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You're three minutes or almost four minutes late.
Yeah.
What the heck, Sam?
Just kidding.
All right.
Getting into our weekly watches of the week.
Caleb, you want to start us out?
I would love to.
So I watch Paddington to this week completely.
Oh, I mean, kind of on a whim, kind of because I was I felt like I was guided to because
of this is a kind of a tie into the unbearable weight of massive talent.
Sam was driving.
Oh, OK.
All right.
That's a good excuse.
Yeah, that's a pretty good excuse.
Yeah.
So this was kind of in reference to the unbearable weight of massive talent in that movie.
Pedro Pascal talks about his favorite movie being Paddington 2 and Nicolas Cage kind of
like pokes fun at him for it.
And he's like, well, have you ever seen it?
And he's like, well, no.
And so they watch it.
And it it's just hilarious because afterward, Nicolas Cage is just like that is like a beautiful
piece of cinema and blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, man, like, let's like just for shits and giggles, like, let's see if
that was true or if that was just a gag.
It was not a gag.
It is a beautiful piece of cinema.
And dude, the frickin emotional turn because like at the end of the gag, like it's the
end of the movie and freaking Nicolas Cage is like in tears and just like, that's freaking
beautiful.
And I was like.
I was watching it.
I was laughing and and all that.
But there wasn't anything like truly like emotional about it.
And so I was just like, I wonder what's going to.
I if if this emotional turn will come or if they were just exaggerating for for the film
or whatever.
And yeah.
And so the ending is frickin emotional shit like a frickin gut punch is like the but it
was like getting hit by a freight train of emotion because it was just like it was nothing.
And I was like, I knew kind of what the ending was going to bring, like and I predicted it
from the beginning.
And I was just like, OK, so this is how it's going to end up.
It ended up exactly how I thought it was.
And then still just frickin shit.
Yeah.
Like Braille was frickin making fun of me for it and everything.
But it was it was a really good movie.
Really, really well done.
So is it a sequel that tops the first one?
That's a tough that is a tough call.
I don't know.
OK, because the first one's really good, too.
But the first one also kind of acts like an origin.
And you know how I feel about origins.
But I mean, the first one is really good, good as well.
Like I'd say they're on par with each other.
OK.
Nice.
Yeah.
So I'm going to be giving this one a five dollar Tuesday.
A very strong five dollar Tuesday, because this could this could very easily get bumped
up to a full price.
Yeah.
The next thing I watched, I rewatched Christopher Robin this week because I have a toddler and
my my movie options are very limited.
But this one held up really well.
This one was was super fun to watch again.
I don't keep my attention quite as good, but I don't know if that was because I was I was
I bet it was because I was distracted by my kid because for whatever reason, it wasn't
holding her attention.
And so she was out front and around and doing whatever.
And so that was distracting me.
But when she was sitting down and paying attention, so was I.
So I would I am attributing any distraction or any lack of attention I was giving it.
I attribute that to toddler rambunctiousness.
But it was super fun.
Loved every minute.
Like hearing Tigger sing his song was fantastic.
Yeah, I really, really like this movie.
It's on Disney Plus if anyone wants to check it out.
Actually watch a good live action adaptation of Winnie the Pooh because after we watched
Blood and Honey for that one episode that night, I went and watched this just to get
that out of my to get that bad taste of a movie out of my mouth.
That was a good call.
I wish I would have done that.
But that is also a movie that is so easily forgettable that that is fair.
Like the blood and honey didn't even like cross my mind while I was watching this one.
Good.
Dude, freaking speaking of that, I mean, I'm sure you've heard that there there's
already a sequel that's coming out this year.
Yep.
Did you hear so did you hear that the original Mickey Mouse is now public domain like it?
I did hear that.
And like freaking how fast they all they've already greenlit three pieces of cinema or
sorry, three pieces of media, two movies, one video game.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there's so there's a video game coming out this year, which I'm not going
to lie, the video game kind of sounds fun.
What is it?
So it's you go on this.
I think it's like you take a ferry to an island that's infested in infested with like
rodents and there's a huge and you're trying to get rid of get rid of them.
But you also have to deal with a mutated giant rodent.
And that turns out to be a steamboat Willie, the mutated Mickey Mouse.
Oh, gosh.
So is it only is it I thought it was Mickey Mouse as a character or is it only like steamboat
Willie?
I think it's just steamboat Willie.
It's just the original interpretation of Mickey Mouse.
OK, because like I've seen like so much stuff like lately about like what's oh, this is
now legal.
Oh, this is now legal.
But it's all revolved around steamboat Willie.
And I'm like, yeah, you're going with like more modern adaptations of Mickey.
No, sir.
But I mean, if it's only steamboat Willie, then yeah, that makes that tracks.
Yeah.
So that's like the video game.
These are just about a frickin killer Mickey Mouse just killing people.
I'm shocked.
Yeah.
I bet you they're going to be horrible.
Probably.
But the fact that like two of these projects were announced day one and they were already
well into production.
I'm just like, geez Louise, people like damn.
Dude, I watched there's so there's a channel that I really like watching.
They're the ones that do the visual effects artists react and like the stunt people react
videos and all that.
Yeah.
One of their their like their team members is a lawyer.
And so he would he did like a whole breakdown on why Disney isn't pushing to like extend
out the copyright for Mickey Mouse.
And it's frickin crazy.
If you could, I'm just curious if you could sum it up, why is why aren't they?
It's because Mickey Mouse isn't as big of a it's just because Disney's become so big.
It's become much bigger than Mickey Mouse.
It's like that's ultimately what it comes down to pre.
I think he said it was like pre 1990 the the characters that Disney was creating made up
a vast majority of the money that was coming in to Disney in terms of like merchandising
movies, like all of that.
It was their original character.
So that's like that's Mickey Donald goofy, all of them.
And so the reason that they kept paying to get their copyright extended is because anyone
who would have messed with that, like messed with the image of that character without like
legal ramifications would have like done some damage to Disney's brand because those characters
were such a big portion of their incoming money.
And so after 1990, after when Disney started acquiring these other brands, so Marvel, Star
Wars, like the amusement parks and all this other stuff, they started accumulating so
much additional wealth and different like funds that were coming in that weren't based
off of their characters that Mickey stopped being as valuable to them.
So that's what it's like ultimately come down to is Mickey and the money that he brings
and like so the money that they would have put forward to like basically lobby and extend
the copyright out again, it comes down to it's more it's not as valuable to their time
and efforts as it used to be.
Where where pre 1990 before all these Disney acquisitions, they were like they had to like
extend out these like the copyrights like I think it was like 20 years or 25, whatever
the span of time was from the beginning of like Mickey because they had like there was
so much value tied up in Mickey Mouse to their company and just that that image and the characters
and whatnot.
Huh?
Yeah so as Disney got bigger and started acquiring, yeah Mickey stopped being as valuable of an
asset to them.
Like he's still a valuable asset, like he's still worth like millions of dollars, but
that's freaking chump change compared to the billions of dollars other stuff is bringing
into Disney.
Fair enough.
So they're like, okay, well we could spend millions of dollars unnecessarily because
I mean did like at this point what people do to Mickey Mouse isn't going to affect Disney
whatsoever.
That's true.
But once upon a time when it was like, I mean when the internet wasn't around, like you
could do some real damage to Disney saying like, oh, this is like officially licensed
Mickey merchandise.
And so yeah, it's the damage that can be done to Disney is so minuscule now that they're
not putting forth the effort to lobby and get the copyright limits extended again.
Interesting.
Yeah, it's a cool video.
If you guys want to check it out, it's the Corridor Crew or the Corridor Channel.
And yeah, it's a great video.
Like it's a really well done video and it's all from like a legal perspective too.
That is awesome.
So yeah, it's freaking it's a great video.
I'll send it to you when we're done.
Yeah, I definitely want to check this out because like you think that I thought that
they would still love by you know, the studio started with a man and a mouse and I have
respect for Walt Disney if I would think that they'd want to protect Mickey Mouse at all
costs, but I guess not.
Yeah, ultimately it like they don't give a flying shit about Walt Disney and like that
image they care about the like Disney's turned into a bottom line like whatever is bringing
in the most money and Mickey is not bringing in the money or the percentage of income that
he used to because he used to be the majority like moneymaker of Disney.
Yeah, makes sense.
Like it was like the animation studios.
It was all this stuff tied around Mickey Mouse and his basically his contribution to Disney
has just become smaller and smaller and smaller.
Now it's to the point where they're just like, who cares?
That's insane.
Right?
Like super, like I said, super interesting video.
Yeah.
But if I remember, I'll tell I'll post the link to the video in the description.
Yeah.
Of this but crazy good video.
If you get a chance to watch the I mean the guy that does it like he's freaking amazing
with his his words so it keeps you engaged the entire time which I really really like
especially through all the Lego the Lego lean legal lingo.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's about the the shit that's gone down with Disney.
That's about what I expected to go down like as soon as Mickey turned into the public domain.
Holy shit.
I still can't believe that.
That is insane.
Yeah.
What else did I watch this week?
Getting back into the weekly watch.
Oh, I went and saw migration.
Great movie.
This is a bit of a spoiler for next week but I love this movie.
Unfortunately, it is one that I would give a stream at recommendation to because I feel
like that would be the ideal viewing for it.
Okay.
But I mean, I'll like I said, I'll save I'll save my my thoughts and everything for next
week's episode which is this is what we'll be breaking down but I very much enjoyed this
episode or this this movie.
Very nice.
Alright, so I rewatched a couple movies this week.
First being up cat in the hat.
Why?
Because I so I was scrolling through peak so I have this movie on Blu ray but been years
since I popped that in and I was going through peacock you know because peacocks like a I
feel it's a streaming service that I don't really pay that much attention to so I wanted
to see if there were any good movies on there and this was just recently added as far as
I I'm I think it was just recently added might have been there for a hot minute but I saw
that I'm like, okay, you know what?
I know it's bad but let's let's let's just see.
Let's just remember how bad it is and oh my god, it's still so bad.
The only you want to know the only positive I can say about this movie is that a buddy
of mine and me catch ourselves quoting this movie quite often at work.
This movie is so god damn quotable to me.
But that's about it.
The cat in the hat, the cat, the cat himself is not how he is in the books because he is
never this dirty.
There's way too many sexual innuendos with him.
The things are freaking nightmare fuel.
Literally the only thing that good that I can say about this movie is the set pieces
are cool like the sets actually look really cool like they definitely seem like they're
out of a Dr. Seuss book.
But are that really not that much good here?
I mean the two child actors that play Conrad and Sally, they're pretty good with what they're
given but everything else just sucks.
It's a horrible adaptation.
How do we go from the Grinch which Jim Carrey's The Grinch truly understands the story.
You truly understand why he hates Christmas.
If anything I feel it adds to the original book.
But this one is just a slap in the face.
And this is my favorite Dr. Seuss book growing up.
The cat in the hat will always be my favorite.
And so just imagine my dismay seeing my favorite Dr. Seuss character treated so badly as a
child.
It was so bad no one has wanted to touch that movie or that property.
Dude like seriously.
And dude I remember when so my elementary actually did a field trip for this movie to
go see this movie in theaters like they made an event out of it.
It was kind of cool.
Oh no.
Yeah.
So I'm very curious what the teachers thought when the freaking cat in the hat picks up
the picture of the mom and it's just like oh who is this and implies that he gets a you
know what.
And yeah.
Wow dude.
Could you imagine the conversation that that teacher probably had to have with the administration
dude like make a call like yo there's some messed up shit in this movie.
Have you seen any of like the behind the scenes stuff with this movie.
I have not.
So Dr. Seuss is a widow.
Was it was her name Audrey Geisel.
I think her was her name.
I think that was her name after she saw this movie.
She's like I knew that Mike Myers was going to turn the cat in the hat dirty.
And after after this movie she's like yep.
No no more live action adaptations of my husband's work.
Never again.
And like it was a good like I think almost 10 years before she decided to let them do
another adaptation with Horton.
Here's a who.
I was animated.
So good call on her part.
It's like.
Like that would be something it's like the the Seuss family needs to approve any and
all adaptations of the of this this work.
Like I did you ever see like the I think it came out in the 90s like the television movie
that they did for the cat in the hat.
I did not.
OK.
So so they kind of did like what they did with the Grinch.
They did a TV movie adaptation way better than this one.
Of course not surprisingly.
But it's still not.
It's still not perfect.
And I find funny is the things voices are so high in this one.
Like I and you know what that kind of makes sense in the animated special.
They are frickin like Lawrence Fishburne levels of low.
It doesn't make any sense.
There's like that's not how it that's not how I pictured thing one and thing two sounding.
Somehow that's so much funnier than them having like super high pitched voices.
It's funny.
Oh shit.
But yeah, no still to this day we don't have a like I'll take that adaptation way more
over this one even though I rewatch this one and as you see on occasion every couple of
years I will rewatch this movie because there's something wrong with me.
I hope one day we get a good adaptation of the cat in the hat one that actually understands
the book and just sticks to the damn source material.
I mean come on.
It's not that hard.
It isn't dude.
It is not.
And what's messed up too is that I mean we've gotten adaptations of Horton.
Here's who the Lorax we've gotten multiple iterations of the Grinch like there are so
many stories of Dr. Seuss that could have worked really well in the animated world.
Like I personally feel like a lot of his stories would make really good shorts.
Absolutely.
Like excuse me.
What's the one with like the the the creatures with like the star belly or whatever.
Oh is that Sneetches?
Yes.
Okay.
But I think that one has like a different name.
Yeah I forget.
Gosh I'm gonna look it up real quick.
Because recently didn't like Netflix do like a limited series for like Green Eggs and Ham.
Yes.
Okay.
And I don't know how that works as a freaking show.
I don't think Dr. Seuss like goes well with shows.
That's fair.
It's awesome.
I guess it's just called the Sneetches.
Oh it's just Sneetches?
Yeah.
Freaking some of the stuff that they've cooked up with when it comes to Dr. Seuss stuff like
I remember I think it was either in the early 90s or early 90s or 2000s when they came out
with the TV movie The Cat in the Hat versus The Grinch.
Like okay.
Like I get you want to take your like arguably your two most popular Dr. Seuss characters.
But like from what I remember like yeah they like argue and stuff but there's never like
freaking like them throwing punches at each other.
Yeah that's odd.
But yeah like I think the Sneetches would make a really good short.
Green Eggs and Ham would make a really good animated short.
Oh the Places You'll Go.
Like that would be a really good short.
Dude I would love to see that.
Yeah I mean that would be that one I'd say would be more of like an extended short like
as a solid 15 minutes maybe.
Yeah.
But I mean the big ones are like Cat in the Hat, The Grinch.
Like we've already had adaptations of The Grinch but Cat in the Hat needs an adaptation.
Yeah.
Well that actually understands the damn book.
Yeah I mean when you think Dr. Seuss it's my mind instantly goes to that damn cat.
Yeah.
No seriously that is the staple Dr. Seuss character.
Yeah like it's in terms of like iconic Dr. Seuss characters it's The Cat in the Hat,
in The Grinch and then like Horton, Lorax and it gets a little iffy from there.
But number one like I always think of the damn cat.
Yeah.
So they have.
No one can get it right.
Nope.
And the fact that when was the last time you watched this movie?
I'll be a hundred percent real.
I think I've only seen this movie one time.
Wow.
And that was maybe a month or two after it came on like out and then to blockbuster.
Wow it's been that long.
Wow.
It's been a long time since I've seen it and I remember hating that movie.
It's yeah dude.
I don't blame you.
It's a horrible adaptation.
But like at the end there is a you know like once you know the house is restored and everything
in the cat leaves you see him walking down the street with the things you know like doing
their thing, things doing their thing, doing flips and shit.
He's just like oh what do you say we go on vacation?
Let's go to Hawaii.
And it teases the sequel The Cat in the Hat comes back.
Thank God that didn't happen.
Oh man.
Dude I don't know who in their right mind thought that Mike Myers was the good the right
fit for this.
Yeah I don't know either but just oh my God just horrible casting.
Just for shits and giggles who is your ideal Cat in the Hat voice?
Because obviously we're not going to get a live action adaptation but who would be your
like ideal voice?
That's hard.
Can you think of any?
Do you have one?
I have an unconventional one.
Alright what are you thinking?
Tom Hiddleston.
I don't hate that.
That's not a bad choice.
Like I've always like kind of with all of Dr. Seuss's characters I've always kind of
pictured them with like an accent of some kind.
Dude the more I think of it the more I don't hate that I seem really like that casting.
So I would either give it to like if they're going for like because you know damn well
that that's what they're going to do.
They're going to go with like an A-lister.
So yeah I would give that to Tom Hiddleston and then if they were going for someone that
maybe not quite as well I mean I know he's he's well known now but I would also think
Alan Tudyk would do a good job.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah that'd be a great voice.
I just put it into my head and now I can't get it out.
Owen Wilson as the cat in the hat.
Oh damn.
Dude that wouldn't that wouldn't not work.
Oh shit.
Oh man.
Oh man dude.
You might have hit it right on the head.
Oh God.
Right illumination we got your next doctor project.
Start calling up on Wilson right now.
Damn.
Then who do you get for for.
Personally in my like ideal adaptation thing one and thing two wouldn't talk.
I agree.
Like yeah they they'd make noises.
Or would they make noises.
I'd say yes to noise like noises at least but I don't think they would talk.
I think that they would talk into like the cat in the hat's ear.
Well I like that.
But I don't think that they would like talk talk.
But if they did.
That is one where you'd I think you'd have to do something funny.
And I don't think I.
And I don't think the the high pitched voice is is going to be quite as funny.
I would personally go exactly what you said with like a Laurence Fishburne.
How about Laurence Fishburne is one Samuel Jackson as the other.
That would be hilarious.
There we go.
But Jackson has to be in thing one.
Like actually wait no it'd be funnier if he was thing two.
Just him bitching about why why does he have to be the second one.
Kind of like this way is horrible jokes but the whole joke with how thing two is just
like oh don't call me thing to call me thing a just going through all these then thing
one chime thing one chimes in with the he's thing one for a reason and people just need
to get used to it.
You know who would be a really funny duo.
Would be Laurence Fishburne and James Earl Jones.
Oh dude.
Yeah it's like you get one thing one is like a really deep voice and then thing two is
an even deeper voice.
Do this would be amazing.
Like straight up Mufasa level.
Do that be some funny shit.
That would be amazing.
I'll have to send you the clip of the thing one and thing two being introduced from the
special because it takes you you're just like oh shit.
OK wow.
Wasn't expecting that.
Oh man.
We have way too much fun with voice casting.
We would this would be so much fun.
But yeah so obviously the cat in the hat gets a don't bother.
Like it's like it's it's a movie that's like so bad.
It's like kind of somewhat watchable and enjoyable but it's still don't don't bother.
Don't put yourself through a horrible adaptation of arguably next to the Grinch the best Dr.
Seuss book.
This is one that I would only say would deserve a nothing better to do if you have some sort
of nostalgic tie to it.
Yeah if you're if you're going into this movie new.
Like kind of how I would.
How like I would be like I'd be going into this like not remembering anything about this
movie.
And just like basically going in blind.
And that's like anyone who's brand new to this movie absolutely don't bother.
Yeah very much so.
But next.
Oh sorry.
No you're good.
You're good.
Next up I rewatched the world's end which if you guys haven't seen any of the I guess
they call the Edgar Wright Simon Pegg Nick Frost trilogy.
I think it has a different name but I'm just going to say that because you have this you
have Shaun of the Dead and then hot fuzz.
This is my favorite out of the three.
I freaking love this movie and I hadn't seen it probably since like it came out.
So like when I was in high school and every watching it loved it all over again.
I love these group of guys you know a group of guys that you know they were best friends
in high school of course you know it happens to some friend groups.
You guys get separated after high school and you know you kind of don't really talk to
each other a lot.
Thankfully that didn't happen to me and Caleb.
But you know someone decides oh hey let's get the band back together and then you know
shit hits the fan chaos ensues.
And like they turn this into like an alien invasion movie and it's really fun.
But like the whole pub crawl thing is super hilarious.
All five of these guys are so so funny and yeah just and I love British humor.
I think it's freaking hilarious.
Like there are some jokes I'm just like okay yeah I definitely couldn't say that in the
States but I'll laugh at it a little bit.
But yeah I know just this is a solid comedy with an amazing cast and like honestly I hate
that I waited so long to rewatch it because yeah it's so freaking good.
So freaking good.
I can't remember have you seen this one Caleb?
I have seen this one.
So I actually rewatched it I want to say a few months ago.
Hell yeah.
And I remember watching this one with you and I loved it both times.
I thought it was freaking great.
And even like yeah even the rewatch I was like this movie is really good.
But I have not seen Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz.
So those are definitely on my watch list especially if it's the same like team.
Like Shaun of the Dead is really good.
I don't think Hot Fuzz I don't know I didn't find Hot Fuzz that funny.
Maybe I really should just give it a rewatch.
But with that we would definitely give this a $5 Tuesday recommendation.
So yeah if you guys haven't seen this please check it out it's a great comedy.
It's a great buddy comedy.
And then last that I watched this week was Masterminds.
Comedy is based on true events like you know that's an interesting idea and you know like
if it's like I get like you want to tell the source you want to take the source material
seriously because you know it did actually happen.
But you also want it to be funny.
And I don't know with this one I feel it like it tries to make it too funny and for the
most time it fails for me.
It's just way too many way too many jokes.
I bet it's supposed to be a comedy but just too many jokes don't land for me.
So yeah I think it's just all right.
So if you're kind of looking for like a like a like a not great comedy but with a pretty
decent cast like this cast is really trying to make this work.
I'd at least maybe give it a watch.
Definitely not worth seeing in the theaters and I'm glad I did not see it in the theaters.
I'm pretty sure I did.
Oh I'm sorry.
I liked it like I thought it was funny and like but yeah it's definitely not one that
was 100 percent worth admission.
Yeah but I mean it was all right.
I think I think my my my only like favorite part is the awkward pictures that Zach Galif
and Ackerson yeah.
Kate McKinnon did that is my favorite part.
Really makes me want to go take awkward family photos.
But everything else is like super forgettable.
Like I forgot freaking Jason Sudeikis is in this.
Yeah he's he's a very I've never seen him play this kind of role like it's still like
you know like the quirky funny Jason Sudeikis but like it's it's definitely a different
version of him and he's definitely one of the more enjoyable parts of it.
Zach Galifianakis I feel he is really trying in this movie to make it work.
And he's definitely like to me like the best part of the movie.
Easily.
But yeah I mean he's he's working with the with a broken deck there.
Yeah but yeah it's all right.
We're going to give it a nothing better to do recommendation just if you're like really
looking for a comedy that's like you'll get a few chuckles out of maybe check it out but
like definitely don't go running to your nearest Voodoo account to rent or buy this.
Is that what you watch it on you watch on Voodoo.
No actually I've where did I find it.
So I had actually gotten a copy of it like in the five dollar bin years ago but I'd never
opened it.
So I was scrolling through my I was looking through my movies and I noticed that and was
like wait really I've never watched that before.
So I popped it in and yeah I'm glad I only paid five dollars for it.
Photos were awesome.
Yeah that that was easily the best scene.
Yes.
Yeah I'll say that.
And when he shoots when he freaking shoots down his ass crack.
That was that was one of my that that was funny.
Yeah I mean yeah unfortunately it's not anything to write home about it's.
Yeah that's the perfect way to sum it up.
It's I it's I.
Anything else on weekly watch.
No I got nothing.
All right.
Oh wow sorry.
I was like wait why isn't Caleb talking.
The Jonathan's because you're in charge of this episode.
Well moving on from weekly watches Caleb what do you say we get into our headliner of the
evening.
I say let's do it.
Oh yeah.
All right.
So with this headliner for this week we'll be breaking down Wonka which.
Oh God.
Just this movie.
That's how we're going to start this out of this movie.
Such a jam.
But we unfortunately we did not post a question of the week but that's OK.
I've had way too much shit going on this week.
Sorry and I I'm sorry I should have offered to post it.
Apologies.
Yeah you're fine.
But I'm curious off the top of your head can you think of the Wonka candy that you would
want to try.
OK this is a frickin throwback to the OG.
I wanted so badly to try the the flavored wallpaper.
Oh OK.
I'd never heard someone say that when it comes to Wonka stuff.
Dude nice answer.
I like that.
Yeah that was that's always been one that's just like anytime I've seen that scene I'm
just like gosh that looks freaking cool.
Like I I would love that.
So the the tasting paper.
Solid.
And I guess it may probably the fizzy lifting drink too.
Yes.
Dude freaking give me freaking Grandpa Joe like giving Willy Wonka shit was just like
what is wrong with you.
He's like dude you stole.
Like what the hell is wrong with you.
And you're giving Willy Wonka shit.
It's straight up.
I can't.
I think it was.
I think it's in the original Willy Wonka.
But like when one of the kids breaks open I think it looks like a jellied pumpkin and
they break it open.
The stuff that came out of that I always wanted to try that looked really good.
Like the freaking jelly looking shit.
Yeah.
Yeah both chocolate rooms are just both candy rooms in both Willy Wonka and Charlie.
All of the shit looked good.
Like you definitely want to try it all.
Oh yeah.
Definitely dude.
I really wanted to try that chocolate from the chocolate river in Charlie on the Chocolate
Factory.
That shit looked like the creamiest chocolate that you could ever have.
Yeah no joke there.
I'm trying to think if there's like anything else.
Like I was never I was never one to be like oh I'd love to try one of those never are
everlasting gobstoppers.
Same I was just kind of like yeah okay.
Like they look I don't know.
I think I don't know it just seemed like it looked rubbery.
Yeah I think the gum that would like turn into a full course meal that actually sounded
really cool.
That was interesting.
Yeah for sure.
But I was also not I'm still not a very big gum person.
So that was never super intriguing to me.
And then yeah.
I think for me it was always the wallpaper.
That's not dude that's fair.
So what was yours.
I was like the jelly stuff that came out.
I forget what the hell.
It's been a while since it's been a good while since I've seen the original Willy Wonka.
I really need to go back and revisit that.
Can we agree that we both definitely wanted to try Mrs. Bucket's cabbage soup.
No nothing goes better with cabbage than cabbage.
Like come on.
Dude there's nothing I dislike less than cabbage.
Really yeah.
So you will not eat corned beef and cabbage on St. Patrick's Day.
I do not like corned beef and cabbage.
Okay.
That is my least favorite thing to eat.
Wow.
Okay.
Like so much so that is that has almost turned me off to most like Irish foods.
Okay.
But do you have a food that like a food like type or just like a food from a certain culture
that you just start drawn more towards whether it be like Mexican food Italian or whatever.
I don't know probably I guess Italian just because there's so much with there's so many
entrees with almost the exact same sauce that you can't really go wrong and they all taste
so freaking good.
So I guess I would say Italian.
Yeah I am not like super drawn to Italian because I don't care for the pasta.
Okay.
And maybe it's just because there was like a really long span of time where we were eating
like nothing but pasta.
And so anytime we eat pasta now I'm just like I'm good.
That's funny because like pasta is like top three favorite dishes for me.
That's funny.
Yeah but I find myself drawn to Japanese food.
Okay.
Like that just that style like I will eat like ramen over like spaghetti pasta any day
of the week.
Okay.
And I don't know what it like I could I could eat.
I feel like I feel like I could eat just a stupid amount of ramen.
I mean dude top ramen is some good shit.
I don't care what anyone says.
People are just over it's for college students.
It's for if you're poor who gives a shit.
It's some good stuff.
It's like okay obviously someone hasn't checked my bank account.
I am poor.
Same.
And like you know I don't care about the sodium don't care about that kind of shit.
If it tastes good and it fills me up who cares.
Yeah.
My sister-in-law she is she's a punk for doing this to me.
We went to her or we went and hung out with her in California one time.
It was like I want to say it was right before Iris was born.
But we went to California to go visit and she took us to this ramen joint that was just
the shit.
It was so good.
And I was like gosh damn it this this might have ruined top ramen for me.
And sure shit as soon as I come home because I didn't do anything like super crazy with
my ramen like I it was just the normal like the packets.
And then I would put in like a little garlic powder and a little onion powder and that
was it.
Dude I've never even done that.
That sounds amazing.
It's pretty freaking good.
Like I don't like you just you just sprinkle like a little bit on top.
Okay I'm going to have to try that.
Like I what I would do is like when I would sprinkle it I just do like a lap around the
the pot.
Okay.
With it.
So I mean obviously getting like a good amount but I just do like a quick one like do that
with both of them and then I just I put it in a little soy sauce too.
And so that was that was the maximum amount of stuff that I would do to my ramen like
now like after that I always put in an egg.
Oh okay.
So what I'll do is I'll separate the the egg whites and the yolk.
I'll put the the raw yolk in whatever bowl I'm going to use and I'll keep the the egg
whites out until I'm ready to until I'm like maybe like 10 minutes away from like being
done like cooking my ramen.
So I'll dump the the egg whites in wait till those are all cooked up and then while it's
while the the ramen's like super hot I'll pour it right on top of the the yolk and it'll
cook the yolks like perfection and they're still running like they're freaking fantastic.
But yeah I go freaking nuts with it now and I don't know if she meant it as a joke or
what but she sent me like the the cup of noodles and it was like their their hot and spicy
chicken.
Dude that stuff is the bomb.
It's freaking good.
I'm like gosh damn it.
Yeah like she's she is now like the freaking noodle queen.
Oh that's awesome.
Like she has not led me astray when it comes to ramen.
That is awesome.
I love that.
Yeah I'd like she sent that to me that was like my Christmas gift and I freaking love
it.
Oh that's so great.
Like I and I I don't like cup of noodles either.
So I just kind of was like oh that's funny.
Ha ha ha.
And kind of set it aside and I wasn't planning on eating it but it was like really late and
I wanted something quick so I was just like screw it.
Why not.
Like I got these these noodles made the cup of noodle and everything and tasted it.
I'm like god damn it.
This is actually really freaking good.
Like it's the worst but it's like it's like that level of spicy where like while you're
eating it the spice doesn't like kick in until after you're done.
And so it's like and it's so good.
But yeah I was so I was so pissed.
I'm just like gosh.
Oh man.
Yeah.
So now I'm wanting to try making like quick ramen like the mason jar cup of noodles for
work and shit.
OK.
So I'm like yeah I was pissed at her.
Dude you're going to become a ramen connoisseur before you know it.
Yeah.
But I mean I'm attracted to that kind of stuff.
I think it's the egg noodle versus like the flour noodle.
Yeah.
I think that's the big difference.
The flour is just I think it's just too heavy for me where the egg noodle is.
I mean I don't even know if there's technically a difference between like a ramen noodle and
like a pasta noodle.
Yeah you got me.
But here I'm going to look real quick.
Ramen noodle versus pasta noodle.
They're not entirely different.
Both are made with wheat flour and water.
However ramen noodles include one extra ingredient called Kansui which gives the noodles their
unique flavor and color.
OK.
So whatever the Kansui is that's what that's the magic ingredient.
Oh that's funny.
Anyway now I'm done talking about noodles now.
Oh my.
All right.
I don't even remember how we got on that.
Yeah I don't either.
You got me man.
You got me.
Oh man isn't that the shit.
Anyway getting into our headliner.
Caleb you want to let people know how we break down movies on this podcast.
I would love to.
If you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies up into eight different
categories that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score our story writing acting character development effects
music costumes and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us a letter
grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
And yeah it also gives us a percentage so we can see an official ranking but that's
not quite as important as the letter grade itself.
So if you have not seen Wonka this might be a hard one to spoil but we are going to be
spoiling it.
Yes.
So we will be posting that spoiler now.
So yeah if you listen beyond this point and anything about Wonka is spoiled for you that's
on you.
So with that Rose will be reading off the synopsis for the entire film in our favorite
segment that we like to call reading with Rose.
All right.
Willy Wonka an aspiring magician inventor and chocolatier arrives in Europe to establish
his chocolate shop at the gallery's gourmet burning through his meager savings he is coerced
to stay at Mrs. Scrubbett's boarding house by her henchman bleacher and despite orphan
noodles warning about the fine print signs a contract because he is illiterate.
To pay them off Wonka introduces hover chocks chocolate that makes people fly facing mockery
from three rival chocolatiers who called the chief of police to confiscate his earnings
for selling without a chocolate store unable to pay the exorbitant fees imposed on him
by the contract.
Wonka is captured and starts to work in a lingerie for Mrs. Scrubbett alongside five
other captives including noodle learning including noodle sorry learning of a chocolate cartel
consisting of the rival chocolatiers who exploit the chief's weakness weakness for chocolate
to force Wonka to leave town.
Wonka makes his escape with the help of noodle while he promises her a lifetime supply of
chocolates.
She promises to teach him how to read Wonka tells noodle that his affinity for chocolate
stems from his late mother and mentions the theft of his chocolates by an and wow an enigmatic
I think that's the word enigmatic orange man who has been stealing them for years to produce
his signature chocolate Wonka and noodle travel to the local zoo milking Abigail the giraffe
together with other laundry laundry workers they embark on a chocolate selling crusade
to alleviate their debts while using tunnels underneath the city to evade Scrubbett and
the chief and the chief unmasking Oompa Loompa named Lofty as the thief Wonka discovers that
the Oompa Loompa seeks retribution for the cocoa beans Wonka took from Loompa land years
ago under Lofty's watch before he escapes by duping Wonka.
Using the funds raised from selling chocolates the captives open Wonka's dream chocolate
store the chief and the chocolate cartel now unable to arrest him since he has a legitimate
shop exposed him to scrub and infusing his chocolates with Yeti Sweat with Yeti Sweat
script.
Sorry.
Unable to arrest him since he has a legitimate shop expose him to scrub it infusing his chocolates
with Yeti Sweat scrub it incites chaos among the customers leading to the destruction of
Wonka store. Wonka agrees to the cartels offer to leave town by ship to pay off everyone's debts.
All the workers are released from the lingerie except noodle cartel leader Slugworth pays scrub
it to keep her indefinitely. Wonka deduces that noodle is Slugworth's niece before he and Lofty
are forced to jump off the boat that has been rigged to explode. After rescuing noodle with the
help of the group, they devise a strategy to obtain the cartels incriminating account book.
Taking advantage of Abigail's distraction, Wonka and Noodle infiltrate the cartels base. They are
confronted by the cartel who reveal that Noodle, who was reported dead to her mother Dorothy,
was left by Slugworth to scrub it in order to eliminate her claim to the family fortune.
The cartel attempts to drown Wonka and Noodle in chocolate, but Wonka enables Lofty to rescue
them and unveils the cartels misdeeds to the authorities and the public. They release the
cartels chocolate reserve through a fountain laced with Wonka's unique ingredients, ruining
the cartels enterprise. The cartel meets their downfall and the police arrest the chief.
The crowd revels in tasting Wonka's chocolate fountain and Wonka unwraps the last chocolate
bar his mother had given him. Sorry. Wow. The crowd revels in tasting Wonka's chocolate fountain
and Wonka unwraps the last chocolate bar his mother had given him, discovering a golden paper
with a message that says, what matters is who you share the chocolate with. He aids Noodle in
reuniting with Dorothy, settles his debt with Lofty, and acquires an abandoned castle to commence
building his own factory with Lofty as his tasting chef. In an epilogue, the captives return to their
old lives and scrub it in bleacher are arrested after their attempt to eliminate evidence of
sabotaging Wonka's shop backfires. All right. Oh, man, dude. This was so good. Oh, my God.
Yeah, I definitely struggle with that one, Sam. I can understand why you loved that one.
I'm some big words. But yeah, anyway, like, I know that no one was, you know, like, freaking
clawing or scratching for a Wonka origin story. No one was. But what they were able to cook up here,
like, it works so well. Just, oh, my God, from the like, we'll get with this, with the music,
but like, like the first song that starts when the movie starts with a hat full of dreams,
and the way that it introduces us to Willy Wonka and his, his dreams, his ambitions.
I appreciate that, Sam. Thank you. I appreciate you defending me.
Love you, Stacey, for listening. Just Yeah, just seeing Wonka's dreams, ambitions,
and throughout just seeing what he has to go through to, like, actually get to where he wants
his chocolate to be having his own shop, you know, being able to create what he literally has cooked
up in his mind. And just the characters that follow along the way noodle, all the other people that
work at the lawn, the laundrette, especially the chocolate cartel, like, oh, my God, just, I can't
say good enough good about this story. It works so goddamn well. Dude, it absolutely did. Like, it's
set up, it's a story and it's B story, like, so well, and followed them to a natural conclusion
that didn't feel forced on either end. Nope. Like, that was that was the biggest pro here. Yeah.
Like, I wasn't sure how I knew, like, the older, like, the older, like, the older, like, the older
how I knew, like, the ultimate goal was to get to the point of him owning a factory. Yeah. Like,
I knew that was more than likely going to be the end goal where with Willy Wonka and the chocolate
factory, we get him. Oh, gosh, damn it. What's the word we get him like retiring. And then in this
one, like, we're just getting to the point where he's beginning. Yeah. And that, like, I think
that's where all of us kind of assumed we'd ultimately end up. Yeah. And, like that, that
scene alone, like, frickin when he like, just the way that they did that, like, it's all just building
out as he's singing pure imagination. I was smiling the whole time. Like, this is just amazing.
Dude, when he first started singing that chills, dude, right. As like, I knew the song was coming
because like you hear the the tune. Yeah. Beginning. So I'm like, okay, so we are going to be getting
pure imagination. Yeah. In this song or in this movie at some point and the frickin build up, dude.
Like, you knew damn well it was coming. I was just like, ah, yes, yes, yeah. And then as soon as he
started singing, I was like, I just love how it like finishes up two stories in the song. Like,
you get the tie up with Noodle and, you know, her discovering her mom at the and finding her mom at
the beginning. And then the rest of the song is Willy Wonka telling Lofty the Oompa Loompa about
what he wants to create with his chocolate factory and, you know, him trying to convince him to come
along. And, you know, he he he he is convinced. Just yeah, it's so frickin good. Like, oh my god.
Oh my god. Dude, it was really, really well executed. Like that's I think that's the biggest
pro here. It was just it was excellently executed. And like honestly, the the fact that because Paul
King is his name, right? Who directed this? I want to say yes. You know, if you look at his track
record, frickin first two Paddington's like. You had a feeling that he could do something like this,
but the fact that he could make it as magical as I feel the Gene Wilder version is and just
you truly feel like you're in a world of pure imagination with this movie. And
and I'm glad that I decided to go see this in XD because, oh man, I'm so jealous. It was so worth
it, dude. It was so worth it. And the fact that like it was it was I think like it was only it was
an old couple in front of me and then like a couple behind me that were the only ones in the
theater and no one talked. No one had their cell phones. I was like one of the best movie
theater experiences I've ever had. I love that you have to say that, oh, basically no one was in here
and it was great. So someone pointed out and they've got a point here when you go to see a movie
and like a kind of like a higher format like, you know, XD, IMAX, you're usually going with people
that actually know like are they want to go they want to they're they want to pay the extra money.
They you know, they actually know theater etiquette. They're not going to talk during the movie,
be on their phone for half the time, you know, shit like that. These people are, you know,
they're they're paying the extra money to actually sit down and watch the thing that they pay the
money for. And yeah, they're not wrong. Because like I said, no one had their phones at home.
No one talked. It was it was freaking great. But yeah, freaking seeing the visuals of Wonka on that
big of a screen, especially the ending like the last 20 minutes, or I guess like the last 10 minutes
when the factory is being built around him, like that alone is worth the extra money, in my opinion,
because like I said, I could not like wipe the smile off my face that I was having when he was
singing Pure Imagination to, to lofty, right? That's his name. Yeah, yeah. Just, ah, man.
God, I love this movie. I love this movie. It is it's so good.
Man, like I said, it's just the structure of it, that they were able to build, like I think that
they could have easily gone either route of like diluting the main plot line or like with the the
whole laundromat thing. And they could have like really heavily diluted. Like they could have just
thrown that like the laundromat situation and like that's what I was kind of afraid that they were
going to do when he was talking about like his escape plan, more or less on like what that whole
situation was going to be. And so I thought like, oh, now this is just a something that's not going
to come up ever again, like, or maybe like the whole, like the debt thing, like that's going to
come to play later. But I wasn't expecting it to be as as such a big part as it was, or as it turned
up being. Yeah, I know. And I definitely didn't expect the rest of the laundrette prisoners
or whatever you want to call them to have such a big part in Wonka's story of like him actually
being able to open his first shop. That was yeah, that was really cool. That was way cool. And just
like tied in those two stories damn near flawlessly. And honestly, I shouldn't be surprised. I mean,
you said it was Paul King that directed this. Yeah. If he did the first two Paddingtons, those
those movies are gems. Yeah, I still haven't seen the second one. But yeah, the first one is so
freaking good. Yeah. Watch the second one for sure. I think I'm going to watch it this week. I'm
I'm definitely going to do it because yeah, this this guy knows how to direct like, really, really
well. Yeah, like he is. I don't know if it's just because he's adapting Roald Dahl situate or movies
or like storylines. I think Paddington's a Roald Dahl, right? I don't think it is. I could be wrong,
though. It is, though, I want him to do more Roald Dahl stuff. It does look like it. Oh, shit.
Oh, no, no. I lied. It's someone Michelle Bond. Oh, OK. OK, so yeah.
How was I getting that? Yeah, it's he's able to I would love to see him do an adaptation of Willy
Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Dude, same here. Like now that we've gotten this, like I'm like,
dude, do a full frickin trilogy. I like like making a trilogy like do the Willy Wonka and then do what
happens with Charlie after he takes over. Like I'd be very just because I feel it's a hard one to do.
I would very interested to see his take on Charlie and the great was Charlie and the Great Glass
Elevator. I think that was the sequel to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I do. I'm not familiar
with that story. It's weird. It's very, very weird. But if anyone could could pull it off,
I think Paul King could. Fair. Yeah, I would love to see him do a take on the classic Willy Wonka
story. Yes, absolutely. Like I wouldn't even be mad if they did same like. Timothy Chalamet for
that as well. Dude, I wouldn't either because I mean, I'm going to save my opinion with him for
acting. Well, we loved him. I'm curious. Did you and did you take Iris to this with you? I was going
to, but so Brielle wanted to take Iris to go to a craft store today and just go run a couple other
errands and like go hit up McDonald's and whatever. And so I offered I offered to take her and she's
like, well, I know it's like a family friendly movie, but it's not like really a kid. Like,
like it's not aimed towards little little kids. And I was like, I mean, it's a musical, though. And
I regret not taking her. Yeah, that would have been really I think she would have loved it.
Like she I think she would have definitely been up in her seat dancing around.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like she would have been like she would have gone crazy for this movie,
especially that I would have loved to see her little her dancing to the Oompa Loompa song.
Oh, so adorable. There's no way that she wouldn't have. Yeah, that'd be so adorable.
But yeah, I mean, the story was just so well put together.
I have like super close to no complaints over the story.
Same here.
Where are you sitting?
I'm I am really freaking high.
Personally,
I think I'm going to be at 96.
I think I'm going the opposite end of the 90s.
Actually, I might be a little lower. I think I'm going 93.
OK. I'm still really high. Yeah. And I'm trying to think of like any like
I'm trying to think of like any like story issues I had, but.
Like even like the chocolate cartel, I know.
And I can't just because it's been a while since I've seen Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
I know of Slugworth, you know, that's definitely a staple of Willy Wonka.
But were the two other two in?
I don't remember them.
They got quite the name Fiddle Fiddle something and I forget the other one.
Yeah. Wait, Slugworth. Who was that? The the frickin dude that like was hitting up the kids.
Hit.
Like who? Oh, yeah.
In the in the OG.
Slugworth is the one that he remember it's I think after Charlie finds his golden ticket and he's running through the tunnel and slug very creepily.
Slugworth just comes out of the shadows and is tells Charlie like, oh, hey, when you go to the factory,
make sure to find any secret recipes you can find of Willy Wonka's and pocket them for me.
And if you give them to me, I will make your family rich beyond their wildest dreams.
I will make it worth your while if you steal from Wonka for me.
OK, so he was like the Nazi looking dude. Yep.
Yeah, that's how I remember him.
No, dude. Seriously.
And I do. You know, I've loved every iteration of him.
He was fantastic in this one. He was great in Willy Wonka and even in Charlie, even though he doesn't really get to.
I feel like he has the least amount to do in Charlie because because like literally there's just one part where a guy comes out of the factory that was a worker and hands him an envelope of a certain recipe.
And then you see him. I think he either does like the everlasting bubble gum or like the ice cream that will never melt does one of those.
But now think about with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I'm wondering if the other two that do because there was the ice cream that would never melt the the gum that would never lose its flavor.
I forget the other one. I'm wondering if the other two were actually the two other chocolate cartel members. If those were the two could have been.
I need to watch Charlie and Chocolate Factory again because now I'm very curious.
It wasn't wasn't Slugsworth or at least in the OG the Gene Wilder one.
Wasn't he like someone that worked with Willy Wonka?
Gosh, I need to watch. I can't remember. Yeah, I do, too.
I can't remember. Yeah, don't don't be surprised if Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is on my weekly watch next week.
You do like one does Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. The other one does Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
But yeah. All right. Moving on over to writing.
Just as good. This one, I would actually say a little lower.
Not really. Not much. All right.
Any writing issues that I had were 100 percent due to Keegan Michael Key's character.
Okay, you know what? I okay. Yeah, you know what? I can agree with that.
He felt very unnecessary. Yeah.
The fact that he doesn't even actually have a name. He's just chief of police. Yeah, they don't give him a last name.
Nothing like, okay.
Which shows how little care they. Yeah, which not not like he's great in it.
He definitely does a great job with what he's given. But yeah, I definitely agree with you.
He the writing for him definitely is very unnecessary.
I'm sure that they could have found a different way for the chocolate cartel to take out Willy Wonka.
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't need the middle man here.
Nope, not even a little bit like.
I don't know. I think maybe like you could have gotten Bleacher to kind of be the.
Like that guy. I agree, because, you know, if it's discovered that, you know, they were working with Mrs.
Scrubbitt for quite a while, like ever since, you know, like the thing that happened with Noodle.
So, yeah, you think that they'd come back into business with each other to when they find out about Willy Wonka.
Yeah, I mean, you would think, but I don't know.
Personally, I feel like he could have been written out very easily.
No, I got to agree with you.
Yeah, but I mean, but that doesn't affect my writing score too bad.
It does knock it down a few points as I mean, even though I felt he was unnecessary, he wasn't unnecessary to the film.
He still he still played an important role.
It's just he could have been rewritten to be not part of the film.
Yeah. I do have a question for you with the writing when it comes because, you know, when it comes to Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka needs his Oompa Loompa.
Like that's how it always has been.
But at all, do you wish that the Oompa Loompa was written in like a different way?
Do you feel that like he felt unnecessary? You wanted more from the Oompa Loompas?
It made sense why he was in it.
OK, and I do agree.
Like you kind of need to include his his origins with the Oompa Loompas.
And I think this I like this version a lot better than like how they handled them in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
OK, so the Johnny Depp one?
Yes.
OK.
I like this one where it's like, oh, they're just these people that are obsessed with chocolate.
And so that's why they come to basically live in Willy Wonka's factory.
And so I really like that aspect of it.
Wasn't technically in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, isn't it how they are, too?
Like they're obsessed with the cocoa bean.
So, yes, it's like he wanted to pay them in cocoa beans where this is like, oh, no, he just wants to.
Pay them being like chocolate tasters, I don't know, kind of the same thing.
And it's not I mean, I thought I thought it was better handled here.
No, sir. No, I get that.
But yeah, I think this is something I went in wanting the Oompa Loompa or Lofty to be in this a lot more than he was.
So I went into it, the movie, thinking that that I wanted the Oompa Loompas in this a significant amount.
How much he was in it was just right for me.
I agree.
And it's because they did such a good job at building up the character of Noodle.
Yes, seriously, though, like what's in I get why, because you want to sell that.
Oh, hey, this is, you know, the origin movie of Willy Wonka and the Oompa Loompas.
So it felt like like 70 to 80 percent of the screen time of Lofty is in the trailers.
Like there's barely anything new with him.
But Noodle was barely shown at all in the trailers and the story that you get with her and the connection that you get between her and Willy Wonka.
It's like a brother sister situation.
And I loved it so much.
Dude, agreed.
Like, I don't think it could have been better put together.
Agreed.
Like the lofty as the Oompa Loompa was in it enough.
And he was he was hilarious.
Oh, yeah.
He was on screen and like, yeah, he grant killed it, but he grant kills and everything he does.
So I wouldn't say that.
I think so.
He went through his like heartthrob stage where he was doing a lot of dramatic romance movies.
And he was always like the very dry character.
Like if it was a joke, he wasn't the one making it.
And so I think him take on a role like this.
And I'm like, dude, I've been seeing him in a bunch of shit lately.
They don't Braille this.
I was just like, it's weird seeing like Hugh Grant because I used to hate him.
Really?
Yeah, like any like I avoided most movies that included Hugh Grant.
But now I freaking love him because of how funny he is as an actor.
Like I'm just going through real quick some of his movies.
Yeah.
I mean, Paddington, Paddington, too, was good wonka Dungeons and Dragons.
Like these were all like solid movies.
And then it's just like some of his other ones were not good.
Like the Bridget Jones diaries.
Notting Hill, Love Actually.
Did you not like Love Actually?
I liked Love Actually.
I didn't like him in Love Actually.
Yeah.
You know, fair enough.
Yeah.
Like some of his other stuff, like his younger stuff where it was.
I don't know.
Maybe I just haven't been seeing the right stuff of his.
But I like him better when he's being goofy.
Yeah, I can agree with that because like the two.
Wow.
The two roles that I think these were these only two roles, at least I know from this year were his role in Dungeons and Dragons.
Then here both I enjoyed quite a bit.
Oh, yeah.
I loved his performance in Dungeons and Dragons.
But yeah, I am just because I feel like the chief of police could have been rewritten.
Honestly, I think you could have taken it out and just had the cartel paying off the police.
Like, I don't think you needed like a full blown freaking character.
And I think you could have done some funny shit with that.
Like, maybe the entire police force just ended up getting fat.
Yeah, that would have been kind of funny.
Yeah, I would have enjoyed that.
Just one.
But I don't know.
I think I think he could have been dealt with differently.
So that's dropping me from a 93 to a 90.
All right.
Yeah, I definitely agree.
It does drop me a few points.
So I think I'll drop the.
I think I'll match your story score.
So I'll go 93.
All right.
Next up, we got acting, which, oh, boy.
So many great performances here, dude.
So you want to go through them?
I would love to.
So we got first the man himself, Mr.
Timothy Chalamet, who played Willy Wonka.
We have I hope I say this right.
Cow.
That's how I pronounce it.
So Cowlain who played noodle.
Keegan Michael Key, who played the chief of police.
Like we said, he didn't even have a name.
That's what he's credited as.
If you can't play lofty slash the Oompa Loompa or AKA the Oompa Loompa.
Patterson Joseph Joseph played Slugworth.
Matt Lucas, who played prod nose.
Matthew Banton.
I'd say Bainton Bainton, who played fickle grouper.
Olivia Coleman, who played Mrs. Scrubbett and Tom Davis, who played bleacher.
So yeah.
Oops, sorry.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, dude.
This cast was freaking bitching, dude.
Oh, my God.
Just amazing.
I will say this. I had close to zero hopes that Timothy Chalamet was going to be any good.
Really?
Yeah.
Like it's because like everything else I've seen him in.
Like I mean, I've seen him in Dune.
I've seen him in Don't Look Up and a couple other things, too.
Oh, Little Women.
Yeah.
So like those movies, he didn't have very much personality.
He was always like very bland and dry.
And the stuff that I've seen him in in terms of like SNL, I'm like, it seems like he's trying a little too hard to like show off a personality.
Yeah.
All of that was just freaking squashed with this one.
I was like, dude, he is fan, tastic.
And the fact that he sings everything himself, bro.
Right.
Yeah, dude, I'm on the same page as Caleb.
Like I was never I've never been on board the Timothy Chalamet train because Dune bored the shit out of me.
Like not his performance was all right.
And I blame that probably on the script.
But yeah, I found the movie boring as hell.
Little Women, he wasn't enough for me to get in a good, I guess, impression of him.
And so like, I feel that this was my first true impression of Timothy Chalamet.
I get it now.
I completely get it.
Like this kid can freaking act.
He can sing.
He like I truly think Gene Wilder would be proud with his interpretation of Willy Wonka.
He knocked it out of the frickin park.
Yeah, he killed it.
Like, yeah, I'm with you.
Like, I never saw like the appeal with him.
And people were just like, oh, he's so funny.
Like, has a great personality.
I'm like, does he, though?
And I'm sure he does like in his personal life.
But I mean, I was going to say the like the interview, all the interviews I've seen from Wonka, he seems like such a nice guy.
Like, I would love to meet him in person.
He seems like such a chill guy.
Yeah. And dude, he it wasn't even like I it didn't take very long for me to frickin love his character.
Like it took me barely five minutes of him being on screen before I was like, I'm in.
Yeah.
Like it was the first like I think it was the first song that I was like, dude, like shit.
Right. Yeah.
Dude, frickin strong start, sir.
I find it funny that just because unfortunately, a lot of audiences do not love musicals.
Like it's not their cup of tea. And so the way that they have to advertise these movies, they don't have to.
They can't really advertise that they're a full blown musical.
And, you know, looking back at, you know, this trailer, the Mean Girls trailer, especially because you're really not seeing a lot of music in that one, even though it's a musical adaptation.
It's an adaptation of the musical from Broadway.
You kind of have to trick audiences these days into getting into their seats and they don't find out that it's a musical until the movie's already started, which is unfortunate because like it sucks that, you know, like I get musicals aren't for everyone.
They're my absolute favorite thing. Like next to horror movies. That's my shit.
I absolutely love musicals and I'm glad this and I'm glad that Caleb's on board with musicals as well.
I don't know how much he was before he met me.
I'm not very, not very at all.
I, there were, there were maybe a small handful of musicals that I actually enjoyed watching.
Now there is a much larger list and it's gotten me thinking like, do I actually like musicals?
Maybe it was just like, maybe it's just because I've like seen some shitty ones and maybe that's what's like turned me off.
But the ones that I've been watching lately have been like really good.
Because I mean any musical that we've done on the show like I've enjoyed.
Good. No, see, I love hearing that.
It's crazy that, you know, audiences have to be tricked nowadays into going to see musicals. But I hope that when they do actually watch them that they do really appreciate how good most of them are nowadays.
And Wonka is freaking up there for, for, sorry.
Wonka is freaking up there when it comes to musicals for me.
And the fact that this is an original musical like this isn't a Broadway adaptation, nothing like that.
These are original songs, original ideas that have, you know, never been told just blows my mind.
Yeah, I can't wait to get into the music because I have some like some thoughts on it.
Yes.
But yeah, getting back to the cast.
I think we can both agree. Number one is going to Timothy Chalamet. Oh, absolutely. Okay. God. So let's hear what your two, three and four are going to be.
Okay.
Number two.
I got to give it to Cala, Cala. What, how do we say her name.
I'm just going to guess that it's Cala. Cala. Sorry. Thank you. Cala Lane who played noodle.
Wow.
Amazing performance.
Like I said earlier, the brother sister dynamic that is created throughout between her and Wonka is so genuine. And it just makes you smile throughout and I feel when it truly comes to fruition with the song.
What is it, I don't think it's called life doesn't seem so bad.
It's her, you know, talk about how he's like the only good thing that has ever happened to her.
It's such a great song and it's so sentimental.
But just, there's that just watching their relationship build throughout. And when we get to the finale of her finding her mom, and, you know, her having a part ways with Willy Wonka.
It just, it feels, you're sad by it, but it feels so right that he was able to do such a genuinely beautiful thing for her.
Yeah.
So,
I was just looking through the soundtrack real quick. I think the one that you're thinking of is for a moment.
That's what it is. Thank you.
Number three.
God everyone is just so good.
I think number three.
I'm going to give to Patterson Joseph, who played slug worth loved his performance he added, I feel like it's a very with both adaptations I feel he's a one very one note character.
And this one he actually does give him a little bit of depth he's still kind of the same. He's, he's still a very sleazy guy. Yeah, well he's someone that you love to hate. Exactly.
And, and I feel Patterson Joseph just like makes that even more apparent and does an amazing job with that and frickin like he's my favorite out of the cartel.
All of them are so frickin good but he is the standout. He is just absolutely amazing, and I loved every single time the slug worth was on screen.
And then,
I think just because I enjoy he's not in it a lot but I just enjoyed his performance enough that I think number four I'll give to Hugh Grant, who played lofty slash Oompa Loompa.
What he brought to the character.
I really enjoyed the moments that he had with Willy Wonka were genuinely really funny, especially the ending when Wonka singing pure imagination to him. And he keeps calming to like when wonka is just like come with me he's like okay where, and you'll be in a
world of pure imagination he's just like it's a ruined castle.
It's just so great. It's, it's moments like that. I'm just like okay.
Like, I really appreciate you grant this role.
So, yeah, that would be my top four. Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Yeah, definitely given my number two to Cala.
I love what she said I thought her dynamic with with Wonka was perfection.
Like it was it was said, it was so sweet.
And I loved it.
My number three. On the other hand, I think I'm going to give to
you, even as Mrs scrub it.
I loved her.
Like, she was just so diabolical.
I'm just like every time she was on I'm just like, gosh, you are the worst.
But it's such like in an in an endearing way.
Yeah, that I was, I had a hard time like hating her.
Yeah, she's amazing.
Yeah, my number four, though I am going to be with you I'm giving it to Patterson Joseph, he knocked it out of the park, he was someone, again, another character that was just, I love to hate.
And his performance like his, how, how often he was just taken aback by things I was like, like, just over the top. I loved it.
He's just someone. Yeah. Like I said, love to hate. Like I thought he was such like the character is such a douche. But, like, again, in an endearing way.
Dude, the fact that they were going to drown Wonka and noodle in chocolate is so messed up.
Like, oh my god.
I know it was super messed up but like, like, I get like, you know, like, the same thing almost happens with Augustus and Willy Wonka so I'm wondering if freaking Wonka got flashbacks.
Well, I've been here before.
Yep.
Yeah, I thought that was so funny.
Dude, I gotta say I love the little nods to shit that you saw in Willy Wonka.
Yes, like I love how the, like the incorporation of the golden ticket.
Like that was, that was just beautifully done.
Like being able to like eating the environment.
Like that was frickin awesome like when he first opened the shop.
Yeah, like just all those little nods like they were great.
That's my top three. Hugh Grant is a very close number five though.
All right. Love it.
Yeah.
All right. So where are you sitting with acting.
It's just so freaking good.
I think, acting.
Because I feel like there, there are certain members of the Laundrette. There's only like two characters that like, just kind of bring it down for me a little bit.
So I think acting I'm going to be sitting at a 94.
Yeah, I was actually sitting a couple points lower I'm sitting like 92.
I mean, the the people that I had issues with.
Like even with like taking in consideration like Keegan Michael Key's character.
I didn't think that that character is fully necessary, but I enjoyed his performance. Yeah.
And I think that just has more to do with my, my appreciation for Keegan Michael Key.
No, seriously like spoiler for the music but just I feel it's like the way that he performs it. The, the sweet tooth song.
The ending when he's just like keep your wretched chocolates and Slugworth is he offers them 1800 boxes, and it's like the music just cuts he's just like, oh, done.
It's just so good.
Yeah.
So yeah I. Yeah, no one brought it down a lot. Yeah. If any it was like super minor extras. Yeah, I can yeah I can agree with that.
All right, moving on over to character development, which this is one that was done really well, I won't, I'm not going to say it was top tier, but it was done well.
Yeah, I agree. Um, yeah for like a Willy Wonka origin, like, this is pretty damn solid like seeing how you know he, he has so many ideas so many ambitions what he wants his chocolate to be when we first join him.
Like how he literally says in the song in the first song, all he has to offer is his chocolate and seeing him go through so many hurdles throughout like, you know, trying to sell his chocolate at first it doesn't work out.
And then becoming frickin a prisoner of Mrs scrub it with with what happened with him for the room and board, and just watching throughout him, trying to expose his chocolate to how to however many people that he can to work up to eventually getting a chocolate shop.
And you think that like when he's at his highest. It all comes crashing down again. And then after that, we do, he does you know like get built back up, but I feel that that actually like kind of took me by surprise that we see all this build up to him finally
getting a chocolate shop he gets it but then he gets put right back to ground zero. And I feel that that it surprised me so much that I actually appreciated that.
Yeah, it's almost like where he was starting off on the ground floor and then building up.
And then it's that emotional hit just took him even lower than he was like starting out and challenged him and his, his thoughts and just his dreams.
And I, I really liked that take on him, where he was.
He was pining for something that wasn't truly attainable with it being like him expecting his mother to like appear, whatever or whatever his idea of her keeping her promise was.
And then with when that didn't happen with this shop. And I think he was already kind of like down because of that and then just the, the whole blow up with the shop is is freaking crazy.
I really, I really like that and then again it challenged his, his dreams and his beliefs and and everything, and he was able to overcome that. Yes. And like I said it's not top tier but it is, it's damn good.
Yeah.
Like this is somewhere I I'm sitting.
Maybe around like an 87.
Really good. I think I'm just gonna be a little higher than you had an 89.
Fair enough.
Definitely doesn't crack 90s, but yeah, still super solid.
All right, next up we got effects.
This was, dude, I didn't see it in IMAX but this was a stunning movie.
Yeah, dude, frickin.
Seeing this in XD with like the last 10 minutes of how the factories being built around him. Just, oh my god just chef's kiss it was so beautiful.
Yeah, it looked incredible.
Oh my gosh, dude, we got to talk about that damn giraffe.
True that I don't know if that was a fully CGI giraffe or what the case was with that. That looked straight up real.
Dude, yeah, that really did.
And it always looked real too. Yeah, even when.
Sorry, no, I was just saying like it even then, like, in motion. It looked real.
Yeah, dude, seriously yeah when it's running through.
I don't know what it's called like the Cathedral. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, the Cathedral. Yeah, doesn't look fake one bit.
Yeah, that's amazing my frickin mind. Yeah, it looks so good. I was, I was really expecting it to look fake.
But at some point I was like okay it's going to make some face it's it's it's going to do something to make it look fake, and it did not. Yeah, a little bit. No, not not one bit.
Just, oh my god, just like, what do you think of the, the effect for the Oompa Loompa like the motion capture that they did.
I mean it looked okay.
So like the biggest thing that I'd have to say about the effects with this film is nothing felt out of place.
Like nothing felt like it was overly rubbery, like you, you definitely have those moments where it's like oh yeah this is like damn near pure CGI. Yeah, but there was enough real elements in it to distract from those things that looked overly rubbery.
I agree, like the scene where he's singing.
Oh my god, a world of your own, I think that's what it's called.
I think that I would know these, I should know these songs.
When he's singing that when he opens his chocolate shop, and you see Willy Wonka like you know jumping to one cloud to another which like you could definitely tell that you know like they, they look, I don't know, I don't know if you want to say fake but like they definitely
don't look like real clouds because you know they're made of cotton candy. But it's just like those kind of aesthetics, the way that they incorporate him, like, I guess like playing with his candy throughout that whole song, song, the effects of like how amazing the candy looked
throughout this movie.
Just freaking were incredible to me, just amazing.
Yeah, I mean they were fantastic.
And, yeah, honestly, spoiler alert, I think a world of your own was one of my favorite songs that fair. It's, oh my god.
It is so good.
Yeah, um, but yeah, freaking.
I can't think of a single thing that I was just like unimpressed with in terms of the effects because it's like, like I said, they had enough real elements about it.
That made it.
That enhanced it. Yes.
I would, I cannot wait for the behind the scenes stuff to come out with this film.
Yes, absolutely.
This is what I cannot wait to see how they how they did this because I do not believe for a single second that a majority of this was CGI.
A lot of it. A lot of it was.
Yeah, I feel like a majority was practical.
Yeah, I agree.
Or at least if a majority of it wasn't practical, the important things were practical. Yes.
I mean, and then obvious I mean you definitely got stuff that's like okay yeah he's very obviously on like wires and stuff which who cares, like that stuff.
With a character like this, you expect kind of that, that level of gracefulness that you can only achieve through wire work.
Yeah, I do. Yeah, like the scene where him and noodle are like dancing in the zoo.
Like the whole like balloons, stuff like that. Yeah, like definitely could tell her some wire work there but like like you said with with a character like Willy Wonka, it makes complete sense.
Yeah, it's just they they built it up in a way, and I think it like a big shout out has to be thrown to the first song.
The hat full of dreams that set the tone perfectly for what this film was going to be because it used wire work, it used practical effects, it used everything that this movie was going to utilize.
Yes.
So I mean, the biggest of shout outs there, so I, I'm pretty damn high on this one as well.
But how high. That's the true question.
I think I'm sitting at a pretty sturdy 94.
I think like everything about this like wire work.
And whatever was practical worked really worked really well and in line with the things that were probably CGI. Yeah.
But nothing stood out enough where I'm not completely able to call out what was CGI, and what was practical.
I think just the way that the ending of how the chocolate shop is being built for how much that just had me in awe and just smiling just how incredible that looked, I think I got to be slightly higher than you.
So I think I'm going to be at a 96.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
All right, next up we got music and Barrow.
The shit. Yeah, there is not one song in this soundtrack that I don't like.
Like, I've been listening to this song soundtrack nonstop since I saw this movie which I saw this on opening weekend, December, what was the 15th that it came out.
I will catch myself listening to the soundtrack at least once a day, and I do not skip over any song. Even the sad one. The sorry noodle song. I don't skip over it because it's still a good song.
It's the one song that I didn't 100% care for, but it was still a catchy tune, and that's like sweet tooth.
Really, yeah, that was the one song that didn't quite do it for me.
But I still appreciate its catchiness. Yeah.
So I mean that my person, this is just one that my personal feelings about the song vary from how I feel about how the song worked in this film.
Me, you don't have the hots for chocks.
My biggest complaint about musicals is every song sounds similar to the previous song, with the exception of like maybe one or two.
This one, every single song felt like its own entity.
And exactly, I cannot praise the soundtrack enough for being able to pull that off.
Like, holy shit.
Because like with others, like you can usually catch like they have the same tune.
It's just like it's the same tune as like a previous song, just like reworded a little bit. And there were a couple like times where there was like a reprisal of its of certain songs.
Yeah.
But overall, I mean the big musical numbers.
You can't frickin beat how like original those were. Each song felt like an original tune.
And I loved that. I mean, obviously not counting pure imagination, but still in Oompa Loompa.
But, dude, this soundtrack was the shit.
So good.
Yeah. So I have zero issue given this a 10 out of 10.
Yes.
Oh, that makes me so happy.
What's crazy too is after I left this movie, it wasn't necessarily pure imagination that was stuck in my head. It was a frickin a world of our own.
That's fair. I've actually heard a lot of people say the same thing.
Yeah, that's frickin nuts.
Because pure imagination is a frickin banger.
True that.
I think the one that's like stuck in my head for weeks has been half full of dreams. I don't know what it is about that one.
That's a damn good song too. That is a damn good song.
Yeah, there's not are not many songs in there. There aren't there aren't any songs in this that don't work.
Yeah.
And not having not only one, but two.
And for you, three songs that are all catchy.
Like, bro.
Yeah, just so good. So good.
Yeah. So I have no problems giving that a solid 10.
All right. Next up, we got costumes.
And so we got like the two main ones, one being Willy Wonka's outfit and the other being the design of the Oompa Loompa.
Which I mean, I get why the Oompa Loompa is not wearing his classic outfit from the first Willy Wonka.
You know, I'm sure that wasn't established until years later into it.
And I don't even I don't think that this is a true connection between the Gene Wilder one. It's kind of a looser connection, which totally OK with that.
Don't got anything wrong with that.
So the fact that, you know, like we see how the Oompa Loompas look on Loompa land, like all of their outfits are the word uniform.
That makes complete sense. But then when Lofty goes out on his own, on his own, you know, he changes it up.
He's he's a lot more fancier dressed. So it makes sense.
But frickin Wonka's outfit in this. Oh, my God. Fantastic.
Like, it's it's like Gene Wilder's.
But like, say, like, if I don't want to say Willy Wonka was poor, but it kind of does feel like that.
Yeah. I mean, you got to take that into consideration, though.
Yeah, that's true. Like, this is very much.
Willy Wonka pre legendary status. Yeah, that's true.
So like you freaking got the classic hat, you know, just overcoat, just like it all works perfectly, in my opinion.
Like they knocked it out of the park with how Willy Wonka looks.
Yeah. I mean, and just comparing this, I mean, I love that they matched the the color scheme and everything.
They matched the hair. Yes.
So, I mean, there's not a lot that doesn't fit with that.
I mean, you got the same kind of color scheme, though, in terms of like his outfit.
That is true. Like, I think in the.
In the movie, it's kind of like purple ish like outfit with the white overalls, and you kind of have that same.
Color. Like the the the I mean, facially, like you got the like the orange with the white eyebrows,
the the bright green hair like there's yeah, I mean, they freaking nailed it. Yeah.
Like I think and we talked about this earlier, I think the only real issue that we had was maybe the size.
Yeah, like I don't know.
The Oompa Loompas were never this small in the original Willy Wonka, which like I don't know.
It definitely seems like a loose prequel to the original Gene Wilder one.
So I guess, you know, make you wanting to make these changes, these little changes, but I would have liked to see the Oompa Loompas still looking the same size as they did in the original.
I mean, and we talked about this a little bit, too. I think the.
They should have gone.
With with a little person for the Oompa Loompa. Yes, absolutely.
Like you could have kept the height difference and everything like the size, but I think.
Yeah, I think they needed to go the little person route. I think that would have been more authentic to the Gene Wilder version.
Agreed. I mean, not not discounting the Hugh Grant's performance like he was great.
But it would have been something I would have liked to see.
And yeah, if they went that direction, they wouldn't have had to spend.
I'm assuming a decent amount on the motion capture that they had to do for Hugh Grant.
Probably a solid amount. Yeah, because that shit ain't cheap.
Nope. Yeah, but.
Gosh, I mean, this the costumes kind of have everything that you're looking for, like a solid silhouette.
Iconic outfit, I think I'm not at a 10 with this, though.
Yeah, I'm not either. I can agree with that.
I'm probably either strong eight or really weak nine.
I think I'm going to agree. I think I'm at a strong eight as well. Strong eight.
All right. Last up, we got our own personal scores. All right. Who's going first?
You pick. Coin flip. I'm just kidding.
I'll go first. God, I love this movie.
As you can see from see from our scores, both Caleb and I really, really enjoyed this movie.
The cast is amazing. Timothy Chalme.
Guy was incredible as Willy Wonka. This is his best performance I've ever seen.
And like I said, I'm finally on the Timothy Chalme train. I get it. I finally get it.
The music is incredible. Every single song is a toe tapper.
Even if I guess, OK, maybe minus some that, you know, like are like the meant to be genuinely sad songs.
I don't think you're going to be wanting to tap your foot to sorry noodle.
But yeah, the music is great. The supporting cast is great.
Just this is a it's an origin movie that I feel none of us asked for, but I'm so glad that we got it because I just love this movie so much.
I know we didn't do our top movies of last year of twenty twenty three, but this actually was this like easily became my number one of twenty twenty three.
I loved Wonka. So personal score.
I think I'm going to go on ninety seven.
Damn, I loved this movie.
Oh, shit.
OK. All right. I.
I am not at a ninety seven, but I did very much love this movie.
I'm sitting at a ninety one. OK, then it's going to be a difference.
Yeah. Oh, don't get me wrong. I love this movie.
It was fantastic. Yeah, I mean, it hit all the right notes for me.
I had I had a good time with it, but it's just it's.
This is one that I am definitely going to like re-explore, and it's one that I'm probably going to do a deep dive in terms of like the production of this.
Like, I cannot wait to see the production of this film.
Yeah. So, yeah, Sam, ninety seven. Are you saying you like this movie?
Yeah, I think that's exactly what Rose is saying there.
Very much so. Yeah, I'm with you.
Like, do you twenty twenty three has been a solid move or year for movies to. Yeah, like, I hope twenty twenty four is just as solid.
I don't know. I guess we'll find out. Yeah, you and me both.
But yeah, so I yeah, like I said, I can't personally justify giving it a ninety seven, but I am definitely within the nineties sitting at a ninety one.
All right. Yeah. All right.
With that, that wraps up this week's breakdown.
So going through these scores real quick, starting off with story.
We are sitting at a ninety four point five.
The writing is sitting at a ninety one point five.
Acting is sitting at a ninety three.
The character development is I want to say our lowest category sitting at in eighty eight.
Then our effects is got a pretty decent bumps in ninety five.
The music is sitting at a ten out of ten.
The costumes is sitting at an eight out of ten and the personal score ended up averaging to a ninety four.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for Wonka has come out to a.
A minus. Yes.
Yeah. And a pretty, pretty sturdy one.
It's definitely middle of the road sitting at a ninety two point six two.
OK. Which I mean, in terms of like the A minus movies, like that's not bad.
Yeah. Hell, yeah. Yeah.
So, jeez, this is probably so boring.
Sorry. I was I was having a frickin bitch of a time trying to find this.
All right. So Wonka sitting at an A minus ninety two point six two percent
puts it on the exact same level as last night in SoHo.
Wow. OK. Yeah. Hell, yeah.
There are going to be some hurt feelings with this rank.
Do you want to see here what it's below or what it's above first?
I kind of want to hear it's above.
There's all right.
I'm coming off real frickin hot.
Oh, this is sitting above.
Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
Oh, shit.
Oh, dude, we are going to get some frickin fire comments from that.
Oh, yeah. Because people have already written this movie off as trash.
What? That's what I feel like.
I have I have not seen a very positive views on this movie.
And people can go eat it. Yeah.
Right. I am glad, though, to see that it is actually doing decently at the box office.
I think it's a it's about to cross four hundred million, which a lot of people were expecting it to be a box office bomb.
So I'm very happy about that.
It's almost I hope that it can make it to the century mark.
Hope it can make it five hundred million. Yeah.
You and me both. All right.
It is also sitting above Joker.
Oh, shit. Dude, it is it's high.
Oh, I'm very happy about this.
It is also sitting above the Bob's Burgers movie.
OK. OK with that.
Then it is above Elvis.
OK. And then it is above the Eternals.
All right. That's fair.
Yeah. Go in the opposite direction.
It is sitting below Black Panther Wakanda forever.
OK. It is below Encanto.
OK. It is below Avengers Infinity War.
Fair. And it is below Avengers Endgame.
All right. That's fair.
I can agree with all those.
Oh, and then one more. It's below.
It's below Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem.
OK.
So I mean, the below it's like it's below what it's below.
It's like, yeah, like that tracks above.
It's like, shit. But can you disagree?
Exactly.
Oh, shit. I cannot wait to release that video.
Oh, dude, that's going to be amazing.
Top comment. What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Dude, no joke. No freaking joke.
Holy shit.
Dude, I don't know if Vick still watches the Vick still listen to our episodes.
Do you know? Maybe.
OK. I would be so curious to find out his opinion when he finds out that wonk is wearing tired into the spider.
Dude, I hope that we get messages about it.
I hope so, too.
I really do.
Yeah. So, oh, my gosh, I'm so pumped.
All right.
Hell yeah. All right. Well, I say that that's going to wrap up this episode.
Unless, Caleb, you got anything else you want to say?
Nope. All right.
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Yeah, we definitely do.
Next week on the podcast, we'll be breaking down a movie Caleb has already seen, but I have not yet.
I'm excited to see it because it's illumination and for the most part, they haven't let me down.
So we'll be breaking down migration.
So definitely excited for.
Wow. Definitely excited to check that one out.
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