What is up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
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With this week's episode, if you guys listened to last week's, had some things going on.
But I told you guys that we were going to be doing Bob Marley one love, which is a lie.
I lied to you guys.
I'm so sorry.
But instead, we will be doing Argyle.
So that will be our headliner for this episode.
Because when I was out there in Georgia this past weekend, me and Caleb watched it.
So we decided want to talk about that one instead.
So yeah, and we'll get into why we made that change in a second.
Because one love is on our weekly watch now.
Yeah.
But before that, we'll be going over our weekly watches.
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All right.
So jumping right into weekly watches.
We actually got quite a few to talk about, I feel.
Next up, we have the movie that one of us watched.
I did not get the chance to watch One Love because in preparing for me to be able to
make it out to Georgia this past weekend to a convention that me and Caleb went to, which
if you guys actually still care about the Gacy Gazette, a new episode of that will be
coming very soon where me and Caleb are definitely going to talk about everything that happened
at that convention we went to.
It was phenomenal.
It was amazing.
And I can't wait to talk about that.
Anyway, because of that, I did not get to watch Bob Marley One Love.
But Caleb did.
And Caleb, what did you think of it?
I thought it was a good-ish movie.
I didn't have like super strong feelings either way.
I felt like the structure was odd.
So the way this movie takes place is it starts off basically explaining to you like Bob Marley's
origins, I guess, a little bit.
And it's just like, oh, yeah, at this point in time, he's at the peak of his career and
he's on his way to go do a show in Jamaica.
And all this other stuff.
And then it then it continues the or then it starts the movie.
And so you're in the middle of conflict already.
So right there, it feels odd.
I'm like, OK, we didn't build up to that in any significant way.
We just kind of got a quick title and then boom, you're into it.
Then the whole situation with him getting attacked in his I don't know if it was his
house or just some sort of like compound that they were at.
But some people sneak in, shoot up the place.
His wife gets critically injured.
He is shot like bad things all around.
Anyway, he tries to stick around Jamaica to do the show.
I think he goes and does like one show and then he's like, yeah, I'm having problems
here and bounces to the UK and creates.
And like he's out there for like months and works on an album, creates the album.
And then it's like by the time the album's like already hit its fricking peak, like he
he goes out to or he goes back to Jamaica because he's like personally invited.
During that time, there was a lot of civil war and like conflict happening.
And so a lot of the two, I guess, rival leaders were were the ones that were like their teams
were responsible for what happened to Bob Marley.
Like the order wasn't executed by them.
Like they did not personally tell that any of their members to go after him.
They just kind of took it upon themselves.
And so they came to him in the UK together and were like, hey, the only person that can
unify Jamaica right now is you.
And he's like, forget you guys.
Last time I went there, I went shot and I'm like, yeah, don't blame you, bro.
Then while he's in the UK, he gets diagnosed with a cancer that's in his toe.
They say that to stop the spread, they'd have to remove his toe.
And he's like, no, I'm not doing that.
And then.
So them and so, yeah, it's like going through this whole thing like he spends the months
and months and months writing the songs for this this album doesn't even like perform
the like the the album in Jamaica for a long time.
And then it's like at the end of the movie, he goes back to do this performance that the
unify Jamaica.
And then they they show like one song from the album being sung there and people just
kind of singing along.
And then it's like, boom, credits.
And I'm like, what the?
But what is this?
Like I want to see the frickin like.
Like you spent all this time to build up like I'm like, so ultimately what we got is when
he frickin bounced out of Jamaica, the months that he was in the UK writing this new album,
the month that he spent frickin getting the album popular and then boom back to Jamaica
for a little bit to perform like not even a full song.
And then, oh, yeah.
And then this is what happened after that.
And I'm like, dude, like you structured this so poorly.
Yeah, damn.
So it's it's not on the same levels as like Rocket Man or Bohemian Rhapsody, not even
a little bit like.
Bohemian Rhapsody, I I would say almost tried to follow that like that method, because at
the time, like with.
Queen it, well, even then it still did the build up to their popularity.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Like they were kind of already an assembled band at that point.
But I don't know.
Like I feel like Bohemian Rhapsody did it a little bit better.
A lot of it better.
But this one, it it took them to like with Queen, it followed them from them starting
out to the absolute peak in their career and then.
And then like continue the story on from there.
And then Rocket Man, it showed us.
Elton John's entire life from basically beginning to end.
Or beginning to where it's at.
Yeah.
They are rather where he finally got to like a good place here.
It's it skips us to the point where he's at his peak, gives us a really odd look like
period of time in his life where he was.
Like writing an album because of like stuff that was happening in Jamaica.
And then it shows us him going back to Jamaica and then it cuts it off.
And it's like, all right.
And then this is what happened till the end of his his life.
And I'm like, dude, what the shit?
OK, you can't do both.
You can't not do both.
Now you either got to like skip the beginning or you got to skip the end.
You don't get both.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, it was his eyes.
So I saw that this one, which really shocked me, that was only an hour, like forty seven
minutes and I feel really because I was because most music biopics are over two hours.
So I was just wondering if like you feel it would have benefited from a longer runtime
if they were able to like maybe flesh out more if they were.
I don't even know.
I don't know if that would if that could have helped because.
It was just it was poorly structured is what it comes down to.
It was poorly structured and a poor structure like more runtime isn't going to help any.
Like I said, it already felt like it was over two hours long.
Damn, that sucks.
I didn't know the runtime before you said anything.
And I honestly would have guessed it to be over an hour.
She or over over to.
Oh, OK.
Damn.
Yeah, that's not that's definitely not a good sign.
The only real like.
The highlight point of this movie has to be coming from the cast.
I think the cast did incredible.
The guy that plays Bob Marley, fantastic.
And everyone else that's on the cast does great.
My biggest issue, and I think the only issue is the story structure.
Also whoever did the subtitles forget you because you guys did the frickin Jamaican
slang in it.
And I was like because I didn't have the subtitles on initially.
And I was like, OK, I'm having a hard time understanding.
So I turned on the subtitles and those didn't help me at all.
I was like, well, shit.
The Jamaican slang and terminology.
I picked it up eventually.
You weren't vibing with it, man.
It took a minute to get into.
But we're to like kind of grasp what they were saying, because like what they like to
do, they don't like to repeat words, so they like to use them together.
But they were writing it out like that, too.
And I was like, God damn it.
Can you tell like, can you translate it, please?
But yeah, like that.
The cast did incredible.
All the props to them.
Whoever edited this was not on their A game.
It needed work.
So because of that, I decided that this is getting a stream it recommendation because
it's still worth watching.
I think like the story, the soundtrack is phenomenal.
But the biggest problem is the story structure, and I would have felt like my I would have
been cheated out of money if I saw this in theaters.
Really damn shit.
OK.
Yeah.
But I do think that this is worth streaming.
OK.
All right.
And if you get if you guys want to stream it, it's on Paramount Plus right now.
Yeah.
Or is it Paramount?
I thought it was Peacock.
No, it's Paramount.
OK, cool.
All right.
Well, then next up for Caleb, we got Shrek 2.
The freaking goat when it comes to DreamWorks movies.
I don't care what anyone says.
Shrek and Shrek 2 are phenomenal movies.
They really are.
They're.
Oh, my gosh.
I honestly think and this is going to be reflected in the this the rating I gave this.
The best way to view this would be to get a bunch of Shrek fans together for a watch
along in like an in theater watch along.
So it's funny you say that because I'm sure a lot of people did that this year because
they really set in theaters this year because two thousand twenty four marks twenty years
since Shrek 2 came out.
Do how old do you feel now?
First off, really freaking old.
But a phenomenal movie, dude.
It holds up so well.
It's not even like, oh, my gosh.
So good.
So the reason I watched this and spoiler alert for the other movies I've watched, I watched
this three and four.
I have not watched the first one all the way through yet because I want to do a movie night
out here on my projector with the family and watch the first Shrek.
So that's why I I skip the first one and watch two, three and four.
But this.
So my daughter just like basically just discovered Shrek.
She started watching the first one on her own because she's just like, oh, my gosh,
it's a Hulk movie.
And I was like, not exactly.
But after she was done watching it and she watched it multiple times, dude, like she
watched it like three or four times in a row.
Nothing but Shrek.
And so I almost died laughing because I came home on like one night like because she she
started watching this, I think, last week.
But I come home and I want to save Wednesday or Thursday.
And she comes over to me and she's just like, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.
And I was like, what's that, baby?
And she's like, do you know the Muffin Man?
And I was like, yes.
And I was losing my mind and I was like, I have reached the peak.
And so I was just like, the Muffin Man.
And she's like, yes, the Muffin Man.
And I was like, yeah, I know the Muffin Man.
And so we did the whole freaking thing.
And so when it finally gets to the like, because she's just like, well, she's married to the
Muffin Man.
I'm like, the Muffin Man.
And then she just the Muffin Man.
And yeah, I'm freaking and now so if I like go to tickle her, like, like, my go to is
I grab her her stomach, right?
Like just to like get her sides or whatever.
So I grabbed her stomach and she I did it today.
Actually, I grabbed her stomach to tickle her and she's just like, not my buttons.
Like not my gumdrop buttons.
Oh, that is so cute.
I was like, dude, like, this is fantastic.
So now now anytime she like comes up, she'll like grab my grab my stomach or I'll grab
hers.
And she's just like, not the buttons.
But oh, my gosh, so good.
Like Shrek is this is the best.
This is I love how she's able to pick up movie quotes.
And dude, I'm so pumped to show her Nacho Libre because that is like my family's like
go to super quotable movie.
So I'm so pumped.
I'm so pumped.
Yeah, confession time, I've never seen Nacho Libre.
Oh, man, you're missing out.
You are missing out.
Just never intrigued me as a kid, but I really do need to watch it.
It's it's I saw I saw I saw a parody in an epic movie.
I remember that.
It's it's like a stupid funny movie.
All right.
But it's like it's so quotable, dude.
Me like my brother.
My like my youngest brother can quote Nacho Libre word for word, the entirety of that movie.
That's impressive.
Holy shit.
And it's because I think it's personally because of how well it's written, because they don't
waste any lines.
Okay.
Like if something's in there that I think that they were going to fill with bullshit,
it's just silence.
And that silence is just it's filled with some like super funny shit.
But yeah, my brother and I can like we will go back and forth on on movie quotes with
that a lot.
I love it.
But oh, so good.
It's such a good movie.
Anyway, getting back to Shrek 2, this movie is a frickin banger.
Everything that everything you hoped would hold up holds up.
The frickin the fairy godmother singing holding out for a hero.
A frickin banger.
A absolute banger.
And oh my gosh, so good.
I honestly forgot how much of that movie Shrek spent as a human.
Like I thought that was wild.
Yeah, can we talk about how there is one specific scene in there that would not pass in any
animated film today?
Definitely.
I don't think this movie would still be rated PG if they put that line in a kids movie.
I hope I hope I please tell me you know what scene I'm talking about.
I have a feeling it's when they're getting arrested.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like I don't dude.
I don't know, man.
Like there's that scene and also frickin in Jingle all the way.
There's a there's a there's a scene in that one that I'm just like, yes, like, it can
be considered a kids movie anymore, because you can't see that shit now.
I don't know.
They pulled it off in a way that was funny.
I like they parody so many movies, dude, in Shrek, because I mean, they did a parody of
Spider-Man, like the Spider-Man kiss.
They did like frickin cops.
They they like they did so many parodies in this and the introduction to one of my favorite
characters of all time, Puss in Boots.
I love it.
Like I love when when they drink the potion initially and like to test it, Donkey chugs
a little bit down and he's just like, I don't feel any different.
Do I look any different?
And Puss is like, you still look like an ass to me.
Dude, I hate the frickin the third and fourth on which spoiler like you said, spoiler alert
or next up.
But I hate that neither of those put an ass joke because the second one has that one.
And then the first one after Shrek saves Fiona, she's like, well, where the hell are you go?
Or she doesn't say hell.
She's like, where are you going?
He's like, well, I have to save my ass.
Like, I hate the third and fourth.
Don't use a good ass joke.
Like, I don't know if they like what's the time difference between Shrek the third?
OK, so Shrek two was 2004 Shrek.
The third was 2007.
I don't think that they could have gotten away with an ass joke in 2007.
Damn it.
That sucks.
Yeah.
That's unfortunate.
But absolutely loved Donkey in this.
And Puss, the relationship between those two is perfection.
I truly wish that we would have gotten to see what happened to Dragon.
Yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, because like that to Shrek turns human.
So Fiona turns human.
Donkey turns into a stallion.
So it's like, does Dragon turn into a stallion?
Like I wish I knew what happened.
Yeah, but again, another very quotable movie.
One of my favorite bits is when Shrek and Donkey are breaking into Fairy Godmother's
factory and the dude, he's just like, oh, we're from the Union.
And they're just like, are you feeling oppressed or anything like this?
And he's like, yeah, well, we don't even have dental.
And he's just like, you don't even have dental.
He's like, we're just going to take a look around.
And he's just like, oh, yes, yes, yes, go on.
Because I was like, I'm like, I knew that bit was coming up.
I'm like, I forget how they get into the facility.
And they just kind of like walk in.
Loved it.
Absolutely loved it.
Yeah.
Oh, loved every second of it.
So I am giving Shrek to a full price ticket recommendation on that one.
Did I kick myself or not?
Sorry, I kicked myself for not re-catching in the theaters when it was still in theaters
a couple months ago.
I honestly would have gone to see it had I known that that's what they were doing.
Yeah, right.
Because dude, that would have been so cool if you and Iris would have been able to see
that on the big screen.
Oh, man.
I hope they do that with like a 30th anniversary because I think that'd be great.
When she's like 14, like she's at that age where or she'd be at the age where like all
that kid stuff is stupid to her.
But I bet you she'll freaking love it.
Because I mean, like that would be the peak time because she'll be 14.
She won't want to enjoy it, but she will.
And if I get Levi too, because he'll be 10 years old, like at during like for a 30th
anniversary or like that, that would be the shit.
That would be absolute shit.
Like the 10 is like the peak fart joke time.
Like he would love it.
They're both going to love it.
I'm so pumped.
Anyway, Shrek the third, very forgettable.
Yeah.
Very weak plot line, very weak villain, very weak story structure.
I remember walking out of this movie after seeing it with my grandma and just feeling
let down, disappointed.
Just like I think like the thing I probably liked more about this movie or like I liked
more about.
Yeah, I guess more about this movie than the actual movie was like the frickin like McDonald's
toys that they came out with for this one, because those were actually cool as hell toys.
I don't remember those.
There was I mean, I think it was just like they said like audio from the movie, but like
they were actually like really sculpted really well.
And then I also frickin remembered like like they took over everything for Shrek, like
literally anything that they could turn green.
They did.
I remember that.
Yeah, you had green Twinkies green, I think waffles frickin.
They had frickin green Cheetos that I mean, they weren't green, but when you ate them,
they literally turned your your tongue green.
So frickin yeah, like literally everything was was frickin Shrek.
2007 summer.
I will never forget because that was like one of the greatest summers of all time, at
least for like franchises coming out because he had Spider-Man three.
And yeah, Shrek the third.
And then you had the frickin Simpsons movie.
Like 2007 was a pretty bitch in time period.
Yeah.
Summer 07 one.
Like I will always remember that summer.
Just because specifically of those three movies.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I remember for some reason Shrek shaped nuggets.
I think you're I think Burger King had those.
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
But I think that was for Shrek two.
I don't think that was because one bullshit.
No that's not.
I don't know who the hell you think you're kidding, Sammy.
You're thinking of Shrek forever after the next one.
You're just a little ahead of yourself.
But so it was really frickin weird because Shrek to Burger King got the promotion for
that one and I swear that that's when they had the Shrek chicken nuggets.
But then when Shrek the third came out and the licensing went to McDonald's for some
reason they didn't do anything.
I think all they had was the toys and they had like they turned their like one of the
I'm assuming probably one of their shakes green.
And what else?
No it literally is not.
I know I'll frickin fight you.
I kid you not.
I watched this all Sunday night.
I watched all three of I watched two three and four all on Sunday night.
I love it.
Oh dude this was this was the other one frickin I'm sorry we're not I'm sorry I'm like distracting
you from talking about the movie.
But it was also like they have like glass drinkware for Shrek the third and I think
like they found like lead poison in them.
So they had to frickin pull it.
They had to pull the line.
I strictly remember that for Shrek the third McDonald's.
So I'm giving this damn review.
That's hard.
That's the exact grade we give Shrek the third.
So I'm kidding.
I don't hate it that much.
No it's more like a two.
Oh shit.
I don't think the lot like the lines were nearly as memorable in Shrek the third.
The only one that I remember super well actually okay that's false.
There's two.
There's two that I remember really well.
The first one is when Merlin offers I think what's it already.
I think they call him already.
Yeah already in Shrek his like his like rock soup and he like takes a bite out of it and
he's like it's organic and his teeth are like all.
Oh bullshit.
They are so memorable.
Not that memorable.
There's certain parts that are memorable but overall like yeah but yeah so when his teeth
are all bloody I freaking laugh at that every time.
The part also the same part like kind of the same scene but like right before that is when
like right after Artie and Shrek had gotten into like a big fight and then put some donkey
or tell him like hey you need to go like apologize make up to this kid like he's supposed to
be ruler blah blah blah blah.
I like when Shrek's like trying to talk all hip and stuff to him and then he sees the
little like Merlin's place and starts running and he's just like somebody there's a giant
ugly ogre trying to relate to me.
Kids getting a nosebleed or getting high in the wag.
Oh yeah.
They should have felt like they should have focused more on the Artie Shrek deal rather
than what was going on in.
What was going in.
Yeah I don't know man.
Freaking the whole scene with Fiona and the other princesses like is like my favorite
scene of the whole movie because especially Snow White she is amazing.
Like our supreme brought him in his vigorous lecture just saying they.
Like I said the Shrek Artie stuff was killer.
It's the far far away stuff.
I think they could have done better.
Like that I think that's what I had the most issue with.
But I mean there was there was some funny shit there.
Like I remember when the queen almost knocks her ass out or like when she butts two walls
to the prison and she's like has this big old bruise on her head.
She's like I'm going to go lay down.
I forget how many princesses there are just because I haven't seen this one in quite a
while but I love one.
Snow White, Fiona, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Rapunzel.
That five.
Yes and that well OK then there's the queen.
OK because I can't she either says like four or three.
My favorite same here.
Yeah I'll agree with you on that.
Like the part where Snow White says like what like Fiona says like seriously you guys are
just going to step down.
She's like we expect we're just four.
I think she looks at the queen and she's just like I mean three young beautiful princesses
that are just waiting to be rescued.
Oh no no no no no no no.
It was the I forgot the ugly stepsister was there.
That's what it was.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Oh.
Freaking Snow White and Sleeping Beauty like carry all of those scenes because the freaking
phenomenal.
Yeah.
You know for the poopies.
Ew baby's poop.
Everybody poops beauty.
I love when they're in the in the sewer and she or Snow is just like bitching and complaining
and then she's just like you guys are just jealous you weren't votes or voted like most
fair or fairest in the land and she's like oh yeah and that rigged election and she's
just like our Rapunzel like throwing shade and then.
Ones was just are the snow.
It's just like oh yeah like Rapunzel Rapunzel let down your golden extensions like roasted.
Snow White might be my favorite character that whole movie.
There are okay there's some.
I'm not going to deny that.
All right.
You know what she got us there.
Oh I know like I forget to say that and then just like quote after quote after quote of
that movie.
Maybe spoken a little too soon on that.
Anyway it wasn't as good as the other three three.
So Sammy you are not going to like the score that Caleb gave it.
No I've got nothing better to do.
Oh shit.
Maybe now with some reflection I would give it a stream it.
You son of a bitch.
Oh man.
Like I said upon reflection I think I might accidentally talk myself up.
Because I think like you know now I'm not going to spoil it.
Nothing better after the first.
Oh I'll give you that.
Yeah yeah that's fair.
Yeah I'll absolutely give you that.
Well you're telling you're telling me when Prince Charming and the rest of the motley
crew get to far far away and they change the the sign to ye oldie Hooters.
You didn't find that funny.
I didn't necessarily find that very funny.
I found some of the civilians running into there afterward to be pretty funny.
Yeah all right the next one that I watched Shrek forever after.
I remember given this movie such a hard time.
I hate people for giving it such a hard time.
I will this is the Shrek movie that I will defend until the day I die.
Still stand by it being my favorite Shrek.
She's talking about the third.
All right I mean no that's fair.
Honestly it's a bad Shrek movie but Shrek movies are all good.
In some way shape or form.
You're not wrong.
Some of those dirty jokes had no right being a kid's movie.
Absolutely.
Like oh my gosh.
There was so much shit that I had to like double check and make sure that Iris didn't
understand because she started laughing at some of the dirty jokes and I was like wait
a minute.
Yeah.
She started laughing on my hey do you know what that means and she's just like no just
thought it was funny and I was like okay good.
We're okay.
Shrek was a good franchise.
Yeah.
If Shrek five ever does get made I hope it's I really hope it's good.
They say it's it's on the entire cast.
They need the entire cast.
Otherwise I want to say I heard that like they have like the entire cast is like signed
on like Shrek five is moving forward considering especially considering they teased it in the
last person Boots movie but like still we haven't heard anything about it.
No I hope that the the improved animation doesn't detract from it because I do feel
like the bad and like the maybe not as good animation did kind of contribute to Shrek
being like super.
I don't I don't know.
I don't know if it was the like Shrek has no fan.
If Shrek has no fans I'm dead.
Lucky for you that will never happen.
Now Shrek will forever have fans because my daughter is already a huge fan of it.
She loves Shrek now.
That's like the one Dreamworks franchise that I feel will never die.
I mean it's it's Dreamworks most popular character so Shrek will Shrek will never go away.
Otherwise it shouldn't Shrek should not continue at like if none of the original cast want
to come back.
I agree like no one can play Shrek except for Mike Myers.
No one can pay play Puss in Boots except for Antonio Banderas don't know and can play Donkey
besides Eddie Murphy and the list goes on.
Yep.
So fingers crossed that I want them to keep it going as long as they can.
But once the once the oh geez like I'll say some of the extras they those could be recast
some of them.
But Shrek Fiona Donkey and Puss all need the the oh geez.
Absolutely.
But I like getting back into talking to Shrek forever after I had a really good time with
this one like surprisingly good time and I think it's because they they improved what
I didn't like about the third which was the villain.
I thought Rumpelstiltskin being the villain in this one was fantastic.
And I know everyone said always says oh but he looked different than how he was in Shrek
the third.
Who gives a shit.
Who cares.
They wrote one of the greatest villains of the Shrek franchise and put him in this one.
So who gives a shit.
Rumpelstiltskin is such an asshole and he's so evil and conniving and I freaking love him
to death.
Yeah.
Same here dude.
Same here.
Yeah I thought the the whole the concept behind it like I understood the reasoning behind
this the plot like Shrek not feeling quite like the ogre he used to be anymore and becoming
like a joke like completely understandable like where he's coming from.
Oh yeah.
At least in terms of like Shrek obviously.
Yeah.
I I love that like that the time travel aspect big fan of like the time travel stuff and
just like how things are affected and whatnot.
So seeing these alternate universe versions of like Fiona and Donkey and and fat puss
was hilarious.
So good.
Like I loved all all of that.
It is really really fun.
And I'll even say I liked the addition of the the other ogres.
Yeah that was freaking awesome.
Like all of them were great.
Like I best seen out of this movie is when the Pied Piper is making them all dance and
the the chef is just like getting into it.
Oh hell yeah.
Cookies bringing the heat off the kitchen.
Oh my gosh.
I love it.
I I laugh forever at that.
And I like I started getting tic tocs and Instagram reels of people mimicking that dance
by just that that whole sequence.
And I'm like dude that dance goes hard.
It does.
It's so good.
I love it.
I feel like something that positive I feel not enough people talk about this movie is
like watching Shrek try to convince Fiona to fall back in love with him.
And finally at the end when he does and you know he's just you know he unfortunately does
I mean you know he does make the time the timer but as he's like fading away freaking
and it like almost makes it honestly it chokes me up every time when he says to her you know
what the best part of today was.
I got to fall in love with you all over again.
Oh my god.
It's like I'm like oh damn it's so good.
Dagger to the freaking heart.
My tick tock is filled with so much Shrek stuff and I'm not mad about it.
I'm not either.
My my tick tock is filled with Shrek stuff.
They keep trying to sneak in shark tail shit.
I'm like now get that out of here.
Like no no no.
Yeah.
I attempted to watch shark tail.
I couldn't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah I don't know what to say about shark tail.
It's definitely a dream works movie.
Kind of you know what I'm just going to if you guys watched our mini review of that I'm
going to say what I said in that move in that movie review.
Thank goodness Madagascar came out after shark tail because that movie almost sunk.
It works.
They're so bummed out at the score you guys gave shark tail.
Oh classic.
The shrimp is my favorite.
The shrimp is great.
The shrimp is the only well.
I can't I can't think of another redeeming factor of that.
That's a movie not even Jack Black could save.
Dude.
What about Ernie and Bernie?
What?
I can't.
Sammy are you hearing this guy?
He doesn't like Ernie and Bernie.
Wow.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Freaking Shrek forever after.
Like God like Rump Rump like all my favorite lines and maybe it's because he's my favorite
villain of this franchise come from Rumpelstiltskin like just he's such an asshole and I freaking
love it.
Yeah dude he's great.
He's so good as a villain.
That shit you guys talk about.
Well maybe the movie needed to try harder.
I'm sorry we didn't get a shark tail too.
I'm so sorry.
I'm not.
All right.
Yeah.
So Shrek forever after.
Love that one.
I think that one's worthy of a five dollar Tuesday.
Yeah.
You won't get any disagreements from me.
I feel when it comes to the Shrek movies like Shrek one full price Shrek two great with
you full price Shrek the third.
I'm sorry I'm going to like I know you were kind of like leaning towards more streaming.
Yeah I'm going to agree with that.
And then yeah sure forever after five dollar Tuesday.
The one and done.
Yeah you know fair enough.
Yeah shark tail didn't have a story outside of what they did.
It's kind of like over the hedge.
It's like what what else could they have done.
Please do not put.
No.
I'm talking I'm talking the one off story.
OK.
I was going to hedge is a million times better than shark tail.
Because yeah over the hedge is one of Dreamworks best.
Like I freaking love over the hedge so much and not enough people talk about that movie.
Yeah.
So anyway you're ranking Shrek.
Yeah.
So yeah Shrek Shrek Shrek Shrek Shrek Shrek and Shrek two full price all the way.
Shrek the third.
I'd probably more so be leaning towards streaming.
I don't think it's like it's not horrible.
It's not good.
It definitely was not as good as the first two outside of the.
Sure.
That was so dumb.
It was distracting.
You're good.
No we love the engagement.
That's why we decided to stream today.
Now we're actually like in a flow.
Yeah.
Yes.
The Shrek the third stream it and then yeah Shrek forever after definitely fight all Tuesday.
So yeah I would I would go back and correct my Shrek the third grade.
All right.
So he's giving it a stream it.
Is that a little better Sammy?
It's only one point better but I mean but hey at least you're saying like hey like definitely
go check it out.
Just you know watch it at home.
My dad is even on the witness it.
Yeah.
I know.
He's usually on within the first couple seconds.
Yeah.
Like that's insane how fast he jumps on.
Glad I can move the needle.
Don't get cocky.
It was one point.
Oh sure.
I think we have one more.
Yep we got me.
See I only got one movie that I've watched in the past couple of weeks and it's movie
I've already seen many many freaking times but it recently got added to Netflix again.
Fair enough.
So the Edge of 17 it just recently got added back to Netflix and considering it's one of
my honestly one of my favorite comedies of all time and you know I would actually say
this movie is in my top five favorite movies of all time.
I love this movie so much and yeah just like when they added to Netflix I decided to rewatch
it because usually like if I'm going through like a hard time for some reason I can like
relate to this movie a lot and especially you know like what's been going on recently
it's it's it's definitely helped me.
And so yeah it's just as good as I remember it.
Haley Steinfeld is phenomenal in this movie.
What the hell photos that looks like she's got.
I didn't choose the poster I promise this was the freak.
You know what it was funny is like this was the theatrical poster and then the freaking
like Blu Ray cover and like the regular poster that I feel that goes around is it's her sitting
across from Woody Harrelson's desk and yeah I feel that was probably the better direction
to go than this one because yeah now I'm not going to be able to forget that Sammy so thank
you constipated Nadine that's all I'm going to remember now.
So thank you for that.
It is a very unfortunate pose.
Yeah no that's fair.
But yeah Haley Steinfeld Woody Harrelson everyone in this freaking movie is phenomenal and just
I I can't say enough praise about this is one of the best coming of age movies to ever
come out.
It is it is just I just freaking phenomenal.
Love this movie.
So personally I would I would give The Edge of Seventeen a full price because I did see
it at full price and it was well worth it.
I forgot to ask Caleb what he thought before I gave it that.
So I'd give it that.
Yeah.
I remember the movie enough to know that it was very deserving of that.
Hell yeah.
Okay.
All right sweet.
So if you guys haven't seen The Edge of Seventeen like please go watch it on Netflix right now.
Freaking phenomenal.
Yeah it is.
But I think that's going to wrap it up for weekly watches.
So well Caleb getting a little ahead of ourselves.
I mean I know I try I wish I could switch it without it like whatever.
But jumping into our oh my god.
Let's jump into our headliner of the week.
That is the word.
All right.
Let's do it.
All right so before we jump into our headliner of this episode which is our breakdown of
Argyle.
Caleb do you want to let people know how we break down movies on this podcast.
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story writing acting character development effects
music costumes and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us a letter
grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade as well as a percentage that
doesn't matter quite as much despite what you may hear from outside sources.
Excuse me sorry.
So yeah that gives us an official ranking but the one we're most concerned about is
the letter grade.
So with that if you have not seen Argyle it has been out on I think Apple TV.
Pretty sure it's only streaming on that right now.
I mean you can buy it on like Voodoo and Van Dago and shit but like when it comes to streaming
platforms that's the only one that exclusively has it right now.
Yeah it's currently only available to stream on Apple TV but you can rent or purchase it
from Amazon or the new Van Dago at home.
Fancy ways Van Dago at home really knew I thought that was around for a while.
No it so Voodoo kind of got so it's not Voodoo anymore.
They turned it into Van Dago at home.
Oh shit okay.
Yeah like that's so it used to be like Voodoo like kind of like a byproduct of Van Dago
or just are something like that and then they're just like all right well we're just going
to fully encapsulate it and so now it's Van Dago at home.
All right interesting.
So if you've not seen Argyle like we said only available to watch on Apple TV right
now otherwise you'll have to wait till it comes on some other streaming service which
could be a while because Apple TV seems pretty stingy with their shit.
Yeah they really are like Jesus.
Yeah so we will be posting that spoiler warning now so if you listen beyond this point and
anything is spoiled for you sucks to suck.
Yeah.
So with that we'll be getting into our favorite segment that we like to call reading with
Rose.
All right Ellie Conway an introverted spy novelist has almost finished her fifth book
about Aubrey our Aubrey God damn it about Aubrey Argyle the M. M. No that's not how
you say that word Jonathan and I have a feeling I'm going to need to pull this one up.
Do you want to pull it up or do you want me to spell it out for you.
I'll pull it up.
Okay.
Eponymous.
Okay sure.
Eponymous character of the Argyle series but suffers from writer's block after feedback
from her mother Ruth on a train journey to visit Ruth and her father Barry.
Ellie is saved from an ambush by an actual spy Aidan Wild who explains to her that a
devious organization known as the division has targeted her because her novel seemingly
predict their future.
Aidan travels with Ellie to England hoping that her next chapter will reveal how to stop
the division.
In London the duo searches for a master key that would help expose the division referenced
in Ellie's novels suspecting Aidan wants to kill her too.
Ellie calls her parents for help as they arrive Aidan reveals that her parents are operatives
of the division forcing him and Ellie to fend off before fleeing escaping before fleeing
sorry escaping to France Aidan and former CIA deputy director Alfie Solomon reveal that
our guy is not entirely fictional.
Ellie is in fact that agent who is Rachel Kyle Rachel Kyle.
It was just Kyle right.
Yeah.
Okay.
Our guy seemingly having been derived from our high our Kyle who was captured and brainwashed
by the division five years earlier and made to believe that Dr. Margaret Vogler Ruth and
director Ritter Barry were her parents.
Ellie put her suppressed memories in modified form into her novels Aidan's resurfaces is
one of her characters Wyatt while while Alfie reappears as her cat with the latest our God
novel Rachel was about to reveal the whereabouts of the master key to the world.
Aidan and Rachel travel to the Arabian Peninsula where they retrieve the master key but are
cornered by the division who returned them to their base.
Ritter reveals that Rachel was an act was in actuality a double agent and one of their
most loyal assets for the division after which she offers to interrogate and subsequently
shoots Aidan.
She also locates Alfie for them but reveals that she is in fact sent him the master key
betraying the division.
Aidan revealed to have been shot in nonlethal areas reunites with Rachel and the two fight
their way through the facility.
Ritter interrupts the transmission of the master key to Alfie but is fatally shot after
Rachel's cat scratches out his eyes.
Aidan and Rachel escape to outside the division facility revealed to be a cargo ship to use
the satellite connection to send the master key.
Ruth uses a mental trigger code to force her daughter to attack Aidan until Ruth is killed
by Kira a former CIA agent.
Kira had once been Rachel and Aidan's sister in arms and was thought dead during a mission
with Rachel.
These events along with Kira as an identical fictional version of herself had also appeared
in Aidan's novels.
Alfie finally receives the master key transmission and Aidan detonates the division's oil tanker
headquarters.
Resuming her novelist persona Rachel publishes her final Argonne novel where at a reading
the real Argyle reveals himself much to her shock and confusion.
In a mid credit scene taking place 20 years earlier a young Argyle is revealed to be a
Kingsman agent with the first novel being based on his life.
Oh man.
Yeah, me and Caleb had the same reaction at the end that freaking like end credit scene
that crossover like it went nowhere.
It was kind of dumb.
Director, you know, Matt Vaughn.
It sounds like a boring movie.
Okay, first off, it's not.
It really is actually it is a lot of fun.
But yeah, just freaking out end credit scene.
It's literally just there because Matt Vaughn also directed the Kingsman movies.
So he he just threw that in there so he could have a connection and we all know that's not
going to it's not going to go anywhere.
So probably not.
I I will be pleasantly surprised if it does.
I don't know for how bad Argyle did at the at the cinema.
I don't see it going anywhere.
Yeah.
I think Apple's issue is that they need to release their shit to streaming for a short
period of time before going exclusively to Apple TV.
Yeah, because I bet it this I bet this would have found its stride on like Netflix.
Oh, yeah.
100 percent.
Yeah, since you know, a lot.
I mean, I had like I think like the one month free trial of Apple TV and then I never went
back to it.
I don't think a lot of people have Apple TV.
It's just not on a lot of people's radars when it comes to subscriptions.
Yeah, like I hear they have quality movies, but it's just like.
No one's heard of them.
Or no one's heard of the movies that they have.
So it's yeah, exactly.
Kind of up in the air.
Yeah.
This synopsis does not do the movie very much justice.
It's it's one.
I'm not a huge fan of spy movies, but neither am I.
This one had so many like really solid twists and turns that seriously.
Yeah, that it keeps the story interesting.
Well, I remember looking over a cable multiple times while watching this movie and I just
had the like what the fuck, dude, like what else are they going to freaking what other
freaking curve balls are going to are they going to throw at us?
Because this is like freaking honestly was hurting my brain for how many freaking curve
balls were thrown at us.
But like like in a good way, like I really liked the twist in this movie, the twists
and twists in this movie.
And I feel that definitely added to like honestly how much fun this movie was.
Yeah, and I actually had the big reveal art.
Actually, I wouldn't even say it was like the big reveal.
I just had the reveal that Ellie Conway was actually a spy.
I just that's the only freaking spoiler that I had to this movie.
So going into it, I knew that Ellie was like a spy assumed that she had some sort of like
amnesia or whatever.
So but that was the only spoiler and I still had shit that was like, you know what?
One point I just I just remember thinking like what in the winter soldier shit is this?
The ending when Catherine O'Hara's character just says the freaking phrase that gets shit.
I already forgot her name.
Well, it wasn't it wasn't the phrase.
It was the song.
Oh, yeah, it was a song.
That causes Ellie, right?
Yeah.
Or Rachel.
I'm sorry, Rachel.
I forget works.
Yeah.
To turn into like a mindless robot like the Winter Soldier and start trying to kill Aiden.
I'm like, that's all I could think of.
I'm like, what in the winter soldier shit is this?
Dude, if that's the point that you had issues, we watched two very completely different movies
that it's not really an issue.
It's just like, I don't know that that like part just like stuck out to like it kind of
bug.
It did kind of bug me a little bit.
Like, I don't know.
They're they just threw so many curveballs as to like, oh, like, and I know she's a double
agent, but they just threw so many curveballs with Rachel being like, oh, you know, is she
working with Aiden or is she not?
Is she is she the and so like when we finally get to that point, I'm like, OK, I truly believe
that it's just her and Aiden working together like nothing else is going to happen.
Like, they are truly just they are one, they are partners and then freaking they had to
throw that shit in.
I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?
Fair enough.
But OK, so getting into the story here, I I love the structure of Matthew Vaughn's movies.
I felt like he did a really good job at keeping those twists and turns very well hidden.
I like especially kind of going in, you kind of start to assume like, OK, yeah, she's just
a secret agent.
That's what this whole thing is.
Like she's not predicting the future or anything like this is like that.
I feel like that was a pretty easy one to kind of come across.
Though the first one where she overhears Aiden talking to Alfie and being like, Ellie Conway
needs a bullet to her head.
I was like, yo, what?
Like I thought she like I just assumed like I kind of had a feeling that Ellie Conway
wasn't necessarily Ellie Conway, but I also think that Aiden knew that.
And so when he was saying that shit, I was like, yo, what?
And so, yeah, like Ellie rightfully freaks the hell out.
It goes and bounces.
Looking back, I don't know how well the actually I think it might have been done fairly well.
The reveal with Brian Cranston's character being like her father, like that was trippy.
Yeah, for getting you get that one reveal and then like literally not even a minute
later you find out that her real mom isn't her mom.
Like double banger on my.
I felt so dumb because I was just like, oh my gosh, do you think her mom?
Because she pulled it off so well because she was calling him away from the book.
Yeah, I'm freaking like, yeah, when Catherine O'Hara just like starts putting the gun to
Bryce Dallas Howard's head, I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?
That tripped me up so bad because I like like I said, I felt so dumb because I was like,
oh shit, like because like I think what threw me off is is her is Catherine O'Hara's character
like kind of calling towards Brian Cranston and being like, yo, while he was looking at
the book.
I think that's what I think that threw me off.
Like if she would have just ignored what he was doing, I think I probably would have been
able to catch that pretty quick.
But the fact that she called his attention away from the book.
Got me and I was like, oh shit, she doesn't know.
And then it yeah.
And then she pulls the gun on Ellie and I'm just like, god damn it.
I do like that that her character or so Ellie and Rachel kind of became one person in the
end where she still felt like iffy about some stuff, like she still had her like badass
secret spy side, but she was still like Ellie.
Yeah, or still felt like Ellie.
And I loved that because I thought they were going to abandon the cat altogether.
Like when she's just like, yeah, I don't give a shit about that cat.
I was like, yeah, I know.
I know you wouldn't be.
Oh, dude, but there was some crap.
I think I might have just like figured or figured a plot hole.
Oh, no.
All right.
I got it.
Okay.
If if Cranston's character at like the director truly believed that Rachel Kyle was a double
agent, why would he have felt the need to like control her mind like that?
Because he totally bought it.
Like he totally bought that she was like a double agent, like letting her like have access
to their mainframe and everything and all of that, like that secret information.
Like he let he let her have all of that, that that clearance to effectively screw up their
operation and he was just like, oh, cool.
And then the second that she turned and she just like forgot like one step or that she
needed a certain like a particular I think it was his his retinal scan.
Like she forgot that she needed that.
So she wasn't able to like fully accomplish what she needed to.
So she kind of gave away that she was a triple agent, I guess.
And so, yeah, it's like, I feel like that was a bit of a plothole.
Because if you believe that she was an agent, you could have just you could have very well
just gone to her and asked for this information.
You didn't need to do this whole mind wipe thing and just pray that she releases this
book.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
So I think that there's a big plot point there, a plot hole there.
The rest of it, though, I did like like once she kind of started to accept her new identity,
I thought that was that was pretty interesting.
The whole tie into like Henry Cavill's Argyle was was pretty cool.
Yeah, I like the story I felt was well structured and the I guess that's more of an enacting
thing.
I'm just going to talk about the like the chemistry between what's her face, Bryce Ellis
Howard and Sam Rockwell.
Which the other chemistry was great.
Yeah, which we will be addressing in an acting.
But I don't know, I enjoyed the story overall.
Like I felt there was enough twists and turns like, yeah, it was definitely overcomplicated
as all hell.
But it was it was ultimately fun.
And I think that's what a good spy movie needs to be.
And that like the reason I enjoyed this is the same reason I enjoy the Kingsman movies.
That's fair.
I still I still have not seen the Kingsman.
The first one, the prequel.
I really will.
Well, actually, wait, no, we talked about this.
Yeah, I haven't seen the Kingsman.
The Golden Circle and then the Kingsman.
Is it just the Kingsman?
The Kingsman.
Yeah.
Okay.
Need to watch those.
Golden Circle is just I'd say is pretty equivalent to Argyle.
The Kingsman is my favorite of the three.
But I think with like that major plot hole, it does bring my score down a bit.
I think originally before I kind of like talked myself into that, I was sitting around 86,
87.
I think the plot hole is big enough where I'm like, yeah, like I could.
I'm down to like an 82.
Like I'm still in the 80s, just a little bit further down than I originally assumed I was
going to be.
All right.
I think I'm just going to be two points lower than you at an 80.
It's the story still definitely deserves to be in the 80 range, but like it's like right
there on the tail end of why are you being stupid?
What the fuck?
On the tail end of almost hitting the 70s for me.
And for some reason, my numbers don't want to work.
Refresh the page.
He was doing that to me earlier too.
Okay.
Thank you.
There we go.
Thank you.
All right.
So yeah, it gets an 80 for me.
Fair enough.
All right.
Moving on over to writing.
I'd say this is pretty, I would, I would put this on the higher end.
I felt like even though, even though like this is before I, I thought of that plot hole
with the story, I was sitting, I was thinking I was going to give the story and writing
about the same.
So I was, I'm given the writing at 87 spoiler alert, not really spoiler.
I mean, we're on writing, whatever.
Anyway, I felt like all of the dialogue was really well used.
It was kind of like fast and quick witted.
And I think it needed to be a spread, like what's the type of character that, that they
had with, with Sam Rockwell's character kind of being like that fast talking guy.
Yeah, that's true.
But yeah, other than that, I can't think of any other dialogue.
Like everyone, there was no wasted dialogue.
I'll say.
And I feel that Matthew or Matt Vaughn, whatever.
I feel that even though I haven't seen, you know, the other two Kingsman movies, just
remembering how good the writing was in the first one.
I'm so ready to be the biggest hater of what you guys give this.
Damn Riley.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
We actually, yeah.
First off, put some respect on his name.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Yeah.
Second, this movie wasn't as bad as I was led to believe.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
But yeah, just remembering how good the writing was in that first Kingsman movie.
It definitely transitioned into this one.
Matthew Vaughn is really, really, I mean, I don't know if he wrote it, but if I'm sure
he had to say, and I feel the, yeah, the, the writing definitely showed because he,
he not only knows how to write good characters, but he also knows how to write very good conversations
between said characters.
Yeah.
So what are you giving writing?
I am not as high as you.
I am sorry.
I'm writing.
I'm just going to go a couple above my story in 84.
Submitting my application to be on the episode for Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
Dude, hell yes.
Yes.
Absolutely.
So I know this is details that we could iron out later.
We're doing that in a couple weeks because I want to go through and rewatch the first
three.
So once we do that, then I'm going to go watch Kingdom and then we'll be good to go.
So a couple more weeks, a couple more weeks, and then we'll, we'll do that.
And he said, yeah, that's right.
It's Mr. Plunge.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
I'm stingy and anytime someone calls me anything other than Rose, I'm going to correct them
B or if they say Jonathan, like it's Rose.
So it's not John, it's Jonathan.
I don't know if anyone does call you Jonathan.
That's true.
See, even though like he wanted to point something out when Caleb says it's fricking weird.
Yeah, it feels icky when he says Jonathan.
Yeah.
It feels gross on my tongue.
Yeah.
Okay.
Damn dude.
You don't go that far.
Shit.
Okay.
Um, oh shit.
All right.
Moving on over to acting.
I just watched all them all this weekend for the first time ever.
They're the best.
Damn right.
They are.
It's one of the greatest trilogies ever made.
Watching the ones from the sixties now.
I did, I want to do that too.
I can't.
I've been spoiled from the mocap, the mocap apes.
I just can't bring myself to do it.
It's a it's Rose.
It damn right it is.
Oh shit.
All right.
Going through this cast, we got Bryce Dallas Howard who plays Ellie Conway.
We got Sam Rockwell who plays Aiden Wilde.
Brian Cranston who plays director Ritter.
Catherine O'Hara who plays Ruth.
Samuel L Jackson who plays Alfie.
Henry Cavill who plays Argyle.
John Cena who plays Wyatt.
And then Ariana DeBose who played Kiara.
All right.
So what's your top three looking like?
Um, number one, I definitely got to go to Sam Rockwell.
Like freaking he was phenomenal in this movie.
He was so much fun to watch.
Shit dude.
Same here.
Uh, number two, I'd probably give number two to Bryce Dallas Howard.
She was great in this movie.
Um, I thought that she hit all of her comedic bits.
She was, uh, you know, serious when she needed to be serious.
I thought, I thought she did a really good job.
Um, numbers.
She's a great comedic actress.
She is and she doesn't get enough love for that.
Um, I feel she doesn't get enough love in general.
She's a really good actress.
Yeah.
Um, number three, I don't know, just because I loved watching her performance.
I'd probably give it to Catherine O'Hara.
Damn it, dude.
Same top three.
Really?
Yeah.
Top three.
I love it.
Uh, yeah.
It was so much fun to watch like freaking like going, watching her from, uh, going from
like a, like, you know, like a worried mother that, you know, wanted that cared about her
daughter so much.
And then like finding out it was all fake and you know, yeah, she's actually freaking
working with Bryan Cranston and just, yeah, it was freaking great throughout.
I loved it.
Shit dude.
That is hilarious.
Yeah, I, it was a really close call between her and Bryan Cranston.
Oh yeah.
I think her, her character shift, um, I think it was so, I think it was just the fact that
she was able to sell it so well that it tricked me into thinking that she wasn't involved.
That like, I, yeah, I tripped me up and I freaking loved her for it.
So yeah, I totally agree in agreeance with you on that one, but yeah, some were Sam Rockwell
knocked out of the park and Bryce Dallas Howard, unfortunately was just a tad bit outshined,
but I still think that she pulled off her character very well.
I feel, um, two that were definitely a lot of fun to watch, even though they're in very
few scenes, um, especially when they were together, uh, Henry Cavill and John Cena really
enjoyed all the scenes that they were together in.
Yeah.
I'll get, I'll give you that for sure.
Um, all right.
Where are you sitting with your acting grade?
I think for acting, just cause I, I enjoyed everybody.
I think everybody did a really good job.
Um, so I think I'll be just like a little, I'll be a couple notches ahead of my writing.
So I'll be at an 86.
Damn, I'm actually just a slightly below you sitting at an 85.
I thought you'd be higher.
I thought I would too.
Listen, I, I going into this and honestly, I might dock it a little bit because 85 is
just does like, I might go down to 84 and this has nothing to do with like me not enjoying
everyone's performances.
It's just, I know what these people are capable of.
I know that they're capable of better.
That's fair.
I know that they kind of played this for the cheese.
Yeah.
Like they, they leaned into it and it worked, but it also like slightly affects what I feel
their acting capability is.
So that's why I'm, I'm on the lower end.
Fair enough.
All right.
Next up we got character development, which there was a significant amount of development
with with Ellie's character.
Yes.
So I fortunately did not have any of this movie spoiled for me.
So I had no idea that it turns out that Ellie is a, is a secret agent.
She's a double agent.
It turns out, you know, she had her mind wiped, you know, all that fun stuff.
And so watching that play out was actually really, really cool.
And seeing her, you know, start out as a book writer that, that doesn't know exactly how
to finish the book that she's been working on to literally going on this wild adventure
and finding out that she was a, that she was a spy on her previous life.
Basically it was honestly really cool watching.
And I had a really good, really good time watching.
And I also really liked throughout, even like after she finds out who she really was, she
she's still like, Hey, you know, like you say that I'm this person and, you know, I'm
able to do this.
I'm able to do this, but I'm still in the mindset of, of Ellie Conway.
And so I'm still, you know, scared to death about this shit.
I'm not good, you know, talking with people.
I can't fake someone out.
Just, you know, watching her throughout, you know, still deal with that.
And then as, as the rest of the movie went on her getting better about coming to truly
realizing who, how good she was as Rachel.
I thought it was actually, I thought it was really cool.
Yeah.
And it was like seeing her combine those personalities and taking the parts from Ellie that were
good.
And then the parts of Rachel that were good, like she, she almost like eliminated the flaws
that Rachel might've had and just turn them into like, she like picking shows more or
less, which I thought was really good in terms of like a character arc.
Yeah.
There wasn't a whole lot of growth with this because obviously it's an action spy movie,
but I feel like the, the growth that there was, was really well done.
Like this is one I think I'd be sitting at like an 85 with.
Dude, I was thinking the same thing.
Yeah.
Like I loved what they, what they did with her character.
Like Ellie was just so charming and same thing with like her relationship with, with Aiden
and all that.
And I thought they pulled all of that off really well.
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up.
And this is where the movie is going to catch a little bit of shit.
Yeah.
The effects.
Now I got to give this movie credit because some of the shit that they do was fricking
bonkers and I loved every minute of it.
It was cool as hell.
And because of that, there are some instances that as characters are moving, they definitely
do look plastic.
Yes.
And there, there are many that we can point out.
Like, you know, I'm, you know, really quickly, I'm just going to start from the beginning.
When we're first introduced to the character of Henry Cavill's Argyle, when he's chasing
that one spy through the street and he, you know, he's like fricking like doing literally
doing skateboard moves on with a fricking dune bug or whatever the hell it is.
Yeah.
With a Jeep.
Thank you.
Just literally he's grinding down a rail with a Jeep.
There are, there are many instances that like the way that it's jerking around and the way
that like Henry Cavill looks, I'm like, yeah, that it looks plastic.
Like, and, and it sucks.
Like, you know, this movie had like, I think like a $200 million budget.
So I wish I could say like, oh, you know, that should have been, yeah, it was $200 million
budget.
And I wish I could say what that should have been fixed.
But I'm sure when for how fast these scenes are moving, I'm sure it's really hard to sometimes
catch that shit.
And so I'm going to be, I'll be a little lenient, but not that much because like the, not only
that there's like a scene towards the end with Bryce Dallas Howard's character, where
she is literally skating through a fricking just a pool of oil.
And there are instances when she's fricking like kicking off of these soldiers that, yeah,
she's looking pretty plastic.
And even there, even parts of the frig, I don't, I don't know if you've felt this way,
but there are instances where we have her cat that I could tell the cat was not there,
that was a CGI cat 100%.
Dude, they had so many scenes where they put in a CGI cat.
Like is it, I don't know, like what about the scene where it was the fricking, it was
like a picture or like it looked like flat, like, but they were like panning out and it
was like zooming in on the cat in the backpack, but it looked flat.
Oh yeah.
That looks so bad.
Oh God.
Oh man.
I laughed for a really good while with that one.
I mean, there were some scenes that looked okay.
Like when the scene, like when they're basically the hallway fight, when they're throwing the
color, like the multicolored grenades and everything and, and all that good stuff.
Like I thought that looked fantastic.
It was so absurd, but it was fun.
Like I didn't see any, if at all, I'm sure there might've been a couple of effects that
might've missed the mark, but I didn't notice them.
Yeah.
They hit them very well.
Yeah.
With that scene in particular, like, yeah, didn't notice any, the stunt work was great
in this, like felt very,
it was over the top for sure.
Like definitely like superhuman, but I felt it worked for the movie.
And I it's Matthew Vaughn knows how to do action is what it comes down to.
So he pulled, like he played those scenes off so well.
Like I had close to no issues with the stunt work.
My only issue, which is surprising for someone that can do action that well in terms of stunt
work.
Why was his dance scene, at least the one with Henry Cavill and Dua Lipa, why was that
so lackluster?
Yeah, seriously.
Yeah, that was, that was bullshit.
Yeah.
It kind of sucked.
I was like, dude, like, and they like, unfortunately Dua Lipa couldn't fricking save that scene
for, for anything.
And I'm like, he gave it an honest effort.
I'll give you that.
Yeah, true that.
But like this, I mean, they kind of did a similar dance scene with Sam Rockwell and
Bryce Dallas Howard, like during that hallway fight.
That looked awesome.
Like, why did the fight reflect that or the dance and the beginning of the movie reflect
this?
That was great.
Like it sucks, like I've, we know Henry Cavill can do action.
He does basically nothing but action.
Yeah.
I can't, I refuse to believe that it's hard for this man to pick up dance.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Like that's like, that's something I remember Chris Evans stating.
He's like, fight scenes are basically just a little bit more complicated dance scenes.
And I'm like, all right, cool.
So if you can fight, you can dance.
That's what I'm hearing.
Makes sense to me.
Yeah.
So I was a little bummed out by that, but luckily they picked it up with like the good
action later on.
Yeah.
So very much appreciated that.
So I got to say, I liked when they were on the train or when Ellie and Aiden were on
the train and it was bouncing back and forth between what Aiden was doing and what agent
Argyle was doing.
That was awesome.
That was sick.
Like that looks so good.
And I loved how they were handling it different.
Like anytime he was being a badass, it was freaking agent Argyle.
And then anytime he was getting his ass handed to him, it was Aiden.
That was freaking hilarious.
I thought those transitions were so funny, but the effects were hard for me to like to
score.
This is one.
It's like when Like when the genres are reorganized or like whenimas are formed, sometimes fourth
Nothing is messed up.
you
the art like the transition between what our guile was wearing and then what
Rachel was wearing like
was interesting
and then you get to see like that same deal with with Aiden and
you
I don't want to sound like a gross
how low cut
you
shit
funny enough I am actually lower than you dude what the fuck you're surprising
me around every corner with this
haha
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half
you
but I also didn't I didn't know Matthew Vons I didn't know him by name so I
didn't quite recognize is that he worked on Kingsman but I am glad that I did I
I enjoyed the first Kingsman movie Golden Circle is alright and then the
Kingsman was awesome so I love that one so it's just
you
so that's why I'm giving it a 79 one point you mother I know it's one point
it is one freaking point
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