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What is up bros, I'm Caleb.

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And I'm Jonathan.

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And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews

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out there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the all bros.

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This week on the podcast we have absolutely nothing to talk about other than our breakdown

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this week.

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So we will be getting straight into that.

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Yeah, we'll be getting straight into our breakdown of the Black Phone, which we are a little

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late to the game on reviewing.

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That is true.

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Yeah we're figuring our shit out.

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Or attempting to at least.

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Yeah we let you guys down.

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Honestly what's new?

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I mean you know, damn, you didn't give us credit.

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God damnit I f'ed that up.

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Why did you give us some credit?

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Yeah I know.

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Anyway, so without further ado let's say we just get straight into this breakdown.

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Let's do it.

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Hello my name is Brecker Nurse and I want to tell you about my fun horror movie podcast

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called Autopsy for Horror Movie.

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On my show I like to have fun dissecting out what makes a horror movie scary, what worked

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for it, what didn't, what types of fears it's a playoff of.

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Is it an allegory for any sort of message?

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I don't know but let's find out.

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Also I like to watch slashers.

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I'm a big slasher guy so I'll watch a slasher and do a kill grade for it.

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I will cover the kills and I will tell you how I would grade it based on shock, method,

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style points, and a fourth category that is a reflection of the movie.

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Besides those I will have fun with special topic episodes, commentary tracks, interviews

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with guests including some shutter directors so I just like to have a fun time over here.

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If any of this sounds interesting to you or you just want to come check me out please

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head over to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere they listen to podcasts and search for Autopsy

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for Horror Movie.

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Also be sure to find me on Instagram at Brecker Horror where you get fun updates and some

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cool little posts that I do.

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Thanks for listening and I hope that you get to enjoy this show and I'll see you on Instagram.

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Bye.

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Alrighty getting straight into this week's breakdown.

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If you guys are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different

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categories that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

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music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.

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All of those numbers get magically added up and thrown into our algorithm.

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It spits out a letter grade when we're all done.

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So with that if you have not seen The Black Phone it is currently on Peacock to stream

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right now.

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You will have to have a premium membership which kind of sucks but this movie doesn't

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so go check it out.

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It's the same way for Halloween kills so not surprised.

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So please do yourself the service of going to check this movie out.

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Like I said it could be on Peacock.

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You can probably rent or buy it from other services like Voodoo or Movies Anywhere, YouTube,

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whatever.

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So Voodoo kind of has like a weird thing where occasionally a movie won't pop up on Voodoo.

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I'm trying to think of one.

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Okay so you remember that Office Christmas Party movie?

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Yeah so that one will show up on Voodoo or yeah that one will show up on Voodoo but it

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won't show up on Movies Anywhere and then there's another one where it will show up

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on Movies Anywhere but not Voodoo so I kind of use both of them.

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Just wondering if you were having any problems with playback because yeah for some reason

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excuse me when I try to watch something on Movies Anywhere I will just say oh yeah this

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movie is not built to watch and I'm like bitch I bought it.

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So what you telling me that for?

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Oh man.

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So I don't know what's going on with Movies Anywhere at least for me it's not working

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it's being stupid.

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Voodoo for a while either.

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I need to go in and update that I'm a few movies behind.

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Yeah you do I did buy a movie and add it to your collection last night.

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Nerve.

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They had it on sale for five bucks.

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Yeah that it's basically it's in New York and it's that game where they it's like are

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you a watcher or a player and if you're a player like you can people dare you to watchers

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dare people to do certain stunts.

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Oh okay I do remember seeing that movie that movie wasn't too bad.

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Yeah right that's what I thought because I mean so I have it but I guess I never sent

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you the digital code so I already knew it was expired so you know what at the five bucks

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I didn't feel like pulling out my phone to watch it.

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But yeah so those are the ways that you can try and watch the Black Phone but if you have

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not seen it yet go check it out and then come back and listen to this episode because it

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is super worth it.

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So with that Rose is about to spoil the entire freaking movie for you if you have not seen

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it so if you listen past this point and something gets spoiled for you it's your own damn fault.

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Damn right.

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All right in 1978 a serial childhood doctor named The Grabber prowls the streets of a

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Denver suburb.

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Siblings Finney and Gwen Blake live in the area with their abusive alcoholic father.

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At school Finney is frequently bullied and harassed.

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He has a friendship with a classmate Robin who fends off the bullies.

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A boy from another school that Finney knew Bruce is abducted by The Grabber.

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Gwen who has psychic dreams much like her mother dreams of Bruce's kidnapping when

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she sees that he was taken by a man in a black van with black bullets.

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Detectives Wright and Miller interview Gwen but struggle to believe her claims.

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The Grabber abducts Robin as well as Finney days later.

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I'm not saying that like oh I know you know how to kidnap a kid but I feel I should not

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have started that sentence with that.

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But I feel that he abducted these kids way too close together.

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Like if he didn't do it super close together they needed to address that.

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Because what was throwing me off is like how Finney and Gwen were talking about like oh

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this like Bruce's dad's putting up posters again and I'm like how long has it been like

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a day or two?

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So that's what I initially thought.

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I was just like okay so what's the time period in all this?

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Later Finney hears the phone ringing and answers it.

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Bruce's ghost unable to remember his own name or who he was when he was alive tells Finney

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about a floor tile he can remove to dig a tunnel to escape.

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The police search for Finney is unsuccessful.

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The grabber brings Finney's food and leaves the door to the basement unlocked.

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Finney prepares to sneak out but is stopped by another boy on the phone called Billy.

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He explains that it is a game that the grabber plays and he's waiting upstairs to attack

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Finney with the bell if he leaves the basement.

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Billy instructs him to use a cord Billy found to get out via the basement window.

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While climbing Finney breaks the bar on the window preventing him from climbing back up.

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Gwen dreams of Billy being abducted and confides in her father about what has happened.

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Wright and Miller speak to the eccentric man called Max who is staying in the area with

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his brother.

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It is revealed Finney is being held in Max's basement which he is unaware of and the grabber

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is his brother.

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After an agitated exchange with the grabber where he tests Finney's honesty he makes it

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seem as if he would have let Finney go.

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Finney speaks to another one of the victims Griffin on the phone.

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Griffin shows Finney a combination 2A lock and informs him that the grabber has fallen

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asleep upstairs.

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Finney sneaks upstairs and unlocks the door but the grabber's dog alerts him of Finney's

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escape.

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Finney flees down the street but is recaptured.

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Despondent over his fear of the temps Finney answers the phone to hear another victim a

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punk called Vance whom Finney was scared of.

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Vance informs Finney of a connecting storage room he can escape through if he breaks a

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hole in the wall and exits through the freezer on the other side of the wall.

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Finney creates a hole with a toilet tent cover and enters the back of the freezer only to

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discover that the freezer door is locked.

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The phone rings one more time with Raman at the end of the line.

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He comforts Finney and encourages him to finally stand up and fight for himself.

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He instructs Finney to remove the phone receiver and pack it with the dirt he had dug up to

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use as a weapon.

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Gwen dreams of Vance's abduction and discovers the property of the grabber.

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She finds the house in context right in Millen.

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Max realizes Finney is being held in the house and rushes to the basement to free him but

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his brother kills him with an axe.

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The police rush to the house that Gwen found but find it empty.

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In the basement they find the buried bodies of the grabber's victims.

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The grabber attacks Finney with the axe but Finney manages to trip the grabber with the

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cord causing him to fall into the tunnel Finney dug where the grabber breaks and traps his

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ankle in the window bars placed at the bottom.

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The ghosts taunt the grabber over the phone before Finney breaks his neck with the phone

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cord, killing him.

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Finney distracts the guard dog with meat from the freezer and escapes the house using the

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combination he learned.

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Finney exits the house across the street from the grabber.

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The grave sites where he reunites with Gwen and the police rush to the property.

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The siblings comfort each other as their father arrives and tearfully apologizes for his

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treatment.

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Back at school, the confident Finney sits next to his crushing class.

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If there's anything about this story that I would call bullshit on and this is even like

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applying the fact that they have this supernatural element where there's a phone on the wall

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that's disconnected.

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I am calling 100% bullshit that Finney was able to bust a boy sized hole in a concrete

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wall with a porcelain toilet cap.

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There's no way in actual hell.

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I mean, you're a lot more handy than I am so I wouldn't have even guessed that but good

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to know that that is highly implausible.

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It's porcelain dude.

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The actual shit is so freaking fragile.

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It is so fragile.

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I'm like to think and like not even that.

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It didn't even seem like it was like actual concrete.

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cake where it has just like one layer of like solid concrete where it's more like plaster

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and then it like on the inside is dirt because he was able to like dig his way through and

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I'm like, no.

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I thought that was the shit you're calling out.

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Not even that, it's like how perfectly he was able to dig that hole.

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Like it was a perfect square with perfectly straight lines and everything.

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Like it looked like it was carved out and I'm like, no.

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Like there's a lot of shit in this that they got right but this is where they just kind

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of really dropped the ball.

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And this is taking into consideration that we have a freaking witch child that can see

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the future.

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I will admit, it probably wasn't meant to be funny but the fact that I think it's like

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after she does all of this praying to Jesus and everything, I think and when she comes

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back home one day, first sentence out of her mouth, Jesus, what the fuck?

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I laughed so hard.

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I can't remember.

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No, she's talking Jesus.

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Jesus?

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Oh yeah, I laughed.

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That probably wasn't meant to be that funny but that was funny.

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Dude, that was really freaking funny.

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I think they did some weird things with the dad.

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Like he was a character that I wasn't super for.

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Like obviously he's a heavy drinker and whatever and like an abusive father.

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Dude, I almost started freaking crying when he was beating the sister.

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That was hard to watch.

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That was super hard to watch and extremely unnecessary.

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Very.

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Like just not even like I don't want to see that shit and like not even like that's like

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not a problem.

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Like if you need to beat a child for story's sake, like beat a child.

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I don't care.

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But it just didn't tie into the story whatsoever.

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It felt so weird that he was like he was getting mad because detectives had to come talk to

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him at his work.

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And I'm like, so what?

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Yeah exactly.

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Boo hoo.

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Yeah, I'm like the detectives come and like announce to everyone that your child has visions.

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Like that's that'd be weird.

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That'd be funny.

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Yeah.

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But it's just like it didn't make any sense.

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I'm like they would have taken him like aside or whatever or something that wouldn't have

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made it seem so like freaking public.

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Or they made it sound like it was a spectacle that was made of him at work.

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And so he beats the shit out of them, gets her to be like my dreams are fake.

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My dreams are like dreams are just dreams.

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And then they go on to the rest of the movie and then they show that he goes to that Gwen

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goes to him again and talks to him about the dreams.

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I'm like, you didn't need him beating the shit out of her.

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Like if if truly that was like the relationship that they had where he was like that hot headed

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to beat a child, she would not have gone to talk to him.

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Yeah, that's that kind of it just kind of made the the whole like that conversation

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about their mother seems super just out there for me.

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I'm just like, there's no way she wouldn't trust him to go talk to him about that shit.

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Like hey, you know that guy that beat the hell out of you last time when you brought

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up visions?

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Like now you're going to go have a little chit chat about it with him now.

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Absolutely not.

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But putting those things aside, this was a freaking solid ass horror movie.

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Yeah, it really was.

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Like, like, oh my God, like, I can't say enough good about how how good the story is.

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Like I mean, I will say, though, you pointed out, I don't know why this just bugged me,

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but just the fact that like he kidnapped these kids just so close together, there had to

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be someone that would have like seen something and then like maybe someone suspicious.

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Because like, is it when they're walking home, is it pointed out what kind of vehicle the

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the grabber drives?

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The biggest black van.

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So they do mention that.

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OK, I can't remember.

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Remember, he's driving the van with like abracadabra on it.

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It's like a big, you know, but I just didn't know if like it had gotten around to like

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all the kids.

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Oh, hey, this is the no, no, no.

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No, they did not know what the guy drove.

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I think they they just knew that there was a guy called the grabber out there somewhere.

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OK.

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So I don't think yeah, the kids didn't know anything about that.

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Yeah.

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I will say I did find it very interesting that whenever the grabber would grab his next

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victim, that Finney was the only victim that we actually saw the whole struggle of the

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rest.

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You literally just see the white van and they're not the white van, the black van in the distance

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and the kids walking towards it or like that one kid, actually two kids, I think, riding

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their bike towards it.

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And then it just fades into the next scene.

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And loved that shit.

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Yeah, that was really good.

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So did the way he's not very smart about the way he goes about taking them.

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No, he's not.

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Like I like I knew what was coming with Finney and just the fact that he did it in like broad

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daylight like, yeah, especially when like, yeah, when a bunch of other kids were walking

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home behind him.

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Yeah.

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Dude, serious?

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There had to be at least one kid that was able to get their parents' attention and the

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parent come out before he left.

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Someone would have seen something.

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Yeah, in that situation.

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But I mean, I personally would have, I could see how Finney fell for whatever the hell

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was happening.

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I don't know how the other kids would have, what they would have fallen for.

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Because with Bruce, the first kid that we see get abducted, or supposedly, like we don't

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see him like get abducted initially.

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But seeing him like riding his bike and it's just the black van making a turn and kind

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of cutting him off with the van.

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So it's like, okay, what did he do to trick him?

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Or did he just like jump out of his van and go like balls to the wall and like kidnap

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him?

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I mean, I'm gonna assume the latter.

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And then the little Mexican fighter kid, like what the hell did, what was up with the cape?

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Like it looked like he was walking towards his van to meet him up, meet up for something.

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Like what was up with that?

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Fair enough.

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I mean, I don't know if I was a kid, I wouldn't be walking behind alleyways of stores.

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But this is me.

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I mean, we say that, but we rode our bikes behind stores all the time.

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Fair.

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I also hit a backpack behind a store one time.

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That was a very stupid idea.

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Do not do that kids, because you will get the cops called on you because the store will

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think it's a bomb.

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There's a life lesson for you kids who if kids even listen to this podcast.

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Yeah, learn from our mistakes.

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Yep.

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Can't believe you got the cops called on you.

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That's hilarious.

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I know dude, like straight up.

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It's like they have the bomb squad there with like the robot all out and everything and

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you just like they're getting everything prepped and you just kind of like walk, grab your

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backpack and walk off.

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Dude at that point, if I saw like all those people there, yeah, I would have just said,

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all right, F that backpack.

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There was nothing special in there.

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I'm going home.

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Like is my name on anything in that bag?

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Thankfully, there wasn't.

324
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Yeah, dude, that's so funny.

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Oh man.

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But yeah, so I really, there was a lot of stuff that they did really well with this

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story.

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Like it was, they were able to build like the tension really strong and I'll be real,

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and with the, when they came to, to Max, so the, the grabbers older brother and like we're

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interrogating him and he was talking about like, oh, well these are all the locations

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that the kids were grabbed and like basically doing all, like presenting his, his findings

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and then it did like the pan down to Fanny.

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Did you think that Fanny was in his basement?

334
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No, I thought that was just a cool transition to the next scene.

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That's what I thought too.

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I was just like, okay, like Max is on to something.

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Like he, like I, the way that I viewed that transition was like, Max is like right on

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top of this case.

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Like Max is going to be the one to fricking crack it.

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And I mean, he, I wasn't completely wrong.

341
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Yeah, he was on top of it.

342
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Yep.

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You can definitely say that.

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Oh man.

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I love that when he like comes down and like storms like, oh my God, I knew I wasn't crazy.

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You know, I can't come upstairs so I can actually show everybody that, you know, like somebody

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was actually going on down there.

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I love that he doesn't first ask, are you okay?

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He doesn't care about the kids will be.

350
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Yeah, right.

351
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Dude, that axe to the head was brutal.

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Like God, that was extremely brutal, dude.

353
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Holy shit.

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What did you think?

355
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I mean, I guess it really wasn't a twist, but like with Gwen having these visions of

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a particular house and when she finally finds the house and they go in and break into the

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house, the twist of the kids being like that being their grave, but then Finney's like

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right across the street from them.

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I thought it was a great twist.

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I will say one thing.

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This is what a Gacy should have done.

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He did not need the help.

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Fair.

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I'm just saying he should have had two houses, one where he killed the kids and then another

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one where he buried the kids.

366
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Jeez, you know how much you could come you need for two homes.

367
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Like come on.

368
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Did you see how much he was making with his construction company?

369
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,480
No, because you haven't released that episode yet.

370
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Oh, well, I'm sorry.

371
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Oh dude, man was rich.

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John Wayne Gacy actually made a very good living off of having his own construction

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company.

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Honestly yeah, if he would have buried the bodies at one and then killed them at the

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other, it would have been perfect.

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And if he ran out of space at the other one, just start burying them in the one that you

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killed him in.

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There we go, problem solved.

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It could have gotten at least another 15, Gacy.

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That's so fucked up.

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I'm going to shut the fuck up now.

382
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And Rose is about to get cancelled.

383
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We're going back to the All Bro show here.

384
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Yup.

385
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So it was nice knowing you guys.

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Oh man.

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Anyway, I really, really liked that kind of twist because when they went in and the house

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was empty, I was like, oh shit.

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I thought they were going to do some sort of time travel shit where it's like she's

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having all these visions and it's just like kind of too late for Finny, one of those things.

391
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I kind of would have been pissed, honestly.

392
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I know.

393
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I would have too when I started thinking about it, but I'm just like, gosh, they're going

394
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to do some time travel shit or something along those lines or maybe the grabbers actually

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adult Finny and fit like, I don't know.

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Like dude, I'd be out if that was the case.

397
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It was a really implausible theory to have.

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I understand that.

399
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But nonetheless, it is one that I had.

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So all right, fair enough.

401
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:10,400
It like my theory would have completely like butchered how good this movie was, but it

402
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,400
was so good.

403
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It had like a super solid flow.

404
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I would say there's maybe one or two spots where maybe it was like dragging a bit.

405
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But other than that, it was pretty freaking good.

406
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It really was.

407
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So other than that, I had close to no issues.

408
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I mean, other than the stuff that I brought up.

409
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So where are you sitting at with the story?

410
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I am very high.

411
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I'm at 95.

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95 shit.

413
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I was actually just a tad lower.

414
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Well, I would say a tad lower, but I'm sitting at like an 89.

415
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I didn't quite crack into the 90s for me.

416
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Fair enough.

417
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,080
At least just personally.

418
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The issues that it brought up and it's just, you know what?

419
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I lied.

420
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My issues now that I'm thinking about it, because it's like the toilet bowl thing, like

421
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cracking concrete and some of the other like twists and turns that they did.

422
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,240
I think that's more of a writing issue than a story issue.

423
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So I'll bump up my story score to like a 92.

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So I'll dock for writing.

425
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Fair enough.

426
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,520
But even so, the writing on this was really solid.

427
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,320
The dialogue was really good.

428
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,560
I think my only problems are some of the stuff that I brought up in story where it's like

429
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the dad beating Gwen.

430
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,880
Yeah, definitely.

431
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,000
That was very unnecessary.

432
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,340
And at least, well, you need to either eliminate one of those scenes.

433
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You either need to eliminate him beating her or you need to eliminate her going to talk

434
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to him about her dreams.

435
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Yeah.

436
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Either one of those things, if you eliminate, I think drastically improves the character

437
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of the dad, I feel.

438
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I think if it were my choice, I would have eliminated the talk about the dreams.

439
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That way it's like he beats her.

440
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They just don't talk or whatever.

441
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He doesn't go to her and then she like goes behind his back, calls the detectives, like

442
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does all these things and eventually finds Finny.

443
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,960
And they, I would say the detectives go to the dad and tell them like your daughter's

444
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dreams are what helped find your son and then have him have that breakdown where he's like,

445
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I'm so sorry.

446
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,480
Yeah, I think that would have worked a lot better.

447
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:30,120
Yeah, it's just, I think it was just lacking a little bit.

448
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It was odd.

449
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,600
It was just odd.

450
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Sorry, other than that, I can't really think of anything off the top of my head.

451
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,880
So what were you saying?

452
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
No, I was going to say, I feel the bet.

453
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,800
One of my favorite lines from this movie delivered by Ethan Hawke was when it's the scene where

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he, he's asking Finny what, what's his name, you know, all this stuff.

455
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And he's just like, why do you want to know my name?

456
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I'm not going to tell you.

457
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,640
And he's like, oh, okay, that's fine.

458
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I'll just find out in the paper.

459
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:08,720
They always give such amazing like info on you boys a lot more than what you guys would

460
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,160
tell me or, and I also get to see what you guys lied about.

461
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840
I'm like, that's so fucked up.

462
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,840
It totally was.

463
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,600
I was like, oh shit.

464
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,960
And then Dan started thinking too, when he started asking that I'm like, they've waited

465
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this long to release a newspaper about him.

466
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And then when he pulled it out and like threw the newspaper down and be like, called him

467
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,760
out for being a liar.

468
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,640
I was like, shit.

469
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,480
I was, uh, yeah, dude.

470
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Yeah.

471
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840
When he froze it, I was just like, and I was just starting to like you, Finny.

472
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,560
I was thinking of letting you go.

473
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
I'm like, ah, I know.

474
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,040
Well, no, he wasn't going to let him go.

475
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,040
I know.

476
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
That's one of those things.

477
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
I'm like fricking stupid kid.

478
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Just tell him your name.

479
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Yeah, exactly.

480
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Exactly.

481
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,960
Oh man.

482
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Dude, that was so good.

483
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Um, gosh.

484
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:15,840
I really liked the dialogue that he had or the communications that he had with the past

485
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,840
victims.

486
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Yeah.

487
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Oh my God, dude.

488
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Those were so, so good.

489
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Yeah.

490
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,280
I like how scary they made those scenes.

491
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,800
Seriously.

492
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:38,160
The fricking punk rock metalhead kid that always got into fights, his like kind of scared

493
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,440
the crap out of me, if I'm being honest here.

494
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Yup.

495
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Dude, it was fricking nuts.

496
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:55,760
But like the fact that like literally Bruce had only been gone for what, like maybe a

497
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,760
month?

498
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000
That I don't know.

499
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Like I said, this is another thing I'm probably going to dock for.

500
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,720
They did not set up a timeframe very well.

501
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:14,320
Yeah, they didn't because when Bruce answers first and he's just like, oh, hey, you're

502
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Bruce.

503
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,680
We played baseball together.

504
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,680
We were on separate teams.

505
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,880
He's just like, oh, so that's my name.

506
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,880
I had forgotten it.

507
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,920
I'm like, okay, how long does it take for them to forget their name?

508
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,280
I think that's like an instant thing.

509
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,280
That's an instant thing?

510
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,280
Okay.

511
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:36,480
That's what I gathered because it's like, okay, he knows of these kids.

512
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,640
Yeah.

513
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,300
Like he knows all of them.

514
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:47,120
So they were all abducted and killed within a period of time that he remembers.

515
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,120
Like the punk rock kid.

516
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Yeah.

517
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:55,380
Like he knows of like Billy's name or Paperboy, whatever you want to call him.

518
00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:57,600
Like he knows of Paperboy.

519
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:06,440
He knew or he knew and feared the punk rocker had the interaction with Bruce.

520
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,560
And then what was his face?

521
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,600
The one with the bike lock?

522
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:19,360
No, not the Robin.

523
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,320
Yes.

524
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Yeah.

525
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,720
And then Robin was like, wait, wasn't the bike lock kid?

526
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:27,720
Billy?

527
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:28,720
No, no.

528
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,720
Or was that a different one?

529
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,080
Yeah, it was two different kids.

530
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,080
Okay.

531
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,520
Was that like a super scary kid that was like upside down?

532
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,520
It might have been.

533
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Yeah.

534
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,520
I think you're right.

535
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,520
Yeah.

536
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,160
So what I was thinking of was Robin.

537
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,320
Yeah.

538
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,880
All of those interactions were just freaking, so he knew of all of them.

539
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:03,680
He knew all of those kids in some way, shape or form.

540
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:10,480
But what really scared the ever living shit out of me was when he was talking to them

541
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,080
and then they would just kind of suddenly appear.

542
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,960
But what was terrifying about it is that they were in like this ghostly form.

543
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,000
It wasn't even like ghosts.

544
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:31,320
So for those of you who haven't seen it, that I continue to listen, Finny doesn't see these

545
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,320
people.

546
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640
It's only for us.

547
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:42,840
And their faces are usually covered by a shadow and they're just really, really dark characters.

548
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,640
They kind of have like a grim reaper feel about them.

549
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,800
But what I really liked is that when they were talking, it doesn't sound like their

550
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,680
normal voice.

551
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,320
It sounds like how you would hear them through the phone.

552
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,760
And somehow that made it freaking scarier.

553
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,920
Dude, yeah, straight up.

554
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,880
I'm going to add this with the effects, with the effects or the makeup that they had on

555
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,840
those boys, like from the blood to the dirt.

556
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Because you could definitely tell that after seeing the other house where they were buried,

557
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,640
thinking back to when you saw them, you're just like, yeah, a bunch of like all of them

558
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,440
were covered in dirt.

559
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:31,520
You could see resemblance of dirt where they had been buried up or dug up, sorry.

560
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,640
It's freaking so scary.

561
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:45,320
And whichever kid was the one that was like that Finny ended up seeing, the one that was

562
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,240
like hanging upside down.

563
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,800
I know he saw him and then he also saw the paperboy.

564
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Are we sure he didn't see them all?

565
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,200
I don't think he saw them all.

566
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:03,760
I think the only one that he didn't see was Bruce because he saw, oh my God, what's his

567
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,760
friend's name?

568
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,760
Robin?

569
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,440
Yeah, so he saw Robin, he saw the paperboy.

570
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,040
When did he see Robin?

571
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,160
That's when he, because remember Robin's like showing him the technique of like step back,

572
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,600
step forward and then swing of how to fight with the...

573
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,540
He didn't see him.

574
00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:25,120
Like Robin was behind him.

575
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Well, sorry, no, I mean like the times that we actually like see their ghosts.

576
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,560
Oh, okay.

577
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Yeah.

578
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,560
Because...

579
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:39,720
Finny didn't see them like we did as audience members, but yeah, Finny never, at least he

580
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,480
never acknowledged that he saw them.

581
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Yeah, that's true.

582
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,720
But as far as I know, the only ghost that we didn't see was...

583
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,680
Oh my God, what was the football player's name?

584
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,320
Not football, God damn it.

585
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Baseball player's name?

586
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,120
Bruce.

587
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,440
Bruce.

588
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
From what I remember, he's the only ghost that we did not see.

589
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,880
All the other ones we do catch a glimpse of.

590
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,440
Yeah, that's what I'm recalling too.

591
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:10,800
Yeah, but dude, fricking nuts.

592
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:21,040
And then I will get into it with like costumes and stuff, but yeah, everything else, like

593
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:27,760
the dialogue, everything felt like really freaking solid on that.

594
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,140
Like we've already addressed the issues that I had.

595
00:39:30,140 --> 00:39:38,280
Most of it was with the dad and maybe some of the detectives were a little like dry.

596
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Like I think they could have made the detectives more memorable characters.

597
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,520
But again, that's just a writing issue.

598
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,920
So I think I'm going to give writing what I was originally going to give the story.

599
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,600
So I'm going to go in 89.

600
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
You know what, I will match you there.

601
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Alright, next up we got acting, which we have Mason Thames who played Finny.

602
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,060
We have Madeline McRaw who played Gwen.

603
00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:20,640
We have Ethan Hawke who played the Grabber.

604
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,340
So those are the main three I would say.

605
00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:34,160
And then we have some lesser extras and whatnot, like including the dad, the detectives, a

606
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:43,360
couple of the boys that were victims that were killed.

607
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:49,300
So how would you rank the three, like the three main?

608
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:52,160
Number three I would give to Finny.

609
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,800
I thought the kid was great, loved his performance, he did a great job.

610
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:03,440
But I would actually say that I enjoyed his sister Gwen's performance just slightly more.

611
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,120
So you're giving her two?

612
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:11,420
Yeah I'm going to give her two because I feel it really caps off of how great this child

613
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:14,960
is as an actress is that whole beating scene.

614
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,400
Because you can feel the emotion in her eyes, it's so freaking heartbreaking.

615
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:27,480
Dude, oh my gosh, this doesn't happen very often but another we freaking matched up on

616
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,040
our top three.

617
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,940
Hell yeah.

618
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:39,240
Number one I'm going to give to Bruce, I'm just kidding, no.

619
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,800
No number one without a doubt it's Ethan Hawke.

620
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,880
He is incredible in this movie.

621
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:54,440
He's scary as hell and the emotion that he's able to convey behind a mask with his eyebrows

622
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,400
and everything when he takes off part of the mask is freaking terrifying and it's so freaking

623
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,400
good.

624
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,160
He is so freaking good.

625
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,560
He is definitely number one.

626
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,140
He is haunting and I don't know if we've ever seen him in, I mean I know we've seen him

627
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:19,680
in a villainous role before with Moon Knight but like horror wise I don't know if we've

628
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:26,680
ever seen, like he's always kind of played the more or less the victim like what the

629
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,020
bad stuff is happening or who the bad stuff is happening to.

630
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:35,640
I don't know if we've ever seen him like in a role like this and he just blew it out of

631
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,600
the freaking water.

632
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,520
As far as I know we haven't but yeah no absolutely great.

633
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,000
Blew it out of the freaking water.

634
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:52,080
Yeah he is so just a master class and like you stated with the mask like having to act

635
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:58,320
behind a mask I hear from what I've like heard actors talk about in like interviews with

636
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:07,320
them acting behind a mask is extremely difficult because you have to put in a lot of like body

637
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:16,760
language that you can't, that unless you're like trained to do it can be really difficult.

638
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Like I know Hugo Weaving like had a really hard time with it in Viva Vendetta when he

639
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:31,400
was in a mask the entire time and it was a full face mask but he was like theatrically

640
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:41,080
trained to so he has acted behind a mask before and you kind of have to act with your body

641
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:47,640
when you're being like in a theatre because not many people can like get close-ups on

642
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,640
your face.

643
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:54,240
Like the only people that are going to see your face are maybe like the first few rows.

644
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,800
Everyone else is going to be like super far away so you have to act with your body and

645
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,200
he did that amazingly.

646
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Dude and he got freaking yoked for this movie.

647
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,240
Yeah like damn.

648
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,080
Like which is weird for a horror film.

649
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:20,680
I mean I don't know when this was shot compared to Moon Knight but I'm just wondering if he

650
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:27,800
got fit for Moon Knight and he was coming off of that for this or?

651
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,920
So Moon Knight came out this year right?

652
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,360
Yes.

653
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,040
So this is a 2021 movie.

654
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Oh.

655
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:44,560
So it would have been this and then he would have started working on Moon Knight.

656
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Okay nevermind.

657
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,040
This is kind of weird to get yoked for a horror film.

658
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,280
Yeah but it worked.

659
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Like he wasn't like chiseled or anything like for like those that don't have that frame

660
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,880
of reference.

661
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,480
Like he wasn't chiseled or nothing but he kind of had that like old-timey bodybuilder

662
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:18,240
feel where it's just kind of like a big chest and like just a strong core.

663
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:25,640
Like no abs or anything but just built.

664
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,120
And it was so scary to see that.

665
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:35,560
So for those of you that don't or that haven't seen it so he left the door unlocked and then

666
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:44,440
he sits at the top of the stairs in his kitchen with a freaking belt and then he's like shirtless

667
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:53,520
and so his so he's like just sitting there in the chair and he looks massive the way

668
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,520
that they had him sitting or shot or whatever.

669
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:05,480
He looked freaking insanely big and it was like terrifying because he's also sitting

670
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:14,400
there in his creepy ass mask and it's just like anytime they showed shit like that that's

671
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,200
where I was like oh this is going to be nuts.

672
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Agreed.

673
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:33,640
So yeah freaking like just like you said master class for Ethan Hawke and then yeah I think

674
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,760
the actress for Gwen sold it a little bit better than Finney did.

675
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:45,960
So yeah absolutely agree with your ranking.

676
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,880
Where are you putting your acting?

677
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:56,040
I'm going to go 90.

678
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,960
That's actually exactly where I'd put it too.

679
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Hell yeah.

680
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:07,520
Alright moving on over to character development but with this being a horror movie it's going

681
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,520
to be the logic.

682
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:17,920
So how did they follow the rules that they set in place?

683
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,040
I feel for the most part they did a great job.

684
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,480
I think they did too.

685
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:36,200
One thing that I kind of like began to pick up like why like did they okay when Finney

686
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:43,200
was talking to one of the boys and was talking about like oh did you guys hear the phone

687
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:50,760
and they said like we heard it ring but we couldn't hear what was on the other side right?

688
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:58,600
I started like putting together that Finney also obtained some of his mother's gift for

689
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,280
hearing things.

690
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:08,400
And that's why he was able to hear who was on the other side of the phone.

691
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Oh that's a great point.

692
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,000
Yeah kind of like his sister.

693
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:22,600
Like his sister had like the sight and like was able to have like full blown visions but

694
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,060
I think with Finney he's just not quite as tuned into that kind of stuff.

695
00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:35,000
So it took a situation like this for him to unlock that ability.

696
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:41,040
And yeah so they kind of had like that spooky shit.

697
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:49,720
Like supernatural wise the only thing that they have is like the phone that rings when

698
00:48:49,720 --> 00:49:01,320
one of the boys like past victims wants to speak and then Gwen's visions that she has

699
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:08,480
and usually they're in dreams but she did have some full blown visions like out in the

700
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,760
town.

701
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:18,660
So that was really interesting to watch and she kind of was I like how when she was talking

702
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:24,840
to Finney about it and saying like oh that's not how it works, that's not how it works.

703
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,440
And then she was able to like hone in her ability.

704
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Alright so anything else like did anything stand out to you that maybe wasn't quite like

705
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,840
on the up and up?

706
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,960
No not really.

707
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,640
Not that I can think of.

708
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:58,680
I mean I really want to know did was it ever explained why he left the black balloons at

709
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,680
the crime scene?

710
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,240
No I think it's just his thing.

711
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:08,800
That would have been interesting to see if there was more meaning behind that because

712
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,320
it doesn't want the detective to say like oh we found two black balloons at the scene

713
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,360
of the crime or some shit like that.

714
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Yeah I think in Finney's case it was more used as like a distraction so he could like

715
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,560
full blown like grab him and pull him into the van.

716
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,560
That's fair.

717
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:39,720
I mean I feel you still got a good glimpse of the kicking legs so I feel that someone

718
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:43,200
probably could have seen that something was still wrong.

719
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,800
Yeah I don't think the distraction was for like anyone else.

720
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,960
I think it was specifically for the abductee.

721
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,400
Just to kind of disorientate him.

722
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,400
Yeah.

723
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,120
At least that's how I figured it.

724
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,120
He's like okay he uses black balloons to just kind of like get in your face because if someone

725
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,620
were to just take a shit ton of balloons throw them at you and then go to freaking attack

726
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:14,880
you like it would take you a second to be like what the shit.

727
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:15,880
That's a good point.

728
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,880
That's a very good point.

729
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:23,480
I think that's just what happened.

730
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:34,680
This is I was debating on whether or not to dock this in our logic or effects and I think

731
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,640
I'm going to do it in logic.

732
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:49,440
I'm going to be docking for the absolute bullshit toilet bowl thing.

733
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:56,240
Like toilets have as far as I'm aware they've always been made out of like porcelain.

734
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,040
Porcelain cannot break concrete.

735
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,400
I don't care how you hit it it's not going to break concrete.

736
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,960
I'm actually going to look it up real quick what they used to build.

737
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,200
Oh my god.

738
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:18,520
I love toilets built in the 70s.

739
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:33,200
I know that they had the bathtubs back then were mostly like built out of like cast iron.

740
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,520
So I mean if it was cast iron yeah there's no way in freaking hell.

741
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,440
Yeah cast iron toilets look completely different than porcelain toilets and that is a that's

742
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,480
straight up a porcelain toilet.

743
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,160
There's no way in living hell that he would have been able to break open a wall like that

744
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,000
with a porcelain toilet.

745
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,280
Absolutely no way and then again.

746
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,780
We're going to put this to the test.

747
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:02,780
Good luck.

748
00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:07,720
That show is going to break or it would have broken very easily.

749
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:14,280
And seriously unless the shit was made of like a super shitty plaster but it looked

750
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,040
like cement.

751
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,080
But I mean who freaking knows because on the inside apparently it was like dirt that he

752
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:29,280
could have dug with his hand and also that he was able to crack open a hole that was

753
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:37,640
just perfect enough to frame the one thing that he needed to get into the freezer.

754
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Like you can go to hell.

755
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:47,200
You can go to hell.

756
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,640
And how did how the hell do you piece together that it.

757
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Okay I was going to say how do you piece together that there's a freezer on the other side with

758
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:14,280
the with the the outlet but a ghost told him that there was so I'll forgive that.

759
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,280
But I'm calling bullshit on that and I'm also calling bullshit that he was able to perfectly

760
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:29,600
like shove the the cable all the way up the the the rug.

761
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Like because I don't know if you've ever used a cable before but that shit likes to like

762
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:40,440
twist and turn and get caught on stuff.

763
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,160
So yeah I'm calling bullshit on that.

764
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,840
Oh shit.

765
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,840
Other than that I think they did a pretty decent job at like everything else.

766
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:00,040
I think maybe Finny waited a little too long when he escaped the first time like with the

767
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,920
bike lock.

768
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,880
I think he waited a little too long to start screaming.

769
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:14,920
Yeah I yeah I can definitely agree with that.

770
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:21,880
Yeah so with that kind of stuff especially with how how smart he was he was doing like

771
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:29,600
the first go around I think I'm bringing that down to maybe like an 87.

772
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,280
Okay I'll just go up one higher than you 88.

773
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:43,000
All right moving on over to effects there was quite a bit of special effects in this

774
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:51,600
a lot of it was gore related which I don't know about you but I had very very little

775
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,600
issue with.

776
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Oh yeah no same here.

777
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,720
I think where my issue lies is kind of what they did with the ghost children.

778
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:08,980
The the kid that was hanging up upside down and pointing at the the window.

779
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:16,480
Yes he was super scary but he didn't look super great.

780
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,880
Like I couldn't quite figure it like he kind of had a CGI feel about him.

781
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:30,440
At least when you initially see him other than so not too many complaints there.

782
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Everything else like special effects wise I think the or not special effects practical

783
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:44,240
when it came to like fighting I think the fight that Robin had it first with that one

784
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,800
kid was a moose.

785
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,360
I thought that fight was like freaking brutal as hell.

786
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,760
Dude straight up like god damn.

787
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,560
I love how he points out in the bathroom.

788
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,960
I didn't need to you know have them bleed bleed but you know there was a huge crowd

789
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:04,840
I got to send the message so I'm like okay.

790
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:10,200
I'm like damn dude.

791
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,960
Dude freaking when he mentions because this takes place in 78 when he mentions oh have

792
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:22,800
you seen the Texas Chainsaw Massacre yet the whole time thinking how did they not do like

793
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,280
have they how did they not have them talk about Halloween instead of the Texas Chainsaw

794
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Massacre considering that's the franchise that Blumhouse who is owned by you know that

795
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,680
Blumhouse who made this movie is you know caring right now.

796
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:44,520
So I don't know I feel considering that it doesn't really come up it doesn't like the

797
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,960
Texas Chainsaw Massacre doesn't really have anything to do with the plot like it's not

798
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,200
like oh if you would have seen this movie you would have been able to pick up on what

799
00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:01,720
he did and it would have helped you on just me being nitpicky not nitpicky but I think

800
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:07,720
it would have been made more sense if they would have mentioned Halloween.

801
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,160
What year did Halloween come out?

802
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,160
78.

803
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,160
78?

804
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,160
Yeah.

805
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,240
And Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out the same year?

806
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,440
Let me check.

807
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:30,440
Yeah like just thinking like what like when did Halloween come out?

808
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:41,600
Okay maybe I'm wrong here because yeah Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out in 90 or 74 and

809
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,360
then Halloween I think wasn't released until August.

810
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,600
Damn it.

811
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,800
So by that time frame it still would have been a relatively new movie because they had

812
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,120
just started the school year right?

813
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,120
I think so.

814
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,000
They were fresh off of summer.

815
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Because yeah the release date for Halloween wasn't until October 27th.

816
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,720
Damn.

817
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,720
They got you.

818
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,240
Sons of bitches.

819
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,960
I've never even seen the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre have you?

820
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,960
I haven't either.

821
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,680
I haven't even seen the new one on Netflix yet.

822
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,360
I can't believe it's that freaking old.

823
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,360
Yeah no right?

824
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,680
I don't know why it came out in 74.

825
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,680
Yeah that's crazy.

826
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,560
But yeah I mean it makes sense that way.

827
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:38,760
So why he would have seen it in a drive-in theater if they were playing like old scary

828
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,760
movies.

829
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,760
Good point.

830
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:47,320
Or like whatever you want to justify it there.

831
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:52,800
But yeah so I thought that fight looked super good.

832
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:59,840
A lot of the combat that they had, any fighting looked really freaking good.

833
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:08,280
Even when I felt some crazy intensity between the Grabber and Finney when they were having

834
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,640
that fight.

835
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,840
And when he kind of got home alone it fell into the pit.

836
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,320
Like I thought that was badass.

837
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,600
Like the way that he just beats the shit out of him and freaking chokes him out.

838
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,560
I didn't like the wiki explanation saying that he broke his neck.

839
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,600
And I'm like no you freaking choked his ass out.

840
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,760
Yeah he did not break his neck.

841
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Oh dude when he was choking him to death I was getting a little too excited.

842
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,880
I'm not gonna lie.

843
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:37,880
No I feel you.

844
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,320
I was cheering along right with you.

845
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,800
I'm just like get him get him.

846
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,880
It was that satisfying.

847
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,200
Yeah so good.

848
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:53,480
So lots of props to the effects department there.

849
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,200
But with that where are you sitting at?

850
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Yeah just because I literally have very little problems.

851
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,880
I'd say a solid 90.

852
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:09,880
Actually you know what?

853
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:10,880
91.

854
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,560
I'm gonna go a couple points lower than you.

855
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,400
I'm gonna go to like an 89.

856
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Alright.

857
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Like I enjoyed it and I think they did a lot right.

858
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:28,640
It's just I think some of the CGI issues that I had were just enough to bring it down a

859
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,640
couple points.

860
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,640
That's fair.

861
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,640
I get you.

862
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,120
Alright next up we got music.

863
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Nothing too...

864
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,920
No it was kind of your basic horror film score.

865
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,920
Yeah.

866
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,680
Someone's saying that's bad.

867
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Score is very good.

868
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,680
It's just...

869
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,320
No I mean it definitely worked for the film.

870
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,840
Just wasn't anything special.

871
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,760
Yeah it's no like Halloween theme or anything like that.

872
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,080
Yeah.

873
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,640
So I think six maybe.

874
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,560
Yeah I agree with six.

875
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,960
Alright next up we got costumes.

876
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:17,120
So the big one is the grabbers outfit and it's his mask.

877
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,560
His mask was the shit.

878
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,320
Seriously the fact that it was two parts too.

879
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,320
I love that.

880
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:31,680
Hell technically it was like four parts because he had a bunch of different like attachments

881
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,960
for it.

882
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,200
So he had like the top piece where it was like the devil horns and whatever and then

883
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:46,880
he had a smile, a frown and then from a poster that I saw I think he also had just one where

884
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,440
it was just blank.

885
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,120
I like it.

886
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,960
That shit was so scary.

887
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,960
Dude seriously though.

888
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,920
God that scene where Finny's just like you try to touch me I'll scratch your face up.

889
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,600
He's just like this face?

890
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,800
He's pointing to the mask.

891
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,840
I know it's just like.

892
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,360
Dude like oh my gosh just getting back into Ethan Hawke's performance on this.

893
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,040
He had such like a childish way of speaking.

894
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:24,200
Like a sense of innocence that just made him terrifying.

895
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,440
Dude straight up.

896
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,360
And like anytime he talked like that I'm just like ah stranger danger.

897
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,360
Oh shit that's funny.

898
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,080
Oh.

899
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Yeah I wish that we would have got to see him in like the top hat more.

900
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Like that you see on the cover.

901
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:46,400
Yeah I agree.

902
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,080
Or like the posters.

903
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:52,200
And he never wore the glasses.

904
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:58,040
The only time that he yeah well the only time that he wore the glasses that I saw was when

905
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,880
he kidnapped Vinny.

906
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,440
Okay but he wasn't even in like a mask then.

907
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:07,360
It was just nah or just that one was tough.

908
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:15,680
I think I missed that because like one you don't really see his face during the interaction

909
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,120
other than like a really quick moment.

910
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:24,120
So I think that's maybe why I'm not like recalling that.

911
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,400
That's fair.

912
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,840
But he freaking terrifying.

913
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Seriously though dude.

914
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:40,120
I really liked how when he came down and like he always kind of had a different orientation

915
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,120
with the mask.

916
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:46,520
Like first time he comes down he's wearing just like wearing his mask and then he comes

917
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:52,120
down again and he's just wearing the smile portion of it when he's watching Vinny sleep.

918
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,320
Which is creepy as hell.

919
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,320
Very.

920
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:02,600
And then comes down again where he's just wearing the top part.

921
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:09,760
And then like after he's been like after he lies about his name he comes down and he's

922
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,560
wearing the full mask with the frown.

923
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:12,760
Oh shit.

924
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,000
Where's the like with the frown too.

925
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,920
Like freaking nuts.

926
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:23,840
Like I'm glad that they didn't force him to take the mask off.

927
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Or give us that moment like he kind of.

928
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,400
They did kind of give us a Halloween moment.

929
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,960
I feel where he took.

930
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,240
Or Finney like kicked the mask off of him.

931
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,440
And then he was like like freaking out.

932
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,440
Okay.

933
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,440
Fair enough.

934
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:46,320
And I was just kind of like yeah that felt a little too.

935
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,320
Halloween ish.

936
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,320
Yeah.

937
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,840
Because yeah Michael's nothing without his mask.

938
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:52,840
Yeah.

939
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,760
Super solid.

940
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,000
Everyone else though kind of.

941
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Average.

942
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:06,240
Just classic like 70s kid clothes.

943
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Yeah.

944
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:16,480
So where are you sitting at?

945
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,520
I'm sitting at like an eight.

946
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,320
I can give you an eight.

947
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,240
I was leaning a little bit more towards a seven.

948
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:32,440
Just because I mean the rest of the costumes were not like anything spectacular.

949
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:33,440
That's fair.

950
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,440
But.

951
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:40,000
I feel Ethan Hawke's mask just boosted up just a little bit.

952
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,000
Yeah.

953
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,120
All right.

954
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,640
Last up we got our own personal score.

955
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,120
So you want to take this one?

956
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,280
I would love to.

957
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,320
So overall this is one of the best horror movies I've seen in recent memory.

958
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,280
I had an amazing time with this movie.

959
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Ethan Hawke is absolutely incredible.

960
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,080
And the kid actors are super good as well.

961
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,120
I cannot recommend this horror film enough.

962
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:11,000
So I'm going to go a 91.

963
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Yeah absolutely agreed.

964
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,040
Had a great time with this movie.

965
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:22,960
It filled me with genuine fear and just overall terror which I think is a hard thing for horror

966
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:28,040
movies to do for at least for me.

967
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:35,640
Like horror movies for me like they can scare me but they don't fill me with like dread.

968
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,720
I feel like it's always like that's what I don't like.

969
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:43,320
I don't like being like I don't like being jump scared.

970
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,920
And just because I like my initial reaction to being jump scared is anger.

971
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:58,040
And so like at the end of a horror movie that's just like over packed with with jump scares.

972
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,280
It just it brings the movie down for me.

973
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,160
But this movie did not do that.

974
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,920
It filled me with like genuine fear and terror.

975
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,000
And I loved every second of it.

976
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,560
Like this is what horror movies should be.

977
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:14,840
They shouldn't.

978
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,320
I don't appreciate movies that don't earn their jump scares.

979
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:23,840
And wherever there was a jump scare in this movie it was well earned.

980
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,200
So I mean it's hard for me to complain about like that.

981
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:33,160
Like I said being scared.

982
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:42,240
So with that I think I'm I think we're gonna give it an 89.

983
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:48,080
I had a really good time with this movie.

984
01:08:48,080 --> 01:09:01,840
But anyway so to recap with our highest score category we have story leading at a 93.5 followed

985
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:07,680
by writing that dipped down just a little bit sitting at an 89.

986
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,200
Actings up one point higher sitting at a 90.

987
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:18,920
With the logic kind of dropped down a little bit to an 87.5.

988
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:25,880
The effects brought it back up like right back up in line with acting sitting at a 90.

989
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:31,260
Music slightly average nothing too special to talk about but it fit with the scenes.

990
01:09:31,260 --> 01:09:35,440
So like I said we're sitting putting that at a six.

991
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:40,160
Costumes average out to an eight because of that incredible mask.

992
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,980
And our personal score averaged out to a 90.

993
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:59,360
So with all of that our final Albrose letter grade for the black phone has come to a B

994
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,040
plus.

995
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,320
Not bad.

996
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,560
Yeah definitely not.

997
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,160
It's like kind of a mid B plus.

998
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,680
So it's sitting at an 87.5.

999
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,480
So I mean it's not bad at all.

1000
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:19,960
No no not at all.

1001
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:28,600
Yeah I mean maybe a little lower than I would personally cared for but yeah like let's see

1002
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,560
where it ranks.

1003
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,200
Maybe with the other movies that we've done.

1004
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:49,420
So sitting at an 87.5 puts it exactly in line with How to Train Your Dragon the first one.

1005
01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:55,940
So it puts it below Parasite which is at an 87.59.

1006
01:10:55,940 --> 01:11:02,080
Puts it below Rhea and the Last Dragon which is at an 87.81.

1007
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Puts it below The Prom which is at an 88.12.

1008
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:12,880
Puts it below The Invisible Man which is at an 88.23.

1009
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:19,520
And then puts it below How to Train Your Dragon 2 which is at an 88.37.

1010
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:25,920
So I'm actually really glad that we got another horror movie in this.

1011
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,280
And I would actually agree with this.

1012
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,680
Like that Invisible Man would be higher than this one.

1013
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,600
Oh yeah absolutely.

1014
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,560
Yeah but anyway going the opposite direction.

1015
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:49,400
It is above Freaky which was at an 87.37.

1016
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:56,760
It's above Detective Pikachu which is at an 87.31.

1017
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:04,000
It's above Total Recall which was at an 87.28.

1018
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,760
It's above The Willabes which is at an 87.24.

1019
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:13,720
And then finally it is above Psycho which is at an 87.1.

1020
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,840
Not bad.

1021
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,200
Not bad at all.

1022
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,600
Oh and then just for shits and giggles.

1023
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:27,320
It is also above the 1978 Halloween which is at an 87.06.

1024
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:33,200
Alright now I'm pissed.

1025
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,080
How dare you put this above Halloween.

1026
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,560
Hey I didn't do shit.

1027
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:45,680
We put it above Halloween so this is both of our fault.

1028
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,440
Alright fair enough.

1029
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:51,000
Yeah okay.

1030
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,560
I was going to say it's your fault for being so harsh on Halloween but never mind.

1031
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,120
I wasn't that harsh on Halloween.

1032
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,040
I'm just kidding.

1033
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,440
Oh man.

1034
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:09,080
But anyway so that's where this movie ranks and I think it has a pretty decent home.

1035
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,200
Agreed.

1036
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:18,200
I think the only one that maybe you can make the argument for is Freaky but I mean the

1037
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,920
margins are so close it's not even funny.

1038
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,840
Are you saying you can't make an argument for that on Halloween?

1039
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,400
Just because I'm an asshole?

1040
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,800
No I can't.

1041
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,760
We about to throw some fists.

1042
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,760
Virtual fists man.

1043
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,760
Virtual fists.

1044
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,760
Oh man.

1045
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,520
Okay that concludes this week's episode.

1046
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:49,560
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1047
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,160
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1048
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:57,560
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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,040
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1050
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:03,560
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1051
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,440
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1052
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:13,920
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1053
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,400
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1054
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,600
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1055
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:27,080
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1056
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:33,880
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1057
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,520
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1058
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:45,880
But yeah, you can also email us if that is your preferred contact choice.

1059
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:51,560
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1060
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:58,400
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1061
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,560
So yeah, feel free to do that.

1062
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:11,280
And next week, I am not sure what we'll be doing.

1063
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,600
Next week will be a surprise.

1064
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:19,480
Yeah, so this one was depending on where it ends up.

1065
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:24,800
It's either going to be nope, which might be a little difficult for me to pull off since

1066
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,680
my wife is currently gone.

1067
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,880
She's on a trip right now so I can't exactly go to the movie theater whenever I want because

1068
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:41,240
I have the editor with me.

1069
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:54,160
So yeah, probably won't be nope and we'll see if it can be Lal Singh Chadha, the basically

1070
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:59,240
rebooted Forrest Gump, wherever that ends up.

1071
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:04,080
Let's see where it's going to go.

1072
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:09,080
No word on where that's streaming.

1073
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:18,360
But if it's not going to be streaming, we'll figure something out.

1074
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:26,400
So yeah, so you guys can look forward to whatever the hell we do next week.

1075
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:32,400
But yeah, so with that, this has been the All Bros podcast.

1076
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,760
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we'll catch you guys next week.

1077
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,760
Deuces, shalom.

1078
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,560
And I'm bad.

1079
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:49,320
Thank you.