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What is up bros?

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Welcome to the All Bros Podcast.

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I'm Caleb.

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And I'm Jonathan.

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We are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed

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movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.

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Welcome to the All Bros.

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This week on the podcast in 4K Spotlight, we have

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one item to talk about

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a movie that we have previously broken down on this show

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with Transformers Rise of the Beasts.

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And then after that, we will be getting straight into

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our headliner for this week, which will be our breakdown of Saw X.

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And both of us just like.

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Hated it. Just kidding.

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But both of us saw this today, right?

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Yeah, I saw it today.

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Yeah. Oh, can't wait to get into it.

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Oh, yeah. So excited.

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Yeah. So without further ado,

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let's say we get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Hello. My name is Brecker Nurse.

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And I want to tell you about my phone or movie podcast called

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Autopsy for Horror Movie on my show.

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I like to have fun dissecting out what makes a horror movie scary.

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What worked for it? What did it?

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What types of fears does it play off of?

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Is it an allegory for any sort of message?

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I don't know, but let's find out.

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Also, I like to watch slashers.

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I'm a big slasher guy.

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So I'll watch a slasher and do a kill grade for it.

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I will cover the kills and I will tell you how I would grade it

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based on shock, methods, style points and a fourth category.

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That is a reflection of the movie.

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Besides those, I have fun with special topic episodes,

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commentary tracks, interviews with guests, including some shutter directors.

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So I just like to have a fun time over here.

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If any of this sounds interesting to you or you want to come check me out,

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please head over to Spotify, Apple Podcasts or anywhere they listen to podcasts

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and search for Topsy the horror movie.

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Also, be sure to find me on Instagram at Brecker Horror,

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where you get fun updates and some cool little posts that I do.

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Thanks for listening.

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And I hope that you get to enjoy the show and I'll see you on Instagram. Bye.

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All righty. First up in 4K.

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Spotlight.

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Ah, struggling this week. There we go.

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First up in 4K spotlight.

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Oh, look at that.

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We we got past the promo before the Sam jumped on. Wow.

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That doesn't happen very often.

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Sam, you're slightly Sam. I'm just kidding.

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Yeah, I know. Freaking hell.

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Like we've been doing this for two minutes already.

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Like, yeah, what's the deal? Where have you been?

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All right.

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So, yeah, like I said, getting into our first

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four guys, our first and only busy, I was busy doing chores.

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All right. I'll accept that answer.

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Excuses, excuses.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah. So getting into our first order.

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Play with our first order.

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Play with our first.

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Our night, five, 10, I know.

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I know I'm.

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I need to center myself.

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I'm having I'm having a freaking having a having a day.

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Getting are you OK?

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Oh, my gosh, dude, you have no idea.

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Starting off for this spotlight.

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We have one item to talk about, and that is.

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Transformers Rise of the Beasts.

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So, Rose, if you would like to walk us through.

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Through this, I would love to.

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So if you've watched our review of this movie, or if you haven't,

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you know, definitely go check it out.

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Me and Caleb were not the biggest fans of this movie.

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We thought it was just all right.

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Tight when it comes to Transformers movies,

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the first one, the original one and Bumblebee is way better.

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pretty cool slip cover you get for the 4K.

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You know, friggin basic bitch poster.

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I know, right. But for a second, when I first saw this,

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I thought Bumblebee had his hand on one hip and then like one hand was just like down by a side.

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I was like, Bumblebee slaying over here, Queen.

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But no, he has them both on his hips.

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the best Transformers movie yet. No, I'm sorry.

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That still belongs to Bumblebee.

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Whoa. Fair.

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It's going to say, Caleb, you.

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I was going to say like the the bar isn't very high.

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Fair. So I can't argue with that.

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I can't argue with that.

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Geez, Louise, I can't argue with you there.

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I don't understand why I got so much hate.

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I really haven't seen a lot of hate from it.

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I praise it. Are they?

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because like I've heard nothing but like, oh, this movie's crap.

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good Transformers movies.

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to ever grace the silver screen, don't they?

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I wouldn't doubt it.

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Yep, that tells me everything I need to know.

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The Blu Ray is the exact same shocker.

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Lame. I know.

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Paramount doesn't change shit when it comes to their

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physical, physical releases.

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Dope, right?

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Yeah, this is badass.

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I love that, right?

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A freaking graffiti image of Optimus Prime, and it says till all are one.

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Like kind of shit movie, but steelbook 10 out of 10.

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And this is exactly what we what we've bitched and complained about.

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Like every single episode that we get, like some of this bullshit is.

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designs and this

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that chef's kiss.

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I'd buy a poster of that.

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Dude, same here.

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Do I get a canvas painting of this?

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Oh, that'd be great.

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So I'm just sitting here admiring it now.

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Like that is freaking some good stuff.

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Right. It's so freaking good.

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Like whoever designed the steelbook, like you deserve a freaking raise

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because you freaking killed it.

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No, you can't.

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They're there, they're there, they're there.

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What the hell was that?

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It's trying to be porky pig and I failed that that that that's all folks

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for when it comes to 4K spotlight.

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Hmm. Cool. All righty.

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I can't keep track of all my shit today.

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God damn it, Caleb. Yeah, I know.

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this week's episode.

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Let's do it. All right.

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First, because this is a horror movie, we are going to have a.

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All right. Let's freaking.

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All righty, like we said earlier, we will be breaking down

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the latest installment in the franchise saw X.

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So, yeah, if you are new to our breakdown system,

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we have split movies up into eight different categories

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that we individually score to come to a final Albrose letter grade.

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First up, we got story writing, acting.

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that usually don't have a lot of that, we change it around.

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So character development becomes the logic.

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and then we give our own personal score at the very end.

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All those numbers get magically added up and give us a final Albrose letter grade

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to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.

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So with that, if you have not seen saw X, it is still in theater.

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So with that, if you have not seen saw X, it is still in theaters.

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Definitely go check that shit out.

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Seriously, because we are about

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you want a good horror movie to start off your spooky month.

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Can't do any better than this one.

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We are posting the spoiler territory and trust us.

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This is not one that you want spoiled.

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Yes. So if you have not seen this and you want to or plan to in the future,

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Frickin. Come back and listen to it later.

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Yeah. So you have you have been properly warned, saw spoilers ahead.

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So with that comes our favorite segment, reading with Rose.

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Not mine, but, you know,

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somebody gives a shit what I think.

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Not even one person.

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Wow. Damn. All right.

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All right. John Kramer's told that due to his advanced brain cancer,

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he has only months to live.

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He attends a cancer support meeting where he meets Henry Kessler,

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who claims to have also gotten a terminal diagnosis.

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A physically destitute John later encounters a seemingly healthy Henry

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who claims to have been cured by an experimental Norwegian cancer treatment

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conducted by a group led by Dr.

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Peterson, a desperate John contacts the doctor's daughter, Cecilia Peterson,

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who refers him to her clinic in Mexico City.

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John is John is driven to the clinic by taxi driver Diego and meets Cecilia

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and her team, Mateo, Valentina and Dr.

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Cortez, as well as a young woman named Gabriela, who claims to have been

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cured by Cecilia and another patient, Parker Sears, who just underwent surgery.

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John also meets Carlos, a young boy who lives nearby,

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and the two bond when John fixes his bike, John goes under for for surgery

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and he wakes up to Cecilia informing him that he is now cancer free.

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Finding a new lease on life, John purchases a gift for Gabriela.

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However, upon returning to the clinic, he finds it abandoned

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and realized that the whole operation was a scam.

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Deducing Dr. Cortez was Diego in disguise.

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John kidnaps him and places him in a trap where he must remove explosive

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wired wire explosives, wired to his arms by cutting through his flesh.

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Diego survives the trap and gives up the information of everyone involved

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in the scam. Jigsaw's apprentice, Amanda Young, then kidnaps Cecilia and her team.

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The four wake up in the clinic where John and Amanda greet them

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as the subjects of Jigsaw's latest game.

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Valentina is tasked with severing her leg with a jig.

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Is it a jiggly saw or a giggly saw?

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I think a giggly.

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OK, get with a giggly saw.

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At least I would have sounded like you said.

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Yeah, I know there's a term for it.

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I don't know. I didn't quite catch it.

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I just I didn't either.

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I just saw what it did.

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Yeah, right.

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With a giggly saw and extracting enough bone marrow to release a key and free herself.

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Although she succeeds in removing her leg, her time runs out and she is decapitated.

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Cecilia is able to call for help, but Amanda shocks her into submission

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and confiscates the phone.

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Parker breaks into the clinic claiming he wants his money back.

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Mander restrains Parker while Mateo is forced to drill into his own skull

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and remove a portion of his cerebral tissue to obtain another key.

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After taking too long, a heated mass closes on his face and kills him.

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Gabriella's next and is suspended from shackles around her wrist

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and ankle while being subjected to ionizing radiation

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and must use a sledgehammer to break her shackled limbs and escape.

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She succeeds and John orders Amanda to take her to a hospital.

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However, before she can, the now free Parker forces them a gun point

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gun point to free Cecilia.

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Cecilia breaks Gabriella's neck and reveals she called Parker,

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who is part of the scam, to free her.

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She forces John to chain himself in her trap.

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She hears Carlos outside of the facility and having noticed John,

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the friend, the boy chains him up opposite John on a seesaw like trap,

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which water boards them with blood.

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Parker and Cecilia leave to retrieve the bag of stolen cash from John's control room.

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However, a tripwire is activated that seals Parker and Cecilia

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in the room and frees John and Carlos.

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John reveals Diego gave up gave up Parker as one of the scammers,

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and he tricked Cecilia into luring him to the facility.

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A deadly chemical gas begins filling the room with the only

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was was speed.

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Speed, I don't know this word, it's really sad.

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We're spite.

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Caleb, do you know how to say this word?

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R.E.S. P.I.T.

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So we're spite.

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R.E.S. P.I.T.

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E. P.I.T.

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R.S.S.

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Well, it sounds it looks like or sounds like respite.

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That's OK. So we're going to go that word in my life.

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Yeah, with the only respite being a ventilation hole large enough for one person's head,

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Cecilia stabs Parker to death, but can only watch as John, Amanda and Carlos,

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to whom John gave the money, leave the facility while she is left imprisoned.

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Sometime later, Henry awakens in a

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dilapidated dilapidated bathroom with a new trap strapped to his stomach,

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overseen by John and Mark Hoffman.

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Oh, I think that one's dilapidated.

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Oh, it's dilapidated. Thank you. Yeah.

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Hey, my bad. There we go.

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Dilapidated.

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Yeah.

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Dude, let's forget just getting into this frickin.

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Oh.

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So good.

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This is so, so good.

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Like, I love so it's so nice or it was so nice to have John Kramer back

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at the helm of this franchise and this one, because honestly, for everything

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that they've done with the other entries in this franchise after the third one,

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I kind of forgot just how gripping and captivating John Kramer is as a character.

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And once again, once again,

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I mean, we'll get more to this with acting, but Tobin Bell is just such a presence on screen as John Kramer.

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And just even though we know what happens after this movie, you know, we know what

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you know, what we know what happens with him and his cancer and everything.

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Just watching him take this final chance that he thought he had to get cured of his cancer is

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honestly really hard to watch. Like this first half hour.

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Like I was I kind of forgot about the second and third, because I thought there was there.

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There might have been a chance that John Kramer could have been cured by cancer.

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But the way that it plays out, of course, that is not the case.

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But like, yeah, the moment when he finds out that it's a scam,

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like everything that leads up to that, especially when he's in the room and he frickin.

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Like like when he's in when he's on the operating table and

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the doctor straight up asked the nurse, oh, turn the TV so he doesn't see.

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Like, I don't know, maybe.

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That is just so shady to me.

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I'm sure that, like, you know, like some doctors be like, oh, yeah, we don't want our patient to see that.

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But at the same time, I'd be like, OK, like you're trying to hide something from me, right?

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Like if I'm in and out of consciousness and I can clearly see the screen that you're that

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is showcasing quotation marks, the surgery that you're doing on the back of my head and you turn it away from me,

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I feel that you're hiding something.

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And and of course, that that is showcased because after, you know, he they say that he's cured,

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he goes to deliver a gift to oh, my God, what is her name?

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Gabriella, Gabriella, and he discovers that the place that he had his procedure procedure is completely trashed.

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But he finds the the monitor and he finds that it's connected up to a DVD player.

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And they were actually just show they were just playing a frickin

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a clip from a brain surgeon DVD of how like what was it like the the

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I don't know what the hell it was called for a second neurosurgery tape.

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OK, for a second, I straight up thought it was like a how to how to do surgery for dummies kind of thing.

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It basically was it was OK.

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So I I wasn't too.

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I had a feeling like the whole thing was fake,

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just because like one of the trailers that I saw kind of gave that away,

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which I can't like I know they had to, but it kind of sucks that they did.

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Yeah. But it's like I kind of had a feeling that the whole thing was was fake.

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But I will say I kind of did think that they were actually performing surgery on him.

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I just I just thought that they were performing just some rando surgery

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and then being like, oh, we fixed you.

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And so he'd go off and on his merry way.

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I didn't think he was as elaborate as of a con as it was.

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But when I was nothing was inserted into his his head, not even a scalpel,

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which I thought I I swear they didn't even cut his hair.

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Yeah. So, yeah.

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Yeah, they didn't cut his hair.

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We see a scalpel touching skin, but yeah, that that it didn't actually happen.

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Yeah, they fake blood and shit.

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Yeah. So this is what I think that they were doing is

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that they were making it seem like it was a mistake,

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like that the the surface was just so reflective.

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And then it's like, oh, we see that he's seeing this.

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And then, yeah, they're shifting it.

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And then they just dope him up again.

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So he passes out and then they finish it.

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Again, so he passes out and then they finish the surgery.

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But I think that they were I think that like

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it was a good sell because it's like, oh, we didn't really are like

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it just kind of shows like, oh, maybe we didn't think about this,

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like about this whole situation, this this con or what or not the con.

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The it was like an oversight, like, oh, we didn't realize that

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the surface would reflect and like, oops, like one of those deals.

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Yeah. So I think there was like to keep him from like panicking.

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So like that was my justification.

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OK, that's why they're doing that.

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I thought it was like actually his brain.

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And then I was like, they're not doing anything.

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It just looks like they're poking his brain a little bit.

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And so when it turned out to be like a tape, I was like, oh, shit.

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Like, I mean, kudos to them because, yeah, I thought I thought the same thing as you.

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Like, I actually thought that they were going to try to make this look real

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with, you know, actually like making contact with his head, cutting it open,

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you know, actually making contact with his brain.

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But no, it's just a fricking videotape. Yeah.

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But, dude, I so.

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So I loved the structure of this story.

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Like this is kind of like.

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As perfect as you can get in terms of like horror, slasher, storytelling.

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Like the first like the first half hour or however long the

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the situation was from like the beginning to when he's like.

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Figures out like that, they did him dirty.

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It felt like a short film.

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Like kind of like a short film prelude.

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And then once it got into like the slasher shit, like it went full slasher shit.

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And I'm like, none of that, like.

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They didn't try to have any, like filler.

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Yes, it did not.

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Yeah, it wasn't like trying to pad the runtime or anything.

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It was just like, boom, we're like, we're in the action.

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We're in the shit.

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And we gave you that little prelude because like, I feel with this movie,

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you could seriously start watching it right at the point where he starts

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going ham on them and still get a pretty enjoyable movie.

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And then same thing, you could probably cut it off at the end or like.

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Like right before he goes, all jigsaw on them

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and have a pretty enjoyable film.

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But it's just like combining the two.

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That's like the perfect structuring for a franchise like this.

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Give us like, give us a really good, solid story at the beginning.

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And then give us like what we came to see at the end.

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Like no fricking filler, because like that was like maybe an issue that I've had

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in other saw movies where it's like, oh, they're trying to tell us what's going

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on, they're trying to tell a story in between all the saw shit.

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And I'm like, I want to say I'm here for the saw shit.

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Yeah, no.

404
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No, I agree.

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I especially love that.

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I mean, of course, it's still John Kramer's game,

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but I feel that even especially in this one, it truly feels like that

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because all of the victims are in the same room.

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They're not split into different rooms like in it, like in later installments.

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So I feel because of that case and also especially for the fact that he

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is still interacting with them.

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You know, he he literally explains the game in person and then him and Amanda

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go up to I want I don't want to say their headquarters, but sure.

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I'll say their headquarters in this area.

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And, you know, they watch.

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What was Valentina?

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Right.

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Right. That was her name. Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, they watch her fail at her trap.

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They watch Diego Diego.

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Bro, he not Diego.

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Ed, what is Carlos? Right.

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No, not Carlos. What the hell was his name?

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Mateo Mateo. Thank you.

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I got to say

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she didn't have to go as hard as she did.

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Frickin Valentino.

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Yeah, she when she cut off her full

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for Rick and leg.

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I'm like.

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You know, honestly, there is like because I mean,

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my God, I'm horrible at names

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when Cecilia is saying like, oh, come on, hurry up.

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You only have this amount of time, this amount of time.

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Whenever like someone's like doing that, they're just like, come on.

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It's like super easy.

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I lose one shot.

438
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You know what? If you think so easy, why don't you be in this fucking trap?

439
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Dude, no, Joe language. I'm sorry.

440
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No, I get it. It's like, dude, shut up.

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She's cutting off her leg. Yeah.

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Like because you'll see that in other installments,

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like especially in like Frickin Saw 2, like with Amanda,

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when she gets thrown into the batch of needles and the guys like,

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no, come on, hurry up, hurry up.

446
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You only got this amount of time.

447
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Come on, come on, come on. You got to save us all.

448
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And I'm like, dude, you try to find a needle in a haystack.

449
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Literally, that's how this the trap is in saw to you.

450
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Frickin try this out.

451
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Yeah, Frickin.

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Some it's some bullshit.

453
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No, it's really bullshit.

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So like every time she was like egging them on, I'm just like,

455
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are you shitting me? Yeah.

456
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,520
Oh, dude, the Frickin it was clever,

457
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but it was Frickin gross that she used Valentina's intestines

458
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as a Frickin rope.

459
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,840
Yeah, she I will admit kind of genius.

460
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Yeah, I know.

461
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I would never would have thought that, but that was really Frickin gross, dude.

462
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When she did that, I was like, dude, this bitch is unhinged.

463
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,600
Yeah, she's psycho. She's psycho.

464
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,680
I yeah, I.

465
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Geez, I can't wait to get into effects with this, but damn.

466
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Do I?

467
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My favorite thing about the first saw movie was

468
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the like the just the insane twist that you just you never see coming, right?

469
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,080
Oh, yeah. This is one of those that I.

470
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I was totally just blown away.

471
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Like, yeah, bye.

472
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,360
No, like, honestly, because I actually thought that they got one on John Kramer

473
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with I know, dude, me too.

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Like I was telling Caleb before we started recording because Frickin.

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00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,480
So Detective Hoffman makes an appearance at the end of the in the post credit scene.

476
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So it showcases that he's been working with John Kramer for a lot longer than we thought he had.

477
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And so because his Frickin audio was spoiled in the trailer, I straight up thought

478
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when both Jigs with when both John Kramer and Amanda Young are, you know, trapped in the trap,

479
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I just half expected Hoffman's voice either come over the PA system or in a bust open a door

480
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and just save them or some shit like that because that's like he has to come in, right?

481
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Like, he's got to be somewhere in this movie. I know he's going to.

482
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I already heard his voice in the trailer, and that's not a audio that we had never heard

483
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that we had ever heard in any of the previous movies he's in.

484
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So he had to be in this.

485
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So like, yeah, I honestly was just expecting that.

486
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:31,640
But yeah, Frickin when the Frickin classic, you know, Zep theme kicks in, which can I just say,

487
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,680
I mean, actually, wait, you know what?

488
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:41,720
I'm going to save that for music when the classic Zep Hello Zep theme kicks in and we're showcasing

489
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,720
that, no, this was the plan from the whole get go.

490
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,720
There were certain ways the plan, though. OK, it wasn't like it was.

491
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720
It was the backup plan. That's true. There were.

492
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720
That's oh, yeah, that's true.

493
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,720
John did say that there were certain ways that this that this trap could go or this game.

494
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,720
No, he could go right. His exact wording was one way or another.

495
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,720
Like they will play the game.

496
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,720
And that's what it was. I'm like.

497
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720
To when he said that, I was like Frickin a.

498
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,720
But when he like, what did he like?

499
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,720
Yeah, when he like was got strapped in to his own trap, I was like.

500
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,720
I was stressed. I was just like, bro, how?

501
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,720
Oh, like, oh, no.

502
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Like I would like I was so stressed out and I'm like, how do you plan for this?

503
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,720
And then this like I didn't get suspicious.

504
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,720
Like it was a what's his face Parker?

505
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,720
That like.

506
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,720
It when they were up in the room and he's just like.

507
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,720
Wait a minute, like how who who was that second space for?

508
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,720
Like it was only you let and then like she pulls the bag and everything locks up.

509
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:08,720
I'm like, oh, dude, yeah, I like my mind was fricking blown.

510
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,720
Dude, literally, no matter what they throw at us,

511
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,720
John Kramer is truly always one step ahead.

512
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Like this is going to be one of the smartest guys to ever grace the whole franchise.

513
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,720
If not the smartest.

514
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Easily my favorite to.

515
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Oh, yeah, dude.

516
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,720
I love John Kramer.

517
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Saw is I will say I think out of every horror franchise saws my favorite.

518
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,720
That's good.

519
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,720
I won't say it's my favorite, but I will say that there is not.

520
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,720
So I will I will.

521
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,720
There are certain saw entries that I will, you know, give crap to.

522
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,720
But I feel to me soft saws the rare franchise that like none of the movies are unwatchable.

523
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,720
In my opinion. Yeah, like they're all bad ones are still good.

524
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:11,720
Yeah, they're all fun to watch because even if you don't love where the story goes and the characters go, you're still you still get great traps in every single one.

525
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Yeah, dude, that's like there's not very many franchises.

526
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:30,720
I feel like that with like say like I feel the same way with Marvel, same way with Spider-Man movies like none of those are unwatchable movies like I'll even admit there's some like Halloween.

527
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,720
I find Rob Zombie's Halloween to unwatchable.

528
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,720
And so I can't say that Halloween is one is the franchise that I can watch all of them saw.

529
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:48,720
I can absolutely say from one through seven spiral jigsaw now saw X.

530
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,720
I can easily watch any of these movies and still have a good time.

531
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,720
None of them are unwatchable.

532
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Absolutely.

533
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720
So, yeah, I.

534
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,720
I'm a big fan, big fan of this franchise.

535
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,720
And this movie, like, again, just cemented that like fact even more.

536
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:15,720
I I had close to no issues with this.

537
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:28,720
This is actually one where typically with horror movies and I feel like we've shown this in the past, the story for the the horror movie isn't always great.

538
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Like, it's usually like a slightly above average, like sitting around like an 80 or it could.

539
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,720
It's it very rarely has it ever gone higher than like 85.

540
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,720
I'm higher than 85 on this.

541
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
I'm not 90s. I'm not.

542
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,720
I don't think I'm cracking 90s, but I'm like really freaking close.

543
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,720
Fair. Like, I think I'm sitting at like a solid 89.

544
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Yeah, dude, I got to match you.

545
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,720
I can't go any lower. It's just it's that good.

546
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,720
Like I didn't like freaking when this was announced, like I like going wrong.

547
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:12,720
I was super excited for the fact that it was the guy that directed Saw Six coming back to direct this one because Saw Six.

548
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:18,720
I mean, I think I got to see this one one more time to like make my judgment if I like this one more than Saw Six.

549
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:23,720
But Saw Six up until this point is my favorite entry in the franchise.

550
00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,720
I love that movie so much.

551
00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:30,720
And so when they announced that he was the one directing it, I was so freaking excited.

552
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:45,720
And yeah, he freaking like met all of my expectations because for being a prequel that is set between Saw One and Saw Two, this the this is one of the best if not the best in the franchise we've gotten since the original.

553
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:53,720
Yeah, my top three are the OG.

554
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:59,720
I'll say two, two is the one in the house, right?

555
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:11,720
Yes. OK, so yeah, I'll say one, two and this one with a close, close fourth being Jigsaw.

556
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,720
That's fair. OK, that's a good ranking.

557
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:22,720
But this one, it's it's come damn close to my number one spot.

558
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,720
My number one is I have to give to frickin the first song.

559
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,720
Like half. I freaking love that movie.

560
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,720
You know, funny enough, the first one's not even in my top three.

561
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:37,720
Really? Yeah, just because I want to I want more John Kramer in that one.

562
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:42,720
Don't get me wrong. I love the first song, but just I liked the franchise more as it went along.

563
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,720
Well, technically he's in at the entire frickin movie.

564
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,720
But OK, that's true. But he's OK.

565
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,720
True. But he doesn't say a damn word. OK.

566
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:57,720
Fair. So like, if I had just semantics at that point.

567
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:02,720
So off the top of my head, in no particular order, my top three would be definitely.

568
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,720
Yeah, Saw X is officially joined that that group's Saw six.

569
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:13,720
And I can't decide between Saw five and Jigsaw.

570
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,720
So you know what? I'll say Jigsaw.

571
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:22,720
So so socks, socks and Jigsaw, that's my top three.

572
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,720
Fair. Oh, man.

573
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,720
But yeah, so I said that I eighty nine for first story.

574
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:36,720
Moving on over to writing. This is where this movie frickin just excels.

575
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,720
The right here was so damn good.

576
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:44,720
It really was like.

577
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:47,720
God, yeah.

578
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:52,720
I swear that the way that John Kramer talks about

579
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:59,720
why he puts people in these traps, has them play these games and how it's a form of rebirth for them

580
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:03,720
and just they it's something that needs to happen.

581
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,720
But I can't help but like, agree with him.

582
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,720
Like, this is some horrible shit to put people through.

583
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:19,720
But I mean, to be a better person, I guess, like if this is the only way, I guess, go for it.

584
00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:23,720
Dude, it's not necessarily the only way.

585
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:26,720
It's it's probably the most effective way.

586
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:31,720
That is true, because if you've only got three minutes to save your life.

587
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,720
Yeah, I think you're going to really appreciate it after if you survive.

588
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:40,720
Yeah. And I think that had.

589
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:50,720
Like, I would love to see more of his interactions with the people after the trap.

590
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:54,720
Because he gets like like what he was doing with Gabriela.

591
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,720
OK, if there's anything I'm talking for in this movie,

592
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:04,720
it's the fact that they didn't even attempt to change their names.

593
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:08,720
Yeah, that's fair.

594
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,720
Wait, like, come on.

595
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,720
I'm like, you didn't even like attempt.

596
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,720
That's con artists 101.

597
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,720
Like, yeah, like, don't use your real name.

598
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:25,720
Like, I understand, like the the the main lady having to use her real name, but everyone else.

599
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,720
Yeah, like you're doing something illegal.

600
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,720
Yeah.

601
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:35,720
Well, yeah, so if there's anything I'm talking for, it's that.

602
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,720
But what point was I trying to make?

603
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:43,720
I guess I try. You got me, man. Sorry.

604
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:48,720
No. So what I would say with oh, with Gabriela, he.

605
00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,720
He was like he was sending Amanda on her way to get medical attention.

606
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:03,720
And like that's something that I would have liked to see more of, which is like how what happens after?

607
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:10,720
Like, I would love to see, like, Amanda's story, like after her trap.

608
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,720
Yeah, I can agree.

609
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:17,720
They definitely kind of expand on it and saw two and three, but I would love to see more.

610
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:19,720
I mean, yeah, a little bit, though.

611
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:23,720
It's it's not as much as I would like for them to.

612
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:26,720
No, that's fair. I mean, honestly, I feel the same way with Hoffman.

613
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:33,720
Like, I know that what what happened to him personally, that's what drove him into working with John Kramer.

614
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:43,720
But like, yeah, I would love frickin just a movie dedicated to not only Amanda, but a movie dedicated to Hoffman.

615
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,720
Yeah, those should be the next two saw movies.

616
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,720
Those should I like at least I don't know.

617
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:57,720
I don't know if they would warrant like a full blown film, but I would love to see like a short about it, at least.

618
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:04,720
That's right. Yeah. Like just just give us some backstory on the apprentices of Jigsaw.

619
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:13,720
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, the writing here was like was perfect because it's like

620
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:20,720
what I what I like about Kramer, it's never about like revenge.

621
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,720
It's people that he sees doing wrong.

622
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:36,720
And. Correcting it, but like doing something to them that's like related to whatever, like their sin was.

623
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:49,720
Yeah. Like how like with Mateo having to drill into his head, it was that he was playing an anesthetic or anesthesiologist.

624
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:54,720
He wasn't. Yeah. And then.

625
00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:06,720
Valentina was like drawing blood or was supposed to be the person that drew his blood, but wasn't.

626
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:10,720
It was. I love like the tie ins.

627
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,720
And then the same thing with like what was her name, Cecilia or Dr.

628
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:27,720
Peterson, like how her thing was these two people that work together having to combat each other.

629
00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:35,720
And you see how both how both paths would have worked.

630
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:46,720
Like because in that it was very much them like it was it was both versions were a competition.

631
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,720
One was just like a straight up fight to the death.

632
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,720
And that's like what they ended up going for.

633
00:41:51,720 --> 00:42:00,720
And then the other one was like a jigsaw trap where it was like, hey, they're trapped down and they have to pull their

634
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:05,720
trigger to like drown the other one.

635
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:11,720
So like interesting, interesting concepts.

636
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:20,720
I will say, though, I did not expect the whole make it was the poster, the whole eyeball trap with the tubes.

637
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:28,720
I did not expect that to not even be included in the the actual game that those people were playing.

638
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,320
And also the fact that it was just him like thinking about an idea for a game was

639
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,940
it wasn't actually a frickin it didn't actually take place.

640
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,080
I will say I did appreciate that, though.

641
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,600
No, I did, too.

642
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,920
I mean, because that was a cool ass trap.

643
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,840
It was a sick trap, dude.

644
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,800
Dude's a frickin idiot for doing that shit one at a time.

645
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,400
I would have been like crank all the way up to five.

646
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,080
No, no, seriously.

647
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,920
Like, come on, man.

648
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560
Like, dude, what it's like, all I have to do is turn this

649
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,160
and like something bad's going to happen to me.

650
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Like with each knob twist, it doesn't like stopped each one.

651
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,760
That would that would blow.

652
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Yeah, I'd be like, all right, bet.

653
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Crank it.

654
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,240
See, you say that now, but if you were put into his shoes, would you like.

655
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,280
After I found out what the first one did.

656
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Yeah. Yeah.

657
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,400
All right.

658
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Like if I the first one breaks my pinky.

659
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,520
Yeah. Guess what I'm doing the next go round all the way up to five.

660
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,120
All right. Fair enough.

661
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,280
I'm not going, oh, like frickin frickin out about the first one

662
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,720
and then go and next one.

663
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,560
Oh, like I'm not pulling.

664
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,800
I'm not I'm not about that shit.

665
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,800
Like I will frickin break all my fingers at one time.

666
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,320
Caleb's got some big old balls.

667
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Apparently, honestly, it's that's not even like close to the case.

668
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,720
I'm such a frickin bitch when it comes to pain.

669
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,480
It's just like if I know that pain is going to be part of the equation,

670
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,240
I will get all of it done in one go.

671
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:09,440
That's not a dude. That's fair.

672
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,880
That is that is completely fair.

673
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,360
The traps that I could like, there are some traps where it's like

674
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,600
that I just straight up could not do.

675
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,400
I think the cut my leg off.

676
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,840
I don't know if I'd have the wherewithal to do to pull that shit off.

677
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Same thing with like drilling into my head.

678
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
But I also know that like.

679
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,280
People do have brain surgery when they're awake.

680
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,520
So it's like, does it hurt that much?

681
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,480
I know they're like, man, let's see.

682
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Make an appointment and let me know how it goes, OK?

683
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,280
Yeah, yeah.

684
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Yeah, it's like I know that they're under anesthesia for for that

685
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,440
or just like they're numbed up to like no end.

686
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Yeah, it's like once they they can't numb your brain.

687
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,800
That is true.

688
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,240
That was good.

689
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,440
So I'm assuming the brain doesn't have any nerve endings.

690
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Yeah, yeah, I would assume that too.

691
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,880
So I think

692
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,160
to that one hurt my head.

693
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,280
Like I was I was like sitting there just like no.

694
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,800
We freaking Mateo's trap.

695
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Absolutely the hell not.

696
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,040
Do freaking the eyeball one hurt my eyes.

697
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,640
I mean, shocker.

698
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,760
But like I expected because like, I don't know.

699
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,440
My thought was just like, oh, you know, if you can't beat the time

700
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,920
or like acid gets poured down the tubes and, you know, goes into your eyes.

701
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,240
No, I thought too. Right.

702
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:43,440
No, a frickin vacuum just sucks up your eyeballs. I know.

703
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,240
Frickin like.

704
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,120
I got to say, I'm impressed with the suction of that vacuum.

705
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,720
Oh, I'm too.

706
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,520
It's got it's got to be a Dyson, right?

707
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,280
That's exactly what I was going to say.

708
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Bastard took my joke.

709
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Sorry, man.

710
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,320
But yeah, this is one I the writing is higher.

711
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,720
So the writing is definitely cracking 90s for me.

712
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Yeah. So where are you sitting with writing?

713
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,480
I would say I'm probably at like just.

714
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,800
Just because it was just so, so good.

715
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,160
I'm going to go in 92.

716
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,760
I might be like one point higher.

717
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,520
It's like sitting there.

718
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,840
Hell, yeah.

719
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,920
I was going to go with the 92, but I think after hearing you say 92,

720
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,720
I'm just like it felt low.

721
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,440
I know.

722
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,440
No, just just say you want to one up, Rose.

723
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
It's all good. No, I did want to one up you.

724
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,480
It was it was seriously.

725
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,320
I was thinking like, OK, I'm going with the 92.

726
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,480
And it's like, have you like, you know how it is?

727
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,840
Like I said it out or you said it out loud.

728
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,000
And so I'm like, seems low.

729
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Not do that. Not do that. I get it. I get it.

730
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,480
All right.

731
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,800
I'm moving on over to acting.

732
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,160
We have Tobin Bell, who played John Kramer slash Jigsaw.

733
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,880
We have Shawnee Smith, who played Amanda Young.

734
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,360
We have.

735
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,320
It's a long name, Senove.

736
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Senove.

737
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Senove and Makoti Lund, who played Cecilia Peterson.

738
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,520
So she was like the main doctor.

739
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:38,920
We have Renata Vaca or Vaca who played Gabriela.

740
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,440
We have Octavio.

741
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,800
You know, Hossa, you know, I think it's a NOSA.

742
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Thank you, silence. Yeah, silent.

743
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,160
There's a weird frickin name.

744
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,960
But anyway, and also who played Mateo.

745
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,280
Paulette Hernandez, who played Valentina.

746
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,080
Stephen Brand, who played Parker Sears.

747
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,600
Joshua Akamoto, who played Diego.

748
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,880
And then a small cameo from Costas Mandelor, who played Mark Hoffman.

749
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Yeah, buddy.

750
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:23,080
All right. So I think we're if I'm like 99 percent sure

751
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,360
our top two is the same.

752
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Yeah, I'm sure.

753
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Yeah. So number one, I think we're both given a Tobin.

754
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,800
Oh, yeah. Hands down.

755
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,880
Yeah, he is just he's fantastic.

756
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,760
He he has made this franchise.

757
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,920
There's no franchise without him.

758
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,760
No, there's not. He's frickin Jigsaw.

759
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,680
And the fact that this movie got to bring him to the top

760
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,720
bring him back into the forefront just made me so frickin happy.

761
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:01,440
And this is to me his best performance in this entire franchise.

762
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,920
Like, absolutely incredible.

763
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:12,560
They he did so frickin well in this, like, oh, man, I can't get over it.

764
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,720
Right. So so good.

765
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,680
I cannot wait to see this movie again just to watch how amazing

766
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,080
his performance is, like the first 30 minutes, especially like his

767
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,320
performance is great throughout.

768
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,200
But that first 30 minutes of him, you know, like finding out about

769
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,000
the procedure and going to get it, you know, finding out that it's it's all a scam.

770
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,920
His acting is so on point.

771
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,040
He's frickin phenomenal.

772
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Like, it's just like it's the subtleties in his acting, too.

773
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,880
Yeah. Like, I love that.

774
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,320
He he shows such a control,

775
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,040
like a control of his emotions in in this film,

776
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,360
like when he's going through and he's like discovering

777
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,040
that everything that he experienced was fake.

778
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,200
It wasn't like like he has that moment where he like smashes

779
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,240
that that bottle of tequila.

780
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:11,720
But it's just like.

781
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,720
You could see that he's just he's like fuming.

782
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:21,440
But he still has like that that fortitude to know that they

783
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,080
everyone that was there in those games deserved a second chance.

784
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,600
And it like friggin loved it, like it's just like such a subtle performance,

785
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,480
but so frickin powerful, too.

786
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

787
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Then I'm assuming you're given number two to Shawnee Smith. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

788
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,480
I frickin loved having her back as Amanda.

789
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,120
Honestly, I feel she does not age.

790
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,960
She looks really looks the same as she did, especially in the third one.

791
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,160
There is only one problem I have with her in this movie.

792
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,240
I haircut. Yep. That's the only problem.

793
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,760
Because I like that the hair was distracting, right?

794
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,720
Because I went back and I looked at like images between saw one and saw two.

795
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,760
She never had that haircut.

796
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,320
Like it was it was either longer or kind of like like messy.

797
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,000
So so it was still longer than this, but like it was kind of like messy.

798
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,440
Like this one. No, this wasn't even messy.

799
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,680
It's it didn't work for Amanda.

800
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,320
I hated it. But this is like Stranger Things level bad haircut, dude.

801
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,000
Right. I mean, this this definitely comes more like would that more

802
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,520
come more into costumes?

803
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,320
I am throwing it in costumes. Yes. OK.

804
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,640
So looking past that.

805
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,880
Yeah, costumes, I'm counting like

806
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,680
it's like makeup, their outfits and hair.

807
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,880
OK, that's what I that's that's what I personally throw into.

808
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,720
No, no, that's no, I definitely agree. I just want to make sure.

809
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,960
But looking past that, like frickin absolutely phenomenal.

810
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,160
She does. She has not missed a beat since she left the franchise and saw three

811
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,120
and the the dynamic that they add even more so

812
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,840
to the relationship between her and John and just how much he needs to her,

813
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,880
how much she owes his life to him,

814
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,680
like how it honestly feels like.

815
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,120
You can either say a father, daughter or a grandchild.

816
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,040
A daughter or a granddaughter, grandfather relationship like either or.

817
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,080
I don't really care which way you want to say it.

818
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,080
It just like it just feels so natural between those two

819
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,120
and just seeing their relationship,

820
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,720
seeing us be able to even understand their relationship even more in this movie.

821
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,480
I freaking loved.

822
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,240
So, yeah, she was absolutely fantastic.

823
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Loved seeing her return.

824
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,680
Dude, same here.

825
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,720
I loved the.

826
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880
The points that she or like the.

827
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,120
What was going to say?

828
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,760
The the sympathy that she has towards Gabriella

829
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,960
being like a drug addict and pointing that like bringing that up to Kramer

830
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040
and him being like that she needs this.

831
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,280
Like and.

832
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Like if her if she values her life enough, she will do it.

833
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,720
Like she will make it through this and she will be better off for it.

834
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,600
And you could tell that she was struggling with that because she I think

835
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,920
I genuinely think that she would have let Gabriella go.

836
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Oh, yeah. Kramer not been there.

837
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,960
Yeah, no, absolutely.

838
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,920
And like and for how broken up she is when

839
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,400
and oh, my God, Cecilia.

840
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,480
Yes, Cecilia breaks her neck, breaks Gabriella's neck.

841
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Dude, that was that was hard to watch

842
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,840
because you have the fact that like John John's literally about to, you know, be

843
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,080
put into his own trap and he's still adamant on no Gabriella

844
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,360
needs to get to the hospital. She won her game.

845
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,720
She she deserves to get the medical help that she that that that is needed.

846
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,160
Yeah, dude, I.

847
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,280
Gosh, this is why I freaking love Jigsaw,

848
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,840
because like I've never really liked people or like the slashers

849
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,840
where it's like the the villain or.

850
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,360
Like the baddie kills just to kill.

851
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Like it's it's not a motivation that I care for.

852
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,200
And yes, I am throwing Michael in that.

853
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Oh, no, I figured his his motivations are weak as shit.

854
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,240
But like, just because he like wants to kill, I'm like, yeah, don't like that.

855
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,840
It like.

856
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Interesting. A a I love rough justice.

857
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,880
And like, this is kind of why I have a real soft spot for like the Punisher.

858
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Because it's like, that's exactly what he he does.

859
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,560
It he's getting justice.

860
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,480
A little harsh, but he's getting justice.

861
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,960
And to share.

862
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,880
Yeah, so it's like it's the same thing.

863
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,560
Like for me, I view Jigsaw as just like

864
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,440
a more disturbed Punisher.

865
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,760
I like that.

866
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,960
That's a cool way to look at it.

867
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:50,200
Yeah, where I mean, I'm pretty sure John Kramer, like would it would like

868
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Punisher would see his shit and be like, damn.

869
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:57,600
I'm not that after.

870
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,800
Like, shit, I'll just shoot him in the face, man.

871
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,720
Like save 99% of this trouble.

872
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,240
Yeah, so.

873
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:14,480
Loved her. I love the.

874
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:23,560
The empathy that she has and just the way that her and John were able to discuss

875
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,960
why she needs to be part of her own game.

876
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,400
And hers was rough as shit, dude.

877
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Oh, yeah.

878
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:39,840
Like she she was the first one to be like, oh, yeah, she was the first one to be like,

879
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,680
she she was the first one to try out to be assigned the reverse bear trap.

880
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,680
So.

881
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,200
I wasn't talking about Amanda, I was talking about Gabriela.

882
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,720
Oh, my bad. I'm sorry.

883
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,760
I thought I'm Amanda's game.

884
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,280
Yeah, I know it was freaking rough, but yeah.

885
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:03,000
Yeah, dude, seriously, what Cecilia is just like, oh, break your break your leg first.

886
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:08,400
So you'll swing out of the out of the way of the radiation and

887
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,240
for breaks are like all of a sudden it pauses for a minute.

888
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
And then the frickin fan or whatever,

889
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,880
whatever the hell it's called, literally just moves down to where she's at.

890
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,240
I'm just like, well, ain't that bad a bitch.

891
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,280
Dude, I.

892
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,400
That logic didn't like fly with me.

893
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,640
All right, fair, because I was like, no, because think about it.

894
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,240
She breaks her hand first.

895
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,800
She's going down to the ground.

896
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,080
Oh, yeah, that's true.

897
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,880
God damn it. Yeah, that's got to think of that.

898
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
This is why I would I know I would not survive this.

899
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,520
I depend.

900
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,520
It's honestly depending on the trap.

901
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Dude, I do do I would just hope that we are thrown into one together

902
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,640
because I'm like, leave me all up to you for us when it comes to survival.

903
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,880
I'll try my best, but I ain't going to be that helpful.

904
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:24,080
Yeah, but I was when she did it, like when Cecilia did, like swing out of the way,

905
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,600
I was like, OK, good, like, like what?

906
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,160
What's already happened to her is frickin rough.

907
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,400
And the frickin radiation, they started moving.

908
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,280
I was like, no frickin way.

909
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,160
I mean, honestly, I felt the same way.

910
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,400
I'm just like, oh, well, ain't that bad a bitch.

911
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,560
But I'm like, OK, wait a minute.

912
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,760
Yeah, no, John Kramer wouldn't have.

913
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,000
She he wouldn't have let her get off that easy.

914
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Not not just like, oh, hey, you know, you only have to deal with one.

915
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,680
You only have to deal with it in one position.

916
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,920
You know, after that, it will be easy to break the other part of your body

917
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,920
to get out of the out of the shackled.

918
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,200
No, she's going to have to deal with that shit for both.

919
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,440
So I want to know what what the plan was if she did break her hand first.

920
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,240
Because then she would have fallen to the ground.

921
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,080
Then what does it like follow her down to the ground?

922
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,560
Because then she can like, I'm assuming, move out of the way.

923
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,400
Yeah, I don't know.

924
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,760
One way or another, it was going to find it would.

925
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,320
I don't know if.

926
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,440
One way or another, she was I don't know where the hell I'm going with.

927
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,720
Yeah, I was.

928
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,280
That's when I started getting a little suspicious of Cecilia

929
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,440
being like, hmm, that doesn't math.

930
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,920
Yeah, that didn't even click in my head.

931
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,160
Yeah, like I said, I'd be screwed if I was in a sawdust.

932
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Yeah.

933
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,440
All right. Who's your number three going to?

934
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,720
Number three, I got to give to

935
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,040
Sunit Sunovay,

936
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,120
Makoti Lund, I'm sorry for butchering her name so bad.

937
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:11,080
I played Cecilia because I honestly at the beginning, the way she just felt so

938
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,880
it truly felt like she cared for these patients that she was taking.

939
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,200
And she believed in what she was doing.

940
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,360
She was doing it.

941
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,800
I mean, yes, she was doing it.

942
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,880
She was doing it, I mean, yes, she was charging a shit ton of money.

943
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,520
But what she was doing felt genuine.

944
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,920
It felt like she was, you know, an actually good person for what she was doing.

945
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,040
But then just you find out how like conniving and honestly, just how much of a bitch

946
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,920
she really is and just I freaking loved it.

947
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,880
And she sold it so freaking well.

948
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,080
She was so fantastic.

949
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,800
Like honestly, like, you know, like we read, she dies.

950
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:56,080
But like, I would have actually loved to see her more and more of this franchise

951
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:02,440
because, yeah, she freaking killed it and both being sympathetic and understanding

952
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,000
and then.

953
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,880
Switching to the whole like, oh, no, I'm actually a bitch and, you know,

954
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,320
I don't care about anybody and do.

955
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Yeah, good on her for freaking true.

956
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,360
Dude, yeah, good on her for freaking tripling down.

957
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,160
There, yeah, like when she was just like.

958
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,640
Hey, sucks to suck, I was like, damn.

959
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,240
And then like.

960
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,600
Like how, dude, it's just like how vindictive she was.

961
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,920
I've done. Good Lord.

962
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,600
Like, are you serious?

963
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,080
Like. You're still on Team

964
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:49,080
like, hey, they like like I did what I had to do.

965
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,640
Like, are you shit me?

966
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,520
You just saw someone saw their leg off

967
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,800
and then get their head chopped off, which, dude, that was bullshit.

968
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,000
She was so freaking close.

969
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,240
Yeah, no, seriously.

970
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,520
Like, come on.

971
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,280
And. Dude, I felt for freaking Mateo, too,

972
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,760
as like, yeah, you're right there.

973
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,800
You are right there, man.

974
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,080
Mateo is an extra 30 seconds.

975
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,440
He did. Mateo was the one like out of all of them that like

976
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,440
I honestly hated that he didn't win.

977
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,160
I really wish that he would have won

978
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,160
because I feel for the most part in this franchise,

979
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,200
there's at least one character that you can actually feel sympathetic for

980
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,680
that you're really rooting for them to win their game.

981
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,560
He's definitely for it.

982
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,680
He's definitely the one for me. Yeah.

983
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,240
I was team.

984
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,880
Gabriella and like, let's see, she made it through.

985
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,240
And but when she went and snapped her neck, I was like, damn it.

986
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,280
Yeah, bitch.

987
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,000
Yeah, I was not thrilled.

988
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,880
I will say, though, I got my fourth shocker would go to frickin if I.

989
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,240
And he gets one line, but I don't care.

990
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,160
I'm given for to cost this Mandalore.

991
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,400
I frickin almost like jumped out of my seat in excitement

992
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,600
when he frickin showed up back on screen and Mark Hoffman.

993
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,640
And because I don't think I've said this on the podcast,

994
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,160
Mark Hoffman is my favorite Saw character.

995
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,240
I love Detective Hoffman so much throughout this franchise.

996
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:41,040
So any time that like not any time with the fact that like we get a T,

997
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,960
not even a teaser, just like just just a glimpse of him and how

998
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,360
he's been working with John Kramer for a lot longer than we thought.

999
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,400
It just so good.

1000
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,520
I felt like I honestly wanted to be like a little school girl

1001
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,160
and jump out of my seat, and I never thought I'd say that with a Saw movie.

1002
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,600
But like I've seen like frickin like on Tick Tock,

1003
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,280
like screenings of people like clap and be like, whoo, they're so excited.

1004
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,640
Yeah, my frickin audience got no reaction.

1005
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,280
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that knew who he was.

1006
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,400
Makes sense. Was your how how crammed was your theater?

1007
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,760
Not that much.

1008
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,400
There was a couple in front of me, which they would not start.

1009
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,080
Stop whispering throughout the whole movie was annoying as hell.

1010
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,440
And then there were a couple of people behind me.

1011
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,400
So not that big, which shocker to Utah.

1012
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,440
Yeah, I feel like horror movies don't do well in in Utah.

1013
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,440
No, because I was surprised there was only one other guy in my theater.

1014
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,880
Do that. Yeah, that really shocks me for Georgia.

1015
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,120
Yeah. And I don't know if it's Tuesday.

1016
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,040
I know, right?

1017
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,840
I no frickin clue what happened there, but

1018
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,880
it was like, like, I so I did a double feature today.

1019
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,160
I went to go see Paw Patrol with Iris.

1020
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,520
And that theater was like completely empty.

1021
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,760
Like it was just us.

1022
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,960
Yeah, so I was like,

1023
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,280
Iris likes to get up and like run around and whatever.

1024
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,400
And I was just like, yeah, whatever.

1025
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,520
Usually I'm just like, I worked out in your favor.

1026
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,640
Yeah. So like,

1027
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,200
I don't know if it just wasn't keeping her attention or what,

1028
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,880
but or she's just feeling like extra energy or whatever.

1029
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,400
But yeah, she was like running around all over the place.

1030
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,120
I'm just like, man, whatever. Screw it. Yeah.

1031
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,720
And then I mean, it's a kids movie.

1032
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,560
Come on, that's that's inevitable. Yeah.

1033
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,640
And I'll share some stories like there's a couple of stories from this one.

1034
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,120
I'm kind of excited to share.

1035
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,800
But we'll get into that next week. Spoiler.

1036
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,760
It's going to be so awkward for Rose when he goes to see this.

1037
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,520
Just yeah, good freaking luck.

1038
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,880
But you know what?

1039
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,200
Caleb Caleb's wife, Brielle gave me some great pointers.

1040
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,200
I don't know why I have to say Caleb's wife, Brielle.

1041
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,560
She's a good friend of mine, so I don't know why I have to say that.

1042
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,440
Brielle gave me some really good players of what to do.

1043
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:27,440
So I think I can make this look less awkward. I think the key that honestly,

1044
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:33,640
this is if I did not have a kid at like if we if OK, if I didn't have a kid,

1045
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,080
we wouldn't be doing this movie. But.

1046
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,760
If you just want to watch me suffer, don't you?

1047
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,640
No, no, no. Listen, like if if for what, like whatever reason,

1048
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,600
we decided to do this movie, had I not had a kid

1049
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,120
and we were still like choosing to do Paw Patrol,

1050
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,600
what I would do is I would purchase a ticket for a different movie.

1051
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,840
I am not sneaking in to know I'm not doing that shit.

1052
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,600
You're not sneaking. Why?

1053
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,880
Because no, I'm I am not getting caught

1054
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,240
for switching movies just to see freaking Paw Patrol.

1055
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,440
I'll take the freaking like weird looks and shit,

1056
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
but I'm not getting freaking banned from American movies.

1057
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,680
From American for Cinemark.

1058
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,360
It's not like just a check.

1059
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,240
Do you never know?

1060
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,920
They're knowing my luck,

1061
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,240
it's the day that they're very strict on that shit.

1062
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,400
They're not going to be that strict.

1063
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,200
And the only thing that would suck is if they were on two

1064
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,520
completely different ends of the theater.

1065
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,600
And then the ticket person's like, oh, yeah, over to your left.

1066
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,040
And you're just like, OK, cool.

1067
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,760
And then just walk up to the right to to to.

1068
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,400
And. Hard right.

1069
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,920
Sir, I said on your left, oh, sorry, I'm I'm backwards today.

1070
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,440
Apologies. I literally have to get on my hands and knees

1071
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,320
and just crawl to the other side.

1072
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:03,960
No, I'm not doing that.

1073
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,920
Like I all I will make this work.

1074
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,960
I will make it look less awkward for a 27 year old

1075
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,200
going into a frickin G rated kids movie.

1076
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,560
I can't wait to hear this story next week.

1077
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,200
Oh, my God.

1078
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,600
Let I do. I am like I'm going to see the latest showing that I can.

1079
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,640
But knowing my frickin luck, there's still going to be a bunch of kids and adults.

1080
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,480
And I'm just going to be the frickin loner.

1081
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,560
Twenty seven year old loner in the back with my hoodie up.

1082
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,480
Do you actually know I'm not going to not put your hoodie up?

1083
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,800
Never mind. Take it. Yeah, take that.

1084
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,080
I don't even you know what?

1085
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,240
I don't even wear a long sleeve shirt.

1086
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,080
Yeah, yeah. I'm not even aware. A jacket.

1087
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,080
I don't care if it's cold.

1088
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,440
That's going to make it look even more suspicious. OK.

1089
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:00,320
I want you to wear like a bright colored shirt, like short sleeve shirt.

1090
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,960
Like do not frickin go wear a hoodie in the back.

1091
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,000
Yeah, yeah, this is this is a suspicious.

1092
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:19,120
This is a wear a bright or like a lighter colored shirt, not like pink or whatever,

1093
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,000
but just like a brighter colored shirt, like like this color, like frickin like the gray.

1094
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:26,880
Like this is like that's great.

1095
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,680
I thought it was blue.

1096
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,360
No, it's just my shitty lighting.

1097
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,600
Yeah. So the frickin gray.

1098
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:40,920
So where the like a frickin gray shirt, a light colored shirt, nothing dark.

1099
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,840
Got it. Like if you even think that is this dark, it's too dark.

1100
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,800
Got it. A short sleeve shirt.

1101
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,240
Honestly, if you can get away with shorts,

1102
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,040
frickin wear shorts.

1103
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,480
I'm not wearing shorts.

1104
01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:59,480
OK, fine. My legs are way too white.

1105
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,200
OK, fine. Then jeans and you have to sit in like the front row.

1106
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,200
Not like the very front.

1107
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,720
You just need to sit somewhere near the front.

1108
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,720
OK, got it.

1109
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,720
Like I will say.

1110
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,520
Depending on the layout, like is it's no, they have the recliners, huh?

1111
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,520
Yeah, I'm literally going to text you as I'm buying takes to be like, OK,

1112
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,400
if I sit right here, is this suspicious?

1113
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,800
The closer to the double come from the better.

1114
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,200
OK, closer to the aisle.

1115
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,640
OK, closer to the aisle, because then I'm going to be like,

1116
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,560
all the parents of whatever are going to want to sit behind you

1117
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,640
to make sure that you're not doing any creepy shit.

1118
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,560
If you're sitting in the back, they're going to go and report you.

1119
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,040
Yeah, that's true.

1120
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,960
I mean, hey, can we get a refund on these tickets?

1121
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,160
You're going to you're you're going to mess up someone's movie night.

1122
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,400
You know, it's really sad that I like I mean, I hope that none of this shit

1123
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,040
like actually comes to fruition, but it's really sad that we have

1124
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,880
that like someone has to come up with a plan

1125
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,960
to not make yourself look like a frickin excuse my language, pedophile

1126
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,120
going to see a kids movie like

1127
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,200
what if I actually was a big fan of Paw Patrol?

1128
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,960
Like I'm just saying.

1129
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:30,920
I mean, you're right.

1130
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,480
I love this rant that you're going on, though.

1131
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,400
Why can't a frickin grown ass man go and watch Paw Patrol

1132
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,120
if he wants to without people frickin being judgy?

1133
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,640
That's all I'm saying.

1134
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,360
This is, dude, I feel the exact same way if they ever made like a bluey movie.

1135
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,480
Like, come on, like, yeah, like, why can't I'm why can't a late

1136
01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:00,640
20s year old guy who likes so-called show go and enjoy watching the movie in theaters?

1137
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:05,120
Why does he feel like he has to wait until it comes to streaming to actually enjoy it?

1138
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,080
Like he has to watch it at his home.

1139
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,160
He can't go to the theaters and enjoy

1140
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,920
one of his favorite shows on the big screen.

1141
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,920
Yeah, bluey bluey is a little bit more understandable than Paw Patrol.

1142
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:20,960
All right, fair.

1143
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,240
Because you'd be surprised how many bluey adult fans there are.

1144
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:25,920
A frickin ton.

1145
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,200
I am a I am part of like this

1146
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,120
bluey fan page thing on Facebook.

1147
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,240
And yeah, it is mostly adults.

1148
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,040
And. Yeah, I'll follow.

1149
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,960
I'll fully admit I am part.

1150
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,200
They're the worst.

1151
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,160
Hey, that's rude.

1152
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,640
Dude, they're bad.

1153
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,760
Really? Any time someone like even kind of tries to critique

1154
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,240
a bluey episode, like they get ripped into asshole.

1155
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,400
Really? Yeah, it's bad.

1156
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,120
It's like really frickin bad.

1157
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,480
But anyway, that is neither here nor there.

1158
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:06,240
We are talking about frickin it's all.

1159
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,520
So I am acting right now. Yeah. Yeah.

1160
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,360
So who's your third?

1161
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,280
My third, I think I'm going to give to.

1162
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,720
Damn it, I was going to give it to Mateo, but I think I'm with you.

1163
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,920
I'm with.

1164
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,360
Sanova or Sanova, however you say her frickin name.

1165
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,160
I thought she gave a really, really good performance.

1166
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,080
And went from someone who is like really frickin likable

1167
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,920
to someone that was just the worst.

1168
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,600
Like, honestly, she becomes the person.

1169
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,320
This is like, I hope that you I wish that you'd get put into the worst trap

1170
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,120
that John Kramer ever created and just hope that you won.

1171
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,560
I hope you don't survive.

1172
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,920
And also at the same time, I hope that it malfunctions

1173
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,360
and you die a worse death than he ever planned for.

1174
01:13:58,480 --> 01:13:59,480
My.

1175
01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:02,640
My only no, my only issue with her

1176
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,920
is that she.

1177
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,320
Didn't get put in like a really intense trap,

1178
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,280
but she is going to end up having like dying slowly.

1179
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:16,720
So I guess that's like.

1180
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,480
Makes up for it. Yeah.

1181
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:23,760
Slow and painful deaths are always enjoyable for characters you hate.

1182
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:25,240
Yeah.

1183
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,040
So where are you sitting at with acting?

1184
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,760
Where are you sitting at with acting?

1185
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,640
Like, honestly, this is like one of those saw movies that like all of

1186
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,400
even like the people that are put into the game, like all of them are likable.

1187
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,840
Like even though like I see even still like Valentina,

1188
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,640
even though she was kind of a bitch,

1189
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,920
I still liked her character.

1190
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,880
So. Like, I mean,

1191
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,840
Cecilia was also a bitch, but I feel.

1192
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,040
Out of out of all of them,

1193
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:05,240
Valentina definitely won, she was the first person to have the game tested on her.

1194
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,480
But also, I feel like she had like the least to do out of the ones

1195
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,800
put into the game.

1196
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,360
But yeah, like looking past that, like I said,

1197
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:15,720
all of them were great.

1198
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,200
Amanda was fantastic.

1199
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,760
John was fantastic.

1200
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,040
And Frickin having Hoffman back for just that little glimpse was fantastic.

1201
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:28,000
So honestly, I'm in the 90s with this one, too.

1202
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,520
Maybe a little lower than writing.

1203
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,320
So.

1204
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,000
Well, actually, you know what?

1205
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,640
No, I'm no, I'm higher than writing.

1206
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,320
I'm going to I'm going to Matt, I'm going to go with your writing score.

1207
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,000
I'm going to go in 93.

1208
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,960
I'm going a little on the lower end.

1209
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,120
I wasn't super impressed with some of the extras.

1210
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:57,040
Like if Valentina and Gabriella, like they were good, don't get me wrong.

1211
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:02,920
But. I mean, I just wasn't super impressed with them outside of the games.

1212
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,760
That's God damn it.

1213
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,320
You know, you son of a bitch.

1214
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:12,240
Yeah, I hate you because, OK, all right, I want to hear your score first,

1215
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,400
but I'm yeah, I'm getting knocked down.

1216
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,480
Yeah, I'm sitting at a 90.

1217
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:19,160
Yeah, I'm going to go a 91.

1218
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,960
You bitch.

1219
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,800
No, because I'm remembering I did not like the way that

1220
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,560
the performance that Gabriella puts on.

1221
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,960
Like, I don't know, just like I know it's supposed to seem like so genuine.

1222
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,720
You feel bad for her. But like I really did not.

1223
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,280
I actually liked it when she when we actually saw her true colors

1224
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,280
of her being a drug addict.

1225
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,800
And so that probably sounds effed up.

1226
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,800
Yeah, but yeah, so I I got a docket for that.

1227
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,600
Fair. All right.

1228
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,320
Next up, we got logic.

1229
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,680
So this is just making sure that the film

1230
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,520
that with this being a horror movie, we can't really do character development

1231
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,520
because there's not a whole lot of character growth within these movies.

1232
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,840
And just because they don't have character growth doesn't mean that they're not.

1233
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:12,960
Good.

1234
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:19,000
So we're talking about like the logic and making sure that these movies

1235
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,720
stayed within their own logic

1236
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:28,720
and nothing was like out of place, out of character, whatever the case may be.

1237
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:37,800
I will say I was totally prepared to knock this one down

1238
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,360
because I thought Kramer got one upped.

1239
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,600
But yeah, that's fair.

1240
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,400
But knowing that he like planned for that, I was like,

1241
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:50,880
that's pretty frickin good.

1242
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,000
Yeah. Like I appreciate that.

1243
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,280
You know, with when, you know, John Kramer was still doing his work,

1244
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,280
he always made these games winnable.

1245
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,240
There was always a way to win these.

1246
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,440
You weren't just automatically screwed.

1247
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,520
And as you know, later installments came along,

1248
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,920
especially when Hoffman was in the driver's seat.

1249
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,600
There were many times that there was absolutely no way

1250
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,200
that you could have released yourself from the trap in the time that you were given.

1251
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,480
Given because I feel like I'm pretty sure with every single

1252
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:28,280
saw trap that Hoffman was in charge of, they only got 60 seconds.

1253
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:31,760
And I mean, that was a piece of shit.

1254
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,800
That's what I love about him.

1255
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,600
Dude, I hated that he never went through a frickin trap.

1256
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,600
I mean, he did. He did go through a saw trap.

1257
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,960
Did he had the? Yeah, no, he had it.

1258
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,600
He was strapped to a chair and it was kind of like the whole thing.

1259
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,600
Like basically it was.

1260
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,720
So imagine the verse bear trap, like, you know, you're strapped to a seat.

1261
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,040
You have that over your head.

1262
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,120
Hoffman, the way.

1263
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:02,960
OK, give me a minute, because I want to talk to you.

1264
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,480
Because I need to explain the the.

1265
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,280
That kind of trap that he was in.

1266
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,560
They already watched all B rewatching these movies.

1267
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,120
So which which one is this in? Is this in six?

1268
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,920
No, this.

1269
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,280
So we get a so we get a flashback

1270
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,560
to the type of saw trap that

1271
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,000
he was in, and it's either in two or I think it's in four

1272
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,840
that were given the flashback to what trap he was in.

1273
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,600
OK, so.

1274
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,280
Oh, so it actually looks like it showcases it in Saw Five.

1275
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,400
So his oh, that's what it was.

1276
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,520
So, yeah, he was strapped to a chair and he had a shotgun in front of him.

1277
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,720
So like not the most original trap.

1278
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,720
This was definitely

1279
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,040
when Kramer was still getting his footing.

1280
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:59,400
And I feel that because this the post credit scene

1281
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,800
and showcases that Hoffman and Kramer have been working together

1282
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,800
since after Saw One,

1283
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,320
that even more so showcases to me that he that Kramer was still getting

1284
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,480
his footing when it came to the way that he the type of traps

1285
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:15,800
that he put people through.

1286
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:21,080
But yeah, basically it was it was just a shotgun pointed at his at his throat.

1287
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,960
And I forget how long he had to,

1288
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,960
you know, release himself from the shackles.

1289
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:32,040
But during this whole time, it's he's literally just in Kramer's office

1290
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,440
and it's Kramer talking to him.

1291
01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:40,000
OK, so so that's that's that's Hoffman's trap that he was in.

1292
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,720
Fair. All right. So.

1293
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,040
You would know this a little bit better than I would.

1294
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,720
Do you think that this kept pretty in line

1295
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,240
with the continuity set up in the previous films?

1296
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,840
I yes, I absolutely do.

1297
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:04,240
Especially when it came to John Kramer's progression of his cancer,

1298
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,240
because I'm remembering that in Saw Two, because like throughout this one,

1299
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,200
you can tell that, you know, like he's stumbling to stay on his feet.

1300
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,640
You know, he's walking slower.

1301
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,640
And in Saw Two, he's actually on a breathing treatment.

1302
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,240
He Amanda has to wheel him around in a wheelchairs.

1303
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,560
And a wheelchairs and saw three.

1304
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,720
Now, I think in Saw Three, she has to actually start

1305
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,120
wheeling him around in a wheelchair. He can't really move.

1306
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:36,240
Maybe it's in two as well.

1307
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,240
Sorry, it's been a little bit since I've seen those.

1308
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,840
But just the fact the fact that I'm remembering him

1309
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,240
being having to start being on a breathing treatment

1310
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:49,880
and the cancer is just getting worse as two and three take place.

1311
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,160
So the fact that this one takes place between the first and second

1312
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,400
and you can clearly see that the cancer is starting to really spread

1313
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,760
and you can see the effects that it's having on his on his stability.

1314
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,000
Yeah, I feel this like nails continuity with

1315
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,360
not only the like the franchise as a whole,

1316
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,560
but especially his his is cancer.

1317
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:22,240
OK. Yeah, I'm trying to think of any like instance or anything

1318
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,920
that like fell outside of the realm of disbelief.

1319
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:34,720
But I think they kept pretty in line with everything.

1320
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:41,080
Yeah, it was all like really solid and really, really well done.

1321
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:48,040
Agreed. So honestly, I see no issue putting this like.

1322
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,120
I'm putting it at ninety one.

1323
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,720
And the reason I'm going to put it that low

1324
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,280
is because I feel like there were too many instances

1325
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,080
where it seemed like people stopped feeling pain.

1326
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,520
Like with Valentina chopping her leg off, like I think she should have been

1327
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,560
like in complete and utter agony the entire time.

1328
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,160
It felt like she was stuck.

1329
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,960
Maybe I mean, it could also just be I would love

1330
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,480
to get a doctor's react to saw.

1331
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,960
That's fair. The only no, I completely understand where you're coming from.

1332
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,360
The only like excuse I could think of just maybe.

1333
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,720
I mean, honestly, you'd be amazed of what you don't feel when you have adrenaline

1334
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,480
pumping through your blank through your veins.

1335
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:34,040
So maybe as the adrenaline started kicking in more, she felt less.

1336
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,240
And so that's why she was able to start cutting a lot faster.

1337
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,520
You know what? That's a fair point.

1338
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,520
Did I just talk to you?

1339
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,040
I think you might have talked to me up a little bit.

1340
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,080
Well, I'm going to I was originally going to give it a ninety five.

1341
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:57,160
OK, I think I'm going to meet at the middle and give in ninety three now.

1342
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,760
That's exactly what I was thinking.

1343
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,960
So I got to match it.

1344
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,160
All right. Next up, we got a fax.

1345
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,560
So this is all the seem to all be practical.

1346
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,640
Yeah, in some way, shape or form, like

1347
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,880
other than like maybe Valentina's.

1348
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:21,120
Or there was a lot of stuff that seemed like it was practical.

1349
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,480
Like if it if any of this was CGI, it didn't look like it.

1350
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,480
It did not. I feel one thing that I love to watch for

1351
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,760
in horror movies is when someone gets decapitated and you actually see the head

1352
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:39,200
and like how not only close it looks to the the person, but also

1353
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,600
like like say, like the paleness of the skin, since, you know, it's

1354
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000
it's lost the blood from the body and just the way that it looks.

1355
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,600
And I feel this is definitely one of the ones that like has looked

1356
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,240
the best that I've seen

1357
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,240
in a good long while.

1358
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,640
Valentina's severed head looked fantastic.

1359
01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:01,240
Dude, they've been able to frickin nail that shit.

1360
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,720
Yeah, I know. It gets better and better over the years.

1361
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,760
Because like there's like some movies thinking that that was like,

1362
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:12,440
it's kind of hard to like, like see the Chucky when one of the guys gets

1363
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,440
decapitated. It looks good.

1364
01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:18,360
Don't get me wrong. But like there were just some things on the head

1365
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,320
that I'm just like that.

1366
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,320
You're it doesn't exactly match the features that I remember

1367
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,920
actually being on that guy's face.

1368
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,240
Yeah, I'm like even thinking back like

1369
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,040
the replicas that they're able to create, like,

1370
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,560
have you seen the ones that they created for Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three?

1371
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,880
Yeah, dude.

1372
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,240
Dude, those ones were nuts.

1373
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:50,240
Dude, yeah, that one that they created for Chris Pratt, that was like scary, realistic, like

1374
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,240
yeah, that kind of freaked me the hell out.

1375
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,240
Yeah, it was.

1376
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,240
Yeah, I mean, I think it was a little bit scary.

1377
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:01,600
It freaked me the hell out. Yeah, it was like breathing and shit.

1378
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,680
Yeah, like, no.

1379
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,840
Yeah, hell no.

1380
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,840
Yeah, I can't think of a single thing that didn't look good in this.

1381
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,160
No, dude, the frickin I feel like one that especially stands out for me

1382
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,080
is the frickin like blood, blood, bloodboarding.

1383
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,680
That shit was insane.

1384
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:28,400
And honestly, it was frickin hard to not only watch

1385
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:35,280
a little kid being being not not not waterboarded, but bloodboarded.

1386
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,920
It was hard to watch him, but I feel not taken away from the kid.

1387
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,920
I feel it was especially harder to watch Kramer

1388
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,520
be bloodboarded and just how much he was struggling to even catch his breath,

1389
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,080
which, you know, of course, that's how it is with being waterboarded.

1390
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,520
But yeah, that that the that looked frickin amazing.

1391
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,440
All of the traps were so good here.

1392
01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:01,120
I will sit like, sorry, I'm a safe.

1393
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,440
Well, actually, we know I can put this in effects.

1394
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:09,920
Like I will say, this is probably not like I can't say any of these traps

1395
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:15,320
are my favorite, maybe like the eyeball one, because that one just looks so frickin cool.

1396
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,280
Or the glass tubes connected.

1397
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:22,840
That one was rough to watch because it's like the eyeball started like changing color

1398
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,640
and then went out of his head.

1399
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,640
I'm like, like that.

1400
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,640
That actually, you know, I take that back.

1401
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,480
That is that is actually probably up there for me now with saw traps.

1402
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,920
But when it comes to like the traps that these people were put in,

1403
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,280
like it's it's nothing groundbreaking when it comes to the franchise.

1404
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,120
But I'm not saying that they were they were not great traps.

1405
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,720
They were absolutely great traps.

1406
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,440
It's just throughout the whole show, I think,

1407
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:51,880
throughout the whole franchise, the bar has been raised so many times

1408
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:57,240
that I feel it's OK that some of these didn't measure up to what we've seen

1409
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:01,160
in previous franchises, because I feel that these traps felt more personal.

1410
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,840
Oh, absolutely.

1411
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:08,840
And I'll take more personal traps over more like complicated traps

1412
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,160
and like all day, every day.

1413
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:12,840
No, that's absolutely fair.

1414
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,520
But yeah, just. Like all of the blood looked great.

1415
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Severed limbs looked great.

1416
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,960
The traps were just as great as always.

1417
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,440
They said, like we talked about, even if you hate a saw movie,

1418
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,360
you're going to at least enjoy one trap.

1419
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,240
There's got to be at least one trap that you enjoy watching,

1420
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,680
maybe not enjoy watching.

1421
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,840
That's probably not a great thing to say.

1422
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,640
I think we get what you're what you're trying to say.

1423
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,240
OK. There's a lot of stuff that you can't do.

1424
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:48,160
OK, there's there's an artistry to the simplicity in these traps.

1425
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,800
Like there's just like an artistic touch

1426
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:58,360
that this film has that I will say, like the ones with more complicated traps

1427
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,960
don't. Yeah, fair enough.

1428
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:06,280
So, I mean, yeah, it's super simple, not very complicated, like

1429
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:12,320
I'm thinking like with Valentina, like hers was was super basic.

1430
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,040
Mateo's was basic.

1431
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,760
Gabriella's was pretty basic.

1432
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:22,080
It was just basic, but like you said, personal.

1433
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,400
Yeah. And that's that makes it so much better.

1434
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,600
Yeah, agreed.

1435
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:34,000
So I think one complaint that I've had, like other saw movies

1436
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,840
or just maybe just slashers in general is that they tend to go

1437
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,040
a little crazy with the blood.

1438
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,680
This I don't feel they did at all.

1439
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:48,320
I know they had just the right amount of blood.

1440
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,480
Yeah. No, no, you're absolutely out of point,

1441
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:54,480
because like frickin like saw the final chapter,

1442
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:56,600
that movie goes frickin insane with blood.

1443
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,440
And it sucks because because that film was shot in 3D,

1444
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,640
the blood comes across as pink and not red.

1445
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,760
And so you don't you don't believe for a second that it's actually blood.

1446
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,400
You know, that always sucks. Yeah.

1447
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,160
So, yeah, I'm glad that they they went this this route

1448
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:23,440
and didn't like I will say there's some areas where I feel like they could have used more

1449
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:29,760
namely with like Mateo's trap, because he was like sawing into his head.

1450
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,840
I think that they could have used a bit more,

1451
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,440
but I'm kind of glad that they didn't.

1452
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,320
Fair. That's fair.

1453
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,520
So it is like a fine line to walk.

1454
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,880
I know it's like I'm bitching that like, oh, sometimes they do too much.

1455
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,720
But this one, there wasn't quite enough.

1456
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,160
I know I freaking sound like Goldilocks here with blood, but

1457
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,920
there's there's a happy medium.

1458
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,680
And here I think it was slightly on the low side,

1459
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:02,800
but I will I would take it on the low side rather than the high side.

1460
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Yeah.

1461
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,600
Yeah, but I mean, all of the

1462
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,840
the traps and like the effects that they had like looked super brutal

1463
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,840
and realistic, so no real complaints there.

1464
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,640
Again, I think this is I'm in the the 90s with this one, too.

1465
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,640
Yeah, I can definitely agree.

1466
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:29,560
This one, I think I'm sitting there like ninety four.

1467
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,080
Do you consider that we both agree on the effects?

1468
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,480
Like, I think I have to agree with you. I'm sorry.

1469
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,160
All right. Next up, we got music.

1470
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,200
And this this theme song, it did it did exactly

1471
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,400
what I thought it was going to.

1472
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:53,000
So I found something out interesting.

1473
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:57,240
That I can't believe I didn't know this about the franchise, that every single

1474
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:03,080
ending song that we get that, you know, like leads into the big conclusion of the movie.

1475
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,440
Not only is it choreographed by Charlie Clauser for every single song movie,

1476
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:10,040
he's done it for every single one.

1477
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:15,960
But it they're labeled as like ZEP one, ZEP two, ZEP three.

1478
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,600
It's for out through all of the franchise, all the movies.

1479
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,080
It's just ZEP one.

1480
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,680
And then followed by the number that that that that entry is.

1481
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,400
Why is it called ZEP?

1482
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:34,200
Because the first trap that we see in a song or is it in SOTU?

1483
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,040
No, no, it's in SOTU.

1484
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:45,160
The first like like person that plays a tape is is ZEP.

1485
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,120
And so the classic Hello ZEP, I want to play a game.

1486
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,320
That's that's where that comes from.

1487
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,320
OK, so.

1488
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,320
I dig it.

1489
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,120
Yeah, I mean, this soundtrack isn't.

1490
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:05,640
I I I would be real hesitant at giving this a 10.

1491
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,640
I could not give it a 10.

1492
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,320
I cannot know, did same.

1493
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:15,240
I can give it a nine just as I mean, honestly, for like, don't I don't like if you want to

1494
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,680
give it a name, I'm fine with that. Like the only thing that boosts me up to a nine is

1495
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:26,920
the classic ending frickin theme that showcases, oh, this is like the big shocker ending that

1496
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,280
you're getting.

1497
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:32,200
You know, we're going to throw a bunch of twists and turns at you and yeah,

1498
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,520
it's the exact same thing in every song movie, but I freaking love it.

1499
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,440
So like if you want to give an eight totally fine with it.

1500
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:46,600
If you want to give it a nine, I can do that to whatever you're at.

1501
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,640
I'll be at I'm I'm sitting at an eight.

1502
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:57,000
I as much as that like pains me, I think personally, I'm at like a nine, but I think

1503
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:06,280
being like critical one banger doesn't make for a frickin amazing soundtrack.

1504
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:08,040
That's fair.

1505
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:12,600
That's like it's just amazing song at that point.

1506
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,640
The the rest of the soundtrack, it was decent.

1507
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,240
I'm talking about like some of the other audio.

1508
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:29,480
Oh, speaking of the audio, I really appreciated that this film did not have jump scares.

1509
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,400
Yes, like even one frickin Amanda is like getting all of the.

1510
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,280
All the people together for the game.

1511
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,800
There were no jump scares for her in the pig mask.

1512
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,640
And I appreciate that so much, especially when she's like about to grab Cecilia.

1513
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,960
I'm like, I know she's going to literally be right behind her.

1514
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:49,240
She's just going to jump out.

1515
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,200
No, I love that.

1516
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,720
She's checking her security cameras.

1517
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,400
All of a sudden she she she sees the shot of her roof.

1518
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:56,360
There's Amanda.

1519
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,640
A rock comes flying through down to where she is.

1520
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,040
Bam.

1521
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,600
That's and she kind of just runs off a little bit.

1522
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,640
But Amanda catches her no jump scare.

1523
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,200
This is how I said it.

1524
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:13,880
It had the build up of a jump scare, but not like the full execution.

1525
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:14,840
Yes.

1526
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:15,480
Yeah.

1527
01:35:15,480 --> 01:35:17,960
Like it had like the build up, like the tension.

1528
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:23,400
Like so when Cecilia is going through her house and it's she's going like searching

1529
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:28,440
through all her like security cameras and then she gets on that one where she sees like

1530
01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:29,800
the figure on her roof.

1531
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:34,120
They could have easily just been like click, click, click.

1532
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,600
And then like, oh, she sees something.

1533
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:37,160
Boom.

1534
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:37,720
And then.

1535
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,120
Like they could have easily done that, but they had the build up.

1536
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,360
So it's like it was cool.

1537
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:48,680
It was dead silent for like a majority of the scene.

1538
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:55,400
And then you see she's walk like you see her walking on the roof and it's not just in the

1539
01:35:55,400 --> 01:36:01,000
walk like you see her walking on the roof and it's not just instant like you see like

1540
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,520
a figure standing there and then boom, break.

1541
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,520
It's you see her walk boom, break.

1542
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:16,200
And so it's like it gives you enough time to react to it, but not be like, like have

1543
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:17,720
it take you off guard.

1544
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:18,600
Yeah.

1545
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:25,720
And it was the same thing with like Mateo because Mateo was like in a was a vet and

1546
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,760
he was stealing drugs to give to Gabriella.

1547
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:37,080
But Mateo is like searching in this hallway, like looking around and whatever.

1548
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:43,640
And what could easily have been just like the I don't know, the pig mask scream and

1549
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,280
like like like that whole deal.

1550
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:52,520
You see Amanda like running and it's like quiet.

1551
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,440
So it's like you build it.

1552
01:36:56,440 --> 01:37:01,000
It kind of like reduces your heart rate enough because you're just like, OK, I know

1553
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,480
it's coming and then it's boom, then loud noise.

1554
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:05,240
Yeah.

1555
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,680
So I think it would have been something like if you're not paying attention, it would

1556
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,000
have. Yeah, it would have felt like a jump scare.

1557
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,800
But if you are paying attention, it's not.

1558
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,880
Yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely fair.

1559
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:21,720
So I think that that's what's pushing me at like up to an eight.

1560
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,160
I think soundtrack alone, I'm at a seven.

1561
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:33,320
As much of a banger as the saw theme song is like, I couldn't give it any higher than

1562
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:33,880
a seven.

1563
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:43,720
But the use of silences and audio and like the proper build up for jumpscare is like

1564
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:50,360
jumpscares or jumps like jumpscare lights, I'll call them flawless.

1565
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,720
So I'll say that bumps me up to an eight.

1566
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:55,080
All right.

1567
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:55,560
Oh, yeah.

1568
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:57,640
All right.

1569
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,160
Next up, we got costumes.

1570
01:37:59,960 --> 01:38:02,520
And I got to say, this is kind of where the movie let me down.

1571
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:05,560
That's that's fair.

1572
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,120
I feel that the soft franchise has never really been known for like huge costumes.

1573
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:17,640
I mean, you of course get the classic pig mask and the the black and red robe.

1574
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,680
Then I guess you could say, you know, Billy the puppet.

1575
01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:28,120
But other than that, like, you know, John Kramer doesn't wear anything special,

1576
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,800
literally just wears basic clothes.

1577
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:37,160
None of the victims of the trap wear anything special or victims of the traps wear anything

1578
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:37,560
special.

1579
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:43,080
So like, honestly, those are the only the only two things that I can point out are just

1580
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:49,480
the classic pig mask and robe that either Amanda or John wear and Billy the puppet.

1581
01:38:49,480 --> 01:38:55,480
That's that's really all I can say when it comes to costumes with honestly any saw movie.

1582
01:38:55,480 --> 01:38:56,280
Yeah.

1583
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:56,680
Yeah.

1584
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:01,240
So this is where I think I'm throwing the movie a six.

1585
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,720
And that's just because Billy the puppet.

1586
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:05,800
That's fair.

1587
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,720
Wow. You don't like the pig mask.

1588
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,200
The pig mask was decent.

1589
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,560
It's just like, yeah, that's fair.

1590
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,840
I mean, I personally always like I always like the robes.

1591
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,240
I like I'm a big sucker for the robes.

1592
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:24,520
Like anytime Kramer's worn the robes, like I freaking love that shit.

1593
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,480
But I don't know.

1594
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:30,040
I think I would have preferred more robes.

1595
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,360
And like I said, I think I feel like Billy should have been in a little bit more to because

1596
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,560
I love Billy.

1597
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,320
No, I agree.

1598
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,640
But just I love him.

1599
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:45,720
I had to stop myself from laughing like out loud at Gabrielle's reaction to Billy, where

1600
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:50,520
she's just like fetal position, just like, no, not doing it.

1601
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:55,240
I'm like, dude, girl, same.

1602
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:57,720
Oh, man.

1603
01:39:58,440 --> 01:39:59,240
Loved it.

1604
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:00,760
Yeah.

1605
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:02,200
So.

1606
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:05,240
All right.

1607
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,320
Last up, we got our own personal score.

1608
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,080
You want to take this one first?

1609
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:10,200
Yeah, I'd love to.

1610
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,040
Yeah, this is a good one.

1611
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:15,000
I think it's a good one.

1612
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,120
I think it's a good one.

1613
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,160
I think it's a good one.

1614
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:24,920
Yeah, I'd love to. Yeah, this I was so excited for this entry in the Saw franchise, and it

1615
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,400
did not let me down in the slightest.

1616
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:32,680
This is the best in the franchise since Saw 6, in my opinion.

1617
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,000
Oh, my God.

1618
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:45,640
Tobin Bell is at his this is the best that he's been since his character met his end

1619
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,400
in Saw 3 shocker.

1620
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,840
If actually, no, honestly, this is his best performance in the whole freaking franchise.

1621
01:40:54,200 --> 01:41:02,360
He truly brings more not only empathy, but more dynamic to John Kramer and what he's able to do

1622
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,960
with this character still to this day shocks me.

1623
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,440
The return of Amanda is fantastic, minus the hair.

1624
01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:12,440
That's literally the only problem that I have with it.

1625
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:14,520
Oh, we forgot to point out the hair and costumes.

1626
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:19,480
So I'm glad that we gave it a six because I would definitely knock it because I was at a seven,

1627
01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:21,640
but I'm going to knock it down to a six because of that.

1628
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,840
The hair by itself would be at a four.

1629
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,040
True, very, very true.

1630
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,600
They had a her return was great.

1631
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:38,600
The whole the group of people that play the game was really super good.

1632
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:44,280
And just the story in general, like whoever thought like, oh, a prequel between Saw 1

1633
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,360
and 2, that's never going to work.

1634
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:52,120
But the idea that they came up with here that he tries to do this cancer treatment that turns out

1635
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:56,600
to be a hoax is just such a clever idea.

1636
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:03,800
And the way that he goes about throwing these people into the game and them deserving to play

1637
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:10,760
this game for what they did to not only him, but all of the patients that lost so much money

1638
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:14,120
and they were just duped, just oh, so freaking good.

1639
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,600
Yeah, this is truly a franchise best when it comes to Saw.

1640
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:26,360
And if this is the last Saw movie for a while, I'm perfectly fine with it.

1641
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:31,400
But if this reignites the franchise once again, I'm very interested to see what they do with it.

1642
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:39,080
See, I only want them to touch the franchise if the movie is going to be as good as this one.

1643
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,320
Same. Absolutely agree.

1644
01:42:42,440 --> 01:42:44,680
Maybe that's that maybe that's a high bar.

1645
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:46,360
I'll say ballpark.

1646
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,920
It needs to be ballpark as good as this movie.

1647
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,720
Yeah, that yeah, that's fair.

1648
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,440
Yeah, it's just so freaking good.

1649
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,960
So, you know, I'm going to be at a 92.

1650
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,560
I put in my score while you were talking and I.

1651
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,320
Ended up giving it a 93.

1652
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,320
Oh, I was like right there with you, dude.

1653
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,880
I feel it's very that we just had a rarity on the podcast.

1654
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,920
Caleb is higher on a horror movie than I am.

1655
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:23,160
I just want to point out.

1656
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:27,880
Yeah, where you're a sucker for Halloween, I'm a sucker for Saw.

1657
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,920
Yeah, I love the Saw franchise and yeah, I can't.

1658
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:36,440
I can't really add anything on top of what you just said.

1659
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,880
I'm a big fan and I love what they gave us here.

1660
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,720
It was really well done and told.

1661
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:53,400
Just like the formatting, like my my highlight of this whole film is how they told the story,

1662
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:59,320
giving us kind of like that short prelude into the Saw action and then just not.

1663
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:05,160
Trying to like mix in the story with the Saw stuff

1664
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,680
where other films had had done that before and I'm just.

1665
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,240
Never been a fan of that, and so this restructuring really helped.

1666
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,960
Reign or not reignite like cement.

1667
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,760
My love for the Saw franchise.

1668
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:24,680
Love it.

1669
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:28,200
Yeah, so yeah, like I said, I'm giving it a 93.

1670
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,760
All right, going through these categories real quick.

1671
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:42,760
Starting off with story, we ended up giving this an 89.

1672
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:48,120
Writing got a pretty decent bump sitting at a 92.5.

1673
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,800
Acting came down to a 90.5.

1674
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:57,320
Acting came down just a hair sitting at a 90.5.

1675
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:02,440
The logic of this film ended up sitting at a 93.

1676
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,960
The effects scored a little bit higher, sitting at 94.

1677
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,920
The music ended up getting an eight out of 10.

1678
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,120
Costumes ended up getting a six out of 10.

1679
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:21,080
And then our personal score averaged out to a 92.5.

1680
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:29,240
So with that, the final all bros letter grade for Saw X has come out to a.

1681
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:32,040
OK, be.

1682
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:32,280
I was.

1683
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:35,560
I was.

1684
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:35,960
I suppose.

1685
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:36,760
I'm not.

1686
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:38,760
Yeah, but I'm sorry.

1687
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:39,400
I'm sorry.

1688
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,640
I didn't know I was still supposed to say drum noise.

1689
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:42,120
My bad.

1690
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:44,120
And I'm getting a B plus.

1691
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:45,720
Nice.

1692
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:52,840
And definitely one of our stronger B pluses are cut off for B plus is or.

1693
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:58,440
Yeah, our cut off for an A minus is 90.

1694
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,920
And this ended up scoring an 88.93.

1695
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,560
So it was really close.

1696
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,640
Hell, yeah, that's awesome.

1697
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:10,440
I think the thing that's really cool about this is.

1698
01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:13,960
Yeah, I think the thing that killed it was costumes.

1699
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,040
That was the thing that killed this movie.

1700
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,680
That damn hair, that damn hair.

1701
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:25,640
Oh, shit.

1702
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:32,120
But yeah, so like I said, it ended up scoring a B plus.

1703
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,480
Let me find out where.

1704
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,440
This ended up ranking.

1705
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:38,440
All right.

1706
01:46:38,440 --> 01:46:43,240
So like we said, saw X sitting at an 88.93

1707
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:48,040
has ended up below the Mitchell's versus the machines.

1708
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,200
And this is like barely like point zero seven.

1709
01:46:55,480 --> 01:46:55,880
Damn.

1710
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,080
Yeah, point zero six.

1711
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:00,280
If you're going to like round up.

1712
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,520
So yeah, it's below the Mitchell's versus the machines.

1713
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,840
As well as Matilda, the musical, because those two are both the same score.

1714
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:10,440
That's awesome.

1715
01:47:11,480 --> 01:47:16,120
It is below our updated score for Spider-Man Far From Home.

1716
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:21,800
It is below rise of the Planet of the Apes.

1717
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,160
It's below knives out.

1718
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,600
And it is below Black Panther.

1719
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:30,360
All right.

1720
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:34,360
So I don't necessarily disagree with any of those.

1721
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:35,480
I agree.

1722
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:37,240
Yeah.

1723
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,160
And then go in the opposite direction.

1724
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:43,480
It is sitting above the unicorn store.

1725
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:45,960
Which I know you agree with.

1726
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:46,760
Oh, yeah.

1727
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:49,000
Let's see if you agree with this one.

1728
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,320
It's above Halloween 2018.

1729
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:53,480
Yeah, I'm sorry.

1730
01:47:53,480 --> 01:47:54,600
I can't agree with that.

1731
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:55,800
You can't.

1732
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,160
No, I can't.

1733
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:01,240
Dude, like you said, how saw is your franchise Halloween is mine.

1734
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,840
And for how much I love Halloween 2018, I'm sorry.

1735
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:05,880
I can't agree with that.

1736
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,120
It's only slightly above Sox for me.

1737
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:13,160
OK, but it like if it makes you feel better, it's close.

1738
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,640
It's it's a point three percent difference.

1739
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:16,120
OK.

1740
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:16,360
All right.

1741
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:16,840
Yeah.

1742
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:20,520
All right.

1743
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:21,960
It is above Luca.

1744
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:23,720
Yeah.

1745
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,080
It's above Luca.

1746
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,240
Yeah, I can agree with that.

1747
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,360
It is also above Top Gun Maverick.

1748
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,400
Yeah, I can agree with that.

1749
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,440
Yeah, same here.

1750
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:38,040
Really, really good sequel, but like Sox more.

1751
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:39,400
Yeah.

1752
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,040
And then it is above Bros.

1753
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,480
I'm honestly OK with that, too.

1754
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:46,680
I know.

1755
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:52,600
Dude, this is why I love our system, because it's like there's like the ones

1756
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:57,880
that we disagree with, it's seriously just like micro percentages.

1757
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:58,440
Yeah.

1758
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:00,120
But.

1759
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:05,720
Yeah, I, I, I'm digging where this is at.

1760
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,320
I think it is well, well deserved.

1761
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,080
Yeah, no, I agree.

1762
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:12,920
But all right.

1763
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,440
So unless you have anything else to add to this.

1764
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,760
Yeah, that concurs.

1765
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,280
Yeah, that concludes this week's episode.

1766
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,400
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1767
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,960
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1768
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,200
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1769
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:40,760
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1770
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,040
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1771
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:47,240
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1772
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,080
No, that's bullshit.

1773
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,520
But Pandora sucks.

1774
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,880
So I'm not too upset about it.

1775
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:55,560
You are not wrong.

1776
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:57,720
But anyway.

1777
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,720
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1778
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:07,000
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1779
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,080
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1780
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,400
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1781
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:20,040
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1782
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,200
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1783
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:25,240
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1784
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:28,200
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1785
01:50:29,480 --> 01:50:30,760
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1786
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:33,720
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1787
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:38,440
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1788
01:50:38,440 --> 01:50:42,440
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1789
01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:44,040
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1790
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:47,080
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1791
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:57,320
So next week, not keeping up with the October spooky month theme whatsoever,

1792
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:08,040
we will be breaking down Paw Patrol, the mighty movie.

1793
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,080
Oh, man, this is going to be fun.

1794
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,320
This is going to be really freaking fun.

1795
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:22,120
So I've never had to be critical on a on a kids movie.

1796
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,200
This is straight up a kids movie.

1797
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:25,500
Yeah.

1798
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:28,220
And we will judge it accordingly.

1799
01:51:28,220 --> 01:51:34,300
Like we will follow the system and I think it will work out for us.

1800
01:51:35,020 --> 01:51:36,780
OK, hopefully we'll see.

1801
01:51:36,780 --> 01:51:37,980
I'm going to trust you.

1802
01:51:37,980 --> 01:51:38,860
I'm going to trust you.

1803
01:51:40,620 --> 01:51:41,120
Yeah.

1804
01:51:41,580 --> 01:51:49,340
So, yeah, you guys can catch that next week and good night to you as well.

1805
01:51:49,340 --> 01:51:52,220
Sam, thank you for joining us once again.

1806
01:51:52,220 --> 01:51:55,580
We really appreciate and love having you on.

1807
01:51:55,580 --> 01:51:56,220
Yes, we do.

1808
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:59,420
When you get you on for reals one time.

1809
01:51:59,420 --> 01:52:00,940
Yeah, come on.

1810
01:52:02,220 --> 01:52:02,700
And we'll make it.

1811
01:52:03,660 --> 01:52:05,820
Even if like you don't want it to just be you,

1812
01:52:06,380 --> 01:52:11,900
I'm sure we can talk either just Sammy or Sierra or both of them into joining you.

1813
01:52:11,900 --> 01:52:12,620
I'm sure we can make.

1814
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:15,180
We'll just get the whole Nelson clan.

1815
01:52:15,180 --> 01:52:15,980
There we go.

1816
01:52:15,980 --> 01:52:16,480
Perfect.

1817
01:52:18,940 --> 01:52:19,420
What?

1818
01:52:19,420 --> 01:52:21,980
Sam, what you can talk Stacy into coming on.

1819
01:52:21,980 --> 01:52:23,500
I do it.

1820
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:29,340
Yeah, let it let us know what's like the Nelson family movie

1821
01:52:29,900 --> 01:52:30,940
and we'll break that down.

1822
01:52:34,380 --> 01:52:35,180
Oh, love it.

1823
01:52:38,460 --> 01:52:39,420
Oh, shit.

1824
01:52:39,420 --> 01:52:42,220
That actually sounds like a frigging blast.

1825
01:52:42,220 --> 01:52:42,860
That does.

1826
01:52:42,860 --> 01:52:44,860
Yeah, that's that sounds like a lot of fun.

1827
01:52:44,860 --> 01:52:49,580
Like it started off as a joke, but it's like now it's like ideas.

1828
01:52:49,580 --> 01:52:52,460
Yeah, now it sounds fun.

1829
01:52:52,460 --> 01:52:53,020
All right.

1830
01:52:53,020 --> 01:52:58,460
So, yeah, you guys can look forward to our episode next week, possibly a.

1831
01:52:59,900 --> 01:53:03,420
Nelson take over sometime in the future.

1832
01:53:03,420 --> 01:53:03,980
Wink wink.

1833
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:06,220
Yeah.

1834
01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:10,380
So with that, this has been the all bros podcast.

1835
01:53:10,380 --> 01:53:15,180
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we will catch you guys next week.

1836
01:53:15,180 --> 01:53:20,700
This is peace. We would probably scare you, Sam.

1837
01:53:22,140 --> 01:53:22,700
That.

1838
01:53:22,700 --> 01:53:23,500
Yeah, that.

1839
01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:29,660
Sam, may I remind you that I have a John Wayne Gacy collection?

1840
01:53:29,660 --> 01:53:32,140
So I don't know if anything really scares me anymore.

1841
01:53:33,260 --> 01:53:36,300
I should scare myself with that stuff, but I don't.

1842
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:39,740
Yeah, do it and you're cool.

1843
01:53:39,740 --> 01:53:41,260
Do it and you're cool.

1844
01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:44,780
Oh, my gosh.