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What's up bros?

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I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan.

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We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out

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there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the All Bros.

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This week on the podcast we have one new movie coming out in 4k spotlight that we are very

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excited about.

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Rose not as much as I am, just because there's going to be two that he's probably going to

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end up buying.

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I don't know man.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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And then we are going to go through the news of James Gunn's DC Universe plans real quick.

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We don't have a whole lot of thoughts on everything.

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Like we're excited.

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But we're just going to go through that real quick.

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And then for this week's headliner we will be breaking down Nightmare Alley.

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We were going to be breaking down Bullet Train, but we had to put that on hold for a very

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good reason.

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So you guys can look forward to hearing that next week.

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But with that, let's say we get into this week's episode.

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Let's do it.

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Starting off with 4K spotlight, Rose, would you like to tell everyone why you're going

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to be spending a lot of money this week?

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I'm going to try not to.

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I think I'm going to try to just get one steelbook, but we'll see if I can do that.

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We'll see if the collector inside me lets me do that.

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Anyway, so this week, Black Panther, Wakanda Forever comes to 4K and Blu-ray.

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And because Disney and Marvel decided to say, fuck you, Rose, they decided to release two

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versions of the steelbook to Best Buy.

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One is the Wakanda steelbook, you know, with Shuri, Okoye, Mbakku, everyone like that on

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the cover, but what is weird and not even on the back is Shuri's Black Panther costume.

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It's nowhere on the steelbook.

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It's really freaking weird.

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But whatever.

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And then the other steelbook they're releasing is of, it's Talokan, right?

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Talokan.

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Talokan.

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They're releasing a Talokan steelbook.

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So they're releasing a Wakanda steelbook and a Talokan steelbook.

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It's freaking bullshit.

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I hate you, Disney.

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I hate you, Marvel.

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Why you gotta do this to me?

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I hate you.

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Damn, you're bitter.

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I know.

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But, well, come on, man.

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Have you freaking seen how much steelbooks are?

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The Talokan steelbook is sick.

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It is.

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I think it's better than the Wakanda one.

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Dude, they did the exact same thing for the Black Panther or the Wakanda one.

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I don't know why they didn't.

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I mean, it's like, the Talokan version is just like, it's super artsy fartsy and it

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looks freaking sick as shit.

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It does.

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But the Wakanda Forever, they just like, they dropped the ball.

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What is your title character over here?

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The Wakanda one reminds me a lot of the Spider-Man Far From Home steelbook and that's not a

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good thing.

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Because I get it.

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I mean, I got that steelbook, of course, but out of like the Tom Holland trilogy Spider-Mans,

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it's my least favorite steelbook by far.

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That's fair.

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You are a freaking steelbook slut.

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That I am.

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That I am.

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Yep.

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I'm the kind of person that will literally look through every single one that's at the

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store just to make sure that there's no spine slit or everything.

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That is my biggest thing I hate so much is spine slits.

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Next is dents, but spine slits are the freaking worst because some people do not know how

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to open a freaking box.

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That's the only reason that that happens.

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You don't take your box cutter and dig it deep into the box and then freaking cut it,

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yet ever so slightly, because I'm sure it says like, it's got to say like freaking fragile

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or some shit on the box, right?

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I hope so.

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Dude, fragile doesn't mean dick on a box.

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There was this dude who was shipping paints and stuff, and he would put fragile on the

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boxes when he was shipping stuff, and then they'd get to the place damaged.

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He's just like, everyone that he put fragile on, and he says, and then one time I forgot

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to put fragile on it, and it came in perfect condition.

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Then he put fragile on it, the post office just like, fuck you.

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Then when he tested something because he found out that he was shipping it wrong because

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it was paint, and so he had to put, instead of fragile, he had to put a paint stamp on

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it.

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He said, I thought you were going to say he had to put fragile instead.

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Freaking dumb.

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No, so he would put paint on it, and he says that the paint ones would always get there

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in perfect condition.

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He says, because they know if the paint freaking breaks, they have to clean it up.

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He says the fragile is just like, hey, be careful with this.

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Hey, don't tell me what to do, and then they go and break it.

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He says then the normal boxes, he says, they don't really give a shit about, so it's just

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like a hit and miss.

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He says the paint ones they're super careful with because they don't want to clean it up.

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Like if it-

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Freaking hilarious.

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Yeah, if it like busts, and so he's like, yeah, I put paint on everything now.

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He says even if I'm not shipping paint, I put a paint stamp on it.

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That's hilarious.

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That's smart.

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I got to remember that.

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That's genius.

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Yeah, anyway, so yeah, Best Buy, two steel books because Marvel and Disney hates us.

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You got a bare bones 4K release and a Blu-ray release, but then you are also getting a Disney

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movie club exclusive Blu-ray slip cover, or I'm assuming it's a slip cover.

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I don't think it's just like the regular Blu-ray, but it's the- so do you remember how the teaser

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poster was?

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It was like Chadwick Boseman's Black Panther mask, but it was like a complete black background

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and so yeah.

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So it's the exact same thing, but this time it's Shuri's Black Panther mask.

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Yeah, I can say I should really- yeah, it's simple, but I love it.

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Hell I would have taken that for, say that was maybe the back of the steel book or some

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shit like that.

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I would have taken that.

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That would have been cool.

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Dude, there's no excuse.

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They just got lazy.

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Yeah, true.

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Like they worked so hard on the Talokhan and they probably were like, hey, we need the

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Wakanda one done like now and they're like, oh shit, and just slap something together.

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They're just like, okay, M'Baku goes here, blow up Shuri, let's put Nikia- wait, it's

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Nikia right?

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Okay, we'll put her in the bottom left corner, Okoye will blow her up a little bit, but not

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bigger than M'Baku, bam, there we go.

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Yeah, no excuse.

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That was just pure laziness.

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Dude, even the freaking Walmart one is better.

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I didn't even know they were doing a Walmart one.

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So I like that one a lot.

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So it's, so it doesn't have any like of them, it doesn't have Shuri's Black Panther on it,

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but that's fine because like, you know how like some posters will do like the two main

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characters like at the top blown up just their heads and then below is like the ensemble

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cast?

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Yeah.

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So that's what the Walmart one does.

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So it has Shuri and Neymar on the top and then it has M'Baku, Okoye, Nikia, and I don't

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know why Angela Bassett's character is escaping my brain right now.

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The Queen?

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Yeah, Queen Ramonda.

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Yeah, Ramonda, Queen Ramonda.

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Thank you.

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I'm sorry.

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So I started sitting on her throne with the others right by her.

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Then like freaking you got some like awesome like designs in the back of like Wakandan designs

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and then, oh my, Talcon.

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Thank you.

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So, designs and then what makes this one special is you get a limited edition enamel pin that

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just looks like the Black Panther logo, but it's still cool.

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It's pretty cool.

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I honestly think this actually looks better than the Wakanda steelbook.

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I'm really picking on that steelbook, but it's not that good.

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And it sucks because like they're releasing a Black, they're releasing another Black Panther

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4k steelbook to coincide with the second one.

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And like that one looks just so much better.

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Like honestly, they could have the way that one is literally they could have done the

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exact same thing because it has, so has Okoye, Shuri, Daniel Kaluwis character.

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I forget his name in the movie, Nikia, and then Killmonger and then like blowing up is

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Chow Boseman's Black Panther.

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Literally just replace, just put Shuri's Black Panther and then just put like the rest of

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the main characters in the places of these guys.

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But like also keep it the like the like silver look that they're going with this with like

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the black and purple background and the tree in the back.

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That would have been perfect for the Black Panther, the freaking Wakanda steelbook.

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That would have made so much more sense, but whatever.

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So it's really sad that the first Black Panther steelbook is that's coming out on Tuesday

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looks better than the freaking sequel one.

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Yeah, dude, I would have kept it freaking basic as shit.

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Yeah, the steelbook like I would have gone with a like the the fabric pattern of the

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Black Panther suit of Shuri suit, like with maybe some of those highlights throughout

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the entire steelbook and then done her like a side profile of her mask and then just the

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smaller images of everyone else down below.

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See, like it a bit.

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There we go.

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Easy.

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Freaking yeah, no excuses.

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Just lazy.

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Very lazy.

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Um, but yeah, that that's it for 4k.

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Yeah.

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So you guys want to pick up Black Panther Wakanda forever.

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Those are your options and you got a shit ton like goddamn.

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Hell yeah.

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All right.

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Moving on over to through the wall.

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The only bit of news is today as of like when we're recording, um, we got an announcement

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for the what James Gunn plans to do with the DC universe.

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And I got to say nothing he's discussed is sounds bad.

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Like none of it.

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I agree.

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So he is separating.

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He's making like a distinct separation between what is his DC universe and what he is now

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calling else world.

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So I know within the MCU he had like they have like their kind of separation.

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They have the stuff that's considered Marvel Studios and that's like within the MCU and

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then they have their Marvel legacy stuff.

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So that includes like anything pre Iron Man.

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That's like this Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies.

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I mean actually technically those could be MCU now.

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That's true.

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Same thing with the amazing Spider-Man movies.

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So it's like anything Marvel related prior to the first Iron Man and like I think some

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content is now considered Marvel legacy.

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What they're doing with the DC universe is everything will be under a DC universe flag

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and then anything that's like considered a one-off story or anything that's not tied

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in to the overall picture of James Gunn's universe will be marked as DC else worlds.

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So that will include Zack Snyder's universe and any other movie like that will be where

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Matt Reeves Batman will be put the Joker will be put there.

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So anything that's not related to the DC universe will be marked as else worlds.

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And James Gunn said that they're pushing forward with the releases of like everything that's

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been in works.

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So we're going to be getting Shazam Fury of the Gods.

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We're going to be getting Blue Beetle.

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We're going to be getting Aquaman 2 and all that.

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So he's like that most important one.

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The Flash.

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Oh, dude, I've had so much shit spoiled about the Flash for me.

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Like I'm a yeah.

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And it's freaking pop.

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It's freaking Funko that spoiled it.

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Oh, yeah, dude.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Same here.

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You're thinking of just like leaks online.

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But yeah, I know if it's Funko.

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Same here, man.

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So this so he released that or he said that that's what the release is going to be for

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the next like few years or next couple of years.

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But by 2025, they will be full blown in DC Universe mode.

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And he says that everything is going to tie into one big picture.

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When they cast people, they're going to cast the people to be in the animated shows or

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movies that they do playing like that character.

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It is it.

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They said it will be one actor for everything.

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I love that idea so much.

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And I'm like, they might even consider doing like tie in video games to these.

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And I'm like, that's frickin dope.

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That's very dope.

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So let's see the so the things that were announced.

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The first thing is a thing called Creature Commandos.

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So they have so it's going to be an animated show and it's just basically monsters.

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But it's centered around Rick Flagg Sr.

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And so that's like the Creature Commandos are going to it's it's basically just a superhero

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team of monsters because they have someone called Dr. Phosphorus, Eric Frankenstein,

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the Bride of Frankenstein, a GI robot and Weasel.

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All right.

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I'm down for anything with Weasel.

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So yeah, so that's going to be an animated series, probably going to be released on HBO

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Max, which is awesome.

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And a lot of the characters from these animated shows are going to make live action appearances

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and they're going to be played by the people that voice them.

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So I'm very excited for that.

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Same here.

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The next show that they are pushing is called Waller.

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It's going to star Viola Davis.

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It's a live action show and this is just kind of a placeholder between Peacemaker season

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one and two.

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And it's mostly because James Gunn said, like, I haven't had time to work on Peacemaker season

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two.

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That's all right.

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Hey, you know, kudos to him for telling it out right.

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So, I mean, they have like a great team behind it.

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It's going to be the executive producer behind Doom Patrol, which Doom Patrol is incredible.

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And then they have a writer from Watchmen.

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That's going to be on it, the series.

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So super pumped for that.

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Next up, they have a another TV show called Lanterns.

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That will be a detective mystery show based around Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart.

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So that's going to be incredible.

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I can't wait to see these.

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I can't believe we're going to get both of these on in one show.

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That's going to be super dope.

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Next up is Paradise Lost, which is a Wonder Woman prequel that's going to be a Game of

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Thrones style Themyscira.

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And it's so what he said, it's going to be a, like I said, Game of Thrones style show,

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but it's going to explore the political game between Themyscira and what society of women

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do in order to gain power.

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So I think that's going to be really cool.

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I'm intrigued.

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And then the last show that he announced was Booster Gold, which is a time traveling superhero.

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And so he in his timeline or in his like time, he's like a loser, but he traveled back in

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time with tech from the future and becomes a superhero.

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And it's supposed to be him dealing with imposter syndrome.

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So I think that will be really interesting because I really like Booster Gold, at least

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from what I've seen.

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And so I think this is going to be at all.

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So yeah, I mean, he's kind of not like it's hard to explain who he is.

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He's just kind of one of those like really not well known heroes.

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Like I think he showed up in like maybe one episode of Justice League Unlimited.

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Oh, damn.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So it's not a super popular character, but I feel after the series, he's going to be

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very popular.

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So that's all that we got in terms of TV shows, which I'm assuming are all going to be put

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on HBO Max.

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And then the movies, the first movie within the DC universe will be released in July of

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2025.

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And it's going to be Superman Legacy.

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And it's going to be focusing on the struggle between Superman's work life balance, like

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being a superhero and his human side.

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So that'll be really interesting.

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And they're going like as old fashioned as they can, where he serves with kindness, like

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that whole deal.

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So that'll be fun.

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The next show that we're or movie will get is called The Authority.

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And it kind of has an Eternals vibe to it.

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I'm cool with that.

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Yeah, so it's going to be exploring these anti heroes who will go to whatever lengths

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necessary to fix what the broken world are.

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So I think that that one's going to be really cool.

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I think that's going to be like the next Guardians.

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Yeah, I can agree with that.

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All right, the next movie will be the brave and the bold, which will be a Batman and Robin

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story, which is freaking awesome.

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This will be focusing on the Damien Wayne Robin, which is my personal favorite Robin.

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And James Guion is hoping that this will lead into the Bat family.

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So that's going to include Dick Grayson, Nightwing, Jason Todd's, Red Hood, like all that good

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stuff.

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But cool, like our first on screen Robin that's actually good is going to be Damien Wayne.

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And I could not be more excited about that.

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Oh, it says that it will actually feature other members of the Bat family.

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Nice.

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It will not.

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They so Batman will not be played by either Robert Pattinson or Ben Affleck.

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So this is we will be getting a brand new Batman.

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Cool.

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Okay.

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I'm okay with that.

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Yeah, so I'm super pumped.

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Next we have or the next movie will be Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow.

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And this will be based off of a comic series written by Tom King, who is actually working

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on this film.

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So he will have a direct say.

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So I am so excited.

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So this is actually exploring a different side of Supergirl.

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Like we're not going to get the happy go lucky Supergirl.

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Like we're going to have a Supergirl that's been through some shit.

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I'm all for that.

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Yeah.

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So like what they're focusing on is like Superman is being raised on earth with like really

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like kind parents and raised with love, but Supergirl is living on a piece of broken Krypton

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and basically have to watch her loved ones die.

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Geez.

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So I bet that I hope that there's probably going to be like a survival aspect to this

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movie.

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I'm pumped for this.

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Like I didn't know like I like Supergirl and all.

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I think she's cool, but I have she's just too giddy for me.

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And so this version of her sounds awesome.

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I cannot wait for this version to get released.

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And then the last movie that we're going to get is Swamp Thing.

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And so James Gunn said that this will be like straight up horror.

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Yes, I love it.

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Yeah.

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So I'm really pumped.

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I love what they're planning so far.

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James Gunn has said that and like this is going to be chapters to an overarching story.

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And so the first chapter that they're going with is called Gods and Monsters.

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And so that's what like Superman Legacy will be the first movie within Gods and Monsters.

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So it's going to be really interesting to see where these people fall in line because

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I'm assuming Superman and Batman are going to be falling into like the Gods category.

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Probably.

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And I throw Batman in there because I think Batman is just going to be viewed as like

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a symbol.

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It's not going to be like that's like what I think.

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It's going to be like the symbol of Batman.

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But I think we're going to get thrown a curveball with Supergirl.

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I don't think Supergirl is going to be like all good.

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You know what I could see that and I am absolutely all for that.

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Yeah.

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And then obviously Swamp Thing and I'm assuming the authority with them being anti-heroes

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and stuff are going to be on the monsters side.

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Yeah.

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That would make sense.

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So I am super pumped for the future of the DC universe and honestly I hope that DC has

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like a reigning dynasty.

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That'd be awesome.

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Yeah.

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Like I like I root for both teams.

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I'm a little bit more of a Marvel fanboy and it's just because I know the characters a

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little bit better.

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But I want both sides to succeed.

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I love anything and everything superhero.

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And so being able to go to these and actually see something that is good in terms like with

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DC is going to be amazing.

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So I am very excited for what they're doing and I can't wait to see future news about

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this.

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Like especially when like I'm pumped for casting.

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Like I want to see who I want to see how Jordan and Jon Stewart are going to be played by.

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I want to see who Booster Gold is going to be played by.

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I want to know who our new Superman is going to be.

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I want to know Batman Robin.

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I want to know Supergirl Swamp.

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I want to know all of that stuff.

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So I'm so excited.

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Well yeah so that's everything in DC news.

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Went about a little longer than I thought we were going to and that is purely my fault.

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It's all good man.

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It's all good.

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Did you have anything regarding this that you wanted to talk about?

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Actually just because I don't know the I don't really know the not franchises but the I guess

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the characters or there's a word that I'm looking for here and I can't think of it.

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Oh I don't know these properties.

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Well like all I know is just Batman and Superman out of everything they said like a little

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bit of swamp thing but not that much.

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So I don't really have a lot of say I feel about this but I mean I'm very interested

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to see what he does considering that I feel this is so different than what the DC movies

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have been thus far.

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So no I'm very intrigued to see what James Gunn does.

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Yeah same here.

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All right well since I'm done with that rant.

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Let's say it was a rant.

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Anyway let's say we get into this week's headliner.

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Let's do it.

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All righty getting into this week's headliner we will be breaking down Nightmare Alley.

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So for those of you that are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different

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categories that we individually score to come to a final Albrows letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

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music, costumes and then we give our own personal score at the very end.

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All those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm that gives us a

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movie or a movie.

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It gives us a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade as well

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as a percentage so we can see what our ranking is.

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So with that if you have not seen Nightmare Alley I highly recommend highly recommend

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you go check this out.

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It is currently available to watch on HBO Max and just do yourself a favor and go watch

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it.

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It is really freaking good like we will be getting into.

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So if you listen past this point and have anything spoiled for you it is your own fault.

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So with that comes our favorite segment Reading with Rose with 2E.

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I'm going to pay you to say that.

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Is it your favorite segment because I always screw it up most of the time?

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Yeah pretty much.

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Fair.

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Fair enough.

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Alright.

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In 1939 drifter Stan Carlisle obtains a job at a carnival and watches a geek show in which

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a deranged man eats a live chicken.

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He begins working with the clairvoyant acts starring Madame Xena and her alcoholic husband

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Pete.

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They use coded language and cold reading tricks which Pete keeps in a secret book.

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Pete teaches tricks to Stan warning him against using them to pretend to speak to the dead.

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Stan also learns that the owner, Clem, hires troubled alcoholics to be his geeks then gives

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them opium laced alcohol so that they stay.

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Stan becomes attracted to fellow performer Molly and asks for her to leave the carnival

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with him but she refuses.

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One night Pete asks Stan for alcohol and is later found dead.

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Stan saves the carnival using his cold reading skills to convince the sheriff not to close

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it.

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He agrees to leave the carnival with Stan to whom Xena has given Peter's book.

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Two years later Stan has successfully reinvented himself with a psychic act for the wealthy

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elite of Buffalo with Molly as his assistant.

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During a performance their act is interrupted by psychologist Dr. Lilith Ritter who attempts

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to expose the rigid act.

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Stan bests and humiliates Ritter with his cold reading skills.

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Ritter also cold reads Judge Kimball, the judge offers to pay Stan for a private consultation

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to help him and his wife communicate with their dead son.

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Despite Molly's objections Stan agrees.

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Ritter arranges a meeting with Stan to exchange the information.

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If he is truthful about his background she will give him information on Kimball.

489
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,620
During their session she learns Stan may have killed Pete and also that his alcoholic father

490
00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:04,620
neglected him as a child.

491
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:08,780
With Ritter's information Stan performs a successful reading for Kimball.

492
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:12,580
He offers to split the profits with Ritter but she refuses agreeing to keep the money

493
00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:15,060
in her care to hide it from Molly.

494
00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:19,700
Stan informs Ritter that Kimball has offered to introduce him to Ezra Grindle a former

495
00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:21,140
patient of Ritter's.

496
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:26,960
She feeds Stan information about Grindle's past namely how he forced an abortion on a

497
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,820
young woman named Dory.

498
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:33,480
Stan and Ritter begin a romantic relationship and he begins drinking.

499
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,180
Ritter continues to hold sessions with Grindle who demands that Stan make Dory's spirit

500
00:34:37,180 --> 00:34:39,940
materialize in a seance.

501
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:43,260
Stan agrees and plans to have Molly pose as Dory from afar.

502
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:51,780
Meanwhile Judge Kimball's wife murders her husband and commits suicide to be reunited

503
00:34:51,780 --> 00:34:55,860
with their son whom Stan said was waiting for them.

504
00:34:55,860 --> 00:35:00,220
Molly initially refuses but relents with the promise of being able to leave Stan as she

505
00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:01,760
cooperates.

506
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,100
During the act Grindle realizes it is a scam.

507
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:09,100
He hits Molly and threatens Stan.

508
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:13,140
Stan beats Grindle to death and runs over Grindle's bodyguard with his car.

509
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:15,160
Horrified Molly leaves.

510
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Stan arrives at Ritter's office to obtain his money but she betrays him with depleted

511
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,720
money rolls stuffed with dollar bills.

512
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:25,740
Ritter blows off part of his ear with a pistol and taunts him.

513
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:28,380
He attacks her but security arrives and he escapes.

514
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:33,180
A flashback reveals that he killed his father by intentionally exposing him to hypothermia

515
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:35,540
before burning his house down.

516
00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:40,300
As he descends into alcoholism and despair while traveling the hollow circuit Stan sees

517
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,440
ads touting Madame Xena.

518
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,820
Stan finds a new carnival and as he talks to the owner he spies an embalmed freak in

519
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:52,140
a jar on his desk and the owner explains he purchased it from the old carnival which Stan

520
00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:55,780
used to belong to which had disbanded.

521
00:35:55,780 --> 00:36:00,780
Realizing he is not going to find Madame Xena and Molly again Stan desperately pitches his

522
00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:07,220
mentalist act to the carnival owner who rejects it based on his unkempt appearance and the

523
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:09,120
act being out of fashion.

524
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,640
The owner then changes his mind and offers him a drink and temporary work as a geek using

525
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,740
the same language Clem used to lure alcoholics many years ago.

526
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:23,020
Realizing his fate Stan accepts the offer tearfully telling the owner that he was born

527
00:36:23,020 --> 00:36:26,740
for it and he snaps and breaks down laughing.

528
00:36:26,740 --> 00:36:39,900
Dude this movie I don't know what the trailers were very deceptive in like a good way I will

529
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:46,060
say I can't remember if I ever saw any of the trailers the only thing that I'm remembering

530
00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:52,380
of this movie was when it was released on blu ray and I remember seeing the steelbook

531
00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:55,900
and I'm just like holy shit that looks so freaking cool because like the front is just

532
00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:08,620
of um oh my god how did I just forget his name Bradley can Stan Bradley Cooper right

533
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:14,740
that's a pleasant yeah yeah it's a Stan Bradley Cooper just like right on the front he's the

534
00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:18,260
only one there and like he's wearing his like classic you know like what he wears throughout

535
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:24,180
the movie well not throughout the movie but you know like his hat his coat everything

536
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:28,420
he straight up looks like a detective so that's what you get from it that's what I thought

537
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:32,580
about this what what this movie was going to be and like Caleb said it is nothing it

538
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:38,860
is not like that at all nothing like that um not even a little bit and I like that's

539
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:45,940
what made this movie really good dude it even like put out the vibes in the trailer like

540
00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:51,340
I actually I might have to go back and like re-watch the trailers because I remember seeing

541
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:57,660
like maybe one trailer about this and I wasn't too interested and it was because it came

542
00:37:57,660 --> 00:38:04,380
off like it was some sort of like murder mystery and I was just kind of like eh okay whatever

543
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:12,500
like you kind of seen one you've seen them all but true yeah they they did not market

544
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:22,860
this correctly no and I think it was solely because of the hat dude straight up who would

545
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:36,380
have thought a hat could convey so much yeah but oh my gosh this film was so good it like

546
00:38:36,380 --> 00:38:47,180
this just like getting straight into the story it was incredible to see like you knew that

547
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:55,940
that Stan was a shady character from the get-go he like you like it opens up with him burning

548
00:38:55,940 --> 00:39:03,900
a house then or like taking a body dropping it into a pit and then lighting the pit on

549
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:11,540
fire so you you're under the assumption that he murdered somebody and you are absolutely

550
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:18,620
correct on that assumption and so it starts off with that then he walks into town and

551
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:24,940
he's trying to catch a bus but he sees a little person and so he follows the little person

552
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:33,980
to the circus or this yeah like this little is that is that considered a circus that's

553
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:41,580
not like full circus that's like that's freak like a freak show right I think so because

554
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:47,460
word there were there any rides I mean there was like a carousel and stuff but I don't

555
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:55,700
think there was like a like rides okay and yeah I don't know maybe it is isn't considered

556
00:39:55,700 --> 00:40:01,620
a full on circus then maybe back then it was yeah that's what I'm thinking I mean they

557
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:11,220
didn't have animals but it was like a trip maybe like a sideshow okay anything so they

558
00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:19,260
had like kind of circus acts like they had the strong man they had like a hairy like

559
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:25,740
a really hairy man like I guess I like a wolf man and then they had like a geek which is

560
00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:37,940
just some like madman yeah but so he runs into these people he goes to see this geek

561
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:47,100
show and then he tries to like slip out and then he goes to like get work like helping

562
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:57,620
them tear down and then it's Clem the owner played by Willem Dafoe who asks him to like

563
00:40:57,620 --> 00:41:02,580
basically join them like hey you like tells him what he'll have like hey we don't really

564
00:41:02,580 --> 00:41:12,380
care what your what your background is like you can help around here and we'll pay you

565
00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:17,700
good like you have a place to sleep you'll have food all all this good stuff and he's

566
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:26,300
like all right like cool and we know he's running away from something yeah like we were

567
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:30,140
we're led to believe for a majority of the film that it's like a just straight up murder

568
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:44,940
yeah but yeah he joins this he picks up some tricks from like a mentalist and yeah just

569
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,260
kind of goes from there and then he's like sharing his ideas which are actually like

570
00:41:48,260 --> 00:41:57,500
solid ideas from like to the rest of the the gang now I'm on how to improve their shows

571
00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:04,040
and make it more dramatic because he just has this this sense for the like has a flair

572
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:11,660
like to add a little something onto it to make things more popular and it it seems to

573
00:42:11,660 --> 00:42:21,080
work I'll fully admit like his whole idea with like the whole electricity bit with Molly

574
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:32,860
not a bad idea like very very creative definitely added to it yeah definitely so yeah it just

575
00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:40,420
kind of goes from there and it's it's really interesting so it like it takes off like kind

576
00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:45,180
of gives you a really good origin on how he gets into like this mentalist act and then

577
00:42:45,180 --> 00:42:51,980
the movie shifts to completely and like one of the things that the guy so Pete is the

578
00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:57,980
the man that teaches him some of the tricks of the trade at least when it comes to like

579
00:42:57,980 --> 00:43:06,500
mentalism and it's something that that that man had like not done it like didn't perform

580
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:15,540
it for himself like it wasn't part of the their act anymore but he was talking about

581
00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:22,100
the dangers of it and how he was like oh I get into this like you start to believe your

582
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:31,060
own bullshit and that that's when things become dangerous and like you're playing a con and

583
00:43:31,060 --> 00:43:40,260
one of the big warnings that they they put out is never do a oh what's the term that

584
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:49,620
they use a spook show like no come communicating with the dead no like none of that that stuff

585
00:43:49,620 --> 00:43:54,660
because it just leads to trouble and it and that's like exactly the route that he took

586
00:43:54,660 --> 00:44:01,500
it it was just pure mentalism until he was challenged and then it turned into like a

587
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:09,660
spook show for very important people and it just was so good and then like it started

588
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:16,100
like progressively getting like more and just like he was digging himself a grave like very

589
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:23,700
very slowly and then by the time like all like hell breaks loose like you know how deep

590
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:30,980
into this pit he is and you're just like freaking called it dude like you screwed yourself yeah

591
00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:44,780
no fault but your own but I loved how they they tied in or like kind of combined the

592
00:44:44,780 --> 00:45:00,500
two tragedies where it was oh what's his name I judge Kimball Ezra like Ezra Grindle so

593
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:05,780
Ezra Grindle is the one that's trying to communicate with his past lover or something like that

594
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:13,620
yeah yeah so it's like once once shit hits the fan there and it's like right before it

595
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:21,660
does so like right before shit hits the fan you see his previous victim judge Kimball

596
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:31,140
and his wife like with a whole murder suicide with them and you're just like oh shit and

597
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:39,180
then yeah and then shit hits the fan with Grindle and you're just like oh balls like

598
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:44,860
one bad thing after another it was insane yeah and then he goes on the run he's like

599
00:45:44,860 --> 00:45:50,740
he's a wanted man we assume I wouldn't even know if he would be a wanted man because it's

600
00:45:50,740 --> 00:46:00,540
like I mean the Dr. Ritter would have had to like turn him in so I mean I guess he could

601
00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:05,660
like was a was a wanted man so he kind of went on the run ended up at this this show

602
00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:10,420
and it just like did you know that it was going to end up where he was going to become

603
00:46:10,420 --> 00:46:19,140
a geek or no I didn't like for a minute that actually like for so it took me a minute to

604
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:24,100
actually like put like um comprehend like everything that just happened like once the

605
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:31,300
credit started rolling I'm like okay that just happened it went like full circle for

606
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:37,020
him all right I can't I like that just for some reason it took me a minute to like I

607
00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:42,100
think like not halfway through the credits but like after we watched the credits for

608
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:47,420
a little bit and we finally we started talking about after we finished it then like I'm like

609
00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:54,820
okay finally makes sense it's clicking into my head because I'm a little slow with some

610
00:46:54,820 --> 00:47:04,340
movie plots yeah like I fit like one of the things that just kind of really helped me

611
00:47:04,340 --> 00:47:13,580
figure out where movies are going to go is this idea and I think it was actually the

612
00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:20,700
failing Hollywood that and that said this it's in movies if someone pulls out a gun

613
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:27,300
and puts it on a table by the end of that movie the gun has to go off right nothing

614
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:34,980
is put into a movie on accident or for no reason usually there are some cases where

615
00:47:34,980 --> 00:47:41,780
that may be true but for the most part like if a story is well written things that are

616
00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:50,580
said at the beginning tie into shit that happens at the end and so when Clem and Stan were

617
00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:59,100
sitting at the diner right after they had just dropped off that geek at the hospital

618
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:05,980
or nunnery or wherever the hell they dropped him off so for those of you that don't know

619
00:48:05,980 --> 00:48:15,240
the geek is like this the madman of the this show their geek got injured and so they dropped

620
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:22,260
him off and at the doorstep of like a nunnery and left him I just freaking balanced and

621
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:33,180
so they go and have they go to get food and Clem is explaining what the process of getting

622
00:48:33,180 --> 00:48:43,380
geeks is like he says we get like we we he basically admits that he preys on these vulnerable

623
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:50,180
people like these homeless people that have nowhere else to go that are drinking like

624
00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:56,300
two bottles a day and are just like off their mind he takes them in kind of gives them a

625
00:48:56,300 --> 00:49:01,980
home just says hey like I can offer you a like it's steady job it's only temporary and

626
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:09,020
then gets them hooked on opioids and they get to the point where eventually they start

627
00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:14,860
to do just crazier and crazier and crazier things and like one of the things that he

628
00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:22,660
says is like basically eating a live chicken like he is like eventually they're they'll

629
00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:30,020
eat the chicken like they always eat it like gets that point and when he was talking about

630
00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:36,900
that I'm just like okay so this is where it's going we're gonna see Stan's descent into

631
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,300
becoming a geek because it's like why would they share that story if it wasn't going to

632
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:49,020
happen fair like in my mind that was the gun that was the gun and by the end of the movie

633
00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:56,700
that had to go off like that had a tie I like it had a tie into the story somehow and I'm

634
00:49:56,700 --> 00:50:02,780
like it's probably going to be Stan becoming a geek and then it like that the suspicions

635
00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:07,820
were confirmed when he started drinking because he was very big like oh I don't drink I don't

636
00:50:07,820 --> 00:50:19,100
drink but the the therapist that he was seeing Dr. Ritter got him to start drinking and it

637
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:23,380
just kind of like ruined his life and so I'm like yeah that's this is the beginning of

638
00:50:23,380 --> 00:50:31,380
his descent into becoming a geek yeah and I'm kind of glad that it he didn't go too

639
00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:38,540
clem I'm glad that it started off somewhere else and it was just like a trick of the trade

640
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:45,340
that he fell into and it's like it's sad because it's like Stan didn't have anywhere else to

641
00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:57,260
go yeah like he he fell into this and he like submitted to the fact that he was to become

642
00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:04,340
a geek and so the way that they went about that where it was just him on the rise so

643
00:51:04,340 --> 00:51:09,980
you see him at like a really low point and he just builds himself up to being like a

644
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:18,660
member of this sideshow attraction or roadside attraction and then working his way up to

645
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:24,900
becoming a mentalist and then taking the show on the road and becoming a super high class

646
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:31,380
mentalist act and then taking it just a little too far to spook show territory where he's

647
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:40,940
tent like communing with the dead and everything and then just his slow descent into like madness

648
00:51:40,940 --> 00:51:52,340
is just it was so well done it really was like it's so freaking good um gosh where

649
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:58,540
are you a story I would say I'm I'm pretty high like honestly I agree with everything

650
00:51:58,540 --> 00:52:06,700
that you said the just watching Stan go from being on cloud nine it feels with his mentalist

651
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:11,580
act and then just watching it just get worse and worse for him as the rest of the movie

652
00:52:11,580 --> 00:52:23,700
plays out now from him losing Molly to shit I forgot her name Dr. Ritter screwing him

653
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:34,300
over just it's a very it's sad to watch but honestly he had it coming to him karma's a

654
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:40,740
bitch that's yeah that's one way to put it and karma is a bitch this movie teaches you

655
00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:52,900
it's that yeah it's like awesome I would say I'm in the 90s for this I'm gonna I'm gonna

656
00:52:52,900 --> 00:53:03,660
go a 92 I'm actually a little bit higher than you I'm sitting at a 93 hell yeah sweet yeah

657
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:11,380
I mean not much of a difference but still I thought it was an incredibly well told story

658
00:53:11,380 --> 00:53:16,660
next up we got writing there were some shit in this like the dot like the dialogue itself

659
00:53:16,660 --> 00:53:25,620
was good I would say overall I mean there was a little like nonsense lines that probably

660
00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:31,660
could have been cut out didn't really affect it too much or for me like or didn't impact

661
00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:40,420
my score too much there are some like good highlights that I want to bring up the biggest

662
00:53:40,420 --> 00:53:52,860
one is right after Stan like punches Grindel to death like busting his face open which

663
00:53:52,860 --> 00:54:02,860
was just rancid to see Grindel's bodyguard comes running out and starts taking shots

664
00:54:02,860 --> 00:54:12,660
at Stan they jump in Stan and Molly jump in the car and Stan starts driving off and

665
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:16,740
at first I thought okay this is just gonna be like the classic shootout scene where he's

666
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:22,580
gonna start driving off bodyguard is gonna come out and to start popping shots at the

667
00:54:22,580 --> 00:54:28,620
car blow out the back window and probably just go on from there just like that's what

668
00:54:28,620 --> 00:54:34,780
I was expecting so he pulls forward or Stan drives forward a little bit and he stops I

669
00:54:34,780 --> 00:54:41,460
was like what the hell and he shifts it into reverse freaking floors it backwards and I'm

670
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:49,100
like oh shit oh shit and then the Grindel's bodyguard comes running out and then boom

671
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:55,500
like hit with the car and I'm like yes like it's one of those things I'm like that was

672
00:54:55,500 --> 00:55:04,260
like you know you were there I was just like that was freaking smart like it just something

673
00:55:04,260 --> 00:55:10,500
that we hadn't seen before at least I haven't like if they've ever done that before like

674
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:15,380
I've personally never seen it like it's always been that stupid popping shots at the back

675
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:24,500
window bullshit and I feel it's overplayed but the way that they did that was sick so

676
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:32,860
he just kicks it in reverse runs the dudes like runs his ass over and Molly's like flipping

677
00:55:32,860 --> 00:55:37,580
out and like what the hell are you doing and he's just like sitting there and he's like

678
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:44,740
gotta do what I gotta do shifts it into drive frick runs the dude over again I'm like damn

679
00:55:44,740 --> 00:55:56,540
oh so freaking great I can't express how excited I got over that scene I was just like because

680
00:55:56,540 --> 00:56:03,620
it's just it's not often that I can be I at least I feel that I get taken off guard that

681
00:56:03,620 --> 00:56:10,060
badly because for because I as the movie goes I build like what I think is going to happen

682
00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:19,580
up in my mind like I said when Clem and Stan were having the conversation about the the

683
00:56:19,580 --> 00:56:24,580
geeks I was like okay so that's where this is leading and I was right about that but

684
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:29,980
it's like the way that we got there like totally not what I was expecting there was some shit

685
00:56:29,980 --> 00:56:35,420
that I was yeah that was like a little bit predictable and it was because he was getting

686
00:56:35,420 --> 00:56:48,540
sloppy with his drinking um one of the things that he that Stan says to dr. Ritter is being

687
00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:57,300
a mentalist and drinking does not mix well because he has to be on at all times like

688
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:06,620
he has to be like as sharp and quick witted as he can be and he's like and if I'm not

689
00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:11,900
I start to get sloppy and when you get sloppy you make mistakes and that's when I thought

690
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:20,300
okay that's how he's going to get like to the point of being a geek I was I wasn't

691
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:26,740
quite expecting I was expecting him to just go into drinking on his own but Ritter pushing

692
00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:32,180
him into it and then at that point where he is where he was getting like sloppy and everything

693
00:57:32,180 --> 00:57:38,460
and I'm just like that was well done too yeah I really smartly written like they they gave

694
00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:43,240
you all the clues you needed to figure out where the story was going but still threw

695
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:54,140
in some twists and turns no no I absolutely agree yeah so I thought it was really well

696
00:57:54,140 --> 00:58:03,580
done I may be a little lower on my writing score really okay well no actually no that

697
00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:08,980
makes sense you're actually not surprised by that I'll take that back I I might I'm

698
00:58:08,980 --> 00:58:15,860
not down too much though like I think I'm still nine I'm at like a 91 you know I'm

699
00:58:15,860 --> 00:58:24,100
gonna match with that um yeah literally everything Caleb said absolutely agree with I speak

700
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:34,740
especially sorry I f'd it up I messed some reason that's not like showing the full score

701
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:44,260
I don't know what I did anyway okay anyway but yeah no literally everything absolutely

702
00:58:44,260 --> 00:58:51,360
agree with what Caleb said I especially liked the whole way that Stan and Molly would like

703
00:58:51,360 --> 00:59:02,100
rehearse their act when he first entered oh my god I just forgot his occupation I'm mentalist

704
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:10,380
mentalist thank you how how would he what weren't they like communicating with like

705
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:16,060
like was it like colors or some shit like that I forget what it was yeah so it was it

706
00:59:16,060 --> 00:59:25,820
was hand gestures it was different ways of like communicating would indicate things that

707
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:32,360
they were asking for okay so it was more like because he would blindfold himself and then

708
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:42,220
Molly would sneak in those hints through her her speech like she would say something and

709
00:59:42,220 --> 00:59:52,060
it would indicate the color or it would indicate like what it was or what's what things said

710
00:59:52,060 --> 00:59:57,820
and so everything it was just word clues that he was using so it's just he would have had

711
00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:05,260
to have a like an amazing memory and then when he was asking for different things he

712
01:00:05,260 --> 01:00:12,660
would do like like it'd be the fingers on his head and like just these silent things

713
01:00:12,660 --> 01:00:19,100
that Molly could pick up and be like this is what I'm asking you to explain like oh

714
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:28,660
I need the color oh I need what kind of metal if it's a watch or this or that and so she

715
01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:37,420
would answer questions that would indicate to him what what things were so it was just

716
01:00:37,420 --> 01:00:44,000
a form of communication and so it was just them mastering that that's what it was okay

717
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:52,820
yeah some reason just escaping my mind yeah that just especially the whole actually I

718
01:00:52,820 --> 01:01:00,100
don't know where I was gonna go with that never mind yeah so he said same as Caleb

719
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:12,820
91 nice all right moving on over to acting they have a pretty star-studded cast here

720
01:01:12,820 --> 01:01:22,780
straight up so just kind of dealing with the people that were like bigger roles I was

721
01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:30,260
say we definitely have Bradley Cooper who plays Stanton Carlisle we have Kate Blanchett

722
01:01:30,260 --> 01:01:41,300
who plays Dr. Lilith Ritter Tony Colette who plays Zena the seer Willem Defoe who plays

723
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:54,780
Clem Holtley Richard Jenkins who plays Ezra Grindle Rooney Mara who plays Molly Cahill

724
01:01:54,780 --> 01:02:06,220
and then we have let's say David Strathairn who plays Pete yeah he's a very solid cast

725
01:02:06,220 --> 01:02:15,340
an amazing cast like everyone just freaking blew it out of the water who would your top

726
01:02:15,340 --> 01:02:27,940
three be my top three number one I got to give to Bradley Cooper was amazing but I mean

727
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:33,900
he is amazing and literally everything he does but especially in this one the way that

728
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:45,100
he conveyed emotion especially towards the ending that was super super solid number two

729
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:53,780
I would I would actually give to Rooney Mara I really enjoyed her performances Molly I

730
01:02:53,780 --> 01:02:57,820
liked that you know toward at the beginning she was very soft-spoken didn't really know

731
01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:02,160
how to speak out for herself but by the time that we got to the ending with everything

732
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,020
that happened with Stan she was actually able to speak out for herself and like make the

733
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:14,020
decision no I can't do this anymore especially what she was asked to do when it came to everything

734
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:24,100
with Grindle I loved that so she was fantastic and then number three I would actually give

735
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:30,940
to Richard Jenkins who played Ezra Grindle for this definitely for the biggest reason

736
01:03:30,940 --> 01:03:39,100
is that scene where they try to play off Molly as his deceased daughter and just it just

737
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:44,740
goes to shit and just the way that he reacts is just so good and throughout the whole movie

738
01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:51,380
he's he's so good he gives us such good emotion when he can a little bit tell that Stan is

739
01:03:51,380 --> 01:03:54,580
putting him through the ringer a little bit he's just like no you're telling me everything

740
01:03:54,580 --> 01:03:59,420
that was wrong with me that I did wrong you're not telling me anything that I want to hear

741
01:03:59,420 --> 01:04:04,440
that I should be hearing for my dead daughter and the way that he's so the way that he conveys

742
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:13,780
emotion through the whole movie is super super good so was it his daughter was it or was

743
01:04:13,780 --> 01:04:22,820
it his wife it it might have been his daughter for all I know I I can't remember now yeah

744
01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:28,220
I'm not sure either yeah I thought it I thought it was a lover but it might it might not have

745
01:04:28,220 --> 01:04:35,580
been I like it makes sense if it was if it was his daughter like why why she would have

746
01:04:35,580 --> 01:04:47,140
sent a postcard oh no it wasn't so no door so Dory was just a just says she was it was

747
01:04:47,140 --> 01:04:55,660
a young woman that I guess he had a thing for and I remember he forced her to get an

748
01:04:55,660 --> 01:05:04,580
abortion wait wait one second I'm Santa's hose when Santa Claus and plans to have my

749
01:05:04,580 --> 01:05:11,260
poses to okay yeah so yeah it is Dory okay so yeah it's a see I get so yeah I guess it's

750
01:05:11,260 --> 01:05:18,300
like an ex lover okay okay yes that's not a daughter my bad no you're good I was just

751
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:28,740
gonna say I'm like okay this this got weird but yeah dude that scene like you knew it

752
01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:34,460
was going to go to shit and like I even said before the scene happened I'm just like he

753
01:05:34,460 --> 01:05:42,500
does Stan really believe that Ezra is not going to freaking just go after Molly yeah

754
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:48,540
right and like not even like obviously I think he would fall for it because like he wants

755
01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:55,260
to but he thinks that he's going to be able to grab this dude who is just in total in

756
01:05:55,260 --> 01:06:05,140
belief that he's able to see this manifestation of his dead lover and he's got the person

757
01:06:05,140 --> 01:06:12,660
that he feels the most guilt over doing wrong and he's just gonna be able to get on his

758
01:06:12,660 --> 01:06:22,700
knees and pray bull shit dude right dude seriously yeah and like I understand why Stan went to

759
01:06:22,700 --> 01:06:30,820
the lengths that he did to try and pull off this whole thing with Molly but he should

760
01:06:30,820 --> 01:06:39,140
have got its losses when Ezra was like I can't do this I would have been like we don't have

761
01:06:39,140 --> 01:06:44,540
to and just go from there and then as soon as like Molly strides coming in just like

762
01:06:44,540 --> 01:06:56,180
get out of here yep yeah exactly ex name ex name geez dude it was just oh my gosh but

763
01:06:56,180 --> 01:07:03,740
yeah that that scene was incredible between those two but I have to agree with you my

764
01:07:03,740 --> 01:07:11,780
number one definitely going to Bradley Cooper he's an underrated actor I feel oh absolutely

765
01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:19,140
like I don't think he gets enough credit for his roles like I know that like like obviously

766
01:07:19,140 --> 01:07:25,020
like I feel like he's won awards and stuff but I think people freaking sleep on him in

767
01:07:25,020 --> 01:07:32,780
terms of like a good dramatic actor yeah no I absolutely agree I really do like he he

768
01:07:32,780 --> 01:07:40,420
freaking throws himself into roles like I actually put him on the same level as maybe

769
01:07:40,420 --> 01:07:48,060
like Christian Bale yeah dude that's fair which I mean honestly like that might be a

770
01:07:48,060 --> 01:08:03,740
bold statement but still my number two gosh this is hard I might give to Willem Dafoe

771
01:08:03,740 --> 01:08:11,500
okay that's like that's an excellent choice yeah I I love loved what he did with with

772
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:18,380
Clem and the conversations that he was was having with Stan and just teaching him the

773
01:08:18,380 --> 01:08:28,660
the way that the the roadside attraction works like it was just so good and he's just so

774
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:36,620
weasley it's just yeah like has he has an intimidation about him that's just awe inspiring

775
01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:45,300
it is yeah I know he wasn't like the biggest part in this movie but he was an amazing part

776
01:08:45,300 --> 01:08:55,020
and then my number three I'm going to give to Kate Blatchett I loved how conniving she

777
01:08:55,020 --> 01:09:06,500
was and she she freaking threw me for a loop same like I thought I'll say this I didn't

778
01:09:06,500 --> 01:09:12,700
think her intentions when she was offering Stan a drink I don't think that they were

779
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:24,700
necessarily like 100% pure but I didn't expect the full twist of like ooh I'm the bad guy

780
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:32,540
like yeah like she gave us and Kate Blatchett is just a freaking powerhouse of acting she's

781
01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:42,820
absolutely incredible yeah I love her but I mean hell she's in like she's in one of

782
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:51,940
my all-time favorite movies what movie the curious case of Benjamin Button still have

783
01:09:51,940 --> 01:09:58,860
not seen that movie dude so good I know I'm sleeping on it but yeah freaking love her

784
01:09:58,860 --> 01:10:07,780
and that and loved her in this like this might be one of those movies that I go back to same

785
01:10:07,780 --> 01:10:14,740
here like this movie surprised the hell out of me yeah I don't know if it like it's I

786
01:10:14,740 --> 01:10:22,460
it's definitely not correct like my top ten but yeah same here I'd say it it's definitely

787
01:10:22,460 --> 01:10:29,180
somewhere within maybe my top 20 now I don't know if I would go that high even but it's

788
01:10:29,180 --> 01:10:36,260
probably top 30 for me yeah I'd have to make a list but I've never I think it's up there

789
01:10:36,260 --> 01:10:45,380
ever actually made a list I know neither of I like the only list I've made is top 10 fair

790
01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:55,740
but top yeah top 20 might be pushing it a little bit top 30 for sure yeah I grow yeah

791
01:10:55,740 --> 01:11:05,460
I freaking loved all like everyone's performance was amazing and I mean duh yes had like the

792
01:11:05,460 --> 01:11:15,780
movies jam-packed full of amazing actors and actresses so true where would you put your

793
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:21,860
acting I would actually give this the highest rating so far just because even the extras

794
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:31,300
I thought were super super good I don't really have problems with any of them so I'm at 94

795
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:41,180
damn I I'm really close to agreeing with you I I'm not quite out of 94 though fair enough

796
01:11:41,180 --> 01:11:48,740
I think it's definitely somewhere between story and writing so I'm gonna give it a 92

797
01:11:48,740 --> 01:11:56,340
fair enough all right next up we got character development which for obviously we need to

798
01:11:56,340 --> 01:12:07,580
do this off Stan but this is an this was a really well done character arts so freaking

799
01:12:07,580 --> 01:12:10,860
good this is one of the best this is one of the best character arcs I've seen in a good

800
01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:18,340
long while yeah obviously this is one of those those negative marks where shit just kind

801
01:12:18,340 --> 01:12:25,500
of hits the fan for our main character but they do it so well it's it's like they start

802
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:32,740
them like I said when we were discussing the story they start him off at the freaking bottom

803
01:12:32,740 --> 01:12:44,980
like running away from a freaking murder so he's running away from his troubles he slowly

804
01:12:44,980 --> 01:12:55,540
works himself up to this point in a in a freaking roadside attraction becomes like starts becoming

805
01:12:55,540 --> 01:13:00,980
friends with everyone starts helping out around the circus a bit more I was just gonna call

806
01:13:00,980 --> 01:13:07,120
the circus but we're starts help yeah starts helping around a little bit more becomes more

807
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:15,580
friendly gets in on the axe starts doing this and that and then works himself up to like

808
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:25,380
training as a as a mentalist and it just slowly like keeps working his way up and then you

809
01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:32,180
see him at the top of his game where he's performing this mentalist act for high society

810
01:13:32,180 --> 01:13:39,700
people and like blowing their minds and then you like again you see him like work his way

811
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:48,380
up and he starts to plateau when he's at like doing the spook show shit and then it's just

812
01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:56,780
a really steady decline of everything and then eventually just kind of starts to peak

813
01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:05,220
a little bit or like plateau again and then just dumpster dive straight down to the bottom

814
01:14:05,220 --> 01:14:11,260
and it ends with him at like even lower than he was at the beginning but it was it was

815
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:18,980
the buildup dude that was so freaking good like this is exactly what I've talked about

816
01:14:18,980 --> 01:14:26,740
with other movies we need to see these people at their height or at the lowest and what

817
01:14:26,740 --> 01:14:30,780
like I said we saw him at the bottom and then we saw it and then at the end he's at the

818
01:14:30,780 --> 01:14:42,140
freaking bottom he doesn't get much lower than that yeah it's it was really well done

819
01:14:42,140 --> 01:14:46,140
just the way they built this character up and you kind of start to have a little respect

820
01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:52,500
for him maybe not as a person because he kind of seems a little shitty yeah especially to

821
01:14:52,500 --> 01:14:59,980
Molly well okay not especially to Molly but as the movie progresses yeah definitely yeah

822
01:14:59,980 --> 01:15:05,300
like he kind of has this uh this skeeziness about him like throughout the entire alpha

823
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:17,380
movie but I think by the end he loses that a lot and you get to see him humbled yeah

824
01:15:17,380 --> 01:15:25,780
so it's it's it's it's really interesting it's definitely one of the better character

825
01:15:25,780 --> 01:15:37,540
developments that we've ever had absolutely the question though is how high is it this

826
01:15:37,540 --> 01:15:48,180
one I think is this one I'm sitting in that 90 I think it's barely cracking 90 like coin

827
01:15:48,180 --> 01:15:55,340
flip I could it's probably down in like the 80s but I'm wanting to be as a little bit

828
01:15:55,340 --> 01:16:01,340
nice so I'll give it that that extra bonus point and I'm gonna agree with you and match

829
01:16:01,340 --> 01:16:08,700
you for that bonus point all right next up we got effects not a whole lot in terms of

830
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:14,180
special effects except for the fire that Caleb definitely had to point out looks like shit

831
01:16:14,180 --> 01:16:21,700
oh I completely forgot about that fire yeah it's always so frontage that in every movie

832
01:16:21,700 --> 01:16:25,740
that Caleb watched because I mean unfortunately we can't watch every movie together but every

833
01:16:25,740 --> 01:16:33,220
it's been I don't know how long it's been but um for the last little while every single

834
01:16:33,220 --> 01:16:38,020
time that we'll watch a movie together and he'll see fire effects Caleb will not go out

835
01:16:38,020 --> 01:16:43,580
of his way but he will definitely point out that God even I could do better effects in

836
01:16:43,580 --> 01:16:51,100
that and it's freaking hilarious dude all he start laughing at a scene that I shouldn't

837
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:58,820
be laughing at it looked super freaking fake oh no it looked like it seriously looked like

838
01:16:58,820 --> 01:17:04,980
they went they typed in fire effects green screen on YouTube and just like copy and pasted

839
01:17:04,980 --> 01:17:10,700
that shit and then this is first one at that yeah it's like none of the lighting matched

840
01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:20,820
up to the flame it it was so odd because it it didn't look like anything was like on fire

841
01:17:20,820 --> 01:17:26,900
it just looked like there was a fire effect on top of it but I don't I don't understand

842
01:17:26,900 --> 01:17:31,300
why they couldn't do like they couldn't burn the actual house down freaking Halloween kills

843
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:39,300
did yeah it's a freaking set burn that shit to the ground like honestly I they would they

844
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:43,220
would have had it's so much easier with the scene freaking and Halloween kills they only

845
01:17:43,220 --> 01:17:49,100
had one shot to get Michael walking out of that house perfectly yeah one shot hell you

846
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:54,140
could tell with that one that that house was just straight up on fire yeah no that was

847
01:17:54,140 --> 01:18:01,860
absolutely real fire yeah this it's like you couldn't spend like a couple extra bucks to

848
01:18:01,860 --> 01:18:08,980
freaking just build a set and light that shit on fire it's not like it's it'd be hard no

849
01:18:08,980 --> 01:18:20,100
would not like are you worried about recycling oh shit like or just something because it

850
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:24,700
didn't look like anything was like legitimately on fire like it wasn't there wasn't anything

851
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:38,180
burning it was just there was fire where stuff was it not good definitely not good um were

852
01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:43,980
there even any other effects besides that not nothing like special effects wise I feel

853
01:18:43,980 --> 01:18:52,980
everything else seemed to be pretty practical yeah um so I mean I was I was impressed with

854
01:18:52,980 --> 01:19:01,380
that like when Grindle was like beaten to death and his like nose was gone like that

855
01:19:01,380 --> 01:19:07,620
look that jacked up yeah those were good prosthetics right there yeah I mean if it was special

856
01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:12,900
effects like freaking or maybe it was good on you but it looked like it could have been

857
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:21,020
either way that like either way but really good yeah um I mean how all the stuff that

858
01:19:21,020 --> 01:19:32,100
Clem had in his collection of like that we are jacked up sewn together baby yeah that's

859
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:41,380
that shit was haunting yeah dude straight up um yeah everything else looked really good

860
01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:52,940
um I mean some of the effects too oh here's one that um so Molly was a performer for like

861
01:19:52,940 --> 01:20:05,020
this she can conduct electricity sort of situation um I really liked her effects I think my biggest

862
01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:14,300
issue with like lightning is that it never looks realistic enough that's fair like I've

863
01:20:14,300 --> 01:20:19,260
always kind of been upset with like the Thor effects especially when he's doing lightning

864
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:26,220
because it just looks so fake um I think my only issue with the the lightning effects

865
01:20:26,220 --> 01:20:32,780
on this where maybe it was a little too blue like I think it I think it needed a bit more

866
01:20:32,780 --> 01:20:40,980
glow yeah um and it needed to be like white so it needed like white lightning with a blue

867
01:20:40,980 --> 01:20:53,340
glow um but those were honestly some of my favorite lightning effects fair enough yeah

868
01:20:53,340 --> 01:21:04,540
so this is one might actually be close to my lowest if not my lowest I feel it's my

869
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:15,100
lowest yeah I think I'm sitting there like an 83 maybe it's nicer than me I'm gonna

870
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:22,060
give an 82 it's not like much of a difference yeah I thought you were going to be in like

871
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:33,140
the 70s no I'm not that man yeah um all right next up we got music that would be not best

872
01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:37,860
yeah like I'm really stood out weren't yeah exactly yeah that's the biggest thing I can

873
01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:42,220
say about the where it needed to be serious the music fit where it needed to be kind of

874
01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:53,500
like upbeat the music fit yeah so I mean music wise I think I'm just like six similar like

875
01:21:53,500 --> 01:22:05,140
barely above average I guess yeah yeah basically um all right costumes were these really decent

876
01:22:05,140 --> 01:22:14,940
yeah these were really good um I love the outfits that they put cape blanchett in yeah

877
01:22:14,940 --> 01:22:22,220
she was so elegant yeah she did those are so good yeah and then I didn't know quite

878
01:22:22,220 --> 01:22:26,620
where to put this yeah I like I know this doesn't count as costume is it just something

879
01:22:26,620 --> 01:22:37,780
I wanted to bring up I loved as it from like a woodworking perspective I loved her office

880
01:22:37,780 --> 01:22:46,700
it was it was a freaking woodworkers wet dream in there like I I was just like oh can I just

881
01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:54,060
go in there and look oh this would be like is this like in your top five movie sets you

882
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:58,700
would actually want to explore dude this is probably my number one movie set I'd want

883
01:22:58,700 --> 01:23:07,020
to explore it it like I said it's a woodworkers wet dream like fair enough man oh no so good

884
01:23:07,020 --> 01:23:14,060
like all the drawer or all the the wall faces the drawers that she had like I love the freaking

885
01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:28,140
like uh book pattern that she had on the walls is it oh so good like I could honestly like

886
01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:32,500
ever I got so excited every time they were in her office I'm just like yes I want to

887
01:23:32,500 --> 01:23:46,500
see more oh anyway getting back to like the costumes were there any standouts for you

888
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:55,700
not really I mean even like none of the like carneys costumes really stood out but they

889
01:23:55,700 --> 01:24:05,780
still look super good like yeah they did like they made sense for what they try to get across

890
01:24:05,780 --> 01:24:12,580
so I'll for costumes I'm at an eight that's about where I'm at too I actually might be

891
01:24:12,580 --> 01:24:22,000
more like at a seven I can do seven yeah I mean if it for the time and that's probably

892
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:28,220
about as much as you can say about it yeah that's true all right last up we got our

893
01:24:28,220 --> 01:24:35,280
own personal scores you want to take this one first would love to so this is honestly

894
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,060
one of the biggest surprise movies that I've watched in a very long time just because it

895
01:24:40,060 --> 01:24:45,420
caught me out of left field on what it was actually about um and so I was looking at

896
01:24:45,420 --> 01:24:50,340
like the seal book uh inside artwork and I never noticed it's actually like cart like

897
01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:56,900
carney attire it's like you have like carnival signs like it has like uh the uh not tarot

898
01:24:56,900 --> 01:25:03,980
cards but like the like cards that they the circuses use so like I guess that should have

899
01:25:03,980 --> 01:25:07,820
been I should have like picked up on that kind of stuff but for some reason didn't at

900
01:25:07,820 --> 01:25:18,820
all well okay well I based off the trailer I knew it was set around like circus I just

901
01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:25,980
thought it was Bradley Cooper's character investigating like a circus murder you know

902
01:25:25,980 --> 01:25:30,700
what I wouldn't have hated that movie but I'm happy with the one that we got I'm very

903
01:25:30,700 --> 01:25:35,580
happy with it with the one that we got so yeah don't don't beat yourself up too much

904
01:25:35,580 --> 01:25:44,580
about that because like I said we were both fooled um Vienna uh one of Bradley Cooper's

905
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:49,420
best performances I feel of his career he was incredible in this movie everyone was

906
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:55,300
um I don't have any problems with any of the actors everyone brought their a game um and

907
01:25:55,300 --> 01:26:00,660
honestly this has become one of my favorite Guillermo del Toro films um he did a fantastic

908
01:26:00,660 --> 01:26:10,040
job with this one um so personal grade I'm gonna go a 92 yeah I completely agree with

909
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:20,660
you um I love being taken off guard by movies especially good ones like this so I mean I

910
01:26:20,660 --> 01:26:31,700
had one hell of a time watching this and yeah I mean basically just everything you said

911
01:26:31,700 --> 01:26:38,620
I am a couple points lower though um I think I'm gonna be sitting at like a 90 uh for my

912
01:26:38,620 --> 01:26:46,340
personal score but still like an amazing film definitely worth the watch if you have HBO

913
01:26:46,340 --> 01:26:54,340
Max and get a chance to like I'd say it's even worth going out to purchase yeah I agree

914
01:26:54,340 --> 01:27:08,060
yeah support physical media um all right well with that starting off with story uh we started

915
01:27:08,060 --> 01:27:18,140
off at a 92.5 writing was a little bit lower sitting at a 91 acting bumped right back up

916
01:27:18,140 --> 01:27:26,740
to a 93 acting is sitting at a very or yeah acting is sitting at a 93 character development

917
01:27:26,740 --> 01:27:33,900
sitting at a very strong uh 90 effects was one of the lower that we we gave it's sitting

918
01:27:33,900 --> 01:27:48,300
at an 82.5 and it's mainly due to shitty fire um the music nothing too out there and I think

919
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:54,020
I think soundtrack wise it it was what it needed to be I think a soundtrack any better

920
01:27:54,020 --> 01:28:01,820
would have been a little over distracting that's her um but again it is it's it worked

921
01:28:01,820 --> 01:28:07,380
with the scene so again nothing too special there so we ended up giving that a six uh

922
01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:14,300
costumes for were fairly good um so we ended up giving that a little bit higher sitting

923
01:28:14,300 --> 01:28:23,740
at a seven and then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 91 so with all that

924
01:28:23,740 --> 01:28:42,620
magic the final all bros letter grade for nightmare alley has come to a b plus not bad yeah it's

925
01:28:42,620 --> 01:28:51,740
um it's on the lower end of of b plus movies at least for us um but honestly I think it

926
01:28:51,740 --> 01:29:00,660
has a pretty decent home so it like just looking real quick I wear it it's ranking um so it

927
01:29:00,660 --> 01:29:14,580
is sitting currently at an 86.87 percent uh so that puts it below nobody which is sitting

928
01:29:14,580 --> 01:29:26,980
at an 87 it is below the original halloween which is at an 87.06 may see you smiling um

929
01:29:26,980 --> 01:29:36,260
it is sitting below psycho which is at an 87.1 and then it is sitting below the willabies

930
01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:48,140
which is at an 87.24 aren't uh going the opposite direction it is above in the heights which

931
01:29:48,140 --> 01:29:55,940
is at an 86.81 I don't know how I feel about that I love you like in the heights more I

932
01:29:55,940 --> 01:30:03,700
think I did dude man you know me I'm a sucker for musicals so true that um let's see it

933
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:14,820
is above frozen 2 which is at an 86.59 all right it's above scream 2022 which is at an

934
01:30:14,820 --> 01:30:27,580
86.56 all right it is above the lovebirds which is at an 86.54 and then finally it is

935
01:30:27,580 --> 01:30:37,380
above the lego movie 2 which is at an 86.5 oh the lego movie 2 and black adam which are

936
01:30:37,380 --> 01:30:46,380
both at oh 6.5 okay yeah you know what I agree it has a good placement yeah I mean the margins

937
01:30:46,380 --> 01:30:58,780
there are ridiculously close like it's it's really freaking close like let's see you like

938
01:30:58,780 --> 01:31:06,340
how far up do you have to go for like a full percentage so yeah there's 13 movies above

939
01:31:06,340 --> 01:31:18,900
it before you you get to like a full percentage difference damn and then below it it's like

940
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:26,900
the same deal like the difference between nightmare alley and our lowest b plus movie

941
01:31:26,900 --> 01:31:35,660
which is mr. peabody and sherman not even a full percentage wow damn so like to get

942
01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:43,340
a full percentage away from nightmare alley you're in the b range okay so it like I said

943
01:31:43,340 --> 01:31:52,500
the margins are eight dude no kidding so I freaking love our system dude like same here

944
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:59,500
I love how like intricate it gets because it's like I so I have to round up so like

945
01:31:59,500 --> 01:32:09,780
I said at 86.87 for nightmare alley it's actually 86.875 okay all right and then like if we're

946
01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:20,740
talking like Halloween it's 87.0625 and then like our most redonkulous one the willabies

947
01:32:20,740 --> 01:32:31,780
is actually at an 87.2499125 okay all right which it's like that because we had beth and

948
01:32:31,780 --> 01:32:39,940
dj on for that one oh it's oh that's why our scores are like crazy makes sense which I

949
01:32:39,940 --> 01:32:45,260
love like not complaining about that in the slightest I freaking love when when we get

950
01:32:45,260 --> 01:32:54,220
scores like that so yeah that is where nightmare alley is sitting so unless you have anything

951
01:32:54,220 --> 01:33:02,700
else to say about this movie I got another I do believe that concludes this week's breakdown

952
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:08,420
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953
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01:33:32,420 --> 01:33:37,140
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958
01:33:37,140 --> 01:33:48,300
speaking of question of the week we did have a question of the week that we posted we just

959
01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:59,140
it's for bullet train so I think I'm going to save those answers for next week when we

960
01:33:59,140 --> 01:34:08,100
actually do talk about bullet train sounds good but I do want to shout out the people

961
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:27,380
that responded so big shout out to Jakey film guy Raider Nathan 420 Hector underscore salamandra

962
01:34:27,380 --> 01:34:41,220
Chris underscore tunes 8 and Bailey Hyde we absolutely appreciate your answers and we

963
01:34:41,220 --> 01:34:48,020
promise we will read those off next week it's just not related to the movie we're discussing

964
01:34:48,020 --> 01:34:59,300
this week yeah so yeah we like I said we'll be reading those off so you'll get a second

965
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:10,540
shout out on the next episode if you're listening to this one so anyway we appreciate you guys

966
01:35:10,540 --> 01:35:17,540
and please continue to answer our question of the weeks when we post them which you can

967
01:35:17,540 --> 01:35:24,980
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968
01:35:24,980 --> 01:35:33,100
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969
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:40,020
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970
01:35:40,020 --> 01:35:46,260
check out our website which has not been updated in a while but that's my fault it's tiny URL

971
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:51,900
dot com yeah well I think blame too because oh I'm just saying I'll take blame too considering

972
01:35:51,900 --> 01:36:00,140
that I could have jumped in and helped with that yeah so be sure to check that out it's

973
01:36:00,140 --> 01:36:05,940
tiny URL dot com forward slash the all bros where you can find links to everything that

974
01:36:05,940 --> 01:36:14,980
we do including including a merch store if what you find on that website isn't to your

975
01:36:14,980 --> 01:36:24,980
liking you can also just message us and say hey I like this artwork and want to get a

976
01:36:24,980 --> 01:36:34,180
shirt of our hoodie or whatever of it and we will get it made for you and honestly like

977
01:36:34,180 --> 01:36:39,220
it's just whatever it costs to get it made we're not going to charge any more than that

978
01:36:39,220 --> 01:36:45,740
yeah the only thing it'll cost is a picture of you wearing said shirt yes or hoodie or

979
01:36:45,740 --> 01:36:52,540
yeah from whatever you get to you either wearing it or holding it that's what we ask yeah that

980
01:36:52,540 --> 01:37:03,940
would make us super happy anyway next week will be our actual breakdown of bullet train

981
01:37:03,940 --> 01:37:11,740
so yeah you guys can look forward to that next week but until then this has been the

982
01:37:11,740 --> 01:37:18,980
all bros podcast I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we'll catch you guys next week this is

983
01:37:18,980 --> 01:37:35,900
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