What's up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out
there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast we got nothing for 4k spotlight, but we do have some stuff to
talk about through the wall.
First time in a while we just got three trailers to talk about so it's going to be fun.
And then after that we'll be moving on to our headliner of the evening which will be
our breakdown of Dungeons and Dragons are Among Thieves.
So Caleb what do you say we get started?
I say let's do it.
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Alright so starting with Through the Wall, like I said we got three trailers to talk
about.
Starting with the first trailer for Blue Beetle, a superhero I know jack shit about.
I know a little bit about him and that's mostly due to me watching Young Justice on HBO.
Okay.
I want to say I saw the um, wasn't he in Smallville?
He was.
He was in Smallville for I think one episode.
I did see the suit and god this one is such a huge improvement over that one.
Well that's not fair.
That was a really a lower budget show.
I know I know but I'm just saying it's a very nice improvement.
Yeah very much so.
I really like the character of Jaime Reyes.
I think he's, I think it's going to be exciting to have a Hispanic based character on screen
and have him be like a major focus.
Not saying that like Namor wasn't but it'll be interesting to see like the Hispanic family
dynamics come into play.
I feel like that's something that I'll be able to relate to pretty heavily and I'm just
excited.
I love the actor that they got to play Jaime Reyes and yeah I love the character of Blue
Beetle as well.
It's kind of like DC's, kind of like DC's Spider-Man if I'm trying to make a direct
comparison but it looks really freaking good.
Yeah I would agree like I said I know nothing about the character but the suit looks awesome,
the cast looks great, looks like they're having a really good time especially George Lopez.
I can't believe that he's in this but I'm loving that.
Yeah I would say that I'm pretty much sold.
Probably just need at least one more trailer.
Yeah I have high hopes for this movie.
It'll be interesting to see whether this character moves on or makes the cut into James Gunn's
DC universe but I hope we get to see more.
What James Gunn's DC universe?
No not that, I just thought that since we haven't gotten an official movie in their
universe it's interesting that all the DC movies that are coming out right now it's
like okay who's going to make the cut?
Is this character going to?
It's just interesting.
Yeah it really is.
It's an interesting time to be a fan of DC.
This is true.
Well do you have anything else you want to say about Blue Beetle?
Not really, I think this gave us enough new stuff to look forward to.
I'm excited to see how the hero transformation in front of the family, I found that to be
hilarious instead of it being by himself or whatever.
That was freaking graphic a little bit, like god damn.
It was hilarious.
I mean it was funny but I'm like god damn.
I think they captured just the sheer panic of what, like the reality of that situation
would be so well and I loved it.
I freaking loved it and like I said I love seeing something new and seeing a hero kind
of not have a secret identity from his family is really cool.
That is cool, yeah.
Yeah then you don't get to deal with his bullshit like I'm just trying to protect you, like
all that crap.
It's going to be interesting to see how they handle this dynamic.
Yeah.
So I'm pumped.
Alright well moving on to the second trailer we got.
We got our second trailer for Barbie which this movie, I do not know how to feel about
this movie because it looks like a lot of fun.
The jokes in it are really good but I'm just like how are you going to make a Barbie movie
work?
I've heard that they're taking some inspiration from like the Truman Show and it does show
at the end of the trailer Barbie and Ken like about to enter the real world.
So it's going to be interesting to see how they do that or how they tell the story but
it looks like a lot of fun.
I freaking laughed my ass off when, I think it was like one of the first scenes of the
trailer when Barbie steps out of her heels and her feet are still raised.
I'm like that is freaking hilarious.
I love that attention to detail.
I have a feeling that a majority of what we saw with her being in like the Barbie world
is going to be not a huge part of this movie.
No don't say that.
I want to be in the Barbie world.
I know but I feel like she's going to travel to the real world pretty soon into the movie
and then just kind of be like cutting back and forth between whatever she's up to and
what whatever's going on in the Barbie world.
I don't know how to feel about that but you know what I hardly know jack shit about Barbie.
All I know is my sister had some when I was growing up.
That's about all I know about Barbie.
The only Barbie movie that I've actually, you know like those like direct to DVD ones,
the only one that I've ever seen of that, I think it's because my sister wanted to watch
it.
Actually wait no I'm lying.
Actually I was the one that wanted to watch it.
What?
Why?
I don't know man.
Because it looked interesting to me.
It was like the only Barbie movie as a kid that caught my attention and it was Barbie
and the Nutcracker.
I've heard decent things about that one but still you shouldn't have been here to watch
that.
Yeah, I don't know what else to say.
That's the only interactions I've had with Barbie as a child and as an adult.
I've had no interactions with Barbie as an adult.
But like I said, looks fun.
I'm very interested to see like what the real plot is of this movie but the cast look like
they're having a blast which I love to see.
Same.
Like a cast having a good time can save a lot of stuff in a movie.
I mean to a point.
Yeah, there are some movies that did not happen.
But is there anything you want to add to the Barbie movie trailer?
Not really.
I will say this.
I am actually a little bit more interested in the behind the scenes of this movie than
I am the actual movie because I want to see like just how crazy they went with the Barbie
world and like how much of it is practical because it all looked super real.
Yeah, no that's fair.
Although I'm still disappointed that I don't know.
I can't remember who said it but the Barbie world song isn't going to be in this movie.
That's so sad.
I'm not that upset about it.
Wow, I can't believe you.
How can you not love I'm a Barbie girl and a Barbie pretty easily?
Wow.
And I thought we were bros.
Guess not.
Yeah, I could say the same thing.
About what?
I said I thought we were bros.
Oh, okay.
So you're saying loving that song is not bro like.
Okay, I see how it is.
I give that song a hard time.
I just have a particular distaste for it because it was played so frequently when I was younger.
It just kind of like got seared in my brain and made me like really hate it.
I will admit I don't like the voices that they choose to sing for Barbie and Ken.
I would love it.
I would love to hear a version that is sung by Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling.
Yeah, but I want them to take it like super serious like not parody.
Yes.
I'd be down for that.
Dude, why didn't they think of this?
Come on.
They could turn this into the next La La Land.
Dude, no shit.
That'd be hilarious.
Oh, man.
Well apparently we can write better music for the Barbie movie.
So before we pat ourselves on the back end anymore, moving on to our final trailer, we
got Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse second trailer and holy shit.
This movie looks freaking incredible.
The animation already looks like a touch better than the first one and I didn't even think
that was possible.
I didn't either.
But bro, this movie looks freaking sick.
There are so many iconic lines in this movie in this just this trailer alone, like the
one that.
Shit, what is Spider-Man 2099?
Is it Miguel?
Miguel O'Hara.
I'm pretty sure it's him that says the line that says Spider-Man is a sacrifice.
You have to choose between saving one person and saving an entire universe or something.
Wasn't something like that?
Yeah.
OK.
I love the line of being Spider-Man is a sacrifice.
I love that line so much because he's not wrong.
I know.
Dude, that's freaking nuts.
Like the idea that this whole like spider society runs or is basically controlled by
Miguel O'Hara and he's only allows people that have like experienced a loss like Uncle
Ben.
Like, that's it's at least that's the vibe that I'm getting from this.
But that's a wild idea.
Yeah, no, it really is.
And let's not forget the freaking part where he says he tells Miles, no, you'll never
be a part of this and don't even get me started on the on the nerd from Earth was it night
1999 with Dr. Strange freaking throwing an into no way home.
Thank you.
Throwing in a no way home reference.
That was freaking awesome.
Dude, and I'm so glad that they've chosen like they finally like or I don't know if
this is like Sony's doing.
I'd like to see what what the behind the scenes looks like when it comes to labeling these
universes.
Dude, straight up.
Because this is like the first time that we've had an actual MCU reference to a universe
that's not Earth 616.
Yeah, that is very true.
So I'm super excited to at least get this debate figured out.
Because right now everyone's like, oh, it's 616.
But everyone's arguing like, well, it can't be because the Marvel comics are Earth 616.
And so like all these kind of fall into different universes and it is fantastic.
So I hope that Marvel just freaking runs with this because my biggest issue with freaking
multiverse of madness was them calling the MCU universe Earth 616.
Yeah, I want to see brought that up in our review, didn't you?
Yeah, I did.
Okay.
So I like I said, beyond pumped to see what what comes from this, if anything, like I
will I will forever now be calling I hope someone from Marvel comes out and says like,
yes, this is like the definitive number for the MCU.
So long s number though.
It is.
But it's also like the furthest departure from Earth 616.
To share.
So I like I said, I'm very excited.
I I would love to see some cameos from MCU properties.
I think that would be fantastic.
Even if even if it's just like a little blurred.
Like I'd be really excited.
That'd be super dope.
Yeah, so very excited.
But I mean, dude, shit like this thing like this trailer has so much like I got to say
my favorite bit.
I actually have two favorite bits, but I love when Miguel calls over like whatever intercom
system and he's like, stop Spider-Man and everyone's just like you.
And they're all like, just pointing at each other.
So so good.
And then the the one Spider-Man given therapy to the other one, like friggin love that bit.
And then and then my uncle Ben, let me guess he was dead.
Yeah, I agree with the parts that you said.
I especially really liked that towards the end of the trailer, Miles just just he straight
up just like, yeah, I know you guys are trying to tell me the Spider-Man that I'm supposed
to be, but I'm going to do it my own way.
And I really like that.
I do, too.
I wonder how.
I can't wait for this movie, dude.
Like this movie looks like it's going to be so friggin fun.
It really does.
And I don't know if it can beat the first one for if it can be better than the first
one.
But from these trailers, it damn looks like it just might be.
Yeah.
Like I said, I couldn't be more excited.
Like just being able to see Peter B. Parker come back, all the other like Spider-Man that
we're going to be able to see like, oh, friggin pumped.
And I can't wait to watch the friggin people that pick out every single detail from these
trailers.
OK, yeah.
Like I'm looking.
I see that's already done it.
Yeah, just like, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
I'm looking.
Just to see what people have picked out.
But I mean, it's like all different types of Spider-Man.
Like I'm looking at I'm trying to find pictures of like the big group shots.
Gotcha.
But I mean, we're going to see like hell, it friggin looks like the the PS4 Spider-Man
is in here.
And the classic comic book Spider-Man, the one from I forget, Ultimate Spider-Man, not
Ultimate Spider-Man.
There's like the Spider-Man show where he's in the future.
But there's like a bunch of different versions of Spider-Man in here.
I can't wait for people to point them out.
I don't know if I would either.
One I don't have the time and two, I don't think I have like the mental capacity to
do that kind of shit.
But kudos anyone does.
Yeah, my favorite resource for for breakdowns like that are his new rock stars.
I think I've shared a couple of videos of theirs with you.
Yes, they have.
Yeah, they they are like deep dive.
Like it's frickin nuts like they'll frickin call out even like little throwaway lines
from from movies to like when they get into like the nitty gritty.
Damn.
Like even even if it's something that we know, like even if it's something that we know,
like I think like even in their Deadpool 2 breakdown, when Deadpool is making that like
the sun's getting real low, big guy, like he says of course, like, or like he'll make
a comment being like, of course, this is a reference to H.E.
Voltron, where Black Widow says this to Hulk, blah, blah, blah.
And then he like moves on real quick.
Like he those obvious ones like he'll just make a quick note about, but I'll still call
them out.
And I'm like, perfect.
Okay, I can appreciate that.
Yeah.
So again, could not be more excited for this movie.
And just solely based off of how excited I am.
Because of how well the first one stuck with me.
If you had to rank these one to three excitement level.
Damn.
All right.
Unfortunately, I'm throwing Barbie at number three.
Blue Beetle and then Spider-Man.
Fair enough.
And that like that pains me to say, but I think I'm with you.
I need a little bit more Blue Beetle before I'm ready to make a call on whether I'm more
excited for Spider-Man.
Spider-Man's been on top of my list since it got announced.
So fair.
Number three, I'm actually going to give to Blue Beetle.
I'm sorry.
What?
Don't get me wrong.
Okay.
I'm excited for it.
It looks very interesting.
But it's just I don't know.
I don't know anything about the character.
So I feel like like you said, just need a little bit more.
But because of that and just I don't know what else to say with that.
I don't know.
Like it.
I'm sorry.
Barbie impressed me a little more.
So Barbie is number two for most anticipated.
Like I said, I don't know what to think about this movie, but it still looks like a blast
and I'm loving this cast so much.
So Barbie number two and then yeah, same as Caleb.
Spider-Man across Spider-Verse number one.
Movie trailer even better than the first trailer and I can't say enough good things about what
they've what they've shown us.
And I appreciate it.
Or at least it doesn't look like they're spoiling a lot, which I always appreciate movie trailers.
So yeah, number one, most definitely.
Yeah, easily.
I just hope that they have other big or just beautifully done scenes outside of what they've
shown because I'm afraid that like one of the highest moments of like conflict are going
to be when all the Spider-Man are chasing miles.
That's fair.
So I'm a little worried about that, but not so much that it affects my my excitement.
Well I would say that wraps up through the wall.
So where do you see we move this headliner?
I say let's do it.
Alright so for this week's headliner, we'll be breaking down Dungeons and Dragons on our
Monk Thieves.
Caleb, would you like to let all these fine folk know how we break down movies on this
podcast?
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects, music,
costumes, and then we give our own personal score at the very end.
All of these numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm which I fixed
last week.
And all of that gets added up and gives us a letter grade to compare this to other movies
of a similar grade, as well as a percentage which is not as important.
But it is fun to see where these movies rank within their categories or within their grade
levels.
So with that, if you have not seen Dungeons and Dragons on our Monk Thieves, Rose is about
to spoil the entire freaking movie for you.
So yeah, if you listen past this point and have not seen the movie and anything is spoiled
for you, it is your own fault.
I'm going to apologize right now if I mispronounce any words because I have never played Dungeons
and Dragons so yeah, just heads up.
So don't come after me if I mispronounce any of these big words.
I know, I'm pulling up the Wikipedia to help you out.
Thanks man.
Alright, prior to imprisonment, Bard Edgen Darvis spent years as a member of the Harpers
in order of Peacekeepers until a Red Wizard he had antagonized killed his wife.
Accompanied by barbarian Holga Kilgore, Edgen attempted to make a new life for himself and
his daughter Kira by turning to theft, teaming with amateur sorcerer Simon Amarr and rogue
Forge Fitzwilliam, along with the latter's mysterious acquaintance, oh my god, I'm not
even effing up a D&D word, wow how do I eff up that word, acquaintance Sophina.
While raiding a Harper stronghold, Edgen attempted to steal a tablet of resurrection to bring
his wife back to life but he and Holga were captured while their accomplices escaped.
After two years in Revel's end Arctic prison, the pair escaped to Neverwinter and learned
that Forge has become Lord there after its prior Lord became mysteriously incapacitated.
Forge has been taking care of Kira and has convinced her that Edgen's greed and selfishness
led to his arrest.
Sophina is revealed to be a Red Wizard and she and Forge deliberately orchestrated their
capture.
Sophina attempted to execute Edgen and Holga but they escape and decide to rob Forge's
vault and bring Kira home with them during the upcoming High Sun games at the stadium,
needing the tablet to prove their innocence.
The gladiatorial games had previously been banned but Forge reinstituted them, promising
that the games would bring in Taurus and money.
Edgen and Holga track down Simon to help and he suggests also recruiting Doric, a tiefling
druid whose forest community is fighting the forest logging ordered by Forge.
Doric infiltrates Forge's castle by animal shape shifting and finds the vault has magical
defenses from Mordenkainen, which Simon claims he lacks power to disable.
Simon proposes that a magic relic, the Helm of Disjunction, could disable them.
They travel to an old graveyard to ask Holga's ancestors where to find it.
Simon resurrects the dead with a talisman long enough for them to answer five questions.
The corpses reveal they gave the Helm to Zankzandar, a paladin who fled his country.
They, when the Red Wizards, turned his people into an undead army.
After forcing Edgen to swear to distribute any gained bounty to the people, he guides
the group through the Underdark to retrieve the Helm.
With the help of a teleportation staff obtained from Holga's halfling ex-husband, they find
the relic but are attacked by Thayan, assassins sent by Sophina.
Zankzandar fights off the assassins and helps the group escape from Thimber Chod, a pudgy
red dragon, before departing.
Simon has trouble mastering the Helm's power so they decide to use the staff to enter the
vault during the games.
Simon and Holga infiltrate the magically sealed door but find the room behind it empty except
for a magical trap.
The whole group is captured and forced to participate in the games but manages to escape.
Dork discovers that Forge has loaded the treasure onto a boat and is preparing to flee, so the
group steals the boat for themselves and rescues Kira from Forge, who threatened Kira's life.
As they escape, the group realize that Sophina organized the games to draw a massive crowd
and turn them into an undead army using the same curse that destroyed Thay.
The group returns and transports Forge's stolen riches out of the boat with the teleportation
staff and spreads them across the city, drawing the people out of the stadium before Sophina's
spell takes effect.
Outraged to her defeat, Sophina attacks the group but Simon is able to master his magic
and nullify Sophina's time stop spell, allowing Kira to use an invisibility pendant Edginn
and Holga gave her as a child to place an anti-magic bracelet on Sophina.
Sophina is subsequently killed when attacked by Doric in owlbear form and then crushed by
falling debris, but Holga is fatally injured in the battle.
Edginn uses the tablet to bring her back to life as he accepts that he wanted to bring
back his wife only for his own sake while Holga had become a true part of their family.
Doric signals openness to a relationship with Simon.
Restored the Old Lord of Neverwinter declares the team heroes of the realm and Forge is
sent to Revel's End.
Okay.
Oof.
That's the way to start.
Oof.
Okay.
This is something that I will say.
The story itself was fairly good.
I think them like kind of solely basing this story off of the source material was a really
good decision, but I think there were some things that they failed to take into account.
I will say this, as fun as it was, I think the quest for that helm was a bit wasted,
I'll say.
I mean fair, but at the time they didn't know that.
That is true.
Okay, I'll give you that.
I'll give you that.
Well actually, that's not necessarily true because Edgen knew.
Oh yeah, that's true.
God damn it.
Yeah, but isn't that like kind of in his care?
Like he was hopeful that it would still work out.
So like, I don't know, it was kind of in his character that he would still push on for
them to get it.
I don't know dude, that's a stretch for me.
I'm trying really hard to make you like this movie.
Well, I'm not saying I disliked it.
I actually had a really good time with this.
There were just some things that I felt were missing from this.
One of the things that I felt was missing, and I don't know if this is maybe an unpopular
opinion, but when I listen to other people playing Dungeons and Dragons, I do not like
the shows where they don't talk about what they roll.
Like when they just kind of talk and like go through the story, like their roles didn't
really happen or just kind of ignore their roles and just kind of like not ignore because
I mean they still affect the story or whatever, but it's when they just don't acknowledge
them.
Like when we as like the listeners don't get to hear what the scores or what the roles
are, or what they end up being, right?
So my issue is that we didn't get anything like that.
Like I think it would have been interesting.
And tell me if this is dumb.
Like I was thinking about this on my way home from seeing this.
Do you think that it would have been interesting to hear like an overarching narrator, right?
Like just kind of an all-knowing voice, like the voice of the universe, okay?
And talking about how like every decision made, every act, every blah blah blah is like
is up to fate.
It is a roll of the dice.
And so all these things that they're like that they do, you get to see like the cosmic
roll of the dice in a way.
So like let's say like right before they grab that council member that...
Was his name Jonathan or was it a different name?
Is like Jorn, Jonathan or something like that.
Okay.
Oh, Jarnathan.
J-A-R.
Oh, okay.
Jarnathan.
Okay.
I like that.
Yeah.
So...
I swear to God, if anyone starts calling me that...
So this is what I was thinking is like just as like a cosmic nod, right?
It's like they're...
Like you hear this cosmic voice like talking about the random roll of the dice.
And then Chris Pine is like talking through like doing his whole little spiel.
And then it kind of cuts to like...
Cuts to a dice.
And it's like while he's sharing the story and they're like waiting to vote on his release
or whatever, you see this roll of the dice.
And then it's like while it's in the middle of rolling, it cuts to...
And then Jarnathan comes in and then they're like, oh snap, we just grab him and jump out
the window.
Like they do all that.
And then it's like...
It's like an obvious different dice.
And it rolls some random ass number.
But like...
Because...
Hold on.
Do you understand the dice rolling system?
No.
Let's pretend that I know jack shit about Dungeons and Dragons.
Not one thing.
Okay.
Let's...
Let me...
Okay.
So, this is kind of like the basis for how Dungeons and Dragons works when it comes to
dice rolling.
Okay?
Okay.
So, obviously this is coming from someone that doesn't know any better, but if you are
going to...
Like any action that you have, like it's anything.
Like literally anything.
Like if you're shooting an arrow and you're trying to see if it hits its target, you roll
the dice.
Now...
Okay.
From...
So, if you...
There are two major rolls that you can get.
There's a natural one and a natural 20.
So that's rolling a 20 sided die and either rolling a one or a 20.
The one is called...
Like just...
It's like...
It's a nat one.
Nat ones are like the worst roll that you can possibly get.
So it's basically whatever you're trying to do, it fails.
Like without question.
So like...
And usually like if you roll a one, it usually causes harm to the team in some way, shape,
or form.
So...
I've seen stuff where it's been like, oh, I go to shoot my arrow at this bad guy.
Okay.
What do you roll?
I rolled a nat one.
Okay.
So your arrow completely misses the bad guy and hits your friend.
And then your friend takes so and so damage.
Like one of the Dungeons and Dragons podcasts I listened to, on the first freaking episode,
the dude is like charging into battle to fight a bear or something.
He rolls a nat one and he slips and he freaking cuts himself on his sword.
So a nat one is just like the worst thing that can happen.
It's just gonna jack you up.
And then from what I can tell, it's like lower...
It's kind of up to the Dungeon Master's discretion on what succeeds or what doesn't succeed.
Usually I think it's anything above a 10.
It just kind of varies on...
Like anything below a 10 will usually fail, but it's not gonna be like a critical fail.
Okay.
Where it's just like, okay, I'm gonna go try this app.
It doesn't work.
But it's not gonna jack you up, cutting yourself or taking some sort of damage or whatever.
Whereas getting a 10 or higher, again, it's up to the Dungeon Master's discretion.
Your thing will work.
And if you roll a natural 20, that is the best roll that you can get.
Whatever you're trying to do succeeds.
It's just an automatic success.
And sometimes they'll throw in like, oh, now you get to do something really badass.
I think one that I recall hearing is he shot the arrow at this target or something he was
trying to hit from really far away.
He needed to roll above a certain number.
He ended up rolling a natural 20.
And he's like, oh, okay, cool.
Well while these people are trying to stop your arrow, so they take all these rings and
throw them up, but your arrow just flies all the way through those rings and hits like
something over the top like that.
So that's kind of like the system.
It's like higher than 10 is usually a success, lower than 10 usually a fail.
Natural one is like a devastating fail.
And a natural 20 is like an outstanding success.
Interesting.
Again, do not quote me on that.
Like that is just what I've...
Well, not to say that.
I'm going to coach on it now.
I know.
But well, it's just this stuff.
So it's just from shows that I've seen.
And again, like there's other rules into that.
That's just like the dirty description.
Okay.
Just so you understand what I'm talking about.
I think it would have been interesting to have these cosmic dice that get rolled anytime
we get...
Not every time, because I think that it would get old after a while, but during like big
moments.
Like I think we need to see it at the beginning when they're trying to talk their way out
of prison versus like, I don't know, just like random ass things.
It's just unnecessary.
It's like when they're trying to talk themselves out of prison, we get to see these cosmic
dice roll.
We don't get to see one of them finish rolling because they're like, oh, change of plan.
We're grabbing this guy and jumping out the window.
And so like you see just like them roll a pretty successful roll.
So let, I don't know, like a 15 or something.
They escape, they get out of the way and all's good with the world.
But then you see like the dice like start to finish when it's like in regard to their
release from prison.
And it's like a nat 20 or something like that.
Or it's just like, oh yeah, like what they did, like you guys, like we approved you.
Something like that.
And then like when it came to Simon trying to put on the helmet, it should have just
been like a natural one.
Like again, I don't, I think it's something that I'd have to see done first to know if
it would work.
But that's something that an aspect of this movie, I would have appreciated that appreciated
them adding.
So it felt more like we were included on like what's about to happen.
That's okay.
I see where you're coming from.
Maybe it's just me because I've never played the game in my entire life.
And like I really haven't seen like anything about it.
Anything like that.
Like I kind of liked, like I look at your way being like with the whole like dice thing.
I really like that idea.
You know, like that like makes it truly feel like you're not playing Dungeons and Dragons.
Like you're not like playing it, wow.
You're not playing it at home, but because they're incorporating the dice, it truly feels
like it's like your own adventure.
You're still playing Dungeons and Dragons.
Is that kind of what you're going for?
Yeah, more or less.
Okay.
For me, maybe it's like you said, I really like that idea.
But maybe it's just because I've never played the games, I kind of like that it still feels
like a Dungeons and Dragons game because you know, like all the character types that they
have in it, all the monsters, everything.
But I like that it's simply just like a fantasy adventure movie.
There's no mention of like the dice or anything like that.
It feels like you're whisked into a Dungeons and Dragons adventure game, but it doesn't
necessarily feel like you're playing it, I guess.
I don't know if I'm like saying this right because like I said, I've never played it.
Literally no jack shit about this property.
So I liked that it honestly just felt like another fantasy adventure movie.
A good one at that though.
Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.
Like I know I'm giving it a hard time.
It's just from what I can tell for someone that is familiar with the rules of the game
to a certain point, I would have liked the inclusion of that a little bit more.
But that's not to disregard like how well the story was told.
I think that other than the helm or what was it called?
The helm of disjunction.
Other than that whole storyline and that just like ultimately not working, I think everything
else was told really well.
And this is kind of the same issue I had with like the like Finn's story in The Last Jedi.
It's just kind of like, okay, well, we went through all this trouble for nothing.
But I do understand where you're coming from where it's like, you know, it was an option.
It just didn't work.
Where I guess when you word it like that, it does that kind of does feel very Dungeons
and Dragons esque where not everything that happens is going to like contribute to the
like the ending.
So it's just it's interesting.
So no, I absolutely agree.
But yeah.
But yeah, I mean, the pacing was good.
I think it I felt like it maybe had a bit of a slow start and then just like slowly
started picking up.
I will definitely agree with that.
If anything, actually, for me, I think like the beginning was a little too abrupt for
me.
Like, I know, I keep like circling back to this, but since this is my first introduction
to this world, I literally know nothing.
Just the fact that, you know, we're introduced to these two characters and all of a sudden,
bam, it's a prison escape.
I'm like, OK, whoa.
Can I get to know these characters a little more before we like go into like that much
of a big, big story plot in this movie?
But I mean, you know, of course, as the movie goes along, gets another both both.
I'm still sorry, Chris Pine's name in this movie, you get to know Ed Ginn and Holger's
like backstory and story in general a lot more.
So like looking back at it, like it's a fine opening.
It's a good opening, especially.
It's just it was very abrupt for me being that being my first introduction into this
world.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
Yeah, it's just I think consistent pacing may have been the biggest issue with this
story.
Again, the story itself wasn't bad.
It's just it's just the pacing.
It just kind of went from slow to quick to back to like slow a bit.
And it just kind of kept jumping back and forth.
And it's like, OK, can we just fricking snap the ball on time?
I know a lot of people have said that, like, it definitely needed to be didn't need to
be as long as it was.
It definitely could have been cut down to even like two hours.
Would you agree with that?
I would absolutely agree with that.
I would, too.
I just don't know where.
Frickin.
So I know exactly where.
Oh, really?
Where?
I think they could have cut down the the frickin digging up the the corpses things a little
bit.
What?
OK, it was my favorite part.
It was funny, but I think they could have trimmed it just just a hair.
I'm sorry.
No.
Every single body that they talked to was frickin hilarious.
So I'm sorry.
I can't cut that scene down.
That was just too good.
The fact that that was the end credit scene or the post.
Yeah, like the like mid credit scene was frickin hilarious.
One guy that they never asked the last question to was still alive.
Dude, how funny would it have been if he just asked himself the question and then passed
out?
Dude, that'd be trippy as fuck.
It's like, oh, OK, so it can work that way, too.
Yeah, like he just didn't think about that.
He's just like, I wonder if I can like, can I ask myself a question and.
Damn, they should have done that.
That would have been really funny.
Oh, man, that would have been great.
But I.
I will say this, I.
I do.
I don't like that.
I feel like that needed to be cut down.
But if they were trying to save time, that's probably where I would have gone.
OK.
But from like the consumer's perspective, I really did enjoy that scene.
The first interaction was so frickin funny.
I thought that was a question.
Yes.
No, I thought it was just going to be one body.
I didn't think that they were going to bounce casket to casket.
That really actually caught me by surprise.
I thought it was just going to be one.
Well, I made the whole scene even better.
Yeah.
So I think with with me kind of knowing the difference between so like spells and enchantments
and just like little stuff like that with stuff with like trinkets.
Those usually you're able to use more than once.
So that's where I thought I'm like, OK, they're probably going to do this with more than just
one.
OK.
So.
Yeah.
Really, really frickin funny with that.
Dude, I found it funny that so I went and saw this with Christina and she actually she actually
has a knowledge of Dungeons and Dragons.
She played it with her previous boyfriend, but she expected me to not be bored out of
my mind, but like confused as foe, which I was.
And because of that, she thought I wasn't going to enjoy it at all and like actually
like fall asleep.
But I did not fall asleep once in this movie.
And I'm very proud of that because I was thoroughly entertained through the whole thing.
That's really good.
Like it's it's interesting that we have like damn, we should have gotten her on.
She like I had asked her and we had talked about it, but unfortunately she was really
busy today, so it didn't come to fruition.
Man that sucks.
I know.
It would have been interesting to have these different perspectives.
Someone who's like completely unfamiliar with the source material, someone who's like slightly
just kind of a fan of the source material and someone who's actually like played it.
Yeah.
But bro, like Dungeon, if I really want to get into Dungeons and Dragons, I'm like I
definitely at least want to play one game after this movie.
Like, but it has to be with like a like like with certain people, especially considering
that to be my first introduction.
Like I don't want someone that's going to like literally is so intense when it comes
to these games that they're just like you're doing this wrong.
You're doing that wrong.
No, that's no way that could happen.
Like I get I know that that's how it's supposed to be.
But it's like is my first time playing.
Can you cut me some slack here?
Yeah, I well from what I've heard, like if you're a new player, like a lot of people
like will take it easy on you.
But I'm with you.
But I I'm actually more interested in doing like a home a homebrew story.
Okay.
Like as like I've seen a lot of like that's like a majority of whatever the I listen to
is people coming up with their own stories using their own their own lore and everything
and like just using the Dungeons and Dragons game mechanics.
So like they they play everything like it's Dungeons and Dragons, but it's their own story,
which is like the major appeal to D&D.
Yeah, no, definitely.
So I want to do something like that.
It's just a finding the time to and then be like finding a group of some people to play
that.
Do any of your coworkers play D&D?
No, all my coworkers are like in their 50s and 60s.
Oh, damn it.
Yeah, I mean, there's a few people that are that are a little younger, but they're still
older than me.
They're like one of the youngest people that works where I work.
Dude, no shit.
Yeah, so it's I don't have a whole lot of people that I relate to on a personal level.
But anyway, like I wish I think I just need to branch out a bit more, but it's I don't
know.
Well, one day one day I'll like I'll figure it out once I get my shit together.
You're your shit together.
You OK?
Yeah, just no.
Like it's just crazy.
OK, it's just you sure you're OK.
Yeah, quit trying to bring up my shit.
OK, I'm sorry.
I'm just making sure as you as your best bud that you're doing OK.
I didn't mean to do it on the podcast, but I'm just making sure.
No, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
It's just OK.
Like I said, it's just attempting to find the time.
OK.
I hopefully it gets better as time goes on, but who knows?
Anyway, getting back into the story.
I guess I had very few problems with it.
I thought that the story was pretty exceptional.
Even though they did have the friggin last Jedi situation with the helm, I can honestly
let that go.
And that's mainly due to just what you said about it.
So I think I think I'm like in 84.
That's not bad.
Yeah, where are you at?
Um, I would say I'm just like like I'm going to go one point above you and 85.
Fair.
All righty.
Next up, we got writing.
This was pretty on the on point to write.
Yeah, if I actually think the writing was better than the story, I I will I'll give
you that.
Um, yeah, I could definitely give you that.
I think, yeah, the dialogue was on was was really well done.
Nothing felt like it was wasted.
Like it didn't feel like there was anything like unnecessary.
Like any everything that was said served a purpose.
Um, honestly, I felt every joke hit too.
At least for me it did.
I think there might have been one or two that didn't.
All right.
Yeah, it's hard for me to like what what what's what like could you list one that's like that
you didn't understand?
Ah, I swear there isn't there like, oh, god damn it.
Maybe I can't actually, because I swear that there was a joke that they made with like
the whole lead up to the whole like games thing.
Um, that yeah, just went straight over my head and the whole audience is laughing and
my sister is laughing.
I'm just like, I don't get it.
Damn, I had like three people in the theater with me and they were like the most unresponsive
group.
So I don't know if like, like I missed any.
I don't know, dude, like when I because we saw it Friday and it was a packed house.
It was awesome.
Damn.
Yeah, I went I like so I went today like seriously an hour before like I got back an hour before
we started recording.
Damn, man, you're cutting it close.
Yeah I know I was cutting it real close.
I was I was I was trying to go see it with Braille earlier than that, but we our sitter
never got back to us.
So I had to go by myself.
And by the time I was like ready, like by the time I was like at crunch time, I was
just like, hey, I need to go.
Yeah, it was it was too late to get a sitter to come.
Yeah, it is what it is.
It happens.
But yeah, like like I said, they were like super unresponsive and it was like with every
joke like there were some jokes that I absolutely got that I laughed at and no one else did.
And that made me feel like such a loser.
OK, OK, there's one that I can remember that I feel everyone in the audience laughed at
and I want to know if your audience did the part where God damn it, what's his?
Sorry to one sec.
Zank when he, you know, like leaves the group and walks away and how Pine is commenting
on how, you know, he walks in such a such a straight line.
You think he's going to go around the rock?
Nope, he's going over the rock.
Still so straight that like like that.
Does your audience laugh or was it very silent?
It was silent, but I laughed at that.
Yeah, I did.
Damn, your audience sucked.
Yeah, dude, they didn't laugh at shit.
Like even if you're not a D&D fan, that's a funny joke.
Yeah, like I don't think.
I don't know if that was like a D&D specific joke, though.
Yeah, no, it's not.
Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that.
But God, people suck.
Yeah, they do.
Like, I'd rather have people overreacting than underreacting.
Dude, same.
Because I feel like such like there's jokes that were made that I like laugh really hard
with.
Like, oh, with frickin Holga went back to her house or her ex-husband's house and it
was frickin tiny bread, bread, like Cooper.
I was laughing my ass off and no one else like they didn't make a peep.
What the hell?
Yeah, I'm like, did you guys already see this or like?
Some bullshit.
Like why do I feel like an asshole?
I know, it's like there were three people in front of me and then there was one person
behind me and like none of them laughed.
Like I think I heard the guy behind me like crunching on popcorn more than I heard him
laugh.
Yeah, it was frickin ridiculous.
So like I said, frickin made me feel self-conscious as hell when I was laughing.
But it was, but I think I agree with you that the writing is a little bit higher.
I think I'm just going to give it that one bonus point though above story.
I think it was sitting at like an 85.
I think I'm going to go two points ahead.
I'm going to go an 87.
Completely fair.
All right, moving on over to acting, we have Chris Pine who plays Edgen, Michelle Rodriguez
who plays Holga.
I'm going to say Reggie Jean-Page who plays Zenk, Justice Smith who plays Simon, Sophia
Lilis who plays Doric, Hugh Grant who plays Forge, and then Daisy Head who plays Sophina.
I would include Chloe Coleman, but she was kind of a small part of this movie.
Who was Chloe Coleman?
She played Kira.
Oh sorry.
Yeah.
So yeah, I think this is going to be an interesting top three.
Yes, I agree.
So what's your top three look like?
Can I do top four?
Yeah, you can do top four.
Okay.
Four I would give to Sophia Lily.
Loved her as Doric.
Is it Lily?
Or is it Lilis?
I swear it's Sophia Lily.
I think the S is silent.
Oh, all right.
I'm pretty sure.
Don't quote me on that.
Okay.
Yes, I give her number four.
Number three I'd give to Michelle Rodriguez who played Holga.
Loved her performance.
Great job.
Also, really, really good jokes and just the way that she reacted to the whole freaking
Bradley Cooper being...
Honestly, it was kind of like a Hobbit character in a way.
It was one of the best scenes in the whole movie and her acting is definitely a credit
to that.
Let me see.
So he actually has like a...
He's a halfling.
Halfling, okay.
All right.
He'll start with an H. That's funny.
Number two I would give to Justice Smith is Simon.
I freaking loved the whole like doesn't exactly...
Is he a wizard?
Is he a wizard or right?
He's just a wizard?
Sorcerer.
Sorry, God.
He's a sorcerer but doesn't exactly fully... hasn't fully grown into one yet.
He doesn't exactly always know what to do or how to use his powers.
So through the whole movie it was freaking hilarious.
Especially when we're first reintroduced to him.
That whole scene with the people getting mad that he's pulling their leg, ripping them
off.
Great, great scene.
And number one, yeah, definitely got to give to Chris Pine is Edgans.
You could tell that he was having such a fun time in this role and it really, really showed.
Absolutely loved his character.
I even thought that he had a really good character arc with his daughter.
I thought that was actually really, really good.
And his character arc with Holga was also really good.
So yeah, that would be...
Alright, so if I'm doing a top four, I'm actually putting Chris Pine at number four.
Oooh, okay.
And not because I didn't like him.
I thought he was really fun.
I just thought he got a little outshined.
I think making Chris Pine a bard character was just an inspired choice.
So yeah, I think I'm going to give him number four.
My number three, I think I'm going to give to Justice Smith, who played Simon.
I freaking love Justice Smith and everything that he's been in.
I take that back.
He was in Jurassic World.
I'll take that back.
Damn.
But I will say this.
It wasn't that great either.
Yeah, so I'll give him my number three just because I really enjoyed him.
I loved his growth through this and how well he portrayed that and just his goofy, non-confident
self and just kind of slowly getting to that point of being a good sorcerer.
My number three...
Oh damn.
I'll give it to Sophia Lilly, who played Doric.
I thought she was incredible throughout this whole thing.
She did kind of play it a little bit dry, but I think it worked for her character, like
who she was.
So I dug her.
Definitely Ruth.
Yeah.
And then my number one I'm going to give to Michelle Rodriguez.
I freaking...
She was hilarious, dude.
She was so great.
I'll be real.
The only thing that I've seen her in that...
I'm looking through her IMDB really quick, but the only thing that I've seen her in,
at least so far, is the Fast and the Furious movies.
But she was the best part of those movies.
I've never even seen any of the ones that she's in and I'll take your word for that
because of how good she is in this one.
She's incredible, dude.
She is such a good actress and such a freaking badass.
I loved everything that she did.
My favorite thing is when they're about to get executed and she's asking the dude how
he cleans his axe and she's just like, oh, you should be doing that monthly or weekly.
And then she freaking beats the shit out of him, takes his axe, and then the freaking
Edgans like, all right, let's get the hell out of here.
And he's like, but but but.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, the boiled linseed oil.
What the guy said he cleaned the axe with.
I loved her.
I loved how crazy she was.
And one of the things about barbarians, and this is like one thing that I do know about
this game for sure, barbarians are usually not very smart because they put all of their
stat points into strength and fighting and basically all the stuff that would help them
in battle.
So they don't really throw any.
Yeah, they don't really throw any points towards intelligence.
And so having her just kind of be a little ditzy was fantastic.
It definitely really worked.
Yeah, it was.
I feel it worked because you knew that she was like very capable.
And it like it didn't come off like she was she was dumb.
Like you knew that she still had like an intelligence about her, it just wasn't like book smart
stuff like how she keeps saying like throw magic at the problem.
Yeah.
Or just yeah, just random shit like that.
Like I think I think she pulled it off incredibly well, where it's just like, OK, there's the
barbarian in her showing.
So I freaking loved her performance in this.
And honestly, like if they do have a sequel, I want to see more of her.
I really hope that this may be successful because I definitely want to see more.
I do too.
I think that they can do great things with the Dungeons and Dragons world.
Like even if they don't like I'll say this, I'll be bummed out if they don't continue
this like this story.
But I wouldn't be upset if they like moved on from this cast and just kind of had like
just told Dungeons and Dragons stories with different cast.
As long as we got the same writers and directors, I'm perfectly fine with.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, yeah, that's what my top four looks like.
Very nice.
We definitely got to give the honorable mention to Reggie Jean-Page.
He was he I hated him at first and not not like the actor, like not saying he did a bad
job like he did a fantastic job at making me just feel like, oh, man, this dude's a
douche.
And he just like kept playing that way.
And I'm just like, oh, he was irritating, but it was like fun, too.
So like a character I love to hate.
And for no reason other than his attitude.
Fair.
What do you think of Hugh Grant's performance?
I didn't mind it.
It wasn't like outstanding to me or or anything, but it was good.
I agree.
Yeah.
So he was like part of like the main cast, I just wanted to get your opinion on him.
Yeah.
And then I definitely got to give a shout out to Daisy Head, who played Sophina.
She played an incredibly intimidating protagonist.
Oh, antagonist.
Straight up.
Yeah.
So freaking loved her.
So yeah.
Where are you sitting at with acting?
I would say that I'm at I'd say a solid 90.
I might be a tad lower than you.
I think I'm sitting at like an 88.
Fair enough.
All right.
Next up, we got character development, which I don't know about you, but I did based off
of Edgen.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
So that that's Chris Pine's character.
I think he had some like really decent growth through this.
No, dude, I absolutely agree, especially the sacrifice that he makes at the well, I guess
not a sacrifice, but the decision that he makes at the ending to instead of bringing
his wife back, he brings back Holga, brings Holga back not only for his daughter, but
for him, him realizing that, you know, it actually that this is what my wife would have
wanted.
So I think that was such a great carry.
The growth that we get up until that point is so, so good to where when we get to that
scene at the ending, it makes complete sense.
It's not out of character.
Yeah, it really like strikes an emotional punch because I think he I think he finally
like took that moment to realize that his daughter didn't know her mother.
And so in her eyes, I think she she are he finally saw that she views her as kind of
that mother figure where it's like it's obviously I don't think she views her like a mother,
but just that that strong feminine figure in her life.
And I think it took a lot for for Edgyn to realize that what he was doing was or what
he was trying to do with resurrecting his wife was more of a selfish act than what he
thought was like for the greater good of his daughter.
So I thought that was a really interesting story.
And I wish we would have dived into it just a little bit more.
But I think I think it worked out like amazingly well.
I had close to no issues with with his arc.
I have definitely like a high point in this.
Like this might be one of my higher categories.
But I think I'm going to put I mean, it's not much higher.
I'm like at an eighty nine.
I don't match on that.
All right.
Next up, we got effects.
And bro, these effects were pretty fricking good.
They've dude, I got I know it's played off as a joke and everything, but I got a fricking
nightmare feel when the whole like spell that they were doing for Chris Pratt's not Chris
Pratt.
Wow.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
Chris Pratt.
Oh, my God.
Chris Pines, Edgen to be in two places at once.
But then the spell starts going haywire and his fricking like face starts morphing and
he starts getting like they fricking like it looked awesome.
Like the effects look super cool.
But oh, my God, was that shit nightmare feel when his pupils got that fricking big?
Like, oh, hell no.
Dude, it was horrifying.
Dude, this movie fricking hits you with a couple fricking solid jump scares.
Dude, yeah, seriously.
Like the fricking big one that I'm thinking of is when Frank is a.
Sofina when she like when they're like so it's when Forge is showing off the the vault
and everything and Sofina like stops and she's like there's a wild like changeling among
us and then she just screams and points like that scared the hell out of me.
Same here, man.
Same here.
And then I'm trying to think of like some other shit that like scared me via the fricking
Jaguar looking things like those were scary, too.
Oh, yeah.
And I know I saw it in the damn commercials, but that damn like the box or the the the
thing that looked like a chest.
Oh, yeah, I do.
And that fricking mouth just popped out.
Yeah, that scared the shit out of me.
Yeah, it's just like good hell.
Like that has no business being that fricking scary.
Yeah, dude, straight up.
Yeah, there's a bunch of shit like that.
Like it's just like completely random, like totally took me off guard.
Like when they resurrected that first guy at the like the battle, like the cemetery,
and it like took a second for him to be revived.
Like that was fricking terrifying.
What do you think?
How did the dragon look in your opinion?
Oh, the fricking pudgy dragon.
Yeah, I thought he looked really good.
No, like honestly, I thought that he was on the level of how how some smough looked and
the hobbit.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to judge like the real how realistic something looks with when
it comes to like a dragon and its movement, especially a fat dragon.
Fair but I think they did amazingly well, like just keeping it on the same level as
everything else within the scene where it didn't feel like overly done, but didn't feel
like poor quality either.
Like this was just like a perfect, perfect level.
I will say another effect that I really thought looked good was when they're using the whole
spell to where you can teleport from one area to another if you can see it.
They're doing that with being able to transport into the room with you know, like all the
treasures and everything.
And they're like on the stagecoach and they're like trying to make it towards like attached
to the they attach it to the picture and they're trying to transport it into that room.
Just everything that they have to go through, especially on the stagecoach the way that
like it.
I thought it was going to look campy, but they actually made it look really good to
where they're trying to reach each other through.
I don't even know how to explain it.
When you're reaching for someone through like a completely different into a different like
not dimension, but like you're reaching for someone through a portal.
That's what I'm looking for.
I don't know why it took me that long to get that.
But like yeah, the whole scene where they're, you know, like having to reach each other
through the portal, just making it work.
Like I thought that was going to like I was afraid that was going to look bad.
I'm just like, oh yeah, no, I can.
Like yeah, of course that's, you know, like fantasy and everything that that's impossible
to happen in, you know, our our world.
But they made it look really realistic in this and I got to give them applause for that.
Dude, absolutely, like I I feel like I've seen movies that have portals, like obviously
not to like that degree, but they they come off looking super goofy, but they did a really
solid job with these portals.
So I absolutely agree with you on that.
Those portals were the bomb.
And again, like I freaking loved the just like that Dungeons and Dragons style, like,
oh, the painting fell.
So they like it just completely effed up their plan.
I'd be so freaking pissed if that happened.
Oh my gosh, dude, because I was thinking I'm like, that's a freaking solid plan.
Yeah.
Like that, that's like super ingenious.
And then when that painting fell, it's just like, oh, damn it.
Son of a bitch.
I will say I do feel like there is a bit of a plot hole there because the.
I do feel like they probably could have reached their hand in and lifted the frame up because
the frame stuck out more than the painting.
Oh, that's a good point.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's a very minor gripe and not anything that I'm going to dock for.
I just wanted to bring it up.
Yeah, they could have still gotten enough enough force to push it up.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, I agree.
Oh, man.
But I.
As much as I love the portal, though, I do feel it did kind of serve as a like a major
plot device when it was just kind of something that she already when that whole got already
had on hand.
OK.
So it just felt a little cheap, but I think I sufficiently docked for that in writing.
I just wanted to bring that point up to but major effects that.
Oh, I got to say, frickin Doric, whenever she was shape shifting.
Like her.
Like anytime she changed forms looked really frickin good.
Yeah.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
Other stuff.
Oh, when she was the last one when she was beating the shit out of Sofina as the owl
bear.
Dude, that was brutal.
Yeah, that was fantastic.
Dude, like just when I thought like when she initially beat her up, I was just like, oh,
damn, like that was a little rough.
And then she like like here, Sofina just beats the shit out for more, throws her against
the wall and then just like she fall like hits this corner falls down and then just
a shit rocks come crusher.
Just like, good Lord.
Can you say overkill?
Yeah, dude, straight up.
So I frickin love that.
So man, the effects were rock solid, dude.
They really were.
Where are you sitting that?
I think I'm actually going to go a touch above my acting and I'm going to go a 90.
I'm actually going to be a little bit nicer than you.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to go up to 93.
All right, next up, we got music.
I will say the whole song that I don't know if it was songs or if it was different songs
that, oh my God, I keep forgetting these names, sorry, that Edgen and Holga when they're leaving
her place are singing and then also that they're singing together is unfortunately she's dying,
but then of course, you know, she gets resurrected.
Like I loved that.
That was great.
But was it, do you know, was it the same song?
Was he playing the same song when he was trying to distract the guards?
Or was that a different song?
I think it was a different song.
Okay.
So yeah, all the songs that, I'm going to remember this eventually, Edgen sung as a
bard, fantastic.
Oh yeah.
They were really good.
I think the only thing that was missing was just one really catchy song.
That's fair.
This would have bumped it up significantly for me.
I mean, the music surrounding everything, just like the score, really good though.
It definitely, it was intense.
It added to the intensity when it needed to and then of course it added to the emotional
moments so very well done soundtrack.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I think with that and then like you said, the songs that Chris Pine was singing,
I think I'm somewhere around an eight.
Definitely agree.
All right.
Next up we got costumes.
You got to say this.
I really appreciate the practical costumes that they did.
Same here.
Freaking ingenious.
I will say, and this isn't really an issue with the movie itself.
I wish that there was a little bit more variety in the characters in terms of what their species
were.
I think we saw some really cool looking characters.
I wish we would have gotten a little bit more.
I would have really liked to see more like an orcish barbarian.
If you could have freaking orked up Michelle Rodriguez a little bit.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It would just been a wider variety.
I feel we got to see a lot of humanoid characters.
We got to see creatures every once in a while, but I think overall I would have liked to
see more of the creature.
But again, that's not.
I would definitely agree.
Yeah.
Nothing I'm going to dock for.
It's just a point that I wanted.
No, that's fair.
But I mean, the costumes themselves, not hating.
No, even though I've never played the game ever, honestly, I still really appreciated
the costumes.
The world that they're setting up, honestly, every single costume for every character made
sense.
Yeah.
So, I mean, they all looked good.
And I, like I said, got to give freaking props to the practical costumes.
Okay.
I'm at like a pretty sturdy nine and I could be talked up to a ten.
I don't know what else I could say to talk up to a ten because I'm also at a sturdy nine.
So I could convince myself to talk me up to a ten.
You know what?
Fair enough.
All right.
Last up, we got our own personal score.
You want to take this one first?
I would love to.
So overall, me being a person that has not only ever played Dungeons and Dragons, but
literally knows nothing about the whole, the franchise, the lore, nothing.
Like I literally went into this movie with zero percent knowledge in anything deep.
And I walked out having a little bit more knowledge.
I will say I was confused during the movie, but I feel for newcomers, they actually do
a really good job of moving the plot forward and making sure that like you have little
to no knowledge with this franchise or with this property.
You could still follow along, which I really, really appreciated.
And it's just a really fun fantasy adventure movie.
Really great, great characters, great effects.
Just, yeah, I just had a really good time.
That's the biggest positive that I can say about this movie.
I just had a great time.
It's a fun fantasy movie and that's really what I wanted from this.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to go on 88.
Not bad.
Oh yeah.
I, I, I had a really good time with this movie.
I will say my expectations for this were a little bit higher than they probably should
have been when I went in.
So when I came out, it was, it felt like I was a little disappointed, but kind of talking
this through a bit more, it just kind of made me realize that maybe my expectations for
it were a little too high and just it's completely unfair.
And that's why I really liked this, our, our system, cause it kind of forces me to look
at a movie a little bit more realistically and not through such like a fan boy eyes and
which the fan boy in me would have given this a little bit lower, which I mean, I am a little
bit lower than Rose, but not as low as I initially thought that I was going to be.
Like when I came out of this movie, I was sitting around like a 78, 79 in terms of like
my personal score.
Yeah.
Like it's not, not horrible, but I mean, it wasn't great either.
So I mean, coming out of it and just kind of managing my expectations.
I do see this being one that I go back and, and explore again.
Cause it was fun.
It was a lot of fun.
Like in the more that I learned about Dungeons and Dragons, like I'll love going back and
exposing what little Easter eggs I missed and, and whatnot, but I think overall it was
a really good time.
Like Rose said, a really good fantasy adventure and hopefully we get more out of this.
So I think I'm going to be at an 84.
Not bad at all.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Anyway, uh, just real quick and it's because I just remembered.
So before we get into what each of the categories scored, um, we did have a question of the
week that we posted.
Oh yeah.
Shit.
Yeah.
So we got a lot of comments on this one and I am going to ignore the ones that didn't
answer the question.
The movie recommendation ones?
Yes.
Which we got a lot of and that does not mean that we don't care about your responses.
We do appreciate you guys recommending movies.
Yes.
And we will be absolutely getting to a lot of these or as many as we, we can.
Um, but with the question of the week, I want to give special shout outs to the people that
actually answer the question.
Uh, so with that, the question that we posted was what Dungeons and Dragons spell would
you like to have in the real world?
So the, so the first response that we got related to the question comes from Nick at
walmart underscore Nedgie, uh, who says I would love to have wish.
And so I luckily he like responded to what I asked and I was like, for those of us unfamiliar
with D and D, what does wish do?
Um, he says it's a wish that you are a spell that you could wish for anything like even
to become a God, but you have to end someone to do it.
Damn.
So it sounds like, I'm just trying to see what it does.
Yeah.
So it's like a super high, high ranking spell.
And I don't see anything that says that it costs someone their life.
But I mean, if that's again, he'd probably know better, but I mean, that's a freaking
brutal spell.
Like goddamn, um, like a soul for soul scenario over here.
Yeah.
A little bit.
Uh, let's see.
We got another response from Kira Yoshi cage.
It says Lou or at Lumer Illuminati, uh, who also said wish.
All right.
So yeah.
Uh, wish is just apparently something you do to, uh, get anything like you can wish
for anything, which I guess is a useful spell, but there are, what they both said is that
there are rules to having, uh, how you can use it.
And from, so I looked it up real quick and apparently like the greater the thing you're
wishing for the more like issues that you'll have granting it.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So it's just like, it kind of like the, a soul for a soul situation where it's just
whatever level of thing you're asking for, that's going to be the like equal cost to
make it happen, which is an interesting concept too.
Yeah, it really is.
Um, all right, let's see.
Yep.
We did get one from an at, it was all yellow.
Uh, who said, I don't play D and D, but probably something like fire.
So just like a fire spell.
Oh yeah.
And okay, here's one.
We got one from a Bryce van who Rick who says boost it or at boosted underscore seat who
said tiny servant.
The spell is really useless, but would be just fun in the real world.
I'm going to look up what tiny servant is.
All right.
So here, here's what it does.
You touch one tiny non-magical object that isn't attached to another object or a surface
and isn't being carried by another creature.
The target animates and sprouts little arms and legs becoming a creature under your control
until the spell ends or the creature drops to zero hit points.
That sounds awesome.
Yeah, that really does.
Dude, that would be the shit.
Yeah, especially in the real world.
I'd freaking make all my toys come to life.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the higher this or the higher level you are, the more things you can animate.
Oh, dude, I love it.
That's awesome.
That is amazing.
And I will say, so I don't know if this is like a home brew spell or what there is a
Dungeons and Dragons game that I listen to where they have a spell called unseen servant
where it's this invisible entity that will do whatever you command it to do, but it's
100% invisible.
Yeah, it doesn't make noise.
Like it doesn't do anything.
It's just straight up invisible, but will do whatever you ask it to.
And the way that the players used it was they used it to straight up bully a boss character
because they got the unseen servant to walk behind the bad guy and push him over.
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Oh man.
So yeah, that is all the responses in relation to the question we asked.
And again, we just want to thank everyone that did comment on that.
We will be getting to as many of these suggestions as we can.
We are only human.
Yeah.
What he said.
Yeah, but we'll make it happen.
Anyway, getting back into so going off that and getting back into our breakdown.
So story story ended up averaging out to an 84.5.
Then writing jumped up a couple points sitting at an 86 acting jumped up even a little bit
more sitting at an 89 character development on the exact same level sitting at an 89.
The effects had a significant jump sitting at a 92 music sitting down at an eight out
of 10 costumes are nine out of 10 and our personal score averaged out to an 86.
So with that the final all bros letter grade for Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves
has come out to a B plus.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, that's scored a lot higher than I thought it was going to.
But I think rightfully so.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, so it is sitting at.
Oh shit, just lost it.
Where'd it go?
Okay, there it is.
So it is sitting at an 87.68%.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah, so it's definitely one of our higher ones.
So out of so this is a B plus movie.
There are 54 B plus movies and this one ranked number 30.
So it's like dead center.
Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
So like I said sitting at an 87.68 that puts it below Rhea and the last dragon which is
sitting at an 87.81.
It's also below the prom which is at an 88.12.
It's below the invisible man which is at an 88.23.
It's below glass onion which is at an 88.25.
And then finally it is below how to train your dragon 2 which is at an 88.37.
Yeah, going the opposite direction it ended up above parasite which is at an 87.59.
Damn.
Yeah, right?
It's above how to train your dragon which is at an 87.5 as well as the black phone which
is also at an 87.5.
Wow.
Yeah, it's above freaky which is at an 87.37.
And then finally it is above detective Pikachu which is at an 87.31.
Okay, yeah it's not bad at all.
Definitely not bad.
Just for shits and giggles, so with Dungeons & Dragons being at an 87.68, to get one percentage
away you have to go down 15 movies.
Holy shit.
Yeah, and it's being like one percentage away it's frozen 2.
So frozen 2 is below this and then going one percentage above you only go seven above for
it to be a full percentage away and that's sitting at bros.
Okay wow.
So I don't know about you but I really like where this ended up.
No, I do too.
No, I think it's a really good placement for it.
So yeah.
Sweet.
Sweet, well, unless you have anything else that you want to add about this movie or this
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Nope, that I do not.
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I was gonna I was gonna I was gonna say your line.
I'm on that one.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
Well, I was gonna say your line, but I'm like, no, I want to say my line.
Did you forget what your line was?
I did actually.
So bye deuces.