What's up bros, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast, we're going to be talking about our weekly watches what me and
Caleb have been up to this week with with movies.
Spoiler alert, really not that much because we've kind of more so been focusing on TV,
but we don't really we don't really we don't really talk about TV shows here.
But so that's why our our movie, I guess, movie lineup isn't that big.
But you know, that's OK.
It happens sometimes.
But then after that, we'll begin right into our breakdown of the evening, which will be
our breakdown of the 2024 musical version.
It's not a remake.
It's a musical adaptation on the Broadway musical of Mean Girls.
So it is going to be so fetch.
Stop trying to make fetch happen, Rose.
I'm going to make it.
I'm going to make sure it happens by the end of this podcast, this podcast, this episode.
So be ready to hear fetch a lot.
OK, oh, shit.
So yeah.
What do you say we get this fetching thing started?
Let's do it.
We already ruined it.
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Alright, so jumping straight into weekly watches.
This week Caleb and I only watched one movie each, which is kind of sad for us.
But you know what, that's okay.
We were both focused on watching Ted.
That's where most of our time went.
Yeah.
Well, technically you watched two.
I watched one.
All right.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
So it was a slow movie week for me for sure.
And it was it was Rose's fault because yeah, he freaking turned me on to Ted and holy balls.
The show is hilarious.
So good.
If we never got a Ted three, but this is even better.
This is so much better.
Ted, the series is amazing.
If you guys haven't checked it out, go watch it on Peacock.
Like seriously.
It's already it's most streamed original show.
Me and Caleb aren't surprised at all.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is that freaking good.
But talking about what we actually did watch movie wise, I watched an orbit.
I have not seen this movie honestly since I was a kid.
Like when I saw that I have apparently I was a weird, not weird kid.
Well, actually I was a kid.
I'm not even going to try to say I wasn't.
But I had a tendency to see very raunchy comedies with my grandma in theaters because there
was this don't mess with the Zohan little man.
Like the list goes on and on.
And so like I remember I remember really liking this movie when I was a kid.
I loved it.
I thought was hilarious.
Eddie Murphy was amazing in the three roles that he plays.
And the only thing that's still taste stays true to that statement is the part that Eddie
Murphy is great in all three roles that he plays.
I can do without Mr. Wong because nowadays I find him.
I'm not going to talk about it.
Some problems with that performance.
Let's just say it hasn't aged well.
Yes, there we go.
But when it comes to Eddie Murphy as an orbit and Sputia, I freaking love him in these roles
just as much as I did when I was a kid.
He freaking is hilarious in these in these roles, like seriously, like the prosthetics
are amazing.
They freaking blow my mind.
What drags it down is everybody.
Everything else like the story is not good.
It's so mean spirited.
Like oh my God.
And the supporting cast is so wasted.
Fannie Newton, Cuba Gooding Jr. and Terry Crews.
So so wasted in their roles.
Terry Crews tries to make his work and make it funny, but just it just doesn't.
Unfortunately.
That in that case, you know that shitty writing because Terry Crews is awesome in everything
that he does.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah, just it really sucks that like it's it's not as good as I remember.
But like I said, the biggest positive or maybe the only really the only positive you could
say is just Eddie Murphy is great in these two specific roles as an orbit and Sputia.
He is even though like Sputia is such a she's so mean spirited and such an asshole than
orbit.
But he he just doesn't.
He just his acting going off of each other is just so well.
And the fact that he plays these two roles just blows my mind.
So yeah, but unfortunately, like, excuse me for everything else that doesn't work.
Like I can't really even recommend like, oh yeah, go stream it right now.
Like if you really don't have any if like you're looking for like a comedy that's just
like maybe like worth a one one watch.
If you've got nothing better to do, there you go.
Maybe watch Norbert.
And it's it is on Paramount Plus right now if you guys want to check it out.
But just hang on for I'm sorry to say it gets nothing better to do.
Man, that sucks because I feel like this is one of those I won't even say it's like primetime
Eddie Murphy.
But this is like when I think of Eddie Murphy, this is like the period of time that I think
about with him.
I will say, though, and this is probably frickin hot, hot take here, his portrayal of these
two characters when it comes to him playing characters and like prosthetic special effects.
I like him in the as these characters more than I liked him in the 90 professor films.
Really?
Yeah, I know.
That's a hot take.
I'm probably going to get some hate for that.
But that's just my opinion.
That's insane.
Oh, here come all the hate comments.
Just the nutty professor fans just coming for me.
I can feel it.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
So following that up, the other movie that you watch and the only one that I ended up
watching this week or this past week was Saltburn, the most probably the most uncomfortable movie
that I have ever watched.
Easily the most uncomfortable movie that I've ever watched.
So for those of you that don't know, and I know we didn't frickin make like an announcement
about it, we definitely like we need to remember to do that next time.
Yes.
But we took part in plunging five a cause and we broke down this movie.
And I cannot say that I regret anything more.
The breakdown itself was great.
Like, yeah, we had a fantastic time.
Like, I think DJ regrets it more than we do.
I don't know about that.
I think I'm on the same level as frickin DJ.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I might be a little something scarred into my brain and I'm like, oh, man, it sucks.
Because I think maybe I'm just like a little above you guys.
But like, are we allowed to do we do we do spoilers for weekly watches or do we try to
stay away from them?
Now we.
Yeah.
The salt burns one.
Like, I think the weaker stream, it's in below, like, whatever.
Those are free game.
I think the stronger stream, it's an above those ones.
Like we try like a vote, try to avoid.
Okay.
So the biggest problem that I have with this movie, well, there's a lot.
But I was.
Yeah, right.
So I was actually kind of for the most part, I was intrigued at the beginning of this movie.
Like how did I mean to what?
Well, I thought the character that Barry Keegan Keegan, however, God, I was script was last
name was playing.
I feel was he was kind of interesting the way that they were telling a story, you know,
him meeting up with not meeting up, becoming friends with.
Oh my God.
What was his name again?
Excuse me.
Felix Felix.
Him becoming them forming a friendship was, you know, it was it was it was it was kind
of entertaining.
I was I was I was interested.
It completely frickin lost me when he drank his semen water.
Oh, shit, dude.
Like yeah, if you there is a there is a scene where he listens to.
Felix jerking off in the bathtub and then after Felix leaves, as the water is almost
drained, he drinks his cum filled water.
And it is one of the most uncomfortable scenes that I have ever seen.
Yep.
And that that should tell you everything you need to know about this movie, because guess
what?
It's even the worst thing that happens.
Oh, man, just.
Yeah.
So we discussed that on plunging five a cause we did a full breakdown for it.
I don't know if you're if people are going to be able to go back and like listen to that
over that was just like a live thing only.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, we'll find out.
Like we'll find out what the what the situation is or what the status is on on that.
And then I don't know, maybe we'll we'll make it a either bonus if we can like pull that
like we'll see.
We'll see.
Yeah.
But I mean, we'll spoil it later down the line, like in terms of like the breakdown
we did.
But yeah, this movie was uncomfy.
And that's not the most uncomfortable scene.
No, that's that.
I'll say that definitely is like top five, but there's a top five for sure.
Yeah.
Whatever you think about this movie or whatever your your feelings are about what Rose just
said, just amplify that by like a hundred.
And that's about as comfy as you're going to be watching this movie.
Yeah.
So we are giving that a nothing better to do, because this is something that we will
never watch again.
No, this is something like there are some movies that I've watched that like if you
were to ask me like that have been it's been so long since I've seen them.
Like if you were to ask me, oh, have you seen this movie?
I'd have to think about it, about whether or not I've seen it.
And it's kind of like the Norbert situation.
I feel like I've seen it.
I'm not 100 percent sure.
But this is a movie that if someone says, hey, have you ever seen Saltburn?
Instant.
Yeah, unfortunately.
This like it will be like 50 years down the line.
Like, hey, grandpa, like, have you ever seen this movie?
I sure did.
And how do you know what that movie is?
So yeah, it no bueno, no bueno.
And like we discuss it in our little breakdown of it.
It's not necessarily that the movie is creepy or like that it has weird stuff like that.
It's just poorly structured.
The story is just it's not great.
Yeah.
And once like there's the motivations that these characters have is is nonexistent.
Like and I feel that because I'm sure that there's got to be at least one person that,
you know, talking about, you know, like the drink and the scene, the water and everything.
They're just going to be like, oh, well, you know, you guys just don't get it.
You're not gay.
You know, you're straight.
And I will I will back our statement up being like I'm bi.
And even I think that that's fricking weird.
Dude, setting the orientation aside, that's weird for anyone.
No, I agree.
Oh, I absolutely agree.
But you know that there's going to be at least one person that's just like, oh, you guys
just don't you just you just don't get it.
Like some people are into that stuff.
OK, first, if you do get it, go seek help.
Yeah, please go see a therapist because y'all need it.
Yeah, not trying to like, yuck, anyone's young here, but no, just no.
Oh, man, I just wanted to fricking point that out, because like there's got to maybe not
on our podcast, but like there's probably at least one person out there just like, oh,
you just don't get it because, you know, you you don't you're absolutely correct on that,
sir.
I do not get it.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
And I'm bisexual.
So there you go.
Yeah.
No, thanks.
Oh, dude, honestly, listen, this this has nothing to do with like, like personally, this has
nothing to do about like the whole gay, straight or sexual orientation for me.
I try to.
OK, let me let me think of how I want to word this.
I love my wife more than anything in the world.
I would rather stab myself in the leg with a very, very blunt knife than drink her her
bath water.
You could not pay me enough to do that.
I love that answer.
That's true love right there.
Folks you are listening to true love right there.
Yeah.
No, just no.
It's weird.
It is weird.
It's just again, this is with someone that I spend my life with that has seen me at my
worst and I have seen her at her worst.
I will never drink her bath water.
And gosh, this is a weird discussion to have, isn't it?
A little bit.
I'm sorry if I open doors bringing that up.
This is why I'm saying it has nothing to do with like, oh, it's just a kink.
No, this is a mental health problem.
Very much so.
If you guys if you guys do watch the movie, there's a part way more down the line that's
even more of a health mental health problem.
Yeah.
For not just the character for the actor.
Yeah.
Barry, my boy.
What were you thinking?
Just oh my gosh, just bro.
What is that?
You were getting paid extra for coming.
I know.
It's not like you were getting paid extra for coming.
I know.
I think that's what throws me just like you did that.
That was extra credit without the credit.
Dude, straight up.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Saltbird.
Don't watch it.
Or, you know, unless you got yourself the trouble.
If you really want to, I guess, go for it, but like be prepared for one of the most uncomfortable
movies that you will probably ever experience in your life.
Yeah.
And we'll attempt to get our hands on the little breakdown we did.
Maybe release it as a bonus episode or whatever.
But yeah, it is no bueno.
No, not at all.
Yeah.
And yeah, with that, that's everything that we've watched this.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's it for weekly watches.
So Caleb, what do you say we get into our breakdown of the evening?
I say let's do it.
And to celebrate this being Mean Girls, I say we change our tune a little bit.
There we go.
Because on Tuesdays we wear pink.
I know it's Wednesdays.
I know.
I know it's Wednesdays, but we record these on Tuesdays.
So Tuesdays are on Tuesdays.
Our backgrounds are pink.
Yeah.
Well, OK, we're not live streaming this.
We do sometimes record on.
I mean, if you didn't say anything, we could have lied.
God damn it.
Son of a bitch.
You know, I really should have worn pink.
I should have worn my pink polo that I have.
God damn it.
Yeah, I don't hold anything pink yet.
OK, I got an idea.
When after the Mean Girls episode comes out and everything, we get your amazing art that
you design.
When it comes to our tea public shop, do they offer pink in hoodies?
No.
Damn it.
I was going to say I'm going to buy both of us a pink hoodie and we're going to sport
that the next time that I'm there.
But on a Wednesday, of course.
I think that that would only make sense with the mean or within the context of like going
to see Mean Girls.
No, no, no, no, no.
We can just start wearing pink all the time on Wednesdays.
This movie pushes us to do that now every single week.
I mean, it might be pushing you a bit harder than it's pushing me.
But Caleb's a party pooper.
Wow.
I'm asking to do one thing for the Albrows and he won't do it.
Actually, he does so much for the Albrows, so I can't really say that.
Oh, shit.
Anyway, getting into our breakdown of Mean Girls.
Caleb, I can't remember.
Did we post a question of the week?
We recorded one.
No bueno.
No, OK, so what ended up happening with that is I was like I was posting catch up stuff
and then I thought I posted the question of the week until I checked like before we recorded.
Oh, I was like, oh, damn it.
Oops.
OK, yeah, we recorded it.
I just forgot to post it.
It's all good.
Well, anyway, then moving on to the next segment of the breakdown, Caleb, do you want to let
people know how we break down movies on this podcast?
I would love to.
All right.
If you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final Albrows letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
So if you have not seen Mean Girls 2024, you're probably fine as long as you've seen the original
Mean Girls.
Yeah, they don't really add any.
Did they really add anything?
Not just just the music.
Yeah, just the music.
Yeah.
So there's not much to spoil as long as you've seen the original Mean Girls.
If you have or if you haven't seen that, then yeah, there's going to be spoilers ahead in
our favorite segment.
So I'm going to post the spoiler warning now.
But yeah, in our favorite segment that we like to call reading with Rose.
Why is it everyone else's favorite segment except for mine?
Well that's how these segments work, Rose.
Well, I don't like that.
Well too bad.
All right.
16 year old homeschooled Katie Heron moves back to the United States from Kenya with
her mother and attends North Shore High School.
Katie befriends outsiders Janice Imiki.
Did they ever say how this pronounce her last name?
Not that I caught.
Okay, so we're just going to go with Janice and Miki.
I hope that's right.
And Damien Hubbard, who introduced her to the various cliques and warn her to avoid
the plastics.
Who?
Oh my God.
Who consists of the doubtful Gretchen Wieners, unintelligent Karen Shetty and Queen Bee Regina
George.
Regina invites Katie to join the plastics.
I'm sorry, caddy.
My bad.
Apologies.
Janice uses this as an opportunity to convince caddy to infiltrate the group for her.
Caddy can.
Okay, I can't do it.
Katie becomes attracted to Aaron Samuels, a senior in her calculus class and Regina's
ex boyfriend.
Katie tells Gretchen and Karen that she likes Aaron who who warn her that he is off limits
as he is dated Regina.
Katie goes to Regina's house with the plastics and Regina's mom finds her old burn book,
a scrapbook, the plastics filled with cool content about students and staff at the school.
Katie tells Janice and Damien about the burn book and they explain that Janice and Regina
were once friends but fell out after Regina outed Janice as a lesbian to the school.
I I really appreciate that even though we don't, you know, like actually see a flashback
or anything, we actually see the whole this time around of like the true fallout between
Regina and Janice.
So I actually really appreciate that, that that they added that.
I did too.
Like it was something I had to double check.
I'm like, did we ever get that backstory?
But yeah, so very happy that they that they gave us that.
Katie begins to initially intentionally fall fail math to get closer to Aaron who invites
her to his Halloween party.
Regina discovers Katie's crush on Aaron and in a fit of jealousy, flirts with Aaron before
kissing him in front of Katie realizing Janice was right about Regina.
She agrees to commit to her plan to ruin Regina's reputation.
Katie tricks Regina into eating weight gain cal team bars to lose weight and replaces
her face cream with lard.
The trio target Gretchen's insecurities by having a candy cane Graham sent to Katie on
Regina's behalf, making Gretchen think Katie is her new best friend.
Gretchen reveals Regina secrets to Katie, including her cheating on Aaron with football
player Shane Omen.
Regina's reputation takes a further hit after a disastrous performance at the winter talent
show leads to viral embarrassment with Regina's social status plummeting.
Katie.
Wow.
Sorry.
Which leads to Regina's social status plummeting and Katie becomes the new queen bee.
Janice invites Katie to her art show, but Katie tells her she has to travel with her
mom on a business trip.
However, Katie later convinces her mom to let her stay home and secretly throws a house
party where she drunkenly admits to Aaron that she has been deliberately failing math
to get closer to him and rebukes Katie for becoming as manipulative as Regina and storms
out.
Katie follows him out and is confronted by Janice who confronts her on being as cat as
catty as Regina.
Katie accuses Janice of being in love with her and Janice responds that Katie has become
fully plastic renouncing their friendship.
I don't think she, she actually says the line.
It's not like you're in love.
It's like you're in love with me or something.
I swear she says something else.
No, she says that like, like obsessed.
That's that's the, that that's the term that Regina used with Janice, like when they were
back when they were friends.
And the reason that she was saying that is because she was like lesbian and that's like,
oh, she loves me.
So I guess it kind of goes hand in hand.
So it was just like that assumption.
Okay.
And so it was just that terminology.
That was what Regina had used.
So I think that that's why it was just like, oh, because she's like in love with her or
whatever.
Okay.
At least that's how I figured it.
No, that makes sense.
Regina discovers that she, Regina discovers she was not invited to the party and that
Katie lied about the Calteen bars.
She adds herself into the burn book and deliberately drops it in the school hallway.
Upon the discovery a right, you know, during this part when, you know, she, you know, just
drops the burn book and said, you know, making copies and everything thrown around the school.
I'm just like, wait, then how the hell are people going to get the spread?
And everyone starts taking out their phones like, duh, Jonathan, it's 2020.
It's the 2020s.
I did that there.
That was honestly one of my favorite things that they did are the changes that they made.
I never really liked how she went and posted picture or posted everything around the school
because I was like, that's a lot of work.
Yeah.
And then this, it was just simple.
It was like borderline elegant and it would spread like fricking wildfire.
And I'm like, fantastic.
That's how it should have been done.
But obviously that couldn't have been the case back in whatever.
What, what, what was this other 2000?
No, 2004, 2004.
Yeah.
That, that wouldn't have worked in 2004.
Sorry.
Wow.
She is upon the discovery, right?
It breaks out among the junior girls over the rumors in the book.
Principal Duvall and math teacher, Ms. Norbury organized the junior girls into the gymnasium
to find the source of the book.
Ms. Norbury stages a cathartic intervention, encouraging the girls to apologize to each
other about their treatment of others.
Janice speaks out and reveals the whole plan to take revenge on Regina who storms out in
anger and during a confrontation with Katie is hit by a bus.
The fricking, this one felt more violent than the, oh my gosh, dude.
Like I did you jump?
Yeah, I, yeah, I did.
I don't know.
Like the, the one in 2004, like it's like such a quick shot.
They just like, Oh, fricking you see her body move with the bus.
You're just like, Oh my God.
Dude, like I, I'll be real.
I forgot that that was coming until they were like outside.
I'm like, Oh, she, like she's about to get hit by the, and then boom, like the bus comes.
I'm like, Oh shit.
I'm glad that they were able to surprise me again with that.
No dude, same here.
Yeah.
I did not expect to get a fricking jump scare from the fricking bus.
So fricking kudos to them.
They did great with that.
I think, I think what throws you off because is because, you know, their fight is happening
in the background while you're listening to Janice's song.
That's the, I feel that's what throws you off.
Like you, you're not focused on the fight.
Oh, there's no dialogue this time around, which I fit, which is perfectly fine.
Cause the song that Janice sings is great.
So the fact that you're focused on Janice and you're not really focused on Regina and
Katie.
So yeah, fricking when the, when the bus comes, you're like, Oh shit.
Yeah, I forgot that, that, that that's supposed to come in this scene.
They handled that beautifully.
They did.
Oh God.
Katie realizes the damage she has done and takes full responsibility for the book leading
to her.
Oh my God.
Excuse me.
I'm so sorry.
Leading her to be suspended for three weeks.
Ms. Norbury offers Katie a way to earn extra credit by joining the math fleets at stage
championships and Katie redeems herself after helping the team win at the spring fling.
Katie reconciles with Regina and is elected spring fling queen, but snaps a plastic crown
and gives pieces out to the girls, telling them that they are all special in their own
way.
Katie apologizes to Janice and Damien who accept her back as their friend and makes
amends with the plastics.
Katie also makes up with Aaron as they kiss.
I will admit there were, there were some changes with, with the plot that I liked that like,
cause yes, you know, like they, it's the same, it's the same movie, you know, it's the same
plot, but they do make some changes.
I mean, of course, you know, with it being a musical adaptation of the musical from Broadway,
that's like the hugest difference, but they do tweak some things that I, I, I really liked,
like I like how the ending is, it just ends at the spring fling.
Whereas in the original you see them like in their own clicks, uh, back at school.
Um, and then like they introduced like the new plastics and they joke about them getting
hit by a bus.
Like I, I like that this one just ended at the spring fling.
I think it would have been, it would have felt odd to introduce new plastics.
Um, one thing that I really liked that was that, um, Regina at the end, like at the spring
fling was fricking like doped up.
He's like, I like you, but I'm really Medicaid right now.
So I like everybody.
The fact that she misses the ground when she throws it to her.
Dude, I, that was such a lovely piece of comedy.
It's so great.
It's fantastic.
I freaking loved that.
At that freaking that.
And then they had, um, the, the mom get in with the pictures and she's freaking like
she was having some intimate shots with, uh, what was his name?
Um, uh, Sean or Shane, Shane, Shane, Shane Owen or yeah, um, like damn woman.
Yeah, dude, that was as funny as hell.
Yeah.
Oh man.
This like, oh, sorry.
No, I was just saying like they're, they're, they, they, like the changes that they did
make were really well done, but I think they knew what to touch and what not to.
Yes.
Cause like all of the classic lines and stuff like, uh, like hop in loser.
We're like, we're going shopping or we're dude.
The way that Renee rap says that line and like what the glass is like pulled down.
I'm like, damn girl, slay dude.
She can't wait to talk about what acting.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
She, but I mean just talking about story first getting like right into it.
This, this was really well executed.
This I'll say this.
There were some things about the original that I feel they, they just couldn't quite
match.
That's fair.
Which, I mean, which tracks, like we kind of expected that to be the case, right?
Yeah.
Um, but the things that they, they added or changed or whatever, those were really welcome
changes.
Agreed.
Like the update about how the burn book was spread or like I said, Regina being doped
up at, at spring fling and, um, like just those little items too.
I feel like the, uh, everything just kind of like pulled together really well again.
And it's because they knew what to touch and whatnot too.
Apparently.
And I think this was really cool.
Um, when Janice and, um, Damien go to Katie's party and they pull up on his like fricking
grandma scooter.
Um, I had no idea that's actually from the, the Broadway version.
Uh, so they decided to bring that, bring that over from there.
And I love that they did that.
That's fricking awesome.
That's amazing.
Oh my gosh.
I loved the new Janice and Damien.
Dude is seriously like the fact that they were the narrators for this was even was way
better.
Like, Oh my God.
I, I loved them so much.
They were so good.
Yeah.
Um, how, how did you feel about the plastics this time around?
I liked them.
I did too.
Um, I will say maybe it's just me, the, and I know that they're not like real, like true
friends, but I don't know.
It felt like kind of more like a closer bond in the original than in this one.
That is absolutely true.
Um, I, I would say with, um, oh shit, I need to pull up their fricking names and stuff.
I am not going to remember, uh, 2024.
Okay.
So the one that played Gretchen, who was she originally played?
Was that Amanda Seyfried's character or was that Karen or was she Karen?
No, she was Karen.
She was Karen.
Okay.
The new Karen, I think was just a little too dumb.
I, dude, I felt the same way.
Like the first time we're introduced her and like, she like misses the straw and it goes
up her nose.
I'm like, okay, like, yeah, you're dumbing her up a little too much here.
She was never this dumb and the, like, and I know she was dumb, but just, I don't know
the way that they played her dumbness in the, in the original was, I feel way better in
this one.
Although her fricking song that she sings at the, the Halloween party, that was solid.
Yeah, that was a solid fricking song.
I did like the new Gretchen though.
I did too.
She added so much more dynamic to the character to the point where like, I felt more bad for
this Gretchen than I did in the original.
Dude, no joke.
No joke.
She was great.
They played on that panic of her so well.
Yes.
That, like I said, in the, in the, like, or like you just said in the original, I don't
think they, they quite pulled off as well as they wanted to, but this was done amazingly.
Yeah.
She was like so much so I like, there was a lot like of things that I understood better
because of this movie.
That's fair.
That is completely fair.
Like what, what, what are some examples?
So the biggest one obviously being Gretchen, but I'd say like the guilt trip that, what's
her face?
Katie did, or pulled on her parents to like stay home or whatever the case was for that.
I liked how that kind of played a factor.
Like she had to like guilt her mom into leaving her.
No, I, I honestly liked the parent relationship way more than this one.
I did in the first.
It was a lot more impactful.
Yeah.
And the, that was another change that after her suspension, the, in the original, it was
just she went back to school and kind of dealt with everything herself.
She never really discussed all that stuff with her parents.
And so like the discussion that she had with her, her mom here was great.
Yes.
And how she was wanting to run away.
And I love the, the line that, that she gives the living here, you're learning things that
I can't teach you.
And I'm like, that's amazing.
Yeah.
Like that, that's fricking, I love that.
I love that little addition.
So yeah, loved, loved that change.
Freaking loved Janice and Damien.
I love the little like throw or the, the lines where, are like when Katie or when Regina
was using the lard face cream stuff.
And she's like, where did you get this?
And the, just the little like flashback to Janice and Damien putting lard in there and
just like, ding, like that.
I love that.
I love those little comedic bits that they were able to throw in with those two.
Those two were fantastic.
They were.
They were so, so good.
Yeah.
I feel like, and correct me if I'm wrong, did they make Aaron an asshole in the, the
other one?
Not really.
I mean, honestly, I feel like his characters played the same in this one.
Okay.
I wasn't sure.
Cause I was remembering for whatever reason that he was like, like an asshole.
No.
And like trying to like fool around with Katie when she was, or not fool around.
I was remembering for whatever reason that he was like a shitty character or ended up
being shitty.
And it, it would play it off a bit different this go round where when Regina was like seducing
him, it like, it played a lot better in this.
It did.
And I think the song definitely, definitely helped with that scene.
Cause yeah, the original, all of a sudden, you know, Regina's telling him about how,
you know, Katie like has a journal that says I heart Aaron Samuels and I was, I appreciated
in this one, like she didn't like say any of that kind of stuff.
She's like, you know, like, you know, she, she's my friend and you know, I think she,
she really has a huge crush on you and she really just leaves it at that.
She doesn't like try to be like, oh, you know, like she does this, this, this, and this,
like it's, it's kind of cute, but it's a little creepy.
So I appreciated that they didn't like push it to that level.
The, in the original, literally she says that, and then she just goes and all of a sudden
just kisses him.
And so I feel in this one, there's a lot more better buildup to them getting back together
and the song, the song that leads into it is definitely a huge help.
Yeah.
Like I think the songs were able to improve on the, on the scenes like that a lot.
And so it was able to make the story make a little bit more sense, make it flow a little
bit better than maybe the original did.
I will still say, I do think overall, the original is like, you can't beat the original.
No, you can't.
But this was a pretty solid like follow up.
Yeah.
This can proudly stand on a pedestal right next to the original.
Yeah.
I wish we got more cameos though.
Dude, seriously.
I thought the same, like, cause we get a cameo from Lindsay Lohan in this.
She plays the math math, wow.
The math contest announcer.
But yeah, I was hoping we would get one from Amanda Seyfried, the girl that played Gretchen,
Frickin, even the original Regina George.
Yeah, I was hoping for like all four of them to cameo.
I don't know if Rachel McAdams would have.
I think, okay.
So I know I know good, fair point.
Did you see that like interview where like they were, they were asking her about like
the Walmart commercial and she said that if she would have known that the other three
were coming back that she would have gladly done it.
Cause she would have loved to.
So that was my reference.
I'm like, well, she didn't do the Walmart commercial.
So I figured like maybe she's just not like into doing that role again.
No, if they didn't even approach her about it, that's a completely separate thing.
So I think they did.
So they approached her about the, uh, the commercial, but she's like, I don't really
want to do a commercial because I guess she just doesn't like doing them.
But she was never told when she was pitched the commercial that, oh, Hey, we're getting,
we're getting the other three back.
She was never told that she didn't.
She wasn't told it was going to be a plastics reunion.
So she was told that she would have gladly come back and had been a part of it.
But unfortunately she wasn't told, she wasn't told that at the time.
Um, but yeah, fricking like I was cause like I saw that there was an end credit scene.
So I'm like, Oh, okay.
You know, they, that'd be really cool if like maybe they incorporate all four of them into
that.
What a let down.
Dude, right.
Dude, that part was in the fricking trailer.
You could be really hot if we have fixed like everything.
And then that sounds like, so like literally I, I'm not saying I wasted time watching the
credits cause I love watching, you know, seeing what, how many people worked on, on these
films.
But the fact that it was a fricking clip that I saw in the goddamn trailer, like, yeah,
that was, that was one of the most pointless end credit scenes I've ever seen.
Dude, I would have, I would have much preferred for it to just go black after that.
Like, are you kid, I like out loud was just like, come on.
No, I got off home just like, okay.
So the same clip I saw in the commercial in the trailer.
Okay.
Thank God I was the only one left in the theater.
Cause I said a little too loud.
Yeah, that was, that was some horse shit.
Yeah.
That was wasted, wasted opportunity.
Like I would have really liked for like, this is personally what I would have done.
I would have had like Lindsay Lohan come and like sit down at a bar and then all like the
four of them are at the table and then like, and then have like the, the one girl who kept
trying to make fetch happen, have her say fetch.
Yes.
Like that's what I would have done.
And then like had the whole like, stop trying to make fetch happen.
Boom.
Done.
That's what that's, that would have been the perfect, just like, ah, love it.
That would have been perfect.
I would have loved that.
But unfortunately we got what we got.
Yeah.
Jeez.
So yeah, that, that was a bummer.
That was a big bummer.
But I mean the overall, like the, uh, the flow of this movie was really good.
It dude, it was fricking from the, like when they started, like the first, uh, song, like,
I don't know, like throughout, like I just, there were moments that I could just not stop
smiling like I had such a great time with this one.
I did too.
This was, this was good.
And dude, like, did you, have you seen the videos going around on tick tock of people
like recording, um, the audience reaction to it being a musical?
I have.
Thankfully, they do it to like the third song.
Yeah.
It's like, dude, the movie, like literally the movie first second starts with a song.
Yeah.
Like what did you think?
Like you're just reacting to it now.
Yeah.
Cause I was expecting that to be like the first song.
I'm like, wow, that's kind of deep into the story before they do a song.
Yeah, dude.
Right.
And then like, I went and watched it.
Yeah.
Went to go see it today.
And I was just like, that's horse shit.
Yeah.
Like, you know, it's a musical by now, like they don't keep it a fricking secret until
that point.
I, dude, I was honestly with the audience that I was with today, which honestly kept
today with me.
Girls, one of the best theater experiences I've ever had.
Oh, that's awesome.
There was nobody on their phones.
Nobody talked.
It was fantastic.
But there were like some old people that were around me.
And I, I honestly was just waiting for one of them to let out a big, when they found
I was a musical, no fricking, so like there was a couple in front of me and then a three
old elderly ladies to, to like, kind of like in front all the way to the left, they were
fricking getting into it.
They were enjoying it.
I loved it.
But then what shocked me is there wasn't a lot of like laughter at the, the jokes that
were in the movie.
Like the only people that laughed, I felt in the theater were me and like the guy that
was a little ways down on the same row.
Like we were the only people that laughed.
It's like, dude, that always makes me super self conscious, dude, right?
I'm just like, okay, like it's, this is funny, right?
I think this is funny.
Dude, that made me like, that's the same situation that I had.
So the, my theater was practically empty other than these two, I'm assuming that they were
friends and I felt weird coming in to the theater because I was wearing like, like I
just, I was wearing a jacket.
I was wearing dark colors and like going to check out mean girls.
Like I felt a little like self conscious about it.
They'd never feel so conscious for a movie.
No, I felt self conscious about it because they like, as soon as I came in, they were
like eyeballing where I was sitting.
Oh, I hate it when people do that.
Yeah.
So, and I think it was because they felt like they were in danger or something.
Oh my God.
But yeah, I was laughing pretty hard at some of this stuff and they were not laughing at
all.
It's hilarious.
Right?
It's so good.
I'm like making me feel like a weirdo.
Right.
Okay.
I have to know though, did they wear pink?
No.
Wow.
I don't think.
Don't worry.
Nobody in my, uh, in my theater were pink either.
Well, it is Tuesday.
So that's true.
You know what?
You're right.
Oh man.
But yeah, it was a solid story.
I liked what they were able to do and like this was definitely one of the more musicals
I would have had issues with if they would have not made the music part of the storytelling.
That's fair.
But the fact that they were able to push the story forward using the music was a big benefit
in my eyes.
Cause I hate when it's just like, Oh, taking a quick pause to tell it or to sing this,
this song.
Yeah.
There's like random song that has no bearing on the story whatsoever.
Like every song felt necessary to the plot.
So I, I'm not quite in the nineties with this yet.
That's fair.
I'm not either, honestly.
Yeah.
Where are you sitting at?
I don't know dude, like I, this is, this is how you do an update to a classic.
Even though, like I said before, this is, this isn't really even considered a remake
cause it's an adaptation of the musical.
But like, this is like a perfect example of how you make a, you, you bring a movie back
for a new audience that can hopefully appreciate the story all over again.
And they did such a great job.
So I think I'm at an 88.
I am like right there with you.
I'm sitting at an 87.
All right.
Next up we got writing.
Writing was pretty solid here too.
It was not bad.
Like I like, don't worry.
I feared Regina George in the original.
Like I fear both of them, but like the way that she's written in this one, Oh damn, she's
okay.
I, and this is probably an act and an acting thing.
I am with you.
I, I, so I didn't quite feel the level of intimidation for the Rachel McAdams, Regina
George that I felt for this version of Regina George, dude, she killed it, dude.
Right.
The fact that she she's come, she, oh my God, she played Regina George on the Broadway version
of this.
So they just brought her into the movie version.
Great call.
It was perfect.
Like Oh my God.
She, she, I mean, I've never seen the Broadway adaptation, but from what I've seen, I'm sure
she didn't miss a goddamn beat.
Because I, I would be surprised if she did cause yeah, like, dude, honestly, if someone's,
if it ever comes out that they're just like, Oh, well she didn't give a strong of a performance
as she did in the on Broadway.
I'd be like, I need tickets to that immediately.
You're telling me she did better on Broadway.
Like she, yeah, she killed it.
Like I, like I said, I never really felt that intimidation for Regina before.
And this like, it was immediate too.
I was just like, like I was uneasy.
This second, she was like, Oh shit.
And it is that the song helps so much.
Like the way they're just like, Oh my God, it's her.
Don't look her in the eyes.
And you see her walk in and just, and you don't see her face yet.
And just, you, you hear her saying that my name is Regina George.
I'm like, I'm getting goosebumps.
Like shit.
Should I hide?
Funny enough, they weren't talking to Katie.
They were talking to the audience.
Oh man.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Frick it.
Yeah.
The, the, the intimidation and then like, as they like got along, the intimidation just
got like better.
Yeah.
Like seriously.
Like God, yeah.
Shoot.
Like I feel every character here, almost every character is expanded on from the original.
And I really appreciate that a lot.
I feel that.
And we've already talked about her.
I feel the one that like, I feel gets dumbed down way too much as Karen.
Yep.
Karen, I feel had a lot more character in the first one.
Cause you know, like I love that moment that she has with Katie where Katie's just like,
you're not dumb, Karen.
She's like, yeah, I am.
You know, they, they have a really nice talk about, you know, who, who Karen is.
Yeah.
Like here, you never see any of those moments.
And I'm not knocking the actress.
She does great with what she's given, but just, yeah, like out of everybody, she unfortunately
gets the short end of the stick.
Cause everybody, everybody else's character is, I feel gets way more, gets more depth
than they did in the original, especially Damien and Janice like, Oh my God, they were
amazing Gretchen.
Like you pointed out earlier, just, just ever everyone's character writing gets expanded
on from the original except for Karen.
Yeah.
I think like with expanding on everyone else, like there is someone that kind of has to
take a back seat to it.
And when you're doing something that's a little bit more emotional with Gretchen, like, yeah,
you kind of have to like, let someone go to the wayside.
And unfortunately that just happened to be Karen.
It's true.
I feel if I'm thinking of another one that his character is not ruined.
It's just, he stays the exact same as he was in the original would be Aaron's character.
Nothing really changes with him.
I would have minded less Aaron and more Karen.
Same honestly.
Cause like, I love the actress that they picked to play Karen.
Like what she did was great, but just, yeah, if we could have gotten some more moments
of like, honestly, even just like how, I don't know her connection with Regina and Gretchen
like would have added more to her character.
Yeah.
So the, the writing here I'd say is pretty on par, but I would say I'd put it a little
bit lower.
I'm with you there.
Not much though.
Like where I'm given story in 87, I'm probably going to give writing an 86.
I'm going to match you there.
I'm going to be an 86 too.
All right.
Next step we got acting.
So pulling up this cast list real quick.
All right, first off we have Angori Rice who played Katie Heron.
We have Renee Rapp who played Regina George.
Then we have, don't know how to pronounce that.
I think it's Owly Craval, Cravalo Ho, Cravalo.
I might, I hope I spelled it right.
I think it's Ali.
Ali.
I think it's Ali.
Cravalo.
Is this?
I can't, I could be getting it wrong.
Is this Moana?
Yes.
Oh, this is Moana.
Yep.
This is Moana.
Dude, I knew that voice sounded familiar.
Right?
Oh yeah.
All right.
Next we got Jaquelle Spivey who played Damien Hubbard.
Bay Bay Wood who played Gretchen Wieners.
I think it's Bebe.
Is it Bebe?
I think it's Bebe.
I think it's Bebe Wood who played Gretchen Wieners.
Oh man, I keep forgetting that her last name is Wieners.
That shit's hilarious.
I don't care.
It is.
It absolutely is.
Let's see.
Avantika who played Karen Shetty.
Christopher Briny who played Aaron Samuels.
Oh, he was the last one.
And Aaron Christopher Briny who played Aaron Samuels.
I didn't know if you wanted me to include the teacher.
So I just included the...
I'd say no.
They were in a decent chunk, but I think it was just shy of what I'd say is worth putting
on here.
Okay.
So yeah.
So what's your top three look like?
Oh God, this is so hard.
This is ridiculous.
This is one of the hardest because everyone does so good.
I think I have like an obvious number one and then a very, very close second.
And then number three, I'm like everyone else.
So is number one, I'm going to assume is number one, Renee Rapp.
Yes.
Okay.
Same here.
Okay.
So both of our number ones is Renee Rapp who played Regina George because she is queen.
She killed it.
Oh my gosh, dude.
Like I said, never felt that intimidation towards Regina George until her.
Everyone else is like, oh my gosh, she seems so mean and vicious like Regina from the OG.
I'm just like, does she though?
It just kind of seems like she's real bitchy.
But this one I'm like, yeah, I get how you could fall for that shit.
Like when she went and like scared that one girl, like when they were singing the apex
predator song and she like walks up and like scares that girl off.
I was like, oh shit.
Oh man.
Like yeah, that startled me too.
All right.
So both agree with number one, Renee Rapp.
Number two.
God, this is so hard.
I think number two, oh oops, sorry.
Yeah.
Number two, I'll go with Alihi Cravalho.
I loved her in, wow.
Her iteration.
I think that's the word I'm looking for.
Of Janice.
So in the first one, her name is Janice Ian.
I guess in this one they decided to change her last name.
Interesting.
Oh well.
But yeah, I loved her portrayal here of Janice.
She was amazing.
She on the fact that we got the story of what happened with her and Regina.
I feel that added so much more depth to honestly both characters, I mean her a little more
so just because you know, a lot more emotional for her.
And just, yeah, she just freaking killed it in every scene, every song she sang just was
phenomenal.
Like absolutely phenomenal.
So she gets number two.
Three, sorry, I'm going to say three and four just because they're so close.
Okay.
So number three, I'm going to give to B.B.
Wood for the sole fact that for how much she added to Gretchen Wiener's character because
she adds just so much more depth, emotion.
To understand more so why she wants to, why she wants to, oh my God, why she wants to
please Regina more in this version, which I appreciate a ton.
They did a fantastic job with that.
And she pulled out that music box and started giving the backstory on that.
Like the whole song that she gives after she opened that, I was just like, yo, that's heartbreaking.
Yeah, right.
Seriously.
Yeah, it's so sad.
She was fantastic.
Amazing as Gretchen.
But number four, like I said, it was a coin flip just because like because of her, like
the depth that she added to Gretchen, like she kind of she just she just slides past
this this one actor into into third.
But it's so close.
I mean, if I had to do four, I would give it to Jaquil Spivey, Damien, frickin stole
every single scene that he was in.
OK, you know, actually, no, I'm sorry.
I'm going to change up my order.
You know what?
Yeah.
You know what?
He's going to number two.
Ali Kravall is moving down to three.
And then Bibi Woods going to four.
I just he stole every single scene that he was in.
He was amazing.
I loved him to death and just die.
Yeah, I think I think I'm sticking with that.
Dude, you are not wrong.
I so I am actually in agreeance with you.
So number one was Renee.
My number two, I'm actually going to pair them as a duo was Ali Kravall and Jaquil Spivey.
They were the perfect dynamic duo like they were fantastic and absolutely zero complaints
from either of their performances.
Like they were so much frickin fun and like I'd say more so than the original.
Dude, I agree.
I absolutely agree.
Yeah.
So I like this duo.
It's funny how you like we could like I love when you're able to like pick and choose like
your favorites from the two.
So yeah, the this is like by a hair.
My favorite Damien and balls Janice.
My number four, I think I'm going to give to the lead and Gory Rice loved her as as
Katie.
Interesting that they were still trying to go the redhead route with her.
I mean, it worked.
I I don't know.
I thought she looked great.
I will.
Okay.
Well, I thought she looked great.
I wouldn't have considered her hair red, though.
That's fair.
Like I think that's something like you kind of need to go all out with that.
If you're going to call her a redhead like this, this was very like strawberry blonde.
If you got to go Lindsay Lohan read, like, come on.
I wouldn't say Lindsay Lohan.
You need to go a few shades redder than what you had.
This was like barely like when they were talking about how Katie was like the new up and cover,
the new Regina and everything.
And they're just like, oh, my gosh, should I go red?
And I was like, maybe she should first.
But yeah, that's more costume complaint than anything.
Yes.
But she was great.
I thought she added a lot of new life into into this character.
Absolutely agree.
She would have been my fifth.
Number five.
Yeah.
She she was great.
I loved her performance, how easily she was able to switch between her different strong,
stronger emotions.
Like I said, the conversation that she had with her mom, like the multiple, like how
she was able to like basically be like in tears, like I can't go with you.
I'm like, you want me to be a bad friend?
And I'm like, like, shit like this.
Like this, this, that's something that I would have felt my kid like if like once I figured
out that it was like a ruse and everything, I would have been like, I'm not believing
a damn thing you're saying ever again.
Like that was frickin Oscar worthy shit.
And I would have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Same.
So, yeah, it's like her pulling that was really funny.
More than her emotional moments with her mom, like felt very genuine to son is fantastic.
A lot more depth to the emotion.
I think she was able to portray than Lindsay Lohan was.
I agree.
And I feel that this one benefits.
I think I already said this.
It benefits a lot from it just being her mom, mom and her that the dad's not in the picture
this time around.
Yeah.
Oh, acting was pretty good.
Oh, dude.
So, so good.
Do Renee rap?
She was able to pull off the frickin jokes or like the comedic lines, like when she was
frickin doped up so well, dude, I forgot.
There's a line that she says when she's all doped up and I can't remember it for the life
of me, but it made me laugh so frickin hard.
Let me see if I'm hoping IMDb has some damn it.
It's only got one line.
Oh, lame.
I don't even remember.
But I knew it was that like the scene at the end when she's in the bathroom, she's just
like, like, I'm so doped I can't feel the thing.
Yeah, damn.
Ah, yeah, I can't.
The only part that I'm remembering from that is just when she's like, I like you, but I'm
opt up on meds.
I like everybody.
Yeah, it was like right before that.
It was like she says something that like just made me laugh.
Yeah.
And then, oh my gosh, dude, the frickin Christmas performance.
Like, she took that fall like a champ.
Dude, seriously, like, damn, like, holy shit.
Like, yeah, I like that they changed that in this one that, you know, like, it wasn't
like, oh, the like, you know, like the frickin music gets messed up.
And so they decided to actually start singing it and getting into it.
No, this this performance ends in frickin embarrassment.
Yeah, I appreciated that change.
I did, too, because I like like I said, I remember that being like, what was the thing
that made Regina not popular?
Was it the frickin burn book?
No.
So in the original, it's it's kind of like a lot.
It's how is it because they do change some things with how she becomes, you know, unpopular.
Yeah.
It's basically like a lot of the same, just, you know, the Gretchen and Karen says, oh,
you can't sit with us.
So they're not friends anymore.
I feel one thing that they definitely do change with Erin is that he actually does catch her
cheating in this one, whereas in the original, he's just told that she is cheating and he
believes it.
And so he breaks up with her, whereas in this one, he actually full on sees her cheating
on cheating on him.
And I really liked that change.
So it all basically plays out the same way.
Another change that I liked with this one when Gretchen finds out, not Gretchen, I'm
sorry, Regina finds out that the calcium bars are to gain weight, that her mom is the one
that finds out that what?
Oh my God.
It's her mom that tells them what they what they are, whereas in the original, she knows
what they're for.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Whereas in the original, it's her.
It's the other guy that she it's so it's not Erin.
It's freaking I forget the other guy's name.
I think he's a doctor.
No, no, no.
That she's on a date with the the other guy, the other football player.
Oh, Shane.
Yeah.
Shane Owen.
And he's just like, oh, yeah, the coach has us eat those if we want to gain five pounds
or like some shit like that.
Like, you know, you get the same message across, but I just like that in this one.
It was the mom that was telling her, oh, hey, you know, we use that to get to get your grandma
to gain weight when she's in the hospital.
And so, so yeah, but like, yeah, when it comes to Gretchen, you know, losing everything,
it basically the same thing, but just some things are tweaked.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Did I say Gretchen again?
I'm a G.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Gosh.
The so where are you sitting with acting?
This one's tough.
It is because everyone brings their egg.
Like I did not think that this cast could match up to the original, but they freaking
do.
And they definitely give them a run for their money.
They do.
And I didn't think that was possible.
So like, dude, like, what was what?
What got me going is it was everyone.
Yeah.
Like even the chick that like that didn't go to their school.
Oh, like what I like that they actually gave her a little bit of a reason to be there.
Yeah.
They're like, oh, I'm here for a track meet.
So yeah.
OK, that makes sense.
The fact that she she's singing at a spring fling later in a later scene is freaking hilarious.
Yeah, and Damien just like, oh, my gosh.
I love it because in the original, he when he says she doesn't even go here, he doesn't
he just nothing changes.
Whereas in this one, he actually like ducks down.
He says, oh, my gosh, dude, the freaking the shit that they were doing with that.
Like when when Katie like when they're in the auditorium and Katie looks over at at
the two of them and Janice Caesar like gets wide eyed and backs up and then he just like
the biggest fan like that's perfect.
That was her.
Faction.
Do you free that like the one she when Janice introduces him and says, you know, he's he's
almost too gay to function in the original.
You don't really hear him say anything after that.
Whereas in this one, he's like, yeah, but you know, I manage.
I'm just like, yeah, I love it.
He owns it.
Oh, man.
I think I'm I think I've cracked 90s barely, but I've cracked the 90s.
OK, so I'm sitting at a solid 90 with that thing.
I'm just I'm just a tad higher.
I'll go 91.
OK.
All right.
Next up, we got character development.
And I mean, this is I think this is pretty like on par with the original.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
I mean, the arc itself wasn't the best thing in the world.
It wasn't in the original either.
But I mean, the journey is is I'd say it's better explored in this one than the.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with you there.
Yeah, I feel that you definitely get to know a lot more of Katie as a person in this one,
I felt.
And like, I loved that that they kept
pointing out like, oh, hey, do you do you miss Kenya?
Do you miss Africa?
You know, like kind of brushing about her past, whereas like in the original, like you she
talks about Africa when she first gets schooled and that's it.
Yeah, it's really not brought up again throughout the whole movie, whereas in this one it's
it is brought up a couple of times throughout.
And I really liked that.
Well, I mean, so it's interesting with that, too, because in the this was brought up in
more of a storytelling fashion like that, her experiences in Kenya and all that good
stuff.
In the original, it was more.
Yeah, it was brought up once when she's like, oh, I'm the new girl.
And then anything else, I would say that's even kind of related to that period of time
is her narration.
Where she's like, I can't like treating it like a nature documentary.
Yeah.
High school and everything.
So this so this one, I feel like incorporated that aspect of her life a little bit better.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I'm also trying to think what else.
Yeah.
I mean, I would say that they improved the development of Katie's character.
Like I think what the thing that I never liked about the first was I feel like the the transformation
to plastic was pretty quick.
That is fair.
Where this it like we knew that a lot more time had passed and like they made it a little
bit easier to digest all of that.
And so when she is like full blown plastic, it makes sense.
Where like where Lindsay Lohan seemed like it took span in like a few weeks and then
her character completely shifted.
This set felt more like it was a year long endeavor.
Yeah, no, that's true.
So yeah, I mean, I'm bumping it a little bit like where with the original, I think I'd
give that about an 80.
OK.
This one, I probably sit in like 83 range.
You know, I think I met you there.
All right.
Next up, we got effects.
So this didn't have any like special effects, but this was like maybe stunt work.
Like one choreography, dancing choreography, like we'd include that.
Can we include like camera shots?
Yeah, cinematography, like anything in that that field.
One this was like at the beginning, the frickin, you know, like after Janice and I, I mean,
Janice and Damien are finished with the.
Oh my God, I forgot the name of the first song, cautionary tale after they sing that
song and like the frickin garage door opens and it leads into Africa.
It leads into Kenya.
That was frickin awesome.
That was a very cool transition.
That was an amazing transition.
And they and they pulled it off at the end, too.
Yeah, right.
I was like I was impressed.
I was genuinely impressed.
That was that was really good.
Holy ballsack, dude.
Janice's song.
Did you notice that was all frickin like a one shot?
Yes.
Holy shit.
That was incredible.
God, I love one shots.
They're like my favorite piece of any any cinema.
Dude, same here.
Like this.
That was a one shot that I didn't recognize was one until like way later.
And I was just like, yo, they haven't cut.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, I was like, hold up.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
Like they're always ones that like sneak up on me because it like it's like with that
one specifically, I was just like, yo, this hasn't cut yet.
And I like started recognizing it.
I'm like, oh my gosh, like it was insane.
And then just how they ended it with getting hit by the bus.
I was like, yo, that was fantastic.
Like I couldn't even imagine how long that must have taken.
Yeah, I did.
Right.
Like, apparently, I saw on TikTok, someone was there or like they filmed that scene by
their house and they were actually there when they filmed her getting hit by the bus.
But I didn't want to watch the clip because I was afraid it would ruin the movie.
So I got to go back and watch that and see how the behind the scenes that is.
Yeah, I'd love to see how they they handled that.
Like if they if someone like actually got like frickin hit or what the deal was with
that.
Yeah, very good to see how the stunt work was.
Yeah.
But I mean, the choreography in this was incredible.
Dude, frickin the core, like the two biggest ones that stand out for me are the choreography
and revenge party.
Oh my gosh, that was a great song.
And then frickin the choreography in Karen's Halloween song.
I like Karen's Halloween song.
I actually liked Regina's like the choreography and that how she was kind of like basically
being like a ghost and hiding around people and and all that stuff and then like making
things move to disorientate.
And like, I thought that was beautifully done.
That was awesome.
I can't like there's not a lot of songs or just choreography that doesn't work in this.
Seriously, I'd say the only one like if I had to complete with any of them, it would
be the apex predator one.
Seeing everyone kind of like throw around like animals.
That one was a little it took a minute for me to get used to it.
I will say, though, I like that that scene, you know, Gretchen telling Regina about Jason,
I like that that happens at school instead of at the mall like in the original.
I feel it worked better for it taking place at school.
Yeah.
But yeah, I do that.
I know we get that kind of a scene in the in the original when they're at the mall with,
you know, like them like acting like animals, but adding the music to it and what they had
to do like it takes you a minute to get used to it.
The song's great.
I love it.
But but you're just like, OK, all right.
OK, I'm ready.
OK, we're good.
Yeah.
The cinematography for this was awesome.
Like setting the the choreography aside, like I'd say choreography itself.
I'm on the high 90s.
Yeah.
Very high 90s.
Any but the cinematography was fricking beautiful, too.
I loved when Regina was in her room, like after she discovered what Katie had been doing
and how like it was just like lit by the red light.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
That was a great decision.
Yeah.
Yeah, that looked great.
And again, once like the revenge party, like dance and everything, like how bright and
vibrant all that was.
And it was awesome.
It was so fricking good.
So I I would say.
Where are you sitting?
I I'd say I'm probably sitting on 92.
I might be a tad higher sitting at like 93.
Nice.
All right.
Next up, we got music.
Oh, damn.
It's just the fact that we like I it's still I'm still in awe that we got such an incredible
musical in Wonka at the end of twenty three.
And then we got another great musical at the beginning of twenty four with Mean Girls.
It just fricking blows my mind and it just makes me happy.
Dude, it I am shocked that I enjoyed a musical as much as I did because I went in fully expecting
to not care for this.
And I was blown away.
The soundtrack was off the hook and like I've said before, the the thing that I'm always
looking for in a soundtrack that's incredible and this was an incredible soundtrack.
So I was sitting at a nine for a decent portion of this.
Like, OK, like totally think this is sitting at a nine.
And then they hit you with the frickin Regina George song and then revenge party for both
frickin bangers and like shit.
Like you've hit me like duo.
So I have a hard time not given this a 10.
I will.
I am happy to give it a 10 more than happy.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
So good.
Like so.
So the soundtrack here is frickin like I can't say enough good things about it.
Like, yeah, it's just so frickin good.
Yeah, nothing.
Nothing more to be said there.
All right.
Next up, we got costumes.
I thought these were good.
Like I appreciated that, you know, they definitely tried to carry some stuff over from the original.
Like I like that all the plastics except for Gretchen, which I don't think she really wore
hers in the original that like they also wear necklaces that relate to their names.
So Regina has one that says are Karen's actually says fully Karen.
And then of course, when Katie starts to become a plastic, she follows suit.
When it comes to the Halloween party, Katie still wears the the scary costume and is not
like any of the other other girls.
The fact that Gretchen just like if you don't dress slutty, you're slut shaming us.
I'm like, oh, my God.
Dude, they did a great job with these these outfits.
Like you said, keeping true to the movie.
Like I liked how Katie was wearing like that blue plaid shirt.
Yes.
So like that was like kept in in true original Mean Girls fashion.
And they had a lot of original outfits, but they didn't rely on them too heavily.
And so they were able to throw in some of their their own outfits, which I thought worked
really well.
One that I especially loved when Katie asked Janice and Damien, like, oh, do you guys have
anything pink?
And Damien says, oh, what shade?
And because in the original, it's just like a pink polo shirt.
I love that.
And this one not only is it like a pink button up shirt.
I think it was a button up shirt.
Was it just a picture?
I think it was like a pink shirt and then the big ass frickin vest.
Yeah, this is what the sweater vest.
I loved that so much.
Like yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah, it was just a regular pink t shirt.
But yeah, the frickin sweater vest.
I loved so much.
So like when it comes to like, oh, which like, I guess, like outfit iterations, did you like
more when it comes to like, oh, you know, Katie has to wear pink the first time Katie
wears pink on Wednesdays on a Wednesday.
This is my favorite favorite one out of the two, because I don't know, just it looked
great.
I loved it.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of other outfits that stood out.
They definitely went above and beyond.
I think where the original was probably sitting around a seven.
This one, I'd give a little bit of a bump.
So I'm probably going to end up giving this an eight.
I will.
I will match you.
I can't really justify giving it a nine because like nothing really like truly like just jumps
out to you.
But I do appreciate that they not only did they, you know, try to bring some aspects
from the original with the costumes, but they they in Britain, what's the word?
I guess.
Yeah, I guess they embraced on it.
They added to it.
There we go.
Yeah, dude.
I hate to say it, but I think where the or where the two thousand you said two thousand
four.
Yeah.
Where the two thousand four version is like just an iconic movie.
I think this one might be better put together.
You know what?
That's fair.
I can't argue with you with that.
Can we talk about how you know how we've said, you know, two thousand four and now two thousand
twenty four that that movie turns 20 years old, 20 years old this year.
Oh, no.
Does anyone else feel old?
Oh, man.
It doesn't make me feel too old because I was only eight years old when that got released.
Same.
So it's like I don't feel that old, but so don't feel that young either.
Oh, yeah.
I just love it.
I just love it, Caleb.
You know, this close to 30.
It's so great.
I love it.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Yeah.
But did.
All right.
Last up, we got our own personal score.
All right.
Who do you want to go first?
Up to you.
I want to hear your opinion first, if you're cool with that.
I I went into this movie fully expecting to not like it.
And I am so glad that I did.
I was blown away by how much I enjoyed this movie.
It was a great time.
I thought the humor was on point.
The every aesthetic that they wanted to hit was was beautifully done.
And like I said, really appreciated some of the artistic choices that they took with this.
It's definitely not like super high up on my list.
I definitely feel this is a better put together movie than maybe that I enjoyed.
So I think I'm going to end up giving this an eighty three.
It's not bad.
Yeah, absolutely agree with everything.
Caleb said this is a a great updated version of the original.
The fact that it's a musical adaptation of or I guess it's an adaptation of the musical
from Broadway.
Just it makes it feel more special.
It doesn't feel like it truly doesn't feel like just a remake, which I really appreciate
because the songs are amazing.
The cast is amazing.
Just everything is great here.
And I like I was very cautious about this movie.
Like I was hoping that it was going to be good for how much I love the original.
But yeah, I'm with Caleb just freaking blew the expectations out of the water.
And I walked out absolutely loving it.
So personal score, I think I'm just going to be a little above Caleb and I'm going
to go an eighty six.
All right.
Well with that.
All right.
Going through these scores real quick, starting off with story, we ended up averaging at an
eighty seven point five.
Writing ended up going a little bit down, sitting at an eighty six.
Acting got a pretty decent bump, sitting at a ninety point five.
Character development is sitting at an eighty three.
The effects is sitting at a ninety two point five, and that's one hundred percent due to
choreography.
The music is getting a ten out of ten, as most musicals tend to do on this show.
That's true.
The costumes were slightly better than average.
So we're and we're going to give those an eight out of ten.
And then our personal score ended up averaging out to an eighty four point five.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for Mean Girls has come out to a B plus.
Hell yeah.
I am very happy with that.
I'm too, dude, frickin the end.
I love this new system for like the anticipation that you have, dude, like, I don't think he'll
touch upon it, but he changed our grading system and how we run things with how it's
laid out.
He he friendly.
He he like put so much effort into it.
And like, I'm so grateful for it because like it makes it so much more of an event now.
It already was an event, but now it's even more so because frickin like once he puts
everything in, like, you know, we do the drum roll, huge letters.
It now says final grade for Mean Girls B plus.
It's amazing.
I love it.
It's great.
Like, so for those of you that don't know, the way that we typically did this is we'd
fill out our scores.
It would calculate an average and then spit out the letter grade for us.
But while we were reading out what the percentages was, like what our stuff was averaging out
to, like we already knew what the grade was.
So like we would sit and see what the grade was.
And then I'd read it off and just be like, oh, we got this.
And I would know what it was.
Rose wouldn't typically like unless he was looking on that page.
But there was no like real surprise about it.
So I changed some stuff around and created some scripts and whatnot.
So now there's a button that we push to reveal the grade.
And so, yeah, so like like Rose said, it's a little bit more of an event.
And I do love the anticipation because I clicked it and I got I got giddy.
I mean, seriously, I love it.
Yeah.
So that's what he's what he's talking about.
But yeah, B plus, I think that's well earned.
Absolutely.
That is perfect.
That makes me very happy.
That is so fetch.
Absolutely.
All right.
Now, to find out where it's ranking.
So it is sitting at an eighty eight point six three or actually.
Not bad at all.
OK, so actually it's an eighty eight point six two.
Sorry.
Well, OK, do.
OK, question for you.
Yeah.
I so we can change like the decimal point.
Do we want to do it like with three decimal points or just two?
Because if we do two, it's going to average out to like the nearest one hundredth, where
if we do it with the other, it's going to do the nearest thousandth.
And there's like a little bit of a difference between some of these.
I know.
What are your thoughts?
That I don't know.
I will just do we'll just do the three because that's the system I've I've been reading off
of.
OK.
All right.
So Mean Girls 2024 sitting at an eighty eight point six two, which puts it on the exact
same level.
It's actually a four way tie.
Damn.
Yeah.
So it is it is tied with Luca Top Gun Maverick and Halloween 2018.
That's awesome.
Right.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So that's where it's sitting currently sitting at a B plus.
So going what it is, you want to go above or below first?
Let's hear above above.
All right.
So it is currently sitting above Bros.
All right.
I am OK with that.
It is above How to Train Your Dragon 2.
All right.
It's above Glass Onion.
All right.
The Invisible Man.
Wow.
And the prom.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Yeah.
Go in the opposite direction.
It is sitting below Five Nights at Freddy's.
All right.
It is below Saw X. That's fair.
Yeah.
It's below Matilda, the musical.
Oh, wow.
Damn.
It's below the Mitchells versus the Machines.
And then it is below Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
OK, wow.
And all of these movies in it or sitting at a B plus.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Dude, that's I.
OK.
I like its placement.
I really do.
Same here.
I think it has a really decent home.
I like that it's it's right next to a lot of other musicals like freaking Matilda, the
prom.
That's awesome.
Right in between those two.
That's awesome.
I love that.
Yeah.
It is point four percent away from Matilda, the musical and point five away from the prom.
Not bad.
So it's not even like a full percentage difference.
Wow.
That's awesome.
That's pretty crazy.
But yeah, it's sitting sweet.
Well, unless you got anything else you want to say about Mean Girls 2024.
Nope.
All right.
Well, then I think that's going to do it for this episode.
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So yeah, sure.
Wow.
No, excuse me for trying to boy stuff.
My friend, my best friend, my bro, my brother.
Excuse me.
Maybe I was a little kiss ass.
Geez, you're laying it on pretty thick.
Just a little.
But yeah, so next week, it is kind of up in the air what we're going to do.
We have two different directions that we can go.
So it will be a surprise for both sides.
So that's gonna be fun.
But anyway, you can listen, you can look forward to whatever happens next week.
But until then, this has been the Alvarez podcast.
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So long.
Deuces.