What is up bros?
I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
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This week on the podcast we have nothing in 4k spotlight because we are recording this
a couple weeks in advance.
But I mean, we did look, we wouldn't have had anything like decent to talk about anyway.
So damn, Caleb throwing shade at Gran Turismo.
Just just got to throw that out there.
Yeah, just so if you get a slight amount of shade, if you guys do want to pick that up,
it comes out when this episode is released.
It comes out the next day that Tuesday on 4k blu ray.
And there are two steel books, one at Best Buy, one at Walmart.
There you go.
4k spotlight done.
Man, you didn't even let me put up the banner.
Sorry, my bad.
Lame.
Oops.
Anyway, we're skipping it this week.
Yeah, we got nothing in through the wall.
So we will be getting straight into this week's headliner where we will be breaking down chicken
run.
Caleb's favorite animated movie.
There's a pot.
Oh, God, I'm scared, dude.
I feel we're going to get into like some heated debate for how much I love Ardman.
And I don't know how much you love Ardman.
I guess we'll find out.
Yeah, we will definitely be finding out.
So without further ado, let's say we get right on into this.
Let's do it.
All righty.
Like we said, we're getting straight into this week's headliner.
We do not have a question of the week because we are bad planners.
Yes, we are.
But you know what?
That's OK for the circumstances that Caleb is under.
It's completely understandable.
Yeah, we'll make it work.
We will make it work.
Absolutely.
Anyway, so getting right on into this week's breakdown.
Like we said, we will be breaking down chicken run.
So if you are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different
categories that we individually score to come to a final Albrows letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development.
With this being an animated feature, instead of effects, we will be breaking down the animation.
We will be talking about the music.
And then instead of costumes, this will be the character design.
And then last, we will be giving it our own personal score.
And all that magic will add up and give us our final Albrows letter grade.
So without further ado, is everyone's favorite segment other than roses that we like to call
reading with Rose.
You're such an ass.
You love it.
Don't lie.
No, I do.
I have a shirt to prove it.
But you got a reading with Ro shirt.
Oh, yeah.
You gave it to me.
I freak.
I know.
I was like, how'd you swing that?
I'm freaking dumb.
Is it sad that so I've only worn it once.
And for the reason that I don't want to damage it because I check, is it weird that I cherish
that shirt?
I mean, we can always get another one.
That's true.
It's I don't know.
I saved the file.
Okay.
I didn't know if you did.
Yeah, I save all the files.
The only thing I've been slacking on lately is I haven't been creating the shirt image.
Like I haven't done that in so long.
Like I'm at this point, it's like I'm afraid to start.
I'm trying to find out like if there's a possible some like magical way that I can do like a
mass export of like individual layers because I have the shirt.
Like I have the shirt designs.
Yeah, I just haven't converted them to be the size that they need to be to put onto
shirts.
Okay.
And there's like a bazillion of them.
So like I said, I'm kind of like hesitant about like converting them all unless there's
some way I can do like a mass export of my layers.
Like I'm probably not going to have a good time with that shit.
Yeah, understandable, man.
That sounds like absolute hell.
That does not sound like a good time.
No, it's not too bad, like hopefully.
Like it's just progressively getting worse.
So it's like it's my own fault at this point.
See, I find it funny.
Caleb will say that about like anytime when, you know, like we'll talk about, you know,
like the edit, what he goes through with like editing and putting the show together and
everything.
And he's like, I was like, damn, man, you know, that's so much work, you know, like
do you need any help?
Is there anything I can do?
But yeah, no, it's not too bad.
I have a feeling that he's hiding something from me.
It's got to be a lot harder than he says it is.
It's actually not like because you have so much work on your plate.
I feel so bad.
I feel like a jackass.
No, it's like.
It would be difficult for both of us to do.
OK.
It's like it's easy just like for.
For me, just because like I can, at least now I can knock it out so quick.
OK, like I can knock everything out.
It's not like it's a long, tenuous process or like it's not difficult in any way.
It just it takes.
Attention that I my deficit order does not want to give.
That's the biggest hurdle.
Like I promise, I'm not trying to make it about me, but like just everything that you
do with this podcast, the many reviews, just everything like just know that your your your
effort does not go unnoticed.
Like I really appreciate it.
Yeah.
Well, I have a good time doing it and it's fun.
Good.
I'm glad.
Yeah, because I have a freaking blast with this.
Yeah, it's a good.
I wouldn't be doing it for almost 300 episodes if that was the case.
Demonstrate like with this episode, we are three away from 300.
Holy shit.
And we need to come up with something fast.
Yeah.
Shit.
Well, we'll brainstorm and come up with something because.
I mean, 300, holy shit.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah, sorry.
So in that case, getting back to Chicken Run, if you have not seen Chicken Run, you have
had like 24 years, 24, just about 24 freaking years.
Oh, my God.
Literally, this is this is Ardman Animations first, like full length feature film.
You've had that freaking long.
They've been around for years before that.
But still, you've had that freaking long.
If you haven't seen Chicken Run, like, come on.
Yeah, it's.
You've had an ample amount of time, so we do not feel bad about spoiling this for you.
So yeah.
So like I said, if you listen beyond this point, anything is spoiled for you.
It is your own damn fault because this is reading with Rose.
So they all die.
They don't actually make it out of the coop.
They would have messed up with that.
Actually, that is probably less messed up than some of the shit that was in this movie.
Dude, dude.
We'll get into that because, yeah, there's like one scene I'm just like, I don't remember
that like they don't show a lot, but I feel for even a kids movie, they show a lot because
I'm just like, I don't remember them being that what's what's the word like that?
What's the goddamn it implying it that much, dude?
Like, like if that if that goes over a kid's head, like I think that that parent needs
to do some explaining.
Because, wow.
But anyway, chicken run.
Here we go.
In the countryside of York York York Yorkshire, a flock of chickens live on an egg farm structured
like a prisoner of war camp.
The farm is run by the cruel Miss Tweety and her submissive husband Mr. Tweety, who kill
any chicken that is no longer able to lay eggs.
Led by the rebellious Ginger, the chickens constantly devise new ways to try to escape
but are always caught.
Mr. Tweety suspects the chickens are organized and plotting resistance, but his wife dismisses
his theories while being frustrated with making minuscule profits.
One night, Ginger witnesses American rooster rocky roads glide over the coop's fences
and crash land.
The chickens put his sprained wing in a cast and hide him from the Tweety's who were promised
a handsome reward by Rocky's owner for his return.
Inspired by Rocky's apparent flying abilities, Ginger begs him to help teach her and the
other chickens to fly so they can escape.
Rocky gives them training lessons.
One evening, a load of equipment is delivered to the farm containing the parts for a chicken
pie machine that Mrs. Tweety has ordered as part of a plan to convert the farm into a
profitable pie making factory.
When the Tweety's increase the chickens food rations and ignore the decline in egg production,
Ginger deduces that the couple's new plan is to fatten the chickens for slaughter.
After Ginger and Rocky get into an argument, Rocky holds a moral boosting dance party during
which it is revealed that his wing is healed.
Ginger insists that he demonstrate flying the next day, but Mr. Tweety finishes assembling
the machine and puts her in for a test run.
Rocky saves Ginger and sabotages the machine, buying them time to warn the chickens and
plan an escape from the farm.
The next day, Ginger finds Rocky is left, leaving behind part of a poster that shows
that he is in fact part of a chicken cannonball act with no ability to fly on his own.
In the midst of her devastation, Ginger is inspired by elderly rooster Fowler's story
of his time in the Royal Air Force to build an aircraft to flee the farm.
The chickens assemble parts for the plane with a deck chair as a takeoff ramp and a
line of Christmas lights to light a runaway as Mr. Tweety fixes the pie making machine.
Mrs. Tweety orders Mr. Tweety to gather all the chickens for the machine, but they subdue
him and finish making their plan.
Their plane, wow.
Fowler later reveals that he was only a mascot for the 644 Squadron, however Ginger persuades
Fowler to pilot their plane.
Meanwhile, Rocky comes across a billboard advertising Mrs. Tweety's chicken pies and
returns to the farm out of guilt for abandoning the chickens.
Mr. Tweety knocks over the chair before being knocked out and an alerted Mrs. Tweety attacks
Ginger as she helps the plane take off.
Mrs. Tweety is subdued by Rocky, who leaves with Ginger by holding onto the lights, which
has been snagged by the departing plane.
Mrs. Tweety follows by climbing up the lights with an axe.
Ginger dodges an axe swipe, which cuts through the line, sending Mrs. Tweety to fly through
the barn window and fall into the safety valve of the pie machine.
The pie machine later on explodes into a ball of gravy due to the gravy pressure being very
high, which interrupts Ginger and Rocky.
Mr. Tweety once again tells her that the chickens were organized, proving he was right the whole
time and who was now fed up with his wife's aggressive, intimidating behavior towards
him pushes the barn door down on top of her.
The chickens celebrate their victory after defeating the Tweety's while Ginger and Rocky
kiss and they fly to an island bird sanctuary where they make their home.
Sometime later, the chickens have settled into their new home and Rocky and Ginger have
started a romantic relationship.
Nick and Fetcher, two rats that have been helping the chickens throughout the film,
decide to set up their own egg farm, but they cannot agree on whether they must use a chicken
or egg to start it, and they decide to go over the conversation again towards the point
that they don't know how they are going to start their own farm.
What we were talking about, I thought they were going to point it out in the story, but
I guess they didn't.
There is one chicken, god damn it, I forgot her name, that it turns out she hasn't laid
eggs for the whole week, and everyone is freaking out, why didn't she tell anyone, we could
have given her some of our eggs.
Mrs. Tweety grabs her, takes her back to their house, takes her to the room, and chops off
her neck, chops off her head.
It is so much, what's the word?
Implied.
Yes, thank you.
It is so implied.
Honestly, if you don't catch on to the signs, how?
Because I just watched this, so we were recording this on October 22nd, and I just watched this
again last night because I hadn't seen it in years, and I don't remember it being implied
that much as a kid.
I knew what was happening, but still, damn, hell, they should have just shown it happening.
At that point, they probably could have gotten away with that.
Her name was Edwina.
Thank you.
I was looking up information specifically about that scene, because I saw it for whatever
reason, it showed up on my TikTok before I watched it.
That scene.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, I know, right?
Frickin' TikTok listening to what I'm watching next week.
That scene, that specific scene popped up, and apparently there were multiple versions
of that.
There was an extended cut of this, and it was right before it went into theaters.
There was a cut where you basically see it all happen.
It's a more shadow on the wall situation.
You see Mrs. Tweedy raise the X, and then it drops down.
That's what you see.
But they cut that right before it got released in the theaters.
Holy shit.
You know, I'll fully admit, yeah, I don't blame them, because imagine being a kid, just
seeing the shadow of the axe coming down, did it show the chicken's head falling on
the floor?
The shadow or no?
I don't believe it did.
I didn't see any.
You just see it go up, and then you see it come down.
You don't see anything flap around or anything like that.
I would have freaking... kids would have freaking lost it if that shit actually happened.
Even if it's just the shadow, you see the chicken's head fall to the floor.
Like damn.
Freaking talk about traumatizing.
So they adjusted that, and then they were comparing another ending that they cut, or
not an ending, like just another scene that they cut from the theatrical cut.
They cut the scene where Mr. Tweedy pushes the wall over.
So that was...
Yeah, because I'm not remembering that yet.
Doesn't it just fall by itself in the actual movie?
Yeah, so in the theatrical version, yes.
There is an extended cut, which it sounds like that's what you saw, where he pushes
it.
Oh, okay.
But dude, this was a dark movie.
Very.
Yeah.
Leave it to Aardman, man.
Leave it to Aardman and DreamWorks.
Dude, this wasn't like...
It eventually got to the point of being fun.
It was somewhat fun throughout, and it was mostly in the humor between characters.
But overarching themes, this was not a bright, happy movie.
No, it's not.
Especially when the chicken pie machine is implied.
There are so many freaking closeups that you get of certain machinery on it, or when Ginger
and Rocky go through the machine and then they discover the sticker.
You get a huge closeup of it with very dramatic music.
So it seems like that...
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
This movie gets freaking dark.
And maybe it's just because I haven't seen it in years, but I honestly forgot how freaking
dark this movie gets.
It is either that or we were just too stupid to realize how dark it was.
When they're basically going through the whole pie making process and they think that they're
finally out, but the thing smashes down on them.
I never thought as a kid, I'm like, oh yeah, no, they're dead, right?
As an adult, I'm like, wait a goddamn minute.
There's no way that they're fully intact anymore after that, right?
No, not even a little bit, bro.
That should press down fully.
That wasn't a slight press.
That thing went firmly down.
Yeah, that was dropping the freaking hammer.
No, no, no, Rocky and Ginger are fine.
They're just like smushed in a cake or in a pie, sorry.
No, you're good.
Yeah.
Oh my, oh my God.
Dude, they freaking, they killed it with this movie.
And like, this is something that as an adult, I have a way better appreciation for.
It's so weird because it's like, was, okay, was Mrs. Tweedy a bitch?
Absolutely.
But you can't help but love her.
Yeah, but it's like in the end, she's just trying to run a business.
Exactly.
She's trying to make a living.
And these shitty chickens.
If it weren't for freaking Ginger, I think if she didn't come along or she wasn't, you
know, born into the coop, I think that the others would have been fine with everything.
It's that freaking Ginger that just just set everything into motion.
Freaking rebel.
I feel stupid, I got a freaking story.
Well, not a story, but just like an idiot moment that I had as a kid and I didn't know
until I was an adult.
I forget the character's name, but there's one character that up until probably like
my early teen years, I straight up thought was a I didn't realize that it was a that
it was a chicken.
It was a girl.
I thought that it was a dude and it was about the nerdy one.
Yeah, Mac.
Yep.
Did you think the same thing?
Dude, I thought the same damn thing.
So yeah, when I found out, it's like, yeah, Jonathan, they're all female.
I'm like, well, now I feel like a dumb ass.
But yeah, OK, I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Yeah, totally thought.
Wait, so wait, was she boy or girl?
Yeah, yeah, Max, a girl.
Max, a girl.
OK.
Yeah, I thought for a long time that that that Mac was a boy, too.
All right.
So cool.
We're on the same page here.
Yeah, that tracks.
But I mean, overall, like having not seen this, I haven't I probably haven't seen Chicken
Run since high school, maybe even.
Yeah, no pros.
No, since high school.
It's been quite a while.
Being able to revisit it, like honestly, it was like I feel when you revisit if when it's
been so long since you've seen a movie that you grew up with as a child, sometimes when
you watch it as an adult, it's not going to be as good as you remember.
Unfortunately, sometimes it is.
It truly is.
But sometimes it's not the masterpiece that you thought.
This is still a great movie.
But I don't know if I consider it like a masterpiece that I thought as a kid.
I still love this movie to death.
It's my second favorite Armin movie.
But just I guess it's not like.
I don't want to shit on this.
Like the story is great.
I don't want to shit on this movie, but it's just not the it's not it's not the masterpiece
that I remember it being.
Yeah, I think that's just my kid brain thinking that, oh, yeah, everything was great.
Dude.
Funny enough.
I am like completely opposite of you.
I I hadn't seen this movie since like maybe pre junior high.
Like it'd been a long time since I've seen this movie.
Like I've seen bits and clips since then, but nothing that's like maybe want to go,
oh, yeah, like I want to sit down and watch Chicken Run.
So this was like a good excuse to watch it through adult eyes.
I have a much better I had a much better time watching this as an adult than I ever did
as watching it as a kid.
OK, I think what ruins it for me a little bit, it's certain characters this time around,
like ones that I I think liked as a kid.
I honestly find annoying now that tracks.
So I think that happens.
Right.
So there's one like honestly, I know he's a main character, but like honestly, I wish
that he wasn't even in the damn movie because I find him annoying as hell now.
Rocky.
Yep.
I I don't like Rocky at all.
I did.
Rocky sucks.
Yeah.
Like he brings the movie down for me now.
If like I get that he you know, he has to be here for the plot.
But honestly, I wish that they would have just been able to figure out the the plane
from the beginning.
And I mean, yeah, this would have been a lot shorter movie.
This would have just been a frickin Armin short.
But we never would have gotten Rocky.
And you know what?
I would have been happy.
Yeah, I think it would have been completely fine had they not included him because I like
I still love every other character just as much as I remember loving them as a kid.
I think I even love Ginger more as an adult after watching this again.
I frickin love Ginger.
He's fantastic.
Yeah.
Ginger was the only character that didn't get on my nerves.
Right.
That's that's fair.
That is completely fair.
Yeah.
So where are you sitting with the story then?
Because this this sounds like you're super conflicted.
Hmm.
I think story.
This kills me.
I think I'm going to be at like an eighty eight.
Eighty eight.
Dude, I thought.
What?
Dude, no.
If it weren't for Rocky, I'd be in the frickin nineties, man.
Holy shit, dude.
I like you made it sound like you were like contemplating like low 80s, possibly getting
into the seven like you made it sound like you were contemplating.
My bad.
Yeah, I am personally around there, too.
I are not eighty eight frickin hell.
No, I'm sitting like around it.
I'm sitting at an eighty one.
Damn, I love this.
It's like I'm not as high as eighty eight, like good hell, like damn, Rose.
Yeah, I thought the story was good.
But I think there's just too much stuff that like.
And it's bothering me.
That's I can't believe how different we are.
Holy shit.
That's funny.
Yeah, I mean, I'm still in the 80s.
It was still a really good score.
It was a well structured story.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah.
But.
I think like, you know what, if I'm being real, I'm sorry.
I'm changing eighty six.
There we go.
I love how we all go.
I know I love how we make like a big deal of like one point.
I actually never mind.
I took myself down like thinking that you're going to drop down like four or five points
and now it's like one or two in your case.
You can actually.
That's it.
It's not going down anymore.
But.
Yeah, I thought it was it was well structured.
It was decent.
Honestly, I don't.
There have to be a really good excuse for me to kind of watch this again.
I don't see myself like revisiting this.
That's fair.
And maybe it's maybe that's the reason why it's been so long since I've seen this movie.
But like looking at.
You know, like like you said earlier, with this being Armin's first full length feature
film and looking, you know, at their like, you know, what came before this, you know,
of course, with the walls and grommet shorts, creature comfort, stuff like that.
And honestly, the story that they were able to come up with for I think this movie is
I think it's not even an hour and a half.
It's like an hour and twenty something minutes for their first feature film.
I think that I'd say they still did a pretty decent job.
I still like just because I'm I'm what's the word?
I like walls and grommet out of everything Armin the most.
And so when it comes to their movies, walls and grommet, the curse of the were rabbit
is my favorite movie of theirs.
It always will be.
But I feel that for their first one, I think Chicken Run does have a decent story.
Yeah, it flows along at a pretty decent at a pretty good pace.
I don't feel there's really any slow moments
except for, you know, any scene that Rocky's in.
But, you know, dude, those things dragged to like, oh, my God.
Oh, man.
Like I was just like, all right, let's freaking go.
I would if honestly, if we if we were to take out everything with Rocky
and just give his screen time to more of Mr. and Mrs. Tweety,
I would have been perfectly fine with that because I love those characters.
Dude, same.
I would have probably been up at like where you're at.
Eighty five, eighty six had they taken Rocky out,
but Rocky Frickin just dive bombed this movie.
It's fair. Yeah.
Yeah. He he freaking destroys it.
Yeah. And not in a good way. Yeah.
Where this movie does kind of shine, though,
moving on over to writing.
Dude, this was a Frickin.
This had some like sneak attack jokes.
It yeah, this movie still holds up with this comedy.
Like I freaking forgot how how funny this movie was.
Yeah, it was hilarious.
Babs was a freaking gem.
She was so freaking funny.
Like I love when she
like after she fainted and she's like, Oh, my life flashed before my eyes.
It was boring.
Oh, dude, I lost it.
I was just like, that's Frickin fantastic.
Yeah, it's oh, God, it's so good.
Frickin my favorite, some of my favorite interactions when it comes to jokes,
of course, are Mr. and Mrs. Tweedy when she's explaining to him the machine.
Clearly implicating it's for chickens.
It's for chicken pies. And he's just like, Oh, what kind of pies come out of it?
She's like Apple. Oh.
You know, Frickin Baz being like, I don't want to be a pie.
I don't like gravy.
OK, first of all, who doesn't like gravy?
Yeah, that's just absurd.
Yeah, but I think that is Frickin hilarious.
Yeah, it was so Frickin funny.
But I think my favorite running joke of Babs, though, is one
when Ginger comes back from solitary confinement, she's like, Oh, Ginger,
back from holiday.
And then when I forget, I already forgot the one that
gets her head cut off.
Cut off.
Shit.
Crap. I had like my little cheat sheet
with the characters and I
Edwina, Edwina.
I forget exactly what she said, but I think like after the whole thing,
doesn't she say like, Oh, do you think she's coming back from holiday
or some shit like that?
I'm just like, damn.
So I forget, forget about that running joke.
Yeah, just yeah, there were a lot, a lot of good jokes in this one.
Yeah, there do.
There were some great ones like, like I said, I like the
Babs was the Frickin like sneak attack
jokester that just like kept getting me on accident.
Yeah, she had the best lines.
What we use all the jokes, she got the best ones.
Yeah, she was really good.
What were the rats names?
Do you remember?
Shit is that.
That's not Fowler, no.
One, so one is Fetcher.
Yeah, the other one is Nick.
I think so.
Yeah, I'm really casting crew or is a Mac.
I don't think it's back is.
Here, it was.
Gosh, this is going to bug me.
Oh, yeah, Nick, it's Nick.
OK, so well, then who's Mac?
Mac was one of the the the
Oh, man, nerd.
Yeah, Mac was the nerd.
Yeah.
This is a hard like Chicken Run has always been one that like
the names don't really stick with me.
Babs did Ginger and Rocky.
Those are like the only names I remember.
Everything else I'm like totally cheating on.
No, I'm the same way.
It's yeah, it's those three.
And then, of course, I'll always remember Mr.
Mrs. Tweedy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, this, I think the writing exceeded the story.
Absolutely.
Yeah, the writing is so good here.
Yeah, this is one where I'd kind of be up where you're at.
Like, I think it's like a pretty decent difference.
Like, I should be willing to put writing at like an eighty seven.
Like, it's fairly high, because like I said, I love sneak attack
jokes.
Yeah.
This movie was just filled with them.
And I think that's something that just Ardman films have going
for them.
Like, that's like my main draw to them is their sneak attack humor.
Dude, seriously.
Like, OK, I know we're talking about Chicken Run, but can we
just talk about how you know, like, you know, like, you know,
how it's incredible the Ardman is able to pull off as many good
jokes as they can get with Gromit, who never says one single
word like the amount of humor that they can get off across
with a dog that doesn't bark, that doesn't talk, that literally
just mimes everything that all of his emotions.
And I freaking love it so much.
Like this.
I'm sorry.
I got just really good.
The scene in a Walsum Gromit, the Curse of the Were Rabbit,
they're in the town hall meeting and they're like asking Auntie Pesto
like, oh, how are you going to get rid of these rabbits?
And Walsus is like, well, with a how are you going to catch the Were
Rabbit?
And he's like with a big trap, of course, and Gromit just slaps
his head like in frustration.
And then when everyone's cheering, he like pulls away.
He's just like, are you freaking kidding me?
Like you guys actually think this will work?
Dude, Gromit's a gem.
He is.
I love Gromit.
But writing for Chicken Ron, dude, I got to match you.
87, absolutely.
Yeah.
All right, moving on over to acting.
We have the cast.
So we have Julia Sawalha.
I hope that's how you pronounce it.
Yeah, who voiced Ginger.
We have Mel Gibson, who voiced Rocky.
Phil Daniels, who voiced Fetcher.
Lynn Ferguson, who voiced Mack.
Tony Hagarth, who voiced Mr. Tweedy.
Jane Horrocks, who voiced Babs.
Miranda Richardson, who voiced Mrs. Tweedy.
Timothy Spall, who voiced Nick.
Amelda Staunton, who voiced Bunty.
Benjamin Whitrow, who voiced Fowler.
All right, so what's your top 10 looking like?
Top 10?
Or not top 10.
Sorry, I saw I was looking at the slides and we have 10 of them.
So I was just stupid ADHD brain cancer.
You're good.
Or look at a number and say something different.
So what's your top three look like?
Number one, not number one.
I'm going to say that one.
Number three, I'm going to give to Jane Horrocks, who played Babs.
Absolutely fantastic.
She killed every joke that she was given.
And honestly, I wish that she was in it more.
She was frickin fantastic.
Dude, agreed.
Number two, I'm going to give to Miranda Richardson, who played Mrs.
Tweedy.
I freaking love her so much.
I'm honestly so happy that she's coming back to play her in the sequel.
Just the frickin shit that she gives her husband treats him like a dumbass.
I feel bad for him, but like.
I'm not saying he deserves it.
You have a major soft spot for the frickin goons.
Yeah, I do.
I really with frickin Cruella and the 101 Dalmatians.
I forget their their name.
Horace and Jasper, Horace and Jasper.
You have a big old soft spot for them.
This is basically Horace and Jasper light.
That's fair.
No, because like honestly, number four, I would definitely give to God who Tony
Hagar, who played Mr. Tweedy, if he would have said a little if he would have had
like a little more to say, I would put him number three in front of Babs.
But I feel that Babs just she she stuck more with me.
Dude, I OK, this is completely off topic.
But it's just something that like looking at his picture.
Doesn't Tony Hagar in this picture kind of look like an older version of Coconut
Head from Nets Declassified.
Why you got to put that in my head?
Or no, no, no, no.
Not not a coconut head.
Oh, shit.
Oh, is it Martin Curly?
Yes, the like fat.
Yeah, the fat fast talking won't shut up on.
Yep. Yeah, that's exactly like, dude.
Like I say, completely off topic.
So sorry about that.
We shouldn't like it's OK if we make that joke, right?
Because he's he unfortunately passed away, but it's still like a direct.
It's like we're not being mean.
Yeah, that's true.
I just OK, just I don't think we're being mean.
No, I don't think so either.
You know, you know, honestly, since you said that, I'm going to flip it just
because I forgot how much I you know.
Yeah, so OK, sorry.
Number four would be Babs, but number three, Tony Hagar, Mr.
Tweedy, number two, Miranda Richardson, Mrs. Tweedy.
But number one course got a gift to Julia Sawalha, Ginger, fantastic.
I still find it freaking bullshit
that Ardman is not bringing her back for Chicken Run 2,
because that I'm not going to get into it, because it honestly,
it freaking pisses me off.
But yeah, she was freaking fantastic in this movie.
I love the character of Ginger.
She truly does a great job as her brings her so much character,
so much, so much life.
And yeah, I freaking love her.
So that's my top three or I guess top four since, you know, three and four switched.
Yeah, I'm in agreements with you.
Julia Sawalha is my number one.
My number two, on the other hand, I'm going to give to Jane Horrocks,
who voiced Babs, she just knew how to hit my funny bone.
And in like a magical way, she so Ginger and Babs were probably that Babs,
like maybe got my nerves once Ginger didn't at all.
So I think but Babs anytime she was talking, dude, I was freaking having a blast.
But and then my number three, I'm going to give to Miranda Richardson,
who voiced Mrs. Tweedy.
She was great.
She was.
She was the worst.
But in like, like you said, like it's hard not to freaking love her and it's like messed up.
You know, what's funny is when you see like the advertisements that they put out
for like not only like when they were, you know, selling eggs,
but when they especially when they introduced the pies and you see her smiling face,
that shit's more creepy than when she like within what she actually looks like in the movie.
I don't know. Yeah, that shit is terrifying.
Dude, nothing scarier than watching a villain smile like or try to give a genuine smile.
Yeah. Oh, she had freaking like serial killer eyes.
She did. She really did.
Yeah, she was terrifying.
Hey, this is going to be a weird comparison, but have you ever watched Futurama?
I have not. Oh, OK.
You're probably not going to get this reference then the only like bad guy.
Like I put that in like some major quotes.
The only bad guy that I feel does a really good job at having like a sweet,
innocent persona is friggin mother from Futurama
because it's like this old lady who's like wearing like a big old like kind of like an old granny suit.
So she looks like she's like. Plump.
OK. And but then she like takes it off and she's like this skinny old hag.
Like, huh. But it's like when she puts the suit on, she looks like super sweet.
But and then she takes it off and she's like, oh, it's such a weird transition.
And I think that's. That's what I think of, like, kind of comparing Mrs. Tweedy's smile.
Like, OK, I don't know what point I was trying to make.
But I think for someone who's trying to have a sweet persona,
a mother from Futurama did it better.
Mrs. Tweedy looked like she was ready to like eat someone.
Straight up. Just fricking. Hello, Clarice.
Like that's that's what the smile said.
Yeah, yeah, agreed.
So where are you sitting with with acting?
Honestly, just for how much I really enjoy this cast,
minus a couple, honestly, really just one person.
Rocky. Yep. Yeah, Rocky.
Well, honestly.
I think I'm going to go 92.
Yeah, I am not even close to that high.
Dude, damn, like I'm being too nice to this.
No, I'm sitting around.
Oh, man.
You might want to kill me, but I'm sitting at like a solid 80.
I think that other than the ones I mentioned, I
the rest of the cast got on my nerves
way more frequently than I was
thinking they were going to do.
Did I hear you got me really rethinking what this movie?
I hear you.
Because you got a point.
Yeah, like Rocky was definitely the one that brought everyone down,
but the rest of the cast, I mean, they didn't do much to bring it up.
Yeah, Babs and Ginger and the Tweedies carried this movie.
The rest of the cast, I was like, OK, let's just fricking move it along.
All right. I'm going to I'm changing.
OK, I'm changing it once again. I'm sorry, guys.
I'm going 85.
Man, you are just the worst.
I'm sorry. OK, apparently I'm being like Ardman blind or some shit like that,
because like I just think everything that they do is a masterpiece,
which it's actually really not like they're all of their movies have problems.
Not walls and grommet walls and grommet is perfection, but
at least you're able to recognize your bias.
Oh, yeah.
I think there's a lot of character growth happening with you right now.
Oh, man. Yeah.
Dude, I remember when I used to talk shit about like stop motion
that and you would like you were ready to rip my head off, too,
because I'm like when it comes to all animation types,
stop motion does not get the love that it deserves.
So to this day, I will agree with you on that.
It fricking irritates me like it sucks that like
like Ardman now is strict, like their last theatrical release was early man.
I don't know if they'll ever see any
theatrical releases again, since Netflix acquired all the rights.
And I doubt that they'll release those in the next few years.
They'll release those in theaters.
Frickin like is barely hanging on.
Their movies really don't make that much back.
So I don't know how much a float like it can even keep going,
which fricking sucks because Coraline is Coraline
might be in like my top five favorite animated films of all time.
Frickin love that movie.
Yeah. It fricking sucks, dude.
Like there is a like
we'll get into it with like the animation.
But like because I have some things to say about like stop motion and and all that.
But next up, we got a character development.
I mean, honestly, I feel that the way that we're introduced to
I'm assuming we're doing this on Ginger.
Yeah, that's who I did it on.
Yeah. Hell no.
This was if this was Rocky, this would be like a fricking like 50 percent.
Even maybe even lower.
Yeah. But no, Ginger, like I like that.
We're kind of just thrown into her story right at the beginning.
You know, literally it opens up with a fricking prison escape.
Like I fricking love that.
So we're thrown into this character that, you know, she wants to get all of
the all of her basically her.
I don't know if they ever relate to them themselves as a family.
But, you know, I'm just going to assume that they're all like a sisterhood, I guess.
That's how I viewed it.
Like, yeah, they seem like they were close enough and they like
they were willing to give up eggs to Edwina.
That's true. That is very true.
So, you know, seeing her, you know, want to make sure that
that not only her, but her sisters can actually get out of
this prison and actually, you know, go and live a good life and seeing her
through throughout, like no matter what's thrown her way, she always has a new plan.
She always looks on the bright side of everything, being like, well, you know,
this didn't work, but, you know, let's try this.
Oh, you know, this this guy, Rocky, even though I fricking hate Rocky,
I think that he can truly help us.
When that doesn't turn out, she's like, OK, that didn't work out,
but we're going to bounce back. We're going to have another plan.
This one is definitely going to work and actually did.
It was it was great.
So I appreciate that she's a character that doesn't
basically doesn't let anything get her down, really.
Yeah, she's like the eternal optimist.
And I love that that gets challenged.
Yes. Yes.
So I feel that the character development
I feel it's pretty good in this movie, honestly.
It is. It's it's solid.
I wouldn't say it's anything like groundbreaking.
That's fair.
Like, I think where Ardman puts
like maybe even 99 percent of their focus is on the animation.
And they killed that.
The characters, the characters, the characters, the characters,
the characters development, like everything else was just kind of like.
On the average side, yeah, and like no, no difference with this,
like they they had a character that had a trait in like, like what I said,
eternal optimism and that got challenged and they were able to like.
Break through that and come out on the other end like greater.
Wasn't anything groundbreaking at the time.
It wasn't like it's not groundbreaking now.
It was decent.
That's fair.
But I'm.
This is one I'm sitting there like.
I'm sitting there like an 80 with this one as well.
I wasn't like blown away by the character development of Ginger, but it was good.
Like slightly above average is where I I put it.
I'm just going to be slightly above you at an 82.
But no, I definitely agree with all your points.
And I will say, though, like I meant to point this out in writing.
It kind of irritates me when or it kind of irritated me when Ardman was brought,
you know, into DreamWorks hands and they really wanted to bring that Brit humor
into, you know, American audiences.
But yet, like, it's not you definitely get some great jokes in this.
But frickin in Walsh and Gromit, the Chris, the where rabbit,
I hate that they actually had to rewrite a lot of the Brit jokes because they felt
that it would just go over American sets and it kind of sucks because I feel that.
British jokes actually are really good.
And I feel that most American audiences can understand them.
But like, so you think it's not necessarily
American audiences that you have to worry about its kids.
That's true. That stuff is just going to go over kids head.
Like, we're not the target audience, Rose.
Yeah, that's true.
At least not anymore.
Like we were at the time.
But I don't know.
I just like from what I've seen in the
because I've watched like videos of like how Jerry Brookheimer, who was the head
of DreamWorks and how his relationship was with Nick Frost and.
Not Nick, not Nick Frost.
Sorry, Nick.
Yeah, sorry, Nick Park and Peter Lord, I'm sorry.
I know I was like Nick Frost from like
World's End. Yeah, Nick Frost.
Sorry, Peter, Peter Lord and Nick Park and just how like, you know, it was it was
that like some jokes that like some sayings that they had to change,
that like this is how you say it in our in our language.
But we had to change it for American audiences like in Wallis and Gromit, the
Crystal Were Rabbit, when Wallace tells Gromit to go check out on his vegetable
farm, he says, oh, how's that prize melon of yours doing when it's not even a melon?
It's a type of squash.
And like when it's smashed at the end, you can tell that it's not a melon.
It's a squash.
So like, you know, there was that the time pressure that DreamWorks had them under
for like Chicken Run, Wallis and Gromit, like really put like a fricking like after
watching that video, like really put like a fricking sour taste in my mouth for
Jerry Brookheimer, because it seemed like they ended on good terms.
But at the same time, I'm just like, he was kind of an asshole to them.
The fricking everything that he put Nick Park and
damn it, Peter Lord through, especially Nick Park, who was the creator of
Wallis and Gromit, I'm sorry, I keep talking about Wallis and Gromit,
but I don't know, just it rubbed me the wrong way, the way that DreamWorks
handled Ardman and
the way that they kind of pushed them to not making as great a quality as they could.
I mean, it was still it was still great.
But I mean, I guess it's kind of good that they ended on terms when they did,
because no offense like flushed away, I feel is definitely not as good as Chicken
Run and Wallis and Gromit. It feels like kind of like it feels like such a step
back for me for Ardman, like there's way too many like potty,
there's like too much potty humor and stuff like that for an Ardman movie.
So it just it didn't work for me that much.
Like I still enjoy it, but it is nowhere near my favorite for Ardman movies.
I don't really know where I was going with this, but I just wanted to.
I just wanted to point out that I just like after the success of Chicken Run,
I don't love how.
How Ardman was treated by Dreamworks,
I appreciate that because of Dreamworks, they were actually able to get a Wallis
and Gromit movie made that is freaking awesome.
I love that so much,
but I wish that they would have been treated better.
Hopefully Netflix is treating them better.
I really, really hope.
Hopefully, I would love to see more original Ardman content.
I would too.
I mean, like the last one, I feel like the last big Ardman one that we got
was Early Man and I enjoyed it for the most part, but just I don't know.
It still felt like kind of I mean, it was classic Ardman,
but it was stuff that I had already seen from them.
Like just it didn't feel that original, I guess.
I mean, it was original.
They had never done anything like that before.
But just I don't know, just it didn't hit the same way as as Chicken Run
and Wallis and Gromit did for me.
Yeah.
I think they just need to dive back into their roots.
Agreed, absolutely agreed and do more of like.
Like Chicken Run and Wallis and Gromit do
do the cheesy, like British humor, like I think now this is something like kids
would get it, especially with like a lot of our like kids shows nowadays.
They're not like always American shows.
Like, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, we got freaking Bluey is the biggest one right now.
That's an Australian show.
Dude, did you hear the freaking
the freaking rip off that
that has come out in the states with that?
Yeah, that's a freaking joke.
Right. Oh, my. Don't get me freaking started on that.
Yeah. But I mean, we got we got Bluey.
We got I mean, as much as I freaking hate it, Peppa Pig, that's British.
A lot of the shows.
Yeah, a lot of shows that like Iris watches now, like they're all kind of like
British based, like they have British characters, they use British terminology.
Oh, and like their their cultural
diversity is a lot whiter than what I feel like ours was when we were growing up.
That's true.
Like, I feel like there's British humor
that would have gone over my head that wouldn't quite go over.
Iris's head, OK, because of like.
Stuff that she's seen and like terms that she's heard.
I'm trying to think of one in particular, but.
Like, I know this isn't British, but like with Bluey,
like one one thing that she likes, she's
like sunglasses, she goes Sonny's.
That's adorable.
And she's like little things here and there that are
and that's awesome. I love her.
Yeah, it's like it's fantastic.
It's just like she knows and is using
like words that are like we're not familiar to us.
You know what I hate Bluey for, though?
I love it for this, but I also hate it.
I've caught myself so many times saying
duck cake once I pisses me off.
So thank you, Banda Healer.
Really appreciate that.
Oh, my gosh, dude, you have no idea.
I forget I today in front of adults, I said, biscuits.
I guess, yeah, I do that a lot, too.
I get judged very harshly at work,
as you see it like that, as you shouldn't, but you shouldn't because
yeah, I don't care what anyone says.
Bluey is a very good kids show.
It has no right as being as good as it is.
Dude, no kidding.
No kidding at all.
Like anything that comes out of that studio now, like I trust hands down.
Yeah, same.
But anyway, getting back to Chicken Run.
Yeah, sorry.
We could we could go on with Bluey for days.
Yes, we could.
Dude, if they release a freaking Bluey
movie like I would lose my mind.
Oh, I will be there Thursday opening day.
I'll freaking be wearing it like a freaking Bluey t-shirt.
I don't care. I'll probably have bandit on it.
I'm not going to have blue on it.
That might be a little weird.
But dude, did you hear that they're coming out with a Bluey video game?
Yes,
I should be excited for it, but I actually do.
I am.
Talk about freaking episode 350
or whatever the hell that gets for it comes out this year, right?
Yeah, it comes out in November.
Yeah, no way we're not doing that.
Really? Like dead serious?
Freaking Bluey the video game?
Yeah, that's
oh, man.
We still need to figure out what to do for 300.
Yeah, 350.
The video game. All right.
It's planned.
I don't know how people are going to feel about, you know,
I feel Caleb can get away with this, you know, he's got a kid.
I don't know how people feel about me being a single 27 year old guy who
enjoys Bluey as much as he does.
I promise I'm not weird.
You're probably the least weird
Bluey fan that I've come across.
Really? OK, that's good.
There are some like major Bluey fans that are like nuts.
OK, all right.
I thank God.
I'm glad to hear that.
Yeah. So anyway, back to Chicken Run.
Yeah, back to Chicken Run.
Next up, we got animation.
And this is where.
I like I have like mixed feelings about stop motion animation.
And not in the way that you think I could see you ready to
freaking like pop off.
I
I have a huge appreciation for stop motion animation.
A huge like I love the art style.
I think it is so.
Intricate and wild for people to do.
But.
I don't like watching it.
I don't know what it is.
The stop motion like.
And this is weird because it's like with
Nightmare Before Christmas, it's like that movie is walking a very fine line
between something I enjoy watching and like not.
And because that for whatever reason, that that stop motion freaks me out.
OK, watching it in motion is so weird.
And it's not just freaking Ardman.
It's stop motion in general.
Like I've seen people do stop motion with like action figures.
I've seen them do it with like.
Puppets paper like I've seen a bunch of wide varieties of different stop motion.
Yeah. And each one of them, like something about it, like freaks me out.
That is so interesting.
Yeah, but like watching the process of stop motion, I freaking love like
in like, sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, I was just I was just going to say,
like, I've watched behind the scenes of like
Isle of Dogs, freaking Pinocchio or Guillermo del Toro Pinocchio.
Hell, I've watched behind the scenes stuff,
a freaking chicken run, nightmare, like all of that.
I've watched the behind the scenes.
Incredible. Yeah.
But watching the movie itself, I'm just like, yeah,
for again, I feel this would have been Caleb because so a couple of months ago,
Fathom events to celebrate, I forget how long it had been, but they did a special
presentation for two nights of Coraline that
so at the beginning for like 10 minutes, the like two of the art directors like
walked us through like how they you know, how they did the clothing, how they had
how they made the hair move for like running sequences.
Oh, I would have loved that.
It was so freaking cool to watch, like how each character literally has their own
huge like poster frame of costumes for throughout the movie.
It was really freaking cool to watch.
But I feel after those first 10 minutes,
Kale would be like, OK, Rose, let's get out of here.
That's all I needed to see.
Dude, I would have like excessively tried to like convince the people like, listen,
I only want to go for 10 for 10 minutes.
I just want to see behind the scenes shit and leave.
So can I just pay for a quarter of the ticket?
Yeah, like I'll pay for like over I'll pay for like whatever.
I'll divide that by four.
Like I will pay.
Like
I'm not paying the full ticket price, I just want to see 10 minutes.
Oh, shit.
Or be like, oh, can I like watch 10 minutes
of this and then just run and go see a different movie?
Yeah.
But yeah, I love the the artistry that goes into stop motion.
Despite my my my feelings about it and how it like looks, I can appreciate the art
style and just the work that goes into that.
And this movie is no different.
I feel one thing that I also I really appreciate about stop motion animation is
like, you know, like with like Pixar animation, Disney, you know, all that stuff.
As the years go on, their animation improves.
You can totally tell like how like with
Toy Story, like how it looked in with the first one in 1995 compared to Toy Story
for 2019, night and day difference, like like truly the character designs,
the backgrounds, everything animation has truly come a long way with
with 3D animation.
I feel with stop motion, it's a little different because comparing the stop motion
animation in this chicken run to the stop motion animation and the newest one
chicken run, Donald the Nugget, I feel that the characters still look
exactly the same, like honestly, I feel that I feel I feel that's a positive
of using stop motion animation because nothing really changes.
Yeah, sure. You know, like the it's going to look more vibrant.
It's going to look, you know, a little better once you film it.
It's definitely going to it's going to come out.
You're going to get, you know, 4K quality
compared to what we would have gotten in the early 2000s.
But in Kodak quality, right?
But, you know, the the actual the actual like characters stay the same.
The claymation stays the same.
Nothing changes.
As far as I know, it looks the characters look exactly the same.
So I think that's one thing that I appreciate with stop motion animation,
that you have the the quality of the picture that you're filming it or the
the quality of the camera that you're filming stop motion animation on
will improve throughout the decades.
It always will.
But unless you're doing like major character improvements,
that character is always still going to look the same no matter the way that it's
filmed. Yeah, it's just the artistry about it.
You can't fake stop motion.
Yeah, like no matter how hard you try.
Like I think the Lego movie attempted to.
But you could you can tell you can tell
a difference between real stop motion and fake.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like you said, it is literally night and day.
Between like fake and real.
Yep. And so.
Because of that, like I have close to no issues with the animation.
I'm really happy to hear that.
But the question is how what is your final grade?
I am probably around.
Like a 98.
I'm not I'm not like a solid hundred.
I think that there are some things that were
on the jankier side at times.
It's like I couldn't I couldn't like think of a specific instance, but
there's just like one or two moments where I was just like.
Kind of cocked my head to the side.
But other than that, like it's it's rock solid animation.
Bro, I expected you to be so much lower.
I expected to be in like the low 90s,
but not a freaking 98. That's amazing.
Dude, like I said, I appreciate the artistry that goes into it.
It's just personal preference.
I don't like watching it. That's fair.
I have to be at 100.
I'm sorry, because like to me, everything's
everything just flows so perfectly.
So motion animation, especially with Arman's animation,
the way that they're able to make these clay figures look so for.
I'm not going to say realistic,
but the way that they're able to make them look realistic for their
for their movies, for what they're trying to do is it's truly just it's a work of art,
in my opinion, and that there are a reason why there's a reason why to me,
even though they're not all of their projects have been hits,
that they are one of the greatest studios
to come around when it comes to stop motion animation.
Agreed. Absolutely agreed.
All right. Next up, we got music.
Like despite like I can only think of one musical number, the the song that's playing
when they're having that little shindig, but like that little dance party,
the flip flop fly,
that's a freaking banger. Love that song.
But other than that, I can't I swear that there was another.
Oh, yeah, there's that song that Rocky is playing when he's riding on that bike.
The Wanderer. Yeah.
And that's an all right song.
Maybe it's just because Rocky singing it.
I don't want it.
Yeah.
But I mean, other than that, like, you know, like the music's good.
Like if it works for
the movie, but just it's nothing to scream about or it's it's it's it's nothing to,
I guess, write home about.
Yeah, it's.
This one's tough because like I'm not too high with this one.
Um.
Like personally, I'd be at a seven, but I could be talked down.
I was sitting around a six.
I can give you a six.
Yeah, it's it was OK.
But I think
I've seen better soundtracks.
And I think with like an animated movie, you could have done a lot better.
Like honestly, yeah, I've seen better
soundtracks and I've seen better soundtracks from Ardman.
Like there is not one
frickin like.
I'm not going to call pop song, but sure.
Yeah, you know, I'll call it pops on.
There's not one pop song like, you know, the flip flop fly that's in this movie
that is in Wallis and Gromit, the curse of the where where rabbit.
Literally nothing like that.
But I still feel that the score is so much better.
Like the not only like the the the score
that you get for when the where rabbit first appears, but frickin when Wallis
and Gromit are first going to their anti pesto appointment, the first one up
just like the ending, the the the songs that play during that are just absolutely
fantastic. So yeah, like this this is definitely not Ardman's best soundtrack.
I've seen better from them.
Yeah.
Yeah,
can disagree there.
All right.
Next up, we got a character design, which is taking place for costumes.
This is one that's.
Pretty frickin good.
I agree.
I.
I don't know if I'm out of 10.
I don't think I'm out of 10. That's fair.
I can completely understand that.
I so funny enough.
I think my biggest.
Character design issue.
Was always and this is like this stands true, even like as a kid was Mrs.
Tweedy.
OK, OK, all right.
So.
I'm sorry, story time.
I not really.
I thought for years after seeing Chicken Run that Mrs.
Tweedy was a boy.
No shit.
Yeah.
And I thought that like.
When like the.
Chicken and she kind of looked a little
a little bit more like feminine, I thought it was just like a dude dressing up like
a man or or like a man dressing up like a woman for that.
And I was like, that's weird.
But.
Like at the time at the time, but yeah,
realizing now that like Mrs. Tweedy was a woman, I was like, oh, shit.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah, I don't like it's because you don't see her freaking like.
Her hair all that often.
And like when you do.
Like I'm
I'm like looking at pictures, if you look at like, first off, I didn't catch the whole
it's the woman's touch part of her chicken pies billboard.
Oh, you didn't?
Yeah, I didn't catch the Mrs. Tweedy's part either.
I just saw like that at least as a kid, as a kid.
Like I just saw like the apron and then her hair.
You can't see if it like whether it's long or anything.
Like the only time that you ever see is
like kind of at a distance. Yeah.
And yeah, for whatever reason, I always like thought or assumed that she was a man.
And I was like, I totally like
it's funny because it's like something I just totally like accepted and was just
like, yeah, like just some dude who wears a dress.
Like at least for like the household, I was raised in.
I was raised in a house.
At least for like the household, I was raised in.
I was like odd, but whatever.
But yeah, like
when I really took me a second to realize that it was Mrs. Tweedy, I was like, what the shit?
It's like, wait a damn minute.
So you're not a dude.
Yeah, I know.
I think it's just because like Ardman's
characters all kind of look like in the face, I. Yeah.
So, oh, shit.
So, I mean, it's that.
But I mean, the chickens.
The main cast of chickens
looked OK.
It wasn't until it was like the the extra chickens all kind of look the same.
That's fair.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Yeah, it's like they had their like their main cast that were different and edgy.
And then the rest that were just like, whatever
copy paste.
Yeah,
pretty much like that's that's how what I thought.
Um.
So, yeah, I can't in good conscience give this a 10.
But can you give it a nine or an eight?
I'm leaning more towards a nine just
because I feel like they do have a very solid silhouette.
OK, I can agree with that.
All right.
Last up, we got our own personal score.
So you want to take this one first?
Sure, I'd be glad to.
So
as I'm sure it's evident, I'm kind of a an Ardman snob.
I don't know.
I don't know the phrasing for I love Ardman.
They're one of my favorite animation studios still working to this day.
I don't love everything that they've done, but they've
they've made some movies that I grew up on.
Chicken Run was one of them.
And Walson Gromit, The Curse of the Werewolf Rabbit was the other
after revisiting this movie so many years later.
It I still feel it truly holds up it.
The characters are great.
The animation is great.
The story is super, super good.
Just yeah, like honestly, like honestly talking it out
throughout this review reminded me like like
I think I was like kind of bagging on it a little too much when we first started
this, like saying, oh, you know, it's not a masterpiece or, you know,
it's not as great as I used to think it was.
It is still that great.
To me, it really is.
It it's it's I wouldn't call it a masterpiece by any means, but it's still
a great animated movie.
It is still up there for me when it comes to animated films.
And honestly, I loved revisiting it.
I had a great time.
And once again, it reminded me why I love Ardman so much as an animation studio.
So for me.
Hmm.
What am I going to give Chicken Run?
God damn it, sorry.
I'm like,
dude, I've never seen you this indecisive about a score.
Dude, no, because like I
like I'm either I'm either high, high 80s or low 90s.
And I can't decide where I want to be.
This may easily end up becoming one of the biggest differences that we've had.
You know, honestly, just because I feel that like I'm sorry to compare it again.
Walson Gromit,
Walson Gromit isn't a film to me.
That's what Curse of the Were-Abbit is to me.
I love that movie to death.
Chicken Run is slightly below that, in my opinion.
So I think I'm going to go on 89 for Chicken Run.
Oh, boy.
Oh, shit.
How low are you?
I am a lot lower than you.
You son of a bitch.
Listen, I.
I had like until like it wasn't until you came up with the idea to do this episode.
I if it weren't for this, I probably would have never watched Chicken Run again.
Even with the sequel coming out, even with the sequel coming out, I
was so confident that I was like, yeah, I remember this fairly well.
And like, for the most part, I did overarching story.
I totally did.
But it's like I missed some of the.
The humor and quips that I was too young for at the time and and whatnot.
And like, I appreciated them and I felt like the story structure was was good.
But.
I'm kind of back on this boat, unless I have a really solid reason to watch this
movie, I'm probably never going to see this again.
Damn. And it's.
Again, it's not because it was a bad movie.
Like I had a good time with it, but it's just like.
One of those movies for me.
Not I completely understand.
Yeah, so I my personal enjoyment of this was not high.
So I'm actually sitting at like.
A 78.
Damn.
Holy shit.
Yeah, I.
I gave it a very solid effort to enjoy this because I was like, I feel like I was
hard on this movie, like as a kid and whatever, because like as a kid, I like
straight up didn't like this movie.
Rude.
Yeah. But as as I as an adult, I have a better appreciation for it.
And that's just because I'm not as big of an asshole as I used to be.
He still is.
I'm kidding.
I do have a question, though, for how many times I have freaking brought it up.
Have you seen Walls and Gromit, the curse of the were rabbit?
No, no.
OK, well, buddy, it's on your Voodoo.
So you really should check it out.
Just saying you have no excuse.
It's at your fingertips.
I'm just saying you don't have to.
But like, have you ever seen anything of Walls and Gromit?
Yes. OK, I've seen some of the shorts.
Yeah. OK, I think you'll really like the movie.
I really do.
I wouldn't put money on that.
Of course, I barely like the shorts.
You mother ever the shorts.
I think if I were to give those a personal score, I'd probably be at like an 80.
Like, I'm like, yeah, like they were all right.
But.
Yeah. Oh, hell no, you did not just disrespect
Walls and Gromit like that.
It wasn't intentional disrespect.
Sure, I'm sure it wasn't.
Oh, man.
Oh, just so everyone knows, he's going to be better about that for the next, like,
month. Yeah, I will.
Yeah, since since Caleb's, you know,
coming out to Utah and I'm sure I'll see him at least once.
Yeah, that's like the first thing I'm going to be like, hey, man, what's up?
You know, you haven't seen since January.
So Walls and Gromit, huh?
Oh, shit.
Yeah, this is definitely going to be something I hear about for the next month.
Yeah, you really are.
You really are.
I'm just going to keep texting you every day until you watch the curse of the
were rabbit.
Well,
yeah, I'm not watching it past the 31st.
So you mother.
OK, yeah, that is a.
Yeah.
So all right, we'll see.
We'll see.
But with that, that actually wraps up this week's breakdown.
So going through these scores real quick, starting off with story,
we kick this off with a very sturdy 83.
Writing had a pretty decent bumps and going up to an 87.
Acting went a little bit down below the story, sitting at an eighty two point five
character development, took another bit of a dive, sitting at an eighty one.
The absolute high point of this movie being the animation ended up averaging to
a ninety nine.
The music.
Average as average can be, but it did have one kind of.
I wouldn't even call it a banger, it was kind of like I would call it toe tapper,
a toe tapper.
We had a solid toe tapper.
Sit.
There we go. Something's not a banger, it's a toe tapper.
There we go.
Remember to use that for future.
That is perfection.
Holy shit.
What if we just instead of like the one out of ten, we come up with like
different levels of music, like ten, ten out of ten is like the is a banger.
Then like the six out of ten is toe tapper.
Dude, that'd be the shit.
We are basically we genuinely need to like
think about that, dude, I'm so down this.
I love this idea.
OK.
Our move over to character design
got a decent bump up to a nine out of ten.
And then our personal score averaged out to an eighty three point five.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for Chicken Run has come out to a.
Drum noise, drum noise, drum noise, drum noise.
You just tap on your fingers.
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't really work that well.
They're not even like a little bit.
I'm sorry, I'm trying to improvise here.
OK.
All right, but it came out to a B.
OK, I will take that.
Yeah, I will take that.
I'm glad it wasn't a B minus.
It was a pretty solid B.
It's actually closer to the B plus than a B minus.
Yes.
So our cut off for a B is eighty three.
This ended up scoring an eighty five point one two.
OK, it's not bad.
Yeah. So it's like just missed the mark for for B plus.
Damn, I can understand why I can understand why.
Yeah, so
let me.
See what this.
Dude, gosh, damn it, we're like.
We all like with B movies, we always kind of end up in like the same area.
It feels like.
OK, so.
Like we said, Chicken Run is sitting at an eighty five point one two percent.
That put our in all the other movies that we have
scored on this podcast and like in bonus time,
we put Chicken Run below holes.
They ended up below the flash.
Fair.
It's below the unbearable weight of massive talent.
I might disagree with that, but this is me.
It makes you feel better.
It's really freaking close.
OK, that does make me feel better.
It's like point two percent difference.
Damn. OK.
Yeah, like these margins are
point. Yeah, seriously.
Holy shit.
All right. Let's see.
Unbearable weight is below Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
OK.
I ended up below Cruella.
OK.
And it's below onward.
You know what? I probably don't disagree with that.
Yeah, go somewhere.
Let's see if we agree going the other direction.
OK, all right.
So this ended up above the.
Whatever you are, the remake of The Lion King.
Oh, yeah, I definitely agree with that.
It ended up above Hocus Pocus.
That's a tough sell for me.
Yeah, but they're two such two different films.
Yeah.
Excuse me.
All right, let's see.
It ended up above the twenty twenty three remake of The Little Mermaid.
I'm OK with that. I can accept that.
It's above Megan.
I can agree with that.
Yeah, and then it ended up above the Matrix Resurrections.
Yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
Sorry, DJ.
Yeah, I can give that to.
Oh, that's only that's five.
So, yeah, that's where I end up ranking.
And funny enough, even going like that distance, it's.
It's point four percent.
You're within a point four percent bubble.
Wow. Damn.
With all of these.
Like to get our to go a full percentage below Chicken Run, which would be like eighty
four point one. Oh, that's perfect.
It's a Christmas story Christmas.
All right. OK.
Yeah. And then I'd have to go to the B plus to find the other one, but
we're going the other direction. But, yeah.
Let's see.
So an eighty six point one to
Nightmare on Elm Street.
That's that's a full percentage above
Chicken Run.
Really? Yeah.
Wow. And that's going up 13 movies.
Holy shit. Damn.
Yeah. And then
going below Chicken Run, going to an eighty four point one to
you're going down 15.
So it's 15 movies before you get a full percentage away from Chicken Run.
Damn. Yeah.
It's freaking crazy.
Yeah. Crazy margins, dude.
Dude, seriously. Holy shit.
Our range is usually pretty, pretty packed.
Yeah, at least lately, like
it's been a hot minute since we've gotten like a C movie.
That's true. Yeah, it has.
Yeah.
I mean, hell, we didn't we were we had a period of time where it was like a C
movie here, C plus D minus and then like the occasional B.
Like lately, it's been.
A freaking hot spot of B's, B pluses and A's.
Interesting. Our last C plus movie was Rise of the Beasts.
Damn. And that was in June, right?
Or yes, yes, see that C plus movie.
So it's been a hot minute.
Holy shit. We need to get some shitty movies.
Yeah, we do.
On our roster.
But yeah. So anyway, that wraps up this week's episode.
We hope you guys appreciate.
Appreciate what the.
Was I way.
I know I had it mixed up.
We really appreciate you and we hope you enjoyed the.
So.
That is what I meant.
Nothing else.
So
I'm saying Caleb's got a big ego.
Yeah, I know. Holy shit.
That's why it felt so weird.
I'm like, I can feel my ego being like, wait, what do you say?
We're not that confident.
Stop.
But yeah, we hope you guys enjoy this episode.
We really appreciate everyone that listens to this and enjoys having a good time with us.
Yeah.
But yeah, so next week
that we will be back to our regularly scheduled
recording schedule.
So we will be breaking down five nights at Freddy's.
Yeah, I cannot express how excited I am for.
So stoked.
So freaking excited.
Have you seen the videos that are going around Tick Tock with like they like some
people filmed on set of like the animatronics, like actually moving and everything.
And like it's so like that, like like a lot of them, like got like hugs from like
Foxy and Bonnie and Chica.
I think there were stunt performers in the suits or maybe it was just animatronics.
Foxy was definitely just animatronic because no one can go into the Foxy suit
because of the way the Foxy is. Right.
But yeah, like freaking like it was so cool.
Like watching them, you know, like hug these people,
like the facial expressions that they would give like one time that their eyes
would be fine and then they would go glowing red,
especially like the looks that Chica would give.
It was like freaking terrifying, but I freaking loved it.
It was so cool watching.
Freaking love that shit.
But yeah, very excited for this.
This has been a long time coming.
Oh, yeah, dude, it really has.
And I really hope it lives up to the hype.
You have no idea.
I'm excited, you know, especially excited to see it in theaters, especially
freaking pumped. Yes.
But yeah, so you guys can look forward to that next week until then.
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