What's up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out
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This week on the podcast we'll be talking about a big release in 4k spotlight that maybe
if I watch it a second time I might change my mind on.
I mean I know I could have done that on Disney Plus but I still haven't done that yet.
And then for through the wall we got a video game that we want to talk about or mostly
that Caleb wants to talk about.
It's an interesting one to say the least.
It's like I'm not the game is I'm not excited for as much as I am like it's actually we'll
talk about we'll get into it.
Alright and then after that we'll be moving on to our headliner which sorry change of
plans with that.
So we were going to do the woman king but now we'll be hocus pocus in preparation for
the sequel.
So yeah.
Caleb what do you say we get started?
I say let's do it.
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Alright so first up 4k spotlight.
This week coming out will be Thor Love and Thunder.
So if you guys haven't picked or picked up wow it's not even out yet Jonathan you dumb
mouse.
If you guys haven't been able to watch it yet or if you haven't watched it on Disney
Plus yet here's your chance to own it on 4k.
So we'll be getting just a regular blu-ray and 4k release of course along with a Best
Buy exclusive seal book shocker which of course I already pre-ordered because it doesn't matter
even if I like hate a Marvel movie which I haven't hated one yet.
Yeah I was going to say why the hell are you bringing that up this movie wasn't like horrible.
No it's not Thor Dark World.
It's not Thor Dark World.
True.
But I own that on 4k steelbook too because I'm a completionist I have to have all the
MCU movies on 4k steelbook.
But yeah so I of course have already pre-ordered this.
It's awesome because I love the cover art actually because it's I think this was the
teaser poster when it's like Thor and his like sleeveless like red jacket holding Stormbreaker
and he's like freaking like on to like standing on top of a cliff and like holding Stormbreaker
to the sky and just there's lightning all around.
Do you remember that teaser poster at all?
Yes I'm looking at it right now and it is freaking sick.
Right I've it's a great steelbook.
I have a great choice of cover art for the steelbook.
So I mean honestly I doubt you guys will even have to pre-order this.
Usually Marvel steelbooks they always have like a shit ton store the first day.
I don't know it might sell out within the first day but I think as long as you go out
if you want it and get it the first like at least the first week you should be good to
go you shouldn't have any problems.
With other exclusives so yeah I'm pretty sure that Target is just done with their digipacks
because I haven't seen one since was it Lightyear or was it the last Marvel movie?
I can't remember.
Anyway so yeah no Target exclusive but we are getting another Disney movie club exclusive
it's just an exclusive slipcover and for the longest time it used to be that this was the
only way that you could get a slipcover on a blu-ray is if you got it through the Disney
movie club but it seems that might change after Thor Love and Thunder because the regular
blu-ray release of this from the looks of it does come with a slipcover so it's really
weird but at least the slipcover with this one is definitely different from the regular
version because the regular version is just the poster whereas the Disney movie club one
is literally it's a I've never seen this poster so it's a brand new release to me but it looks
really cool so if you guys want to go about that you can get that from the Disney movie
club the Disney movie club is like so weird because like I signed up for it and it's pretty
cool but so you're shipped how many is it I think it's four free movies you choose four
movies for no I think it's like for a dollar but then you have two years to purchase it's
either four or five like titles from them whether it be their feature titles or just
titles they have on their website and like usually that they range from like 25 to 30
bucks that's not bad yeah it's not I mean and they're pretty cool additional in the
span of a year or two years two years yeah that's nothing yeah right yeah it's pretty
and like honestly because I picked up even though I got the steelbook I also got the
exclusive lightyear cover just because that was the only way that you actually get a slipcover
for that one but yeah I mean if you don't what's the word get or if you don't purchase
the five movies within two years you are charged for all of the movies that you got for a dollar
so that would rack up pretty fast considering those are about all about like 25 bucks but
I mean some of the movies that are on there it's your only way to get them on blu-ray
like I was able to get holes and a goofy movie and that's the only place that you can find
those movies on blu-ray damn yeah that's not a horrible deal like when you know I like
it so far yeah and like honestly after you do those five I can't remember if it's four
or five but anyway after you've done that you've completed your what you need to do
there's no membership fee you're just free to use it as much as you want nice so I think
it's pretty cool that sounds really cool so and with every seems like with almost every
like movie club exclusive that you get you get like a free lithograph so like yeah because
I just barely got lightyear and it comes with a lithograph of him like shooting his laser
towards Zerg that is cool yeah it's pretty cool I'm yeah I'm pretty happy so far I mean
it's not like a huge thing but it's just like one of those like I appreciate it yeah lithographs
are always cool um then one more exclusive damn you rose oh one more Thor love and thunder
yeah yeah yeah oh so for love and thunder so I was doing what the hell did I do I was
gonna say like you son of a bitch like I asked you nevermind disregard that okay so final
exclusive for four love and thunder and it's a Walmart exclusive and this is just what
Walmart's been doing and it's just weird what the hell I didn't click on that I freaking
clicked on the picture of the the exclusive and apparently like it swooped like pushed
it down really fast and so it made me click on a freaking eBay ad for a freaking Stonehenge
thing the hell am I gonna do with that shit good hell anyway the Walmart exclusive for
love and thunder comes with a limited edition enamel pen okay hammer you can give this shit
all you want I will say this what I really appreciate about that is that pin matches
almost exactly to the pins that I got when I bought Marvel's Avengers okay fair and so
it feels like I could add that to my collection of pins and feel like I have like a Jane Foster
Thor pin am I going to know but I was gonna say is Kayla about to buy a physical media
no I feel like cool media I mean if I wanted it that bad I think I'd go on eBay and try
and find someone selling just the freaking knew it now you asshole I know well it's just
like I'm not a big fan of this artwork like it's different it's different like I'll give
them that but not my favorite did you see the Disney movie club one is that the one
with like the lightning trip let me double check I think it is wait it's the what hold
on I'm googling it right now is it the one where they're standing in front of the planet
yeah and you got Gore in the background I don't hate it I don't hate it either that
one's like I wish Jane was in a different pose though yeah it's an odd pose I think
that's what ruins it for me like Thor Valkyrie and choreographed fine but yeah Jane hers
just is kind of weird I think they should have had them standing like side by side yes
that would have been perfect like Thor holding Stormbreaker on the left and then Jane holding
Mjolnir on the right like in the exact same pose just kind of badass why yeah that would
have been awesome that would have been super cool and then like and then throw like the
I would have like shrunk down like I would scoot Thor over a little bit like in the exact
same pose scoot Valkyrie over a little bit scoot Korg over just a hair so we could get
that exact same pose with with Jane and then Korg in the like more above the planet instead
of off to the side yeah I feel that would have made a lot more sense but it's not awful
no it's it's not awful I mean it's decent for what it is yeah agreed yeah that's it
for Thor Love and Thunder so comes out tomorrow for you know considering we released this
podcast on Mondays so yeah if you guys want to pick up Thor Love and Thunder be sure to
go pick her up a copy hell yeah moving on to our through the wall segment Caleb I believe
there's an Iron Man video game you want to talk about yes there is we do not have any
information on this game so that's just a heads up there it is an Iron Man game and
is being released by motive studios now this is where they kind of got me like I like it's
an interesting one because it's like I don't quite know I've never done like the campaign
on either of these games I've played the multiplayer of them I've never done the campaign so I
have no idea how good or not good their campaigns are but the two games that they have released
so far is Star Wars Battlefront 2 and Star Wars squadrons yeah I didn't play either I
kind of assumed you I'm a little surprised you haven't played Battlefront but not that
surprised okay okay we talked like the Battlefront that came out when we were kids or like the
newer Battlefront the newer Battlefront okay yeah so I didn't play either you didn't matter
oh shit do the only Star Wars games I played growing up were Lego Star Wars and then Episode
3 yeah so so motive it kind of falls under the EA like window okay technically so they
didn't they didn't work on Jedi Fallen Order which both of us know Jedi Fallen Order is
a kick-ass game oh yeah great Star Wars game Star Wars squadrons and Battlefront they are
very fun multiplayer games like extremely fun I don't know how the like I said I don't
know how the campaigns are on those but that does bring up an interesting question about
this Iron Man game is this going to be a solely single-player campaign game or they going
to somehow manipulate this into a multiplayer game I mean would we assume that the second
player would be war machine that's what I don't know it's because like the thing that's
got me worried about this and the reason that I wanted to talk about this is because Star
Wars Battlefront and Star Wars squadrons are famously multiplayer and they do have another
game that's supposedly going to be coming out in 2023 but it's a remake so it's not
like their original game okay so that's it's it's got me a little worried because it's
like how would have what would a multiplayer Iron Man look like I mean as long as it's
better than Iron Man 2 the video game did you enjoy the first Iron Man game because
I didn't it was it was hit and miss for me dude I remember difficult I found it so was
a bitch oh dude me and my cousin actually played a lot of it together and he mostly
did all the difficult parts but so I said higher game yeah basically I think I did like
the first two levels the one where you escape the cave and then the one where you're testing
out mark two but yeah I think after we got he got mark three he just took over and I
just watched funny story about that though that came is so I think it was like the week
that it went it came it released and my grandma took me to go buy it from GameStop and I'm
not lying this the freaking employee there is just like are you sure you want to buy
this kid have you seen the reviews on this I heard it sucked like yeah I still want to
buy iron man the game you should have listened to him I should have but I was a kid that
wanted to be Iron Man okay yeah unfortunately they did not give us that no they didn't so
it's got me like I said squadrons and battlefront two are two famously multiplayer games so
it's like what I'm afraid that they're going to do is turn it into like a build your own
iron man game where you like compete against other iron men and I'm like yeah that yeah
just kind of sounds dumb I mean don't like building your own suit iron man suit that
does sound kind of cool I just don't I just feel like I would probably F it up and it
would just look like shit yeah that's that's how I feel too it's like I don't know how
I feel about it like the graphics on battlefront and squadrons they they are incredible I've
played squadrons before I've played both of these before the the graphics and the like
everything that they're able to pull off in that way look fantastic it's just gameplay
is super difficult for at least for me maybe I'm just super shitty at like first person
shooters I am too now or third person shooters I guess and then same thing with like flying
like anything in a vehicle I really suck at but everyone says like hey if you if you like
if you're a decent driver but you like suck at games that require driving or maneuvering
or whatever you should try getting joysticks and I'm just like I don't know I mean do awful
admit when it came to freaking flying as Iron Man and Marvel's Avengers I sucked at that
too yeah wasn't great it wasn't great in the in the game too so it's it's that's what's
got me worried Iron Man hasn't had a good game I mean maybe you never know maybe it
will be a tale like insomniac spider-man but I mean spider-man is insomniac spider-man
is fantastic but even if that sucked we still had spider-man 2 the video game so yeah
so it's it's got me concerned I wish that someone would freaking nut up and release
an Ant-Man game dude like seriously though straight up I was recently playing a game
with my wife it's called it takes two and it's this you play as this couple that are
going through like a divorce and you get magically transported into your child's dolls and it's
cool because you have to like work collaboratively to get through the levels didn't you like
show me a teaser of that when I was I might have I think you did yeah but it's it's super
cool like one of the like the first level that you do one of the like the power-ups
that you get is as the husband you get some nails that like that you can throw into stuff
and like retrieve like you whistle and then they come back to you and then the wife gets
a hammer and then the the hammer can be used to swing on the nails so you kind of have
to throw the nails into the wall so you can like create a ladder to swing up and get to
higher places super cool ass right super cool we had we just completed this space level
and she had like anti-gravity boots and my character could grow and shrink and it was
it made me want an Ant-Man game so bad because one of the fair enough and it was like one
of the things that you had to do she had to use her anti-gravity boots to get to a lever
on top of a door and it like changes her gravity so she was able to like walk up the wall onto
the ceiling jump up grab this door lift it up just a little bit and I had to shrink down
to run through it but when so when it shrunk me down it like shrinks my my point of view
so everything around me grows giant cool and it takes me forever to walk across to shit
so it's like I don't want to be little very long and then I can grow big and so one of
the things that was really cool is there were these hanging planets because everything's
like kind of a toy like looks like how a kid would set it up so there's this hanging planet
and I had to shrink or I had to shrink down to get like past it and then I like became
normal size did a couple things and then Braille was able to jump on the planet and then I
grew grew giant and then I punched the planet and it helped her swing so she could jump
onto a platform like super cool and it's just the mechanics of being able to grow and shrink
just made me want an Ant-Man game even more yeah so that's completely fair I want one
so bad like so freaking bad and I'm I'll be real I'm kind of bummed out we're getting
an Iron Man game I mean it's fair I mean Iron Man has kind of been done to death so I get
to maybe not much as Spider-Man I it's not necessarily that he's been done to death it's
more he just hasn't been done right fair enough like in Marvel's Avengers it's just kind of
like flying as a bitch fighting's a bit it's like everything freaking sucks about that
game which I'm surprised that they're still releasing content for it dude like straight
up also got notifications of them be like oh hey you know like this new skin is available
in the marketplace tomorrow I'm like you y'all are still releasing shit it's like I don't
give a flying shit I mean that that classic Hawkeye one that they unveiled that looked
pretty freaking cool like classic Clint like yeah we talking like purple cowl and all okay
I have not seen that yet oh dude it's so cool like it went the last time I looked they just
released a Stark outfit for Kate Bishop and I'm like I don't care those are the worst
outfits natural isn't that like the shitty I thought you didn't like that outfit wait
we talk like we talking classic Hawkeye right yeah like I mean I don't love it but I mean
it's still you know Hawkeye so I still enjoy it I mean I definitely do like the ultimate
Hawkeye look more but I mean it's still cool but that they incorporated it in I'm not sure
if I'm if I'm looking at this right outfit when did that one come out I don't came out
in March so it's probably not that one yeah no this one came out like last week I think
last week yeah I'm not seeing this outfit here one second the comic book outfit yeah
all right let me let me check this one out maybe if my internet wants to freaking work
oh that looks a lot better okay yeah right so it's the the same one right yep okay yeah
remember that freaking bullshit one they tried pulling off as the classic costume yep I do
that one looks so stupid this one looks so much better oh yeah I love how they even made his a
bow yellowish looks more of a gold but yeah I'll still take it but that's a really nice nod to the
OG comics yeah that looks way better than I thought it was going to okay but yeah like it's so surprising
that they're still releasing stuff for that game like they're still planning on doing a full winter
soldier release but but it's barely making money I know I feel like they're losing money at this
point oh yeah but I mean I don't think Square Enix has anything else in the works so that I know
shit my heart they're just like milk this shit dry I know right and it's like if you remember like
the big-ass list of freaking characters that they were supposed to release like they've released all
the ones that they planned on releasing so far like they released like a Jane Foster Thor they
released the Black Panther Spider-Man was already kind of on that list but whatever yeah both Hawkeyes
winter soldiers apparently going through so after that we're supposedly so like if they're going in
order of the list like we're supposed to get either she Hulk or Falcon okay interesting yeah
so I'm like you sure you got them budget for this shit I would love to put my the issue with that
game is there's no reason to go back like it's like it's dumb it's dumb to go back and it's like I
don't want to just sit there and beat up bad guys as my favorite superhero I want to like do shit
that they would do as superheroes like I want to use Captain America's shield to frickin stop a
door from closing or use Thor's hammer to charge some sort of technology to open up or overcharge
it or just something like that's the kind of shit that I was expecting to do but whatever
anyway that's my big old rant about Marvel video games they frickin suck I said one thing to not
to add to this but just one thing to bring up did you hear what happened over the weekend with
Rockstar no really so I like I the only thing I heard like I've heard about Rockstar recently
is that they just completely abandoned Red Dead 2 online yeah yeah that's true but that was a
while ago so I don't know how much it seemed like it was a couple hours worth but someone leaked a
bunch of Grand Theft Auto 6 in development footage oh shit yeah so like yeah you can like
see the whole new weapons wheel I mean of course you know it's still in its early developments but
it's looking pretty frickin good though yeah but yeah like Rockstar had to come out and say like
oh hey you know whoever does is gonna be held accountable it's not gonna put a halt on production
of Grand Theft Auto 6 but honestly for how bad it was I was afraid that they were gonna be like
hey you know just to show that person we're gonna screw all you people over and like not in a mean
way but be like hey you know we need to teach someone a lesson we're gonna have to halt the
production of GTA 6 for a minute I don't think leaks like that should halt production like if it
is like a genuine leak and not just like a publicity stunt like I feel like that's definitely wasn't
that I know but I feel like that's kind of what Sonic the Hedgehog was like the leak that's Sonic
was it was a publicity stunt yeah I feel Rockstar is definitely better than that they they won't
release even a teaser trailer until they feel that it's ready that's good I appreciate the hell out
of that oh I do too but yeah from what I saw I just want GTA 6 already like what so you saw a
new weapons wheel what other stuff did you see mostly just like care like the female
protagonist like just walking around you see how the strip clubs are going to look shocker of course
that it's like footage that gets leaked considering that it's taking place I think in like the Florida
area I think that's what they said like you like someone point said that like you can honestly feel
like the freaking humidity on the characters like the like honest even though it's an early
development like the the detail on the characters is already amazing like it's already a step up
from GTA 5 I feel that is awesome I I wonder if they're going to be as like as accurate with
the map as Grand Theft Auto 5 was with LA I don't know I mean I'll be aware or wherever the hell and
like wherever Los Santos is supposed to be like that's supposed to be Los Angeles okay yeah so I
saw a video of some guy he says like hey first time visiting like big Grand Theft Auto 5 fan
visiting LA for the first time and he's like walking around he's like yo I I know this place
he's going around he's like like I know these streets dude like like oh my gosh I know that
like the best place to go get this bitching car dude and and he basically like walks through the
entire like in the entirety of LA and like shoots videos of all like the the landmarks from GTA 5
to that like even goes down to what's the Mike Michael Mike yeah Michael okay yeah so he even
goes as far as finding Michaels house dude that's freaking awesome I'm like dude that is the shit
and like absolute commitment yeah but yeah putting in almost as much commitment as frickin rock
started yeah I know so it makes me curious whether or not it's gonna be that accurate with Florida
I think that's where there I mean I could be wrong where it's taking place but just someone
pointed out the humidity so like I swear someone pointed out like Florida so yeah so if it is
Florida we'll have to talk to DJ and ask yeah or take a road trip down there after we like explore
the map there we go there we go that would be the shit wouldn't it yeah oh dude that'd be awesome
yeah awesome road trip hell yeah dude um but yeah so if you got I think the leaks are at least some
are still available on YouTube or you can probably find them somewhere it wants the leaks on the
internet like there's no getting it off yeah so if you guys want to get it it's rough it's but
they're only a little bit into development so like I've seen like people like getting like so
critical I'm like oh my god it like it doesn't it like barely looks even finish me yeah no shit
they're barely finished game asshole they're barely into development so shut your bitch ass
up I don't think GT we probably won't see GTA 6 until like 2025 or 2026 it's gonna be likely yeah
it's gonna be a minute yeah could say frickin dude you know what was it a couple days ago
frickin GTA 5 turned nine years old holy shit dude yeah that makes me feel really frickin old
dude we were seniors in high school when that movie came that movie that video game released
holy shit we were oh my gosh yeah dude I remember I didn't get that game until I was like already
out of the house and married yeah yeah yeah holy shit if that doesn't frickin make you feel some
not good things in your bones do my bones never feel good I either well old age is catching up to
us it's hard being 26 dude I will straight up tell myself I could say that when our demographics
people in their 40s dude I will straight up admit I wish that I could go back to how my back felt
when I was 18 cuz my job has screwed my backups so bad like I don't want to know how my backs
gonna feel when I'm 30 yeah I don't want to know I'm scared anyway yeah moving on from that depressing
statement oh shit what do you say we move into our headliner of the evening I say let's do it all right
all right so for this week's headliner we'll be breaking down the OG hocus-pocus I don't know
why I made such an emphasis on but it's the OG Caleb do you want to tell everybody how we
break down movies on this podcast hell yeah if you are new to our breakdown system we have split
movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros
letter grade the eight categories that we score our story writing acting character development effects
music costumes and then we give it our own personal score at the very end all of those numbers get
magically added up in our algorithm and spit out a letter grade for us to compare it it to other
movies of that grade and gives us a percentage so we can figure out where it where it ranks within
that that grade so with that if you have not seen hocus-pocus it has been out longer than Rose and I
have been alive and also it to many it's people's favorite Halloween movie so where the hell have
you been yeah so you have absolutely no excuse for not having seen this you this is like one
of the movies that like if you haven't experienced this movie I feel sorry for you but honestly it's
a good one like yeah it's a for being as old as it is yeah I mean a paddle but 93 yeah I mean still
that's three four years older than us yeah fair enough so let's see 1993 for 96 where I was in 96
you were 95 I mean dude you can count me 96 I barely like I know the eye you barely made it
into the 95 an hour and follow is it like an hour and like 42 minutes I think that's how far away
you were from being born in 90 96 yeah cuz I was born at 1022 at night yeah dude I was that close
dude you made it in just under the frickin wire yeah like the frickin ball was getting ready to
drop and it was like here I go shit yeah all right so if 96 plus an additional three years
we're both 26 or 27 28 so 29 so it's almost 30 years old holy shit damn and we're just now
getting a sequel what the hell no dude like holy shit am I personally I know I personally would
have waited an additional year so it's like hey 30th year anniversary finally getting a remake
yeah I can I can agree with that that would have been that would have made it more special but oh
well but still frickin frickin hell dude oh yeah so like I said if you have not seen this movie you
have absolutely no excuse no so without further ado Rose is about to read off the synopsis for
the movie so spoiler alert past this point on October 31st 1693 and Salem Massachusetts Thackeray
Binks sounds like you're saying with a lisp like trying to say Zachary and so you're saying Thackeray
do that I I forgot to turn on the subtitles when I was watching this so that's what I get thinking
was happening that yeah like literally when at Midler tries to say it says Thackeray it sounds
like she's saying Zachary with the list and then I turned the subtitles on and figured out oh
they're thanks there they're saying Thackeray apologies to anyone actually named Thackeray
out there I kind of want to Facebook that name while you talk just to see if there is anyone
with that name yes all right Thackeray Binks witnesses his little sister Emily being whisked
away to the woods by the Sanderson sisters three witches named Winifred Sarah and Mary that
career confronts the witches but fails to save Emily and her life force is drained making the
witches young again after that Thackeray is transformed into a black cat by the witches
cursed to live forever with his guilt for not saving Emily after discovering the children
missing the townsfolk arrest the sisters and sentenced them to be hanged for the murder of
Thackeray and Emily before their execution Winifred casts a curse that will resurrect the sisters
during a full moon on all Hallows Eve if a version lights the black flame candle in their cottage
Thackeray decides to guard the cottage so no one can bring the witches back to life three centuries
later on October 31st 1993 Max Denison reluctantly takes his younger sister Danny out trick-or-treating
where they meet Max's new crush Allison the three visit the former Sanderson cottage now a museum
where Max inadvertently resurrects the witches the witches attempt to suck the soul of Danny
but Max comes to a rescue escaping Max steals Winifred's spellbook on advice from the immortal
cat Binks he takes the group to an old cemetery where they will be protected from the witches
since it since it is hollowed ground the witches eventually catch up to them at the cemetery where
Winifred raises her unfaithful lover Billy Butcherson from the grave and sends them after the
children the witches pursue the children across town using Mary's enhanced sense of smell when
Winifred reveals that the spell that brought back only brought them back only works on Halloween and
unless they can suck the life out of at least one child they will turn to dust when the sun rises
after luring them to the high school the children drop the witches in a pottery kiln and burn them
alive while the children are celebrating the witches curse revives them again not realizing
the witches have survived Max and Allison open the spellbook hoping to reverse the spell on Binks
the open spellbook reveals the location of the group and the witches track them down kidnap Danny
and Binks and recover the spellbook Sarah uses her singing to lure Salem's children to the
Sanderson cottage Max and Allison free Danny and Binks by tricking the witches into believing that
sunrise was an hour early thinking that they are done for the witches panic and pass out allowing
Max Danny Allison and Binks to escape back at the cemetery Billy catches up to the children and
takes Max's knife and cuts his stitched mouth open and insults Winifred before joining the children
against the witches the witches attack from the air and snatch Danny Winifred attempts to use the
last vial of potion to suck the soul from Danny Binks knocks a potion out of her hand which Max
catches and promptly drinks forcing the witches to take him instead of Danny the Sun starts to
rise just as Winifred is about to finish training Max's life force in the ensuing struggle Allison
Danny and Billy fend off Mary and Sarah Max and Winifred struggling in the air fall onto the
hall fall onto the hollowed ground in the cemetery causing Winifred to turn into stone as the Sun
finishes right finishes rising wait sorry as the Sun finishes rising above the horizon Mary and
Sarah are disintegrated into dust along with Winifred stone body the witches deaths break
Thackeray's curse allowing him to finally die and free his soul reuniting him with Emily as they both
head off into the afterlife while Billy returns to his grave to sleep as the movie closes Winifred's
spellbook opens its eye once more revealing that it is still alive which means the witches could
possibly return again someday so I just looked up the name Thackeray and the first thing that I
saw is a Facebook profile for a Thackeray Binks which is a black cat okay and Thackeray is a very
common last name like in fact you are actually yeah in fact you're actually like someone in your
life I'm Michaela her last name is Thackeray just as your oh I'm friends with her yeah no I'm Michaela
Thackeray does it's is that her married last maiden name I don't know okay but she is friends
with a lot of people that we know so anyway probably shouldn't have said her name yeah I
might want to cut that out I know I might have to beep it yeah just just note I'll make that note
good call anyway yeah I mean I didn't that didn't even come to my mind oh maybe we shouldn't anyway
getting into the movie I like I didn't realize it until you said something I didn't realize why
what's her face Winifred turn into stone wait you didn't what I didn't realize why she turned
into stone yeah I didn't eat yeah dude I didn't either cuz that like cuz I watch watched it again
of course in preparation for this and yeah when she turned into stone and then Mary and Sarah just
disintegrate I'm like wait what why is Winifred the only one that turned to stone so but now it
makes sense yeah that makes a lot more sense oh dude this is a real like somehow even with like
the super cheesy acting which we'll get into but somehow they are able to keep your attention so
freaking well and I know 100% it has to do because of the Sanderson sisters oh yeah the these three
actresses are incredible together yeah and I am so excited to see them back yeah me too have you
seen any of the clips or anything no I'm trying to go in to this movie as like as fresh as I can
I've seen one clip and like yeah the chemistry is still there oh good freaking good dude every
time that they're they just like demanded the the audience you know yeah absolutely so good like I
found myself getting bored when it was like the the main actors like Max and Danny dude that's
how I feel I mean Binks is awesome but yeah like I really don't care so much about Dan not Danny
Max and his at Max and Allison you know like hooking up and you know ending up together at
the end just I I really didn't care about that yeah it's like what I was so uninterested when
they threw like after like with everything that happened after the centers after they like were
thrown into the furnace at the school yeah which why the hell do you have like a full-blown human
door at a on a furnace at a school well so that so that's not the furnace that is because they
actually say what that was a pottery kiln why do you have a human-sized pottery kiln I have no idea
that is somehow worse to me so yeah I mean I didn't even know what a kiln was but now I do
that's a no that is freaking terrifying I mean it was the 90s man truth I mean it was like at that point where
might as well have been the 80s yeah dude straight up but damn
yeah like it was so hard for me to get on the team like not on the team like I didn't obviously
didn't want like child murder or anything but I had a hard time wanting the route for the the kids
there's a scene at the beginning and I don't know maybe it's just me that I'm just like I'm not
probably wouldn't have had a kid say that and just it's just very awkward is the part where Danny
like scares Max and she jumps on his bed and she's just like ooh I'm Allison kiss me come on I'm
Allison I'm like I don't care how old you that I don't know that that's that's a little no you
are creep I don't know that I would think for how old Danny looks like she's got to be what like eight
eight or nine I think that's what they said yeah like I feel that she would I don't know maybe I'm
like being too too like oh my god Jonathan she's a child who gives a shit but I don't know that lines
just like it's a little weird for a little sister to say to her big brother that's not that's not
even the weirdest line that they had and we'll get into this with writing but I had some issues
yeah like everything else though I mean there were some things that they didn't quite like explain
super well and like I get that it's just hey leave it up to the audience to figure out or like maybe
there's some witch lore that I don't know about them stepping on like hallowed ground because I
remember Sarah and Mary giving Winifred the that warning saying oh my gosh look it's hallowed
ground and then her being concerned about that but yeah it's like we didn't know what that meant or
at least if they did say what it meant it didn't like I don't know if they did so it's just yeah
one of those things I'm like okay what the hell happened and why aren't the other two turning
the stone because I thought it was the sunlight that was turning her to stone that's what I
thought dude honestly I thought that ever since I was a kid yeah so that's what I assumed so this
is like the first I'm hearing of her turning the stone because she was standing on hallowed
ground yeah well learn something new every watch I guess I don't know yeah but this is just a super
entertaining movie and it has to do solely because of the standard and standard sin sisters oh yeah
if they were not in this I'm this movie would be boring as fuck I'm just gonna say right now
rate up the no freaking joke there dude like it is border it's borderline ridiculous how like how
little I cared about max Danny and Allison yeah like I said I out of that group I cared about the
cat the most yeah do which I think is so freaking funny the the kid that voiced the cat isn't isn't
the actor that police him and yeah yeah it's like I swear that they explained why they did that but
I can't remember because yeah the guy that does the voice for the cat yeah I forget his name too
yeah he plays a max and a goofy movie yep gosh I wish they would which I mean he was still
young Jason Jason Marsden that's yeah that's his name Jason Marsden maybe it's in like the trivia
portion of IMDB let me see if I can find it in there their voices do somewhat sound alike a little
not dude it looking at it it didn't work in the slightest maybe I'm too nice all right so let's
check this out during a 20th anniversary screening of the film Doug Jones revealed that the moths had
come out of his mouth at the end are real you know that's disgusting it's like but why the actor wore
a mouth rig that was a latex pocket that is terrifying yeah that's that's gross want to see
why they did the voice thing oh that's tough though what I think I just found it I think I
found the answer what's that so this is what this is what Google just says so Sean Murray the actor
that played Thackeray is best known for his role of agent Tim McGee on the show and say yes during
the audition of focus posted Wow wait wait Jeff okay wait no never mind I thought that there was
it was the same name wait who Jeff Fahey I'm so confused there's three freaking names here which
is which okay yeah so that's okay so yeah that's the guy okay I found it I found it okay awesome
Sean Murray played the human version of Binks and actor Jason Marsden voiced the character both in
his human and feline forms in 2017 Marsden told the Daily Beast that producers dubbed his voice
over Murray's because the actor sounded contemporary and they thought it would be more realistic if
Binks had an affected accent from the same time period as the witches so it's because his voice
didn't sound like it came from the right period such a stupid reason to do a horrible dub oh man
I mean hopefully they at least told him I'm sure they did unlike they did to the guy that um you've
seen Ghostbusters 2 right yes have I told you the whole situation that happened with the guy that
played ego the Carpathian the the portrait no so there's behind the scenes footage of the guy like
actually staying the lines and everything I'm sorry he sucks he's he doesn't know he he does
not convey emotion at all and so they you know dubbed it over with another voice but they didn't
tell him that they had dubbed it over he didn't find out until the war until the world premiere
that um his yeah um so yeah I I feel really bad I've always felt really bad for him cuz that's
just f'd up yeah that that's super f'd up oh anyway getting back into the story there there
was a lot of focus and it's hard for me to like separate this from writing just because of how
big of a role this played they seemed to do the complete opposite of slut shaming Max for being
a virgin like he got made fun of so much dude dude the freaking way that his uh when he lights it and
he's like wait what happened and his sister like dead like just dead stare a virgin lit the candle
I know it's like the entire time like when they were freaking telling that fake cop and then like
the way that he they're just like a virgin lit the candle and he like and he's just like yes yes I
lit the candle okay and they looks over at him looks over at Allison looks back over at him you're
really a virgin like yeah I'll get it tattooed on my head he's an high school creep like is being is
is not being a virgin something that like has to happen in Salem like what the hell like I mean
I'll full I mean I'll fully admit I'm sure considering that you know we were in Utah in
high school days in a lot of states I fully admit there are a lot of people that do lose their V
card in high school I understand that but to get made fun of for it fair enough dude and oh I can't
wait to get into acting too anyway I'm trying to I'm trying so hard to stick in story the story
overall where it is these three witches that can be brought back to life with from a virgin lighting
the black flame candle and the shenanigans that happened because they've been gone for 300 years
and just like all that that stuff and then like the the route that they had to go to get their
book back and all this other like magic shit like it it seems very like when you kind of put it
together like how you're reading the synopsis if it feels like it'd be very cluttered but somehow
they were able to pull it off really freaking well without making something likes there were
maybe some parts that were maybe a little over complicated but not very many yeah I absolutely
agree yeah they even made how they made their freaking potions pretty simplistic yeah like
they they simplified this a ton and it was really nice to like watching this as like a critic and
not just like a typical consumer like it it feels it has a good flow it has good good energy like
obviously that they're the I think where they struggle is writing good protagonists but they
wrote the antagonists amazingly let's hope the second one does better with the whole protagonist
thing I hope so I genuinely hope so so yeah so my story is probably way higher than my writing
score is I would agree what what are you sitting at I'd say I'm in the high 80s so I'm gonna I'm
gonna go solid 87 I think I'm like right there with you I might be a little lower though so I'm
gonna go like an 86 okay all right next up we got writing and like I said the big thing for me was
how much Max seemed to get roasted for being a virgin by everyone including what was it ice and
well actually wait no I don't know if they even make really really fun of him for being a virgin
do they his I think they do I think Danny says something when they're like around and he kind
of gets roasted a little bit for that does he bring up they bring up his virginity a lot yeah
I mean yeah I guess if you're the virgin that lit the candle that that's your title for life yeah
or at least until the Sanderson sisters die yeah so I thought that was kind of it got ridiculous
after a certain point where I'm just like he's a kid and I like the the fake cop when he's just
like really kind of giving him that like super judgy vibe I'd be like dude what he's in high
school you don't know his life yeah exactly and you don't know how old this kid is either like
it could be like highly inappropriate for him to be having sex yeah he could be only 15 I mean he
doesn't look 15 but just now he friggin looked like he was like 30 yeah what is up with like back in
like the 80s and 90s and even into the 2000s they could not get actors that actually looked like they
could be in high school nowadays I feel they're getting a lot better with it which I appreciate
the hell out of I feel like maybe they like back then they just had they didn't want to go through
the trouble of having to film like during us like the summer and so they were just like freaking
screw it we'll just get the kid that like looks closest to to this age and isn't in school anymore
so you're working with kids that are in their like early 20s already like that's that's just
what I would assume it's kind of like the Toby McGuire thing like all those kids dude oh my
god and those have the like saying kids it was with the biggest quotation marks you can throw
up there like it not realistic whatsoever no no no but yeah there's that um like that was my my
big issue with like the writing just like virgin roasting I also didn't care for the bullies I
think they were just overwritten or not overwritten they weren't written very well like I I can't stay
in bullies just for being a bully sake I mean that's fair I mean I'm not the way that I look
at it I mean this what I feel the 90s was before like bullying like really actually like became a
I mean I'm sure it was still a problem back then but it wasn't until like our I feel our age like
really came around her our demographic wow our generation god damn it came around that like
bullying actually like started to be taken seriously like it actually like really could
like mess someone up and so I feel that bullying is like in this kind of movie yeah it's supposed
to be taken as a joke so I get where you're coming from like you like you know if they're
bullies for the sake just being bullies but I guess like movies got a movie so I guess and
still not not the biggest fan of that no it just feels over the top yeah like awfully admit if I
was a bully in a high school I would not freaking shave the name that I wanted to be called on the
back of my head freaking dumb that like he does realize he's gonna have to redo that like every
two weeks right and it's on the back of his head too like you're not getting that done right every
single time nope like I feel like a well-written bully is someone like just off the top of my head
like flash Thompson from spider-man homecoming like I see you like I feel like that's well-written
where he's being a bully but just no one's really like taking it super serious yeah which I
appreciate I like that a lot yeah and like he gets those like funny little quips in and and
whatever and it's it's it is like roasting like Peter Parker but it does it's just not taken super
serious and I feel like this it's just very very cheesy bullying and kind of yeah about it the
freaking when they're set up at the end of that person's like walkway and are charging Andy and
he says yeah ten chocolate bars no liquor so I'm like ten chocolate bars damn dude fat ass yeah
shit just like get a hell dude and they're like I think that some other writing issue like what
you said what Danny was saying like making fun of Max at the beginning being like ooh I'm out like
that felt weird like anything with the the protagonist felt a little awkward like how he
how Max went downstairs and he was like in it just a normal jacket and a hat and his dad's like what
are you supposed to be and he's like I'm a rap singer yeah not and then I don't know if I'm gonna
be the type of dad that can like take shit like that from a from my child seriously like if my
kid came down and was just like in the quote-unquote coolest clothes that he could find and just trying
to like play a hard ass I don't know if I could keep myself from laughing in that kid's face you
know what fair enough man fair enough like especially if he pulled played it off like that like he's I'm
a rap singer go to hell shut up no you know you're not you're an angsty teenager you freaking asshole
would you have followed it with what Danny calls him when they call out his costume and she's just
like for your information he's a little leaguer that was funny as hell that was I was just like
I yeah I laughed really freaking hard with that cuz it's just like she she heard what he was
supposed to be oh yeah absolutely so we talked about speaking of like his dad you know talking
to him about the whole can we talk about the parents for a minute because those mother effers
were at a party to like 6 o'clock in the frickin morning after what happened with their kids like
how they came running in they're just like hey you know we need your help we need your help with the
Sanderson sisters are back yada yada yada and they don't think that I mean even though they
don't believe them they don't think to maybe oh you know maybe we should go looking for our kids
make sure that they're okay well I get it's the 90s okay well the Sanderson sisters put the adults
under a spell like that wasn't just some musical number for a musical number that was a spell they
did they did god damn it all right you know we're gonna introduce a new segment on this show how
stupid can Jonathan be or Rose can be so this is this is the first of many no that way I get it
they're not super clear about that like I'm just I'm still a fucking idiot no like I didn't the
only reason that I know that is because they were a like the way that the parents like went
completely like blank-faced and we're doing like dancing right after Winifred was saying like dance
dance dance until you die and so I'm like and like I'm not a hundred percent certain that it was a
spell like there's still some doubt in my mind maybe they are just like horrible parents but in
like with that and it's just like okay she says this she like has this whole song about putting a
spell on them says dance dance dance until you die and then on top of that like hey she's a witch
is it completely outside the realm of possibility that she has to do a musical number to put these
people under a spell like for me it's just taking those steps being like yeah like that's probably
why they're not like that shitty okay so I'm only half of an idiot cool yeah I mean it's something
you can easily miss it's it's yeah moving on not even gonna argue just yep you're half an idiot
Rose let's go yeah I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you you know what I expected don't even
lie you would have done the exact same thing to me yeah yeah absolutely there's no doubt yeah
I'm trying to think of like some other like writing issues like I felt like Binks kind of
got a little like I think maybe he was the voice that fell out of place I disagree but yeah and
dude the the way that they freaking talked aggravated the ever-living shit out of me like
when they were talking like when no one banks was talking to like the kids versus of how he talked
to the sisters and he's just like the way that they just overused the oh he like goes back to
like olden times yeah he talks like he talks just fine modern times to the to the kids but when he's
talking to them which is like yeah like they're like they're how dare you come back the yeah it's
like exactly how I would talk if I didn't know how to freaking talk old style like you know what
fair enough saying it's it was ridiculous it was just utterly ridiculous the end don't get me wrong
it works it's just cheesy as all hell and I kind of got a docket for the cheese I will okay I will
add to writing I feel that was two parts that were good I feel one outshined the other were
two situations that the Sanders sisters got in was the was the scene with the bus driver that
was pretty good but I feel feel overshadowed that was the old guy dressed as the devil and
I'm actually believing that he was Satan that was great that is definitely a highlight of the movie
for for me at least oh yeah yeah it is so good it's so freaking good and I feel like oh sorry no I
was just I think where my my issues lie with kind of everyone is they just seem very inconsistent
like max always seems kind of like afraid wanting to run away but then he has these moments of like
of courage that just feel out of character for him that's fair and then the same thing with the
Sanderson sisters like Winifred seems like very capable very smart and then it's like her two
sisters are the dummies but then she goes and falls for random shit too like how she for like
I think it would have been funny if the I think it would have been funnier for Winifred to like
know that it wasn't really the Sun maybe get like a little worried being like okay what the hell is
this and when a light comes shining into her window and being like oh my god like being afraid of
that but then realizing it's not burning her or anything and then the only reason that she's like
distracted and like long enough for Max and Danny to get away is because her sister's like backed
like fall on her and like knock her over okay and then I like I also I had some issues like with
with Danny's line when they're like leaving the house and she's like stops at the door and then
Alison's just doing this thing where she's she's pointing to the car like yeah we know what you're
supposed to get to and then Danny turns around or Max turns around he's like let's go and Danny's
suddenly gets like super gangster and like I want to see her turn to dust and then say you're not
Laurie Strode it's not like you need to watch Michael Myers burn yeah I'm like why yeah and
then then she like has this like moment of real life like oh never mind yeah it's like something
freaking someone flipped a switch in her mind turned her to a freaking gangster and it switched
it back and then she like came to her senses and was like oh yeah let's go like there was no point
for that what yeah yeah I I did not like it at all speaking of that did you have you watched like
any of the deleted scenes for Halloween kills this is just like random but I actually want to
know if you have no so there and I hate that they deleted this scene because they should have put it
there's a scene with sheriff or bracket like the security guard at the hospital okay so do you
remember him from the original movie sheriff bracket when Annie's father yes okay so there's
a scene so they deleted a scene where he goes and talks to Allison and you know like asked like oh
what is it him you know he killed my daughter Annie and she says you know yeah yeah it was him you
know we burned Michael Myers alive in our basement and he's just like I would have loved to watch him
burn that kind of like him and like Laurie Strode that kind of shit yeah that makes absolute sense
why they're just like yeah I would love to see this motherfucker burn yeah Danny's is just like
it it's not warranted yeah they just kind of they just kind of snatched you and tied you to a chair
and threatened to eat you it's not like they did anything actually did yeah yeah so it just felt
very odd for her like I said to go gangster in that moment yeah so yeah anyway so like I said my
my score for my the writing is pretty a lot lower than story like personally I think I'm not even
cracking the 80s with it I think you know what I feel the same way I think I'm down like 78 range
you know what I'm gonna match you all right next up we got acting so the main cast or who I would
consider the main cast we got Bette Midler who played Winifred Sarah Jessica Parker who played
Sarah Kathy Najimy who played Mary Omri Katz who played Max Thorough Birch who played Danny and
Vanessa Shaw who played Allison and then we had Thackery Binks who was voiced by James or Jason
Marsden but he was just kind of a voice so yeah so I don't think this is gonna be super hard but
who's your top three so shocker it's all three of the Sanderson sisters just in a different order
yeah so number three I would give to Sarah I loved her don't get me wrong Sarah Jessica it's really
funny that she's played by Sarah Jessica Parker yeah I know right her name is Sarah that's really
funny but she she's amazing she's hilarious I always laugh at the part at the beginning when
she like puts so much emphasis on dead man's toe dead man's toes is freaking dancing around
I love it she's freaking great like all three of them are great the song I have the exact same
issue with her in this role that I have with Heath Ledger as Joker I cannot for the life of me see
Sarah Jessica Parker in in Sarah Sanderson like you know how you can like look at an actor that's
like all dressed up in makeup or whatever like or in a mask or whatever it may be like Christian
Bale as Batman I can see Christian Bale in Batman right okay yeah I cannot see Sarah Jessica Parker
in Sarah Sanderson at all no matter how much I try I'm like I do not understand what's happening
here but you could tell like if someone were to come out and be like okay like just kidding guys
like Sarah Jessica Parker didn't really play Sarah Sanderson I would believe it in it in a heartbeat
okay that raises a question do you feel the same way with how she looks in Hocus Pocus 2 no that
she was in that I was just like yeah that's straight up just Sarah Jessica dude save cuz
yeah dude I absolutely agree with you yeah it does not look like her at all just yeah everything
yeah oh yeah on the sequel oh yeah that is that is absolute Sarah Jessica Parker yeah it's just like
I said no matter how hard I freaking try I cannot find Sarah Jessica Parker in her it is that's the
weirdest thing for me dude like I said it's the same thing with Heath Ledger's Joker the only time
that I ever saw Heath Ledger in the Joker was when he was like dressed up as a cop without makeup
that's the only time I'm like oh yeah that's Heath Ledger yeah but but when he has the makeup on no
can't freaking see it man it's just a craftsman to both their works in these movies yeah so it
it blows my freaking mind and eat like every time I watch Hocus Pocus because I try so hard
so freaking hard like I will pause the movie and just stare at her and be like I cannot see her
you're just like Elsa show yourself oh my exactly that's exactly how I feel
so you put her in at number three yes I feel that these two will surprise you number two I'm gonna
give to Bette Midler what yeah yeah I have good reasoning all right let's hear it absolutely
incredible astonishing as Winifred she is the main star of this movie and there's a reason why
she's the main witch she is amazing she's hilarious there is like nothing bad that you can say about
her not only as an actress but this character I mean of course she's a witch so she's a bitch but
she plays her so well that you just can't help but love her fill the way with all three of them
but number one I would actually give to Catherine Najimy is that her yes okay who plays Mary
ever since the first time that I saw this movie she was always my favorite witch I love her so
much she's freaking hilarious just everything about her I just love I'm catching myself like
quoting some of her lines every single time that I watch this movie and I don't even mean to like
especially the part where they're leaving the devil's house and she's like oh it's candy why
would the master give us candy just I that is a extremely controversial top three or at least
not not top three I think everyone can agree the Sanderson sisters are the best part of this movie
that is a very controversial ranking of the Sanderson sisters bring it people let's go
you you might have to that's my ranking I ain't changing it let's hear yeah mine I think is the
more at least I think it might be I feeling mine is the like the typical ranking of the of the
three I would put Kathy Najimy at number three all right I'm out dude you know you have a freaking
controversial outlook on this this is the same thing as Hawkeye being your favorite Avenger true
it's good point like so I don't get me wrong they're all great like these if they were compete like
it if they're competing like if I was ranking this all three of these girl ladies would tie
for number one like they are incredible and it's hard to like view them as individuals especially
in like a role like this where they're so reliant on each other's chemistry but I think Katherine
and Jimmy came off as a little bit more I'll say annoying in a way and I know that was done on
purpose so it's hard for me to like judge her for that Sarah on the other hand like she was she was
fine like if they all were so good in their roles like so good it's just I think I liked Sarah a
little bit more than I like Mary and then Winifred's just my favorite like I think she's so freaking
funny no she is no I absolutely agree with you and like I said I love how she like calls her
sisters idiots or imbeciles after falling for the exact same thing that they just did dude right
like I feel like she especially with like the reign of death thing that Max tried pulling I
feel like she she fell for that harder than everyone else oh my god like seriously just
the way that she like overreacted yeah so I like I said I freaking loved the Sanderson sisters they
were the best part of the of Hocus Pocus they are Hocus Pocus yep like I'm pretty sure if you ask
anyone that who hasn't seen Hocus Pocus in a while or maybe even since last year like hey who's the
the main character Hocus Pocus they'll say the Sanderson sisters I hate you remember the other
three people's names do you remember the cat's names bet you don't unless you're like a die-hard
fan of Hocus Pocus then anyway so yeah that's that's my ranking of them what what are you giving for
acting because I had a really difficult time thinking about this one I do too because like
the three main are like so great but then like the besides Jason wasn't Jason Marsden right yes
so I really liked his performance as well I mean definitely not as much as the Sanderson sisters
but I still feel he did a really good job it's just everybody else that brings down my acting
score for me so I don't I don't know are you I want to say I'm in like this are you in the
70s or 80s unfortunately I think I'm in that 70s I think I'm not too okay by themselves the
Sanderson sisters I would put mid to high 80s okay yeah it is literally everyone else that brings
this movie down it's especially frickin max like I think max is the worst part of this movie yeah
I can yeah I can do it like Danny was pretty good like she was annoying a little kid but that was
her role like she's supposed to play annoying little kid Allison's was kind of a competent
third wheel I would say to the max Danny duo and she was just kind of served as like the insight
to the Sanderson sisters history so I mean she played a decent role but again not super memorable
like yeah I am willing to bet I'm probably not gonna remember her name next week no matter how
many how many times have you seen this movie Keith I saw most Halloween's growing up okay so as an
adult maybe like three times okay like if you count like as a as a kid probably like ten total
from remembering what yeah that's about what I'm out to yeah so I mean I'm really familiar with
this movie like I probably could have done this movie without having watched it but I did watch
it today yeah same but yeah I did that is something cuz I mean I'm always down to rewatch
this movie yeah it I like to have fresh in my fresh in my mind yeah if we would have done like
maybe any other movie I that would die that's not like themed like this I probably wouldn't have
watched it if I was familiar with it leave it was one another one from my childhood but this is one
that I have no issue re like coming back to yeah same here so like I said the the main three for
me I'd be in the high 80s but it's everyone else there's there's not another single good actor in
the group for me I mean for me it's just Jason Marsden but it's like mmm I've seen him do better
yeah it was an odd choice to have them do a dub yeah that's just weird and it's like at that point
why don't you just let him be the kid cuz I mean yeah he was still young enough I think guys like
it was like his 40s so he would have been in his 20s and let me look at his picture just before I
make this statement he has a major case of babyface say like it is not even funny how yeah that is baby
faces there's a reason why he usually keeps a beard he's like Haley Joel Osment that's like
the only way that they can try to look older yep so yeah easily could have played that's
actually things factory we're gonna if there is actually someone with a list that listen to this
we're gonna get so much shit yeah whatever but yeah I like I think if it was just the actors like
just the additional actors I think I'd be down in like the the mid-60s damn like I wouldn't I
would not be nice like not even a little bit so I think if I were to average that out I think
I'm in like the mid 70s maybe just be given a couple bonus points to the Sanderson sisters
I might go up to like a 76 that's what I'm thinking go 76 all right next up we got character
development which this is kind of a max story is really that high I mean it's not it's it's
average I wouldn't say it's low enough but it's it's definitely more on the average side no I mean
I mean I guess it is nice that you know like he actually does get the girl at the end at least
they didn't weren't just like oh no turns out she actually still has a boyfriend so yeah and he does
become a better brother to Danny like their relationship does grow stronger from what it
originally has and then he also I feel grows a strong appreciation for Salem which I'm not sure
if the plate or the synopsis explained it he moved from California to Salem it did not so
good nice job Adama yeah so I think him just appreciating his his new environment a little
bit helped a lot too with his his growth so he he does grow very like a lot as a character and
you kind of get to see some of that progression which is nice yeah I agree oh yeah absolutely
I don't think they make any crazy leaps where it's like oh suddenly like a super out of character
moment like everything feels within the scope of something that's happened to him in the span of
this movie yeah like he kind of starts off as a non-believer and like magic and witches and all
like all things spooky yeah and then grows into a believer and it's it's just it's nice to see I
I actually I really like movies like that where they where it's like a non-believer to a believer
it is nice I will absolutely agree with you on that one yeah so I appreciated the hell out of
that story like I said fairly average though so yeah where would you be at yeah just because it
was fairly I'm honestly like 75 I might go a little bit higher to I think I'm on the same
level as like the acting score okay so I'm gonna give it a 76 all right next up we got effects
which we can't be too harsh on because this was a I don't think this had a theatrical release right
no it did it did mm-hmm 1993 so what else came out in 1993 okay I'm not super upset with the like
the kind of movies that were coming out in 1993 like comparing like the graphics and everything
what are we looking at so first one is Ninja Turtles 3 oh god okay say what you will about
that movie it's not the worst it's probably the worst of it is it's the worst of it it's the worst
Ninja Turtles movie period that might be a little harsh but I also I like the Michael Bay movies
better than that piece of shit you take that back you son of a bitch no I will not because I don't
care if those were you know like still like the kind of costumes that they used from the first
and second movie considering that the Jim Henson company had gone out at that gone out of business
at that point they had to go to a new studio to get the costumes for the third one and they look
like shit in my opinion they don't look as good as the first and second one so and just don't
get me started with the stupid ass freaking jokes in that movie with the help I'm a turtle and I
can't get up or I swore to fly hope it wasn't an ancestor so stupid I hate that freaking movie
oh my god okay I'm sorry dude I hate Ninja Turtles 3 I it like I don't know like mmm yeah I hate that
movie yeah I'm looking at all the movies that came out in 1993 and none of them seem to be very good
like I'm leaving out the animated movies because like Nightmare Before Christmas came out in 1993
and like Tombstone but that's like a western so I'm not really counting that
like Demolition Man there's not a lot damn
Adam's Family Values came out in 1993 that's actually kind of funny considering that they
make an Adam's Family joke in the third Ninja Turtles movie yeah so not super impressed so
I think I am I think I'm justified in saying that the effects weren't absolutely horrible
there were some oh yeah that were definitely like not super great green screen like especially when
they were flying yeah I mean in there I mean that was all wire work yeah so it's like you kind of
got to give it a pass for that yeah for wire work it's it's not bad like for 93 I think they did a
good job yeah I'll say this as far as uh effects go practicality was huge in this oh yeah absolutely
like just about Billy the zombie like him alone was amazing yeah that looks super good or he looks
super good yeah super freaking scary um I mean and they didn't have like I think what makes this
movie kind of timeless even though it does take place like way back when they don't have too many
references or anything that's like brings us back to the the 90s other than like maybe the fashion
yeah I was yeah that and like the part where they're like um actually like um trick-or-treating
and like you can like see some of the cars in the background so you're like okay yeah that's
that's definitely in 90s but yeah they're they never really come out and say oh yeah welcome
to the 90s yeah which I appreciated a lot yeah there's nothing that really ages this movie
other than the the effects and the effects that they did have were not horrible like yeah when
Winifred's using magic and blasting that the shit out of max like it was such a small part like
like the effects were so minimal like the effect when max's drink like after max had drank the
potion and he just kind of has this like white aura around him like very minimalistic and they
do show that like Winifred can like suck that in yeah but it's like I said it's so minimal it's
just it's hard to like judge it yeah no yeah I absolutely agree um the black flame looked
really good super like their their effects were basic but effective even the freaking eye on the
book that looked really good yeah freaking practicality up the ass with that one yeah
yeah so I don't know about you but I'm actually putting the effects pretty high
with this one I would agree too yeah like even though this is a 90s movie and like the special
effects aren't up to par I think given the time period set in like the early 90s it's
I don't think this movie had like a crazy big budget at least I don't think they did
I think it was like 20 million yeah so I mean it's not okay so 28 million
and then they made 45 back like worldwide I know with like how many like home video sales though
they've had since then it's definitely made its money back and then some oh yeah for sure um
so yeah I I'm pretty pretty high like probably not 90s high but I'm in like 89 range at least
I can match that all right moving on over to music and dude this soundtrack was bitchin
oh yeah who doesn't love I put a spell on you like come on that that song that scene is just
iconic they did not have a whole lot of songs on this yeah honestly that's like the only one that
like comes to my mind yeah so they have I put a spell on you Sarah's theme oh yeah one called
witchcraft one called a saber dance chance and incantations divertimento number 17 and row row
row your boat and that's everything that's on their soundtrack wow damn and they have I put a
spell on you three different times I love it but that's it it's it's a good one it's hard to say
that it's not a good it's not good yeah dude seriously though I honestly the only thing that
I think it's missing is maybe more songs I think what's what's keeping this from being a like a
solid 10 for me is like just an an amazing score and just a couple more songs to kind of get you
in that witchy mood but I put a spell on you is such a good song I think that alone and then
off obviously the additional songs kind of put it at nine for me oh dude yep won't even argue that
or it's not even gonna it's not hard to convince you of shit not with this movie not with this movie
all right next up we got costumes and what can we say other than pure perfection I would honestly
give this a 10 I'm I'm damn near willing to give it a 10 yeah it's just so good they are so good
and then not like not even counting the Sanderson sisters like everyone else like it's Halloween
like all the costumes felt like really freaking good yeah even Danny's witch costume looked really
good yeah like everyone's costume other than Max being a freaking asshole climbing hey he's a little
leaguer freaking dumb but aren't you sweet it is it's ridiculously good how like iconic
the Sanderson sisters are in this how they look have you um seen on TikTok there's this lady and
her husband that are taking those you know those like giant skeletons they sell like Home Depot or
some shit that are like I forget how freaking tall they are but like they're ridiculously tall
yeah so they bought three of them and they actually are dressing them up as the Sanderson sisters
no shit it's so freaking cool I'll have to send you the video um but yeah like literally she said
the only thing that they need to work on is like adding maybe like a little bit more fabric to the
skirts and then getting wigs that are actually like um weatherproof waterproof um and like kind
of fit more on the uh the head but they look so freaking cool dude that is epic right oh yeah
is so awesome yeah so I have like no issues giving them a 10 because the Sanderson sisters have an
iconic like silhouette you can tell who they are based solely off the silhouette absolutely and it
it's freaking awesome like Winifred's big poofy like hair frick Mary's like pumpkin
yeah pumpkin stem but yeah no that's a perfect way to explain it yeah it oh so good so good and then
on top of that whoever the hell did Sarah Jessica Parker's makeup in this made her damn near
unrecognizable to me like they did absolute perfection so good like I cannot say enough
like I cannot say enough good things about their outfits and like their outfits are are so cool
like they're they kind of have this like really neat like regal feel about them
what sorry you're just staring at me blankly I thought oh sorry
like I I thought like I was supposed to like say something I'll tell him like wait what am I
supposed to say oh I just they just have a really great look about them and yeah it's fantastic
like these these three are iconic in every way like the way that they act their outfits
it's everything it is amazing and then like I said that's not even getting into Billy's
outfit who is who is played by the way by the famous Doug Jones like do you know what
who remind me who Doug Jones is again you would not know his face oh shit okay but you would
you will know a lot of this this shit okay okay let me find one he was the amphibian man in the
shape of water I've never seen that movie but okay I know what you're talking about okay he was
trying to find one I think you might have seen
there's one I just need to find it
okay have you seen hellboy and hellboy 2 I'm not you haven't seen the original hellboy
no never I shit it's like well we can't be bros anymore well podcast has ended
shit that's his most like his most infamous role I'm sorry
okay he played the silver surfer okay okay I know that
damn it dude his like he there's a bunch that I know him from that I know you haven't seen
but he is like infamous for wearing these crazy freaking outfits like he this man acts behind a
mask like you don't know you would not recognize his face but you would recognize his outfits
okay and it's just it's insane like how much shit he's been in where he's just covered up
have you seen pan's labyrinth no damn it own it haven't watched it okay have you seen stuff from it
no you haven't you so you know nothing about pan's labyrinth nope okay
bitch you good yeah freaking bug got on me
really need a freaking seal up my window I freaking have a wall unit in it and it's
letting bugs in and it pisses me off okay well I thought you might have known Doug Jones but
sorry to disappoint you do you know anything from hellboy
no not really just Ron Perlman that's hellboy do you know his partner Abe Sapien nope okay well I
never mind well I'm disappointed now yeah anyway that's who Doug Jones is
oh shit so yeah freaking just iconic outfits all around and yeah all right last up we got personal
scores so I'll take this one since you're signing this off okay I am not going to be signing this
off okay I have a very freaking bug sorry got distracted it like was climbing on my wall and
I was trying to like figure out what to kill it with and then it flew off oh yeah hell no I'd be
out and I was trying to like figure out what to kill it with and then it flew off oh yeah hell no
I'd be out I'd be out that door so fast
yeah my feelings towards this movie it's not one at least not anymore that I actively seek out
during the Halloween season but if someone wants to watch it I'm like totally game and I will sit
through whatever part of the movie is on if I get there in the middle of watching it just want to
start watching it if it's near the end middle whatever like I'll watch it well and it's it's
one that I I highly enjoy I think the Sanderson sisters are amazing and like I said iconic as all
hell like they are like a peak Halloween symbol in my eyes and with that I'm putting my personal
score I'm gonna go 80 85 I think that's as high as I can go for for that one
like don't get me wrong love it like love it to death but 85 I mean I feel like 85 still pretty high so
yeah no no absolutely so much that I I'm gonna actually match on this one too
god damn it my keyboard wants to work yeah so 85 for me as well I absolutely love it
85 for me as well I absolutely agree with what Caleb said this is not a movie and at least
anymore that I really seek to watch every single Halloween but yeah if someone is down to watch
this I'm absolute game if like this is their first time watching it yep I'll be there because it's
that good of a oh my geez Louise it's that good of a Halloween movie the three main actresses that
play the Sanderson sisters amazing chemistry so good together it's just the the rest of the cast
that brings the movie down just a tad but it is made up by other stuff so yeah 85 for me
hell yeah all right well with that that brings us to the conclusion of this breakdown
so the final Albrows letter grade for Hocus Pocus has come to a
B all right I like it yeah a very very strong B as well it's it's sitting at an 85%
like on the dot on the dot which I hit I doubt happens like ever yeah dude seriously that's
awesome yeah so it is sitting on the exact same level as the oath which is funny enough as a
Thanksgiving movie yeah that's funny but it puts it below the Lion King the remake okay
puts it below or so Lion King was at an 85.1 so it's like barely above then it is below
the unbearable weight of massive talent which is at an 85.37 it is below Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone which is at an 85.43 it is also below Candyman and the
exact same 85.56 but going the opposite direction Hocus Pocus is above the Matrix Resurrection
which is at an 85.56 which is also below Candyman and the exact same 85.56
but going the opposite direction Hocus Pocus is above the Matrix Resurrection
which is at an 84.7 it is above Christopher Robin which is at an 84.56
it is above Prey which is at an 84.43 and it is or it is also above Avengers Age of Ultron
which is at an 84.37 and then finally it is above Solo a Star Wars story edit which is at an 84.21
not bad yeah so the margins here are tight like tight tight tight
like we're like Solo isn't even a full percentage away from it damn like Solo it so the difference
between Solo and Hocus Pocus is literally 0.8 percent and then the difference between Solo and
Hocus Pocus is literally 0.8 percent and then the difference between Solo and Hocus Pocus is literally
0.8 percent. Shit damn and the difference between like our top B movie which is the
The Force Awakens that's like the highest B that we have so far the difference between
Hocus Pocus and The Force Awakens is also 0.8. Wow. So it's not even a full percentage
difference which is why we love this system it just gives us like very like we're getting down
to like the thousandths of a place and I love when that happens like a full percentage difference from
Hocus Pocus going down would be Thor Ragnarok so Thor Ragnarok is a full percentage lower than
Hocus Pocus. Damn. Yeah and then going the opposite direction getting a full percentage
um Mr. Peabody and Sherman is a full percentage above Hocus Pocus. Okay. But Mr. Peabody and
Sherman is is at a B plus. Oh okay gotcha. So like I said the margins are toit like toit toit toit
but this is why I freaking love this system dude.
I love how like how I love when our scores can be so exact like this.
Like it just makes it so good like so interesting and I love that um that we are able to figure out
where this one sat and I'm not the least bit upset about it. No I'm not either not at all.
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Caleb what are we doing next week uh next week we will be doing
fingers crossed over the top with special guest ben bullman from the angry dad podcast yeah that's
what it was I'm sorry which is funny because next week's his turn for the promo hey what a coincidence
um but yeah uh so that will do it for this week um
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