1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:25,280 What's up bros, I'm Jonathan. 2 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,280 And I'm Caleb. 3 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,760 We're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out 4 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,960 there with as little bias as possible. 5 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Welcome to the All Bros. 6 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,920 This week on the podcast we got one item in 4k spotlight and boy is it a good one. 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,880 I'm so excited to pick this one up on 4k. 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,360 We got nothing for through the wall. 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,760 It's kind of a dry week. 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,560 So after that we'll be moving on to our headliner which will be our breakdown of Ant-Man and 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,120 the Wasp, Quantumania. 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 So Caleb, what do you say we get started? 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,440 I say let's do it. 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Need motivation? 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Angry Dad Podcast. 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Trying to jump start your life? 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Angry Dad Podcast. 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,200 You want help getting off the couch? 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,280 Angry Dad Podcast. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,320 You need a verbal kick in the ass? 21 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:08,320 Angry Dad Podcast. 22 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:10,520 You want to hear from somebody who's been through it all? 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Angry Dad Podcast. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,880 I am here for you. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,680 You can find me on all podcast platforms. 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Alright, so getting started with 4k spotlight. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,200 This week we got Puss in Boots, The Last Wish. 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,800 The sequel that arguably is better than the first Puss in Boots. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,280 So, so freaking good. 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,640 And if you guys want to hear our review of that be sure to check out our episode of that 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,640 that came out a couple weeks ago. 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Or I guess like, what, like two? 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Oh, has it been a couple weeks or has it been like a month or so now? 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 It hasn't been too long. 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,080 It's actually been a while. 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Oh, okay. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,120 Let's see, it's one, two, three, seven weeks. 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Okay, shit. 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Oh, I didn't know it was that long. 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Yeah, it's been a hot minute. 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,080 But anyway, so unfortunately it's not getting any exclusives. 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,120 It feels like this is the way that DreamWorks is now. 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,120 It sucks. 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Oh wait, I just lied. 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Never mind. 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,720 I'm like all scrolling through blu-ray.com and all of a sudden a Target exclusive pops 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,720 up. 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,920 But okay, so there's not going to be any steelbook or anything, but at Target there's going to 49 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:25,520 be a version that comes with a 40 page filmmaker gallery book. 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Now it's only available on the blu-ray. 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,280 There's no 4k exclusive for that. 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,400 I don't think, no offense, I don't really care enough about that to just buy it on blu-ray. 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,480 I will definitely be getting the 4k of this one. 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,800 I'm so freaking, son of a bitch, there's another exclusive. 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,760 I thought there wasn't any. 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,080 Ain't that the shit? 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Dude, this is freaking bullshit. 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,120 Where, where the hell is this limited edition gift set going? 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Okay, I guess this isn't going anywhere, but I guess if you want to get the limited edition 60 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:07,040 gift set, it includes the movie and Puss in Boots and Parosqueeze toys. 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,880 So I guess it includes, I guess it includes cat, I don't know if these are supposed to 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,220 be cat toys or dog toys. 63 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:17,120 Or both. 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,260 Or maybe they're just toys, I have no idea. 65 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:24,160 But wouldn't it make sense to make them dog and cat toys for a movie like this? 66 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,400 You would think. 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,160 I think that'd be a really cool option where it's like one of them has a cat toy and the 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,640 other has a dog toy. 69 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,640 Yeah, that'd be really cool. 70 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,700 But I don't know if it's either of those or if it's just toys. 71 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:46,000 But as far as I can see, and I swear to, I swear if there's another exclusive that I'm 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,560 missing I'm going to lose my shit. 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Okay, there is nothing. 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,800 So it's just those two exclusives and then the regular Blu-ray and 4K. 75 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,360 And I will absolutely be picking up the 4K of that. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,280 But there is actually, sorry Caleb, I know I do this often, I missed one new release 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,280 coming out. 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,600 It's that, do you have a comment? 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Yeah, I was just going to say you son of a bitch. 80 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Shut up. 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:24,160 You do this every freaking week. 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,920 I don't do it every week. 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,600 I only do it every once in a while. 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,880 There's maybe been a handful of times where you haven't. 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,800 You know what, you can kiss my ass. 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Anyway, so the other big new release coming out is the Whitney Houston biopic, Whitney 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,720 Houston I Want to Dance with Somebody, which I never saw. 88 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,520 I don't even know if a lot of people saw it. 89 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,040 I don't think it did that well at the box office. 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,520 But I heard it was decent. 91 00:04:53,520 --> 00:05:00,720 Yeah, I hear those usually, those biopics usually are typically pretty solid. 92 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Yeah, it's very rare that one sucks. 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,880 So if you want to pick that up, that is also coming to Blu-ray this week. 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,000 No 4K of that, so just a Blu-ray of that. 95 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,240 But so that is all of the 4Ks coming out this week. 96 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,720 And I apologize that I missed that one. 97 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,920 You should be. 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Kiss my ass. 99 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:37,580 Anywho, what do you say we move on to our... 100 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:41,920 Since there's no... god damn it, I'm already screwing this up. 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,920 Since there's nothing to talk about for Through the Wall, what do you say we move on to our 102 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,920 headliner? 103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Say let's do it. 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:15,640 Alright so for this week's headliner, we will be breaking down Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantum 105 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,320 Media. 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,840 So Caleb, do you want to let people know how we break down movies on this podcast? 107 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:24,200 I would love to. 108 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,100 If you're new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories 109 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:35,520 that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade. 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:42,320 This letter grade gives us a percentage to compare this movie of... or to kind of give 111 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,680 us a ranking, but the letter grade is the most important thing just so we have an idea 112 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 of where to group this movie in. 113 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,320 So the eight categories that we score... 114 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,480 I kind of jacked that up a little bit too. 115 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,680 The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects, 116 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,400 music, costumes, and then we give our own personal score at the very end. 117 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:11,160 All of those numbers get magically added up in our algorithm and spit out a letter grade 118 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:20,120 for us to compare for movies of a similar grade, as well as a percentage that will give 119 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,280 us an official ranking. 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:31,240 So if you have not seen Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantum Mania, it is still pretty fresh in 121 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,400 theaters, at least as of our current recording. 122 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Literally, it's only been in theaters for what, like five days? 123 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Yeah, not too long. 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:49,600 So if you've not seen it, definitely go check it out and then come back and listen to this. 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Spoilers galore. 126 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Yeah. 127 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:58,920 So if you don't want the beginning of Phase 5 to be spoiled, stay away for the time being. 128 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Yeah. 129 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Definitely come back and listen, but avoid. 130 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:12,120 So if you listen past this point and have not seen the new MCU movie, it is your own 131 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,000 damn fault that anything is spoiled for you. 132 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Yep. 133 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Hell yeah. 134 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,160 Well now, let's enter my favorite segment, or everyone else's favorite segment, it ain't 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 my favorite segment. 136 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Reading with Rose, with two E's. 137 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,600 All right. 138 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,360 During her days of entrapment in the Quantum Realm, Janet Van Dyne encounters Kang, an 139 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,880 exiled traveler who claims they can both escape from the realm if she can help him rebuild 140 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,060 the Multiversal Power Core. 141 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:49,720 After they manage to repair it, Janet sees a vision of Kang conquering and destroying 142 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,960 entire timelines. 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Kang reveals he was exiled by his own variants out of fear, which drives Janet to turn on 144 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,760 him. 145 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:04,420 Outmatched, Janet uses her Pym Particles to enlarge the Power Core and render it unusable. 146 00:09:04,420 --> 00:09:12,760 In the present day, after the Battle of Earth, Scott Lang has become a successful memoirist 147 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,560 and has been living happily with his girlfriend Hope Van Dyne. 148 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:20,720 Scott's now teenage daughter Cassie has become a political activist, resulting in her spending 149 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,440 some time in jail before being bailed out by her father. 150 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,140 While visiting Hope's parents, Hank Pym and Janet, Cassie reveals that she has been working 151 00:09:28,140 --> 00:09:31,320 on a device that can make contact with the Quantum Realm. 152 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Upon learning of this, Janet panics and forcefully shuts off the device, but the message is received, 153 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,360 resulting in a portal that opens and pulls the five of them into the Quantum Realm. 154 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,160 Scott and Cassie are found by natives who are rebelling against their ruler, while Hope, 155 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,680 Janet, and Hank explore a sprawling city to get answers. 156 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:53,360 Hope, Janet, and Hank meet with Lord Krylar, a former ally of Janet's, who reveals that 157 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,520 things have changed since she left, and that he is now working for Kang, who is now the 158 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,080 realm's ruler. 159 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,520 The three are forced to flee and steal Krylar's ship. 160 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:09,840 The Langs, meanwhile, are told by rebel leader Jentora that Janet's involvement with Kang 161 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,400 is indirectly responsible for his rise to power. 162 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:18,320 The rebels soon come under attack by Kang's forces led by Modoc, who is revealed to be 163 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Darren Cross, having survived his apparent death at Scott's hands. 164 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:36,120 The Langs are taken to Kang, who demands that Scott helps get his power core back, or else 165 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,080 he will kill Cassie. 166 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Scott is taken to the core's location and shrinks down. 167 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,840 He is nearly drowned in a sea of variants of himself, but Hope arrives and helps him 168 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,320 acquire the power core. 169 00:10:46,320 --> 00:11:15,680 However, Kang reneges on the deal, capturing Janet and destroying her ship with Hank on 170 00:11:15,680 --> 00:11:16,680 it. 171 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,160 After being rescued by his aunts, who were also pulled into the Quantum Realm, rapidly 172 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,000 evolved and became hyper-intelligent, Hank helps Scott and Hope as they make their way 173 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 to Kang. 174 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:32,320 Cassie rescues Jentora and they commence an uprising against Kang and his army. 175 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,080 During the fight, Cassie appeals to Cross and convinces him to turn sides and fight 176 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,720 Kang, though he sacrifices his life in the process. 177 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Janet fixes the power core as she, Hank, Hope, and Cassie jump through a portal home, but 178 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,200 Kang attacks Scott, nearly beating him into submission. 179 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Hope returns and, together with Scott, destroys the power core and not Kang into it, causing 180 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,160 him to be pulled into oblivion. 181 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Cassie reopens the portal on her end for Scott and Hope to return home. 182 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,000 As Scott happily resumes his life, he begins to rethink what he was told about Kang's 183 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,680 death, being the start of something terrible happening, but brushes it off. 184 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:16,760 In a mid-credit scene, numerous variants of Kang meet to discuss the Conqueror's death 185 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:21,880 and plan their uprising, concerned by the increasing interest in the multiverse by the 186 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,440 heroes of Earth-616. 187 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:31,000 In a post-credit scene, Loki and Mobius locate another Kang variant named Victor Timely on 188 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Earth in the 1900s. 189 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:53,320 This is going to be a really tough breakdown for me, at least, because there are so many 190 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:59,080 issues I have with this and it's kind of been hard to figure out where to place them. 191 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,080 That's, like, honestly, I feel you there. 192 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:08,400 I mean, like, my biggest problem was definitely Modok, I'm not gonna lie. 193 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,960 But there are, like, other problems I have, like, spilled throughout the movie. 194 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,080 But I don't know about you. 195 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,960 We're definitely getting into Modok. 196 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Yeah. 197 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,120 I don't know about you, but this... 198 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,640 I can't decide if this is my favorite of the trilogy. 199 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,520 It's either this or the second one. 200 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Dungenbrough, I really like the first Ant-Man, but I just love so much when they brought 201 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,480 in the Wasp that she, like, makes the movies that she's in my favorites. 202 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,160 So I can't decide if it's the second or third, but it's, like, close. 203 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,720 Dude, it was almost difficult for me to think, like, why are you calling this Ant-Man and 204 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,720 the Wasp? 205 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,480 Like, this is more Ant-Man and Stinger. 206 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Yeah, right? 207 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Yeah, seriously. 208 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:01,760 And that sucks because, frickin', not only is her costume in this movie so comic accurate, 209 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,760 it's incredible. 210 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,040 Like, oh my god, it's amazing. 211 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,200 But how can you waste such an amazing talent as Evangeline Lilly? 212 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,040 She is so good as Hope Van Dyen and she's just pushed to the side. 213 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,040 Yeah. 214 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,640 It was unfortunate, for sure. 215 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Oh, man. 216 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,840 Dude, like, just starting off, and I think this is... 217 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Actually, I think it's more of a writing issue. 218 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:34,160 The pacing of this movie felt really off. 219 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,800 Like, did you feel that they, like... 220 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Because I don't know about you, like, I kind of wanted to catch up with Scott and the rest 221 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:50,320 of the family a little more before they entered the quantum realm, because I literally felt 222 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 it was less than five minutes and then all of a sudden they're getting sucked in. 223 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 I'm like, god damn, that was fast. 224 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,440 I'll definitely agree with you there. 225 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:05,600 It did feel really quick, but I feel like, I think that's maybe what was lacking between 226 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,840 the new Cassie and Scott. 227 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Like, for those of you that don't know, Cassie got, or at least older Cassie, got recast 228 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:23,880 from the actress that played her in Avengers Endgame. 229 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,720 And so, I mean, she got replaced by Katherine Newton, and Katherine Newton is an amazing 230 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,720 actress. 231 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Like, there hasn't been a single thing that she's been in that I've disliked, that I know 232 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,760 of. 233 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,240 The only one that I can think of, and it's not even her fault, because she's the only 234 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 good part of it, is Paranormal Activity 4. 235 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Yes. 236 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,080 She is the only good part of that movie. 237 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Yeah, just going through her IMDB real quick. 238 00:15:54,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Friggin, the map of Tiny Perfect Things was good, Freaky was good, Detective Pikachu was 239 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,680 good, Blockers was good. 240 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,880 There's not been a lot that she's been bad at. 241 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Like, the only thing that stands out is Paranormal Activity 4. 242 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,840 But she's an amazing actress, and it's just, the chemistry wasn't there. 243 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Like, there was chemistry. 244 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Like, don't get me wrong, but it just didn't feel quite father-daughter. 245 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:27,560 Yeah, I feel if we could have gotten as emotional scene as we did in Endgame with the actress 246 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,560 that played her there, I feel I could have maybe... 247 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Well, I don't know, did we get any, like, considering that he kept calling her, god, 248 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,720 what was her nickname? 249 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,720 Peanut. 250 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,720 To him? 251 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Peanut. 252 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Did you feel that there were any, like, emotional moments, like, truly that were, like, very 253 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,440 emotional between those two compared to, let's say, the Avengers Endgame scene when she sees 254 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 him for the first time in five years? 255 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,400 In this movie, no. 256 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,400 They had... 257 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,140 Like, there was... 258 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:04,400 The only moment that stands out where it was just, like, really intense and, like, super, 259 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:13,720 like, hyperprotective, like, that fatherly, paternal protection mode is when Kang had 260 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:19,760 Cassie caught in, like, this telepathic grip and he was just like, I will murder her and 261 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,360 keep her in that loop until you beg me to kill you. 262 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:26,160 Like, oh shit. 263 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Yeah, I thought... 264 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,240 That was insane. 265 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Yeah, so, I mean, Scott's reaction to that and Paul Rudd, for goodness sake, just sold 266 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:37,120 it. 267 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,920 That was, like, flawless. 268 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:46,800 It's just the emotional moments just didn't quite hit super hard, which sucked. 269 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,800 It does. 270 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,800 I mean, don't worry. 271 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,160 I loved her in this movie. 272 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,800 She did a great job. 273 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:58,960 But just, yeah, it didn't feel like the father-daughter connection that I wanted. 274 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,740 I feel it's still the strongest in the first two just because of the young actress that 275 00:18:03,740 --> 00:18:04,740 played her. 276 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:08,000 She was absolutely incredible. 277 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,680 Honestly, I just hate, like, this is nothing against Katherine Newton. 278 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,160 Up and coming star, I can understand why they recast her. 279 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,480 They wanted a big name star to play Cassie considering that I'm sure Cassie's going 280 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,880 to be a very integral part of the MCU movies going forward. 281 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,000 But the way that the original actress found out from Endgame that she had been recast 282 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:37,040 with, I think was at, like, a Disney stock meeting or some shit like that, that when 283 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,200 they were announcing a whole bunch of things for phase five and they were talking about 284 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,400 Ant-Man and the Lost Quantumania and I think they announced Jonathan Ma- well, wait, no, 285 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 I'm sorry, Jonathan Majors wasn't announced till solid Comic Con. 286 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,880 But they were talking about it and they mentioned, oh yeah, Katherine Newton will play Cassie 287 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,240 Lang in this one. 288 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,700 And I'm sure the girl was just like, the hell? 289 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,500 What about me? 290 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:58,500 So I'm just a one-off? 291 00:18:58,500 --> 00:18:59,500 Okay. 292 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,880 They freaking did her dirty. 293 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,880 They did. 294 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,840 And I feel so bad for her. 295 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,680 Cause she did a really good job, but she did it, like, at least for the small part that 296 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,760 we saw her in, like, she did really good. 297 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,760 She did good. 298 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,680 Like, I'm sorry, I hate to keep you- 299 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,880 I think she has a better look than Katherine Newton. 300 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,080 Like, she kind of has like a Paul Rudd look about her face. 301 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:33,720 I think what they were wanting is because, I think I read somewhere that they felt that 302 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,880 the actress that played her in Endgame for the five-year time jump, considering how Cassie 303 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,960 was still pretty young. 304 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,120 And how old was Cassie in Ant-Man 2? 305 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,520 Do you know by chance? 306 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,840 I have no idea. 307 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:53,080 She had to be like, like barely like, what, like 10 or 12? 308 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Maybe? 309 00:19:54,360 --> 00:20:00,080 So if we're looking at that, cause that takes place literally right before Infinity War, 310 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:07,240 jumping her to five years, that would put her around her like 18, like around like 17, 311 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,720 18, or like maybe early like almost 20. 312 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,760 So I feel, and this is just assumption I'm assuming with Marvel, is that they wanted, 313 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,720 and I'm not saying the actress looks old, but I'm sure that they wanted someone that 314 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,560 maybe looked a little younger for the age that they were going for with Cassie in this 315 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,920 one. 316 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:34,080 I mean maybe, like that's the only excuse I can come up with cause she has the look about 317 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,080 her. 318 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 Yes, yeah, no, she actually looked like she could have been Paul Rudd's kid. 319 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:45,680 Yeah, I'm looking through, it doesn't look like she's done anything like action wise. 320 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:51,800 So I mean, maybe, like that better have been it. 321 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:57,880 Cause like if they hired her, or if they didn't go with her because of whatever bullshit reason, 322 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,080 like if they just went, oh she looks a little too old, like that's the only thing that I 323 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,080 would accept. 324 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Yeah. 325 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:12,560 But I mean she still pulls off like pretty young, easy. 326 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,040 Yeah. 327 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Like I'm looking at pictures of her, she was at the Far From Home premiere, and I mean 328 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,800 she does look like older than maybe she did in Endgame. 329 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:39,560 But yeah, I think the only thing that was lacking there was just, between them was chemistry. 330 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,040 But I think that's more of a writing issue than anything. 331 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:50,000 I think my main issues were the way that the story was edited. 332 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,080 Once they got to the Quantum Realm, it kept jumping back and forth between Cassie and 333 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Scott and the Pims. 334 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800 In a really janky ways too. 335 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,120 Dude, like seriously though, cause we go like such a long time with the Pims, and then it 336 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:13,880 would jump back to Cassie and Scott for literally only a couple of minutes, and then jump right 337 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:19,200 back to the Pims and we'd be spending like another 15-20 minutes with them. 338 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Yeah, like it was so odd because you see Scott and Cassie get taken by these people, and 339 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:36,200 then we go to the Pims for a little bit, doing whatever their thing is doing, and then it 340 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,880 jumps back to Scott and Cassie, and then they're in a whole new situation. 341 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:50,680 It's like dark outside, so you have to think that a significant amount of time has passed. 342 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:59,360 Then they have this weird scene where they're taking Scott to drink this ooze, so he doesn't 343 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,280 know what it's all about. 344 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:08,720 But you see Cassie say, drink the ooze, and then it jumps back to the Pims for a little 345 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,040 bit. 346 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:16,200 And then, actually it cuts to the Pims for a long time, and then it cuts back to Scott, 347 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,320 and then he drinks the ooze real quick and has a conversation. 348 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,320 I'm like, what? 349 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,880 Just freaking cut them together. 350 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,000 Yeah, exactly. 351 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,600 You could have done this in one freaking go. 352 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:37,480 You could have just been with the Pims, or Cassie and Scott get captured. 353 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,760 Go to the Pims. 354 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Get everything done with the Pims to the point where it's like, okay, now we have a vehicle, 355 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,920 or now we have a mode of transportation, let's go. 356 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,680 Then they go on their merry way, and then boom, right back to Scott and Cassie doing 357 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,680 their thing. 358 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,320 It's not that freaking hard. 359 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840 No, it is not. 360 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,720 But you had to do some weird jumps. 361 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Knock it off. 362 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:14,480 And then, my big issue, the biggest issue I had with this movie, the stakes were so 363 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,480 minimal. 364 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,480 Yeah. 365 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,480 At least they were. 366 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Okay, don't get me wrong. 367 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Did I think that they were going to beat Kang? 368 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Yes. 369 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:31,720 I had every assumption that, yeah, Kang is not going to make it through this. 370 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,240 There's a multiverse of Kang the Conquerors. 371 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,640 They kind of have that figured out. 372 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,240 I was kind of disappointed, though, that he didn't make it out and they killed him, because 373 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,480 I love this variant so much of him. 374 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,400 Yeah. 375 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,920 It's difficult. 376 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,640 Because it almost... 377 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,920 I don't know. 378 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,040 I had such mixed feelings about it, because it's like, okay, this version of Kang, super 379 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,920 dope. 380 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:10,640 But I feel like it made sense, like him being defeated. 381 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,680 But my issue lied with the ending. 382 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:24,760 So what Kang's trying to do is he's trying to transport his entire empire that he is 383 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,660 created within the Quantum Realm back to Earth. 384 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:33,120 Or he's trying to bring it with him. 385 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:38,420 And then Scott and everyone jacks that process up. 386 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:41,640 So he's just trying to take... 387 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,760 It gets to the point where he's just trying to take whatever he can. 388 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:53,200 And Cassie and Hank and all of them are able to open a portal back to Earth. 389 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840 They're going to jump through it and then basically just shut it down. 390 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,040 So Kang can't escape. 391 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,640 So what ends up happening is this portal is up. 392 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,760 Everyone's jumping through because they think Kang's been defeated and he comes out of the 393 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,200 woodwork trying to jump through the portal. 394 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,680 Because he's just like, at least I'll get back on track. 395 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,880 I'll freaking figure it out once I get out. 396 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:26,040 But he's trying to force himself to get out of the Quantum Realm. 397 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,280 And Scott and him have a big old fight. 398 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,680 And I think it just kind of cheapened that whole line. 399 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,760 The, oh, I don't have to win. 400 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,520 You just have to lose deal. 401 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Because it's like, but you both didn't lose, Scott. 402 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,920 This is how I thought the ending was going to go. 403 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,680 I thought it was going to be Scott and Kang just duking it out. 404 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:59,000 And then Wasp was going to come in last second and they were going to kick Kang's ass together. 405 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Like defeat him however you wanted to defeat him. 406 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,320 But it was going to cost the portal being closed. 407 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,560 Yeah. 408 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,760 And honestly, I feel that would have been a very good character moment for both Scott 409 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,160 and Hope. 410 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Like Hope truly showing that she loves Scott. 411 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,680 Yeah. 412 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,960 I mean, she did. 413 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,920 But it would have made it even more impactful. 414 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,680 Dude, freaking exactly. 415 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:37,240 And this is like where, this is like something that I probably would have addressed. 416 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:45,500 Because you got to think, that would have been him sacrificing even more time with Cassie 417 00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:53,600 to bring on this, to pull this win in. 418 00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:02,000 And like just kind of sacrificing his own personal wants and desires for the world or 419 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,280 for the universe at large. 420 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,120 And I think if you wanted to kind of go the quote unquote cheap route, I think you could 421 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:22,560 have had Cassie and Hope jump back through the portal and have them all been stuck together 422 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,380 in the Quantum Realm. 423 00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:34,320 And then have Hank and Janet working on trying to figure out how to get them out of the Quantum 424 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,400 Realm. 425 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:43,200 I don't think, because it was so cheap, because it's like Hank and, or not Hank, Scott and 426 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Hope, they like they defeat Kang, like suck him into this machine or whatever and basically 427 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,640 kill him. 428 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,320 And then they are just standing at the top of this ruined tower and staring off into 429 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,320 the Quantum Realm while people are cheering because Kang's been defeated. 430 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,840 And I started feeling like really heavy because I'm like, oh my gosh, they're stuck there. 431 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,840 Like it's kind of a really seldom defeat. 432 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,760 And then it's like, do portal opens, they jump back through, everything's fine with 433 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,760 the world. 434 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120 And I'm like, this is bullshit. 435 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,560 There's no stakes, god damn it. 436 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Yeah, that's exactly what my problem was. 437 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,180 Dude, I'll bet you, I wonder if that was the original plan. 438 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:31,080 But maybe Marvel's just like, yeah, I don't know if we're going to be able to make an 439 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,600 Ant-Man 4. 440 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,920 So if you could make this to be like a happy ending, that'd be great. 441 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Dude, I would have told them to go kick turds. 442 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Dude, yeah, I would have too. 443 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,840 Like, comic books don't have happy endings all the time. 444 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,000 Yes, no they do not. 445 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,600 Like and you proved, like it's like Marvel, you're stepping on your own foot. 446 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Like you have proven that happy endings don't have to happen. 447 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,400 Are you kidding me? 448 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400 Do you think freaking Infinity War ended happy? 449 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,640 That was a massive box office success. 450 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,760 That is still probably the most like, the most shocked I've ever left the cinema. 451 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,120 And it probably always will be. 452 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,120 Oh yeah. 453 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:23,000 Because I don't think any of us thought that Thanos was actually going to win. 454 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440 I'll tell you, I didn't. 455 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Same here. 456 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Or at least I didn't expect him to get all of the stones in Infinity War. 457 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,920 I thought it was going to be he gets a certain amount in Infinity War and then in Avengers 458 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,920 4 he got the rest. 459 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,240 I did not expect him to get all of them in one go. 460 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Yeah, and you think Endgame ended happy? 461 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,640 That ending was so bittersweet. 462 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Yeah. 463 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,820 Like there, you have proven you do not need a happy ending. 464 00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:55,280 This movie did not need a happy ending. 465 00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:01,720 No, I would have been fine if it ended with Scott and Hope being stuck in the Quantum 466 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,720 Realm. 467 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,560 It would have been a very good character moment for both. 468 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,600 Yeah, exactly. 469 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:14,480 Like I would have personally preferred if they did something like, because I mean obviously 470 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:23,440 like you, I don't think you'd want to take Scott away from Cassie again, but you don't 471 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 have to reunite them like in person. 472 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,200 I think you could have done, like she had the Quantum Satellite situation that she had 473 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080 set up. 474 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:42,120 You could have just had it so they could communicate with each other via hologram or whatever. 475 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,320 There you go. 476 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,200 And they kind of had a similar ending where maybe they're like celebrating her birthday 477 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,240 and it's just Scott in hologram form or whatever. 478 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,360 Like you could have done something else. 479 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440 They ruined the stakes of their own movie. 480 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,080 And I'm just like, I felt so cheated when I left or when I saw that. 481 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,640 I was just like, they could have ended this so much better. 482 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Yeah. 483 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,800 What's funny is like when they were doing that, like once Hope came back through and 484 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,140 you know, dinner thing and the portal closed, like in the back of my mind, I'm just like, 485 00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:21,600 they're going to find a way to open back up. 486 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,600 I just know it. 487 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,680 I know they're not going to end it like this. 488 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,320 I had such high hopes that they weren't going to. 489 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Oh, same here. 490 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,640 No, I didn't want it to open either. 491 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,640 I was so worried. 492 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,400 I was just like the way that they shot that scene where it like you kind of see what's 493 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,400 happening behind them. 494 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,920 I was just like, oh no, oh no, like don't, don't do it. 495 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Don't do it. 496 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,920 And then the portal opened. 497 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:47,920 I'm like, shit. 498 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:53,480 The fact that like also irritates me is they went through so much to get the portal open 499 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 while they were in the quantum realm. 500 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,240 And the fact that how much, you know, Janet said of how she hates connecting with the 501 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240 quantum realm, you know, it's, it's just a disaster waiting to happen. 502 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,920 The fact that they were able to just open it back up so quickly and then close it again 503 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960 without any repercussions whatsoever. 504 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,400 Bullshit. 505 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,760 Right? 506 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Yeah. 507 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,960 And I thought the whole, the only way that they were able to fricking open it in the 508 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,040 first place was because they were attached to that multiversal battery. 509 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Yeah. 510 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,840 That's what I thought too. 511 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,960 And I was like, okay, so that's destroyed. 512 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,400 So like that's, it's like they set up all these, these pieces for it to be like, oh 513 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,760 yeah, they're stuck in the quantum realm now. 514 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Yeah. 515 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760 Frickin they went against their own logic. 516 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:47,520 Like it, I sorely disappointed with, with that, like so fricking disappointed. 517 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,120 And yeah. 518 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:59,120 Um, I guess I'll save it for, I'll save what I have to say next about like with writing. 519 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:06,920 Um, my question is where, what category, cause I, I don't know if like we want to work it 520 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920 in story. 521 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960 Or do we want to talk about Modoc in that? 522 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,480 That's exactly what I was thinking. 523 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:18,080 I think it's, I think my issues with him were writing, but they were mostly in effects, 524 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200 but I think my issues with Modoc were not story related. 525 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,880 It was all writing related. 526 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,880 Okay. 527 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,880 I can agree. 528 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,880 So yeah. 529 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Frickin Modork. 530 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Oh my God. 531 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,880 Yeah. 532 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:39,640 Um, so what would you give the story for this? 533 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:47,680 Um, I was telling Caleb this, like I walked out of this movie, like way more, uh, like 534 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,960 hap, like I actually walked out of this movie, like saying I had a good time on like Thor 535 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,840 11th Thunder and it was because of the story. 536 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,520 Um, but like we pointed out the ending kind of ruins it for that because there could have 537 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,800 been some amazing character moments, but we were, we were robbed of that. 538 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Um, so, uh, I don't know. 539 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,600 Like, oh God damn it. 540 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440 I think I'm at like a 79. 541 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,160 I see you're being nice to this movie. 542 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:26,760 No, I gotta make sure I make it in my mission. 543 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,000 It's getting higher than love and thunder. 544 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,520 I, I'm, I'm kidding. 545 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,320 I'm not giving it like super low. 546 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,920 I'm giving it lower than you. 547 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560 I'm giving it a 76. 548 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,680 That's completely fair, dude. 549 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,920 I completely get it. 550 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,920 Yeah. 551 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,560 I think they just jacked up too much with the story trying to like, trying to force 552 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040 in this happy ending with us. 553 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,720 It's just, it was unnecessary. 554 00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:58,720 Yeah. 555 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:08,840 Like movie, comic book movies at, or at least fricking anthologies or anthology might not 556 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,080 be the right word. 557 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:18,040 This, the saga of movies where we know that there's are multiple movies within this phase 558 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,480 and ultimately leading to the ultimate big bad. 559 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Every movie does not have to have a happy ending. 560 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Yes. 561 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,040 Thank you. 562 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560 Like it just doesn't. 563 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:39,600 If it, if you can make it a happy ending without it being like shoe horned in, like go for 564 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,000 it. 565 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,080 But it doesn't have to end that way every single time. 566 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Like, especially if you have plans for Ant-Man down the line, like, which speaking of, we 567 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,400 didn't, we don't even know if Ant-Man's coming back. 568 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Like we know Kang is. 569 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,600 Yeah. 570 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,600 That's dude. 571 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,600 They better bring Paul. 572 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,600 I'm okay. 573 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600 Like I'm okay. 574 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,800 And there's nothing against Hank and Hope. 575 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,120 I love not Hank and Hope. 576 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,600 I'm sorry, Hank and Janet. 577 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,960 I love them. 578 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,520 They're amazing, but I would be okay if they never, if we never saw them again, it's Scott 579 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,960 and Hope that I really hope we see again because I love these two together so much. 580 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,040 I think that'd be a really tough sell. 581 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:32,080 Like I mean, you know that we saw them in or without Hank and Janet in end game. 582 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Yes. 583 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,760 So, I mean, that's not really an issue there. 584 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:44,520 It's just seeing them in any capacity outside of like the family unit would kind of be tough, 585 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,360 especially with how tight knit everyone seems to be. 586 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,360 Which is awesome. 587 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,440 I love that. 588 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,440 Yeah. 589 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,800 All right. 590 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,880 Getting into writing. 591 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,680 The humor with this was pretty decent. 592 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,680 It was. 593 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Not like, I actually laughed at this movie unlike Thor, Love, and Thunder. 594 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,160 Yeah. 595 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,520 There were some definite gems within this movie. 596 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:22,720 And this is where I'll say there were times where Modok was genuinely terrifying. 597 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:28,640 I don't know if I ever found him terrifying, honestly. 598 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:35,520 There was like one time where he's like facing, I think it's like when he's going up against 599 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:44,080 Hank in the ship and he's like kind of comes out of nowhere and has his like the saws coming 600 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:50,600 out and like kind of getting pissed off or going towards Cassie and like wanting to attack 601 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,960 like when he first appears. 602 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,800 Like he it's kind of scary, but they cheapen the shit out of him because of the jokes that 603 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800 they made. 604 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,800 Dude, like. 605 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,680 Like they didn't get a single serious moment out of him. 606 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,680 No, dude. 607 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,600 And even like the freaking like whole as he's like dying, the whole like, I always can't 608 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,440 you sit or do a brother, Scott. 609 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,720 I'm just like, this is total bullshit. 610 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:20,040 I guess you're I get you're going for a joke, but this isn't funny. 611 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,440 They shared how many scenes together. 612 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040 Yeah, it's freaking stupid. 613 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,120 God, I hate that this character was done so dirt, not Modok himself. 614 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:35,560 I mean, Modok was done very dirty in this movie, but the character of shit. 615 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600 What was Yellow Jackets name? 616 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600 Darren. 617 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:39,720 Darren. 618 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,040 It sucks that his character has done so dirty in this movie because I love him as the villain 619 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,040 in the first day. 620 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,800 Man, he is so freaking good. 621 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,720 So the fact that he's just turned into the butt of the joke in this whole freaking movie 622 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,560 pisses me off. 623 00:39:53,560 --> 00:40:02,080 I get that he's I get that he's not the same Darren, but still, dude, I it's just they 624 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,080 didn't give us any time with him as like a badass. 625 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,880 No, every time that he was on screen, it turned into a joke. 626 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,440 Eventually, like his first introduction, like when he comes like pounding through all these 627 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,800 buildings and taking out the weaponry like that was pretty sick with his but he's like 628 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,920 wearing his mask and it's not until he takes it off that everyone's just like then he turns 629 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,920 into a freaking joke. 630 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:35,440 I don't know about your screening, but that was probably when he first and they first 631 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,720 unveiled it. 632 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:42,820 The hardest joke that hit in this whole movie and it's not even supposed to be that funny, 633 00:40:42,820 --> 00:40:49,760 but people were freaking dying the first time his helmet came up for how he looked. 634 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,920 Yeah, it was. 635 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,840 We will be discussing that look. 636 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Like it took a minute to get used to it because I was telling Caleb that like in the trailers, 637 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,320 at least to me, it made it look like it was his face projected on a screen. 638 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,600 I didn't know that it was straight up his whole big head. 639 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,580 I mean, at least with that, you know, like they actually got like it actually like more 640 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:15,760 so looks like Modoc that way. 641 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,040 Still, it's so freaking bad. 642 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Oh, good Lord. 643 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:29,040 Just in the whole freaking like joke of like, Darren, just don't be a dick and like how 644 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,680 they turn that into I'm not going to die being a dick. 645 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:39,320 And that's how he is avenged or just it's so freaking stupid. 646 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:45,740 Okay, I will say that bit was freaking hilarious to me. 647 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:49,840 When Cassie first said it or when he kept saying it? 648 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,840 No. 649 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,960 So, okay, when he died and was like announcing, I'm not going to die. 650 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,920 Like yeah, that was freaking dumb. 651 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,280 But when him and Cassie were fighting and she she's just like, just like, don't be a 652 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,280 dick, dude. 653 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,280 Yeah, that was funny. 654 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,280 And he's like, but look at me. 655 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,280 I'm such a dick. 656 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,400 I freaking lost it. 657 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,760 Like that was really good. 658 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,760 Okay. 659 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,760 Really well done. 660 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:15,960 I thought that was funny. 661 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,280 And then like her line where she's just like, it's never too late to stop being a dick. 662 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,240 Like that was hilarious. 663 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,040 Like loved that. 664 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040 She's not wrong. 665 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,100 Yeah. 666 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,360 But yeah, that's where the joke should have ended. 667 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:36,640 Yeah, like, God, I just can't get over the whole like, one of his final words is just 668 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,360 like, I always considered you a brother, Scott. 669 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,720 And the way that like Scott looks, he's just like, and I think he looks at hope too. 670 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:46,280 And they're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, same here. 671 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Yeah, I think I think what got got me was everyone's reaction to him. 672 00:42:52,520 --> 00:43:00,840 Yeah, being super like, like, Scott's and Hanks made sense. 673 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,480 And like, hopes did too. 674 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,280 But I think they just tried to play it off as a joke too. 675 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,280 Yeah, too. 676 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,200 It's like, we get it. 677 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,200 He doesn't look like he used to. 678 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,800 He's a big head now. 679 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,800 He looks weird. 680 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,800 We get it. 681 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,800 And like, don't get me started with like the whole like, when they like walked us through 682 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,560 like how he became Modok and just like, I don't know, that just like looked really weird. 683 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,800 And I get like that, I guess that it will actually I don't really even know like the 684 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,440 full story of how how Modok became Modok. 685 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,440 Yeah, okay. 686 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:39,400 Well, Modok's a frickin isn't a I don't think Modok's a person. 687 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,880 Like I think he's a robot. 688 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,960 Okay, that makes more sense. 689 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,800 Yeah, I think you're right. 690 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,160 For in the for the fact that like, yeah, he literally when he's being put into the Modok 691 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:54,000 body, literally, they have him like, I think, like the the claws like grabbing his head 692 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,880 and you like see his like hands and legs dangling. 693 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,520 I'm like, well, now he's looking like frickin Humpty Dumpty over here. 694 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,240 Oh, yeah. 695 00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:05,840 It was so it was not great. 696 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,360 It was not. 697 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,160 They have tried to fit Darren into this movie in a different way. 698 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:20,440 Like I get like, yeah, he got he like he got frickin obliterated before he got sent into 699 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,120 the quantum realm. 700 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,520 But couldn't there have been a better way to bring his character back than saying that 701 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,200 he's Modok now? 702 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:37,720 I will say it made sense just because of how like insane his death was or his supposed 703 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:45,800 death in the first Ant-Man movie was and how he like kind of imploded on himself. 704 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,240 Like it it made a little bit of sense. 705 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:54,880 Like I understood like how they made that leap to him being Modok. 706 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,440 I think he should have just been bad guy through and through the entire time. 707 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,900 Yeah, I agree. 708 00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:05,840 He should not have been the butt of every single frickin joke in this movie. 709 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,240 Yeah. 710 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,600 So I was wrong. 711 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:22,440 Modok in comics is a human, but it's more it's more in line with what we got as his 712 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,900 origin in the Avengers game. 713 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:30,680 See I look that is one of the few things that I feel that game did right was doing the origin 714 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,840 story of Modok because oh my God, it's so frickin good. 715 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,660 And he looked so good. 716 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:38,720 And then we get this with Modok. 717 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,520 Yeah, I mean, because that one he's actually intimidating. 718 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,240 Very, very true. 719 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:50,400 I would have preferred something if they would have gone along the lines of that version 720 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,080 of Modok then as accurately as they they pulled off this one. 721 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,080 Yeah. 722 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:03,000 I mean, but script wise, he wasn't bad. 723 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:09,120 Like he was just the butt of the joke too often for it to stay funny. 724 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:15,760 Like I think I think they should should have just kept him solely as a bad guy. 725 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,720 And should I ask on? 726 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,960 Yeah, no, not even not even necessarily that. 727 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,120 Like I think it would have I don't know how I would have pulled off Modok. 728 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,240 He's a hard character to do. 729 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,160 He is I would have. 730 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,640 Right. 731 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:40,000 Freaking doing what they did with like smooth faced Darren, I would not have done at all. 732 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,480 I would have like dismorphed his face. 733 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,600 A lot more than they did. 734 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,920 And it would have made complete sense for how, like you said, he imploded before he 735 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,200 was sent into the quantum realm. 736 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,360 Yeah. 737 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:04,160 Like I would have made what was jacked up about yellow jacket like his helmet was open 738 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440 when he was defeated, right? 739 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,080 I think so. 740 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,800 Or at least like partially like broken. 741 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,800 Yeah. 742 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,800 OK. 743 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:19,800 I'm just I'm just looking at like a gif of what it looked like. 744 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,760 And yeah, his his mask was was pretty like jacked up. 745 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,280 Like it was it was busted open. 746 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:31,280 So yeah, it would have made complete sense that his face would have been jacked up after 747 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,320 he entered the quantum realm. 748 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,320 Yeah. 749 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,720 Like maybe I wouldn't have done like a full busted up. 750 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,360 All right. 751 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,480 But I would have done something to incorporate his helmet a little bit better. 752 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,000 Yeah, I can agree with that. 753 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,520 When was the last time you watched the first day, I'm curious. 754 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,400 It's been a hot minute. 755 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,400 Me too. 756 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:59,360 I go, I meant to do it before I saw quantum mania, but I just never got around to it. 757 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,360 Yeah. 758 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,920 Like, OK, so here's here's what I would have done. 759 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:11,920 I would have kept the overall look of the mask, but like to like Modoc a fine him, I 760 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,960 would have like taken off like the obviously the white or the yellow paneling on his face. 761 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,720 So I would have just like squared that off and then like just kind of cut the rest of 762 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:30,040 his face out just so like it looks like the helmet still like stuck to his head and then 763 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,920 had like, oh, shit. 764 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,360 Like you've seen the Guardians three trailers, like the high evolutionary. 765 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,120 You know how it looks like his skin is like stretched over. 766 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,120 Yes. 767 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,600 And his mask or his helmet or whatever the hell he his face is. 768 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,520 I would have done something like that, where it was like his skin was just kind of like 769 00:48:53,520 --> 00:49:00,240 fused to the helmet, like around and then just kind of done some like weird morphing 770 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:05,880 with his his face, kind of give him more like Neanderthal looking features. 771 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,680 Yes, that would make that would make total sense. 772 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,320 Yeah, maybe like jacked up his mouth a little bit. 773 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,760 I think Modoc's just a hard character to pull off. 774 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:29,320 This is Modoc is a character I am really interested in seeing the concept art for. 775 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,280 Yes. 776 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,600 So I mean, they they could have done. 777 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,160 I feel like they could have done Modoc a little bit better. 778 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:44,240 Oh, and honestly, I think they should have gone the route of the Marvel's Avengers. 779 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,040 Yeah. 780 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:53,320 Like they almost did exactly what I what I've said, like his head is still like kind of 781 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,120 has boils on it or just like growths on it. 782 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,500 His head is just like super disfigured and stretched out. 783 00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:08,560 He has Neanderthal looking eyebrows, like teeny nose, big ass mouth. 784 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,320 Like I think that's the route they should have gone. 785 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:16,040 And then I would have kept the whole Moda or the yellow jacket suit. 786 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:22,320 Yes, someone because I looked up Modoc in quantum mania and one of the first things 787 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,600 that popped up someone with a picture of how he looks in the movie. 788 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,280 He said, do you hate it because he looks ugly? 789 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,160 Someone said, no, I hate it because it's the opposite. 790 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,960 I expected the MCU to give him the ugliest face imaginable, but instead they just CGI 791 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,360 a dude's face and head on Modoc's body and called it a day. 792 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,720 In a way, he's ugly, but in a bad way. 793 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:46,360 Yeah, is not great. 794 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:52,800 There's actually a behind the scenes picture of the it's literally so it looks like this 795 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,880 was the original plan all along is to have just the Darren's head blown up because like 796 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:05,360 this behind the scenes like full body sculpt that they made is exactly how we got in the 797 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,360 movie. 798 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:12,280 Yeah, I was just looking at that picture too. 799 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,280 They could have done it better. 800 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,280 Oh yeah, easily. 801 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,400 Yep, they could have easily done it better. 802 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:24,400 Man, I really hope that there's that they had other ideas that they like I'm going to 803 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,040 be pissed if they had other ideas that were better. 804 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,360 Yeah, dude, right? 805 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,280 Yeah, I would have done something else to his face. 806 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,640 Yeah, I agree. 807 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:43,000 Dude, I think what was throwing me off too, that doesn't even look like the actor that 808 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,000 played him. 809 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,000 Yeah, it doesn't. 810 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,160 Like I get like it's a blown up like really close up, but still it doesn't look like him 811 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,000 that much and I know it is him because he's credited in the credits. 812 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,560 No, he's not. 813 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,560 He's uncredited. 814 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,480 No, in the credits it shows Modok, the guy that played him. 815 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,960 If you watch the credits, it says Modok and then the guy that played Darren in the first 816 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,600 movie. 817 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,960 Are you sure? 818 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,960 I swear. 819 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,720 Because on the IMDB it says Corey Stull was uncredited. 820 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,000 Well, yeah, but like I guess like they didn't want to until like the actual movie came out, 821 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,480 but like for the actual end credits for Modok, his name is actually credited. 822 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,480 It actually says that he played Modok. 823 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,880 Did they actually use his face though? 824 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,760 Like I feel like you could stretch out most people's face and it like look like them still. 825 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:46,240 Yeah, but I am this is something I'm having a hard time seeing Corey Stull in this at all. 826 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,960 Like the voice like yes, like for sure. 827 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,160 Yeah, it's still his voice. 828 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,960 That's another thing I would have done. 829 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,480 Modok's always been portrayed with like a robotic voice. 830 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,520 So I would have done gosh, I would have gone a completely different route. 831 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:12,000 I would have disfigured his face and like, but just enough so you could still catch the 832 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,680 features of Corey Stull. 833 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,920 Like I probably would have kept the mouth and the nose the same and I would have just 834 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,200 I think all they needed to do was just like pump up the eyebrows. 835 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,240 Like Neanderthal the eyebrows a little bit, give him some like weird scarring on the side 836 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:35,040 of his head and just kind of do the same thing with the top of his head. 837 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,520 And so it's just not like a freaking chrome dome. 838 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,280 Yeah, dude, seriously though. 839 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:49,960 Like I would have gone that route and then given him a super robotic version of Corey 840 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,960 Stull's voice. 841 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,520 Yeah, I can get behind that. 842 00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:02,000 Anyway, getting back into writing like because we covered like all of our effects issues. 843 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,520 Holy shit. 844 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,320 Dialogue. 845 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:14,400 This is actually probably one of the better written of the Ant-Man stories. 846 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,960 Oh, dude, especially. 847 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,200 I mean, of course, it's how you know Jonathan Majors delivered it, but the writing all of 848 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,000 his dialogue was just so intimidating. 849 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,840 So I feel like kind of philosophical, philosophical. 850 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,920 Just oh my God, the writing for him was so intimidating and I loved it. 851 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,840 Dude, I absolutely agree. 852 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:43,720 I loved that he was trying to still connect with Janet. 853 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:44,720 Yes. 854 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:49,080 And being like, we never talked about what you saw. 855 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,680 And he was trying to explain his point of view. 856 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:58,080 Like it almost like the way that they ended it and like led into that end credits scene 857 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:06,640 with the the Council of Kang, where it seemed like, oh, maybe Kang was right. 858 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,400 No, that's a good point. 859 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,120 Like just kind of one of those deals. 860 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,480 And I hope that they kind of dive into that more and more where it's like, oh, we made 861 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,520 a mistake. 862 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,320 Yeah. 863 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:27,280 And like, I think that'd be a really interesting ending for like the multiverse saga. 864 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,160 Oh, yeah, totally. 865 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:38,040 Like if Kang has to like take over again, or if the the man who lived like comes back, 866 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,200 I think that'd be a really interesting story. 867 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000 But yeah, Kang was really well written. 868 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:54,000 I think the I had an issue with Janet for a little while, at least until she opened up 869 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,080 about what happened with her in the quantum realm. 870 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:05,240 It's just she was holding back too many secrets for her for it to feel like reasonable. 871 00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:06,600 Yeah. 872 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,320 I can definitely agree with that, because yeah, like literally after they get separated 873 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,320 in the quantum realm. 874 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,880 And so it's just Hope, Janet and Hank. 875 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,760 And when they first get there and she like she pushes them up against the tree and she's 876 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,400 like, don't move. 877 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:28,840 And then after that, she kind of doesn't really she after that, she doesn't really say anything. 878 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,920 Like they just keep going on their way. 879 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,440 But it's just like, I don't know, maybe after like getting like almost scanned by something, 880 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,680 I'd want to know the truth, mother, about the quantum the quantum realm. 881 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,600 Yeah, like they just kind of let that go on for way too long. 882 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,600 Yeah. 883 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:53,920 Like, I think that they had a conversation should have been had on the little flying 884 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,920 stingray. 885 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:55,920 Yes. 886 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,920 Yeah, they had time. 887 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:57,920 Yeah, they definitely had time. 888 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,920 Like it didn't need to happen when they got to freaking Bill Murray. 889 00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,920 Yeah. 890 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:05,480 Like it definitely had time, like it didn't need to happen when they got to freaking Bill 891 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,040 Murray's character, which why in the hell would you want Bill Murray for that role? 892 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,080 That was such a bullshit role. 893 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,080 Maybe they I don't know if he just wanted to be in a Marvel movie or they just wanted 894 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,080 to have a like a list actor in it. 895 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:28,160 No, you freaking wasted money on a big name guy being in this movie. 896 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,160 Yeah. 897 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560 Like, so stupid. 898 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,040 Like when I saw like, sorry, what? 899 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,120 No, just I was going to say I wish Bill Murray cared as much as he used to, because you could 900 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,280 definitely tell him most of everything that he's in nowadays is just he's there for the 901 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,280 paycheck. 902 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,160 Yeah, it definitely felt like that. 903 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,160 I'm like, he's fumbling it in. 904 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,720 Even in afterlife it felt that. 905 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:56,240 Like I didn't feel that way with Dan Aykroyd or Ernie Hudson, but I still unfortunately 906 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,160 felt that way with Bill Murray. 907 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,920 Apparently he's not super fun to work with. 908 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,680 I've heard that as well. 909 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,680 Yeah. 910 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,680 So I think they could have written that character out completely. 911 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,680 Oh, yeah, totally. 912 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,600 Like you could have had anyone betray Janet to Kang. 913 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:25,080 But I think the only reason you they didn't was to give like to get a fancy ship that 914 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,640 Michael Douglas had to stick his arms into. 915 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,480 It was so freaking weird. 916 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,360 Yeah, so gross. 917 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,880 Yeah. 918 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,560 But anyway, like it that was completely unnecessary. 919 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,760 And I found myself having a really hard time caring about what was happening here. 920 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640 I'm like, we all know that he's just going to betray her. 921 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,640 Yeah, dude. 922 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:49,640 Right. 923 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,080 Like, why are we dragging this out? 924 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,280 The only thing that I cared about from that scene is that Michael Doug or Hank Pym never 925 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,420 got drunk. 926 00:58:57,420 --> 00:58:59,400 He never got his drink. 927 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,400 I know. 928 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,400 That's what I was thinking, too. 929 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,040 I'm just like, you guys, like, excuse you. 930 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,840 You ordered a drink, dude. 931 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,840 Yeah. 932 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,400 You denied him getting drunk, Janet. 933 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,400 Oh, man. 934 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,320 That was that was rough. 935 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,920 I I will say it was a sweet moment, but it was it was funny. 936 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:26,760 The when they're on the ship leaving and he's asking Janet about like, oh, so, you know, 937 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,720 like how was it with him? 938 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,280 You know, and she's like, well, you know, like gone for 30 years, had to please myself 939 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,280 some way. 940 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,200 And she's like, I'm sure that you like hooked up with someone, too. 941 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,200 Right. 942 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,280 He's like, yeah, it goes on with this one girl he hooked up with. 943 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,760 And she's like, well, so then what happened? 944 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,600 She's like, he's like, it wasn't you, Janet. 945 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,600 I'm like, oh, that's sweet. 946 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,640 But this is kind of funny, too. 947 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,640 A little bit. 948 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:52,640 Yeah. 949 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,520 Like, I think that could have been a real like connection moment for them. 950 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,920 Like, I don't think they focused on Hank and Janet's relationship enough. 951 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,640 I feel I felt that way, like honestly throughout this whole trilogy. 952 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,720 I mean, like Janet's really only brought in in the second one. 953 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,400 Like I think she's only mentioned in the first one. 954 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,400 Right. 955 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,400 Yeah. 956 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,400 Well, OK. 957 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,640 Well, she's technically shown. 958 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,120 Oh, yeah. 959 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,120 With the flashbacks. 960 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:20,120 Yeah. 961 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,640 Like, it's not Michelle Pfeiffer. 962 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,640 Yeah. 963 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,880 So like, I get the shoe is brought in very late, but yeah, I would have loved if they 964 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,760 would have explored. 965 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,240 And I mean, I don't know if we'll get an Ant-Man 4, but I would have loved if they would have 966 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,760 explored Hank and Janet's relationship more in these movies. 967 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,680 I get that they're not the sole focus, but like at least give us something more than 968 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,680 what we got. 969 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,680 Yeah. 970 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,560 I think he needed like just some sweet, like romantic moments between them. 971 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,520 Like you could have freaking squeeze those in. 972 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,760 Yeah, because I feel Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer actually have really good chemistry 973 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,760 together. 974 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,360 So I feel it shouldn't have been a problem at all. 975 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,360 I think they do, too. 976 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:07,920 Yeah. 977 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,760 Everyone else, though, I mean, it felt like the rest of it felt good. 978 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,840 Like other than like the issues that we brought up, I do think it is definitely better than 979 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:18,840 the story. 980 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,320 Yes, I can agree with that. 981 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,200 How much better though? 982 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,360 I don't know. 983 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,600 For me, I probably just go like a point higher. 984 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,600 So I'm going to go an 80. 985 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,960 I actually might go a point higher than you. 986 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,960 I might be at an 80. 987 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,960 Okay. 988 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,960 All right. 989 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:44,880 So for acting, we have Paul Rudd, who plays Scott Lang, Evangeline Lilly, who plays Hope 990 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:51,800 Van Dyne, Michael Douglas, who plays Dr. Hank Pym, Michelle Pfeiffer, who plays Janet Van 991 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,960 Dyne, Jonathan Majors, who plays Kang the Conqueror, Katherine Newton, who plays Cassie 992 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:05,960 Lang and Corey Stull, who plays Modoc. 993 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,760 Or what did I say earlier? 994 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,760 Modoc. 995 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:09,760 Yep, Modoc. 996 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,760 Yep. 997 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,760 All right. 998 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,760 You're not wrong. 999 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,760 Yeah. 1000 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,280 So what's your top three look like for this? 1001 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,280 Number one, definitely Modoc. 1002 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,040 Just kidding. 1003 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,040 I'm kidding. 1004 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,240 I'm totally kidding. 1005 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,240 Let's see. 1006 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,240 Number three. 1007 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,240 Hmm. 1008 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,660 You know, number three, I got to give to Michelle Pfeiffer. 1009 01:02:35,660 --> 01:02:42,440 She was honestly, I would give number three to Evangeline Lilly if she had more to do. 1010 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,640 But she did not have a lot to do in this movie and it pisses me off. 1011 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,140 Yeah. 1012 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:53,440 But Michelle Pfeiffer though was fantastic in this movie and I appreciated that they 1013 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:58,320 were able to dive into her character so much more. 1014 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,480 I feel like in every scene that she was in, she stole the show. 1015 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,920 But that's just because they didn't give. 1016 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:07,960 Well, not only because she's a great actress, but they didn't really give Hank and Hope 1017 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,600 a lot to work with. 1018 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,800 But anyway, I'll stop bitching about those two, especially Hope. 1019 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,640 But anyway, Michelle Pfeiffer, she was absolutely freaking incredible. 1020 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,840 Number two, I would give to Paul Rudd. 1021 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,440 Freaking incredible as always. 1022 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:29,400 I love him so much as Scott Lang and this movie was no exception. 1023 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:36,600 Especially his emotional moments, when he's a giant man and he's running towards Kang, 1024 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,280 he's just like, we had a deal, Kang. 1025 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:46,920 Just the emotions in that, in the scene where it's literally thousands, millions, no, I 1026 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,120 think it was probably thousands of Ant-Man, Scott's. 1027 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:58,240 And the fact that the whole line, oh, we finally have, we actually agree on a purpose and it's 1028 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,520 to spend more time with Cassie. 1029 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,920 And that's how they're able to work together. 1030 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,320 But that of course doesn't work. 1031 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:10,400 But then Hope comes in and because she's real, they're able to combine and to where it's 1032 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,640 just them and not their split. 1033 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,640 What is it? 1034 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,640 Like their split. 1035 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,640 Oh, probabilities. 1036 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,640 Yes. 1037 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,640 Yeah. 1038 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:21,640 Yeah. 1039 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,520 They're split probabilities. 1040 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,680 They're able to just come together as one, which is awesome. 1041 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,000 I love that scene. 1042 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,480 And both acting and that scene is great, but Paul Wright, especially, just, yeah, he once 1043 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,380 again knocked out of the park with this performance. 1044 01:04:36,380 --> 01:04:39,360 But I have to give number one to Jonathan Majors. 1045 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:48,280 Oh my God, this man is so intimidating as Kang the Conqueror. 1046 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,480 I got to watch more movies with Jonathan Majors because I feel I'm just barely discovering 1047 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,520 this guy and he is incredible. 1048 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:02,560 He is such a presence every single time he's on screen, the way that he delivers a lot 1049 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,480 of his lines in monotone. 1050 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,040 But I feel that's what makes it work so perfectly. 1051 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,920 And that's just what makes Kang so intimidating. 1052 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:16,720 And I hate that this version of him died because I love him so much. 1053 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,280 And don't get like, because I don't really know a lot about Kang the Conqueror. 1054 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,560 Like, I literally know nothing. 1055 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:29,880 So this is my first introduction to the character and I'm loving what Jonathan Majors is doing. 1056 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,600 And even the costume is working on him. 1057 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,080 And I didn't think that they were going to be able to pull off a purple and green suit 1058 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,080 on Majors, but they did it. 1059 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,080 He looks fantastic. 1060 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:44,800 And even with when the freaking helmet and blue visor go over his face, it still looks 1061 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:45,800 fantastic. 1062 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,040 But yeah, number one, Jonathan Majors, freaking incredible performance. 1063 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,520 Oh yeah, for sure. 1064 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:58,440 I just wanted to quick bring up that scene you were talking about with Scott and Hope 1065 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,120 being in the probability storm. 1066 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,400 Yeah, that was the shit. 1067 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,720 Right? 1068 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,720 So good. 1069 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:16,360 Dude, I love that it just kind of it felt like what Scott was doing in the first movie, 1070 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:23,560 where it's just the ants climbing on top of each other to get Scott to the top of whatever 1071 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,200 he needs to go and grab. 1072 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,080 It felt very reminiscent of that. 1073 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:34,560 It just kind of like reminiscent of their characters, where Scott is Ant-Man and so 1074 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,320 all of his characters are working together to create these little formations exactly 1075 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760 like what he does with those little carpenter ants. 1076 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:49,560 Like in the first movie and like the second one and like creating these like little foundations 1077 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,600 for him to like run across or do whatever with. 1078 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,160 Like freaking love that like little comparison. 1079 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:02,880 And then with Hope like flying down and then it just being like a swarm of wasps. 1080 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,040 Like I thought that was so freaking dope. 1081 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,040 The fact that they're like fighting with each other, because that's totally how from what 1082 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,520 I've been told is that how like unlike bees and their community wasps is kind of like 1083 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,120 all for yourselves. 1084 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,960 Yeah, definitely. 1085 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,440 But I thought that scene was so cool. 1086 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:26,080 Just like seeing that comparison and then when they like joined together and all the 1087 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:32,240 versions merged and like I love seeing the stuff that they're able to do together as 1088 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,240 a team. 1089 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,240 Yes. 1090 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:41,000 Like I love seeing wasp carry Ant-Man by the hand and like toss him up to shit. 1091 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,000 So cool. 1092 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,440 We needed more of that. 1093 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,480 Yeah, definitely needed more of that. 1094 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,800 I thought that shit was so cool. 1095 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,720 So anyway, getting into my top three. 1096 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,120 I might be in a grants with you. 1097 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:06,800 Like it is seriously a coin flip between Katherine Newton's Cassie and Michelle Pfeiffer's Janet. 1098 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,680 That's fair for number three. 1099 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:18,160 The issues that I had with Cassie are just due to the chemistry that she had when it 1100 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,960 came to Paul Rudd. 1101 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,000 Everything else that she pulled off was incredible. 1102 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:31,480 Like I loved her as Stinger. 1103 01:08:31,480 --> 01:08:33,720 Like I think she pulled off the humor really well. 1104 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,640 It was just the emotional moments. 1105 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,520 Just it didn't feel like they quite had that connection for emotional. 1106 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,680 But everything else I think they did freaking awesome with. 1107 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,280 So with this coin flip, I'm probably going to give it to Katherine Newton as my number 1108 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,280 three. 1109 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,800 I like with Evangeline Lilly. 1110 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:52,800 Like I agree with you. 1111 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,320 Evangeline Lilly would have taken this had she had more to do. 1112 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:03,240 My number two, I'm also going to agree with you, Paul Rudd. 1113 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,840 And this isn't anything against Paul Rudd. 1114 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:13,440 It's just that Jonathan Majors knocked this out of the park. 1115 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,160 He stole every scene that he was in. 1116 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:22,520 He was so intimidating just in stature, the way that he spoke. 1117 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,600 Like he has such a commanding presence in the scenes. 1118 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,040 It's nuts. 1119 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,280 I remember like when Agent Voltron first came out, I'm just like, yeah, you know what? 1120 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,360 I want James Spader to narrate my life. 1121 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,880 I think I might change that to Jonathan Majors. 1122 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,120 I love his voice so much. 1123 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:47,920 Yeah, he has a really good voice and intimidating one too. 1124 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:53,600 So I'm happy that this isn't the end of Kang and that we're going to get more. 1125 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,120 Yeah, same here. 1126 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,200 So that's what my top three looks like. 1127 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,400 Overall, what are you giving the acting score? 1128 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,560 I feel is the highest for me so far. 1129 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,960 Yeah, I really don't have a lot of problems with the cast. 1130 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,520 Well, except for, well, no, because it's not even his fault. 1131 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:13,880 It was the way that he was written. 1132 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,040 The freaking who played Modok again? 1133 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,800 Corey Stahl. 1134 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,600 Yeah, Corey Stahl. 1135 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:21,600 I don't even blame him. 1136 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,880 It's the way that he was written. 1137 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,640 What he was given, he actually did a decent job with. 1138 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,280 But I definitely agree with you with Katherine Newton. 1139 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:35,280 If it weren't for not having the chemistry there with her and Paul Rudd, definitely would 1140 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,920 have been higher for me with where I would rank her. 1141 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,400 But overall, she did an amazing job. 1142 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,800 Michael Douglas, incredible. 1143 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,560 Always with what he was given. 1144 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,000 Vangelin Lilly, like I said, Michelle Pfeiffer, just everyone did such a great job. 1145 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:59,160 So acting, I'm going to go an 86. 1146 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,000 It's actually really close to what I was going to give it. 1147 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,000 I was going to give it an 88. 1148 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,000 Oh, OK, cool. 1149 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,000 All right, next up, we got character. 1150 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:13,800 I just find it funny that so far you're almost higher in all the categories. 1151 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,000 Except story. 1152 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,480 Yeah, that's funny. 1153 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:24,000 Yeah, well, we'll see how character development goes for you. 1154 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,000 True. 1155 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,120 Good point. 1156 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,460 So what did you think? 1157 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:34,840 So I think you kind of have to do this off of Scott, right? 1158 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,480 Yes, I agree. 1159 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:41,160 Maybe and I was thinking about this after I saw the movie. 1160 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:48,480 In the trailers, I feel it was more hyped up the fact that Scott's dealing with Kang 1161 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:53,800 and agreeing with his idea of wanting more time with Cassie. 1162 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,200 I feel it was more hyped up in the trailers than it was in this movie. 1163 01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,200 Easily. 1164 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,040 OK, I'm not the only one. 1165 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,040 Good. 1166 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,220 So and I love that storyline and I wish that it was established more for his character 1167 01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:13,880 development because overall, like it's not a bad character development. 1168 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:17,920 Scott literally hasn't changed at all, but you really don't have to change Scott. 1169 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:18,920 He's Scott Lang. 1170 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,920 Nothing really. 1171 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,640 He's just a happy-go-lucky good guy. 1172 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,320 Nothing really needs to change about him. 1173 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,840 Bringing in the fact that he wants to spend more time with Cassie, considering that he 1174 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:33,520 lost five years with him being in the Quantum Realm. 1175 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:39,520 And you know, Kang, once they enter the Quantum Realm, you know, Kang, you know, telling him 1176 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,440 like, hey, if you do this for me, I can get you more time with your daughter. 1177 01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:48,680 I wish that that would have been established or more dived into. 1178 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:54,960 But for what we got, I guess it was it was a decent character arc. 1179 01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:01,160 I mean, not only with what he is going through with Cassie, but you also get, you know, his 1180 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,960 relationship with Hope that I not going to lie, I actually might have cared about that 1181 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,960 a little more, especially with with the ending with how they almost get stuck in the Quantum 1182 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:19,560 Realm together, which that should have been the way it was, but whatever. 1183 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:25,000 I feel we both of us are going to be so bitter about that now. 1184 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,400 But it like it has it. 1185 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,640 He had his moments. 1186 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,640 Don't get me wrong. 1187 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,880 He had his moments in this movie. 1188 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:38,280 But overall, I have seen better character developments and other Marvel movies by characters. 1189 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:43,860 And I feel that just it's Scott is a lot harder of a character to have like huge character 1190 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:48,000 growth with just because he's just a simple guy. 1191 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,240 And so when you think about where can we take him with character development or character 1192 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:59,480 growth, really, it's only like you can either take him two directions either with Cassie 1193 01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:00,480 or with Hope. 1194 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:05,280 You have to like do storylines with those two characters or just one. 1195 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,460 So I feel he's a little harder to do. 1196 01:14:08,460 --> 01:14:12,040 So I guess I can kind of excuse that a little bit, but not by much. 1197 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,400 What are your thoughts? 1198 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,900 No, I you pretty much covered it all. 1199 01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:20,600 All my issues, too. 1200 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,600 Sorry. 1201 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:28,080 No, it's it's hard to he's a hard character to do. 1202 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,400 Like he kind of has like that Captain America syndrome where you kind of know the choices 1203 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,520 he's going to make. 1204 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,520 So true. 1205 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:42,600 Um, I mean, Cassie's whole issue with him in the beginning was that he has the ability 1206 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:48,040 to do all this stuff and to make change, but just doesn't. 1207 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:55,520 And again, like you never see him take that active approach to making any change. 1208 01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:01,240 Like he everything that he it's everything he does is like reactionary. 1209 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,760 And I'm not saying that Captain America had that issue. 1210 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,280 I think Captain America had it like it was just very consistent. 1211 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:16,520 Like the the relation that I give that between the two is consistency between them, where 1212 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,440 Captain America is pretty much the same. 1213 01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:20,920 And it can be said like the same thing about him. 1214 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,760 And they're very much the same throughout. 1215 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:30,680 They do make some changes and some growth here and there. 1216 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:36,520 But I mean, overall, I think at their core, they are the same person. 1217 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:45,360 I do think that he he was challenged a little bit in taking a more active role in setting 1218 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:53,720 up like this basically revolution against Kang and having to lead these people. 1219 01:15:53,720 --> 01:16:00,040 I mean, Cassie kind of forced his hand with that, but he was able to like fight alongside 1220 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,920 people and everything and like ultimately make that change. 1221 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,780 So I mean, the arc wasn't itself wasn't bad. 1222 01:16:08,780 --> 01:16:14,600 So I mean, what are you sitting now with development? 1223 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,480 Just because it wasn't like great, but like they did the best that they could with the 1224 01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:24,760 character like Scott. 1225 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,320 God damn it. 1226 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,760 Like, I can't decide. 1227 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:36,800 Like I'm either between putting it the same score as my writing or like the little below 1228 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:37,800 story. 1229 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,280 You know, I hate to do that. 1230 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,320 I think I might go 78. 1231 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:49,280 I was going to go slightly higher than actually I might go the same score as my like writing. 1232 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,480 So I'm going to go an 81. 1233 01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:55,440 OK, damn, I'm being brutal on this movie. 1234 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:56,440 I don't mean to be. 1235 01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:59,720 I have a good time with this one. 1236 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:00,720 It's hard, dude. 1237 01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,840 It's so freaking hard. 1238 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,420 This probably isn't going to be difficult at all for us. 1239 01:17:07,420 --> 01:17:09,080 The effects. 1240 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:17,000 There were definitely not only Modok, but because I feel like we have definitely covered 1241 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,360 our thoughts on the effects for Modok. 1242 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,360 Oh, yeah. 1243 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,360 Modok look. 1244 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:29,040 I mean, if you take out the face, like if you ignore that, the mask looks cool. 1245 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,040 He flew around. 1246 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,360 Yeah, like everything about him was really cool. 1247 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:41,480 It's just once he took the mask off, you're just like, I'm just like shit. 1248 01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:45,480 But considering that, you know, this is the movie that we've spent the most time in the 1249 01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:48,080 quantum realm. 1250 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,040 There are many scenes that I'm just like, yeah, I can totally tell you are standing 1251 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,760 behind a green screen or a blue screen, whatever. 1252 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,200 Very much so. 1253 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,720 It's very easy, especially a lot of the group shot. 1254 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:07,440 I think like there were like a lot of ones where it was Hope, Janet and Hank that I was 1255 01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:10,400 like, yeah, I'm not even like being fooled right now. 1256 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,800 You're a freaking. 1257 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:18,040 I think it was the biggest scene for me was when they when Janet like goes to that like 1258 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,080 group and like like cuts off that one guy's arm. 1259 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,080 Oh, yeah. 1260 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,080 That's how that looked like. 1261 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,080 That looked like right. 1262 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,080 All right. 1263 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,840 That's a way to put it. 1264 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,840 I love that. 1265 01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:31,840 Yeah. 1266 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:32,840 Oh, my God. 1267 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:33,840 That was so bad. 1268 01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,840 I'm just like, it feels like you all aren't even trying with that. 1269 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:42,800 This movie had a two hundred dollar budget and that's all that we get for that scene. 1270 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,280 Yeah, dude. 1271 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,000 What the shit was that about? 1272 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:55,000 OK, I will say this minus that scene, a lot of the the rest of the scenes look decent. 1273 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,400 Yeah, I agree. 1274 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,160 Like you know, it's just they dropped the ball on that one. 1275 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:05,820 I will say I will say like even like the CGI for when they would press their and I want 1276 01:19:05,820 --> 01:19:11,720 your opinion about this, like the whole like now that like they can just press the the 1277 01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,160 fricking like turning into Iron Man now, they can just press like the centerpiece on their 1278 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,160 chest and like their suit comes on. 1279 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,160 Dude, I hate that. 1280 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,520 I didn't mind it. 1281 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,600 And I felt like the effects for that actually looked pretty good. 1282 01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,020 I'll say like it did. 1283 01:19:28,020 --> 01:19:29,200 It looked really good. 1284 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:38,720 I just I miss I miss them putting their suits on like normal people. 1285 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:45,840 Like I like feeling like like the mask was like almost an inconvenience. 1286 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:51,680 Like when like in the first one where it felt like very real, where he had like like having 1287 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,320 it like retract like fine. 1288 01:19:54,320 --> 01:20:00,960 Like if you want to have it retract and have that be CGI like fine, but I I don't like 1289 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,440 that they can just like, oh, I need to take my suit off and then I push a button and it's 1290 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:06,440 off. 1291 01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:11,800 I'm just like, I wish that they would have like show issues with them like putting the 1292 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:12,960 suit on. 1293 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,040 Yeah. 1294 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,960 The fact that the mask like comes back now to where it looks like a hoodie is like it 1295 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,160 kind of I think it's like fricking hilarious. 1296 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:22,600 I actually really dig that. 1297 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,360 I never liked how like with Iron Man when he would remove his helmet, that it would 1298 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,920 just like completely disappear. 1299 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:29,920 No, that's right. 1300 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,560 No, I like it, too. 1301 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,600 I just think it's funny that like whenever I see them on screen, I'm just like, hey, 1302 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,560 it kind of looks like a hoodie because you know that that's your mask. 1303 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,200 Yeah. 1304 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,200 I will say this. 1305 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:47,240 They jumped back and forth between wearing a mask and not wearing a mask way too much 1306 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:48,240 for me. 1307 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,720 Yeah, dude, straight up. 1308 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,320 Dude, I'm just like pick a side. 1309 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,760 Yeah, I'm like, just pick one. 1310 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,080 Keep it on or take it off. 1311 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:03,960 Like honestly, it was to the point for when Kang destroyed Ant-Man's helmet. 1312 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,280 I'm like, okay, thank God. 1313 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,000 He is just stuck to one choice now. 1314 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,920 Yeah. 1315 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:21,000 I don't know about you, but I picked up a scene that really stood out to me in a bad 1316 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,840 way, is when Cassie first shrunk. 1317 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,200 Did you notice how janky that looked? 1318 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,600 I did not actually. 1319 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,920 Maybe I just wasn't paying that much attention to it. 1320 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:34,920 Yeah. 1321 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:41,400 So it's when Modok's attacking whatever like that town is called or that base is. 1322 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:50,160 And so she activates her suit and goes to shrink for the first time. 1323 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:55,480 And she it looks so rough when she's running. 1324 01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:59,240 Like it almost looked like choppy. 1325 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,840 And I was just like, what in the actual shit was that? 1326 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,960 Okay, I'm going to have to go back and watch that. 1327 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:06,960 I believe you. 1328 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,160 I'm sure that that's exactly how it looked. 1329 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,520 I'm sure it looked very janky. 1330 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:10,520 Yeah. 1331 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,320 I'm going to have to go back and watch that. 1332 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:14,320 Yeah. 1333 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,640 It was very rough. 1334 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:19,640 Yeah. 1335 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:27,560 Other than that, though, the I mean, the rest of the effects looked really freaking good. 1336 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,560 Yeah. 1337 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:33,360 Like a lot of the quantum realm and I don't want to say quantum realm people quantum realm 1338 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,360 beings. 1339 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:35,360 Yeah. 1340 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,760 Those actually looked really good. 1341 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,160 And of course, when freaking Hank pointed out that one looked like a broccoli. 1342 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:43,160 And I was freaking. 1343 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,160 Yeah. 1344 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:49,960 I mean, I loved Hank's perspective because it's like he's someone that's studying or 1345 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,520 been studying the quantum realm and he's like he knows nothing about it. 1346 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,840 So it's like seeing it like gives him a freaking nerd boner. 1347 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,240 Like yeah, I loved that shit. 1348 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,240 Yeah. 1349 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,160 I loved like the way that he talked about the quantum realm. 1350 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,800 And Michael Douglas is just Jim. 1351 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,560 Like he sold out so well. 1352 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,360 I was just like, I could hear Hank talk about the quantum realm for like ever. 1353 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,360 Right. 1354 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,360 So, so good. 1355 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:13,360 Geez. 1356 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:20,160 I'm trying to think of like nothing else stood out. 1357 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,360 King looked really good. 1358 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,160 I love the mask. 1359 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,320 Yeah, that they made that look so freaking good. 1360 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:32,520 Like I was so afraid of that because I mean, like seeing now, like looking at like how 1361 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,520 King looks in the comics, I'm like, you know what, that could have gone really bad, but 1362 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,440 they pulled it off very, very. 1363 01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:40,280 Oh yeah. 1364 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,280 Super freaking well. 1365 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,280 Damn. 1366 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:52,120 Other like a sit other than like the super green screen looking interaction with Janet 1367 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:59,080 or like the PIMS, the little the janky moment with Cassie and maybe the face with Modoc 1368 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,520 or definitely the face with Modoc. 1369 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:02,520 Yeah. 1370 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,440 Like it all looked incredible. 1371 01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:06,440 Yeah. 1372 01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:10,000 Like the final fight, dude, was insane. 1373 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,480 Yeah, dude. 1374 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:12,480 That was awesome. 1375 01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,120 That was done very well. 1376 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:15,120 Yeah. 1377 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:23,160 I love, I love when we kind of get these nods towards the other Avengers and shit that they, 1378 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:32,080 they've done like with Scott grabbing that, that disc and using it as a shield. 1379 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,080 Yeah. 1380 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,200 Just like I freaking love that. 1381 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:42,880 And like, I love that they gave us some shit to see that was like stuff we'd almost never 1382 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,880 seen before. 1383 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:51,480 Like when, when Janet comes like flying by shrinks down or Scott shrinks down, she grabs 1384 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:59,080 Scott and just chucks him and then like mid flight, he turns into a giant like, and just 1385 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,880 cannonballs the freaking shield, like knocking it, like knocking it out. 1386 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:04,880 I'm just like that. 1387 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,680 That was dope. 1388 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,640 That was a great Ant-Man and the Wasp working together scene. 1389 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:11,640 Yeah. 1390 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:12,640 They need more of that. 1391 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:13,640 They do. 1392 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,800 Oh, dude, I forgot to bring this up in writing. 1393 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:22,800 I love when Cassie and Scott hug each other when they're both giant and fricking they 1394 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,920 throw in like the, like they bring it back to like civil war when she's just like, Oh, 1395 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,080 I'm like super hungry now. 1396 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,080 He's just like, yeah, right. 1397 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,240 You're in this, you want some citrus, right? 1398 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,720 It's kind of, it's kind of crazy that that's what you crave. 1399 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,480 I was like, I like the call back to civil war. 1400 01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:39,480 That's awesome. 1401 01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:40,480 Yeah. 1402 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:43,160 I freaking love it. 1403 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:49,960 So I mean, effects wise, I mean, the issues I had were like minimal. 1404 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:50,960 Yeah. 1405 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,840 Where, where are you sitting? 1406 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,720 I think I'll, I'll sit at an 80. 1407 01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:59,720 Damn. 1408 01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,840 I, I'm going to be a lot nicer to this. 1409 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,840 I'm sitting at like an 86. 1410 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,840 Damn. 1411 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,080 What is wrong with me? 1412 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:08,080 I don't know, dude. 1413 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,400 Like being a fricking hater. 1414 01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:12,880 Yeah, I am. 1415 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,720 I really liked this movie. 1416 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,680 That's the thing. 1417 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,160 I know dude. 1418 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,560 Like, okay. 1419 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,800 I understand, like I understand like your, your decision to go that low. 1420 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,960 I'm going to go up a little more. 1421 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:32,280 I'm like seeing if there's like any other categories I need to change. 1422 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,280 Just kidding. 1423 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,280 No, I think. 1424 01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:35,280 All right. 1425 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:40,960 Next up we got costumes or not costumes music. 1426 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,920 Unfortunately this was average it's MCU average. 1427 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:50,400 You know what sucks is like, it seems like the trailer, the mutant, the movies, God damn 1428 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,400 it. 1429 01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,400 Wow. 1430 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:53,400 Sorry. 1431 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:57,000 The music in the trailers is like better than what's in the actual movie because I don't 1432 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:02,280 know about you, but in the first trailer for this movie, they used yellow brick road by 1433 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,600 Elton John and the way that they used it was so fricking cool. 1434 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:07,600 So good. 1435 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,160 I'm just like, why couldn't you have done that with the music in the actual damn movie? 1436 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,160 Yep. 1437 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,440 Exactly, dude. 1438 01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:17,440 Exactly my issue. 1439 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:22,760 I was waiting for yellow brick road the entire fricking time and I'm so bummed that we didn't 1440 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:23,760 get it. 1441 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:24,760 Yeah. 1442 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:29,760 Cause that's not only such a great song, but they made it work so well for this movie that 1443 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,640 I'm just like, you couldn't have made it work well for not only the trailer, but also the 1444 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:34,640 movie. 1445 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:35,640 Yeah. 1446 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,080 I would have found a way to make it work with the movie. 1447 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,080 Yeah. 1448 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,080 Same here. 1449 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,080 But shit. 1450 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:49,280 Like again, is MCU average and unfortunately I think that's a seven. 1451 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,480 Yeah, I agree. 1452 01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,000 All right. 1453 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,000 Costumes though. 1454 01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:03,280 Dude, I'm like, I'm at a nine, but I can be talked to. 1455 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:12,240 This the only reason I'm not at a 10 is because they could have done better with Modoc. 1456 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,240 Fair. 1457 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,840 Yeah, that's, that's fair. 1458 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,600 Cassie suit looked really fricking good. 1459 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:24,000 Wasps new outfit was as comic accurate as you can possibly get. 1460 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,000 Dude, right? 1461 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,840 Like, oh my God, it's so good. 1462 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:28,840 Yeah. 1463 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:33,560 And then like, despite my feelings about the helmet and it being like automatic on and 1464 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:39,960 off, like, eh, whatever, like the suits are fricking killer. 1465 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:40,960 Yeah. 1466 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:45,600 Like I said, King's costume, chef's kiss. 1467 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,600 Oh yeah. 1468 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,920 And then if we're getting into like the character design for every, all the quantum realm creatures, 1469 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,360 like so good. 1470 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:55,360 Yeah. 1471 01:28:55,360 --> 01:29:00,440 My only issue is fricking Modoc and I think Modoc was enough to bring it down. 1472 01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:03,400 Yeah, I can definitely agree with that. 1473 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:04,400 Yeah. 1474 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,760 So definitely sitting at a nine there. 1475 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:07,760 All right. 1476 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,960 Last up, we got our own personal score for this. 1477 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,120 So Rose, you want to take this one first? 1478 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,080 I would love to. 1479 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,960 Are you just very interested to see what I actually like give this? 1480 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:23,440 I am so interested to hear what you're going to give this because you have not been nice 1481 01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:24,600 to this movie. 1482 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:30,080 I have not, which like I promise you, I loved this movie so much more than Thor, Love and 1483 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,080 Thunder. 1484 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,440 I like almost hated Thor, Love and Thunder, but I really enjoyed this one. 1485 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:41,880 Like you said, this might be my favorite out of the Ant-Man trilogy. 1486 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:50,320 But yeah, like, like don't get me wrong, you got some questionable CGI and there might 1487 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,480 be some problems with the story. 1488 01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:56,400 But overall, I feel it's a very good Ant-Man and the Wasp movie. 1489 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,760 I had a really good time with it. 1490 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:06,680 The characters are so, so good, minus Modoc. 1491 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,880 Everything else though is just super, super good. 1492 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:14,640 I really had a really good time with this one and came to conquer. 1493 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:20,840 Oh my God, Jonathan Majors still steals this fricking movie in like the best way possible. 1494 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:26,920 So I think I'm going to be, you know what? 1495 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,000 I think I'm going to be an 88. 1496 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,680 Damn, that is actually exactly where I was sitting too. 1497 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:33,680 Hell yeah. 1498 01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,560 Yeah, I had a blast with this movie. 1499 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,440 It was, it was a lot. 1500 01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:43,800 Okay, it wasn't as good as I was expecting it to be. 1501 01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:53,280 But like I do with most movies, I kind of try, I do my best to set my expectations aside. 1502 01:30:53,280 --> 01:31:00,200 And the stuff that they were able to incorporate in this movie and give us were really good. 1503 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,640 They introduced Kang extremely well. 1504 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:14,000 The only big issues with this movie are significant are, like we've discussed, Modoc looking like 1505 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:22,760 a fricking dweeb and the overall story itself. 1506 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:27,880 I think the overarching story is good. 1507 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:33,480 I think the whole situation with Kang trying to escape the Quantum Realm because it sits 1508 01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:39,600 outside of time and space is really interesting. 1509 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:44,240 But where it falls short and the reason it got so low is because I think they just, their 1510 01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,840 editing was just so off. 1511 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:52,320 And it just, it didn't make the story flow really well. 1512 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:57,320 I think there was maybe a time or two where the movie seemed to drag. 1513 01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:02,200 And I don't know if that's just because I had to piss really bad. 1514 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:10,320 Like it was so bad, I was 45 minutes in and had to go and I waited the entire fricking 1515 01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,320 movie to go. 1516 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,200 See, this is why I never get drinks at the movie theater. 1517 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:20,480 Unless it's a short, shorter movie, like an hour and a half, I know I can do it. 1518 01:32:20,480 --> 01:32:22,440 But like, yeah, no. 1519 01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:30,840 Like fricking, like, so last week actually, Friday, I went and saw Avatar 2 again with 1520 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,080 my buddy JC. 1521 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:37,560 And dude, I literally made sure that like two hours before I had like literally no liquids 1522 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:42,280 at all because I had to make sure that my bladder could take three hours. 1523 01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,440 Dude, I can't do that. 1524 01:32:44,440 --> 01:32:46,960 I need a drink. 1525 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:48,640 No, I get it. 1526 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,960 I don't know about, I get sweaty in the movies. 1527 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:58,840 Like even when the AC, yeah, like even when the AC is on, like I still catch myself getting 1528 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:00,760 super sweaty in the movies. 1529 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:01,760 Interesting. 1530 01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,480 And like I said, don't know why, but it's so interesting. 1531 01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:12,160 Yeah, so it's like I need a drink, but I didn't realize how, I thought this movie was a lot 1532 01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,120 shorter than it was. 1533 01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,920 I mean, it's still, I feel one of the shorter MCU movies, like barely over two hours. 1534 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:26,200 Yeah, barely over two hours, but like 45 minutes in and I was just, I like started feeling 1535 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:30,280 like I needed to pee and I was like, shit. 1536 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:37,440 Dude, I kept making the mistake of, I kept making the mistake of, I know that's what 1537 01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:38,440 was killing me. 1538 01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:40,960 I was just like, son of a bitch. 1539 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:48,360 I know, I was just like, okay, I know there's two, like shit, shit, shit. 1540 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:52,040 It's so, once you saw the King will return, you're just like, cool, I'm out. 1541 01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,040 Yeah. 1542 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:54,200 Oh my gosh, dude. 1543 01:33:54,200 --> 01:34:01,240 Like I was busting at the seams, but I'm so stupid because like I'll be sitting there 1544 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:07,280 and I'm like shaking my leg or just like bouncing my knee up and down. 1545 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:12,440 And so I'm like just trying to like get my mind off of it and then I'll take a drink 1546 01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:13,440 out of instinct. 1547 01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:14,440 I'm like, shit. 1548 01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:15,440 And like I swear. 1549 01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:16,440 Just made it worse. 1550 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:17,440 Yeah, I know. 1551 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:22,840 And I do it like multiple times. 1552 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,760 Like it's not just one time where I'm like, oops, accidentally took a drink. 1553 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,320 It's like the entirety of the movie. 1554 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:29,560 I'm just like, oops. 1555 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:34,400 Like even during the credits, I was taking sips of my drink and it was just like, damn 1556 01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:35,400 it, Caleb. 1557 01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,280 Dude, that is freaking hilarious. 1558 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,280 Shit, shit, shit. 1559 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:50,200 I know I should have paid better attention, but like I usually, what I usually will do 1560 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:56,760 is like a couple of days or before I go see a movie, I'll just start drinking like water 1561 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,400 really heavily. 1562 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:06,960 And so it's just kind of like preparing my bladder and it usually works, but I completely 1563 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,680 spaced on doing it for this movie. 1564 01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,760 So I kind of bit myself in the ass there. 1565 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:18,520 That's really funny that we both train our bladders in different ways for longer movies. 1566 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,120 Dude, that's what I did with Avengers. 1567 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,720 When we found out that it was like three hours, I was just like, all right, like I'm going 1568 01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:29,160 into training like a week before the movie comes out. 1569 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:33,660 And so I was just downing water like it was nothing. 1570 01:35:33,660 --> 01:35:41,560 And I like, you know, I had the freaking big ass drink from like the gas station that was 1571 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:48,960 like just packed full of water or lemon water or whatever that I was drinking. 1572 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:49,960 Yeah, I was. 1573 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,240 Dude, all I know is I wish I had your bladder. 1574 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,200 I hate my bladder. 1575 01:35:55,200 --> 01:36:02,760 Yeah, I got to the point like where I could watch like all the every single time that 1576 01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:11,400 I went to see Endgame in theaters, like I freaking killed it with not going to the 1577 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:17,280 bathroom and just like this one just caught me off guard. 1578 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:29,400 But anyway, so with those scores entered, that concludes this week's breakdown. 1579 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:35,960 So starting off with story, not a very strong start whatsoever. 1580 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:42,640 Sitting at a seventy seven point five writing got bumped up a few points and sitting at 1581 01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:48,780 an eighty point five acting is significantly higher sitting at an eighty seven character 1582 01:36:48,780 --> 01:36:53,920 development drops off quite a bit sitting at a seventy nine point five. 1583 01:36:53,920 --> 01:37:00,320 The effects is sitting at a very sturdy eighty four music is sitting at a seven out of ten 1584 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:06,800 costumes is at nine out of ten and then our personal score averaged out to an eighty eight 1585 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:07,800 percent. 1586 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:15,280 So with that, the final Albrows letter grade for Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum mania has 1587 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:21,320 come to a B. 1588 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:22,320 OK thank God. 1589 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,960 Dude, I was so afraid it was going to get like a C plus. 1590 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,720 I'm like, oh no, please no. 1591 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,920 No, it's a it was close. 1592 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:32,920 Like don't get me wrong. 1593 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,480 It was freaking close. 1594 01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:43,480 So it is sitting at an eighty three point three one percent. 1595 01:37:43,480 --> 01:37:48,560 Now my question is, though, is it higher than Thor Love and Thunder? 1596 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:49,560 Oh yeah. 1597 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:50,560 Oh, thank God. 1598 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,480 No, no, no question about that. 1599 01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:53,480 Phew. 1600 01:37:53,480 --> 01:37:55,560 OK, I did it. 1601 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:56,560 We did good, Caleb. 1602 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,560 We did good. 1603 01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,840 Oh, not that freaking good. 1604 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:00,840 What? 1605 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:05,120 So, OK, hold on. 1606 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:09,440 So do we want to do this like out of like the ranking out of just all the movies or do 1607 01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:13,080 we want to do an MCU ranking? 1608 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:14,560 What do you think? 1609 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,360 I could go either way. 1610 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,360 Let's do MCU ranking. 1611 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:20,360 All right. 1612 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,280 I hope that doesn't add more work. 1613 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,280 No it doesn't. 1614 01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,800 OK, thank God. 1615 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,440 All right, so here is where. 1616 01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:33,280 Oh, shit. 1617 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:39,960 OK, here is so we have this is not counting the movies that we haven't scored yet, which 1618 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,280 we need to freaking get on and just do. 1619 01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:43,280 We do. 1620 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,280 Yeah, sorry about that. 1621 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,480 No, you're good. 1622 01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:54,400 So our number one spot is Spider-Man No Way Home, followed really closely by Avengers 1623 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,400 Endgame. 1624 01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,200 Next Avengers Infinity War. 1625 01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,160 Then Black Panther Wakanda Forever. 1626 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,200 Then Eternals. 1627 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,520 Then Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. 1628 01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,440 Then Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. 1629 01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:14,040 Then that's above the Avengers. 1630 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:20,560 Or yeah, the Avengers Black Widow, Spider-Man Far From Home. 1631 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:26,720 The first Black Panther, sorry. 1632 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,400 Then Captain Marvel. 1633 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:32,160 Then Spider-Man Homecoming. 1634 01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,600 Avengers Age of Ultron. 1635 01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,280 Then Thor Ragnarok. 1636 01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,480 Then Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. 1637 01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:42,000 OK. 1638 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,260 Then Thor Love and Thunder. 1639 01:39:44,260 --> 01:39:50,840 And then in last place is the first Ant-Man, or is Ant-Man and the Wasp. 1640 01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:51,840 OK. 1641 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,160 What did we give Ant-Man and the Wasp? 1642 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,200 A C. Oh shit, OK. 1643 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:58,200 Wow. 1644 01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,200 Damn. 1645 01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,360 I didn't know we were that low. 1646 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,560 Yeah, we were really low on that one. 1647 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:11,840 But yeah, Quantumania got one place higher than Thor Love and Thunder. 1648 01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:12,840 You know what? 1649 01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,440 We're gonna win this victory. 1650 01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:16,600 Yeah, I mean the difference between those is 3%. 1651 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,040 So I mean, take it how you will. 1652 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:21,800 I will take it with stride. 1653 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:27,080 I think we have a very unpopular MCU ranking. 1654 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:32,240 Dude, I feel like the one that's gonna be the most unpopular one is Eternals. 1655 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:38,240 I mean, that movie has its lovers, has its fans. 1656 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:44,080 But considering that Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, from what I saw last, is now tied with the 1657 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,560 Eternal score and run to me. 1658 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,400 It was a lot of people do not like Eternals. 1659 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:55,640 Dude, I think the fact that we have Eternals above the Avengers is gonna get us a lot of 1660 01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:56,640 hate. 1661 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:57,640 Yeah. 1662 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,720 Now, the question is though, personally, do you agree with that? 1663 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,360 Unfortunately, yes. 1664 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:05,360 Really? 1665 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:11,160 I do not, but I can understand why. 1666 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:17,920 Yeah, I mean, I hate to do it, but yeah, I think there's a lot of controversial shit 1667 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:19,240 on here. 1668 01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:28,120 Like, Eternals being where it's at is super controversial. 1669 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:35,880 I'll say Shang-Chi and Doctor Strange both being above the Avengers is questionable. 1670 01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:37,680 Fair. 1671 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:42,920 I think the next thing would be Captain Marvel being above Spider-Man Homecoming. 1672 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:43,920 Yeah. 1673 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:48,520 I'm sorry, I would not agree with that. 1674 01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,160 Yeah, well, we're... 1675 01:41:50,160 --> 01:42:01,120 Okay, I think where the issue lies is, so before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, 1676 01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:04,560 this is what happened. 1677 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:12,280 So now, we separate our personal scores. 1678 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:19,580 So I now know for all the movies going back to, I don't know how far. 1679 01:42:19,580 --> 01:42:30,640 We have a detailed listing of my scores versus Rose's scores versus, if we have a guest on, 1680 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,280 versus their scores. 1681 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:36,840 So we're able to figure out whose scores whose. 1682 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,800 So if I wanted to find out just for shits and giggles what my score alone would give 1683 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:49,400 a movie versus Rose, I could do that. 1684 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:59,560 But unfortunately, with some of these MCU movies, we were not that well prepared to 1685 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,240 separate the scores. 1686 01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:07,280 So we're just kind of going based off of some of these are purely just me and Rose. 1687 01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:19,040 Like the Spider-Man Far From Home, that one was redone by our official third host and 1688 01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,480 guest, Vic. 1689 01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:24,760 Wow, throwing DJ... 1690 01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,560 Wait, are you saying? 1691 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,040 Throwing Vic under the bus there. 1692 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,040 Yeah, okay. 1693 01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,240 He was supposed to be on today, asshole. 1694 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:32,240 But he had to go... 1695 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:33,240 I was gonna say, well, you're throwing DJ under the bus, man? 1696 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:38,040 He had responsibilities and shit, like going and being an adult, like freaking bullshit, 1697 01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:39,040 dude. 1698 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:40,040 F that, man. 1699 01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,040 Who does that? 1700 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,040 Come talk superheroes. 1701 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:43,040 Yeah, come on. 1702 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:54,440 So anyway, we had this... 1703 01:43:54,440 --> 01:44:00,520 A lot of the movies that we did prior to incorporating this system, we had not done yet. 1704 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,520 So we had to go through, come up with all these. 1705 01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,040 So we had random people's scores thrown in here. 1706 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:13,320 There were some like Spider-Man Far From Home, where DJ and Vic, they re-scored it. 1707 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:19,240 We do have that updated score on our official ranking. 1708 01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,080 And we have it separated from our original ranking. 1709 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:27,000 But we're using our original ranking for Far From Home on this list. 1710 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:33,720 Unfortunately, with some of the older movies like The Avengers, Thor Ragnarok, I think 1711 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:37,880 Homecoming, we didn't have our system incorporated yet. 1712 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:45,240 So some of those have other people's scores attached to them. 1713 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,720 So I mean, that's just kind of the luck of the draw with us. 1714 01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,480 So yeah, so if you dislike our rankings... 1715 01:44:53,480 --> 01:44:57,040 Should we go back and like fix those? 1716 01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,040 I think we might have to. 1717 01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:04,000 Actually, I don't necessarily disagree with these either. 1718 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,520 Okay, maybe like costumes, I would disagree. 1719 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,200 We gave costumes an 8. 1720 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,720 For which movie again, I'm sorry? 1721 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,720 For Avengers. 1722 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:13,720 What? 1723 01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:19,000 I think that's because I had an issue with Captain America. 1724 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:20,000 Whatever. 1725 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:25,440 Like, maybe I can actually get away with the 8 then. 1726 01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:27,120 Fair. 1727 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,560 So that's why our MCU ranking is just kind of weird. 1728 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:35,480 We'll fix it eventually so we have like an official ranking. 1729 01:45:35,480 --> 01:45:37,400 But that's just what it is right now. 1730 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:46,720 So anyway, getting back to like our official rating platform system. 1731 01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,920 So Ant-Man and the Wasp is sitting at an 83.31. 1732 01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:58,440 That puts it below Bill and Ted Face the Music, which is at an 83.32. 1733 01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:03,760 It is below Toy Story 4, which is at an 83.42. 1734 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,480 Does that one hurt? 1735 01:46:05,480 --> 01:46:08,360 A little bit. 1736 01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:15,640 It's below Child's Play 2019, which is at an 83.43. 1737 01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:22,360 It is below James Gunn's The Suicide Squad, which is at an 83.5. 1738 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:29,320 And then finally, it is below Lady and the Tramp 2019, which is at an 83.51. 1739 01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:38,240 Going the opposite direction, it puts it above Shazam, which is at an 83.25. 1740 01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:44,360 It's above Violent Night, which is at an 83.18. 1741 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,720 OK. 1742 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:56,120 Then moving into B- territory, it is above The Greatest Showman, which is at an 82.93. 1743 01:46:56,120 --> 01:47:02,600 It's above the remake of Mulan, which is at an 82.62. 1744 01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:07,280 And then finally, it is above The Hunt, which is at an 82.47. 1745 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,280 OK. 1746 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:14,600 But like I said, The Greatest Showman, Mulan, and The Hunt are all B- smoothies. 1747 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,880 We just like to do 5 above, 5 below. 1748 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:18,880 Yeah. 1749 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,600 5 below, because you know, it's an actual store. 1750 01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,760 That might be the worst joke I think I've ever made. 1751 01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:29,760 I was up there. 1752 01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,980 Anyway. 1753 01:47:32,980 --> 01:47:36,520 Moving on from Caleb Jonathan's or Rose's. 1754 01:47:36,520 --> 01:47:37,520 God damn it. 1755 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:38,520 I'm just hearing this up. 1756 01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,240 Rose is a terrible comedy. 1757 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,320 Caleb, do you have anything else you want to add? 1758 01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:44,320 Ant-Man and the Wasp? 1759 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:45,320 Quantumania? 1760 01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,120 Uh, that I do not. 1761 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:49,120 OK. 1762 01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,280 Well, I would say that that concludes this episode. 1763 01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,680 If you like what you heard and you want to hear more, be sure to follow and subscribe 1764 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,240 to us wherever you listen to podcasts. 1765 01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:02,280 We are on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, iHeart Radio, Spotify. 1766 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:06,040 Literally anywhere you listen to, especially where you're listening to right now, we are 1767 01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:07,040 on there. 1768 01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:10,160 You can also catch all of our episodes on YouTube if that is your preferred listening 1769 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:11,160 platform. 1770 01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:20,000 You can follow us on social media or email us where you can DM us with an episode idea 1771 01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,880 that you have or if you want to join us. 1772 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,200 That would be awesome. 1773 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,140 We would love to have you. 1774 01:48:25,140 --> 01:48:26,200 Those are as followed. 1775 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:31,720 We got Facebook, facebook.com forward slash the Albrows, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok 1776 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:33,380 at the Albrows. 1777 01:48:33,380 --> 01:48:36,920 And email is thealbrowschannel at gmail.com. 1778 01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:41,080 If you want to check out our website, you can do so at tinyurl.com forward slash the 1779 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:47,720 Albrows or you can check out our merch store, which is teepublic.com forward slash user 1780 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,880 forward slash the Albrows channel. 1781 01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:56,640 Next week on the podcast, we'll be breaking down the Jim Parsons movie that just I think 1782 01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:04,800 came out this past holiday season, Spoiler Alert, which I am so excited to check out. 1783 01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,800 It's their LGBTQ rom com. 1784 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,760 So I'm so freaking excited for it. 1785 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,520 Well, I don't even know if it's rom com. 1786 01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:17,120 I don't know how funny it is or if it's just like really sad. 1787 01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:18,520 That is an excellent question. 1788 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,400 It looks like it's just really sad. 1789 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:22,400 Okay. 1790 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,480 So it's definitely not going to be like bros. 1791 01:49:25,480 --> 01:49:27,200 Probably not. 1792 01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:32,600 But nevertheless, I'm very excited to check this one out. 1793 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,960 So you can be sure to look forward to that next week. 1794 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,640 But until then, this has been the Albrows podcast. 1795 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,960 I am Jonathan and I'm Caleb and we will see you guys next week. 1796 01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:45,960 Dooshes. 1797 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:46,960 Damn it. 1798 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,760 I've been trying to work on a Carl Weiser voice and it's not going so well. 1799 01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,360 I felt I was doing well so far, but apparently not. 1800 01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:55,360 God damn it. 1801 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,400 Just a whole Jimmy's mom. 1802 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:00,960 How was that? 1803 01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:01,960 That wasn't bad. 1804 01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:02,960 Okay. 1805 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:03,960 I'm working on it. 1806 01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,440 I'm going to make it as good as Herbert. 1807 01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:12,400 Either that, I'm working on making that one as good as hopefully Herbert or remember Kyle's 1808 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:13,400 cousin Kyle. 1809 01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:14,400 Oh yeah. 1810 01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:15,400 Yeah. 1811 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,480 I'm like really working on that one. 1812 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:20,800 I'm pink. 1813 01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:27,240 So yeah, that's definitely one that I want to nail because yeah, God, that kid is so 1814 01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,960 freaking annoying, but I love his voice. 1815 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,200 Dude, do it. 1816 01:50:32,200 --> 01:51:00,200 Okay.