What is up, bros?
I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros.
This week on the podcast and 4k spotlight, we have one new release that we're going to
discuss.
And then we finally have something for through the wall and kinda talking about a the second
trailer for a movie that were indifferent about.
I feel the second trailer sold me a little more on it.
Fair, fair.
But we'll get into that.
So yeah.
And then after that, we will be getting into our breakdown this week, which will finally
be our discussion about a haunting in Venice.
I feel called out when you say finally, I just want to point that out.
Well you should.
We had to delay this because of you.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
I apologize.
Yeah.
Um, so without further ado, let's say we get rocking and rolling.
Let's do it.
Hey, it's Mike and T and Grant and Billy and we are the Hollywood podcast and you are listening
to the all bros podcast.
The best movie podcast that is not us.
Yeah.
Second best.
They got, don't say best.
They got some decent reviews.
If you start lying to the audience right away, they're not going to buy anything you say.
I mean, yeah, no, but they have awesome mediocre views on movies.
Yeah, they're fine.
They're fine.
So keep listening for more of that.
I'll never be able to get over the, we have awesome mediocre reviews.
Thanks, Mikey.
Appreciate it.
I love it.
I love it so much.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, first up in 4k spotlight, uh, we have one new release this week that we're going
to go over.
So Rose, would you like to tell everyone about this one?
I would love to.
Um, so coming out this week is the make two, which I'm assuming Caleb didn't see cause
I didn't see either.
Nope.
Okay, cause I didn't even see the first one.
Neither did I.
Um, I'm not, I'm not a huge like shark movie kind of guy.
I've never even seen jaws.
Um, honestly, I haven't either.
Okay.
Did you like the only other like guy that I've met that's never seen jaws?
So this is what I've seen of jaws.
I've seen a lot of the back or behind the scenes footage of it and like discussions
of it.
I've seen some of like the, the highlight reel moments of the film.
That's it.
That's all I know about jaws.
Okay.
I couldn't tell you the characters names or anything.
I assume it just begins and ends like any other shark movie.
No, fair enough.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Either everyone gets eaten in the shark survives or the shark dies.
So I figure it's somewhere in that ballpark, so I don't feel the need to, I have a big
issue with like disaster movies and that kind of, I throw sharks, shark movies in that,
that ballpark.
Okay.
That's fair.
So what you're telling me is like, you're not a fan of like the shark NATO franchise.
No, not even a little bit.
Listen, I'm, I'm, I'm so down for like a bad movie night, like any day of the week, but
shark NATO and like those super crazy, like shark NATO esque movies.
Don't do it for me.
Like even a little bit.
Dude, that's fair.
I feel the same way.
Yeah.
Never seen jaws, never seen shark NATO.
Um, yeah, honestly.
Yeah.
So shark movies just don't do it for either of us.
Any disaster movie, like any weather related movie does like, I hate those unless there's
a solid story.
I really don't like them.
They're out of like all the disaster movies that like, I do feel I want to check out eventually.
Twister is one because I still to this day have never seen twister.
No, I, I, I've seen parts of twister.
Okay.
It's never been able to keep my attention.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
Again, it's one of those horror arts, one of those, uh, the disaster movies, does that,
like I said, disaster movies do not keep my attention in the slightest monster movies
in general, like have a real hard time keeping my attention.
Like same thing I had with like Godzilla versus Kong.
But the only reason that I was, I got into that was because there was like combat between
them.
They're individual movies.
I'm just like, whatever, take it or leave it.
That's fair.
You know, I can completely understand where you're coming from that.
Um, I do.
Okay.
I do have one disaster movie that I think you would like.
It's called disaster movie.
Is that like the disaster movie parody?
Yeah.
You ever seen that?
I have not.
Don't do it.
It's one of the worst.
Puppet road, shenanigans.
Yeah, dude.
I've had it.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
I hope you have a great time, Sam, that we appreciate you commenting.
Yeah.
It's free.
You had to pay for that.
Yeah, that's true.
Um, but yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
um but yeah, and, um, yeah, disaster movie one of the worst 540 parodies alright guys
first, a, um, um, um.
One of the worst parody movies I've ever seen.
Oh, but it's like, but yeah, yeah, I think it's like absolute dog shit.
But yeah, I'll still come back to it occasionally if I'm in the mood for a parody movie and
I have no fricking idea.
Why?
Like I really don't.
Mm.
But it is one of those guilty pleasure.
It might be it honestly might be god damn it
Anyway, so the make to the trench
I don't know about you, but one I didn't know that there were freaking dinosaurs in this movie, dude
Anything I've seen about this movie. Nothing's been able to sell me about this movie
Covered has done nothing
Do I feel that this cover it it looks too busy like way too much going on and oh my god
Does it look photoshopped?
It absolutely does but at least it's consistently looking like that
Fair. All right, I can give you that
Other than that, I totally agree. It is it's way too busy. Well, like I think what's throwing me is
Is you kind of have to like really focus on?
The shark other like if you start looking too much at everything else
It's like there's too much water covering his mouth
And so it like blint his it's kind of blends into the waves and then the waves are the same color
It's the sky. So everything just kind of blends into the sky
So it's kind of like a weird optical illusion
Yeah, dude
So so true like you have to take a second look to even realize that there's a friggin t-rex on the front
Honestly, I would prefer it if you didn't include the t-rex if it was just the shark opening his mouth
Yeah, like I don't need to see what the shark is about to eat like it could be way off in the distance
I don't give a shit. I feel that would have looked a lot cooler
Do this it is an odd
poster cuz like
It's like just are just looking at it the nostrils
Kind of looked like like I don't know about you, but I'm someone that sees
Faces in random objects. Yeah. Well now I do you son of a bitch
So yeah, the nostrils look like eyes and then it just looks like a big yawning mouth
I was gonna say you smash the guy going no
That's exactly what I'm seeing right now and now it's like something I can't unsee so same
I'm gonna go into a store and see this I'm just gonna be
That's all I'm gonna be able to do now oh
My gosh, do you pardon me? What like if I have time and probably I'll probably draw that shit out and just for shit and giggles
Alright so that's the 4k
Next up we got the blu-ray, which I think this was just like the regular poster that they have for the movie
So
Yeah, honestly out of all these I think this is my favorite cuz you know, you got freaking
Jason Statham looking badass on the front a close-up of the the shark's mouth
Looks cool
Yeah, I'm digging this I'm digging it too. It very much
Looks like he's been photo like taking a picture on a green screen
True. I think the the back image is just like way too clear
I think there should have been a focus on
one or the other
That you know a fair like I would have blurred
Jason a little bit
Personally or maybe that would have been that would have been a cool shit. What's that 3d effect again?
Oh lenticular. Yeah lenticular where it's like, I don't know how well that would look though
But like maybe the lenticular is like one direction
It looks like Jason Statham's in focus and then the other one it's the shark and focus
Okay, yeah, I think that
Basic but I don't think it's basic it could work. Yeah. No, dude. I like that
I've never seen a lenticular do focus though. I don't know if I have either
Actually, yeah, that'd be an interesting
one to do but
Like we said, I like this this cover a lot better than the other one
Next up the best buy exclusive steelbook. Is that a plane? Yeah, that's a plane. I
Don't I don't know I don't like this one I I don't either
Yeah, I'm not digging it
Yeah, this is an odd one
I mean, yeah, and
And I'm curious to see what you think of the other steelbook, which is a walmart exclusive
Is that dog? Yeah, it's a dog. What the fuck?
I don't like it not not not because of the the dog about to get freaking chomped. It's just
I do not dig that cover. What are they thinking? The only good cover is the blu-ray cover. Yeah, and that's not even great
So, yeah, whoever was in charge of designing this shit
I hope you improve for the make three. I'm just saying
Oh my gosh, are they doing a make three? I actually have no idea. Okay. I really hope they don't
Um, gosh, dude, I don't even know what I would do for for a shark movie
Like I dislike them so much like I
I don't know how to make a a cover like that cool
I'd probably if I'm like
Thinking off the top of my head. It'd be something like this
The it would be clear
Like closed mouth
Though where so it's like the shark head and then i'd have like kind of like slightly open jaw
and then have
Jason statham like crashed like almost like doing like a jump
Spear attack on to the mag
Okay. So yeah, that would look cool
Yeah, I mean that's one i'd have to see to like confirm it. It'd look cool, but
All right, fair enough. It's just like it's the best I can come up with off the top of my head
Especially for a freaking shark movie
I don't know if i've ever seen like a decent shark cover other than maybe jaws
You know, that's only because jaws is like super cool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Damn. I've never seen you hate a genre of movie so much
Dude, disaster movies are the worst. Oh, this is funny
Yeah, I think I feel like we've talked about this before though
Like it's it we have just for some reason. I'm not one of our it's definitely one of our like earlier episodes
Okay, but we've discussed it before
Movie like genres that we like just can't stand. Okay, and
Like this it's disaster movies and I throw shark movies in the mix to that. That's fair
That that that's completely fair
So yeah, so that is uh
That is it for 4k spotlight
So yeah, so that is
Uh, that is it for 4k spotlight
Dude you know what we don't get enough of
I said that was it
No, well we don't get enough of in terms of like these types of movies
Sharks are done to death
True, but you know what I would like to see more of
like
Giant squid
I don't hate that
I like I I am a big sucker for like I I was recently uh watching a clip from pirates of the caribbean
When they were getting attacked by the kraken i'm a sucker for a good kraken attack
Why does that sound funny to me?
Yeah, I know it's like sharks don't do it but giant squids do
I don't know like I I think they're a bit more on the original side. I don't know like
I just feel sharks are overdone
It's just like ooh, we're not scary ocean creature. What about a shark?
No, what they really should be using is a dolphin because those are freaking terrifying
Mm-hmm, uh
In the meg 3 I want a dolphin to be the main villain turns out the meg is actually the hero
That's what I want in the meg 3
Or one of the where the freaking like
bulb fish
From like finding nemo. Oh, yeah a giant one of those that'd be freaking that's scary
Yeah, that'd be cool as hell though
That'd be trippy
But yeah, that's where i'm uh where i'm at with freaking disaster movies. That's fair
So i'm i'm going to just uh speculate that uh, neither of us have any
plans or interest in checking out the meg 2 or or meg
Honestly, if i'm not gonna say that it will really depend on how slow next year is
on how slow next year is
Fair enough
Fair enough. I feel like we we're gonna hit a freaking just
Stale period of time where nothing's coming out because of that damn strike
Yeah, that's true, let's see. Yeah, that's a good point shit. Yeah, like luckily we're pretty
packed um
Until the the new year
Okay
but once the new year hits like
There aren't very many movies off the top of my head. I can like lists that are coming out
Oh, yeah, january is all even with the strike january is always a dead month when it comes to movies
Yeah, so there may be a a period of time that we need to like
Go back and hit some ones that we've missed and make two might be on that list
Well shit, I wouldn't even know how to adjust our breakdown system for that
Yeah, you got me man, so
We could still do story we could still do writing and acting
Character developments out the freaking window. That's true
Like I don't know like could could we even like do what we did with like horror and change that to a logic
I mean, I guess you could you think? I think so. I mean dude. I i've never i've never watched any shark movies
So I honestly do not know well this like this is just in line with like any disaster movie
That's true. Yeah
I mean I feel with other ones it might be a little hard
But I feel with like shark movies that probably it's a lot easier to do the
Logic with those
But like maybe like twister shit like that. It might be a little harder
Yeah
But effects we could do music we could do I mean, okay
I guess the real kicker is always character development because that one gets shifted around a lot more than any of our other
Categories this is true
Yeah
So, yeah
anyway
Moving on over to through the wall
We only had one
New trailer released this week
Yes, as far as I know
Yeah
But yeah, we got a second trailer for wonka
And I gotta say this one like you said this one sold me a lot of money
Like you said this one sold me a lot better than the the other one did
Yeah
If and you know what it might be just speak it like i'm gonna sound like a dick here
Um, like don't I think timothy chalamet is a really good actor. Like he's he's pretty damn good
but
I felt in the first trailer. He talked a little too much. Um
and was
The way that he was trying to be like so, um
What's the word I guess exaggerated or like, um
Tried to project
His voice so much that like it came across as kind of annoying
In the first trailer. So the fact that like he
Not I feel in this trailer
He has a lot more like serious moments and like more personal moments. And so
I liked I liked his performance in this trailer more
I will fully admit the more that I watched the first trailer it grows on me like I i've come to accept the way that
Timothy chalmé is approaching his version of willy wonka
um
but
Yeah, I I will admit that the um
I I did like him a little more in the second trailer. Um
and
I
I'm very curious to see um his full take on willy wonka because it seems
I mean, do you feel that he's channeling just gene wilder or do you feel that he's channeling both johnny dep and gene wilder?
I honestly think this is a healthy mix. Yeah. Okay. That's what I think
It's enough of gene wilder a little bit of of johnny dep. I don't think he's diving too deep into johnny dep
um
Just because I feel like johnny devs are real tough
character to
draw from
That's fair. Um, but I do feel like there's hints of it in there. Yeah
And I think he's like also kind of making it his own. So it's a healthy
It's a healthy mix of everything
Yeah, I know this does very much seem like it's going to be the origin of gene wilder's wonka
Yeah, it definitely does. Um
Because I remember when the first trailer came out, um, and I saw you know, how wonka was looking
I was like that looks more like johnny dep for some reason it looked like that to me then I was like wait no no no
No, the the outfit that he's wearing
Like yeah, it's not exactly how gene wilder's looked and the in willy wonka and the chocolate factory
But it's pretty damn close. I feel and
I know it's
It definitely is the organ for gene wilder's
Not johnny depps. Yeah, I think the only reason that I'm even getting the hints of johnny dep
Is because gene wilder's a very
light-haired
Brunette where timothy chalamet is very dark-haired
That's fair. Yeah, no that honestly I feel the same way
Um
But not like honestly, I yeah this trailer definitely sold me a lot more
Definitely enjoyed, um, timothy chalamet's performance more in this trailer. Um
I the more I see the more I think he was a really good choice for willy wonka
um
Everything that they're doing with um, like
Candy chocolate like the atmosphere of it the making process of it is it actually looks really freaking cool
I love the at the atmosphere
Um, and not only in this trailer, but it looks like what it's gonna look like
Um, and not only in this trailer, but it looks like what it's gonna be in the movie
Um, like especially that like freaking like uh, that alleyway
Not alleyway, but just like that shopping center of just like all of these like, um chocolate shops
And then there's like these like what is it like four people that are um,
That will make or break your uh candy company
um, yeah
I think this is gonna have a really
good transition
between
um
Like the overarching story and those like moments are just pure magic
Because it does look like though like the scenes where like I think when it jumps into like
What look like musical numbers? I don't know how musical this film is going to be
But I do feel like there's going to be like a musical number or two
Um, I feel like those are going to be really grand and epic where the story feels very
Muted and then it's eventually going to get to a point where it's like more and more magical
Yeah
And and I feel for Willy Wonka that just makes that just makes sense
Yeah, exactly. I mean that that's that's how it was with gene wilder's
Willy Wonka. Yeah, it was very like kind of a
a
doom and gloom very drab feeling
Environment for the first little bit and then you enter the chocolate factory and it's just
Pure magic
So I I have a feeling that that's kind of the route that they're going to
Be taking and i'm very excited for it
I am too and the fact that this is uh,
The director of paddington is doing this. Um, paddington's amazing, right?
So that alone just sells me
Like I never saw paddington, too. Um, I I need to
Do I I hear it's the best. Yeah, that's that's what I hear. Um, I loved the first paddington so much
It's it's such a heartwarming film
um that like I have a feeling feeling that i'm
Probably going to love this movie. I'd be very shocked if
If um, this actually doesn't end up being probably not as good as the paddington movies, but damn near close
Fair totally fair
um
But I I feel we gotta point out though. Hugh grant as a new paloompa
um
I have a feeling he's gonna make this movie, bro
Oh, I'm too excited here
He
I was not
Very sure about him with the first trailer where or at least when in the trailer that we got introduced to him
He sold me
As a freaking oompa loompa
damn near
immediately
Uh
And the the fact they'll they sing um, they do like the classic tune
But to like anything that they want to get a point across with
I freaking love that
Same same here
I i'm so sold on this. I cannot wait to break that one down. Yeah, I feel like that's so exciting
That's either going to be a major flop or it's I think it's going to be a genuine surprise
Is it's one or the other? I don't think there's going to be a middle ground. That's right. I really hope it's a genuine surprise
I really really hope so
so
Yeah, after the boringness that um or after seeing uh
Uh timothy chalamet in dune and for how boring that was not to his it wasn't his fault, but
Just um partially his fault fair. Um
Um, I I definitely like seeing him in this role that you know, he can he can be more um
extravagant excited
Um, like I I feel that this definitely gets it gets him to showcase his acting talents a lot more
So I really look forward to seeing his willy wonka in its full potential
I'd like to see how far this pushes him outside of his comfort zone like during interviews and stuff
Yeah, because I mean he does seem like he's a very like funny guy, but it's also kind of like
Seems like dry humor is his go-to
Okay, I I haven't seen any interviews with him, but um
I I could definitely see that with him. Yeah, I I want to watch more stuff with him in it where it maybe
like see if there's any other movie where he's given a personality and not just
The a very like the dry character. Yeah
Um, yeah
The only movies I know i've seen him in is like one is dune
um
He was in little woman wasn't he he was okay?
I did not I did not find him very interesting in that film. I found the film itself to be amazing
Yeah, but him I wasn't super impressed with
um
I
And then I did see him he like kind of had a minor appearance in don't look up
Never saw that
So it's that one with leonardo de caprio jennifer lawrence where they discover an asteroid's gonna come and like hit earth
Oh shit, yeah
Oh my god, I totally for you know
Did you watch that I only got halfway through it's a stupid movie really
It made me so mad
Don't tell christina that because she actually really enjoyed it. She she I told her to finish it without me
And she actually really enjoyed the ending. So don't tell christina that it
Infuriated me
The ending pissed me off so freaking bad it wasn't even funny. Oh, but that is funny
I
Guess
I guess that that in itself is but yeah, it pissed me off and
But timothy chalamet and that was was pretty
De-ease and somewhat decent. He's I he's I
So hopefully this is his true starring role and
It's nothing but up from here
I think you can only hope yeah, you can only hope
Um
But yeah, so with this trailer, where's your excitement level?
For wonka, I'd say i'm at an eight
An eight damn. Yeah. Yeah
um
I was originally at like a four
I was feeling like very am not like I was I was just I was more indifferent about the movie
All right. It's just more like well if I got nothing better to do
I'll go check it out. Now. I I I do want to go see it. So i'm probably sitting more around like
Maybe like a six and a half maybe a seven. All right, I can give you that
Yeah
But all right, um
So unless you got anything else to add you got nothing
Um, yeah, I believe we can move on to this week's headliner
Let's do it
All right, we got our spooky atmosphere
Activated
I love it. Even though this movie wasn't nearly as scary as I thought it was going to be
That's fair
Yeah
I I expected a lot more jump scares. Honestly
I did too
I'm surprised that we didn't get as as many as uh
I don't know. I thought I thought we were gonna get more. Yeah
Um less than on kenneth brana
Yes
but first
We did ask a question of the week
um, and we did get a a couple responses
to that I
I didn't check youtube, but I know we got a couple on tik tok and
There's a couple from a few weeks ago when we were supposed to break down this movie
um, but didn't
My bad
Yeah, so, uh, let me pull that up
All right doesn't look like we got any on
youtube
At least for that week. Let me see if I can find
The week that we were supposed to break this down
Uh, nothing on that one either
Let's see on tik tok for the week that we were supposed to do this
Um, we have uh, uh
We have uh, yes. Wow. Sorry
Mind mind fart brain fart. Geez. Uh, so we have two from that one from
When we were supposed to break this down a couple weeks ago and then two as well from this week for that question
So four in total from tiktok
Uh, so you want to take the ones from the old video and i'll take the ones from the new I would love to
All right. Um, so we worded it differently on each video, but we
um
We more or less we asked
hey
What is a paranormal event that you've been a part of or like something scary that's happened to you that turned you from like?
skeptic to believer
um
So we did yeah
so going off through these uh
These answers rose. Do you want to take the first one? I'd love to
Uh coming from flaccid pancake
Um, they said I saw a shadow throw my cat off the table
Yeah, i'd burn that house to the ground. Um, if that happened I'd grab my cat and
Just run bitch run
Fair enough
All right, um
I I just want to clarify i'm quoting scary movie, too. I'm not calling you a bitch. Um, just gotta clarify that
I mean you you say that like you haven't called me a bitch before that
You know fair
That that's a good point
Yeah, um
All right
Our our my first one's from talented failure who said I was at a funeral home
I went to the basement lounge area and the lights turned on by themselves
Uh, they were not motion detected
Yo, hell no, especially if it's a yeah the fact you know
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'd be out so fast
dude, oh I
Know my my I would jump out of my freaking shoes
If that happened to me anything anything even remotely spooky like a freaking like light decides to go out at a funeral home
I'm out
Yeah, you will never see me in that building again
Uh, nope, that one's haunted
Absolutely the hell not
Um
All right. What's your next one?
Uh coming from talented failure
Trademark I have to point that out because he they had to put a t they had to put the tm really funny
um
They said uh things moving and disappearing before my very eyes
Oh, they they posted that one or that was the same person that did mine. Oh really? Oh, yeah
I'll be damn right. It's my first one. Oh, okay
Okay, cool
Um, but yeah, uh, no, thanks. Yeah
I'm good
Honestly, like I think that's something that if that were to happen to me where something were to just disappear
My adhd is bad enough where I would just believe that I misplaced it
You know what
My adhd is not that bad, but you know, fair enough
Like I think for me for that for me to get freaked out by something like that
I would have to be looking at something and then it would have to disappear
That's fair. Yeah, I I I can understand that. Yeah, that would freak me the hell out
but I
Again, if if it was just like oh I play something look away and I look back and it's gone
That would be like
Wait, didn't I put it over here and then I'd start looking for it and then like eventually find it be like, oh
I guess I put it over here
Like that's probably the worst thing a poltergeist could do is just move it
Then I'd just be like, oh, well, guess I put it there
Oh, man, like I am so bad with shit like that like super bad
Like super bad. All right. My last response comes from
Spidey on tik-tok who said I was going upstairs and went into my room
I saw a drawing I did a while ago then it moved like someone was moving it but no one was there
Yeah, once again, hell no i'm out
Um, i'm either selling the place or i'm just gonna burn it down to the ground. Um,
I guess uh, we'll find out in that moment
Mm-hmm. Probably burning that shit down if i'm gonna be honest here
Okay, um
I got a question for you
Yeah, I
Took this this art class
I don't remember if you were in it
Did you ever take the art class with the the hippie looking to?
the the hippie looking teacher
Was this in junior high or high school junior high
I think I did. Yeah. Okay. Did you ever make the tape people?
Yes, yeah, we did. Okay. Did you take yours home?
I don't think I did. No, I just no I threw mine away
Okay, I took mine home
uh
and then
shortly after
Destroyed it
Okay, because it scared the ever-loving bejesus out of me
uh
When I believed I was home alone
Oh god, okay
so
I came home
My mom had taken
Uh my brothers to a
To something it might it might have been uh, like speech therapy or something. There was just some appointment
usually when I get home my
Dad is not home. So I I walked
Or caught a ride with someone or whatever and for whatever reason I was home alone or I thought I was
I
Had forgotten about this little tape person that I created
Which for those of you that don't know what he had us do was like wrap our arms up and tape backwards
And then cut it off and then we had to tape all those
Those limbs back together and create like a a little like a tape version of ourselves
Yep, um
So yeah, I took mine home
Because I thought it was cool and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna hang it up somewhere. I so what I did
um, we had like a kind of a coat rack looking thing and
We had just cleared it off. So it was like completely empty. So I had it hung up on string
So I just tied it to the coat rack because I didn't want to like lay it down on anything
Um, so I hung it up went upstairs forgot about it
and then
What I when I was home alone
I come running downstairs because I thought I was going to be slick and like try playing my my xbox when no one was
around
I come down and I see this figure that's in it like because so what I was trying to do was a
I'm trying to remember the pose. Oh, I was trying to do like
one of those poses like
Like a mr. Universe
Pose, okay
um it ended up turning into like
that
Like oh shit scary pose. Yeah
And so like I I had like slept with this thing downstairs before so it was like kind of up
But it was like kind of standing like this. So no big deal, right?
I run downstairs, but the damn thing had tipped over so it was down on the ground looking like he was like
crawling, right
Oh hell no
down
It just like and all the lights were off and you know, like our my room was downstairs and so it was
Dark is like all hell. So there was no light reflecting on this thing
so I just see this golem looking creature just
like and I
I I
Remember I came down and I saw it and I went
And I freaked out and like launched lurched myself backwards. I hit my head on the on the wall
Behind me and I was like, ah shit. It was like ran upstairs
And it like took me a second to remember like, oh, okay
I think my thing fell down and I like slowly went downstairs and it was like peeking around the corner and I was like, okay
Okay, it's still there
and then I just like charged at it and
Smushed it to the ground and like one pull it up and threw it away
I was like I have not taken the chance that this thing is freaking possessed
Oh my god, dude, that's amazing
Holy shit
Yeah
so
Yeah, that's that's kind of what that that last response made me think
I
Love it
Oh, man
But anyway, thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week. We really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah
So now without further ado getting into this week's breakdown if you have not
Listen to our
Breakdowns before we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually split
Categories that we individually score to come to a final albrose letter grade the eight categories that we score are story
writing
acting character development
effects music costumes
And then we give it our own personal score at the very end all of those numbers get magically added up and
Spit through our algorithm and give us a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar score
um
So if you have not seen a haunting in venice and you plan to at any point
Do not listen to this episode
Just we do not want to be the one that spoils this for you. It is a really good reveal
um
So yeah, if you listen beyond this point and anything is spoiled for you
tough shit
Yeah
Hate to be that guy, but he's gonna be that guy. Yeah, you did it to your damn self
Uh, so rose is going to be reading through the entire synopsis of this film, um
So this is your last and final spoiler warning
So without further ado, let's get to our favorite segment that we like to call reading with rose
All right
in 1947 her cure her cure puro
Uh lives in retirement in venice employing ex-police officer. I'm gonna butcher these names so bad
I'm gonna let you guys know that right now
um
employing ex-police officer
vitale
Port foglio foglio to act as a bodyguard on halloween mystery writer
Ariadne is that how you say her damn name?
Do you know kayla? Ah shit. I gotta pull these names up one sec
You know as if her cute her cute parole was hard it was hard enough
Um, they just had to freaking just throw on all of these these names
Uh
I do not know how to pronounce that name
um
Okay, well i'm just gonna go with
Ariadne. Yeah, let's go with that ariadne
uh oliver convinces perot to attend a seance at the
Palazzo
a famed opera singer rowena
Rowena drake and exposed joeice reynolds a world war one army nurse turned medium as a fraud
Uh rowena has hired joeice to help her commune with her daughter alicia who reportedly committed suicide after her fiance
chef maxim gerard
Broke off their engagement among the guests in attendance are maxim rowena's housekeeper olga seminov
Your ex-family doctor leslie farrier and his son leopold and joeice's romani assistant
desdemona holland
Wow
All right during the seance perot deduces that joeice has two assistants
Revealing desdemona's half-brother nicolas hiding in the chimney joeice suddenly speaks in alicia's voice and reveals
She was murdered by one of the guests perot attempts to confront joeice who tells him to lighten up and gives him her mask
Give gives her her mask wow and gives him
Her mask and robe seconds after an unknown assailant assit assailant nearly drowns perot when he is apple bobbing
joeice is found impaled on a statue in the courtyard
With a storm cutting off the pole
Palazzo
Yep, okay. Thank you perot interviews the guests during which he witnesses
Manifestations of alicia's ghost and here's a young girl humming a tune the investigation yields perplexing results
Leslie severely traumatized by his experiences at the liberation of the burger belzum
In concentration camp is in love with rowena
Maxime who was not initially invited broke off his engagement because rowena did not approve of him and alicia was obsessed with keeping her mother happy
Nicolas and desdemona have been stealing from joeice and intend to use the money to travel to st. Louis, missouri
Which with which they fell in love with after seeing half of meet me in st
Louis at a displaced person's camp and leopold claims to hear voices from the spirits
Of children left to die of plague back when the pool
Wow palazzo
Uh was an orphanage which are the same voices perot has been hearing the spirits are said to haunt and kill any doctors
Or nurses who set foot within it?
When the guests come across an underground chamber containing the skeletal remains of the dead children leslie suffers a panic attack and nearly
Kills maxine he is locked inside the music room to recover rowena giving perot the only key
After examining maxime's invitation perot deduces oliver sent it and is conspiring with vitale
Vitale who investigated alicia's death gave joyce private details while albert had hoped to use perot's ink
ink
In capability of explaining the supernatural as a plot for her next book
Leslie is then found sad to death
Gathering the remaining guests together perot reveals rowena is the murderer
Obsessed with keeping alicia for herself she cut her off from the contact
She cut her off from contact with maxime after learning they plan to reconcile and use small amounts of poisonous
hallucinogenic honey extracted from
You know bushless so badly
That sponsors permett in the
feast of the devil
yahh
難 invisible
e
skrt
Wen
And
yup
Over
Thank you
Ugh
to drown Perot and force Leslie into stabbing himself via the Palazzo's internal phone line
by threatening to kill Leopold, hoping to pass off both deaths as part of the children's curse.
When Perot confronts Rowena on the roof, Alicia's ghost seems to appear to them both,
pulling Rowena down off the building and into the canal where she drowns. As dawn breaks,
Perot ends his friendship with Oliver, elects not to fire Vitale or unmask his involvement in the
seance and privately exposes Leopold as the blackmailer. Leopold explains he understood
the poisoning signs his father missed, making the connection after realizing Rowena's first
starring role was in an opera whose lead character is the King of Poisons. Perot suggests Leopold
and Olga clear their consciences by using the money to help the Holland start a new life in
America after knowing the possibility of an afterlife he returns home to accept new cases.
Story
Were there any of these twists that you were able to see coming?
Honestly, no. Dude, I am so bad when it comes to murder mysteries, picking up on shit.
I feel that you could throw it literally right in front of my face and I still wouldn't pick up on it.
Granted, that's probably maybe a good thing because it makes me enjoy these a lot more
because I'm just like, what? No, I didn't see that coming at all. That actually might be a good thing
but at the same time when it's revealed, oh, because this happened, it led to this and that's
why they're the killer and all that stuff like that, I happen to be like, how the
frick did I miss that? Are you frickin' kidding me?
Yeah, I've slowly gotten better at picking that stuff out, like very, very slowly.
There were a couple things that I took of note that seemed suspicious.
Okay. I had a feeling that his friend who was played by Tina Fey, so
I'm just going to call her Miss Oliver, so Proro's friend. I had a feeling that Miss Oliver was
involved in the shadiness. I had a feeling that she was tied into Joyce, the medium, in some way.
So, I figured that they were working together. I did not see that she was actually working
together with the bodyguard. Yeah, I did not see that coming at all.
So, when that came out, I was just like, oh shit. There were some other things that
I did take note of and it's just because, part of me is because I know how they structure
mystery films. They attempt to give you the clues as you go about the film.
Yes. So, this was one that did really good at giving you the clues.
There were some that were put a little bit more out in the open, but it was when
Miss Oliver found the honey and she's like, oh, I found this honey in the
bin closet or the linen closet, right?
I think that's what she said.
Yeah. So, when she says, oh, I found this honey in the linen closet, that was something I was like,
linen closet? What the hell? Who the hell keeps honey in a freaking linen closet?
Normal people. Come on.
Yeah. So, that was something I was super suspicious of. I had a feeling that when
Perot started taking it, that there was something up with the honey.
That made me very suspicious of the mother. Oh shit, what was her name? Rowena.
I was very suspicious of her for a while. I was also suspicious because of when she
locked the doctor, Leslie, in the music room. I had a feeling that she was putting on a show.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what was happening. She put on a show of locking him in that room.
And I'm like, it's super suspicious that he's in there by himself,
like locked, and then Perot has the only key. I'm like, yeah, she's putting on a show for someone.
So, yeah, I was instantly suspicious of her. Her motivations for killing Dr. Leslie,
I did not see coming from a million miles away.
That's fair.
So, I thought that was a really nice twist. And then I'm trying to think of who else I was
super suspicious of. I wasn't super... The housekeeper, Olga, I was not very suspicious
of her at all. Even though she had some sketchy vibes about her, I'm like,
something sketchy about you, but it's not murder.
That's fair. Yeah, that's completely fair.
Anna, throughout, I kind of... It's the way that when the murder of Mrs. Williams takes place,
and Perko Perot says this classic, everyone's a suspect, no one's leaving here. And the fact
that with Tina Fey's... Sorry, I'm just going to say Tina Fey's character, because I already forgot
her name. Mrs. Oliver, how he just immediately just writes her off like, oh, yeah, you're a good
friend. I know you wouldn't do this. I'm not even thinking about that.
I'm sure a lot of people will think, oh, yeah, then that should raise huge flags that she's a suspect.
And it did for me. And honestly, it was cool to see that it turned out that she was actually working
with the bodyguard to basically have to carry out her storyline for her next book.
That was actually pretty cool to watch unfold. But you're way better at guessing these murder
mysteries than I am, because up until it was actually discovered that... Oh, yeah, no, it was
Ramona? Not Ramona. Rowena.
Rowena, thank you. It was actually proven that it was the mom that was the killer.
Like, honestly, I never would have guessed. Even though the signs were there, like you said,
with the honey linen closet, for some reason, that shit just went right over my head. Didn't
even think about that. But I mean, that really led to a great mystery. And when it was discovered
that it was Rowena, like, I'll fully admit, I'm like, what? Excuse me. I mean, I wasn't the only
one in the theater, so unfortunately, I couldn't just be like, what? I wouldn't actually do that.
Yeah. Can we just talk about freaking... So it was me in my theater experience. It was me and then
a family of four, or just like a friend group of four, that was in front of me. And literally,
throughout the whole movie, not even quietly, they were talking about, oh, I think it was her. No,
no, no, I think it was him. Did you see that clue? Did you see that clue? I'm like, shut the fuck up.
I don't care who you think it is. That is an at home experience that you have to have.
Right. Thank you. Just... Yeah, you can't freaking do that shit in theaters. That is some bullshit.
That is some bullshit. So freaking annoying. Like, oh my God. And I was in the back row.
They were like two rows ahead of me. I was in the back row and I could still hear them.
That's freaking annoying. Theater etiquette doesn't mean shit anymore. Dude, it doesn't exist.
It doesn't freaking exist. So annoying. Anyway. Dude, I'm with you. I am absolutely with you.
Luckily, I got a pretty decent screening where it was just me and like one other guy.
Oh, dude, that sounds like a dream. Yeah, but he was like in the very back row. So I was and I was
like very front or I started sitting more like closer to the screen. I usually so I usually do
too, but it was kind of like, you know how I mean, I don't know if AM or your theaters are the same
way, but like say if it's like a movie that either is it's theatrical run is like way down the line.
It's been out for a while or it's just not doing well. Cinemark will definitely put it into a
theater to where there's not like it's not like the huge amount of rows. It's only like four rows.
So with those, I usually like to be in the back just because I feel that like the like middle
where I usually like to be. That's where I usually like to sit. I feel that's still that's a little
too close for me. That's fair. That actually was the situation for me when I went to go see
No Hard Feelings. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was only like a few rows of seats. So I did sit in the back with
that one. Okay. But yeah, so when it's like a bigger theater, I usually sit or I've started
like I used to sit like way in the freaking back and then I became blind and I had to or I started
to or I started sitting a bit closer. So now I'm like I'm still like a little far back. I'm like
the the I like to sit more of the front middle. Okay, yeah, I feel it's great placement. Yeah,
a lot of I've also started sitting there because I've heard a lot of different things stating that
that that's where sound mixers will sit when they're working on the the sound for the the movie.
Interesting. They say so this is where they sit and so they basically attune the movie to
have that be like the ideal location.
All right, very interesting. Yeah, kind of an interesting little tidbit. Yeah, that's cool.
But yeah, frickin I get theater experiences are so hit and miss. It's not even funny.
Yep. And it's just it's just getting worse. It really is. It freaking sucks.
Yeah, like for they need to start doing like VR streaming. They really do like seriously.
I would pay normal ticket prices for a VR streaming. Oh, I would too. Absolutely.
That would be like my ideal world and dude and with the frickin Quest 3 that just got released,
apparently that has like a much better resolution. Really? Yeah. Like they said,
it's like a significant difference. I'll be damned. So I am very much on board with that,
especially since they start they stopped doing that. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm very much on board with that, especially since they start they stopped updating for the
the new quest or for the quest that I have. So I have I have the first one, like Quest 1.
Yeah. So the Quest 2, they're still updating. They are. OK. Yeah. And the but yeah, they just
released the Quest 3 and the Quest 3 is like their new pride and joy. So I'm going to see what it'll
take to get one of those. Because I think that'd be sick. Yeah, dude. Hell yeah. Like especially
like higher resolution, like all for that. That's just going to make our viewing experience that
much better. Dude, if they can accomplish 4K on a freaking VR set. Oh, chef's kiss. Dude, if they
do that, I'm freaking done with theaters. Fair. That's fair. And I will be buying I will be buying
a pimped out freaking set of headphones where I get to experience like the the magic of surround
sound with 4K. Are you kidding me? Well, I would never again, never again. Yeah. Fair enough, man.
Fair enough. But yeah, so getting back on track with the story, I feel like it was really well
paced. I feel like in other mystery movies that I've seen, they can have a span in the middle that
are usually pretty slow. But this one, I think the horror element kept me on edge enough to
keep me super invested. That's not that that's completely fair.
I will say that like out of these, wow, Kenneth Branagh, Murder Mysteries, he's, you know, the
three that he's done so far. I feel that I still like Murder on the Orient Expresses story just a
little more. But overall, this freaking great love the story in this one. I still need to see Death
on the Nile. Have you seen Death on the Nile? I have. I have seen Death on the Nile. I have seen
and I still need to see Death on the Nile. Have you seen Death on the Nile? I have not. That is
on my list of things to watch. But I kind of understand why you might be drawn to a murder
on the Orient Express. Yeah. I was thinking about that a lot. I think part of it's maybe because
it's an unconventional conclusion to the murder mystery where it's not just one guilty party.
All of them were guilty. Yeah. And I freaking love that. Yeah. I think it was just it was trippy
enough to be like, yo, what? Yeah. Right. Love that shit. Yeah. So I think that was part of it.
And then here it's it does have a very like it does have twists, but not as big of a twist as
that. Yeah. Where it's like, oh, it's back. It's kind of like more of a I wouldn't say a let down.
It's just more like, oh, yeah, I guess just one person versus like, what was it? Twelve?
I think so, which honestly, I'm glad that I mean, I know this is a loose adaption of an Agatha
Christie book, which I forget what the book is. It's so it's a loose adaption of Agatha Christie's
Halloween party. So I mean, I never read that, but I'm kind of glad that it was just one killer
because I feel like. I don't know, I feel that they would hold the everyone's guilty thing again,
it would have cheapened. It honestly would have. And like, I feel that like everyone's guilty only
works for I feel it only worked for murder on the Orient Express. And I don't know, like, like,
I don't know how it goes with death on the Nile for who or how many people actually did it.
But just for this one, it felt right that it was just one person. Yeah, it absolutely did.
So where are you sitting with story?
Like overall, like really good story, Hercules Perrault, his way of the way that he
become the way he is a detective in all in not only this, but all these these movies is just so
intriguing and the way that he goes through just to find all of the evidence, the motives is just so
friggin good. And I love watching it. So. I think I'm going to be at an 82.
That's not bad. I might be a little bit higher than you, though. That's fair. I'm going to be
sitting at like an 86. OK, I thought this had really good flow. The twists and turns were
were fantastic. And I think I enjoyed it enough. Keeping in line with with like what I said, like
it didn't like reveal any clues that were like total bullshit clues where it's just like,
yeah. Like, oh, I noticed like this specific dirt on your shoe, like freaking shut up.
Like it was all clues that we could have caught and we could have followed along with.
If we were smart. Which did we not? Yeah, we'd be a pretty shitty team of detectives. Caleb,
Caleb definitely would be better than me. But I don't know if we would be as I know that we
would not be good as as good as her. Dude, not even close. I would have been that that dumb ass
that would have like heard like, oh, I found honey in the linen closet. That's weird. Can I have some?
And I still would have drank it like that's a weird place to find honey.
Why does it taste funny? I guess it's probably nothing. And then dead.
Yeah. And then it's just like. Yeah. And then later on the roof tea that makes or
honey that makes me feel weird and weird bees. Interesting.
And then again, once again, totally overlooked it.
Oh, shit. Like it's shit that I would have noticed, but not been able to put together.
Yeah, that's funny. It's like honey bees. What? Like you sound like a DIYer.
Yeah. Frickin in the moment, I wouldn't have been able to put it together like that. It's just stuff
that I was just like, that's weird. And then just like couldn't place. Yeah. All right. Moving on
over to writing. I felt this was a pretty solid script. I agree. I feel that I mean, I don't know
if Kenneth Branagh wrote this wrote the script as well. Does it say?
It says that Michael Green wrote the screenplay. Okay. Okay. I guess makes sense. Yeah. Honestly,
I feel that the writing here was just as strong as his other as the other murder mysteries that
Kenneth Branagh has done. I don't know if should already forgetting his name. If Michael Green did
the other two as well. But honestly, I feel that the writing was strong, really, really strong here.
I don't know what it is. Maybe I mean, it's been a little bit since I've seen it. But I felt though
that Hercule kind of not took a backseat in this one. Not didn't take a backseat, but it felt like
he was more involved in the other ones that I've seen. Or is that just me?
I wouldn't necessarily say that he wasn't involved or like kind of took a background part.
I just expected to see him a lot. Okay, maybe I'm losing my mind. No, because he was very,
was very present. I don't know what the hell I'm talking about here. Yeah, disregard what I just
said. I'm going to shut up now. I think what you what you might be getting at, and I absolutely
agree with you, is that he in the previous movies, it was very much following him. It didn't,
it didn't like cut away to the other characters nearly as much.
That's true. Because like up until the part when you know, like the murder happens of Mrs. Williams,
and then you know, he starts, he goes back to being a detective and you know, really gets
into it, of course, it, I don't know, it didn't feel like a Hercule Perot movie until that point.
It felt like he took a sideline to his own movie, or that he took a he took a freaking
back burner to his own his own movie.
Yeah, I think that was part of it too, because it like it's this man who what he's been like one of
the best detectives in the world, kind of like getting back on the horse. Yeah, I think maybe
that's why it took a bit of a slower start is because it was like him like refinding himself
as a as a detective. Okay. I get that. Okay. It did pick up like halfway through.
That is true. I will I will fully admit like the first like 20 minutes were kind of a little slow
for me. Yeah. It not not that it it I had a hard time it had a hard time keeping my attention.
It's just I was kind of like, okay, can we kind of get to the murder mystery? Like, can we just
if someone already die? Yeah, can we get to the detective thing? Because that's what makes these
that's what makes these movies enjoyable. Yeah. Unfortunately, with this one, I think I'm going
to have to go lower than my stories grade. I honestly agree. For me, I'm not it's I don't feel
that I've gone down to 70s. I still feel that isn't it is in the 80s. Because, like when we
actually get to the murder mystery part, it is way too much. It's like, it's like, it's like,
the murder mystery part. It is well written. It feels it reminds me why I enjoy these movies
as much as I do. I know I haven't seen Death on the Nile, but I freaking love Murder on the
Orient Express. And I really enjoyed the writing in this one as well. So I'm going to be at a solid
80 writing. I'm probably going to drop down about as much as you did. I'm going to be I'm going to
sit like an 83. All right. I was thinking 84, but it just fell a little high. No, dude. Really get it.
Yeah. All right. Next up, we got acting. So going through this cast real quick. First up,
we got Kenneth Branagh, who played Hercule Perot. We have Tina Fey, who played Ariane Oliver.
We have Kelly Riley, who played Rowena Drake. Michelle Yao, who played Mrs. Reynolds.
We have Ricardo Scamarsio, who played Vitaly Portfolio. We have Jamie Dornan, who played
Dr. Leslie Ferrier. Ferrier, however you want to say that. We have Jude Hill, who played Leopold
Ferrier. Camille Cotton, who played Olga Seminoff. Emma Laird, who played Desdemona Holland.
Ali Khan, who played Nicholas Holland. Kyle Allen, who played Maxime Girard and Amir El-Masri,
who played Alessandro Longo, which I'm just realizing that he was only at the beginning
and at the end. Oh, yeah, it's true. He was. Yeah, but I like this character enough. The
the fricking the fact that his bodyguard just fricking flipped him right into the
fricking lake off the fricking bridge. Dude, I will I will say this.
Something that did kind of set off a bit of a red flag for me was that he that someone that die hard
like being a bodyguard, like to a to a point where he is going to throw someone into a river
is going to like buy into this rando person being like, oh, I'm an old friend.
Yeah, I do. Right. I mean, I guess that she goes, oh, I knew that he I knew you'd say that. So I
brought this. And he's like, oh, you know, like he said that that was like the sign or like
that he knew he would bring that or some shit like that. But still, I definitely agree with you there.
Yeah, it just like if set off like a a series of thoughts in my mind where I'm like,
OK, homeboy needs to like figure out what the hell he's doing because he just threw someone into a
lake or a river for this exact thing. Yeah. So it seems real suspicious that he's buying into this.
And then it didn't like click until later when peros just like pointed out the same shit.
And I was like, I knew it. I knew it. You're doing shady shit.
Oh, shit. Yeah. So what's your what's your top three looking like?
Top three. I think. I think number three, I'm going to give to Camille Cotten. Loved her
performance. She was fantastic as Olga. She was fantastic as a
Cotten. Loved her performance. She was fantastic as Olga. And especially that scene where, you know,
her cue is having his one on one with all the victims and, you know, just just everything that
she's telling him is honestly like I feel not only a great care, it's a great character moment for her.
And I feel that that that scene just solidifies like, yeah, she's not the killer. Like
there's no way. And even if you guys like even if it turned out she was, I bet that's bullshit.
You only did that to like be surprised, like make it a huge surprise because
I could never see her character doing that. I'm with you, dude. I didn't suspect her whatsoever.
I'm like something about you is like a little dark, little shady. Yeah. But it's not this.
Yeah. You're not a murderer. Yeah. Like if there's anything about you,
it's like maybe there's some shady dealings on the side, but nothing not yet. This unrelated.
Number two, I will give to Tina Fey who played Ariadne Oliver. Fantastic. Loved her performance.
Her relationship with her cue. Honestly, it actually like you could definitely tell that
there was tension in their friendship. It still felt like they actually did care about each other
up until the end. So I actually really enjoyed watching them work together throughout the movie.
And honestly, I don't remember seeing one. Maybe I did see a trailer for this. I'm sure I did,
but I don't remember like any of the advertisements or anything. I didn't even look at the poster
really before I went and saw this movie. So when I saw Tina Fey on screen, I'm like, wait, what?
Tina Fey. I was I was genuinely genuinely surprised that Tina Fey was the most,
but it was freaking awesome because she did a great job. Yeah.
But number one. Oh, sorry. I don't know if Tina Fey.
She's one of those actresses. I don't know. I have a hard time considering her like
a good actress. Like, damn, like, listen, she she's good enough to like make the movie watchable.
OK, there's no argument about that. She can't do character work for shit.
She like every movie she's in, she plays Tina Fey.
Damn, the guy's got a point.
Yeah, I mean, it's the same issue as like some other bigger, bigger name
people, and it's usually comedians that are like this. Yeah, they can't do comedic work for shit.
You know, fair enough.
Not not comedic. I meant character work. They can't do character work for shit.
All right. That she's just one like I don't think I've ever seen her in a role
where I've been like, oh, my gosh, like she really brought her a game. I'm like,
yep, that's Tina Fey for you. You know, to show man to show.
But I'm sorry, I'm still sticking with her for number two. I got to.
Stand by it.
But number one, I definitely got a gift to Kenneth Branagh, her kill parole. Once again, fantastic.
I maybe I don't know, maybe he's just seeing it on the big screen. His mustache is a little distracting.
His mustache is a beautiful thing, you heathen.
It's OK. Maybe it's not the mustache. It's the little not soul patch. But what do you know what
this is called down here below your lip like this? Your soul patch. It is your soul patch. Oh, my bad.
That OK, it wasn't the mustache. It was that that distracted me.
I don't know why, but that just for some reason distracted me in some parts of the movie. But
looking past that, we have that and like he's had that, though, right? I think so. But for some
reason here, it was like more prominent to me. And it's just it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's
kind of like took me out a couple of times. But once again, he is fantastic in this role.
I love him so much in this role. The way that his character just goes about solving
these who done mysteries is just great. I love his thought process. It's absolutely fantastic.
and Kenneth Branagh just absolutely amazing job.
So, yeah, you got it.
Got to give number one to Kenneth Branagh.
I absolutely agree with you on that.
Kenneth Branagh definitely deserves the number one.
My number two.
I'm probably going to give to Kelly Riley,
who played Rowena.
I felt like she
she gives such solid performances in terms of like.
I mean, I haven't I've never watched Yellowstone,
but I know in Yellowstone, she kind of plays someone that's like
usually drunk a lot, excuse me, and she very much like can.
And she plays that role very well.
I feel like it's hard to like
walk that line of being like a good actress or like being good at playing
drunk or high or whatever the case may be.
Just off, it is more like it.
I think she does a really good job of just playing off.
And so that's kind of what was what was there for me.
Like something was just unsettling about her and
really like added to her performance.
So I freaking loved what she was able to do with her character.
I absolutely agree.
Yeah. And then my number.
Three.
Just to.
Like, keep it in line with what you were saying.
Let me see if I can find her.
I'm going to give to Camille Cotton as well.
Oh, yeah.
But Tina Fey Tina Fey is like up there.
She's she's definitely top five.
OK, but I can't put her in the top three.
I do completely get it.
Yeah, but I'm curious, is Michelle Yeo in the top five?
Michelle Yeo is absolutely in the top five.
I think she's my number four.
I would agree.
Yeah, she's really I freaking love Michelle Yeo, dude.
She's so good.
She's amazing.
Yeah, everything she does.
Mm hmm.
Everyone else, the whole
like the bodyguard was a bit much.
Jamie Dornan was.
Was it just me or was he hard to understand?
He was.
OK, I'm glad that I'm not the only one that had an issue.
Honestly, I had no idea that it was Jamie Dornan.
I don't know. Maybe it's just he has not a very recognizable face.
They have to sound like a dick there.
Not recognizable.
Did you not?
I mean, you had to have watched 50 Shades of Grey when we broke that down, right?
OK, yeah, that's true.
But I try to block that movie out of my memory.
So I try not to remember him that much, apparently.
OK. And so maybe I don't know, maybe I just forgot what he looked like.
And so like when the credits started rolling on my.
Whoa, what?
That was Mr. Gray himself.
Yeah.
I will say this, the the kid, Jude or Jude Hill, he.
He gave a friggin baller performance.
He did.
Yeah, he was really freaking good.
Yeah, so major.
Yeah, if any like.
If anyone was threatening
Tina Fey's number five position in my book, it's this kid.
That's fair.
That's that's completely fair.
What do you think of the siblings?
The siblings ran.
Yeah, I felt the same way.
Like once I found out what their motivations were, I'm just like,
I could care less, bro. Oh, shit.
Yeah, but.
Yeah, their whole motivation, like I want to go like I.
Where did they want to go?
Was it? Massachusetts.
Yeah, it's Massachusetts or no, Missouri.
They wanted to go to Missouri.
Yeah, once they're just like, we want to travel to Missouri.
I'm like, yeah, you're not the frickin.
Like even stealing, that's kind of shady, but meh.
Go on.
Want actually wanting to go to Missouri.
Yeah, there's no way that your killers.
Killers go to Vegas or Florida.
Yeah, not for Missouri.
They don't go to St. Louis.
Oh, man.
I mean, I hope I mean, St.
Louis could be the serial killer
capital of the world for all I know.
Shit, knowing our luck, it is now.
All right.
Moving on over to character development.
Obviously, we kind of had to do this off of Hercules.
Yes.
So what did you think of of his growth as a?
Honestly, I thought I thought it was really good.
Watching him as someone who's retired from detective work
and then Tina Fey's character, you know,
convincing him to, you know, come back to it, you know,
bring him to this Halloween party at this supposed haunted
haunted house.
Or haunted mansion, whatever you want to call it.
And and, you know,
chaos ensues, murder ensues, and he has to get back into his detective work.
And it's clear that he hasn't missed a beat.
He. Like, I've never I don't
I think I've only watched like the the Robert Downey Jr.
Sherlock Holmes movies, so I don't really know.
A lot when it comes to Sherlock Holmes work, I haven't really.
Not only have I not read any books, but I haven't really seen
a lot of media with him.
So when it comes to like detectives and like this kind of like detective work,
old school, like who done it kind of stuff, I love it.
And I feel that Hercules Perot is my favorite
when it comes to this kind of stuff.
So, yeah, just seeing him get back into the back into the swing
of things, not missing a beat and leading up to when he discovers who it is.
And then that gets him back into detective work is it's
I wouldn't say it's like huge character growth because he literally is
he's retired and then comes back into it.
And so I feel like.
I so neither of us have seen death on the Nile.
I have a feeling that he's been in the Nile
and it's a big thing for me to watch when he was retired.
I watched the death on the Nile.
I have a feeling that something happened in that that pushed him to retirement.
Yeah. And I really wish that I would have watched
death on the Nile to understand
if anything happened prior Sam here, because it did seem like he was very anti.
And then he kind of reignited his spark and passion for it with this instance.
Hey, I just read, we never put in our scores for acting.
Oh, we're friggin dumb.
Rewind.
Whoops.
Just because my top three, I'm sitting on 85.
The supporting cast definitely like kind of brings it down.
Yeah, they brought me down to like an 84.
Fair enough.
All right. Okay.
Now, back to character development.
Where are you sitting at with that?
I feel that I would be able to judge this better on if I saw Death on the Nile.
But just looking at this one for his development, I feel that like it's cool,
the directions that his character goes and him getting back into the detective work at the end
and starting up his work once again.
But I don't really see that he got a lot of, he didn't really get a lot of character development.
He just went from being out of the game, getting back into the game.
So nothing really special. So like I'm at like an 80.
That's actually exactly where I was sitting too.
My average is sitting at like a 75.
But I do think this was slightly above.
It wasn't anything too special or grand.
So yeah, I think an 80 is a very solid point for this to be at.
Hell yeah.
All right. Moving on over to effects.
There weren't too many special effects.
A lot of this was done practically.
Which I appreciate because every moment when, oh my God, the daughter's name, do you remember?
Alicia.
Alicia. Whenever she is shown, especially towards the end when she pushes her,
her ghost pushes her mother off the balcony to her death.
That looked really, really good.
Dude, that was scary as shit.
Dude, right?
The freaking aesthetic that they added to her ghost just looked really, really good.
Like I'm assuming that, I mean, of course, minus the floating,
that like all of that was prosthetics.
Like they didn't really have to do anything CGI or anything.
And if that, yeah, if that's the case, it's freaking fantastic.
So like when it comes to like, like the actual like, you know, ghosts in this movie,
I think they did a really good job.
I think they did too.
And the cinematography in this, bro, was freaking beautiful.
Dude, I want to go to Italy now.
I don't know about you.
I don't care if there's a haunted house there.
I want to go to Italy.
Yeah, dude, one of the shots that stood out to me was the last one.
Dude, yeah, when it's like panning out from his office space on top.
Yeah, that was freaking stunning.
That was so beautiful.
Oh my God.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I can't get over that.
Like I freaking was just, I stayed for like, for the credits just to finish that whole sequence out.
I'm just like, bro, this is freaking sick.
Same here.
I also wanted to make sure.
And I mean, I also say because I didn't want to.
I wanted the freaking family to leave before me.
So it's also where I stayed.
Yeah, definitely fair.
But yeah, everything else, it was just like it was filmed like a horror movie.
And I really liked that where everything was was kind of like up close shots, but it wasn't like a direct angle.
It was like kind of off to the side or on under or like would kind of pan and go up, up, up above.
Like it was never just a straight on shot.
Yes, which I loved.
Yeah. And it kind of had like it very much had those like horror movie ingredients to it with that without ever having to resort to anything you'd see within those movies.
Yes.
So for someone who is a major freaking pansy, it made it very enjoyable to watch because, like I said, had those elements.
So it kept me on edge, but was enough for me to be like invested.
Yeah.
And just like it kept that tension.
But like, obviously, once it started, the movie kind of had a bit of a slow start.
Yes. Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, no real complaints here. Like I even think the the scene where the medium gets basically skewered by the statue, like that was pretty great.
Yeah, that looked really good.
Yeah. So no, no real complaints here.
Like this is probably a high point for this film.
Agreed.
Where are you sitting at?
I think I'll be sitting at like a 92.
I'm sitting around an 89.
Okay.
I don't think it's quite crack 90s for me as good as it was.
Yeah.
It's just I don't think it was quite in the 90s for me.
That's completely fair.
All right. Next up, we got music.
So what were your thoughts on on the soundtrack?
I mean, with this kind of movie, you're not going to get like, you know, like a famous pop song or, you know, like a toe tapping musical number.
You're going to get I feel a really good score that emulates certain scenes, makes them more tense, even more terrifying.
And so I feel that when it came to the moments that music really needed to prove a point, I feel that this soundtrack delivered nothing.
It was I feel it was nothing special, but it still did a really good job of like hyping up the tension.
Totally agree with you there.
Yeah, nothing really. I've been trying to wrecking my brain about it.
It's also been a minute since I seen this movie, obviously, within the past couple of weeks.
But still, like it's I had I would I went through the the playlist today and just like re-listening everything and nothing really like stood out.
It was a very average soundtrack, but it kind of stands a little high just because it accentuates the scenes.
Yeah. So honestly, I'm around a six or seven. I'm going to say probably six, six.
OK, I'll give you six. All right. Last up, we got costumes.
I feel these are really solid. These were bad.
Yeah, I feel that they fit the time period very well, especially I mean, I know it's not in a lot of scenes, but the the robe and well, I guess.
OK, so when they first get to the mansion and, you know, you know, it's Halloween, they're throwing this Halloween party and like I feel like some of the masks that the kids were wearing were frickin awesome.
Like, I love that shit. And especially the the mask that Michelle Yow's character was wearing with, you know, the black robe and she puts it over Puro just to like kind of loosen him up.
That looked really frickin cool. So like I feel for like the amount of like cool ass masks that I saw in this movie that definitely bumps my score up at least a little bit.
But I feel for like, you know, just like regular costumes did a really good job of presenting what time period it was from.
Of course, nowhere, nowhere throughout the movie did I think, oh, no, this that they're they're totally in the night.
They're totally in the 2000s. No, they did a great job with costume showcase and that this was the 1940s.
Yeah, they they did a very solid job with that.
So where does that end up pushing you?
That pushes me to an eight. I if you're feeling a seven, I could easily do that. But honestly, if we if we did half points, I'd be sitting at like a seven and a half.
Okay, so I can definitely give you that eight. Okay, awesome.
All righty. Last up, we got our own personal score.
So I'll take this one because I think your thoughts are a little bit more interesting than mine.
Overall, I had a really fun time with this film. I felt like it did everything correct, like how it how it should have other than the beginning kind of given us a slow start.
I do feel like maybe that could have been improved on a little bit.
But is honestly, I feel like I have a feeling my my feelings will change on that once I see death on the Nile.
But we can't I can't really judge that like because this is like for me, it's a standalone is very much a standalone.
So I had a good time. It was one that I was really afraid that it was going to go like a very heavy handed horror out.
I'm very glad that it didn't. I am a major coward when it comes to horror movies.
So I was able to sit through and watch it and have no issues, but I still had that that intensity that I have when I watch a horror movie.
Like just like kind of that that pre preparation that I get before a jump scare.
I had that consistently throughout this film, so I very much appreciated that. So I will end up given this film.
Probably in eighty one. It's not bad. Yeah.
You know, honestly, I had a good time with this movie. It's definitely I do like murder on the Orient Express a little better than this one.
But that definitely doesn't detract for how this is.
This is a really good murder mystery. Kenneth Branagh not only is a good director with this once again, but he is amazing as for Kyo Puro.
The whole supporting cast for the most part, I feel did a really good job.
Just yeah, I had I had a good time. Yeah. So I.
I can't justify giving this in the 70s, so I'm just going to go a point lower than Caleb. I'm going to go in eighty.
All right. Well, with that, that concludes this week's breakdown.
Going through these scores real quick, starting off with story, we are sitting at a very sturdy eighty four.
Writing took a bit of a dive, sitting at an eighty one point five.
The acting got a pretty decent bumps jumping back up to an eighty four point five.
But then character development took another bit of a dive, sitting at an eighty.
The effects were definitely the high point of this film.
So I secretly changed it. I noticed that asshole.
I was hoping you wouldn't notice. Yeah.
Everything that you said, it definitely talked me down. Sorry.
So our effects with Rose's adjusted score ended up averaging to an eighty nine point five.
It is still the high point of this film.
The music was fairly average, but did enhance the scenes as well as they should.
So we're going to give him this a six out of ten.
Our costume score had a pretty decent bump, and that's that's part of the course for.
The timepieces. Yes.
So we ended up giving this an eight out of ten.
And then finally, our personal score ended up averaging out to an eighty point five.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for a haunting in Venice has come out to a.
But. There are.
B minus. OK. Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all. I can agree with that.
I absolutely agree with that.
I am actually curious because we did.
Or we have scored.
Murder on the Orient Express before.
So I'm interested to see where that one.
Ended up.
Well, maybe if I can freaking.
Find it.
Oh, funny enough, we did give a murder on the Orient Express higher.
Oh, OK.
Interesting is.
It's it's sitting at a B.
OK, yeah, I can definitely agree with that.
Yeah, at least for me personally.
Yeah, I. Talking at this one through, I think I'm on the same page.
Yeah, OK. Hell yeah.
Yeah, so haunting in Venice.
Where did you go? OK.
So this ended up averaging out to an eighty two point five.
So, yeah, so this actually is sitting up high enough.
So out of all of our B minus movies, which we have thirty six of,
this is sitting at our number four slot.
OK, hell yeah.
Yeah, so this is since we do.
The four above.
So this is sitting, like I said, an eighty two point five,
which puts it directly in line with Scream six.
Oh, OK. So I can absolutely agree with that.
Yeah, I yeah, I can too. I like that a lot.
Yeah, so that puts it below Gran Turismo.
Which is an eighty two point five six.
OK. It is below the remake of Mulan.
Really? OK, wow. I didn't know that Mulan's were that high.
It's super close. It's.
Yeah, it's point one percent. OK, damn.
Yeah, so it's like barely.
Let's see. It's also sitting below the greatest showman.
OK. It is sitting below Jumanji.
Welcome to the jungle fair.
And then it is sitting below violent night.
All right. Not bad.
Yeah, go in the opposite direction.
It is sitting above the hunt.
OK, it is above Chippendale rescue Rangers.
That kind of kills me.
If it makes you feel better, that's another one that it's barely above.
All right. I'll accept that.
It is above. Let's be cops.
I can accept that.
Yeah, it's above smile.
Really? Wow. OK.
Yeah. And then finally, it is above Ron's gone wrong.
OK. Not bad.
Not a bad placement at all. Yeah.
So I'm very happy with where where this ended up.
I am, too.
This is probably one of our least controversial ones that we've had,
at least in the past few weeks.
That's true. I'm pretty controversial about Chippendale.
That deserves to be higher.
Of course, you do.
All right. Well, with that, I think that wraps up this week's episode.
Yeah. So with that, I guess this has been the Albrose podcast.
If you guys have enjoyed this episode and want to listen to more of our stuff,
be sure to follow them. Subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts.
We are damn near everywhere.
You can also find us on social media.
We are at the Albrose on everything.
Facebook, Twitter or X, Instagram, Tiktok, LinkedIn, Letterbox.
Like anywhere that you can.
Any social media, I'm pretty sure you can find us somewhere.
Yeah.
So yeah, be sure to go check us out.
If you want links to everything that we do,
be sure to check out our website, which is tinyurl.com forward slash the Albrose.
And if you want to hit us up, if you want to suggest an episode for us to do,
if you want to join us for an episode or if you have like a recommendation
or whatever it may be, you want to get in contact us with us in any way, shape and form.
You can also hit us up.
You can hit us up on social media as well as our email, which is the Albrose channel at Gmail dot com.
But yeah, so next week,
I am actually going to be in Utah.
So we will actually be releasing a previously recorded episode.
Like it's still a new episode of you guys, but we recorded it like earlier this month.
So you guys will be getting that and we will be breaking down Avengers,
Age of Ultron, because we we couldn't think of a Halloween themed movie off the top of our head.
Yeah, no, but it was leading in in November.
So it's just kind of like it works.
It does. And it's an Avengers movie that doesn't get enough love.
So yeah, it is one that we have or we had previously scored.
So it's a little bit of a new thing that we attempted and.
You'll see how it is. You'll see how it is.
So, yeah, but you can look forward to that.
And until then, this has been the Albrose podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan, and we will catch you guys next time.
Doses. Oh, what the hell was that?
It's new pretty twice.
Oh, man, that was rough.
He was trying to channel his inner Herbert.
That's what he's trying to do.