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What is up bros, I'm Jonathan.

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And I'm Caleb.

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And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews

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out there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the all bros.

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This week on the podcast, we got some we got a couple movies to talk about with weekly

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watches.

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And then after that, we will jump right into our headliner of the evening, which would

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be our breakdown of the iron claw.

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Hell yes.

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So, Caleb, what do you say we get started?

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I say let's do it.

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Alright, so excuse me, getting right into it with weekly watches.

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So this week, I watched two movies that I've already seen before, but I wanted to revisit.

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So the first one up is Child's Play, the 2019 remake.

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And I'm just going to say it.

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This movie did Megan before Megan was Megan.

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And I think it did it better.

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It did do it better, dude.

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It did it so well.

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Megan was fun in its own way.

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But I think this did the whole AI thing a little bit better.

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Yes.

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And I feel it would have benefited.

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It sucks that it had to be called Child's Play.

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You know, makes sense with, you know, doing Chucky, everything like that.

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But I feel if it didn't have to be Child's Play, if they could have just done it to where

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with another different killer doll, I feel that a lot of people would have been more

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attracted to it.

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They wouldn't have gotten as much hate as it has gotten.

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Because I feel when people actually finally check it out, they're just like, you know

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what?

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That actually wasn't bad.

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That's one of the better horror remakes that I've seen, dude.

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Throw in the the Megan system with this story.

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I like this would have been a fantastic movie.

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Like, merge the two, get rid of Chucky and just like make this the story for Megan.

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Like that's a winning movie right there.

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Yeah, I agree.

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No, because like the cast still holds up.

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I think that the only thing that I just have wrong sometimes is there are parts with the

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Chucky animatronic that I'm just like, like, I can tell that your budget was very low.

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But you know, I can totally look past that because this is one of this is probably my

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favorite horror remake that I've ever seen, because it doesn't it doesn't frickin go

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shot for shot like all the others.

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It actually tries to do something new, but still keep the same basic story and characters.

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And dude, frickin Mark Hamill is the voice of Chucky.

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I mean, could you get any better?

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Dude, right?

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Seriously, like for real.

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So with rating wise, I don't feel like don't this is great.

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I don't think you really need that.

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I don't think it requires to see it.

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So I would say I'd give it a stream it.

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Would you would you agree with that?

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Or would you give it higher?

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I would give it a stream it.

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Like dumb or like me and Caleb both enjoyed this movie the first time we watched it.

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We both saw it in theaters.

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And so like, you know, if you saw in theaters, great.

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That's awesome.

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But I feel it's it's one that it's fine if you experience it at home, but at least experience

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this because this is one of the best horror remakes and it deserves love.

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I'll definitely agree with you on that one.

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And the next up, just because I haven't seen this in years, which really shocked me.

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We watched dumb and dumber.

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Love this movie.

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One of the best comedies ever made, in my opinion, and I still laugh my ass off to this

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That's the sign of like dumb and dumber is one I feel is a timeless classic.

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It was a one off comedy and it didn't need a prequel and it didn't need a sequel.

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I love hearing Jeff Daniels like recount his time on dumb and dumber, or at least like

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his story about getting cast.

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It's I especially love what he does between every take like Jim Carrey is just like he

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easily flows into it.

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But have you seen what Jeff Daniels would do like to get into the character of Harry?

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He'd literally like shake his head and just make like a like a stupid face and he's like,

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okay, I'm Harry done.

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I love that he like so many people try to talk him out of doing this movie and he's

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like, no, like I need to show that I can do other stuff.

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And he can.

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And I thought for years, years that all he did was comedies.

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Because he's so good at it.

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He is so good, dude.

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If he feels so effortless.

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So when I found out that he's like, anytime I see him in serious stuff, I'm like, that's

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Because yeah, this was this movie was my first introduction to him.

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Great introduction though.

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So just because I feel like I would love to experience this with an audience, just to

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be able to laugh your ass off and just experience what a great comedy this is.

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So I would give this a five buck Tuesday.

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That's fair.

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This is one that you would absolutely have to have the right audience surrounding you.

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100%.

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So I think anyone willing to see this movie, like if they were to do one of those throwback

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cinemas or whatever, I think that this would be a perfect one to get like a really good

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group of people together.

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100% agree.

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But yeah, so that's that's all I got for weekly watch.

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So yeah, that was easy.

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I've even been watching a lot of movies lately.

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I've stuck with series two.

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I get it.

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I know I've I've freaking had so much going on that all I have time for are like little

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shows.

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I like even I've even attempted to start a movie during my lunch and I was like, I can't

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do it.

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I'm like, I have to watch a show during lunch because I like to be able to finish something.

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Like I won't even start new episodes.

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Like if like my lunch is an hour.

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If if I watch something that's only like 45 minutes, I won't start something new.

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Like okay.

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Yeah, like the like so what I'll do is I'll watch like an episode like the 45 minutes

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and for the remaining 15, I'll watch YouTube or whatever.

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Like because those videos I'm just like, whatever.

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Like I don't need to continue.

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But yeah, so I've been watching a bunch of other shows.

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I oh, I started watching Twisted Metal.

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Oh, Anthony McEwan.

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How's that?

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It's actually really good.

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It is so funny.

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Like it is a hell of a time.

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And I didn't know this.

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Thomas Hayden Church is in it.

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No shit.

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And I was like, dude, like this is a freaking crazy story.

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Like how like what's the deal with like I was trying to think of like what the deal was

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with the with the game.

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So I did some research on the game.

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The game is as as simple as you can freaking get.

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It is driving around with with cars and guns and shooting each other.

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Like that's all the game is.

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So they were able to create a story from scratch and impressive.

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It's a killer story.

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And then they were able to create.

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I want to say he's an original character with this character Sweet Tooth, who he.

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Someone is playing his like the the form.

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But Will Arnett does the voice.

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Oh, he's done.

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His voice is Joker level, like freaking.

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Oh, sure.

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It is so good.

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Like he has like a maniacal laugh and everything.

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Like it is Borderland Joker and I love it.

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Damn.

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And yes, it's freaking awesome.

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And the mask, bro, you look up the the sweet to art like the twisted metal sweet

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tooth mask.

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Like it is nuts, bro.

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Damn, that's terrifying.

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And what I love about the show is like they don't take his mask off.

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So he's in the mask, like at least so far, like I'm only five or six episodes in.

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He hasn't taken the mask off yet.

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I'm hoping he doesn't.

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But yeah, so he hasn't taken the mask off.

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And the the way that they shoot the scenes, his like you rarely, rarely ever see his eyes.

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OK, I like it is just like it's just darkness.

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So like it's so good.

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And it's the funniest shit, too, because like Anthony Mack.

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Anthony Mackie is hilarious in this.

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Stephanie Beatrice is freaking fantastic in this, too.

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And she it throws me off every time I hear her talking a normal voice

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in her normal voice, because it is so like.

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Peppy and cheery.

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So when she's talking, I'm just like, what the shit the hell are you?

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Yeah, because I'm so used to seeing her from like Brooklyn Nine Nine, where she's so monotone.

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And it's a it's a great time.

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It is a great time of a show.

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But so for everyone. Yeah.

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So I'm Peacock right now.

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Highly recommend.

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It is just kind of like brainless action, which is perfect for lunchtime.

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Yeah. There you go. Hell, yeah.

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Yeah. And the episodes are fairly short.

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I think they're around 45 minutes.

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OK, that's not bad. Yeah.

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I like a little bit longer form, but.

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Still really good.

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So, yeah, other than the list.

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Yeah, other than that, I haven't been watching.

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Very much like I've been watching the newest season of The Bad Batch.

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I watched the Netflix one piece, which I really liked the live action one,

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for those of you wondering, not the the anime, the anime.

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They have a they have a specific cut.

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Like someone went through and cut a lot of the fluff out of the show

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because there's like over a thousand episodes of it.

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And so somewhat. Yeah.

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So someone went in and said, all right, here's a main storyline.

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And they cut it down as much as they could.

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Like, again, cutting out the fluff.

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And they're like, all right, here you go.

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And so it's like this storyline you could watch.

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And it's like an hour and a half.

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They have some storylines that are longer than that.

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So it's like closer to like four hours.

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But they have it cut up into little like important pieces.

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So I'm like, I could do that.

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And I with how much I enjoyed the show, I am willing to give.

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Those cuts a shot, but other than that, I haven't been watching the whole hell of a lot.

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I mean, minus those two movies, all I've been trying to do is get through the rest

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of the office on my second rewatch.

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So that's what I'm doing.

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I'm on the frickin I'm at the end of season seven and I'm not ready to say goodbye to Michael Scott again.

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So that's going to be hard.

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Oh, man.

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Because as we all know, it kind of went a little downhill after that.

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Well, you would know I haven't watched the office all the way through.

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Oh, shit, my bad. I didn't mean to spoil it.

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No, I. I've never like I've watched bits and pieces of the office and I find it funny.

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I did try to start it from the first season.

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I made it halfway through and I was like, I can't.

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Yeah, you have to push through season one, dude.

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I know season one is a hard watch, but I promise you it gets better season two and beyond.

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I promise you, like, honestly, every rewatch, I'm going to be honest.

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I mean, this is on my second rewatch, but I completely skipped the first season.

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Do you really?

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Yeah, because I mean, I remember what happens, but it's just so hard to watch it.

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Like on your first watch, you kind of have to do like really get to know the characters.

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But like Michael Scott, Steve Carell's character, they do a complete 180 when it comes to him

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from season two and beyond.

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He is he is not he's completely different than what he is in season one.

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Because I haven't even done a first watch of this show.

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So it's like I've seen the bits and pieces that make me laugh.

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And then I'm like, OK, well, this one was from season one.

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And so there's like funny bits.

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It's just that's all they really are.

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It's just those bits.

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And I'm like, I can't.

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No, dude, I get it.

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So it's just kind of like put a sour taste in my mouth with those shows.

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I get that, dude.

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If you can like stomach season one, which I forget how many episodes season one is like

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it's worth it for season two and beyond.

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I promise you.

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I promise you, man.

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Well, I'll trust you once like once I get around to actually like needing a new show

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to watch like I'll I'll give it a chance.

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OK.

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But yeah.

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All right.

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Well, then what do you say we just jump into our headliner?

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I say let's do it.

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All right.

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Well, before we jump into this week's headliner, Caleb, do you want to let people know how

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we break down episode?

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Wow.

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Breakdown.

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That's breakdown movies on this podcast.

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I would love to.

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If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories

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that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

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music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.

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All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us

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a letter grade to compare this movies of a similar grade, as well as a percentage that

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ranks these movies.

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It's not quite as important, but it's still pretty fun to see where these will rank.

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So if you have not seen the iron claw, we are going to spoil the entire movie for you

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or roses specifically in our favorite segment that we like to call reading with Rose.

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So just know I'm the asshole in this scenario.

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Caleb is not.

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Yeah.

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So we're going to spoil this movie for you.

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So this is one.

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This one's interesting.

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Can't like it's like, can the history really be spoiled?

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That's fair.

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I mean, I didn't know anything about the Von Erics.

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So I didn't either.

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I was actually curious about that because you grew up with like WWF WWE, right?

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Yeah, but I don't think my dad ever introduced me to the Von Erics or at least from what

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I remember.

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Okay.

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I mean, they seemed like they were maybe like in the eighties.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But like, I figured your dad would introduce you to like the nineties, two thousands wrestlers,

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right?

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Yeah.

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I mean, you think that I remember would try to remember because, you know, those are like

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some of the only good memories I have with my dad.

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Sorry, was that too much?

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No, it's your dirty laundry.

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Hang it out if you want.

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True.

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Oh, shit.

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But not just like the only ones I remember are like the classics, you know, Stone Cold,

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Kane, The Undertaker, Rock, Brock Lesnar, Crispin Wa.

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How long has Brock Lesnar been a wrestler?

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I thought he was a freaking UFC fighter.

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Maybe he is.

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I don't know.

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That money just gotten.

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No, he's been doing it for a while.

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Yeah.

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No, I recognize him.

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Has he really?

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Yeah.

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When did he enter?

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I'm going to look that up too.

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So when did Brock Lesnar debut in WWE?

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There we go.

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The first one.

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2002.

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So 2002.

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When did he?

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Has he always been?

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Okay.

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So UFC, his career is 2008 to 2011.

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Okay.

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And so how long did he do WWE?

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Oh, so he did it.

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Oh, no, that was his return.

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WWE was from 2000 to 2004 or that was WWF.

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Okay.

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And then he took a break and then he came back to WWE 2012 to 2020.

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And so he did UFC in 2008 to 2011 and then came back to WWE.

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Okay.

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That's confusing.

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A little bit.

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Because I was like, I've had that instance where people know him as like the WWE wrestler

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and I'm like, no, Brock Lesnar, the UFC fighter.

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And they're like, oh, like, I guess for like, something's getting miscommunicated.

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So we have missed the thought that one was the other or whatever.

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But that's cool.

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Yeah.

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Complicated career.

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A little bit.

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Oh, but anyway.

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So yeah, yeah, we'll be posting the spoiler warning now.

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So if you decide to listen beyond this point and anything spoiled for you, sorry, not sorry.

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Exactly.

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So with that, Rose, you want to take away?

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Would love to.

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Can we, excuse me?

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Okay.

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I think I'm good.

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Okay.

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Today we will.

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You forgot to do your vocal exercises today.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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I just want to make sure that I'm not gonna have a cough attack during it.

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Okay.

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All right.

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In 1979, the world class championship wrestling company WCCW is owned by retired professional

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wrestler Fritz Von Erich, who once dreamed of winning the NWA world's heavyweight championship.

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Fritz has five sons with his wife Doris from oldest to youngest, Jack Jr., who died as

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a child, Kevin and David, who both wrestle in WCCW, Kerry, an aspiring discus thrower,

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and Mike, an aspiring musician.

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Kevin, the current Texas heavyweight champion, starts a relationship with a woman named Pam

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and tells her about the Von Erich curse that killed Jack Jr. as a child, supposedly brought

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on by Fritz changing his last name from Adkisson to his mother's, whose family had suffered

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constant tragedy.

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Kevin wins a non-title match against NWA.

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You know what?

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This was a problem.

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Whenever they said NWA, all I could think of was straight out of Compton.

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Fair enough.

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All right.

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Kevin wins a non-title match against NWA world heavyweight champion Harley Race by disqualification,

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putting himself in the lead to challenge for the title.

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However, Fritz is disappointed that Kevin took a long time to get up after a vertical

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suplex directly on concrete, but is delighted by David displaying a natural talent for showmanship

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while cutting a promo.

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The 1980 Summer Olympics boycott dashes Kerry's hopes of competition, and he moves back home

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where Fritz presses him to also become a wrestler.

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By 1983, Kevin, Kerry, and David defeat the Fabulous Freebirds to win the six-man tag

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team championship, and Fritz volunteers David over Kevin to fight during NWA world heavyweight

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champion Rick Flair.

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Kevin and Pam get married, and he reveals at the wedding to an ill David that he will

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soon be a father.

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The week before his match against Flair, David dies of enteritis while touring in Japan.

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Both Kevin and Kerry volunteer to fight Flair in his place, but Fritz lets a coin flip aside,

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resulting in Kerry being the one to face Flair, beating him and winning the world heavyweight

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championship.

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Although Fritz is overjoyed, a despondent Kerry goes out for a motorcycle ride and loses

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his right foot in an accident.

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Fearing the curse, Kevin has his newborn son Ross, legally surnamed Atkisson.

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Kevin begins training Mike, who badly injures his shoulder during a match and goes into

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a toxic shock-induced coma during surgery.

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Mike narrowly emerges from his coma with noticeable brain damage, but when Fritz presses him to

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get back in the ring, he takes his own life, and a grief-stricken Kevin starts to distance

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himself from Pam and Ross.

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Fearing the curse will affect them too.

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He nonetheless fights Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship, but is disqualified

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when he ignores the referee and grapples Flair with the signature Von Erich Iron Claw move

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for too long.

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Kerry returns to wrestling with a new prosthetic foot and works for the World Wrestling Federation,

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now dwarfing WCCW in popularity, where he wins the Intercontinental Championship at

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SummerSlam, while Fritz gives Kevin the task of running the WCCW as he focuses on life

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with Pam, Ross, and newest son Marshall.

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Kerry gives Fritz a new gun for Christmas, but becomes upset when he puts it away instead

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of firing it, later calling Kevin and telling him that the curse's constant presence in

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his declining career have made him consider suicide.

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He hangs up before Kevin can learn his location.

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After calling Fritz for help, but receiving none, Kevin arrives at Fritz's house the next

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morning just in time to hear Kerry commit suicide.

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Kevin arrives at Fritz's house the next morning just in time to hear Kerry commit suicide

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with the gun and nearly strangles Fritz to death in a fit of rage.

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Sitting with his brother's body, Kevin has a vision of his brothers in the afterlife.

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Kerry leaves behind the coin that is sited.

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He would face flair and reunites with Mike, now free to pursue his musical dreams.

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David wearing the world title belt he had been chasing in life, and Jack Jr., whom he

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meets for the first time since being a toddler.

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Sometime later, Kevin sells WCCW to Jerry Jaret, despite his father's protests.

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Doris gives up her housewife duties for her hobby of painting and divorcing Fritz, and

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Pam becomes pregnant again.

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Kevin weeps while watching his sons play football, telling them he misses having brothers.

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They promise to be brothers to him, and he gets up and plays with them.

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A textual epilogue reveals that the Vaughn-Erics were inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in

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2009, and that Kevin and Pam are still married and have bought a ranch in Hawaii where their

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large family lives to this day, including their four children and 13 grandchildren.

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Dude, this isn't going to come up in the episode at all, but the picture of him and his family,

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someone sent one of his grandchildren flying.

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Did you see that?

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Oh yeah, I did.

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Like damn.

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Dude, that was all I could think about when that picture came up.

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I was like, holy shit!

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Like when I realized how high that kid was.

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Anyway, for those of you that haven't seen it, yeah, there's like a picture of Kevin's

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family and they're all like, typically, like you see that, like they're all kind of like

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grouped together on the bottom of this picture.

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And then up in like the top right hand corner is one of his, I'm assuming his grandchildren,

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that is just up in the sky.

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This dude was freaking yeeted.

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Oh shit.

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And I think what threw me off is all of the people, the bottom look normal.

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No one looks like they had just tossed them up or anything.

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They're just like all standing there smiling.

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I'm like, holy shit.

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All right, who's catching this kid?

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Yeah.

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Like that seems like something you don't take your eyes off of.

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Yeah, right.

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Oh, but yeah, I was like, holy shit, dude.

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Just imagine you throw the kid up, you put your hands back by your side, they take the

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picture.

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You're like, shit, I blinked.

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Oh shit.

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It's like, dude, there's a story after this picture and I want it.

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Please tell me that's in the bonus features.

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That would be hilarious.

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But yeah, like I said, it won't come up anywhere else.

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I just found that so funny.

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No, that was hilarious.

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But yeah, dude, getting straight into it with the story.

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There were some things that you brought up in the synopsis that I didn't catch.

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Same here.

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Like I didn't catch that it was like a fantasy or like an imagination thing that he was imagining

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his brother, like Carrie, going to be with his other brothers.

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Yeah, yeah, I thought that was just us seeing it from Carrie's perspective.

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I did too.

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And so yeah, that wasn't very clear.

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But I mean, it's a beautiful scene.

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Like that's what you're gonna be crying.

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Dude, it freaking had me well enough, but they should have made it seem like it was

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his like his daydream a bit better.

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Yeah, I can definitely agree with you there.

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And then what's her face there, their mom divorcing Fritz, that also was not very clear.

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Yeah, no, same here.

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Yeah, literally the last interaction you see between Doris and Fritz is her saying that

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she didn't make anything for dinner.

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He sits down, watches her paint.

496
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,600
And that's it.

497
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Yeah, I was like, okay, you're just going to imply divorce.

498
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:53,840
And then it was funny because like, I was watching the credits and it said 824.

499
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,240
I didn't catch it at the beginning.

500
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,240
It was 824.

501
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,400
And so I was like, ah, there we go.

502
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Yeah, because 824 makes some questionable editing decisions.

503
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,400
That's fair.

504
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,560
But damn, do they make some quality movies?

505
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,560
They do.

506
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,400
I have yet to see an 824 that I haven't liked.

507
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:25,440
I'm going to Google 824 films real quick just to make sure that that sounds right.

508
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,480
You're not talking out of your ass.

509
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,480
Yeah.

510
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:36,720
Sure, I'll stand by that.

511
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,520
I haven't seen an 824 film I haven't liked, but I have seen a lot that are questionable.

512
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,560
All right, fair.

513
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Their new one Civil War looks really good.

514
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Yeah.

515
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:55,200
Like I said, I think they just need some help with their production in terms of editing,

516
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,880
just to like clarify some of the things that they're trying to do.

517
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,560
Yeah, I look at 824.

518
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,240
So like Blumhouse does all the cheap horror films.

519
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,720
I feel 824 does everything else when it comes to genres with cheap filmmaking.

520
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,720
I'll give you that.

521
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:23,520
I will definitely give you that.

522
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Yeah, but the story, I feel like the flow wasn't quite right with this one.

523
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Don't get me wrong, the story was fantastic.

524
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:45,680
The overarching story was fantastic, but I think the big issues that I had came down

525
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:52,440
to the editing, and it just felt like everything was happening so freaking quick.

526
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,440
That's right.

527
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,840
It just moved quite fast with storytelling.

528
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Another thing that I didn't notice, maybe you did, with Carrie, I feel it wasn't implied

529
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,040
at all about the Olympics being boycott.

530
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,640
Or am I losing my mind?

531
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:22,000
No, they did a little bit, because they show him running up to his coach and a bunch of

532
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,880
people running up to the coach, and then you see that one dude that just kind of throws

533
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,920
himself to the ground.

534
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:37,440
And then you see the family watching that presidential announcement, talking about the

535
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280
boycotting of the Olympics.

536
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,280
How did I miss that?

537
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
I have no idea.

538
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,880
So they did touch on it a little bit, and then when he got home, they were like, okay,

539
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800
that sucks, and then like, well, you need to be thinking about your future.

540
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,280
And I'm like, professional wrestling?

541
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,520
You know they have an Olympics in another four years, right?

542
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Start training now for that, not for wrestling, but whatever.

543
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:17,560
Yeah, but I don't think they settled on that or kind of let that sit very long.

544
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:25,920
They let too much stuff skate by, like when it came to Kerry's story, maybe even Mike's.

545
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,680
I think Mike's could have been expanded upon a little bit too.

546
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,080
He's the brother that definitely got the least amount of attention.

547
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Even with your synopsis, it explained it so much better that it was Fritz pushing him

548
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,520
back into wrestling that made him go off the deep end.

549
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,680
I thought it was that he couldn't play his music anymore, and that's what was the final

550
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680
straw for him.

551
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,760
Honestly I know this is based off a true story, but I feel that would have made more sense.

552
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,760
A little bit.

553
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:18,400
There were so many things that were just kind of left like, okay, wait, what?

554
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,920
That you need to explain to you after the fact.

555
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,800
That doesn't fly by me very well.

556
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,360
That's fair.

557
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:37,200
I will say though, each death of each brother was handled very, very well.

558
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:45,360
I think David's could have been a little bit better, maybe?

559
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,920
That's fair.

560
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,800
What sucks is Kerry's death unfortunately got spoiled for me, so I knew he committed

561
00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:04,160
suicide, but I had no idea that two of the other brothers had passed as well.

562
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:10,720
When they freaking say, oh, David passed while he was in Japan, I'm like, wait, what?

563
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:15,240
After the fact it makes sense without him throwing up blood and just how sick it's implied

564
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:19,080
that he is, it makes sense.

565
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,760
It's still really sad what these brothers go through, and the fact that two of them

566
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:33,920
were drawn to suicide of a way to just escape the weight and burden that their father had

567
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,800
placed on their shoulders freaking just kills you inside.

568
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Yeah.

569
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,800
That was a really tough pill to swallow.

570
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,440
It's heartbreaking, just heartbreaking.

571
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,140
In that aspect, I think the film did really well.

572
00:35:55,140 --> 00:35:58,520
The emotional hits, you feel those.

573
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,520
100%.

574
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,800
Yeah, like you're supposed to.

575
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:08,440
I think that was a combination of how well they put the story together.

576
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Like I said, there were issues.

577
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,720
I think editing issues, if you would have removed all of those, I would probably be

578
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:21,720
in the mid... I won't say mid.

579
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:30,720
I'd probably be in the low 90s with the story, but with the editing issues and just how hard

580
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:41,840
it was to track certain things, I'm probably going to end up putting this around 85.

581
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,760
That's fair.

582
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Yeah, I'm definitely going to agree with you because there were moments throughout that

583
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,160
I actually had to rewind a couple times just to make sure that I understood everything

584
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,760
that was said and I could understand where the story was going from there.

585
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Same here.

586
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:07,160
I actually had to turn on subtitles a few minutes into the movie because they talk with

587
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,000
a very thick accent.

588
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Yeah, I mean, honestly, nowadays, dude, I can't watch a movie without subtitles.

589
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Same here, unless it's one I've seen a lot and it's really loud.

590
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,360
It needs to be deafening loud before I'll even consider turning the subtitles off.

591
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,880
No, yeah, that's fair.

592
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:34,280
I think with all that, I think I'm just going to be a little higher than you at an 87.

593
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,280
Fair enough.

594
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,680
All right, moving on over to writing.

595
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,560
Okay, because the mom did it too.

596
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,320
The freaking... the way that the parents treated their children in this movie, like,

597
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:55,680
oh my God, when they would try to come to them with a problem that didn't involve wrestling,

598
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,440
they're just like, go talk to your brothers, I don't have time for this.

599
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,440
That's what they're here for.

600
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,440
I'm like, no, that's what you're supposed to be here for.

601
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,280
Yeah, I'm like, heaven forbid you talk to your children.

602
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,320
Yeah, heaven forbid you have to be an actual freaking parent.

603
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:20,120
I know, but they weren't betting a thousand on that end whatsoever.

604
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:28,320
I do understand to a certain extent feeling like you couldn't go to one parent versus

605
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,320
the other.

606
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:37,640
When Fritz was being really harsh on Mike and Kevin's trying to get him to back off,

607
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,760
that's something... yeah, you need someone that can talk to that person that way to go

608
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,360
and do that.

609
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,760
That's not a father-son chat.

610
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:55,760
That's a mother-wife chat or a husband-wife chat.

611
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,400
But I don't know.

612
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:12,400
I think that they were able to capture the essence of brotherhood fairly well on some

613
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,400
stuff.

614
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,800
Others, I'm like, no.

615
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,240
I'm trying to think of an instance... oh, okay.

616
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:28,880
When they were at the Mike's gig and Kevin makes that comment like, look at my beautiful

617
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,120
brothers, I'm like, that's a weird thing to say.

618
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,320
I've never once thought that.

619
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:44,160
I'm like, listen, I love my brothers to death, but in that instance, if I wanted to show

620
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:52,080
that I was just having a moment of bliss and just enjoying being a brother, maybe it's

621
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,920
just because I'm an asshole, but it doesn't come out, look at my beautiful brothers.

622
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,680
I'm just going to be like, look at this loser.

623
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,040
That is the most love that I feel I can show.

624
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,080
That's the best way for me to show my love to my brothers.

625
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,720
Just be like, look at this asshole.

626
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:21,800
I guess that showcases every brotherly love is different.

627
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:29,560
I will admit, yeah, that was a little too much, but to them, that's how they show their

628
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,840
love and appreciation for each other.

629
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:38,560
I can't really knock them for showcasing that way because dude, I'd be the same way with

630
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,560
you.

631
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:45,440
Say you were in your moment and I want to be like, yeah, look at this jackass.

632
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Dude, I get it.

633
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,040
Yeah, exactly.

634
00:40:53,040 --> 00:41:00,240
If I'm being nice to you, you know something serious is going on.

635
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,600
It's just like, hey, I know that you're having a hard time right now.

636
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:13,240
I'll have the difficult conversations and stuff with my brothers, but it's just trying

637
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:19,560
to think of the best way to describe this.

638
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:27,240
I would trust my brothers and you with my life, but if they ask me to like, hey, come

639
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:31,480
here, I'm going to be real suspicious.

640
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,400
You mean?

641
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Maybe not you, but if Coy and Bronson were to be like, hey, come here, why?

642
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,400
They know the deal.

643
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,960
They do the same thing to me.

644
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,440
If I suspiciously or just randomly was like, hey, come here, why?

645
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,440
Just come here.

646
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,000
Oh, you're going to hit me.

647
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:08,840
If I like again, I would trust them with my life.

648
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,200
It's like I just wouldn't trust them with the well-being of my arm.

649
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:20,960
Have you seen those videos where it's just like, hey, I'm really sick.

650
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,960
I need a kidney.

651
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,840
Oh my gosh, let's go get tested.

652
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,000
I'll absolutely give you my kidney.

653
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,600
And it's just like, hey, can I have an Oreo?

654
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:38,040
No, get your own.

655
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,000
That's what being a brother is like.

656
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,800
I think they were able to capture that essence really well other than them showing love for

657
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,840
each other.

658
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,080
That felt weird, but that might be a me problem.

659
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,640
I'm the same way.

660
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,480
I've never had blood brother, Caleb is the closest thing I've ever had to a brother.

661
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,880
I mean, he is my brother, but you know what I mean?

662
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:06,840
Honestly, even with my sister, I don't even know if I'd be that way with her.

663
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
I feel like I'd probably be the same.

664
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,800
I feel like, wow, look at this asshole too.

665
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,320
Because yeah, I'll call my sister that sometimes, but I mean it out of love.

666
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,240
Yeah, it always meant with love.

667
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:28,400
But yeah, I think they showed the encouragement really well.

668
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Like when Fritz announced that David was going to get his shot at the title and what he would

669
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:42,720
have to do with the regiment before they got to Japan and he came home with the title.

670
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:47,320
I liked that Kerry got up and was like, that's freaking awesome, man.

671
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,520
And giving him that encouragement.

672
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:57,160
And even though it killed Kevin, he was there when it was Kerry's turn.

673
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,040
And so I liked all of that.

674
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,600
I felt like that was very true to form and just the goofing off, the fighting between

675
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,960
them was really well done.

676
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:18,720
I'm thinking of the scene where Kerry's trying to get back in the ring and he's training

677
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:24,040
with Kevin and Kevin knocks his ass to the ground and he's just like, you want this,

678
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,040
get back up.

679
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,000
You want this, get back up.

680
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:34,440
He's just like, and just gives his arm and defeat and he's like, yeah, that's what I

681
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,440
thought.

682
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,880
Like that, a very brotherly thing to do.

683
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:49,280
I love, I think it's toward the beginning, but it's when it's Kevin, Mike and David on

684
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,240
the truck and Mike's just like, oh, you know, can we go get hamburgers?

685
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,640
Oh, mom's got a dinner at the house.

686
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,040
Well, you know, Kerry would take me for hamburgers.

687
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,840
That's how I freaking guilt trips.

688
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,720
I love that shit.

689
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:09,040
That is absolutely played very well.

690
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,120
Yeah.

691
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
That happens a lot.

692
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:19,280
I remember Bronson doing that to me a few times where I'd pick him up in the car and

693
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,080
we'd be driving and he's like, oh, hey, we should stop and get a drink.

694
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,960
And I'm like, like, no, like we need to go home.

695
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000
And he's like, oh, didn't realize you were lame.

696
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,480
I'm like, I'm not lame.

697
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,920
There we go and get a drink.

698
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,920
That's funny.

699
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Yeah, it was that and his infamous, uh, or just to get me to do stupid shit, like when

700
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,000
he'd say no balls.

701
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,560
I'd be like, oh, I got balls.

702
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,920
Oh, shit.

703
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,300
That was infamous.

704
00:45:58,300 --> 00:45:59,920
We would do that to each other.

705
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:06,720
I think we went and picked up a plywood for my dad at Lowe's and I laid it out on, on

706
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:07,720
top of the carts.

707
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:08,720
Yeah.

708
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:16,960
So we were pushing it and Bronson was helping me or whatever and he was just mouthing off

709
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:24,960
and I was like, I'm like, hey, why don't you get up on top of the sheet and act like you're

710
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,960
riding on a magic carpet?

711
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,120
And he's like, I'm not doing that.

712
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,360
Like, like people are going to like look and laugh at me and I'm like, all right, no balls.

713
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Oh, I got balls.

714
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:45,600
Then he jumped on and he was like laying down on it and like in poses like he went

715
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,600
all out on it.

716
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:52,240
Why is it that that's all it takes for guys to jump into a dare or some shit like, oh

717
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,920
yeah, you ain't got no balls.

718
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,880
You ain't got no none of that shit.

719
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,480
I was like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, well, no, I'm going to prove that shit.

720
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Sorry, I'm going to prove that shit to you.

721
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000
That's all it takes.

722
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:10,280
I know it just you like you get smacked in the pride and you're just like, yeah, well,

723
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,280
they call they call you like a bitch or a pussy.

724
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,880
Just that's what pushes the oh no, I ain't.

725
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,280
The hell's wrong with our species?

726
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,040
I know our egos are so fragile.

727
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,280
True, true that.

728
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:36,200
But I think like I said, I did.

729
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,960
I really like the encouragement that was shown between the brothers.

730
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,240
Like when it came to do it, like being at Mike's show and then just like cheering him on,

731
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:53,720
like I thought that was really, really fun to watch.

732
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:59,840
The rest of the dialogue, I felt fairly genuine, like really genuine.

733
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,920
But it did.

734
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:08,040
I think the only one I didn't really buy 100% was Fritz.

735
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,040
That's fair.

736
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,040
He was he was definitely the stereo.

737
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,760
I mean, I'm sure I'm sure this is how he was in real life.

738
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,680
He's definitely the stereotypical pushes his son to be better than him, but does it in

739
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,160
the wrong way.

740
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Yeah, very much so.

741
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:33,320
So I I liked it, but I think they went a little too exposition heavy in his dialogue.

742
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,720
And so it kind of like pulled me out of it a little bit.

743
00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:43,720
I was like, OK, like I feel like there's some things that he could have explained less.

744
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:52,080
Yeah, because he was I think they were trying to give a lot of exposition with his with

745
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,080
his dialogue.

746
00:48:53,080 --> 00:49:00,720
And so it felt very just like, OK, like I feel like your son who was raised to or been

747
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:07,320
in this wrestling thing for what I'm assuming is a significant amount of time would know

748
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,320
this.

749
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Yeah, it's just.

750
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,160
I think maybe you introduce Pam a little earlier.

751
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,800
I mean, obviously you kind of you follow the story or the real story a little bit, but

752
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:26,600
I think you could have just included Pam a little bit more made her the exposition person

753
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,600
like that gets all that.

754
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,240
I forget what I know there's a term for that, like the person that we follow that gets that

755
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:39,280
we know as much about the story as this person.

756
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,280
Oh, yeah.

757
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,760
I forget what that is, too.

758
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,320
But I think that should have been like that kind of talk should have been aimed more towards

759
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,640
Pam since she didn't quite know about the wrestling world.

760
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,920
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.

761
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Yeah.

762
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:07,040
But yeah, other than that, I mean, the dialogue felt very natural, fair, like really good.

763
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:14,600
I'm not too much higher than my story score, though.

764
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,200
So I might be like 86.

765
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,200
Yeah.

766
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:27,240
Yeah, I think I'm going to be the same as you just one point higher, so I'll be an 88.

767
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:28,240
All right.

768
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:32,280
Moving on over to acting.

769
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:40,320
Starting off, we have Zac Efron, who plays Kevin Von Erich, Jeremy Allen White, who played

770
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Carrie, Harrison Dickinson, who played David, Holt McAloney.

771
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,080
I think so.

772
00:50:51,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Holt McAloney, who played Fritz Von Erich, Stanley Simons, who plays Mike Von Erich, Mara

773
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:08,600
Tierney, who played Doris Von Erich, their mother, Lily James, who played Pam.

774
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:14,680
Oh, and that's it.

775
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:20,240
So yeah, I am this isn't a very difficult top three for me.

776
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:23,560
Wait, it is or isn't?

777
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Isn't.

778
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,640
Okay.

779
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,440
So I think number one, given it's Zac Efron.

780
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,360
He hailed this role.

781
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Yeah.

782
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,720
Like holy shit.

783
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:46,240
If people still think that he can't act, watch this movie and you will be on the Zac Efron

784
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:47,240
train.

785
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:48,240
Oh, yeah.

786
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:56,520
Like, I think he's a better dramatic actor than he is comedic.

787
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,560
I can agree with that.

788
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:06,280
Like his performance, I mean, he did okay in Ricky Stannicky, but he just he dominated

789
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,240
it with this film.

790
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:14,760
And I hope that this movie qualifies for an Oscar because I think that was it was borderline

791
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,120
Oscar worthy.

792
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,200
My number two, on the other hand.

793
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,360
Gosh, this one's a little tougher.

794
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:34,680
I think I might give this to Jeremy Allen White.

795
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,760
I really liked the character of Carrie.

796
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,640
It's understandable how he ended up where he was at.

797
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:52,000
I think like there was a lot of shit that was just kind of going on in his life that

798
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,080
would have been really difficult to deal with because not only is he dealing with the

799
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:06,440
loss of his brother, he has to live with taking the title from him and just like dealing with

800
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,480
that.

801
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:15,560
So it and then when he loses his leg and just is trying to come back up into the world,

802
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:22,640
seeing his struggle with the prosthetic foot was it was good.

803
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,880
It was really good.

804
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:31,160
I haven't seen him in pretty much anything that I haven't enjoyed his performance significantly.

805
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Did you ever watch the bear on Hulu?

806
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,840
No, unfortunately not.

807
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,240
I've seen him in shameless though.

808
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,520
He's phenomenal in that show.

809
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,200
I wanted to watch the bear.

810
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:52,080
Yeah, I would recommend that show very highly because he

811
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,320
his performance is killer.

812
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,840
It also gives you a decent chance to look at the guy who's going to be playing Ben Grimm.

813
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,960
He'll be in that show too.

814
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,960
Nice.

815
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,280
But yeah, he freaking kills in that show.

816
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Jamie Lee Curtis is in it a little bit too.

817
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Oh, hell yeah.

818
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Okay.

819
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,520
So if that sells a little bit more.

820
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Oh, 100% OG scream queen.

821
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,560
Of course.

822
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,280
Yeah, but I enjoyed his performance a lot.

823
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:30,960
My number three and this is where it's hard because I feel like it'd be a coin flip between

824
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,120
Jeremy Allen White and Lily James.

825
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:43,200
I don't know if she is the popular choice on here.

826
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:59,200
I loved how she handled the... first off, just how she met with Kevin.

827
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,800
The introduction and everything and he basically like spelling it out for him.

828
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,800
I'm like...

829
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,800
Dude, that was...

830
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,520
It was so awkward to watch, but I loved it.

831
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,720
It was, but in a super nice way.

832
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:13,720
Yeah.

833
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,760
And there were just so many scenes...

834
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,560
I freaking love her.

835
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,960
She's so... such a good actress.

836
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:33,120
And I think she sold that just the tough southern woman really well.

837
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:42,640
And I appreciated that performance, especially as things got more difficult in their life.

838
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:49,840
Like how she went and handled Doris when Doris was just having a breakdown about her dress.

839
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,840
And she's just like, yeah, they don't care.

840
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,040
And just all that good stuff.

841
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,800
I liked it a lot.

842
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:09,120
And I liked how the portrayal of how she reacted to Mike's death.

843
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:14,000
Because I think she had a freaking sweet spot for Mike.

844
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,840
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.

845
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,400
So she sold it so freaking well.

846
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,400
Like I loved her in this.

847
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,480
So what's your top three look like?

848
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,280
It's the exact same, dude.

849
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,280
Is it really?

850
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,280
Yeah.

851
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,960
Anything you want to add or?

852
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,960
No, dude.

853
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Cause you freaking nailed it with all three.

854
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,800
I got nothing else to say.

855
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,720
The entire cast is great.

856
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,120
Honestly, everyone plays their part well.

857
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,640
But these are definitely the three standouts.

858
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,720
Yeah.

859
00:56:52,720 --> 00:57:02,360
I would give an honorable mention to Holt McAloney though.

860
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:08,960
Just because of the scene where he was talking about how all of his sons are going to hold

861
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,840
the championship title.

862
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,920
That whole bit of dialogue was great.

863
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,920
Yeah, that's fair.

864
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,480
I will give an honorable mention as well.

865
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:38,840
As for the scene after Kevin wins from disqualification from, forget his name, but literally the monologue

866
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:45,840
that David says about him and his brothers wanting a rematch.

867
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,760
Just freaking so powerful.

868
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,920
And I freaking loved it.

869
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,880
And Harris just delivered it so perfectly.

870
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,960
So definitely got to give Harris Dickinson some props for his acting in this one.

871
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,040
Oh yeah.

872
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:06,840
Dude, I didn't really grow up on wrestling because my dad was very much of the mindset

873
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,320
like, oh, it's fake.

874
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:14,840
That makes it fun.

875
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:26,080
I think what I've struggled with movies and shows like this is when they cheer about winning.

876
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:32,960
It's just like you knew going in that you were going to win though.

877
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,560
Because then it will cut.

878
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,920
The next scene will be them in the locker room being like, dude, you sold that so well.

879
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,920
That was amazing.

880
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,920
I really believed you.

881
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:40,920
Yeah, I know.

882
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:46,920
I understand putting on the performance and everything, but it's just like you knew that

883
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,920
was going to happen.

884
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,760
You knew the outcome and what the hell.

885
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:58,360
So I think that's where I'm like, I don't know about the whole wrestling thing.

886
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:05,260
I think maybe it's just my dad coming out in me, but it's just like, I don't get it.

887
00:59:05,260 --> 00:59:11,920
You knew going in you were going to win and still you seem super pumped up about it.

888
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,920
Yeah.

889
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:23,040
It almost feels like the congratulations should come before the match.

890
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,640
You're not wrong.

891
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,240
It feels so weird.

892
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:33,240
I had the same issue with the show The Rock did about himself, like Young Rock.

893
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Oh yeah.

894
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,840
That felt very odd.

895
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,520
Anytime that they would discuss.

896
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:49,000
Every wrestling movie I feel has to deal with this whole, oh, it's fake thing.

897
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,480
Because The Rock dealt with it in his show.

898
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:59,360
I remember them talking about it being fake in fighting with family.

899
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,360
And then they dealt with this in this.

900
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:08,920
I feel like everyone has to deal with the, oh, this is fake shit.

901
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,560
But yeah, I did really like his performance.

902
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,920
He really sold it.

903
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,240
So what are you sitting with acting?

904
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:24,000
Just because I feel everyone is so strong.

905
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,520
Acting.

906
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:38,000
I think I'm going to be at a 93.

907
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:44,680
I don't know if I've quite cracked the 90s, but I am still fairly high.

908
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,040
I think I'm sitting around like 89.

909
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,520
All right.

910
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,240
All right.

911
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,800
Next up we got character development.

912
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:55,800
You know what I forgot to do?

913
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,920
I forgot to turn off the reading with Rosine.

914
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,920
Oh.

915
01:00:58,920 --> 01:00:59,920
Nope.

916
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:00,920
Oops.

917
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:09,840
I didn't even notice that.

918
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,280
This one's hard because I mean it is based off of real life.

919
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,280
Yeah.

920
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,160
Like, what did you think overall?

921
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,320
I think story overall is really not story.

922
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,320
I'm sorry.

923
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,000
The character already covered that Rose.

924
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,600
We know what you sorry.

925
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,600
I'm sorry.

926
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,080
Okay.

927
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,680
I think the character development is actually like super strong.

928
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,680
Yeah.

929
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,680
You got a point.

930
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,080
You're basing this off real life.

931
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,520
So it's kind of hard to be critical because you're just like, how do you be critical on

932
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,800
a true story?

933
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,040
But I feel the because I'm assuming we're doing this on Kevin.

934
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,040
Yeah.

935
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,360
He's got the definite focus of this film.

936
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,640
Okay.

937
01:01:52,640 --> 01:02:03,520
Seeing his arc throughout is like he has so many highs and lows and it's both very encouraging

938
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:09,600
but also very heartbreaking because you see him move up the ranks in wrestling but then

939
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,600
you also have to see him go through so much loss with his brothers.

940
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:26,680
Like seeing like I can't imagine losing not only one brother to a disease or just health

941
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,240
in general but two to suicide.

942
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:33,840
That is just freaking that's just a gut punch.

943
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,360
And I feel that it's handled very, very well.

944
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:43,280
And I would hope that this is exactly how it happened.

945
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:49,440
Just like, yeah, just seeing his journey throughout it's encouraging, it's heartbreaking.

946
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,120
And when you get to the ending with him not having any of his brothers left in that scene

947
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,400
with his kids, his sons, man, we'll be your brother's dad.

948
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,920
It's such a heartfelt scene.

949
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,240
And just I think it's a very good character arc on to say it throughout.

950
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,360
You get very good character development for Kevin.

951
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,520
Yeah.

952
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,160
That's a great arc.

953
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:25,520
And it's just it was heartbreaking watching everything Mike went through.

954
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:32,240
Like, because it's like I think Mike's was especially heartbreaking because you get like

955
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,760
you know that wrestling isn't his passion at all.

956
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:42,400
Like it was music, but it's he didn't really have a say in the matter.

957
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,640
And it was rough.

958
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:49,680
I don't think like any of them really had a say other than Kerry, but his was taken

959
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,680
away from him.

960
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:57,720
And so his father immediately threw him into what like the family business.

961
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:07,960
And I think what sucked, too, is like in watching Kevin kind of see that like the discussion

962
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:19,960
between his father and and Kerry was when he was saying, oh, I wouldn't wish wrestling

963
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,440
on anyone or on any of my boys.

964
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,280
And I'm like, but you push them all into it, dude.

965
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,280
Exactly.

966
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:34,240
Like you got screwed up or you felt like you got screwed out of an opportunity and now you're

967
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,800
making it everyone's problem.

968
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,560
Yeah.

969
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,320
So that was sad.

970
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,320
What it comes down to.

971
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,840
It was just it was super sad.

972
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,280
Yeah, it was.

973
01:04:52,280 --> 01:05:00,680
But yeah, the the breakdown that he has in front of his kids or Kevin does that scene

974
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,680
wrecked me.

975
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:10,440
It was so like because you know, like I think what was what was a bummer is you is you knew

976
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,600
what everyone's dream was.

977
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:13,600
Yeah.

978
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Like David, I think, was the only one that wanted to be a professional wrestler.

979
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:28,760
Yeah, when all was said and done, it was like David wanted the the title.

980
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:35,960
Kevin wanted just to live somewhere with his brothers.

981
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:41,240
Like live on a big old open ranch with his brothers.

982
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:49,640
Kerry wanted to be an Olympian and Mike wanted to be a musician and none of them got that.

983
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,240
Nope.

984
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,240
Yeah.

985
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,240
So sad.

986
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,240
I know.

987
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:59,840
Like it was it was heartbreaking to watch.

988
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:07,400
And you you know, like I think what this movie did really well is show what like you understand

989
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,040
where he's coming from with some of the shitty decisions that he's making, like not sleeping

990
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,040
at home.

991
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,040
Yeah.

992
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,040
Yeah.

993
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,960
Because he doesn't want to bring the curse on to his his wife and kid.

994
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,040
So yeah, completely understandable.

995
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:21,040
Yeah.

996
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Like so funny enough, Brielle came in around that scene like when Pam was calling Kevin

997
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,120
out on that and being like, we need you home.

998
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,440
And like he's talking about like spreading the curse and whatever.

999
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,280
And Brielle was like, well, that's freaking dumb.

1000
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,720
Like curses aren't real and blah, blah, blah.

1001
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,680
I'm like, you haven't seen the rest of this movie yet.

1002
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,000
Like I would absolutely be on this bandwagon.

1003
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,080
Like, he started off like not really buying it.

1004
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,640
And then it's like the horrible thing after horrible thing happened.

1005
01:06:55,640 --> 01:07:00,400
And it's like, like, yeah, maybe a curse is happening.

1006
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,400
Yeah.

1007
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:07,480
Like fricking is rough, dude.

1008
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Yeah.

1009
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Fricking rough.

1010
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,520
No, 100 percent.

1011
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:19,160
So I am very much of the mindset that you understand where he's coming from, even with

1012
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,640
the bad decisions.

1013
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,640
Yes.

1014
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,680
And I think that's very important.

1015
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,920
Yeah, definitely.

1016
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:34,400
But I like that you get to see his his life go in alternate direction when he actually

1017
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,440
starts like not giving a flying shit what his dad thinks.

1018
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,440
Yeah.

1019
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:44,320
He goes and sells the business to be able to afford a house and everything.

1020
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Like I think like watching as a as a parent, I would if my child if I handed something

1021
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:59,880
to my child, like a business and they were just drowning in it, like, yeah, freaking

1022
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:00,880
sell it, bro.

1023
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,560
Like, I don't like I don't want that for you.

1024
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:11,280
But him or Fritz, he was just like, well, you better not fricking sell this or you're

1025
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,040
not welcome in my house anymore.

1026
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,560
And I'm like, damn, dude.

1027
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,560
Yeah, seriously.

1028
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,480
Like, that's some horseshit.

1029
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:25,040
And I wish we would have gotten like a little bit of payoff for that scene where he's just

1030
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,760
like, yeah, I don't care anymore.

1031
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:28,760
Yeah.

1032
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:36,960
So, yeah, the the arc here was was was rocking, even though I do feel like it was a bit of

1033
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:43,440
one of those negative arcs, at least until it got to the end and then started rising

1034
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:44,440
up a bit.

1035
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:45,440
Yeah, definitely.

1036
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:51,840
Because I there are some instances where I feel like we we didn't leave on the highest

1037
01:08:51,840 --> 01:09:00,000
note just because they they did like the epilogue of this and then they showed off what his

1038
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,000
what he had accomplished.

1039
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Yeah.

1040
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,360
And all that good stuff.

1041
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:09,240
And I like that we got to see that.

1042
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:14,880
I don't necessarily think that that's something we needed to see within the context of the

1043
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,680
movie.

1044
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:17,680
That's fair.

1045
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,600
OK, I can agree with that.

1046
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,680
Because we've had some other issues where it's like, oh, well, it ended and his arc wasn't

1047
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,360
quite complete.

1048
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,240
I feel like this is an instance where his arc wasn't complete.

1049
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:36,600
But in terms of or with how the film was structured, it made sense.

1050
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,360
And so I'm just being like, oh, and he lived happily ever after.

1051
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,880
Like totally fine with that.

1052
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,500
Yeah.

1053
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:49,600
So where are you sitting with the character development?

1054
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:57,120
I think I think I'm going to be at a solid 90 character development.

1055
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:01,000
I am actually a little higher than you on this one, surprisingly.

1056
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,760
Ninety two.

1057
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,760
Oh, yeah.

1058
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,080
All right.

1059
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,400
Next up, we got a facts.

1060
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:16,040
Which this can this is stunt work.

1061
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,960
And cinematography.

1062
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,360
I thought this was great.

1063
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,160
The stunt work here was rocking.

1064
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,160
Yeah.

1065
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,880
Like all of the wrestling scenes were fantastic.

1066
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,880
Yeah.

1067
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:38,680
Like I didn't see a single scene that like made me think twice about like, like, oh, that

1068
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,680
looked fake.

1069
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,240
Well, it's rough, too, because it's like I also know it's wrestling.

1070
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,240
Yeah.

1071
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:45,240
That's fair.

1072
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,320
Like, I could tell, like, oh, yeah, that punched in land, but it's like also didn't need to.

1073
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:51,320
Yeah.

1074
01:10:51,320 --> 01:11:02,440
I wonder how difficult it is to film like wrestling stunt work, because it's like, do

1075
01:11:02,440 --> 01:11:05,280
you want like how real do you want to make it look?

1076
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:06,960
Yeah, that's true.

1077
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,240
Like, because obviously you could make it look super real.

1078
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,520
Or do you want to make it look fake?

1079
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:20,640
Yeah, like, gosh, I would love to watch our talk with a choreographer about something

1080
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,640
like that.

1081
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,640
I think that'd be so interesting.

1082
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,400
No, that would be.

1083
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:33,600
I feel one of my favorite shots in this movie is when Kevin is he's in the ring.

1084
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,440
And I think it's a black and white shot.

1085
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,140
I might be wrong.

1086
01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:44,320
But he literally just keeps running back and forth between the ropes and just bouncing

1087
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,800
off.

1088
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,440
And he does it multiple times.

1089
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:49,480
It's such a great scene to me.

1090
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:53,760
And I feel like it gets more powerful each time.

1091
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,200
Like to the point I'm just like, how the hell is he not broken these yet?

1092
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:04,120
Like he's putting all his freaking strength and weight into that shit.

1093
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:09,240
I hope that was like Zac Efron doing that.

1094
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,240
I hope so too.

1095
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,160
Because you're right.

1096
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,960
The more hits that was landing and just the more that he was throwing himself against

1097
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:24,920
those, the ring was crazy.

1098
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,880
And like, have you ever like felt those, like the ropes?

1099
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,320
No, huh?

1100
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,480
Those are not like springy ropes.

1101
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:37,600
No, they freaking hurt.

1102
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,200
It feels like you're hitting a brick wall.

1103
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,200
Like a stringed up brick wall.

1104
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,600
Those don't move easily.

1105
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Shit.

1106
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:55,120
So yeah, I think it was just conditioning stuff because it was like that and then he

1107
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:00,880
was throwing himself on the ground or on the mats.

1108
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,840
But yeah, super powerful scene.

1109
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,720
And just some crazy stunt work too.

1110
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:16,800
Like just the, I don't know the terms.

1111
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:23,040
One downfall of not being raised, like no one wrestling, but like throwing himself from

1112
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,040
the corner and like...

1113
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,040
Dude, I don't remember these moves.

1114
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,040
You don't remember them?

1115
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:29,040
No.

1116
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,840
I don't feel as bad then.

1117
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:39,320
But whatever, a lot of those stuff like felt like they were landing hard.

1118
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,200
And I think that's a big draw to wrestling.

1119
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:50,440
It's just selling that work or that I guess stunt work.

1120
01:13:50,440 --> 01:13:53,880
Yeah, no, yeah, it's true.

1121
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:59,960
So yeah, this is another really high category for me.

1122
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:09,920
I might dock a little bit because of the, maybe some of the cinematography choices.

1123
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,920
I will say, some of them worked.

1124
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,920
Where it was like the pan, or not even the pan shot, where it was just a still shot of

1125
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,480
them.

1126
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:25,200
They were trying to look for Mike and then you just see them searching and then you see

1127
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,840
them run off to a certain area.

1128
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,040
Oh yeah.

1129
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:36,160
That shot I think maybe was a little too far away.

1130
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,160
That's fair.

1131
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,400
Because it was just like, okay, what are they doing?

1132
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,400
And then...

1133
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,400
Oh, sorry.

1134
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,920
Yeah, if I didn't have the subtitles on, I would have been screwed.

1135
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,920
I would have been like, huh?

1136
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,920
What?

1137
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:56,480
How do you feel about the beginning being in black and white?

1138
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,800
Felt out of tone.

1139
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,920
I feel the same way.

1140
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,840
I would have caught on that this is the Von Erich Brothers at a young age and this is

1141
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:06,840
the dad in his prime.

1142
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,480
You didn't need to have it in black and white showing, oh yeah, no, this is just showcasing

1143
01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:16,920
that it takes place before we're introduced to them in the present day or in their present

1144
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:17,920
day.

1145
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,920
I just chalked that up to an A24 decision.

1146
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:21,920
Fair.

1147
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Yeah, that's fair.

1148
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,320
I think they try to be...

1149
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,200
I think my issue with A24 is they try to be a little bit more artistic than they need

1150
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,040
to be.

1151
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,040
Their stories are...

1152
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,920
I think they need to work on story structure and not be so freaking artsy fartsy.

1153
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,320
Yeah, that's fair.

1154
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:49,680
If they can nail that down, I'm all on A24 train, but yeah, that scene doesn't bother

1155
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,200
me too much because it's still really good.

1156
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,080
Yeah, it's still a great team.

1157
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:01,400
I think I'm going to be a couple points lower than my character development, so I'm going

1158
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,880
to be at like a 90 for the effects.

1159
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:12,120
I was toying with the idea of doing like 89, but it just felt a little low.

1160
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:13,120
Yeah.

1161
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,000
I think I'm going to match you.

1162
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:22,480
All right, next up we got music.

1163
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,280
I feel nothing really stands out.

1164
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:30,320
Thank goodness they didn't have any pop songs or anything in this because it would have

1165
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,200
taken you out of the movie.

1166
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,280
I feel when the score needs to go hard, it goes hard.

1167
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:41,640
It does well at the emotional moments.

1168
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:46,000
It's nothing special, but for the moments that it needs to stand out when it comes to

1169
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,560
a music score, I feel it does a good job.

1170
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:49,560
Yeah.

1171
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:54,480
I think the only song that really stood out for me, and I know the name of this freaking

1172
01:16:54,480 --> 01:17:07,120
song, but I can't spew it out, the song that Mike was listening to while Carrie was training,

1173
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,800
and then that's the one that the three brothers came out to.

1174
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Yeah, I can't remember.

1175
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:23,480
Yeah, that's the only song that I felt was utilized really well to hype up a scene.

1176
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:24,560
Nothing else.

1177
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:33,920
There was some more memorable tracks throughout this, but I don't think that those were used

1178
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:38,600
to their fullest potential.

1179
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,960
I will say I'm giving this movie a lot of credit for their use of silences.

1180
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:45,320
Yes.

1181
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,640
Definitely agree with that.

1182
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,640
Yeah.

1183
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:57,280
I think soundtrack alone, I think I would be at a six, but I think with how well the

1184
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:04,040
silences were used, I think that warrants a point bump, so I'm going to give that a

1185
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,040
seven.

1186
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,360
I feel the same way.

1187
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,520
All right.

1188
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:16,360
Next up, we got costumes.

1189
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,360
These were good.

1190
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:22,680
It definitely didn't shock me, the type of stuff that they wore in the wrestling ring.

1191
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:30,640
It wasn't anything like, because I've seen some WWE wrestlers wear some very extravagant

1192
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,800
outfits.

1193
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,000
They definitely wore some stuff to bring attention to themselves.

1194
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:47,080
Definitely Zac Efron's yellow or orange fricking trunks.

1195
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,960
But I feel none of it fell out of place.

1196
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,480
It made sense.

1197
01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,200
I feel it was good.

1198
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,440
It made sense for wrestling.

1199
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:05,480
So honestly, I don't think I really had any problems with the costumes.

1200
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:07,920
Yeah.

1201
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:18,880
I mean, the outfits, nothing too crazy, but I think that was before WWE or just wrestling

1202
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:24,680
in general got, there was more of a show behind it.

1203
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,760
It wasn't just the wrestling.

1204
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:33,360
I'm trying to think of any outfits.

1205
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:43,960
The outfits that they wore or just the brothers wore were pretty basic, I'd say.

1206
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:50,560
I'm not familiar with Ric Flair, but I do feel like maybe he could have been a little

1207
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,560
bit more extravagant.

1208
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,840
But I also, like I said, not super familiar with the character.

1209
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,840
So do you know him?

1210
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,160
I do.

1211
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:05,160
I have seen him more extravagant than this growing up, but I still feel that it was on

1212
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,160
his level.

1213
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,160
It was on his level?

1214
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,160
Okay.

1215
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,160
Yeah.

1216
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,560
This one's tough.

1217
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,760
This one's like super tough.

1218
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,120
This is someone, I think I could be at like a seven and a half, but we don't do halves.

1219
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,120
I don't know.

1220
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:28,200
Just personally, I'm at eight because growing up, just remembering the costumes for WWE,

1221
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:34,800
even though this was before WWE, I guess WWF, because that's where it started, really took

1222
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:35,800
off.

1223
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:41,120
They weren't as extravagant as they are when I was a kid or even today.

1224
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:48,160
But looking how Ric Flair's costume looked and just how the Von Erics looked, I feel

1225
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:55,160
that they did a really good job showcasing what wrestlers wear to these events.

1226
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,440
So I'm at an eight.

1227
01:20:58,440 --> 01:20:59,440
Yeah.

1228
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:05,860
If we didn't round down, I would probably give this a seven, but I do think that it

1229
01:21:05,860 --> 01:21:08,600
deserves a little bit higher.

1230
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,600
So yeah.

1231
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:18,480
So like I said, I'd be at a seven and a half, which would end up rounding up to an eight,

1232
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:19,940
like given your score.

1233
01:21:19,940 --> 01:21:23,840
So I'll also give it an eight so it doesn't get bumped down.

1234
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,400
Okay, cool.

1235
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,400
All right.

1236
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,520
Last up, we got personal score.

1237
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:29,520
Sorry.

1238
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,640
You want this first or?

1239
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:34,640
Okay.

1240
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,960
You might want to go first because I'm about to have a cough attack.

1241
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,960
Give me a minute.

1242
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,960
Okay.

1243
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:40,960
All right.

1244
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:46,440
I am not well versed in the wrestling world.

1245
01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:52,720
And I don't think that that detracted from my enjoyment of this film too much.

1246
01:21:52,720 --> 01:22:01,240
There was definitely a lot of, I don't know, like filling in the gaps for what the wrestling

1247
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:02,800
world looks like for me.

1248
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,680
That made me just kind of be like, what?

1249
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:11,520
But that's more of a judgment on the wrestling world than this film.

1250
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:19,720
I think Zac Efron and everyone else in this cast were able to capture the essence of brotherhood

1251
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:25,280
very well and the relationship that brothers have.

1252
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:30,640
And I really appreciated that.

1253
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,360
They did a lot well.

1254
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:39,240
There were a lot of odd choices with this film in terms of like the editing and just

1255
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,840
different shots that they had.

1256
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:54,320
But they nailed the action sequences or just the stunt work that went behind this like

1257
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,280
major major props to the stunt people on this film.

1258
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:03,400
Like they did fantastic.

1259
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,200
And then I would also say a slap on the wrist.

1260
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:14,600
Never made us whoever's decision it was to show all of these guys in Tidy Whitey's way

1261
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,800
too much.

1262
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:25,560
But yeah, I enjoy this movie.

1263
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:32,800
Definitely one that I would rewatch again.

1264
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,560
I'd probably have to watch it with someone though.

1265
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:41,920
I don't know if I could watch this again by myself.

1266
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,240
Like this would be one that if someone had claimed like, oh, I've never seen Iron Claw.

1267
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,720
I'd be like, oh, well, you want to sit down and watch it?

1268
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,480
Like it'd be that scenario.

1269
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:53,800
I don't know if I would come back and re-explore it.

1270
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,240
But I did thoroughly enjoy the film.

1271
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:04,080
It just it almost gives one and done vibes.

1272
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,560
I would like to see someone else experience this.

1273
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:15,400
So I am going to be giving this one an 84.

1274
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,120
Okay, not bad.

1275
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,120
Yeah, really everything that Caleb said.

1276
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,160
This is this might be my favorite A24 film.

1277
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,280
I'll say it actually probably is.

1278
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,400
Just because the acting is incredible.

1279
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:43,940
This story between these brothers is just it's you get you love seeing them succeed,

1280
01:24:43,940 --> 01:24:50,160
but then just all of the gut wrenching, heart wrenching, everything that they go through

1281
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:56,080
is just it's hard to watch, but you can't take your eyes off of it.

1282
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:01,840
And there were moments throughout that I was wiping away tears because it's just told so

1283
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:07,520
well and it's hard to watch in some instances.

1284
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:13,720
But just everything is done so well from the acting to the storytelling to the cinematography.

1285
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:20,040
Yeah, just I have I had a really, really good time with this one.

1286
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:24,100
And I definitely agree with Caleb.

1287
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:28,280
It's kind of hard to go back and rewatch this movie.

1288
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:31,800
Like I might have a hard time, but I definitely agree.

1289
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,720
Like you have someone says, oh, yeah, you know, I haven't seen the Iron Claw.

1290
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:36,720
Yeah, definitely.

1291
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,720
Let's watch it together.

1292
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:38,720
Come on.

1293
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:48,000
So yeah, so personally, I think.

1294
01:25:48,000 --> 01:26:02,360
I think personally, I'm going to be at an.

1295
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:08,000
Sorry, man, you usually don't struggle with these.

1296
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,000
Yeah.

1297
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,480
And I've been thinking about this.

1298
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,720
I think I'm going to give an eighty eight.

1299
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:17,720
Okay.

1300
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Pretty decent score.

1301
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,480
All right.

1302
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:29,600
So going through these categories, if it will.

1303
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,960
Oh, did it update?

1304
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:34,960
Hopefully.

1305
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,840
Oh, I guess it did.

1306
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:43,600
Usually the indicator like on on this, the algorithm is that it will show half points,

1307
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,920
but I think everything rounded out to whole points.

1308
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,280
Oh, okay.

1309
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Yeah.

1310
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,000
So that that hasn't happened.

1311
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,000
Yeah.

1312
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,000
Very interesting.

1313
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,000
All right.

1314
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,000
All right.

1315
01:26:55,000 --> 01:27:00,000
Going through these scores real quick, starting off with story, we ended up averaging out

1316
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,800
to an eighty six.

1317
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,440
Then writing ended up getting one point higher, sitting at an eighty seven.

1318
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:20,840
The acting is sitting at a very solid ninety one, which is tied with for the highest category

1319
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:25,720
with character development that is also sitting at a ninety one.

1320
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:33,480
The stunt work friggin dominated with this film, so it is sitting at a ninety.

1321
01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:36,400
Music is sitting at a seven out of ten.

1322
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:41,720
The costumes are sitting at an eight out of ten and our personal score ended up averaging

1323
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,120
out to an eighty six.

1324
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:54,920
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for the iron claw has come out to a B plus.

1325
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,920
Yes, let's go.

1326
01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,560
Hell yeah.

1327
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:04,480
Very, very good ranking with that one.

1328
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:07,200
So let's see where it is sitting.

1329
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:15,520
Oh, it's a sturdier like our cut off for an A minus is ninety percent.

1330
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,560
This is sitting at an eighty seven percent.

1331
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,160
OK, not bad.

1332
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,560
I guess just flat out eighty seven.

1333
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:25,560
Wow.

1334
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:26,560
OK, damn.

1335
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,560
Yeah.

1336
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,920
So that puts it on the exact same level as nobody.

1337
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,440
I can't remember what the Bob Erding, Odenkirk movie.

1338
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:36,440
Oh, yeah.

1339
01:28:36,440 --> 01:28:37,440
OK, OK.

1340
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:40,320
Yeah, I could totally agree with that.

1341
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,360
I can get behind that.

1342
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,360
All right.

1343
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,360
Let's see.

1344
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,600
Let's see what it's below first.

1345
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:53,160
It is sitting below Halloween 1978.

1346
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:54,640
Wow.

1347
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:57,480
Yeah, dude.

1348
01:28:57,480 --> 01:28:59,920
Barely to.

1349
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:07,040
It is point six point not even point six point zero six percent higher, not even point one

1350
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:08,040
percent.

1351
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,040
Wow.

1352
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,040
Damn.

1353
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,040
Yes.

1354
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,520
It is also below psycho.

1355
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,160
OK.

1356
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,960
It is below the Willoughby's.

1357
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,960
Oh, damn it.

1358
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,360
Dude, the Willoughby's is the shit.

1359
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,800
You can go to hell.

1360
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,040
It is also below elemental.

1361
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,080
All right.

1362
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,080
OK.

1363
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,920
It is below Detective Pikachu.

1364
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:37,520
We were a little too high with that one.

1365
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,440
You can go to hell.

1366
01:29:41,440 --> 01:29:43,200
And it is below freaky.

1367
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:44,200
Yeah.

1368
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:45,840
Feel the same way.

1369
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,600
I'm still a little too high.

1370
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,440
Bill, you had your chance to change the scores.

1371
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:54,440
Yeah, I know.

1372
01:29:54,440 --> 01:29:55,440
Shut up.

1373
01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:56,440
All right.

1374
01:29:56,440 --> 01:29:58,080
Go in the opposite direction.

1375
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:01,000
It is sitting above Nightmare Alley.

1376
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:02,400
Fair.

1377
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:09,320
That might be one that I kind of disagree with because I like Nightmare Alley a bit more.

1378
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,320
Go to hell.

1379
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:13,920
All right.

1380
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,200
It is above frozen to.

1381
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,760
OK.

1382
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:26,960
Yeah, it is above Scream 2022.

1383
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,560
I can agree with that.

1384
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,880
It is above the Lego movie to definitely agree with that.

1385
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,480
And it is above Black Adam.

1386
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:39,320
Don't definitely agree with that.

1387
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,480
Miles better than Black Adam.

1388
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:43,480
Yeah.

1389
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:48,640
Oh, but I think overall it has a pretty decent home.

1390
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:57,840
I like that you disagreed with what is below more than what it is above.

1391
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,840
Love when that happens.

1392
01:30:58,840 --> 01:30:59,840
Oh, shit.

1393
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:00,840
All right.

1394
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:05,880
Well, you got anything else you want to say about the ironclaw?

1395
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,880
Nope.

1396
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,880
OK.

1397
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:13,120
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1398
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,560
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1399
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,280
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1400
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:23,360
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1401
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,800
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1402
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1403
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:32,360
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1404
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,360
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1405
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:37,960
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1406
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:43,960
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1407
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,560
Is it the Albrose or Albrose channel?

1408
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,160
For our email?

1409
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,160
For our website?

1410
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,200
Oh, it's just the Albrose.

1411
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,000
OK, it's just the Albrose.

1412
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,000
OK.

1413
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,000
Yeah, you may be second guess myself.

1414
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,600
So tinyurl.com forward slash the Albrose.

1415
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,320
That's what it is.

1416
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,360
And then if you want to check out our merch store, you can find it at tpublic.com forward

1417
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,120
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1418
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,440
That one has channel, right?

1419
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:11,440
Yep.

1420
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:12,440
OK.

1421
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:13,440
All right.

1422
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,720
Just make sure.

1423
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:21,640
Next week, we will be breaking down the Emma Stone movie Poor Things.

1424
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,120
So let's see if she deserved that Oscar.

1425
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:25,120
I'm sure she did.

1426
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,120
Emma Stone's amazing.

1427
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,960
Yeah, I'm excited to talk about that one.

1428
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:36,200
I'll reach out to DJ, see if he wants to talk about it, because he seemed like he was on

1429
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,200
the fence about it.

1430
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:44,520
Yeah, that would be awesome if he could join us.

1431
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,340
We still got to see if he wants to join.

1432
01:32:46,340 --> 01:32:52,240
Are we wanting to actually reach out and see if he wants to do a fucking Rebel Moon part

1433
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:53,240
two?

1434
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,240
Oh, good question.

1435
01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:02,240
Because I think that premieres this week or next week on Netflix.

1436
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,160
Oh, I'll ask him.

1437
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,160
OK.

1438
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,160
Sounds good.

1439
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:13,120
I'll ask him, hey, do you want to do Rebel Moon part two or do you want to do Poor Things?

1440
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,320
Oh, shit.

1441
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:22,240
But anyway, until then, this has been the All Bros podcast.

1442
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,240
I'm Jonathan.

1443
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:24,240
And I'm Caleb.

1444
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:31,880
And we'll catch you guys next week.

1445
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:32,880
So long.

1446
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,880
I can't do that, dude.

1447
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:34,880
You suck.

1448
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,160
You do your shut up.

1449
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:38,160
Kiss my ass.

1450
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:43,320
Do your deuces and just get this shit over with.

1451
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,360
Way to show your enthusiasm for the show.

1452
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:46,360
I'm sorry.

1453
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:47,360
I'm sorry.

1454
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:48,360
All right.

1455
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Deuces.

1456
01:33:49,360 --> 01:34:09,920
And I'm gonna go blue because I think apparently, unfortunately, you'reirvana everything's