What is up, bros? I'm Jonathan. And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give
you guys the most detailed movie reviews out
there with as little bias as possible. Welcome
to the All Bros. This week on the podcast, since
we're kind of still getting, you know... back
into the swing of things um no weekly watches
um so we'll just be straight up getting into
our i almost said breakdown um headliner of the
evening um i'll eventually stop saying breakdown
you know it's been like two three years since
we stopped saying that but i'll eventually oh
it is a breakdown it's just it's the the you're
confusing it with main event that that that's
what yeah that's what it is But our headliner
of the evening will be our breakdown. There we
go. Of Mufasa, the Lion King. Oh, yeah. The latest
prequel that I'm sure nobody asked for. Yeah.
But anyway. Honestly, even if we were doing weekly
watch like we were supposed to, I wouldn't have
anything to put on it. Oh, really? I mean, I
had a couple. I don't know, actually. No, because
I think the last like movie I watched and it
wasn't really even a movie because it was like
a two part series. Was that to catch a killer?
Gacy thing that came out. It doesn't count. Yeah,
it doesn't. So that, though, that was really
good. So I think if I've me and the wife have
attempted to watch Gladiator 2. We literally
got two minutes in before the kids woke up, and
I'm like, are you actually shitting me? I hope
you guys can eventually watch it. Well, no, because
I don't want to talk about Sinners, because I'm
assuming we'll be doing a breakdown of that eventually.
I'd say, yeah, eventually. Sorry. No, I was just
saying, there's a few movies out there that have
been released that I'd like to talk about, like
Novocaine. oh yeah oh have you seen that no so
good ah gosh yeah that was good um i i was able
to catch the uh re -release of revenge of the
sith and loved it even more watching that on
the big screen that was fantastic um i will say
uh i know caleb i know you really enjoy them
you had a good time with the minecraft movie
um but i absolutely despise the director now
Why? So I'm assuming you've heard the whole chicken
jockey meme thing with what's happening in theaters?
Yeah. Okay. The director, I don't know his name,
straight up said, I don't know why people are
getting so mad about this. Nobody got hurt from
popcorn. Yeah, that's true. But you're not the
one that has to clean that shit up. You think
it's okay for people to trash movie theaters.
they're not fans like excited. Like, you know,
like it's not like Avengers end game where like
people are like excited for a moment, like their
popcorn accidentally like come like flies out
of their hands. No, these are just fricking stupid
high schoolers going to this movie. And when
that, that scene comes on, they film themselves
shouting chicken jockey, doing stupid shit all
just for, to hopefully get a viral video. yeah
like i understand like because he i like i know
he's he is getting shit for like for creating
that moment and he's just like okay but like
it's not i guess it's for him it's just like
it's not my responsibility how people react to
my movie like and that's the like i wouldn't
be mad at him if he hadn't have said that comment
like people don't get hurt from popcorn like
Yeah, true. Nobody gets hurt from popcorn, maybe
unless you get butter in the eye. But you're
not a movie theater employee, dude. You don't
have to clean up that mess. Yeah, that's fair.
That is kind of a big move. Did you? I'm assuming
you've seen some of the videos. Oh, I've seen
so many of them. I saw some dude that brought
a live chicken. Yeah. Did you see what movie
theater that was? Oh, no. It was the Provo Cinemark.
No. Dead serious. Cause freaking when they, so
the people that like, cause like it was filmed
in so many different angles. It's insane. Um,
but everyone and their mother has a phone now.
Yeah. But freaking someone actually caught the
guy running out of the movie theater with the
chicken. I'm just like, that is freaking Provo
Cinemark. That's in the Provo mall. That's beautiful.
Yeah. Oh man. But, uh, They are also really pushing
for it to be the Super Mario Bros. movie for
highest grossing video game adaptation because
they're re -releasing it this weekend to coincide
with the whole meme culture to where I'm assuming
that something's going to happen with the chicken
jockey that they're going to... something's gonna
flash on the screen referring to the meme they're
gonna have it to where you can sing along with
all the songs um and i don't know personally
just i i don't want it to be the super mario
bros movie i want that to still be number one
but i'm afraid that after this release it's gonna
beat it because it's at 800 million worldwide
worldwide right now When a movie like this is
going to do some cheap move, and honestly, I've
grown to know in my heart that this is what Avengers
Endgame did. When you're going to come back with
a re -release of a new movie just so you can
get into that top slot, that's kind of a bitch
move. Yeah, I mean, it ended up not mattering
because, you know, Avatar re -released. took
the spot yeah what dude just like can you could
you not just sit there and know in your heart
that you were better yeah no like like i don't
love the first avatar i really enjoy the second
one and so i was on cloud nine knowing that avengers
end game the movie that that was the 10 -year
build -up from the beginning of the MCU was the
number one highest grossing movie of all time,
not adjusted for inflation, that it was the highest
grossing movie of all time. That just made you
feel so good as a Marvel fan. I'm sure you felt
the same way. I did. Again, I did feel a way
because they went about it and released this
unreleased footage and shit. And it was like
a super incomplete, stupid looking version of
the Hulk. and i'm like no yeah but james cameron's
no better with no james cameron i mean like he
just really re -released the movie right like
yeah yeah no he didn't add anything or anything
i don't even know if they did um like 3d showings
because you like avatar made a lot of its money
from 3d showings and i don't even know if they
did that yeah i i can understand that i'm just
like really dude like come on yeah bitch move
but i gotta be a dick yeah you can let us have
that for like a minute yeah we got what like
a whole six months this is this this is how i
would have handled it personally if i was james
cameron i would have been like okay let marvel
have their their time to shine and whatever be
number one for x amount of time and then right
before avatar 2 comes out then do a re -release
and just be like and then then yeah then you
take the number one slot back because everyone's
excited because not only are you getting the
money for the people that are pumped to see number
two like you're getting like all the people that
are like oh shit like we can go see one and two
yeah see that would make perfect sense Yeah,
and then you retake the top slot, and everything's
good in the world. Yeah, you're just like, okay,
you won a fair and square. Yeah, like, okay,
you guys had your moment. We're taking it back
now. Yeah. I would have been so much happier
with that. Because he did a re -release while
Endgame was still in theaters, didn't he? It
was either that or just a couple months after.
Yeah, it was close enough where I'm just like,
bitch move. Absolute bitch move. Endgame didn't
even have the top spot for six months. Yeah,
that's bullshit. That's absolute bullshit. You
could have done it in such a more classy way.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly your way that you said
with re -releasing it right before Avatar 2 comes
out. Yeah. but so yeah i freaking i personally
hate that they're doing that for minecraft and
i really hope that it doesn't be the super mario
bros movie because i think the super mario bros
movie is a better movie tenfold i'll give you
that dude freaking iris has been like anytime
she plays minecraft now she's all like she's
just sitting there she'll be building like a
little tree like today she was building a christmas
tree And she would put lights on it. And like
the whole time she's just, see like moments,
like, like, see, like if it's like, you know,
kids singing along to the songs or they get excited
when they got excited for the chicken jockey,
that's fine. Like kids getting excited for it
and like screaming it along. That's fine. I love
seeing that, but fricking when it's high school
or even like junior high kids that just to be
little assholes are fricking, you know, throwing
their drinks around popcorn i've seen videos
where people shot off fireworks in the movie
theater when chicken jockey came on i'm just
like too much yeah too much like come on oh man
there's always someone that ruins the experience
for everybody but i mean like listen i'm not
gonna be upset like really either way Once again,
it's just like, sure, go ahead, pull this bitch
move. But I hope Nintendo, because Nintendo's
classy. I bet they do what I hope that they do.
And when they release Super Mario Bros. 2, then
they do the whole re -release, knock Minecraft
off its pedestal, and then go straight into Super
Mario 2. I'll tell you which one I wish did better.
I mean, it almost hit 500 million worldwide,
but I wish the Sonic movies did better. Me too,
dude. I wish Sonic 3 got so... As much as I love
the Super Mario Bros. movie, I would have been
totally fine. I would have loved it if Sonic
the Hedgehog 3 beat it for the highest grossing
video game movie of all time. Same. Dude, that
movie still freaking hits. yeah it's so freaking
good yeah i freaking love that man anyway yeah
so after after that rant uh but sorry adding
one more thing like another like a good example
of you know like fans like not like you know
like doing that kind of but like actually you
know like just excited for like the moment and
everything um i remember like when we when me
and my buddy jc saw uh revenge of the sith There's
an introduction by Hayden Christensen saying,
you know, thank you for coming to the 20th anniversary
of Avenger the Sith. I hope you're excited to
watch Anakin's turn to the dark side. Please
enjoy the movie. And people just like before,
like before even like the Star Wars logo cheered,
there was like, whoa, yeah, that's fine. I love
seeing that stuff. Yeah. Like fan, like there's
nothing wrong with fan interaction. Yeah. there's
absolutely something wrong with fans being freaking
dipshits yeah so like i i loved seeing those
two like comparing those two different reactions
because like i've seen a lot of people's reactions
with revenge of the sith that have all been positive
like doesn't ruin anybody's experience and then
there's all the minecraft shit yeah but i don't
know if you've seen it but a lot of screenings
when um and anakin's about to kill all the younglings
and the one kid's just like there's too many
of them what are we going to do and his lightsaber
turns on i've seen so many audiences cheer dude
i saw one where it was a theater full of people
that like when that was said just like he turns
his lightsaber on and then everyone in the audience
just like turns their lightsabers on okay that's
awesome like you guys like are freaking hilarious
oh shit when people like cheery i was expecting
like so much to just shout out yeah fuck them
kids bro dude my favorite joke is when uh i forget
which which movie it's in i think it's rise of
skywalker when she has that blade and she's like
while she's holding it she's talking about like
this blade has done horrible things like oh everyone's
like yeah all while she's holding the youngling
slayer 9000 oh man are you shitting me dude freaking
star wars fans don't mess around because i saw
um a video for the force awakens um like i think
it was opening night and someone it was like
the like you know like uh did the classic star
Wars logo. And it was right before the crawl
crawl started. And someone started pulling out
like their phone, but like their flash was on
and someone just shouts, are you fucking kidding
me? Turn that shit off. Just loose. Oh man. But
like being part of a fandom is such a hit and
miss experience. It is. Yeah, it is. Cause sometimes.
sometimes you get freaking chicken jockey like
those assholes and then sometimes you get freaking
like the like the end game on your left reaction
yes yeah like oh my gosh dude i'll never forget
that never that was oh so good yeah marvel's
good at shit like that they yeah really are i'm
so pumped dude I'm excited to see what other
moments like that can be captured. Yeah, same
here. Because I feel eventually they're going
to overstay their welcome. Yeah, I don't look
forward to that day. But hopefully it doesn't
happen anytime soon. Yeah. But anyway, what do
you say we jump into Mufasa? As you guys can
tell, we have a lot to say about that movie.
Yeah. Yeah, I got quite a bit. So yeah, let's
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so jumping right into our headliner of the evening,
which, like we said earlier, is our breakdown
of Mufasa, The Lion King. Caleb, do you want
to let people know how we break down movies on
this podcast? I would love to. If you are new
to our breakdown system, we have split movies
into eight different categories that we individually
score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we will be scoring
are story, writing, acting. character development
effects music costumes which in this case would
be more character design than anything uh and
then give it our own personal score at the very
end all those numbers get magically added up
and spit through our algorithm and give us a
letter grade to compare this movie to others
of a similar grade as well as percentage that
gives us a ranking of everything But that's not
nearly as important as the great itself. Despite
things you may have heard. Despite someone's
comments. DJ, excuse me. Yeah. So if you have
not seen Mufasa, the Lion King, you might be
fine. It's not horrible, but it's not great either.
It's decent. Yeah. Listen, if you like Lion King.
you're gonna like yeah spoiler spoiler warning
like yeah spoiler warning either way but you
might be fine i will i will say though maybe
just because uh the freaking live action remake
was a beat for beat remake i think i liked this
better maybe just because it was actually different
i'll give you that yeah i i i could give you
that okay Yeah, so if you have not seen Mufasa
the Lion King, we are about to spoil the entire
freaking thing for you in our favorite segment
that we like to call Reading with Rose. All right.
After Simba becomes king of the Pride Lands,
he and Nala have a daughter named Kiara and are
expecting another cub. They leave for an oasis
where Nala can give birth while Simba asks Timon
and Pumbaa to watch over Kiara. Wow. I missed
the period there. While Simba asked Timon and
Pumbaa to watch over Kiara, Rafiki soon visits
them and decides to share the story about her
grandfather, Mufasa, with Timon and Pumbaa providing
color commentary in between. Mufasa and his parents,
Masego and Afia, I know I butchered those names,
but we're just going to go with it, search for
the mythical Melele. A flood sweeps Mufasa into
a wetland where he meets Taka, a royal cub. They
are attacked by young crocodiles until Taka's
mother, Queen Eshe, intervenes. She accepts Mufasa,
but Taka's father, King Obasi, criticizes him
for befriending an outsider. Obasi holds a race
between his son and Mufasa to determine whether
the latter can join his pride. When Mufasa lags
due to exhaustion, Taka throws the race so he
can stay. As Mufasa and Taka grow up, they form
a strong bond, though Obasi continually tries
to keep Taka with him and orders Mufasa to stay
with the lionesses. Eshe teaches Mufasa to hunt
and use his senses, among other life skills.
While out hunting one day, two white lions attack
them. Eshei takes a hit, so Mufasa jumps in to
help her. He ends up killing one, and together
they force the other to flee. Taka witnesses
the attack, but retreats in fear. The survivor,
Azibo, informs Kiros, leader of the Outsiders,
a pride composed of lions who were outcasted
from their respective prides for their white
fur. Kiros seeks vengeance for the death of his
son, Shagu, whom Mufasa killed and approaches
Obasi's pride. Sensing them coming, Mufasa warns
them and is ordered to flee with Taka. When they
arrive, the outsiders slaughter Obasi, Eshei,
and the rest of their pride offscreen. Mufasa
and Taka escape them by jumping off a waterfall
and into a river. When Mufasa and Taka reach
land, They encounter a stray lioness named Zarabi,
whose family was killed by the Outsider Pride,
her hornbill scout Zazu, and eventually a younger
Rafiki. Rafiki tells them he is going to Melele
to find a brother he saw in prophetic visions.
And the group follows him there. Taka develops
romantic feelings for Sarabi. Wow, I don't know
grammar. The outsiders continue to pursue them,
so Sarabi causes an elephant stampede to distract
and disorient the outsiders, allowing the group
to escape. She is knocked unconscious after falling
into the stampede's path, causing Mufasa to save
her. Out of loyalty, he lies and tells Sarabi
that Taka saved her. The group heads through
a snowy mountain range following Rafiki's direction,
with Zazu covering their tracks in the snow.
Surabi tells Mufasa that she knows he saved her,
and they soon fall in love. Secretly watching
this, a jealous Taka meets Kiros and the lost
and hungry outsiders, offering a proposition
for Kiros to get revenge on Mufasa for his son's
death in exchange for Taka joining his pride.
The next day, the group reaches Melele, a lush...
oasis, with Taka secretly leaving marks for the
Outsiders to follow. Rafiki finds the tree from
his vision and claims Mufasa as his brother before
the Outsiders attack. Mufasa learns of Taka's
treachery while fighting Kyros. Despite this,
Mufasa rallies the animals in Melele to fight
off the Outsiders. Kyros forces Mufasa into a
cave and prepares to finish him off. Seeing his
brother exhausted and realizing what he has done,
a remorseful Taka intervenes, causing Kyros to
slash Taka's eye, leaving a scar. Rafiki causes
an earthquake, which kills the outsiders, and
causing Mufasa and Kyros to fall into a cave
lake. Kyros attempts to drown Mufasa, but a falling
rock allows Mufasa to send Kyros plummeting to
his death, and he swims away to safety. Mufasa
has trouble getting out of the water, but is
again saved by Taka in a similar way to when
they were cubs. Taka narrowly resists the temptation
to drown him. Mufasa and Sarabe exit the cave
together as the animals celebrate their victory.
The animals, in gratitude for Mufasa uniting
them against the outsiders, make him king of
Melele. Mufasa is soon reunited with Afia, who
tells him that Masego died in the previous flood.
Mufasa confronts Taka about his betrayal and
allows him to stay, but refuses to refer to Taka
by his name anymore. Taka renames himself Scar,
and Mufasa then ascends upon the newly formed
Pride Rock and roars triumphantly, becoming a
king with Scar watching from behind. Back in
the present, Kiara roars at the skies as the
spirit of her grandfather looms over her. She
and her friends soon reunite with Simba to meet
her newly born sibling, to whom Kiara offers
to tell Mufasa's story. I'll be real, this is
going to be a really tough one for me. So you
hated it that much? No, I didn't hate it. It
was just... The problem with this movie is it's
just so unnecessary. It is. We didn't need this.
The way that they told it, yeah, it was fine.
I will admit, I had a decent time throughout.
The performances were good. The songs, actually,
I thought were pretty good, some better than
others. But just, yeah, when they got towards
the end and, you know, I already forgot the bad
guy's name. um is it kuros kuros yeah kuros when
he freaking uh slashes uh taka's eye and you
know then that leads to mufasa saying oh i can
never call you my brother anymore i can't call
you talk anymore he's like well then just call
me scar i'm like oh good lord yeah dude for real
i'm like are you shit me that's how you're gonna
do it that's how you got that okay all right
like that's so dumb It felt like the way that
they built up Taka's story, like how him and
Mufasa were cubs together, that Mufasa was his
adopted brother, the relationship that they had.
I really actually really enjoyed their brother
relationship from beginning to when shit hit
the fan. I actually really liked that. Just the
fact that, you know, you're leading up to him
getting his name scar and that's what you go
with because he actually had got a scar. Like,
I thought it would be more symbolic. Like, yeah,
like I know he has the scar in the Lion King,
but I thought there would be more meaning behind
that. Dude, for real, though, this like I was
I was. thinking all day of how they could have
done that better and there's so many different
ways like what's the bad guy's name again kiros
kiros i personally feel that kiros should have
given his like scar his name yeah that that would
have made more sense yeah like i think it should
have been that i also thought like okay like
here's how like what i thought i'm like oh this
is going to be tied to how he was like marking
the path to to where they were at like yeah i
was thinking the same thing i'm like okay so
like it's because he's leaving these scars on
the land that are leading them to to this area
so i was like okay like i i can dig this i can
do this and then no it's just like Just call
me scar. And then he turns around and walks away.
And I'm like, what was that? Like, I was so pissed.
I'm like, they rushed so hard. They did. They
tried to set up. They tried to set up this origin
story for Mufasa and talk and their relationship
and how we got from the beginning to their relationship
in the Lion King. And the one thing, one of the
top things that like I feel should be there should
be some backstory behind the, you know, with
him being his name being Scar, why everyone calls
him Scar. That storyline that should have had,
you know, like a lot of backstory to it should
actually had focus on it is rushed like that.
yeah you're building up to this moment and there's
like oh no he's for one he names himself that
it's not like he's given that nickname yeah but
he should have been too like cursed with the
name yeah it should have been something that
he announced yeah he should have announced it
like mufasa should have been the one to be like
like i can no longer call you my brother you
are no longer taka to me like for like basically
to, to make sure you never forget what you've
done by marking the land, uh, to lead our enemies
to us. Like I now deem you scar. Like it should
have been something like that. No. Yeah. Like
he could have been like, it could have been like
kind of like symbolic. Like you're, you are literally
a, a scar on this, um, this land on this tribe.
And so that's what we're going to call you. Now
you're a scar. You're scar. Yeah. like god dude
i was so pissed i was so pissed off and i don't
know dude like there was so much bullshit here
like i will freaking maybe it's just me but like
the fact that it's um just because it's been
done to death the fact that it's a girl that
um is what gets in between mufasa and taka i'm
just like of course yeah i'm just like a freaking
course like no it's it's not because you know
one uh well i mean you know taka ends up you
know turning on sim on simba on mufasa but that
wasn't like the thing that like the biggest reason
why they why taka turned against mufasa no it's
because mufasa got the girl Like, really? Like,
yeah, what a basic bitch story. Seriously, you
set up like you you go out of your way to set
up the brother relationship between these two.
How Taka did everything that he could as a cub
to make sure that Mufasa wasn't killed by his
dad, that Mufasa was taken care of. And then
frickin as they grow up. you know like yeah mufasa
they they still are taking care of each other
but what drives them apart is this this um new
lioness comes into play i'm like oh really um
ah yeah like something else should have been
the catalyst to them separating like i'm trying
to think of what else it could have been like
i think this is personally how i would have handled
it i think that it should have been where the
more like more and more people not just the the
girl but more and more people should have joined
the their like little pride that they had like
i think that they should have had like an elephant
they should have had a rhino a hippo like all
these other creatures should have kind of joined
their pack and all of them start to rally behind
mufasa like and then like any like suggestion
and then it's just like then taka is just getting
more and more jealous because he's just like
he's not of noble blood like i am yet they they
rally behind behind him and it should have become
more of a jealousy thing of like i'm like i'm
the noble that like of noble blood here not him
yeah like why are they following him and then
it's just and then yeah show the little reasons
why like the the cowardice of taka like not even
attempting to save what's her face uh i already
forgot her name i know i'm gonna pull up a cast
list real quick uh sarabi that's what it is yeah
it's just like one of those things like why are
you going out of your way to give us just a basic
bitch story like oh like scar got jealous i don't
give a shit yeah Like if you're really enough
to tear apart brothers. No. Yeah, exactly. If
you are, if your brother relationship as, as
a strong and meaningful as they build it up to
be literally, it would take the end of the world
for you guys to like have a falling out. And
the fact that it's a girl that makes these two
have a falling out. No, I call bullshit. Yeah.
especially one that they've only known a few
days. Yeah. Like Ellie or just whatever the timeline
is. It doesn't seem like it's very long. No,
but yeah, just that like, you know, like speaking
of, you know, personal experience, I feel like
truly it would take the end of the world for
me and Caleb to have a falling out. It really
would. We've, we've been through too much shit
together. Nowhere in my mind would it think,
well, you know, considering that he's married,
Would it be that a girl would be the falling
out between the two of us? Yeah, not likely.
Yeah, it just I don't know. It's just lazy because
that is the stereotypical driving point. Like
the it's the it's the stereotypical wedge. Between
like best friends or brother, like any any between
any two men, you throw a woman in the middle
and that's like as stereotypical as you can get.
Like, oh, and this is what breaks them apart
and like their their brotherly bond. It's just
like, no, no, that's just stupid. Yeah, like
maybe I don't even know, dude, like maybe if
they're if their relationship was weaker, I could
have. like accepted it better but i think it
they should have just kept laying on that mufasa
was just a natural born leader and no one liked
taka yeah you know because yeah your idea is
freaking great like that would have made so much
more sense yeah it should have it should have
been based off of jealousy of title not jealousy
of over a girl yeah like that I want to know
who, how many writers were on this movie? Cause
I want to know the specific writer who thought
that was a good plot plot twist. Yeah. Uh, it
looks like there's only one credited writer.
Oh, what's his name? Jeff Nathanson. All right,
Jeff. Well, you need to go to school of not,
uh, picking the most stereotypical way of breaking
up a relationship. You need to learn. Oh my hell.
Uh -oh. Oh, no. So, listen, he's had some good
stuff. Okay. Hold on. I want to make sure that
he's, like, not the only. Okay, that one doesn't
count because he was part of a team. This one
doesn't count, part of a team. So, okay, so he
was, he has writing credits from Rush Hour 2,
part of a team. The greatest sequel of all time.
Catch me if you can, part of a team. The Terminal,
part of a team. Rush Hour 3, part of a team.
Okay. Oh, this is going to be the kicker, dude.
Oh, no. Okay. He doesn't get full credit for
this, but Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but he
was part of a team. Oh, God. It's adding up.
It's making sense now. Good Lord. Pirates of
the Caribbean, Dead Men Tell No Tale. Oh, dude.
He wrote the screenplay for Lion King, the OG
remake. Young woman in the sea, part of a team.
That's a Daisy Ridley movie. Okay. And then Mufasa.
Wow. Not a great track record. Not a great track
record, my friend. Wow. Okay. Yeah, that really
tells me all I need to know. Yep. Listen, you're
not forgiven, but now we get. Now we get it.
Yeah. Cause like, I'm thinking of like when,
like, have you seen any of the rush hour movies?
Yeah, I've seen, I think the only one I haven't
seen is one. Okay. I can't, I swear that they,
they've had a falling out on like almost all
of them. But when the, especially in like the
second one, I think like when they have their
falling out, like I feel the reasoning, like
it makes sense. Like, I can understand why. And,
you know, I think, you know, like they don't
go back like as far as frickin Mufasa and Taka.
So, like, I get why the reasonings why they have
a falling out. These two that were literally
literally grew up together because what Mufasa
found Taka when he was. I mean, I don't know
how old, but just a little kid growing up from
a little kid to an adult being with that. that
other lion for your whole life like yeah your
bond is going to become very close and it really
should take a lot a lot for you guys to literally
call it quits with your relationship like that
like something is going to make it to where one
of you turns on the other and just destroys it
all just throws it flushes it down the toilet
um so like it seems that the guy is good has
a um It is, I guess, known for writing characters
having breakups, but the rush hour ones like
somewhat they make a lot more sense than freaking
the breakup that we get in this movie. Yeah.
Like long term relationships should something
big needs to come in the middle. Mm hmm. Like
something bigger than just a girl. Yeah. And
it. it's too much like you're like you're not
going to straight up betray your brother over
a girl like listen are you like will you throw
him under the bus for a girl like yeah probably
like make him look like an idiot sure you're
not going to straight up sentence him to death
yeah no Cause like, they're still, you know,
like they're still young enough to, yeah, I can
understand the like, oh yeah. You know, throwing
them under the bus, like you said, to just impress
the girl. But yeah, no, I don't care if you're
still in that, like, I don't care if you're like
in like the young twenties for like lion age,
you still would not do that to someone you've,
that is literally blood to you that you grew
up together. No, absolutely not. Yeah. dude you
know what like personally i would have done is
just to throw in the connection with the hyenas
is i would have had the hyenas take a part in
like the in the crew that they were building
and then just have them constantly like whispering
in his ear just like like basically like making
him jealous about like over how everyone's listening
to Mufasa over him. Would love that. Yeah. It's
just like, Oh, why are they, why are they listening
to him? Like you're the one of, of noble blood,
like that kind of deal. Like, I think that like
just something to get under his skin. a little
bit and then scan him to question like yeah like
why and then obviously i think there would be
a bonding between them because hyenas like you
could also show the hyenas are also like cowardice
like seriously yeah i think you gotta play that
up something awful like if you can and like i
feel like they did they did a decent job if you
can make the connection between Mufasa and Rafiki
make sense of how they came together. You can
easily bring in the three hyenas and make their
connection with, with scar or Taka, whatever
makes sense. Easy. Yeah. Like, I don't know.
I think that there could have been just other
methods of going about this. Like, I think you
still could have done the thing like where Taka
goes to betray them. But have it be like where
he's talked into doing like a double like kind
of a double agent deal where he goes to the people
and he's just like he's trying to deceive them.
But really, he's just trying to use them to kill
Mufasa so he can come in and be the big hero
and save like save Mufasa's life. Like what?
Like one time and then it just gets out that.
he like i think it should have got been some
like convoluted way of him to make mufasa look
bad or to save his life to look like the hero
and then ultimately like it just it just gets
exposed and then mufasa turns on him and just
like like i can't even look at you blah blah
blah yeah damn man we could have written a way
better prequel straight up maybe maybe have uh
you know two guys that have literally been brothers
uh for many years since junior high have a write
a movie that is about brothers just saying like
it's not a bad idea yeah it's a i don't know
dude like the way that they hire writers and
it's just like it's i don't think it's correct
like if i'm gonna hire someone to write me a
story that's good that has some real like heft
to it i'm going to hire people that are familiar
with the relationships that i'm shooting for
yeah like it should be like the director has
like an idea like this is how it should this
is personally how i think it should go the director
pitches the idea to the studio the the studio
okays it and it's getting ready for like like
they just come in with like a broad idea then
they're just like okay now we need to get a movie
script and screenplay written i'm gonna hire
a team the team should be based off of like this
is the relationship or the dynamic that i want
to play with brothers i'm only going to hire
writers that have brothers like i'd even take
like like brother sister dynamic too like anyone
that has a sibling relationship which obviously
most people do yeah i would say i'd be interested
to see the statistic on that like how many like
only children there are compared to like siblings
yeah i mean but like like i mean you could go
two different directions with it like um like
you mentioned you know like siblings like actual
that you'd be interesting to see hiring two sets
of teams, one that siblings by blood. So, you
know, like you and your brothers and then another
team siblings by choice, you and me, that'd be
interesting to see how to these two teams would
write a story based on sibling relationships.
That'd be cool. Like high hiring, like best friends
or like people with like that brotherly bond
as a team, like a team unit. That'd be sick.
Yeah. Like you could get a really good story
out of that, but just talking about like the
story overall, like it had good bones. Like I
think up until they were, I think once they left
the original pride or like tacos pride, I think
that's where the movie kind of fell apart for
me. Same. Honestly. because yeah like up until
then like i was i i was actually really enjoying
watching these two grow up together like it was
it was actually really nice watching these two
form their brotherly bond but yeah once uh they
have to evade uh taka's uh pride or tribe um
yeah the movie definitely uh falls apart yeah
it's it's i don't know it's rough and then they
kept interjecting the like timon and pumbaa scenes
like kind of going back to the story that was
being told and i'm like can you just not like
no like they're funny like they're totally like
they're funny like i really enjoy them as characters
but it's just the way that it kept interjecting
into the story i'm just like this is too much
it's it kind of it got annoying how many times
they kept saying, wait, we're not in this part.
We're not in this. We're not in this. I'm like,
no, of course you're not. You didn't come along
until Simba was, until Simba was a cub. Yeah.
No one knew you until then. Yeah. It was, it
was over the top. And I was just, it was, like
I said, too much. Yeah. It was just too much.
Like, come on. Like. I understand having them
maybe doing one interjection or whatever, but
not as many as they had. Yeah. Like we said,
story -wise, this one's tough. Yeah. Personally,
I'm in the 70s. I don't know about you. Lower
70s. It's barely cracking 70s for me. That's
fair. Like I might be right at a 70. I think
I'm just a little higher than you at a 72. Okay.
All right. Next up with writing. Literally. Also
not great. Yeah, no, it was, it was, it was not.
Cause yeah, like going with what you said about
like Timon and Pumbaa. Like, yeah, I kind of
got a little annoying as, you know, you're watching
this story. You're listening to this story from
Rafiki and how he's telling Nala and Simba's
daughter. I forgot her name. Kiara. Kiara. Thank
you. He's telling her, you know, like the story
of her grandfather. And like, you're honestly,
you're getting into it at some parts. Like he's,
you know, like. of course, you know, like you're,
you're not hearing his voice over the whole movie,
but you know, or Fiki is a good storyteller,
but like, it felt like you could be getting up.
It could be building up into a, an important
moment. And then all of a sudden it would switch
back to present time and tomorrow and Puma being
like, wait, what? We're not in this part either.
Like, Oh, come on. We, we totally helped out.
Like, why aren't we included this in this? And
I'm just like, I get it. I get that you're trying
to, they're inserted into this movie for comic
relief. I get that. And I understand why you
wanted to, you know, bring back Timon and Pumbaa.
I get it, you know, like how you wanted to tell
this prequel story that, you know, we start out
in the present time. It's being told as a, you
know, a, wow, a past story, you know, how Rafiki's
telling it. I love Timon and Pumbaa. I really
do. But I don't love how much they wrote them
into being interjecting into this movie. Maybe
I would feel different if like it had like the
vibes of like the Lion King one and a half where
it was like, you know, Timon and Pumbaa's movie.
But this is supposed to be the story of how Mufasa
became Mufasa, what happened between Mufasa and
Taka's relationship or scar. And so it took you
out of the movie when Timon and Pumbaa would
interject. As much as I love them, and I especially
love Billy Eichner and Seth Rogen in these roles,
it just sucks that it just takes you out of the
story like that. It does. honestly i would love
to see like a lion king one and a half remake
dude yeah i would too because like you said i
i love those two as the characters they're fantastic
and so like more of them please but just in a
different movie dude i like I didn't feel like
that initially. I'm just like, eh. But the thing
that solidified that for me was when they were
basically retelling the end of The Lion King
with them being the heroes. I'm like, bro, this
is awesome. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe considering
that Mufasa was pretty successful, $200 million
budget, and it made over $700 million, maybe
we could get a live -action remake of The Lion
King one and a half. that listen that would be
a ballsy move like like even like even if he
made it just a disney plus exclusive oh i would
love that i think people would be happy dude
straight up i dude screw doing disney remakes
of like the og shit do remakes of the sequels
that you did yes yeah the direct dvd sequels
yes how dope would that be that yeah that would
be amazing like straight up dude i would lose
my over getting uh peter pan return to neverland
live action oh my god yes that would be amazing
i feel you know i don't know if they could make
it work but like one i'd be interested to see
what they could do uh 101 dalmatians 2. i know
that's like a sequel that i just love to death
that like i kind of want to see But like, I have
a feeling that it would probably be a train wreck
trying to make that into live action. I could
see it though. Yeah. Okay. I could see it. I
would want who I would kind of want them to break.
Like I wanted them to do just a straight up 101
Dalmatians with Emma Stone's Cruella. Yes, please.
Yes. So good in the role. So good that like she,
she, she has earned the right to get to actually
play out, play full on Cruella. Yeah, for real.
I bet you'd have a blast at that role too. Oh
yeah, dude. 100%. Yeah. Uh, gosh, dude, writing
wise, I might be lower. That's fair. I, I don't.
i have a hard time dropping this movie like into
the 60s because i don't think it's it's it's
that awful personally so like but like it barely
stops itself from hitting the 60s so like writing
i'm at a 70. yeah well like the the the writing
issues that i have come from like the bullshit
way that they ended it where it's just like,
just call me star. And then he walks off. Yeah.
Like they ended it so quick. Yeah. No, that's
yeah. That's fair. I think that's where like
99 % of my problems come in. It's near the end.
Like the last, honestly, I'd say about 20 to
25 minutes were rough. i will say one thing that
personally i would have changed also at the end
um when uh sarabi is that simba's daughter's
name uh or wait no that was the girl that was
the girlfriend um what was the daughter's name
again kiara kiara thank you sorry um you know
when she meets her new uh little brother and
she's like let me tell you the story about our
grandfather Personally, I wouldn't have had her
say that. I would have had her say something
like, I promise to be the best big sister. Something
like, I promise to be the best big sister you
could possibly ask for. I promise nothing will
ever tear our sibling relationship apart. Something
that kind of stresses the relationship that happened
between Mufasa and Taka. How their sibling relationship
was broken apart. Oh my God. What was her name
again? Wow. Kiara. Kiara. Wow. You weren't even
close. Yeah. But I would have loved to see Kiara
just emphasize with her new little brother, like,
no, like that's not going to happen to us. Like
we are going to make sure that our sibling bonds
stay strong. I'll be 100 % real. I thought that
the way that they were going to end it was by
her saying, I've always wanted a brother. I actually
would have loved that. Personally, I would have
loved that. I have a feel we're going to be very
divided when it comes to music. Yeah, probably.
Oh my gosh, dude. I understood the sentiment
when Taka basically gave... gave up the race
for Mufasa to win and everything. And like, I
had the same fricking thought that Mufasa pointed
out where he's just like, man, I had to slow
down to let you win and blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. And he's just like, yeah, I also haven't
eaten in days. And I'm like, dude, I'm tired
as fuck, dude. Like, come on. Like, I really
haven't slept and I haven't eaten in days. Uh,
and I'm like, yeah, straight up. I think I have
an excuse. yeah it's like what what was yours
exactly it's like you should have beat me by
a mile yeah for real yeah i i'm writing wise
dude like i had so many issues i'm sitting at
68 completely fair completely fair yeah i like
i also didn't i don't know like timon and pumbaa
were a bit much just at times like i said love
love those two but they need their own movie
they yeah they do hashtag make the lion king
one and a half live action remake yes please
you know how much more excited i'd be for if
instead of them being like yeah we're gonna remake
lion king no remake one and a half dude freaking
if they would have announced that instead of
this prequel i think people would have actually
gotten behind that and especially of course bringing
back billy eichner and seth rogan like because
those two are just i mean we'll get to that with
acting but like i freaking just love those two
in the roles yeah uh all right moving on over
to acting i will add i accidentally left two
out um and i will bring them up right now i left
out on accident young rafiki's voice actor as
well as um The girl that breaks Mufasa and Taka
apart. Oh, Sarabi? Yes. Okay. So just adding
those names in really quickly. Kagisho Ladiba.
Ladiga played Young Rafiki. And then... Tiffany
Boone. Tiffany, thank you. For Sarabi. She's
like far down on the cast. What up with that?
Are you looking at IMDb? No, I was pulling it
up on Google. Oh. Yeah, like, if you pull it
up on IMDb, she's, like, third. Yeah, she's not.
What the hell, Google? She's not even, like,
the first ten people here. That's so weird. Yeah,
that's weird. Sorry. No, you're good. Yeah, so...
Let's see, I can just make a note. Yeah, so going
through this cast list, first up... We have Aaron
Pierre, who voices Mufasa, which I don't know
if you probably do know this, but he's going
to be playing Jon Stewart in the DCU. Yeah, I
do remember you telling me about that. And, you
know, I liked his voice here, so I'm excited.
Yeah, he's got a really good look about him,
dude. He does. But yeah, Aaron Pierre, Mufasa.
Then we got Kelvin Harrison Jr., who voices Taka,
which he nailed the same cadence of Scar. He
did. Not necessarily in the beginning, but once
he, at the end of the movie, and he started talking
to the outsiders and everything, he matched that
cadence so well. He did. Yeah, that was really
cool. Yeah, so he freaking knocked that out of
the park. Let's see. Then we got Blue Ivy Carter,
who voiced Kiara. See, I got them mixed up. I
thought Kiara was the love interest, so that's
why she's so far up on the cast list. My bad.
Fair enough. Let's see. We got Theo Samalu. who
voices young Taka. Braylon Rankins, who voices
young Mufasa. Lenny James, who voices Obasi.
Thandaway Newton, who voices Eshi, which I think
is Mufasa's mother, right? Or is that Taka's
mother? Yeah, it's Taka's mom. Okay. Mads Mikkelsen,
who voices Kiros. Perfect villain casting. Yeah.
God, I love him so much. He's such a great actor.
Underrated as all hell, dude. He is. Seriously.
Then we got Preston Nyman, who voices Sazu. I
don't understand why they just didn't bring back
John Oliver, dude. Yeah, I mean, Guy did a good
impression. Yeah, I mean, he did all right, but
I feel like you still could have gone the John
Oliver route. Maybe they wanted to go the cheaper
route. Yeah, maybe. Let's see. John Canney, who
does the voice for Rafiki. I guess old Rafiki.
Old Rafiki. Freaking perfection. Oh, yeah. Great
as always. Yeah. Billy Eichner, who did the voice
for Timon. He's perfection. He is. Love him.
Then we got Seth Rogen, who does the voice for
Pumbaa. And then that's it. Yeah. My bad for
leaving out those two at the beginning that I
said. Oops. No, you're good. I have a feeling
our top three is going to look the same. Maybe.
What's your top three look like? I probably,
like, I don't know. It's kind of a coin flip
between Aaron and what's the guy's name that
played Taka? Kelvin. i think it's a coin flip
between those two for one and two because like
honestly both of them did really really good
um so i can't decide between one or the other
um but i can i'm assuming it's is it um taka's
voice or taka's voice number one yeah me yeah
like and honestly they were they were like side
by side like through the entire movie until he
went off to talk to the outsider and i like i
heard that cadence of of scar and i was like
oh there we go like that's some that's what i
was looking for yeah i freaking shot him to top
spot for me all right yeah you know what i'm
gonna agree with you yeah yeah he's number one
but then aaron pierre uh mufasa number two so
kelvin herson jr taka number one aaron pierre
mufasa number two uh number three i think just
because like i i loved his energy as him and
i just thought he was just adorable um the kid
that played young taka oh i thought who i thought
you were gonna go oh really yeah uh yeah i would
i would give him number three the kid that played
young mufasa like really good but theo simolu
yeah just i i loved his energy as young taka
like it was great so i i would give him number
three yeah i am actually going with someone that
is not on this list i'm going with uh kagiso
ladiga who did young rafiki good choice i thought
he nailed the the performance like do it trying
to do like young rafiki yeah yeah no he did yeah
no excellent choice Yeah, I thought he did so
good, dude. He matched the cadence and everything
that John Canney was doing. But obviously just
with the lighter voice and whatnot. And I loved
him. I thought he was so good. I thought all
the jokes. I love that he kind of had the same
energy about him. He has that young energy that
Rafiki was given Simba. Just where he was smacking
Simba on the head with shit and whatnot. He has
that same vibe. And I'm like, oh, I'm just waiting
for Mufasa to get bushwhacked with something.
But I loved his performance. I thought he was
so good. So yeah, I'm giving him number three.
Fair. Good choice. Where are you sitting at score
-wise? So I feel the acting... personally is
the strongest of this movie because i feel for
the most part the voice cast is actually pretty
damn good um like everyone that was picked to
for their um their character did a pretty damn
good job um so i think for acting person i think
we've been 84 that's pretty good i'm a hair lower
than you i don't think it quite cracked the 80s
for me i i'm sitting at 78 like i think everyone
did like a pretty good performance i don't think
that there was anyone that stood out too much
above the rest other than the guy who voiced
taka and it's just because like i said he was
able to match the the cadence of of scar from
the like the previous remake yeah yeah that's
fair and yeah like that that's the only one that's
i feel was like above and beyond everyone else
like i don't think quite i don't think they were
quite there yeah like they felt everyone's kind
of felt new to voice acting that's fair i don't
know there's just something there there's just
something off like i couldn't quite put my finger
on it it's just something was off with the performances
so yeah i'm sitting at 78 that's fair all right
next up we got character development yes so like
are we which are we doing mufasa or taka here
this one's hard so it's it's especially with
a prequel on something that's pre -existing we
have to i feel like we have to judge it based
on how they got to the relationship that we see
in the the original or in the in the first okay
um if they were talking about that oh boy okay
yeah um no bueno no and it sucks because you
had a i feel you had a good enough start and
like i feel we talked a lot about this in the
story so i feel like a good amount of the character
development we covered in the story uh i was
talking about that um but just you had such a
i feel a pretty damn good setup of how these
two brothers met How their relationship formed
from young cubs to grown lions. And I feel for
the most part, they actually did a good job.
I bought these two having a strong brother connection.
I definitely bought it. But then you just had
to ruin it bringing in this random girl. I hate
to be that kind of person, but just random chick.
that both of them fall for well i guess mufasa
doesn't fall for her first but taka sure does
but mufasa eventually does and that's what drives
them apart and that's what leads freaking taka
to turning against mufasa and him getting his
name scar and it being stupid as hell just you
had it you had a i'd say like a decently solid
setup of where you could have taken these two's
relationships and how are these two's relationship
and how that ended to where they are in the lion
king but you just threw it out the window when
you decided to bring the the female love interest
in i will be like totally real here they didn't
need to bring in a love interest at all No, they
didn't. They very well could have just been,
like, they could have brought her in, yes, but
not given, like, not let, like, I think them
pushing, like, because I think, like, it's shown
or at least mentioned in the original Lion King
that Scar had a thing for Sarabi. Because Sarabi's
Simba's mother. Yeah. So I think it was stated
that he had a thing for her at some point. And
she was just like, no, like, I think that they
handled that well, but like Mufasa was trying
to be like a wingman. I think it should have
been like scars handling of that whole situation
that should have killed the relationship between
him and Sarabi. And I think that they could have
ended the movie without Mufasa and Sarabi being
an item. It could have just been heavily implied
or whatever. Maybe she goes and walks up next
to him while he's standing on the Pride Rock,
which the Pride Rock was so fucked. Oh, man.
Almost caught Caleb slipping. Oh, just a little
bit, dude. I got worked up about how that happened.
I'm just like, are you kidding me? Like, this
is how Pride Rock happened. Like, it's just an
earthquake. Like, this is so ridiculous. So dumb.
Yeah, I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, come
on. Like, come on. So it was silly. It was so
silly. And I didn't, I didn't care for it, but
it's just, I think that that's how I would have
preferred them to kind of do that in implication
of how like Sarabi and, and Mufasa got together.
Like it should have just been like lightly implied.
It shouldn't have been like laid on as thick
as it was where she's just like straight up going
for him. And he, she's just like, I know that
like. you're the one that protected me it's just
like that why didn't you say so you bitch yeah
exactly like why didn't you call him out like
you were like straight up you were leading scar
on yeah like she definitely was so dumb but yeah
it's just i don't think that they got to that
point like it made sense like where scar's head
was at but i don't think they got there naturally
at all i felt it was very heavy heavily very
heavy -handed how they like led us there yeah
and then just the like the little things where
he like was clawing at his paws to kind of help
him up and everything i'm like you guys you did
that one too many times i'm like that's we get
it you're foreshadowing we get it Yeah, like,
you already did this, you assholes. Yeah. Stop
drilling it into our heads. Oh, we're predicting
what's going to happen. Shut up. It's like, you
ain't predicting shit. Like, we know what comes
next. Like, you don't have to freaking lay it
on this thick. But yeah, I'm very unimpressed
with the character development here. It was just,
it was sloppily put together. Yeah, it was. What
are you thinking? I'm sitting at 65, dude. Like
I, I, you know, I know I said that I was really
trying not to get this movie into the sixties,
but the way that they just butchered how to tell
the story of these two brothers and they're falling
out just with that one inclusion, that one inclusion
of a female love interest or just, just a love
interest. That was just so dumb. Like, so the
character development, I think I'm sitting at
a 68. Yeah, I get it. I absolutely get it. All
right. Moving on over to effects. I feel that.
No, they're definitely better than the Lion King
because. i feel like it's definitely not great
but they definitely give a lot more emotion um
face wise oh yeah dude i think this corrected
our issues with the lion king yeah like the the
i appreciated that the animals actually showed
emotion this time around like thank you for actually
listening to people about that yeah kudos to
you disney like and it didn't take much It just
took some minor adjustments and you could tell
like people like you could tell like when Mufasa
and like Taka were talking, it was like you could
see almost like a smile on Taka's face. I'm like,
all right. Like it didn't take much. No, it didn't.
It still looked natural. It didn't look like
they were, you know, animated characters. It
still felt like they were real life animals.
Like, yeah, like you said, it didn't take much.
yeah gosh it yeah but i mean visually though
it looked good um i'm trying to think like it
it definitely feel like i don't know what it
is dude but cgi lately it just feels rubbery
like it all like it especially like full cgi
scenes like it looks rubbery yeah that's fair
and like that's something like i have to dock
for i'm not gonna dock it a whole ton like i
might still be like i'm really close to a 90
like i'm at like 89 but i i can't i can't justify
going higher than that yeah yeah you know what
i think i'm gonna match on that one yeah 89 yeah
because i'm same with you uh i it's hard to justify
bumping it up to the 90s because i agree with
you it it there were some parts that definitely
it it felt rubbery with a certain scenes and
characters. I especially felt towards the beginning
when Rafiki is first about to tell, I'm going
to remember her name eventually. What was Simba's
daughter's name? Kiara. Kiara. Thank you. I don't
know why it's so hard for me to remember that
name when, when he's getting ready to tell her
the story of Mufasa. And Timon and Pumbaa jump
in. They kind of seemed a little off. They were.
I couldn't put my finger on it, but something
was odd about them. Okay. All right. I'm glad
I wasn't the only one. But, yeah, that was like
the biggest thing that I can think of that stood
out. So, yeah, that one especially, I can't justify
bumping the score up into the 90s. Fair. Totally
fair. All right. Moving on over to music. So
I'm going to be honest. I thought that after
I watched this movie, like, oh yeah, I'm going
to totally download the whole soundtrack. Cause
like, I think I, I liked it enough to do that.
No, literally I only downloaded the, I always
wanted a brother song. And that is literally
the only song that I've listened to a couple
of times from the soundtrack. I hated that song.
I love that. This soundtrack is the worst. Damn.
Dude, straight up, I'm trying to be as unbiased
as I can. Yeah. It's ass. Oh, shit. I never thought
I'd hear you say that about a Lin -Manuel Miranda
written soundtrack. Listen, that's my problem
with it. It sounds like Lin -Manuel Miranda wrote
it. And you don't love that? No, every single
song has the same tone. every song had the same
tone to it and i'm like i'm just waiting for
the freaking like many not rap yeah moment and
every single song had one of those moments and
i'm like god i hate that shit dude like this
this is my issue with his um within the heights
yeah like every song sounded the same except
for like two yeah and like there's some where
like yes the culture definitely calls for that
like how the songs in encanto all kind of sound
the same or kind of have like similar vibes about
them they fit because of that like that culture
but it's just this this little rappy thing that
he likes to do or this little rappy not rappy
thing that he likes to do it feels like he writes
these songs for himself so would you feel the
same way about the moana soundtrack Yes, exactly
the same about Moana. Okay. Moana 2. He didn't
write Moana 2. He only wrote Moana. He did all
the songs in Moana? Mm -hmm. There's a reason
why Shiny is in that soundtrack. Okay, yeah,
Shiny is very much up his alley. Yeah, I hate
that song. That is literally the only song that
I hate on the Moana soundtrack. I straight up
despise that song. Yeah. Yeah. He, so yeah. Well,
I think it was because it was, you know, decided
already as he was like closing the deal to write
the songs for this movie. But yeah, that's the
reason why the songs for Moana too, weren't written
by Lin -Manuel Miranda is because he was already
writing the songs for Mufasa. Dumb. I'm not going
to argue and say that they are like, just. god
awful songs like they yeah i personally do not
care for them in any way shape or form like the
worst bit dude every time it looked like a song
was about to start i'm just like god you just
like kill me i never like i don't think any of
them are like horrible and like like when i heard
them in the movie i'm like okay that's okay that's
decent but like you said i didn't end up downloading
any of the other songs besides i always wanted
a brother that is literally the only song that
i downloaded on spotify from this movie that
is my least favorite song that is freaking hilarious
that that is just hilarious that we're just so
completely opposite with that song yeah i mean
still regardless i think there is a decent amount
of effort that was put into these songs Yeah.
They fit the tone as much as I despised it. I
feel like I can comfortably give this soundtrack
a seven. Dude, that's what I was thinking. Are
you really? Yeah, I thought you'd be at like
a five or a six. Personally, I'd be at a five.
okay personally i'd be at a five but i feel like
the songs were decent enough and obviously there's
something like there's a there's earworm that
comes with that damn uh brother song yeah like
because even iris was singing it afterwards i'm
just like stop it but yeah she uh she loved that
song oh that's fantastic i feel i might have
been able to be at an eight if the other songs
were memorable enough that i would have downloaded
the whole soundtrack after but the fact that
i always wanted a brother is the only song that
i downloaded i think i can only i can only justify
a seven yeah so yeah anyway moving on uh next
we got character design which this is a high
point for me yes no i absolutely agree um Because,
yeah, I feel, especially in Taka's case, I feel
Mufasa, the way that he's designed in the original
animated movie, it was quite easy to transition
him into his live -action look. Throughout this
movie and the live -action Lion King, he looked
great. I feel Scars was a little... little different
was a little harder for the colors that he was
in the original lion king and so especially with
how realistic they were shooting for yeah and
so i feel like the color dynamic that they went
with um for how he goes from how he looks in
this one to how he looks in the lion king i feel
that alone actually tells a story um and i personally
love that and so Yeah, I agree with you. The
designs for these characters are definitely a
high point for this movie. Yeah. I wouldn't quite
put this at a 10, though. I'd even be hesitant
with a nine. Like, just because silhouette wise.
Fair. Yeah. Like, it's just it's not. doesn't
have a strong enough silhouette on its own for
us to for me personally to be like oh yeah this
is iconic but i think that they made enough improvements
off of the first to justify like keeping it at
the same level or because i don't even know what
i was at with the first lion king yeah i don't
know either yeah let me see but not definitely
grew. Yeah. The lion King costumes. We were at
a nine or so character design. We were at a nine,
which seems a bit high. A little bit, but I think
I said, yeah, I think an eight's good. No, I
agree. Definitely. Yeah. It's just like, I think
they made enough improvements. Like it was, it
was good. Like good improvements. All right,
last up, we got personal score. Oh, I'm so interested
to see yours. But do you want to go first or
you want me to? I can go first. Okay. Straight
up, I'm never watching this movie again. Like,
I do not give a flying shit, dude. It was, I
did not care for it whatsoever. Oh, man. It did,
like, the first half had me. I was like, okay,
like, they're doing some decent stuff. And then
it's just. it got to that halfway point and I'm
like, or after Mufasa and Taka like ran to escape
and find the, like the, the pride lands or whatever.
Like it, then it just took a dive and I'm just
like, God, this is just basic bitch story. Like,
and it irritated me and the, like them turning
it into like a straight up musical also irritated
me a little bit, but it wasn't necessarily that
it was a musical. It's that, that I. didn't care
for the music and i thought it was ass like legit
like anytime my my daughter wants to watch the
lion movie i'm going to turn on the actual lion
king i'm not turning on this again and i i listen
i am so sick of these remakes dude like do you
did you see that picture i sent you where it
was like after the complete and utter bomb that
was snow white like that they're yeah putting
those on the back for now yeah yeah and that
freaking comment that was just like i think we
all owe rachel's apology uh i'm pretty sure i
reacted to that i think so i thought i left reacted
yeah i haven't i haven't checked my messages
but yeah um the the freaking but what was i feel
even better after that came out freaking a video
leaked of uh jojo siwa trying out for live i
watched that too oh my god oh my goodness that
made me want to peel my skin off oh man i'm like
you cannot be serious uh another comment that
i just thought was hilarious was they're just
like well how could you be saying that when um
they're still coming out with lilo and stitch
why aren't they pausing now with that why aren't
they um not come why aren't they canceling that
and it's just like he's done yeah exactly yeah
like everything's done it's already being marketed
like do you really think that they're gonna be
oh nope psych we're not we're not releasing lilo
and stitch anymore yeah like come on oh my hell
anyway um i'm sitting at a 67 with my personal
score you know what that's fair yeah like that
is honestly as high as i could possibly go with
this i could be talk lower but i'm trying to
be somewhat nice oh man yeah that's you know
what that's fair um i think uh i think personal
i'll be at i'll be at a 73 um like i i definitely
liked it a little more than caleb A little bit
more. But I definitely agree with all of his
complaints. It's such an unnecessary prequel.
It's also not a really good prequel. The way
that we come to this conclusion of why these
characters are the way that they are, like we've
said throughout this episode, me and him could
have written a way better storyline for Mufasa
and Taka and how they have their falling out.
um yeah just as as far as prequels go this is
personally i don't think it's the worst but it's
definitely not one of the best um so yeah 73
fair all right well with that going through these
categories real quick starting off with story
we ended up averaging out to a 71 writing is
not our lowest but it's it took a little bit
of a dive sitting at a 69 Acting got a bit of
a bump, sitting at an 81. The character development
is our lowest category, sitting at a 66 .5. The
effects had a decent bump, sitting at an 89,
making it the highest category. Music is sitting
at a 7 out of 10. The costumes are sitting at
an 8, or the character design is sitting at an
8 out of 10. And then our personal score ended
up averaging out to a 70. So with that, the final
all -bros letter grade for Mufasa, the Lion King,
has come out to a C+. All right, I'll take it.
I'll take it, too. I like it. It is going to
be real interesting where this one's sitting.
Oh, it barely cracked C+. Oh, damn. So our cutoff
for C++ is 76%. This is sitting at 76 .43%. Damn.
Yeah. Wow. So, yeah. So this puts it... Let's
go above first. So it's above Transformers Rise
of the Beasts. Okay. Fair. Yeah, I can agree
with that. Yeah, then getting into the C category,
it's sitting above My Spy. Yeah, okay. It's above
the Garfield movie. Yeah, definitely. It's above
Orion in the Dark. Yeah, I can agree with that.
It's above The Addams Family. Yeah. And it is
above The Rise of Skywalker. You're struggling
with that one hard. Very. people know my feelings
about the rise of skywalker so yeah uh all right
go in the opposite direction it is sitting below
pause of fury the legend of hank i don't know
how to feel about that one i would re -watch
positive fury before i re -watch mufasa i think
i would watch mufasa before i watched that other
movie It is below Cocaine Bear. Yeah, okay. It
is below The Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard. Alright.
It is below Disenchanted. Yeah, okay. That's
fair. And it's below The Stranger's Prey at Night.
Yeah, that's fair. Okay. Most probably, I can
agree with both lists. Yeah. I want to see where
it ranks compared to the Lion King. Oh, shit.
So the Lion King, we gave a B. Damn. Yeah. 85
.1%. Wow. And then this one's sitting at 76 .43%.
So it's like significantly below. Dude, what
the hell is wrong with us? Well, I mean, you
got to think, too. We did give it a higher. like
music score i think we gave it a 10 that for
music because yeah or i think we did uh no we
did not we gave it a six really well it wasn't
it wasn't a musical oh yeah that's true yeah
we gave the effects 100 story and writing were
average or like we're 85 just because it was
just retelling uh character development was really
low music was six character design was nine and
our personal score was 85 okay this is a little
high but i mean yeah i don't totally disagree
with that yeah fair enough all right yeah i'll
take it yeah all right well um unless you got
anything else you want to say about your favorite
prequel oh man this isn't even crack like top
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