myers just walk out of that house.

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It's so badass. But anyway, Bob's Burgers movie.

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Go pick it up on 4K, please.

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This movie deserves the love because unfortunately did not do well at the box office and it sucks because this is a great TV to movie adaptation.

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Did it really not?

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No, the budget was like twenty five million and only made twenty million.

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Dude, that sucks.

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I know. That movie was so good.

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But a lot of people have said that may be the case, but they feel that it's going to find its home on streaming, which I agree.

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I feel it really will. And also, it's honestly a miracle that for how much developmental hell that Bob's Burgers movie went through that it actually even got released.

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I'm so glad it did. That movie deserved it.

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Oh yeah, so good. Have you watched it yet, Vic?

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I haven't seen it yet.

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You son of a bitch.

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Dude, well it's on Hulu.

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Rose is out to get me, man.

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It's on Hulu and it's on Easter.

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Listen, hold on. Let me publicly apologize, Rose, for not being able to make it to the last two appointed movies that we've been scheduled.

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Pretty sure it was the last three.

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Was it three? Hold on.

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I want to point out that Caleb holds more of a grudging instu with that, not me.

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Probably.

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Hold up. You were supposed to be on for...

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Doctor Strange.

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Yeah, where the hell is Doctor Strange?

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I don't think I was on for No Way Home.

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Oh no, you were supposed to be on for Doctor Strange, you were supposed to be on for Morbius, and then you were supposed to be on for No Way Home, but you sent in your scores.

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The only reason you're on that freaking artwork is because I needed it.

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And then you were supposed to be on for Black Widow, and I don't think you were on there for that one.

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Damn man, that was a whole summer ago.

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Yeah.

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Wow, Vic.

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And then... were you on for Shang-Chi?

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I swear he was.

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I think I was. I think I was on that one.

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Yeah, okay, so we'll forgive that one.

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And then you did the untrained movie seller with DJ doing Far From Home.

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That's right, that's right. And it still did worse.

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In all my efforts to get it higher, it made it worse.

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Dude, there's been a couple movies since where it's been a little bit higher than yours and DJ's score.

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Or the new updated one, so every time I bring up the new updated score, I chuckle to myself because I'm like, the freaking DJ must be pissed, or Vic must be pissed about that.

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Oh, shit.

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But yeah, so there's been a few.

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There's been a few. So I publicly apologize, Rose. I am sorry. Life was a bitch.

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Well, just know we're putting you on the schedule for all future MCU movies.

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All right, penciled in. You are penciled into all future MCU movie recordings from now on with me. I mean, that should have been the case. I kind of was supposed to be, but like I said, life, life, man, life.

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Yeah.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah, so next one.

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We're here for Thor.

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What's the next one? Is the next one Black Panther?

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Yes.

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Yes, November.

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Hell yeah.

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So, yeah.

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See you there, DJ.

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Oh shit.

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All right, so, see, see, Vic, it's on Hulu and HBO Max, so you better go watch it.

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All right.

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All right, man.

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I'll do whatever it takes to make it up to you, Rose.

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Okay, you know what, that's all it's gonna take is just watch the Bob's Burgers movie.

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Wait a minute, let me ask you one question then. Hold on.

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How many episodes are you in on Avatar the Last Airbender?

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All right, moving on.

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I haven't picked up.

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Oh my god.

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It's all right.

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Okay, I take back. You don't have to watch the Bob's Burgers movie.

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I would say it's all right, but I know Caleb's gonna say it's not all right.

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No, it's not.

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I know.

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And we've gone into very long tangents on this. I keep interrupting you.

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Yeah, it's been that long.

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Well, before I get yelled at anymore, I'm kidding.

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What do you say we move into our headliner? I almost said breakdown.

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Headliner of the evening.

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Let's do it.

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I say taste my hammer.

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All right, so if you guys are new to our...

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Fuck, I'm already fucking this up.

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To our breakdown system. God damn it.

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If you are new to our podcast and don't know how our breakdown system works, Caleb, would you like to let everyone know how we do things on this podcast?

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Yes, I would.

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We split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final, all bros, and crash and taz movie seller letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.

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All of those numbers get magically added up and spits out a letter grade for us to look at to compare to other movies.

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I wish people could see what Vixx is doing with his hands.

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Are you doing some sign language shit?

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No, I can't sign with this shit.

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I was going to say, like, dude, that's impressive.

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Because I don't know jack shit of sign language.

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I know bacon and cookie. That's it.

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Have you ever, have you been on our show since I set up the soundboard thing?

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I want to say yes. You've had it for a while.

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Yeah, I feel like I have.

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I think even when we surprised DJ, you had it like that too.

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Did I?

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I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

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Because I know at least the last few episodes I haven't had to wait for your cues that we used to give.

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Okay. That surprises me. I don't feel like I've had it that long.

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But I know. It's crazy how much time actually has passed.

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Yeah, no kidding.

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Cool. Anyway.

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If you have not seen Thor Love and Thunder, we are about to spoil the entire frickin movie for you.

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So if you listen past this point and anything gets spoiled for you, it is your own damn fault.

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So with that, Rose is going to read off the synopsis and we'll get into our breakdown.

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Alright, let's read the story for the worst Thor movie. I'm kidding.

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Dude, I will kill you.

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Got him.

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I move to have Jonathan Rose demoted to co-host number three.

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Oh wow. Okay.

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Just because you guys like this movie is more than me.

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That's a top three decision.

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Wow. Okay.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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I don't know why, but it feels like this just like skipped a shit ton of stuff.

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But I know I don't think it did.

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I don't think it did either. Yeah, I don't think it has.

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Yeah, I think it covered everything.

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Well, shit. Okay.

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Meanwhile, Dr. Jane Foster, Thor's ex-girlfriend, has been diagnosed with stage four terminal cancer.

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With medical treatment proving ineffective, she travels to New Asgard hoping that Thor's fractured hammer, Mjolnir, might heal her.

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Due to an enchantment Thor unknowingly placed on her years earlier to protect Foster, Mjolnir reforges and bonds itself to her.

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Thor arrives in New Asgard just as Gorr's attack begins.

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Thor is surprised to find Foster wielding Mjolnir, but nevertheless teams up with her, Valkyrie, and Korg to fight Gorr.

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The group thwarts Gorr, but he escapes, kidnapping several Asgardian children and imprisoning them in the Shadow Realm.

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The group travels to Omnipotent City, a realm that is home to many gods, to warn them and ask for their help.

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The leader of the gods, Zeus, fears Gorr and is unwilling to help, thinking they can remain safe and hidden from Gorr in the city.

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Zeus orders the groups captured to prevent them from exposing the city's location to Gorr, and in the ensuing fight, Korg's body is destroyed, though his face remains alive.

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Thor impales Zeus with his own thunderbolt, which Valkyrie steals before they escape.

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As the journey continues, Thor and Foster rekindle their romantic relationship, and Foster reveals her illness.

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The group arrives at the Shadow Realm, but are unable to find the children. Foster deduces that the kidnappings were a trap for Gorr to take Thor's axe, Stormbreaker, in order to summon the Bifrost and enter the Realm of Eternity, who can grant his wish to destroy all gods.

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Gorr overpowers the group, severely injuring Valkyrie. The group retreats back to Earth, though Gorr manages to steal Stormbreaker.

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Drained of her strength each time she uses Mjolnir, Foster is warned that using it once more will likely kill her.

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Thor persuades Foster to let him fight Gorr alone, while she recuperates. Thor finds the kidnapped children at Eternity's altar, and using Zeus's thunderbolt, imbues them with his power to fight Gorr's monsters while he battles Gorr.

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Thor and Thor are both killed by Thor, but Thor is not the only one who is killed by Thor.

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Thor and Thor are both killed by Thor, but Thor is not the only one who is killed by Thor.

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Thor and Thor are both killed by Thor, but Thor is not the only one who is killed by Thor.

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I wonder, because Thor was able to enchant that because he's technically now the Allfather, does that mean that those things are still out there?

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I'd have to go back and listen to what the enchantment is that he puts on him, but does that mean that those toys and that rabbit is still out there with that charm? Like used as a weapon? Like it's a potential weapon out there?

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No, because he said temporarily.

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Okay, okay. That's what I'm saying. I'd have to go back and listen.

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Yeah, so I don't think he, like it's an Allfather only ability to use the, because if you think about it, like they did a flashback before Ragnarok when Thor and Jain were still together, and he was talking to Mjolnir and like unknowingly placed that.

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Well that's, yeah, and I mean that's, I guess I'm confusing MCU logic with like their comic book logic. So that's where I'm, I guess I'm making the mistake is I'm mixing the two, you know?

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Yeah. So it just kind of seems like, or at least how it came off to me that that's just something Asgardians are able to do.

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Yeah. I guess, I guess that would, I guess that would make sense. Like I said, I'm more basing it off of like the comic book versus the movie, like the MCU version.

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Yeah. Which I talked about it in, in our Multiverse of Madness discussion, but I do not like that they listed this universe as 616. Or 616.

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Yeah. I mean, I agree with you, because, well to an extent, because that means if they're gonna, if they're gonna list it as that, like you want very comic accurate renditions, you know, just, just so that it's, it feels the same.

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I know we were talking about like Ms. Marvel a little while ago and stuff, like how they, you know, they have those, those differences from the, you know, from the comic book.

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But, you know, I'm sure theatrically and even visually they have their, their reasons, but, you know, I agree. If they're gonna be like listed as that universe, you kind of want that, that comic book accuracy.

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Yeah. I know this is completely off topic, but have you seen those, those things, or like interviews or whatever where people have talked about the actress for Ms. Marvel, like getting in verbal arguments with Kevin Feige?

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No. Like, so she, so she went to go, like during their, like their post-production stuff, or it was like some, like filming that they had to do, it was after Multi, or yeah, after Multiverse of Madness came out.

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And so she went to go see the movie and then like brought it up to him and was just like, hey, the MCU can't be Earth-616 and like listed all the reasons why. And then they were like having like a big back and forth with each other.

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I'm like, I freaking love that. Right. And then he was giving her a hard time for watching WandaVision on her phone and like, just like, it seems like such a fun relation.

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I mean, hopefully he's not like actually pissed off about it, but it seems like they give each other a hard time and just kind of fun.

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Yeah, that's awesome.

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By the way, getting back into Love and Thunder, did you finish your, your thing?

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You did not.

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Did you finish? You can continue on with it. I'm done laughing about the Asgardian children.

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After I was so rudely interrupted.

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Just kidding.

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Caleb?

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Shit, I forgot where I was.

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God damn it, Caleb.

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Sorry.

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Okay, we're going to start the paragraph over again.

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Drained of her strength, each time she uses Mjolnir, Foster is warned that using it once more will likely kill her.

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Thor persuades Foster to let him fight Gorr alone while she recuperates.

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Thor finds the kidnapped children at Eternity's altar and uses Zeus's thunderbolt, imbues them with his power to fight Gorr's monsters while he battles Gorr.

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Excuse me.

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When Foster senses that Gorr is about to kill Thor, she joins the battle with Mjolnir to save him.

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They destroy the Necro Sword, freeing Gorr from its influence, but the three are brought into Eternity's realm.

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With Gorr poised to make his wish, Thor implores Gorr to revive his daughter instead of destroying the gods.

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Thor then leaves Gorr to make his decision and attends to Foster, who succumbs to her illness.

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Moved by their display, Gorr wishes for Eternity to revive love which it grants.

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As Gorr dies from the curse, he requests Thor to care for love.

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Korg's body is restored and he starts a family, while Foster's sacrifice is honored in New Asgard where Valkyrie and Sif begin training the children.

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Thor adopts love, who joins him in his heroics with the former wielding Mjolnir and the latter wielding Stormbreaker.

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In a mid-credits scene, a recuperating Zeus sends his son Hercules to kill Thor.

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And in another post-credits scene, Foster arrives at the gates of Ahala, where she is welcomed by Heimdall.

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Dude, I have not been impressed with the MCU end credits scenes for a while.

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Because these actually are going somewhere. They're not just there.

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Like, the end credits scene for...

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With No Way Home being just a trailer for Multiverse of Madness really pissed me off.

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And then the one with Multiverse of Madness ending with that one pizza dude stopping to punch his face.

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Well yeah, but that's classic Sam Raimi though. He had to work that in.

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I know. But still, I wasn't super thrilled about it.

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This one, even if they take it nowhere.

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Like, if we never see Jane again and it's just knowing that she went to Valhalla, I'm so happy with that scene.

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Awesome on you.

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I agree.

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But, like, such a good...

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But I'm happy with that scene also because... Have you read this run? Did you, Caleb, did you read it at all?

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I have not read this run yet.

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Oh my god. You are missing out, sir.

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The one, the art in this comic run is freaking fantastic.

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And then the story, the movie and the comic book run for this, it's insanely close.

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Like, they kept to a lot.

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Like, if you read the Thor God of Thunder run, you know, with Gore and all that.

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And then you read the Mighty Thor with Jane Foster.

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And then you watch the movie.

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There's a lot that they pulled in from that run and it is amazing how they brought them to life.

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I love when they do that.

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Oh yeah.

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I'm telling you, read at least those two runs.

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And, like, if you can think back on the movie, you're going to see a lot of similarities from the book.

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Like, bringing panels to life, galore with these things.

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I'm not even exaggerating. It's really awesome.

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Yeah. Oh, dude.

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But, sorry, sorry. Hold on.

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Back to my point was, that's why I'm happy with the whole Valhalla thing at the end.

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Because that's part of the end.

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There's, I want to say, like, three books.

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It's like three parts for the death of Jane Foster.

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There's three or four.

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But they have her, like, walking into Valhalla.

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But she's greeted by Odin, I believe, in that one.

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If I'm not mistaken.

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That would have been really cool too.

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But, I mean, seeing Heimdall, not upset about that at all.

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No, no, no, no. Not at all.

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Not at all.

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Dude, they did so much cool shit with this movie.

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Like, not just with the movie itself, like the behind the scenes stuff.

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Like, I love that they incorporate, like, the actors and a lot of the cast's kids.

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Yeah.

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Like, Taika Waititi, like, we'll get into this with effects,

443
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but Taika Waititi said that the kids were the ones that were actually designed the Shadow Demons.

444
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Oh.

445
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:17,000
And then he just took those pic- yeah, so he just took those pictures to their, like, the arts department.

446
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000
It was just like, hey, animate this.

447
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:25,000
And he says that they were so much scarier than anything anyone could have come up with.

448
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
That is so cool.

449
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,000
Because, I mean, think of the imagination of a child.

450
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Like, what they're gonna, you know, they're gonna make something that's just freaking out of this world, you know what I mean?

451
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:43,000
You know, versus giving it to those animators, giving them that task, and they're gonna set limitations and stuff.

452
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,000
But, you know, holy shit, man. Yeah, I can imagine.

453
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,000
Yeah, and then just, like, a bunch of various other things that they had.

454
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Like, I know Chris Hemsworth had some- like, his daughter was the one that played Love.

455
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Mm-hmm.

456
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
So it was just kind of like he was-

457
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:11,000
his son played him, like, as the kid running, one of the kids running in there.

458
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Really?

459
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,000
I believe that was one of- yeah, that was, I think, his son in there.

460
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
Yeah, I think they said that when, like, the first trailer came out.

461
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Yeah.

462
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Dude, that's aw- I thought it was the- for some reason, I thought it was, like, a nephew that was playing, like, the teenage Thor.

463
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
No, I think it's the kid. I think it's the kid one.

464
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Like, the first one running?

465
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
It's like one of the first two, yeah.

466
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,000
And they, um- hold on, let's see.

467
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I'll look more- look into this more right now, because I want to know which one it was too now.

468
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,000
But, yeah, they, uh- they used- one of those kids is his.

469
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Yeah, but, like, so cool. I love that they incorporated that.

470
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:03,000
I love that they- like, I just love everything that they- they did with this.

471
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,000
It was, like, I feel is really well- well done.

472
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,000
But getting into, like, the actual, like, breakdown and not just- not just pining over this movie.

473
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Um, what did you guys think of the- of the story overall?

474
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,000
And I'm interested to hear what you have to say about it, Rose, since you didn't like this nearly as much as- as I did.

475
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:44,000
The problem that I have with this story is that I feel, um, when they try to do something serious, it's over- what's the word?

476
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Like, a joke is, like, like, income- incomes right after.

477
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
And so, the dramatic parts kind of- just kind of lose it.

478
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
I feel they could have just lingered those on a little bit more.

479
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Like, don't get me wrong, they did a very good job handling Jane Foster's, you know, cancer with stage four.

480
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:09,000
But I feel it really- it really wasn't given- at least to me, um, I feel with cancer it should be given more attention.

481
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Um, and it wasn't really up until, like, the actual ending when she was about to die.

482
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Like, when she was literally on her deathbed at the hospital.

483
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Hmm. Can I- can I time out real quick? Let me- let me rewind you guys.

484
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
So, a few of Chris Hemsworth's kids were actually in this.

485
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,000
Um, his son, Sasha, is playing an Asgardian child.

486
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Uh, his brother, Tristan, played the younger version of Thor.

487
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:42,000
And then, uh, yeah, the- the daughter, like you said, was, uh, uh, what's it called?

488
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Was Love.

489
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Yeah.

490
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000
So, and they- like, actually-

491
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Was that her name?

492
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
The actor's- uh, what's that?

493
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Yeah, it was her name.

494
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000
That was- that was her name? Like, I thought she was just Gore's daughter.

495
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
No, he- he- no, it says that, yeah, her- her name is Love.

496
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Is that what they have her listed as on there? Like, credit her?

497
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Yup.

498
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Really? Huh.

499
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:14,000
But yeah, I guess Natalie Portman, Taika Waititi, a lot of these guys, a lot of their kids were in it. That's really cool.

500
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Yeah. I- I freaking love shit like that. It kind of makes it feel even more like a family film.

501
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Mm-hmm.

502
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Um, I love the- like, a picture that Chris Hemsworth posted of hi- of him on- on set, like, in costume and everything, re- like, waiting to be- to film a scene for Dark World with his daughter.

503
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Like, sitting down in, like, the gravel on- like, on set. And he's, like, sitting there, like, just doing some- some weird shit.

504
00:40:52,000 --> 00:41:04,000
And then he's, like- like, has a picture with her, like, working on set for Love and Thunder, and he's just, like- like, this is a dream come true.

505
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:18,000
And I- like, I love shit like that. I'm- I'm, like, such a big family person, and so seeing people get to work with their families, like, really makes me happy.

506
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Um.

507
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Yeah, I think that's- I think it's cool that they were able to do that, though.

508
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,000
No, it was awesome.

509
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Yeah. So you- you felt like they didn't give enough attention to Jane's cancer, Rose?

510
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:40,000
I don't know, I- I would have liked just a little bit more. Um.

511
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:55,000
Maybe- that might just be for, um, having dealt with a family member that has had stage four cancer. Um, so when it comes to that, I want them to, like, really drive it home that this shit is really frickin' serious.

512
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Like, literally, it's the final stage. Literally, unless this chemo works, you- I'm sorry, you're at- you're at the end game. That- that's- that- this is it.

513
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Well, I feel like they- they made that pretty, like, pretty well known. Like, with, like, how serious the- the cancer was affecting her when she was in the hospital, like, right before Thor went off to fight Gore.

514
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Like, she was- he was just like, you can't pick up the hammer anymore, otherwise you'll- you'll die. And then, like, the scene when he sees her flying in, like, he does- has this, like, look on his face where he's, like, almost relieved.

515
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:49,000
But then, like, you kind of see that moment of realization where he's like, oh shit, like, this is it.

516
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:56,000
No, no, I absolutely- no, like, everything, like, from the hospital on, at that point, is really good.

517
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Oh, it's just like before?

518
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Yeah. I- I- and, you know, I get it, they had more story to tell, and this might just be me nitpicking.

519
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Honestly, I felt this movie just needed to be so much longer.

520
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Like, I know Tygoatidi said, oh yeah, we're not doing a director's cut, but literally, like, we filmed, like, a four hour movie, and it's less than two hours.

521
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Hmm.

522
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Yeah. I think part of the- maybe part of the issue, too, with them not want- like, getting it too deep into Jane's cancer, is she was- she was kind of like- she was the one kind of pushing it off, like, not really wanting to tell anyone.

523
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,000
And then it was like, once she told Thor, it became a bigger part.

524
00:43:46,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Yeah. In your guys' opinion, cause I- I'm starting to feel this way, do you think that they are making Thor way too goofy in the MCU? Like, you can't take him serious anymore?

525
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,000
That is an excellent question.

526
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Cause after watching this movie- don't get me wrong, I laughed my ass off. I enjoyed the comedy, I still enjoy Thor's comedic parts, but a part of me misses what we got from him in the first Thor, for how dramatic he was, for how serious he was.

527
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:37,000
He was still funny, but he still had those dramatic moments. And I don't think we got really- I think we got some of those at the end, which, you know, I really- like, honestly, the ending with, like, him, Gore, and Jane, I love that scene.

528
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:48,000
That is some great, um, film- oh my god, I'm like, butchering this so bad. That is a- oh my- jeez, little- frickin' Louise.

529
00:44:48,000 --> 00:45:08,000
That's just a great scene in general. There we go, that's what we're gonna go with. But, other parts in this movie with Thor, I- just- I don't- he felt too s- I don't wanna say stupid, cause Thor's not stupid, but it literally felt like his-

530
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:26,000
He's- to me, from where we've reached now with Thor 4, he's almost like nothing like we originally had him in the first two movies, which I get, you know, like, Taika Waititi tried to bring new life to the character, but I still want Thor to be at least a little serious.

531
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Now you know exactly how I feel about the Hulk.

532
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Yeah, okay.

533
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:41,000
I- I- Well, shit, I didn't think it was gonna be Thor, but yeah, it's frickin' Thor.

534
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:48,000
I get what you mean, though, cause, I mean, you compare- you compare the first Thor to something like this, or even Ragnarok.

535
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Like, it- it's not as Shakespearean as you have in the first Thor, you know? I- I get what you're saying.

536
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Um, but I- I think too, that's to make them more- I think that's more on, like, the studios part, just trying to make them more appealing for younger viewers, too.

537
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000
That's a good point.

538
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Which, I mean, it's- I think that's more of, like, their-

539
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:29,000
I don't know, can't you still make, you know, like, the real life- the real Thor, can't you still make that kind of entertaining, um, for kids?

540
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:40,000
I mean, I think- I think, like you said, they managed to do a good job with it in the first one, like, he has some pretty funny, you know, lines just cause of how naive he is.

541
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Um, I think the closest that I've seen to what I would expect from him, like, in a comic version would be, um, in Ragnarok when he's talking to, like- when he's talking to Doctor Strange.

542
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:02,000
You know, like, I think that's as funny as he'd get- like, as he should get, I agree with you.

543
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,000
You know, where he's like, you could have sent an electronic mail, it's called an email.

544
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,000
You know, and he's- that's when he's asked, like, do you have a computer? He goes, no, what for?

545
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Like, that's something where it's like, okay, I kind of would expect something like that in the comic, too.

546
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:25,000
But I get what you're saying, like, that's- that's the kind of humor that's as close to the first movie as you'd get with- with those- with the more recent ones.

547
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:31,000
But I know what you're saying, they are- it seems like they are trying to make him too much of a goofy character.

548
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:49,000
And I think- I think, again, that's more of, like, like a marketing plot just to make, you know, again, younger viewers actually just more- a broader, um, group of viewers to, like, really like him and want to purchase his- his merchandise, you know?

549
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000
That's a good point.

550
00:47:51,000 --> 00:48:13,000
I think with- with Thor from the first one, like, yesterday, like, like, Thor in there, he was like a perfect- I think he could have been a little bit more funny in the first one, but it was very, like, Shakespeare-y, like you- like you said, Vic, a little- like, slightly Shakespeare-y and had a little bit of humor.

551
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:27,000
And I think where- where the- the movies after went wrong with The Dark World, I think they went too far to the Shakespearean side.

552
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:38,000
And then with Thor Ragnarok, they pushed him to a point, like, I think Thor Ragnarok pushed Thor to a point where he became more interesting.

553
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Yeah.

554
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:47,000
And then this movie just pushed him a little bit too far on that same direction.

555
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,000
On the comic.

556
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Yeah.

557
00:48:49,000 --> 00:49:07,000
Yeah, cause, like, the Thor that we have in the first Thor versus this Thor, I do not see the first- or, like, the Love and Thunder Thor winning over Jane like he did in the first one.

558
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:20,000
Cause he was, like, talk- like, with that Shakespearean speech and talking about, like, the nine realms and, like, like, basically seducing her with his words.

559
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Like, there's no way in hell that Love and Thunder Thor would do- could do that.

560
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Like, he- like, I want- I still want the Thor that is able to inspire armies and inspire, like, this group of ragtag people to come and, like, join him on this quest that they know is doomed for failure.

561
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Versus, like, he wasn't able to convince anyone to do anything when he was at the god realm.

562
00:49:53,000 --> 00:50:11,000
And it's because he, like, he stumbles over his words and he's super awkward and it's just, like, the Thor in the first one seduced Jane with his words and just because he's frickin' hot.

563
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
I was gonna say his knowledge, but okay.

564
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
Yeah, and then, sure.

565
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:23,000
And then in Love and Thunder he did it with, like, awkwardness.

566
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,000
And it's just, like I said, I think they just pushed him way too far to the right.

567
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:57,000
I think using the Ragnarok to kind of launch him forward, or, like, launch him, like, the different direction than they were going with Dark World, if they would have just stuck there and done what they did with him in Infinity War, I won't say endgame because I feel like they pushed him a little too far into endgame, into the comedic realm too.

568
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
Even though I did really like Fat Thor.

569
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000
I would disagree though.

570
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
You think they pushed him too, like, you don't think they pushed him?

571
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
No, I don't think so.

572
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Because what they have him portraying, like, the things that they have him portraying, you know, depression, anxiety, all that stuff, like, I think that, you know, at least as an adult, like, it could go in any different direction and he chooses, like, to go with alcohol.

573
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:39,000
But I mean, they did do it in kind of a comedic way, but I don't think that they pushed him too far yet there.

574
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Because he was still really, like, just the way he talks when he gets serious, like, when Thanos comes, when he's like, I've got to be the one, I want to do this, I'm the strongest, like, it's not, like, that's a, I feel like that's a mix of the brave, like, the Thor that inspires that you're talking about.

575
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Mixed a lot with, you know, this Thor that's going through depression, anxiety and stuff that wants to prove himself again.

576
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,000
And so I think that, like, I don't see that as comical.

577
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:19,000
Me personally, so I mean, I don't know, this could be a personal opinion, but I think that, I don't think he was pushed too far.

578
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Because like I said, when it came time to get serious, he was still really serious. Like, I didn't see him as funny when he got into battle mode for this one as much as I did in Love and Thunder.

579
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:42,000
Like, I feel even when he was fighting, there was, you know, still, I don't know, I don't want to say, I don't know, it's just not as, like, it's not the same to me.

580
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:54,000
You know, I feel like they're still, they're waiting to make a punchline for all of those right now. Like, whenever he's fighting in this one versus, like, in the end game, he was still pretty serious.

581
00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,000
And it was just the fat suit that made him kind of funny, you know.

582
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,000
But that's, I don't know, you can have your opinion, I'm just saying.

583
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000
No, that's, I mean, that's a fair point.

584
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
I can honestly agree with that.

585
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Yeah, I like what you brought up, the, I didn't, like, didn't really even think about, like, the emotions that he was portraying and, like, with depression and anxiety and all that different stuff.

586
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
So, that's a fair point.

587
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:32,000
And you think about it too, Thor's character is all about, like, that's the kind of character he is.

588
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:46,000
That's the character of redemption, you know. That even in the comic books, you know, he's sent down from Asgard still and, you know, has to still be, well, I think he just had to find the hammer, really.

589
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:56,000
But, like, you know what I mean? Like, he still has to be proven worthy and there's, you know, I feel like in all of the movies, he's kind of struggling in one way or another to prove that always.

590
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:10,000
You know, so I think, like, I think Endgame just did it well enough that it was still a good balance of the comedic and the serious.

591
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Right.

592
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000
I don't know. That's just my opinion.

593
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Also, I'm high as shit, so you just asked a very, very mind opening question right now, Rose.

594
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,000
You're welcome. You're welcome.

595
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:38,000
I think the issues that we have with, with Thor, like his characterization. I think that could definitely be more in like a writing issue than anything.

596
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,000
That's true.

597
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:52,000
Story wise, I mean, I feel like the movie had a pretty decent flow.

598
00:54:52,000 --> 00:55:06,000
I mean, I think like I think they did a good job at setting up the the opening with Gore and like understandably like why he wants to kill all the gods.

599
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,000
And I'll be honest, like the opening scene almost made me tear like cry.

600
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,000
I'm sure.

601
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,000
Because I was, I was like thinking of like that same thing.

602
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Just like, oh, he's praying to this God that's supposed to bless him with this eternal reward.

603
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,000
He goes and meets that God face to face and is basically like, oh, look at this thing.

604
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,000
It's like it's eating my fruit.

605
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
And you want to you want to hear.

606
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:44,000
Let me ask you this because you can relate on a couple of different levels with this one.

607
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,000
So I think they did a good job.

608
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:55,000
I agree. They did a good job with with how they showed him like grow his hate for the gods.

609
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:04,000
But in the books, his mother dies and they're always telling him, pray to the gods, pray to the gods.

610
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:11,000
And then his wife actually dies as well, kind of like in the scenario that they're in in the movie.

611
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,000
You know, so the wife dies.

612
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,000
I don't think she was pregnant.

613
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
I think she was. No, she wasn't pregnant.

614
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
But they did have kids. I want to say I don't know.

615
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
I'd have to go back and read that now.

616
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,000
I think they show his wife pregnant at some point.

617
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,000
The same thing. And then he loses he loses, I think, his kids, too.

618
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:38,000
But he like insane like the level of heavy in the comic for that, I think they they matched it up pretty good.

619
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:46,000
But I think like they if they would have shown him in those other stages, it would have really like I don't know.

620
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,000
I don't know if that would have been like an overkill or if that would have just added on to it.

621
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:59,000
I think that if they would have added anyone else to like the death, I think that would have pulled away from the.

622
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:07,000
The scene of like like if he would have had to bury two people, I think it would have pulled away from just the utter heartbreak.

623
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,000
I think, yeah, the reason they went with like his daughter is because the.

624
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:22,000
I mean, I know this from personal experience, the the bond that you have with your your daughter is just.

625
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:28,000
Tight sure like it is so like fricking tight and you just.

626
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,000
You're always wanting to protect them.

627
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:40,000
And I think him being put in this situation where he wasn't able to he was praying to this God to help,

628
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,000
which I think is also like a big thing for for dads to understand.

629
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Like, hey, I don't like I can't do this by myself.

630
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Hey, I need some assistance. And then relying on this God that ultimately betrays you.

631
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,000
I was like, yeah, fricking kill them all.

632
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,000
Like, dude, what got me is when he was like.

633
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:11,000
Like cuddle, like holding her grave, that's what fricking like just shattered my heart.

634
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:18,000
Like I was almost like I want to I need to go home and hug my daughter.

635
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000
And.

636
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:26,000
I just fricking like just rips at your your heartstrings is so fricking sad.

637
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,000
And then.

638
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000
How he gets to.

639
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,000
It's almost like he doesn't even.

640
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:42,000
Like I know he kind of hesitates at the end when he's at eternity and about to like make his wish.

641
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,000
And I know it like seems like he's trying to.

642
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Like he's hesitating on on what to wish for, like the death of the gods versus wishing his daughter back to life.

643
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:01,000
I truly believe that there was.

644
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,000
No hesitation what he was going to do.

645
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:11,000
The hesitation came with what he was concerned about after because he knew he was dying.

646
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
And he's just like.

647
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:20,000
Like I was trying to like put myself like I can relate to gore so fricking much.

648
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Like I was totally on his team. I'm like, dude, like even what I get when he was at eternity.

649
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:31,000
I'm like, whatever you want to do, bro, I'm like, I'm right behind you.

650
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,000
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, dude, read, read that comic run.

651
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,000
You have you have my my Marvel Unlimited go on there and check it out, dude.

652
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:46,000
And I think you'll still like if you're like you're saying you relate to this character in the MCU.

653
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:53,000
I think you relate to him in the comic and he is arguably one of the best, in my opinion,

654
00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:01,000
villains that I've read about in here, like his his dialogue and stuff in that in the comic is amazing.

655
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,000
It's fantastic. I think you're going to enjoy it.

656
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:09,000
I think, you know, and it'll I think it'll have you appreciate the character, too.

657
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Like I said, a lot of a lot of this a lot of this movie, like you'll see a lot of comic reference.

658
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,000
I think you'll enjoy it because of that more.

659
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:26,000
Yeah. But yeah, I don't think like I think that was just what he was struggling with,

660
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:31,000
like knowing that if he wishes her to life, he won't be there.

661
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,000
He won't be the one protecting her. Yeah.

662
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,000
And I think the hesitation came with knowing what was going to happen.

663
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:47,000
And I think as soon as Thor agreed to watch over her as his own,

664
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,000
I think that like he was set like in what he was going to do.

665
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,000
Mm hmm. Like I think he would have gone.

666
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,000
I think he would have wished her to life either way.

667
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:04,000
I don't think it like came across his mind because he was just so blinded by by anger.

668
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Blinded by the light. Yeah.

669
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:12,000
And then I think as soon as I think I forget if it was Thor or Jane that brought it up,

670
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,000
it might have been. I'm pretty sure it was Thor.

671
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,000
But as soon as Thor put that idea in his mind that he can wish his daughter back to life,

672
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,000
I knew like that's that's what he's going to do.

673
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:30,000
The hesitation is going to be like, is is this person who I have dedicated to killing his kind?

674
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:36,000
Like, can I trust him to care for my world?

675
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,000
And that that would that have been tough.

676
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,000
That have been really fricking tough.

677
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,000
But, gosh, I love I love Gore so much.

678
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,000
I loved his story. I loved everything.

679
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,000
I'm telling you, dude, read that comic.

680
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:58,000
The more I hear you talk about it here about your love for him on here, you got to read that.

681
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,000
That's your that's your homework, man.

682
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,000
You're going to read that. Rose, you keep watching Avatar.

683
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:11,000
I can't promise anything. I'm sorry to say.

684
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:15,000
I'm going to be blunt right now.

685
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,000
Wait, what? What did you say?

686
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:24,000
I said, damn it, number three.

687
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Yeah. Yeah.

688
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,000
So Gore's story.

689
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:40,000
I loved it. I love that he had the foresight to use the Asgardian children as bait.

690
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:46,000
Like knowing like because I think if anyone else would have been taken,

691
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:51,000
Thor might have been like, like, it wouldn't have like said.

692
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,000
It in stone that that Thor was going to come after him.

693
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Like they could have been like, oh, we're going to send our warriors to to fight him to get these people back.

694
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,000
But I think with the kids, it was something different, like a bigger deal.

695
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:13,000
And so I feel like that was very strategic on on Gore's part.

696
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,000
And I don't know about you guys, I don't feel like.

697
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,000
The kids were in any sort of danger.

698
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,000
Other than being like scared the shit out of.

699
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,000
No, that's a good point.

700
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000
I don't know about you guys.

701
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,000
I loved his dialogue when he was like in the cage with them.

702
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:41,000
And Heimdall's kid is sharing all these stories of of Thor and Thanos.

703
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,000
And then he comes in and like does the same thing to this like shadow demon.

704
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,000
And he's just like, what, you guys liked it like earlier?

705
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,000
I was like, oh, shit.

706
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Like, it's kind of different when it's right in front of you.

707
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:03,000
Right. But I felt like his whole goal with that was to basically destroy their faith in gods.

708
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:09,000
Like instead of it being like this awesome thing that this hero did, like showing them what it truly is like,

709
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:15,000
it shows that you kind of have to be a monster to do something like that.

710
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,000
True. So that was like what I assumed.

711
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,000
I felt like the kids were in no actual danger.

712
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:30,000
It was just Gore trying to destroy their faith in gods.

713
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:37,000
Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah.

714
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:43,000
But Thor's story, I felt was more.

715
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,000
I mean, I feel like it was kind of in your face with what it was.

716
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:55,000
It was his journey of self-discovery, like after all of his loss and everything that he's been through,

717
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:01,000
it's just kind of figuring out what his purpose is.

718
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:06,000
Like outside of being a warrior. Yeah.

719
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000
Because I mean, that's what his whole thing was.

720
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:14,000
He would sit on a mountaintop until the Guardians came and was like, hey, we need you.

721
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,000
And then he'd come kick everyone's ass and then still be sad.

722
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,000
And he's like, I need like he wants something outside of being a warrior.

723
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:31,000
And I thought that was a really interesting tale for them to share.

724
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,000
And talking about his past with Jane and like what he wanted.

725
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:41,000
I thought of about us possibly having a family.

726
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:47,000
Like it's like he had this purpose that was taken from him because he put up these walls

727
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:56,000
and he had to like learn to break those down and ultimately obtained a new role as a father figure.

728
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,000
So that's that's how I viewed the whole thing.

729
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,000
So I think that's maybe why I liked it a bit more than at least you, Rose.

730
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Well, I mean, you have a lot more to to what's it called?

731
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000
I connect with on that level.

732
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:20,000
You know what I mean? Like there's there's a you know, like for me and Rose, I mean, for us, it's a storyline.

733
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,000
You know, for you, there's another connection there because you're a dad, you know, your dad.

734
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:31,000
I mean, kind of like you said, for him, what more is there than just being a warrior, an on call warrior?

735
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:39,000
You know, you know, the next thing is, well, a dad, you know, he's he's teaching her, he's protecting her.

736
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:46,000
You know, so it's fighting side by side with her, all that stuff like, you know, so I think I think that's why, too.

737
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,000
Like it would it would definitely connect with you a lot more.

738
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:57,000
You know, yeah. But every like.

739
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,000
There was a lot that they did that I I really liked.

740
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,000
I think they kind of hung around the gods a little too much.

741
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:14,000
And some of the gods were like really irritated me, like the little the bad dumpling dumpling god.

742
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,000
Yeah, yeah, the bow.

743
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Dude, that's what he was called. He called them the bow god.

744
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,000
I didn't like Zeus until the end credits.

745
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000
His name was bow.

746
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,000
Dude, Zeus was fricking annoying.

747
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Yeah, yeah. Up until like the end credits scene with him being like, OK, well, then you know what?

748
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
Let's we're going to raise hell down on Earth.

749
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,000
I'm like, OK, this sounds cool for Thor five.

750
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,000
I OK, I'm starting to like your character. I want to see where you go with this.

751
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Yeah, up until then, like, yeah, Zeus, I'm just like, oh, my God, shut the fuck up, please.

752
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:52,000
It was it was bad.

753
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,000
I never thought I'd say that about Russell Crowe.

754
01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:00,000
Dude, his accent was horrible. Yeah. Yeah.

755
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000
Like, do you think?

756
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:09,000
I mean, do you think, though, that I mean, OK, Caleb, you've I'm sure read a lot of Hulk comics, right?

757
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Oh, yeah.

758
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:19,000
So so I mean, like, if you ask me, Hercules is kind of a he's he's kind of like a goofy character in the comics.

759
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:29,000
I feel like I feel like they would kind of rub off some of that onto Zeus because he's not going to be a huge

760
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,000
like a huge character, maybe in future films.

761
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:41,000
But I think that Hercules will and they probably want to make him more of like that serious role that we're talking about for, you know, for Thor.

762
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,000
I want to feel like they would make him more serious.

763
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:51,000
And so that's why they probably make Zeus seem kind of goofy, because that's I feel like what he would kind of be like, you know what I mean?

764
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Like, I got real comic book Hercules vibes when I was watching that.

765
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:04,000
Yeah, I feel this more goes into effects, but I just want your guys real quick opinion when they showed Hercules.

766
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:17,000
I mean, I don't know if this is how the guy actually really looks, but did his like like pecs and like everything in that area kind of look CGI, kind of like fake?

767
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,000
I think they supersized him.

768
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,000
That OK.

769
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,000
Probably.

770
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,000
I figured they did something.

771
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,000
Yeah, like something something seemed off about it.

772
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,000
I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

773
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,000
OK, but something was definitely off.

774
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,000
OK, I can try not lose my mind.

775
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Yeah, but before we jump ahead there, where's everyone at with story?

776
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Because I feel like I talked it up, even though I'm not like my critic brain is telling me it's lower than where I personally want it to be.

777
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:56,000
So where are you guys sitting?

778
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Let's let Rose go first.

779
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,000
I want to hear roses.

780
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,000
Shit.

781
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,000
I was hoping you guys wouldn't be here.

782
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,000
I've been so curious to hear.

783
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,000
Yeah, I know.

784
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,000
Right.

785
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:15,000
So I'm sorry to say I'm in the high 70s.

786
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,000
I'm going to go 76.

787
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,000
I mean, that's not horrible.

788
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,000
I mean, it's in the like the C.

789
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,000
C plus range ish kind of.

790
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,000
Maybe like a super strong C.

791
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,000
What about you, Vic?

792
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:49,000
You know, for the story, I don't think it says it's not super high, but it's not super low either, because for me, again, my hat.

793
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:58,000
Just tip to them and mind blown because of how much they pulled in from again, one of my favorite runs.

794
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,000
I'm sitting at like an 83 for the story.

795
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
That's actually right around where I was at, too.

796
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,000
Is it?

797
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:15,000
I mean, I feel like it's not that high, but I don't want to go any higher and I don't want to go any lower than that either.

798
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,000
Like, I think it's.

799
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,000
Yeah, I went up to an 84.

800
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,000
OK.

801
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:33,000
Just because of like, I think they handled a lot of the themes pretty well and they did keep a really solid flow.

802
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,000
I think where the movie just kind of took a dive was the gods.

803
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Like once they kind of got into like all of that, it kind of felt like an unnecessary pit stop.

804
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
So, I mean, it's like, eh.

805
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,000
So.

806
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,000
Yeah.

807
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
Um.

808
01:11:54,000 --> 01:12:00,000
So the averages averages us out to an 81 for story.

809
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,000
OK.

810
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,000
All right. Next up with writing.

811
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:10,000
So this is like the dialogue, all the issues that we had with Thor and.

812
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,000
All that shit.

813
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,000
Do I have to bring this?

814
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,000
I know I have to bring this up really quick.

815
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:24,000
The DJ, you son of a bitch, come on out.

816
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,000
No, the.

817
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:38,000
The the the gag that Korg ran into his god and was sitting on a throne of scissors.

818
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:44,000
Was the funniest thing to me.

819
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,000
That was pretty.

820
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,000
I freaking love that.

821
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:55,000
And I think it's was also kind of really funny how.

822
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Taika with TD voiced the Korg's God.

823
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,000
This is awesome.

824
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Yeah. And how Korg had a relationship with a another Kronen called Doug.

825
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Or wasn't it like.

826
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,000
Wasn't it like Blake or Blaine? It was Blaine.

827
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,000
Was it Blaine? I thought it was Doug.

828
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,000
Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure it was Blaine.

829
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,000
I'm pretty sure it was like Blaine. It was something like super funny.

830
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,000
And I thought it was funny because he had that handlebar mustache.

831
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,000
For some reason, it's not saying the name.

832
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Yeah.

833
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,000
But yeah, just had to bring that up. I thought it was really, really funny.

834
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,000
Dude, as much as I love Korg.

835
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,000
Oh, what did you think it was?

836
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,000
Doug.

837
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:55,000
And I thought it was Blaine. Well, we will meet in the middle. It was Dwayne.

838
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,000
That's funny.

839
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,000
That's hilarious.

840
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,000
Yeah.

841
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:06,000
So yeah, he and Dwayne, they partner up to have a baby.

842
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,000
Yeah.

843
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Oh, shit.

844
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,000
What was I saying?

845
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
Sorry.

846
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,000
You distracted me.

847
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000
Hashtag worth it. We needed to find out his name.

848
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,000
I don't remember.

849
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:37,000
I wish that the movie would have been ballsy enough to actually kill off Korg.

850
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,000
Dude, straight up.

851
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:48,000
When he like crumbled, I was just I was rocked.

852
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,000
I don't know, man.

853
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Pun intended.

854
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,000
I agree. I was too like that.

855
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:01,000
I agree that I audibly gasped when that happened.

856
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:11,000
And then if you think about it, I think because again, like knowing where Jane was at with her whole thing.

857
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:17,000
I feel like you already know that Thor has lost his dad, his mom, his brother.

858
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,000
He had to kill his sister, you know, Heimdall's dead right in front of him, actually him and Loki.

859
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:33,000
Like, I think it would suck if in one in his fourth movie, they would kill off his new best friend and Jane.

860
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:43,000
Like, that would just be like so much loss for this man in one freaking movie after having lost people and like all the other ones,

861
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:49,000
especially because the last film he was in, you know, he has to go back to when the day his mom dies.

862
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,000
Like, you know, just reliving that day and not getting a chance to fix it or anything.

863
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,000
You know what I mean?

864
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Dude, Thor.

865
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
No, go ahead.

866
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:06,000
No, but what if to top off not only Korg dying and Jay dying, but considering she got stabbed, Valkyrie died too.

867
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,000
Dude, I was afraid she was going to die.

868
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,000
And Sif, I thought Sif was going to die in his hands.

869
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,000
I thought Sif was going to die in his hands.

870
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,000
Everyone Thor loves just dies in this movie.

871
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:28,000
And not only that, not only that, Sif is like one of his last original like friends from like people that are alive.

872
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:33,000
Because the, you know, the heroes three, they all got killed by Hela.

873
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:38,000
And Sif was the only one that was still alive.

874
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:45,000
So it's like, dude, like if I was like, oh shit, she's going to die right there in his arms.

875
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:50,000
And that's his last like connection to his old life.

876
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,000
Dude, that would have been so ballsy.

877
01:16:53,000 --> 01:17:02,000
But like, if you think about it, Thor has lost someone in every single movie.

878
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:09,000
And yet, yes, I know you can make the argument that Loki technically didn't die in the first one, but he thought he did.

879
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,000
And so I'm like, eh, that counts.

880
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,000
And the second one too.

881
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,000
Yeah, and the second one.

882
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:19,000
But he also like killed off his mom.

883
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,000
True.

884
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,000
And then the third one he lost his mom.

885
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,000
Yeah.

886
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,000
And so in the killed off.

887
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,000
Yeah.

888
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,000
So like his mom died.

889
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,000
Every single movie Thor has been in, someone dies in frickin' Thor.

890
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,000
It was Loki.

891
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
I know he technically didn't, but whatever.

892
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,000
No, you're right.

893
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,000
In the Avengers movie, Phil Coulson.

894
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,000
In Dark World, it was his mom.

895
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,000
In Age of Ultron.

896
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,000
Oh man, I might have just disproved myself.

897
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,000
Yeah.

898
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,000
Shit.

899
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,000
Yeah, I'm trying to think of who died in that.

900
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:03,000
I was thinking, I know Quicksilver died, but I'm like Thor didn't really have a connection with Thor.

901
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,000
But that's not really a connection.

902
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,000
Do they even say two words to each other?

903
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,000
I don't believe so.

904
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,000
I don't think they do.

905
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:16,000
The only Avenger he actually like interacts with is Hawkeye.

906
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,000
Yeah.

907
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:26,000
Okay, technically he's grieving over the loss of his relationship with Jane.

908
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,000
Right?

909
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
No, that's in Ragnarok.

910
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,000
I mean, but he does bring Jane.

911
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000
Okay, fine, fine.

912
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:43,000
I think what you can say is in every one of his movies, like his individual movies, he's technically lost somebody.

913
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,000
Yeah.

914
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Like you're right.

915
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,000
In the first one, technically Loki didn't die, but you're under the impression he does.

916
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,000
Yeah.

917
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Second one, he loses Mom.

918
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,000
So, I mean, it's just like not counting Age of Ultron.

919
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:05,000
Like Age of Ultron is kind of the exception, but after that, it's Infinity War.

920
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,000
He loses Loki and Heimdallr.

921
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,000
Yeah.

922
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:18,000
Then, yeah, Thor Ragnarok, he loses his dad and his sister.

923
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,000
And his eye.

924
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,000
And his eye.

925
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,000
Like he's just surrounded by loss.

926
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,000
Yeah.

927
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:35,000
And yeah, like I know that they killed off Jane, but I think it would have been super ballsy for them to take Corg, too.

928
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,000
Yeah.

929
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,000
So.

930
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:48,000
I think that's just a huge, that would be a huge like just loss right there, though, man.

931
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Yeah.

932
01:19:49,000 --> 01:20:07,000
Well, I think, so wait, did he, so Zeus quote unquote killed Corg and then Thor grabbed the, then was it Thor grabbed the lightning bolt and killed Zeus?

933
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,000
Yeah.

934
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,000
Okay.

935
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Okay, then it kind of justifies the fake off kill then.

936
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,000
But yeah.

937
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:29,000
You're saying as like, you're saying like as, yeah, like to give him a reason to.

938
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,000
To freaking kill Zeus.

939
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,000
Yeah.

940
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:38,000
I think that was the motivation to kill Zeus and then it was just like Corg's like, oh, I'm okay.

941
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:43,000
Yeah.

942
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:47,000
Yeah, so I'll forgive that one.

943
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,000
And I'll forgive the other ones too.

944
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,000
So I'm fine with all those.

945
01:20:53,000 --> 01:21:04,000
The only other writing issues that I had were once again the gods in this. Zeus freaking sucked.

946
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:10,000
Like when he came down to the platform, the way that he, like, could you have made him more of a joke?

947
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,000
He freaking picks up his skirt to walk down the stairs.

948
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,000
Like, come on.

949
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,000
Like that was so stupid.

950
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:30,000
I think especially when you have like the only other god that you have reference to is Odin.

951
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:41,000
And how like just proper and like regal he is, you know, and then you get that and it's like, it's a night and day difference.

952
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:46,000
You know, Zeus is supposed to be the oldest and like the strongest god out there.

953
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:53,000
But yet you have someone who's like Odin, who's still so like poetic and profound and everything.

954
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,000
You know what I mean?

955
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,000
It does kind of suck, but I don't know. I agree.

956
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,000
The gods, that was kind of made into a joke.

957
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Like it almost made me feel like Odin would look at Zeus like a joke.

958
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,000
Right.

959
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:16,000
But he's like super like well respected within like the god community.

960
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,000
So it's like it's so freaking tough.

961
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,000
Like, yeah.

962
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:31,000
I can't wait for this to come out on Disney Plus so I can like go through and look through all the gods that they tried introducing.

963
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:38,000
I would have I thought it would have been really cool for them to show like Kanshu from Moon Knight.

964
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,000
That would have been cool.

965
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,000
Or just like some of the other Egyptian gods.

966
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,000
I bet you if you look around, like they're probably somewhere in the background.

967
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,000
They probably snuck something in.

968
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,000
Yeah, that's why I can't wait to see it.

969
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:06,000
Yeah, my my other I think the only other issue which we've already kind of discussed a little bit was Thor as a comedic character.

970
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:19,000
He's just a little over the top and it just was really hard for me to believe that he was the man that like inspired armies.

971
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,000
Yeah.

972
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Or just it's just such a departure from the first Thor.

973
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,000
Absolutely.

974
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,000
And it's just borderline distracting.

975
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:36,000
Like it was kind of the issue I had with Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story 4.

976
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,000
They kind of pulled him like playing him as a dummy.

977
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:47,000
Like he was just like he was so capable in the first three movies.

978
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:54,000
Like obviously the first one he had is like his issues where he's like come into terms with being a toy.

979
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,000
But and then like the second one he's super capable.

980
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,000
Third one he's really capable.

981
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:05,000
And then the fourth one he's a freaking dummy that has to rely on his inner his inner voice.

982
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,000
So it's just kind of like this is exactly like this.

983
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,000
Yeah, because I know I absolutely agree.

984
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:25,000
Yeah, the first three Toy Story 3 movies are an amazing incline to Buzz not only realizing that you know he is a toy but really starting to become smarter and smarter and smarter.

985
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:30,000
But yeah, and then the fourth one is just a boop. Let's go back to square one.

986
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Yeah, I almost feel like he should have taken like become what Woody was in the first one to like a certain extent.

987
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:45,000
But it's just like in this the first one like great introduction.

988
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:51,000
The second one just kind of like flatlined him a little bit.

989
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:58,000
And then Ragnarok frickin shot his character up like tenfold and was just all like, great.

990
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,000
Like we have someone that's like interesting to watch now.

991
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:12,000
And here it's just like they took that and just ran with it and it's like okay you took it too far.

992
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,000
Also Jane's writing kind of irritated me too.

993
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
Really?

994
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Yeah, like the way that she was like always trying to make hammer puns.

995
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:29,000
See, I don't know. I kind of liked that just because it kind of made sense for her.

996
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,000
I mean, like especially when she's like, oh, you know, it's my first bad guy.

997
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:37,000
I love those parts.

998
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,000
Yeah.

999
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,000
What do you think of them, Vic?

1000
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:51,000
I think kind of the same with Thor. I think they tried to make her a little too funny in this movie.

1001
01:25:51,000 --> 01:26:01,000
And one of the things I was telling my friends that like one of my friends asked me,

1002
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:07,000
they're like give me one out of ten, you know, what would you rate it? Don't be biased.

1003
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:14,000
And I told them, I think that like they tried, there were some parts where the humor was natural.

1004
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,000
It felt natural. But there was also parts where it felt really forced.

1005
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:26,000
And I feel like she had a good handful of those moments in my opinion.

1006
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,000
That's fair.

1007
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:33,000
So as far as the writing, like that's something that kind of got to me was there were some parts where like

1008
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:43,000
I'm kind of like my sister who knows nothing about, you know, these characters and she's watching them.

1009
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:51,000
I'm wanting her to see a good mix, maybe more like Thor from Ragnarok.

1010
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:55,000
But, you know, she's getting a completely different version that I'm just like,

1011
01:26:55,000 --> 01:27:04,000
oh, this isn't the Thor I'd want you to like experience really for your first big screen like viewing of this character.

1012
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,000
Because I know she's watched the other ones, but it's like you want her to have,

1013
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:15,000
I wanted her to have more of like maybe Thor Ragnarok at the very least, that kind of version.

1014
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:23,000
So that's why I think with the writing, I agree with you on that. It was a little too forced on the humor.

1015
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,000
I think they should have played her up to be a lot more serious than she was.

1016
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:36,000
And like totally understandable. She's like a human that has become a superhero.

1017
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,000
Like there's humor within that to have.

1018
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:47,000
And I think her like having the discussion like kind of early on when she meets up with Thor and talking like,

1019
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,000
hey, do you have like a catchphrase? These are ones I've been thinking up and like, blah, blah, blah.

1020
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:57,000
And then leaving it at that until the very end and then have her do the whole,

1021
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:02,000
hey, I think I came up with my catchphrase. Like that would have just.

1022
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:07,000
Instead of instead of throughout the movie, she's like throwing random lines out.

1023
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:12,000
Yeah, it's like kind of just shut up about the catchphrase and then that and the ghost.

1024
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:16,000
Yeah, the ghost was stupid. Now hold on.

1025
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:28,000
What I I love that they're in that because they're definitely a huge part in in these movies, too.

1026
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,000
But are in the in the comics. But I actually enjoy the goats even in the comics.

1027
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,000
So when I saw them in the trailers alone, I was like so excited.

1028
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:44,000
And in fact, that's probably going to be my next big pop purchase is Thor with.

1029
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:50,000
With Tooth Grinder and Tooth Nasher.

1030
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,000
Like having them in the movie. Great.

1031
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,000
Like super cool. You want to do the screaming goat joke a couple of times.

1032
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:05,000
Sure. Every time they're on screen, frickin go jump in a creek.

1033
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:10,000
I think I think, though, that's where they dug their their grave, though, for that joke.

1034
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:16,000
Like it worked when they're at the Guardians, because it's like, OK, here's these new pets.

1035
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,000
They're yours. And it turns out they're giant and they're freaking loud, you know,

1036
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:26,000
and they have to fit in this little this little spaceship that's, you know,

1037
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:32,000
already got so many people in it. And it's like, I think like it was funny there.

1038
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:38,000
But you're right. I think because they're like, well, we already made them like these annoying screaming goats.

1039
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,000
Like, we've got to keep this kind of going.

1040
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:45,000
Like you can't have a screaming goat and not have it screaming.

1041
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:51,000
Otherwise, you have to keep making the we can eat them joke. Yeah.

1042
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:57,000
How I personally would have handled that if they insisted on the screaming,

1043
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:03,000
I would have had the initial screaming when they're being pulled onto the ship

1044
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:08,000
and screaming with the Guardians. I would have dealt with that.

1045
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:14,000
I would have had that comment about eating them and then have like that like shocked look on the goat's face

1046
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:20,000
and no screams again until they freaking crash into that shadow planet.

1047
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:27,000
Yeah, that would have that was the only other scream that made me laugh.

1048
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:33,000
I think those were the only two moments where I laughed where it was like initially finding them.

1049
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:39,000
And then when they crashed into the planet, every other time that they did the screaming, I was annoyed.

1050
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:45,000
I just like that they screamed every time they landed, though.

1051
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:51,000
I think every time they landed, it would have been OK because there was only one other time.

1052
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:57,000
Like that could be their thing. Like that could be their thing every time they show them going forward.

1053
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:04,000
It's like they're about to land and queue scream, queue goat scream, you know.

1054
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:10,000
I probably could have dealt with that. I will say in my I don't know.

1055
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:17,000
This is just how I feel with the whole like Jane thing and her doing so many quirks and that kind of stuff.

1056
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:21,000
I kind of looked at it. I don't know if this is how Tiger with T.D. wrote it for Jane's character,

1057
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:28,000
but I just felt that she did so many with that because with someone who's dealing with, you know, stage four cancer,

1058
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:32,000
of course, they, you know, like they want to try to hide that they want to distract from that.

1059
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:38,000
So she's kind of trying to do that to not only keep herself positive,

1060
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:46,000
but keep, you know, the whole topic of cancer just out of everybody's mind.

1061
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,000
It's an interesting thought.

1062
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:55,000
All right. So where does that put you with the the writing?

1063
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Me or Vic? Both of you.

1064
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,000
Vic, do you want to go first?

1065
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:06,000
I'll go first. Why not?

1066
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:13,000
I think I think for me with the writing, again, I mean,

1067
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:21,000
it's hard to not do this with with all the comparing between, you know, the the two

1068
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,000
two forms of media that this story kind of comes from.

1069
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:30,000
But I would I think with what just trying to focus on the movie alone,

1070
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:36,000
a lot of the things we mentioned, like issues that we had, it honestly only drops me down.

1071
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:45,000
Like, I think I think the highest I'd go is about an eighty one as far as writing.

1072
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:50,000
OK. What about you, Rose?

1073
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,000
I agree with everything that you guys said with writing, especially with Thor's character.

1074
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,000
And I can understand where you guys are coming from with Jane.

1075
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:04,000
So I'm going to be just a point below my story score and I'm going to give a seventy five.

1076
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:11,000
All right. Well, interestingly enough, I'm actually

1077
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,000
a little bit closer to well, guess not.

1078
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:21,000
I'm still close to Vic, but I didn't I didn't crack the 80s with my the writing score.

1079
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:29,000
As much as I like love this movie and a pretty like all the things that they did with gore and whatnot,

1080
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:35,000
I am definitely able to recognize that they had some major writing issues

1081
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,000
and it was just the over comedic adaptation.

1082
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:46,000
Yeah. If they would have dialed it back a little bit, I think it would have been a much better movie.

1083
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:52,000
So absolutely. So I'm going to give it a seventy nine,

1084
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:58,000
which will averages us out to a seventy eight point three.

1085
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:04,000
All right. Moving on over to acting.

1086
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,000
This is going to be an interesting one. Top three.

1087
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:13,000
For for everyone.

1088
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:18,000
I'll hit this one first, because I think I have a very controversial take.

1089
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,000
What's yours then? Because I already have my top three.

1090
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:34,000
All right. My number three is probably going to go to Valkyrie.

1091
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,000
I actually.

1092
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:45,000
I lied. My number three is going to Thor.

1093
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:56,000
Yeah. So I I think he did well enough in his role to.

1094
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:03,000
Basically sell all the things that he needed to sell, but out of everyone.

1095
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Not my favorite.

1096
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:13,000
Like there's a there's a couple of people that I he's actually maybe more closer to my number four.

1097
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:18,000
But my number.

1098
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:26,000
The person that was like I was switching back and forth for because I was I was thinking about putting.

1099
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,000
Jane at my number three.

1100
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:38,000
And Thor at my number four. But I think Thor just barely beats her out.

1101
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:43,000
Just because I don't think Natalie Portman does comedy very well.

1102
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:48,000
So I'm like, no.

1103
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:55,000
So anyway, yeah, my number three, I'm giving the Thor. My number two, I'm giving to Valkyrie.

1104
01:35:55,000 --> 01:36:02,000
I think she was like perfect levels of comedic and serious.

1105
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:09,000
I think she just frickin killed it in her role and.

1106
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:17,000
The the the dialogue between her and Jane when they were at the the God.

1107
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,000
Town, I forget what it's called.

1108
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,000
The Omnipotent Island or whatever.

1109
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:29,000
Yeah, I'm I'm the city of the city.

1110
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,000
Yeah, I like their fun fact.

1111
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:39,000
Fun fact that was also never heard of before that run in the comics.

1112
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:44,000
They made that like the writer that was writing that kind of made that up for that run.

1113
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:49,000
So it was like its first kind of mentioning an appearance in the comics.

1114
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,000
That's cool. That city.

1115
01:36:51,000 --> 01:37:01,000
Yeah, so, yeah, number two given to Valkyrie and my number one, I'm given to Gore, the God Butcher.

1116
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:05,000
I loved Christian Bale's performance in this.

1117
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:09,000
He was damn near unrecognizable.

1118
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:15,000
In this and he was utterly terrifying.

1119
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:20,000
And I loved every second that he was on screen.

1120
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:25,000
So, yeah, that's my.

1121
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:30,000
My my top three, which I kind of forgot I forgot to go through this.

1122
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:37,000
We had Chris Hemsworth who played Thor, Natalie Portman who played Jane Foster or the Mighty Thor.

1123
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:45,000
Christian Bale who played Gore, Tessa Thompson who played King Valkyrie, Taika Waititi who played Korg.

1124
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:53,000
And yeah, that's all I'll list off.

1125
01:37:53,000 --> 01:38:04,000
You know, it's funny is you pretty much named my my three because I didn't I really didn't put Hemsworth even my top three as far as best acting.

1126
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:13,000
Really? And you you you listed my exact order because I loved I did love Christian Bale as Gore.

1127
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,000
He did a fantastic job.

1128
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:21,000
I'll get into I'll get into the appearance more when we get to the effects portion.

1129
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:36,000
But as far as the acting goes in the dialogue, again, as I've been saying, just because of the way the character is and the character is that he's portraying is in the comic.

1130
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:52,000
He did a freaking awesome job. And yeah, I I really loved I agreed with you for the same reason that I put Valkyrie as number two that it was a perfect blend of of comedy.

1131
01:38:52,000 --> 01:39:09,000
And when they're my favorite part was when they're on the ship and Jane is outside and Valkyrie and Thor both talking and then she's like he's like we're both on the same team and she's like yeah, Team Jane.

1132
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:23,000
Meaning like I you know like she's going to move in on your girl broke is like you know that Valkyrie like yeah you guys are on the same team like you guys are going for the same thing.

1133
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:31,000
You know like I thought that was hilarious because then you know Thor's like wait what.

1134
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:53,000
Hold on like now he's like shit I got competition and I mean that's you don't come back from that man you don't come back from once once you crush turns that way you know turns you know stops liking you man because they're going for you know maybe the same sex and he's not there's nothing he could do about it you know it is what it is.

1135
01:39:53,000 --> 01:40:07,000
But I thought that was hilarious and it wasn't it wasn't too over the top it was super subtle you know super super subtle and I love that about I think about her and that's why I liked I liked her comedy.

1136
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:25,000
But that's what's great about her comedy like my favorite bit is when they're clearing out the the ship getting it ready for the by frost travel and she's like get rid of everything that's not essential and they're getting ready to throw out the beer and she's like that's essential.

1137
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,000
Yeah.

1138
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:34,000
Yeah, and see that's I think that's the kind of humor and comedy that we more wanted from Thor.

1139
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:50,000
Oh absolutely and that we didn't get but she's she's kind of now has that that personality that it was just she got the sweet spot like they got the sweet spot and they they kept it going with her versus you know versus with Thor.

1140
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,000
Dude I would love to see a movie with just Valkyrie.

1141
01:40:54,000 --> 01:41:02,000
It would be really good. Yeah, it would be so freaking good like Tessa Thompson is just a gem.

1142
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,000
It really is.

1143
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:10,000
Um, yeah, number three would definitely be Jane Natalie Portman, because again I mean it.

1144
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:27,000
They pushed her a little too far on the comedy side, but it was not as bad as, as what they did with with Hemsworth's character you know, and that's, it hurts to say it hurts to say it but I, there's still room for redemption I'm sure with the next one.

1145
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,000
You know, another movie coming.

1146
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:36,000
I hope so I hope they get writers that take Thor a little bit more serious.

1147
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:48,000
Yeah, because it doesn't feel like Tyka does, like I feel like Tyka has issues getting into the world.

1148
01:41:48,000 --> 01:42:00,000
Like one of the things that like, I was just utterly shocked by that they threw in was the Infinity Cones ice cream shop.

1149
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:13,000
And the frickin statue outside is the Infinity Gauntlet like no one in New Asgard would throw up a frickin Infinity Gauntlet ice cream cone place.

1150
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:21,000
Like, hey, you know that thing that killed half of everything.

1151
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:31,000
Now it's an ice cream parlor like now, especially not the frickin Asgardians who were firsthand witnesses to Thanos's destruction.

1152
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,000
It's true.

1153
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:43,000
Like that, it just felt so out of place like as a fan, like an MCU fan, would I eat at Infinity Cones?

1154
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:47,000
No doubt.

1155
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:52,000
Like I wouldn't even think twice about it, like, no questions asked.

1156
01:42:52,000 --> 01:43:05,000
But as a character within the MCU and all the horrible things that have happened because of Thanos, it seems kind of tasteless.

1157
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:16,000
I just think that his sense of humor is a little more like making light of those kind of situations.

1158
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:37,000
And I think that's what a lot of the MCU has been doing like with, if you watch the shows and the movie, the past movies, like you get a lot of different kind of, what's it called, commentary on like stuff that happened.

1159
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:47,000
You get people that maybe didn't, you know, they survived the blip, but then like, I don't know, things kind of worked out for them.

1160
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:54,000
And then you get, you also get like, you know, people who lost a lot.

1161
01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:00,000
Like there's a guy in Doctor Strange where he's like, yeah, you know, lost my cat and all this other stuff.

1162
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:07,000
Like, you know, like some people are, they're kind of like, I guess, trying to show too.

1163
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:13,000
Like, I don't know, it was for some people, like some people just take it totally differently.

1164
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,000
You know what I mean?

1165
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,000
It's all these different views.

1166
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:22,000
But I don't know, man, I think that that's just his sense of humor, you know?

1167
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,000
Like he just kind of, he kind of makes light on a lot of things.

1168
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,000
And I think that's just to push the story along.

1169
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:36,000
Right. And I mean, I don't, I just think with certain, like with things like that,

1170
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:45,000
where you have to think about the trauma that people have been through because of things that have happened within these movies,

1171
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:52,000
that's something you kind of need to be aware about or give a little bit more thought to.

1172
01:44:52,000 --> 01:45:02,000
But I mean, it's a minor gripe, but yeah, like still, it's just kind of one of those things where I was just like,

1173
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:06,000
that kind of seems funky.

1174
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:17,000
Like that seems like somewhere like I'd find it at Disneyland and like pay out landish prices for a small scoop of ice cream that actually tastes like shit.

1175
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:22,000
But now look, that's what's going to end up happening. There's going to be a stand or something at Disneyland.

1176
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,000
Oh yeah, an Avengers campus.

1177
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,000
And would I eat there? That's a freaking Lutely.

1178
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:33,000
Exactly. But that's my point is like a lot of what they do or what they've done with Thor has been like,

1179
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:42,000
I feel like it's just a way to market him as a more like a, like, what's it called?

1180
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:49,000
Entertaining character. So that way, like because then kids that see him, it's like, oh, he's super strong, but he's funny too.

1181
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:54,000
You know, like it's something that kids laugh about, but they don't know why they're laughing at it.

1182
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:58,000
You know what I mean? Right.

1183
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:07,000
Hmm. I just hope they don't get into like a too campy of a of a position with with these movies.

1184
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,000
I fear that with Taika Woteki. I'm sorry.

1185
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:19,000
I do too. I think they could. I think he could dial it back, like especially if they, you know, if they have another movie with him

1186
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:23,000
and like with love and love too. I think they could dial it back.

1187
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:28,000
Like they could make that where they left it, like where they left it off.

1188
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:34,000
I think they can use that to their advantage to dial him back to where like we were saying, like the way Valkyrie is.

1189
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:40,000
I think they could dial it back to that point where he's now a father figure and he's got to be a little more stern at some points.

1190
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,000
And I think that I think that could bring him back to that.

1191
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,000
You know, that point. I hope they do.

1192
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:55,000
And I hope they just don't keep running with this direction of Thor. Otherwise, he's just going to be a total joke.

1193
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:59,000
Like you brought up Rose.

1194
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:10,000
Damn it, Rose. Did you guys see what Taika Woteki said a couple days ago about the ending of the movie?

1195
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:15,000
No. So at the end credits when it says Thor will return,

1196
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:21,000
that actually surprised both Taika and Chris Hemsworth because they actually had no idea that they were going to include that.

1197
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:28,000
They're just like, wait, what? We weren't planning on making a Thor five. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

1198
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,000
Dude, Marvel is so freaking secretive about their shit.

1199
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,000
I love it, though. I love it.

1200
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:41,000
Because you can get leaks, but you don't know if they're real unless you see it on the you know what I mean?

1201
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:48,000
Like you can take that as you know, as scripture basically, because it's on the theater.

1202
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,000
It's in the screen.

1203
01:47:51,000 --> 01:48:00,000
But you know, when you just see all these articles and stuff, it's like, oh, I hear this, you know, but you can't really go with what you read on there.

1204
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:04,000
You know what I mean? So it's like I kind of like it.

1205
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:09,000
I kind of like it because you could have all these theories, but it's not confirmed until you see it on the screen.

1206
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:15,000
You know, dude, freaking Facebook and Twitter articles piss me off.

1207
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:24,000
Because like some people will talk and be like, oh, this insane thing is going to happen, like confirmed by Kevin Feige himself.

1208
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:29,000
And then I'll go and like listen to that interview with him. And he's like, maybe.

1209
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:35,000
Yeah, like and then he's like sometimes he'll just flat out be like, yeah, we're going in a different direction.

1210
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:40,000
And I'm like, dude, like freaking click bait assholes.

1211
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,000
Yep.

1212
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:43,000
Oh, shit.

1213
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:47,000
Anyway, Rose, what's your top three?

1214
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:51,000
So I feel you guys might hate me for my top three.

1215
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,000
Probably not.

1216
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,000
OK.

1217
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,000
He's like Thor number one.

1218
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,000
Oh, hell no.

1219
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:01,000
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

1220
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:04,000
Number three, Tessa Thompson, Valkyrie. Amazing.

1221
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:09,000
For what little screen time she had, because I truly feel that she was sidelined in this movie.

1222
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:10,000
I didn't like it.

1223
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:17,000
I think she did a great job to Christian Bale's gore.

1224
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,000
Fantastic villain. Loved him from start to finish.

1225
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,000
And I wish that we could get more of him in the future.

1226
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,000
I hate Marvel with the frickin one off villains.

1227
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,000
Does it annoy anybody else?

1228
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,000
It makes sense for an actor like Christian Bale, though.

1229
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,000
True.

1230
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:39,000
Like he was so hesitant about doing this until he read the script.

1231
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:40,000
Oh, really? I don't know.

1232
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,000
Yeah. He was like, no, I've been in a superhero movie before.

1233
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,000
I'm not interested, not interested.

1234
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,000
And then they gave him the script and he's like, OK, I'm in.

1235
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:59,000
And then when he realized, like, he wouldn't have to wear like a super tight outfit, he's like, OK, you got me.

1236
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:05,000
Toga, I'm in.

1237
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,000
All right. Then number one.

1238
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:12,000
Number one is actually Natalie Portman's Jane Foster.

1239
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:18,000
Interesting. This is the first movie in the MCU where I honestly did not find Jane annoying.

1240
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:24,000
Like in the first two Thor movies, I found her kind of hard to stomach just a little bit.

1241
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,000
And that's nothing against Natalie Portman. It's honestly the way that her character is written.

1242
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:28,000
Just the character.

1243
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:32,000
But yeah, I loved her in this movie, though.

1244
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:36,000
From start to finish, I loved her character moments.

1245
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:44,000
I feel especially Natalie Portman did a great job acting on having stage four cancer.

1246
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,000
Yeah. So she was she was my number one.

1247
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,000
Nice. OK.

1248
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:57,000
All right. So what's everyone's score?

1249
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:04,000
I'll start this one off if you guys need time.

1250
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:10,000
Unfortunately, I feel like the title characters are the ones that brought this down.

1251
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:17,000
Both Thors, I think, brought this down, at least for me, brought it down a little bit.

1252
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,000
The villain raised it up like super high.

1253
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:27,000
Some of the extras like I think Korg, Valkyrie, like those two brought it up a little bit.

1254
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:33,000
And then it's just everyone after that was just extras kind of middle ground.

1255
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:41,000
So I think for me, just kind of taking all of that into account.

1256
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:46,000
I think I'm in like 83 range.

1257
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:50,000
I'm I'm just behind you a point.

1258
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,000
82. Yeah.

1259
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:56,000
So, yeah, no, I'm I'm with you on that.

1260
01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:02,000
I agree that it kind of it's kind of hard to see the movie and, you know,

1261
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:09,000
going in, giving an unbiased opinion like that the main character characters

1262
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:11,000
would kind of bring it down.

1263
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:17,000
It's kind of hard to go higher when it's like the way you kind of envision

1264
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:21,000
those characters isn't quite what you get, you know.

1265
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:24,000
Right. But what about you, Rose?

1266
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,000
I'm a point below Vic. 81.

1267
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,000
You won.

1268
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:34,000
All right. Well, that averages us out to an 82.

1269
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,000
Love it.

1270
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,000
All right. Moving on over to character development.

1271
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:44,000
Really quickly before we do go to something else, just because it's in the realm of acting.

1272
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:56,000
So we mentioned Hemsworth's daughter playing Gore's daughter is or they also have

1273
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:03,000
his son, Sasha, who plays young Thor and then a brother or no, his brother,

1274
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,000
Luke Hemsworth plays the stage actor portraying him.

1275
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:12,000
And then his wife, Elsa, plays one of the former lovers of Thor.

1276
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:18,000
Yeah, I just realized it's probably that blue haired chick, the blue haired one.

1277
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,000
That's what I was thinking.

1278
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:22,000
It's got to be here.

1279
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:26,000
Yeah, that's what I'm but that's cool.

1280
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:27,000
I love what they do that.

1281
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,000
Isn't I know, right?

1282
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:34,000
Like the like that's kind of what happened with the first movie.

1283
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:41,000
Like Natalie Portman wasn't able to do reshoots and they needed like this final kiss between Thor and Jane.

1284
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:53,000
So they just threw Chris Hemsworth's wife in a in a wig and like let them Mac out.

1285
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:56,000
Like I'm pretty sure they throw it.

1286
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,000
Yeah, I love what they do shit like that.

1287
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:07,000
And like with Gosh, Melissa McCarthy and her husband being the Asgardian stage manager.

1288
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,000
Like, dude, come on.

1289
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:14,000
Like, that just kind of ties in the whole like family feel for me.

1290
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:23,000
Yeah, dude, frickin Matt Damon coming back to play Loki made me so happy to he had Damon's gym to.

1291
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:32,000
Did you guys know you guys probably knew this because I'm I'm honestly bad with like wrecking.

1292
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,000
Well, I'm bad with names.

1293
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:35,000
I'm bad with names.

1294
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,000
So if I would have heard it before, I wouldn't have realized it.

1295
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:45,000
But did you know that Dr. Grant from Jurassic Park is the stage actor for for Odin?

1296
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,000
I thought I recognized him.

1297
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:48,000
So, yeah, I went on his IMDb.

1298
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,000
I'm like, oh, my God.

1299
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,000
What's his name? Sam Neal?

1300
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,000
I think so.

1301
01:54:54,000 --> 01:55:01,000
I don't like I said, I'm bad with names, but I forgot why I was looking at at his IMDb.

1302
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:05,000
I think it was on my show and I was looking at his IMDb.

1303
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:11,000
And then it says that he was in Thor Ragnarok and it said like Odin stage actor.

1304
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,000
I was like, what the hell?

1305
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,000
I had to go back.

1306
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,000
I watched it and saw it.

1307
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:18,000
And then it said he was going to also be in Love and Thunder.

1308
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:23,000
That is so funny. That's a trip.

1309
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,000
So I guess you guys didn't know that.

1310
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,000
I feel much better knowing that I'm not the only one.

1311
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,000
That's hilarious.

1312
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:33,000
I blew my mind, blew my freaking mind.

1313
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,000
Oh, man.

1314
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:39,000
All right. Getting into character development.

1315
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:46,000
I mean, obviously we have to talk about Thor and his progression.

1316
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:49,000
I don't know about you guys. I felt he had a lot.

1317
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:55,000
I feel there was like to to a point.

1318
01:55:55,000 --> 01:56:04,000
I don't think it was like a super crazy arc, but I mean, I think it was decent enough to carry the story.

1319
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:15,000
I have fair like the way that I viewed it is that he was just completely lost in what his role was supposed to be.

1320
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,000
In just the world in general.

1321
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:29,000
So that's why he was out helping the Guardians of the Galaxy with doing doing their thing, because he was like this mighty warrior and whatever.

1322
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,000
And so that's how he was used.

1323
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:35,000
Like when the Guardians were getting their asses handed to them.

1324
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:47,000
Thor's like in the sidelines until it's like they can't stand anymore and they're like, oh, we need your help. And so he goes, does his Thor thing.

1325
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:53,000
And it's just on to the next mission and then on to the next one and the next one and the next one.

1326
01:56:53,000 --> 01:57:02,000
And then it's just he becomes like so so stationary and only viewed as this warrior when he wants this, wants a deeper meaning.

1327
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:06,000
And so he's going back to.

1328
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:11,000
He finds this mission where he's like, hey, I need to help find my friend.

1329
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:22,000
Runs into his ex and wants to both of his exes, if you count the hammer and.

1330
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:32,000
And so runs into that and then starts to struggle with those feelings of purpose again.

1331
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:44,000
And figuring out like what he wants out of life and like he thinks that he wants this life with with Jane like having her fight by his side like he like he's like they said they want.

1332
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:49,000
He wants someone to feel shitty about.

1333
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:53,000
And he.

1334
01:57:53,000 --> 01:58:03,000
He gains this realizes that he's losing her and is wanting to prevent that in some way, but then ultimately ends up.

1335
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:13,000
Getting someone in his life to take care of someone that gives him a higher purpose than just being a warrior.

1336
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:20,000
And I don't know, I just really, really like that because I mean, that's just.

1337
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:30,000
I don't think kids should be used as like your purpose in life, but they definitely I think they help with that.

1338
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:34,000
Like they help you find they can help you find your purpose.

1339
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,000
And I hope that's the route that they take with with it.

1340
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:50,000
And I think they just open the door because like that was something I was struggling with when they were talking about Thor like hey what where are they taking him.

1341
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:56,000
And so now I feel like there's more of Thor that I want to see.

1342
01:58:56,000 --> 01:59:00,000
Okay.

1343
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:14,000
So I think that they they developed his character pretty well, like I said, I don't think it's the best arc in the world, just because they just it went from no purpose to purpose.

1344
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,000
True.

1345
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:20,000
So with that, I think I'm in like.

1346
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:25,000
The low 80s, I think I'm like 81.

1347
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:31,000
Like just slightly higher than an average arc.

1348
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:40,000
I feel I'm a little different from you with the ending because you said that, oh, this now you want to see where Thor can go, right.

1349
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:49,000
I'm kind of the person like if they just stopped here, that'd be fine because I don't know I really like them wrong.

1350
01:59:49,000 --> 02:00:01,000
I can see them taking Thor more places, but now that he you know he's raising love and all that stuff, I feel that that's kind of all I need to know with Thor story like oh you know now he's raising a daughter.

1351
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:06,000
He's teaching her all that he knows they're going to go on a lots of adventures together.

1352
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,000
It's really all I need to know.

1353
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:21,000
Well, you got to think too that she was born from a cosmic being, so he's dealing with someone with cosmic abilities as well as raising a daughter.

1354
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:25,000
Fair.

1355
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,000
I see your point.

1356
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:38,000
Yeah, maybe it's just because the not so wonderful taste that this movie left in my mouth for Thor that I don't know if I want a Thor five.

1357
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:41,000
That's my opinion.

1358
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,000
Fair opinion.

1359
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,000
Yeah.

1360
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:54,000
So, character development, I'm like, like honestly like a 78.

1361
02:00:54,000 --> 02:01:09,000
All right, Vic. I think I think it's tough because I'm like hearing you both like Caleb you have a different vision for it where you're it excites you to see where they can go from there.

1362
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:15,000
Whereas, you know, Rose is more of like, this is where they've come.

1363
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:22,000
And this is where it's like, you can end it here and it'll be fine.

1364
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,000
So it's kind of hard.

1365
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:47,000
But I think, seeing like where he's come from, and then where they leave him off and I guess yeah I guess I guess I fall more under the like where he's gonna go from there just because the way I guess I'm kind of going to word this but I think I think because there's a bad taste in my mouth.

1366
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:48,000
I don't even want to call it a bad taste.

1367
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:58,000
It's more of just, I really want them to find that sweet spot for Thor. And, and if they ended I want it to be at that.

1368
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:05,000
Like I said, I think it was right where like Tessa Thompson's character is.

1369
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:25,000
And I think, I think they have the opportunity to bring it back with a fifth film again where, you know, he maybe has found his sense of purpose as a, as a parent or as a father figure.

1370
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:37,000
So I, I think for me, I'm, I'm at like a 79 because, because of how it got there.

1371
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:41,000
Because yeah he's like searching for that purpose searching searching.

1372
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:56,000
You know he thinks it's, it's to be with Jane and then at the end it's like, you know, it's, well, it's parenthood, you know what I mean and it's kind of, it was kind of a lot of ups and downs with like, where are we going with this thing.

1373
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:07,000
And then you finally get there at the end it's kind of like an abrupt stop, you know, with that whole development throughout the film.

1374
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:12,000
So I think, I think for that reason I would say like I'm at a 79 for that.

1375
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:13,000
All right.

1376
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:19,000
Well that averages us out to a 79.3.

1377
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,000
All right moving on over.

1378
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,000
Do what?

1379
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,000
What was the last time we had a point three?

1380
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,000
I think this episode.

1381
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:29,000
Yeah.

1382
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:30,000
Smart ass.

1383
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,000
No, no, one of the other scores got like a point three didn't it?

1384
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:35,000
Yeah, right.

1385
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,000
I think it was a point three.

1386
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:38,000
All right, my bad.

1387
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:39,000
Sorry.

1388
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:40,000
All right.

1389
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,000
I take that smart ass comment back.

1390
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:42,000
I'm sorry.

1391
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:43,000
It's okay.

1392
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:44,000
I remember a lot when I'm high.

1393
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:45,000
Don't worry.

1394
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:46,000
Oh my God.

1395
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,000
All right.

1396
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:51,000
Next up we got effects.

1397
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:56,000
Okay, I got one that I really want to point out with because like literally the first five minutes.

1398
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,000
I don't know about you guys but this pissed me off.

1399
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:01,000
Or just like come on Marvel.

1400
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:05,000
That God the CGI to me looked like shit.

1401
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,000
Dude, it looked real bad.

1402
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,000
Oh my God.

1403
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,000
Like how did they not come?

1404
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:13,000
I don't know what is up with Marvel.

1405
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:18,000
Like I get like they you know they have a set schedule to you know get these movies out by.

1406
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:24,000
But even like people that like work behind the scenes on these special effects have come out and said oh hey we have very strict deadlines.

1407
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:31,000
We really do not like working on Marvel movies when we're this close to the ball with having to get these effects done.

1408
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:37,000
So honestly is there like I've heard that they just don't like working for them in general.

1409
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:45,000
They fricking lowball them on like on cost like they'll be like hey we'll pay you this much money to do it.

1410
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:53,000
Even though it's like way underneath their usual fees because it's a Marvel movie and then or Marvel show or whatever.

1411
02:04:53,000 --> 02:05:01,000
And then they put like these super strict deadlines on them and then they fricking get pissed off when their effects come out looking like shit.

1412
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:04,000
See so this is yeah so I blame strictly Marvel.

1413
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,000
I don't blame the VFX artists at all.

1414
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,000
No not even a little bit.

1415
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:17,000
Yeah so that was that I'm sure when you guys start talking about it or talking about the effects I'm sure other stuff will come to my mind.

1416
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,000
Like oh this look bad this look bad.

1417
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:26,000
I don't know if it will but that was like the biggest one I had to point out because oh my God that was atrocious.

1418
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:32,000
It felt like their entire budget went into that one giant.

1419
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,000
Omnipotent city.

1420
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:35,000
What?

1421
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,000
Omnipotent city.

1422
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:46,000
I think a lot of their budget went into that even though I would argue that a lot of those gods didn't look super great either.

1423
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:55,000
But the one that I was talking about is the one where he traveled to when he ran into Sif.

1424
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:59,000
Oh yeah.

1425
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,000
Like that shot looked amazing.

1426
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:06,000
And the omnipotent city looked pretty good.

1427
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:10,000
But the gods had some issues.

1428
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,000
Had some issues huh?

1429
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:18,000
Yeah and then I'll say the goats had issues as well.

1430
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,000
Like it was just kind of like issues all around.

1431
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:25,000
Like not the quality that I've come to expect from a Marvel movie.

1432
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:28,000
And I honestly Marvel needs to chill.

1433
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:36,000
Like if they're pushing visual effects artists this hard where they're like hey we don't like working for you.

1434
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:43,000
They're going to get to the point where they're running out of visual effects artists to come to.

1435
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:51,000
I would rather them treat their vis- like especially for a studio that relies so heavily on special effects.

1436
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,000
Like you want to treat those guys good.

1437
02:06:53,000 --> 02:07:05,000
I think especially now because a lot of what their movies are- movies and shows are starting to lean towards is the cosmic and the you know the intergalactic kind of stuff.

1438
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:16,000
So it's like you really want to make sure you're getting the right kind of quality for these alien planets.

1439
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:26,000
And you know even creatures and beings on those planets like you want the best quality for that.

1440
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:39,000
It's not like you know the first couple phases of the MCU where you're still on earth and like most of your effects goes into maybe you know some of the tech that they use.

1441
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:48,000
You know if you're talking about like Tony Stark being like one of the bigger you know visual effect kind of needing people at the time.

1442
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:58,000
But it's like I think now they really should focus- yeah they really do need to focus on that considering what route they're going in.

1443
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,000
I feel one of the- oh sorry Kale.

1444
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:16,000
No you're- I was just going to say I just think that they need to look at the workload that they're putting on these studios to produce this kind of stuff.

1445
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:30,000
And realize that fans would rather have the best quality over having it out like fast.

1446
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:38,000
At least that's just me. I'd rather have something that looks good rather than have to get used to something that looks janky.

1447
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,000
Oh yeah no I absolutely agree.

1448
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:54,000
It's freaking kind of like I don't know if you guys noticed when Spider-Man No Way Home came out literally they were changing how the VFX looked literally as the movie was in theaters.

1449
02:08:54,000 --> 02:09:02,000
With Andrew Garfield's entrance when it first came out the portal was like in front of a bookcase.

1450
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:12,000
So that just looked weird but then finally like halfway through its run they finally sent out a new version that the portal was behind the bookcase so it looked more natural.

1451
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:16,000
Freaking some dumb bullshit dude.

1452
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:25,000
Yeah it really was like I don't know how they didn't catch that before they you know checked off the VFX but whatever.

1453
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:37,000
Yeah I had a lot of issues with the effects with this. There was a lot of shit that looked not good.

1454
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:46,000
Let me ask you something. Did you get like Dark World vibes when they were in the Shadow Realm?

1455
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:49,000
Not too horribly.

1456
02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:55,000
Yeah I can definitely see where you're coming from.

1457
02:09:55,000 --> 02:10:00,000
Yeah for sure.

1458
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:09,000
Yeah I don't think it was quite on that level but it was I could see it being in that realm.

1459
02:10:09,000 --> 02:10:19,000
I think it was not pushing but definitely venturing into that realm. At least some of the effects there were there.

1460
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:32,000
I wish Natalie Portman would say what scene but did you guys hear that she said that one of her favorite scenes that required a lot of VFX was actually shot in the parking lot of a Best Buy.

1461
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,000
That's kind of cool.

1462
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:43,000
Yeah I don't know which scene and I really want to know but I don't know if she'll ever tell us.

1463
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,000
I wish they would.

1464
02:10:45,000 --> 02:10:47,000
Right.

1465
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:57,000
Oh my gosh speaking of her, her helmet. I did not like her helmet.

1466
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:03,000
Her hair stylist though was on point.

1467
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:08,000
Yeah but her...

1468
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:10,000
Just got bit by a red ant.

1469
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:12,000
Oh shit are you okay?

1470
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,000
Yeah I'm fine.

1471
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:28,000
No I did not like the... like her helmet. Her helmet looked super janky all the time. Like you couldn't get an actual helmet.

1472
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:37,000
I feel like the helmet that they had on her was CGI'd like 99% of the time and it didn't look that good.

1473
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:38,000
Fair enough.

1474
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:43,000
It looked like it was... it kind of had that Green Lantern effect.

1475
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:50,000
Oh god okay. I mean to me I didn't think it was that bad but I can understand where you're coming from.

1476
02:11:50,000 --> 02:12:04,000
Yeah not the biggest fan and so unfortunately for me this might be the first time in a long time that I've rated something within the MCU this low.

1477
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:13,000
I'm in like the mid 70s for the effects. It was not great.

1478
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:26,000
So I think I'm in like 76. I had way too many issues for me to let go of.

1479
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:28,000
Yeah okay.

1480
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:45,000
I was able to kind of set my issues with the effects aside for the sake of watching the movie because I'm like okay whatever. They're doing the best that they can but there was a lot of stuff that would pull me out of it.

1481
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,000
That looks like shit.

1482
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:50,000
There was a lot of stuff like that.

1483
02:12:50,000 --> 02:13:00,000
And it was just with everything like when Jane was flying around and fighting people like it looked super duper fake.

1484
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:21,000
It's just they're not putting as much effort into it as I feel like they need to or like we just discussed they need to stop rushing these movies or just maybe more or less just apologize for the janky.

1485
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:22,000
Sorry go ahead.

1486
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:27,000
No that's about what I was... that's it.

1487
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:35,000
So I'm slightly higher than you with the effects only because again I'm...

1488
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:56,000
I throughout the whole movie was just in shock and all like with how much they brought into the movie like from the books or from the comics that like something like Omnipotent City like was really cool how they brought it into like it like brought it to life on the screen.

1489
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:12,000
And then another thing like in the movie and in the comics so like in the comics Thor makes a comment that like you know this new wielder like even uses Mjolnir totally different than the way he does.

1490
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:30,000
Like it's it's noticeably different for them and like in the movie you know Jane like you see how she like it goes in two different pieces like a bunch of different pieces and she's using it totally different than what Thor ever was able to and never did.

1491
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:53,000
I think like showing her fly like I'm trying to think of the times that we've seen him fly and it didn't look that much different but only because I don't remember seeing him fly and like like kind of do like was it him like like in the at the beginning when he flies through that temple

1492
02:14:53,000 --> 02:15:11,000
and busts you know a Captain Marvel you know like you don't really see that often in the films that he's in you know he's usually just using the hammer to like fly around but we don't always see it either.

1493
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:23,000
So I think they kind of showed her like just to show that difference a little but I mean that's that's just me I wasn't it didn't it didn't bring it down for me.

1494
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:33,000
But I think I think that's why my score is a little bit higher just because of how they brought all that to life. So I'm honestly I'm at an 80 with with my effects.

1495
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:37,000
All right, Rose.

1496
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:51,000
I'm going to meet you guys in the middle. I'm going to go with a 78 because I honestly agree with both of what you guys say. I really can't argue both of your points. So I'm just going to be the middle man and meet in the middle.

1497
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:59,000
All right, well that gives us a 78 for our effects.

1498
02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:02,000
All right, next up we got music.

1499
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:06,000
So, this is out of 10.

1500
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:11,000
The soundtrack was pretty decent.

1501
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:15,000
I feel the

1502
02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:25,000
like I kind of struggle to remember what was what was in this a little bit. What I'll tell you sweet child of mine. Welcome to the jungle Paradise City.

1503
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:29,000
November rain all by guns and roses.

1504
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:41,000
You had only only time by and yeah they had a lot of yeah a lot of like tracks on here. You had a lot of ABBA or not a lot but they had some other in there.

1505
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:44,000
How do you forget that sweet child of mine.

1506
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:48,000
I know I'm sorry. It's just Paradise City.

1507
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,000
I know.

1508
02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:55,000
Don't get me wrong like and welcome to the jungle.

1509
02:16:55,000 --> 02:17:04,000
The problem that I have with this soundtrack is, I think, Taka what he was trying to go with, like, oh, what James Gunn does with the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

1510
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:12,000
The problem I have with that is that I feel James Gunn is really good with incorporating those songs with making sense with the story.

1511
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:17,000
I'm sorry these songs kind of just felt like they were thrown in there to be in there.

1512
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:20,000
Yeah, I think that's my issue.

1513
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:23,000
Totally my issue.

1514
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:26,000
But like it's just it.

1515
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,000
I mean, don't get me wrong.

1516
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:36,000
I think they tried to make the soundtrack work with the movie versus Ragnarok where they made the movie work with the soundtrack.

1517
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:48,000
Like, yeah, I think they I think they kind of flip the formula around and it just it just didn't work as well but I, I love the music in here man I dig it.

1518
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:50,000
Yeah, I.

1519
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:56,000
Like, don't get me wrong. I'm still fairly high.

1520
02:17:56,000 --> 02:18:02,000
But just fairly high is I know I my fairly high is like an eight.

1521
02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:04,000
That's what I was at too.

1522
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:05,000
Were you.

1523
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:06,000
Yeah.

1524
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:14,000
Well, Caleb whenever we whenever my show does it if I give it a different a different rating you can call me out on it.

1525
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:15,000
I'm going to go with a nine.

1526
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:16,000
I just because I love that.

1527
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:35,000
I love the songs that they use the my only gripe was that like yes they were kind of at times it did feel like oh it's just thrown in there but I love the song I love the trap the soundtrack, like looking at what songs and stuff they used in this film.

1528
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:38,000
I'm, I am a fan so I'm gonna go with a nine.

1529
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:47,000
And mine, which I know you as in my show typically for soundtrack or audio. I'm averaging like a seven, sometimes eight.

1530
02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:50,000
But yeah, this is up there for me.

1531
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:51,000
I like it.

1532
02:18:51,000 --> 02:19:06,000
All right, well, since we round to the nearest solid number that gives us an eight for the music.

1533
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:08,000
Sorry we don't make the rules.

1534
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,000
Well we made the rules.

1535
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:13,000
We do.

1536
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:18,000
All right, next up we got costumes.

1537
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:25,000
And for the like the digitally animated ones, like we can talk about like the character design and whatnot.

1538
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:27,000
I.

1539
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:31,000
It's a tough pill for me to swallow.

1540
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:39,000
But I was really hoping that they would make Gore look like he does in the comic.

1541
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:57,000
I know the reason they didn't was because literally if you get a comic image of Gore, that character and you put it side by side with the Harry Potter, you know Voldemort from the Harry Potter films, it looks exactly like it.

1542
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:15,000
I understand why they couldn't, but God did I wish that they that they did, because he is such an amazing villain in those comics, like from design to, you know, capabilities and even his dialogue.

1543
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:17,000
He is freaking amazing.

1544
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:21,000
So, I just have a quick question with that.

1545
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:33,000
So with that, you know, I say like how he looks like Voldemort and like how they couldn't do that. Do you feel like they didn't do it because everyone just call him Voldemort or do you think they did it because Warren Brothers wouldn't let them.

1546
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:35,000
What I read was.

1547
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:36,000
Sorry, no.

1548
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:56,000
What I read was that that was something that they wanted to avoid was, was viewers going to see this Marvel film and being like, oh they copied Harry Potter or not even like true, like maybe fans of like like let's say just people going in because they're fans of the movies

1549
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:00,000
but they know nothing of like comic book characters or they don't look into them.

1550
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:12,000
So, if somebody going in they would be like, oh, that's that guy from Harry Potter like they just copied that, you know, and and whereas they're not I mean if you look at, again, you look at the comic book art, he's.

1551
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:16,000
I mean just looks freaking awesome.

1552
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:20,000
Yeah, one was Gorant first introduced into.

1553
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:23,000
I want to, it was 2000.

1554
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:28,000
Shit.

1555
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:33,000
2015, I could be wrong. Okay, so he's still fairly new. He's introduced in the.

1556
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:40,000
Yeah, but but I mean if he came out before Harry Potter like yeah Warner Brothers can do shit.

1557
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:42,000
They can. Oh yeah.

1558
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:45,000
I mean there's, there are some.

1559
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:50,000
So there are some differences 2013 by the way I'm sorry I was off by three years.

1560
02:21:50,000 --> 02:22:00,000
But there's some differences, like the Necro sword that he has they say it's like powered by shadows and stuff, or like it's got like the shadow realm powers.

1561
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:18,000
It's actually like a symbiote like it's it's a symbiote type weapon in the comic book so it's cool how in the comic like he uses it think of like, like he wears it like a cloak almost like or like the symbiote comes out when it starts to take

1562
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:35,000
take take him over. It's like a cloak. And, you know, so it just think of like venom but but instead you just have this like really cool Dr. Strange cloak.

1563
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:41,000
That's just, you know, waving around and stuff.

1564
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:53,000
Again, like here I'll see if I can totally understandable why they wouldn't be able to pull that off with gore. But and even though they weren't able to get like complete comic accuracy.

1565
02:22:53,000 --> 02:23:09,000
I think they did the best with what they could making gore intimidating, like with the scars on his on his head and everything and just like the crazy eyes that messed up teeth and all that, that good stuff.

1566
02:23:09,000 --> 02:23:12,000
His smile is like the thing of nightmares.

1567
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:22,000
Dude, no shit. And he has, that's the thing too is he has in the comic, he's got like these crazy sharp looking teeth.

1568
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:39,000
And, and, I mean you think of Voldemort he's like the same, you know what I mean like he's. I'm gonna watch. You guys I'm assuming have our, what's it called, our messenger.

1569
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:54,000
I'm gonna send this really quickly to you guys. So you can kind of see what he looks like in the comics, because it's freaking amazing, and they like, see here.

1570
02:23:54,000 --> 02:24:23,000
I've seen a couple pictures of him it's just I've never read the book. Yeah, I mean, again I get why. I get why they couldn't, but it's one of those things where it's like man I wish I really wish that I could have that we could have seen something like that because of how, how visually like, how visually like, I don't know, genius he is.

1571
02:24:23,000 --> 02:24:30,000
I don't know he just looks freaking cool. You know so you just want to like see more of it.

1572
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:42,000
Damn thing won't let me. I'll figure this out right now but here we go. I'm sending that to you guys so you can, if you're able to you can look at it, you can look at it, or you, Jonathan I guess.

1573
02:24:42,000 --> 02:25:07,000
But like it, and that's why like, it's a hard pill for me to swallow because I love how, I love how this character looks. And he is such a badass in there in the comics that I understand why they had to kind of step away from, from that route.

1574
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:22,000
But I, is it bad that I'm getting like kind of like Ebony Maw vibes from him? No, because, because he kind of, probably accurate. Yeah, I mean it's not a, I mean it looks badass, don't get me wrong.

1575
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:41,000
But yeah, just getting like a little bit. Yeah, I feel like if you cross like Voldemort and Ebony Maw, there you go, there you go. Yeah, I could see that. And both of them have been hitting the gym for like, I don't know, the last year for six days out of the week.

1576
02:25:41,000 --> 02:26:00,000
But yeah, that was a tough pill. Sorry, no, I was just gonna say, that's my only thing that I didn't like was, it was a tough pill for me to swallow, but I think that, if they could have given us that, that brings it down for me just slightly.

1577
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:19,000
And then I didn't like the way that their helmets appeared. It was too nanotech-y. It was very nanotech-y. Two Wakandan and two, two nanotech-y. Yeah. So that part, I was like, hold on, your magic, like it should come on totally different.

1578
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:31,000
It should, but it's also like, how do you differentiate it from nanotech? Because like the- You get zapped by lightning every time you're about to take it off.

1579
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:52,000
I mean, yeah. Or they take it off and it like, they take it off and it like just dematerializes, kind of like, like mist or something. It just goes away. But then when they're gonna use the helmet, it's because they're gonna go into battle, right? So it's like, boom, battle ready, helmets there all of a sudden, you know?

1580
02:26:52,000 --> 02:27:06,000
Yeah. I think that's just a really hard thing for them to navigate through. Yeah. Because it, and I think nanotech freaking kicked everyone in the ass when it came to like the helmets.

1581
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:26,000
Because I know shows in the DC universe, like The Flash, The Flash now has like a nanotech helmet and his helmet goes on and off exactly like that too. So it's just everyone's copying that style. And it's just, it doesn't work for everyone, especially for a character like Thor.

1582
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:50,000
I think, like you said, it needs to be much more magic based. Yeah. Or I think it needs to be something that shows up with their armor. And when, like I would actually, I would have really liked for them to do it like the helmet from Ragnarok where he kind of pulls it and it just kind of like folds out.

1583
02:27:50,000 --> 02:28:13,000
And then anytime he takes it off, it like kind of folds into like whatever so he can like put it in his suit somewhere and like store it. And then when he pulls it out, it like opens back up so he can throw it back on and like I like on something along that route.

1584
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:25,000
The suits. So I have the only things that like, I know that Gore isn't like comic accurate and I'm able to let that go.

1585
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:33,000
I thought he looked really cool, really intimidating and scary.

1586
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:52,000
Thor's costumes, I really liked his, where it was like almost like a pelt cape. I really love that look. And when he switched to like the crazy like shiny outfit.

1587
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:57,000
Yeah, like the blue one that he was wearing like the rest. So like that majority of the film.

1588
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:03,000
Oh, oh no no no I know what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah.

1589
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,000
I dug that.

1590
02:29:05,000 --> 02:29:17,000
I, and like I really liked Jane's outfit, I thought that the suits killed it hurt like absolutely perfect.

1591
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:22,000
The helmets were not good.

1592
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:28,000
Dude, Thor's looked like absolute dog shit. I did not like that. Yeah.

1593
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:45,000
It was awful. When he turns to the crowd, or not turns to the crowd, when they're like you know like fighting for Gore takes all the Asgardian children, and he looks and he's just like Jane, the way that I hate that scene so much for how bad the helmet looks.

1594
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:52,000
Oh my god, dude and what sucks is they've had some kick ass helmets. Yeah.

1595
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:59,000
Like, like the, the first Thor movie, like, I was gonna say the first Thor movie was really good.

1596
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:06,000
Yeah, and then Ragnarok but that's the only time we see him with a helmet isn't it. Yeah, right, dude the Ragnarok, I love the Ragnarok helmet.

1597
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:19,000
If he would have gone Ragnarok helmet style with like that color scheme, I probably could have let it go. It's just the fact that it came out so far, and made his head look huge. Yeah, that's true.

1598
02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:36,000
Which, I understand that some of the other Asgardian warriors had helmets like that that came out really far, but that's just not Thor's style. It makes his head look super fat.

1599
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:58,000
I almost felt like this, the helmet was oversized too much. It just did not fit and like hated it. But Jane's helmet, I mean I, I hated less, but I think it was maybe too CGI for whatever reason I don't know what the hell they did.

1600
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:08,000
Every time she put on her helmet, she looked more like Darcy than she did Natalie Portman.

1601
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:17,000
I mean you're not wrong. Yeah, like it's like something in her eyes changed and I'm like, that doesn't even look like Natalie Portman.

1602
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:36,000
I agree. Yeah, so I mean that's what is dropping the costume score for me a little bit. I think it had the design been better for those helmets, I probably would have been at a nine or ten.

1603
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:51,000
But I think just, actually now that I'm thinking about like Valkyrie, because Valkyrie looked killer. Valkyrie looked really good and Korg looked awesome.

1604
02:31:51,000 --> 02:32:02,000
Shit, I might still be at a nine for costumes like. But what, I hate to throw this out, but what were your thoughts on Zeus's costume?

1605
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:12,000
Zeus looked like garbage. Yeah, so does he knock you down at all or no? Because he was such a small part, no. Okay, fair enough.

1606
02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:24,000
If he would have played a bigger role, I probably would have considered it. But yeah, the people with like just this, the small roles, I did not take into consideration.

1607
02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:40,000
It was mostly the main cast. Okay. So yeah, I really liked their suits overall and I'm glad Thor did not wear his helmet other than that one instance.

1608
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:51,000
So, yeah, I agree. I was going to say I think I saw, I think I found where they pulled it from though. What, the helmet?

1609
02:32:51,000 --> 02:33:05,000
Yeah, yeah. Let me see if I can, I'll try and get that one for you guys because it, again, again from the comic, but I want to make sure, yeah.

1610
02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:28,000
So there's again a part, this is actually from the Jane Foster, like with Jane Foster, so the mighty Thor. But there is a part on there where the character Volstag, he gets this battle axe or hammer that's in there.

1611
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:39,000
And it's kind of like Mjolnir where it gives him the power of Thor. But check out his, I sent it to the chat again, check out the helmet that he has on.

1612
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:48,000
And even when I saw it in the movies, it kind of like, it kind of made me think of that. Just kind of the way that looked.

1613
02:33:48,000 --> 02:34:01,000
Yeah, I can see that. To a point. It's not too much, but I mean the way they covered his face, you know how they have it kind of like sticking out a little bit.

1614
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:09,000
Yeah, I mean that one still has like the feathery look, like this was just straight up like cowl.

1615
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:20,000
Yeah. So I think even taking into consideration the helmets, I think the suits make up for it enough.

1616
02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:25,000
On top of Korg and Valkyrie's outfits.

1617
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:45,000
And then I think just the other gods in general too. Like, even like, yes, Zeus knocks it down if I'm like taking into consideration all the extras, but there was enough good costumes to just kind of outweigh the bad ones.

1618
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:51,000
That's fair. So that's putting me at a nine for costumes.

1619
02:34:51,000 --> 02:35:01,000
No, I can match that. I am too. Hell yeah. I will see your nine and give you another nine.

1620
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:10,000
All right, well that averages us out to a nine for costumes. So last up we got our own personal grade.

1621
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:17,000
Who wants to start? You want me to start? Yeah, since you're signing us off.

1622
02:35:17,000 --> 02:35:24,000
Okay. So overall, I'm sorry to say this was not my favorite Thor movie.

1623
02:35:24,000 --> 02:35:31,000
The direction that I see them taking Thor in, I like but I don't love.

1624
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:48,000
It was just way too comedic when it needed to be serious in some parts. So with that, I'm going to go a 78.

1625
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:53,000
Oh damn. Yeah, I'm sorry.

1626
02:35:53,000 --> 02:36:06,000
Where are you at? For me, I didn't like it as much as Ragnarok.

1627
02:36:06,000 --> 02:36:15,000
But because of how much again, I've been I sound like a broken record and I'm sorry, but because of how much they you know what?

1628
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:23,000
No, I'm not sorry because I always hear Caleb like straddling the line of this is he wants more comic accuracy.

1629
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:36,000
So I don't apologize. I take it back. But because of how much they pulled in from the comic books, like it still brings it up for me.

1630
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:45,000
So for me, I would say it's at an 85. And that's probably my lowest that I would go.

1631
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:58,000
And I don't want to go any higher only because I feel like there are some other issues with it that we've already talked about that if I go higher, that's my own bias.

1632
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:04,000
That's my bias coming in into play. So I want to keep it as personal score.

1633
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:11,000
So oh so then fuck it then we're going to go with we're going to go with an 88.

1634
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:17,000
If it's personal, then all right, we'll go up to the 80. That's as high as I'd go.

1635
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:27,000
Yeah, I'm not quite up at like an 88. And I'm not quite as low as a 78.

1636
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:39,000
I'm like somewhere right in the in the middle. I'm I enjoyed this movie a lot because of the can.

1637
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:44,000
What? So an 87 got it.

1638
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:59,000
No, I I enjoyed this movie a lot because of the connection that I was able to have for the villain and and like the story that that Thor went through.

1639
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:04,000
And I think that helped with my enjoyment of the movie.

1640
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:12,000
But it felt very departed from like what I typically have come to know and love from an MCU film.

1641
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:29,000
And I feel like I've enjoyed the new stuff like in regards to like Eternals and Shang Chi and and all that way more than the stuff that's come from like past like stuff we've seen before.

1642
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:45,000
Like, yeah. So it's just it's really, really, really tough for me to like walk that line of, hey, like, oh, like I had a good time watching it.

1643
02:38:45,000 --> 02:39:00,000
There's no doubt about that. And like, I definitely want to watch it again because it's like it's it's a funny movie. But as an MCU film, it's it's just not not the best. I think that kind of soured my taste for this movie.

1644
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:05,000
So I'm I'm going to sit like right in it like an 83.

1645
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:10,000
Okay. No, that's not bad, though.

1646
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:17,000
All right. Well, that averages us out to an 83 for our personal scores.

1647
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:34,000
And that concludes this breakdown and the final all Rose and crash and Taz letter grade for Thor Levin Thunder has come to a.

1648
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:37,000
B minus.

1649
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:40,000
I'm OK with I'm very OK with that, actually.

1650
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:51,000
Yeah, me too. Yeah, it's it's definitely one of the stronger B minuses, but it's a B minus nonetheless.

1651
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:56,000
So let's see where this movie ranks up.

1652
02:39:56,000 --> 02:40:08,000
So the cutoff for a B minus is an 83 and this movie has gotten a.

1653
02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:11,000
An eighty two point zero eight.

1654
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:19,000
So the cutoff like that's to be a B like a solid B or to be a low B. Yeah. So it is.

1655
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:21,000
It's a high B minor.

1656
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:27,000
Yeah, it's like point. It's just over point nine percent away from being a B.

1657
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:30,000
OK, that's that's fair. I think that's fair.

1658
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:42,000
And a lot of that, I think, comes from again the the like the effects that we that we mentioned in even some of the writing.

1659
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:56,000
Yeah. So like I said, it's sitting at an eighty two point zero eight, which puts it below the Magnificent Seven, which is at an eighty two point one two.

1660
02:40:56,000 --> 02:41:02,000
Puts it below Ron's Gone Wrong, which is at an eighty two point three one.

1661
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:09,000
Puts it below. Let's Be Cops, which is at an eighty two point three seven.

1662
02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:15,000
Puts it below Chippendale Rescue Rangers, which is at an eighty two point four three.

1663
02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:19,000
That's going to piss a lot of people off. Yeah.

1664
02:41:19,000 --> 02:41:25,000
And puts it below the Hunt, which is at an eighty two point four seven.

1665
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:33,000
But it puts it above it chapter two, which is at an eighty one point nine five.

1666
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:40,000
Puts it above Rogue One, which is at an eighty one point nine three.

1667
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:48,000
Puts it above the War with Grandpa and Spiral, which are both at eighty one point nine three.

1668
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:53,000
Oh, I guess it's Rogue One, War with Grandpa and Spiral. They're all like equal.

1669
02:41:53,000 --> 02:42:05,000
It puts it above being the Ricardo's, which is at an eighty one point eight seven. And then it's above the bad guys, which is at an eighty one point eight one.

1670
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:15,000
What's the nearest Marvel films? Marvel film or Marvel related? Marvel.

1671
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:22,000
OK, let's do Marvel related. What's the what's the nearest one that it's that it's above and the nearest one that it's below?

1672
02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:28,000
OK, let me find it real quick. Sorry, I didn't mean to like give you more work.

1673
02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:35,000
But you're good. I'm just curious where it lands. So it is.

1674
02:42:35,000 --> 02:42:42,000
Exactly one percent higher than Deadpool two.

1675
02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:46,000
OK. OK.

1676
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:52,000
And if we're going MCU, it's above.

1677
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:57,000
Actually, nothing's in the MCU scored this low.

1678
02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:00,000
Damn. Oh, that's not true.

1679
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:05,000
MCU, it's above Ant-Man and the Wasp. OK.

1680
02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:09,000
But Ant-Man and the Wasp is at a C.

1681
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:14,000
OK. Yeah, that's fair.

1682
02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:18,000
Going the opposite direction, though.

1683
02:43:18,000 --> 02:43:22,000
It is under.

1684
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:25,000
Thor Ragnarok.

1685
02:43:25,000 --> 02:43:28,000
OK, that's that's fair.

1686
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:35,000
Yeah. But so I'm only happy with that because, like I said, I didn't like it as much.

1687
02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:39,000
But it, you know, I mean, it's it wasn't the worst either.

1688
02:43:39,000 --> 02:43:48,000
Yeah. The difference, though, between Thor, Love and Thunder and Thor Ragnarok is.

1689
02:43:48,000 --> 02:43:51,000
One point nine percent.

1690
02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:55,000
Damn, how critical are we on Thor Ragnarok?

1691
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:58,000
Well, Thor Ragnarok scored a B. Oh, really?

1692
02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:05,000
Yeah, it's actually one of our higher B movies or actually, no, it's not.

1693
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:07,000
Oh.

1694
02:44:07,000 --> 02:44:13,000
Yeah. So Thor Ragnarok is sitting at an eighty three point nine.

1695
02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:18,000
And then, like I said, Love and Thunder is at an eighty two point zero.

1696
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:21,000
It's not that.

1697
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:28,000
Yeah. So it's it's like right there.

1698
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:32,000
And that's that's about right. Yeah.

1699
02:44:32,000 --> 02:44:39,000
We mean, Rose still need to go through and finish our like,

1700
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:43,000
like putting in our scores for the like some MCU films.

1701
02:44:43,000 --> 02:44:47,000
But we're trying to figure out what our ultimate ranking is for.

1702
02:44:47,000 --> 02:44:53,000
I was I was talking to a friend about doing that, like starting over completely,

1703
02:44:53,000 --> 02:45:01,000
watching every single Marvel or like anything that has to do with any of the MCU universe.

1704
02:45:01,000 --> 02:45:07,000
I want to watch them all and like rate them like maybe top four or top five rating.

1705
02:45:07,000 --> 02:45:13,000
Like this goes into my, you know, higher rankings.

1706
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:17,000
I think that would be pretty badass, like to rank them all.

1707
02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:26,000
I want to I'm going to actually do a filter real quick just to see.

1708
02:45:26,000 --> 02:45:31,000
We all know what the top one would be, even though it's not part of the MCU.

1709
02:45:31,000 --> 02:45:34,000
For Caleb, I guess.

1710
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:37,000
Wow. Deadpool. Oh, shit.

1711
02:45:37,000 --> 02:45:39,000
I was I was going to go with Morbius. Come on.

1712
02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:49,000
It's Mormon time.

1713
02:45:49,000 --> 02:45:53,000
But yeah, man, I while you do that, I'll just I'm just going to ramble.

1714
02:45:53,000 --> 02:45:56,000
But I I freaking like this film.

1715
02:45:56,000 --> 02:45:59,000
I like what they did with with everything, man.

1716
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:03,000
So I'm I know I know I know, Rosie, you're not like super.

1717
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:05,000
I know you don't really read comics too much.

1718
02:46:05,000 --> 02:46:11,000
But like Caleb, man, I'd I'd say if you're already on there, check those out.

1719
02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:13,000
I think I have it bookmarked on there.

1720
02:46:13,000 --> 02:46:16,000
I don't know if it transfers over like when you're using it,

1721
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:21,000
like if you see stuff that I have like thrown in the library or whatever, if I have anything.

1722
02:46:21,000 --> 02:46:26,000
I'm pretty sure I have those saved just because like it's such a great run, man.

1723
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:29,000
Such a great run. I would check. Check those out.

1724
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:35,000
Like I said, the the Gore run for Thor is on Thor, the god of thunder.

1725
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:38,000
It's the first 11 issues.

1726
02:46:38,000 --> 02:46:43,000
And then and then you have the mighty Thor with Jane Foster.

1727
02:46:43,000 --> 02:46:47,000
That one's that one's just that's a great run, too.

1728
02:46:47,000 --> 02:46:59,000
OK, I have our. So Thor, Levin, Thunder is like I says, underneath Thor, Ragnarok and Ant-Man and the Wasp.

1729
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:08,000
So out of the the the MCU movies that we've ranked so far, it goes no way home.

1730
02:47:08,000 --> 02:47:14,000
So like top to bottom, so no way home. Endgame, Infinity War, Eternals,

1731
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:23,000
Shang-Chi, Multiverse of Madness, The First Avengers, Black Widow, Far From Home,

1732
02:47:23,000 --> 02:47:33,000
Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Spider-Man Homecoming, Age of Ultron, Ragnarok, Love and Thunder, Ant-Man and the Wasp.

1733
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:36,000
Age of Ultron above Ragnarok.

1734
02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:42,000
That's on that's based on like what they scored on on the show.

1735
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:45,000
That is exactly how it's.

1736
02:47:45,000 --> 02:47:49,000
Personally, I'd put it above a few of those, but I.

1737
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:52,000
I mean, that's that's interesting to see, like to see.

1738
02:47:52,000 --> 02:47:57,000
But it's also been a while since I've watched a lot of those movies, too.

1739
02:47:57,000 --> 02:48:08,000
Yeah, so don't get me wrong, I watch them repeatedly, but there's some of those that I haven't seen in quite a while just because they're not like my top favorite.

1740
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:18,000
Yeah, so it's going to be fun when we are able to fill in the the rest of them just to see what our with our system.

1741
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:20,000
That'd be interesting.

1742
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:28,000
What our official ranking is, because I think the biggest one is like Captain Marvel like out doing some other movies.

1743
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:33,000
Yeah, I might have to change.

1744
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:39,000
We'll see. But anyway, yeah, that's where Love and Thunder is.

1745
02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:44,000
And we've talked about this movie longer than the movie itself.

1746
02:48:44,000 --> 02:48:46,000
Holy shit bitching me.

1747
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:56,000
And like I said, man, it's quality over quantity, quality over quantity.

1748
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:57,000
I will.

1749
02:48:57,000 --> 02:49:02,000
If that's the case, Vic, do you want to tell everybody where they can find you?

1750
02:49:02,000 --> 02:49:08,000
Yeah. So you can find me on Crash and Taz's movie seller.

1751
02:49:08,000 --> 02:49:17,000
You can catch us on Spotify, Stitcher, Breaker, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, wherever else you listen to your podcasts.

1752
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:21,000
We're also on Instagram. We're Crash and Taz movie seller.

1753
02:49:21,000 --> 02:49:25,000
It's Crash with the letter N. So Crash and Taz movie seller.

1754
02:49:25,000 --> 02:49:29,000
And there's underscores in between each word.

1755
02:49:29,000 --> 02:49:36,000
And yeah, we kind of if you like this format, ours is kind of the same, just a little more dumbed down.

1756
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:44,000
And I'd say we do a lot more dated kind of like we do a lot more dated movies, I feel.

1757
02:49:44,000 --> 02:49:48,000
But but you know, if you like this format, it's kind of the same.

1758
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:51,000
Just again, we use smaller numbers because we can't really count on our show.

1759
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:57,000
But we, you know, we try to keep it as simple as possible there.

1760
02:49:57,000 --> 02:50:03,000
But the movie seller. But yeah, that's where you can find us.

1761
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:13,000
And as an official host of this show, you know, you can also find me here occasionally when I when I so choose on the Albros.

1762
02:50:13,000 --> 02:50:17,000
So it's also where I can be found.

1763
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:22,000
All right. Thanks, fourth host. We appreciate it.

1764
02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:30,000
So you're welcome, DJ. So I can let you know. Just wanted to let you know where you could find me at.

1765
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:39,000
All right. Well, for him to hear this seriously, though, and I can't wait for the text.

1766
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:49,000
I really do wish that he could have heard like before he started recording and everything, like all the crap, because, dude, I was seriously I was like, I'm waiting for it.

1767
02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:57,000
I'm waiting for him to come out and start talking as soon as you guys like trying to introduce the next guest on here.

1768
02:50:57,000 --> 02:51:08,000
I'm like, oh, crap, he's going to jump on here. I can feel it. I feel it in my bones.

1769
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:16,000
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1770
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:22,000
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1771
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:27,000
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1772
02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:34,000
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1773
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:38,000
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1774
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:43,000
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1775
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:57,000
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1776
02:51:57,000 --> 02:52:02,000
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1777
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:10,000
So freaking excited and Caleb did an amazing job updating the freaking artwork made it look like I have a mug shot.

1778
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:15,000
It's incredible. We had a lot of fun taking those pictures when I was in Georgia.

1779
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:18,000
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1780
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:25,000
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1781
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:32,000
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1782
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:40,000
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1783
02:52:40,000 --> 02:52:44,000
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1784
02:52:44,000 --> 02:52:47,000
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1785
02:52:47,000 --> 02:52:53,000
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1786
02:52:53,000 --> 02:53:01,000
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1787
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:08,000
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1788
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:12,000
Yep. Yeah. Freaking corporates. Right.

1789
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:17,000
Bastards. And corporate America.

1790
02:53:17,000 --> 02:53:19,000
Seriously.

1791
02:53:19,000 --> 02:53:27,000
Next week on the podcast, we'll be breaking down the Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum movie The Lost City.

1792
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:33,000
If you guys haven't seen that movie and want to check it out before we break it down, it is on Paramount Plus right now.

1793
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:39,000
So I I'd say it's worth a watch, but we'll get more into that next week.

1794
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:43,000
But until then, this has been the All Bros podcast.

1795
02:53:43,000 --> 02:53:49,000
I am Jonathan and I'm Caleb and I'm Crash.

1796
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:52,000
And we will see you guys next week.

1797
02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:56,000
Deuces. Peace.

1798
02:53:56,000 --> 02:53:59,000
You stole your line, bitch.