What up bros, I'm Caleb and unfortunately Rose is out sick this week, so I brought in
a very special guest, Big Ben Buhlmann from the Angry Dad Podcast.
You wanna say hi Ben?
Oh yeah, I'm here for an epic movie.
Hell yeah.
Rose and I are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the All Bros.
This week on the podcast we have a bit of news that dropped quite literally like an
hour or two ago.
Yup, I was like, oh shit.
Yeah, so we'll be talking about that and then we'll be getting into our breakdown of Over
the Top, the 1987 Sylvester Stallone movie.
Hell yeah.
So with that, let's say we get right on into it.
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In my defense, I have tried changing it.
I might have to just send you a new copy because I use an AAC program and it condenses everything
down to a smaller platform or a smaller megabyte to upload because sometimes these podcasts
take up some serious fucking memory.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, we know all about that with our three hour episodes that we occasionally have.
But yeah, I've gone in and tried to replace it.
It's funny because when I throw it into the soundboard, it lowers your pitch.
But when I throw it into the editor, I can just crop out the promo and just replace it
with the exact same file and it just somehow works out normal.
Yeah, it's so weird.
I don't think I'm gonna replace it this week just for the shits and giggles.
Yeah, let the people hear it.
Well first up and through the wall, we are gonna be talking about the Deadpool 3 announcement
that was just made from the great Ryan Reynolds.
And bro, I could not be more excited for this movie.
I know it doesn't come out for like two years, but oh.
I can't wait.
And then plus the way they did it because like the symbol and then the iconic three
slash I was like, that is an icon you can fucking promote.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Dude, so I thought it was some sort of joke.
Like so DJ send it to me on TikTok.
I know DJ send it to me on TikTok.
I'm like, dude, don't freaking mess with me like that.
And then I went on.
I went on.
Yeah.
So I went on Ryan Reynolds social media because it looked like a freaking mint mobile commercial.
Oh, that's just the aviation commercial because he was like literally pouring a whole fucking
bottle into a coffee cup.
Yeah.
And like my brightness was down too, so I couldn't quite see the suit that he was wearing.
And I was just like, dude, like whoever's doing this impersonation is doing a really
solid job.
And then I went on just like I went on Ryan Reynolds social media and saw the video was
posted there and I lost my mind.
Like, it was so bad.
He was working on him.
All the videos, all the banter, the commercials, you know, it was only going to be a matter
time for Ryan Reynolds war Hugh Jackman down to make this.
You know what I'm saying?
I just can't wait to see the angle.
You know what I'm saying?
Because like I said, we didn't get anything but a fuck it.
I know, dude, that's the best part.
That's like I've told Rose and I'm as DJ.
Like I said, I'm like this is like the Golden Child movie.
It could be absolute dog shit, but just the fact that we're getting Ryan Reynolds and
Hugh Jackman playing Wolverine in Deadpool is just going to whatever they come up with
is going to be pure gold.
Oh, it's it's setting the bar extremely high for Marvel.
You know, I'm saying to be put on notice like that, like what other movies are you going
to be able to put out that's going to be on par with that?
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's the the the the the the the participants that I can't even fucking say the word, but
the time it's going to take for that fucking movie to come out.
How is anyone else going to be able to hold a candle to that?
You know what I'm saying?
I know that it feels like this is the peak.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
It's like, you know, Ryan Reynolds wanted to outshine everybody and by playing a person
who he's playing himself as he's playing another person and then to get the iconic Wolverine
back, you know, because we thought we were done.
You know, I'm saying that hasn't been that it's going to be so hard to fill Hugh Jackman
shoes.
Yeah.
Oh, that's going to be ridiculously hard.
I kind of hope that they like obviously, I don't think he's going to be playing Wolverine
through like everything else.
Like I don't think he's going to be part of the live action.
I hope they find some way to incorporate the new Wolverine Wolverine or whoever's going
to play the new Wolverine.
So it's kind of like an official passing of the torch.
Yes.
But like a multiverse stepping in and retaking because, you know, it's like it's so hard.
You know what I'm saying?
And then plus, you know, Sony's got this fucking shoulder grip of knowing able to be replaced
for like, what, four years or two more years or whatever amount of years it has for whatever
contract deal it is.
And it's like five years.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like some ridiculous year.
The thing is, is like, who are we going to get to really pass that torch?
And it's there's so many actors that can be handed this torch.
But the thing is, is can it be handed to a well known actor?
That one, that one I don't, I don't want to see a well known actor get Wolverine.
I want someone that's just coming out from like just coming up.
Yeah.
Like someone that's not super popular, but just someone that can freaking kill this role.
But who's going to have the grit though?
That's the, that's the thing.
Cause Hugh Jackman just has that rugged, dirty grit of what Logan is.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, yeah, it's hard.
But what's funny too is like when it, when it initially came out that he was going to
be playing Wolverine back in 2000, he was not like, he was kind of, I mean, he was known,
but he was known for being like a pretty boy, like a super clean cut pretty boy.
Cause he's been in just a ridiculous amount of romcoms.
Yeah.
Stage actor.
Yeah.
So it's just, and he didn't fit the bill when he was cast and he just like was poured into
the Wolverine role.
Yeah.
It literally poured into the role and like fit the mold so much.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, and him doing the role so much, it's like, you know, how many comics did he
read to understand that?
Okay.
This is who I am.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'll too, I definitely wish they kept to the original saber tooth character from
the original X-Men, but you know, I can't remember his name right now, but he did play
a good saber tooth, but it's still didn't have the look.
Yeah.
That's like the big thing.
It's just like, you kind of have to balance the comic character with like reality.
And I think they just took it a little too far, like outward.
It's just the essence of saber tooth is there, but just not quite.
Yeah.
Because I mean, the, the relationship between Wolverine and saber tooth in the comics is
like super complicated and it's deep.
It is.
It runs so deep.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like hard to separate them.
So it's just like so freaking crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like, yeah, I hope with future MCU installments that that's something that they
explore because that that relationship is, I love that relationship.
Oh yeah.
No, that, that, that, like I said, if you could have a yin and a yang, that's like the
epitome of that right there.
You know what I'm saying?
True hatred, true fucking like cutthroat, no fucks given, you know, back and forth and
they both we heal.
That's the fucking fucked up.
Yeah.
So it's just an ongoing forever bat.
So good.
Yeah.
So, so I'm, I'm hoping that this movie kind of does that.
It like introduces us to our new Wolverine.
Definitely, definitely.
So, but I, I, I definitely love the way you, cause he didn't even really show Hugh Jackman's
face that he kind of just in passing.
Sure.
That, that's just made it even more perfect for, for me.
What if they Steven Seagal's and give us, give us like 10 seconds of them in the movie
and then that's it.
That I'd be bummed out about.
I think they need it.
They need to have like some sort of battle sequence like it, even if he's not like a
huge part, they need a battle sequence or just some banter between the two of them or
maybe even like a fight.
Yeah.
Just a solid cameo will, will make me happy.
Well, like it's almost like we can see, I would even be fine if they like did a little
bit less than what they did with like Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield in Spider-Man,
like a little bit, like if it was just like that end battle sequence, perfectly happy
with that.
As long as there's a little bit of banter, like I'd be happy with that.
Like I said, this is the golden child of movies for me, so it can do no wrong.
Well, we're going to have to come back and we'll probably maybe get a fatal four way
going where you guys DJ and myself come back and we'll talk about that movie when we see
day of.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So that movie comes out in twenty, twenty four.
And I think it's safe to say my excitement level for this is like a frickin twelve dial
turned all the way up and then some.
Oh, but with that out of the way, we can get into this week's awesome headliner where we
break down over the top.
All righty, getting into this week's breakdown.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros and Angry Dad podcast letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others.
And it also gives us a percentage so we can see like an official ranking, which piss some
people off.
I can see how that goes.
Oh, yeah.
We caught some shit for Hocus Pocus being above Age of Ultron last week.
How can you get upset at that because Hocus Pocus is that movie has hit the status of
like, it's the seasonal movie.
It's like Die Hard.
It's like, you know what I'm saying?
It's Charlie Brown's Christmas.
It's a movie that is synonymous with Halloween.
So you can't, it's like, how could you be upset with that?
Yeah, I know, right?
Like that person that messaged us that I was just like, dude, have you even like seen the
movie?
Like, it's awesome.
Yeah.
How bad of a childhood have you had?
All right.
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, just, I don't trust your opinions on movies whatsoever.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, you have an opinion and you're allowed to have it.
Doesn't mean I got to agree with it.
So yeah, if you have not seen Over the Top, you have had a really long time to see it.
So if it gets spoiled for you, it's your own damn fault.
That's it.
Yeah.
So unfortunately, Rose isn't here to give us our Reading with Rose segment.
So I'll be taking over this and reading the synopsis for the film.
Lincoln Hawk is a truck driver who also arm wrestles for extra cash.
Hawk's estranged wife, Christina, who is suffering from heart disease, asks that Hawk pick up
their young son, young son, Michael, from military school and develop a relationship
with him.
Hawk had left them 10 years earlier.
Michael's wealthy grandfather, Christina's father, Jason Cutler, believes that Hawk has
no right to be in his grandson's life.
Michael distrusts Hawk initially and treats him with contempt at every turn.
Over the course of a trip from Colorado to California, the two reconcile and bond.
When they finally arrive at the hospital, Christina has died from complications due
during surgery.
Michael blames Hawk for delaying his arrival and immediately leaves for his grandfather's
estate.
An attempt to retrieve Michael ends with Hawk being arrested when he resorts to ram raiding
the Gate Mansion.
Michael visits Hawk in jail and forgives him but says he feels safe for living with his
grandfather.
As a condition of charges being dropped, Hawk is obliged to sign over custody of Michael
to Cutler.
Hawk leaves to compete in the World Arm Wrestling Championship in Las Vegas, hoping to start
his own trucking company with the prize of $100,000 in cash and a $250,000 Volvo white
tractor truck.
Despite his underdog status, most other participants are much larger including Bull Hurley, who
is the undefeated world champion for the prior five years, the odds on favorite to win again.
Other competitors include John Grizzly, Mad Dog Madison, Harry Bosco, and two-time Canadian
champion Slammin' Carl Adams.
When Hawk arrives, he sells his truck for $7,000 and uses the proceeds to place a bet
on himself as a 20-1 long shot to win.
Meanwhile, Michael learns Cutler had driven his parents apart and had been intercepting
in hiding letters Hawk had regularly written to him.
Stunned by his grandfather's deceptions, Michael steals a pickup truck and drives to
Las Vegas to find Hawk.
Hawk advances to the final eight competitors in the double elimination tournament before
suffering his first loss, injuring his arm in the process.
Cutler, who is also in Las Vegas, summons Hawk to his hotel suite and offers him a chance
for a fresh start, $500,000, and a top-of-the-line semi, even better than the tournament's grand
prize, on the condition that he stay out of their lives for good, but Hawk refuses.
He returns to the tournament with improved focus and advances to the final match against
Hurley.
Michael finds Hawk and apologizes for misjudging him, which gives Hawk the emotional support
he needs to compete.
After a long match, Hawk manages to beat Hurley and wins the tournament.
A triumphant Hawk and Michael take their new truck, cash prize, and gambling winnings
and drive off to start a new life together.
This movie is the definition of 80s montage, 80s heroics, and 80s action because it just
has it all.
The soundtrack, there is so much going on in the background when you pay attention to
this movie.
It's like, what the fuck?
Dude, no joke.
I feel like they skipped over a big portion of this movie, not even talking about how
he teaches Mike how to drive or how to frickin arm wrestle that one punk-ass kid.
Yeah.
Took him down.
I hadn't seen this movie in years.
I remember watching it with my dad and thinking, oh, okay, it's all right.
Watching it as an adult is so much better.
Yeah, it's way, like I said, when you watch it as a kid, it doesn't make sense, but when
you watch it as an adult, you're like, what the fuck?
Like I said, it catches you from beginning to end.
There's barely any downtime in this movie.
That's the crazy part.
No joke there.
It's star studded right off top, because you got Sylvester Stallone.
You have the grandfather who was one of the main drug dealers in Scarface.
John Hurley in the movie Bull, the main protagonist in this movie, he was in Batman Returns.
And then you got Terry Funk.
Oh, was he Bane?
No, no, no.
He was a strong man in Batman Returns and the Michael Keaton one.
It was Michael Keaton and Michelle Pfeiffer in The Penguin.
Oh, okay.
For some reason, I had Bane on the brain with that one.
Well, it's because he's fucking yoked.
You know what I'm saying?
These are all big fucking dudes.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody in this movie is the epitome of Venice Beach weightlifter.
You know what I'm saying?
Everyone's jacked in this movie, but not just jacked, but they're like the round jacked.
You know, like hard working, steel working, truck driving, fucking med men.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't make them like that anymore.
Oh, yeah.
And then Terry Funk was the dad's security guy.
I don't know if you know who Terry Funk is.
Is that the one he kicked through the door?
Yeah, through the window.
Yep, that's it.
Dude, I knew he was going straight through that window or that door.
It was telegraphed.
Oh, yeah.
The way he stood in front, like it's almost like they put on that like little show for
us where he's standing right in front of a freaking glass door.
I'm like, he's going through the door.
Oh, yeah.
Let me paint this picture.
Because I hope he kicks him through that door, which he did.
You know, like I said, this movie right here.
And then one of the other facts about this movie is John Grizzly, the guy who drank the
motor oil and ate the cigar.
Yeah.
All right.
He was a real professional arm wrestler.
And he was also in another movie called Generation Iron.
He ended up sleeping in his van training, waiting for the next movie part.
But the next movie part never came.
But I always remember him from right there, because like when they showed the clips of
him because he really ate that cigarette and really drank that motor oil, it was that was
not effects.
Oh, shit.
Are you?
Yeah.
He really did that.
Like he talks about it in just the small documentaries that have seen him.
He's like, no, I did it.
And then I actually have a friend who is a professional arm wrestler who spoke to him
and he affirmed it.
He's like, no, he really did eat that cigar and drink that motor oil.
He was fucked up, but he did do it.
Oh, man.
Dude, the stuff that frickin arm wrestlers do to get like themselves psyched is insane.
Hey, but you got to get those adrenaline's going.
You got to get those things moving.
You know what I'm saying?
There's technique because like I said, my buddy, Brandon Allen, he was he's been on
my podcast.
He's a professional power lifter.
Start switching over to arm wrestling.
And once you start getting arm wrestling, he's like these small people would just pin
him because of the way the technique is and the way the strategy is.
He's like, you got to take all that into account when you're going.
So like when they do in these fast moves or they're letting you go and then they go.
And it's just like it's so crazy because like everything he said, I would like after talking
with him about professional armwrestling, I'm watching.
Like, man, this movie was pretty much as true as you could be in what Armless Single was.
Yeah, that was something I was looking up when while I was watching it, I was just like,
is it like how important is technique to arm wrestling?
Because I'm like, oh, yeah, there's no way he'd get like Sylvester Stallone against
like frickin John Grizzly.
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying is like that.
That's the thing is like talk with my buddy because my buddy is about as tall as me and
about as heavy as me.
And like like he deadlifts 800 pounds.
You know what I'm saying?
He's ridiculously strong.
He's like I was like I had a professional woman arm wrestler beat me because I thought
I could just do it.
And then when that happened, I was like, I will never be beat again.
He just started fucking slamming arms at me.
So no, I had he had to learn technique.
He had to find someone to teach him.
And once he started learning and like all about the pools and then out and then also
do a how to outlast people because like some of these arm wrestling matches that we're
watching, you know, the course are stretched out to be dramatic.
But that's how long an actual arm wrestling match would take because there is back and
forth.
You know what I'm saying?
There's a little give.
There's a there's a way to lock your arm.
There's a way to position yourself to let the other person burn themselves out to be
able to come back.
And so, you know, after watching, I was like, oh, it's pretty damn accurate.
And the one thing that I loved about how accurate this movie was is how much people were actually
sweating because in every scene, everyone's got that huge sweat stain on the collar and
a huge sweat stain on the back.
And these are all big dudes.
So they're going to be sweating like that.
Everyone was glistening with sweat there in this movie.
Yeah, that's something that I like.
I mean, I think that's more like an effect thing.
Just because I mean, there weren't any real like special effects or anything.
I mean, obviously, if that dude actually drank motor oil, I was going to say like, that actually
looked like motor oil.
But no, like the one thing that I was going to bring up like then is like, at least in
the main or the final bout, they were kind of cutting to different angles.
And there were some angles where they were both like glistening.
And then there was like another one where he looked like he was dry.
Yeah.
What the hell's up with that?
Like consistency people.
They forgot to spritz them right before.
Yeah.
So I definitely like the close up of the eyes because it was just like you could see the
intensity every time they transition because they're like, like everyone was squinting.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, other than than that, I mean, the arm wrestling stuff was awesome, but just
like story wise, like it wasn't too bad.
It kind of gave me I mean, I know this movie's newer, but kind of like real steel vibes.
Yeah.
Where it's just like a father son connecting over.
Yeah.
The montage, you know, because that's exactly what it was.
You know, there's going to be a little back blow.
And as they had it, you could see the development of the them too, after like seeing and going
through because like he tried to run away from his dad.
So fuck this shit.
I'm leaving.
And then, you know, he started slowly opening up.
And then that's what would really happen on a cross country trip.
You know what I'm saying?
You're talking, you're moving, asking questions.
And eventually, you know, that relationship is going to kindle, you know, and that's the
one thing.
And one of the things about like a rite of passage is I've taught everyone of my kids
how to drive.
You know what I'm saying?
And not just drive, but drive a stick.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, hey, come on.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, let's let's do this.
This is fun.
I've every one of my kids have been able to drive since the age of 10.
You know what I'm saying?
And they, you know, can drive.
They can ride around the block.
They can do the park on.
They can park.
They can move.
They can, you know, they can do all those things.
And I made sure that my kids could do it.
But also, too, that was like one of those things that it's a bonding moment that that
strengthens something that that no one else can share.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, if you if you had a parent that taught you how to drive, how much of
a connection was there of happiness and joy?
Like, I'm really fucking doing this.
They let me do I know I'm not supposed to, but they're letting me.
And how cool is that?
You know what I'm saying?
And, you know, and that right there is like that was the main turning point for the whole
montage of them getting to know each other, you know, and then, you know, really getting
a bond and shit.
And then, you know, and then right after that, it was, you know, Hawk, Hawk, Lincoln Hawk
had the feeling of like, oh, we're connected.
Now let me share my arm wrestling with him because he saw me do it.
Now let me instill something in him that's going to make him strong.
And so, you know, when that whole arm wrestling scene was going off where he was beating this
much bigger kid that we can see, you know, and the kid beats him, he runs out like you
wanted me to lose.
You made me a loser.
And then you had the whole speech.
You know what I'm saying?
Tom, you you got to you know, the life doesn't meet you halfway.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to get out there and take it.
And then told you know, I had that father son, you can do this speech.
You know what I'm saying?
And then next thing you know, he fucking boom boom fucking clap that kid twice.
You know what I'm saying?
Fucking double tapped him and was like, bitch, you know what I'm saying?
And then it left a whole that in itself was just an exciting scene right there.
But you got to remember, as soon as that happens, I want to talk to my mom calls mom.
He's talking to my mom and he's fucking getting kidnapped.
You know, he's walking outside to the truck and he's getting fucking kidnapped.
And you know, you know, hawks on the phone like, yeah, you know, talking to his, you
know, his ex wife, like, you know, really getting along, having a touching moment.
And then he hangs up.
He's oh shit.
And he goes out there whoops, whoops, the first two deaths.
You know what I'm saying?
Whoops, the first two deaths.
And then they have a high speed chase.
And let me tell you something right now.
Those big rigs can fucking move.
He was trying to the truck he was driving, they never give you a clear sign of what kind
of truck it's a Kenworth.
All right, that motherfucker will fucking haul, especially when there's no fucking trailer
on it.
You know what I'm saying?
That thing's a beast.
And so, you know, when he clipped that truck, I was like, oh, there's nothing left of that
truck.
His trucks perfectly fine.
You know what I'm saying?
And then it gets out and kicks to, you know, it looked like he had a flashlight in his
hand.
I'm assuming that's what it is, because that's what most truck drivers will have a mag light
to use to tap the tires.
He fucking pulled that out like and those dudes booked there were not sticking around.
He was like, nope, kick their asses, get the fuck out.
Yeah, my dad.
He used to be a tow truck driver, but he'd like go he was in charge of doing like repossessions
and shit.
Yeah.
And he has one of those big ass like honking flashlight that takes like 10 D batteries.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you got to carry one of those bad boys.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I know myself, I'm a truck driver.
I have a class A driver's license.
I could drive fucking anything under the fucking sun.
And like I said, when he was driving that truck, I was like, yeah, I do that shit too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I would, you know, if his son wasn't in the car, he could have just literally smashed
it completely flat because that truck would have not held up.
Yeah.
I liked how it kind of a little bit like this is getting more into like writing or whatever,
but it kind of alluded to the fact that the truck can haul ass because he like when his
son asked him like, oh, this truck's discussed or told him like, hey, this truck's disgusting.
And he was like giving him a little like history lesson on the truck.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I got this thing damn near up to 100.
And then his son interrupted him.
And I was just like, that's kind of good.
Like it kind of gave us a little hint like this thing can scoot.
Oh, yeah.
This thing can move.
You know what I'm saying?
Because like I said, they're meant to fucking haul thousands of pounds.
You know what I'm saying?
They're there to hold tons.
You know that.
And then when they ain't got no trailer on them, you ain't going to see them.
You know what I'm saying?
People actually drag race fucking trucks like that.
I know.
I've seen.
Yeah, that shit's nuts, dude.
Like you wouldn't think like a big truck like that could move as fast as it does.
But I mean, if you sit there and do the math a little bit like, hey, these things are supposed
to have enough frickin torque to frickin pull thousands upon thousands of pounds.
Like you never think like, hey, what happens if you don't connect that trailer?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Like I said, it hauls ass.
And then the other thing too is like back in the day, because his truck is not just
like an older.
His truck is like an old school truck.
And we're already talking about this movie was an 87.
So this his truck must have been made, let's say, 70s, late 60s.
That's the style of truck that he's driving.
Like his truck's a lot older than than what a newer truck is then.
And so it's built different because in that whole scene where he ramped when they said
they rammed the gate, I was like, no, he fucking took out the whole fucking mansion.
You know what I'm saying?
It didn't stop at the gate.
He ran over light poles.
He ran over a fountain and went straight through the door.
And then his truck was still driving after that.
Yep, exactly.
Like well enough to get $7,000 after that one guy.
Exactly.
I definitely like that whole gambling scene.
He's all, what are the odds?
I think he said 20 to one and he was like, let me put $7,000.
And the guy's all, now that's gambling.
So what so the 20 to one, would that be $140,000?
Yeah.
And then plus I think the and I want to say he said the grand prize was $500,000.
No, so the five, so 500,000 was how much the grandpa was offering him to just freaking
scoot out of town.
Okay.
Well, I think the prize for the show was 500,000 too.
That's why he offered it to him to leave right there and then with the new truck.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm looking at the synopsis again.
Cutler or yeah.
Cutler offers him 500,000 and a top of the line semi.
The prize was a hundred thousand in cash and the 250,000 truck.
Okay.
So then right off top, he's, he's still walking away with over 150,000 or $500,000 because
he's got $250,000 truck.
He's got, you know, the $150,000 he's going in for the grand prize and what he made himself.
That was a hundred percent betting on him for that.
Cause that's a good amount of dough to start a business back then.
Yeah.
So he's, he's like right below the $500,000 at least if you're throwing in the cost of
the truck.
Yeah.
That's definitely some good.
It's good money to win though.
Hell yeah.
I mean, if you're going to bet on anybody, you better bet on yourself.
That's it.
And it happened.
And then even to like the whole ending of the movie, you know, like, uh, you know, they
never allude to what happens with the after of the movie, which I definitely would have
liked it ended on a high note, which I loved, but I definitely have that thought of re watching
it now where it's like, what happened with the grandpa and what's going on with the situation
with the family now because obviously he's leaving with his dad, so, you know, hocking
son trucking.
But then in the background, you see the limo with the grandpa back there.
Like what the fuck's going on?
You know what I'm saying?
This dirtbag is fucking try to kidnap him, tried to literally bribe him.
And then, you know, basically like you're going to go to jail for a long fucking time
because of what you did.
So, you know what I'm saying?
The odds were definitely stacked against Lincoln Hawk in this movie, but somehow, you know,
it's like he's still walking away into the walking away and brightening off into the
sunset.
You know, I definitely would have liked the little, little, little closure on that end.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Cause it's like he signed, at least according to the synopsis, I don't think we actually
like saw this.
He signed over his, his rights.
Rental rights.
Yeah.
I mean, he just signed a paper saying that he was going to leave town.
I didn't think he signed over his parental rights.
Cause yeah, that's why, that's why I assume the contract for the lawyer was for.
Yeah.
So, I mean, if that's the case, then his grandfather or Mike's grandfather has custody.
It's just, I'm, I'm, I'm wondering if like in my mind, in a part, like the perfect movie
world, I think it's just, they have some sort of arrangement where he gets like, yeah, visitation
maybe gets to take him on like school breaks or whatever.
Yeah.
That's my mindset.
In movie law, like I said, in movie logic, I accept the ending, but after watching this
movie, you know what I'm saying?
It's like that.
I wish I had that little bit of nugget, you know what I'm saying?
Like a little drop, like, you know, or, you know, like, like I said, it's a happy ending
movie.
Everybody wins, but it's like after, you know, watching it now, just like you said, I haven't
seen it forever.
And I was like, okay, I'm going to rewatch it, watch it again.
And I even watched it again before.
I think I watched it three times yesterday and two times today.
And on the last time I was like, man, you know what?
I wonder what happened at the end.
You know what I'm saying?
But that's just me rewatching something multiple times.
You know what I'm saying?
Now I'm asking questions and not walking away.
Because like the way I always look at movies is I'll watch it at the theater.
No questions asked.
I get it.
And then after when you own something and you rewatch something like, oh man, I wish
I knew that now.
Yeah.
That's how I like to come into these breakdowns.
I always like have the initial watch and that's just me watching as a fan.
And then my second watch is I come in with a more critiqueful eye and then I try to stop
after that.
So I try not to watch it a third time because after that, I think my opinions, I start to
get more and more thoughts like, oh, what about this?
What about that?
And I think the sweet spot's that second viewing watching as a critic.
It's like I think you've missed just enough things for it to still have a decent score
and relatively it is.
Because I mean, at least with me, with movies, I kind of go a long period without watching
the same movie.
So it's like I have that almost like that fresh take.
I think every time I view a movie after the first time is like that second time feel.
So it's just like a little bit like, oh, I had some issues with this, this and this.
But overall, I mean, it is all right.
Oh, yeah.
Now, it's a it's a classic 80s movie right off the top.
You know, this movie is the transition into action hero movies of the 90s.
You know what I'm saying?
This is like on the cusp, you know, say 87.
You know, I'm assuming it came out 87, 98.
And so with it coming out 87 is just like Stallone just doing Rocky, doing all these
other movies and then making that huge transition into it.
Because I think Rambo comes either directly after this or right before this.
I'm not 100 percent sure.
But you know, it's like it's like these are the movies that go unheard and unseen for
a long time.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, this is actually, you know, it's it's it's it's like Sylvester Stallone's Commando.
Yeah, like other than Rocky, because I remember as a kid, I knew I knew Rocky, but I think
this was like the first Sylvester movie that I like sat through.
Like if I'm remembering right, I'm trying to see if I want the filmography is see where
this one puts because it I feel like it's somewhere between Rocky and Rambo.
Because I mean, I feel Rocky is like an action movie.
I mean, it's not like Rocky is an action movie.
Yeah, it's not like classic 90s like blow them up action.
But yeah.
And see if I can pull it up myself.
Let's see.
The top.
Eighty seven.
OK, so his first movie Rambo three came out in 88.
So it's definitely two past two past two past Rambo.
Yeah, yes.
It was 70s.
Rockies, two Rambos and then we are a cobra came out right before.
That's another one of those Sylvester Stallone movies.
It was four Rambos or Rockies, not Rambo.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's a few Rockies before Over the Top came out.
Yeah.
So we got Rocky, we got Rocky two, Rocky three, Ram wait, Rambo first blood.
Where's the that's 82.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
First blood.
Then, yeah, part two, rock led to four, three and then over the top right after that.
Yeah, that's it.
Then Cobra came out right before it.
That's a good one, too, if you haven't seen that one.
Cobra.
Yeah.
Oh, just looking at the poster that looks like that looks classic.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, the bad guy in that movie is one of the best bad guys in the game.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
And yeah, he and he plays the role perfectly.
Man, I'm going to have to check like just do a deep dive into Sylvester's career.
Oh, yeah.
Now he's got to explore everything.
All the classics to all the first ones before he got really good.
Yeah.
Hell, that's what that's what you can come to expect when we have angry dad and Ben on
like it's either going to be Arnold or it's going to be sly.
You know what I'm saying?
Then you get a little bit of Dolph Lundren, some Van Damme, you know what I'm saying?
Steven Seagal.
And Steven Seagal is like my holy grail of action heroes.
It's the perfect amount of cheese and the perfect amount of like arrogance that I'm
like, yes.
Yes.
Like, like it's like that's what I would call the chef kisses of like how I want my action
hero to be cheesy lines and hitting them with kicks.
Oh, boy.
Very I love it.
Like nothing beats like the classic action movies.
Oh, yeah.
It's why I started doing my an action movie podcast and I do it here and there.
But it's like, you know, it always blows my mind how many people listen to it because
it's like a three minute podcast usually.
And people are like, oh, man, you're right.
This and this.
I'm like, see, I know there's people out there like it because I get shamed by everybody
I know.
They're like, how can you love watching this?
I'm like, it's what I grew up on.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
That's like I feel like our whole thing with this podcast, it's like every there's there's
no move.
There's OK.
There's a handful of movies that are just absolutely not worth watching.
Every movie has it's like its value.
And yeah, you can look at those movies and be like, oh, today, like this wouldn't really
work out.
Yeah, it's not.
It's because it didn't come out today.
That it works.
Like if you can go back and like watch it in the eyes of someone that's from the 80s
or 90s, like you're going to have a frickin blast.
Like it's it's cheesy.
It's supposed to be.
It's like frickin 80s and 90s action.
You know what I'm saying?
I know it's make believe, but it looks so good.
Yeah.
Like there are movies that I have like.
My guilty pleasure movies like I forget what year it came out, but like the two that early
2000s Punisher movie.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Frickin love that movie.
I know.
Objectively, I know objectively the movie kind of sucks, but I freaking love that movie.
Yeah, but he because he plays the Punisher correctly.
You know, I'm saying the back story, everything is lined up with the comic book and the versions
of comic book of like war journal and all because like the Punisher is one of my favorite
superheroes.
I've read almost every one of the comics.
Then that's back in a nothing recent.
But like the way he presented the Punisher is how he presented the Punisher has always
been presented ruthless, no fucks given you slighted me.
And now this is who I am.
I'm the best of the best.
There ain't nobody fucking better.
And I'm going to outperform everybody.
I'll take my beatings, but I keep on fucking winning.
And it was great.
Did you did you watch the dirty laundry extended version that they did?
No, I've not seen that version.
Oh, you that is like you could do a mini episode or whatever.
But if you go on YouTube, look up Punisher dirty laundry and because they made a small
clip to try to get the executives to create a second a second one of the Punisher and
that right there was I was like, oh, I rewatch it all the time.
Every time I'm like, I need a little motivation.
I'll fucking put that motherfucker on and next thing you fucking know, I'm fucking all
pumped up.
I'm like, now that's what I want.
You know what I'm saying?
Bring some action like that.
You know, it's like, oh, yeah, it's the shit.
Yeah, Punisher has always been in my top 10 favorite superheroes.
Like my number one has always been Hulk.
But he's always been somewhere around like two or three.
Like he kind of flip flops with Daredevil.
But it's yeah, I freaking love Punisher, dude.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
See, like for me, it's always been Wolverine, the Punisher in Hulk.
And it's always been in that order because it's like the tenacity of never quitting or
stopping the fucking relentlessness of like my justification.
And then just the tremendous amount of strength that the Hulk's always had.
It's just like every one of those characters is like top tier for me.
You know, I'm saying I hold a little special heart.
Like I want to say every month I rewatch the season of the Punisher on because now it's
on Disney Plus and no longer on Netflix.
And so I'll rewatch that.
And then they've already announced or, you know, I don't know if they officially announced,
but everything I read is they're talking about they're getting ready to make a new season
and a movie for the Punisher with Josh, Josh Barrowland or whatever you say his last name.
And then the original Punisher from that earlier one, he's going to be the one that to direct
the movie.
He said, I'll come back.
Let me direct the movie.
Dude, no shit.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just saying it.
Like I said, through the internet buzz that I've read and seen, I was like, that's exactly
what's been asked.
You know, and he's like, yeah, I'm going to do it.
That is if if that's true.
And he's coming back to that would be awesome.
I haven't heard any news like at least in regard to like Punisher.
Like the only thing that I've heard with like Punisher and some of the other like defenders
like Iron Fist, Luke Cage, that their rights, that their movie rights have been transferred
back over to Marvel.
Yeah.
So Marvel owns all that stuff again.
I haven't heard if they're doing any projects with with him, though.
The only the only one that's been just getting the ridiculous amount of coverage has been
Daredevil.
Yeah.
Well, you know, with the whole announcement on She-Hulk, it's just going to be what it
is.
Yeah.
So I'm super excited for that.
And I really hope I despite everyone's feelings with like.
I mean, I love the Punisher.
Like there's no wrong with Punisher.
But despite everyone's like negative feelings about maybe like Jessica Jones or Luke Cage
or Iron Fist, I really liked those actors in that role.
Yeah.
And I think Iron Fist could have been done a little bit better, but.
I definitely felt that could have been done way better because I think they went a little
too overboard with some of the the funk's way of the way they were promote, you know,
having him be.
Yeah.
So I think if they just.
I think if they get like the Shang-Chi writers in and some of those like choreographers,
I think we'd have a damn near perfect Iron Fist.
Yeah, I agree with that statement.
Oh, but anyway, getting back to over the top.
So starting off with story.
Like, where do you where are you thinking?
You're sitting with that.
On this one, I give it an eight, it sits in an eight for me because it is well laid out
for the script.
You know what I'm saying?
Like there's no mincing of words in this movie.
You know what I'm saying?
It almost feels like there's barely any kind of filler.
Right.
So this is out of a hundred.
Oh, out of a hundred.
Then I'm going to I'm going to give it I'll say an eighty nine.
Eighty nine.
It's pretty solid.
I always forget it's out of a hundred.
But yeah, the only ones that are our music and costumes.
Yeah, because we come up like we decided to do that because there were too many movies
that had just fairly average music.
And so it's really hard to give them like a decent score.
And then same thing with costumes.
It's just like it's easier to do one through ten.
And our one through ten, like even like our one through ten, like the one doesn't equal
ten.
Like our one is the equivalent of giving something a forty.
Yeah.
And like even our fives, our fives are like the equivalent of giving something a seventy
five, I think.
So it's it's.
We kind of adjusted it.
So the lowest you can give anything is like a forty.
But we've never had to get enough.
Not that bad.
Yeah.
I'm I'm I'm definitely a little lower than you on on story.
I do think that the story, though, is kind of the highlight.
Of this this whole movie, though, so it is probably.
One of my highest grades.
I think I'm around like an eighty.
Four.
I respect that.
Yeah, still definitely in the 80s, it was like it was a great watch.
I get definitely keeps you like.
In the flow of everything, I think they just move.
Maybe I think it's just.
You think of how I'm going to how to word this, I think they.
It blows by the trip.
You know what I'm saying?
That's where it moves too fast.
Like the beginning you're getting it's all good.
Then it flies by and then we're at the end.
You know what I'm saying?
But everything keeps you engaged the whole time.
Yeah, there's definitely things I feel like they totally like gloss over, like how the
hell Michael got to Vegas.
Like we see him get to the airport and like hide out and like with the luggage and then
he's just suddenly in Vegas.
He got off the plane and back in the day anybody could buy a plane like at that moment in time
it was a free for all in the airport.
You literally just showed up, bought a ticket and got on the plane.
No questions asked.
No one gave a fuck like he could at that moment in time because we keep what we take for granted
how easy it was then and how easy it is, how hard it is now to get on a plane because back
in the day he could literally walk up to the desk.
Hey, I want a plane ticket to Vegas.
Fifty bucks.
Boom on the plane out.
No one would have questioned him.
That's a that's the freaking truth because like airports back in the day like that Wild
West, Wild West, like he stole his grandpa's, stole his grandpa's forerunner and got there
and then was like, fuck this car.
I'm getting on a plane.
Yeah, did he like I must have missed it or something.
Did he actually like buy a ticket?
Well they didn't show that part.
Yeah, like that's what I'm getting at.
Yeah.
The last one in I saw him drop off the car, frickin be like here, take it like or have
it and then the next thing that we see or that I remember seeing is that he's on the
frickin flight line and then he just jumps on with the luggage and takes off.
Oh yeah.
Well, like on on him, he got on the plane because when he got off the plane, he was
coming down, he was coming through with all the other passengers and then he seen his
grandpa's goons and then that's when he came jumping out of the luggage because he was
like he found another way out.
Oh, OK.
I didn't.
Yeah, I missed I missed the part because I'm just like they just totally lost over that
shit.
Well, for that moment in time, that was believable.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how it was back in the day, because like even when I was younger and I want to
probably say around this, that same time error I got on my mom just put me on a plane, no
supervisor, no nothing.
They're like, hey, my son's going from here to here.
Here's his plane ticket.
And then my mom left.
You know what I'm saying?
I flew by myself with my brother on a plane.
Right.
Yeah.
So yeah, other than that, like I said, they're not that I've like corrected that one.
There's definitely things that they just kind of gloss over a little too quickly that I'd
like a little bit more information on.
I would have liked to see.
Especially the kidnapping.
Yeah, like that one.
I would like to see a little bit more like the ramifications of that.
Yeah.
We're just going to get in my car and leave and then totally forget this happened because
that happens all the time.
People are always trying to kidnap me.
So yeah, that's just keeping me from going any higher.
So 84 for story.
Moving on over to writing.
This is where I think that the movie takes a bit of a dive because the dialogue is cheesy
as hell.
I think my biggest issue is when Michael, like in the beginning when he's like, sir
and ma'am to everyone.
And or well, you know, he just got out of military school.
Yeah, I are.
Yeah, like I can't give too much.
It's the the formal way that he went about being an asshole.
Very pretentious.
Yeah, I'm just like you.
You freaking dick.
Like, you know, you don't have to freaking talk like that.
Like when he's just like, excuse me, sir, may I like can I have permission to ask a
question or to say something?
And he's like, yeah, go ahead.
This truck's disgusting.
But also, too, you got to look at his grandpa, his his mom was sick.
He was with his grandpa at all times, so I could definitely see where that rubbed off
on him.
Yeah, for sure.
It's all better than you.
I'll always be better than you.
Yeah.
And then I like how he tried like opening up that dialogue and then immediately hits him
with like when he tries to like not like kind of defend his truck away.
And he's just like, we don't need to make small talk.
He's like, all right.
I just came off like.
A little over the top.
And in the movie, name drop.
Yeah, there was a lot of stuff like that.
I personally, I feel like this whole movie was written around the dialogue of.
Like the world doesn't meet you halfway when like the that armrest when he was arm wrestling
the kid, I felt like the whole movie was like that's the the scene that they had in their
mind.
And that's just what they played off of.
And they're like, OK, how do we like build out from that?
Yeah.
Now, that's the truth, because like even in like all of like the the movies of when you
look this movie up online, that's what this movie is known for in the saying and what
he's saying.
And that's when like nobody in the right mind, anybody that I know who's ever seen this movie
understands that that's not the catchphrase.
The catchphrase happens at the end.
And when that catchphrase hits, that's what this whole movie should have been built around.
But you know, that's just how it goes.
You know, I'm saying I don't know if you know what the catchphrase is, but I'll definitely
say it if you don't know it.
All right, I'm going to say I'm not recalling it like I was under the impression it was
the the world doesn't meet you halfway.
No, no.
Hey, let me tell you right now.
And this he puts he has his hat on.
He's always wearing a hat.
And anybody who watches this movie and quotes this movie doesn't quote that the world doesn't
you got doesn't meet you halfway.
It's like, no, it's like a switch.
And I turn my hat around and I'm like this truck.
All right.
That is what this movie is known about.
It's like a switch.
I you know how many people I know, as soon as we start getting real or start getting
crazy, it's like it's like a switch and they move that hat around.
Nobody gives a fuck about that.
Let's meet me half.
The world doesn't meet you halfway.
It's like, no, it's the hat.
The hat is the fucking that's the known saying.
Oh, dude, that's that was a great line that I'll give you that.
That was a fantastic line.
And his his delivery on it, too, just like like a machine.
It's just like a switch.
Let me tell you right now.
And he every time he moves his hat, his eyes open up all the way and he gives you the crazy
eyes.
So every time he does, that's how you know it's intense.
And I don't know not one person who's ever quoted this movie is like the life doesn't
meet you halfway.
It's like, no, it's like a switch.
Oh, he's like, I love over the top.
It's like a switch.
That's the first words that come out of your head.
Your mouth is like, bam.
I'm like, see, if a movie was written around that saying, you can imagine how much better
it would have been.
Hard to disagree with that.
That that was a kickass.
I'm kind of ashamed.
I forgot it.
I was so focused around that one part being like, oh, that was such a well written scene.
Like I forgot about the best line in the movie.
Yeah, the best line.
It's like a switch.
I'm like, yes, yes.
Anytime I do anything, it's what I say in my head when I spin my hat around.
I think another thing that kind of distracted me from that line was those interviews or
however you want to whatever you want to say.
When they were talking to the arm wrestlers, it was almost like they told Sylvester Stallone
to improvise that line, like what he was saying, because it felt like so jumbled and all over
the place.
I'm like, dude, say something.
And then the other guys were just.
Yeah, I know.
And then the other guys just seemed like really over the top, like again.
But now like frickin.
Bull bull hurly talking like when he gets in the ring, he's like saying like, oh, I
go in the main them and like all this like cripple them and aim them.
I drive trucks and break arms.
I don't know, I was almost half expecting like, you know, that whole thing.
It's like I came here to kick your ass and like chew bubblegum and I'm already all out
of bubblegum.
I ain't driving trucks.
John Griffith, he's my mortal enemy once I step in the ring.
I'm going to kill him.
Oh, yeah, that's what you do.
Yeah.
So I think this this movie had like a significant amount of cheese to it with like a few like
decent decently written.
Some good genes.
Yeah.
So with this, I'm a little lower.
I think I'm like maybe in like the 73 range with it.
It was just cheesy as all hell.
It was I don't want to say it was cringy because it's like it was just a lot, a lot to take.
Yeah, no, no, it definitely was because like like even for myself, I'm at a seventy seven
with it.
You know what I'm saying?
So like I'm in the same realm, but I'm just a little higher.
Yeah, I feel you.
It's Michael seemed to bring it down for me a lot because I think there was just some
weird, weird stuff there.
And I don't know if they established this when he was when he found the letters from
his dad, they were like they seemed like they were all open, right?
Yeah.
It also felt like it was in his mother's living space.
Yeah, no, no, that's that's that is the truth.
You know what I'm saying?
So that just it lets you know that it's either the mom or the dad forcing the mom to not
do it, but it never implies it.
You know what I'm saying?
Because like he opened up a purse and they were all in there.
So that was a little suspicious on how they did it.
Yeah, it's like they didn't like who was keeping Michael away.
Like I wish they would have answered that because it mean first assumption, we think
it's the grandpa.
But then it's like we find all these letters in her space.
Yeah.
And it just.
Yeah, all open.
So she definitely read them.
And then also, too, it's like, you know, like, why would you keep them?
And also, too, why would you like just have him just like he did?
He went to two spaces.
He went to a cupboard and he went to a purse, opened it all up and was like, oh, it's all
here.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, what do you do?
But then also to he left, you know what I'm saying?
So it never implies who's keeping who from anybody if that's what the things that that's
what they're saying.
You know?
Yeah, that's that seems to be that's diving a lot deeper into the movie.
Yeah, it's like one of those things I wish they would have covered a little bit better
because it's like they leave that whole relationship.
Up in the air.
It's like, OK, why did he leave?
We never get a decent response for that.
And it seemed like it seemed like he was saying to the to the grandfather, like, you pushed
us apart and he's like, you know, that's not true.
And then he just like shut up.
So it's like, OK, so it seems like there's some truth to that.
Yeah.
And then.
Yeah.
Then the letters coming from the mother's space, it's just it's confusing.
Like we need some answers here.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying is like a little tie in would be nice.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, for movie purposes, it's like we just got to accept it and move on, which
that's why I like even with the writing, it definitely drops it lower on that end for
me.
You know, it's like that made no sense, but OK.
Yeah, like I mean, if you go into like like we said, if you go into this life with your
brain completely shut off, like you're you're bound to have a much better time with it than
if you go in with a better time.
Yeah.
If you go in with it being like, oh, what about this?
What about that?
It's just come on.
Yeah.
So watch it twice if you need to, but not three times.
All right.
Next up in acting.
Let's see the main cast.
We got Sylvester Stallone, who played Lincoln Hawk.
We have Robert Loggia or Ligia or however you say that, who played Jason Cutler.
Susan Blakely, who played Christina Hawk.
Rick Zumwalt, who played Bob Bull Hurley.
And then the other one, David Mendenhall, who played Michael Cutler.
And also, too, you can't forget the hardcore legendary Funk himself.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah.
He's a little lower on the on the board there, but I always like to mention him because like
I said, it's just he's he's been the bad guy henchman in every 80s and 90s movie.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to say his biggest movie that he's probably ever done is Roadhouse.
Roadhouse.
Oh, that's yeah.
He's looking at all the other see if there's anyone else that like stands out.
It's funny going through these these older movies because it's like you can sometimes
catch some bigger names like yeah, some background character.
Yeah.
Definitely happens.
Like I remember him.
Yeah, it doesn't look like any other like huge names.
Yeah, nothing.
I think like one other person in this movie was a famous writer and band member.
I just can't remember his name because he played with like Santana and played with a
couple of other people.
But I think he was one of the other arm wrestlers.
Oh, you mean.
Oh, was it Bosco?
Yeah, I think it was Bosco.
Let's see, Sam Scarborough.
What was his name?
My Internet wants to work.
That's how it goes, man.
I'm trying to see if I can pop it up myself.
Yeah, it says he's known for Over the Top, The Karate Kid and Eraser.
Doesn't say anything about him being a musician, though.
Oh, I'm trying to see here.
Oh, it's Jimmy Keegan.
He played Richie.
OK.
So he played with Santana?
Yeah, he played with Santana.
He was a drummer, a voice actor.
He did all kinds of other stuff.
Like I said, nothing crazy, but like I do remember him from all that stuff.
Yeah, it looks like he hasn't had anything since 2014.
Yeah, he's just going to be, you know.
Sometimes these guys that just do parts because they know somebody.
Yeah.
It looks like the last big thing he did was Over the Top.
Everything else has been like a TV series where he's like done the English version of
a voice.
And then like one thing where he played himself in a short.
Yeah, that's interesting.
He did some he did additional voices in GI Joe.
The TV series.
There we go.
That's cool.
Yeah.
So let's do maybe top three like favorite actors.
In this one here, this movie.
All right.
Well, mine's right off top.
It's going to be Terry Funk because Terry Funk, like he just has the goon look.
And so he always plays that tough guy either in a suit or in a tank top getting his ass
kicked.
And then I'm going to go Bob the Bull Hurley because God damn, like his role, he wasn't
in much of the movie, but him walking in the way he did in the beginning scene of the first
arm wrestling match, you can tell that something was up with him and that he knew and he was
the one who controlled the situation, even though he's not doing anything.
So he in this movie right here without him, you know, it just looks like Hawk is unbeatable.
You know what I'm saying?
That's just how it feels like the like, you know, everyone knows Stallone's the hero and
the act, the main person.
So it's like, if you don't have someone towering over Stallone, you don't have a movie.
That's just what it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You got to have that formidable bad guy where he questions himself and if he can win or
not.
And so that's why I'd given and then Sylvester Stallone.
So those would be my top three.
This one was tough for me and it's actually more picking my number three was the most
difficult.
I feel like it was my number three tie between David Mendenhall, who played Michael and Robert
Laggia.
Yeah.
But I think like Michael was just fricking aggravating at times.
Well, as child acting for you.
Yeah, and it's difficult to overlook for me, but I think I'm going to give it to Robert
Laggia, who played Jason Cutler.
I think he played like a really decent antagonist in this.
Yeah.
And it's hard because he did play it like maybe overly enthusiastic, but in a way that
made sense because you're watching the grandfather of this boy who practically raised this boy
because his daughter was sick.
And it's like you're getting a lot of different aspects to him where he's dealing with the
loss of his daughter too.
And then just trying to maybe it's like he humbled his heart a little bit because it
looked like there was some look of maybe acceptance when he was watching Hawk in the tournament.
Yeah.
And that when he was winning, there was definitely he had that look of not of defeat, but of
understanding he's won his son back.
You know what I'm saying?
So he's like, he has to accept this now that he's won.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And it's interesting because watching his face in that moment kind of made me really
think about what he was saying to Hawk when he was offering him that deal and saying like
I don't have any family left.
And so it's almost like starting to view Hawk as family.
That might be a stretch for.
Well, it technically be a son-in-law.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just that after he left, he's like you're going to hold a bit of a grudge of like you
abandoned our family.
You know what I'm saying?
And it didn't seem like they got divorced.
Like I said, it's never explained what happened.
You know what I'm saying?
All they say is he left and it's because you made me leave and then he shut up about it.
Yeah.
So it's like even when they were at the hospital, they're just like, oh, your wife has passed
away.
So it's like one of those other things.
It's like I wish they would have addressed a little bit better.
But yeah, so I think I'm going to put him as my number three.
Then my number two, I'm going to give to Bull Hurley as as crazy as he was.
It was just so.
He was awesome.
Like it was hard not to be like rooting for him because he was just cool.
Like I know he was supposed to be like, I know, I know, I know he was supposed to be
the bad guy in this, but he played it off in a way that was just funny and like made
me want to root for him.
Because the way that he's talking about, like crippling him and maiming like, yeah, like
the enemy and I'm like, that's freaking bad ass, dude.
And that's the thing, too, is to beat Stallone, you got to be that guy.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to have that aura around you of like, yeah, nobody will survive.
Yeah.
So how to give him number two and then number one, of course, to giving it to Sly.
I think I agree with that.
I think he did fairly well.
I'm not the biggest.
At least in terms like I like Sly movies, but in terms of acting, I think Sly's very
on the slightly below average, which is a fair statement.
You know what I'm saying?
Which is definitely a fair statement.
Yeah, so that being said, and with all the extras, because the extras just freaking killed
this movie.
Oh, yeah.
Let me tell you right now, that whole end scene, you know what I'm saying?
Talk about putting it on correctly, especially all the other arm wrestlers.
Each one of them deserve the credit that they added to that movie because they gave the
most realistic attitude scene that you could at a competition like that at that moment
in time.
You know what I'm saying?
It was definitely over the top.
It was definitely like in your face, I'm here to win.
Fuck everybody else.
This is what we're doing.
I'm going to beat you.
Yeah.
The title of this movie is just so perfectly titled because it applies to everything.
It applies to the freaking move that he was doing.
It applies to the acting in this movie.
It applies to everything.
Everything's just over the top.
Yep.
Oh, so with that, my acting score is also not very high.
I will put it slightly above the writing though.
I think I'm going to go up to like a 75 because they did a decent enough job for it means
not be overly distracted by anything.
It was just...
I have to give some forgiveness because it's like late 80s.
Yeah.
Definitely.
You know what I'm saying?
I completely understand it because even for me, because like I said, this is the level
of acting that I appreciate, but the kid is what brought me down because just like you
did his acting, every so often it would just like bring the scene down.
Like the emotional back and forth talk of when Hawk was not convinced that he could
beat Bull and they were like, you weren't talking about you.
You weren't talking about me.
You were trying to help yourself believe this.
It like completely killed the scene for me because it was like there.
I was like, all right, all right.
Boom.
And then it just like throttled back and I'm like, that could have been a lot better.
You know what I'm saying?
But like I said, Salon, the extras, everyone carried this movie extremely well.
I was going to say 82, but I'm going to give it an 81.
An 81?
Yeah.
Not bad.
All right.
Next up we got character development, which this is kind of a tough one to do on one character.
I think we can definitely do this on Hawk and Michael.
Yeah.
Together and like they're-
Yeah.
The emotional development between them two was very well laid out.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it started off Rocky.
It kind of smoothed out.
His dad saved his ass.
And then shit went to fucking hell.
And then his son had that realization once he found the letter.
And then like I said, it was an emotional roller coaster of emotions for both of them
because Hawk's unsure, Michael's unsure, nobody knows what.
And they're getting forced into this situation because the mom told him to go get his son.
And then the mom told the general or whoever the corporal or whoever was the headmaster
of the school, no, he's going to pick him up and take him.
And then that's what kicked off this whole emotional roller coaster.
And so there was a good amount of development between them two.
So for me, for the emotional, the character development, I would say a 78.
I would definitely give it a 78 because we got to watch them develop together.
And as much as I didn't like the kids acting, I did enjoy the emotional banter back and
forth.
Yeah.
I thought it was really interesting to kind of introduce this like the father son as strangers,
like more or less.
And just like doing that and then just the resentment that Michael has towards Hawk and
the way that they're able to grow out of that.
And then it just comes to an immediate halt when Michael like starts blaming Hawk for
not being at the hospital when his mom passed away, which is completely understandable.
If you look at Hawk from a distance and you squint, he reacts exactly how a child should.
And so him getting all worked up about that and being like, I should have been here.
It's hard to disagree with him.
It's like, yeah, you probably should have.
But then like you said, when he has that realization of everything that his dad attempted to do.
And it's kind of cool.
Even after he saw those letters, how he's still kind of like wanting to go with his
grandfather because it's more secure.
Yeah.
Like you can understand that decision.
And then it's almost like he felt like he was in a place to choose between his father
and his grandfather.
But then somehow found that middle ground where he's like, I don't have to pick one
or the other.
I can have both.
And I assume, like I said, in the perfect movie world that they were able to come to
that arrangement where they had that middle ground.
And yeah, for me, the character development was fairly, it was around there.
So I might actually go a little higher than you with the character development and I might
be at like a 79.
Okay.
All right.
Moving on over to effects.
No special effects in this movie that we're aware of, but tons of practical effects.
Yep.
At least with like driving and the big semi and all that.
So there was some crazy stunt work with this.
Like the big one that comes to mind is when he comes crashing through the gate at the
mansion and then just drives through a freaking fountain.
They really set that up to happen because like I said, the gate went, the fountain went
and then the mansion went through.
So even with the way it was set up, it looked like it looked and handled like it would really
happen if you drove a truck.
You know what I'm saying?
Because like there was, however they set it up and however they did it, it looked very
convincing and I enjoyed it a lot.
Because I was like, yeah, because that's the one, because I drive truck or I used to drive
truck and I'm like, yeah, a truck would definitely more than handle everything it just did right
there.
You don't say even with the chase scene that they had, I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what
a truck would do too.
I'm like, yeah, if someone was calling ass really knew how to drive, that is very plausible.
Yeah.
And I appreciated the hell out of that.
Like they could have done something like, I don't think they had to go as far as they
did with all of that, but it mad appreciation for doing that.
Like it was nuts.
Like I even like rewound the scene where he was crashing through the fountain and just
to like really study it.
And it looked like it broke apart like real concrete.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, it definitely like, it wouldn't surprise me.
Like I said, you know, they got to use special effects because whatever amount of times they
have to redo it, but I would not doubt it if they did that in one take.
Nope, that was good.
You know what I'm saying?
Because of the way it handled.
Yeah.
I think maybe the one thing that they did do, if anything, and it was just something
that I kind of noticed after like the rewatch, I didn't notice it like the first go around,
but when I rewound it, it kind of felt very, a lot more compact than the shot of the house
that they showed when he was like looking towards it.
So it felt like if they did anything, it's like they set up like a fake lawn for him
to do the run through, which would have made sense.
If that was a real house, you couldn't set up any kind of damage like that.
I definitely understand because that definitely looks like one of those LA Hollywood houses
that it's all like conceptually done and it's very expensive.
So they got to, they can have the, they can use the house space, but they can't destroy
the mockup.
Yeah, exactly.
So I appreciate the hell out of that.
And it's like, it went fast enough where you don't realize that or you can't recognize.
It was the only reason I was starting to think like, oh, is this a set?
Is because I had it paused and started realizing like, oh, it seems like it's like tight and
compact.
Like you're not seeing stuff that's like far away.
It's like really like tight quarters.
Well, you know, recording at night gives you the ability to hide everything else around
you when you do it.
Yeah, exactly.
So, you know, it definitely worked out in their favor.
Because like I said, it looked like even when I was watching it earlier, I was like, yeah,
that looks exactly how a truck would handle in this situation.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they like actually did a lot of this stuff.
Like they're just like, screw it.
Freaking built concrete.
Yeah, with the with the the the guard on that truck, they could hit anything and it wouldn't
have done shit.
Yeah, that was a big deal.
Yeah.
That thing's just a freaking bulldozer.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
You know, and then like even to you know, what you know, you didn't know that when he
ate that cigar and drank that oil, you didn't know you thought that was like, oh, no, no,
it's just no, he that was like on the fly.
He really did it.
Check this the fuck out and did it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's friggin nuts.
So I'm definitely giving some bonus points for that.
I'm trying to think if there's anything like the only other thing that I feel are the only
thing that I can think of that I would maybe dock for was the the sweat in the final thing.
It's just was super inconsistent the way that they were jumping around.
And like you could tell because frickin bull was bald.
And so like a top shot is you can see like it's just a clear mat.
And then like up close and personal, he's like dripping sweat.
I'm like, dude, frickin pick one.
Yeah.
Like someone forgot how sweat there was a lot of sweating in this movie.
That's another thing, too.
This movie was like and like I said, this is just this is like extra.
But like this movie was advertisement city.
You know what I'm saying?
Everything like you get like people, you know, most people won't reckon remember this.
But before both flex, there used to be solo flex and solo flex was like this rubber band
workout equipment and Salon was working out on it.
Everyone had solo flex undershirt.
There was Alka Seltzer shirts everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Budweiser.
There was only saw one Adidas and that was it.
But like this, this, this was like everyone's drinking Alka Seltzer.
I was just like, all right.
Yeah, very, very product placement heavy, especially with the tournament, which I mean.
Tournaments are going to be like that, though.
Yeah, that's exactly how it be.
Like you'll get frickin commercials at at tournaments.
Oh, yeah.
Everyone's got a placard everywhere.
But I was just I just thought it was funny.
I was like Alka Seltzer.
I was like, OK.
Yeah, I noticed that, too, with the.
Like I almost started like the the pop pop.
But everything else was was solid, super solid.
Definitely was.
So I thought it was going to be the story that was my like high point, but I think it
might be the effects.
So my effects are pretty.
Pretty high.
I think I'm about an eighty.
Eight.
Just talking for the like the very few issues that I did have.
And I was like for myself, I was at eighty five, so you actually marked it up a lot higher
than I did.
Yeah, I mean, I'm a sucker for good practical effects.
Like I'm a big sucker.
So I mean, it's hard to argue.
I mean, if you got good effects, you got good effects.
Exactly.
Especially when you pull them off smoothly.
Yeah.
All right, next up, we got music.
So this one's out of ten.
And the soundtrack was pretty bitching.
Oh, yeah.
And the end, Sylvester Sloan got his brother to sneak in a song.
Did he really?
Yeah.
Look it up.
Frank's Frank Stallone did a song on this.
I think it was like Night Bight or something like that.
I don't even know where I would look that up.
I'll tell you right now.
Let me see here.
I went too far.
Music.
So Sammy Hagar, Winner Takes All, In This Country by Robin Zender.
And there's an international version of it filmed with Eddie Money.
I Need Is You by The Big Trouble, Bad Night by Frank Stallone.
And then Meet Me Halfway, which is the name of the song from Kenny Loggins, who is, you
know, that's supposed to be the talking of this movie.
And then you have Gospel Soul by Asia, The Fight by Giorgio Maduro.
I don't know.
Over the Mind Over Matter by Larry Green.
And then Eddie Money coming out.
I Will Be Strong.
So this right here, 80s, basically heavy metal singers all the way around.
And even Frank Stallone got to make a little money on this movie.
That's awesome.
It was a freaking good soundtrack, dude.
It's hard to make an argument otherwise.
It is.
It is because it has nothing but bangers.
And for that moment in time, this soundtrack completely lines up with this movie.
And like I said, I'd give it an eight.
I give it a solid eight because this, it has everybody.
And it has good songs.
And it has hits of the time.
You know what I'm saying?
And plus, when you can show your brother some love and make some money.
Yeah.
So eight is actually exactly where I was sitting with the soundtrack.
I always say that it's always one catchy tune away from perfection.
And that's what this one was missing.
And everything else, it worked really well with the scenes.
Like you said, it was perfectly tailored.
Like it followed the damn movie perfectly.
It's just there was just.
Which it did.
What?
Like I think with this, there's just missing one big song or one catchy song to score a
little bit higher.
It needed to have that one word.
It makes you hum the action scene.
You know what I'm saying?
Or the montage really like it.
That's what captures it.
You know what I'm saying?
Because like you can have a good montage song, but if it ain't got that catchy hook, catchy
tune, it ain't no eye of the tiger.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Do you know there was so during like that the final round with the tournament, there
was a song that kept going through my head and I was almost like wanting it to play,
but it kind of like matched the same tone as like the song that was playing.
But it was like like that.
You're the best around.
Like one of those song.
The Karate Kid.
Yes, that's what it's from.
Gosh, that's been bugging me like all day.
That's what the song that's what that's what it was missing, dude.
That's if it would have thrown that in, I would have been ten.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like it needs that right there.
You know what I'm saying?
Like as he was hitting those last reps in his truck, fucking working that fucking barbell
fucking pulley machine, trying to get that arm strength up, it needed something right
there to like just drive it home.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That would have been perfect.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Next up, we got costumes.
You know what?
This right here, because and I'm not going off it, anybody others costumes except for
arm wrestlers.
All right.
Nobody else.
I'm not considering the son.
I'm not considering the grandpa.
I'm not even considering the goons.
I am only considering costumes in this situation for everyone that participated in the main
event because everyone had the right cut off.
Everyone had the right sleeveless.
Everyone had the right tank top and everyone had Jean short Jean pants or Jean shorts on
as they were arm wrestling.
So and then even to Brough Bull had the leather lifting belt on that definitely would have
been worn during during this match.
You know what I'm saying?
So like I said, I'm not going off any other characters except for arm wrestlers, because
like I said, everybody was wearing exactly what you would be wearing to win to win the
competition here.
Yeah.
It's hard to go off of anyone else in this movie because it's like they were wearing
time appropriate clothing, like nothing too.
Yeah.
Too big about that.
I do kind of want to know why the hell everyone was getting their their underwear in a in
a fricking wad when he was walking and the to pick up Michael and he's like they're all
like looking at him and I'm like he's not wearing anything that's like out of the ordinary.
Yeah.
But also to like he's in a very prestigious military school that cost money.
So everyone here is rich.
You know what I'm saying?
And he's pulling up here in a semi in a sleeveless shirt.
You know what I'm saying?
So that I could definitely see why that is happening because like and the reason I give
it a 10 is because everything they're wearing in this show is what I wear.
I only wear sleeveless shirts.
I cut my shirt sleeveless.
I wear tank tops and I wear shorts all the freaking time.
So like a lot of my style is in breaded and ingrained in those final scenes of all these
big bad ass motherfuckers wearing exactly what I'm wearing.
And I'm even wearing it right now for those who can't see me in this podcast.
I got a sleeveless Hulk Hogan shirt on.
You know what I'm saying?
Because that's how I fucking roll.
And this is what I live for.
Yeah.
Many costume issues that I had were at the beginning when he when they were at the military
school.
And that's just because prior military and I was just like ripping their their outfits
apart like when like when they had like their big graduation ceremony and like first off
their freaking line like their formations looked like shit.
But when he like they had their graduation were dismissed and whatever and they like
threw their hats and he immediately like Michael immediately like wore his cap off center.
And I'm just like, dude, you freaking like if you're a military school and you graduate,
you're not doing that at all.
Yeah, like I mean, hell for the first four weeks after boot camp, I was wearing everything
like my uniforms were crisp.
Like I didn't start by getting a little lax until easily a month, maybe month and a half
after I was at my duty station.
Like my shit was tight.
That's it tight like a tiger.
Yeah.
So like watching their formation like I thought it was like grown up military and so watching
the march, I'm like, their lines look like shit.
Who the fuck is getting these kids to walk like this?
Yeah.
And then I saw I was like little kids and I'm just like, oh, OK.
I mean, still not super psyched about it, but.
I mean, whatever.
Like I can only bitch so much.
But that like that was my like my big issue.
So I mean, that's docking a little bit.
But I was one to ask you to about the the the belt.
Like I know I've seen some people wear those at the gym when they're doing like the the
the heavy lifting.
So I was wondering like if you knew whether or not that was like something someone would
wear at a competition like that.
So I'm kind of glad you know that it's because like what most people don't understand when
it comes for lifting belts is people put on lifting belts and then they wrench them tight
and then feel that that's the only brace that like that's all you need to do is just put
it on real tight.
It's not.
You're you're you are supposed to put it as tight as you can get it.
But there's a breathing technique that that that tightens your core.
So if you breathe in through your nose, when you breathe in through your nose, you push
it into your stomach.
And when you push in your stomach, it expands because when you do when you take a deep breath,
most people only breathe with half their lungs.
So you when you take a regular breath with your nose and your mouth, you're like that's
just it.
But when you through the nose and force it into the stomach, it brings all that air in.
But it tightens your core up so much.
It gives you a it gives you like this stable base of like more leverage and power.
So by having it, you're you're not just bracing it with your back, but you're bracing it with
your stomach.
So it locks your core in to give you that leverage.
You know, it literally makes your body stiffer to be able to do that.
That's why, like when I said he was wearing I was like people would wear that in a competition
because it would give you that that extra strength.
It's the same thing like with squatting and deadlifting with those on you breathe, use
this breathing technique to brace your stomach with that belt.
So then it makes it even a stiffer base, a stiffer core to be able to lift more and to
move more.
So you know, I'm saying he I would definitely see somebody wearing a brace like that during
a match.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially for someone as big as him to be to want to like have that extra leverage.
Right.
So when you when you go to tighten it, is that something like you suck your gut into
tighten or like you try to like tighten your stomach like how you would?
No, no, no, no, you want because you want to use that belt, the front of the belt as
a brace.
So like so like so you know how like so say like you can't see me, but say you have your
hands together and you're pushing one way but pushing the other.
And so when you do that, it tightens the whole body up.
So like what you're doing is when you take that extra breath in, it just it's like reinforcing
the core.
You know what I'm saying?
Because that brace is there.
It's going to support you, but to support yourself even more, the more pressure you
put on that brace, the more power you're going to like gather from it.
So that's why I like like you would tighten it up, but you don't got to like wrench it
to like your your you can't breathe.
You just put it tight enough to where you can get it.
And then that's it.
You still want it to be comfortable.
It just doesn't got to be cutting off your circulation.
That's where people make the mistake is like, I'm going to put it so tight it cuts off my
circulation like no, you want it to have it nice and snug where you can put your thumb
into the belt between your stomach and the and the belt.
You know, I'm saying that you should be able to snugly fit your thumb in there.
You know, I'm saying if you can't, then you might have a little too tight.
OK.
So that's that's kind of cool.
I noticed the belt and like during the whole competition, I just know that that's you typically
used for lifting.
So I didn't know whether like the using it for arm wrestling would have been like applicable.
So that's that's really.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Because like I said, you because you got to remember you're you you're not just using
your arms, you're using the whole body.
So the stiffer and more rigid you can make yourself, it's the more leverage you'd be
able to put into it.
That's that's that's really cool.
I love learning like little things like that, especially like in worlds that I like.
I can freaking tear apart military movies all day long with like those outfits and and
everything.
But when it gets into like different worlds, it's cool to figure out like exactly what
maybe like the costume people are thinking or.
Yeah.
Or whatever with that.
So like you said, it is even at that moment in time, that is the aesthetic.
But it's also it serves a purpose, especially for it.
Because like you said, when you're watching all these people that are arm wrestling, every
one of them's jacked.
You know, every one of them's got huge arms and they're fucking, you know, ready to do
this.
So like every one of them in there is in a gym lifting.
So like that's definitely you know, he knows what he's doing when he just by wearing it
because he's going to go in there and fucking rip.
I'm there to cripple them.
Yeah, with that, though, I don't know where I'm sitting with like the costumes.
I mean, generally speaking, like if I'm taking every costume into consideration, I think
I'm maybe at like a six that like that's just everyone else's.
Yeah, yeah.
But that's respectable because there's not very many costumes.
It's all time period.
You know, I'm saying I like even for me, I take it because that's my style.
Right.
The little bias.
Where were you sitting?
I'm a 10.
Yeah, yeah.
This because like I said, I'm not I'm not there's nobody else in this movie that I see.
I only see the competitors.
I only see the tournament and what they wear hats, sleeveless shirts, tank tops, jerseys,
shorts, pants, workout shoes, lifting belts, lifting gloves.
I'm you know what I'm saying?
Like everything they're wearing is exactly what I like.
You could have plucked me out of that movie or you could even insert me into that movie
and you wouldn't even be told that I wasn't supposed to be in there.
That's how this movie is.
You know what I'm saying?
Like like like I'm the person that belongs in this movie, either in the background or
on one of those arm wrestling tables.
I'm supposed to be there.
You know what I'm saying?
Like what I'm wearing right now, it would blend in.
You're not wrong.
All right.
Well, with my six and your 10, that averages us out to an eight overall for costumes.
All right.
Last up, we got personal scores.
This with a personal score, this is not my go to movie.
This is not my go to Stallone.
This is very low on the totem pole for me.
For my my forte movie, I've seen it.
I have a special place in my heart for it.
It has one of the greatest movie lines in it.
But it this movie sits at an eighty six for me.
I would say that at a personal score, this is an 80 because there's a ton of movies
that I would watch before I watch this.
Right.
I had a pretty decent time with this.
I do have a little bit of nostalgia for this movie because I remember watching it with
my dad growing up.
But I mean, overall, it is a very 80s movie, and those can sometimes be really difficult
to watch.
It's not one that I didn't.
I didn't dislike this movie.
I had a very fun time watching this in terms of just what I would personally give it.
I'm I'm about a 78.
It's kind of just one of those in the middle.
Maybe like slightly above average movies for me.
Just like I said, just personally.
Yeah, no, no, that's exactly that.
That's why I said like even for me, like this this style of movie in this era, most of these
are in the 90s for me.
If I were to score the majority of the of the ones that I like, you know what I'm saying?
Because like there's a few salon ways that I would even hold under this one that I would
rather watch before I watched that one.
You know what I'm saying?
Like like I was never a big fan of Cliffhanger.
You know, I'm seeing it in the movie theaters.
Not a big fan.
But guess what?
I would watch this one way before I watched Cliffhanger.
Yeah.
All right.
But with that, that concludes this breakdown.
So going through the categories, we're starting off story at an eighty six point five.
The writing dropped down a little bit, sitting at a seventy five.
Acting was up a few points, so it's sitting at a seventy eight.
Character development averaged out at a seventy eight point five.
Effects frickin shot this up, sitting at an eighty six point five.
Acting costumes were at the exact same score, sitting at an eight.
And then our personal score averaged out to an eighty two.
So with all those, the final All Bros and Angry Dad podcast letter grade for over the
top has come to a.
B minus.
Hey, that's not too bad.
That's not too bad at all.
There's a lot of people going to be mad.
You guys are going to get a lot of emails on this one.
And they can bitch all they want.
Doesn't change our score.
Oh, yeah.
So let's let me pull up the our other B minus movies to see where this.
Ranks.
If Rose was here, it'd probably be a little lower.
It might be a little bit lower.
See what happens when you get sick, Rose.
Yeah, I don't know if it would have been too much lower.
I mean, I don't think he hates like 80s action movies.
All right, let me see if I can find it.
It's like progressively getting more and more difficult to find the movies on this.
It is definitely one of our.
Our higher B minus movies.
Oh, yeah.
Let me find it.
You ever seen Stop Where My Mom Will Shoot?
What?
No.
No, you got to watch that.
They stop where my mom will shoot.
You've never even heard of it.
No, it's a Sylvester Stallone movie, bro.
Definitely not one of his better known ones.
One of the one of the Golden Girls is in the movie.
No shit.
Yeah, it's not that you have to put that on the list.
Arnold Schwarzenegger had a big a big funny story about it because he is like he was offered
the movie for Stop Where My Mom Will Shoot and he told one of the directors, the agents,
give this to Stallone, tell him that I'm I mean, I'm in running to get this and offer
it to him.
And so he took it.
Because so less are because Arnold was supposed to get it.
And so it got filmed with Sylvester Stallone off of a gag.
That is freaking hilarious.
Oh, you think that's hilarious?
The movie is it's a gem, bro.
It is a gem.
If you have not seen it, I definitely recommend it because you're going to be like this takes
it too far.
That is funny.
Like what?
Yeah, well, when we get done here, watch the trailer, bro.
You're going to be like, oh, what the fuck?
It's perfect.
Here we go.
I think.
Yeah, what the hell?
It's like putting it in order, but it's like not including over the top.
I'm being freaking stupid.
The internet's not working.
The computer's like that.
I'm a fucking caveman when it comes to computers.
You like it?
I can figure this out.
Yeah, it kind of makes me feel like I may have overcomplicated our platform.
I'll tell you right now.
I'm like, I'm good for one tap, but I made the exception.
Yeah, I created the Excel sheet that we use.
We put our scores in on one tab so we can put, like me and Rose can put our scores together
and then that connects to a different sheet.
That was where it takes our final score for that movie and then whatever the final grade
and percentage for that movie is, it puts it on a completely different sheet.
It's just a big old mess of everything.
Of sheets.
Well, you're speaking to someone who doesn't use Excel at all.
It's a good time when it works.
Oh yeah.
I've been on Excel TikTok a few times where I'm like, why am I trying to learn this?
What the shit?
I have it set so it's not supposed to like, it only filters the B minus movies.
So you can only see it.
So I cleared it out just to see if that would work, but then it's like over the top is the
only one I can see now when it's not supposed to be popping up.
I'll just fricking guess where this is supposed to go.
So over the top is sitting at an 82.06%.
So that puts it above It Chapter 2, which is at an 81.95%.
In your face, It.
It is above Rogue One, which is at an 81.93%.
It is also above The War with Grandpa.
It's above The War with Grandpa, which is at an 81.93%.
It is above Spiral, which is at an 81.93% as well.
There's nothing on acting on Sloan.
Let's see.
It is above Being the Ricardos, which is at an 81.87%.
And then finally it is above The Bad Guys, which is at an 81.81%.
There we go.
Then go in the opposite direction.
It is below Thor, Love, and Thunder, which is at an 82.06%.
So it barely beat out Thor, Love, and Thunder.
Like seriously by.02%.
Let me tell you right now.
I'm glad it did because the 80s movies rules.
Let's see.
It puts it below The Magnificent Seven, which is at an 82.12%.
Puts it below Ron's Gone Wrong, which is at an 82.31%.
It's also below Let's Be Cops, which is at an 82.37%.
And then finally it is below Chippendale Rescue Rangers, which is at an 82.43%.
I respect that.
Yeah, so it's some tight frickin margins there.
Very tight.
Yeah, so the difference between our top B-movie, so our top B-movie is The Greatest Showman.
So it's over the top is not even a full percentage away from that movie.
Damn.
Like it's close.
It's like right there.
So close.
Like even what some of our lower...
Let's see what other movies this beat out.
Like older movies.
Yeah.
Oh, this beat out Top Gun?
Hey!
You know what I'm saying?
That lets you know to go watch over the top.
Yeah, Top Gun, so it beat Top Gun by 2%.
That's pretty decent right there.
Yeah, that's not half bad.
That's the only other like older movie that it has.
Well, let me tell you right now.
I think it's a pretty decent B-minus for a more lesser known Salone movie.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, definitely.
All right.
Well, that wraps up this week's episode and breakdown.
So Ben, would you like to tell everyone where they can find everything that you do?
Hell yeah.
I'm the angry motherfucking dad.
You want to watch my shit?
IGTV, YouTube, one of those good speakers, SoundCloud, Stitcher, Spotify, Google Play,
Apple Podcasts, Podbean, SoundCloud, Deezer, iHeartRadio.
My shit is everywhere.
And this is the All Bros.
So guess the fuck what?
You can find them on every platform out there.
Hell yeah.
We are on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.
And TikTok has been doing pretty decent so far.
So we will continue doing that for the foreseeable future.
Yeah.
Other than that, I feel like I had a little thing, but you pretty much covered it.
Yeah.
Make sure you rate, review, and subscribe, everybody.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Next week or so, every...
I'm freaking messing this one up.
We will be linking everything that Ben does in the episode description.
And next week...
Oh shit, I forgot the movie we're doing next week.
One second.
I put it in the outline and I thought I didn't need the outline anymore.
So I was like, all right, and close.
Oh, balls.
That's it.
Oh, freaking hell.
I don't know how I forgot this.
So next week, you guys can look forward to us breaking down a movie that was damn near
made for us, Bros.
I don't know how the hell I forgot that title.
So yeah, that's what you guys can look forward to.
That'll be an interesting one.
Oh yeah.
We're excited.
Like as soon as we saw a movie that was like...
I forget who...
If I saw it first, it was either me or DJ that saw the title of it and was just like,
oh, we have to break this down.
It's in the freaking name.
Yeah, it's a mandatory.
Yeah.
So we will be breaking down Bros. next week and hopefully Rose will be feeling better
by that time so he can actually do this episode because this movie was made for us.
Made.
Yeah.
So you guys can look forward to that next week.
But until then, this has been the All Bros podcast featuring the great Ben Bollman from
the Angry Dad podcast.
And we will catch you guys next week.
Adios.