What is up bros?
I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys
the most detailed reviews out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the Albrose.
Sam's already in the.
How much are you rocking the.
Roll? I love it.
I know it's been a hot minute since we've.
True. Been like consistently post and are at least not posting.
Posting we've been pretty consistent about the streaming.
Damn, he really struggled with that.
Dude, I.
Hmm. Oh, wow.
That's going to be a long episode.
I know I have not been eating my my veggies, so big words.
Flying out of my brain.
But it's been rough lately.
It has been real rough trying to remember shit.
Did you know anyway?
You can't say that.
I know, dude, I know it's a frickin.
It's a curse.
Anyway, this week on the podcast, we have three new items
that we're going to talk about in. Or case spotlight.
Wow, he is.
Dude, I told you today today is going to be frickin rough forever.
Well, oh, but.
Yeah. And then and through the wall, we are going to just be discussing
the past six years that we've been doing this show, because it is today.
The Albrose birthday as as of the day that we're recording,
not the day that this releases. Yeah.
Different spend time with Rose.
We'll have you talking like him.
Damn, Sam, frickin shots fired at me.
Yeah, that was a frickin like good shot, too.
Yeah, that was that was really good.
I can't I can't really be mad.
I mean, it's true.
But like, damn, I didn't know I talked about that.
Just the the reading with Rose is just like bled off of you.
That's true.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we'll be discussing that.
And then after all of that, we will be getting into this week's
headliner where we will be breaking down the Marvels.
Yes.
Yeah, we are very excited for this.
And with that, we will be getting into the next week's
with that, let's say we get on into this.
Let's do it.
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All righty, first up for case spotlight, like we said.
So this week, like we said, we got a few new releases
and Rose is going to walk us through these.
Yes.
Excuse me.
So first up, we got a movie that I don't know about Caleb,
but I don't give a shit about because I never saw the first three.
I've seen, you know what?
I don't know if I've seen any of them.
Really?
At least not all the way through, at least.
Yeah, OK. I haven't seen not.
I haven't even seen like any clips, nothing from any of these.
Just I don't know. They've never interested me.
And I heard this one sucked.
Like, this is like the worst out of all of them.
So I have no plans on checking this one out,
nor do I have plans on checking out the first three.
But, nope.
Despite that, the Expendables 4 comes out on 4K and Blu-ray this coming Tuesday.
So when this episode releases tomorrow.
So this is the regular 4K release.
I'm pretty sure that this was just the basic poster that they did.
So you got Stallone and Statham at the top,
and then you got the rest of the cast on the bottom.
So for exclusives, you have a Amazon exclusive slip cover where it's...
I don't know whose hand this is supposed to be,
but it's a very cool skull ring.
I will give them that.
I think that's Stallone's.
OK, that's Stallone's.
OK, that makes sense.
I would assume it would have been him or Statham's.
Yeah, it's one of the two.
Again, I don't know this movie well enough to be able to judge that.
I'm just assuming.
Yeah.
So like I said, Amazon exclusive.
I think it's just a slip cover.
Or I think it's just a slip cover that's different.
I don't think the regular 4K version when you take off the slip cover is different.
I'm sure it's the exact same as the other picture that we showed.
Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying.
But I mean, you know, if I actually liked this franchise, this is pretty cool.
And then lastly, so we got the Expendables for Steelbook.
And I will say that I do appreciate with this one,
so this is going to become a Best Buy.
And I do appreciate that the way that this is set up, it goes with the other three Steelbooks that they released this past year.
And so when you have all of these lined up, it's actually going to look freaking beautiful.
And if I was an Expendables fan, I'd be very happy because I hate when, you know, they release all of the like they release all of the movies in a series
in preparation for the newest one to come out, but then the new one isn't like the Steelbook design is nothing like the ones that they did for the previous films.
A huge one this year was Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1.
That Steelbook looked nothing like the ones that they did for the previous films that came out this damn year,
because the ones that they did, it was kind of like, you know, like it was like a character poster, but they still looked really cool.
Whereas freaking Dead Reckoning was it was a black steel, sorry, was a red steelbook with a silhouette of Tom Cruise hanging from a train.
It was stupid. It didn't work. In my opinion, I hate that it didn't fit with the other Steelbooks.
And like freaking the new the Indiana Jones, Dial of Destiny Steelbook that's coming out soon.
It doesn't match the the previous four Steelbooks because they did poster artwork for those.
And I wish they would have done the same thing with with Dial of Destiny, whereas we'll actually wait.
I'll save that. I'll save how the Steelbook looks for for the episode that we talked about that.
But just if there's one thing that I appreciate about this is that it actually matches the other Steelbooks.
And I feel studios need to freaking do that more. Yeah, dude.
I hate when people just don't follow the template.
You hate you have created something that's supposed to be part of a grouping and you're going to vary from that.
What kind of bullshit, what kind of mental game is that? Thank you.
That is bullshit. It really is.
It's frustrating. But what can you do?
Bitch about it on a podcast. Exactly.
This guy gets it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So that that's expendables for any of you plan on picking that up.
Next, we got one of my favorite films of the year. Freaking love this movie, Oppenheimer.
Coming to 4K. We got classic 4K. Just the regular theater poster.
It still looks really cool. I especially love the lighting on this poster, so I'm sure that especially on a slip cover, this shit is going to look fire.
That's all I'm going to say. See, it's funny because, you know, there's fire in the background. Yeah, I got it, Rose.
Oh, OK. Just making sure. Just just just making sure.
You know, I know sometimes, especially with this episode, jokes might go over your head. So someone's about to get bitch.
Hey, I just I just wanted to let you know I got your back, man. OK.
So so that's the regular 4K edition.
This the steel book, which I am so excited for. Oh, my freaking God. I love this so much. I preorder this shit so fast.
And I think preorders are already sold out, which I completely understand.
And, you know, the fact that Best Buy is doing away with physical media, I'm sure people are trying to get as many Best Buy exclusive steel books as they can.
That still freaking kills me that they're doing that. But whatever.
Dude, this one's pretty dope. Right. It's so beautiful. Like, oh, my God.
I have nothing else to say to that. I have nothing else to say about the steel book, except it's beautiful. It's gorgeous.
No notes, no notes.
That's fantastic. Right. It's it's so beautiful.
And then we have a Walmart exclusive, which is basically a Digipack.
Kind of like what Warner Brothers has been doing with the.
Well, actually, they stopped doing it for some reason.
The Flash was the last one that they did it for because they didn't do it with Blue Beetle.
They just did another steel book for Walmart, which I don't understand why.
I freaking loved these. The Flash one was really cool. And the one before that Shazam.
That one was really cool. Seems those are the only two movies that they did them for because they never did it for Black Adam.
But so I know that I know those are Warner Brothers movies, but I know for they have done this for Universal movies in the past.
They did it for Fast X.
So it's cool to see that they're doing it for Oppenheimer as well.
And it looks like this also comes with a bonus. So I'm I'm I don't know if that's also the incentive to get this Walmart exclusive.
But honestly, super cool cover.
You know, him looking through the window, watching the atom bomb test as it explodes.
Interesting choice. Not if are you not a fan? I am not a fan.
OK, I mean, I mean, I my version of this movie is already spoken for with the steelbook
because that is just freaking gorgeous. And, you know, I cannot get over that.
But I still feel that this is a pretty decent addition.
Do I plan on double dipping? Probably not.
But it's not a horrible cover, in my opinion.
It's not great either.
Damn. Caleb is so nice this episode, isn't he?
Hey, I'm the nicest person you'll ever freaking meet. You know what?
He's not wrong. Explains why we've been friends for so long.
Moving on, we got Expendables for Oppenheimer.
And last but not least, Saw X is coming 4K. Freaking love this movie.
Right. So freaking good.
And I hate that this isn't getting a steelbook, but you know what?
That's OK, because I freaking love this poster and I love that it's the choice for the cover.
It's freaking great. Just God, I love it.
And the freaking this trap in particular in the movie is f'ed up.
And that was kind of hard to watch.
Not exactly what I thought it was going to be, but I still really liked it.
Same here. But just it makes for a killer poster.
You got to give it that.
When it comes to like saw posters like throughout the whole franchise, this is definitely probably my top three.
Because I will give you that.
Very much so. This shit looks so freaking cool.
But yeah, so I don't really have anything else to say. Like I'm bummed that it's not going to steelbook release, but you know, I get it.
Maybe down the line it might.
Honestly, I am kind of shocked that it's not considering that Jigsaw got one as well as Spiral got one.
So I'm really shocked Saw X isn't getting one.
But yeah, oh, well, I guess take what you can get.
And I will definitely be picking this one up on release day because like Caleb and I said, we freaking love this movie.
This is one of the best Saw movies to ever grace this franchise.
Oh, yes.
Sorry, are you going to say something?
No, it's just was that all you had in 4K?
Yeah, that's it for 4K.
All right. Well, moving on from there to through the wall.
Today is the official like it's the six year anniversary of us doing the podcast.
The first ever episode was released November 14th of 2017, which is crazy.
The podcast, dude, like the podcast has been going on on a lot longer than I thought it was ever going to.
Same here. I mean, hell, I don't I didn't think that we well, OK, I maybe thought that we'd make it a year.
I thought so. But, you know, never thought we'd make it more than half a decade.
That is that is absolutely insane.
Thank you, Sam. Yeah.
And you know what? I apologize, Sam, when you said like this was freaking like 20 minutes ago or we haven't even been recording for 20 minutes.
This was like like five minutes ago or something like that.
I meant to respond to your comment. Love you, too. I'm sorry. I promise. I'm not ignoring you.
Yeah, but, dude, like it's freaking wild.
I wish that we would have been able to line this up with our 300th episode, which is coming next week.
Yeah, that that would have been freaking awesome. But yeah, it's OK.
Yeah, we have some fun things planned for for that one. Yes, we do.
But just it's been one hell of a ride. I'm so grateful that Caleb honestly, the Caleb's the one that thought about doing a podcast, asked me if I was actually serious about it.
I told him, yeah, I'd be up for, you know, trying it out. And here we are.
I think you joked about it and you're just like, we should go to podcast.
Yeah, I was I was the one. Yeah, I'm like, Ben.
Yeah. And here we go.
Frickin Albrecht six years later.
And yeah, I know.
Like, yeah, I'm grateful that Caleb decided to take us on this journey.
It's been one hell of a ride. And I'm truly grateful for what we've been able to create together.
And I'm very proud of it. Yeah, I am, too.
Like, like this bit like the all bros is the.
I mean, more or less, it's frickin it's our love child, whether you like it or not, Rose. No, no, no, it's my only child.
Unless no, Caleb doesn't let me count my cat. So I guess this is my only child. Yep.
Wow. Caleb doesn't understand what it's like to be a cat, Dad. I do absolutely understand what it means to be a cat, Dad.
And it frickin sucks ass. No, it does. I mean, not when you have my cat, my cat's the shit.
Love my cat. Hey, you've never met my cat. You've never met Alexander's Alexander.
Six years as well. Yeah, it absolutely is.
It's frickin crazy, dude, just to think about. I mean, last year, like five years was frickin crazy to us.
Eventually, I mean, every year that this goes on, it's just like, wow,
made this work. Yeah, we're still going. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, to everyone's surprise, because we didn't start out strong like at all.
No, dude, frickin I hate honestly, no offense, but I hate going back and listening to our like first like 20 episodes and just the audio, the like frickin when we were trying out
the like how it would cut out pauses. So like it kind of like so jerky.
It was so bad. I it seems like a good idea at first, but it didn't work out. Yeah, there was a better way to frickin do it.
I've I've come to learn and yeah, but bro, I I listen back to those when I feel like I'm getting a little too cocky.
It's just like I need. That's a way. Yeah, it's like I need a quick humbler.
Like that's that's why I love that so much. It's just like I'm getting a little too big for my britches. Like I need something to just center me down the earth and like, yep, you're an idiot.
Oh, shit, dude. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah.
But I like to think now that we have something that people enjoy and it's actually not like unbearable to listen to.
But it's it's been fun and I'm super excited to see how long this goes.
Dude, it's going to be a sad day if this ever like stops. Dude, seriously.
I don't want to think about that. Let's not think about that. Yeah, I don't.
I don't want to think about saying goodbye to the Alvarez. That's too depressing.
So we'll see you guys on the 40th birthday. Yeah. God, how old would we be with that?
Sixty something. Oh, Jesus.
Or actually, well, because they're like 90 something because we're almost 30.
It's so for so you say I'm making it to 90. The body I got that a half minute.
They like part of me thinks I will. Yeah, I think I think this podcast dies with one of us.
Yeah, I can. One of us goes. It's just like, yeah, we're done. Yeah, I agree.
It won't be the same. The all bro doesn't have that that same ring to it.
Yeah. You know, maybe that could be something we pass on to our kids.
Like maybe Iris and one of your little rose babies. Yeah, there we go.
We'll take it over. That'd be fun. That would be.
No, see, how about this? We have Iris and my cat. There we go.
That will be the all bros 2.0. That would be hilarious. That would be.
But yeah, so thank you all that have stuck around with us for this long.
Looking at you. Thank you. Yes.
But yeah, it's been it's been a good ride. Yeah.
Yeah. But before we get a little more emotional about it before we start, you know, like the tears actually start showing.
Let's say we get into this week's headliner. Let's do it. All right.
All righty. First up and before we get into this week's headliner, we did ask a question of the week last week or this week, I guess.
But we asked if you could swap play or if you had the ability to swap places with your best friend, like what kind of trouble would you get into?
And we did get a few responses somewhere that are some places that we.
Reading with Rose wouldn't change a bit with the cat reading.
I don't know how to feel about that, Sam. That's fucking hilarious. That is funny.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, we said if you gain the ability to swap places with your best friend, I will. What kind of trouble would you get into?
So we got a few responses, some on Instagram and a couple on Tiktok.
So with that, I'll start off. We got a response from a Jesus Dominguez who said, I'll go to the bottom of the ocean.
And once I go to a point of no return, we'll switch.
Damn.
OK, like how much do you hate your best friend? Yeah, no joke, right?
Like that is messed up, but it's freaking funny. You should know that's funny.
But like you should best friend even be included in this because.
As a joke, I would never do that to Caleb.
Yeah, I mean, I probably wouldn't do like the point of no return, but I think I would definitely swap places with you if I was in some random location.
Just like don't worry that you were just like, where in the actual hell is this?
You know, fair enough. All right.
Like this is what I think. Yeah, like I'd probably go out into like.
Maybe like a field somewhere in Kansas where it's just like flat for miles and then just like middle of the field away from like a car and everything.
So like the car is not like you can't find it very easy and then just like swap places with you.
Jokes on you. I'll make sure that I have my ruby red slippers on me and I'll just come together and just say there's no place like home.
There's no place like home.
Or I could just follow the yellow road either.
Definitely both options there.
But yeah, so what's your first one? Mine come from tick tock with the name connects and they said I can't legally say.
I don't want to know. Usually I want to know. I don't want to know.
That's funny as shit. It is.
I was expecting some weird ass answers and this is like the perfect summation of what I thought it was our our our comment section was going to look like.
Yeah, just like I thought people were going to get into some crazy, like illegal type shit.
And so yeah, like this perfectly sums up what I thought the comment section was going to be fair enough.
All right.
Let's see. Next we got a response from an Alexander Murphy, who just said a lot of trouble.
Yeah, I would basically like ruin your best friend's life like are you just like are you just out to destroy their life?
I'm curious now. Is it is it a revenge story?
I don't know if it's like a revenge story.
I don't know. What did they do? What did they do to hurt you?
I'm curious now. Reach out to the Albrows. We're here to help you reach out.
Reach out. We're here for you. We are here to listen. Exactly.
Now, just email us the Albrows channel at Gmail dot com.
We'll help you in any way that we can. Yep.
All right. And let's see, did you have any others?
Yeah, I got one more coming from Tig D Gamer and they said Oogie Boogie.
I don't know exactly what that's supposed to mean, but good for you.
Yeah. Like is that supposed to be a nightmare before Christmas reference?
That's what I thought. Like when I first saw it.
I'd assume so. You know, if that's the case, you know, great movie.
So cool reference. Didn't answer the question, but that's OK.
You got any other responses?
Yeah, I got one more from a Scoot the Was who said he got some annoying
ass dogs that bark all the time. So I'd go and shut their asses up.
Damn. People are not nice to their friends.
Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.
Honestly, like the only reason I'd switch, switch places with Kail was just to be
the F with them like kind of what he was talking about, you know, like going
far out into the woods, like nowhere and then, bam, switch just so you know,
like mess with each other, not shit like that.
I got no quarrels with my best friend.
Yeah, I'm very grateful for it.
Yeah. So that's all the responses that that we got.
So thank you to everyone that answered our question the week.
We really appreciate it. Yes, we do.
We love the the interaction that we get on these.
Even when it's not actually answering the question.
Yeah, it's just some random word, but hey, it's still participation.
We'll take it. We love it. Yeah, it works.
It definitely works.
All right. Well, with that, I do believe that we can move on to
our actual headliner this week.
So if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight
different categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros
letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story writing, acting, character
development, effects, music, costumes.
And then we give our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm
and give us an all bros letter grade to compare this movie to others of a
similar grade.
Let's see.
I always tell Stacey, my best friend and wife, that if we could swap, I
would spend the first day in front of a mirror.
Oh, this is OK.
This is more like like switching spaces, not switching.
This guy is this is not Freaky Friday.
Do I had to think for a minute?
I know.
It's my way to damn it.
Dude, I knew exactly where his head was going with this one.
I like it, though. I like it.
But this is more like changing physical places, not not my swap.
I think that fricking.
But I do like where your head's at.
And that is exactly how I would spend that if that was the swap to so.
Please tell me you've seen the live action Scooby Doo, right?
Oh, yeah, of course.
Remember when like they keep switching?
Yeah. When Fred goes into Daphne's body.
Yeah. He's like, hey, I could look at myself naked.
Yeah, I'm a single person, a single man that wouldn't do that.
If you got swapped into a female body, I mean, gay men.
Am I wrong?
I am going to say yes.
Really?
I'm going to say that you're wrong.
I'm hold up, hold up, hold up. OK.
I'm going to say you're wrong. Because, oh, man, this is weird.
If anyone, there's a certain amount of there's certain people that I pray only pretend to listen to this episode.
Oh, shit. Yeah.
So I feel like if it was a man, despite his is sexual orientation, getting put into a female body,
I believe that the female body is interesting enough and intriguing enough even to gay men that that is something that they would also do.
I feel like that's a bold enough claim to make.
Interesting. OK, maybe. Listen. OK, maybe this, maybe this.
I don't think they would do it for as long as we would, but they would definitely do it.
All right.
What you think you could disagree with that?
No, I'm like trying like I like I want to ask like someone about this.
I know I don't have very many gay friends, though.
I have one. I should ask him next time I see him. I'm going to ask him.
It's like, so, hey, what's up?
What's up? OK, do you have his number? No, I don't. I was going to say freaking call him.
Oh, shit. But yeah, absolutely agree with you, Sam.
That's exactly how I would spend my day, too.
Anyway, so getting into this week's breakdown about that Marvels.
Yeah. So if you have not seen the Marvels, we are about to spoil pretty much everything for you.
And believe us, there is quite a bit to spoil.
Yes, there is. So we are going to be putting that spoiler alert up now.
And if you choose to listen beyond this point and have not seen the Marvels and everything is spoiled for you.
Sucks to suck. Yeah, sucks to suck.
So with that comes our favorite segment that we like to call Reading with Rose.
Excuse me. All right.
Carol Danvers defies the influence of the Supreme Intelligence and destroys it,
which leads to a Cree civil war and the desolation of their homeworld, Hala.
The conflict renders the planet barren as it loses its air, water and sunlight.
Darben, the new leader of the Cree, retrieves one of the quantum bands of which Kamala Khan has the other half.
Darben harnesses the power of the band to tear open a jump point in space.
The resulting anomaly is discovered by sword.
Meanwhile, Nick Fury, now residing at the Saber space station, hosts peace talks between the Cree and the Scrolls.
Monica Rambeau investigates a jump point anomaly near Saber while Carol Danvers investigates the source of the anomaly,
where Darben found the quantum band.
When Rambeau touches the anomaly, she, Danvers and Kamala switch places through teleportation.
The switching causes the three to fight each other's Cree enemies, leaving the Khan's house destroyed in their wake.
After the three women return to their original places, Fury and Rambeau visit Kamala on Earth.
As Kamala eagerly demonstrates her powers, she switches places with Danvers.
When Danvers flies away, she switches places with Kamala in midair.
The group surmises that their light-based powers are linked through quantum entanglement
and that they switch places when any of the three use their powers simultaneously.
The three join up at a Scroll refugee colony on the planet Tarnax, where talks of the resettlement have dissolved.
Darben rips open another jump point, which siphons the atmosphere of Tarnax into Hala to try and restore its air.
After a hasty effort to evacuate the colony, Danvers, Rambeau and Kamala form a team informally referred to by Kamala as the Marvels.
Danvers informs the others of the legend that the Quantum Bands had been used to create the Jump Point Transportation Network.
The three became entangled due to their mutual contact with its energy when Darben disrupted it.
Darben's repeated rupturing of jump points is causing further instability to the network and endangering the universe.
For some reason, I feel that this synopsis is just jumping all around.
It very much is.
Okay, it's not just me.
Darben reaches the water planet Eladna, where she tears open a jump point to draw the ocean water into Hala.
Her final plan is to usurp Earth's Sun to restore that of Hala.
The Marvels fight and subdue Darben, but she steals Kamala's band and uses both bangles in conjunction
to tear open another hole in space.
The act destroys Darben and leaves behind a rupture into the multiverse.
After Kamala reclaims the bands, she and Danvers use their combined powers to energize Rambeau, allowing her to close the hole from the other side, stranding her in the process.
Danvers flies into Hala's Sun and uses her power to restore it.
The short-lived team-up inspires Kamala to seek out other heroes and form a new group, starting with Kate Bishop in a mid-credits scene.
It's actually not a mid-credits scene. It's an end.
Yeah, part of the movie.
Yeah, it's the end scene.
Rambeau awakens in a...
Oh, wait, I'm sorry. I read that wrong.
Apparently, I can't see periods. My bad.
So, okay. Let's rewind it here. Let's actually use proper grammar with reading with prose.
The short-lived team-up inspires Kamala to seek out other heroes and form a new group, starting with Kate Bishop.
Okay, that was the end of the sentence. End movie. There you go.
In a mid-credits scene, Rambeau awakens in a parallel universe where she is greeted by an alternate version of her mother, Maria.
Maria?
Maria.
Maria, oh my God. Jesus.
In The Mutant Scientist, Hank McCoy, also known as Beast. So, yeah, there you go.
Just because it is a small part and I don't want to talk about it too much, that end credit or the mid-credits scene, I do kind of have a complaint about Beast.
What's that?
He's kind of way too big.
Fair and honestly, I feel because it's, I don't know about you, but it definitely looked like it was CGI.
Very much so.
Yeah.
Very much so.
Why couldn't they have just done prosthetics like they've done in the past?
Yeah, I know.
I mean, God, who played him again?
Kelsey Grammer.
Kelsey Grammer. I mean, Kelsey Grammer came back and if that's the case, I think he would have been fine with putting the makeup on again.
Yeah.
If he came back, I think it would have been fine.
So, yeah, they made him way too big.
Beast is supposed to be like kind of more on the short, stocky side.
So is he kind of like the thing?
Yeah, I wouldn't say he's, well, let me just look real quick because I don't want to freaking be talking out of my ass.
I mean, because he's definitely no Hulk, of course. He's not that big.
All right. So this is from the official Marvel character synopsis, right?
Okay.
Yeah, X-Men are subject beast name Henry Hank McCoy.
His height is five foot eleven.
Wow.
I'm only wow. He's that he's only that tall.
Yeah, that's how tall he's supposed to be.
Really? Wow. Okay.
Yeah. So, dude, I honestly I feel like the height that he was in in the original X-Men movies was perfect.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with you there.
The only thing that I liked maybe a little bit more was the classic hairstyle, like the pointed hair.
That's fair.
I can understand that.
Yeah. And in other stuff, I mean, they kind of looked like Kelsey Grammer's Beast kind of looked like it was like somewhat mimicking this.
But this one, it was very more like it was more like the the point was kind of off to the side.
Yeah. And more like long, flowy hair where this was just like it was up higher and I feel works a little bit better.
So I preferred I prefer the hairstyle. I prefer the height from the original.
And they they absolutely needed to go prosthetic.
Yes. There's no good reason other than them maybe not wanting to spend the money to do the prosthetics for them to do that.
But isn't that usually a lot cheaper than CGI?
Usually, yeah.
Dude, like if there's anything that proves that prosthetics are cheaper, it's the fricking budget for like a shit ton of movies.
True. At least the ones that have been like coming out lately.
Yeah. You're not wrong.
Yeah. So, I mean, that's all I'll say about that, because that's such a small part of the movie.
It's not really going to affect too much. Yeah.
So getting right right on into this, starting off with story.
What did you think overall?
Honestly, I thought it was super solid.
I feel when it comes to a sequel to Captain Marvel, even though, you know, it's it's Captain Marvel came in between Infinity War and Endgame.
You know, this has to take place after, you know, the blip, all that stuff, you know, years into the future.
The fact that the way that they're able to, I think, set up Carol's story is I feel very well told how she's struggling,
her relationship with Monica Rambeau and how Monica still holds basically.
I want I don't want to say aggression.
Maybe like a mild grudge.
There we go. Thank you. Yeah. She still holds a mild grudge towards Carol for basically leaving her and never coming back when she said that she would.
So you got, you know, that that conflict and then throwing in Kamala, her family.
And the way, especially the way that her parents connect with Nick Fury in that whole scenario, that that was so, so, so freaking good and so funny.
It was good.
So very much not like the Nick Fury we know.
That's fair. I mean, I still felt maybe a little bit that it did.
I mean, I could be wrong. I never. I did you watch Secret Invasion? Yes. Okay.
I did. That's what I've heard. I didn't. So I can't compare, you know, that Nick Fury to this Nick Fury, you know, stuff like that.
But like I get where you're coming from. In some instances, it definitely didn't feel like the Nick Fury that we've gotten in the past.
I feel I don't know. I feel for the way that they wanted the story to go. It made sense.
It didn't feel like completely out of character for Nick Fury. I felt.
I will say this. It made him feel this film made him feel more like how he was portrayed in Captain Marvel, where he was a little bit like lighter, lighthearted.
And honestly, I think I love that because I mean, don't really get a lot of scenes of them together.
But any scene that you get Carol and Nick together is fantastic. I love their relationship.
Honestly, I wish that we could have gotten more scenes together like we did in the first one, which, you know, I get.
I can understand why they didn't get a lot of scenes together for, you know, story wise.
But, you know, honestly, I feel like like said, I think it was a really good idea.
So wise for a sequel to Captain Marvel, the three women, I feel, work very well together as a team.
I don't know, just like overall, like a super I feel when it story wise, it's a solid follow up to Captain Marvel.
Yeah, I will say I think I like this film better than Captain Marvel.
I can agree with that. I will say that this I do feel like the motivations with this antagonist much better than the first.
Yeah, dude, straight up.
Because what I did not like about like I think what kills the first one's villain for me is that you get such a relationship set up with Captain Marvel and Yon Rogg to where I'm sure that they wanted it to feel more personal when he does portray her.
But just I feel it killed the character for me. It didn't work.
If anything, you think that he would be on Carol's side. He wouldn't switch.
He wouldn't just turn to the dark side. It didn't make sense for the character.
Well, I mean, it didn't make sense in the way that they built him up.
All right. I mean, you do see that ultimate betrayal, but I think the betrayal comes a little too late.
That's fair.
So yeah, I'm like, I'm like, eh, very about it.
Caleb, can I ask a favor? Can you take me off center stage?
Oh, yeah, sorry.
No, you're good. Thank you.
For God to switch it back.
Sorry, I don't like that much attention being called to me for that long.
Yeah, my bad. You're good.
Yeah, I. So I mean, I could see that the big screen up here, but I pay attention to the small little ones down below.
OK, so that's why I didn't think anything of it.
For a couple of minutes, I'm just like, is he going to notice?
Is he going to change it?
Did I say something?
You absolutely should say something.
OK, good to know for future.
But yeah, I feel like the betrayal came a little late and we were already kind of suspicious of him.
Like it was it didn't seem like the relationship between them was like good or friendly.
I mean, it felt more competitive. And so the.
He already had some like somewhat of an anger towards her.
True. And so when he did it, ultimately end up being the betrayer, it was it was like, yeah, kind of saw that one coming.
But here the the the antagonist in what Ben or Birden Darby or Darben, she.
Her motivations were good.
And I think a really important thing that they were able to do is make her not.
Really a villain, at least not in her eyes.
She wasn't doing this to destroy these worlds.
She was doing it because she felt like it was the Cree's God given right to take these resources from these people.
These people that we have, like that they like we've given you these colonies out of the goodness of our hearts.
Like you can either accept this or we will take it from you. Yeah.
Or like you could work with us or you're against us.
And if you're against us, we'll jack you up.
And the the motivations were strong, especially and like they didn't really like hit for me until she was on Hala.
And like talking with the people and they were like sitting in darkness and she's like bringing air to them.
So, yeah, I'm very, very pleased with how they handled that.
I know, I absolutely agree.
But yeah, I mean, the flow is great. The character interactions were good.
This kind of felt like I mean, this wasn't best Marvel by any stretch of the imagination, but this was definitely up there.
It honestly was. I mean, you know, I know, as I'm sure everyone knows, the MCU has definitely struggled since Endgame
to try to find a fine line to walk with where they want to take this franchise.
Excuse me. And honestly, after what we got with Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania,
which, you know, me and Caleb did not hate as much as everybody else did.
This is still by far better.
This felt like a return to form for Marvel. It's not one of Marvel's best.
It's nowhere near, you know, like Iron Man or, you know, anything like that.
But like personally, I'd put it on like the levels for how much I enjoyed it of like maybe like the first Ant-Man,
maybe not the first Ant-Man, but like Ant-Man and the Wasp, maybe the first, maybe that one.
Or maybe I even maybe I actually might put it on the level of Ant-Man
because the way that these three ladies work together is so it's so much fun to watch.
Watching them banter off each other is absolutely fantastic.
I think this is the best that we've gotten from Carol Danvers, AKA Captain Marvel.
I feel I mean, we'll get to this with acting, but this is the best that I've seen Brie Larson
in this character, even better than the first one. Very much so.
Because I mean, we in the first one and just anything we've seen her outside of the first movie, she plays such a hard ass.
She does. It's hard to get that like that fun personality out of her.
And I think this was was able to do it. And it's because of who she had by her side.
Yeah, oh, absolutely agree. Dude, frickin there.
Her Kamala Khan meeting Captain Marvel, like that was honestly better than I could have imagined.
That was that was just so good. Like her like her handshaking her or them handshaking and her being like,
so so on this on the streets of New Jersey at night, I go by Miss Marvel and I hope that's OK.
And if it's a it's like a copyright thing, maybe we can talk about it later.
I'm just like, oh, my God, this is this is frickin great.
This is absolutely fantastic. The good times in this were infectious.
Yeah, they really were.
Dude, I want to talk to who's ever idea it was for Goose to have a litter that ate everyone.
I was dying. That was so great.
The fact that they're literally just running across the ship, just saying, no, no, no, let them eat you.
Let the chickens eat you. It's it's part of the plan.
It's how you're going to survive.
Dude, I think what would top that off for me, what like the icing on the cake was that they were playing memory from cats.
Yeah, I was like, this is this scene is pure perfection.
Yeah. I I'll say that I had a big issue with the whole singing world.
I hated that world. I thought that was so dumb.
It was kind of funny, but it wasn't as funny as it lost its funniness after like a couple of seconds to say.
But I but I completely like forgot about that after the frickin cat scene. I was losing my mind.
That was so good. So you went to go see this at Cinemark, I'm assuming. Right.
Yeah. Have you seen what AMC was doing? No.
So they had like the commemorative popcorn tins and stuff.
The popcorn tin was a flurkin egg.
Oh, that's awesome. And it would. And any time like any time you purchased one, it was a secret.
Which of the what color cat you got inside it was one of six.
But yeah, you open it up and there's a little cat in there and the cat like the it's out for drinks.
Dude, that's so cool. Yeah.
I am so frickin tempted to buy one.
I don't know. Tempted. Cinemark is lame.
You can do anything like that. Yeah. I mean, AMC does some cool shit, dude. Yeah. No kidding.
Yeah, but I don't know why I got it, but I've I guess I've used my premium.
I never signed up for their premium membership,
but they did give it to me. I guess it's because I go there so frequently and have used my account there.
Oh, yeah. The only perk that I don't have and it's like you have to pay for the stubs is.
The three free movies a week. OK.
So if I pay if I were to pay for stubs, like I would absolutely take advantage of that, because I feel like I get my money's worth.
Oh, yeah, dude. Definitely.
Yeah. So I freaking loved loved everything that was was happening with this movie.
And the the flirkin thing made it like amazing.
The fact that they played memory was amazing.
I freaking loved it. But the the combat in this, too, was freaking awesome.
Dude, yes. Seriously. The way that they were able to.
Yeah, like make their powers work with each other, the scene, especially towards like the beginning when they they keep switching back and forth.
You know, this is the first time that they're realizing it.
And the way that the fight choreography is planned out with each of them is so freaking cool.
That scene is a treat to watch.
And that that arguably is like one of my favorite scenes to come out of the MCU and probably the last five years.
Absolutely agree with you there.
So overall, I mean, I don't have too many complaints about the story here.
Like I said, it's more on the average, maybe above average side in terms of Marvel storytelling.
So I'm personally I'm sitting around maybe an eighty six.
Dude, that's exactly what I was sitting at. Yeah. Yeah. Love it.
I could actually find the damn movie.
You have to point out, sorry, really quickly, because this isn't going to fit anywhere else.
And so I saw this movie before Caleb. I saw it on Saturday.
And, you know, I just let him know quickly what I thought.
And I told him that, you know, hey, there's there's only a mid credit scene. There's no end credit scene.
But the ending of the movie, I I honestly squealed a little bit.
And I really hope that no one, you know, heard me.
I was sitting next to me in the movie theater because, yeah, I'll fully admit when I saw the outline of the bow of Kate Bishop's bow.
And, you know, you see her enter. Yeah, I freaking lost my shit because I'm so excited to have Kate Bishop back in the MCU.
And the way that the frickin scene plays out, that it's literally like a Kamala's iteration of Nick Fury's
recruitment from Iron Man for Tony Stark is absolutely fantastic.
Dude, she tried so hard to play it cool and just could not do it.
It's it's it's screams Kamala. It's it's it's too perfect.
Yeah. If if I genuinely hope that they kind of make Kamala the leader.
I hope so, too. I know that in previous Young Avengers, it's always it's usually been Kate Bishop.
But honestly, if it's Kamala, it's OK. I'm OK with that.
The fact that, you know, Kate Bishop is her first recruitment makes complete sense.
And so maybe like they could could you see them leading the team together?
Or do you think that it's just going to be strictly Kamala or would you just want strictly Kamala leading it?
OK, so this is how I see it playing out.
I think she's going to go and recruit Kate.
I think she's going to recruit Cassie.
And I think Cassie and Kate are going to have a conflict.
Between the two, maybe like each of them thinks that they're leading the team when like it's just going to be like
known that they listen to Kamala. OK.
I think Kamala is going to be the like not super direct team lead.
OK, I like it. And then maybe there's like a power struggle between Cassie and Hawke and Kate Bishop,
because I do feel like there's something there.
Like there's there's a dynamic between those two that I feel could be played on.
And yeah, I'm excited to see what they what they do.
Yeah, same same here.
I do hope that they bring back Catherine Newton to play Cassie, because I thought she did a good job.
Yeah. If I mean, if they cast anyone else, then I'm like, maybe like it could just be
like maybe Kate and but.
I have a feeling it's going to be like put on Kamala. Yeah.
Unless they find like a Captain America equivalent, but I don't see that happening.
Yeah, I don't either.
At least not to not to the extent of like team lead, because I know that there's a there's a kid from
Falcon and the Winter Soldier that plays a character called Patriot.
Yeah, I heard about that.
But I don't know if he's going to end up taking like a leadership role.
I think he's going to be like that one man army kind of situation like the rogue.
OK. I think I think he's going to be like that.
I think he's going to be like the Winter Soldier equivalent.
He's not he's not really playing for for the team.
He's out to get the mission done like that kind of bullshit.
OK. All right.
But yeah, anyway, so yeah, getting into writing here, the
the dialogue here was really good, too.
For
their
everything, every line that came out of Kamala's mouth was it was comedy gold.
Frickin what I laughed a little too hard when she she looks out the window.
Oh, Captain, my captain.
Oh, my, oh, my good lord.
And Monica's reaction just just sold it so well.
It was so perfect that when they're on the the singing planet and Monica turns to Kamala, she's like, how
about how many ideas are you thinking right now for a Captain Marvel fan fiction?
Her
the dialogue here was great.
I love like the different things that they touched upon.
And something that I wish that they would have dived in even a little deeper is when they were evacuating the Skrull
sanctuary.
I agree, because, you know, the fact that they weren't able to, you know, take them all they had they had to
leave a lot of people behind.
I think they kind of gloss over that.
They a little bit.
They lost a lot of people.
You think that they'd mourn a little more.
I personally feel like they should have restructured the
the elements like I think that they should have put the singing one first.
Excuse me.
Like the water world first because of how goofy it was and then dive into the
the air situation second with in terms of like the Skrull because the Skrull deal like
like the Skrull death toll, I feel really did a number on Kamala and they could have taken that time to really like
make Kamala question her.
Just question her life about like being such a Captain Marvel fan girl.
Yeah, I agree.
So I don't think they they took advantage of that because it was like as soon as the Skrull left, they were like she was back on Team Marvel.
Yeah, I feel like that really should have made her question things.
Another there was maybe maybe it's just me.
Just because it was so brief.
When Monica and Carol have their moment where they actually, you know, like basically kind of I felt it was just kind of they forgave each other.
Monica forgave Carol.
It just felt so brief that I'm just like, OK, so are you guys OK again or or not?
Because it literally is just Monica, it's Carol explaining why she left, why she never came back and Monica being like, that's why you did.
That's why you didn't come back. That's not how families work, Carol.
That's not that's not what you do.
And she's like, oh, OK, all right.
And then that's it. That it really didn't feel like the for how much.
I felt how much of a grudge that Monica held towards Carol, which you know what?
Understandable. It kind of felt a little rushed with her or how she just forgave her.
I mean, maybe the fact that she was able to see that, you know, Carol and her mom actually did connect during the blip.
They were actually together. You know, they actually did meet up.
They talked to each other during those five years.
I don't know, maybe that could have pushed her to forgive her, make her for make her.
I don't know where I was going with that.
Helped with the forgiveness process.
There we go. Thank you.
But just I don't know. It felt like super it felt super rushed, in my opinion.
I agree. I don't think they if this movie suffers from anything, it's addressing important issues.
Yeah. And like, don't get me wrong.
Like the I mean, this movie is only like an hour and 45 minutes short as MCU movie.
And, you know, for the most part, it moves at a pretty brisk pace and it and it moves at a good pace.
It it bounces from point A to point B. And, you know, it makes sense.
But it's moments like that. I'm just like, OK, you know what?
I think you could have benefited if this was actually a two hour Marvel movie, like moments like that you could have actually expanded on.
You could have put more heart into it and just I feel it would have made better for not only better scenes, but also better character moments.
I agree.
That's probably why I'm going to be giving this lower than the writing or than the story.
That's fair.
I'm probably going to be around like an eighty four with writing, and it's just because of those issues that they could have touched upon, but really didn't.
And it's just kind of they glossed over. And so it made the writing feel a bit unimportant.
Yeah, a lot because a lot of it was like jokes. I wish most of the jokes, if not all of them landed pretty well.
This is one of the funniest Marvel movies I've ever seen.
Yeah. And like I said, the frickin flurkin eating people thing, I was rolling.
Yeah, she was great.
Yeah.
But yeah, I think it was just slightly weaker.
Yeah.
I mean, I was going to be like a point higher than you, but like I grew with all your points and that Monica and Carol thing just really drags it down for me. So I'm going to match you again.
Eighty four.
All right. Moving on over to acting to discuss this cast, we have
Brie Larson, who played Captain Marvel. We have Tayona Paris, who played Monica Rambeau.
We have Eman Vellani, who played Kamala Khan, also known as Ms. Marvel.
We have Zawai Ashton, who played Darben.
And then we had Samuel L. Jackson, who played Nick Fury.
And I feel like those were the more important.
Yeah. I mean, you do get a decent amount of time with Kamala's family, but I feel that this is like the main cast, these five.
Yeah. So how would you structure your your top three?
So top three, number three, I'm going to give to Tayona Paris, played Monica Rambeau.
Absolutely fantastic. I'll fully admit I didn't love her in WandaVision.
Maybe just because she didn't really. I mean, she got some good character development, but just I don't know, for some reason, I just didn't love her character.
I have to rewatch it.
Wait, what did you say? I feel I feel like I need to rewatch WandaVision because I feel like I gave her a hard time, but she's grown on me.
And so I'm like, you know, that's fair, because, yeah, I absolutely loved her in this movie.
She was fantastic. I loved the character, the character of Monica in this one.
She killed it. Her interactions that she has with Carol Danvers, Captain Marvel, whatever, are really good.
Their grudge again, or her grudge with her, because Carol doesn't hold a grudge towards her.
I feel that for the most part, even though what we pointed out, it does play out decently, even though it seems rushed towards the end.
But yeah, no, she was fantastic. She played off so well with Brie Larson and Eman Vellani.
Just have great, great, great job. Loved her.
Number two, I'm going to give to Brie Larson.
She was once again great as Captain Marvel slash Carol Danvers.
I've loved her since the first Captain Marvel. I've never understood the hate for her.
I think she does a great job at adapting the character.
I've never read a Captain Marvel comic in my life, but I think she does a fantastic job as this character.
I love her in this role and the fact that I feel that despite especially the hate that she's gotten over the years,
which I'm honestly amazed that she's come back after they said the hate that she's got because the hate's been not warranted, in my opinion.
Not even a little bit, dude. Like it's such bullshit.
The reasoning that people don't like her is just ridiculous.
Right. And so kudos to her for being willing to come back and play this character.
And this is the best, best that she's ever played this character.
The heart is there, the humor is there, especially the humanity of Captain Marvel is there.
I love it so much. This is the best that we've seen of this character.
And honestly, I hope that we get to see more of Captain Marvel in the future.
And I really hope that Brie Larson does come back because I love her so much in this role.
But number one, I have to give to Iman Valani. She steals every single scene that she is in.
I know a lot of people didn't watch Miss Marvel on Disney+, unfortunately, which if you guys didn't, you are missing out.
It's a really, really good show. And Iman Valani, she's amazing in that show, but I feel she's even better in this movie.
She truly understands this character inside and out. She clearly is a Marvel fan, a fanboy, fan girl, however you want to say it.
She truly loves these characters, this franchise, the MCU as a whole. She loves this stuff. She loves doing this.
And just every joke she nails, every line, whether it's like so a joke, comedic, or if it needs to be heartfelt, she just nails every single thing that is thrown her way.
And the fact that this is her first active performance as Kamala Khan slash Miss Marvel is a testament to how great she is of an actress already.
Yeah, she's absolutely fantastic. I can't wait to see more of her in the future. So number one, and that's my top three.
Dude, I am actually right there with you on the top three. Same order and everything. I loved Iman Valani in this role.
And yeah, zero complaints about her performance. She was fantastic. And I hope that she's like the new staple in the MCU.
I hope so, too, because I mean, my first introduction to the character Miss Marvel was in Marvel's The Avengers. And she was all right in that. She wasn't my favorite.
This is my favorite iteration of Miss Marvel. Iman Valani kills, like I said, she kills it as this character. She has made me fall in love with this character and just, God, she's amazing.
Yeah, I can't wait to see what they what they do with her in the in the future. Sam. So where are you sitting with your acting score?
Not a lot of people like brought it down for me.
Just I feel that even though you know it's more it's not the Nick Fury that we necessarily are used to. I still feel Samuel Jackson does a great job.
Kamala Khan's family, once again, fantastic, especially her mom. God, I love her mom. Oh, my gosh. Dude, her mom's fantastic. Right.
She was like she's great in the show. She's even greater in this movie. Same thing with her dad.
And I actually liked her brother more and more in this than I did in the show. Dude, I did, too. Yeah, such a dick in the show.
In this one, he actually, you know, like he actually like somewhat shows compassion towards his sister.
But you know what? I appreciate. I feel that the how what's her name that plays Darbin?
Zaway. Yeah, Zaway. I feel that the way that she plays her is good. It's a little bland. But I know she she needed a little bit more personality.
Yeah. Yeah, she did. Her and her her her henchman, the guy, her right hand man. They were an odd duo.
Yeah. Frick it. Someone I forget who pointed out when they reviewed this, they straight up said, you know, her army looks like badass with their costumes and everything.
And then her right hand man is a frickin guy with a man bun. Dude, no joke.
I'm like, I feel like they could have frickin dressed her up a little bit. I think they could have gone like full blown.
Like Cree warrior with her. I can agree with that.
And I think that would have been frickin sick. Like I would have actually liked for her to like after she brings air to Holla, I would have then like for her to take on the the role of
a accuser like as yes. I think that would have worked a little bit better.
And then just given her a better look, because like Ronan, he looked frickin dope. Yeah.
I think that I think they could have gotten way more creative with how she looked like. I think the dress or the gown looking thing did not absolutely nothing for her other than make her look like some
like some priest.
That's that's the perfect way to explain it. So I would have preferred them to go somewhere more of like the armor route.
Like, I don't even know, like, I don't know exactly what, but I think they just needed something to get like to give her an iconic look like and like, excuse you, Marvel, you have a vast collection of people to like
pull like images from. Yeah.
Like, how do you drop the ball this hard? Seriously.
Like, and what sucks, too, is that she was a good villain.
She was like,
they dropped the ball, they dropped the ball, and I could come up with like a bunch of different alternate designs that they could have gone with that would have worked out better than this.
Also, probably, I probably would have made her blue.
All right, fair enough.
I like it.
She brings me down a little bit as well as, you know, her, her right hand man.
So like person, he was weird. He didn't play bad guy all that well, but I mean,
I know that they weren't supposed to be, but he wasn't matching her energy. Yeah, it felt weird.
Yeah.
So I'd say with those two bringing it down a little bit,
I probably say I'm at a,
I'll say I'm at a 90.
I am personally sitting around like an 88.
That's fair.
All right, next up, we got a character development.
I'm going to assume that we both did it on Captain Marvel. Yes.
Okay. This is where the movie suffers quite a bit.
That's fair.
I mean, I don't know. I don't know how the comics are for Captain Marvel.
So I don't know how far you can take her as a character.
Like in your opinion, like where do you think they could have improved with her character development and actually like
like taking her places to where she felt like a changed person towards,
towards the end, because I mean, when she's sitting in that plane with Kamala,
she still feels like the same Carol, which is fine. It's nothing wrong with that.
It's just you don't really, you don't really get a lot of character development.
You don't, there's no, you don't lose any growth.
Like she's still the same Carol Danvers, but you don't really see her grow into anything better, I guess.
Yeah. I think that's, that's my main issue is like she didn't end up going anywhere.
She was consistent throughout.
So I thought initially when they started calling her like Annihilator and that we got that backstory,
I thought that there was going to be some sort of like secret hidden rage that we haven't seen.
Yeah, we heard about this side of her, the Annihilator, and I would have liked for her to fully almost embrace that.
That's fair. I personally wouldn't have, I would have done like kind of a major whiplash in terms of like the opening,
because where we get like the initial opening, where we get the like the fun, happy, go lucky Kamala
talking about how her and Captain Marvel are twinsies and all that.
I would have liked to follow or to before that show the the Annihilator at work.
Yeah, that that would have been really cool. Yeah, that would have been a really good.
Wow, words, they're hard. That would have been a really good scene for Carol or whatever you want to say.
I would have personally. Like this is this is how I would have handled shit.
The opening is going to be like or would be like sitting in like a Hala market, right?
And then. Like often, like the distance they see like this bright, shimmery light,
and then it's just going to come in like basically do exactly what we saw, where it's going to come like flying
and everyone's going to be like, oh, my gosh, look, and then just boom right into the frickin.
This building. And what not.
So I think that there's going to I would have liked to see a lot more like chaos and destruction
and then see her go like just rampage through the the whole home world,
go to the artificial intelligence and destroy or the supreme intelligence and destroy it and all this other crazy stuff.
And then I would have liked to see just the chaos that comes from that, where they're destroying all the natural resources.
The seas have dried up. The sun has been extinguished.
The air is barely I would have liked to see all that.
And then. Like, while Captain Marvel's like flying off and.
I don't even know.
Like, I would have liked to see how all this came to be, because it was just it was very much like just a surprise.
Like, oh, what the hell? Like, Hall is dying.
Like last time we saw it, it was like a thriving civilization.
But so I would have liked to see how it came to be in ruins.
I would have liked to get more of a first person's perspective of someone experiencing Captain Marvel's reign of terror.
Yeah, that would have been cool.
And then. Have her like go back and.
And like kind of deal with all that, the ramifications.
And I think that would have been a good time to give that introduction to Darben. Yeah.
Because this it was just like, OK, have we have we seen you before?
Like, we haven't, have we? Not that I know of.
That's what I thought. But I was just like, I am very unsure.
Like, I I thought like, I don't remember any of this shit from the movie.
Yeah, because that's what I thought they were doing, that they were just playing like a different perspective of something that they showed us in Captain Marvel.
That's what I thought, too. But I was like, no way.
Like, I thought the Supreme Intelligence was was the Supreme Intelligence destroyed?
I thought they they just beat or she just beat them, the Supreme Intelligence.
Or like over overpowered it somehow. I don't know. I'm questioning it.
So like whatever they did, I think that they could have restructured it way different.
I think this this would have benefited very greatly with an additional 15, 20 minutes.
Agreed. But yeah, so what we ended up getting was no character development.
Yeah. Like no one really changed or grew from who they were at the beginning.
It's true. It's very true. So I'm personally
I'm sitting at like solid.
I'm thinking 70, but I actually might. I think I might be lower.
Really? Yeah, because there was no growth. There was no
she just like even at the end, like she she was flying like past Hala.
They were all looking at her. She went and reignited the sun.
And then we just get like, oh, a quick shot of Hala like having a rising sun again.
And then nothing. Yeah. Like nothing came from it.
And I think that bothered me more than anything.
I'm sitting at 68. I can't give it a 70 and good conscience.
I think I am going to be I think I got to give it a 70.
Frickin bucks.
All right. Next up, we got a fax.
These weren't half bad.
Yeah. I mean, compared to recent, you know, Marvel movies, definitely better than some,
which I find it interesting that they had more.
It's clear that they had more time with these effects than they did with quantum mania
because they pushed this because they pushed. What was it?
So they pushed this movie back. They pushed quantum mania up
when quantum mania wasn't even close to having its effects ready to go.
Yeah. And there were still some rubbery shit happening.
That's fair. But I feel for the most part, like when they use their powers,
it still looked really good with the with the VFX, the flying, I feel for the most part, looked really good.
I mean, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, it's nothing.
Like I said, Marvel has definitely struggled over the years with with their special effects.
We've had some winners and we've had some losers.
I'll put this in like the middle.
It's it's you know, it's nothing great, but it's no ending fight.
Black Panther bad. I will give you that.
But yeah, when she so when she was on that water planet and like
flying through the different ships and stuff and Kamala did the whole Oh, Captain, my captain stuff,
that is the scene in particular that I'm thinking of where it felt very rubbery.
OK, that's fair. I mean, she stops to do like the heroic like action pose.
And I'm like, that doesn't quite look like Captain Marvel to me.
That looks like a DJ rendering.
Yeah, so they had they had a few of those moments.
So I. I might be like an eighty two with the effects.
I'm going to be slightly above an eighty four.
All right. Next up, we got music.
It's all right. Yeah, it is. It was OK.
I swear there's a frickin pop, not a pop song, but there's a song that plays in this.
And I can't remember what song it is.
The one I'm recalling is memory from cats that you know what?
That was great. Yeah. But I it's like the song that plays in the trailer.
I swear that it's also in the movie, but I can't remember what scene it's.
What's the name of the song? One second.
Come on, Spotify, hurry up.
Where the hell is it?
Yeah, beats the hell out of me. Sorry, I'm.
It's here somewhere. OK, maybe I don't.
Damn. OK, OK. I can't remember it because it's not showing on my playlist.
And I thought it did. Oh, intergalactic. There it is.
That's the name. OK. By the Beastie Boys. Right.
So like there was that which, you know, that was cool.
I was barely played, though, was only played for like a couple seconds.
Like, yeah, super fast.
There was that the frickin memory from cats that was frickin great.
That's definitely the standout when it comes to the soundtrack. Yeah.
But I think everything else, like, you know, it made sense if it flowed with the movie.
You know, it's a classic, you know, Marvel soundtrack.
It's I mean, it's no like Avengers soundtrack. You know, you don't get that classic like
you get no you don't get anything like the Avengers seeing that like shit goes frickin hard.
Yeah. But I feel when it comes to, you know, just just Marvel movies, soundtracks, not that it's not bad.
Yes, not at all.
Personally, I think I'm sitting around if we did half points, I'd probably be like a seven point four.
I'm like not quite at seven and a half.
So I could give you an eight if you really wanted to.
I'm honestly at a seven, personally. OK. Yeah.
So that exactly where I'm at.
Yeah. It doesn't quite feel like it's earned an eight.
Yeah. It's walking that line.
It is walking a real fine line. Yes.
It's just not there yet. Agreed.
Yeah. All right. Next up, moving on to costumes.
We had some frickin good shit with this one. We did.
When they. Yes, I remember I was not the biggest like fan of them changing her costume when they first showed it.
But, you know, you still get the original costume in the movie.
And when they go on the same planet and the the king of the planet basically gives them their their new outfits.
I've I freaking loved it. I think it looks fantastic on Kamala.
Like I it sucks that she doesn't wear a mask anymore.
But you know what? It makes sense.
Well, this is just because it was space mission. Yeah. OK.
I'm hoping that like down the line she does.
That's fair. And honestly, it just matched better with Monica and Carol.
So it worked. Made more sense. Yeah. Frickin loved hers.
Hers was great. Monica's like it.
So she at the beginning, she's wearing the was. Oh, my God.
What's the what's the the name of the sword sword?
She's wearing like a black and white like not space suit.
But those sort of uniforms were bitching.
They were. And I like that her final outfit is basically just a take on that.
It's the same colors. But then you have like the more like.
Like the more I guess like the Marvel's logo, is that what's in between her chest or like, what would you call that emblem?
I would almost I would dare say that almost looks like Carol's original.
OK. Well, I dig. Yeah, I think it too. Yeah.
See, I like the fact that they just took those colors and just ran with it and updated it.
Frickin look badass. I love to. It's simplistic, but it looked great.
And then I I liked how she like they had the homage to her original suit where it had like the weird cape flap things.
And then she's just like, is this too much? This is too much.
And it ripped them off. That was great.
And then, yeah, Captain Marvel's was fantastic.
I don't think that there has been one Captain Marvel costume in the MCU that I did not like.
I think they've they've all been great. And this one especially fricking knocked it out of the park.
I am actually going to disagree with you on that. OK.
I so OK, the design. Love it. OK. Love it. Love it. Love it.
I wish that they would have used brighter colors. OK, that's fair.
Where is I'm from? Like this feels very dark.
Yeah, especially for like it's just in contrast to Kamala and Monica's outfit,
because it like there's this very bright and vibrant and then hers, it's just like it's just dark.
Even like really, yeah, yeah.
Which I'm all I'm all for. Like if you want to go muted, go muted. But it's like mute everyone then. Yeah.
But these these other colors, they're so vibrant, like it's it's it kind of makes her kind of disappear into the background.
Yeah, I agree. But I mean, overall, like the design of the suit was was awesome.
So, I mean, I'm all for that. And yeah, Kamala's suit definitely grew on me.
And the reasoning behind her getting a new suit made sense to me.
Yeah, I am kind of hoping that later down the line, they revert back to her original design.
That's fair. But yeah, I very much enjoy these other outfits.
And. Gosh, I think I don't know if this correct 10 for me, though.
Same. I'm I'm at a nine personally.
That's actually exactly where I was. Hell, yeah.
Because, I mean, I got I mean, honestly, like, even though I really like her final outfit with Captain Marvel, I got to agree with you.
It doesn't really fit well with the other two other two outfits because it's so muted.
Yeah, I almost I almost kind of want to go in and like Photoshop like this outfit of hers just to see what it would look like brighter.
Because I feel like my opinions might change if it does look like shit.
Fair enough. But I also don't think that it it would like something on there needs to be brighter.
Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.
But it's just like, how in the world do you go like, dude, the frickin dress that she was into during the dance with the prince that was freaking stunning.
Yeah, that was super cool. That was awesome.
Yeah, I love that that dress like way, way more than I probably should have because I was just like, damn, and not because of her because of the damn suit or the dress.
Okay, well, I mean, it's kind of it's kind of both. But still pretty loved it. I love I made it weird.
I just I know I made it weird. Just a little bit.
But yeah, the suits are the dress was frickin fantastic. So I'm like, why didn't you just go with those colors?
Yeah, to show like they they they proved that it looked good.
Like that the bright vibrancy and it's like it's the same with her other suit like she was wearing something that was like her.
I wouldn't say oh gee, but just the the the cut off sleeves suit like that looked good.
Yeah, it did. And it was a lot more vibrant than this was. Yeah.
Like you don't have to go like crazy, like super bright blue or bright red or even bright gold, but just brighten it up a little bit.
I mean, come on. No, I agree. Yeah.
Um, yeah. All right. Last up, we got personal score.
All right. Who's going first?
Uh, let's hear yours first.
OK. Um, overall, I think this was a really good sequel, better than the first.
I feel that the dynamic between Carol, Monica and Kamala was fantastic.
These three ladies killed it with their chemistry.
One of the funniest Marvel movies I've seen in quite a long time.
Just had the story was good. The characters were good. The acting was good.
If anything brings it down and I it's not the actress's fault. It's just the way that she's portrayed. It's the villain.
I do wish that Darbin could have gotten more, not more to do, but just I guess more.
What's the word?
Shit, I don't know what word I'm going for.
I just want to more from the villain, but not a bad villain, not a bad villain.
Darbin is one of the better villains I've seen from the MCU.
And and and and and the and the last little while she she was she was good.
I think the issue with her is like she was a well-written antagonist with no personality.
Yeah, there we go. I like that. Yeah.
I had a good time. Oh, shit. Frickin rip my headphones out.
Bug, I'm assuming. Yeah. OK.
Yeah, had a really good time with the sequel.
Hope to see these three ladies in the MCU soon once again.
So, yeah. So I think personally, I am going to be at an eighty nine.
There's going to be a wild difference between us.
I did very much have a good time watching this film, but I'm with you.
The villain was just very much on the bland side.
It took me a minute to recognize how well her motivations were written,
because I was just like, I could care less about this villain.
But I was like, OK, like really giving it some thought.
She was decent. Well, like the motivations were solid.
And that's it's hard to complain about.
But yeah, it's just the personality wasn't there.
Like, it brings me back to like thinking about Loki.
Loki was. Just more like he was after something.
He was after a throne, after just growing up in his brother's shadow.
And but in the end, he was still he was a charming character.
So it's like it's super hard to like.
Complain about him, even though I feel his motivations were maybe even weaker than
Darben's motivations, but she was just she didn't have the personality to back up the well,
the writing about her, and I think that's that's really unfortunate.
But I did very much love the.
The the leading ladies here, I thought they did an incredible job.
I found them really fun to to watch.
But I don't.
I see myself re exploring this, not just for the chemistry between them and not necessarily because this is a good.
I would say it's not good. It's a it's a very average superhero film.
That's fair. Yeah. So I'm personally sitting in like an 83.
Damn. Yeah, that really is a huge difference. Man, was I too nice?
I wouldn't say you were too nice. I do think like especially like talking it out.
I do think you like this film a lot more than I did.
I'll just say everything that you said about the villain, like, I don't know if I really want to be.
You know what? I know I always do this.
Bitch, I don't care.
All right. I'm dropping it just a little bit.
I'll be an eighty seven.
I'm sorry. OK, you are easily persuaded.
All righty. Well, with that going through our scores, starting off with story, we started off at a very sturdy eighty six.
We took a little bit of a dive sitting at an eighty four when it came to writing.
Eighty nine got a pretty decent bump jumping up to an eighty nine.
The character development was the absolute weak point of this film and ended up being at a sixty nine.
Effects came and did a decent bump sitting at an eighty three.
Music ended up scoring a seven out of ten.
The costumes ended up scoring a nine out of ten.
Our personal score with Rose's change ended up averaging to an eighty five.
Damn, brood. Rose's change.
God, rude much.
Yeah. So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for the Marvels has come out to a.
A B. OK.
Yeah, it's a it barely got to be.
Ah, damn it. So our cut off for a B is eighty three, right?
Yeah. This got an eighty three point two five.
Damn. OK. Yeah, that barely made it.
So it was a quarter of a percentage away from being in the B minus range.
Holy shit. So, yeah, definitely one of our.
Our weaker of like MCU films. Yeah.
Um, here, let me pull up the bees real quick.
Geez, I do. I do have to pull up the B minus ones to do the five above five below.
Damn. All right.
So out of all of our B movies, which have been. Forty one.
This is sitting at thirty nine. OK, damn. Wow.
Yeah. So. Sitting in an eighty three point two five, this puts it on the exact same level as Shazam.
The first Shazam, the first Shazam.
I'm OK with that. I am very much OK with that.
I absolutely agree. Yeah. OK. I like that.
Oh, how the hell did that happen?
It ended up below Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum mania.
Oh, that's bullshit. I demand a recount.
Do it. I bet you I bet you it's due to character development.
Yeah, that's fair.
Do you think I told myself like after I got out of my showing, I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to make sure that this ends up above quantum mania.
Damn it. I failed. Yep. It did not. Darn.
All right. Let's see. It is also sitting below Bill and Ted face the music.
OK. OK, but that is it is below Toy Story four.
All right. And it is below James Gunn's The Suicide Squad.
I can agree with that. Yeah, definitely.
Going the opposite direction, it is above Jumanji.
Welcome to the jungle. Wow. OK.
It is above the greatest showman.
OK. It is above Gran Turismo.
Fair. It's above Scream 6.
OK, I can I can I can agree with that.
And it is above Chippendale Rescue Rangers.
Ah, that's that's a little hard for me because you know how much I love that movie.
Yeah, that I definitely do. All right.
Here, let me. OK.
So just for for shits and giggles.
I am putting this.
I just need to apply a filter real quick.
All right. So our official so our new official MCU ranking.
This is.
This is an interesting spot.
I don't know. So it's.
Out of just out of the ones that we have scored, it's our third lowest.
Really? OK. Yeah.
So in like building our way up, it's below Ant-Man and the War or it's above Ant-Man and the Wasp.
The first one. OK. Not the first one, the second one.
OK. It's above Love and Thunder.
OK, good. Thank God. And then it's the Marvels.
OK. Then quantum mania.
OK. Then Ragnarok.
Then Age of Ultron.
Then Homecoming. Then Captain Marvel.
Really? We're in Captain Marvel. That high. Wow.
Yeah. So and it just goes up from there.
But yeah, so that's just out of the ones that we've we've scored.
So we still haven't scored phase one.
I don't think two either. No, I don't think so.
The only movie we've scored in phase two is Guardians Vol. 2.
Yep. Oh, and Age of Ultron. And Age of Ultron, yeah.
Wait. OK. Well, OK. There's some.
So phase two, there's some there's some that we have scored, but phase one is completely unscored.
Other than the first Avengers.
Yes. Yeah. So we need to get on that.
That's something we've been dragging our feet on. We need a frickin.
We need an official MCU ranking.
Oh, my bad. Guardians 2 is in phase three. That's not phase two.
OK, cool. But yeah, we do have
the Avengers is scored. That's from one.
And then Age of Ultron is from phase two. OK.
So, yeah, I mean, we don't have that many. It's just
from its Iron Man to Doctor Strange. Yeah.
OK. So, yeah, that's not too bad. Yeah.
We just got to get this off. Yeah, we just need to do it.
Yeah. It's got to try to meet up an extra day during the week.
Yeah. Yeah, let's do it.
Deal. All right. But yeah, that's that's where it's sitting.
And I think it has a pretty decent home. I agree.
I'm sad that it didn't be quantum mania, but you know what?
I am very bummed that it didn't be quantum mania, but I mean, quantum mania.
It's hard to argue. You did have a better character development.
Yeah. Yeah, you're not wrong.
I want to just compare, make like just to see if.
And man and.
Yeah, OK, so we gave.
Yeah, that's absolutely what it was.
So quantum mania had lower story, lower writing, lower acting,
a higher character development.
The effects were pretty much the same.
Music and costumes were the same, but I think our personal score was higher.
For quantum mania. What?
Yeah. What the hell is wrong with us?
It's the hell out of me.
I'm genuinely curious what the hell is wrong with us.
I bet you that's my fault, because I actually kind of enjoyed quantum mania.
I mean, I did, too, but I definitely enjoyed this one a lot more.
But anyway, so that is where we are, where we're sitting.
So unless you have anything else you would like to add.
No, I got nothing. Yeah.
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