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This week on the podcast we got nothing for 4k spotlight or through the wall.
So we will just be straight jumps.
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Jumping straight into our headliner of the evening which will be our review of Shazam
Fury of the Gods.
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Alright, so like we said, or like I said, whatever, we are skipping over 4k spotlight
and through the wall because we ain't got jack shit to talk about.
So getting into our headliner of the evening which will be our review of Shazam Fury of
the Gods.
Caleb, do you want to break down movies on this podcast?
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into 8 different categories
that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade.
The 8 categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade as well as a percentage
that doesn't really matter too much but it is fun for us to see where this movie ranks
within that grade category or that grade whatever.
We have a ranking.
We have an official ranking and it is fun to see where they land.
So yeah, that is how we breakdown movies.
Yes, thank you.
I don't know why I took a huge part.
Anyway, I am killing it.
You seriously had me thinking, I am like, did I miss something?
Yes, you did.
Yes, yes you did.
Did I really?
Oh, no.
Okay, the reading with Rose?
Yeah, God man, how dare you skip over my specialty, my moment to shine.
Oh, we also missed question of the week.
We suck.
I know, we are having a freaking day.
I am having a freaking life.
Yeah, no shit, man.
Anyway, so if you guys happen to follow us on social media, we are on Facebook, Twitter,
Instagram at the Elbrows or on TikTok, we posted a question of the week for Shazam Fury
of the Gods and we asked between Solomon's wisdom, Hercules strength, Atlas's stamina,
Zeus's power, Achilles courage, and Mercury's speed, which of those abilities would you
like to have?
And we did get a few responses on that TikTok and only one of them is actually answering
the question.
God damn it.
So the first one, I will just go through the ones that have nothing to do with our question
of the week.
It is just more asking us to do a recommendation video about these movies.
So the first one we got is from Motion Bricks underscore who said, do Indiana Jones.
Then we have a response from Robert who says, day one of asking for Fast and Furious series.
There are probably going to be a lot of those days because I have only seen one Tokyo Drift
and maybe eight.
If you want to break those, if you want to review those by all means, but I am sorry
for me he is going to be asking a lot of days or she because I think those movies are dumb
and I refuse to watch them.
I do too.
The first one was enough for me.
Fair enough.
I have only seen two.
Well, I haven't seen two.
I have only seen the second one.
Oh, so that is all I need.
Fast and Furious?
Yep, that is the only one I have seen and that is all I need to see.
Yeah, fair.
Alright, next we got a response from Jacob Thurston who says, can you do Hustle?
I have never heard of that movie.
I think that is the one with Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson.
Let's double check.
I am pretty sure you are right.
Or is it the movie with Adam Sandler that is on Netflix?
I don't know.
They didn't specify, it just says can you do Hustle?
Let's see.
The one that you are thinking of is Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson.
Yeah, that one is Hustle 2.
That one is The Hustle.
So there is Hustle and The Hustle.
So it doesn't say The Hustle.
So it just says Hustle.
So if I had to guess, I am assuming talking about the Adam Sandler movie that is on Netflix?
I have not seen that one.
I have not either.
It's not a Netflix exclusive is it?
It might be.
Does it have the Netflix tag on it?
Yes, it is.
It's a Netflix original film.
I have not heard or seen anything about that movie.
I have not either.
So that one is definitely in the maybe pile.
I am intrigued.
Unfortunately, we get a lot of suggestions and we can't do all of them as much as we
would love to.
So let's see.
The next one we got is Levi Lundgren.
So stupid.
So Levi Lundgren, 187, who asked us to do The Wolf of Wall Street.
Still have not seen that movie.
I need to.
Same here.
And I have just not been able to make it through the whole thing.
Oh, shit.
I haven't even seen anything of it.
I tried.
So I think what happened, it wasn't because I didn't like the movie.
I think I was watching it and then something came up.
I had to turn it off for whatever reason.
And then I just kind of never came back to it.
Gotcha.
But again, that's not anything to say negative about the movie.
Like I feel like the movie itself was really good.
I kind of a piece of shit sometimes.
No, no.
Just kidding.
All right.
Next, we got a response.
We got one from Grand Theft Auto Editor or the real JaggedJames24, who says, can you
try raiding the bad guys?
Thanks.
And that one's definitely on the list because we freaking love the bad guys.
Yes.
I thought we did that one already, but I forgot that we did.
Did we?
Well, I don't think we were doing our system yet.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
That is an older movie.
So you can scroll down, but it's not in the format that we currently use.
Yeah.
Yep.
Good catch.
All right.
The next one is kind of in relation to the movie.
I say that kind of.
Yeah.
So this next response we got is from the Epic Crack.
I think he's referencing the South Park video game because his name is Fractured Butthole.
I love this guy already.
But they said, did you mean Shazamble's Fury of the Mid?
Damn, okay.
Well, we definitely know how he felt about the movie.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, no, because I don't know about you.
I know you liked it a little less than I did, but I actually really enjoyed this movie.
I'll get into it.
You'll see what I thought about this movie.
And then our last response, and one that actually answered our question of the week, comes from
our good friend DJ over at the Untrained Eye.
And he said, Solomon's wisdom was my gut reaction.
I think when I was a kid, I would have picked Zeus or Hercules, but I think God himself
granting you wisdom is probably the move.
Once you have the wisdom to yield strength and power, boom, you've got three for the
price of one.
I love it.
Thank you, DJ, always coming through.
I know, dude, that one was super well thought out.
Yeah, that was really good.
I mean, unfortunately, he wouldn't have the power of Zeus or strength of Hercules because
he chose wisdom, but...
A for effort.
Dude, wouldn't that be the shit?
You think you're making the good call and you're just like, you know what?
I'm choosing Solomon's wisdom.
And then as soon as you get his wisdom, it's like, you probably should have chosen Zeus's
power.
Son of a bitch.
But we'll get into this.
Obviously this isn't any spoiler or whatever.
Actually, it kind of is.
Never mind.
I won't say it now.
But yes, great, great response.
Like I said, super well thought out.
So we freaking love DJ and we will be having him on next week for a really fun episode.
It's gonna be more fun than the movie.
Probably.
You are probably not wrong there.
Literally, I can just see...
Oh, sorry.
No, it's just...
What were you saying?
No, I was saying like next week I could see it being like we get off tangent just talking
about like everything that's god awful about this certain movie.
And then we're just like, oh yeah, the story.
65.
Okay, getting back to our tangent.
It's gonna be for every single category.
Honestly, probably.
I will say this is...
Next week's episode is one that I've been really excited to talk about.
But we're here to talk about Shazam today.
So thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week.
We really appreciate it.
We would appreciate more responses to our actual question, but...
Instead of just movie recommendations, but we'll take it.
We'll take it.
We will definitely take it.
So anyway, yeah, so if you have not seen Shazam Fury of the Gods yet...
Wait for streaming.
I'm just kidding.
Oh, damn, dude.
I'm only somewhat kidding.
Only somewhat kidding?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
You don't...
Okay, whatever.
Go see it first.
There are some spoilers, and honestly, we'll be getting into this.
I'm trying real hard to wait after our spoiler warning, which we're like right there, but
still.
If you have not seen this movie, go check it out.
Do not watch any...
If you've only seen a single trailer for it, don't watch anything else.
Seriously, it will spoil the whole frickin' movie for you.
It's bullshit.
So go check this movie out.
It is good, despite what Rose is trying to trick you into believing.
Hey, I never said it was bad.
Yeah, you're not saying it's good either.
Oh, shit.
So go check it out, and then come back and listen to this episode.
So if you listen past this point, we are going to spoil the entire movie for you with our
favorite segment that we like to call Reading with Rose.
With two E's.
Alright.
Two years after Thaddeus Savanna's defeat, is that how you say his name?
Is it Savanna or Savannah?
Savanna.
Okay, just double checking.
Hespera...I'm probably pushing this, probably not Hespera, is it?
I don't know, I don't have the wiki page for this open.
Come on, Caleb.
I never have it open.
The only reason I have it open is when there are hard names for you.
I thought you could handle Shazam.
Not when it's talking about different Egyptian names.
It's not Egyptian names.
Yeah, sorry.
I'm sorry.
Okay?
It's Hespera.
Hespera.
I never would have guessed that, if I'm being honest here.
Okay, Hes...well actually wait, no yeah, I would have.
Yeah, it's like exactly how it's spelled.
I'm gonna shut the hell up now.
Okay.
Hespera and Calypso, two of the daughters of the Titan Atlas, break into the Acropolis
Museum in Athens, Greece to steal the wizard's broken staff.
The two then take it to the wizard, imprisoned in the God's realm, and force him to repair
the staff and activate its powers.
In Philadelphia, Billy Batson and his Shazam- they did not call it a Shazamily.
Oh my hell.
That's it, I'm done.
I'm out.
Friggin' stupid.
Shazamily, a foster sibling, save people on the collapsing Benjamin Franklin Bridge
but are called out for its destruction.
The group is drifting apart at home due to their growing up and having personal interests.
Billy is worried about being kicked out of the Vasco's family after he turns 18 and ages
out of the foster system.
In a dream as Shazam, Billy is warned by the wizard about Hes...Hespera...is it Hespera?
Is that how it is?
Hespera.
Hespera, god frikin' damn it.
Hespera and Calypso.
He and the Shazamily research the daughters.
Freddy Freeman, still bullied at school, falls for a new girl named Anne.
Yeah, I'm really effin' this up.
To whom he shows off his superhero self.
Hespera and Calypso arrive with the staff and steal Freddy's powers.
Anne is revealed to be their youngest sister, Anne-Anthea?
Billy and the other Shazamily tri- I'm not saying Shazamily.
Billy and the other Shazam members, I'm gonna say that, try to save Freddy, but the daughters
kidnap him and place an indestructible dome around the city, trapping everyone inside.
Freddy is imprisoned along with the wizard in the god's realm.
Hespera and Calypso reveal they want revenge because the wizard killed their father.
Meanwhile the Shazam...what did I say?
I completely- Just say the Shazam family.
Alright there.
Okay, the Shazam family enter the Rock of Eternity where they encounter a sentient pen
named Steve, which they use to draft a letter to Hespera as a negotiation for Freddy's release.
Billy meets Hespera and while the meeting is initially cordial, she and Calypso soon
fight with the Shazam family.
Pedro loses his powers during the fight while Hespera is captured and returned to the Rock.
Hespera easily breaks out and steals the golden apple, the seed of the Tree of Life.
Meanwhile Freddy and the wizard try to escape the god's realm with a sympathetic Anne-Thea's
help just as Hespera returns with the apple.
The daughters argue as Hespera and Anne-Thea want to use the apple to revive their realm
while Calypso wishes to plant it on Earth to conquer it.
Freddy steals the apple but is discovered though Billy and the Shazam family show up
and Freddy reacquires his powers.
Billy and the Shazam family emerge with the wizard in the Vasquez home where they reveal
their secret identities to their foster parents.
Calypso appears with a dragon named Ladon...Ladon?
I'm just going to say that...to acquire the apple.
All but Billy lose their powers in the Squirmish while Calypso retrieves the apple.
Calypso mortally wounds Hespera and D-powers Anne-Thea when they object to her destructive
plan.
Calypso plants the tree at Citizens Bank Park which spawns monsters that attack the city.
Billy in despair asks the wizard to revoke his powers though the wizard assures him he
is a true hero.
Reciting the wizard's words Billy turns into Shazam and flies off to stop Calypso while
the Shazam family enlist the help of unicorns to fend off the monsters in the city.
Meanwhile Billy persuades a dying Hespera to help him stop Calypso.
Realizing the dome reacts violently to his lightning Billy lures Calypso to the park
while Hespera shrinks the dome to contain them.
Billy fights Calypso and Ladon before killing them both by overloading the staff with electricity
destroying the tree and Calypso's army with them at the cost of his own life.
Hespera acknowledges Billy as both a hero and a god before succumbing to her wounds
and dying.
Anne-Thea brings Billy's grieving family to the god's realm for his burial.
Diana Prince, the last living being with godly powers appears and repairs the staff.
Imbuing it with her power and using it to revive the god's realm and resurrect Billy.
Billy then uses the staff to restore his siblings powers.
The Shazam family fixes their home while Anne-Thea and the wizard take up residence on Earth.
In a mid-credits scene, Emilia Harcourt and John Economos attempt to recruit Billy into
the justice society on behalf of Amanda Waller.
In a post-credits scene, a still-incarcerated Savanna encounters Mr. Mind once again and
infuriated with him that he hasn't begun to enacting their plan yet with Mind insisting
that more needs to be done first.
I wasn't able to stick around for that last one.
Oh you weren't?
Oh yeah you didn't miss much.
I figured.
I was pissed off because we had to leave.
Luckily I was able to stay to see the mid-credit where they were trying to recruit him.
But I wasn't able to stick around for the last one.
The last time we saw Mr. Mind, was he a caterpillar?
Yes.
Okay so yeah you didn't miss much.
He was still a caterpillar.
It was basically the exact same thing that the last end-credits scene was.
Yeah.
Anyway there are some story notes that I want to make.
The first one that I'm going to address is the whole not knowing what his name is.
Because he says it.
At the end of the first movie, they say when he gives the powers to his family, he grabs
the staff, puts it down and he says, say my name.
And they all say Billy.
And he's like no the name I say to turn into this guy.
And they're like oh Shazam!
Right?
Yeah.
So isn't that his superhero name?
Yeah exactly.
The issue should have been for everyone else.
Like trying to figure out what their super names are.
Not freaking Billy.
Yeah I'm thinking let's go Shazam-y, Shazam-o, Shazam-we, I don't know.
Yeah it was kind of ridiculous.
Because what did they do?
Captain Everypower?
Yep, yeah and then Captain Everypower Jr.
Yeah which is kind of funny.
Because at least between Billy and Freddy.
Because in the old comics, way back when Billy Batson was called Captain Marvel, yeah Billy
went by Captain Marvel and Freddy went by Captain Marvel Jr.
And so they just kind of like flip flopped it.
I like that.
Okay that's funny.
Yeah fun little call out there.
But yeah so that's like one story issue that I had that I felt was just bullshit.
I'm just like just call him, like it's hard too because it's like I understand where they're
coming from.
Where it's like they can't really run with that name.
And where he's like in a weird spot because saying his name turns him in like activates
his power.
Yeah fair.
Or like does the whole switch.
So being like you can't call him Shazam because then you'll like zap and turn into your human
form.
So it's just I understand the issues and I feel like the I feel like they should be able
to say Shazam without him actually transforming.
Like it should be something that he summons.
Yeah I mean I don't know if this would work but like maybe the tone that you say it in.
I don't think that would work no damn it.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
Like it just needs to be like I don't know.
Like maybe he needs to like do something extra where it's not just saying Shazam.
Where it's like he has to like stick his hand out or like both fists outward or just something
that makes it so it's not like where it doesn't feel like he could change on accident.
Yeah that's fair.
Like especially now that he has this name.
So that was an issue that I had and I feel like that was more of a story issue than anything.
My other issue is actually in reference to his relationship with his foster mom and you
know what I'm kind of talking about there.
Like the fact that because like it's been a minute like unfortunately I did not see
the first one again before I saw this one.
I should have followed in your footsteps with that.
But from what I'm remembering at the end isn't like he has come into more of a like doesn't
he call her mom in the first one?
No.
I thought he did.
I don't recall him calling her mom.
Okay.
I think like the big take there was that he put his hands in like to the family prayer.
So it's like he's accepted them as his family but maybe not quite ready to give the title
of mom.
I can't speak from experience because I've never been adopted or anything like that.
So like I don't want to say well if you're accepting this family why can't you call him
dad?
Why can't you call her mom?
I can't speak from experience with that because I'm sure it would take for some people it
takes more time than others.
Right.
Like you got to imagine like in a maybe like in a divorce situation like if one of the
parents gets remarried I know like there's a lot of times where like the kid never calls
them like dad or mom.
Yeah.
So I think that it's just you also got to think it's only been two years since he fought
Savannah.
So it's only been two years since he's like kind of accepted that his mom abandoned him.
So it's like it's fresh still at least I feel like it would be fresh but I feel like my
issue is like you got to think of someone like so with the Vasquez's that's so that's
the Victor and Rosa.
They take in foster kids because they were foster kids.
They were both in the system they both grew up within the system and they just take kids
into their family.
The issue is that I feel like they should know because like they take off and everyone's
like all right bye mom bye mom bye mom and then Billy's like bye Rosa and then she like
you can see that she's like almost bothered by that and I'm like you should know if you
were in the system I feel like you would know.
Like that's typical or that's not an uncommon thing to do.
Yeah no you got a point there.
Yeah so I just had some issues there and I think where my main issue lies is maybe not
necessarily that he hasn't like doesn't call her mom or that she has issues with that it's
more they address that at the beginning of the movie and then it's addressed at the end
of the movie where he finally is like where he calls her mom and I'm just like it that
didn't feel earned because it's like we never got to see any scenes between the two of them.
Yeah that is one thing that I have wrong with this movie.
I really I get that we get to see a lot of the Shazam family in this movie a lot more
than we saw in the first one but I wish it would have focused a little more on the actual
family aspect especially the parents.
I wanted to see that more.
Agreed I think that they needed a better growth between them because it just felt it felt
forced and one thing and I I really hope that I don't get hate for this.
They could have cut the whole Pedro coming out completely like that added absolutely
nothing to the story whatsoever.
See I had nothing wrong with it just because it was it was very subtle like was it though
I felt it for the most part I felt it was like I don't know maybe like I'm not bashing
on you but maybe just because I hope I don't come across as a dick saying this maybe like
the fact that you know I'm I am part of that community that like I love seeing that kind
of stuff so you know the fact that the whole scene with them Pedro when they say oh you
know we're superheroes and Pedro is the one that says oh I'm gay and Billy's just like
oh we already knew buddy and they they have like a really sweet moment and then they just
move on they don't make a huge deal about it I loved that.
Yeah but it's like they hinted at it a lot throughout this movie like they they start
off with it being like I mean you saw like Pedro and Rosa were watching baseball and
then he then he's like looking at pictures of guys and like in the baseball magazines
like it's more they hinted at it a few times where like even like Pedro's was like like
later in the movie he's just like I gotta go watch baseball yeah and it's just like
okay we know what you're doing and then like it's just my issue was that it didn't add
anything to the story it didn't like other than just letting us know that that's something
I think what they because if I'm remembering the first movie right Pedro doesn't really
have a lot of like nothing against the actors that play both his his human version and the
Shazam version doesn't really get a lot of character growth doesn't have a huge character
arc doesn't really have much to do as a character and so they wanted to do as a character in
this either.
I feel he did a little bit and I the only reason is because of the whole like oh hey
we got a showcase that you know Pedro is gay but he's afraid to come out he's giving these
subtle hints but will he actually ever come out and like I said I hope I don't sound like
a dick to you that maybe I like I liked it because I'm part of the community and I love
seeing that kind of shit.
I do too like I don't get me wrong I absolutely love seeing stuff like that I just wish they
would have done it better.
And that's fair that is completely fair but I like I I'm glad that it was included in
the movie I would not have cut it out.
I think him being gay I would have kept in I don't think I would have made it as big
a deal about it.
Like maybe like I can't remember if there were any subtle like anything in the first
one with it but like maybe just do like I think what they should have done is maybe
like the whole like basketball like not basketball I'm sorry them watching baseball at the beginning
keep that don't do the whole magazine everything maybe still keep the line when he's just like
oh I got to go watch baseball but I don't know you maybe be able to keep that out honestly
just like the beginning and then at the end when he says I'm gay like I feel that the
way that the lines that he has like oh yeah I'm like really getting into this and like
the the like you just I don't know you could tell that it's just like yeah he's not into
it for the actual baseball he's into it for another type of ball if you know what I mean.
Gross. I'm sorry it was right there I had to.
Yeah but I mean I get you I definitely get you there.
I think and I get you there too.
I think my main thing was I feel maybe they could have used that time to develop Billy's
relationship with Rosa a bit better.
That is fair.
And like as much as I like hate to say it like I think Pedro could have just been sidelined
again.
I mean because it was Pedro and Darla were both like Darla especially like she was sidelined
the hell out of.
Yeah she was.
So it's just like hey I mean if you're going to sideline a character sideline a character.
I mean Eugene had enough to do I think Freddie was.
I thought Eugene was so sidelined in this one compared to the first.
I think it made sense for him because it's like he did but just I don't know it kind
of sucked.
I missed the guy.
Yeah I mean like with with Eugene his thing was like going to map out the the what the
Hall of Doors or whatever the hell that is.
Yeah that's honestly what it is.
Yeah so that I think it made sense why he like it seems like he was almost like not
digging being a superhero.
Yeah I do like seriously.
I don't even like the way that he walked like when it was like the group walk and they said
she said yeah he was he was walking with I really don't give a shit about this.
Yeah.
Yeah so I think that was my my only like real issue.
You know what I personally would have done.
I would have so I would have developed Rosa's and Billy's relationship a bit more.
I would have made Victor a lot more suspicious of the kids being superheroes and then when
they like finally like come bashing like barging into their bedroom and are like we're superheroes.
I would have much prefer them to just kind of sit there in shock and then him be like
I knew it.
Yeah I would have liked that much better.
Yeah I think it would have come off as like super funny.
Yeah like and like the way that I imagine it too like is if they did that like the exact
same scene with like exactly how it played out with Pedro too where they're like all right
it's time to tell everyone guys and then they're all we're superheroes and then Pedro's I'm
gay and then Victor's like I knew it like and then it's like the superheroes.
I also knew about you Pedro but but like just something like that.
Yeah like still addressing like the Pedro thing but like I think that would have been
really freaking funny.
No I can definitely agree with that.
I think they probably could have gotten away with doing it a lot earlier too but I mean
the pacing with that felt right so no issues there.
What did you think of the daughters of Atlas?
They were fine.
I kind of thought they were just like I felt that Helen God what's Helen Mirren's character?
Hespera.
Hespera and even their youngest sister oh my god.
And Thea.
And Thea I don't know to me they were just bland like they were all right.
Lucy Liu's Calypso I had a I had a really fun time watching her whenever she was on
screen because you could definitely tell that she was having a fun time playing a villain
and it really showed like honestly I want Lucy Liu to play more villains after this
movie because she's she does a really good job.
Oh we already got our disagreement.
Yep we have a disagreement.
Well we already had a disagreement but here's another one.
This is more of an acting issue so I will save it for acting like my issues.
I do feel like yes Calypso was a very good villain like someone who's just very hell
bent on revenge where and it felt like Hespera was kind of going that route too but I think
she just wanted it felt like Hespera wanted more justice than anything and Thea didn't
like just kind of was like why don't we just leave him alone.
Yeah honestly when it was revealed that and Thea was the third sister I I'm sorry I was
just like well this is kind of stupid.
Like it honestly really was like I honestly really just wanted her to be Freddy's love
interest I've been fine with that.
I did not need her to turn out to be the third sister.
It's because they don't it came out of nowhere.
Yeah it really did like we don't get like a little tease about it or anything like I
think it would have been a lot more effective had the introduction to the daughters of Atlas
been where all three of them come into the the museum and do that thing and then you
see and Thea kind of maybe like she keeps her mask on and everything but you see her
have that uh that maybe that issue or struggle or hesitancy about doing whatever Calypso
did to the patrons of the museum.
Yeah can we talk about how effed up that was like Jesus oh my gosh that was jacked up dude.
So I mean that made her like I don't think they utilized that ability enough.
They did not like she used it in the museum she used it on on Freddy and then she freaking
used it on that teacher which that was jacked.
Yeah seriously I liked that guy freaking bitch.
Yeah so I think I think they could have gotten away with doing like a reveal like that.
Like I think they they what they could have done is show that there is a third sister
and then it's like oh random new girl like make us suspicious.
Yeah I would have liked that.
Yeah so I mean it worked for what they did with that but I really dug the where and Thea
was just kind of going along going with the flow like oh we're going to restore our like
I think her thing like she didn't want to do anything evil or anything to like compromise
like whatever morals she has.
So it's just like she was along for the ride like trying to be helpful and restore their
realm where Hespera was seeking justice and like but her ultimate goal was to restore
the realm where Calypso was just full hell been on revenge.
So I think that the contrast between those three was was great.
I'll give you that.
I got a question for you.
What's that?
Because me and Christina both agree with this.
Doesn't Billy when he's in Shazam form act a little too childish for someone.
Very much so and I was going to bring that up in acting.
Okay yeah I guess it's more of an acting thing.
Okay so we'll save it for that.
But yeah I totally agree.
Okay okay awesome but other story I mean do you have any other story issues like like
the plot is decent like I do like like that for the sequel they decide to expand on the
fans in it a lot more but you can definitely tell that they definitely wanted to focus
on certain members more.
And so like Caleb said that some of the most of the family does get the side does get sidelined.
Yeah I think the most like maybe from most sidelined to least it's probably Darla at
most then Pedro then Eugene then Mary, Freddie and Billy have the most to do.
Mine would be different.
Really?
Yeah I feel Eugene is sidelined the most then Darla then wow his name is Hardy.
Pedro thank you.
Then I already forgot her name.
Mary.
Mary thank you and then Freddie and then Billy.
I will say this if anyone got sidelined the most it was Billy.
Dude straight up Astro Angel was barely in this freaking movie and it pissed me off.
I know.
Because he does such a great I loved him so much as Billy Batson in the first one.
My honestly I think I probably liked him more than Zachary Levi.
But I'll say this they should have done the family meetings in kid form.
Yes thank you.
They really should have because it pissed me off that Astro Angel is like probably like
all together in this movie for like less than five minutes of screen time.
It's bullshit.
Yeah that was one thing I noticed a lot.
I'm like they're spending a lot of time as their super powered their super powered selves.
And that's like all the kids are good actors they're not there's nothing wrong with them
so I don't understand why you can't have them meeting as them as kids.
Yeah.
Like don't be wrong all the actors that play them as like the Shazam versions of them are
great too.
Both versions are great but I think it would have been a lot better if it were was them
as their human form.
So where you sit like I other than that like other than like this stuff that we've already
brought up the story itself like if you if you're just getting bare-bunt like I think
we're getting into more like individual characterizations.
But I think story itself like the story was pretty freaking good.
I thought I thought it was just good.
I would say it's on par with the first one.
I think the first one story is a lot.
So for me story wise I'm at a seventy five.
Yeah honestly I'm I'm not too much higher than you.
I am higher but I mean I'm not just I might be like a seventy nine.
They're like I said a little higher but not like crazy higher.
Anyway moving on over to writing.
I am actually pretty a little higher than story on this because I feel the writing was
spot on.
I will definitely say that yeah I'm definitely higher with writing the story.
I will say there are a couple of jokes that went on for far too long.
The whole the wizard not remembering Freddy's name.
It was funny the first time.
Well OK I don't think it was like a joke.
I think he was just doing it to be a dick.
Even that even if it's just to be a dick I feel it went on for far too long.
Fair.
But that's just me.
There is OK.
We had me me and Kristina had a very interesting theater experience with this one.
What because yeah well so so there was there was a dad that brought his I think five sons
to this movie.
Oh and literally the moment that he sat down we both hated him because he I think one kid
accidentally went far too over on the seat count and he literally leans over to his son
is just like are you guys freaking our word.
And I want to be like are you freaking kidding me dude.
OK yeah so you're just a straight up asshole.
You can kiss my ass dude.
And then like if you're just an asshole here but remember he's the asshole.
Well no no no no no.
This is something to do with one of his kids.
Remember the scene where Billy is having a fantasy about him being on a date with Wonder
Woman and then it turns in and then the wizard's face appears on Wonder Woman's body.
There was a kid one of his kids straight up would not stop laughing at that scene even
five minutes after that scene happened.
The kid just thought it was the funniest thing ever.
And I wanted to shout out it's not even that funny.
The kid will not shut up.
This is like it was the funniest thing ever to him.
Oh man.
I mean I feel like.
But it wasn't that funny.
I feel like I'd be the asshole with my kids like if they did something like that like
where they were laughing too long at something I'd like lean over.
Shut the hell up.
I do the same.
I really I'm so anal about like the way that I watch movies or when I go to the theater
because if anyone does anything to distract me from the movie I'm ready to freaking throw
hands.
Oh dude.
Same here.
The slightest bit of screen that I see I literally just want to shut up.
Are you freaking kidding me.
You paid ten bucks for this shit and you have to.
Oh I gotta check my Facebook.
You paid ten bucks to see this shit.
Why aren't you focused on this.
OK I gotta tell you.
You know God I.
So me and Brielle went to this movie today.
Like as of the day that we're recording.
In the middle of the movie she pulled out her phone to check and see if there were tickets
available for a another movie later in the month.
I know I was I was pissed.
Like I leaned over and I was just like what are you doing.
Just like oh like because she was making it seem like it was the sitter and I'm just she's
not even over yet.
I'm like we're in the middle of the movie we're not leaving.
And I'm like so I don't know what you expect us to do.
Like it's not an emergency.
Like I understand.
Like if we got an emergency text definitely like handle it.
Yeah.
But it wasn't.
It was just her.
It was just her being like oh Iris isn't really enjoying the dog because she she had to bring
her her dog today.
Yeah.
So she's just more telling Brielle.
Oh Iris isn't really enjoying the dog.
And I'm like OK I see that.
Like hey your kid isn't liking the dog.
Nothing I can do about that.
Put my phone away.
But her she saw the message and then he like went on the website and I like watched the
movie.
And she's just like it was the sitter.
And I'm like on the freaking theater website.
Bullshit.
Put your phone away.
Was she not into this movie.
I don't know.
I'm very intrigued because it doesn't seem like she liked it that much.
I don't know dude because it's like.
I will say this like if there's anywhere where me and Brielle are just like so completely
opposite where it's a borderline incompatible.
It's movie watching.
OK.
Because with me if there's a movie or show that I haven't seen before.
My.
My utmost attention is on that movie.
Like my phone is put away or like it's off to the side.
I'm not touching it.
I'm focusing on the movie.
I will not pause it unless I'm like unless I'm at home.
I will.
I try my best not to pause it like I'll freaking let my bladder.
Jack me up a little bit if.
Like to avoid pausing.
But I mean I will if I have to.
I'm not doing anything else.
My full attention is on the movie.
Whereas Brielle she will do random shit and not like she'll.
Like she'll say oh let's watch this movie like I haven't seen it before.
OK let's do it.
We'll put the movie on in our room and she'll start like folding laundry and I'm like are
you serious.
Like you're not even watching.
And then she's just like I am and I'm like are you.
And then like something like will happen that's more visual.
And I'm like what just happened.
And then she won't be able to tell me.
OK but I do have a question about that.
What movie was she looking at to buy tickets for later next month.
The Land Before Time.
Oh they're showcasing.
Yeah.
It's a like an old movie showcase and she was looking for tickets for Land Before Time
and I'm just like.
Holy shit dude that's hilarious.
Yeah like I said this is the this is the only part of our relationship where we are like
utter complete opposites bordering incompatible.
But oh dude that's funny.
It is so aggravating because she like she'll ask like she wants me to watch Mandalorian
with her.
And I remember watching season two damn near by myself.
And so I was like OK and then I watched Boba Fett and she's like I started watching Mandalorian
season three.
She's like what are you doing.
I'm like watching Mandalorian like what.
And she's like I thought we were watching that together and I'm like are you.
What made you think that.
Like you didn't even watch Boba Fett with me.
And she's just like oh well.
And well she has her excuse.
And then I wanted to watch the new episode which I still have it.
I still haven't seen three yet but she she.
I ask her like she comes in to the front room and she's watching some bullshit show on her
tablet.
Not even paying attention to it.
And I'm like hey do you want to watch Mandalorian.
Like while we're here like it's before the the sitters come in like we're waiting on
her like it's still about like an hour or two before she.
Comes hey one watch Mandalorian and she's just like oh like not yet.
I'm like OK.
I'm like well I'm going to turn on Shazam like and then like I'm like OK I'm going to
turn on Shazam so I turn on the first Shazam and watch that.
But then she like came out and she's like if we watch Mandalorian are you OK if I like
fold clothes.
I'm like no.
Like pay attention.
Like there's so many like visual things that you need to hit you'll miss if you're not
paying attention.
So it.
I love my wife to death.
But the way that she watches movies makes me want to peel my skin off.
Anyway that's that's that's my quick little rant because she like it's just your theater
experience like they're speaking of like my theater experience there was some dude who
did what didn't even watch half the movie.
The hell was he doing.
So he kept leaving.
Like so when we came in he was sitting in the back row like in the in the corner.
And I would catch it while he was playing on his phone like and it was it was obviously
a game because there was like a lot of color on his phone.
And so he'd play for a little bit.
Then it like it go dark.
And then I'd see him get up and leave and he'd be gone for like a really good portion
of the movie.
And then he'd come back and then he did.
It is like the same process like you play on his phone get up leave for like an indeterminate
amount of time and then come back.
And I'm like what the hell is this dude doing.
Oh dude that's hilarious.
Yeah like I hate when I probably sound like such a dude saying this.
I don't like when people don't watch the movies right.
Like honestly the only person that watches movies correctly is you.
That I've like been with.
Because like you get it.
Like if you have like if you get a message on your phone like not very often like but
you'll you'll check it but you'll like immediately put it away.
I actually will not.
I don't I don't know if I did back then.
No like I think I think out of all the times we've gone to see movies you've maybe checked
your phone like one.
OK.
And I think it was just because you were checking out.
Yeah.
I'm the same way.
I'm just like my phone will be going off and I'm like f it.
Yeah.
Like it's not like I'm leaving.
My work could be burning down.
I don't care.
Yeah.
So yeah I'm just.
Gosh I forgot what why we got off topic like that.
I was just talking about our theatrical experience.
I forgot too.
So writing.
Yeah so writing.
Solid.
Pretty solid.
It was I feel like they had some really good bits.
I think there were some jokes that maybe went on a little long.
I think the whole thing with and Thea was a little kind of out of nowhere but straight
up.
Overall I think it worked.
It did.
I seriously hate so much.
I should have said this a story.
I hate so much that that frickin Wonder Woman cameo was spoiled in the TV spots.
Dude.
I was so desperate for people to go see this movie.
Dude.
I would have been so happy when her theme kicks in and I see her for the first time.
Oh yeah.
Wonder Woman's back.
It's frickin awesome.
No I'm just like yep.
No that was coming.
Yeah like when they're literally burying him and like Freddie puts the picture on his grave
I'm just like yeah I already know this atmosphere.
I know Wonder Woman's come to the rescue.
Exactly dude.
I already know how this is playing out.
Dude and all I have to say is Shazam better frickin come back.
Like Zachary Levi he better frickin make an appearance in the new DC universe.
For how tight him and oh my god James Gunnar I don't see any problems with that.
And he's also tight with Peter Safran so he's got a future.
He better because I'll say is if they know that this version of Shazam is not going to
be in the future DC universe they missed an amazing opportunity to just let like this
would have been like such a good like final chapter for him.
Like if they would have just like let him die that would have been like amazing.
Like heartbreaking but amazing.
Yeah.
So I think that it was a missed opportunity and all I have to say is he better frickin
make an appearance in the DC universe.
If they recast Billy Batson and Shazam I'm going to be beyond pissed.
Same here man.
Same here.
So anyway I will say there were some like good jokes out of that though when he like
did like come back to life and they're just like ah zombie.
Yeah that was good.
And then when he's just like what the hell guys I was dead for like what two minutes?
I thought that was pretty good.
Think of something else.
So he I'm just realizing he was dead as Billy.
Yeah yeah he was.
So there is no good reason that he should have been Shazam when he came out of that
grave.
Yeah.
Yeah so yeah he's yeah that made no sense.
Yep.
So definitely some issues.
Plot hole there.
But I mean that's such a minor gripe.
True.
Although I think the writing was on point very little wasted dialogue if any.
Like I will say I enjoyed some of these jokes more than the first.
I can definitely agree with that one.
I think one of my favorite jokes is when he's fighting against Hespera in that like little
underground area and she's like forming that ball and about to throw it at him and he's
just like did your father had super speed?
And then he swaps them places and he's like nope.
Yeah.
Like right after it just wrecks her.
Easily my favorite joke.
I will admit I maybe I shouldn't have.
Oh no I thought it was fine.
The whole Billy's Shazam character when he like is pretending that the cards are heavy
he's just like no actually it's not hard at all.
I did chuckle at that.
That was pretty funny.
Yeah it's it kind of still gives off that like very much so like it's that vibe that
they're kids.
Yeah and I will say this if there's anyone that does the adaptation between their kid
form versus their Shazam form it's freaking Freddy.
Like those two feel perfectly identical.
Oh yeah they feel like they're just one.
I love.
Yeah which I mean we'll get into with acting here in a second but yeah writing wise I'm
decently higher.
Like I think I might be at like an 86.
Like I enjoyed it significantly more than like just the overall story.
That's fair.
I think I'll go an 80.
That's fair.
All right moving on over to acting we have Zachary Levi who played Shazam.
Asher Angel who plays Billy Batson.
Jack Dylan Grazer who plays Freddy Freeman.
Rachel Zegler who plays Anthea.
Adam Brody who plays superhero Freddy.
Ross Butler who plays superhero Eugene.
DJ Katrona who plays superhero Pedro.
Grace Carolyn Curry who plays both versions of Mary.
Yeah is that ever explained?
Like why she like her her human form and Shazam form are the exact same?
No but I think a lot of people didn't really notice that they did a cat or they had someone
else playing her.
Oh oh really?
I didn't yeah I didn't even notice that.
Yeah like in the first movie it was the like it was two different people.
Like it was it was Grace it was Grace Curry that played Mary still but someone else played
her superhero form but her superhero form actress looked so much like her that people
thought it was just her playing the same role.
Oh okay.
And so when it came to this one they're just like screw it and that's like all they did
is all they do is just throw her in a little bit more makeup.
And she's saying okay I mean you know save some money why not right?
Yeah all right Megan Good plays superhero Darla.
We have Faith Herman who plays kid Darla Ian Chen who plays Eugene I'm gonna say Hoven
Armand who plays Pedro or kid Pedro Marta Malan's who plays Rosa Vasquez Cooper Andrews
who plays Victor Vasquez.
We have Helen Mirren who plays Hespera Lucy Liu who plays Calypso and then Jemon Hounso
who plays the wizard.
So yeah this this cast list was a little bit longer since we have two versions of everyone.
This is true.
So this is this is gonna be an interesting one.
All right let's do let's do top three but then and then the top three Shazam form and
kid form.
Okay I think I understood that.
Yeah I didn't explain that very well but who did better at adapting their their Shazam
like where their kid form matched their Shazam form because I don't know about you but Billy
is not top of my list.
No no he's not.
I would definitely agree with you.
So let's just start off with like top three.
Number three I'm gonna give to Lucy Liu.
I really enjoyed her portrayal as Calypso.
It looked like she was having a lot of fun and because of that I had a lot of fun watching
her.
So yeah so yeah I'd give her number three.
Number two number two number okay you know number two I'll give to Zachary Levi.
You can like even though I have problems with how he portrays Billy Batson he's still really
fun to watch on screen.
You can definitely tell he has a very fun time playing this role.
So I'd give him number number two.
But number one I gotta give to Jack Dylan Grazer.
I loved him in the first one and I loved him even more in this one.
He is so good in this in this role.
And like we pointed out even Adam Brody who plays his superhero form Freddy does great
but I was talking about Jack Dylan Grazer.
Guy like all of his jokes he nails.
He has a really good I feel character arc in this movie and he does a great job with
it.
So I would give him my number one.
The only one that I disagree with you there is my number three.
Okay.
Yeah I'm exactly the same.
Jack Dylan Grazer is my top spot.
He was a freaking powerhouse of acting.
Dude right.
He really was.
They were freaking blew me out of the water is when his teacher frickin walked off the
school.
Yeah.
Damn.
Like that was frickin wild.
Again his act acting during that scene was just fan frickin tastic.
Like his acting through this whole thing was frickin fantastic.
And I loved how they showed like they showed off that Freddy is a frickin powerhouse when
even in his human form.
Like being able to resist the Calypso's chaos magic and then being able to resist the like
the fear paralysis that the dragon does to people.
Like that was frickin nuts.
My number three though.
This one's frickin tough.
I think I might have to give it to Grace Curry who played Mary.
That's fair.
She was great.
Yeah she was fantastic.
I really like just the heart to heart that she she was having with Billy.
Again I think it would have been a little bit more impactful had it been Billy and not
Shazam.
But I mean it worked out.
So yeah I'm I think I'm gonna give her my my number three.
But yeah Lucy Lou is a really close number four.
All right now let's do like the top three like portrayals of who did the changes better
between their kid form and and a Shazam form.
Okay question with that do we do we count Mary considering she's the exact same actress
or no no okay just check it out.
So yes Mary does not count because it is the same actress.
Okay got it.
So if I'm doing that then I'm going to say number three I don't know because like okay
yeah number three I'll give to I'll get okay.
So so are we saying just the so are we saying the actors both actors for the roles or yes.
Okay so playing the same character just different versions.
Okay like who did the better adaptation like switching between the two like it still felt
like the same person.
Yes okay got it.
So for me number three I would give to Yovon Armand and DJ Katrona who played both played
Pedro.
I feel like I this is nothing against the actors but I feel like Pedro is a very like
kind of melaton character.
He like he'll like he'll have the moments where he like he like he he needs to say something
big and so like it's portrayed like that but for the most part he's just a melaton character.
He's kind of in the nicest way possible he's kind of just there.
But I feel that these both both these actors do a good job transitioning between them and
it still feels like the same character.
Number two I would give to Faith Herman and apologies.
So Faith Herman and Megan Good who play both played Darla.
I loved both of these performances in the first one and I loved them just as much in
this one.
Like honestly still feels like the exact same character for how excited they both get just
for how giddy they both are.
It's just great watching them both of these actresses when they are on screen.
I just have such a great time with them.
So both those ladies would be my number two and then number one I got to give to Jack
Dylan Grazer and Adam Brody who play Freddie.
Like Kayla pointed out it's literally they are the same person.
The transition is flawless.
It's just perfect.
It truly feels like the exact same character and I love it so much.
So that would be my top three.
Damn.
Dude this one was a tough one because I got to say out of the changes the difference between
Zachary Levi and Asher Angel is probably the weakest of all of the Shazam family.
Yeah.
I would honestly rank him last.
Yeah and that's a tough thing to say because I am absolutely with you.
Then the only change I would probably give my number three spot to Ross Butler and Ian
Chen who played Eugene.
That's fair.
It was honestly a coin flip between you.
Yeah it was real close.
But again so like if I had to do it in order it would be Freddie on top or the portrayal
of Freddie on top then again my number two same as you Darla.
My number three like I said given to Eugene and then Pedro and then Billy.
And again we're not counting Mary because it's the same person.
Yep.
If it was the first one it would be different but not this time.
Yeah so I think you hit it right on the head with everything about Darla and again same
thing with Freddie.
I think they did such a good job.
I would love to see the interaction that Jack Dylan Grazer had with Adam Brody because
supposedly Zachary Levi and Asher Angel hung out a lot and tried to like match the tones.
Because I think Zachary Levi was just playing it a little too enthusiastic.
He's acting way too childish.
Like in the first one completely makes sense.
First time getting your superpowers is all new to you.
Completely makes sense.
This one he's 18 or he's almost 18.
He's not 16 anymore.
Powers aren't new to him.
He's had these for two years.
So I don't know maybe it's just he gets like way too he sounds way too much like a little
kid when it comes to playing Shazam.
And that is not how Billy is in this movie.
It feels like two very different people.
It really does.
And it's hard to imagine like the way that I see like that I think about it is can I
see like with Adam Brody.
Like with Adam Brody's Super Freddy can I see Jack Dylan Grazer acting the exact same
way and the answer is always yes.
Same thing with Darla.
I think it's like exactly the same thing with Darla.
Like Darla is exactly the same in her superhero form as she is as a kid.
Same thing with Eugene.
Same thing with Pedro.
I think the only reason Pedro is like closer to Billy is because I feel like the and this
is just mainly because we didn't we haven't gotten to see like a full like the change.
Like we haven't got to see them do like any crazy scenes.
It's just we've gotten like a couple lines here a couple lines there from Pedro.
So nothing too significant.
So that's the only reason that I'd put him a little bit lower.
But yeah Billy and Shazam they feel like two very different people.
Like there's things that I couldn't imagine Billy Batson saying when he's in his Shazam
form or the way that he's acting.
I'm just like I don't know about that but I mean it is what it is.
I do got to say this.
The older Asher Angel gets the more I think he needs to play Danny Phantom.
Dude, he'd be so perfect as Danny Phantom.
Can that please happen?
It needs to.
If there's anything that what's his name butch butch Harmon?
Yeah butch Hartman.
Yeah Hartman.
Okay if there's anything that he has created that needs to be in live action it is freaking
Danny Phantom.
Yep.
And please reference our Dreamcast for the perfect trilogy of movies.
Actually it's like a quintelogy or but anyway I digress.
So the acting overall was good.
Like my only issue is just the difference between Shazam and Billy.
That's my main acting issue but that's also not affecting the acting score too much for
me.
I can definitely agree with that.
Like it's just personally it feels off but it's not like affecting how I feel about the
movie whatsoever.
So where are you sitting with acting?
I'd say I'm at I'm gonna say a solid 85.
I might be I'm a few points higher I think I'm sitting like 88.
That's fair.
All right moving on over to character development.
Do you not think he had good growth in this?
No he did I'm just kidding.
I was gonna say like I feel like he had no growth in this than he did the first.
No no no he absolutely did.
This is actually one of the parts where the movie shined for me.
Yeah I agree.
It's just seeing Billy like they address it that he's holding on too tight to his family
while they're trying to go off and do his own thing and he's just trying so hard to
not lose what he's gained that it's starting to affect his relationships with everyone
and he's not wanting it to be that way but it is that way.
He literally is turning into a helicopter parent of his siblings.
Yeah and he's doing everything he can to to protect them like even going so far as
to sacrifice himself to save them from like this horrible hellish lifestyle that they
would they would have where all these mythical creatures are like around and attacking people
so I think there was a decent amount of growth there where I think he was a bit more like
hot-headed.
It seemed like he had some reservations about fighting and obviously like he had like backup
plans and and shit but I think it stood out the most when he went to go talk to Hespera
and be like hey this isn't cool and try to like talk her down and ultimately it ended
up working out in his favor but I think they did a really good job with that.
No I agree and I especially love the whole like as leading into the final battle how
he straight-up asks the wizard like you know take my powers I'm as you can see I'm not
worthy of this but the you know wizard reassures him that no I picked you for a reason and
so I love the the reassurance that he gets that I feel that that definitely boosts his
character for the final fight.
Yeah well I think I think that conversation with the wizard was was really insightful
to his to his his thinking because the wizard it wasn't like the wizard was like always
on team Billy.
True.
He was just saying like I was trying to find a worthy champion like I got stuck with you
but in the end he's just like the power like it just it happened this way it was like it
was destiny that this were to happen and you've proved that you're worthy of this power because
you chose to share it with people and he says when I was looking for a champion I was looking
for someone who was worthy of what me and my family had and no one was worthy enough
of that but you have gone and discovered like found something like worthy in of in and of
itself like it is something different from what I had with my family but it is still
worthy nonetheless and I thought that was just a great a great message.
No I absolutely agree.
Again I think the the my issue developed like relationship development wise I think the with
his foster mom I think that that could have been developed a little bit better than it
was it was still kind of heartwarming and sweet to see but yeah freaking I dug it I
there wasn't too much about this that I disliked.
No I absolutely agree really really good character growth Billy Batson slash Shazam.
Yeah I don't know about you but I'm sitting at like an 85 with this one.
Yeah I can match you there.
Alright next up we got effects which huge improvement from the first.
Yes I can definitely agree there were some I don't know maybe there were some spotty
effects for me like that I'm just like okay I can definitely tell that in the there's
some CGI elements that like weren't exactly worked out just I think it was like a little
with like the the it was more so at the beginning with the flying I think it was like when they
all fell when they all like fell into line when they all came together at the bridge
for some reason the way that some of them arrived it just seemed like the the CGI wasn't
complete like just it needed a little more tweaking.
I can feel you there like it definitely stood out in that scene but I think it was just
over like scenes like that were just overshadowed with how freaking brutal some of the shit
that was happening in this movie was.
That is fair.
Dude like you remember the freaking the Daughters of Atlas like throwing that dude head first
into the damn pillar.
Yeah like god damn that was great.
Holy shit.
That shit was great.
That was fantastic and then all the other like shit like when the the monsters start
coming out of their um their shells and like there's one dude who just straight up gets
impaled and thrown through a glass like a glass door.
Yeah.
Dude that was brutal.
Like that that shit looks so good and it was just like so jarring too because like oh man
like so freaking good.
Um my I have to say my standout effect though was the final battle between Shazam and Calypso
where he's like raising into the air holding the staff and it just like the staff's getting
electrocuted and it's just like him and darkness all you see is his glowing symbol and he's
just like rising into the air like that's that looked bitchin'.
That did yeah that was a great scene.
Yeah I was like that that scene is cooler than anything we saw in Black Adam.
Yeah oh I'm sorry to say I like this movie a lot more than Black Adam.
Oh yeah absolutely absolutely.
But yeah dude I'm a sucker for like a lightning reveal and so like just seeing him where it
wasn't like hiding him it was kind of like the that scene in um actually it wasn't even
in the freaking like Batman v Superman like remember the the trailer that came out where
he's like you see him floating in the in the clouds and then like thunder like a lightning
strike and then you just see him like his outline.
Oh yeah.
That's what I was thinking with this scene but it was so much cooler than that.
Yeah no it really was.
Like that is easily my favorite freaking scene.
Like that had so many moments where it was like you could have just like taken a screenshot
for an epic poster.
Dude straight up.
But I mean everything else looked really good.
The flying looked good.
I thought it was really cool to see the Shazam family fly in to try attempt and save that
bridge.
Yeah no like like I said I just had a problem with like some of the CGI work with that but
like overall it was a badass scene.
Yeah dude I didn't realize how cool it would it would be to see like six different heroes
like have the same power fly in to one scene.
Yeah like I that felt so cool to me.
Yeah it really did.
I freaking love their their transformations like freaking awesome.
I'm not sure if you caught this.
Do you remember when Shazam gets blasted by the dragon like the fire breath and he goes
crashing through all the cars and like the little crowd of people that he talks to like
for a quick moment.
Yes I do remember that scene.
So do you remember the dude in the red shirt.
Yeah wasn't he the guy that um god he was that was at the like Philly cheesesteak place
when he was about to meet with them.
Oh my god what's her name.
Oh no no no not not that guy the guy in the in the red shirt with like the the yellow.
Oh yeah I didn't know at first but yeah I saw like wasn't it like the original Shazam.
Yeah from the from the show and how old is that freaking show one sec.
I love when they do that kind of shit that's really cool.
I do too I love that they put him in the shirt too.
Yeah.
Oh from freaking 1974.
Holy shit.
Yeah so he so he played Billy Batson.
Really okay I love it that's awesome.
Yeah so he wasn't like Shazam but he I love like how he was the one I didn't he call him
Captain Marvel.
I think so.
Because I'm pretty sure that's what he went as as are in Shazam.
I don't think they could yeah a young boy able to transform into the superhero Captain
Marvel by calling out Shazam.
That is so cool.
That is really cool.
So I'm glad that they were able to like have that little tie in for him.
Agreed.
Which not not an effect or whatever but still really cool.
Yeah I loved the the burnt effect on Shazam's costume.
Yes that looks so badass.
Yeah it kind of made it feel like a cooler version of Black Adam.
Dude straight up straight up.
Like I just want to look at what Black Adam's like but yeah it it felt way freaking cooler.
So I dug the hell out of that.
Yeah there weren't very many effects that I disliked.
No same here man.
This might be one of my higher scores like I'm in the mid 90s.
I would say I'm at a solid 9.
Yeah I think I'll give it like a 94.
Fair absolutely fair.
Alright next up we got music.
Oh did like anything stand out to you?
There was a few songs that stood out to me.
Not anything that's like mind blowing or whatever but it like there was a decent amount of like
good songs.
For some reason I'm like drawing a blank on what all the...
Wow what all the songs were on the soundtrack.
I'm gonna look this up.
Yeah I'm trying to look it up.
Oh like when they were saving the the people on the bridge and they were playing the the
whole Now for Our Heroes song.
Yeah.
Dude freaking loved his reaction.
Freaking I loved Bailey's line.
That was yeah.
Did I like actually save you while you're listening to this song?
Like get out.
You know what I'd be the same way because like come on that's just too perfect.
Yeah they had a I don't know how like accurate this is but like they have that a little less
conversation I know that played during the credits.
That stuff seems like it was from the first but I mean the soundtrack was was really good.
It yeah it really was.
Yeah I don't think it was like an a nine by any means but I think it definitely deserves
an eight.
Yeah I can give you that.
Alright next up we got costumes and bro.
Huge step up from the first one.
Whoa hot damn was it a step up dude.
Like I'm I'm actually okay that they don't have the hoods anymore.
I like that it's just a cape.
Agreed absolutely agreed.
And it doesn't look like it actually looks like it conforms to their body now.
It doesn't look like it's just like padded muscle.
Yeah and dude the freaking I love one of the issues that I was like having when I saw all
of the promotional stuff for their new costumes was I was afraid that it wasn't going to like
the lightning bolt wasn't going to glow but the fact that it still glows it's just a lot
more subtle and it like it only really seems to like noticeably glow at night or in dark
space was.
Oh inspired choice.
Like I freaking loved that about all of their costumes.
So oh like freaking genius by the costume designers.
I love the new details of the suit.
Like it kind of adds a little bit more flair to the suit itself and not so just plain.
I agree because because the first one it was like it seriously looked like just a straight
up red spandex suit like here it kind of has some like different layers like different
fabric textures.
Like I like those little those silver tabs that are kind of like outlining the arms and
the chest legs and everything like that all feels really good.
The bracers are freaking amazing too.
Shit like I think like I just think overall like it looks so much freaking better than
the first.
Absolutely dude absolutely.
And yeah I think I think there still could have been a hood but I mean I'm not upset
that there's not.
And then the frickin like the buttons for like for their cape like those look super
cool too.
They did.
But I love the variations between them.
Like I liked how like Pedro's and Freddie's outfits kind of or like silver bracers instead
of gold.
Same thing with Eugene.
How Darla's is a little bit has like purple highlights on it.
And then Mary Marvel like she feels like or I get Mary sorry I called her by her comic
book name.
But yeah Mary like totally has a Wonder Woman vibe about her.
Yes she does.
So I freaking love their costumes dude.
Like there's nothing that I dislike about them.
Same yeah same here.
They are perfect.
If you can think of any if you can think of like a movie that just like automatically
is a thousand times better because the costumes are such a huge improvement from the first
one.
This is one that I would definitely rank high.
Oh yeah.
Looking at the comparison like someone has like a direct comparison like from the first
to the second where Mary's outfit was just straight up like really flowy dress.
And then all of theirs it was like just the basic color with gold like the same gold bracers
belt boots.
No one had any variation in their suit.
And so all of theirs like look a lot better.
I especially like that it's definitely like the darker color now.
There's nothing against like the first one but like I felt like Pedro's like little too
lime green.
Freddie's was a little too bright blue.
So I appreciate that definitely darker colors this time around.
Yeah the muted colors help out a lot.
Yep.
And I didn't realize how big of a difference like that Wonder Woman style skirt would make
for Mary.
Yeah same here.
Same here.
Like I mean the flowy dress is cool and all but you can't beat like the frickin armor
feeling skirt.
Yep agreed.
So I think wonderful decisions made all around.
I also kind of appreciate that they like this is going to sound weird but I do appreciate
that they covered Darla up a little bit more.
No I absolutely agree.
They gave her sleeves or kind of like they're short sleeves but they're still sleeves.
And then Mary's outfit like she got full like long sleeves like perfection.
Pure perfection.
Yeah.
So I mean I don't know about you I'm at a 10.
You know what I can give you that.
Hell yeah.
All right last up we got our own personal score.
So who do you want to go first?
I want to hear yours last so.
Okay.
I'll go first.
So overall I felt that this was a decent sequel.
I had a good time.
Was fun watching these characters again.
I have some problems with Zachary Levi's performance especially but you can definitely tell he
is still having a really good time playing this character.
The villains are good.
Okay I would say they're decent.
I had a good time with them.
So yeah overall it's like I said it's a decent sequel.
I still enjoyed the first one more.
So I personal.
Caleb might kill me for this.
I'm at a 75.
What?
All right.
Sorry man.
Oh you're good.
Yeah I can't say I'm that low but I had a really good time with this movie.
It is on par I feel with the original.
Like I had just as good of a time watching the first one as I did the second one.
Yes I think where we definitely agree is with the whole Zachary Levi like his performance
versus what Asher Angel brings to the character of Billy Batson.
They don't quite line up but that was it's consistent through the first movie as it is
through this one.
And I think it's on the same level.
I don't think he goes any further into the like the comedic kiddie route that that he
or then he does in the first.
So I do appreciate that he doesn't take it further.
I think he if anything I think he tried he attempts to dial it back but it doesn't.
It still is just a little too far in that that field.
So I think with with that some of the minor improvements that I would have made just to
get those real emotional impacts just to hit a little harder.
And like I said that was mostly referring to the relationship with his foster mom and
all that good stuff.
Maybe a little bit more comedic with the with that.
Like again it's just it's minor tweaks I think would have really helped this film out but
nothing that's going to just like just kill the score for me.
So with that I'm probably I'm probably a little higher in in my score than I was for the actually
now I think I'm about the same where I was with the first.
So I think I'm sitting at like an 85.
Okay that's fair.
So yeah but with that yeah that concludes this this breakdown.
So if going through the the categories real quick story is sitting at a 77 which is our
lowest score.
Like that's where this movie had the biggest issues.
Writing got bumped up a little bit sitting at an 83.
Acting bumped up again sitting at an 86.5.
The development was down just a little sitting at an 85.
Effects had a big jump sitting at a 92.
Music was pretty good.
They didn't have anything too like iconic but everything worked.
They did have a decent soundtrack because they did throw in some popular songs.
So that's sitting at an 8.
Costumes superhero movie like very few of these are ever going to not be a 10.
So we're sitting at a 10 with that and then our personal score averaged out to an 80.
So putting that through our algorithm the final Albrows letter grade for Shazam Fury
of the Gods has come out to a B plus.
Okay not bad.
Yeah not bad at all.
It is sitting at an 86.06 percent.
Okay.
Yeah so let me oh it like barely cracked B plus.
Oh shit.
That's funny.
It is literally our last B plus movie.
Damn.
Like out of let's see 53.
Yeah out of 50.
So it's the 53rd out of 53 B plus movies.
That's funny.
Yeah.
So it is it's actually perfectly tied with Mr. Peabody and Sherman.
Okay.
All right.
I can accept that.
Yeah.
Yeah I can.
It's funny.
So let's say yeah so where this is ranking like I said it's the bottom of our B plus.
So that puts it below Nightmare on Elm Street.
It is below Spider-Man Homecoming.
It's below Sing 2 and Captain Marvel which are tied at an 86.25.
Okay.
And then it's below Spoiler Alert which is an 86.37.
Son of a bitch.
What?
It ended up below Black Adam.
Damn it.
Okay.
I kick myself.
God damn it Jonathan.
Like we said okay so like we said at the beginning the percentages don't really mean shit.
It's the score.
It's like it's the grade that we we look for.
So in that sense Black Adam and Shazam Fury of the Gods scored the same.
Like they are they are both at a B plus but percentage wise it scored half a point higher.
So the so Shazam Fury of the Gods is sitting at an 86.06 where Black Adam is sitting at
an 86.5.
And I gotta say that is the most infuriating thing I've ever said today.
Yeah.
I would absolutely agree.
It's some bullshit.
Yeah.
Damn it.
Ah man.
So close.
So freaking close.
I mean just for shits and giggles I want to see where.
Okay so it's sitting above Shazam.
Really?
Yeah.
So we gave Shazam an 83.25 and that's sitting at a B.
Okay.
And then Shazam Fury of the Gods is 86.06 which is a B plus.
So it is a three point difference or yeah three percent difference between Shazam and
Fury of the Gods.
Okay.
So I mean I'm not too upset about that.
No I'm not either.
I will admit.
Yeah it's just the Black Adam that freaking kills me.
Yeah that pisses me off.
Oh damn it.
I'm firing myself.
But like we said it's just the final grade that matters so it's technically on the same
level as Black Adam but damn.
Seriously so close.
Do you think it should have been higher than Black Adam?
Oh yeah absolutely.
I want to see where.
The more I think about Black Adam the more I don't the more my score goes down.
Alright so we gave the story lower than Black Adam which I'll give it there.
I think I did like the overall story of Black Adam a little better than Shazam.
The writing we gave lower but barely.
Acting was lower.
Character development we went higher.
Mix we went higher.
Music was the same.
Costumes were the same.
And our personal score was higher surprisingly.
I kick myself for that.
Yeah so what put Black Adam like higher was the difference between the story.
Damn like I said we just like the story of Black Adam a little bit more.
Shazam of a bitch.
Or we were nicer to it I guess.
But still I mean I don't disagree with any of those scores so unfortunately.
I hate that.
I hate when there's like a movie that I'm just like no that's bullshit like we were
wrong and I go back to the scores and I'm just like damn it like we were spot on.
So yeah that's where it's sitting.
Alright well unless you got anything else you want to say about Shazam Fury of the Gods?
Other than go check it out and show it some love?
Like not really.
Alright but I would agree with Caleb.
Show it some love.
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It is going to be such a fun time.
It's going to be very interesting where we all sit at this movie because I've never seen
this movie in full yet.
Me and Caleb and hopefully DJ are going to have a little VR movie night with it which
I'm very excited for.
It's going to be very interesting how this movie ranks for everyone because a lot of
people would agree that this movie is hot garbage but we'll see where the three of us
rank it.
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