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What's up bros, I'm Jonathan.

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And I'm Caleb.

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We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out

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there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the All Bros.

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This week we are joined by our reigning champion when it comes to being on this podcast so

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many times.

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Sorry Vic.

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DJ from the untrained eye.

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I mean listen, Ben seems to be coming for the throne a little bit so I had to make my

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quarterly appearance just to make sure that everybody remembers exactly what time it is.

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I know, it feels like Vic completely fell out of the race there.

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Listen, Vic is the dark horse in this race and he will be back.

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Okay, I can feel it in my bones.

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As soon as I let my guard down you're gonna be like, watch this DJ, and push that little

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button and then Vic's gonna show up just like he did the last time.

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I am still extremely proud of that.

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That was, I mean, chef's kiss.

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I'm honestly amazed he didn't have to be on this one.

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I know, I tried.

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All I'm hearing is that I was second string and I don't like it.

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I don't like it at all.

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I never know.

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I didn't even know that you were gonna be on this episode.

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Caleb, I texted him and I'm like, hey would it be okay if we recorded closer to seven

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because I'm running late work.

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He's like, oh yeah, shit, I forgot to tell you DJ is gonna be on but I'm sure it's okay.

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And that's it, we're recording exactly at seven o'clock.

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So perfect timing.

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Love you too man.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Love you too man.

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Anyway this week on the podcast with 4k spotlight and through the wall we got two forms of bros

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news.

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So that's exciting.

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Two different bros but you know.

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And then after that we'll be moving on to our headliner of the evening which will be

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our breakdown of Black Panther Wakanda Forever.

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So gentlemen what do you say we get started?

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Say let's do it.

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I forget who's turning this this week.

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You can find me on all podcast platforms.

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That ad read was over the top.

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That was a great episode.

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Dude I love having Ben on.

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Especially to talk about old movies like that and he keeps like he'll send me on TikTok

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just random videos like hey we need to talk about this one.

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I'm like let's do it.

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Dude I'm telling you right now the peanut butter solution is on Tubi.

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If you guys want to watch maybe the worst movie you'll ever see.

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We can talk about it.

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Is it worse than Food Fight?

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That's the question.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Wow.

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Okay.

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That's an old statement.

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Think of a movie that's worse than that.

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We can come up with a movie from our respective homes right now that's better than the peanut

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butter solution.

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Have you seen Food Fight?

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No.

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No.

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But I've listened to at least a minimum of three podcasts including yours about how terrible

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this movie is.

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Food Fight that is.

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But listen I would be willing to put it up against Food Fight as being the worst movie

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you guys ever saw.

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So whenever you're ready to see possibly a worse movie than Food Fight I am down to clown

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for that one.

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That is a bold statement and we will be holding you to that.

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Yeah.

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I guess we will.

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You will regret it.

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Alright so this week for 4K Spotlight my personal favorite movie of the year is coming out on

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Blu-ray.

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Bros. which I actually already bought this movie digitally like literally the day it

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was announced because I think like it was in like theaters for like a month maybe not

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even that but it just wasn't doing that well so like Universal's just like okay you know

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what let's put it to POV see if it does any better with people just running it or the

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only way that you could buy it was actually on Voodoo so I think I paid 30 bucks to buy

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it but you know I'll pay whatever to support this movie so you know what I'll be buying

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it on Blu-ray as well.

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Why not?

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For how much I love this movie I'm happy to support it.

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Yeah I got the email and everything that you bought it and Braille got a notification too

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like she was checking my phone because she just heard that I had enough notification

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while I was in the shower she's like hey did you buy Bros?

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I'm like what?

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No?

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And I'm like I think that was Rose.

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I promise I didn't charge her card it was mine.

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No dude I fricking double check that shit whenever I buy a movie on your Voodoo don't

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worry.

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I still need to go through do you still have access to that DJ?

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I do and we just watched Spiral two days ago I think.

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Nice.

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What did you think of that?

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No thank you.

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Are you a big Saw fan?

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I am we Beth and I collectively are very big Saw fans.

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We bought movies separately there was like some DVD like get all seven or ten or whatever

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movies collection we bought that like I we've seen them all too many times.

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Saw 1 is the classic of classic.

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There is no more classic horror movie than Saw.

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Whoa whoa whoa whoa.

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Okay okay.

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You're gonna argue with that Rose?

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Yeah classic horror films Halloween?

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Okay well.

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That's not the same thing.

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Not the same thing.

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Yeah but he said classic horror films he said classic of classic horror films.

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That rank that puts Halloween into the mix.

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And I'm sorry.

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Nothing.

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Caleb?

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So what I will say about that.

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Don't be talking shit on Halloween.

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I'm not talking shit.

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If you're going to the upper echelon of classic horror movies your Michael Myers's and your

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Jason's and your Freddy's's they held that three man crown for a long time and I think

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Jigsaw slid his way up in there with at least that first Saw movie because that was I mean

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spoiler alert for the end of Saw but I was like I pulled my own face off when he stood

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up at the end I was like what is this movie?

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What is this movie?

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Like it's so good.

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It's so good.

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And Spiral was something alright.

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It is definitely a huge departure for the franchise.

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Like where'd it come from?

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Small divergence.

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What I liked about Spiral is it was like it seemed like an 80s movie made today because

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it was very like Captain I can't believe you're talking to me like this.

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They're like get it together man.

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You got to get whatever and stop acting like a rat or whatever the whole thing was.

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And just a lot of like over the top yelling about doing cop stuff.

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And I'm like alright we got it.

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You're the only good cop left.

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It wasn't great but I mean listen I'm down for any if we get another one I'm down for

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another Spiral.

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I would watch it.

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They're already doing it.

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They're already fast-tracking another Saw movie.

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That is nothing like Spiral.

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It's actually like connected to the original films.

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Listen I'm on down for any more any any way they want to like bring What's His Face?

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Tobin Bell back in or just do any more legit Saw stuff.

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I'm for it.

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I'm for it all.

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Did you ever listen to our episode about that one?

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About Saw?

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About Spiral?

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I want to say yes but I don't know honestly now that I've just just watched it I'll probably

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go back and listen to it.

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Now I'll try not to spoil the rating we gave it but I just basing it off of what you're

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saying right now you're not gonna like it.

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I would have I would have had some notes.

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Listen I will say this my main note that I would give is that this is the the way this

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was such a huge departure I think is that like all the traps there was no there was

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no like I know Digsaw didn't really give time to think but like there was literally

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no time to think.

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They're like this is your game there's a train coming oh god my tongue bang this is your

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game your fingers gonna get pulled off you got freaking electrocuted by water anyway

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this is your game you get waxed or your spine cut in half.

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Eh you had both happen it's like hey let it breathe have the people if you're gonna torture

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them torture them if you're gonna kill them just shoot them.

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That actually was a big concern or like a big talking point on like when we were discussing

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the movie like it just felt very quick and didn't give you a whole lot of at least I

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think I'm not gonna say anything because if you go back and listen and I didn't say any

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of that shit I'll ask you this what what grade would you have given this movie?

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So as just a movie if I had never seen any of the other saws and just was like spiral

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what is this?

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It's hard to say I because on one hand it wasn't a good movie but it was like it was

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definitely fell into the realm of like not good good movies like it was like cheesy but

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like you know what I'll I'll make a decision I give it a 72 that's what I would give it.

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A 72?

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Yeah.

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You're probably not gonna like that episode.

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Hey listen listen if your guys' TikTok has taught me anything you guys have very controversial

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opinions.

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Actually I'm curious to see what our like personal scores was.

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Okay actually our personal scores weren't far off from what you said but there are definitely

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some things that brought the the movie up for us so we'll see if you agree.

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I'll tell you this this is the last thing I'll say I wish Chris Rock this had been a

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catalyst for him to do more like serious stuff because I I liked seeing it I think he was

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way over the top in that movie but I like the idea of him playing a grizzled anything

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cop mercenary whatever like I would like to see him do something more like that.

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That's fair.

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Yeah fair enough.

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Say yeah bros comes out tomorrow so.

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Completely off subject there.

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They high five with their wieners.

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I haven't seen the movie I figure that's what it's all about.

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If you want to check it out man it's on CableZoodoo.

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I did listen to your guys' breakdown of it.

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So yeah I liked it a lot.

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There was one comment on I think I forget which movie but some yeah someone commented

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like oh you gave this movie this great but yet you gave bros which is trying to be so

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political a freaking full price ticket that is such bullshit.

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Like A you know this is our opinion right and B who doesn't like people like romcoms

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like they're not the biggest they're not the biggest money getters but who Caleb what

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is your go to sick guy movie.

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I'm a sick boy what do I do.

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I watch the notebook the notebook.

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So all I'm saying is I guess it's not a romcom but there is probably one funny part in it.

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There is probably they have a few funny parts in it.

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It's a good movie guys.

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I'm not mocking you.

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I wept like a baby even though it's ridiculous who dies at the exact same moment from holding

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hands.

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They do.

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It's a sweet moment.

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Spoiler alert I haven't seen the movie what the hell guys.

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If you haven't seen it you're probably not going to watch it at this point.

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Don't even Rose.

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You know what jokes on you I was going to watch it yesterday wow.

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Well when this comes out it will have been yesterday.

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There you go.

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Yeah what.

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Do the time do the time.

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Please don't ask me to do math.

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7 p.m. and we're a little loopy.

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Yeah.

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Poor Caleb it's a freaking 10 p.m. there basically.

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Yeah it is for both of us.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah I forgot yeah you both are two hours ahead my bad.

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Yeah.

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Anyway so you did you had a point about bringing up a notebook.

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Me.

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Yeah.

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Yeah I'm sure I did.

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I don't know what it is anymore but.

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At least he's honest.

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Oh yeah I was saying everybody loves I was I was agreeing with with Rose I'm saying everybody

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loves a good rom-com.

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They're not they're not necessarily the highest money getters but they stay be in the classics.

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So they let everybody just relax.

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Do you guys watch Billy on the street at all.

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I see it on Tick Tock and I that is literally the only place I really knew him from before

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that movie came out and he's the best for that.

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I'll tell you that seriously the bet one of the best promotions for this movie was when

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he was going around and like asking people if they have their tickets to Bros.

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And the best one is when he walks up to one lady and he's just like ma'am did you know

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that before they had one gay rom-com gay rom-com they had three movies about Groot and she's

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just like oh my god that's insane saying I am Groot he's like well I am gay and I finally

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have a movie about me.

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And then freaking she's like oh is it going to be on streaming he's just like no you have

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to get off off your ass and do something called leaving the house.

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It's how we're having this conversation just continue on to the box office.

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Exactly it's just right around the corner come on.

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Yeah I've never watched Billy on the street but I every anytime his videos pop up on Tick

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Tock I'll sit through him because he's he's hilarious.

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He really is.

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I love him.

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Alright well moving on to through the wall it is our birthday the all Bros. yesterday

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yesterday as of the day we're recording.

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Oh shit I feel like I know I we completely spaced it last week.

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Damn it.

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I didn't I didn't get Kale the cake nothing.

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I know five years of the podcast.

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Holy shit I can't believe we've been doing this for five years holy shit.

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Wow.

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Yeah we were talking about that before we started recording like our the untrained I

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started what do we say like seven months after you guys.

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So we're four years old but it's like wow like it doesn't seem like it's been that long

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at all.

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Yeah it's it's wild how quick this time is flown by.

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Like it's been awesome like love podcasting like it there's like our numbers are absolute

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trash if I even try to pay attention to them.

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But so I think everyone knows we do this for the love of doing it.

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It's our excuse to get together once a week.

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So yeah.

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Yeah it's I mean congratulations guys.

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You've earned it.

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I don't know I think that's the wrong sentiment.

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You've you've worked for all of you guys.

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All I got you was my awkward responses.

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Sorry.

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That's all we want.

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We appreciate it.

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Yeah totally fine.

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So yeah that's why I put it in the through the wall because we forgot about it last week.

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Oops.

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Well.

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Well if you guys if you guys didn't send us you know birthday cards it's OK.

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We forgot to.

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We'll forgive you this year.

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Yeah.

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Next year is a different story though.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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What is the official birthday.

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November what 11th November 14th.

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So mark your calendars dorks.

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Yeah.

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Dude should we imagine if we just opened a PO box just for that reason to see if we just

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got a card.

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Just to see if we actually got a birthday card next year.

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That would be hilarious.

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I'm not opposed to it.

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I'm not.

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I do that.

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We have a PO box and we had one listener send us a like happy one year or it was either for

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one year or for 100 episodes one of the two and not going to lie like PO boxes are not

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worth it but they are for that one birthday card.

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That's awesome.

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It's so expensive to get no mail.

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How much were you spending a month.

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I don't want to talk about it.

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You have to buy it six months at a time.

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I'm just saying you could have a PO box or you could get a moderately priced John Wayne

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Gacy memorabilia item.

329
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Exactly.

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DJ gets it.

331
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Fair enough.

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So there you go.

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I was not expecting him to throw in John Wayne Gacy so it really took me a minute.

334
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I missed the Gacy Gazette.

335
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What can I say?

336
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I'm sorry.

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I still don't have anything really to talk about.

338
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I know.

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I listened.

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I heard you say you were going to start taking it slow but that doesn't mean I don't miss

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it still.

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Thank you for listening.

343
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I appreciate it.

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Hopefully if what Caleb's talking about with his job comes to fruition I can actually have

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him on an episode of the Gacy Gazette because that would be amazing.

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Have me?

347
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Yeah.

348
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Oh.

349
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Okay.

350
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Are you getting a job as a clown Caleb?

351
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No.

352
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Okay.

353
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No.

354
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So I brought this up with you a little earlier.

355
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We didn't get a chance to talk about it.

356
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So the museum that me and Rose went to, the Grave Face Museum, they just have a bunch

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of weird shit.

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They have sideshow attractions, stuff from a circuit.

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Bunch of that.

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But then in their big room they have a, it's their serial killer room.

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So they have a bunch of stuff up there.

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So we went to go visit and Rose started chatting with the owner's wife and she was just talking

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about all these different projects that we had.

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Their stuff is just, it's very low budget.

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All of their stuff is, or the little plaques that you read are all on laminated paper and

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like stapled to the wall.

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So I brought up to Rose, I was just like, dude, I would love to hit them up and offer

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to make frames for all this stuff.

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So it just has a little bit more feel to that.

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Never did.

371
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Never hit them up or anything.

372
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But Rose was chatting with the owner about some of the gate C memorabilia that he was

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buying and whether it was authentic or not, which it ended up not being.

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One item wasn't, but at least the other one that I bought was, thank God.

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But I was on our Instagram, I was posting one of the TikToks and I saw on the, like

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that museum, they had a post calling out and being like, hey, if you know a woodworker

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or carpenter of some kind, like hit us up or like have them get in touch with us.

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Like we're needing a project, like some projects done.

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And so I messaged them cause that's something I like to do in my free time.

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And I'm like, might as well get paid for it.

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So I hit them up and they wanted me to come over and like meet with them.

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So I went and like chatted, they want like this new entry way.

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So they have a record store too and they have some like weird stuff in there, but they have

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like this back area and they want it to be like a tiki house.

385
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And it's basically all done.

386
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But the guy that they usually work with is, has been working on movies a lot lately.

387
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And so he's like kind of outside of their pay range now.

388
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And so they're like, yeah, we need, we need a new person to work on this.

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And I was just like, like, hell I'm down.

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Like as long as like, if you treat me fair, like with pay and everything, like I'll treat

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you guys fair.

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I won't like, like overcharge or, or nothing.

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Like just kind of like one of those, those deals.

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And so they're like, all right, cool.

395
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Like, let's see how this project goes first.

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But, and then like, if, if we like working with you and your work, like we'll continue

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on with this and like, we have a bunch of other projects down the line.

398
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And, and I'm like, sweet.

399
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So like starting off with this like Tiki entryway project, which should be cake.

400
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And then like next they want to do this, this catacomb hallway in there, like the museum

401
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that we went to.

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And so they're like, can you build like a, like a hallway?

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Like, and then like make it look like a catacomb.

404
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And I'm like, probably.

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And they're like, all right, fantastic.

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So they're going to take all that and I'll like, all cause they have like a bunch of

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like satanic looking stuff in the, the serial killer room.

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So they're going to take all of that, move that down into the catacomb hallway.

409
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,920
They've already taken all their, what's his name?

410
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,920
Not at Helms.

411
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That's

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Was it a game?

413
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Yep.

414
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That one

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Helms from the hangover, right?

416
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Yeah.

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I mean,

418
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Totally the same people.

419
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,960
Totally.

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So they just moved all of his stuff into its own little exhibit.

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And so they're saying like, once like they clear out like all that stuff and like have

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the catacomb room, they're going to move the rest of the serial killer stuff to its own

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little area.

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And then they're going to turn that their current serial killer space into just a full

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on John Wayne Gacy room.

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And they're like, and we have like big plans for that.

427
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And I'm like, okay, what do you want to do with that?

428
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And they're like, we want to make that space look like you're the, in the inside of John

429
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Wayne Gacy's house.

430
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Jesus Christ.

431
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Yeah.

432
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:53,480
And I'm like, so I'm like, you want, eventually you want me to build John Wayne Gacy's home?

433
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,480
And they're like, yes.

434
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And I'm like, I am in.

435
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Because as we all know, that would be Rose's Disneyland.

436
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,640
Yeah.

437
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,760
But they want it to be like, they want it like they have some like crazy plans for that

438
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because of what they want it to do.

439
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,120
They want it to look like his house, but they want the entryway to be like you're going

440
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,040
through a crawl space.

441
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240
Good Lord.

442
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:24,360
So these people are, yeah, you need to make one of those, one of those floors that like

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00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:36,560
pulsates, you know, like the, the souls of all those dead children, like, because by

444
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,360
the way, what you are building, what they are not telling you is you are building a

445
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,360
haunted house.

446
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:44,360
That's what you're doing.

447
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,840
Legit.

448
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,720
And like they have a bunch of other projects and they're like, yeah, we just need some

449
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,120
shelves and anytime we get like new storage, like, cause they like to go.

450
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,720
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

451
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,040
You just went from where you go thing.

452
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,160
John Wayne games.

453
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,520
We also need like some shelves and stuff, you know, a doorstop.

454
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Yeah.

455
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,920
Like it's just crazy projects and like they've been working with their current truck contractor

456
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,840
for like 10 years.

457
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,400
And so they're just like, yeah, he's been our go to guy, like fixing anything.

458
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,040
And so I'm like, okay, cool.

459
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,760
Like, I don't know how I'm going to do some of this bigger stuff.

460
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,600
Like cause I'm working out of a dinky little shed and they're like, oh, you can use our

461
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,600
warehouse space.

462
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320
And I'm like, sick.

463
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Sounds good to me.

464
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,320
Yeah.

465
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960
So that's, that's kind of what the projects turn into.

466
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,160
And I'm like, this sounds awesome.

467
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,880
And I told Rose, he's going to have to take a leave of absence or something when I'm working

468
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,840
on the John Wayne Gacy house.

469
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,840
Damn right.

470
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Yeah.

471
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,520
You gotta go and be as like a helper for the day or something like, Oh, get your scraps

472
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,000
out.

473
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,960
What does this guy do?

474
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Like, Hey, listen, he's integral.

475
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,560
Okay.

476
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,400
To the process.

477
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,880
He's going to be touching a lot of your effects, but don't pay attention to that.

478
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040
He needs to do that.

479
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,920
Oh, but it should be fricking badass.

480
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:14,000
If it all works out, if they want me to be kidding, I'm kidding.

481
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000
You're not kidding.

482
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,120
I would not do that.

483
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,600
You're not even kind of kidding.

484
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,920
He's got the face paint on right now.

485
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Listen, you guys can't see he's got the face paint on right now.

486
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,720
Like he's ready.

487
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,400
I mean, I think I'd probably have to put on a couple more pounds, but you know, I got

488
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,400
the height.

489
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Throw a pillow in there.

490
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,840
You'll be fine.

491
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,840
There we go.

492
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,840
I'm set.

493
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,840
I'm set.

494
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840
Yeah.

495
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:45,160
But that's, that's the, uh, the big project that they're wanting me to do for right now.

496
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,640
That's awesome.

497
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Dude, I'm so excited for you.

498
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,240
This is going to be, you know, it should be pretty bad at like, and hopefully they don't

499
00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:02,120
listen to this, but they, they're planning on like certain projects taking like, like

500
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,920
they're thinking this entryway is going to take like at least a month.

501
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,120
I'm like, I could probably get it done next week.

502
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Wait, did they tell you to keep all this stuff secret?

503
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Uh, no.

504
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Okay.

505
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,480
No, I like, they just, they just have, they just have like, uh, a deadline or a timeline

506
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,480
in their head.

507
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,880
Cause they're like, they're thinking the, the catacomb hallway is going to take like

508
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,400
a few months to do.

509
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,480
They're just like, we just need it done by like Valentine's day.

510
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,720
And I'm like, it's just a basic hallway.

511
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Like do I get an early finish bonus?

512
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,400
Yeah.

513
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,640
Kind of what I'm thinking too.

514
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Fair enough.

515
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,640
But yeah.

516
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:54,120
Anyway, that's my cool news of the week.

517
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,960
And that's been the Casey Gazette.

518
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,720
Anyway, we'll see you guys next time.

519
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,720
We snuck in a secret episode.

520
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,720
There you go.

521
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Yeah, we sure did.

522
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Only true Gazette fans will know what episode five really was.

523
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Or those people that listen to our show and not Gacy Gazette are like, what the shit is

524
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,160
the Gacy Gazette?

525
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Just imagine I, I label, we label the next episode as episode six.

526
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,000
It's like, where the fuck did episode five go?

527
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,240
We're doing that.

528
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,040
We're doing, I don't care if you call it episode five.

529
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040
I'm, I'm titling it as episode six.

530
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,160
I can't even remember if I'm on episode four or five.

531
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Is it five?

532
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,160
Yeah, you're on five.

533
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,160
I am on five.

534
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Okay, cool.

535
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Oh shit, dude.

536
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
That's going to be so funny.

537
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Okay.

538
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Anyway, what do you say we move on to our headliner?

539
00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:15,000
Say let's do it.

540
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,000
All right.

541
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,040
So for this week's headliner, we'll be breaking down Black Panther Wakanda forever.

542
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,600
So Caleb, do you want to let everybody know how we break down films on this podcast?

543
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920
I would love to.

544
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,120
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories

545
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:41,080
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros and Untrained Eye letter grade.

546
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:47,520
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

547
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,320
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.

548
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,720
All of those numbers will get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give

549
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,360
us our final score for this movie to compare it to other movies of a similar score and

550
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,000
then a percentage just so we can have an official ranking.

551
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,600
And something that's fun about this one in particular, we have this one also linked to

552
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:21,840
our official MCU ranking, which we haven't completed yet, but it's mostly like phase

553
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,960
one, phase two movies that we haven't scored.

554
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Yeah, we're really bad at that.

555
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,240
Yeah.

556
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Like one of these days.

557
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Wait, have you guys done Iron Man yet?

558
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,600
No.

559
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,600
No.

560
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Oh, Beth and I were just talking about rewatching that.

561
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:44,640
So just saying, wink nod.

562
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,080
I mean, hell, if you want to break it down, sure.

563
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:54,000
I mean, listen, after this, after Wakanda Forever, like it's almost seems like going back and

564
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,520
revisiting Iron Man is a little necessary.

565
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Fair enough.

566
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,520
That's fair.

567
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,520
Yeah, that is absolutely fair.

568
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,400
But yeah, like we have.

569
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,400
Let's see.

570
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,400
Like there's been a couple that are just kind of like out.

571
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,400
We did.

572
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:18,240
We have an episode about Avengers and we have one for Age of Ultron, but we started doing

573
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:25,600
like consistent breakdowns on these movies, starting with Spider-Man Homecoming.

574
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,520
So we have everything from Spider-Man Homecoming on.

575
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
OK.

576
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Yeah.

577
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,880
So we still have like a few.

578
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,760
So most of it's most of phase one, not including.

579
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:47,240
Avengers and then most of phase two.

580
00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:50,880
Or was it was this is we're in phase four right now, right?

581
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,880
We're in phase.

582
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:52,880
Yes.

583
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Well, technically we're in phase five because this was the final movie in phase four.

584
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520
Yeah.

585
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Yeah.

586
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,520
OK.

587
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:06,360
So, yeah, we still got some movies in phase two.

588
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,720
So it's like Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Civil War, Ant-Man, the first Guardians

589
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:19,880
of the Galaxy, Winter Soldier, Dark World, Iron Man 3, and then the first Avenger, Thor,

590
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,880
Iron Man 2, Hulk, Iron Man.

591
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,920
Those are the ones you have done or have not done?

592
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Those are the ones we have not done.

593
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Oh, buddy.

594
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,440
We got a few.

595
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,920
I don't know if we're going to do like full episodes about it.

596
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,400
I think that's just something we might do behind the scenes.

597
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,920
I mean, you could mash up like all the Iron Men into one or like all the Thors into one.

598
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,920
Well, you guys are going to do it in Thunder, right?

599
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Yeah.

600
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:53,320
Like we have Thor and Dark World that we would need to do because we've already done Ragnarok.

601
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,680
We actually like Ragnarok was our first breakdown.

602
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,680
That's true.

603
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,680
It was.

604
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,680
Yeah.

605
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,680
And then we did like all of the...

606
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,680
That's a good one to start with.

607
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,680
That was a great movie.

608
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Yeah.

609
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:19,120
So I heard the podcast that inspired me to like and Rose to kind of do one was that like

610
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:27,200
they were talking about Thor Ragnarok and we were like pushing really, really hard to

611
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:34,600
like get everything like ready and to record a podcast episode about Thor Ragnarok.

612
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:42,800
And so we did that and then there's like Justice League after that and then all the way here.

613
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,800
You can track our progress.

614
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,800
Didn't we...

615
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,200
I think after Justice League, didn't we try to do like a two movie episode, but like it

616
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,200
did not...

617
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Yeah, that was horrible.

618
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,800
I think it wasn't like Coco and the Last Jedi.

619
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,800
Yeah.

620
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,800
Yeah.

621
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,400
See, you gotta do like, if you're going to do off ones like that, you gotta do versus,

622
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,160
you know what I mean?

623
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,720
That Coco versus the Last Jedi.

624
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:14,120
Like, oh my God, they like the Last Jedi better.

625
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,920
Absolutely not.

626
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,200
That was an interesting episode and a complete and utter shit show.

627
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,200
Yeah, dude.

628
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520
I mean, listen, you need those.

629
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,920
You need those and you need the early ones to remember.

630
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,920
You gotta remember.

631
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,760
I recently listened to like the first two or three episodes of Dragging the Table, my

632
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
solo podcast.

633
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,960
Don't do it.

634
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,400
It's the worst.

635
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,400
It's the worst.

636
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,600
But I leave it up there to remember.

637
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:57,280
I think it's easier to hear other people be cringy rather than yourself.

638
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,680
Because when it's yourself being cringy, you just kind of want to walk into traffic.

639
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,000
I start folding into myself until I just disappear and I'm just like, all right, I'll catch you

640
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000
guys in the next life.

641
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
I'm done with this one.

642
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Yeah.

643
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,320
Dude, every time I feel like I need a humbler, I listen to the first like five seconds of

644
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,680
our first episode and I'm like, OK, there we go.

645
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:31,040
So the podcast that I do with my wife and co-host, Bethany, love my life.

646
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,340
If you listen to, I don't know, the first 20 episodes of that, I'm like doing an introduction

647
00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:43,960
to a podcast and it's literally I'm like, guys, you're about to hear a podcast.

648
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,480
We talked about some stuff.

649
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,960
We laughed about some stuff.

650
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,920
It was a great episode that was laughing and talking.

651
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:56,080
I don't know if I mentioned that, but, you know, we love doing the show.

652
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080
It's a great show.

653
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,960
Anyway, here's the show that happened like 20 times.

654
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:09,360
Because I was like, people aren't going to understand unless I tell them.

655
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,880
So here you go.

656
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Oh, man.

657
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,800
I remember our early ones.

658
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,600
I went through like for.

659
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,040
A lot longer than I probably should have.

660
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:37,040
I was cutting out all the arms and like I I got so good at picking those out like I

661
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,800
could like.

662
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:46,920
I could like scroll to a random episode, be like, that's an that's an and that's an.

663
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,560
By the way, that is what no one understands about podcasting is when you're in that phase

664
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:59,880
of over editing everything and you do something that is just magic.

665
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,440
You're like, look at how I joined all this together.

666
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,760
I'm a wizard and no one notices.

667
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,720
No one notices and you've done literal magic and no one will ever know.

668
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:18,000
Yeah, it's funny because it's like it's like one of those deleted scenes or just like stuff

669
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,480
that like people have shot.

670
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:25,280
No one will ever see that stuff that that like the extra stuff you shot because it's

671
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,160
not in the movie.

672
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Yeah, listen, my version of that was what we used to record on was like sometimes it

673
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,560
would just not.

674
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320
It would just be like, we're good because we would just record.

675
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,280
I think we're recording straight into audacity and it was just not.

676
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,840
It would just drop.

677
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:50,280
And so I would perform actual literal miracles and I would join things together in ways that

678
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,800
were impossible.

679
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,800
And I was like, yes.

680
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,160
And people were just like, the episode was pretty good, like pretty good.

681
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:03,880
I'm a surgeon.

682
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,560
We had that issue with audacity a lot.

683
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Sorry, happy birthday guys.

684
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Yeah, funny enough, our original mics right there on our headphones.

685
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Yeah, I mean, we all got to start somewhere, you know?

686
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,320
Yeah, it's true.

687
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,320
Five years strong.

688
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:33,720
So anyway, getting back into what we came here for talking about.

689
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,600
Really, we came here for this part.

690
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
This is the part we've all been waiting for.

691
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,440
Rose, take it away.

692
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,440
No, I'm sorry.

693
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,440
I jumped the gun.

694
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,440
Absolutely.

695
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:50,280
It is our favorite segment reading with Rose time and heads up, if you have not seen Wakanda

696
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,280
Forever, definitely go check it out first.

697
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,440
I don't know what the hell you're doing here.

698
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Go see this movie and then come back and hear Rose try to pronounce some of these names.

699
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,520
It's going to be amazing.

700
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,520
Y'all are mean.

701
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,200
I'm going to be reading along with you, Rose.

702
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Okay.

703
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,200
Yeah.

704
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Didn't Beth want to be present for this part?

705
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,200
She's here in spirit.

706
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600
Miss you.

707
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,800
I got to put on some chapstick because I feel I'm going to probably be licking my lips for

708
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,800
how bad I'm going to have this.

709
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,960
Yeah, please take a sip of water.

710
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Do your me, me, me, me, me, me, me.

711
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Blow on the little.

712
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:46,080
All right, here we go.

713
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,960
T'Challa, king of Wakanda, is suffering from an illness which his sister Shuri believes

714
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,520
can be cured by the heart shaped herb.

715
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:07,680
Shuri attempts to synthetically recreate the herb after it was destroyed by Killmonger,

716
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,200
but fails to do so before he succumbs.

717
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,300
One year later, Wakanda is under pressure from other nations to share their vibranium

718
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,520
with some parties attempting to seal it by force.

719
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,400
Queen Ramonda implores Shuri to continue her research on the heart shaped herb, hoping

720
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,880
to create a new Black Panther that will defend Wakanda, but she refuses due to her belief

721
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,800
that the Black Panther is a figure of the past.

722
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:36,480
In the Atlantic Ocean, the CIA and US Navy SEALs utilize a vibranium detecting machine

723
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,840
to locate a potential vibranium deposit underwater.

724
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,360
The expedition is attacked and killed by a group of blue skinned water breathing superhumans

725
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,000
led by Namor, with the CIA believing Wakanda to be responsible.

726
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:58,440
Namor confronts Ramonda and Shuri, easily bypassing Wakanda's advanced security.

727
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Blaming Wakanda for their vibranium race, he gives them a ultimatum.

728
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,080
Deliver him the scientists responsible for the vibranium detecting machine, or he will

729
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,080
attack Wakanda.

730
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:17,760
Shuri and Okoye learn from CIA agent Everett Ross that the scientist in question is MIT

731
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:30,640
student Rory Williams.

732
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200
And they arrive at the university to confront her.

733
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,820
The group is pursued by the FBI and then by Namor's warriors who defeat Okoye before taking

734
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:43,320
Shuri and Williams underwater to meet Namor.

735
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,920
Angered by Okoye's failure to protect Shuri, Ramonda strips her of her title as General

736
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:54,760
of the Dora Milange and seeks out Nakia, who has been living in Haiti since the blip.

737
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:08,400
Namor shows Shuri his vibranium rich underwater kingdom of Talocan.

738
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,520
Talocan.

739
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Talocan.

740
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,800
Talocan.

741
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Thank you.

742
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,860
I'm sure you're loving this right DJ.

743
00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:29,120
Oh for sure.

744
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,760
It's Rory Williams by the way.

745
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,760
Damn it!

746
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,760
Son of a bitch!

747
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,760
Yeah I caught that one too.

748
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:36,760
I just didn't.

749
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,760
But listen, you got the Dora Milange.

750
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,560
I've heard these words and never seen them and you have actually been killing it hard

751
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,360
because I was like, the Dora Milange?

752
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,360
What?

753
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,480
Oh shit.

754
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,280
Which he has protected for centuries from discovery by the world.

755
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,880
Bitter at the surface world for enslaving the Maya, Namor proposes an alliance with

756
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Wakanda against the rest of the world but threatens to destroy Wakanda first if they

757
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,640
refuse.

758
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Nakia helps Shuri and Williams escape and Namor retaliates with an attack against Wakanda

759
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,280
during which Ramonda drowns saving Williams.

760
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Namor vows to return in a week with his full army and the citizens of Wakanda relocate

761
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,080
to the Jabari mountains for their safety.

762
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Yes!

763
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Meanwhile, Ross is arrested by his ex-wife and CIA director Valentina Allegra de Fontaine

764
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,560
for secretly exchanging classified intelligence with the Wakandans.

765
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,800
Hold up, hold up, hold up.

766
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,320
Did they address that that was his ex-wife?

767
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Yes.

768
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,320
They did.

769
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,320
Yep, they did.

770
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,320
When?

771
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,080
When he was in the car with her because he was saying that his wife called and she was

772
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,920
like, uh, something about like, either she mentioned something about like, uh, you're

773
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,840
gonna tell her you're with your ex or something like that.

774
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,240
Like, yeah, it was...

775
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,440
And I think there's also a part like when the first part on the bridge when she's just

776
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,160
like, oh hey, can I, can you give me a ride to the, so it's such and such and he's like,

777
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,480
yeah, but that's a nine hour drive and she's like, yeah, but I got a lot I want to apologize

778
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,160
about our wed, about our marriage or something.

779
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,800
Dude, I completely skipped over that in my brain.

780
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,040
Oh, shit, really?

781
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,520
I must have missed that because I, that was, okay, continue.

782
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,480
That was news to me.

783
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Using a remnant of the herb that gave Namor's people their superhuman abilities, Shuri reconstructs

784
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,640
the heart shaped herb and ingests it gaining superhuman abilities and meeting Killmonger

785
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,720
in the ancestral plane who urges her to seek revenge.

786
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:49,640
Shuri dons a new Black Panther suit and is accepted by the other Wakandan tribes as the

787
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Black Panther.

788
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Despite M'Baku's urges for peace, Shuri is determined to exact, exact vengeance on Namor

789
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,800
for Ramonda's death and orders an immediate counterattack on Tal...

790
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,280
I'm gonna...

791
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,280
Telokhan.

792
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,280
Telokhan.

793
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,640
I'm gonna get it right.

794
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,800
Actually I think that's like the last time that they say it in this, so.

795
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,280
Yeah.

796
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Preparing for battle with, with a...

797
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Ew!

798
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840
I don't know how to say it.

799
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,760
Is it, Caleb do you know how to say that name?

800
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,760
Is it Aeo?

801
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,760
Aeo.

802
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,760
Aeo?

803
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,760
It's just Aeo?

804
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,760
Okay.

805
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Assuming position of general of the Dora Milage, Shuri bestows, I don't know why I said it

806
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:41,040
like that, Shuri bestows the Midnight Angel armor upon Okoye who in turn recruits Dora,

807
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,840
Dora member Anika to join her.

808
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,120
I hope I said that right too.

809
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Or is it Inneka?

810
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,120
Yep.

811
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,120
It is Anika?

812
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Yep.

813
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Yes.

814
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Williams creates an Iron Man-esque powered exoskeleton to aid the Wakandans.

815
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,400
The Wakandans lure Namor and his warriors to the surface as a battle ensues.

816
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Shuri traps Namor in a fighter aircraft intending to dry him out and weaken him.

817
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,840
The pair crashes on a desert beach and fight.

818
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Shuri gains the upper hand but realizes the similarities between their paths and implores

819
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Namor to yield, offering him a peaceful alliance.

820
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Namor accepts and the battle ends.

821
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,200
Namor's cousin, Namora, is upset at Namor's surrender but Namor reassures her that their

822
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,320
new alliance will allow them to conquer the surface world one day.

823
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:33,880
Williams returns to MIT leaving her suit behind while Okoye rescues Ross from captivity.

824
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,160
In Shuri's absence, M'Baku steps forward to challenge for the throne.

825
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:44,100
Shuri visits Nakia in Haiti where she burns her funeral ceremonial robe in accordance

826
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:48,560
with Ramonda's wishes, allowing herself to finally grieve T'Challa.

827
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:59,520
In a mid-credit scene, Shuri learns that Nakia and T'Challa had a son named T'Challa, who

828
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Nakia has been raising in secret far from the pressure of the throne.

829
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:31,840
Toussaint reveals his Wakandan name, which is T'Challa.

830
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,280
So what'd you guys think?

831
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:43,320
Dude, this movie was so freaking good.

832
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,760
Yeah, it was amazing.

833
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,600
It's a great sequel.

834
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,680
I agree.

835
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
Yeah.

836
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,720
I don't know how to...yeah.

837
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,840
Well that's been this episode.

838
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Yeah.

839
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,880
This has been the episode of Three Guys Agree.

840
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,880
Mm-hmm.

841
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,880
It's over.

842
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,880
Dude.

843
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,400
I...I'll be real.

844
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:20,640
When they announced that Namor was going to be the antagonist in this movie, I did not

845
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:29,240
know how to initially feel about it because Namor in the comics is such a bland character

846
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:33,040
and kind of just a douchebag.

847
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,200
This guy was kind of a douchebag.

848
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,520
Yeah, like he had it, but at least he had some substance behind him, I feel, too.

849
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,200
All right, wait, wait, wait.

850
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Before we get into that, I want to start at the beginning and say that two things.

851
00:51:50,560 --> 00:52:00,240
One, the celebration of T'Chaka, and basically of Chadwick Boseman, his death was...it was

852
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:01,240
crazy.

853
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:05,480
I don't know that there was a better way, because I've talked to a bunch of people about

854
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:12,720
this, of like, was there...do you guys think there was any better way to handle an off-screen

855
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:17,000
death in the way that they did with him?

856
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,160
Nope.

857
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,640
This was the only way.

858
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,640
It was perfect.

859
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,440
I honestly thought he was already going to be dead.

860
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,880
I didn't expect them to actually have this whole...open up the whole storyline of him

861
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,840
literally being on his deathbed with an illness and Shuri trying to save him.

862
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,360
I was not expecting that.

863
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:40,240
I was afraid that they were going to do something where they quote unquote showed him.

864
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,240
Yes.

865
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,240
Oh, yeah.

866
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:50,960
But when they didn't, and just following Shuri was the perfect move.

867
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Yes.

868
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Yeah.

869
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,800
And I agree with all of that.

870
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,680
I liked how they did his...you know, were doing his funeral, showing it as a celebration

871
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,520
of life, kinda.

872
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:11,320
And I gotta tell you, the part that I feel like got everyone was the tribute opening

873
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,920
where it was instead of all the different Marvel characters when it's showing, you know,

874
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:23,680
the Marvel Studios coming up, it's all Chadwick Boseman and it was just silent.

875
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,920
That was like, oh my god.

876
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,240
Dude, I wish mine was silent in my movie theater.

877
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,600
I don't know if like a couple in front of me was like laughing at something else, but

878
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,840
they were actually giggling during that part.

879
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:36,840
Oh, I would have...

880
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,520
Are you freaking kidding me?

881
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,480
I would have dunked their head in a tub of popcorn.

882
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,440
Dude, I should have.

883
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,520
Like such disrespect.

884
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,080
I don't care what you're laughing at.

885
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600
I hope it's not this, but come on.

886
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,120
Two things.

887
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Two things, one, there was someone with like the creakiest chair during that part that

888
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,840
was just like, meeeeeeeeeeee.

889
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Meeeeeeee.

890
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:05,440
To the point to where it was like, for a minute I was like, is that supposed to be happening?

891
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,520
Is this part of what's going on?

892
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,120
But I don't know about your guys theaters, ours actually did have giant tubs that like

893
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,320
said Wakanda forever on it and we totally got one.

894
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,240
Pretty sure Cinemark Adam, I did not get one.

895
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,560
I went to AMC, but yeah, I didn't get one.

896
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Dude, I feel so spoiled when it comes to like these new releases because I can, because

897
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:44,560
of my schedule, I can go and see a brand, like a new movie on Thursday at three o'clock,

898
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,160
right before everyone gets off work.

899
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,480
Like they even offer discounts for new movies.

900
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:57,040
Like my AMC offered a 25% discount because no one was showing up to this viewing.

901
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:04,480
Like I walked in, there was maybe 10, maybe 15 people in the theater and it was like a

902
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,440
big ass freaking theater too.

903
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,240
And that's awesome.

904
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:10,240
Yeah.

905
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,440
So anyone who made a noise got like, like no one made a noise during the intro, luckily,

906
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,480
but anyone who made a noise throughout the movie got like an instant death glare.

907
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:21,480
Good.

908
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,360
That was, that was the cool thing too.

909
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:28,840
I thought is like basically the first, the first bit of the movie and the last bit of

910
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:35,860
the movie I felt like was dedicated to him, dedicated to, to Shala, but you know, to Chad

911
00:55:35,860 --> 00:55:41,800
Wood Boseman, which was, I don't know, it was the end of this movie was really good.

912
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,200
Like there were a lot of good parts in this movie, but you know, I don't know if you're,

913
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,720
the end is supposed to be your favorite part, but the, I think the end was my favorite part

914
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:52,720
of this movie.

915
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:58,600
Like the last, I would say like seven to 10 minutes of it, including the mid credit scene.

916
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,560
Like that was, yeah, it was, I don't know.

917
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:10,080
It's been a while in a Marvel movie since my mouth has dropped that wide when they can

918
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,320
announce that they had a son together.

919
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,560
I'm like, what?

920
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,760
And then, God dang it.

921
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,200
When he, I mean, do we want to talk about this right now?

922
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Or are we going to talk about the beginning?

923
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,200
I don't know.

924
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,200
Cause I'll talk about it.

925
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,760
We bounce around so it doesn't really matter.

926
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:35,840
Him being named T'Challa was like such a fricking, like a gut punch.

927
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,560
Cause you knew that was going to be his name, even though they didn't call him that at first.

928
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,200
Like, and tell them your real name.

929
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,200
It's T'Challa.

930
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,640
Oh God.

931
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:53,200
But one thing from like, you know, from like a, you know, what is going to happen?

932
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,360
Why do you have to get this?

933
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,120
To me, that did a lot of things like, A, it was cool to see that that was going to be

934
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,120
the continue.

935
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:06,640
Like T'Challa was still going to exist in the MCU, but it also answered the question

936
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,280
of like, people are saying like, oh, the Black Panther, what, you have to retire T'Challa

937
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,000
because Chadwick Boseman died.

938
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:22,920
No, they actually found maybe the most interesting way of recasting that role ever because now

939
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,920
Shuri gets to have plenty of time to be Black Panther.

940
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,760
M'Baku gets to be leader of Wakanda for a while.

941
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,440
And then T'Challa gets to come home and be like, what's up?

942
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,000
It's me, your boy back at it again.

943
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,680
I'm ready to be Black Panther.

944
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:40,880
I'm ready to be King.

945
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,400
What's up?

946
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,080
And you know, M'Baku's kid is going to be like, but I'm the new leader.

947
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,740
And he's like, nope, I am the true, I am the true descendant.

948
00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:54,520
Like my father before me, it's a Star Wars thing.

949
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,520
My arm.

950
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,800
I don't know.

951
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:08,520
I thought that was handled like, because people are still complaining about like, you know,

952
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,040
about taking away the T'Challa character.

953
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,040
They did not.

954
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:18,960
They recast it in the coolest way that I think you could have done that in like a homage

955
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,960
to him.

956
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:25,880
And I think that character to Chadwick Boseman, like it's a it's a rebirth of that character

957
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,520
rather than just putting another guy that just kind of looked like him in there and

958
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,060
saying, look, it's the T'Challa.

959
00:58:32,060 --> 00:58:33,760
He just came from another dimension.

960
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,760
There's multiverses now.

961
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,760
Am I right?

962
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:48,360
Like I was really on the fence on like whether or not I wanted T'Challa to still be a part

963
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:55,960
of the MCU and and everything like it was I was swapping back and forth being like,

964
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,760
yeah, like I think they need to recast.

965
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:05,440
And like even Chadwick's family like urged Marvel like he would have wanted T'Challa

966
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,120
to be recast.

967
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,360
And like Marvel is now.

968
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,240
But I absolutely agree with you.

969
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,920
This is like one of the cooler ways to do a recasting.

970
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,680
Yeah, it's not it's not recast.

971
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,680
That's the thing.

972
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,680
It's not recasting.

973
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,720
It is like literally passing the mantle to his son.

974
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,200
So I don't know.

975
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,200
It's very cool.

976
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Yeah, dude, I don't know about you guys, but I was like.

977
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,160
Openly just crying through like a lot of this movie.

978
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,120
Anytime they talk to four times.

979
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:50,080
I so I I made it through like the opening when he's like when they like announced that

980
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:56,760
he like has passed, like I got through that and I was like, OK, like I can I can make

981
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,760
it.

982
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,000
And then I saw the opening sequence and just being completely silent.

983
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:07,440
And then the show to Chadwick Boseman like tribute, I was like, oh, like freaking like

984
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,520
ugly crying.

985
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,760
And then I cried through the entire freaking funeral.

986
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,640
That one that the silence got me.

987
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,760
And I'm going to be honest with you, the only other two times it got me again was at the

988
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,240
end when it was like, this is his son.

989
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,440
I was like, eh.

990
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:32,040
But the one that really got me good was when Shuri got taken and Ramona was like, you're

991
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,640
out, you're fired.

992
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,640
I hate you.

993
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,960
Get out of my face forever.

994
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,720
What are you trying to say?

995
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,120
I lost everything and you just told me you lost the last thing I had.

996
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,520
Go directly to hell, lady.

997
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:51,800
And like her like seeing that I saw someone on Twitter like and this is why Angela Bessette

998
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,200
gets them awards for acting.

999
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,200
But what's her face?

1000
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,200
Akoi?

1001
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,200
What is her?

1002
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,400
What is the girl's name that plays her?

1003
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:01,400
I don't know.

1004
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:07,560
But whatever Michonne like Denea Guerrero.

1005
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:12,680
That was such a well done scene.

1006
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:18,360
That was probably one of my other favorite scenes in that movie was that part because

1007
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Akoi is like so like I've lost things too.

1008
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,040
It's crazy.

1009
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,040
I didn't mean to do it.

1010
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:29,360
And when she just tees off on her and is like I've lost everything and you see her face

1011
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:37,800
of like I am hurt and I have nothing I can say because I was thinking of myself.

1012
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,800
Boom.

1013
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,800
Spear in the ground.

1014
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:40,800
I'm out.

1015
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,960
I have nothing to do with the out right now.

1016
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,680
And Beth actually made a great point.

1017
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,560
She was like she was like but the next thing she did was go and get the next last person

1018
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,920
that she had and send her in to go and save her daughter.

1019
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:07,640
I was like listen they can't all be perfect.

1020
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,640
But great point.

1021
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,280
Well I don't know.

1022
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:21,480
I think in Nakia's defense Nakia had never quite like failed a mission before.

1023
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,640
That's true.

1024
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:29,160
She kind of still had a decent track record at least in Ramon does eyes.

1025
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,680
Akoia she she f'd up bad dude.

1026
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:38,840
And I was totally I forget who like tried to come to Akoia's defense.

1027
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,080
Like I think it might have been Mbaku.

1028
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,560
But whoever tried to come to her defense I was like totally like this is like this is

1029
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:46,560
unfair.

1030
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,080
And Angela Bassett changed my mind.

1031
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,080
Yeah.

1032
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,360
She was like oh OK well we're all just going to be quiet now.

1033
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Sorry about that my queen.

1034
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:02,360
I'm going to go ahead and leave now.

1035
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:12,440
Oh my gosh dude if she doesn't get an award for this movie that will be an absolute crime.

1036
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:20,520
I got I was chills when she was talking to the United Nations.

1037
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,760
Yeah the United Nations.

1038
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:29,960
And then they bring in those freaking French like mercenaries the way that she just like

1039
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,360
eyeballing the freaking French lady.

1040
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,200
Well that was that was another scene too that I was like because I was right up front and

1041
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:43,680
it was like OK like you're you're here saying that we you you want us to bargain with you

1042
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,120
and this is what you're doing behind our back.

1043
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,320
No no it's not like that.

1044
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,160
You don't get to pretend like we're being diplomatic and send your freaking dirty work

1045
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,160
boys in.

1046
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,840
No and they're going to kneel in front of us.

1047
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,320
How about that.

1048
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Dude I don't know about you guys but I knew something was up like when they were when

1049
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:11,240
those guys were breaking into the lab as soon as that like that one chick was when he's

1050
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,520
like who's in charge and she immediately pointed I'm like you didn't really put up that much

1051
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,520
of a fight.

1052
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,520
A fight yeah.

1053
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:23,560
I was like something's fishy and then the freaking gates open and the dormal logic come

1054
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,680
in and I'm like yes.

1055
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:31,360
Like you guys are screwed.

1056
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,800
That's great I was watching something today too that I forgot I need to rewatch what was

1057
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:43,820
it the Falcon and Winter Soldier show that I forgot that they were in that as well like

1058
01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:47,240
they showed up there for a minute to be like nah we're gonna go ahead and wreck shop here

1059
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,240
too.

1060
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,240
Suck at you nerds.

1061
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:57,480
By the way too in the movie when they were like we gotta go get our favorite colonizer

1062
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:03,320
Beth and I both were like the Winter Soldier is gonna be in this.

1063
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:08,520
That too.

1064
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,520
I completely forgot about Ross.

1065
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:12,520
Me too.

1066
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:19,200
Which is really sad because he's played by such an amazing actor but the character is

1067
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,200
just not well written.

1068
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:26,360
And it's so weird hearing him do an American accent like it throws me off every single

1069
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,360
freaking time.

1070
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,760
You stole the words right out of me because as soon as he opened his mouth to do his no

1071
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,920
no no he opened his mouth to do his first line and I was like stop it.

1072
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,920
That's not you don't talk like that we all know you.

1073
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,920
That's not Bilbo Baggins.

1074
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:59,680
Dude but freaking Namor they made him so interesting like way more interesting than I've ever read

1075
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,240
about him.

1076
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,240
That's okay.

1077
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:11,800
Like so I'm not sure what you guys know about him from comics or whatever.

1078
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,280
So they kind of rewrote everything about him.

1079
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:25,440
So the only thing that they kind of got on the money with was that he's a mutant.

1080
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:31,340
But he is like the ruler of Atlantis in the comic.

1081
01:06:31,340 --> 01:06:33,680
And he's like someone that carries around a trident.

1082
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,560
He's basically Aquaman.

1083
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,960
But I think they made him better than Aquaman.

1084
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,880
Well that's what I was going to say is like I haven't seen the Aquaman movie.

1085
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:50,720
My only experience with Aquaman on the big screen is in Justice League.

1086
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:55,240
And I think I like I still like Jason Momoa better than this guy because I don't really

1087
01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:02,840
know this guy but I for sure like Namor much better than Aquaman.

1088
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:10,880
Like no hate to Jason Momoa but it's such it was such a cool everything about it was

1089
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,400
great like I liked him because he was what we're saying part of his thing was he was

1090
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,640
a douchebag.

1091
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:26,040
He is a douchebag but he is like he has got he is clearly like a very thoughtful tactical

1092
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,040
leader.

1093
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:32,560
Like he is he is always thinking steps and steps ahead of everyone.

1094
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:37,200
Like the end of the movie was like the perfect thing of it because we're like as soon you

1095
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,200
said it in the description Rose like when he was talking to her he was like listen just

1096
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,200
relax.

1097
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:48,920
They got it they're going to attack them first so they're not coming down here.

1098
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:52,360
They're for sure not coming down here so just chill.

1099
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,600
They're going to get they're already going after them.

1100
01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:00,640
They're going to continue to go after them and when they do we it's going to be so good

1101
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,640
for us.

1102
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:12,960
Oh dude I love like what they did with Namor and like his new heritage like starting off

1103
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:20,680
in like the Mayan Aztec world and like so good.

1104
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,080
Like Namor in the comics is so freaking boring.

1105
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:30,240
The most interesting thing that he does has been like tricking invisible woman into having

1106
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,240
an affair.

1107
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,240
Oh shit.

1108
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:38,400
Yeah so in the comics he uses his like he has like pheromones that he puts off and it

1109
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:45,000
like he used it to seduce invisible woman and I love the memes that have come from this

1110
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,800
like posted a picture of John Krasinski.

1111
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,760
I don't know where you are but I love you girl.

1112
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:55,520
Yeah but like the picture like they I love like the picture like they'll put a picture

1113
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:02,440
of John Krasinski's Mr. Fantastic in the Namor and being like yeah Reed is definitely losing

1114
01:09:02,440 --> 01:09:04,440
his wife.

1115
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:08,880
Oh my god that's amazing.

1116
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,960
What was I going to say?

1117
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:12,960
I lost it.

1118
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,920
Dude but he was intimidating.

1119
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,920
He was.

1120
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,920
Oh that's what I saw.

1121
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:24,120
Is this like I don't know if this is true I saw it on the internet but apparently in

1122
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:28,120
water he has like Hulk level strength.

1123
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Like that is supposedly like his power his power range is Hulk level while he's in the

1124
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,240
water.

1125
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,000
I think I saw that somewhere too.

1126
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Yeah so they.

1127
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,360
Bananas to me.

1128
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:45,840
I wouldn't say that's like comic accurate truth but Ryan Coogler did come out and say

1129
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:53,760
that when he's like as powered up as he can get like he's on the same level as Thor like

1130
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,200
in terms of strength.

1131
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:04,200
I don't know I'm yeah I don't know I'll be glad to see more of him show up in the

1132
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,600
in whatever capacity it is.

1133
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:12,360
Yeah I hope we get to see more of him like it would be a shame if we didn't.

1134
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,360
You really would.

1135
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,320
That was what I thought.

1136
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,320
Go ahead.

1137
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:24,680
No I was just saying I just love like the everything that they added to Namor from this

1138
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:32,560
movie just made just blew the comic book version out of the water.

1139
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:40,520
Well and that's I don't know that's one cool thing that I think that the MCU has done is

1140
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,840
like they took because I remember when Civil War said it too many times but when Civil

1141
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:50,760
War was coming out I went and bought the omnibus or whatever that had all the whatever in it

1142
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,960
and I read it and I was like well this can't happen.

1143
01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:00,160
Half these people aren't even in the MCU what could they possibly do to make this movie

1144
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,720
even kind of like this.

1145
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,880
Like the people they have writing even though I don't necessarily agree with what they've

1146
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,560
done with those maybe the last couple of movies I feel like some questionable choices have

1147
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:18,560
been made like one through line is that they are good at adapting what came in the comics

1148
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:24,960
to translating it to the screen in a way that like everybody can enjoy even if it's not

1149
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:31,080
exactly comic accurate like people that know the comics are I feel like for the most part

1150
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:36,080
still happy with what they get and I only say that because they don't seem to be as

1151
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,560
adamant as Star Wars fans are.

1152
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,860
The haters that is.

1153
01:11:42,860 --> 01:11:43,860
Very true.

1154
01:11:43,860 --> 01:11:54,680
By the way for having no source material before the movie Star Wars fans are wild but anyway.

1155
01:11:54,680 --> 01:12:08,320
But yeah like it's really cool like because I never like really felt or like understood

1156
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:19,600
how impactful having a superhero that shares the same heritage as you like I've never quite

1157
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:26,120
understood what that's like which for those of you that don't know I have like some Hispanic

1158
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:32,120
in my family and my mom like kind of raised us in that culture.

1159
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:39,600
And so seeing a character like this like someone that didn't really like give two shits about

1160
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:47,400
it was really cool to see someone like share that like to see someone on screen that that

1161
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:54,400
shared that and so just kind of make solidified those feelings of like representation for

1162
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:55,400
me.

1163
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,400
Hell yeah man.

1164
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:05,640
I mean like yeah we need we need like a more diverse superheroes or villains or whatever

1165
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,680
on on screen and.

1166
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:16,560
I'm just waiting for the Italian superhero to finally emerge.

1167
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,880
I'm just kidding I have a hundred syllables in my name.

1168
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,240
What I thought was really cool about this movie like I didn't realize it until after

1169
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:31,800
I saw it and I saw it was like straw hat goofy or something talking about it and he was showing

1170
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:37,440
while he was talking about it it never struck me he was showing the one of the posters for

1171
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:44,880
the movie and you see Shuri and everyone behind her you know kind of in the normal way you

1172
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,760
would see all the Marvel characters but then there's a line and then there's the ocean

1173
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:57,520
and then the reflection is no more and his whole gang and that I was like of course they

1174
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,880
were trying to tell because that's what I got out of that movie it's like oh like these

1175
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:10,080
two people or these two cultures or whatever they they lived parallel existences without

1176
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,360
really knowing knowing each other.

1177
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,760
I don't know that that was what.

1178
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,600
Boy you would think as long as it's been since I saw this movie it's been days and days that

1179
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,160
I would have a much more concise better way of saying what I'm trying to say.

1180
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:33,800
I don't.

1181
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:40,240
I don't know I just thought it was cool to see like have them start to tell a more story

1182
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:45,960
and you could see almost immediately you're like oh this is this parallels almost perfectly

1183
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:51,480
to the Black Panther like yes it's not ten thousand years old or whatever it is that

1184
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:57,760
the Black Panther is but it's the same idea of like we need this we need this protector

1185
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:06,400
that will that will help our people you know that will help our people.

1186
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:20,720
Yeah it like freaking amazing like Ryan Coogler writing this story amazing yes like he like

1187
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:29,960
I can't even imagine having to rewrite your entire story.

1188
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:35,640
Now I would love to hear what his like I know that Marvel's probably going to like recycle

1189
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:44,560
like what his original idea for but for this movie was but I would love to hear what he

1190
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:54,600
was planning on for like a Chadwick Boseman if he were like alive like what we have because

1191
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,680
was you would think I think you can see part of like there I think a lot of this stuff

1192
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:05,620
that happened towards the middle of the movie like the middle or like the back half of the

1193
01:16:05,620 --> 01:16:10,240
movie like it seems like there was a lot of stuff that was always supposed to be there

1194
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:17,280
that might have been there from the beginning but what was it I mean we haven't even talked

1195
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:25,200
about it yet Riri Riri Williams like that was what did you guys think about her introduction

1196
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:34,280
and and kind of how they handled her in general leading up to the end of this movie I guess.

1197
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:39,720
I thought it was fun I mean I don't know you guys might have more problems with it than

1198
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:47,080
I did I don't I mean it wasn't like anything spectacular but I thought it was fine I'm

1199
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:52,520
I will say I'm interested in the Ironheart series now.

1200
01:16:52,520 --> 01:17:00,920
Yeah same here it's just it got it captured my interest in like Ironheart and I like I

1201
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:07,960
knew a little bit about Ironheart like not a whole lot but I know that she's in like

1202
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:14,920
within the MCU is on the same like intelligence level as Tony Stark and that's probably the

1203
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:23,000
the limit of what I know about her but I mean from what we saw she is really interesting

1204
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:32,880
she's fun kind of has like a like more naive Tony Stark vibe about her which which I like

1205
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,320
so I'm excited to see.

1206
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:42,120
No I like her a lot too I just thought that my only thing is like I ever since Marvel

1207
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:50,680
put out werewolf by night I am like okay you guys figured something out here do more of

1208
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:57,360
this and I know that Ironheart is getting her own her own series or whatever coming

1209
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:04,760
I think next year in like March or something I would not have minded a one-off of you know

1210
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:11,000
a special presentation like a 40 or 50 minute whatever about Ironheart that like gave us

1211
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:17,440
more time because it's like I like the time that we had with her it felt like kind of

1212
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:22,640
shoehorned in a little bit to be like hey we got to get this person in to kind of look

1213
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:28,200
at this it's gonna be crazy got a new Ironman anyway she's blasting off we'll see you next

1214
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:35,120
time I just I just wanted to see more is really what it boils down to so I can't wait for

1215
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:42,640
that series but yeah I don't know I liked her a lot too.

1216
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Yeah she was really fun and I love like the the scene where they were in the in her dorm

1217
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:58,440
room and Akoya just scares the ever-living shit out of her and then she what was it she

1218
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:10,320
throws a Bluetooth speaker at Akoya and then she just like straight up like insults Akoya's

1219
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:17,360
makeup like she's covering like the tattoos on her and everything like I thought that

1220
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:22,280
was the funniest shit.

1221
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:27,400
It's funny because I saw something that was saying was showing how like that scene compared

1222
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:36,480
to when Tony Stark first came to Peter Parker and I really she makes me think of I know

1223
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:41,680
she's I knew that she was supposed to be like smart like Tony but I think that she also

1224
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,280
had the like she reminded me of like if Tony Stark and Peter Parker were one person like

1225
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:58,360
without you know the alcoholism and the dead parents.

1226
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:03,240
But I mean also too like one thing I feel like everyone I keep at least forgetting about

1227
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,400
and I'm sure I don't know everyone else probably is too is like they are basically right in

1228
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:13,040
front of us being like every movie you're gonna see that here's a new Young Avenger

1229
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:18,360
new Young Avenger new Young Avenger like here it comes I've completely forgot again I know

1230
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:23,360
you hate you said you don't like watching like synopsis or like reviews or anything

1231
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:29,920
before you talk about a movie Caleb but I realized that I have to kind of like I have

1232
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:34,840
to hear someone say something so I can think like against it but I was watching something

1233
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:41,280
and I forgot that young son of Hulk showed up at some point and she Hulk was like hey

1234
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:45,080
this is my son was like wait what?

1235
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:52,840
Dude don't don't even get me started on what they did to Scar.

1236
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:59,920
All I'm saying is is that like you know we basically have it now right like Spider-Man

1237
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:05,080
or Peter Parker can still be their Spider-Man because he's been you know D Tony Starkified

1238
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:11,160
and he's just hanging around in tights now and then the rest of the Young Avengers like

1239
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:18,720
yeah it's good I don't know that also seeing her made me look forward to that too.

1240
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:26,680
Yeah dude I'm I'm kind of excited to see like if they if they do more with Spider-Man within

1241
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:34,880
the the MCU I'm kind of excited to see him as like the veteran yeah like the one who's

1242
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,640
been through like the shit.

1243
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,600
The 20 year old vet yeah.

1244
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:44,560
Yeah like he's I mean he's still on the young side and probably like fits better within

1245
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:53,480
the age range of the Young Avengers but it's like he's also been through the gauntlet with

1246
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,880
the with the OG's.

1247
01:21:55,880 --> 01:22:01,560
Yeah I mean he would be I feel like he would be like kind of if he wasn't the leader he

1248
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:06,560
would be the right-hand man to whoever was the leader.

1249
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:15,200
Yeah I think it's hard to tell who's gonna like take up that leader role and like I thought

1250
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:21,560
at first it might be like Doctor Strange but he just kind of seems like over the Avengers

1251
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:22,560
shit.

1252
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:29,800
Yeah Doctor Multiverse of Madness was I gotta watch that movie again because he yeah he

1253
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:35,680
definitely seems like he's like well getting too old for this.

1254
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:43,400
Yeah and I don't think Wong is even though I feel like he could easily be the head of

1255
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:48,120
the New Avengers I doubt he's gonna be the head and it's just like I don't feel like

1256
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:55,560
they've established a new leader well enough with like with anyone it's like Captain Marvel's

1257
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,160
off doing her own thing.

1258
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,400
I mean I guess you have the Hulk but.

1259
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,840
No you don't.

1260
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:09,680
Yeah I'm not not the Hulk I want.

1261
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:15,400
And like the only other one that like can come and like make a difference so I feel

1262
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:22,520
like I don't think Thor is like capable whatsoever anymore and so it's like the only one you

1263
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:27,040
got left is Hawkeye like kind of leading the the Young Avengers which I think could be

1264
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,160
really interesting but.

1265
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:35,840
Doesn't Clint finally deserve retirement.

1266
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:41,840
Yeah it's like I know is I just want to see more Kate and Yelena that's what I really

1267
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,840
want.

1268
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:49,280
I want that so much those two were amazing together in that series.

1269
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:54,240
I hope that.

1270
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:59,760
Sam Wilson kind of takes up the leader role a little bit better when his movie finally

1271
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,200
comes out.

1272
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:07,000
That would be dope like I don't know why it's been so long since I've thought of that sure

1273
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:13,400
that Joe but yes he would that's it if he's not the leader I quit this stupid franchise

1274
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,960
I'm done I don't have any time anymore.

1275
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:21,880
I've watched one hundred and seventy five of your movies you've gotten enough from me

1276
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,520
make him the leader or I'm out.

1277
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:29,400
That movie is going to be the shit because Tim Blake Nelson's coming back to play the

1278
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,400
leader.

1279
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:37,920
Dude that we're getting like that quantum mania is the one that is like I'm afraid to watch

1280
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:42,800
because it's either going to be too much or not enough and I don't want it to be either

1281
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,520
I actually don't want to know anymore I'm like you know what what if we all just went

1282
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,880
home what if we just stopped fighting and we stopped tearing each other apart at the

1283
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,280
quantum level what about that.

1284
01:24:54,280 --> 01:25:03,080
I feel like that movie can lead into some good stuff because like my thought on it so

1285
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:09,240
there's a another young Avenger there's a few young well actually that's not true.

1286
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,760
I'm trying to think through the young Avengers real quick but I'm pretty sure there's only

1287
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:23,800
one that they haven't really introduced yet and that's iron lad.

1288
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,160
Do you think that'll be homeboy from Iron Man 3?

1289
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,800
That's what everyone's saying.

1290
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,760
I hope not.

1291
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:37,720
I hope not because Iron Lad eventually becomes Kang.

1292
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,720
No shit.

1293
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:44,600
Yeah within the comics the future version of Iron Lad is Kang the Conqueror and then

1294
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:49,280
like Kang comes over like screws with him with Iron Lad and Iron Lad's like I'll never

1295
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,400
become you and like kind of like goes his own way.

1296
01:25:53,400 --> 01:26:00,320
So I would love to see them handle that like have a young Kang the Conqueror or like a

1297
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:06,600
young actor to play Iron Lad.

1298
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,640
I think that that could be really freaking cool.

1299
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:23,800
But yeah if I'm let me see who I know Iron Lad is like a significant character I forget

1300
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,920
what his real name is though.

1301
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:38,800
Oh he's wait is he who's his parents?

1302
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:44,000
Bruce and Martha Wayne.

1303
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:51,080
So Iron Lad is a descendant of Reed Richards.

1304
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,560
Really?

1305
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,800
Yeah.

1306
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,760
Wow okay.

1307
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,760
So I think that could be.

1308
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,440
We know that they have kids in other dimensions so maybe Reed Richards did have a couple kids

1309
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:12,680
or a great grandchild who will make his way into RMCU.

1310
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,600
Yeah.

1311
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:19,920
So I would love to see that.

1312
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:24,840
Like I think that would be so freaking cool.

1313
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,600
But anyway.

1314
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,800
So anyway getting back into like this breakdown starting with story.

1315
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:43,320
I felt this felt the story felt very reminiscent of the arc like this was just kind of a longer

1316
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:52,080
formatted film about the arc T'Challa went through in Civil War.

1317
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,080
Yeah yeah.

1318
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,800
Okay yeah that's a good way to look at it.

1319
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:01,080
Yeah that's that was the thing I mean even to the point where like it even went a step

1320
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:09,680
further whenever she finally went to the ancestral realm and trying to see her mom saw Killmonger

1321
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,960
and say I know it's in your heart little girl.

1322
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:16,800
It is nothing but vengeance here.

1323
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,280
That's why I'm that's why I showed up.

1324
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,280
Yeah.

1325
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:27,440
Well okay like brother like sister.

1326
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:35,400
That was was trippy and I'm glad that they brought Michael B Jordan back to to do that.

1327
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,440
Oh yeah.

1328
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:39,360
It.

1329
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:48,080
Like that hit hard and especially the the hurt that Shuri felt coming out of that and

1330
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,840
it's just like I don't want to talk about it.

1331
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:59,360
Dude can I just tell you they're like again another super cool sequence was her going

1332
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:05,320
to the ancestral realm seeing Killmonger there having that thing of what did you see.

1333
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:10,080
Don't worry about it get out of my face and then when she is the Black Panther and when

1334
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:17,160
you like that music I don't know what that music was that played but it was not MCU music

1335
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,720
like that was something different that played whenever she dropped down for the first time

1336
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:26,880
I'm like what is this like this is like killer music and that's what you see from her for

1337
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,640
like the rest of the movies like whenever she first shows up to anywhere they play that

1338
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:38,520
like I don't even know how to recreate it with my mouth like you like I don't know you

1339
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:44,160
know what I'm talking about like it was just like a crazy sound like it's very I know we're

1340
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,160
not talking about music but it's a very very like so rare I can't even think of another

1341
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:55,160
time that any kind of music makes me sit up a little straighter in my seat when I'm watching

1342
01:29:55,160 --> 01:30:02,520
a movie but when that hit I was like what is about to happen like this is business is

1343
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,560
about to happen right now.

1344
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:13,920
Yeah it it kind of did have very like intimidating almost like villainous vibes to it.

1345
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:14,920
Yes.

1346
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:24,120
Like it was it was perfect but I loved what they did and like like I said it did feel

1347
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:34,760
very like reminiscent of T'Challa's story where she loses a parent and has to like learn

1348
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:39,440
like forgiveness and some mercy.

1349
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:43,800
Well she's already even though it wasn't for someone didn't kill him she lost her brother

1350
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:50,440
she I mean we know by the end that she had not really grieved for that and then in the

1351
01:30:50,440 --> 01:30:58,920
midst of all that loses her mother and is like yeah like that's when it starts getting

1352
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,640
wild.

1353
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,200
Yeah.

1354
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:07,680
Oh freaking loved it though.

1355
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:20,040
I loved how she was trying to like broker an agreement with Namor in regards to like

1356
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:29,240
keeping Talokhan's secret and everything and I feel like they could have come to an arrangement

1357
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:35,520
but freaking like I was on edge when Nakia was coming I was just like shit shit you're

1358
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:40,240
gonna screw this up.

1359
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:46,480
Like you're gonna ruin this deal.

1360
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:57,020
And like it's what I loved is how like understandable like his choices were.

1361
01:31:57,020 --> 01:32:04,440
Like he thought that he was on the verge of like of making this deal but he's getting

1362
01:32:04,440 --> 01:32:11,640
betrayed by like he's getting the little slip around from the queen comes back and the princess

1363
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:17,480
is gone he's just like oh shit.

1364
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:26,040
Like I got played and like the way that his whole like tone seemed to shift when that

1365
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:33,160
happened and he's like all right I'm not playing around anymore and just went ham on Wakanda

1366
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,880
with those freaking water bombs which those were absolutely terrifying.

1367
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:42,000
Yeah dude seriously.

1368
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:51,160
Dude like I never thought that I'd be afraid of a water balloon.

1369
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,860
Like when he when they pulled that one out and I was like I saw like I you could see

1370
01:32:55,860 --> 01:33:00,360
it like you saw the little water bomb and I'm like okay what the hell is that supposed

1371
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:07,640
and then it like freaking explodes or blows everyone off like I was like holy shit and

1372
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:15,520
then like every time they pulled one of those out I was like shit's about to go down.

1373
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:22,240
And then I was losing it when they had the two whales like dragging the nets full of

1374
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,840
them towards the Wakandan ship.

1375
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:30,680
That was terrifying like oh my god.

1376
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:37,440
Yeah dude seriously.

1377
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:38,880
But I love that.

1378
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:48,280
I loved how how well the story flowed how they dealt with Chadwick's passing like I

1379
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:53,040
love so much about this movie.

1380
01:33:53,040 --> 01:34:02,040
Story wise this was damn near perfect perfect execution even though it did kind of have

1381
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:06,000
hints of something that we've seen before.

1382
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,400
I don't know about you guys I'm sitting like the 93 range.

1383
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:13,580
What do you guys think?

1384
01:34:13,580 --> 01:34:19,440
So I will go and say I don't know if it's I don't know if this would be more for story

1385
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:20,920
or for writing.

1386
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:29,040
Like this I liked everything that happened in this movie.

1387
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,560
I had I always I've been trying to talk to Beth about it.

1388
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,360
I've never been able to pin down exactly what I mean by this.

1389
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:42,720
Maybe you guys know when I say it but like this movie was very long but I also felt like

1390
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:47,680
there was a lot of stuff that just got rushed through and but there was also stuff that

1391
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,080
didn't get enough time either.

1392
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:57,960
Like I almost feel like because like the re stuff I feel like got like sprinted through.

1393
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:03,320
I would have liked more time with her but again I it's weird to say in a three hour

1394
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,640
movie I don't know where you would put more stuff with her but that's still somehow is

1395
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,240
the case.

1396
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:18,280
And then there were other things that was like not when Shuri was grieving but like

1397
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:24,040
there were just times when like you were like all right we got it.

1398
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,040
Let's let's go.

1399
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,040
There's a movie happening.

1400
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:31,360
Let's let's let's get it together.

1401
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,320
So I would still say 90 though.

1402
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:34,640
Like I don't.

1403
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:35,640
Yeah.

1404
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:43,280
I think like addressing your your point I think they kind of did a little too long of

1405
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,720
a tour of Talo Khan.

1406
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,960
And here by the way can we just say that was the best.

1407
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:56,760
We live in a fantasy world and that suit is the best suit that you can get.

1408
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,720
Whether it's like oh we're in this school pressure suit.

1409
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,920
We're just Patrick star in it all over the place.

1410
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:04,600
Oh look at that over there.

1411
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,800
Oh that's weird.

1412
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,440
No I cannot bend my arms.

1413
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:10,320
I hope I don't get an itch on my neck or something.

1414
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,720
Anyway I love this place.

1415
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:13,720
It's pretty cool.

1416
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:20,160
That would be more of like wardrobe or something.

1417
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,160
Yeah.

1418
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:29,920
But yeah I think I think the Ironheart series probably should have come out before this

1419
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:30,920
movie.

1420
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,280
Well that's what I was saying.

1421
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,280
That was my point.

1422
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,840
I don't know if I made it correctly about the special presentation like werewolf by

1423
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:37,880
night stuff.

1424
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:42,120
If they had just they didn't have to have the series but if they just had like a quick

1425
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:49,480
like 40 minute introduction to Ironheart then I think that would have been that would have

1426
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:56,040
taken the place of it wouldn't have felt like they sprinted through her being in that movie.

1427
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,200
Yeah.

1428
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:03,320
I think the reason that they probably did like they definitely sprinted was because

1429
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,840
she's getting her own series.

1430
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:07,720
So they're just like OK we'll we'll find out more about her later.

1431
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,960
I'm like no we kind of need that info going in.

1432
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:11,960
Yeah.

1433
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:18,360
Also you're like here's someone who's super cool that does a lot of fun stuff but don't

1434
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,360
pay attention to that.

1435
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:20,360
Like what.

1436
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:21,360
No they can fly.

1437
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:22,360
Like that's fine.

1438
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:23,360
Don't worry about it.

1439
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:24,360
You'll hear about it later.

1440
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,400
They're flying right now.

1441
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,080
Don't worry about it.

1442
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:34,920
That's what I like about the comics because it's like as soon as they introduce a new

1443
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:40,880
character or just something new they're just like OK and now you can follow this timeline

1444
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,720
like follow this this trail and you're like OK.

1445
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:45,720
Yay.

1446
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,320
And now I have I can follow this story and this story and then you can go on and it just

1447
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:57,800
leads to an infinite tree of reading.

1448
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,800
What do you think.

1449
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,120
What do you think of your story Rose.

1450
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,240
Not I thought was really good.

1451
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:10,000
I think I'm probably going to match DJ with a 90 but I still have very few problems with

1452
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,720
it.

1453
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:16,720
Deciding to make sure the main focus of the story was an amazing choice.

1454
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,040
And there's really no other person that you should have.

1455
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,800
I feel I know like I think me and Cale throughout the idea of like oh you know like what if

1456
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,320
they made Nikia the Black Panther.

1457
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:31,960
But watching this movie now it made absolute sense to make it sherry.

1458
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:37,560
Yeah no I really don't have a lot of problems with this movie.

1459
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:44,320
I will say I think I know a DJ but I will say Cale probably liked the villain more than

1460
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:45,320
me no more.

1461
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,320
No more.

1462
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,080
I think if I'm wrong he was a really good villain.

1463
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,160
But I probably will say when it comes to Black Panther villains I think I like to kill Monger

1464
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:54,160
a little more.

1465
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,160
But I can do that.

1466
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:56,160
I don't know just.

1467
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:57,160
He was good.

1468
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,160
It's unfair.

1469
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:09,720
I'm going to say this even though it's unfair and it doesn't count.

1470
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:14,160
But I mean Black Panther was better than this movie.

1471
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:22,320
Like Wakanda Forever was good but out of the two I would watch Black Panther again.

1472
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:28,560
I mean I would watch both of them again but like it just sucks that like this had to fall

1473
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:35,380
into the trope of like the sequel is not as good as the original because of the circumstances

1474
01:39:35,380 --> 01:39:36,960
surrounding it.

1475
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,760
But it's it was still really good.

1476
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:46,720
And honestly I didn't see Neymar really as like a villain until literally the very end

1477
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:52,280
when he was like we're going to wait until they get got and then we're going to go and

1478
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,280
strike.

1479
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:59,640
Like he kind of seemed like just a guy like if you had if in the parallel universe where

1480
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:04,480
we got the Neymar movie instead of the Black Panther movie and he was fighting against

1481
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:10,640
Black Panther in this one we would all be on his side and be like no this guy's great.

1482
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:17,840
Like he's he's the hero of the story up until that last point where we're like wait our

1483
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,160
hero's a bad guy.

1484
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:29,880
Maybe yeah I think I felt like his motivations were really strong in this.

1485
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:36,680
Like he wasn't making himself known until people were like found a way to track vibranium

1486
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,400
which is something that he uses to protect his kingdom.

1487
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,720
And then he's like OK yes shit got to get involved.

1488
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,600
Yeah no that's a very good point.

1489
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,080
So I think about it too.

1490
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:54,960
He probably he probably had more in common Neymar did with T'Chaka than with T'Challa

1491
01:40:54,960 --> 01:41:01,440
only because like he Neymar seemed more like he would just go in there and get his hands

1492
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:04,960
dirty to keep his people safe.

1493
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:12,400
I feel like T'Chaka I mean T'Chaka clearly wasn't always like that but yeah I don't know

1494
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,080
I got to rewatch Black Panther again.

1495
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:16,080
Sorry.

1496
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:21,240
Yeah I mean T'Chaka killed his own brother to keep Wakanda safe.

1497
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,360
I'm just saying.

1498
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,000
And Neymar wasn't that far behind.

1499
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:34,760
He's like I'll take out this entire freaking country to keep my my people safe.

1500
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,920
Well yeah how many people did he kill just right on Front Street.

1501
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:42,240
Like when they say like two thousand people died on that frigate or whatever it was out

1502
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,840
there.

1503
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:50,200
And he was like yeah and I will also kill this basically child for being too smart.

1504
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,640
Yeah that was wild.

1505
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:57,400
Well I mean you got to think though.

1506
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:04,120
It is wild but yeah like they live in a depth that no human person could possibly ever get

1507
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:09,600
to and now the human people are trying to show up where they're at.

1508
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:17,560
So it's like yeah I mean you can say that he's a bad guy but not really.

1509
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,360
That's what I loved about him.

1510
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:29,580
Like I loved how just not it's like not right but he wasn't wrong.

1511
01:42:29,580 --> 01:42:35,720
So yeah I'm moving on over to writing.

1512
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:43,000
This is I think this is where the movie absolutely shined.

1513
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,000
Yeah I can definitely agree with that.

1514
01:42:46,000 --> 01:43:01,600
Like oh I loved the conversation that Shuri and Namor were having about his origins and

1515
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:07,680
like talking about Talokhan and his like his feelings about like that area and like why

1516
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:12,480
he feels the need to protect them so strongly.

1517
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:19,700
Like that kind of it gave me or made me very reminiscent of Thor's conversation with Jane

1518
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:26,200
Foster in the first movie when he's talking about like the nine realms and everything

1519
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:31,500
and how like magical that conversation was.

1520
01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:34,640
So I like really appreciated that.

1521
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:47,320
And then just whoever did the writing for Queen Ramonda needs all the money.

1522
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:52,360
And then Angela Bassett needs the rest of the money.

1523
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:59,280
We're delivering it as powerfully as she did but we will get into that with acting.

1524
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:12,840
What did you guys think of like writing and dialogue and all that other fun stuff?

1525
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:14,960
Well I will go.

1526
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:24,080
I agree with everything you said but I was I don't know I had a point in the middle of

1527
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:29,120
what you were saying and I was like I will listen instead of just wait to talk.

1528
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:30,120
And now it's gone.

1529
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,800
But yeah I don't know I agree with it all.

1530
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:41,960
Like I started by saying like what a cool idea it was to recast T'Challa in that way

1531
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:45,400
of using his you know the sun no one knew about.

1532
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:51,200
I don't know they just had a lot of cool like you've heard me talk throughout this episode.

1533
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,200
A lot of cool sequences.

1534
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:58,800
A lot of cool interactions that I don't know I really appreciate it in this movie.

1535
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,360
So I yeah I liked it.

1536
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,760
I thought it was good.

1537
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,760
I don't know should I give my score?

1538
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:06,760
I'm not sure.

1539
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:07,760
Yeah absolutely.

1540
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,640
What would you what would you say that with?

1541
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,000
I'm going to make Rose do it first.

1542
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,000
Oh damn.

1543
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,880
Because he left me hanging in the wind.

1544
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:25,200
So I'm calling you out Rose.

1545
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:29,360
Okay well for okay so well then okay I'm just going to give my score right now and then

1546
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:30,360
back it up.

1547
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:35,720
So my writing score I'm going to give a 93.

1548
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:40,880
The writing like Kayla pointed out earlier is freaking amazing in this movie.

1549
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:48,160
One scene that sticks out to me with the writing is it's at the funeral of Ramonda and it's

1550
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:55,800
when Mbaku is talking to Shuri and how she's just asking like hey like why are you even

1551
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:56,800
here?

1552
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,160
And you know he points out you know like hey you know it was your brother's dying wish

1553
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:06,640
that I protect you and it's just like those emotional moments between those two.

1554
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:10,440
Honestly all the emotional moments between every character in this movie.

1555
01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:11,440
Yeah.

1556
01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:15,760
I definitely agree with DJ how Black Panther is definitely it will be the movie I watched

1557
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:21,480
them more so out of this one but I feel the reason for that at least for me is that this

1558
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:27,880
movie is so emotional to watch that the first one is more of a like don't get me wrong the

1559
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:32,840
first one is very emotional but it's still a fun movie to watch.

1560
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:39,400
This one I feel just gets in your feel so much that there's probably going to I'm probably

1561
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,400
going to struggle getting through this movie the second time watching it because I'm going

1562
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:49,080
to try not to cry four more times and I'm probably going to fail but just I feel I'm

1563
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,880
more likely to go back to the first Black Panther and it's nothing against this movie.

1564
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,840
This is a great sequel.

1565
01:46:54,840 --> 01:47:00,920
It's a very well written sequel but just it hits you in the motions in the emotions not

1566
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:11,800
too hard but in a big way that it is sometimes hard to get through but in the best way possible.

1567
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:16,280
Jesus Christ Rose thank you for saying that much better than I did.

1568
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:21,080
You actually fully expressed what I was trying to say when I was like not as good as the

1569
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:22,680
first one.

1570
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:33,000
Next thank you first of all and second of all we're going to be great minds think alike

1571
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:37,400
listen well they do because I threw you out there because I was like I am also going to

1572
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:44,200
give this a 93 because that was that was I listen two more and we're soulmates.

1573
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:45,200
Okay.

1574
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,200
Yeah.

1575
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:47,200
Awesome.

1576
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:53,800
What did you give it Caleb?

1577
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,720
I'm going a little I'm going a little higher.

1578
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,760
I'm sitting at a 95.

1579
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,760
Nice.

1580
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:05,620
But yeah absolutely agree with everything that you said and you you freaking nailed

1581
01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:14,800
it on the head Rose like yeah freaking for sure perfect like like I've no I've like now

1582
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:22,400
that you pointed that out like I'm able to recognize it like I go back to the fun MCU

1583
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:27,560
movies way more often than I do the ones that like hit really hard.

1584
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:28,560
Yeah.

1585
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:33,880
Well this one hits extra hard because it's not it's not like oh the guy the guy in the

1586
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:39,480
movie died it's crazy man anyway I can't wait to see him in the next movies and like there

1587
01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:46,200
is reality tied to this that makes it it's funny because you saying that Rose made me

1588
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:52,000
kind of finally realize why I was like not like on edge is the wrong way of saying how

1589
01:48:52,000 --> 01:49:00,040
I watched this movie but just kind of like uneasy I guess because it's like we are all

1590
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:07,320
like dancing around the this idea that this dude in real life is gone and like you know

1591
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:13,600
he did he did a lot of things other than Black Panther that were really good and he did very

1592
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:20,720
well and I think that you know he deserves credit for too but like this I don't know

1593
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:28,280
like this this transcended it all because like everyone could look to this and be like

1594
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:33,760
I don't know I don't know how to describe it other than like he was he was a superhero

1595
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:40,480
that everyone could be like could relate to not just you know a certain group of people.

1596
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:45,480
Yeah one thing I wanted to bring up because I'm not a hundred percent sure if I could

1597
01:49:45,480 --> 01:49:54,920
bring it up anywhere else when you were talking about M'Baku and like his whole like situation

1598
01:49:54,920 --> 01:50:12,440
at the ceremony for Queen Ramonda I appreciated very much how his tone about killing Namor

1599
01:50:12,440 --> 01:50:22,200
like changed like before it was just oh this fish man has come into our our waters like

1600
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:31,880
and like more or less threatened our our royalty like he needs to be put down like today and

1601
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:38,040
then as soon as he started like hearing what they what his people call him and realizing

1602
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:42,560
that they're calling him the flying serpent god and they're like that's how they view

1603
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:49,320
him they view him as a god and he's like yeah if we kill him it's nothing but fighting the

1604
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:58,120
rest of our lives. Yeah that was no yeah that maybe I have to bring my grade up. I'm sorry

1605
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:03,160
Rose we might have to come together on a different grade because that there was so many things

1606
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:13,520
like that I am I'm I'm I will go to 94 because this like it was so yeah there were so many

1607
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:18,200
things like that like I guarantee you going through that movie again like the next time

1608
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:24,680
I watch that there will be a handfuls more of moments like that that were just so like

1609
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:30,720
yeah that was a great character moment for him like that was super well written but it

1610
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:35,760
was also like a really good character moment for him because you got to see that like contrast

1611
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:46,840
of him so yeah no I do have to raise it. I'm also kind of glad or I'll say happy in a way

1612
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:54,560
that Shuri actually I don't know if he did this on purpose I highly the ending was a

1613
01:51:54,560 --> 01:52:02,400
little confusing with him like coming out of the ship and saying that he's claiming

1614
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:08,600
like coming to like challenge for the throne. That was yeah I will absolutely agree. It

1615
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:14,480
felt weird because I'm like okay did he like do this on purpose but it's it felt weird

1616
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:20,960
for it's like how would Shuri not know that she she was supposed to do that. He implied

1617
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:26,880
though that she knew right because I also saw I also saw on my travels through the internet

1618
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:33,320
today like apparently the implication was supposed to be that not only had they spoken

1619
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:40,280
of this like he was there for the ceremony of it but he will in fact be the leader of

1620
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:47,000
Wakanda going forward and she will just be just she will be Black Panther going forward

1621
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:53,760
and this will just be a case where Black Panther and the leader of Wakanda are not one in the

1622
01:52:53,760 --> 01:53:00,760
same. Yeah which I'm not upset about at all. I don't think that's a very good decision.

1623
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:06,500
I really like that a lot. And again it sets it up perfectly for Tachaka's kid whoever

1624
01:53:06,500 --> 01:53:11,760
that is who thinks he's going to be the heir to the throne and then T'Challa rolls up and

1625
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:25,000
is like what's up everybody. Daddy's home. Who is this dork. He's like I'm your leader.

1626
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:35,360
It's me the king. Yeah. So I I like had to reflect on that a lot like when I came out

1627
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:41,800
of that because I'm like OK like sure he had to have known. Like there's no way she didn't.

1628
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:47,000
Like how do you just ditch a ceremony like that. Like where you're giving up the king

1629
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:53,480
like now. Like I like you said I think that was definitely previously discussed and she

1630
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:58,900
just am I isn't wanting to rule. But it's confusing too because it's like isn't she

1631
01:53:58,900 --> 01:54:05,180
supposed to fight for the title of Black Panther as well. But it isn't wasn't. If I'm

1632
01:54:05,180 --> 01:54:11,920
remembering this wrong tell me but didn't she say a Bacchus say that they had spoken

1633
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,960
or something or like she didn't something. Didn't he mention her or something when they

1634
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:20,920
were there on the waterfall. I think he did because he's just like the queen. The princess

1635
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:27,320
sends her regards or some something. Yeah. So it's like because especially to implies

1636
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:35,440
that she knew. Yeah. Because at this point he's not he's clearly not the you know we're

1637
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:40,160
not sure if he's the enemy or not like we were in the first movie. Like he's obviously

1638
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:45,240
on their side and he wants the best for Wakanda. So it wouldn't make sense for him to be like

1639
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:53,760
I'm a cheeky little guy. I just did this behind everyone's back. Yeah. He he does. It doesn't

1640
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:58,960
seem. Yeah. Like you said doesn't seem like he'd be the type of person now to do that.

1641
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:07,200
It would be a wild move if he decided to do that. I think sure he just isn't ready for

1642
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:15,400
that responsibility yet. And I'm curious whether or not moving forward if sure he's going to

1643
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:23,240
keep the title of Black Panther because she was like not for it. But she I think she recognized

1644
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:28,960
that there was a need for a Black Panther. Well if you remember she didn't really believe

1645
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:34,400
in it. Like she didn't believe in any of it. She was like everything is nonsense. The I

1646
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,480
went along with the ancestral realm because you freaking morons thought it was real and

1647
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:48,760
it made you feel better. And then suddenly she speaks to to why can't I say his name.

1648
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:59,200
I want to say norad. What is his name. Neymar. Jesus. Like my brain just came up with an

1649
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:08,000
and I was like norad speaks with him learns his heritage gets the you know gets the special

1650
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:14,520
threads that has the you know vibranium laced whatever plants that were there goes to the

1651
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:20,040
ancestral realm not believing. That's what that's what was crazy is she was like I don't

1652
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,640
believe this but I'm going to I know what I got to do so I'm going to just do it and

1653
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:31,280
then and then sees Killmonger. God dang it sucks to be you lady. You were wrong and you

1654
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:41,920
didn't get to see you thought you were going to see. Yeah. I I have a hard time picturing

1655
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:51,120
her got moving forward as the Black Panther because I I don't unless it's just like something

1656
01:56:51,120 --> 01:57:00,200
that she's it didn't feel like she fully embraced the role that she took it on for a purpose

1657
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:06,960
and then now that that purpose has been handled she's going to like pass it along. I hope

1658
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:11,320
not. I hope it's a thing where like maybe she does like in the next movie or whatever

1659
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:17,760
it is that's going to involve her that is like worst case scenario it's like her struggle

1660
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:23,360
to be like I am the Black Panther now but I don't I don't want this to be a thing where

1661
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:28,440
they're like this was she was just the placeholder for the next person that is just going to

1662
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:33,280
do the thing like give her some time. It's not like it's unprecedented as far as comics

1663
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:38,560
go unless they do some kind of huge time jump where T'Challa is now 25 and he's like I'm

1664
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:48,800
ready then no like just let her give her some strife and let her do the thing for a while.

1665
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:57,880
Yeah I agree. I'm wondering too like. You're not wrong by the way with everything you said

1666
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:03,760
about her. I'm just saying I hope it doesn't turn out with the with the theory that you

1667
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:10,080
have. I know I will kind of be bummed out because Shuri has some like really good Black

1668
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:19,040
Panther stories that I think should be told. It's just the way that they set up Shuri in

1669
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:29,600
this does not she does not seem like that person to like maintain that role and I don't

1670
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:38,960
know like it could be I don't know. I think M'Baku has a like has a respect for Wakanda

1671
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:47,480
and like the Black Panther and the the Panther goddess Bast and everything. So I think he

1672
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:54,720
would keep the Black Panther role going. But I mean who knows we might see M'Baku take

1673
01:58:54,720 --> 01:59:00,440
up the Black Panther mantle or I mean I know he's in the comics he's supposed to be like

1674
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:05,920
the the the white ape or something like that. Well that's the other thing that I came across

1675
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:12,160
too is like they even though they are all from Wakanda like he believes in a different

1676
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:22,000
god than T'Challa and his family did which again fun fact I found out by going perusing

1677
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:32,120
the internet is in Thor Love and Thunder you actually see the Black Panther god and Namor's

1678
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:37,560
god I don't remember their name but you see them when they go to when Thor and the gang

1679
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:42,640
go to see Zeus like when they're sitting down waiting like if you see in front of them like

1680
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:49,880
you see those two gods there. It's like what's up? Just hanging out. Yeah just wanted to

1681
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:59,400
correct myself real quick M'Baku in the comics is known as man ape. Yes. Okay. But yeah I

1682
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:06,400
know that there's a lot of like Wakandan tribes that believe in in different like entities

1683
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:14,760
like I know T'Challa like T'Challa's is like the Black Panther M'Baku's is the the white

1684
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:20,200
gorilla and then I know that there's another one like the white tiger because there is

1685
02:00:20,200 --> 02:00:28,280
a Wakandan like white tiger or white wolf or something like that. Well no wasn't that

1686
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:33,280
Winter Soldier and didn't they rename him the white wolf or something like that? Or

1687
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:40,280
what was his when they were healing him and gave him his vibranium arms. Yeah so they

1688
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:46,840
did yeah they started calling him the the white wolf but in the comics there is a character

1689
02:00:46,840 --> 02:01:00,160
known that goes by the white wolf. What I'm saying is uh M'Baku he wasn't gonna say he

1690
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:05,160
I mean he's clearly I think that was one of the cool things when they that part you were

1691
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:12,560
talking about where he starts talking about the fish man differently and he's like oh

1692
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:17,280
they see him as the serpent god like clearly they're trying to establish that he is wise

1693
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:23,320
and he will be able to lead them because he's not just going to run in blind and with rage

1694
02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:32,440
and I could see him being more of like a what's the word not a mentor but like a what's it

1695
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:37,240
called what would you call like Commissioner Gordon to Batman you know what I mean like

1696
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:42,600
uh something like that role I can't think of what the the name of it is but like something

1697
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:48,480
like that like have Shuri come and be like yeah man I was just ripping fools in half

1698
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:56,280
and he's like yeah you can't be doing that like this is not what it's all about. Like

1699
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:01,280
you're out there you're out there still with rage in your heart and you need to uh you

1700
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:06,280
need to center yourself like I could see him being that like being the being that kind

1701
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:12,840
of leader and then being that kind of like uh the word I'm trying to think of and cannot

1702
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:17,840
uh for her like going forward.

1703
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:36,240
I freaking love conversations like this dude. Alright um yeah getting into acting uh just

1704
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:44,520
talking about the main people we got Letitia Wright who played Shuri uh Lupita Nyong'o

1705
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:55,720
who played Nakia, Danal Gurira who played Akoya, Winston Duke who plays M'Baku, Angela

1706
02:02:55,720 --> 02:03:05,460
Bassett who plays Queen Ramonda, Tana Cuerta who plays Namor, Martin Freeman who played

1707
02:03:05,460 --> 02:03:19,800
Everett Ross, Dominique Thorne who plays Riri and I think that covers the main people yeah

1708
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:22,840
I'll say that covers the main people.

1709
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:26,160
Yes.

1710
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:30,560
So I say like top three.

1711
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:43,280
This is a hard one. Yeah I already have mine so my number one is going to Angela Bassett

1712
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:57,040
played Queen Ramonda because she is amazing. She blew my freaking mind. Like she was so

1713
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:03,920
intimidating talking to the United Nations and like bringing the people in and being

1714
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:12,280
like consider them being brought back here alive um mercy. Like it won't happen again

1715
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:23,120
and I'm like oh damn and then like how she went into the like the firing of Akoya. I

1716
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:27,320
like I said I was totally on Akoya's side like hey not her fault she got her ass whooped

1717
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:36,000
by some freaking fish dude and then the way that she was able to just like change my mind

1718
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:44,680
yeah that was wild yeah and like you could she must have been going through some shit

1719
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:52,880
that day because you could feel how like she could you could tell that she was like feeling

1720
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:58,320
her performance and she just cranked it up to 11.

1721
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:04,480
When you saw like to me it was when you saw the spit flying out of her mouth of like the

1722
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:13,880
literal spitting mad it was like uh all right well I'm gonna take a step back and uh pretend

1723
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:19,160
like hopefully no one saw me and leave.

1724
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:27,240
Yeah exactly so that's why she's getting my number one. My number two probably an unpopular

1725
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:36,640
opinion I'm given to Tanaka Kureta who played Namor. I loved his performance as Namor and

1726
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:44,880
like I said just freaking gushed over him earlier talking about how like impactful his

1727
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:56,920
performance was and how interesting he's made Namor and I hope that Marvel like adopts this

1728
02:05:56,920 --> 02:05:59,720
this rendition of him for like future comics.

1729
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:08,920
Yeah let's see why not. Oh you mean like how they had uh what's his face uh who were you

1730
02:06:08,920 --> 02:06:09,920
gonna say?

1731
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:16,000
I was gonna say like Aquaman like they kind of have started modeling Aquaman and giving

1732
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:20,360
him kind of the Jason Momoa personality.

1733
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:29,560
But yeah so definitely so giving him my number two and then my number three is going to Letitia

1734
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:39,960
Wright. I think she did an incredible job as Shuri and she she gave a really powerful

1735
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:47,880
performance as well. Like the standout moment for me was at the funeral when she kind of

1736
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:59,520
like went back to give T'Challa like a last hug. That wrecked me.

1737
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:04,640
Yeah dude that was ugh.

1738
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:13,080
So yeah that's my top three. What about you guys?

1739
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:22,840
For me number three I would give to Winston Duke. Um Baku I know he wasn't in it probably

1740
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:27,160
as much as he was in the first one. I feel he was in the first one a little more. But

1741
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:33,000
I still loved his performance. He's amazing in this character as this character and I

1742
02:07:33,000 --> 02:07:36,000
just loved watching him on screen.

1743
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:42,240
Number two I would definitely give to Angela Bassett. She was amazing as Ramonda. She had

1744
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:46,680
the most emotional scenes throughout this whole movie and she delivered every single

1745
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:50,400
one of them. They were absolutely amazing.

1746
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:59,120
And then number two I would give to Letitia Wright as Shuri. I loved her in the first

1747
02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:03,440
one. I loved her even more in this one. Like yeah she was definitely more of a jokester

1748
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:08,680
in the first one. But the role that she had to step into this one with being a lot more

1749
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:20,520
dramatic, more what's the word. I don't know just the way that she gave off the emotion

1750
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:27,640
of losing her brother and then also losing her mother. Just amazing job. I absolutely

1751
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:33,960
loved her in this movie. So that's my top three.

1752
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:43,840
I think mine kind of mirrors yours again Rose. Other than I would like Mbaku or Winston

1753
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:49,640
Duke I only put him I've got to have my top four because he just wasn't in it as much

1754
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:55,880
but he did have my favorite Beth that I were talking about. My favorite moment with him

1755
02:08:55,880 --> 02:09:01,040
was when they were fighting on the bridge and he got punched right in the chest and

1756
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:12,080
then it just like sunk in his armor and he flies across and he's just like uh. Like that

1757
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:20,800
was choice. That was amazing. But I would put yeah I would put our board name or Tanook

1758
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:30,400
however you say his name. Sorry I'm reading with DJ today. Yeah he just like I don't know.

1759
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:33,440
I don't know if I can say anything other than what you guys have already said about these

1760
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:40,920
people but yeah it's hard this is I don't know even now this is a hard top three to

1761
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:50,960
give because catch me tomorrow and I might have a different top three. That's fair. What

1762
02:09:50,960 --> 02:10:01,440
are you guys thinking for acting score? Oh yes. I'm a 95 for acting it's that freaking

1763
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:12,600
good. Yeah I'll go with that. Same here 95 is across the board. Alright next up we got

1764
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:20,520
character development which obviously we need to follow Shuri in her story. So what did

1765
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:28,960
you guys think of that? I absolutely loved it. Like how I point out like at the beginning

1766
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:36,440
I was not expecting them to actually showcase the process of T'Challa dying. I thought it

1767
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,360
was just going to already be dead and they would you know like maybe the first part would

1768
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:47,000
be at his funeral or we do a time jump to like a year after he's passed away but I was

1769
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:52,360
not expecting the opening to be literally Shuri doing everything that she can to save

1770
02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:59,440
her brother's life. That was fantastic. That was an amazing opening and just seeing her

1771
02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:06,280
development throughout the whole movie of you know her disagreeing that the Black Panther

1772
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:16,360
you know needs to be something just I don't really know how to sum up into words but she

1773
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:22,080
goes through such an emotional character development through this movie with you know the loss

1774
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:30,280
of her brother at the beginning, her mother in the middle and just having to fight for

1775
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:38,360
you know what she wants because I love the line that when her and Umbaku are having after

1776
02:11:38,360 --> 02:11:42,560
you know they accept her as the new Black Panther and she's like hey can I have a word

1777
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:48,960
with Umbaku alone and how he points out you know like your mother wouldn't want you to

1778
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:54,840
have done this, she wouldn't want any of this for you and she's like okay yeah but my mother's

1779
02:11:54,840 --> 02:12:00,440
dead so all of her hopes and dreams that she had for me they died with her. Now everything

1780
02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:07,260
that I want that's what's going to happen and I freaking loved that. That was so ballsy

1781
02:12:07,260 --> 02:12:17,120
of her to say and it was so impactful. So yeah amazing amazing character arc for sure

1782
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:24,960
in this movie. I absolutely loved it. Yeah it was just it was the arc was it was wide

1783
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:32,440
and it really did span the entire movie like even though they did do they started you know

1784
02:12:32,440 --> 02:12:37,640
they started the way that they did and then did the year time jump like it didn't feel

1785
02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:44,200
like they cheated you know what I mean they weren't like oh man she did so much work remember

1786
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:49,120
all the yoga that she did and all the retreat she went on to get over her brother's death

1787
02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:53,520
all she's got to do is burn this thing now and everything's gonna be fine. No like it

1788
02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:59,160
seemed it felt even though we got to skip over a year and just got to see the like the

1789
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:05,840
last what week before that all went down again it still seemed like it spanned the entire

1790
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:12,400
movie and really did end with her being in a better place when she finally was able to

1791
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:20,080
put those ceremonial robes on the fire on the beach by herself and and try and move

1792
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:35,840
forward. Man Caleb's dropping hot hot deuces. By the way speaking of hot deuces can I just

1793
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:44,600
tell you something I in my in my 39 year old body have started taking Metamucil and can

1794
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:50,920
I just tell you something there is no better way to poop than when you have pooped with

1795
02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:58,840
Metamucil in your body it's a joy it has become a joy now so I'm just saying like if you're

1796
02:13:58,840 --> 02:14:06,820
like if you're ever like this is a chore this has been my my pitch to Metamucil to sponsor

1797
02:14:06,820 --> 02:14:16,320
the All Bros starting with this endorsement. I was gonna say they gotta do the untrained

1798
02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:22,960
eye first maybe at least give me and Caleb like what like three more years I mean like

1799
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:29,560
maybe 30 or should we shoot for 35. Listen it's never too soon to have a nice poop okay

1800
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:42,840
like. I mean he's not wrong. You know it's we can't all eat right all the time. Hi I'm

1801
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:53,560
right thank you. No it's weird I just I have never making fun of Caleb reminded me that

1802
02:14:53,560 --> 02:15:00,680
yeah I enjoy pooping now with Metamucil it's crazy. I'm gonna laugh my ass off it wasn't

1803
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:06,000
actually for pooping it was like he needed to go tend to iris or something. It's definitely

1804
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:13,600
not pooping but I hope he cuts the part out where I said that. Caleb is doodooing his

1805
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:19,800
brains out right now guys I can't I can't oh god oh yeah I have to get in my I have

1806
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:30,280
to get in my my episode Lee dressing down of brocker hey brocker. What's the matter with

1807
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:41,480
you Scott pilgrims an amazing movie you jerk damn the hair is talking about you brocker

1808
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:45,480
yeah what are you gonna do about it. I haven't even I guess like because I really don't like

1809
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:52,000
look don't always look at like everyone's newest episodes of their podcast but have

1810
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:57,880
you seen if brocker is like still doing his autopsy of a horror movie. Well let's check

1811
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:04,720
right now let's see brocker are you still doing your your little program about movies

1812
02:16:04,720 --> 02:16:16,560
autopsy of a horror movie let's see see when the last one came out oh he's got 22 five

1813
02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:25,240
star reviews on Spotify attaboy his last episode you'll enjoy came out on October 30th and

1814
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:32,960
it was Halloween. Oh okay. 1978 Halloween. I'm proud of you brocker. You son of a bitch

1815
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:40,240
if you if you talk any shit on it though he will look at his bad opinions about great

1816
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:44,800
movies you think he's gonna have good things to say about this like Halloween what was

1817
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:50,640
it made in the 70s or something why did this guy get a real mask why is it made of rubber

1818
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:54,400
I mean hey you can talk he can talk all the shit he wants on Halloween ends I'm totally

1819
02:16:54,400 --> 02:17:00,560
okay with that but him talking shit on Halloween no okay so the question for so long he has

1820
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:09,680
a beard now sorry I tried but then my my stomach made a noise that I feel might have been picked

1821
02:17:09,680 --> 02:17:16,560
up so it was pooping DJ's so good I knew it I don't know how I knew but I knew it you

1822
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:24,360
know what no no no no no no no no no no this is for Caleb for later you have to go back

1823
02:17:24,360 --> 02:17:32,160
and listen to what we talked about great dude you were in for a treat that's all I'm gonna

1824
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:47,720
say oh man so character development yeah well from what I remember you guys saying oh you

1825
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:56,480
have no idea what you're in for when you go back to edit this I say is that is probably

1826
02:17:56,480 --> 02:18:01,760
my favorite that is like probably my favorite segment of stuff that DJ has ever said on

1827
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:12,040
the podcast I don't know what it was but my stomach made a noise I was picked up by my

1828
02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:20,240
mic and I was like oh shit can't do that I don't know what comes out of the body speaks

1829
02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:29,680
when the body speaks you gotta listen anyway well I thought of character development I

1830
02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:36,760
don't know if you guys talked about that at all I was no away maybe maybe like five seconds

1831
02:18:36,760 --> 02:18:44,520
after you left but then yeah I just went into something totally different okay like I said

1832
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:53,520
this is her shuri story felt very reminiscent of T'Challa's from Civil War just a little

1833
02:18:53,520 --> 02:19:01,120
bit more drawn out and intense and like a little bit more emotional as well because

1834
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:09,440
she he was also dealing with or she she was also dealing with the death of T'Challa on

1835
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:20,240
top of the death of her mother and so just kind of also being like the last of her family

1836
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:31,040
and the way that she was able to kind of release some of that anger and hate out and still

1837
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:41,520
be able to not really forgive but do what was best for the people of Wakanda and not

1838
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:48,280
necessarily what would have made her feel better just kind of shows that she's not quite

1839
02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:58,000
as impulsive of as she was near the beginning of this this movie so I felt she had a fairly

1840
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:08,960
decent arc but I think at the end of the day it's just it was well done and I say it's

1841
02:20:08,960 --> 02:20:19,680
like maybe a little bit above average but I'm sitting somewhere around like 86 what about

1842
02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:27,960
you guys yeah I think I still would have given it I hear what you're saying I cannot disagree

1843
02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:36,640
with one word that you just said but I think that in the way that like you see like how

1844
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:46,520
people were mad about a new hope held up to the force awakens how they basically just

1845
02:20:46,520 --> 02:20:54,240
did the same movie again like I honestly I picked up on everything that you said while

1846
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:58,240
I was watching the movie other than the fact that it was like a mirror image of what happened

1847
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:06,440
kind of in Black Panther or I'm sorry in Civil War in Black Panther and I was like I don't

1848
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:13,920
know I think it did it better I think it did a retelling of that story for sure a better

1849
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:21,520
than other retellings have been done so I was I think I'd give it a 90 that's completely

1850
02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:30,040
fair like I definitely understand why you'd go that high yeah honestly I have nothing

1851
02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:35,360
else to say I agree with everything you guys said and I'm sorry Caleb I have to agree

1852
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:44,440
with DJ how much I do you so fair I'll be wrong about this I don't care you're not wrong

1853
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:58,320
no it's your bitch ass up point alright next up we got effects okay I want your guys's

1854
02:21:58,320 --> 02:22:04,480
opinion because I feel this is always something that people either love or hate about the

1855
02:22:04,480 --> 02:22:12,080
Black Panther costume did it look to CGI or did it look okay what'd you guys think like

1856
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:20,480
did it look at least better than it did and like how freaking killmonger and T'Challa's

1857
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:24,840
costumes looked in there you mean I'm sorry you mean they're crazy inflatable tube fight

1858
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:40,720
that they had exactly it was much better than that listen like my my no no I was gonna say

1859
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:45,040
like even like when like she had her mask pulled back like honestly I think that looked

1860
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:52,000
better than some other instances I've seen when the Black Panthers had their mask off

1861
02:22:52,000 --> 02:23:03,160
dude I will say this I am not a fan of the like the whole nanotech masks I don't disagree

1862
02:23:03,160 --> 02:23:12,680
with you but it leaves it open to do cooler stuff like her like when she got to do her

1863
02:23:12,680 --> 02:23:18,160
little freaking Mega Man thing whenever she was just like I'm gonna take my cuz that's

1864
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:24,680
that was that was a whole deal right it was like vibranium nanotech or whatever and yeah

1865
02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:30,700
I don't know like I thought I thought her suit looked cool I don't know if there was

1866
02:23:30,700 --> 02:23:38,800
any like practical ness to that suit in any way but it seemed like there was like I yeah

1867
02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:41,760
I was gonna say I don't know if it's like how the spider-man suit was where they just

1868
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:46,840
have dots everywhere and they're like we'll put it in a spider-man suit later but it didn't

1869
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,960
look like that like it looked there were moments where she was standing there where it looked

1870
02:23:50,960 --> 02:23:55,960
like she was really wearing it whether she was or not I don't know but my high bar for

1871
02:23:55,960 --> 02:24:00,880
any movie that has water in it and people are gonna be under it is how they look under

1872
02:24:00,880 --> 02:24:08,640
water and I give the effects a 10 because the underwater effects look is it out of 10

1873
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:13,820
or is it out of this one's out of 100 using costumes are out of 10 all right it seems

1874
02:24:13,820 --> 02:24:18,320
for some reason it seems crazy to give it a hundred but I'm gonna give it a hundred

1875
02:24:18,320 --> 02:24:26,680
because the water looked like it water can just look so bad when you're just underwater

1876
02:24:26,680 --> 02:24:31,560
and it just looks terrible like even if you don't even if you don't look terrible sometimes

1877
02:24:31,560 --> 02:24:37,880
just the filter of water like it just doesn't look right and I don't I don't recall any

1878
02:24:37,880 --> 02:24:43,160
times being like this doesn't this looks like people on a green screen and they just put

1879
02:24:43,160 --> 02:24:49,520
some like gels in front of the camera to make it look like they're underwater like it looks

1880
02:24:49,520 --> 02:24:54,160
I don't know it all looked really good for being underwater stuff when they clearly probably

1881
02:24:54,160 --> 02:25:03,200
weren't yeah I I think they did a really solid job with the underwater effects so like totally

1882
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:09,100
agree with you like if you those have to be done right otherwise it's you they look super

1883
02:25:09,100 --> 02:25:16,520
weird and I think if you've I know you said you haven't seen it but the the Aquaman movie

1884
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:23,880
there were definitely times where that was just not done well the only time that I feel

1885
02:25:23,880 --> 02:25:29,840
I can kind of excuse Aquaman just a little bit is because that movie takes so much it

1886
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:36,960
takes place underwater so much so I can kind of excuse it a little bit I can understand

1887
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:43,920
where it come from but like I feel that for what they had to accomplish they I feel that

1888
02:25:43,920 --> 02:25:55,980
they did the best that they could yeah I think what they did really well with with this movie

1889
02:25:55,980 --> 02:26:04,320
is having that they didn't quite do with Aquaman is having people's hair tied up and so it

1890
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:08,960
wasn't like flowing and everything I mean it's you still have like the little strands

1891
02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:13,900
here and there that would flow but for the most part everyone's hair was like all done

1892
02:26:13,900 --> 02:26:18,920
up or had like some sort of headdress to keep it out of their face or just something along

1893
02:26:18,920 --> 02:26:37,080
those lines so all of that looked great I think I feel like Riri's suit needed a little

1894
02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:44,600
bit more like texturing to it it felt too smooth and just kind of felt really out of

1895
02:26:44,600 --> 02:26:55,800
place as soon as you said something was off I was I immediately thought too smooth 99

1896
02:26:55,800 --> 02:27:00,720
did you guys feel it was like because I mean I don't really know how the the suit looks

1897
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:07,240
in the comics but do you feel like it's too bulky yeah because I'm getting like a war

1898
02:27:07,240 --> 02:27:13,260
machine vibe when I feel I really should be getting an Iron Man vibe well does she kind

1899
02:27:13,260 --> 02:27:18,240
of look like isn't that the whole thing is like because what I've seen of her in the

1900
02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:22,480
comic is like you know yes the where the arc reactor would be it looks more like a heart

1901
02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:26,880
but isn't like her silhouette at least like with the shoulders supposed to almost kind

1902
02:27:26,880 --> 02:27:36,560
of look like a heart too ish I'm looking at the like I just googled her like iron heart

1903
02:27:36,560 --> 02:27:45,040
and from what I can tell it's not completely out of the realm of possibility for her to

1904
02:27:45,040 --> 02:27:52,520
be that bulky you got to think too it's also technically her mark one that okay that's

1905
02:27:52,520 --> 02:28:00,080
a good tech or technically mark two if you want to count the scrubber like original exoskeleton

1906
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:12,200
yeah so the other versions of this suit they she does kind of have shoulders on her okay

1907
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:19,320
but I mean other than that it is like a very like typically very slimming fit she doesn't

1908
02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:24,120
quite have an arc reactor which is something I'm starting to notice like she cut she has

1909
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:31,480
one but it's like her power source is more like upper chest yes interesting which is

1910
02:28:31,480 --> 02:28:36,960
what I kind of really like it's just like kind of where an arc react we would think

1911
02:28:36,960 --> 02:28:41,640
of an arc reactor to be but that's I don't think that's I mean I have no basis on what

1912
02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:45,680
I'm about to say but I don't think that's what it is right like it's not supposed to

1913
02:28:45,680 --> 02:28:52,920
be an arc reactor right no it's just the power source for her suit so it's like technically

1914
02:28:52,920 --> 02:29:01,840
the arc reactor but not but she didn't have like an arc reactor like Tony Stark did but

1915
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:13,360
yeah so it's even like looking at the pictures it just didn't quite feel like it fit in super

1916
02:29:13,360 --> 02:29:20,680
well with the rest of the environment so I think I think some even after even after she

1917
02:29:20,680 --> 02:29:26,240
was getting like beat up by some Atlanteans like I feel like we needed to see some battle

1918
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:33,760
damage on the suit but it was like almost completely untouched again I feel like that

1919
02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:39,640
is like that goes into the like we're just gonna sprint through her being in this movie

1920
02:29:39,640 --> 02:29:46,280
like we're we're going to touch the base of Ironheart was in this movie she is not she's

1921
02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:50,840
gonna be a part of it in the sense that like she'll be the reason why things kick off but

1922
02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:58,080
she's not necessarily gonna have a whole lot to do like if she was not there like I guarantee

1923
02:29:58,080 --> 02:30:03,520
they would have been able to hotwire a car and drive away like they didn't need her her

1924
02:30:03,520 --> 02:30:10,320
dad's old car old Chevy the beam of power like all right now you're giving a sex position

1925
02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:21,000
what are you talking about get the car let's go the most useless scene was when she was

1926
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:28,640
building that that Ironheart suit you're telling me that the janky ass little heart that you

1927
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:40,000
cut out of sheet metal is somehow incorporated in the suit you just built bullshit well that's

1928
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:44,960
what I love about when they incorporate real things into fantasy things because it's guys

1929
02:30:44,960 --> 02:30:49,720
like you and I that will see because I've worked with enough things in my life to be

1930
02:30:49,720 --> 02:30:56,040
like no you're not going to just use regular human tools and be done with this in an hour

1931
02:30:56,040 --> 02:31:05,820
it's just not never gonna happen but it's suspending your disbelief okay no like there

1932
02:31:05,820 --> 02:31:14,120
are ways that they could have done that to make me like suspend my disbelief like I I

1933
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:20,920
would have preferred had she done like just been sitting there like modeling it and then

1934
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:27,560
done like the whole 3d printer of it like being like but that's like one of those unfortunately

1935
02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:34,080
I feel like one of those like trailer moments because like every that whole section you're

1936
02:31:34,080 --> 02:31:39,440
talking about was all up in the trailer like we needed we needed the heart to fall in the

1937
02:31:39,440 --> 02:31:45,280
trailer so people would go that hearts made of iron we needed the hammer to hit to be

1938
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:53,440
like oh she hit the iron just like Tony did way back in that cave like it like again it

1939
02:31:53,440 --> 02:31:59,120
still feels like there are some things that are done that they do because they think we're

1940
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:06,160
all too stupid to be able to just google just google like who is this person like nope do

1941
02:32:06,160 --> 02:32:18,800
you see this heart made of iron do you do you yeah we got it it's iron heart cool I

1942
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:28,200
still don't know who she is really new stark yeah but effects wise I'm not like I'm kind

1943
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:36,960
of around like the typical like Marvel range that I usually am like I'm sitting like 88

1944
02:32:36,960 --> 02:32:44,920
listen to me right now what did you did you guys do multiverse of madness yes what did

1945
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:51,420
you give you Caleb what did you give multiverse madness if you don't give this at least one

1946
02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:58,760
point higher than that I quit this show because just we're all clear that eyeball at the end

1947
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:06,520
of multiverse of madness should have gotten someone fired he's got a point hold up I'm

1948
02:33:06,520 --> 02:33:15,800
I know for a fact we were not nice to that movie okay good okay I do not have the scores

1949
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:26,240
that very can be hold up hold up hold up hold up okay never mind we do have the scores so

1950
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:36,520
just need to find them dr. strange the most person madness I that's what I thought that's

1951
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:49,240
what I thought on reflection why go ahead tell the people tell the people what you gave

1952
02:33:49,240 --> 02:33:59,920
it I gave it in 97 and 97 no shit really so you know what you gave it a 95 don't even

1953
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:08,680
I did why why would I give it that high so you guys know what you have to do now you

1954
02:34:08,680 --> 02:34:21,800
know DJ's right yeah I mean when you're right you're right 96 yep Caleb I need to hear you

1955
02:34:21,800 --> 02:34:34,020
say it I will be going to a 97 is the word you're looking for step no I can't in good

1956
02:34:34,020 --> 02:34:42,760
conscious do that I'll go 95 you have to give it at least equal to the multiverse of an

1957
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:55,640
eyeball okay what no I you know I'm going to defend this a little bit I'm sticking with

1958
02:34:55,640 --> 02:35:03,560
my 88 because I will not be bullied into giving it a higher score the reason that I gave multi

1959
02:35:03,560 --> 02:35:12,040
some madness the score that it did yes the eyeball was atrocious and we definitely ripped

1960
02:35:12,040 --> 02:35:17,920
that apart I remember specifically ripping that apart the reason that I gave it in 97

1961
02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:25,760
was for everything else that they did oh you mean like silly string read like that despite

1962
02:35:25,760 --> 02:35:34,080
how you feel about how you like silly string read still look good yeah I hated that scene

1963
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:42,680
too yeah we didn't like how he died it just it looked realistic like it's a drive to your

1964
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:55,040
respective homes and fight you both all I'm saying is is that this movie deserves at least

1965
02:35:55,040 --> 02:36:05,120
equal to the multiverse of madness I don't know I don't know if it does though doesn't

1966
02:36:05,120 --> 02:36:15,520
it what part of it doesn't name one part that's half as janky as the one eyeball that was

1967
02:36:15,520 --> 02:36:23,800
drawn on by a child to a grown man's head I think the whales kind of look janky you

1968
02:36:23,800 --> 02:36:30,480
just were like dude the whales bringing the water grenades was awesome yeah that was because

1969
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:40,920
of the water grenades not the whales how dare you how the mighty have fun you hear this

1970
02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:48,680
broker do you hear what you've done no but I'm like I'm taking into consideration like

1971
02:36:48,680 --> 02:36:54,960
all of like the multiversal travel that they did in multiverse of madness all of that find

1972
02:36:54,960 --> 02:37:16,240
98 but that's as low as I go 98 that's it all right moving on over to music what did

1973
02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:25,600
you guys think of this soundtrack I thought I thought was an amazing soundtrack I feel

1974
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:34,720
the first one's movie might have been a little more impactful but I think that's just because

1975
02:37:34,720 --> 02:37:39,200
this one is definitely focused more on like the score aspect it didn't like have like

1976
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:45,720
a lot of like upbeat you know like oh let's throw in some like not hip-hop songs but you

1977
02:37:45,720 --> 02:37:51,240
know like actual songs with words in them this one really just tried to focus mostly

1978
02:37:51,240 --> 02:38:01,160
on just its original soundtrack the the mood that it set with the whole movie honestly

1979
02:38:01,160 --> 02:38:08,480
the only song that I actually remember in this was the Rihanna song at the ending and

1980
02:38:08,480 --> 02:38:20,880
that was really good too so awesome great soundtrack it did what it needed to do so

1981
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:29,520
I'm at a nine for soundtrack I would say the same thing you said Caleb about the effects

1982
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:35,240
like it's par for the course for MCU stuff like this that is the one thing about the

1983
02:38:35,240 --> 02:38:42,480
MCU is they have they have music that is like iconically in the background like if you hear

1984
02:38:42,480 --> 02:38:49,480
it you're like oh yeah I guess that is that but like while you're watching it unless it's

1985
02:38:49,480 --> 02:38:55,920
like the Avengers theme I feel like it's not really that noticeable I was actually gonna

1986
02:38:55,920 --> 02:39:01,120
say an 8.5 I don't know if you guys do point fives but I'll just give it an 8 if that's

1987
02:39:01,120 --> 02:39:07,600
the case and I'm only even giving it that high because again when she showed up as the

1988
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:15,360
Black Panther and they made that noise or whatever that happened like that was so good

1989
02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:22,160
like that was so good that I thought about giving it a nine but it's I think an eight

1990
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:28,200
is fair and because yeah I mean that that was so good it made me forget that I didn't

1991
02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:33,120
even really hear the music before then I was just like whoa we're watching a movie and

1992
02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:37,520
this lady could do anything right now that's what that made me feel in that moment is like

1993
02:39:37,520 --> 02:39:42,240
is she gonna go like crazy right now and like literally rip some people in half or what

1994
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:45,600
is gonna happen because this doesn't sound this definitely isn't like good guy music

1995
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:51,840
this is what happens when someone's like I'm gonna save a cat out of a tree like some bad

1996
02:39:51,840 --> 02:39:59,720
things are about to happen I think yeah I'm on the same page as you DJ I'm sitting at

1997
02:39:59,720 --> 02:40:08,400
an eight for the music it was like I know it was good it definitely it definitely did

1998
02:40:08,400 --> 02:40:18,400
what it was supposed to like it got it like it paired well with whatever scene they they

1999
02:40:18,400 --> 02:40:26,080
had on screen and like yeah the the freaking music for sure he once she was all black panther

2000
02:40:26,080 --> 02:40:36,240
eyes like was off the hook yeah I'm trying to if I'm not mistaken you kind of have like

2001
02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:45,320
inception like yeah like little like ring in vibes yeah it was like some it wasn't it

2002
02:40:45,320 --> 02:40:54,280
wasn't quite the like you know angel trumpet sound of like what is it the seven seven

2003
02:40:54,280 --> 02:41:00,160
trumpets of the apocalypse or whatever but it was something adjacent to like it was just

2004
02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:07,640
you knew there was bad things about to go down yeah so I really dug that so yeah I'm

2005
02:41:07,640 --> 02:41:20,000
sticking at an eight to like just barely not a nine but yeah anyway moving on over to costumes

2006
02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:27,320
like most MCU movies the costumes were pretty off the hook yeah what was it what was the

2007
02:41:27,320 --> 02:41:34,480
what did they end up calling her whenever they gave was it a koi that they gave the

2008
02:41:34,480 --> 02:41:41,040
it was like guardian something oh the midnight angel I don't care listen to me I you guys

2009
02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:45,560
are like scoffing at it I actually thought that looked really cool like that to me seemed

2010
02:41:45,560 --> 02:41:50,840
like I really liked it that's it looked like something that because I actually looked that

2011
02:41:50,840 --> 02:41:56,760
up because I didn't know if that was an actual thing and like it is it seems to be very comic

2012
02:41:56,760 --> 02:42:04,240
accurate and like it I could see why you would glance at it and be like this is what is this

2013
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:09,800
but I don't know I thought it looked really cool I liked it a lot I want to look and see

2014
02:42:09,800 --> 02:42:17,440
how accurate it was because what did you say it was called the guardian something midnight

2015
02:42:17,440 --> 02:42:34,200
angel midnight angel okay the suits no the suits like how they look in the comic I don't

2016
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:45,960
know are questionable like the design is is questionable okay but how they pulled it off

2017
02:42:45,960 --> 02:42:52,480
in the movie I don't know if they pulled it off that well like they got the the overall

2018
02:42:52,480 --> 02:42:59,000
vibe like I think the suit portion is is awesome it's the the mask is just not doing it for

2019
02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:03,160
me I know you don't like that mask I knew I knew you were gonna say that but what I

2020
02:43:03,160 --> 02:43:09,720
would say about that mask I think the reason why it almost seems to not fit is like that

2021
02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:16,440
that armor seems like it would have been did you guys ever see the movie stargate no well

2022
02:43:16,440 --> 02:43:23,640
this looks like it would be more like Egyptian armor that like if you had seen Stargate you

2023
02:43:23,640 --> 02:43:28,320
would be like oh yeah I could see I could see that there was a background character

2024
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:36,280
in Stargate wearing this armor like it just looks more Egyptian than it does Wakandan

2025
02:43:36,280 --> 02:43:51,200
I would say okay dude you know what this suit reminds me of this is what I imagine Abe Sapien

2026
02:43:51,200 --> 02:43:58,760
would look like if he got a predator suit dude that's exactly wow that is the most correct

2027
02:43:58,760 --> 02:44:10,600
thing anyone has ever said wow wow I'm looking at it right now that's bananas wait are you

2028
02:44:10,600 --> 02:44:19,000
seeing this too Rose look at that look at that face Abe Sapien as a predator get the

2029
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:29,920
hell out of here who Abe Sapien's from Hellboy oh okay that is so nuts all right well there

2030
02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:36,560
you did you figured it out that's why it should have been Abe's armor in Hellboy 3 sorry I

2031
02:44:36,560 --> 02:44:47,160
messed up yeah a wardrobe you get a two I know I know like despite despite my my my

2032
02:44:47,160 --> 02:44:55,320
feelings towards those suits I still think that they like the the suit itself is is awesome

2033
02:44:55,320 --> 02:45:03,360
I think it looks cool issue lies in the mask I think I get you but I think it still looks

2034
02:45:03,360 --> 02:45:10,520
menacing in a way that if that thing was chasing you at full speed you wouldn't be like you

2035
02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:15,240
look decent except for your face like I don't know if I'm afraid of you because your face

2036
02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:23,400
looks weird you would be screaming for mercy I think it's it's the predator hair like for

2037
02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:32,980
like why would shuri build a suit with hair like that for the Dora Milaje with when they're

2038
02:45:32,980 --> 02:45:39,720
all bald women killed that's a great point and I don't like that you made it listen I

2039
02:45:39,720 --> 02:45:48,360
like it so can you stop poking holes okay that's okay out of everything though though

2040
02:45:48,360 --> 02:45:56,040
that was my only issue costume wise I felt sure he's black panther suit was awesome fit

2041
02:45:56,040 --> 02:46:05,200
her very well kind of had it like a mixture of like just a classic sleek black panther

2042
02:46:05,200 --> 02:46:12,680
like T'Challa's suit had a little bit of that flair from Killmonger and then just had the

2043
02:46:12,680 --> 02:46:19,280
little touches that made it shuri well yeah I had the the her helmet had the same markings

2044
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:30,760
that she had on her face like just her suit was incredible and then I I like how it was

2045
02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:37,160
like the middle point in between T'Challa and Killmonger like that was yeah but still

2046
02:46:37,160 --> 02:46:50,040
felt very much like her own thing and then I cannot get enough of freaking Namor's suit

2047
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:59,440
like they made Namor look cool and I did not know that that was possible to do like have

2048
02:46:59,440 --> 02:47:07,720
you seen what classic Namor looks like no he looks he looks like a freaking he looks

2049
02:47:07,720 --> 02:47:20,600
like a Spock in a green speedo yeah like that if you can think of a better description than

2050
02:47:20,600 --> 02:47:26,040
Spock in a green speedo like I would love to hear it no dude I that that's as good as

2051
02:47:26,040 --> 02:47:34,520
it gets also I'm I would like to explain away the predatorness of what's going on with their

2052
02:47:34,520 --> 02:47:42,160
head as who needs capes you know but they still use capes nobody naturally has a cape

2053
02:47:42,160 --> 02:47:52,480
there you go I don't know I'm grasping at straws here yeah just a little bit I'm like

2054
02:47:52,480 --> 02:48:03,920
that felt like a desperate attempt but yeah like Namor like the way that they made him

2055
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:11,840
look like I love that he had like this big just royal necklace or how I don't even know

2056
02:48:11,840 --> 02:48:18,900
how you explain what that is like necklace just kind of seems to doesn't seem like enough

2057
02:48:18,900 --> 02:48:29,480
to explain what he had he had a chest showpiece there and then like how he like I love that

2058
02:48:29,480 --> 02:48:41,240
they change his might change him to like shorts like like more briefs than anything I don't

2059
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:47,680
know if they ever could have pulled off the speedo no because it was like where they had

2060
02:48:47,680 --> 02:48:56,440
those pants that he was wearing was like it didn't seem as weird as it very really was

2061
02:48:56,440 --> 02:49:01,520
like if you just saw someone that was like hi I come from underwater and I want to tell

2062
02:49:01,520 --> 02:49:05,120
you about something like hey man could you put on a shirt or something but I don't know

2063
02:49:05,120 --> 02:49:10,240
if it was just the way that they filmed him or what but it didn't seem like awkward whenever

2064
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:17,440
he was just standing there and basically just his boxers yeah that's true

2065
02:49:17,440 --> 02:49:25,280
yeah yeah have you seen the newest season of Rick and Morty

2066
02:49:25,280 --> 02:49:32,880
like the first maybe handful of episodes okay so you know the Mr. Nimbus episode I think

2067
02:49:32,880 --> 02:49:39,300
that's like the first episode of the wait is it are they on season five or six they're

2068
02:49:39,300 --> 02:49:49,920
on season five okay so this would have been like season four then oh yeah yeah yeah yeah

2069
02:49:49,920 --> 02:49:58,160
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes that's how I imagine like old school name or yeah

2070
02:49:58,160 --> 02:50:08,760
but that's like old school name or but yeah I think they made him like very intimidating

2071
02:50:08,760 --> 02:50:16,000
gave him like a really good look and like even with something as goofy as the the freaking

2072
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:22,840
little wings on his ankle like all of that looked freaking awesome and speaking of when

2073
02:50:22,840 --> 02:50:29,120
he when shuri freaking clawed the shit out of his ankle wings like I don't know why but

2074
02:50:29,120 --> 02:50:38,160
my like I had phantom ankle yeah my ankle started to hurt like I do I guess we'll find

2075
02:50:38,160 --> 02:50:44,480
out but are those supposed to grow back or is he just is he just flying with a limp now

2076
02:50:44,480 --> 02:50:51,960
um as far as I'm aware I think he has a healing factor it's just not like super fast so maybe

2077
02:50:51,960 --> 02:51:03,760
he's gonna like Winnie the Pooh his like tiny Deadpool hand his wings oh bother oh bother

2078
02:51:03,760 --> 02:51:13,440
but I I dug these these costumes so I don't know about you guys but I'm at a very solid

2079
02:51:13,440 --> 02:51:23,400
ten this even like that's even taken into consideration the midnight angel suit the

2080
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:32,480
suit like I said suit cool helmet now yeah I'll still give it a ten but I disagree yes

2081
02:51:32,480 --> 02:51:37,680
I feel also it really brings it to a ten for me is just I mean it was the same in the first

2082
02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:47,200
one but what the Wakandans wear just oh my gosh dude freaking incredible like they're

2083
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:54,960
costume people are working like beyond overtime seriously absolutely agree like I love how

2084
02:51:54,960 --> 02:52:03,240
detailed they're like the fabrics are right straight up all right last up we got our own

2085
02:52:03,240 --> 02:52:14,240
personal scores for it so many wants to go first sure okay so overall this is a great

2086
02:52:14,240 --> 02:52:22,760
sequel like we talked like I mentioned earlier and I believe DJ and Caleb agree with me

2087
02:52:22,760 --> 02:52:26,800
it's definitely going to be a lot harder to come back to this one compared to the first

2088
02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:31,600
one just because this one is a lot more emotional to watch it's a lot harder to get through

2089
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:37,360
and that's not a bad thing it's just because you're gonna lose your you're gonna be shedding

2090
02:52:37,360 --> 02:52:42,720
a lot of tears but like I said that's not a bad thing that's what makes it a great sequel

2091
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:50,260
because Ryan what's Ryan Coogler right yeah he understood the assignment of where he needed

2092
02:52:50,260 --> 02:52:56,000
to take the sequel after Tawuk Boseman's passing and he did it flawlessly and it was just so

2093
02:52:56,000 --> 02:53:04,520
perfect such a great sequel I loved every minute of it I hardly have anything bad to

2094
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:17,480
say about the sequel that such a great Marvel sequel so I'm gonna go a 93 I mean I'll go

2095
02:53:17,480 --> 02:53:25,560
next unless you want to go kill him no how about it yeah I I guess we're close to soulmates

2096
02:53:25,560 --> 02:53:35,280
because I was going to go with it 95 because it's just I don't know this is I don't know

2097
02:53:35,280 --> 02:53:40,760
this is a good movie that I it's funny because after we saw it I was like I need to go watch

2098
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:45,240
this movie again before I do this podcast because just a just because I want to see

2099
02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:51,680
the movie again but be like I don't know it's not they're not I feel bad saying this there

2100
02:53:51,680 --> 02:53:56,960
are not a lot of movies that I want to see twice anymore like for the most part I'm like

2101
02:53:56,960 --> 02:54:03,280
I've seen it I guy get the picture if I needed to know anything out of this then YouTube

2102
02:54:03,280 --> 02:54:09,960
or tik-tok will tell me I don't need to imbibe this whole thing into me again but for being

2103
02:54:09,960 --> 02:54:19,400
a two hour and 41 minute movie that was a lot sad like intensely sad and just sad sad

2104
02:54:19,400 --> 02:54:26,160
yeah I don't know I actually look forward to watching this movie again like I want to

2105
02:54:26,160 --> 02:54:30,080
watch Black Panther and then I want to watch this because even though I know that's not

2106
02:54:30,080 --> 02:54:35,600
the chronological order of how things happen like I just want to see what these movies

2107
02:54:35,600 --> 02:54:48,840
feel like watching them back to back so I don't know I yeah yeah 95 yeah yeah couldn't

2108
02:54:48,840 --> 02:54:57,880
agree more I'm personally sitting at a 94 I had an absolutely amazing time seeing this

2109
02:54:57,880 --> 02:55:10,280
movie I love when a movie can affect my emotions as heavily as this one did and I feel like

2110
02:55:10,280 --> 02:55:19,960
they they handled handled the passing of Chadwick Boseman expertly like they addressed it kind

2111
02:55:19,960 --> 02:55:28,240
of gave everyone a little bit of closure in a way like for those of us that that needed

2112
02:55:28,240 --> 02:55:38,620
it and shared a really good story of grief and the search for vengeance and and all this

2113
02:55:38,620 --> 02:55:46,080
while giving us a really amazing superhero film along with it so yeah like I said sitting

2114
02:55:46,080 --> 02:56:00,200
at a solid 94 and with that that concludes this week's breakdown so going through the

2115
02:56:00,200 --> 02:56:12,400
scores starting off with our story it is sitting at a very strong 91 writing is a little bit

2116
02:56:12,400 --> 02:56:22,840
higher sitting at a solid 94 acting a little higher than that at a 95 the character development

2117
02:56:22,840 --> 02:56:29,760
drop down and is unfortunately our lowest score which is sitting at an 88.6 the effects

2118
02:56:29,760 --> 02:56:39,840
jumps up again sitting at a 94 despite my best efforts the music is sitting at a very

2119
02:56:39,840 --> 02:56:48,840
strong 8 and that's mostly due to Rihanna's original song for this film costumes no surprise

2120
02:56:48,840 --> 02:57:01,880
10 this is actually like our longest streak of tens like black Adam then weird then this

2121
02:57:01,880 --> 02:57:12,520
yeah all tens and then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 94 so that brings

2122
02:57:12,520 --> 02:57:23,400
the all bros and untrained I letter grade for Black Panther Wakanda forever to N a

2123
02:57:23,400 --> 02:57:40,640
minus a yeah very very strong score there and I I'm just like kind of sneaking a peek

2124
02:57:40,640 --> 02:57:50,160
at where it's sitting like within the MCU ranking and I was I'm excited to talk about

2125
02:57:50,160 --> 02:57:58,520
that by getting into everything like all the like what else it's like compared to like

2126
02:57:58,520 --> 02:58:14,120
our other a minus movies it is so it is sitting at a 92.77% so out of all of our a minus movies

2127
02:58:14,120 --> 02:58:26,960
it's our fifth one okay so I think it's got a fairly decent home so right now it is below

2128
02:58:26,960 --> 02:58:41,000
in Kanto which is at a 92.81 it is below Infinity War which is at a 92.93 it is below room which

2129
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:52,560
is adding 93.06 and then it is below war of the planet of the apes which is adding 93.12

2130
02:58:52,560 --> 02:59:02,840
then go in the opposite direction it is sitting above last night in Soho which is adding 92.62

2131
02:59:02,840 --> 02:59:10,280
this is going to be controversial it is sitting above spider-man into the spider-verse whoa

2132
02:59:10,280 --> 02:59:21,120
I've never even seen that movie and that seems crazy so that one's sitting at a 92.59 then

2133
02:59:21,120 --> 02:59:33,200
it is above pulp fiction which is adding 92.43 as well as Joker the Bob's Burgers movie and

2134
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:40,960
Elv nope just Joker and the Bob's Burgers movies which are both sitting at a 92.37 I

2135
02:59:40,960 --> 02:59:48,160
don't think that's that yeah controversial especially the Joker always or the Joker movie

2136
02:59:48,160 --> 02:59:54,680
always holds a very strange place in my heart I uh that's a movie for other reasons I'll

2137
02:59:54,680 --> 03:00:02,200
probably never watch again yeah from same here I think the big controversial one would

2138
03:00:02,200 --> 03:00:08,280
was end of the spider-verse that's wild like who was that was that done just you two or

2139
03:00:08,280 --> 03:00:18,560
was Vic part of that um so that was one that we did prior to our current ranking system

2140
03:00:18,560 --> 03:00:24,560
and then we came back and did all of like the old ones so this that one was a compilation

2141
03:00:24,560 --> 03:00:32,360
of multiple people's scores hmm like me and Vic are gonna have to come back together and

2142
03:00:32,360 --> 03:00:53,080
uh fix that oh so you so go lower on the list I'm sorry Vic all right so in our MCU

2143
03:00:53,080 --> 03:01:06,760
rankings like you guys freaking ready for this no like shenanigans please oh shit hold

2144
03:01:06,760 --> 03:01:16,880
on why is it not sorry the filters being weird I also want to know once we find this out

2145
03:01:16,880 --> 03:01:32,160
what your current top two and bottom two movies are if it so pleases the court all right so

2146
03:01:32,160 --> 03:01:42,200
right now our top MCU movie is spider-man no way home followed very closely by Avengers

2147
03:01:42,200 --> 03:01:56,600
endgame and infinity war and Wakanda forever has taken our fourth place spot after that

2148
03:01:56,600 --> 03:02:09,040
it is the Eternals really yep yeah I mean I I like I was actually shocked at how much

2149
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:14,560
I like the eternal like just from what I heard about it I really expected for it to just

2150
03:02:14,560 --> 03:02:20,480
be a frickin I was just stoked that Kumail was in a Marvel movie so I was like I felt

2151
03:02:20,480 --> 03:02:30,240
destined to like it even if it was trash and it was good like I liked it yeah so Eternals

2152
03:02:30,240 --> 03:02:37,480
then Shang-Chi and the legend of the ten rings then Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness

2153
03:02:37,480 --> 03:02:50,600
then of then the first Avengers then Black Widow then far from home then the first Black

2154
03:02:50,600 --> 03:03:00,680
Panther and Captain Marvel Spider-Man homecoming Avengers age of Ultron Thor Ragnarok Thor

2155
03:03:00,680 --> 03:03:07,800
11 thunder and then at the very bottom Ant-Man and the Wasp wow can I just tell you did not

2156
03:03:07,800 --> 03:03:13,360
expect Ant-Man and the Wasp to be that far down did expect Thor 11 thunder to be that

2157
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:20,880
far down just saw it for the first time this past weekend yikes a Rooney like it wasn't

2158
03:03:20,880 --> 03:03:34,040
yeah it wasn't terrible but damn it's on like what yeah yeah dude so Ant-Man and the Wasp

2159
03:03:34,040 --> 03:03:42,260
I think it was originally sitting around like like with just our scores for it was sitting

2160
03:03:42,260 --> 03:03:51,320
somewhere around like a B maybe a B minus but yeah but but Ant-Man and the Wasp was

2161
03:03:51,320 --> 03:03:57,960
one that we did a like we had people like collaborate with us on that one and that was

2162
03:03:57,960 --> 03:04:03,440
one that like divided a lot of people so that's why the scores for that are so low really

2163
03:04:03,440 --> 03:04:11,840
were all the people Brucker was he just like bad decision bad decision funny enough like

2164
03:04:11,840 --> 03:04:18,880
some of the people like a couple of the people that did that were like have a podcast I listened

2165
03:04:18,880 --> 03:04:29,400
to like a Marvel versus DC and it was like yeah I thought their their opinions were very

2166
03:04:29,400 --> 03:04:39,000
harsh I mean yeah that's odd I didn't I don't know maybe I'm just blinded by what's his

2167
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:45,800
face Paul Rudd because I love that dude so I don't know maybe that movie is that bad

2168
03:04:45,800 --> 03:04:55,240
and I just can't see it because of Paul Vision yeah I am very excited to get all these other

2169
03:04:55,240 --> 03:05:06,580
MCU movies like ranked so we have like an official like list I think I think I know

2170
03:05:06,580 --> 03:05:11,440
the answer to this but are you guys going to incorporate any of the television programs

2171
03:05:11,440 --> 03:05:18,720
into that no I figured not but gotta ask you know because if we get a hot guy would be

2172
03:05:18,720 --> 03:05:23,080
at the top of the list I'm just gonna say listen a hot guy was great like hot guy was

2173
03:05:23,080 --> 03:05:28,720
great like it would be hard out of the shows right now to say which one would be number

2174
03:05:28,720 --> 03:05:35,080
one I know which one would be number last sadly I'll let you come to your own conclusions

2175
03:05:35,080 --> 03:05:41,480
on that surprisingly though I would there to me there's a fight between she Hulk and

2176
03:05:41,480 --> 03:05:47,580
Loki for number one out of the shows in my mind anyway Dave Rose absolutely disagrees

2177
03:05:47,580 --> 03:05:56,000
with you Rose did not like Loki really what was the what was the main thing you did not

2178
03:05:56,000 --> 03:06:00,360
like about Loki if you had to give if you had to say one thing that you're like if they

2179
03:06:00,360 --> 03:06:06,920
had just changed this I might be willing to reconsider I really did not like the character

2180
03:06:06,920 --> 03:06:14,480
Sylvie I would have preferred if it just focused on Tom Hiddleston's Loki I listen to me I

2181
03:06:14,480 --> 03:06:24,600
liked her but I actually don't disagree with that I did enjoy her character but I technically

2182
03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:39,040
she is Loki Rose okay okay okay okay okay okay if it didn't have her Loki then it'd

2183
03:06:39,040 --> 03:06:45,640
be a lot better if it was just OG Loki I'd be cool with that I can't argue with that

2184
03:06:45,640 --> 03:06:56,360
I can't argue with that yeah so anyway that's where this movie sits I'm surprised it got

2185
03:06:56,360 --> 03:07:04,040
it's our like new number four yeah I do like because our top three is are really are going

2186
03:07:04,040 --> 03:07:09,400
to be really hard to replace oh yeah what was number five now so what did it knock out

2187
03:07:09,400 --> 03:07:18,240
of number four sorry no you're good I mean turtles is number five now right yeah or no

2188
03:07:18,240 --> 03:07:36,320
oh wait what the shit hold on I messed something up oh my god I hit delete all I think we'd

2189
03:07:36,320 --> 03:07:45,520
have a heart attack right on screen yeah so the top five is no way home end game infinity

2190
03:07:45,520 --> 03:07:54,880
war Wakanda forever and Eternals okay so it didn't it did knock Eternals out again crazy

2191
03:07:54,880 --> 03:08:01,160
to me that Eternals got so high an Ant-Man and the Wasp got so low because I don't disagree

2192
03:08:01,160 --> 03:08:09,400
with the Eternals one is what I'm saying well like I tried I tried taking made sense yeah

2193
03:08:09,400 --> 03:08:16,840
I tried taking like I had to go based off of the score like our scores alone like our

2194
03:08:16,840 --> 03:08:24,360
far from home scores on here is not including the scores you and Vic gave like this is just

2195
03:08:24,360 --> 03:08:30,440
between like me and Rose yeah but Ant-Man and the Wasp was one that I didn't have a

2196
03:08:30,440 --> 03:08:37,920
record of what me and Rose gave it versus what the other people gave it so I'm just

2197
03:08:37,920 --> 03:08:45,320
that might be one that we have to re-explore too I'm so down yeah like all the other ones

2198
03:08:45,320 --> 03:08:51,560
like our ones that I'm like okay this was like definitively like what we gave it but

2199
03:08:51,560 --> 03:09:00,480
Ant-Man and the Wasp was just one that I could not find the scores for yeah because honestly

2200
03:09:00,480 --> 03:09:07,640
like it sucks because I like Chris Hemsworth like and I like Thor the character but man

2201
03:09:07,640 --> 03:09:16,320
those movies are not doing that character enough justice not even a little bit by the

2202
03:09:16,320 --> 03:09:22,320
way talk about compared to Wakanda forever what a terrible ending love and thunder they're

2203
03:09:22,320 --> 03:09:29,040
just like hey everybody we're love and I'm thunder and we're gonna rock your pants off

2204
03:09:29,040 --> 03:09:41,400
like no I would be genuinely shocked if Taika Waititi is invited back to the Thor 5 shocked

2205
03:09:41,400 --> 03:10:00,680
I see what you did there yeah no he farted up the place with that one yeah yeah all right

2206
03:10:00,680 --> 03:10:06,080
well I would say that concludes this week's episode DJ would you like to let everybody

2207
03:10:06,080 --> 03:10:11,360
know where they can find you yes I would you can find me behind your door in the show you

2208
03:10:11,360 --> 03:10:27,080
shadows don't close it or I'll jump out and get you I'm in your backseat broker no it

2209
03:10:27,080 --> 03:10:31,880
you're already listening to a podcast right now just go while you're listening to me right

2210
03:10:31,880 --> 03:10:39,160
now I'm giving you time go open your phone go to your search bar type in the untrained

2211
03:10:39,160 --> 03:10:46,200
I and then click subscribe and then you'll be done everything else we barely post on

2212
03:10:46,200 --> 03:10:53,880
Instagram and Twitter but I might like your post if you're cool so at untrained iPod if

2213
03:10:53,880 --> 03:10:59,120
you want to do that but the untrained I goes into our podcast dragging the table I do that

2214
03:10:59,120 --> 03:11:05,720
one too but you know don't listen to the first couple anyway that's it all I got I think

2215
03:11:05,720 --> 03:11:18,080
all right well if you like what you heard from us as well as you know DJ and I mean

2216
03:11:18,080 --> 03:11:23,160
I don't know if he's on all these platforms but if you want to hear more from us you can

2217
03:11:23,160 --> 03:11:29,680
find us on Apple podcast Google podcast stitcher I heart radio Spotify all that fun shit you

2218
03:11:29,680 --> 03:11:34,240
can also catch all of our episodes on YouTube is that if that is your preferred listening

2219
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:40,880
platform be sure to check out our social media where you can DM us with episode ideas answer

2220
03:11:40,880 --> 03:11:45,720
our question of the week I don't know why I brought that up because we don't do it really

2221
03:11:45,720 --> 03:11:52,720
anymore so yeah sorry if you could have in my know if you have two Thor Ragnarok's that

2222
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:57,680
leave the station at the same time but one Ragnarok is traveling 36 miles an hour and

2223
03:11:57,680 --> 03:12:02,560
the other love and thunder is traveling 76 miles an hour when will they intersect and

2224
03:12:02,560 --> 03:12:10,440
become one good movie instead of one good movie and one terrible terrible movie I know

2225
03:12:10,440 --> 03:12:15,720
it's where the dark world becomes the best Thor movie and that's when the heat death

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at the Albrose or you can email us at the Albrose channel at gmail.com if that is your

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our website you can find that at tiny URL dot com forward slash the Albrose next week

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we'll be breaking down the woman king assuming that's still in effect right Caleb yep okay

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cool so you can look forward to that but until next week this has been the Albrose podcast

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with special appearance by DJ from the untrained eye I'm Jonathan now Caleb and we will see

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you guys next week deuces you ass.

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you're one a During our anti- vacuum shoutout to Drexel.