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This week on the podcast, we got nothing for 4k spotlight because there is jack shit coming
out.
My wallet is thinking.
Blu-ray.com, that's all I'm going to say.
Yeah, it must be nice to get a break every once in a while, huh?
Yeah, but August I'm screwed considering Child's Play 1 through 3 are coming out on 4k.
So yeah, that's going to suck.
Yeah, it really is.
But anyway, in due time, we'll talk about that.
So we'll be moving.
So since there's no 4k spotlight, we'll be talking about Through the Wall.
We got some stuff that we want to talk about that happened this last weekend at San Diego
Comic Con.
The first San Diego Comic Con in two years.
It's crazy that it's been that long.
That's wild.
Yeah.
But it's good to have it back.
And then after that, we'll be moving on to our headliner of the evening, which will be
our breakdown of last night in Soho.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
So Caleb, what do you say we get started?
I say let's do it.
All right.
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Alright so, like I said we're skipping over 4K Spotlight this week.
So moving into spook, jeez Louise, moving straight into through the wall, San Diego
Comic Con, shut up, San Diego Comic Con happened this past weekend and holy shit we got a lot
to talk about.
It's we're just going to spoil it for you right now, it's all Marvel.
Yeah, there was a few things in DC that did come out and maybe some other like news outside
of that but Marvel's just, we're Marvel fanboys for life and like as interesting as the stuff
that came out from DC it was not enough for us to talk about.
Yeah.
Every, yeah.
At least personally.
I mean obviously we'll be breaking down, like I think the only thing that came out was like
the Shazam trailer.
That and frickin', I forget who but basically they confirmed that the Snyderverse is dead.
Yeah probably for the best but.
At least people can, yeah so I'm sorry guys, no point in holding onto hope anymore, it's
basically confirmed.
Yeah so obviously we'll be breaking down Shazam when it comes time to do that.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Other than that, probably.
It's all Marvel baby.
Yeah all Marvel.
So starting off, Kevin Feige confirmed that the end of Phase 4 will be coming to an end
with not only She-Hulk in August but also Black Panther Wakanda Forever.
That is the movie that will close out Phase 4 and we will be moving into Phase 5.
And oh my good lord there's a lot, there's a lot, lot, lot to talk about.
Dude that was a ridiculous amount of shit to talk about.
So first up in February, right this is February?
Yep.
We have Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania coming out.
Caleb how are you feeling about this one?
I'm super freaking excited for this one.
Like just the, like have you heard all the shit that's going to happen in that?
I know, I saw that someone leaked freaking Ant-Man interacting with Kang, the Conqueror.
Yeah so someone dropped that, so I saw that too, it's like not too much of a spoiler,
just kind of like a pretty bitching line though.
Yeah what does he say, freaking what is it?
So Ant-Man says that he's like I'm an Avenger and then Kang is like around the corner and
he like comes out and he's like an Avenger and then looks at him and he's like have I
killed you before?
And I'm like that's pretty badass.
I know it's freaking sick.
But I mean I don't really, I don't want to say I don't care about that too much but what's
interesting, so I don't know who this guy is, Andy Park?
Remember Andy Park is, he posted a picture, kind of like a, just an artwork for Ant-Man,
or for Quantumania and it shows Ant-Man, the Wasp, and then Cassie in her own outfit.
Oh shit.
Yeah and then in the background it shows us Kang but Cassie's outfit is all purple and
kind of like a cool mixture between Wasps and Ant-Man's suit.
It actually like more, more resembles Wasps except it doesn't have like wings and shit.
Okay.
So it looks super dope and I'm glad that they're incorporating her because it's just like they
keep adding on shrinking people.
Yeah.
Which is sick.
But one of the things that I'm super excited for, they announced that Modok is going to
be one of the villains in this movie.
Oh no freaking way.
Yeah.
So that's going to be the shit.
Oh shit.
Oh.
Oh damn.
Okay.
Yeah.
So he said, so Kevin Feige said like there is a reason that this movie is sparking phase
five.
And I'm pretty sure that's it.
Yeah.
That would make sense.
Yeah.
So oh my gosh.
So yeah, Cassie's, Cassie's name is going to be Stinger in this.
Okay.
Pretty dope.
But I'm so freaking excited for, for this.
Like one, cause Kang is awesome.
I love Jonathan Majors like so freaking much.
Haven't they confirmed that?
Cause this is, so Kevin Feige confirmed that phase four, five and six are the multiverse
saga.
Yeah.
So didn't he say, or I don't know if it's been confirmed that Kang is the Thanos of
this saga.
I don't know if he said that.
I mean, it would only make sense because Kang is a multiversal threat.
True.
And like it, it's kind of starting to come together a little bit.
Like I know it's like with, it's interesting to like, you know how they say hindsight's
2020 but it's interesting to see how the phases happened or what the fate, what happened with
the phases.
But with what the way that I'm viewing phase four now, like obviously we started off with
Black Widow, which ultimately didn't lead too many places.
I mean, it did kind of give us an idea of the direction that Yelena is going to go.
Even though it didn't take us anywhere, that is still my phase four favorite phase four
movie.
Yeah.
And then it's just, it started opening up like with the shows too, it started opening
up the multiverse and kind of explaining what the multiverse is.
And I think Loki was like a big part of that.
Like obviously, because Loki was dealing with variants and giving us like the names for
everything.
Yeah.
Like instead of alternate versions, we have variants.
And then understanding how time works.
It's like how it branches out and then they opened up the multiverse so everything that
we've seen so far could happen the way that it's happening.
And it's just, it's nice.
Phase four is just opening up the multiverse, is like cracking that egg.
And I think phase five is going to be just a lot more fricking eggs.
Yeah.
I love how you say that.
So it's going to be super interesting.
So I'm super pumped for quantumania.
Followed by that, we have Secret Invasion coming out.
That's going to be sick.
I had no reaction about that.
So Secret Invasion and kind of skipping forward a little ways.
Can't believe you.
Maybe this is going to be interesting.
But anyway, so Secret Invasion kind of leads into secret wars, at least comic wise.
So Secret Invasion was all of the Marvel heroes getting replaced with Skrulls.
Oh shit.
And so you don't know who's a Skrull and who is a Skrull and it just gets kind of like
very like, oh shit, who's who?
Like who's actually here, who's not?
Because all of the Skrulls are acting like they are heroes and then they reveal themselves
and they're like, ha, like surprise.
So I think Secret Invasion is just going to help kind of make us paranoid about, I think
Secret Invasion and the Marvels, which we'll get into, is going to tie in pretty closely.
And then it's ultimately going to help lead us to secret wars.
All right.
So I feel bad that you know so much more about this stuff than I do.
No, I don't know like too much.
It's just kind of what I have been able to gather from comics.
I haven't read either of those.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
What was I saying?
I mean this website also has a link to what it's about.
Oh shit.
Well that's cool.
Yeah so let's see.
It's just the comic event tells the story of Skrull's attempted invasion and conquest
of the planet Earth.
Using shape shifting abilities, Skrulls take the form and identity of numerous Earthlings,
including top dollar Marvel figures.
Skrull empress Elect Veronka adopts the likeness of Spider-Woman and sidles up to her superhero
colleagues over time.
The Skrulls permeate additional groups like S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Fantastic Four.
Interesting.
So I'm wondering if that's the route that they're going to take because this is going
to be like Nick Fury, Mariah Hill, and then Emilia Clarke's going to be in this.
Ooh.
So I'm betting Emilia Clarke's going to be playing that Skrull empress.
Oh that's going to be awesome.
Yeah so, ooh and Martin Freeman's going to be in this too.
Oh hell yeah.
I forget his character, god damn it.
Everett Ross.
Duh.
Oh my god Jonathan, wow.
Yeah so that will be coming out spring of 2023.
Hell yeah.
After that we got, honestly this is my most hyped movie of phase five, Guardians of the
Galaxy volume three.
Woo finally.
Dude that's going to be the shit.
I love that someone asked James Gunn who would be his next lineup for the Guardians team
and he straight up was just like I don't give a shit about the next team up I only care
about this team that I have right now and giving them a proper send off and ending.
Mike, that's why we love you James Gunn.
That's why we love you.
Absolutely.
So this is going to be real freaking interesting.
Dude you can kind of tell that James Gunn and Taika Waititi, I feel like they're the most
notorious and it's most obvious that they only like working with a certain group of
people because the guy that they have, like one of the reveals that they made is that
they're going to bring in this guy to play the high evolutionary which is the person
who experimented on Rocket.
So it's kind of going to, I'm kind of getting Rocket origin vibes.
But yeah, so the guy that's playing the high evolutionary just acted in Peacemaker.
Oh my god is it the, like the leader?
Yeah.
Is it him?
Yes.
Hell yeah, I freaking loved him in Peacemaker.
Yeah so I mean not upset about it at all.
His suit looks freaking sick.
Yeah it does.
But yeah so I think he's going to have a big hand in bringing about Adam Warlock.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
After Guardians 3 we have Echo which if you guys don't know that is going to be based
off the character from Hawkeye, Maya Lopez.
I don't know how many people watched Hawkeye.
Hope you all watched Hawkeye.
If you don't watch Hawkeye what the hell.
Yeah Echo's going to be the shit.
Yes.
Do you think Kate would show up in that or no?
That's a solid maybe.
I don't see Clint.
I don't even know if Jeremy Renner's coming back.
Yeah I mean it would make sense for him to come in since they kind of did have a connection
in his show.
But yeah like she's a, I have a feeling though like Echo is going to be so overlooked by
all this other stuff.
Like it's all the street heroes that I'm afraid of or street I guess anti-heroes.
Yeah, no dude seriously why do you think freaking Black Widow and Hawkeye are my two favorite
things that have happened for Phase 4?
I mean I'm not being bias here.
I mean a little bit.
But yeah I think, I don't think like the Hawkeye show got enough love and I don't think Echo
is going to get enough love either.
Because it's like, I think it's just going to be a really interesting character story.
And I freaking loved her role as Echo.
So I'm so excited to see that.
And then I'm assuming Vincent D'Onofrio is going to be coming back because I mean Kingpin
has been shot in the face before in comics.
So I'm pretty sure he's not dead.
And then they better bring him back to tracksuit mafia.
Dude that would be hilarious.
I really hope they do.
Come on.
It would be interesting for her to take on, ah shit I keep forgetting his name, like her
friend from the tracksuit mafia.
Oh.
That would be a crazy interesting fight.
Yeah.
Oh wait didn't he die?
Um I don't think he died.
I like that.
Spoiler alert.
Sorry guys.
Um let's see.
Okay so we have like a little synopsis kind of.
So the origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez whose ruthless behavior in New York City
catches up with her in her hometown.
She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots, and embrace the meaning
of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward.
Um then it just has a bunch of other people that are going to be in this.
You're talking about Kazi right?
Yes Kazi.
I swear he died.
I thought Hawkeye shot him.
Like didn't, like not killed him but like shot him.
No.
I don't know if Hawkeye did.
I don't know how to look out.
Cause I mean yeah Hawkeye does shoot him but then he catches it.
But yeah it looks like they're gonna do like a really good deep dive onto her um her roots
as a like a Native American.
So I'm super pumped for that.
I'm super freaking excited for that.
So I hope that show is like is good.
Yeah.
But yeah like again not too much else is known about Echo.
Just that.
Like we're getting into a point where it's like we know less and less and less.
Dude seriously though.
I swear.
I swear that he died.
It doesn't really matter if he died or not.
Yeah true.
Anyway so what's after Echo?
Um sorry.
After Echo we got the marvels.
That's gonna be sick.
I'm just excited to see Kamala Khan back.
That's gonna be awesome.
Not Captain Marvel.
Miss Marvel did not get enough freaking love and it pisses me off.
Did you oh you finished the show right?
Yeah.
Okay cool.
Yeah I am so freaking excited for that one.
Oh yeah.
Freaking I'm excited to see Brie Larson and Amon Villani together.
That's gonna be amazing.
No.
That's gonna be really fun.
And I hope that this movie is better received than Captain Marvel was.
We'll see.
I don't know.
I feel after Captain Marvel people hate Brie Larson even more.
That's bullshit.
Like she's amazing.
She is but she needs to work on her stuff not going to her head and also.
Okay was it like I don't think it was shit going to get into her head.
Like I don't know just I don't like her in the interviews that I've seen.
That's fair but I mean yeah I mean it's fair.
She kind of does have a big ego I would say.
But I think in some way it is I think if she is understanding of her role it's tough too
because she does have a very big role in the Marvel Universe now.
Like her and Bruce Banner are kind of like the go-to.
It's like her, Banner, and Wong are like the go-to people for everything now.
Which we saw in the She-Hulk trailer.
Yeah frickin' Wong is just in everything now and I love it.
Yeah I'm not complaining.
But he like he brought in Captain Marvel when it came to Shang-Chi's rings.
Yeah true.
So it's like she's kind of like the leader of the Avengers now or at least co-leader.
Yeah I mean yeah you got a point there.
Like Tony's gone we have a brand new Captain America that's just kind of figuring his shit
out.
We have like it's not a whole lot like Clint's not I wouldn't even say Clint's doing the
shit with the Avengers anymore.
Like he's off doing his own thing.
Yeah literally in the if you look at the bio for Hawkeye it literally says former Avenger.
I wouldn't say former but I wouldn't either.
So I'm excited for the Marvels just to kind of see more of what we're dealing with.
Because I mean we're going to get photon in this I'm assuming as well as Ms. Marvel.
So that's going to be sick.
Yeah okay yeah that is going to be pretty cool.
So I'm excited.
I'm excited for that one.
After the Marvels we have Loki season 2.
We don't know a whole lot about that other than it's filming right now.
Yeah that's really all that we know.
Yeah so that's going to be interesting.
I'm excited for that one.
As much as I'm the biggest fan of Loki season 1 I am excited to see Tom Hiddleston and Owen
Wilson back together.
That's going to be awesome.
Yeah definitely.
Especially now that he like Owen Wilson starting from scratch.
Yeah at least in ways of like knowing who Loki is.
True.
After that we move into something so I find that this was introduced when they announced
phase 4 but we're getting it in phase 5.
We're finally getting Blade with Mahershala Ali.
Yep I'm so freaking excited for that.
I feel like this is going to be Kit Harington's reveal as the Black Knight.
Yeah that post credit scene is actually going to go somewhere.
Yeah hopefully.
From Eternals.
Which I mean it's a year difference.
Like just a little over a year so it's like eh.
Fair enough.
So not a whole lot of information on that other than a release date.
They're shooting for November of 2023.
Okay.
Yeah honestly a lot of these later titles we don't really have a lot of info on it's
just like oh hey you know are we excited or not about it.
Yeah I feel like there's some shows that are missing.
Like what about what's where's Marvel zombies falling into this.
Yeah or what if season 2.
Yeah like because that was announced a while ago wasn't it.
Yeah it was.
I'm freaking when they showed the life of phase 4 they were showing what if.
Maybe they're just like not counting those.
Which I feel is rude but whatever maybe because it's just not canon in the MCU.
Well it is canon though.
Because it's like you could basically justify anything being canon.
Like you could justify the Albras being part of the MCU.
We haven't seen it.
That's what I'm going to start promoting the show as it's like unofficially MCU canon.
Oh shit.
Like you can't prove me wrong.
No you can't.
You really can't.
Every time you hear one of the any character listening to a podcast in a Marvel movie it's
us.
Don't question us.
Anyone listening to anyone that has headphones in an MCU film from now on is canonically
listening to the Albras podcast.
Even if they're dancing they're not listening to music.
They just love our show that much.
Yep.
I would dance to us too.
Yeah.
That would be so freaking funny dude.
I'm going to start taking pictures of people in MCU movies that have headphones on and
be like boom.
Like Albras.
I wonder what they're listening to.
Official canon?
Yes.
Alright after Blade we have Ironheart which has actually no not has been said it has actually
been shown that Ironheart is going to get set up in Black Panther Wanda Forever.
Yep.
So that's going to be awesome.
She's actually going to suit up a little bit in that one too.
Yeah I've seen have you seen any of like the promotional like stuff they've had for like
shirts and it like shows her costume.
I haven't seen like an actual picture of her costume.
I did see the pop figure though.
Okay.
I don't know a lot about Ironheart.
I don't know a lot.
I don't know jack shit about Ironheart.
Okay just imagine a feet like it's basically like how old is she supposed to be?
How old is she supposed to be?
Not very old.
Okay so okay alright I can justify why the suit looks like that.
Yeah she's basically as smart as Ironman and that and like is a I'm assuming is a big fan
of Ironman because she calls herself Ironheart except and she builds her own Ironman armor.
Okay that's pretty badass.
Yeah so it's kind of like early stages Ironman armor like from what she's wearing in Wakanda
Forever or from what I've seen so it's just like very like bare bones so hopefully they're
they improve upon that with the show so that's an interesting show.
Yes and then after Ironheart we got Agatha Coven of Chaos.
That's gonna be fun.
Oh yeah freaking oh my Catherine Han right?
Yep.
That's gonna be amazing to see her back in this role because she is by far or she was
by far one of the best parts of WandaVision so that's gonna be awesome to see her back.
That's gonna be so much fun especially with all like the cool shit that she can do and
she's an Anne she wouldn't technically be corrupted by the Darkhold anymore.
That's true since Scarlet Witch destroyed it.
Yeah so I'm interested to see where...
Unless it is like oh no that happened in a different multiverse.
I wonder if this is like I don't want to be that guy but I'm wondering if this is where
they're going to start to set up the Marvel hell and I know this is gonna sound freaking
stupid with all the stuff that happened with WandaVision but I'm wondering if this is gonna
set up Mephisto at all?
Like I said I hate being that guy because every freaking week everyone's just like oh
it's Mephisto it's Mephisto like no it's not.
So I wonder if this is going to set up the idea of Mephisto.
Should I feel bad that there's like a guy work that literally will always say oh did
you hear about this theory did you hear about this theory or did you hear that so and so
is going to be in this movie did you hear that so and so is going to be in that movie
for everything Marvel and I'm just like no because I don't pay attention to people oh
there's a speculation there's a rumor no I just wait for the damn movie to come out and
see who's in it.
Yeah I trust nothing unless it comes out of like Kevin Feige's mouth.
Yes thank you unless they show it in the actual freaking trailer or in the movie yeah I don't
believe jack shit.
And that's it's just one of those things like I've seen so many freaking rumors about who's
playing like spoiler alert getting like a couple ahead but who's playing Mr. Fantastic
in the Fantastic Four movies.
I'm like we all kind of like I'm until it is said otherwise I'm believing it's John
Krasinski.
I am too even though like a lot of people have said or it's been I don't want to say
speculated because I hate saying that word but the only they're saying is the only reason
or actually wait no I'm sorry Sam Raimi actually came out and said this that the only reason
that he plays Reed Richards Mr. Fantastic is because Kevin Feige was just like okay
you know what let's let's give the fans a little treat they've been hyping up John Krasinski
as a fan casting for Mr. Fantastic let's give it to him.
Yeah so that's like it makes me hesitant to believe that they're going to take a different
route with Mr. Fantastic.
I would love to continue like I thought he had like did had a great performance.
Oh yeah he was great.
I mean from the little that he was in but yeah you know before he spoiler alert got
zoodled.
Yeah so I'm not going to believe any of that shit until we actually like hear official
like anytime I see a Marvel rumor and they're just like oh this is basically confirmed I
go on to like the Marvel social media and if it's not on there I don't believe it.
Freaking I find it funny that so many people were speculating oh yeah they're at this comic
con they're totally going to announce who the Fantastic Four are that it's going to
happen.
No they're not.
No and we'll get to what happened and we'll get to what happened with the Fantastic Four
in a little bit because I don't know what I saw like what happened with Fantastic Four
I'm like yeah I had a feeling they weren't going to do it.
Sucks to be you guys.
So after Agatha we have the new Captain America film Captain America 4 or better known as
Captain America New World Order.
You've missed a show.
I did.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
Daredevil.
I haven't gotten to that.
Well I'm reading the order that they just read off.
Yeah it's Agatha comes out winter 2023 and then Daredevil comes out spring of 2024.
Oh this freaking lied to me I'm sorry.
They put Captain America like the listing that they have to where they just instead
of me looking at the picture them just like reading off what comes in order yeah they
freaking lied.
Are we two separate?
No we're no we're I swear we're looking at the right thing at the same thing but like
I'm not looking at the picture I'm looking at literally what just they typed out and
what order it came out.
So they made a typo and I apologize.
I say it like Caleb said like Caleb said after Agatha we have Daredevil born again
which is going to be a Disney plus series that is 18 freaking episodes.
They better be longer than 20 freaking minutes.
That is all I have to say about that.
I'll bet you money or not.
I'm sorry.
Dude no I will freak I will write it.
I'll put five bucks on this right now.
Five bucks it's on the table.
I mean we've got a while but just know that money is on the table.
I'll take that.
Okay all right I don't think we have for I mean you know it's nice Charlie Cox is coming
back so yeah and he's going to be in a new suit.
Spoiler alert if you haven't seen the She-Hulk trailer which is the best.
It's so much better than the first trailer like even the CGI is better.
You get way more of a glimpse of the story.
The banter between Banner and Walters is just amazing.
Please go watch it.
You will get I really think you guys will get excited for the show.
After this I'm done with trailers for She-Hulk.
Oh same here yeah.
But yeah so Daredevil born again is going to be the shit hopefully.
So by then I can actually watch Daredevil.
Right actually watch Daredevil.
I mean two years.
Isn't it on Disney plus now?
Yeah it is.
I could freaking knock it out.
Yeah super excited for that.
Daredevil is my second favorite hero underneath Hulk.
Nice I love it.
So I'm really excited to see him in action again.
All right now it's Captain America.
Okay next up finally I'm just kidding.
Captain America New World Order I freaking love that name.
That's a dope name.
That is a badass subtitle.
Oh yeah.
Oh my god yeah I cannot wait to see Sam Wilson put on the cap suit again.
Hold that shield.
So excited.
I do hope that they at least make a change to the suit.
Don't get me wrong the suit's great but I feel that it doesn't like it doesn't like
I feel like attached to his his face properly or like there's one area where like it's like
open a little too much that it looks weird.
I think that they just need to scrap that that half cowl idea and just go goggles.
I agree.
I think that would look so much better and isn't that more comic accurate?
No like what they did in for Falcon and the Winter Soldier was as comic accurate as you
can possibly get.
So he does have like the like the cowl that kind of goes along the curvature of his face
and they kind of talk about it they had a CG it because it would like open up underneath
his chin a little bit anytime he would turn his head one way or the other.
So it opened up.
There you go that gives you the reasoning.
Oh hey you know here's your fan service.
The guy in Falcon and the Winter Soldier but for Captain America 4 let's just have him
do the goggles because you have to have the goggles that's signature Falcon.
Yeah I would do like just his normal Falcon goggles but then just change the highlight
like make maybe make them a little thicker and change like the highlight colors to white
call it a day.
Perfect yeah perfect.
I'm so excited I there's so many like possibilities for who the villain of this could be and yeah
I that's one I'm really excited to hear more about as we get closer.
Same here.
And then rounding out phase four we have the Thunderbolts.
Did I say phase four I meant phase five damn it sorry.
Yeah the Thunderbolts is going to be the shit if they pull this off correctly.
I'm honestly excited that I know almost nothing about a lot of these properties that I'm going
to try I don't know some of these I'm going to try really hard not to watch the trailer
or at least not watch like any more advertisements than the first trailer and just go in like
just completely blind just see what's going to happen.
Yeah I'm actually familiar with who the Thunderbolts are and like their backstory in comics.
So I'm really interested to see how they pull this off and I'm pretty sure there's going
to be a lot of setup come She-Hulk time.
Doesn't have Red Hulk Thunderbolts.
The Thunder Red Hulk is a part of the Thunderbolts yes and what intrigues me is the final episode
like they released the title episodes of the episodes for She-Hulk.
Someone like released them all someone like attached the show and the last episode is
called Red.
Oh shit.
Yeah so unfortunately I do have a sinking feeling that Abomination is going to eat it
but Red Hulk is going to take his place.
All right I can accept that.
Who takes the form of Red Hulk?
That is another conundrum because it's Thunderbolt Ross.
So and I unfortunately I feel like they're going to recast him.
As much as it sucks it's just I think that's just a harsh reality.
Because it's like why else would you call them the Thunderbolts?
When you don't have fattiest Thunderbolt Ross.
That's yeah you got a point there.
So it's ugh.
Now who they get to play honestly dude I hope they go back to Sam Elliott.
Yeah that would dude that would make my life.
That would be pretty cool I'm not gonna lie don't you ever oh my god I feel awful who
unfortunately passed away but do you remember his name?
Oh now you're making me feel like an asshole.
Dude same here.
I forgot his name too.
We both are assholes okay I have to.
But yeah so the Thunderbolts is a group of kind of anti-heroes that even like there's
kind of been a couple versions where they play the Avengers.
Okay.
And then so I'm wondering if they're going to kind of mix Thunderbolts with like the
Dark Avengers because it's like are they going to be like disguised as your favorite heroes
or are they going to be like completely different?
Yeah it's interesting.
And wait is Thunderbolts a show or is it a movie?
Um that's a great question.
It doesn't say.
Okay one sec.
I know considering that all of the shows say oh it's coming like during a certain season
or the year but all the movies say the specific day I think it's a movie and considering it's
closing out phase five I'd be very shocked if it was a show.
They always close it out with a movie.
Yeah okay yeah I just looked it up and yeah he's a it's a show or movie.
Okay.
Oh William Hurt that was his name.
May he rest in peace.
Yeah.
Oh I guess we could have taken the indicator too.
All the shows have the Disney Plus logo underneath them.
Oh yeah.
Um.
I was going to say uh wait no Echo doesn't but Kevin Feige is hiding it.
Yeah.
So that's that's going to be I'm I'm okay shows with the shows I'm most excited for
Daredevil.
With movies it is a tie between Captain America New World Order and Thunderbolts.
I love it.
With with Captain America New World Order I have a feeling that's going to tie in really
heavily to Thunderbolts.
I feel that would make a lot of sense honestly.
Yeah I think shit's going to happen to Sam in this where him where he I'm assuming he's
not going to be trusted as Captain America by the end of this.
Yeah I have a feeling like something's going to happen he's not going to be trusted as
as Captain America or be like a leader of the team and then suddenly in come the Thunderbolts
it's the government's Avengers and it's going to include people like Thaddeus Thunderbolt
Ross and US agent and Yelena as the Black Widow and like all those other like characters
that they gather.
Yeah because there's some where I don't know if they would include a bomb like this is
kind of making me wonder like if if or why they would include Abomination because with
Abomination you already got Red Hulk.
So it's like that's why I'm thinking Abomination is going to kick the bucket but I'm also thinking
like the the masses are not going to view Abomination as a hero because he's locked
up and so they know that he's a criminal of some sort.
So if the Thunderbolts are supposed to be heroes I think they're going to lean more
towards the people that are still like outwardly heroes in the public eye.
With I mean with Yelena she's just kind of an undercover person so it's kind of like
the Black Widow situation like they don't really know anything about her so it's like
okay like guess she's a good guy like if she were to come into the public eye.
Yeah.
US agent they're like hey this dude was Captain America until Sam Wilson took took the the
role.
He's kind of like Sam Wilson's kind of like the the rebel cap like he kind of like he
he had the the shield gave it over to the government the government chose the Captain
America and then Sam Wilson came and took it back and then took the role.
At least that's like no like like from our perspective we don't but think about it from
like an MCU civilian perspective.
True yeah true good point.
And then I'm trying to think of some like some other ones so like Thunderbolt Ross it's
just like oh the great general that hunted down the Hulk is suddenly a Hulk himself.
Yeah.
And then I don't know who else they could tie in that isn't outwardly a villain.
Yeah.
Or at least to the public eye.
No.
Because like some people are thinking like maybe Zemo and I'm like nah Zemo like fought
the Avengers.
True like that was just I'm pretty sure that's public knowledge.
I'm pretty sure it is.
Yeah so it's hard for me to believe that Zemo would would join in.
And honestly if they were just to keep it to those three or four like Thunderbolt, Elena,
US Agent I feel like I'm missing one.
And whoever else whatever like that I think that'd be a pretty decent movie like doing
a trio or just like a team of four.
Yeah no I absolutely agree.
But yeah so those are the two that I'm most excited for.
Like I think those are going to be a freaking like badass duo of movies.
Yeah I can absolutely agree with that even though I know a little jack shit about Thunderbolt
so I'm still very excited for that one.
Yeah.
So yeah that's phase five.
And then we don't know a whole lot about what's happening with phase six but we do got three.
But it was announced.
So in phase six we will first be getting Fantastic Four.
So sorry fans or sorry bros you gotta wait till phase six to get your fix.
Which sucks.
I hope they tease them throughout.
I hope so too.
I wonder how I mean I don't know how far they were into writing the script or like what
production was on Fantastic Four but I wonder if John Watts dropping out as director set
them back a little at least a little bit.
I bet it did.
Yeah.
And it's sad that he's not going to direct it.
But I am very interested to see who they get to take the mantle on.
And so besides Fantastic Four already got the two Avengers movies announced for phase
six.
So crazy that we want a phase without an Avengers movie.
That's just insane.
Or sorry two.
We want two phases without an Avengers movie.
That's insane.
But so we will not only be getting Avengers the Kang dynasty but also Avengers secret
wars.
Those are some big ass storylines dude.
I'm really hoping that the Kang dynasty and secret wars tie in together in some way shape
or form because I don't want it to be like the Kang dynasty and then it's suddenly they're
dealing with scrolls.
Yeah that would be kind of weird.
Like I hope that they defeat some version of Kang and then it's like oh you didn't defeat
the ultimate version of Kang even though that might be dumb.
But I don't know.
I'm hoping that they tie in in some way to each other because having two Avengers movies
that are completely unrelated.
That's no bueno.
I mean when phase three was announced wasn't it that the two Avengers movies were titled
Avengers Infinity War part one and part two?
Yep.
Okay.
So Avengers Endgame was never on the table?
At least at that point?
No.
Okay.
Like we knew that it was going to be two different parts.
That's all we knew.
So yeah.
But May to November with if we're going based off of this we're getting so it so something's
going to come out in fall of 2024.
Then it's going to be Fantastic Four and then something else like they just it's just they
haven't announced the stuff yet so they're the slots that they can fill in.
So it looks like they have something two things coming out in fall of 2024 in between those
two things is going to be the Fantastic Four.
Then there's going to be something coming out winter of 2024 and yeah winter of 2024
and then within in the new year of 2025.
Two things in spring then King Dynasty in May two things after Avengers in the summer.
So I'm assuming probably July and August one of those two things being a show or movie
like one maybe one show one movie and then wrapping up the end of the year of 2025 with
Secret Wars.
Yeah.
Damn holy shit.
Yeah so it's just having like it just it'd be like May new show new movie new Avengers
and I'm like yeah that's that's close.
Yeah very much so.
I'm excited either way.
So absolutely.
And I'm just I'm just concerned.
No that that's fair as am I as am I.
Yeah.
Do you have anything else you want to say on Comic Con.
Not really.
There was a couple like just real quick couple animated shows that were announced and looked
at X-Men 97.
Had some sneak peeks or just like kind of looks at the character designs which it looks
like the original X-Men show.
I mean at least they're you know keeping true.
Yeah and they're keeping the original cast to the original cast all come back.
That's even better.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
So we got that we got Spider-Man Spider-Man freshman year coming out that we got a trailer
for I am Groot which is just going to be as like five shorts.
Yeah Groot which look super funny.
And then I this article says that it's everything that was announced but they didn't talk about
the Marvel zombies coming out and that's something that I'm really excited for because they announced
that Marvel zombies is going to be TV MA.
I mean you have to with a zombie show.
Right.
So super pumped for that.
I'm like ridiculously pumped for that because I want to see just how graphic Marvel's willing
to get.
Hell yeah.
Dude.
Yeah I'm excited.
Like I hope that they don't get I really hope that they don't get the their leash pulled
back with like how graphic they can go because with TV MA I mean are you shitting me dude.
Yeah you really don't have to hold anything back.
You don't you like I want to see what's allowed with TV MA.
Three shirts that as long as you're not pulling a frickin like saw level because some saws
have almost received an X rating.
I'm going to see what like TV MA shows there are.
Holy shit.
This is this can be on the same level as Rick and Morty the Walking Dead the boys euphoria
which the boys the the boys is what blows me out of the frickin water.
Dude yes I haven't even seen the boys and I know that show is gory as fuck.
Yeah dude they straight up had a shrinking superhero crawl into some dude's dick and
showed it all.
Oh that's awesome.
Yeah it was.
Yeah well life changing.
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah so Marvel you better frickin come to play.
Like if you don't even get close to shit that I can see on Rick and Morty I will be really
disappointed.
You don't have to go as explicit as the boys but if you can get damn near close we'll be
very happy.
Yeah like I want to see some shit.
Like earn that TV MA rating.
Like oh man.
So I yeah.
Other than that nothing nothing else comes to mind.
I mean like we said the the She-Hulk trailer was really good.
We didn't really talk about Wakanda forever's trailer which it was more of a teaser just
kind of sharing the vibe the movie's going to have.
Oh my god the music was incredible.
I was almost in tears.
Yeah so it showed off a lot of Namor the Submariner who is going to be more of like an Aztec Mayan
character instead of a Spock looking dude.
I love that.
So I'm really excited to see what they do with Atlantis and how they differentiate that
from DC's Atlantis.
But dude Namor looks awesome.
He does.
I love the look that they that they went with him.
And I really want to know what they're doing with with the with Black Panther.
Same here.
We kind of get a sneak peek of like the back of the new Black Panther like where I'm assuming
it's the new Black Panther and it kind of does have some feminine features about it.
So I'm assuming a female is going to take over the role of Black Panther and everyone's
assuming it's.
Shit.
Got bugged.
You good?
I think everyone's assuming that it's going to be Shuri and I'm going to put my money
down that it's not.
My bet is it's either.
Most of my money is going down on it being Nakia.
But I do think it'd be really bitchin if they went with Akoya.
Oh yeah.
I honestly you know what I'm putting all my money on Akoya.
That would be the shit wouldn't it?
It would.
Oh my god that would be so badass.
That would be awesome.
So yeah because it's like it like think about it.
How do you obtain the title of Black Panther or hold the title of Black Panther?
You have to fight for it.
Like that is the tradition of the Wakandans.
You have to fight for the title of Black Panther, protector of Wakanda.
So you have to think it's someone that's a super badass fighter.
I don't think Mbaku is going to go for it because he's I think he has like a lot of
respect for T'Challa's family.
I would love to see him as Black Panther.
I think he'd make a really good Black Panther but I don't think that that's the route that
they're going to take.
And so I don't I don't see Shuri being the type of person to take on that role.
I think she likes being kind of the only fighting when she needs to.
That's a good point.
And so I think with Nikiya being a spy and wanting to do all this protecting for like
the African people and maybe make I think she's going to get like have that sense of
like of call to action.
And then she's going to obtain Black Panther's abilities.
Oh yeah I would love to see that.
But my mom's still on Akoya.
Story wise, story wise that's the route I would take.
Like I don't know what Ryan Cooler is planning on doing but that's the route I would take
in a heartbeat.
I think there's just so many like deep dives that you can go that way with knowing who
Nikiya is at like her heart.
She is a defender.
She's freaking amazing or she does stealth work and she wants to make a difference in
the world.
Like how else do you make a difference in the world than becoming the freaking Black
Panther?
It's true.
That's very true.
So I'm really freaking excited for that movie.
Same here.
I'm going to need more before I'm like completely sold but yeah really excited.
Can't wait to see what else we get from the trailers.
Alright well that is going to wrap up through the wall.
Yeah only an hour in.
Hey that's okay.
It's all good.
So let's say we move into our headliner.
Say let's do it.
Alright so this week's headliner will be breaking down the Edgar Wright film Last Night in Soho.
Kayla would you like to let everyone know how we break down movies on this podcast?
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final Albrows letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get added up and spit out a percentage that gives us a letter grade
to compare this movie to other movies.
And so if you have not seen Last Night in Soho please go check it out.
You can watch it on HBO Max right now.
You will not be disappointed in the slightest.
No you will not.
Yeah minor spoiler alert for this episode.
But anyway.
So if you have not seen it Rose is about to spoil the entire movie for you so if you listen
past this point and it is spoiled for you it is your own damn fault.
What he said.
Alright so.
Eloise Ellie Turner loves the music and fashion of the swingin' 60s and dreams of becoming
a fashion designer.
Her mother also a fashion designer killed herself in her childhood so Ellie was raised
by her maternal grandmother.
She occasionally sees her mother's ghost in mirrors.
Ellie moves from her rural home near Redruth Cornwall to London to study at the London
College of Fashion where she has trouble fitting in with her peers.
Only John, another student, is sympathetic to her.
Unhappy in the residence she moves into a bed sit owned by the elderly Mrs. Collins.
That night Ellie has a vivid dream where she is transported back to the 1960s.
At the Cafe de Paris she observes a confident young blonde woman, Sandy, inquire about becoming
a singer at the club.
Sandy begins a relationship with the charming teddy boy manager Jack.
The next morning Ellie designs a dress inspired by Sandy and discovers a love bite on her
neck.
Ellie has another dream in which Sandy successfully auditions at a Soho nightclub arranged by
Jack before returning to the same bed sit that Ellie has rented.
Inspired by these visions Ellie dyes her hair blonde, changes her fashion style to match
Sandy's, uses her as an inspiration for her dress designs, and gets a job at a pub.
She is observed by a silver haired man who recognizes her similarities to Sandy.
In further dreams Ellie discovers Sandy is not living the life that she had hoped for,
now being pimped out by Jack to his male business associates.
In her waking life Ellie is disturbed by increasingly menacing apparitions that resemble Jack and
the men who exploited and used Sandy.
After she has a vision of Jack murdering Sandy she decides to track down the silver haired
man who she believes is Jack.
She goes to the police but is not taken seriously so she tries to find newspaper reports about
Sandy's murder.
Instead she finds stories of local men who vanished without a trace.
Believing she must avenge Sandy, Ellie confronts the silver haired man.
He denies killing Sandy and leaves the pub but is struck by a taxi and killed.
The pub landlady reveals that the man is Lindsay not Jack and Ellie recalls encountering him
in her dreams where he was an undercover vice officer who tried encouraging Sandy to escape
her life of prostitution.
Ellie informs Ms. Collins that she is leaving London.
Ms. Collins then reveals that she is actually Sandy.
Ellie's vision of Sandy's death was in fact a vision of Sandy killing Jack when he threatened
her with a knife.
Sandy then lured the men she was pimp to back to her room and killed them hiding their bodies
in the house's floorboards and walls.
Does this scream John Wayne Gacy to anybody else?
That's all I'm saying.
Man, I knew that shit was coming.
I actually had that thought when watching it when I'm like, oh the dead people are like
underneath the floorboards and then the wall?
I'm like Rose is going to bring up John Wayne Gacy.
You know me so well.
That I do.
Ms. Collins has also drugged Ellie's tea and intends to kill her to ensure her silence.
In the ensuing scuffle, a cigarette ignites a fire.
John comes to Ellie's aid but Ms. Collins stabs him.
Ellie flees upstairs to her room where the spirits of Sandy's victims beg Ellie to kill
Ms. Collins but she refuses.
Ms. Collins enters Ellie's room where she too sees the spirits and is slapped by the
ghost of Jack.
With the police outside, she attempts to cut her own throat but is stopped by Ellie who
tells her she understands why she killed the men and begs her to live.
Ms. Collins, as Sandy, tells Ellie to save herself and John and stays in the house as
it burns.
Sometime later, Ellie enjoys success as her dresses are showcased at her end of the year
fashion show.
She is congratulated backstage by her grandmother and John, now her boyfriend.
Ellie sees her mother's spirit in a mirror and then a vision of Sandy who waves at her
and blows her a kiss.
Dude, this was such a treat of a movie.
This was such a surprise and oh my god, I loved every minute of it.
They did an amazing job at keeping you engaged throughout the entirety of this film.
Like, no freaking joke.
This is just Edgar Wright and you know the shit Edgar Wright's done before, right?
Mmhmm.
Yeah, he did.
Well, freaking he's directed one of my favorite trilogies ever, Shawna the Dead, Hot Fuzz
and The World's End.
Yeah.
And did you know he also did Scott Pilgrim?
Yeah.
I mean he was going to do Ant-Man but unfortunately, you know, conflicts of a...
Dude, Ant-Man would have been the shit if Edgar Wright directed it.
Nothing against Peyton Reed.
No, absolutely nothing against him.
It's just...
I would have loved to see...
You're not Edgar Wright.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Dude, this was so freaking good.
I mean, like the story, like it made sense.
Like it wasn't some like long overdrawn like murder mystery.
Like it was just...
We were taking a ride along with Ellie.
Like along with her.
We were figuring out just as much as she was figuring out.
And it was so nice, like it just felt like...
Like whenever she was taking off guard, I felt I was taking off guard.
Oh yeah, same here.
And it was so good.
Dude, like when she went to expose the old man and like thinking that he was Jack and
I was just like...
Like started recording him and everything and started getting him to talk about it.
I'm like, oh, this old man is going to freaking spill it.
What I thought was that he was going to basically admit to everything and then have like his
younger bodyguards come and attack her or something.
But the way...
Oh my gosh.
Like when he goes outside and I'm just like, don't follow him.
I think you got what you needed and then gets hit by the car.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, he was like the owner of the bar or the pub saying like, he
was a cop.
I was like, yo, what?
Like even Ellie...
It felt like me and Ellie were reacting the exact same way.
I'm like, oh shit.
Oh shit.
It felt like Channing Tatum in 22 Jump Street.
Remember that scene?
A little bit.
Yeah, a little bit.
It was so cool.
It felt like...
And I think Edgar Wright just does a great job with writing his characters.
They feel like people you know.
Like Ellie started feeling like someone that I knew and grew this relationship with.
Because he sets her up so good.
Like sets her up as someone that's kind of like fun loving, carefree.
Kind of has this weird thing about her with seeing ghosts and shit.
But other than that, nothing too out of the left field.
And then it's like, hey, she's getting picked on by these high school fashion bitches.
And you start...
You feel for her.
And then it starts getting into the crazy stuff.
And you're like, hey, I know you.
We have this relationship sort of.
And now we're getting into the weird shit together.
Yeah.
I will also give him credit that I loved that he wrote John as an actual...
And this is more so writing, but I just want to bring this up in the story.
That John was actually just a genuine guy that really cared about Ellie.
Literally he never tried to make his character out to be a bad guy.
He never changed his character towards the end and turned out to be a complete dick.
No, he was a genuinely nice guy through and through.
And I just loved that.
Yeah, that was great.
It's still had that feminism energy about it without it being like too all men should
die.
Yeah, no, no, that's a good point.
I feel like some other movies that we've scored, Charlie's Angels...
Ghostbusters Answer the Call.
They feel a little bit too anti-men.
And this was just...
This felt like anti-shitty men.
Yes, which is what you want.
Yeah, exactly what you want.
And I wish we had someone like a female perspective about this movie.
Like to see if we're like...
I really wish Brielle would get on one of these episodes.
I know.
Dude, I've been trying to talk her into it for so long.
She just won't.
Literally ever since we started.
Yeah, like ever since we started.
And it's just getting harder and harder to get her to join.
Damn.
Yeah.
But anyway, I really appreciated this story.
And it was interesting, intriguing.
It had a plot twist that like...
Like it made sense.
You know what, now reading the bio, I kind of feel stupid for not noticing when she's
scrolling through all those old newspapers that I didn't notice the, oh, this certain
amount of men or this certain man goes missing without a trace.
I don't know how I didn't notice.
Oh yeah, that leads to it being Mrs. Collins.
Well does it though?
Well, I mean, it just leads...
Okay, maybe after seeing the movie now, I'm like, oh, I should have gotten that.
But at the same time, it's like, well, no, when you're watching the movie for the first
time, not really.
Like, okay, like from a normal movie watcher's perspective, like when did you like catch
it?
When did you catch the reveal?
That she was the killer?
Yes.
When she said that she was the killer.
Like you didn't catch it when they showed her name or anything?
When they showed her name?
Yeah.
So you know how in the flashbacks, Sandy would say, oh, my name's Alex, my name's Alexandra.
And just like, because like Sandy was part of her nickname, her aliases.
And so that's kind of like when it showed her male and it showed like Alexandra, I forgot
her last name, but yeah, like it showed her male and then it like that was supposed to
be like the oh shit.
I don't know if I did, honestly.
My question is how tired was I when I was watching the movie?
So I like I think that was the moment that it was supposed to be like, oh no, like that
was the reveal.
I caught on to it after the old man got hit by the car and died.
That you know, yeah.
And it's just because it like subverted my expectations or like my idea of where this
movie was going in such a like a drastic fashion that I started like, oh shit, like questioning
like, OK, so he's dead.
It wasn't he's not Jack.
We haven't seen Jack yet.
Like who the hell like.
Like are we going to like suddenly go find Jack?
And I felt like, oh, maybe that like that'd be a little bit weird.
Like oh shit, maybe it's the the landlady.
So that's it's kind of like a weird roundabout way of like getting there because I'm like
at this point, they're not going to introduce Jack like old man Jack.
Speaking of Jack, this is going off tangent, but please tell me on TikTok, you have seen
like the Titanic fan like 97 and like what he does in his videos.
Like buying the ridiculous amounts of Titanic.
Yes.
Every time someone says Jack now, that's like where my mind completely goes.
I'm like, son of a bitch.
Jack more copies of Titanic.
That was a pretty good impression.
Well, thank you.
How does he have like friggin 227 copies now?
Oh, you haven't seen his most recent one.
He's almost 300.
Jesus Christ, who needs that many copies of Titanic on VHS?
Someone that wants to get famous on TikTok.
Yeah, true.
You know, just to close out if like he wanted to end it, it would be amazing if he actually
got to meet Leonardo DiCaprio.
That'd be pretty dope.
That'd be the perfect way to end it.
Like have him like, I know this would never happen.
Or getting like a restraining order from the two of them.
Friggin imagine him asking Leonardo DiCaprio to sign every single copy.
I'd be like, no, I'll take one big Sharpie and sign over all of them.
There you go.
It's like, here, I'll do you one better.
How about you take a picture of your whole display and then I'll sign that picture.
There you go.
Oh, man.
But anyway, getting back.
So that's nice.
I had a feeling that they weren't going to introduce old man Jack.
Like we thought we were we were around old man Jack already.
We knew that he was being super shady and everything.
And then once he died, I was like, OK, they're not going to introduce him at this point.
Like we're nearing we're nearing the end of this.
Yeah.
So that's where I started thinking.
I'm like, OK, who else is being super sus?
The only other person I could think of was the old lady.
Yeah, that's that's a good point.
And I'm like, oh, shit, like that's like because we hadn't seen anyone else in her visions.
It's always just been Jack and Sandy.
So I'm like, Sandy's alive.
Yeah.
Like I said, I don't know how tired I was because no, I get it.
Pick up on that.
Yeah, it's just it's just I feel like I'm I'm pretty decent at picking shit like that
up.
You are.
I try to follow along with this story that they're giving me.
And then it's like once they do some sort of twist, that's when my mind goes like a
million miles an hour and figures it out.
I love it.
Oh.
Yeah, can we talk about even those movies, frickin two hours, it frickin flies by.
Absolutely.
Like for how frickin good it is.
It flies by so quick.
It in the best way to apps.
Yeah, absolutely.
It still gives you like a really like chunky story to like swallow and take down.
But it never feels super long.
No, it's just it's just that sweet spot of movies and like aligned with like the amazing
pacing that it had and everything.
I'm really frickin high with story.
Same here.
Are you in the high 90s?
I'm in like the mid 90s.
OK.
Like, I think I'm in like 94 range.
You know what?
I can match you there.
Yeah.
What about writing?
So moving on to that.
I might score that a point higher, actually.
Really?
Yeah.
I was going to go the opposite direction.
Really?
I think the writing was actually a little more solid than the story.
The only thing about the writing that I didn't care for was when Ellie was talking to like
Jocasta and her grandmother.
I felt like it just felt super weird and.
Man, maybe that's more of an acting issue, but it's just I don't care for like over
the top bullies.
And I think Jocasta crossed that line of over the top.
She did.
She's such a bitch.
That's the best way to describe it.
She's a bitch.
Yeah.
Like you are you are not wrong.
It's yeah, I.
The rest of the dialogue, though, was was really good.
A lot of like Sandy's, like what we saw of hers was really good.
Jack's was was frickin solid.
Like Jack was scary.
Yeah, dude.
All of the writing in the 60s was beautiful.
So frickin good.
Oh, I would love to.
I would just love to be able to spend at least one day in the 60s.
We so cool.
Yeah, I mean, not in this type of situation, not in the sex worker kind of way, but maybe
like hairspray.
Well, OK, wait, no, actually, maybe not hairspray.
Because, you know, segregation and I don't like that shit.
Damn well, OK, you know what?
I don't know when I'd want to live in the 60s.
It's like maybe I just want to go to a 60s party.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But it was.
I don't know.
It was good.
But the like the dialogue seemed like was pretty solid throughout.
And I don't know, I think they just killed it with the story.
And for whatever reason, it's just the dialogue for me.
I didn't really have any issues like story wise, because on paper, the story is just
perfection.
But it's just when you kind of get into the nitty gritty details of the dialogue is where
it starts to drop for me.
Yeah, you know, you got a point.
You bringing up the especially the grandmother and god damn it.
I'm not down a lot.
I'm still in the 90s.
I am too.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
But I'm definitely not a 95.
Yeah, I'm more in the 91 range.
I'm going to go a point higher than you.
I'm going to go 92.
OK.
All right, moving on over to acting our main cast.
They freaking put the cast in a weird order.
I'm just going to do it.
All right.
So we have Thomas and Mackenzie, who played Eloise or Ellie.
Anya Taylor Joy, who played Sandy.
And then we have Matt Smith.
Wait really quickly.
Sorry, just one.
Isn't the lady that played Sandy, isn't she playing the voice of Princess Peach in the
Mario movie?
Anya Taylor Joy?
Yeah.
Yes, she is voicing Princess Peach.
OK, you know what?
Yeah, I'm sold on that.
Are you really?
I am.
I don't know why.
I love her voice.
And so I'm just like very interested to see what she'll do with Peach.
So yeah, I'm like I don't I haven't seen a lot of stuff with her.
I haven't seen it with her in.
Oh my God.
She hasn't been in a lot of shit either.
OK.
Well, I mean, this movie kind of proved that I'm interested to see what she can do.
Yeah.
So yeah, Anya Taylor Joy played Sandy.
We have Matt Smith, who played Jack.
Diana Rigg, who played Miss Collins.
And then her boyfriend's name was John, right?
Yeah.
OK, he doesn't have a picture.
The John was played by Michael.
A Joe.
Yeah.
So gosh, the top three is this is like a tough top three in like a good way.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
What are you thinking?
So number three, I would give to Anya Taylor Joy.
I thought she was great to Sandy.
Fantastic performance.
And like I said, this was literally the first movie as far as I know that I've seen her
in.
And she she definitely sold me on this role.
Number two, I would actually give to Tomas and Mackenzie.
And it's really close between her and number one because she was so good.
And she was so good in that scene towards the end where literally she as she is like
seeing Sandy getting stabbed to death and she's like freaking out in her room and John's
trying to help her.
Shit, dude.
The emotion on her face.
She had me terrified.
Right.
And that's just such amazing acting from her.
And just oh my God, I'd love to perform in so much incredible.
I hope to see her in so much more after this movie.
Agreed.
And watching that scene when she's watching Sandy get stabbed.
I could feel my heart racing, which doesn't freaking happen with you know, I was getting
freaking goosebumps.
I know me too.
It's awesome.
I loved it.
I was like, this is nuts, dude.
Like I could.
It almost got to the point where I didn't pause it, but I felt like if I don't calm
down, I need to pause this.
I'm going to have a panic attack.
Yeah, I could like feel like you ever like get that feeling where you could feel your
heart throughout your entire body.
It's like that's a situation I was having like I'm having a heart attack right now or
something like this is nuts.
Oh, shit.
But yeah, so.
Shit.
And then number one, I have to give to Matt Smith because oh my God, he was freaking terrifying
in this movie and I loved every minute of it.
He was amazing.
Like I said, it's so close between him and Thomasin.
Yeah, dude.
I absolutely agree with your top three.
Yeah, I like the only ones like where.
The only one that I'm like I could flip flop at any given point is Thomasin and Matt Smith.
Like if you were to if you were to switch either one of those, I would not disagree.
So good.
And with Thomasin McKenzie, the it's just.
Her terror was contagious and she has such expressive eyes and the fact that she was
doing like a costume where she had like black completely around her eyes.
So it was like nothing was there to distract from her, just the sheer terror in her face.
Yeah.
And it was just haunting.
Like I was like I said, I goosebumps throughout the entire thing and I felt like I was having
a freaking heart attack.
It was.
Nuts.
The it's so my gosh.
And she.
Man it like she like throughout the entire movie, she sold her fear and her panic so
well, like not not even taking into account the stabbing scene, which is just.
Master class.
Yeah.
Everything like everything else that she was able to do and pull off was incredible.
Like when when she was getting.
Basically chased by these faceless figures that were holy shit terrifying.
Oh my God.
Seriously.
Yeah, we got to talk about that and effects.
Yeah.
But yeah, when she was getting chased around by those like just the sheer terror that she
was able to portray.
Like I said, was contagious.
Like I was getting nervous.
I'm like these aren't even that scary of like creatures like I mean.
They were scary and like really scary design, but I mean, I feel like I've seen scarier.
And it's just yeah, it's got my heart racing.
I'm like.
Like I was nervous.
I'm like, how they're going to get you.
So yeah, she she pulled it off so well, but Matt Smith, dude.
He went from charming and just flip that switch so hard and fast every time he was on screen.
He was he was so scary.
And gosh, he plays such a good.
Antagonist.
Yeah, I mean, if you really have to try to find a positive of Morpheus, at least you
can tell that he's having fun with him playing a villain.
Yeah, and he plays an amazing villain.
So yeah, I'm giving him top spot just because he was just more consistently.
Like have me feeling like everything that I was supposed to be feeling with him like.
Oh, like that dude smooth as shit and and then just completely switching the switching
over to terrifying and just.
Horrifying.
Yeah.
But yeah, and then on your Taylor joy, I mean, she.
There's no discounting her performance here either.
I know that we're just kind of like swooning over Thomas and and Matt, but on your Taylor
joy did an amazing job.
Like.
Oh, man, she she's an amazing actress and she really is.
I think given good things to work with, she's incredible.
And given something that's kind of subpar and not really great, like New Mutants, she
can be one of the better parts.
You forgot she was in.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, well, we don't talk about that.
We don't talk about that movie.
Yeah, so I mean, she was able to.
Amplify her performance in New Mutants to a point where it was bearable to watch her.
Yeah.
And I haven't seen Queen's Gambit.
I hear that's really good.
But yeah, she's an incredible actress.
Is she.
Was she is she the girl from Split?
I think she is.
I will look that up real quick.
She had black hair, though, and then she she's in splicer.
Awesome.
Split and Glass.
Yeah, she played Casey.
Yeah, dude.
Again that another performance of hers that was just absolutely incredible.
Like she is an amazing actress and Thomas and two.
I I can't wait to see more shit of hers.
Seriously.
Oh my God.
All right.
Where are you sitting with acting?
Honestly, it's it's my highest score so far.
I'm going on ninety five.
Really?
Yeah.
Maybe acting was that good.
I even like the extras.
I did too.
Not counting Jocasta, I mean, I felt like she was super bitchy, but that was the point.
So yeah, I can't dock her for that.
Yeah.
Actress played her character very well.
Yeah.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go a little lower than you.
Just I'm going to go to a ninety four.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Which will average us out to a ninety four point five.
All right, next up, we got character development.
Which this one's kind of tough to do.
Like, is this movie considered horror?
Yeah, I don't know.
It is.
Yep.
It's considered a drama horror mystery.
So should we do that?
Yeah, I think we need to do logic with this one.
OK.
They did really freaking well at.
They did.
I mean, you have to like think about the world that they set up.
Ellie is able to see spirits.
The.
And she sees these these spirits and is able to live life through their perspective.
And she can be hunted down by them like some of the ghosts like can see her like she sees
her mother at the beginning.
And I think they follow that rule really, really well.
The only rule that I think that they kind of skimped out on was touch, because when
she was in that first vision and she had the hickey on her neck.
It's like, OK, so she was able to get a hickey from this experience.
But then it's like.
It's tough when you get to the point of.
The Sandy getting killed.
Because you're like, OK, she should be experiencing this part of it, too.
That's a very good point.
So it's it's tough there for me to be like, OK, they followed it perfectly.
If they would have cut that part out.
I. I would have said flawless.
Yeah.
But it just brought up interesting questions.
Another interesting question that it brings up.
Why was.
Oh, shit.
Why was Miss Collins able to see the spirits?
That's a good point, too.
Shit.
Yeah.
So I think that's something that they they.
Maybe needed to address.
I think it would have been interesting for Sandy to have a similar.
The issue about her where she's able to see spirits.
Like and I think they could have addressed that in a flashback where maybe she's.
Even if it was just like ignoring her or what they could have done is just like show her
kind of staring off into a mirror or like a mirror in the background of some scenes showing
random.
Like spirits.
That's true.
If they would have shown that, then it kind of would have led us to believe like, oh,
she can see them, too.
But we didn't get any of that.
She just broke in and saw the spirits and it's like.
Like what happened there?
Yeah, no, no, you got a point there.
And I was I was trying to like think of like a good way to justify why.
Like, oh, maybe she just had never been in that room.
But then I was thinking like, no, she walked through the room earlier in the movie with
no problem.
So it's not that she's avoiding that room.
It's like it's.
I don't know.
It's just that's the.
That's the only thing that I have a hard time with justifying.
Yeah, I absolutely agree.
Other than that, they. Maintained their.
The realism of their world really well.
Yeah, no, I so I mean, it's hard to dock for anything.
This might be my lowest.
Yeah, same here.
Are you still in the 90s or in the 80s?
I think I cracked into the 80s.
Yeah.
Not by a lot.
I'm in like the 88 range.
You know what?
I'll match you there.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up, we got effects.
So the big effect here was all of the stuff they were able to do in the vision sequence
where it was switching off between Ellie and Sandy, which blew my mind.
It fricking and this is like my favorite shot of the movie is when she pulls up the sheet
over the first night and it just keeps pulling out to a wide shot.
Oh my gosh, dude.
I was so cool.
Right.
Oh, my favorite shot of the movie.
Just oh my God.
I fricking loved it.
I really like that shot.
But the other one that I really liked is when they were walking.
On the staircase with the mirrors going down.
And so it shows like it's like kind of a top down like front view.
So you can see all the mirrors.
But Jack and Sandy are like walking down these steps.
And then in the in the mirror, all you see is is Ellie.
Like that was crazy.
Such a cool effect.
All of that shit, like any time that they passed by a mirror, they did some really cool
effects with that.
Yeah.
Frickin even when she's like on her bed and like she's seeing Jack or she thinks Jack
is murdering.
Oh my Sandy.
Frickin like I love it because I straight up thought that there was actually like a reflective
mirror above her, but it turns out there's nothing there.
Trippy as shit.
Dude, they they did incredible.
And then the designs for the the spirits of like the lost men.
Holy shit.
Those were so terrifying.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like those will haunt my nightmares.
Yeah.
Whew.
So good.
Like it's it's an interesting way of portraying it, too, especially like with how Miss Collins
explained it, saying like I try to forget their faces and it's like you kind of have
like a general idea of what they look like.
But there it's just like their face is distorted in some way, like where you don't see the
eyes, you don't see their mouth or any of their facial features.
It's just like a blank face that's slightly like distorted.
And it's so good.
Yeah, really is.
I think one of the craziest scenes was when she comes into the room and as it opens, like
she's like when she's able to see all of the the spirits.
Yeah.
Yeah, like the way that all their faces clear up and she can see like see them clearly and
has that like moment of panic.
Like that was really, really well done.
It really was so good.
So good.
Yeah.
And then then.
Oh, my gosh.
Then breaking into that room where everything seemed like it was glass.
There were there were not very many scenes in this that I had issues with, if any.
I can't think of any off the top of my head.
Yeah, I got nothing.
Yeah, everything looked super good.
If I had any complaints whatsoever, I would say maybe they needed a little bit more work
on the throat cutting.
There.
But that is such a minor complaint to me because it was still terrifying to watch.
Yeah.
Oh, damn, I think I might be in the 90s with this one as well.
Like they.
Yeah, everything looked real, even like the shit that wasn't real.
Like everything looked.
As real as it could be.
Really did.
Like, I'm trying to think of something to freaking judge, but I can't.
Yeah, I got nothing.
Where are you at?
You know what?
I'm at 97.
A 97?
Damn.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude, I love the effects that much.
Not quite at a 97.
I think I'm like more in the 95 range.
OK, I get that.
But that will average us out to a 96.
All right, next up, we got music.
Oh, bro, don't get me started.
This soundtrack was so good.
This was a spoiler alert.
If you guys haven't figured it out yet, we this is a damn near flawless movie.
Seriously.
Oh, my God.
It's so freaking good.
Dude, every single song that they played was.
Like, was really good, it like.
It framed the ideas behind the scenes like the lyrics did, like, excellently.
And I'd say that the only thing this was missing was something like super catchy, but I think
it would have been distracting had they done that.
Agreed.
Absolutely agree.
So man, I think I'm at a nine.
Same here.
Damn it, bitch.
Why are you messing with me?
Sorry, my freaking computer is being stupid.
There we go.
Oh, like you piece of shit.
Yeah, I love that they were able to incorporate the songs into like the flashbacks.
Like when she was listening to the record of.
I forget what her name is.
OK, whatever.
There's a song that is is playing in her first like that she's listening to before she goes
to bed in on her record player and you hear it with like the record clicks and sounds that
like record players make.
Or the static that you'll you'll hear.
And then as soon as it switches, like when she's in the the dream sequence and she walks
into the club and hears the actual singer singing it like the way that they transition
into that was amazing.
It's just like they were like they were taking the static and just turning it down and more
and more and more until it wasn't like static, no static.
It was like fading into it until it sounded like perfectly clear.
Yeah.
And it's great.
It was so good.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I loved it.
Love the soundtrack to this.
All right, moving on over to our so the average is out to a nine for music.
Next up, we got costumes.
It's just as good.
I have to agree with you on that one.
They were really frickin good.
Nothing that like if I were to see it, I would instantly think, oh, last night in Soho.
But fair.
I mean, maybe her pink dress.
But that one's a solid maybe for me.
Yeah.
I wasn't necessarily the biggest fan of like the pink dress.
Honestly, I might I might have actually I might mistake that for something being from
hairspray, honestly.
Probably.
But yeah, like even though I wasn't necessarily the biggest fan of like that outfit, I do
understand what that meant for the movie.
Just kind of having that borderline iconic outfit.
So I feel like it works.
It worked really well.
The rest of her outfits were were pretty good.
Obviously, it's to the 60s.
So you can't go wrong with any of the outfits that they they had and the way that Ellie
changed her her hairstyle.
And like that was awesome.
I think that was the biggest thing for me.
Like once she switched, I'm like, oh, that really that suits her really well.
Yeah, it did.
Like, holy shit.
Yeah, so I think I'm about the same as music.
I'm at a nine.
Yeah, same here.
I think personally, like if I were to judge this like being like not a critic and just
like Caleb's score, I'd be more like a seven.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah, because I'm like, yeah, personal preference.
Nah.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Anyway, I think that was the biggest thing for me.
Anyway, moving on to personal score.
I'll take this one first because I freaking enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
This was this was one that I I saw the trailer of and for whatever reason, it really stuck
with me and I couldn't pinpoint why.
Like I even like went back and watched the trailer to see if there was anything in particular
in particular that caught my eye.
And I think it was just the back and forth goes like switching between Ellie and Sandy
that really got me.
I'm like, that actually looks like an interesting premise and like didn't didn't realize who
had directed it.
Didn't realize like that he'd Edgar Wright had written it as well.
So it was like all these things I just I didn't recognize, but I really like.
It caught my eye is what I'm getting at.
It caught my eye.
And I wasn't planning on being as impressed with it as I as I was.
So I absolutely love this movie.
I am absolutely going to be checking this out again.
And this might have cracked my top 10 movies.
Love it.
Like it was just that good.
There's so many.
It's like how I felt with Scott Pilgrim, too.
It's like there's so many details in that movie that you can miss.
And like, yeah, I think it's just one of those things you need to re rewatch.
I think Edgar Wright might be one of my favorite directors as well as the.
Oh, balls.
Who?
The twins.
Who directed the is it not?
I'm forgetting their names.
Shit.
The Coen brothers.
Ah.
Yeah, the Coen brothers are like my top favorite and I'm like directors and I'm thinking Edgar
Wright is like right behind there.
So yeah, absolutely enjoyed this movie.
Cannot recommend this movie enough.
So with that, I think I'm going to be in like a 97.
Hell yeah, I love it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Everything like you said, this was such an amazing film.
I had such a great time.
I love Edgar Wright even more now.
Like I said, he's directed one of my favorite trilogies of all time and I didn't think I
could love him even more after that, that those those three amazing comedies.
But I love me more now.
Yeah, if you guys have a chance, please check this movie out.
If you want a very good horror crime drama, this this is definitely one to watch.
It's so, so good.
So I'm going to actually match Caleb going to 97 as well.
Wow.
OK.
All right, well, with that, that concludes this week's breakdown.
And the final Albrose letter grade for Late Night in Soho has come to what?
You said late night in Soho.
Last night.
So last night.
Sorry.
Last night in Soho has come to an A minus.
Hell, yeah.
Love it.
Yeah, really fricking good.
So it is sitting at a ninety two point six two percent, which is definitely one of the
stronger A minuses that we've had.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so damn.
So I'm comparing this to the other A minus movies.
It all right.
So last night in Soho has scored in ninety two point six two percent, which puts it above
Spider Man into the Spiderverse, which is at a ninety two point five nine.
It puts it above Pulp Fiction, which is also at a ninety two point four three or which
is at a ninety two point four three.
It is above Joker, which is at a ninety two point three seven.
Wow.
Wait.
Oh, yeah.
And then it is also above the Bob's Burgers movie, which is at a ninety two point three
seven as well.
Wow.
Holy shit.
Right.
And then go in the opposite direction.
It puts it below Encanto, which is at a ninety two point eight one.
It is below Avengers Infinity War, which is at a ninety two point nine three.
Puts it below Room, which is at a ninety three point zero six.
Puts it below War of the Planet of the Apes, which is at a ninety three point one two.
And then finally puts it below Avengers Endgame, which is at a ninety four point zero six.
Wow. But Avengers Endgame is actually at an A, not an A minus.
Oh, OK.
It's just I go five up, five down.
No, I get you, man.
So yeah, it's one of our higher.
A minus movies.
That is awesome.
Yeah.
So out of all the movies that we've scored like.
This ranks.
Number nine.
Oh.
Yeah.
So our top ten right now looks like.
So this is our top ten.
In order from top like top to bottom.
It's Spider-Man No Way Home.
Then Bohemian Rhapsody.
The Battle of Buster Scruggs.
Avengers Endgame.
War of the Planet of the Apes.
Room.
Infinity War.
Encanto.
Last Night in Soho.
And then Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse.
It's a damn solid top ten, I'd say.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I don't disagree with any of these.
Yeah, neither do I.
So congratulations to Last Night in Soho for cracking our top ten.
That is a that is a well deserved.
Yeah, well deserved.
Well earned.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
That's where it's sitting at.
Sweet.
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Deuces.
Suck it.
Asshole.
Suck it.
So long.