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What is up, bros? I'm Caleb. And I'm Jonathan.

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And today we are joined by a very special guest.

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A little baby named DJ. Hell yeah. So we are

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joined by DJ, but we are a few bros on a mission

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to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews

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out there with as little bias as possible. Welcome

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to the All Bros. This week... It is, I forget,

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is it our, oh, damn, we missed it. Our eight

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-year, the All Bros eight -year birthday was

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last Friday. So this is going to get released

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on the 24th. So 10 days ago from when this gets

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released. We did miss it because I was. Indisposed.

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Do you forget? I felt so stupid last week. I

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actually like logged on and everything. I had

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the cast list ready to go. And I'm like, wait,

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shit. It was like six 30. I'm like, fuck no.

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Caleb's still on the road. He's traveling. Thank

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you. Thank you. Because I texted Caleb and I

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was like, Hey, we still good for tonight. And

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I was. I was actually dying. I was like, there's

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no way I'm going to be able to do this, but I'm

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going to do it for the bros. And two hours later,

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he was like, oh man, he's like, it must've been

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a miscommunication. It's next week. And I'm like,

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thank you, Jesus. And I went to sleep probably

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30 minutes later. Dude, I was getting the notifications

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on my phone and it was just like recording to

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Ironman tonight. And I was like, what the hell

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are you talking? Oh, shit. I've never been so

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happy for a mix -up in my whole life. I know,

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dude. I completely freaking spaced. So I had

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it planned out because I was thinking, oh, yeah,

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we'll just do it the 11th because I'm like, I'm

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just going to be gone that weekend. But, yeah,

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I completely forgot that I was going to be gone

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both freaking Tuesdays. So, yeah, that was definitely

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my bad. damn that's crazy i did were you guys

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in what year like two or three whenever you did

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inner circle uh the game show because that's

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when i that's when we met you guys yeah it was

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like two or three yeah it was it was pre -covid

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right oh yeah it was definitely pre -covid that's

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crazy it's really sad that that's how you like

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Think of, oh, hey, what time did we meet? Was

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it pre -COVID or after COVID? That's the best

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way to judge how long we've known each other.

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I mean, here's the really crazy part for me is

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I was in my 30s when we met. I am now 42. Wow.

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Okay. So there you have it. we did it we've broken

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all barriers all decades uh yeah because i was

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we did that episode when i was living in utah

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yes and it was that the house that had the absolute

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shit internet dude you guys kept losing me oh

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yeah and i'm so freaking embarrassed that's okay

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whenever we so before we were with uh the inner

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circle we were with uh civilized creatures and

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they did you know another podcast collective

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whatever it was um but they were gonna do their

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like you know we're welcoming the untrained eye

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into the family and here it comes and we had

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basically like uh you know a bicycle that we

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hooked up to the internet and just pedaled her

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as hard as we could and uh yeah it didn't we

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literally you saw a freeze frame of our face

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and that's all you got out of us literally we

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couldn't do it our internet could not handle

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it and we had to we literally had to upgrade

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internet so that we could be on the internet

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We were barely above dial up, I think. Oh, damn.

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Jeez. And look at us now. 17 years strong with

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the all bros. I've become the third co -host.

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I've beaten out, you know, Vic. I appreciate

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you. I hope you're listening. I love you very

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much. I win. uh that one that one uh shithead

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that that ruined the scott pilgrim uh grade go

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to hell sir i don't even know your name and i

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don't care what it is you suck you suck you're

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the worst uh yeah i don't think he's we've outlived

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a lot of podcasts because like freaking i mean

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Unless he's doing his behind -the -paywall shit

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anymore. No. You know how I can tell you that

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for sure and for certain? I pay that son of a

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bitch $3 .95 a month for shit. I literally get

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jacked. That's crazy. He's doing it out of the

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kindness of your heart at this point. I don't

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even get a monthly text from him or anything.

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I'm just paying him $4 just to be like, here's

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$4. Do with it what you will. Yeah, we outlived

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him. We outlived... At this point, the freaking

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Plunge, because the Plunge hasn't done shit for

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a while. Every Inner Circle podcast, none of

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them exist anymore, no matter what they tell

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you. That's not true. Ben still does stuff. Oh,

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Ben does. Okay. And the Hood Diner release every

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once in a while, too. Go ahead and tell me the

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last release on that one, bud. No, I'm sorry.

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I was sorry because Ben, I forgot because Ben

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took some time off. And he is back again, strong,

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uh, out there being angry, being the angry dad

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we know and love man. Yeah. So Ben, Ben holding

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it down for the inner circle. Maybe one day the

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untrained eye will come back. Uh, Bethany says,

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hello. She loves you guys. Uh, thank you. We

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love her too. Yeah. So nice hood diners. Last

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episode was October 17th. Of what year? This

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year. I'm sorry, what? Really? Yeah. Wait a minute.

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Oh, you know what? I remember when I went on

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my tirade, like everyone I knew, I'm like, fuck

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Spotify. All they are is ads. I'm getting rid

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of that piece of garbage. And I went on, what

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is it? What am I on now? Pod something. Who cares?

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I'm on a different podcast streaming service.

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I guess the hood diner did not make it. I'm going

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to have to change that because I completely missed

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that episode. What was the one before that one?

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October 17th this year. What was the one before

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that? The one before that was October 10th. I

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quit. No, it's the 21st of August. Well, I guess

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September, October. All right. Well, homie Kaz,

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if you hear this, love you. Keep releasing them.

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Yeah. I mean, they were doing so. Let's see.

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They had. So this is going back to 2024. They

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released one episode on the 14th of October,

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2024. Then they did one the 13th of February

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of 25, 19th of March, 31st of March, 3rd of April,

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3rd of May. You're literally beating dead horses.

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All right, listen, the inner circle's dead. Ben,

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as usual, is carrying us. The untrained eye may

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or may not come back. It's probably not coming

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back. But I just, I can't not hold out hope.

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I just, I'm here. I clearly like podcasting.

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So maybe one day, but probably not. But maybe,

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but probably not. You know, DJ, this is what

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you should do. Since the Gacy Gazette is over,

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the untrained eye should come back now. That

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should be your motive. Listen, well, you know,

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bring back maybe you should bring back the Gacy

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Gazette and we will take that as our cue to rise

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from the dead. Dude, I don't know what else to

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do with it. I made a big deal about the finale.

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Why would I come back now? By the way, that would

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definitely be hilarious. If you did, you're like,

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anyways, guys, I'm back. I mean, the Gacy Gazette

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could just be just that. It could be like, hey,

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this is some cool stuff John Wayne Gacy would

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probably love. This guy here murdered a guy and

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he used his intestines as a belt. That was pretty

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neat. Gacy wasn't Gaynor Dahmer. He didn't do

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that shit. Hey man, we're just talking about

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what a crazy guy might like. So if it flows into

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other crazy stuff, I don't think he's going to

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like get you for liable or something. Like I

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actually hated in test and play. That was one

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thing I hated the most. hi i'm john wayne gacy

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and i only like to kill kids okay i'm not a monster

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see this is exactly why he didn't get a season

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a monster they took him and put him on a his

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own peacock show which glad they did because

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that show did the whole story and that kind of

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series a lot better no offense to monster maybe

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a little bit a little bit of monster he was just

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he was a boring serial serial killer you know

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he was like the he was like a boring tiger king

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of serial killing uh see what see the best people

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freaking to i guess like to make him more interesting

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they made him the killer clown even though there's

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no proof no physical proof that he killed any

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of those boys as dressed as pogo like he liked

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to separate that part of him from I love that

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he's like, I do have lines. Pogo is how I release,

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I showcase the good side of John. There's the

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good side and the bad side. Listen, the killer

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is John Wayne Gacy. I'm just John Gacy when I'm

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Pogo the Clown. My friends call me Johnny G and

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I'm a pretty cool guy. If you get to know me,

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you know, if you're over the age of 18, we're

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probably going to get along just great. uh that's

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what you can call it there you go the the next

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iteration johnny g and the boys uh trying to

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have a laugh about all the stuff john wayne gacy

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did as much as you possibly can before it starts

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to feel no I'm sorry. I didn't say the full idea.

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We're not going to talk about the murder. Johnny

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G and the boys is not about the murders at all.

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It's just about like the philanthropy that he

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did, all the construction work, like, you know,

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the good stuff. Everything he did for his community.

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Yeah. Yeah. This is like people forget about

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the good stuff that he did. You know, he had

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a couple of bad days and people want to make

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a bunch of documentaries. Can I just call it

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just John? Would that be okay? Just John. But

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both J's have to be lowercase. You don't want

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to make it too intense. Yeah, there we go. How

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crazy of a show would that be if all you did

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was go and review his craftsmanship? Especially

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for someone who didn't know who he was. They're

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like, John Gacy. Like that sounds familiar. I

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wonder if they're talking about old John. Dude,

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if I, if that ever happened, I would totally

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reach out to James and be like, dude, can you

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at least do one episode? Dude, that's a travel

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show. That is something that you do. You pitch

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to TLC and be like, we're going to hit up. Like,

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we have the documentation of everywhere that

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he was. We'll just go to each address, and we

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will go and do, like, amazing work. Amazing work.

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This guy does not get the full credit that he

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deserves. Just, you know, I think this is how

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three nobodies get canceled. I mean, it's a good

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thing. I shut Gacy Gazette down. All right. Oh,

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my gosh. What's the final episode releases? Killer.

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That's it. Killer contractor. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,

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my God. Killer contractor. We're actually going

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to what we're going to do. We're not going to

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go to the places that he went. That would be

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that would be morbid. What we're going to do

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is we're going to like. rebuild the things that

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he made and we're gonna see like how good his

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blueprints were we're gonna see if they were

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like you know i mean freaking i mean ryan was

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able to acquire a bunch of pdm contractors um

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i don't know if he got any blueprints he might

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have but he got a bunch of receipts stuff like

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that so shit he might have that stuff i'll reach

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out maybe we can get all the people that live

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there and be like hey like go through his stuff

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be like It seems here that you had your bathroom

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remodeled in, I don't know, the 80s? It would

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be the 70s. The fact that you think people that

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live in those houses would answer the phone to

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anybody at this point, because you think we're

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the first idiots that have been like, let's call

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the John Wayne Gacy houses and see if we can

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look at their miter work on the inside. No. Look

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at what people do to the Breaking Bad house.

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That lady is like a step away from killing people.

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Dude, freaking I couldn't imagine if the Neeson

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Pharmacy was still open. I can't imagine how

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much publicity that place would get because I

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think it was shut down in the early 80s. It closed

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down and then it became a daycare center. And

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then it was a couple other things, but I think

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now it's just an abandoned building. shit yeah

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but like imagine just going in there and being

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like you know what what john did was horrible

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but i mean look at how i remodeled this pharmacy

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wow amazing did he have an understudy an apprentice

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anything something somebody we could uh get in

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touch with um i mean one young man in his life

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that he didn't kill You never know. All right,

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wait, I do have, I have a, well, no, this is

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going to be too far of a left turn. Anyway, John

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Wayne Gacy guys, not so bad or pretty terrible.

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It's up to you to decide. Definitely don't listen

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to any of the media coverage or physical proof

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that we have about the guy. It is up to you to

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decide how you really feel about, you know, Yeah,

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Bob, whatever. I was trying to make a Bob Vila

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joke, and I don't even know if I get it, let

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alone anyone else listening to this. All righty.

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Well, sorry. Back on track. Let's say we get

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into this episode, shall we? Oh, which I don't

00:17:14.390 --> 00:17:16.069
think we mentioned yet. We're going to be breaking

00:17:16.069 --> 00:17:19.309
down Iron Man. That was like what we were going

00:17:19.309 --> 00:17:22.819
to do as our special birthday episode. because

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Rose and I have been doing our homework, and

00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:30.599
we have finally watched and rated every single

00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.700
MCU movie. The only one left is the movie that

00:17:33.700 --> 00:17:36.319
we're breaking down tonight, which is Iron Man.

00:17:36.859 --> 00:17:42.400
Woo, let's go. Oh, my God. I just watched Fantastic

00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.779
Four, so now I can finally listen to your guys'

00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:51.769
breakdown of that. Man. Is that good or bad?

00:17:53.329 --> 00:17:56.230
You know what it was? If I had to give a quick

00:17:56.230 --> 00:18:01.309
rating to that, I would give it a solid C. It

00:18:01.309 --> 00:18:05.190
was a movie. I saw it. I was there. It happened.

00:18:05.369 --> 00:18:09.849
There was a beginning, middle, and end. You know?

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You know what? I'll admit. I think I was a little

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too high on my personal score with that one.

00:18:15.660 --> 00:18:18.259
I was just on a Fantastic Four high. I'm like,

00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.740
finally, we got a good -ass Fantastic Four movie.

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So I'm freaking shooting my personal score to

00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.819
the stars with that. No, listen, I will just

00:18:26.819 --> 00:18:29.380
say, as someone who's been on this show many

00:18:29.380 --> 00:18:34.539
times and has shot a little too quick off the

00:18:34.539 --> 00:18:41.259
hip, I can say... For sure that the way for me,

00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.920
at least to do this show is how I did it this

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time, which was hurriedly watch the movie right

00:18:48.099 --> 00:18:50.279
before I thought the show was going to happen

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and then have a week to like ruminate on it and

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then watch like a quick summary on YouTube of

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what the movie was and then go, okay. Cause like

00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:04.440
I talked to Caleb last week. And like I had a

00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:05.859
kind of a different opinion that I'm going to

00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:11.180
come with now for this movie. But yeah, I was

00:19:11.180 --> 00:19:13.720
a little more dour on the whole thing. And now

00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:17.099
I'm kind of like I not not the whatever, whatever.

00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.420
We're doing the movie. I'm not going to tell

00:19:18.420 --> 00:19:21.099
you my whole thing now. I loved it or I hated

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this is the second time that we've played these

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games. We could probably do, because we get off

00:20:22.369 --> 00:20:26.109
track crazy easy. we could maybe do one of each

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okay not me i'm usually laser focused so yeah

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yeah so the first game that we will play is going

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to be real to real um so for those of you that

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are new and are may not be familiar with these

00:20:47.650 --> 00:20:54.890
rules um real to real the rule is Chat GPT is

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going to give us an actor and a movie that they

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star in. Our job is to go around. And so it'll

00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:09.950
go. It'll be me first, then DJ, then Rose, and

00:21:09.950 --> 00:21:13.829
then back around to me. And we'll circle that.

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So the rule is you have to take someone else

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that was in whatever the starting movie is. For

00:21:21.269 --> 00:21:26.470
example. We had Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow.

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That was like one of the examples. So you have

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to take another actor from Edge of Tomorrow and

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basically create like a chain link. Was there

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even another famous person in that movie? I don't

00:21:39.609 --> 00:21:46.410
think so. Tom Cruise. Who's that? The Scientology

00:21:46.410 --> 00:21:51.549
guy? The religious man? Definitely not that Mission

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Impossible Top Gun guy. Definitely not him. All

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right, so we'll play that. So the movie that

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we are going to be starting out with is... Oh,

00:22:05.009 --> 00:22:07.970
shit. Viola Davis and Fences. I haven't seen

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Fences. uh wait who is it wait okay do we how

00:22:13.180 --> 00:22:16.079
do you find out who was in the movie like how

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is this verified how is it verified uh can i

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just say anything because i think uh it's kind

00:22:24.299 --> 00:22:26.759
of based off trust like we just hope that you're

00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:30.160
telling the truth so i i have not seen fences

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so i don't know i don't have any reference for

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this movie has anyone else seen fences i have

00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.539
I haven't, but I do know one other actor that

00:22:39.539 --> 00:22:42.279
is in it. OK, so do you want to start this round

00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.720
then? And then back to me, then you. Sure. OK,

00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:47.859
so I'm just naming another actor. That's another.

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So someone from Fences and another movie that

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they've been in. OK, Denzel Washington. I knew

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it. The Magnificent Seven. Oh, the Magnific...

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Oh, Jesus. Wasn't it like the Hateful Eight?

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Like, I don't think... I don't... Was... I don't

00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:22.849
think he was in Magnificent Seven. I swear that

00:23:22.849 --> 00:23:31.470
he was. I think he was in Training Day. I'm calling

00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:37.789
bullshit on that. Does he win the round if you

00:23:37.789 --> 00:23:41.930
call bullshit? Oh, son of a bitch he was. He

00:23:41.930 --> 00:23:47.670
was the main guy. The main guy. By the way, it's

00:23:47.670 --> 00:23:49.970
hilarious because Denzel Washington is almost

00:23:49.970 --> 00:23:53.630
always going to be the main guy in whatever movie

00:23:53.630 --> 00:23:58.089
he's in. Rarely is he a secondary character.

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I think he is one in Gladiator 2, but he's still...

00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:05.049
you still think he's a main character for how

00:24:05.049 --> 00:24:08.569
fricking prominent he is. Yeah. By the way, weirdly,

00:24:08.589 --> 00:24:11.809
who is the James Earl Jones plays that the Denzel

00:24:11.809 --> 00:24:14.250
Washington character in like the play, which

00:24:14.250 --> 00:24:16.609
I've seen for whatever reason, tech talk will

00:24:16.609 --> 00:24:21.289
show me like parts of that play with James Earl

00:24:21.289 --> 00:24:27.089
Jones doing that. So anyway, sorry. Hateful eight.

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Sorry. Magnificent Seven, Caleb. Okay, so Magnificent

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Seven. I mean, you kind of cheated because you

00:24:36.140 --> 00:24:47.220
just looked at everyone. I know. Let's go Chris

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Pratt in Guardians. Man, I wish I knew the name

00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:58.109
of that stupid ass movie that Gamora was in where

00:24:58.109 --> 00:25:01.109
they're like singing about operating on someone

00:25:01.109 --> 00:25:07.430
who's trans or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that

00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:10.289
movie beat out freaking Wicked last year. Oh,

00:25:10.329 --> 00:25:15.410
my God. That pissed me the hell off. Oh, God.

00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:22.720
What is his name? Oh, frick. What is his name?

00:25:22.940 --> 00:25:27.140
What is what? What is Yondu's name? Damn it.

00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.920
Anyway, I don't remember his name. So I'm going

00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:39.319
to say I'm going to say Bradley Cooper in that

00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:43.960
movie called Limitless. Was that him in Limitless?

00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:53.920
Yep. I've never seen Limitless. uh that's a tough

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.619
one because i don't even know if i could do that

00:25:55.619 --> 00:25:58.579
and i recently watched limitless because you

00:25:58.579 --> 00:26:00.740
know i don't think anyone else is in that movie

00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:04.599
i think you have to be like well yeah dude i'm

00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.480
calling it i lose i i can't think of anybody

00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:12.859
else in that movie damn okay so so should we

00:26:12.859 --> 00:26:15.180
do this where it's like an elimination and then

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:18.289
just between me and you Okay, I mean, I'm going

00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:20.309
next, but go ahead. Yeah, we can do one more

00:26:20.309 --> 00:26:30.130
round. Okay. Because I can. I just remembered

00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:34.890
he was in this. Robert De Niro. And I'll throw...

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I'm out, but go ahead. There's no movie that

00:26:42.029 --> 00:26:43.970
you're going to say that I'm going to go. Oh

00:26:43.970 --> 00:26:45.869
yes. They were in there with Robert De Niro.

00:26:48.710 --> 00:26:53.650
I'll do the, the intern. The intern. Is that

00:26:53.650 --> 00:27:00.630
the one with, with Vince? What's his face? Why

00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:02.069
can't I say his name? I would keep wanting to

00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:05.130
say Vince McMahon. They're like interns at Google.

00:27:05.630 --> 00:27:09.210
That's the internship. All right. Yeah, I don't

00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:14.650
even know what the intern is. I thought that

00:27:14.650 --> 00:27:17.170
one would keep us going for a little bit because

00:27:17.170 --> 00:27:19.890
that one has Anne Hathaway. Yeah, you should

00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:22.250
have done like, I don't know, any movie where

00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:24.049
he was with Joe Pesci. And so I could have been

00:27:24.049 --> 00:27:29.930
like Home Alone, Joe Pesci. Wasn't he? I'm sure

00:27:29.930 --> 00:27:32.769
he was in The Irishman, right? I had never seen

00:27:32.769 --> 00:27:38.339
it, but yeah, he was. Should we do another round

00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:40.180
of this one or you guys want to do the other

00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:42.940
one? I'm good for either way. I say we do one

00:27:42.940 --> 00:27:46.420
more because I feel like you cheated specifically,

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:52.619
Caleb. You're like, let me check this. Let me

00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:56.240
check this Magnificent Seven movie. I just can't

00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.079
believe you didn't believe me, Caleb. What the

00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.420
hell? I know. Well, because I was trying to think.

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:02.799
I was just like, I don't think Denzel is in that

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.250
one. Well, if we're OK, how about this? If if

00:28:06.250 --> 00:28:09.930
the like, OK, say you're going to call bullshit

00:28:09.930 --> 00:28:14.450
on Rose again, then I have to look and and see

00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:16.849
since you're the one going next. I would have

00:28:16.849 --> 00:28:19.069
to. You know what I mean? Because that way I

00:28:19.069 --> 00:28:22.230
can't I can just confirm rather than be like,

00:28:22.269 --> 00:28:26.190
I know everything now. Like, OK, fair enough.

00:28:27.269 --> 00:28:32.230
All right. Next round. So DJ, we'll start this

00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:41.390
one out. Oops. And the movie you got is... I'm

00:28:41.390 --> 00:28:43.670
stressing out. Feel free to veto this one. Jake

00:28:43.670 --> 00:28:49.049
Gyllenhaal in Nightcrawler. Yeah, I'm going to

00:28:49.049 --> 00:28:52.430
veto that. I know there were other people in

00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:56.430
that movie, but I can't... He was too much the

00:28:56.430 --> 00:29:01.670
star of that movie to... Alright, let's try a

00:29:01.670 --> 00:29:05.369
different one. All right. Anne Hathaway, The

00:29:05.369 --> 00:29:10.410
Devil Wears Prada. Fucking Glenn Close and 101

00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:14.210
Dalmatians. I don't even know if it's Glenn.

00:29:14.329 --> 00:29:17.190
It's not Glenn Close, is it? What is her actual

00:29:17.190 --> 00:29:23.990
name? Is it? No, it's not. Oh. It's the other

00:29:23.990 --> 00:29:26.349
one. So Caleb would have to check and say, well,

00:29:26.349 --> 00:29:29.089
you know, it's not her. Wait, what is it? Oh.

00:29:29.890 --> 00:29:35.269
Oh. Oh, yeah. No, it's not. the mama mia what's

00:29:35.269 --> 00:29:38.549
her name man i can see her dumb head she's in

00:29:38.549 --> 00:29:48.829
mama mia i i i can't i god i know you're gonna

00:29:48.829 --> 00:29:53.410
say her name and i'm gonna quit this show because

00:29:53.410 --> 00:29:58.250
i'm right right she was in mama mia right yep

00:29:58.250 --> 00:30:06.480
yeah why Why are you doing this to me? I knew.

00:30:06.539 --> 00:30:08.640
What did I tell you, Caleb? Back when you first

00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.779
instituted the first game, I was like, I know

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:14.039
all of these. And if I'm ever on this show again,

00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:20.119
I'm going to eat shit instantly. A whole plate

00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:28.039
just for me. I want to cheat so bad I could do

00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:33.900
it and you wouldn't even know. I don't know.

00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.420
I don't know. I'm sorry. Does someone want to

00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:40.460
steal? Can we institute a steal? I mean, Rose

00:30:40.460 --> 00:30:52.240
can. OK, yeah, sure. So Meryl Streep. I should

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.799
have just said Glenn Close and kept moving. I

00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.599
bet I could have convinced everyone it was Glenn

00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.779
Close if I didn't say anything. Caleb would have

00:30:59.779 --> 00:31:02.000
gone, hmm, I called bullshit on Rose, but I don't

00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:12.859
want to do that twice. Okay, so Meryl Streep,

00:31:12.859 --> 00:31:22.279
the prom. Bitch! I haven't seen that movie in

00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:30.000
forever, you asshole. Oh, shit. Makes you feel

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.059
better. This is now the second movie I've never

00:31:32.059 --> 00:31:37.440
heard of. The Intern and the Prom. All right,

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:45.519
here's softball. James Corden, Cats. Oh, wait,

00:31:45.579 --> 00:31:47.700
am I still in it? I figured I was just eliminated.

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:55.029
That was more of a steal. So you could still

00:31:55.029 --> 00:32:01.450
be in it. Idris Elba. Sonic 3. The Hedgehog 3.

00:32:04.109 --> 00:32:12.849
James Marsden. Hairspray. Wow. Bitch. You absolute

00:32:12.849 --> 00:32:16.200
bitch. I know two people in there, and you could

00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.440
be a real dick. I almost want to text you the

00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:24.839
dick move to you screwing me over. God damn it.

00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.579
Hairspray. Hairspray. There's one. I've never

00:32:29.579 --> 00:32:35.640
seen that. I've only seen trailers. John Travolta?

00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:43.380
Yes. Wild Hogs. Okay. Before we go with Tim Allen

00:32:43.380 --> 00:32:47.960
and toy story, I just want to say if you wanted

00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.380
to be a total dick, I'm pretty sure Ricky Lake

00:32:50.380 --> 00:32:53.140
was in that version of hairspray. So you could

00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:55.680
have just been like Ricky Lake in hairspray.

00:32:56.180 --> 00:32:58.779
Cause she was, we don't do repeats like that.

00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:02.130
No, no, no. It's not the same one. It's the original

00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:05.329
Hairspray. So it is actually a different movie.

00:33:05.789 --> 00:33:08.849
Yeah, he's right. She did cameo in it. I have

00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:12.230
no idea who was in that first one except her.

00:33:13.410 --> 00:33:20.329
I don't know who Ricky Lake is. And there you

00:33:20.329 --> 00:33:23.250
have it, ladies and gentlemen. Anyway, Tim Allen,

00:33:23.549 --> 00:33:32.819
Toy Story, the end. That's all I got. Tom Hanks.

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.200
Forrest Gump. I really thought you were going

00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.559
to say Turner and Hooch, and I was like, that

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:46.900
would have been the rudest answer. This one's

00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:51.779
pretty rude, too. Shit, what's his... There's

00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:55.559
only one guy. No, literally only one guy. I'm

00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:06.640
trying to remember her name. oh god jenny kudos

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.420
to you for thinking about uh jenny because i

00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:12.059
was thinking of another even i feel obvious more

00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:17.739
obvious um actor no even though very in it for

00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:21.340
just like one scene but like still wait what

00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:24.760
because i'm Can we give hints? I'm going to give

00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.659
a hint. I'm just going to say his. I thought

00:34:26.659 --> 00:34:29.719
you meant his mom. And I was like, yeah, that.

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.780
Oh, shit. That's a good one, too. I didn't. That's

00:34:33.780 --> 00:34:39.320
a damn good one. Oh, shit. I forgot her name.

00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:49.320
Oh, God. Wide open spaces, Caleb. I want to say

00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:54.380
it starts with an S. You would be right. You

00:34:54.380 --> 00:34:58.139
would be right. And then you would frolic after

00:34:58.139 --> 00:35:02.480
that. DJ is really dropping a good hint here.

00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:15.679
Love it. You guys are the worst. God, because

00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.829
I have the movie. I have. The movie. You never

00:35:19.829 --> 00:35:23.230
want to meet her where Bruce Wayne's parents

00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:29.550
got shot in a... Oh, Sally Fields. There you

00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:43.969
go. Okay. Yeah, Sally Fields in... I'll say Steel

00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:50.550
Magnolias. I was going to be a dick and say Smokey

00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:56.809
and the Bandit. I would have said Burt Reynolds

00:35:56.809 --> 00:36:02.570
and Cop and a Half. So what movie did you say?

00:36:03.110 --> 00:36:08.590
Steel Magnolias. Yeah. Julia Roberts was in that

00:36:08.590 --> 00:36:14.210
joint, right? All right. I'm sorry, but I'm going

00:36:14.210 --> 00:36:23.699
to go Aaron Brockovich. Yeah, I fold. I don't

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:30.679
even know who the fuck that is. I mean, I could

00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:37.099
go Mona Lisa smile if that would help. I don't

00:36:37.099 --> 00:36:39.420
even know if that was her or the other one. Who's

00:36:39.420 --> 00:36:43.219
the other like the cute lady? What is her name?

00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.800
She was in Speed. What is her name? Miss Congeniality.

00:36:47.820 --> 00:36:51.460
What is her name? Sandra Bullock. Oh, yeah. Sandra

00:36:51.460 --> 00:36:55.460
Bullock. Those two could be. It's possible they're

00:36:55.460 --> 00:37:03.239
the same person. Yeah. I've never seen. Was it

00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:06.780
Aaron Brockovich? Yeah. Aaron Brockovich. Yeah.

00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.699
The only guy that I recognize from that movie.

00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:12.820
I couldn't tell you his name. And even if I could,

00:37:12.940 --> 00:37:16.079
I couldn't tell you a thing he did besides that

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:23.420
movie. Damn, I might be out too. So, good job,

00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:28.219
DJ. Yeah, very nice, man. Double elimination.

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:37.619
All right. It's an asterisk since I had to get

00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:44.820
stolen from. All right. Next up, we could do

00:37:44.820 --> 00:37:48.380
a round of head -to -head. This is just basically

00:37:48.380 --> 00:37:52.179
listing off as many movies as we can that fall

00:37:52.179 --> 00:37:55.739
within a certain category. For example, the last

00:37:55.739 --> 00:37:58.599
one that we did that went on way too long was

00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.860
movies with a completely unnecessary sequel.

00:38:02.699 --> 00:38:08.400
All of them, for the most part. In the Marvel

00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:13.190
vein, every single Thor. Even the original Thor,

00:38:13.289 --> 00:38:14.809
you could say it was a sequel we didn't need.

00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:22.469
Damn. Yeah, rude. Hey, listen. Ragnarok was good,

00:38:22.610 --> 00:38:25.869
but really, of all the characters in Marvel,

00:38:26.050 --> 00:38:29.190
Thor probably needed his own movie the least

00:38:29.190 --> 00:38:33.230
of all of them. And by the way, know in your

00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:39.780
heart, I saw the Marvels. Anyway, go ahead. Alright,

00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:45.280
so Rose will kick this one off. So the category

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.800
is movies where the villain is actually kind

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:55.619
of right. Avengers Infinity War. You son of a

00:38:55.619 --> 00:39:14.440
bitch. Wait, whose turn is it? Mine. You know

00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:18.880
what? I'll say Spider -Man Homecoming. I wasn't

00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.659
totally on Spidey's team that... Wait, Homecoming

00:39:21.659 --> 00:39:25.440
was Mysterio? No, that was Vulture. Homecoming

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.239
was Vulture. Vulture. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:34.920
yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was trying to kill

00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.460
a kid, but, you know. Listen, did he take it

00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:41.539
too far? Yeah. But was he wrong in the first

00:39:41.539 --> 00:39:46.539
place? I don't think so. I mean, initially, no.

00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.000
I mean, Thanos, I feel like you could make a

00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:54.199
pretty strong case for him almost the whole way

00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:59.550
through. uh i'm just gonna go killmonger uh i

00:39:59.550 --> 00:40:01.170
don't remember which black panther he was in

00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:03.550
if it was the first one or not but well what

00:40:03.550 --> 00:40:08.610
am i talking about the first one it was you know

00:40:08.610 --> 00:40:11.670
what's funny i really keep in my mind you know

00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:13.630
people to i hate when people are like mandela

00:40:13.630 --> 00:40:17.130
effect my mandela effect as i i if you told me

00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:18.909
there was three black panther movies i'd be like

00:40:18.909 --> 00:40:21.730
yeah there definitely were but i honestly i think

00:40:21.730 --> 00:40:26.309
i'm i think i am uh making him more prominent

00:40:26.309 --> 00:40:28.909
in civil war or was it civil war which one is

00:40:28.909 --> 00:40:31.389
it was it civil war or was it uh winter soldier

00:40:31.389 --> 00:40:35.429
that the black panther was in like semi -prominently

00:40:35.429 --> 00:40:40.050
uh civil war okay yeah i think i'm i'm making

00:40:40.050 --> 00:40:44.389
his character much more than it was uh in that

00:40:44.389 --> 00:40:48.289
movie because his anyway killmonger black panther

00:40:48.289 --> 00:40:54.150
the first and only black panther Or wait, not

00:40:54.150 --> 00:40:56.750
Killmonger. Yeah, I know. Killmonger. Sorry.

00:40:56.869 --> 00:41:04.050
Go ahead. I'm trying to think of any horror movies

00:41:04.050 --> 00:41:08.809
that you can side with the killer. It's kind

00:41:08.809 --> 00:41:12.670
of hard. I don't know about that. Friday the

00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:17.769
13th. Dude, I was thinking that one. He was drowned

00:41:17.769 --> 00:41:25.360
at Camp Crystal Lake. just because the camp counselors

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.440
weren't watching him. Can you blame Jason for

00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.360
coming back and killing him? Yeah, he didn't

00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.639
choose to come back. He wanted to cross over.

00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:39.039
I bet if you asked the boy, Jason, if he wanted

00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.280
to cross over and meet God, he'd be like, yeah.

00:41:41.619 --> 00:41:44.559
Like, hey, did you want to become an unkillable

00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.460
teenage killing monster? Like, no, I absolutely

00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:52.949
did not. Tough tits. That's what your mom wants

00:41:52.949 --> 00:41:58.349
you to become. This is your life now, Jason.

00:42:01.389 --> 00:42:05.110
Shit. Yeah, I'm struggling because I'm like,

00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:10.170
man, if you get one and Caleb gets one, I'm for

00:42:10.170 --> 00:42:16.449
sure out. I got one locked and loaded. Shit,

00:42:16.449 --> 00:42:24.139
man. I don't know if I have one. yeah i got nothing

00:42:24.139 --> 00:42:29.780
i'm out really yeah i got nothing okay well i

00:42:29.780 --> 00:42:32.920
guess my final one i was gonna say transformers

00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:38.059
one one wait is that the animated the animated

00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:41.039
one have you seen that one yet no i'm not oh

00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.179
shit that's yeah that's a good one so that's

00:42:44.179 --> 00:42:48.400
the one that made me side with megatron hardcore

00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:56.239
um so so megatron and like so optimus and megatron

00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:58.739
are like buddy buddy they go on an adventure

00:42:58.739 --> 00:43:01.699
and they find out that that basically the high

00:43:01.699 --> 00:43:06.639
elite people have stolen the transformer cores

00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:11.059
from basically everyone on cybertron as children

00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:15.739
and they think that like they're like they have

00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:17.719
like they're the people that they look up to

00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:23.949
the primes And the one that Megatron looks up

00:43:23.949 --> 00:43:27.929
to turns out to be a huge freaking dickhead about

00:43:27.929 --> 00:43:31.130
it. And so Megatron's like, all right, well,

00:43:31.210 --> 00:43:34.809
let's freaking basically end their reign. And

00:43:34.809 --> 00:43:38.010
Optimus is like, no, we can't do that. We just

00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:43.190
got to free. Basically, they went about giving

00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:49.110
people the core back. like in a different way

00:43:49.110 --> 00:43:52.269
and i think i sided a little bit more with megatron

00:43:52.269 --> 00:43:57.510
because his burnout was so justified yeah by

00:43:57.510 --> 00:44:00.889
the way i do think i have one more uh thank you

00:44:00.889 --> 00:44:03.590
tiktok for showing me scenes of movies i fell

00:44:03.590 --> 00:44:06.650
asleep through uh the buzz lightyear movie being

00:44:06.650 --> 00:44:11.349
chief among them and uh i would say buzz lightyear

00:44:11.349 --> 00:44:14.989
old buzz lightyear wasn't really wrong. Like

00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:18.170
he did become Zerg or whatever, but like his

00:44:18.170 --> 00:44:20.929
logic wasn't really flawed. He's like, yeah.

00:44:20.989 --> 00:44:24.150
Okay, cool. She had a family or whatever. I mean,

00:44:24.170 --> 00:44:27.630
none of that, that's not real. Like if, if we

00:44:27.630 --> 00:44:29.849
go back to the beginning there, like that, that

00:44:29.849 --> 00:44:32.510
no one would be missed. Like he wasn't trying

00:44:32.510 --> 00:44:34.289
to hurt anybody. He was just like, I'm trying

00:44:34.289 --> 00:44:36.889
to get back and get our timelines converged again.

00:44:37.369 --> 00:44:49.280
So buzz light year. Okay. Then I will steal another

00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:56.739
I feel easy one. I'll say Zemo from Civil War

00:44:56.739 --> 00:45:00.059
since we were talking about it earlier. You asshole.

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:06.320
That is such a good one. You know what? If the

00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:12.230
Avengers like were involved in the death of my

00:45:12.230 --> 00:45:18.010
family i would also plot to dismantle them i

00:45:18.010 --> 00:45:20.829
guy you can't argue with this logic like it's

00:45:20.829 --> 00:45:25.409
he's yeah and how about i forgot and speaking

00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:27.630
again of tiktok reminded me of things like a

00:45:27.630 --> 00:45:30.269
couple months ago i saw i forgot the end of that

00:45:30.269 --> 00:45:33.070
movie that he tries to kill himself and black

00:45:33.070 --> 00:45:36.230
panther is like no that's not really how that's

00:45:36.230 --> 00:45:38.829
gonna happen you're gonna you're gonna pay for

00:45:38.829 --> 00:45:46.349
this man that by the way that was some of like

00:45:46.349 --> 00:45:49.329
the most that whole that whole last scene was

00:45:49.329 --> 00:45:51.590
maybe probably some of the most high quality

00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:54.969
Marvel writing that there ever was. Cause I legitimately

00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:58.309
got, got like when he was listening to that,

00:45:58.309 --> 00:46:02.690
uh, that voicemail again, and you realize that

00:46:02.690 --> 00:46:05.269
they're dead, like his family is dead. And that

00:46:05.269 --> 00:46:09.409
is, he says as much. And you're like, Oh my God.

00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.460
this is terrible this all makes sense now uh

00:46:13.460 --> 00:46:16.960
and then he tries to kill himself like a that's

00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.920
way deeper and darker than i i think any marvel

00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.360
movie has ever gone before or since uh and again

00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.079
probably some of like the top five best writing

00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.340
or at least best scenes like in a marvel movie

00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:36.039
that was very good oh 100 yeah definitely all

00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:40.000
right you got another one Yeah, but I'm not going

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:45.599
to tell you what it is. I don't have anything.

00:46:47.699 --> 00:46:53.579
The Red Skull. He was right. Wait, no. Wasn't

00:46:53.579 --> 00:46:59.079
he a Nazi? You're going to have to walk us through

00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:05.460
your math on this one, buddy. I can't believe

00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:09.000
a nobody can get canceled twice. Guys, we're

00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.639
not associated with him. No, I forgot. By the

00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:19.659
way, I'm not going to say anymore. No, I vehemently

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:23.019
disagree with all of the Red Skull's thinkings

00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:26.760
and teachings. He has no redeemable qualities.

00:47:27.099 --> 00:47:42.010
The end. Unlike. so yeah I should have just said

00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:45.190
I'm out I never should have said anything I literally

00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:48.449
I looked at Captain America right here and was

00:47:48.449 --> 00:47:58.820
like who are his bad guys all right Should we

00:47:58.820 --> 00:48:02.900
do one more round of this one? I just don't want

00:48:02.900 --> 00:48:07.800
to say any more about Nazis, so we can try. All

00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.579
right. So DJ is going to start this one out.

00:48:11.139 --> 00:48:17.239
So your category is. That's hyper specific movies

00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:23.179
that hinge on a big misunderstanding. The wrong

00:48:23.179 --> 00:48:28.530
Missy. Boom! Beat that. That's a good one. That's

00:48:28.530 --> 00:48:35.030
a great one. That's literally the end of the

00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:38.829
movies I know like that. I got a good one locked.

00:48:40.530 --> 00:48:54.119
Oh, no. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Rose. Shit. Oh,

00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:57.639
my God. Do I not have any? Listen, I don't know

00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.880
where I found the wrong Missy. I was so deep

00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.960
down. I didn't know Meryl Streep's name, but

00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:13.440
I knew she was in Mamma Mia. So don't ask about

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.179
what is in the recesses of my own brain where

00:49:16.179 --> 00:49:19.119
I knew the wrong Missy within five seconds of

00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:23.320
that question being asked. shit i think i'm out

00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:30.619
of this one too sorry guys my guy all right um

00:49:30.619 --> 00:49:40.099
all right i had bullet train what is okay wait

00:49:40.099 --> 00:49:44.179
hold on wait a minute uh there's that movie with

00:49:44.179 --> 00:49:49.400
bryce dallas howard uh where she's like uh And

00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:53.760
what's his face? He's in Iron Man 2. The dancing

00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.619
guy. What's his name? Justin Hammer. He had my

00:49:56.619 --> 00:50:04.900
backup. Okay. I don't listen. I don't know the

00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:07.280
name of it. It's something like the book lady

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.820
or something. The, the, the right, the right

00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:14.420
list. I don't know. you can have it because i

00:50:14.420 --> 00:50:17.079
i don't know i know the movie clearly but i don't

00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:20.159
know i don't know the name of it even kind of

00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.619
because isn't uh henry cavill in it as well better

00:50:24.619 --> 00:50:33.389
known as wolverine his most famous role that's

00:50:33.389 --> 00:50:35.289
it that's all i got you literally you have all

00:50:35.289 --> 00:50:38.170
the information that i i have right now uh i

00:50:38.170 --> 00:50:39.590
don't know the name of the movie though yeah

00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:41.889
i know which movie you're talking about it's

00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:46.909
argyle argyle yeah that was the movie that looked

00:50:46.909 --> 00:50:49.630
so good and everyone unanimously said it was

00:50:49.630 --> 00:50:55.170
a fart in movie form it was actually kind of

00:50:55.170 --> 00:51:01.059
good it was A resounding review. It was kind

00:51:01.059 --> 00:51:05.920
of good. We did review that one. That's true.

00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.420
We did. Yeah. It seemed like you guys really

00:51:08.420 --> 00:51:14.320
enjoyed it. I think that movie is kind of like

00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.119
a fever dream because we watched that the weekend

00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.320
I flew out for that convention. And so literally

00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.199
I arrived, we go back to Caleb's house. We watched

00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.250
that, that movie. We're up until like. think

00:51:26.250 --> 00:51:28.750
what like past midnight and then we have to be

00:51:28.750 --> 00:51:31.489
up at like six o 'clock in the morning just to

00:51:31.489 --> 00:51:33.650
make sure that we get to that convention on time

00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:36.989
oh yeah i remember that because you guys talked

00:51:36.989 --> 00:51:39.289
about that on the show too right yeah was that

00:51:39.289 --> 00:51:47.269
on yeah uh argyle uh caleb wins again because

00:51:47.269 --> 00:51:53.739
he's a cheater Alright, should we go one more

00:51:53.739 --> 00:52:00.300
so Rose has a chance to win one? I'm gonna try.

00:52:02.500 --> 00:52:06.920
Movies that star a guy named Chris. Okay, this

00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:11.639
one should be easy for you, Rose. Okay. Movies

00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:23.789
with a memorable chase scene. Okay. Why am I

00:52:23.789 --> 00:52:26.289
blanking on this shit too? I mean, come on, dude.

00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:32.250
Serious? Yeah, man. There's like, I don't know,

00:52:32.329 --> 00:52:36.070
7 to 11 movies that you could name right now.

00:52:36.889 --> 00:52:40.269
Okay, wait. Who's going first? You are. Oh, I

00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:48.369
am? Oh, okay. My bad. Child's Play 2. That is

00:52:48.369 --> 00:52:51.050
the most hilarious. When Chucky's chasing Andy

00:52:51.050 --> 00:52:57.510
and Kylan, the good guy. factory okay um i will

00:52:57.510 --> 00:53:05.449
go uh sonic chasing shadow and sonic the hedgehog

00:53:05.449 --> 00:53:10.170
3. wow i have very much misunderstood what this

00:53:10.170 --> 00:53:12.949
was because i was thinking i'm like thinking

00:53:12.949 --> 00:53:17.860
all car chases and i thought the same thing okay

00:53:17.860 --> 00:53:20.380
but i'm just gonna say this i'm just gonna say

00:53:20.380 --> 00:53:23.440
i'm just gonna say one and then you guys can

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.159
just we can just name all 11 the fast and the

00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:33.960
furious yeah i think we i think we said uh with

00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.239
some of these like it could just be an entire

00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:39.960
franchise okay fine the fast and the fury the

00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:51.829
fast saga All right, Rose. Oh, I actually have

00:53:51.829 --> 00:53:54.849
a really good one. That's not a car chase scene.

00:53:55.090 --> 00:54:02.090
We. Oh, Michael Myers chasing Laurie Strode and

00:54:02.090 --> 00:54:07.869
Halloween H2O. Nice. Very nice. All right, let's

00:54:07.869 --> 00:54:13.170
see. Even though I haven't seen them, I will

00:54:13.170 --> 00:54:17.909
take the mission impossible movies. Ooh, damn.

00:54:19.349 --> 00:54:22.969
Uh, I get, well, okay. I guess I, I'm going to

00:54:22.969 --> 00:54:27.170
take then the new, the newer saga of, uh, the

00:54:27.170 --> 00:54:29.449
James Bond movies, but I was specifically thinking

00:54:29.449 --> 00:54:32.550
of like casino Royale guys. Don't those always

00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:35.510
start with like a fricking epic chase scene of

00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:37.809
him, like doing all kinds of crazy parkour and

00:54:37.809 --> 00:54:54.860
stuff all over the place. Yup. Yeah. I think

00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:59.719
it was the Dementors chasing Harry, Hermione,

00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:04.360
and Ron in Deathly Hallows Part 1. Ooh, that's

00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:15.300
a good one. Okay. Damn, I had one locked. I completely

00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:27.539
spaced it. Okay. I will say the ending chase

00:55:27.539 --> 00:55:32.659
scene from The Naked Gun. The most recent one

00:55:32.659 --> 00:55:40.440
where... Oh, shit. We lost DJ. Uh -oh. We'll

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.559
have to wait on that one and see what happens.

00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:47.599
Hey, there he is. Can you guys hear me? I just

00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.500
need a thumbs up. Yeah, we can hear you. You

00:55:51.500 --> 00:55:54.559
guys talk amongst yourselves while I figure this

00:55:54.559 --> 00:56:04.619
out. Okay. So do you think that one counts? It's

00:56:04.619 --> 00:56:07.809
a technical chase scene because he is... I mean,

00:56:07.829 --> 00:56:10.969
he's holding on to the owl. Yeah, I would count

00:56:10.969 --> 00:56:20.889
it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's DJ's turn now. You

00:56:20.889 --> 00:56:37.929
good, DJ? hey we're back jesus christ i'm so

00:56:37.929 --> 00:56:42.730
sorry you're good all right so the last one i

00:56:42.730 --> 00:56:45.989
said was what i'm listening i'm sorry oh i was

00:56:45.989 --> 00:56:47.949
just saying the last one that i did was the naked

00:56:47.949 --> 00:56:51.869
gun like the newest naked gun uh they have like

00:56:51.869 --> 00:56:54.070
a chase scene where he's like flying on an eagle

00:56:54.070 --> 00:57:02.219
or a owl i had one and now it's gone um Where

00:57:02.219 --> 00:57:06.360
I chased down my audio problems where I couldn't

00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:12.159
hear you guys and you could hear me. The podcast

00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:16.539
story. The story of being a podcaster. Audio

00:57:16.539 --> 00:57:18.960
doesn't want to do what it's supposed to be doing.

00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:26.599
The movie. Damn. Did anyone say Sonic yet? Can

00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:32.449
I use that again? Yeah, I said Sonic. All right.

00:57:34.110 --> 00:57:44.610
Oh, where Obi -Wan and Anakin are trying to chase

00:57:44.610 --> 00:57:49.590
down that assassin in, is it Revenge of the Sith?

00:57:50.809 --> 00:57:56.349
Or is it the other one? That's Clone Wars. Yes.

00:57:57.250 --> 00:58:02.900
Attack of the clones. Yeah. Yes. So that's the

00:58:02.900 --> 00:58:13.340
one I picked. Okay, guys. Um, when, so I think

00:58:13.340 --> 00:58:16.400
she's in it for just like a minute, but it's

00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:20.380
mostly Shaggy and Scooby when, um, Shaggy and

00:58:20.380 --> 00:58:24.219
Scooby are running from the skeleton men in Scooby

00:58:24.219 --> 00:58:27.820
-Doo two monsters unleashed. Ooh, that's awesome.

00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:37.960
I will say Toy Story when Woody and Buzz are

00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:41.460
chasing down the moving truck. That's a good

00:58:41.460 --> 00:58:44.760
one. That is a good one. I'm going to say Rebel

00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.619
Moon where they were chasing a good movie the

00:58:47.619 --> 00:58:51.059
whole time and never found it. They kept getting

00:58:51.059 --> 00:59:01.119
close. slipping through their fingers. And that

00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.139
is my legitimate answer. I think DJ takes it.

00:59:14.059 --> 00:59:21.159
That's it. That's really my answer. I got nothing.

00:59:21.300 --> 00:59:25.920
So if you don't accept that, I lose. That's up

00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.340
to Caleb. Do you accept it, Caleb? I accept it.

00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:34.219
all right um all right uh mike sully and boo

00:59:34.219 --> 00:59:36.980
when they're running through the doors from uh

00:59:36.980 --> 00:59:45.059
randall and monsters inc okay um i'll say a majority

00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:52.769
of baby driver wow okay that's that's good I

00:59:52.769 --> 00:59:54.590
don't know if you guys have ever seen this movie.

00:59:54.710 --> 00:59:56.989
There's a little movie called The Italian Job

00:59:56.989 --> 01:00:00.010
that made me want to get a Mini Cooper when I

01:00:00.010 --> 01:00:03.710
was a kid. That's a good one. That's a really

01:00:03.710 --> 01:00:20.739
good one. I got one more. So, when Shrek, Fiona,

01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.320
and Donkey are running from the dragon in Shrek.

01:00:24.340 --> 01:00:36.000
I dig it. Okay. Oh, shit. I just had one. Say

01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:49.440
Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner. Oh, God. God

01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:51.460
damn it. It was something DJ said that sparked

01:00:51.460 --> 01:00:57.639
this. The one I was thinking of. Was it when

01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:09.539
I said the Italian job? No. Oh. Indiana Jones.

01:01:10.340 --> 01:01:15.420
Oh. being chased by the the giant ass rock man

01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:20.619
excellent choice so i've got two one is technically

01:01:20.619 --> 01:01:24.940
it's it's in the same star wars averse but it's

01:01:24.940 --> 01:01:26.780
in a different trilogy so i'm going to count

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:31.199
it as a separate one and it is the one and only

01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:35.360
uh trench scene uh where he's trying to get uh

01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.780
he's trying to shoot that their proton torpedo

01:01:37.780 --> 01:01:43.710
down a mine shaft or whatever That's a good one.

01:01:43.869 --> 01:01:55.309
So I take it back. Now I've got one. When Bilbo

01:01:55.309 --> 01:01:59.949
is running from Smaug in The Desolation of Smaug.

01:02:03.309 --> 01:02:05.449
I was going to say like basically the entirety

01:02:05.449 --> 01:02:09.789
of the Lord of the Rings trilogy. It's just them

01:02:09.789 --> 01:02:11.630
being like, we got to run to this mountain. Put

01:02:11.630 --> 01:02:23.670
your ring in there. I will throw in Star Trek

01:02:23.670 --> 01:02:28.409
when they're running from the Romulans. Wow.

01:02:29.809 --> 01:02:32.880
All right. Uh, this is probably my last one,

01:02:32.980 --> 01:02:35.400
but it is widely considered to be like one of

01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.760
the greatest cinema car chases. Uh, and it is

01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:45.699
the car chase in heat, the movie heat. Ooh. Ooh.

01:02:45.820 --> 01:02:52.239
Yeah, that's a good one. Um, I'm going to say

01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:57.699
when, um, I'm trying to decide which one I want

01:02:57.699 --> 01:02:59.579
to go with because both are great chase scenes.

01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:06.920
I'm going to go with when Phoebe, Trevor, and

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:10.739
Podcast are chasing Muncher in Ghostbusters Afterlife

01:03:10.739 --> 01:03:13.400
and Ecto -1 is just flying through the streets.

01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:18.039
Oh, through the little town? Yeah. That's a good

01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:29.119
one. Okay. being chased down by the t -rex in

01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:36.400
jurassic park oh my god let's go faster man that

01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:43.079
is a top five for sure oh my god i'm trying to

01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.820
think of like a funny one or something like but

01:03:45.820 --> 01:03:47.659
you guys already took the freaking horror movie

01:03:47.659 --> 01:03:53.960
ones i'm thinking of uh let me think oh uh when

01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.659
When Harry chased Sally, when Harry met Sally,

01:03:58.780 --> 01:04:02.119
he was like, I'm going to get that Sally. And

01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:11.679
he chased her. The whole movie. Freaking in Scary

01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:14.880
Movie 2 when Cindy is running from the skeleton.

01:04:17.369 --> 01:04:20.530
freaking she comes up to brenda brenda we're

01:04:20.530 --> 01:04:22.630
gonna die i would have just met you if he would

01:04:22.630 --> 01:04:28.550
have just shut the fuck up by the way i am i

01:04:28.550 --> 01:04:33.019
don't care i am a big uh hater on you know properties

01:04:33.019 --> 01:04:35.260
that come back from the dead that don't need

01:04:35.260 --> 01:04:38.659
to but man i cannot wait to see this new scary

01:04:38.659 --> 01:04:42.199
movie uh now that the wands are back back on

01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.000
the back on the scene uh yeah it's gonna be fantastic

01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.599
and anna ferris is coming back what are we doing

01:04:48.599 --> 01:05:06.139
oh this is it's tough Okay, I'll throw in the

01:05:06.139 --> 01:05:12.019
scene where they're chasing Barbie from Barbie.

01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:19.300
Like in the Hasbro or the Mattel building. Yeah,

01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:24.780
that's a good one. Okay, here you go. when the

01:05:24.780 --> 01:05:27.579
police are chasing the wolf of wall street the

01:05:27.579 --> 01:05:30.300
whole time in the wolf of wall street and they

01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:34.539
just can't seem to get his ass uh and if you

01:05:34.539 --> 01:05:37.599
don't like that one who can that will that one

01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.679
count or is that is that a little a stretch too

01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:43.849
far because i got one i do have one I'll say

01:05:43.849 --> 01:05:47.309
because you already used that, like the stretch

01:05:47.309 --> 01:05:51.110
with Harry meets Sally. All right. All right.

01:05:51.190 --> 01:05:53.869
So the one I'll really say is Catch Me If You

01:05:53.869 --> 01:05:58.989
Can, starring one also Leonardo DiCaprio. That's

01:05:58.989 --> 01:06:06.590
a good one. That's a damn good one. I cannot

01:06:06.590 --> 01:06:08.849
believe I pulled that out of my ass. You're all

01:06:08.849 --> 01:06:16.460
very welcome. Leonardo chasing Nightwatcher,

01:06:16.500 --> 01:06:24.099
Raphael, and TMNT. Oh, you bastard. I just thought

01:06:24.099 --> 01:06:37.699
of that one, you asshole. God damn it. I think

01:06:37.699 --> 01:06:43.820
I'm tapped. Because I had one that was lazy that

01:06:43.820 --> 01:06:48.800
I wouldn't have counted. I was going to say Winter

01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:53.139
Soldier when Sam Wilson's chasing Captain America

01:06:53.139 --> 01:06:59.159
and just losing miserably, but I wouldn't. that's

01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.360
a cheap i mean you could always go civil war

01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:05.079
whenever uh black panther turned on the freaking

01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:10.039
nitrous and was like just running at a thousand

01:07:10.039 --> 01:07:18.489
miles per hour suddenly but yeah i'm tapped i'm

01:07:18.489 --> 01:07:21.070
tapped i had another funny one and then i just

01:07:21.070 --> 01:07:23.570
thought about how they actually did that scene

01:07:23.570 --> 01:07:26.289
where they had hit like what's this chadwick

01:07:26.289 --> 01:07:28.710
boseman like running on like a treadmill or something

01:07:28.710 --> 01:07:32.590
like a big long treadmill oh yeah going faster

01:07:32.590 --> 01:07:39.289
uh that was nuts by the way uh man i had so they

01:07:39.289 --> 01:07:42.989
they they ran on like the car that was in front

01:07:42.989 --> 01:07:48.039
it was like a long thing of like fabric That's

01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:49.920
what it was. So they could run on the fabric

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.400
instead. And so it made it look like they were

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:56.119
running way freaking faster. I watched that in

01:07:56.119 --> 01:08:03.659
an episode of Stuntman React. Yeah, so they had

01:08:03.659 --> 01:08:06.699
the stuntman on the episode that did that stunt.

01:08:07.389 --> 01:08:10.750
that's so awesome and he's like it was so hard

01:08:10.750 --> 01:08:14.150
like the practice for that was ridiculous it

01:08:14.150 --> 01:08:17.130
seems impossible like when you think of it you're

01:08:17.130 --> 01:08:19.430
like i don't know if that's even humanly possible

01:08:19.430 --> 01:08:23.710
like that i stuntmen will never get enough credit

01:08:23.710 --> 01:08:27.149
for what they do because they're like we have

01:08:27.149 --> 01:08:30.329
the because some idiot like me goes hey uh i'm

01:08:30.329 --> 01:08:33.050
gonna dangle a rug behind a car and you gotta

01:08:33.050 --> 01:08:36.260
run on it So anyway, I'm going to go over here

01:08:36.260 --> 01:08:38.260
and you just let me know when you find out how

01:08:38.260 --> 01:08:46.100
to rug run. Thanks. Bye. Yeah, I got nothing.

01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.819
Of course, when I say I tapped out, I think of

01:08:48.819 --> 01:08:52.239
another really good one. I mean, give an honorable

01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:56.720
mention. Let's see what's Rose got left in the

01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:59.279
tank. I don't think I got anything. Yeah, I'm

01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:02.100
tapped. Yeah, I think I'm tapped too. Well, Rose

01:09:02.100 --> 01:09:06.479
wins by default then. No, the one I was going

01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:11.060
to bring up was the Human Torch Silver Surfer

01:09:11.060 --> 01:09:16.560
chase. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah,

01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:25.020
damn. Wait, but which one? The OG. Well, no,

01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:27.560
it's a fight scene. I guess it's kind of a chase

01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.890
scene. You could go Spider -Man 2. When he's

01:09:30.890 --> 01:09:33.210
fighting Doc Ock. I guess he's kind of trying

01:09:33.210 --> 01:09:35.449
to get away from him. And Doc Ock's chasing him.

01:09:35.529 --> 01:09:38.949
It's more of a fight scene. Yeah. A chase scene.

01:09:39.069 --> 01:09:41.869
I just needed an excuse to talk about that. Anyway.

01:09:48.369 --> 01:09:53.069
I'm trying to think of another one. I mean in

01:09:53.069 --> 01:09:56.630
the same vein. The Silver Surfer. Like chasing

01:09:56.630 --> 01:10:01.939
down the Fantastic Four. in first step yeah that's

01:10:01.939 --> 01:10:10.680
pretty bitchin but dj has thoughts on that and

01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:14.859
listen the the movie was wildly okay like it

01:10:14.859 --> 01:10:20.159
was just not it was just not I believe when it

01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:22.960
before that movie came out, I said I was saying

01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:25.539
things like this has to be the thing that, you

01:10:25.539 --> 01:10:28.319
know, people go, all right. It wasn't just a

01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:31.180
fluke with Deadpool and Wolverine. Marvel's back,

01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:35.779
baby. And they resoundingly did not do that.

01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:40.100
So which, by the way, is I feel like exampled

01:10:40.100 --> 01:10:42.300
even further by this movie. We're about to break

01:10:42.300 --> 01:10:48.510
down because this like. Sorry, I just want to

01:10:48.510 --> 01:10:52.630
point out, what about Thunderbolts? Okay, so

01:10:52.630 --> 01:10:55.170
I'm one of those assholes that hasn't seen Thunderbolts

01:10:55.170 --> 01:11:01.149
yet. DJ, I told you I'm an asshole. No, you're

01:11:01.149 --> 01:11:05.630
not an asshole. Dude, do yourself a favor and

01:11:05.630 --> 01:11:08.729
watch Thunderbolts because me and Caleb would

01:11:08.729 --> 01:11:10.689
agree that's the best Marvel movie of the year.

01:11:10.810 --> 01:11:15.279
I watched... uh fantastic okay so i told beth

01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:17.060
i was like this is how i want to watch these

01:11:17.060 --> 01:11:19.720
three movies i want to watch fantastic four first

01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:23.720
because i heard it's wildly okay and i feel like

01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.000
we're not going to be disappointed in that uh

01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:32.100
and spoiler alert it was wildly okay uh and uh

01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:36.029
And then I want to watch Thunderbolts because

01:11:36.029 --> 01:11:38.789
that's also what I hear is that movie is great.

01:11:38.949 --> 01:11:42.329
It is more of the Marvel return to form. And

01:11:42.329 --> 01:11:44.390
then the last movie that I haven't seen that

01:11:44.390 --> 01:11:47.029
I am probably the most excited about is the newest

01:11:47.029 --> 01:11:49.869
Superman movie, which I feel like I'm going to

01:11:49.869 --> 01:11:53.069
enjoy the most out of all three of those. So

01:11:53.069 --> 01:11:57.670
I want to end. Yeah. I want to end on something

01:11:57.670 --> 01:11:59.630
sweet. I don't want to, I just knew I didn't

01:11:59.630 --> 01:12:01.229
want to start with Superman and be like, this

01:12:01.229 --> 01:12:03.350
was awesome. And then go watch fantastic four

01:12:03.350 --> 01:12:13.430
and be like, all right. Well with that, let's

01:12:13.430 --> 01:12:15.729
say we finally get into this breakdown. Shall

01:12:15.729 --> 01:12:41.250
we? Let's do it. to this week's breakdown if

01:12:41.250 --> 01:12:43.930
you are new to our breakdown system we have split

01:12:43.930 --> 01:12:46.729
movies into eight different categories that we

01:12:46.729 --> 01:12:50.970
individually score to come to a final i was gonna

01:12:50.970 --> 01:12:53.189
say all bros and untrained eye but at this point

01:12:53.189 --> 01:12:56.090
it's just you're just one of the all bros now

01:12:56.090 --> 01:13:03.270
yeah dj's it's an all bros yeah yeah yeah a final

01:13:03.270 --> 01:13:06.880
all bros uh letter grade The eight categories

01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:10.300
that we are going to be scoring are story, writing,

01:13:10.500 --> 01:13:14.300
acting, character development, effects, music,

01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.380
costumes, and then we're going to give it our

01:13:16.380 --> 01:13:19.479
own personal score at the very end. All these

01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:21.500
numbers are going to get magically added up and

01:13:21.500 --> 01:13:23.560
spit through our algorithm and give us a letter

01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:25.939
grade to compare this movie to others of a similar

01:13:25.939 --> 01:13:31.720
grade. And as a special added treat, I believe

01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:34.909
I've said this already. We did. me and rose did

01:13:34.909 --> 01:13:38.350
our homework we watched all of the mcu movies

01:13:38.350 --> 01:13:42.829
that we have not rated on the podcast yet and

01:13:42.829 --> 01:13:47.390
rated them uh kind of independently so because

01:13:47.390 --> 01:13:51.789
this is like our our celebratory eight year episode

01:13:51.789 --> 01:13:59.029
um yeah so we finally have an official mcu ranking

01:13:59.029 --> 01:14:06.750
for every like mcu movie or after this one so

01:14:06.750 --> 01:14:08.630
we'll enter our scores for this and then we'll

01:14:08.630 --> 01:14:13.229
have an official mcu ranking that should be quite

01:14:13.229 --> 01:14:16.489
fun to watch hard to look at because there are

01:14:16.489 --> 01:14:19.250
some of the scores that i have already seen just

01:14:19.250 --> 01:14:22.979
because i i have the way that i do the categorization

01:14:22.979 --> 01:14:28.859
uh kind of wild yeah yeah to the surprise of

01:14:28.859 --> 01:14:34.439
no one you're we're gonna get when we give this

01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:38.300
final ranking i'm sure i am going to throw my

01:14:38.300 --> 01:14:40.600
chair or something by the end because there's

01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.020
gonna be i predict two movies that i'm like how

01:14:44.020 --> 01:14:47.520
how did they make to this to this point there's

01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:50.859
no way they should be this low or this high and

01:14:50.859 --> 01:14:56.159
i'm betting It's going to be this high. Shit.

01:14:57.020 --> 01:15:02.800
It's going to be the Thor movies. Surprisingly,

01:15:02.899 --> 01:15:06.000
I don't think either or any of them are that

01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.479
high. But we will see. That is spoilers for later.

01:15:14.460 --> 01:15:17.939
So, kicking things off. If you have not seen

01:15:17.939 --> 01:15:23.170
Iron Man. Where the hell have you been? Yeah,

01:15:23.170 --> 01:15:27.069
seriously. It has been out for the past, what,

01:15:27.090 --> 01:15:30.529
13 years? It's not like it started the MCU or

01:15:30.529 --> 01:15:33.510
anything. I'm pretty sure it's older than my

01:15:33.510 --> 01:15:38.170
youngest nephew. So there you go. Yeah, because

01:15:38.170 --> 01:15:43.649
it came out in 2008. Yep. Same year as The Dark

01:15:43.649 --> 01:15:49.689
Knight. Wow, really? Yep. By the way, may I just

01:15:49.689 --> 01:15:52.189
give you one little tidbit? When this movie came

01:15:52.189 --> 01:15:56.069
out, I was a very I was the most judgmental asshole

01:15:56.069 --> 01:15:58.569
that you could ever imagine. I know. Shocking.

01:15:59.289 --> 01:16:06.229
But I know I know it's a real departure from

01:16:06.229 --> 01:16:11.029
who I am sitting here today, but I was like.

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:16.260
a raw or robert downey jr he is a drug addict

01:16:16.260 --> 01:16:20.380
and a bad person and we cannot be watching robert

01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:23.239
downey jr movies especially when there are comic

01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.979
book movies of a character no one's ever heard

01:16:25.979 --> 01:16:29.880
of and do you know what got me to watch this

01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:33.640
movie we went and saw Beth wanted to see the

01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.560
movie Sherlock Holmes starring Robert Downey

01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.079
Jr. And we went and watched that movie and it

01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:43.260
was so good. I swear to you, this is what happened.

01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.840
We left the theater. I went to Walmart to the

01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:52.000
like the five dollar bin. I bought a $5 copy

01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.720
of Iron Man on DVD and I went home and watched

01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.899
it and was like, oh my God, this movie's amazing.

01:17:00.779 --> 01:17:06.500
Literally, I'm like, what was I thinking? Dude,

01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:11.800
so I think I've shared it a couple times on this.

01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:16.100
This was not my first introduction to Robert

01:17:16.100 --> 01:17:22.079
Downey Jr. My first introduction to him was in

01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:29.239
Tropic Thunder, where I was. I believed wholeheartedly

01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:36.439
that he was a black man. And when I went, I went

01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:39.539
into Iron Man and like I hadn't seen anything

01:17:39.539 --> 01:17:42.300
about Iron Man other than like MCU. And I was

01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:44.199
like, cool, I want to see this. I want to go

01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.810
in blind. It was like one of the last movies

01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:51.310
I went in blind to and I was like, OK, cool.

01:17:51.449 --> 01:17:54.489
And so I was reading up on the character of Iron

01:17:54.489 --> 01:17:57.109
Man and just trying to figure out who he was

01:17:57.109 --> 01:17:59.289
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like,

01:17:59.369 --> 01:18:01.109
oh, man, it's kind of weird that they're race

01:18:01.109 --> 01:18:05.789
swapping him. But I'm like, especially when he

01:18:05.789 --> 01:18:09.869
has a friend that is essentially a black Iron

01:18:09.869 --> 01:18:15.810
Man. with with Rhodes I never saw a black guy

01:18:15.810 --> 01:18:20.609
do white face that's what I thought dude and

01:18:20.609 --> 01:18:24.930
that's the craziest part is I thought that Robert

01:18:24.930 --> 01:18:28.390
Downey Jr. at the beginning of Tropic Thunder

01:18:28.390 --> 01:18:31.569
I thought he was I thought he was doing white

01:18:31.569 --> 01:18:35.189
face because I'm like this guy looks funky dude

01:18:35.189 --> 01:18:38.210
and then Tropic Thunder might have been the perfect

01:18:39.630 --> 01:18:42.449
satire movie. I don't know that there will ever

01:18:42.449 --> 01:18:45.550
be a better movie that does satire than that.

01:18:45.710 --> 01:18:50.710
It set itself up perfectly. It might be... It's

01:18:50.710 --> 01:18:55.050
up there in perfect movie category. It's so good.

01:18:55.149 --> 01:18:58.810
It's so well written. It's an amazing movie.

01:19:02.050 --> 01:19:06.149
It's a great freaking movie, dude. It holds up

01:19:06.149 --> 01:19:10.909
so well. I just checked, by the way, Iron Man

01:19:10.909 --> 01:19:14.069
and Tropic Thunder came out the same year. Dude,

01:19:14.909 --> 01:19:19.529
2008, 2009 was an amazing time to be watching

01:19:19.529 --> 01:19:25.710
movies. Dude, for real. Didn't we get Thor? Or

01:19:25.710 --> 01:19:30.189
no, we didn't get Thor until 2009, right? No,

01:19:30.229 --> 01:19:34.289
Thor was 2011. Oh, okay. So Incredible Hulk came

01:19:34.289 --> 01:19:39.970
out in 2008, too. Yes. Yep. So we had iron man

01:19:39.970 --> 01:19:43.869
and incredible Hulk. Wow. That was too. Jesus

01:19:43.869 --> 01:19:49.210
Christ. 2008 was crazy. Yeah. I'm just blown

01:19:49.210 --> 01:19:52.630
away. The dark night is also that old. Uh, yeah,

01:19:53.810 --> 01:19:57.529
yeah, man. Heath Ledger gone too soon. RIP the

01:19:57.529 --> 01:20:05.250
goat. Uh, yeah. So for those of you that have

01:20:05.250 --> 01:20:09.069
not seen iron man, you're an idiot yeah rose

01:20:09.069 --> 01:20:12.670
is about to spoil the entire movie for you in

01:20:12.670 --> 01:20:18.750
our favorite segment that we like to call reading

01:20:18.750 --> 01:20:25.729
with rose so without further ado rose would you

01:20:25.729 --> 01:20:30.079
like to take it away i'd love to Tony Stark,

01:20:30.220 --> 01:20:32.399
who has inherited the defense contractor Stark

01:20:32.399 --> 01:20:34.739
Industries from his late father, Howard Stark,

01:20:34.939 --> 01:20:38.119
tours in war -torn Afghanistan with his best

01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:41.020
friend and military liaison, James Rhodey Rhodes.

01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:44.319
to demonstrate the new Jericho missile. After

01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:46.460
the demonstration, his convoy is ambushed by

01:20:46.460 --> 01:20:48.640
a terrorist group, the Ten Rings, and Stark is

01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.039
gravely wounded by a missile used by the attackers,

01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:54.039
one of his company's own. He is captured and

01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:56.420
imprisoned in a cave by the Ten Rings. Jensen,

01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.060
a fellow captive and doctor, implants an electromagnet

01:21:00.060 --> 01:21:03.520
into Stark's chest to keep the shrapnel shards

01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:05.199
that wounded him from reaching his heart and

01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:08.579
killing him. Ten Rings leader Raza offers Stark

01:21:08.579 --> 01:21:11.000
freedom in exchange for building a Jericho missile

01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.420
for the group, but he and Jensen believe that

01:21:13.420 --> 01:21:17.260
Raza will not keep his word. Stark and Jensen

01:21:17.260 --> 01:21:19.859
secretly build a small, powerful electric generator

01:21:19.859 --> 01:21:22.979
called an arc reactor to power Stark's electromagnetic

01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:26.640
and construct a prototype armored suit to aid

01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:30.350
in their escape. Although they keep the suit

01:21:30.350 --> 01:21:32.270
hidden, the Ten Rings discover their intentions

01:21:32.270 --> 01:21:35.409
and attack the workshop. Yinsen sacrifices himself

01:21:35.409 --> 01:21:38.510
to divert them while the suit powers up. The

01:21:38.510 --> 01:21:40.789
armored Stark battles his way out of the cave

01:21:40.789 --> 01:21:43.609
to find the dying Yinsen, then burns the Ten

01:21:43.609 --> 01:21:46.029
Rings' weapons and flies away, crashing in the

01:21:46.029 --> 01:21:49.210
desert and destroying the suit. After being rescued

01:21:49.210 --> 01:21:51.869
by Rhodes, Stark returns home and announces that

01:21:51.869 --> 01:21:53.890
his company will cease manufacturing weapons.

01:21:54.649 --> 01:21:57.069
Obadiah Stane, his father's old partner and the

01:21:57.069 --> 01:21:59.270
company's manager, advises Stark that this will

01:21:59.270 --> 01:22:01.829
bankrupt Stark Industries and ruin his father's

01:22:01.829 --> 01:22:04.649
legacy. In his home workshop, Stark builds a

01:22:04.649 --> 01:22:07.149
sleeker, more powerful version of his improvised

01:22:07.149 --> 01:22:09.750
armor suit as well as a more powerful arc reactor

01:22:09.750 --> 01:22:12.689
for it and his chest after testing a prototype.

01:22:13.909 --> 01:22:18.340
Oh shit. Sorry if we're going to just scroll

01:22:18.340 --> 01:22:29.060
to the top. Personal assistant Pepper Potts places

01:22:29.060 --> 01:22:32.300
the original reactor inside a small glass showcase.

01:22:32.739 --> 01:22:35.359
Though Stain requests details, a suspicious Stark

01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:44.539
decides to keep his work to himself. At a charity

01:22:44.539 --> 01:22:48.279
event, reporter Christine Everhart informs Stark

01:22:48.279 --> 01:22:50.439
that his company's weapons were recently delivered

01:22:50.439 --> 01:22:53.039
to the Ten Rings and are being used to attack

01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:56.060
Yinsen's home village. Stark dons his new armor

01:22:56.060 --> 01:22:58.359
and flies to Afghanistan, where he fends off

01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:00.939
the terrorists and saves the villagers. While

01:23:00.939 --> 01:23:03.060
flying home, Stark is intercepted by the Air

01:23:03.060 --> 01:23:05.619
Force. He reveals his secret identity to Rhodes

01:23:05.619 --> 01:23:08.039
over the phone to end the attack. Meanwhile,

01:23:08.260 --> 01:23:10.899
the Ten Rings gather the pieces of Stark's prototype

01:23:10.899 --> 01:23:13.739
suit and meet with Stane, who has been trafficking

01:23:13.739 --> 01:23:16.420
arms to the Ten Rings and has staged a coup to

01:23:16.420 --> 01:23:19.760
replace Stark as Stark Industries CEO by hiring

01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.279
the Ten Rings to kill him. He subdues Raza and

01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:27.220
has him and the rest of the group killed. Stain

01:23:27.220 --> 01:23:29.539
has a massive new armor suit reverse engineered

01:23:29.539 --> 01:23:33.140
from the wreckage. Seeking to track his company's

01:23:33.140 --> 01:23:35.300
illegal shipments, Stark sends Potts to hack

01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:39.000
into its database. She discovers that Stain hired

01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.159
the Ten Rings to kill Stark, but the group altered

01:23:41.159 --> 01:23:43.359
their plans when they realized they had a direct

01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:46.600
route to Stark's weapons. Potts meets with Agent

01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:48.659
Phil Coulson of S .H .I .E .L .D., an intelligence

01:23:48.659 --> 01:23:51.380
agency, to inform him of Stain's activities.

01:23:53.020 --> 01:23:55.920
Stain's scientists are unable to replicate Stark's

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:58.920
miniaturized arc reactor, so Stain enters Stark's

01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.140
home, stuns Stark, and steals the one from his

01:24:01.140 --> 01:24:04.340
chest. Stark manages to replace it with his original

01:24:04.340 --> 01:24:06.920
reactor. Potts and several S .H .I .E .L .D.

01:24:06.939 --> 01:24:09.260
agents attempt to arrest Stain, but he dons his

01:24:09.260 --> 01:24:12.060
suit and overpowers them. Stark fights Stain,

01:24:12.060 --> 01:24:14.800
but is outmatched without his new reactor to

01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.750
run his suit at full capacity. The fight carries

01:24:17.750 --> 01:24:19.890
Stark and Stain to the top of the Stark Industries

01:24:19.890 --> 01:24:22.609
building, where Stark instructs Potts to overload

01:24:22.609 --> 01:24:24.909
the large arc reactor powering the building.

01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:27.859
This unleashes a massive electrical surge that

01:24:27.859 --> 01:24:30.159
causes Stain to fall into the reactor, and he

01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:32.800
is killed in the explosion. The next day at a

01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:36.920
press conference, Stark publicly admits to being

01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:39.199
the superhero the press has dubbed Iron Man.

01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:42.420
In a post -credits scene, S .H .I .E .L .D. director

01:24:42.420 --> 01:24:45.300
Nick Fury visits Stark at his home, telling him

01:24:45.300 --> 01:24:47.300
that he has become part of a bigger universe,

01:24:47.539 --> 01:24:50.800
and he wants to discuss the Avengers initiative.

01:24:52.720 --> 01:25:05.329
Hell yes. Yeah. Yeah. Man, did this movie. This

01:25:05.329 --> 01:25:09.090
they did something slick when they started introducing

01:25:09.090 --> 01:25:11.890
like post credit scenes and everyone's like,

01:25:12.010 --> 01:25:14.409
yo, did you stay till the end? Like when I heard

01:25:14.409 --> 01:25:16.449
for the first time, like, yo, did you stay till

01:25:16.449 --> 01:25:20.930
the end of the credits? No. Yeah. I mean, literally

01:25:20.930 --> 01:25:23.729
Ferris Bueller's day off was the last time I

01:25:23.729 --> 01:25:26.619
ever heard of anything. happening at the end

01:25:26.619 --> 01:25:30.800
of the credits. It's like, wait, the what? Yeah.

01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.520
Like that was the craziest shit. I was just like,

01:25:33.579 --> 01:25:36.800
no way. But I couldn't afford to go back and

01:25:36.800 --> 01:25:38.460
see the movie again. So I had to wait till it

01:25:38.460 --> 01:25:45.960
came out. Cause I was eight, nine, 10. I was

01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:51.659
12 years old when Iron Man came out. Jesus Christ.

01:25:51.939 --> 01:25:55.789
Oh my God. I was. One, two, three, four, five,

01:25:55.890 --> 01:25:59.949
six, seven. I was seven years out of high school.

01:26:02.510 --> 01:26:11.210
Different. Yeah, that movie was crazy. That ending

01:26:11.210 --> 01:26:15.770
was crazy. The whole thing was nuts because watching

01:26:15.770 --> 01:26:19.500
it now. that with the context that we have of

01:26:19.500 --> 01:26:22.180
the entirety of the mcu you're like wow this

01:26:22.180 --> 01:26:24.960
is a pretty this is a pretty good movie but really

01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.239
when you think about it like when that movie

01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:30.840
came out that movie really was made to be like

01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.899
listen if this is the only one we make we just

01:26:34.899 --> 01:26:37.000
got to put just enough in there so that people

01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:41.010
will like it but not do not do so much that if

01:26:41.010 --> 01:26:44.609
we this is the only one we make then uh that's

01:26:44.609 --> 01:26:48.090
it's okay we said all the things we had roadie

01:26:48.090 --> 01:26:50.789
look at the war machine and go next time we had

01:26:50.789 --> 01:26:54.310
him go uh event we had nick fury say avengers

01:26:54.310 --> 01:26:57.609
uh we did it uh if we never make another one

01:26:57.609 --> 01:27:02.609
we tried we tried to do the thing everybody uh

01:27:03.369 --> 01:27:06.390
Yeah, I don't know. It was it was crazy to think

01:27:06.390 --> 01:27:10.010
of that movie as like a not an indie, but like

01:27:10.010 --> 01:27:15.609
a almost like a pilot for the MCU to be like,

01:27:15.630 --> 01:27:19.649
you guys want some more of this? Maybe. Dude,

01:27:19.829 --> 01:27:25.250
for real. Like, I remember how like how I felt.

01:27:26.370 --> 01:27:30.289
Going into like like going into this movie and

01:27:30.289 --> 01:27:32.829
knowing like the Incredible Hulk was coming next,

01:27:33.010 --> 01:27:36.090
like because I was like, all right, sick, not

01:27:36.090 --> 01:27:38.289
realizing that these two movies were going to

01:27:38.289 --> 01:27:43.409
be connected in any way, shape or form. And then

01:27:43.409 --> 01:27:45.729
once they were and I'm like, oh, shit, what's

01:27:45.729 --> 01:27:48.449
next? And it was what was it? Was it Captain

01:27:48.449 --> 01:27:52.199
America next? And then. No, it was Thor first

01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:55.000
and then Captain Warcraft. And then when they

01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:56.439
announced that they were doing the Avengers,

01:27:56.680 --> 01:27:59.000
I was like, it does not get any bigger than this.

01:27:59.359 --> 01:28:02.840
And after the Avengers came out, we were so freaking

01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:07.500
hyped. It didn't seem possible. Avengers didn't

01:28:07.500 --> 01:28:11.779
seem possible, by the way. It didn't. It felt

01:28:11.779 --> 01:28:13.699
like a fever dream. And then when it came out,

01:28:13.779 --> 01:28:15.880
it's just like, oh my god, that was fantastic.

01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:20.149
What now? And then... like i think that's like

01:28:20.149 --> 01:28:24.810
what face one i think was the the only time that

01:28:24.810 --> 01:28:29.670
marvel did just absolute perfection to like build

01:28:29.670 --> 01:28:36.149
up to what they released like it was it was good

01:28:36.149 --> 01:28:40.729
because each movie felt different from the last

01:28:40.729 --> 01:28:45.109
like thor does not have the same vibe as like

01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:48.260
the first Avenger, the first Avenger felt so

01:28:48.260 --> 01:28:51.720
different from incredible Hulk and incredible

01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:57.140
Hulk felt very different from Iron Man. Well,

01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:01.539
and what's crazy is like, it's, it's, it doesn't

01:29:01.539 --> 01:29:04.260
see now. I feel like knowing what we all know

01:29:04.260 --> 01:29:08.460
it, I, I would be hard pressed to believe that

01:29:08.460 --> 01:29:13.500
that was by design and not. by total lucky accident

01:29:13.500 --> 01:29:18.279
that because like these movies are like famous

01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:22.100
for having a half a piece of script and they're

01:29:22.100 --> 01:29:24.680
like we just we just kind of jazz it up on the

01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.920
day and figure it out and we write as we go and

01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:32.359
it's like it shouldn't this shouldn't have worked

01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:37.659
as long as it did and I was telling Caleb offline,

01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:41.859
I think we're finally seeing the MCU kind of

01:29:41.859 --> 01:29:45.159
like get crushed under its own weight of like

01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:48.000
all of their bullshit has finally, they're like,

01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:52.199
we did not reinforce these with steel beams.

01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.420
Like everyone kind of said we should, and it

01:29:54.420 --> 01:29:57.979
worked out fine. And it's starting to not work

01:29:57.979 --> 01:30:01.979
out fine. It's starting to crumble a little bit

01:30:01.979 --> 01:30:06.029
and we're just trying to mitigate. uh what is

01:30:06.029 --> 01:30:09.689
happening and yeah i don't know i almost wish

01:30:09.689 --> 01:30:14.600
this movie I wish they had never told us how

01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:17.520
these movies got made and then just decided like,

01:30:17.619 --> 01:30:19.859
all right, listen, we got super lucky. We got

01:30:19.859 --> 01:30:22.760
to actually write. We got to actually write these

01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:25.880
things. We cannot just do jazz on every movie

01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.500
and hope for the best. But it just kept working.

01:30:28.579 --> 01:30:31.579
It kept working over and over and over and over

01:30:31.579 --> 01:30:35.260
and over and over, literally into Infinity War.

01:30:36.739 --> 01:30:41.909
So it's like you can't argue with it. until you

01:30:41.909 --> 01:30:43.970
know we get to the multiverse and then you can

01:30:43.970 --> 01:30:47.510
really start arguing yeah i mean they had to

01:30:47.510 --> 01:30:52.869
like not to freaking like act like everything

01:30:52.869 --> 01:30:55.510
they did was perfection because a lot of stuff

01:30:55.510 --> 01:30:58.689
was far from it but we were able to forgive it

01:30:58.689 --> 01:31:01.310
enough just because of what it was that they

01:31:01.310 --> 01:31:06.500
were creating yes yeah and then it's just like

01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:08.659
all right well this movie sucked but i mean bleeding

01:31:08.659 --> 01:31:12.840
into like the age of ultron like yeah this is

01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:16.500
this is gonna be sick so that's what i'll say

01:31:16.500 --> 01:31:18.800
like none of the movies even the ones that i

01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:21.460
rag on the most uh your marvels is your thors

01:31:21.460 --> 01:31:24.960
is uh like none of them actually suck like they're

01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.560
not like bad movies they just suck they they

01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.220
i don't know how to i don't know how to describe

01:31:31.220 --> 01:31:35.020
this properly like they're not They're not necessarily

01:31:35.020 --> 01:31:38.039
bad. They're just kind of like the movies that

01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:41.279
are in quote bad are the ones that are like exposing

01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:45.880
what is happening, you know, in the MCU as far

01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.760
as what's going on with their writing and like

01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:52.420
how they are, you know, trying to like the one

01:31:52.420 --> 01:31:55.800
thing I'll never forgive the MCU for letting

01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:59.619
happen is the multiverse of madness. Like, you

01:31:59.619 --> 01:32:02.569
know. letting Sam Raimi just be like, I don't

01:32:02.569 --> 01:32:05.289
really give a fuck about any Wanda vision. I

01:32:05.289 --> 01:32:07.970
just am going to kind of do whatever I want to

01:32:07.970 --> 01:32:10.250
do. And it's going to be scary. I'm the scary

01:32:10.250 --> 01:32:14.250
guy. And it's like, okay, man, but like, no,

01:32:14.510 --> 01:32:19.449
this, this is crazy. Like, yeah. How can this

01:32:19.449 --> 01:32:25.409
be? So I don't know. Like we're talking. I don't

01:32:25.409 --> 01:32:26.670
know if I've done this, but I feel like we're

01:32:26.670 --> 01:32:29.329
too far off of Iron Man. I apologize. Iron Man

01:32:29.329 --> 01:32:35.909
was great. No. I mean, it's hard to not compare

01:32:35.909 --> 01:32:40.569
this movie to everything else. But we have to

01:32:40.569 --> 01:32:46.090
do our best. This is supposed to be an unbiased

01:32:46.090 --> 01:32:57.310
review. We are the unbiased brothers. uh which

01:32:57.310 --> 01:33:04.550
mean the unbro -est brothers dude this is totally

01:33:04.550 --> 01:33:06.529
unrelated to anything that we were talking about

01:33:06.529 --> 01:33:10.890
but please dj was while we were talking earlier

01:33:10.890 --> 01:33:14.750
this week um he had made a joke about what would

01:33:14.750 --> 01:33:19.100
happen if i died fighting a bear and he said

01:33:19.100 --> 01:33:22.020
that he would or that you and him would continue

01:33:22.020 --> 01:33:25.220
the show but you'd have to rename it to the dom

01:33:25.220 --> 01:33:30.800
bros that's a completely different podcast dude

01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:35.479
dude like i'm gonna be honest like getting all

01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:37.479
freaking like sentimental here dude i don't think

01:33:37.479 --> 01:33:40.920
i could do the podcast with that i shut it down

01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:43.600
right away i'm sorry You paid attention to the

01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:49.600
wrong part of this. I know. Okay. You kind of

01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:54.560
focused on me dying, dude. I'm like, yeah, man,

01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:57.239
dude, I'm shutting. Dude, I'll make like one

01:33:57.239 --> 01:33:59.880
final announcement. And yeah, then the all bros

01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:07.930
are just done. so we're a no on the dom bros

01:34:07.930 --> 01:34:10.649
then uh i mean if we start like a brand new podcast

01:34:10.649 --> 01:34:14.210
sure dj but the the all bros just the all bros

01:34:14.210 --> 01:34:18.579
are With a name like The Dom Bros, you have to

01:34:18.579 --> 01:34:22.460
start a new show. It's going to be more of a

01:34:22.460 --> 01:34:24.920
review podcast, but instead of movies, it's going

01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:29.699
to be whips, different kind of handcuffs. Dude,

01:34:29.699 --> 01:34:33.060
with a name like The Dom Bros, we have to cover

01:34:33.060 --> 01:34:37.420
something with Jeffrey Dahmer, right? I mean,

01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:47.649
listen, the possibilities are endless. That is

01:34:47.649 --> 01:34:50.409
also not the route that he was going down, Rosie.

01:34:50.449 --> 01:34:53.109
I think you completely missed the mark. I know.

01:34:54.149 --> 01:34:57.489
It's perfect. It's fine. You know me, man. A

01:34:57.489 --> 01:35:04.970
lot of shit goes over my head. Oh, my hell. Anyway,

01:35:04.970 --> 01:35:10.149
getting back into Iron Man. Talking about the

01:35:10.149 --> 01:35:15.390
story. um this is honestly one of the more re

01:35:15.390 --> 01:35:25.289
-watchable origin stories within the mcu no you're

01:35:25.289 --> 01:35:28.390
no you're good go go for it dj no i'm i talk

01:35:28.390 --> 01:35:31.029
too much go ahead no you don't don't say that

01:35:31.029 --> 01:35:36.710
no it's all right i'm putting my microphone away

01:35:36.710 --> 01:35:41.529
from my face now goodbye everybody You guys are

01:35:41.529 --> 01:35:44.029
completely missing what the hell a podcast is.

01:35:44.149 --> 01:35:47.630
We're supposed to talk, but not over each other.

01:35:47.750 --> 01:35:51.090
And that's my biggest flaw is I just I can't

01:35:51.090 --> 01:35:53.510
stop my mouth from moving. I got to let other

01:35:53.510 --> 01:35:56.270
people talk. Everybody, they all call me and

01:35:56.270 --> 01:35:58.590
tell me you talk too much. Let everybody else

01:35:58.590 --> 01:36:02.869
talk. So I'm going to be quiet starting now.

01:36:03.189 --> 01:36:06.569
Dude, I can mute you if you're getting too out

01:36:06.569 --> 01:36:12.930
of hand. Damn. i'm just saying i have a lot more

01:36:12.930 --> 01:36:21.350
power here if it becomes a problem anywho um

01:36:21.350 --> 01:36:24.829
yeah no watching this like because it'd been

01:36:24.829 --> 01:36:28.109
years since i'd seen this movie and just watching

01:36:28.109 --> 01:36:30.270
it for the first time it felt like i was watching

01:36:30.270 --> 01:36:32.649
it for the first time again and i love that so

01:36:32.649 --> 01:36:36.569
much because damn was it so cool seeing you go

01:36:36.569 --> 01:36:40.210
from mark one to mark two to mark three like

01:36:40.460 --> 01:36:43.979
God, I freaking forgot how much I love in this

01:36:43.979 --> 01:36:50.119
movie how Tony's suits improve. Freaking Mark

01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:53.840
2 might be my favorite for just the fact that

01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:58.220
I love the scene so much of when he first flies

01:36:58.220 --> 01:37:02.739
around the city. That scene alone is so freaking

01:37:02.739 --> 01:37:07.140
cool. And I just freaking love Mark 2's freaking

01:37:07.140 --> 01:37:12.750
chrome look. It looks so badass. Um, but yeah,

01:37:12.810 --> 01:37:16.649
just have fricking just, just seeing where Tony

01:37:16.649 --> 01:37:19.489
Stark starts and how he ends in this movie and

01:37:19.489 --> 01:37:22.590
just, just where, how the story is built around

01:37:22.590 --> 01:37:25.510
that and how, you know, how we get, you know,

01:37:25.510 --> 01:37:28.909
pepper thrown in there, Rhodey, um, Obadiah.

01:37:30.449 --> 01:37:34.229
I, for the fact that, um, I didn't know jack

01:37:34.229 --> 01:37:36.449
shit about Iron Man when this movie first came

01:37:36.449 --> 01:37:39.020
out. I don't think anyone did. Yeah, no, dude,

01:37:39.060 --> 01:37:42.680
for real. And so the fact that this movie was

01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:44.859
a lot of people's first introduction to the character

01:37:44.859 --> 01:37:50.260
of Tony Stark just shows how great of a movie.

01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:53.239
Not only a superhero movie, but I feel just how

01:37:53.239 --> 01:37:59.340
good of a movie this movie is. Just, yeah, the

01:37:59.340 --> 01:38:03.439
story is just so freaking there. Damn. Love it.

01:38:03.979 --> 01:38:06.819
Yeah, that is one thing that... that's one thing

01:38:06.819 --> 01:38:11.039
that marvel i feel like they they would always

01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:14.239
kind of like weave in and out of where they would

01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.960
have a movie that was like this is like that

01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:19.140
you would say like this is just a good movie

01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:22.840
like this was that this was like that uh the

01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:25.180
winter soldier was definitely that like civil

01:38:25.180 --> 01:38:27.680
war was that like they had movies that you're

01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:30.060
like this is just a good movie like i could just

01:38:30.060 --> 01:38:32.859
watch this movie and it's it's kind of an amazing

01:38:32.859 --> 01:38:39.159
thing to see uh I. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:43.899
know what I don't know what. It's why I wish

01:38:43.899 --> 01:38:46.739
there was like I know they had Kevin Feige. Kevin

01:38:46.739 --> 01:38:48.899
Feige was he was the man the whole time, right?

01:38:49.079 --> 01:38:51.060
Like there was never a time that he wasn't in

01:38:51.060 --> 01:38:55.220
charge. I do almost wish they had kept like the

01:38:55.220 --> 01:38:59.600
same stable of writers or something or. just

01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:02.359
kept john favreau and robert downey jr around

01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:04.699
i don't know something whatever it is like just

01:39:04.699 --> 01:39:07.060
on all the movies just to be like yeah let me

01:39:07.060 --> 01:39:09.779
let me put my my stink on it a little bit to

01:39:09.779 --> 01:39:13.539
kind of like keep it i don't know i don't know

01:39:13.539 --> 01:39:15.420
i i don't know how to i don't know what it is

01:39:15.420 --> 01:39:19.479
about this movie that makes it so such a good

01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:22.060
origin story but it's i mean it's it's the best

01:39:22.060 --> 01:39:26.029
origin story i would say out of any any comic

01:39:26.029 --> 01:39:29.050
book movie like there are ones that i enjoy like

01:39:29.050 --> 01:39:32.010
i i mean listen you could do a million spider

01:39:32.010 --> 01:39:34.050
-man origin stories and i'll watch every one

01:39:34.050 --> 01:39:37.189
of them and i'll like every one of them uh you

01:39:37.189 --> 01:39:40.090
can do i as much as people hate it i will watch

01:39:40.090 --> 01:39:43.369
every batman origin story i love it it's great

01:39:43.369 --> 01:39:46.630
this one though was just like it's like you said

01:39:46.630 --> 01:39:50.920
rose it was so you could, I'm going to watch

01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:53.260
it again this coming weekend with Beth. Cause

01:39:53.260 --> 01:39:55.399
I just watched it myself. Like we're all going

01:39:55.399 --> 01:39:57.779
to watch it again. And I'm excited to watch it

01:39:57.779 --> 01:40:00.899
again. Cause it is, it is super rewatchable like

01:40:00.899 --> 01:40:04.380
that. We're not every MCU movie is like that,

01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:10.039
which is crazy. It just, I don't know. starting

01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.020
so strong it's it's funny to watch this now you're

01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:14.619
like oh you guys had a lot to live up to it's

01:40:14.619 --> 01:40:19.239
crazy how some of these movies went yeah seriously

01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:25.640
dude iron man is like i thought i think they

01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:30.380
chose a perfect hero to start off the mcu with

01:40:30.380 --> 01:40:35.880
like before this like what when you talked about

01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:40.569
marvel i knew A lot like the characters that

01:40:40.569 --> 01:40:43.350
they had prior, like the legacy characters that

01:40:43.350 --> 01:40:46.069
I think that's what we call them now. So like,

01:40:46.069 --> 01:40:49.569
yeah, I knew about Daredevil. I knew about Punisher.

01:40:49.710 --> 01:40:55.810
I knew the Hulk, Spider -Man, obviously. And

01:40:55.810 --> 01:41:00.590
then I think the only one that like. Outside

01:41:00.590 --> 01:41:04.729
of the like anyone, any MCU movie prior to Iron

01:41:04.729 --> 01:41:09.239
Man, I knew about. in some way shape or form

01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:15.000
um the only one that i i knew about from like

01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.720
a little bit was like captain america like i

01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:21.079
i kind of knew his story i i may not have known

01:41:21.079 --> 01:41:26.060
his story but i did know his i knew who he was

01:41:26.060 --> 01:41:28.779
like i knew who captain america was you'd recognize

01:41:28.779 --> 01:41:30.699
him if you saw him you'd be like oh there's captain

01:41:30.699 --> 01:41:35.680
america but when you like like the staple for

01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:40.640
me with marvel prior to iron man it was spider

01:41:40.640 --> 01:41:44.439
-man i knew like captain america and hulk like

01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:47.319
those were like the big three of marvel for me

01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:51.579
and then obviously this movie completely shifted

01:41:51.579 --> 01:41:54.840
that and brought us iron man and i was like oh

01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:57.239
my gosh this is so cool and then it brings in

01:41:57.239 --> 01:41:59.560
thor and i'm like what the heck like you talk

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:04.840
about the norse god thor and because i i no frame

01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:07.000
of reference for the character of thor in the

01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:10.460
mcu or in marvel either and so it's just all

01:42:10.460 --> 01:42:13.380
of that kind of coming together was was fantastic

01:42:13.380 --> 01:42:18.439
and specifically about this movie what i liked

01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:22.220
about it is it gave us an origin story that not

01:42:22.220 --> 01:42:25.800
very many people were familiar with like we all

01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.779
know batman's we all know spider -man's we all

01:42:28.779 --> 01:42:32.539
know superman's it's like but you gave us a character

01:42:33.369 --> 01:42:37.550
that none of us knew the origin to other than

01:42:37.550 --> 01:42:44.949
like crazy comic book nerds but Yeah, which,

01:42:45.029 --> 01:42:48.409
by the way, I was not like the I am like the

01:42:48.409 --> 01:42:51.369
one that comic book nerds hate because I was

01:42:51.369 --> 01:42:54.529
like, I read like X -Men comics when I was like

01:42:54.529 --> 01:42:57.210
a little, little kid. And then I kind of fell

01:42:57.210 --> 01:43:00.689
away from all comics in all of their forms. And

01:43:00.689 --> 01:43:04.170
I did not start. I did not buy one more comic

01:43:04.170 --> 01:43:08.649
until. I think right before or right after they

01:43:08.649 --> 01:43:11.810
announced civil war was coming out. I bought

01:43:11.810 --> 01:43:15.409
that to read it. And I was like, by the way,

01:43:15.489 --> 01:43:18.470
again, another thing about Marvel, like when

01:43:18.470 --> 01:43:22.270
they write something like civil war, like if

01:43:22.270 --> 01:43:25.409
you've read that run of comics, there couldn't

01:43:25.409 --> 01:43:29.149
be something more different than what is in the

01:43:29.149 --> 01:43:32.829
comic. And they were, they had the concept, but

01:43:32.829 --> 01:43:36.500
not the. Well, what's funny about that, like

01:43:36.500 --> 01:43:39.159
they weren't like Kevin Feige, like threw around

01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.859
the idea of Civil War, but it wasn't until Batman

01:43:42.859 --> 01:43:45.039
v Superman was announced that he's like, OK,

01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:47.260
all right. Yeah, no, let's do Civil War. We're

01:43:47.260 --> 01:43:50.800
doing it stupid just to like shove it to D .C.

01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:54.180
Well, and that's the thing is like you think

01:43:54.180 --> 01:43:57.800
of how they made movies and wrote them. again

01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:01.359
a movie that absolutely shouldn't have worked

01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:05.279
on paper like it just was too much if you just

01:44:05.279 --> 01:44:07.960
if you wrote it out you'd be like so this was

01:44:07.960 --> 01:44:10.619
where it all went wrong right uh they made this

01:44:10.619 --> 01:44:13.960
movie and everything fell apart uh and no like

01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:17.899
it was it made sense it would it made sense for

01:44:17.899 --> 01:44:21.859
i don't know how to say this properly but for

01:44:21.859 --> 01:44:25.680
what the civil war the actual comic was uh what

01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:30.439
they did for the mcu was like as close as a one

01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:32.159
for one as you're gonna get you know because

01:44:32.159 --> 01:44:33.640
you don't have fantastic four you don't have

01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:37.640
x -men but it was like a perfect you know for

01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:40.100
lack of a better term like a perfect multiverse

01:44:40.100 --> 01:44:43.220
version of civil war where if those characters

01:44:43.220 --> 01:44:45.640
that are in the actual run didn't exist this

01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:50.119
is a great stand -in for for what you would expect

01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:56.250
out of that so again crazy how how how did they

01:44:56.250 --> 01:45:04.210
do this damn this this story like it's killer

01:45:04.210 --> 01:45:08.590
like it is one of the top tier marvel stories

01:45:08.590 --> 01:45:12.989
told yeah definitely and the fact that they got

01:45:12.989 --> 01:45:15.930
this straight out of the gate like i it's crazy

01:45:15.930 --> 01:45:20.850
how good of a filmmaker john favreau is like

01:45:20.850 --> 01:45:23.350
i don't think he gets enough credit for the movies

01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:28.109
that he's made listen if you can make an interesting

01:45:28.109 --> 01:45:30.210
movie about a food truck you can make an interesting

01:45:30.210 --> 01:45:34.069
movie about anything for real like that is honestly

01:45:34.069 --> 01:45:37.770
one of my favorite movies of his um i freaking

01:45:37.770 --> 01:45:43.689
love like chef is like i'll watch that at least

01:45:43.689 --> 01:45:49.409
once a year um i do the same thing with elf Like

01:45:49.409 --> 01:45:52.149
that's an amazing movie. And then yeah, African

01:45:52.149 --> 01:45:57.869
iron man, another amazing movie. I feel like

01:45:57.869 --> 01:46:01.250
he also has one of the only live action Disney

01:46:01.250 --> 01:46:04.210
remakes that people actually enjoy. And some

01:46:04.210 --> 01:46:07.470
would say is better than the original with the

01:46:07.470 --> 01:46:12.130
jungle book. That you're going to say he was

01:46:12.130 --> 01:46:15.949
doing the new Moana. which you know trailer came

01:46:15.949 --> 01:46:22.409
out today as of recording yikes i love how they

01:46:22.409 --> 01:46:24.649
don't even show maui because they all know that

01:46:24.649 --> 01:46:26.810
we're gonna be like oh god yeah we're gonna roast

01:46:26.810 --> 01:46:31.069
the ever -living bejesus out of maui what do

01:46:31.069 --> 01:46:34.189
you mean a new day for uh disney is upon us or

01:46:34.189 --> 01:46:39.930
whatever he said yeah i told yeah totally Yeah.

01:46:40.810 --> 01:46:44.109
As a, as a storyteller, it's just incredible.

01:46:44.390 --> 01:46:48.229
It does not get enough credit. No, I mean, I,

01:46:48.310 --> 01:46:50.310
you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this.

01:46:50.470 --> 01:46:53.029
I'm glad I finally remembered. Cause I was trying

01:46:53.029 --> 01:46:55.390
to, this is why I say you need, or at least I

01:46:55.390 --> 01:46:57.890
need time to, to ruminate on these movies before

01:46:57.890 --> 01:47:02.170
I actually talk about them. Uh, matrix. Um, but,

01:47:02.289 --> 01:47:10.800
uh, uh, matrix four gave it the wrong. uh score

01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:17.619
anyway um oh yeah so i weirdly enough uh i uh

01:47:18.060 --> 01:47:21.439
I would compare this, this whole movie as an

01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:25.380
origin story for iron man to like your first

01:47:25.380 --> 01:47:27.640
kind of introduction to the guardians of the

01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:30.460
galaxy. Like when you first meet star Lord and

01:47:30.460 --> 01:47:32.420
all that, and you're like, who the hell is this

01:47:32.420 --> 01:47:35.119
guy? Like you want to know who the, that's, I

01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:37.319
think the difference is you want to know who

01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:39.500
these people are. Like they're interesting instantly.

01:47:39.859 --> 01:47:42.100
And you're like, I gotta know more about this

01:47:42.100 --> 01:47:47.460
person. And I don't know that any other. mcu

01:47:47.460 --> 01:47:51.100
origin and maybe captain america but i don't

01:47:51.100 --> 01:47:54.340
even think captain america's his was well okay

01:47:54.340 --> 01:47:56.760
i was gonna say it's not as good as the guardians

01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:01.579
but i i feel wrong as i'm even thinking it uh

01:48:01.579 --> 01:48:07.899
i just like the guardians more is what it is

01:48:07.899 --> 01:48:10.520
like i kept that i it's not that i dislike captain

01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:13.739
america i just like the guardians so much more

01:48:14.350 --> 01:48:17.430
But yeah, out of how many origins that we've

01:48:17.430 --> 01:48:20.689
seen in the MCU, that's three that have really

01:48:20.689 --> 01:48:27.930
been interesting or worth revisiting. I would

01:48:27.930 --> 01:48:36.310
disagree with you there. I liked... There's more.

01:48:37.590 --> 01:48:49.470
I think. Rather than but of the of the I guess

01:48:49.470 --> 01:48:54.329
the main Avengers, my favorite origin is probably

01:48:54.329 --> 01:49:01.550
first Avenger. Yeah, I got a soft spot in that

01:49:01.550 --> 01:49:08.130
in my heart for that one. But yeah, looking at

01:49:08.130 --> 01:49:12.159
this movie story wise, I think this is. definitely

01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:15.140
in the higher i i don't know if i'm quite in

01:49:15.140 --> 01:49:19.260
the 90s yet i'm sitting there like in 89 like

01:49:19.260 --> 01:49:26.899
it's right freaking there i think that my problem

01:49:26.899 --> 01:49:29.520
is i think they they stuck around in the desert

01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:32.699
just a hair too long like that i think that's

01:49:32.699 --> 01:49:38.140
my only issue with it i i mean this movie it

01:49:38.140 --> 01:49:41.880
i honestly didn't remember it was this long like

01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.420
when i saw it was two hours i was like really

01:49:44.420 --> 01:49:49.199
and i actually had the opposite feel like i felt

01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:53.060
like this movie had a super good clip to it like

01:49:53.060 --> 01:49:56.079
it was just it but it didn't it it moved but

01:49:56.079 --> 01:50:00.069
it didn't seem like it was uh like like marvel

01:50:00.069 --> 01:50:02.510
movies now like okay now this scene now this

01:50:02.510 --> 01:50:04.090
scene now this scene we got to get to this hurry

01:50:04.090 --> 01:50:07.609
up and get to this like it moved it moved naturally

01:50:07.609 --> 01:50:11.789
in a way that i was like i was into i don't know

01:50:11.789 --> 01:50:15.609
it was uh i did i actually would put it high

01:50:15.609 --> 01:50:18.770
in in the 90s uh as far as story goes because

01:50:18.770 --> 01:50:22.689
i i did think it was i don't know yeah i think

01:50:22.689 --> 01:50:28.720
everything moved to a good clip i'm sorry No,

01:50:28.739 --> 01:50:32.399
I mean, that's completely fair. Where are you

01:50:32.399 --> 01:50:37.159
at, Rose? So, yeah, I'm with I think I'm with

01:50:37.159 --> 01:50:42.199
DJ. I think I am. I think I have hit at least

01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:46.760
a 90 with it because I think it just does literally

01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:49.880
everything right. The flow is amazing. I feel

01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:54.739
it's one of the best flowing MCU movies. And

01:50:54.739 --> 01:50:56.920
the fact that it was like the first one is just

01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:02.920
insane. Like it's never did I feel like the story

01:51:02.920 --> 01:51:11.039
lagged. So I think I'd be a solid 90 for story.

01:51:13.739 --> 01:51:21.699
Fair. All right, moving on over to writing. This

01:51:21.699 --> 01:51:27.970
is a very smartly written movie. And it's hard

01:51:27.970 --> 01:51:31.510
to tell how much of it was improv on Robert Downey's

01:51:31.510 --> 01:51:36.609
part. Because he was famous for that. Just kind

01:51:36.609 --> 01:51:40.310
of coming up with shit on the spot. But it worked.

01:51:40.670 --> 01:51:47.310
Everything he did worked. And it's crazy how

01:51:47.310 --> 01:51:51.310
well it worked. He was really good at being funny.

01:51:51.489 --> 01:51:56.619
He was charming. he was everything you, you want.

01:51:56.960 --> 01:52:01.380
Like he, he built like his, like kind of, he

01:52:01.380 --> 01:52:04.560
was the embodiment of who Tony Stark was. Like

01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:06.840
even Stan Lee said, like, I couldn't have written

01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:12.119
Iron Man better if I tried. Yeah. And it's just

01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:17.399
like, that's just, it's just him. Like Tony Stark

01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:21.500
is who like Robert Downey is. Was kind of born

01:52:21.500 --> 01:52:26.210
to play. Yeah, exactly. Straight up. He's just

01:52:26.210 --> 01:52:32.989
that smart, quick -witted humor, just fast -talking,

01:52:33.069 --> 01:52:42.170
smart guy. It's crazy. He is so good in this

01:52:42.170 --> 01:52:49.170
role. And I think the script reflects that, or

01:52:49.170 --> 01:52:51.369
what little of the script I assume they had.

01:52:53.710 --> 01:52:55.989
like it's hard it's hard to judge it based off

01:52:55.989 --> 01:53:03.010
of like just tony stark alone um but obadiah

01:53:03.010 --> 01:53:07.430
stain terrifying dude once he kind of went back

01:53:07.430 --> 01:53:12.729
like turned bad like it was he was scary yeah

01:53:12.729 --> 01:53:17.449
like when he's yelling at that one guy like the

01:53:17.449 --> 01:53:20.189
tony stark was able to build this in a cave like

01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:24.460
it like you could feel the silence in that room

01:53:24.460 --> 01:53:31.340
yeah and yeah i mean just the crazy shit like

01:53:31.340 --> 01:53:36.060
and his little like stun gun shit like that scared

01:53:36.060 --> 01:53:39.359
the ever -living shit out of me dude dude i was

01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.300
gonna say that like at the writing in this movie

01:53:42.300 --> 01:53:45.079
i'm just gonna take it at face value and say

01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:46.939
that you know whatever even though we know kind

01:53:46.939 --> 01:53:50.399
of different this writing was Everything was

01:53:50.399 --> 01:53:54.960
planned because there were so many checkoff guns.

01:53:55.550 --> 01:53:58.170
You know what I mean? Like that, the, the little

01:53:58.170 --> 01:54:01.930
stunner thing, like whenever Obadiah goes to

01:54:01.930 --> 01:54:04.670
be like, Hey, we're, we're going to take this

01:54:04.670 --> 01:54:06.489
money from you from the guys out in the desert.

01:54:06.529 --> 01:54:09.590
I can't remember the bad guy's name. He stuns

01:54:09.590 --> 01:54:13.369
them. And you're like, Oh God, that's crazy that

01:54:13.369 --> 01:54:15.470
he has that. And then later when he shows up

01:54:15.470 --> 01:54:17.430
and is like, yeah, Tony, sorry, you're going

01:54:17.430 --> 01:54:18.829
to have to take a nap for a little while, while

01:54:18.829 --> 01:54:22.350
I steal your heart out of your chest. There was

01:54:22.350 --> 01:54:27.260
what else? god i had so many when i was thinking

01:54:27.260 --> 01:54:29.199
of this earlier i'm like there's this and this

01:54:29.199 --> 01:54:32.260
and this uh but you saying that reminded me uh

01:54:32.260 --> 01:54:35.760
technically it wasn't a a checkoffs war machine

01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:40.020
but again i just loved i that my favorite one

01:54:40.020 --> 01:54:42.300
of my favorite scenes is roadie looking over

01:54:42.300 --> 01:54:46.460
uh and just being like next time and it's like

01:54:46.460 --> 01:54:49.100
at the time i had no idea who roadie was i had

01:54:49.100 --> 01:54:50.800
no idea what he meant i just thought it was a

01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:53.020
guy that was like wanted to get in an iron man

01:54:53.020 --> 01:54:56.140
suit and fly around and i was like yeah dude

01:54:56.140 --> 01:55:00.359
totally uh but then finding out that he was supposed

01:55:00.359 --> 01:55:02.899
you know he is war machine and he will be getting

01:55:02.899 --> 01:55:05.199
into a suit and doing the thing you're like oh

01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:07.909
that's awesome foreshadowing that like that's

01:55:07.909 --> 01:55:10.109
going to happen eventually if these movies keep

01:55:10.109 --> 01:55:13.250
going just too bad it wasn't the next time for

01:55:13.250 --> 01:55:16.680
that specific actor Well, and OK, so even when

01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:19.840
when he tells Pepper, he's like, you know, take

01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:22.079
this, throw it away. And, you know, she makes

01:55:22.079 --> 01:55:25.000
the proof that Tony Stark has a heart. Like you're

01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.340
like, oh, it's a cool thing to do. And then,

01:55:27.380 --> 01:55:30.000
oops, it definitely comes into play at the last

01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:31.920
minute, because if that if she hadn't have done

01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:33.979
that, then he wouldn't have been able to do.

01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:38.140
So like there was it's why it's like. It is kind

01:55:38.140 --> 01:55:41.279
of hard to believe that this movie was kind of

01:55:41.279 --> 01:55:44.760
like written by the seat of its own pants. Cause

01:55:44.760 --> 01:55:48.300
you're like, they seem to have like some semblance

01:55:48.300 --> 01:55:52.359
of, of what was going on. Like it wasn't just

01:55:52.359 --> 01:55:55.640
again, like Marvel movies are now where they're

01:55:55.640 --> 01:55:59.079
just like, Oh shit, this movie, it needs to have

01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:02.699
something happen right now. Uh, okay. What if.

01:56:03.289 --> 01:56:05.630
Okay. Listen, the movie's almost over guys. We

01:56:05.630 --> 01:56:07.890
got to just cram everything into the end. All

01:56:07.890 --> 01:56:10.590
right. Listen, the guy's coming. It's going to

01:56:10.590 --> 01:56:14.189
be bad. I don't know. Wait for the end credits.

01:56:16.630 --> 01:56:19.529
It's probably going to be fine. I think like,

01:56:19.569 --> 01:56:22.149
if anything, like how they had this structured

01:56:22.149 --> 01:56:25.270
was maybe they had a general idea of where everything

01:56:25.270 --> 01:56:28.670
was going to go. Maybe it was just more in like

01:56:28.670 --> 01:56:31.449
the details, like, all right, this is where we

01:56:31.449 --> 01:56:33.890
need to get to. We're not exactly sure what's

01:56:33.890 --> 01:56:37.069
going to be said here, but this is where we need

01:56:37.069 --> 01:56:40.949
to get to for each scene. Yeah. And I, by the

01:56:40.949 --> 01:56:44.210
way, I think I'm thinking of Ant -Man, Quantumania

01:56:44.210 --> 01:56:46.949
or whatever, specifically how that movie just

01:56:46.949 --> 01:56:49.590
kind of like the last 30 minutes were just kind

01:56:49.590 --> 01:56:53.149
of like, guys. We got to end this thing, man.

01:56:53.250 --> 01:56:55.550
I don't know what we're going to do, but we got

01:56:55.550 --> 01:57:00.449
to just make this movie over in 30 minutes. So

01:57:00.449 --> 01:57:05.109
let's just do all the shit. And then, ah, dude,

01:57:05.350 --> 01:57:09.069
we left him in the quantum realm. What now? How

01:57:09.069 --> 01:57:12.510
do we, oh, we'll just take him out and just leave

01:57:12.510 --> 01:57:14.670
Kang there. It's fine. Don't worry about it.

01:57:18.729 --> 01:57:22.390
uh i mean this writing dude like for iron man

01:57:22.390 --> 01:57:28.510
was solid yes this is one i will i'm in the 90s

01:57:28.510 --> 01:57:31.250
like i will be at a 90 with the writing here

01:57:31.250 --> 01:57:34.569
like it whether it was ad -libbed or written

01:57:34.569 --> 01:57:38.989
like it was it was good this is a very quotable

01:57:38.989 --> 01:57:44.050
movie yes and from like from all parts too yeah

01:57:44.050 --> 01:57:48.279
um like some of my favorite scenes like i i really

01:57:48.279 --> 01:57:53.439
like the scene between tony and and pepper when

01:57:53.439 --> 01:57:57.039
she's swapping out the arc reactor and reach

01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:02.359
it in and she's just like oh it's it's not pus

01:58:02.359 --> 01:58:04.680
it's some amniotic or fluid or whatever he says

01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:13.180
yeah How about the coolest moment in maybe all

01:58:13.180 --> 01:58:17.180
of comic book movies when you expect him to do

01:58:17.180 --> 01:58:20.279
the thing that happens in comic book movies where

01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:22.920
it's the end. He's got to be like, oh, it was

01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:25.880
a training exercise. It was crazy. And he says,

01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:28.760
I am Iron Man. You're like, hold on. They can

01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:32.640
do that? They can just reveal their identity?

01:58:32.859 --> 01:58:38.970
What? Yeah, dude, that was honestly because like

01:58:38.970 --> 01:58:42.149
I just remember like I wouldn't watch it very

01:58:42.149 --> 01:58:47.210
often, but the Iron Man animated show. It always

01:58:47.210 --> 01:58:50.470
bothered me because they always had it like,

01:58:50.550 --> 01:58:54.729
oh, yeah, Iron Man is just Tony Stark's bodyguard.

01:58:55.210 --> 01:59:00.579
Yeah, like what a stupid cover up. Well, I mean,

01:59:00.579 --> 01:59:02.460
they did reference that in the movie. They're

01:59:02.460 --> 01:59:09.300
like, I know. So, yeah, that was crazy, too.

01:59:09.460 --> 01:59:13.060
Like what he really reveals it. And because every

01:59:13.060 --> 01:59:16.079
superhero, every single one that we've had up

01:59:16.079 --> 01:59:21.510
to that point. excluding blade it's always like

01:59:21.510 --> 01:59:24.029
oh keep your identity secret keep your identity

01:59:24.029 --> 01:59:26.949
secret like no one knows i'm spider -man no one

01:59:26.949 --> 01:59:29.510
knows i'm daredevil no one knows i'm batman and

01:59:29.510 --> 01:59:35.329
then it's just like f it like i'm iron man like

01:59:35.329 --> 01:59:40.670
that iconic absolutely iconic that was by the

01:59:40.670 --> 01:59:43.270
way another thing just speaking on i guess writing

01:59:43.270 --> 01:59:47.010
and story like the thing about this movie that

01:59:48.029 --> 01:59:52.170
made like the future disappointing was like how

01:59:52.170 --> 01:59:57.630
iron heart was good and not great you know what

01:59:57.630 --> 02:00:01.050
i mean like watching this movie and being like

02:00:01.050 --> 02:00:05.329
they got done in two hours what iron heart really

02:00:05.329 --> 02:00:10.229
struggled to get to get across in like what six

02:00:10.229 --> 02:00:13.109
or eight episodes or whatever it was Don't get

02:00:13.109 --> 02:00:15.270
me wrong. I like Ironheart. I'm one of the few

02:00:15.270 --> 02:00:18.810
people that enjoyed that show from beginning

02:00:18.810 --> 02:00:22.829
to end. I have no real context for Mephisto,

02:00:22.909 --> 02:00:24.729
but I was super psyched to see him show up at

02:00:24.729 --> 02:00:31.489
the end. Spoilers. When you watch this and you

02:00:31.489 --> 02:00:37.390
watch that, you're like... It seemed like a real

02:00:37.390 --> 02:00:43.390
uphill battle for them to get you to care about

02:00:43.390 --> 02:00:47.909
this character. It's almost like the show didn't

02:00:47.909 --> 02:00:52.130
have faith in itself when you look at what Iron

02:00:52.130 --> 02:00:55.310
Man was. I know she's not supposed to be Iron

02:00:55.310 --> 02:00:58.869
Man, but she can have that same kind of bravado.

02:00:59.050 --> 02:01:02.789
It's okay. If guys don't like it or whoever decides,

02:01:03.029 --> 02:01:06.489
she can't be exactly. who cares? Like, just do

02:01:06.489 --> 02:01:09.449
it anyway. People like assholes like me said,

02:01:09.470 --> 02:01:11.449
Robert Downey jr. Couldn't do it at the time.

02:01:11.449 --> 02:01:19.770
And what was, so I don't know. It's yeah. So

02:01:19.770 --> 02:01:21.369
where are you guys sitting with your writing

02:01:21.369 --> 02:01:27.350
grade? Me personally, I'm at, I'm sorry to say

02:01:27.350 --> 02:01:30.510
I'm in the eighties. I'm at an 88. The biggest

02:01:30.510 --> 02:01:35.250
writing problem I have. I got this with my rewatch.

02:01:35.369 --> 02:01:41.770
I felt that the whole becoming romantic relationship

02:01:41.770 --> 02:01:43.829
between Tony and Pepper, I thought that kind

02:01:43.829 --> 02:01:48.970
of went a little too fast for me. Just how they

02:01:48.970 --> 02:01:52.710
start where Tony doesn't really pay that much

02:01:52.710 --> 02:01:55.750
attention to Pepper. And then all of a sudden

02:01:55.750 --> 02:01:59.539
at the... what like that banquet or something

02:01:59.539 --> 02:02:01.100
that he goes to like all of a sudden he starts

02:02:01.100 --> 02:02:03.520
to like see her in a different light and just

02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:07.920
I don't know just it went a little too too fast

02:02:07.920 --> 02:02:11.699
for me I'm like I think that they should have

02:02:11.699 --> 02:02:14.819
maybe set the I think that maybe they should

02:02:14.819 --> 02:02:18.020
have set the groundwork in it and for them in

02:02:18.020 --> 02:02:20.220
this movie and then they don't become like a

02:02:20.220 --> 02:02:23.840
real thing until Iron Man 2 Well, I mean, technically,

02:02:24.100 --> 02:02:26.300
I because that honestly, it's funny you say that,

02:02:26.340 --> 02:02:27.880
because that was one of the things that I kind

02:02:27.880 --> 02:02:29.979
of liked about this movie, because it was like

02:02:29.979 --> 02:02:33.380
a almost like a mini cliffhanger. Because at

02:02:33.380 --> 02:02:35.979
the end, when he is like reminding her of like,

02:02:36.100 --> 02:02:38.479
hey, remember when we had our our little moment?

02:02:38.779 --> 02:02:42.220
And she's like, oh, you mean when you left? And

02:02:42.220 --> 02:02:44.319
you did like, she basically was kind of gave

02:02:44.319 --> 02:02:47.220
him the, like, get out of here. Like she was

02:02:47.220 --> 02:02:50.359
playing coy with him. She wasn't like rejecting

02:02:50.359 --> 02:02:53.560
him, but I liked, I actually did. I noticed,

02:02:53.600 --> 02:02:55.060
I don't know if they did it on purpose or not,

02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:57.560
but I liked the fact that he did not get the

02:02:57.560 --> 02:03:00.479
girl at the end that he clearly was like, I wanted

02:03:00.479 --> 02:03:03.319
this to happen. And she was like, eh, I'm not

02:03:03.319 --> 02:03:06.600
that I'm not quite, I'm not quite. garbage yet

02:03:06.600 --> 02:03:11.500
so by the way one of the again top 10 greatest

02:03:11.500 --> 02:03:13.720
lines in that movie like i do this and this and

02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:16.880
that and i take out the trash like get the hell

02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:18.939
out of here which he says it to that reporter

02:03:18.939 --> 02:03:26.479
at the beginning uh dude hardcore that was oh

02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:30.100
my god ice cold but yeah i it's funny because

02:03:30.100 --> 02:03:32.920
i actually i like that he he didn't just win

02:03:32.920 --> 02:03:36.779
all the way around uh she was like no we're we

02:03:36.779 --> 02:03:41.060
can we can relax on that for a second dude you

02:03:41.060 --> 02:03:43.739
want to know one of the biggest misses that i

02:03:43.739 --> 02:03:46.880
feel that i wish that they would have continued

02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:52.439
on with this like from this movie is the iron

02:03:52.439 --> 02:03:56.000
man voice like when he goes to afghanistan and

02:03:56.000 --> 02:03:58.800
starts blowing up those tanks and like basically

02:03:58.800 --> 02:04:01.640
like goes and grabs the guy that imprisoned him

02:04:01.640 --> 02:04:04.180
pulls him out into the crowd of people that like

02:04:04.180 --> 02:04:06.859
you know he's gonna freaking bushwhack or get

02:04:06.859 --> 02:04:10.020
bushwhacked by and he like when he's flying off

02:04:10.020 --> 02:04:12.340
and he just says you're all yours like that voice

02:04:12.340 --> 02:04:16.079
that he has like an altar sick i wish they would

02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:17.720
keep i wish they would have kept that around

02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:22.859
like i love altered deep voices like that in

02:04:22.859 --> 02:04:25.539
fairness it does track with tony though that

02:04:25.539 --> 02:04:28.199
he's like uh i am iron man you're gonna hear

02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:34.399
my voice i am uh very vain at heart and uh i

02:04:34.399 --> 02:04:37.720
need everyone to know it's me baby not justin

02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:46.960
hammer tony stark oh man so where were you at

02:04:46.960 --> 02:04:52.189
dj for the writing uh i gave writing a 95 i very

02:04:52.189 --> 02:04:56.350
much i yeah again taking everything at face value

02:04:56.350 --> 02:04:59.930
of like just assuming that they they just wrote

02:04:59.930 --> 02:05:03.550
this movie and then made it uh i don't know there

02:05:03.550 --> 02:05:05.630
were there were just wasn't there wasn't much

02:05:05.630 --> 02:05:10.069
to be like i i'm probably wrong but i felt like

02:05:10.069 --> 02:05:12.569
everything got paid off that needed to get paid

02:05:12.569 --> 02:05:14.970
off in this movie like there was nothing really

02:05:14.970 --> 02:05:17.529
left hanging other than what was supposed to

02:05:17.529 --> 02:05:22.180
be you know vis -a -vis the avengers uh the avengers

02:05:22.180 --> 02:05:25.779
initiative and you know what what what was going

02:05:25.779 --> 02:05:28.260
to happen next in the wild adventures of tony

02:05:28.260 --> 02:05:31.859
stark and his iron man uh so but that's you know

02:05:31.859 --> 02:05:33.699
clearly supposed to get paid off in the next

02:05:33.699 --> 02:05:40.300
movie so yeah 95 great loved it all right moving

02:05:40.300 --> 02:05:44.260
on over to acting we got robert danny jr who

02:05:44.260 --> 02:05:48.539
played the man himself tony stark or a .k .a.

02:05:48.539 --> 02:05:52.659
Iron Man. Then we got Gwyneth Paltrow who plays

02:05:52.659 --> 02:05:57.699
Pepper Potts. We got Terrence Howard who plays

02:05:57.699 --> 02:06:04.220
James Rhodes. I'll bring it up later. Jeff Bridges

02:06:04.220 --> 02:06:09.899
plays Obadiah Stane. Clark Gregg plays Agent

02:06:09.899 --> 02:06:13.920
Phil Coulson. The man, the myth, the legend.

02:06:16.270 --> 02:06:18.750
Then we got Leslie Bibb, who plays Christine

02:06:18.750 --> 02:06:24.510
Everhart. Sean Toob, who plays Jensen. And that's

02:06:24.510 --> 02:06:30.250
it. In terms of main cast. I wanted to bring

02:06:30.250 --> 02:06:35.649
it up. I know. Terrence Howard, dude. I really

02:06:35.649 --> 02:06:39.350
liked him as Rhodes. Listen, have I grown to

02:06:39.350 --> 02:06:45.869
love Don Cheadle more? Yes. Do I feel like Terrence

02:06:45.869 --> 02:06:48.090
Howard would have made a kick -ass war machine?

02:06:48.789 --> 02:06:54.189
Also, yes. Well, you know what's funny? Yes and

02:06:54.189 --> 02:06:58.029
no. Because Marvel, at least in this first couple

02:06:58.029 --> 02:07:02.289
phases, man, I mean, they could do no wrong in

02:07:02.289 --> 02:07:05.329
casting. They were amazing at casting everything

02:07:05.329 --> 02:07:11.680
they did. I will say, I am... I am glad that

02:07:11.680 --> 02:07:16.319
Terrence Howard, I just, I don't know if Terrence

02:07:16.319 --> 02:07:19.819
Howard, cause he is a great actor, but like seeing

02:07:19.819 --> 02:07:22.859
what Don Cheadle has done. Like, I just, I don't

02:07:22.859 --> 02:07:26.800
know, man. Like I, I really can't see it any

02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:29.819
other way. Like I, again, I'm a big Terrence

02:07:29.819 --> 02:07:32.659
Howard fan, even with his crazy math and all

02:07:32.659 --> 02:07:35.100
of his, you know, all of his craziness. I love

02:07:35.100 --> 02:07:38.699
it. You're so, but literally this guy is he.

02:07:39.899 --> 02:07:42.939
Can I tell you something? Do you know who should

02:07:42.939 --> 02:07:46.020
have played Kang the whole time? Terrence Howard.

02:07:46.460 --> 02:07:50.960
Motherfucking Howard. Because that actually would

02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:56.760
have worked. Like, cause by the way, everything

02:07:56.760 --> 02:07:58.680
could have worked out fine. All of a sudden you're

02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:00.359
like, what, what is this guy doing back? Why

02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:02.359
is Rhodes back? And he's like, oops, I was a

02:08:02.359 --> 02:08:06.319
variant the whole time. I was a Kang variant

02:08:06.319 --> 02:08:09.560
and I got sucked into the timeline by whoever.

02:08:10.199 --> 02:08:14.399
Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. He was, he's, what does that

02:08:14.399 --> 02:08:16.880
got? He's Jonathan majors without the controversy,

02:08:16.979 --> 02:08:26.220
but all the crazy. So. Yeah, I think he where

02:08:26.220 --> 02:08:30.220
I mean, it's interesting to think this. I think

02:08:30.220 --> 02:08:35.619
Don Cheadle. Why his eye or why his war machine

02:08:35.619 --> 02:08:40.479
has and and James Rhodes has succeeded so well

02:08:40.479 --> 02:08:43.659
as he was able to, like, distinguish himself

02:08:43.659 --> 02:08:47.760
as his own character. Mm hmm. Terrence Howard,

02:08:47.880 --> 02:08:52.840
I think more reflected. Robert Downey Jr. in

02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:57.739
terms of like the energy and. Like how they spoke

02:08:57.739 --> 02:09:00.260
to each other, like they were both very quick

02:09:00.260 --> 02:09:03.100
witted with each other. And I think that their

02:09:03.100 --> 02:09:06.279
their chemistry was really strong and it was

02:09:06.279 --> 02:09:09.220
almost like a like I said, a reflection, like

02:09:09.220 --> 02:09:11.319
they were basically like the same character.

02:09:12.579 --> 02:09:16.960
And that where Don Cheadle is able to like distinguish

02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:21.600
himself a little bit more. As like his own person.

02:09:22.039 --> 02:09:25.779
Well, it's it's what's funny about whether it's

02:09:25.779 --> 02:09:28.560
Terrence Howard or Don Cheadle. Like if you're

02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:34.310
going for the buddy dynamic like that. It's still

02:09:34.310 --> 02:09:38.369
it's why I could never really get into whenever

02:09:38.369 --> 02:09:44.010
Anthony Mackie became the Captain America and

02:09:44.010 --> 02:09:47.149
then the new Falcon showed up. Like, I just I

02:09:47.149 --> 02:09:52.010
never fully bought in to their thing like I did

02:09:52.010 --> 02:09:55.680
immediately with. robert downey jr and terrence

02:09:55.680 --> 02:09:58.979
howard like or even the way he was able to do

02:09:58.979 --> 02:10:00.739
it with don cheadle when you're like this is

02:10:00.739 --> 02:10:04.119
a different guy uh and it still somehow worked

02:10:04.119 --> 02:10:07.180
like i don't know if that's like you know anthony

02:10:07.180 --> 02:10:09.880
i don't think anthony mackie is like a worse

02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:13.560
actor than robert downey jr like i i like him

02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:16.159
a lot as well i just for whatever reason it just

02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:19.720
didn't you know what i think it is because i've

02:10:19.720 --> 02:10:23.960
had the same thought This is what I think it

02:10:23.960 --> 02:10:30.500
is. The dynamic between like just comparing Anthony

02:10:30.500 --> 02:10:33.199
Mackie's dynamic with other characters, like

02:10:33.199 --> 02:10:41.500
his connection to Steve. It was a very. Like

02:10:41.500 --> 02:10:45.859
they were equals, more or less like like the

02:10:45.859 --> 02:10:49.680
one didn't feel like a sidekick. really like

02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:52.000
we i mean we knew that falcon kind of was the

02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:54.560
sidekick but they he didn't it didn't feel like

02:10:54.560 --> 02:11:01.000
that whereas the way that it was that he was

02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:04.960
acting with the new falcon it was more of a trainer

02:11:04.960 --> 02:11:09.500
trainee situation and then it was like in flight

02:11:09.500 --> 02:11:13.000
that they were supposed to kind of be like sidekick

02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:16.380
and if it just i think it was it was odd like

02:11:16.380 --> 02:11:20.060
there's a different dynamic between Sam Wilson's

02:11:20.060 --> 02:11:25.460
Captain America and Falcon versus Steve Rogers,

02:11:25.739 --> 02:11:29.779
Captain America and Sam Wilson's Falcon. Well,

02:11:29.859 --> 02:11:32.260
yeah. And especially like in this movie, like

02:11:32.260 --> 02:11:35.460
Terrence Howard, while not super powered, he

02:11:35.460 --> 02:11:40.600
clearly was, you know. Equal is the wrong word,

02:11:40.659 --> 02:11:42.739
but I'm going to say equal to Tony in the sense

02:11:42.739 --> 02:11:46.479
that he's like he could give Tony. He had something

02:11:46.479 --> 02:11:50.779
to offer Tony in the way of like, I'm I'm here.

02:11:50.920 --> 02:11:53.659
I can I can call off the missiles that are coming

02:11:53.659 --> 02:11:56.640
at you. You know what I mean? Like he he had.

02:11:58.239 --> 02:12:00.859
Yeah, Tony wasn't helping him. They were helping

02:12:00.859 --> 02:12:04.199
each other. So, yeah, I just said what you said,

02:12:04.199 --> 02:12:09.079
but different. Yeah, it was just. Yeah. I don't

02:12:09.079 --> 02:12:15.840
know. I don't know. It's hard to distinguish

02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:21.000
exactly what the difference is between Terrence

02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:26.380
Howard and Don Cheadle. But the biggest, I say,

02:12:26.520 --> 02:12:30.640
difference, and I know it's Don Cheadle's roads

02:12:30.640 --> 02:12:34.760
would have played it different. But when he was

02:12:34.760 --> 02:12:38.609
talking about the suit. and like when he was

02:12:38.609 --> 02:12:41.569
flying through afghanistan and like basically

02:12:41.569 --> 02:12:45.069
like attacking those planes yeah and everything

02:12:45.069 --> 02:12:49.250
and when when rhodes called him and he's just

02:12:49.250 --> 02:12:52.409
like yo do you have any tech out here blah blah

02:12:52.409 --> 02:12:54.470
blah and when he called he's just like who's

02:12:54.470 --> 02:12:59.510
this yeah and like giving him shit about it and

02:12:59.510 --> 02:13:04.779
he's just like And then like he immediately follows

02:13:04.779 --> 02:13:07.479
it up, like when he calls him, like when he's

02:13:07.479 --> 02:13:10.659
like, oh, got to go and then does his thing and

02:13:10.659 --> 02:13:12.960
then ends up getting like frickin smoked and

02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:15.699
then hides underneath the plane. And then he

02:13:15.699 --> 02:13:20.399
calls Rhodes back and he's just like, yeah, here's

02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:22.279
the thing. And he's like, who is this? And he's

02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:24.960
just like, oh, it's like it's me. Like, it is

02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:27.979
me. And then he starts panicking and then just

02:13:27.979 --> 02:13:32.779
like, it's me. I'm in that suit. it's almost

02:13:32.779 --> 02:13:36.439
I will say this because I'm trying to like figure

02:13:36.439 --> 02:13:39.100
out what the difference is too it's almost like

02:13:39.100 --> 02:13:44.260
this version of Rhodes and Tony were like very

02:13:44.260 --> 02:13:50.020
close friends and the version of Rhodes we get

02:13:50.020 --> 02:13:52.880
with Don Cheadle it's almost like they grew up

02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.710
together or like because like don cheetle is

02:13:55.710 --> 02:13:59.529
just like he seems like a warmer guy anyway like

02:13:59.529 --> 02:14:02.430
he just seems like someone that you like if you

02:14:02.430 --> 02:14:04.590
met don cheetle like in real life he would be

02:14:04.590 --> 02:14:06.609
like hey how's it going like he would make you

02:14:06.609 --> 02:14:08.869
feel like you guys were friends already even

02:14:08.869 --> 02:14:13.470
though you're very much not uh and i don't know

02:14:13.470 --> 02:14:16.090
i don't again, I didn't dislike Terrence Howard.

02:14:16.289 --> 02:14:18.850
I mean, I would love to live in the multiverse

02:14:18.850 --> 02:14:21.390
where he did get to go, go the whole distance

02:14:21.390 --> 02:14:26.470
and see how that all worked out. Uh, but I mean,

02:14:26.510 --> 02:14:29.270
listen, I'd put my name today as Tony stank,

02:14:29.310 --> 02:14:34.189
uh, as a tribute to Stanley and Don Cheadle's

02:14:34.189 --> 02:14:37.170
roads, uh, roadie. Cause he's like, yes, this

02:14:37.170 --> 02:14:43.619
is very much Tony stank. So, yeah, I don't know.

02:14:43.760 --> 02:14:46.960
Terrence Howard, great. Don Cheadle, I mean,

02:14:47.039 --> 02:14:55.340
got to pick Don Cheadle all day. Yeah. Obviously,

02:14:55.500 --> 02:14:58.539
I think we can all agree Robert Downey's number

02:14:58.539 --> 02:15:05.939
one. 100%. Listen, it's honestly a tie for me

02:15:05.939 --> 02:15:11.220
between him and what's -his -face Obadiah. Yeah,

02:15:12.020 --> 02:15:22.720
Jeff Bridges Daniels. He was so good in this.

02:15:22.840 --> 02:15:31.069
It's a shame that he had to die. It was such

02:15:31.069 --> 02:15:34.529
a real dude. Cause like the guy, whoever it was

02:15:34.529 --> 02:15:37.229
that was out in the desert, like that was a good

02:15:37.229 --> 02:15:40.130
bad guy, but he just looked like a good bad guy.

02:15:40.210 --> 02:15:43.630
Like there was nothing, there was no dynamic

02:15:43.630 --> 02:15:48.710
aspect to that guy. He was just a bad guy. But

02:15:48.710 --> 02:15:56.750
man, Jeff Daniels here. I'm kidding. you know

02:15:56.750 --> 02:15:58.949
he goes from dumb and dumber right into this

02:15:58.949 --> 02:16:02.329
and i'm like wow no he just i don't know he's

02:16:02.329 --> 02:16:07.210
just it's yeah it's like you said like you could

02:16:07.210 --> 02:16:11.149
feel the heat like radiating off of him when

02:16:11.149 --> 02:16:15.510
he's he built this in a cave with a box of scraps

02:16:15.510 --> 02:16:20.289
uh like okay how about when he goes in and uh

02:16:20.289 --> 02:16:22.750
pepper is downloading those last bit of files

02:16:22.750 --> 02:16:26.109
and he's talking He's like, he's like, I know

02:16:26.109 --> 02:16:29.470
what you're doing. And you're like, oh, shit,

02:16:29.649 --> 02:16:35.049
it's happening. And just that whole thing. And

02:16:35.049 --> 02:16:38.850
he and you. I I've seen the movie a million times

02:16:38.850 --> 02:16:41.629
at this point. I watched again and still was

02:16:41.629 --> 02:16:44.750
like, oh, yeah, he didn't know what was going

02:16:44.750 --> 02:16:47.010
on because he turns on the computer and he's

02:16:47.010 --> 02:16:49.850
like, son of a bitch. It's like I thought he

02:16:49.850 --> 02:16:52.770
did know what was going on. I really did. And

02:16:52.770 --> 02:16:56.920
by the way. checkoffs another checkoffs gun oops

02:16:56.920 --> 02:16:59.440
there's colson there hey i'm showing up for your

02:16:59.440 --> 02:17:02.680
uh for your schedule or your scheduled whatever

02:17:02.680 --> 02:17:05.319
he's like perfect awesome let's go right now

02:17:05.319 --> 02:17:12.620
interview so yeah i don't know it's it's hard

02:17:12.620 --> 02:17:15.440
because like you know robert downey jr amazing

02:17:15.440 --> 02:17:18.739
but i'm like i don't know if jeff bridges doesn't

02:17:18.739 --> 02:17:23.750
barely edge him out for me Dude, it is really

02:17:23.750 --> 02:17:28.389
close because he is my number two as well. His

02:17:28.389 --> 02:17:35.590
performance as Obadiah is staying crazy. I remember

02:17:35.590 --> 02:17:39.950
how crazy it was when Pepper went in to download

02:17:39.950 --> 02:17:43.770
all the stuff when we basically found out. They

02:17:43.770 --> 02:17:47.930
knew everything. Or did everything. It's insane.

02:17:50.260 --> 02:17:56.299
Absolutely insane. I will say, okay, I'm sorry.

02:17:56.459 --> 02:17:58.680
You just reminded me. I have to say this about

02:17:58.680 --> 02:18:01.299
the writing. I thought this while I was watching

02:18:01.299 --> 02:18:05.760
the movie. Whenever he went to his iron monger

02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:09.000
and was like, finally, I have my precious. I'll

02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:11.079
put it in here and it'll power the whole thing.

02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:15.700
And I'm like, how did he know what kind of plug?

02:18:16.200 --> 02:18:21.079
to put on the end of that thing. Dude, same thought.

02:18:21.799 --> 02:18:26.399
Same freaking thought. I'm like, that must be

02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:30.159
like a universal plug -in or something. That's

02:18:30.159 --> 02:18:36.799
crazy. Okay, I'm sorry. You know what? Actually,

02:18:37.020 --> 02:18:40.780
thinking about it, he did have the blueprints.

02:18:43.370 --> 02:18:47.069
So he had the, he had the Mark one blueprints.

02:18:48.469 --> 02:18:51.629
So, and then obviously like, he's not going to

02:18:51.629 --> 02:18:56.649
like, uh, Tony is not going to do a crazy, like

02:18:56.649 --> 02:18:59.950
big surgery to change the, the plugin system,

02:19:00.069 --> 02:19:04.510
his arc reactor. Like he, that's just going to,

02:19:04.549 --> 02:19:06.549
he's going to just take what he gets with that

02:19:06.549 --> 02:19:09.629
situation. By the way, again, that was another

02:19:09.629 --> 02:19:12.930
payoff when he's like, how'd you solve the icing

02:19:12.930 --> 02:19:16.969
problem? That's when you're like, oh, shit, it's

02:19:16.969 --> 02:19:19.750
about to happen. And oops, turns out, what icing

02:19:19.750 --> 02:19:29.350
problem? Oops, I'm smarter than you. But then

02:19:29.350 --> 02:19:34.149
he had the other. The way that he's just flying

02:19:34.149 --> 02:19:36.309
there for a second, he's just like, yeah, you're

02:19:36.309 --> 02:19:39.829
goddamn right. And then he starts sparking out

02:19:39.829 --> 02:19:42.829
and you're like, oh yeah, he has the arc reactor

02:19:42.829 --> 02:19:54.309
that's not meant for this. Freaking crazy. Who's

02:19:54.309 --> 02:19:59.069
your guys' number three? I forgot. Is Rose yours?

02:20:00.260 --> 02:20:02.639
No, so my number two, actually, I'd give it to

02:20:02.639 --> 02:20:07.040
Gwyneth Paltrow. Really? Yeah, I loved her performance.

02:20:07.239 --> 02:20:10.600
This is still my favorite movie with her in the

02:20:10.600 --> 02:20:15.899
whole MCU. I'm with you. Yeah, I love her introduction.

02:20:16.139 --> 02:20:18.719
I love her interaction with Tony. Literally everybody,

02:20:19.020 --> 02:20:21.440
especially, you know, they're only in a couple

02:20:21.440 --> 02:20:24.760
scenes together, but her and Coulson's scenes

02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:29.670
together are great. Love them. Yeah, she'd be

02:20:29.670 --> 02:20:32.370
my number two. Number three would be Jeff Bridges.

02:20:34.409 --> 02:20:38.270
Okay. So who would your number three be, DJ?

02:20:38.870 --> 02:20:41.629
I think I'm going to go just the opposite. So

02:20:41.629 --> 02:20:45.690
in order, I'm going, sorry, Jeff Bridges, number

02:20:45.690 --> 02:20:49.229
one, RDJ, number two. And even though it's funny,

02:20:49.350 --> 02:20:52.709
I am going to say Gwyneth Paltrow, number three,

02:20:52.729 --> 02:20:57.049
with an honorable mention of, what is it, Jensen?

02:20:57.290 --> 02:21:01.329
Is that his name? Yep. That dude, that guy will

02:21:01.329 --> 02:21:05.110
never get enough credit because I mean, he was,

02:21:05.110 --> 02:21:09.209
I mean, he was like the, what's the word I'm

02:21:09.209 --> 02:21:14.610
looking for. He's the, he was like the, I don't

02:21:14.610 --> 02:21:18.530
know. He, he was great. He was the, he was the

02:21:18.530 --> 02:21:20.829
muse. I'll say that he was the, the muse for

02:21:20.829 --> 02:21:24.219
Tony to be able to do this because like if. Tony

02:21:24.219 --> 02:21:26.739
had just been saved and they just left him in

02:21:26.739 --> 02:21:29.360
a cell by himself. The odds of that happening

02:21:29.360 --> 02:21:32.219
are much less than, you know, with him having

02:21:32.219 --> 02:21:35.559
this guy to talk to and get back to his family.

02:21:35.620 --> 02:21:38.819
And then again, one of the best written parts

02:21:38.819 --> 02:21:41.620
in this whole movie was when he's like, I'm going

02:21:41.620 --> 02:21:43.860
to see my family. And then you realize that his

02:21:43.860 --> 02:21:45.860
family's dead. And then he says it and you're

02:21:45.860 --> 02:21:51.520
like, Oh, it's like, this is what I, this is

02:21:51.520 --> 02:21:59.520
what I want. I'm like, Oh my God. It makes me

02:21:59.520 --> 02:22:07.100
want to cry. It's amazingly awful. By the way,

02:22:07.139 --> 02:22:09.680
Gwyneth Paltrow, she's the worst human being.

02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:14.879
I can't stand her as a person. She's great in

02:22:14.879 --> 02:22:24.620
this movie. I'm actually giving him Jensen, my

02:22:24.620 --> 02:22:29.739
number three spot. His performance, as small

02:22:29.739 --> 02:22:35.780
as it was, was so impactful. It's crazy how good

02:22:35.780 --> 02:22:40.159
he was in this. And it breaks your heart. Even

02:22:40.159 --> 02:22:44.459
after knowing his fate, that scene still freaking

02:22:44.459 --> 02:22:50.879
kicks you like a mule. Because you don't... I

02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:53.979
think it hits me more knowing what happens when

02:22:53.979 --> 02:22:56.219
he does talk about, oh, I will see my family

02:22:56.219 --> 02:22:59.819
again. But I'm like, when they're like just BS

02:22:59.819 --> 02:23:01.479
and when he's like, hey, what are you going to

02:23:01.479 --> 02:23:06.920
do when you get out of here? And no, that's the

02:23:06.920 --> 02:23:11.440
thing that freaking kills me, dude. And yeah,

02:23:11.540 --> 02:23:14.459
that I mean, that moment between him and Tony

02:23:14.459 --> 02:23:19.059
was just so. so thoughtful and like what i liked

02:23:19.059 --> 02:23:24.260
about it is you immediately knew who he was as

02:23:24.260 --> 02:23:27.459
a person when he's like get when they have like

02:23:27.459 --> 02:23:31.920
the the hot iron like in front of him or the

02:23:31.920 --> 02:23:34.979
coal or whatever it was yeah yeah yo what are

02:23:34.979 --> 02:23:37.540
you making what are you making and he's he's

02:23:37.540 --> 02:23:40.879
like he's doubling and tripling down being like

02:23:40.879 --> 02:23:44.629
we're building the jericho missile like Like,

02:23:44.629 --> 02:23:47.850
like, oh man, like this movie does so good at

02:23:47.850 --> 02:23:50.989
building like tension, which was stuff like that.

02:23:51.049 --> 02:23:56.790
Like with, with, with Jensen getting threatened

02:23:56.790 --> 02:24:04.909
with the, the, the hot coal or whatever. Then,

02:24:05.069 --> 02:24:09.469
then Pepper calling Tony or it was like Pepper

02:24:09.469 --> 02:24:13.979
Rhodes calling Tony to warn him about. Obadiah

02:24:13.979 --> 02:24:20.979
but he's like right behind him yeah like oh shit

02:24:20.979 --> 02:24:24.420
by the way between what I said what you said

02:24:24.420 --> 02:24:26.500
you convinced me to switch Gwyneth Paltrow is

02:24:26.500 --> 02:24:30.819
now my old honorable mention and this dude is

02:24:30.819 --> 02:24:36.959
number three because damn it son yeah um acting

02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:47.170
I think I'm gonna be uh Jeez. 89 feels low. I

02:24:47.170 --> 02:24:49.129
think I'm going to be at a 90. I think this cracked

02:24:49.129 --> 02:24:52.110
90s for me. I think their performances here were

02:24:52.110 --> 02:25:02.329
fantastic. Just all around. Where are you guys

02:25:02.329 --> 02:25:06.930
at? I'm just slightly above you. I'm at a 91.

02:25:08.430 --> 02:25:11.270
All the performances here are really, really

02:25:11.270 --> 02:25:16.059
good. i don't i feel i i do feel everybody brought

02:25:16.059 --> 02:25:21.600
their a game like honestly so 91 for me i actually

02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:27.120
also just put in 91 so there you go nice all

02:25:27.120 --> 02:25:29.219
right moving on over to character development

02:25:32.809 --> 02:25:36.590
this is an interesting one and i've i've sat

02:25:36.590 --> 02:25:39.790
here and i caught like i sat after the movie

02:25:39.790 --> 02:25:42.090
and i'm like this is going to be the hardest

02:25:42.090 --> 02:25:49.030
category for me to score because it does show

02:25:49.030 --> 02:25:53.610
like tony stark getting to his lowest point but

02:25:53.610 --> 02:25:56.049
he it's it's tough because it's like he never

02:25:56.049 --> 02:25:59.090
his spirit never really breaks and then he's

02:25:59.090 --> 02:26:05.309
always kind of consistently Like who he is. So

02:26:05.309 --> 02:26:08.250
I don't think that there's a whole lot of growth

02:26:08.250 --> 02:26:12.450
with this one. In terms of like his character.

02:26:13.950 --> 02:26:23.129
Unless you guys disagree. I would say. Yes. Only

02:26:23.129 --> 02:26:26.510
because like, I mean, if you look, if you're

02:26:26.510 --> 02:26:29.860
just going to go by like. how cocky he is all

02:26:29.860 --> 02:26:33.000
the time then he never has any character development

02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:36.739
at all he is pretty much except for a few moments

02:26:36.739 --> 02:26:39.600
uh maybe like after he was on a spaceship for

02:26:39.600 --> 02:26:44.440
a couple of months and almost died uh like he's

02:26:44.440 --> 02:26:47.079
just kind of he except for a few fleeting moments

02:26:47.079 --> 02:26:49.520
where he was like deadly serious about like what

02:26:49.520 --> 02:26:52.299
they needed to do he was basically i guess you

02:26:52.299 --> 02:26:54.200
could quote unquote say the same guy the whole

02:26:54.200 --> 02:26:59.860
time I would say he went from being the cocky

02:26:59.860 --> 02:27:03.579
guy. Again, this is like, I think I'm just, you

02:27:03.579 --> 02:27:06.280
know, trying to split hairs here, but like he

02:27:06.280 --> 02:27:09.760
went from the cocky guy who was convinced he

02:27:09.760 --> 02:27:12.600
could do no wrong. And that, you know, he was,

02:27:12.600 --> 02:27:15.299
he, okay. I won't even say cocky, the smartest

02:27:15.299 --> 02:27:20.520
guy on earth that he knew what direction that

02:27:20.520 --> 02:27:22.840
he was supposed to go in. And no one was going

02:27:22.840 --> 02:27:27.379
to. uh, get him off of that path. And really,

02:27:27.420 --> 02:27:30.319
if he had never gone there and, and demonstrated

02:27:30.319 --> 02:27:32.600
that Jericho missile, he never would have done

02:27:32.600 --> 02:27:36.239
anything different ever. Uh, but between getting

02:27:36.239 --> 02:27:40.719
exploded by his own bomb and then, uh, you know,

02:27:40.719 --> 02:27:43.100
making that decision and seeing those pictures

02:27:43.100 --> 02:27:46.079
that, that a reporter brought to him of, you

02:27:46.079 --> 02:27:47.780
know, even after he said that, you know, there,

02:27:47.920 --> 02:27:49.860
there are still these terrorists getting, uh,

02:27:50.139 --> 02:27:54.040
the, the Stark tech. to to fight with like he

02:27:54.040 --> 02:27:59.879
his mission changed i'll say like it it obviously

02:27:59.879 --> 02:28:05.379
it started to to that took more of a form like

02:28:05.379 --> 02:28:07.780
the longer you go with the story because you

02:28:07.780 --> 02:28:09.920
know you get to avengers and and all of that

02:28:09.920 --> 02:28:13.659
craziness happens and he kind of you know becomes

02:28:13.659 --> 02:28:18.440
more solid ira you know i don't know how to say

02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:21.479
what i'm trying to say but he i do think he changes

02:28:21.479 --> 02:28:24.739
but it's like the it's if you were if you were

02:28:24.739 --> 02:28:27.340
someone in the movie you might not notice that

02:28:27.340 --> 02:28:30.239
it ever happened but someone actually watching

02:28:30.239 --> 02:28:33.059
the movie you're like okay he is different he's

02:28:33.059 --> 02:28:35.379
got the same because i think what you also like

02:28:35.379 --> 02:28:37.079
when you're thinking of character development

02:28:37.079 --> 02:28:38.479
or when i'm thinking of character development

02:28:38.479 --> 02:28:41.319
you almost think of like an attitude or like

02:28:41.319 --> 02:28:44.899
a not necessarily a personality change but like

02:28:44.899 --> 02:28:48.280
something that's like a little more obvious where

02:28:48.280 --> 02:28:51.260
they're like i was this guy but now i'm this

02:28:51.260 --> 02:28:53.780
guy i'm a little more contemplative and i really

02:28:53.780 --> 02:28:58.239
think about stuff now and he is like very confident

02:28:58.239 --> 02:29:01.659
in who he is but i think what his character development

02:29:01.659 --> 02:29:07.399
was more of like uh his perspective shift shifted

02:29:08.350 --> 02:29:10.649
Like he had more of a perspective development

02:29:10.649 --> 02:29:13.229
than I guess character development. I don't,

02:29:13.229 --> 02:29:14.729
I don't know if that's really the right way of

02:29:14.729 --> 02:29:19.569
saying it either, but yeah, it's the best I can

02:29:19.569 --> 02:29:28.370
do. I could give you that for sure. Or like see

02:29:28.370 --> 02:29:33.780
that, see that perspective. Like, I think like

02:29:33.780 --> 02:29:36.780
you just saying that, like the where it wasn't

02:29:36.780 --> 02:29:39.739
really a character change, but it was more a

02:29:39.739 --> 02:29:47.420
mission deal like that's. That's interesting.

02:29:49.879 --> 02:29:55.459
Hmm. This is I mean, I'm I'm not ridiculously

02:29:55.459 --> 02:29:58.940
low on on character development. I'm probably

02:29:58.940 --> 02:30:05.120
in like. maybe like an 83 range like it's definitely

02:30:05.120 --> 02:30:10.200
above average which my my average is like 75

02:30:10.200 --> 02:30:14.620
it's definitely above there like for sure it's

02:30:14.620 --> 02:30:18.020
just not quite into the like overly exceptional

02:30:18.020 --> 02:30:23.680
range which i'd say is anything 85 and higher

02:30:23.680 --> 02:30:30.149
uh i can get behind that Because I also I didn't

02:30:30.149 --> 02:30:33.329
know how to really score this, but I'm like,

02:30:33.389 --> 02:30:37.969
it's it wasn't nothing, but it wasn't like I

02:30:37.969 --> 02:30:43.110
just don't think it's it's the. What you would

02:30:43.110 --> 02:30:45.329
normally if you if you were going to point it

02:30:45.329 --> 02:30:48.270
like something and be like, this is a great example

02:30:48.270 --> 02:30:50.770
of character development. This is not the movie

02:30:50.770 --> 02:30:53.729
that you would pick. Not that there was because

02:30:53.729 --> 02:30:56.190
there was none, but because it seems more subtle,

02:30:56.250 --> 02:31:02.629
I guess. Where are you at with it, Rose? I think

02:31:02.629 --> 02:31:07.610
I might be a little higher than you, Caleb. I

02:31:07.610 --> 02:31:14.950
think I'll be at 84. I do feel that it does do

02:31:14.950 --> 02:31:18.489
a good job at setting up who Tony Stark is and

02:31:18.489 --> 02:31:23.190
the character of Iron Man. From what I've heard

02:31:23.190 --> 02:31:25.969
from you guys, I definitely see where you're

02:31:25.969 --> 02:31:32.000
coming from. But I do feel for what it sets up

02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:35.059
with, how it wants to tell his story and his

02:31:35.059 --> 02:31:37.360
character arc. I feel for the most part, it does

02:31:37.360 --> 02:31:43.620
pull it off decently well. I'm with you. All

02:31:43.620 --> 02:31:47.459
right, moving on over to effects. These hold

02:31:47.459 --> 02:31:51.920
up surprisingly well, better than other MCU projects.

02:31:53.780 --> 02:31:57.940
Yeah, like. I mean, again, not to beat up too

02:31:57.940 --> 02:32:03.059
much on Ant -Man Quantumania, but damn it, son.

02:32:05.200 --> 02:32:12.100
MODOK was a nightmare. Like I could forgive Multiverse

02:32:12.100 --> 02:32:14.319
of Madness, that crazy eyeball on the forehead

02:32:14.319 --> 02:32:16.559
thing at the end. You know, people were very

02:32:16.559 --> 02:32:18.700
upset about that. That was just like a second.

02:32:19.239 --> 02:32:23.700
But MODOK was a lot of that movie where you're

02:32:23.700 --> 02:32:28.100
just looking at some wild nonsense or this movie.

02:32:28.200 --> 02:32:30.700
You're like, I don't know. Do you either of you

02:32:30.700 --> 02:32:33.500
know? Like, was there was this like practical

02:32:33.500 --> 02:32:36.520
mixed with CG or something? Because it looked

02:32:36.520 --> 02:32:41.579
a lot of this looked so good. And I know a lot

02:32:41.579 --> 02:32:47.459
of it, by the way, the sound effects. did a lot

02:32:47.459 --> 02:32:50.239
of work because like it just sounded like that

02:32:50.239 --> 02:32:53.079
suit had weight you know what i mean like when

02:32:53.079 --> 02:32:55.000
it would whenever it was closing up or whenever

02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.420
it was like getting you know screwed on to them

02:32:57.420 --> 02:33:00.879
or whatever like it sounded good you know what

02:33:00.879 --> 02:33:03.219
i mean so i think that also did a lot of work

02:33:03.219 --> 02:33:07.040
for uh making you know the suit look amazing

02:33:07.040 --> 02:33:09.020
but i don't know how much of it was practical

02:33:09.020 --> 02:33:12.139
and how much of it was cg so there was a decent

02:33:12.139 --> 02:33:17.059
chunk of it that was practical um a lot of the

02:33:17.059 --> 02:33:22.500
the suit it was like a lot like it was pretty

02:33:22.500 --> 02:33:25.840
much like the upper half of him was pretty like

02:33:25.840 --> 02:33:28.899
was all practical and then they very seldom showed

02:33:28.899 --> 02:33:32.239
the lower half um because they'd have to do that

02:33:32.239 --> 02:33:36.479
practically too this was still in a in a phase

02:33:36.479 --> 02:33:41.979
of cgi like really early cgi where they they

02:33:41.979 --> 02:33:46.120
couldn't do it like they had to do it the same

02:33:46.120 --> 02:33:49.360
kind of style that like they did with like jurassic

02:33:49.360 --> 02:33:53.700
park where it was very like there was a lot of

02:33:53.700 --> 02:33:57.020
math included because you had then you couldn't

02:33:57.020 --> 02:33:59.719
like visually see a lot of what what they were

02:33:59.719 --> 02:34:05.180
doing until later in production like there's

02:34:05.180 --> 02:34:08.139
a there's a there's a great video like one of

02:34:08.139 --> 02:34:10.860
the the the visual effects artists react i'll

02:34:10.860 --> 02:34:13.840
have to send it to you of them discussing iron

02:34:13.840 --> 02:34:21.120
man the only the only thing in this whole movie

02:34:21.120 --> 02:34:24.620
that i was like get the hell out of here was

02:34:24.620 --> 02:34:28.979
when we saw tony stark die uh whenever he put

02:34:28.979 --> 02:34:31.340
those boots on and was like we're gonna start

02:34:31.340 --> 02:34:35.780
at 10 and then he shot into that concrete wall

02:34:35.780 --> 02:34:42.010
tony stark died that day yeah Because he's a

02:34:42.010 --> 02:34:46.590
human. And no human can hit a concrete wall as

02:34:46.590 --> 02:34:52.969
hard as that guy did and be alive. That was literally

02:34:52.969 --> 02:34:55.690
the only thing that I'm like, no, absolutely

02:34:55.690 --> 02:34:59.010
not. You should have had him fly out a window,

02:34:59.069 --> 02:35:04.649
but not hit a wall. Oh my gosh, dude, for real.

02:35:05.770 --> 02:35:08.909
This is one that I am definitely in the higher

02:35:08.909 --> 02:35:19.170
80s with. I'm probably sitting probably in an

02:35:19.170 --> 02:35:25.489
88. I don't think I quite cracked into the 90s.

02:35:25.590 --> 02:35:29.549
And I think that's because of, funny enough,

02:35:29.670 --> 02:35:33.750
Obadiah Stane and his Ironmonger. like when it

02:35:33.750 --> 02:35:37.590
showed his face like it looked it looked odd

02:35:37.590 --> 02:35:40.549
like very obviously like where his suit would

02:35:40.549 --> 02:35:42.770
move a certain way but his body would move a

02:35:42.770 --> 02:35:45.870
different way that was kind of unnatural and

02:35:45.870 --> 02:35:49.010
it it pulled me out of it just just for a moment

02:35:49.010 --> 02:35:50.989
like it's not the biggest gripe in the world

02:35:50.989 --> 02:35:55.170
but well at least we know that they didn't uh

02:35:55.170 --> 02:35:57.829
update any of this technology when they made

02:35:57.829 --> 02:36:01.909
it to uh Was it Age of Ultron? No. What was the

02:36:01.909 --> 02:36:06.370
one where Hulk guy, he ended up in an Iron, the

02:36:06.370 --> 02:36:11.170
Iron Hulk suit? Oh my gosh, dude, for real. I

02:36:11.170 --> 02:36:15.549
mean, it was about the same. It was about, if

02:36:15.549 --> 02:36:17.850
anything, Obadiah Stane's might have been a little

02:36:17.850 --> 02:36:21.670
better. It was better. Truly, it was better.

02:36:25.809 --> 02:36:31.340
Where are you at with it, Rose? You know, I think

02:36:31.340 --> 02:36:34.420
I'm going to match you actually. I feel the only

02:36:34.420 --> 02:36:37.659
time that like, yeah, I'll agree with the Obadiah

02:36:37.659 --> 02:36:39.809
one, but yeah, it's definitely. better than uh

02:36:39.809 --> 02:36:42.549
what we got before i think the only time in this

02:36:42.549 --> 02:36:44.510
movie that like the effects are just like okay

02:36:44.510 --> 02:36:47.450
i could tell that that was cgi is when pepper

02:36:47.450 --> 02:36:51.450
walks in and um like he's like taking off the

02:36:51.450 --> 02:36:53.690
suit like all the mechanical arms are helping

02:36:53.690 --> 02:36:56.329
him take it off that's really the only time that

02:36:56.329 --> 02:36:58.870
i could tell like okay yeah this the way that

02:36:58.870 --> 02:37:01.549
downy's like head is positioned the way it's

02:37:01.549 --> 02:37:03.149
movie i'm like okay i can definitely tell that

02:37:03.149 --> 02:37:06.899
that is cgi But like, other than that, like every

02:37:06.899 --> 02:37:11.260
time that he's like suited up flying, um, like

02:37:11.260 --> 02:37:14.319
all those other times, like the effects are super,

02:37:14.399 --> 02:37:22.940
super good. Yeah. Um, I will say one of my, my

02:37:22.940 --> 02:37:31.709
favorite effects in this, um, Oh God. I was just

02:37:31.709 --> 02:37:33.649
thinking about it. Was it when he gets that little

02:37:33.649 --> 02:37:40.069
cricket gun and he blows up that tank? It just

02:37:40.069 --> 02:37:46.840
sounds like a little firecracker going off. amazing

02:37:46.840 --> 02:37:49.819
yeah well that was one of my favorite shot is

02:37:49.819 --> 02:37:52.479
when he gets hit by the tank and then this creator

02:37:52.479 --> 02:37:55.180
and then he like is crawling out and you see

02:37:55.180 --> 02:37:58.000
like the smoke or the the ash or whatever like

02:37:58.000 --> 02:38:00.540
across his face that scene is still freaking

02:38:00.540 --> 02:38:03.760
bitching but um but no i was talking about oh

02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:07.799
the uh with the stun thing when it's like when

02:38:07.799 --> 02:38:09.979
they activate it and it's just all the veins

02:38:09.979 --> 02:38:14.500
in their body start like kind of like yeah popping

02:38:14.500 --> 02:38:18.420
out of their head like oh crazy it looks super

02:38:18.420 --> 02:38:23.819
good all right by the way on over to wait first

02:38:23.819 --> 02:38:28.139
of all i didn't do my my score yet uh but i wanted

02:38:28.139 --> 02:38:31.020
to say too uh as far as effect like straight

02:38:31.020 --> 02:38:34.040
up practical effects went one practical effect

02:38:34.040 --> 02:38:37.120
that i enjoyed very much was at the front uh

02:38:37.120 --> 02:38:39.620
or at the front at the beginning when he was

02:38:39.620 --> 02:38:43.350
leaving the cave and just I mean, I don't think

02:38:43.350 --> 02:38:45.989
we've talked enough about how many people just

02:38:45.989 --> 02:38:49.010
got straight up killed in this movie. A lot of

02:38:49.010 --> 02:38:55.649
them burned to death. Vis -a -vis Iron Man going,

02:38:55.790 --> 02:38:58.170
yeah, I don't have guns yet, so let me just set

02:38:58.170 --> 02:39:02.969
you all on fire, which was insane to watch. I

02:39:02.969 --> 02:39:08.489
was like, oh, my God. I'm giving it a 90. I'm

02:39:08.489 --> 02:39:12.870
giving it a 90 because I grew up. with shitty

02:39:12.870 --> 02:39:17.750
movies like bad cg bad practical all of it and

02:39:17.750 --> 02:39:20.909
like talking about uh what is it jurassic park

02:39:20.909 --> 02:39:23.729
like this is a movie like jurassic park was what

02:39:23.729 --> 02:39:26.489
that was like the 90s or something though right

02:39:26.489 --> 02:39:30.430
am i right about that or was that early 2000s

02:39:30.430 --> 02:39:34.290
no jurassic park came out in the 90s that i mean

02:39:34.290 --> 02:39:38.399
that jurassic park came out that movie was like,

02:39:38.420 --> 02:39:42.459
you know, the masterclass of, of mixing practical

02:39:42.459 --> 02:39:46.860
and CG. And literally nobody did it even have

02:39:46.860 --> 02:39:50.700
that good forever. It seemed like, and I know

02:39:50.700 --> 02:39:52.219
there were movies that did it, you know, started

02:39:52.219 --> 02:39:55.780
doing it well before Iron Man, but like, I don't

02:39:55.780 --> 02:39:59.620
know, like this, the fact that these held up

02:39:59.620 --> 02:40:02.059
as well as they did is why this movie, I think

02:40:02.059 --> 02:40:04.239
that's part or a big part of the reason why this

02:40:04.239 --> 02:40:07.540
movie did so well. Cause. Robert Downey Jr.,

02:40:07.540 --> 02:40:13.959
Jeff Bridges, all these guys. I'm kidding. Sorry,

02:40:14.239 --> 02:40:18.280
Jeff Daniels. I messed up my own joke. I was

02:40:18.280 --> 02:40:20.479
going to say, oh, no, you got that one right.

02:40:22.159 --> 02:40:26.540
All the best actors in the world could not have

02:40:26.540 --> 02:40:31.059
saved this movie if the CG was ass. they'd be

02:40:31.059 --> 02:40:33.579
like, wow, these guys were really cool in it,

02:40:33.639 --> 02:40:36.739
but this looked like nothing. This looks like

02:40:36.739 --> 02:40:40.500
just, yeah, what used to be on Netflix whenever

02:40:40.500 --> 02:40:44.139
Netflix first came out. Just nothing movies.

02:40:44.399 --> 02:40:47.079
So yeah, I don't know. I give it a 90. I think

02:40:47.079 --> 02:40:50.639
that's, I don't know. I appreciated where this

02:40:50.639 --> 02:40:57.750
movie was for the time. I'm with you. all right

02:40:57.750 --> 02:41:01.909
moving on over to music this movie had a pretty

02:41:01.909 --> 02:41:07.290
bitching soundtrack he did i will say though

02:41:07.290 --> 02:41:10.590
during like the there was like some very like

02:41:10.590 --> 02:41:13.430
90s moments where like whenever he was going

02:41:13.430 --> 02:41:16.270
up against the the fighter jets and they just

02:41:16.270 --> 02:41:20.389
put in like the the royalty free music. That's

02:41:20.389 --> 02:41:24.370
like, this is, this is a jet jet fighting music.

02:41:24.530 --> 02:41:32.309
It's like, what is this? Yeah. Anything would

02:41:32.309 --> 02:41:35.590
have been, I think throwing in any other music

02:41:35.590 --> 02:41:40.670
would have messed with the tone. Because like

02:41:40.670 --> 02:41:43.870
a lot of the, that scene, it was focused on the

02:41:43.870 --> 02:41:48.030
conversation between. Tony and Rhodes. You could

02:41:48.030 --> 02:41:50.209
have thrown some Hells Bells in there and it

02:41:50.209 --> 02:41:58.430
would have been okay. Here's a controversial

02:41:58.430 --> 02:42:01.469
thing. I don't know if it quite cracked a 10

02:42:01.469 --> 02:42:05.129
for me. I don't think that's controversial. Yeah,

02:42:05.149 --> 02:42:08.229
I don't think it did either. I would call it

02:42:08.229 --> 02:42:12.889
a strong 8, maybe a 9. I'm at a strong 8. I'm

02:42:12.889 --> 02:42:18.950
at a 9. like i i was i'm sit like i'm more like

02:42:18.950 --> 02:42:22.370
if i if we'd had the the points i'd be like 9

02:42:22.370 --> 02:42:28.510
.4 but i'm rounding to the nearest i mean if

02:42:28.510 --> 02:42:31.690
you're going by like old school uh soundtrack

02:42:31.690 --> 02:42:34.770
standards which was like when i was like a kid

02:42:34.770 --> 02:42:38.170
kid and you would just a soundtrack was like

02:42:38.809 --> 02:42:41.069
it wasn't a i'm not talking about a score i'm

02:42:41.069 --> 02:42:42.790
talking about a soundtrack where you're like

02:42:42.790 --> 02:42:46.709
oh this movie has all the like before you guys

02:42:46.709 --> 02:42:48.969
okay i might make a reference that you may or

02:42:48.969 --> 02:42:51.250
may not know but we all know now that's what

02:42:51.250 --> 02:42:55.579
i call music right the scene like that's what

02:42:55.579 --> 02:42:58.620
soundtracks were back in the day it's like there's

02:42:58.620 --> 02:43:01.000
no way you could get all these songs on the same

02:43:01.000 --> 02:43:04.819
uh cd uh but sometimes there were like these

02:43:04.819 --> 02:43:06.719
movies that like yeah we got all these cool ass

02:43:06.719 --> 02:43:09.780
songs on here that you can get uh like this was

02:43:09.780 --> 02:43:13.680
that like before i don't know if captain america

02:43:13.680 --> 02:43:18.200
or thor did it but like there was no uh what

02:43:18.200 --> 02:43:21.159
is it like recognizable sting i feel like until

02:43:21.159 --> 02:43:24.659
the avengers you know what i mean like you just

02:43:24.659 --> 02:43:28.620
i would agree like you had cool cool music in

02:43:28.620 --> 02:43:31.100
the movies and again i'm sure i i think even

02:43:31.100 --> 02:43:33.700
you know captain america did try and make their

02:43:33.700 --> 02:43:36.639
own little uh you know captain america sting

02:43:36.639 --> 02:43:40.899
but nothing nothing stuck until avengers yeah

02:43:40.899 --> 02:43:45.899
i mean they do but it's also like With Avengers,

02:43:46.360 --> 02:43:48.879
it's like, yeah, if you say hum the Avengers,

02:43:49.159 --> 02:43:51.340
I can do that. If you tell me to hum Captain

02:43:51.340 --> 02:43:55.379
America's, I couldn't. But if you played it for

02:43:55.379 --> 02:43:57.479
me, I would be like, oh yeah, that's Captain

02:43:57.479 --> 02:44:01.159
America. So it's like that level of recognition,

02:44:01.540 --> 02:44:05.899
which is not, it's the same deal with Iron Man.

02:44:05.979 --> 02:44:07.840
I think they tried doing a score and it's just

02:44:07.840 --> 02:44:12.909
like, eh, you're not quite there. Yeah, that

02:44:12.909 --> 02:44:14.989
movie that would have been a completely different

02:44:14.989 --> 02:44:17.530
movie if it was scored instead of the soundtrack,

02:44:17.809 --> 02:44:20.149
because it's just it's not just not that type

02:44:20.149 --> 02:44:27.450
of movie. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So and what

02:44:27.450 --> 02:44:30.250
did you say you were at an eight? Yeah, I'm going

02:44:30.250 --> 02:44:34.590
eight. OK. All right. Moving on over to costumes.

02:44:35.590 --> 02:44:39.090
It's hard for me to not give this a 10. I'm giving

02:44:39.090 --> 02:44:45.909
it a 10. You can't. It's if just I mean, even

02:44:45.909 --> 02:44:48.770
if the Ironmonger wasn't one of the coolest looking,

02:44:48.930 --> 02:44:52.809
you know, bad guy versions of Iron Man, like

02:44:52.809 --> 02:44:56.129
it doesn't get cooler than Iron Man. Like it's

02:44:56.129 --> 02:45:01.969
it was it was so crazy that this thing that nobody

02:45:01.969 --> 02:45:06.299
knew or cared about. ended up being so cool that

02:45:06.299 --> 02:45:08.899
people were like we yes we need more of this

02:45:08.899 --> 02:45:17.459
more of this please yeah like the mark one armor

02:45:17.459 --> 02:45:22.780
amazing and then the mark two i freaking love

02:45:22.780 --> 02:45:25.959
the mark two like like what you were saying rose

02:45:25.959 --> 02:45:31.399
the freaking chromed out iron man suit sick and

02:45:32.190 --> 02:45:38.489
it made me excited for war machine and honestly

02:45:38.489 --> 02:45:41.870
did not disappoint the war machine armor freaking

02:45:41.870 --> 02:45:45.350
dope as hell especially when he started like

02:45:45.350 --> 02:45:49.290
getting like where it's like the super big torso

02:45:49.290 --> 02:45:54.250
and like looks oh god damn freaking love that

02:45:54.250 --> 02:45:59.829
shit where he looks like a goddamn tank loved

02:45:59.829 --> 02:46:04.209
it absolutely loved it um and then yeah and then

02:46:04.209 --> 02:46:09.510
classic the mark 3 was was sick like i freaking

02:46:09.510 --> 02:46:12.149
loved it like there was nothing about this that

02:46:12.149 --> 02:46:18.209
didn't just get my my nerd my nerd self just

02:46:18.209 --> 02:46:21.979
like flipping out by the way the the thing that

02:46:21.979 --> 02:46:25.040
makes this a 10 for me uh because i'm thinking

02:46:25.040 --> 02:46:27.319
about like i'm looking at my own shirt now like

02:46:27.319 --> 02:46:31.739
i'm just looking at this that suit did something

02:46:31.739 --> 02:46:35.280
that i feel like is impossible like i i i i'm

02:46:35.280 --> 02:46:39.299
sure again that there are other other instances

02:46:39.299 --> 02:46:42.989
where this has happened but like there's no silhouette

02:46:42.989 --> 02:46:46.370
to this. Like you couldn't see Iron Man for the

02:46:46.370 --> 02:46:48.569
most part out of context as a silhouette and

02:46:48.569 --> 02:46:51.629
be like, Oh look, there's Iron Man. Like I would

02:46:51.629 --> 02:46:54.209
say nine and a half times out of 10, like that

02:46:54.209 --> 02:46:57.639
is what, that is part of what makes a suit. like

02:46:57.639 --> 02:47:00.159
so amazing you know what i mean is like you can

02:47:00.159 --> 02:47:03.040
recognize it anywhere in any of its forms uh

02:47:03.040 --> 02:47:07.299
and somehow impossibly again on the pilot episode

02:47:07.299 --> 02:47:10.559
they got a guy basically they're like it's the

02:47:10.559 --> 02:47:13.840
silhouette of a guy and everyone was like we

02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:21.120
love that guy let's do more no do you care not

02:47:21.120 --> 02:47:26.280
even a little bit So, yeah, I don't know. This

02:47:26.280 --> 02:47:29.899
is great. This is an easy 10, I feel like. Iron

02:47:29.899 --> 02:47:33.020
Man is an interesting character because that's

02:47:33.020 --> 02:47:37.620
the thing that's kept me from giving 10s is the

02:47:37.620 --> 02:47:41.680
silhouette not being recognizable. Iron Man's

02:47:41.680 --> 02:47:46.520
an interesting case because I don't feel like

02:47:46.520 --> 02:47:50.700
you don't get a complete silhouette of Iron Man

02:47:50.700 --> 02:47:55.399
without the arc reactor. That's true. So the

02:47:55.399 --> 02:47:59.159
arc reactor is kind of a dead giveaway. Like,

02:47:59.180 --> 02:48:01.600
if you were to, like, with your shirt, like,

02:48:01.620 --> 02:48:03.780
if you were to black out Iron Man completely,

02:48:04.159 --> 02:48:09.100
if you covered the arc reactor, it's just like,

02:48:09.200 --> 02:48:11.760
okay, yeah, that's just some dude. But the arc,

02:48:12.719 --> 02:48:15.600
because it glows, it throws off the silhouette

02:48:15.600 --> 02:48:18.440
just enough where you're just like, I know who

02:48:18.440 --> 02:48:25.930
that is. Yeah. But I mean, other other characters

02:48:25.930 --> 02:48:28.530
like I mean, Captain America, like he's got that

02:48:28.530 --> 02:48:30.829
silhouette with the frickin shield and everything

02:48:30.829 --> 02:48:33.909
like they have something like a distinguishing

02:48:33.909 --> 02:48:38.610
feature. Iron Man's the one that that. It kind

02:48:38.610 --> 02:48:44.270
of cheats the silhouette. Yeah, that's fair.

02:48:46.049 --> 02:48:49.729
All right. Last up, we got personal scores. Rose,

02:48:49.790 --> 02:48:51.950
you want to take this one first? Yeah, sure.

02:48:53.369 --> 02:48:57.409
Yeah, this was such a solid first movie, not

02:48:57.409 --> 02:49:00.829
only for the Iron Man franchise, but just the

02:49:00.829 --> 02:49:04.389
MCU. And it's just a great superhero movie altogether.

02:49:05.450 --> 02:49:09.469
From the casting, the story, action, effects,

02:49:09.989 --> 02:49:15.290
this is one of the best origin superhero movies

02:49:15.290 --> 02:49:22.139
I've ever seen. And it's crazy to say that. hell

02:49:22.139 --> 02:49:27.659
over was this how old is this movie it's like

02:49:27.659 --> 02:49:33.459
13 years old shit yeah it's crazy to think that

02:49:33.459 --> 02:49:39.860
um it might be older than that 18 19 20 21 22

02:49:39.860 --> 02:49:46.860
23 24 25 56 17 what did you say i said 30 17.

02:49:47.200 --> 02:49:55.420
Jeez. Holy shit. That is crazy. Am I doing the

02:49:55.420 --> 02:50:02.100
math right? 2008 to 2018 is 10, right? So in

02:50:02.100 --> 02:50:09.739
2008, I was 12 years old. I'm now 29 years old.

02:50:12.719 --> 02:50:19.270
So. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's 29 minus 12,

02:50:19.469 --> 02:50:23.450
17. Yeah. Okay. I'm so bad at math that I'm really

02:50:23.450 --> 02:50:25.270
glad that worked out because I was just going

02:50:25.270 --> 02:50:28.489
to let it fly. And then I was waiting to get

02:50:28.489 --> 02:50:34.649
the phone call of like, you idiot. Dude, I'm

02:50:34.649 --> 02:50:37.610
so bad at mental math too. I was just like, the

02:50:37.610 --> 02:50:39.709
way I was doing that, I was like, okay, nine

02:50:39.709 --> 02:50:49.100
minus two, seven. Two minus one is one. One and

02:50:49.100 --> 02:50:56.399
seven makes 17. We did it. That's nuts, dude.

02:50:57.299 --> 02:51:05.979
17 years since Iron Man. Holy shit. Yeah. But

02:51:05.979 --> 02:51:12.540
personal score, I'm at a 91. All right. Where

02:51:12.540 --> 02:51:18.270
are you at, DJ? So this movie, I feel like did

02:51:18.270 --> 02:51:21.110
the impossible. I mean, I've said it, I feel

02:51:21.110 --> 02:51:23.850
like a million times during this episode and

02:51:23.850 --> 02:51:29.610
it again, 17 years old and I watched it a week

02:51:29.610 --> 02:51:33.950
ago and it is, I would be, if I had no context

02:51:33.950 --> 02:51:37.809
for the MCU at all, and this was my first thing

02:51:37.809 --> 02:51:43.069
I ever took in of it again, now in 2025, I would

02:51:43.069 --> 02:51:45.750
be a super stoked to see what was coming next.

02:51:45.850 --> 02:51:49.010
Cause I mean, even now it's just, I don't know.

02:51:49.049 --> 02:51:52.190
It's, it was everything you would want in an

02:51:52.190 --> 02:51:55.649
origin story. And again, a pilot movie for, for

02:51:55.649 --> 02:52:01.209
an entire universe of movies. And I don't know.

02:52:01.250 --> 02:52:04.590
I mean, I don't know if I'll be alive when anything

02:52:04.590 --> 02:52:08.809
like this happens again for any other, any other

02:52:08.809 --> 02:52:15.069
franchise. I am giving it a 99. Hell yeah. The

02:52:15.069 --> 02:52:18.549
end. Caleb was attacked by a bear and he did

02:52:18.549 --> 02:52:29.870
not win. Dom Rose, here we come. One chapter

02:52:29.870 --> 02:52:35.450
closes, another one begins. What is it? God closes

02:52:35.450 --> 02:52:39.290
a door and opens a window. All right. Did you

02:52:39.290 --> 02:52:43.469
submit it? Oops. I'm so sorry. I didn't, I thought

02:52:43.469 --> 02:52:45.350
you were going to say your thing, Caleb, or did

02:52:45.350 --> 02:52:50.850
you already? And I missed it. Huh? Oh yeah, I,

02:52:50.930 --> 02:52:55.729
I will. Sorry. No, you're good. I submitted it.

02:52:56.430 --> 02:53:02.829
Okay. Um, I am given this movie. I'm a little

02:53:02.829 --> 02:53:04.530
bit low. I'm lower than both of you guys. I'm

02:53:04.530 --> 02:53:08.590
sitting at like an 86 with it. It is. I know

02:53:08.590 --> 02:53:12.629
it is one of the better, like more rewatchable

02:53:12.629 --> 02:53:20.229
MCU films. I like it has a lot like there's a

02:53:20.229 --> 02:53:26.409
lot of nostalgia behind it for me. But I do find

02:53:26.409 --> 02:53:30.090
my I did find myself kind of like. dozing off

02:53:30.090 --> 02:53:32.409
or not dozing off just like not paying attention

02:53:32.409 --> 02:53:35.770
at times just during like the slower bits that

02:53:35.770 --> 02:53:38.870
i was like okay like so i think there's a little

02:53:38.870 --> 02:53:41.649
bit of like of stuff with the rewatchability

02:53:41.649 --> 02:53:44.469
but it's i mean it's not bad it's definitely

02:53:44.469 --> 02:53:49.610
one of the top tier mcu movies for me it's just

02:53:49.610 --> 02:53:54.049
not one that i like immediately jump to when

02:53:54.049 --> 02:53:58.479
i'm like feeling nostalgic For the MCU. Fair

02:53:58.479 --> 02:54:02.319
enough. Yeah. So anyway, I'm giving it a 90 or

02:54:02.319 --> 02:54:10.239
86. I heard 96. All right. All righty. So with

02:54:10.239 --> 02:54:15.100
that, that concludes this week's breakdown. Going

02:54:15.100 --> 02:54:17.959
through these categories real quick. Starting

02:54:17.959 --> 02:54:23.020
off with story. We kicked it off pretty well.

02:54:23.079 --> 02:54:27.170
Sitting at a 90 .67. Writing got a little bit

02:54:27.170 --> 02:54:31.989
of a bump, sitting at a 91. The acting is on

02:54:31.989 --> 02:54:34.709
the same level as the story, sitting at a 90

02:54:34.709 --> 02:54:40.270
.67. Character development is our lowest category,

02:54:40.389 --> 02:54:45.430
sitting at an 83 .33. The effects are sitting,

02:54:45.670 --> 02:54:50.549
got a pretty chunky bump, sitting at an 88 .67.

02:54:52.270 --> 02:54:56.299
Music is sitting at an 8 out of 10. The costumes

02:54:56.299 --> 02:54:59.360
are sitting at a 10 out of 10. And then our personal

02:54:59.360 --> 02:55:04.340
score averaged out to a 92. So with that, the

02:55:04.340 --> 02:55:07.239
final all -bros letter grade for Iron Man has

02:55:07.239 --> 02:55:17.799
come out to an A -. I like it. Yes, sir. Hell

02:55:17.799 --> 02:55:21.639
yeah. I wasn't sure it was going to crack the

02:55:21.639 --> 02:55:25.639
A - because of character development. I'm glad

02:55:25.639 --> 02:55:32.020
it did, though. I'm very glad that it did. All

02:55:32.020 --> 02:55:37.659
right. Let's see where this is sitting. Ooh.

02:55:39.860 --> 02:55:45.700
It barely cracked the A -. So our cutoff for

02:55:45.700 --> 02:55:53.000
an A - is 90%. Yeah, so it is sitting. At a 90

02:55:53.000 --> 02:55:59.520
.16%. Yeah. Is there anything lower than that?

02:55:59.540 --> 02:56:03.559
That is still an a minus. Yes. Funny enough.

02:56:04.299 --> 02:56:09.399
That's hilarious. It is. So it's yeah. The one

02:56:09.399 --> 02:56:13.819
movie below it. Is fantastic for the first steps.

02:56:14.319 --> 02:56:18.700
Get the no. Absolutely. All right. Well. It was

02:56:18.700 --> 02:56:22.700
fun having become an actual member and I quit.

02:56:23.000 --> 02:56:28.680
That can't be right. There's no way. I mean,

02:56:28.680 --> 02:56:31.040
listen, I, what did I say? Fantastic four was

02:56:31.040 --> 02:56:35.520
like a solid C. I'd even call it a B minus. Cause

02:56:35.520 --> 02:56:38.159
again, it wasn't terrible, but it just was like,

02:56:38.219 --> 02:56:42.940
it just was like, get on with it. A minus though.

02:56:43.020 --> 02:56:50.659
Get not. No. I wholeheartedly disagree. I rewatched

02:56:50.659 --> 02:56:53.379
it, dude. I still freaking love that movie. Same

02:56:53.379 --> 02:56:56.739
here. Are we talking about Fantastic Four? The

02:56:56.739 --> 02:57:01.879
Fantastic Four movie that just came out? I heralded

02:57:01.879 --> 02:57:08.420
his beginning. That movie. I still hold that

02:57:08.420 --> 02:57:12.139
movie in pretty high regard, even though it has

02:57:12.139 --> 02:57:16.010
a lot of problems. Oh, it's got problems. It

02:57:16.010 --> 02:57:21.629
was, listen, that movie was like, it did a lot

02:57:21.629 --> 02:57:24.049
of things that Marvel likes to do, which is have

02:57:24.049 --> 02:57:26.049
scenes where things happen, where they go, ah,

02:57:26.389 --> 02:57:30.250
the thing. But it did something that Marvel movies

02:57:30.250 --> 02:57:33.309
usually don't do. which is in the last 30 minutes,

02:57:33.350 --> 02:57:37.049
instead of going, oh, shit, I forgot. We got

02:57:37.049 --> 02:57:39.409
to end this movie. They're like, oh, were you

02:57:39.409 --> 02:57:41.750
ready for this movie to be over? Guess what?

02:57:41.829 --> 02:57:44.370
The movie's just beginning. This is the only

02:57:44.370 --> 02:57:46.870
30 minutes anyone's going to ever care about.

02:57:47.129 --> 02:57:50.350
Check this shit out, everybody. And it was the

02:57:50.350 --> 02:57:53.030
coolest. That last 30 minutes was the coolest

02:57:53.030 --> 02:57:55.549
movie I ever saw. I was like, where was this?

02:57:55.629 --> 02:58:00.239
The whole movie. Where was this? the whole movie

02:58:00.239 --> 02:58:07.040
uh so yeah fantastic four first steps that's

02:58:07.040 --> 02:58:12.200
what we graded right yes definitely all right

02:58:12.200 --> 02:58:14.979
so do you guys want to hear well i mean we were

02:58:14.979 --> 02:58:17.219
already kind of on that road so you want to hear

02:58:17.219 --> 02:58:23.639
what it's uh so going through it is also sitting

02:58:23.639 --> 02:58:30.590
above thunderbolts It is above Rocketman. And

02:58:30.590 --> 02:58:35.030
so Thunderbolts Rocketman that we are in B plus

02:58:35.030 --> 02:58:42.270
the B plus range now. Then it is above Dawn of

02:58:42.270 --> 02:58:45.030
the Planet of the Apes and above Ghostbusters

02:58:45.030 --> 02:58:51.430
Frozen Empire. And above Elf. Yeah. Now going

02:58:51.430 --> 02:58:55.520
what it's below. It is sitting below the matrix.

02:58:57.319 --> 02:59:00.100
Wait, the first, not the first matrix, right?

02:59:00.180 --> 02:59:02.540
The first matrix. All right. As long as it's

02:59:02.540 --> 02:59:05.459
not, listen, I, okay, wait, everyone stop. I

02:59:05.459 --> 02:59:10.260
need to issue an apology for matrix resurrections

02:59:10.260 --> 02:59:13.940
or whatever matrix four was. I was a little too

02:59:13.940 --> 02:59:16.879
high on my own supply. Okay. I was just really

02:59:16.879 --> 02:59:19.620
stoked for a fourth matrix movie to come out.

02:59:20.270 --> 02:59:23.209
And I was very excited and I literally watched

02:59:23.209 --> 02:59:25.610
the movie and finished it five minutes before

02:59:25.610 --> 02:59:29.149
we were starting this podcast. And I may have

02:59:29.149 --> 02:59:32.409
given it an incorrect score. Don't you guys give

02:59:32.409 --> 02:59:34.610
special dispensation? You get to like change

02:59:34.610 --> 02:59:38.889
one score. Can I change that eventually? Sure.

02:59:39.090 --> 02:59:43.360
If you want to. I think I need to watch it one

02:59:43.360 --> 02:59:45.620
more time and I will, I'm sorry. The first matrix

02:59:45.620 --> 02:59:48.479
I'm with it. The first matrix in iron man being

02:59:48.479 --> 02:59:50.700
right next to each other. I think that actually,

02:59:50.760 --> 02:59:53.440
I, I like that very much. Cause I, I would hold

02:59:53.440 --> 02:59:55.459
those movies both in kind of the same regard,

02:59:55.680 --> 03:00:00.360
but sorry, go ahead. All right. It's also sitting

03:00:00.360 --> 03:00:05.799
below Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio. I got to

03:00:05.799 --> 03:00:10.590
watch that. You do. It's a weird movie. but it's

03:00:10.590 --> 03:00:17.829
it's not bad it's good um it is below seoul all

03:00:17.829 --> 03:00:24.829
right it's below us and it is below 1917. i have

03:00:24.829 --> 03:00:28.829
not seen us 1917 or pinocchio so there you have

03:00:28.829 --> 03:00:36.860
it folks the worst the worst all bro All right.

03:00:36.959 --> 03:00:45.280
Like we said and alluded to, we have an official

03:00:45.280 --> 03:00:54.000
MCU ranking for these movies now. And I think

03:00:54.000 --> 03:00:56.860
some of these are going to piss people off. So

03:00:56.860 --> 03:00:59.680
do we want to do top to bottom or do we want

03:00:59.680 --> 03:01:04.719
to do bottom to top? I want to do bottom to top,

03:01:04.840 --> 03:01:07.930
personally. Bottom to top. All right. So starting

03:01:07.930 --> 03:01:11.909
off at the very bottom, we have Ant -Man and

03:01:11.909 --> 03:01:16.450
the Wasp. Really? Yeah, which is sitting at a

03:01:16.450 --> 03:01:20.489
C. I would have traded another Ant -Man movie

03:01:20.489 --> 03:01:26.209
for that one. Honestly, same. All right. Then

03:01:26.209 --> 03:01:30.590
we got Thor the Dark World. Yeah, that's fair.

03:01:30.729 --> 03:01:36.290
Which is at a C+. Oh, man, this one hurts a little

03:01:36.290 --> 03:01:42.750
bit. The Incredible Hulk. The Ed Norton one?

03:01:43.170 --> 03:01:48.370
Yeah. Damn. Then it's Captain America, Brave

03:01:48.370 --> 03:01:53.049
New World. All right. I hate. Those two need

03:01:53.049 --> 03:01:58.229
to be switched. Go ahead. Then our only B minus

03:01:58.229 --> 03:02:03.510
movie, Thor, Love and Thunder. That should definitely

03:02:03.510 --> 03:02:08.940
have been. Hey. I know this one hurt my heart

03:02:08.940 --> 03:02:12.760
a little bit. All right. Now we're in the B range.

03:02:13.979 --> 03:02:17.120
We have the Marvels. I was going to say that

03:02:17.120 --> 03:02:18.959
can't be right. Cause you haven't said the Marvels

03:02:18.959 --> 03:02:25.500
yet. No, the Marvels made it to be. That's impossible.

03:02:25.899 --> 03:02:27.959
Who did that? You guys didn't do it. Who actually

03:02:27.959 --> 03:02:32.899
did this? That one's all us. Yeah, we actually

03:02:32.899 --> 03:02:35.559
enjoyed that movie. Sorry, DJ. Then Ant -Man

03:02:35.559 --> 03:02:39.799
and the Wasp, Quantumania. Yeah, what the hell

03:02:39.799 --> 03:02:43.840
is wrong with us with that one? Then the first

03:02:43.840 --> 03:02:53.020
Thor. Okay. Then Thor Ragnarok. Yeah. Then Age

03:02:53.020 --> 03:02:58.559
of Ultron. Then Doctor Strange. Then Iron Man

03:02:58.559 --> 03:03:03.420
3. Captain America Civil War. I just need everyone

03:03:03.420 --> 03:03:08.059
listening at home. You heard it right. Doctor

03:03:08.059 --> 03:03:13.250
Strange is below. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse

03:03:13.250 --> 03:03:19.530
of Madness. Go ahead. Yeah, not proud of that.

03:03:19.829 --> 03:03:23.569
Then we got Captain America, the first Avenger.

03:03:23.590 --> 03:03:27.329
Wait a minute, hold on. Civil War got lower than

03:03:27.329 --> 03:03:32.510
the first Avenger? Wait, how many are left in

03:03:32.510 --> 03:03:41.840
this list? We're only... let's see how many we've

03:03:41.840 --> 03:03:50.700
only done 14 of 32 at this point of 38 damn this

03:03:50.700 --> 03:03:54.520
list is insane you need to re -put this at the

03:03:54.520 --> 03:03:57.620
front without me talking like hey i just wanted

03:03:57.620 --> 03:04:02.659
you guys to know This is our list. You all need

03:04:02.659 --> 03:04:06.399
to hear it and send us emails. All right. So

03:04:06.399 --> 03:04:10.559
those are all B movies. So from Marvel's to first

03:04:10.559 --> 03:04:15.819
Avenger. Now we're getting into B plus. Which

03:04:15.819 --> 03:04:18.280
gives us Spider -Man Homecoming, then Captain

03:04:18.280 --> 03:04:23.600
Marvel, then Iron Man 2. This one hurts. Captain

03:04:23.600 --> 03:04:31.540
America, the Winter Soldier. What? do you know

03:04:31.540 --> 03:04:35.239
what actually okay you do rose no dude that was

03:04:35.239 --> 03:04:37.639
you i saw how low you were with character development

03:04:37.639 --> 03:04:41.200
what the fuck dude okay captain america doesn't

03:04:41.200 --> 03:04:45.920
freaking develop any dude i beg to differ with

03:04:45.920 --> 03:04:50.079
that speech that he gives at the end if i could

03:04:50.079 --> 03:04:52.120
just have a side always gives rousing speeches

03:04:52.969 --> 03:04:56.790
It was character development at its finest. So

03:04:56.790 --> 03:05:02.270
suck. Screw yourself. Okay. Within a podcast

03:05:02.270 --> 03:05:04.770
I have to have right now, ladies and gentlemen,

03:05:04.809 --> 03:05:06.930
if you've heard me on this show before, you know

03:05:06.930 --> 03:05:09.629
that I have given these guys so much shit about

03:05:09.629 --> 03:05:11.930
these listings and how they put it and how it's

03:05:11.930 --> 03:05:16.489
some of it's insane. Do you know at home how

03:05:16.489 --> 03:05:20.090
sweet it tastes to see these two finally realize

03:05:20.090 --> 03:05:25.739
what I've seen? From day one. This is full insanity.

03:05:28.159 --> 03:05:32.100
Anyway, podcast over. Go ahead. All right. Then

03:05:32.100 --> 03:05:36.059
it is. So then it's Captain America Winter Soldier.

03:05:36.360 --> 03:05:39.819
Then Spider -Man Far From Home. The updated one.

03:05:39.959 --> 03:05:42.340
So that's including yours and Victor's score.

03:05:44.260 --> 03:05:48.479
Then Black Panther. Spider -Man Far From Home.

03:05:48.639 --> 03:05:51.170
Oh, that's the original Far From Home. Wait,

03:05:51.290 --> 03:05:55.909
Far From Home is above Homecoming? No, so the

03:05:55.909 --> 03:05:59.090
updated... This is what was freaking hilarious.

03:06:01.290 --> 03:06:08.270
When Victor and DJ scored Spider -Man Far From

03:06:08.270 --> 03:06:12.290
Home, it got lower. Once we added the scores

03:06:12.290 --> 03:06:17.309
together, it got lower than where it was. Victor

03:06:17.309 --> 03:06:21.760
was trying to bring it up. Oh, he ended up bringing

03:06:21.760 --> 03:06:27.000
it lower with the updated score. So the updated

03:06:27.000 --> 03:06:31.760
score is eighty nine point two. The original

03:06:31.760 --> 03:06:35.780
score was eighty nine point three five. Hilarious.

03:06:35.840 --> 03:06:39.840
So that so Spider -Man. So, yeah, far from home.

03:06:39.879 --> 03:06:45.940
The updated is is below the original. OK. OK,

03:06:46.000 --> 03:06:51.809
and then Black Widow. The Avengers. Thunderbolts.

03:06:51.829 --> 03:06:58.790
And that's all of our B+. This is going to drive

03:06:58.790 --> 03:07:03.549
me crazy. Yeah. Black. Oh, my God. Go ahead.

03:07:03.709 --> 03:07:07.329
I'm sorry. All right. Then getting into the A-,

03:07:07.329 --> 03:07:12.250
we have Fantastic Four, The First Steps. Then

03:07:12.250 --> 03:07:16.350
Iron Man. Then Doctor Strange in the Multiverse

03:07:16.350 --> 03:07:21.430
of Madness. Bullshit, no. Can I just really quickly,

03:07:21.809 --> 03:07:23.909
Caleb, I'm sorry, but can I correct you on something?

03:07:24.270 --> 03:07:28.190
What? So it's the Fantastic Four First Steps.

03:07:28.190 --> 03:07:32.469
Whatever, shut up. I'm just saying. Sorry. It

03:07:32.469 --> 03:07:34.149
always bugs me when you say it the other way.

03:07:37.030 --> 03:07:39.790
Yeah, the Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness.

03:07:41.329 --> 03:07:46.659
So this is... Then it's just yours and Victor's

03:07:46.659 --> 03:07:56.940
score for Spider -Man Far From Home. And then

03:07:56.940 --> 03:08:01.299
Shang -Chi, The Legend of the Ten Rings, Guardians

03:08:01.299 --> 03:08:06.040
of the Galaxy Vol. 2, The Eternals, Black Panther,

03:08:06.200 --> 03:08:10.620
Wakanda Forever, Avengers Infinity War, the first

03:08:10.620 --> 03:08:15.149
Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm sorry. Wait, wait,

03:08:15.149 --> 03:08:19.450
wait. So Wakanda forever is higher than the original

03:08:19.450 --> 03:08:22.629
black Panther is what you guys have come up with.

03:08:23.229 --> 03:08:27.250
Wakanda forever. Yes. It is above. What are we

03:08:27.250 --> 03:08:29.389
doing? Why? Why? I don't even know why I came

03:08:29.389 --> 03:08:31.350
here tonight. All right, man. We can look up

03:08:31.350 --> 03:08:40.479
like how this happened. Um, and then. Yeah, then

03:08:40.479 --> 03:08:42.559
Avengers Infinity War, Guardians of the Galaxy.

03:08:42.719 --> 03:08:46.639
That's all the A -. Now getting into the top

03:08:46.639 --> 03:08:52.219
four movies, which are all A -movies, are Avengers

03:08:52.219 --> 03:08:55.940
Endgame, Deadpool and Wolverine, Guardians of

03:08:55.940 --> 03:08:58.639
the Galaxy Vol. 3, and then our top movie is

03:08:58.639 --> 03:09:02.540
Spider -Man No Way Home. You know what you need

03:09:02.540 --> 03:09:06.489
to do? You want to talk about... TikTok engagement.

03:09:06.829 --> 03:09:10.190
Go ahead and make one of their slideshows and

03:09:10.190 --> 03:09:14.930
have it start with my ranking of Marvel movies

03:09:14.930 --> 03:09:20.809
and put this in that order on there and see the

03:09:20.809 --> 03:09:31.229
absolute shitstorm. Alright, let me go to...

03:09:31.700 --> 03:09:34.239
Let's go to this page real quick. And when or

03:09:34.239 --> 03:09:36.819
if you do, please tag me in that because I would

03:09:36.819 --> 03:09:40.680
like to get all the notifications as well. Like,

03:09:40.719 --> 03:09:42.659
oh, look, there's another thousand that showed

03:09:42.659 --> 03:09:50.920
up. All right. So let's see what Black Panther.

03:09:51.420 --> 03:09:55.360
Oh, wait, no. Listen, no disrespect to Wakanda

03:09:55.360 --> 03:09:58.920
Forever, but damn, son, Black Panther was better

03:09:58.920 --> 03:10:01.200
than that movie. That's just not even a question.

03:10:04.959 --> 03:10:09.780
Honestly, we were pretty comparable. The difference

03:10:09.780 --> 03:10:13.459
between Black Panther and Wakanda Forever on

03:10:13.459 --> 03:10:23.780
most categories was less than two. The thing

03:10:23.780 --> 03:10:27.760
that Wakanda Forever beat out was the story and

03:10:27.760 --> 03:10:34.760
the writing. Those are the big ones. That was

03:10:34.760 --> 03:10:37.799
the one that had Riri and Namor and all that

03:10:37.799 --> 03:10:41.440
stuff in it, too. Is that right? Yeah. We looked

03:10:41.440 --> 03:10:46.520
on it in pretty high regard because of how they

03:10:46.520 --> 03:10:50.159
dealt. with the death of chadwick boseman and

03:10:50.159 --> 03:10:52.840
how they were able to like write all that in

03:10:52.840 --> 03:10:58.979
and make it feel like cohesive i will say having

03:10:58.979 --> 03:11:02.700
uh the end i that is what i will say the end

03:11:02.700 --> 03:11:04.760
of that movie was good when they were like hey

03:11:04.760 --> 03:11:07.700
this is his secret son t 'challa it's like oh

03:11:07.700 --> 03:11:13.040
it can happen guys he's coming back yeah um and

03:11:13.040 --> 03:11:16.579
then our acting we gave wakanda forever higher

03:11:16.579 --> 03:11:20.340
and i i bet you that's because of angela bassett

03:11:20.340 --> 03:11:24.059
i i would have said i mean because she did good

03:11:24.059 --> 03:11:26.239
in that one scene but i mean she wasn't in much

03:11:26.239 --> 03:11:31.139
but the dude that played namor or namor uh he

03:11:31.139 --> 03:11:33.000
i do remember him being really good in that movie

03:11:33.000 --> 03:11:36.739
yeah uh character development we gave to the

03:11:36.739 --> 03:11:42.379
first black panther the effects we thought um

03:11:43.559 --> 03:11:47.239
Wakanda forever was better. That's not fair.

03:11:47.280 --> 03:11:50.059
That killmonger thing should be stricken from

03:11:50.059 --> 03:11:56.799
the record. This is an unbiased review. I still

03:11:56.799 --> 03:11:59.579
stand by the OG black, but listen, everything

03:11:59.579 --> 03:12:01.899
you're saying is correct. It's still somehow

03:12:01.899 --> 03:12:10.879
wrong though. All right. And then. Let's see,

03:12:10.920 --> 03:12:13.659
music and costumes were exactly the same. And

03:12:13.659 --> 03:12:17.120
then our personal score, we were higher on Wakanda

03:12:17.120 --> 03:12:20.819
Forever by a couple points. Like, not a huge

03:12:20.819 --> 03:12:24.719
difference on any of these. God, dude. This is

03:12:24.719 --> 03:12:29.680
the wildest list I've ever heard. This is so

03:12:29.680 --> 03:12:34.579
crazy. Like, the top 10 make pretty much a lot

03:12:34.579 --> 03:12:38.360
of sense. But, man, those first, even just the

03:12:38.360 --> 03:12:44.280
first 20. jesus christ man amazing please i'm

03:12:44.280 --> 03:12:45.780
telling you i don't know how many slides you

03:12:45.780 --> 03:12:49.540
can put in a slideshow but man i mean i can do

03:12:49.540 --> 03:12:53.020
it so you could always split it up by phases

03:12:53.020 --> 03:12:58.200
true you know or like by uh what is it by uh

03:12:58.200 --> 03:13:01.299
grades like these are the ones we gave c these

03:13:01.299 --> 03:13:04.120
ones we gave b yeah there you go why are you

03:13:04.120 --> 03:13:11.270
being difficult because i'm trying to find i

03:13:11.270 --> 03:13:14.829
figure out how to sort these freaking the filter's

03:13:14.829 --> 03:13:19.290
not working i'm trying to figure out like why

03:13:19.290 --> 03:13:22.530
there's some that are like higher than others

03:13:22.530 --> 03:13:27.469
let's see let's try that one god damn it okay

03:13:27.469 --> 03:13:29.309
were there any that you were wanting to compare

03:13:29.309 --> 03:13:34.930
i mean you'd have to say them all over again.

03:13:34.969 --> 03:13:36.809
And I'm not good. We've been here for so long.

03:13:36.850 --> 03:13:39.389
I would never make you do that. But they definitely,

03:13:39.530 --> 03:13:43.370
there are a couple in there that just, I mean,

03:13:43.489 --> 03:13:49.569
get out of here. Yeah. I think before we, before

03:13:49.569 --> 03:13:53.549
we log off, I think Rose and I need to readdress

03:13:53.549 --> 03:14:00.739
Ant -Man and the Wasp. Yes. I would definitely

03:14:00.739 --> 03:14:03.139
agree with that. And switching it with Quantumania

03:14:03.139 --> 03:14:07.239
or which one? Let's see. Yeah, because Ant -Man

03:14:07.239 --> 03:14:11.000
and the Wasp we have as like the bottom. I remember

03:14:11.000 --> 03:14:14.319
that movie being... Yeah, I like that. I remember

03:14:14.319 --> 03:14:20.219
liking that movie. I did too. Same here. So yeah,

03:14:20.260 --> 03:14:22.180
I think that's the only one that we need to readdress.

03:14:24.139 --> 03:14:26.760
now i will say in your guys's defense which i

03:14:26.760 --> 03:14:29.200
never do with these things but i will do it now

03:14:29.200 --> 03:14:33.959
is you know it's your your last place what was

03:14:33.959 --> 03:14:36.840
the actual grade of it it's still c right like

03:14:36.840 --> 03:14:39.799
yeah so it's ant -man and the wasp and it's sitting

03:14:39.799 --> 03:14:45.139
at 75 .33 so not like you know it's not like

03:14:45.139 --> 03:14:48.219
you're like f bad terrible like you're we're

03:14:48.219 --> 03:14:54.110
starting the the the the bid at sea so you know

03:14:54.110 --> 03:15:00.270
yeah like even once you get into like i mean

03:15:00.270 --> 03:15:05.889
the difference between like at this current score

03:15:05.889 --> 03:15:08.790
let me pull out the calculator so i don't look

03:15:08.790 --> 03:15:17.399
like a complete idiot so let's say like even

03:15:17.399 --> 03:15:20.120
going up quite, quite a bit. So talking about

03:15:20.120 --> 03:15:27.120
Dr. Strange, which is the, like, that's an 84

03:15:27.120 --> 03:15:31.360
.75. Yeah. That was the one Dr. Strange and multiverse

03:15:31.360 --> 03:15:34.500
of madness. Those two. There's a 9 % difference

03:15:34.500 --> 03:15:40.159
between those movies. Damn. By the way, underrated,

03:15:40.180 --> 03:15:42.079
like, obviously I don't think it was at the level

03:15:42.079 --> 03:15:44.760
of the other ones we talked about, but pretty

03:15:44.760 --> 03:15:49.440
good origin story. uh for that one as well it's

03:15:49.440 --> 03:15:52.360
it's funny it's just because like like we said

03:15:52.360 --> 03:15:55.639
this is why we try to focus as much as like the

03:15:55.639 --> 03:16:00.059
ranking is more just for funsies the score like

03:16:00.059 --> 03:16:02.600
the grade itself is what's really important because

03:16:02.600 --> 03:16:07.500
like if you were to ask me like what i like if

03:16:07.500 --> 03:16:11.239
like if i were to put a grade on like black panther

03:16:11.239 --> 03:16:16.020
and i said beam plus i'm i doubt i'd catch much

03:16:16.020 --> 03:16:19.299
flack for that but the fact that i'm saying black

03:16:19.299 --> 03:16:21.440
panther is better than captain america the winter

03:16:21.440 --> 03:16:27.479
soldier by by less than like what is it one percent

03:16:27.479 --> 03:16:34.319
it's like that's suddenly like you're crazy yeah

03:16:35.719 --> 03:16:39.840
Because you're crazy. Listen, man, if you gave

03:16:39.840 --> 03:16:43.579
me the Doctor Strange movie and Doctor Strange

03:16:43.579 --> 03:16:45.340
Multiverse of Madness and was like, hey, you

03:16:45.340 --> 03:16:47.979
got to watch one right now, I'm watching Doctor

03:16:47.979 --> 03:16:51.219
Strange all day long. If you give me Black Panther

03:16:51.219 --> 03:16:53.620
and Black Panther Wakanda Forever and say you

03:16:53.620 --> 03:16:56.059
got to watch one right now, I'm watching Black

03:16:56.059 --> 03:16:59.739
Panther. By the way, and then right after that,

03:16:59.799 --> 03:17:02.020
I'm watching Winter Soldier. Cause damn it's

03:17:02.020 --> 03:17:05.520
on. What a great movie. Uh, and by the way, I

03:17:05.520 --> 03:17:08.340
do want to say justice for age of Ultron. Eventually.

03:17:08.360 --> 03:17:11.020
I feel like that is going to be like the return

03:17:11.020 --> 03:17:14.860
of the Jedi of, uh, you know, Marvel movies where

03:17:14.860 --> 03:17:20.559
like way beyond when it was viable, it will get

03:17:20.559 --> 03:17:23.500
it's it's due. Like, I feel like return of the

03:17:23.500 --> 03:17:28.590
Jedi because it has, you know, Age of Ultron

03:17:28.590 --> 03:17:35.270
also did not get scored poorly. If we're looking

03:17:35.270 --> 03:17:39.450
at it objectively, is it the worst of all four

03:17:39.450 --> 03:17:42.930
Avengers movies? I think we can agree that it

03:17:42.930 --> 03:17:48.530
is. I would word it differently. Despite how

03:17:48.530 --> 03:17:51.370
much character it gives to Hawkeye, I can't argue

03:17:51.370 --> 03:17:55.069
that. It is the least strong Avengers movie.

03:17:55.629 --> 03:17:58.209
And that's exactly how it is. So if we're talking

03:17:58.209 --> 03:18:01.469
just Avengers movies, the way that it's ranked

03:18:01.469 --> 03:18:05.770
is Avengers Endgame, like top, then Avengers

03:18:05.770 --> 03:18:10.170
Infinity War, then the Avengers, and then Age

03:18:10.170 --> 03:18:13.809
of Ultron. So this is what I'm going to say in

03:18:13.809 --> 03:18:16.989
defense of Age of Ultron being better than...

03:18:16.989 --> 03:18:19.350
I don't know if this brings it out of the bottom

03:18:19.350 --> 03:18:24.430
spot of Avengers movies, but Age of Ultron...

03:18:24.760 --> 03:18:28.219
did the thing that current star Wars movies can't

03:18:28.219 --> 03:18:32.479
do, which is make a thing and then make that

03:18:32.479 --> 03:18:35.760
thing that they have, have so much story attached

03:18:35.760 --> 03:18:38.280
to it that you never would have thought that

03:18:38.280 --> 03:18:41.280
it actually makes the original property even

03:18:41.280 --> 03:18:45.680
more interesting in the long run. Cause what

03:18:45.680 --> 03:18:48.879
didn't I think that all started with, wasn't

03:18:48.879 --> 03:18:52.840
there a lady that like came to Tony. afterwards

03:18:52.840 --> 03:18:55.979
and like her son died in wachovia or something

03:18:55.979 --> 03:18:58.899
is that right yeah that was civil war was it

03:18:58.899 --> 03:19:01.540
civil war but she was talking about what happened

03:19:01.540 --> 03:19:03.159
in age of ultron though right because it wasn't

03:19:03.159 --> 03:19:05.520
her son there or kid there or something yeah

03:19:05.520 --> 03:19:11.260
like davis i want to say yes but i feel like

03:19:11.260 --> 03:19:21.319
it's racist because i don't know um uh But yeah,

03:19:21.399 --> 03:19:25.000
I don't know. Like it's, it's, I mean, you know,

03:19:25.020 --> 03:19:27.520
infinity war and end game were what they were.

03:19:27.620 --> 03:19:30.739
There's no, there is no, there is no back to

03:19:30.739 --> 03:19:32.979
the future too on those where you're like, this

03:19:32.979 --> 03:19:35.299
is what was actually happening behind the scenes.

03:19:35.360 --> 03:19:37.840
Like we saw what was happening. Everything happened

03:19:37.840 --> 03:19:41.700
there. The first Avengers movie, it's set up

03:19:41.700 --> 03:19:46.219
a lot, but I don't know. Well, I was going to

03:19:46.219 --> 03:19:50.690
say. It eats itself by the Infinity War, right?

03:19:50.829 --> 03:19:53.889
Is it Infinity War or Endgame where they go back?

03:19:54.489 --> 03:19:57.229
It's Infinity War, right? Where they do the time

03:19:57.229 --> 03:20:03.430
heist. No, it's Endgame. Listen, it's 173 hours

03:20:03.430 --> 03:20:09.940
of movie. I don't know. I don't know. I'm rambling.

03:20:10.020 --> 03:20:12.200
It's like midnight and I'm just talking at this

03:20:12.200 --> 03:20:14.459
point. I'm sorry. I apologize. You guys are right.

03:20:14.520 --> 03:20:19.159
I'm wrong. This metric is perfect and I am incorrect.

03:20:19.579 --> 03:20:23.899
Doctor Strange is worse than Doctor Strange and

03:20:23.899 --> 03:20:29.200
the Multiverse of Madness. Yeah, that one's...

03:20:29.200 --> 03:20:33.340
Let's see what the deal was with that one. Just

03:20:33.340 --> 03:20:37.139
for funsies. I mean, multiverse of madness was

03:20:37.139 --> 03:20:40.819
like way cooler in the sense of like, they went

03:20:40.819 --> 03:20:44.340
to some multiverses and you got to see, you know,

03:20:44.340 --> 03:20:48.979
some of the most bullshit CG in all of Marvel

03:20:48.979 --> 03:20:52.239
them. By the way, they had bullshit right next

03:20:52.239 --> 03:20:55.020
to awesome because they're like, hey, Mr. Fantastic

03:20:55.020 --> 03:20:58.659
string cheesed like like so many digital string

03:20:58.659 --> 03:21:02.680
cheeses. And then they had Black Adam or whatever

03:21:02.680 --> 03:21:05.139
his name is, like when he got his brain blown

03:21:05.139 --> 03:21:08.420
out when, by the way, is this guy dumb? Like

03:21:08.420 --> 03:21:11.079
he's got no mouth and he's like, huh? What do

03:21:11.079 --> 03:21:13.299
you mean, huh? Like, you know, when you talk,

03:21:13.379 --> 03:21:16.780
bad things happen, idiot. uh but i don't think

03:21:16.780 --> 03:21:19.200
he said huh i think he flipped out and he went

03:21:19.200 --> 03:21:24.540
and then it imagine imagine if a black belt was

03:21:24.540 --> 03:21:26.860
like i didn't know what to do so i just jumped

03:21:26.860 --> 03:21:33.920
in a wood chipper i didn't think uh uh but then

03:21:33.920 --> 03:21:36.959
it was yeah fantastic string cheese that dude

03:21:36.959 --> 03:21:40.000
when his brain caved in i was legitimately disturbed

03:21:40.000 --> 03:21:42.879
like that looked a little too real i was like

03:21:42.879 --> 03:21:46.510
oh this is This is why they hired Sam Raimi for

03:21:46.510 --> 03:21:49.829
this one second of a scene where this dude's

03:21:49.829 --> 03:21:59.930
skull liquefies. Yeah, the only like we did score

03:21:59.930 --> 03:22:03.950
multiverse of Ben is kind of high. Why did we

03:22:03.950 --> 03:22:08.010
give this music a nine? You got me, man. All

03:22:08.010 --> 03:22:14.459
right, hold on. I'm going to look that up. We

03:22:14.459 --> 03:22:18.899
both gave it a nine. We have no excuses. Yeah,

03:22:18.899 --> 03:22:20.659
what the hell's wrong with this? I was going

03:22:20.659 --> 03:22:25.200
to say, name a song from that movie. Yeah, that's

03:22:25.200 --> 03:22:29.979
maybe a seven at best. Yeah, come the Doctor

03:22:29.979 --> 03:22:39.579
Strange sting. Should we? Listen, I'm sorry.

03:22:39.879 --> 03:22:44.139
Do you know what we'll do? We'll do this next

03:22:44.139 --> 03:22:49.840
time. We'll go through these scores again. Hilarious.

03:22:51.500 --> 03:22:53.920
We'll just go through because all of our scores

03:22:53.920 --> 03:22:59.500
are on here other than a few. You guys used AIs

03:22:59.500 --> 03:23:06.879
to score this, didn't you? Yeah, we'll figure

03:23:06.879 --> 03:23:11.790
this out. We will release a freaking basically

03:23:11.790 --> 03:23:16.530
all of our MCU ranking once we get some of these

03:23:16.530 --> 03:23:25.469
ironed out. Anyway, with that, this has been

03:23:25.469 --> 03:23:31.229
the All Bros Podcast. That concludes this breakdown.

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03:24:02.299 --> 03:24:05.040
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03:24:05.280 --> 03:24:10.159
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03:24:11.659 --> 03:24:14.760
If there's anything that's going to do that for

03:24:14.760 --> 03:24:18.819
us, it's going to be releasing this MCU ranking.

03:24:23.000 --> 03:24:34.059
Yeah, which we will do here shortly. But yeah.

03:24:34.899 --> 03:24:37.420
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03:24:37.420 --> 03:24:41.420
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Links to their show will be in our description.

03:24:56.840 --> 03:25:00.520
Next week. I don't even know what we're doing

03:25:00.520 --> 03:25:05.420
next week. I think you guys have to quality control

03:25:05.420 --> 03:25:07.780
that whole list. I think that's what that episode

03:25:07.780 --> 03:25:15.180
is. I mean, that could be it. Do we want to do

03:25:15.180 --> 03:25:20.860
that or do we want to do Tron Ares? I'm interested

03:25:20.860 --> 03:25:23.959
because I'm not going to watch that movie. By

03:25:23.959 --> 03:25:26.100
the way, if anyone is still here, bless you,

03:25:26.139 --> 03:25:32.040
child. Seriously. For real. This might be the

03:25:32.040 --> 03:25:35.280
longest episode we've ever done. That could be

03:25:35.280 --> 03:25:38.559
true. I talk too much for that to be true. I'm

03:25:38.559 --> 03:25:43.059
sure I've done a four or five hour one. No. Part

03:25:43.059 --> 03:25:45.180
of the reason why I like this show is because

03:25:45.180 --> 03:25:48.879
I can. listen to you guys talk about a movie

03:25:48.879 --> 03:25:52.780
i'll never watch and uh i watched the first you

03:25:52.780 --> 03:25:56.459
know re like tron 2 or whatever the new trilogy

03:25:56.459 --> 03:25:59.840
thing is hated it i'll never watch another tron

03:25:59.840 --> 03:26:02.700
movie so please do that movie so i can know what

03:26:02.700 --> 03:26:08.079
was in it okay all right so that's that's what

03:26:08.079 --> 03:26:10.579
we'll do next week well you will do tron aries

03:26:10.579 --> 03:26:16.430
hell yeah yeah what's the guy's name that everybody

03:26:16.430 --> 03:26:21.430
hates the joker oh jared leto jared leto i kept

03:26:21.430 --> 03:26:23.409
thinking jake gyllenhaal i'm like i think everybody

03:26:23.409 --> 03:26:27.309
loves him uh yeah no i think a lot of people

03:26:27.309 --> 03:26:31.629
hate him too i don't i don't know for what though

03:26:31.629 --> 03:26:34.290
i freaking love jake gyllenhaal like anytime

03:26:34.290 --> 03:26:37.290
i see him doing anything like there's so many

03:26:37.290 --> 03:26:42.520
people giving him shit online I don't know. They're

03:26:42.520 --> 03:26:45.159
trolls because he's a handsome fellow. And they're

03:26:45.159 --> 03:26:47.979
like, I wish I was handsome. I wish I could have

03:26:47.979 --> 03:26:53.319
an excuse to get freaking 87 pack abs by doing

03:26:53.319 --> 03:26:56.379
some kind of UFC movie where I just fight people

03:26:56.379 --> 03:26:59.719
all day. Like, yeah, man, Jake Gyllenhaal seems

03:26:59.719 --> 03:27:03.440
cool. Like he seems like I would, I bet he wouldn't,

03:27:03.440 --> 03:27:05.959
but I bet he would do this podcast. If you asked

03:27:05.959 --> 03:27:11.510
him, that'd be sick. But he might. But he wouldn't.

03:27:11.510 --> 03:27:17.489
But he might. But anyway, look forward to us

03:27:17.489 --> 03:27:21.090
breaking down Tron Ares next week. Until then,

03:27:21.170 --> 03:27:23.670
this has been the All Pros Podcast. I'm Caleb.

03:27:23.850 --> 03:27:29.409
And I'm Jonathan. And I'm still a baby. And we'll

03:27:29.409 --> 03:27:36.149
catch you guys next week. Deuces. See ya. Bye

03:27:36.149 --> 03:27:36.329
-bye.