1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,120 What is up bros, I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are a couple of bros on a mission to 2 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,440 give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible. 3 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,600 Welcome to the all bros. 4 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:43,020 This week on the podcast we got nothing to discuss in 4k spotlight this week, but we 5 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:49,000 are going to be talking about D23 and let's see five of our favorite announcements that 6 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,560 came out of that. 7 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Unfortunately kind of a disappointing D23. 8 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Yeah, I mean, I didn't, did you actually watch any of the panels? 9 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,000 I wasn't able to. 10 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,760 I had, so I was going to watch it while I was at work because I had like literally nothing 11 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,520 better to do. 12 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,000 But I had to leave. 13 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Really working hard. 14 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 I know. 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:22,400 But I had to leave, leave work early to come watch Iris while my, while Brielle went to 16 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,840 a meeting. 17 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,760 And so I wasn't able to capture, like get any of those panels. 18 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,320 Otherwise I would have watched them because I did, that's what I did last year or I did 19 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:36,240 it with the DC fandom. 20 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,040 The last one that happened then and that one was awesome. 21 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Didn't they put them on a Disney plus? 22 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Yeah. 23 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,600 So you can watch all the panels on Disney plus. 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:54,080 So I might go and do that just to see like things that maybe the articles I've read have 25 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,600 missed, but so far I don't think they've missed too much. 26 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,600 So we'll see. 27 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,280 I'll give it a watch tomorrow maybe depending on, oh, well I got to edit tomorrow, maybe 28 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,280 not tomorrow. 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Who knows? 30 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,280 I'll watch it eventually. 31 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,280 All right. 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,280 I like it. 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:19,080 Anyway, so yeah, we'll be talking about D23 and then we will be getting into this week's 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:28,680 headliner where we will be breaking down the 2022 remake of Pinocchio. 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,880 So with that, let's say we get started. 36 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,880 Let's do it. 37 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Hello, my name is Brecker Nurse. 38 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,280 I want to tell you about my fun horror movie podcast called Autopsy for Horror Movie. 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,120 On my show, I like to have fun dissecting out what makes a horror movie scary, what 40 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,520 worked for it, what didn't, what types of fears does it play off of? 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Is it an allegory for any sort of message? 42 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 I don't know, but let's find out. 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Also, I like to watch slashers. 44 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,660 I'm a big slasher guy, so I'll watch a slasher and do a kill grade for it. 45 00:03:01,660 --> 00:03:06,920 I will cover the kills and I will tell you how I would grade it based on shock, methods, 46 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:11,040 style points and a fourth category that is a reflection of the movie. 47 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,460 Besides those, I will have fun with special topic episodes, commentary tracks, interviews 48 00:03:15,460 --> 00:03:18,000 with guests, including some shuttered directors. 49 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,600 So I just like to have a fun time over here. 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,540 If any of this sounds interesting to you or you want to come check me out, please head 51 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:29,480 over to Spotify, Apple Podcasts or anywhere they listen to podcasts and search for Autopsy 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,920 for Horror Movie. 53 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:34,500 Also be sure to find me on Instagram at Brecker Horror where you get fun updates and some 54 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,120 cool little posts that I do. 55 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Thanks for listening and I hope that you get to enjoy the show and I'll see you on Instagram. 56 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Bye. 57 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Alrighty, starting off with Through the Wall. 58 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Like we said, we'll be talking about our favorite D23 announcements. 59 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,960 So I have three that really caught my eye and Rose, you had two. 60 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:05,640 So let's just go kind of go back and forth on on it. 61 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,320 So I'll start us off. 62 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:14,160 The first one that I'm actually really excited for now that I actually have like a roster 63 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,960 is the Thunderbolts. 64 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Like we finally got like an idea of what that team is going to look like and it seems freaking 65 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,400 sick. 66 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,800 I know a lot of people that I saw in the comments were disappointed by this lineup. 67 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,800 I'm not actually. 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,300 I think this is a great lineup. 69 00:04:31,300 --> 00:04:34,240 I think it's an amazing lineup too. 70 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:43,760 So first off, we got Julia Louise Dryfus portraying her character as the basically Thunderbolts 71 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,560 version equivalent of Nick Fury. 72 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,500 Yeah, there you go. 73 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:57,400 So the Thunderbolts is more like a government based team, which surprisingly enough, Kevin 74 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Feige announced that this is basically saying that the Avengers have disassembled. 75 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Like right now there are no Avengers. 76 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,760 Iron Man's dead. 77 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,720 Hulk is off world if you've been keeping up with She-Hulk and just kind of not doing the 78 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,840 whole team up thing. 79 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:25,480 Captain America's we're assuming dead just because or just happily retired, whichever. 80 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,600 Yeah, Black Widow's dead. 81 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,480 Thor's off world doing his own thing. 82 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 And Hawkeye is happily retired. 83 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Or at least we hope so. 84 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Yeah, so it's just he I'll say this. 85 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,800 He's content doing his own thing. 86 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Like at the very least. 87 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Am I supposed to chime in? 88 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Well, I thought you would have something to say about Hawkeye. 89 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Oh, sorry. 90 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,840 You know, fair enough. 91 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,760 I mean, I'm glad that Clint finally gets to retire. 92 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,760 It's about freaking time. 93 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Like actually, finally. 94 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,320 I will fully admit, though, I would have it would have been cool to see Kate Bishop on 95 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 this team, too. 96 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,000 She's not really Thunderbolts, though. 97 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 She's like Avengers like these. 98 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Like this. 99 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,640 Like I said, we've got the. 100 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,440 The Nick Fury equivalent of whatever day Fontaine. 101 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:38,040 And then the like the rest of the team or the lineup, we got Ghost from Ant-Man and 102 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,280 the Wasp, which I'm really excited to see her back. 103 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,120 Yeah, that's awesome. 104 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:50,400 We got David Harbour's Red Guardian in like a brand new updated suit, which looks awesome. 105 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Yeah, it does. 106 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:00,080 Let's see, we got Taskmaster. 107 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,920 Which I'm super pumped to see her back. 108 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,240 Yeah, that's awesome. 109 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,560 I honestly didn't think that they were going to bring her back, but that's awesome. 110 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,200 I didn't think they were either. 111 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Like I thought that was like the like with what we saw in Black Widow, I thought that 112 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,400 was going to be the end of the Taskmaster. 113 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Yeah, same here. 114 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,760 I'm very excited to see what we get more, especially with that, with him being one of 115 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,360 the big or with her being one of the big six. 116 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,240 True. 117 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Then we got US Agent. 118 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Which he looks like he's in. 119 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,600 He's in a brand new suit, which looks awesome, or at least new helmet. 120 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Yeah, like I really dig the helmet. 121 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,200 It kind of seems like it has some like streaks of red in it. 122 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Or did we see him in the helmet? 123 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,580 I thought we did at the end. 124 00:07:55,580 --> 00:08:01,360 I need to go back and rewatch that. 125 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Then let's see, we got Yelena Belova, who's going to be like kind of the the lead of this 126 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:14,360 movie, like the leader of this team, which is going to be awesome. 127 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,960 I freaking love Florence Pugh. 128 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Oh yeah, I love that it's a. 129 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,880 No, sorry, I wasn't going to say it. 130 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,440 I love that it's like the classic like black Black Widow uniform, but with the green vest 131 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,440 over it. 132 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,000 I love it. 133 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Yeah, that looks awesome. 134 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:39,720 And then surprisingly enough, we were going to get Winter Soldier in this as well. 135 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,160 That threw me through a freaking loop when I showed that. 136 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,400 I'm like, what? 137 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,240 It kind of makes sense though. 138 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Like if you if you think about it like. 139 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,280 They're getting all of these more or less these rogues, these people that don't really 140 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,200 fall under the the hero banner. 141 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,640 Like if I were to go through these, I think. 142 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Ghost was leaning a little bit more towards like the villainous side. 143 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Like these are all people with like questionable morals. 144 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:14,560 You know, fair enough. 145 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,600 That's a good point. 146 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,440 And it's like none of these people seem to have a problem with killing if that's what 147 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,920 it like comes down to. 148 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:29,080 I think Bucky is going to be like the odd man out since he was technically like part 149 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,240 of the Avengers. 150 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:36,080 I think he's more like maybe being a double agent to kind of make sure that these team 151 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,280 or that this team is supposed to be on the straight and narrow. 152 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,680 OK, OK. 153 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:50,760 And maybe serving as a spy for like the Avengers or what will eventually become the Avengers. 154 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,120 But it's also to like maybe he has like a little suicide squad situation going on where 155 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,880 maybe he has to be part of this team because it's like part of the government stipulation 156 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,480 on his pardon. 157 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,600 I mean, that's what I would would assume. 158 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,720 But no, that's fair. 159 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:19,080 From what they were saying, it seems like Yelena and Bucky are going to be like the 160 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:25,240 two main characters and everyone else is kind of going to be off to the side. 161 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:33,240 I'm cool with that, but like I would have liked to see other characters. 162 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Hopefully, I mean, hopefully they get like at least a little bit of moments to shine, 163 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,480 especially David Harbour's Red Guardian. 164 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,400 But I kind of hate that they just already called out. 165 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,720 Oh, yeah, it's basically Yelena and Bucky's movie. 166 00:10:48,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Yeah, I mean, I think Red Guardian is just going to kind of be attached to Yelena. 167 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,640 And I think that there's going to be the ones that I'm worried about getting kind of pushed 168 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,680 off to the wayside are Ghost and Taskmaster. 169 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:10,680 Yes. 170 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,480 Oh, I absolutely agree with that. 171 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:22,120 Like those two, I want to see really good things from. 172 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:30,040 And what's interesting to me, though, is like, or what's kind of throwing me to all of these 173 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,800 these people seem to be like the same. 174 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Like you got Bucky and US agent. 175 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,000 They're both super soldiers. 176 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,660 You got Ghost and Taskmaster, and they're both like assassins. 177 00:11:44,660 --> 00:11:52,600 And then you got Red Guardian and Yelena that are both like Black Widow spy people. 178 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,960 And I guess if you wanted to throw, if if you didn't like like that comparison, you 179 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:06,920 can throw Red Guardian into the Bucky and US agent group where it's like super soldier. 180 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,680 Yeah, so it's like, I mean, I know three super soldiers and three assassins. 181 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,680 Please don't leave. 182 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:18,600 Seen the meme of like people like announcing like they'll show the picture of the team 183 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:25,160 and they put that the scene from the Suicide Squad where Hydros Elves characters just like 184 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,560 he does the same thing I do. 185 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:28,560 Yeah. 186 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,760 It's freaking great. 187 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,760 I'm like, you know what? 188 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,240 You got a point there. 189 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Yeah. 190 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,720 So I that's what I'm like really worried about. 191 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,080 It's mainly because like Ghost and Taskmaster, we didn't really get a personality from them. 192 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,620 So I feel like they're going to be kind of thrown to the side. 193 00:12:46,620 --> 00:12:51,280 Like I think they're going to get like the Black Widow Hawkeye treatment. 194 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:58,560 Yeah, I mean, I feel like we barely got like we literally got like nothing from Taskmaster 195 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:05,240 and Black Widow Ghost a little bit in A Man and the Wasp, but yeah, I feel you there. 196 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,160 I'm afraid too that it's going to turn into a Hawkeye and Black Widow situation. 197 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Yeah. 198 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,160 The Avengers. 199 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,440 Taskmaster is definitely going to be the Hawkeye in this situation. 200 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,200 Dude straight up. 201 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,240 Like that is absolutely what I'm afraid of. 202 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,240 And you know what? 203 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,880 It works out because she uses a bow too. 204 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Yep. 205 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Like what the way that I view this team like for like the equivalents. 206 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,000 I view Yelena as like Iron Man. 207 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Bucky as Cap. 208 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:47,640 I would probably throw US Agent in the Thor section. 209 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,080 I can agree with that. 210 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,300 Red Guardian. 211 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:55,840 He's kind of like a more upbeat Hulk. 212 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Yeah. 213 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Ghost, I would throw in the Black Widow and then Taskmaster definitely Hawkeye. 214 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,880 Like that's like how I see their roles going. 215 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:16,280 So now when we go when we go to see this movie, I have to do what I did with if they do like 216 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,640 character posters for each one, I got to make sure with Taskmaster I print our poster off 217 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,480 and just duct tape it to a shirt. 218 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,240 You know, got to do exactly what I did with Hawkeye for the Avengers. 219 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,880 That's still one of the stupidest things I've ever done. 220 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,720 It was up there for sure. 221 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:34,720 Yeah. 222 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:40,680 But I'm genuinely excited for this show or this movie. 223 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,680 I am too. 224 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Like you said, after finally seeing who actually is a part of the team, it definitely put my 225 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,680 excitement up there. 226 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Yeah. 227 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:58,680 I'm a little upset that they didn't throw in like abomination. 228 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:04,200 Yeah, like as like a like a like a placement for Hulk. 229 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Yeah, some like something like that. 230 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Like I would have really liked that. 231 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Like to see that to see like a Hulk equivalent. 232 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Like I didn't necessarily need like them to throw in like a demigod or any of them like 233 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,800 I don't I don't need like just an Avengers but slightly evil. 234 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,560 But I would have really liked to see abomination. 235 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,840 I mean, I've made this at least I made the statement towards you. 236 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:40,920 What I'm hoping they do is make abomination a little bit more heroic in the public eye 237 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:47,080 and Hulk becomes a little bit more villainous. 238 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Like goes back to being like Savage Hulk. 239 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,840 And then she Hulk is like the new Hulk. 240 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Like that's what I would really like to see. 241 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,060 And so throwing abomination in this would be really cool. 242 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:05,760 Or even like Red Hulk because it's called the Thunderbolts. 243 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:11,720 Like it's like how do you not include Thunderbolt Ross? 244 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,440 No, that's a very good point. 245 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Like I know the actor for Ross passed away, but still. 246 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,360 As I like why Thunderbolts if you just got. 247 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Like it makes me feel like that that that whatever faces de Fontaine is kind of acting 248 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,680 under Ross's authorization. 249 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:47,360 And this is more like a government approved Avengers. 250 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Fair enough. 251 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:57,800 So I really would like to see a Red Hulk make an appearance in this. 252 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,880 I think that'd be really cool. 253 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,640 Also like or another thing that could have come from this, like I really like to see 254 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:17,840 who the villain is going to be in this or what the threat is. 255 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:24,480 But did you hear about Captain America, the New World Order? 256 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,880 No, huh? 257 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Like we don't have to go too much into this, but they announced that the villain for that 258 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,080 is going to be the leader. 259 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Are they bringing back? 260 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,880 Yes, they are. 261 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,880 Oh shit, dude. 262 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:40,880 Yeah. 263 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Yeah. 264 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:48,200 It's only been like a shit ton of years. 265 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,440 But like has it been for almost 14 years? 266 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,440 Damn near. 267 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:55,440 Holy shit. 268 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,440 Yeah. 269 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,440 So yeah. 270 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:05,240 So he's going to be back as the leader and I could not be more excited about it. 271 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Hell yeah. 272 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Oh, that's awesome. 273 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,240 Yeah. 274 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,960 So that's going to be sick. 275 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Really excited to see that. 276 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:20,760 Yeah, that's all I really got to say about the Thunderbolt. 277 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,600 It's nothing like real insightful to add about it. 278 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Like you got any other notes? 279 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Not really. 280 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,320 I mean, I'm super excited for it. 281 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,080 All right. 282 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,860 So what was your first D23 item? 283 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:43,760 So my first is that they are finally because I'm pretty sure that this like marks that 284 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:50,240 they've literally remade every single Disney classic after this Snow White. 285 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080 They're finally doing a live action remake of Snow White. 286 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:59,120 Dude, hell yes. 287 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:04,320 This is going to be the shit. 288 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,280 I'm so freaking excited. 289 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:13,520 I'm just very interested to see how they are going to. 290 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,960 It's going to be very interesting to see how they do like the seven dwarves. 291 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,960 Like are they going to actually like hire actors or are they going to do like motion 292 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,440 capture? 293 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,000 I'm very interested. 294 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,880 Yeah, I have it pulled up on IMDB, like what they're wanting to do. 295 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,420 Yeah. 296 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:40,040 And so far it doesn't look like there's it doesn't seem like they have a cast for the 297 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,040 the dwarves. 298 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,640 Okay. 299 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,080 So they have like a bunch of dancers like cast and whatnot. 300 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,960 So they they're definitely keeping with like musical route. 301 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,600 So that'll be be interesting to see. 302 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:11,000 But what I'm really excited for is Rachel Zegler, whom most people would know as I want 303 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,120 to say her name is Maria and West Side Story. 304 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,320 Yes. 305 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Yeah, Maria and West Side Story, the new West Side Story, she will be playing Snow White 306 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,480 and Gal Gadot will be playing the Evil Queen. 307 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,760 And that is going to be the shit that really is. 308 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:43,560 I'm honestly like over the moon just to see how Gal Gadot will act as a horrible person 309 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,720 because she seems too sweet to do it. 310 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,840 But I think I think she knows she kind of has that. 311 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,320 Oh, balls. 312 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,200 What's his name? 313 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,920 The guy who played Gaston. 314 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,200 Oh, Luke Evans. 315 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,200 Yeah. 316 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,160 He kind of has like that Luke Evans vibes where I don't know how well she can play evil. 317 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Yeah. 318 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,160 Yeah, I guess we'll find out. 319 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,480 Yeah, we'll see. 320 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280 So really high hopes for that one. 321 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,400 That movie just I guess you got to say that Disney at least I guess you got to say that 322 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,400 Disney at least liked how Luke Evans played evil considering they brought him back for 323 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,400 Pinocchio. 324 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Oh, yeah. 325 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:37,160 We'll get into that. 326 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,360 But yeah, really, really excited for Snow White. 327 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,600 I wish there was a little bit more news. 328 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:50,360 Like I would really be interested to hear what they have going on for the dwarves, like 329 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:56,160 whether they're going to hire like small people for those roles. 330 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,160 I hope they do. 331 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,320 I hope they go that route. 332 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Yeah. 333 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:13,640 But yeah, I don't I don't know if like they could go any other route with that. 334 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,120 Other than just not including the seven dwarves, but you can't find I'd be pissed. 335 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:23,040 Yeah, I'd be pissed if you they didn't include the seven dwarves. 336 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Yeah, that'd be ridiculous. 337 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:31,960 Oh, anyway, anything else on Snow White? 338 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:38,880 No, the sad thing, don't get me wrong, I'll definitely watch this when it comes out. 339 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,080 But like the first thing that came to my mind when I saw that announcement, I'm just like, 340 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:49,200 I swear that that truly makes it that they've remade every single Disney classic. 341 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,600 That's like that. 342 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,000 They've done them all. 343 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,380 Like that's what got me the most excited. 344 00:22:55,380 --> 00:22:56,960 It does feel like that. 345 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Like are they missing any? 346 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,980 Well, okay. 347 00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:06,520 So the question is, do we count Maleficent as a remake for Sleeping Beauty? 348 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,000 Oh, that's the hard one. 349 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,240 Because if we don't, then no. 350 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Yeah, but I don't know if Disney's counting that. 351 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,680 So Disney counts it then yes, I think. 352 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,400 I don't know if they would count that though. 353 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,080 I mean, if they did do a remake of Sleeping Beauty, they best bring back Angelina Jolie 354 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,080 to play Maleficent. 355 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,080 That's all I'm saying. 356 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,080 Fair. 357 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,960 Well, okay, they're missing a couple. 358 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,600 Like they need to do The Sword and the Stone. 359 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480 They still need to do like Hunchback of Notre Dame. 360 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Like I know that those aren't like the classic Disney, but I mean, Hunchback of Notre Dame 361 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,360 is pretty classic. 362 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,360 Yeah? 363 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,560 Yeah, I'd say. 364 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Oh shit, Hercules. 365 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Oh yeah. 366 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,360 Yeah, they definitely need to do Hercules. 367 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,360 Damn. 368 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,360 Okay. 369 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:02,360 Oh, we still got a while to go. 370 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,560 Come on, Disney. 371 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,240 I want these all remade before I'm 30. 372 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,240 That's how long you got. 373 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Yeah, I know. 374 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,640 So they have to do it by what? 375 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,640 2026? 376 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,360 Oh, good Lord. 377 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,480 Yeah, please tell me I'm not that close. 378 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,680 I'm that close to being 30? 379 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,640 Yeah, you forget we're four years away from 30. 380 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,640 Oh, Jesus. 381 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,640 Oh my God. 382 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,360 Dude, you think that's messed up? 383 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:40,040 I'm four years away from having a six year old. 384 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,600 Hey. 385 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:49,720 I was going to say like a five year old and somehow saying six is worse. 386 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,120 Oh man. 387 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:57,400 Oh God, don't you love growing up? 388 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,440 I hate growing up. 389 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,480 All right. 390 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:15,200 Next item, this one's intriguing because it's not, I don't know if this like this is MCU 391 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,200 related. 392 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:22,960 I don't know where this is going to fall in with other MCU properties because this is 393 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,320 technically a special that will be releasing on Halloween or next month. 394 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,600 It'll be releasing for Halloween. 395 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:44,120 But this is the Marvel's werewolf by night, which the setup for this dude is the best. 396 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,640 Dude, straight up. 397 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Like setting this up like a murder mystery, but one of the people there is the werewolf. 398 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Like is the is the monster and doesn't seem to know it. 399 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Like that's that's nuts and I love it. 400 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,760 To see. 401 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,520 So Caleb had me watch this trailer right before we recorded because I hadn't seen it yet. 402 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,760 And literally I was just smiling the whole time for like how many throwbacks are to like 403 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:24,000 classic like horror films like Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, is all that 404 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:31,200 shit just like of how like not like hyped up the trailers are, but how do I explain 405 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,200 there? 406 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,800 Shit, how do you explain these trailers? 407 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,400 I don't know how to explain it other than just saying that there's a bunch of hype. 408 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,640 Yeah, no, that's really good. 409 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,640 It really does. 410 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Like just like, isn't it like the end? 411 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Like they pause for a minute after like they they like close in on like someone's face 412 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 and then it shoots the title. 413 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,400 Yeah, yeah, it's like. 414 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Everything that they've done with this or at least that we can see, I am excited for 415 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,080 with this. 416 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,440 It kind of feels like it has that low budget horror movie feel and I'm hoping that that's 417 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,840 the route that they took. 418 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Like I don't want a super crazy like CGI werewolf. 419 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,120 I would much rather just see a practical werewolf. 420 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:24,920 Same here. 421 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:35,200 Like if they take this all practically, this will be my favorite like project so far that 422 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,960 they've done. 423 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,120 Completely understandable. 424 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:46,600 Like don't get me wrong, the CGI is cool and all, but you cannot beat good practical effects. 425 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,120 I'm right. 426 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:54,160 Or even like cheesy ones, like if that's the route, which it kind of seems like from some 427 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,480 of the images that we saw is kind of like the route that they're going where it kind 428 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:09,160 of looks a little cheesy, but even that shit's better than CGI on its best day. 429 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,160 Good point. 430 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,060 That is a very good point. 431 00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:18,400 So very excited to see what they do with this and I'm hoping that it's like that they're 432 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,560 willing to take this like far. 433 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:32,120 At least like with the themes, like hoping that they keep it like adult themed. 434 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,640 Like or at least like I want to see how scary they can go with this. 435 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Like I want to see Marvel get nuts. 436 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,600 I mean I don't know how like scary they'll let them get on Disney Plus, but hopefully 437 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,480 I know that's the biggest thing that I've always been worried about with Disney Plus 438 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,520 that we're just not going to see anything like adult on it. 439 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Which I know that we got like Deadpool and Deadpool 2 on it now and Logan and all that, 440 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:09,240 but just I want to see more adult related content when it comes to like Marvel. 441 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240 Oh yeah, absolutely agree. 442 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,240 Like those some Logan and the Deadpools, those weren't like edited at all, right? 443 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,880 Not that I know of. 444 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,440 Okay, good. 445 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040 I hope not because that'd be freaking bullshit. 446 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Yeah. 447 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:33,000 I watched both of those movies or all three of those movies on my Movies Anywhere app, 448 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320 so I know it's not edited. 449 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,440 I have not watched them on Disney Plus yet though. 450 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,440 Okay. 451 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:48,040 But I think you had to go in and like do like a verification on your age and all that. 452 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040 Oh shit, really? 453 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Yeah. 454 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320 I don't know if I've done that yet. 455 00:29:54,320 --> 00:30:01,000 So I don't know if I have Deadpool and Deadpool 2 on my Disney Plus yet. 456 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Okay. 457 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:13,640 Yeah, so really excited for Werewolf by Night and I think that'd be an interesting bonus 458 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,600 episode to release if it's a movie or like in a movie format. 459 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Yes. 460 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:26,560 It's like if it's a series we won't, but if it's just like a one-off episode or like short 461 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,880 film situation, like we might talk about it. 462 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,880 I'm down. 463 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Hell yeah. 464 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,480 All right, so what do you got next? 465 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:46,720 Next up, they officially announced that Inside Out is getting a sequel and when they announced 466 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,560 this, they announced that Amy Poehler is coming back. 467 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:56,440 They haven't announced if any of the other emotions voice actors are coming back. 468 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:04,360 Amy Poehler did point out that they will be exploring Riley as a preteen or teenager, 469 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480 whatever the hell you want to call it. 470 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120 So a lot of people are just like, or wait, no, I'm sorry. 471 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,320 No, she said that Riley will be getting more emotions with her being older now and everyone 472 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,600 is just like, oh, okay, so that means she's getting a puberty emotion, right? 473 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 That was like the first thing that people thought of. 474 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Puberty is not an emotion. 475 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,560 Oh wait, no, it's not puberty. 476 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,560 God damn it. 477 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,560 What's the emotion? 478 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,560 Is it a horny emotion? 479 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,560 No, it's not a horny emotion. 480 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,560 A horny emotion? 481 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,560 That would be funny. 482 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:45,680 That would be friggin hilarious. 483 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Shit, what would it be called? 484 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760 God damn it. 485 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,880 I can't think of anything other than horny now. 486 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,480 Like what emotion are you talking about? 487 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,680 I, the one that, you know, like those kind of thoughts come to your head. 488 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Oh, like a desire or a love one? 489 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080 I don't know if it's love. 490 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Yeah, I. 491 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,080 Okay. 492 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:33,920 I really liked how they kept the emotions to just those five. 493 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360 As did I. 494 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:49,800 And I feel like it almost be retconning itself in a way with like showing the adults that 495 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:57,240 still only have the five, like her mom and her dad still only had those five emotions 496 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,720 within them. 497 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440 It's like, obviously their control panel was bigger. 498 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:08,320 So it's like, Hey, we got more shit that we can do with those emotions, but they weren't 499 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,120 like new emotions. 500 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120 That's a good point. 501 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:25,920 So I mean, I feel like obviously they can, they can do more like, obviously like we only 502 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,180 saw like the control room with, with those other emotions. 503 00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:39,680 So maybe that maybe there are more emotions outside of the control room, like who knows 504 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,460 and maybe it's just those five that are in charge, but I think if they try to introduce 505 00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:50,640 more emotions, they they're retconning themselves. 506 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520 And I don't know if I would like that. 507 00:33:53,520 --> 00:34:00,640 I do really like the idea of them exploring the puberty aspect and like that. 508 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,680 I mean, and honestly, I know like, you know, some people would say, Oh yeah, but I, I wouldn't 509 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,400 expect Pixar to go down that road. 510 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,000 We saw it turning red, right? 511 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,480 Like yeah, I feel like they, they, they were insanely inappropriate. 512 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,480 Yeah. 513 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,160 So they've already, they've already touched upon this stuff. 514 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,340 It's not out of the ordinary for Pixar anymore. 515 00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:31,160 So I feel that maybe though, if they might keep it maybe a little more tame and inside 516 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,160 out too. 517 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:42,320 I feel like they'll go as, as crazy as they did in turning red with Malin. 518 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,880 Yeah. 519 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:53,840 Like for real dude, it's just, I think they have a really good opportunity to explore. 520 00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:01,720 I think inside out could have been like, like I, I need to think of what I'm saying first. 521 00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:12,480 I think inside out is a really good resource for people trying to navigate their emotions. 522 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,080 And I, I feel like it's a shame that we haven't gotten more inside out stuff. 523 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,560 Yeah, I can agree with that. 524 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:34,280 I think it'd be really, I think it'd be really cool for them to release more of these, these 525 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,280 types of videos or these movies, these types of movies where it's exploring different phases 526 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,660 of, of Riley's life. 527 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:49,680 Like we, we got her as a, as a kid, like as a younger kid where her emotions are pretty 528 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:56,160 much like, you could take them at face value. 529 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:05,320 Like obviously like children emotions aren't too, aren't too complicated to navigate. 530 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Like they're either happy or they're sad or they're like, they're upset. 531 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,000 Like it's very easy to tell. 532 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,920 And I think that they chose like the right story to tell with like being a teenager and 533 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:28,240 like struggling with new emotions and going through that growth of like, of preteen. 534 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:33,160 And I think this, like the next step, like obviously going through puberty, like that's 535 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,840 a great exploration that they can go through. 536 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:43,520 And then I think that they could even take this a step further and go like later years. 537 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:51,600 So like maybe have this one be like early teens, the next one being like late teens, 538 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:59,600 like early twenties, and then like more as you grow, as Riley grows older. 539 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:07,400 Like I think that you could share all those stories and have really good relatable stories. 540 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,720 Yeah, I absolutely agree. 541 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:18,280 So it's just, I'm excited to see what they bring with this. 542 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:25,520 I will say I am really worried that they're going to not do great things with it and have 543 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,920 this be like a very average movie when I feel this has the potential to be on the same level, 544 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,040 if not better than the first. 545 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:43,520 Yeah, I really hope it's a great sequel because Inside Out is one of Pixar's best movies ever. 546 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:49,000 So I'm both scared and excited. 547 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,100 Yeah. 548 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,360 So I'm pumped. 549 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,360 I'm pumped. 550 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,320 Same here. 551 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,920 I'm going to be watching this movie very closely. 552 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,920 All right. 553 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,800 Um, all right. 554 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:10,000 Last up, we got the Little Mermaid to talk about. 555 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,240 And this movie has been catching a load of shit. 556 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:16,960 It is the dumbest reasons. 557 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Yeah, it is super dumb. 558 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:31,220 So if you don't know, they recast or they cast Ariel to be a black actress and the internet 559 00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:33,320 is going nuts. 560 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,680 Yeah. 561 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,880 Like, there are so many people, like people are really showing that, like with shit like 562 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,520 this, people really show their true colors and it pisses me off. 563 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,520 Dude, straight up. 564 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640 It's bullshit. 565 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:55,800 So everyone's throwing like a big old fit about Ariel being black. 566 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,560 The name's Halle Bailey. 567 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,760 Yeah, Halle Bailey. 568 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:07,440 And she looks incredible. 569 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,440 Damn right she does. 570 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:15,200 Dude, the CGI on this looks awesome. 571 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,680 Or at least from what we've seen so far, hopefully it's not just the trailer making this seem 572 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,480 like it's better than it is. 573 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,680 Frickin' better not. 574 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,680 I know. 575 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:32,720 But it looks like it's going to be beautifully shot. 576 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,000 Like the underwater scenes look incredible. 577 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,960 I think the only complaint is maybe it's just not as colorful as I would like it because 578 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:47,400 the Little Mermaid, the original Little Mermaid is like extremely colorful. 579 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:54,200 So maybe that might be my only complaint that they maybe went a little too far with the 580 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:59,120 hey, we're underwater thing. 581 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,600 And other than that, no complaints. 582 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Like she is an incredible singer. 583 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,920 Oh my god, don't get me started. 584 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Holy shit. 585 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,000 I almost started tearing up when I first heard her start singing. 586 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,640 I know, if there's anything I'm pissed off about is that she didn't sing more. 587 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,040 Yeah, right? 588 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,960 I wanted the whole version of Party That World. 589 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,080 I know, I'm just like, gosh, you're just going to give us this one clip? 590 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,080 Frickin' assholes. 591 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,400 Seriously, this is bullshit. 592 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,880 Oh, but it looks like it's going to be good. 593 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,400 And it seems like they're keeping pretty true. 594 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,680 Like, I don't know if you caught it, but it seemed like there was a flounder in there. 595 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,840 I did not actually, nice catch. 596 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Yeah, I mean, I might be wrong. 597 00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:00,720 Let me just play it back. 598 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,600 I have it open on. 599 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:11,160 Okay, yeah, it looks like there's a flounder looking fish following her when she's swimming 600 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,040 up to the surface. 601 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,260 Oh, okay. 602 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:22,800 If it's not, there is just a fish following her if it's not flounder. 603 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,720 I like it. 604 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,360 But she looks really good. 605 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:43,640 I like how her hair is in dreads and not just this perfect flowing red mane. 606 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,320 It feels a little bit more realistic that way. 607 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,080 It honestly does. 608 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,560 She just has a great look overall. 609 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,200 I think they got everything right in this. 610 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:09,000 They got the color of her fins damn near perfect. 611 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:21,080 One thing I can't tell is how they handled the transition from fin to skin. 612 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,260 You know what I mean? 613 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:25,680 You know how in the original Little Mermaid it kind of looked like she was wearing a really 614 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,200 thick belt around the fish part. 615 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:37,640 I can't really see that in this version. 616 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,640 But regardless... 617 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:48,440 Maybe when the actual first trailer comes out, maybe if we see her in a little more 618 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,040 of light, we might actually notice her. 619 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,040 Maybe. 620 00:42:54,040 --> 00:43:02,920 I can't get a good clear shot of that transition. 621 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,360 I like what they did with the tail, making it seem a little bit more complicated and 622 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,900 not just one big ass fin. 623 00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:16,600 It's like multiple fins spread out like how a fish would be. 624 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,160 Kind of like a zebrafish if you've seen one of those. 625 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,160 Yeah that's true. 626 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,160 But I don't know what everyone's complaining about. 627 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:35,120 I love how people are just like, oh well for that area, Little Mermaid's supposed to be 628 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,280 Danish or something. 629 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,360 Well Danish people are typically white. 630 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,760 Well cool, she's not Danish, she's Atlantean. 631 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,240 Freaking dumb bitches and Atlantis is fake. 632 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:50,240 So guess what? 633 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:54,880 She can be whatever race they want. 634 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,800 Yes exactly. 635 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,280 And I don't know why everyone's bitching, we're getting Terry Crews as King Triton. 636 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480 I could give a shit about Ariel. 637 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:14,400 I love that. 638 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:21,360 Yeah I'm pissed we didn't get to see Triton. 639 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,160 I was telling Caleb this earlier, I saw this on a TikTok. 640 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,640 One guy, someone commented on, I guess he had made an earlier video talking about how 641 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:38,200 it's so stupid how people are throwing it out of line about her being a black actress. 642 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,880 And someone said, well God what next they're gonna make Moana white? 643 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:49,160 And he came up back with, if you watch the movie it is clearly pointed out that Moana 644 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,560 and her whole tribe are Polynesian. 645 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,400 Polynesian people aren't white. 646 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,200 That's not how it works. 647 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:06,720 And yeah, and you know mermaids don't exist so they can literally just be any color. 648 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,560 Polynesian people are specifically one color. 649 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560 What you saying? 650 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,560 Yeah. 651 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,240 Dude I just- aww son of a bitch! 652 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,240 What? 653 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:20,240 What? 654 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:24,440 I just pulled up the IMDB for the Little Mermaid. 655 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,440 Yeah? 656 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,240 And now I'm pissed off. 657 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,040 Why? 658 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,840 So it's not Terry Crews playing King Triton. 659 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,160 Oh it's not? 660 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,240 No it's Javier Bardem. 661 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:41,240 Which I mean- 662 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:42,240 Interesting. 663 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,240 Yeah I know he's like a great actor and everything but- 664 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,240 Come on! 665 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,600 I don't know I actually like that better. 666 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,600 Do you really? 667 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,600 I already said that. 668 00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:00,160 Dude I love Javier Bardem so I love that casting. 669 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,640 Alright. 670 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,020 I'm just looking at like the cast right now. 671 00:46:06,020 --> 00:46:09,560 They have a pretty decent cast. 672 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:16,680 So Melissa McCarthy will be playing Ursula which I'm not sure how I feel about that. 673 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,040 I'm honestly amazed people aren't more up in arms about that. 674 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,360 That's all I'm gonna say. 675 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,200 Well I mean I'm cool with it. 676 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,400 I actually like- well just cause there are so many people that hate Melissa McCarthy. 677 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,280 Okay that's bullshit cause Melissa McCarthy is a gem. 678 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,280 She is. 679 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,280 I just don't know if she's the right fit for Ursula. 680 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,000 I can understand that. 681 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,400 I think she can do a great job. 682 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400 I'm very excited for it. 683 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,560 But yeah just literally the joke for so many people is oh yeah Melissa McCarthy she sucks 684 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,800 right out of Hollywood. 685 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,800 No. 686 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,800 Melissa McCarthy is amazing and hilarious. 687 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,320 It's not her fault that she gets given shit roles. 688 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,320 Yeah. 689 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,400 Seriously I feel bad for her. 690 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,720 But I'm excited. 691 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:16,160 I'm excited to see what she does. 692 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:25,240 I personally and this might just be like I don't know like what category this would fall 693 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,360 under. 694 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:34,560 I personally would have gone the route of choosing a drag queen for Ursula. 695 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,280 Oh my god yes. 696 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,960 Like not quite RuPaul because he- 697 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,400 Yes queen yes. 698 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:51,240 Like I would have gone with like a heftier like kind of the same build as Melissa McCarthy 699 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,120 just drag. 700 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,600 I would have loved to see that. 701 00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Same hair man. 702 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,040 Same hair. 703 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:07,000 So a little bummed out that we're not getting that but I'm I have high hopes that she's 704 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,600 gonna like blow me away. 705 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,600 Hopefully. 706 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,600 Yeah. 707 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,600 Let's see. 708 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:22,080 Oh it looks like they're not killing off Ariel's mom. 709 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,080 No shit. 710 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:29,040 Yeah because they have a queen cast. 711 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,080 Damn. 712 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,640 So that's gonna be the shit. 713 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,280 Let's see. 714 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:46,920 We have a David or David Diggs who's voicing Sebastian. 715 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:55,040 Which what did he do? 716 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,200 Okay so he's done a little bit of voice work. 717 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,720 I don't know if he's seeing. 718 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,080 Oh he's a singer. 719 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,800 It's in his freaking bio. 720 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,120 So excited for that. 721 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,560 Jacob Tremblay is voicing Flounder. 722 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,680 Awkwafina is voicing Scuttle. 723 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:22,280 And then there's a rumor that Lin-Manuel Miranda is gonna be Chef Louis. 724 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,720 Oh yeah I like that a lot. 725 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:29,800 I love that. 726 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,120 So I'm excited. 727 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:40,880 I'm really excited for this and I think the the shit that this movie is getting is stupid. 728 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,280 I absolutely agree. 729 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,040 It's bullshit. 730 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:55,480 Yeah but real quick we are going to do a quick little review of the YouTube comments. 731 00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,920 As suggested to us by Adam from the Simmons and Moore podcast. 732 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,920 And dude these comments are the shit. 733 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,360 So have you seen the Little Mermaid trailer? 734 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,080 Yes I have. 735 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:19,040 Okay that is important for you to have seen for these comments. 736 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,040 The first comment is the part where Ariel says it's over Anakin I have the high ground 737 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:31,160 made me cry goosebumps. 738 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:36,760 The part when Ariel said I am the knight I am vengeance I am Batman it was so great to 739 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:42,160 finally see in live action actually made me tear up it was on par with Morbius saying 740 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,720 it's morbin time. 741 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,100 Oh good lord. 742 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:52,960 The scene when Ariel sees Lieutenant Dan walking on his titanium alloy legs and says magic 743 00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,160 legs had me in tears. 744 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:08,000 The part where Ariel says I got two words for you shake and bake gave me chills. 745 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,360 The part where Ariel says I live my life a quarter mile at a time left me weak in the 746 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,800 knees literal chills. 747 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:25,120 The part where Ariel says I am the terror that swims in the night was absolutely brilliant 748 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:39,920 I cried actual tears. 749 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,960 The part where Ariel said Avengers assemble made me tear up and made my timbers shivered 750 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,240 it was truly amazing. 751 00:51:50,240 --> 00:52:05,560 The part where Ariel says what do you mean you people was Oscar worthy. 752 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:11,440 The part when Ursula says Prince Eric my dear Ariel welcome to Jurassic Park and proceeds 753 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,040 to show a herd of Brachiosaurus swimming truly touched my heart this is one of the most movies 754 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:26,960 of all time. 755 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:32,160 The part where Ariel says that's my secret cap I am always angry gave me chills such 756 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,020 an iconic moment from the Little Mermaid. 757 00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:41,520 The part where Ariel says you can't handle the truth made me cry more when my iguana 758 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:50,400 died. 759 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,200 And the part where Ariel says and you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance 760 00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:05,320 upon thee really tickled my fancy. 761 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,440 How is Disney not blocked these early turn off comments. 762 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,120 The part where Ariel looks at Sebastian and said we ride together we die together bad 763 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:24,800 voice for life brought tears to my eyes amazing performance. 764 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:30,680 The part where Ariel says I taught I taught a putty tat and I break down and cry for the 765 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:39,080 first time in years bravo. 766 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,400 The part where Ariel asks what's your favorite scary movie. 767 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:55,920 It was so chilling. 768 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,440 The part where Sebastian says she's starting to believe and then Ariel stops all the bullets 769 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:12,880 with her mind sent chills down my spine just stunning. 770 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,180 The part where Ariel soars through the air in her car and lands it perfectly between 771 00:54:17,180 --> 00:54:27,520 other parked vehicles before shouting like a glove cried tears of joy. 772 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,320 Dude this goes on for days. 773 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,280 Oh my god. 774 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:43,400 It's just like comment after comment after comment like this. 775 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,400 That is hilarious. 776 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,400 Wow. 777 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:52,000 And if I was given this in all bros letter grade this would be an A plus for the comment 778 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,000 section alone. 779 00:54:53,000 --> 00:55:00,600 Yeah you know I can absolutely agree with that. 780 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,400 Oh man. 781 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,640 Okay wow. 782 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:14,600 So that's the last D23 item that we're going to be talking about tonight. 783 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,280 And yeah. 784 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:26,280 So with that let's say we move on to this week's headliner where we break down Pinocchio. 785 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:46,880 Let's do it. 786 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,440 Alrighty for this week's headliner like I said we will be breaking down the 2022 remake 787 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,400 of Pinocchio. 788 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:00,800 If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories 789 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,800 that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade. 790 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:12,840 The categories that we score are story writing acting character development effects music 791 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,200 costumes and then we give it our own personal score at the very end. 792 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:23,080 All of those numbers get magically added up and thrown into our algorithm and spits out 793 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,960 a letter grade for us to compare this movie to other movies of a similar letter grade 794 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,040 and percentage. 795 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:43,240 So with that if you have not seen Pinocchio 2022 go check it out but we would also assume 796 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:48,440 that you haven't seen the original Pinocchio and if you haven't seen the original Pinocchio 797 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:55,200 you're many many many years too late. 798 00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:01,680 So we are about to spoil this entire movie for you. 799 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:08,600 So if you listen past this own point and something is ruined for you it is your own damn fault. 800 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:15,440 So with that Rose we'll be reading off the synopsis for this movie in our favorite segment 801 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,720 reading with Rose with two E's. 802 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:25,040 I love how you say favorite segment just because you enjoy watching me fuck up. 803 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,120 Don't call me out like that. 804 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,520 I am. 805 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,440 Late one night in a small Italian village in 1895 Jiminy Cricket enters the home of 806 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,200 a widowed elderly woodcarver named Geppetto who lives with his pet kitten Figaro and his 807 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,680 goldfish Cleo. 808 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:50,800 Geppetto has completed work on a marionette based on his deceased son which he names Pinocchio. 809 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,680 Before retiring to bed Geppetto makes a wish on a star. 810 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,340 Later that night the star magically brings Pinocchio to life and he is soon visited by 811 00:57:58,340 --> 00:58:03,600 the Blue Fairy who tells him that if he acts brave truthful and selfless he can be a real 812 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:04,600 boy. 813 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,560 The Blue Fairy also appoints Jiminy the responsibility of being Pinocchio's conscience to teach him 814 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,080 right from wrong. 815 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,640 When Geppetto awakens and finds Pinocchio alive he is at first shocked but becomes overjoyed. 816 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:21,160 After a few days Geppetto decides that the time has come to send Pinocchio to school. 817 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:26,080 However Pinocchio is soon approached by con artist Fox Honest John and his cat partner 818 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,680 Gideon. 819 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,520 Honest John convinces Pinocchio that he should live a life of fame in order to truly be a 820 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,920 real boy when he really plans to sell him to the puppet master Stromboli in exchange 821 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,260 for money. 822 00:58:39,260 --> 00:58:44,120 When Jiminy with the help of a seagull named Sophia convinces him to continue going to 823 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:50,320 school Pinocchio is then thrown out by the headmaster on account of being a puppet. 824 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,840 Pinocchio decides to go to Stromboli's after all with Jiminy unable to stop him when Honest 825 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,640 John places a glass jar over him. 826 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:03,320 At Stromboli's theater Pinocchio befriends one of Stromboli's employees Fabiana and 827 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,360 her puppet Sabina. 828 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,320 Neil puts on a good show for the crowd but Stromboli locks him in a bird cage to prevent 829 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,640 him from ever leaving. 830 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:18,240 Soon Stromboli's coach ends up freeing Jiminy from the jar and when he enters the coach 831 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:24,000 he manages to help Pinocchio escape when Pinocchio has him reach the keys to the lock on the cage 832 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,240 by telling lies to make his nose grow long. 833 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:35,320 Geppetto, Figaro and Cleo go out to look for Pinocchio when he fails to come home for dinner. 834 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:40,280 Soon Pinocchio is swiped up by a coach full of children driven by a charismatic coachman 835 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,080 who is taking all the boys and girls to Pleasure Island, an island where misbehaved children 836 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,000 are encouraged. 837 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,560 When they reach the island Pinocchio slowly gets disturbed by the amount of sadism the 838 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:57,980 kids commit much to the amusement of an irresponsible boy named Lampwick. 839 00:59:57,980 --> 01:00:01,940 When Jiminy who got separated from Pinocchio again makes it to the island he soon finds 840 01:00:01,940 --> 01:00:06,400 out that all the boys and girls have turned into donkeys and the coachman sells them to 841 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:12,280 the salt mines with help from his fog like henchmen. 842 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:23,200 Pinocchio witnesses Lampwick get transformed himself at a billboard hall and he and Jiminy 843 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,480 escape the island before the coachman and his goons can get them but not before Pinocchio 844 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:33,040 gains donkey ears and a tail. 845 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,000 Pinocchio and Jiminy make it back to Geppetto's but find that he's not home because Sofia 846 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,120 gave him a flyer of Pleasure Island to let him know where Pinocchio is and he sold all 847 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,600 of his clocks to buy a boat to go there. 848 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:52,200 How expensive is a frickin' boat? 849 01:00:52,200 --> 01:01:03,680 For how much that one guy was offering Geppetto for that one clock at the beginning, while 850 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,520 trying to find Geppetto Pinocchio reunites with Fabiana and Sabina who tell him that 851 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:16,640 Stromboli has been arrested by the Carabinari for the abuse of his exploited employees and 852 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,840 they have taken over his puppet show. 853 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:23,920 They offer Pinocchio to join them but Pinocchio declines wanting to save his father which 854 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,640 makes the abuse of his exploited... 855 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,640 Wait, sorry. 856 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,120 Wow, okay, sorry. 857 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,840 So because he declines that makes his donkey parts disappear. 858 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,440 Sofia pulls a rope for Pinocchio to hold out to the sea where they soon find Geppetto in 859 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,840 his boat. 860 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,280 Just as they reunite they are swallowed by a giant sea monster named Monstro. 861 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,920 They take refuge in a giant boat in Monstro's stomach and Pinocchio gets the idea to make 862 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,720 him sneeze by starting a fire within him. 863 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:57,600 The plan is successful and Monstro sneezes them out but he gives a chase that ends with 864 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,760 him and the group crashing on dry land and seemingly killing Geppetto. 865 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,160 Believing his father has died Pinocchio mourns over him and a magical tear falls from his 866 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,200 eye on Geppetto reviving him. 867 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,440 Okay, okay, sorry. 868 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,240 Geppetto then tells Pinocchio that despite being a puppet he has proven himself to be 869 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,880 a true boy at heart for all that he's done and they depart for home. 870 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,000 Meanwhile Jiminy says in his narration that stories have been told that Pinocchio is becoming 871 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,920 a real boy but doesn't confirm if they are true or not. 872 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,920 He's stressing that what matters is that Pinocchio has the heart of a real boy, brave, truthful 873 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:44,840 and unselfish and that he's fully real to his loving proud father. 874 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,200 Yeah. 875 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:57,720 I think if anyone can tell by the tone of your voice you have very strong opinions on 876 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,000 that ending. 877 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,920 I do. 878 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,120 Quite a lot. 879 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,120 But we'll get to that. 880 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:16,680 Alright well, let's just knock this out with getting into our story. 881 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:22,840 I don't know if I had as many problems with the story as you might have. 882 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:28,800 I think, like I told you this before, like while we were talking about it a little earlier. 883 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:36,680 I feel like they took out a lot of the fluff from the original. 884 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,680 Yes. 885 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:45,480 Like they took out a lot of the scenes where it just like kind of goes to kind of the pointless 886 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,480 stuff. 887 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,040 Like one of the things that I was kind of glad that they got rid of was the whole underwater 888 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:58,880 scene where Pinocchio was hunting for or was searching for Monstro. 889 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,880 Like underwater and like tied his tail to a rock and did all that. 890 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,160 Like I'm so glad they got rid of that. 891 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:13,640 Oh come on, you don't want to see the fish try to steal Jiminy's hat again? 892 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,120 No. 893 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,160 I don't. 894 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,280 Oh shit. 895 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,600 I will admit I didn't mind that change. 896 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,120 I wish that in the freaking original that he could freaking like paddle his feet like 897 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,520 he could in this movie. 898 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,440 Where the hell was that in the original? 899 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,640 Yeah, no shit. 900 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,280 Where did that come from? 901 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,360 Yeah. 902 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,000 That pulled me out of the movie a little bit. 903 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,920 I'm just like that's not how anything works. 904 01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:49,000 Yeah, dude, it straight up reminded me of like freaking Dash and the Incredibles. 905 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,080 Oh my gosh, yes. 906 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:57,920 I'm like dude, that was such a load of crap. 907 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,680 First off, like if he had fins, maybe. 908 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,200 Just his little dinky ass rounded boots. 909 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:09,400 No way in hell you're out swimming a freaking sea monster. 910 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,800 Yeah. 911 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaking of the sea monster, I hate that they made it out to not be a whale. 912 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,360 It's a straight up sea monster. 913 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,560 The way they hype up that it's a sea monster. 914 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,520 Now in the original, it's just the whale. 915 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,800 Of course kids will say, oh yeah, yeah, it's a sea monster. 916 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,440 But no, it's just straight up a whale. 917 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,440 That's all it is. 918 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:39,600 It's called monster, but it's just straight up a whale. 919 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:45,520 The way that they made him look in this movie, yeah, he definitely looks like a sea creature, 920 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,160 like a scary sea creature, but that really pissed me off that it doesn't exactly look 921 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,000 just like a damn plain whale. 922 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:59,840 Dude, I was losing my mind at that change. 923 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:06,040 I didn't mind it because it kept, at least for me, it scared the shit out of me. 924 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,720 I wouldn't say it scared me. 925 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:14,680 Dude, I probably wasn't scared because I was so pissed off. 926 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:20,440 Dude, I don't know if I'm just like recent, I don't know when this happened, but anything 927 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:28,600 that's like a giant ass creature in a distance or in some sort of dark abyss and you can 928 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:35,920 just see the eyes or some shit like that scares the ever living shit out of me. 929 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:45,000 And so I had such an extreme reaction when they were in the boat and then you just see 930 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:51,000 the freaking mouths enclose them. 931 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,760 I flipped out. 932 01:06:53,760 --> 01:07:02,200 I was like, oh my god, I don't like that. 933 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,320 I don't like that. 934 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,400 Dude, there's a scene. 935 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,080 So there's a movie on Netflix right now. 936 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,000 It's called The Sea Beast. 937 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:17,120 I have not watched it, even though I've heard nothing but good things about it, because 938 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,560 there is a scene exactly like that. 939 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:28,520 Where like I caught a clip in a video where this dude is swimming down in the ocean, like 940 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,040 in the middle of the ocean. 941 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,920 He's swimming downward to save this little girl from drowning. 942 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,760 He gets the little girl and then he pauses and looks down. 943 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,640 When he looks down, it's like a top down view. 944 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,440 So you see him and he's really small, right? 945 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:52,920 And then it's just like eternal abyss. 946 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:58,880 And then a quick little moment happens and then you see the face of this sea creature 947 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:06,120 appear like super bright eyes and then you see the dark mouth and I'm like, absolutely 948 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:14,280 the not. 949 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,240 I am like terrified. 950 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,760 I don't know what it's about. 951 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,200 It seems like that. 952 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,040 Or like if you remember Stranger Things, when you see the mind flayer from like season two? 953 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:33,960 Yeah, season two, where you see like it's like nothing in the clouds and then lightning 954 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,560 strikes and then you see the freaking mind flayer. 955 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,480 Oh, yeah. 956 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,440 Shit like that scares the hell out of me, too. 957 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:43,120 Like it's it's it's freaking. 958 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:50,160 Kaiju shit scares the ever living bejesus out of me. 959 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,720 Oh, dude, I love it. 960 01:08:53,720 --> 01:09:00,280 And so like what they did with him just made like with monstro made me so much more afraid 961 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:05,760 of him than I was when he was just a whale. 962 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,880 I thought it was kind of dumb. 963 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,720 Like I thought like looking back, like I can definitely agree with you. 964 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,800 They probably should just kept it a whale. 965 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,800 Yeah. 966 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:24,800 But I think that the tentacles just added a little something that was a little bit more 967 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,560 unsettling for me. 968 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:35,040 OK, I can understand where you're coming from. 969 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,760 I'm not sure how you liked it. 970 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:51,000 Did you like the addition of the puppeteer girl? 971 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,000 Yeah, I actually did. 972 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,920 I thought that was that was actually a really good addition. 973 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,840 Yeah, I really like that, too. 974 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,120 Like I thought she was a great character. 975 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:11,760 It's like and the way that she used her puppeteering abilities to connect with Pinocchio. 976 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:20,800 Yeah, because like I don't know, it was cool seeing Pinocchio actually being able to like 977 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:26,080 make a friend besides, you know, Jiminy, of course. 978 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:32,680 But I mean, yeah, in the original, literally all that he has is Jiminy and his father, 979 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:38,680 because literally we all know Figaro and the I mean, Figaro, she like I feel like she loves 980 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,680 and hates Pinocchio. 981 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:46,960 Yeah, because and then she what's the fish's name? 982 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,320 I always forget the fish's name. 983 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,320 I don't know why. 984 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,320 Yeah, I forget it, too. 985 01:10:50,320 --> 01:11:01,640 I'm gonna feel stupid if I don't remember it. 986 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:07,360 Cleo that's her name. 987 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:14,080 So I do like that this one, you know, Pinocchio was able to, you know, make a friend with 988 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,960 everything that went on with Stromboli. 989 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,040 That like, even when he gets trapped and you know, Sabina comes down, he's just like, you 990 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,800 know, I feel that you might be the only one I can trust. 991 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,200 I can't trust anybody else in this. 992 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,200 I can't even trust. 993 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,400 Oh my god, what was her name again? 994 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,400 Fabiana? 995 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,400 Yeah, yeah. 996 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,320 Like he even says I can't trust her either. 997 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,440 Can't, of course, can't trust Stromboli. 998 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:45,040 So I actually really liked the fact that he was actually able to find closeness with another 999 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,040 puppet. 1000 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,320 That was actually really cool. 1001 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:55,280 Yeah, honestly, my only complaint with Fabiana and Sabina was that Sabina had a different 1002 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,640 voice. 1003 01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:02,000 And it felt it felt weird that voice coming out of Fabiana. 1004 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,800 And I don't think the actress that played Fabiana did a very good job at like doing 1005 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,120 the lip syncing. 1006 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,400 That is fair. 1007 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,800 I will give you that when they cut to her actually like, you know, like doing that, 1008 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040 you might want to try a little harder. 1009 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,040 I get your your young. 1010 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,040 Exactly. 1011 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,080 That was a little practice. 1012 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,920 Yeah, work on it. 1013 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,920 Just the hair. 1014 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,280 Yeah. 1015 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:36,320 But I mean, I feel like they kept pretty true to the original source material while throwing 1016 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,920 in some of like some updated. 1017 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:47,000 Yeah, you know, might as well just bring it up now. 1018 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,560 The biggest thing that I feel that pisses a lot of fans off of the original and honestly, 1019 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:57,160 I'm in that same boat because I think I said this like before last episode when we were 1020 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,120 announcing they were reviewing Pinocchio. 1021 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,320 Pinocchio is actually my favorite classic Disney movie. 1022 01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,760 I freaking love that movie to death. 1023 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:13,080 And so when I like saw like, oh, the ending is going to piss off like fans of the original, 1024 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,080 like they change it. 1025 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,840 Like I'm like, well, like how bad like what what did they change? 1026 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:24,080 And like I read, it's not clearly pointed out if he becomes a real boy or not. 1027 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:30,160 Literally some people say, oh, he became a real boy or no, it's just he has the heart 1028 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,640 of a real boy. 1029 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:38,240 Because in the original Pinocchio is presumed dead because in the original it's not Geppetto 1030 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,560 that presumably dies. 1031 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,880 It's Pinocchio. 1032 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:47,680 And when he comes, when they bring Pinocchio back to Geppetto's workshop, the blue fairy 1033 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,720 appears, she brings him back. 1034 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:55,120 And because of his selflessness and everything that he did for his father, she truly believes 1035 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,840 that he's become a real boy and he becomes a real boy. 1036 01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,840 And it's great. 1037 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:00,840 I love it. 1038 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,120 I love that ending. 1039 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,200 I don't I'm sorry. 1040 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,200 I don't like that. 1041 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:10,200 It's it's not a oh, he's he's specifically a real boy or no, he actually wasn't able 1042 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,200 to become a real boy. 1043 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,200 I don't like that. 1044 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,200 It's up for question. 1045 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,160 Like, oh, some say this, but some say this. 1046 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,160 I hate that. 1047 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,160 I'm sorry. 1048 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,680 It has to be one or the other. 1049 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,440 Okay. 1050 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:35,040 I have like I rewatch the ending and you absolutely do see the wooden joints of Pinocchio go away. 1051 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,000 Oh, you do? 1052 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,000 Yes. 1053 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,840 Oh, so you can see why the hell did Jiminy say that? 1054 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,720 I don't know. 1055 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,680 I thought that was that was also dumb. 1056 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:56,520 But it's just they did show, but I understand why they kind of left it ambiguous. 1057 01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:04,440 I I get it because think about like how the original happened or what happened in the 1058 01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:05,520 original. 1059 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,000 He was laying down on the bed, right? 1060 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,760 And then it's like fairy magic and he slowly turns into a real boy. 1061 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:21,060 And then the real boy version of himself looks exactly like the puppet version, right? 1062 01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:25,120 Other than like the nose and some other features, right? 1063 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,080 Yeah. 1064 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:38,520 The reason I feel they did not show that is because they how do you like make that transition? 1065 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:46,200 Like, how do you make that transition from like puppet to real boy with where it's like 1066 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:52,160 an exact one for one without it looking weird? 1067 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,640 God damn it. 1068 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,320 You got a point there. 1069 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,560 God, you son of a bitch. 1070 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,800 I know I don't like it. 1071 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,600 But why don't you like it? 1072 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,080 You make a very good point. 1073 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:15,080 I know I would have really liked to see Pinocchio, but it also would have been weird to see a 1074 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,800 puppet sized child. 1075 01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,800 Fair enough. 1076 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:27,640 It's just still weird that I think they should have made Pinocchio bigger and actually shown 1077 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,640 the fate like the full body and everything. 1078 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:41,920 Well, I mean, couldn't they have, I mean, because it's showed clearly that the literally 1079 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:49,160 when the blue fairy comes, the picture that Geppetto has of his deceased son, all of those 1080 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:56,040 personalities are put into Pinocchio because literally the blue fairy shines or blasts her 1081 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:02,120 magic on the picture of his deceased son and that bounces off into Pinocchio. 1082 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:06,560 So I'm wondering, because I don't know where they got that picture from or like who that 1083 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,960 actor was. 1084 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,960 Do you think if that if like they literally just took a kid and like, you know, like black 1085 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:20,680 and black and white did that picture, do you think they could have used that kid to transition 1086 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,120 to real boy? 1087 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:33,240 I don't know, because it's not. 1088 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,680 He modeled Pinocchio after his son. 1089 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,800 He wasn't trying to like replace his son. 1090 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:42,800 Good point. 1091 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:48,880 So I think if they would have just used the whatever picture of the kid or the actor from 1092 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:55,120 the picture and it had been like a clone of his son, I think that would have been weird. 1093 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,120 All right. 1094 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,120 Fair enough. 1095 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:03,840 It's just like, hey, my my son's dead, but I have his clone that I made out of wood and 1096 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,280 then he sacrifices or then I sacrificed myself for him. 1097 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:13,640 And then now he's like a real boy, but now he looks exactly like my my dead son. 1098 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,880 I think that would have been weird. 1099 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaking of his to see son in that picture, how did you feel about them explaining with 1100 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:29,440 how, you know, Geppetto is with what he lost his wife and they lost his son. 1101 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:31,560 How did you feel about that explanation? 1102 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,560 Because that is not explained. 1103 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,360 That is not in the original at all. 1104 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,600 They they never mentioned that at all. 1105 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,000 No son, no wife. 1106 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,760 I did not hate it. 1107 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,480 I think I don't know. 1108 01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:49,320 I didn't hate it. 1109 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:56,000 It explained to me why Geppetto wanted a child. 1110 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,280 Yeah, it's like because it's it. 1111 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:05,040 It felt a little creepy in the original where Geppetto is just like, I just want a son. 1112 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,440 I'm like, hey, why don't you go out and date? 1113 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:15,800 Like if you want a son, you don't have to wish for one upon a star. 1114 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,960 You can go and frickin have a you don't even have to do that much work. 1115 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:28,240 You could go like hire a hooker and be like, hey, you're talking about a frickin hooker 1116 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,240 in 1895. 1117 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,240 It's not like they were uncommon. 1118 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:41,200 It's just the way you're talking about, so yeah, you know, adopt don't shop when it comes 1119 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,200 to your son. 1120 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:49,520 Yeah, like you don't even have to like fall in love to have a child. 1121 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:56,880 Like you can have a child on accident. 1122 01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:01,880 I just don't think Geppetto was trying hard enough. 1123 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:06,600 At least the animated one. 1124 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,400 The animated Geppetto could have tried a little harder. 1125 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:17,700 This Geppetto, I completely understand his reasoning for wishing for it or like wishing 1126 01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:21,160 for Pinocchio to be a real boy. 1127 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,700 See, I don't know. 1128 01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:24,700 Maybe it's just me. 1129 01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:30,120 I feel he got a little too fixated on him becoming a real boy with the fact like, oh, 1130 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,440 you know, wouldn't it be so cool, Figaro, if he became a real boy because I modeled 1131 01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:36,120 him after my dead son? 1132 01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,560 And this is probably sounding like a frickin asshole. 1133 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,800 But just, I don't know, in the original he's just like, oh, you know, I feel they went 1134 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:52,920 into like a little too much detail, not detail, but him like really pushing for Pinocchio 1135 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,840 to be a real boy. 1136 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,360 And it's a little too much. 1137 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:02,240 Like, in this one? 1138 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:07,520 Okay, maybe I'm explaining this part too hard for it in the original. 1139 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,520 Really? 1140 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,080 Because I feel the opposite. 1141 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:17,680 Just I don't know, like for how much detail, for how much like he points out like, oh, 1142 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:22,480 you know, like I said, like how he's like, oh, you know, since I modeled him after my 1143 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:30,960 dead son, wouldn't it be so cool if he could actually come to life and be a real boy? 1144 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,560 I think it's the fact that like him pointing out, because like in the original, like there's 1145 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,000 no mention of him having a deceased son. 1146 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:42,080 I think it's the deceased son for me, for some reason, that just makes it like a little 1147 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,080 weird. 1148 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:53,080 Dude, I think it's weird for an old man to be wishing for a child. 1149 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,840 Hey man, Disney got a Disney. 1150 01:21:54,840 --> 01:22:04,560 I know, I know Disney's got a Disney, but still, it just feels like a little shady. 1151 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,120 But I mean, I get you. 1152 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:14,560 I think maybe they did push for a little harder in this one. 1153 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:19,880 If there is, and I was telling Caleb this, if there's one thing that I actually liked 1154 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:25,480 that they did like add depth to is the fact that there is actually like from the moment 1155 01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:31,000 Pinocchio comes to life and between when he goes to school, there is actually like a little 1156 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,200 bit of leeway between that of like, you know, Geppetto, like actually like getting him accustomed 1157 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,640 to life living there, you know, maybe like teaching him some things. 1158 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,360 Whereas because I think like he's just like, oh, well, you know, like, I think it's time 1159 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:48,840 for it because I believe he's telling Figaro and Cleo like, oh, I think it's time that 1160 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,120 Pinocchio starts school. 1161 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,960 I think that's right for him. 1162 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:57,280 Whereas in the original, literally the exact same fricking night that he comes to life, 1163 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:02,000 they're all laying in bed and he's just like, oh, you know, like we need to get to sleep 1164 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,000 and Pinocchio's like, why? 1165 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,920 He's like, well, everybody needs sleep and you got school tomorrow. 1166 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,960 I'm like, well, that was fricking fast. 1167 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,920 You're not even going to like enjoy time with your son now. 1168 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:13,360 Like fine, send him off. 1169 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:18,800 Like Caleb pointed out, CinemaSins pointed out, Geppetto is like the like shitty uncle 1170 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,520 that literally doesn't want any quality time. 1171 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,880 Literally just to ship him off to school. 1172 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,780 Yeah, they're there. 1173 01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:29,080 He's their problem now. 1174 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,080 Yeah. 1175 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,080 Like what? 1176 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:39,120 Okay, like if I'm putting myself in that same situ, like the exact same Geppetto situation 1177 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:50,040 and I were to build a puppet, wish for it to become real and then it came to life. 1178 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:59,240 The idea of that puppet going to school would not even cross my mind. 1179 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,320 Like there's no way. 1180 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:06,520 Like it's just like, like it's a completely normal thing. 1181 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,600 Like that's like what fricking throws me off. 1182 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,400 Like with the original one, it's just like what? 1183 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,760 It's like, oh, wooden boy, just another day in this little village. 1184 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,000 Like what? 1185 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:26,200 I mean, I guess you have a walking, like a walking and talking fox and all. 1186 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,400 Yeah, dude, straight up. 1187 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:32,000 I don't know about you, but like even in like the animated one, especially in this live 1188 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:37,760 action one when you see like the kids walking by and Honest John says like, oh, you know, 1189 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,760 little squirts heading off to school, you know, all that stuff. 1190 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,560 And I'm just like, if I was a little kid, I'd like freaking start screaming and running 1191 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,000 if I saw a talking fox. 1192 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:54,360 Yeah, like what in the actual hell? 1193 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:59,940 And then it just kind of makes me think like it's kind of like one of the the Pluto goofy 1194 01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:04,720 scenario with Figaro and Honest or and what's his name? 1195 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:05,720 Gideon. 1196 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,720 Yeah, Gideon. 1197 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,720 Like, OK, who's the who's the freak? 1198 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:18,260 It's actually like a full like a full sentient cat that like has the ability to walk and 1199 01:25:18,260 --> 01:25:24,680 talk and just chooses not to and wants to be a pet or is it Gideon that's the odd one 1200 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,740 out? 1201 01:25:28,740 --> 01:25:31,240 We need answers, Disney. 1202 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,240 Yeah, like they really need to address the frickin Pluto. 1203 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,240 They really do. 1204 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,440 Yeah, dude, straight up. 1205 01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:41,520 Yeah, that has always bugged me, too. 1206 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,520 Yeah. 1207 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:48,400 And dude, what even like freaks me out more is like the the wonderful world of Mickey 1208 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,680 Mouse on Disney Plus. 1209 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:55,480 Like I've we've seen frickin goofy walking Pluto. 1210 01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:59,920 Like this is just quite a Twilight Zone shit is this. 1211 01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:06,520 Yeah, this is just there's a little no bueno area here. 1212 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:12,920 And unfortunately, I feel like Pluto's the freak. 1213 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,720 Oh, shit. 1214 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,720 But anyway. 1215 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:25,160 Oh, may I get back into Pinocchio? 1216 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:34,640 They like I said, I feel like they follow the source material as well as they could. 1217 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:41,120 The intro for it, like when you see Jiminy Cricket and or when we meet Jiminy Cricket 1218 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:47,560 and him jumping around from from place to place and finding like a good place to stay 1219 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:53,800 at your pedos or whatever and like the whole conscious thing. 1220 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:54,800 Correct me if I'm wrong. 1221 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,800 Did Jiminy play a bigger part in the original? 1222 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,240 Because it felt like this whole story could have happened without Jiminy. 1223 01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,240 Yes. 1224 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,520 Oh, he absolutely did. 1225 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:11,480 Pinocchio could in my opinion, Pinocchio could not happen without Jiminy Cricket. 1226 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:13,800 This one could have. 1227 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,000 Absolutely. 1228 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,560 And that's like nothing bad to say about the actor for our Joseph Gordon Levitt, who voiced 1229 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:21,560 Jiminy Cricket. 1230 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,320 He he was not going to say that for acting. 1231 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,320 Yeah. 1232 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:34,240 But yeah, I feel like they they kind of sidelined Jiminy a lot. 1233 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,360 And then it just felt like bullshit. 1234 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:44,720 I felt like they just convenience their way into including him or getting him back into 1235 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,280 like the story. 1236 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:51,840 Yeah, because like honestly, it felt like they tried to put more focus on pedo. 1237 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,360 And I'm sorry, I did not like that. 1238 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,200 Nothing against Tom Hanks. 1239 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,520 It's just that's not how the original goes. 1240 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:04,840 Like I didn't really need as much backstory as they give for Geppetto. 1241 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,840 Yeah. 1242 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:17,400 Dude, I want to know why in the hell Geppetto felt like it was a good idea to sell his entire 1243 01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:24,760 home and all of his clocks and all like all that shit to buy a shitty ass boat. 1244 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:32,800 Dude, like after not leaving his house for who knows how long. 1245 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,760 Yeah. 1246 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,720 And that was like another thing that I was feeling like, why like, hey, you got this 1247 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:44,200 this magical boy that you're just kind of sending to school. 1248 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,680 Wouldn't you want to walk with him to make sure he gets there first off, not just give 1249 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:55,960 him directions, then making sure that the the people that are teaching are OK with this 1250 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,480 sudden wooden boy appearing? 1251 01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:03,840 Yeah, instead, he just literally points to the kids just walking to school. 1252 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,840 Oh, yeah, just follow them. 1253 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,840 You're good. 1254 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:07,840 Yeah. 1255 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,900 But and then like later it's addressed like, oh, I haven't left the house in this in so 1256 01:29:12,900 --> 01:29:13,900 long. 1257 01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:15,320 Like, OK, cool. 1258 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:20,320 We could have used that backstory a little bit when it was like, hey, are you going to 1259 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:21,440 walk me to school? 1260 01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:28,320 And then like, oh, no, I haven't left the whole like explain it like and not make like 1261 01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,320 for a while. 1262 01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:34,240 I just felt like Geppetto was being negligent. 1263 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:35,440 Maybe it's sorry. 1264 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:36,440 One more thing with the story. 1265 01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:41,720 It's not like he wasn't born this weekend. 1266 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:46,080 I just want to point one more change that but and it's like it's such a little change 1267 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,480 and I don't know why it like bugged this shit out of me. 1268 01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:49,480 I want your opinion. 1269 01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:55,360 So when in the original when Geppetto goes to look for Pinocchio, it's just him that 1270 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,360 goes. 1271 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,360 It's just him. 1272 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:58,360 He lives. 1273 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,400 He leaves Figaro and Cleo, Cleo, right? 1274 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:02,400 Yes. 1275 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,400 Yeah. 1276 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,760 He he leaves them home because like, you know, like he already had dinner made and everything. 1277 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:12,160 And I mean, I said in this one, but, you know, he tells, you know, like nobody to eat it. 1278 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:17,200 We you know, we won't eat until Pinocchio gets we I bring Pinocchio home and little. 1279 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,200 It's just him that goes. 1280 01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,640 Whereas in this one, he brings Figaro and Cleo. 1281 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:31,040 And I just feel that's like I'm sorry, unnecessary baggage, not that they're baggage, but just 1282 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:36,040 I feel like they're going to slow you down, especially having to carry Cleo's big ass 1283 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,040 fishbowl. 1284 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:46,200 Do can you scream plot convenience with freaking Cleo's fishbowl? 1285 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,520 Dude, right? 1286 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,000 Freaking late ridiculous. 1287 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,080 The way that like when he's like heading out and the way that like Tom Hanks was holding 1288 01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,680 it and like shaking it so bad, I'm like, dude, literally half of that water is going to be 1289 01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,200 gone by the time you step out the door. 1290 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:04,680 Yeah. 1291 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,720 Dude, freaking hell. 1292 01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:15,240 When I'm so glad that they addressed all of the shit that Pinocchio was somehow able to 1293 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,600 do in one day. 1294 01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,600 That was funny. 1295 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,360 I will admit to that. 1296 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:27,240 I'm given props for that in writing, but I'm so glad that they addressed that. 1297 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,080 They're like, oh, I became famous. 1298 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:34,000 And like, just thinking back, he did a whole like he had a whole performance. 1299 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:40,880 Like, ready to go at Stromboli's in less than like a couple hours. 1300 01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,200 Yeah, that's true. 1301 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:45,200 Like what? 1302 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,200 Very true. 1303 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,400 Yeah, seriously, though. 1304 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,400 Yeah. 1305 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:56,800 And then he got kidnapped to go to freaking Pleasure Island. 1306 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:02,720 Like, ridiculous. 1307 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:06,880 I mean, we haven't even gotten to the whole like Pleasure Island thing. 1308 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,680 Oh, yeah. 1309 01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:09,680 Shit. 1310 01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,840 I am so glad that they that they changed it to root beer. 1311 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,520 Dude, yeah, because I was watching the original. 1312 01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,560 I'm like, wait, they're not drinking a lot. 1313 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,240 Oh, yeah, it's the cigars. 1314 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,280 I forgot about that. 1315 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:24,280 Yep. 1316 01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:33,960 I honestly loved that the show showman show was his name. 1317 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,680 Coachman Coachman. 1318 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,680 Thank you. 1319 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:41,600 I'm amazed that they never gave him a name in the original, but whatever. 1320 01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,120 They didn't give him a name in this one either. 1321 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,560 Yeah, that's weird. 1322 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:46,560 But whatever. 1323 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,440 Like literally just like out of nowhere, he would just like literally come up from the 1324 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,560 ground and be like, hey, here's another root beer. 1325 01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:58,800 Yeah, I I really like that they included him a bit more. 1326 01:32:58,800 --> 01:32:59,800 I did, too. 1327 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:06,520 I mean, what I wish is that because like when was the last time you watched the original? 1328 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:07,800 It's been a long time. 1329 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:13,800 Like, that's why I watched the the cinema sins in preparation for this episode, because 1330 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,920 I knew they would cover most of it. 1331 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,320 Because I forgot about the scene actually in the movie. 1332 01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:27,640 There's a part where before the coachman takes the kids to Pleasure Island, there's a part 1333 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,400 where he actually meets with Honest John and Gideon. 1334 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:38,800 And you know, he's telling him that, oh, you know, I can if you get me some like, you know, 1335 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,000 stupid kids in the night or you know what I mean? 1336 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,640 You know, I'll pay fancy for it. 1337 01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:50,520 And he even it goes into detail with like the frickin like, oh, you know, like I turn him 1338 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,160 into donkeys and, you know, take him to salt mines and everything. 1339 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,780 And I like honestly forgot that that was an actual scene in the in the animated one. 1340 01:33:57,780 --> 01:34:04,800 So it would have been nice to actually have the coachman and Honest John like have that 1341 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:10,220 sort of like interaction more instead of them being like, oh, like honestly, in in this 1342 01:34:10,220 --> 01:34:13,520 movie, I feel like they never even crossed paths. 1343 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:18,800 But at the same time, I don't know if that could have worked. 1344 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,880 What do you think? 1345 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:26,440 The way they went about it worked just fine, where it's just like, hey, getting picked 1346 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:32,560 up at a street corner, which kind of felt a little hooker esque, but a frickin little 1347 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:33,560 bit. 1348 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,560 Yeah. 1349 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:38,840 So I think I think they went about it the best way that they could. 1350 01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,280 And without it feeling like super out of place. 1351 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,280 Like yes, it did feel like it came out of nowhere. 1352 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:53,720 But they explained it in a way where I'm like, OK, I get that. 1353 01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,880 Fair enough. 1354 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:56,880 Like you pointed out, though. 1355 01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,600 It's also like I feel like sorry, I mean, just no, I think the way that they set up 1356 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:08,680 Pinocchio and his his his innocence, I don't think he would have chosen to go to Pleasure 1357 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,240 Island. 1358 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:18,960 Like how did he how did he get wrapped up in that in the original? 1359 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:27,520 So in the original, it's so he runs into Honest John and Gideon again. 1360 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:39,160 And it's them that persuade him to go to Pleasure Island because that's like make his dad proud 1361 01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,240 as if he's able to like go go there or some shit like that. 1362 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,660 And then like literally after they're able to talk him into it, it just cuts to him already 1363 01:35:47,660 --> 01:35:49,880 being in the stagecoach. 1364 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,900 OK, yeah. 1365 01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:54,920 So I do not feel like that would have worked out. 1366 01:35:54,920 --> 01:36:01,720 I think he had negative feelings towards Honest John. 1367 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,500 And and all that and like was upset. 1368 01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:09,000 And I think it would have been a stretch for him to like buy into the whole Pleasure Island 1369 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:14,680 thing if Honest John were the one to try and sell it to him. 1370 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:15,680 That is fair. 1371 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,880 That is that is absolutely fair. 1372 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:25,760 So I think the the original Pinocchio was a little bit more naive. 1373 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,640 To Yeah, fair enough. 1374 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,360 To everything going on around him. 1375 01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,760 I think this Pinocchio was able to learn fairly quickly. 1376 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:40,720 And so I think it made sense for him to be pulled into the situation rather than choosing 1377 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,440 to go into it. 1378 01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:47,760 Yeah, from an outside source, because I think he was already just very untrusting, which 1379 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,520 he proved when he didn't want to talk to. 1380 01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,200 Oh shit, what was her name? 1381 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,200 Fabiana. 1382 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,040 That that is a good point. 1383 01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,040 Yeah. 1384 01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,040 So he was he was distrusting of humans. 1385 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,100 He was only trusting of puppets. 1386 01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:09,100 So I think I think it made sense for what they did. 1387 01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:13,720 So where are you at with the story? 1388 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:20,720 So I mean, I think both of us are just kind of comparing this to the original. 1389 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,480 I'm going I'm trying really hard to try and disassociate myself from the original with 1390 01:37:25,480 --> 01:37:26,480 this one. 1391 01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,880 See, I feel that it's very hard to do that. 1392 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:37,200 And I feel like a lot of people don't because you are saying that it is a live action remake. 1393 01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,240 It's still associated with the original. 1394 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,760 So they're trying to just retell what you got in the original, but update it for, you 1395 01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,000 know, like a newer, newer audience. 1396 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:51,000 So I feel you, you honestly can't help but compare it to the original. 1397 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,520 I feel that's what it meant to be. 1398 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:54,520 Right. 1399 01:37:54,520 --> 01:38:02,120 But I mean, if you're if you're I think it's tough, it's tough to do to do that as well, 1400 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:06,240 at least in like a review like this, because it's like, hey, something that worked in the 1401 01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:10,560 original that wouldn't have worked out in this one. 1402 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,560 Like the whole drinking beer and like the cigars, like obviously for a modern age where 1403 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:22,400 that's like where kids smoking and drinking beer is frowned upon. 1404 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,320 I think they had to do some changes and stuff. 1405 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:33,120 And I think it'd be unfair to come to make that comparison. 1406 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,000 Fair enough. 1407 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:43,240 So I mean, my like if you like you rate the story how you're wanting to. 1408 01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:49,280 I'm I'm sitting at like an eighty six. 1409 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,320 Oh, damn. 1410 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:58,200 Like is that a like a high or no, that the other that's a lot higher than me. 1411 01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,200 Yeah. 1412 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:05,920 So I'm going I'm going in eighty six because I feel like they were able to remove all of 1413 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,600 the issues that I personally had with the original story. 1414 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,520 Like they were able to clean it up. 1415 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,960 They were able to make it. 1416 01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:21,480 Kid friend or relatively kid friendly for the modern age while keeping those those intense 1417 01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:24,400 moments intense. 1418 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:30,520 Like yes, I feel like the the change that they made to Monstro is a little bit odd, but I 1419 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,840 feel like I'll I'll. 1420 01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:38,200 I'll dock later for that one. 1421 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,640 And then the same thing with Pleasure Island and everything. 1422 01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:48,560 I think they were able to keep the horror horror like elements of that fairly well, 1423 01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,800 too. 1424 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:56,960 Like when Lampwick was changing into a donkey like that was like I think they still managed 1425 01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:02,520 to keep like that that fear that I had as a as a kid. 1426 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:03,520 Like that. 1427 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:07,240 So it was that scene and then the Monstro scene that I felt like I had to like cover 1428 01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:12,640 Iris's eyes because I'm just like, no, this is a little much. 1429 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,400 Fair enough. 1430 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:21,880 So yeah, I think I think they kept a really solid flow. 1431 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:27,880 There is obviously some negligence in this on like Geppetto's part, which will be addressed 1432 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,440 when we get into like the writing. 1433 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:35,560 But I think overall, like the story was it did pretty well. 1434 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:40,020 It wasn't anything like extraordinary, but it was above average. 1435 01:40:40,020 --> 01:40:42,560 So that's why I'm sitting at an eighty six. 1436 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,200 So where are you at? 1437 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:53,880 Yeah, honestly, just because I didn't love every single change that they made and the 1438 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:59,600 stuff that they took out, I was not a fan of. 1439 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:04,200 So I'm sorry to say I'm in the 70s. 1440 01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:09,200 So I'll go with 73. 1441 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:15,560 Damn, dude, sorry, man. 1442 01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,160 All right. 1443 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,240 That's a lot lower than I thought you were going to go. 1444 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:26,840 I thought you were going to be in like the set, like the high 70s. 1445 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,520 No. 1446 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,200 All right. 1447 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:43,280 Moving on over to writing, I felt the dialogue was pretty, pretty like quick witted for a 1448 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,840 movie like this. 1449 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:53,080 And like I said, with the with the original, I think they just cut out a lot of fluff. 1450 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,640 Like the whole like the Honest John thing. 1451 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,920 I feel like scenes like that, like from what I remember, those scenes seem to like just 1452 01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:05,680 drag on and on and on and just like, OK, just get to the next thing. 1453 01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:11,440 And with this, I think they maybe took it a little too far the other direction and maybe 1454 01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:14,400 went a little too quick. 1455 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:19,840 But I still like really enjoyed the dialogue. 1456 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:26,600 And I think they were able to throw in some extra jokes that were pretty funny. 1457 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:33,720 Like I liked how Honest John was like talking to Pinocchio about how to spell his like his 1458 01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:38,280 name up in like the bright lights and then like realizing like his name is really hard 1459 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:45,260 to spell and then being like, like maybe we just change your name altogether. 1460 01:42:45,260 --> 01:42:50,560 And then like one of the jokes that they made was Chris Pine. 1461 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,360 And I love that joke. 1462 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,480 Yeah, I'll admit that one did make me chuckle. 1463 01:42:55,480 --> 01:43:00,840 Yeah, so I mean, they had some pretty decent. 1464 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:05,120 Additional dialogue and. 1465 01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,160 Honestly, I really liked the. 1466 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,120 The conversation with the blue fairy. 1467 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:15,320 I like that so much more than the original. 1468 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,560 I feel I like them both for different reasons. 1469 01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:20,960 Both are great. 1470 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:28,840 Speaking of that scene, though, I have a very big problem with this version compared to 1471 01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:35,320 the original because in the original, when the blue fairy first brings an Okio to life, 1472 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,520 literally he you know, like, you know, the strings go away. 1473 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,920 It's very simplistic and he's just like, oh my God, I can walk. 1474 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,400 I can talk. 1475 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,400 You know, it's great. 1476 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,400 Whereas in this one, literally. 1477 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,560 First of all, he still has the strings when he first comes to life, which that makes no 1478 01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,440 damn sense if you're bringing him the life. 1479 01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:54,440 Why would the strings still be there? 1480 01:43:54,440 --> 01:43:55,640 But whatever. 1481 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,440 Why would they disappear if he's becoming a real boy? 1482 01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:01,480 Shouldn't they just disappear automatically? 1483 01:44:01,480 --> 01:44:06,800 Well, she made them disappear later on. 1484 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,800 I don't know. 1485 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:13,160 OK, explain to me why fairy magic would have made the strings disappear. 1486 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:15,800 Because and why they would magic, dude, that's bullshit. 1487 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:20,160 You know it. 1488 01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:23,640 Anywho, I'm just kidding. 1489 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:28,760 No, so so the bit my biggest problem is that when Pinocchio first comes to life in this 1490 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:37,160 new one, he he is literally repeating everything that Jiminy or no, it's not only no, it's 1491 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:41,280 the blue fairy that he's literally repeating everything that she says. 1492 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:46,400 Like, you know, like, oh, he he she has to first put in like, oh, you know, actually, 1493 01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,160 he doesn't know how to fully speak. 1494 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:53,480 And so she actually has to put actually make that like official. 1495 01:44:53,480 --> 01:44:57,640 Whereas in the original, it automatically just happens. 1496 01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:02,040 And I don't know, I don't like in this one that she literally be like, oh, shit, I forgot 1497 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:03,040 something. 1498 01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,000 I forgot to actually make you be able to understand yourself and talk. 1499 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,000 Whereas in the original, it's just like, oh, yeah, I know what I'm frickin doing. 1500 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:10,000 Bam. 1501 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:15,960 I know how to, you know, you know, make full sentences. 1502 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,200 You see, that's exactly why I liked that stuff. 1503 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:33,360 Where it's just the way that I viewed it was he wasn't wishing like Geppetto wasn't wishing 1504 01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:37,400 on or wasn't wishing to a blue fairy. 1505 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:42,920 He was wishing upon a star and the star granted him the wish and the fairy just came down 1506 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:49,160 and like tidied up the magic. 1507 01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:52,200 Like that's how I viewed it. 1508 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:58,360 Like, unlike the like the original life where it just kind of like everything seemed to 1509 01:45:58,360 --> 01:45:59,600 work out just fine. 1510 01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:05,120 Like the strings go away and suddenly he knows how to talk and all this other bullshit. 1511 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:10,000 Like I know I expect that shit from a fairy. 1512 01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,400 That's the thing I know. 1513 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,440 And she gave him all of that. 1514 01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:17,640 It's just the frickin star magic is this the shady stuff. 1515 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:23,320 You see, in the original, I feel it's like very much showed that the blue fairy is the 1516 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,480 star he wishes upon. 1517 01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:35,480 Dude, I love when we get into discussions like this. 1518 01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:38,160 I do too. 1519 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:44,840 Yeah, that's how like that's my whole justification because I didn't like how it's like the fairy 1520 01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:50,120 was just like, oh, I can only make you so real. 1521 01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:54,720 And with her, it was just like, well, he was very specific on his wording. 1522 01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,760 So we kind of have to work around that. 1523 01:46:58,760 --> 01:46:59,920 I love that. 1524 01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:04,360 Like how I don't like people that like do something perfect. 1525 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:09,920 And so the fact that the blue fairy came down and was like correcting mistakes, like I really 1526 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:10,920 love that. 1527 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:16,400 I said I did not. 1528 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:17,960 That's really funny. 1529 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:26,320 Dude, that is super funny. 1530 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:29,800 I was kind of like how I think I can't get over is how you thought the strings would 1531 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,760 just disappear to. 1532 01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,680 Yeah, that's how I see it. 1533 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:40,120 The only reason that the string I feel the strings would have or should have disappeared 1534 01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:44,360 is if he actually turned into a real boy. 1535 01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:48,640 If he became 100 percent real, yes, the strings need to go away. 1536 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:52,380 But he was just becoming an alive puppet. 1537 01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:56,080 Why would the strings go away? 1538 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,240 Because Disney's got a Disney bitch. 1539 01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,080 Because Disney's got a Disney. 1540 01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:07,960 I'm going to see if I can find like the quote of Geppetto, like what his wish was. 1541 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,680 Oh, God. 1542 01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:14,680 Just to see if. 1543 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:18,840 All right, let's see. 1544 01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,520 Damn it. 1545 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,840 They don't have that line like how he wore it is. 1546 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:24,840 That's bullshit. 1547 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:32,520 I know they have like the starlight star bright thing, but that's straight up bullshit. 1548 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:37,600 Yeah, they don't have like the wish. 1549 01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:44,320 For some reason, I'm not remembering the line well in this one. 1550 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:51,000 Does the blue fairy tell Pinocchio that, oh, this is all the help that I can give you. 1551 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,800 It is up to you to become a real boy. 1552 01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,340 Does she say that? 1553 01:48:56,340 --> 01:48:57,340 Something like that. 1554 01:48:57,340 --> 01:48:58,340 Yes. 1555 01:48:58,340 --> 01:49:00,360 Like she said, OK, the star did some magic. 1556 01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:05,560 I did like some like I did some magic. 1557 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:13,040 Like your father has this wish upon you, but it is up to you to like to do your part. 1558 01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:21,960 Because I mean, I know she says like I'm pretty sure she says like the same thing in the original. 1559 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:27,080 But just I mean, how did you feel about the change in this one when Pinocchio is locked 1560 01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:40,520 up and in that bird cage and they use his nose to get the key to the lock in this one, 1561 01:49:40,520 --> 01:49:45,520 whereas in the original, literally and just this is why I like the original so much more 1562 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:52,440 because there is the that scene because they're not able to get the lock undone. 1563 01:49:52,440 --> 01:49:57,000 It leads to a really good bonding scene between Pinocchio and Jiminy before the blue fairy 1564 01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:02,160 shows up and of course, like saves them and says and then she says, oh, this is, you know, 1565 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,840 the last time that I can help you after this. 1566 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:05,840 You're on your own. 1567 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:10,160 It is up to you if you become a real boy. 1568 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,880 Were you OK that she did not show up in this new one in that scene and let them go? 1569 01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:22,920 I actually appreciated that she didn't because did she like fix his nose? 1570 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:23,920 In the original? 1571 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:24,920 Yes. 1572 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:25,920 She fixed. 1573 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:26,920 OK. 1574 01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:38,000 So I actually preferred that he was able to tell the truth and his nose was able to go 1575 01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:41,360 back to normal. 1576 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:49,080 I think it may because it just shows like. 1577 01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:52,000 Like a. 1578 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,640 Forgiveness aspect. 1579 01:50:55,640 --> 01:51:02,080 For me, like I always just viewed like, hey, like with the original Pinocchio, it's like, 1580 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:08,600 hey, someone needs to come down and like basically forgive you for yourself to make you like 1581 01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,920 to fix all the mistakes you've made with Pinocchio and his nose. 1582 01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:19,200 And I think with this, it's just him like coming out and being honest was able to help 1583 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:25,560 him fix his own problem. 1584 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:32,160 So it's just like, I'm not like too upset about it. 1585 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:36,920 Like I think I could have been a little bit more just like buttered about it. 1586 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,920 Like me. 1587 01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,920 Yeah. 1588 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,920 The. 1589 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:52,480 I liked how his nose stayed the same while it grew and didn't suddenly grow like. 1590 01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:55,680 A frickin tree branch on it. 1591 01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:56,680 What? 1592 01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:57,680 And like, you know, the net. 1593 01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,440 Dude, that's bullshit and you know it. 1594 01:52:00,440 --> 01:52:05,000 Yeah, it's bullshit, but I frickin love it. 1595 01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:13,960 Yeah, it's cool for cartoons and shit, but doesn't make sense in like real life. 1596 01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:20,840 And if you even try to argue like, oh, fairy magic created the birds, frickin screw you. 1597 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,880 I can't argue that. 1598 01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:25,920 Oh, shit. 1599 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,400 Yeah, that's that if they would have done that, that would have been horse shit. 1600 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:38,240 And you know, everyone would have been like, hey, where the birds come from. 1601 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,280 You know, was bullshit is frickin. 1602 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:48,520 Oh, my strong bully literally leaving the key in the exact same room. 1603 01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,680 Now I'm sure that he thought, oh, yeah, there's no way that anyone could get get to that. 1604 01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,520 But I'm sorry. 1605 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,520 Like I liked that in the original. 1606 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,520 No, he takes the frickin key with me. 1607 01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,160 He doesn't just hang it up on a hook in the exact same frickin room. 1608 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,240 I feel like that's a power move. 1609 01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:04,240 Well, think about it. 1610 01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:08,400 You got someone locked up in a cage and you are under the impression that there is no 1611 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:13,000 way for them to escape. 1612 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,080 Like fair. 1613 01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:19,640 It's just kind of like a slap in the face being like, check this out. 1614 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:27,280 Like I'm going to put the key right here because there's nothing you can do about it, bitch. 1615 01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:30,240 Like that's that's kind of how I felt about that. 1616 01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,840 OK, fair enough. 1617 01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:43,000 Like it just it wasn't like because he's I don't I didn't view it like strong bully being 1618 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:47,240 like stupid. 1619 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:52,160 I felt like he was doing or he did that more as like mocking. 1620 01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:55,160 OK, fair enough. 1621 01:53:55,160 --> 01:54:02,360 But yeah, I I dug it. 1622 01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:06,400 I think I dug it enough. 1623 01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:14,040 Like is that the is that the only time that Pinocchio lies in the movie, like even in 1624 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:15,040 the original? 1625 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,920 Or is that like the only time that his nose grows? 1626 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:19,920 Yes. 1627 01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,040 Yeah, that's the only time. 1628 01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:23,040 OK. 1629 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:24,040 Yeah. 1630 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:32,440 So I mean, those little problems, I mean, they didn't affect anything like too bad. 1631 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,720 At least writing wise. 1632 01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:40,000 But I mean, I'm I'm kind of on the average side with with writing. 1633 01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:45,360 I don't think that there was anything like too deep. 1634 01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:46,360 Or anything. 1635 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:51,960 I think I'm more like a seventy nine ish. 1636 01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:57,440 I think I'm like a strong seventy nine, maybe like a super soft 80. 1637 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:01,120 So I'll do like. 1638 01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:05,640 I'll go 80 just because I want to be nice. 1639 01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,640 And I know you're going to be harsh. 1640 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,840 So we're going to go a little blow story. 1641 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,680 We're going to go a seventy one. 1642 01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,680 Shit, dude. 1643 01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,680 Sorry, man. 1644 01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:26,400 Dude, I forget when you when you texted me when this first dropped, like, oh, I think 1645 01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:30,240 you're going to be you're going to be happy with Pinocchio literally after the credits 1646 01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:31,240 roll. 1647 01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:32,240 And I remember what you said. 1648 01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:38,200 I want I want to text you like right out of you like you fucking lied. 1649 01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:42,400 Dude, you were that displeased with it. 1650 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,160 I honestly really was. 1651 01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:48,280 After watching the original again. 1652 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:49,280 Yeah. 1653 01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:50,880 Shit, dude. 1654 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:55,960 Maybe I need to watch the original and not just like a cinema. 1655 01:55:55,960 --> 01:56:00,060 All right. 1656 01:56:00,060 --> 01:56:07,600 So getting into our acting, we got Joseph Gordon Levitt, who voiced Jiminy Cricket. 1657 01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:12,500 We got Tom Hanks, who played Geppetto. 1658 01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:19,040 We got Benjamin Evan Ainsworth, who voiced Pinocchio. 1659 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:23,680 And that's kind of it for main cast. 1660 01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:27,080 Is there anyone else that you would include? 1661 01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,440 Did you say Keegan-Michael Keel at all? 1662 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:30,440 No. 1663 01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:37,000 So OK, some main cast is those three for extras or like the significant extras. 1664 01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:46,720 I'll say Cynthia Erivo, who played the Blue Fairy. 1665 01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:51,280 Keegan-Michael Key, who voiced Honest John. 1666 01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:56,840 Giuseppe Battinson, who played Stromboli. 1667 01:56:56,840 --> 01:57:01,040 Kian LaMaya, who played Fabiana. 1668 01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:08,040 Jakita Talley, who voiced Sabina. 1669 01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:11,200 Lewin Lloyd, who played Lampwick. 1670 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:14,520 And then Luke Evans, who played the Coachman. 1671 01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:15,520 OK. 1672 01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:23,160 So like I said, those are the significant extras. 1673 01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:28,880 So you want to let's do top three. 1674 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,880 OK. 1675 01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:43,280 Number OK, I actually want to give an honorable mention because he would actually be my number 1676 01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,320 four is the kid that played Lampwick. 1677 01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,360 I thought he did a really great job. 1678 01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,320 Dude, he did an amazing job. 1679 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:55,040 I'm curious what else he's been in because he seems familiar, right? 1680 01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:58,040 Yeah, he really did. 1681 01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:04,040 Yeah, I have no idea what the hell he's been. 1682 01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:09,080 Like he's been in nothing that I've seen or nothing else that I've seen. 1683 01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,120 Oh, shit, really? 1684 01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:12,120 Yeah. 1685 01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,840 He only has nine acting credits. 1686 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:15,840 Really? 1687 01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:22,560 Yeah, and all of them are for like super small shit. 1688 01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,240 Or at least three or four. 1689 01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,000 Yeah, there's like a few shows. 1690 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,720 Or did you ever watch his Dark Materials? 1691 01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,680 No, did not. 1692 01:58:32,680 --> 01:58:35,440 OK, I didn't either. 1693 01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:41,440 He was in Judy and the Aeronauts. 1694 01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:43,240 Never heard of it. 1695 01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,880 Yeah, he hasn't been in anything else, though. 1696 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:47,880 So. 1697 01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:53,320 Anyway, he would be my number four. 1698 01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,840 Fair. 1699 01:58:55,840 --> 01:59:01,800 Number three, I would actually give to Kika Michael Key as Honest John. 1700 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,800 I freaking loved his performance. 1701 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,760 I wanted more of him as Honest John. 1702 01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:08,760 He was fantastic. 1703 01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,000 Dude, I'm the same way. 1704 01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:16,520 I freaking loved Kika Michael Key as Honest John. 1705 01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:21,320 Someone pointed out, too bad Gideon doesn't speak because that would have been really 1706 01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:25,240 cool if they could have gotten Jordan Peele to voice him. 1707 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,720 I would have just like credited him just for fun. 1708 01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:38,080 Oh, you know, all the facial expressions we got for Gideon, Jordan Peele acted all those 1709 01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:39,080 out. 1710 01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,080 Yeah, exactly. 1711 01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,600 Oh, shit. 1712 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:48,600 So yeah, that's assessment number three. 1713 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:54,720 Shit, who was the kid that played the voice of Pinocchio? 1714 01:59:54,720 --> 02:00:00,200 Benjamin Evan Ainsworth. 1715 02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:03,160 OK, yeah. 1716 02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:11,360 Number two, I feel he is pretty like as damn close as you can get to how the original voice 1717 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,600 actor sounded in the original. 1718 02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,600 Like I was amazed. 1719 02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:22,480 Dude, for real, like usually with remakes like this, it kind of takes me a second to get 1720 02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,280 used to like the new voice. 1721 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,520 Like this was not a problem. 1722 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:29,520 Yeah, right. 1723 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:30,520 Yeah. 1724 02:00:30,520 --> 02:00:31,520 Yeah, no. 1725 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:37,680 But from the moment he spoke, he sounded just like the original Pinocchio and I loved it. 1726 02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:45,800 And then number one, I would give to Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Jiminy Cricket. 1727 02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,160 Even though he's not as prominent as he is in this one. 1728 02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:53,920 I'm sorry, no, he's not as prominent in this one as he is in the original because I feel 1729 02:00:53,920 --> 02:01:00,360 that they have a lot more, him and Pinocchio have a lot more bonding in the original. 1730 02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,160 And I freaking hate that. 1731 02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:06,600 I mean, I'll point this out in music, but I hate that they took out the song, Give a 1732 02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:07,600 Little Whistle. 1733 02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:12,480 Oh my gosh, dude, I miss that song so much. 1734 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:13,480 Right. 1735 02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:14,480 It's so good. 1736 02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:15,480 I don't understand why they took it out. 1737 02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:20,200 But anyway, he I couldn't even tell it was Joseph Gordon-Levitt. 1738 02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:22,640 I didn't recognize his voice at all. 1739 02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:25,040 Same here. 1740 02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:26,680 That's how good he was. 1741 02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,780 But yeah, I love to miss Jiminy Cricket. 1742 02:01:29,780 --> 02:01:32,280 He was my favorite performance in the whole movie. 1743 02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,800 So yeah, that's my top three. 1744 02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:38,760 Completely fair. 1745 02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:47,160 If I'm giving an honorable mention, I'm going to I'm going to give it to Luke Evans. 1746 02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:55,520 Because he he played like a dude that was like creepy. 1747 02:01:55,520 --> 02:02:01,040 And I felt like it was it was something that he he he was supposed to pull off in Beauty 1748 02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:05,640 and the Beast when he played Gaston. 1749 02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:09,960 And but like I said in our breakdown of that. 1750 02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,360 Or did we break down Beauty and the Beast? 1751 02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:15,560 I don't think we did, actually. 1752 02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:16,560 No we did not. 1753 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:17,560 What? 1754 02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:21,000 I feel like I've brought it up on the show before. 1755 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,680 I feel like he was too likable in that movie. 1756 02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:28,560 Yeah, he really was. 1757 02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:36,320 And in this completely opposite, he was ridiculously creepy and just filled that role to perfection. 1758 02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:42,840 So major shout out to Luke Evans. 1759 02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:48,680 My number three might be surprising to you. 1760 02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:54,400 I'm actually going to give it to Cynthia Erivo, who played the Blue Fairy. 1761 02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,040 Hell yeah, dude. 1762 02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:57,640 She was so good. 1763 02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:58,640 That's a dude. 1764 02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:07,840 Oh, I like even though she wasn't in it too much, I felt she gave such like a good personality 1765 02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:09,760 to the Blue Fairy. 1766 02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:17,260 Like with with the original fairy, she just felt like so bland and just like super like 1767 02:03:17,260 --> 02:03:19,560 prissy and uptight. 1768 02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:20,560 Like not uptight. 1769 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:24,560 She's just like like perfect all the time. 1770 02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:26,960 Like just like that perfect little angel. 1771 02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:29,120 Like why are fairies are supposed to be? 1772 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:33,120 I know, but it just comes off as like fricking bitchy. 1773 02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:34,120 Damn. 1774 02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:35,120 OK. 1775 02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:37,060 I don't I don't like it. 1776 02:03:37,060 --> 02:03:41,200 Like I loved the personality that she gave the Blue Fairy. 1777 02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:46,720 Just like a little on the clumsy side, but just like still super elegant in the way that 1778 02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:51,980 she talked and presented herself and. 1779 02:03:51,980 --> 02:03:56,880 Almost like a sense of humor, like it felt like there could like she didn't give any 1780 02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:58,760 jokes, I don't think. 1781 02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:04,120 I'm not like remembering any jokes, but it felt like she had like a sense of humor behind 1782 02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,520 her or like she had the potential for one. 1783 02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:09,520 And I love that about her. 1784 02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:14,160 Like she made the Blue Fairy like so much more interesting than I feel like she's ever 1785 02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:17,640 been. 1786 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:23,920 And then like I'm pretty sure she's the one that's saying the. 1787 02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:28,280 The when you wish upon a star. 1788 02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:29,280 Yeah. 1789 02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,960 And like fricking amazing. 1790 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:37,080 Like I honestly and I wish that she would have done this in the original. 1791 02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:41,040 I love that she's seeing that as she's drifting away. 1792 02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:42,040 Yeah. 1793 02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:44,960 I wish that they did that in the original. 1794 02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:45,960 So good. 1795 02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:53,760 Yeah, so I freaking loved her, even though like her role was so small. 1796 02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:54,760 Yeah. 1797 02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:55,760 Hey camera. 1798 02:04:55,760 --> 02:05:02,520 Yeah, honestly, yeah, she was smaller role in here than she was in the original. 1799 02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:03,520 Yeah. 1800 02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:07,120 And it's mainly because she didn't show up in the Stromboli cart. 1801 02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:08,120 Yep, exactly. 1802 02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:11,920 Yeah, if they if if that would have happened, it would have been the exact same screen time. 1803 02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:16,600 But because of that, she does have shorter screen time here. 1804 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:19,320 Yeah. 1805 02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:25,240 My number two, I'm going to agree with you on it being Benjamin Evan Ainsworth, who voiced 1806 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:26,720 Pinocchio. 1807 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:32,000 Yes, I think he did a really good job with it. 1808 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:35,960 I kind of got the feeling from the trailers that he was going to be a little bit more 1809 02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:36,960 annoying. 1810 02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:40,600 But it did feel that way. 1811 02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:47,560 Yeah, but he he ended up pulling off the Pinocchio vibe super well. 1812 02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:50,520 So major props to him for that. 1813 02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:54,020 Like, I think he did an excellent job. 1814 02:05:54,020 --> 02:05:59,840 And then my number one I'm given to Joseph Gordon Levitt as well. 1815 02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:01,440 Yes. 1816 02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:05,160 His voice says Jiminy Cricket was damn near unrecognizable. 1817 02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:12,000 Like I had a hard time like like placing the voice until the very end. 1818 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,280 I was just like, gosh, I know that voice from somewhere. 1819 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,640 I can't figure out where, though. 1820 02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:24,560 But he matched the tone and cadence of the original Jiminy like did really frickin well. 1821 02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,480 Yeah, he really did. 1822 02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:31,440 Like, I think he went a little like higher pitched than the original. 1823 02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:34,880 But I mean, no complaints. 1824 02:06:34,880 --> 02:06:36,360 I don't know. 1825 02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,040 The original is pretty high pitched sometimes. 1826 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,040 Was he? 1827 02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:47,840 Well, I mean, I felt like his normal speaking tone was very, very like on the lower pitched 1828 02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:51,000 side, not like super deep. 1829 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:54,840 But I don't know about that. 1830 02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:55,840 It's kind of pretty high. 1831 02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:56,840 OK. 1832 02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:01,840 I'll have to go back and listen and like do a side by side comparison. 1833 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:02,840 You really should watch. 1834 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:07,120 I know you watched the Sinimasons video, but you really should watch the original Pinocchio 1835 02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:08,120 again. 1836 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:09,120 Yeah, I might. 1837 02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,600 I might give it another viewing tomorrow. 1838 02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:13,560 Hell yeah. 1839 02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:20,720 Anyway, so where are you sitting at with with acting? 1840 02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:26,320 You know, honestly, for how good they actually did it like casting this one. 1841 02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:31,920 I'm going to actually go an eighty five. 1842 02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,560 I actually was not too far away from you on that one. 1843 02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:38,120 I'm just a little higher at an eighty six. 1844 02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,120 OK, hell yeah. 1845 02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:47,080 All right, moving on over to character development, which I assume we're doing Pinocchio. 1846 02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:51,360 Yeah, this is where the movie's suffering. 1847 02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:52,360 For me at least. 1848 02:07:52,360 --> 02:07:53,360 Yeah. 1849 02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:59,640 Is it kind of like so with that, is it because of how you feel with the original of his character 1850 02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:02,040 development? 1851 02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:03,040 It's the. 1852 02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:07,000 I don't know. 1853 02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:14,720 It's just the like this the whole reasoning behind him being or becoming a real boy, like 1854 02:08:14,720 --> 02:08:17,260 the things that he needed to accomplish. 1855 02:08:17,260 --> 02:08:21,880 It felt like he was always that. 1856 02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:25,400 It didn't feel like he was like. 1857 02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:29,040 It's an issue that I've always had with Pinocchio in general. 1858 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:33,640 I don't feel like his growth was to. 1859 02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:37,960 One way or the other, like it didn't feel like he was heading down like a super dark 1860 02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:44,120 path, even when he was on Pleasure Island in either versions. 1861 02:08:44,120 --> 02:08:49,080 It just felt like he was very innocent and like taking in this like this knowledge and 1862 02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:53,160 realizing that just didn't sit well with him. 1863 02:08:53,160 --> 02:09:02,280 And then taking that and just like it just didn't feel like he went anywhere. 1864 02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:07,920 Like growth wise, it just feels like a very naive child learning these things and being 1865 02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:09,680 told, hey, this is right, this is wrong. 1866 02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:13,300 And then him being, oh, OK, and then just kind of going off of that. 1867 02:09:13,300 --> 02:09:19,040 The only like real thing that he did, I felt. 1868 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:21,240 Like learning the difference between right and wrong. 1869 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:27,360 I don't think he really did that super well, but it's just the bravery thing. 1870 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:29,440 Like showing that you need to be a brave boy. 1871 02:09:29,440 --> 02:09:36,440 And so he like saved his father or his family from Monstro. 1872 02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:40,100 And it's like the only brave thing that he did. 1873 02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:44,400 So it's just fair enough. 1874 02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:50,200 And it just it just didn't feel like it was like super like quite earned because it wasn't 1875 02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:51,200 a hit. 1876 02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:55,500 He wasn't the one like choosing to run away and like go do all this stuff. 1877 02:09:55,500 --> 02:10:02,360 He was pulled into it from outside sources and like people taking advantage of his naive 1878 02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:03,360 nature. 1879 02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:07,920 Yeah, it didn't feel like there was super good growth on his part. 1880 02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:14,000 And like I said, it's just an issue that I've had with Pinocchio or Disney's Pinocchio 1881 02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,280 as a whole. 1882 02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,120 Like it wasn't Pinocchio choosing to be bad. 1883 02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:22,960 It was just him getting drug into bad situations. 1884 02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:23,960 Fair enough. 1885 02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:24,960 Okay. 1886 02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:25,960 Okay. 1887 02:10:25,960 --> 02:10:30,240 Yeah, I can see where you're coming from with that. 1888 02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:33,480 So this one's like the easiest one for me. 1889 02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:38,400 I'm at like a 72. 1890 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:39,400 Okay. 1891 02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:43,400 Where are you at? 1892 02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:47,160 Honestly, I can agree with you for mostly. 1893 02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:55,400 I mean, I've always kind of liked the simplicity of the storyline of or not the storyline of 1894 02:10:55,400 --> 02:11:01,280 his character development of like, you know, like what he learns with right and wrong. 1895 02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:06,640 And I absolutely agree with where you're coming from with how like what really feels like 1896 02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:13,480 he even like gets to show at the end is just bravery. 1897 02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:19,160 You don't really feel like he gets to show a lot more of what a real boy is throughout 1898 02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:20,160 the rest of it. 1899 02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:26,680 So I can absolutely agree with you there. 1900 02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:30,200 You know, honestly, dude, I'm gonna match you. 1901 02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:31,200 Hell yeah. 1902 02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:32,740 All right. 1903 02:11:32,740 --> 02:11:38,720 Next up we got effects, which I think the big things were where the CGI characters and 1904 02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:43,800 Pinocchio, Honest John, Gideon and Monstro. 1905 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:44,800 Yes. 1906 02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:54,920 And then some of the other like the marionettes. 1907 02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:58,520 And I'm sure a lot of people would think that, oh, this is such like a little thing that 1908 02:11:58,520 --> 02:11:59,960 bugs you. 1909 02:11:59,960 --> 02:12:11,480 I would think that by 2022 I would be able to tell that Geppetto is fully clearly holding 1910 02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:14,360 Pinocchio when he picks him up. 1911 02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:20,960 But there are some shots that I can totally tell that Tom Hanks his hands aren't fully 1912 02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:24,000 attached to Pinocchio. 1913 02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:30,400 And that bugged the shit out of me. 1914 02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:35,360 Dude, unfortunately, I feel like this is where we fall short to. 1915 02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:36,360 Yeah. 1916 02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:37,360 Okay. 1917 02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:41,360 There were some things that looked really good. 1918 02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:50,160 And I think the entire budget was on Monstro eating Geppetto and Pinocchio. 1919 02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:56,640 And straight up, because even I don't know how you feel about this, but Honest John and 1920 02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:03,960 Gideon, I know that they're CGI animals, but they for some scenes didn't really fit that 1921 02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:05,680 well into it. 1922 02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:06,840 Yep. 1923 02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,800 I feel the CGI could have been a lot better on them. 1924 02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:10,800 Yeah. 1925 02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:14,760 This is I think this is the same issue that we had with Lady and the Tramp. 1926 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:15,760 Yeah. 1927 02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:19,080 Like, I'm sorry to say there's a especially for the effects. 1928 02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:21,280 There's a reason why this just went straight to Disney Plus. 1929 02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:23,640 It was on a theatrical release. 1930 02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:24,920 Yeah. 1931 02:13:24,920 --> 02:13:27,920 And I think my biggest issue was with Pinocchio. 1932 02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:31,360 Oh, yeah, dude. 1933 02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:32,360 His eyes. 1934 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:37,640 I think his eyes looked so bad. 1935 02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:42,220 All they had to do was throw in like a three dimensional effect with that. 1936 02:13:42,220 --> 02:13:45,360 Such a simple thing. 1937 02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:49,280 But no, his eyes were moving and they were paint. 1938 02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:55,040 Yeah, like even in the original, you could it clearly it looks as if his eyes are actually 1939 02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:56,040 alive. 1940 02:13:56,040 --> 02:13:57,040 Like they're real. 1941 02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,040 Well, that's not fair. 1942 02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:00,040 OK, fair. 1943 02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:06,720 That's not even close to a fair comparison because it's animated. 1944 02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,360 It's super easy to match the animation. 1945 02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:14,120 Like with this, they just had to add like a three dimensional effect. 1946 02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:19,360 So it seemed like Geppetto carved out the eyes. 1947 02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:21,720 Like that's all they had to freaking do. 1948 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:22,720 Yeah. 1949 02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:27,360 Or maybe even like I wonder how it would have looked if they would have thrown an outline 1950 02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:30,680 on his eyes. 1951 02:14:30,680 --> 02:14:34,040 I mean, it probably would have helped at least a little bit. 1952 02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:35,920 I think it would have. 1953 02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:47,440 I think it was just the the white of his eyes right next to the really light. 1954 02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:50,320 Color of the the pine. 1955 02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:59,640 Yeah, like that's one thing that even when I'm doing projects, I do not put like just 1956 02:14:59,640 --> 02:15:03,560 a straight white line on pine. 1957 02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:09,480 Like I always got to give it an outline with something like it needs an outline of some 1958 02:15:09,480 --> 02:15:12,480 sort. 1959 02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:23,000 Like I never just put like a flat, like a hard or not hard, a soft break between colors 1960 02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:24,000 like that. 1961 02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:27,040 I would have done an outline. 1962 02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:29,680 Makes sense. 1963 02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:43,160 I mean, even with that, like those complaints that we've had, Pinocchio didn't look great. 1964 02:15:43,160 --> 02:15:49,240 I'm wondering, do you feel it's like because they stuck so close to how he looks in the 1965 02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:53,400 original, like they freaking killed it for like how cool he literally looks like he just 1966 02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:56,120 stepped right out of the animated movie. 1967 02:15:56,120 --> 02:16:02,240 That one's tough because it's like I don't have any issues with his design. 1968 02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:04,280 It's just his movement. 1969 02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:12,800 Yeah, I will say one thing that like, I don't know if I like hate that he doesn't have it 1970 02:16:12,800 --> 02:16:16,920 in this one or if I don't like that he has it in the original, but in the original, he 1971 02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:20,920 actually does have like actual like hair like that moves. 1972 02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:24,000 It's not wooden hair like it is in this one. 1973 02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:26,720 I don't like that in the original. 1974 02:16:26,720 --> 02:16:30,600 Oh, you don't you like that it's just wooden hair? 1975 02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:34,080 Yeah, I think it made more sense. 1976 02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:35,080 Fair enough. 1977 02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:38,360 I think I can agree with you on that one. 1978 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:45,720 Yeah, but movement wise, like Pinocchio looked like shit. 1979 02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:46,720 Yeah. 1980 02:16:46,720 --> 02:16:51,040 Like, that's what took me the longest to get used to was how Pinocchio moved. 1981 02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:57,680 Yeah, once I got used to that, I was just like, yeah, whatever. 1982 02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:02,400 Even the freaking, the I got no strings to hold me down scene. 1983 02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:05,640 Yeah, that was that was kind of hard to watch. 1984 02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:09,160 Like I get that that's what it's kind of supposed to be, you know, like him dancing around as 1985 02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:13,160 a puppet, but just, yeah, I don't know even how he moved in that it was kind of hard to 1986 02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:14,160 watch. 1987 02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:16,640 He definitely moves a lot more fluid in the original. 1988 02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:20,120 Yeah, absolutely. 1989 02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:25,280 I will say though, what I appreciate is a lot of the puppets that they showcase in that 1990 02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:29,600 scene in this remake, they straight up took from the original. 1991 02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:32,520 And I absolutely loved that. 1992 02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:34,080 I was actually smiling. 1993 02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:35,640 Like, that's so cool. 1994 02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:40,120 They actually like freaking took the they just literally transferred it from animation 1995 02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:41,120 to live action. 1996 02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:42,280 And I'm freaking here for this. 1997 02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:43,280 I love this. 1998 02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:47,280 Yeah, it was super impressive. 1999 02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:58,400 I don't know other than I mean, with what we brought up, I'm not super high on the effects 2000 02:17:58,400 --> 02:17:59,400 either. 2001 02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:03,320 Yeah, I'm probably lower than character development. 2002 02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:07,200 Honestly, I'm at like a 70. 2003 02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,800 Hell, that's where I'm at too. 2004 02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:17,560 I was I was leaning more towards like a 71. 2005 02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:21,600 But I just can't quite put it at 71. 2006 02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:23,720 Yeah, no, dude, I feel you there. 2007 02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:25,080 I feel you there, man. 2008 02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:27,960 It was borderline distracting. 2009 02:18:27,960 --> 02:18:28,960 And that's not good. 2010 02:18:28,960 --> 02:18:29,960 Absolutely. 2011 02:18:29,960 --> 02:18:32,680 No, but it was consistent. 2012 02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:36,800 And that's yeah, that's kind of what what's keeping it up in the 70s. 2013 02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:37,800 Yeah. 2014 02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:39,760 Yeah, I can definitely agree with you. 2015 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:43,120 Like there weren't any moments where it felt like, oh, this looks really good. 2016 02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:44,720 And this looks really bad. 2017 02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:48,400 And it was all like, hey, this is pretty average. 2018 02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:49,400 Yeah. 2019 02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,680 All right. 2020 02:18:51,680 --> 02:18:58,200 Next up, we got music, which I'm fairly high with this one. 2021 02:18:58,200 --> 02:18:59,200 I am too. 2022 02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:04,840 I feel they honestly did do a good job of transitioning like the songs from the original 2023 02:19:04,840 --> 02:19:07,000 into this one. 2024 02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:13,480 And even like the the new song that Sabina sings, that was actually Sabina and shit, 2025 02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:14,480 what's her her? 2026 02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:15,480 I'm not sure. 2027 02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:16,480 Fabiana. 2028 02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:23,260 I actually thought that was a good addition to the soundtrack was a very good song. 2029 02:19:23,260 --> 02:19:26,000 The biggest problem I have, we already brought it up. 2030 02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:29,880 Why didn't they put give a little whistle in this movie? 2031 02:19:29,880 --> 02:19:31,920 I hate that so much. 2032 02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:33,400 That song is iconic. 2033 02:19:33,400 --> 02:19:38,240 Why do you not put that in Pinocchio? 2034 02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:42,520 I Got No Strings is more iconic, I'm sure. 2035 02:19:42,520 --> 02:19:46,280 But Give a Little Whistle is also very iconic. 2036 02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:50,000 Yeah, dude, like. 2037 02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:52,840 Yeah, I mean, it's it. 2038 02:19:52,840 --> 02:20:00,580 I can't I don't feel good talking about what it didn't have in this. 2039 02:20:00,580 --> 02:20:03,920 So that's that's kind of why I'm still super high. 2040 02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:11,920 I think personally, just because that they they missed that I'd be at like a seven. 2041 02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:16,800 But with the songs that they did have. 2042 02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:21,020 I think I'm at a nine just because of how well the. 2043 02:20:21,020 --> 02:20:24,320 They were able to execute them. 2044 02:20:24,320 --> 02:20:25,880 I'm not that high. 2045 02:20:25,880 --> 02:20:28,840 I'm at an eight. 2046 02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:29,840 That's fair. 2047 02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:32,000 You can make the argument either way. 2048 02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:39,240 It's just I've had I have no strings stuck in my head like all week. 2049 02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:42,920 So I mean, I completely get that. 2050 02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:44,360 Yeah. 2051 02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:47,840 And since we round down, that'll be at an eight. 2052 02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:48,840 I'm sorry, man. 2053 02:20:48,840 --> 02:20:50,640 No, you're you're you're fine. 2054 02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:52,120 All right. 2055 02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:54,060 Next up, we got costumes. 2056 02:20:54,060 --> 02:20:59,780 So with this one, it's kind of going to be a mix of costumes and character design. 2057 02:20:59,780 --> 02:21:03,360 Since Pinocchio is. 2058 02:21:03,360 --> 02:21:04,360 CGI character. 2059 02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:09,360 Yeah, I feel this is a huge part where the movie shined. 2060 02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:16,320 Because a lot like honestly, I mean, shocker, Tom Hanks is Geppetto's get up. 2061 02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:20,160 Looked just like he had walked off, walked out of the animated film, but I feel that's 2062 02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:22,760 not that hard to get. 2063 02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:24,340 Get right. 2064 02:21:24,340 --> 02:21:25,340 Stromboli. 2065 02:21:25,340 --> 02:21:26,920 Holy shit. 2066 02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:27,920 That looks fantastic. 2067 02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:31,120 Dude, that looked great. 2068 02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:34,520 So fucking good. 2069 02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:35,520 And I really don't. 2070 02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:36,520 Honest John's look. 2071 02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:39,520 Dude, yeah, same here. 2072 02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:45,400 Literally, I think they definitely darkened his colors in this one. 2073 02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:48,280 In the original, they're definitely a lot more brighter, but I feel it makes a lot more 2074 02:21:48,280 --> 02:21:53,160 sense to have them the colors dimmed down a little bit in this one. 2075 02:21:53,160 --> 02:21:55,280 And same thing with Gideon. 2076 02:21:55,280 --> 02:22:00,400 His colors were definitely a lot more vibrant in the original, but it made sense why they 2077 02:22:00,400 --> 02:22:02,640 downgraded the color in this one. 2078 02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:03,640 Yeah. 2079 02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:07,880 I mean, overall, just they just killed it. 2080 02:22:07,880 --> 02:22:14,960 Yeah, like even the coachman, even though like honestly, honestly, I'm sorry, he looks 2081 02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:17,360 like a frickin like three musketeer. 2082 02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:18,360 I don't know why. 2083 02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:20,560 That's what Luke Evans looks like to me. 2084 02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:24,080 But he looked good still. 2085 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:25,080 He did. 2086 02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:28,640 Like honestly, what he wore is what the coachman wore in the original. 2087 02:22:28,640 --> 02:22:35,360 Yes, his red, his red, his red coat was more vibrant, but it makes sense why it wasn't 2088 02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:40,440 exactly super vibrant in this one because, you know, for what Roberts and Mechis was 2089 02:22:40,440 --> 02:22:41,440 going for. 2090 02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:48,760 Dude, total side note, the song that they that the coachman did was awesome. 2091 02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:54,840 Yeah, that that was that was also a good new song as well. 2092 02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:55,840 Yeah. 2093 02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:59,120 But anyway, getting back into costumes. 2094 02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:04,640 Yeah, everyone looked really frickin good. 2095 02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:14,000 So it's hard for me to give too low of a score just because of how well everyone looked, 2096 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,840 like especially Pinocchio. 2097 02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,200 I mean, you can't get much more accurate than that. 2098 02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:20,960 Dude, straight up. 2099 02:23:20,960 --> 02:23:26,680 I'm at a nine, honestly. 2100 02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:29,680 Honestly I was at a ten. 2101 02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:33,200 I'm no, I'm telling you over. 2102 02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:36,200 No, you're fine. 2103 02:23:36,200 --> 02:23:37,200 That's how we do this. 2104 02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:42,640 Like if if we have it, it's just we round down. 2105 02:23:42,640 --> 02:23:47,040 So I totally get where you're coming from with with that score. 2106 02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:48,040 It's still high. 2107 02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,800 It's like it's not like it's a six or anything. 2108 02:23:50,800 --> 02:23:52,600 It's still not enough. 2109 02:23:52,600 --> 02:23:54,720 Yeah, fair enough. 2110 02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:55,720 Yeah. 2111 02:23:55,720 --> 02:23:56,720 All right. 2112 02:23:56,720 --> 02:24:01,960 So next up, we got our own personal scores. 2113 02:24:01,960 --> 02:24:07,200 So I want to hear your thoughts last. 2114 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:09,480 So I'll start off. 2115 02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:11,480 OK. 2116 02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:18,840 I really liked this interpretation of Pinocchio. 2117 02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:23,960 Pinocchio has never been my favorite Disney movie. 2118 02:24:23,960 --> 02:24:30,920 And like I said, it's just mainly because of his character development or lack thereof. 2119 02:24:30,920 --> 02:24:36,120 But I liked what they were able to do with with this new version and all of like the 2120 02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:39,840 the fun additions that they were able to make. 2121 02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:43,960 One thing that I really appreciated and we didn't really bring up and it's mainly because 2122 02:24:43,960 --> 02:24:48,280 I didn't feel like there was a place to bring it up. 2123 02:24:48,280 --> 02:24:55,080 I really liked the clock cameos that we got or the Easter eggs. 2124 02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:58,640 Dude, that was so freaking cool. 2125 02:24:58,640 --> 02:24:59,640 Yeah. 2126 02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:01,240 Oh my gosh. 2127 02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:03,280 Thank you for bringing that shit up. 2128 02:25:03,280 --> 02:25:04,280 Yeah. 2129 02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:11,400 For I mean, for those of you that haven't seen Pinocchio or this or this movie, when 2130 02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:18,040 the clock start to go off on Geppetto's wall, it's just a bunch of different Disney movies 2131 02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:23,800 like the first one that you see is Woody and Bullseye coming out of a cuckoo clock. 2132 02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:28,320 And I'm like, dude, this is this is perfect. 2133 02:25:28,320 --> 02:25:34,800 I did love that they they did do like subtle nods to the original, though, with still having 2134 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:39,280 the mom spanking the kid over her lap. 2135 02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:41,760 That was still a clock in this one. 2136 02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:44,080 Yeah, that was that was good. 2137 02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:46,120 And then the one where they're like drinking. 2138 02:25:46,120 --> 02:25:48,840 Yeah, the guy coming out of the bar. 2139 02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:49,840 Yeah. 2140 02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,240 I mean, they have all like the good clocks. 2141 02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:57,240 It's just like instead of putting just a bunch of generic clocks, they put a bunch of Disney 2142 02:25:57,240 --> 02:25:58,240 themed clocks. 2143 02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:00,320 Yeah, I love that. 2144 02:26:00,320 --> 02:26:01,320 I did, too. 2145 02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:05,360 It was some awesome Easter eggs right there. 2146 02:26:05,360 --> 02:26:07,440 Yeah, so good. 2147 02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:10,840 So freaking good. 2148 02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:16,700 So it was able it was stuff like that that was able to keep me interested and the addition 2149 02:26:16,700 --> 02:26:19,840 of like of some good characters like Fabiana. 2150 02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:27,800 Like I didn't think I was going to like Fabiana as much as I ended up loving her. 2151 02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:28,800 Like near the end. 2152 02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:32,000 So it's a good time all around. 2153 02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:39,280 And like I said, I think if if you guys view like the original Pinocchio as like too long 2154 02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:45,480 or having just too much like too much stuff that you just don't want to see, I think this 2155 02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:54,160 movie does a pretty decent job at cutting it down to its essentials. 2156 02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:57,360 I don't know if you could say if it's too long, because this one is longer than that 2157 02:26:57,360 --> 02:26:58,360 one. 2158 02:26:58,360 --> 02:26:59,640 Is it really? 2159 02:26:59,640 --> 02:27:02,840 Yeah, this one's an hour and 50 minutes. 2160 02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:05,040 The original is an hour and 30. 2161 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:06,040 Huh. 2162 02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:07,040 Sorry. 2163 02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:13,600 I don't mean to chime in with no, that's that's interesting as hell because it. 2164 02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:16,320 Gosh, I need to read what this one's almost. 2165 02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:21,520 I'm rewatching this movie tomorrow and I will report back next week. 2166 02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:26,640 You need to rewatch this and then you also need to watch the original and compare them. 2167 02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:27,640 Yeah. 2168 02:27:27,640 --> 02:27:30,140 So I'll be doing that. 2169 02:27:30,140 --> 02:27:37,360 But my so get into my personal score, I think I'm sitting. 2170 02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:40,880 I think I'm sitting there like a 78. 2171 02:27:40,880 --> 02:27:42,160 Like I had a good time. 2172 02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:47,360 It's just I had the issues that I have with the original Pinocchio. 2173 02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:54,340 And like still like the issues are the same. 2174 02:27:54,340 --> 02:27:56,200 Everything's the same, but this was a lot more fun. 2175 02:27:56,200 --> 02:28:01,600 Like personally, I put the original Pinocchio at least right now. 2176 02:28:01,600 --> 02:28:03,600 I put it lower. 2177 02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:05,600 Oh, you. 2178 02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:06,600 Okay. 2179 02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:10,960 Well, next week it just might be the all bro podcast. 2180 02:28:10,960 --> 02:28:18,000 I'm just going to warn you guys right now because Rose is going to murder me. 2181 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:21,880 Oh, shit. 2182 02:28:21,880 --> 02:28:28,080 So yeah, I was I did not love this remake. 2183 02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:32,200 There were just changes that I just did not disagree. 2184 02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:34,240 I did not agree with. 2185 02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:40,240 I will admit a lot of the stuff that Roberts of Micas did decide to add, I did like like 2186 02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:43,720 Fabiana and Sabina. 2187 02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:45,400 That was actually a really good addition. 2188 02:28:45,400 --> 02:28:48,760 I really liked those characters. 2189 02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:51,840 But just the whole like changing the ending. 2190 02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:58,320 I mean, I know we talked about this, but I still like I don't like that he straight up 2191 02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:04,520 did a 360 on the ending, considering that in this one, it's a fake out that Geppetto 2192 02:29:04,520 --> 02:29:07,600 dies, whereas in the original, it's a fake out that Pinocchio dies. 2193 02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:12,060 I think it's a lot more heroic of the way that they pull it off in the original that 2194 02:29:12,060 --> 02:29:15,920 Pinocchio sacrifices himself to save his father. 2195 02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:19,320 I just like that a lot better. 2196 02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:23,200 And even though Caleb said like he doesn't love the original Pinocchio, it's not his 2197 02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:24,200 favorite. 2198 02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:28,960 Like I said before, Pinocchio is it's it's my favorite classic Disney film. 2199 02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:30,600 I freaking love Pinocchio. 2200 02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:35,000 I literally had that movie on repeat as a kid on VHS. 2201 02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:41,160 I'm sure I pissed my grandmother off with that. 2202 02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:46,220 But so as Disney remakes go, it's not awful. 2203 02:29:46,220 --> 02:29:50,760 It's probably one of I mean, I know a lot of people have said it's the worst, but honestly, 2204 02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:56,560 it might actually be one of the better ones for actually changing stuff compared to like 2205 02:29:56,560 --> 02:29:59,480 others like The Lion King, where it literally changes nothing. 2206 02:29:59,480 --> 02:30:01,020 It's beat by beat. 2207 02:30:01,020 --> 02:30:06,640 But I think because this is my favorite classic Disney film, I wanted it beat by beat. 2208 02:30:06,640 --> 02:30:09,600 I'm sorry to say. 2209 02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:11,640 And so I was disappointed. 2210 02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,160 I was a little disappointed. 2211 02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:22,920 So I'm going to go a 72. 2212 02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:25,560 Fair. 2213 02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:28,840 You thought I was going to be in the 60s, didn't you? 2214 02:30:28,840 --> 02:30:32,080 I'll be 100% real. 2215 02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:33,520 Yeah. 2216 02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:38,200 I didn't hate it that much because it's still Pinocchio. 2217 02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:43,520 It still gets the message across that the original does. 2218 02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:48,160 I did not love all of the changes that Robert Zemeckis decided to make. 2219 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:53,200 I feel it takes away what makes the original so special, at least to me. 2220 02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:54,200 Right. 2221 02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:58,000 No, I definitely get you there. 2222 02:30:58,000 --> 02:30:59,400 All right. 2223 02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:01,880 Well, that wraps up this breakdown. 2224 02:31:01,880 --> 02:31:10,840 So going through these categories, story leading off at a 79.5, writing coming in a little 2225 02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:21,080 bit lower, sitting at a 75.5, acting, bringing this movie up to an 85.5, character development 2226 02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:29,320 sitting at a solid 72, effects sitting at a solid 70, music sitting at an 8, costumes 2227 02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:34,240 sitting at a 9, and then our personal score came to a 75. 2228 02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:41,480 So with all of those numbers, the final Albrows letter grade for Pinocchio 2022 has come to 2229 02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:45,760 a C+. 2230 02:31:45,760 --> 02:31:49,800 Okay. 2231 02:31:49,800 --> 02:31:50,800 You know what? 2232 02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:51,800 I'll take that. 2233 02:31:51,800 --> 02:31:52,800 Yeah. 2234 02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:55,240 It's a pretty solid C+. 2235 02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:59,520 Activity sitting at a 79.06%. 2236 02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:00,520 Okay. 2237 02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:01,520 Yeah. 2238 02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:11,520 So comparing this to other C++ movies, that puts it above Jexy, which was at a 79. 2239 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:18,400 That puts it above Army of the Dead, which was at a 78.87. 2240 02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:23,600 It is above The New Mutants, which is at a 78.77. 2241 02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:30,880 It is also above Godzilla versus Kong, which is at a 78.56. 2242 02:32:30,880 --> 02:32:36,600 And then finally it is above Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny, which is at a 78.28. 2243 02:32:36,600 --> 02:32:42,920 Let's hope Vic doesn't find that out. 2244 02:32:42,920 --> 02:32:54,440 Going the opposite direction, Pinocchio ended up beneath Uncharted, which is at a 79.12. 2245 02:32:54,440 --> 02:33:01,080 It is also below I Want You Back, which is at a 79.25. 2246 02:33:01,080 --> 02:33:10,280 It is below the 2021 Mortal Kombat, which is at a 79.49. 2247 02:33:10,280 --> 02:33:18,560 It is below Scott Pilgrim versus the World, which is at a 79.58, unfortunately. 2248 02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:21,560 Thanks, Brooker. 2249 02:33:21,560 --> 02:33:26,600 Every single time. 2250 02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:27,600 That's just our new thing. 2251 02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:35,600 Anytime someone brings up Scott Pilgrim and how low it is, we're just, thanks, Brooker. 2252 02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:47,080 And then, funny enough, it is below the Aladdin remake, which is at a 79.62%. 2253 02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:52,840 You know, I can absolutely agree with that because I liked Aladdin more than this. 2254 02:33:52,840 --> 02:33:56,080 Yeah, same here. 2255 02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:58,040 And that's not saying a lot. 2256 02:33:58,040 --> 02:34:03,840 I don't know, to me, Aladdin is one of the better Disney live action remakes. 2257 02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:06,600 I had a really good time with Aladdin. 2258 02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:07,600 Yeah. 2259 02:34:07,600 --> 02:34:11,840 And you guys can listen to that episode if you want to go back and listen. 2260 02:34:11,840 --> 02:34:15,520 I was like, for Chibi and the roster. 2261 02:34:15,520 --> 02:34:17,720 It was a long time ago. 2262 02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:20,120 God damn. 2263 02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:23,120 Pre-COVID era. 2264 02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:24,440 Yeah. 2265 02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:32,880 But yeah, so that is where this movie ranks. 2266 02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:37,880 So with that, if you liked this episode, want to hear more of our stuff, be sure to follow 2267 02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:40,680 and subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 2268 02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:51,720 We are basically on every, if not all, podcast hosting platforms. 2269 02:34:51,720 --> 02:34:53,880 Be sure to follow us on social media as well. 2270 02:34:53,880 --> 02:35:01,360 We are on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok, all at the All Bros. 2271 02:35:01,360 --> 02:35:06,360 And you guys can hit us up if you have episode ideas or want to join us for an episode. 2272 02:35:06,360 --> 02:35:10,240 We would love to have anyone on. 2273 02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:12,200 Yeah. 2274 02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:19,640 Or you can check out our website, which is tinyurl.com forward slash the All Bros, where 2275 02:35:19,640 --> 02:35:24,360 you can find links to everything that we do. 2276 02:35:24,360 --> 02:35:29,240 And I feel like I'm missing something. 2277 02:35:29,240 --> 02:35:35,240 Oh, or you can email us at theallbroschannel.gmail.com. 2278 02:35:35,240 --> 02:35:45,420 So next week, you guys can look forward to us breaking down The Woman King. 2279 02:35:45,420 --> 02:35:48,500 This movie looks incredible. 2280 02:35:48,500 --> 02:35:54,040 If you have not seen it, definitely go check it out. 2281 02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:57,080 So yeah, we'll be talking about that next week. 2282 02:35:57,080 --> 02:36:00,040 And until then, this has been the All Bros Podcast. 2283 02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:01,480 I'm Caleb. 2284 02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:02,480 And I'm Jonathan. 2285 02:36:02,480 --> 02:36:04,800 And we'll catch you guys next week. 2286 02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:05,800 Deuces. 2287 02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:06,800 Ha ha. 2288 02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:11,360 See you all real soon. 2289 02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:13,360 That's so much better than Herbert. 2290 02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:27,680 Yes.