What is up bros? I'm Caleb. And I'm Jonathan. And we are a couple of bros on a mission to
give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros. This week on the podcast we are joined by none other than the
plunge podcast. Both of them this time. I could make it this time. Plunge together strong.
Mr. And Mrs. Plunge some call. Yeah. Hell yeah. But we are here to talk about if you
guys haven't figured it out by now to talk about the newest plan of the apes movie kingdom
of the planet of the apes. And I could not be more excited for this episode because I
saw this movie yesterday and I wish I could have sat through another viewing of it. It
was that freaking good. It was. Yes. Yeah. So we're talking a little bit before. I watched
all of them really close together. What I didn't tell you guys is at work. I cannot
stop walking like a chimpanzee. I don't know why you said at work. You just can't stop
walking like a chimpanzee. At work. I've been doing it a lot. He's perfected it. Oh my gosh.
Dude there's something about those movies that freaking makes you want to ape out because
I I finished watching or after I got done with war I went inside because I'm out in
my shop or so my house is separate because I can yell and everything out here went inside
and like the next day my my daughter wanted to play a game so I was just like won't play
apes. And then I got a little too into it and she's like whoa dad I don't like that.
Yeah. Like you know how you have a monkey. You're like monkeys are not apes. OK. Makes
your shit or get out of my office. You know how crazy you have to go to get a toddler
to be like this is too much. As I daddy I think we're done with this game. And I'm like
what. And that's when you look at it you go. Oh no. Oh no. Oh man. Oh my god. Oh daughter
not a. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like I don't blame you for walking around work like that. Did
you ape out. I totally would. Or I did. Then I was judged harshly for it. I thought one
of my technicians had to do it so me and him were just we're aping out at work. Can you
can't go full ape. I was going full. But I was I were a doctor. Your doctor. You walk
in and you just. You know what the crit not a single customer has seen me about. It's
only ever when there's nothing going on and I'm just walking around just going. I'm glad
to hear that because that as a as someone that she's that harshly judges my pharmacist.
Yeah. I couldn't imagine seeing my pharmacist ape out and feeling comfortable taking the
drugs that he just gave me. Oh my god. He's not even started yet. Oh OK. That's pretty
good. Didn't even have to go to Ape School or nothing. He didn't have to go to Ape School.
He's just he's built like this. You might be in the next there's five more movies coming.
You might be in one of them at least. It's true. They say it was five. Yeah they're doing
they want to do nine. Dude this rendition. I'm about to be the next Nova. No. No. No.
OK. Male Nova. Novo. They can throw a wig on Lenovo. French. All right. Well before
we get into that we got a few movies that we're going to talk about in weekly watch
and that's it and then we'll get into our breakdown. So without further ado let's say
we get on into this. Do you like movies. I do. Do you like the crew that works on movies.
Kind of. And wait you like to know what's going on behind the scenes. Oh that sounds
neat. Oh you should listen to the failing Hollywood podcast. Wait what's it called.
Oh failing Hollywood. It's with real crew. How much is that a month. Oh it's free. What.
Free on all streaming networks. Holy shit. I know with real prop guys. No way. Uh huh.
Jeepers. Those guys sound fucking annoying. I think related to one of them. And not a
man. Damn. I just realized that there's a couple that I still haven't heard because
he sent me like a group of them. He's like all right here's four that include you and
then here's just four random ones. So I don't think I've heard eight of them yet. Every
week is an adventure for everybody. Yep. The only ones that I know like I only have three
different promos that I play. One of them is for Big Ben. Of course. And then others
from like another podcast buddy. I don't even know if he does his show anymore but I still
play the promo. And I got a failing Hollywood. The reason Simmons and more. They their promos
don't get played is they would send me just a 38 minute clip and go there's like nine
promos in here. I go I'm not cutting those up. They go you can play it. You imagine playing
a promo but it's 38 minutes long. Oh God. Yeah. What I ended up doing with luckily Mikey
cropped all his. Yeah. Like appropriately. So I was just able to like click and drag
but I created one video and then just kind of like stretched them out like if one was
longer than the other. And so yeah the video is the same but the audio is all different.
I was able to just go. Happy anniversary. Oh Mikey. Eight years. Happy anniversary. Yeah.
I saw that on Facebook today too. It took me a second. I was like oh shit is there any.
It's ours. We are. I think we're six like this week. Hell yeah. That's wild. Yeah. That's
awesome. Nice job guys. I think we're I think we started early June 2018. I think we're
coming up on our sixth birthday. Which also means the hood diner and DJ and Beth are also
six. We all started the same week. So you started in June of 2018. Yes. Yeah we started
a few months or like we were November of 2017. A lot of fucking episodes. Yeah almost 300
350. What. With all the bonuses and show. I lied. We're the end of June. We have 22
days to go. We're almost six. Geez. It's freaking nuts dude. Like this is this feels like this
whole show feels like my like my first baby. But yeah the time freaking flies when you're
having a good time. It's true. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Getting into this week's
weekly watch. We I didn't watch anything movie related this week. I. OK. So I've been trying
to watch all of the original animated X-Men show. So I've just been binging that just
so I could watch the X-Men 97 because I want the context of the show. That's fair. So yeah
I've been binging that I am finally on the last season. So I'm only like six or seven
episodes away from from finishing that. And then after that I have like a whole list of
movies that I'm wanting to watch on my that I've been getting from tick tock Instagram
like everywhere. Hunter did this cool thing last week where he went on vacation and just
stayed at my house. So we've just watched all of the same movies the past two weeks.
It's been nice. Hell yeah. The only one that I haven't watched with Riley I have seen in
the past for like our group chat that we do like movie club Riley got to watch my favorite
movie of all time Bloodsport Jean Claude Van Damme. Oh yeah. Have either of you ever seen
that because. No. No. It is iconic. It's not great. It's not good. Even but so much fun.
So much fun to watch. I can I can agree with that. It is fun. You get to watch it on. Sorry.
Let me tell you it's on Pluto TV and it's on Tubi. Now if you go walk you're free on
to it's in Spanish. So it's not. Translates to in Spanish. I clicked that one first so
I went hmm better try the other Pluto T or whatever the other to be I think if you go
on to be Bloodsport OK. English got it. You're going to learn about the kumat. You are going
to learn about the. Yeah I have a hard time with those like older like the Jean Claude
Van Damme Stephen Seagal like those types of movies like. Is he. He is hot as hell.
He's a hunk. He's a hunk. You know if I know what he looks like. Hunk. He was he was hot
as hell. You see a little bit of his cheeked up ass. You're like. I can never remember
the other really big movie. I want to say it's like Cobra Commander or something like
that sounds right. He's just shirtless oiled up doing splits the whole movie. There's probably
like eight cumulative minutes of him oiled up doing splits. Did you. You're going to
hate me but I don't find him attractive. I'm sorry. You got a little hot oiled up split
body. Yeah I'd say now like him today. Absolutely not. I mean what are we doing like. We're
comparing expendables to Jean Claude Van Damme. Are we talking blood for oiled up. J.V.
I mean he's not bad. He. Like really looking at him he's kind of got like. Discount Christopher
Reeves vibes about him. He kind of is like he's not a good actor. He just was. He's a
terrible actor. Unbelievably shredding. He's also good at karate. So. Did you know that
he's in Minions the rise of group. I did. Is he really. Yeah I just learned that. Yeah.
I think he's in like. I just know he's in expendables too. If you guys want sideshow
collectibles has a Jean Claude Van Damme showed a con tribute statue for nine hundred and
sixty dollars. There you go. Oh he is ripped to the nines in that in that. Yeah. Here's
a. I want to show that. That's pretty good. It's out of my. Better view. Oh. Oh that's
in his final fight sequence clothing too. That's pretty sick. Cuma take. Cuma take.
It does have my favorite line of all time where it's when he gets to the blood sport.
Just old Asian guy who just goes OK USA. And my dad says he said that to me all growing
up and it's just. I call it. Just stuck with you. Yeah. I feel like. At least with our
generation dad's always had like some genre that they were super into. And it's either
the idea action or frickin like westerns. It's Beverly Hills cop or it's Monty Python.
I had Kung Fu. I had a Kung Fu. You had a Kung Fu family. Yeah. I had a John Wayne family.
I had a John Wayne family too. That makes sense for you Utes. Yeah. My dad. This was
even before moving to Utah. He was still going to California. I don't know. Dude my. John
Wayne at the first Thanksgiving pilgrim. My dad his go to phrase whenever he would try
to get us to eat our veggies or just eat anything that was on our food or on our plate. He'd
be like hey Barry that that's John Wayne food. Oh geez. John Wayne noted. Yeah. John Wayne
food makes you like makes you strong. Now see if it was John Wayne Gacy food. I'm all
in. I'm kidding. No because that's probably. No. OK. OK. No he wasn't no domer. He didn't
mobilize anybody. Little boy ass. Get it right. It'd be more so fried chicken. That would
be the Gacy specialty. That was his final. Balloon animals. I don't know if he actually
was. But anything's possible. That guy was he had a dark side. He's eating balloons. I
believe it. All right. Get into these movies we watched. We're starting off our with Rose.
So since. So since they just so it's kind of weird. So they recently added Dumb and
Dumber to Netflix but then they also took off Dumb and Dumber. So I had to watch Dumb
and Dumber on Blu Ray. But so I did a like I went backwards. I watched Dumb and Dumber
to Netflix and I watched Dumb and Dumber on Blu Ray. But Dumb and Dumber next to Ghostbusters
is my favorite comedy of all time. I could probably quote this whole damn movie. Love
this frickin movie to death. Jim Carrey. Jeff Daniels are incredible together on every single
frickin rewatch. I feel I find new stuff to love about this comedy. I have like nothing
bad to say about this. Like I don't know about you guys. If you guys have anything bad like
Rose I'm going to give you an opportunity here. I've never seen Dumb and Dumber. Really?
It looks unbearable from the poster. It's not. Can you sell me on it? You want to hear
the most annoying sound in the world? I'm not doing that. How do I. OK. So imagine like
two. But I don't know how to sell someone on Dumb and Dumber. It's like the hangover
but it's only two guys and there's no blackout drinking night. That's just their day to day
life. Yeah, you know what? That's actually a really good way to put it. Someone put it
the way it's it's it's a movie based around two dumb people but the people that wrote
it are actually very smart when it comes to the comedy. I'm in. It is. So you've sold
me. Yeah, it's it's really good. It does look unbearable. There's only two so it's not on
the wheel. But yeah, what sells me on this movie personally is that like and this is
something I didn't know before. But I know now Jeff Daniels. Doug had done no comedy
movies prior to that. Yeah. So Jim Carrey just kind of like ran with it and he just
kind of pulled in like he just kind of acted off of Jim Carrey. So this is like primetime
Jim Carrey. Like I'd put this like in terms of comedic. This is on this. I put that on
the same pedestal as maybe like the mask or Ace Ventura. I was just about to ask if it
was like where that ranks compared to Ventura. Like that's that's where I put it. I don't
I don't have like an actual ranking or whatever. But in terms of like peak Jim Carrey that
it's on that same bar. Excuse me. I find it really funny. There's definitely shit in here
that is dumb. But it's like it's funny. If you like frickin eight crazy nights you'll
like Dumb and Dumber. Yes. There we go. All right. I'm double in. Now I've got a reverse.
If you like dumb and dumb do you like a crazy. I don't think it goes.
I don't think it goes. Fucking TV open. Idiot. Piggy backing off what Caleb said about Jeff
Daniels. You know this being his first comedy movie I saw an interview with him to where
he said that you know Jim Carrey just effortlessly just falls into these roles. It's super easy
for him. Jeff Daniels with before every single scene he literally has to like shake his head
and become stupid. That's before every single frickin take that's what Jeff Daniels has
to do. And I find that frickin hilarious. So he can match Jim Carrey. He has to frickin
shake the dumb into him. You got to kill as many. It's got to become possible.
Jeff Daniels equivalent of spinning around in a circle too many times but without the
consequences. Yeah. No seriously. I don't really have anything else to say about this.
Like this is probably like I don't even know what how many times I've watched this damn
movie. So I personally give it a five dollar Tuesday. I was close to a full price but gets
a five dollar because I really hope that like frickin fathom does an event or something
with this movie because I would love to see this movie on the big screen. That'd be a
frickin dream come true. And then next next up the sequel that no one asked for. But you
know you could say the same thing about the prequel. And what's really sad is yes so there
is three dumb and dumber movies. So there's the original. There's dumb and dumb. Yep.
Yeah. When Harry met Lloyd and then there's dumb and dumber too. Oh shit. That goes on
your wheel now huh. It sure does. You and dumb and dumber. What is this car vehicle.
This dog car. It's a throwback. First it is a shagging wagon. So this is the new one.
This is like the 2017 one or something. I think it came out in 2014. OK. All right.
So so yeah. Like I mean you know since you haven't seen the first one the story is that
Harry Jeff Daniels character spent his life savings to turn his car into a dog just because
he was a he had he started his own business called Mutt Cuts that specialized in a whole
lot of the first movie. No no that's just a that's how that's how we're first introduced
to Jeff Daniels character. OK. I like it. So Mutt Cuts runs out of the shagging wagon.
That's fantastic. Oh shit. But yeah just you know there is a line in this movie that Jim
Carey's character Lloyd says timing or comedy is all about timing and the timing was not
right with this one because this movie didn't need to exist. Literally the only reason to
watch dumb and dumb or two and I feel this with every single rewatch because I've seen
this movie about five times now is the only the only reason to rewatch this movie or not
even rewatch just watch it in general is to see Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels back together
again. That is the only positive that I can say about this movie because everything else
to me sucks. The story sucks. The added characters are not great. Like I appreciate that they
try to tie in other characters from their like frickin high school. I was about to say
high school hood. That's not a word. When they were like teens. But I feel for the most
part it just you just don't give a shit. And if anything I feel they're more dumb in this
movie than they were in dumb and dumber. And I didn't think that was possible. They're
dumber and dumb and dumber. Never would have thought. I do like that they spelled it T.O.
It's the perfect amount of dumb. Right. I did. I did appreciate that too. But yeah like
he said the only reason to watch this movie is just to see these two guys back together
again. So and like honestly I don't know if I would put this one above the prequel. They
might just same level like both are bad but I can't decide which one's worse. So yeah
dumb and dumber is definitely one that should have only been one movie. It's a perfect one
off comedy. Those don't exist unfortunately. Yeah that's true. No. Night at the Roxbury.
Unless you're Adam Sandler. Oh that's a good point. Unless you're Adam Sandler. And again
he's making Happy Gilmore too right now. Well is he really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it
gets a lot of hate but I would say actually Grown Ups to me is like a perfect one off
comedy. Didn't need a sequel. Grown Ups to is the perfect movie. I'm going to let you
bro. Give me the plot of Grown Ups to right now. Have you. Wait. OK. Like have you actually
seen grow up. I'm testing. Oh shit man. Yeah. I don't know if anyone could do that.
Dude. Basically all of Adam Sandler's friends from the first one minus Rob Schneider move
back to their hometown. Chaos ensues. They decide to throw a 80s party at Adam Sandler's
house that. Yeah. And then David Henry from Wizards of Waverly Place and his lacrosse
team invade. Yeah that's true. And they beat up. Don't forget Taylor Lautner. Yeah he didn't.
He does a back flip. It was really cool. Yeah he does. It's not even like off the quarry.
He just did a standing back flip. That's pretty sick. Yeah. Nice. You passed. Yes. Yeah. I've
seen that movie with you no less than three times and I couldn't even do that. And Chad
stopped the tire. Come on. That's the only scene that I remember from that. Oh what about
what. What's his name Bimpy or something. I don't know. He's he's the little bald kid
with the big chain. Oh shit. His name. I'm gonna. Damn. I'll find it. Yeah. Because his dad's the
one that goes. What. Yes. His dad is the coach of Carlos in the bench warmers. Tim Meadows. It's
Tim Meadows. Yeah. Yeah. Oh shit. All right. Question for you two. Did you miss Rob Snyder
in grownups too or did you feel was fine without him. I didn't remember that he wasn't in it so
I'm gonna say. Riley's really looking deep for Bimpy. There's no way he's down this far. I
got Bumpty. Yeah. Bumpty. Camel McFadden. Yep. Andy Samberg. Male cheerleader. Oh my God. Yeah.
I remember that. I really want a movie to use Michael Cera, Jesse Eisenhower and Andy Samberg.
Jimmy Tatro. Yes please. Rapidly age and like that does not even be like an acknowledged joke.
Will Forte. Will Forte played male cheerleader uncredited. Oh God.
Dude are you about to give me a reason to rewatch grownups too just to. I think I already did. Go
see Will Forte's scene. Oh shit. I gotta say that like that idea for Michael Cera, Jesse Eisenberg
and Andy Samberg would be hilarious for like a three brothers comedy. I think about like
similar. That would be amazing. Far too frequently. More frequently than I can admit.
I think someone pointed out they're like a real life Pokemon evolution.
All right that's just too perfect. Andy Samberg being the final evolution.
Oh yeah. There's a good movie. Beelo. Letting Crashers. Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. You're kidding.
But yeah so after shitting on it I'm gonna give it a nothing better to do. The only reason it's
getting that is because of Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels because their chemistry is still there.
Says everything else behind. Everything else around them sucks. I don't know. I'm in on the
shagging wagon for much. I'm not gonna spoil it but like I hate that it's on the poster and then
what they do with it is freaking bullshit in the movie in dumb dumb or two. It's great in the first
one but I felt so let down because like the scene. What do you mean? It has nostrils.
Yes. No like the way that it's brought back I'm like hell yeah it's gonna be awesome and then
freaking the scene plays out. I'm like son of a bitch. All right. Dumb. Yeah but like I said I've
been lame. All I've watched is the X-Man animated show. Is that the one where like all the jokes of
the I'm the juggernaut bitch come from? No that's from the X-Man I want to say it's last stand.
Okay. That's like the live action Hugh Jackman version. Gotcha. Speaking of.
Speak oh speaking of Hugh Jackman I was like oh shit. Holy shit that popcorn bucket dude.
Oh wait is it released the Deadpool 3 popcorn buckets? Have you not seen it? Sell out so fast.
Alaccio from those buckets. Oh I can't wait to see Riley react to this. They knew what they were
doing with that. What the fuck? Why? Where do you eat it out of? Is that the top?
We all know that's not for eating. Someone put butter on the nose.
Hold the butter extra pot or no hold the popcorn extra butter.
That's what everyone's gonna say. Yeah much like oops all berries is gonna be oops all butter.
That's hilarious. Yeah that's a good one. I am very much gonna try and get my hands on one of these
just to own one. Yeah likely story. Yeah I keep my dune too popcorn bucket in my kitchen.
He like scoots the very edge of it off camera.
Oh my god. Wait do you actually have one? No I don't. I don't have a dune OC. I tried. I tried to get a dune OC.
Okay I'm sorry I'm curious how much for how much for how fast those sold out.
Like how much are those going for? Like how much are scalpers freaking selling?
You're default browsing. What? Default browsing private browser. Yeah it's about like 80 bucks.
80 bucks? Can you just call ANC and be like I want one and they'll call you when they're in stock.
No they'll actually come to your house and beat you up. Then they'll fill you off with a Wolverine bucket.
That's crazy. It looks like an ornament. Yeah they'll just
pop up for me too. Yeah call and ask for one they'll just have a quick hotline to the local police station.
Yeah exactly. Put you on a list.
It's because here you have one account of harassment. What happened? I tried to order the Deadpool 3 popcorn bucket.
Popcorn the Wolverine popcorn bussy.
Oh shit. Yeah I feel like I live in a really good area because the two AMCs that are close to me like
they're both about half an hour away but they are both on the verge of shutting down and I feel like
I'm single-handedly keeping them in business.
It's incredible. I feel like the Batman for movie theaters you're really just saving them.
Named us all bros. You're our only hope.
Me and my daughter went to go see IF a couple weeks ago and we were literally like when I pulled up
the parking lot I'm like oh shit are they like are they closed?
Yeah I have. I saw some people working inside and I was like oh okay.
We have an Apple Cinema.
That's like 15 minutes from me that's like that every time I pull up it's like I don't think this
is a functioning movie theater anymore.
You walk in and there's four people not working.
Yeah.
If kinda looks bad.
It was it was I.
Okay.
It wasn't anything like a movie theater.
It was like a movie theater.
It was I. It wasn't anything like worth like oh better rush to go see it.
You could probably wait till streaming.
But was it better than Garfield?
It was better than Garfield.
No. No, no, no. New Garfield. The theaters right now.
Chris Pratt. He's not doing a voice. He's just talking like Chris Pratt.
Yeah pretty much.
But surprisingly it works.
Does it though?
That's the only thing that works about that movie.
Everything else.
Does it though?
I you know what I tried to find positives in that movie and that's about the only one I got.
Oh just wait till we freaking break that one down.
I feel like voice acting characters but not doing their iconic voice.
Started with Mario.
Hey it's me Mario.
Shit.
But yeah.
Yeah so when my daughter and I walked into that AMC like the people working there looked surprised.
Like that's how bad it is.
Going up to a place of business.
Yeah they were like playing on their phone and then I came in and they looked up.
Looked down and then they're oh.
And then they like I got in line ordered my ticket and everything and.
Yeah I ordered so I ordered a medium popcorn and the dude was like looking around like he wasn't sure where the bag was.
And I was like dude like you knew here.
This is the first one you've had to do today.
The way he was acting it was the first one he had to do ever.
Did you get to hit him with the tried and true line from Spongebob the you just blowing from stupid town.
Blowing from stupid town.
Now I.
I wouldn't have the nerve.
But yeah so next up is one that Riley watch or I guess you know.
We've been wise watched.
Yeah I've watched multiple times this week.
I've also listen so let me say this I've listened to the soundtrack no less than.
30 beginning to end yeah probably 35 50 times 30 at least on.
I throw it on in the background at work for like two weeks now straight you know why.
This is the greatest show that's true.
From now on I'm going to listen to this.
I'm going to listen to this.
From now on is my favorite song from that soundtrack the album the soundtrack is only heaters.
There's not even a song that's close to a skip.
It's so true there's not even there isn't a single song that I've ever even considered hitting the skip button on it is a undisputed head out of.
1000 out of 100.
And I'll be honest I want I listen to it about 20 times not having really watched the movie I'd watched it once passively like a year ago.
And then for some reason just got addicted to the soundtrack and now it's my favorite movie.
The songs hit different now.
Brother hasn't seen Les Mets yet and he's gonna have a total 180 he's gonna be like this is the greatest movie ever.
No this is the greatest show now.
Yeah that's right 8-boy.
It's so good it's perfect I love it that's all I have to say about the greatest showman I love it.
I love it I do like it's become my new comfort movie it's become my new comfort music thank God I'm tired of seeing love is blind on your letterbox love it first sight you can suck a penis.
And it's still on my letterbox thank you very much they're both in my.
Yeah but I haven't seen it recently that's gonna change no.
You did it to yourself what did did are you watching love it first sight yeah we have it on the screen right next to yours.
What no shit I'm just kidding.
Give this did you give this like an award.
I don't know where you're digging at right now no no no I mean like the how they did like the nothing better to do $5 Tuesday I did give oh yeah it's just the greatest show.
It is full price ticket time seven you should go see it full price every day at the theater.
You just get a hairball you just fucking hairball I just heard him in the corner go.
I want to take this off now.
No.
Oh shit.
All right well I believe that is everything that we watched this week I watched Dr no as well last night just a quick footnote hey yeah what's the knee we watched last night the first Sean Connery bond.
That girl what's her name hold them writer writer yeah no honey honey writer.
She went and I quote I don't go to Scott college but I have all the encyclopedias and i'm up to T so i'm really smart she knew everything up to T.
And that was my takeaway from.
I'm not enjoying this.
You rose from captain purple.
I apologize if you're here.
alarming when a strange hair that's not one of my own enters my mouth.
fair.
that's fair.
That is super fair.
That's.
Being married and having a taller that's what my life is just inhaling hair.
Because they like to they don't like to freaking put their hair up or like tie it in any way shape or form but they love to come and lay down and it's just all over my face pauses it to any open orifice and then later on your life.
yeah and then what gets me is they have the nerve to freaking complain about my facial hair when I go and try to like love up on them.
You're like yo 30% of your hair is currently in the back of my throat.
I know like I could freaking knit a quilt with the shit that's in the shower right now yeah dude it's crazy.
My face is a little.
What that's a good question how do these women have hair they're like porcupines it's not the way based on what I find in the show.
I don't know how any women woman has hair dude no shit right it does not make sense the logistics simply don't add up.
yeah oh my gosh like when my wife washes her hair that like I had to get like a freaking special strainer for the.
Like the shower because it will clog my freaking drains up like every shower she takes you ever shower after her and then you're just like ankle deep in water and you have to go like spill on.
I have a weak stomach so you know I refuse to like if she says she's going to get in the shower I immediately just freaking.
Strip it down and jump in the shower.
No I can't because I like I got like that much space between the floor and the gap in my door that water will come out of.
And it like I I'm eventually going to just rebuild the whole bathroom and because right now it's just like a tiny little corner of our our space so if I put my arms out like two I can put my elbows out and freaking hit the walls.
So I'm going to build out like a bigger freaking shower and have like a special drain specifically for hair that I don't have to clean out.
Add in like a hair decontamination like hallway where it like blows air really hard and then all the loose go just get swept up.
I know I'm considering throwing in a freaking garbage disposal just to like freaking chop all that shit up.
That's a good idea.
Oh shit.
And then when it starts getting clogged you just flip a switch and then turn it off.
Yeah I I'm I'm excited to do that though.
I haven't worked.
Tiled strength of the hair so strong.
It's ridiculously strong. I've attempted to do that with like a bundle of the hair that's in the shower like yeah you can't.
Spider-Man and Spider-Man 3 just like.
Oh shit.
Yeah but I don't know if if you're if you guys have ever experienced this but my my wife likes to draw like little pictures with her hair that she puts on the wall drives me nuts.
But yeah she'll put like a little sweet thing so I can't really complain about it but this is open forum so I can.
I'm in my man.
She listens to.
Women am I right.
But yeah she'll like she'll put like little hearts and stuff and I'm like this it it's gross.
Like stop.
I want you to get death threats in those right now.
No it would be funny if in your current situation you got left hair death threats.
Gentlemen for context.
Me and my girlfriend broke up four months ago but we still live together.
Oh shit.
Riley saying is he wants me to break up with him.
I'm not sure where we go but we still live together oh shit.
Okay Riley saying is he wants me to receive death threats in the shower hair.
That's the craziest medium of communication.
I'm not sure what I'm hearing on her.
That'd be crazy.
Read the thing.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
All right well.
Today we get in or we finally get into this week's breakdown gentlemen.
All righty this week for our headliner we will be breaking down kingdom of the planet of the apes.
What a wonderful day.
And as you can tell we are very excited about it.
What a wonderful day.
Are we thankful the word of Caesar.
Oh my gosh.
No don't do it.
No.
No we're not sorry.
What a wonderful day.
I said that nonstop for the last two weeks.
It hasn't stopped.
You did it like literally yesterday.
Yeah since I saw the movie I can't stop doing it.
What a wonderful day.
Dude with your freaking.
Hit him with the rain.
You talked about planet of the apes and you guys kept yelling no and I'm like this would be a pretty fun drinking game.
If like every time they yelled no freaking take a shot.
I'm like by the end of the episode I was like no like that person would be dead.
No.
Through the table.
Tomorrow.
Oh shit.
This episode's equivalent is going to be how many times both me and Riley went.
I'm not good at that.
You're too good at that.
Dude I've been.
I would pay an exorbitant amount of money to go to ape school.
Hunter Fury.
Some old ladies.
Fuck out leaving the theater of candy with the apes.
Hey it wasn't just me it was.
You're all walking down the aisle as apes but he's the king of the ape walk.
He was just walking down doing his.
And there's.
I can't do the double.
When you're walking down the aisle and there's just an old white lady waiting for the rest of the family.
Adult male just walking like an ape going.
Oh my god.
It's like lady did we not just watch the same film.
Amp up right now.
What a wonderful day.
Like lady did that mean nothing to you.
Freaking jump over the chairs like toward her.
Walk up to her and been like we'll call this one.
Nova.
You'd have fun.
Those movies maybe want to learn how to say stuff in ASL so that I could walk up to someone.
One Nova.
Oh man.
All right.
Well if you guys are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros and the plunge letter grade.
The categories that we are going to be scoring our story writing acting character development effects music costumes which with this being a pretty CGI heavy movie is going to be more based off of the character design than actual like costumes.
And then our personal score at the very end.
Those numbers will get magically added up and spit through all spit through our algorithm and give us a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade and fingers crossed it doesn't end up near holes this time.
It will always.
We know one thing about the plunge boys is it.
It always comes back to holes.
Oh shit grandpa.
It was he was you guys favorite type of a mind of a noble.
A bonobo I've been trying to think of what kind of a coba is for like a bonobo.
Yeah.
Proxima Caesar, also a bonobo.
You know those just they stay in a business, they're small chimpanzees.
But the two I mentioned are not small, which is nice.
They're kind of a sucker for orangutans or what was Maurice.
Maurice and orangutan.
Okay.
Rose I can see you as a big good thing.
I don't think you even need.
No, I'm I'm I'm basic.
Whatever Caesar and Noah are in pansy pansy chimpanzee.
Yep.
Yeah.
No gorilla.
Riley's the gorilla man.
I'm not a gorilla man.
I'm no bo man.
I'm not a gorilla man.
You would be a gorilla to be a primate.
You would be a gorilla.
Are you calling me stupid?
No.
Sorry.
We can't all be King Gutang.
Okay.
Hey, I'm a wiry and small like a chimpanzee.
You're big and strong like winter.
Winter was a fucking coward and a trader.
Don't call me.
Yeah.
What the hell kind of disrespect is that.
Winter got killed like a bitch.
She gave me death threats with her hair.
You might have had that.
Sorry, Mr. Plunge.
You might have had that coming.
I'd argue calling me winter the cowardly gorilla.
No.
What a wonderful day.
No.
We are thankful.
Every time I think that I'm over these movies, I start talking.
Say his words.
Best teaching movie.
Did anyone just want to shout from the rooftops.
I did.
Damn, I should have.
We went with a group of like eight of us who were all just we were full aping out the whole time.
Ape together strong.
I don't know how my buddy Ryan would react to me doing that.
I can't imagine the people behind us were thrilled.
But listen, I went.
They could have just moved seats.
That was a fun experience.
There's maybe 12 of them were behind us.
I kick my.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I was going to say I kick myself for having to wait so long to see this because I didn't see this until last Thursday.
I hate that I missed out seeing it in either Cinemark XD or IMAX.
I'm thankful for the hunt man.
He gave me he gave me an advance on the wheel.
He allowed me to handpick the apes so I could catch up in time to watch Kingdom in theaters.
It was one of those where I was like, I can already tell this is this is an IMAX type movie.
I would like to see it in the I feel like that one kind of ended up being a wash though because I experienced it too.
So it's kind of like worth it.
Yeah.
Doesn't count against you and like the advancement.
Yeah.
I wish the movie theaters in my area were a little bit more active.
So I had to go to like a separate movie theater than the AMC is because I needed to be local because my family was going to go swimming after and I needed to be in the area.
So I went to a theater I didn't necessarily care for and I guess no one else does because it was freaking empty.
Nice though.
Yeah.
But like it's kind of like drunk assholes going oh I got a strong.
Yeah.
I want it like that.
But I was I was by myself and there was only like two other people in there and it was like a father and a daughter and I was just like I can't I can't ape out.
I mean I can't do that.
I know.
But what sucks is so that like the theater looked like it was going to be pretty packed like when I went and like when I bought the tickets and I got to choose my seat and everything like there were so many seats that were like ordered.
And so I was like OK well I guess I'll sit on this row.
And the theater showed up you know except for the two people on my row when the theater started not filling up.
What a wonderful day and I was going to say no.
I can't believe you can.
I mean you know like your your theater is not filling up. Mine was the same way but it's crazy how the box office of movies is doing right now for the summer season because this movie has made three.
How much is it. So its budget which I feel is good for a Planet of the Apes movie is 160. It's made three hundred and thirty nine million.
That's considered a that is actually considered a win. Like it's actually I think like it's performing above or it's performing above par like what war was tracking.
So like it looks like it's going to hopefully gross like five to six million. But it's just it's honestly sad looking at other movies are performing.
And then with like 31 yard freaking like 120 or something. Yeah.
He's already like out of theaters. It's bad. Now I'm sorry.
I meant to but I just didn't. I am part of the problem.
But like now do I tell you what. It's crazy to think that like the two monkey movies this year are the most profitable.
the
indominated yeah yeah Dev Patel doing Dev Patel things by Dev Patel produced by Dev Patel starring Dev Patel
made for by Dev Patel for Dev Patel all right well before we get into any spoilers with this I'm gonna put
that up right now warning because it is time for our favorite segment that we like to call reading
with Rose so if you have not seen kingdom of the planet of the apes we are about to spoil the entire
freaking movie for you and go see it you need yeah yeah go check it out it's worked yeah so without
further ado Rose would you like to take it away I would love to right many generations after Caesar's
death following the war with humans apes have established numerous clans while most humans have
become feral esque feral esque okay I gotta point this out really quickly this opening with
freaking Caesar's funeral that just like that fucking broke me oh my gosh I'm a mess me up
perfect way to transition from war the poor for the planet of the apes to kingdom like perfection
dude I freaked out cuz I was like oh shit is that Maurice yeah say that like realize what was
happening I was like oh no oh no it's more oh no oh no dude they are turning that a from that
are freaking amazing is so good I was literally like with you guys I was just telling Riley one
of our our buddy Brian sent like three really good beams of just that just bad ape just bad ape
standing on this take for two weeks that ape stayed dripped out a drip the fuck out higher
time that he was on he was in a puffy vest the entirety of his screen I do explain to my technicians
who bad ape was and they just didn't understand the cult alright so there's this ape right and
he was in a ski cabin he was bad but he wasn't he was so bad that it wasn't but it was his name and
he was dripped to the night that's about how it went they're like okay oh no meme and they're
like yeah that's bad a oh no he's getting some like super good like memes out I mean cuz he's
got the oh no one he's got the are the ones I've seen so like how's your mental health doing and
they just yeah and then the other one I've seen is just like where you say bad ape so I've been
I've been loving those he's bringing out his best Jeff Goldblum you should lean the other way so it
looks like you're leaning into him on the screen audio podcast by the way oh shit alright so Noah
a young chimpanzee from a falconry practicing clan prepares for a kind of age ceremony by
collecting eagle eggs with his friends Anya and oh no Anya I'm sorry and Naya and is it
Suna Suna it is soon soon okay okay however a human scavenger follows Noah home and inadvertently
cracks his egg during a scuffle before fleeing while searching for a replacement egg Noah
encounters a group of ape raiders using electric weapons as Noah hides from them the apes follow
his horse back to his clan Noah hurries home to find his village burning the Raiders leader
Silva kills Noah's father before dropping Noah from a high platform left for dead Noah awakens
discovering that his clan has been abducted he buries his father and sets out to rescue his
clan on his journey he is joined by Raka and orangutan who tells Noah about Caesar's teachings
the apes notice they are being followed by the human scavenger Raka offers her food and a blanket
naming her Nova when the trio encounter encounters a group of feral humans Silva's Raiders suddenly
attack Noah and Raka rescue Nova who to their surprise can speak she reveals that her name is
May and that the Raiders took Noah's clan to a beachfront settlement outside an old human vault
as they cross a bridge on their way to the settlement they are ambushed by Silva in the
ensuing fight Raka saves May from drowning but is swept away by the rapids no one may are captured
and taken to the ape settlement can I know reunites yeah of course I when they brought up the vault
this is also I watch planet planet of the kingdom of the planet of the apes very shortly after I
finished the fallout series on I don't even know what it's on but I was so I like it was like the
perfect fusion of I don't understand why like the vaults for post apocalyptic catastrophes have
seemingly made a resurgence but it did make me very happy they fall it was such a good show but
yeah I felt the same way I was just like oh shit vault dwellers yeah I was fully expecting people
to be in there and I was a little disappointed that there weren't and he comes out he's in like
cryo sleep in a fucking chamber yes in the bathtub like he just accidentally froze himself
how would you guys know if a freaking froze kobe yes I would I think I would have like actually
started going ape ape mode like walking up and down the aisle well but is my favorite kobe is a
freaking badass oh was a man a movie is only ever as good as its villain and in my heart yeah
cobas will cobas hero so sure oh my god dude I have some freaking this movie change my opinion
about freaking kobe Caesar was being a bitch right oh my god shit okay where it led these
humans right back here to this all right no over unites with his clan is introduced to the
ape self-proclaimed King Proxima Caesar I knew that was coming Proximus has enslaved other
clans forcing them to work on opening the vault so he can access the human technology locked
inside Proximus invites his new invites ha Proximus invites Noah to dinner along with May and trip
oh my god can I just say that instead okay and William H Macy a human prisoner who's teaching
Proximus about the old human world Proximus believes that Noah's intelligence could help open
the vault and warns him that may only has her own agenda Noah confronts me demanding the truth in
exchange for his help may discloses knowledge of a hidden entrance to the vault and says that
a mysterious book capable of restoring speech to humanity is inside no agrees to help her enter
the vault hoping to destroy Proximus's settlement and lead his clan back home Noah may Suna and
Anaya secretly plant explosives around the the levy I'm probably but Levy Levy god damn it that
surrounds the settlement true the William H Macy catches them and intends to warn Proximus
but may kills him the group enters the vault which is a military bunker housing a stockpile
of weapons and May's book which is actually a deciphering key for a satellite excuse me
these just Caesar's words are just so powerful the apes discover old picture books depicting
humans as the once dominant species and apes and cages at a zoo as the group makes their way out
of the bunker they are confronted by Proximus and his tribe lightning one of Proximus's apes
lightning one of Proximus's apes threatens to kill Suna but may kills him with a gun she found
Proximus tells me that she can leave if she tells him that where the other weapons are may refuses
and triggers the explosives flooding the bunker bunker with the apes inside may flee may flee oh
my god may fleas the settlement while the apes climbed a higher ground through the bunker Noah
is pursued by Silva but Noah traps and drowns him Noah escapes the bunker with his clan but
Proximus attacks him no leads his clan in summoning their eagles to attack Proximus and send him
falling off a cliff into the sea as Noah's clan returns to rebuild their home may arrives to bid
farewell to Noah concealing a gun behind her back but never revealing or using it she explains that
she destroyed the bunker and prevented the apes from accessing the weapons in the bunker because
those weapons were created by humans and should only be used by humans Noah then argues that if
weapons and technology are only for humans it suggests that nothing belongs to the apes
questioning whether apes and humans can coexist peacefully given May's fundamental disparity as
Noah takes Suna to look through a telescope he found on his journey may travels to a human
settlement at a at a satellite base which is kept quarantined from the outside world may delivers
the decipher key allowing the humans to reactivate the satellites and successfully contact other
humans worldwide oh man dude shit is about to go down real villain in this movie is that fucking
human bitch okay Proximus Caesar was just preaching the word of Coba the ape no this bitch dude so
this is what I mean by like it changed my opinions about Coba as well Coba I think like another thing
that makes a villain really good is when they're not necessarily wrong yeah it's it's conflicting
ideals one of which doesn't or neither of which have to be wrong it's just the idea of conflict
of different beliefs or the same belief with different paths to the same resolution yeah like
Coba's method or like Coba's idea like it just made me think like it wasn't necessarily like wrong
it's just Caesar didn't want to put any apes at risk and Coba's like it's got to happen gotta
spend money to make money baby yeah I don't care I'll murder my son hey you don't need to do that
watch this but it was like the same with Proximus like Proximus he wasn't wrong about May at all
it's just the method of which he's like taking these clans and bringing them all together
together yeah I mean definitely twisting Caesar's wrong words his teachings not Caesar's words Coba's
word Caesar says okay a pillow kill ape Coba says eight together strong that's wrong they are yeah
but it's just I think if if Proximus would have gone about it a different way rather than just
freaking raiding their their plan I think Noah could have easily been turned against May but
May freaking yeah freaking she sucked she sucked so bad I hated her she's so hot I was gonna say I
liked her because she betrayed everyone I was like yeah that's a human move right there I feel
that's what I made I think that's why I liked her just because human instinct like yeah why
aren't we rooting for the humans we should be like yeah it's because deep down we know that we
suck yeah it's true yeah like the subtle nods to the original series in this film were very cool
the question that I have for you guys if Rocka would have survived although I mean for what I've
here with the end credits that that's true because I've heard with the end credits like you hear his
him making sounds I guess so do you feel if Rocka was there that things would have gone differently
no Rocka would have been executed in front of the masses yeah I don't think Rocka he has books you
know what's scarier than like guns to Proximus Caesar probably books no Proximus Caesar liked
books yeah but he's a very smart ape but you also got to remember he's afraid of progress people
read him books every night no Proximus isn't afraid of progress he's afraid of humans getting
access to shit that they don't have no he's that they can't exclusively all about progress he's
about expediting progress yeah he's just like my greatest regret is that I'm not gonna be able
to live to see what we evolve into the fruits of our labor yeah but what a wonderful day my gosh
like it gives me goosebumps it really yeah I get my ringtone do you forget for the longest time my
ringtone was Koba saying apes together strong I love that that's my type of autism right there
I like that I like that autistic man likes is good but yeah I don't know Rocka have like
interaction with like with Proximus or no he never met yeah it was just they were manipulating
or he felt like they were manipulating Caesar's words yeah this is not what Caesar would have
wanted yeah oh my gosh dude when that frickin I would have sworn up and down like going in
that Noah and his clan were like following something of Caesar's and it's just like they
evolved into becoming like yeah these things are pretty cool yeah and then when Noah's goes out
to like find a new egg and then you see the frickin Raiders coming in and they're like chanting
like for Caesar I was like I flipped out I was like what I was not expecting Caesar to have such
a prominent prominence in this movie like I was hoping that like they you know like at least like
pay tribute to him which you know with the opening with that funeral they definitely did that but I
did not expect for his legacy to linger on this much which I freaking loved so have you seen the
originals no I'm not so Caesar is the lawgiver all law in the world goes back to Caesar now it's a
different season that they set up in that but it is still alluding to Caesar Caesar's the original
prophet he's like Jesus in okay in the 4000 monkey world monkey is monkey years different from
they're not actually uh-huh actually yeah we're like 21,000 monkey but yeah so Caesar is the
original like Jesus he creates law okay yes and I really got to watch some of the originals so
once you watch those you'll realize so much of the shit they pay so much homage to it okay I just
don't know if I can watch the suits man I've been spoiled by them I personally blame Tim Burton for
ruining my monkey fever no no no no a fever sorry crazy name Chimski is our hero okay we
gotta stop saying that he was in the movie because he wasn't yeah you know who named
Chimps leading a false narrative about him name Chimps key name Chim we have to start staying it's
name Chimps key I say correctly I don't never said it correctly Chim Chim Chim Chim Chim Chim Chim Chim
ski was a a chimpanzee from like the 1940s one of the first ones that was able to sign he learned
146 signs I think that's a dog request and then he died at like 18 named Chim ski canonically and
famously not an actor why'd we start bringing them up because I googled it incorrectly that's
fucking nim Chimps I was it was me I'm the progenitor for this misinformation but it's
kind of stuck and I'm big into nymphs every actor named Jim Chim ski in my head except Jack the
chimpanzee from MVP yeah that's Jack that should be on your watch list for this week do I do they
ever give like an actual like time span of how long it was between this and Caesar no it's 300
years they say specifically say that you say many generations yeah but like I thought I thought I saw
something the director West Ball said it was supposed to be about yeah hundred years yes okay
because I was just looked up the they have a lot of wiggle room with the timeline too because they
the original movies don't they don't go back till 39 like 76 I might be okay yeah the I just looked
up the lifespan of chimps and they say that the average life expectancy is about 33 years so I'm
like yeah yeah so like with us like our lifespans like we could typically break it up into like maybe
80 years I would say like that's a pretty decent that's accurate I am doctor that is accurate but
like chimps only being like 30 or so like that have to be all types of gender for 300 years that's
ten generation gap between these why do you think there's two different churches of Caesar say his words
don't even know about Koba yeah he's the one who knocks that's that's hyzen Chimpsky but oh my gosh do this yeah I think in another
world they would have turned against Nova I can't wait to see I'm fully expecting another human ape
war and just get it's gonna go from the planet of the apes to rise of the kingdom of the planet of
the apes and then kingdom of the rise of the kingdom of the original titles but add like kingdom
of the planet of the kingdom of the battle of the apes you just said hyzen Chimpsky it's wild to
think that like the humans in this are closer generationally to Caesar than the like these
chimps would be I didn't even think about that that is crazy yeah they're not like three maybe
four generation gap between theirs if like 300 that's easily that's what ten years yeah but aren't these
humans kind of like feral hogs they're probably I don't know they probably still know who Russell
Crowe is like if I know shit like who Marilyn Monroe I know who Marilyn Monroe is that's what
the years trying to make whatever point it is you go ahead yours I mean it's not that far past like
they're not making new media yeah okay good job hunt I'm looking something I like quick I like
audibly cheered at the the the hunting scene with the nets no because that is it that came straight
out of the first planet of the apes movie okay ASMR Riley in the movie 30 he was just like yes
yeah cuz every point of the apes movie starts with a hunt you see okay similar to what Caleb
just did to that bug starts with a hunt audio podcast by the way and okay so 300 years ago
for us is the 1700s so that's when it was like Benjamin Franklin Thomas Jefferson like so that's
we know that yeah yeah so that's like the the gap between us and Fricket and them so that's like
the equivalent of us right now and like Benji Franklin so we have like an extensive history
of Benji Frankie yeah so they don't write yeah but that's not about the apes at this point it's
about the humans they definitely know who Russell Crowe is so what would ten generations be then so
if if if Benji is 800 years ago yeah like three or four generations away from us Alexander the
great sick as hell dude yeah so that that's basically so Caesar is the equivalent of frickin
Julius Caesar and Alexander the great to these apes she's yeah we're pulling out some frickin
math right now well if you go to the original one Caesar's quite literally just Jesus because
they're 2,000 years apart oh my god it's 2,000 years wow I know you guys wild name together
strong yeah much fun also the ape scarecrows also perfect though much those are another things are
yeah I watched those only ones yeah say that ape scarecrows the ape scarecrows things yeah okay yeah
those are from movie one it's like the only thing that I know from the original yeah yeah dude I'm
gonna watch the original after that I think where 2001's plan of the apes frickin killed my my
ape fever this reignited it and I'm gonna I'm gonna rewatch the originals now well first one's
good what the fuck is the second one third one's okay I pitch whining is number three that's two
the high pitch noise from the second movie beneath the planet of the apes made me want
to commit crimes serious felonies you'll if you know I Y a Y K okay all right the story let's get it
kingdom of the planet of the apes I'd love acronyms cop the cop cop a dipper that's actually just had
Donnie from the wild Thornberry speak I'm just looking up see if there's any like famous people
from like the year 1000 just for yeah just for like just for shit's a way Ramsey's the third
the Sultan of C6 yeah well I'm trying to find like an accurate like separation I got like
between like what the cuz these humans are looking at Caesar like how we look at Benjamin
Franklin all right hey Marco Polo Marco Polo born 1254 that's 800 years ago okay Kublai Khan
Kublai Khan isn't that Genghis Khan's son it is yeah Edmund Crouchback how could I don't know
that is what about just his name is just roomie are you am I roomie born 1274 Robert the Bruce
King Henry the fourth King Henry the fourth is there Henry the third yes dude this is not like
these are one I was close subjects of Rome he was one of the Turks damn these are these are people
that like are so separated from what who'd you find cotton bar bolsa he was a German pirate he
was a pirate but yeah like it's it's interesting for like cuz the humans are fighting somewhat
like an idea from like how we would view the founding fathers and and shit like that where
the apes are living a belief like freaking Genghis Khan and Genghis Khan was 1100 so that would be
900 years ago is this not the equivalent of like them fighting over the East India trading come
trading company like fighting over cinnamon and salt but not like the same time period or is that
1400s like that's the most famous person born in the year 1000 is ballas lost the second Duke of
Bohemia on the fame meter he's a five out of one I don't know but yeah like how like that's all I
could like really think about with this film like it's it's that like the age difference between
these apes like if they're only living 30 years humans average or like whatever the average
lifespan is with these humans like they're the generational gap between them has to be insane and
so the way that we view like Alexander the great Genghis Khan all those people like that's what the
apes are dealing with so like you're not even a hundred percent sure that these people said what
they said like we just have these like records but so like I'm looking at this thing of the most
famous person each year it's not until 1550 I really acting actually recognize one of them
William Shakespeare and will in 1550 then you start getting into a little bit more like Isaac
Newton was 16 like 40 Bach good old yo-ha yeah Beethoven and Napoleon were in the 17s yeah like
Beethoven yeah I will say beak I think because it was so far removed from like the original new and
not the original but the new trilogy for me and I think this might be a personal I can't like
separate the art from the artists I guess for lack of a better term because I spent terrible seven and
a half eight hours with my liege Caesar this story because it's the start of a new trilogy
or however many movies it's gonna be felt a little weaker than the storytelling of the last ones but
I don't know if that was like overall general weaker storytelling or if you just love your liege
yeah that like if it's just obviously has set the groundwork but it's like I can't even fathom the
full picture yet so I'm not as in love with it yeah that's how I viewed this one too it's just it's
setting the groundwork and it's it's kind of like the issues that I felt the like another franchise
I love the MCU like it's they're having to start from scratch and people aren't liking that like
they're starting from I like like broken groundwork and they're like they're trying to build back up
like they're trying to build a new structure and people are like well but this structure was so
good and I think that's the same deal here it's just they start they started off strong though I
felt like this could be a really good jumping-off point like I don't think you need to have watched
agree first three to watch it yeah it's for sure yeah like I think they perfectly explain who
Caesar is in this just enough so you get an idea for who he is yeah okay there's some sort of Jesus
guy but it doesn't rehash entirely like the entire saga of Caesar yeah yeah like it hits you that
with that little bit of like nostalgia at the beginning like for someone like going in completely
blind you just be like okay obviously this ape is important oh yeah the homage throughout it pays
to all of its predecessors is very good yeah so I mean I felt like the structure was really well
done really well paced like this was a two and a half hour movie and I it flew by I agree I agree
yeah same here and I don't know about you guys I'm sitting at like a 90 for the story like there
was some issues here and there but not very many any issues I had came purely from like May's
character I and those are alleviated because say with for me hunt I don't know what wonder yeah
you know no what a wonderful day no it's not a quote May's issues are all alleviated because
she's hot thank you I didn't know if it was too easy I didn't quite give it a 90 I think because
it was a little bit lower octane after just watching war for the planet of the apes and
I forget what the second one is now don don because it didn't have as much like pretty
much like end-to-end action is the ones that I've literally seen seven hours prior your baby I gave
it an 86 okay it's hard to compare this one I felt till like dawn and war like I had to I had to
like shut those out of my brain for a little bit I'm like all right like if I'm gonna compare this
to anything though it'd have to be rise but even I thought rise had like there's more tension
because and I don't know if that's because there was more humans in it but I thought it did a better
job of like from the beginning showing that there was already going to be tension and then holding
it throughout to the breaking point I did absolutely agree with that yeah you know you're
not about apes together being strong I gave it a 92 I like Falcons I like
rock this season like poodles yeah yeah I'm gonna actually agree with mr. plunge on this I'm gonna
give it a 92 as well I feel that it the story does a great job setting this new trilogy that
I'm hoping that is still gonna happen even though you know it's only made 300 million but still
that's I mean compared to just 300 that's true but just I feel it does a great the story is doing a
great job setting the grip for not only these new characters but for those that came before you know
Caesar and everything I'm saying this building Noah's Ark that was good like I I remember
walking out of this thinking that I didn't think that this franchise could still stay at the same
heights that I felt leaving war for the plant of the apes but I felt the same way with this one as
I did with that one I know it's the beginning of a chapter but just the stories I feel the story is
there and I can't wait to see what they do with it so 92 from me yeah just I like the world building
they did a world building while also building up new characters like they set up the whole universe
while having no background yeah just a little bit of Caesar able to get sprinkling some seas
moving on over to writing like dude there were some freaking bangers from everyone I like yeah
really like the scene when they just saw zebras what are those dude I love the the scene where
they were having dinner with Proximus yeah and how oh that was so good oh like the dialogue
between like that Proximus was spitting out was fantastic and it what got me was like oh shit like
this dude's not wrong like yeah like he's it wasn't that he was wanting to like execute humans
and risk it just wanted to advance a kind I mean who doesn't yeah yeah you know fuck humans so yeah
I am absolutely not rooting for the human race in this film seriously yeah I got yeah I got a
little upset not upset I thought it was funny I thought they pulled a frickin like Caesar thing
when when May stood up to speak to Noah and she like I thought she was just saying no I was like
well you can't steal freakin Caesar's line and then when she could like actually talk I was like
exactly like rock I just dropped the stuff like you must have misheard I think all of Rocko's
lines were perfectly written as well 100% in space hippie abandoned home catching under glass he's
like the ground like I would love to create a settlement of humans what a delight that would
be wouldn't it they're like what excuse me also him just like throwing an apple at no at May he's
like he's hungry look at that pitiful little thing and then in the writing I'm taking into
count all the homage they paid to all of its predecessors everything the zebras is that no
it's not the zebras were just funny but like them the hunt with the net the net catching is
was unbelievable the humans looked like they did in 1968 the scarecrows the Caesars window
stuff throughout I just yeah I really liked all that do that necklace or like just Rocko's full
outfit like wearing like the preacher yeah shit with the necklace like is super cool I liked his
character a lot but for my overall score for writing and this would be for any of these movies
it's minus one singular point because no big gorilla or orangutan or any animal will be on a
horse and the horse is like yeah I'm cool with this I'm gonna make this horse look like a mini
pony can I counter to get some points back you can what a wonderful day that was written
are you thankful for Caesar's words all right so check this out this is a if this alleviates your
thoughts whatsoever wait maybe okay so horses are capable of carrying approximately 20% of
their weight so if a horse weighs a thousand pounds they could easily carry someone that
weighs 200 and obviously it depends on like the horse's build and musculature 600 pounds
it's less about I just someone's asked can a horse carry a 500 pound person and it says there's no
horse breed anywhere in the world enough to carry a 500 pound person and I just looked up the gorilla
weight and the average is 300 pounds up to 500 yeah damn and these are these are advanced ape
yeah boys so they were probably on the average side if they are being carried by horses by big
horses yeah like by some big horses like I would have bought it more if like the gorillas were
riding like freaking Clydesdale's like Buffalo yeah honestly they rode zebras it would have been
a wash they're like that's crazy I want to see freaking Koba or Proximus on a buffalo that would
just be so badass I want to see them on an ape can I just say that I was a little bummed when we
left Falcon Camp because I was kind of really digging the like the vibes the native yeah
like native bird there Papa's Eagle hung out all movie yeah he's kind of a dick which was kind of
a dick but like I really kind of like the tribal monkey world that we were living in and then they
stripped that from it's a haha like movie we got back to like their clothes their costumes in the
CGI in tribal ape world was sick just I like that whole setting the like the ceremony the eggs them
getting the eggs what an opening seriously that was awesome that was holding my breath for fake
monkeys that was for awesome Suna kind of a bitch soon as fine as an eye is kind of a nice
a guy yeah Naya is kind of a bit I take yeah Suna yes but yeah Anaya freaking he's getting
stolen all fucking movie he's in love with with a night with Suna soon as I'm in love with Noah
big simp for no big fuck shout out Pride month yeah the the writing here was was was really well
done also I liked we're calling back the Mars the mission to Mars he's coming back to earth
oh my god yeah the freaking thing that they tie our they it was such a throwaway because
that was in the rise or was that dawn a little art the newspaper article yeah yeah I was in
rise I think it was at the end of the credits yeah okay yeah oh pumped I'm pumped to see what
comes of that Taylor's coming home early maybe the woman who got shriveled will be alive this
time bless you honey I shrunk the kids as cannon in this universe all that being said I have given
the writing a 94 yeah I I had close to no issues with this I put a couple points higher than my
story sitting at like a 92 Rose oh no like I'm trying to think like how high to give it because
the writing yeah you know I'm gonna actually go one point higher than mr. plunge to 95 now how
hard it is to write all of these movies with monkeys who can't speak at least the first three
that's impressive I don't know it's there huh there's like I was at a 76 so I was just I think
one point lower than 92 91 what I gave it I do I give it the 92 because that's up to you cancel
you canceled out okay hey say his words what a wonderful day I will bump it back up to the
92 I will I will forgive the minus one point because of Caesar's word all right moving on
over to acting this was freaking fantastic so going through this cast list real quick first
up we got Owen T I love I love Proxima Caesar edits Proxima Caesar hype edits first up we
got Owen Teague who plays Noah then we got Freya Allen who plays May slash Nova or Nova
slash May Kevin Durand who plays Proxima Caesar then we got Peter Makin who plays
Rocka then we got William H Macy who plays Trevathan he plays William H Macy yeah does
he ever play a character that just kind of doesn't suck a little bit no that's to be
determined I mean hey Wild Hogs what about that movie no like in Wild Hogs he was like
he sucked a little bit in Wild Hogs that's a wild he was the best character in that movie
I don't know what you're talking about man yeah Allen's biker movie they're in talks of
Wild Hogs to the whole gang wants to do it are you serious was it Tim Allen Martin Lawrence
John Travolta and William H Macy's biker yeah he says like they're all on like a group chat
the Wild Hog that's awesome that makes me happy I love that that's a great movie which
funny enough Kevin Durand's in that one too he's been getting on my nerves with all of
his tick-tock interviews I've been seeing has he he's every other tick-tock I see just
him being like that I really like how he found the voice for Proxima it's like yeah I found
it a great story talking like this and that's how I got to Proxima so I'm like okay buddy
I get it he's the starving artist that's a perfect way to put it yep all right next up
we got Lydia Peckham who played Suna I was Travis Jeffrey who played Anaya kind of looks
like a monkey as well then we got Eka Darville who played Silva that's a good name gentleman
yeah I like that all of these people play apes except for two one being William H Macy
yes Mr. Deadly himself all right what's everyone's top three look like whoever played
Proxima Caesar yeah I mean as much as I hate his tick-tock interviews I will give him one
he looks like he would play a killer dad on like a Malcolm in the Middle type sitcom in
this photo so true so true did he play some weird characters like he played the frickin
blob in X-Men origins freaking speaking um I just found out like a couple days ago he
was also in Wild Hogs 2 you did oh my bad well I'm fairly I'm oblivious I'm sorry I'm
hearing in a mirror this is like a textbook interaction between me and Riley I literally
just said that rose sorry okay I'm oblivious okay the Wild Hogs group chat yeah probably
not you guys know that there's a group chat for Wild Hogs 2 did you know they might be
making a second movie no what the whole gang's what did you know Kevin Durant was also in
Wild pay attention Rose my number two is gonna be the guy who plays Raka yeah every line
was executed perfection I liked him a lot and when he kicked the bucket I was sad we
don't know that for sure true according to the end credits they say that that's him so
I hope it's him Stan I really hope it's him but I'm also going off of the information
that I don't know if it's a hundred percent true because Tim Burton that heaps can't swim
you just pretend that the Tim Burton one never happened like that just do that I wish I could
or whatever the movie is I'll go with Noah's actor as well I didn't have a third I think
I'm gonna put him in my third he was good yeah a lead following Caesar that's a hard
fill roll to fill it looks like he's got something in his cheeks like bubble bubble
oh shit yeah I I would put him at my number two I put Kevin Durant at at number one though
and then my three was hard and I think I'll give her three just because she's supposed
to play someone that we aren't supposed to like that's true ultimately is Freya Allen
I thought she freaking killed it and she's hot I thought that was gonna be Caleb's reasoning
that's kind of my reasoning because I'm throwing Sunna or Sunna as my number three that lady
oh shit oh no for me number one I'm actually gonna be a little different from you guys
I'm giving one to Owen Teague loved him as Noah great if anyone if there's an ape that
is a great follow-up to Caesar they got him right here loved him his performance two I
think I'll actually wait no two I'm to Peter McCone McCone however the hell you say it
Rocka loved him fantastic everything that for all everything that he was trying to do
to keep the teachings of Caesar alive and what he actually what he stood for loved and
then number three I'd give to Kevin Durant who played see Proxima Caesar amazing like
when it comes to villains in this franchise I feel Koba is number one but like Proxima
Caesar yeah they have two really good ones yeah dude at the end of this I didn't even
really consider him a villain I think if let's let me say this if he didn't go full douchebag
at the end when they when all like the Eagle clan is trying to like run away and be like
oh I'm gonna like force you guys to like bend our mind in the head or whatever he was saying
yeah if he would have just like stood up and just being like like see what trusting humans
has brought like if he would have pulled that shit you guys gave another speech yeah I would
have to the preacher starts preaching yeah I would have been totally game for that totally
game yeah I I'm like dude like if you would have just like accepted what happened and
just like let our our hero kind of revel in what he's caused like that would have been
the shit and my and we would have gotten you for another movie but yeah acting was so good
I might be higher and even my writing on this one like I'm thinking like 93 that's what
I had yeah I feel I need to get with I'm taking a responsibility to give these movie therefore
acting flowers because no one did for the original three where Andy circus fucking deserved
awards I will give them their flowers now I am the fact that this got beat out by some
bullshit movies pisses me off I did run it back at a 92 as well nice just all of the
the voice acting and it was a lot of mocap too right it's all mocap it's all yeah which
I mean like as far as like modern CGI over mocap stuff goes this was like head and shoulders
above anything else that I've seen before as well and I think it was just masterfully
done and I'm excited to see it get even better as the movies go on yeah I mean they're still
constantly trying to think of ways to develop this technology and I send them to monkey
boot camp for six weeks these people are into it they're ready to go well that's not like
all of it it's like that the suits like they the people that worked on the like all these
movies they've developed the suits like these suits didn't exist prior to the first planet
of the apes movie coming out or prior to this company right I don't know if it's his company
if it is that's fantastic but yeah if I'll say I'll have to send you guys the link but
if you guys watch there's a show that I love watching on YouTube it's a visual effects
artists react and they got one of the visual effects supervisors on all three of these
movies are on for for now yeah on all four of these movies to come in and talk about
the behind the scenes like development of like CGI and whatnot or just like the like
how they've developed the mocap because they had to develop a whole new process because
like prior to this movie you couldn't do motion capture outside and they're like yeah we want
to do this shit outside and this is how and so like they went from like the the balls
on the on the gloves and whatnot like those markers the reason you couldn't go outside
is because it make them too bright and then the cameras couldn't track that shit anymore
so they had to develop these infrared cameras and then it would like the the balls and stuff
would blink lights and so those would be what they were tracking and they just developed
that technology further and further and further until you could do whatever the shit you want
imagine doing that for a monkey movie that's crazy yeah imagine the some of the greatest
technological advances I hate in fucking film come from the monkey movie ads by people that
push those boundaries like frickin anything sci-fi like pushes though like Star Wars has
developed a bunch of like crazy technology fallouts developed some this movie absolutely
has developed a ton but where were you sitting at Rose well I just I want to point something
out because I want to make sure that Caleb didn't already say this did you already say
what company does the I didn't say the name okay so it's a it's a weather digital that
does the motion capture and it's was actually founded by Peter Jackson oh what a wonderful
though that actually makes a lot of sense too because first time mocap wasn't that with
Lord of the Rings yeah with the Goleman and smegle so yeah that makes complete sense and
then I read something that they incorporated like King Kong into the some of the somewhere
in the into the plan of the ape stuff like the movements for them and that's from Jackson's
Kong so I was actually a body double for some of the true yeah Hunter works for what a yeah
what a wonderful day I just want to get that was the second time I made that joke but I
think it was the first time that anybody heard it that was good I like that okay I just I
just looked this up real quick like the history of motion capture the first feature-length
film to include a main character created using motion capture was the character of Jar Jar
Binks in Star Wars the Phantom Menace oh god yes why the first film to use mocap golem
right throughout the entire I was wait what hold on this freaking Google AI overview is
bullshit I said like famous people from year 1100 they're like do you want Anthony epic
Arcanius ad the third it's like no I want Marco Polo yeah I can't they made it so much
freaking harder I can't give it a 92 that's nice thank you I appreciate that are we bring
it up okay so the technology was first put to use to create a digital double of Val Kilmer
in Batman forever and James Cameron populated crowd scenes in Titanic in the summer of 1999
Jar Jar Binks and Phantom Menace was a motion capture character have any of you gone back
and watched Titanic with those scenes where like the freaking passengers are like clearly
CGI when they're doing like a freaking pan around of the Titanic ship never looked at
like it's never look can knock it be like I can't knock it because like it came out
in 1999 right isn't that one Titanic came out so yeah but like when someone points it
out to you and you see it you're just like damn that is a really noticeable is is pretty
bad all right next up we got character development so obviously we kind of had to do this on
Noah he really is the actor who develops I don't know may also develops the reverse
she fucking turns into a giant bitch that's what she does I don't like how she turned
on the ape species they were hunting her she was kind of in the right she was justified
dude I you can't blame anyone like may you can't really blame but I think it was the
way that she was just like totally anti cohabitation and she's like yeah no like we rule over you
or that's how it's supposed to be and then she bounces like I think yeah she kind of
spin yeah that kind of sucks about her but I think Noah goes through a pretty decent
arc like he starts off kind of being like a naive young boy can't get it yeah and then
he goes through this like this little adventure discovers religion little adventure his people
were enslaved and then he found God thank you very much yeah that he found and his best
friend died and his only other friend on earth tried to murder him and his entire species
and then he killed Hitler ape Hitler yeah of making the end versions there every big
movie franchise just revolves around running back the Holocaust it's true war for the planet
of the apes was just monkey literally monkey this one was more of like monkey Berlin I
liked how he actually the whole entire beach was kind of one big concentration camp I like
they literally were capturing monkeys from all over bringing them in via vehicle and
putting them to work yeah in order to fund and furnish their war metal door what does
that mean well they need now against the humans they needed all the weapons also can we talk
about how they like water doesn't disperse like that no no no it's 10 minutes of them
trying to like use thermite to open the door and then a bunch of monkeys exploded they're
like we'll try again tomorrow water doesn't disperse like that does my water doesn't disperse
when like when they blew the dam yeah it wouldn't fill up all the way like that at a certain
point it would it would stop all right particle physicists show that's me I well they were
at the top of the dam weren't they or they were like they like the dam was like that
yeah but then the vault also went up they had to climb get anything to get out yeah
but I mean but that wall was freaking high like the the dam holding the water back well
it's pretty freaking high I'm gonna need another watch I don't like waterworks like that a recess
yeah it made sense to me just cuz it's like okay the water levels up here and all the
shits down here but the fault went up yeah I mean didn't follow them up it did not all
the way that's how Silva died water nova died because he was chasing Noah through some tiny
ass pipes yeah he's a big big dumb dumb he called me the audacity call me a big dumb
dumb gorilla I literally have a video of you acting like a gorilla impossible oh yeah I
felt like Noah went through a lot of decent growth in this this is probably maybe like
one of the weaker points of the movie yeah I think I have it as my weaker my weakest
length where yeah where are you guys sitting with it I'm at an 86 and I also had decent
progression he came through at the end he stopped being a little bitch the mom I knew
that whole scene was coming I'm just like because I don't think they gave it like time
to like set now it was almost immediate he's just like no no I'm not going and then immediately
like you need someone to climb the mom was kind of like she got to listen to it to monkey
hillar you naughty you got to listen to a paler shut up mom I so I thought the the parallels
between Caesar and Noah were enough growth for a first movie like starting off this whole
series of probably unfortunate events I gave it a 91 okay oh yeah where are you sitting
Rose I think I'm more so on the levels of Riley or mr. plunge I'm sorry thank you I
apologize welcome welcome but I'm just gonna be here I'm just gonna be one point lower
than 85 and I'm one point lower than that I'm at an 84 you know kudos to you hunt for
really pushing it to the 90s I mean it deserves it like I get where you're coming from trying
to keep us from holes territory I really well I should also should say I keep wanting to
call him Maurice and I rock a rocka so that's a lot of people even though he was gone pretty
early on in the movie I could feel the echoes of his character through no and that's kind
of what pushed me up a little bit higher than you guys that's good point telling without
the actual character or spoken words which really like rockers words or Caesar's words
which developed Noah yeah Caesar developed in this movie wrong from one guy well from
another I think that's just what's so interesting about this it's like rocka and proxymus they
honored the same words it's just their interpretation of those words are different which if you
break it down to it that isn't that what religion is it's true proxymus is breaking Cobas words
speaking Cobas words are you a Caesar denier I'm not a Caesar denier I'm just saying that
there are a lot more parallels to proxymus Caesar and Coba in the words he preaches than
Caesar that's me like Caesar tonight that's okay because onto effects I gave it for the
first time in my life the mr. plunge 100 there I I had such a hard time trying to find or
notice anything any flaw yeah even like the grand landscape shots were beautiful and like
magical and set up this magical beautiful world like yeah like shit the only thing that
I was able to even like kind of pick out were the zebras yeah those were actually horses
horses yeah well no it wasn't even necessarily that like while they were like it was when
they were being chased and like the zebras were running past and everything there was
just one that looked a little extra rubbery and I was like that's seriously the only thing
that I can like pull out of this like everything else looked fantastic like the photorealism
of everything I mean everything was on freaking par like I'd say this is pretty on the same
level as war yeah 100% yeah it felt like war but just magical yeah yeah I'm at like 99
and that's seriously just because I'm like one rubber zebra yeah the one rubber zebra
such like a petty thing just be like hey that looks cool but everything else real oh shit
I personally did not notice the the rubber zebra so I'm gonna have to agree with mr.
plunge over the hundred what do you got mrs. plunge you guys are not gonna like this seeing
it it's not as bad as you think it is it fucked I bad I say I don't know like I can't put
my finger on one singular scene but like there are scenes that are just like I don't know
what about it hurt my eyes or like I couldn't focus on the whole thing I gave it a 94 though
it was absolutely stunning and beautiful just cuz you have shitty little eyes and couldn't
handle the IMAX screen you invited me to this dude the IMAX it can be really hard to take
in sometimes it was a lot oh no my eyes aren't good enough for this incredible quality you're
just mad that you're a caesar denier I think you're mad I'm a caesar denier I am to be
very happy in my world of kobe no wrong wrong he's gonna start a movement kobe was right
kobe was right let's not get it twisted is there a soundtrack kingdom of the plane of
the ape soundtrack all right next up we got music which this was unfortunately as average
as it gets like the score was all right john paysano I remember liking it but I gave it
a seven because I couldn't picture in my mind's eye any of the music that was played same
do distinctly remember there's a song called what a wonderful day followed by apes will
learn I will learn followed by together strong ape aquatics yeah I'm personally at a six
like I thought the score was good and that's about where it ended I didn't I wasn't too
impressed and I feel like there was like a real opportunity for them to like stand out
with that final song that they were singing the birds to bushwhack proximus but that one's
kind of hard to like it was hard to hum like it was a difficult tune to remember I'm having
trouble hearing you because Riley is listening to what a wonderful day it's mid mum mid I
give it a six too because it's mum mum mum is all right the rose I think I'd go a seven
I feel like comparing it to like the previous soundtracks especially wars which is like
phenomenal love wars soundtrack it definitely is a downgrade from that because I probably
wore like a nine so yeah seven for me okay all right moving on over to costumes which
with this being a very CG heavy film this is more based on the character design and
I did get some pictures from here to compare of like some of like my favorite outfits that
motherfucker on the screen what a wonderful day well actually I'm starting off with the
bird master went crazy every everyone in the bird tribe went crazy yeah look freaking sick
like I loved his like he was like shoulder guards of feathers was fantastic that guy
the birds love that guy they hated Noah he's the king of the birds now that is true yeah
then I like that we got our freaking boy Rocca Rocco was the man yeah the Raiders like when
they were out raiding were super cool too like because you didn't even know they were
apes at first they look super intimidating and like cool their masks cool as hell yeah
seriously look like that's a badass from the monkey apocalypse tasers yeah Rocco was dripped
out unbelievably dude I couldn't find a decent picture of the of the Raiders show me may
I'm ready now the next step we got Anaya like I'm just looking like the comparison between
the two like you I have a hard time with with characters that I can't see the actor in or
it's not like a hard time like I I love when that does happen because it's happened with
Bill scars guard when he transforms into Pennywise like the second they put the makeup like I
don't even know at what point because I've seen him like behind the scenes stuff of him
putting the makeup on and there's just like a certain point where it's just like oh shit
I can't see Bill anymore it was the same way with Heath Ledger's Joker like I can't see
Heath Ledger in the Joker at all and but this like the translation between human to ape
like I can see this actor in yeah Anaya like pretty easily and even more so with the with
the main actor Noah like oh yeah seriously you can't tell me that's not the same person
I mean I feel definitely with this new movie and especially in the the other trilogy I
feel for honestly every actor they try to do that especially Andy circuses Caesar like
it clear as day you can see Andy circuses it you can see Andy circus and Caesar you
can definitely see his face absolutely and then finally we got to talk about our boy
I dripped out what a wonderful day say his words the crown the fucking necklace thing
goes crazy all of his guards they look sick he also just generally had swag he did yeah
dripped out dude did you guys notice this little I bet you they did this on purpose
but did you notice like his whole neck guard thing is in the shape of the window I guess
because it goes like it goes down like a spike on the back too so like he's got the spikes
on the shoulders spike going down the front and then the one going down the back so I
mean it's it's the shape of the Caesars window that's bitching like and yeah and then freaking
Silva back there looking like a freaking boss yeah and then forget what his name was I think
it's lightning the one that's in the the puffy yeah it's lightning like the fox shawl gorilla
heads look like Kiwis a little bit anyways I gave the cops a 10 same same yeah same here
10s across the frickin board yeah yeah like for me like this was all right like this what
if it would have just been playing apes I probably would have been at like a nine but
it's just something that makes a movie stand out as a solid silhouette and you couldn't
freaking just black this character out and not know that it was freaking Proximus if
you did the who's that Pokemon it's Proximus Caesar yeah absolutely like in any pose to
like he wouldn't even need to be in like his arms up pose like he could be literally just
sitting like me and Riley right now you're like yeah that's I know him yeah and then
Noah I feel like he though his silhouette isn't as distinct like it does very I felt
like they did this on purpose they chose an ape that looks very much like Caesar yeah
he's got the same birthmark and shit too and that'd be a tricky one you'd think so interesting
but it's actually electro yeah the only I think the only difference really between Caesar
and Noah is just Noah's a little skinnier he's also younger by the time the movies for
the first three ended so I mean yeah probably looks closer to him in rise yeah probably
yeah make sense but yeah I mean I freaking love it like no bad things to say about these
character designs I love seeing how they try to interpret ape clothing yeah like puffy
vests and some just some jeans some nice jeans and a hoodie jeans the entire first none of
people talk about Caesar's slacks they did rip it's true guys were in slacks the entire
dude I thought he looked cool as hell when he was wearing the the rocket rocket was beating
his ass and he was in fucking work slacks what happened to you I got jumped in my car
heart and shit all right last up we got our own personal scores so Rose you want to take
this one first are you motherfucker okay and you can't pull though I agree with you bullshit
you know what the same way you start to fight strong it all started with the the ending
of the all bros that's that's what caused a kind of rice oh guys are mr. and mrs. plunge
your new hosts of the all bros they were not anyway so rise dawn war are is one of my favorite
trilogies of all time the it just just genuinely gets better and better and better and so I
was very I was a little hesitant not actually I would say very hesitant on if they would
be able to continue with amazing me with this franchise but they did it they they really
did it this is a perfect start to this new trilogy I cannot wait to see where they take
this the new characters I absolutely love Noah's a great protagonist a great protagonist and
I can't wait to us wait what do you say antagonist I did not okay oh okay um yeah I can't wait
to see where Noah goes just honestly all these characters I'm very interested to see how
things go with the humans so with May leading the revolution May leaving leading the revolution
with them and just you know reaching out to other humans that can actually still speak
I really don't have anything even a leader she's a freaking lackey she's that's true
it's not wrong um yeah this was a great start to the trilogy and I cannot freaking wait
to see where they go from here so I personal score I'm going to give it a 96 a banger and
the banger score and Caleb I'm gonna submit it and so I can't change anything all right
what about you guys go ahead huh I felt very strongly the same as Rose but again I kind
of said earlier it was less octane high octane and in my personal opinion thought that the
pacing was ever so slightly slower than the beginning of rise however different time period
different set of circumstances where they are essentially already the dominant species on
earth compared to the the humans affected by the what's the virus called AZ 112 with
that being said I gave it a 93 and I also so I can't change anything I already submitted
mine so my letterbox I gave mine an 87.58 but I'm grading on a scale for here so I gave
a 92 based on my scale my all bros scale grading curve really liked it it was fun it's weird
because like we say all these good things and I think everyone at all those could be
true while everyone can also be like and also I think it's my fourth favorite of the four
which is a weird which is a weird thing I mean like Rose might hit me based on what
I've heard I liked it more than war I did yeah I'm gonna hit I'm gonna reach through
this screen hitch man no one disrespects war like that and I loved this like you're gonna
hate me but I actually would probably put it above rise I go dawn rise kingdom war I
think mines war dawn kingdom rise rise interest first is wild or last sorry I might be on
it's taking a lot of people I think a lot of people have rise last I just loved the
Caesar arc you and we talked about I love the Caesar or the Golden Gate Bridge battle
the Golden Gate Bridge maybe the best sequence in the entire franchise oh man that was a
great sequence that's fair yeah from the point of no to them getting to the redwood maybe
my favorite like 25 30 Caesar is home the franchise yeah I ended up putting it where
I feel my like I like this pretty equally with rise I did I like I like this a little bit
like barely more than rise I think visually it's a lot better yeah that that's also a
thing to take into it's a lot better it's so much better made then rise and probably
dawn yeah but I think story wise I they're on the same level for me so I ended up putting
them both at a 91 have you guys done the other three on the show so those were I think we
did those as bonus ones when we were posting those to like Instagram like we were making
like little reels trying to write a little art it wasn't a real like it was just swiping
through the pictures and we were putting like a little something because Rose was was visiting
so we were just knocking out a bunch of movies and stuff so I was are they are we try these
it was a lot of work so we have scores for them we've just never done them in an official
episode stents yeah I don't even think we watched the movies like we just scored them
dude going back like because I actually looked at those I think yesterday you know in preparation
for this episode just to see where they were ranked I I feel that we were a little too
harsh at least with dawn I feel dawn should have scored higher and dawn's really good
yeah I think I was looking at those before you know you don't know Koba's an all-time
great villain in the moment you know sometimes you look so when we so when we wrote or when
we came up with all those scores and stuff and I think that was like our deciding factor
on like if we're gonna do a movie it needs to be something that we've seen within the
past week or two yeah because we were trying to come up with stuff to write about plan
of the apes but we hadn't seen them in years and so we were just like monkeys are cool
yeah we were just like writing some bull trying to remember certain stuff and then the last
time I'd seen them was with war like the I'd seen war I think we watched no I think we
saw them all in theaters but it was like with all that separation so I didn't and I'm so
bad with names so I didn't recognize the freaking apes so I was just like okay who's this dude
who's this guy and like all this so watching them all in sequence really helped me out
a lot so yeah I feel like that's definitely some scores that we need to read address but
with all of those scores I'll be a really fun episode is just going through your biggest
listener complaints and rehashing yeah well our biggest complaint was Scott Pilgrim would
you lower high low oh cuz this is what happened we I think I included you guys in this we
were do like when we developed this system with like the numbers and everything cuz we
were just coming up with like random like letter grades off the top of our head and
I'm like now we need like a legitimate system to like accurately score these so when we
developed this we had like a decent amount of I think it was like 20 or something movies
that we hadn't had scores for and so I so we did an episode where we were gonna score
them all and so I sent it out to a bunch of people and I was like hey here's a list of
movies rank whatever or score whatever ones you want based off of this system go and one
of the guys that sent a score in for Scott Pilgrim hated the movie yeah and we really
liked it so our scores alone it was like at an a- yeah I think you got to do a rehash
yeah well we did yeah we did with that one but the make right pilgrim episode yeah so
what we did with that is before my kid was born we recorded a bunch of like watch alongs
yeah so we just like recorded ourselves watching Scott Pilgrim and did like a score while we
were watching it and it got back up it it wasn't at an a- like it was the first go around
like we were more like b-plus range but it was a high b-plus yeah so we we went and redid
those and some other ones that we had complaints with like we did Deadpool 2 that was pretty
low and so yeah so we need to do one for Planet of the Apes especially after having just rewatched
them yeah quarterly redux episode I'm all in on yeah it's really simple all right going
through these scores real quick starting off with story we are sitting at a 90 that's good
writing it got a little bit of a bump sitting at a 93 the acting got one point lower or
less than one point lower it's sitting at a 92.25 character development is where this
movie took a bit of a dive it's sitting at an 86.5 holes territory yeah the effects are
this second highest category setting at a 98.25 you fuck look at me but as directed
Mr. Plastic Zebra over there all right all right next up music we are sitting at a six
out of ten the costume or character design in this case is sitting at a ten out of ten
and then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 93 so with that the final all bros
and plunge letter grade for kingdom of the planet of the apes has come out to a a minus
no I'll take that yeah that's good definitely take that out of a minus what a wonderful
day yeah like it's it's in a good zone it's a it's a 91% all right flat which yeah 91
black damn that's awesome yeah that rarely ever happens but it's so right now it is tied
like exact same score as how to train your dragon the hidden world yo I like that that's
good shit right there yeah that's awesome over in my life between different things is
alarming how my both sides of a crossover I don't know all right so do you guys want
to hear what this is below first or what it's above I would like to hear what it's below
same all right so like I said it's on the same level as how to train your dragon the
hidden world there is a movie's a fucking banger slept on banger do that you know I
feel the whole how to train your dragon trilogy is unbelievable yeah all right so this is
sitting below once upon a time in Hollywood okay it is below the holdovers okay the episode
I was not on but in my head think I was on yep it is below puss in boots the last wish
that's funny oh this might be controversial it is below shung chi and the legend of the
ten rings oh yeah bullshit no I don't hate that no I hate that I it is below Creed 3
correct yeah and then finally it is below cocoa yeah yeah no they would it's above put
it on my plate let me eat it up num num num num num you haven't seen Creed 3 oh you haven't
seen Creed's no brother I'll give you my three disc box set I'm starting House of the Dragon
tomorrow good that all right go in the opposite direction it is sitting above turning red
that's too high no that movie got way too much love by YouTube specifically apparently
it is above tusk what are these movies now are you are you saying this movies above because
they're actually they're like in the 70s range but technically we're staying no no no no
these are all right movies okay hey can that be one that we regrade can we regrade tusk
no we can't regrade tusk damn it there is a bigger gap between Kingdom and tusk then
Kingdom and Creed 3 if that helps so the difference between Kingdom and Creed 3 is point three
percent the difference between tusk and and Kingdom oh it's also point three percent nevermind
I was doing bad math I also vote for the tusk redux thank thank you their tusk was some
good shit dude I'm sorry the race did you just miss that episode was that just Caleb
running wild no I was there no I was I was there with his cousin Vic and like honestly
thinking like now more about yeah like you know like seriously like thinking back to
like how the movie is you know like just just think you let their words come much slower
damn that words influence you that I think I did I'm sorry to say that we can't tell
I can't tell because this is so it wasn't until like a little later that we started
separating the scores like between like my scores and and Rose's score and then yeah
so this is one that like it's a combined score so I can't tell who gave what damn Rose actually
even more of a reason to do a regrading got it no forget you we can't just go and regrade
everything but you can't I feel that wouldn't ask for reasoning yeah you're wrong I think
you need to tell your AI prompt to make a little script for asking the people if they
want to a tusk redo all right let's see this is also sitting above promising young woman
these aren't movies I'm convinced all right here here's here's one you might know you
think so it's whole no it's not holes it is above holes but it is above Sonic the Hedgehog
2 I have seen that what yeah yeah all right it's above Doctor Strange in the multiverse
of madness I know that was too close to that one it is also above the weird the Al Yankovic
story I okay how are the movies that I've never heard of so high and then the ones that
are I do know what they are they're like yeah these are shit everything these are all amazement
minus movies everything above he named is like a huge movie everything below is not
and those are the ones you're like of course I know weird the weird Al Yankovic the weird
Al Yankovic I'm still blown away you haven't seen Coco that just blows me away I don't
even know is that about the signing gorilla remember me no Coco's the one about the kid
that visits the land of the dead I don't know that I actually got mad about Coco the other
day like literally yesterday because in my greatest showman obsession I went this movie
obviously won the Oscar for best song and probably was all five nominees and then I
looked it up and it did not win Coco won best song you know I got to agree with you there
because this is me I feel is actually a better song don't get me wrong like remember me is
so good amazing but this is me is such a banger it's so freaking good
the bearded lady with the big bong bong bong roos came on screen I forgot to choose a movie
with the big bong bong bong roos yeah that's oh my god I love that it's the perfect way
to put it go fk alright you guys want to hear the ranking of all the plan of the apes movies
here we'll do it no if we hold on no laughing I'll give you the sound by right now bong
bong bong bong roos bong bong bong roos are you jorkeling your penis my jorke jorpen my
penis yeah let's hear the rankings of the four all right so starting off so we'll go
bottom to top so sitting at the bottom at an eighty nine point two five percent is rise
of the plan of the apes that's far too low that seems right let me pull up my rankings
too I'd like to know then in third place at an eighty nine point eight seven percent is
uh dawn wait sorry what do you what do you have rise at eighty nine point two five okay
I have right I have rise at ninety point zero one so we're pretty close dawn dawn is at
an eighty nine point eight seven eight ninety point eight four almost within a point oh
then in second place is kingdom at ninety one hell yeah and then number one spot is
war and ninety three point one two god damn I had were eighty seven point one two yeah
so dawn and rise are sitting at a b plus war and kingdom are sitting at an a minus what's
the number one movies you guys have the number one movie yeah is it a real movie I'm gonna
have yes it's a real movie it is any spider-man no way home I like that so our top our top
five is spider-man no way home avengers avengers no guardians volume three yeah volume three
yeah your number two movie of all time is guardians volume three yeah okay carry on
then Barbie no thanks gotta go I'd like a reduction episode no cuz Caleb didn't like
that movie as much as I did yeah the number four is across the spider-verse I like that
and then number five is bohemian rap city that movie goes in sano style that's such
a good movie yeah and then let's see I like you guys yeah so so war of the plan of the
apes is number nine of ten let's go yeah like we don't even so the only one that beats
that one out is endgame so like what the hell I'll just keep going on number six is the
ballad of buster scrugs fake movie yeah go on agree then seven is teenage mutant ninja
turtles mutant mayhem that's a fantastic movie you should watch that when it goes crazy yeah
then animated in the style of into the spider-verse then number seven is avengers endgame or number
eight is avengers endgame number seven then nine is war of the plan of the apes and then
ten is room to tell me what we ranked it that high I mean why is that no not Tommy why is
that the sad depressing one yeah what the fuck yeah that's hilarious that rounds out
yeah that's our top ten nice then we got other ones like yeah then after that's like infinity
war black panther wonka in the spider-verse bobs burgers movie that's too high too high
for bobs burgers movie it's such a standard movie dude the bobs burger movies awesome
burger it was good it was just a standard episode of bobs burgers but a long murder
mystery I think we applied for that I we dug it but yeah so that's where it's where it's
ranking right now I like it I like the list and I like you I like that the numbers need
to don't need to mean anything ain't that right DJ yeah yeah he has beef yeah he has
a little bit of beef because he says that the rankings more important than it is we
really care about the grade and we feel like the grades are accurate the percentage is
not always as you can tell through our what it's above movies in the top ten aren't real
so no I'm with all right well I believe that wraps up this week's breakdown so you guys
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it's yeah they do can I make a special request that this episode is just hot bong hong dong
bong roo I make an extra special request that it's not at least go in the show notes I'll
throw it in the show notes rose for the spelling thank you guys thank you absolutely is a blast
you guys are welcome anytime like we're gonna as soon as I enter you got into the invite
for the next five or four movies coming out what are the next four get released in this
no like none of the apes movies oh yeah true thank you yeah we will take those up we'll
be here yeah only if you only if you yeah only if you rehash dawn yeah as soon as I
entered monkey mania I texted Caleb I was like I need to be on the monkey on the apes
episode for kingdom yes you got it yeah anytime you guys want to join whatever movie we don't
we're not picky it's true are you doing Furiosa I think we will eventually I need to watch
the first mad max oh yeah but I've been trying to I mean he might not know this but I've
been holding on watching it for the first time because it's one of DJ's favorite movies
and he didn't get to see it in theaters so I'm sure I'm attempting to find the time to
watch mad max or fury road in on the big screen for VR good DJ that'd be fun let's take a
cell yeah awesome all right if you guys like this episode want to check out more of our
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forward to us breaking down the fairly average movie if he sounds so excited not a real movie
no I haven't but freaking I love that Caleb's just like and he was okay with me but then
freaking our our friend Sam like absolutely loved it and did he really yeah especially
his wife Stacey like she loved like she can't wait to buy it when it comes out on blu-ray
like I got two conflicting views here so I'm curious if I'm gonna love it or hate it I
feel I'm probably gonna be more so on Caleb's side yeah what do you go with your kids yeah
she she was she was into it okay but she liked it she it was a bit slow for her taste ass
is stacked yeah the cast is ridiculous true but it was a little slow pace for her for
her taste but she I okay two thumbs up from bad ape yeah but it was all right like I didn't
come out hating the movie or anything it just wasn't like absolutely fantastic I think I've
already asked this is it better than Garfield like that's how I'm gonna set my standards
on Garfield okay okay all right have you seen Garfield I have seen Garfield yeah so I I
took my daughter to go see both of those she was a little bit more into Garfield just because
it was a little bit like quicker paced and like cartoony bright colors all that good
stuff like shit that distracts kids if was a bit slower like I think that's more for
like older kids but Garfield's more for younger seems the opposite from the trailers every
time you would think yeah Garfield's for no one because it's not a Garfield movie Garfield's
for Mondays even Mondays doesn't deserve the shit that is that movie I was telling Caleb
I liked the live-action movie more than that one you like the live-action to kid to kill
to those kiddies so tale of two kiddies is still the worst Garfield movie or at least
worse Garfield wait what oh hunters mad about that he didn't even what you like a tale of
two kiddies freaking hate that movie like rake it like you know not this might be a
spoiler for you know Garfield episode but like number three tale of two kiddies number
two the the Garfield move with Chris Pratt and then number one and like this is the one
with Bill Murray and like this and it's not even none of these are great not even good
they're just like all of them are just they're okay but at least the one with yeah the the
one with Bill Murray at least is I feel watchable I don't want to hear any more any more
a verse lines towards a tale of two kiddies yeah so you can look forward to that episode
not Garfield the if episode we might do Garfield we'll see whichever one we have feelings about
is the one that we're going to do next week yeah there you go until then this has been
the all bros featuring the plunge podcast and we'll catch you guys next week what a
wonderful episode bye bye