What is up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast, with this being the first episode in April, we'll be talking
about 4k spotlight.
So we'll be just talking about the movies that will be coming to 4k and blu ray in April.
And then we'll be talking about pleasers teasers as well, trailers that came out the past month
in March, and just talking about what we thought about them for excited, you know, stuff like
that.
And then after that, we'll be moving on to our headliner of the evening, which will be
our breakdown of Ghostbusters frozen empire.
So yeah.
So without further ado, Caleb, what do you say we get started?
Say let's do it.
This is failing Hollywood with me, Billy, Grant, and your host, Mikey T. We work in
film and it's terrible.
And there's like strikes and stuff and then COVID and stuff.
I keep a toaster next to my bathtub.
Yeah, because we work at props.
That's why that's why that because I want to die.
I thought you kept your soap hot, you know, like it down, heat it up if we rub it all
over your body.
I was going to make a funny joke, but then I forgot what I was going to say.
Don't you hate that?
Oh, with with reference to the failing Hollywood ad, I was like, damn, I wish I could actually
have a good reason for keeping a toaster by my bathtub.
All jokes, all jokes.
Anyway, getting started, getting started with a 4K spotlight.
I feel April is pretty stacked.
We got a lot going on.
And so and there are a couple things that we usually don't talk about, but I feel that
for how cool the releases, I feel that we should talk about it.
So but first getting off at the beginning of the month, we got Jason Stateman's Beekeeper
coming out statements, Statham, Statham.
What?
I don't know how we've done some of his movies on this podcast before.
I don't know how to pronounce names.
Okay, kiss my ass.
Yeah, Jason Statham's Beekeeper.
And to be honest, I have no interest in seeing this.
I honestly don't either.
Okay, it seems like one of the action.
I know it seems like a really mindless action movie.
I mean, honestly, the posters kind of cool.
I will give him that like the poster actually kind of does it for me.
Yeah, the posters sick.
But just Yeah, I don't know.
I don't have any interest in it.
You know what?
This kind of reminds me of just like a little bit.
It's just like the Candyman.
I don't know why.
Do you honestly they this should have been an alternate poster for the Candyman.
This is actually really, really good.
It would have made sense.
Absolutely would have made sense.
I don't know if the color scheme would have quite hit.
But I mean, well, on the poster I remember is yellow for Candyman, I think.
I'm gonna look real quick because I'm remembering that as well.
At least for the remake it is.
2021.
So the the font was yellow.
The poster itself was was like black and white.
Okay, never mind.
But still, you it would have translated.
Yeah, it would have translated really well.
Yeah.
But alas, we'll never know.
I mean, unless someone decides to do a mock up of it, you know, because, you know, Photoshop
and everything.
Yeah, this is one that I'm probably going to see because Braille loves those mindless
action movies when she decides to watch it on streaming.
Okay, is Braille a Fast and Furious fan?
A fan's a strong term.
She has she has seen the movies.
She likes to make fun of them.
I like it.
Yeah.
So it's like not quite a fan, but not quite a hater either.
Like she enjoys the mindless violence and just like the over the top just absolute bullshit.
But she likes watching it to make fun of the movie.
Like I don't know.
I just and you know, going off topic here, I just wish that they would actually go back
to just being about racing and not being about all the stupid family shit.
They can't anymore.
True.
That that ship has sailed.
Darn in the next or what was it in Fast X they went to space or is that in the next
one?
I don't know.
I know.
I really doesn't matter.
Eleven because I swear Vin Diesel did confirm.
Oh yeah, we're taking the shit into space.
I'm like, why?
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Yeah.
The freaking dude.
Yeah, so this Jason Statham's movies are just shy of being fast and furious.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, come on.
The make is literally the just take away the cars and out of shark.
There you go.
Exactly.
I have yet to see a Jason Statham movie where he's I wish he would do like a comedy.
Come here.
Like, like he was in a comedy, the spy, but he was still the like straight face character.
Yeah, I want to see him try to do something funny.
I do too.
I bet like even if it's like like I bet he would have been a really good alternative
to Dave Bautista's character in my spy.
Oh yeah, I would have actually really liked to see him in that movie.
Even against Bautista, but I mean, Bautista did great in that, but I would have liked
to see at least that's the kind of vibe that I would like to see him in versus this super
hardcore badass all the time.
It's just like, okay, you've overdone it.
Yeah, I mean, but what sucks about him, I'm sure he's just like, well, they keep doing
well at the box office, or at least decently well, and I get a good paycheck from it.
People still like see me in these kind of roles, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Because that's how Liam Neeson feels with all of his movies that he does.
Because like literally everything after Taken just feels like a rip off of Taken, but people
still go and see him.
They still make money.
He still gets a good profit from it.
So yeah, that's also bullshit because Liam Neeson is so much better of an actor than
the action like Taken movie.
Taken, I wouldn't even put that in his top five films.
I wouldn't either take the first Taken I enjoy.
I actually think it's a good thriller.
Taken is a great thriller.
Yeah, take I never bothered with Taken two or three.
And I've never seen any of like the other movies that I feel are just his his character
branching off from Taken.
And honestly, I don't know if I really have any desire to.
Yeah, gosh.
Like, there's so many other like genres that he could touch on.
Like he I've personally liked some of the romantic comedies that he's been in.
I mean, like he was in Love Actually.
I enjoyed that movie a lot.
I think he plays a super funny character in A Million Ways to Die in the West.
Yes.
And his one cameo in Ted, too, is one of the best parts of the whole movie.
Easily one of my favorite things.
So so good.
But yeah, I mean, he's so much more than just like an action star.
Yeah, freaking hell.
He was the voice of Aslan in Chronicles and Aurea.
Yeah.
Like he he's got he has a lot more going for him.
I've like I've always kind of early on, I before I started like recognizing names, I
always thought that him and Ralph Fiennes were like really either related or.
I thought they were the same person out at some point because they I feel like they have
similar face structure.
I could see it.
I could tell the difference now.
But when I was when I was younger, it was very like, wait, was that Liam or was that
Ralph?
No, dude, I get that.
I left the door open too long today.
A bunch of bugs.
Oh, shit.
Well, I mean, hey, that that then ties into this movie.
That's like perfect.
Oh, man.
So Beekeeper coming out this this month next up.
Now I know we don't talk about shows when it comes to, you know, releases and everything,
but I feel that since Disney is starting to I mean, they actually have been doing it for
like a couple of months now, considering that they did it for Loki and Wandavision.
I love that they are and the Mandalorian.
I love that they are doing physical releases for their original series.
That makes me so freaking happy.
And I hope that they continue it because I hate that Hawkeye is not on this list.
That is bull shit.
Right.
Yeah.
Freaking Moon Knight is on this list.
But Moon Knight came out after Hawkeye.
Freaking dumb, dude.
Hawkeye gets no love.
Yeah.
So I'm hoping that maybe they're just holding it off until Christmas, which you know what
I can accept.
But that would be the only valid excuse.
Yeah, I agree.
But yeah, anyway, before I get even more mad.
But so yeah, so they're doing a bunch of physical releases for both Star Wars and Marvel shows
that were Disney Plus originals.
So first up, we got Andor, which I hate that I still haven't watched the show because I
freaking love the character of Cassian Andor from Rogue One.
And I've heard this show is freaking great.
It's it's deep into the Star Wars.
Like there's I'm trying to remember.
I don't think there are any Jedi in it.
So it is it's purely Cassian Andor.
I love it.
But it's it was a surprisingly good series, not one that I would have if I knew now what
I or if I knew then what I know now, I would have watched the I would have waited until
the entire series came out.
OK, I mean, they are getting a season two.
I think they're working on that right now.
I if it has to be on the same level of season one, but I I would have watched all of it
consecutively.
I don't think I would have watched it week to week.
This worked better as like a super long movie rather than a show.
OK.
I thoroughly enjoyed this film or not this film.
I mean, you did say you should just watch it all together because it feels like a long
film.
I know.
It's a good film.
But it's really good.
I highly recommend checking that out, especially if you liked his character in Rogue One.
Hell yeah.
OK, that is definitely on the top of my list.
Next up, we got Obi-Wan Kenobi.
That is a bitch in cover, dude.
Right.
So cool.
What the shit, Disney?
Like when you drop the ball on the rest of your frickin content.
I feel bad, though, because, you know, McGregor is really pushing for a season two.
But I think it says the complete series on this.
Oh, you assholes.
So I think that just told us everything that we need to know.
There will most likely not be a season two of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
That is so lame because you're going to tease us with Liam Neeson and not frickin follow
up.
You've frickin dickheads.
But like this is one of the coolest steelbook artworks I've seen in a very long time.
This is beautiful.
Dude, that's fantastic.
Right.
Just perfection, like perfection.
I haven't even seen the series and this is perfection.
This is one that if.
What are your feelings on episode three?
Love it.
OK, you would like this then.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, it is so good.
And the the little girl who plays Leia is amazing.
That's what I've heard.
Like she like even as like a little kid, she adds so much to the character of Princess
Leia.
Oh my gosh, dude, so much.
That's awesome.
Do you think Carrie Fisher would have been proud?
Oh, absolutely.
Do she?
This little girl was a spitfire.
That's that's good to hear.
That's like she's exactly what I imagine Leia being.
OK.
Hell yeah.
Love it.
Yeah, dude, I'm still behind on my shows.
I really got to step it up.
So yeah, so we got Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Next up, we got Moon Knight.
Dude, these covers are freaking dope.
Right.
Oh, good.
Oh, man.
What the hell, Disney?
Dude, if Hawkeyes isn't as good as these, I'm going to be so mad.
Oh, if it's like Christmas themed, that is just a disservice to the character.
Oh, great.
Absolutely agreed.
But damn, dude, it's like it's beautiful.
Like you got like people are just just listening to this.
You got to look these up and just see how beautiful this artwork is because we like
even if I try to explain it, I can't do it justice.
Yeah, it's it is crazy good.
This.
I've I've always been a really big fan of how Moon Knight looks as a character.
I was first introduced to him in Marvel's Ultimate Alliance on the 360.
And I like he so he was a character that I played as before I was able to unlock Hulk.
After Hulk got unlocked, I was like all Hulk all the time, but Moon Knight was the character
before.
And I loved playing as him.
And so I was super pumped when we when they announced this this series and this dude,
they're doing this character some justice on this artwork.
And this is one I don't feel is talked about enough.
A series.
Like this was a great series.
I feel when it comes to Disney plus Marvel shows, the only ones that people talk about
are Loki and WandaVision, mostly Loki.
Yeah, those are that's like the one that everyone really only cares about.
Whereas like some of them work great.
But I feel for the most part, all of them were pretty damn good.
So like some better than others.
But I enjoyed all of them.
Actually, I don't know if I can say that because I didn't finish she Hulk.
Was it worth is it worth finishing?
Yes and no.
Okay.
It scares me a little bit with that.
I know.
Well, I'd say no as a Hulk fan.
But I'd say yes as a she Hulk fan.
Okay.
If that makes any sense.
No, no, it makes complete sense.
There's a sequence at the end of the last episode that's just it fricking like blows
your mind.
Okay.
Like if you're watching it like properly.
Okay.
But yeah, I liked it.
And I like this series too.
This one was freaking killer.
Oscar Isaac as as Moon Knight was the bomb.
Like there's a couple episodes that are just freaking gut wrenching.
And I wouldn't say the first episode does it that well.
But if you can get into the second and third, like those really highlight how freaking badass
Moon Knight is.
Okay.
But yeah, big fan of this one.
Nice.
And then I think this is the last one for the steel books.
Come out the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Yeah, this is blue.
Yeah, I agree.
Like out of the four, I feel and and or is probably the most plain, which and or looked
fine.
Like it looks it works for it.
I'd put this at number three.
Fair enough.
I so I like the concept, but it's missing blue.
Yeah.
Like it needs a touch of it somewhere.
I don't quite know if it worked better in the center.
Like where US agent is I forget what his name is.
Or if it would work on that the outside better.
Damn.
I can't remember either.
Son of a bitch.
Yeah, I'm just gonna call him US agent.
Yeah, here we go.
But I think I would have preferred to have Sam's Captain America suit highlighted.
Agreed.
Like, come on.
It's a missed opportunity.
Like I understand it's Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
But he's like even before this.
Yeah, even before the show came out, they spoiled that.
Oh, yeah, he's gonna finally become Captain America in this one.
And this is how the suit is gonna look.
Yeah, so we already knew going in.
I'm not the biggest fan of this cover for multiple reasons.
That's fair.
It's okay.
The I mean, the concepts there it needs some tweaking, but it's all right.
You know, just because you know, I I like when I when one character, you know, it's
one character first than the one second, I feel that the first character's name, that
character should be on left the other one on the right.
So I hate that the character is a flip flopped here.
The Falcon should be on the left.
The Winter Soldier should be on the right.
It's called the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
That is a very valid complaint.
Like, come on, guys.
I also would have taken I would have taken US agent out of this too.
Yeah, he feels so out of place.
It feels like he's making it too busy.
And it's a simplistic like it's not simplistic, but like it's it's I guess it's like straight
to the point, which is fine for a steelbook.
But with his like character just like kind of just added there, it makes it feel way
too busy.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
Man.
Yeah, I could have improved this way more.
Yeah.
But you know what, I'm just happy that we're getting physical releases of the series because
that is just freaking awesome.
That makes me very happy.
Yeah.
Next.
Oh, sorry.
No, I just got to say again, too much red.
Way too.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Next up is kind of a well, no, I don't think a spoiler alert because we did we say last
week what we were doing or was it up in the air?
Oh, last.
Yeah.
We were up in the air last week.
Okay.
Well, so this is what we're doing next week.
Yeah.
So spoiler alert for next week, we are going to be breaking down the Oscar worthy Madame
Webb.
Okay, I haven't seen it yet.
So that's true.
Let's try to laugh my ass off.
Caleb actually likes it.
I would laugh.
I'm going to laugh my ass off, too.
I doubt I will.
But I would find that very funny if I did.
Because like I said last week, it will become the all bro podcast if he actually genuinely
likes Madame Webb.
Just saying.
If there's anything I do like, it's this frickin cover.
Really?
I hate this.
What?
Yeah, I hate this.
I think it looks stupid.
No way.
Yeah.
Mind, dude.
I mean, I wasn't going to buy the movie because I hated it.
But yeah, this steelbook is definitely not helping its case with adding it to my collection.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe it's just because I did not like her final suit.
And I'm not even going to get into deal tail with that.
But I don't know.
The steelbook does not do it for me.
I'm glad that you like it.
Like I'm glad that one of us actually likes it.
Yeah, I mean, I dig it.
Like I like seeing the other spiders kind of like splattered through the background.
I think that it almost looks like it's blood dripping.
Like that seems a bit weird.
But I like the webs that are kind of holding her.
This is just more maybe it's just more because I'm familiar with the character.
Like this is kind of how she's supposed to look.
Yeah.
OK.
I the only I only know the character from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon.
That's about as much as you need to know about her.
Yeah.
OK.
And I mean, I am remembering her character decently well.
Maybe it's just because I'm so used to seeing her old elderly.
That's the same word Jonathan dumbass.
Did you ever watch the ultimate Spider-Man?
I did not.
OK.
So they kind of have a tie in with her in it.
They they bring in a like a multi spider verse situation in there.
And she is part of that.
OK.
And they kind of have where it's it fits more in line with this version of her.
Interesting.
Maybe I should have watched that.
And no, I probably still wouldn't have enjoyed Madame Web.
But I'm spoiling it next week.
I'm not going to say anything more.
Yeah.
I've heard nothing but bad about this, and I'm fully anticipating that to be the case
with me.
Like, yeah, I cannot wait to hear your thoughts about this movie.
Yeah.
So that's the steelbook coming out from Madame Web.
And then the bare bones release on four game blu ray is literally just the poster that
came out with the classic subtitle or not subtitle tagline.
Or Web connects them all.
Lame.
Very, very lame.
It's very bland.
Yeah.
It's the classic fly.
Was it flying characters poster?
I forget what they call it.
But like every movie does it.
Yeah.
Floating character poster.
That's what it is.
Because like every movie now does it and I hate it.
But whatever.
Yeah, this versus the other one, I would take the other one in a heartbeat.
You know, if I had any intention of picking up this movie, I would too.
Because like I always tell myself, oh, even though if I if I if I hate it, I still need
to pick it up.
I never even bothered picking up Morbius, which which honestly really shocked me.
I would have judged you very harshly if you had.
Okay, good.
And yeah, I have no intention of picking up Madame Web either.
So Sony, you got to be better about these Spider-Man movies.
Early Spider-Man universe movies, your Spider-Man movies, strictly Spider-Man.
They're fine.
They're great.
It's everything else.
It's not great.
Yeah.
And then I think there's one more.
Oh, yep.
Mean Girls, the 2024 broad musical remake version, whatever the hell you want to call
it, is also coming out in April.
So definitely excited about this one.
Definitely going to pick this one up because I had a really fun time with this one.
Yeah, this is a pretty great movie.
So I like the cover, though.
I do, too.
Yeah, I do, too.
I also like that they're the same day that this comes out.
They're releasing the original on 4K as well.
So sick.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah, I believe that's it for 4K spotlight.
So next up, let's move into Pleasers Teasers, starting out with the Strangers Chapter One
trailer.
I'm excited.
Yeah, that's fair.
I'm excited for it because it's a Strangers movie.
And it definitely looks...
Well, you know, actually, I'm not even going to say it looks better than the second one
because I actually dug the hell out of the Strangers Prey at Night trailer.
Like that trailer got me freaking hyped for that movie.
And then the movie was just okay.
So I'm hoping that this one's actually good, but just I don't...
I still don't know how to feel about them splitting it into a trilogy and really diving
into who the strangers are and their background.
I don't need to know that.
They're the strangers, not the acquaintances.
They're three twisted, messed up people that enjoy effing with people and killing them.
That's all I need to know.
There's that.
I get what...
I'm fine with them all now just wearing grungy clothes, just coats and everything.
The man in the mask doesn't wear a suit anymore.
He's just wearing a freaking jacket over it.
The only one that I...
It just doesn't look right is Dollface's mask.
And I think I pointed this out in last week's episode when I talked about the Strangers
Prey at Night and this movie a little bit.
But just hers with...
Because the girl has her beanie over...
She has a beanie and then she has the mask over that.
And it just...
It looks weird.
Like, I don't know.
Dollface's mask needs to actually have hair out.
Yeah.
I'd agree with that.
It just doesn't work.
But I mean, like, man in the mask and a pinup girl, they look okay.
And the couple actually...
I will give them this.
Actually the couple...
I really like the couple that they chose for this one, especially the girl.
She's doing a great job.
But them kind of like twisting some of the lines.
Like when the lady says, why are you doing this?
And they say, because you're here, it definitely doesn't hit the same as because you were home.
Yeah.
But regardless, I'm still excited.
It's a Strangers movie.
The original is one of my favorite horror movies of all time.
So I'm going to give this a chance.
And I just really hope it doesn't disappoint me.
Fair enough.
I don't know if I've ever seen the original.
I've seen Prey at Night.
I don't know if I ever watched the first one.
If that's the case, I am a horrible friend for not showing you that before we watched
Prey at Night.
Because that would have given...
Yeah.
No, dude, seriously, let's do it on...
I don't know.
How do you feel about watching horror movies on VR?
No.
Okay.
So it's the next time I'm out there, the Strangers in person.
Got it.
Yeah.
Like how bad of a horror...
Compare it to Halloween kills.
I mean, honestly, the only thing with the Strangers is there's some jump scares.
But dude, I can call them out for you if you want me to.
I would prefer that.
Okay.
I can do that.
Because you'll definitely get a lot of glass breaking and the Strangers messing with them.
All freaking cheap ones.
I hate those.
But they make it work.
I think you'll really like the original Strangers.
And I don't know if I'll make it out there before this one comes out.
So I don't know if...
Well, actually, I don't even know when you're going to watch this one.
So maybe hold off on...
Or unless we're actually going to want to break this one down.
Hold off on this one until I can show you the original.
I am down to break this one down.
But I say what...
Let's hold off on setting anything in stone yet.
Just on the off chance that there's a lot of context that I would need from the first
two.
Sounds good.
Because I'll rewatch Prey at Night and then I'll watch the first one if I...
I'm assuming that you don't really need to because I think that this is a reboot.
Okay.
But...
I mean, it does say Chapter One.
So it just kind of implies that maybe this is a...
Okay.
But I would love for you to see the original.
I'm down.
So yeah, even if you watched this before, next time I'm out there, that is definitely
on the list for movies we're watching.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Next up, we got the second trailer for Inside Out 2.
And this is an interesting one because I really enjoyed this trailer.
And from what I remember, Caleb did not that much.
He thought it was just okay.
It was just okay.
Like I...
I really hope that they explain why the main five...
I think it's five.
Is it five or four?
No, it's five.
Okay, five.
I hope they explain why the main five are in charge of everyone else's.
I think...
I agree.
But I mean, considering that it definitely is showcasing that Riley's going through puberty
and as we all know, that is the most emotional roller coaster that you will go through.
And at least one of the most emotional roller coasters you'll go through in your life.
And so when anxiety literally says Riley's emotions are more sophisticated than you guys
right now, so she needs us more than you guys, so she needs embarrassment.
Oh my God, I just forgot my Hawks character.
Anxiety.
Yeah, I just said it.
Oh my God, what the hell's wrong with me?
So anxiety says that Riley needs anxiety.
Oh my God.
Anxiety.
Ennui.
Ennui, known as boredom.
Envy.
Thank you.
And then...
Embarrassment.
Damn.
Caleb just had him right off the bat.
Look at him go.
God damn it.
I'm fired.
I am fired.
But you know, when she says she needs these emotions more than you guys, honestly, makes
sense.
And when they cut to anxiety being like, initiate Riley, new Riley, just think that it makes
complete sense because when you hit puberty, a lot of us actually change who we used to
be.
Like, it feels like you become someone new.
You're not the same person.
So I actually really like what they're doing with these new emotions.
Like, yeah, it's unfortunate seeing the OG emotions sidelined, but it makes sense.
And I think, I'm assuming that by the end, like these, I don't think these emotions are
going to stick around or like maybe they'll like morph into the OG emotions and like they'll
only like, like just hover around only need the only come out when Riley needs them when
she as she's growing up because yeah, like you said, with everybody else, you only have
joy, sadness, anger, fear and disgust, which that makes sense.
And so I'm assuming that you only get these emotions when you're going through puberty
when you're between the ages like 13 and 16.
I hope they explain that.
I hope so too.
Because, because yeah, I'm, I definitely get where you're coming from.
I mean, it's going to take a frickin leap because I feel like they're going to have
to retcon some of the people that we saw.
Like the one the one that comes to mind is the forget if it was the the pizza.
No, not the pizza shop owner.
I think it was like a cool girl.
And then it like when her emotions and they're just like, they know we're a fraud or no,
it's the goth girl.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Because they're literally all the same.
Like like they're not different at all.
Like joy, sadness, anger, fear, disgust.
Like they don't actually resemble that.
Like literally they just look like the characters, but they're all literally the I feel they're
all literally depression.
Yeah.
So it's it.
That is where I feel like maybe they screwed up because it's like, I feel like if you're
going to have these emotions, that feels like an anxiety thing.
So and I hope they explain like why some characters have the emotions that all look like them.
Yes.
Like is that like a thing that you just get when you get older?
But at the same time, like you pointed out with that teen girl, they all they all looked
the same.
Yeah, like with the I mean, the goth girl, they all dress goth.
The boy that was in a Riley all had like the goofy looking hat like they dressed up like
him.
The dad, all of them had mustaches.
The mom, all of them are wearing glasses.
Like it's it tracks.
And I hope that they explain that.
I hope so, too.
I don't know if this is going to be a movie that takes place within like a weekend like
the first one.
I hope this one takes place over a longer period of time.
I hope so, too.
Yeah.
Like I think I saw a comment on this trailer being like, wow, I can't believe, you know,
like Pixar is going this deep with Inside Out 2 and like taking it to like this big
of a level when it comes to like Riley's emotions.
Like they didn't do that with the first one.
I'm thinking they they did.
I feel at the end when literally as Riley's getting on the bus and leaving fear points
out, guys, we can't make Riley feel anything with with fear, not fear.
Sorry.
Anger, disgust.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
Fear, anger, disgust.
When he says that just still like freaking like breaks my soul because you're just like,
yeah, Riley is literally facing probably the hardest depression that she might in her whole
life at that point.
And it is so, so honestly a little hard to watch when you fully understand what she's
going through.
Yeah.
Great scene.
I I hope they don't drop the ball on this because Inside Out is one of the best modern
movie, like Disney slash Pixar movies to come out.
Dude, same.
Do it honestly.
Inside Out is in my top three favorite Pixar movies.
I love the first Inside Out.
So yeah, dude, if they don't make the sequel as good as the first one, I'm going to be
so disappointed.
Yeah, same here.
It just I think the thing that like the big thing I don't like is that they've kind of
like you can cover all of the emotional spectrum with those five like with anxiety.
Like you that's it's fear and then embarrassment.
That's just fear and I feel disgust.
Yeah, then I mean, envy is a different one, but I don't I I have a hard time with envy.
Like that's not like envy is a state of like just I'm trying to think of like a combination
of like of what you can make envy.
Maybe that's like a sadness and sadness and fear.
I don't know.
I feel sadness and anger a little bit.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like that could be there.
And then like on we like boredom, it's just that's the one out of like these four that
I'm just like that one feels really unnecessary on we and envy feel unnecessary.
I'll take embarrassment and I would I'll take anxiety.
Yeah, those two make sense.
We envy and I'm just going to call boredom.
I'm not going to call it on we.
Yeah, they like they better do a really freaking good job explaining as to why these need a
very like an actual specific emotional character.
Yeah, I will be very disappointed if they if they drop the ball with this.
Yeah, seriously.
Yeah, so that so that's the inside out to trailer to next up.
We got the second trailer for Garfield.
This hasn't sold me any more than the first one did.
I'm the same way.
Maybe like a little bit more.
I will admit there is a joke that I like genuinely couldn't stop laughing at.
And it's when it's like at the beginning, and John takes Garfield to the vet and Liz
like he breaks the scale and she announces it on the intercom.
Like oh, we're going to need the big one and he turns to the camera.
He's just like, did you need to announce it to the whole office?
I think that was genuinely funny.
That was actually a really good good part.
But yeah, other than that, like, I mean, it's cool that we're getting a new Garfield movie,
but just sound.
Oh, yeah, the plot's not selling me yet.
I mean, I don't even know if it will in a second in a third trailer.
I'll probably have to wait to actually see it to Garfield is now in a format that I feel
is better suited for children.
That's fair.
Question it has like, were you always on board with Chris Pratt being the voice of Garfield
or were you kind of like indifferent about it?
I was a little indifferent about it just because Chris Pratt's done some so many voices lately.
Seriously.
And I I'm still neither sold or against his Garfield voice.
There are like some parts I'm like, OK, you know what?
I I like his voice is Garfield.
But then there's like some other parts.
I'm saying it's just Chris Pratt.
Yeah.
But I mean, we'll see.
We'll see how it goes.
Yeah, I'm hoping for the best.
Can't be worse than a tale of two kitties.
So yeah, I mean, if we're going to set the bar on the floor, the first live action Garfield
movie isn't good, but I still enjoy it.
I have a good time with it.
Yeah.
I can't say that.
Although it still kind of irritates me that Garfield is the only character that actually
fricking looks like himself from the cartoon.
They didn't even try with the other animals.
I know.
But I think you would have gone real.
In the like, son of the mask, if you would have tried anything different.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Like, could you imagine Odie looking exactly like he did?
Like that would have been unsettling.
Yeah, that'd be uncanny Valley.
Yeah.
All right.
Good point.
And then last, I believe.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
Two more.
Sorry about that.
Next up, we got the first trailer for Borderlands.
I have never played any of the games and maybe this is the reason why.
But I actually am interested in this one.
This one actually looks fun.
It looks super fun.
I have not played the games either.
It is on my list of things to play.
But yeah, I haven't played them.
I hear they're super fun, though.
So do I for two.
I know it's one of my sister's favorite game franchises.
Game franchises, geez.
But no, this actually looks like a lot of fun.
It's very like Kevin Hart's really good.
Actually, I feel he's one of the rare comedians that can actually do serious roles quite well.
Like frickin the upside.
And then that movie that came out on Netflix where he has he's a single dad.
Oh, fatherhood.
Yeah, that's a great movie.
Yeah, that's what I heard.
So he can actually do serious very well.
And so but it's still like a little weird in this one, seeing him like be like the serious
guy.
I know it is going to be very different.
But frickin Kate Blanchett, like she frickin loved her in this trailer.
I'm hoping Jamie Lee Curtis has more to do because I only got a glimpse of her.
But like maybe that's just her character.
She doesn't have a lot to do in the games.
But I mean, I'm happy that Jamie Lee Curtis is in this.
It's frickin awesome.
And then frickin I forget her name.
She was in Barbie.
She's played America for his daughter.
Oh, my gosh, dude, she has been in so much shit lately.
But she's great.
I don't I don't blame Hollywood for casting.
She I loved her in this trailer.
She was I got to look up her name because I can't just like leave her as the old girl
from who played the daughter and Barbie.
Yeah.
So I mean, dude, she was in Barbie.
She played young Soka in the Soka series like she didn't she play young Gamora, too?
Yep.
She played young Gamora.
OK, like she has been in a bunch of shit.
So Ariana Greenblatt.
And she's playing Tiny Tina.
Yeah.
Frickin dude, she like her.
I am DB is frickin ridiculous.
It's frickin crazy.
Like I'm trying to think of or just going through like a Soka.
She played young Soka Tano.
She played Sasha and Barbie.
She played or she voiced Tabitha and the boss baby or the boss baby, too.
She played young Nina in the Heights.
Young Velma in Scoob.
Cool.
Young Gamora.
She played in a bad mom's Christmas.
Like she and then she played.
Oh, that's one episode.
Never mind.
But yeah, she's been in so much frickin shit.
And then.
Yeah.
And then she's playing Tiny Tina in Borderlands.
Like her career has been wild.
Yeah.
And then, of course, you can't forget Jack Black playing Claptrap.
Love that.
That that is that I haven't even played the game and I'm sure I feel even fans would agree
that's just perfect casting.
Jack Black could get cast as frickin anyone and it's perfect casting.
It's true.
I feel the man can do no wrong.
Yeah.
Because even if the movie sucks, he's always one of the biggest standouts for it.
Oh, yeah.
Because even if even if even if he hates the script that I'm sure he doesn't think that
it's going to be good, he still gives it his all and make sure that people are going to
enjoy his performance.
I don't know if he takes roles like that, like ones that he doesn't like.
That's I mean, honestly, now where he has where he is in his career, I don't think that
he has to.
I mean, I like that he can like pick and choose now.
Yeah.
Like, he was very on the fence about like taking on Bowser and it was until they like
talked him into it that he was like, OK, cool.
Like I got it.
All right.
I don't know if it was taking the role of Bowser or if it was singing.
OK.
Like, because he because I think one of the things I think in the interview that I saw,
he was saying like, I am very protective over my like my the music because everything that
I do is kind of tied into what Tenacious D does.
And he says, and I don't want to be like writing some like super cheesy tune unless I really
like it.
And so when they like allowed him to kind of do whatever he wanted with the song, he's
like, all right, cool.
And was able to write something.
He's like, I if I didn't like the song, I wouldn't have done it.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, I'm pumped for this.
I'm very pumped.
As am I.
This has a really good aesthetic.
It does.
Yeah, I really do.
This just looks like a blast at the movies that that that's what I'm getting from this
trailer.
And honestly, nowadays, that's one of the biggest things that you want to actually get
people to go to the movies because unfortunately, a lot of people don't.
Also, and I've said this so many times, theater etiquette sucks nowadays.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
But anyway, let's not get what because that could be a whole episode.
We were getting fumed.
Yeah, that could just be a whole episode just talking us talking about movie theaters dying
in theater etiquette.
That'd be a funny ass tick tock from us, though.
That would be that would be.
So and then so last but not least, we got the first trailer for the Crow remake.
I have not seen the original Crow.
For what happened and may he rest in peace.
That's really, really, really sad what happened on the side of the original Crow.
I'm like kind of scared to bring myself to watching the original.
But I will say that the trailer for this one actually did convince me to not only see this
one because I actually do actually want to check this one out, but I just might actually
like hunker down and watch the original.
I think I'm on the same team.
I think I'm going to watch the original like right before this comes out or like right
before I go see this just so I can have that that side by side comparison.
Yeah.
I mean, this trailer sold me pretty quick.
That's fair.
I think it took me about halfway to really get sold on it.
But like Bill Skarsgard is like freaking killing it in this trailer, literally and figuratively.
Yep.
Yeah.
Freaking he is doing great.
The whole idea also is it's so interesting.
It is like it is a super interesting concept.
And I understand why they might have wanted to remake this.
It's because I think that what they were going for wasn't quite up to the times.
And I feel like that's why a lot of the 80s movies get remade, at least when it comes
to like sci fi action, like because they couldn't do a lot of the stuff that they are able to
do now.
Like they did their best.
Like don't get me wrong.
But like the stuff that they're able to do now, I feel just enhances the action and and
whatnot.
Absolutely agree.
Like I think the one genre that like you don't really need remakes because like literally
what you could do now is you could definitely do in the 80s just because they're so cheap
and easy to do as horror remakes.
Like like some are better than others.
Child's Play is one of the better ones.
But just yeah, like horror movies, I feel never need remakes.
Now not not a lot.
Not not a lot of extra you can add to it.
Like it's not hard to add blood effects to someone being stabbed to death.
It's not hard.
But you could do in the 80s.
You could easily do in the 2000s.
The only like yeah, horror movie you cannot rewrite.
And I think a charm to horror and I think it's something that the horror community really
takes notice of.
It's being able like what you're able to pull off with very limited resources.
Yeah.
So true.
See I don't think like big budget horror movies I don't think do very well.
It's always the lower budget ones that like seem to kick ass.
Yeah.
I'll tell I'm speaking up.
Sorry.
I know we're talking about the crow.
But I'm speaking of horror movies before Ghostbusters before you watch Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
with the trailers.
Did they show the trailer for tarot?
I don't think so.
That actually I'm actually genuinely looking forward to that horror movie.
I'm sure it's not going to be great.
It's like a classic like what they did with Ouija.
Like you know you take like either like a board game or like with tarot you know like
card reading and turn it into a horror movie.
But just freaking like the like the I don't know what it is like the visuals in that movie
and like the the chant that they're saying at the beginning with tarot readings just
like it really sounded cool and I'm actually like really excited for that one.
Very interested in checking that one out.
Yeah I'll have to check that trailer out then.
Yeah no dude yeah I recommend I think I don't know if you'll actually watch it.
Um.
This is a little scary.
I felt bad because this is what kind of sucks about you know Ghostbusters being PG-13 is
you know a lot of parents you know understandable they want to bring their kids to a Ghostbusters
movie.
They grew up with this stuff.
I love that.
That's awesome.
And so for one of my viewings I'm just gonna spoil this right right now guys so we're we're
recording this on the 26th.
I have seen Ghostbusters Frozen Empire every single day since it came out.
So from Thursday to Tuesday I've seen this movie six goddamn times.
But anyway moving past that there for one of my viewings there was a family just like
a couple seats away from me and there was a little girl that was the closest to me.
Like she was for the actual movie she was great.
Didn't seem like anything scared her or anything.
But when they showed the trailer for tarot the mom's like okay close your eyes like multiple
times like are your eyes closed are your eyes closed.
Mom's like yeah that that's a good call like a little girl should not be seeing the shit
that is in this trailer.
Yeah I I was considering taking Iris to go see Ghostbusters but I am kind of glad that
I didn't.
That's fair.
Yes there was a couple like there was a seat we'll get into it but there was a scene that
got me and I was like oh and I'm like yep that would have freaked her the hell out.
Yeah okay well good.
Did you show her afterlife at all by chance?
No I didn't get a chance to.
Okay I was curious.
But getting back to the trailer is on hand.
The crow yeah I mean I don't really have that much to say about it.
Maybe it's just because I'm just going off the trailer I don't have any previous knowledge
about this except for the unfortunate death that happened filming the original which like
I said may he rest in peace.
But I'm intrigued.
I'm definitely intrigued.
I definitely definitely want to want to check this one out.
Yeah like this is definitely one that I want to check out.
Big I'm I like remakes to a certain extent like as long as they're good and again there
has to be a necessity for it.
Like if you're going to try and remake like 16 candles go to hell.
Yeah but like there's some like anything sci-fi or that has some sort of supernatural element
outside of horror movies like I'm all for remakes.
I mean freaking I remember when because I literally I swear they either came out like
a year or two years apart when they've remade they first remade Halloween then came Friday
the 13th then came a nightmare on Elm Street.
I literally was waiting like okay it's got to be child's play next right.
Like child's play has to be next.
But then literally child's play didn't come the remake of child's play didn't come out
to like 10 years later.
Geez it's crazy how long it took them.
But I mean I was okay with that because child's play is one of the better horror remakes.
So yeah it worked out.
But I'm pumped.
Yeah no as am I.
I think that's gonna do it for pleasers teasers unless you got anything else you want to say
about these trailers.
Nope.
Okay well then what do you say we get down to our main event of the evening.
Now that's not it's not that it's not anymore.
Yeah like two freaking years Rose.
Our headliner of the evening which will be our breakdown or oh my god I'm effing this
up.
Want to just just go just just start the intro for it.
All right so before we get into our breakdown of Ghostbusters Frozen Empire Caleb do you
want to let people know how we break down movies on this podcast.
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade.
The eight categories we score our story writing acting character development effects music
costumes and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us a letter
grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade as well as a percentage that
despite what other people may say doesn't quite matter as much but it is really fun
to see where these rank up.
Not pointing fingers.
DJ.
Anyway so yeah if so yeah if you have not seen Ghostbusters Frozen Empire I would I
would this is a hard one to spoil I would say this is one you go for pure enjoyment.
Yeah yeah I can I can definitely agree with that.
And despite that being said if you don't want the movie spoiled for you and you choose to
listen beyond this point it's on you.
Yeah.
So yeah we will be putting our official spoiler warning right here.
So if you listen beyond this point.
Sorry.
Because Rose will be reading the entire synopsis for this film in our favorite segment that
we like to call reading with Rose.
So without further ado Rose.
All right.
In July 1904 New York City.
Wow.
I'm already f'ing this up.
Okay take two.
In July 1904 New York City Fire Department firefighters find over 30 people frozen to
death inside a gentleman's club while a stranger chant while a stranger chant in extinct languages
plays from a phonograph.
The only survivor is a woman in a suit of armor clutching a mysterious orb.
I just want to point out that I freaking love this opening.
This was so freaking great.
It was a pretty freaking sick opening.
Right.
So so good.
All right.
In present in the present day Callie Spangler her boyfriend Gary Gruberson and her children
Trevor and Phoebe have taken up residence in the New York City Firehouse while Trevor
and Phoebe's old friends podcast and Lucky Domingo work with race dance and Winston Zettimore.
After catching the Hell's Kitchen sewer dragon the team faces public backlash and threats
from Mayor Walter Peck a longtime opponent of the Ghostbusters.
To appease Peck Callie suspends the rebellious teenager Phoebe from the field until she is
a legal adult.
Phoebe meets and befriends a ghost named Melody who died in a fire with her own family when
she was 16 years old.
Ray and podcast have been collecting cursed objects objects and raise occult books.
One patron Nadim Rasmati sells Ray the orb which belonged to his late grandmother.
When Ray tests its PKE levels.
Excuse me.
The orb unleashes a psychic charge that damages the wall around the firehouse's ecto containment
unit.
Oh God.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I'm good.
Yeah.
I think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
Which okay.
I'm just going to start that sentence over again.
So the orb unleashes a psychic charge that damages the wall around the firehouse's ecto
containment unit which is dangerously close to capacity.
Winston and Lucky introduce the Spanglers to Winston's privately owned paranormal research
center where despite having reverse engineered Egon Spangler's ecto containment technology
into a machine that can extract spiritual energy.
Dr. Lars Penfield is unable to pull anything from the from said herb the orb.
God I'm feeling this.
Trevor Penfield and Lucky visit Nadim and discover the hidden brass line chamber where
Nadim's grandmother stored the orb.
Or as we like to call it the sex dungeon.
Dude that little boat was hilarious.
If this was a sex dungeon would you have chains hanging down.
Yes.
Yes you would.
Yeah.
Right into that man.
A psychological evaluation by Peter Venkman reveals that Nadim has late Latin pyrokinetic
powers.
Lucky visits Phoebe at the firehouse where she takes special interest in the containment
union.
Oh my god what the hell is wrong with me.
Unit.
That was a classic reading with Rose.
Yeah.
So this week.
Unbeknownst to Phoebe Melody is manipulating her on behalf of the trapped entity from the
orb.
Ray Phoebe and podcast visit Dr. Hubert Wartsky.
I don't know yeah because they never say his name in the movie so I just got to make sure
I got that right.
Wartsky at the New York Public Library where he explains that the orb was meant to imprison
a demonic god Garaka who sought to conquer their dimension with his ability to telepathically
control ghosts and to lower temperatures to absolute zero when feeding upon negative emotions
like fear.
Garaka was trapped after a battle with four sorcerers the fire masters thousands of years
ago by exploiting exploiting his weaknesses on fire and brass.
Where he was briefly freed later by the Manhattan Adventure Society in 1904 killing them before
being recaptured by one of the fire masters descendants Nadine's grandmother.
The library had the library had archived the phonograph cylinder recording of the club's
ritual a poltergeist known as the possessor attempts to seal the cylinder which Phoebe
destroyed during the ensuing chase.
In response to the Ghostbusters again damaging the city's properties Peck seizes the firehouse
and impounds their original equipment.
Phoebe runs away from her family to see Melody and deliberately turns herself into a ghost
for two minutes with the lab's extraction machine so that she and Melody can physically
interact but Melody reveals that she agreed to free Garaka from his prison in exchange
for passage to the afterlife.
However she is unaware that Garaka was only using her by forcing Phoebe to recite the
rituals chant Garaka escapes his prison and freezes the city.
Realizing that Garaka intends to free the ghosts from the containment unit to rebuild
his army the Ghostbusters gather to defend their headquarters with new gear while Nadine
does his grandmother's brass armor dawn I'm sorry dawns his grandmother's brass armor
and practices his pyro canness can nances to help them.
When Garaka arrives he easily overwhelms the Ghostbusters and breaks the containment unit
unit freeing the captured ghosts.
Phoebe reconfigures her proton pack with brass like alloy making Garaka vulnerable to its
stream.
Realizing her mistake Melody turns on Garaka and helps Phoebe and Nadine restrain him while
Ray reconfigures the unit to trap the god.
Helping the Ghostbusters allows Melody to ascend to the afterlife and she reconciles with Phoebe
before joining her family.
City thaws and they hailed the Ghostbusters as heroes despite Peck threatening to shut
the Ghostbusters down.
They coerce him into supporting the team and reinstating Phoebe.
The Ghostbusters begin pursuing the escaped ghosts including the sewer dragon, Slimer
and the mini-puffs.
Hell yeah.
They might really struggle though.
Oh man.
I mean we got through it.
That's true.
Powered through.
Oh man.
This was an interesting movie.
Like honestly I don't know if I would put this any higher or lower than the first one.
Like afterlife or the original Ghostbusters?
No afterlife.
Oh okay.
Yeah I'm honestly like the same way.
I feel what benefits this one whereas afterlife I feel is a slow burn which is a good thing
like freaking love afterlife.
This one it's like a freaking roller coaster because it is just you're just like the two
hours that this movie is or like almost two hours it just flies by because it is story
beat after story beat after story.
You are moving so fast through the story and that's not it's not a bad thing because everything
makes complete sense like there's nothing bad about that.
And I feel it's clear.
Did you watch the cartoon at all as a kid?
The real Ghostbusters?
No.
Okay so Gil Kennan the director of this movie said he took inspiration from that and for
how I feel that this one can be it feels like a little different than the other Ghostbusters
movies or at least like the ones that are in the original canon not ignoring the 2016
one.
I completely get where he's coming from that because yeah this definitely felt like a prolonged
episode of the real Ghostbusters which freaking loved.
That was freaking great.
And I feel what this what I feel that this movie does very well is not only filling you
with nostalgia for the original Ghostbusters but also still giving time for these new characters.
Now like some definitely don't get as much time to do stuff as they did in Afterlife.
Definitely looking at podcast and Lucky which is unfortunate because freaking love those
two characters in that movie but for where they take them it makes sense it works and
you know they couldn't just delete them out of the movie it kind of would have been weird
if you bring back all the Spanglers but Lucky and podcast are kind of just left in the dust
but I feel that it does a great I feel it does a really good job about balancing both
the new characters and the classic characters.
Some more than others like with like OG characters I wish that Venkman got more to do but then
you get like characters that I feel like they dive into like very much emotionally and you
like love me even more.
I'm looking at freaking Ray Dan Ercord's character Ray Stans.
I love everything that they do with this character in this movie.
Freaking makes me love him even more like like what where they take his character in
this movie.
I'm just like yeah that is the reason why he's been my favorite Ghostbuster ever since
I watched the first movie as a kid.
This movie just does a lot right when it comes to Ghostbusters.
Don't run there are some problems there I do have my biggest problem with being one
character and I know Caleb actually liked him I just found him annoying as hell.
I'm sorry just Nadim oh my god Kumail Najani's character the fire master part of like half
of the first half of the movie I was fine with him.
It's just when he actually like became the fire master and like you know all of his training
and like the ending battle with him I just found annoying as hell.
I didn't find it funny but not just like overall like the story I think did a really good job
incorporating the old and new cast and freaking it was great being back in New York.
Dude I totally agree.
You could tell who wanted to be there and we're talking I'm talking about the original
cast.
Unfortunately it was very apparent like okay he freaking phoned it in because he didn't
want to be there but Dan Aykroyd I mean Dan Aykroyd wrote the Ojib Ghostbusters.
Even Harold Raymond did right so it's like yeah this is freaking Dan Aykroyd's baby.
They call him the unofficial cheerleader of the Ghostbusters and yeah that's really what
he is.
And then for Ernie Hudson he felt like he was having a good time too and then Annie
Potts.
All of them all the OGs felt like they were having a really good time.
It was like infectious the only one that didn't feel like he was having fun was Bill Murray.
I think like I hope like maybe because so Bill Murray has said that the only way that
he comes back to these movies is if he feels that the story is right or if his character
makes sense and honestly I'm sure it's also like the payday that he gets.
Yeah it's the payday and I bet it's because someone uses guilt on him about Harold Ramis.
Yeah and like if that's the case that does make me sad because I wish that Venkman was
in this more because it's unfortunate there's literally only two scenes with Venkman.
One when he's interrogating Command Nanjiani's character and then the final fight when they're
all there.
So it's really sad that that's all you see whereas Annie Potts, Dan Aykroyd and Harold
Ramis, I'm sorry not Harold Ramis rest in peace, Ernie Hudson are in it throughout.
Like they actually have a huge part into not only moving the story along but affecting
the new characters.
Bill Murray unfortunately just doesn't and it makes me sad.
Yeah especially since he it's like he was involved like I thought he was going to be
way more involved once they brought him in after the I guess an interrogation of Kumail's
character.
Yeah.
Like I was like okay well now he's in it but then it's just like he just randomly shows
up like oh you weren't going to show up to the final battle?
Like that's odd.
I wouldn't have even been fine if he was just kind of like in the background not really
doing anything.
As long as he was there it just he was noticeably absent.
Yeah and what I noticed or the fact that you know he works at the the Proton not the wow
the let's just call it the new Ghostbusters lab that Winston created.
The fact that he works there that he helps out there he has his own office.
I'm very shocked that he didn't go along with Lars and Lucky when they all met up at the
firehouse.
Yeah.
Like that would that would have made complete sense if he just tagged along with them.
Yeah it totally would have.
Overall dude but this movie had a really solid flow to it.
I feel like there were definitely some slow parts so I mean it's not perfect by any stretch
of the imagination.
Yeah.
But where are you sitting with this story?
I don't know if I'm in the 90s.
I don't think I've cracked.
Yeah like don't like don't be wrong like I love the story.
I mean honestly it's very rare for me to like not love any Ghostbusters story because I
just love that this franchise is still going and it makes me very very happy.
But story wise like it's good it moves at a fast pace but just like I will admit I think
maybe after life story might have been just like a little bit better.
So story wise I think I'm sitting on 86.
Oh man I had to mute myself on that one.
That one was loud.
For those of you not watching the video I sneezed.
I am actually right at 86 with you.
Oh damn.
Yeah.
It wasn't perfect but it was really well done.
Like I said it had some issues here and there.
I'd say the biggest being with Phoebe.
I think her character kind of brought the pace down a little bit but I did like her
her story though.
Yeah I feel for these new Ghostbusters movies Phoebe's character arc is always the best
part.
I mean not only is Mena Kenna Grace is amazing in this role just I feel that they do try
to do her character justice.
They really try to show that she truly was Egon Spangler's granddaughter and I freaking
love that because you see so much of him in her.
Yeah.
All right moving on over to writing this is I think the movie excels at.
Oh dude absolutely.
Holy shit was this so well written.
Yeah.
The humor was on point.
So so good like oh my god.
Like on a basis because I love so much seeing the OG cast interact with the new the new
cast but like there are just so many well written moments like the freaking the interaction
between Venkman and Nadim when he's interviewing him and he just like keeps throwing the pins
at him.
He's just like oh no this is part of the test.
That shit was freaking hilarious.
That hurt.
Yes did it hurt.
Love that shit.
Everything with with Ray like I said with like the like the story of Ray and the writing
of Ray was just so freaking good.
They're like when after they go to the public library and you know like there's a whole
fiasco and everything Winston is talking to Ray be like you know you could have gotten
those kids killed.
You could have gotten yourself killed.
These are supposed to be our golden years.
You're supposed to be enjoying life living it up you know take a vacation and just the
look on Ray's face when he's just like Winston this is what I want to do.
This is what I love.
Like Ray cannot get.
Ray doesn't never wants to give up his love for the paranormal.
And I like like they're like actually like moments with Ray like I actually like like
smile with him in this movie.
And it's one of the biggest points is when after Phoebe gets benched from Cali and they
go out on a call and Ray sees the Ecto-1 fly by his his shop and you see him just like
smile like remembering the old days.
I couldn't help stop a smile because it freaking just takes you back to the original and how
much he just loved researching the paranormal.
He loved being a ghost buster.
He misses it.
And so just that that interaction between Winston and Ray one of my favorite moments
in the whole movie.
That was a great moment.
And then when he's just like golden years and these golden years.
Like I freaking cheer.
Right.
Yeah.
So good.
Damn right son.
Oh man.
It's just so many great like Paul Rudd's writing was so great.
Also.
Oh my gosh dude.
He had my two favorite jokes in it.
All right.
Let's see.
So my first one was like oh shit.
I'm I'm drawing a blank.
Yes.
Damn it.
I'm thinking about it too.
It's when it's when like him and our Phoebe and her mom are like basically fighting with
each other and she's like you like you watch your words very carefully and you see her
hesitate and then they're walking downstairs and Paul Rudd's just like I didn't know she
knew those words.
Like those are my favorite little bits dude because it could have easily gone the other
way and could have just played like they still could have had a joke but I don't think it
would have nearly been as funny.
And then I and then again like the later like the same deal when they're talking to the
mayor and they're just like all right well you can either like like you can either like
go peacefully or you can get arrested and then you see the unlock in her handcuffs and
he's like really thought you were going to go peacefully.
Dude.
Like so fun.
Paul Rudd's character was a gem.
Dude seriously like two of my favorite parts that just stand out at the beginning when
they're in Peck's office and he's just like well do you do you employ Phoebe do you employ
this minor.
He's like oh no no we don't pay her.
Oh okay so we can add child labor laws to the to the to the list.
That frickin when he's talking with Janine and she says oh I'll talk to Winston's engineers
and he's like oh one more thing are they working on a super secret underground ghost busting
stuff and the way she's like yeah that's right Gary super secret underground ghost busting
stuff.
Oh dude his god he was a gem.
I mean there's so many funny moments in this movie like that and also his interact first
interaction with Lars when he's just like oh does that help you hear the ghost when
he's like examining the containment unit and he pulls down his headphones like no what
helps me hear the ghost is silence.
I love when they're just like so how do we like rebuild the containment unit and that
dude's just like what do you mean and he looks at them he's like what do you mean what do
I mean.
Yeah it's like no trev Trevor literally pointed out like just build a new one like what else
is there to say.
My other favorite bits was how what's Finn Wolfheart's characters.
Trevor Trevor I loved how Trevor was treated because he kept throwing like oh I'm 18 I'm
an adult and then I love how his mom treated him and he's like mom like like those ceilings
weird and she's like wow well you're an adult you can fix it right and he's like yeah I
can fix it and then he goes and just grabs some equipment runs back upstairs like that's
hilarious dude like that's exactly how I want to treat my kids with they're like pulling
the whole I'm 18.
That's like cool you're an adult you can act like it.
Yeah.
Oh man.
Yeah my favorite shit dude I love when they like those little bits of funny are so good.
Dude just loved it so much.
Yeah it's so well written.
Yeah.
I mean every joke I'd say other than maybe like a couple hit with me in some way shape
or form.
Yeah.
Like hell I even like the one where what's her face the ghost freaking like she appears
after like they're playing like when she's playing chess with Phoebe and she's like you
know I'm a ghost right and she's like yeah kind of figure I love that whole thing by
himself I know I love that whole interaction.
Yeah dude the face when she's just like do you want me to walk away and come back and
you know act scared.
Dude Phoebe's sass was unmatched.
So so good like I feel bad for for Callie throughout this movie because like there's
one point when she's like yeah well this is my calling you just decided to be a ghost
buster.
Yeah.
Like like yeah like damn.
Dude you know what line freaking hit like a rock.
The if you weren't a spangler you'd be answering our phones.
I'm like dude.
Yeah like yeah dude that freaking yeah that like damn.
But I really love what these these new movies do with the writing and just the fact that
they truly showcase that anyone can be a ghost buster because I mean you know Callie Trevor
Phoebe makes sense you know with them being descendants of Egon Spangler it makes complete
sense but I love that you know freaking Paul Rudd is a ghost buster in this and then the
branching off into a new paranormal research center with you know Lucky helping with that
Lars being the head in command with that just I love how much they build on how big the
ghost busters brand can be in this movie because in the original Venkman says the franchise
wrote rights alone will make us millions and he's not wrong like I just I love seeing the
shit I love so much when they point out that anyone can be a ghost buster it makes me so
happy.
Yeah dude I want to get one of the the engineering patch.
Dude right.
That would be so yeah dude I do too.
I also love that the the the engineer jumpsuits are the same color as the ghost busters two
ones the the navy blue ones I loved that I felt that was a nice nod.
It was a good touch it was a really nice touch.
I don't know about you I'm I'm I'm in the 90s with this I'm probably sitting around
93 though I'm not like super high but I am fairly high.
I think it's gonna be one point higher than you had at 94.
All right.
All right next up moving on over to acting going through this cast we have McKenna Grace
this is a friggin stacked cast.
Yeah or like a lot of people like we actually had to leave people out like well acknowledge
them but like there's a lot of people in this movie.
Yeah so McKenna Grace plays Phoebe Spangler Paul Rudd plays Gary Gruberson.
Finn Wolfhard plays Trevor Spangler.
Carrie Kuhn plays Callie Spangler.
Dan Aykroyd plays Ray Stantz.
Ernie Hudson plays Winston Zeddemore.
Is it Zedmore or Zeddemore?
Zeddemore.
Okay.
Bill Murray plays Peter Venkman.
Annie Potts plays Janine Melnitz.
James Acaster plays Lars Penfield.
Kumail Nanjiani plays Nadim.
Maserati I think.
Yeah Maserati.
No it's not Maserati it's not a freaking car name.
I forgot to pronounce his last name.
Dude him I freaking love Kumail Nanjiani like him coming down in like the ancient armor
was hilarious.
See I didn't find that funny.
I feel I feel I'm like probably one of the only people that didn't fully enjoy his performance.
Honestly I feel that I am and I love Kumail like I freaking love the guy but like only
half of this movie did I enjoy him.
Like freaking the beginning when he first comes into Ray's store and he's you know like
you know Ray's taking like the he's like looking at it he's taking the PKE measurements of
it and like all the shit happens like you know he breaks Ray's display case.
New York starts getting frozen over and Ray's just like oh my gosh you know like psychokinetic
discharge literally saying all this stuff and Kumail just has to be he took the words right
out of my mouth.
Like that that was that was funny like that was good.
I think like honestly I think what ruined it for me was when I think what part I didn't
like him was when the final battle started probably when he no no no was when he find
out found finds out that he's the fire master and he's practicing because I have some problems
with that because there is there is a part when he's practicing being a fire master and
being able to take a flame and move it to a candle.
You know that that that's cool makes sense but then later on there is a part where Trevor
is about to get blasted by a proton stream because the possessor ghost takes over Lucky's
proton pack and so you know like about to say bye bye to Trevor but then as the proton
stream is coming out Nadim is able to project it outside the window which makes no damn
sense because a proton stream is not fire.
It like so that's a plot hole for me.
Like what what is it tech is it a plasma.
Yeah yeah it's it's it's psychokinetic energy.
I don't yeah I don't know if that technically is enough of a it's a burnt like.
The most it is it's a burning substance.
Yeah I mean it is fire.
I'm going to put this up real quick.
I'm with my or a plasma.
Fire it's a plasma.
Son of a bitch.
God damn it.
OK well.
Plasma is the emission of light and heat.
Son of a bitch.
So it's so fire.
Gotcha son of a bitch.
OK I can't say anything.
All right.
Not a plot not a plot hole.
OK never mind.
God damn it.
Do my plot hole with that like like trust me I have my issues with that like him him
redirecting the plasma was not the biggest issue I had.
Mine was like OK you were just struggling to light a candle.
Yeah.
Like what what's up with that dude.
I want to know you know.
Now you're going full blown like fire bender.
OK so it's sorry it's not psychokinetic energy I thought it was.
I'm sorry.
So it says a proton stream is a stream of positively charged ions which can harness
a ghost.
The proton stream is a very dangerous and barely control is very dangerous and barely
controllable.
Egon has also mentioned that crossing proton streams will result in total proton reversal
causing all life as we know it to stop instantaneously and even molecule in a user's body to explode
at the speed of light.
OK so it's it's so it's it's positively charged ions.
That's what it is.
OK.
My bad.
Sounds like a plasma to me.
Yeah.
God damn it.
I'm fired.
I don't think I can call myself a huge Ghostbusters fan anymore for that.
So apologize to Kamel.
I'm sorry Kamel.
Here's my go.
Here's my Ghostbusters fan card.
There you go.
All right.
So what's your top three.
I have a feeling I know what it is but.
Well so really good.
I just want to point out so we didn't include lucky who is Celeste O'Connor podcast Logan
Kim and then Patton Oswalt who played the the librarian just because like they like
lucky and podcasts were in it enough but just we felt that they didn't like fully affect
the story as much as some of these other characters and Patton Oswalt was it wasn't in it that
much.
He was great.
Don't even wrong.
Loved him in it but just wasn't enough to warrant him being on the acting slides.
I am writing down what I think your top three is.
OK.
Because I feel like I'm that confident in it.
OK.
So do you want me to go three to one or one to one to three.
Let's go one to three.
I.
Who am I going to throw.
It's a coin flip.
I'm going to write both of them down because I feel it is it could be a coin flip.
OK.
All right.
You ready.
Ready.
OK.
Number.
God damn it.
Number one son of a bitch.
What the hell.
My computer is being stupid.
All right.
Number one.
I'm giving a Dan Aykroyd.
Nailed it.
Caleb knows me so well.
Yeah.
Freaking he once again knocked it out of the park of this care knocked it out of the park
is this character like I said earlier on Ray has been my favorite Ghostbuster ever since
I saw the original as a kid and he has remained my favorite Ghostbuster and always will.
And I just love Dan Aykroyd so much in this role.
He he I didn't think that you could add more to this character but they did it and they
did it flawlessly him with you know how he wants to spend his golden years and that scene
with Winston and just how just yeah that yeah I don't I didn't take that anywhere but just
yeah his acting is so great here.
He truly loves this character and I love seeing him on screen.
This movie reminded me why Ray Stantz is my favorite Ghostbuster and if we do get a sequel
and I know that I swear that there have been talks about it.
I really hope that the OGs come back for one more go around because I want to see Ray Stantz
at least one more time on the big screen.
So so he is my number one and will always be my favorite Ghostbuster.
Number two I would give to McKenna Grace played Phoebe.
Yeah dude you're good.
I love it.
She was fantastic just as good as she was in the in Ghostbusters Afterlife.
I just I love her betrayal of this character and just her love for for science and just
how much you see of Egon in her it's just so great and her her sassy sarcastic comments
are just so amazing throughout and I really liked her relationship with Melody the ghost
that I feel that that that was actually a really good storyline really really enjoyed
that.
For number three I think that I'm going to give it to Paul Rudd son of a bitch.
Damn dude freaking nailed it.
Damn he's good.
In the exact freaking order too.
Yeah I don't know why I put I don't know why I put Ernie's name first.
Yeah.
He was the one that I was like struggling with but I figured it was it was either going
to be Rudd or it was going to be Ernie.
Fair.
Damn dude you know me so well.
Oh man yeah Paul Rudd fantastic in this movie.
I love seeing him as the one that's just like he's happy he's just happy that he's here.
He's so happy that he gets to be a Ghostbuster and throughout just seeing him like geek over
all of this stuff and just I loved it like just seeing him just especially also interacting
with like the OG's like him starting to see seeing a version of Home on the Range with
Ray that was just so great but then they didn't know where else to take it.
That was great.
Yeah just he was freaking great.
I loved Paul Rudd.
It more I think I loved him more in this one than I did in Afterlife.
I thought he was even better in this one.
Same.
And just also like the freaking like him like not trying to say that he's their dad but
like also trying to be there for Trevor and Phoebe especially Phoebe loved that for character
moments that was that was great.
Yeah I really like that.
If I did have to give like probably fourth and fifth.
Yeah fourth.
I don't know fourth is like a toss up between Ernie Hudson and oh my god what's his name
James Acaster because I freaking loved him in this.
I didn't know anything about him until this movie.
I don't think I've seen anything else that he's been in but I just loved his dry witted
sense of humor.
He was great.
He was actually a really fun character.
I thought he was going to play like cannon fodder for the Ghostbusters.
I'm like OK like he's not making it.
Yeah I am sad that he did.
Yeah I do wish that he was involved in the final fight.
It sucks that he got frozen upstairs.
I mean it tracks though.
They had so many characters to focus on like that's true.
It makes sense that they had a freeze some off.
Yeah that's true.
So I'd say let's put four Winston or Ernie Hudson and then I'd probably I'd put I'd put
him five.
But all right let's do yours.
Mine isn't too dissimilar from yours.
I am going to give McKenna Grace top spot.
Even though she was the reason for some of the slower parts I don't think that's necessarily
her fault.
I think that's just the the writing or more of a story issue than anything.
OK I'm giving her my number one.
My number two I'm going to be giving to Paul Rudd.
I think he was just a gem of a man.
I freaking love him.
Like it just felt like Paul Rudd just showed up to set with no script.
Like that's that's the vibes he put off that he was just like like the only scripted stuff
was the stuff where it was like trying to be the family man.
Yeah.
That's the only stuff that felt scripted.
Everything else just felt like genuine Paul Rudd interactions and I loved every second
of it.
My number three I actually struggled choosing one.
I was between Kumail and who I actually picked.
Annie Potts.
I thought she was such a high point.
I loved her in this.
A little bummed that we didn't get the classic like Ghostbusters what do you want?
And it sucks to have that scene in the trailers.
Like she actually did genuinely film that shit but wasn't in the movie.
I know so bummed out that we didn't get that from her but I did love the gag with it where
Phoebe answered the phone and she's like Ghostbusters.
Like she's struggling.
She sat there for like a while and she's like do I do it?
Dude I love in that scene when they show up at the diner and the ladies just like are you
here for the ghost and podcast just like holds up the trap and Phoebe just points to the
symbol on her outfit.
Yeah no shit.
Dude like I said the freaking sass was unmatched.
So good.
It's fantastic.
So yeah I'm giving it to Annie Potts.
I love her so much.
Yeah and the fact that she got to it makes me so happy that she got to actually like
suit up and wear a uniform in this one.
That just made me so happy.
Dude so good.
What are you given acting?
Like I feel acting strong across the board even for like the characters that didn't have
that much to do and despite my problems with some of his character towards the end, Kumail
Nanjiani does do a really good job with what he's given.
So what he was sorry what he's given.
So I don't have any problem with his acting.
So yeah you know acting I think I'm gonna be at a 95.
Oh damn.
I'm being a little harsher on it.
I don't think the extras improved it that much and I don't think this was like top form
for anyone but I'm still fairly high.
I'm like 87.
Okay.
Damn that's a huge difference.
I know it's a wild difference.
But that's okay.
Yeah.
Anyway next up we got character development which this could easily be done on Phoebe.
Yeah.
I think it could be done on the Spanglers as a whole honestly.
That's true.
That is very true.
I mean think about Phoebe.
I loved her character arc throughout like yeah like it definitely leads to like some
of those slower moments throughout and I know a lot of people point out well the decision
that she makes to change into a ghost just to be able to interact with Melody is stupid
and that's how Grokka is able to get out.
But the fact that Phoebe like carrying on from the first one you can tell that she has
struggled with relationships to make friends all this stuff.
And so the fact that she would be willing to do this as she wants to do this just to
have just two minutes of interaction with someone that actually gets her that someone
that understands her.
I don't think it's out of character at all.
It made sense for Phoebe.
I would agree with that.
Like especially coming off of the first film or the I mean after life you could tell she
was looking for some sort of connection and she had it with like I don't or I don't know
if she necessarily found it until she became a Ghostbuster or started getting into that
life.
I mean yeah she was interacting with like podcast and stuff but he was just I think
he was in it for the content that he was getting not necessarily because of Phoebe.
Yeah I mean I do appreciate that in this movie there are moments that you do see that they
are actually still good friends.
Yeah.
Which I appreciate.
But I mean you just have the world together that's bound to happen.
Yeah that's true.
That's very true.
But it was the same thing with Trevor and Lucky.
Yeah but I mean you saw that she kind of has more like a more of a connection with the
paranormal kind of where where Ray was.
Same thing with the original Spangler.
Like it's just kind of that vibe.
She connected like she had that connection with no shit.
What's his what's Spangler's first name?
Egon.
Yeah so she kind of had that connection with Egon even though it wasn't necessarily like
as direct as like the ghost form I guess.
And so it makes sense that she made friends with another ghost.
The only thing that kind of confuses me is why she went to go set up a chessboard in
the first place.
Like was she just going to play against herself?
Or I think maybe she was hoping that Egon.
What I would assume is she was hoping that Egon would show up.
If that's the case I wish that they would have made that a little bit more obvious.
No I agree because I mean in Afterlife that's how you know she discovers Egon as you know
him moving the chess pieces.
And so oh okay I completely forgot about that.
So yeah when she goes to play chess like that's what I thought is that she was just hoping
that Egon would appear.
And so she could have that interaction with her grandfather.
The one person that actually understands her.
And so but of course you know oh my god Melody right?
I think so yeah.
But of course Melody shows up instead and that turns into a whole other story.
But I mean it tracks like where she has more of a connection with ghosts and I felt like
that was kind of a nod because didn't in the real Ghostbusters wasn't Egon a ghost?
No.
No?
Uh huh.
Okay maybe it was just a toy that I saw then.
It might have been there is a scene or there's one episode where it takes place like right
after Ghostbusters 2.
Or no is it?
No it might have been the first one actually.
It's like after they're done fighting Stay Puft and like all of the site like the psychokinetic
energy is still on their clothes.
And so they intend to throw them away like burn them but they forget.
And so they're like it soaks up a lot of energy and actually they become like ghost Ghostbusters.
And so it's an episode of the living Ghostbusters having to fight their evil ghost versions
of Ghostbusters.
Okay.
Yeah.
Maybe that's what I was saying.
Okay.
That's one of my favorite episodes.
Yeah I mean I feel like she did go through a pretty decent arc.
Wasn't the best in the world but I mean name a Ghostbusters movie that does have a good
character arc.
That is fair.
I will definitely give you that.
Yeah.
So this one I'm fairly on the more average side with.
I'm probably sitting at like maybe an 82.
It was good but it wasn't like groundbreaking.
Yeah.
I think that her interactions with Melody and just for how much of a connection I felt
that they had I think that just brings me up a little higher than you.
So I'll go an 84.
Okay.
I do if it's all right with you I am going to change my acting score just because I feel
that I'm a little too high honestly now that I'm thinking about it.
So I'm going to put it on the same level.
You know I'm going to put it down to a 93.
Okay so sorry.
Nope you're good.
We haven't submitted them yet.
That true.
All right next up we got effects.
These are so good.
They were damn good dude.
I was getting like I don't know about you.
I was getting hints of like they were trying to mimic the 80s style with some of the cinematography.
Yeah.
No I agree.
I definitely saw that too.
Like there's some like significant like scene like especially like the wide city wide scenes
that I was like that feels very like very much like an 80s scene.
Yeah.
I think it was just a small little thing like it wasn't that much but it was just like okay.
There was one there was one part that I'm just like why does it look different colored
and it's and I finally realized that on my like second route my second watch I was like
duh Jonathan's because like the the lighting of the ice and how it's like iced over inside
it's when they all shoot their proton streams at a Garaka it like the orange is the orange
and blue are a lot lighter than I feel that we're usually used to but it made sense for
like all the ice being surrounded by them and like it like the way that it's reflecting
it made sense why it was a little differently colored.
Yeah.
Speaking of like since you just brought that up why the hell did was Phoebe the only person
that frickin coated her proton pack with bronze.
Uh that is an excellent question.
I would have at least thought Ray would also have done that considering that she's the
one that she he's the one that she talks to about it.
Dude any other Ghostbuster it didn't matter who it was it's just more than one.
Yeah.
Like yeah you had lucky telling you hey my proton pack was useless and so guess what
now you have five of them guess what I bet they are all useless.
I gotta say though I loved all the new additions to the pack like the new packs looked badass.
The new packs were sick and I loved uh Janine's new like gauntlet.
Yeah dude I love yeah frickin Janine and Lucky uh used one of those I feel bad Lucky's proton
pack got destroyed.
Yeah.
Frickin podcast but it made sense.
Very sick though I uh love the the ghost trap on the drone.
Oh dude dude frickin that opening with that.
Oh my god dude frickin when the Ecto-1 anytime that the Ecto-1 is just flying down the streets
in New York I just have the biggest grin on my face.
Dude I was the same way like I loved like the the the intro intro with like the old
timey scene like that was frickin terrifying and I was like perfect setup and then it's
immediate action with the new Ghostbusters and I'm like digging it and then just there's
just something about the the Ecto-1 like screaming down the street that's just like you said
it's it's frickin infectious fun.
Yeah it really is and the fact that uh they added gunner seat to that which was one of
the best additions that they added to the Ecto-1 in Afterlife that just makes flying
through New York City that much more fun because god I loved it.
Yeah man I I was having a blast with that like that whole sequence was just a frickin
gem um but yeah I can't like um one of the things I wanted to talk about the going back
to practical Slimer ingenious.
Oh yeah.
Oh my gosh he looked so good.
Yeah I did oh god.
Dude when I saw like that they went practical with him I was like oh shit like it caught
me off guard because like all you see is like what is it his hand you see first or like
part of his face.
So in the at the first time Trevor sees him you only see his face first and then he wakes
up the second time is yeah you see his hand first when he's trying to grab the Cheetos.
Right okay yeah I just want to make sure I got that straight but seeing his face and
seeing it being like a practical effect I was like oh like it it stunned me I was like
oh shit because I was expected like okay they're going like another like CGI Slimer being lame
but like how he looked in 2016.
Yeah and I was like I was I was like I knew it was Slimer the second it was like the green
goop yeah and I was like okay cool and then seeing it practical just made me so frickin
happy same here so I mean there are very few things to complain about on the effects.
So so good.
The only thing I didn't care for I didn't like the design of the big bad.
Really I loved the design of Grokka.
I don't like the elongated faces it just makes it too cartoony yeah I would have preferred
more like zombified like I don't know like it they made it seem like it was a very super
natural beat well duh it's a frickin ghost but like in like with the story it felt like
it was more like a person that just obtained some power and I don't think it like really
dismorphed him like I don't know I just didn't wasn't digging the elongated super tall stature
like I think it would have been like I like the idea of him being like big yeah but I
don't know if like that is the elongated face that was wasn't doing it for me I would have
preferred something a little bit more classic demonic if they were gonna go with the horns
and everything like I would have even thought like instead of horns like because I mean
the sequence where he's put the horns back in was gross dude yeah it was just about to
point that out like that like I think that they could have done something along those
lines where like if you want to keep the horns keep the horns I don't understand why the
horns frickin change shape yeah I'm like okay so your horn like they pulled your horns
out and then they just kind of like droop to like I guess so I had I had a few quite
a few issues with him the other ghosts I was fine with I liked seeing the the library ghost
she scared the shit out of me dude that was such a dude speaking of callbacks the live
the library ghosts that was great and then freaking when they first get to the library
the guy that stops raised just like dr. shits you can't come within 50 feet of here dude
I almost I almost lost it the first time I saw this because that's the guy that originally
calls them in the first one to come to the library for the gray lady or the library ghost
but yeah the fact that he tries to stop him is so great oh that was yeah that was so good
oh my gosh yeah I I'm pretty high on the effects probably sitting around where I was sitting
with the writing sitting at like a 93 effects wise I am going to say that I think that deserves
a 95 fair enough what about music on the other hand the music music was good like nothing
like if it felt like a classic Ghostbusters soundtrack like they definitely I feel took
tracks from Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2 which that's great that's awesome you know
of course you get the classic theme at the end which I I love like that always makes
me happy that that's how they usually end I think that's how they have ended both of
these new movies that afterlife ended that way and now frozen empire and you can't help
but smile when you hear Ray Parker jr.'s Ghostbusters song like it's it's it's so
iconic it's it gets you so hyped and just it's so great yeah I was afraid that they
were going to do some bullshit like do a remix of it I'm so glad they kept it already oh
I am too don't even touch that yeah that'd be blasphemy yeah I mean but that's that's
the only real song that stood out to me no honestly same here the there's that like you
said that like you like I know I recognized certain tracks from Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters
2 and I always love that the once you the Ghostcore logo logo logo logo pops up at the
beginning you always get the classic da da da there and just leads into like the the
I think it's like the track from the first Ghostbusters that they start with which is
great but yeah it's it's um while I love Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack like nothing
like truly jumps out at you unless I feel that you remember those soundtracks like by
heart like you you you recognize those sounds instantly this is a tough one for me I I'm
like I I'm personally probably at like an eight I can I'm closer to like an eight and
a half so it's like if you want it like what would you want to give it I was actually an
eight and eight okay yeah if you're giving it an eight I'll give it an eight I if you
felt that it was deserving of a nine I would have gone up to a nine all right just because
I was so in the middle no no all right costumes on the other hand amazing um personally I'm
giving these a ten I am absolutely giving it a ten yes because not only do you get the
classic gray jumpsuits you get the frickin ones that they wear at the research lab that
I feel are a callback to the Ghostbusters 2 ones that they were in that one scene where
their navy blue um oh god yeah the oh my god just every single time that I see a jumpsuit
on screen I want one so bad but I'm like not willing to spend like over to like get one
that is screen accurate and like actually get you know the patch with your last name
on it you're gonna spend over two hundred dollars and yeah and it's like I I love Ghostbusters
but I don't know if I want to shell out two hundred dollars for something I would only
wear to like cons if and I never even go to cons so it would honestly depend how often
you went that's fair but I mean I don't think it'd be a horrible idea if you wanted to join
like the Ghostbusters in Utah yeah I don't even know hi I don't even know how you become
a recruit of that we Google it how do you join to Ghostbusters of your state Ghostbuster
in Utah yeah it just says you can join them at or follow them on on a on Facebook and
Instagram damn it's not the same I want to be a Ghostbusters of Salt Lake well go to
freaking go to a con okay all right okay like if you go to a freaking comic-con then like
I go and talk to the people be like hey what do I got to do like go and dress up and like
whatever outfit you have yeah and then like go and talk to them just be like hey I'm interested
in becoming of a Ghostbuster or like joining your your gang like what do I have to do okay
I'm trying to see if there's yeah they okay they have a web no they don't no that's freaking
dumb their their website is just a link to the Facebook page dumb yeah yeah I'm not seeing
anything on their page it says like it there's no join us page damn but I mean they go and
do a bunch of events like I don't think it'd be hard to join them like I I would highly
doubt it gives me an excuse to break out my new proton pack okay cool yeah like why not
like they seem like cool people like comic-con people are usually pretty cool true that's
very true anyway but yeah easy ten out of ten on the costumes because there was a mixture
of outfits that were freaking sick like you get the classic suits you get the the navy
blue jumpsuits freaking you I would even say Lucky's red jacket was pretty sick too dude
freaking don't get me started on that like go so the so I follow a couple of Ghostbusters
fan pages on Facebook I call follow the Ghostbusters podcast that a couple of fans have it's called
yes have some the just Ghostbusters news a couple of my god couple of like actual like
Ghostbusters that are like part of this their state so like Michigan Ghostbusters stuff
like that and all of them have to this because when the first trailers came out they're like
oh my god you know I got to find the closest resemblance to that new coat and they shelled
out I think like a couple hundred just for the coat and they had to mod it and everything
and everyone's just like yeah we feel bad for the people that shelled out a bunch of
money for literally people to only wear them on screen for a total like three minutes and
like none of the OG Ghostbusters even wore one I mean you feel bad but it's also like
yes but they do wear them so it is like a canon thing now that they wear them that's
true but now if you're gout going to especially in Michigan yeah you need cold weather gear
and if you're gonna know it's true you might as well wear something that's like within
the canon yeah like the like the coats looked great I freaking loved them they looked awesome
but just like it's kind of it's it's a little funny just for how much like back and forth
people were with spending so much on the coat and people like griping people for that actually
bought it and like people saying like oh no don't buy it so people that bought it you
know what that's awesome like it's a great addition to your cosplay but like I feel bad
that for the people that like attack them for that now they have they have this ammo
like oh it was barely in it for it was wasn't even in on screen for five minutes yeah I
think you have to have a kind of a tough shell if you're gonna be in the cosplay that's true
like everyone's gonna freaking rip on you for something like even the people that like
only do it for fun like they get ripped on for shit it's true like there is a really
good documentary called ghost heads that showcases like the fandom of Ghostbusters and people
that you know dress up and everything and one guy I forget what Ghostbusters franchise
he's from but he points out that like he'll actually have kids come up and tell their
parents like oh hey I want to be a Ghostbuster and it's not like oh I want to you know actually
you know pull out my proton pack and bust ghosts it's no I want to be able to like make
a difference you know do all these charities that these these certain franchises of Ghostbusters
do like you know they they do toys for tots they do charities for cancer they do all of
this stuff for their community and they're not asking for anything in return they're
not getting paid for this stuff they're doing it out of their out of what they they're doing
it because they love what they do and like honestly like I almost like started tearing
up when he said that because that's awesome like I love that a kid says that that's why
they want to be a Ghostbuster when they grow up.
Yeah that's freaking fantastic.
Ghostbusters like any fandom has the potential of making differences like that.
So it's good that you always get like especially when it's like your fandom.
No seriously like I love so much that Ghostbusters is the one fandom I feel that hasn't become
toxic and I really I really appreciate that like from the interactions that I've had no
one has knocked me down at all and I haven't seen people really knock anybody else down.
They all love this franchise for what it is they they they love these characters they
love this story and just they they want to build everybody up and yeah it makes me really
happy because I look at other fandoms like sometimes so unfortunately Marvel can be toxic
with their fandom Halloween especially as toxic with their fandom but Ghostbusters is
the fandom that I always come out thinking I'm glad to be a part of a fandom for for
for this.
I love being this big of a fan of Ghostbusters.
Yeah.
Alright last up we got our own personal scores.
So who do you want to take this first?
I'd love to hear your thoughts first if you're cool with that.
I really enjoyed this movie.
I I wouldn't say I had like my I feel like my expectations were pretty like reasonable
like I was expecting this to be on the same level as Afterlife and I think they nailed
it.
I was telling Rose about this earlier where I feel Afterlife is more of a nostalgia movie.
This had more of an original story didn't rely too heavily on nostalgia.
It still had it but it didn't rely as heavy on it and I think that was a big benefit to
the film overall.
So where I enjoy the nostalgia of Afterlife more I prefer the story in this one and the
cast was fantastic.
The writing is fantastic.
All if if not very few of these jokes don't hit but I found it to be a really good time
and as someone that's not super big into Ghostbusters how big I was smiling at the end and just
anytime the Ecto-1 was just blasting off like it's infectious like you can't help but freaking
have a shit-eating grin on your face when that's all happening and I think it helped
that there was like some scary elements to it.
Like there was a lot going for this movie and I had a great time with it.
I'm personally probably sitting around maybe an 86 for my own score.
Not bad at all.
Yeah like literally agreeing with everything Caleb said.
I had such a great time with this movie.
After Afterlife reigniting the franchise I was a little afraid that they wouldn't be
able to keep up the momentum but they're doing a great job and I really hope that this movie
is successful that we can get a third movie because I want this franchise to go as long
as it can.
This franchise means so much to me.
It's my favorite franchise.
First Busters means so much to me and this movie just reminded me why that is.
The OGs are fantastic in this.
The new characters are great in this.
The story moves along at such a great pace that I feel that you're never bored.
It never drags.
I do have you know one I have a problem with one specific character but that character
doesn't drag it down for me.
I love every other character in this movie.
The new the new gadgets that they get in this are great.
Everything that this movie adds to the Ghostbusters lore is just great and I truly love what Jason
Reitman and oh my god how am I forgetting his name.
I feel like an asshole because I just talked about him.
I love what they were able to come up with to continue the Ghostbusters story to continue
the Spangler story.
Yeah they just did such a great job and like honestly so like I said earlier I've seen
this movie six times now and I love it more and more each time and this actual last time
I caught myself as the movie ended and it says for Ivan I caught myself crying happy
tears actually because just I loved it.
It was so good.
So with that because I do have some problems with it even though like I love this movie
I do have some problems with it.
I can't bring myself to put it in the 90s actually and so I'm just gonna be bare bones
at the end at an 89.
Alright well going through this breakdown or going through these these scores starting
off with story we are sitting at an 86 writing had a pretty decent bump sitting at a 93.5
the acting is got a little lower not much but that's sitting at a 90 character development
is sitting at an 83 the effects are one of the high points sitting at a 94 music is sitting
at an eight out of ten the costumes are sitting at a very sturdy ten out of ten and then our
personal score ended up averaging out to an eighty seven point five.
So with that the final Albrose letter grade for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire is a B plus.
Yes let's go.
Well yeah so let's see where this is.
Oh fantastic.
Okay so it is sitting at or so it's a B plus it's one of our higher B plus movies only
one percent less than one percent away from being in the A minus category.
Damn.
Yeah right.
So it is sitting at an eighty nine point eight seven five percent.
So that puts it on the exact same level as Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.
Oh okay I can definitely agree with that.
So going to so yeah it's our new number four like it's in our top five B plus movies now
going through these other ones it is sitting below the Avengers sitting below Rocketman.
Okay it is below the Matrix and now we're in the A minus range it is below Guillermo
del Toro's Pinocchio.
Okay it is below soul.
And it is below us.
Okay go in the opposite direction it is sitting above elf.
It is above Ghostbusters Afterlife.
Oh shit okay.
Dude it is a super small it is point point one exactly.
I think that is so perfect because I think I enjoyed frozen empire like barely barely
a little more that perfect.
God dude I love our grading system.
I know it doesn't always work out this well for us.
Yeah this is perfect.
It is above Black Widow it is above Lightyear.
Okay it is above Nemona and it is above Black Panther.
All right not bad.
Very decent home yeah and I'm so glad that it touched where the ghost or afterlife was.
Yeah dude that makes me so happy.
That's awesome.
Oh man fantastic.
But yeah.
All right sweet well unless you got anything else you want to say about frozen empire.
Nope I think I've said all I've needed to.
Yeah cool.
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nailed it.
But yeah next week we'll be breaking down the best picture winner it's going to win
Madame Webb will be breaking that.
You got everyone's like oh like they're gonna be doing an Oscar nope.
I mean we already broke down the best picture winner Oppenheimer so yeah but yeah so we'll
be reviewing Madame Webb next week.
I'm so excited.
Probably for the wrong reason.
I know.
Dude just wait if I end up like enjoying this movie even a little my expectations are so
low if it if it's if it's at all good I'm gonna be like it was bad.
Dude my expectations were low too and I still hated it.
Dude they were like honestly I wish that there were that me and me and my buddy Ryan were
the only ones in the theater because I like I wish we could have because like a couple
times like we leaned over to each other and we're just like what the fuck was that.
But like I wish that we were the only ones in there so we could actually just literally
just bash the whole freaking movie throughout.
So very excited for that one next week if you guys can't tell.
So yeah definitely look forward to that one but until then this has been the All Bros
podcast I'm Jon and I'm Caleb and we'll catch you guys next week.
Shalom!
Dersis!