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What is up, bros? Welcome to the All Bros Podcast.

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I'm Caleb. And I'm Jonathan. And we are a couple

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of bros on a mission to give you guys the most

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detailed movie reviews out there with as little

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bias as possible. This week on the podcast, we

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are going to be getting straight into our breakdown

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of Thunderbolts, because once again, we had a

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week where we didn't watch shit. Yeah. Or at

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least I haven't watched anything. No, did I have?

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I don't know. Honestly, I mean, after watching

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Thunderbolts, I watched Black Widow again because

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I hadn't seen that in a while. So that's about

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it. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what I've been

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watching. I just finished The Righteous Gemstones.

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How was that? I heard that was really good. Very

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good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The finale is hilarious.

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All right. Great show. if you want to check it

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out what's it on again it's on max it is okay

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cool yeah it's um it's danny mcbride so he has

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a bunch of like hbo max like exclusive shows

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like he has one like where he's a baseball player

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uh called eastbound and down um i haven't watched

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that one i like i said just finished righteous

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gemstones He's also done another one called Vice

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Principals, and that one's funny as hell, dude.

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Okay. That one is so freaking funny. So it's

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him and Walton Goggins, which you would know

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the face. He played the ghoul in Fallout. He

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was also the bad guy in Ant -Man and the Wasp.

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Okay. Yeah. usually plays like kind of a bad

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guy but he's so freaking funny dude like he is

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hilarious like so they're they're like co -vice

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principals and their principal like retires and

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so they're trying like both of them are trying

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to like get the the principal job and like surprise

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surprise they ended the the district ends up

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hiring like an outside person uh just like just

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some woman Sorry, I hear a dog or something squealing

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outside. But yeah, so they start trying to think

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of ways to get her to quit or get fired. And

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so they go to her house. But on the way there,

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they fill her up full of meetings, give her a

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shit ton of meetings. And so while she's stuck

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in those meetings, they travel or start heading

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to her house. They stop at a house, and Danny

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McBride's character is just like, this is where

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she lives? This is a piece of shit. And Walton

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Goggins' character is like, this is my house.

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And he's like, it's mid -century, you bitch.

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And then he's like, just stay here. I need to

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grab something. Gets out of the car, and then

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he's like, it's a mid -century piece of shit

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is what it is. Because they, like, hate each

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other, but it's, like, mutual enemy. Yeah. And

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then they end up driving to her house, like,

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trashing the place while they're trying to find,

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like, stuff. And then Walton Goggins' character

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just, like, lights a curtain on fire. Oh, shit.

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Yeah, and then Danny McBride's character is just

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like, yeah, yeah, turns around. He's like, what

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the choo -choo? And, yeah, it's a super funny

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show, dude. Yeah. Yeah, but the way that he talks

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to the students. So Danny McBride's character,

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he's in charge of discipline with the students.

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And so it's so funny because he cusses at the

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students. Oh, no. And it's just like, I don't

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know. It's just like, you think it's fun? You're

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going to sit here and act like a bitch? Or just

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call the students pieces of shit? like i think

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he called like one like female student he's just

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like god like you're such a whore damn yeah like

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it's the funniest dude like it is it is so freaking

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funny like i freaking love that show oh man yes

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i've been watching that um what else i've been

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watching oh i've been rewatch so i i i'm re -watching

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daredevil and uh right now i'm on the defenders

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season one okay so i'm gonna make it all through

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like defenders then i'm gonna watch daredevil

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season three and then i think i'm gonna get into

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the daredevil born again nice which i'm super

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pumped for i've luckily been able to avoid spoilers

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on that oh good that's good it's unfortunate

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it's not doing that well with the streaming numbers

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Yeah, I wonder because I've been seeing it like

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isn't. The Daredevil show been like on the top

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list lately. Not like when it was on Netflix

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or the new Disney plus one. No, not not the Disney

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plus one like the Netflix show. I feel like I've

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seen that on top 10 and. I think on Netflix's

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chart, like, yeah, the original Daredevil has

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been like charting because I guess, you know,

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people getting excited for this new season. But

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beyond the trailer, Grace Randolph, with her

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movie math, she reports every week also the streaming

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numbers of how shows and movies do there. And

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I think it's Nielsen's top 10 chart. They'll

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report streaming numbers. And I think it's reporting

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daredevil born again. It's either on, it's like

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third or fourth, maybe fifth week of what they're

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reporting. It still hasn't hit the top 10, but

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the, like the net cause. So they transferred

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all of the Netflix shows over to Disney plus.

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I don't think I saw like maybe on just like,

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um, when she reported Netflix numbers, it might've

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been there. Okay. Cause Is it still Netflix original

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or no? That I don't know. I'll pull up my Netflix

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right now. Maybe it's not. Yeah, okay. Wait.

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Yeah, they took Daredevil off. I'm assuming they

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took all those shows off. Yeah. Now they're strictly

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just... disney plus shows um i don't know maybe

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i missed maybe maybe they did showcase that daredevil

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was uh hitting high numbers with uh people re

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-watching those first couple seasons but since

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daredevil born again is separate from that i

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did see that unfortunately that still is not

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trending for top 10 which sucks i mean because

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i've heard it's a really good season i've heard

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that too like and they have I think two more

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seasons that were green lit. Yeah. That's what

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I heard. Yeah. Or at least a second season. So

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like, it seems that that's still going forward

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despite low numbers. But that is unfortunate

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because I thought people were freaking like hyped

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for daredevil to be back, but it seems like no,

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not a lot of people showed up for it. Yeah. I

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think it's one of those things that like, i think

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marvel might have announced it too early and

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so it just lost a lot of hype because people

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were pumped about it when they announced it but

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they announced that shit back with like blade

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yeah that's yeah didn't they um announce that

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like at the comic -con like right after endgame

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came out yeah i think it was like they they announced

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it really really early but it was delayed a ton

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because of covid and shit okay and then i think

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it just kind of get kept getting pushed back

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and pushed back and yeah so now i think what

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i think their big problem was they lost the hype

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that sucks and i think that's like a big issue

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with how marvel handles things now is like they're

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trying they're pushing for like so many years

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in the future with like blade's never going to

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get made with mahershala ali um who knows what

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they're going to do with freaking uh black knight

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from eternals like they push so much at comic

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cons that they lose the excitement like i understand

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put like they need to just limit it like just

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announce what's already in the work yeah or what's

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been greenlit and like somewhere past like the

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like if it hasn't been completely 100 greenlit

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and it's currently being worked on don't announce

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it yeah like and then like i um spoiler alerts

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for this um for this breakdown that we're about

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to get into this is how these little post -credits

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scenes should work getting you hyped for what's

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coming up yeah not oh here's like like freaking

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waving that like the the uh what's it called

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the all -state commercial the i got you a dollar

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yeah seriously so far away in the future that

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we it's just like okay cool like just be hyping

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the next movie that's coming that we already

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know is coming don't be you know oh hey this

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might happen in the next five years but it might

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not we don't know Yeah, and that's what makes

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sense. It's just like, hey, you go to Comic -Con

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every year. You do D23 every year. Just announce

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what's happening between this D23 and next D23.

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You don't have to give us your five -year plan.

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No, seriously, because when... in the time that

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they announced Thunderbolts at Comic -Con to

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when it actually started filming, like, cause

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I think, yeah, like Florence Pugh posted a video

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on her social media, like day one of filming.

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I think it was like two to three years. It was

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a pretty long gap. Yeah. Which I mean, with the,

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the strike, I know that put a lot of stuff on

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hold. Fair. So it's, it's almost like you can't,

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you can't get too mad because of that. that gap

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but still like yeah announcing something two

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three years before it's even made is a little

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ridiculous yeah like just keep your seat just

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keep your projects under wraps like give us little

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nuggets like give us behind the scenes stuff

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of stuff that's currently being worked on that

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we know about and then like give us those little

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nuggets to kind of hold us over and then Come

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D23 and now it's boom. Here's a big project.

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Here's another big project. Here's another big

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project. All within the span of what's happening

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now and next D23 or next Comic -Con or whatever.

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Give us the year. Maybe a year and a half depending

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on what's greenlit and currently being worked

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on. Give us that span of time and we'll be freaking

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golden. That's what James Gunn is doing. He's

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like, I'm not greenlighting shit unless the script's

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already done and it's been properly greenlit.

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Everything needs to be in place before I'm telling

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you guys anything. And I'm like, mad respect.

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Dude, it's insane how much the future of Warner

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Brothers is on the shoulders of Superman. Straight

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up, it's got me real worried. Dude, if it's not

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successful, oh God. Yeah. I doubt that it's going

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to bomb. I do, too. I just can't believe freaking

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how crowded July is. Like, God damn. Yeah. Two

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superhero movies and a Jurassic Park movie. Geez.

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I think out of the three, I think Jurassic Park

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is going to do the worst. I disagree. I think

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Jurassic Park will actually do the best. Really?

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I, yeah, dude, drastic. You know, I know not

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everybody loved Jurassic world dominion, but

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it made over a billion dollars. So there's still

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a lot of love for this franchise and throw in

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Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey. And I

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don't know. I think that one's going to do well.

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The one that I'm, I hate to say like out of the

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three, I'm scared the most for fantastic four.

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yeah like the fantastic four is really going

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to be uh a nail biter yeah um oh dude i hope

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it's good i the fantastic four can't get screwed

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over again come on i know dude that if it gets

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screwed over again i'm gonna say it that's gonna

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straight up be a cursed franchise yeah no like

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seriously like dude if it i feel if it like um

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if the reviews aren't great if it fails at the

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box office because like i know thunderbolts isn't

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doing like tremendously at the box office but

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the reviews are there like the reviews are amazing

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so i don't think that they will change those

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characters screen time in avengers doomsday but

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a fantastic four is not only gets horrible reviews

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and is not financially successful i wouldn't

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be surprised if they diminished the fantastic

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four's role a little bit in avengers doomsday

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that they like maybe focus more on like the original

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x -men or x -men in general rather than the fantastic

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four that would make sense that would that would

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really make sense as much as i hate to see that

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i don't know They're going to pull this movie

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off, dude. Dude, I don't either. There's too

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much. Yeah. I've been thinking, even if you split

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these guys up a little bit, that's still a shit

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ton. If you split it into three and have three

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separate but interconnected stories going together,

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that's still a shit ton of people per team. because

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like it was it was it was the same thing with

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infinity war but they did a really good job balancing

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that yeah like kind of going half and half yeah

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but here you can't do half and half when you

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have a billion people and especially that many

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like characters coming back from i feel like

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almost back from the dead yeah like like it's

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like shang chi dude like him being in the in

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that is it's we haven't seen him in forever.

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Yeah. Would you say that they are just like Marvel's

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like wiped their hands clean with the eternals?

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Like, do you think that we'll ever see any of

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those characters again? Who knows, dude? I hope

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we do. I do. Yeah. Cause I feel we're, uh, two,

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um, two people that very few, um, actually really

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enjoyed that movie. Yeah. I actually recently

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rewatched it and I, I still like enjoyed it.

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Like, is it a little dark? For the overall MCU,

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yeah, but it was its own thing. It was special.

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There was something special about the Eternals

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that I don't think very many people give it credit

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for. Agreed. Before we go on a complete tangent

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and start talking about Thunderbolts, let's say

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we officially get into this. Let's do it. Do

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you like movies? I do. Do you like The crew that

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works on movies? Kind of. And wait, you like

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to know what's going on behind the scenes? Ooh,

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that sounds neat. Oh, you should listen to the

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Failing Hollywood podcast. Wait, what's it called?

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Oh, Failing Hollywood. It's with real crew. How

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much is that a month? Oh, it's free. What? Free

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on all streaming networks. Holy shit. I know,

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with real prop guys. No way. Uh -huh. Jeepers.

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All righty. If you are new to our breakdown system,

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we have split movies into eight different categories

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that we individually score to come to a final

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all bros letter grade. The eight categories that

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we will be scoring this week are story. writing,

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acting, character development, effects, music,

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costumes, and then we'll be given our own personal

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score at the very end. All these numbers will

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get magically added up and spit through our algorithm

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and give us a litter grade to compare this movie

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to others of a similar grade. So, without further

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ado, if you have not seen Thunderbolts, Rose

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is about to spoil the entire freaking movie for

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you in our favorite segment that we like to call

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Reading with Rose. All right. In Malaysia, Yelena

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Belova destroys a laboratory on behalf of CIA

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director Valentina Allegra de Fontaine to conceal

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her involvement with the Ox Group's Sentry Superhuman

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Project. As de Fontaine faces imminent impeachment

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for her work with Ox. with the Ox Group, she

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dispatches Yelena, John Walker, Ava Starr, and

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Taskmaster to a covert Ox facility under the

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pretense of a mission. Once there, the operatives

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are pitted against one another in a deadly confrontation

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where Ava kills Taskmaster before they unexpectedly

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discover a mysterious man named Bob. Upon learning

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that they were sent by DeFontaine to be incinerated

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along with any evidence of her misconduct, they

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manage to escape from the trap. DeFontaine learns

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that the group has survived, including Bob, who

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was presumed dead during the sentry trials. When

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she arrives at the site, Bob creates a diversion

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by drawing enemy fire, allowing Yelena, Walker,

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and Ava to escape, only to sustain no injuries

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despite being shot. Yeah, freaking like firing

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squad shot, like goddamn. Dude, no joke. Bob

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then uncontrollably ascends into the air before

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passing out and crash landing back at the compound

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where he is captured and transported to the former

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Avengers Tower in New York City, now renamed

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the Watchtower. DeFontaine intends to introduce

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Bob to the press as a super -powered protector

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akin to the Avengers, hoping the PR stunt will

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avert her impeachment. Meanwhile, Alexei Shostakov,

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who had overheard details of DeFontaine's plot

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while working as a freelance chauffeur, rescues

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Yelena, Walker, and Ava. Inspired by Yelena's

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childhood soccer team, Shostakov refers to the

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group as the Thunderbolts. The Thunderbolts are

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pursued by DeFontaine's agents before they are

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ultimately apprehended by Bucky Barnes, who intends

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to have them testify in the impeachment proceedings.

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Upon learning that Bob was a subject of one of

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de Fontaine's top -seeker experiments, Barnes

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joins forces with the group to head to New York

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to... Wow. Sorry. Barnes joins forces with the

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group to head to New York to infiltrate the Watchtower.

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The Thunderbolts discover that DeFontaine has

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turned Bob into an immensely powerful superhuman

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known as the Sentry, who easily overpowers the

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team and forces them to retreat. As the Sentry

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develops a godlike delusion of superiority, he

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turns on DeFontaine. However, her assistant,

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Mel, incapacitates him while a failsafe Wow.

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Incapacitates him with a fail -safe kill switch.

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This triggers the emergence of the Sentry's destructive

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alter ego, the Void, who begins engulfing New

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York City in supernatural darkness, trapping

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its citizens in pocket dimensions based on their

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worst memories. Realizing the only way to stop

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the Void is from within, Yelena enters the darkness

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to reach Bob's consciousness. There, she faces

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her haunted past as a black widow and finds Bob

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hiding in a recreation of his childhood bedroom

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where his father abused him. They are soon joined

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by the other Thunderbolts, and together they

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travel back to the memory of Bob's initial experimentation

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in Malaysia where he volunteered for... where

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he volunteered for the procedure, hoping to improve

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himself after becoming an aimless drug addict.

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The Thunderbolts confront the void, but are swiftly

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overpowered. As the struggle threatens to fully

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consume Bob, the team... Sorry, the team intervenes,

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affirming their belief in him. Their solidarity

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empowers Bob to regain control, overcoming the

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void as light and normality returns to the city.

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With the threat neutralized, the Thunderbolts

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prepare to apprehend DeFontaine. However, she

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manipulates public perception by staging a press

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conference in which she rebrands them as the

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New Avengers. The Thunderbolts reluctantly agree,

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but Yelena threatens DeFontaine if she betrays

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them again. In a post -credit scene, the New

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Avengers and Bob discuss an ongoing problem in

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outer space when they receive a distress signal

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from an interdimensional spacecraft with a large

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4 emblem. Hell yes. Oh, man. So good. This movie

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was so good. We talked about this a little bit

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before. Taskmaster was done. so dirty so dirty

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we both just watching this in the movie when

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all all of them are fighting with each other

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and then taskmaster picks up her shield and just

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starts or was it is it she picks up her shield

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or pulls out her sword i can't remember uh i

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think it's her shield her shield okay and she

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starts walking towards walker because walker

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is her uh mission and freaking ghost just appears

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right in front of her and shoots her point blank

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in the head like damn yeah she got played hard

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yeah holy shit yeah everyone noticed in like

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the when they did the doomsday cast announcement

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that her name was not there like that actress

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i didn't pick up on that well yeah because they

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announced a billion people that's true and you

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know i just thought maybe she was gonna come

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this the second round because they did say that

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this isn't the whole team that's insane yeah

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but yeah like it's crazy but dude i loved this

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i did it got a little heavy on the politics for

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for a hot minute but i was personally okay with

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that like didn't really bother me um but I don't

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know about you. And, you know, I, I know I sent

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this thing to Caleb and I'm, and I'm, and I kind

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of regret sending it to him because I sent him

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a, it was like the real of like the class, the

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Avengers end game and credit scene. And I told

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him, you know, for how Marvel has been recently,

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I think I would have been okay with how. if this

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was the end of the mcu because i wouldn't have

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gotten hawkeye but i think i would have been

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okay if this was the finale this was the last

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thing that we got but you know now thinking back

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at it and you know a lot of people i swear whenever

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a new marvel movie comes out everyone's just

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like oh marvel is back they're back baby they

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are back they did it with guardians 3 they did

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with spider -man far from home now they're doing

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it with thunderbolts i don't know about you But

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I'm in the group that I don't believe Marvel

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ever left. Yeah, there have been misses, definitely.

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But I don't think that Marvel has truly buried

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themselves. They always pick themselves back

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up after a misfire. And after I sent that video,

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now thinking back to that, and after watching

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Thunderbolts, I'm like, yeah i don't know what

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the hell i was thinking i don't want well in

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marvel's defense everything prior to endgame

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was leading up to endgame like we knew that that's

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what it was leading up to we knew that they were

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dealing with the infinity stones in every in

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every movie they dealt with the infinity stones

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in some way shape or form like whether directly

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or indirectly but i'm thinking like iron man

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like the phase one was leading up to the avengers

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bit like putting the team together yeah like

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and then phase two was more expanding on the

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universe a little bit like it's giving us a little

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bit more in -depth look at the characters and

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then phase three was everything that led up to

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infinity war and endgame the issue came with

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everything after endgame because endgame felt

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so final yeah it like yeah it opened the door

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for for some things but not very many like like

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here's where well like where where i'm at with

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that like it left the it didn't really open the

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door for anything in regard to black widow other

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than her getting like there was no future for

00:27:13.690 --> 00:27:17.490
for black widow really so they had to jump into

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the past to kind of like give her some backstory

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which fine like whatever like you had to do it

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but i'm thinking like all the og avengers like

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they didn't leave them with anywhere to go like

00:27:31.809 --> 00:27:35.809
hawkeye like we just like it didn't lead him

00:27:35.809 --> 00:27:39.450
anywhere um definitely didn't lead hulk anywhere

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yeah definitely didn't leave like no one had

00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:47.960
like a path of where to go other than sam wilson

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like sam wilson he's just like oh this feels

00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:54.299
like someone else like he he was past the shield

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and it's like all right sick like we get to see

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him go and go on to become captain america which

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that was the plan with the winter soldier but

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no one else got that treatment So it's just like,

00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:10.819
okay, where do we go from here? Like, Marvel

00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:15.119
knew. Marvel knew they weren't done. Like, and

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so just, like, acting or treating us like that

00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:23.980
was the finale was dirty. Yeah. Like, I understand

00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:26.359
that they wanted, like, the grand finale. Like,

00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.039
oh, wow. Like, this is it. It's just, where do

00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.960
you... where do you take us to next? Like we

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know that there's more movies past end game.

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I feel it's clear that they really wanted to

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put a huge focus on the multiverse thing, but

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unfortunately that was very much a hit and miss.

00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:54.299
Yeah, absolutely. Like, I don't know, like very,

00:28:54.380 --> 00:28:56.440
like everything after it was just felt like they

00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.940
were taking a shot in the dark. Like, this is

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how, like personally how I would have ended.

00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:07.279
end game like now with with hindsight i would

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:09.900
have obviously like they didn't have like a cast

00:29:09.900 --> 00:29:13.420
for some people but i would have shown hints

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:18.339
of different heroes yeah i like that yeah like

00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:22.440
i would have hinted at the like at like the one

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.319
i'm trying to think of who like immediate like

00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.980
shang chi like you could have kind of hinted

00:29:26.980 --> 00:29:31.299
at shang chi you could have hinted at I don't

00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:32.960
know. I think you could have done like a little

00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:38.859
like tease for for Kate Bishop. Yeah. Like whoever

00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:42.079
like immediately was going to be like touched

00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.839
upon next, like you could have given them a little

00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.299
something. So we're like, all right, that's where

00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:49.099
that's going. That's like if you don't want to

00:29:49.099 --> 00:29:52.339
announce the next big bad, like fine. But just

00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:56.940
give us a guideline or a pathway of where these

00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:59.819
heroes are going. And it's just don't jump around

00:29:59.819 --> 00:30:05.039
from here to there. Because sometimes throwing

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.859
randoms in the mix, like the Eternals, is fine.

00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.700
But it's just like Falcon and the Winter Soldier

00:30:10.700 --> 00:30:14.059
should have led into something else. But it didn't.

00:30:14.059 --> 00:30:18.799
It led into nothing. Yeah. Until Brave New World

00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.819
came out. There was nothing between Falcon and

00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:24.460
the Winter Soldier and Brave New World that even

00:30:24.460 --> 00:30:28.690
kind of remotely... led you to believe that like

00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:33.170
that sam wilson was involved like it just kind

00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:36.329
of felt like okay like whatever i guess guess

00:30:36.329 --> 00:30:40.230
he's done doing that yeah like this is the problem

00:30:40.230 --> 00:30:45.269
with them like going so far out like here it

00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:49.750
was perfect you gave us something there's a pathway

00:30:49.750 --> 00:30:55.670
for them to um to kind of go down like with these

00:30:55.670 --> 00:31:00.769
thunderbolts or new avengers if you want to do

00:31:00.769 --> 00:31:03.529
that i think that's a dumb uh i i just hate that

00:31:03.529 --> 00:31:05.170
it freaking got spoiled for you before you saw

00:31:05.170 --> 00:31:08.109
the movie but i i had a feeling i know i had

00:31:08.109 --> 00:31:09.569
a feeling that was the route that they were gonna

00:31:09.569 --> 00:31:12.369
go but i'm just like dude just stick with thunderbolts

00:31:12.369 --> 00:31:18.710
cooler name yeah but no it's like they had a

00:31:18.710 --> 00:31:22.430
pathway and it's just like the end credit leads

00:31:22.430 --> 00:31:28.269
into fantastic four it just sucks it yeah it

00:31:28.269 --> 00:31:30.849
just sucks so that like um because you know this

00:31:30.849 --> 00:31:35.089
is the final um movie in phase five right this

00:31:35.089 --> 00:31:37.789
is yeah yeah this yeah this is the final movie

00:31:37.789 --> 00:31:41.529
in phase five so it seems like they're not they

00:31:41.529 --> 00:31:44.349
just finally got a game plan of where they want

00:31:44.349 --> 00:31:47.230
to take this but we're already this late in the

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:50.970
game yeah i'm gonna look it up real quick like

00:31:50.970 --> 00:31:54.019
what new marvel things are going to come out

00:31:54.019 --> 00:31:58.359
okay so oh sorry no sorry so it's thunderbolts

00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:04.880
then ironheart which is show fantastic four eyes

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.619
of wakanda marvel zombies wonder man all shows

00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:11.619
and then it goes straight into doomsday damn

00:32:11.619 --> 00:32:16.640
yeah okay So, it's seriously Fantastic Four than

00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.559
Doomsday. So, Fantastic Four needs to freaking

00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.920
set up what Doomsday is. Yeah. Like, hardcore.

00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.900
Damn. We go basically a whole year without a

00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:37.200
Marvel movie? Yeah. Looks like. Wow. It just,

00:32:37.420 --> 00:32:44.839
like, I don't know how you feel. but like i feel

00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.859
like yeah i would say that you know like marvel

00:32:47.859 --> 00:32:51.299
never left marvel has always been there but it

00:32:51.299 --> 00:32:56.079
just sucks that they've had so many misses recently

00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.779
despite all these hits that like you sometimes

00:32:59.779 --> 00:33:02.859
lose a little bit of hope in what you love so

00:33:02.859 --> 00:33:08.599
much in the mcu um but you you want to keep holding

00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:10.680
on to that hope that like okay you know like

00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.200
we just had ant -man and the wasp quantum mania

00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.380
yeah it wasn't great but then shortly after that

00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:20.519
we get um trying to think what came after quantum

00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.420
mania uh clearly clearly we're good with uh keeping

00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:27.059
track of marvel movies okay listen there's like

00:33:27.059 --> 00:33:31.400
a billion now that's true after i'm gonna be

00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.509
honest after end game it's been hard Yeah. All

00:33:34.509 --> 00:33:36.970
right. Let's see. Oh, wait. Is that chronological?

00:33:37.410 --> 00:33:40.410
Okay. So after Ant -Man. Oh, wait. That was Ant

00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:43.569
-Man and the Wasp. Quantumania. Wait a minute.

00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:47.109
What the hell? Where is it in order? God damn

00:33:47.109 --> 00:33:51.369
it. I got the chronological order. Was it Guardians

00:33:51.369 --> 00:33:58.470
3? Yeah. Okay. So Quantumania. Yeah. So Quantumania

00:33:58.470 --> 00:34:03.579
was the beginning of Phase 5. Oh, okay. So phase

00:34:03.579 --> 00:34:07.920
four was Black Widow, Shang -Chi, Eternals, No

00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.739
Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Love and Thunder,

00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:16.219
then Wakanda Forever. So this is how I see it.

00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:18.880
Black Widow, I think that was viewed as more

00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.440
of a miss. Which I totally disagree. Yeah, but

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:26.780
to be fair, Black Widow fits better in phase

00:34:26.780 --> 00:34:30.300
three. Oh yeah, 100%, considering it takes place

00:34:30.300 --> 00:34:34.239
between Civil War and Infinity War. yeah so like

00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.139
it i don't know the purist in me feels like phase

00:34:38.139 --> 00:34:41.599
four is like excluding black widow and then it's

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:46.719
shang chi which shang chi i feel was hit oh yeah

00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:50.019
i didn't have any issues with with that eternals

00:34:50.019 --> 00:34:55.639
was i think ultimately a miss not like not personally

00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.900
because i loved it yeah but same here i think

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:03.150
just how it was viewed it was a miss No Way Home,

00:35:03.289 --> 00:35:07.369
hit. Oh, yeah. Multiverse of Madness, I think,

00:35:07.369 --> 00:35:11.590
was a slight miss. Yeah. Then Love and Thunder,

00:35:11.829 --> 00:35:16.889
total miss. Oh, yeah. Then Wakanda Forever, a

00:35:16.889 --> 00:35:22.510
hit. Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah, and so it's like they

00:35:22.510 --> 00:35:24.570
give you enough, like with Phase 4 at least,

00:35:24.670 --> 00:35:28.769
they give you enough hits for the misses to kind

00:35:28.769 --> 00:35:31.570
of be like, eh, but it's like every... every

00:35:31.570 --> 00:35:34.130
miss that you have, like you're going to lose

00:35:34.130 --> 00:35:37.809
people. Yeah. And so it's just like lower. And

00:35:37.809 --> 00:35:41.110
then once quantum mania miss, then guardians

00:35:41.110 --> 00:35:45.789
three absolute hit. Yep. Then we get marvels

00:35:45.789 --> 00:35:49.969
miss. Yeah. Then we did like that one. Yeah.

00:35:50.309 --> 00:35:54.829
Then Deadpool and Wolverine hit. Yep. Brave new

00:35:54.829 --> 00:35:57.630
world. I would ultimately say that's a miss.

00:35:58.530 --> 00:36:03.599
Yeah. And then thunderbolts. hit yep so it's

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:08.900
just like there where phase four it had like

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:14.599
like hits it was like slight miss hit like a

00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.219
little like not quite a hit not quite a miss

00:36:18.219 --> 00:36:23.199
like then like then miss and then then hit this

00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.699
is it's like back and forth it's freaking ping

00:36:25.699 --> 00:36:30.349
pong yeah so it's just like for every for every

00:36:30.349 --> 00:36:35.289
miss there's a hit yeah and like it's like yeah

00:36:35.289 --> 00:36:38.070
so it's like hey like yeah we got quantum mania

00:36:38.070 --> 00:36:40.489
but then we got volume three and then we got

00:36:40.489 --> 00:36:43.050
the marvels and then deadpool wolverine and then

00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:47.909
brave new world and then thunderbolts yeah so

00:36:47.909 --> 00:36:52.489
like yeah fantastic four needs to be a hit it

00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:56.420
does so like like thinking on it like yeah I

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:59.800
would have been okay if Marvel ended with Avengers

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.380
Endgame for how amazing that finale was. I would

00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:04.820
have been perfectly fine with it. Am I happy

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:07.460
that Marvel, the MCU, is still around? Absolutely.

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:12.679
But it does suck that in these phases, four and

00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:14.760
five, and with six coming up, we'll see how it

00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:18.500
is, we have had it split. It's been down the

00:37:18.500 --> 00:37:21.119
middle. There have been plenty of hits, but there

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.389
have also been plenty of misses. But I'm the

00:37:25.389 --> 00:37:27.170
kind of guy, and I'm sure Caleb is the exact

00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:30.869
same way, that we don't believe Marvel ever left.

00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:34.369
Yeah, there's been definitely some times that

00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:36.909
we're just like, ooh, it's kind of hard to root

00:37:36.909 --> 00:37:39.670
for you right now a little bit, Marvel. But we're

00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:41.190
still going to stick around. We're not going

00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:43.849
anywhere. And then when you have your next hit,

00:37:43.929 --> 00:37:46.980
we'll be right there front and center. that's

00:37:46.980 --> 00:37:49.900
how we've always been so yeah but i sometimes

00:37:49.900 --> 00:37:54.659
we're also superhero fanboys that is true the

00:37:54.659 --> 00:37:57.099
general public that aren't as into it are kind

00:37:57.099 --> 00:38:00.719
of over the misses yeah so it just sucks that

00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.320
like you know like you'll see like people like

00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:06.760
with thunderbolts like oh marvel is so back and

00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.159
then if fantastic four fails you'd be like oh

00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.360
well looks like marvel's in the crapper again

00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.670
like It sucks seeing those headlines. Fantastic

00:38:16.670 --> 00:38:22.050
Four is really going to be set. It needs to hit

00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:25.469
because it's setting the tone for Doomsday. If

00:38:25.469 --> 00:38:30.210
you miss with Fantastic Four, you've lost a good

00:38:30.210 --> 00:38:35.710
amount of hype for Doomsday. Yeah. With this

00:38:35.710 --> 00:38:41.679
year, I was stoked for Thunderbolts. it might

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:43.880
be my favorite superhero movie of the year. We'll,

00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.280
we'll see if we still got Superman. We still

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.139
got fantastic four, but out of all of these movies,

00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:51.639
fantastic four is my most hyped superhero movie.

00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.460
One, because the fantastic four have been my

00:38:54.460 --> 00:38:58.059
favorite team since I was a kid. And two, the

00:38:58.059 --> 00:39:00.519
fantastic four just fricking needs this win after

00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.159
fricking fan force deck. For real though. Yeah.

00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.219
And then gosh, I'm looking at the rest of fate,

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.639
like what they have for phase six. um i guess

00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:18.920
after doomsday two months later we get spider

00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.840
-man 4 which i guess has a title brand new day

00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:26.219
yeah i've seen i saw a meme that someone posted

00:39:26.219 --> 00:39:28.300
they're just like oh when they reveal it's spider

00:39:28.300 --> 00:39:31.699
-man a brand new day people that have i guess

00:39:31.699 --> 00:39:33.320
have read the brand new day comic i didn't know

00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.039
that there was a spider -man comic name that

00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.119
people are just like oh god like i guess shit

00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:43.619
goes down in that comic uh let's look i yeah

00:39:43.619 --> 00:39:47.260
i didn't look into it all right let's see uh

00:39:47.260 --> 00:39:51.440
okay it's a storyline in the amazing spider -man

00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:58.119
published in 2008 it's the aftermath of the status

00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:02.579
quo altering one more day storyline uh let's

00:40:02.579 --> 00:40:07.519
see publication okay so brand new day Spider

00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:11.079
-Man has not been seen for 100 days due to the

00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:13.579
implementation of the Superhuman Registration

00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:18.239
Act. He's been residing at May's house as he

00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.639
searches for... Well, he can't do that. Yeah.

00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.980
We're going to be missing one important factor

00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:27.559
in that storyline. Yep. He decides to visit the

00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.800
Daily Bugle. Publication is in severe financial

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.380
troubles. J. Jonah Jameson suffers a heart attack.

00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:40.599
Oh, shit. Robbie Robertson asked Peter to do

00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:43.059
what he can to get Spider -Man pictures that

00:40:43.059 --> 00:40:46.519
he believes would boost circulation, which convinces

00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.500
Peter to return to web slinging. There's someone

00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:56.059
who buys the bugle. He encounters a supervillain

00:40:56.059 --> 00:40:59.219
menace. Harry might have returned, but Harry's

00:40:59.219 --> 00:41:02.000
girlfriend provides an alibi. Okay, so what's

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:06.949
the story then? Hold on. let's just look up the

00:41:06.949 --> 00:41:12.389
synopsis okay so after god damn it whatever could

00:41:12.389 --> 00:41:16.730
you not freaking losers okay so after the events

00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:20.989
of one more day peter parker's marriage to mary

00:41:20.989 --> 00:41:25.369
jane has been erased spider -man's secret identity

00:41:25.369 --> 00:41:28.670
has been forgotten by everybody including those

00:41:28.670 --> 00:41:31.269
who knew about his identity before his public

00:41:31.269 --> 00:41:34.510
unmasking such as mary jane daredevil the fantastic

00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:39.130
four the avengers ant -man and so on okay so

00:41:39.130 --> 00:41:42.710
wait is this for the movie no this is not the

00:41:42.710 --> 00:41:46.869
movie it can't be the the fantastic four haven't

00:41:46.869 --> 00:41:50.489
even been introduced yet yeah i know i know and

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:53.750
same with daredevil like daredevil hasn't even

00:41:53.750 --> 00:41:56.949
met well that's not true well okay so the fantastic

00:41:56.949 --> 00:42:01.670
four is really the only yeah okay so uh But if

00:42:01.670 --> 00:42:03.050
it weren't for them, I would have believed that

00:42:03.050 --> 00:42:05.250
this was the movie synopsis. Aunt May is alive

00:42:05.250 --> 00:42:11.590
and well. Nope. Throw that out the window. OK,

00:42:11.670 --> 00:42:15.369
so. Oh, this is the event. Wait. So one more

00:42:15.369 --> 00:42:18.670
day is the events of. Oh, so all this stuff is

00:42:18.670 --> 00:42:21.489
the events of one more day. So one more day is

00:42:21.489 --> 00:42:26.809
what erases everyone's memory of him. Oh, his

00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:31.900
identity. So it's like it's it's some people

00:42:31.900 --> 00:42:35.199
recall that Spider -Man unmasked himself during

00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.820
the events of Civil War. However, they do not

00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:42.280
remember whose face it was in brand new day.

00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:45.460
It's established that Mary Jane and Peter were

00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:47.920
in a long term relationship. Things ended badly.

00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:53.659
The relationship is all right at best. As far

00:42:53.659 --> 00:42:56.179
as Peter remembers, he and Mary Jane did not

00:42:56.179 --> 00:42:58.840
get married, but were a couple since the day

00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:04.980
of like a failed wedding. Peter goes daily bugle

00:43:04.980 --> 00:43:09.139
heart attacks due to stress. One point, Spider

00:43:09.139 --> 00:43:11.179
-Man asked, do I know you? Mary Jane says we've

00:43:11.179 --> 00:43:14.800
met in another life. Spider -Man is not aware

00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.139
it is Mary Jane he's speaking to since she is

00:43:17.139 --> 00:43:20.559
covering up her identity as her current boyfriend's

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:23.719
hell or as her current. boyfriends tell her to

00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:26.760
do however in one moment i remember the deal

00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.420
after okay it just seems like it's dealing with

00:43:30.420 --> 00:43:32.940
the repercussions of what happens in one more

00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:37.460
day which is when peter kind of gives up being

00:43:37.460 --> 00:43:42.780
spider -man okay that's super vague yeah anyway

00:43:42.780 --> 00:43:45.219
but yeah i forget what what point we were trying

00:43:45.219 --> 00:43:47.820
to make but yeah brand new day tie art leads

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:51.480
into secret wars gotcha And then after that,

00:43:51.579 --> 00:43:57.019
it's just a lot of to be announced for any Marvel

00:43:57.019 --> 00:44:00.420
project. But yeah, like it seems like Marvel's

00:44:00.420 --> 00:44:02.880
slowing down a bit because, I mean, we got Fantastic

00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:06.400
Four in July. Then it's not until next May that

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.920
we get Doomsday. And then we get Spider -Man

00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:17.019
in July of 26. So May, then two months later,

00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.639
we get Spider -Man, and then a year later, we

00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.519
get Secret Wars in 27. Okay. But anyway, getting

00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.880
back to the movie we came here to talk about,

00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:33.360
that tangent was super far off road. But yeah,

00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:38.960
getting to this story, this was interesting as

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:42.800
hell. like just like like i said outside of the

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.019
the politics which kind of got like felt like

00:44:45.019 --> 00:44:48.219
they went on a tad too long at least for my taste

00:44:48.219 --> 00:44:53.199
um then it got into like the good where it's

00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:57.539
like all the all of them are like the targets

00:44:57.539 --> 00:45:00.780
for each other yeah and i love that like i was

00:45:00.780 --> 00:45:06.010
like that was like freaking crafty yeah no seriously

00:45:06.010 --> 00:45:08.309
yeah like each one was just like i'm not here

00:45:08.309 --> 00:45:11.650
for you i'm here for them you're like finally

00:45:11.650 --> 00:45:15.090
you know like elaine i love how objective i love

00:45:15.090 --> 00:45:18.190
how objective focus they are yeah i don't give

00:45:18.190 --> 00:45:21.510
a shit about you especially when taskmaster like

00:45:21.510 --> 00:45:23.409
you looks at elaine and she's like i'm not here

00:45:23.409 --> 00:45:26.369
for you like for how much freaking pass that

00:45:26.369 --> 00:45:30.889
they have yeah like dude like that was so well

00:45:30.889 --> 00:45:35.219
done and then yeah and then once ghost freaking

00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:38.059
killed taskmaster john was just like all right

00:45:38.059 --> 00:45:43.480
like i'm all free and clear oh man uh but yeah

00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:48.460
like everything flowed like really well it was

00:45:48.460 --> 00:45:52.340
like it was good like it got really really good

00:45:52.340 --> 00:45:56.380
like when when they finally like escape and everything

00:45:56.380 --> 00:45:59.119
and then they kind of like kind of have to refocus

00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.260
as a group like this is what i loved most about

00:46:01.260 --> 00:46:04.909
it is like it didn't take one moment of teaming

00:46:04.909 --> 00:46:08.690
up for them to become a team. Like it took multiple

00:46:08.690 --> 00:46:14.710
times of, of facing off together that like, I'm,

00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:17.489
I haven't read any of the Thunderbolts comics.

00:46:18.829 --> 00:46:21.929
And so you can't base this movie off that. Like

00:46:21.929 --> 00:46:25.550
none of these characters are. Oh, really? Okay.

00:46:25.989 --> 00:46:29.579
All right. Good to know. i mean but like the

00:46:29.579 --> 00:46:31.840
thought of i'm sure a lot of people when they

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.599
announce like oh which characters are going to

00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.139
be a part of this you're just like what like

00:46:36.139 --> 00:46:38.960
i mean when they first announced i was like okay

00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.539
like you know like this is like turning into

00:46:40.539 --> 00:46:42.539
like marvel's like suicide squad i'm totally

00:46:42.539 --> 00:46:45.579
in for this i love this um but i'm sure a lot

00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:46.760
of other people were just like how the hell are

00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:49.039
you going to make this work and they pulled this

00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.300
shit off flawlessly i know for characters that

00:46:52.300 --> 00:46:57.000
we really like with uh like pulling in ghost

00:46:58.110 --> 00:47:00.210
Like that was a character that I don't think

00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:05.010
many people cared about. Yeah. If I'm sure a

00:47:05.010 --> 00:47:07.349
lot of people don't even remember her. Yeah.

00:47:07.989 --> 00:47:11.320
And then. like other ones like john walker was

00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.699
a good one to pull in because like i'm so glad

00:47:13.699 --> 00:47:17.840
that he hated like i never hated him as much

00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:20.639
as everybody else did like i've always honestly

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.619
liked the character of john walker like i really

00:47:23.619 --> 00:47:26.079
like i really enjoyed him in falcon the northern

00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.639
soldier but this movie just proves like how good

00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.059
how good writing i mean i you know kind of jumping

00:47:34.059 --> 00:47:37.179
the gun over here with writing but how good writing

00:47:37.179 --> 00:47:41.739
can redeem a character oh yeah it's amazing he

00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:44.199
was a poorly written character like he was no

00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.159
he was he was one that i genuinely felt was just

00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.380
like misunderstood dude same here like really

00:47:50.380 --> 00:47:54.539
so the way that they handled his character in

00:47:54.539 --> 00:48:01.579
this movie fantastic yeah like so well done and

00:48:01.579 --> 00:48:04.469
oh sorry no i was just thinking and then like

00:48:04.469 --> 00:48:10.469
the introduction of of bob is just so beautiful

00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:15.570
dude easily my new favorite character i love

00:48:15.570 --> 00:48:19.909
bob so much what's the actor's name that plays

00:48:19.909 --> 00:48:24.559
him lewis pullman lewis pullman did you read

00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.119
that apparently like he tried really hard to

00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.699
get them to change the name from bob because

00:48:29.699 --> 00:48:31.840
he had just barely played a character named bob

00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.780
and top gun maverick yeah i'm glad that they

00:48:36.780 --> 00:48:41.360
stuck with it because it's fantastic yeah oh

00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:45.280
so good dude dude the freaking um you know like

00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.940
At the beginning, you see Yelena talking to Alexi,

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:52.980
but the way that he shows up after they escape

00:48:52.980 --> 00:48:56.280
the convoy and him just honking the horn, driving

00:48:56.280 --> 00:49:00.760
his red Guardian limo and Yelena's face just

00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.079
like, oh my God, are you freaking kidding me

00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:08.559
right now? Dude, these people. Oh my gosh. You

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:14.940
know what? I'll say it. This team up might. have

00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:18.619
beat the avengers for me like how they came together

00:49:18.619 --> 00:49:22.659
as a team beats the avengers dude i think i'm

00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:26.099
gonna have to agree i love these guys so much

00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:28.760
like everything like that they were like like

00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.800
everything about them just was amazing yeah like

00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:38.139
this is one of the best not only team -up stories

00:49:38.139 --> 00:49:42.889
but team -up movies i have ever seen yeah like

00:49:42.889 --> 00:49:47.690
this was just fantastic it was so good and they

00:49:47.690 --> 00:49:50.610
they what they did really well is that they focused

00:49:50.610 --> 00:49:56.389
on yelena and yes like that was that was their

00:49:56.389 --> 00:49:58.889
like the great thing and then obviously they

00:49:58.889 --> 00:50:01.829
had their little side uh relationships kind of

00:50:01.829 --> 00:50:06.429
going on um but it was perfect dude it was perfectly

00:50:06.429 --> 00:50:12.460
executed like i like i'm sure everyone has loved

00:50:12.460 --> 00:50:15.699
Yelena's character since black widow. Like everyone

00:50:15.699 --> 00:50:17.619
fell in love with her right after that movie.

00:50:18.420 --> 00:50:22.260
But the fact that she finally kind of like, you

00:50:22.260 --> 00:50:24.480
know, like they do a good job on focusing on

00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:26.340
all of the characters, like each character's

00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.719
back or not backstory, each character story makes

00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:31.980
sense. They get their moments to shine, everything

00:50:31.980 --> 00:50:35.260
like that. But this is definitely more so Yelena's

00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:39.619
movie. And what. Who she is as a character, where

00:50:39.619 --> 00:50:44.900
she wants to go. And I loved that. Just especially

00:50:44.900 --> 00:50:49.679
not only how this movie opens with how she's

00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.280
talking, how, you know, she's lost. She doesn't

00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.900
know what she is even doing here anymore. And

00:50:56.900 --> 00:50:59.820
I was telling Caleb this, like kudos to Marvel

00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:02.280
for doing a movie about mental health and just

00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.460
knocking it out of the damn park. Cause Bravo,

00:51:05.659 --> 00:51:09.369
like. absolutely amazing yeah i mean well you

00:51:09.369 --> 00:51:11.250
couldn't have done that with a better character

00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:14.969
like this is what's so good about marvel's characters

00:51:14.969 --> 00:51:20.230
is that they are so like tragically flawed like

00:51:20.230 --> 00:51:23.750
this is this is a storyline that i wish that

00:51:23.750 --> 00:51:26.090
we could have gotten with like hulk because it

00:51:26.090 --> 00:51:29.309
is like a multi -personality thing with century

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:32.070
like century in the comics like he does have

00:51:32.070 --> 00:51:36.829
his century which is very like superman -esque

00:51:36.829 --> 00:51:39.550
always doing the right thing but for everything

00:51:39.550 --> 00:51:42.730
good that he does he has this alter ego of himself

00:51:42.730 --> 00:51:48.449
the void that does bad yeah and so it's just

00:51:48.449 --> 00:51:51.650
like the way that they turn that into like a

00:51:51.650 --> 00:51:55.829
story of like depression was perfect brilliant

00:51:55.829 --> 00:52:00.530
oh my god oh dude and they made him scary as

00:52:00.530 --> 00:52:05.920
shit they did like dude when you first see him

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.840
just like flying up above you're like oh shit

00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:13.539
yeah what did they do to bob yeah dude when he

00:52:13.539 --> 00:52:15.980
like got completely encased in the shadows and

00:52:15.980 --> 00:52:18.079
just opened his eyes and all you see like you

00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:19.960
don't even see full eyes you just see like the

00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.360
glint around like around the white i was like

00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.099
oh god like so good this dude's a thing of nightmares

00:52:27.099 --> 00:52:31.539
straight up and then dude i like i don't know

00:52:31.539 --> 00:52:35.280
what it was the like what actually i know exactly

00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.420
what it was everyone turning into shadows probably

00:52:38.420 --> 00:52:40.360
the scariest thing i've ever seen in my life

00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.139
dude like seriously like dude especially when

00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:46.019
uh red guardian saves that one girl and then

00:52:46.019 --> 00:52:50.219
she just turns into dart i dropped flipped i

00:52:50.219 --> 00:52:57.440
was like oh my god yeah like oh yeah oh my oh

00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:01.400
my god I lost my mind, dude. I was just like,

00:53:01.420 --> 00:53:05.539
oh, chills. Yeah, I was freaking eating jerky.

00:53:05.579 --> 00:53:08.480
Well, like with that scene and I inhaled it.

00:53:08.820 --> 00:53:12.719
Oh, shit, dude. Like I was. Dude, it's insane

00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.119
what the void did to these characters. Like when

00:53:16.119 --> 00:53:20.460
John enters it for the first time and freaking

00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:22.380
like when he comes back and they're just like,

00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.940
Walker, you OK? And you see him look down at

00:53:26.940 --> 00:53:31.679
the. whatever uh the big elevator shoot yeah

00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.440
that they just climbed up and you see that he

00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.340
like contemplates it for a minute and then he's

00:53:37.340 --> 00:53:41.420
just like i'm fine like who well it looked like

00:53:41.420 --> 00:53:44.239
he was taking steps towards it i don't think

00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.800
he was contemplating like jumping or anything

00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:49.659
but i think he was like already walking towards

00:53:49.659 --> 00:53:54.900
it because of like what he saw with uh with center

00:53:54.900 --> 00:53:57.719
or with the void and yeah that's true like i

00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.539
mean i guess like i think he's just i think he

00:53:59.539 --> 00:54:01.800
just looked down to be like oh shit and yeah

00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.619
but he's like i guess like the void like put

00:54:04.619 --> 00:54:06.500
that thought into his head before he came back

00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:10.460
to his senses but just yeah like the the way

00:54:10.460 --> 00:54:12.460
that he like like comes back and he's just like

00:54:12.460 --> 00:54:17.860
i'm fine and like wow god damn yeah and then

00:54:17.860 --> 00:54:20.260
freaking like uh the storyline that they do with

00:54:20.260 --> 00:54:24.800
bucky um they how did you feel bucky's character

00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.579
was handled in this one i felt he was handled

00:54:27.579 --> 00:54:32.699
well like i think he like i thought that he was

00:54:32.699 --> 00:54:35.900
going to be like a failed congressman i'm glad

00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:38.179
that it was just him being like man screw this

00:54:38.179 --> 00:54:40.480
shit and then yeah dude that's what i thought

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.820
too yeah so like i completely heard wrong but

00:54:42.820 --> 00:54:44.579
i'm glad that i completely heard wrong because

00:54:44.579 --> 00:54:48.139
the way that they took his uh character way better

00:54:48.139 --> 00:54:52.860
with that so much better I like that there was

00:54:52.860 --> 00:54:56.920
a character that I really liked was the assistant

00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:02.099
to Valentina. Oh, Mel? Yeah, I loved Mel, and

00:55:02.099 --> 00:55:04.739
I loved how she was on the fence from the get

00:55:04.739 --> 00:55:08.219
-go. I liked that it wasn't like she was always

00:55:08.219 --> 00:55:11.039
doing what Valentina wanted without question.

00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:15.420
She was playing along and stuff, but she was

00:55:15.420 --> 00:55:20.269
just not wanting to push the button. incinerate

00:55:20.269 --> 00:55:24.210
them yeah like it felt good she's just because

00:55:24.210 --> 00:55:27.769
it felt like something realistic like hey i listen

00:55:27.769 --> 00:55:30.929
i need this job but i don't want to freaking

00:55:30.929 --> 00:55:35.010
kill people over it yeah yeah and then like how

00:55:35.010 --> 00:55:37.289
she was like always on the fence and got worried

00:55:37.289 --> 00:55:39.449
when bucky approached her and she's just like

00:55:39.449 --> 00:55:43.010
i like that she like the way that she asked like

00:55:43.010 --> 00:55:46.150
okay who's asking me like senator barnes or the

00:55:46.150 --> 00:55:51.190
winter soldier i'm like oh damn like you might

00:55:51.190 --> 00:55:53.030
want to be careful throwing that name around

00:55:53.030 --> 00:55:56.989
yeah seriously dad even felt that way when alexi

00:55:56.989 --> 00:56:01.989
uh kept saying that freaking like um like when

00:56:01.989 --> 00:56:05.090
they're in the the truck together and alexi is

00:56:05.090 --> 00:56:08.590
just like so what what kind of uh super soldier

00:56:08.590 --> 00:56:11.619
serum did you get he's just like i don't the

00:56:11.619 --> 00:56:16.780
frick uh which one the regular one yeah oh but

00:56:16.780 --> 00:56:20.280
like i loved his response to that oh hydra fancy

00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.400
oh but like i'm curious i got the russian one

00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.840
it got the job done i'm yeah but like what you

00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:30.380
said with mel like um like how like oh you better

00:56:30.380 --> 00:56:33.219
be careful when you use the winter soldier like

00:56:33.219 --> 00:56:35.840
makes you wonder like for how many times alexi

00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:39.469
said the winter soldier if that ever got under

00:56:39.469 --> 00:56:43.650
bucky's skin yeah dude there was a lot of that

00:56:43.650 --> 00:56:47.769
they did in this that like subverted my expectations

00:56:47.769 --> 00:56:53.449
that like did it in a good way like i'm thinking

00:56:53.449 --> 00:56:55.349
in that scene when they're in the truck and then

00:56:55.349 --> 00:56:57.309
she's like all right what's the plan and then

00:56:57.309 --> 00:57:00.389
he just comes breaking through the door they

00:57:00.389 --> 00:57:02.710
come out start whooping ass and then valentine

00:57:02.710 --> 00:57:06.809
is just like god like like i left the door open

00:57:06.809 --> 00:57:11.050
for you guys just come up damn is it you like

00:57:11.050 --> 00:57:15.210
alexi or yelena that says i love this plan uh

00:57:15.210 --> 00:57:18.929
no it was it was alexi is alexi okay everyone

00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:21.889
else is just like oh shit uh dude i freaking

00:57:21.889 --> 00:57:24.409
love when they're in the elevator shaft and they

00:57:24.409 --> 00:57:28.110
look up and yelena's just like so what none of

00:57:28.110 --> 00:57:34.170
us fly we all just punch and shoot the freaking

00:57:34.170 --> 00:57:38.150
love that dude fantastic gosh like this story

00:57:38.150 --> 00:57:44.650
was so well told it was so good yeah it was it

00:57:44.650 --> 00:57:47.969
was interesting like it had like those deep emotional

00:57:47.969 --> 00:57:51.489
moments that you that you want like it touched

00:57:51.489 --> 00:57:54.429
upon like it let the heroes kind of be humans

00:57:54.429 --> 00:57:57.789
yep like that was like my favorite part of it

00:57:57.789 --> 00:58:00.389
like yeah the action was all done and like really

00:58:00.860 --> 00:58:03.539
really cool but it's just that like that everyone

00:58:03.539 --> 00:58:07.539
got to be human for a minute was was good and

00:58:07.539 --> 00:58:11.699
that they ended up winning the day because of

00:58:11.699 --> 00:58:14.559
like basically winning the day with friendship

00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:19.380
yeah like showcasing that you're not alone people

00:58:19.380 --> 00:58:23.539
are here for you i loved that yeah like super

00:58:23.539 --> 00:58:28.980
good i loved when they like met up with the rest

00:58:28.980 --> 00:58:31.690
of the team And they're just like, oh, wait,

00:58:31.789 --> 00:58:36.789
the shadows put you through your worst nightmares.

00:58:37.289 --> 00:58:40.210
Like, are you guys okay? And Bucky's like, yeah,

00:58:40.250 --> 00:58:44.170
my past is pretty great. Dude, poor Bucky. I

00:58:44.170 --> 00:58:47.409
can't imagine what he went through. Yeah, when

00:58:47.409 --> 00:58:49.909
he said that, I'm like, oh. Yeah, he's just like,

00:58:49.989 --> 00:58:52.909
listen, I've been here a while. Like, you could

00:58:52.909 --> 00:58:55.170
tell because you're just like, oh, goddamn, dude.

00:58:55.289 --> 00:58:59.480
Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah. Like that's just

00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.500
hitting you with all this. Yeah. That's just

00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:04.320
like, I'm like, that's just all this shit that

00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.280
you did as winter soldier. Just think of like,

00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.760
that's not even counting the shit. Like Bucky's

00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:14.360
ashamed of straight up. Like he's got all like,

00:59:14.380 --> 00:59:17.000
not only does he have Bucky guilt, he's got winter

00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.300
soldier guilt too. Yeah. And then everyone else

00:59:20.300 --> 00:59:23.059
was like, yeah, I'm fine. Like Alexi was the

00:59:23.059 --> 00:59:25.099
only one that seemed like he was like legitimately.

00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.480
Okay. Yeah. It takes a lot to bring Alexi down,

00:59:29.619 --> 00:59:32.900
it seems. Yeah. I don't think he regrets anything

00:59:32.900 --> 00:59:37.000
that he did as a Guardian. Yeah. No, definitely.

00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.679
So good, dude. I'm pretty high here. I'm sitting

00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:48.460
at like 92 for story. I loved it that much. Yeah,

00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:49.699
dude. You know what? I think I'm going to match

00:59:49.699 --> 00:59:53.300
you there. Just fantastic. Oh, God. So great.

00:59:54.260 --> 00:59:58.429
Yeah. And writing, it's getting a bump. is getting

00:59:58.429 --> 01:00:03.929
a big bump i'm a like well okay first let's sorry

01:00:03.929 --> 01:00:05.650
i'm getting ahead of myself here let's first

01:00:05.650 --> 01:00:09.349
talk about writing um i feel you know going back

01:00:09.349 --> 01:00:13.110
to the whole mental health um thing there is

01:00:13.110 --> 01:00:16.869
so much good writing here that is directed towards

01:00:16.869 --> 01:00:20.769
that because i love that um when they first uh

01:00:20.769 --> 01:00:24.190
escape or no when they're planning to you know

01:00:24.190 --> 01:00:29.349
get out of the the convoy or whatever Valentina's

01:00:29.349 --> 01:00:31.389
headquarters are called, whatever, in the desert.

01:00:32.070 --> 01:00:34.349
You know, Bob asks Yelena, like, oh, you know,

01:00:34.369 --> 01:00:37.170
like, how do you handle it? Like, what do you

01:00:37.170 --> 01:00:39.969
do when it comes to depression? She's like, you

01:00:39.969 --> 01:00:43.090
know what? You just kind of have to bury it deep

01:00:43.090 --> 01:00:45.349
down. That's all you can really do. You just

01:00:45.349 --> 01:00:49.510
got to stuff it down in there. You just stuff

01:00:49.510 --> 01:00:52.269
it down and do the best that you can, you know,

01:00:52.289 --> 01:00:57.110
like do what. I'm like paraphrasing here, but

01:00:57.110 --> 01:00:59.429
you know, I do what makes you happy. Like just

01:00:59.429 --> 01:01:02.949
try to get through it. But then when we come

01:01:02.949 --> 01:01:06.070
to the ending, she's in the void with Bob and

01:01:06.070 --> 01:01:09.070
she comes back to that. And she's like, you know

01:01:09.070 --> 01:01:13.789
what? I was wrong. You can't stuff it down. It

01:01:13.789 --> 01:01:17.170
will keep creeping back up and up. But what can

01:01:17.170 --> 01:01:19.489
help you is the people that are there for you.

01:01:20.809 --> 01:01:24.880
That just. Just showcasing in this movie that,

01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.960
please, it is okay to reach out for help. People

01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:31.320
love you. They're here for you. And they want

01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.159
to do whatever they can to pull you out of that

01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:38.239
darkness. It's just so beautiful that I caught

01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.159
myself tearing up a couple times in this movie.

01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:43.119
And I was not expecting to freaking tear up in

01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.940
Thunderbolts. But goddammit, did they do it.

01:01:47.449 --> 01:01:49.769
Yeah. Well, what they did so well is that they

01:01:49.769 --> 01:01:53.429
put Yelena and Bob on the same level. Like they

01:01:53.429 --> 01:01:57.150
were both dealing with shit. Yeah. And then obviously

01:01:57.150 --> 01:02:00.469
like to, I wouldn't say to a lesser extent, but

01:02:00.469 --> 01:02:02.449
everyone else was also kind of dealing with their

01:02:02.449 --> 01:02:05.789
own shit. Like John was dealing with the loss

01:02:05.789 --> 01:02:10.010
of his, like his family, like his family leaving

01:02:10.010 --> 01:02:12.809
him because of just how shitty of a person he

01:02:12.809 --> 01:02:18.050
is. Yeah. And, but yeah, but, And then I'm also

01:02:18.050 --> 01:02:21.210
thinking like the discussions, David Harbor got

01:02:21.210 --> 01:02:25.130
some of the best fricking dialogue. Oh my God.

01:02:25.150 --> 01:02:27.690
That scene when they're in New York between him

01:02:27.690 --> 01:02:30.289
and Yelena. And he's just like, I know I wasn't

01:02:30.289 --> 01:02:32.090
there. I didn't think that you'd want me to be

01:02:32.090 --> 01:02:35.329
there after everything. And Yelena is just like,

01:02:35.369 --> 01:02:38.630
I lost my sister again, but for the final time,

01:02:38.849 --> 01:02:41.889
there's, there's no coming back from that. And

01:02:41.889 --> 01:02:45.400
he's like, I'm sorry. I'm here now. no matter

01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.659
what that means to you like i i want to finally

01:02:47.659 --> 01:02:52.460
be here for you again and just that whole scene

01:02:52.460 --> 01:02:55.320
and like when she's just like i'm what she said

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:58.519
like i'm scared dad or i i but like when she

01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:02.380
calls him dad i'm like oh my god just the knife

01:03:02.380 --> 01:03:05.559
to the heart for how amazing not only that scene

01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:09.579
is but the acting from those two is just incredible

01:03:10.670 --> 01:03:14.230
I love their discussion when they were in his

01:03:14.230 --> 01:03:17.989
apartment. And she was talking like, what am

01:03:17.989 --> 01:03:20.070
I here for? What's the point? And everything.

01:03:20.210 --> 01:03:22.969
And he's just like, when were you happiest? Like,

01:03:22.969 --> 01:03:27.650
are you fulfilled? And he's just like, and he

01:03:27.650 --> 01:03:30.550
talks about what being a hero meant to him. He's

01:03:30.550 --> 01:03:33.670
just like, it wasn't just the fame and the glory.

01:03:33.969 --> 01:03:39.380
Like, it was being looked at like a god. i was

01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:42.539
i was the hero like everyone like looked at me

01:03:42.539 --> 01:03:44.960
like that and he says and there was no greater

01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:48.159
joy for me like i would like i was out there

01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:53.880
doing like serving my country and i was in the

01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:57.039
limelight as a hero says there's no like how

01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.340
he said there's no higher calling like your sister

01:03:59.340 --> 01:04:02.380
knew that and i think that's what drew her to

01:04:03.340 --> 01:04:06.619
being who she was and elena was just so like

01:04:06.619 --> 01:04:10.579
opposed to that like i'm not a hero like and

01:04:10.579 --> 01:04:12.559
i think at the end she finally like accepted

01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:18.059
that yeah which was so good like i love that

01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:20.760
and then like so you get those like deep emotional

01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.539
like that was dialogue and then you get hit with

01:04:23.539 --> 01:04:29.960
with the jokes the jokes dude top tier yeah dude

01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:34.639
straight I know it was spoiled in the trailer,

01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:38.599
but when Alexi's going off, when they're driving

01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:41.260
in his limousine, and he's talking about how

01:04:41.260 --> 01:04:44.199
this has the makings of great team that can be

01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:47.079
on the Wheaties box, and Yelena's just like,

01:04:47.179 --> 01:04:49.920
Alexi, have you slept? I'll sleep when I'm dead,

01:04:50.059 --> 01:04:52.900
John. Well, I'd like not to die today, so maybe

01:04:52.900 --> 01:04:56.000
somebody else should be driving. Yeah. Dude,

01:04:56.199 --> 01:05:01.409
John had some of the best lines. ever like i

01:05:01.409 --> 01:05:04.329
loved like when he when bucky came and was like

01:05:04.329 --> 01:05:08.130
blowing up the convoy and everything and then

01:05:08.130 --> 01:05:11.630
he's just like yo is that bucky and then he's

01:05:11.630 --> 01:05:14.309
just like cheering he's like yeah and then he

01:05:14.309 --> 01:05:17.750
like shoots the the magnet mine at the the cart

01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:21.429
and he's like oh what the boom like blows up

01:05:21.429 --> 01:05:25.090
and like i felt that oh what in my soul dude

01:05:25.090 --> 01:05:31.889
yeah dude Dude, freaking the, I love it when

01:05:31.889 --> 01:05:34.550
they're confronting Val and he's just like, we're

01:05:34.550 --> 01:05:37.630
taking you in Val. Oh yeah. Coming from the junior

01:05:37.630 --> 01:05:40.489
varsity captain America. And he pulls his gun

01:05:40.489 --> 01:05:43.630
and Bucky's just like Walker. He's like justified,

01:05:43.809 --> 01:05:47.869
completely justified. Straight up. Like the way

01:05:47.869 --> 01:05:52.400
that I would be exactly him. yeah like i was

01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.500
actually captain america you bitch seriously

01:05:55.500 --> 01:05:57.920
dude like honestly for how many people make fun

01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.219
of him like the vert like you know they call

01:06:01.219 --> 01:06:04.599
him dime store captain america new uh junior

01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.900
varsity captain america like yeah after being

01:06:06.900 --> 01:06:10.280
referred to as like not captain america when

01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:12.260
you actually were captain america yeah i freaking

01:06:12.260 --> 01:06:14.719
get under my skin after a while yeah a little

01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:17.239
bit I'm just like, you guys ruined my career

01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:20.760
making me Captain America, dude. Straight up.

01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:25.420
I freaking love that shit. And his dialogue with

01:06:25.420 --> 01:06:29.559
Bob, dude. Bob was freaking awesome. I love how

01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.440
he's laughing. He's just like, oh, so you're

01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.880
just an asshole. Yeah, he's like, wait, you're

01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:37.699
Captain America, but you're an asshole. And then

01:06:37.699 --> 01:06:40.539
after the conversation between Bob and Yelena

01:06:40.539 --> 01:06:42.619
about stuffing down your feelings, he's just

01:06:42.619 --> 01:06:46.500
like, is therapy over? We got shit to do. Oh,

01:06:46.500 --> 01:06:49.840
man. Dude, I was laughing my ass off when they

01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.659
were up the elevator. I was laughing my ass off.

01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.780
That was fantastic. Cucumber, cucumber, cucumber.

01:06:58.420 --> 01:07:03.099
Oh, my gosh. When they're traveling rooms and...

01:07:03.579 --> 01:07:05.940
they get to the room where like they're fighting

01:07:05.940 --> 01:07:08.559
him in the chicken suit and they're just like

01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.980
oh like bob what the hell and he's like i was

01:07:11.980 --> 01:07:16.340
on meth dude forget alexi bob if you hit me one

01:07:16.340 --> 01:07:21.659
more time oh man oh so freaking good dude so

01:07:21.659 --> 01:07:25.599
good freaking like after um century beats the

01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:29.079
shit out of them and they're exiting um the watchtower

01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.099
and yelena's having that talk with all of them

01:07:32.099 --> 01:07:36.960
and um and i wish they could have like when uh

01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:40.039
john's just like oh can i talk now and yelena's

01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:41.960
just like no everyone knows you're already a

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:44.280
piece of trash walker like you don't have to

01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.599
say anything i really wish that she would have

01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.300
said no walker we all know you're a piece of

01:07:49.300 --> 01:07:51.940
shit like i would have preferred if she said

01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:53.719
that and then piece of trash personally i feel

01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:57.480
that would have been more personal um but freaking

01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:01.809
when she uh calls uh I forget what she calls

01:08:01.809 --> 01:08:04.510
Ghost, and then she's just like, bitch. And she's

01:08:04.510 --> 01:08:08.909
like, my point exactly. Dude, Ghost was amazing,

01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:14.389
too. I loved her. Yeah, Ava was fantastic. Dude,

01:08:14.469 --> 01:08:17.689
you know what I'm so bummed out about? So I saw

01:08:17.689 --> 01:08:23.829
this thing about, so from the writer of this

01:08:23.829 --> 01:08:27.060
movie, or one of the writers. And what they were

01:08:27.060 --> 01:08:30.560
going to originally do with Taskmaster. I was

01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.680
so pissed. Oh, yeah. Wasn't it like she was still

01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:36.640
going to keep like trying to kill Walker, even

01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:38.979
though like they had made a truth that would

01:08:38.979 --> 01:08:41.399
have been freaking hilarious. Yeah. And then

01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:44.560
she was going to like connect with with Ghost

01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:48.359
because like they were both like put through

01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.000
like experiments as a child. So that was like

01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:55.229
what they were going to bond over. And. I'm like,

01:08:55.270 --> 01:08:59.670
yeah, put that on top of constantly attacking

01:08:59.670 --> 01:09:03.750
Walker. I would have lost my mind, dude. Yeah,

01:09:03.829 --> 01:09:06.869
that would be so fucking funny, especially like

01:09:06.869 --> 01:09:10.270
with like, like just seeing how how John was

01:09:10.270 --> 01:09:12.729
like acting. I was just like, God, like, I love

01:09:12.729 --> 01:09:14.909
this. I love everything that's happening right

01:09:14.909 --> 01:09:17.909
now. Like, I freaking loved him. Like, like,

01:09:17.909 --> 01:09:21.210
I loved his his comment when they got down to

01:09:21.210 --> 01:09:24.149
the. like the bottom floor and they're just like

01:09:24.149 --> 01:09:26.470
how do we like face off against that he turned

01:09:26.470 --> 01:09:30.909
my shield into a taco oh man yeah dude with that

01:09:30.909 --> 01:09:32.909
whole taskmaster storyline we were done dirty

01:09:32.909 --> 01:09:35.489
oh we were done so dirty dude i want to know

01:09:35.489 --> 01:09:38.550
why they cut it yeah what the hell because it

01:09:38.550 --> 01:09:42.649
doesn't it doesn't say lame yeah yeah apparently

01:09:42.649 --> 01:09:44.710
it was going to take like the entire team to

01:09:44.710 --> 01:09:49.170
pull taskmaster off of john dude god damn it

01:09:49.170 --> 01:09:52.250
what the hell marvel yeah like this is what he

01:09:52.250 --> 01:09:54.350
says he says they would they would be discussing

01:09:54.350 --> 01:09:57.289
the plan of how to get out of the vault and she

01:09:57.289 --> 01:09:59.729
just go after him again and they'd all have to

01:09:59.729 --> 01:10:02.050
like pig pile on each other and pull her off

01:10:02.050 --> 01:10:04.649
and be like no we know each other we had this

01:10:04.649 --> 01:10:08.729
conversation before oh man great so good missed

01:10:08.729 --> 01:10:11.869
opportunity but even that like even with that

01:10:11.869 --> 01:10:13.869
like no one we could have gotten that like i

01:10:13.869 --> 01:10:17.170
can't complain about what we did oh yeah i can't

01:10:17.170 --> 01:10:22.500
either yeah like it sucks that Taskmaster was

01:10:22.500 --> 01:10:27.060
the one to go. But the rest of the movie that

01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:31.560
we got, fantastic. Yeah. Dude, and Yelena's a

01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:37.119
freaking treat. Oh, she is. I love her. Yeah,

01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:39.600
dude. Florence Pugh was one of the best things

01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.880
to ever happen to the MCU. Easily, yeah. And

01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.479
Scarlett Johansson is a big reason for that.

01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:48.399
Yeah, I love how she was talking to the tied

01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:51.880
-up guard. And she's just like, you're not even

01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.180
listening. It's like you're focused on something

01:10:54.180 --> 01:10:57.579
else. And he's like, yeah. Yeah. And then when

01:10:57.579 --> 01:11:00.279
the scientist comes in and she does like this,

01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:03.060
like what she did, like the whole high like thing,

01:11:03.100 --> 01:11:06.720
I was like, ah, like that was fantastic. Yeah.

01:11:06.819 --> 01:11:08.979
And then she's like, you look like someone that

01:11:08.979 --> 01:11:14.539
can open that sensor. God, she's so scary. Oh,

01:11:14.699 --> 01:11:21.000
bad. I love. her and then like i said love bob

01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:25.340
too like he was so good like i like that he kind

01:11:25.340 --> 01:11:27.680
of forgot everything that they had went through

01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.659
and so when they got pulled into like basically

01:11:31.659 --> 01:11:35.800
fell into uh valentina's trap of being announced

01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:39.079
as the the new avengers and everything and he's

01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.699
just sitting there like clapping for dude i love

01:11:42.699 --> 01:11:45.399
the freaking when walker is just like good good

01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:47.819
job in there bob he's just like or yeah he's

01:11:47.819 --> 01:11:50.760
like um good job in there bob he's like thanks

01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:56.060
walker what did i do what happened dude i i love

01:11:56.060 --> 01:12:00.260
century So much. Yeah, dude. Like, especially

01:12:00.260 --> 01:12:02.939
just watching him turn against foul. Like that

01:12:02.939 --> 01:12:09.460
was really good, dude. Talk. This is like, like,

01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:15.560
okay. Pausing. I'm given writing like a 90. I'm

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.300
given the 97. I was at 96. I talked, I talked

01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:22.060
myself up. I'm so high with that. I'm at 96,

01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:24.600
but fair. I can understand why you're at 97.

01:12:24.939 --> 01:12:28.260
Yeah. getting into acting and just talking about

01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:32.819
Lewis Pullman for a second, the way that he was

01:12:32.819 --> 01:12:38.300
able to go back and forth between Bob and then

01:12:38.300 --> 01:12:44.779
the century and then the void masterclass. Yeah.

01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.220
Like when he, like what you just said, when he

01:12:47.220 --> 01:12:51.199
turned on Val and he's just like, when she's

01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:53.600
just like, no, you listen to me. And he's like,

01:12:54.349 --> 01:12:59.010
why i'm like yeah like yeah i'm like val you

01:12:59.010 --> 01:13:04.050
fuck up yeah like seriously like especially when

01:13:04.050 --> 01:13:06.409
she tells him to go after them he's just like

01:13:06.409 --> 01:13:09.670
why they're not a threat to me anymore you're

01:13:09.670 --> 01:13:12.109
just like not wrong right yeah they weren't a

01:13:12.109 --> 01:13:14.029
threat to you in the first place but you freaking

01:13:14.029 --> 01:13:19.189
mopped the floor with them yeah like damn but

01:13:19.189 --> 01:13:22.210
yeah oh my gosh dude like i hope this freaking

01:13:22.210 --> 01:13:26.279
throws lewis pullman into like the stratosphere

01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:30.460
for yeah he is so good such a phenomenal actor

01:13:30.460 --> 01:13:33.920
like he like it's crazy like he plays that super

01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:37.840
awkward goofy character so well and then he can

01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:42.380
switch into like intimidating like so good yeah

01:13:42.380 --> 01:13:44.340
like maybe that has something to do with like

01:13:44.340 --> 01:13:46.699
how they designed the void and it was just like

01:13:46.699 --> 01:13:51.359
blackness with eyes like but oh crazy anyway

01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:57.670
getting into acting First up, we got Florence

01:13:57.670 --> 01:14:01.850
Pugh, who played Yelena Belova. We have Sebastian

01:14:01.850 --> 01:14:05.350
Stan, that played Bucky Barnes. We got Wyatt

01:14:05.350 --> 01:14:08.909
Russell, who plays John Walker. We have Hannah

01:14:08.909 --> 01:14:15.810
John Common, who plays Ava Starr, a .k .a. Ghost.

01:14:16.210 --> 01:14:19.470
We got David Harbour, who plays Alexei Shostakov,

01:14:19.829 --> 01:14:24.579
a .k .a. The Red Guardian. We got... Did I forget

01:14:24.579 --> 01:14:28.020
to change the name? God damn it. You put Lenny

01:14:28.020 --> 01:14:31.520
James playing Lewis Pullman. It's Lewis Pullman

01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:36.600
playing Bob, a .k .a. the Century, a .k .a. the

01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:43.439
Void. I'm fired for doing casting anymore. We

01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:48.600
got Julia Louise Dreyfuss. Dude, you're so fired.

01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:54.789
Why? It's Julia Louise Dreyfuss, not Julia Lou

01:14:54.789 --> 01:14:59.329
Dreyfuss. Well, Google lied to me. Blame Google.

01:14:59.710 --> 01:15:04.750
Google? Yeah, when I pull up the Thunderbolt...

01:15:04.750 --> 01:15:07.590
Maybe I read it wrong. Man, dude, I freaking

01:15:07.590 --> 01:15:11.010
destroyed this. Yeah, when I pull up the Thunderbolt's

01:15:11.010 --> 01:15:14.989
cast, just Google. It's just Julia Lou Dreyfuss.

01:15:16.010 --> 01:15:20.399
You sure about that? Well, now I'm not. Cause

01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.319
mine says Julia Louise Dreyfus. Did you have

01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:25.899
it small or something? Like I bring up Thunderbolts

01:15:25.899 --> 01:15:29.000
cast and like the immediately, this is what pops

01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.520
up on the top of the screen. It goes Florence

01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:35.819
Pugh, Sebastian Stan, Julia Lou Dreyfus. And

01:15:35.819 --> 01:15:38.500
then, okay. I'm not, okay. I'm not trusting Google

01:15:38.500 --> 01:15:43.020
anymore. I'm just going to IMDB. Yeah. Yeah.

01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:47.140
Okay. Yep. IMDB from now on. Anyway, anyway,

01:15:47.180 --> 01:15:51.859
Julia Louise Dreyfus plays. Yeah. She plays Valentina

01:15:51.859 --> 01:15:57.760
Allegra de Fontaine. We got Geraldine Viswanathan.

01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:03.859
I thought I changed it last minute. Yeah, I changed

01:16:03.859 --> 01:16:07.319
it last minute, and you'd already ported it over.

01:16:07.420 --> 01:16:10.939
My bad. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, she plays Mel.

01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:17.510
Then we got Olga Kirilenko. who plays Antonia

01:16:17.510 --> 01:16:21.090
Dreykov, who was Taskmaster. We got Wendell Pierce,

01:16:21.210 --> 01:16:25.029
who plays Congressman Gary. And that's it. So

01:16:25.029 --> 01:16:27.789
I don't think it's any secret who our number

01:16:27.789 --> 01:16:31.289
one is. Oh, yeah. No, it's absolutely Florence

01:16:31.289 --> 01:16:37.510
Pugh. Like 100%, right? Oh, yeah. 100%. Absolutely.

01:16:37.989 --> 01:16:40.510
Number two. Damn, because all of them are so

01:16:40.510 --> 01:16:43.489
good. That's what sucks. They are. It's very

01:16:43.489 --> 01:16:46.770
hard to do this ranking. um just because like

01:16:46.770 --> 01:16:49.850
i i loved him in falcon and the winter soldier

01:16:49.850 --> 01:16:51.689
and i loved him even more here i probably give

01:16:51.689 --> 01:16:56.229
two to wyatt russell john walker loved him he

01:16:56.229 --> 01:16:59.170
is fantastic he's my number three all right fair

01:16:59.170 --> 01:17:04.449
uh number three i would probably give to i butchered

01:17:04.449 --> 01:17:09.489
the name i know um but uh good old bob i would

01:17:09.489 --> 01:17:13.520
give uh to uh what's his name and lewis pullman

01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:16.500
lewis pullman uh i would give number three to

01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:21.220
him because like caleb said just seeing him go

01:17:21.220 --> 01:17:26.100
from bob to century to void just incredible like

01:17:26.100 --> 01:17:29.680
his acting was fantastic in this movie and i

01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.500
loved his character it was fantastic yeah but

01:17:33.500 --> 01:17:37.399
like it's like but like all the other thunderbolts

01:17:37.399 --> 01:17:39.960
like they're so freaking close with all these

01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:43.439
numbers because all of these actors were phenomenal

01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.960
in their roles and i'm gonna be honest like when

01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:49.260
it comes to like picking your favorites in casting

01:17:49.260 --> 01:17:52.739
this is one of the hardest because all of everybody's

01:17:52.739 --> 01:17:57.119
so damn good dude straight up like florence p

01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:01.279
for me because uh lewis pullman's my number two

01:18:01.279 --> 01:18:04.930
okay so like we had like Almost the same list.

01:18:05.029 --> 01:18:07.829
Yeah, almost the same list. Nice. Yeah, like,

01:18:08.050 --> 01:18:12.649
it's just, yeah, Florence Pugh was an obvious

01:18:12.649 --> 01:18:16.409
number one. But, yeah, Lewis Pullman and Wyatt

01:18:16.409 --> 01:18:19.750
Russell could easily be flip -flopped any day

01:18:19.750 --> 01:18:23.710
of the week. Like, I completely understand your

01:18:23.710 --> 01:18:29.310
ranking. And then after this, it is honestly

01:18:29.310 --> 01:18:32.069
so hard. Like, it would be really freaking difficult

01:18:32.069 --> 01:18:36.439
to. to rank these because like sebastian stan

01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:41.060
freaking killed it um uh what's her face you

01:18:41.060 --> 01:18:46.819
know you oh yeah um yeah hannah john common or

01:18:46.819 --> 01:18:49.600
however you want to say her name like she freaking

01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.140
killed it like everybody freaking destroyed their

01:18:53.140 --> 01:18:58.859
roles yeah it was amazing like how well they

01:18:58.859 --> 01:19:03.659
all play their characters Like, and, dude, and

01:19:03.659 --> 01:19:09.100
Ghost? Oh, never mind. That's in costumes. Calm

01:19:09.100 --> 01:19:12.039
down. Yeah, but, dude, I'm, like, thinking to,

01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:15.020
like, how funny it was that everyone kind of

01:19:15.020 --> 01:19:21.300
played off of Florence so well. Like, I'm thinking,

01:19:21.380 --> 01:19:23.359
like, when they were in the back of the box truck

01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:27.840
and they were basically giving John, like, basically

01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:31.020
teasing John about his helmet. and being like

01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:34.560
like oh yeah like what about your uh your your

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:37.460
mask or your your cover or whatever he's like

01:19:37.460 --> 01:19:40.659
oh my helmet like yeah it's pretty it's pretty

01:19:40.659 --> 01:19:43.319
sweet like you guys think it's cool and they're

01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.260
like oh yeah we totally think it's cool like

01:19:45.260 --> 01:19:47.920
you can tell that they're both like giving him

01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:52.779
yeah don't say it's a hat yeah they say it's

01:19:52.779 --> 01:19:55.220
a hat okay yeah and then freaking they say that

01:19:55.220 --> 01:19:58.670
his gun's too long yeah no well no they don't

01:19:58.670 --> 01:20:00.409
say it's too long they're just because he says

01:20:00.409 --> 01:20:02.949
it like yeah i got this with uh with a long barrel

01:20:02.949 --> 01:20:05.569
and he's like oh yeah it's very long oh yeah

01:20:05.569 --> 01:20:09.329
that's what it is he's just like like the way

01:20:09.329 --> 01:20:13.449
like i dude if there's anyone that i related

01:20:13.449 --> 01:20:17.090
to most it was freaking john walker because the

01:20:17.090 --> 01:20:20.170
like way he's like yeah when they called it a

01:20:20.170 --> 01:20:22.050
hat and he's like it's uh it's actually a helmet

01:20:22.050 --> 01:20:25.770
but yeah like it's it's pretty cool like trying

01:20:25.770 --> 01:20:28.569
to underplay it but he's like so proud of his

01:20:28.569 --> 01:20:34.189
suit oh man so good so good freaking love that

01:20:34.189 --> 01:20:41.390
shit man it's so fantastic yeah but anyway where

01:20:41.390 --> 01:20:43.449
are you sitting with uh with your acting grade

01:20:43.449 --> 01:20:49.050
i think just everyone is like so so good um i

01:20:49.050 --> 01:20:53.630
think i am gonna be one notch lower uh on my

01:20:53.630 --> 01:20:55.750
than my writing so i think acting i'm gonna be

01:20:55.750 --> 01:20:59.109
a 95. yeah i'm i'm still in the 90s i'm just

01:20:59.109 --> 01:21:03.149
a touch lower uh than my story so i'm at 91.

01:21:03.909 --> 01:21:07.289
like i didn't really have too many issues like

01:21:07.289 --> 01:21:10.109
anything like it's it's i'm being real nitpicky

01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:13.460
about any problems that i had because i enjoyed

01:21:13.460 --> 01:21:18.180
the performances so much but yeah i don't know

01:21:18.180 --> 01:21:19.859
there's just like little things it might have

01:21:19.859 --> 01:21:23.460
been more extras than than anything okay that's

01:21:23.460 --> 01:21:25.699
fair but i thought everyone pulled off their

01:21:25.699 --> 01:21:30.720
roles amazing like i loved the like sebastian's

01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:32.880
stand when he's reading through the the packet

01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:36.159
and he's like sitting there like washing his

01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:38.779
his arm and he's flipping through and he's just

01:21:38.779 --> 01:21:42.779
like man this is This is such a long fricking

01:21:42.779 --> 01:21:46.180
packet and just roasting it. And then he spills

01:21:46.180 --> 01:21:50.199
a dip on it or whatever the hell he was eating.

01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:52.979
You know what? I'm going to actually knock it

01:21:52.979 --> 01:21:58.579
down one. Sorry. 94. Yeah. All right. Next up,

01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:03.739
we got character development, which was on point.

01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:09.699
Oh God. Yelena's care. Oh my God. Yeah, this

01:22:09.699 --> 01:22:11.840
is how you do character development in a superhero

01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:17.460
movie. Hell, just any movie. Straight up. They

01:22:17.460 --> 01:22:23.899
did her so perfect, dude. It's just the way that

01:22:23.899 --> 01:22:27.380
she starts off, very obviously in a depression

01:22:27.380 --> 01:22:31.279
where her job just doesn't excite her anymore.

01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.960
It's just very mundane, even though it's super

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:39.880
high action and everything. She views it as the

01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.579
most mundane shit. Even the way that she goes

01:22:43.579 --> 01:22:47.800
about just everything. The way that she stood

01:22:47.800 --> 01:22:49.859
up on that roof and then just kind of dropped

01:22:49.859 --> 01:22:55.119
forward instead of leaping. And then she drops

01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:59.380
her parachute and just kind of circles around.

01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:05.640
It was so been there, done that attitude. I still

01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:08.039
can't believe... I don't know if you've seen

01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:11.260
the behind the scenes, but Florence Pugh actually

01:23:11.260 --> 01:23:13.520
did jump off the second highest building. Like

01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:18.979
that was her. Yeah. That crazy. That is insane.

01:23:19.460 --> 01:23:23.720
Like, okay. Was it the, the fricking long shot?

01:23:24.079 --> 01:23:27.600
Like the, the, the, the shot where it was like,

01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:29.939
she was like super far away or where it was far

01:23:29.939 --> 01:23:31.699
away, like at the building. And then you just

01:23:31.699 --> 01:23:35.699
see her, like her body like fallen. Like, was

01:23:35.699 --> 01:23:39.310
that her? as far as i know everything was her

01:23:39.310 --> 01:23:43.149
it wasn't her stunt double at all good lord dude

01:23:43.149 --> 01:23:46.289
right i i heard her talking about that i didn't

01:23:46.289 --> 01:23:49.250
realize that that like i thought it was just

01:23:49.250 --> 01:23:53.250
the scene where she like falls forward like i

01:23:53.250 --> 01:23:56.010
didn't realize it was like all of it i'm pretty

01:23:56.010 --> 01:23:59.510
sure it was all of it yeah i loved like how she

01:23:59.510 --> 01:24:01.390
talked about that she's just like yeah i didn't

01:24:01.390 --> 01:24:04.869
really like tell anyone about it until like it

01:24:04.869 --> 01:24:08.029
was the day of Because I didn't want anyone to

01:24:08.029 --> 01:24:12.989
worry. I'm like, what? Like, you just expect

01:24:12.989 --> 01:24:15.449
your family to go there and just, like, accept

01:24:15.449 --> 01:24:18.050
that you're jumping off of the second tallest

01:24:18.050 --> 01:24:23.369
building in the world? Yeah, I think it's in

01:24:23.369 --> 01:24:29.810
the world. Yeah. Crazy. 100%. Ooh, man. Yeah.

01:24:30.270 --> 01:24:34.449
Crazy. We were, like, one wire away from not.

01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:39.859
having a florence pew anymore i think thank god

01:24:39.859 --> 01:24:43.079
that didn't happen yeah but yeah like just seeing

01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:46.140
her kind of struggling with her with her place

01:24:46.140 --> 01:24:48.880
in the world just because you could tell she's

01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:52.000
still like dealing with the the loss of her sister

01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:55.279
she was dealing with not having any communication

01:24:55.279 --> 01:24:59.560
with uh with alexi and then just trying to figure

01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:03.850
out like her role in in the world and just like

01:25:03.850 --> 01:25:06.470
how she was seeking out something that was a

01:25:06.470 --> 01:25:10.670
bit more public. Like, I thought that was like,

01:25:10.670 --> 01:25:13.710
like really interesting for her character too.

01:25:14.750 --> 01:25:17.430
Like they, they took a lot of interesting directions

01:25:17.430 --> 01:25:21.130
with, with her. They did. And then the way that

01:25:21.130 --> 01:25:26.850
ties into Bob's story too, like, like so good.

01:25:26.890 --> 01:25:32.010
Like the way that they, they built Bob up. Where

01:25:32.010 --> 01:25:36.130
he was just someone that just happened to, like,

01:25:36.229 --> 01:25:39.449
their experiments just happened to work on. But

01:25:39.449 --> 01:25:41.909
they were picking people, like, at their lowest

01:25:41.909 --> 01:25:45.989
lows. Like, he even said, he's just like, I thought,

01:25:46.029 --> 01:25:49.189
bare minimum, like, I'd just get some good drugs.

01:25:49.550 --> 01:25:51.689
Like, that's what I was going there for. And

01:25:51.689 --> 01:25:54.090
it's just, like, Mel points it out. She's just

01:25:54.090 --> 01:25:58.770
like, yeah, you give, like, you give Steve Rogers,

01:25:59.029 --> 01:26:02.659
like. like you experiment on steve rogers he

01:26:02.659 --> 01:26:05.600
becomes captain america like he was a good person

01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:07.979
just became better like you give someone like

01:26:07.979 --> 01:26:12.079
bob superpowers like the powers of a god like

01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.020
what what does he do with those yeah like someone

01:26:15.020 --> 01:26:17.859
that has struggled with like depression mental

01:26:17.859 --> 01:26:21.560
health problems uh like all all that stuff like

01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.239
what does that look like and it just it took

01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.479
like a a super like obvious form like all like

01:26:29.410 --> 01:26:33.289
The metaphorical like this situation is very

01:26:33.289 --> 01:26:36.550
distinct, but it's just the way that they dealt

01:26:36.550 --> 01:26:40.789
with it was so good. Yeah, like where he's. Yeah,

01:26:40.890 --> 01:26:43.029
because like they were pushing him to like fight

01:26:43.029 --> 01:26:45.270
it. And it's just like you're beating it like

01:26:45.270 --> 01:26:47.890
you're taking that sadness and just beating it

01:26:47.890 --> 01:26:50.069
down. He's like, that's not like and then she

01:26:50.069 --> 01:26:51.869
realizes that's not what you have to do with

01:26:51.869 --> 01:26:55.409
it. No, like you just accept that it's there

01:26:55.409 --> 01:26:58.869
and basically like go on with your life. you

01:26:58.869 --> 01:27:01.430
just got to do the best that you can yeah which

01:27:01.430 --> 01:27:04.989
was so good yeah and i love that amazing yeah

01:27:04.989 --> 01:27:07.170
and i love that moment where she just kind of

01:27:07.170 --> 01:27:10.829
like especially after after that talk with alexi

01:27:10.829 --> 01:27:15.189
in the street and she's just like like they look

01:27:15.189 --> 01:27:16.890
at each other and then they just kind of have

01:27:16.890 --> 01:27:19.550
that knowing glance and then like alexi like

01:27:19.550 --> 01:27:24.430
pushes and gets her to like escape and then she

01:27:24.430 --> 01:27:27.229
goes and like faces off like it was so good it

01:27:27.229 --> 01:27:29.750
was so well done the way that they they pulled

01:27:29.750 --> 01:27:34.010
all that off yep i'm i'm personally at the same

01:27:34.010 --> 01:27:37.310
level as like my story i'm sitting at 92 with

01:27:37.310 --> 01:27:39.329
character development i thought they did this

01:27:39.329 --> 01:27:42.149
super well i think i'm just going to be a touch

01:27:42.149 --> 01:27:45.630
higher than you at 93 fair enough i'm moving

01:27:45.630 --> 01:27:50.210
on over to effects no real complaints i only

01:27:50.210 --> 01:27:55.930
had one complaint um And it was mostly just CGI.

01:27:57.890 --> 01:28:00.710
Maybe it might have been just me. But when they're

01:28:00.710 --> 01:28:05.369
fighting Sentry in the Watchtower, when he's

01:28:05.369 --> 01:28:08.529
throwing them all over the place and he picks

01:28:08.529 --> 01:28:13.710
up Yelena, I don't know why, but her body looked

01:28:13.710 --> 01:28:17.149
a little rubbery to me. That whole scene felt

01:28:17.149 --> 01:28:21.069
a little rubbery. Yeah, okay. Just want to make

01:28:21.069 --> 01:28:24.840
sure I'm not the only one. No, it's typical Marvel

01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:29.180
stuff. You could tell that I felt like they were

01:28:29.180 --> 01:28:31.500
rushing it a little bit. None of the effects

01:28:31.500 --> 01:28:35.680
looked horrible. No. It fit the tone, and I like

01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:37.979
that they didn't rely too heavily on any crazy

01:28:37.979 --> 01:28:41.760
special effects. Yes, definitely. I mean, the

01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:47.180
void stuff was pretty easy to do. Yeah. I feel

01:28:47.180 --> 01:28:50.739
like just kind of blacking him out. um the effect

01:28:50.739 --> 01:28:53.180
though when a person would disappear like the

01:28:53.180 --> 01:28:55.779
black mark that would leave that nightmare fantastic

01:28:55.779 --> 01:28:59.739
yeah that looked great yeah that looked amazing

01:28:59.739 --> 01:29:03.560
um i'm trying to think of it oh ghost she had

01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:09.560
her um her effect which was looked good yeah

01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:13.739
yeah like i loved how subtle it was too it was

01:29:13.739 --> 01:29:16.840
just kind of like a slight like fading out yeah

01:29:17.739 --> 01:29:23.699
like i like that a lot um but yeah like my only

01:29:23.699 --> 01:29:26.680
issue is just a lot of the uh gosh it wasn't

01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.359
even that much not like we're really talking

01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.159
about it's just that one scene yeah i might be

01:29:32.159 --> 01:29:35.760
on the higher end with that yeah like yeah still

01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:37.880
like it was still rubbery but i'm gonna dock

01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.939
a little bit like i'm sitting at like an 88 like

01:29:40.939 --> 01:29:43.039
i was thinking about going lower but with how

01:29:43.039 --> 01:29:46.989
minimal like those special effects were yeah

01:29:46.989 --> 01:29:50.210
it felt like they they tried to do very heavily

01:29:50.210 --> 01:29:54.310
on like practical stuff definitely like there

01:29:54.310 --> 01:29:57.090
wasn't anything like too crazy like in terms

01:29:57.090 --> 01:29:59.949
of special effects like the only big thing was

01:29:59.949 --> 01:30:03.770
century and void yeah that's true yeah you know

01:30:03.770 --> 01:30:05.510
what i'm gonna match it there all right moving

01:30:05.510 --> 01:30:11.420
out over to music what um What sucks about the

01:30:11.420 --> 01:30:13.380
music. I mean, the music's good. Like it's fine.

01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:15.380
You know, like it's a classic Marvel soundtrack.

01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:19.800
But what sucks about the music at the end, at

01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.479
the end credits, before the end credit scene

01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:25.800
ever happens, it's already spoiled for you of

01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:28.100
who's going to be in it. Because the last track

01:30:28.100 --> 01:30:31.699
that they, they announced is, Oh, the fantastic

01:30:31.699 --> 01:30:36.079
four main theme written by Michael G. I think

01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:39.689
that's his name, but you're just like, i remember

01:30:39.689 --> 01:30:42.770
looking at i'm like wait what what the hell what

01:30:42.770 --> 01:30:46.630
and then that hasn't played yet yeah you're just

01:30:46.630 --> 01:30:49.130
and then that plays you're just like like are

01:30:49.130 --> 01:30:51.729
you freaking serious man come on you couldn't

01:30:51.729 --> 01:30:55.409
throw that after yeah like did you really need

01:30:55.409 --> 01:30:58.550
to include that like okay i guess you needed

01:30:58.550 --> 01:31:01.449
to that that was the final song to play during

01:31:01.449 --> 01:31:06.100
the credits but like There had to have been some

01:31:06.100 --> 01:31:08.460
way around it to where you didn't have to straight

01:31:08.460 --> 01:31:10.579
up say, oh, hey, here's the Fantastic Four's

01:31:10.579 --> 01:31:13.500
main theme. Sorry to spoil the end credit scene

01:31:13.500 --> 01:31:17.819
for you. Yeah, it definitely felt like, yeah,

01:31:17.939 --> 01:31:20.020
like the second that showed, I was just like,

01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:23.920
oh, OK, so I know exactly what this is going

01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.300
to look like now. Yeah. And props to them for

01:31:27.300 --> 01:31:30.079
not making it like a couple seconds. Like, I'm

01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.619
glad that they kind of gave us an in -depth.

01:31:35.939 --> 01:31:39.319
Yeah. Apparently it's one of it. I think actually

01:31:39.319 --> 01:31:42.880
I heard it's the longest end credit scene for

01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:46.180
the MCU. It deserved to be. And credit scenes

01:31:46.180 --> 01:31:50.399
like this is how like this was perfect, dude.

01:31:50.500 --> 01:31:52.420
Like this was perfect in terms of end credit

01:31:52.420 --> 01:31:57.439
scenes. It was movie like the fancy credits,

01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:04.029
goofy, like the goofball like credit scene. The

01:32:04.029 --> 01:32:07.729
credits. Yeah, the credits. And then a serious

01:32:07.729 --> 01:32:11.489
end credit scene. Don't freaking do us dirty

01:32:11.489 --> 01:32:14.689
like you've done with a bunch of other movies.

01:32:15.149 --> 01:32:18.470
Like freaking Captain Marvel. I got to think

01:32:18.470 --> 01:32:21.590
of that one. Oh, yeah. Freaking Spider -Man.

01:32:22.550 --> 01:32:28.890
Homecoming. Pull that shit. Don't make fun of

01:32:28.890 --> 01:32:32.670
us for staying after the credits. Yeah, exactly.

01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:35.140
Like, don't give us something stupid. Give us

01:32:35.140 --> 01:32:37.460
something to look forward to for, like, the next

01:32:37.460 --> 01:32:41.979
project. Like, that was perfect. Yep. But, yeah.

01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:45.779
Like, also, don't spoil the goddamn end credit

01:32:45.779 --> 01:32:50.060
scene with the titles or with the credits. Like,

01:32:50.060 --> 01:32:52.579
you can freaking throw that shit after the fact,

01:32:52.699 --> 01:32:57.640
but, I mean, come on. But, yeah. Soundtrack -wise,

01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:01.739
it wasn't anything too special. It wasn't. I

01:33:01.739 --> 01:33:04.239
mean. I was kind of shocked that the trailer

01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:06.619
song that they used for a lot of the promotion

01:33:06.619 --> 01:33:09.060
was, I mean, it was in the credits. It wasn't

01:33:09.060 --> 01:33:11.500
in the actual movie, but I was shocked that they

01:33:11.500 --> 01:33:13.979
actually used it. The nothing's going to stop

01:33:13.979 --> 01:33:15.800
us now. I don't think that's the actual title

01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:21.180
of the song, but yeah, this one's like, I mean,

01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:24.079
even them throwing in the Avengers theme, I'm

01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.819
sitting at like a six. Like it was, it was all

01:33:26.819 --> 01:33:30.369
right. Yeah. I think I'm going to agree there.

01:33:30.989 --> 01:33:34.470
I will say though, that once they're revealed

01:33:34.470 --> 01:33:37.510
that they're the new Avengers, that whole, I,

01:33:37.630 --> 01:33:40.090
that whole montage of like people being like,

01:33:40.130 --> 01:33:43.409
like, Oh, are they the great saviors? Like, can

01:33:43.409 --> 01:33:48.010
they really help us and fricking, you know, we

01:33:48.010 --> 01:33:51.069
don't get political here, but the fact that they

01:33:51.069 --> 01:33:54.590
threw in the, not my Avengers, I'm like, I know

01:33:54.590 --> 01:33:57.489
what that's referring to. It's like you knew

01:33:57.489 --> 01:34:01.149
what you were doing. Yeah. But that whole that

01:34:01.149 --> 01:34:03.449
whole end credit scene, like with all those like

01:34:03.449 --> 01:34:06.289
newspapers, headlines, I really loved that. That

01:34:06.289 --> 01:34:10.510
was cool. That was a great like end credit. Like,

01:34:10.529 --> 01:34:14.149
I love those. I love that. Like the remakes of

01:34:14.149 --> 01:34:18.289
like great historical moments. Yeah. African.

01:34:18.329 --> 01:34:21.409
Yeah. Them crossing like Washington crossing

01:34:21.409 --> 01:34:24.350
the Delaware. But it was them. Yeah, that that

01:34:24.350 --> 01:34:27.470
was great. yeah freaking love that shit dude

01:34:27.470 --> 01:34:31.170
a lot of people uh or maybe not a lot of people

01:34:31.170 --> 01:34:32.869
i saw but i saw someone post like it would have

01:34:32.869 --> 01:34:35.489
been funny if uh for one of the magazines they

01:34:35.489 --> 01:34:39.710
had uh them recreate that like um classic uh

01:34:39.710 --> 01:34:43.869
shot of the original six in new york city when

01:34:43.869 --> 01:34:48.890
they're assembled yeah that would be so cool

01:34:48.890 --> 01:34:53.029
yeah that would be great oh yeah all right moving

01:34:53.029 --> 01:34:55.619
on over to costumes These were pretty great.

01:34:55.779 --> 01:34:59.159
They were so good. Yeah. Like, I'm trying to

01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:03.020
think of any I had. Like, Yelena's was fine.

01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:07.720
Like, it was tactical. The upgraded Ghost. Oh,

01:35:07.720 --> 01:35:14.220
she looked awesome. So good. Yeah. John Walker's

01:35:14.220 --> 01:35:16.539
looked good. Like, his looked like he had been

01:35:16.539 --> 01:35:19.359
in, like, done multiple missions and, like, in

01:35:19.359 --> 01:35:25.420
combat. Yep. Red Guardians 2 looked great. fantastic

01:35:25.420 --> 01:35:32.960
oh so good oh century yeah oh my god dude freaking

01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:37.399
i love how he's in um ava's just like something's

01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.899
different about you you're blonde now he's like

01:35:39.899 --> 01:35:43.359
yeah it wasn't my decision i i freaking love

01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:46.800
that like valentina while they were talking about

01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.199
that and he's She's just like, okay, I mean,

01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:50.779
we could change the hair. And he's like, it's

01:35:50.779 --> 01:35:52.600
not about the hair. And she's like, well, you

01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:55.739
keep bringing up the hair. Like, I freaking love

01:35:55.739 --> 01:36:00.460
that shit, dude. That was fantastic. Oh, man.

01:36:01.380 --> 01:36:05.800
Yeah. Century's outfit, though, from, like, they,

01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:10.319
like, such a huge, like, the way that they adapted

01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:13.539
that from, like, what he, like, normally looks

01:36:13.539 --> 01:36:17.489
like is damn near perfect. like he's got the

01:36:17.489 --> 01:36:22.949
that that superhero -esque look like he was like

01:36:22.949 --> 01:36:25.930
it's perfect like i can't like i have zero complaints

01:36:25.930 --> 01:36:29.430
with how he looked same here like i even love

01:36:29.430 --> 01:36:33.250
like the how they change the logo on him like

01:36:33.250 --> 01:36:37.210
it's like normally like so the belt on him in

01:36:37.210 --> 01:36:41.770
the comics is like humongous and then the s freaking

01:36:41.770 --> 01:36:45.819
glows and everything but i like this feels I

01:36:45.819 --> 01:36:49.199
mean, outside of the belt, I will say this. It

01:36:49.199 --> 01:36:51.880
does look like they kind of recycled Vision's

01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:54.939
suit a bit. That's fair. Yeah, but I mean, he

01:36:54.939 --> 01:36:58.539
still looks freaking incredible. Yeah, he does.

01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:02.079
I love when he came down and like was standing

01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:03.960
and everything. John was like trying to like.

01:37:04.569 --> 01:37:08.510
straighten his posture a bit oh dude freaking

01:37:08.510 --> 01:37:10.649
i can't imagine the flashbacks that bucky got

01:37:10.649 --> 01:37:14.189
when he caught his uh metal hand metal arm just

01:37:14.189 --> 01:37:18.250
started squeezing it yeah oh goodness yeah and

01:37:18.250 --> 01:37:21.090
then yeah but century looked awesome and then

01:37:21.090 --> 01:37:26.869
the void dude oh holy balls so much with so little

01:37:26.869 --> 01:37:30.930
that's how i would describe it i'm almost i'm

01:37:30.930 --> 01:37:34.779
hesitant to give this a 10 I'm personally at

01:37:34.779 --> 01:37:39.220
a 9. Yeah. That makes me feel better about giving

01:37:39.220 --> 01:37:41.180
it a 10 because I know it is going to round down.

01:37:41.500 --> 01:37:45.619
Fair enough. I can personally give it a 10. Honestly,

01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:50.779
I'd be more at a 9 .5. Okay, that's fair. Yeah,

01:37:50.779 --> 01:37:54.640
but after everyone else's outfit looked freaking

01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:58.340
awesome. I even like Taskmaster's. I wish we

01:37:58.340 --> 01:38:02.159
would have gotten more of her. Yeah, but she

01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:06.970
looked great. yeah also like totally like i'm

01:38:06.970 --> 01:38:11.029
not gonna like dock or anything uh it kind of

01:38:11.029 --> 01:38:13.270
bullshit that you don't have a bulletproof mask

01:38:13.270 --> 01:38:20.109
yeah i yeah i agree like for how tactical taskmaster

01:38:20.109 --> 01:38:23.029
is or how they've set her up to be for all the

01:38:23.029 --> 01:38:26.329
money that drakoff put into making sure her costume

01:38:26.329 --> 01:38:30.399
or her outfit whatever um would be up to any

01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:32.699
challenge yeah the fact that freaking her mask

01:38:32.699 --> 01:38:36.279
is not bulletproof like i would have sworn up

01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:39.680
and down that she took bullets in black widow

01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:41.680
like i don't know if she took one of the face

01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:43.739
but i'm pretty sure she took i don't think she

01:38:43.739 --> 01:38:47.619
did no no this is gonna be my excuse to watch

01:38:47.619 --> 01:38:51.720
black widow again there you go yeah But yeah,

01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:55.399
I can give it a 10, knowing that yours is going

01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:57.460
to pull it down a bit. All right, last up, we

01:38:57.460 --> 01:39:00.619
got personal score. Let's hear yours first. Okay.

01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:06.220
Yeah, this is not only one of the best Marvel

01:39:06.220 --> 01:39:09.319
movies in recent years, one of the best Marvel

01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:12.899
movies, period. I told Caleb after I got out

01:39:12.899 --> 01:39:16.300
of this movie that this absolutely made my top

01:39:16.300 --> 01:39:19.560
five. Talking it through, I think it's in my

01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:24.350
top three. Best MCU movies. This was just fantastic

01:39:24.350 --> 01:39:28.029
from start to finish. These characters were incredible.

01:39:29.029 --> 01:39:33.409
The way that this story showcased mental health

01:39:33.409 --> 01:39:38.810
was just perfection. I hardly had any problems

01:39:38.810 --> 01:39:41.810
with this story. Marvel knocked it out of the

01:39:41.810 --> 01:39:46.289
park. This is just a great superhero movie. Not

01:39:46.289 --> 01:39:47.850
just a great superhero movie. This is just a

01:39:47.850 --> 01:39:52.479
great movie. yeah i i can't wait to to watch

01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:55.319
this movie again and again because it definitely

01:39:55.319 --> 01:39:58.380
will be watched over and over for how much i

01:39:58.380 --> 01:40:03.119
loved thunderbolts oh yeah for sure so i think

01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:08.359
rating personal score i think i'm gonna be at

01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:13.380
a 94 damn yeah i i'm just a couple points below

01:40:13.380 --> 01:40:18.340
you i'm sitting at 92 hell yeah but i enjoyed

01:40:18.340 --> 01:40:25.750
this movie So much. I loved it. I found it to

01:40:25.750 --> 01:40:31.630
be so good. And it was fun. It's basically everything

01:40:31.630 --> 01:40:38.050
I've missed about what Marvel does is giving

01:40:38.050 --> 01:40:43.170
us flawed characters in a fun way. That's all

01:40:43.170 --> 01:40:48.300
I really ask. And that's what we got. Yeah. so

01:40:48.300 --> 01:40:51.819
i i loved what they did immensely so yeah i'm

01:40:51.819 --> 01:40:56.520
giving it a 92. hell yeah all right going through

01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:59.239
these scores real quick starting off with story

01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:03.760
we started off real strong sitting at a 92 writing

01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:08.939
got a bit of a bump sitting at a 96 .5 nice acting

01:41:08.939 --> 01:41:12.840
went down just a hair sitting at a 92 .5 which

01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:14.939
puts it on the exact same level as character

01:41:14.939 --> 01:41:19.600
development also sitting at a 92 .5. The effects

01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:24.760
are sitting at an 88, just for some minor rubberiness.

01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:28.340
The music is our lowest category, sitting at

01:41:28.340 --> 01:41:31.699
a 6 out of 10. The costumes are sitting at a

01:41:31.699 --> 01:41:34.279
9 out of 10, and then our personal score ended

01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:38.899
up averaging out to a 93. So with that, the final

01:41:38.899 --> 01:41:42.260
All Bros. Letter Grade for Thunderbolts has come

01:41:42.260 --> 01:41:48.109
out to a B+. What? Bro. All right. How close

01:41:48.109 --> 01:41:51.989
was it to an A minus? Let's find out. It better

01:41:51.989 --> 01:41:58.890
have been super close. Oh, my God. Point zero

01:41:58.890 --> 01:42:05.069
seven. Son of a bitch. Oh, my gosh. It was so

01:42:05.069 --> 01:42:11.210
close. Oh, man. It's our new number one B plus

01:42:11.210 --> 01:42:16.699
movie, though. Okay. i'll take that i like that

01:42:16.699 --> 01:42:21.840
it is seriously like it's thunderbolts and then

01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:24.380
like right above it's the matrix at an a minus

01:42:24.380 --> 01:42:30.060
damn like it is it is that so our god i thought

01:42:30.060 --> 01:42:32.579
we were close with freaking rocket man dude rocket

01:42:32.579 --> 01:42:36.180
man was sitting at an 89 .91 this is sitting

01:42:36.180 --> 01:42:44.210
at an 89 .93 god damn holy shit yeah right God,

01:42:44.210 --> 01:42:46.329
that almost stings a little bit, doesn't it?

01:42:46.329 --> 01:42:49.909
Yeah, it does. Yeah, seriously. Wow. Yeah. All

01:42:49.909 --> 01:42:54.149
right, so since I already said it, let's go what

01:42:54.149 --> 01:42:59.449
it's below first. So it's below The Matrix, which

01:42:59.449 --> 01:43:04.649
is in the A - category. It is below Guillermo

01:43:04.649 --> 01:43:09.609
del Toro's Pinocchio. Okay. It is below Soul.

01:43:09.930 --> 01:43:15.430
Okay. It's below Us. Okay. And it is below 1917.

01:43:16.310 --> 01:43:19.970
Okay. Yeah, go in the opposite direction. And

01:43:19.970 --> 01:43:24.289
these are all B -plus movies. It is above Rocketman.

01:43:25.250 --> 01:43:29.189
Yeah, definitely agree. It's above The Avengers.

01:43:30.390 --> 01:43:36.789
Oh, shit. Yeah. Damn. It's above Dawn of the

01:43:36.789 --> 01:43:40.409
Planet of the Apes. I can't disagree. I can't

01:43:40.409 --> 01:43:44.539
argue that. Yeah, it's... above ghostbusters

01:43:44.539 --> 01:43:49.140
frozen empire yeah definitely agree with that

01:43:49.140 --> 01:43:54.600
and then it is above elf yeah okay i like its

01:43:54.600 --> 01:43:59.000
placement i do too like honestly like it's it's

01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:03.600
not a horrible placement yeah all right now with

01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:06.920
just mcu movies you want to hear like what it's

01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:10.979
above and below yeah absolutely all right so

01:44:10.979 --> 01:44:14.789
we have it sitting Below Multiverse of Madness.

01:44:15.029 --> 01:44:19.029
I'm indifferent about that. We have it below

01:44:19.029 --> 01:44:21.609
Shang -Chi. I'm indifferent about that one, too.

01:44:21.729 --> 01:44:27.430
A little bit. It's below Volume 2. Okay. Yeah,

01:44:27.569 --> 01:44:33.050
I can accept that. And then The Eternals. It's

01:44:33.050 --> 01:44:35.029
below Eternals. It's below Eternals. Oh, shit.

01:44:35.130 --> 01:44:39.970
But it is above The Avengers, like I said. It's

01:44:39.970 --> 01:44:44.699
above Black Widow. Okay, yeah, fair. It's above

01:44:44.699 --> 01:44:50.039
Far From Home. Okay. It's above Black Panther.

01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:55.460
Wow. And it is above Captain Marvel. Yeah, okay.

01:44:55.859 --> 01:44:59.420
Yeah, so our new ranking, which some of these

01:44:59.420 --> 01:45:03.779
need to be discussed, it's No Way Home, Volume

01:45:03.779 --> 01:45:08.500
3, Deadpool and Wolverine, Endgame, Infinity

01:45:08.500 --> 01:45:13.090
War, Wakanda Forever. Eternals, Guardians Volume

01:45:13.090 --> 01:45:18.010
2, Shang -Chi, Multiverse of Madness, Thunderbolts,

01:45:18.069 --> 01:45:22.630
The Avengers, Black Widow, Far From Home, Black

01:45:22.630 --> 01:45:26.649
Panther, Captain Marvel, Spider -Man Homecoming,

01:45:26.949 --> 01:45:31.390
Age of Ultron, Thor Ragnarok, Quantumania, The

01:45:31.390 --> 01:45:34.789
Marvels, Love and Thunder, Brave New World, and

01:45:34.789 --> 01:45:37.890
then Ant -Man and the Wasp. We put Quantumania

01:45:37.890 --> 01:45:42.029
above The Marvels? We did. What the hell is wrong

01:45:42.029 --> 01:45:45.649
with this man? It's not by much. Oh, like how

01:45:45.649 --> 01:45:52.569
much, uh, 0 .1. Okay. Like they're both B movies.

01:45:54.050 --> 01:45:55.590
Okay. I mean, yeah, I would definitely agree

01:45:55.590 --> 01:45:58.649
with, well, yeah, I would agree with it. Yeah.

01:45:59.130 --> 01:46:02.609
Anyway, that's where it is, where it's sitting.

01:46:03.630 --> 01:46:06.310
Okay. Wow. Like I said, like it sucks that it

01:46:06.310 --> 01:46:09.720
didn't get into the A's, but. for how strong

01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:13.260
of a B plus it is our number one B plus and where

01:46:13.260 --> 01:46:16.720
it's at rank wise. Like, I think I, I think I'm,

01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.539
I think I'm going to be okay with this. Yeah.

01:46:20.220 --> 01:46:22.960
It's hard. It's hard to disagree because like,

01:46:22.979 --> 01:46:28.340
I know what threw it down and it was, um, the

01:46:28.340 --> 01:46:31.760
soundtrack. And like, I can't really justify

01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:36.119
bumping it up to a seven. Like I couldn't. Yeah.

01:46:36.729 --> 01:46:41.550
Damn. Yeah. I'm a bitch. Curse being critics,

01:46:41.710 --> 01:46:46.329
man. Yep. This is what's good about some of our

01:46:46.329 --> 01:46:52.170
rankings. It keeps us honest. That's true. That

01:46:52.170 --> 01:46:55.850
is very true. Yeah. Obviously, because we had

01:46:55.850 --> 01:47:01.020
some listener input. Or just input from other

01:47:01.020 --> 01:47:03.739
people. Like the, some of the scores got a little

01:47:03.739 --> 01:47:08.739
skewed, but I'm very curious if we, if it was

01:47:08.739 --> 01:47:12.500
just us that did no way home, if it would still

01:47:12.500 --> 01:47:15.760
be number one, genuinely curious. I don't know.

01:47:16.500 --> 01:47:19.859
I, I honestly think that volume three would beat

01:47:19.859 --> 01:47:22.819
it. I think volume would do. I think volume three

01:47:22.819 --> 01:47:26.300
would become our new number one. Yeah. Like no

01:47:26.300 --> 01:47:28.340
way home would have been up there, but I think.

01:47:28.729 --> 01:47:31.270
Yeah, let me see, just for shits and giggles,

01:47:31.390 --> 01:47:35.430
if that was... Oh, yeah. So, No Way Home was

01:47:35.430 --> 01:47:39.229
the last one, or one of the last movies that

01:47:39.229 --> 01:47:41.890
we did that was in the old format, where we combined

01:47:41.890 --> 01:47:47.329
everything. Oh, okay. So, that sucks. Yeah, that

01:47:47.329 --> 01:47:53.350
does. Yeah, now, like, anything between Sing

01:47:53.350 --> 01:47:57.340
2... Oh, nope. Okay, so we have the scores for

01:47:57.340 --> 01:48:01.140
Promising Young Woman down to the Forever Purse.

01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:06.279
So anything that we had a guest on after Promising

01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:14.539
Young Woman is in the combined scores. Okay.

01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:17.479
Because we had a guest for Suicide Squad. We

01:48:17.479 --> 01:48:20.020
had a guest for Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard, Willoughby's,

01:48:20.020 --> 01:48:22.859
and Shang -Chi. And then after that, we started

01:48:22.859 --> 01:48:27.319
separating. the scores a little bit. Okay. Was

01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:35.119
Vic on Shang -Chi? Yes. Okay. Anyway, that wraps

01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:38.539
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01:48:38.539 --> 01:48:40.140
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01:49:01.529 --> 01:49:04.529
you like this episode of Thunderbolts next week,

01:49:04.609 --> 01:49:08.810
I believe we are going to be breaking down. Finally,

01:49:08.810 --> 01:49:12.090
Nosferatu, which I've heard is an interesting

01:49:12.090 --> 01:49:15.350
movie. Yes, I have heard the same, especially

01:49:15.350 --> 01:49:18.109
the stuff from behind the scenes that I've heard.

01:49:18.210 --> 01:49:20.720
Oh, shit. I didn't know anything about behind

01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:22.779
the scenes. I just heard, all I've heard about

01:49:22.779 --> 01:49:25.760
this movie is that it's unnecessarily horny.

01:49:26.819 --> 01:49:28.880
That's yeah. I've heard that too, but like, I

01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:32.899
thought I heard somewhere like that. What was

01:49:32.899 --> 01:49:36.939
it? Like Nick, they took like Nicholas, isn't

01:49:36.939 --> 01:49:40.199
Nicholas Holt in this movie? Sure. I think he

01:49:40.199 --> 01:49:44.520
is. Either way, someone's prosthetic penis from

01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:47.939
this movie was like taken home or something like

01:49:47.939 --> 01:49:52.659
that. someone's prosthetic yeah like someone

01:49:52.659 --> 01:49:56.859
did they they cloned him okay not prostate like

01:49:56.859 --> 01:50:02.420
just um uh just like a prop penis i guess okay

01:50:02.420 --> 01:50:05.819
yeah or i can't remember it kind of feels like

01:50:05.819 --> 01:50:08.279
you could buy your own dildo but you know here

01:50:08.279 --> 01:50:11.260
you know what before we close out let me i want

01:50:11.260 --> 01:50:14.060
to confirm this okay that could be a fun story

01:50:14.060 --> 01:50:16.279
for next week let's leave let's leave yeah okay

01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.380
yeah let's leave people on red okay all right

01:50:19.380 --> 01:50:22.680
sounds good we'll come back next week on the

01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:26.340
status of that uh prosthetic uh but until then

01:50:26.340 --> 01:50:29.359
this has been the all bros podcast i'm caleb

01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:32.199
and i'm jonathan and we'll catch you guys next

01:50:32.199 --> 01:50:35.060
week deuces see ya