Dude, totally unrelated to anything that's about
to happen right now. Ayo. Was the intro for last
episode as funny as I thought it was? Okay, I
didn't... At first, I was like, wait, what is
happening? What did I... I was like, did I come
in at the wrong part? And then I was like, oh,
wait, no, this is Deadpool and Wolverine. Fuck!
yes it was I enjoyed it cool I showed my wife
I was like hey I'm thinking about doing this
and then I played it for her and she's like that's
so stupid and I'm like I'm doing it like hey
man why don't you do what you want to do on your
podcast and I'll do what I want to do on mine
Yeah, I thought she was going to talk me out
of it, but she didn't end up happening. So did
you upload the like the actual video like we're
doing right here for last week on YouTube? Like,
did you put the actual clip or did you just play
it? I just played it. OK, OK. I didn't want to
get in trouble for copyright shit. Oh, my God.
Just tell him to relax. Ryan Reynolds. Yeah,
dude, they they freaking. harp on that shit hard
so i was like just the audio like it's not a
super long clip like like listen i mean i'm sure
it's way different on youtube in fact i know
it is but on instagram i posted a uh into the
spider verse edit like some edit that had miles
doing whatever and it got taken down like instantly
and it's like do you want to appeal this and
uh i immediately said yes and i was like Hey,
can you guys relax? I just like your thing and
I want to put it out there. I'm literally making
nothing from this. And then like within like
an hour or two, they were like, all right, fine.
And they like released it to be, it was just
on my story. It wasn't even like a post. I was
like, all right, that's, I mean, I get it. Be
litigious, but damn son, you see, I got like
10 followers. What are we doing? Is it a business
page? Yes, actually. Yeah, they'll freaking harp
on it hard if it's a business page. Personal
pages, they don't give a shit. I use it as a
personal page now, so that's probably why. Yeah.
Anyway, what's up, bros? We're back, baby! Is
all of that going to be in the thing? Yeah, all
of it. I'm Caleb. I'm Jonathan. And I'm a little
baby. We are a few bros on a mission to give
you guys the most detailed movie reviews out
there with as little bias as possible. Welcome
to the All Bros. This week on the podcast, we
are probably just going to be getting straight
into the breakdown. I didn't watch much this
week. I've just been watching the shows and stuff.
Same. All comfort shows. Literally the same as
last week. listen watch severance uh i we just
finished season one amazing watch uh what is
that one common side effects is that the the
how is that one i'm starting that one next i'm
like five episodes in it's really good uh and
it's i i will say this i didn't realize until
i started watching that show i miss the like
20 minute bite -sized episodes of like something
that's actually good you know what i mean because
i like severance a lot but every once in a while
when i see a 59 minute episode i'm like all right
i have to get all distractions away from me for
one whole hour i don't know if i can do that
here we go and then a kid starts talking uh but
that's what's great it's like 20 22 minutes something
like that the common side effects and uh it's
great i can't believe I can't believe that show
is as good as it is. Oh, I'm so pumped. I've
been watching Righteous Gemstones on Max. I heard
that is amazing. It's hilarious. Is that the
one where Goggins plays Baby Billy or whatever?
Baby Billy. Shut up, nerd. Go outside. it is
the funniest but gosh you you know what gets
me the so they have flashback episodes to like
which it kind of hurts hurts my heart a little
bit because they're going back to like the 90s
And so it's like all the stuff that I liked as
a kid. I'm like, oh, no, because it's like it's
all the like the adult characters. It's like
back back then. I'm like, shit. Like, am I one
of them? Listen, I I got to see my own black
mirror, I guess, because I watched what was a
Y2K that Rachel Ziegler joint. Have you guys
heard of this Y2K? I have. By the way, for everyone
listening, she was barely in it. They put her
face on the front because she was maybe the most
famous, but she was barely a thing in that movie.
Snow White's already killing her career. Dude,
that girl, I mean, just stop talking. You would
be fine if you just stopped your mouth from going.
that movie was Y2K was in fact bad, but it was
one of those bad in a good way. Bad movies. Uh,
yeah, I would, I would actually watch that movie
again. It was terrible, but it was good. Yeah,
it all happened. By the way, it all happened
in 1999, like going into Y2K. And I vividly remember
that because I I mean, there's I have a long
story associated with that. But I was I was actually.
in such deep shit at that time that I was praying
that when 2000 hit that just everything would
start. I wish that movie would happen is what
really is happening. I wish that movie had happened
because I was like, I'm never going to make it
through this man. And I clearly did. But yeah.
Damn. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the vibe that I got
with Righteous Gemstones. It's super funny. They're
just the most over -the -top mega church pastors
or preachers, whatever you want to call them.
They're hilarious. But they have these flashback
episodes, and the kids... Actually, just the
kid that they chose to play young Danny McBride
could not... be more perfect dude he matches
the cadence of danny mcbride to perfection i
wonder if he's related because i looked it up
because that's how that's how what i thought
too i was like dude they have to be and they're
not and i'm like that is crazy like that is the
craziest shit but the shit that they get him
to do is totally like, you could see Danny McBride
doing it. And then like, it's just that the fact
that they got this little kid to do it, he kind
of has like the look, he matches the voice and
everything, like everything matches. Like you
would think that they just shrunk down Danny
McBride. That's hilarious. Wow. That's awesome.
Like. on this newest season, like they did, they
did a flashback and they have like this, the,
the young Danny McBride come out and like fricking
some tidy whiteys and nothing else. And his sister
is just like, Oh God, go put on some pants, man.
And he's just like, you can't tell me how to
live. You bitch. Then he like, then he like,
kind of like, strikes a pose and then walks off
and i'm like god damn like that is that is that's
perfect okay by the way speaking of young people
or young versions of people doing a good job
i on tiktok all the time now i don't know what
it is uh it keeps showing me clips from young
sheldon why did no one tell me that that show
was like just a constant tear jerking like everything
was like oh my god it was his dad and he was
right there and he wasn't and then and then it
was the other guy and he was like that young
sheldon by the way that kid i talked so much
about that show. Cause I just thought it was
going to be dumb. And, uh, that kid is spot on.
He is in fact, uh, Sheldon from, from when he
was a little, little kid. Uh, and yeah, I don't
know. I don't even know. I did. That just made
me think of it. Like that's, I actually have
to might really watch that show now. I personally
think young Sheldon is better than the big bang
theory. I mean, I really like the guy that plays
his dad a lot. What's really funny for the last
two seasons, if you really listen to Jim Parsons'
voiceover, you can tell that he's trying to deepen
his voice a little bit to match Ian Arbitage's
voice a little more just because he hit puberty
so hard. That's hilarious. Yeah, that kid. By
the way, it seemed like all of them did. Like
I sometimes all the clips that I would see where
I'm clearly from later seasons. And then one
time I saw one from like what had to have been
the first season. I was like, who are these Muppet
baby children? They were just all super tiny.
I was like, OK, I guess they really were kids.
Yeah, dude, they did a lot of fun stuff with
that show. Like the. Like the mom and young Sheldon
is the daughter of Sheldon's mom and big bang
theory. What? Hold on. Wait, say that again.
My brain just snapped. Okay. So, you know, the
lady that plays Sheldon's mom and big bang theory.
Yes. So her daughter plays her like that same
character in young Sheldon. so it is wow that's
crazy yeah that's awesome and so because everyone
like it talked like oh my gosh like this is like
almost perfect casting like this like she's got
everything right about her and i'm like yeah
it's her daughter she looks right because she
is right yeah and i've i've seen so much like
behind the scenes stuff with young sheldon so
the the scene or the scene where they're doing
George Sr.'s funeral, the guy who played George
Sr. is in the crowd. He's in the audience dressed
as a woman. That's hilarious. That is hilarious.
He said that it was like a suit. He said he could
tell that the vibes in the whole room were off.
that's just because everyone was sad and so he's
like i wanted to lighten it up a little bit so
i came in dressed as a as a woman and sat in
the back and so that was kind of like everyone
was kind of like laughing to have a good time
about that like and then i've been watching the
spin -off the georgian mandy uh how is that it's
not bad it's It's interesting seeing some of
these characters come back in sitcom format,
but I think it works. They have some genuinely
funny shit in it. Yeah, it's interesting. It's
weird that it's... I wonder if any other show
has had this kind of weird spinoff thing, because...
young sheldon was like a multi -camera or something
right like it was it was like an actual show
it wasn't a sitcom was it no it was yeah it was
like yeah it was like uh i don't even know how
to explain it because yeah like big bang theory
didn't have a laugh track yeah i was gonna say
i i looked at it like when i was watching the
clips of it it seemed more like uh like a modern
like wonder years or something uh but yeah and
it's weird it's crazy that they're going back
to like sitcom again with that other the spinoff
of the spinoff yeah so it is yeah so yeah it
i don't know if which one's considered multicam
and which one's considered like single cam yeah
i think i said it wrong i think it's i think
you're right i think young sheldon is single
i don't know i don't know anything yeah they
are listening way in no i The only other show
that I know has done that has been that one on
Netflix. The Kevin can go F himself where they
like switch. Yeah. Only when a certain characters
in the room. Yeah, that's awesome. I never saw
the show, but I've seen the, I've seen clips
of that and that looks great. I like that girl.
She was in a Schitt's Creek. Yeah. I, I, I'm
actually in the middle of season two. with that
one and it it's pretty good i mean listen i i'm
late to the game but i'm telling you like if
you guys have not if you guys have apple tv and
have not watched severance yet please please
watch that show it's so good you definitely need
to like i will say for you caleb you need to
like dedicate time like you this is not one that
you can just be like let me just dip in and out
of it like when you start an episode you need
to like be zoned in on it and you got to just
watch it all the way through. Uh, but it's, it's
very good. It's, and it's directed by Ben Stiller.
Like who knew that guy was such a great director.
Like it looks amazing. Like it's, uh, it's the
story is, I thought I was convinced it was based
on a book and there is a book called severance,
but it's not, uh, that's not the story that they're
doing. Um, so it's all like, I love the fact
that it's like all like original, like as an
original concept. So I don't know. Guys, watch
Apple stuff, you know, give them some money.
I think people are still mad at Apple for taking
away the peanuts specials and not making, not
having them on a public TV anymore. Yeah. Apple
is kind of asked for that. Dude, Apple's released
some good shit, though. I've always wanted to
check out Ted Lasso. Oh, dude, we're on like
season two or three. I think I literally have
cried on every single episode, like every episode,
if not just a tear coming down like a full on
like I got to be right back. Like it's it's very
good. So the house that so when. We traveled
to Utah when my dad passed. We were staying at
a friend's house, my wife's friend, like family
friend. We were staying at their house in their
basement because they were on a trip or whatever.
And they logged us on to their Apple TV. And
so in the mornings, like before we left to...
go to my parents i would i would wake up like
really really early because like we're two hours
yeah we're two hours ahead and so i'd i'd wake
up super early and then i'm like you know what
and so i'd go and i'd watch a few episodes of
ted lasso so good dude so freaking good that's
like a perfect like heartfelt that didn't make
me feel too much of my own feels maybe i felt
feels for like the characters and stuff but just
kind of like distracted me enough it was like
so good so good yeah i i yeah i don't know what
else apple had like those are literally the only
two things i know that apple's done but those
two severance and ted lasso worth the price of
admission freaking hell yeah there's another
one i've been meaning to see it's one with uh
It's with Anthony Mackie. He plays like a, like
a business man who like buys a talking about.
Yeah. He buys a, like condos or he buys like
an apartment building or whatever. And he's,
he's trying to manage it. But then Nicholas Holt
comes in to work for him. And so, but he has
like an, I, a photographic memory or some shit.
And so he's like, oh, we could use that to our
advantage. So they basically use that to trick
people into investing in the apartment building
based on like tricking them into thinking Nicholas
Holtz, the one that's running it when it's really
Anthony Mackie. What? Oh, sorry. I was looking.
I was like, wait, because the first thing I saw
was the studio. And I was like, it says he's
only in one episode, but that's that Seth Rogen
deal. Is it the banker? Yeah, the banker. There
it is. Yeah, I think Samuel L. Jackson's in that
too, isn't he? Yep, he is. Yeah. Oh, so is Neil
Long. Yeah, but I've heard that one's really
good too. Like Apple's got some good exclusive
shit. A -Train is in that show. Wait, I wonder
if my, I think Beth might be watching this show.
Anyway, sorry. Is it a show? It's a movie. Is
it? Okay. I'm still on the studio. Sorry. Is
that the one where he... Okay. We just said it.
Sorry. I'm with you guys. I'm back. Media res.
We're here. I've heard everything you said and
I'm with it. Sorry. I was just so stoked about
this brave new world we're about to endeavor
into. Speaking of, but before we get sidetracked
once again, should we get into that? Let's do
it. Hell yeah. And we are the Failing Hollywood
Podcast. Yeah, we're a show that is real film
crew with real cast that talks about real set
stuff. Like what it's like to work 70 hours in
one week, overnights only. And what it's like
to bring coffee to actors. And what it's like
to sit in a bathtub with a toaster nearby and
be like, maybe I'll just end it all. What it's
like to make love on a fake New York set when
you're sitting in L .A. but wishing you were
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our breakdown system, we have split movies into
eight different categories that we individually
score to come to a final All Bros and Untrained
Eye letter grade. The eight categories that we
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and then we give our own personal score at the
very end. All of this gets magically added up
and spit through our algorithm and gives us a
letter grade to compare this movie to others
of a similar grade. So, without further ado...
Rose is going to spoil the entire movie for us
in our favorite segment that we like to call
Reading with Rose. Yeah, so if you have not seen
Captain America Brave New World yet. You're dumb.
Yeah, it's been a hot minute. Yeah. Honestly,
I think we're closer to the release of Thunderbolts
than we are the release of Captain America 4.
If you haven't seen Captain America Brave New
World, you saw all the coolest parts in the trailer.
And I gotta add, if you didn't watch Falcon and
the Winter Soldier, I'm sure that you were confused
as hell for at least a majority of the movie.
My nephews hadn't seen it, hadn't seen the show,
so there was a couple of things that I had to
be like, yeah, it's fine. They know each other.
Don't even trip. So did you watch Falcon and
Winter Soldier? Me? Yes. But you didn't? No,
I did. Oh, you did too? Yeah. oh all right i
would say my nephew didn't like so they they
saw it and they were like or actually i don't
know who cares the it wasn't hindering to watch
the movie but i also don't know if he cares either
way he went with his girlfriend so i'm sure he
was like whatever they're flying around who cares
I saw with my buddy Ryan, and he said, because
he didn't see Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
he said he was able to follow along pretty well,
but I'm sure if he would have watched Falcon
and the Winter Soldier, it would have made it
more enjoyable to understand where certain characters
came from, because especially the new Falcon,
Joaquin, and what's that one guy's name? America.
Oh, Isaiah. Yeah, like these two, you have no
idea who the hell they are and they're here.
You're just like, where the hell did these two
come from? Listen, what's his face? Danny Ramirez,
Joaquin Torres. He clearly did not leave a lasting
mark in my brain because they were showing him
this guy. I'm like... When they started the movie,
I was like, oh, I bet he's talking a lot. I bet
he's going to be part of the movie, I bet. He's
talking way too much for a background character.
Oh, my God. Dude, we may have very different
thoughts about this movie. It's just based off
of what you guys are talking about now. So I
went to go see this with my wife on our anniversary.
And she hadn't seen Falcon and the Winter Soldier,
other than some clips and stuff that I showed
her. But none of those clips really... It was
just more action sequences than anything, and
Falcon's final suit and whatnot. So she didn't
really know any of the other characters and whatnot,
or any of the story. The only thing... That she
was confused by. And we're getting into spoiler
territory. So. Turn it off now. If you haven't.
Yeah. The only thing that she was confused by.
Is the talk with Bucky. When. When he had said
that he. Should have taken the. Super soldier
serum. She says that was the only part. That
was confusing to me. Because I was thinking like
wait. when did he have a chance to do that? I
mean, it would, by the way, I kind of forgot
about that too. But that whole, that whole scene
was confusing anyway. You know what? I'm sorry.
We did not read with Rose yet. Let me, let me
stop. Rose, would you like to read or. yeah before
we get into more of i know i feel like we're
just going into it uh because i felt like the
whole reading deep breath to do like a diatribe
and i'm like all right i need to stop all right
Five months after Thaddeus Ross is elected president
of the United States, he sends Sam Wilson and
Joaquin Torres, the new Captain America and Falcon,
respectively, to Oaxaca, Mexico, to stop the
illegal sale of classified items stolen by Sidewinder
and his mercenary group, Serpent. Wilson and
Torres recover the items, but Sidewinder escapes.
Torres is excited to be taking on Wilson's former
mantle of Falcon, but Wilson is hesitant to involve
Torres in dangerous missions due to the pair
not having superpowers like former Captain America
Steve Rogers. After the mission, Wilson and Torres
train with Isaiah Bradley, a super soldier who
was imprisoned and experimented on by the U .S.
government. Ross invites Wilson and Torres to
a summit with world leaders at the White House,
and Wilson accepts on the condition that Bradley
is also invited. Ross asks Wilson to help him
reform the Avengers. During the summit, Ross
explains that a new metal, adamantium, has been
discovered on Celestial Island, which was formed
when the Celestial tiamut emerged in the indian
ocean the recovered items were the first refined
samples of the metal and were stolen from a japanese
mining operation to avoid an arms race ross proposes
a treaty to govern adamantium's mining and distribution
as he is talking the song mr blue plays and causes
several men including bradley to begin shooting
at ross and other dignitaries Apprehended by
Ross's head of security, former Black Widow Ruth
Bat -Ruth Bat -Syrupth -Syrupth? We're just going
to say Syrupth. I don't know how to say that
last name. The men regain their senses and deny
any knowledge of the attack. While investigating,
Wilson is ambushed by Sidewinder and captures
him. Torres tracks a call on Sidewinder's phone
to a hidden black site in West Virginia called
Camp Echo One. Ross tries to salvage the treaty,
but the Japanese government blames him for the
theft of their adamantium and the subsequent
White House attack. Ross realizes that the mastermind
behind these events is Dr. Samuel Stearns, who
gained advanced intelligence after being exposed
to the blood of Bruce Banner slash Hulk during
the Abominations rampage through Harlem. Ross
imprisoned Stearns at Camp Echo One, publicly
blamed him for the Abominations' actions, and
promised to release him if Stearns helped advance
him to the presidency. Residency Wilson and Torres
find Stearns and learn how he uses technology
and the song mr. Blue to control minds he escapes
while they are fighting mind controlled soldiers
Ross sends bats Serp sir apps. I don't know how
to say that goddamn goddamn name Seraph to secure
Camp Echo One, where she finds and helps Wilson
and Torres. The trio meet with Wilson's military
friend, Dennis Dunphy, who has Sidewinder in
custody. Wilson learns enough from Sidewinder
to deduce Stern's plans to destroy Ross's reputation.
Wilson, Torres, and Bat Seraph go to the Celestial
Island, where Ross and Azaki The Prime Minister
of Japan are racing to claim ownership of Adamantium.
Stearns takes control of the minds of two American
pilots and makes them attack the Japanese fleet.
Wilson and Torres intercept the planes and convince
the Japanese to stand down, but Torres is critically
injured in the fight. Ross tells Wilson that
he is dying of heart failure and had Stearns
develop pills that had prolonged his life. Ross
refused to release Stearns for fear that he would
no longer make the pills, leading to Stearns'
anger and plan. for revenge. Wilson is consoled
by his friend Bucky Barnes. Stearns kills Dunphy,
who learned that the pills have been adding gamma
radiation to Ross' body and surrenders himself
to Wilson. Stearns' arrest and connection to
Ross are publicly revealed while the latter is
at a press conference. Ross loses control of
his emotions and transforms into a Red Hulk,
destroying part of the White House. Wilson injures
Ross enough that he can be reasoned with and
reminds Ross of visits to Washington, D .C.'s
cherry blossom trees with his estranged daughter,
Betty. Ross reverts to normal. After the incident,
Bradley is exonerated, Wilson invites a recovering
Torres to join the Avengers, and the treaty is
ratified. Ross resigns and has himself incarcerated
at the raft where Wilson and Betty visit him.
In a post -credit scene, an imprisoned Stearns
warns Wilson of a coming attack from other worlds.
So how's it going? No, I will say this. I was,
I was trying to like refresh myself. So I watched
one of those, one of those like Easter eggs.
What you might've missed videos. That was like
a fricking hour long. I just had it like going
in the background, but one of the things they
said that I didn't notice at the time, but I
was like, huh? It's like, how do they know to
call it celestial Island? Why would they call
that a Celestial? Unless one of the Eternals
came and was like, yo, what's up? It's a Celestial.
What are the odds that they would have picked
Celestial? That's a really good point. Because
didn't they call it by name too? i think so i
mean they i mean they literally said it was like
the celestial summit for celestial island so
it's like all right well there you go i'm trying
to think of how oh like obviously like there's
like i'm trying to think back to the eternals
and like who was left behind well what uh was
kumail's character what was his name uh He was
the entertainer. He was the actor. What the hell
was his name? Boy, we are some Marvel guys, huh?
I know. The Eternals are such vague characters,
though. The only one that's coming to mind is
Barry Keegan's character, Druig. That's the only
one I can remember right now. I remember Gilgamesh,
but that wasn't... We don't speak on his character.
We don't speak Keegan's name or whatever his
name is after Saltburn. I can't. Fair enough.
I mentioned Saltburn the other day, just jokingly,
passingly in front of my wife. And she was like,
what is the matter with you? Why would you make
me think of that movie ever again? And I was
like, I mean, I had to. So. All right. So Kumail
Nanjiani was Kingo. Kingo. Yeah, he I mean, he.
If there was ever going to be like an emissary
of the Eternals, I would imagine it would be
him. So I don't know. Maybe it was him. That's
what I was thinking, too. Because so who because
the what was his face? The the celestial that
was in charge of them. Oh, was like super peeved
and took. He took Cersei for sure. icarus got
died right yeah yeah druig i think he was still
alive he was on the ship though wasn't he yeah
it was didn't druig uh what's the what's the
speedster makari makari and then fastos didn't
they go off together or wait no it was fastos
i no not fastos because fastos hit or thena and
gilgamesh stayed with fastos oh yeah i think
wait gilgamesh died gilgamesh oh okay so if gilgamesh
died then thena stayed with fastos and kingo
i believe maybe or what happened with sprite
she went off to just live as a regular kid okay
And then we had like all these other randos.
So Kingo, it very well could be that Kingo is
the one that let it leak that they're celestials,
kind of let the human race know what's up. Yeah.
Either that or Kit Harington's character could
have gone out because he kind of got the gist
of the story. Kit Harington, is this the one
that at the end of whatever movie he was? isn't
he the one whose character is never going to
come to fruition? Yeah. So he's the black night,
right. Or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. He,
and he got a fricking phone call from a Herschel,
Ali's blade who doesn't exist anymore. Yeah.
Gosh, such bullshit, dude. I mean, the Marvel
is, they really, I mean, what is it? The, the
Russos have said, this is, I don't know if they
directly said it, but I think, what is it, Doomsday
and Secret Wars is going to be kind of like a
soft reset for the MCU. They are really not doing
a great job up until now. Deadpool and Wolverine
was great. This movie, I watched it. The Thunderbolts
looks really good, but... I just, I don't know,
man. I don't know anymore because I was super
stoked for this movie. And I, yeah, it was, this
was a strange movie. This was a movie that seemed
like it was like, hey, you guys remember, you
guys remember that other Captain America? He
was like, what was it? What was it called? The
Winter something? I don't know. Anyway, we're
going to try and do something like that. And
it was not that. it was not that's exactly what
caleb said he's just like it was trying too hard
to be the winter soldier and it just it it wasn't
i mean i know this thing got uh you know rewrites
and reshoots to hell uh so who knows what the
actual original story was going to be and maybe
it was going to be better but um I don't know,
man, this movie I wanted to I hated that they
immediately made Isaiah the bad guy, not the
bad guy, but like, you know, as soon as he he
got flashed and he started attacking the president,
I was like I in the theater out loud. I was like,
no, I don't do this to him. He just got back
like you can't do this to this guy. And they
were like, we can and we did. check it out he's
going to be in jail for this whole movie dude
i was so freaking heartbroken for him that's
like oh man like i was i was already super sad
about like his character because i remembered
him like fairly well from falcon and the winter
soldier so when he's just like i can't go back
there sam like don't make him Please tell me
you have a secret flying suit and just take him
away from all this. Yeah, that was I don't know.
I mean, it was it was disappointing to see it
happen. And I'm like, other than to display that.
you know, the phone flash and it can take over
you with the song. Like there was no reason to
do that. Like you could, you couldn't find anything
for him to do or just him be like, this is too
much. This shit's getting too hot. I got to go
back home and just let him go and chill out.
He had to go to jail. Like, come on, man. Well,
there's, I think there's a little bit of like
the justification for it. is if Isaiah wasn't
directly involved, I don't know if Sam would
have involved himself as hard as he did. Because
I think he would have tried to get involved,
and then I think Ross, if he knew that it was
just a few people on his team, I think he would
have been like, all right, whatever, we'll handle
this internally, don't worry about it. I think
that's what would have ended up happening. with
that. Like, I don't think Ross would have tried
to bring him in, but I think it's because Isaiah
is so closely attached to Sam and Sam kind of
knows like his backstory and everything. And
like, they have that, that connection that that's
why he was so personally involved and invested
in. There's gotta be getting him out. Listen,
everything you're saying is right. And I don't
want it to be right, but it is, but I just, I.
let him be an overwatch or something like something.
Just keep them like, I get it. You can't have
the old guy out there doing old guy stuff all
the time. Uh, they were going to sideline him
no matter what. And that's not what I'm upset
about. It's, it's making him the bad guy and
having to have his name cleared right away. I'm
like, there's no other way to do this. Huh? Couldn't
have like stolen his sister or something. I don't
know. put Bucky in danger, anything like just,
I don't know. I liked Isaiah in the show and
it was just like, it seemed like a too easy way
to just get this person from the show cameoed
in the movie and then just get him out of here.
I don't care how, just get him out of here. And
yeah, I was not, I did not enjoy that. Yeah.
I think it was always super convenient that he
was always kind of by himself instead of with
everybody else that was involved. It's like they
had like six people or like five or six people
that were all under investigation for this bullshit.
And all of them were in one room except for Isaiah.
Like, are you shitting me? Like, that's so dumb.
What did you guys think of Harrison Ford as the
president? I really liked him. I feel if anyone
had to take over the role, I think that he was
a really good choice. I think people give Harrison
Ford too much shit nowadays, like saying like,
oh, no, he he doesn't care. He's phoning it in
a lot for his his performances now. I disagree,
especially in this movie. I feel he wasn't. And
in the last Indiana Jones movie, I feel he wasn't
phoning it in. If he actually really cares about
the project, like he does give it his all still.
And I feel with this one, he definitely did.
I think he was the perfect one to kind of play
someone that's past their prime, just kind of
like rolling with the punches, but he still has
like that intensity about him. Like when he is
like, when he was starting to get like mad and
everything, like you bought it, like you'd understand
why people are like afraid of him. Yeah. Like
even without the red Hulk. I am old enough to
remember when he was yelling at people to get
off his plane as the president. And what was
it? Air Force One or whatever that movie was.
So, yeah, it was it was actually crazy to see
him. I mean, I'm sure he's played the president
in other movies since then. But like that was
like my first thought is I was like, get off
my plane. I almost wanted him to be like, get
off my ship. It wasn't me. It was the one -armed
man. What was I going to say about him? Yeah,
I liked him. I will say that the part of the
end was kind of weird where Liv Tyler showed
back up and was like, hey, what's up, Pop? They
really tried to make sure that you remember that
The Incredible Hulk was a movie. yeah and it's
like it's fine we got it hey if you really want
me to remember have ed norton show up and be
like hey it's me uh david banner i'm bruce's
long lost cousin uh dude i i will say though
what like the way that he was just kind of slowly
being poisoned into a hulk was pretty ingenious
yeah like i i loved that and and honestly i liked
a lot of stuff about the leader like his design
looked brother like i'm i'm with you i really
liked how they set him up in the way that they
told his story throughout the movie but freaking
when they do that reveal when he's talking to
sam like oh my god what the fuck is that dude
for real you know how pissed i was because all
the promotional shit he looked amazing yeah like
have you guys seen any of that stuff i think
you sent me a couple of things okay freaking
i hold on i'm gonna pull this up real quick much
better yeah uh yeah dj you gotta see this Yeah,
so this is the promotional shit. This is the
pop figure that is still out in circulation right
now. And this is all the promo art that they
have for the leader. He looks amazing. And they
freaking scrapped it for who knows what reason.
I mean, wasn't he? I feel like I saw a comparison
of him from the comic. And in the comic, I feel
like he's more like grotesque looking. So maybe
that's, I don't know. I thought in the comics
he, like, is a lot closer to this. So, yeah,
well, there's different, like, iterations of
him. Like, there's definitely, like, there's
versions of him that has, like, that smooth,
where it's a little bit more smooth and he looks
relatively normal, which I think that's the vibe
that they were going for in those promotional
images. But there are other versions where he
does have kind of, like, It's more veiny and
warped and whatnot. I genuinely think all they
needed to do was give him the big head. Give
him the big head. Make it all... You know what
I think it is? I feel like... The big head thing,
though, I feel like... I feel like MODOK kind
of ruined... uh big head cg characters from marvel
for a while because i mean i don't remember what
what you guys thought about modok in ant -man
but like i don't talk about modok in ant -man
because i wanted to destroy the character i wanted
to like that movie but like modok did look like
hot ass like just not good Dude, you guys want
to be reminded of how bad it looks. There you
go. Honestly, that was actually something that
I liked. I liked the fact that he looked grotesque
because I feel like if he was more of the big
head, smooth. Cause if you look at like the pictures
of him, he almost looks like regal looking, not
regal, but you know what I mean? Like he, he
looks like he's like put together a little bit
like this, that version looks like someone that
had been, you know, kept in an off grid on an
off grid government site, you know, basically
in the basement for, you know, all those years,
you would almost expect like some grotesque rat
looking thing. And I thought that was, you know,
Another way of showing how you could be corrupted
by that Hulk blood. It's not just all muscles
and jumping through the White House. Sometimes
you look like basically a mutant. Dude, this
is what I would have preferred them to do. I
know what you said about MODOK. The issue with
MODOK is they didn't go grotesque. Like they
didn't make him as grotesque as he needed to
be. And I think that they went, they over corrected
with the leader where they made him like overly
grotesque. I, but I agree with you. I liked like
his face and I liked the, like the veiny head
and everything. I would have just, I still just
wanted his head to be like. longer yeah and yeah
like large like give us that like give us like
the the concept art but then make it like all
veiny and like with the the bulges and whatnot
make give us that yeah and then the same shit
with the face where it's like kind of dis disfigured
like give us that like just give us the character
that we know that's like the mcu's biggest problem
that like you give us inklings of the character
that we know but you don't freaking go balls
to the wall we're past like if Deadpool and Wolverine
has proven anything we like comic accurate more
than anything okay now okay in fairness to that
wasn't Brave New World supposed to initially
come out like years ago like wasn't that weren't
weren't they done and then there was like yes
because yeah i think it was supposed to come
out before deadpool and wolverine but the whole
like reshoot thing happened title change strike
yeah it was also that too yeah because wasn't
it originally called like new world order or
something yeah and then they change yeah so and
i was just hearing something too today about
them talking about the uh The former widow that
was the president's right hand. And like in the
comics, she was a Israeli Mossad agent. And they
were like, that might not be the greatest thing
to have right now in this current climate. Listen,
making her a former black widow. Perfect. Yeah,
that was great. But like they were talking about
to like even when the with the introduction to
her, like you could see that scene had been like
chopped to death because clearly they were supposed
to be because they said I think the official
word was like, yeah, she was never going to be
a Mossad agent. And it's like, then why is this?
Why was the only thing that you said? Like she
was in Israel. She was an Israeli. End of scene.
Bye bye. We're going somewhere else now. Like,
I understand having like work within the MCU.
You guys have been around for 20 plus years.
Like freaking like work around the shit that
like that you've already created. Well, listen,
I think that as my. as my what i have named myself
today kang is greater than doom uh i think that
that might have actually been like jonathan majors
every all the trouble that he was in at the time
and them you know uh shuffling everything around
away from kang like i feel that was like their
because really that was like the mcus that was
like their first uh like actual like huge scandal
right like there was no really nothing scandalous
that happened with any of the other any of the
other actors other than maybe like terrence howard
but that's like i wouldn't call that major wasn't
he his he was just asking for more money yeah
and they didn't want to pay him so they recasted
don cheadle oh yeah i think the biggest one would
probably be edward norton and just because he
was such a bitch during the editing process Yeah.
I mean, it's whatever he's, I love Ed Norton.
You can't make me hate that guy, but that was,
yeah. But I say all that to say, like, I feel
like that was them shifting away from Kang and
not recasting him like, or just doing the wait
and see. And we'll just, just not talk about
it until everything is like settled and, and
go from there. Like, this that has been the i
mean i'm sure someone can double check the timeline
and i'm wrong but i feel like that was that since
then the mcu overall has been like we're gonna
try and play it as by the numbers and as safely
as we can instead of just kind of flying by the
seat of our pants like we used to and it's i
don't know it's not it's not equaling good product
dude oh I'm just going to say this. I think we're
entering the age of DC. We'll see. I mean, listen,
I love James Gunn and I have every bit of faith
in the Superman movie. It's got to be so good,
though. It's got to be. It can't just be good.
It's got to be so good. And if anyone can do
it, it's James Gunn. Everything I've seen about
it so far, I am genuinely. impressed yeah marvel
had like marvel needs to get their act together
Like, well, he literally he sharpened his steel
at Marvel and was like, let me go ahead and make
the greatest trilogy this this franchise has
ever seen. And you don't like me anymore. You
want to try and cancel me? Cool. I'm out. I'm
going to go make DC new again and bright shining.
We're going to get away from all the grit and
the grime and we're just going to stand in the
sunshine and. i mean it seems to be working pretty
good so far though it's working amazingly dude
like the shit that he's pulling off and the way
like i think it's not even necessarily like what
he's pulling off too it's the methodology behind
it too he's like we don't green light shit without
a script that's good and i'm like perfect And
he says, we have an order of operations of where
we want to go. We have an idea for the overarching
story, but we're not greenlighting nothing until
we have a script. Wait, you guys will know this.
I heard from an unreliable source that Batman
2 is not happening anymore. Is that real? Not
that I know of. Matt Reeves is just still working
on the script. Okay, good. I think that's one
of the other projects that's going to be separated
from James Gunn's stuff. That falls into the
same area as the Joker movies. Elseworlds? Oh
my god. Have I been on since Joker came out?
If I haven't, I just need to since we're talking
about comic books. That movie was so bad. No,
I wasn't. I don't think I have been because I
listened to your guys' episode about it. You
were just like, Rose, what the fuck are you talking
about? I seriously was in my truck like, what
are you, what movie did you watch? I watched
a completely different bad movie. And for anyone
who is like, oh, you just don't like singing,
that is not why the movie was bad. Not even a
little bit. It was the movie part of the movie.
It was what I watched with my eyes that was no
good. All the other parts were good. Getting
to the TV and going like, man, I can't wait to
watch Joker. After Joker was over and I was like,
I can't believe I just watched Joker. Those parts
were good. Yeah, that shit's all going to be
separated. I think James Gunn's just honoring
a contract with Matt Reeves. The Pattinson thing,
though, I did not expect to like that Batman
as much as I did. And if it all is ending with
this second Batman, there's not going to be anything
after that. It is a tragedy because that is...
That that will really be like the biggest loss
that we get from the old guard going to the new.
Because I mean, listen, I was I talked just as
much shit as anybody. I was like, this frickin
vampire is going to be Batman. Get out of my
face. And I was wrong. I eat my words. I'm sorry.
I know you're listening. Robbie Pattinson. I'm
the worst. I know it. I'm going to see Mickey
17. yeah it was so good it makes me it makes
my heart hurt that he's not gonna keep doing
it into infinity yeah anyway we watched a different
movie brave new world it was brave yeah well
no like yeah like just get like getting back
into it but yeah i think with as hot like just
saying like this is the the high hopes that i
have for james gunn superman i believe that that's
going to spark the dc era and i hope that this
kicks marvel in the ass hard enough for them
to get their act together because they've just
made mistake after mistake after mistake like
they've with a few gems in the middle like with
deadpool wolverine gem i'm hoping thunderbolts
and fantastic four are gems but yeah freaking
scrapping the whole king situation and like and
then going on moving on to dr doom not a horrible
idea okay like if you don't want to do king like
moving on to doom that'd be sick like especially
with the introduction of the fantastic four casting
robert downey jr as dr doom mistake yeah I really
was rooting for Cillian Murphy. I would have
loved to have seen him as Dr. Doom. Yeah. Dude,
have you seen the... I don't know if these are
real. Have you seen the images, supposedly, of
Robert Downey as Dr. Doom? I saw one, and I don't
believe it. uh, cause it looks like an aged version
of him. Is it concept art or was it actually
like a behind the scenes that I don't know? Cause
I saw, I think what I saw was like a concept
of him as like an aged out, like he had like
longer gray hair and like, uh, uh, I think he
had like a grayish beard or something and he
was in the Dr. Doom suit. Like it looked cool,
but it's like, ah, This seems like a... Yeah,
here. It was this. I think that is this. I very
much dislike this. Yeah, that looks dumb. That
seems very, though, like X -Men, like original
X -Men -esque suit. I can't believe that's real.
They're just like, oh, he was Iron Man, so we
have to imply that some way into the suit. Yeah,
like, that's my problem with it. I'm like, the
suit itself, like, okay, but it looks like it
has an arc reactor. It does. What is up with
that? Yeah. Honestly, I think the biggest problem
with Robert Downey Jr. being Doctor Doom is that
we know it's going to happen. Like, I get that
they had to say something, because they're like,
our Kang guy is gone, and we want to make people
not think about that, but... If they wanted to
do this, this should have been a reveal, not
a not what you're hanging the movie on. In my
mind, I I'm pissed off at the Russos and the
fact that they're coming back for for this movie
is slightly aggravating to me. Why? Because they
said they were done. They're like, we've told
our story. And then they backed up the freaking
two dump trucks of money. And they were like,
you know, I was inspired the other day and I
was just thinking of calling you guys. It's so
weird that you came here. It's so annoying. Like
they like, don't get me wrong. Their movies aren't
bad, but what they did, I like, I will never
forgive them for what they did to Hulk. And the
fact that Marvel has continued to run with it
when they had. The perfect out in She -Hulk.
Like, watch it. Okay, getting back into Brave
New World. It pissed me off how good Red Hulk
was. Oh, you mean at the end? Cause from the
trailer, I was like, Oh, we're going to get some,
we're going to get some white house getting crashed
immediately. And I was like, I swear to God,
I was like three quarters of the way through
the movie. And I was like, is red Hulk in this
movie? Like, what are we doing here? Like, is
this ever going to happen? and like i don't what
you were saying earlier about how you liked how
the slow burn of like getting him uh you know
amped up over the years with gamma radiation
like couldn't we have told that story at the
beginning because did we really need to ramp
through the whole entire movie to be like he's
still taking those pills i bet uh and then wait
until the end to have a seven minute fight that
i was literally that was why i thought we were
going to the movies is to see red hulk in there
just get crazy through the whole thing and nope
just sun's getting low or whatever version they
did in this one the jasmine poppies are getting
they're falling quick your daughter she'd be
so sad oh she would be sad let me turn back into
harrison ford again they're like this movie had
all the parts of something really great yeah
like that's the whole thing now it is it truly
is like this would have been so much better had
it been like like i'm thinking like this is what
i'm thinking this is just like top of my head
if it was like on the news there are rumors of
a hulk on the loose and then it's just but they
like, everyone knows it's not banner. Like, because
he's off world or whatever, like, Oh, it's not
him. But, and so it's just like, okay, like the,
what the hell is it? And then boom, we have a
red Hulk, like, like, like red Hulk comes out,
like explodes and everything. And then they're
like, all right, like we need to recruit someone,
like get someone on this. They get. Sam Wilson
to like kind of do his like do an investigation
try to find out who Red Hulk is but I think where
like Harrison Ford would have needed to be involved
in all of it but then he would have been mind
controlled by the leader and just been completely
unaware that he was the Red Hulk until like that
that scene where he's like like both like at
the podium Or they could have kept the same idea,
and he's like, hey, I kept the leader around
because I was exposed to whatever, and he's helping
me. He thinks that the leader is helping him
suppress the Hulk, and oops, turns out he was
just making it stronger or whatever, making it
to where he could control it. I don't know. I
just am so, it was so disappointing that everything
I was waiting to see was at the literally the
last 10 minutes of the movie. Yeah, it was, it
was, it was kind of a letdown, unfortunately.
Like, I think the story was like, like I said,
it was, it was going too hard for a winter soldier
vibe. And I think it had the potential, but it
was trying. i don't know it was it was just it
was mimicking winter soldier and when it could
have been its own thing like its own like investigation
instead of like straight up like like this is
literally like what like captain america goes
to like a black site and finds villain That happens
in both winter soldier and brave new world. Yeah.
Well, that was a lot of the things I saw. And
some of those things that I watched was like,
everything was an homage to another captain America
movie. And it's like, Hey man, this isn't. this
isn't steve rogers like they even made a whole
point of saying you're not steve rogers like
he needs his own elevator moment that's not in
an elevator like you know what i mean like it
doesn't need to be like a one -for -one thing
but like he needs his thing that people aren't
like wow that's what steve rogers did and he
did it too but different because he's got wings
like let him have his own thing i will say um
my Arguably my favorite part of Captain America,
the Winter Soldier is just seeing the, what's
the, like the birth of Falcon, like how Sam Wilson
turns into Falcon and just the relationship between
Cap and Falcon. I just love that. It's my favorite
part of the movie. And so I wasn't shocked that
in this one. Story -wise, that was probably my
favorite part as well, just seeing this new Captain
America and this new Falcon have to work together
and also watching Joaquin just get into the role
of Falcon and getting his feet wet and just all
that stuff. So when it comes to positives, I
will have to say that's one of my biggest ones
when it comes to story. Even what you said there,
I didn't even realize it until you just said
it. The balance that they had in Winter Soldier
between Cap's relationship to Bucky and his relationship
to Anthony Mackie, it was balanced well. You
cared about those relationships. Granted, they
had more time to... present themselves before
that movie showed up um but that didn't that
could have happened in this movie between uh
cap and isaiah and then him and uh new falcon
like you could have had those those dynamics
happening again to where you're like oh i i even
though i don't really know these characters that
much like you could have clearly written that
in a way that you would love those characters
and like love that they were together. Like the
only part of that whole movie that I was like,
Oh look, there's an old MCU writer, uh, is when
they were at that base and a new Falcon. I can
never remember his name. Uh, like just over the
intercom. He played that Mr. Blue and they were
like, what the hell are you doing? He's like,
eh, we know nobody's, uh, nobody's infected now.
Like that was a great. moment and that was like
classic mcu and it made me happy and sad because
i was like this was good like that wasn't actually
good joke that was like a fun part of this movie
and it was over like that yeah i really dug the
relationship between cap and falcon in this one
like a lot like i i really liked joaquin torres
yeah he was he was really good Just getting into
the grade and everything, this was below average
for me. It's barely cracking 70s. I'm at a 70.
Damn. I came into this... There's a lot about
this movie that I do like in other aspects. The
effects. I loved the action sequences. Yeah,
dude. at the beginning like when he like how
he was flying blocking stuff like with his wings
every sorry go ahead no no no like yeah like
that exactly like i loved the when he's though
like in his iron man fighting different like
he's fighting different than than steve rogers
and like the the action sequences i didn't necessarily
care for or was like the one in the bunker I
don't give a shit about him beating all these
guys up. That was Steve's thing. Wait, in the
bunker? Wasn't it in a bunker? Was there another
one in a church or something? What am I thinking
of? He was just straight up fighting. That big
dude ripped his wings off. Wasn't that in the
church? Did he rip his wings? I don't know if
he ripped his wings. yeah because he has freaking
uh wakandan wings now he did something there
was something that happened there was some reason
why he couldn't fly around anymore that big like
hulking dude uh oh yeah like he fought that one
guy in the church and then yeah is that so that's
not what you were talking about what was the
no the one where they met the leader and the
leader like basically brainwashed all the guards
and everything and then he's like sending them
in like waves and stuff and he's just like yeah
and it was like right when Ruth came to save
their asses yeah I do vaguely remember yeah like
any fights where he was on the ground for a majority
of the fight I didn't care for Like the one in
the church, I didn't mind too much because he
like there was some jokes and stuff where he's
just like shit. Well, I mean, to counter that,
I actually didn't mind that because he I mean,
it is showing how versatile he is, like he can
do all the cap stuff. Plus, you know, he can
block missiles with his wings. Yeah, I don't
know. I think I would have liked to see him.
with his wings but having to like having to fight
like these like these crazy amounts of people
in a tight space where he can't fully extend
like i think it would have been funny to see
him try and like torpedo himself with the with
the shield where he just kind of like leans down
and just like fires off and like straight up
just tries to torpedo and i don't know like obviously
can't use the full wingspan because it's like
but i think it would have been fun to see him
try and fight with wings inside like a corridor
yeah marvel is good for a good hallway fight
i uh this yeah i would have liked to have seen
that Yeah, but it just made me think to that
scene where he's taking on that plane and he
just puts his wings out in front of him and then
covers his head with the shield and everything.
I'm like, that was sick. Yeah, that was awesome.
I didn't even mind the whole Black Panther build
-up. you know how like when when he would when
his wings would take damage he could use it to
blast people like i like that oh yeah that was
awesome i thought that was really fun uh kind
of a callback just because what wakandan technology
yeah but yeah story -wise like like i said sitting
at a 70 like it was it was close to being in
the 60s honestly Personally, I'm actually higher
than you, Caleb. I'm at a 72. I definitely agree
with all that you said. It's definitely not a
great story, but I still feel for a Captain America
story. I still had a good time, and I don't really
have anything else to add from what we've talked
about. Just slightly above you. Where are you
at DJ? I am also at 70. I, I can't, I, I, yeah,
we've talked it to death. All right. Moving on
over to writing. I'm a little higher on this.
I'm, I'm still, I need to talk it out a bit,
but I'm debating being in like the eighties with
that one. I thought a lot of the dialogue was
pretty solid. Yeah, I agree. A lot of the exchanges
were fantastic. Every exchange between Sam and
Joaquin was fantastic. I loved these two together.
Just as much as I love the exchange between Steve
and Sam, I love the exchanges between Sam and
Joaquin. Fantastic together. What else do I want
to say? All of Harrison Ford's monologues or
Thaddeus Ross's monologues were freaking insane.
Like that, the way he, the monologue before,
you know, he gets shot at. Amazing. That was
great. Loved that. And I feel even, I don't know
about you guys, but what were your thoughts on
what the leader would say? or your guys' thoughts?
I liked his dialogue. Yeah? Yeah. I don't know.
I thought he was a good villain. Overall, obviously,
how he looked was a problem, and maybe some of
the stuff that he tried pulling was a little
convoluted, but overall, I didn't mind him as
a villain. I really liked him. I loved Tim Blake
Nelson. Oh, yeah. Fantastic actor. Amazing. I
wish he would have gotten to be a little bit
more leader like, though, because leaders a little
bit more. I don't know. He's like unapologetically.
Like, I don't know, like it's hard to explain
the leader, like he just kind of doesn't care
about casualties. So like with him apologizing
to some people, I'm like, that's a little odd
for the character, but I don't hate it. Yeah.
So it's just little things like that, like minor
gripes. One of my favorite bits of dialogue was
between Bucky and Sam when Joaquin was in the...
Dude, I actually started shedding some tears
during that scene. That was powerful, man. Yeah,
that shit was good. DJ, what are your thoughts?
Are you okay? Did we lose you? If you guys are
talking to me, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. I
cannot hear you guys at all. And I was trying
to fix this while you guys were talking and I'm
going to still try and do that. I straight up
thought you were just trying to like track down
a bug that was in your room. He can't hear us.
Oh shit. Let's see. Go more into dialogue. Dude,
my favorite thing is when Sam was asking Bucky
whether or not it was a mistake that he didn't
take the super soldier serum. And Bucky was like,
you're not Steve. You don't have to be Steve.
Be your own Captain America. All that good shit.
And then in the fight with Red Hulk, he's just
like, don't take the super sodium serum. What
kind of bullshit was that? That was fantastic.
Yeah, I freaking love that. Oh, man. But I don't
know. I like everyone's dialogue. Yeah, it was.
It was really good. Going back to, though, I
don't know, maybe this is a story thing, but
maybe writing. um well you mentioned how like
the other four men were in a different cell than
isaiah and then when i forget who comes to shoot
them do you remember who it is yeah it was a
cop it was one of the cops mind controlled yeah
so freaking he's able to you know open the door
and kill all those four but then he doesn't make
it to isaiah's cell so like during with what
you said like yeah can you say why the hell armor
yeah like why the hell wasn't isaiah put with
the these other four men is he that special yeah
it was a super soldier yeah exactly but it's
just like but i mean he's in the same prison
yeah the cell right next to them Yeah, like,
what kind of stupid shit was that? By the way,
you guys are just making my case for why was
he in jail to begin with. Just make him anything
else. He would have been a great Overwatch or
a guy that was like, I can't make it. How am
I going to? And then, boom, Isaiah shows up and
is like, I'll punch him real hard for you. That's
what I used to do a lot. Punch. And there you
go. It would be cool to see him suited up. Yes.
Awesome. You mean not in prison garb or. Yeah.
Yeah. Like see him in his like classic super
or his Captain America outfit. Because have you
seen Isaiah Bradley's like Captain America uniform?
Yeah. Yeah. So his is more like. So imagine.
So imagine the scales, like Captain America's
scales. Yes. So it's kind of like that. So it's
like that top, but it's short sleeve instead
of long sleeve. He has red gloves, kind of the
same deal, stars and stripes. Everything's like
Captain America -esque, like the blue pants.
He's got the utility belt. like the star stripes
and he's got the the scales and everything the
only difference on his helmet it's more like
a bandana like a full like a like a helmeted
like bandana that's kind of awesome yeah it's
freaking like it's it's freaking sick like everything
about like isaiah bradley's like captain america
is freaking like awesome but again like the only
difference is instead of like the white to the
gloves he he just it's just skin like on steve
rogers like where he has like the like the blue
shoulder white sleeve and then um red gloves
it's just the blue shoulder like kind of cut
off at the bicep and then it's just his skin
and then the the red gloves and then his shield
is shaped like uh like caps was before he got
his round shield oh so like the actual like a
shield shield yeah and i think it was just silver
like it would it didn't have any like stars and
stripes on it it was just a silver shield that's
dope yeah So I think it would have been kind
of cool to see him suited up. But fortunately,
I don't think they're ever going to go. Maybe
we'll see him in Secret Wars. Maybe. That'd be
that'd be a cool like little cameo, like all
they're going through the multiverse. That'd
be a cool thing to see. Just if Isaiah Bradley's
Captain America was like the Captain America.
I mean, they put Captain Britain or whatever
Haley Atwell's deal was like, why not? Fair enough.
Dialogue -wise, I think I did talk myself up
to being in the 80s, so I'm sitting at an 80.
I think I'm going to match you at that. Yeah,
I agree with that. You know what? I'm not going
to rock the boat too much. I'm just going to
also go 80. I'm going to let that one joke I
talked about earlier just carry me up. Gosh,
I'm trying to think of other shit that they had.
I mean, it was good. I liked Sam and Thaddeus'
dialogue. They showed it in the trailer, but
it was one of the... cooler parts of the movie.
I thought whenever he was, uh, whenever they
had that back and forth, right, by the way, right
after he was like, I want you to start the new
Avengers. Like, wow, that's cool. He's like,
also you're not that guy. You're not that guy.
Hey, you're not that guy. Uh, so by the way,
thank you Rose for getting that. I thought I
was going to say that to the void. so yeah i
that that was like confusing but also i was like
all right let's see what you got there sammy
boy dude you know another like real quick thing
that i really liked about this movie it's such
a small little thing but made me this movie made
me realize how sick and tired i am of nanotech
suits yeah yeah like the fact that like that
sam's suit like his first suit like gets all
like ripped up and everything and he's like oh
gotta go get a new one and then he's like packing
it in a bag and then he's like all right now
we gotta go change like like doing all that shit
i'm like god like i freaking love this shit did
you see it made sense like with the helmet that
he had to like do have the nanotech helmet because
one wakandan technology but everything else about
it i'm just like yes like the he has to put it
on and it's like a struggle and like love that
shit somebody did an interview with uh uh charlie
cox is that the guy who plays daredevil yeah
and vincent d 'onofrio and he was he was like
The interviewer was like, I just want to make
my plea right now. Please, if you have any say
so at all, do not let them make your suit into
nanotech. He's like, just don't do it. And they
were both kind of like, well, why? And he's like,
you are the street level hero. like you can't
like it just it doesn't make sense for you to
all of a sudden be like yeah and all of a sudden
i can just keep my suit in my ring or whatever
uh and it's just it's there like this is it's
your deal like you get down and dirty like you
would not He's like, I don't see you having nanotech
and both. Like, I feel like whenever you can
get Vincent D 'Onofrio to go like, Hmm. Okay.
Yeah. And even he was like, yeah, that's actually
a really good point. Yeah. Dude, I just saw behind
the scenes pictures of his suit of Charlie Cox's
suit for season two of this new daredevil. So
they went with the black suit with red with,
and he's getting the dump, like the two D's.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So it's blacks. It's
a blacks, all black suit with the red highlights.
And then the, the D's are in red too. It looks
sick. That is dope. That is awesome. Yeah. That
makes me want to have like an old school Ninja
turtles movie. uh like the old like eastman like
black and white style sorry go ahead i mean if
we could go and remake the third live action
into turtles movie i'd be okay with that whoa
completely unrelated okay wait before you even
say that we will have no uh no blaspheming of
turtles in time okay you like turtles in time
that hit me right at the spot like i literally
went from as a child i had the cartoon and then
like just as i was becoming a person they were
like do you want to see it in real life and i
was like oh you're damn right i do they were
like look they even say words like damn and hell
check it out okay the first two the the first
one and secret of the ooze fantastic, especially
Secret of the Loose. Next to TMNT, that's probably
my second favorite Ninja Turtles movie. But I'm
sorry. I despise the third live -action Ninja
Turtles movie. I hate that movie. Listen, we're
two sides of the same coin. You love Joker, and
I think it's the worst thing ever. And I love
Turtles in Time, and you think it's the worst
thing ever. Listen, it's fine. it's fine we're
both we're both right okay okay really quickly
i do have a question have you seen tmnt the animated
one the is that the one i might have seen a piece
of it is that the one where it starts where they're
like it's animated right yeah yeah and it starts
with like michelangelo or something has to go
through a portal or something no there's like
uh anyway sorry continue tmnt no the tmnt starts
with leonardo in the jungle no i have not seen
it okay if you can what is it streaming on i
don't know if it's streaming on anything um it
might be on hbo um i'll look it up okay If it
is, please watch that movie because that is such
an underappreciated Ninja Turtles movie. Like
TMNT is so fucking good. The relationship, the
way that they portray the relationship between
Leonardo and Raphael is perfection. It is amazing.
Like Donatello, Michael Lange. Damn it. Donatello
and Michelangelo kind of get sidelined a little
bit. And that, you know, hurt me because, you
know, Donatello is my favorite, but it is justified
for where they take Leo and Raph because, oh
my God, I fucking love that movie so much. Sorry.
No, listen, I'm good with it. I just remember
as a little kid watching, maybe I wasn't a little
kid. well you know what for the story as a little
kid uh i was watching turtles in time and uh
i i don't know i've always been a sucker for
a time travel movie uh it like i grew up with
a kid in king arthur's court you know i'm saying
like we just all the back to the futures I like
a time travel story and it was all about helping
out these old, these old Chinese kids or whatever.
I don't really remember the movie, but I just
remember they had a magical scepter, which I
thought was awesome. And I always wanted one
when I was a kid. And they never did make that
toy, by the way, just, I don't know why. It's
really baffling me. Like how is NECA not made
that yet? That's insane. Yeah. It's, I would
buy it. by the way i would hang it right right
over there somewhere near uh caleb's handiwork
dude totally unrelated have you guys seen the
black ops 6 ninja turtle skins yes yeah i have
never purchased a bundle faster I bought Leonardo
immediately. Like, the day it came out. Like,
just, you know, to further go off the trail,
I don't play Fortnite at all, okay? But when
they announced, I don't know if you guys heard
the good news, they have all the Adventure Time
folks on there now. Jake and Finn and Marceline
and Princess Bubblegum. I was like, I really
did open up my little switch and redownload Fortnite.
And I was, I just looked at it and I was like,
am I going to buy skins right now that I'm probably
never going to use? Like I do not play Fortnite.
But I was really like, maybe, maybe this is my
end. Dude. I. I've been getting into, like, my
buddy at work has got me into playing PUBG. Wow,
that's still a thing? I used to, I thought PUBG,
because that and Fortnite came out at the same
time. And I played both when they came. And I
was like, well, PUBG is where it's at. Winner,
winner, chicken dinner. Like, everything's there.
Like, this is how we roll. And no. absolutely
not so apparently like wait so this is according
to my buddy he's so he has been playing this
like pub g since it came out on like he was one
of the beta players that's hilarious i love this
guy and yeah so he uh yeah so he's been getting
me into this like into this game and he's like
yeah there was a period of time where it kind
of sucked and he says but you power through and
he's like now it's like super fun uh and so like
when i play with my brothers like uh we would
play call of duty or like halo or whatever but
they still like for whatever reason like life
got in the way and so they stopped getting on
on sunday so i was like i don't have anyone to
play with and he's like you should download this
like we'll play like i'm always down to play
pub g and i'm like all right like i'll give it
a shot he like ran me through the basics and
everything like i freaking love that game now
like it's it's really good like it's fun i actually
have been playing it like when i play solo like
i actually pretty consistently get within like
the top 10. and because he said he's like your
play style like because he's he played call of
duty with me and my brothers and he says the
way that you try to play in call of duty you
would be really good in pub g and i'm like what
do you mean and he's like because you like to
camp and he says you like to camp you have like
one or two weapons that you like rely on really
heavily and they're usually snipers And he's
like, you like you would do really well with
a game like PUBG. And I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know. So when I finally downloaded it
and like kind of got like he would tell me, he's
like, all right, these are the weapons that you
that you always want to try and find. And he's
like, you either want this or you want this.
Like, you always want like an SMG. Like, so he
ran me through everything that he thought that
I do really well with. And I was like, OK. And
he's like, God damn it, if he wasn't right. like
i play now and like i said consistently like
pretty consistently within the top 10 at least
because i freaking snipe and i'm like always
crawling like people can't see me for shit dude
i'm glad that game is still getting played i
i used to love that game and yeah i haven't played
it years now i wasn't a beta tester but you know
You should try giving it a shot, dude. We have
a group and stuff. What do they call it? A clan?
You can have a bunch of friends in a clan. If
you want to give it another go. You heard it
here first, folks. Caleb is trying to induct
me into some kind of clan. Dude, I... Oh, man.
I have the same... comment about it when he was
just like oh yeah we're starting up a clan and
I'm like no come up with anything better to call
it yeah not in this political climate I'm just
hanging out with some buds anyway getting back
on track back to Big Head Jones Yeah, getting
into the acting. Starting off, we got Anthony
Mackie, who played Sam Wilson in Captain America.
We got Harrison Ford, who played President Ross
slash the Red Hulk. We got Danny Ramirez, who
played Joaquin Torres slash the New Falcon. We
got Shira Haas, who played Ruth Bat -Saraf. That's
how you say it. God damn it. We got Carl Lumley,
who played Isaiah Bradley. And we have Tim Blake
Nelson, who played Samuel Stearns, also known
as The Leader. Anyway, top three for you guys.
I have a feeling ours is going to be pretty similar,
unless someone wants to throw a wrench in it.
I feel number one for all of us is Anthony Mackie,
right? I don't know. Ask Caleb. Jesus. Yeah.
For me, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Ever since we
first saw him as Falcon in Captain America, the
Winter Soldier, I have absolutely loved him in
this role. I've loved this character. And just
seeing his progression from... That, to now,
has just been, honestly, one of the highlights
of the MCU. I've loved to watch his transition
into the new Captain America. And so, once again,
he was absolutely amazing. Fantastic. I love
him so much in this role. And, yeah, Anthony
Mackie is a gem. And he continues to showcase
why he was the perfect fit for this role while
he why he was cast in this role. And yeah, absolutely
loved him. Number one. Yeah, I mean, he's great.
I how could you know? Well, I love him. That's
what I'm going to say. I love him. I'm going
to say what I think about. You know what? Well,
OK, I am just going to say what is the guy's
name? What is Falcon? New Falcon's name? Joaquin.
Yeah. You know, in this movie, I think I would
have liked their banter more if there was, if
Bucky had just never showed up because when I
saw him, all I thought was, ah, I like their
banter so much better. I love them screwing with
each other. Like I just missed all of the stuff
from cat or yeah. Falcon and winter soldier,
like just them screwing with each other the whole
time. I mean, this guy was great. Danny Ramirez
was great. But I was like, and for what they
did. with bucky i'm like wait i don't do we even
really need this like couldn't that have just
been like on a newspaper like hey uh bucky barnes
running for senate anyway no that's right because
they literally uh i forget who said but they
said um because you know he looks so different
in thunderbolts they're just like yeah he was
only in office for like two months and so that
that's why uh bucky looks the way that he does
in uh thunderbolts he he went off the deep end
I want to know how they freaking justify that.
Like, you're going to have someone run for Congress,
and then you're sending them after the Thunderbolts?
Yeah. I mean, but they did say he was running,
so there's no guarantee that he wins. But then
why even, like, what is it, Chekhov's Senate
race? Like, why have the race there if you're
not? Well, I think I saw I think I read somewhere
that he does win, but he only lasts two months
in office. They have they have to explain that
shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I agree. Yeah, because,
again, if he's only like what? I don't know.
Anyway. Yeah. Anthony Mackie, number one. You
are my number one, Anthony. Tony, as I call him.
I will say this is a spoiler. Danny Ramirez is
my number three. I really liked his, his version
of Falcon. Like, I think he has like enough of
that, like excitement, like kind of that excitement
that like, like Spider -Man had or like Ms. Marvel,
like that where they're excited to be a superhero.
Yeah. And then, yeah. And then obviously he gets
hit with, with the missile. Yeah. Damn. yeah
and then he he's just i don't know like i like
that he wasn't like super like almost overly
apologetic about what happened he was just like
i was off my game like should have listened to
you like like he knew like he knew humility yeah
like he like where spider -man he like was straight
up telling iron man to his face he's just like
man like like you don't know in fairness he was
12 or something right yeah but like him like
he's got that like i don't know just the excitement
that he has to be a superhero is is uh it's fun
i like seeing that stuff endearing yeah yeah
but anyway i'm assuming our number i don't know
about you guys is he also in your top three or
He's in my top three, but he's actually my number
two. Is he your number two? Oh yeah. Loved him.
He's fantastic. You know, I love the tease that
we got of him and Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
And that just carried onto this movie. And I
loved him even more here. So he's number two
for me. I'll go. My number three was the thinker,
whatever his name was, the leader. Yeah. I like,
I. He was he was an old guard character that
I enjoyed seeing. Like I didn't. It's not that
I didn't enjoy Liz. What's her face? Liv Tyler.
But it was just like this is this guy could have
just as easily been like a useless cameo. And
it was I don't know. I liked I liked what he
did. I liked that he was game to do all of this.
And I don't know. I liked him. I was so excited
when he got announced that he was going to be
in this. Like, so excited. I thought he was going
to be the perfect villain for, like, Sam Wilson,
who's not super -powered, who doesn't, like,
where all he's fighting off of is, like, his
skill. Like, he's kind of, like, essentially,
like, Sam Wilson is like Hawkeye with a bigger
title. Yeah. That's crazy. How dare you disgrace
Hawkeye like that? Listen, Hawkeye is Hawkeye.
Like, I'm not going to discredit that, but Hawkeye
is not Captain America. Yeah. But like, but yeah,
Sam Wilson, not only like if he fails, if he
fails, like he not only fails as. former falcon
he fails as captain mother effing america good
point so where it was where he's more of a um
uh where where his threat comes from his intelligence
versus like a physical threat like that's what
i i liked about the the leader Yeah. Can I give
a honorable mention, by the way, if you don't
mind? Just the guy we haven't mentioned at all.
Our old pal Giancarlo Esposito. Oh, I didn't
have him on this list. That poor bastard was
featured in every trailer as the main bad guy.
And he did a great job in this movie. And then
they were just kind of like, I don't know. Who
are you? What? Get out of here. Go back to your
chicken shop, idiot. man they that was such a
wasted potential yeah that was like you could
have had literally anybody else marvel is great
at wasting amazing actors on nonsense uh case
in point christian bale come on son that was
that should have been a character uh gore should
have been a character for the ages and then we
just love and thundered him up and we're like
see you later we'll never see you again thanks
for contributing no joke dude he would have been
perfect as like a new professor x bail like i
would have loved no uh jean no not bail No, I
think Giancarlo would have made a really good
like Professor X or even like a Magneto. I would
like to see him as either of those. I like him
better as Magneto than Charles. He seems like
a little too old. uh, to be for whatever they're
going to do with the X -Men going forward. Um,
cause we, I don't know if you guys saw the residence,
uh, that should new show on Netflix. He was in,
uh, it's like a murder mystery show. It doesn't
matter. He was in that. And I was like, Oh yeah,
this dude is, is getting old. Cause I've seen
some clips of him recently from, uh, breaking
bad. I'm like, Oh yeah, I thought he was the
same age, but he is way older now. Yeah. Like
I said, just wasted potential of someone who
could have been great. Yeah. And he's just a
super... Honestly, I almost forgot he was in
this. Yeah. By the way, we all did. And by the
way, he was the whole reason the whole thing
popped off because he was the one that stole
the adamantium. Did he steal it or was he getting
it back from who stole it? No, he had stolen
it and he was going to sell it. That's what it
was. And then, yeah, and then it was going to
be some like back alley deal in the middle of
Mexico. So, yeah, literally part of the crux
of the movie was basically forgotten. Yeah. All
right. Then I'm assuming our number two or my
number two, at least. Harrison Ford? Mine too.
Yep. He's my three. Close enough. Yeah, I love
him. Absolutely love him. He was a great Thaddeus
Ross. I loved it. Like I said, he still has that
intimidation factor. and then like when he went
all red hulk like freaking love that shit dude
like i thought that was so good that is how you
do a hulk correctly yes like that's exactly what
that like it pissed me off i'm like oh so you
guys are like i freaking like walked out when
i was talking to like my wife about it She was
just like, so what do you think of Red Hulk?
And I'm like, it pissed me off. And she's like,
well, I thought he was good. And I'm like, he
was good. That was the problem. Like, are you
kidding me? Like, you guys don't know how to
do, like, don't know what to do with the Hulk,
but you can get the Red Hulk done, like, done
right? Like, that's bullshit. Like, if there's
any Hulk that needs to go from, like, this to
what's like, what the Hulk currently is. It needs
to be this Hulk. Like red Hulk is one that like,
yeah, he's like monstrous, like chaotic and stuff,
but he's generally in control of himself. Like
he had to learn that, but he like got to that
point. The one character that's never been able
to do that is banner and the Hulk, because they
are two separate entities. Nope, not from what
I saw. He gives people tacos and signs, autographs.
It's great. And he also dabs. I'm going to flip
this table into the sun. Yeah, so like I said,
love seeing the Red Hulk, seeing a Hulk done
justice, but it pissed me off. Something awful.
It makes me mad that I know I'm probably never
going to get to see a Hulk versus Red Hulk fight
that's going to be all comic accurate. That makes
me sad to my core. Or are you guys sitting with
your acting grade? Cause I'm higher and I'm not
quite in the, the nineties range yet, but I thought
everyone brought their a game where it was mainly
just like, if the story didn't suck, like, I
think this would have been higher, but I'm just
going to like an 86. I went, I already wrote
down 85. So there you go. Yeah. Alright, next
up we got character development. I would love
to hear what you guys thought of any character
development that happened in this movie. There
wasn't much, to be honest. No. Because all of
Sam's character development happened in Falcon
and Winter Soldier. So, like, if you haven't
seen that and you're coming to this, you're just
like, what the hell? He's like a... Almost feels
like a whole new character here. Now, there was
one character that had a good bit of development
right there at the end, and it was our boy Thaddeus.
When he was like, I gots to be in this here raft.
I gots to be in here because I did all those
bad things and everybody saw me do it. Which
did not seem to be his MO at the beginning. He
did not seem like a guy who would take accountability.
Now, granted, there is literally... No reason
for him to take that accountability that we saw
other than he saw some Jasmine trees or whatever
that reminded him of his daughter. But you need
the context of an Edward Norton movie for that
to make any sense. So, yep, it's I don't know.
I don't know if there was any character development
by anybody in this movie. I would say maybe Joaquin
got some. just because he was like so over eager
to be the new Falcon. I'll give you that. And
then like, yeah. And then he gets like bushwhacked
and kind of has a coming to Jesus moment with
himself and being like, yeah, I should have listened.
And Sam kind of gives him the lesson. Like, yo,
like, I know I'm not a super soldier, so I got
to be on my game at all times, like, and in all
things and in all places, like there's. Like
I can't afford to not be. And he says, so like,
it just takes training. It takes time. Like you,
you got. major hurt but we can learn from it
so like i i like that like a little bit but it
was it was so minor like i wouldn't i would consider
like that was maybe the most of the movie and
even that was a very small slice yeah because
we definitely didn't get anything from isaiah
either well listen i think isaiah's i was literally
just about to say isaiah that was like his character
development was uh my answer to everything from
now on is no there is no there is no maybe or
yes left in my heart the answer is no You want
to help? No. Are we all going to die? No. I don't
know. Get out of here. Leave my house. Get off
my property. He went from a guy who was happy
to be living in the world again to what must
be now a new recluse. know how freaking heartbroken
i was when they got after he had just explained
the significance of his suit yes and having it
taken from him i wanted to die bro that was like
when that when that guard came out and she's
like oh we got your suit for you mr bradley and
like handed him oh thank god yeah yeah isn't
that funny that that's the only suit that anyone
was worried about in this movie dude isaiah's
whole deal like i felt so bad for him Yeah, they
did him dirty. He's out in the public eye. He
was feeling all like got his sexy on and like
in his super nice suit. And then immediately
all of that gets taken away and he doesn't even
remember it. do this yeah when he's like what
am i doing here i was like oh my god like after
he had run uh from the oh my god dude i was like
no please god why yeah heartbreaking absolutely
heartbreaking but i mean i guess there was some
growth i get well not really because he was just
like man f the government like i like i'm gonna
freaking deuces out of here And Sam was like,
no, trust the system. We'll clear your name.
And he's just like, you bitch better be right.
The system already did me dirty. What do you
think they're going to do this time? Do me less
dirty? I don't think so, sir. Yeah. So for movies
like this that have like... almost zero character
development that like, what, how do you even
grade that? Is that just a straight up zero?
Like, no, like this is, I don't know. It's below
average for sure. But I like my average is like
75 like that. I think that's like a, a C and
just because it had less than average amounts
of, of character development, I'd probably. be
sitting at like a 72 -ish. I'm slightly above
at a 74. It's just because the reason I'm going
that route is because I did enjoy the arc that
Joaquin's Falcon got. That's the big reason why
I'm just a little bit higher. Yeah, totally fair.
I was going to go 70, but I'm going to give it
a 71. You guys talked me up. All right, next
up we got effects. So this is like anything practical
that they did, anything like stunt work, effects,
which this looked amazing. Yeah, dude, the flight
sequences were fantastic. That battle where,
you know, Joaquin gets shot down, that was just
a spectacle to watch. That was so freaking cool.
Yeah, that was super sick. I loved how they did
long -distance shots of them maneuvering around
with the missiles and stuff, like the top -down
view. I loved that. Yeah. like i thought that
looked so cool um even i feel the opening battle
when we first see sam back um everything that
he does with you know fighting with his wings
the shield just like i had i had like a smile
on my face just watching that that was freaking
great yeah i did yeah that was dope yeah so wait
what did you guys think of i guess this was probably
more of like a writing or a story thing but the
sto the When he was actually fighting Red Hulk,
like did any of that strike you as like, I think
he would have been pulled apart like a daddy
long legs. I think that they handled that sequence
well enough because he like he wasn't just like
taking the shots like he was digging his wings
into the ground to anchor himself. and then like
it wasn't him like the shield taking the brunt
of those hits it was the wings were taking like
a good majority of those hits and then yeah like
the shield was taking some too and he was like
like i thought it was it made sense when he did
like throw the shield at him that it just grabbed
out the air and slammed it in the ground i'm
like yeah that's that's that feels right yeah
um But yeah, when he started to try and fly away,
he got one of his wings ripped off. I thought
that was accurate. And then how he got one wing
supercharged and just stabbed it into him. And
then blew it up. I was like... That was the part.
I thought that... I mean, is he just not as strong
as the Hulk? No. Is that the deal? No, he's not.
Okay. I only ask because I can't imagine anything
piercing Hulk's skin like that. You know what
I mean? So that's the part that I was like, wait
a minute. Well, it's also Wakandan technology,
too. So I think you've got to give it a little
bit. Yeah, but radiation, though. We're talking
about minerals versus radiation. I don't know.
Yeah, but I think, I don't know. I bought it
enough. Like I thought like when he, when he
went to stab it in, cause I mean, it was supercharged
with that kinetic energy. So like you could probably
deal something like a flash, like, or a reverse
flash, like vibro fist, like going in. No, but
yeah. Red Hulk is weaker than Hulk. Which is
crazy because he looked, just to what you were
saying before, looked amazing. It was a travesty
that that thing was not more in the movie because
it looked better than the Hulk. And I'm talking
about any version of the Hulk that we've gotten
so far. It looked dangerous. That's a bit blasphemous.
Avengers Hulk and Age of Ultron Hulk? Dope. yeah
those those were the last good versions of the
hulk unfortunately though i'm gonna re -watch
or at least re -watch some scenes with that to
see but like i think that i don't know i would
like to see those compared like one to one next
to each other like in motion because i'm not
saying that like those were bad looking i'm just
saying like i i feel like this was like the way
that you could set you're like i feel like when
i watched the like the first avengers you're
like oh yeah that's mark ruffalo's head on top
of that hulk where you were like that is harrison
ford as a hulk and it looks somehow like it would
be his body that like morphed into this thing
that is going to kill Sam Wilson for sure. And,
uh, they made, they made this red Hulk a lot
more lean than, uh, than Mark Ruffalo's Hulk.
Like Mark Ruffalo or something. What? almost
like it was like a bodybuilder or something like
cut like doing that like water cut so like all
the muscles were like right there like the skin
was super thin so you could just like what every
muscle was like yeah but i loved how the red
hulk looked so another big difference and i love
that you could kind of like notice this um is
when red hulk gets like the matter red hulk gets
the hotter he burns yeah and then like red hulk
the stronger he gets or yeah normal hulk the
stronger he gets the red hulk the hotter he burns
and so i loved when he was transforming like
things were like sizzling around him yes that
was very cool yeah like really fun detail i think
it would have been interesting to see him like
straight up melt some shit but they're saving
that for doomsday or whatever i hope so i hope
this isn't the last we get to see of red hulk
yeah i hope not either like i'm a big fan of
red hulk listen i love harrison ford but he what
is he 175 years old like he's not he's getting
up there he's not gonna be around much longer
so i don't know yeah but there's not very many
scenes that i saw that looked bad everything
like looked really good yeah the effects throughout
were very solid yeah i think i think they definitely
found their hot spot in terms of like the effects
but i mean obviously you can't do that with all
superhero movies because some superheroes require
a bit more cgi than others true uh effects wise
though i'm i'm cracking 90s like i might be at
90 like i i didn't have very many issues at all
yeah you know i think i'm gonna agree with you
90 oh well look who's on top now it's me at 95
because i think i mean as much as i talk shit
about uh being disappointed about not seeing
the red hulk until like the last five seconds
of the movie like it was to see it was great
like it was it was as good as you would have
hoped it would be so I don't know I think that
went a long way to even though the scene wasn't
exactly what I wanted it to be like I don't know
what I thought I wanted but it was just shorter
it wasn't I would have just liked to see more
of it I think is what I'm trying to say I would
have liked to have seen more Red Hulk in this
movie than we got I agree. I absolutely agree.
I left wanting more Red Hulk. Yeah. Alright,
next up we got music. Which this was average.
Yeah, it was like Bare Bones Marvel soundtrack,
really. I don't even think they had any like...
pop songs in this did they yeah i don't think
they did either uh what about mr blue sky or
whatever that was you know what 60s pop i don't
think they ever played enough of it for me to
be like oh yeah like it was all it was always
super quick like a quick little tune like i it
almost like they played it so quick that i had
a hard time like what it like what song is that
Well, listen, just to go back to what you were
saying about how this could be the new golden
age for DC, I feel like DC has a lot more iconic
music for their characters than Marvel does.
Marvel does have iconic music now, but it comes
from the movies. You know what I mean? So it's
not something that's been ingrained in people
for the past few decades, where like... If someone
played the Superman theme in a crowd of people,
most people would be like, oh, Superman's coming
soon. Batman's coming soon. But if you played
the Iron Man one, people would know it. I'm not
saying no one would know, but it's not as...
Even if you played Captain America's theme, you're
not going to be like, oh, yeah, man, we're about
to see a shield. You just wouldn't know it the
same way that you know. dc stuff and i feel like
that's always my thing with marvel i bet if you
looked at every marvel movie i've ever i've ever
rated with you guys i've probably just been like
it's nothing i don't remember anything i i personally
feel the out of all of the marvel movies that
have come out of the mcu i feel the only one
that like you immediately just like you're just
like yeah that's that that is that specific theme
is the avengers theme I agree. That is the one
that is always recognizable, even with the first
note. I don't know. I feel like Captain America's
tune is pretty recognizable. Not as immediately,
but it's definitely not as immediate as the Avengers
or Superman or Batman, but I think It's definitely
up there. I think I remember Captain America's
more than I do any of the other Avengers. I mean,
think of it this way. They also shifted it, too.
I think that's another problem. I think they
tried to change it from... I think that's almost
like the Steve Rogers theme versus the Sam Wilson.
I think Sam's got a little changed. So I would
look... I would say look at it like this, like
just to, you know. never stop talking about james
gunn uh through those three guardians of the
galaxy movies like he took songs that already
existed but now for the majority of people that
have seen even one of those movies if they hear
a song from that movie they're not going oh that's
band name and band name song they're gonna go
oh that's the guardians of the galaxy song that's
you know what i mean like they he was able to
take something that already existed and make
it like their their own kind of theme song through
three movies. So it's like, I don't know, like
it's not impossible to do. So I don't know. Cause
like hooked on a feeling literally belongs to
the guardians. Now if you hear, yeah, not like
you don't. immediately you're thinking, yeah.
Come on, Marvel. Do better. You're never going
to beat the Superman theme ever. That might be
the most recognizable superhero theme in all
of history. You hear that trumpet or whatever
it is playing and you're like, oh, okay. We're
good. God is coming. God's on his way. I'm on.
i don't know like i think yeah they need they
need some work like this soundtrack was like
playing jane as you can possibly get yeah i think
they it would have been cool had they tried to
like update or modernize steve rogers theme a
little bit because it was always like the old
like the trumpets like the old like world war
ii like be almost bugle sound and stuff that
like that. But I think like they should have
tried to update it a little bit for Sam Wilson.
Like kind of keep with the theme. So it's more
like this is Captain America's theme and not
like stealing it from Steve Rogers. Yeah. So
I I'm personally at a five with music. It was
so middle of the road. Everything worked for
the scenes. There wasn't anything that was unfitting.
I think I'll just be a little nicer at a six.
Yeah, that was what I initially put whenever
we started talking. Six. Alright, next up we
got costumes. It's unfortunate that Sam's amazing
Captain America suit from the show was in, like,
what, 20 minutes of the movie? Yeah. That sucked.
Not in its entirety, because he got rid of the
half cowl. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Well,
it was mainly because Anthony Mackie was like,
yeah, because I didn't want to wear it. But he
says. But he said logistically it was a nightmare
for them to alter because they wanted it to be
flush up against his face. But they said anytime
he moved, it would curl out a little bit, and
so it would leave a gap. And they're like, yeah,
we didn't like that. It didn't feel very heroic.
So they just, boom, just gave him the goggles
and called it a day. Okay. Okay, so that makes
sense. Yeah. But it was still unfortunate that
we didn't get that suit for the whole movie.
Don't get me wrong. I liked the suit that he
got. That looked good, but it was just unfortunate
that we finally get a comic -accurate Falcon,
not Falcon, I'm sorry, Captain America Falcon
suit, and we only get it for the last episode
of the show and then the first 20 minutes of
the movie. Yeah, you want to talk about some
bullshit. Dude, did you hear? God, another side
note, people. The people that are working on
Spider -Man 4 have already said that the suit
that he's going to be wearing in Spider -Man
4 isn't the one that we saw at the end of No
Way Home. Why? Marvel loves to switch a suit.
They love to switch a suit. What the fuck? I
know. I used to think it was to sell toys, but
it's like I haven't seen enough toys. Listen,
I go in the toy aisle. frequently i haven't seen
enough variations of these toys to justify how
often they switch the suits now listen to devil's
advocate advocate the devil as you do uh i mean
maybe it's a case of like because we saw him
at the end of no way home uh get it uh we saw
him at the end of no way home like swinging off
in his his uh little pajama suit like maybe he
just is it's i mean that is i would say that
is a thing for spider -man of like trying to
update his suit uh, you know, just kind of having
different variations of it, I guess, or not variations,
but different, like trying to just bring it up
to the next level. Um, by the way, sidebar to
your sidebar, uh, me and my nephew started watching
your friendly neighborhood, Spider -Man or whatever
the animated deal on Disney plus you guys watch
that. Oh, so good. Yeah. I, haven't finished
it yet uh but uh i i liked the version of that
that they did in that show where he had all those
won't spoil anything for heroes uh but just where
he had like there there was that that trial period
of a bunch of different suits uh whenever he
was trying to actually go out and do the thing
like so i think with spider -man it at least
kind of makes sense that he's got a bunch of
suits to choose from um but Yeah, I mean, that
still doesn't take away that Marvel loves a suit
swap. They cannot do two suits in two movies
or one suit in two movies. Yeah, it pisses me
off, honestly. Like, if you got something good,
just roll with it. Like, listen, are there some
characters where that makes sense? Yes. Are Iron
Man having different suits? Totally tracks with
the character, but fricking Thor, like you're
telling like this, you're telling me this dude
changes his suit that fricking often. Like he's
1500 years old. I mean, he is a, he's kind of
a vain ish God. So maybe. Yeah. But, um, like
I'll even give you captain America. Cause just
natural wear and tear on his suit. But there's
some characters you just can't get with messing
with. Like Spider -Man. You can't mess with Spider
-Man. Like, you can, but it's just not... Everyone
wants the classic look of Spider -Man. True that.
Although I did. I don't know. It didn't dawn
on me until just now that at the end of No Way
Home, when he was in his pajama outfit, he was
literally under ruse. Finally. Yeah. Oh, man.
But yeah, like getting back into this, like I
loved Sam Wilson's suit. I love both of them.
When he switched to the different one after the
first one had gotten all beat up and stabbed,
I didn't mind it too much. I also really liked
Joaquin Torres. I loved his iteration. I love
that it looked like the wings from Falcon and
Winter Soldier. Yes. like that's what i i liked
it wasn't like an updated version of the wings
it was the wings just painted different yeah
like and i like i said i loved that and i uh
he didn't have a helmet did he yeah he did did
he okay well no i okay yeah yeah i was i was
maybe thinking of uh of Sam's helmet. Love Sam's
helmet. Oh yeah, that looks so awesome. Trying
to think outside of that. The design for Red
Hulk we've already talked about was awesome.
Made him a bit more, I think we discussed, a
bit more lean looking than Banner's Hulk. Which
worked amazingly. i'm glad that they that they
kept true to the character with uh going black
hair like i think that they could have very easily
tried to make him look like old man red hulk
yeah and i'm glad that they didn't uh let's say
the leader look yeah well once you get used to
how he looks like yeah like i think it fits and
he looks he looks good Yeah. Like the, I think,
I don't know. Leaders never really had like an
iconic style about him. So him just kind of being
in a hoodie or just like a sweatshirt or whatever,
like was fine. Yeah. I don't know why I was like,
we're still doing, I think it's cause you said
red Hulk. I was thinking effects, but yeah, I
don't know. His, his, yeah, I don't know. I don't
know if I stand by what I just said about him
looking good. His face was great, but... I am
going to dock because of the promotional stuff
that we got about him. Because I feel like we
were ripped off of something that could have
been truly great. And it's like they tricked
us. Even the freaking pop figures, which I shouldn't
be surprised. I have a... pop figure up there,
that's a straight -up lie. Like, that frickin'
Hulk busting out of the Hulkbuster armor, like,
yeah, that one's a frickin' lie. Like, it's this
little guy right there. But, yeah, I think, like,
the potential for something great was there,
and I think they stole that from us. And it sucks.
But I, i'm not going to dock it too hard because
i did like everyone else's uh falcon like i said
falcon everything about him i i freaking loved
so i'd probably be at like a nine with costumes
because i think they're just that good looking
oh i'm gonna be more critical than eight are
you really yeah the leader though i don't know
the leader knocked me down quite a bit his design
I try not to let him affect my grade too much
because of how much I enjoyed Sam's and Joaquin's
look. I wish you would have got to see him side
by side in costume a bit more. I agree. Listen,
may I present into evidence Isaiah Bradley's
suit at the beginning to maybe get you up to
a nine? God damn it. Yeah, man. You got me, DJ.
You didn't have to do that. If DJ gives it a
nine, it's going to average up anyway. That's
true. No, I gave it a nine, too. All right. Last
up, we got personal scores. DJ, you want to hit
us first? I think. I think. I'm going to give
this movie this here movie we just saw. Yeah,
I'm going to submit it just so I can't second
guess myself. I think I'm going to give it a
75 because this movie like I. The thing that
disappoints me about Marvel movies now is that
like you have to you have to qualify going into
the movie to be like, I'm going to like this.
i'm gonna like it everyone says that marvel things
are bad and i'm not gonna be one of those guys
that just hates on it because it's not exactly
the thing that i want and that's not what happened
in this movie like it's i had literally no expectation
of it uh but it was just kind of like it wasn't
it didn't even seem to be like a means to an
end like it was a good movie like i i would watch
it again when it comes on disney plus i'll watch
it um but it wasn't, I don't know. Like it just
was not, it, it's what we said at the beginning.
It wanted to be old Marvel, old, old guard Marvel
or MCU. It wanted to be, you know, some new version
of the winter soldier. And it was just kinda,
it was just kinda like, let's throw everything
here and see what, see what sticks. I don't know.
I mean, I blame some of it on all of the reshoots
and edits and everything that had to happen.
But like, this is the movie we got. So, you know,
regardless of all of those, you know, whatever
development hell it went through to get to this
point, like this is what they thought would be
the best version of what they had. And it was
OK. Like it wasn't it was no the Marvels. But,
you know, it was also. marvels wasn't that bad
come on listen the marvels is was my is my template
for uh the mcu having a lot of cool ass ideas
and being like what if we just kept them all
separate from each other and never ever had them
meet in the middle and just be a cool thing all
together like that movie wasn't bad But it wasn't
like it had a lot of cool things that could have
happened that they were like, but what if we
didn't? Would you still love us if we didn't?
We're not going to. So I hope you still come
and buy our stuff. Because that movie, I mean,
I that was another one that I went in and that
people hated or people were saying that was terrible
that I was like, I am not going to go into this
movie with that mindset. And I came out. feeling
like i felt from uh for brave new world but a
little bit less because i saw more cool stuff
in that movie that kind of never really paid
off to anything and this was kind of that too
uh i mean i i've known a lot of these characters
for longer so i enjoyed this movie more than
that but yeah it was uh yeah i don't know i feel
like i'm just rambling at this point so I'm sorry,
everybody. I thought it was a C. No, I don't
disagree with you, though. I'm only a couple
points higher. I'm sitting at a 77. This is one
that I enjoyed. It's not one that I'm not ever
going to watch again. I enjoyed it. I had some
fun. Like I thought a lot of the sequences were
cool, but it just left me wanting. It's like,
ah, like wish they would have done this. Wish
they would have done that. Like it left me just
wishing for something else or something more,
something better. And I think unfortunately that's
how I kind of felt going in. I tried to not go
in with expectations, but I had a feeling when
I went in, I'm like, I bet you a lot of the cool
shit is in these trailers. And I was right, unfortunately.
So it was a bit of a letdown. And I think my
feelings towards it, too, my excitement level
and everything, was reflected in how... little
urgency i felt to go and see it because when
so when i first like well i guess the reason
i didn't go see it was because i was in the middle
of like i just got into home after my like my
dad's service and everything but i didn't feel
a sense of urgency because i didn't really i
wasn't seeing stuff about it on social media
because usually like that's usually my incentive
like oh i need to go see this immediately i don't
want anything spoiled for me and i i was going
to be the same way with that and then it's just
like oh reviews are coming in this is coming
in this is coming i didn't feel it i didn't see
or hear any of that stuff like it was just very
it was like flying under the radar and i was
like oh no like does that mean it's not good
and I know people like critics are being like
harsh on it, but I don't know. I think I might
be I might bump it up a hair. I might be at a
78 instead. Yeah, 78 feels a little bit more
right. It's definitely one of the lower MCU movies
scored. I mean, look, I mentioned the Marvels,
but also like Ant -Man, the last Ant -Man movie
like this, this, the Marvels, that Ant -Man movie,
like all of those, I feel like went into the
same category of a lot of cool ideas that just
never really made it into orbit. Like they just
kind of they were there and then they just were
like, all right, well, maybe this will pay off
in another movie. See you guys next time. yeah
i freaking hate that shit and that's something
i'm excited for with the dc stuff because he
says it's not going to be like that with us like
anything that we kind of tease is going to pay
off soon like if not the next movie then movie
after and i'm like freaking bet dude have you
did you see like how quickly he announced that
uh jason momoa is gonna play lobo that's great
by the way you guys it was you guys i was listening
to about him jason momoa uh having to have that
handler with him all the time to be like no no
no no no no no don't show anybody yeah someone
leaked that shit though yep i saw that he looks
great it was probably him by the way but dude
he looks so good Can I, dude, I, okay. I wished
when I was listening to your guys episode about
Minecraft, I really wished I had watched it to
be on with you guys because Jason Momoa, I heard
him in an interview talking with the girl that
played Don. Is that her name? It was either Don
or Natalie. God dang it. Wait, I've lost audio
again. God damn. He looks good. Right? Holy shit.
Yeah. Like, that's if it's real. Yeah. I know,
but he looks amazing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, so he's
going to be in Supergirl. Let's go. Wait, who's
going to be in Supergirl? I'm so sorry. Momoa.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, that. I cannot
wait to see him as Lobo. Like he, that is the
true, the true character he was meant to play
this whole time. No, I love how he got the job
too. He's just like, he's like, yo, we going
to do Lobo or what? James Gunn's like, yes. He
seems like the, like I, I. he always seemed like
a nice guy, but I saw him again, doing that interview
with that girl. I don't know her name, but she
was in the, in the Minecraft movie with him.
And they were talking to each other. And she
was like, she was talking about, or they, they
had to do like a, a strong agree or strong disagree.
And it was liking Irish goodbyes. And she was
like, strongly agree. Love it. And he was like,
strongly disagree. I hate it. And I am a, I am
a, an Irish good buyer. If there ever was one,
like, yeah, I'll just be gone. And he might've
changed my mind. Cause he was like, he looked
hurt that she was like in favor of that. Cause
he's like, I, I, if I'm somewhere at a party
with people, I know I love those people. i what
if i what if i leave and i die and i didn't tell
you goodbye or i love you or anything like you're
my friend like i why wouldn't i tell you goodbye
like you were nice enough to have me at your
house at least i could do is like give you a
hey see you later or something and i was like
Damn it, dude. Why? Why are you almost a normal
person? Will you stop and be more like our boy
Kang and just be super weird, Jonathan Majors?
Just be a weird actor guy who's just a weird
guy. Don't be normal. Stop. I pretty love Jason
Momoa, dude. Yeah, he's great. All right. Where
are you at with this movie, Rose? Not to piggyback
on Caleb again, but I'm also at a 78. But I was
at that before he changed his answer. I'm just
going to point that out. But, no, literally just
piggybacking off everything that you guys said.
When they first announced that Sam was getting
his own Captain America movie, I was freaking
stoked. And, you know, what we got, it was decent.
It was good. but I would have liked more. And
there, there's definitely, you know, stuff that
I would have changed, but what we got, I'll take
it. And I still had a good time. Hell yeah. So
you heard it. You heard it here. First folks,
the all bros canceled out my personal score by
teaming up on me and having the same one. It's
cool. How it works. You just said, you just said
for music, you were like, all right, let me explain
how our system works. So anything that's out
of a hundred, it just averages out those, the
three numbers when it's music, where it's one
out of our like music and costumes, where it's
one, one out of 10, it just, it rounds to like
the nearest number. So like if two people would
like, if, if me or the, it rounds to the lowest
from like 0 .5. So like it says since me and
you, so if, if Rose would have given it an eight,
the, the average number would have been like
8 .66 or something like that. And so it just
round, it would round it up. Yeah. It would have
rounded it up. But if it would have been opposite,
where if like you and Rose would have given it
an eight and I would have given it a nine, it
would have rounded or the average would have
been eight point three three. And it would have
taken it down to an eight. A lot of rating justification
going on right now. Yeah. So it doesn't cancel
yours out. It like the personal score gets averaged
all the numbers together like. regardless but
because the one through ten numbers are like
are different like it has to be a solid number
it can't be like eight and a half or whatever
anyway all right going through these categories
real quick starting off with story we started
off not so great at a 70 .67 Damn. Writing got
a little bit of a bump sitting at an 80. Acting
got a few points bump from that and is sitting
at an 85 .67. Character development took a bit
of a dive sitting at a 72 .33. The effects are
our highest category sitting at a 91 .67. Music
is sitting at a 5 out of 10. The costumes is
sitting at a 9 out of 10. And our personal scores
ended up averaging out to a 77. So with that,
the final All Bros and Untrained Eye letter grade
for Captain America Brave New World has come
out to a... C+. I can dig it. Yeah, me too. Yeah,
I don't hate it. Isn't that what Minecraft got
too? Oh, no, that can't be right. I got to imagine.
Wait, I listened to it. Wait, what did you guys
rate effects? That had to have been a 10, right?
We scored pretty high on the Minecraft's effects.
Yeah. We gave that a 91. Oh, you know what's
funny? I forgot all of it because I forget that
that episode got cut off at the end and you and
the editor finished it. Yeah. Honestly, I forgot
all the things. All I heard was, I love you,
Dad. I'm going to be just like you when I grow
up. I was like, damn it, son. This guy's out
here living the dream. I got to say it's pretty
great. All right. So this is sitting at a seventy
nine point six six percent. So this is one of
our highest C plus movies. All right. Like one
of it's not below very, very much, but it is
above quite a bit. All right. So you want to
hear what it's above or what's below first? Below.
What is below? Yeah. All right. So first up,
it is below and just barely 0 .02 % difference.
It's below The Croods and New Age. Okay. It is
below Furiosa. Wow. Okay. And then we get into
the B minus category. It is below Dear Evan Hansen.
Never heard of it. All right, it's below 1993's
Super Mario Bros. Okay. It's below Top Gun. And
it is below Dune. Okay. All right, going the
opposite direction. It is sitting above Aladdin,
the remake. Fair. How did Aladdin the remake
get so high? Music. Yeah, music went a long way.
It does, dude. The music and costumes can freaking
make and break. And I think we gave music and
costumes pretty high on that. Yeah, that tracks
because that movie was not that good. But yeah,
music and costumes were very good. Yeah. Let's
see. It is above 2021's Mortal Kombat. Yeah.
Yeah. It is above Hocus Pocus 2. Yeah, definitely.
And it is above a Minecraft movie. Honestly,
dude, I think this had the same issues where
the story wasn't very good. but the effects and
everything else, like we're, we're decent. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So that's where that's
sitting within the MCU though. It is. Damn. Just
say, Whoa, just start from like, two or three
below it and then work your way up uh i wish
i could it only has one below it oops oh no oops
and it's not the right one oh no it's i don't
know how in the ever -living bejesus this ended
up scoring higher Start from like five above
it and then go down. Five above it? Yeah. Just
go down for five. All right. So starting off
five above, it's Spider -Man Homecoming. Okay.
Then Avengers Age of Ultron. All right. Not too
bad company so far. Thor Ragnarok. I like Thor
Ragnarok, so we're good. Ant -Man and the Wasp,
Quantumania. Wow. It's almost like something
I said earlier is coming to fruition. The Marvels.
Huh. Interesting. Thor 11 Thunder. Wowzers. Wow.
What the hell is wrong with us? And then Captain
America Brave New World. Wow. Wait, what was
number zero? Ant -Man and the Wasp. Wow. Really?
That was worse for you guys? than the other ones
we just talked about. I think there is a lot
wrong with Ant -Man and the Wasp. More than Quantumania?
Yeah. If I remember right, I think Ant -Man and
the Wasp is one where we had people chime in,
and I think they hated the movie. I did not hate
that movie. I liked that. I remember liking that
movie. Same here. Yeah, that might be one we
have to re -explore. That and Love and Thunder.
P .S. Love and Thunder, I think... Oh, no, Vic
was on that one with us. Wasn't he? I think he
was. Someone was on Love and Thunder with us.
Listen, it might have been me, because I was
not a huge fan of that movie. I could be convinced
on why that is a better movie than it is, but...
What, Love and Thunder? yeah no that movie was
ass yeah okay you guys were saying it i thought
you were saying like no this no no it needs love
and thunder needs to be below new world yeah
yeah there you go i'm i more agree i would honestly
switch ant -man and the wasp and thor love and
thunder like i oh i agree yeah it should be at
the bottom Because it wasn't Ghost. Wasn't that
the first time we saw Ghost was in Ant -Man and
the Wasp? Yeah, I like that character. I like
that. I remember that movie being good. Yeah.
So go like working our way up because we haven't
done all the MCU yet. Like we still have to go
back and do like a lot of phase one and phase
two. But yeah, going from bottom up, it's Ant
-Man and the Wasp. Brave New World, Love and
Thunder, Marvel, or The Marvels, Quantumania,
Thor Ragnarok, Age of Ultron, Spider -Man Homecoming,
Captain Marvel, then the updated score for Spider
-Man Far From Home. Then Black Panther, the original
Spider -Man Far From Home. Vic, if you're still
out there, I love you. Can't wait to do that
again. Then Black Widow, The Avengers, Doctor
Strange, Multiverse of Madness. Then what you
and yours and Vic score for Spider -Man Far From
Home. Then Shang -Chi, Guardians Volume 2, Eternals,
Wakanda Forever, infinity war end game deadpool
and wolverine then guardians volume three and
then spider -man no way home yeah i kind of disagree
with that list too because like from what the
top like i feel like end game probably should
be number one right like that seems more correct
like only because like i feel like end game Endgame
and... Why can't I say? What was the other one?
Why can't I say it? You just said it. Infinity
War. Jesus Christ. Endgame and Infinity War.
I feel like those almost should be extra biblical.
They were such a culmination of everything that
happened. Those almost need to be... We're just
going to deify those and hang them up in the
rafters and just say they are the... the pinnacle
of marvel movies because there's they're never
that by the way that's why james gunn is not
trying to do it like marvel like but we'll pay
it off years down the road it'll never happen
like that ever again ever again so there's no
use in even trying to do it well you got to remember
too like yes infinity war and end game are the
culmination of what was it like 10 15 almost
20 years of movies but we grade these individually
so what like well endgame yes had great story
great writing great acting the character development
wasn't quite there without without trying to
pull in from other movies so that's where it
took a dip and then it was the music wasn't like
a 10 out of 10 i'm not arguing the that so much
as i'm like the the reason i think those should
be judged on a different scale almost is because
they are like yeah there's no there's not a lot
of character arc because we just spent 15 years
we just did a 15 year arc to get them to that
point which i think makes those movies a little
different than the other ones But I'm not, I'm
not, listen, I'm not dying on this hill. It's
after midnight. I gotta be up at five. Fair enough.
Anyway. So anyway, that's where it's, that's
where it's sitting. It's in at a, as C plus with,
with the future of some reassessments happening.
Quite possibly. We'll see how it goes. One of
these days we're going to get off our ass and
try and do all of freaking phase one. Yeah. Yeah,
we really got to freaking hunker down and actually
do that shit. Yeah. Listen, I don't remember
if I even heard Iron Man on that list. I am always
looking for another excuse to watch OG Iron Man
again. So, dude, let's do it. Do we have anything?
Maybe not next week. Do we have a movie for next
week? I don't think we did. I think Snow White
was on the table, but we decided that it didn't
reach the goal that we set. I told Caleb that
it's okay to wait until Disney+. What do you
mean? They made almost almost got to 100 million.
What's the deal? No. So our thing was that we
would break down Snow White if it got over 45
million dollars opening weekend. It only got
43. That's hilarious. That is hilarious. Oh,
lady, come on. Just. be happy you're wasn't she
in something good too like hunger games or something
no she was in uh shazam is that right yeah yeah
she was yeah yeah well yeah but shazam fury of
the gods wasn't that good though yeah but it's
not because she was running her dumb mouth about
stuff that no one cares like why I just want
everyone to know that just because I'm not Shazam
doesn't mean I can't Shazam. I'm a strong lady
who likes to do strong lady things, and I don't
need no Shazam to help me. Okay? You just remember
that. The end. That's the end of my statement.
Yeah. i don't know there she's just yeah she's
been very off -putting about snow white and it's
just she like freaking disses on the source material
too like i think that's a big problem she's yeah
dude the direction that they take the prince
character i'm just like what the fuck is this
like no the way that they like like i did not
hate her performance of snow what i really didn't
it was like it was all right but just the way
that they take certain character arcs i'm just
like what the hell is this like i told caleb
and i'm sure you heard from the minecraft episode
dj literally the only part that i just had a
smile on my face where was their rendition of
hi -ho which to me is just fucking phenomenal
it's it's amazing um it's a great updated version
of it and uh the the visuals in that are great
And I will admit when she did Whistle While You
Work, she was really good in that one. The dwarves
were great. And that was actually a really good
change to me from the original animated movie
because in that one, Whistle While You Work,
she sings when her and the animals are cleaning
the cottage, whereas in this one, it's her cleaning
the cottage with the dwarves. So I actually liked
that change. It worked. Yeah, I mean, listen,
she is the Jonathan Majors of her time. Like,
just don't, just don't, like, just don't, like.
be a good actor and then stay away from everybody.
Like I, cause I thought she was fine. I w I told
you, I watched Y2K. Like I thought that movie
was fine. I thought she was fine in it. Like
I didn't have a, I wasn't like, Oh, this lady's
in it and I don't like it now. Like she was fine.
She was great. Uh, just don't just don't. just
tell your friends your dumb ideas or, you know,
have a podcast and, you know, talk shit about
people you don't know, like me. All right. Well,
before we get on another side track, DJ, would
you like to tell everyone where they could find
you once you get rolling again? uh for now you
can find me at my house chilling uh you know
if you want to i don't know if you want to say
hello to me on the internet i'm at untrained
eye everywhere that's e -y -e uh x find me there
i'm out there uh i don't know i don't know what
people do on x these days i don't go on there
anymore but i'm there i get notifications still
Instagram. I don't know, man. I don't listen.
I don't know if the show's ever coming back guys,
but I would like it to, but I don't know if it's,
you might have to start putting and DJ. Man.
Yeah. Well, if we could take a break and come
back from it, you sure as hell can. Listen, I'm
not disputing that. I love it. Why do you think
I'm here? Why do you think I still have this
mic set up, my board and everything? Like, after
how long? It's been like two years since we recorded
an episode. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe soon. Maybe
sooner than later. The untrained eye. Keep an
eye out. Listen to old episodes. By the way,
I will say this. I don't know if it's because
of you guys or not, but I checked the numbers
recently, which I haven't looked at in probably
like over a year. Uh, and like last month there
were like 300 downloads. It's like, well, where
did this come from? Uh, so maybe there is, maybe
there's still interest out there after all. Hey,
listen, I'll tell everyone listening right now,
go and listen to the show, leave some Spotify
comments, and I will convince my lovely wife,
Bethany to do the show with me again. And by
that, I mean, I will actually take the initiative
to be like, come on, let's go record something.
I'm usually the one that's like, ah, but what
if we were sitting though? Recording. But clearly
I love it. We're three hours deep. All right.
I'm sorry. That's enough. Find me there. All
right, and if you like this episode, be sure
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we have plenty of episodes where DJ and his lovely
wife, Beth, have joined us. Actually, she's been
on, like, what, two? No, she... Yeah, it was
maybe three, because we did that Kumail movie,
whatever that one was. She did the Wild Willoughbys.
Yeah, that's right. And then Barbie. Barbie she
did by herself, though. I think the Willoughby's
one she did by herself, too. Did she? I don't
know. I have to go back and listen to that one.
I do remember her being on that one, though,
because I don't think she liked it. Neither her
or Rose liked it as much as I did. I don't know
if that's true. Cause I, she still quotes that
movie to this very, no, I think it was that you
and Beth like did a way more than I did. I think
that's what it was. All right. Well, now I have
an excuse to go back and listen to that one.
Yeah. Yeah. We're on all social media. Just search
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is to be determined. Yeah. So once we find a
movie to do, you'll know what we do. You'll be
as surprised by next week as we are. Yeah. But
until then, this has been the All Bros podcast
featuring the hope that still lies within the
untrained eye not being dead. You never know.
Could rise from the dead. Easter's right around
the corner, you know? Yeah. We will catch you
guys next week. Deuces. See ya. Bye -bye.