What is up bros, I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the All Bros.
This week on the podcast, in 4K spotlight, we have one movie getting released and it's
kind of a... been a subject of some controversy.
Starting off my speech real strong.
Yeah.
You're making me proud, man.
You're making me proud.
Anyway, so after we discuss that release, then we will be getting straight into our
headliner this week, which will be our breakdown of Smile.
It was going to be the woman king.
Yeah.
It will happen eventually.
It absolutely will.
It is a fantastic movie and it's one that I want to break down.
It does come out on... so it does come out on Blu-ray December 13th.
So once it comes out on Blu-ray, expect a review to follow.
Again, maybe this might be something that goes on into the new year.
Because unfortunately, there's a lot of good Christmas movies coming out.
That's true.
Dude, have you heard that really quickly?
What was it?
A Christmas Story Christmas.
Like, it's actually getting really good reviews.
Like, a lot of people are saying, forget the guy that originally played Ralphie.
Like you can tell that he put a lot of love and care into the sequel.
Gosh, I'm excited to see that one.
I am too.
But I'm not going to do that until after Thanksgiving.
You're one of those people.
Yes, I am absolutely one of those people.
Well, fine.
Yeah, but I'm super excited.
I'm kind of building up my Christmas movie list.
That's definitely on it.
The David Harbour one that's coming out.
Dude, I'm so excited.
Me and a buddy of mine got tickets to that for opening night Thursday.
I'm so excited.
Nice.
Yeah, super excited for that one.
I kind of really want to watch that one with Lindsay Lohan.
Just because I'm a sucker for good Hallmark movies.
I really want to see that one though, because that sparked the whole, I don't know what
someone said to Jamie Lee Curtis, but she's just like, oh yeah, it's great seeing her
back on the big screen.
And maybe, let's do Freaky Friday 2.
Why not?
I miss Lindsay Lohan.
And then apparently Lindsay Lohan is totally down for it.
So, Disney, ball's in your court.
Get on it, dude.
I would love a Freaky Friday 2.
I would love to see those two back together again.
Dude, how cool would it be if they did a three-way Freaky Friday situation?
That would be trippy as fuck.
Where they get Lindsay Lohan's daughter in on it, and so she swaps bodies with her grandma,
Jamie Lee.
Lindsay Lohan goes into her daughter, and then Jamie Lee goes back into Lindsay Lohan's
body.
That's a little too much for my brand to comprehend.
Dude, that would be freaking hilarious.
Yeah, that would be.
And you don't even have to release it in the theaters, Disney.
Just do what you did with Hocus Pocus 2, just put it on Disney Plus, that's fine, but still
make it a really good sequel.
Yeah, just kind of make it like the Cheaper by the Dozen situation.
Exactly.
Make it a little better than Cheaper by the Dozen, but...
I would argue, yeah.
I was going to say a lot better, but I didn't hate that remake as much as...
Wait, what are we talking about?
Yeah, we're talking about the new, new one.
Okay, I didn't know if we were talking about the actual Cheaper by the Dozen 2.
No, the original Cheaper by the Dozen, or technically that's a remake too, isn't it?
Yeah, that's true.
It's just a vicious cycle, isn't it?
Yeah, so we gave the 2022 Cheaper by the Dozen a C.
Okay.
I would give the Steve Martin one in the Bs, so yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, so, dude, make it happen.
Make it freaking happen.
Anyway, so yeah, I've been building up my Christmas season movie list.
I love it.
So I'm excited.
But anyway, without further ado, let's get right into this episode.
Let's do it.
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Alrighty, first up in 4K Spotlight.
We only have one new release this week, and like we said, it's kind of been a controversial
movie and not really for the movie itself, I don't think.
No, I don't think so either.
It's just, you know, the stupidity of one of the actors in it.
Yes.
But yeah, so this 4K release is Don't Worry, Darling, and this one's starring Florence
Pugh and Harry Styles.
And Rose, do you want to tell everyone about this release?
I would love to.
It actually stars quite a really big cast.
Yeah, you got Florence Pugh, Harry Styles, Olivia Wilde, who also directed it, didn't
she?
Yes, she did.
Jimma Chan, Kiki Lane, I don't know who Kiki Lane is, Nick Kroll, and Chris Pine.
So very, very solid cast.
For those of you that haven't heard the whole stirrup, I don't know if that's the word
to use, with this movie, it's the fact that during a press release of it, Harry Styles
basically spat into Chris Pine's lap and the internet ate that shit up.
Dude, there's been a lot of shit around this movie.
That's not the only thing that's come from that.
Florence Pugh has gone out of her way to not promote this movie.
That's true, I forgot about that.
Yeah, apparently she was treated absolutely horribly on set.
Oh shit.
I'm actually going to look this up real quick, just so it seems like we know what the hell
we're talking about.
I'm just going to Google the drama.
Okay, so let's see.
So don't obviously take this with a grain of salt, because I'm getting this from people.com.
Oh god.
But yeah, so they say that there's been a lot of controversy surrounding the film.
It's been tough to navigate with a smile.
Everyone went into the movie with the best intentions.
Olivia Wilde felt a lot of pressure with this movie.
It's harder for women to get a second chance at directing.
Says the person directing a freaking Madame Webb movie.
Fair enough.
Good point.
Let's see.
Yeah, so Florence Pugh was set as the lead character, and Shia LaBeouf was originally
set to play the supporting role.
No shit, really?
Yeah, but in September of 2020 it was announced that he had departed the film, and Harry Styles
signed on in his place.
Huh.
Okay.
There was some sort of on-set romance, probably between Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles, because
I heard that there was a little bit of a buzz between them.
Oh shit.
Oh sweet, they have a full timeline.
So April 2020, Shia LaBeouf and Florence Pugh announces the film's leads.
September 11th, 2020, Harry Styles takes over for Shia LaBeouf.
November 2020, Olivia Wilde says she did a little victory dance when Harry Styles signed
on for the film.
December 2020, People confirms that Olivia Wilde fired Shia LaBeouf, despite previous
reports that the actor left due to a scheduling conflict.
So that's freakin' shady.
Very.
Just trying to see if there's anything within that, okay.
January 2021, Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles are photographed holding hands, ooh, while
attending a wedding together.
Oh shit.
Apparently they'd been dating for a few weeks after they connected during filming.
February 2021, Olivia Wilde says she has a no, I'm assuming that's like an asshole policy.
Okay.
Yeah, after firing Shia LaBeouf, the, no, it's like ass blank, but it's like too much
space to be any, or no assholes, maybe?
It puts everyone on the same, or yeah, the no assholes policy, it puts everyone on the
same level.
I also noticed as an actress for years how the hierarchy of the set separated the actors
from the crew in this very strange way that serves no one.
I think actors would actually like to know more about what's happening, or what's happening
there when you're pulling my focus.
What is that lens change?
But the idea of don't bother the actors and keep them separate and don't look at them,
I think it makes everyone quite anxious.
Anyway, February 15th, Don't Worry Darling wraps filming.
Olivia or December 2021, Olivia Wilde discusses highlighting female pleasure in the film.
What the shit?
Okay.
April 27th, 2022, Olivia Wilde is served custody papers while promoting Don't Worry Darling
at CinemaCon.
I think I remember hearing that.
Yeah, I do too.
She was on stage too.
Yeah, like the fuck.
Did anyone get that on video?
Because I want to see if that's on YouTube.
Yeah, it was fully recorded.
Really?
Oh my god.
After this, I'm searching that shit up because I never actually saw it.
So someone comes to give her this envelope and says, personal and confidential on it.
And she takes the envelope and she's just like, ooh, very mysterious.
And then she opens it because she thinks it's a script and then she's like, oh, it was revealed
later that it was legal papers.
Oh shit, dude.
Oh my gosh, the freaking drama, dude.
Dude, oh my god.
All right, let's see.
That is honestly like kind of amazing.
All right, then Olivia Wilde posts like some praise about Florence Pugh on Instagram.
August 2022, Florence Pugh says, don't worry, darling, shouldn't be reduced to sex scenes.
Yeah, nothing really big there.
Let's see.
Olivia Wilde calls Florence Pugh extraordinary and shuts down clickbait rumors.
Olivia Wilde says she fired Shia LaBeouf to protect this set from combative energy.
Okay.
Shia LaBeouf denies Olivia Wilde's claim that he was fired.
Florence Pugh skips the don't worry, darling press at Venice Film Festival where Olivia
Wilde sidesteps questions about the rumors.
What rumors?
Oh, there were apparently there was like some sort of falling out.
Let's see.
Oh, at the at the premiere, it looks like yeah, but the premiere of the movie is when
Harry Styles supposedly spit into his chair or his lap.
Okay.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
So there so some PR rep said just to be clear, Harry Styles did not spit on Chris Pine.
There is nothing but respect these two men and any suggestion otherwise is a blatant
attempt to create drama that simply does not exist.
This article says otherwise.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, not really anything else.
Yeah, and then apparently everyone's frickin disputing this whole spit gate rumor.
So there's been a decent amount of drama.
Like I feel like we might have covered like too much.
But the sad thing is this probably sounds more interesting than the actual movie.
Yeah.
Absolutely Frickin Lutely, yeah, apparently people are trying to reduce this movie to
just like a couple sex scenes and whatever.
But I mean, if you made a shitty movie just it's fine.
Yeah, exactly.
So yes, that's what's coming out on 4K this week.
It doesn't get any exclusive shocker.
But yeah, so if you want to pick up this movie, it's gonna be on 4K and blu-ray tomorrow
Go for it. I
Won't be but you know, that's just me. Yeah
We'll see if I go through any of this and just clip out some of like bullshit stuff
Oh, man shit
Yeah, I don't know what else to say about this movie
well, I know what to say how about we move on to what we came here to talk about and
discuss a smile I
Say let's do it
Alrighty like we said for this week's breakdown we will be breaking
Or this week's headliner we will be breaking down smile kind of jank out of me. I know right
He pulled a me everybody hey at least I didn't try going main event
Fuck you
And there's that explicit tag, yeah, sorry I don't care anyway
Yeah, so this week we'll be breaking down smile this movie came out in
2022
All right, still 2022. I think it hasn't been out very long
But I am very glad that we did not decide to
Break this movie down while it was in theaters
Because I am too and I'm also glad that uh, I mean my sister decided to watch it at her place
So, you know like the evil entity could just live there instead of coming home with me
Yeah
Super messed up. Thanks Christina. Appreciate you taking one for the team
It's like you talked to her today, right
Yeah, actually like about like 20 minutes ago, so okay good
We like to make sure that she's safe. Yeah. No, of course. Oh
Yeah, so I ended up watching this
okay, I attempted to watch this on my my big TV out in the living room and
The first we went to your I absolutely went to my phone little bitch
I went and I went I ran away into my room and then turned the lights on and watched it on my phone
with the volume very low
dude
Dude, this movie is freaking scary. It's still freaking scared me
Wow, Caleb's a pussy. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I've been saying this for years, dude. Where have you been? That's
apparently under a rock
Oh
so
Yeah, this is this is gonna be an interesting breakdown because I don't know if we've done a movie
Or a horror movie. I know we've done horror movies, but I don't know if we've ever done one. That's like
Genuinely like scared me like this one. I don't think we have I think this is the first one
Yeah, and we will be limiting that how many of these we do
But real quick you oh
Sorry, go ahead. No, I was gonna say so if so
If you were counting on any of the Conjuring movies, um, don't
Yeah, anyone who suggests those can go straight to hell or paranormal activity
Yeah
Oh, those are okay. No, well, they're only okay because we've seen them before
Okay, that's fair
But I don't know how he would do those ones cuz dude, I freaking
Oh my god, I don't know if you remember it at all. I don't know why this Mary popped into my head
but remember when we were doing paranormal AF in high school and
Oh good hell
Like I think like Christian which is just like filming himself
Just like making funny faces and you can hear us in the background because we were gonna have a movie night that night, too
and I pull out I think paranormal activity too and
I just hear Caleb go I thought you were gonna bring four. Why'd you bring two?
Caleb just freaking wines that I brought four instead of two
Yeah, because really fun if I remember right it's because you said four was scary and or no
No, no, no scary into yeah for however. No. Yeah, two. What everyone you brought
Yeah, two was a lot to do
Yeah, two was a lot scarier than number four. Yeah
Just remembering the way that he the way just the way that he said I thought you were gonna bring four why
That absolutely does sound like something I would say in the exact tone, too
In the exact tone too, um for those of you that may not know that
actually care
paranormal AF is a
Attempt at a horror movie that me rose and our good friend Christian
attempted to film while we were in high school and
And if you and it we this was the jankiest shit
You've probably ever seen in your life. It wasn't even like scary
No, it was really stupid and we tried doing the whole the whole
Paranormal activity shebang like we tried doing found footage and all that shit and it came off
so bad
It really do the bloopers are better than the actual movie because like the movie is like five minutes
The bloopers are like I think I got it over like 30 minutes
easily
My favorite although my favorite blooper is um
when uh
So like it's you know, I think it's like night one or something and christian, you know
Like is going to sleep and all of a sudden he chimes in I forgot to take my glasses off
You just hear caleb in the
Caleb's reaction is just the best in the background freaking accuracy here. Come on, man
Yeah, because we shot it where he didn't have his glasses in one scene
And then he was going to bed and then his glasses were on and i'm just like damn it
Oh my god
Uh, that is a video both the bloopers and the video. Oh wait, are those on youtube?
Uh, the movie actually is the bloopers. I have the dvd somewhere
Yeah, those that will be
Save for a very very small amount of people
Oh my gosh
But good times, oh, yeah
Uh anyway
Getting back into this movie
Smile
Um, if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight
Different categories that we individually score to come to a final
Albrose letter grade the eight categories that we score are story writing acting character development
Which for this being a horror movie, we're going to change it to logic
Um, then we have effects music costumes and then we give our own personal score at the very end
and all of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us a
Letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade as well as a percentage so we can see like a ranking
for
For these movies
Yes
So anyway
Without further ado if you have not seen smile
um
If you don't want the ever-loving bejesus scared out of you you might
Be okay skipping it
Yeah
But if you do like horror movies that are genuinely scary
Uh, this is definitely the one for you. So do yourself a favor go check it out
And yeah
So without further ado reading with rose everyone
Yes
All right at a psychiatric ward stressed and overworked
Psychiatrist rose codder meets with laura weaver a phd student who had several who had several days earlier witnessed her art history
Professor died by suicide laura claims that an entity taking the form of smiling people is stalking and telling her she is going to die
Soon thereafter laura begins screaming hysterically and has a seizure after rose calls for help
She sees laura standing up and grinning with a shard of a broken plant pot laura commits suicide by slitting her throat
Rose sees her manic patient carl grinning and shouting she is going to die
Rose calls for nurses to restrain him only to see he was asleep the whole time
Concerned for rose's mental well-being her supervisor. Dr. Morgan to say gives her a week off
The following days the hallucinations continue making rose seem unhinged and dangerous to people around her including her fiance trevor and sister holly
At her nephew's birthday party rose's gift has somehow been replaced by her dead cat horrifying the children
Does it seem like they're skipping a lot here? Is it just me?
Or they maybe not skipping a lot, but just I don't it's it's kind of tough
Because like when you really think about it that it is kind of all that happened the rest of everything that happens is just
Like the either the scary moments or the times where she's sitting in her home silently
Good point. Yeah, fair enough. So it's like more more. They're skipping those parts than any yeah
All right. Yeah, you got a point there
Okay, she sees a party attendant grinning at her and curses then falls onto a glass table ending the party in chaos
She visits her former therapist dr
Madeline northcott who suggests that her problems stem from her abusive and mentally ill mother whose death from an overdose she witnessed as a child
Upon learning laura's professor was grinning at her before her death rose visits his widow victoria and learns he was affected after witnessing a woman die by suicide
Rose asked her ex-boyfriend joel a police detective to go through police records
They find several cases where someone witnessed a suicide then a few days later died by suicide in front of someone else who continued the pattern
Rose visits holly attempting to patch things up, but only makes it worse the entity takes the form of holly as she leaves terrifying her
Joel calls her revealing that he discovered all the witnesses died by suicide within a week
The exception was robert tally who instead murdered someone and the key witness to the murder continued the suicide chain
Rose and joel visit tally in jail where tally claims the only way to escape the entity is to kill someone in front of a witness
And do it in a brutal fashion to cause major psychological trauma
off to off of which the entity feeds
Rose angrily rejects the option and leaves she is confronted at home by the entity in madeline's form telling her it's a
time rose impulsively drives to to her hospital with a knife and hallucinates murdering carl in front of d'assey
I think that's how i say to say to pass on the entity
She snaps out of it and hastily drives away though not before d'assey spots the knife and alerts the police
Rose drives to her abandoned family home attempting to deprive the entity of witnesses rose confronts it in the form of her dead mother
It is revealed rose had actually found her mother shortly after overdosing and she witnessed her mother's death throes, but did not intervene
Rose sets the entity entity on fire and leaves as the house burns down
She drives to joel's apartment and confront and he confronts oh my good lord
She drives to joel's apartment and he comforts her
Suddenly she realizes everything that had happened from the moment she entered the old house was a hallucination
The entity confronts the now despairing rose reveal reveals itself as a skinless creature
With mouths nested within its mouth then overwhelms and forces itself inside her body
Yeah, um how that entity looked um, I definitely got some stuff to say with in effects because that shit was freaking terrifying
um
christina like what's funny is christina didn't get scared really like
scared of it until like it opened like it's math mouth, but like
No, that didn't scare me the way the freaking creature looks scared the shit out of me
Frickin someone on reddit made the best comment ever though. They compared the way that it looks to maryland manson
Mike you know what?
Yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong and that comment won the day for me yesterday
um
So yeah, sorry so overwhelms and forces itself inside of her body
Joel having tracked rosa's phone enters the house and sees a smiling rose set herself on fire
As he watches helplessly with the entity passing on to him
What a vicious cycle dude
this
This is a kind of a tough one
And like if we were to do something like character development
I think this is where character development would just tear this movie apart
undeservingly
Yeah, I would agree with this is one of those movies. It's where
Like it's done, right?
Like I think a lot of horror movies try to give you like a somewhat happy ending kind of
Or just like relative to whatever the situation may be
like this did nothing like you were no in no better place at the beginning than you were at the end like this just gave you
Every little bit of horror knowledge that you needed to know about this creature and then ended it with like
Yeah, guess what couldn't freaking stop it like what you're gonna do now bitches. Yep. It'll just keep going and going
Yeah, um
so
Fun fact about this movie. This is actually based off of a short that the
director
Had previously done called
Laura hasn't slept
Or something along those lines
Yeah, I think that's what because the original title for the movie was supposed to be something's wrong with rose
But then they changed its smile. Yeah, and so
What's interesting about that is the Laura?
That we see at the beginning of the movie the one that passes it on to rose is the main focus
of
the movie
Or is a main focus of the short
So Laura in the short is the Laura from the movie and then
Laura from the movie and so we just see her
Transference of
That's freaking cool
Yeah, it's it's wild and this is funny enough. Um a series of movies. I feel you could take
forever
If you wanted to yeah
Yeah, you're really good
Like you just created
You're an infinite loop of just horror
that you can
Play around with so you can move from like character to character
Horror instance a horror instance. Hey got a good idea for a good killing
Do it and like as like you can go so far with this it's ridiculous
Yeah, it really is
um
But yeah, dude, I think one thing that this um
This kind of skipped over was all the instances where this
entity
Um was haunting her
So like the first instance that we see that's that made me like turn it off from my big tv and
Make it play me play it on the phone
Is when rose is home alone and she's drinking
Wine and she just kind of like looks like she's
Just kind of like looks off into her living room and you see freaking laura
Like all just her face smiling just barely lit
And just like just standing there and then rose freaking freaks out and drops her glass and like scares the
Ever-loving shit out of me, dude
Oh shit
like so
That scared the hell out of me
The the next thing that scared the the ever-living crap out of me is when her sister
Like after like the whole instance where she gives her nephew this gift and it ends up being her dead cat
Yeah, which oh my god so after yeah super messed up
um
But she um
She goes to like apologize to her sister or like
Explain to her sister what's happening and her sister is just like no get the hell out of here
Like leave you're not welcome in my house anymore. And so she so rose goes sits in her car and is just like
Trying to like breathe and calm herself and then you see in the distance
Like from her sister's front door her sister comes out and is walking towards the door
of her car knocks on the window
And then she like rose looks up and she's just like oh holly and then holly's head freaking comes in like
spins upside down and
Dude I I almost threw my phone
That was so freaking scary dude
I swear they showed that in one of the trailers. So that didn't get me
Yeah, I I hadn't seen
other than like the the teaser on
Okay. Yeah, and the tik tok one's like a couple seconds long. So I didn't see anything like that
Oh, okay. Nice. I love it. So I I went into this pretty blind to what
They were like trying to pull i'm sure you loved that right
Normally, I hate that but I just assumed oh it's on paramount like it's probably just some cheap horror movie like
What's the worst that can happen?
And all of the
Super terrifying shit happened. I mean clearly it wasn't I mean, yeah, it was made for cheap but
Looking at the box office. This thing did freaking amazing
It did
Phenomenally well like god damn
this had a 17 million dollar budget and its box office right now is
Over 200 million. Yeah
Holy shit
Yeah, and that that's globally like an opening weekend. It did really well. It made just
I think just under 22 million
Hell yeah, dude, that's awesome. Yeah, it's it's been doing amazingly well
Um
Especially for a horror movie, I feel
Yeah, I I absolutely agree. Um
But yeah, like this movie can mess you up
It really can I really really can
Do I damn near lost my mind?
when
Her therapist came to her after like her fiance was trying to hold an intervention or something like that
Like bring up his issues to her therapist and they were going to have like a session
But she like stormed out and so her therapist comes back to her door like rings her doorbell comes in
it's just like i'm just trying to make sure you're not a danger to yourself or others and
Like they sit down on the couch and they start talking
And then in the middle of their conversation the phone rings and she goes to answer and it's her freaking therapist
I
I almost shat myself
Dude I
Hate shape-shifting
In horror movies so so much
And that it like something like that that's like my nightmare really oh dude
like if
this is like it's one of those like
That I have like a realistic fear
of just
of cats
But then I my unrealistic fear is talking to someone and then having them call me on the phone
It's a it's a very specific fear and it's in this movie just
Triggered me in a way that I did not know was possible
And you loved every minute of it, right
Love is a strong word, okay
but
Dude I like the movie got me sweaty
Really?
Yeah, man, I must be like because of that. Yeah, I was just
Like oh my gosh. Oh my gosh
I
Was losing my shit, dude
I must be like immune to like horror movies now
days for how many i've seen since I was a kid because
I mean don't get me wrong like everything in this movie was great. Like all the twists just everything but like, you know
Stuff like that like none of that like made me go. Oh my like have me like sweating or some shit like that
Like were you able to guess some of that shit like some of the twists or no
I wasn't able to guess
but like
When it happened, I'm like, oh, oh
It's an awesome twist. I wasn't like, oh my god
Dude I was losing my mind like I paused it and it was like, oh my oh
Oh no, you were like the guy in troll too. Oh my god
Please tell me you've seen that clip. Yeah, I have. Okay. Okay. Good. I dude I was
losing it
It was like anytime that they did something like that dude
Like what's oh, sorry. No, I was just saying like anytime they did something like that where it was just like a total twist of
the situation
Lost it and it's it's it's like I kept forgetting that the
Entity was like freaking
Pennywise and could shape shift into anything or any one
And so when it was like the therapist I was just I was like super untrusting of everyone for a while
And then when she like had that whole hallucination where she was killing the uh, what's his name? Carl?
I was just like and then like reverts back and then when her boss comes out to her car
That's where I'm like, it's him. It's him. But nope ended up being reality
Like I'm I'm so bad when I'm like afraid like that
Like I said that this filled me with genuine fear
And triggered me my my fight-or-flight response in a way that I did not care for
Oh god, dude, I love it
Anyway, um story wise what what do you think?
Honestly, I feel for a horror movie really solid story. Um
I don't know. I like I feel that they uh,
I mean this well that then all that more so goes into logic. Um, but just
I don't they the way that they set it up
Made made a lot of sense. They explained how it transfers. Um
to uh the next um person very well, um, it's just a vicious cycle
Um, which really freaking sucks. That's
like
God imagine like watching someone commit suicide and
Just thinking to yourself. Well, yeah now i'm fucked. That's great
Yeah, but I think it's a good movie
Yeah, but that's just it it's like you don't know. Oh, yeah, like we know something's up. Yeah
but I was
Do you remember um when uh rose goes to the um
What was the girl's name at the beginning? Okay, alice not alice. Um, uh, laura
laura, um
When rose goes to laura's
Laura's teacher's wife's house
Um, and like she shows her all like all the paintings that he had done before he committed suicide
I straight up told christina the one that he did of um, I think it was like his brother when he was smiling
I'm like, I know this is probably messed up to say but like I actually want that picture like I would actually like hang that
I would hang that up
Like dude, you're you're jacked up
I know I am but like some of those drawings were kind of like
I know I am but like some of those drawings were cool as hell like come on
They were they were really cool
Um, but yeah, i'm i'm that jacked up. Yeah, but to hang it up in your house. Absolutely not
Absolutely, come on
Like come now that's something i'd i'd be doing all types of like wiccan shit on it
Oh shit, i'd be taking it to everyone like every religion like hey
Can you bless this picture for me real quick?
thanks
Yeah, like i'll like constantly be burning sage in whatever room that this was like sitting in
Yes, I love it
You're absolutely right like the story on this is like for a horror movie and especially it's like it's a super
basic premise, but it's
so
Effective
Yeah, yeah, and like dude the freaking opening like that is honestly the one of the best openings i've seen in a horror movie in a while
Just like you don't see the title card until after um
Goddamnit, I already forgot her name again. Laura
Laura i'm in a bad name. How do I forget that name?
after she kills herself and just while looking at like how she's smiling and just like literally just like
cutting her uh her face from like the top of her ear all the way down to her neck and then as she's just
Completely just bleeding out. She drops to the floor still smiling
That shit was freaking terrifying, but I loved it
Yep
Dude it was
That was nuts
Like
Like I said, I don't
Watch them now just like absolutely understand how that like how it transferred because of trauma. Yep
Like oh man
That jacked me up something awful and I think what jacked me up the most
Like this was a shot that I didn't necessarily care for and like i'll i'll talk about it later when we get into like
effects or whatever
I
Did not like how they did like a slow pan
Across a room like she was looking around the room super slowly
That's fair didn't care for that
But
But again, I think if they
If they didn't do that, it would have just been cheap jump scare
But one like one of the things that like scared me about that scene
Is when she was like on her emergency phone like calling
For for like backup or security or whatever
First off, I feel like you need to be like looking at the patient when you're doing that
Yeah, like why would you have your back turned to someone who's having a manic episode
Guess what not doing that
Um
But no when
Like what what scared me is I recognized almost instantly when she stopped screaming
Oh, really? Yeah, like
Yeah, like it like rose runs to the phone like starts calling like hey, I need security blah blah blah like I
Like I could almost like pick out immediately like she stopped screaming turn around turn around
Like she's like she's gonna freaking bushwhack you
seriously
And technically she did yeah, it's true. So
Yeah
But the
The flow that they had through this it was
Even though they had a lot of moments where she was like alone to herself not really doing
A whole lot like the pacing was still like it kept you on edge
Yeah, it did
I agree
So I really appreciated that that aspect of the
that aspect of the of the story like even the
quote unquote slow moments were
paced very well
Yeah
Like if you were just to take those scenes by themselves like they'd probably seem like okay, this is dragon but
I think with just the context of everything else like
Pretty solid
No, I absolutely agree
Um
So where are you sitting with uh story?
You know, I think i'm gonna go i'm gonna go on 82
That's not too bad
Um, I actually might be a bit higher than you
Okay, I like it. Yeah. Um
I think I might be around more in the 85 range
Okay
Um, I thought like I said really well done and things that could have dragged
Um
Really didn't
And there was like a lot of moments that
like a lot of moments where I feel like that could have been the case and there was only a couple times where i'm like
Okay, let's pick it up
Yeah, I think the biggest one was when like at the end when she went to the the abandoned house
Um, I felt maybe like that hallway walk took a little bit
Of time that it didn't need to take
That's that's okay. That's fair, but other than that like
Really solid
I agree
All right, um writing
What do you think
I feel the writing was pretty good. I mean honestly, I feel I might be a little lower, uh than the story on writing. Um
Just
Uh, I don't know some characters were uh, the way that they were written were
Not rubbed me the wrong way just came across as like annoying
If that makes sense was it the brother-in-law?
Yeah, it was the brother-in-law and um, also I was not a fan of her fiance
Yeah, I can definitely give you that like their dialogue just seemed very
Almost unnecessary
It did like honestly even some of the lines from like the the the sister hit rosa's sister
Maybe this is just me but like when because uh
when um rose and her fiance go to dinner with her sister and her husband
Um rose mentions like hey, you know, i'm not gonna be able to make it to your son's birthday. Uh, you know, I have work
Um
And they kind of have like an altercation
Uh rose's sister calls her the next day and you know, like they they apologize to each other
and
It's the way that she says it
I feel like if she would have said it a different way, it wouldn't have like been like well, you know
What kind of like if you bitch?
It's when she's just like oh well, you know what if you're not going to be at his birthday party
The least you can do is get him a present like come on. He he's in he's into model trains. I'm like
Okay, like
Like like I said, maybe if you would if she would have said it in a different way
You know understandable, you know like
You know, I would want to get my my nephew
A nice gift if I wasn't gonna be able to make his birthday party
But um, if his mother, uh said it like a bitch like that. I'd be like, you know what? F you
Yeah, I I had an issue with that too
Like some like I said some dialogue was just a little clunky
Just like felt like really
Unnecessary like there were some characters. I feel were well written like I I really
Liked how the uh, the therapist was written
Yeah, she was she was really good. She was great
Yeah, the boss was a little less. So
Like they did something weird with the uh, the writing I feel like
It felt like they made cuts in really
odd places
Like yeah, yeah, that's that's fair
Yeah, like the the second time that um
rose had like
A freak out and she dropped a glass
Um, they cut the scene like to the next day and like didn't even like address what was said but her
fiance comes out and he's just like
Hey rose, did you break another glass and then cut?
I'm like, yeah, I remember that what was that about?
Yeah, right
It's like yeah, obviously
Like it's just kind of one of those things that didn't need to be said it was like the same with the boss like he
He asked a question and then cut
Yeah, and I was like, okay, which is not addressing like I thought it was like a flashback or something like
Oh, this will answer your question. No, it's just a continuation like on later that day
Yeah
Like they had like a few moments like that that were really weird
Um
Honestly, the strongest writing was obviously given to
I think they spent most of their writing focus on
Telling this story on how they wanted the story to be told
Oh, absolutely
Like I think dialogue was just kind of an afterthought
Yeah
All they really were focused on is explaining, you know, like how this entity came to be and how it passes on to
Passes on to each person. Yeah, which I mean in a way I spent like especially for horror. I appreciate
Yeah, I mean, let's face it a lot of horror movies aren't known for
amazing dialogue
Yeah, I would say
Yeah
And those that are but uh
Yeah, I feel like those that are known for for decent dialogue aren't very scary
Yeah, that's very true
um
Yeah, I
I think i'm in ingredients with you. I think the uh
The writing score is just a tad lower than than story
But I think i'm going to go about where you were with story. I think i'm going to go to an 82
Whoop, not 82 82
Then i'm just going to go like a couple points, but i'm going to go to an 80
Fair
All right moving on over to acting we got uh, sozi bacon who played rose cotter
Kyle gallner who played joel who was her ex
ex-lover
Uh, jesse t usher who played trevor her current fiance
uh robin wygert who played dr madeline northcott her
roses therapist
Caitlin stacey who played laura weaver who was the
Patient that transferred the entity onto her
uh
And cal pen who played dr morgan d'asai
Who was rose's?
boss
Yeah, i'll fully admit I probably got a little too excited when he came first game on screen i'm like, oh my god, it's kumar
Yeah
Yeah, I thought he was gonna be a bigger role in this. I was yeah. I was hoping so god way to waste cal pen
but whatever
Yeah
Yeah, i'm just looking like a little bit further down the line to see if there's anyone else. That's like significant but
Not really seeing anything
Um
All right, let's go, uh top three
Um
Number one definitely, um, oh my god, what did you say? What her name was that played rose? Uh, sozi bacon
Okay. Yeah, definitely her. I mean she she's the main star of the story. She was she was very believable
um, especially just watching as her as she gradually
Uh started to realize that she was then she was the current victim
um
And up to the point where she just fully realizes it and she's just like well
shit, um
Yeah, just just really solid acting from her
um
Number two, um, I would give to uh
Joel who played Joel uh, kyle golner
kyle golner, um
I I thought he was really good. Um
I uh
I liked his when it comes to like her lovers. I liked his performance way better than uh her current fiancees
Um, she seemed to have better chemistry with him than her. Yeah
I I agree. I absolutely agree. Um
so
Yeah, that that's why he would be my number two. Um
And then number three would uh would have to be her uh therapist. Um
Who what was her name? Uh, dr. Madeline northcott played by robin wygert
Yes her she was fantastic. So
That would be my top three that's actually my top three as well. Hell. Yeah, there we go
That doesn't happen very often no it doesn't but yeah everything that you said, um
I will say this the way that
Uh
Sozi bacon was playing rose when she was going to
her old childhood home
Made me
It kind of gave me like vibes that she was going to commit suicide there by herself kind of like
And herself and the entity
Yeah, but she thought too
it almost fell
because it
like
I don't know if this is like was a writing issue acting issue or what because I feel like it could technically be both
But it seemed like she was going there to commit suicide
Like she was going there to face her demons
and then like
Defeat her demons in a way
Yeah
But she
And then I thought like okay, like this is it like she's gonna light this place on fire
And just like
end everything
Like knowing that she can't or at least to her knowledge she that there is no ending this entity
Within her
Yeah
So
It felt very
Deceptive when
That's not how it played out
Like I almost I almost felt cheated like
Like I said, I had like genuine fear for most of this movie and then it was like the ending just kind of fell apart
Yeah, like honestly the best part of the ending was actually like seeing the entity and like how freaking terrifying that thing was like
Oh my god. Yeah, it's like the freaking slenderman on steroids
Seriously, honestly, I'm amazed. I didn't have nightmares about that shit last night
Yeah, um, I will be genuinely shocked if I don't have nightmares tonight
You're welcome
Um, but shit it's like
Like I said, I felt cheated like I felt like okay. She's finally like
Accepted her fate. She's kind of dealt with her demons a little bit, but and so it just felt like
Like knowing that she didn't do any of that and she just ended up
Transferring the entity onto someone else felt very cheap
Like felt like okay. Then what the hell was this dealing with your inner demons bullshit?
Yeah, like what did that accomplish? Yeah exactly exactly
Just felt odd
Like in retrospect so like I said wasn't quite sure if that was a writing issue, I think
A majority of it was a writing issue. So that's definitely like I said, I was like
I think the 82 kind of covers all the issues I had
In regards to that whether it yeah, I haven't had been an acting issue or a writing issue
So
But I mean acting overall wasn't bad. It was
Fairly average in my opinion. Yeah, I would agree
So honestly, I'm sitting at like maybe an 80
You know, I'm not sure for that
All right, next up we got the logic
So for those of you that don't know
logic is
Kind of covering like making sure that the movie followed its own story
And like whatever those rules may be like obviously that's not like set in any sort of reality
It's set in a world where this evil entity can
Come and kill people
Yeah
So
With this I think like the main logic was
That the movie was supposed to be a movie
So with this I think like the main logic was
the
To transfer the entity onto someone else they had to
Or the person containing the entity had to kill themselves in front of someone
To traumatize them enough to take the entity on because the entity fed on trauma
And then it was a period of
Like four four days to a week
That the next victim would be taken over
So we kind of get this
Entity from beginning to end from the transference from Laura
To rose and then rose trying to deal with her
issues
Into the transference into Joel
And I gotta say I was very impressed
Logically what they did
I was too like even if I feel people like didn't like pick up on that
when
Rose and Joel Joel, right? That's his name. Yes
Like sit down and they watched the like um, like they you know dive more into the these cases
And they actually watched them in cctv footage
During this whole scene there like you can they're actually explaining like how this whole thing happens and even in like the cctv footage
Where you see a guy like at a gas station?
Walk up to this old lady and take I wasn't it like a pair of like yard trimmers
Um and stab them into himself? Is that what he did?
I don't know exactly what they were
Yeah, well, yeah, you you got it right. They were like bush trimmers or something
Honestly like them stabbing into himself kind of makes more sense than what I thought he did
Well, what did you think I okay?
This is gonna sound weird and now that I'm like, okay, I'm gonna stab him
He's gonna sound weird and now that I'm like saying speaking it out loud. I realized that this doesn't make a lick of sense
but I thought he
Opened it lifted up and then dropped it down. So he like cut his face off
I know I'd have to watch the scene again because I don't remember him lifting it
That high above his head to where that would or did he? Yeah, he he went full over his head
And then he like went down or like he I know you could be right
Like
That I don't know like I might be I I think it'd be very like slim chances if I was
Hey, you never know
Um, like all I know is like he just he lifted up over his head came down
and then there was like a splash of blood over his head and
Then he fell and then the scissors
Kind of bounced in front of him. So I'm like, I I don't know if he like pierced himself
So that that's kind of where my that's a good point
I didn't think about that. Yeah, that's a good point
Yeah, you're right because I mean
I'm just thinking like most traumatizing way that would do it
Yeah
Dude straight up like I cut his face off
And he was smiling the whole time because they even point that out like they rewind the footage and they're just like is he smiling
during this whole situation
So they they do like even if like you know, because all fully men in some horror movies
I'm oblivious and don't pick up on like stuff. That's literally right in front of my freaking face
So I mean, but I I feel I was actually it was pretty
easy to pick up like
How the whole situation was like?
I mean it was pretty easy to pick up like how the whole situation went down
But I did appreciate during that scene. They did explain in their own way
For audiences that didn't understand what was going on and like how it was bouncing to one person
from one person to another
Yeah, I
Yeah, I'm glad that they did that too it just
It did kind of feel a little like coddling to us like oh like yeah
Not necessarily smart enough to pick this up on it on your own
But I don't like you said I don't know if I would have been able to pick this up on my own
Yeah, so I'm kind of glad that they kind of had like a little bit of a mystery vibe to it as well, which was
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree
One thing that I feel horror movies kind of
struggle with is making the
protagonist
the exception to the rule
So true like they always seem to like something just kind of goes
In the protagonists way like the one thing that I'm thinking of is like
countdown
Like
Like the the chick who's supposed to die like ends up surviving one second longer and then
Like she like like I said, she's the exception to the rule
Yeah
And so it just kind of like blows the movie apart and I'm like, eh, I did
Really appreciate that. She fell within the time restraints
The time restraints that they had like they said it was like four
four days
Typically like five
Yeah was like the the max that he had seen or sometime within a week like no one lasted longer than a week
um
And then he saw some that were as
Few as like four days and then she states like oh i'm on my fourth day
So by the time she died she was probably on her fifth day
Maybe even starting her sixth. I'm good, but we obviously don't
quite know that
Yeah, no, that's true
so i'm
Like I said kind of glad that that she uh
Fell with like within those time restraints
I'm glad it didn't go longer like they didn't like push her out further that she kind of fell within the time restraints
She kind of fell perfectly within that
Yeah, no, I agree
like
If we're going off of like the my initial assumption saying that she died within five days
Like makes perfect sense like she didn't last any longer
He said that he'd seen people
Within a week
Sometimes as short as four days
And so five days kind of seems like a decent middle ground
Yeah, I agree
So really really appreciated that that scene
The one
Issue that I will say I had
Was the
Entity was it like did it have a physical form?
Or was it all like mental like within her mind?
Is that that's where I'm struggling
Yeah, that's a good question because if the entity did have a physical form like how was she or?
Didn't have a physical or however you want to go
Around this it's like how did she light it on fire?
Yeah, but then it's like it was all a hallucination too
Like she thought she did all that she thought she went to
The jolts place afterwards, but no she freaking like
Runs out of the the space and like realizes that she's just back in that home
So it's like did any of that really?
matter
It it was trippy as shit like this whole movie was trippy as hell
But
Like logically like if you're if you're thinking through this this entity can
Manifest anything that it wants
That true any sort of horror or any sort of
situation like obviously like we had that whole situation with her therapist and like calling her and
and whatnot, so it's
totally within the realm of possibility that the the entity is like
Some sort of ghost or not really ghost
I wouldn't even know how to like it's like some sort of spirit
Yeah, I wouldn't even know how to describe it fully
But just getting back into it logically
I think they freaking killed it. I I honestly agree. I absolutely agree
Oh damn i'm actually in the 90s with this one. I'm too
Yeah, I was thinking like in like the high 80s, but no, I can't argue with being in the 90s
Yeah, I think i'm gonna
be
95
I think that like the only reason the only thing i'm docking for is just the the weird shit that they did with um
The the like the reality of what like the manifestation of the uh
This entity yeah, because so and like
Yeah, that's my issue because it's like okay did she hurt the entity in any way shape or form
Probably not but the entities can still like crawl inside her
So it's just I think it's just that one little hiccup for me. Yeah
You know, honestly, yeah, I absolutely agree with you. It's that one hiccup for me. So I have nothing
Honestly different than what you're saying. So yeah, i'm gonna match it again 95
All righty moving on next up we got effects
The only one that I have problems with
Is the fact that I don't know if it was a taxidermy cat or if it was this if it was a cgi cat
But the cat that the kid is holding when he finds the dead cat in in the in the box
Um looked so freaking bad that um
I think I think like I can't remember if I I turned to christina or she she told me i'm just like yep
Yeah, that's definitely bringing down effects
Because straight up
God that was so bad which so because like are like
Like I said are than that the effects are super good in this movie like the I mean, it's not really an effect
But like this the the smiling is freaking terrifying in this movie. Every single person that smiles is
god
freaking
Nightmare fuel and then to top it all off how the freaking entity looks at the end of this movie
Is going to
Like I said, i'm very shocked hasn't given me nightmares, but i'm sure will
It is freaking nightmare fuel and it scares the ever-living hell out of me
And now I can't get it out of my freaking brain. I'm thinking about it right now
God freaking damn it. I freaking quit
Dude, you know what the what this the creature looked like
For those of you that have chosen the good path and not watch this movie
And it's like I said, like we've said it's not because it's a bad movie. It's because it's absolutely horrifying
um
the
The way that I would explain that that like the design of the creature
Imagine
A demogorgon with multiple rows of human teeth
I gotta put that image in my head. That's the best way I can think to explain. Yeah
honestly, I would
just the the the the the
Human face that they also give it just and the smile on it. Just oh my god. It's freaking terrifying
I'm getting freaking goosebumps. Just thinking about it right now. Like what the shit?
Yeah, like okay, this is like
Like how you explained it, it's a maryland manson with a demogorgon mouth
But instead of it opening it up like a flower, it's just multiple like
jaws of human like with rows of human teeth
It it is the
Funkiest looking thing that i've ever seen and funny enough that didn't scare me nearly as much as the psychological shit did
Oh my god
Dude like I do so well when it comes to like how creatures look
Like there's a very very few creatures that like
That have like startled or scared me
Really? Yeah, what scares me is like the psychological shit
That happens like the whole
Oh evil evil entities coming after me. It looks like my therapist, but my therapist just called me on the phone
like
That's the shit that terrifies me like I could give I could give a flying shit like it's
Once I see a the creature I am significantly less scared
than I am of course like when I
Because i'm like trying to find it just to make sure like i'm explaining
Like the maryland manson just like truly makes sense and of course like one of the first ones that pops up is freaking jeff
The was it like jeff the reaper or some shit like that that like freaking?
Scary creepypasta i'm like thanks for putting that back into my head
Frickin internet
Appreciate it freaking assholes
Damn it. I can't find it. Oh great. Now. You know what? I'm seeing smiley dog, too. This is just freaking fantastic
I freaking quit. All right. Yep. Nope
I'm not even gonna yeah, yeah, how about we just handle our explanations? Yeah, okay. Yeah, because yeah, that's enough internet for me today
Yeah
um
But yeah, I think
I am more scared of
Human faces like disfigurements or
Like like with just the I think I'm more scared of
Like the plain smiles than I was of the creature
I agree. Yeah
Yeah, but I mean the creature looked all right it kind of had like a little bit of a rubbery cgi effect
It did but but yeah, like I said before it even like starts to like really like
Turn into a demogorgon
Just when it just looks like maryland manson like when it has like just like it's just like grinning like in a terrifying way
Like god damn it. I'm remembering it again. Um, just
Duh, it's like it's just terrified me. I don't like it. It's like
uh maryland manson face with a slenderman body
Yeah
Hell no
Yeah, hell no. Yeah. Um
But yeah, so that looks really good the the cat I will definitely agree with you looked rough
And it was like honestly throughout the whole thing
like when I noticed it at the beginning because like the
The beginning when he like the cat comes like walks in the room and then lays down looked really freaking fake
Maybe i'm just a uh, I was like
Maybe i'm just uh, I was uh drawing a uh
What's the word?
I don't know what the word I was um
cute cat, uh
Not oblivious
I don't know. The cat just was very very cute. Um, so I didn't even notice that it was cgi
I didn't pick up on that at all until you know, like the actual like kid holding the dead cat which
Oh my god, I I wish I could have uh
Uh gone without seeing that because you know, I never want to see a dead cat
Dude, I know it was probably me just not paying that close attention to the cat
But I didn't think that the cat that he pulled out of that box looked anything like her cat
At least I don't think so like I feel like her cat was like gray and black, right?
No, no hers was a uh calico
No
Okay
Never mind then I I don't know what the hell i'm talking about
All right. Let me make sure like I don't want to say a cat
Unless uh, you know
Yep. Yeah calico cat
Okay
So it had some color to it
Yes, it did
Okay, because that's the part I wasn't quite remembering right?
Like when he pulled it out, I was just like that's that seems to have a lot more color than why do I have a feeling?
If I if I um look up
Smile cat. Yeah smile cat. Well, apparently that's a creepy pasta. I had no idea
Yeah, have fun with that one
What was the name of the cat? Do you remember?
Uh
Was it mittens? No, it was something
Something weird
What the hell
I remember the name like
Son of a bitch I can't freaking
I can't remember
Yeah, I can't either it was a weird name though
Yeah
Maybe if it says that
Yeah, okay, i'm not seeing that
But I swear from what I remember it's a calico cat
Oh mustache mustache. Thank you
Yeah, anyway, I thought that that cat
Looked super freaking weird when when they pulled him out of the box it looked
I I will say I do think it was like a taxidermied fur though. I don't think it was like an actual like a
Cat or anything?
But it did like you said it looked super fake and it looked super fat, too
I'm like that's not all that cat
Yeah
No, fair enough
Yeah, so
Overall like the effects were were decent and
adequate enough. I think most of the scary stuff was just
people smiling
Yeah, and that was just you know what that that went a long way it was
Simple but effective
Yeah
So I might be
I think I might be in like the 83 range
I think I'm gonna go just a little higher than you 85
Just because of like how
Like that entity at the end just like I think because of how much it scared me and just how
This movie did its job with you know, like really wanting to terrify his audience
They did such a great job with the effects that like yeah, I have to give it a little bump
fair
All right. Next up we got music
So this was obviously like a horror movie. So this is kind of uses of silence and
Just audio overall. Yeah
And I have to say
The use of silence was excellent
Yes
I got what ruined it is just the
ear shattering
Screams that they would randomly throw in or just loud noises that they would randomly throw in to get a cheap
jump scare that made me want to flip a table
If you've been listening to this show for any period of time or just listen to any of our horror movie
Breakdowns you'll know the one thing that I hate most in this world
Is cheap jump scares and this movie was
crammed with them
Yes, it was
Did they
They they ruined them
Like there were so many like so many
Like there were so many like really good scares in here
That were just me being filled with dread and terror that they ruined with a cheap jump scare
Yeah, it's fair
Now were there some that were earned? I would say yes. I think the biggest one was when
Like we first see the the haunting of Laura
Like we see Laura's face kind of in the shadows and then um
She gets startled by her fiance and drops a glass or does she drop the glass first?
I can't remember now
Shit
Yeah, well either way. It was just a cheap jump or it was just a jump scare in that moment
That worked out perfect, but then they kept doing it
It was just like boom loud noise and then just silence for a really long time then boom loud noise
And then one thing like another scare that I feel like was absolutely cheap she was listening to
the audio of what was happening with uh
Laura on like the day that she died like during that whole situation
And she heard herself say Laura and then she was hearing this whisper just
Calling Rose Rose
Yeah
Not bad
And so she's like listening turning the volume up a little bit higher so she can hear it more and more clearly
And then she goes to play it again and it's like complete silence for a little bit and then you just hear boom
Rouse and
I
Cannot explain how pissed off that made me first off. It scared scared me
But then it was
But then it was like an anger scare. Yeah, or I was just like gosh. I'm like, why do they do that?
Like
You know what I would have done
I wouldn't have thrown in
Like tell me how like how you would imagine this playing out
Like this all the whole set like this just whole scene
It would have been something that you added throughout the movie, but just for this scene in particular
I would have done like
The whole thing where it's like Laura
And then like little whisper of rose and then she turns it up
It's a little bit louder this time and then she turns up her volume like all the way
And then it's like she plays like Laura and then she hears the rose
Or but and then it's like the pause
For a lot longer than like how the audio was usually playing
and then it's another whisper just the
Rose and then it's just
Like laughter and it just gets louder and louder and louder
But it's like a creepy laugh and just like louder and louder and louder until it's like almost deafening
And then she like slams her computer shut like throws it her headphones down whatever like you may you want to do
like
I think that would have worked
way better
I
Agree, and I love that idea. Yeah, and then if you want to take it a step further
You could have
Where she like takes her headphones off like kind of throws them down
like are off to the side and then like a hand comes in and like
Pushes her laptop down and then like
Continuing that laugh at that deafening level
like
Okay
Dude I like that a lot
That would have rocked my world
I love it
Unfortunately, that's not what we got though. Yeah, we got a cheap ass like
Yes, we did I hate shit like that
absolutely
Absolutely
Hate it. Yeah, same here
So, I mean i'm not gonna dock too hard for that because if if
Honestly, I feel like I need to go in and like we need to figure out some way to dock for cheap jump scares
You know fair enough fair enough, um, but music
I mean the scores were decent and
The uses of silence were good the issues fall with the jump scares
For me i'm like at a seven
Honestly, i'm
I'll match you at a seven. Okay. I was thinking more like
6.5 range, but obviously we round up so well, I can meet you at a seven
Well, I can meet you at a seven
All right. Next up we got costumes
Um, everyone's costume kind of
Average betty. Yeah, it wasn't really like anything or it was literally just normal clothes, but I mean
What really could you do like spectacular in this movie? It's like just based in reality. There's nothing really
Yeah
I'll say the the biggest costume like pro was the the entity
Yes, um, I can definitely agree with that
But even that like I think
overall
Like minus the entity I would probably give the costumes about a five
Yeah
Like just just average as average can get
Yeah
with the entity
I'm maybe at a six because it did feel like something we'd seen before
In a way, like the character the like I said, it felt very
Like
I don't know how it was to explain it. I I don't know the word for it. It's just something we've seen before felt very slenderman
esque
Yeah, that's a good way to explain it and it's it's like a naked slenderman
with hair
Yeah
Yeah, I can absolutely match it. It sucks
Yeah, if and i'm putting it into the wrong slot jonathan you dumbass
it almost felt like a
Not as well done version of the painting
That we got in it chapter two
So yeah, that's fair
All right, last up we got our own personal score so rose you want to take this one I would love to so
um
Honestly, I wouldn't say I was shocked by how much I I enjoyed this movie. Um, but just
It was a very genuinely good horror movie. Um, I had a really good time with this movie
Um, it was scary when it needed to be
Um, which was basically the whole freaking movie and that entity at the end still was going to haunt my dreams forever
um
Now mostly acting was solid. Um
And the premise is just really really really interesting. I really really enjoy the premise. Um, so
Yeah, um, i'm glad that I didn't see this in theaters. Um, just because um, I don't know how I would have reacted
I'd be honestly
Uh petrified and uh, honestly if I did would have seen this in theaters
One I would have taken christina with me and two, uh, we probably wouldn't be talking to this very day. Um
so
Yeah
Because I literally brought up to her what was it last night? I'm just like hey you want to have a movie night
She's like, yeah, I would love that. You know, we would definitely you know, like, uh put me in a good mood
I'm like, okay awesome. She's like, hey, what are we gonna watch? I'm like smile and she's like
I hate you
Like yeah, do you do you typically try to watch whatever movie we're breaking down with her
Yeah, I try to
That's awesome. Yeah
Um
So yeah, uh, so overall
Overall or my sorry my personal score
I'm gonna go into 84. Uh, no, i'm sorry 83
I I have very mixed feelings about this movie
and
It absolutely did its job in in creating dread and terror
And I cannot fault it for that
Like even though it's not my own my personal taste in music or in non-music in in movies
it's
It performed its its job excellently
and
Like I said, I appreciate that what I cannot stand and honestly what?
kind of
Ruins this movie
Ruins this movie for me is cheap jump scares
There's nothing I hate more than a cheap jump scare
Like and
It's aggravating because it's like you have
such
genuine fear
Like that was entering my body and then it was instantly replaced with anger because i'm just like
Screw you dude
Like if you would have just kept the dread and the terror going and just use different imagery like
The scariest shit that I think i've ever seen and I like refuse to watch to this day our friend christian
his
Older brother had a friend that worked on this project called lights out. It was it eventually got turned into like a
A full feature thing, right? Or was it just a short? Okay. So yeah, it turned into like a full feature thing
That scare
Is honestly probably my favorite scare of all time
it was
The like he was like turning the lights on and off
It was just light on and then light off and then you'd see this like creature or this this
Figure standing and then
At the very end he like goes to turn off
Like turn on a lamp
And he turns it like what's it he turns it on and then he sees the face
Yeah, I think it's so so yeah
Like the guy's like headed to bed or something I think and he keeps you know like flipping off this
I think like his hallway switch and he just keeps
Seeing the entity for some reason i'm getting freaking goosebumps just talking about this one, too
I know I have to walk to my room in the dark and i'm oh i'm sorry, man
scary myself
But yeah
So he keeps flipping the switch back and forth on and off and he keeps seeing the entity
And then I think like one of the final last switches like he doesn't see it anymore
And so you know like he goes to bed and then as he's tur I think um, he turns over
uh
Uh, oh my god, I'm so freaking goosebumps here. He turns over and all of a sudden the entity like turns on the light and you just see like the
like
The face is just like ah and it just freaking cuts
Actually, I think
Unless you're like, you know, you're very you're very close. I think so it's like the hallway thing
He does it and then he like eventually like turns the light on
Or he turns the light off and then like the entities there
He turns the hallway light on gone and then turns it off and then the guy's still gone
And so he's like, okay goes back to bed
And then he like sees the entities like standing
in his doorway
And then he turns the light on and it's gone
And then he goes to like
Like leaning over to turn the light off and then the entity's sitting there and he's like creepy face and then turns the light off
And then end yeah, that's what it is. Yeah
Is my
favorite
scare in the world
Because it's done so well and it's because it's not done cheap it is yeah it
First off it earns if you wanted to scream in my ear
It totally would have earned it but it doesn't it stays silent it keeps the entire tone of the scene and it just
Just kind of all all the all the camera does it just pans over a little bit and you see the face and then boom off
Yep
like
the best
The that is just chef's kiss and scare
This is what that movie could have been
If it got rid of all the cheap jump scares
Like I said filled me with genuine dread genuine terror but ruined it by pissing me off
You know what fair enough man fair enough oh
so I think
Personally like this is not something I will
ever rewatch
Because like we have stated i'm a bit of a pussy
And like I said cannot stand cheap jumpscare, so i'm i'm sitting a 78 with this one
As close to an 80 as I can
Get
Feeling good about it
Um
But yeah
But anyway
That will conclude
This week's breakdown and going through each of the categories
our story
started off
Pretty strong a little bit above average sitting at an 83.5
The writing dropped down just a hair for us sitting at an 81
The acting dropped down just a little bit more sitting at a solid 80
The logic for this film jumped up a ton because it followed its rules
excellently sitting at a solid 95
The effects dropped back down a little bit sitting at an 84
The music
Nothing to gawk at but it was like the uses of silence was was pretty good
So sitting at a solid seven costumes fairly bland the character design for the entity was
Good enough
So like sitting at a six for that and then our personal score averaged out to an 80.5
So that makes the final all bros letter grade for smile
Come to a
B
Nice I love it. It's a good score
Yeah, it's
It's a pretty
Solid b as well like our cutoff for a b is 83
Okay, and
This scored an 84 percent
Nice, okay
Yeah, so I think this is the first time or at least one of our b movies scored
Like this, so let me
Just do some reorganization. Yeah, so this is like our first solid
84 like it's not 84 point anything. It's just 84
I like it. Hell. Yeah
Yeah, so this is
Yeah, so that puts it below free guy
Which is at an eighty four point zero six
Uh puts it below solo which was at an eighty four point two one
Uh puts it below avengers age of ultron, which is at an eighty four point three seven
Puts it below prey which is at an eighty four point four three and then finally puts it below black atom
Which is at an eighty four point five
Now heading the opposite direction
Smile ended up above thor ragnarok, which is at an eighty three point nine zero
Which wow I i'll give you that
Yeah
Um puts it above murder on the or murder of the orient express is it murder on?
Yeah, it's murder on
Why do I have murder of?
Murder on the orient express sitting in an eighty three point eight one
This might be one I slightly
Okay, it's above sonic the hedgehog which is at an eighty three point eight one
Yeah, i'm sorry I gotta disagree with I would I I would disagree with that
Yeah, I mean the margins are super close. It's like point two percent
Okay
Um, let's see it puts it above home alone, which is at an eighty three point six four
And then finally puts it above lady and the tramp 2019 which is at an eighty three point five one
Okay
Not bad
Not bad. Yeah, not bad at all
It's got a good home
Yeah, the sonic the hedgehog one is a little bit of a tough pill to swallow
But I do understand that because I think we docked pretty heavily on like effects with that one
Okay, that in character development
Like I said if i'm remembering right but who knows I don't man that was in 2020
I try not to remember that year
Yeah
Actually, I am curious to see i'm just gonna go back in
If I can find it
Okay, yeah, like we gave the effects pretty high
We gave the writing a little bit low
The character development was really low music was really low
So yeah makes sense
Okay
Yeah, I think it was just the logic that bumped it up significantly like I think if we would have dropped the the logic a little bit more
It would have
Evened out, but I mean you can't argue with the logic being way better than sonic's character development
Yeah, no, that's fair
But anyway
But that will conclude
this week's breakdown
We hope you guys enjoyed this and if you guys went to see this movie, I hope we hope you enjoyed the movie as well
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Um, so with that next week
We will be breaking down disney plus's new movie disenchanted
Um, I have already watched this movie and
thoughts
Yeah, he's got some thoughts. I have not yet. I haven't even seen the first one enchanted
Um, so i'm gonna get to do a double movie marathon. So it can be very interesting to see if I agree or disagree with him
Yeah, highly recommend a double feature on this one
Okay, cool
Um
So yeah, you guys can look forward to that next week
And until then this has been the all bros podcast. I'm caleb
And i'm jonathan and we'll catch you guys next time deuces
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coward
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