What is up bros? I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are a couple of bros on a mission to
give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros and welcome Sam. Damn that was fast. I know. Freaking quick. He
did that during the intro. Sam you are the MVP. So I'm gonna say you are the MVP. Hell
yeah. Freaking Johnny on the spot. Alright this week on the podcast we got not that many
weekly watches for you this week again. Next week I feel is gonna be a crazy one. Yes definitely.
Yeah so I was listening to UBS. So it was pre intro. So I guess I should have said.
I just want to point this out before we end the show. So when we were doing just a couple
weeks ago we were doing our weekly watches and you know our mini wrecks. I did the Exorcist
and the Exorcist Believer and I pointed out that I believe the Exorcist Believer is a
better film than the original. And me and Caleb were ready for like all the hatred to
come in. Just freaking people just be like oh my god what is wrong with you. Like you
don't know cinema rose. Like what the hell. One it hasn't really got a lot of interaction
and which really kind of shocks me. But I mean comparing to what the Exorcist has gotten
I guess that makes sense. But yeah like literally on Tik Tok it only has like five comments.
It has zero on Instagram. And literally the only comments are oh you know I've seen that
so it's gotten so many bad reviews but you know since you liked it I might check it out.
And then the first comment was oh I wish you luck on the hatred that you're about to get.
Nothing. And I was telling Caleb I feel like Krusty the Clown in the episode of the Simpsons
where they're at the mapple store and he's complaining about how he doesn't like his
my pod. And he points out like oh and the music these days don't even get me started.
No in response. I said please don't let anyone get me started. Nothing. And he's like come
on isn't someone going to get me started. That's how I feel about this. Come on someone
just get into an argument with me of why I think the Exorcist Believer is a better movie
than the original. Just one person please. Oh shit. But anyway sorry that's just just
wanted to. Yeah that was our pre-show conversation. Yep. Anyway yeah so like I said not much in
weekly watches but after we update you guys on that we will be getting into our breakdown
of Chicken Run Dawn of the Nugget. The sequel that that anyone really asked for. Nope. Not
spoiling the review but I'm just saying like out of all I mean honestly thinking about
it I don't think any Aardman movie really needs a sequel because apparently this it's
either this year or next year that they're coming out with another Walsh and Gromit movie.
I don't excuse me. I don't know if it's a sequel to Curse of the Were Rabbit. I hope
it isn't because it doesn't need one. So yeah. But if it is I stand by that point. No Aardman
movie really needs a sequel. So yeah we'll be getting into that and yeah. So let's say
we get right on into this. Let's do it. All right. Hey this is Mikey T and Grant and Bill
and we are failing Hollywood. Yeah you're listening to the All Bros podcast with Caleb
and Jonathan Rose or just Rose. Is it Rose or Jonathan? I don't know. Caleb calls him
Rose he introduces himself Jonathan. It's a thing. But he's as sweet as a rose. He's a
very nice person. And as generous as a Jonathan. Yes. That might be my favorite. It's so funny
how it's little we have to go into a backstory as to why we have on the podcast as to why
Caleb calls me Rose but everyone else calls me Jonathan. All righty so kicking off this
week's weekly watch Rose what did you end up watching this week? I watched Talladega
Nights the Ballad of Ricky Bobby and I'm sorry I did not enjoy it that much. For the first
time Will Ferrell was way too much for me. I never thought I would say that. I really
didn't because like you have Elf which I mean a lot of people I'm sure. I don't know would
a lot of people say that Will Ferrell is too much in that movie? I think some might but
if you're a fan of Will Ferrell I don't think it's quite like the normal level that he's
at with these types of movies. That's fair. So like I don't know comparing to like how
like I guess outlandish and like fling his hands around as he is in that movie compared
to this one just he's trying too hard in my opinion in this movie and it just doesn't
work for a lot of the time. I will say John C. Reilly though I love him in this movie
but I love John C. Reilly in like literally everything. He's a very underappreciated not
only comedic but actor. But I don't know like everyone else is fine. The jokes with his
kids are hilarious. I will definitely admit that. Walker and Texas Ranger. Freaking hilarious
and I had no idea that this is the movie that the line I'm all hyped up on Mountain Dew
comes from but when it came out I'm like that's where that comes from. I now know it. But
yeah I don't know. I mean I'm glad I finally watched it. I can finally check this off my
list of I want to say because it's weird like John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell did like a
trilogy together even though they came out it was widely split apart because there was
Step Brothers this and then Watson and Holmes which I heard Watson and Holmes was terrible.
Have you seen the movie? Not even a little bit. Okay. I kind of want to see it just because
I kind of want to see all three that these two are the main stars of and like they are
working together. But yeah I'll fully admit Step Brothers is a way better film than this
movie. It's way funnier. Like this the supporting cast is decent. I was shocked when freaking
Amy Adams came on camera. I'm like whoa I did not expect her to be in this kind of comedy
but I mean I get considering this came out in 2006 this was kind of where she was like
getting her startup but just comparing it to what she is in nowadays. It's like kind
of like threw me off for a minute. But yeah just I thought it was all right. Just like
I said I'm glad I finally watched it. I can finally be on the Talladega Nights train I
guess because people hype this movie up so much but just I thought it was all right.
So yeah this is one that I rewatched this not too long ago. Yeah I only like it for
like a handful of super quotable moments and that's about it. Everything else is just it's
too much. Right. Thank you. Yeah I mean but it's weird because it's like the quotes that
hit hit hard. Everything else though it's just it's too much. Yeah. So yeah I got to give
this one a nothing better to do. Yeah that's fair. Yeah all right. So I ended up watching
Ted this week and this is more or less my excuse to talk about the show because I just
finished watching the show and I was like gosh damn it I need to watch the movie now
just to like see if it hits the same and it does quite live up to the show. I think the
show is a lot better but the the movie I mean the movie still hits it's still funny. I think
it's hilarious. I think the second one's funnier though because I've rewatched both of them
recently. So yeah I think the yeah I think the the the show is is funnier than the movie
and the second one is funnier than the first. I find it funny that Peacock has like the
the Ted collection and it's just the show in the first one because HBO Max has the rights
to the second one right now. Did I notice that I was scrolling through HBO and I was
just like wait a minute when I saw Ted to pop up. It's like poor poor Peacock they can't
have the trilogy. Yeah. But yeah I highly recommend the show. The show is fantastic.
Oh my god. Have you finished it yet. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Dude that final scene just like
get the get the guitar. Dude you freaking called it. I wanted to point this. Yeah last week
I can't remember if we said it on the podcast but yeah Caleb's like there has to be a Thunder
Buddies introduction like there has to be in the show and yeah Caleb freaking called
it that that's how they end it. It was perfect. It was perfection. Dude it was great. It was
freaking great. And it made like it makes sense too because it's like OK there's a cuss
word in the song like why would they have had that when he was a kid. Like they did
it perfect. They did. So perfect. They did. Oh yeah. I man I freaking loved it and freaking
loved that like how it was introduced there just like sitting out in their backyard and
then just strikes and they're like oh god why is it like that. Like son of a bitch.
Freaking great. So yeah. Highly recommend the show. The movie. The movie I'm giving
a stream it and it's a little on the weaker side but it's still I think it's still had
holds up. Yeah. I mean I'd give it a strong stream it. That's me. Yeah. I mean don't
get me wrong. I'm not nowhere close to it. Nothing better to do. But it's definitely
like a weaker just like stream it. Have you ever. So I don't think they've ever put the
unrated version on streaming. Have you ever seen the unrated version. I have not. So the
opening is so much funnier. Is it. Yes. Because I don't think that it happens in the original
but there's a part where they're beating up on the on the one kid and John comes over
and because I don't think like they even talk to John he kind of just walks away. But in
the unrated there be there be like hey can I play. And they're all just like get get
lost in it and the kid that's even get beaten up just like get Bennett get lost. That was
in the that this was. Yeah. I don't know if it was the unrated version but. Oh no. OK.
I'm OK. No I'm thinking of a completely different joke that is inappropriate to say on the podcast
right now. OK. Yeah. I'll tell you after because because yeah when they do that I'm like OK.
I mean I laughed I felt bad for laughing but it was funny as hell. And honestly I felt
it was a way better opening. But anyway yeah. I do agree. I do agree with Caleb though.
I mean definitely. Yeah. But yeah that's all that's all I've I've watched this week. So.
Yeah so that wraps up this week's weekly watch. So with that let's say we get right into this
breakdown. Let's do it. All right.
All righty getting into this week's breakdown we are going to be discussing a chicken run
Don of the Nugget the crazy out of left field sequel that I'm not sure anyone could guess
we were going to get. Do you see I'm wondering if once. Frickin Netflix acquired the rights
to like all of Arben's future projects they're like OK. What are you guys thinking because
we were thinking a chicken run sequel. Oh we were thinking this. No no no. Your first
one from from us being you know your executive distributor chicken run to. That's all that
you can do. Yeah doesn't quite. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. I mean you know
for from a financial standpoint I can understand why considering that chicken run is still
the top grossing stop motion animated film of all time. So from that point I get it.
But at the same time it's a digital it's it's a streaming release it wasn't released in
theaters so like you can't really necessarily make that argument that much. Yeah. But anyway.
Yeah. All right. Well we did not ask a question of the week this week mainly because we didn't
know what we were going to be breaking down until. Four hours ago for five hours ago.
We we had a. Some people reach out to us about another movie and we were going to do that
movie but the screener that they sent us to like watch it had expired. Oops. And so we
didn't have enough time to like reach out to them and like hey can you get us a new
one because we suck. Yeah. Yeah but dude it freaking turns out it expired yesterday. Oh
son of a bitch. I know I was totally planning on watching it yesterday. But something came
up and I was like I'll get to it and no. Leave it to us to put I mean yeah I guess yeah leave
it to us to push it to the day that we actually record. Yeah no shit. Both of us too. Yeah.
But yeah. So yeah well that's why why we're doing this one and also why we didn't post
a question of the week. Yes. So we will be sure to get one out next week. So yeah. So
just kicking this right off if you guys are new to our breakdown system we have split
movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final all
bros letter grade. The eight categories that we score are story writing acting character
development effects but with this being an animated film we're going to be discussing
the animation that we'll be getting into music and then character design with again with
this being a animated film then we will be giving it our own personal score at the very
end all of those numbers will get magically added up and spit through our system and give
us a letter grade to compare this movie to others of the same grade as well as a percentage
that really doesn't quite matter but it's still fun to talk about. So with that if you
have not seen Chicken Run Dawn of the Nugget it is available to stream on Netflix right
now otherwise we are going to be spoiling the whole thing for you in our favorite segment
that we like to call reading with Rose. All right. I pause to like let you do your bitching
and complaining. Oh no I'm trying I'm trying to be better. That's my New Year's resolution
to not bitch about reading with Rose. Just accept it and move on with it Rose. Just accept
it and move on. We've been doing it for 300 episodes now just get freaking used to it.
Well okay maybe not that. When did we introduce freaking reading with Rose like wasn't like
at the beginning right. No it wasn't. It was it slowly formed over time. Okay. It's still
been a while though so like I'm dumb bitching about it. I'm going to I'm going to embrace
it. Okay. All right. Well with that we'll be posting our spoiler warning now. So if
you listen past this point and anything is spoiled for you too bad. Yeah exactly. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Rose. We're going to break this way. Absolutely. All right. Since the chickens
escaped from Mr. and Mrs. Tweety's farm they have settled in an idyllic sanctuary on an
island in a lake where they can live happily safe from humans. Ginger and Rocky start a
family with a hatchling named Molly. The rats and Nick Fetcher visit periodically with supply
and you know I'm going to add an and to that it shouldn't be a period and the rats Nick
and Fetcher visit periodically with supplies. Molly grows into an adventurous 11 year old
whom Ginger and Rocky try to protect from the outside world. The appearance of trucks
and construction on the mainland concern Ginger that another chicken farm is being built and
with her more cautious perspective as a parent she leads her community in better hiding themselves.
Molly's curiosity draws her to sneak away to the mainland where she is safe from being
run over by a teenage chicken named Frizzle. The two friends stowaway on a truck full of
chickens being taken to fun land farms which looks appealing to them. Ginger and Rocky
form a search party with chickens Babs, Bunty, Mack and Fowler. They give chase and find
that the farm is a high advanced poultry processing plant bristling with security systems. Inside
Molly and Frizzle find an expansive amusement area where the other chickens all wearing
numbered electronic collars go on rides, play games, etc. Rocky impulsively catapults into
the compound inadvertently activating various security systems giving Ginger and the others
the info they need to infiltrate. They are joined by Nick and Fetcher who are separated
from the others but meet up with Rocky. Molly and Frizzle discover that the collars turn
the other chickens into carefree idiots when activated. Frizzle is caught by the facility
scientist Dr. Fry and given a collar. Molly leaves promising to come back for her. Ginger
reunites with Molly and learns in horror that her nemesis Mrs. Tweedy is running the operation
alongside Dr. Fry, her new husband. The collars serve to suppress the chickens fear to make
tastier chicken nuggets for Reginald Smith, a fast food chain businessman looking for
new food items. Mrs. Tweedy captures Ginger and puts a collar on her which she resists
while unsuccessfully but Rocky intervenes and Molly frees her. The hens, rooster and
rats are reunited in a corn silo which they escape by turning it into popcorn. Molly
mourns the fate of Frizzle prompting Ginger and the others to turn back and help the other
chickens as well. Mrs. Tweedy orders Dr. Fry to start production of chicken nuggets
beginning a struggle for the remote control that brainwashes the chickens between Mrs.
Tweedy and the team of Rocky, Ginger and Molly while the rest of the rescue squad try to
hold back the chickens marching mindlessly into the processor. The chicken trio wins
the fight sending Mrs. Tweedy into the machine to be breaded like a chicken nugget while
the whole population of chickens and the rats escape in a truck. Mrs. Tweedy tries to stop
them but Fowler knocks her into Compound's moat where she is stopped by the facility
security as the site explodes from the chickens sabotage. The chickens return to the island
and their life returns to normal now with Molly and Frizzle doing aerial reconnaissance
for chicken farms on the mainland and the chicken crew liberating those they find.
Hell yeah.
I will say though one thing that I wish or maybe I hope it's what's the word? Shit I
don't know the word. I hope that it's implied that's the word. That this is the final resting
spot of Mrs. Tweedy because I swear if they make a chicken run three and she comes back
like again. No dude. It was a stretch for her to come back in this one. It was. I so
I remember the first one being like really like we talked about it. The first one was
really freaking dark. Yes when Tweedy fell into the chicken nugget of fire. I straight
up thought they killed her. Dude I was kind of hoping that they did because I was gonna
be alright Armin ballsy. I love it. Super ballsy. She just got freaking breaded. That's
all it was. Yeah that was that was so lame. Yeah. But makes sense because it's a kids
movie but I mean are we. I don't know I mean like I get why you don't want to go that far
but like I appreciate movies that like imply that they're going to go that far. Toy Story
3. Like God imagine if Pixar actually did go that far but the toys weren't generated.
That should be the first and the first Pixar movie to be freaking rated PG 13. That'd be
nuts. Yeah that would have been wild. Dude I wouldn't even know what to like emotionally
do if that was the case. What would kill me is if the last the last shot is you see buddy
and buddy Woody and Buzz's hands holding each other are the last things to be incinerated.
Oh my gosh. Dude I could never recover emotionally from that. Yeah it's just like the end. Well
Pixar you broke me. You broke me. Yup. Shit. But yeah I mean this story. My issue with
the first chicken run is that the the story felt really slow. OK that's fair. Yeah and
this one I had the opposite. It was going too fast for me. That's that's fair. I think
my problem was I don't know I liked that the stakes were so high in the first one but I
mean I and I know like they tried to raise the stakes and they tried to make the stakes
high in this one but just it didn't feel that way. And maybe it's just because the first
one is a lot darker of a film like you pointed out. Whereas I don't know this this one felt
a little too not magical but just like I never I never thought that the chickens were actually
in danger. I didn't either. I never like really bought it. Like I knew that they I had a feeling
that they were going to have like a few chickens that were like sacrifices like just showing
off like the technology. Like I'm like yeah I kind of figured that's what would happen.
Yeah. There'd be like one or two and that's exactly what happened in the first. And but
yeah it's like the stakes just weren't on the same level. And when they did like when
it did feel like there was like maybe some stakes but like when Tweety had Molly I like
I felt no concern. I'm like yeah they're going to get out of this. Same. And I think what
ruined it is that they kept showing Rocky doing stuff in the background. And so it's
like OK so obviously he's going to do something that's going to like fix this all. Like if
I think it's tough because it's like do you go the route where he just comes out of nowhere
and have like one of those frickin ex machina situations or do you do what you did and just
cheapen the moment. Yeah. I agree.
I feel it's hard to rate like make you actually feel like genuine worry for these chickens
after the frickin ballsy scene that is in the first one where you actually see the implication
of a chicken getting its head cut off because that that to me is still the darkest scene
in any Ardman film. But just I agree with you. Like yeah I never felt that Molly was
in any real danger and frickin yeah when Ginger is strapped down and has the collar put on
didn't feel any worry there. Just like literally same shit that happened in the first one.
Oh Ginger's about to be cooked by the machine that Mrs. Tweety has. We all know she's going
to get out of it.
So yeah it's just that was the thing that this thing suffered with a lot. It was setting
up good stakes and yeah by the end it's it's for me stakes are what make me care about
the movie. And with this not having any it like I I stopped caring about the movie.
No guys just like okay like whatever let's just wrap this up. Like that was like my my
feelings towards it after after all that stuff and it sucks. Like yeah this had potential
and it's just you you cheapened your own plot.
Yeah they they really did. And I mean I don't know if it was if I mean I know it's a different
director duo than Nick Park and oh my god damn I forgot who directed the first chicken
run. Sorry one second. Because Nick so is Nick Park and.
Damn it doesn't. I know they produced it. Of course it's not going to let me take it
to the original on Wikipedia because it's freaking stupid like that.
Dude you know what would have been a really good alteration and maybe would have helped
the stakes out a little bit more. I would have personally liked for them to have been
discovered on the island.
Who OK. Yeah. And then it's like everyone gets taken from the island. I would say Molly's
already on her way to the factory like she sneaks away. She's already taken to the factory
kind of has an idea of what's going on already. Yeah. And then it's like the main people that
you want out of there are like not fully there. So like Ginger Rocky like all of all of that
main cast like they are the only ones that didn't get taken. And so that's like then
they have to jump on and like save their community and and everything like that. I think that
would have helped out a lot.
Dude absolutely agree. And I feel that like doing around the ending is cool that like
oh now that that's that this is their mission to save chickens from getting sent into you
know being well cooked. Oh my gosh. All right. Take two. Here we go. I like that at the end
it's their mission to make sure that you know no chicken goes through what they have gone
through twice now and you know they end up being cooked. But just yeah I agree with you.
It would have been a lot more impactful if it were the chickens from their area their
family that got taken and then it was up to like you said Ginger Rocky all of them all
the all the main chickens to save them.
I think you still could have done like the like I think that would like gosh maybe this
is going on the dark side a little bit. But this is where I feel like they could have
done the whole experimenting and like shown like what happens when they get taken and
everything with someone from that like community like obviously not like one of the main cast
chickens but someone from like their community. And then it's just like boom like then they
get turned into nuggets and you're just like oh shit.
You know what would have been the most ballsy and I feel that the one that would have been
the most impactful if they would have done it to Babs. Oh dude that would have been nuts.
I don't know if I could recover from that emotionally.
Yeah. Give us something they care about. We haven't seen these characters in over 20 years.
Yeah.
Don't be wrong. It was great seeing them again. Like I loved seeing Ginger and Rocky Babs Reginald
right.
Is that the name of the.
Yeah yeah yeah.
Yeah.
But it's like why.
Why.
Like why. Like give us a reason to care. Give us a something to get emotionally attached
to. And I think have it like the rando chickens was just meh.
Yeah no that's fair. And I mean I get that they probably have a lot more going on but
like I feel like I missed Peter Lord and Nick Park directing this like they did with the
first one. I miss them being the like like they're involved in like I mean they are literally
involved in everything with Ardman but I miss them directing every single movie because
like I still love Ardman. They're still one of my favorite animation studios but like
I feel after Walson after Walson Gromit the Curse of the Were Rabbit it just I lost a
little bit of magic from them.
Yeah.
But I'm not not trying to be mean to the directors that did Donna the Nugget. They did do a decent
job with a sequel because Chicken Run did not need a sequel. Sam Fell. Sorry it was just
one director. Sam Fell did a good job with what he was given here. But for me personally
it's it's nowhere near on the levels as the first Chicken Run which I love.
Yeah. So this one I can't go much higher than like a seventy five for the story. It just
did not work for me nearly as well as the original did.
That's fair dude. That is fair. I think the only reason I'm just giving to give it a point
higher is it was nice seeing these characters again. Not everyone was given what they should
have been when it came to character arc but looking past that like when it came to like
the like OGs it did feel like seeing old friends and that's always a nice thing and that that
definitely at least gives me gets gets me to push up a point.
Fair. All right. Next up we got writing.
And unfortunately that was this was bland.
Sorry especially like the new characters. You could have had so much fun with the new
characters like seriously Frizzle. Like I actually really like the addition of Molly.
I just kind of wish it was written better. I do too. Dude and this is where I feel like
the hat like taking the characters or taking like the community like if they would have
all been captured would have really helped this movie because then you could have had
Frizzle be a childhood friend of Molly's. Yeah. Oh dude that would have been perfect.
Yeah it's like the two of them always getting into trouble like doing all this and instead
it's just some rando chicken that Molly meets one day that kind of like drags her on the
bus and is like hey let's go like it's just some it's so random and it's just yeah it
doesn't work it like nearly as well as if you had established a previous relationship.
Yeah. And you could have had so much fun with it too. So much freaking fun with it. But
it's just it was cheap and like I said bland as hell. I can't think I shit you not. I finished
the movie three hours ago. Couldn't tell you a single line. Yeah dude I got nothing either
and I finished it about the same time. She is. Wow. This is one I didn't even crack the
70s with it. I'm personally sitting around like a 68. It's it was low. It was so bland.
I think I'm just going to be slightly above you at a 70. It does crack the 70s for me.
It's nowhere near as good as the writing of the original. And as we pointed out the there
are no memorable lines but there is still some writing that I did enjoy that barely
cracked 70 for me. That I mean fair fair enough. It's it just it wasn't hitting for me. No
dude. Like I found myself having a hard time focusing on the film because of how land the
writing was. OK. I mean I didn't have a problem but I can understand why. I completely get
that. Yeah. All right. Next up we got acting. So going through this cast real quick we have
Sandoe Newton who voiced Ginger Zachary Levi who voiced Rocky Bella Ramsey who voiced
Molly. I didn't pay attention to the castless after that. I now I hear it. Yeah right. Yeah
I thought the same thing. I'm just like holy shit. Yeah that was Bella. Yeah. Melda Staunton
who voiced Bunte. Lynn Ferguson who voiced Mac. Jane Horrocks who voiced Babs. David
Bradley who voiced Fowler. And then Miranda Richardson who voiced Mrs. Tweedy. All right.
What's your your top three look like. So one thing I just do want to point out really quickly
don't get me wrong. Sandy Newton did do a good job as Ginger but I was missing the original
voice so much. It was I'm sorry it was not the same. And the fact that they didn't even
approach her to come back like that just makes me so sad. Yeah. Like there were some improvements
though. I loved Zachary Levi's performance. Dude. Same way better Rocky. Way better Rocky
than Mel Gibson. I know. Dude he's like such more personality. Yeah. So much better. Yeah.
Oh dude I'm glad I'm not I'm not I'm not the only one that felt that way. But top three
I probably give three to Miranda Richardson who came back from Mrs. Tweedy just because
it was great to have her back and she she was just as great as ever. It didn't felt
weird for her character to come back because fricking it was implied that she fricking
died in the first one. But whatever it was great to have her back. Number two I think
I would give to Zachary Levi played Rocky like we pointed out improvement over the voice
from the first one. Great great job. Yeah I loved him in the role. Like I know he was
what I know it could have never happened but I wish that he played him in the first one.
Yeah. Same. But number one I'm going to get to Belly Ramsey. Sorry Belly. Wow. I'm sorry.
Bella Ramsey who played Molly. Well I wish that her writing as a character was a little
stronger. Bella Ramsey was great as the voice for her. She I feel she brought a lot of characteristic
to this character. She brought so much energy especially like just I really enjoyed when
Molly was on screen. So yeah that's my top three. Yeah. Unfortunately the performances
were good but it's a writing that sucked ass. Yeah dude right. And unfortunately like even
the great performances that we got could not save this movie for anything. Yeah agreed.
So my number three I'm actually going to give to Miranda Richardson as well. I love that
she came back and she's like it was weird because her voice didn't quite sound the same.
Like it almost sounded younger. It kind of did maybe. I mean she kind of honestly the
way that she was dressed and she looked younger. I know. Yeah. So like maybe she's had some
like plastic surgery or some shit. She must have. She absolutely must have. So yeah loved
her like coming back. I thought she she kept the same intensity in her characterization
definitely of Miss Tweety. So freaking loved it. My number two I'm going to give to Bella
Ramsey who played Molly. I thought she was a great addition to the cast and so much fun.
Again she was like not a great written character but the performance was outstanding. So freaking
loved loved her. But my number one I'm giving to Zachary Levi as Rocky. He was great. Like
if there ever there was a time that I was paying attention it was when freaking Rocky
was on screen. He has like so much more of a charm to him in this just because I think
his his personality is a lot better. Yeah. But yeah like it was great. It was absolutely
great. I just I'm very shocked. Like I get why you know they didn't want to bring back
Mel Brooks. We're not going to talk about our Gibson Mel Gibson. Sorry. Thank you. Brooks
is a different comedian. Yeah. So you know what I understand and we're not going to get
into that but I just don't understand why they didn't bring they didn't ask was did
the voice Julia. So while her I think that's how you say I'm I just as far as I know like
there's no bad beef between her and Ardman like nothing like nothing wrong. And she even
like I think she sent in an audition for it which which really shocks me how she would
need to audition again for Ginger when she freaking played her in the first one. But
apparently they didn't they didn't they didn't think that her voice fit the iteration of
Ginger that they were going for in the second one. I'm just like how the hell does that
make sense. Well has she ever if her voice is aged. No she sounds the exact same. Does
she really. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I don't I don't care for that. I think if she has the same
voice but I mean I know that there's times where that doesn't necessarily work like I'm
the biggest example is talking about like Carrie Fisher the way she sounds in like Star
Wars and everything versus how she sounded near that like the end of her life wildly
different. Yeah. So it's it's if if that was the case I'm like okay maybe I could be a
little bit more understanding about that. But if she sounds the same what what the hell's
the problem. I think it's the case of oh we want star power that we can put on the poster.
So there's a who Sandy Noon and Zachary Levi. Bam. What is she from. What I remember from
his Norbert Norbert. She's in Norbert. What else is she in. If you're saying like oh she
has the star power like does she. She's in the pursuit of happiness. Okay that does nothing
for me though. Yeah those are the only two movies I can think of off the top of my head
like don't run like she did a good job like she didn't she wasn't bad but I was missing
the original. Yeah I was missing Julia. That if that's the reason that they didn't bring
the original back that they wanted star power you should know your movie. We're not there
for like the people that watch Chicken Run could give a flying shit about who voiced
her in the first. Yeah. So it's like I'm not going there. I'm not going into this movie
for like for star power. I'm going in there to hear the characters that I fell in love
with 20 years ago. Yeah. So yeah. Where were you sitting with with acting. I mean consider
like it's awesome that for the other roles that they brought back the originals. So that
was awesome to hear them. But just there were some decisions with it that I didn't love
some I did love Zachary Levi and Bella Ramsey but not asking the original voice of Ginger
to come back. I did have a problem with but that is not I'm not going to have that you
know ruin my score for acting so acting just because I feel everyone did do a pretty decent
job with their voice acting. I think I'm going to go an 80. I am just slightly below you
it. I did not quite crack in an 80 with this one. So I'm sitting at a 79. That's fair.
That's completely fair. All right. Next up we got character development. I was going
to say bugs. That's apparently what I know. Help dude the frickin like we got like frickin
fruit flies and shit like they're the worst. Oh dude that sucks. I'm sorry. Yeah. And I
don't have any food in here. I don't know what the hell they're doing in here. Yeah.
So character development. I'm assuming what are we doing Molly or Ginger. This is one
I feel like you kind of have to do both. That's yeah. Yeah. Mother daughter do I like. Yeah.
Makes sense. Yeah. Like I I will say I did like Ginger's character arc. The fact that
you know after everything that they went through in the first one completely understandable
why she wants to protect her daughter at all costs and she doesn't want her to go beyond
their sanctuary. And then as the movie goes on you know her going to Mrs. Tweety's new
farm. Everything that happens there having emotional moments with her daughter and then
at the end you know her deciding that you know what actually we need to save all these
chickens and then like the big ending being that they make it their mission to rescue
all chickens now which is awesome. I thought that that was actually a very good arc for
Ginger. I still like the arc in the first one better. I'm going to say that a lot. I'm
sorry because the first one is superior to this one in my opinion is wildly superior
but just no it wasn't a bad arc for Ginger. Molly the same. You know I can understand
why she's that that adventurous kid that you know wants to venture out from where she is
living like they point out she's a lot like her mother which yeah definitely. So I like
that approach and seeing her understand come to an understanding throughout of what her
parents what Ginger and Rocky were talking about with what lies on the other side of
where they live and just how bad it is and stuff like that and just how she comes to
an understanding of that and an understanding of especially where her mom was coming from
and just you know how they they mend their relationship at the end and just yeah like
overall not a bad arc for both. Yeah I mean it was okay it's just I can't wasn't anything
new or exciting but it was it was done well. Yeah. For what it was this. I don't think
I've cracked 80s on this one either. Oh yeah dude I haven't either. Yeah I'm sitting where
are you at. I probably I think I'll be slightly higher than my story grade I'll be a 78. Yeah
that's I'm about a 77 I'm just slightly lower than you. We've been close this this go around
that is true yeah. Too often. No it does not. Especially with films like this. Yeah. No
dude trust me I when I started this I wanted to love it I wanted to love it as much as
the original but it's just it's a decent sequel but it unfortunately doesn't fully stack up
to the original. Yeah. All right next up we got animation. A wild improvement from the
first. Yes. Like they still look the same. Like you know nothing's really changed about
the characters but yeah like the the fact that of course they're filmed on way better
cameras now. Yeah. Freaking looks so much better. Yes. And I would even say the vibrancy
the color the colors that they use in this are so freaking stunning. Yeah I agree as
you could say that the first one is kind of monotone a little bit if you're comparing
it to this one which nothing wrong with that. Like I love it for that. But the when the
decision to you know bump up the vibrancy in here with this one I think was a really
good call and it definitely added to it. It's a very pretty Ardman animated film. Yeah
I agree. Gosh like I had no issues. Well actually that that might be a tough thing. I'd say
I don't know about you. Did the the things that they use that weren't stop motion feel
awkward to you. I'm trying to think of like certain moments. So one that I'm thinking
of is when Rocky dives into the silo and so when he like dives into all like the corn
kennels like you could see that they was like animated thrown around it wasn't like stop
motion movement. Yeah. So there was that there they they had a scene where I think it was
Molly looking at birds and those were like animated. There one and I don't know what
it was but the animation on the guards in this one the way that they were sculpted I
don't know just it looked they looked way too bland for me and I mean I super generic.
Yeah I guess that's the point maybe for them being guards but I don't know it's just like
comparing how they look to what I know the what Ardman is capable of when it comes to
their human characters. I was I was disappointed. Yes they freaking cookie cutter. Yeah they
have the same frickin model for like damn near all of the guards. I will say though
for so yeah Mrs. Tweedy looked great. Frickin her husband her new husband. Shit what was
his name. Yeah I'm like they they did good on the characters that weren't that were like
up front and center. Yeah like the actual characters. Yeah the background characters
sucked ass. No they see yeah like frickin like when Frizzle and Molly first you know
they're chasing after the truck and the guy stops at the gas station when he walks out
the door and ginger's like shop items like wow that is so generic for Ardman when it
comes to a human character. Yeah. I never thought I'd say that. I think that's more
of a character design flaw though. That's fair but yeah that's a good point. So I'll
leave it for that. Yeah we'll save it for that like that particular problem but I'm
I'm talking like even the the explosion. All like when they when their facility like started
blowing up and everything that like they used like actual explosions and stuff like shit
you get like from a green screen and like in the background I'm like dude that's lazy.
Like yeah like I don't know like I'm not trying to knock you know using that kind of stuff
because you know I know stop motion is a hard thing to do and you know kudos to people that
do it especially Ardman but I don't know if I'm doing a stop motion movie I'm going to
commit 100 percent and everything is going to be stop motion like they did in the first
they had explosions in the first. Yeah and it yeah it was all claymation. Yep. All stop
motion. Why'd you drop the ball. Yeah like I understand. Yeah I know it's like I understand
that maybe that's difficult to do but you guys signed up to do a stop motion movie freaking
commit. Yeah seriously. So yeah that's dropping that's dropping my animation score a bit because
they had a lot of moments like that where it was random moments of animation or of like
computer generated animation versus the stop motion. Yeah. And it was I'd say distracting
because I was like oh yeah like that's not claymation. Yeah no I agree. Yeah I mean but
don't get me wrong the movie still looked fantastic and that is but a small part of
the movie. Yeah. So I'm still I'm still fairly high like I'm in definitely the high 80s.
Yeah that's fair yeah I don't think I've cracked 90s on this honestly. Yeah. Like. Maybe like
an eighty seven. I think I'm going I'm just gonna be two points higher than you in eighty
nine. Fair enough. All right next up we got music. Is the song that they played at like
at the end of the credits is that an original song. I have no idea. Because that was a pretty
decent song. Yeah I agree. If you if you can think if you can give this movie one up from
the original I will say that it does have better music. At least when it comes to like
you know like pop songs that they use because the first one really only has the flip flop
fly song whereas this one he said the credit song and then when when Molly and Frizzle
first arrived to the sanctuary there's that song playing and then isn't there another
one when like the chickens are being led into or like when all the chickens are about to
be led into the incinerator but you know the chicken nugget maker whatever it's called.
Yes okay I can't recall that the that one as much. But I don't know compare like with
the music I think what what do we give the first one like a six. I think so. I think
this one's at least with that already or with that's that one song the one about their their
kid or their daughter or whatever the I think that one's at least earned it a seven. Yeah
I agree. Like it's barely cracked it. Yeah. This is more like six and a half but yeah
it's yeah it's leaning more towards that one. All right next up we got character design
which this is where we're going to freaking hit them for the generic ass looking characters.
Yeah because the Adam them guards man them guards. Yeah just just sucks because you get
those you know those generic ass looking characters and then you get the amazing designs of you
know the the O.G. chickens from the first on ginger rocky Babs. Freaking Molly looked
great loved her look frizzle. I loved frizzle's look. Yeah frizzle looked awesome but just
unfortunately it's it's dragged a little down by the generic gas or by some generic
gas human characters. Yeah. Gosh this one I mean giving the props where props are due
I think with these ones I'm given I'm leaning more towards an eight just because of how
well they looked and I loved. Oh shit. Tweety. Tweety. Yeah I love her look a lot more in
this one than I did the first. I liked her look in the first one more. Did you. Yeah
a lot more scarier. I'll give you that. I can definitely give you that. It is a little
bit scarier but yeah I don't know I prefer this one. No I completely get it. Completely
understandable but yeah if you're saying an A I can definitely agree with that. Definitely.
Yeah I can't I can't justify sitting any higher because I think if I remember I think we gave
the first one a nine. Yeah I think you're. Maybe let me just check for shits and giggles.
Yeah we gave the original nine. So yeah this this drops just a point. Which that's not
bad like honestly. Yeah no not at all. All right last up we got our own personal score
you want to take this one first. I would love to. Sorry I'm just checking something really
quickly I'm sorry. Where is it. Aha there we go. OK. Sorry I just want to check a certain
score. So unfortunately this was this did not stack up to the original. It's a decent
sequel I will say. It's not the worst sequel I've ever seen. But comparing it to the original
it's night and day. Don't get me wrong it was great to see these characters back again.
But this sequel was not necessary. And it really feels like a cash grab. And yeah like
I said don't get me wrong it was great to see these characters again. But just the story
wasn't fully there. Made no goddamn sense why Mrs. Tweedy was back. She was dead. If
she can come back Mr. Tweedy can come back. I guess she divorced him so I guess that makes
sense why he didn't come back. But I would have loved to have Mr. Tweedy back too anyway.
I think that would have been a really fun thing for them to like bring back. Right.
Yeah. But yeah just like it sucks saying that Chicken Run 2 is it's not great. It's just
it's OK. It's it's decent. It's it's it's I would say it's good. But I just I wish either
we didn't get a sequel or we got a better sequel. So personally and I feel it barely
cracks it. I'm going to go a solid 80. 80 that's still pretty high. Barely dude like
barely. Oh man. I am very much on a different playing field than you. This is going to be
our biggest distance. I am I'm sitting at a 73. This did not do it for me. This is one
I I could I barely made it through this one. I found it to be so boring so bland like there
were definitely like some good things about it but yeah it wasn't wasn't doing it. That's
fair. That's completely fair. Yeah. All right. Well with that that wraps up this week's breakdown.
So going through these categories real quick starting off with story we ended up averaging
out to a seventy five point five. Writing is sitting at a sixty nine. Acting is sitting
at a seventy nine point five. Character development is sitting at a seventy seven point five. The
effects are the high points of this of this movie or the animation is thing is the high
point of this film sitting at an eighty eight. Music is a seven out of ten. The costumes
are sitting at an eight out of ten and our personal score at or the character design
average to an eight out of ten and our personal score ended up averaging out to a seventy
six point five. So with that the final all bros letter grade for Chicken Run Dawn of
the Nugget has come out to a C plus. OK. Not bad. Not bad at all. A def a little higher
than I thought it was going to get though. Yeah. Same here. Wow. Yeah. So let's see.
All right. So this movie is sitting. It's below the first one. Rightfully so. Yeah.
Like significantly. So this is sitting at a seventy eight point eight seven. OK. Yeah.
So not too bad. It's definitely one of the stronger C plus movies. So yeah. Sitting at
a seventy eight point eight seven. This puts it on the exact same level as Army of the
Dead. Which I can agree with you is that was the exact the Dave Bautista Zombie Tiger.
Oh yeah. OK. Yeah. I can agree with that. Yeah. So do we want to go above or below first.
I'm gonna let you pick. Let's go below. OK. OK. So this ended up sitting. I'm going to
just like I'm going to skip a few because there's some that I feel like most people
probably haven't seen. Did I. What. OK. So no because I forgot to click submit. So I
didn't know if you were actually like everything was right on your end. Sorry. But it looks
like we're good. Yeah. I submitted it for you because you I'm sorry forever. I'm sorry.
I forgot. I'm so sorry. New right or new new system like we'll get the hang of it. All
right. So Chicken Run sitting at seventy eight point eight seven. It's sitting below the
remake of Pinocchio or Disney's remake of Pinocchio. It's below that. It is below that.
Oh God. What the hell is wrong with us. It is way better than that. Is it though. I mean
it's at least a little better. I bet you this was a music issue. Damn it. Yeah. Son of a
bitch. So yeah it is below the remake of Pinocchio is below uncharted. I did have a really good
time with uncharted so I can I can get that. Yeah it is below Hocus Pocus to two sequels
that do not match up to their their original. Yeah. Yeah. OK. And let's see. Oh it's below
Mortal Kombat twenty twenty one. All right. And then it is below the live action remake of Aladdin.
That's fair because that is actually one of the better Disney remakes. Oh absolutely.
Sorry then go in the opposite direction. It is sitting above the new mutants. Fair. It's
above Godzilla versus Kong. Oh shit. Yeah. I know you're kind of harsh on that one. Seriously.
Shit. It is above Jumanji the next level. OK. It is above venom. Let there be carnage.
Wow. Did I love that it's on like the same levels of like sequels that are nowhere near
as good as the first one. That's hilarious. Yeah. And it is above tag. I think I like
tag more. I bet you that's because our personal score was higher for tag than like everything
else that makes sense. Yeah. So interesting placement for this one. Like I said that is
freaking hilarious that is on the same level of so many sequels that are as good as the
first. Oh dude. Oh it's freaking great. But yeah. So unless you have anything else you
want to add about this movie. I got nothing. Yeah. Well I'm pretty sure that wraps up this
week's episode one of our quicker ones today. Yeah. Seriously. Damn. Yeah. So I think we're
just getting like a little bit more streamlined. And we're like what we're talking about now.
I agree. I think the fact that for the most part except for personal score we mostly agreed
with the scoring of this movie. So I definitely moved it on a faster pace. We didn't really
have any I don't want to say corals but any like oh hey I mean like you feel that way
but in my opinion I feel this way. So yeah this was quick. Yeah. Definitely was Sam.
Very. You are honestly just as surprised as we are. Yeah. It is not like especially with
how late of a start we got. Yeah seriously. It's been a hot minute since we've had an
episode that's like barely reached over an hour. Dude our short episodes are at least
an hour forty five. Yeah. Like very very seldom have we ever had one that's not even an hour
and a half. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. I picked the wrong day to not give her shit. You did. Damn.
You did. It's OK. Oh yeah. But yeah. So I guess with that that wraps up this week's
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guess. Yeah. That should just be the subtitle. Yeah pretty much. So I'm excited to check
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esque film. I know did I mean from what I hear if he can do a Seth MacFarlane was able
to do with a Star Trek kind of thing. Hopefully it's good. Yeah. So fingers crossed I haven't
seen anything about it. I haven't seen reviews trailers nothing. I'm what was it called again
I already forgot what it's called. Rebel moon rebel moon. OK. I got to remember that. Yeah.
So yeah you guys can catch that next week. Until then this has been the all bros podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we'll catch you guys next week. Deuces so long.