What is up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast, we got a couple of weekly watches that me and Caleb want
to go over.
And then right after we're going to jump right into our headliner of the evening, which
will be our breakdown of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
Hell yeah.
Now we are we are going to prove this week whether Beetlejuice is real or not with how
frequently we're going to be saying his name today.
Yes.
You know, I know Tim Burton said that, you know, it took 35 years to get this movie made.
So he doesn't see a third one happening.
But it would just be so perfect to have that trilogy.
Just Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
Yeah.
He's not here.
We're good.
Yeah.
But dude, like I'm still of that mindset.
They should just have the three different covers.
Or like if they do like the box set three movies only but have a box set and each one
just says Beetlejuice on it.
And like it's it's like the I don't even know like what that design is like that thing,
the border around it.
Like you know, like the shape that's kind of around.
Oh yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
The crest or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah.
They should have the crest and each box hat like creates part of that that that crest.
So it's just Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and they all just say one time and it just
builds that little crest.
That would be the shit, dude.
Yeah, that'd be freaking awesome.
Oh, man.
But we're getting ahead of ourselves here.
Let's talk about the sequel before we talk about the third.
If because even though there probably won't be a third, but we can dream, right?
Yeah.
But Caleb, what do you say we get started?
Say let's do it.
Mean motivation.
Angry Dad podcast.
Trying to jump start your life.
Angry Dad podcast.
You want help getting off the couch.
Angry Dad podcast.
You need a verbal kick in the ass.
Angry Dad podcast.
You want to hear from somebody who's been through it all.
Angry Dad podcast.
I am here for you.
You can find me on all podcast platforms.
All right.
So jumping right into weekly watches, Caleb and I did watch a couple of movies and we're
excited to talk to you about them.
I feel Caleb's are like a little more.
I feel he has more to say about them because the one that I watched like I've watched this
so many times, I think I've watched or not watched.
I think I've talked about it on the podcast and so like I don't have a lot to say about
it.
So yeah.
But starting with weekly watches, I forget who I'm we're starting with me.
I couldn't remember.
You created the freaking PowerPoint.
I forgot that I put me first.
I'm sorry.
So for me, the only weekly watch I got since it was added to Netflix and I will take any
chance I get to watch this movie because I love it.
And that is Paul Blart Mall Cop.
The best Kevin James movie in my opinion.
We don't talk about the sequel.
The sequel does not exist.
The sequel is a big piece of dog shit.
This first one though is great.
I love this movie.
Kevin James is freaking at the top of his game when it comes to comedy.
I'm like hyping this movie so up so much as like one of the greatest comedies and I'm
sure there's a lot of people that hate it.
Probably but you know what?
This movie's the shit though, right?
It's like fun.
This is my ideal Thanksgiving movie.
Yeah, I like that.
I love that.
I remember, I think Caleb was in on this joke that growing up, me, him and Sammy, we would
always because I feel like we all watch this movie quite a bit.
And so we would always quote it to each other like either in person or through text being
like you know, peanut Blartan jelly.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What's up, man?
So good to hear your voice.
Dude, I still hit my brother up with that every once in a while.
I love it.
Oh man.
Friggin honestly, I'm shocked that Sammy didn't like destroy her DVD when we were younger
for how much she had this on repeat.
Not knocking her.
I don't blame her.
It's such a good movie.
But out of the three of us, she definitely watched it the most.
Sammy, if you're listening to this, I'm not knocking you.
Love you to death.
And I can understand why you love this movie.
Maybe a little bit more than I do, but just as much.
She was freaking cycling between this and freaking Rio.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
It's too bad that both of the sequels for those movies weren't that good.
Oh man, dude.
I know.
And I watched.
Does Rio have a third?
No, there's only two.
Only the two.
Okay.
Then yeah, I watched the sequel to that and it was freaking horrible.
Yeah.
It sucks that both first movies are really good and then the sequels just suck.
Yeah.
I think Mall Cop 2 sucks more than Rio 2.
Oh yeah.
But both still aren't good sequels.
Yeah.
Dude, Paul Blart was a one off.
It needed to be a one off.
Oh yeah.
100%.
Paul Wood got greedy.
Oh yeah.
Do they under...
This is something I would genuinely want to ask a producer or whatever.
It's just like, do you guys just see something that's somewhat successful that people like
and you're just like, yes, more of that or are you just like, do you guys go and see
the movies and get a feel like, oh, hey, this one feels like it only needed to be one?
It's funny you say that because when the first Dumb and Dumber came out, the cast and crew
were shocked that a sequel wasn't green lit immediately.
And then years passed and I think it was a couple of years before Dumb and Dumber 2 came
out, Jim Carrey calls Jeff Daniels and he's just like, hey, I just rewatched Dumb and
Dumber for the first time in years.
I think I want to revisit those characters with you.
And so they call the Fairly Brothers.
They all decide that they want to do a Dumb and Dumber 2.
When they take it to Warner Brothers, the idea, the script, everything, Warner Brothers
said that it had way too many callbacks to the original.
And they said it felt too much like a Dumb and Dumber sequel.
That's kind of how it came across.
Dude, that is so freaking stupid.
Yeah, it's like no shit, Sherlock.
But so they shopped it around.
They found funding in Universal and Red Granite, which oh my God, don't get me into freaking
Red Granite and like the stolen money with that studio and how the founder of that company
is actually still on the run from laundering money from many people.
So yeah, I think half of the money that was used to make Dumb and Dumber 2 was stolen
money.
Yeah, dude.
Shit.
Send back to mall copy.
Yeah.
And you know what?
It wasn't even a good sequel.
Like you didn't even get a good sequel out of it.
It sucks.
Yeah.
Dude, studios just need to understand that not all stories require more than one movie.
Yeah.
Paul Blart is a one off.
It should have always been a one off.
There's some movies that I feel like you just like that only need like two.
Like there I can't think of any outside my head, but it's just like there's always a
case.
Know when your story is done.
Paul Blart story done.
Yeah.
Oh, I hate that the second one undoes his happy ending.
Oh my gosh, dude.
I was so pissed.
Yeah.
Frickin I loved seeing an underdog actually get a happy ending.
That was so nice.
And then they just frickin ruined it in the sequel.
Yeah, dude.
That's the frickin that's the issue you run into all the time with movies that stay there.
Welcome a little too long in terms of like sequels like you you frickin butcher a perfect
ending.
Yeah.
Like Quentin Quentin Tarantino he's like refuses to watch the fourth one.
The fourth Toy Story because he's just like yeah.
His interview was hilarious.
He's just like you want to talk about perfect seat or perfect trilogies.
Toy Story has a perfect trilogy and and he says I know that they made a fourth.
I refuse to watch it like you.
Your story has come and it has gone like you do not need to add anything else to it.
And I'm like dude frickin bingo.
Yeah, he's not wrong.
He's someone I would love to talk with.
Oh dude same here.
I would love to pick Tarantino's mind.
That'd be so much fun.
Oh yeah.
I wouldn't have I wouldn't have dick all to say about like the the the nitty-gritty details
of like oh what what film you use to shoot this with or like when they're talking like
17 millimeter remember I'm like dude what but no like talking story structure and all
that I could get into that for days.
Yeah, that would really be fun though.
That'd be so down with him.
I love the behind the scenes of his stuff and he's just like or when I love what he's
just like why are we doing this because we love making movies.
I'm like yeah.
Anyway, but yeah Mall Cop can't say good enough good about it.
If you haven't seen it go check it out.
I give it a stream of recommendation and you can do so right now on Netflix can also stream
the sequel but don't do that.
Do not do that.
Please don't.
That's the last time that I will talk about that sequel.
They don't need to be encouraged.
No, no they do not.
Oh man dude next thing you know we're gonna get like a freaking Paul Blart like like drama
series.
Oh please no just no.
Kevin James is a good actor but just no please no.
Man all right we want original content people good original content.
Exactly.
All right is that the only thing you had or yeah that's it what you got Caleb.
All right so I recently watched Mad Max Fury Road for the first time ever and I this is
one that I was holding on to for a long time for a long time and I was I was holding on
to it because I was just like I want to watch it like the best possible way I was I was
planning on watching it in VR like I had a whole freaking thing down but my my headset
is is outdated now so everything's like running super freaking slow on it.
Like I so I attempted to watch this on VR and the freaking meta wouldn't let me because
they were just like yeah like this is out of date and I'm like yeah but if I sit really
still like could you still play it and they're like nope and I'm like great.
So so yeah I attempted to watch it on VR and I realized that that wasn't going to happen.
I'm not going to be getting a Quest 3 anytime soon until it becomes a little bit more for
me.
It's like a little bit more affordable.
That's very expensive.
Yeah that's like a whole new freaking console but anyway I I saw that Furiosa was on Max
and I really wanted to watch Furiosa so I was like screw it.
I call I talked to my brother and I was like do I need to watch Fury Road to understand
Furiosa and he's like it's better if you do and I'm like damn it.
So I watched Fury Road and I am so bummed.
If I knew what this movie was I would have waited for the three.
This looked so freaking cool and I'm like I I wish I was at an IMAX theater right now.
This would be rocking my world but right now I have it with freaking subtitles on and the
lowest like possible setting that I can still like hear the dialogue because I'm watching
this with a sleeping child and mistakes were made dude but I this was a really good movie.
The story the story itself is is basic.
It's very basic and I think that works in its favor because of all of the crazy action
and shit that's going on.
Like this is this is a movie that would take a hit in story and probably character development
but everything else I feel would freaking be killer.
But yeah I think I had a great time with this movie.
It's freaking it keeps you in the heart of the action gives you a little bit of time
to like to breathe and then gets right back into the action and I'm like I am here for
it.
So I big fan big fan and I'm so pumped to finish Furiosa.
So yeah with that because I wish that I would have seen this in on the big screen.
I'm giving this a five dollar Tuesday because I would absolutely go pay to see this on the
big screen.
It's just it's just shy of full price though.
It's just shy.
I will say that because I remember I think this movie came out like shortly after age
Voltron didn't leaders and this was one of the best 3D experiences I've ever seen.
You saw it in 3D.
It was gorgeous.
Man I'm so freaking jealous.
I do I felt I would have invited you but you were in.
Shit where were you living when you were down here.
Like what year did this come out.
Twenty fifteen.
Weren't you living in Ogden.
I was probably living in Ogden.
Yeah this was this was pretty all bros.
So yeah man do I honestly I could have like we should have like planned a weekend or something
for like for a meetup and saw this together.
Damn it.
I'm sorry man.
Dude this is exactly why the podcast is born to freaking keep shit like that from happening.
It's true.
Freaking I remember when the this came out on you know physical and the because this
was like back when they didn't they took pre-order seriously at Best Buy.
I mean they don't do physical media anymore.
But back then pre-orders weren't like as like I guess like locked in as they are now or
used to be like a year or so ago because I remember overhearing someone while I was at
Best Buy the day that this came out because I wasn't picking this up.
I was picking up something else and they said yeah the the Fury Road seal book sold out
so fast and people wanted so bad that if people hadn't picked up their pre-orders of the steelbook
before like noon or two they were actually canceling their orders taking their pre-order
sticker off of it and selling it to someone that was already there.
Dude.
Yeah talk about some shady shit.
Right.
Yeah I was like so pissed.
Oh I'll be too.
Yeah.
It was a beautiful steelbook but like I'm just like that's that's f'd up.
That's super f'd up.
Holy crap.
But yeah so I ended up watching this and like I said just to watch Furiosa and I had such
my family had such bad timing because they were all out doing like doctor stuff and whatnot
and I was I was out sick.
So I was just like well so I had the baby but I made it through the whole movie other
and then got to the last half hour and then they come home and I'm like god damn it and
there was yeah there was a scene that was like very violent and I was like freaking
Iris again hiding behind her tablet and just wide-eyed I'm like god damn it.
So I was like I shoot her into the back room with with my wife and I was like shit.
She's gonna grow up with issues but she handled it she handled it like a champ she was just
like what happened to that guy and I'm like he's sleeping after he got his like jaw ripped
off.
Look I'm just saying I'm glad I'm not the one that's gonna be blamed for her having
her being messed up with you know her uncle showing her horror movies.
I'm just glad that it's not gonna be me.
Oh man dude and trust me if I was there.
Yeah immediately after this just getting into the next movie I watched Beetlejuice because
I was doing a freaking double feature because I wanted to watch this and then I immediately
watched Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
So the scene where Gina Davis is in the is like in the closet and they're trying to like
haunt these people and she's like she looks like she's hanging in the closet and then
she rips off her face and it's just like the skeleton with and then it goes freaking iris
came out to show because I hadn't seen this movie.
So she so I hadn't like I said I have not seen this movie so I I didn't think it was
going to be that I was just like oh Tim Burton like his shit's fun and I turned it on no
problems I don't think Braille's seen Beetlejuice she might have but she didn't I don't think
she was aware but Iris comes out to show me this thing on her tablet and I was like oh
that's cool baby and then she turns around she's like what are you watching and then
that scene comes off and she rips the face off and then Iris no she like stood up she
looked and she's like what was that what was that and I was like uh uh that that was pretend
and she's like okay so I immediately paused it and I was like get out.
She's like sure as hell didn't look like pretend.
Yeah I know and then unfortunately because I did I watched this yesterday the day that
we were recording I woke up with her in our bed because she had a bad dream and I'm like
shit.
So I need to be very careful about what I need to be better about checking out the parents
guide.
So yeah I uh this movie by the way had a great time with it very fun uh Rose was giving it
a too much shit last week.
It wasn't that like the opening credits were slow because freaking every movie back then
had like million million hour freaking uh intros but after that like I was in for it
like I freaking loved what they did.
I told him as he was telling me what he thought I actually watched this again before I went
and saw Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and um yeah I was too harsh on it.
It really is good I take it back I take back what I said.
I don't know what I was thinking.
But super good like really freaking good really fun uh yeah a little bit scarier than I thought
it was gonna be but you live and learn.
Yeah dude when they freaking like pull down their like faces to create those like freaking
like long ass faces whatever they're called.
Yeah I always remember seeing those in like Spirit Halloween and shit like that and I'm
just like what the hell is that supposed to be like I'm so confused and like now that
I finally have that clarification like oh okay that makes a lot more sense now.
It's honestly so nice now going into like a Spirit Halloween and you see all this Beetlejuice
shit and you're just like I understand that reference now.
Yeah it's only been what 35 years.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Yeah I am going to be giving this one a stream it I do feel like this one's a little bit
more fun to watch at home.
Can traumatize your kids and all.
Yeah you can traumatize your kids and everything.
But yeah that's all I uh I watched this week.
All right hell yeah.
All right well what do you say we uh jump into our headliner then?
Say let's do it.
All right so before we get into our headliner which will be our breakdown of Beetlejuice
Beetlejuice uh Caleb do you want to let people know how we break down movies on this podcast?
Yeah I realized I had it muted.
Okay.
My bad.
Now you're going to say shit is there something wrong on my side?
Nope that was me.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
Is this enough of a horror movie to warrant lodge or bringing in logic?
This was something I was meaning to bring up to you before.
That is a really good question.
Like would it make more sense to do?
I don't know because I feel Lydia I'm assuming you know we do the character development on
Lydia.
Yeah.
Um I feel though she has a good amount of character development that like you could
grade it.
Yeah okay okay yeah we'll stick with that.
Okay.
Dude these past like two movies have been goofy in turn like because I was like uh or what
did we do last week?
We did um oh shit what did we do?
Oh the crow.
Yeah the crow.
The crow was one where I was like okay because for like horror movies or anything off that
like that I try to like incorporate like the fun background so I was like but this wasn't
really like a horror movie and last week wasn't really a horror movie it was just a really
dark themed movie.
Yeah.
But it was like you said I try to reserve the the the black and white background for
for other shit.
No that's fair.
Anyway um but yeah all right.
So we'll uh we'll yeah we'll stick with character development on this one and yeah.
So if you have not seen Beetlejuice Beetlejuice this is one that can be spoiled.
Yes.
So please do yourself a favor go check this movie out first.
Uh if you don't plan on seeing it you're probably okay to like listen ahead but uh we will be
spoiling the entire freaking movie in our favorite segment that we like to call Reading
with Rose.
All right.
In 2024 Lydia Dietz is the host of a supernatural oh my god talk show.
Screw you.
Uh all right in 2024 Lydia Dietz is the host of a supernatural talk show host talk show.
Oh my god there's no host of it.
Oh my god geez okay.
Ah okay this is gonna this is gonna be a long episode.
All right again from the top in 2024 Lydia Dietz is the host of a supernatural talk show
called Ghost House produced by her boyfriend Rory.
During the taping of a segment Lydia sees visions of the ghost Beetlejuice who haunted
her family 36 years earlier in the audience.
Shortly thereafter Delia Lydia's stepmother shares the news about the death of her father
Charles en route to winter river the further funeral services the surviving Dietz family
pick up Lydia's estranged daughter Astrid from the from the boarding wow from boarding school
not the boarding school just boarding school geez ha following the funeral services Rory
proposes to Lydia in front of the attendees dude I so I went and saw this with my buddy
Ryan I leaned over and I'm just like that has got to be one of the dickest things I've
ever seen someone do in a movie.
Propose to someone on their loved one's funeral day.
Yeah.
That is you are a piece of shit if you do that.
Yeah dude that is just that that is seriously a step I'd say above proposing at someone's
wedding.
Yeah yeah never do either.
Yeah if you do that you will be getting freaking tackled.
Yep 100 percent.
Yeah.
So Rory proposes to Lydia in front of the attendees which she reluctantly accepts causing
Astrid to flee and meet Jeremy Frazier who invites her over prior to the wedding.
Sometime later Astrid discovers a box of items belonging to her father Richard who disappeared
two years earlier in South America and an ad to contact Beetlejuice on Halloween Astrid
learns that Jeremy is actually a ghost seeking her help to restore his life.
The two enter the afterlife at the the two enter the afterlife after Astrid recites an
incantation from the handbook of the recently deceased discovering Jeremy's past as a murderer
Lydia reluctantly calls upon Beetlejuice to help retrieve Astrid.
Beetlejuice agrees but demands that Lydia marry him allowing him to stay in the mortal
world and evade his vengeful ex-wife and murderer Dolores in the afterlife.
Meanwhile Delia conducts a ceremony at Charles's Charles's grave using two live snakes that
bite and kill her.
Dude that shit was freaking hilarious.
Oh yeah her reaction was great like because for a minute I'm just like wait so the snakes
were actually put oh shit okay it's just the way that she like she died.
I'm just like that felt like so theatrical it makes sense for the character so like it
like took me a minute I'm just like oh shit yeah those were actually venomous okay she
actually did die.
Oh gosh.
Alright Lydia consents to the marriage and Beetlejuice and Lydia are transported into
the afterlife train station in an attempt to stop Astrid from boarding the soul train which
transports souls into the beyond.
By reciting the the incantation Astrid was tricked into switching places with Jeremy
in order for him to regain his life.
Astrid notices that one of the station's employees is her father Richard who rescues her and
Lydia while Beetlejuice sends Jeremy to hell.
Hunted by ghost detective Wolf Jackson for bringing Lydia into the afterlife Beetlejuice
agrees to help Delia find Charles if she helps him find Lydia who along with Astrid was ushered
away and returned to winter river by Richard.
At a church in the mortal world Lydia and Astrid arrive as Rory waits at the altar Beetlejuice
with Delia's assistance hijacks the wedding injecting Rory with truce serum to reveal
his intention to marry Lydia for her money and enraged Lydia punches Rory knocking him
out as Beetlejuice prepares to marry Lydia Delores arrives to confront him along with
Wolf and his team using the handbook as a guide Astrid unleashes a sandworm into the
church that eats Delores and Rory while Beetlejuice subdues Wolf by freezing him and his men in
place.
Astrid reveals that Beetlejuice violated the rules of the handbook by bringing bringing
Lydia into the afterlife thwarting the wedding and allowing Lydia to return him to the afterlife.
Afterward Lydia and Astrid reassure Delia of their love for her as she is escorted to
the afterlife by Wolf.
She soon reunites with Charles before boarding the soul train for heaven.
Sometime later Lydia films the final segment of her last episode of Ghost House opting
to spend time with Astrid.
Despite this Lydia continues to have nightmares about Beetlejuice including one in which Astrid
gives birth to Beetlejuice's child.
After a false awakening with a lucid nightmare wherein Beetlejuice lies beside her Lydia looks
at the side of the bed traumatized and alone.
Dude straight up that ending was nuts.
Yeah that you know you know as much as I enjoyed the ending I I honestly I don't know like
the way that I was looking at is I wanted just Astrid and oh my god Lydia.
Yeah thank you to just like rekindle their relationship and they they they do it seems.
It really does look like they do but honestly I would have been fine if it just ended with
them just being together like personally I didn't need to see Astrid get married and
all that stuff like I'm pretty sure that was all fake.
Oh even her getting married.
I yeah I imagine that was all fake.
Yeah I thought like it only started getting fake until once we got to the her birthing
Beetlejuice's baby which oh god oh yeah that was something.
Dude.
Tricky.
I yeah I imagine that that was all fake.
Okay.
Like all of it like I think that was just to like throw us off the scent a little bit.
Yeah.
And then they're just like oh rekindling and doing this and doing that and I was like oh
okay like this is this is sweet and then it got into like the wedding I'm like okay like
weird red flag and then then it started getting weirder and weirder and I was like what the
hell is happening right now and then yeah and then obviously freaking Beetlejuice baby
which is freaking nightmare fuel.
I will say I would have it would have been like a cool cliffhanger if they didn't show
the second sequence where she wakes up and there's no one in bed next to her.
Like imagine if it just ended with Beetlejuice waking up beside her and just saying oh I
had the strangest dream.
Oh my gosh dude that would have been the craziest cliffhanger ever.
Yeah that would have been insane.
Damn it I wish Tim Burton would have done it now.
Yeah.
Oh man.
I would have yeah I would have lost it.
That would have been so cool.
I will say I think the baby like don't wrong it was it was funny and it was gory in that
one scene but I thought the whole baby gag was funnier when Beetlejuice is a therapist
and he's just like oh we you need to bring out your inner child.
Mine's on his way right now and you see Lydia get pregnant and birth his baby right there.
So gross.
I just I just love how he picks him up he's just like everyone says he has my eyes.
I don't think so.
What do you think?
And then he just freaking kicks the kid.
Oh my gosh dude.
It Beetlejuice I love Beetlejuice dude.
Oh same here.
He is so like funny.
For the little screen time that Michael get Michael getting wow Michael Keaton gets in
both movies it's the exact same screen time which I think is awesome.
I love that 17 minutes.
He soaks up every single second and like it's it's a credit to how amazing of an actor he
is.
Oh yeah.
Absolutely.
Did he he slid back into this role just effortlessly like the the second like even before he had
even said any lines where you just kind of see him in the audience like I was like oh
yeah like he captured the vibe.
Yeah.
Like oh so good.
So so good.
Getting into the story dude.
My only problem was the the ex-wife.
I don't feel like she was.
Yeah.
I don't feel like she was totally necessary.
You know what I've seen a lot of people say that that that is a very common complaint.
Yeah.
I can agree with it.
I enjoyed her for the most part.
Her freaking the opening with her when she stapling herself back together.
That was awesome.
That was so cool.
That was badass and freaking tragedy playing by the beat was it the Bee Gees.
Yeah.
That perfect.
So like yeah I get what you're saying.
I can definitely agree with for that for the most part.
And it's like especially like what did you feel.
How did you feel about like the flashback of Beetlejuice explaining what had happened
between those those two.
Dude honestly if it wasn't in a different language I probably wouldn't have liked it
as much.
You know what.
The fact that he narrated it all in freaking Spanish was perfection.
Yeah.
Like it made the scenes like it made something that was like kind of bland and just like
whatever made it so much better than what it could have been.
Yeah.
I thought something freaking happened to like the audio because it like the whole like the
audio changed like it's he was talking normal and then it's like it shifted to like the
like that that weird like the grainy.
Yeah.
And I was like oh shit something break and I was like oh man like and then like when
I saw that that was part of the the the bit I was like I was I was there for it.
It is so well done.
I just love that.
Yeah.
No seriously.
I just love that at the end he he points out that you know like I'm into some crazy shit
but she took the cake with her being in that cold and everything.
Oh that was great.
Oh man.
And I love that we got kind of got to see him before he was dead.
I thought that was a really cool little.
Yeah that was cool.
For a second I didn't think I thought that was actually someone else.
I didn't think it was Michael Keaton for a second.
Yeah it took a second till they till she freaking threw him on the bed.
I was like okay that's Keaton.
But like you know comparing the story for in this to you know like it continuing what
happened in the first one.
I feel this is such a really good continuation.
The characters make complete sense for where they ended up like like Lydia especially her
having her own TV show where she talks to the dead.
Her I just loved seeing how much she like you know struggled with this power that she
has and how it's affected her relationship with Astrid.
Freaking you know she takes it the worst which makes sense but seeing how Delia takes Charles's
death was I'm not going to say it was funny but it was very enjoyable.
In not a bad way to watch how that unfolded throughout the movie.
Dude that was pure Catherine O'Hara magic.
She is the best dude.
Freaking favorite is when like all of a sudden shit what's Rory like he's like carrying boxes
and hears screaming coming from the house.
She's just like shouting no no no there's like what the hell is going on.
I'm capturing the moment that you feel what grief is what this person's death has done
to you and I recommend that you all do it for yourselves as well.
I love when she when she Frick it like call or was talking to Lydia and she's just like
the most horrible thing has happened with me or with your father and she's like he left
you.
Why would you say something so awful.
No he died.
What a horrible thought.
She had the best writing because forget like literally the next scene is her with not Astrid
oh my god Lydia going to see Astrid and she's just like Astrid I'm used I mean this is more
so writing but just the light of how she's just like Astrid usually I'm totally fine
with you ignoring your mother and giving her shit but not today.
You lost your grandpa she lost her dad and I lost my horny handyman dude she is so unhinged
in the best way possible.
Like I loved her in the first one too where she like when she's just like if you don't
let me use this place to express myself I'm going to go nuts and I'm dragging you with
me.
I loved it.
I loved every second of her dude.
I was I could I could watch like five hours of Catherine O'Hara being off the wall unhinged
like seriously like the last one I want to point out is when her and Lydia are sitting
on the front porch of the house and she's just like Lydia's just like you know Astrid
has always blamed me for her dad's death and Dee Lee's just like well you always blamed
me for your mom's and she's like my mom's not dead I just resented you.
I love that interaction between the two of them dude it was so much fun.
I do love it.
Dude Tim Burton had or did he have a pre-existing relationship with Willem Dafoe?
What was that cameo came out of freaking nowhere?
I don't know if he did but like I'm glad that he was in this because like oh my god like
freaking when he's talking about oh it's you know it's so hard being a police chief and
the one lady walks in and she's like you're not a police chief you're an actor and he's
like thanks for keeping me in check you always do.
I love the little callbacks or the little cameos that we got like
like freaking oh shit what's his name I'm totally blanking what's his name?
Once I hear I'm going to be so pissed at myself.
The freaking penguin.
Oh Danny DeVito.
Oh Danny DeVito god damn it.
Dude I yeah seeing him was a treat.
Like I know he wasn't in it that long but just the fact that he was in it all was fantastic.
Oh yeah that was great.
This story was just so so good for a sequel that came after 35 years.
This I feel that so many studios give the green light for legacy sequels even if they
know they are not going to be good.
That they're just going to be a cash grab but I this one was definitely a labor of love.
Tim Burton definitely wanted to make sure that those that loved the original as much
as they did didn't feel let down when it came to the official sequel and I really appreciate
him for that because this is a like I will say I think I you know I've changed my way
of how I feel about the story in the first one you know I like it more than when I first
saw after seeing you second time but I still think I liked the story a little more in this
one like this is this is the rare sequel story that I like it more.
I do too and I think it's because it included more Beetlejuice.
Yeah that's a good point.
Or I guess it felt like it included more I guess it did I'm in everything but everything
was more centered around Beetlejuice.
Yeah because like for the first 20 minutes in the first one you don't even get the name
Beetlejuice hasn't even mentioned whereas not even five minutes in Lydia's having like
these.
I'm not going to say hallucinations because he was actually there but she's she's seeing
the the man that tormented her family and tried to force her to marry force her to marry
him freaking 35 years ago so yeah I appreciate how fast they jump into oh hey you know remember
these characters remember where they came from and this is where we're going off of
and it was just great.
Yeah I am very glad that I watched the first like really close to seeing this one.
I am as well.
Yeah but the story was was solid dude it was super solid.
It was.
It kept subverting my expectations like so this is what I originally thought because
when oh what's her face what's Geno Ortega's character?
Astrid.
Astrid when Astrid crashes into the tree I would have sworn up and down that she was
dead.
Damn I didn't I didn't think she hit that hard.
I I didn't think so either but I felt like it's kind of like what they did with the first
where they just kind of like because I was thinking like okay how the hell is she going
to get into the the the underworld and so I was like okay so something's going to I
my my initial thought going into this because I saw the trailers and whatnot and knew that
Astrid and Lydia were going to be in the underworld I was like okay so something happens and they
die.
So that's kind of what I was expecting and so when she crashed I was like oh shit she's
dead and of course freaking Lydia can see her like I was waiting for someone to not
interact with her.
I was like okay she's like keeping a real close eye out but I was yeah I I was waiting
for someone to not interact with her and I was obviously that didn't happen but I would
have sworn up and down that she was dead but the fact that she wasn't I knew for a fact
that other that kid was like I saw that one coming I didn't see I didn't quite see the
like that's why I thought that she was dead I'm like oh now she sees ghosts like now she's
dead.
Dude I hate that I'm bad at calling this shit out like I used to I usually just like let
the movie play in front of me I don't think about this kind of stuff and so like I feel
stupid for like when something actually like you know like that happens and it's revealed
that you know he was a ghost this whole time and I'm just like Malthur how the hell did
I not freaking click those two together?
Yeah I I try to plan it or I don't know like I kind of have a good grasp of that like because
I don't do it like in the movies or it's hard to explain because it's like I don't I don't
let my expectations or what I think is going to happen affect my enjoyment of the movie.
That's good.
Um but I do like trying to like figure out some twists and so that's like one of the
big twists I was like okay there's got to be like something here that's like crazy and
so that's why I was like okay they're definitely hiding the fact that the because I thought
for the longest time that they were hiding that Astrid was dead because they're they're
not showing the faces of her of his mom and dad so I'm like okay like some they're dead
and it's like very obvious that they're dead.
So like I said I I was expecting something different and then it's like okay well it
makes sense why Lydia would be able to see her but maybe they're just trying to figure
all that shit out and blah blah blah blah blah.
You know speaking of his parents being dead and I I just can't like hell for some reason
what what was in his father's head because I know that the egg beater was stabbed into
his mom's mom's face but could you tell what was in his dad's face what he stabbed into
it.
I have no freaking clue dude it looks like maybe a pizza cutter.
Yeah it kind of did look like that.
But it had like it had something over it.
Yeah.
Like I could I couldn't place it.
I feel like I mean it would have taken some good you know effort but I feel like it would
have been made a lot of sense if he would have like stabbed like the TV remote into him
or something like that.
Yeah but yeah I like I said I couldn't place that for shit.
It looked like a pizza cutter.
I was also thinking that maybe it was like a tiny saw but that wouldn't make sense.
Oh I just thought of something messed up.
I don't think you wait was he what it was just a regular TV right.
It wasn't an antenna TV or was it.
It was it was a box TV.
It's about if it was an antenna TV imagine if he had stabbed his dad's eyes out with the
antennas.
Oh that'd be pretty wild.
Yeah I I'm excited to rewatch this just to like check that part out again just to see
what he got Bushwhacked with.
Yeah let me let me know because because I because I've seen this twice and I still can't
figure out you might be be able to pick it out better than I was able to.
But yeah I really want to know what he was stabbed with annoying me.
Yeah but overall like really good story flow.
Yeah 100.
No no real slow parts even even the bits with like the Beetlejuice's ex-wife.
I don't feel like those were completely necessary to the story but they they didn't slow it
down either.
It was more like oh yeah she's she's in this.
Yeah no it's I mean like the whole like long the whole while dry cleaner scene like you
know like I agree with you.
She didn't need she wasn't necessary in the story.
But that was a very cool scene and especially the freaking lighting like holy shit love
the lighting in that in that.
Yeah that scene.
Yeah but this was really good story wise.
I'm probably at like a solid 90.
Like I felt it was that freaking good.
I'm gonna match you on that.
Hell yeah.
All right moving on over to writing.
This was pretty on par.
Yeah no like seriously.
Like thinking of like specific writing for characters I feel a lot of people think that
the whole like oh the the daughter resents the mother for what what happened.
Shit like that people just oh it's been done to death.
I feel that this time around it was different enough that like I didn't have a problem with
it.
I mean it might be for the fact that one I love Winona Ryder and Jenna Ortega.
Their chemistry is fantastic together and I love the characters of Lydia and Astrid.
So their mother daughter dynamic I felt was great throughout the movie and I actually
enjoyed watching that kind of what many would call basic storyline unfold and I loved when
they actually finally you know when their dad when her dad is talking to them in the
afterlife and saying you know like don't make don't let me be the reason why you guys aren't
talking why you guys are separated.
You guys are better together.
And so you know after that once they you know rekindle their relationship I just love I
loved that.
I know I know it's like been done to death.
This is you know classic thing in movies but this time around it felt original to me.
It felt different.
It felt new and I really really appreciated that.
So kudos to Tim Burton for that.
Yeah dude.
I think what felt different about it is that it was it wasn't some petty bullshit like
their their disconnect felt a bit more reasonable than it's just like it wasn't some like oh
mommy sent me away to school or to some boarding school or whatever.
Like it wasn't something stupid like that.
It was oh she's a fraud because she's never been able to summon or speak to my dad who
died tragically.
And like that felt it felt real.
It's just like yeah like if there's a if like I probably think my mom was full of shit too
if she like claimed all this this shit.
And like there was no real like evidence or proof.
Yeah.
So like it made it made sense like it made sense why their disconnect happened like that.
I was fully expecting some like petty bullshit but what we what we got instead was perfect.
Yeah agreed.
I'm trying to think like and the Beetlejuice was written incredibly well.
Yeah.
We got to point out rest in peace Bob.
He did not deserve that.
Man I'm so pissed about Bob.
That was very sad.
I just love that after you know once Beetlejuice and Lydia enter the afterlife and Beetlejuice
is just like Bob you and the boy stand guard nobody gets through and Bob's just like all
right everybody just get back to work and they all look at each other and just freaking
like burst past him and go to the freaking real world.
So bad for Bob.
Dude Bob got screwed this movie.
He was funny though.
Oh man.
Like I've found him so funny when What's Her Face came in like broke into the office and
then she's like hunting down Beetlejuice and then you just see Bob like cowering under
the table.
Like dude for real though.
Speaking of that scene I love that.
She picks up the employee of the month image of Beetlejuice which I love.
But like after you know she admires it she sees a picture of Lydia and picks it up and
just freaking throws it on the floor.
Oh that was great.
Yeah dude I do genuinely think that they could have gotten rid of the ex-wife had they like
had they given the reason Beetlejuice wanted to get married to Lydia so bad.
Because this I mean it made sense.
It was just like it was just slightly over a little over complicated.
Just like OK so he has to get married to Lydia so Dolores doesn't freaking hunt him down
and like steal his soul and become immortal or something like that.
Which is if Beetlejuice wanted to get married to Lydia because she's alive and then he can
go to the land of the living.
Then it's like OK that tracks.
Yeah I don't know I feel you could have come up with a different storyline that didn't
involve another character that would have still worked with the whole marriage thing
because like it's clear that you know Beetlejuice will take any chance that he gets to marry
Lydia that's without question.
You know he points out to Bob you know long distance relationships are hard you know especially
when one of you is dead and the other one's been ignoring you for over 30 years.
So I think I don't know I think that that could have been rewritten and I think it would
have been better off for it even though I do think Dolores looked really freaking cool.
Yeah she did.
Yeah I love that scene where she was assembling herself.
I'm like dude this feels like an original character.
Like I would love to see her story but I don't think her story fit for Beetlejuice.
You know when that scene started playing out I was thinking of like Bride of Chucky and
how much I would have loved that instead of seeing Tiffany put him together and I know
this wouldn't have worked but like you know like with the whole voodoo thing maybe it
could have.
I don't know but like freaking seeing Chucky have to like staple himself together that
would actually been like really cool to watch.
That would have been super hard to pull off but yeah true.
But like it kind of would have been worse.
Yeah like I said I think writing is pretty on par.
I might put it a little nah no no no.
I'll put it right where I have it with story sitting at a 90.
I think it is really well written.
It's funny.
It's just it needs a little bit of help with the structure just a bit.
Just write out Dolores and you're golden.
Like then you can have like you could still have like Beetlejuice pulling off shenanigans
where Willem Dafoe's character needs to like hunt him down.
Like you could have had all of that shit still in there just write out Dolores because I
don't feel like she was super necessary especially with how quick she freaking ended up getting
bushwhacked.
Yeah and you know I think because of that I think I'm actually gonna go a point lower
than you had in 89.
I'm sorry.
Dipping into the 80s.
Alright moving on to acting which may be the freaking highlight of this movie.
Fair.
Yeah starting off with the man the myth the legend Michael Keaton who plays Beetlejuice.
We got Winona Ryder who plays Lydia Dietz.
So we got Catherine O'Hara who plays Delia Dietz and then Jenna Ortega who plays Lydia
Dietz.
I thought she was Astrid.
Oh shit what.
Alright that was a heat skirt my bad.
Yeah Jenna Ortega plays Astrid Dietz.
Nice catch.
And then we got Justin Theroux who plays Rory.
Willem Dafoe who plays Wolf Jackson.
Monica Bellucci who plays Dolores.
Arthur Conti who plays Jeremy.
Why does he seem so familiar?
I don't know but this is only his second acting gig.
Really?
Yeah.
What else was he in?
Oh House of the Dragon.
Oh there you go.
Okay my wife's been watching that so oh he was only in one episode.
Okay never mind.
I'm freaking dumb.
Okay I guess I don't know what I know him from.
Then we got Santiago Cabrera who plays Richard.
I don't think we got a last name for him.
No.
Yeah whatever Astrid's last name is I guess.
Yeah.
Does she go by Dietz?
I think so considering that when they're picking up from boarding school she says everyone
already knows that my mom is Lydia Dietz.
Okay yeah she's even credited everywhere as Astrid Dietz.
Okay.
All right what's your top three look like?
I assume ours is gonna look very similar.
Yeah I would say so.
This is tough too because there's four freaking big hitters.
Oh yeah number one Michael Keaton Beetlejuiced.
Absolutely.
He was phenomenal.
35 years later and this man didn't miss one beat returning to this character.
It's like he never left.
Oh yeah.
Yeah wow.
I love when he activates his Michael voice.
When he starts to get real serious and starts like talking calm sounds like himself and
then just slowly gets a little bit more and more and then more and more and more unhinged
and then goes back to Beetlejuice.
I'm like yeah this is some freaking master class acting right here.
Oh it's so so good.
Number two I would actually give to Winona Ryder.
Okay I loved her as Lydia.
I mean I loved her in the first one as Lydia but this one just I loved her more.
I loved seeing one you know where she has come or how far she's come as a character
seeing her struggles with Astrid how she's dealing with Charles' death everything with
Rory everything with oh my god Delia.
Just yeah I loved her this time around even more.
So yeah number two I would give to Winona Ryder.
Just getting a character that was originally like super kind of annoying and angsty to
like mature is something else.
Yeah.
Like she felt like a lot more relatable than her just like doom and gloom self and in the
first but she was like what 15.
Yes yeah.
Yeah so it's like it makes sense.
Yeah.
Number three.
Number three is so freaking hard because like I can't decide between who gets three and
who gets four out of these two.
I think just because she's just so much fun to watch on screen.
I think number three I'm going to give to Catherine O'Hara.
She's just so much fun so much fun to watch.
Like Jenna Ortega she is like honestly you know what I would say it's a coin flip between
these two for number three.
I love them probably both about the same but like if I really had to choose like maybe
just Catherine O'Hara just a little bit more for how like bat shit crazy she has to get
into this.
She has to be with this character like how out there Delia is and I love it so much.
She's fantastic in this role and I feel that she freaking like took it to the next level
in this one compared to the first one.
She was fantastic in Beetlejuice but I feel like she was even more zany in this one which
I absolutely loved.
Dude have you watched her in Schitt's Creek.
I've not.
You need to.
Yeah okay.
There is a level of like she keeps and maintains this level of unhinged that entire series.
Really okay.
And it is it is so funny.
She is she makes that move or that show.
Okay.
Like everyone does like everyone does so well in that show but I love her character of Moira
so much.
And honestly if I were you and dating I would have something like that in my like just something
mentioning like you could be a rose like Schitt's Creek.
Oh my god.
Like as a selling point because like they're so cool.
Okay.
Her character is I love her character because she's like a super eccentric actress.
Like she never pronounces anything right.
And it like it's a it's an issue but it's it's so so funny.
Okay.
But yeah my number one Michael Keaton duh.
My number two I'm actually given to Catherine O'Hara.
Okay.
She found so much enjoyment when she was on screen and dude which like I I was already
like loving her when she died.
I loved her more.
I love what she's talking to.
Why do I keep forgetting her name.
Oh my god.
Lydia Lydia.
Why do I keep forgetting Lydia's name when you know Lydia's just like oh I'm gonna miss
you Deeley.
She's like no no you're not.
Tell you tell you what I'm gonna get with Charles and we're gonna both gonna haunt your
ass.
Dude I love that her selling point for going was when Astrid said like you know your work's
gonna go up crazy in value.
And she's like oh like okay.
She's not wrong.
I mean if you guys listen to the Gacy Gazette couple up like yeah the last episode we released
I mentioned how much a original POGO the clown painting goes to Caleb 30 grand.
That's how much you're gonna be paying.
So yeah Deeley is gonna be making out like a bandit I'm sure when it comes to her artwork.
Yeah.
Too bad she doesn't have any need for that though.
That's true.
Okay.
But the Astrid and oh my god Lydia Lydia are gonna be making out like bandits with the
residuals from her paintings.
Why do I keep forgetting Lydia's goddamn name.
The hell is wrong with me.
I feel you.
I freaking feel you.
My number three again this is this is a coin flip.
Two three and four could honestly be swapped any given day.
Like Michael Keaton is non-negotiable number one.
Two three and four are very negotiable.
But yeah I'm giving my number three to Jenna Ortega.
I loved her character and just how goofy she was like her for a frickin first line out
the door when those frickin bitchy girls try to scare her and she's just like yeah when
you're three kids second divorce like we'll see who's laughing.
I'm like damn you went straight for the throat.
That was so good.
Yeah and oh my gosh like I loved her.
I freaking love Jenna Ortega dude.
Her interactions especially with what was her name Rory right.
Yeah.
Were amazing like when she approaches her at the funeral he's like if you ever just
want to you know talk about your grief or trauma and you know like help get over it
like I'm here for you and she just like belches like all right I'm over it.
Dude her sass is next level.
It's it's so good.
Freaking I love when I don't know if you've seen the interview but they ask so it's Winona
Ryder Katherine O'Hara and Jenna Ortega and they asked them like oh so why did it take
so long for Beetlejuice sequels we made and Winona Ryder without hesitation says oh we
were waiting for Jenna Ortega to be born.
Perfect answer.
Yeah no like seriously I'm really glad that Tim Burton started with working with her for
Wednesday and oh dude she could not have been cast more perfectly than she was for Wednesday
Adams agreed I cannot wait for season two I'm so excited.
So pumped.
I'm so pumped.
Oh man but yeah my number four is going to winona Ryder and this is nothing again nothing
against her.
This could be flip flopped any given day.
I loved her character way more than I liked her in the first.
She was so annoying in the first.
But like I can't stand like those overly dramatic goth kids.
Well I'm sorry to tell you man I was one so.
That is a load of shit.
Yeah it is.
Dude even Briel claims that she had a goth phase and I'm like no you didn't.
Not to the level that I feel like you could have.
Dude I think I only owned like one black shirt growing up.
I know.
All my frickin dark colored shirts were my dad's work shirts.
And I own more of my dad's work shirts than I did any other article of clothing.
Yeah it was always funny seeing him show up to school with his dad's logo just plastered
over his shirt.
Yeah.
Like I had that and I had plain t-shirts and that was it.
I mean you had a lot of superhero shirts didn't you?
That is true like once I started getting my own money yeah.
Yeah it was like it was plain t-shirts flannels and work shirts for my dad's company.
Like there was no there was nothing else in my wardrobe.
Yeah Caleb was known for the flannels I remember that.
Yep.
I didn't even like I didn't have like typical like I didn't have like standard wardrobe
stuff or like I'm wearing this weird or I didn't have phases.
I didn't like I never had a goth phase.
I never had like I did I never had like these these phases.
The closest thing to a phase that I had was I remember my I forget who is either my grandma
or my aunt.
My money's on my aunt but she bought like a freaking puka shell necklace that I tried
wearing but it kept yanking the hair out on the back of my neck and I was like man forget
that shit.
See I feel bad like I didn't have a phase either but like I feel bad that like whenever
someone offers me would like offer something offer something me like that like you know
a necklace or anything to put around my neck.
I wish I could respectfully say no I'll take it but I wish I could because I hate anything
around my neck.
I hate anything rubbing around my neck besides a t-shirt.
Oh it'll drive you up a wall dude.
It will drive you up a wall.
Like I'm so grateful that I you know I wear an apron at work but I get to wear like you
know the button up collared shirt so that goes under and that can you know tuck right
under so I'm not feeling it on my neck whereas you know other people are just wearing plain
t-shirts and the apron has to touch their neck and I'm just like oh my god hell no.
No can't do it.
Yeah no thanks.
Hell I could barely stand.
I have to wear like ear like those foam earplugs and they have like the ones with the freaking
connecting string and shit and so when I take them off I can pull them out and then they
hang around my neck for a little while.
I can't freaking stand that shit when I have to do that.
Glad I'm not the only one.
Yeah it something about touching my I hate when shit touches my neck.
I hate it.
Add that to the reason why add that to the reasons why we really are meant to be best
friends.
Yeah dude it's like it's like now like that we have that bit of information about each
other if it ever is like oh something happened and like the other like hung themselves.
No they didn't.
No they did not.
Like don't bullshit me how did they actually die like come on you're sugarcoating it aren't
you?
It's like you're telling me that's how you found him.
Yeah someone murdered him.
Oh my god.
Yeah that's a murder.
That's a murder right there.
Oh man are you kidding me.
There's like a bunch of routes that I'm like I could believe but now knowing that you don't
like if you don't like shit as much as I don't like shit around my neck yeah like that's
the that's like the last thing on your freaking list.
No he didn't.
Like I promise you he didn't.
Oh man.
Oh shit.
Alright where you sitting with your acting score?
Acting is pretty damn high.
Acting I think I'm gonna go just because I loved everybody in this movie.
Okay well no because like the actress was good for Dolores like you know like I didn't
love the writing for her.
Hey she just wasn't in it all that much.
Yeah so I think acting I think I'm gonna be at a 94.
I am a couple points below at a 92.
Right I still think everyone did a fantastic job.
Yeah I think if I'm talking for anything it's probably for Dolores and maybe an extra here
and there.
That's fair.
Alright moving on over to character development.
What are you thinking?
Lydia Dietz.
You know I pretty much we both can probably agree that she was a kind of an annoying teenager
in the first one.
Oh yeah.
But you know what it made sense for her character.
It makes sense for her age you know even though Caleb and I never went through this phase
and even though his wife Brielle claims that she did.
Yeah big ass freaking air quotes there dude.
Like she shows me pictures and she I'm like okay where like she's like oh yeah this was
my goth phase and I'm like your hair is just slightly darker than it is now and I'm like
you're not even wearing dark clothes like your jackets brown.
And you got freaking like ankle high like neon socks like that's not goth.
I've seen this there's this guy on TikTok that will like recreate how he how he was
an edgy teenager.
Or sorry they were a an edgy teenager.
I believe that those are their pronouns.
But they they always showcase like the actual footage of them back then at the end and it's
so great.
But like for one his mom is or their mom is like giving them a hard time and they're they're
like they're about to like leave and like go take a walk and just like listen to like
edgy music like you know like Lonely Road.
And the mom's just like oh you know take an umbrella you'll you'll catch you'll catch
your death.
And they're just like well good I hope that I catch my death because you're ruining my
life.
It's it's so funny.
Dude I I don't know if I could ever like if my kids mouthed it off to me like that I don't
know if I'd be able to take them seriously.
Like I would just like iris is like God Dad you don't understand me at all.
Yeah that's like that would be something like if my kid with a straight face told me that
you're ruining my life like because I want them to like wear an umbrella or wear a raincoat
or something I'd freaking push them out of the house and I'm like fine get wet yawnery
bitch.
That might that actually that might be harsh.
I was getting I got myself riled up and I think I took it a little far.
I would like to backtrack that.
I was gonna say dude like even out even if you are super angry I know you would never
call your daughter that.
No like I said I got myself worked up in my mind and I took that a little too far so I
apologize for that.
I promise you I love it loves his daughter he genuinely loves.
I would be more like you on re shit.
It felt intense coming out.
How often does Brielle listen to these does she listen to them at all.
I sure hope not.
I I I would just hope that this is the one episode that she listens to.
Did she see Beetlejuice Beetlejuice with you.
No damn.
Oh she I can't think of the last movie she like watched with with me.
Well or like like you guys went on date night for no not necessarily date night or just
like where she's seen the movie.
Okay.
Like I'm gonna say new movie because I don't feel like alien and aliens counts.
She technically saw Deadpool and Wolverine.
She didn't really pay attention because he's trying to take care of the kids.
Okay.
Quiet Place Day one now Despicable Me 4 she was playing on her phone the whole time.
Family Fair no Garfield movie no if no Inside Out 2 no shit like I'm all the way back at
like Mean Girls.
I couldn't tell you if she's seen these movies.
Damn man Aquaman Lost Kingdom no Wonka no she hasn't seen the marvels.
Is there any movies coming out soon that you can convince her to turn it into a date night.
Dude I don't know.
I thought I could convince her to turn freaking Deadpool and Wolverine into a date night and
we technically did but she didn't like I said she didn't freaking pay attention the entire
time.
What about a Joker fillet ado.
No she hasn't even watched the first Joker.
Damn like there's some movies on this list like I said Alien and Aliens.
She does want to watch Twisters eventually.
I thought you guys did watch that together.
Nope.
Oh okay I don't know if you guys can catch it in theaters together but like I feel that
she would be up for watching the new Alien movie right.
And Romulus.
That's a solid maybe.
I bet she would like she she expresses interest in going to see all like these movies but
she doesn't.
But when like the day comes you're just like oh hey or like the weekend.
Yeah I'm gonna go.
Dude I have invited her to all of these movies.
I'm like hey want to watch Borderlands with me.
No all right.
Hey I need to watch Twisters want to watch.
No I'll catch it when it comes to streaming.
All right.
Hey want to watch.
I know dude.
And like in terms there's only one area in our life that I feel we're pretty incompatible
and it's movies.
Dude because I'll show her a movie and I'm like hey I really think that you would enjoy
this movie and she's like okay cool I will sit down with her to watch it.
I get into the movie.
I always get into the movie like I am freaking invested.
If you're if you're trying to talk have a side conversation with me don't.
Like unless it's like answering quick questions and shit like oh who's that.
Oh pay attention to the movie.
And like that's that's the shit I get or and then she'll like oh I need to pause it.
No.
Like I hate pausing movies.
If I'm into it like if I got background noise like a background noise movie whatever pause
it all day long.
A new movie that I've never seen before.
Now I am locked and I'm like and you better not freaking bother me.
I wish I had the freaking cojones to say that but I just pause it and just like and that's
it that's as far as it goes.
Oh please let Brielle listen to just this one episode.
Oh man.
Yeah like I said.
Content wise in terms of like visual content so movies TV shows anything like along those
lines.
I feel like we're pretty incompatible.
But yeah other than that we're pretty like everything else we like we click on.
It's just that that aspect.
I'm just like whatever I got Rose for that.
There's she's freaking mentioned that she's just like anytime like I've gone to a movie
with you and Rose like I always end up being the third wheel and I'm like yeah because
you don't pay attention to the freaking movie.
And I'm like and then on our way home I want to talk about the movie and you don't because
I'll be like hey what you think.
Oh it was good.
What do you think of this.
Oh I thought that was funny.
Riveting.
Oh Brielle I'm sorry that we made you feel like third wheel.
I'm not freaking.
Give me more input.
Maybe you wouldn't feel like such a third wheel.
You know it's funny speaking of third wheel because it's always you know funny when like
you know like it's like the one person that like you're both going to a certain thing
for and so like you know like going to like a movie or like a sporting event the main
person is always sitting in the middle and then the other company are on either side.
That's exactly how it goes.
Yes.
Just forget like my buddy Ryan for a couple like a couple movies.
I've gone with him and his friend from high school and like literally without question
don't we don't even think about this.
Ryan's in the middle.
I'm on one side and his friends on the other.
It's hilarious.
Dude yeah she doesn't feel bad like she knows that's exactly what I like that I go for.
Yeah.
And I'm like if you like I need to talk about this movie and you'd like you don't like I'll
be talking about the movie like oh I'll think this this this and this and then she's like
cool we need to laundry when we get home.
I don't give a flying shit about laundry right now.
I want to talk about this damn movie or it.
It's the same thing with freaking video games too.
Like dude what am I being she she knows this she knows this and she does it on purpose.
She knows my biggest pet peeve is if I'm watching something or playing something or doing anything
like with the TV she will like where I'm actively paying attention to it.
She will like do stuff where she's standing directly in front of the goddamn TV and all
buying.
Oh dude my blood will freaking boil and I'm like I'll pause it.
I'll pause or I'll pause whatever I'm doing.
I'll just sit there and just like freaking stare daggers into the like I'm trying to
burn a hole through the side of her head and she knows she's just like oh am I in your
way and I'm like what do you think.
She knows it bugs the shit out of me.
She knows.
Like if there's ever going to be I told her if there's ever a reason we're going to get
divorced it's going to be because you stand in front of the TV while I'm watching shit.
Damn.
Oh man love her to death.
Love her to death.
In every other aspect of my life.
When it comes to the content I choose to consume on a TV.
This is exactly.
I've never had a good answer until now.
I was talking this out.
She will get like not upset with me but like anytime I'm watching something like on my
phone she's like you can put it up on TV or like you can do this you can do that like
put it somewhere else like on a TV and I'm like no I'm watching on my phone right now.
You can't step in front of me in the phone.
Oh man.
Never had a good reason to like or a good explanation for why I do that because I've
even caught myself like why don't I watch this on the TV.
Now I know damn well why.
Oh shit.
Anyway character development.
This is one of the more average placements for me.
That's fair.
And like you know it's it's it makes the story very I guess the the character development
the the the direction that Lydia goes it makes sense and yeah I get where you're coming from.
I will say it was very interesting to see how her relationship with Astrid unfolded
and to see if they would rekindle it by the end which I feel we all felt that they would.
I'm going to know I'm really glad that they did.
I'm also very glad that she did not marry Rory thank God.
That was his name right Rory.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Okay.
That freaking tool bag.
Yeah he definitely deserved that punch in the face at the end.
And getting eaten by the sand snake.
Yep.
I love the freaking yeah Bealejuice like just like pulls him right in front of Dolores and
like has him wearing an I love Dolores t-shirt.
That was that was great.
But yeah no you got a point it is kind of like on the basic side.
Yeah I mean it was well done for what they did.
It was just it was it was plain.
Yeah.
And I feel like if you're going to have anything in this movie be plain like yeah make it the
character development.
Yeah.
I agree with that.
So where are you at.
I'd say I'm out of solid 80.
It's actually right where I was sitting too.
Hell yeah.
Look at that.
Or like couple points higher but yeah I was like an 82.
All right.
And I felt I was going to be the nice one.
Yeah I know.
All right.
Next up we got effects.
These were freaking killer.
Yeah these were really good.
Yeah there was there was some that worked better than others.
Like I didn't necessarily care for it like when when what's his face wolf held up the
picture of Dolores and his eyes kind of like like came out of his skull and everything.
Yeah that was that was kind of weird.
Yeah it was it was goofy looking.
You know what I I don't know maybe it was just me but like the first time that actually
when I was second time we see Beetlejuice when Lydia sees him walking out of like the
schoolyard Astrid's school for some reason he looks like CGI to me.
It didn't look like Michael Keaton was there.
Yeah it looks like the same pace.
Yeah that was it.
Okay yeah that was weird.
Yeah there was a few moments like that where I was like okay this is odd but then there
were some that looked really good like with the sand snake.
Yeah that looked really really cool.
Yeah I love that they kept the stop motion look.
Yes I appreciated that a lot.
I love that like in the first one and also in this one I love seeing when you first get
to the afterworld and you're like seeing all the people that are like in the waiting room
and like you get you get to see how they died.
Like the one when Charles comes in and you know they say oh take a number and he sits
down and the surfer they got cut in half just kiss him just like a dude rat.
Rat on.
Oh man or the freaking guy that died from like I guess shoving way too many hot dogs
into his mouth.
Yep.
I really like that one.
The animation that they showed on how Charles died was perfect.
Dude that was so cool like that just like brought me back to like classic claymation
like that was so freaking awesome.
Yeah they handled Charles in the best possible way.
Like yeah knowing that this dude is a freaking pedophile and just didn't done like some horrible
shit and the fact that like it almost was like satisfying in the way that they killed
him.
They're just like yeah oh like yeah there was a plane crash.
Oh my gosh he died in a plane crash.
Oh no he survived the plane crash but and they're like oh my gosh he drowned.
Oh no no no no he was like perfectly fine but some witnesses stated that he got eaten
by a shark.
All right and then you just see like the lower half of Charles the rest of the movie like
they still use his face and is like is that dude dead.
No he's still alive.
He's still alive.
Yeah.
I'd like to know how they got away with using his face on that tombstone then.
Yeah I do too.
But anyway other than that like the way that they handled Charles and everything I felt
was really well done like given the circumstances because obviously you couldn't just write
him out of the movie because then you're everyone's going to be one because he it would make more
sense if it was Catherine O'Hara's character because it's just like oh they got divorced
and she's gone.
But you can't really write Charles out in any way like you can't just write him out
because it's Lydia's father and they had a decent relationship in the first and then
you can't really like just straight up kill him off because this is a movie where you
can travel into the freaking afterlife.
Yeah that's true.
Like this is this is the best possible way that I feel like they could have handled that
character.
I agree 100 percent.
Yeah and it was it was funny like I didn't like usually I think in situations where like
they have to include a character that's a little bit less than PC I think you get a
little icky.
This felt perfectly fine.
Yeah.
Like even when they showed his likeness on the on the tombstone I wasn't like ew or any
like I didn't get that like feeling is more just like all right they've addressed it.
We know he died in a freaking horrible way and all right.
We're good.
Here we go.
You know what the I just thought about this the animation that they have for trials when
the plane is crashing reminded me a lot of it.
Did you watch even Stevens as a kid.
Yes.
The animation in that opening.
Yeah that reminds me a lot.
Yeah that tracks but I was super impressed with the animation.
The animated bits and the effects overall.
No Tim Burton did a really good job with these.
Yeah I would love to see more of that like mixture of live action and and stop motion.
Yeah I would too.
Yeah.
I think I'm personally sitting there like an 86 just because of the issues I did have
actually 86 feels low.
I might go 88.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up we got music.
This was so good.
It was so good.
I didn't think that they could pick a song that matched the dayo vibes but they got it
with that someone left the cake out in the rain bit.
Oh my god.
That was just so amazing.
Dude they killed it.
Oh I love that.
I love that so much.
Dude some people were saying it went on for too long.
I disagree.
I didn't go on long enough.
Yeah I agree.
No no no no like I'm definitely kidding with that one.
They could have they could have definitely had to go on for longer.
It's a seven minute song.
Oh shit.
Yeah that would have been a little too long.
Yeah I think it went on it stopped right before it started feeling like it was going on too
long.
All right yeah I can agree with that.
Like I think like near the end I was like getting there like uh and then it ended.
I'm like okay there we go.
Yeah it was like kind of perfect because that's when Willem Dafoe's character busts in with
his fellow patrolman.
Yeah so there was that freaking tragedy that's playing when Dolores is stapling herself up.
That was great.
I feel that that's like that song has become like the unofficial or actually no I think
it actually has become the official song of this movie.
Yeah.
Freaking the the choir version of Dayo at Charles' funeral.
So dude those kids phenomenal job.
Like oh my god.
Yeah.
Oh man.
I'm trying to think of like any I think the only thing this is missing for me is like
a single earworm.
I don't know man I got my earworm with like all three of those songs.
I haven't been able to stop singing those for days.
Personally I'm at a nine with the music.
You know even though I said that I might be too.
Yeah.
I don't know if I can reach.
Yeah.
All right I'm on nine too.
Yeah it's I'm just yeah like I say it's for me it was just missing that like that one
super ridiculously catchy tune.
That's fair.
So man are you telling me like you're not singing to yourself somebody left the cake
out in the rain.
I don't know if I can take it because it took so long to bake it.
Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that.
All right next up we got costumes.
Oh my.
Oh my dude freaking the end like you know going back to that song.
Freaking when he you know he's like oh I got one more I got one more thing planned.
I forget what he calls Lydia but he's just like in this one from the heart for throws
her his actual heart and he's freaking in the classic suit from the first one and then
freaking Lydia is in her classic red dress on this this is phenomenal.
This is amazing.
Peak cinema.
Exactly the costume department was working overtime.
Like seriously.
So good.
I would be I feel like it'd be a crime to give this anything lower than a 10.
Oh agree.
Dude it like it's like if nothing puts you over a 10 I feel that Delia's outfits also
would definitely put you out of 10.
Oh yeah.
Freaking Delia's Dolores.
Her look was amazing.
Oh yeah she looked fantastic.
And then every single person that you saw inside or in the afterlife was so cool.
Freaking sick dude.
Like you can't like legitimately tell like they stepped up from the first.
Yeah 100 percent.
Like the first I I would even dare say the first would be at like a 10.
I agree like freaking comparing the design of like the Bob character to how he looked
in the end of the first one to how he looked now.
Like honestly I think he got freaking an improvement.
I liked how they looked way better in this movie.
Yeah and freaking I like I've always said that the one thing that holds movies back
from a 10 is a lack of silhouette.
You cannot say that Beetlejuice doesn't have a freaking flawless silhouette.
Oh yeah like that classic like hand pose with the hair.
Like it's so you'd be able to recognize it like that.
Oh yeah.
I mean hell even the freaking color scheme like you just need freaking like those three
colors the black white and green.
Done Beetlejuice.
Yep.
Like there's no there's there is no argument for me that would put this less than a 10.
Same here.
All right last up we got our own personal score.
I am curious to hear yours first.
Okay I don't know if I would have enjoyed this as much if I didn't watch the first.
I do feel it kind of relies on your nostalgia of that one or I don't even want to say nostalgia
because like I said I have only seen Beetlejuice one time and that was yesterday.
Like it was it was so freaking close like from when I saw the sequel to the last like
it was so much fun.
It kept the tone really well like it picked it up flawlessly.
Like if anything the thing that I feel makes this movie possibly better than the original
is that Catherine O'Hara goes even more off the wall unhinged and I love it.
Just for that alone.
But I had so much fun with this movie.
This is definitely going to be on my yearly watch list.
Anytime freaking Beetlejuice pops up on a streaming service like I will be watching
Beetlejuice during the holiday season.
This is a this is a Halloween movie for me.
Like both of these movies are and yeah it's it's freaking added to my to my my yearly
watch list.
Had a great time with it.
Super funny and yeah I am personally probably going to put this at like probably a 92.
Really shit.
I was not expecting that.
I started listen I started typing out an 89 and that didn't feel right and I kind of like
worked my way up and I was like OK 92 feels feels solid.
Wow.
OK.
I'm like flabbergasted by that.
That's awesome though.
Yeah you know I agree with everything that Caleb said.
This this movie was so freaking good.
I think it's better than the first one.
I still enjoy the first one after giving it such a harsh time and rewatching it.
I take back a lot of what I said.
First one's a really good movie and just this one's a little better.
I I've I've really really enjoyed Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
The returning cast is absolutely fantastic.
I'm Ortega willing to throw the newbies are all fantastic.
They fit right into the world of Tim Burton.
Just like I have such a good time.
I had such a good time with this movie and I'm with Caleb.
It's definitely on my yearly watch.
It's added to my Halloween movies and I can't wait to watch it again.
I am lower than Caleb and I'm and I'm going to give this the same score personal score
that I gave a legacy sequel that also came out this year because I feel that I enjoyed
them both just as much.
So just like I gave Ghostbusters Frozen Empire I'm going to give Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
and 89 for my personal score.
Hell yeah.
Alright making our way through.
So that wraps up this breakdown.
So going through these scores real quick starting off with story.
We are sitting at a very sturdy 90 writing takes a little bit of a dip at an 89.5 acting
brings it back up sitting at a 93.
Our lowest category is character development sitting at an 83.
The effects are brought back up a little bit sitting at an 88.
Music is sitting at a nine out of 10.
The costumes are sitting at a 10 out of 10 and then our personal score ended up averaging
out to a 90.5.
So with that the final all bros letter grade for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice has come out to
a an A minus.
Holy shit.
Oh wow.
Dude I was not expecting that.
I was not either.
I was expecting like a solid B plus.
I was wow.
Dude no way.
Damn.
That's like how I'm very curious like how close it is though.
Or is it like pretty sturdy.
Let's see.
So our cut off for an A minus is 90 percent.
This is sitting at a 90.5.
Okay wow.
Like on the on the freaking dot 90.5.
Damn.
That is nuts.
That is insane.
Yeah damn.
Okay so 90.5 that puts it below weird the Al Yankovic story.
Okay it is below Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
Okay it's below Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
Okay it is below Inside Out 2.
Yeah okay.
And it is below Turning Red.
Okay how does sequel as well.
Yeah it is also sitting above 1917.
Okay wow.
It's above us.
Okay yeah.
I agree though.
It is also above Soul.
Okay it's above Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio.
Okay and then I was thinking of the other Pinocchio for a minute.
I'm just like wait a damn minute we ranked it that high.
Oh no not the remake.
Okay okay.
It's Guillermo's thank goodness.
Guillermo's yeah.
And then finally it is above The Matrix.
Okay wow yeah I'd be very interested to see what DJ thinks of that.
Yeah.
That is a very surprising placement but I'm not hating it.
I'm not either like even though like my personal score is a B plus I'm not mad that I got an
A minus as its overall score.
That's awesome.
Yeah that's freaking hell sick.
Man I love when that freaking happens dude.
That is insane.
Yeah the freaking costumes.
The costumes and music are I think what saved the lower categories.
All right then yeah that makes sense.
Because anything like the only stuff that was in the 80s was writing, character development
and effects.
So I mean writing was barely on that line.
It was freaking 0.5 away from being in the A minus range.
So 83 and that 88 for character development and effects.
That 9 and 10 freaking brought up.
All right wow.
So that that is nuts.
That is freaking wild.
Well yeah.
All right well unless you got anything else to say I'm just in awe.
Nope.
All right.
Well if you guys want to check out more from us be sure to follow and subscribe to us wherever
you listen to podcast.
We are on Spotify, Google Play, iHeartRadio, Google.
I already say Google podcast.
Wow.
Is it Apple podcast?
Or is it iTunes something?
No it's Apple podcast.
It's Apple podcast.
Okay.
Basically wherever you listen to podcast you'll find us.
If you want to check out any of our social media you can do so.
We are at the All Bros at Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, I'm sorry X whatever.
Instagram, TikTok all those.
Just search at the All Bros and you will find us.
If you want to email us you can do so at theallbroschannel at gmail.com.
If you want to check out our website you can find it at tinyurl.com forward slash user
forward slash the All Bros channel.
Yeah.
For a second I thought I was saying the freaking uh merchandise's link.
Oops.
Um but speaking of that if you want to check out our store you can find it at tpublic.com
forward slash user forward slash the All Bros channel.
Next week on the podcast we will be breaking down Furiosa.
I can't remember if it's a Mad Max Saga or a Mad Max story.
That's one of those.
Saga.
It's Saga.
Okay.
Pretty yeah.
Mad Max Saga.
Okay.
Um and also in that episode we have a little fun um extra uh little bit that we're gonna
be uh talking about.
We're gonna be doing a little bit of regrading with uh two certain movies.
Um so that's gonna be fun and yeah so next week's gonna be a really fun episode.
I'm excited.
Hell yeah.
Uh but anyway until then this has been the All Bros podcast.
I am Jonathan and I'm Caleb and we'll catch you guys next week.
Peace out.
Deuces.