1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,920 What is up bros, I'm Caleb. 2 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,920 And I'm Jonathan. 3 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,520 And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews 4 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,880 out there with as little bias as possible. 5 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Welcome to the all bros. 6 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,860 This week on the podcast in 4k spotlight we only have one new item to talk about. 7 00:00:43,860 --> 00:00:47,480 And then we will be getting into this week's headliner where we will be breaking down 8 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:56,160 Hocus Pocus to the long anticipated sequel to the original Hocus Pocus. 9 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,400 Cult Classic. 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Cult Classic. 11 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,560 So with that let's say we get straight into it. 12 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Let's do it. 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Every day we're surrounded by media. 14 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:20,600 Books, movies, art, music, games, apps, podcasts, etc. etc. 15 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,840 With this constant bombardment it's easy to miss great media gems in the chaos. 16 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 But fret not, you've come to the right place my friend. 17 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,040 I'm Jason and I love media. 18 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,800 I invite you to check out the Mixed Media Forest podcast. 19 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:43,720 The podcast where I trudge through the forests of media to find hidden gems for you, the 20 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,320 listener. 21 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Every episode of Mixed Media Forest is chock full of fun, reviews, nostalgia, positivity, 22 00:01:53,080 --> 00:02:00,360 news, rants, stories, and recommendations about all things media. 23 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:08,020 Again, that's the Mixed Media Forest podcast created on Anchor podcasting app and available 24 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:11,040 everywhere find podcasts can be found. 25 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,400 Give it a listen. 26 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,600 That's what all the cool kids are doing. 27 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Alrighty, like we said, starting off with 4K Spotlight we only have one movie to talk 28 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,100 about this week and that is the release of Bullet Train. 29 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:29,440 So Rose would you like to tell everyone about that and where it's coming? 30 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Uh, yes I would love to and uh, hey Caleb I just realized that I lied there's actually 31 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 uh two other big releases coming out I'm sorry. 32 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,640 Oh you son of a bitch! 33 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:41,960 Every freaking week Rose! 34 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,440 I know, I know I'm so good at this. 35 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,560 I do it just to fuck with you. 36 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,720 I think I've come to that point. 37 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,720 It feels, it's starting to feel like it. 38 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Oh shit. 39 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:59,080 Uh, alright anyway so yeah Bullet Train is coming to 4K and Blu-ray as well as a Best 40 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Buy exclusive steelbook. 41 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,760 I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna double check on this. 42 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,320 Never mind it is not a Best Buy exclusive steelbook so you can actually get this steelbook 43 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:14,080 anywhere or by anywhere I really mean like Target and Amazon that's usually Target, Amazon 44 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,720 and Best Buy that's usually if a steelbook is a wide release those are usually the three 45 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,560 that will always carry it. 46 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,760 But besides Bullet Train we're also getting Orphan First Kill. 47 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,080 I haven't even seen the first one yet but I've heard it's really good. 48 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,200 I've heard the sequel is actually decent so I kind of want to see both now. 49 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Are those movies? 50 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 I thought those were TV shows. 51 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,920 No they're movies. 52 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,920 What the hell? 53 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Yeah. 54 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Okay. 55 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Yeah. 56 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Um, and so yeah I know like Orphan First Kill I know like I think it was in theaters and 57 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,600 on Paramount Plus at the exact same time so. 58 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Okay yeah I've seen it on Paramount Plus a lot and I'm like oh that's cool they made a 59 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,040 movie based off of this show. 60 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,800 I didn't like I it was such like a big thing like Orphan was just such a big thing. 61 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,480 I always thought it was a show because like people were promoting it like everywhere so 62 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,160 I don't know where I got that wrong. 63 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 You're good man. 64 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Dude I remember the first one freaking came out when we were in junior high I swear. 65 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:26,600 Holy shit. 66 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,360 Yeah the first one is that old. 67 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,740 Like how many movies are there is it? 68 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:37,280 It's just the original on this one. 69 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:38,280 Okay. 70 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:39,800 Yeah there's just two. 71 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,960 That's freaking weird like why did I think it was a show? 72 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,640 I wish I knew. 73 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:59,160 But besides that the last big release coming out is a movie that me and Caleb were very 74 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,720 divisive on. 75 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Or you know what I mean I didn't really like it but he like somewhat liked it. 76 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:13,880 That's Paws of Fury the Legend of Hank that is coming to Blu-ray as well this Tuesday. 77 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,120 I like the writing I think that was the only thing that we like really disagreed on was 78 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,080 the writing. 79 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,800 Everything else was pretty close. 80 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,600 Okay all right. 81 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,200 But yeah so that is what is coming out this Tuesday. 82 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Nice. 83 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Well with that out of the way let's move on to this week's headliner where we break down 84 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Hocus Pocus 2. 85 00:05:48,000 --> 00:06:09,480 Yes let's do it. 86 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,920 Alrighty like we said we will be breaking down Hocus Pocus 2. 87 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,160 So if you are new to our breakdown system the way that we break down movies over here 88 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:25,280 is we have split them into eight different categories that we individually scored come 89 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:29,920 to a final all bros letter grade. 90 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:35,480 And the eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, 91 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:41,000 effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end. 92 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,120 All of those numbers get magically added up thrown into our algorithm and sped out a letter 93 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:51,600 grade for us to compare to other movies of similar grades and a percentage to break down 94 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,880 a hierarchy of our movies. 95 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,960 So if you have not seen Hocus Pocus 2 it is currently available to stream on Disney Plus 96 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,520 so definitely go check that out. 97 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,640 If you listen past this point Rose is about to read off the entire synopsis for the film 98 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 and it will be spoiled for you. 99 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,880 So if you don't want it spoiled stop listening now go watch the movie come back and join 100 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,160 us for this breakdown. 101 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:36,040 So anyway if you have chosen to listen past this point it is your own damn fault if the 102 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,260 movie gets ruined for you. 103 00:07:37,260 --> 00:07:42,120 So without further ado our favorite segment reading with Rose everyone. 104 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,280 Okay let's see if I can go without screwing this up. 105 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:54,600 In 1653 Salem a young Winifred Sanderson is banished from Salem by Reverend Trask, hope 106 00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,720 I said that right, after she defied the authority of the church by refusing to marry John Pritchett. 107 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,840 Rather than let her sisters Mary and Sarah be taken away from her Winifred escapes with 108 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,720 them to a nearby forbidden forest. 109 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,440 There they make the acquaintance of Mother Witch who gifts Winifred her magic book for 110 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,640 her 16th birthday but explicitly warns the sisters against casting a spell known as 111 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:28,040 the Magicae Maxima which makes the user all powerful. 112 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Mother Witch also teaches the sisters to kill other children to keep their youthfulness. 113 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:40,560 In 2022 29 years after the Sanderson sisters were resurrected by the Black Flame Candle 114 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:45,400 Salem teenagers Becca and Izzy prepare to celebrate both Halloween and Becca's 16th 115 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,480 birthday but turn down a party invitation from their estranged friend Cassie Trask. 116 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Becca and Izzy visit a magic shop formerly the Sanderson cottage run by Gilbert who 117 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,000 gifts Becca a candle for their annual birthday ritual. 118 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,120 Becca and Izzy light the candle and discover that it is another Black Flame Candle as they 119 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,520 are a full moon and the girls are both virgins the candle resurrects the Sanderson sisters 120 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,260 once again. 121 00:09:09,260 --> 00:09:14,720 The girls manage to outwit the sisters in a local Walgreens and then escape to the magic 122 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,640 shop where they discover that Gilbert tricked them into reviving the sisters having seen 123 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,720 them on Halloween back in 1993 and been taught how to make the candle by book. 124 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,280 The sisters catch up to the girls and see a campaign flyer belonging to Mayor Trask, 125 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Cassie's father and Reverend Trask's direct descendant. 126 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,620 Mayor decides they will cast the Magicae maxima spell to eliminate Trask and take revenge 127 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:38,860 on Salem. 128 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:43,780 The sisters trap Izzy and Becca in the basement and leave to hunt down Trask whose blood is 129 00:09:43,780 --> 00:09:45,440 needed to complete the spell. 130 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,560 They force Gilbert to collect the other ingredients. 131 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:55,180 The girls escape and head to the Trask house to warn the mayor while the sisters find their 132 00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:59,800 way to the town's Halloween carnival and enchant the citizens to help find the mayor. 133 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Meanwhile Gilbert digs up Billy Butcherson who has been awake but entombed since 1993. 134 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Gilbert needs Billy's head for the spell but tricks Billy into helping him collect the 135 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,600 other ingredients first. 136 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,360 The girls reunite with Cassie and manage to trap the sisters within a salt circle in Cassie's 137 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,960 garage before Mayor Trask returns home. 138 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,840 The three teenagers make amends with one another but their reunion is interrupted when the 139 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,280 sisters escape the circle and kidnap Cassie to use her blood instead. 140 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Becca and Izzy follow them to the Forbidden Forest where Gilbert has assembled the ingredients 141 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,960 and soon discover that Becca is also a witch. 142 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,080 The sisters partially cast the spell and increase their power but Becca distracts them while 143 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Izzy rescues Cassie. 144 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,560 Becca manages to convince Book that it does not have to answer to Winifred and Becca 145 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,080 and Book flee further into the forest. 146 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Book shows them a warning about the Magicae maxima spell saying that whoever casts it 147 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,200 must give up what they cherish most. 148 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,320 The girls agree to warn Winifred of the price of the spell but are too late. 149 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Winifred becomes all powerful as Mary and Sarah fade to dust. 150 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,860 Winifred grows despondent and begs the teenagers to use their newfound powers to save her sisters. 151 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:12,480 While they cannot save the two, Becca, Cassie, and Izzy join together in a coven and cast 152 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,440 a reuniting spell and Winifred happily fades away to be reunited with her sisters. 153 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:23,040 The girls are joined by Gilbert and Billy while Billy starts to fade away, realizing 154 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:29,480 that all of Winifred's spells have been undone and relief to finally be headed to his eternal 155 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,560 rest. 156 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:35,000 The girls decide to give Book a new home and continue practicing their magic as they walk 157 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,400 off into the night in a similar manner as the Sanderson sisters. 158 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:45,600 As they leave, a crow identical to the one that Mother Witch had shape shift into flies 159 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,080 overhead. 160 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:53,400 And they do not include the end credits scene. 161 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Did you watch the end credits scene? 162 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Yes. 163 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,200 I did watch it on accident. 164 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,720 What do you mean by accident? 165 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,120 Okay, so when I was watching it, I meant to turn it off, right? 166 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:12,760 But I got distracted doing something and so I just kind of like let the credits play through. 167 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:19,000 And then when I was like walking over to like turn my TV off, then the end credits scene 168 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,520 started and I was just like, oh shit. 169 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Oh, that's funny. 170 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,320 Yeah, so I caught that completely on accident. 171 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:33,320 I wouldn't have on their normal circumstances, but yeah. 172 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,320 That's funny. 173 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,360 I mean, it's really nothing. 174 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:42,280 It kind of just teases a Hocus Pocus 3 if there is one of a black cat in the Sanderson 175 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Sisters cottage jumping up to where there lies a second or there's a box that says, 176 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,080 black flame candle number two. 177 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,000 And then that that's it. 178 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Yeah, that doesn't even that doesn't make sense though. 179 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,600 It doesn't. 180 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,280 How many freaking black flame candles are there? 181 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Yeah, well, okay. 182 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,700 It's understandable that they have another one. 183 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:16,000 But it's like, why would they tease that unless they plan on doing like another one of these 184 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000 movies? 185 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,600 But if you do another Hocus Pocus movie, you can't include the Sanderson Sisters. 186 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,400 They're freaking dust now. 187 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Yeah. 188 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:29,620 I mean, this is some bullshit where they keep like reappearing every time there's a freaking 189 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:32,240 candle. 190 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,360 I mean, that's what I thought. 191 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,200 Like when they first resurrected them in this one, I'm like, okay, wait, I thought because 192 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:43,040 in the first one, when you know, like they get rid of the Sanderson Sisters and Binks 193 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,080 is able to actually exit from being a cat and his soul is able to lay to rest, like 194 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,360 he actually gets to join his family, I thought that meant like, oh, yeah, the Sanderson Sisters 195 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,040 are completely dead. 196 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,880 They can't come back. 197 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,040 Yeah, there's some freaking plot holes in this movie. 198 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,900 There really is. 199 00:14:02,900 --> 00:14:08,360 The tie ins were not as good as I thought they were going to be. 200 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Like yeah, just get getting like straight into this, this story. 201 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,200 It really failed. 202 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:23,760 The only nostalgia button that they happened to push on me was seeing the Sanderson Sisters 203 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,760 again. 204 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Other than that, they didn't hit shit. 205 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:39,080 I agree and even, and this is nothing, I have a problem with one of the Sanderson Sisters 206 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:48,000 because for me, like we've talked about in the first one, you cannot tell at all that 207 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Sarah Jessica Parker is Sarah. 208 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,160 Oh yeah. 209 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,340 I had no issue knowing that was her. 210 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:59,320 This one, I'm sorry, like no matter how hard she tried, I'm like, yeah, no, that's still 211 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Sarah Jessica Parker. 212 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:07,640 Like I don't know what it was like, Bette Midler and Kathy Najimy, I feel like they, 213 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,760 they went right back into their roles like that. 214 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Like I mean, even I feel honestly, Kathy Najimy even a little bit more in this one than the 215 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,920 first one. 216 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,200 But I don't know. 217 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,920 All I could see was Sarah Jessica Parker. 218 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:30,880 It didn't, it's fair, but it's also she didn't like, she didn't lose herself in the role 219 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,880 like she did. 220 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,880 She didn't. 221 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:38,840 And honestly, I might actually blame that on writing because I feel she is still trying 222 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,840 her best here. 223 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,320 I feel all three are. 224 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Yeah, absolutely. 225 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,160 Like she was giving like similar enough performance. 226 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,520 It just wasn't highlighted enough. 227 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,520 Yeah. 228 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 Yeah, absolutely agree. 229 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Which sucks. 230 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,520 Yeah. 231 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Oh, it very much does. 232 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Like I had a hard time. 233 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Like the story was boring. 234 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,920 It really was. 235 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:14,920 Like even like the whole like scene where they're like in the Walgreens and like, I didn't even 236 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,840 really find that that funny. 237 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,120 No, dude. 238 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:23,360 It's I didn't find anything in this movie funny. 239 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Like even like Mary like flying around on like those like those vacuums. 240 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,840 I didn't think that was funny. 241 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,480 No, me either. 242 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:39,600 The only thing that I got that maybe got a chuckle out of me was the freaking Roombas 243 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:46,280 and just like how they happen to be perfect enough to like come and vacuum up the salt 244 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,480 that had them trapped. 245 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Oh, yeah. 246 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:56,440 But it like that was the only thing and they had the ingredients for a good movie. 247 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,200 It's just the execution on this was just horrendous. 248 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,400 What's funny is, okay, I can think of one scene that actually made me laugh and it's 249 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,880 not even like the three OGs playing the Sanderson sisters. 250 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,280 It's the flashback at the beginning. 251 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,800 It's when the girl that plays young Winifred, she's just like, no, I don't want to marry 252 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,800 him. 253 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,080 I want to marry Billy Butcherson and Billy, the kid that plays Billy, he's just like, 254 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,640 why me? 255 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:23,640 I don't know why. 256 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,640 That was actually really funny. 257 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,640 Yep. 258 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,640 That got me too. 259 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,640 Yeah. 260 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,640 Now that I'm thinking about it. 261 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Yeah, that definitely got me too. 262 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,560 It was it was rough, dude. 263 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,080 This was a really tough watch. 264 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,160 I wish Kenny Ortega could have come back to direct this sequel. 265 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,640 I agree, dude. 266 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,760 Like, it's a sequel. 267 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,400 Like, I get it. 268 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Hogan's Focus is remembered as, for many, one of the greatest Halloween films ever made. 269 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Like it's so nostalgic. 270 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,880 It's one that like so many people go back to every year. 271 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,680 I probably don't watch it every single year, but I've seen it very many times. 272 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:12,040 But I've everyone was just like so pushing for a sequel, like, oh, yeah, we want one. 273 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,640 We want one when it really didn't need one. 274 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,280 And this movie showcases that it did not need a sequel. 275 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,680 It was a perfect standalone movie. 276 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Yeah, the it was just it was rough, dude. 277 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:34,100 I like that it kind of tied up some loose ends a little bit. 278 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:37,640 Like what happened with the book? 279 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,640 Yeah, I would agree. 280 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,160 I will agree with that. 281 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:48,240 Like it tied that up nicely and it tied up the whole like Billy being asleep for the 282 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,240 past many years. 283 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Hell what is it? 284 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,620 I don't know. 285 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:57,040 It just lacked. 286 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,440 It's just the necessity wasn't there. 287 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Now like it was. 288 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,160 Yeah. 289 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,640 I mean, I'll give them this. 290 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,680 The way that they did bring them back like completely made sense. 291 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Why another black, black flame candle? 292 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,280 I can totally buy into that. 293 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,960 Dude, I will even say with this one, the weight like the introduction of how they come back, 294 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:25,280 like how like the first one, they literally they're in the their cottage and they open 295 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,120 the door and bam, there they are. 296 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:30,440 Whereas in this one, I actually love that you actually get to see them risen up from 297 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,440 hell. 298 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Yeah, that was awesome. 299 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,480 That was freaking awesome. 300 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,880 Yeah, that is really cool. 301 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:43,000 But that's like one of the only cool things I got for the sequel. 302 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Yeah. 303 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,680 And then it's just I don't know. 304 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,240 This is more of a writing issue. 305 00:19:49,240 --> 00:20:03,200 But the the the use of the performance was used in the in the first one was used in a 306 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840 way that it made sense. 307 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,280 Yes. 308 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Here they had multiple performances that just did not land like when they were singing the 309 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,680 Witches Are Back song, like when they first appeared, I'm like, this seems a little over 310 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,680 the top. 311 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,120 I mean, and I get like sisters. 312 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,120 No, I agree. 313 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:31,240 Because like, yeah, like the one of the girls, because oh my God, I'm sorry, they're just 314 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,240 so forgettable. 315 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,360 I forgot the one girl's name, the one that wears the glasses. 316 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:38,680 She's she's literally says to her friend, like, who are they even singing to? 317 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,480 And then Mary, like Mary's like right next to her and she's like, you. 318 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Yeah, that it wasn't the best written anything, but I was like, OK, I guess. 319 00:20:54,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Like and OK, I feel that I should bring this up with story because me and Caleb were talking 320 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,200 about this tour like before we recorded. 321 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:10,080 And I I still don't know how to feel that because I remember after this movie ended, 322 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,800 I was pissed at this because it just felt so out of place. 323 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:21,640 But like more thinking about it, I get that they were trying for like sentimental, but 324 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,680 in some ways it works, in some ways it doesn't. 325 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:31,160 But like what we like what I read that when like they do the spell at the end, Mary and 326 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,760 Sarah disappear and Winifred is in distress. 327 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:43,240 She misses her sisters and so they do the spell that it makes her be free to be with 328 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,680 her sisters again. 329 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,560 And when I was watching this, I'm like, from remembering how she is in the first one, that 330 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,240 just feels so out of left character for her. 331 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,280 I get it. 332 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,280 They're her sisters. 333 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:00,600 But just for the first one, it seemed like she kind of freaking was not hated them, but 334 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,080 like she was kind of a bitch to them. 335 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Yeah. 336 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Oh, well, you got to think sibling rivalry is a is a real thing. 337 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:19,960 So for me, it made sense that she would like do that, like go that route and want to be 338 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,640 with her sisters. 339 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:29,760 It did feel too out of character for me because it's like in the first one, her sisters were 340 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,440 kind of like her ride or ride or die. 341 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Like they were ready to freaking like die together. 342 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,840 They did everything together. 343 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:45,440 And then I think just at the beginning, just the just tying it in like, oh, this is your 344 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,840 coven and which is nothing without her coven. 345 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:56,640 Like that whole thing, that just kind of solidified the relationship a little bit more. 346 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,600 So it didn't feel too out of character. 347 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,440 So I don't know. 348 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:09,000 And then also, it's like she didn't read the warning and like our Winifred didn't read 349 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 the warning. 350 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,080 So it's like she didn't know that's what she had to give up for the power or whatever. 351 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:21,280 So it's I am I'm very hit and miss with the ending. 352 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,280 You know what? 353 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,720 I think you just brought me to your side. 354 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Yeah. 355 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600 I mean, that being said, was it good? 356 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,600 No. 357 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Yeah. 358 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:37,360 But if it's a whole movie, dude, like the issues that I had with the first one was that 359 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,960 the the story, like it had too much fluff. 360 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,320 It needed to be like shaved down into something a little bit better paced. 361 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:56,880 This movie, it had the perfect pacing, but it was the content that just was not great. 362 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Yeah. 363 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,800 It sucks because I had. 364 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,160 I mean, I feel like I had reasonable expectations of this movie, but. 365 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,200 I just knew like going into this. 366 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Yeah. 367 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,200 I mean, I knew going into this, I'm like, I'm going to walk away with this knowing one 368 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:20,000 thing that will happen is that I will just love seeing these three together again. 369 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,520 And I feel that the chemistry is just going to be the exact same for the first movie. 370 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,600 It's just going to be so great. 371 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,360 And that's exactly what I got. 372 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:31,240 You can definitely tell these still these three still have the magic between the between 373 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,240 them. 374 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,000 And I had such a joy watching them again. 375 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000 Yeah. 376 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,360 But that's really I got. 377 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:39,360 Yep. 378 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,360 Yeah. 379 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,760 All the other characters are so forgettable. 380 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,960 If you thought any of the characters in the first one were forgettable. 381 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. 382 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Just wait till you watch this one. 383 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Yeah. 384 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,880 No fricking joke there. 385 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,880 The only character that I actually like gave a shit about was Billy Butcherson. 386 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Like when he came back, I was like, oh, this is OK. 387 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,780 Like here's a little nostalgia cake for me. 388 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:10,480 And then again, that just kind of led somewhere that let me down. 389 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Yeah. 390 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,600 I mean, I guess I cared a little bit about Gilbert, but I think the only reason I cared 391 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,360 about him was because he literally tricked the two girls into lighting a black flame 392 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,240 candle to bring the Sanderson sisters back. 393 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,040 OK, that's interesting. 394 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,040 Yeah. 395 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:32,560 But like when you read your reading of the synopsis was way more interesting than the 396 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,280 film was. 397 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Yes. 398 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Like the synopsis does not do it justice. 399 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Like the synopsis made it sound like it was like interesting. 400 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,040 And it wasn't. 401 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,440 It wasn't because I feel I feel one character that they just needed to establish so much 402 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,520 better was Gilbert. 403 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,840 And I know it should have been the two two girls. 404 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,920 But the fact that like, you know, since they first appeared in 93, he saw them disappear. 405 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:05,400 And he's like, literally, he picked up book, just dedicated his whole life just trying 406 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,520 to recreate the black flame candle and bring them back. 407 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,800 And you know, he's able to do it. 408 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,800 I don't know. 409 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840 I just wanted a little more backstory with that. 410 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:20,680 Like, OK, but we're not really showcased why you are so into the Sanderson sisters, like 411 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,560 why you're like I know, like they explain like a strange obsession, especially for someone 412 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,120 who's sharing stories of them wanting to eat children, dude, straight up. 413 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,240 Like what did you what was plan a? 414 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,400 Yeah. 415 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Like you thought also it seems like a resurrect. 416 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,120 You thought you were going to resurrect the Sanderson's and they suddenly were going 417 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,200 to be like, oh, we don't need to eat babies anymore. 418 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Yeah, right. 419 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,440 Or not babies, kids, kids. 420 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Like you know, but it seems like like he's like the only one and, you know, like the 421 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,560 two girls and all of Salem that like talk about the Sanderson sisters now, they've 422 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,760 kind of been kind of just forgotten. 423 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,280 They're not really a. 424 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,680 They're not even like a scary story that they tell at Halloween, it seemed. 425 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,000 Not really. 426 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,440 It's like hell, even frickin frickin 40 years later in the Halloween franchise, they still 427 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,680 tell stories about Michael Myers. 428 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,120 You know, he's the Boogeyman. 429 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,120 He's the myth. 430 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:32,760 Everyone knows the myth, but not everyone knew that he was actually a thing where like in 431 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:38,760 this one, it's been like like a little over 20 years since the events of the first one. 432 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,400 And yeah, people just forgot about what happened in 93. 433 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,480 Well you got to think it's like not everyone interacted with the Sanderson's. 434 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,480 That's true. 435 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240 So it would have become like a myth. 436 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,720 Like you would have had the small group of parents that had to dance in the gym for like 437 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,980 hours on end because the Sanderson sisters came and put a spell on them and then left. 438 00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:11,280 So they probably just came out of that and were like, OK, that was weird. 439 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,280 But not really. 440 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,280 OK, talking about it. 441 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,760 And then it just kind of became like a town myth. 442 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,680 Yeah, like, oh yeah, we put all our kids to bed and then for some weird reason they all 443 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800 started like leaving the house. 444 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,520 And so they woke up out in the middle of the street and so that was weird. 445 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,400 But again, nothing would have come from that. 446 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Yeah, OK, you got a point there. 447 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Yeah, that's my whole justification for it. 448 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,760 But this whole. 449 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,560 I don't know what this was lacking. 450 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:50,760 It's like on paper, it seems like it should have been really good. 451 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,000 Like, honestly, I think it was just execution. 452 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,520 Yeah, I would agree. 453 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,320 And that's like really unfortunate because I think this movie had the potential to be 454 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040 really frickin good. 455 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Oh, yeah, it's freaking Hocus Pocus 2. 456 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,640 This should have been a great sequel. 457 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Yeah, this should have been an easy frickin payday, Disney. 458 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,560 I mean, it was. 459 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,740 I know, but it's like you still you screwed it up. 460 00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:24,360 Like you're only going to get maybe. 461 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:31,840 I'll say two, maybe three years worth of viewings from this movie. 462 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,840 Unlike the first one where they're going to get way more than their money's worth. 463 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:42,440 I mean, I mean, you heard, though, like the record that Hocus Pocus 2 set, right? 464 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Are you shitting me? 465 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,440 It's not a record. 466 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,440 What record? 467 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,440 Oh, yeah. 468 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:52,640 So as far as like Disney plus original movies, it is the most watched. 469 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200 Are you actually shitting me? 470 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200 I'm dead serious. 471 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,200 That's bullshit, dude. 472 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,480 It is the most watched Disney plus original movie. 473 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,400 OK, maybe we're the minority here. 474 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Yeah, apparently. 475 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,400 And I know like people will say like, oh, you know, just accept it for what it is. 476 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880 You know, like they they did their best. 477 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,520 They could have done a lot better. 478 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Like, come on. 479 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:30,760 No, having seen the original as as recently as we have. 480 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,360 And come into this, this was not even close to their best. 481 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,880 No, I walked away disappointed and I didn't want I didn't expect to feel that way after 482 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Hocus Pocus 2. 483 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,880 Yeah. 484 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,480 I mean, I was there, at least not as disappointed as I was. 485 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,480 Yeah. 486 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,760 And that's really unfortunate. 487 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,660 The story, though, isn't. 488 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:58,240 The worst thing in the world, though, it's like I know we're just like, it seems like 489 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,480 we're ripping at a new one, but it wasn't like the worst thing. 490 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Like, honestly, I think I still might be in like the 70s, but I'm in like the low 70s. 491 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,920 Yeah, same here. 492 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520 And yeah, I don't think I can go in the 60s. 493 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,080 And like, honestly, I feel it's just because seeing those three together again, that's 494 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,840 what pushes it barely into the 70s. 495 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Yeah, like they were good. 496 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 I think I wish the movie would have just focused on them. 497 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,800 Like I wish that I found a way for them to like be brought back. 498 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,720 But not have the focus on these new witches. 499 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720 Yeah. 500 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,960 So I. 501 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:50,880 But the sisters were definitely enough to keep this in the very, very average range. 502 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,720 Yeah. 503 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,720 So I think I'm just going to sit at like a solid 70 with this. 504 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Yeah, you know, I'm going to agree with you. 505 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Not it. 506 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Almost give it to you. 507 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,000 All right, next up, we got writing. 508 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Man, this is one of those things, the writing for the sisters was really good. 509 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,200 The writing for everyone else, not so good. 510 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,800 Yeah. 511 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,080 Just the writing for the two. 512 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,880 OK, I got to get their names because I feel bad that I just keep calling them the lead 513 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,880 girls. 514 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,880 Yeah. 515 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,840 So we got Becca, who is the like the witch, Izzy, who is the friend, and then Cassie, 516 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,280 who is the estranged friend. 517 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,040 OK, so. 518 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,960 The writing for Becca and Izzy is it's all right. 519 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,720 I feel the writing for Becca is better. 520 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,960 Agreed. 521 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,400 But maybe that's because I liked the and I mean, we'll get to this with acting. 522 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,760 I thought Becca's actress was better than Izzy's, but that's just my opinion. 523 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,760 But the. 524 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Oh, my God. 525 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400 What was their friend's name again? 526 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,400 Cassie. 527 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Cassie. 528 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240 Oh, my God, I hated her writing. 529 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,080 She was so fricking generic, dude. 530 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:22,540 Dude, straight up, like even their like whole their them being like friends years ago. 531 00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:26,040 But then when she became popular, they they separated. 532 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,440 That just felt like such a generic classic high school plot. 533 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,440 Like oh, yeah. 534 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Or junior high plot. 535 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,440 I don't know how old they are. 536 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Well, no, they would be in high school, right? 537 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,520 They're 16. 538 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,520 16. 539 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960 So they would be in like. 540 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Sophomores. 541 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,960 Sophomores. 542 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,960 Yeah. 543 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,480 But yeah, I've seen that a million times. 544 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,800 Like yeah, like, you know, you grow up in in elementary, but, you know, once you get 545 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,000 to junior high or high school, you you know, you everyone finds their different cliques 546 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,040 and you guys go their separate ways. 547 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,360 And then, of course, you know, they have to touch upon that and see if they come back 548 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,360 together and just I hate it. 549 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Boring. 550 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:13,200 Dude, I thought the route that they were going to take with that because it's like the. 551 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:21,000 It felt so unjustified with Cassie hanging out with her boyfriend, Mike, the route that 552 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,540 I thought they were going to take. 553 00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:27,360 And I thought it would have been way more interesting is if Cassie was dating Mike, 554 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:35,480 who Becca had a crush on or had dated like maybe like Becca's ex or something. 555 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,320 Yeah, that would have. 556 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,440 Dude, you could have even written a better plot for this. 557 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,840 Yeah, that's not a super high bar or one that's one that's more cohesive. 558 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,840 Fair enough. 559 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520 Yeah, it's just it would have made more sense. 560 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:54,520 It would have added a little like, oh, like a little like a little teen drama, but it 561 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,080 still would have added a little bit like spice to it. 562 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,080 Like, oh, shit. 563 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480 Like, how are they going to come back from this? 564 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,760 Like one of those things like it. 565 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,760 I don't know. 566 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,680 It would have worked a little bit better for me. 567 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,920 And then it's still like. 568 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,200 Cassie still like distancing herself because. 569 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,000 She's I don't know, whatever, like whatever you want, go there. 570 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Like, but it. 571 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,080 They missed the mark. 572 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,080 Just the whole. 573 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,440 Oh, now I'm popular. 574 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,000 Now we're not friends anymore, frickin who cares? 575 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,880 Yeah. 576 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,240 I will say this, though. 577 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:44,320 Mike was decently written. 578 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Like, I love that he wasn't like the typical like bullying asshole. 579 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,160 He was just. 580 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,560 An idiot, but still like. 581 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,560 Funny. 582 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,360 Yeah, because I fully made the freak out that he has in a. 583 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,200 The class when she when she does like the whole spell thing. 584 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,160 Yeah, that that maybe chuckle a little bit. 585 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,160 Yeah. 586 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,720 And then when he realized that he was like bullying. 587 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:19,120 Like he's like, oh, my gosh, I have so many people to apologize to. 588 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,720 Yeah, see, I love that kind of stuff. 589 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:23,720 That's actually awesome. 590 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,360 Getting someone to admit to it. 591 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120 Yeah, I freaking I love that. 592 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,120 Like. 593 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,160 And I think like. 594 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:38,200 Mike could have been a really interesting character for them to explore more of. 595 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,840 Well, absolutely. 596 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,840 But. 597 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,680 We just didn't get it. 598 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,880 Like it's they didn't set up why we should care. 599 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,240 Yeah, exactly. 600 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,840 Like I feel like. 601 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,960 Becca just kind of being into witchcraft and then suddenly, oh, she has powers. 602 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,760 Well, come on. 603 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,000 Like it. 604 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000 It's it's weird. 605 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,360 I think that. 606 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,120 Instead of it being like. 607 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,120 I don't know. 608 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,680 I don't know how the hell to make Becca more interesting. 609 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,700 Dude, you and me both like. 610 00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:29,840 Instead of it being like something that she like the witchcraft stuff, instead of being 611 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,160 something that she just kind of has an interest in. 612 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:41,240 Like show us from the get go that she has some like magic about her. 613 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:42,720 And maybe. 614 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:50,040 And maybe like not even go as far as being like, oh, Gilbert set this up so she summons 615 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080 the Sanderson sisters and throw that whole plot in. 616 00:37:53,080 --> 00:38:00,280 Maybe set it so she accidentally turns a candle into a black flame candle. 617 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,280 See yeah, that would have been cool. 618 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,400 Yeah, like with her innate magical abilities, she accidentally turns a normal candle that 619 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,980 she's using for this birthday ritual that she does every year. 620 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:16,400 She accidentally turns it into a black flame candle, resurrecting the Sanderson sisters 621 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040 for a small period of time. 622 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,200 And then they want to do this like ultimate magic spell to make them more powerful. 623 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,160 Like that would have been. 624 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,040 So much more interesting for me. 625 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120 Absolutely agree, absolutely agree. 626 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,720 Like get rid of freaking Gilbert altogether. 627 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,720 And then maybe. 628 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:43,040 Trying to think. 629 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,380 Oh, you know how the freaking like the mother or the witch mother? 630 00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:55,360 She's like, oh, like the like here's your spell book, like magical items or. 631 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,080 Yeah, magical things always have a way of like. 632 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,760 Showing up to each other like that whole shtick. 633 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,480 Yes, yeah. 634 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:14,780 Like how cool would it have been if Becca was having like dreams of the book? 635 00:39:14,780 --> 00:39:19,160 And then she like comes across the book. 636 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,520 Or like comes across a real book at that at the shop, like if you really wanted to throw 637 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000 in the magic shop. 638 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,640 See, yeah, that would have been cool. 639 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:37,440 Yeah, it's just gosh, there's so many like little minor things that you could have shifted. 640 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,840 Just just a hair. 641 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,080 So it just it felt really sloppily put together. 642 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,600 But I mean, the dialogue wasn't the worst thing in the world. 643 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000 No, it's I've seen a lot worse. 644 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,440 Yeah, I mean, and the sisters were still funny. 645 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,640 Like how they're supposed to be. 646 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,880 I think. 647 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,920 And I feel like I've noticed this with other movies when you have more than one or two 648 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,960 writers, the the story just gets real sloppy. 649 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Yeah, I've noticed that too. 650 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,440 And this movie has. 651 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,440 Three writers. 652 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,440 Holy shit. 653 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:32,360 Yeah, so it's two two people are the characters are based on characters created by their three 654 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,800 story by characters and then there's one screenplay by. 655 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,120 So in my mind, that's four writers. 656 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,480 Yeah. 657 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,920 Wow. 658 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,120 And it feels like it. 659 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,720 It feels very like. 660 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,680 It's too busy. 661 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,000 Agreed. 662 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,520 Absolutely agreed. 663 00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:01,800 So on story, I think our writing. 664 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:08,360 Just because I feel like the dialogue was somewhat decent, but with all of the frickin 665 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:16,280 issues that I had with the just the general story itself and how everything was written 666 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:23,820 out and, like I said, became way too frickin busy. 667 00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:27,920 I might be at a 70 with this one as well. 668 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,120 I think I'm just going to go slightly about 71 just really just because of the writing 669 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,120 for the sisters. 670 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:40,000 And it felt like for the most part, it felt like the first one with their writing, which 671 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,120 I appreciated. 672 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,320 That's fair. 673 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,080 So moving on over to acting, we have. 674 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,080 Winifred Sanderson, who is played by Bette Midler. 675 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,940 We have Sarah Sanderson, who is played by Sarah Jessica Parker. 676 00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:02,840 We have Mary Sanderson, who was played by Kathy Najimy. 677 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,280 Becca, who is played by Whitney Peak. 678 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,800 Izzy, who is played by Belisa Escobedo. 679 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,520 Cassie, who is played by Lillia Buckingham. 680 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:22,000 Gilbert, who was played by Sam Richardson. 681 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,440 Billy Butcherson, who is played by Doug Jones. 682 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:35,440 And then finally, we have the mayor slash Reverend Trask, who is played by Tony Hale. 683 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,760 So I'm assuming with your top three, we're going we're talking sisters, right? 684 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,260 Oh, absolutely. 685 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:46,200 So other than the sisters. 686 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:51,520 Like has your OK, so I forget what my ranking was. 687 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,200 Oh, so I remember mine. 688 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,420 Mine was like on the first Hocus Pocus. 689 00:42:56,420 --> 00:43:03,440 Mine was Winifred, Sarah and then Mary. 690 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,720 Like respectively in that order. 691 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:09,600 Wasn't yours Winifred, Mary, Sarah? 692 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,520 No, mine was Mary Winifred, Sarah. 693 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,760 OK. 694 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,520 Do you stand by that ranking? 695 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,240 Yes, does not change at all. 696 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,480 OK, same with me. 697 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,960 OK, so other than those three. 698 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,960 Wait, sorry, sorry. 699 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,880 OK, wait, you had Mary last, right? 700 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Oh, that's right. 701 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,680 Never mind. 702 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,680 Never mind. 703 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,680 Scratch that. 704 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,680 Pump the brakes. 705 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:37,680 I mean, that's fine. 706 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:44,760 I'm just so yeah, I was Winifred, Sarah, Mary for the first. 707 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680 This one I'm going Winifred, Mary, Sarah. 708 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,680 OK. 709 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,680 Yeah, sorry. 710 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,680 I had to make that correction. 711 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,680 No, you're good. 712 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,680 No, you're good. 713 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,160 No, I just wanted to make sure. 714 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,520 And I'm not trying to sound like a dick calling you out, but I just want to make sure that 715 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,160 like, oh, you know, like I just want to see if like you thought like Mary's performance 716 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,000 was just a little better than Sarah's in this one just because kind of how we talked about 717 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,680 like because of the writing, it just feels like it's it's not Sarah that much in this 718 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,680 movie. 719 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 720 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:26,840 OK, so yeah, with that, like so since we have that established and it's basically for the 721 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,360 exact same reasons as the first movie. 722 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,960 Yeah. 723 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,720 What are your top three that are not the sisters? 724 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,640 Number one, I would absolutely give to Gilbert. 725 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,520 I actually had a really for the most part, I actually liked his character, even though 726 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,640 like there are some things that need to be needed to be filled in with his backstory 727 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:59,040 and, you know, his attraction towards the Sanders, not attraction, his what's the word? 728 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,200 Obsession, obsession. 729 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,200 Thank you. 730 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,240 His obsession with the Sanders sisters. 731 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:09,040 But I really enjoyed his performance. 732 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:21,200 Number two, I would probably give to probably Becca. 733 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,880 Fair. 734 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,520 OK, is Becca the main one or is that it? 735 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,520 Yes. 736 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,520 OK, yeah, sorry. 737 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,520 I keep. 738 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,760 Becca is the Becca is like the new Winifred. 739 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,000 OK. 740 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,680 And then Izzy's the one with glasses and then Cassie's the estranged friend. 741 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,680 OK. 742 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:51,120 So yeah, so number two, I would give to Becca and because I feel that the young actress 743 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,840 is honestly giving her best. 744 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:59,360 It's just the acting, the writing is just not great for her. 745 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,000 But the young. 746 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,160 Or which actress? 747 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,160 For Becca's actress. 748 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:12,520 Yeah, I feel she's trying her best with what she's given. 749 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,440 So I give her number two and then number three. 750 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:26,080 I'll give to the I forget his name that plays Billy Butcherson just because I think it's 751 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:33,360 actually really cool that the guy that played him in the first one comes back to play him. 752 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,480 I mean, it was really it was really cool seeing him back, but I feel he had more to do in 753 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,480 the first one. 754 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,960 I get that, you know, like he goes off with Gilbert, you know, and acquires all of this 755 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,960 stuff. 756 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,560 But I don't know, I had more of an enjoyable time watching him in the first one than I 757 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,080 did in this one. 758 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,080 That's fair. 759 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,080 I'm glad we got to hear him talk a little bit in this one. 760 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,400 Yeah, same here. 761 00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,520 How would you agree with that? 762 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:09,720 So I would actually go Billy Butcherson would be my number one because I enjoyed seeing 763 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:12,120 him on screen again. 764 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:18,280 And he he fit back into the role so frickin well, the way that he was just mouthing off 765 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,680 to everyone. 766 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,060 And I loved it. 767 00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:28,760 So I'm giving him Doug Jones, my number one. 768 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,960 Number two, funny enough, I would actually give to the mayor played by Tony Hale. 769 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,920 Okay, that's fair. 770 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,800 I thought he was hilarious. 771 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:50,840 And like, I felt bad for him, too, because it's like, dude just wanted like a decent 772 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480 caramel apple. 773 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:58,920 And he had to end up going to Walgreens for one and those ones frickin suck ass. 774 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:05,600 And I don't know, I that whole thing was super funny to me. 775 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:11,240 And like his his reaction to everything going on around him, like when the mob came and 776 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:15,640 was like surrounding him, he's like, oh my gosh, and then they like someone stole his 777 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,640 apple. 778 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,080 I don't know, there was just something about the way that he pulled that off that really 779 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,600 like stuck with me. 780 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,040 I get you. 781 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,080 My number three. 782 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:38,560 Shit, I actually might have to give it to the actress who played young Winifred. 783 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:44,960 Oh, dude, I forgot about yes, she was incredible. 784 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,080 She did so good, dude. 785 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,700 Oh my gosh. 786 00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,480 She frickin killed it. 787 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,520 Yeah, she does. 788 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160 Like she frickin Oh my gosh. 789 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:07,920 And I love the like the behind the scenes stuff that I was I've been reading on this movie. 790 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:14,160 Because Doug Jones was talking about when he came on set, dressed up as Billy Butcherson. 791 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,040 He's like, it felt like Elvis had just walked into the building the way everyone was just 792 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,840 like freaking out. 793 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,200 Oh, dude, that's awesome. 794 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,200 Yeah. 795 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,800 And I'm like, dude, granted, like, I get it. 796 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,880 Totally get it. 797 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,120 And then 798 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,540 Bette Midler has been talking about like her interactions with the actress who her name's 799 00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:43,720 Taylor Henderson by the by the way, but like young Winifred and their interaction and like 800 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:46,840 getting the 801 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:54,000 the body language and posture down and like working with the teeth and everything like 802 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,440 so frickin funny. 803 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,760 Like I when I first saw her, I was like, I don't know how much I'm going to like this. 804 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:11,000 And then like the second she's on screen and pushing away everyone away and all that crazy 805 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:18,520 shit like I was like sold, absolutely sold on this little girl playing. 806 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,520 Winifred 807 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,320 Yeah, she was fantastic. 808 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,080 Yeah. 809 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,320 So that yeah, that's that's my ranking. 810 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,520 So yeah, Billy Mayer and then young Winifred. 811 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,240 I like it. 812 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:48,320 Alright, with that, what would you give their their acting? 813 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:54,320 Just because I loved seeing these three back in these roles, and I feel that they did a 814 00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:00,880 really good job, even though some of the writing wasn't great for the three of them. 815 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,000 So you know, I'm 816 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,340 although some of the supporting cast does bring them down. 817 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:13,240 So I'm going to go a 78. 818 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,240 That's actually really fair. 819 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:18,960 And dude, I had high hopes like they started off strong. 820 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:26,560 Yeah, like when they brought in the the witch mother and everything like, it kind of was 821 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,360 a little like about it. 822 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:35,120 But after like, they started talking a little bit more and really getting into that discussion, 823 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,480 I was sold like I was absolutely sold. 824 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,760 I'm like, this movie is going to be really like, I thought it was going to be really 825 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,920 good because I'm like, the young actresses are killing it. 826 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,920 The frickin witch mother who's a new character is killing it. 827 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:53,280 Like, we're going to have the Sanderson sisters back and we know they're going to frickin 828 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,160 kill it. 829 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:02,200 And honestly, I feel like maybe they were the ones that underperformed, but it had such 830 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,600 a strong start. 831 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:11,560 And so as it went on and just like slowly started going down and down and down, it was 832 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,560 it was a little disappointing. 833 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,920 Yeah, I would agree. 834 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:26,720 I am I'm actually probably a little bit below you that the extras are the ones that killed 835 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:29,160 it for me. 836 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:37,120 Like wasn't the and the main girls like frickin Becca, Izzy and Cassie did not care for them. 837 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,560 Yeah. 838 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,600 And I mean, their performances were watchable. 839 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,240 No real complaints there. 840 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:53,000 It's just I don't know if there was some inconsistencies that I didn't care for. 841 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,880 No, that's absolutely fair. 842 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,600 So I think I'm going to be at like a seventy six. 843 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,640 All right. 844 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,280 All right. 845 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:11,880 Moving on over to character development, which this one's kind of tough to do. 846 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:22,240 Yeah, I mean, the only one that I feel like actually had a decent character growth, just 847 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:30,000 like seeing a lot more of like how she felt with her relationship with her sisters. 848 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:36,800 I guess you could say Winifred, but I don't really even know. 849 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,800 I don't know. 850 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,440 I don't really even know how you how I could do the character development for either of 851 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:47,640 like the main girls just because they really didn't get that much. 852 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,040 They really didn't. 853 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:56,560 So I might agree with you that since she was the only one that seemed to have any doing 854 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,040 it on Winifred. 855 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,040 OK. 856 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,160 Let's do it on Winifred Sanderson. 857 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,160 Yeah. 858 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:19,240 So they focus on Winifred as a young girl, 16, coming into her powers, having recently 859 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:29,920 been banished from her town in Salem and traveling into the Forbidden Woods and obtaining her 860 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,820 spell book from the witch mother. 861 00:54:33,820 --> 00:54:38,360 And she's taught this lesson that a witch is nothing without her coven and to never 862 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:46,920 perform this like ultimate power spell. 863 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,920 The movie goes on. 864 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,920 Nothing too special. 865 00:54:50,920 --> 00:55:02,200 The sisters appear and slowly work their way into their getting into the plan of becoming 866 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:07,640 or doing the power spell. 867 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:15,500 So once they once they perform that and this her sisters disappear, Winifred has a major 868 00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:20,920 change of heart that seemingly comes out of nowhere. 869 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,620 And it's like her whole tone shifted. 870 00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:30,400 It wasn't just like seriously though she was like she was getting ready to freaking like 871 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:39,640 bushwhack all of Salem and then realizes her sisters are gone and then like is almost like 872 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:45,680 pleading for something to be done. 873 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,080 Yeah. 874 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:53,640 And it's like I said, it's I don't feel it's out of character, but it definitely just kind 875 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,960 of came out of nowhere. 876 00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,360 Yeah, I feel that's the best way to to to say it because honestly talking about it more. 877 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,400 Yeah, it doesn't necessarily feel out of character. 878 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,760 But yeah, like you said, it just comes out of nowhere and hits you in the face. 879 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:08,760 Yeah. 880 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:21,280 And so she gives up her ultimate power to be reunited with her sisters. 881 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:28,640 And I mean, I guess it's good ish. 882 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,880 This is one of those other ones. 883 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,960 It's so hard to to score the. 884 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:40,080 The development on this, it's like because we didn't we there was no growth for anyone 885 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,640 in this movie. 886 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,800 Yeah. 887 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,400 And unfortunately, it's I wouldn't consider this a horror movie. 888 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,120 Other like we could do like the logic, I guess. 889 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,960 But I don't even know how to do that for this one. 890 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,700 I wouldn't either. 891 00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:02,960 So it's this is a tough one. 892 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:11,760 And here, I actually might be the same as my acting score, like seventy six, because 893 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,320 it was like. 894 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,320 OK. 895 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:23,200 Yeah, I think maybe just because for my initial reaction of how I felt like it was just completely 896 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,880 out of character, but like how we were, you know, like you, you know, I feel that you 897 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,920 helped me persuade just a little bit the other way. 898 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,840 So I think I'm just going to be one notch lower at a seventy five. 899 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:36,840 Completely fair. 900 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:37,840 All right. 901 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,600 Next up, we got effects. 902 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,960 And I don't know how to feel about this one. 903 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,440 It is very clear, or at least I feel a lot of people have said that this definitely feels 904 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,720 like a Disney Channel movie, and it definitely does. 905 00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,600 Definitely in the effects wise, because there is a lot of the flying scenes that I'm just 906 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,560 like, yeah, I can totally tell that that's green screen. 907 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,000 You're not you're not even trying here. 908 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:14,000 That one I was a little tough on, like it because it's like it matched pretty closely 909 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,880 to the original. 910 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,880 I kind of had that same tone, like, but at least with the original, though, a lot of 911 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,480 that was wire work. 912 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,480 Yeah. 913 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,960 So I don't know if like if they even had any wire work in this movie. 914 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,800 They actually had a decent amount like they did. 915 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,800 Yeah. 916 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,160 Their takeoffs were all wire work. 917 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,520 OK, I can appreciate that. 918 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,520 Yeah. 919 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:48,480 It was the issues that I had were when they were flying above the town. 920 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,240 Yeah, that looked not good. 921 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,880 Yeah, it did not. 922 00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:02,240 And I'd be interested to learn more, too, like when they were having the mob try and 923 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:11,520 find the mayor, whether or not that was a green screen or wire work, because that looked 924 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,520 really good. 925 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,400 Yeah, I would agree with that. 926 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,320 And it's like it was very inconsistent. 927 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,720 Like that's what sucks. 928 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,460 It's like it was in it was inconsistency. 929 00:59:25,460 --> 00:59:31,420 Like sometimes they'd fly and you'd be like, oh, yeah, that is horrendous green screen. 930 00:59:31,420 --> 00:59:35,460 Other times it's wire work and it looks OK for wire work. 931 00:59:35,460 --> 00:59:40,640 It's not like, yeah, the best thing in the world, but it's decent wire work. 932 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:46,040 And then their magics. 933 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,840 Their magics look pretty decent. 934 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,120 Yeah, I'd agree with that. 935 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:59,000 I'm trying to think, like, can you recall any like magic that didn't look good? 936 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,800 Not off the top of my head. 937 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,640 Yeah, all the all the. 938 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,480 Abilities that everyone used again, it was used sparingly. 939 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,840 I think they used it a little bit more than they did in the original, which makes sense. 940 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,360 It was a little bit more expensive to do back then. 941 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:25,080 But I think they did like a similar enough job to. 942 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:31,120 I think they matched the effects pretty frickin well. 943 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,600 Like in comparison to the original. 944 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,600 Yeah, you know what? 945 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,600 I think I can agree. 946 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,600 Yeah, I mean, other than the shoddy green screen. 947 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,680 It wasn't wasn't bad. 948 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,200 Yeah, I might go. 949 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,400 Let's see. 950 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,200 I forget what. 951 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,400 I think we gave it an eighty nine like the original in eighty nine. 952 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,480 Just because I don't feel like these ones are going to hold up as well. 953 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:08,040 I think I'm going to be like an eighty seven. 954 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,040 Not on matchup. 955 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,680 All right. 956 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,000 Next up, we got music. 957 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,720 So what would you think of them? 958 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:17,720 Music. 959 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:24,880 Well, OK, so the two ones that the biggest songs that they sang in this were The Witches 960 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,000 Are Back, right? 961 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,320 Yes. 962 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,360 And what was it? 963 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,360 The pink. 964 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,520 I forget who sings it. 965 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,520 The one way or another. 966 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:44,520 I'm going to find you. 967 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,320 I don't know what it was like in the first one. 968 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,000 It made sense why they're doing that. 969 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,080 Like I put a spell on you like that just made sense. 970 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,080 But I don't know. 971 01:01:53,080 --> 01:02:00,160 Like some some of the instances them using the The Witches Are Back or the I'm mostly 972 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,480 the The Witches Are Back just because that one just feels so out of just like right as 973 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,280 they come back from you know, from hell. 974 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,720 That's what they start breaking. 975 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:10,720 That's what they break into. 976 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,720 Right. 977 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:12,720 It's. 978 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,720 Yeah. 979 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,040 And I get it like, you know, after the the number ends or when it's about to end, the 980 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,800 Izzy is just like, who are they even performing to? 981 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,800 And Mary just like pops right next to her and she's like, we're singing for you. 982 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,000 So I'm like, OK, you know, I get it. 983 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,480 But I don't know. 984 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:38,600 I don't remember the sisters like being so like I mean, when they appeared in 93, they 985 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,720 never busted out into a song. 986 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,520 So why in 2022 they do? 987 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,400 Yeah. 988 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:57,480 And it's tough because they don't seem super performative in the original. 989 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:04,000 They know they do to enchant the adults. 990 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,780 Like you said, makes sense. 991 01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:14,000 And I guess Sarah kind of has her own little performance to lure children. 992 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,440 That's dude, that I don't know if we touched upon that scene at all when we reviewed Hocus 993 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:24,600 Pocus, but like that Sarah Jessica Parker like deserves a frickin like round of applause 994 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,240 for like how creepy she made that that song. 995 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,840 She did such a real job. 996 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:42,360 So gosh, this one's tough because when they are sung, they they're decent, they're good. 997 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,880 Like I enjoy the performances. 998 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:49,920 It's just especially the witches are back just felt so out of place. 999 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,000 Yeah. 1000 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,300 This is one that I think I might. 1001 01:03:55,300 --> 01:04:04,400 My personal idea of where I think the music would be is maybe like a seven. 1002 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:11,200 But I think the performances were good enough to warrant an eight. 1003 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,720 Like I know that seems like a small difference to everyone, but still. 1004 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,040 No, honestly, I think I can agree with you. 1005 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,720 I really do. 1006 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:20,800 Yeah. 1007 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,480 The rest of the scores were amazing. 1008 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,800 Like everything fit. 1009 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,160 It's just those two performances, but the performances were good. 1010 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,160 Yeah. 1011 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,160 Oh, yeah. 1012 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,160 Absolutely. 1013 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:37,920 In the way of like the story and everything, that's where it kind of gets a little loosey 1014 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,560 goosey like, oh, should that music have been there? 1015 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,760 But the music itself was good. 1016 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,560 Yeah, so absolutely agree. 1017 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,400 I think that's kind of how I'm I'm scoring it. 1018 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,400 This this go round. 1019 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:56,080 Like if if I'm thinking like how it worked within the movie, I might actually be down 1020 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,880 as far as a six. 1021 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:00,880 That's fair. 1022 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:09,560 But yeah, I think I'm at an eight just because of how well or how good the songs were by 1023 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:10,560 themselves. 1024 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,560 Yeah. 1025 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:12,960 And then everything else seemed to work. 1026 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:18,120 It just I think I think that's the perfect spot because it's like it. 1027 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,320 I absolutely agree. 1028 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,000 The songs were good. 1029 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:27,680 Like if they would have fit better into where they were supposed to go, I think I might 1030 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,160 have even been up to a nine. 1031 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,640 But just because of how out of place, but the performances were good. 1032 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,000 Eight is the solid answer. 1033 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,680 Yeah, no, I absolutely agree. 1034 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:42,800 All right. 1035 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,480 Next up, we got costumes. 1036 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,120 And damn it, if these ones aren't frickin amazing again. 1037 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,560 Yeah, just as good as the original. 1038 01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:01,720 Yeah, like I still actually might be at a 10 with these. 1039 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,720 I think they were that good. 1040 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,920 Yeah, you know, I did. 1041 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,880 I think I'm gonna agree. 1042 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,760 Yeah, I mean, we we did that with the first focus. 1043 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,840 We gave those costumes a 10 because of the Sanderson sisters and Billy. 1044 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,000 And again, Sanderson's and Billy looked incredible. 1045 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,800 No one else seemed to have any other costumes. 1046 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,520 Actually, the witch mother, I loved her outfit, dude. 1047 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:30,520 Yeah. 1048 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,480 Oh, she looks so good. 1049 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,560 She looked amazing. 1050 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,320 So yeah, I have no issues giving this a 10. 1051 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,240 I mean, if you got a killer costume, you got to kill her costume. 1052 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,160 Yeah, no, absolutely agree. 1053 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,520 So yeah, I'm at a 10 as well. 1054 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,000 Some reason I was in my own head. 1055 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,680 Yeah, I was just like really getting into. 1056 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,880 All right, man, I was really thinking of those costumes. 1057 01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,880 I'm sorry. 1058 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:04,240 Yeah, I don't know what happened. 1059 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,720 When it's good, it's good. 1060 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:10,000 Yeah, frickin apparently it was that good. 1061 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,760 I don't know what happened. 1062 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,760 I'm so sorry. 1063 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,640 No, you're you're good. 1064 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:22,680 It's this is where I feel our. 1065 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,760 Attempt at being unbiased shows. 1066 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:34,400 Because I mean, we could easily just go through and give these all like average scores. 1067 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:41,760 But this is like one movie where there's one category that will friggin throw something 1068 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:48,840 over the top, where some people don't take into consideration like, oh, it's not a good 1069 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:54,080 like some people I think would be like, hey, this is a really shitty movie, shitty writing, 1070 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,880 blah, blah, blah, like just completely rip it a new one and not really focus on anything 1071 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,840 that was good about it. 1072 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,680 Because there's always something good in a movie. 1073 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,160 Other than maybe like food fight. 1074 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,440 But yeah, we don't talk about that movie. 1075 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:12,440 Yeah. 1076 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,120 So, I mean, there's always something good about every movie. 1077 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:22,480 And with this movie, it was the frickin music and the costumes that just killed it. 1078 01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:25,200 Like the music didn't fit. 1079 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,240 So that's why it didn't score higher. 1080 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:34,240 But yeah, the costumes, anyone making an argument that the costumes deserve less than the 10 1081 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,520 is out of their frickin mind. 1082 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,480 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 1083 01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:40,520 Yeah. 1084 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,040 So costumes getting a 10. 1085 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,260 Last up, we got our own personal score. 1086 01:08:47,260 --> 01:08:50,000 So would you like to take this one first? 1087 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,320 I would love to. 1088 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:58,960 So overall, I did walk away from Hocus Pocus too disappointed. 1089 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,560 Not fully. 1090 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,000 I will admit it was great seeing these three back together again playing the Sanderson 1091 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,640 sisters. 1092 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,400 They honestly didn't miss a beat. 1093 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,780 If I have some problems with them, it's not the actresses fault. 1094 01:09:12,780 --> 01:09:14,840 It's the writing. 1095 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,880 And especially with Sarah's character, that that's really where my problem lies is just 1096 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:19,880 the writing. 1097 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,480 It's a lot better than the first one for her. 1098 01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:27,360 But it's just the supporting characters are very bland. 1099 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,480 The story is not super solid. 1100 01:09:31,480 --> 01:09:35,680 It wasn't a sequel that I was hoping for. 1101 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,360 But at the same time, I always felt that the first one didn't really even need a sequel. 1102 01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,580 They tied it up very well. 1103 01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:51,880 It made sense why the Sanderson sisters wouldn't be able to return again. 1104 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:59,120 It feels like an unnecessary sequel. 1105 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:03,400 I feel they could have done a little better, but in a way, I guess they did the best that 1106 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,360 they could. 1107 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:12,600 The biggest thing that you can take away from this movie, it is so great seeing Bette Midler, 1108 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:17,520 Kathy Najimy, and Sarah Jessica Parker playing these three characters again. 1109 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,000 That's the best part of this movie. 1110 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,920 Honestly, that's what I knew was going to be the best part, and I'm grateful that is 1111 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,640 the best part. 1112 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:36,320 So I'll go with a 71. 1113 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:42,320 I think that's pretty reasonable. 1114 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,000 I had high expectations for this movie. 1115 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:53,120 Thinking, hey, this is a great movie being made in modern times. 1116 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,200 They can cut out the fluff of... 1117 01:10:55,200 --> 01:11:01,320 If they can just capture the magic of the original, that would be perfect. 1118 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,760 I think that's where they fell short. 1119 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,040 They just didn't capture that magic. 1120 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:14,360 The only bit that they were able to capture was the relationship between the Sandersons. 1121 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,160 That was the only thing. 1122 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,760 Then obviously they had Billy, like Butcherson, which was great. 1123 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,640 I'm glad that they made that tie in to the original. 1124 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,280 I would have maybe liked to see a little bit more fan service from maybe bringing in the 1125 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:39,800 actors or maybe not even the actors if those actors were unwilling or not working as actors 1126 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,800 anymore. 1127 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,600 Which kind of sucks because the little girl... 1128 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,040 What was her name? 1129 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,320 Max? 1130 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:48,320 From the original? 1131 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,320 She's still acting. 1132 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,320 Danny. 1133 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,320 Danny, that's right. 1134 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,960 Who's Max? 1135 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:55,960 Max was the brother. 1136 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,960 Yeah, Max was the brother. 1137 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,080 So yeah, Danny. 1138 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,040 Danny still acts. 1139 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:09,600 So it's kind of sad that they didn't bring her in. 1140 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,400 I don't know if they attempted to or whatever, but I think this could have used a little 1141 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,520 more of nostalgia sprinkles. 1142 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:23,800 Yeah, I agree. 1143 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,320 But yeah, honestly, I'll probably go back and watch the original before I come back 1144 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,520 and watch this one. 1145 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,520 Yeah, dude, same. 1146 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,200 Absolutely the same. 1147 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,040 And that sucks. 1148 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:41,760 Like honestly, the only thing I might watch this for is like the opening sequence with 1149 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,800 the young sisters. 1150 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,520 Yeah, because that was great. 1151 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,480 Yeah, that was awesome. 1152 01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:56,040 So yeah, I might be... 1153 01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:02,480 Gosh, I'm actually a little lower than you with my personal score. 1154 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:08,440 I think I'm sitting at like a 68. 1155 01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:09,440 Fair enough, dude. 1156 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,440 Fair enough. 1157 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:11,440 I understand. 1158 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:17,600 Yeah, I didn't have that good of a time watching it. 1159 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:22,800 It was just more me wanting to go back and watch the original. 1160 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:34,480 But yeah, so with that, that concludes this week's breakdown. 1161 01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:43,880 And going through each of the categories real quick, the story starting off pretty in the 1162 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,560 average range, sitting at a 70. 1163 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:53,240 Acting scored half a point higher than that, so it's sitting at a 70.5. 1164 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:58,400 Our acting was a significant improvement, sitting at a 77. 1165 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,960 Character development went down a little bit, sitting at a 75.5. 1166 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:09,680 The effects brought it up quite a bit, sitting at a solid 87. 1167 01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:15,640 The music, like we said, really excellent music, just didn't quite fit well with the 1168 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,720 tone of the movie, so it's sitting at an 8. 1169 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:25,960 And then the costumes, without a doubt, sitting at a solid 10, because who can freaking beat 1170 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,840 the Sanderson sisters? 1171 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:37,940 And then our personal score averaged out to a 69.5, which makes that our lowest category. 1172 01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:47,280 So with that, the final Albrows letter grade for Hocus Pocus 2 has come to a... 1173 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,000 C! 1174 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:56,440 Okay, I can agree with that. 1175 01:14:56,440 --> 01:15:04,160 Yeah, it's a fairly solid C, so our range for C is... 1176 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:09,400 Oh, hold on. 1177 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:16,120 Yeah, our range for C is anywhere between a 76... 1178 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:21,640 Or no, sorry, 73 and 76. 1179 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:28,040 And this movie is sitting at a 74.91%. 1180 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,040 Okay. 1181 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:41,440 Yeah, so it's definitely in the middle there. 1182 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:53,600 So comparing this to other movies of the C score, Hocus Pocus 2 has been put below Surf's 1183 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:59,080 Up, which is sitting at a 74.96. 1184 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,320 You said it's above that? 1185 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,320 Uh, below. 1186 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,120 Oh, below, sorry. 1187 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:08,320 Yeah, it is also below Power Rangers, which is at a 75.18. 1188 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,120 Yeah, I'm okay with that. 1189 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:18,320 It is below Venom, which is at a 75.22. 1190 01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,760 It is below The Rise of Skywalker, which is at a 75.31. 1191 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:32,920 And then finally it is below Ant-Man and the Wasp, which is at a 75.33. 1192 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:40,600 Going the opposite direction, it is above Scoob, which is at a 74.81. 1193 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,400 Yeah. 1194 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:48,560 You know what, honestly, I think I probably did enjoy this more than Scoob. 1195 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,560 Really? 1196 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,680 Yeah, I think I can actually agree with that. 1197 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,560 Alright, let's see. 1198 01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:02,400 It's also above Unfriended, which is at a 74.5. 1199 01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,320 It is above Fantasy Island, which is at a 74.37. 1200 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,360 Yeah, I hated that movie. 1201 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:19,840 It is above Star Wars The Last Jedi, which is at a 74.28. 1202 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:27,520 And then finally it is above The Forever Purge, which is at a 73.31. 1203 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,520 Fair enough. 1204 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:29,520 Yeah. 1205 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,240 I think it has a pretty decent home. 1206 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,600 Yeah, I would absolutely agree. 1207 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,600 So yeah. 1208 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:43,200 Anyway, that concludes this week's breakdown. 1209 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:51,040 If you guys liked this episode, want to hear more of our stuff, be sure to follow and subscribe 1210 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,040 to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 1211 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,120 We are also on all social media platforms. 1212 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:04,080 Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. 1213 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,640 You can find us at the All Bros. 1214 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:14,240 Or you guys can check us out on our website, which is tinyurl.com forward slash the All 1215 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:22,880 Bros, where you can find links to everything that we do. 1216 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:31,480 Next week, you guys can look forward to our breakdown of Halloween ends. 1217 01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:35,360 I know Rose is beyond excited for this movie. 1218 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,080 So excited. 1219 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,080 Yeah. 1220 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,480 So we'll be talking about that next week. 1221 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:45,600 And I'm trying to think if I missed anything. 1222 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:46,600 I don't think I did. 1223 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,160 Yeah, I don't think you did either. 1224 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,160 Yeah. 1225 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,160 So yeah. 1226 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,160 Next. 1227 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:57,360 So you guys can look forward to that next week. 1228 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,760 Until then, this has been the All Bros podcast. 1229 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,560 I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan. 1230 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,520 And we'll catch you guys next time. 1231 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,520 Deuces. 1232 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,520 Ha? 1233 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,520 See, are we? 1234 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:08,520 Oh, God, no. 1235 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,800 What the shit was that? 1236 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,560 I have no idea. 1237 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:31,560 That was Mickey in puberty for the first time.