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What is up bros?

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I'm Caleb.

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And I'm Jonathan.

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And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews

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out there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the All Bros.

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This week on the podcast we have nothing in 4k spotlight to discuss.

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And through the wall we did have the Super Bowl come out so there were a few trailers

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that got released there.

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We're only going to talk about one.

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And that's going to be the Flash trailer.

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We'll talk about why we're not discussing the other ones that got released.

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So we'll be discussing that trailer and then we'll be getting into this week's headliner

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where we will be breaking down Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio.

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So with that let's say we get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Alrighty jumping straight into through the wall.

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The Super Bowl came out this past week as of when we were recording.

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But the real question is, Caleb, did you watch it?

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Not a single second of it.

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Did you?

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No, I didn't watch any of it.

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I will admit I was checking Google towards like the ending just to see if my boss's team

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was going to win.

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They did not.

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It's like just to see what kind of mood he's going to be in the next day.

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Exactly.

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Oh man.

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Yeah, I honestly didn't know that it was the Super Bowl until everyone was like talking

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about the trailers and like getting super hyped and I was just like, oh yeah.

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Oh dude, I can't even escape it in my work because yeah, everyone just said, oh, who

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you rooting for?

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Who you rooting for?

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I'm just like, I could give two shits about sports.

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So I don't care who wins.

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I'm not watching it.

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Yeah, we don't give a damn.

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But the one thing that we do kind of give a damn about are some of the trailers that

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got released.

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There was a decent amount of trailers, nothing that gave us too much to go off of.

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I mean, there were some that I was really excited for like the Indiana Jones one.

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Still have not watched that one yet.

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Really?

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Not even the new one?

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Yeah, I don't know why I haven't yet.

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I don't know what's holding me back.

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Yeah, it didn't give too much story stuff.

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Like it's just basically stuff we've already discussed before.

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Dungeons and Dragons, kind of the same deal.

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Dude, I swear when I go, because I think Christina wants to go see that movie.

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I feel like I'm going to be the person like just leaning over to her like every couple

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of minutes being like, what the hell does that mean?

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What does that mean?

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Who's that?

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Because I have no idea what the hell Dungeons and Dragons is.

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I have nothing against it.

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I just don't know what I've never played the game, know nothing about it.

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So I'm so freaking lost in that movie.

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I don't know if you would be because I mean, they have to more or less they have to pander

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to audience members that don't know anything about Dungeons and Dragons.

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At least I feel like they would.

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Touche.

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Touche.

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I know a decent amount about Dungeons and Dragons.

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That's just because I listened to a few D&D podcasts and I like what I do know is that

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they do have like books like Dungeons and Dragons have books and it's like campaigns

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that you can play through.

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But I know a lot of Dungeon Masters create their own games.

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So it's like not really something that's set in stone.

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play through the story and the game.

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So I mean, they'll use their monsters occasionally or just like if there's a shop, what kind

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of items are in the shop.

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like open source.

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So there's not like one set storyline or whatever.

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or a few times in a row, each adventure will be different from the last.

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Like it seems like a really cool game.

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I'd love to get into it, but it's just a time suck.

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Yeah, that's fair.

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I hope eventually I'll be able to make time for it.

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But as of right now, not in the cards for me.

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It wasn't anything new, just kind of more of the same beats, just a couple extra scenes.

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Just gave us maybe a couple more bonus stuff.

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But the trailer that we're going to talk about today is for The Flash.

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And this gave us a significant amount of new stuff.

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And oh, my hell, dude.

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Dude, right?

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Dude, the DC fan base is really conflicted right now.

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It's like they don't want to go and support Ezra Miller, but the movie looks freaking

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dope.

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It does.

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I mean, yeah, I don't know what to say about Ezra Miller.

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They're just something else.

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Like seriously, I don't understand what goes through their head.

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I don't understand one bit what's going through Ezra's head.

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But for the time being, he is the Flash in this movie, and I guess we just have to get

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that through our heads and just deal with it.

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I'm hoping that they will be replaced.

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I really hope so.

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They're for sure getting replaced.

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Like, no freaking doubt about that.

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It sucks because I actually really liked their portrayal of the character.

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I had very the only problem I had wrong with Ezra's portrayal was the running.

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And it seems like they fixed that in this movie.

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It doesn't look like he's sorry.

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It doesn't look like they are running that way anymore, which I am grateful for because

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it was such a stupid way to run.

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But the fact still stands.

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Ezra did some very sketchy, very shitty shit.

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And he deserves to sorry, they deserve to they deserve to pay for that.

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So but that should not destroy this movie because there's a lot to love in this movie

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besides he who shall not be named.

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Shit, dude, it's a tough it's tough.

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But I mean, I'm still going to go see it regardless.

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And it's mostly because of the rest of the cast.

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I mean, we got frickin Ben Affleck in here for a little bit, at least frickin Michael

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Keaton is making his return as Batman in the most.

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I thought he was going to play old man Batman.

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He's like still in his frickin prime Batman, dude, straight up.

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I am so frickin pumped to see Michael Keaton back as as Batman, dude.

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Like, holy shit.

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Like I don't know about you, but I frickin squealed like a schoolgirl when he's just

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like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm Batman.

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I'm like, ah, he said the thing.

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Oh, I did not expect him to actually say it.

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Oh, my gosh, dude, that just got my nerd side just all types of hyped.

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Oh, dude, I even got like super.

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I nerded out when it was Barry and Ben Affleck's Bruce just chatting about the him using like

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the were they chatting about the speed force?

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I can't remember.

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I think he would.

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They were mostly discussing like talking about like changing time or messing with time.

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Yeah, that's what it was.

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Oh, dude, I geeked out over the fact that Ben Affleck is back as Batman.

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That makes me so happy.

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It's the last time he'll be back as Batman.

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But you know what?

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I'll take it.

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Yeah, I will, too.

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Dude, there was a lot in this movie that I was not expecting to see.

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Dude, I straight up didn't know that Supergirl was going to be in this movie.

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I knew Supergirl was going to be in it.

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I didn't know Zod was coming back.

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Do you know that?

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No.

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Oh, what the hell have you been?

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Just kidding.

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If you're if you count the spoilers that I got from Funko.

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Like I figured he was going to be like a cameo.

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I didn't realize he was going to be like a big part of it.

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Oh, yeah.

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All right.

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I take back my comment because yeah, I just thought he was going to be a cameo.

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Yeah, but this seems like they're going through the situation of Man of Steel again.

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Holy shit.

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Yeah, dude.

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Seriously.

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This is going to this movie is going to be sick, dude.

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Like there is nothing that they showed throughout this entire trailer that I was upset about

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in the slightest.

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Dude, straight up.

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And even the V. I mean, I know it's still early, but even the VFX looks super good right

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now.

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Yeah, friggin ridiculous.

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Dude, my favorite shot is whatever that scene was.

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And this is seriously just spoilers due to Funko.

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So if you don't want any of those skip past a little bit.

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There's a dark speedster image that I'm assuming is the dark flash.

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Or at least that's what it's referred to on the Funko boxes.

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It's dark flash.

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And they have this scene where they like back to back and they like slide and then they

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push off of each other's foot.

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Like that's that's looked friggin tight.

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Favorite scene as well.

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It was so badass.

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Yeah, it's just I hope they do some really cool stuff with with flash and his his speed.

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You know, this is going to be OK, really quickly.

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What do you think of the new suit?

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Oh, that's a tough sell.

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My same here, because I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I actually loved the suit that

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he had in Justice League and I actually wish that he still had that suit.

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I think there's there's a certain charm to I think they just went a little too extravagant

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with it.

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And what I'm talking about is mostly due to like the boots, where it seems like instead

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of it being solid boots, it's like little armored pieces of boot.

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That's fair.

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Which, I mean, it's OK.

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I would have just preferred just a solid boot, though.

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Yeah, I can I can definitely agree with you.

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And then again, like it's just it's just a little rubbery.

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I think the lines are a little too bright, or at least where it seems like it's like

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a glowing aura or light kind of going through him.

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The chest or his his emblem looks a little too bulky.

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Yeah, I can definitely agree with you.

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It's it's a tough sell.

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It is a really tough sell because it looks like it's a glass bulb.

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It does.

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And it it looks cool.

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Like don't get me wrong.

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It looks fricking awesome.

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It's I just don't know how well it works for a suit.

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Like I almost would have preferred what they've done with like the Flash CW series, where

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it's either just like a patch or like inlaid onto his suit.

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I don't know.

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I'll be interested to see what the some of the concept art for this movie, because I

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feel like Flash is such a difficult character to get just spot on.

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Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.

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And I'm sure like working against the CW show isn't helping because he's changed his outfit

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multiple times.

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Like each season, it feels like.

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So it's like they I don't feel like they have too many places they can go because it's just

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like re-exploring old suits from CW.

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So I think Warner Brothers kind of bit themselves in the ass with that one.

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But I mean, overall, the movie looks fricking awesome.

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So I'm it does.

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I'm really hyped for this one.

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What are you sitting out for?

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Hi, boys.

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Shit.

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I'm at a nine, maybe nine and a half.

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OK, damn.

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Most of that's due to freaking Michael Keaton.

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I am so excited to see Michael Keaton.

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OK.

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Fair.

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Fair enough.

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Yeah.

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What about you?

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I'm I'm actually a little lower.

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I'm at an eight.

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I'll probably need like a second trailer to get me to a nine or even maybe even a ten.

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But no, I like what I've seen so far.

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So definitely looking forward to this one.

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Yeah.

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I hope it's as good as they're.

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Claiming it is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Didn't James Gunn say is like one of the best superhero movies he's ever seen.

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So I mean, if that's the case, it definitely feels like maybe that's why Warner Brothers

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hasn't been on as harsh on Ezra as they could be.

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Because they're just like, we still need you to do some press stuff.

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Dude, I don't even know if they'll invite him on the press tour for this movie.

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I would be shocked if they do.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, if that's like my my big thing, it's just I don't know if they're going to

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if they need they just need him to stay out of the spotlight enough to like get this movie

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out.

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Yes.

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And then just pray that everyone overlooks all the crazy shit that they've done.

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Oh, so I'm very pumped.

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And this was an excellent trailer.

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Like, dude, this wasn't like in the Super Bowl, was it?

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So it so they put it on YouTube, I think like an hour before the Super Bowl started, but

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it was included in the Super Bowl as well.

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Not the full two minutes, though, right?

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Yeah.

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Well, shit.

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Okay.

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Yeah, no, when they Yeah, when I feel like when it comes to like Super Bowl ads, it's

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like a whole different playing field, because, yeah, they will they will put like full length

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trailers and jeez, I thought they still had to pay for the time like like everyone else

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does.

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Because everyone else gets like 30 seconds or so.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, I'm sure that, you know, DC and Marvel had to pay extra to show the full

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trailers for Guardians 3 in the Flash.

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But it's always really good advertising because unless you like, do not do sports at all like

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us, even if it's just watching it for the food, everyone's watching the Super Bowl.

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So everyone saw these trailers.

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True.

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But anyway, anything else you want to say about the flash?

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No, I got nothing.

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All right, neither.

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So that will conclude this segment.

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So I say let's move on to this week's headliner, where we will be breaking down Guillermo del

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Toro's Pinocchio.

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All right, like we said, we will be breaking down Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, which

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is currently available on Netflix to stream at your leisure.

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If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories

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that we individually score to come to a final Albreos letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

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music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.

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With this being an animated movie, the effects are going to kind of tie into animation and

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costumes are going to be more character design than anything.

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But with that, if you have not seen Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, Rose is about to spoil

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the entire thing for you.

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So if you listen past this point and anything is spoiled for you, it is your own damn fault.

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Damn right.

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So with that comes our favorite segment that we like to call Reading with Rose with two

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E's.

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In Italy during World War II, the carpenter Gepetto, 20 years after losing his son Carlo

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to an aerial bombardment by Austro-Hungarian forces, cuts down a pine tree, which he uses

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to create a wooden boy in a fit of drunken rage but passes out.

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The wood sprite brings the puppet to life, christening him Pinocchio, and the wood sprite

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sends him to a living Pinocchio, and assigns Sebastian J. Cricket to guide him as his conscience,

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promising Sebastian a wish in exchange.

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Gepetto wakes up to a living Pinocchio but becomes terrified and fed up with his antics,

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resulting in the village Podesta ordering Gepetto to send Pinocchio to school.

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On his way, Pinocchio is intercepted by showman Count Volpe and his monkey Spazator.

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However, Gepetto arrives to take Pinocchio back and suing a confrontation between him

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and Volpe that ends with Pinocchio being fatally hit by a truck.

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In the afterlife, he meets the wood sprite's sister Death, who explains to Pinocchio he

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is immortal and revives him when a Hau hourglass empties, cautioning him that the more he dies,

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the more time he will spend in the afterlife.

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After returning to the mortal realm and having a heated argument with Gepetto, Pinocchio

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decides to earn money for Gepetto by performing in the circus as well as to avoid being conscripted

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into the Royal Italian Army during World War II by the Podesta.

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In an attempt to reinstate himself as the circus star, a jealous Spazator reveals to

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Pinocchio that Volpe is conning him out of the money he falsely promised to send to his

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father.

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In the afterlife, Volpe viciously beats Spazatorra, upsetting Pinocchio, who tries to defend him.

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In order to sabotage Volpe, Pinocchio ridicules Benito Mussolini with a song at a performance

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who orders Pinocchio be executed and the circus burned.

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Once revived, Pinocchio finds himself being taken by the Podesta to a boot camp where

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other boys are trained to fight in the war.

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Pinocchio befriends the Podesta's son Candlewick, who is scared of disappointing his father.

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After a training game between the two teams led by Pinocchio and Candlewick ends in a

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tie, the Podesta orders Candlewick to shoot Pinocchio.

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Candlewick refuses and finally stands up to his father.

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The training camp is then bombed by allied aircraft killing the Podesta while Candlewick

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and the other boys flee.

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Pinocchio is captured by the Volpe who tries to burn him to death as revenge for ruining

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his career.

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Spazatorra saves Pinocchio, resulting in Volpe falling off a seaside cliff to his death alongside

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Pinocchio and Spazatorra during a struggle with the monkey.

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Lost at sea, Pinocchio and Spazatorra are swallowed by a giant dogfish.

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Inside the monster's belly, Pinocchio and Spazatorra find Geppetto and Sebastian who

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were also swallowed during their search for Pinocchio.

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Thanks to an idea by Sebastian, Pinocchio lies to make his nose grow into a large branch,

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thus forming a bridge leading out of the monster's blowhole, making their escape as the monster

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attempts to eat them again.

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Making their escape as the monster attempts to eat them again, Pinocchio sacrifices himself

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by detonating a naval mine inside the monster, killing them both.

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Upon meeting death again, Pinocchio demands to be sent back early to save Geppetto from

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drowning.

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Death warns him that doing so will make him mortal, but Pinocchio breaks the hourglass

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to return and ends up drowning while saving his father.

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The wood sprite reappears to a mourning Geppetto and Sebastian uses his wish to make her revive

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Pinocchio.

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Pinocchio returns home with his father, Sebastian and Spazatorra to live together as a family.

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Outliving all of his loved ones, Pinocchio decides to travel the world.

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Dude, there's a lot more to this than I've ever seen of Pinocchio ever.

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Dude, rightly.

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I've never read the book, never read the actual story of Pinocchio.

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The only Pinocchio that I know is the Disney Pinocchio.

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That's all I know.

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I mean, it's my favorite classic Disney film, but that's all I know.

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So the fact that this starts off so much darker, the themes that they have in this are just...

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This movie, I feel, is not for kids.

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Or at least very young of age.

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Yeah, this is definitely like... even preteen kind of feels like a stretch.

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Dude, right?

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Is this rated PG or is it rated PG-13?

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That is an excellent question.

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Let's find out.

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Let's look this up.

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Because, god damn.

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It is PG.

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My ass.

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What's it rated PG for?

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That's my question.

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They better point out how freaking dark this shit is.

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Oh man.

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It is... not a lot.

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Let's see.

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Violence and gore, there's not a lot.

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Profanity, none.

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Other than some name calling.

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Sex and nudity, none.

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Alcohol, drugs, and smoking is mild.

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And then frightening and intense scenes is moderate.

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I would put that as the whole damn movie.

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Yeah.

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It's because they get away...

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Oh, so here's what it's for.

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It's rated PG for dark thematic material, violence, peril, and some rude humor and brief

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smoking.

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Okay, okay, that does sum everything up, but still.

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This is a very dark...

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It's CGI... not CGI.

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Stop motion animated film.

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And I thought freaking Laika got dark with like Coraline and shit.

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No.

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Dude, it was... this was rough.

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I remember when we were watching it, it's just... it weights heavy on your soul.

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Yeah, if you want a happy-go-lucky movie to watch, go watch the Disney one.

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Don't watch this one.

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Yeah, it was freaking rough.

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The depth that they were able to... or the things that they dived into were really kind

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of relevant in a way.

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It's discussing with Geppetto dealing with the loss of his child in an extremely tragic

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way.

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I mean, luckily you don't see anything, but it's just heavily implied that it's just an

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utter nightmare.

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So what was happening, it was this... where does this take... is this Italy?

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I believe so.

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Okay, so Geppetto's building this statue of a crucified Christ for his church.

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And Carlo has the perfect pine cone that he loses and runs inside the church right as

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a bomb gets dropped on the church by Italian forces because they're just like, oh, we're

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just dropping them to drop them at this point.

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They weren't even a target.

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That village wasn't even a target.

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They were just trying to lighten their load and ended up bombing this village.

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And I think it was British forces.

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I don't know if it was Italian, but it was like, at least from what... not Jiminy, I

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guess Cricket.

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What was his full name?

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Sebastian something.

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Yeah, whatever.

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So knockoff Jiminy was saying that the village wasn't even a target.

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It was just trying to lighten their load so they could travel further to their destination.

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And so that's... it was just unnecessary violence that killed Carlo and it just completely wrecks

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Geppetto.

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And he just builds this super crude replica of his child.

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And so you're dealing with that, with those emotions from Geppetto.

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You're dealing with the issues that Pinocchio comes across with constantly feeling compared

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to Carlo because Carlo was just a really cooperative child and Pinocchio is not.

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And so you're dealing with all these different aspects of life that are very pertinent in

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reality where it's like, oh, someone's getting compared to their sibling or dealing with

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the loss of a child.

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Having to choose the easy way of making money versus knowledge and all these different aspects

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of life that the Disney version just does not get into whatsoever.

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No.

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Wait, so really quickly, I gotta put this in.

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So his name actually in the book is not even like Sebastian or Jiminy.

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It's just Talking Cricket.

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It was the Disney movie that finally actually like renames the character Jiminy Cricket

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and then Guillermo decided to adapt the character as Sebastian J. Cricket.

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So yeah, so it was just Talking Cricket.

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Very original, whoever wrote Pinocchio.

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Oh man.

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But it's just the themes that they were able to attach themselves to, even like the whole

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life and death situation is just wild.

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Dude, I don't know if that was in the book, but the fact that they introduced that in

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this, I kind of wish that that was in a Disney movie because that was such a cool idea.

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It really was.

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Anytime I feel cartoons or just animated movies are able to dive into the idea of life and

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death and the yin and yang between the two of them, it enhances the movie like a ton.

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And this was no exception.

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It was good.

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It was really freaking good.

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The only thing, like honestly, that I would have cut out from this movie would have been

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it being a musical.

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I don't think it needed to be a musical.

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Yeah, I can agree with that.

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The only music, wait, did they even have this?

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I don't think they had the song.

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I Got No Strings to Hold Me Down.

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They didn't have that in this, right?

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No, they did not.

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I was going to say, because I think Disney owns that song.

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That's like the only song I would accept in a Pinocchio movie.

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Yeah.

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Shit.

487
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:42,760
It's just story wise, dude, I have very, very little complaint.

488
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Dude, same here.

489
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,120
Other than it being a musical in an unnecessary fashion.

490
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Yes.

491
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,320
So for that, I'm not docking it too much.

492
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Honestly, I might be at like a 92.

493
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,120
I think I'm going to match you on that.

494
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,120
All right.

495
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,160
Moving on over to writing.

496
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
This is kind of where I had a bigger issue.

497
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,120
Okay.

498
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,320
And it was mainly due to some of the songs.

499
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,540
The songs just didn't, I felt they didn't have like a super solid flow to them.

500
00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:26,440
They felt very jumpy.

501
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,760
Did you feel that like it was a whole like, oh, you're telling story, wait, we got to

502
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,800
halt it so they can perform the song.

503
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,000
Okay, we're done.

504
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Let's carry on.

505
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
A little bit.

506
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,520
It's like they took a small portion of the story and then made a whole freaking song

507
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,520
about it.

508
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,320
And then it went on from there when it could have just been move the story along.

509
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,320
Yeah.

510
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Like it felt like it was like the story was coming to a complete halt.

511
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,280
That's why I hate it when people think that musicals are so easy to write.

512
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,280
They're not.

513
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,840
You have to be able to work the song in to the story and not make it seem like it's halting

514
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,520
you from moving on to the next chapter.

515
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:16,120
It has to flow flawlessly into the next segment that you're trying to do.

516
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,800
Exactly.

517
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,840
So I think this is where the movie suffered a little bit.

518
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,000
And I would say that that's a story issue, but I do feel like that's more of a writing

519
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,880
because the story itself, like if you take out those pauses, like it was really good,

520
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:37,840
had a really good flow, had a really good everything.

521
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:46,320
It's just if you're getting into the nitty gritty of what they had to write in, that's

522
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,880
one of the issues.

523
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960
It's not necessarily an issue with the story.

524
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:59,720
It's more issue with pacing or just like feeling like instead of like a good flow, it's just

525
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,720
boom, pause.

526
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,520
We got to do this song real quick and then move on.

527
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040
I do have a question really quickly.

528
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:16,200
So in the both Disney versions, when Pinocchio first comes to life to Geppetto, he's shocked

529
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,200
by it, but he just accepts it.

530
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,080
He's just like, oh my gosh, you're living everything.

531
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,880
In this version, when Pinocchio first comes to life for Geppetto, he literally just doesn't

532
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,240
want anything to do with him.

533
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,400
He's just like, you're not my son.

534
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,240
What the hell is this?

535
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,160
How did you feel about that?

536
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,280
Like that is perfectly reasonable reaction to have about a piece of wood that you drunkenly

537
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,600
carved one night coming to life.

538
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,060
Yeah.

539
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:52,640
And that keeps saying that he's your son.

540
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Yeah.

541
00:36:53,640 --> 00:37:01,480
It's like, yeah, you're not completely in the wrong, Geppetto.

542
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,320
Are you out of your mind?

543
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,840
That was something that never sat right with me about the original Pinocchio.

544
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:16,080
I'm like, he just kind of accepted the fact that Pinocchio is a talking wooden boy really

545
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,360
freaking quick.

546
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Yeah.

547
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,640
At least with this one.

548
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:29,320
Honestly, he's honestly working through accepting Pinocchio as his son throughout the whole

549
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,880
movie up until the end.

550
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,240
Yeah.

551
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:39,040
I think he takes...

552
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Geppetto throughout doesn't really treat Pinocchio like a son until way later.

553
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,160
He kind of treats him as a burden.

554
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,160
He does.

555
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520
And I actually really liked that approach.

556
00:37:58,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Yeah.

557
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:05,320
It's just more a responsibility of his than his son or his child.

558
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Because he's just like, okay, well, he had to have some officials come and talk to him

559
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,920
and be like, oh, well, your boy needs to do this or your boy needs to do this.

560
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,280
And he's like, it's not my boy.

561
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
It's like a freaking demon puppet.

562
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Can we talk about though, why is it whenever Pinocchio...

563
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,560
I feel it's this way in the Disney version, maybe in a different way, but considering

564
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,400
that the townspeople don't come to Geppetto and tell him what to do with Pinocchio, this

565
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,720
is Geppetto's own decision.

566
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:43,460
Why is it that it's always, oh, to solve all Pinocchio's problems and make sure he's good

567
00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:45,760
to go, he has to go to school?

568
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,160
If the first option...

569
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,920
Is that really the only option?

570
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,920
Yeah.

571
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,360
It's like, okay, well, he was literally alive yesterday.

572
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:04,040
So, you know, maybe let's treat the first couple days as...

573
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:11,840
Or maybe give me at least a year to actually teach him how to act before we put him into

574
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,320
learning.

575
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Let's make this like it's actual human years.

576
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Yeah, for real.

577
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
Shit.

578
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,480
They just covered...

579
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:33,080
At least with this, because it was seriously like with the live action one or the Disney

580
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,280
version too, it was seriously like next day.

581
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,480
With this, it did feel like there was a little bit more time.

582
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Not a lot more, but just enough more for it to be like, okay, now the whole school thing

583
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:55,640
makes sense because it's like he has to learn this or he has to learn that or whatever.

584
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:02,240
But I think for a highly religious town like they set this up to be, I think they jumped

585
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,760
off of the demon puppet bandwagon a little too fast for me.

586
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,760
Yeah.

587
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,240
Yeah, dude.

588
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:15,400
Especially considering when the priest gets mad at Geppetto being like, oh, so you can

589
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,320
make that wooden boy, but you can't finish our altar of Christ.

590
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,320
What the hell?

591
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Dude, that is such a ridiculous argument.

592
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Yeah.

593
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,320
I'd be like, dude, are you shitting me?

594
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Look how crappy he's built.

595
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,200
You can clearly tell I was drunk during this.

596
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Yeah, I was drunk off of my ass.

597
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,120
You freaking...

598
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,120
You freaking asshole.

599
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,080
You've seen my work, it ain't that shitty.

600
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,880
Oh my gosh.

601
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:53,680
It's like, you know what my skill level is, you prick.

602
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:59,560
Dude, the freaking, the way the Pinocchio looks, it just reminds me of, you remember Seed of

603
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Chucky when Glenn is telling Chucky and Tiffany about everything with him and Chucky's just

604
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,160
like, the kid looks like you fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch all the way

605
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,160
down.

606
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Oh yeah.

607
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Shit, dude.

608
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:21,160
That's exactly how it feels with Pinocchio.

609
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Yeah, I mean, dude, it freaking tracks though.

610
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Yeah, right?

611
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,080
It was good.

612
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:39,760
Like I said, other than the weird pauses, which kind of drops it down, not like a whole

613
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,400
ton from story, just enough.

614
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,080
I mean, I would say it knocks it into the 80s.

615
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:56,480
Yeah, that's around where I'd be sitting, but dialogue wise, I'm trying to think of

616
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,600
anything that was just odd.

617
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:12,760
I think my biggest issue, dialogue wise, had to be with Count Volpe.

618
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,600
That's fair.

619
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:23,760
I think he, it was him and what's his name?

620
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:30,880
Him and Podesta, so him and Podesta pissed me off so much.

621
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Remind me who Podesta was?

622
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,240
Podesta was the Nazi.

623
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:38,760
Oh, was he Candlewick's dad?

624
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,760
Yeah.

625
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,760
Okay.

626
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:48,520
But Count Volpe pissed me off because he's just like, oh, he's wanting reparations.

627
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:56,000
He didn't stick around to see if freaking Pinocchio would come back to life.

628
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,720
That would be my first assumption.

629
00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,360
How could he be killed?

630
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,160
Yeah, seriously.

631
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,040
But he just freaking bounces and he's just like, okay, whatever.

632
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:11,680
I don't need this and leaves.

633
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,120
Freaking Podesta jumps right on it and he's like, aha, I was right.

634
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,600
You came back to life.

635
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,600
I'm just like, so you just snatched his body?

636
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,320
How the hell that happen?

637
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,640
Yeah, dude, seriously.

638
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:33,760
Then he goes and trains Pinocchio to be a freaking Nazi, which doesn't end up working,

639
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,240
spoiler alert.

640
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:42,160
Then freaking Count Volpe comes out of the freaking woodwork after the compound gets

641
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:50,800
blown up and he's just like, I'm claiming my money and I'm like, dude, what?

642
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,400
It got real ridiculous real quick.

643
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Yeah.

644
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,080
I'm like, just get to the freaking whale.

645
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Dude, seriously.

646
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,240
This was dropped a decent chunk for me.

647
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:13,360
Where are you sitting though?

648
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,600
I would say I'm at like, I'm gonna say an 86.

649
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,720
I might be a little lower.

650
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:20,920
I'm like in an 85 or 84.

651
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,920
No, that's fair.

652
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,960
Dude, no, I get it, man.

653
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,440
All right, moving on over to acting.

654
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:34,760
We have Pinocchio slash Carlo that was voiced by Gregory Mann.

655
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,780
We have Geppetto who is voiced by David Bradley.

656
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:49,280
For those of you that don't recognize his name, he is Filch in the Harry Potter movies.

657
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:57,280
Then we have Sebastian J. Cricket, who is voiced by Ewan McGregor.

658
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Then we have like a pretty star studded cast.

659
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:13,320
The Priest was voiced by Byrne Gorman, Podesta was voiced by Ron Perlman, Dottore was voiced

660
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:21,960
by John Totoro, Candlewick was voiced by Finn Wolfhard, Spazzatura was voiced by Cate Blanchett,

661
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,680
who is a monkey.

662
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,320
Spazzatura is a monkey for those of you that...

663
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,640
I just realized that sounded like I called Cate Blanchett a monkey.

664
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:39,320
Well, I feel that there's really good reasoning though behind why she voices a monkey because

665
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,560
we watched the behind the scenes of this.

666
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,680
And apparently after she finished Nightmare Alley with Del Toro, she's like, you have

667
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,680
to put me in Pinocchio.

668
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,760
And he's like, well, the only role I have left to cast is the monkey.

669
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,080
She's like, okay, done.

670
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,080
I'm your monkey.

671
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,280
Dude, I freaking love Cate Blanchett.

672
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,280
I do too.

673
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
She's incredible.

674
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,200
Yeah, so she plays the monkey Spazzatura.

675
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,160
Tim Blake Nelson is in this.

676
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,960
He voices the Death Rabbits.

677
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,480
We have Christoph Waltz who voices Count Volpe.

678
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Tilda Swinton who voices the Wood Sprite and Death.

679
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:27,320
And then we have Tom Kenny who voices Mussolini.

680
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:33,200
And then I'm just trying to see if there's any other big names, but I'm not seeing any.

681
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,840
So yeah, pretty decent sized cast.

682
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,760
Yeah, dude, straight up.

683
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:46,080
So what does your top three look like?

684
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,980
That is an excellent question.

685
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:55,160
Number three, I would give to Tilda Swinton.

686
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160
She was fantastic as the...

687
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,360
They don't call her the Blue Fairy, right?

688
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,560
No, they call her the Wood Sprite and she also voiced Death.

689
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,880
Okay, so she's fantastic as both.

690
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,720
I feel Tilda Swinton's voice is so calming.

691
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,680
I don't know, maybe it's just me.

692
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,160
It absolutely is.

693
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,940
Okay, I'm not the only one.

694
00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:25,200
So the fact that she's playing Death is just so perfect as well as the...

695
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,560
God, I already forgot.

696
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,900
The Wood Sprite is just so great.

697
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,800
She was absolutely incredible in this movie.

698
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,320
So I would give her number three.

699
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Number two, I would give to Ewan McGregor who played Sebastian.

700
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,920
He was fantastic.

701
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,920
It's Ewan McGregor, of course he was fantastic.

702
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,480
I don't know if Ewan McGregor's done a lot of voice acting roles.

703
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,000
If he hasn't, he should do more because I feel he does a really good job.

704
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,720
I was very pleased with his Sebastian J. Cricket.

705
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,160
I thought he did a really good job.

706
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,520
And then number one, I would give David Bradley who played Geppetto.

707
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,920
I freaking loved him.

708
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:18,040
He was so good, especially the emotion that he gave when first dealing with Pinocchio

709
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:24,480
coming to life and throughout the whole movie dealing with, oh hey, you know, this puppet

710
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,920
is actually my son.

711
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,040
I need to not just throw him to the waste dump.

712
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,280
It's probably a weird way to put it.

713
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,840
Yeah, no, he was just absolutely incredible.

714
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:45,200
I don't have anything, nothing but good things to say about his portrayal.

715
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:51,720
I would put the, who plays Pinocchio again?

716
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,520
Gregory Mann.

717
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:59,280
So I would, if I had a four, if I had to do top four, I would put him at number four.

718
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Don't get me wrong, he did a great job.

719
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,440
Really really good job for a kid.

720
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:11,400
And I know this was the point, but Pinocchio was so freaking whiny that it annoyed the

721
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,680
shit out of me sometimes.

722
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:18,640
So that's why he's not in my top three.

723
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,000
He's number four.

724
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,160
I know that's what they were going for.

725
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,880
And with that, the kid did a fantastic job, but just got annoying as hell sometimes.

726
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,100
Dude, that's fair.

727
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:36,560
He hasn't been in a whole lot of stuff.

728
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,720
His IMDB is seriously three items.

729
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:40,720
Damn.

730
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:46,320
Yeah, like a movie where he plays a character called Young Eli.

731
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,320
So I'm assuming it's like a flashback scene.

732
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,360
Three episodes in the show Victoria and then Pinocchio.

733
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,560
All right.

734
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,680
So this was his big break.

735
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Yeah.

736
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Yeah.

737
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:13,080
As for Ewan McGregor, I did get a little curious just to see if he's done any other voice work,

738
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,240
which he hasn't for a really long time.

739
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,000
I feel so dumb, wasn't Beauty and the Beast Lumiere?

740
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,280
I totally forgot about that.

741
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,440
Yeah, that was the last voice acting thing that he did or most recent.

742
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
He's way better in this movie.

743
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,240
Yeah.

744
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:39,200
But he hasn't done any voice acting, not including Beauty and the Beast, but he hasn't done any

745
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:44,920
voice acting since 2005 where he was in Valiant and Robots.

746
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,760
Oh yeah, he played Rodney.

747
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,760
Yep.

748
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,440
How the hell did I forget that?

749
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,680
I freaking love that movie.

750
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,520
And then just kind of going back a little bit more.

751
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,640
Yeah, that was like...

752
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,480
So he's only done the voice in like four things.

753
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,480
Interesting.

754
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,480
Yeah.

755
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,400
And I think he definitely needs to do more.

756
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,740
He has such a great voice.

757
00:51:08,740 --> 00:51:11,920
And that's actually why I'm giving him my number one.

758
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,920
Hell yeah.

759
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:19,200
I really liked his portrayal of Sebastian Cricket.

760
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:27,840
The narration was just on point, like every single bit of it.

761
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,040
My number two...

762
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,040
This one's hard.

763
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200
I'm probably going to give to Tilda Swinton.

764
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,400
Okay.

765
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:44,080
Like her wood spray and her death voices were just perfection.

766
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Like it was so haunting the way that she spoke.

767
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,840
Like it was so good.

768
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,840
So freaking good.

769
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,740
Like absolutely no complaints with that.

770
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:07,040
My number three I'm going to give to Geppetto, voiced by David Bradley.

771
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:17,200
I think he offered a much more interesting take to Geppetto as a character.

772
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:18,800
Not even that long into the movie.

773
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:27,120
I actually started caring about Geppetto more than I ever cared for the Disney version.

774
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Like either versions.

775
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,680
I would say I care about him as much as I did the original.

776
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Not Tom Hanks' version though.

777
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,720
That's still a tough sell for me.

778
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,640
But yeah, he's been my favorite adaptation of Geppetto.

779
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:53,120
And then like you, my number four would go to Pinocchio, Gregory Mann.

780
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,240
He was just really freaking whiny and annoying.

781
00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:59,720
And I know that was kind of the point.

782
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:06,280
But it was even after he got to a point where he was supposed to be the sentimental character

783
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:13,640
that he was still like super annoying.

784
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,520
And this is nothing against him as like acting credit.

785
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:26,480
But his freaking, the first song that he sings makes me want to like jump off a cliff.

786
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Damn.

787
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,160
It is so freaking annoying, dude.

788
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:36,840
I would rather listen to Nails on a Chalkboard.

789
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,840
It was such an annoying song.

790
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:45,680
And that's, it's that song alone that makes me feel like they needed to just cut everything

791
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,760
musically.

792
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,480
So yeah, that's what my ranking looks like.

793
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,240
What are you sitting at with your acting score?

794
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:02,080
I would say I'm definitely higher than writing.

795
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,720
Overall, the main cast was great.

796
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,160
The extras were super good.

797
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:12,480
I don't really have any problems with any of the voice acting.

798
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Everyone did a great job.

799
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,960
So I'm trying to think.

800
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Let's, I'm going to go solid 90.

801
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,920
90 is not bad.

802
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,600
I'm not quite there yet.

803
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,840
I am in agreeance with you.

804
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,320
I am higher than writing.

805
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:42,440
I feel like for me it was a lot of the extras that kind of brought things down.

806
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:48,920
Like I didn't care for Finn Wolfhard's Candlewick.

807
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,920
You know what?

808
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,240
I actually forgot about him.

809
00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,520
I'm going to actually knock mine down a point to 89 because of that.

810
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,880
I forgot about that.

811
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,280
Yeah.

812
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,800
So my acting, I'm sitting at like an 86, just a little higher than my writing.

813
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,040
But yeah.

814
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,960
Moving on over to character development.

815
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,240
This I thought was really good.

816
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:19,520
Yeah, it was.

817
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:23,800
This I would dare say is on the same level as like story for me.

818
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:29,880
Like the way that you, and it's kind of hard to do like one or the other, like when it

819
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:36,240
comes to like character development, because like their stories just entwined so well.

820
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:47,560
It's between Pinocchio and Geppetto and like Geppetto's eventual acceptance of Pinocchio

821
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:55,360
dealing with, because we see like Geppetto's on like a high when he's with his son, like

822
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,440
Carlo.

823
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:04,280
And as soon as his son's taken from him, he just drops down into the freaking dirt.

824
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,280
Yep.

825
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,840
Shut down completely honestly.

826
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,840
Yeah.

827
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:20,280
And we see him like kind of build himself back up into being open to accepting or giving his love to Pinocchio.

828
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,600
Yeah.

829
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,840
And that's just like a really sweet story in itself.

830
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:33,720
And then with Pinocchio, we get to see someone who's struggling to kind of find his place

831
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:42,840
in the world, but eventually finds it after becoming a real boy.

832
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,960
I'm a real boy.

833
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:57,640
Dude, that is one of the best scenes in that first Shrek movie.

834
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,640
Love that scene.

835
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Oh man.

836
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:07,160
But it's a good arc when you get down to the nitty gritty of it.

837
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Yeah.

838
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,960
It really is for both characters.

839
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Like comparing this storyline to how it is in like both Disney adaptations, yeah, you

840
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,880
get some character growth, more so with Pinocchio than Geppetto.

841
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,960
But I just love in this one, you really get both.

842
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:32,000
And like I know it's not the best idea to, you know, like trying to work with two character

843
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,440
developments, but I feel it's hard to pick between the two.

844
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,960
So like just trying to base it off, like combine both into one.

845
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:49,320
But yeah, I really I have like little to no problems with this character development.

846
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,360
What Garamo was able to do with it.

847
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,960
Truly, truly incredible.

848
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Yeah.

849
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:05,480
It's interesting the way that he was kind of using the different stories that were being

850
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:14,520
told like in the overall adventure that Pinocchio was on to kind of use them as building blocks

851
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,960
to the Pinocchio that we eventually got.

852
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,640
Yes.

853
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:28,440
And like, like I really liked when he was in the compound and they were training and

854
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,400
how him and Candle, was it Candlewick?

855
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Yep.

856
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,400
Yeah.

857
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Almost called Candlestick.

858
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:44,120
Anyway, but how him and Candlewick kind of grew a friendship when Pinocchio's innocence

859
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:51,160
was kind of rubbing off on him on Candlewick and realizing that like, oh, you shouldn't

860
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:57,760
be trying this hard to win the approval of your father.

861
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:06,440
And like talking about their fear, or at least Candlewick's fear of death and like all that

862
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,440
stuff.

863
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,280
It's just, it was just, it was really well done.

864
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,240
And then like, eventually you get to see him take a more like firm stance, like kind of

865
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:23,480
take like a Candlewick approach where he's just willing to stand up for what he feels

866
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,440
is right.

867
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,080
And Candlewick does like the same thing.

868
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:34,860
Like he stands up for what he feels is right and like wants to fight for the affection

869
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:42,080
of his father, which I mean, ultimately ends up in, I'm assuming all of them dying.

870
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,120
Fair.

871
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:51,400
But still, it's just like building blocks, like I said, it's just, we get to see the

872
00:59:51,400 --> 01:00:02,080
progression and I think Guillermo did a really, really good job at sharing that story.

873
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,880
So character development, I think I'm on the like the same level as story.

874
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,920
So I'm sitting at like a 92.

875
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,520
It's gonna match you on that as well.

876
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:17,440
All right, moving on over to effects, which in this segment is probably covering like

877
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,760
the animation style.

878
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,440
And I think I've expressed this before.

879
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:31,840
I am personally not a big fan of stop motion animation, but I appreciate the art.

880
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,440
And I respect that.

881
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:39,960
Yeah, like the artistry that goes into this is just out of this world.

882
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:49,400
It really is just the fact of literally having to move a clay figure just slightly, barely

883
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,980
any movement.

884
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,560
Take a picture, move it just a little bit more.

885
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,560
Take a picture.

886
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,960
It's incredible.

887
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:02,560
How just literally you would you literally spend like a whole day's work just moving

888
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,920
a character's arm just up and down for one scene.

889
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,560
And it's truly incredible.

890
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,920
I'm probably over exaggerating here.

891
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,400
I don't think it would take that long.

892
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,400
I don't know.

893
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,480
I mean, I actually maybe would.

894
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,160
I don't really know.

895
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,120
I've never worked with stop motion at all.

896
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,120
I wish I would.

897
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,160
I would love to do that.

898
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:28,120
But yeah, it's it's honestly my favorite type of animation.

899
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:34,640
And so whenever I see something like like this, Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio or anything

900
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,440
that like it does with Coraline or Walson Gromit, I'm just in awe.

901
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:41,880
And I appreciate it so much.

902
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,640
And I love it so much.

903
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,640
Yeah, dude, it it's incredible.

904
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,900
I just looked up how long it takes to do stop motion.

905
01:01:53,900 --> 01:02:00,840
They say it takes five to 10 or every day.

906
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,000
They're able to get five to 10 seconds of footage done.

907
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Holy shit.

908
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,920
OK, so I wasn't over exaggerating with the whole hand movement.

909
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,920
No, it's ridiculous.

910
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:12,920
Dude.

911
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:18,680
Oh, it's such a craft and I love it so much and I respect everyone that works in this

912
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,680
field.

913
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,520
Dude, absolutely.

914
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,680
And if you watch the behind the scenes, it's like they weren't just dealing with one size

915
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,720
puppet.

916
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,820
They built puppets for close ups.

917
01:02:29,820 --> 01:02:35,840
They built puppets that were like extremely small because they they had to build off of

918
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,840
scale.

919
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:47,920
And so like when they wanted to do close ups of Pinocchio and and Sebastian, the cricket,

920
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:53,160
like they had to have the properly scaled pieces.

921
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,920
And that was like a big struggle of theirs that they dealt with a lot.

922
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:03,480
And they had some that were maybe the size of of your pinky, at least when it came in

923
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:09,000
regards to Sabat or Sebastian Cricket.

924
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,040
Like they had one of his that was like the size of your pinky that they had to manipulate.

925
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,480
And then they had one that was like a big size puppet.

926
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:29,880
And so they had to build a Pinocchio that was to scale of that Jiminy or the Sebastian.

927
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,720
And it looks so cool.

928
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,720
It's ridiculous.

929
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,360
I wish they released more of the behind the scenes footage.

930
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,000
Dude, me too.

931
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,600
I don't know if this is getting a blur release.

932
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,600
I really hope it does.

933
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:48,480
But if it does, I hope they add more special feature wise with that shit, because I would

934
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,320
love to see more.

935
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,720
That would be incredible.

936
01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:02,920
I mean, animation wise, everything looked perfect.

937
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,920
Yeah.

938
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,920
This is I'm in the high 90s.

939
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,520
I'm trying to think if there's any reason whatsoever to not be at 100.

940
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,880
I have no reasoning.

941
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,160
So I'm going 100.

942
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,320
Yeah.

943
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:25,920
I can't think of any good reason why not to be at 100 as well.

944
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,920
Stop motion is it's just perfect.

945
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:36,520
Like the amount, the attention to detail that you have to have to do something like that

946
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,000
is just outstanding.

947
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,600
Yeah.

948
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:46,720
So the animators deserve every single one of those points.

949
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,240
Yes, they do.

950
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Moving on over to music.

951
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,280
This is where I have issues.

952
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,000
Yeah, same here.

953
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,200
I mean, the soundtrack.

954
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:06,560
Okay, I'm a little I need to put try and set my bias aside because I personally did not

955
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,560
care for this soundtrack.

956
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,920
Yeah, I can agree with you.

957
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,480
It wasn't that great.

958
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:13,960
Yeah, but I don't know.

959
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:21,720
I'm like I said, I'm trying to set aside my bias because for what they were going for,

960
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,520
it wasn't bad.

961
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:28,800
It did kind of put a halt on the story, which you kind of don't want to happen.

962
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,040
But the songs themselves weren't bad.

963
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,400
They worked with the scene really well.

964
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:41,040
They I think they got across all the emotion that they wanted to.

965
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,120
So I mean, I might be at like an eight.

966
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,120
I can match that.

967
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,120
All right.

968
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:55,600
Next up, we got costumes, which for this is going to be more like character design.

969
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:01,920
I actually I did not think that I was going to like the character design of Pinocchio

970
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,560
because it's so different from what the Disney one looked like.

971
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,000
He has no clothes.

972
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:15,480
He's just bare he's butt naked, even though he's made of wood, he's still butt naked.

973
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:22,480
But I ended up falling in love with this design for what Guillermo set out to do with this

974
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,480
version.

975
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:30,760
This the way that Pinocchio is Pinocchio is designed is just so perfect.

976
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,240
That goes for honestly every character.

977
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,920
I have very little problems with the character designs for these.

978
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,760
Freaking Geppetto looked great.

979
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Sebastian especially looked fantastic.

980
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,120
I don't know what else to say.

981
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,600
I don't really have any critiques on the character design.

982
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,840
Even the what would fairy right?

983
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:52,840
Yeah.

984
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:53,840
Yeah.

985
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,080
What fairy and death looked amazing as well.

986
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,560
Oh my God.

987
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,360
Fantastic designs on those two.

988
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,840
Yeah, forget I loved it all.

989
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,160
So what are you sitting at with your costume score?

990
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,440
Costumes I would be at a nine.

991
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,120
Oh damn.

992
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:18,480
Oh man my.

993
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:19,960
I okay.

994
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,360
Let me get this out of the way first.

995
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,000
Pinocchio.

996
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,480
Sebastian.

997
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:34,400
The wood sprites and like the death rabbits and basically any non-human character.

998
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,320
Looked amazing.

999
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,920
Love their design.

1000
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,160
I think Pinocchio has his own iconic look now.

1001
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,020
Yeah, I can agree with that.

1002
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:52,440
So I will definitely be giving points for that.

1003
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,160
Where I am going to dock.

1004
01:07:54,160 --> 01:08:02,200
I did not care for Geppetto's look very much.

1005
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:09,440
I know that they were trying to make him look kind of tattered and dirty and all that good

1006
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,680
stuff and it worked.

1007
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,280
Like it was fine.

1008
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:20,840
Like he's probably the human character that I have the least issues with.

1009
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,760
Okay.

1010
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,720
All the other ones like.

1011
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:33,720
Count Volpe or Podesto or Candlewick.

1012
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,800
I'll even say Carlo when we do see him.

1013
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:47,680
I put their design on the same level as the puppets from LazyTown.

1014
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,920
Whoa.

1015
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,440
You did not.

1016
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,360
I am sorry.

1017
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,360
I had to.

1018
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,360
You mother.

1019
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,360
I am just kidding.

1020
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:08,000
See, the designs in this movie, the way the humans looked, reminded me a lot of how Leica

1021
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,760
made the humans look in the box trolls.

1022
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,640
And I actually really liked how they looked.

1023
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,240
When it comes to doing this kind of design for humans, I feel I have a soft spot for

1024
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,240
it.

1025
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,080
I feel like I have more than others because a lot of people that I talk to are like you,

1026
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:31,840
Caleb, where they're just like, it's a hit and miss for me.

1027
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,760
So yeah, like I have nothing wrong with these designs.

1028
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,960
I feel that they work and I enjoy them, but that's just me.

1029
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,960
They work.

1030
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,880
Like I'm not going to argue like that they do or don't work.

1031
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:55,400
I just personally feel like they're a LazyTown level character design.

1032
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,160
And that is so cold.

1033
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,160
Rude.

1034
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,040
I'll take it.

1035
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,040
Yeah.

1036
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,080
There's no change in my mind there.

1037
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,280
But I will say the human characters are kind of a smaller part.

1038
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:18,680
So I will give points where points are due.

1039
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:26,240
And I, I, okay, my real score, I'd be at like an eight and a half, but we don't have an

1040
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,880
eight and a half.

1041
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,720
So I will happily round up to a nine.

1042
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,720
We'll thank you.

1043
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:36,720
Yeah.

1044
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:43,480
But I would say that an eight, like knowing that we would have to round down to an eight

1045
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:48,600
would not make me feel good when I know in my heart that I would be sitting at an eight

1046
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,600
and a half.

1047
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,600
All right.

1048
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:51,600
Fair enough.

1049
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,600
Yeah.

1050
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:53,600
So we'll, we'll, we'll bump that.

1051
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,480
But anyway, all right.

1052
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:59,280
Last up, we got our own personal score.

1053
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,320
Rose, you want to take this one?

1054
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,720
I would love to.

1055
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,880
So this movie was such a huge surprise for me.

1056
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,360
I had, I had intended watching this.

1057
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:17,160
But when I went up to Georgia, Caleb suggested, oh, hey, you know, like let's, let's watch

1058
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,160
Pinocchio together.

1059
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:19,800
So I'm like, yeah, why not?

1060
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,800
Let's do it.

1061
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:25,080
And I was so pleasantly surprised of how much I enjoyed this adaptation.

1062
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,240
It's so different from the Disney versions, but in the best way possible.

1063
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:37,280
And it's definitely the best portrayal of Pinocchio of 2022 compared to the Disney live

1064
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,960
action one, which absolutely sucked.

1065
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:49,560
So yeah, I, from the, the much darker story, its themes to the character design, the voice

1066
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,040
acting, just everything is so solid.

1067
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,040
It's so good.

1068
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,360
And I love the direction that Guillermo took his version of Pinocchio.

1069
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,360
He did such an amazing job.

1070
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,720
See, I have, I have very little problems with this movie.

1071
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,440
I had such a great time.

1072
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:09,800
So I'm pretty damn high.

1073
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,840
I'm at a 96.

1074
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Oh damn.

1075
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,520
Yeah.

1076
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,300
I had a really good time with this movie too.

1077
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:22,600
Not nearly as much of a good time as I, as you did.

1078
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,760
I'm kind of a Pinocchio whore.

1079
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,080
So that's apparent.

1080
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,240
I yeah, I just love the story of Pinocchio.

1081
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:31,240
Yeah.

1082
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:37,200
I, I'm very hit and miss with the, the Pinocchio tale.

1083
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:45,880
It's not one of my first go-tos when it, when I think like classic children's stories, even

1084
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:50,240
when it comes to like classic Disney, like there are other movies that I would watch

1085
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:55,560
before Pinocchio.

1086
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:03,480
But it's just mainly because I haven't enjoyed that story as much as other people have.

1087
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:05,960
But this story was really well done.

1088
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:15,360
Kind of a reignited my appreciation for the story of Pinocchio.

1089
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:23,400
Kind of makes me want to kind of do a deep dive on the character and see how accurate

1090
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,480
this version is compared to like the original tale.

1091
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:38,080
But yeah, like, like, like you said, it's a, it's a good time if you go into it with

1092
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:43,960
the expectations that, that we had for it.

1093
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:49,160
So I might be a little harsher on it, but I, I'm still fairly high.

1094
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,200
I'll be at like an 85.

1095
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,200
Okay.

1096
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,480
That's my personal score.

1097
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:55,920
Alrighty.

1098
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:09,040
So with that, starting off with story, we started off with a 92.

1099
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Our writing averaged out to an 85.

1100
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,600
So just kind of a little lower than, than story.

1101
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,240
Our acting got bumped up a little bit, sitting at an 87.5.

1102
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,280
Character development got a decent bump sitting at a 92.

1103
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:30,040
The effects just out of this world, sitting at a hundred.

1104
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:36,220
Music fairly average, but good, but like, like really good.

1105
01:14:36,220 --> 01:14:39,640
So we gave it, ended up giving it an eight.

1106
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:46,200
The character design or costumes were sitting at a solid nine.

1107
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:51,840
And then our personal score averaged out to a 90.5.

1108
01:14:51,840 --> 01:15:01,640
So with that, the final all bros letter grade for Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio has come

1109
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:06,960
to a, a minus.

1110
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:07,960
Yes.

1111
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,960
I love it.

1112
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:16,640
Dude, I, I'm shocked if I'm being a hundred percent honest here.

1113
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,640
You didn't think it was going to make eight here?

1114
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,080
I did not think it was going to make eight here.

1115
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:28,200
I thought it was going to be like a super strong B plus, but like, it's not anything

1116
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:36,200
I'm upset about at all, but it surprising, very surprising.

1117
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,400
So it's actually, let's see.

1118
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,400
Where is it?

1119
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,400
Okay.

1120
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,120
So it's on the weaker side.

1121
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:49,120
It's one of our lower a minus movies, but it's so it's sitting at a 90.25%.

1122
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,120
Okay.

1123
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,400
So like just barely squeaked about.

1124
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,400
Yeah.

1125
01:15:55,400 --> 01:16:03,400
So it's sitting perfectly tied with us and soul.

1126
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,400
Ooh, okay.

1127
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,560
Yeah.

1128
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:13,080
So all those movies are on the same level and that is not hard to disagree with.

1129
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,840
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

1130
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,840
Yeah.

1131
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:20,740
So going, so going up.

1132
01:16:20,740 --> 01:16:24,440
So these are other a minus movies to compare this to.

1133
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:31,480
So like I said, it's on the same level as us and soul, um, setting at a 90.25.

1134
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:42,900
So that puts it below 1917, which we had at a 90.37, um, as well as little women, which

1135
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:46,600
is at a 90.61.

1136
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:55,320
Then it is below weird, the Ali Yankovic story and Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness,

1137
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,160
which are both sitting at a 90.62.

1138
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:04,880
It is below Sonic the hedgehog to, which is at a 90.66.

1139
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:11,960
And then finally it is below promising young woman, which is at a 90.75.

1140
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:17,720
Going the opposite direction, it is sitting above the matrix.

1141
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:25,880
The first one, which is adding 90.24 and then going into the B plus range.

1142
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:32,080
It is above rocket man, which is at an 89.91.

1143
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,480
It is above the Avengers, which is at an 89.88.

1144
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:37,480
Yeah.

1145
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:40,760
It doesn't that one kind of sting a little bit.

1146
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,440
A little bit.

1147
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:50,040
It's above Dawn of the planet of the apes, which is at an 89.87.

1148
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:56,560
And then finally it is above elf, which is at an 89.85.

1149
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,560
Not too shabby.

1150
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:58,560
Yeah.

1151
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Not too, not too shabby at all.

1152
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Um, I will say, I think I know where it, where it scored above the Avengers and I think it

1153
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:14,920
had to do with, uh, with music and maybe the character development.

1154
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:20,000
See, I would argue that's hard because like, I feel the Avengers theme is pretty much the

1155
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:27,680
music has become so well known that like, I would arguably give the Avengers, um, music

1156
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:28,840
like a 10.

1157
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,160
You are out of your mind.

1158
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,420
If you think that Avengers deserved a 10.

1159
01:18:34,420 --> 01:18:36,000
Have you heard that theme?

1160
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,520
Name one other song.

1161
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,520
Damn it.

1162
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,520
Okay.

1163
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:40,840
That is exactly what I thought.

1164
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,840
Fine.

1165
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,840
A nine.

1166
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:49,960
Dude, you are out of your freaking mind.

1167
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:50,960
Kiss my ass.

1168
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,960
All right.

1169
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:59,160
Just for shits and giggles now, uh, I want to see where the Avengers, like where it actually

1170
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,780
got its, uh, okay.

1171
01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:07,560
So music, we were, it's actually tied with Pinocchio sitting at an eight.

1172
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,560
Should have been a nine.

1173
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,560
Um, all right.

1174
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:12,800
Let's see.

1175
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:19,160
So we gave, we gave Avengers a higher story.

1176
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:27,080
We gave it a high, we gave it higher writing, higher acting, lower character development,

1177
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:38,960
lower effects, same, same music, lower costumes, and our personal score was higher.

1178
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:39,960
Okay.

1179
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,320
How does that work?

1180
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,800
Oh, good point.

1181
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,040
Oh, wait.

1182
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,040
I'm sorry.

1183
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,920
I think I said higher character development.

1184
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,320
It actually got lower character development.

1185
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,480
Oh, okay.

1186
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:55,480
So yeah, I was right.

1187
01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:57,800
It was, it was, okay.

1188
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:03,120
So it was effects and character development that killed Avengers.

1189
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,280
Damn.

1190
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,280
Which is fair.

1191
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,280
Yeah.

1192
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,280
I mean, it's valid.

1193
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,040
Doesn't feel good, but it's valid.

1194
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,520
Yeah, true that.

1195
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:20,440
But anyway, I think it has a pretty decent home.

1196
01:20:20,440 --> 01:20:22,120
I agree.

1197
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,920
Um, so unless you have anything else to say about this movie.

1198
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,200
No, I got nothing.

1199
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:35,640
Yeah, I do believe that that concludes this week's episode.

1200
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,540
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1201
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:43,560
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1203
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,720
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1204
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,400
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1205
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,760
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1206
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:06,320
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1207
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,200
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1208
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,880
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1209
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:11,800
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1210
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,360
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1211
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:23,600
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1212
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:32,360
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1213
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:39,720
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1214
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:45,640
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1215
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:54,680
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1216
01:21:54,680 --> 01:22:00,680
installment, Ant-Man and the Wasp quantumania.

1217
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,280
Hopefully with special guest, we'll figure that one out.

1218
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,280
Hopefully.

1219
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:12,520
But yeah, so that is something you guys can look forward to next week until then.

1220
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,600
This has been the all bros podcast.

1221
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:19,920
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we will catch you guys next week.

1222
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,120
This is so long.

1223
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:40,100
Nice.