What is up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast we have a very special guest the official third, the third host or
co host whatever that I don't know the frickin term of the all bros DJ from the untrained
I it's Dej pool this episode.
I will try to make sure that I as such throughout the episode.
Yeah.
Mr Plunge gets a cool name.
I want a cool name too.
So each bull is mine for today anyway.
I respect it.
So yeah, it's great to have DJ on this episode.
So we'll be talking about some weekly watches.
And then we'll be getting straight into our headliner, which will be our breakdown of
Deadpool and Wolverine.
Hell yes.
So gentlemen, what do you say we get started?
Let's do it.
Hey, this is Mikey T and the grant and William and we are the failing Hollywood podcast.
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And they are the best movie podcast.
Second best movie podcast.
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Around.
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So yeah, these listen to these hot takes coming up.
I'll give them the number two trophy number two.
Number two.
Let's go.
I'm always happy to do number two.
That guy's like the he's like the third or fourth string host on our co host on that
show Greg or whatever his name is.
We miss Freddy foot.
Bring Freddy foot home.
That's right.
Oh man.
But anyway, getting right into this episode weekly watches got a couple.
So yeah, Caleb, would you like to get started with some weekly watches?
Let's do it.
I had a weird viewing week.
I can see that.
Yeah.
I was it all on your cognitive browser or something?
No, not this time.
It honestly should have been.
It's almost embarrassing what I watched.
But the first thing that I watched this week was Mother of the Bride, which is a Netflix
movie that kind of sucks.
Who is like Brad?
I've never heard of that person.
Dude, it was it was a lot.
This movie was a bit much like I'm a sucker for romcoms and I will give bonus points where
bonus points probably shouldn't be given.
This didn't earn any of it.
Like this had this had very, very little going for it.
It was just like it was almost overly cheesy and a lot of the shit that was happening in
it, like the situations didn't like quite pan out how they didn't flow very well is
what I'm getting that.
Like the believability of the scenes actually working out was like zero.
But Brooke Shields was in it and she was hot.
And that was about as far as it went.
So he got some eye candy.
OK, at least here's that.
Yeah, that's honestly all it has going for it.
Like Miranda Cosgrove is in this and I was expecting I'm like, OK, she's not in like
horrible shit.
And she was honestly one of the worst parts of this movie.
Oh, damn.
It was it was rough, dude.
It was rough.
Oh, that sucks.
And yeah, this this guy, Benjamin Bratt, he almost played it too cool, like too cool,
where it was almost not believable, where everything it was like everything he did was
just like super cool.
Like everything that he did was like awesome in some way, shape or form.
And it was just like, no, dude, like really.
It was just it was too much.
It was too much.
And I don't know.
I'm continuing to talk about this as as much as I am.
It was a big letdown.
And I was I was I paid too much attention to it.
And I watched this while I was editing the last episode.
So I'm just like, man, it blows.
So anyway, but it's not a matter.
Sorry, I'm so sorry.
No, you're good.
Yeah.
That's why I freaking watched it.
Because I was like, it can't be that bad.
Like I was expecting cheesy, but I wasn't expecting this shit.
It was just bad.
So Miranda Cosgrove plays like a social media influencer who's getting married and her wedding
is sponsored by all these these different companies.
The movie.
Yeah, probably.
And so they like they have this one chick who's like the the wedding coordinator and
she's just like a freaking tight ass until Miranda Cosgrove's characters just like, we're
not doing this anymore.
And then she just like completely mellows out.
And I'm like, that doesn't make sense whatsoever.
And it's wild.
It's wild.
It's not completely unwatchable.
Like I said, Brooke Shields was some major eye candy.
So I'm giving this nothing better to do.
Poor Brooke Shields.
And what is what is she she hasn't is this like the first thing that she's done in a
in a while?
I'd imagine it must be.
I don't because I didn't necessarily think that she retired from acting, but I just thought
that she just didn't really act like that anymore.
I don't know if she does.
She came out of retirement for this movie.
Well not necessarily.
She's been doing stuff.
It's just not anything that's been super noticeable.
Excuse me, Batman, the audio adventures.
How dare you?
She played.
Yeah, I saw that.
But like these other things, it's just like super tiny roles, not really anything that
was like in the mainstream.
But yeah, like I said, kind of a letdown.
Next thing I watched was the road to El Dorado.
And this movie frickin is the shit like this holds up so well, dude.
This holds up incredibly well.
Like I love it.
I myself for only watching half of this movie.
I still have not gone back to finish it.
You're missing out.
I've been told I have an employee that will not shut up about this movie.
It's a great movie, dude.
And this is one that if it was in theaters, like there's enough like super solid animation
that I feel would look beautiful on a big screen.
So that's why I'm giving that a five dollar Tuesday.
I think a very sturdy five dollar.
The last thing that I watched was X-Men Origins Wolverine because I was kind of in a mood.
And this movie gets too much shit.
Like a lot of this.
Did DJ freeze?
It looks like it.
He sure as hell did.
I'm going to say like he's in he does an amazing impersonation of a statue.
Like yeah, I know.
I use mid motion and it changed or froze.
Rat-Row.
Anyway, hopefully he come back.
Yeah, hopefully he loads back in.
This movie does not get the credit that it's deserved.
This story was so good in this.
Like it was a little over the top at times.
Like I could totally agree with that.
And the only real thing that sucked was what they did to Deadpool.
Good point.
But like if people I feel that people don't realize that if it weren't for this movie,
Ryan Reynolds wouldn't have pushed to get a Deadpool movie.
And if that didn't happen, we never would have gotten the movie.
We're going to talk about this episode.
Yeah.
It is.
Hey, DJ Poole is back.
It's Dej Poole.
How dare you?
Oh, sorry.
Dej Poole.
My bad.
I'm sorry.
I don't know what happened.
Every single window I had just shut down.
Every single one just.
All right.
Damn.
Well, yeah, we're just going on about X-Men Origins not being as bad as everyone remembers
other than Deadpool.
Ryan Reynolds.
Yeah.
But I mean, when his mouth shut off, he's fine.
When his mouth's not closed, it's OK.
No, I meant like Ryan Reynolds and I feel like Hugh Jackman both are like not fans of
this movie.
I don't know why, though, other than what they did to Deadpool.
Like I was I like this movie.
I heard a theory, I don't know if it was a fan theory or what, that this Logan is the
one that was the variant that that we saw in the movie.
Like this version of of Logan was the one that they like.
I can't remember.
If I can remember, I'll send you the tick tock.
But yeah, it was I don't know.
People know way too much about each one of these different timelines.
And I'm just like, yeah, man, I sure whatever.
I always thought that this was canon within the the fricking X-Men movies.
Like that's what I always thought or assumed.
But I guess not, because I guess he does ask about mutants and shit in the first one.
Well, I don't want to spoil because I know we don't get into spoilers until later.
But there's there's something that happens in the movie where the main bad guy and him
have a face off, as it were.
And one of the only memories that he has is from this movie.
So I don't know how else to say it without just saying exactly what happened.
But we can get into it during the movie or during the actual breakdown.
Yeah, I don't know.
It was a good enough theory that I was like, and maybe maybe this is like the redemption
story for this this terrible movie.
Maybe or at least this terrible version of this of this Logan, this Logan in this Deadpool.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Re-watching this, I didn't hate it as much as I remember, because I remember giving
this movie a lot of shit.
But re-watching it with like kinder eyes, I'm like, this wasn't bad.
Like the story was all right.
Like the action was was fricking sick.
There was there was a lot of really not good CGI.
That was a bit rough, especially on the claws.
And but other than that, like, I don't know.
I dug it.
I really like the relationship between Logan and Victor.
I'll give you that.
That is really good in this movie.
Yeah.
And I with all the cameos we did get, I am a little bummed that he didn't make an appearance,
but I'll let it go.
Just fair enough.
Yeah.
But I'm giving this one a five dollar Tuesday as well.
Like I would love to see this on dude freaking like.
After a certain, you know, song played in a certain scene, I want to see like all these
X-Men movies again on the big screen.
Yeah.
But that's all I watched this week.
Hell yeah.
So I re-watched Get a Job because I haven't seen this since it came out when I was in
college.
It's crazy to think that's been that long.
Never finished.
Same.
But this movie gets shat on so bad because like this movie, I think, was made in like
2012, but they couldn't like get it distributed by anybody until like 2016.
And so like Anna Kendrick, I think in like 2014 said like, yeah, like we don't think
the movie's ever going to see the light of day, but it did.
And so like this is before like all of these stars were hugely like Anna Kendrick, Miles
Teller.
I'm really shocked that they are Bryan Cranston to be in this.
But I don't think it's that bad.
I think it's a fun comedy about a bunch of a group of friends that have recently graduated
from college and are trying to get jobs in their specific fields.
Like it's not great, but I had a fun time on the re-watch.
So can't beat early Mr. Fantastic and Squirrel Girl.
I will defend his Mr. Fantastic cast.
You're wrong.
I really liked him in the there is so many things wrong with your show, but the casting
is not the problem.
Listen.
OK, I was I was going to say when you said the casting, I thought you were going to defend
the movie, the casting.
Oh, hell no.
I will never defend fan for stick because by the way, Pedro Pascal, I I'm willing to
be convinced that he's going to be a good Reed Richards.
I am not currently convinced that he is going to be a good Reed Rich.
Like he just when I imagine Reed Richards, it is kind of more like Miles Teller, like
kind of like not skinny, but just like a gangly dude that's kind of tall and awkward looking.
And Pedro Pascal, he's the Mandalorian.
Like what are you talking about?
Like this dude has broad shoulders and Liz Stout.
They had the casting perfect with the first Fantastic Four.
Lone for food.
You mean like the Jessica Alba, like Chris?
Yeah.
OK, yeah.
I mean, listen, Michael Chiklis in it, like in an actual like practical suit.
To me, that is like the best thing so far.
Totally agree.
I agree.
Dude.
Freaking.
Like the Pedro Pascal almost has too much charm for Reed Richards.
Like Reed Richards should be a very awkward human being.
And it's just and Susan Storm should like be into that.
But Pedro, Pedro Pascal being cast as Reed Richards makes it feel like, yeah, anyone
would be in Reed Richards.
Yeah, it's weird.
Who would be into that guy that everyone's into that there was like a TikTok trends devoted
to?
I will say, though, I'm very optimistic.
Like I'm for the most part, I'm on board with this casting like the Fantastic Four has always
been my favorite team of superheroes.
So I'm freaking pumped for that movie.
I mean, listen, after what we just saw, the movie we're going to talk about, like I'm
back on board with what Marvel is trying to do again.
So I mean, I don't necessarily like it from the outside looking in.
But maybe once it gets closer and some trailers actually come out for it, then who knows?
This is total side note.
And I know we wanted to get here eventually.
Did any of you see the footage from Comic Con?
No, no.
And I don't want to hear anything about it, please.
Why?
I don't want it spoiled.
Does it spoil a lot?
Like, does it like spoil a big key point?
Well, when Thanos came back for like, no, it's like a teaser.
Well, they do kind of tease what will most likely be the big bad in that movie.
That's true.
You don't want to know.
Who do you think?
Not really confirm or deny.
How about that?
Harry, do you want me to like freaking like close my ears and you can tell TJ?
Who do you think?
I really don't, honestly.
Tell me.
You don't want to go into Fantastic Four completely blind?
Yeah, a little bit.
Freaking maybe watch the first trailer.
But that's it.
You're not even allowed to watch.
If I can't watch this, you can't even watch the first trailer.
OK, deal.
All right.
Freaking bet.
OK.
I'll go ahead and watch it for a minute.
OK.
I'll freaking I'll freaking wave at you and you can put it back on.
OK, deal.
So it's the Galactus thing, right?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The one OK.
Yeah, he like kind of looks down and like peeks through the window.
Yeah, I do.
By the way, I didn't even see it.
I just heard people talking about it.
So like, yeah, looks great.
There are like sounds great.
And we also kind of got a kind of a sneak peek on what the thing was going to look like,
which obviously looks like CGI.
Yeah.
But the silhouette looks good.
Like it's not as it's not as big as freaking fan for stick.
But I dig it.
I dig what what they're doing with that.
And I also like the color scheme, like the really, really light blue.
Yeah, I guess nice.
And it distinguishes them from past versions.
Fantastic pun intended.
Bring Rose anyway.
So anyway, then Thanos and Black Widow.
I already heard like one word.
I'm like, fuck.
Was it the word that I what did you hear?
Was it one word?
We were talking about your headphones off.
What happened?
I did.
I had them like smushed into my leg.
But apparently that was who we hoped it would be.
That's all we don't know.
All right.
What did you think of this movie, Rose?
Oh, I personally give it a stream it because that's how I originally watched it when I
came out in 2016.
And I stand by that.
I enjoy it.
It's not great, but it's not horrible.
Like everybody says, I think it's decent.
It's OK.
Wait, Miss Marvel is in this movie, too.
Wait, Allison Brie.
That's Allison Brie.
Oh, Brie Larson.
Brie Larson.
Too many Brees.
I was like, what?
How did I miss that?
Oh, man.
I watched Deadpool, you guys, the first one.
Anyway, I give it a full price ticket as it deserves.
OK, DJ Curious, when was the last time we watched Deadpool 2?
You know what's funny?
It's been a while.
I meant to watch both of them before we watch this one.
But I don't think you need to watch.
I don't think you need to watch both.
Maybe you do.
But watching the first one was good.
Good enough, I guess.
Yeah, I don't think they referenced two enough.
I think they threw in cable reference.
Yeah, they definitely didn't mention the kid.
I remembered a lot of it.
I remember people being super mad.
That was the first time I heard the term fridge, fridging a character, because they were talking
about fridging Vanessa.
They're like, how dare you take Vanessa out of this whole movie and then have her show
up at the end as just the prize for Deadpool.
And it's like, I think you're taking Deadpool a little too seriously.
But yeah, I mean, I thought it was great.
I didn't know how they were going to top the first Deadpool.
And Deadpool 2 was everything I could have wanted and more.
And spoiler alert, Deadpool 3 was pretty good, too.
Before we get into it, and just because we were on the subject of San Diego Comic Con,
please, how is everyone feeling about RDJ playing Dr. Doom?
Rose?
Yeah.
What's up?
What's you thinking about?
Because I heard somewhere that the other top contender was Killian Murphy.
Who it should have been.
Go ahead.
Yeah, that would have been way better casting.
I would have been freaking stoked to see him play Victor Von Doom.
But I'm sorry.
I'm I'm I'll be optimistic since the MCU.
It's the Russo Brothers.
I know they ruined the Hulk for Kayla, but they didn't run Hawkeye for me.
They actually did a really good job with Clint in their not only their two Avengers movies,
but Civil War.
Yeah, because the Russo Brothers only know how to deal with order.
He's not wrong.
Like, that's all they know how to deal with.
And Hawkeye is just a freaking powerhouse of order.
The Hulk is just an agent of chaos.
And the Russo Brothers don't know how to handle chaos.
I mean, I guess.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
I guess it's ordered chaos like the end of Infinity War or end game.
Yeah, it's like it's planned out chaos.
But someone who can throw a frickin wrench in your story like the Hulk, because that's
what like Stan Lee has even said, like that's what the Hulk was kind of meant to do outside
like outside of his own comics.
He's like, hey, you want to throw a wrench into some shit, frickin throw the Hulk in
there like he will go frickin just go ham on the place and then leave you like a bunch
of pieces to pick up.
Like that's what the Hulk does.
And they didn't know how to handle that.
So they frickin nuked my favorite character and brought out the version of him with smart
Hulk.
I don't want him to be talking about Robert Downey.
Oh, dude.
All I hope is that we don't see him without the mask and that he is purely Victor Von
Doom.
No, listen, the only way they're going to sell this as being like this is this is the
Tony.
Well, I've heard two different things.
I've heard that it's going to be Tony Stark that takes on the Dr. Doom mantle.
But I've also heard that it's just going to be he's going to straight up be playing Victor
Von Doom, which I don't like either of those.
But the way that they're going to sell that is Marvel and Fox or Sony, whoever owns Tom
Holland right now, they need to come to an understanding where Marvel owns Tom Holland.
And then there needs to be that moment where Peter sees Tony again and is like, oh, my
God, I miss you.
I love you.
Whatever it is.
And then he's like, boop off to dimension X with you or whatever he does and becomes
the actual villain.
Like there's going to be no better way than seeing him and Tom Holland have that reunion
and then him just ruin it, ruining it by being the bad guy.
Dude, a freaking Spider-Man Tony Stark all out brawl would be the shit.
I mean, he it sucks because Tom Holland should or Peter Parker should be the one leading
this new version of whatever the Avengers is going to end up being.
And the fact that he can't do that because Sony's a bunch of bitches is I don't know
about that because Spider-Man's always kind of been his own agent.
Give me your top three who should be leading the Avengers right now.
Frickin Sam Wilson.
No, incorrect.
I got to agree with Caleb.
No, and I'll tell you what else than Captain America.
I heard recently that like it's like it's not he's not going to be getting any like
superpowers of any kind.
Like he is the that makes him the perfect person, in my opinion, to lead the Avengers.
I think he's going to be a good number two to whoever is the leader of the Avengers,
because I think he's going to kind of take on the T'Challa role of just kind of being
more like diplomatic and being he'll be able to kick ass when he needs to.
But he is going to be someone who is going to be more thoughtful and more like trying
to solve things without all the violence, maybe.
Whereas like, you know, he can hang with the Avengers clearly, but he's not going to be
leading it.
I'm just telling you, if he is the one leading it there, I don't know who would be the number
two to him.
I see him as either co-leading with someone or being like a strong number two to somebody.
Dude, I don't know if there's anyone else because like you can't rely.
I don't feel like you can rely on Thor.
No.
Thor, Thor's not in a head space to lead the Avengers.
Captain Marvel is a bit too like caught up in her own shit to like worry about the Avengers.
I don't know.
I feel like I genuinely feel like Brave New World is going to set up Sam Wilson as like
a leader and that his number two is going to be the new Falcon.
Man, what if it's Bucky?
How hilarious would that be?
Bucky leads the Avengers?
Huh?
If Bucky leads the Avengers?
No, no, no.
I'm saying if Bucky ends up being the Falcon, like he's just always number two to Captain
America.
No, it's going to be that Hispanic dude.
Who Naimur?
Did you watch Falcon and Winter Soldier?
I did, but I watched it like literally when it came out and I haven't watched it again
since.
Okay.
So you know the first episode that like Hispanic dude that he like basically gives his armor
to or his wings?
I vaguely do remember that.
I mean, this will be a good excuse to rewatch all that because I don't really remember it
that well.
Yeah.
So that character's name is Joaquin Torres and he is actually the person that becomes
the Falcon to Sam Wilson's Captain America.
So he takes over as Falcon and his suit's like all green.
I don't know, man.
Well, listen, all I got to say about our DJ is I think that the real reason I think that
they're going with him as whatever they're going with him as is they, I mean, clearly
they had to clear out Jonathan Majors, which by the way is still a travesty.
Free my man Jonathan Majors, let him be Kang.
But since we had to cancel the Kang dynasty, they were like, eh, instead of putting it
on somebody that is kind of like a not a qualified Marvel character at this point, maybe we'll
just bring back one of the olds.
And we know that Robert Downey is not going to mess around with this and he's not going
to he's not going to screw us over and start hitting all the white ladies and chasing them
down the road.
True.
This is what I'm hoping if he's playing a Tony Stark variant that became Dr. Doom all
in.
I'm like, OK, I can roll with this.
If he is playing strictly Victor Von Doom, I do not want to see him outside of the mask
because like, because God, because if he's only in the mask and he's just doing the voice
for Dr. Doom, I think he could do a great voice for Dr. Doom.
But then you could kind of have like if he doesn't want to do like the physical roles,
he doesn't have to.
You could get any Joe Schmo to be behind the mask.
I don't know, man.
I think you can pay Robert Downey Jr. money and not have him show his mug because like
it was one thing to have Paul Bettany be who was he before Jarvis?
You know what I mean?
For all those years, like he didn't get paid like the rest of those fools did.
Like he just came and set his lines and dipped like he was in sweatpants until he had to
be visioned.
Like there's no chance that they're going to be like, yeah, we're going to pay.
We're going to pay you through the asshole and we're going to give you part of the movie
and just be like, nah.
And also you don't even have to show your face.
Not impossible.
Impossible for how much they're going to pay that dude.
Unless he's taking like they're just paying him for the voice acting role, which I bet
Robert Downey is not that does.
I don't feel he has that big of an ego where his face needs to be on the screen.
I don't think he does.
I think that the amount of money that Marvel is backing up to him and the Russos because
the Russos also said like, we're done with this.
Goodbye.
Good night.
We had our swan song, the end.
Like that is my only like hope for this because they're only coming back to do doomsday and
secret wars, right?
So I mean, it would be, I mean, because for the Russos, as far as their Marvel legacy,
like they, they have to understand and Robert Downey Jr. too, that this could ruin everything
for them because infinity war and end game, like you, you, I don't think you can beat
that and you certainly can't beat it with what they have going on in this new phase
so far, even if you include Deadpool and Wolverine.
So I mean, it's going to have to be outstanding in a way that this movie that we're reviewing
tonight would pale in comparison to what half of one of those movies needs to be in my opinion.
I heard, I heard another podcast.
I will say this.
I heard another podcast say this and I agree with them is that like what's made this phase
of Marvel, like this multiverse saga or whatever.
So such a strange thing is that what the Russos did with infinity war and end game was they
didn't just end that saga.
They kind of like ended everything.
They were kind of, they kind of made an it's over now movie and then it kept going and
I think that's why it felt weird when there were still more movies, even though you wanted
to see these characters, you're like, this is we did it.
We finished it.
We had 23 of these over 10 or 15 years or whatever it was.
And oh, there's not look, there's some more spider-mans.
Here we go.
Come on.
So I mean, they've, they must have some kind of vision of how this is going to be because
it's, I don't know.
This can't be 2.5 like infinity and end game 2.5.
Like it's gotta be its own earth shattering thing for the MCU.
So I don't know.
They have a big hill to climb.
Honestly, I think they're going about this very wrong where this is like you had time
to build up to end game.
Like you had freaking 10 years to build up to end game.
We are what year did end game?
Did end game come out in 2019?
Yes, sir.
That sounds right.
So you're not even like half that time and you're already trying to set up freaking doomsday
and secret wars, which is supposed to be the next infinity war end game combo.
Like that's it's too much in not enough time.
And I think the issue was that they are trying to start over, like rebuild something from
the ground up, but you can't because you have all these things prior.
And I think that's where everyone's struggling.
I, again, this was, this isn't my own thought.
I heard it on another show, but I kind of hope that this is a like infinity war.
I'm sorry.
Secret war and doomsday.
Like I hope this is like a proper, like where infinity war and end game were like an end.
I hope this is like a proper like handing the torch to whatever the next like main group
is going.
I mean, they're called the, they're, they're Avengers secret wars and Avengers doomsday.
So I mean, it's going to be Avengers movies.
So I mean, hopefully this will be like the official, like the accepted like baton passing
to like, these are your new Avengers.
This is how we're moving forward and we're killing Tony Stark again.
Let's see.
When is doomsday supposed to come out?
It's supposed to come out next.
I was going to say it's pretty quick in 2026.
It's supposed to come out and we still, is it how much after that?
I want to say secret wars comes out fairly quickly after.
A year after.
So it's, it's exactly the same, but you got too much shit trying to go on with that dude.
Yeah.
Way too much stuff.
Now in fairness, I wonder what version of the all bros know in whatever form it came
in before when we were like two or three movies away from infinity war, like were there people
like, I don't know, man, I know we've been building up to this for a long time, but I
don't know how this is going to get pulled off.
Like I don't know if they're actually going to be able to do it.
Like is this that situation where we're like doubting it, but then when we see it, it's
going to be like, Oh my God, my face melted off my skull.
It was amazing.
I don't, I don't know if we had like that level of doubt.
Like we didn't know how it was going to come about, but we, I feel like we knew it was
going to be awesome here.
It's like, we don't know how this is going to come about and we're nervous about it because
end games just closing the chat.
Like end game was closing the chapter of the MCU or like that's what it was supposed to
do.
So we've, we've continued it, this is supposed to push on to future projects unless the MCU
is fricking shutting down, which those fricking moneymakers I'm pretty sure are not going
to do that.
Oh, absolutely not.
Like it's, this is one that I am nervous about because I don't feel like they've properly
set up.
Like they have to straight up before this movie, they have to create a new Avengers
team.
Like they still have to pull all these people together.
Well, I'm not, I'm not a hundred percent convinced that the Thunderbolts movie is what we think
it's going to be because like there is that asterisk next to it.
You know what I mean?
Like, and they said like that, what did it, what was it?
I think Kevin Feige even said it's not until after the movie comes out or like right before
the movie comes out that they're going to even explain why that asterisk is there.
Like I think that's going to have, I think that movie, I think what, what happens in
cause of what there's three movies coming out next year.
Right.
And it's Thunderbolts.
One of them.
I know, I know Brave New World is and what the hell is the other one?
Why am I blanking?
Okay.
So we're going to get Brave New World Thunderbolts and the new, the fantastic four first steps.
That also says blade.
I think that was like a former pipe dream.
Cause I still think there, I don't even think they've started filming yet.
I don't think they've gotten another director since they lost the one that they had.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Brave New World Thunderbolts first steps.
It still says blade.
I think that after Brave New World comes out, I think that's when they're going to start
explaining what that asterisk is and Thunderbolts, uh, because that was the other thing too.
Kevin Feige said that Thunderbolts has no affiliation to Thunderbolt Ross.
So and apparently like in the comics back in the day, like there, that was two separate
entities, but then it was like revised or whatever in like 2012 or whatever to, to be,
you know, the Thunderbolt Ross is Avengers or whatever.
I don't know.
So I don't know.
I I'm hoping that that's what the, like those two movies are going to connect in a way that
we didn't understand until after Brave New World comes out.
But apparently the first trailer dropped at Comic-Con for Thunderbolts.
Really?
Yeah.
Let me see if I can find it.
Let's play that clip.
Caleb.
Let's see if I can find it.
I'm excited to see John Walker again.
Honestly, I liked him.
I liked him too.
He was such a, he was such a terrible, you know, you know, it's funny when whenever Beth
like truly hates a character, like I like in life is like, I don't like that person
at all.
I'm like, this is a great actor.
This is an amazing actor.
He's like, yep, I hate that guy.
I was like, this guy's doing a great job.
Like that's it.
Because that's what you want, right?
You want to be so good that like you hate that part of that character in real life so
much you almost hate that person.
So he definitely did it well.
Did you guys see David Harbour's new suit?
No, I heard he wore it.
Yeah, I didn't see it was.
It looks pretty sick.
It does.
Okay.
I can't find the footage, but there's someone that like wrote a breakdown.
Yeah, like wrote a breakdown.
So I'll read this real quick.
Elena Belova knocks on a door and we see that it's Alexi's David Harbour's place.
He thinks it's door dash, but when he realizes it's her, he quickly starts to clean things
up, opens the door and she says, Hi, dad, makes a bunch of excuses for the mess and
lies about being busy.
Elena asked if he's been doing well and is fulfilled.
He lies and said, yes, she tells him that there she's there because she thinks there's
something wrong with her.
She feels like she's drifting and aimless.
She says that footage of Bucky walking into a courtroom and of John Walker reading an
article about him called Fall of a Hero.
Apparently she's not the only hero in the MCU who feels that way.
Elena continues talking to Alexi and says to feel better, to feel better.
She's been throwing herself into her work, cut her to killing a bunch of dudes in a hallway.
Elena works her way down to some secret lair littered with computers and paper.
John Walker is already down there and starts shooting at her.
Ghost is there and is there with a few other characters too.
A big fight starts.
Lewis Pullman's character then stumbles out in a hospital gown.
Elena asks him who sent him and he says, you are all sent.
Just then all the doors slam shut in the room.
It's a trap.
Red lights turn on with a one minute countdown.
Elena explains that all of these characters have done bad things like robbing the government,
contract kills and more.
So says Walker, someone wants us gone, she says.
Montage begins.
We see Julia Louise Dreyfus walking into a party that had Marvel relics like Loki Scepter
there.
Pullman's character walks out of a room.
Group of soldiers stand there with guns.
Elena jumps off a building.
The words careful who you assemble pop on the screen.
We see the group from earlier all together in an elevator then entering Louise Dreyfus's
office.
There are good guys and you're bad guys, she says.
A few more action shots flip by ending with a Ligra saying, but there are worse guys.
After the title Thunderbolts, emphasis on the asterisks, we see a red limousine driving
in the desert.
The group is in there and Alexi is driving.
Louise has the making of a team that can raise to glory, he says.
That can be the heroes on the Wheaties box.
He'll interrupts.
I find it's best if you ignore him with a little kitty toy, he adds.
Okay, it doesn't sound like there's a whole lot going on other than kind of assembling.
I don't know.
I don't know what to think about that yet.
I still I got to see.
Did you guys before the movie?
Did they have a preview of Brave New World?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, that I I'm stoked for that.
Same here.
I'm pumped.
If they who I'm going to avoid getting on my soapbox, but I am going to be very pissed
off if they ruin Red Hulk, because Red Hulk is one of the easiest Hulk characters to get
right.
I mean, from by all accounts, I've heard that it's everything is going good.
So fingers crossed.
He looks good.
He looks I like that they kind of distinguishing him.
I don't know if it was just the angle that we saw, but I like that he looks a little
lankier than Hulk.
Mm hmm.
Like just so you have that distinction between them other than just the color change.
But I'm excited.
I'm excited to see what that is, and I'm super pumped to see the leader and his head better
be freaking ginormous.
Oh, you mean like Modoc or whatever?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't need it to be like that big.
I just need it to be at least like two heads worth big, like tall wise.
I don't think this is a spoiler before we get into the movie to say, but I feel like
Deadpool and Wolverine, like that is that movie was everything that Multiverse of Madness
wanted to be and was absolutely.
Yes, 100 percent.
Well, that is the perfect segue, I think, into this breakdown.
So let's say we get into it.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, before we get into our breakdown of Deadpool and Wolverine, Caleb, you want to
do your shtick that you do every single episode where you tell people how we do things on
this podcast?
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final all bros and untrained I letter grade.
The eight categories that we are going to be scoring are story, writing, acting, character
development, effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at
the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
The other or we also get a percentage.
It doesn't matter quite as much higher, but it's still fun to see where these these movies
rank.
So without further ado, I'm putting it right here.
Deadpool Wolverine spoilers.
If you have not seen the movie, there are so many things to be spoiled.
Honestly, I don't know.
Not pass go.
Honestly, I don't know how you've made it this long without getting this movie spoil
for you.
Yeah, good for you.
Like I was talking about it before we recorded.
I said what was it?
The headline of the article was Chris Evans on his return to the MCU and Deadpool and
Wolverine.
I was like, why?
Why would you?
Why?
Why do freaking Channing Tatum said something about a way?
Shit.
OK, wait.
No, it's already posted.
Yeah, we're sorry.
Spoilers on this point.
But I think it was Sunday Channing Tatum posted on his like Instagram about how excited he
was to like actually play Gambit in this movie.
I'm like, the weekend's not even over.
Like holy shit.
We're already talking about the game.
Well, the internet is the worst.
Like it's the worst thing.
It's the best and worst thing that ever happened.
It's the greatest.
We can do this show right now.
You guys are we're all in different states.
So this show, I think Kevin Feige is already assassinated Channing Tatum.
Tatum was the next Holland.
I was going to say if he hasn't assassinated Tom Holland yet, then he's definitely not
taking out Tatum.
I mean, if he didn't take out Holland and Ruffalo, I think Tatum save.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
But yeah, obviously, we've been talking about shit.
But spoiler warning, if you've not seen the movie, stop listening now.
With that have at it, Rose.
All right.
In our favorite segment, we like to call reading with Rose.
I'm even wearing the shirt.
I mean, it doesn't say it on the front, but it does say reading with Rose on the back.
All right.
In 2018, Wade Wilson uses cable's time traveling device to travel from his timeline, Earth
1005 to Earth 616, the sacred timeline where he meets Happy Hogan and requests to join
the Avengers, but he is rejected.
Six years later, Wade has retired from being the master mercenary known as Deadpool and
is working as a used car salesman after breaking up with his girlfriend, Vanessa Carl.
It's a Carlisle, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Excuse me.
The S threw me off.
I don't know.
Silent.
During his birthday party, the Time Variance Authority, the TVA captures Wade and brings
him to Mr. Paradox, who offers him a place on Earth 616.
However, Paradox also reveals that Wade's timeline is deteriorating as a result of the
death of its stabilizing anchor being James Logan Howlett.
Paradox details his plans to use the Time Ripper, a device he developed to mercy kill
timelines to prematurely destroy Wade's timeline.
Wade seals Paradox's TemPad to travel the multiverse to find a variant of Logan to save
his timeline.
After encountering various Logan variants, Wade takes one back to the TVA where he learns
that this particular Logan is considered the worst Wolverine in the multiverse.
After an argument during which Wade learns that Paradox is acting without the knowledge
of his superiors, Paradox prunes Wade and Logan into the void.
There, Wade and Logan fight before they and Johnny Storm are captured and taken to Cassandra
Nova, the twin sister of X-Men leader Charles Xavier.
Cassandra, who was pruned as an infant but made a deal with the TVA to stay willingly
in the void, kills Johnny and leaves Wade and Logan to be consumed by Eliath, although
they manage to escape.
Logan and Wade meet a variant of Wade called Nicepool, who gives them a car and points
them to the void's borderland, where the resistance against Cassandra is located.
However, Logan castizes Wade for hiding the fact that he is unable to fix Logan's timeline,
leading to a fight that leaves them both unconscious.
Laura drives them to the borderlands, where they meet resistance members Electra Nach-
Caleb, you gotta help me out here.
Nachos, thank you.
Eric Brooks and Remy LeBeau wave them the others and proposes an alliance to fight Cassandra.
Logan refuses to cooperate but eventually relents after a conversation with Laura and
his inability to save the X-Men and his universe.
Wade, Logan and others go to confront Cassandra and manage to block her powers by placing
Juggernaut's helmet on her head.
However, Cassandra is betrayed and injured by her henchman Pyro on behalf of Paradox.
Logan convinces Wade to remove the helmet, allowing Cassandra to heal and open a portal
back to Wade's timeline.
Fighting on Earth-10005, Wade and Logan find that Paradox has begun to use the Time Ripper.
Cassandra, having learned of Paradox's plan from Pyro before executing him, arrives through
another portal and kidnaps Paradox.
She plans to take control of the Time Ripper to destroy all timelines, leaving only the
void as revenge for Paradox's betrayal.
Cassandra summons an army of Deadpool variants that battle Wade and Logan, but Wade's friend
Peter Wisdom arrives and convinces them all to retreat.
Paradox tells Wade and Logan that disrupting the power flow of the Time Ripper would kill
a person.
Wade and Logan use both of their bodies as conductors, surviving by sharing the burden
and destroy the Time Ripper, killing Cassandra.
Paradox is then arrested by Hunter B-15 from the TVA.
B-15 reveals that Wade and Logan's actions have stopped Wade's timeline from deteriorating.
Wade requests B-15 free the others from the void before asking if it's possible to rewrite
the history of Logan's timeline.
B-15 replies that it was his history that made Logan the hero he needed to stop Cassandra,
and there is nothing to fix.
Logan who wishes to retire and live a peaceful life is taken by Wade to meet his friends
along with Laura.
On Logan's encouragement, Wade reconciles with Vanessa.
Was that a reconciliation?
I know he encouraged him to, but it kind of just seemed like...
I don't know.
It was a little up in the air.
Yeah.
Okay, so we're back on speaking terms.
Okay.
Well, no, they were on speaking terms.
Okay, that's true.
But maybe just not awkward speaking terms, kind of like during the birthday party at
the beginning, I wasn't used to their conversations feeling that awkward.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But listen, the real beginning of this movie was...
Oh, good lord.
By the way, there are so many favorites I had in this movie.
But my favorite is that just this, are we going to pay reference and never go back to screw
with the memory of Logan?
Absolutely not.
And just immediately just digging up his grave.
That was my favorite.
I love that the most because so many people were like, they cannot mess with the Logan
timeline.
They will not.
If they do, no, it's impossible.
They can't.
And they did.
With no freaking mercy, dude.
Dude, I was kind of excited.
I was like, oh shit, are they going to resurrect Logan?
And I thought the same thing.
And then they pull him up and they're like, oh no, he is hella dead.
He's traditionally known as deceased.
I love right before the bye bye bye starts, he is freaking holding up the corpse.
He's just like, I guess we're getting that team up after all.
Freaking just high fives.
Dude, that was some of the most brutal shit.
Deadpool is amazing.
I love that he just freaking like tomahawks a freaking femur into some dude's chest.
I still can't believe that that was not Ryan Reynolds.
That was actually someone else doing all that dancing.
Yeah, I actually learned that today on TikTok.
The dude who did the dancing showed his audition video.
Yeah, he was freaking killing it.
He was saying he's like, yeah, so my agent called me and said I had a half hour to send
him a video of me doing the bye bye bye song or dance, which I did not know.
And he said, so I spent a half hour learning that song or learning the dance and then sent
it in and was like, got the role.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I'm like, that's impressive as hell, dude.
That is impressive as hell.
I had just watched the first Deadpool again.
So seeing the immediate call back to whenever the TVA showed up and he hides behind the
stump and he just holds up his hand.
Wait, because he does that in the first in the very first movie, like as soon as they
as soon as they flip the car and all those dudes come all Francis's boys come up and
start to get him.
He does the exact same thing.
I was like, I love this movie.
All right, so much.
I love it so much.
And then he puts the claws on.
Oh my gosh.
Wolverine Wolverine is hard for you just stabbing himself on accident.
Oh my gosh.
I love that he freaking got the claws stuck in some dude's ass and then freaking got stuck
in the dude.
Other dudes nuts.
Yeah, that's what he said.
He's like Wolverine is hard.
I like to that it like set the tone immediately of like this is a Marvel movie.
But guess what?
There is a lot of blood.
There's going to be people getting dismembered.
Like I think it was a cool I think either way was a cool choice to have that happen
in the snow.
So they were like, listen, there is blood here.
Don't be don't be confused.
Like this is a bloody gory mess right up top.
Yep, I appreciate perfection is perfection.
I appreciate from the very beginning from what I saw that it was never a question if
this was going to be rated R like Disney, like let them literally do whatever they wanted.
They trusted Ryan Reynolds and his team and like when they would come when they would
go to Disney and be like, hey, can we put this joke in?
Can we put this joke in?
Be like, yeah, yeah, you're good.
Go for it.
Like they were amazed what they were able to get away with.
Yeah.
I guess the only thing they restricted was cocaine.
I think Kevin Feige, like he was joking about that or something.
Yeah, I think so.
But Ryan Reynolds still made it a running joke.
My favorite was the right.
I think I saw Ryan Reynolds talking about how he I think he pitched the joke to Kevin
Feige about like we got to stop with this multiverse just miss after miss after miss.
He's like, I did not know how he's going to react to that.
But he said he loved it.
He said he's like immediately was laughing and thought it was hilarious.
So I don't know.
It was cool how much they poke fun at what has happened in the MCU up until now.
Like Wolverine shows up and he's like, hey, you finally made it to the MCU.
Kind of at a low point.
But dude, I don't know about you guys.
I was like kind of on that board where the MCU was just kind of at a low.
I don't know.
This movie just kind of made it all better.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like anything that happened prior to this movie with just like how not great or
well structured it was somehow this movie made it all better.
I feel the way that I felt about like Spider-Man No Way Home of that, how that made everything
feel better with the MCU at that point.
That's how Deadpool and Wolverine left me feeling.
And this was like it was called Deadpool and Wolverine, but it really was like Deadpool
three because I will say this movie did not do what I wanted it to do, which was I wanted
it to have more meaning outside of itself.
If that makes sense.
I wanted to kind of like maybe introduce the whatever the big bad was going to be.
I don't know.
I thought it was going to be more consequential, but I would say if you look at it as just
like this is Deadpool three, but it's happening in the MCU.
This is very much in line with the other two Deadpool movies.
It kind of is like they don't go a lot of places like in the first two movies.
There's not a lot of place.
I was surprised about how much of this movie took place in the void.
I honestly did not expect to be there as long as we were, but I didn't mind.
It didn't feel too long at all.
You know what I mean?
When I realized like, oh, we're still here.
Like, okay, this is fine, though, like we don't we don't really need to be anywhere
else just yet.
Though I don't remember why I went on that tangent other than that.
That was like probably the only thing I didn't like about the movie, but that's like minor,
minor gripe that it would just I don't I don't know how much it this movie, I guess I would
say didn't explain how much this is going to mean to the greater MCU going forward,
but I'm sure in the next few movies it might maybe.
I don't know.
Or you know what it probably will is Fantastic Four.
Fantastic Four is when we're probably going to get more of like the TVA and a little more
time travel and stuff like that, because I honestly thought they were going to do more
time travel in this movie.
Like I was expecting because again, after watching Deadpool one, there was a moment
at the end where Colossus tells him like it's right before he's going to kill Francis.
And he's like there's four or five moments in every man's life or when every person's
life when he can be become a hero and he's giving him this speech and he just boom just
shoots Colossus just starts puking.
And I was like, what a cool moment to like because when I still thought it was going
to be a time travel movie, I'm like, what a cool moment to come back to if they did
and be like, you know, maybe change it up a little bit.
And maybe this was his hero moment.
So I mean, it's not what the movie was, so I can't say that I didn't like that.
But I don't know.
I think everybody came in expecting the world not knowing what to expect at all from this
movie because I didn't like I didn't know it was going to end up the way that it was
just stuck in the void.
I think personally, I think that and I haven't seen anything officially confirming this or
on maybe somebody has come.
I feel that this was Ryan Reynolds mission and I feel Sean Levy's and Hugh Jackman's
mission with this movie was to give the Fox Marvel movies the send off it deserved because
it was the book was just shut so fast on those movies after Disney bought Fox.
And so they never got the closure that I feel they deserved.
I mean, yeah, a lot of people will shit on those movies.
But those movies, there were some movies that that did like that deserve the proper send.
And I think they pay tribute to those really well.
Yeah, like they really deserved it because like a lot like frickin like if we're just
you know, like kind of skipping to the soundtrack, the frickin song that they play over the credits
frickin the I forget the yeah time of your life when they're showing like a bunch of
the behind the scenes from the X-Men movies.
Fantastic Four.
That almost made me cry.
By the way, I cried.
I started tearing up like this like this movie.
Like if you grew up with these movies as a kid, like these were your superhero movies.
Like this was like, like the perfect swan song for you.
It was amazing.
I loved it.
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, I by the way, I completely like from what my expectations were to what
it ended up being like, I'm not disappointed.
Like, I don't want anybody to think that I was like, Oh, I thought it was going to be
this and it wasn't.
The only disappointment I had in the whole movie was when they went to go see when he
was going to find the variant that he was going to try and team up with.
And he went and met up with patch and it was not Daniel Radcliffe.
I was in percent sure it was going to be down.
I would have bet anything.
Now listen, we did get the cavalry.
So I mean, you know, open a window, close the door, or that stupid saying goes.
So I'll take that really wanted Daniel Radcliffe though.
Real bad.
I had no idea.
Cavill was so high with fan casting.
I had no idea.
Sainly high.
I had no idea.
Like, it was cool to see that.
But I'm just like, wait, really?
He was he's like been at the top of the list.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
No, if there's anyone that I would want Henry Cavill to play in the MCU, it's Captain Britton.
Yeah.
Definitely.
I would love to see that.
I like that he did the Henry Cavill did the the Mission Impossible like like what is it
like charging up his his fists or whatever to put his claws out?
He's like, that's so great.
Oh, we love you.
We will treat you so much better than those dick bags down the road.
Yeah.
So dirty, dude.
African montage is insane.
Like not only do we get the frickin fantastic classic yellow and blue outfit, we get the
frickin brown suit yellow and brown.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I the only thing I'm upset about is that we didn't get to see a little bit more Wolverine
Hulk fight.
Oh, dude.
They probably awesome that that one scene alone probably cost more than all of Chris
Evans.
Like because damn it, son.
Like the fact that they were even put able to put Hulk in there as a reflection is crazy.
I was I was thrilled with it, though.
I was like, this is how Hulk should be or how he should feel.
He should just feel like a holy shit monster.
My favorite, probably my favorite part of the entire movie was the finally we can put the
nail in the coffin to all of those fans, fans that are like, we need a comic accurate Wolverine.
We need him to be five foot three Wolverine.
And then they just start by going like, it is shorter than he was when he was sitting
on the stool.
He's like, look at you, look at you, a little guy, a little short king.
I was ready to frickin die with that thing popped up.
It was great.
I would put that to bed.
It would be terrible.
Don't do it.
What a great what a great one to start on.
Oh, shit.
I have been afraid.
So my wife hasn't seen this yet.
We're going to go see it tomorrow.
I have been frickin flooding her feed with Minecraft shit just so it because she's she
usually gets frickin like Henry Cavill stuff.
And I was like, I want to avoid that.
I want that to be a frickin surprise to her.
So I've been I've been like, I mean, I I snuck on her phone last night and liking a bunch
of Minecraft stuff.
And so now her feed this morning, she's like, oh, my gosh, my feed is just full of this
frickin Minecraft Minecraft and Roblox.
Yeah.
So I'm accomplished.
Yeah.
I'm like, she came out and said that this morning.
I'm just like, yes.
Your husband, Caleb, I like to when he was going through trying to find who he was going
to go through time with because like the the Crucified Logan, like I never actually read
that comic, but I remember that that cover from when I was a kid.
So that was crazy to see.
Like the apocalypse Wolverine.
Like that was nuts to see.
Like speaking of that, I'm assuming you've like seen people being up in arms about that
about.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I agree.
I bet it's a bunch of white feet like white Christians.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no, it is.
I like the whole Wolverine on the X.
But they're saying, oh, it looks like a cross.
So it's supposed to.
You know this.
But at the end of Logan, when there was a cross, they put it to its side and it was
an X because he was an X man.
Also that cover is from forever ago.
Like it's not like it's new.
But I just find it funny that like, you know, that cover probably got bitched about back
then too.
Yeah.
But like they're all bitching about that.
They're just like, oh, you know, like, oh, we walked out 20 minutes into the movie.
One, I didn't hear any of them say that they tried to get a refund.
So Disney still got their money.
So suck it.
And two, did you see the first two Deadpool movies?
Like this is still so in character.
This is how the character is.
This is how the world is.
Really?
This is too far.
And he called.
I'm pretty sure he called before all that happened.
He was already calling himself Marvel Jesus.
So that didn't happen.
Yeah.
What the shit was that?
I don't know.
It's listen.
He is short.
Yeah.
That was great.
When he was like, he was like, hey, you can be with us.
And he's like, all right.
When he's talking to the guy from the paradox from the TVA and he's like, he's like, hold
on just a second.
And then walks over to us and grabs the camera and he's like, oh my God, fuck everybody.
I'm going to Disneyland.
Fuck you, Fox.
I love that joke.
And I think the icing on the cake is when he freaking headbutt the camera.
I'm good.
There is one line that I'm going to say for writing because like freaking just like, yeah,
I'm going to say for writing, but like freaking I fuck.
Sorry.
I fucking lost it.
I'm just going to say right now.
Oh, my gosh.
So dude, just getting at it was it was a G spot.
Sorry.
Good.
That's definitely up there, but it's not that one.
Oh, my gosh.
Dude, the this story was freaking solid.
Like everything made sense.
Like even like, I think honestly, the only issues that I might have had with the story
is I feel incorporated a little bit too much shit from Loki.
And they kind of relied on you having seen Loki to understand what was going on here.
I can definitely agree with that because I haven't seen Loki season two.
So I'm sure that like there was stuff from that.
If you saw season one, you're fine.
Okay.
By the way, I could be wrong.
I would love to talk to someone who has not seen Loki season one.
I don't think you really need to see it to like be able to watch this movie.
Like I don't think you're going to get stuck on who the TVA is, because unlike in the Marvels
where Miss Marvel sees Rambo and she's like, hey, you have these powers now.
And she's like, a witch cursed me under a tree at midnight.
Anyway, we don't have time to talk about it.
You're like, wait, what?
What are you talking about?
Whereas I think their explanation of who the TVA was and who this like splinter group was
off of the TVA, like it was an easy like, hey, you screwed with time.
Remember when you screwed with time in the last movie?
Well, we don't like that here.
And even though my boss doesn't like to prune people anymore, like that's why we don't wear
badges because we're off the books a little bit.
Like I don't know.
It would be nice to have the backstory of Loki season one or two, it ran to, but I don't
think you really need it to be on it.
I think you've seen Deadpool 2, the TVA in this makes sense.
Yeah, I definitely give you that.
The only like thing that I feel season one or having seen season two of Loki added is
when they that comment like, oh, my boss doesn't like to prune timelines anymore.
It's the boss is referring to Loki.
Yeah.
Okay.
That makes more sense.
Yeah.
And then the head of the TVA now is B 15 and she's like the guard that beat frickin beats
the shit out of Loki in season one.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So I other than that, I feel like there's a little bit of TVA exposition.
I feel might be a little confusing for general audiences.
Those that haven't seen like haven't watched the shows and are just strictly on the movies.
But I think it's still it's it's not hard to get.
I feel like the joke that brought that to light and was like legit was when Elias shows
up and he's Deadpool's like, oh, my God, that's a life from Loki season one, episode five.
Dude, that was like the perfect little like asterisk like how comics like whenever they
refer to something from a different comic, they put a little asterisk and then like reference
Amazing Spider-Man like number blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that was perfect.
I'm like, dude, that frickin yeah, that just reminded me of the scene in Deadpool two at
the end.
Like he first meets Juggernaut and he's just calling out his favorite comics.
It was great.
Oh, man.
That was so good.
I I can't think of anything.
I felt like the redemption arc for low or for this Logan was awesome.
The incorporation of all of these random Fox property characters was amazing.
Like no issues there.
Like the overall story of just Deadpool trying to get back to his world to save his timeline.
Simple concept.
And it turned it like they obviously they made it like a buddy cop film.
And it worked.
It was a simple enough story and I feel it worked super well.
I mean, there was I heard Ryan Reynolds or maybe someone just talking about the old pitches
for this movie.
And one of them was like, like, you know, those old road movies like Family Guy would
make fun of it with Stewie and Brian like the road to whatever.
Like this movie was like one of the iterations of it was supposed to kind of be like that,
like just Deadpool and Wolverine on their road trip or whatever to wherever they're
going.
This still kind of felt like it had a lot of that in it because it was them going, you
know, because he needed to save his world on what is it?
What did he call it?
Like best guess of a wish or something.
What was it?
What did he say?
Oh, educated wish.
That's a good wish.
Educated wish is hilarious.
But that's it.
Like if it wasn't for his educated wish, like they would not have gone on this journey together
clearly.
And I don't know.
It was so good.
It was so I really I love this movie.
This was so good.
And I'm so happy that we got two fights between Wolverine and Deadpool and not just like the
one which the one was great.
You're talking about the first one.
He's like, all right, nerds, get out your special socks.
It's about to happen.
Yeah.
And then when they were in the car and after the whole educated wish thing and he's like
freaking Logan just rips into Wade like no other.
And then he just like looks at him dead silent.
He's like, what?
You got nothing to say?
Mouth.
And he's like, I'm going to fight you now.
And then freaking pops him in the face.
Dude, I know this was like this is more for writing.
But like that scene right before they started fighting, that was another one where I was
like almost about to start tearing up because that was like you got a lot for like you all
of a sudden you're like, oh yeah, Hugh Jackson or Hugh Jackman is like a really good actor.
And he is like really selling this.
Like it was like, oh, and the fact that Deadpool didn't say anything to that, I was like, oh,
my God, like this, this, that scene was so much better because he like he just didn't
have any smart ass thing to say and even calls him out on it.
And then yeah, like you said, when he's like, I'm going to punch you now.
Like that's it was funny.
But like it was also like heartbreaking because he wasn't do he wasn't saying that to be funny.
He was saying that because he's like, you really touched a nerve with me that I don't
know if anybody else can really touch with him except for maybe Vanessa.
So it's like, I don't know.
He frickin went for the schnutz, dude.
That wasn't great.
There was that there was what he had with X 23.
Like, like that broke my heart.
Yeah, it was that it was so good.
It was also good, dude.
It was such a good explanation of why he was wearing the suit.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
That like that couldn't have been written it or any.
Gosh, damn it.
We're getting into writing.
I know.
It's a story I'm giving a 94.
Like I said, only issues where it's like the TV exposition stuff.
But besides that, it was damn near flawless.
Yeah, I guess I have to put mine on here.
Yeah, I'm giving it a 95.
Like I yeah, I don't know what else to say.
I mean, there's by the way, I feel like we'll eventually get to everything.
But like there's so much that we still haven't even got to in this movie yet.
But same as Caleb 94.
Yeah, getting in getting into writing the.
Yeah, that freaking explanation for why he's wearing the suit and that it's more now.
It's like he's cursing himself with the suit.
Yeah, he's a suit is his own like how he flogs himself.
Like he looks down and it's just there.
And then at the end when she's like, you were never the right guy, I was like, oh, my God.
And then at the very, very end, when like you actually get to hear the what fully what
she said, she's like, you were never the right guy until you needed to be.
And it was like, oh, my God, like, I not to skip again.
But as far as character development, like he like you got to see a real like an arc
that I don't feel like you get to see in in comic book movies very often like this.
Like I feel like for the most part, like they're they they end how they start.
Like they're kind of like.
But I mean, this version of Logan was I don't know if I can say my favorite because it's
been a while since I actually watched the movie, Logan.
But if it's not number one, it's number two.
Oh, man, dude, I feel.
That they could have given us a flashback.
I was I was so looking forward to one like I was kind of hoping for it, but I feel like
they could have given us a little bit of a flashback and that could have made like just
punch a little bit harder.
But and you really want to cry, didn't you?
I know.
I was fricking well enough, dude.
It was no joke.
But I think there's just something about like the hearing the screams from like the frickin
shadows was haunting.
Are you talking about whenever she was what's her face?
Cassandra?
Is that what you know?
But you're talking about whenever she was like reaching into his brain or whatever.
OK, so that's what I was talking about earlier.
Like so whenever she is looking through Deadpool's brain or, you know, looking through that TVA
agents brain, like it's clearly going back from their life.
But when she goes through Logan's brain, like one of the things that they flashback to is
from Wolverine Origins or whatever that movie is called, where it's I think it's him and
it's him and dead like old Deadpool, like up on on top where they're having that fight.
Am I wrong about that?
I think that's right.
Because that's like that because there's there's this spot with whenever she is like grabbing
in his brain, like where she talks to him is like by those like pillars or whatever.
And but when they like they do like just some quick flashes back to his life and it does
show like scenes from that movie.
So that, by the way, that's why I I'm excited to watch this again to see if I catch that
same hair.
Yeah.
So I don't know, because I I could be wrong because again, I but the thing that I that
I watched online was someone just like showing showing scenes.
So I I don't know.
I the way you guys are looking at me right now, I'm like, am I remembering this right?
Or am I just did I just get got by the Internet?
I don't know if they did any like official flashbacks because those those pillars, I
think are supposed to be like marked graves for all the X-Men.
That by the way, just that whole story still, it was like, you know, I wasn't there.
And I started killing people who you killed the bad guys, not just the bad guys like,
oh, Logan, no.
Dude, the frick the gut punch, dude, the frickin gut punch.
Seriously, the movie did not play around, dude.
No, no.
And by the way, another great moment that he had was with Cassandra Nova when he was
saying like Charles would have ripped the ripped the universe in half if he knew that
you existed to just bring you home.
He loved me and he would have loved you like that was again, like gut wrenching.
Yeah, it was.
Oh, my gosh.
But yeah, the emotional moments frickin hit hard and like just as hard as the frickin
comedy did.
Like there was no there was nothing where like this shit didn't like it hit where it
needed to hit.
Yes.
And like this just has to do with how well the frickin writing was, which spoiler alert,
I'm giving it a ninety eight because it was damn near flawless.
I'm giving it a ninety nine.
Oh, apparently I'm going to be the asshole when you go in ninety seven.
Okay.
Yeah, dude.
But there was so many jokes in this.
Oh, frickin the nice pool when he's just like doing the fourth wall breaks and he's just
he just looks over he's like the proposal.
I can do a soft fourth wall break to the proposal.
Is that what you think I do?
Oh, he's like he's like if anything should ever happen to you and you know, dogpool needs
a new home is like, what would ever happen to me?
He's like, oh, I don't know.
Lots of things.
Kind of like the one that DJ touched upon favorite line in the movie when Deadpool's
they're in the void.
They're about to do their first fight and Wade's just like, you know, fuck it.
Let's give them what the people what they came for.
Logan's just like, let's fucking go.
Wade looks at the camera, get your pets, get your special sock ready nerds.
This is gonna be good.
I fucking lost it.
Oh, in the very first fight when they when was that the first fight?
Was that the first time they fought or was that I think that was the first time that
I'm thinking of the second time.
It's whenever you see Logan get down in like the official Wolverine, like on all fours
to like jump at him.
That is the first fight.
Yeah, that's the first one.
I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
He was right.
I should have I should have brought my special sock because this is great.
This is amazing, dude.
We got so much of that, like the freaking the bus sequence where they're just butchering
all of those other Deadpools and then they jump out of the back window and he's like
in the frickin like, dude, I was like, save that for later.
Doesn't Deadpool say like, oh, man, my my pose wasn't good enough or some shit like
that.
He like tripped and fell.
And he's like, I have one shot at this.
That's all people are going to remember.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, for oh frickin when you know, you get a lecture, then you get Blade and then you
get a Gambit frickin when because, you know, kudos to Channing Tatum because he actually
did the you know, the accent right.
But you know, the joke is that you can't understand him.
And frickin Deadpool is just like, I'm sorry, beautiful.
I want this to come across as, you know, since sincere and genuine.
Who's your dialect coach?
The minions who are missing.
We're missing important exposition here.
Or the very beginning when he's like, he's like, listen, it's been a while since I've
seen Sling Blade.
Can you give me that one again?
I love the frickin callback about or with because Ryan Reynolds and Wesley Snipes had
this this whole joke going on, like all throughout the production of Blade that they didn't like
each other.
And so when when Wes or when Blade like looks at Deadpool, he's like, I don't like you.
He's like, you never did.
That was just a reference to the joke.
Listen, I've also heard some people say well, before I forget, I just want to say when he
was when they were in the van and he was driving with Wolverine and he's just like Deadpool's
in the back and he's like, he's like, stop.
I was like, I would I don't don't don't don't tempt me with Spider-Man in this movie, too,
because I'll die.
Dude, I would have swore I'm like, if we see a Spider-Man, I am going to shit myself.
I will cry all over all of you people.
People were like, like, like hot or cold on Electra being there and like being like the
the de facto leader.
I love that, by the way.
I when when she was the first one to roll out, I was like, yes.
And then when they were talking about who all died, they were like and blah and Daredevil
and he said, oh, I'm so sorry.
And she's like, it's all right.
What a job at Ben Affleck.
Yeah, that was perfect.
Like that was worth it just for that one joke.
The frickin when you know, after Deadpool and Wolverine have their fight, you know, you
get introduced to Johnny Storm and they meet the others for the void and Deadpool's just
like hyping up.
He's just like, oh, my God, he's going to say he's going to say the best line in like
the frickin world.
He says, Flamon, he's like, excuse me, what?
He's like Avengers, a Sabin, Flamon.
You're like, what?
Because, by the way, I so I had that spoiled that Chris Evans was in it.
It completely lost my I lost the thread on the fact that he was Johnny Storm.
And so I did get God because whenever I saw good, whenever I saw the like the blue and
the red, I was like, oh, my God, Captain America is going to be in this.
That's crazy.
And I got to tell you, I was glad that it wasn't.
I was so much happier that it was Johnny Storm because I don't want to see cap in that movie.
Dude, I love that.
Like I was I was fooled, too, because I'm like, oh, shit, because he I mean, they frickin
got us going good because they were playing the Captain American theme song.
They were like they were and then they had like the the blue with the red bands.
I'm like, oh, shit.
Like, is this so like I thought it was going to be like a Mad Max style like cap.
I was like, OK, cool, cool.
Then he starts cursing and you're like, wait a minute.
Yeah, I'm like, you're dead.
Well, it's like like you see him kind of do a double take.
But holy shit, dude.
My OK, so my favorite joke and this is because I frickin own a Honda Odyssey.
It's when Wolverine and Deadpool are fighting and Deadpool gets frickin knocked to the back
of the the van.
He like sits there for a second and he's just like, you know what?
He fucks.
I'm like, dude, that's that's like going to be my frickin catchphrase in that damn van
now.
I love that.
That was a great scene, like because it was it was Greece the whole thing, right?
Like they basically had the like that was I I just.
It was such a good scene.
It was such a good fight scene, like it reminded me of what is it?
It reminded me of like.
You know how like the first time you saw the Daredevil hallway scene, you were like, oh
my God, I didn't know Marvel was capable of this.
Like this was to me, that was like somehow they were able to squeeze the hallway scene
into a Honda Odyssey.
Dude, it was perfection because they like they were frickin throwing each other out,
like out of the car.
And then he like stands up and just charges back in like this fight is the shit.
And then I love like at the end when they're just like fighting all night and the Deadpool
is just like wrapped up.
Yeah.
My my my favorite, my two favorite jokes.
Well, my some of my favorite jokes was when Deadpool was like lying on Johnny Storm to
Cassandra Nova, like you should have heard the things he was saying about you and just
like just roasted this lady.
And then she just snapped and his skin's gone.
And he's like, do you know what he was doing to the budget?
Like he's fine.
And then the end credit scene.
Like Johnny Storm's actually saying all of that was, I mean, perfection because I had
no idea.
I thought they were going to like do like a remake of the first one to be like of the
first Deadpool and be like, you're still here.
What are you doing?
It's another Ferris Bueller reference, but nope.
Dude, my favorite frickin line from that whole sequence is when he's talking about gargling
juggernauts juggernauts.
Oh, shit.
Mine was regenerate.
The nice pool when he's like, how long does it take you to regenerate?
He's just blood regenerate.
Oh, my gosh.
Dog pool was frickin hilarious.
Mary Puppins.
By the way, it was Blake Lively that was Lady Deadpool.
And it was both of his kids playing kid pool and baby Deadpool or baby pool or whatever
it was.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
That was fantastic.
And I love that he like yells when he's laughing.
He's like, what are you laughing at?
You little fucker.
For a minute, I was like, me and Beth, both were like, I think they kill that baby.
I thought they were going to to I was actually looking out.
I'm like, what do they do to the kid?
That's crazy.
They can't kill a baby.
And so Michael Myers won't kill a baby, but I get maybe Deadpool will.
What is it?
Matthew McConaughey was supposedly the voice for Cowboy Deadpool or Cowboy Pool.
That makes sense.
Perfection.
Oh, man.
I love that everyone frickin like stopped with when Peter came in and was right.
That's like a Deadpool suit.
Is that Peter?
Yeah, that was Peter.
Peter's the shit.
Oh, my God.
Like every Deadpool has a Peter.
And then you just do the frickin bulge on his suit.
That was hilarious.
Was ridiculous.
Have fun with my Peter.
I freaking loved when B-15 was like super into Peter.
She's like, you look damn good in that suit.
Well, oh, my God.
How about the dude at the TVA when as soon as Deadpool got his suit on and he was like,
this guy knows what I'm talking about.
His pants are getting real tight.
He's like, I'm calling H.R. or he's like, he's on the phone.
He's like, who you calling your wife?
Calling H.R.
Does your wife work in H.R.?
And then he starts falling ass first to him and the guys.
Oh, my God.
So great.
Oh, dude or the damn the suit up was hilarious.
And he comes after he's like comes out and he's just like, oh, yeah, like the suit feels
great.
Your tailor is a predator.
He smacked his ass like what, six times?
Like a bunch of times.
Oh, my God.
Funniest shit, dude.
Funniest shit.
Yeah, that is exactly why writing is getting a 98 out of me.
I skipped.
OK, wait a minute.
Then did you guys stay your scores for Friday?
Yeah, I'm giving writing a ninety nine because it's just too it's too I mean.
It's as Deadpool as you can be like I might even talk myself into a hundred before we're
done.
All right.
And then Rose, you're at a so I was at a ninety six, but now I'm talking myself up to a ninety
seven.
It's too freaking good.
All right.
Moving on over to acting going through this cast list, we have Ryan Reynolds who plays
Wade Wilson, a.k.a.
Deadpool.
We got Hugh Jackman who returned to play Logan slash Wolverine and all Wolverine variants.
We got Emma Corrin who played Cassandra Nova.
We got Matthew McFadden who played Mr. Paradox.
The rogue TVA agent.
And then then we got Rob Delaney who played Peter or Peterpool at the end.
We had a bunch more that were like significant roles, but it's like also not like it was
weird placement for them.
But we can include them in the top three.
So if you guys feel so inclined.
So what's everyone's top three look like?
I mean, I'll say mine first if you'd like or I'll wait.
Yeah.
All right.
It's in the order that you showed it.
It is in fact, Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackson and the girls whose name I forgot that played.
Yeah.
Emma Corrin.
Like that was I loved her.
I loved her like the villain that she played.
Like that was again, it was like Christian Bale level.
It was like who was the guy on volume three?
Guardians of the Galaxy volume three.
Like it wasn't as like over the top as either of those two.
But like it was like especially when she was going through the mind of Mr. Paradox or Agent
Paradox.
Oh my gosh, dude.
So gross.
Like her fingers like going around his eyeballs and then she grabs him up and like drags him
in there to get the time.
Dude, I mean, she that was amazing.
I love that.
And she looked by the way, I mean, what's crazy is like she was supposed to be Xavier's
twin.
She looked like Xavier from the cartoons like back in the 90s cartoon.
She looks straight up.
You're a twin.
Like it was I loved it.
Like she was great.
She was so good.
But yeah, her powers were so gross.
Crazy.
Yeah.
They like I had like a frickin just guttural moment when she started doing that to Walt
or to Deadpool.
I was like, oh, yeah, like hard to watch.
Oh my gosh.
And then she just shows off how frickin powerful like like her power set like was frickin
ridiculous.
Because she freaking dude.
And I was like, OK, cool.
Like we just got another like telekinetic baddie.
Like, all right, cool.
And then she frickin ripped the skin off of the human torch.
And I was in a split second to like just snapped and it was gone.
Like she was I don't know.
She did amazing.
Yeah.
She just frickin like slams Wolverine into the ground and then just drags him across
the floor.
Like he's like in Bugs Bunny.
Yeah.
Oh, man, dude.
It was rough to watch.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Who all right.
Who is your favorite cameo then?
Gambit Gambit all the way Channing Tatum.
Like if we're going not those top three, if we're going like everybody else, top three,
it is it's it's got to be more than top three because it's the new X force.
It's the team that showed up to Cassandra Nova's like it was Blade.
It was Electra.
It was Gambit.
It was X 23.
Like I loved that.
I hate that we will probably never see that team together ever again to do anything else.
Like I I'm glad we got to see that.
I loved I loved seeing that so much.
Oh, so good.
It was so good.
Gambit was the biggest surprise and I appreciated the hell out of it.
But my my top favorite was seeing Chris Evans come back as Johnny Storm.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I take it all back.
What I said for all that, that's my number two.
Chris Evans, definitely number one, dude, because that's exactly how I imagined that
version of Johnny Storm talking with me.
Yeah.
Especially how long had he been in the void?
Yeah.
I was really hoping because I heard a bunch of rumors that Michael Chickless was going
to be in this.
I was praying that we were going to get him back.
I would have lost my mind, dude.
Could you imagine the banter from those two?
Oh, dude, I would have loved to see all four of them back, but especially Lone Gruffudd
because I just love his Mr.
Fantastic so much.
Like next to Hawkeye, Mr.
Fantastic is probably my second favorite superhero.
So like any chance I get to see him again, that would have just been amazing.
That would have been awesome, dude.
But yeah, I don't know if like Susan Storm would have fit in that well, because I would
have loved to see her back.
But I don't know if she like it would have just felt like they just were bringing back
all the Fantastic Four, and I'm like, I understood why they couldn't.
But I would have loved to see like freaking Mad Max fan or human torch and thing.
The banter between those two would be impeccable.
Amazing.
By the way, we didn't mention it in writing because I never saw Furiosa, but that was
amazing when they cut off Sabretooth's head and he came back.
I have slain your queen, Furiosa.
Oh, my gosh.
So great.
This movie was so good.
What do you guys give in the acting scores?
Wait, did you guys do your top threes as well or you just agree?
No, that I mean, that was fine, too.
I exactly three.
So I'm going to be different than with mine.
All right.
So Emma Corrin's get number three amazing villain.
She was fantastic, but number two, I'm actually giving a Ryan Reynolds.
Like, don't get me wrong.
Loved him as Deadpool.
As always, he was born to play this role.
He was fantastic as always.
But Hugh Jackman's Logan Wolverine in this movie is doing wrong.
I love Logan, but this is my favorite Wolverine that I've ever seen in play.
He was amazing.
The emotional scenes that we had, the banter that he had with Deadpool and just like, especially
the part where like he's like getting charged up like what, you know, DJ pointed out and
like when he says, let's fucking go, I just I lost it.
Like, yeah, freaking Hugh Jackman's number one for me.
Yeah, I'm changing mine to that.
I forgot.
I got too swept up in the fact that it's Deadpool three.
But yeah, you're 100 percent right.
Like Hugh Jackman.
Like till you're 90, but I agree with you guys.
Gambit definitely like number one cameo and the Johnny Storm second.
But all of them are great.
They were all fantastic.
Yeah, I'm keeping the original.
I'm going Ryan, Hugh, then Emma with Johnny as my number one favorite cameo.
Oh, man.
So good.
What are you guys giving for the acting score?
I feel like it's going to be a high again.
I'm going to go a 98.
That's what I'm going to go.
I think I'm going to be at like a 96.
I felt like everyone fit or like slipped into their previous roles so effortlessly.
And like the people that obviously like that didn't do super great.
Jennifer Gardner, her original Electra was kind of meh.
I thought she was super cool in this version.
Like freaking loved her, dude.
And her suit was bitching.
Yeah, her suit was great.
But they did so good.
They did so freaking good.
But yeah, I know I talked myself up.
I think I'm going to go with Caleb's original score 96.
Oh, man.
All right.
Moving on over to character development.
And I feel like this could obviously be done on Deadpool and Wolverine as a team.
Like, it'd be hard to do one or the other.
Yeah.
But well, it would be hard.
Yes and no, because like I think Deadpool, I think he did have an arc and it was there.
But that arc was a little softer than Logan's because even though like that's what's so
crazy about Hugh Jackman is like he did this character and he literally buried it and put
it in the ground and was like, I acted my ass off and I told everyone how this dude
story ends and then he did it again and he did it somehow as good or better than it was
already done because this dude had given up.
Like he didn't even have Xavier to take care of.
He was just done.
And the world hated him.
Everyone hated him.
He hated himself.
Like it was over for him.
And this is Wolverine at his prime.
Yes.
Like I think that's what Frick, like if there's anything that puts it above Logan, it's that
because the Logan that we saw in Logan was like an old weathered slowly being poisoned
Logan.
Yeah.
So we didn't get to see him at his peak.
I mean, technically you get to see X 24, but yeah, but that's that's different.
Doesn't count.
Like this was the Wolverine that we all wanted to see just brutal R rated at his freaking
prime in the freaking yellow and blue suit.
Like I will never be able to get over that suit.
And when they when he finally does put on the mask at the end, when he pulls the cow
on and oh my God, like, oh man, what is what do you say?
He's like, what's the what's the wind speed on those blowjob handles?
You save all the good shit for the for the conclusion.
He was like killing mostly.
But like that's it.
Like even like how much he even though he didn't know X 23, like how much he ended up
opening up to her, how much I mean, he technically, even though it was out of anger, like opened
up to Wade during the Odyssey fight and then how he kind of like came came all the way
around with him at the end when he was like, call it an educated wish and was going in
there to sacrifice himself to so that Wade could go home.
Like that was the guy that was at the end of that movie was absolutely not the guy that
was at the beginning of that movie as far as Logan goes.
So I don't know.
Like that was it was called Deadpool and Wolverine.
But this was and it was a Deadpool and Wolverine movie.
But this was like a sneaky Wolverine movie.
Oh, yeah.
I think they split the like with it being titled Deadpool and Wolverine.
I feel like they split the the story time pretty well, obviously leading more towards
Deadpool.
But the weird thing and the one thing I will say, we probably should have said this during
story, but it's like basically like everyone that Deadpool was fighting to get back to,
like it sucks because they kind of don't fit into where this character is going in any
way, shape or form like none of them, like maybe Colossus and Negasonic Teenage Warhead.
But Dazzler definitely does not like none.
Vanessa kind of really Vanessa could.
But they've definitely made that ambiguously weird.
And I don't know.
Like it's I wonder what the next movie is going to be like with Deadpool if there will
be even one.
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman have actually recently come out and said that they are both
very interested in doing a movie with Tom Holland.
I let's go.
Please, God, let it just let it we saw what happened.
The box office has been amazing for this this movie.
Like it's on track to be like another one billion dollar rated R movie.
Like please, God, let this happen.
Like you know what I would love to do?
I would love to see that turn this into like like a double duo where you get Deadpool and
Spider-Man because that would be just the best.
But I would also love to see Wolverine and Colossus.
I would like I want to see the Fastball special.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I was going to say I was like, well, they could do the Fastball special.
Yeah.
I would also like to see Peter interacting with Logan.
I'm not going to lie.
I feel like that would be fantastic.
And I mean, Deadpool, I it's funny because before this movie came out, I had just seen
like on TikTok, it showed like, you know, sometimes it'll show like a whole run of like
a comic arc.
And it showed the one of Deadpool and Peter Parker, where Peter Parker had actually like
died, but are almost died.
And then he Deadpool ended up like infusing some of his blood into him because he loves
Peter so much.
And I don't know, like just thinking about how much like when he again, I said it already
when he was doing the like, I wanted to see Spider-Man and Deadpool together.
By the way, even if it wasn't Tom Holland, it could have been Andrew Garfield.
I would have loved to see any iteration of Spider-Man, dude.
I would if I had to make my choice of the three, I think I'd actually pick Garfield
over Holland.
It's that's one and two, by the way.
I know Garfield's Gar.
I would love to see Garfield's Spider-Man with with Deadpool.
Yeah, I think that would be amazing.
I think Holland's Holland's Parker with Deadpool would be pretty funny.
Yes.
Yeah, because Garfield's Garfield's Spider-Man is like, especially the one that we now know
from No Way Home is like they would they would get along in a weird way because, you know,
he's gone to the dark side as well.
So I feel like they'd be able to match the comic relationship a bit better with Holland.
Yeah, or maybe even I think Toby McGuire.
He's too old now for all that.
Like he seems like somebody's dad.
Like he does not see he seems like he would be unamused by Wade Wilson in every way, where
I feel like Spider-Man is like he's not he doesn't hate Wade.
He just is confused by Wade, but it's like we you're you're you're not a bad guy.
Dude, I would love to see them.
There's a Deadpool and Spider-Man comic that I would love for them to adapt where the this
this coven of witches kidnap Deadpool and like tie him up and they perform this spell
on him.
And what they're trying to do is they're trying to summon death.
Like to I don't know what for what reason, but they're trying to some more out.
You know, yeah, I think it's something along those lines, but they're trying to summon
death and they perform this spell on Deadpool while he's tied up.
That's meant to summon his his soul's partner and they perform the ritual and everything.
And he's just like, I don't know if this is going to go.
You guys think it is.
And then the spell finishes and Spider-Man pops out of the smoke and he's just like,
what the hell?
And then Spider-Man beats up all the witches freeze Deadpool and then they go off on their
adventure and I'm like, that's exactly how I'd want this to happen.
I want them to try and like, I don't know, summon someone from from Deadpool's.
Yeah, I was gonna say Doctor Strange can do that.
By the way, we missed the I saw this on like a breakdown.
I had to mention this.
The sling ring that Cassandra Nova uses.
Did you notice this?
Because I didn't notice it at the time.
Apparently there were like at least two infinity stones on it.
And that's how she was able to not only let them out of the void, but put them like back
into into the like the what is it the 1001 or five, like whatever whatever universe she
put them back into.
Like that's how she was able to.
Yeah.
Wow.
I did not catch that.
But that makes sense.
There you go.
I will say that theory does clash with with Loki though.
I don't know how.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But that's in the TVA.
So I don't know how the infinity stones work in the void.
So OK, it works.
I had to do that mental math, but it worked.
Yeah.
One of the greatest scenes in Loki when he's like, what do you have infinity stones?
He's like, yeah, we use them as paperweights.
So good.
Sorry.
Yeah.
This is honestly I think character development overall may be the weakest part of the movie.
And it's it's still freaking high for me because Logan's arc was incredible.
And honestly, I think I'm sitting like 92 with that one.
Yeah, I was going to I was going 94.
So yeah, I'm going to match DJ literally everything that you guys said.
Like Deadpool is still Deadpool at the end of this movie, which that's great.
That's awesome.
And you know, the the character arc that they take him on throughout the movie with wanting
to save his world is great.
But like, you know, you get some very nice emotional moments with him.
But you know, Wade Wilson is still going to be Wade Wilson, which is fantastic.
Love that.
But I feel what really like and you know, like Caleb said, you know, the story is evenly
split between Deadpool and Wolverine.
But like when it comes to like a the character that gets the most character arc, definitely
that film goes to Wolverine because like I didn't think that they could top it with Logan.
But hell, they did it with this movie for how much they put frickin Logan through like,
God damn no shit.
All right.
Next I was going to just one last thing I was going to say with Wade Wilson, like no,
I don't think anyone like is looking for character development out of Deadpool.
Like so it's not crazy to it's not like you're not disappointed that he ended where he began.
You're like, yeah, he was a frickin smart ass guy that just, you know, flies by the
seat of his pants and is really good at what he does.
And very likable guy.
He's still that at the end.
So there you go.
Merc with the mouth.
He still is that.
So we got it.
I don't know.
I this is one of those rare times I think you can have someone with no character arc
and that's exactly what their character is supposed to do is not really have an arc.
Yeah, dude.
Honestly, I feel like dead put like what Vanessa was looking for out of Deadpool was just for
him to go back to who he was.
I think he was just trying so hard to be someone else and that he lost track of who he was.
I think that was Vanessa's problem with it because she's like, oh, I want you to matter
or I want you to do something that's bigger than yourself and everything.
And I think he was already kind of doing that unless I'm excited for this rewatch tomorrow
just so I could like really get a firm grasp on what that whole deal was supposed to be
about.
To me, that's why the writing doesn't quite make it to like a hundred because it's like
and I mean, that's why I say it sucks that they had they like have these characters still
from like the first movie still around because like they're good.
They're important.
Like they were like part of why you care about who Deadpool is, you know, from these movies.
But it's hard to kind of like you can't just drop them away, but you kind of have to go
like, all right, well, we need a reason for them to like not really be around.
And maybe we can tie that into why he wants to do whatever it is he wants to do.
So we get how Vanessa felt about that, which again, watching the first Deadpool again,
like that that's what sucks the most is like that is not Vanessa's character at all.
Like she would like when you look what happens when she gets when he gets cancer.
Like he she immediately just goes into like what is it fight mode and is like, all right,
we're going to beat this thing.
We're going to do it together.
We're going to and even after he leaves and comes back, like she's you know, she's hurt.
She's upset about what happens, but she is understanding and is like, all right, let's
let's make this work.
Let's keep going.
So I don't know.
Like it's it stinks.
They kind of yeah, they kind of did the original cast a little dirty.
I'm wondering how they how that cast felt about their role in this with how small it
actually was.
Except for blind Al, she had the always blind.
I'm moving on over to effects, which this will also not get a 100 because of one scene
and one scene only.
Can you tell me what scene it was, guys?
You know, and I know we already talked about it.
It was it was the coolest slash like what is happening here scene was near the end.
They were fighting in a bus and they jumped out of a bus and then Wolverine's arms turned
into these weird Gumby like undefined arm things.
And I was like, I remember even what I was like, what the hell is this?
Like did they just spend all of the budget up until right now and go like, ah, we have
no arm budget.
Sorry.
You know, speaking of that, I actually didn't notice that.
I didn't either.
But like, like now that you're thinking like, because I've been thinking about that, like
specific scene, like when they're in like the final fight, and I've watched it many
times.
It just for me, it just feels a little off when he's putting he's pulling up the cowl
and putting it on.
Yeah, because it comes out in nowhere.
Okay.
Okay, I'm not the only one that it just like, I don't like, like I know that they try to
make it look as not CGI as they could, as he's pulling it up.
But it just still feels a little unnatural.
Like it's great when it's finally on, like don't get wrong.
It's fantastic.
But as he's pulling it up, I'm just like, okay, this is like every single time I watch
him, like I can't get on board of like, if this looks like, like actual real, it's still
I still see a little CGI there.
The thing that threw me off when he put the cowl on is I was like, I was like, Oh, why
can't he must not have the mask on all the way yet, because I can't see his eyes yet.
And I was like, Oh, they're doing the same thing where it's just his eyes are whited
out.
Okay, gotcha.
Gotcha.
Yeah, what are you looking at?
When they jump out, I'm telling you, if you're just looking at a picture of it, it doesn't
do justice to what was happening when they were actually jumping out of the back of the
bus.
And I'm telling you Hugh Jackman's arms, like they just looked strange.
I'll say one of his arms does.
The one arm, both of his arms.
Yeah, I'm watching a clip of just like, I will say he does have it like a bit high,
where it does feel unnatural.
But that's also where Wolverine usually has his arms.
I don't know, man.
Like that was it was the only like, again, it's like, it's a small gripe, but it was
just the fact that it was like, it like slow mo lingered on it.
I was like, I had time to look and be like, what the hell is happening here?
Like, why couldn't they like, don't do slow motion if you're not going to like, really
kill it on this.
Yeah, I will say the only thing I didn't.
This is a costume issue.
Never mind.
But other than that, like, and I mean, that's to me a small gripe, like I there was to me
the effects in this were like flawless.
They were super good.
There's definitely some like rubberiness happening happening.
But that's just because I felt any of the like the rubbery looking stuff is because there
was just either unnatural movement that like human beings are incapable of doing.
So like Wolverine, like on all fours, like crawling towards Wolverine, like Deadpool,
like that had moments of looking at.
But I'm like, it looks that way because human beings can't do that.
Yeah.
And that was a majority of the issues I had.
Like everything else, like up close or just other things that were supposed to look fake
or not look fake.
Like I'm just thinking like baby baby pool, like looked like a very CGI baby.
And I'm like, yeah, you couldn't just have like a frickin actual baby or maybe the head
pool was great.
Nathan Fillion, that that should have been an honorary top three.
He did head pool.
Yes.
No, shit.
Awesome.
That's fantastic.
Yes.
Yeah, I.
By the way, it's a little thing, but one of the effects that I liked a lot was like whenever
they stole Juggernaut's helmet and put it on her, like the way that they showed that
it was like dampening her was like those like little heat waves coming off of it.
Oh, yeah.
That you could just tell, like she was so even still she was so powerful, like that
it was something was still trying to happen there.
And I don't know.
It was that was good.
Like again, the sling ring stuff was good.
The TVA, like their portals or whatever you call them, that they however they travel,
like those look just as good as they did in the show, if not better.
Like it was.
Yeah, it was all I liked all of it.
Yeah, same here.
Johnny Storm looked great as the human torch.
Dude, that fall when frickin Pyro took his flames was brutal.
I'm like, oh shit.
This is why I was kind of pleasantly surprised that we got more Johnny Storm because I'm
like, oh shit, they just murdered him.
But do Pyro was so cool.
Yes, that's very cool.
Like he was I found him so annoying in the X-Men movies.
I'm like, gosh, what a bratty little kid.
And then in this, I'm just like, OK, now he's pretty badass.
And then I liked when he was like going to like confront Cassandra and then Deadpool just
frickin knocks his ass out or someone knocks his ass out.
He's like, not everyone gets a dialogue.
Yeah.
Which I think was back Gandalf.
Huh?
Oh yeah.
When he's just like when he's asking, oh, how are you doing?
And he said, no speaking roles.
And then he says something and he's like, are you improv?
You son of a bitch.
I like to when they first went to the void, I was reminded of it now just looking up at
your wall, the the old school Captain America shield.
Like when you look like one of the first things you see is that the cap shield and then Thor's
helmet helmet.
Yeah.
You see like there's like an old helicarrier that's back there.
It looks like it looks like a Pirates of the Caribbean ship was there, which was I guess
I guess Disney.
So maybe it is.
Maybe it was Pirates of the Caribbean.
I don't know.
I guess you would put that in effects.
I don't know.
Yeah.
That just makes me think of the comic accurate Loki.
Like from the show, you mean where the giant horns?
Yeah.
I'm like, dude, that's like that's his Thor.
Yeah, for sure.
And by the way, that was that was probably my favorite Loki in that that season.
Like well of the variants.
Like I mean, obviously he had his swan song, but like I thought that was going to be the
goofiest one.
But that was I love that guy, dude, that especially like how much he showed off his power.
Yes.
Like so good.
Like this.
That just made me want a 100% comic accurate Avengers.
Yes, I would love to see that.
Even if it was just like a short like a 30 minute like the Avengers fight, whatever.
Yeah, exactly.
Like I want the freaking flat headed Hulk.
I want Wolverine or Hawkeye and his freaking cowl, like which they've proven that that
damn cowl works.
True.
I mean, listen, if we can do werewolf by night, we can do old school Avengers.
Yeah, I want I want a freaking Golden Age Avengers, a half hour of just all of like
the highlight moments from the first Avengers film just reenacted with 100% comic accuracy.
That would be beautiful, dude.
That would be amazing.
But effects like I'm docking for some of the rubberiness.
It's not digging it as much as other MCU films because I feel like they were able to keep
it limited to the scenes where people are moving extra or what's it called?
Listen, it was no Modoc in Doctor Strange's third eye levels of like what is happening?
Yeah, like everything felt very consistent and on par with what was going on.
So I'm sitting at a solid 96.
Yeah, I think I'm going to match you on that one.
I'm going to be at a 94 personally, because I'm sorry, just like don't get me wrong, it
didn't take me out of the scene, but just that the way that the cowl just go, he pulls
it up and it goes over.
Just it took me out just for a minute.
Like if I'm going to be honest, just for a minute.
But once it's on, like it's great.
It's fantastic.
But just the motion like it was it just it took me out too much CGI there.
Fair enough.
Like you said, this is a costume issue.
And honestly, it's probably not going to even talk.
So I'll bring it up now.
I felt like Wolverine's eyes were just a tad too big.
Like the on the cowl.
I think they needed to shrink him a hair and then it would have been like pure perfection.
It felt like they were bulging out of the mask a little bit.
Like yeah, like bulging.
Like I said, all they need to do is just shrink it a little.
Yeah.
Like you think that they would have.
I mean, I don't know how it was with the costume design, but I thought that they would have
just taken inspiration from how Deadpool's white eyes are because that's perfection.
Those look fantastic.
Well, maybe that's what I'm thinking that they did.
I think they just took Deadpool's because Deadpool's eyes are supposed to be bigger.
That's true.
But just like Deadpool's don't bulge out, though.
I don't think they do because it like with Wolverine, he has all that yellow.
And so it's just a small area of black.
And so the white just seems bigger.
And the Deadpool has all this black area.
And so his eyes, I feel like they could make his eyes bigger.
That's a good point.
We wouldn't even notice.
It's just with how little space like they were working with with with Wolverine.
Like I feel like and it's also sunken in to like the eyes are sunken into the.
The head.
So I think that was kind of counting against it, too.
So total minor gripe.
And like I said, not not even close to affecting the overall like score for the costumes.
So yeah.
All right.
Moving on over to what would you got?
Wait.
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
Sorry.
I'm losing my mind.
All right.
Moving on over to music.
Spoiler alert.
I'm just giving it a 10.
Like it touched all the musical spots in my brain.
I wanted it to.
And yes, sir.
It was perfect.
I got so excited when they start or when the the greatest showman song started in the in
the van.
I'm like, are they going to have a fight sequence to the greatest show?
And it was a little let down that they didn't.
But I felt like the music choices were still perfect.
Like the Grease song was perfect.
But yes, it would have been nice if it was the greatest show.
I think it would have added a level of humor to it.
I agree.
I it amazes me what he like Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman and Sean Liebe had to go through
to get Madonna to use her like a prayer song in this because like she does not license that
out to like literally anyone.
And so they had like they had to go to her house, sit down and just explain what what
their intention with using it was, how is going to play an important part in the movie.
And like, like it's amazing how they were able to make that song work because it's like
perfection throughout the movie the way they they incorporate that song.
But just like everything that they had to go through with like a prayer like that is
just frickin dedication.
And what's fantastic is a Ryan Reynolds was like, yeah, so we like when we sat down with
her, we like walked her through the sequence and everything and kind of showed her like
like a storyboard of how it would go.
And after we were done, she's like, you need to change this, this and this.
And she they're just like, OK.
And then they like looked into the changes and they're like, God damn it, that does make
it better.
Well, and wasn't there like one one last like they had had the scene pretty much done.
And she was like, yeah, there was one more change you need to do.
And they were like, and then it was the same thing.
They looked and they're like, damn it.
All right, we got to change this now, which is awesome.
By the way, I didn't realize this, too, because I saw him talking about it.
But I guess one of the reasons that she heard him heard them out about using the song or
any of it is that one of her kids is like a huge Deadpool fan.
So thank goodness.
That's awesome.
Dude, that song has been a frickin earworm since I've seen this movie.
Like I'll even frickin hum it at home.
Like it is just it's so good.
It is so frickin good.
And that like exactly I'm giving it a 10 to mainly because of that song.
But you frickin got in sinks.
Bye bye bye.
Madonna's like a prayer.
Like do Deadpool movies soundtracks are the bomb.
But you hit it right like at the beginning, Rose, like that the end, the all the like
behind the scenes from all the X-Men movies and they were playing good riddance like that
was like it was so good.
Like it's the only part of the movie I'm not looking forward to watching again because
I'm going to be like, I like I think I was probably like at a nine.
I was like more so lean, like maybe leaning towards the 10.
But that just sealed the deal.
That scene.
I'm like, I'm like tearing up over.
I legit started crying.
It was perfect.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Tans all around.
So good.
So frickin good.
All right.
Next up, we got costumes and I'm so pumped to talk about this one.
Starting off, I'm we got the frickin new X-Force.
All of dude frickin Gambit looks so frickin dope.
It looks so.
Yeah, that you can't get more comic accurate than that.
Like it's we were talking about it before.
Like it's everything like this would not have worked for an entire movie, but no, absolutely
not.
The use of this in this way is perfect.
Like it is it gives you that little taste.
He does everything you want him to do.
Like he uses the cards.
He uses the bow staff.
He just looks everything he did was great.
And you get rated R action with his powers.
So when he's throwing frickin playing cards at people's ankles and cutting his cutting
their legs out.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
So good.
And then the same thing with Blade Blade was the the shit.
We had the frickin boomerang, the boomerang knife or whatever.
Like the fuckers always trying to ice skate uphill.
And then frickin Jennifer Garner's Electra like has never looked better.
Yeah, never looked better.
And again, like did they got to do these characters justice?
Like I know we're not.
That's not what we're talking about.
It's the costumes.
Like just even just in the costumes, like got to do them all like Blade.
The fact that they got Wesley Snipes to do this and he doesn't look like just an old
man in a in a suit like he just still look like we're looking at a picture right now.
He still looks like Blade.
Like it's that was the most like and he has white in his hair.
Like he has a white strip and then he has white strip down his down his beard.
But dude, I watched this and I was like, oh shit, do I want Wesley Snipes to come back
as Blade?
By the way, we didn't mention the perfect they made the perfect joke in this in this
movie because if Mahershala Ali's move Blade movie never make never makes it.
This joke works.
And if that movie does come out, this joke still works because when he's like, I'm the
only one that's ever going to be Blade or whatever he says, I'm the only one that can
be me.
And Wade just looks at the camera like, okie dokie.
Like don't tell him.
But that's it.
Like because that movie is like maybe might not happen or at least might not happen anytime
soon.
So he might be the only Blade.
We'll see.
They have a bunch of shit that they need to incorporate.
I think what they're trying to do is turn the Blade movie into like a Midnight Suns.
So they're going to get Kit Harington's like Black Knight, Mahershala Ali's Blade, freaking
Moon Knight.
And I think they're going to try and find a ghost rider.
Like they're going to go freaking crazy.
Don't tell me that because I would love to see that.
I would too.
It's just crazy they've lost two directors already.
Yeah.
Haven't they lost a writer or two as well?
I think so.
Yeah.
It's not looking great.
Freaking get Wesley Snipes to do something on this movie.
Yes.
100%.
Anyway, just a better shot of his.
I don't know why, but when he initially came in, I felt like the mask kind of like squeezed
his face a bit too much.
But looking at like at least this shot, it looks perfect.
Great.
It looks exactly like it should.
Yeah.
Honestly, only complaint.
I wish his eyes would have stayed like black and purple the entire time.
Yeah, that looked awesome.
Dude, I'm so used to seeing Channing Tatum now with a buzz cut.
The one he has a full head of hair now throws me off.
Oh, man.
Dude, so good.
And I was all right.
Like I just like a while ago, I finished X-Men 97 and I was just I was fresh on that on Gambit.
And this this kind of hit me in the feels a bit.
Yeah, because I mean, I don't know who has or hasn't watched that.
But yeah, at the end of that, you're like, oh, no, I'm seeing Gambit now.
I'm sad.
At least he's still alive somewhere.
Yeah.
It's just crazy how long Channing Tatum was promised this role and it never happened.
But stepping around Reynolds and he made it happen.
Dude, Ryan Reynolds is frickin Marvel Jesus.
Yeah, he really yeah, he really is.
Because frickin even Wesley Snipes said, like, you know, I, I never thought that Marvel would
want me back.
And along came a call from Mr. Reynolds himself.
Yeah, it's like I heard him.
He got a text.
He said he got a text.
He's like, yeah, I got a text from Ryan and said, we need to talk.
And he's like, oh, shit.
Like, what could this be?
He's like, it's been like damn near 20 years since the dude reached out.
He's like, I frickin hate that guy.
And he's like, not really.
It's just a bit that we were that we had going on for Blade.
That is frickin hilarious.
I didn't I did not know about that.
So like that, I love that joke even more now.
And then we got frickin Deadpool's new MCU suit.
Looked fantastic.
Yeah.
I'm more vibrant red.
Wait, didn't you have the the the Deadpool belt buckle and do you have to do but no,
no, no, no.
Did he have it in Deadpool 2?
I don't know, because he didn't have it in one.
So I don't know if he had it in two or not.
I am going to look that up real quick.
Yeah, because that was he did but not like this.
So he had the the red circle with the line going down the middle, but it was like the
clips were the white part.
So it wasn't like eyes like this.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it was like the eyes were part of the clips.
This is just a straight up buckle.
Yeah, I love this suit.
Yeah.
And I love it.
I thought it was so cool once he stole nice pools, golden Glocks.
Oh my God.
Golden plated desert Eagles.
So freaking good.
And then, of course, the freaking prime time.
That was Wolverine's suit.
Perfection.
Oh my gosh.
It's so good.
What a great movie.
There's like only so much like I'd say forgiveness or like I think I stated it before and like
Despicable Me where you get a pass for like how good it is the first go round.
So obviously with Deadpool one, like the suit was awesome.
Like 10 out of 10 to was a little less.
So like two, I'd say is like maybe at an eight because it didn't really it was the same suit
just like a little bit more battered and stuff and they had juggernaut and whatnot.
But freaking this this added so many freaking outfits.
So taking into account Gambit freaking blade, Electra freaking even Laura's just putting
on those freaking gas station glasses for her little suit up.
That was I was I was hoping she was going to be in the yellow suit, too.
I'm very glad that she wasn't and just put on those glasses on my.
That hit me in the in the fields.
And then this suit, as soon as he put on the freaking cowl, I was here for it.
So 10 out of freaking 10.
Yes, sir.
100 percent.
So freaking good.
So good.
All right.
Last up personal scores.
Who's taken it first?
You guys talk better than I do.
So I'll just let you know I'm going to give this a 100 because I just it's again, it's
not exactly what I expected because I thought we were getting a you know, traveling through
time.
But man, this it hit every note that I wanted it to hit.
It was it did.
I don't remember if we said this on recording or not, but it's everything that multiverse
of madness wanted to be and never could be like.
It's just it's what it's exactly what you want, whether you realize it or not.
Like it's just such a good you know, it's crazy.
This is going to be somebody's first like MCU movie ever.
Like someone is going to watch this and be like they're going to not have watched any
real MCU stuff and they're going to watch this and be like, OK, like this is why he
is going to be Marvel.
Jesus is because I'm telling you, he is going to bring he's going to bring us all to the
promised land.
I promise you.
Like it's just I don't know.
I don't know how else to say it other than like this.
It met and exceeded my expectations, even though I had different ones for this movie.
So I loved it.
One hundred out of one hundred.
They'd fair enough.
Yeah, seriously.
I am like slightly lower at ninety eight.
This gosh.
Like you said, this this is multiverse of madness on frickin no way home level steroids.
Yes, like it is so good.
What multiverse of madness tried to do, I feel no way home did better.
And what no way home did Deadpool and Wolverine did better.
Yes.
And it was just pure perfection.
I love watching Deadpool Wolverine like like just I.
I see me watching this more than I watched no way home and I've watched no way home a
lot like this is what multiverse travel should be where because multiverse of madness he
trapped like what do you see three different variants of Doctor Strange?
Yeah, sounds right.
And then no variance of anyone else other like.
Like obviously you see like alternate versions of like Peggy Carter and when I'm not counting
those because it's just like I count those as one entity because you see one Peggy Carter,
you see one Charles Xate.
Like you only get one of everyone else and three Doctor Strange.
And I guess technically two Wanda's like multiverse of madness.
The expectation was that they were going to be traveling the multiverse going from universe
to universe to universe.
This did it so elegantly because it's like, hey, we just got all the people like the frickin
Fox rejects in one place and had a frickin party.
Yeah.
They did it to where instead of having to travel all through the multiverses, they were
like, oh, we had all these people purged from all the different multiverses and now they're
all here in this one spot.
Yeah.
And they could have made the justification for anyone.
Like that was like the perfect sandbox.
Like the void is the perfect Marvel sandbox because it's like you could pull whoever the
hell you want into there.
The stakes could be ridiculously high.
Isn't that where secret wars is supposed to take place?
I hope so.
Like that was I had heard that a while back, but like that, I mean, that would make sense
because that would be where something like a secret wars could take place because you
can't do that on Earth really because then how do you come back from that?
So I mean, I had heard it was rumored that that's where that was going to take place.
And I mean, now that they've introduced it into the MCU, it could happen.
Yeah, if all of these movies want to take place in the void, like I'm here.
I am sitting at a 98.
Like this is going to be one that I rewatch over and over and over and watch all the freaking
videos like Easter eggs you might have missed.
Yeah, that is what my life is going to be the second this movie comes to digital.
That's fair.
Me personally, I'm going to be just a little lower than you guys at 96.
This movie truly was everything that I wanted it to be and more.
I had just as fun with this one as I did with No Way Home.
I would personally put these on the same level because this is how you do these types of
these types of movies with these crossovers and bringing these two these different worlds
together.
What was cool, so I went and saw this with my buddy Ryan and he brought one of his friends
from a high school and during a couple of times during the movie, his friend reached
over he would lean over to Ryan and tell him something about a certain character or something.
And that just reminded me a lot of how me and Caleb used to be when we'd go see these
movies together pre end game and backwards from that and how we would just geek out with
each other and during certain moments.
We never disturbed anybody but we would just like fricking like nudge each other or shit
like that.
Clap the shit out of each other.
Bro, bro.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I'll forgive them just doing that just like reminded me of that and just brought back
great memories and fricking just reminds you of how much this movie means to not only MCU
fans but especially kids, people that grew up with the Fox movies.
This was a perfect send off to those movies.
X-Men, Fantastic Four and as we haven't brought it up enough, the end credits scene where
it's just showing behind the scenes while playing good riddance of these X-Men and Fantastic
Four movies that came before is just fantastic.
Everything that we get with Deadpool and Wolverine is great.
Especially Wolverine like oh my God, Hugh Jackman was amazing having him back and like
probably my favorite performance he's ever given.
So while I was scared for this movie of what it was going to be, it blew my expectations
out of the water and I just had an absolute fucking blast from start to finish.
So 96 for me.
Hell yeah.
All right, going through the scores, starting off with story.
We are kicking things off with a 94.33.
Acting is got a significant bump sitting at a 98.
Acting down one point at a 97.
The character development was the weakest score of this movie sitting at a 93.33.
The effects are sitting at a 95.33.
Music is a 10 out of 10.
Costumes is sitting at a 10 out of 10.
And then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 98.
And I think it is without any surprise whatsoever that the final score for Deadpool and Wolverine
has come out to an A.
Hell yeah.
Like it was no question, dude.
No freaking question.
Like, oh my gosh.
I cannot wait to hear this ranking.
Yeah, this is going to be either exactly it.
Oh no, it's above end game and or Infinity War.
See it in your face.
No, it is what it's below.
Oh no, that's getting me.
All right, we'll go with below first.
That's too man.
All right, it is sitting.
So it is our new number three.
It is our new number three.
Like of Marvel movies or movies?
All movies.
We'll go with above first then because I feel like the below is going to kill somebody.
Okay, so this is sitting above Barbie.
It is above Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse.
Okay, yeah, above it.
Really?
Yep.
Man.
All right, I'll accept that.
It is above Bohemian Rap City as well as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem and Avengers
End Game.
Holy shit.
God damn.
The opposite direction, it is sitting below Guardians of the Galaxy volume three.
I agree with that.
Yeah, I agree with that too.
And it is below Spider-Man No Way Home.
I can accept that.
Yeah, I can too.
Dude, it is so ridiculously close though.
So Deadpool and Wolverine is sitting at a 96.99%.
Holy shit.
The difference between, let me just pull up my calculator because I can't do math that
quick.
The difference between Deadpool and Wolverine and Spider-Man No Way Home is 0.38%.
It's not even a half point.
Oh man.
Yeah, and that's just, that's the difference between Spider-Man No Way Home and Deadpool
and Wolverine.
The difference between Guardians volume three and Deadpool is, let me get an exact math
on that because that's freaking tight.
Oh shit.
0.19.
It is so ridiculously close, dude.
I love that top three though.
Like the best multiverse movies are in there and also like the epitome of a perfect send
off to a trilogy, isn't there?
Absolutely.
Like this movie freaking blows you out of the water, dude.
So freaking good.
Oh man.
That's nuts.
That is nuts.
Man, you are, I predict you will have a few people online that are like, no.
Oh yeah.
When this ranking comes out, like people are going to go nuts.
What the hell is wrong with you guys?
Better than what?
Better than end game?
I don't think so.
Oh shit.
Damn.
But yeah, it's been a hot minute since we've had anything come into our top five.
Dude, that is insane.
I mean this movie, how could it not be?
Like it's, again, so good.
Like it's impossibly good.
Like it shouldn't have been, again, it was Deadpool three.
Like it shouldn't have been this good because it was, again, it was crazy because at the
heart of it, it was still just another Deadpool movie.
And I'm saying that like, oh, just another Deadpool movie.
But it really was like, it was, it was very in line with what the first two Deadpool movies
were in sense of, in the sense of like, he's just, he's got one singular focus and that's
what the movie's about.
Like got to save my friends.
Got to, even if I do it with this, this here Wolverine.
Oh, how do we not talk about this at all?
When will the Thor crying over Deadpool scene come into the end for you?
Seriously, Kevin Feige, you got some explaining to do.
That's what I was hoping they were going to address in the end credits scene.
Yeah.
Missed opportunity there.
But again, maybe that's like some kind of allusion to secret wars or some other, you
know, one of the other things that's going to happen in the future.
Maybe was that actually Chris Hemsworth though?
I don't think so.
That looked like someone else.
It didn't, it did not look like him.
It looked like one.
You know what?
I'm sure it's on the, I'm sure it's on the IMDB.
I, okay.
I got, I can't wait to see this again.
Cause I, it looks like Hemsworth to me, but maybe I've seen, I've seen a couple of, I've
seen it on, why can't I say it?
TikTok.
And like when it, when it, when you slow it down and look at it, you can tell it's not
him.
Okay.
But it's like, it look, it might, what it was that I heard someone say it was, who was
doing the acting of Thor, like in Asgard?
Like, wasn't it one of the, one of the other Hemsworth's that was doing it?
Yeah.
That's what I thought too.
But I'm looking at what some people are saying.
It's, it's archive, it's like edited archive footage from dark world.
Really?
Okay.
But even his face, like how his face looked, like there, I don't, there, I don't remember
any, I don't remember any, like the, how his, that scar was over his eye.
Like, I don't remember that.
And of course it's not in, it's not in the IMDB credits.
This is good where we all look at our phones and computers.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Oh shit.
Wait, I'll just ask Google who played Thor.
Oh, that, okay.
Yeah.
That's, that's Chris.
It really is?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I am seeing that too.
Mr. Paradox.
I don't remember the scar being that distinct on his face, but that is, that is great.
It was pretty crazy.
I was like, all right, well, yeah, I, I hope that comes to fruition.
Like just later on, like I hope it comes to fruition.
Like so far down the line that we've forgotten that that was a thing.
And like, right as it's happening, he's like, Oh my God, it's true.
You are sad I'm dying.
No, I was sad about the rabbit.
That was a rocket raccoon reference.
That was really good.
Yeah, I picked it up.
No one laughed.
So I had to make sure.
Sorry, man.
I was, I was too focused on looking at the article.
My bad.
So it's looking at your phone, just looking at your computer.
I get it.
I was going to say it's actually my computer, but nevermind.
I covered that.
Well anyway, unless you guys got anything else you want to say about Deadpool Wolverine,
any other Easter eggs?
Loved it.
There's going to be a million that come out.
That fair.
Old man Logan loved seeing them.
Wish they had the spider car, uh, the from old man Logan in there.
That would have been cool.
That would have, you know what threw me off in you?
I get, you know, costumes change, but the fact that the four was in the middle of the
costume and not on the left pack.
Yes.
That was just meant to like imitate a Krasinski suit a little bit.
Okay.
But it's also meant to show that it's a variant of the human torch that we know.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
Or that we will know.
Yeah.
Um, but okay.
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Uh, DJ, do you want to let people know where they can find you?
Uh, you can find me on the internet at, uh, untrained iPod.
Is that where we're at?
U I E P O D we're out there on all the socials.
Uh, I post some stories every now and again.
Rumor has it there may be a podcast or two in the future, but there is like years of
podcasts to listen to.
If you want to go check out the untrained, I can hear me and my lovely wife, uh, Bethany
talk about some bullshit, uh, whatever it is we talk about, uh, and, uh, yeah, there's
another more embarrassing podcast I do called dragging the table that I've also neglected
for like the past year.
Uh, you can check that out.
I complain about things and I also interview people from time to time.
So there you go.
It's dragging the table, the untrained, I be there.
Yeah, we are single-handedly keeping DJ's podcast career.
Listen, I love podcasting so much.
Like I miss it all the time.
It's just like, I don't know.
Like it's funny that I can like squeeze the time in during the week for this, uh, which
I'll always do.
Um, but man, something about like getting to the weekend and being like, ah, time to
rest now.
Like you just get on the couch and you start melting into it.
And you think about like, do I want to get up and talk for an hour and a half or an hour
and then edit and then put it out and then tell everybody, Hey, look at my thing and
hashtags.
Uh, you know, I'm on a podcast now that's been doing it weekly for longer than we did.
So I don't know who I'm complaining to right now, but, uh, I don't know.
It's hard sometimes you say you're neglectful to years.
Have you seen how neglectful I've been to the Gacy Gazette?
I mean, I just recently followed the Gacy Gazette on Instagram.
Okay.
I even liked the, I, I appreciate that.
Yeah.
Frickin Caleb knocked it out of the park with the fricking reboot artwork.
It's amazing.
Are we getting any Gacy Gazettes anytime soon?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Um, really?
Yeah.
No, I, yeah.
There's one that actually comes out Thursday.
Dude.
So Gacy Gazette is like, we forgot to mention this Gacy Gazette is now on its own feed.
You should link to that.
Cause I did not know this.
Yeah.
We'll link to that in the description as well.
As well as all of DJ's stuff.
Yes.
As this episode comes out, is it, is that episode of Gacy Gazette coming out the following
Thursday or will this be last Thursday?
No.
So this is day we're recording.
This is coming out July 1st or August 1st.
So last Thursday as you're listening to this.
Yes.
Yeah.
I, I, we posted all the, the backlogged episodes.
So all the, all the Gacy Gazette episodes that you can find on our feed are also on
the new feed.
I went back and listened to them and I had a hard time getting through some of them.
Maybe it's just listening to my own voice.
I'm like so all over the place I feel.
So like, I'm glad that I actually have a direction for where I want to take the reboot.
Well, that's good.
I'll be sure to give you the, the, the downloads cause I'm gonna get caught up again.
Appreciate that.
But I like, if you and Beth ever do decide to come back, like if, if you guys love listening
to us, you're going to love listening to the untrained dialogue seriously.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Appreciate it fellas.
Of course.
Um, well, uh, I'd say that, uh, concludes this episode.
So, uh, next week, Caleb, I forgot, what are we doing next week?
Uh, I don't know.
I think it's an open week.
Okay.
So it's going to be a mystery for everyone around.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I don't know what movie we're going to do.
Cause it very, it might be Harold in the purple crayon.
Oh yeah.
You said you were going to let me know what you thought.
Yeah.
I've taken Iris to that next week.
Uh, and yeah.
The next or the following week, we're actually going to have someone that reached out to
us about being on the show.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
We're going to talk about aliens.
Romulus or, uh, aliens.
No, the aliens.
The second.
Is it someone who's been on Reese ever, or is it someone new, brand new?
Someone brand new.
It's actually an author.
Ooh.
Are you going to say now or can we keep a secret until after we stop recording?
So everyone wonders.
Let's keep the mystery.
Ooh.
I'm actually really excited.
Cause I, the, the new one actually looks super good.
So I want to actually watch some of these movies before I check that out.
Yeah.
Same here.
Before I forget too, I meant to say it earlier, but you played failing Hollywood instead of
the angry dad podcast.
Happy birthday, Ben.
Hey, happy birthday.
Ben.
Hell yeah.
It's belated now, but.
Yeah.
Um, they have, so like, like Caleb said that next week is up in the air.
So your guess is just as good as ours.
I should watch Alien Romulus.
Did that movie come out yet?
No.
So that one comes out on the 16th.
That's yeah, that's what it is.
So do alien, uh, next week.
And then have your boy on the week after.
That's not a bad idea.
That is not a bad idea.
All right.
Ben, we'll do it.
We'll do alien.
Then there we go.
If Harold, if Harold and the purple crayon sucks, we'll, we'll do it.
It sounds like it might with the name like Harold and the purple crayon.
It doesn't sound very good.
You're telling me to grow up with the shit, you know, watch the real.
Oh yeah.
It's a series of books and a animated show or like animated specials.
Huh?
I have never heard of it until I went to go with the marine and was like, wow.
I mean, what's different about the original, it's, you know, like him as a child, just
drawing with his purple crayon and this one, he's a grown adult entering the real world.
Mostly what a lot of these movies do like, Oh, Hey, let's bring like an old classic IP
and transition them into the real world.
And they're so lost and they don't know what's going on.
It's been done to death, but I'm like kind of a little optimistic with Harold and the
purple crayon.
If I'm being honest, listen, it needs a more, a more catchy name, like captain underpants,
you know, like, uh, we took my nephews to go and see that way back in the day.
I thought that movie was going to be nothing nonsense.
And then I came out with, uh, what was the guy's name?
It was like Dr. Poopy Von Diary esteen or whatever.
So if it can be at least poopy Von Diary esteen good, then, uh, that purple crown movie might
make it after all.
All right.
Fair enough.
Uh, all right.
Well, this has been the all bros podcast guys.
I am Jonathan.
I'm Caleb and I'm a baby.
And we will see you guys next week.
Deuces.
See ya.
Oh, you asshole.
I'm sorry.
Hey, real quick.
You know what?
Uh, lady Gaga named her, her baby.
Goo goo Gaga.
You're welcome.