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What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast, I am Jonathan.

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And I'm Caleb.

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We're a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie

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reviews out there with as little bias as possible.

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Uh, welcome to the All Bros.

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Um, so for 4k spotlight and through the wall, we got nothing to talk about.

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Um, I don't know if Caleb wants to lead on as to why, or if he just wants

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me to continue going with it.

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Oh yeah.

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I, I guess we can talk about it.

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Um, yeah.

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So we're recording this one ahead of schedule because I will be making a trip

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to Utah and as much fun as recording in my parents' house sounds, I didn't

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want to do that.

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Fair.

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Especially with your debt, especially with your dad.

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Oh, I just, I, I don't know.

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I haven't talked to your dad in years, but I just kind of have a feeling that

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you'd just be like, not like shitting on the all bros, but just being like all

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this is, this is dumb.

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What you're doing.

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Like, I don't know why you still do this.

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And where has he changed his ways?

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Does he still feel that way?

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Well, I don't know.

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We've, we, we don't ever talk about the, the, the podcast.

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All right, dude.

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I have such like, like, I have such a weird relationship in talk with

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talking about the podcast.

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Like I'll talk about it with you.

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I'll talk about it.

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I sure hope so.

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This thing, I know that's like a door, but like you'll see how this fricking relates.

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Okay.

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I talk about it with you.

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I talk about it with DJ.

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I'll talk.

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I'll shoot the shit with like Ben, Mikey T.

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Like I'll shoot the shit with them about the podcast, like all day long.

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Yeah.

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No issues about that whatsoever.

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The second anybody who doesn't have a podcast comes up and it's like, Oh, I

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listen to your podcast.

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I'm like, I want to run into traffic.

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That's you know what?

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That's fair.

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Cause like, honestly, cause I don't talk to any other people that do podcasts.

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None of my friends do shit like that.

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So like, Oh, actually I have like, you know, friends that sometimes listen to us.

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I bet.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, like really, really great episode.

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I'm listening to it right now.

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And I was like, Oh, thanks for listening.

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Like, I feel bad.

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Like every single time that Sam's just like, Oh yeah.

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You know, I caught last week's episode.

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Love, love.

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I love listening to you guys.

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Like I'm so appreciated, but I don't know what else to say besides, you know, we

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appreciate you listening.

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Thank you.

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I, I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Sam.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what Sam.

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So Sam, I feel like I could shoot the shit with about it a little bit.

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No, no.

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Like Sam is very easy to talk about the Albers with like he really is, but like

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sometimes I'm just like, I don't know what else to like say besides, uh, you know,

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Hey, you know, like, thanks for listening.

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We really appreciate it.

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But at the same time, I, I, I don't know about you, but I hate being in the

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spotlight.

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So I do too, which is weird that we're doing this.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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So when, um, yeah, when he's like, you know, I'm at work and he's like, Oh yeah.

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You know, I love listening to the all bros.

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Such a great podcast.

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I'm sorry.

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I really hope that like none of my coworkers hear this right now, because I

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don't want to have to explain what the all process to literally anybody else.

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Cause there's only a certain amount of coworkers that know about this.

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And it's like actual people that like have actually listened.

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Um, you know, stuff like that.

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Oh yeah.

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Freaking one of my buddies, Ryan slash, um, coworkers, um, he totally disagrees

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with your ranking or I guess our ranking for the Phantom Menace.

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I think he, he straight up wanted to give it a, um, don't bother.

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Well then he can start his own podcast and give it a, don't bother.

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It is not a, don't buy.

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Is he like an avid star Wars fan?

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No, he's not.

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Um, but he, he, uh, we were talking about it today and he just said that, um, once

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he can't watch it because of jar jar bangs, like freaking young, such a small

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part of it though, it just ruins it for him.

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Like he loves young Anakin and Darth Maul, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, pod racing, all

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of that stuff, but for some reason I, I gotta talk to him more about this.

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Cause I really want it.

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Like if you just skip over all the jar jar binks parts, like just, just exit

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those out, it's at least a stream it like, come on, right, dude, I don't like

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the jar jar moments either, but I like I'll freaking skip them if I'm like that

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bothered by it, like minus jar jar, the movie's freaking awesome.

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It, no, it really is.

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I don't know.

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Episode one is really, really good.

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Um, better than the last Jedi.

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Um, but yeah, it was, it was honestly really funny.

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I get a text from him, uh, cause he listened to that with, with the

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ranking and he sends me the gift of Darth Vader going, no,

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Oh, freaking great.

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Um, yeah, yeah.

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So like there's him and just a couple other coworkers that all actually

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like, like they will straight up ask like, Oh, like Ryan will be like, Oh,

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hey, what's the movie this week?

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And like, sometimes I even feel awkward talking about that.

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Cause I'm just like, uh, I do actually, are you actually like going to listen?

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Cause I don't know if I want you to, dude, nothing will make me like rethink

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or replay in my mind, like our fricking episodes faster than when Brielle sends,

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like we'll get a message from someone at church and be like, Oh, that's so and

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so listening to your podcast.

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I'm like, which one?

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Oh, like nothing freaks out more.

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Love of God.

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Tell me it wasn't an explicit one that they accidentally clicked on.

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Dude, I was so worried about that one.

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Cause, uh, she, she was telling me that someone from like a friend of hers, like

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one of her counselors was said that she listened to a show and I was like, Oh

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shit.

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And it was like right after we'd like talked about like, like sexual stuff.

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And I'm like, Oh, like which one, which one?

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And then she's like, I don't know.

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And I'm like, ask her.

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I need the deets.

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Yeah.

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And she's like, Oh, she listened to like an older one.

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I'm like, which one?

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Like we've been potty mouse since day one on this podcast.

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Yeah, dude.

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And like there's someone in my war who I, I don't think has listened to an episode,

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but she, she's asked me a couple of times about the show.

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Oh God.

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And she's just like, what exactly is a podcast?

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And I'm like, I, I can't, I can't get into this.

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Conversation with you.

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And I know she hasn't listened to the show because like I, I went because like she

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keeps talking about it.

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Like, Oh, like I'm going to listen to one of these days and like, don't, but she, I

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know she hasn't because when I, she was helping someone move and like recruited me.

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And so I was helping them move and everything.

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And she was like, super careful about avoiding using any like cuss words.

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And I'm like, she's like, like she would let one slip, but she'd be like, she'd say

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like, Oh, like, damn.

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And I'm like, and she's like, Oh, sorry.

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I like, I don't mean to like, to cuss like this.

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I usually like, I'm such a potty mouth and I'm just like, OK.

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I'm like, damn is probably the.

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The like the nicest word I'll say in a day, Sam.

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Yeah, yeah, like, but yeah, like so anyone outside of the podcasting community, it's

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like exception, like very exceptional for you. It is like I can talk about the.

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All right. I can't talk about the show with them or just like the ins and outs

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because it feels so awkward.

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It it does. It really does.

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Yeah. But then like anyone within the community,

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like I was actually talking to someone about the podcast and then like it was super

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awkward, like it felt really weird and like like I was like having like an awkward

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moment. And then he brought up that he had one and I was like,

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oh, and like all of those feelings just gone, like vanished.

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I'm like, so you get it. Yeah.

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I feel the person that I'm a little indifferent with is my buddy Michael,

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because like he wants to start a podcast.

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He has all of the equipment ready for it.

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He just hasn't been able to.

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So I feel like out of everybody, he's like the easiest to talk to when it comes

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to the all bros, because I feel he gets it.

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He for the most part, for not for the most part, I feel he does get it.

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So if I had to like pick one out of like everybody that I talked to about the all

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bros, no offense, no offense, Sam, love you to death.

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I feel Michael is the one that's like it's probably the easiest to talk to him

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about the albers.

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That's fair. Someone who's on that journey.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. Talk him into it.

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Tell him he'll tell all will invite him.

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Deal. OK, deal.

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What was I going to say?

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He asked I'm trying to get him on for the Five Nights at Freddy's episode,

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because he's a huge, huge fan out fan.

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Do fingers cross him?

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Yeah, let's freaking make that happen.

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Are you listening, Michael and Becky, possibly?

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Both of them. How the hell did we get off topic this much?

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I don't know.

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We haven't even like had like the intro to our episode.

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That's true. That's true.

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Anyway, so yeah, so that's why we don't have any through the wall or for a spotlight.

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So we'll be jumping right in to our headliner of the evening,

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which will be our breakdown of Avengers, Age of Ultron.

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So, Caleb, what do you say we get started?

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Say let's do it. All right.

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So getting into our breakdown of Avengers, Age of Ultron, Caleb,

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would you like to let me know?

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I would love to hear from you.

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I'm going to be doing a little bit of a breakdown of the Avengers,

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Age of Ultron, and then we'll be getting into our breakdown of Avengers,

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Age of Ultron.

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Caleb, would you like to let everybody know how we break down movies on this podcast?

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I would love to.

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If you're new to our breakdown system,

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we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to

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come to a final All Bros letter grade.

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The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting,

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character development, effects, music, and

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costumes, and then we give our own personal score at the very end.

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All of these numbers get magically added up and split through our algorithm

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and give us a final All Bros letter grade to compare this movie

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to others of a similar grade.

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This one's going to be a little bit on the different side

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because. I don't know, like if if you've heard any of our

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like previous rankings, Avengers, Age of Ultron is one that is in our

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ranking list.

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But we've never done an episode about it.

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This was actually one where we were doing like an experimental thing

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where we were going to try releasing posts.

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Like it basically it was like the recommendation before we like

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because we were releasing like the the movie and then the individual scores

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and then saying, like, oh, this is what it's.

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Well, we gave it or whatever.

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So we we we ranked or we

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we scored it and everything like all that was was good and wonderful.

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But yeah, we've never done like an official episode on it.

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So the way that this is going to be different is we already have our scores.

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Like we know what this is,

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what the letter grade is.

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So, yeah, we have we have the scores and so we're just going to like talk about them

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because we still got a lot to say.

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Oh, yeah. But yeah.

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So with that, we can get right into this.

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This episode, so hell, yeah.

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If you have not seen Avengers, agent Ultron,

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you've had plenty of time to do so, but eight years exactly.

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Yeah. So we are.

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Yeah, if we spoil it for you.

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Sucks to be you.

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But yeah, Rose is about to spoil the entire thing for you.

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In our favorite segment that we like to call reading with Rose.

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One of these days I went like I wish that they would give

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like an animation feature so I could like have sparkles and delete.

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That would be cool. I'm not going to lie.

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It's cross one day.

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All right.

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In the Eastern European country of Socrates,

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the Avengers, Tony Stark, Thor.

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OK, you know what? I'm just going to call them by their superhero names.

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Let's let's rewind this.

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OK, in the Eastern European country of Socrates,

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the Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, the Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye

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raid a Hydra facility commanded by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker,

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who has experimented on humans using the scepter previously wielded by Loki.

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They meet two of Strucker's

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test subjects, Twins Pietro, who has superhuman superhuman speed,

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and Wanda Maximoff, who has telepathic and telekinetic abilities

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and apprehend Strucker while Stark retrieves Loki scepter.

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Stark and Banner discover an artificial intelligence within the scepter's gem

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and secretly decide to use it to complete Stark's Ultron global defense program.

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The unexpectedly sentient Ultron,

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believing he must eradicate humanity to save Earth,

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eliminates Stark's A.I. Jarvis and attacks the Avengers at their headquarters.

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Escaping with the scepter, Ultron uses the resources in Strucker's Sokovia base

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to upgrade his rudimentary body and build an army of robot drones.

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Having killed Strucker, he recruits the Maximoffs,

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who hold Stark responsible for their parents' deaths by his company's weapons

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and goes to the base of base of arms dealer Ulysses S.

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Sorry, just Ulysses Claw,

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and Johannesburg to get Vibranium.

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The Avengers attack Ultron and the Maximoffs,

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but Wanda subdues them with haunting visions, causing Banner to turn into the Hulk

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and rampage until Stark stops him with his anti-Hulk armor.

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OK, we're going to get I'm going to point this out.

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Bullshit.

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OK, I'm going to because this like definitely is like adds to the writing score.

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The fact that when Wanda is doing this and she's doing this,

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Wanda is doing this and they let Hawkeye basically just frickin turn around

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and slap an arrow right onto her forehead and just be like,

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I've done the whole mind control thing. Not a fan.

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I literally just want to stand up, be like, damn right, you have.

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You're not doing it again.

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You actually have to be frickin Hawkeye in this movie.

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That made me so happy, dude.

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I was so scared when we first saw this movie.

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I was like, God damn it, he's going to get mind controlled again.

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But no, they they frickin pulled that and I was so happy.

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God, I mean, oh, my God, I love that part so much.

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Yeah, that's some good shit right there. Right.

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Oh, I loved it.

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All right.

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A worldwide backlash backlash over the resulting destruction

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and the fears Wanda's hallucinations incited send the team into hiding

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at Barton's farmhouse.

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Thor departs to I guess I since I said the superhero names,

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I should say that's Hawkeye for anyone doesn't who doesn't know

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that Clint Barton is Hawkeye.

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Thor departs to consult with Dr.

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Eric Selvick on the apocalyptic future he saw in his hallucination

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while Nick Fury arrives and encourages the team to form a plan to stop Ultron.

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In so see.

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I hope I said that right.

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Is a seal. Yeah, it's so so OK.

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Ultron uses Loki Scepter to enslave the team's friend,

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Helen Show, the user synthetic tissue technology,

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vibranium and the scepters gem to craft a new body.

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As Ultron uploads himself into the body, Wanda is able to read his mind,

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discovering his plan for human extinction.

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The the Maximoff's turn against Ultron Rogers, Romanoff and Barton.

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You know what? I actually really regret

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actually reading off their names as superheroes because this guy

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just literally goes by their names throughout the rest.

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Damn it. OK, my bad. Sorry, guys.

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One of these days, you're just going to have to write your own.

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Yeah, seriously.

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So what? So for people that don't know, this is going to, you know,

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I just want to make sure that people know Iron Man is Tony Stark.

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Captain America, Steve Rogers, Thor's Thor, Bruce Banner is the Hulk.

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Clint Barton is Hawkeye and Natasha Romanoff is Black Widow.

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So when I say those names, there you go.

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That's who they are.

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Um, we just turned this into learning with Rose to. Uh, OK.

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Rogers, Romanoff and Barton fight Ultron and retrieve the synthetic body,

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but Ultron captures Romanoff.

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The Avengers fight among themselves when Stark and Banner secretly upload

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Jarvis, who is still working after hiding from Ultron inside the Internet

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into the synthetic body.

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Thor returns to help activate the body based on his vision

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that the gem on its brow is the mind stone, one of the six infinity stones,

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the most powerful objects in existence.

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This vision earns their trust by the by being worthy of lifting

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Thor's hammer Mjolnir vision and the Maximoff's go with the Avengers

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to Sokovia, where Ultron has used their maiden vibranium to build a machine

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to lift a large part of the capital city skyward,

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intending to crash into the ground to cause global extinction.

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Banner rescues Romanoff, who awakens the Hulk for the battle.

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The Avengers fight Ultron's army while Fury arrives in a helicopter

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with Maria Hill, James Rhodes and shield agents.

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God damn it. And shield agents to evacuate civilians.

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Peter dies when he shields Barton from gunfire and a vengeful

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Wanda abandons her post to destroy Ultron's primary body,

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which allows one of his drones to activate the machine.

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The city plummets with Stark and Thor overload the machine

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and shatter Ultron's primary body, which allows one of his drones.

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Wait, God damn it. Five.

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Wow. Sorry. Okay. So.

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Let's wow. Okay. Let's let's start over. Okay.

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All right. Here we go.

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Peter dies when he shields Barton from gunfire and a vengeful

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Wanda abandons her post to destroy Ultron's primary body,

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which allows one of his drones to activate the machine.

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The city plummets with Stark and Thor overload the machine

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and shattered the land mass in the aftermath.

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The Hulk, unwilling to endanger Romanoff by being with her,

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departs in a Quinjet while Vision confronts and destroys Ultron's last remaining body.

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Later, with the Avengers having established a new base run by Fury,

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Hill, Cho and Selvig, Thor returns to Asgard to learn more.

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Learn more about the forces he suspects have manipulated recent events.

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As Stark leaves and Barton retires, Rogers and Romanoff

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prepare to train new Avengers, Rhodes, Vision, Sam, Wilson and Wanda.

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In the mid credit scene, Thanos dons a gauntlet

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and vows to retrieve the Infinity Stones himself.

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I struggle hardcore with that one.

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Wow. Yeah.

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I mean, we got through it.

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That's it. Just makes me sad because like this is the Avengers movie out of the four

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I've seen the most times, like I can't even count on many times I've seen age of Ultron.

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So that's just I don't know that that makes me sad.

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I feel I feel I feel defeated.

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So there's one point that.

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Well, getting into this, like starting off first, like we usually do.

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Yeah, we're going to start off with with story, which,

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like I said, we've already put in our scores for this.

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So we have actually ended up we ended up giving the story for Age of Ultron in 80,

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which I think is pretty on track with this last rewatch.

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No, I can agree.

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I watched this about a week ago again, and I feel the biggest problem this movie has

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is they threw so much at Joss Sweden that he needed to set up for future movies

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that I feel that he definitely just wanted to tell another Avengers movie where it's

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just the six Avengers, you know, working together, saving saving the day.

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That's why. And of course, I know he wanted the Max Moffs in there as well and work that in.

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But, you know, just having, you know, to talk about, you know, the the the the the the

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talk about, you know, the the Mind Stone, bringing up the all of the Infinity Stones.

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I feel that there's definitely clearly some plot points that like Kevin Feige was probably like,

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OK, we need these. This needs to be explained in the movie.

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So the the next because this way Ant-Man capped off phase two, right?

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Yes. OK, so I'm and I feel Ant-Man didn't really have a huge of

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didn't really set that much up for phase three, but I feel Age of Ultron had to.

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So I I feel that this this sequel, it's it has so much to do that, unfortunately,

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it kind of bites off a little more than it can chew, which is unfortunate because

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like the I love the first Avengers so much.

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So like, don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the sequel, like freaking like to death because of

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Hawkeye actually gets a freaking backstory in this movie and just I was so happy with

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everything that they did with Hawkeye in this movie. But it just felt I don't know what this

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movie it felt like there was too much to accomplish. And unfortunately, some things

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some things had to suffer because of that. It absolutely did.

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Honestly, I don't think. That Ultron should have been a one off like he ended up being.

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Absolutely agree. This was supposed to be like the biggest issue I had with this story

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is like with the title where it's the age of Ultron, the age of Ultron ended up last in like

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a solid weekend, maybe straight up. And we should just call that Avengers Weekend at Ultron's. Yeah.

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That's what we should have called. That's exactly what it should have been called.

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Should have been called Ultron, I think should have been. I don't even know how they

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how they would have handled. Age of Ultron, this this is probably one where I would have

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been OK if they split Age of Ultron into two parts.

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Yes, absolutely. So that I do have a question for you. So, yeah, if we're wanting, you know,

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Ultron to have a way bigger presence, you know, not just be a one off villain. Would you have

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saved Thanos for later or would you have still continued

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with how they set him up in phase three leading into Infinity War and Endgame?

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OK, like I please note what I'm about to say has not been fully like fleshed out. This is just like

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off the top of my head. All right. So the way that I would have handled this

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is at least in terms of like how the movies go.

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Or how I would have altered the movies a little bit. I would have turned

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Iron Man. I would have turned Iron Man three into the introduction of Ultron.

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As as a as the suit of our suit of armor around the world situation. OK. All right. I like that.

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So that's so that's how I would have introduced, because at the end of Iron Man three,

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because like I don't even remember what we get at the end of like Iron Man three in terms of like the

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in credit. But this is what I would have done. I would have had Iron Man three like most of phase

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one and I would have had play out exactly the same. So Iron Man two Avengers like exactly the same.

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Was Dr. Strange after? Hold on. I need to look up our list real quick.

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OK. So Iron Man up until. Yeah, Iron Man two Avengers. Same Thor.

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I don't have this in order. All right. Hold on.

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Yes. So sorry. So the post credit scene. So it looks like there was not a.

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It looks like there was just one in credit scene for Iron Man and literally was just that where

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he's fricking talking the banner and it's like a therapy session. That's right.

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OK. So now I OK, I have this list up now. So phase one was Iron Man Hulk, Iron Man two Thor

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Captain America Avengers. Keep it the same. OK. Nothing wrong with that.

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Iron Man three. I would have turned into the introduction to the Iron Man three

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and I would have turned into the introduction of Ultron at the end of the movie.

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So like I still have that play out the same where he's taking on the the the Mandarin

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and he blows up all his suits. And once he blows up all his suits, that gives him the idea to create

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the suit of armor around the world and creates the AI Ultron.

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And then then you could tell you could still tie in Hulk cameo where like show him and

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Banner working on a new AI calling it like Project Ultron. Thor the Dark World.

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Just erase it. OK, I would love to, but I can't.

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Thor the Dark World, I would have finished off with an Ultron cameo.

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OK, so have the multiple suits or multiple like centuries of.

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Of. Ultrons like I would I'd have a like look like Iron Man's about to come out.

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Iron Man's about to come in, but then it's like, boom, like landing on the floor.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom. And like have a bunch of things like land on the on the ground in London

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helping clean up. OK, and then that that's also Ultron Winter Soldier.

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I would have kept the same Guardians. I would have kept the same.

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Then Age of Ultron, I would have split into two different movies.

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So the first movie I would have like just kind of tying in like Age of Ultron a little bit.

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I would have kept it the same where Ultron gets like infected with the the Mind Stone

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and becomes sentient. And then that's when he he turns against.

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Like the Avengers. But yeah, I would have had like.

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I would have had his army already kind of spread out all around the world.

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And where at the end of Age of Ultron, there's still like the Avengers are in a situation

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where they're unable to.

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Where it's where the world's kind of become a police state by like under Ultron's command.

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And he's still like working up towards like the the like a body.

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So at the so yeah, at the end of like the age of Ultron, part one, it would have been

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like the world is just in complete and utter chaos because it's like the

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world is just in complete chaos because there's like conflict within the Avengers

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because of what Tony and Bruce did.

466
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:30,000
In creating Ultron, so there's kind of like a little rift and they try to like they kind

467
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,760
of go off on their own little adventures.

468
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,800
So like Thor goes off to like because he he's like sensing like or whatever the hell was

469
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,680
he sensing like the the mind stone and everything like within Loki's scepter.

470
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,000
OK, and like he goes on his his journey.

471
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,680
You could expand on it a bit more.

472
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Cap goes with Widow and Hawkeye to his compound like and then.

473
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Like Banner and Tony.

474
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360
Are kind of off doing their thing, so it's like.

475
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,160
So it'd be like an introduction to sentient Ultron.

476
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,240
And then you get the.

477
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Like under police state, like under like the whole world is just kind of under Ultron's

478
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,160
thumb.

479
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:32,480
And then part two would be him like pushing for this perfect body creating.

480
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Vision.

481
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,920
And then obviously, like big battle, he gets defeated.

482
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,320
But I think the like age of Ultron needed to be longer than a frigging weekend.

483
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,840
Like it needed to be.

484
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,640
I would have had this split over like.

485
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Timeline wise, maybe a frickin a year.

486
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Yeah, maybe a year is a little long.

487
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,000
I don't know, man.

488
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Less than less than a year, more than six months.

489
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680
All right. OK. Yeah.

490
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,640
And then like.

491
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,560
And then like so the way that that that that would conclude is like, yeah, big battle

492
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Sokovia fall like I would have kept most of that stuff.

493
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Same thing with like the twins.

494
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,920
I would have had them not turn like I would have had them be part of Ultron's plan at

495
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
the end part one and then.

496
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,880
Defeated are then switched to.

497
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Switch sides in part two.

498
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800
And then they helped defeat Ultron.

499
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Yeah.

500
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:45,120
And then that I think would have led much better into.

501
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,200
You know what? Now that I'm looking at this, I'd probably bump Ant-Man before age of Ultron

502
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,800
and then I'd have the age of Ultron part one and then part two.

503
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,600
I always found it weird that they finished phase two off with Ant-Man because they finished

504
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,480
phase one off with the Avengers, so shouldn't I know I've always felt that the Avengers

505
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
movie should be the cap off to a.

506
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000
You would think it's like the same with phase three.

507
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,080
They freaking finished it with far from home like that should have been the beginning of

508
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,040
phase four.

509
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Yeah.

510
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,600
No, seriously, yeah.

511
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:19,040
Yeah, sure.

512
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,560
What I say, I would have been.

513
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Yeah, so I would bump Ant-Man to face or before age of Ultron and then have part one, part

514
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,240
two.

515
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Yeah, then I would have the conclusion of that lead into Captain America Civil War.

516
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:45,600
I like that because think about that, like the world should have been the end of the

517
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,160
world.

518
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:52,240
Oh, I like that because think about that, like the world just gets out from under the

519
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,560
thumb of Ultron, right?

520
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Like basically being a world superpower created by Iron Man and the Hulk, like, yeah,

521
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Civil War makes a shit ton more sense.

522
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:06,960
Yeah.

523
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Like instead of like, oh, like Ultron tried to drop this big ass rock on the planet and

524
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,280
you guys stopped it, but it was like your creation, like I think the world needed to

525
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,200
be a little bit more pissed off at Iron Man.

526
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Fair.

527
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Like in my like Iron Man's like looked upon in like this whole system a lot less favorably.

528
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,600
OK.

529
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,240
And then, yeah, Civil War, I would have kept the same Dr. Strange volume two homecoming

530
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,440
Ragnarok.

531
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,880
I would have kept all that shit.

532
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,880
So, yeah, that's what I would have how I would have adjusted phase phase two.

533
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,520
I actually really like that.

534
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,160
That's yeah, I I got to agree, honestly.

535
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Yeah, I would have made.

536
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Yeah.

537
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:05,600
Ultron would have been a much bigger player in in this in these movies.

538
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Yeah, because it just sucks that you get such a cool villain like

539
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Ultron and you only get him for one movie.

540
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Yeah.

541
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,040
But I don't think it like.

542
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,000
I think like how this should like how it should end or how it should have ended, because like

543
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,880
I know that you kind of pulled this off with Infinity War where the Avengers lost, right?

544
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,920
In this situation, I don't necessarily think it's that they lost.

545
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,720
It's that they've just kind of all gone their own way.

546
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,760
Or they're all they're split up.

547
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,360
OK.

548
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,320
And so that's why.

549
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Age of Ultron, it like or that's why Ultron's able to take over.

550
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,760
It like become the frigging police state ruler.

551
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,000
Yeah.

552
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,720
Because the Avengers separate.

553
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,320
Yeah, makes sense.

554
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:11,360
It's like like I think Banner and Tony, like honestly, like you could probably even like

555
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,160
I would have gotten rid of the the frickin.

556
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,480
Romance between Banner and Widow completely.

557
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,800
Yeah, that just feels so out of place.

558
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:24,960
Yeah.

559
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,680
So there's a yeah, there's definitely some rewrites and who knows, possibly a whole like

560
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Avengers like a phase two rework.

561
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,240
Like Dreamcast in the future, like.

562
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Let us know.

563
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,640
Let us know if you'd like to me to flesh this out a bit more, but

564
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,200
that's that's how I say.

565
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,960
Yeah, this is like I said, this is just off the top of my head like.

566
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,440
There's some good shit, though.

567
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,480
I'm loving what I'm hearing.

568
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,600
Yeah.

569
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,840
But yeah, I think that's what would have.

570
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:06,240
Happened in my age of Ultron, it would have been a separation like there.

571
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,560
I don't think there would have been a final battle.

572
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,160
I think well.

573
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,440
How do you pull that off, though?

574
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,200
Like the only reason I have an issue with making it like a final battle that they lose

575
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:25,360
is because they I'm trying to like keep that the shock and stuff.

576
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,800
I think that's the only reason I'm not going to keep that.

577
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Does the shock and surprise is of.

578
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,920
Infinity War.

579
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,280
Like to still be relevant and not them be like.

580
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,240
In this like situ metaphorical situation, they'd be like, oh, well, they just copy

581
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,280
what they did in part one of age of Ultron.

582
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Like I still want that surprise that they lost, so I don't think it'd be like a full

583
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,320
battle, I think it'd kind of be a coming to blows situation more than anything.

584
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,680
And then it should like show like the Avengers off on their own thing where maybe

585
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,440
it becomes like an espionage thing with.

586
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,240
Widow Hawkeye and Cap.

587
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Banner and Iron Man are trying to.

588
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,920
Come up with some sort of fail safe or like come up with some sort of programming to kill

589
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Ultron and then Thor's off on his.

590
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,960
Journey of self are of like.

591
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,480
Discovery with the Infinity Stones.

592
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,880
OK, yeah, I like that.

593
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,800
I actually like that a lot.

594
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Yeah, and it's like because they're separated that they're that they're able to like.

595
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Have big problems like this, like I think what I would have done.

596
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,080
Is.

597
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,520
Like just to kind of help like sell that Hulk is wanting to like run away to a

598
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,360
different planet, because like I still keep like the like phase three intact, right?

599
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,400
Yeah.

600
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,800
Is I'd have.

601
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,680
Part of like.

602
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,720
Man, that's a lot of work.

603
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,560
Oh, man, like this just kind of silence Thor, like a ton like my idea, but.

604
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
They have like the conclusion be where.

605
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Iron Man finds out that Ultron's gathering a shit ton of vibranium.

606
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,720
Him and or he takes Banner to.

607
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:32,720
Uh.

608
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,840
Wherever the hell that they were, they weren't like.

609
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,320
In it somewhere in Africa, right?

610
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,040
Uh, yeah, have them have them try to like figure out why he's collecting all this stuff

611
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,400
and then pull the whole.

612
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,560
Black Widow shit or the Scarlet Witch thing again.

613
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,680
And have Hulk go on a complete not a rampage.

614
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Iron Man's dealing with the like trying to deal with that.

615
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,560
I would have the frickin Hulk shit go on for like a while.

616
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,360
Like a long frickin while.

617
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,480
All right.

618
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,520
All right.

619
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Um, and then.

620
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:16,000
The stuff with like cap and widow like going to Barton's place and.

621
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,520
Kind of gunk formulating a game plan and.

622
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:24,400
Attempting to go and execute it, but then getting like stopped by.

623
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,120
By ult like basically getting like captured or like withheld by by Ultron.

624
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,360
All right.

625
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,680
Um.

626
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Yeah, like I said, if you want me, if if anyone wants me to flesh this out a bit more,

627
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,200
I'd be happy to.

628
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,320
But.

629
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,720
Again, this is just top top of my head stuff.

630
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,520
I said, I love this, so.

631
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,320
Yeah, honestly, I'd I'd finish most of the phases off like at least now I'd finish most

632
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,840
phases off with two movies.

633
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Fair.

634
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Yeah, that that that's absolutely fair.

635
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,520
Yeah.

636
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,440
Like I think after that, like the first Avengers, it's like, boom, you got your origin story

637
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,640
for the Avengers.

638
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,080
That can be one story.

639
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Yeah.

640
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,880
And then it's just like.

641
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Each phase should be a lead up to one big bad one baddie.

642
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,440
Yeah, absolutely.

643
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,240
Absolutely.

644
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:29,040
Like age of or phase one was just gathering the Avengers phase two taking on Ultron.

645
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,360
Phase two taking on Ultron.

646
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
But and then phase three, you're.

647
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Leading up to Thanos finally, because you you.

648
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,720
Clued him in in the first Avengers.

649
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,160
And then here, like in this phase, like that we're in now, like they

650
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,480
need to set up a big a big bad.

651
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,880
We don't know who the hell that is.

652
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,000
Or actually, that's not true.

653
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:57,600
I was kind.

654
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:57,840
Yeah.

655
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,440
Yeah, like right now you have the buildup of to King.

656
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,520
And just like we need.

657
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,560
First off, like it was a real slow build, but.

658
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,600
True.

659
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,600
We got there like I would have started off like almost immediately.

660
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:14,560
Yeah.

661
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,560
So yeah, this man, I wish I could frickin just get in a room and like.

662
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,040
Pitch some of this shit, but.

663
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Anyway, get back to what we were talking about.

664
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,560
With what we got in this movie, not what we wish we got with this movie.

665
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,240
The story was.

666
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,400
It felt rushed and like slapped together.

667
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,800
I I absolutely agree.

668
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,200
I think like now it's like come back to me.

669
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,000
I swear that I saw in an interview, maybe it wasn't an interview, but.

670
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,920
I just saw somewhere that Joss Sweden Lake.

671
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,280
Basically, Kevin Feige said, hey, I need you to have these two things in there.

672
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,200
And you might have to take away some of what you wanted to do in this movie.

673
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,480
And he's like, okay, I can, you know, I think I can make that work, but I only.

674
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Have two things that I refuse to get rid of.

675
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,000
And it was that it was actually Bart Clint Barton's farmhouse.

676
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,680
He did not want to take away the storyline that Hawkeye gets.

677
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,480
Fair.

678
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,360
And I believe he didn't want to take away.

679
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:28,880
I think it was anything when it came to Wando and want Wando.

680
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,400
She's Wanda and P.H.

681
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Also fair.

682
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Yeah.

683
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:42,400
So those were his like two big things like, okay, I will do my best to work or I will.

684
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,800
Make work what you want me to, but I will not let those two storylines.

685
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Be taken out of Avengers two, which I yeah, I of course appreciate because the fact that

686
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,240
Hawkeye actually gets a storyline in this movie instead of getting fricking just mind

687
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:04,000
controlled for the whole movie, put a fricking smile on my face.

688
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:09,680
My my favorite superhero actually got to be himself that that made me so fricking happy.

689
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,920
I mean, with us sitting in an 80 with story.

690
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,520
Like this is just like slightly above average because like our average is seventy five.

691
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:25,440
Yeah, that's usually like our base point and then we build up from there.

692
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,880
So this is like just slightly above average in terms of storytelling.

693
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,520
And because the villain wasn't very fleshed out.

694
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:34,960
The.

695
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,760
There was a lot of like weird shit like with like what we were talking about, the romance

696
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,200
between Widow and Hulk that was just funky.

697
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Yeah.

698
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,640
Like felt very much out of place.

699
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Especially since canonically that like this is the same Hulk that's

700
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,960
that was in The Incredible Hulk that's very much in love with Betty.

701
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Yeah, that's true.

702
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,080
That is very true.

703
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:16,320
So I I had a lot of issues with this story overall, like that's more than it's saved.

704
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,480
And I can justify it to be like.

705
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,560
I can I can push it higher in my brain because I'm like, man, it would have been cool.

706
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,200
They did this.

707
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,360
And then I think about it more favorably.

708
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,680
But then I like was with the rewatch.

709
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,360
I'm just like, oh, yeah, they didn't do this.

710
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,160
They didn't do that.

711
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,400
The cool thing is, I think it's like, oh, yeah, they did this.

712
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,480
And the coolest part for me in this was the Hulk fight.

713
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,560
Hulk versus Hulk Buster.

714
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:43,280
That's fair.

715
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,240
Oh, dude, that scene is still so, so great.

716
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:47,680
Yeah.

717
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,200
Bullshit how it ended, but.

718
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,360
Fair.

719
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,440
But I mean, dude, come on, Hulk got some great punches in there.

720
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,560
Yeah.

721
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,200
So yeah, I'm I'm still fairly happy with the 80.

722
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,400
I am, too.

723
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,760
Definitely.

724
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,680
All right, moving on over to writing.

725
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,480
This was the same ballpark.

726
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Sitting at an 80, like it wasn't any better or wasn't any worse.

727
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,680
It was it was average writing.

728
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,920
I think.

729
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Because for me, it's one of my favorite lines.

730
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,480
But like for anyone that doesn't really know the comics, they wouldn't understand.

731
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,800
I at least I feel they're just like, what the hell is that?

732
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,080
I mean, there is a scene at the beginning after the whole thing.

733
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,120
After the whole fight with Strucker, because during that fight Hawkeye is hit and they

734
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,120
have to, you know, perform aid to him.

735
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:49,440
And so as he's getting healed at the Avengers compound, Banner asks Stark, oh, how's he

736
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:49,840
doing?

737
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,360
And Stark just straight up said, well, he's still Barton.

738
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,520
And Banner said, well, that's terrible.

739
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,240
And I feel for people that don't know how much of a smart ass and honestly, a jackass

740
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,280
Clint Barton is in the comics like he he's kind of a fucking asshole.

741
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,160
Like, but it's.

742
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,080
So he is.

743
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,720
But I love him for there.

744
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,920
There's a reason why he's like that's one of the biggest reasons why he's my favorite.

745
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:26,320
But unfortunately, up until, unfortunately, Renner didn't wasn't able to portray that

746
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:33,440
until Age of Ultron, because he literally barely got to show that at all in the Avengers.

747
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:39,440
So when they have that whole interaction, I'm assuming that a lot of audience members

748
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,800
were just like, wait, when you say like, oh, he's unfortunately still Barton, what the

749
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,520
hell does that mean?

750
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Yeah.

751
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,120
So, dude, I.

752
00:48:49,120 --> 00:49:01,520
I would love to see like that more of that side of Clint Barton and like just like that

753
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,760
comic accurate side, because he is like he's.

754
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:14,000
People always like talk about like the people like Captain America being like the person

755
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,640
that's going to get shit done.

756
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,080
But.

757
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:26,080
If anyone's like that, it's frickin Hawkeye, like he's the one that like before the like

758
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,040
to kick off the immortal Hulk storyline.

759
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Banner actually developed a.

760
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:44,640
Basically a projectile that would kill him if the Hulk were to like get out of control.

761
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,000
Or if like the threat of the whole quarter, get out of control.

762
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,480
He gave this arrow to Clint Barton.

763
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,120
And told him like if.

764
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Like using your best judgment, like if you ever feel like me or the Hulk are going to

765
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,560
like get out of control, like use it.

766
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,080
And he went and he's like, OK, why the hell did you come to me with this?

767
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,320
And he's like, because I know like out of anyone else in the Avengers, you're the only

768
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,120
one who will.

769
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,600
And there was like a big old frickin like.

770
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,600
Hulk had been on or Banner had been on the run for like a while.

771
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,680
So like he he gave this to him like.

772
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,320
Comic book like years prior and he.

773
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,480
So he's been holding on to this projectile for like ever.

774
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,480
And there was a situation that Banner was just like he was on the run from like everyone

775
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,080
and they found out where he was.

776
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,640
And so all the Avengers went to this this place didn't like.

777
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,720
Confronted him.

778
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,600
And he was talking about.

779
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,280
This.

780
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:04,240
He was kind of like kind of he was kind of going insane because Hulk had just become

781
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,400
a bit more powerful than he was.

782
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,640
Had just become a bit more powerful within his consciousness.

783
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,320
And so he was kind of going insane and doing these experiments that were just completely

784
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,680
reckless and.

785
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Talking about like.

786
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,760
Doing more gamma experimentation, which.

787
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,080
He had like everyone's like, well, don't you think that this is going to make Hulk more

788
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,560
powerful?

789
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,280
And they're like, and he's like, oh, no, blah, blah, blah.

790
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Like, while he's talking, the frickin.

791
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,360
Projectile comes out of a tree like right through his his head.

792
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,640
And everyone's just like, what the fuck?

793
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:53,280
And yeah, and then they go and like arrest Hawkeye and everything for murder.

794
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,000
And they're just like he was out of control.

795
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,640
And then like obviously that leads into the immortal Hulk.

796
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,880
So Hulk comes back to life and everything.

797
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,720
And there's a situation where Hulk and.

798
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,240
Hawkeye are like alone together and he almost frickin.

799
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Full of a lot Hawkeye up.

800
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:26,960
Oh, he's like, yo, like you, you told me to do this, but are like banner told him to do

801
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,000
it, but yeah.

802
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,560
That's always that one thing I've been disappointed with with the MCU, the Hawkeye and the Hulk

803
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,800
really haven't been able they really haven't had a lot of interaction with each other.

804
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,240
Yeah.

805
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:47,680
But yeah, like it was it was something that they they had talked about in like in comics for like

806
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,040
a while.

807
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,800
Like there was actually a funny enough a Deadpool comic where all the Avengers were getting

808
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,320
together for Christmas.

809
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,840
And Deadpool was like crashing the party and brought sweaters for everyone.

810
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,200
And he gave Hawkeye a sweater that's like I killed the Hulk.

811
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,120
And all I got was this stupid sweater.

812
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,320
And they're just like out.

813
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,320
Oh, that's so man.

814
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,720
Oh, that's so good.

815
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,560
Frickin hilarious.

816
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,440
But yeah, that's something that's funny.

817
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,280
That's something else that I think Marvel's neglecting.

818
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,520
Like they're building up to these team are like these big team ups, big Avengers movies.

819
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600
I feel like they're neglecting team ups.

820
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Yeah, absolutely agree.

821
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,720
Like how cool would it have been to get like an Iron Man Captain America movie?

822
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,680
Oh, I would have frickin loved like just those two.

823
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:54,320
Yeah.

824
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,280
Just like I want my frickin Budapest movie.

825
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,980
Yeah.

826
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:05,440
Or like other like non-conventional ones like how like I don't know.

827
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,360
Frickin like Hawkeye and Thor.

828
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,040
That'd be a frickin cool one, too.

829
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,280
That would be actually.

830
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:11,780
Yeah.

831
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,840
Shit, man.

832
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,340
Yeah.

833
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:14,880
Yeah.

834
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,200
Or even like you like it's like I don't need these big like are the big team ups are cool.

835
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,160
Yeah, there's just something about like.

836
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:25,920
Buddies.

837
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,320
No, I agree.

838
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,840
I definitely agree.

839
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,480
So, yeah, I.

840
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Anyway, frickin do sidetracked again.

841
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,120
That was like all my fault.

842
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,840
I mean, yeah, but I mean that I feel that that's really not being sidetracked.

843
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,440
We're talking about Marvel.

844
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,800
We're still talking about the Avengers.

845
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,300
So.

846
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,240
Yeah, it's just like with this movie.

847
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:56,000
Like with this movie in particular, it's just I think this would have thrived more.

848
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,020
With.

849
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Better build up to things.

850
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:04,160
I agree.

851
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,880
Or just not necessarily focusing too hard on these like collaborative things like, hey, oh,

852
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,920
like we need to introduce Wakanda, which is something that they did in this.

853
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,200
They need to establish that Ulysses Klaustole Vibranium.

854
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200
They needed to establish that.

855
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,840
Honestly, one thing that I don't think they ever frickin touched on was Helen Cho.

856
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,440
Yeah, that's true.

857
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:37,600
Who is the doctor that healed up Hawkeye and did she die?

858
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,400
Yes, she does.

859
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:41,520
OK.

860
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Yeah, when she betrays Ultron, yeah, he kills her.

861
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,920
Yeah, so it's like they completely ignored that.

862
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:54,800
Like Helen Cho, because Helen Cho is the mother to Amadeus Cho, who is.

863
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,840
Another Hulk.

864
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,200
So it's like.

865
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,080
Like all these build ups, but it's just.

866
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,760
I don't know.

867
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,000
It was it was again, it was on the same level.

868
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,560
It was on the same level as the the writing here.

869
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,360
No, that's fair.

870
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,560
I do have a question, though, in your opinion, like because I'm

871
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,520
because I mean, shocker, I actually really like the direction that they took

872
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,880
with Hawkeye, how, you know, like he has a family and everything.

873
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,360
You know, he asked Fury to keep it off Shields files.

874
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:42,000
And so, you know, you really get to know who Clint Barton is as a person.

875
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,560
But are you glad that they went with that direction?

876
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,840
Or do you wish that they would have gone with like the comic versions

877
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,000
where he you know, he's definitely just like a solo guy does his own thing,

878
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,880
doesn't have a family weighing him down.

879
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,080
Or do you like that they took the direction that they did for his character in the MCU?

880
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,160
I appreciated it.

881
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,000
No, I did, too.

882
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:12,080
I feel as the as like other entries came out, they definitely it definitely.

883
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,160
So now they did.

884
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,600
I mean, I mean, I feel it was definitely brought up more so again in Hawkeye,

885
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,720
but that makes sense.

886
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,760
Yeah. The Hawkeye series, I feel covered it perfectly.

887
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,440
Yes, I agree.

888
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,320
Yeah, no, I'm just I just wanted your opinion.

889
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:36,880
If you if you if you liked the from here and here here here on out,

890
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
if you liked the direction that they took with the character of Hawkeye.

891
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,640
Yeah, I like the the family man aspect to it.

892
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840
I thought it worked really well for for his character.

893
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,680
And the fact that his kids consider Natasha Auntie Nat, that's just freaking adorable.

894
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,840
Just shows us how it was literally a brother sister relationship. Yeah.

895
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,080
So like we said, writing sitting in an 80.

896
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,440
And I think we're both pretty comfortable with that score still.

897
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

898
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,280
All right. Moving on over to acting.

899
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,360
We were a little bit higher on and by a little bit, I mean a lot of bit.

900
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Yeah. So going through this cast real quick, we have Robert Downey Jr.

901
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,560
who plays Iron Man or Tony Stark, Iron Man.

902
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,280
We have Chris Evans who plays Steve Rogers slash Captain America.

903
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,200
We have Chris Hemsworth who plays Thor Odinson.

904
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,120
We have Scarlett Johansson who plays Natasha Romanoff slash Black Widow.

905
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,280
We have Jeremy Renner who plays Clint Barton slash Hawkeye.

906
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,760
Mark Ruffalo who plays Bruce Banner slash the Hulk.

907
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,760
Elizabeth Olsen who played Wanda Maximoff slash the Scarlet Witch.

908
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,920
Aaron Taylor Johnson who plays Pietro Maximoff or Quicksilver.

909
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:06,240
We have James Spader who who provides the voice for Ultron.

910
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,400
Kobe Smulders who plays Mariah Hill.

911
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,280
And then Samuel L. Jackson who plays Nick Fury.

912
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,400
And then I think we had one more.

913
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,920
Yep. We had Paul Bettany who provided the voice for Jarvis and also played Vision.

914
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Hell yeah. Like I said, pretty stacked cast.

915
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Super stacked. Like especially now, like, yeah, just as time's gone on, like it's only gotten like

916
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:43,280
bigger. Yeah, like I remember when we went and saw this together, like how we were just like, OK,

917
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,880
can they really get bigger than this when it comes to how many people are associated with the team?

918
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:53,360
And lo and behold, Avengers three and four happened.

919
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,880
I want your opinion, though, because I was talking to Christina about this.

920
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:11,600
So in in quantum media, in quantum mania, Scott says that, you know, oh, you know, I'm an I'm an

921
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:17,760
I'm an I'm an Avenger now, all that stuff. And I know that Spider-Man gets knighted as an Avenger

922
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:26,720
by by Tony. But I don't know, maybe it's just me. But like after the original six, it for how many

923
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:32,560
people were brought on as Avengers and like it didn't really it wasn't like a huge process.

924
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:38,880
Like it felt like I guess it should have been or at least to me, I and like now I'm thinking

925
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,120
towards the comics, so maybe I'm wrong here. But it felt like when someone became an Avenger,

926
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,560
it didn't mean as much as it did when these original six guys did.

927
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:53,280
At least when it came to the MCU. Well, you also got to think like the original six,

928
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,640
they like created the Avengers within obviously this the MCU.

929
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:08,320
So it was kind of a big deal. And then Wanda became an Avenger in Age of Ultron because she

930
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:16,320
decided to go out and fight with them. Like night, I guess. I don't think like Avenger,

931
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:23,120
like it wasn't like a membership thing. Like it wasn't like, oh, I think that Tony Stark just

932
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:29,200
turned it into like, oh, we're the Avengers. Like it's a freaking like a like a freaking band.

933
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,120
It's just like we can invite whoever the hell we want to be part of this.

934
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,360
It wasn't official or anything because otherwise it would have been some sort of

935
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,600
like official group. Like at least in terms of like the government or

936
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:54,960
shield or whatever. But it was just a directive. Nick Fury wrote up is just like, hey, we we're

937
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:59,200
going to need these people on hand. Like we need to keep track of these people. So just in case

938
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:08,560
we need them all to gather like they're there. Yeah. According to a couple articles I've seen

939
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:16,240
as of right now, the Avengers are disbanded. Like there are no Avengers right now. And that's why

940
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,040
the Thunderbolts are going to come in and like take the Avengers place because there are no

941
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:27,120
Avengers right now. All right. That makes sense. Damn, I don't like to think of an MCU without

942
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:35,920
the Avengers. Yeah, that makes me kind of sad. But yeah, so yeah, we were sitting in 90 with this

943
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:43,120
with this acting score, and it's because of how like at least now, like just we've had more time

944
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:54,160
with them. So we just see how consistent their portrayal has been. Yeah, absolutely. So who's

945
01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:01,760
who is your your top three for this film? See number three.

946
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Let's see number three. What I give number three. Sorry, I don't really get a good.

947
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:20,720
You know what? Number three. Number three. God damn it. I'm sorry.

948
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,360
Press the button. Oh, my freaking God, my laptop is being stupid.

949
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:32,640
OK, number three, I'm going to give to James Spader, who did Ultron. I know this was just

950
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:38,640
voice work, but actually, we know he did a motion capture for Ultron. So yeah, he did a little bit

951
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:46,880
of it. Yeah, absolutely. Freaking phenomenal. I still stand even eight years later by the fact

952
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:54,880
that I want James Spader to narrate my life. Oh, man, dude, if they're like I I've attempted to

953
01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:02,800
watch that show that he's on the blacklist. Just because like I love his voice, but it's like one

954
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:10,480
of those shows I just can't get into. That's fair. No, dude, I understand. His voice is so

955
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:17,120
captivating is Ultron. It's so intimidating. Like you just can't help but be in awe for like

956
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:23,520
the way that he's talking and like honestly his plans, you know, to just destroy humanity.

957
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,000
Just destroy humanity and everything. Maybe it's just because his voice, but I'm just like, you

958
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:35,120
know what? Maybe you got a point there, man. Maybe I can get behind this. He James Spader

959
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:44,640
thrives on dialogues. Dude, he does. Like, oh, my God, it's incredible. So yeah, so he's actually

960
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:51,600
my number two. Hell yeah. No, great, great. Freaking choice. Great, great. Freaking choice.

961
01:04:51,600 --> 01:05:02,560
Sorry. Number two, I think I'm going to give to Robert Downey Jr.

962
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:12,640
Honestly, he is always amazing as Tony Stark and in this movie, especially the emotions that he

963
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:19,520
has to go through with him believing that he's the reason why that the Avengers would be disbanded,

964
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:25,120
why everyone dies around him, just all the effects that he goes through.

965
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:32,240
Just throughout the movie, just how he wants the Avengers to stay a team. It's freaking,

966
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:39,760
it's honestly insane, but amazing acting. Absolutely from Robert Downey Jr. once again,

967
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:48,320
kills it in this role. But number one, by shocker to no one, I got to give it to, I got to give it

968
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:53,360
to Jeremy. I got to give it to my boy, Clint Barton, because in the first one, he was just a

969
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,400
mind controlled zombie. Like, yeah, at the final fight, yes, he got to throw in some couple clips,

970
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:03,520
but not really that much in this freaking movie. He actually gets a freaking backstory where he

971
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:11,200
actually has, he actually has a family. He owns his own land. You know, we even get deeper into,

972
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:19,520
you know, how he was brought into SHIELD, you know, his relationship, not really as much of

973
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:30,880
his relationship with Nat. But I still feel like once we get to his house, you could definitely

974
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:38,560
tell how close the family is with Natasha, because you can't, you know, you hear his kids call her

975
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:46,000
Auntie Nat. His wife even talks about her a lot. Laura does. You see everything that they did with

976
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:52,800
Clint, I love so much. And just I love, I love Jeremy Renner in this role. He is the reason why

977
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,360
Hawkeye is my favorite. If it weren't for him, I probably wouldn't really even know who Hawkeye was

978
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:04,400
since the first Thor. After I saw his appearance there, I started actually diving into who Hawkeye

979
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:10,160
was, reading comics, trying to understand who Clint Barton was, because I got a glimpse of him

980
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,720
and I wanted to know more. And I've always just thought the guy with a bow and arrow that has no

981
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:21,360
superpowers, that just seems really cool as hell to me. So it's thanks to Jeremy Renner that Hawkeye

982
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:31,040
is my favorite. And just, yeah, he blew it out of the water this time next to the series Hawkeye,

983
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,120
just because he actually gets so much to do in there. This is, I feel his best performance

984
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:41,120
as the character, just because they say he actually gets to play Clint Barton. He actually gets to be

985
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:48,640
the sarcastic asshole that he is. And I absolutely freaking love it. So yeah, Jeremy Renner,

986
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:57,600
absolutely number one. Fair enough. Damn, dude, I was giving this some like genuine thought,

987
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:03,840
like while you were talking, I am actually going to like restructure. I'm changing my

988
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:10,160
my answer a little bit. OK, I'm going to give my number one to James Spader.

989
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:19,040
I like it. Loved Ultron. I loved how like Shakespearean he was.

990
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,760
And all that good shit. And like I said, I wish it was like we were talking about earlier,

991
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,960
I wish it was something that was a little bit more developed. I would have loved to see more of this,

992
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:37,920
like, especially from a. Just like a longer formatted.

993
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,400
Place, I guess. I don't know. I I I don't know.

994
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:51,520
I lost my words there, but yeah, so I'm given James Spader. I think he did a fantastic job,

995
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:58,640
made Ultron stand out a lot more than he would have otherwise, like voice by literally anyone else.

996
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:05,840
Yeah. Like James Spader's voice just worked incredibly well for for this character.

997
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:14,320
So I'm given him my number one, my number two, my number three, my number four, my number five,

998
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,360
two. I am going to be given to Jeremy Renner.

999
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,480
Holy shit. I know. I know. It surprised me, too.

1000
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:30,160
With this like latest rewatch, I. Enjoyed his performance

1001
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:39,760
more than any of the other Avengers. Hell, yeah. Yeah, like I thought he was he was witty,

1002
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:47,440
like charming is all as all hell. I like that he. I like that they showed off like his fun side

1003
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:51,520
a little bit where he was still like. Going to.

1004
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:57,840
Like lifting Thor's hammer or attempting to like, I thought that that was really fun

1005
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:03,120
because I I didn't really think like before that he would be the type of person that would do that.

1006
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,320
Like I think he would he would have been till on like Nat's side and be like,

1007
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,560
oh, well, whatever, like, who cares if I can lift this hammer?

1008
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,560
But like, I love that he like.

1009
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:21,120
Was able to joke around with with them, but then he also gave a really.

1010
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,720
A really good performance when he was talking to Wanda.

1011
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,400
And the whole like you walk out those doors, you're an Avenger.

1012
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,200
Like that whole discussion was fantastic.

1013
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:40,960
And like super inspirational, too, like they freaking like got me worked up and just like,

1014
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,520
yes, like, let's frickin do this.

1015
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,920
Oh, yes, I love it.

1016
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:58,160
Yeah, my struggles come with number three, because it's like instinctually, I want to say Robert Downey.

1017
01:10:59,280 --> 01:10:59,760
But.

1018
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:04,800
I like I'm trying to think like it's just because Robert Downey got more screen time than everyone else.

1019
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,400
That's fair. Honestly, I feel like.

1020
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:16,080
You know, honestly, if it's all right with you, I'll wait till after you're done with your ranking.

1021
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Yeah, I do want to actually change mine.

1022
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,800
While you're your top three?

1023
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:28,800
No, just I want to I if it's right with you, I'm going to I'm going to be the top three.

1024
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:33,760
I'm going to I actually want to bump Robert Downey to three and I'm going to bump James

1025
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,560
Spader up to two.

1026
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,560
OK, yeah, because listening to you, I'm just like, yeah, you know what?

1027
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,920
You got a point. So yeah, Spader gets number two.

1028
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:53,120
Yeah, it's it's hard because it's like no one else got as much time to shine as frickin Robert Downey did.

1029
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,560
It's true.

1030
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:00,800
And not to say that I don't like Robert Downey's performance of Iron Man, I love

1031
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,400
that he plays like his performance as Iron Man.

1032
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:13,200
It's just in an Avengers movie, you need to focus on all of the Avengers, give them equal treatment.

1033
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:17,360
Obviously, like somewhat like there's always going to be like a major focus of one.

1034
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,880
But I feel like the the screen time in Age of Ultron is just so skewed.

1035
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:30,160
No, it really is. I mean, honestly, out of the original six, I feel like the one that gets the short end of the stick the most is Thor.

1036
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:38,320
Yes, Thor got frickin all types of screwed like Thor gets like jack shit to do here.

1037
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:47,040
I mean, yeah, he goes on that like little adventure to, you know, get really, truly see his vision and, you know, the Infinity Stones and everything.

1038
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:52,560
But like, as far as I feel like actually like growing as a character and everything like that.

1039
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:58,800
Yeah, like up until Ragnarok, you could definitely tell that they were at a standstill when it came to Thor.

1040
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,400
They didn't know where to take him.

1041
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:07,840
Yeah, I'm going to look up real quick what the screen time was for everyone.

1042
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,840
All right. So, yeah.

1043
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:21,760
No surprise anywhere. Tony Stark's coming in with 29 minutes, just under half an hour total screen time.

1044
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Followed by Steve Rogers.

1045
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:36,080
Then Black Widow, then Ultron, then Hulk, Barton, Thor, Wanda, Pietro.

1046
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:44,240
Hulk gets five minutes.

1047
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,160
Damn, I'm sure you I'm sure that kills you.

1048
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:54,240
A little bit. Let's see. And then vision like five minutes.

1049
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,640
Yeah, so not not a lot.

1050
01:13:59,440 --> 01:13:59,840
No.

1051
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:05,120
Like not a lot of screen time going around here. But yeah, it's just.

1052
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:12,160
It's hard to judge anyone else's performance because they were so overpowered by Robert Downey's.

1053
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,600
It's true. I mean, honestly, and I know you don't love like the whole romantic relationship.

1054
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,960
I don't either. But and I think the way that we've talked, it feels like.

1055
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,120
I don't know. Do you like Mark Ruffalo's?

1056
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,440
Bruce Banner, like, are you a fan of it or no?

1057
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:34,640
I don't mind his banner. I don't like what they've done to his Hulk.

1058
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:43,680
That's fair, because like, honestly, if I'm because, dude, I just keep restructuring my freaking top three and you haven't even freaking finished yours.

1059
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:52,400
Like literally, I'm sorry, as we keep talking, I'm like, I really just want to kick down off the list because like if I'm thinking of other characters that I'm just like, you know what?

1060
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:58,480
I remember having more, you know, an interest in, you know, like in that character where they took that character.

1061
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:04,560
So like if like if I'm like, well, this isn't necessarily like the character, it's just who.

1062
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,080
Who gave the best acting?

1063
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:17,680
No, that's fair. And like, I think I have to give this to Robert Downey because one, he kills it and it's just his performance is the one that stands out the most.

1064
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,000
That's fair. I mean, if I had to think Renner. Yeah.

1065
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:32,640
I feel like one that like, honestly, I feel like Ruffalo still kind of stands out to me because like in this one, you can definitely tell he's still trying to fight.

1066
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,000
You know, having two persons identities in him.

1067
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:45,920
That's why I kind of hated the way that they took the Hulk in Ragnarok that I don't know, just I hate that they turned it into a joke.

1068
01:15:47,120 --> 01:16:00,080
But it like this in the first one, the the way that Ruffalo's banner deals with Hulk, I like absolutely love how much like the shit that he has to go through is just insane.

1069
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,360
I feel Ruffalo just sells the performance so, so well.

1070
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:10,160
Yeah. I still have to give this to Robert Downey.

1071
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:15,600
I think I think I got to agree to like, yeah, number three, I'm going to give to Downey as well.

1072
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:28,320
But like a like, like a close number four, like if we're if we're even talking about that, like probably I would give it to Mark Ruffalo because yeah, yeah, just I love his performance.

1073
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:38,160
As as Bruce Banner, you know, going through everyone else, though, like Chris Evans as Steve Rogers, like.

1074
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,680
I think he was just played very bland.

1075
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:50,080
He was, which sucks, considering of how how much character growth he had in the Winter Soldier.

1076
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:52,080
Yeah, came out before this.

1077
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:58,960
So the fact that, yeah, he honestly like I'm OK, like with with big team up movies like this.

1078
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:09,440
I think they just structured it wrong, like because they went into this like every Avengers movie is basically an Iron Man movie.

1079
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,040
Iron Man is typically the focus.

1080
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,440
It's true. If he's not, they work their way into making the movie.

1081
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:22,240
Like Iron Man focused, they.

1082
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:32,400
They just I think whoever gets jipped from like screen time needed to be like the focus.

1083
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:38,080
So it like in terms of like the the Avengers, I think.

1084
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,960
I don't know. I think they just needed a restructure.

1085
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:51,600
It a little bit like maybe put a bit more focus on Barton like it seemed like that's a rat that they wanted to head.

1086
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,960
Yeah, and you'll get no arguments from me with that.

1087
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,680
Yeah, but I mean, all the performances were really good.

1088
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,520
So that's why we ended up giving acting a 90.

1089
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,200
All right, moving on over to character development.

1090
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,440
We ended up giving this.

1091
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:13,600
An 85. Again, this this was more like team.

1092
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,200
I think we more judge this as a team.

1093
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,240
So like, what did you think of their their development overall?

1094
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,440
Honestly, I feel.

1095
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,280
I feel for the most part it was it was still I feel just as strong as in the first one.

1096
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:31,840
You could definitely see the

1097
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:40,480
movie that they definitely had their problems as a team is mostly, of course, you know, Cap and Tony, those two struggling.

1098
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:48,800
But, you know, the especially the scene where it's the you know, the final fight and Ultron's just like, you know, do you honestly?

1099
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,200
How do you think you could possibly stop me?

1100
01:18:51,200 --> 01:19:00,080
And Tony just says, well, it's like the old man said said together, you know, they're going to be a team, you know, and they're going to be a team.

1101
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,480
Said together.

1102
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:05,120
And so it's a really sweet moment.

1103
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,520
You know, the Avengers all banding together again.

1104
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:16,160
But like, I do appreciate that they have their ups and downs throughout the movie, because in the first one, we only just see them banding together.

1105
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:22,880
That's all we really see is like, yeah, we see some like confrontations with them first meeting up with each other and everything.

1106
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:34,800
And, you know, acting like trying to come together as a team where in this one, the team's already established, but it's staying a team is what the struggle is.

1107
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:47,120
And so I feel for the most part, I feel it actually does a really good job at portraying just honestly how hard it can be to be a team with six freaking superheroes.

1108
01:19:47,120 --> 01:20:00,320
Yeah, I like I think the reason it's. It's where it's at is because you definitely see like the struggles between them, and that's like super evident.

1109
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:05,760
I wish that we would have got to see more of just like their light hearted bantering.

1110
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,480
I wanted more of the freaking them all trying to lift Thor's hammer.

1111
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,720
I wanted more of that.

1112
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,560
Yeah, well, that's exactly like I think that.

1113
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:26,880
I mean, it's hard to like figure out where to like put that, especially with how they structured the movie.

1114
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:31,520
But I think I don't know, I think it worked out pretty well.

1115
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:41,640
Like everyone was was entertaining and and fun and like you get to see like the hardships that the team is going through and in all this.

1116
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,920
So I think it worked out fairly well.

1117
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,120
Yeah, I can I can definitely agree.

1118
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:53,880
So, yeah, sitting at that slightly above average score with eighty five, like definitely tracks.

1119
01:20:53,880 --> 01:21:00,080
Yeah. Anything else you wanted to say about character development or?

1120
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:08,160
Not really. Yeah, we usually pound through these like last ones, like the ones that we always seem to like stick on our story, writing and acting.

1121
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:12,840
And then once we get to character development, it's like we like fly by.

1122
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,840
Yeah, it's kind of funny.

1123
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:23,280
Yeah. Moving on over to effects, we also gave this an eighty five and.

1124
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:31,280
This one, like so here's here's something like the issues that I had.

1125
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:41,320
I felt like the a lot most of if not all of the budget was focused on the the Hulk Buster Hulk fight,

1126
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,800
because that looked incredible.

1127
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,880
I can agree with that.

1128
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,680
I honestly, this is my favorite throughout the whole MCU.

1129
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,240
The Hulk has ever looked.

1130
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,520
I love how the Hulk looks in this movie.

1131
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:01,000
Yeah, I'm a big fan of how he how he looks in this.

1132
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,200
And I wish that they would have kept it consistent and not turn them into a frickin pretty boy.

1133
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:13,640
But yeah, agreed. That is neither here nor there.

1134
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:21,560
Yeah, so. The the effects I had issues with was a lot of the.

1135
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,560
The quick stuff, anything that was happening, that was like kind of a quick moment.

1136
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,440
I didn't care for.

1137
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:34,040
Like I'm thinking like initially, like with the opening shot when

1138
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,960
I think it's either Thor or whoever is like flying towards like one of the

1139
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:44,560
the bunkers that the enemy is at, like he like flies up there like really quick,

1140
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,280
kicks a guy off. Oh, shit. My desk.

1141
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,320
Yeah, like kicks this guy off and it looks like super fake,

1142
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,680
like when the guy's like falling down and he goes and like flies off somewhere else.

1143
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:03,440
Like it's all so quick and it doesn't have to be like, just take your time,

1144
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,360
like make it look like somewhat good.

1145
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,240
But it turns into just like a quick little push like you don't even get it.

1146
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,320
Like it doesn't feel like a true superhero takeoff.

1147
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:18,000
It feels so frickin animated to really.

1148
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,480
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, because yeah,

1149
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,640
yeah, because you yeah, it's Thor, like you said, because yeah,

1150
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:29,440
there's a part where you like picks up a I think just like a piece of like a building

1151
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,400
and the way that he like hits one of the the bad guys with it.

1152
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,360
It looks so robotic and just so animated.

1153
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,640
I'm just like there's no way that that was actually Chris Hemsworth doing that.

1154
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,120
Like that was that was total CGI.

1155
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,360
And like even after that, when Caps dragging one of the guys

1156
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,720
while he's riding his motorcycle, that doesn't look that great, in my opinion.

1157
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,880
No, they they spent most of their time

1158
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,640
focused on like certain shots.

1159
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,920
So like I think the shot that they focused on is when they're all like in line,

1160
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,240
like going to fight and everything.

1161
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,840
I mean, that that one shot is so bad.

1162
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:11,120
So it's a is a super dope scene.

1163
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,960
Although I have to I get why, because they probably had to I don't know

1164
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,640
if they like had to flip the screen or not.

1165
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,440
This is me being nitpicky.

1166
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:22,120
In that scene, when, you know, they're all jumping into the air,

1167
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,880
Jeremy Renner is he's holding the bow in his left hand

1168
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,560
and pulling back with his right when he's left handed.

1169
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,400
So he should be holding it in his right and pulling back with his left.

1170
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,640
I'm just being nitpicky here.

1171
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,440
But that's just something I always remember in that one scene.

1172
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,560
But I can look past that because it's such a bad ass, such a bad scene.

1173
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,240
I think it's I think it's

1174
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:52,040
I think it's I think that mainly had to be due to the angle.

1175
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,280
Probably because they were shooting it all from like

1176
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,560
from the right side, like looking in.

1177
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,640
So it's like, I don't know if you could have had like a good shot

1178
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,600
where it's like his arms covering like a majority of the bow.

1179
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,040
You wouldn't get to see the arrow.

1180
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,080
So I had to do it with the other arm.

1181
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,800
Yeah, that's a good point.

1182
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,520
That or just continuity error.

1183
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,480
But I mean, that's not really too much.

1184
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:22,560
It could honestly be continuity here because I remember he frickin in Thor.

1185
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,600
He pulls it back with his right.

1186
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,640
But then he switches in Avengers to pulling it back with his left.

1187
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,640
I'm like, OK, so is Renner left or right handed?

1188
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,760
But it's just like that.

1189
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,920
He's just amadextrous now. Yeah.

1190
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,920
Yeah. But other than that, I think.

1191
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,680
Ultron, as cool as he was designed,

1192
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:49,680
I don't think that he was animated quite the best.

1193
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,960
I agree. There are some scenes that I'm just like, OK,

1194
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,480
I can totally tell that he's not actually there.

1195
01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:57,520
Like I'm having to kind of.

1196
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,880
What's the word?

1197
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:06,120
Not control my brain, but like make my brain believe that he's he's he's there.

1198
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,640
Whereas that should just come natural.

1199
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,480
Like the CGI should be that good that I can totally believe that he's actually there.

1200
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:14,320
Yeah, this is the downfall of CGI.

1201
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,360
I feel I think that they should have gone for.

1202
01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:25,480
Animatronic for Ultron, dude, I would have loved that so much.

1203
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,880
Like the vet, like the the I mean, the animatronics

1204
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,480
that we get nowadays are just off the hook.

1205
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,320
So I feel and then it looks better in the shot.

1206
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,680
Like it's you get a better performance out of the actors because they're

1207
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,080
like that was a constant issue that if you look at the behind the scenes stuff

1208
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:51,360
like Elizabeth Olson and Aaron Taylor Johnson, they're always like talking.

1209
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:56,520
Like it's kind of hard to focus because James Spader's given this really good

1210
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:00,680
performance and your eyes are what are like drawn down to him.

1211
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:05,960
But you have to stare up at these two little like glowing eyes.

1212
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,320
That they say they put up or like this tense.

1213
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,160
Like they put up or like this tennis ball and it's just like it's distracting.

1214
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,680
And it's just like.

1215
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Yeah, I believe it.

1216
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,400
Yeah, most definitely.

1217
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:24,840
Like they need to go practical where practicality can be done.

1218
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,120
Yes, absolutely.

1219
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:32,560
And yeah, like all the other robots like the Ultron Army,

1220
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:37,040
I'm like, whatever, I have that CGI like it doesn't it didn't look horrible.

1221
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:41,760
But when it came to like main Ultron, like you should have done

1222
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,280
some practical shit with him.

1223
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:44,760
I agree.

1224
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,880
And yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong.

1225
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,720
There were some really cool scenes with him, like stuff that looked really cool.

1226
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:58,160
But it also like it reminded me of the bad guy from robots.

1227
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,760
Like in terms of like the animation style.

1228
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,040
Yeah, that's fair.

1229
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,760
Oh, I love that.

1230
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,680
Yeah, my favorite is when he's throwing a widow in that prison.

1231
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:16,080
And he's talking to her with his old body, and then he like rips through

1232
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:21,280
and like cuts the old one in half and like is in his like new vibranium body.

1233
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:23,600
Like that was the shit.

1234
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,200
Yeah, that was bad ass.

1235
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,200
I love that.

1236
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,880
But yeah, unfortunately, I think this was.

1237
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:35,440
One of the last. Good animated.

1238
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,520
Like MCU movie, like I'm good before I.

1239
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,960
Before I put my tongue in my mouth.

1240
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:46,640
Or my.

1241
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:52,800
I was like, isn't the phrase foot in your mouth, your tongue in your mouth.

1242
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:53,840
That's it.

1243
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,480
I mean, I don't know about you, but my tongue's already in my mouth.

1244
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:05,840
But unless I feel like the animation or like the CGI started getting funky.

1245
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,080
It was already funky with Thor Ragnarok.

1246
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,760
They kind of fixed it with Infinity War.

1247
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:19,600
So it started taking a downfall somewhere between homecoming and Infinity War.

1248
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,320
But with hit and misses.

1249
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,120
Black Panther was a huge mess.

1250
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,920
At least in that final fight. Yeah, the final fight.

1251
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,520
Like, yeah, the rest of it.

1252
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:31,920
Not bad. Yeah.

1253
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,320
But got that final fight.

1254
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,000
Oh, God, so bad.

1255
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:38,720
Yeah, it wasn't great.

1256
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:40,720
Excuse me.

1257
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,640
Yeah. So I still stand by the 85.

1258
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:45,920
No, I do, too.

1259
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,960
All right. Moving on over to music.

1260
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,520
We ended up giving this an eight out of 10.

1261
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,360
Which I stand by.

1262
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:02,880
The Avengers theme is just like such of an earworm.

1263
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:05,840
Like, it's hard to not give it.

1264
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Like anything, it's hard to give anything lower.

1265
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,960
Like I was trying to justify like a seven.

1266
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:21,200
Like if I was anywhere and we don't do half of the music, we don't do half of the music.

1267
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:22,160
Uh, points.

1268
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:26,720
But if I was to put it anywhere, I'd probably be sitting at like a seven and a half.

1269
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,040
But it'd be a strong six, seven and a half.

1270
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,080
So since we round up, it's usually.

1271
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,280
Yeah, I'd still round up to like an eight.

1272
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:41,120
But I mean, that that that theme song is just a frickin bang.

1273
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,360
It is so, so iconic.

1274
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,640
Who did the music?

1275
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,120
So Alan Silver.

1276
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,080
So Brian Tyler signed on for this one.

1277
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:55,600
Um, but Alan Silvestri is the one that created the Avengers theme for the first one.

1278
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,880
So Brian replaced Alan from the first one.

1279
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:05,920
But yeah, we, I've, we owe Alan Silvestri all the credit for creating that amazing Avengers theme.

1280
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:07,680
Yeah.

1281
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:16,080
Because to me, that is up with the ranks of like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, the, the Avengers theme.

1282
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:25,680
Just yeah, like agree with whatever you said, like it gets you just so hyped, so pumped and just, I love it so, so much.

1283
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:27,920
Yeah, same here.

1284
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:33,440
So yeah, that's why we're why I think the eight is fairly justified.

1285
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:34,720
Agreed.

1286
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,720
All right, moving on over to costumes.

1287
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,040
We also gave this an eight out of 10.

1288
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,360
And this one was a little bit more like when I was looking through the scores,

1289
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:56,080
was a little bit more on the controversial side until I rewatched this movie and kind of reminded myself why it was sitting there.

1290
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,640
So we like looking through the images.

1291
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,560
So my biggest issue.

1292
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,760
With this outfit.

1293
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:16,400
Outfit it are with Captain America's. This is my least favorite Captain America outfit.

1294
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:18,560
What?

1295
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:21,680
Dude, it's like top three for me.

1296
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:25,520
I.

1297
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:30,640
You're saying you like you like the first Avengers suit more than this one.

1298
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,800
Dude, I absolutely like the first Avengers suit more than this one.

1299
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:35,360
All right.

1300
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:36,400
No, bro, I'm out.

1301
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:38,320
I'm like.

1302
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,520
I like that, too, but I love the one in Age of Ultron.

1303
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:49,360
I don't care for like the excessively dark features on this.

1304
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:53,040
I love like it's it's the super dark blue.

1305
01:32:53,520 --> 01:33:00,560
I don't like the frickin like accentuated like red highlights around his star.

1306
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,480
And then the frickin like stripe down the center.

1307
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:12,640
Like not fully like connecting like I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does.

1308
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:19,040
It's like I said, one of my it's my least favorite suit of his.

1309
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:25,840
And I also feel like with the helmet, the the A should be a lot more vibrant than it is.

1310
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,240
OK, I will give you that.

1311
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,560
Yeah, it should be. It should be cleaner.

1312
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,560
A lot of this is just brightness.

1313
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,080
And that's why I like the first one.

1314
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:39,520
It's just brightness. And that's why I like the first Avenger, because it was like a like almost

1315
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,480
like jeans blue.

1316
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,360
So it was like nice and bright.

1317
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:50,800
Everything like all I love, like how they incorporated the the stars and stripes.

1318
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:56,240
Like it was like obviously the star logo, but then the stripes were part of like his

1319
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:59,760
just part of his uniform.

1320
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,240
And so in this, it's just wasn't digging it.

1321
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,240
I was, but that's just me. Yeah.

1322
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,360
Yeah, the next up, Thor, Thor's kind of like same issues for me.

1323
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,000
Very, very dark.

1324
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:25,440
Where I feel like the war out of everyone should be like the cleanest looking.

1325
01:34:25,440 --> 01:34:29,520
Like, especially with his like now knowing that his suit is magic.

1326
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,320
Like that's how he like snaps on and off his his outfit.

1327
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,160
Like, I feel like his suit should be very clean looking.

1328
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:45,120
That's I feel that this is where we're like kind of indifferent with this, because I like I feel

1329
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,520
that this sequel definitely tries to be a lot more dark and gritty than the first one, a lot more

1330
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,800
serious because compared to the first one.

1331
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:58,560
Compared to the first one. And so it seems like the costume designers wanted the costumes to

1332
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,240
follow suit with that.

1333
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:06,400
And so the costumes are, you know, given a lot more paler colors, a lot more darker colors.

1334
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:12,800
So like, I don't know, man, I kind of got to disagree with you a little bit.

1335
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,840
Like I love the darkness of these costumes.

1336
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,160
It really works for me with Age of Ultron.

1337
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:23,120
Fair. I mean, I understand like wanting to match the tone and everything.

1338
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,360
Like, I completely understand that.

1339
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,760
It's just I don't know for me personally, it's just.

1340
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:33,680
No, dude, I completely get it.

1341
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:35,840
One of my favorite things.

1342
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,680
There's actually an Avengers, like an animated Avengers movie.

1343
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:48,080
I forget like the full title of it, but it's like it kind of follows along with like

1344
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,360
the ultimate Avengers.

1345
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:59,840
And so Thor in this, like he has like the circular discs on his suit.

1346
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:04,480
But when he's using his power, they glow.

1347
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:14,640
And I feel like that's a feature on like on these suits that they've never fully utilized.

1348
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,200
Like, I feel like like it's always been a staple.

1349
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,880
Like they've had those discs.

1350
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,360
It's just they've never done anything like with them.

1351
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,520
And I would love to see one where it's like they're glowing.

1352
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,240
Yeah, I can agree with that.

1353
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:30,000
Yeah, so.

1354
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:35,680
But I mean, I like the sleeveless look, the hairs fine.

1355
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,960
Like, I think this has kind of gotten to the point where it's maybe a little on the

1356
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,160
too long side, but fair.

1357
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,720
Minor complaint there. Yeah.

1358
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:53,520
And then I've been indifferent about the helmet.

1359
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:58,080
Like, I still think that I really would like to see Thor wear a helmet, but.

1360
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:01,520
I understand that they why they don't.

1361
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,680
All right, next up, we got Iron Man.

1362
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:08,320
Iron Man looks freaking sick.

1363
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,240
The design of the Hulk Buster was.

1364
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:12,160
Bad ass.

1365
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,160
Yeah, it really was.

1366
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,360
That shows perfection.

1367
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,440
Yeah, they adapted that like flawlessly.

1368
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:23,760
Like, I have close to no complaints about Iron Man.

1369
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,920
I will say, though, it's not my favorite mark that Iron Man has ever worn.

1370
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:31,360
I'm curious.

1371
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,240
Do you have a favorite mark that Iron Man has worn?

1372
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,280
Oh, that's a great question.

1373
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,280
It's a hard one, though, right?

1374
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:42,960
It's a hard one, though, right?

1375
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:43,360
Yeah.

1376
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,400
Gosh, that's a damn good question.

1377
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,640
Honestly, I think I'm partial to the mark, too.

1378
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,320
Or that's three mark three marks.

1379
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:56,880
Mark three.

1380
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,920
OK, so the O.G. Golden Year Golden Red.

1381
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:02,480
Yeah, I think I've always been partial to that.

1382
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,840
I really dug like the the triangle.

1383
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,880
The little arc reactor.

1384
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,920
From Iron Man, too.

1385
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,920
I can't keep track of like the arc or the mark numbers.

1386
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,440
No, same here.

1387
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:25,520
And then the mark 42 suit from Iron Man three was pretty cool.

1388
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:26,160
Right.

1389
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,840
And then after that, I kind of started.

1390
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,120
Liking the suits less and less like this one was,

1391
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:40,800
I think, the last one outside of Iron Man three that I liked.

1392
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:48,080
That's fair, because, like, honestly, after this one, they just all got like way to CGI.

1393
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,480
Like, you know, going back to what you said about, yeah, this was definitely like the last like

1394
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,920
good CGI Marvel movie, because, yeah, after after this one, like literally

1395
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:00,480
because before

1396
01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:03,760
I feel like before Civil War, because I feel that's when it like really started.

1397
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,040
Not like great, like I get told, tell the Tony was not in that suit.

1398
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:13,600
He actually used they used to have him like actually wear like the like the shoulder,

1399
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:19,120
the guards and you like other parts of the suit, they would they would frickin he'd wear a motion

1400
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:24,080
capture suit so they could, you know, like add in the extra parts during post production.

1401
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:28,880
But he was still wearing part of it to where it would make for, you know, easier, but not as

1402
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:33,840
make for, you know, easier movements. They could track his head better, all that stuff.

1403
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:40,080
So it looked really, really good. But like when it came to like Civil War, like

1404
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:47,280
there's like when they're at the airport, whenever Tony moves his head, when his helmet's off,

1405
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:55,360
it looks so frickin bad. Yeah. So, so bad. Yeah. I wouldn't say that like

1406
01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:01,840
Age of Ultron's the last good and or CGI Marvel movie. I'd say the last I

1407
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:05,920
with Iron Man is at least to me. Oh, with Iron Man. Yes.

1408
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,680
Yeah. The last one I would say was probably Dr. Strange.

1409
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:15,600
That's OK. Yeah, I can definitely. And that's just because Dr. Strange was just the frickin trip.

1410
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,920
Yes. But in the best way possible. Yeah.

1411
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:24,160
But I loved loved his look and I love how they just kind of like mirrored it

1412
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:30,080
over with the Hulkbuster. The Hulkbuster was the bomb.com.

1413
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:34,640
Like I feel the Hulkbuster, the way that like it's got some like silver going on,

1414
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:38,960
the I don't know the way that the silver is placed. It reminds me a lot of the

1415
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:45,280
final suit in the first Avengers. Yeah, a little bit, right?

1416
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:55,840
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's Iron Man. Next to we got Hawkeye. And so what we're looking at now is

1417
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:02,320
like the trench coat suit. And he had this throughout the entire movie.

1418
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:08,320
He did the only so not the entire movie when it came to the final fight, he does take it off.

1419
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:13,760
And then he goes back to having the like sleeveless look. And he does have the

1420
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,880
like sleeveless look they had in the first one, which that one works too. Like I love both.

1421
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:25,200
But I do appreciate that they even tried more to go with a comic accurate,

1422
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,040
like comic accurate, but also like keeping it like, you know, like

1423
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:37,200
what's the word like, not black ops, but like like stealth suit for Hawkeye. Yeah.

1424
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:43,600
I think my only real complaint with his suit is I wish that they would have gone with a

1425
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:50,240
like a richer purple and not that it's just like reddish purple.

1426
01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:58,480
Yeah, I can definitely agree with you there. Yeah, I mean, no real complaints. Yeah.

1427
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,400
And dude, I freaking loved his quiver in this one.

1428
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:09,600
His quiver was sick. All right. I find it funny that his quiver changes throughout every single movie.

1429
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:17,280
It's always a different one. Yeah. But yeah, overall, it really dug his his suit.

1430
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,680
I'm also sorry. Can I say one more thing about Hawkeye? Yeah.

1431
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:29,360
I'm kind of sad that because after this movie, his bow switches back to how it was in the first

1432
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:35,600
Avengers. I'm I'm honestly disappointed that they never came back to this bow because I love this bow

1433
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:41,600
that he holds, like how it has like the circle around his where he holds it in his hand.

1434
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,520
I feel like the the positioning of his hand just looks a lot more comfortable.

1435
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:52,240
So I've always been curious why they switched back after Age of Ultron, because

1436
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,960
like, yeah, just I love the design of this bow and I wish that they would have kept it going.

1437
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:07,680
And yeah, definitely with you on that one. All right. Next up, we got the twins, Wanda and Pietro.

1438
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,680
Wanda, I think they did they adapted the best that they could there.

1439
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:22,480
Fair. Hers is like she's in a black dress. She's in like knee high boots and a red leather jacket.

1440
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:28,640
Like it's the best that they could do. I don't think that we got enough of her suit at the end

1441
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:34,080
of this movie, which I'm not counting because it was in there for just like a short little blip.

1442
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,840
But this this was was OK. Yeah.

1443
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:48,720
And then Quicksilver's like his was pretty plain, but the shirt was cool.

1444
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:53,040
This sure was really cool. Yeah, very.

1445
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:57,840
Very it felt like maybe he took it from like Captain America

1446
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:02,400
in terms of like his I'm I wouldn't be surprised if he did.

1447
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,040
Yeah, but I think it worked.

1448
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,280
It it looks great for his character, just kind of like.

1449
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,280
I don't know, like it just looks like a shirt.

1450
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,040
Like, I don't know how to explain this.

1451
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,480
It just looks like a shirt you'd wear if you had super speed.

1452
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:21,920
No, it does. No, dead serious.

1453
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,400
Like I couldn't tell you why.

1454
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:30,560
It's just like if someone came to me wearing a shirt that was like similar to this and they're

1455
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,480
like, hey, what superpower do I have? I like my first instinct would be like super speed.

1456
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:37,600
Duh. Yeah. Isn't it obvious?

1457
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:48,240
Yeah. All right. And then last up, we got the design for Ultron and freaking loved it.

1458
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,520
Yeah. Phenomenal. He looks so cool.

1459
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,840
I'm like, say what you will about.

1460
01:44:53,840 --> 01:45:00,240
I mean, we've already said some of the CGI on Ultron, but the design overall was flawless.

1461
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:04,400
It was fantastic. Not only in this form, but his vibranium form.

1462
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,440
Both looked fan fricking tastic.

1463
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,200
Yeah, like zero complaints.

1464
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:14,880
And then, yeah, like I said, that was the last one.

1465
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,800
So real big fan of his of his overall look here.

1466
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:30,160
So, yeah, the reason I think I think this is why we gave it a nine out of 10 or an eight out of 10.

1467
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:38,320
Sorry. I think I dislike the suits more than you did, and I think you ended up giving it a nine

1468
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:42,800
and I ended up giving it a seven. Yeah, I think you're right.

1469
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:48,320
So now that we're talking about it and like my feelings are like because our feelings about this

1470
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:52,000
movie have really changed much. No, they haven't.

1471
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:56,560
Like if at all. And so, yeah, I think that's I think that's exactly what happened because you're

1472
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,320
a big fan of these suits. I'm not. Yeah. And so.

1473
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,320
Yeah, I was down at like seven and so.

1474
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,400
Yeah, so ever averaging out to the middle began.

1475
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,000
And I want to. Sorry.

1476
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:16,560
I don't I mean, I don't know if you liked it, but frickin the costume for Black Widow, like with

1477
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:22,320
her to batons and like how when she would spread them out, her like frickin suit would like light

1478
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:26,000
up blue. And so I love that shit. Did you not?

1479
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,360
I hated that. Really?

1480
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:31,760
I love that show. OK, yeah, this explains even more why it's.

1481
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,640
Yeah, yeah, I totally gave this a nine.

1482
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:36,560
Totally remembering this.

1483
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:40,400
I loved that shit. Yeah, I couldn't stand it.

1484
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,800
I thought it was like friggin.

1485
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,120
Did not did not care for it.

1486
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:48,320
It's friggin whatsoever.

1487
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:52,080
Oh, my God. I love this so much.

1488
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:53,520
This is fantastic.

1489
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:59,520
I remember seeing like the little clips or the trailers before this movie came out

1490
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,800
and bitching about how she looked in that.

1491
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:10,000
I was just like, what did they do to her suit? Like she's a undercover spy.

1492
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,560
Like, why would she have a glowing suit?

1493
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:24,080
So dumb. I loved her suit in Black Widow, though, like once they finally went accurate with it.

1494
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,960
I'm oh, yeah, nuts for that suit.

1495
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,320
Absolutely agree.

1496
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:32,240
Yeah, so yeah, now I understand why we gave this an eight.

1497
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,240
All right. And then last up, we had our own personal score.

1498
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,280
We did discuss this a little bit earlier.

1499
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:50,960
I. Did not like this movie as much as Rose did.

1500
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:54,400
So you ended up giving this a nine.

1501
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,320
Or that's where you would. That's where you said you were sitting at net right now.

1502
01:47:58,320 --> 01:47:59,680
Right. Yeah, yeah.

1503
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,040
Yeah. And I said I'm sitting at an 81.

1504
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:10,400
So, yeah, combining them all, combining those two together, averaging it, averaging it out.

1505
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,880
Yeah. 85. Definitely.

1506
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,600
Yeah. I mean, it's it's still like it's a it's an entertaining movie.

1507
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,200
It's a it's a movie.

1508
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:20,000
It's a movie.

1509
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:20,480
Yeah.

1510
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:25,760
This is one that's really fun for at least for me to like, just sit and like reflect on.

1511
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:31,200
I like thinking about how I can improve it or how I would improve it or would have.

1512
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,600
Would have improved it because I can't go back and improve it.

1513
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:41,760
But I it's one of those movies that's.

1514
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:47,600
Fun to watch and then I think it's a movie that's really fun to watch.

1515
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:51,680
It's fun to watch and then just like reflect on.

1516
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:53,520
Yeah.

1517
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:57,040
Like I think that's where most of my enjoyment comes out of.

1518
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:58,800
Just like, oh, what I would have done different.

1519
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,040
Yeah. That no, that that's completely fair.

1520
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:10,480
I feel my biggest. I mean, what like it definitely I feel that I wish that we would have gotten a

1521
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:16,240
little better of a sequel when it came to the first Avengers because I love that movie so much.

1522
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:20,320
And unfortunately, I feel that I don't I do not love the sequel as much.

1523
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:25,040
But for what we get here with, you know, the team building and especially, you know, not trying to

1524
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:31,120
be I am going to be biased. The frickin character arc that we get or character development we get

1525
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:37,040
for Hawkeye is just so great. And I feel for me, it outshines some of the problems that I have

1526
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,760
with this movie. So that's that's why I stand with an 89 personally.

1527
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:43,380
Yeah.

1528
01:49:43,380 --> 01:49:46,580
But yeah, so we ended up averaging out to an 85.

1529
01:49:47,780 --> 01:49:48,280
Yeah.

1530
01:49:48,660 --> 01:49:57,780
Which brings our final Albrose letter grade for Avengers, each of Ultron to a B.

1531
01:49:58,660 --> 01:50:01,780
I guess there's no point for a drum roll. We've talked about the score before.

1532
01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:09,780
But yeah, we're sitting at a B with with Age of Ultron.

1533
01:50:09,780 --> 01:50:13,620
And I think it's still super deserving of that. Like I.

1534
01:50:15,060 --> 01:50:17,700
This is probably the one movie that.

1535
01:50:19,060 --> 01:50:22,340
I am like 100 percent OK with where it's sitting.

1536
01:50:23,380 --> 01:50:26,260
Fair. No, no, I can absolutely agree.

1537
01:50:27,460 --> 01:50:33,140
Yeah. So I mean, comparing this to the other movies that we've reviewed, this is sitting below prey.

1538
01:50:34,500 --> 01:50:36,100
It's below Spider-Man three.

1539
01:50:37,300 --> 01:50:37,800
OK.

1540
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,040
Is below Christopher Robin.

1541
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:41,660
Fair.

1542
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,760
It's below the Matrix Resurrections.

1543
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:47,480
And it's below Megan.

1544
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:52,520
And then go in the opposite direction. It's sitting above Blue Beetle.

1545
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,240
It's above Solo.

1546
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,480
A Star Wars story.

1547
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,160
It's above a Christmas story. Christmas.

1548
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:02,600
Oh, wow.

1549
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:03,900
Yeah.

1550
01:51:03,900 --> 01:51:08,620
Let's see. It's above Free Guy and then it is above Thor Ragnarok.

1551
01:51:09,580 --> 01:51:11,420
I am perfectly OK with that.

1552
01:51:11,900 --> 01:51:12,460
Same here.

1553
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:18,620
I am very much OK with that.

1554
01:51:23,580 --> 01:51:28,380
All right. Well, unless you got anything else you want to say about Age of Ultron.

1555
01:51:29,340 --> 01:51:30,540
That I do not.

1556
01:51:30,540 --> 01:51:35,820
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1557
01:51:35,820 --> 01:51:44,300
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1558
01:51:45,260 --> 01:51:50,540
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1559
01:51:50,860 --> 01:51:57,100
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1560
01:51:57,100 --> 01:52:04,460
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1561
01:52:04,460 --> 01:52:09,660
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1562
01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:13,420
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1563
01:52:13,420 --> 01:52:21,500
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1564
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:26,220
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1565
01:52:26,220 --> 01:52:35,500
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1566
01:52:37,980 --> 01:52:38,460
Yeah.

1567
01:52:40,300 --> 01:52:47,180
Since we're recording this episode in advance, Caleb, I straight up already forgot the movie that comes after this one.

1568
01:52:47,180 --> 01:52:56,300
The one that comes after this is going to be, I forgot it too, but Chicken Run.

1569
01:52:57,260 --> 01:53:07,820
Okay, well, so after so next week you can look forward to Chicken Run, which I still feel nevermind.

1570
01:53:07,820 --> 01:53:10,300
I'm not going to say anything. You'll get our thoughts then.

1571
01:53:10,300 --> 01:53:16,060
But until then, this has been the Albrows podcast. I am Jonathan.

1572
01:53:16,060 --> 01:53:17,100
And I'm Caleb.

1573
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:21,340
And we will catch you guys next week. Show along.

1574
01:53:23,820 --> 01:53:25,020
Jesus, you're right.

1575
01:53:25,020 --> 01:53:26,220
Yeah, I'm okay.

1576
01:53:26,220 --> 01:53:27,260
All right.

1577
01:53:27,260 --> 01:53:41,260
Deuces.