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We got a poster that we want to talk about that leads into a trailer that we'll be talking
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And possibly this week.
Oh yeah, that's true.
Okay, so we'll get into it, but yeah, continue.
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Alright, so starting off with Through the Wall, actually today, October 4th we got our
first official poster for the Super Mario movie coming to us from Illumination and Nintendo.
This is a lead up to the trailer that we will be getting Thursday the 6th.
So I mean, it will of course already dropped after we record this episode, but let's talk
about it.
Yes, so what I was saying earlier about possibly talking about it is depending on Rose's schedule
on Thursday, we might record a little bit about the trailer and then just kind of like
stitch it in because magic of editing.
And so honestly, dude, I will seriously make it work.
I think we should definitely do it.
So you might hear that in here, but right now what we're talking about is the poster
and I don't know what I was expecting with the poster.
I don't know if I was expecting something stylized or what, but the fact that we got
a damn near video game accurate Super Mario world at least is awesome.
What's fun, like poster is so yeah, it's like Mario facing the Mushroom Kingdom and me and
Kale were just like, yeah, you know, Mario looks amazing.
Well, at least the back of him.
We don't know what the front looks like.
Yeah, that's going to be the case.
I'm really, really hoping that he actually, Mario looks like freaking Mario because I
have a feeling that Nintendo really put their foot down with illumination and said, yeah,
no, you're not making freaking, I don't know if Waluigi or like Wario are going to be in
this, but like we're not going the direction of like Waluigi more.
So looking like a grew rip off and then Wario looking like a F. What was that?
Despicable 22 villains care mucho something.
Oh, I don't remember the names.
I feel like his form.
That's what like illumination would make Wario out of.
I don't doubt that.
So yeah, I am very glad that Nintendo has stepped in and given them as much hell as
I assume that they they would have.
Like I don't know if Wario and Waluigi are going to be in this movie.
I would love that.
But that's just like the only examples that I could think of that.
Like if I'm thinking of Mario characters, but also established illumination characters
that they could base their designs off of, those are the two that I would think of grew
as Waluigi and whoever the villain was in Despicable Me 2 as Wario was like the first
two that come to mind.
Yeah, I think.
I think illumination didn't have a whole lot of say on character design.
Good.
So and this is this is going to be weird because we this is just assumptions on our part for
right now.
We just assume that Mario looks how he's supposed to look.
We don't know.
The only faces that we've seen are those of some of the Mushroom Kingdom people like the
toads.
The toads.
Did we see any goombas in the poster?
I did not see any goombas.
OK.
It was mostly just toads.
Yeah.
So I think the biggest sell for this and this is going to be interesting because we've never
heard anyone up anyone's voice come out of Mario other than the guy who voices Mario.
So when we get the trailer on Thursday or when we talk about it, it's going to be the
first time we've ever heard a voice other than the guy who voices Mario.
It's going to be so freaking weird.
I know it's going to be super weird and I'm probably going to have to.
I hope we get clips from other people, too, because there's a lot of voices that I'm like
a little concerned about.
Like the biggest one is Mario and Luigi.
See, like everyone's just like, oh, yeah, I have to hear Chris Pratt.
I had to Chris Pratt.
I really am.
I got to hear Charlie Day as Luigi because I'm so used to hearing Luigi kind of have
like not a monotone, but a much lower voice than Mario.
But yet in the casting, it's flip flop, Charlie Day has way higher of a voice than Chris Pratt.
Yeah.
So it's going to be very interesting if if Charlie Day didn't like disguise his voice
at all or deepen his voice and Chris Pratt's is like not really doing it either.
That is going to be very interesting hearing a higher voice coming out of Luigi and a lower
voice coming out of Mario.
And the voices that I need to hear on Thursday are Mario, Luigi and Donkey Kong and Bowser.
No care about Princess Peach.
Princess Peach is being voiced by Anya Taylor Joy.
I think she has a good voice, like no matter what she decides to do with her voice, like
if she decides to keep her normal tone cadence, I think that voice could work really well
for Peach.
Or if she wanted to go a little like airy and like higher pitched, just kind of tone
her voice up, just like like I said, go a little like maybe breathy with her talking.
I think she could pull that off as well.
So I'm not too concerned about Peach.
It's just Seth Rogen voicing Donkey Kong is a little like not sure how I feel about that.
All I ask is when he beats his chest.
Do what?
No, when he beats his chest, he has to go, uh, dude, if that doesn't happen, I'm going
to be pissed.
I am too.
I don't care if that's not what the character does.
Like it's Seth Rogen.
You have to put in his iconic laugh.
Yeah.
So let's see.
I'm not too concerned about Diddy.
I would like to hear.
I mean, I'm sure we will, but I would like to hear Toad just, but that's just because
I want to see what Michael or Keegan Michael Key does with Toad.
It's not really because I'm concerned about the voice.
I think the voice casting was spot on.
But yeah, it's Mario and Luigi that are my big concerns.
I feel like the one that I'm like the least worried about actually is Jack Black is Bowser.
I know that same with me.
It's like, I'm not necessarily concerned about it.
I just want to hear him.
Yeah.
Like that, that, I don't know, like you never hear like really Bowser speak.
It's mostly just roar, but like I know Jack Black, that, that kind of just makes sense.
Yeah.
Like the most we've ever heard from fricking Bowser is just, yeah, exactly.
Imagine that that that's all that he said.
That's all the Jack Black says throughout the movie.
That's what they pay him for.
I've been so on the fence, like thinking about like what, how I want to hear Jack Black.
Because I, it's like, I don't quite want it to be his like real voice.
Because then it's like, I would feel like I would almost be hearing Po from Kung Fu Panda.
Fair.
So it's like, I kind of want them to do some sort of alteration to his voice.
Because I think he has like a raspy tone to his voice that like makes him perfect for
Bowser.
It's just, I kind of want some slight alteration.
Maybe like pitch him down a little bit.
So it's a little deeper or, or something or more like gutter roll.
So yeah, that's, that's what I'm hoping.
But from the poster, it looks as frickin accurate as you can get.
And I love the realistic texturing, unlike what they have done with like the minions.
Yeah.
Like hell, the frickin overalls look as good as they did.
Actually even more good as they did in like the Super Smash Bros games.
Yeah.
They're freaking amazing.
Yeah.
So.
So yeah, I'm excited to see what we get with this.
Yeah.
And so that first trailer.
That's yeah.
If the trailer releases, I will insert our conversation about that right now.
All right.
So it's been two days and by the magic of editing, it's only been like a second or two,
but we just got done watching the Super Mario trailer.
And dude, the animation alone is fucking incredible.
It is so, oh my God.
It is so free.
It looks amazing.
And they did exactly what I thought they were going to do with Bowser's or what I wanted
them to do.
They like took Jack's Black's Jack Black's voice and like did some sort of like deepening
to it.
So you can still tell it has like that that that hint of Jack Black in there, but doesn't
sound like exactly like Jack Black.
Like they just deepened it enough for it to be like legit Bowser.
Yeah.
Do we want to get straight to Mario's sounds or should we save that for the end?
I mean, we can talk about it all.
Like did you have like it is weird.
I will say like hearing Chris Pratt's voice come out of Mario, but it's it doesn't sound
bad.
Yeah, but I feel when they're when him and told are starting to run towards the Mushroom
Kingdom, you do get a little bit more of an accent when he says Mushroom Kingdom.
Here we come.
Yeah, just like a hint of one.
And I think that's all he needs.
I agree.
So I mean, I definitely want to hear more to make my final judgment, but I don't hate
it.
I will say that I do not hate it.
Yeah, neither do I.
And I know you sent me a tick tock yesterday or last night about like his design.
His design looks great.
I don't know what people are bitching about.
Yeah, I agree for up upgrading Mario, not only Mario and also Luigi for how they look
in this movie.
I think it really, really works for the direction that they're going with this.
I mean, a lot of the other characters look like they were straight up ripped out of the
video game, like especially Bowser.
Oh, yeah.
Bowser and Toad like literally look like they were just ripped right out of the video game.
Mario and Luigi in the face definitely do look a little different, but I feel it definitely
works here.
I have no problems.
Yeah.
I mean, they don't even look that different.
I mean, we didn't get a real clear viewing of Luigi.
It's nice to know that he's going to be like in this and it's not just like some small
role or anything.
I honestly didn't think that we were going to get Luigi at all.
But then, yeah, the whole like him running away, screaming from dry bones is.
Yeah, that whole scene just solidifies to me.
Yeah, Charlie Day was a really good choice for Luigi because I kind of forget how much
of a scaredy cat Luigi is.
Yeah.
So I mean, it worked out beautifully.
And I will say that I think the voice I had the biggest issue with, unfortunately, was
Kegan-Michael Key's Toad.
Really?
It sounded odd.
I can't I don't know how to explain it, but it just sounded odd.
I kind of dug it.
I don't know.
I like what he's doing with it.
I mean, I like Michael or Kegan-Michael Key's voice, but something was just off about it.
I can't quite it's like they they try to pitch it up a little bit.
And I'm like, I don't know if you need to do that.
I don't know.
I'll fully admit it would feel weird hearing just his regular voice coming out of Toad.
Yeah, I mean, it's fair.
It's fair.
I mean, I will get more of it eventually, but it just felt a little off.
The humor in this, they are frickin nailing.
Yeah.
Frickin Bowser with the I never really played the sixty four version or play I think played
any Mario games where the blue penguins are in them in it.
Have you played any?
So I played the sixty four the penguins.
Trying to see if there's like what the penguins are called.
They're called Tuxy.
Or no, that's a that's the baby penguins name.
OK, I don't know what this penguin is called.
It's just the penguins.
Yeah, but yeah, they were frickin hilarious, dude.
I'm already a sucker for situations like that where you think it's going to be some epic
battle and then it's just like this where he's getting pelted with snowballs and he's
just kind of like shrugging it off.
And it's it's usually like the way that it's usually played out is are the I like like
them played out is when they keep attacking and then they realize that their attacks aren't
doing anything and they're like, oh shit, and then they get frickin wrecked.
I love that they frickin double down.
That is but a taste of our fury.
Do you yield?
Dude, I frickin lost it.
I was great.
Yeah.
And like, I'll fully admit, like I completely fell for this being like, oh, this is like
going to be some epic battle between Koopas and Peng and then they frickin cut to and
Bowser's just standing there.
I I laughed my ass off and that scene is that seems probably going to get me when the movie
comes out.
Same here.
Same same here.
Oh, dude, Bowser's Castle.
Dude.
Oh my God.
It looks so cool.
I think they I think I saw somewhere they've spent like, was it like six, seven years animated
this movie?
Yeah, it's been seven years in the war.
Like this is we heard rumors about this movie before we even started the podcast.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Wow.
I mean, it's really showing in the animation because oh my God, it is like and this is
not me just saying, oh, like for illumination, it's breathtaking.
Like any animation studio, this shit is breathtaking.
Yeah.
I mean, and then it seems like they have the movie done, which is great.
Yeah.
Like so did you watch the live stream?
No, I didn't.
So I was I was looking it up like right out at one oh five or not one oh five.
I love it.
Technically, four or five my time.
Yeah.
So I was like on YouTube, I typed in the Mario and then it had the Nintendo doing a live
stream and I'm like, hell yeah.
So I turned that on and it was just kind of in like like a wait, wait for it.
And then they had like a little introduction from the Nintendo creator and the head of
illumination and they had like a little conversation and they're like, all right, like here to
introduce the trailers, Jack Black and Chris Pratt and then they had like their own little
spiel and then right after that, they played the trailer and it was awesome.
I'm so excited for this.
They like, oh, I'm sold.
I am absolutely sold.
I am too.
I think I'm sorry.
The only thing that I'm not sold on is just Chris Pratt's voice.
I'm just going to have to hear it just a little bit more.
That's completely fair.
I, even though I've only heard him screaming, I'm already sold on Charlie Day's Luigi because
that it just fits the character's personality too well.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
I'm excited to see where they take this, the Easter eggs that we get, because like he said,
this movie is just going to be jam packed full of Easter eggs.
That's awesome.
Yeah, so he's like, we're taking stuff from like generations of Mario and trying to give
something for everyone in this.
So that's awesome.
This is fantastic.
And gosh, I like they can do some, if this turns out to be a good movie, which from the
looks of it, it seems like it's going to.
Like I'm just going to call it now.
I'm willing to bet this is going to be a BB plus movie minimum.
I could see that.
Like that's my guess.
I'm not going to like force it to happen, but that's my guess.
If it ends up being worse, it's worse.
But if this movie is as big of a hit as I think it's going to be, we're going to get
more Mario content.
I really want this movie to be as successful as the Sonic movies have been.
I do too.
I was watching, I watched Sonic the Hedgehog 2 this morning.
Just like did a rewatch and Iris was just like totally invested, especially with Knuckles.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And so yeah, it's like I, it was kind of an anticipation.
Like I wanted to watch like a video game movie, but I wanted to watch a good one.
So I watched, so I watched it.
Yeah.
That one.
And yeah, I got, I have very high hopes for, for this movie.
Same here.
And it's beautifully shot.
So like, oh my God, I can't say enough about the animation.
Like holy shit.
It's freaking gorgeous.
Yeah, animation alone puts this like super fricking high.
Like even if the movie sucks, at least it's going to look good.
Yeah, dude, straight up.
But I'm excited to see this and I hope they, I know that like Mario is usually like mushroom
kingdom and all that.
But I kind of hope that they explore like my favorite Mario game, like the universe
that he goes to.
So my favorite Mario game is the superstar saga.
It was on the Game Boy Advance.
I'm not sure if you ever like saw it or played it.
I have not.
So like it's, it's not like a, like a platformer like most Mario games are, or it's like, it's
hard to explain.
It's kind of like, it kind of has an open world feel, but it's like Mario and Luigi,
but you're controlling the group or the two of them.
So it's like whoever's in like the front.
So like Mario can be in front or Luigi can be in front.
And it's like one of them's following the other, but you could, you have like the A
and B button that can make Mario jump or makes Luigi jump.
And then they have like a turn-based fighting or combat style.
Like when you, so it's kind of like, kind of has like a Pokemon feel.
Like if you get hit by an enemy, you enter like combat mode and then it's like, you can
choose like attack or an item or like flee and different stuff like that.
And then you have like combo, it's, it's a great game.
But in that they enter or they go into like, I think it's the Bean Kingdom.
Okay.
Like Princess Peach is traveling to the Bean Kingdom for like negotiations and stuff and
freaking Bowser and all of them get like attacked by the shocker.
Yeah, by the big bad in that movie.
It's really good.
Or in that game.
So great game.
I'd love to see that kind of adapted into this style.
That would be cool.
Like just possibly, but hopefully this movie does well.
I really, really hope it does well.
And comes out, it comes out in April, right?
Okay.
So that's like really freaking soon.
Yeah.
Like right now, like what, at least from what they said, they're currently work or as of
today, the animation is 100% complete.
But what they're working on is lighting and compositing.
Okay.
So I know what lighting is.
I'm not quite sure what compositing means.
Yeah, I don't either.
Let me, let me look it up real quick.
Okay.
What is animation compositing?
Oh, compositors create the final image of a frame shot or sequence.
They take different digital elements like the animations, background plates, graphics
and special effects and put them together to make a believable picture.
They are responsible for the composition of the image and shots.
Okay.
So they're the ones that like take the animations and make it into a movie.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
So the way that I like imagine this and like if anyone's in the animation world, like correct
me if I'm wrong, but it kind of seems like they take like, it's kind of like the, the
people with like the, the, the camera, like how they shot Lion King, where it's just like
the animation, like at a distance, you can see how it's like animated and what they're
doing and it's like the compositors are the ones that like come in and like shoot the
movie.
That's what I imagine.
I don't know if that's actually how it is.
Dude, your guess is as good as mine.
But yeah.
What scale one to 10, what do you think?
I'd say I'm at an eight right now.
That's actually like right where I'm at too.
Sweet.
I'll, I'll be a little bit higher once we see a bit more.
Yeah I'd say probably after a second trailer, I'll probably be at a nine.
Yeah.
Man, unless like the second trailer just sucks, which I don't think that's going to happen.
I don't think it will either.
Yeah, I'm actually, I might with with this and like the concept that they're going with,
I actually might be worried once they start introducing like Donkey Kong and and all the
other characters that they're supposed to have.
Fair enough.
Because it's, it kind of gives me that like, oh, it seems like it might be too busy.
Yeah, that's fair.
Like, let me see real quick what the cast looks like or who we're supposed to get.
So I mean, it, I guess it's only Donkey Kong.
What that we haven't heard yet?
Yeah, at least from what I can tell.
Well, Donkey Kong and Peach.
Yeah, yeah.
Two biggest we haven't heard yet.
Which I already said, Anya Taylor Joy, I kind of I'm not too worried about.
That is fair.
That is absolutely fair.
Geez, I'm trying to find the freaking IMDB for this page.
I can't freaking find it.
All right, we got Luigi.
Okay, so yeah, I guess it's just Donkey Kong.
Donkey Kong and Cranky Kong.
That we haven't seen yet.
I didn't even know that they were including Cranky Kong.
I didn't either.
I thought he was playing Diddy.
Yeah, I'm kind of stuck.
They didn't.
You know, it's weird that they're including Cranky over Diddy, but whatever.
Yeah, let me just double check to see like the more detail.
Yeah, it doesn't look like.
Okay.
So, okay, the inclusion of Donkey Kong.
You know what?
I'm wondering.
So this is my guess for how this is going to happen.
I bet Mario is in the world where he's like facing off against Donkey Kong a lot.
Where he like, because you know how like in the classic Mario games, it's like.
Oh yeah.
Kind of like different.
Like it's like steel piping and all that.
And he like has a hammer.
So I'm willing to bet Donkey Kong and Cranky Kong are either like are at the beginning
before he travels to the Mushroom Kingdom.
And then like.
I could see that.
And then I bet freaking Toad comes, gathers Mario, and then Luigi comes and sees him,
gets transported to this magical world.
And then Luigi comes, jumps down, gets transported to the magical world too.
But maybe like takes a wrong turn in the piping and ends up with like where all the dry bones
are.
Yeah.
Okay.
I would love that.
So I'm freaking making that call right now.
That that's gonna gonna happen.
I like it.
And then someone from Nintendo is going to hear this and send like a cease and desist.
Shit we gotta change it now.
Yeah.
But I'm pumped.
This looks a lot better than I assumed it was going to.
Same here, man.
And exceeded my expectations.
So good times.
Yes.
Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled episode.
So yeah, getting into Black Panther.
Yes.
Do you have your tickets?
Not yet.
But I'm not concerned about it because I've never had an issue getting tickets for like
Thursday night.
I haven't either.
And that just shows how people still are not ready to go back to the movies.
Well, that's not necessarily true.
Because so okay.
Like with Spider-Man far from or no way home.
The I was able to get tickets like I think the week before the movie came out.
Yeah.
Because I went to the movie at like three.
Okay.
And so when I came out of it, it was around like five five thirty six ish.
And so when I left the theater, it was packed.
Okay.
So and that's kind of been the case with other movies that I've done this for, where I'll
go in and see it on a Thursday like the Thursday before release day.
Yeah.
And then when I enter, it's like dead inside.
But when I leave, it's packed.
That's fair.
I still can't believe how early they make Thursday showings now.
I know, right?
It's freaking awesome.
Especially for someone that works on the weekends.
That's fantastic.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, I absolutely agree.
Yeah.
Same here.
I hate it.
I've done that with like like the movies that I've gone for on opening night for like it's
always been that way where it's like completely dead when I go in and packed when I come out.
And it's freaking great because even on Mondays, too, because you like you would think that
Mondays would kind of be open, but Mondays usually all day, the theaters are packed or
close to full.
See what?
See when I went and saw like Bros yesterday, theater was pretty dead on honestly.
And you know, I was just in general.
Yeah, just in general.
I mean, I was in I mean, I went and saw the was it the 530 showing of the movie?
Yeah.
And I was the only person in there.
But you know, I'm not going to talk about why I think that is.
That's just Utah shenanigans.
Yeah, that's you know, that just shows how you know, far some states have come with,
you know, LGBTQ LGBTQ plus inclusion.
But anyway, I digress.
But yeah, it was really freaking weird, like usually I'm used to Monday, like even like,
you know, like because I got out of the movie at like hell, what was it like?
Like eight because it was like a two hour movie.
So it's like close to eight when I got out.
Yeah, barely anyone in there.
Parking lot wasn't full.
It was really weird.
Shit.
Yeah.
Like usually it's around like six or seven, maybe where theaters will start getting a
little bit more traffic.
But maybe it's just people don't want to go to the theaters now.
Don't say that.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
Like it can totally be that.
Or maybe they just thought if they went to the movie theater at this specific time, they
people would assume they were going to go see Bros.
People need to go see this movie because it's getting a very disappointing box office so
far.
It makes me sad.
Yeah.
The movie's freaking spoilers.
It's good.
And Caleb's got quite a story with his.
Oh my gosh.
Should we save that, though, for the headliner and like actually like talk about Black Panther
too?
Or do you want to say it now?
I mean, we're talking about it now.
So why not?
OK, we'll get it.
Sorry, Panther here.
No, you're good.
We'll talk about Black Panther here in a second.
But yeah, so when I went to see so I went to see Bros. today and so when I went in, it
was like completely dead because I went at like one thirty.
And so it was like, it really shocks me on a five dollar Tuesday.
I know, right?
Well, it's also everyone's freaking at work.
Fair enough.
Like Tuesday nights are usually a lot more packed.
But Tuesday in the day, like, no, like no one's freaking going to the movies.
But I.
I felt very profiled when I went to this movie because OK, so for those of you that don't
know, I drive my my car, my normal day to day car is out of commission right now.
I'm trying to fix some stuff, but it's out of commission.
We bought this van off of my wife's brother.
This van, he is a very artistic person, so he decided to paint it to look like the galaxy.
So it is painted purple and like has a little hints of blue and stuff with like stars and
just like splashes of white.
It looks cool when you're not driving it.
I get lots of comments about it when I'm driving it.
And it's like I'm confident enough in myself or if someone like were to make a bad comment
about it, I wouldn't care.
Yeah.
But when people would drive by and they're like, hey, your car looks cool.
I'm like, I didn't do this.
But yeah, so so pulling up to a movie theater, driving that van.
Going into a movie to see Bros puts off a very.
Not straight vibe.
And I understand that I understood damn well.
Like I wanted to go with with Brielle, but we weren't able to find someone to watch Iris.
So I had to go by myself and I'm like, I know how this is going to look.
I don't really care.
And then.
So I got my ticket, went in and like everything was fine.
I did feel like I was getting hit on a little bit by the the guy getting my ticket.
You know, he's just like, oh, like.
Like you excited for this one?
I'm like.
Yeah, it looks good.
And he was just like.
Being very chatty and I was I'm not a very chatty person.
So I was just like, OK, cool.
And got my drink and friggin went into the theater.
When I got in the theater, I was met by three very conservative looking gentlemen in the
front row.
And or like just like slightly up like they were in the front of everyone in the theater.
But yes, three very conservative looking gentlemen in the front row.
They were all kind of like seated one seat apart from each other.
And so.
My initial thought.
Was oh, they're here to find some homosexuals and beat them up.
And so that's like my that was my initial thought going into it.
Right.
And I saw there was only one other person in the theater besides the those three.
And it was a woman that was sitting in like the very back row.
And I'm like, that's probably a great call.
And so I was like, OK, because I have a game plan.
I like to I choose to sit two rows behind the suspicious looking people just in case.
So I have like I don't have a lot of.
Distance to cover, because if they pull a frickin weapon like I have, I have a game
plan like I'm going to frickin like take these guys out like frickin John Wick in my
head, like if shit goes down.
So I come up with my game plan.
I'm sitting to like two rows behind them.
And I'm just like eyeballing these dudes like the entire frickin time like the trailers
are going and whatever.
And I'm like, OK.
And like you got to think like one of these dudes was in like.
He was in a flannel like blue jeans, like normal looking shoes.
The other guy was wearing a white T-shirt, jeans, shorts.
He's like a heftier guy, white goatee, and he was wearing like a camo hat.
So I'm like, dude, like shit's about to go down.
And then the other dude was like some dude in like a polo and khakis and business shoes
and whatever.
So I'm like, OK, like these dudes have just formed like a jail packed and are already
the beats of people.
I'm like, you know, I'm frickin like ready.
So the trailer start going and one of the guys is like.
So one of the trailers I played was.
I want to dance with somebody, the Whitney Houston movie.
And when that song started playing, I want to dance with somebody like they want the
guy at the very end, the one in the polo shirt started like bopping his head back and forth.
And I was like, and he looked over at his buddies as doing it.
And so they all started doing it.
And my nerves just went completely back down to normal.
I'm like, OK, these guys are just here for a good time.
OK, good.
So nothing suspicious happened with that.
OK.
And I'm like, great.
Like frickin good.
Because like I had my game plan was if shit went down, like if one of them stood up and
like started reaching for something, I was going to take my drink, throw it at them and
then frickin like smat like pull one guy down to the ground, push his friend over the rail.
Like I was ready to frickin go down.
And like and there was like the guy on the end, he kept standing up to go to the bathroom
and every time he stood up, I like grab my drink and I was like, I'm frickin ready, dude.
Like frickin try something.
Oh, shit.
And so after I after the movie was over and like we all left and like I said, assumptions
were made because when they when the three gentlemen were leaving the one on the end,
he like looked over at me and I just kind of gave him like a little nod.
And then he like pounded his chest like we're part of some club.
And I'm like.
Oh, no, it's not like that, dude.
And I'm like, whatever, forget it.
So I got up and went to the bathroom.
And then that same dude comes in and goes to one of the urinals next to me and he's
just like, I hear him say like from behind me, he's like, hey, did you like the movie?
And I just kind of stood there because I thought he was talking to one of his friends and then
like no one answered, and so I kind of like turned around real quick.
He's like, I'm like, me?
And he's like, yeah, you like the movie?
I was like, yeah, it was good.
And he.
And so he's just like, yeah, like, it's great learning about like our people, right.
And I'm like, no, like I'm like, I sounded like I was like very much in the closet.
I'm like, no, I'm I'm not.
No, you're an ally, but you're straight.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm just I'm just an ally, dude.
I'm like, and I started telling him, I'm like, I mean, my my bro got a podcast and we're
talking about this movie tonight.
And he's like, oh, OK, like kind of in that, like, oh, like kind of that vibe.
I'm like, no, like I didn't want to like over explain myself because I felt like that would
have been like really suspicious to.
And so.
We like a finished up was walking out to the car.
He was fortunately him and his buddies were parked like right in front of me.
Oh, shit.
And I'm like, damn it.
So I'm like, I just frickin got done.
Tell this dude that I'm not part of this little gang and I'm getting in this super like flamboyant
car.
And I could tell.
So it was like separated.
So it was like the drive, the driving portion.
And then there's like the two on the like separate sides.
Yeah.
So him and his buddies were on like one side.
I was on the other.
And so they were like out smoking.
And so I get in my car, get everything ready.
And I kind of was like, I put my sunglasses on and then started like catching like looks
at them.
And the guy that I was talking to in the bathroom was like looking kind of like nodded towards
me.
And then all of them just kind of like got a quick little glance and look back.
And I could tell just by the looks on their face that they're just like, yeah, he hasn't
figured it out yet.
And I almost want to be like, I'm married to a woman.
Hey, but they could have thought you were bisexual.
I know, probably.
Like, yeah, like, like anyway, they could have thought I was part of that club, but
I didn't want to.
I mean, it's an awesome club.
It's an awesome club.
I know.
Like I said, it's like I didn't want to over defend myself because I think that comes off
as suspicious.
But it was just a funny interaction.
And I don't know the way that you like say that from his point of view.
I'm pretty sure he was hitting on you.
You think I think so.
Yeah, he was told to work off of because he's like, you like it?
Yeah, it's good.
Yeah, dude, you got flirted with.
Oh, what the hell?
After I literally I get nothing from when I go to see bros.
I don't get flirted with nothing.
I mean, the the the the girl that scanned my barcode on my phone, she was cute.
But now I didn't get you probably had an assumption made about you, too.
I'm sure.
Yeah, that's true.
But hey, I wouldn't have been mad if like if if a cute guy hit on me, I wouldn't have
been mad.
OK, well, he was like 60.
So oh, shit.
They were like old dudes.
Like I told you, they were like like that's why that's why I was suspicious.
It wasn't the fact that they were just like three guys.
It was like three older gentlemen.
So I had a cigarette smoke and like 20s.
No, they're like 60s.
Holy shit.
OK, never mind.
But still, though, I think I think you got a what's the word?
I.
What's an old person that chases younger people?
There's a word for it.
I just don't know what it is.
I don't know what it is for men, but it's like Cougar.
Yeah.
I'm like if it's a woman.
But either way, I got profiled very heavily this movie viewing.
And like I said, I'm not upset about it.
It was just super funny.
Dude, that is amazing.
Oh my God.
And like Brielle like addressed all these concerns with me before I went.
She's just like, you know, you're going to a movie about like LGBT.
And you're like alone, right?
And like, yes, I understand how this looks.
I understand the optics.
I need to.
What was really funny is because I had forgotten that we had like the conversation about, you
know, like, oh, this movie being made for us.
And so when you text me, oh, yeah, this movie was totally made for us.
I'm like, wait, but you're not gay and you're not bi.
So how is it made for both of us?
You're not you're not made for the podcast, Rose.
I forgot that we had that conversation, so I got like thrown off.
I'm like, I mean, he's an ally, but he's not part of the community.
So I'm very confused.
Like that, like you're not part of this club, man.
I don't mean you know, I don't mean that.
No, I know.
That's why this review is going to be very interesting.
A straight man and a bisexual man review.
We can browse, but I don't know if you've ever said that on the podcast before.
I think I have.
All right.
I was like, lean into it.
I don't know if I have.
But yeah, for everyone watching.
Yeah, I'm bisexual.
So there it is.
So if any of you didn't know, yeah, Rose is bisexual.
Hell yeah.
So Black Panther 2.
That segue.
Right.
Perfect.
How else could you have done it?
Or what better way would there have been to done it?
I feel did.
I don't know English.
That was Rose taking a left turn in a frickin intersection.
Like, oh, now just crank it to the left.
Oh, shit.
But yeah, what we were supposed to end up talking about Black Panther 2 released.
I'd say this is more of like a trailer because like the first thing that we got is more of
teaser.
Right.
I would agree.
I just don't know if they're going to release another trailer after this.
I mean, so either because it comes out next month.
Well, I think maybe we might get one more.
I honestly hope we don't because I don't know.
I've seen everything that I need to.
I mean, it's Black Panther 2.
The first one was great.
We're all excited for this one.
I mean, you know, fortunately with the passing of Chadwick Boseman, it's going to be very
interesting to see how they handle the death of him in the universe or the death of T'Challa.
But I feel from just the glimpses that we've seen in these trailers, because there's barely
any audio in this one and the last one, they are paying so much.
What's the word?
They're taking his death seriously.
Like they are making sure that the audience understands how big of a loss T'Challa is
to Wakanda.
And I love that so much.
Yeah.
Have you seen the things going around on TikTok for what people are doing for this movie?
Like the big thing, I don't know if it's like exclusive or anything, but it's something
I'm probably going to do.
People are wearing like all white to the movies.
Like how like because what's the reasoning?
So you know how like all the Wakandans are dressed in white for what we assume is the
funeral?
Oh, yes.
So that's like what they're like, just wearing like a white shirt or just like a blank white
shirt or just a color of like some sort of royalty or just something like involving like
your culture or if you don't have like a culture, then it's just wearing white.
And I'm like, I'll do that.
I'll do it all freaking day.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So I'm probably going to do that.
Dude, I might do that too.
One thing actually one thing I might do.
So the the Black Panther, you remember like the Black Panther artwork that we I made?
Where it's just kind of our the Albrose logo button.
Like a Black Panther style, kind of like the stylization before I got like actually good
at creating the artwork.
I do remember that.
Yes, I do.
So if you guys want to see it, like just go back to our Black Panther episode, you should
be able to see it.
But I kind of put some like tribal fabric patterns on on our logo.
So what I'm thinking of doing is just ordering a white hoodie and taking that logo, but like
changing the color, like colorizing it to be like white.
And then to wear that to the movie.
Dude, that would look so sick.
Yeah, I'll have to mess around with it, but I think that'd be really cool.
Yeah, dude.
You got to say yeah, you got to send me a pic of that or show me how it turns out because
ooh, that's awesome.
Or I might just get ahead of the game and create the artwork for that episode ahead
of time.
Yeah, that's never nothing wrong with getting an early start.
Yeah, so we'll see.
We'll see what I end up doing.
But that's kind of like what I'm thinking of doing.
Like whatever I do, whether it be like the old artwork or the new artwork, just colorizing
it to be like white.
So it's like you can almost barely see it.
I like it.
But I think that'd be dope.
Oh hell yeah, dude.
Dope as fuck.
Yeah, but this trailer was sick.
It gave us a lot more action, gave us some of Namor talking.
And like I love like his voice, like the accent that they decided to go with him.
I think it fit really well.
Absolutely agree.
And his dialogue about the broken people being the best leaders is like, whoa.
That's like freaking Shakespeare kind of poetry.
Like, dude, straight up.
Like I freaking love what they've done with Namor.
I don't really I don't know like anything about Namor from the comics.
So what I see here is great.
Yeah, well, so if you don't know anything about Namor, he's an Atlantean.
He does dwell in the water.
He has wings on his ankles and he's usually portrayed as an Asian or someone with like
an Asian heritage.
Oh, okay.
So they did a complete race swap with him, making him more like an Aztec, like Mayan
culture.
Interesting.
Which I freaking loved.
But one of the biggest changes that they've made, because like Namor has always been compared
to or associated with Aquaman.
Like it's like, oh, Namor is just the Marvel's Aquaman.
Which yes, it's true, they're both Atlantean.
And in the comics, they both carry Tridents.
Or like Namor will occasionally wield a Trident.
I love that they swapped the Trident out for a spear.
Yeah, that looks freaking badass.
Yeah, it like everything they've done with him looks freaking awesome.
Like I thought the wings on his feet were going to look like stupid.
They pulled it off amazingly well.
Like just the way that he like flies with them and like the way that they associate
like the Atlanteans call him the feathered serpent or something like that.
Yeah, I forget what M'Baku call them.
Yeah, but it oh, like this movie looks like it's going to be like just a cultural mass
of amazing.
Like I agree.
I hope we get a lot of more like African culture with Wakanda.
I hope we get some like good culture like Aztec Mayan culture with Namor.
Like I hope we get just everything with that.
And I'm excited.
And we got our the best look we've gotten yet as Shuri.
Oh, yeah, dude, her Black Panther outfit.
Oh, I love it.
Dude, they have differentiated her Black Panther from T'Challa's so well.
I love that they included like the dots that she had on her her head during the final fight
in the first one.
Yeah, in her Wakanda or Wakanda, her Black Panther outfit.
Yeah.
And I like that she she she kind of has that more showy feel like with the gold on her
because it works, though, for her character.
It works really well.
It like what it makes me think of is Killmonger's suit.
Yes, because like she made two different versions of the same suit she made to the one that
T'Challa went with, which I think this was kind of like foreshadowing a little bit in
a way.
I mean, obviously not because we thought we would have Chadwick Boseman with us, but some
slight foreshadowing that she made like a Black Panther suit for her brother, where
it's the more simple design, not super showy.
It's just very plain.
And then she has the more showy version where it's like the highlights of gold, like the
gold embroidery, the golden face, like kind of has like cheetah print on it, like kind
of has something like I said, something a little bit more showy.
And I love that she kind of has a mixture of all of that, where her suit is very sleek,
but it has just those hints of character from herself has a little bit of T'Challa in there,
has a little bit of what she was going for with Killmonger's suit.
Because sure, he is a lot more extravagant than T'Challa in taste, at least from what
we've seen of her.
Yeah, like she kind of likes flashy more than she does sleek.
And so it makes sense and it looks awesome.
So I'm so excited to see what they do with this movie.
Just like the first trailer, whoever like picks out like the certain music that they
want showcased in these trailers, can they please get a raise because the music gets
you so hyped.
It's incredible.
No joke.
Like, no joke at all.
Yeah, I was freaking blown away with this trailer.
Yeah, this this got me even more excited.
I can't wait for Black Panther 2.
If another trailer comes out, I'm probably not going to watch it.
Same here, because I mean, this will I don't know, this might this might be my favorite
Marvel movie of the year.
We'll see.
What do we have in the running for that?
It's Doctor Strange, Multiverse of Madness.
Okay.
Thor, Love and Thunder.
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
Is that it?
Is it just those two?
No Way Home came out last year.
Last year.
Yeah, I think that's it.
Then we've just gotten a bunch of shows.
Yeah.
So I feel like we got one more.
Yeah, I thought that as well.
I'm looking it up.
Morbius.
That's not even going to be in the running.
Not any.
Yeah, it looks like that was it.
Okay, shit.
Well, I guess.
Yeah, Black Panther 2, Doctor Strange, Morbius and Thor.
Did didn't Across the Spider-Verse get postponed?
Yes, part one got pushed to 2023.
Okay, that's what I thought.
It's Across the Spider-Verse, right?
Yes.
Okay.
If that movie was coming out this year, that would be in the running for number one.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, so other than Black Adam, I don't think we're getting any other superhero movies
this year.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Like Shazam is supposed to come out next year.
Flash got pushed to next year.
Aquaman got pushed to next year.
Yeah, we don't have any.
We have more like Marvel content coming out because we have Werewolf by Night coming out
this month, actually in a few days.
And then we have the Guardians Holiday Special coming.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, did you hear that they decided to turn Armored Wars into a movie instead of a TV
show?
Yes.
That's awesome.
Very pleased with that.
I am too.
Can't wait to see Don Cheadle back in the war machine armor.
Yeah, that's gonna be sick.
What was I gonna say?
Oh, so sorry.
It's really gonna clear your head.
So I had not seen the second trailer for Black Adam until I saw Burrows in Theaters.
I'm actually pretty excited for that movie now.
Like I was kind of just, you know, I'm very interested.
But no, that second trailer really sold me.
Dude, they they have some crazy shit in the works with Black Adam.
Like I had no idea that the guy that plays Hawkman, I didn't know that it's the same
actor that I freaking played MC Ren and straight out of Compton.
I forget his name, but guy's amazing actor.
So that's freaking awesome.
Apparently, The Rock has some crazy plans for the DCEU.
He was able to get a confirmed cameo for Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill.
Those are confirmed.
In future projects, yes.
Hell yeah.
So I don't know which projects those are exactly.
I think it might be Batman is going to cameo in Aquaman and Henry Cavill is going to cameo
in Shazam, I think.
That would make sense.
Yeah.
But the rumor is that it's all leading up to a Black Adam versus movie where it's either
going to be Black Adam versus the Justice League or it's going to be Black Adam versus
the Shazam family.
And I'm kind of hoping it's.
Justice League.
I am too.
Yeah.
Like as much as I know a lot of people shit on Justice League, I mean, Zack Snyder's version
was a huge step up.
But yeah, I still want to see the Justice League versus Black Adam.
Yeah, that would be the shit.
Yeah.
Like, especially if like I don't know, it would just be really cool to see.
Because especially with him going up against the JSA this year or.
Yeah.
Like this go round.
So it's kind of like a lead up to something a little bit bigger.
So that's true.
Yeah.
My hope is that it's like it's a lead in like maybe this is how they bring Shazam into the
Justice League.
But yeah, I'm.
I'm freaking pumped.
Yeah.
Give me both.
Like I pray that this movie is as good as the trailers make it out to be.
Seriously, because yeah, that first trailer, like it was good.
But like I said, what didn't really sell me, this one really sold me.
I'm actually really excited for Black Adam.
Yeah.
So yeah, we'll be breaking that one down when it comes out as well as Black Panther.
Oh yeah.
And as well as the Mario movie.
Yeah.
So yeah, Black Adam's first, though, right?
Because that comes out this month.
Right.
Yeah.
It's not like October 24th or something like that.
21st.
That's when it comes out.
Yeah.
So we might not be breaking it down like immediately because we have kind of a packed schedule
like spoiler alert.
Next week we're doing Hocus Pocus 2.
Then it's going to be Halloween ends.
Then Halloween 2018.
Because we got to review the whole trilogy.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
So we'll have all of those done.
And then it's like, I think right after that is Black Adam.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, makes sense.
It won't be immediately after, but it will be shortly after.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Because I'm sorry to say I'm more excited for the final fight between Laurie Strode and Michael Myers than I am for the Justice Society of America versus Black Adam.
I don't think anyone is surprised by that.
Yeah, fair enough.
You right.
All right.
Well, unless you got anything else to say, Caleb.
Nope.
Okay.
So let's move on to our headliner then of our breakdown of Bros.
All right.
So on this week's headliner, the all Bros will be breaking down Bros.
This has such a nice ring to it.
Doesn't it?
So, yeah, Caleb, would you like to tell everybody how we break down films on this podcast?
I would love to.
If you are new to the breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final all Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up in our algorithm and spit out a letter grade
for us to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
And it gives us a percentage to compare that movie to others within that category.
So it kind of gives us a ranking for that instead of just like a it makes it more fun.
Makes it like I don't know where I was getting that, but it makes it more fun for us to have
like a ranking and have it like based off percentages.
Yes.
But like I think ultimately, whenever we talk about the movies, it's we only seem to ever
referred it like the score got like, oh, got a whatever like a B plus.
Like we don't really care too much about the percentage.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
The percentage is more just to see where it ranks in our movies.
But yeah, anyway, but that over explained piece of information.
If you have not seen Bros, please do yourself a service and go check this movie out.
It is an amazing watch.
And we cannot recommend this one enough.
So, with that, Rose is about to read off the entire synopsis for this movie.
So if you listen past this point and have anything spoiled for you, it's your own freaking
fault.
Really?
It really is.
Yeah, it really is.
Because this movie is such a treat for it being I'm pretty sure this is the first gay
rom.
Yeah, this is the first gay romcom.
And it's one of the funniest movies I've seen in a very long time.
I don't know enough about gay romcoms to confirm or deny that statement.
I swear it is.
But it's up there.
Yes.
Because I swear Billy Eichner actually said that this is the first gay romcom.
Okay, I mean, I'll buy that.
Yeah, you'll buy that.
Sorry.
So anyway, if you listen past this point and anything spoiled for you, it's your own fault.
So with that, Rose, would you care to read the synopsis for us?
I would love to.
All right, Bobby Lieber is doing another episode of his New York podcast and radio show The
11th Brick at Stonewall talking to callers about his written works on gay history and
gay icons.
He claims to be fine with being single and not having found love hooking up with random
men over Grindr.
Bobby attends an award ceremony for the LGBTQ community where he wins an award for best
cis male gay man.
He announces that he has accepted a position as a curator for the upcoming new National
LGBTQ Plus History Museum in Manhattan, the first such museum in the world.
Bobby joins his friend Henry at a nightclub in the city where a new gay dating app is
being launched and spots Aaron Shepard, whom Henry describes as hot but boring.
Aaron and Bobby flirt and exchange a kiss, but Aaron doesn't appear interested in Bobby.
A few days later, the two start to spend time together, but the relationship is rocky.
When Bobby meets with Deborah Messing, who wants to donate to the museum, he complains
to her about his complicated relationship with Aaron.
Messing gets angry, lamenting that many gay men vent to her because of her role on Will
and Grace and decides not to donate to the museum.
Just her changing, do I look like my character?
Do I look like my character in the show?
It was just a character.
I loved that scene.
Dude, I loved how she pointed out the lesbian and was just like, do you have any issues
that you want to talk to me about?
And she's like, no.
And she's like, see, because lesbians have their shit together.
That's so good.
The fact that she has to point out, I want her to escort me out.
I laughed my ass off at that joke.
That was so good.
That was so, so good.
After some time apart, Bobby and Aaron spend an afternoon at a park and then return to
Aaron's apartment to have sex.
Aaron confides that his original dream was to be a chocolatier, but had thought that
it was unachievable and never pursued it.
Bobby invites Aaron to a trip to Provincetown, where he solicits an eccentric millionaire
for a donation to the museum.
The millionaire is unimpressed by Bobby at first, but Aaron helps him to adjust his pitch
and they score a $5 million donation.
Bobby is impressed by Aaron and the two grow closer romantically and Bobby opens up about
having to tone down his flamboyant behavior to make others comfortable.
When Aaron's family comes to the city for a visit, Bobby's excessive outspoken behavior
ends up causing a rift between the two men.
Bobby attempts to use steroids to get fit, but he's interrupted by an emergency at the
museum.
People are threatening to boycott and pull donations over an exhibit that suggests that
Abraham Lincoln was gay.
Bobby wants to keep the exhibit, but his coworkers want to get rid of it and they fight.
Bobby goes to the gym to work out after using steroids.
He meets a guy there named Joel and uses a lower tone bro voice to appeal to him.
They go back to Joel's place to hook up, but when Bobby uses his real voice, Joel gets
angry and tells Bobby to leave.
I'll admit, it would throw me through a freaking loop if someone's talking super deep like
yo what's up bro, yeah dude you wanna hook up, you wanna have sex, and then after you
guys do the deed, you just get a whole like oh my god, different personality.
I don't know if I would react like him.
It would definitely throw someone off I feel.
You're presenting in a certain way and then suddenly you're not that way anymore.
It's almost like you'd be caught off guard by a stranger in that sense.
Like how he said, he's like oh my gosh are you gonna kill me?
It does kind of give off those serial killer vibes.
Like hey, I'm pretending to be someone to get you into a certain situation and then
I'm gonna reveal who I really am.
That's kind of scary.
Yeah, no that's a good point.
So I mean I do feel that it was maybe a little over the top in his reaction.
I think, I don't know.
I've never been put in a situation like that where it's like I've been led to believe that
someone was a certain way but then it turned out to be like a different situation.
So that's always kind of come over time where it's like oh you're not quite who I thought
you were but it's never been something as like drastic as that.
So it's hard for me to say if like oh yeah that's how I'd react to or that no like I
wouldn't react.
I don't know but I do see the side of it being very startling.
That's fair.
So yeah.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Um, after some time Bobby returns to work and reconciles with his coworkers over his
anger issues.
The others, including Angela and Wanda, all admit they have their own anger issues as
well over matters such as their sexual identities.
They all agree to compromise on the exhibits that will be presented.
Meanwhile Aaron quits his job and fulfills his dream of making chocolates telling Bobby
that all proceeds will go to the museum.
I feel that they're leaving out a huge plot hole, not plot hole, but they're leaving out
a huge thing with this story and that's the fact that during the whole relationship part
with Aaron and Bobby, one of Aaron's old hockey mates comes into the picture with his soon
to be wife but then soon after it turns out that his friend comes out as being gay and
that actually gets Aaron kind of interested and he actually asks Bobby like hey how do
you feel about being in an open relationship?
And at first Bobby's like kind of into it but then he's like you know what actually?
Not no.
That's okay.
I don't think he was into it.
Fair enough.
I think because he kind of said I just didn't want to be lame.
Yeah that's true.
Yeah.
So it's he I don't think he was like open to it.
I think he was pressured into being open to it.
Yeah.
He expressed that he wasn't super into it when they went to go hook up with that like
fake baseball player and his husband.
Yeah.
Like didn't seem super into it then and I think it was more of an experience like he
just wanted to be there with Aaron.
Yeah.
Instead of Aaron going off by himself.
Yeah.
And then the freaking rando Steve.
God dude.
I thought I recognized that guy and then finally I looked it up online.
He was freaking have you seen the show The Middle?
No.
But I have I do know about that show.
Okay.
So yeah the guy is one of Sue the daughter's like best friends on it.
But like in the show you can definitely tell he is a closeted gay kid.
Right.
Very.
Right when the parents first meet him especially the dad he's just like yeah I don't have to
worry about him hitting on my daughter.
I don't think he knows but I know.
Oh yeah that was a very interesting interaction.
Yeah.
Especially when he explained it like later when he was saying like I just like hey if
you were insecure about this why didn't you say anything because I didn't want to be lame.
It's like it's true.
Like when you're when you're pressured into a situation like that it like you don't want
to be lame.
Like you want to allow your partner to do and explore the things that they want to do.
Yeah no I agree.
I think that shared like a really good message on like hey knowing and like setting your
own personal boundaries.
And I feel like he went about it in a really healthy way like talking about it afterward.
Like honestly like I think if it would have been a discussion there when they were all
kind of like inebriated it was a much like higher escalation situation.
Yeah.
But I think afterwards when it's like after it's kind of all said and done and he expressed
his feelings about it and was like hey not necessarily a big fan of that.
Yeah.
And then Aaron was just like very receptive like yeah okay.
And yeah yeah.
Kind of going into like the whole like with Aaron is you know parents being there you
know there's kind of a huge they're not kind of there is a huge falling out between Aaron
and Bobby just because you know Bobby starts you know like really because Aaron asked like
hey you know can you just tone it down for the time that we're with my parents.
But Bobby's just like you know what.
No I want to be myself.
I'm going to you know not hide who I am.
And this leads into him literally telling Aaron's family that he hates his life.
And so that makes Aaron mad.
And they have a huge fight.
They don't break up at this point yet.
But he they like I think it would go like a day or two without talking to each other.
Or wait no is this the same night that he finds him at the bar with that guy.
I'm pretty sure it was the same night.
Yeah.
Yes it was.
He freaking bounced which that was such a tough scene to watch.
It was extremely uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Like the secondhand embarrassment for everyone.
Like because I don't know whose team I was on with that one.
But it flip flopped hard because I was just like whenever yeah whenever Bobby was talking
I was just like OK like stop stop.
And then Aaron when he's just like hey can you like be less yourself.
I'm like oh like shouldn't have said that.
Yeah I'm like now you're at the wrong.
Then when Bobby like I kept flip flopping because then freaking Bobby threw out like
yeah like Aaron who hates his life.
I'm like oh shit dude.
Like chill out.
Yeah.
You don't need to be spilling your your significant other's dirty laundry like that man.
Yeah.
And so it was yeah.
I think ultimately Aaron was definitely in the wrong for asking that.
Yeah.
But then I liked how Bobby kind of admitted to it afterward where he's like or when Aaron
like called him out and was like hey it felt like you were doing that on purpose and he's
like because I was.
Yeah.
Like fair enough dude.
So yeah so yeah like like you said that happened.
So this happens the same night that you know they have a huge fight.
They go their separate ways.
But Bobby wants to you know work through it and actually talk.
So he goes to the bar that they are.
Wait no he I don't know if it's the bar that they first met but he goes to a bar because
he he follows the taxi that Aaron gets into.
And he sees Aaron kind of like play fighting but also kissing.
It's kind of a similar situation that he was in earlier.
Like apparently Aaron turns on by violence.
Yeah.
Like play fighting or you can call it play fighting but it like gets intense enough where
onlookers are like hey what's going on.
Oh yeah.
Never mind.
I'm gonna step away.
Dude I thought that was so well done on like that group's part.
Yeah.
They were all worked up there.
Hey what's going on.
Oh okay.
Just gonna let you guys do you.
We're gonna go back over there.
Yeah so so Bobby sees Aaron kiss I forget his frickin name.
He's a hockey buddy and so Bobby breaks it off.
And then a couple nights later they both run into each other at the same bar that they
met and Aaron asked to talk to Bobby.
They have a talk but it actually turns out that Bobby is not willing to take him back
because he doesn't want to get hurt again.
Because after being single for 40 years and actually finally starting to open up his heart
to someone it screwed.
He got screwed.
And so his reaction was completely justifiable and I thought that it was going to go the
route of them going their own separate ways for a minute.
And I'm like this movie's got some balls on it dude.
I maybe I'm just not good at calling this kind of shit but I honestly did not expect
them to get back together.
I really thought that they were actually.
Yeah dude I am so shitty about calling this shit out.
I don't know what it is.
Okay like it in your defense though they did pull that off very well on it being like hey
no not into this anymore.
Because the fact that like what really sealed it for me is when Aaron literally tells Bobby
you know I'm representation that you can actually be loved and that you know how to love somebody.
Yeah that's what got me too.
I was just like oh shit like this is like done done.
And I'm like where do we go from here and then like it eventually got to the point like
when he's I didn't start thinking that they were going to get back together until they
were like at the opening of the museum.
So I was like okay here we go.
Like now he's around all these happy couples and it's like he wants that.
Yeah.
So yeah leading into I feel like I just wanted to put in a couple of the gap that like huge
gap I feel that they missed the person who wrote this I feel missed in the plot because
I feel that's definitely a very unless you're like actually going to see this movie I think
that's definitely something that you need to know to understand the story.
But so it says on the opening night of the museum a large crowd turns out.
Bobby misses Aaron and after talking to his friend Tina decides to text him.
Hey what's up.
Aaron gets the text and is encouraged by his brother to go after the person he loves.
Aaron runs to the museum and arrives just as Bobby begins his speech.
When he sees Aaron arrive he proceeds to sing a song he wrote about their relationship inspired
by the music of Garth Brooks Aaron's favorite singer.
When the song ends.
So like I freaking love the song it was really good.
Okay you know what confused the ever living shit out of me.
When he so what they were talking about the or when he was kind of doing the montage and
making the song for Aaron Bobby was what he was watching was a video of Brad Paisley.
And so when he was watching that and he suddenly starts like making a song he's like oh I wrote
the song and it's inspired by Garth Brooks I'm like wait what the hell you were just
watching Brad Paisley.
Like that's not Garth Brooks.
I guess all country guys are the same to him or country singers.
Must be or something like that.
Like as a country fan I did kind of appreciate that in a way because I'm like what the that's
not Garth Brooks dude.
Like I was almost expecting him to start singing a song to the tune of a Brad Paisley song.
And then him and then Aaron being like that's actually Brad Paisley that's not Garth Brooks.
Which I would have laughed my ass off at that.
But when no like we got him like singing to the tune of a Garth Brooks song.
If literally right before they kiss or like right after they kiss he's just like yeah
that wasn't to the tune of a Garth Brooks song or something.
Just Bobby being like shut up and like just be like just shut up and kiss me.
That would have been great.
I would have loved that.
That would have been a great like final joke for at least that act.
That scene yeah.
Okay so when the song ends Bobby and Aaron kiss to applause from the crowd.
They agree to date for three months before reassessing their relationship.
Oh my god that joke was so freaking funny.
Dude Aaron was flipping out.
It's like Bobby.
Yeah we just got back together.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Oh god I loved it.
Alright and then.
That was a good one.
Three months later Annie brings her second grade class to the museum and Bobby and Aaron
are still dating.
Bobby runs away playfully when Aaron asks if he ever wants kids.
Oh man.
Dude this had classic like rom-com vibes all over it.
It really did.
So for those of you that don't know Judd Apatow who is like amazing at like just romantic
comedies.
Like he's done.
Let's see I'm just gonna pull up his movies.
He's done this is 40.
He's done knocked up 40 year old virgin.
Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
The big sick.
Trying to see other like it's hard because he does like just plain old comedies too.
Zookeeper kind of.
Yeah that's about it I'll say.
At least in like romantic comedy world.
But he.
Yeah so I forgot where I was going with that.
He he writes.
Judd Apatow just produced it right.
Yes he was just the producer.
The director was Nicholas Stoller who's done some other projects not really.
He's done more comedies than anything.
He hasn't directed a whole lot in his life.
He's done Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
The two neighbors movies and Storks at least those are the bigger ones that we would know.
So he hasn't done a whole lot but I think he did an amazing job with this.
It did kind of have a classic.
Like Meg Ryan feel.
Yeah it did.
And the fact that it was written.
Oh sorry go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah like him like so Nicholas Stoller and Billy Eichner are the ones that wrote this
movie.
Yeah that is so freaking cool.
This is where with my scores they're going to they're going to differ wildly.
Oh shit.
Not like not like not a ton but it's for me like it's it's wild like you know I usually
it's like hey the story gets I don't know like an 85 and the writing gets like an 86
like yeah it's usually like like that close to each other.
Yeah yeah.
It's not it's going to be like kind of a big gap.
So like which is higher writing or for me the writing is higher.
Okay.
The story for me like I said felt very kind of textbook romcom.
Kind of had like that's what I loved about it.
I know it had a really good feel about just like a kind of heartwarming feel.
Yeah it did.
Yeah it absolutely did.
It was great.
Like it is I love how they did everything like just the hesitation towards being in
a relationship between the two and then it's it's it's almost like they didn't even like
address it.
They just kind of were suddenly an item.
Yeah which I thought was funny because it's like hey neither of these guys really wanted
to date but guess what now you're meeting his friends now you're meeting his family
now all this and you still haven't really talked about it.
Oh yeah and the fact like after they they have sex for the first time.
Forgiveness Bobby's just like oh my god I never thought I would date someone.
I forget the line that he says and Aaron's just like we're dating.
He's just like what no we're not dating.
Just like you know jokes it off or shrugs it off.
So I thought that was really funny because it's like what this movie did really good
and this is what I attribute to writing is they played off some of like the relationship
issues and struggles really well.
Like there's a lot of times where at least with my first two girlfriends like we didn't
really address what we were.
Yeah.
Like we never had that conversation.
It was never like oh you're my girlfriend or I'm your boyfriend or it wasn't anything
like that.
We just one day started calling each other that.
Like when I didn't know how else to like explain my relationship to them or to someone else.
I guess you're wrong.
Yeah so it I appreciated that and like the realism but I attribute more of that to the
writing.
Story wise the way I explained it to you earlier before we started recording it had a very
really high budget hallmark feel to it.
Where in like you have one person who's really focused on their career not really wanting
to get into a relationship.
Love it first sight.
Like having a decent relationship for like decent relationship montage.
Something that like breaks them up or like get make some fight and separate for a time
and then they come back together at the end.
And like very cookie cutter movie in that sense.
And because of that my story score is like 85.
Oh OK.
I respect it.
I think it was better done than other movies that I have seen.
And that's like I said mostly attributed to the writing and the acting the spoiler alert.
Both of those scores are going to be really high.
But when you when I'm thinking just overall story.
It was a fairly average romcom story.
No no no I understand.
For me I'd say I'd say I am higher.
Like I was telling Caleb this is the first love story in a very long time.
I have been so what's the word.
Like invested in.
Thank you.
Invested in like from start to finish.
I wanted to see these two guys end up together.
Are you big into romcoms or just like romantic movies in general?
I am actually.
Mostly romcoms.
Yeah like just just romantic movies like whether it be like dramas or whatever.
It doesn't necessarily have to be like romantic comedies.
Yeah I mean I would say I'm more so I prefer romantic comedies over just romantic movies.
But I mean I don't know if it's just because like this is one of the first like gay relationships
I've seen portrayed in a film.
Why I love it so much and like why I was rooting for it so much.
I mean well it's actually not even the first like relationship because I mean we've seen
other gay couples it's like where they were the focus of it.
That's true.
Just yeah like it's like the main focus that's what was different about it and it did have
a very like fresh vibe to it.
Yeah awesome.
And then like it being super explicit and everything too.
Yeah that just that's just what made it better.
Yeah just like it's been a it's been a hot minute since I've loved a romcom this much.
So I'm I'm honestly at a 90.
Completely fair completely fair.
Yeah I like I said the only reason it's down that low is just because of how cookie cutter
it feels.
Now that's understandable.
I think like I know I'm the kind of person that like eats that shit up.
So I love it.
I know I love it too.
Like I like don't get me wrong like a good like a good romantic comedy like any good
cookie cutter movie like I'll freaking eat up like no man's business.
It's just in ways of storytelling it's nothing too original where this movie gets its originality
and it's like in the details it's the writing.
That's kind of how I've always kind of viewed story and writing like those categories it's
like stories just kind of the quick bare bones like hey what's this about and the writing
is like in the details.
Yeah I will say I can't I wouldn't put this into writing or story or anything because
it really doesn't like affect the grade or anything.
But I'm amazed of how much LGBTQ like history they put into this movie stuff that I didn't
even know.
I mean I've only been out as being bisexual for I think like two years now.
Maybe it's less than that.
Has it been that long?
I don't actually I don't think it's been that long.
It's been like a year.
I was going to say like like yeah sorry.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
Pretty sure I could still pull up the message when you like told me.
Yeah you probably could.
So I don't really know as much as about the community as I probably should.
I haven't done a lot of my own research.
Well it's not like you're in a state that like is a good place to learn about all that
shit.
True that.
That's why I love Georgia.
They're actually like really good about teaching people about this stuff.
Some places in Georgia.
Don't get crazy.
Fair enough but it's better than Utah.
So you gotta get that.
I just happen to live in like one of two cities that like is okay with that shit.
Yeah that is.
And okay is is very very loosely used.
Yeah they'll accept it.
Unlike Utah that just yeah if like they can just sense or like see that you're showcasing
any type of LGBTQ vibes.
They're just like ugh get them out of here.
Where was I?
Oh yeah.
So yeah just like seeing like how much you know just the history of this community just
it was incredible.
Like honestly I learned a lot from this freaking movie just about the community alone.
It was really cool.
Yeah it was like getting into the writing like I said this is where it's more of the
details of everything.
I really appreciated the history that they were able to share about that community and
just some of the stuff that's just kind of been pushed to the side.
Like I don't think I ever would have known that I mean I don't know if this was played
for laughs or anything or if it was like true but the whole Abraham Lincoln being a being
closeted gay or bi I guess.
Yeah the one guy like being like no he wasn't gay he was bi.
That guy and like his like whole like I like absolutely loved him for how much he like
put forth just making sure the bisexual people were represented.
I loved it so much.
Dude that was freaking hilarious and I loved the conversation.
I know it was like in the in either a trailer or a clip or whatever that was shared but
the conversation that him and the lesbian have.
Yeah I forgot I want to look up her name.
I feel bad for just saying the lesbian.
Cherry and Robert.
So those are the two.
So I love the conversation between the two of them when Robert was saying like or just
bitching about like bisexual or appreciation or awareness week was a little while ago and
none of you guys said shit.
Yeah and then Cherry was like oh yeah lesbian awareness month was was back in March and
you guys didn't say anything about it and like he just retaliates back with like of
course you guys get a month and we get a week.
That was so good.
Yeah it was freaking hilarious.
Oh god I loved it so much.
All the conversations in that little boardroom were amazing.
Yeah like this movie was just expertly written.
Like I feel like they could have gone.
I mean I know that someone could make the argument that maybe this was a little like
in your face with that like the that community.
I feel it but it needs to.
It should be.
Yeah I mean that's like that's exactly what it was supposed to be.
So it like people that I've seen get upset about that like oh it's a little heavy handed
on the gay stuff.
I'm like yeah what did you think you were getting dude.
It's an LGBTQ plus plus community movie.
That's what it is.
It's showcasing you what this community is about the history around it and hoping that
after you see this movie that you can understand where we all come from with why we are who
we are and why we're not ashamed of it.
Yeah exactly.
So anyone who's like throwing a fit over that I'm just like you're freaking dumb.
Yeah.
Like obviously you gotta love homophobic people.
What you gotta love homophobic people.
Oh but yeah it was all that stuff was just really it was well done.
It was really really well done.
Didn't feel like freaking and I think maybe the only argument that you can make was maybe
it's overly explicit.
And I feel like that's hard to do with with movies in that community.
It's like thinking about like other romcoms right.
All of those ones with are can be like PG or like PG 13 can be somewhere in that range.
This movie is a hard are and yeah it is.
It's almost like how could you do a movie like this that's PG or PG 13 or is everyone
so up in arms about this community that there's no way that they'd let that slide.
I don't know because like honestly going into this I expected to see like considering like
how many not like how many but there are you know like there are actual sex scenes between
two males.
I expected to see at least one penis in this movie but there's not one like you like literally
everything is done under the sheets.
So like I mean kudos I mean I wouldn't have cared of course if they're they actually showed
it that's what I'm doing to them like they didn't show any.
That's not true.
I was going to say they didn't show any like more than any other romantic movie shown.
But yeah I now there's some things I'm remembering them like oh yeah I feel if they just showed
you know Bobby and Aaron like having sex I think that would have been fine but the whole
in their first like yeah that that's a little too much for a PG 13 rating.
But honestly I feel like if honestly if you did want to take that scene away and you know
cut out a little bit of the cursing I feel you could have made this PG 13.
Very easily.
Yeah.
So I'm but if again it's like.
But you just know that parents are like people like that are just going to be boycotting
this movie.
I know that's that's like the part that's getting me.
I'm like if they were to take all of that stuff out that made this like a hard R. Yeah.
Like if they were to take all of that out like just do it like a little trimming and
like mild editing like would this still be an R. Or would the world be OK with it being
a PG 13 movie.
Because I would argue that this could very easily be a PG 13 movie.
I absolutely agree.
Yeah no.
Yeah there's no question about it.
And I hope to see more movies like this that are maybe on the more family friendly side.
Honestly a really good gay well I don't know if you can consider it a rom-com but it's
a funny movie.
Have you ever seen a Love, Simon?
Yes.
I think that's a pretty good family friendly gay love story film.
You are absolutely correct on that one.
And it was.
Do they have kissing in that?
They do.
Yeah Simon and.
How much of it?
Like just like one or two or.
I think it's only like Simon and his I forget the boy's name.
They kiss twice.
Once on the Ferris wheel at the end and then like the final scene.
Yeah.
So I feel like movies I think the sweet spot is PG 13.
But I would be very interested to see if they would push for a more extreme rating.
Like with other movies.
Yeah.
I mean we can bitch and complain about the NCAA ratings all day but.
Freaking I'm glad that I didn't really remember a lot about the second trailer because one
of my favorite lines is when Bobby's friend is with him at the bar and he points out the
one old guy and he's just like oh my god yeah it's like they injected steroids into gay
Dumbledore.
I freaking die.
He just points out yeah I had sex with him earlier today.
Oh my god dude I love you.
That shit was so good.
There.
The humor especially with Bobby and I think this just is a testament to Billy Eichner's
acting ability but his but Bobby's inability to just like shut up and monologue was incredible.
Yes.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Oh Billy Eichner.
Incredible.
And this is a movie that I could see myself re-exploring multiple times just to catch
the shit that he was saying while I was laughing.
Yeah dude same here.
Same here.
Like he was so good.
Like the dialogue was spot on.
I love the realism of all the relationships that they had.
Like I love when Bobby went over to his hetero friend's house to be like the gay uncle.
Yeah the gunkle.
And talk about his report on Freddie Mercury.
And how Bobby was the one I was saying like dude should we really be talking about this
in front of the kids and they're just like ah who gives a shit.
I love that dude.
Like that's exactly how I act when people tell me like oh should you really be cussing
around your daughter.
I'm like she's gonna learn words or words.
That scene has one of the I don't care that I saw so many times in the trailer one of
the funniest lines in this whole movie when they're like doing the dash like you know
maybe because he's talking about the whole thing with Aaron and the dash is like you
know maybe you both are bottoms and that's the problem.
And the kids start shouting bottom dance and they all go up and start dancing and Bobby's
just like oh my god gay sex was more fun when straight people were uncomfortable with it.
One of the funniest lines I've ever heard.
Dude I lost it with that.
And that was so freaking good.
Oh my gosh dude.
Awesome.
That was probably the only time in the movie that I let my guard down where if like they
would have the three guys would have freaking done something I probably wouldn't have been
prepared for it.
Because I was taken so off guard by that line it was freaking hilarious.
But it's funny as a parent seeing the shit that I notice the pink tent in the back is
the one that we bought for Iris.
Oh that's so cute.
And I noticed like in like one of the scenes I'm like pretty sure that like tent connectors
busted because it's like one of the issues that I had with her tent is on the inside
because it's like these stupid plastic pipe fittings.
And so some of them would come undone and it would like fall and kind of pull the tent
inwards a little bit.
Yeah.
And I noticed that the tent was kind of like sitting where one of them was curved and like
that one's probably busted out.
You're saying that I should have had you should have hired me for the production crew or the
stage crew.
I could have totally helped you guys out.
Oh yeah the the I really liked the the realism like how real all these relationships felt
between everyone.
Like I liked how even though Aaron was was out like he was out to his family.
I mean I yeah he was out to his family.
He was out to the world but he had such hesitations about being about being gay.
No not being gay.
Or like letting it be known.
I know this.
I'm there.
The way that they did it in the movie is a word that I'm not wanting to use this break
down.
That's fair.
I mean as a feminine.
There we go because there is a certain word that is said in the movie that he's just like
you know what that kind of stuff doesn't bother me.
Yeah well I mean Bobby said it didn't bother him but Aaron it like really did like he didn't
want to be looked at at in that way.
Like he wanted to still be looked at as like masculine and like having just that masculine
vibe about him because he's a country boy or considers himself a country boy and like
considering that out it's like freaking jacked as hell and yeah.
Was it like a job as a lawyer or a but what he really wants to do is he wants to be a
chocolatier.
Yeah and I feel it's really exposed in the scene where as Billy and him are walking out
of the movie that they decided to see they run into that old hockey friend and he literally
just he doesn't even say that they're on a date.
He's just like oh yeah you know this is you know buddy I know just doesn't mention at
all that like hey you know I like this guy or you know like we're actually on a date.
Well at that point it wasn't quite a date I would say because he still hadn't like he
hadn't fully like accepted that he wanted to be in a relationship.
He just didn't want to be like a lawyer enough.
So I mean yeah that part kind of made sense but where he was talking about how good the
movie was when they were coming out and he's like oh just some stupid movie.
I'm like oh yeah.
So yeah it and again it's just I think the movie's title is very like good at explaining
kind of has that bro vibe like that's like the vibe that Aaron was putting off like oh
yeah bro like just some stupid movie.
There is a frickin have you seen like any of Billy on the streets stuff with this movie.
I've seen the only one that I've seen is him asking people if they're going to go see it
like if like I will give you a dollar to go see bros.
One of the I don't know if you've seen this one but one of the funny some ones is when
he's talking talking to a group of guys and he's just like hey guys you going to go see
bros and they're just like yeah well you know we'll see bros you know we're one of the bros
and he's just like yeah it has a lot of gay sex in it and one of them is like whoa okay
you know what.
And he gets mad he's just like oh come on just frickin storm soft.
Yeah I feel like you have something to hide if you're like that against it.
I agree I absolutely agree.
Like I had like Brielle was the only one that like knew that I was going to go see this
movie and so she was the only one that was like giving me a hard time about it she's
just like oh people are going to think things about you and I'm like I'm giving shit.
I'm like who cares like I'm going to go see a movie.
Like if people's sexuality is so threatened by the idea of going to see a movie with gay
people in it like maybe you're not as straight as you think you are.
I agree I mean like I mean from like the moment I came out to you I could tell that you were
an ally so like I feel you know the fact that you're your best friend your bro is bisexual
that just shows that like yeah I don't give a shit.
Yeah it's like as long as you're not grabbing my ass when we're in public I can give a shit.
That's like my whole mindset I'm like as long as you're not harassing me I don't care.
If only I could spoil our discussion for the art for this episode that was just like the
cherry on top.
That was so perfect.
But yeah like we've covered the dialogue the writing everything that they did with this
movie was really expertly crafted.
It really was.
Like this is just a testament to Billy Eichner's comedic world.
Billy Eichner is an amazing comedian.
He is like oh my god I didn't like get really into him until recently but god I've loved
every minute I've got to see of his material.
Yeah and I love how he covered like issues that it not just like everyone has.
Yeah like I know that he said like at the beginning I had this big old monologue about
like love is not love and like gay love versus like normal love.
I honestly never knew that that was a thing in the community that like oh no we literally
came up with the love is love just so you guys would actually freaking accept us.
Is that true?
I don't know.
Or is that just from the movie?
It could just be from the movie but like yeah when he said that I'm like okay should I like
not be wearing a hoodie that I have that says love is love?
Should I feel bad for wearing that hoodie?
Yeah like that's like one thing it's like I understand that the LGBTQ relationships
are very different than heterosexual relationships.
Like there's different protections that need to be made.
There's a lot of like behind the scenes stuff that we don't really or not we I don't take
into consideration but saying that love isn't love and then like I think that's the only
line that like maybe just didn't sit right with me especially when he's showing all these
issues between Bobby and Aaron that many other couples have had.
Yeah.
Like the big one.
The big one is Bobby's like insecurities with the type of men that catch Aaron's eye are
all these like big beefy like ripped guys whereas Bobby is more skinny.
I mean he's definitely in good shape.
Yeah he's like he's in good shape yeah but he's not like built.
Yeah.
Like he's just kind of like not really well muscle toned.
Like he's fit but he's not ripped.
Yeah.
So it's like all these like ripped guys are catching Aaron's eye and Bobby is recognizing
that and so he has this insecurity about him like are you even like really into me?
And like if you were just to swap one of those out with a female like I can relate that really
well to a heterosexual relationship where if a guy's looking at girls that don't seem
to match the physique or just the appearance of the girl that he's dating the girl can
get very insecure about like oh do you even find me attractive or do you find me like
desirable like because all these people that you're looking at don't look like me or the
people that catch your eye don't look like me.
Like it's an issue that not just like LGBTQ plus relationships have.
It's an issue that everyone has.
And so like when him saying like oh love isn't love and like kind of pushing that message
like isn't it though?
I think he was probably more so just like he wasn't really thinking about you know like
heterosexual relationships he was really just pushing just gay relationships.
That's yeah.
I know that there's like there's definitely different dynamics and everything that I mean
we're not aware of but that can be said with most relationships too because it's like no
I absolutely get where you're coming from.
Like I think I don't quite understand the different dynamics between even a heterosexual
relationship where maybe the woman is the breadwinner and the dad is the stay at home
dad.
Yeah.
Like I don't understand that dynamic just like I don't like it I can't quite understand
the dynamic of anyone kind of outside of what I am.
I can do my best to try and like grasp the concept but like I don't really.
You don't like look down upon it though right?
No no no no.
No like if Brielle freaking came home one day and was like hey I got offered a job and
doesn't that means you don't have to work anymore you'd get to stay at home and be with
Iris dude I'd freaking.
I'm in.
Quit that second.
I'd be like dope freaking call it my boss like that second and be like hey I quit.
I would be hit as stay at home dad so freaking quick.
And I've shared this with Brielle before I'm like if you get a job doing like anything
that can support us like I will quit so fast it'd make everyone's head spin.
Oh shit.
Oh I mean not saying that I'd freaking just like stop doing all the shit that I like doing
just I want to be a stay at home dad more.
And I love that.
If I had children I would I would feel the same way.
Yeah.
Getting into writing.
Like I said my score is significantly higher.
Like I am in maybe the mid 90s probably leaning more towards like 94 because I just thought
it was really well done.
The realism the stuff like it didn't feel like there was stuff that I could pull from
this movie and be like yeah I get that.
Like I've had situations where Braille's seen like noticed what kind of female catches my
eye and has had like insecurities like that.
Like I'm able to usually like squash them pretty quick but it makes sense.
Like it's something that I can relate to and there's a lot of situations that they had
that I could relate to.
Like as a straight man.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Then you.
Any notes on the writing?
I feel like I'm like dominating this conversation.
So sorry if I'm like cutting you off or anything.
No dude you're good man.
I mean honestly like so yeah I'm definitely matching Caleb's score with writing with 94.
But like honestly no you got like with the relationship side you definitely have a lot
more experience a lot more history with that because and you know I hate saying this I'm
a 26 year old man that has never been in a relationship with a man or a woman.
I've never been in a serious relationship.
Do I feel kind of ashamed for that?
Yeah.
But you know just it hasn't been my time yet.
I hope it will come.
And I'm sure I'll.
I feel like that's just the pressure that we were raised in to be way further ahead
than we are.
Yeah welcome to freaking Utah.
Yeah like if you freaking don't have your second child by the time you're 22 you're
like way freaking behind.
Yeah.
Like I swear it's like high school and then you go serve a mission for two years for the
church and then as soon as you come home you get married.
If you're not married within like six months you're freaking behind.
You're doing something wrong.
Yeah you should be in college graduate by 24 already have a child.
Like it's freaking nuts.
The pressure that they put.
And they you don't really get a chance to steer off the path.
Yeah and people that like that leave outside of Utah like struggle with that like really
bad.
Yeah.
Like I know my my sister in law freaking struggles with that really bad and she's in her 30s
I want to say.
And she like she's struggling with it like real bad.
Really.
And I'm like it's because we're raised in Utah.
You know like they put such a pressure on you.
I mean I don't want Iris to grow up with that pressure.
I'm like no she doesn't want to be in a relationship until she's like super old like more power
to you.
Yeah I absolutely agree.
Yeah so anyway moving on over to acting.
It's just the main two that we have is Billy Eichner who played Bobby and Luke McFarlane
who played Aaron.
Some of the extras or at least the extras of significance.
We have Guy Branham who played Henry.
Miss Lawrence who played Wanda.
T.S. Madison who played Angela.
Dot Marie Jones who played Cherry.
Jim Rash who played Robert.
Eve Lindley who played Tamara.
And I think that would be it.
They have like the hetero couple but I don't think they were in it enough to.
That's fair.
Yeah did you.
I forget where I found it out but actually so the husband is that so he's a gay man and
then the wife is actually bisexual.
No shit.
Yeah.
Good for them.
Yeah.
Like did they hire like all LGBT.
Yeah as far as I know the whole cast from what Billy Eichner said the whole cast is
LGBTQT.
Whole cast.
Nice.
Yeah.
Talk about inclusion.
Hell yeah dude.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I really appreciate that detail.
I do too.
It's like the same like disabilities like if they have someone that's supposed to have
a disability if they actually have that disability just kind of helps with the.
No.
Realism for me.
Yeah.
So I'm.
I love this cast.
I did too.
Oh my god.
I fell in love with all of them.
I.
Yeah.
Yeah like.
I mean Billy Eichner as Bobby was just amazing.
Oh my god he really was.
And then Luke McFarlane who played Aaron.
He was.
He was great and he played off like just that that bro vibe really freaking well.
Dude.
He straight up did.
He like honestly caught me off guard for how much I freaking loved his character.
I know I thought that he was kind of come off as douchey and when he kept like ghosting
Bobby in person like I was just like dude what the shit is your deal.
Yeah right.
And then like yeah once you get he becomes like and I feel like this can be said with
like anyone once they become like a little bit more vulnerable and start revealing their
their true selves like it really helps you just.
Learn to love that character and I think you did a great job.
Absolutely agree.
And he was amazing.
Yeah and gosh dude when Billy.
Was like he went through all the emotions.
With with everything like he went through like anger whenever Aaron was like pissing
him off and like just his like straightforward just bluntness was amazing calling Aaron out
on his shit.
And even the emotional scenes like when he was like down like on his couch freaking like
in tears like you could like really feel like the heartbreak.
Like they did an amazing job.
It was amazing how much chemistry these two had incredible.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
Like you could.
You could tell that there was like.
There's like a spark there I feel like and I don't know if that's just.
Like an attribute to how good their acting was or if there actually was one like if they
were to say like oh yeah we were into each other while filming this I would have been
like freaking yeah we know.
Yeah.
Freaking Luke Luke McFarlane right that's his name.
Yes.
So he actually during a Q&A I saw they actually asked him like hey was there like any like
scenes that had to be like cut out or you didn't film because like you just weren't
comfortable with it and he actually said that during one of the sex scenes you know him
and Billy Eichner were talking because apparently I didn't know this with any like sex scene
no matter if you know you're straight or gay like in any of those movies they actually
have like a sex coordinator on set just to you know make sure that it's looking real
and you know like all the movements are happening correctly.
I never knew that was very interesting.
But one when him and Billy Eichner were talking Billy Eichner made a suggestion should we
spit on each other and Luke's just like no no no I'm not into that no.
So yeah.
That's funny.
Yeah right.
Oh man.
It's it's cool.
It's it's weird the detail that goes into movies like a frickin sex coordinator.
Yeah that's that's hilarious.
And they're there.
I'll be real.
There was a couple of things that I saw where I'm like okay logistically though like does
that is that how that works.
So I.
That's funny.
Like it didn't happen very often but it did happen a little bit.
But yeah.
So out of the two because I mean it'd be hard for me to pick like a third out of the extras
because they were all just like super like do you have a top three.
So three just because I love this frickin energy.
It was Jim Rash who played Robert the the the bisexual rights guy.
Just I forget loved his energy so much.
He was fantastic.
So I would actually give him number three for my like if I had to pick an extra it would
definitely be him.
But for like one and two I would actually put Billy Eichner at number two.
I mean don't I love to choice.
I actually like I like it is neck and neck for these two like trust me.
I loved him in this movie.
I loved his energy so much.
Just he was fan frickin testing.
But I feel just for how much Luke McFarlane took me by like surprise of like how much
I loved his performance and his character.
Just like I was just amazed of how much I loved him in this movie.
I got to put him at number one.
Fair so yeah so completely fair.
I'd actually swap them neck and neck.
But yeah I would swap.
Absolutely.
Sorry I thought I heard I was talking.
Yeah I would swap them just bill Billy Eichner frickin love Billy Eichner dude.
He is so great.
Frickin love him.
Yeah but I mean that's it's it's like neck and neck.
Like yeah could easily be a coin flip.
It'd be actually more like a dice roll.
Yeah if I'm being like real honest.
Yeah where it's like maybe.
Like one and two would be Aaron and three four five and six would be Bobby.
Like fair enough.
Fair enough.
It's it's just like a little bit more than a than a coin flip for me.
Not quite like 50 50 but yeah.
No dude I get you man.
I get you.
I expect that.
I loved the two of them.
I thought they did an incredible job at selling every single emotion that they.
God that they had.
So loved it.
Loved it loved it loved it.
So with that and with how much I enjoyed the extras as well because I don't the only one
that I feel actually may have brought it down was Deborah Messing.
Like she kind of has that like she.
Oh man as much as I hate to say it she has she has not grown past the Will and Grace
acting ability.
I've never seen Will and Grace.
So it's a sitcom.
Because I know Sean Hazes is in it.
OK.
Yeah.
So it is very sitcom acting and it the way that she was delivering her lines felt very
sitcom me.
OK.
So yeah I she's like the only one like I'm not like docking it a ton because obviously
it's she was in like a quick two scene.
Yeah.
So I think I'm going to be at maybe in 91.
OK.
I think I'm just going to go slightly higher than 93.
Completely fair.
All right.
Next up we got character development which for this one who did you end up doing.
I did Billy.
You did Billy.
I actually ended up doing Aaron.
OK.
So explain like your thought process with Aaron or Billy.
Sorry.
Um so no I think he had a really good character development was starting like at the beginning
of the movie where he's just like you know what I've kind of accepted that you know I'm
going to be single for the rest of my life and I'm actually OK with it.
You know I'm happy with my life.
I enjoy what I do to actually you know like meeting someone at the club.
He like is just like oh you know he's boring.
You know he's just like a big buff idiot but actually like you know like starting to get
to know him actually talking going out on a couple of dates.
I'm using quotations even though you guys can't you know see my hands.
I was going to say who are those four.
Yeah.
And that actually leading them into you know actually starting to have a relationship but
then it coming to an end and then it coming you know them actually ending up together.
I feel that seeing his character from going for from someone that you know truly thought
they was going to be single for the rest of his life to actually ending up being with
someone even though they said that you know we'll be together for three months and then
we'll reassess.
It's definitely not a like oh yeah we're totally going to get married.
That's going to happen.
We don't know if that is going to happen even includes that in the song.
He's just like we don't have to get married.
This is our own romance.
But I loved that.
I thought it was a great character arc and I didn't really have a lot of problems with
it because the way that they set Billy up at the beginning of how he is about being
in relationships and how he ends up in one at the end it made total sense and he him
and Aaron made it on their own boundaries.
It just made sense for not only Billy for Aaron made sense for both characters.
So where would you put the his character development score then?
For me I would say hmm I would say a solid 90.
Yeah that's that's definitely fair.
The reason I decided to go with Aaron was because I felt he had slightly more growth
than Bobby did.
That's fair.
He was like because he was starting off kind of in the same realm.
He was just kind of jumping around from person to person or couple to couple depending on
the situation.
So he he was just doing a lot of like hopscotching and I liked when he was very like anti relationship
at the beginning.
He didn't really want a relationship with Bobby.
Like he wanted to like flirt and everything and like kind of got his attention through
how different Bobby is from like the people that he's typically into which are ripped
and dumb.
Ripped idiots with no opinion as Bobby would say.
Yeah exactly.
And so he grew into someone that didn't like in he grew into someone that appreciated what
Bobby offered to him where it was constantly challenging him.
Like hey why don't you pursue the things that you want to do?
Like why don't you do this?
Why don't you do that?
Like questioning his opinions and and I think he put it best.
He's like apparently I really enjoy being questioned all the time.
He's like who would?
But I do.
And it's it's true.
Like if you fall into a relationship or situation where it's just purely out of comfort and
it's like you don't really have any opinion because like for him he doesn't like being
in the situation that he was in before Bobby jumping from person to person.
He never got to establish a connection with someone.
Never got to be uncomfortable by being open and vulnerable.
He just had to be there and he was just kind of kind of letting life live him.
Yeah.
Instead of like living his own life and then he like with meeting Bobby kind of had that
growth that realization like hey I want something more than this.
He wants something more than like figuring out where people's money go when they die.
Yeah I'll fully admit that one that would be one depressing job.
Yeah I could not do that.
There's someone for every job like that.
It's true.
I'm kudos to anyone that can do that.
Like seriously kudos to you.
Yeah definitely not a job that I could have.
No right now.
But yeah like he like slowly had that growth like realizing like oh I don't like this.
And coming out to Bobby and saying like I want to be a chocolatier and like having that
growth and getting to the point where he actually goes to do it and like taking that step being
courageous like Bobby would or how he thinks Bobby would be and everything.
It just showed a lot of internal assessment and a lot of growth from Aaron.
And then also kind of just realizing that he had to be a better person as well.
Like I think that kind of came out when he was talking to his brother which I think that
relationship was played off really realistic as well.
And he was talking to his brother and he's wanting to talk about his issues and he's
like I've been sitting here and I'm like super depressed and everything and you haven't asked
anything about it.
He's like I'm going through a divorce.
You haven't asked me about that.
And he's like okay how's your divorce going?
I don't want to talk about it.
Oh dude that was so freaking funny.
I know but like with conversations that I have with my brother that's exactly how they
go.
Oh dude I could totally see you and Bronson having an exact conversation like that.
Yeah and it's word for word.
Our conversations like that are always when we're playing video games.
That's hilarious.
Like he always wants to have these deep discussions on life when we're in the middle of like shooting
up of small village of criminals.
Oh that's funny.
And it's funny but yeah it's like it's one of those just like super realistic things.
Like that's something that actually happens and I think Aaron had that moment of realization
that he could be a better brother.
And like I said just lots of growth from him.
So I thought his arc was really really good.
As for where I would put it I actually might be right in line with you at 90.
Hell yeah.
I like it.
Alright moving on over to effects which with a movie like this there wasn't really any
special effects.
It was more practical I guess but more like cinematography.
Yeah I mean I really don't have any problems with it.
I think they did a great job.
Unfortunately and I know like I'm probably going to catch shit for this, this and music
are where my score kind of takes a dive.
Not a significant one.
I know we're going to differ on music though.
Like this one will be very interesting to see where we both end up.
Yeah so like the cinematography was good.
I think they could have done a little bit better.
Like there were some things that needed to be edited out.
Like as funny as it was the I think they needed to move the Night at the Museum bit somewhere
else because it felt very weird that he brings him into this room and is like look and they
have the whole Night at the Museum thing and then they leave.
It felt very abrupt and like okay because it went from like very emotional scene to
this Night at the Museum gag to another like very emotional scene.
And I'm like what the shit was that?
Like freaking emotional whiplash.
And I feel like it just kind of drew away from it.
I think that they should have had like the total of the emotional scenes and then thrown
in the gags.
Yeah okay.
Like showing that they actually did the roller coaster of trauma.
Or dude that because I don't want to say the joke on this podcast but there is a joke in
that that I laughed my freaking ass off at.
Yeah so I appreciated that and so I think that's where that gag should have fit in.
Fair enough.
They should have thrown the Night at the Museum thing there because it was like okay we would
have gotten it.
We know eventually Aaron would have seen it.
We didn't need to see Aaron see it.
Yeah fair enough.
So like I think it would have worked better in like the montage of like all the things
that the Museum had to offer.
So yeah.
There were some slight issues there and again it was pretty well shot but did have a very
90s feel.
And like I said this is I'm actually putting this like maybe a little bit higher than my
story.
So where story I gave an 85 I'm probably going to give this an 86.
It's not much higher but it's just a little bit higher but it was slightly above average
for me.
That's fair.
I think I might just be like slightly higher than you so I'll go an 88.
Alright next up we got music.
So I want to see where you're at first.
Okay so I know that like throughout the whole movie there really isn't that much music but
the final song that Billy Eichner sings to Aaron, Love is Not Love to the tune of a Garth
Brooks song I just freaking fell in love with like honestly it's been on freaking repeat
since last night on Spotify.
I love it so much and like it has such a sweet message about the relationship and just I
think it's so good.
So for me I would actually give I feel like Caleb's going to hate me first.
I'm giving music an 8.
Gosh you said we were going to be different.
That's actually where I'd put it.
Oh shit.
I thought that song was like good enough where I assumed you were going to give it like a
9 or 10.
And I'm like dude there's no freaking way that this was a 10.
Okay well I guess we're in agreeance it's an 8.
That's funny.
That's really funny.
The yeah the music was that song was good and the like the rest of the music that was
in this movie was were things that worked with the scenes.
It was pretty good.
I don't I actually might be leaning more towards a 7 if I'm like being honest.
Yeah just because like out like with this I'm trying to see let me see what this soundtrack
was before I get like crazy because I'm not the best with remembering the songs and I
usually take a minute to like listen to those songs like after.
Okay oh there were only two soundtrack sound track credits.
Really?
Holy shit.
Yeah they have She's Like the Wind performed by Patrick Swayze and then Love is Not Love.
I forgot about that.
Okay taking that into consideration that song into consideration and how well everything
the score that they had seemed to work with the scenes.
This is where it felt like very 90s to me.
So with that I'll leave it at an 8.
I'm not gonna be sure.
I'm gonna be a dick.
That's not you being a dick.
No like what I'm thinking is if I were if we had this available I'd probably give it
a seven and a half but it would just average out to an eight because we round up.
Yeah okay.
Yeah so I'm leaving it at an eight just because it would be an eight regardless and we don't
have a 7.5 option.
Okay so yeah.
Alright next up we got costumes.
I feel where this Mike movie like shot I mean for the most part it's mostly just you know
like regular like day-to-day costumes you know like not costumes but you know like what
people wear.
What I feel like definitely like vibrant.
What's the word?
I don't know the freaking word.
Vibrancy.
That is not a word.
Vibrancy?
Yeah there we go.
I feel what scene brought that to this movie is when Billy has to go to the pride parade
and um shit where was the town that they went?
Uh Provincetown?
Yeah that's what it is.
You know just you seeing like all of the drag queens everyone just in their pride merch
was freaking awesome.
I loved it.
So if I were to give like any like props to like different types of costumes it would
definitely be because of that pride parade that we see.
And also I mean even the freaking outfits that they are wearing for the museum opening
that night.
Freaking some of the stuff that people were wearing were pretty freaking like gorgeous
like they knew how to freaking like dress up.
But I feel it's nothing like super super special.
I mean it was awesome like seeing all of this you know like people like really showing off
their pride.
It was great.
But I feel it's nothing like what's the word like oh my god this is like this like changed
the whole aspect of the movie.
So for me costumes I'm gonna sit at a 7.
Not a 77.
That is actually exactly where I was sitting too.
Damn this is really funny.
Dude here I go thinking that we're like gonna be drastically different on this shit and
no like not even a little bit.
The only one that we kind of like disagreed with was music but I kind of talked myself
up.
You did.
Yeah you really did.
But yeah like nothing too special about the costumes unfortunately.
It was just average everyday wear for everyone.
And then just the little sprinkles on top were the outfits with pride and the museum
opening.
Like you said.
So it ended up working out.
So 7 it is.
Alright last up we got our own personal score.
You want to go first?
Up to you.
I don't care.
Well pick one Rose.
Fine.
I'll go first.
So after I saw this movie I literally texted Caleb and I'm just like yeah I don't even
think Halloween ends can beat this movie for my number one movie of the year because I
fucking loved this movie.
That's literally what I texted him.
I loved this movie from the acting to the story.
Just everything was so great and just seeing a rom com about the LGBTQ community was just
so great and I loved it so much.
I have very little problems with it and god I loved it so so much.
So I am super high.
And the high that I am at is I'm at a 96.
Damn.
I loved this movie man.
I loved this movie.
It was a good one.
It was a good one for sure.
I had an absolute blast with this movie and I did have a funny interaction with people
thinking I was going to have to beat the shit out of some old man.
The guy hitting on you in the bathroom.
Oh my god.
That is just amazing.
Yeah so but yeah like after I was able to get over that and like sit and watch the movie
it was a really good watch.
Like it felt for someone like me very educational.
Like I learned some things about that community that I didn't know before and I feel like
I'm a better person for having learned that which I appreciate.
The jokes were on point super funny and this is a good just romantic story a little raunchy
for my taste.
But yeah I'm yeah I think like the sex was a little like much but it wasn't I would I
want to say it's not because it made me uncomfortable or anything.
It just felt a little excessive at times.
I actually wanted to like ask you like did it ever feel like a little too uncomfortable.
I just didn't know how to ask you without being like a dick about it.
Yeah I think my only honestly the only one that like really kind of just okay.
Was the orgy wasn't it?
Yeah it was the yeah yeah the orgy.
Like the first one the first one when they were at the fake baseball player.
That was the only one.
The one that they had at the Christmas party was freaking hilarious.
Just the guy that kept trying to jump in and then he gets Billy to Bobby sorry to give
him a freaking back rub just oh my god or not back rub was he rubbing his back?
No it was his legs.
Yeah that's what it was.
I thought that was super funny that yeah the only one that I would have taken out was like
that first little orgy.
Everything else was freaking hilarious.
So love that.
But yeah really good time.
I cannot wait to rewatch this and try and catch some of the dialogue that I missed last
time.
But overall amazing time.
Really recommend this movie to anyone who's open to seeing this.
Like you kind of I feel like you kind of have to know what you're getting into with this
one.
Yeah you would like if you're a person that definitely does not like seeing men having
sex.
Definitely do not go to this movie.
Because yeah you're definitely going to see a lot of it.
And I think that's kind of something that just attributed to how not well this movie
performed.
I think just it being.
I hate that because like we you'll see movies with men and women having sex and this kind
of stuff but yet that movie will make millions of dollars.
But when it's two men well.
No that's too much.
Do romantic comedies do well?
They do decently.
Like they definitely make their budget back and then some.
But unfortunately Bros is only made like four million.
And it was I don't say that's made.
So the budget was twenty two million twenty two million and it's only made five point
three million.
Because yeah because for the opening Universal was projecting it to make about ten million.
And it came in under budget with only like four point eight or it came in under projection.
Yeah.
So really sucks.
But I mean Billy Eichner came on after him being like hey you know I if it does well
it does well if it doesn't I don't care.
I'm proud of this movie.
I'm really glad that we made it.
And hopefully it's a step in the right direction for movies like this with inclusion.
I feel that this movie is going to hit its stride on streaming.
I hope so.
I really do.
Because this movie deserves the attention.
It deserves it.
Absolutely.
But yeah.
So with that I think I'm going to be giving this a solid 90 for my personal score.
I love it.
Like I mean I've said this before.
I'm a sucker for a good romcom.
And this was a really good romcom.
So yeah I can't say enough nice things about this movie.
But anyway so that concludes this week's breakdown.
So to go through the categories starting off with story we gave this an 87.5.
The writing scored significantly higher at a 94.
Acting came down to a 92.
Character development sitting at a solid 90.
Effects just a little bit lower at an 87.
Music we gave an 8 out of 10.
We gave a 7 out of 10.
And our personal score averaged to a 93.
So with that magic the final All Bros letter grade for Bros has come to a B plus.
Okay I was really hoping it was going to be an A minus.
I'll take it.
B plus.
It is really close.
Okay.
Like how close?
It's um.
So it is sitting at.
Where is it?
Okay so it is sitting at an 88.56%.
Okay so yeah that is really close.
Yeah it is ridiculously close.
So the cutoff is 90 and there's quite a few movies that are above it but the margin it
is seriously.
Let's see.
It is 1.5% away from being an A minus.
Okay I'll take it.
Yeah it's um.
Let me see real quick.
So like from the top, so our top movie is Spider-Man No Way Home.
So from the top and out of the over 200 movies that we've broken down or have scores for
it's sitting at number 58.
Which seems low.
But like hold on.
Let me pull on my calculator real quick.
Oh you're like trying to make me feel better.
I know I'm about to do some serious math.
Dude you don't have to prove anything.
It's fine that it got a B plus.
I feel bad you're like trying to be like, Rose it's okay Rose it's okay.
It's still ranked very high.
I promise you.
No you think I'm doing that.
Oh.
Um.
No it's just we've done so many movies that have ended up at a B plus.
Yeah so the difference between Spider-Man No Way Home which is our number one movie
right now sitting at a 97%.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
Bros is a little bit under 9% difference.
Okay.
Yeah so like I said the margins on our B plus movies are ridiculously tight.
Damn that's.
Holy shit that's okay.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So in our ranking.
So it is sitting at an 88.56% which puts it below Top Gun Maverick which is at an 88.62.
Okay.
Also at an 88.62 is Luca.
Okay.
So it's below Luca and Top Gun Maverick.
It is below the Unicorn Store which is at an 88.87.
I know your feelings about that movie have changed.
Drastically but it's okay.
It is also below it is also below the Mitchells versus the Machines.
Okay.
It is below the updated score for Spider-Man Far From Home.
Vic, DJ, I'm coming after you guys.
I'm just kidding.
I know our original was higher.
Oh shit it was.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Alright never mind guys.
I have both scores on here.
So I have like our normal like Spider-Man Far From Home so the one that we originally
did I have the updated for like Far From Home so that's like our original score and Crash
and DJ's scores so it's lower.
So our original score for Spider-Man Far From Home was 89.35.
Adding their scores it brought it down to an 89.2.
Okay so yeah it really didn't change that much.
Okay.
And then I also have just their scores on here as well.
So there are three scores for Spider-Man Far From Home.
One of them is ours.
One of them is theirs and then one of them is the updated like combined.
So what was theirs alone?
Theirs alone was a 90.93 so it was sitting at an A minus by themselves which is funny
because our original was lower so you would think that their score should have brought
it up.
Yeah exactly.
But it didn't.
Which I find hilarious.
Yeah that's freaking hilarious.
I love that so much.
That yeah.
Oh that yeah.
Freaking love math.
And the last one that it was that Bros was below was Rise of the Planet of the Apes which
is what which was at an 89.25 percent.
Okay for any Planet of the Apes movies I'll accept that.
Yeah going the opposite direction it is sitting above How to Train Your Dragon 2 which is
at an 88.37 and I think that's like some big praise there.
Yeah that's awesome.
It is also above The Invisible Man which is at an 88.23.
Wow this one's gonna be interesting for you.
It is above The Prom which was at an 88.12.
I'm absolutely okay with that because yeah I love this movie more.
Yeah fair.
It is also above Raya and The Last Dragon which is at an 87.81 and then finally it is
above Parasite which is at an 87.59.
Okay not bad.
Yeah not bad at all.
Like I know it's one of our middle B plus movies but like I've said before the margins
are tight.
Yeah dude.
They're so freaking tight.
Like we're getting like when we do this ranking we're usually within either a hundredth or
even a thousandth difference between these movies.
Like it's ridiculous.
So saying like our ranking kind of doesn't mean shit.
Like it's seriously more for us just to be like hey what's our actual ranking but in
all reality it's usually just us being like B plus.
Alright.
So yeah.
Hell yeah well I would say that concludes this breakdown.
Would you agree Caleb?
I would say yes.
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Next week we'll be breaking down Hocus Pocus 2.
How long has it been since the first one?
I can't remember.
A really long time.
It's been over 30 years right?
It's really close to 30.
I think it's like 29.
Oh yeah it's like 29.
Yeah.
It's like the 100th year of Disney or something like that.
Okay.
So yeah.
We'll be breaking down Hocus Pocus 2.
If you guys want to watch it before you hear us break it down you can do so on Disney Plus.
It is a Disney Plus original film.
Which I don't know if you saw.
Apparently it's actually the most Disney or Disney announced it's the most streamed Disney
Plus original movie to date.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that's awesome.
Yeah.
I mean they've had killer marketing for it so that's not too surprising.
They have.
Yeah.
And a lot of the Hocus Pocus fans have been waiting for this movie so I'm still amazed
that it actually got off the ground.
Like it actually got made.
Like I'm still amazed.
But yeah so that will be next week on the podcast but until then this has been the Allbrows
podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we will catch you guys next week.
I don't think I have it in me to do the Mickey voice.
I'm sorry because I'm still getting over a little bit of a cold.
Man you're lame.
Do you want me to get do you want me to lose my voice again?
Do it.
OK.
If I lose my voice again I swear I'm going to kill you.
All right.
Ha ha see you real soon.
No yeah no.
That was awful.
Deuces.