What is up, bros, and welcome to the All Bros
Podcast. I'm Jonathan. And I'm Caleb. And we're
a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys
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Bros. This week on the podcast, I think we're
going to be playing a couple of games, a couple
of rounds. Hell yeah. Sweet. And then after that,
we'll be jumping into our headliner of the evening.
Yeah. No, I had to second guess myself. I'm like,
okay, it's Headliner, not Breakdown. It's Headliner,
not Breakdown. So many years later, I still second
guess myself with that. I mean, well, the Breakdown
part is accurate. It's main event. That's what,
my bad. Yeah, that's what it is. uh anyway so
our headliner of the evening will be our uh breakdown
of uh tron aries the hell yeah the biggest i
think it's the biggest box office blunder of
the year that is app oh spoilers like i think
it lost more money than snow white i didn't think
that was possible what a load of shit I would
agree, because Tron Ares is actually watchable.
It's more than watchable. Because literally the
only good part about Snow White is the freaking
scenes with the dwarves. That's it. Oh, man.
I still haven't seen that. You don't really need
to, man. Good. Don't give it your attention.
Good. Don't give it your attention. Anyway, what
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our bio. All right, so like I said, we're going
to be playing a couple rounds of our three, no,
two favorite games. I forgot the names of them.
Caleb, can you remind me what those are? Yeah,
so we got reel to reel and head to head. That's
what they are. So let's play some games. All
right. Let's start off with reel to reel. Let's
go. All right, who's... Who's going first? I'll
go first. Okay. So, oh, so for those of you that
don't know, we are first playing real to real.
Real to real is we are given an actor and a movie
that they star in. And then the next person has
to list someone else that was in that movie and
then something that that person was in. And we
kind of keep going back and forth until we can't
go anymore. Yep. So you are starting off with
Samuel L. Jackson Pulp Fiction. Okay. John Travolta.
Hairspray. Bitch. Okay, who else? Come on, man.
That cast is stacked. Okay. Okay. Amanda Bynes?
Was she in Hairspray? Yeah, she was. Amanda Bynes,
She's the Man. I knew you were going to say that
one. God damn it. Was Channing Tatum in She's
the Man? Yes. Thank God. Thank you. Channing
Tatum, 21 Jump Street. Okay. I'll throw you a
curveball. Ice Cube, are we there yet? Oh, you
son of a bitch. I swear that the mom's name is
Nia Long, but I can't think of anything else
she's in. There's got to be another freaking
big actor or actress that's in that movie. Shit,
man. I think you got me. Yeah? Yeah. Freaking
A. That was good. Dude, I love the addition of
the scores. I love this. This is awesome. Yeah,
I thought it'd be... Actually, let me see if
this looks a little bit better. Oh, yeah. That
looks way better. Alright, let me bring it out
a little bit more. A little bit more. Doing this
shit on the spot. Okay, that's good enough. Love
it. That looks so good. All right. All right,
my turn. Keira Knightley, Pirates of the Caribbean,
The Curse of the Black Pearl. Okay, let's go.
Orlando Bloom, Gran Turismo. Okay. David Harbour,
Thunderbolts. Gosh, you know what I'd choose.
Seriously. Let's go. Florence Pugh, Little Women.
Okay. Emma Watson. Beauty and the Beast. Oh,
shit. Okay. Emma Thompson. Oh, shit. What's that?
Late Night. Wait. It's that one that we broke
this movie down. Oh, yeah. Okay. Mindy Kaling,
Inside Out. Can a voice work, too? Yeah, that
works. Okay. Okay. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Amy Poehler,
Sisters. Okay. Tina Fey. Mean Girls. Bastard.
Okay. Lindsay Lohan. Herbie Fully Loaded. You
suck, dude. I haven't watched that movie since
I was a kid. Yeah, man, dude. You got me. I got
nothing. I don't know anybody else in that movie
besides her. Yeah, I'll be real. I don't either.
I would have been absolutely screwed. That was
a good one. Nice. Oh, shit. All right. Your turn.
Okay, let's go. Michael B. Jordan Creed. Oh,
duh. Sylvester Stallone, The Expendables. Okay.
Jason Statham. Hobbs and Shaw. Okay. Dwayne Johnson.
Red One. Okay. J .K. Simmons, Whiplash. Miles
Teller. Get a job. Oh, shit. Is that Anna Kendrick?
Yep. Oh, thank God. Anna Kendrick. If it wasn't
Anna Kendrick, I would have been done. Rebel
Wilson. Cats. Okay. James Corden. Peter Rabbit.
Daisy Ridley. Star Wars The Force Awakens. All
right. Adam Driver. Lucky Logan. I think it's
Daniel Craig. Okay. Okay. Daniel Craig. Knives
out. Balls. Let's go. Chris Evans. Lightyear.
Kiki Palmer. Oh. what happened there i i don't
know we're still good yeah we're good okay okay
so yeah so kiki palmer um akila and the b bastard
oh that was the one i was hoping you didn't do
i'll do i was gonna do one of those days but
i didn't think that you'd see that so i thought
that this one would be easier for you oh god
I have his face. I have his face. I don't have
his name. Ah, shit. Am I given? Yeah. Yeah. What's
his name? Lawrence Fishburne. God damn it. damn
i i i was i was sitting there i was like it's
fish something fish something damn it oh god
i would i i knew i was like i i just i i i couldn't
remember his name that's what was getting me
i was just like okay because i i was thinking
through like all kiki palmer shit and i was like
all right i think like i'm like if he chooses
get out i got daniel kalula locked Like, and
then I was like, oh, like, if he chooses, like,
Akilah the bee, I might be screwed. And then
the panic set in and I completely, psh, his name.
Shit. I've never seen Get Out, so I didn't even
know she was in that. No, not Get Out. Up? No.
What was the alien movie that she was in with
Daniel Kaluuya? The Jordan Peele one. Oh, um,
oh, shit. Um, was it Nope? oh yeah yeah yeah
okay yeah that one all right so that's three
rounds of reel to reel let's go over to head
to head all right all right so head to head uh
for those of you that don't know uh is a different
game we are given a category of movie and we
go back and forth uh trying to find movies that
fulfill that category or that could be included
in that category and uh and then we just kind
of go back to four back and forth uh so for example
movies where someone runs dramatically in the
rain like that that could be a category so we
just have to think of movies where that happens
and then we just go back and forth until it we
can't anymore yeah all right And I'll start off
with this. Movies that take place over the course
of a single day. Groundhog Day. Yeah. There you
go. I'm pretty sure it's just one day. Alexander
and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day.
I'll give you that one. Oh, shit. Ooh, this is
kind of a deeper cut. It's this movie with...
Oh, I forget his name. It's called Boss Level,
but it's another Groundhog's Day situation. Okay.
So if it starts the night of a certain day and
then carries into another day, does that not
count? I think that that can count. Maybe a single
day could be a 24 -hour period. Okay. Halloween
Kills. 1917. Ooh, good one. United 93. Okay.
Let's go live, die, repeat. Okay. That's Edge
of Tomorrow, right? Yeah, Edge of Tomorrow. Okay.
Shit. Oh, man, I think you've got me. Really?
Yeah, I can't think of any others. Dude, there's
a lot of movies that only take place over a single
day. I can't believe I can't think of any of
them right now. Shit, man. Dude, I'm drawing
a blank. I got nothing. Yeah, man. I got nothing.
Alright. I'll take it. What was going to be your
next one? I'm curious. My next one was going
to be Better Watch Out. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's
a good one. Then I was just going to go down
that rabbit hole, like other horror movies that
take place over one. I was going to go Hocus
Pocus. Does Krampus take place over one day?
I want to say yes. Son of a bitch. Because I
think it's the day that their family comes into
town. That's what I thought. And then, yeah,
just like it weaves its way into like the early
morning hours of the next day. Yeah. So technically
a 24 hour period. Okay. Okay. All right. Your
category is movies where a phone call changes
everything. That's so specific. Yeah. Seriously.
Why am I trying to blink? Yeah. Feel free to
veto if you want. Yeah, I'm going to veto because
I can literally only think of one movie. It's
one more than I had. Movies featuring an iconic
villain laugh. Okay. Excuse me. Did he start
laughing? Child's Play. Not the one I thought
you were going to kick it off with. The Dark
Knight. Spider -Man. Ooh, that's a good one.
The Batman. I'm just going to go through all
the freaking... Joker. Oh, and just for those
of you that know, the only rule we have with
this is we don't do, like, franchises. Like,
the... Franchise movies. So, like, I'm able to
get away with, like, doing, like, the Christopher
Nolan Batman and then Tim Burton Batman. Like,
those are separate from each other. Gosh, this
is going to be cheap. Batman the Killing Joke.
Okay. It Chapter One. Ooh. Gosh, you're getting
creative with yours. I'm just doing different
variations of Joker. Iconic laugh. You already
took Chucky. I might be tapped. I can't think
of any. Did you have another one locked? Yeah,
A Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh, that would have
been good. Shit. All right, next up, let's see.
One more, maybe two, depending on how this round
goes. Sounds good to me. Movies with a color
in the title. Okay. I think you can do it. Probably.
I think I can make that happen. Okay. Turning
Red. Harold and the Purple Crayon. I'm sorry,
Crayon. Black Panther. Oh, that's a good one.
The black phone? Ooh, okay. Oh, you brought this
one up earlier. Red one. Oh, nice. Come on, there's
got to be one other. I got a couple. Shit, man,
you're good. I swear there's a movie called Red
Notice. Yeah. Okay. That's Dwayne and Ryan Reynolds.
That's what it is. Thank you. Okay. Red Dawn.
There's a lot of movies with red in the title.
Yep. The Black Cauldron. The Green Mile. Come
on. Shit, man. I think I'm tapped out. Are you?
Yeah, dude. I can't think of any. There's one
I was super afraid you were going to take because
if you took it, then I'm screwed. Oh, wait. Okay,
wait. Sorry. Snow White. Oh, okay. Black Adam.
Son of a bitch. How am I not thinking of these
superhero movies? I know. That's what I was thinking.
Because you already brought up Dwayne Johnson
a couple times, so I was just like, if he brings
up... But legit, if you come up with one more,
you win. Alright. I have one in mind, but I can't
remember if this was an actual movie. Deep Blue
Sea. Bastard. That is? Yeah, I'm pretty sure
that's one with What's -His -Face from Fast and
Furious. Oh, God. I'm tapped. I was thinking
that entire time while you were, I got nothing.
Okay. Yeah, I didn't. I couldn't remember if
that was an actual movie, but okay. Good to know
it is. All right. Tiebreaker. All right, let's
go. Movies where someone quits their job in a
dramatic way. Can you think of any? No. Neither
can I. That's something I see more in TV shows.
Fair. So we can veto that if you can't think
of anything. Yeah, I got nothing. The only one
I can think of is one with James McAvoy where
he smacks Chris Pratt across the face with a
keyboard. But I don't even know what movie that
is. It's the movie where it's Angelina Jolie
where they can curve the... the bullets. Oh,
wanted. Yeah. I wouldn't have gotten that. All
right. How about this? Uh, movies that revolve
around a secret identity. Why am I drawing a
blank on that shit? Yeah. Are you kidding me?
This is wait. No. Yeah. No. Okay. I think I can
do that. Who's starting? You are. Okay. The Dark
Knight? Does that count? Yeah. Okay. All right.
I think this is more just not revolves around
a secret identity. It's just ones that involve
it. Okay. So, Spider -Man. Superman. The Amazing
Spider -Man. Batman v Superman? Technically speaking.
Shazam. Ooh, that's a good one. Oh my god. Iron
Man? Does that count? If it's a gray area, I
can combo the nine. I'm going to say that's a
gray area. Okay, deal. Oh, my God. Why am I trying
a blank so hard here? Okay. I'm going to say...
Oh, wait. TMNT. Okay. Here's a gray area for
you. And it's this specific movie, Spy Kids 3D.
Wait, who's hiding their identity in that one?
Technically, Junie, because everyone thinks he's
the guy. Ooh. so like i said there's there's
a gray area because he i i think at some point
he does think he is the guy yeah i think yeah
i'd give you that one yeah yeah okay um oh i
got a really good one i think i do too i hope
this counts the mask i'll give you that um i
was gonna go ready player one Ready Player One.
What you said. That's a good one too. Shit. Oh,
Big Mama's House. Damn. Oh, that. Oh, okay. Mrs.
Doubtfire. Good one. White Chicks. Bastard. Oh,
shit. You might have me. I can't think of another
one. Because MCU stopped caring about identities
a while ago. True that. No one else really cares.
I already took Batman. Damn, I think I might
be tapped. Shit, okay. So you're taking it this
week, Rose. All right. Let's go. Damn, that was
good. Yeah, no. Those are some good rounds. Hell
yeah. All right, well, what do you say we jump
into our headliner? I say, let's do it. All right.
So like we said, the headliner of this episode
is going to be our breakdown of Tron Ares. Caleb,
do you want to let people know how we break down
movies on this podcast? I would love to. If you
are new to our breakdown system, we've split
movies into eight different categories that we
individually score to come to a final All Bros
letter grade. The eight categories that we score
are story, writing, acting, character development,
effects, music, costumes, and then we give it
our own personal score at the very end. All of
these numbers get magically added up and spit
through our algorithm and give us a letter grade
to compare this movie to others of a similar
grade. so if you have not seen tron aries uh
i don't think it's in is it still in theaters
uh no but it is on digital okay yeah so you can
watch it on digital now i don't believe it's
in theaters anymore um but if you have not seen
it uh spoiler alert Rose is about to spoil the
entire movie for you in our favorite segment
that we like to call Reading with Rose. All right.
In 2025, ENCOM and Dillinger Systems are in a
race to bring digital constructs into reality.
Dillinger Systems is led by Julian Dillinger.
Former ENCOM executive Ed Dillinger's grandson,
and ENCOM is led by Eve Kim. Eve and her partner,
Seth Flores, visit a remote station near Skagawa,
Alaska, set up by Kevin Flynn decades ago, believing
his computers hold the permanent code to break
the 29 -minute barrier holding back the constructs.
After finding the code, they transfer a digital
orange tree into the real world, where it lasts
indefinitely, even failing to freeze in the frigid
weather. Meanwhile, Julian introduces Ares, a
master control program and MCP, to shareholders,
calling him the perfect expendable soldier. Ares
shows self -awareness, noting Julian's indifference
to his survival and interest in real -world phenomena.
After Ares dematerializes, Julian's mother, Elizabeth,
expresses concern about the limited lifespan.
Julian disregards this and later uses Ares to
attack ENCOM's grid for the permanence code.
A security fight ensues as Ares downloads Eve's
personal data. During their escape, Ares, against
his programming, tries saving an injured program,
but Julian pulls him out and disables ENCOM's
grid. After being returned to the outside world...
Ares is able to track Eve's private jet after
it leaves Skagway. Eve and Seth return to ENCOM
with the permanence code. Their colleague, A
.J. Singth, reports Julian's cyberattack, forcing
Eve to flee while Julian and Ares track her,
with Ares and his second -in -command, Athena,
chasing Eve on light cycles. Eve hits Athena
and hijacks her light cycle, but Ares corners
her in a nearby port where Eve destroys the drive
containing the code. As Ares approaches the end
of his 29 -minute lifespan, he recognizes Eve's
empathy towards his plight. As Ares and Athena
dissolve, get derezzed, Julian digitizes Eve
into the Dillinger grid. Julian becomes more...
determined to retrieve the code. Ares reveals
it can be obtained using Eve's identity disk,
but will kill her as a result. Julian accepts
this risk. However, Ares then lies to Athena,
claiming that Julian is indisposed and attempts
to bargain with Eve, asking to achieve permanence
in exchange for Eve's freedom. Suspicious of
Ares' behavior, Athena contacts Julian and returns
with orders to de -res Ares. Ares and Eve are
able to evade their pursuers and return to Dillinger
headquarters. En route to ENCOM headquarters,
Eve and Ares reflect on their motivations, with
Ares determining that Eve pursued the Permanence
Code out of a sense of inferiority to her sister,
who worked on humanity. humanitarian projects.
Aries continues to show signs of individuality,
showing a fondness for Depeche Mode's song Just
Can't Get Enough. Eve realizes a copy of the
code might be stored in a museum display at ENCOM
of Kevin Flynn's original office. They reunite
with Seth to digitize and upload Ares onto Flynn's
original grid. Athena destroys the particle laser
to trap Ares and then pursues Eve. The sprinkler
system activates and Athena shows a moment of
self -awareness before dematerializing. AJ and
his assistant Aaron arrive and Seth and Eve explain
their plan to use Athena's own particular...
particle laser so they can free Ares and thwart
Julian. Elizabeth retakes the CEO position and
she tries turning off the particle laser, but
Athena rematerializes and fatally stabs her,
having interpreted her as an obstacle in the
directive given by Julian to obtain the code
by any means. On Flynn's grid, Ares encounters
an aspect of Flynn and they discuss Ares' desire
for permanence. Intrigued by Ares' wish to live
permanently and his eternal awareness, Flynn
grants Ares the permanence code and sends him
to Flynn's arcade via a backdoor where he rematerializes.
Athena pilots a recognizer into the city to find
Eve and eventually captures her while the ENCOM
staff breach the Dillinger grid. After Athena
captures Eve and prepares to return to Dillinger,
Ares intercepts them, engaging Athena and her
allies. AJ, Seth, and Aaron penetrate and shut
down the Dillinger mainframe, preventing any
of the Dillinger programs. bearing Ares from
rematerializing. A wounded Athena permanently
dematerializes in Ares' arms. The authorities
raid the Dillinger headquarters, but Julian uses
the laser to digitize himself. Eve and Ares go
their separate ways, with ENCOM using the permanence
code to benefit the world. Ares later sends Eve
a postcard about his life outside the grid and
plans to find Flynn's son Sam and his companion
Cora. Eve reconstructs the Skagway facility on
top of Encom Tower, including the orange tree.
Meanwhile, Julian explores the damaged Dillinger
grid and is transformed by an identity disk that
belonged to his grandfather's program, SARC.
There we go. Hell yeah. Dude, just coming right
out of the gate with this. There is no reason
that this movie didn't perform as good as it
should have. I can give you a huge reason why.
Yeah. That and also like Tron Legacy did well,
well enough, but like it wasn't like anything
outrageously profitable. And that's kind of what
sucks about the Tron franchise. Like it's so
cool to look at. And I think for the most part,
like the story is definitely there and the characters
as well, but just for some reason it just can't
attract a lot of people. That's crazy. Cause
it's like, like I saw so many fricking videos
going around about how good Tron legacy is and
how like interesting it is. And just the Tron
franchise, like this. Like you said, the story
is there. And and this, I think, added a whole
new level to it. And it's like an easy to understand
like concept, which was nice. And so it was able
like, yes, it was a fairly simplistic story,
but it had like complicated elements to it that
were intriguing. Intriguing. Especially in our
time of how significant AI is, the idea of being
able to bring in a plant or something, a digital
construct into the real world and have it be
something that we can interact with and even
consume is crazy. Like it's such a cool concept.
I thought the execution was perfect. The representation
of different like computer elements was really
like fascinating. Like my like the thing that
I liked was the representation of machine learning.
Yeah, I would agree with that. Like with. With
the. like with how aries came to be like him
being like a combat program like he was an ai
meant to learn how to fight and it's so it was
so cool to look at like all of his combat was
was sick and like all of the elements of tron
are awesome most definitely and then like yeah
like the story was here like i'm it was it's
crazy to think that like a lot of people chose
not to see this because of freaking Jared Leto
and like don't get me wrong the dude's weird
but yeah when he wants to give you like a good
performance he can give you a damn good performance
it's true and I mean he stated that he's a huge
Tron fan and I feel for the performance he gives
here and clearly like how knowledgeable even
despite Despite how knowledgeable his character
is, I feel you could even tell how knowledgeable
Jared Leto is about this franchise and just Tron.
It's honestly insane. I love when an actor can
join a franchise that they love so much, that
they know so much about, and they can add something
new to the franchise. I know a lot of people
because... A lot of people hate Jared Leto. They
really wish that because of how bad the box office
was for this movie, they wish that Disney would
have just written off Jared Leto, written him
a nice check and brought someone in new besides
him to be the star. Which I'm glad they didn't
because one, his performance here, it is solid.
I feel just before how big of a fan he is of
this franchise. It, it brought, it brought something
to it. Yeah. Like it, it's, I don't know. Like,
I think, I think people give Jared Leto too hard
of a time. Sometimes like, is the dude a weirdo?
Like, yeah. Like, has he ruined some like fairly
good, like I'm not ruined. like his his role
in like the suicide squad too much like even
hearing the stuff that was happening behind the
scenes like it too much guy like are you serious
like it's not that freaking deep like chill you
didn't see walking phoenix doing anything like
that on on either joker or joker folia dues yeah
um and then like the other one that people give
him shit for more um, Morbius or is it Morbius?
Yeah. Or yeah. Yeah. Like his role in more Morbius,
like it's, he was not the problem with that movie.
The whole movie is the problem. Yeah. Like he
was just like, I think he's perfect for that
role. For like the character and how that character
looks like, I thought he was a spot on fit. And
it's just the movie was weird. Yeah. What? Who's
the actor that played the villain in that? Oh,
Matt, Matt, Matt Smith. Yeah. You could tell
he was having he was having a good time. So I
appreciated that. He was a good villain. yeah
he was a really good villain and like they had
the elements it's just i think they just wrote
it funky and like it's it's hard to have a movie
about a spider -man villain without including
spider -man dude that was sony and their decision
to do that one of the Because I'm going to ignore
the Venom movies because those were actually
pretty decent. I know they're included in this.
Yeah, but Venom's an interesting character on
his own. That's true. Yeah, the person that decided,
oh yeah, let's do a Madam Web movie, a Morbius
movie, a Krang movie, and not mention Spider
-Man. Because I don't think they even mention
Spider -Man. And of course they don't include
him. Nope. Who the hell at Sony thought that
was a good idea? Like, come on. Yeah, freaking
ridiculous. It's insane to do. So the only Sony
movie I haven't seen yet is Kraven. Hey, same
here. And I kind of really want to. Just because
I hear it is like freaking nuts. Was it ever
put on Netflix? So it was, but you had to have
the special subscription for it. It was so dumb.
Wait, like the $24 .99 one? Yeah, let's see.
Yeah, it's on Netflix right now, but you have
to have a special subscription for it. Well,
that's freaking dumb. Yeah. So I have to pay
the top tier price to watch. Yeah. You have to
have the ads free plan. Oh, okay. So you have
to have one. So, cause I, I think there's three
plans with Netflix. There's the, like the big,
like 4k get everything 2499 one. And then like
this 18 one that gets you like that, but like
a step down, but with no ads. And then there's
the, the ad one. yeah let me see what you have
to subscribe to or not uh yeah so it's you have
to have an ad free plan that's so dumb so it's
the yeah so you have to have the standard plan
standard or premium that is ridiculous that you're
literally you're still paying money and you don't
have access to everything Yeah, well, it's restricted
due to licensing. Oh, freaking Sony. Yeah, so
the licensing restrictions keep it from being
like totally free. Sony, you suck. Yeah, I know
you give us Ghostbusters, but you still suck.
Yeah, but I mean. Yeah, Jared Leto is not the
problem with Morbius. No, I would agree. It was
the way that Sony was dealing with Spider -Man.
You could have included Spider -Man very easily
without bringing in Tom Holland and everything.
You could have just had a Spider -Man. Yeah,
seriously. That's the part that gets me. We weren't
asking for a lot. It's just a Spider -Man. Yeah.
You didn't even have to touch Tom Holland. like
just include a spider -man doesn't matter who
i'm pretty sure garfield or mcguire would have
done it pretty easy but you could have had just
a random ass spider -man too like we don't like
in that instance i think having spider -man with
no like without taking his mask off would have
been really beneficial oh yeah definitely like
that like and that would have been even easier
just have like tom holland do some voice work
like how cool would that be oh yeah i would love
that but no yeah and then in that in in that
case like how like i think that would have been
cool to to kind of have that focus on the villain
but then like and so show like basically make
the the villain kind of um i don't want to say
relatable but like make him make us understand
the villain and then throw spider -man in make
spider -man like the bad guy of the movie where
he comes in and just like no you don't understand
like like that kind of shit like how cool if
he's like like we go on this whole emotional
arc with one of their villains and then suddenly
like when he's like in the moment of trying to
get his revenge or whatever like the case may
be where it feels like satisfactory to us for
him to like take this revenge then spider -man
comes in completely screws it up and you're just
like no like that would be such an interesting
take yeah i would Like it just, it more just
shows off that like the villains aren't always
wrong. Yeah. Like maybe, like maybe there's some
justification to their actions. Like, I think
that'd be wildly interesting just to throw in
the wrench that is Spidey. Yeah. But having like
a completely disassociated story with no Spider
-Man insight whatsoever. is crazy yeah that was
that was such a stupid decision yeah but we're
here to talk about tron aries not for kids or
sony's decisions with the spider -man villains
i will say one of the biggest things i really
appreciate about this story is they definitely
tried something new with Tron. That's one of
the biggest things I enjoy about this franchise.
Each movie tries something different. Like you're
not like, you know, the, the first one, you know,
like I know a lot of people laugh at the graphics
nowadays, but like fricking back then those were
revolutionary. And so Tron legacy, like kind
of. kind of did the same thing. Like it mostly
stuck to the grid where for the, for the most
part of the movie, we are in the grid. And so
I think that that was, I think that was a good
decision because you know, with how, how much
we've evolved with technology, you definitely
want to showcase like how, how good it could
look in there. And then I love in this movie,
we do see the grid. We do see a good amount of
that, but we actually see it taken to the real
world. That was some of the coolest shit. I've
seen in a good long while. Seeing those light
cycles race around New York City or wherever
the hell they were, that was badass. Oh, yeah.
Dude, seeing the light trails interact with the
real world, nuts. Dude, freaking when that one
splits that police car in half, I know we saw
it in the trailer, but still seeing that on the
big screen, that was awesome. yeah um i really
liked the drones that encircled what was her
name eve yeah yeah so that in that circled eve
and then how she was trying to like get out but
like couldn't climb on it because it was like
too steep or whatever like that she was crazy
yeah and then the way that like when they got
destroyed and then they started like disappearing
and everything like that looked so cool it did
yeah it did But they had so much shit like that.
That was awesome. Like, the light trails on,
like, the staffs. Oh, yeah. How, like, when,
I forget what it's called. Like, an orbiter or
something. That's probably not what it was called.
I think that's from Halo. But, like, when all
the freaking, like, the drones drop out of that
ship and just start spreading across. everywhere
like that looked awesome yeah um and then yeah
the light cycle was sick like i loved seeing
the light cycles i like this gave me everything
that i wanted from tron legacy it's like i just
want more tron oh yeah this gave it to us like
in plentiful supply Give me a good light cycle
chase and a couple of fights throwing your, was
it light? I don't know. Light disc? I don't think
that's the right word. Their disc, whatever.
Yeah, it's like their identity discs. Yeah. Have
a couple people fighting with those. I'm sold
with your Tron movie. You've already pleased
me. Yeah, it's so good. It is so good. And like
I said, the story, it's simplistic, but I think
it's well executed. Like I would agree. They
they build up the hype of. Like the stakes, they
build up the stakes really well. Because like
it's like once once Ares turns against like his
creator and he's just like, OK, like. It gives
you a timeline. They have to accomplish this
goal in 30 minutes or they're shit out of luck.
And then being able to execute that was amazing.
Yeah. because it gets down to the freaking wire
and like all the things that they do like they're
down to like the last seconds and aries is is
ready to do the sacrificial play to defeat athena
but like and you feel it you're just like oh
man like i wonder how they're going to and then
he gets blasted with the the plasma cannon or
whatever the thing that like sucks him into the
Kevin Flynn or Flynn's computer and then you're
just like oh shit and then like you have a whole
new problem like the stakes were constantly keeping
you on your toes yep and I think I thought that
made for a very interesting story like this is
one that I'm like it didn't quite crack into
the 90s but I'm like at an 88 with it like I
loved this story Like, I love that how it was
easy to follow. It's been a while since I've
watched Tron Legacy. I feel like that gets a
little convoluted. But yeah, so I mean, I liked
the story in Tron Legacy, but I think this did
it better. It simplified what it was up to the
stakes to like the nth degree. It was damn near
perfect. in its execution fair no uh i'm i'm
a little lower than you uh i'm an 82 uh for story
um i do think when it comes to telling a story
of tron me personally i think legacy did it a
little better um i just I know we're not supposed
to, you know, compare, but just like the story
and legacy I vibed more with. But not detracting
from this story, because I agree with everything
that Caleb said, like the way that they pulled
this off, you know, bring the grid to the real
world. The story keeping you on your toes because
you think one thing is going to happen and then
all of a sudden. plot twists and here we go into
a, into something new. I really appreciated that.
Yeah. Overall, it's, it's a very solid Tron story.
And I feel for how difficult I feel Tron is to
like, tell a compelling story. I think that this
movie did a really good job with it. I feel like
all three of the Tron movies have. And I think
that that's something that shouldn't be overlooked
because the, the whole, the whole idea of Tron
is like just so out there, I feel. And the fact
that we've had like three movies that like their
stories are actually like pretty solid. Maybe
the first one, like not as solid as these two.
The first one, I think the problem with the first
one is it's, it suffers from the problem that
most older movies have. And it's, that it's old
yeah that that is fair and it's like they they
included a lot of shit that was there's a lot
of fluff like they could have trimmed down that
movie significantly and i think that's the problem
like if you cut the fluff tron is a great movie
but there's so much fluff in it yeah it distracts
from like what it what it could have been No,
I think with a modern day cut or a modern day
edit, I think that has the potential to be a
great re -release. If only Disney had the confidence
to do that. Or the freaking balls. Unfortunately,
after this one, I don't think that we'll be seeing
anything Tron for quite a while. Yeah, I think
it'll be a hot minute. Yeah. Which sucks, because
they have... like disney i think disney sees
the potential in tron because i do too because
i mean look at that new ride that they just came
out with yeah that ride looks sick yeah and it's
just like they i think they know what they have
but it just something keeps getting in the way
yeah and unfortunately i think this time it was
jared leto yeah So, like, but I don't, I also,
he, he was great in this role. And I don't think,
I think people just saw Jared Leto and they're
like, oh, I'm not getting involved in that, whatever
this is. Because I even saw fans that were, like,
they were pretty decent fans of Tron. And they're
like, oh, yeah, new Tron movie. See Jared Leto's
text attached out, never mind. Yeah, bullshit.
Like. I've told this to multiple people that
are just like like I was talking to a buddy at
work about like the new Witcher, the new season
of Witcher. Yeah. And how they recast Henry Cavill
with Liam Hemsworth. And he was just like he
was so unwilling to watch the new season. He's
just like, oh, I'm not even going to watch it.
I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to watch
it. And I was like, okay, why? Like, was season
three bad? No, season three was good. Okay, so
why wouldn't you watch season four? Well, because
they recast Henry Cavill. Okay, so you're not
even going to give this new guy a chance? Well,
no, I've never seen him in anything good. Well,
what if he's good in this? And then it's just
like, well, no, like just refusing to give him
even a shot. And like I told him, I was just
like, I have no problem with the with the recasting.
Is it funky? Yeah. Like, it's weird to kind of
recast like a main character like that. Like,
I think you could have done like a complete rewrite,
like it basically created a different witch or
whatever. But like, whatever it's. But to not
even give the new guy a shot to prove himself.
I'm like, can't you just watch it to enjoy the
material like you have to watch it? Are you you
refuse to watch it because of an act or a casting
decision, something that you have enjoyed up
until this point? Like and he said he's like,
I play the games there. They're deviating from
the video game or the book story or whatever.
And. Henry Cavill decided not to be part of it
because they're deviating too far from the story.
Okay. Then did they, how far did they deviate
from season three? Well, they deviated this,
this, this, this, and this. Okay. Were those
bad changes? Well, no. And I'm like, okay. So
the storytellers had an idea in mind. The, their,
their lead. didn't like it and chose to basically
like part from the project they still had a story
to tell so they they filled his role with someone
that would help them fulfill that story but you're
refusing to watch it because of that recasting
like that like that's it's silly it's it's like
i've enjoyed like i've enjoyed this story up
till this point but a recasting is going to like
change it it's like no let the directors like
if the directors tell a shitty story like that's
on them yeah but you not even giving this like
a new casting a chance or giving an actor a chance
to prove themselves like yeah as liam hemsworth
been in anything that i would define as groundbreaking
no But you could still give him the opportunity
to do that. Like he could blow you away. You
might like him better, but you'll never know
because you're not willing to give him the chance.
And it's the same deal with with Jared Leto.
And it's just like I don't think people are willing
to give Jared Leto the chance just because he's
been in bad projects. Yeah. I didn't think I'd
be defending Jared Leto this episode, but here
we are. I'll, I'm sorry though. I'll tell you
one role that I can't defend him on. Cause I
just think he's, he's going to be horribly miscast
in it. Him cast as Skeletor and the masters of
the universe. Dude, I, Oh man, that's I listen.
I think he's crazy enough to do it. Yeah, I think
I hope I'm proven wrong. I really do. Listen,
like I am. I like Skeletor. Is a is a crazy character.
I want to see him do a good job with Skeletor.
And I think I think he can like literally like
I think his. Oh, man, I might regret saying this.
I think him bringing in his Joker energy could
make Skeletor great. All right. Fair enough.
Listen, it didn't work for Joker. I think he
needs to up the crazy just a bit, throw in some
of that Joker swag. I think you got it. But here's
the thing. You cannot do. Anything other than
the skull. With Skeletor. Yeah. You can't. If
you do. Horrible failure. True that. I want them
to do. But. This is my frame of reference too.
His. Portrayal of the box head ghost. Or the
hat, the box hat ghost in Haunted Mansion. Dude,
I straight up forgot that he was in that movie.
Yeah. Kind of great. Fair enough. I do remember
it being pretty solid. So if they could pull
that off, I think they could pull Skeletor off.
But Skeletor has to be like a good portion CG
or at least just the skull. That would make the
movie for me. If they could just skull, basically
do a practical suit and just do a skeletal, just
replace his face, basically pull a Nicolas Cage
with Ghost Rider, I could be down for that. I'm
looking forward to see what they do. Have they
released anything with that movie? No. I know
they've done posters and little teasers and stuff,
but... Yeah, that's it. There hasn't been any
teasers or anything like that. When's that movie
supposed to come out? Does it come out in 26?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm excited for that one.
I never watched the show or anything like that,
so I'm sorry to say I, in a way, could care less.
But if you want to break it down and watch it,
I'll go watch it. I... I've watched bits and
pieces of He -Man. Mostly just like little clips
and stuff. And I think it is delightfully cheesy.
All right. It's kind of like G .I. Joe. Like
it is in that same vein, like it's like it's
like Thundercats, then then He -Man, G .I. Joe.
I like I view all of those in like kind of the
same vein. Yeah. Where it's just like wonder,
like I said, wonderfully cheesy. And I'm excited
for it because it's like I I've tried going back
and watching the show and it's just it's. A little
on the boring side. But I think it's because
I don't have the nostalgia for it. Yeah. Because
it wasn't something I ever grew up on. Yeah.
But I do love little bits of it. I used to do
this all the time. I don't even know when I'd
see clips of it on Boomerang or whatever where
He -Man grabs his sword and he goes, I have the
power. I did that all the time. Anytime I had
like fake swords, like I would do the, the, he
meant like the, I have the power or like just
random shit like that. Um, funny enough. And
fun fact, I hold on. Let me, before I make a
fool of myself. Okay. Yeah, so I feel comfortable
enough saying this. My wife, Brielle, she actually
got her name from He -Man. Really? Yeah, so there's
a character in there that I thought was more
related to He -Man, but I guess not. But there's
a character in there named Drielle. huh and yeah
so and i i think yeah and then her her mom turned
it into like brielle that's cool right that's
awesome at least i think i'd have to ask her
again like where she got that but but i do remember
her saying that it was some what related to to
He -Man. Okay, that's awesome. I'll ask her again.
But as far as I'm aware, I do recall her mentioning
something like that. So, yeah, I might ask her.
Okay. Anyway, writing. I thought this was pretty
solid. I think... This one especially does a
really good job at explaining everything that's
going on. Why the grid is what it is, what Dillinger
has done with it, why these two companies are
at each other's throats. I will give this one
a one -up over Legacy. I do think that the writing
does a better job at... not spoon feeding it
to you. Like they're not trying to make you feel
stupid for like having to simplify it so much.
It doesn't get to that point, but it does such
a good job at making sure you understand why
these characters motives are, are what they are.
Why the grid is what it is. Stuff like that.
So I, I do appreciate this movie a lot for that.
Yeah, this is definitely a good movie if you
wanted to start. I think that this movie could
spark an interest in Tron. Absolutely. Because
it does do a really good job at not, like what
you said, not spoon -speeding it. Spoon -feeding
it to you. Spoon -speeding, huh? Yeah, spoon
-speeding. it it does it explains everything
very well very easy terms like this is a good
entry movie to the Tron franchise and then you
could just be like holy shit like that was so
cool like what happened to the other ones yeah
I want to know who this Kevin Flynn is really
and who's his son and so go to yeah go to I mean
honestly you could you literally could just do
3 2 1 if you wanted to Yeah. And I think it works
really like it, it works well. Cause you could
go back into like other, like the other movies
and it's like, it has enough teases towards it
where you're just like, Oh wow. Like check out
this, like who, who's this, like the son of Kevin
Flynn and, and whatnot. And then you go back
and watch that. Oh, that's super cool. Blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you. then you
go and watch the first one and then you're just
like oh my gosh that's like the like that's where
aries went into like the when he entered the
like the grid or like the old -timey grid like
oh that's crazy like it's cool like it's cool
that they could do stuff like that absolutely
i will say like i don't i think this one i'm
a little bit lower on with story um Just because
I don't like where the story, yes, it was simple,
but like really well executed. The writing, it
was really well done. I don't think it blew me
away in any significant way. So, I mean, I actually
might be 84 with writing. For me, I honestly
think that the writing and the story are on the
exact same level for me. So I'm going to go another
82. All right. Moving on over to acting. First
up, we got the man himself, Jared Leto, who plays
Ares. We got Greta Lee, who plays Eve Kim. We
have Jody Turner -Smith, who plays Athena. We
have Evan Peters, who plays Julian Dillinger.
Jeff Bridges, who plays Kevin Flynn. Jillian
Anderson, who plays Elizabeth Dillinger. Hassan
Minhaj, who plays AJ Singh. And then we have
Arturo Castro, who plays Seth Flores. Who what's
your top three look like? So number one, I'm
giving Evan Peters. I thought he was a great
villain. I mean, he's incredible in everything
that he does. Unhinged like you wouldn't believe.
Dude, like seriously. And I absolutely agree
with you on this. He's my number one as well.
Hell yeah. He's really good at playing a villain.
I mean, I know, of course, he played, you know,
Jeffrey Dahmer in the Monster series. I really
wonder if, you know, him playing that, you know,
horrible person, if he took anything that worked
with him for that, if he brought that into this
character at all and just showcasing how evil
this guy could be. But Gavin Peters, amazing
as always. What I really liked. Oh, sorry. What
I really liked about his character is how understandable
his crash out was. Yeah. Because where he was
just like, I need to find the permanence code,
doing anything that he could to get it even going
in. basically trying to go in the back door to
try and get it when that didn't work. And then
she destroyed the evidence. And they're just
like, oh, yeah, like we could just download her
and basically take it from her. And he's like,
do it, do it, do it. And but then when he realized
that it would kill her and you could see him
like, oh, shit. And then they're just like, would
there be any trace? Like, would anyone know?
And then they're like, no. And he's just like.
Like for someone that's like, that's so business
oriented like that, you could understand like
the temptation for it. Yeah. And then when he's
just like, okay, do it. Like, I think he struggles
with that for a minute. And then when it's like,
she escapes and he's just like, what the hell?
Like, like that. I think that's. the shit that
gets him where he and then it's just like oh
shit like if she gets out and tells everyone
like i'm done for and so yeah him trying to be
like by whatever means necessary like kill her
like that completely understandable yeah like
it's not right by any means but i know like it's
understandable why like why he had the the major
freak out that he did yeah definitely and he
portrayed that so well just that oh shit like
i'm gonna get caught moment yeah it was amazing
no definitely so who's your number two uh number
two i'd give to the actress that played eve kim
right ah me too yeah greta lee yeah she did a
great job here um i especially loved her whole
storyline with um how after her sister died um
you know she took over uh the business but then
we find out like the cracks uh between that like
as the movie goes on so you find out like what
her relationship was like with her sister because
wasn't it like her like their parents like always
saw her sister as like the like um one that was
gonna be the most successful like and eve kind
of got don't know i think she like i think they
were both like pretty like that like from what
i remember they were both like very fairly successful
okay and they they they worked to like pretty
closely together but she began to separate her
herself once her sister got sick oh yeah that's
what it was and so finding the permanence code
was her attempt to basically like complete her
sister's work yes and then she could like kind
of set it basically set it aside and and part
from the company yeah okay yeah okay yeah that
makes more sense um yeah no she she was really
good enjoyed her character a lot and her story
was pretty solid and she did a really good job
Yeah, she did really good. My favorite scene
of hers was really early on. It's when she knocked
Athena off of the light bike. oh yeah and then
she's just like like looks over the edge and
athena's like laying sprawled down on the concrete
and she's like okay tries to pick up the bike
and then like starts like here's movement or
whatever goes and looks again and she's like
running up the freaking that was so freaking
scary yeah that was insane and oh my gosh how
close she got insane seriously insane like he
scared the shit out of me dude like oh man it's
just like run bitch run oh for real but yeah
she she's again number two for me as well hell
yeah uh number three um i think we are going
to be different on this one because number three
i would give to uh who's the last one on the
list uh gastro Yeah, I loved his character, his
energy, Seth Flores. He definitely brought the
comedic side to this movie, and I loved him for
it. It was entertaining watching him work with
Eve. And just, yeah, so he was my number three.
Really loved his energy. I really liked it, too.
I'm actually giving my number three to... Gillian
Anderson. Ooh, okay. I thought her role as Gillian
Dillinger's mother was so incredible. She is
an amazing actress. They had such good chemistry
as mother son and her i don't know it's just
her like almost disdain for him and like his
actions were was so like evident and she played
it off so well and so when she was finally like
i'm shutting this shit down and athena comes
and bushwhacks her like it was heartbreaking
It was crazy. It's just like, oh man, you saw
it coming from a mile away, but it still freaking
hits you where it hurts. Yeah. I loved her. Close
number four, though, would be Jared Leto. I would
agree. It's really sad that he's not even in
our top three. I know, and the movie's basically
about him. Yeah. And honestly, It would be a
coin flip number four with Jody Turner. Oh, dude,
absolutely. Like that's I think that's the part
that's like more messed up because she was the
most intimidating person I've seen ever. Yeah,
she was amazing. She was so scary. Frickin wild.
Absolutely wild. I freaking loved her. She was
so good. Where are you sitting with your acting
score? Just because of the solid performances,
I think I will be just slightly higher than my
story in writing. I think I'd give acting an
84. I'm actually just one point below you at
83. Oh, yeah. Alright, next up we got character
development, which I think this could be done
on Ares? I would say so. Seeing him go through
with literally just being a program and then
watching him become sentient and realizing that
he wants to get out of the grid and actually
become a human and have feelings. All that jazz.
I feel for the most part, it's pretty decent
character development. I mean, it's a pretty
simple character development. I feel like, oh,
this character starts out as a computer program,
starts to realize what they were programmed to
do is not the right thing, and then progresses
into actually realizing what's right, what's
wrong. Um, and comes to conclusion that they
want to be sentient. They want to be, um, human,
whatever. Um, and they're able to have that,
um, wish granted by the end. Yeah. I think the,
the montage that they went through kind of explaining
Ares origins and how he came to be really helped
with. how he's just constantly in a state of
learning. And so when he is brought into the
real world for the first time and experiences
Rain, and then when he goes back to Athena and
talks about what it felt like, it really opened
the door for this development. I think it was
pretty early on. And I think that there could
have been a little bit more struggle with him
accepting. He was already 100 % on board with
being human. Yeah, I'm thinking a little bit
more of a struggle. I think him denying or rejecting
his programming should have taken a bit longer
than it did. Him wanting to help and go with
Eve to discover permanence and it having it be
more like I want to be able to experience the
real world for longer than 30 minutes. I can't
fully it's like i can't fully experience what
what the real world has to offer in 30 minutes
and so him seeking that out seeking the permanence
code and then like eve trying to keep it from
him because if he gets his hands on it then dillinger
has has his hands would have made more sense
yeah um and then him like eventually him basically
turning completely i think he should have gotten
the permanence code and then like then turn against
julian like i think that's how like the orb operations
like i think it should have been later in the
movie that he kind of turned against and then
athena gets sent after him to retrieve the permanence
code yeah i would agree yeah but uh it was good
i mean it was I'd say like fairly average. So
I'd be giving it like a 75. I don't think it
was anything too spectacular. It wasn't. I think
I'll go a point higher than you at 76. All right,
moving on over to effects. So good. Even if you
hate the story, the characters of any of these
movies, you cannot deny the effects in any Tron
movie, even if we're looking at the original,
are cool as hell. So sick. So ridiculously sick.
Yeah. Which is absolutely awesome. And I love
that with Tron Legacy, they mostly focused on
blue, that being what we really saw the characters
in for the most part. And then this one, they
focused on the red. And I just loved that variance.
That was super, super cool. We still saw some
blue characters in the grid, but for the most
part, we're focusing on the red. And so badass.
so sick and when he when he shifts from like
from his red lights to like it was more white
than anything right yeah yeah when he shifts
to the white light i'm like oh so cool awesome
like they did like the the way that they're able
to play with light in these movies is so well
done It is. It's fascinating to look at and their
designs for everything are incredible. Yeah,
it's so good. Like this is one I'm I'm really
freaking high in effects because I thought the
action was good. It was it was wildly intense.
The. Like, the different, like, the light cycles,
the planes. Dude, the little personal glider
shit. So cool. Yeah, that was awesome. Like,
they took everything that I liked about Tron
and just upped it. And it looked incredible.
Like, anything that, like... Oh, my gosh. My
favorite freaking scene is the way that they
recreated the OG Tron. Oh, dude, they did such
a great job with that. I know. I haven't even
seen Tron like the OG Tron in in years. Yeah,
I don't think I've seen it since I first I watched
it before Tron Legacy came out. It was the last
time I watched it. Yeah, that's what I watched
it, too. It hit me with nostalgia so ridiculously
hard. I'm like, no freaking way. Like this is
ridiculous. It was awesome. Oh my gosh. Like
everything about it, dude. Like they, they even
did like the, where they were like in black and
white, like the skin was in black and white,
but the suit was in like in color. Yeah. Oh my
gosh, so good. So good. Such great attention
to detail. Amazing attention. And I loved every
single second of that. Same here. I was like,
this hits in a great way. So I am probably at
like 97, honestly. I'm up there. I'm just slightly
below you at a 96. Alright, moving on over to
music. I feel this was pretty good. I don't think
it's as good as Tron Legacy soundtrack because
that one was done by Daft Punk. But still, for
a Tron movie, pretty solid soundtrack, I'd say.
It was. I'd probably be at an 8 or 9 for Tron
Legacy. Probably an 8. For this one, I'd be at
a 7. I would probably go... Yeah, I'd probably
be a seven as well. Hell yeah. I have to rewatch
Legacy. I haven't seen that one in a hot minute.
Yeah. Just in nowhere. Because I remember being
like... I'd probably... I don't know. I think
with this one, I'd be more like a seven and a
half. Sure. But yeah, anyway. Yeah, I'm just
trying to think that I don't think that there
was anything that was like ultra memorable about
the soundtrack. Like it was it was good. It fit
the tone. And I think that they use the soundtracks
well, like when they were doing things like the
chase scenes and like the soundtrack was it was
what it needed to be. absolutely all right moving
on over to costumes these are pretty solid as
well i mean not the like human like you know
ignoring the human costumes because you know
like that's just you know everyday clothes but
freaking i don't know eve's was pretty cool like
her okay i'll give you hers her blue uh leather
jacket was pretty sick okay i'll give you that
Like, was it iconic? No. Like, I wouldn't say
that. But it was pretty slick. And then seeing
her in her The User, like, Tron outfit, that
was pretty cool, too. Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah,
dude, freaking. I love that his was the full
-on helmet, whereas the other ones just had the
visor kind of helmets. So you could definitely
tell he was the most important one. But they
freaking took the costumes from Tron Legacy and
just freaking dialed them up to 10 in this one.
And they looked so, so good. Oh, yeah. Also,
the triangular discs are... Oh, yeah. Sick. Yeah,
dude. So, so sick. Like, I loved when when they
were doing the when they were trying to break
down the firewall of like, what was it? Epcon
or whatever it was. yeah it was something like
that yeah like basically eve's company like i
love the the fight that they were having where
they were throwing the triangular or where aries
was throwing the triangular disc like it was
it was slick yeah that was awesome so good this
is one i i'd probably be at like an eight with
it i don't know if it quite cracks nine for me
that I absolutely agree. All right. Last up,
we got personal score. Who do you want to take
this one? Up to you. I want to hear yours because
I think I'm probably going to be lower than you.
Oh, probably. I just getting into it. I'm at
a 90. Shit, okay. I really like this movie. I
like this so much. It is one that I cannot wait
for it to come to Disney +, so I can re -watch
it again. I want to do a Tron marathon with this.
I want to watch the OG, I want to watch Legacy,
and then I want to watch Ares. Just because that
is how much I freaking enjoyed this movie. Of
the three, I think I might like Ares more than
Legacy. Wow. And I really like Legacy. Damn.
All right. I think my personal score for Legacy
would probably be like 88, 89. So it's close.
Like, it's close for me, but I think I like this
one just a hint more. Okay. Wow. Damn. Okay.
Wow. Well, I'm going to be the asshole in this
situation. I'm going an 80 for my personal score.
Damn. I'm sorry, man. Because, like, with Tron
Legacy, that one's still my favorite. out of
all Tron movies. And I'd probably be at like
an 84, 85 with that one. So like, I do feel like
don't get me wrong. I really enjoyed this one.
I think this is a, this is a solid Tron movie,
but like ranking why I don't, I can't even like
rank the first one because I haven't seen it
in so long. So like just out of these two Tron
legacy is my favorite. And then comes Tron Aries.
But it's still a solid Tron movie. The effects
are just out of this world, like usual. The characters
are pretty solid. The story is pretty solid.
But just was a step down a little bit for me
from Tron Legacy. So personal score is an 80.
Okay. All right, going through these scores real
quick. So starting off with story, we ended up
averaging out at an 85. The writing is a couple
points below, sitting at an 83. Acting got a
half point bump from there, sitting at an 83
.5. Character development is our lowest category,
sitting at a 75 .5. The effects are our highest
category, sitting at a 96 .5. The music is sitting
at a 7 out of 10. The costumes are sitting at
an 8 out of 10. And then our personal score averaged
out to an 85. So with that, the All Bros letter
grade for Tron Ares has come out to a... A B.
All right. Not bad. Yeah, not bad at all. Let's
see. Okay, it's a pretty, it's an in the middle
B. All right. It is sitting at an 84 .18%. Not
bad. Yeah, so that puts it, you want to go above
or below first? Let's hear above. Okay, so it
is above A Christmas Story Christmas. Okay. I,
I forget how, but like, um, on my feed stuff
with the Christmas story keeps popping up. And
so I really want to go back and watch that. Cause
I remember that being a pretty solid legacy sequel
and doesn't get enough love. Yeah. Um, let's
see. It's above free guy. Okay. Here's one that
I will purse. This one's a tough one. Um, it's
sitting above Megan 2 .0. Ooh. damn yeah and
i really liked megan 2 .0 yeah megan 2 .0 was
a solid sequel yeah it's above thor ragnarok
really damn okay yeah and then it is above murder
of murder on the orient express okay going what
it's below it is sitting below solo a star wars
story yeah i'm okay with that It is below Blue
Beetle. Okay, how did neither of us think to
say that? Blue Beetle? Yeah. What the hell is
wrong with us? Yeah, I freaking had a couple
others after the fact. I was like, oh, man. Yeah,
so we got Blue Beetle. Then it's below Avengers
Age of Ultron. Fair. It's below Joker. Fully.
I do. I'm personally okay with that. I know you're
not. Yeah. And then finally it is below prey.
Okay. Not bad. Yeah. And I, I can definitely
agree to that. Yeah. So yeah, that's where it's
sitting. All right. Not bad. Not bad. Yeah. I
think it's got a pretty decent home. I do too.
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