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What is up bros, I'm Caleb and I'm John and we are a couple of bros on a mission to give

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you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible. Welcome

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to the all bros. This week on the podcast we have absolutely nothing to talk about in

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4k spotlight or through the wall. Any news that we thought we had like nothing's really

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been affected that much. We were going to talk about like the writer's strike or something

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but that so that's technically ended but it hasn't ended any of the other strikes and

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their deal is still kind of up in the air so just kind of be pointless to talk about

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and then I'm pointless I mean bring awareness to it but yeah but like nothing's like it

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seems nothing's fully set in stone yet yeah wait so we'll get into that when when things

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are a little bit more solidified and then the only other thing that also that I that

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I brought to Caleb's attention it's nothing set in stone either it was just that already

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the Halloween franchise is being shopped around to other studios and bidding bidding wars

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are already being placed but nothing's set in stone so once that does happen we'll uh

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we'll talk about that yeah um so with that I think we can get right into this episode

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yeah I'll say so all right hey it's Mike and T and Grant and Billy and we are the failing

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Hollywood podcast and you are listening to the All Bros podcast the best movie podcast

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that is not us yeah second best second best yeah yeah don't say best they got some decent

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reviews if you start lying to the audience right away they're not gonna buy anything

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you say I mean yeah no but they have awesome mediocre views on movies yeah they're fine

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they're fine so keep listening for more of that dude that one gets me every single time

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they got all right reviews go check them out I have to I want to ask him I'm like did you

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actually say like we're mediocre yeah seriously it sounds like that like no hate but it's

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just like you kind of like mumbled a little bit so it's just like did he say like oh they

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have okay media reviews or or it sounds like there's something after like because like

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putting putting our views as not only okay but just but also mediocre in the same sentence

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this is like damn double blow that's fine it keeps us humble oh yeah you know we'd love

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you for it Mikey yeah um all right so since we don't have anything in 4k spotlight or

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through the wall um oh I forgot what we said we were gonna do this week um we are actually

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gonna be breaking down spider-man 3 we kind of had a crazy week once again um October

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is gonna be a weird month for us so yeah please uh have some mercy I guess buckle buckle up

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for a for a fun ride of a month I guess yeah uh so we'll be breaking down spider-man 3

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we were originally supposed to be breaking down a haunting in Venice we pushed that one

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a couple weeks um so sorry yeah sorry about that yeah if you guys were looking forward

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to that um but we got spider-man 3 for you so yeah the best one of the trilogy if you

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ask me yeah so I'm lying I know hey you don't know I do know yeah um uh what was I gonna

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say yeah so because we changed it around we and we did ask a question of the week because

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it was seriously up until today that we thought we were going to be breaking down a haunting

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in Venice um and it's my fault I'm so sorry it's fine it's it happens like last week was

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pretty much the same thing for me um but what we can do is we'll still read off our our

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question of the week our answer to the question of the week uh we only got one so are we are

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we only got like a couple okay and let me hear let me just double check okay thank god

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sorry I thought like tick tock was just gonna like freaking blast me yeah um yeah I'm not

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seeing anyone that answered on uh uh what's it called on YouTube so I think we're good

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there and then so yeah we just take talk yeah and I we don't get any on uh on Instagram

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rarely ever um I've noticed that yeah uh so I think I'll read one you read one um so yeah

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so our quote so that we asked a question of the week for a haunting in Venice um and we

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just asked tell us what paranormal event turned you from skeptic to believer um yeah and that's

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just kind of in ties with uh with the haunting in Venice because that's based off of uh I

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wouldn't say it's based off of it's it's this detective who's experiencing supernatural

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stuff or stuff that he believes to be supernatural and blah blah blah so we'll yeah

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anyway I don't know what you guys I don't think I need to see the movie anymore Caleb

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just you know

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said it perfectly like yeah cool yeah so yeah so that's the the question that we asked um

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so let's read off these uh these responses you want to take the first one yeah um I'm

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sorry I gotta take this first one just because if this ever happened to my cat um I'm literally

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taking Alexander and we're fleeing to Mexico I just want you to know that right now so

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coming from flaccid pancake uh they said I saw a shadow throw my cat off the table yeah

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I'm like I said I'm grabbing Alexander I'm burning my apartment down and we're fleeing

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to Mexico yep that's what's happening that seems reasonable

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but I can understand why that made you a believer cuz yeah f that yeah no thanks dude I don't

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even know what I'd do if I saw a shadow throw something now see with Caleb if it was a cat

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he'd be fine oh that's normal yeah there's nothing wrong with that dude I don't know

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like if I if I saw and believe that it was a shadow that did it I'd probably flip the

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hell out I just thought you know since you really don't like cats you know just be another

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day for you dude I'm so freaking hyper aware of scary shit like it's not even funny like

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if I even get like an inkling that something's like happening I'm like a freaking like hawk

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um like I don't know what happened thing yeah so I'll tell you so I went to go see a haunting

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in Venice today so the day that we were recording I was sitting like I was so cautious about

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where I sat I sat in the second to last row I checked the back row to make sure that no

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one was like hiding out like with my with like my phone's flashlight because I was the

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only one in the theater which was fantastic so yeah I gave it a quick once over with my

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phone and I'm like all right cool I sat down in my seat and like the movie started and

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whatnot and so where I was sitting I could see some of like the the stairway lights and

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one of those lights kept like turning off intermittently and just for a minute and they

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would turn back on and it'd be fine like for a good like half hour before it shut off again

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I was so hyper aware of that light like I even like anytime that that light like flashed

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or turned off I was like did a quick once over of the theater I'm like okay I'm fine

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and then there was like this weird noise that I think was coming from the movie but it was

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weird because the sound system in my theater wasn't all that good but it was it sounded

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like it was coming from like above me behind like above and behind me and so I kept like

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looking back and I'm like okay is there like some freaking employee sneaking through the

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projector window or something like something's going on and is freaking me out but yeah I'm

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I'm so hyper cautious with shit like that I'm like I I don't freaking play with scary

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shit okay yeah you just tell me that story yeah there you could you definitely could

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not handle something like the extra system theaters yeah I don't think you'd handle paranormal

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activity not in theaters absolutely not oh yeah well the reason I don't think I could

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handle either of those is I don't do well with cheap jump scares and those are just

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movies packed with them you're not wrong yeah so I'm just no I don't freaking play so if

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I saw a shadow and I genuinely believe that that shadow threw something that was solid

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to the floor or whatever I same boat were freaking deuces like I'm freaking leaving

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the gas on and throwing a match inside and just see you yep I don't know where we're

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going but we're not staying here oh but yeah so I totally understand that one yeah like

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how that would flip you that hard all right um and then mine is going to come from a talented

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failure who said things moving and disappearing before my very eyes yeah hell no dude has

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that ever happened to you not me but no I'm grateful it hasn't because I don't want to

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experience that dude so I actually have a story about something like this no shit okay

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I can't wait to hear this so this may be why I'm very like hyper cautious of things in

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terms of like haunted so you remember that old school that was like boarded up and whatnot

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on main street dude I think I know what you're talking about but yeah yeah did they knock

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that down or is it still that or is it so there it got renovated um it looks a lot better

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so it actually like it's functional now but I swear I know exactly what story you're talking

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about it may it may be a different one I do remember that there was one that like me and

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you were involved in okay so you know the one that I'm thinking of this that involved

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Bronson seeing something okay nevermind yeah I don't trust Bronson for shit um there uh

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but yeah okay so there oh actually I have two I have two like really good ones all right

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so check this out so the first one I'm going to talk about is at this school I used to

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take guitar lessons kind of behind where this school was and I remember I was riding my

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bike over there one time um I think my mom was like all right no no no no because I only

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ever rode my bike over there when I was like with you guy with you and like Sammy and everyone

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so my mom was like discussing stuff with my guitar teacher and so she just kind of was

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like oh just hang out here and so we were right next door to that old school so I was

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like whatever she's taking forever I'm going to go check this shit out and I went up to

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a a window that was like busted open right and like I kind of got like it was on the

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ground so I got down on my knees and was like looking inside the like this this room and

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there was a desk like one of those like a school desk so like one would that had like

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the chair and the like the desktop attached to it and everything and it was like the only

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one there like in that room it didn't feel like out of place it wasn't like in the middle

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of the room it was just kind of like off in the corner or whatever and I remember like

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looking down and I like was like eyeballing the rest of the room and I kind of started

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to stand up and I heard a noise and I went back down and that damn desk was gone and

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I was like nope and I jumped in the freaking car nope I'm done yeah I saw that I like

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I saw that I was like I because I was like sat there for like in I I went inside the

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freaking guitar center grandma mom's keys jumped in the car and it was just like sitting

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there and I'm like okay like you're running through it in my brain I'm like you saw the

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desk like you know you saw the desk where did that desk go like trying to rationalize

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what the hell happened dude if I were you I wouldn't have even gotten the keys from

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my mom just went into the car by myself I'd want to stay by as many people as I could

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yeah but I freaking like panicked hard understandable yeah the second one was okay so on the street

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that my parents live on our elementary school was like is on the same road so we could walk

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to our elementary school did you which elementary did you go to again Forbes okay okay for for

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second and third grade at least so I remember I was in third grade and there was this old

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barn on our way back that was just kind of like covered in trees it was like on its own

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little piece of land so it was like a somewhat nice house nice house nice house creepy old

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ass barn nice house nice house nice house and I remember hearing horror stories from

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like some of the other kids about what was up with that barn and it freaked me out so

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I started walking across the street from the barn like anytime I'd come up to it or whatever

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so like I'd walk like super far away from this barn I don't remember when it ever happened

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but I remember like how this barn was like there was a concrete foundation it had a little

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bit of like a an entryway that didn't come completely to the street and it yeah it was

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just like a raggedy old like barn right I remember walking up to this barn and like

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looking inside there was like chains and stuff hanging from the ceiling and stuff like nothing

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creak like too creepy other than the frickin chains and I like the chains were enough for

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me to be like I'm not liking where this is going yeah so I was like yeah nope like I'm

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gonna walk on the other side of the street I don't remember when it ever happened and

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usually that type of construction or that type of demolition takes a while that the

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barn got knocked down eventually I can't seem to find a single person that knows when it

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was taken down interesting it was just it was just there one week and then it was gone

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the next and when I say gone I'm not talking like oh it looked like someone dug this up

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it looked like it had been abandoned like there was no like upturned dirt there wasn't

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any like big concrete blocks or giant like things that are typically left over from a

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demolition like that it was it looked like it was just flat land like almost like there

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had been nothing on it because the ground was like like nice and solid it wasn't like

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churned up or whatever it was just there one weekend and then gone the next and I like

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I remember asking my dad am I hey who took down the barn and he's like the barn's gone

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and I'm like yeah the barn's gone and like he went and looked and he was like oh that's

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weird I didn't see anyone working on it and I'm like I I freaking knew some people like

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around the corners and I'm like hey did you see who took this barn down and they're like

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no no one knows like where the hell this barn went it just freaking vanished interesting

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okay yeah and usually like underneath the like the concrete and stuff like when you

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lay down a foundation there's usually nothing because nothing's had the chance to grow right

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yeah but where that barn stood it was like weeds and shit huh and I shit you not it was

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like it was like a Friday that I like walked past it and then Monday when I was coming

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home because my I think my like my mom took me to school like drove me that day on my

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way walking home that damn barn was gone and looked like it just like not it looked like

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nothing had been there and it like it psyched me out and I'm just like aliens like this

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is some men in black level shit the men black came took this like cannibalistic house or

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this cannibalistic barn out and just wiped everyone's memory of it except me oh dude

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that is so interesting huh yeah freaking some crazy shit so totally feel where he's coming

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from with the things moving and disappearing yeah so I'm like I don't play with that shit

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no more yeah understandable yeah um but yeah thank you to you too flaccid pancake and talented

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failure for answering our question of the week we really appreciate it yes thank you

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very much and we appreciate you giving us something to talk about do you have any like

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paranormal stories I feel like if anyone does it be you or have you just become numb to

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that shit and I can't become numb to that shit honestly it's like you probably have

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a boulder guys don't even know it with all the gaseous shit I got in my apartment yeah

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I wouldn't be surprised well dude yeah okay um I guess no I don't know if this like really

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counts because um like I think it was when I was recording episode two of the gaseous

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gazette um I was talking like shit um like how oh he deserved to everything that he

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got deserves to burn in hell and everything and I swear I felt breathing on my neck it

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felt like something was behind me and I had to do a double take like I'm getting goosebumps

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telling it right now so like apparently Gacy didn't like the way I was talking about him

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from the other side um he's breathing on your neck it's like no why you gotta say that shit

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why you gotta do that shit oh man but I mean that dude yeah that's all I that's all I can

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think of that's like happened to me and recently fair enough I mean that's enough okay all

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right that's this shit freaked me the hell out oh man Sam said Stacey had her deceased

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grandma come sit on the edge of her bed one night dude what yeah that would whoo okay

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oh I just got goosebumps from that oh okay yeah how about no oh oh I'd be like grandma

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this isn't your bed this isn't your plane of existence up no more get out of here it's

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great to see you again but uh now it's not the time oh oh no thanks yeah uh yeah no I'm

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good uh whoo okay just talking about it stirs emotions oh yeah understandable yeah that's

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whoo yeah that that's some hard stuff to talk about I understand dude what was that what's

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that quote from I hope Stacey's okay yeah what's that quote from freaking came of thrones

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the night is long and full of terrors or something like that oh I would not handle that well

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oh man yeah no thanks yeah no I'm good dude I I don't remember it was it you or was it

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me that took a picture of one of those creepy dolls at the grave face museum no I refuse

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I don't so I think it was me did I though I thought I didn't because I don't want to

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freaking like see it freaking move in my uh when I'm looking at the freaking picture okay

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I I thought that was the case I was I wasn't 100% sure if I'd taken one too because I was

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trying to like I remember I don't know if I think I might have taken it from your phone

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for someone who's just like oh like does you get any pictures of the creepy shit and I

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was like yeah of course I did and I was going through my phone and I saw that it was like

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not there and I was just like well I know I didn't delete it and so I was like psyching

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myself out I was just like uh dude did you see what gray face posted a couple days ago

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about um how they're going I forget how long but they're literally gonna let you stay overnight

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at the grave face museum lights out um but you have to like sign a waiver because like

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they're not responsible for like any like paranormal entities you'll experience I think

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they're gonna even give you like night night vision goggles like I don't know if I could

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do that even I've like that like I'm just like inside of my dude that'd be so cool to

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like night vision uh uh freaking go into the freaking serial killers room all that gay

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shit but at the same time like I'm gonna freaking like see one of those paintings of pogo freaking

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move and I'm just gonna lose my shit um so yeah no I'm good that sounds cool as hell

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like that like kudos to you Ryan like that's an awesome idea um but yeah I'm good dude

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did you see he's hiring scare actors too so it's not to dress up as John Wayne Gacy no

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it's not it's not just freaking like I saw that post it's not just a freaking like overnight

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experience like there's gonna be freaking scare actors there so that's pretty badass

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they're gonna like actively try and scare the shit out of you and I would absolutely

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short my pants uh Caleb I would love to see that knocking dude I am way too jumpy for

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anything like that he is dude I get scared if people come up and like too suddenly when

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I'm at work dude cuz like my bad jumpy yeah like my back is too so like I work on the

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laser machine and so my back is to where people will come up and ask me for shit and they'll

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come up like and they won't even be that close they'll just like be like hey Caleb and I'm

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gonna go up what oh my god dude damn I'm super freaking jumpy dude like I do not play with

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horror shit not if I can avoid it okay you know what understandable please god damn Jesus

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all right uh so anyway thank you to those of you that answered our question of the week

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and to Sam for probably make me not sleep well yeah same here but I hope that you and

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say you and Stacey are okay oh so with that let's say we get into this week's breakdown

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let's do it

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all righty so like we said earlier we will be breaking down at spider-man 3 one of our

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more last minute episodes this is probably like the most last minute that we've ever

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had because it's like because you message me at like what five no I don't think I messaged

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you that late didn't yeah I messaged you like noon did you really or like or noon my time

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oh um oh no you you messaged me at six I did yeah I said that was about four o'clock your

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time what that's what time I got it it says 6 11 that's when you ask could you chance

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or record tonight oh I'm sorry I thought we're talking about like switching the movie oh

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my bad oh switch in the movie yeah switch in the movie was earlier did okay yeah you

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miss yeah you're right like one okay yeah yeah he's right yeah freaking yeah that yeah

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that probably is that is yeah yeah this definitely is our most last minute episode yeah damn

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um all right so if you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different

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categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade the eight

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costumes and then we give our own personal score at the very end all those numbers get

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that we compare two movies of a similar grade it also gives a ranking so it's kind of fun

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to see where it ends up in the ranking but yeah so it doesn't really matter all that

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much despite what we may say on tick tock yeah so with that if you have not seen Spongebob

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Spider-Man 3 you are way late to the freaking game you've had like 16 years i think it's

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exactly 16 years that you've had yeah just about when did this come out it came out 2007

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holy shit yeah it came out a long while ago so you guys have no excuse for uh for not

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seeing this telling time with rose okay let's let's let's start that one on telling time

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with rose i like it let's do it dude that one's good and you know it yeah that yeah

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all right sam that's a good one oh man but yeah so you have been properly warned um so

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yeah if you listen beyond this point and anything from this movie is spoiled for you sex but

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you it does yeah yeah we've we've given you our uh our appropriate warning so uh so with

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that rose is about to spoil the entire movie for you uh in our favorite segment that we

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like to call reading with rose i have to do things like backwards it's weird

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all right Peter Parker plans to propose to Mary Jane Watson who has made her Broadway musical debut

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in Central Park a meteorite lands near the two and an extraterrestrial symbiote follows Peter

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to his apartment by attaching to his motorbike Harry Osborn knowing Peter is Spider-Man seeks

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to avenge his father Norman's death using Norman's performance enhancing gas and green goblin

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technology he battles Peter to an event to an eventual stalemate developing partial amnesia

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meanwhile police pursue escaped escaped convict Flint Marco who visits his wife and sick daughter

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before fleeing falling into an experimental particle accelerator that fuses his body with

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the surrounding sand he gains the ability to control and reform his body with sand becoming

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Sandman during a festival honoring Spider-Man for saving Glenn Stacey's life Peter kisses her to

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please the crowd angering Mary Jane Marco then robs an armor truck and escapes after defeating

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Spider-Man NYPD Captain George Stacey Gwen's father informs Peter and his aunt and his aunt may

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that Marco is Uncle Ben's true killer the deceased Dennis Cardin was Marco's accomplice at the

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apartment the symbiote as a silamates a sure as oh my god as a simulates that's the word

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she's always I was like I don't know what the hell you're trying to say right now

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the Spider-Man suit is Peter sleeps in it while waiting for Marco to come out of hiding

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Peter awakens on top of a building discovering that the symbiote has colored his suit black

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and enhanced his powers however it also brings out aggressive traits of his personality

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Peter locates and battles Marco in a subway tunnel discovering that water is his weakness he

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opens a pipe releasing water that reduces Marco to mud and washes him away in a sewer

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Peter's changed demeanor alienates Mary Jane who also receives negative reviews from critics

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she shares she shares a tender moment with Harry but leaves in regret urged by hallucination of his

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father Harry recovers from his in amnesia and forces Mary Jane to break up with Peter Harry

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later meets up with Peter and tells him that Mary Jane loves him under the symbiotes influence

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Peter confronts Harry and spitefully says his father never loved him as Peter leaves after an

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ensuing fight Harry throws a pumpkin bomb at him but the former deflects it back scorching the

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latter's face at the Daily Bugle Peter exposes rival photographer Eddie Brock whose fake photos

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incriminate Spider-Man publisher J Jonah Jameson fires Brock and promotes Peter to staff photographer

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later Peter brings one to a jazz club where Mary Jane now works in an attempt to make her jealous

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Peter interrupts Mary Jane's performance and dances with Gwen in front of her upon realizing

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Peter's true intentions Gwen apologizes to Mary Jane and leaves after assaulting the bouncers and

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accidentally hitting Mary Jane Peter realizes that the symbiote is corrupting him retreating to a

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church's bell tower and discovering that the sounds of clanging metal weaken the creature

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Peter removes the symbiote Brock is at the same church and becomes a symbiote's new host

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as venom Brock locates a still-living Marco and convinces him to join forces to kill Spider-Man

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Brock abducts Mary Jane and holds her captive from a web at a construction site intending to kill her

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in revenge for Peter ruining him while Marco keeps the police at bay after Harry declines to help

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Peter Harry's butler reveals that Norman's death was not Spider-Man's fault while Brock and Marco

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pin Peter down Harry arrives to help Peter and save Mary Jane Brock attempts to impale Peter with

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Harry's glider but Harry jumps in and is impaled instead while remembering the symbiote's weakness

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Peter assembles a pair a perimeter of metal pipes to create a sonic attack weakening weakening it and

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allowing Peter to separate Brock from the symbiote Peter activates a pumpkin bomb and throws it at the

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hot at the hostess symbiote having become addicted to its influence Brock attempts to save the symbiote

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and both are vaporized Marco explains that Ben's death was an accident that has haunted him and

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that everything he has done was to help his daughter uh sorry Peter forgives Marco allowing

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him to escape Peter and Harry reconcile before the latter dies from his injuries sometime after

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Harry's funeral Peter visits Mary Jane at the jazz club where they embrace and share a dance nice yeah

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oh so I don't know about you but I feel if it weren't for the meddling of Sony and wanting

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certain things put into this movie um this could have been a way better third movie

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uh row no freaking like the only symbiote that are so from what I've seen is Sam Raimi never wanted

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them venom in this movie he wanted the two villains to be Harry Harry's green goblin and

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sandman that's it um but so with since he didn't want venom I can't remember is that including the

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the symbiote for spider-man or was he wanting to include that no so you can't really have venom

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without the symbiote fair so he didn't venom at the time was a newer character but he was wildly

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popular with fans and so that's why Sony was pushing real hard because they I think they

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wanted to get some of that venom money out um like for venom merchandise and shit so they wanted

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a reason to sell some more of his shit um so yeah they pressured Sam Raimi like really freaking hard

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to put venom in this so I don't think Sam Raimi wanted I think he was fine introducing venom at

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the end because there was I mean there was talks of a spider-man 4 all like there was like there

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I think they had like a line or a plan in place to release the spider-man 4 yeah he already had

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his lineup of villains ready his main one he wanted it to be the vulture yeah which would have been

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freaking sick yeah that that would have been awesome um but yeah so yeah he was he was kind

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of forced to uh to throw venom in and so he didn't know how to handle venom what is the the issue

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he's like I knew how to handle green goblin I knew how to handle doc ock I knew how to handle

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sandman he I did not know anything about venom other than what he was told and what he was told

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was that venom's kind of a goofy character that's what I turned into turn peter into a goofy

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character yeah I think that's what I've always appreciated um with Sam Raimi as a director when

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it came to the spider-man movies he picked like the most well-known but they've had so much um

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character development throughout the years that there's so much um material that you can look

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back on to fully understand these villains and so like there's so many directions that you can take

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them in and so I feel with green goblin and dr octopus he freaking nailed it so perfectly

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because not only for what he wanted to add to them but also just the constant decades of material

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that he had thanks to the comic books uh that they were in um but yeah like you said venom was

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a brand new character um definitely one of a definitely a goofy character um and like honestly

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a hot take um he has never been one of my favorite spider-man villains and um I've never understood

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the huge hype for him like don't get him wrong I don't hate the character um honestly I think it's

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it's just because he's a he's a cool looking character I think that's the hype yeah I mean

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and hell in the new in venom and venom too yeah I will fully admit he looked badass he looked

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awesome but just I've never gotten the character development from venom that I get from Norman

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Osborn from Otto Octavius um even flint marco especially in this movie um just you seen have

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you seen the thing talking about like uh like the like the canon events it was like shortly after

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across the spider verse came out um there was a lot of different writers and stuff talking about

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like canon events right okay and like one of the big ones is there needs to be an uncle ben figure

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so according to some venom writers they were saying that Peter Parker is venom's uncle ben

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what the shit yeah like that's that's his equivalent it's this the first person that he

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bonded to on this new world created like a bond with the and then ultimately got rejected

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by his first host and so that's why he holds such disdain for spider-man is because

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venna or Peter Parker was venom's first love more or less and then that that person like rejected

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him like who he was and like even went as far as like actively attacking him

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even went as far as like actively attacking him with like the the the the sound waves and

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and everything yeah that is so interesting yeah like super interesting take right yeah

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i kind of dig that i like yeah so that's like that's venom's obsession with spider-man

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it okay i could totally buy that okay yeah i totally do too but yeah i

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venom he just wasn't established well he was not like honestly i don't blame um i mean we'll get

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to acting with this but i don't blame taufer grace at all i feel he did the best that he could with

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what he was given for the character of not only eddie brock but venom as well yeah do i will say

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if they were to have handled venom in more of the way that they have dealt with him in the

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recent one with tom hardy where there's like a dialogue between like you can hear that inner

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dialogue between the host and and venom i think you could have done some really good things with

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that and made him a little bit better well received i agree because yeah when it comes to that kind of

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stuff like that's honestly that's like some of my favorite parts of the previous two venom films

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just when they're freaking when um eddie and venom are just like going at it at each other like

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freaking love that shit yeah so like i i think that they could have touched upon that but again

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you're just what you're dealing with is someone who was a grew up being a fan of spider-man and

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then having to basically shoehorn this new character that he knew nothing about into his film

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yeah a film that he already had kind of a set plan for yeah i would love to see or hear what sam

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raimi's original plan for spider-man 3 was same dude same like i don't need it to be thrown into

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to production or anything i just want to i want him to release like a book like this is like what

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spider-man 3 should have been yeah i would love that yeah i buy that shit day one dude no joke

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like i'd have that shit on pre-order yeah dude same yeah damn missed opportunity

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yeah freaking audio book it with the the cast members dude that'd be sick whoa that'd be amazing

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um but i mean looking past venom you know and just how that just should have never been added to this

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third movie um i i'll there are some other parts that you're just like what the hell were you know

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were they thinking definitely gotta you know bring up bully maguire um the freaking uh the dancing

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scenes um the those get cringier on every watch i don't know about you

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they don't they don't age well no they do not but i think they've become such a freaking staple

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in care in spider-man lore that it's kind of like it's become funny like it's turned from cringy to

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freaking to funny yeah um but i mean there there is still a lot to love with this story um you know

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looking past like all the some of the problems that you might have with the symbiote when it

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comes to peter parker you still get some great moments with not only peter parker but spider-man

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um just uh you know seeing him deal with you know of course his relationship with mary jane

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um and how it's just been on honestly once once the symbiote you know enters him it's just up and

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down for him with that um what he goes through with harry especially um that's always been my

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one of my favorite parts of this third movie um you know uh freaking how you see how much hatred

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harry has towards peter for killing his father um and you know the whole accident with his amnesia

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and then just you know just everything else that happens but then finally they actually reconcile

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at the end and there's there's an ounce of peace with them as harry passes away and then

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as harry passes away um which i'm very grateful for i'm i'm really glad that they that harry didn't

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freaking die hating peter because that would have freaking sucked i would have hated that

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um that was a great call dude like to not end it that way yeah i can't imagine that a reconciliation

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between the two like oh man but whenever so when i was reading that um the when oh my god what's

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the butler's name again uh

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uh sorry houseman oh he just says houseman yeah that's yeah he's played by john patten

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oh and he's just credited as houseman oh um whenever i think of do even when i'm watching

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the movie when that scene comes up the only thing that i can think of is have you seen the how it

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should have ended for spider-man 3 please it's been forever since i've seen it but yeah the part

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where he's explaining to harry he's just like the night your father died he was impaled by his own

393
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:35,680
glider it was his own fault and harry's just like you were so far what what but i thought you wanted

394
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:43,920
to know the truth he's like i took a grenade to the face dude that that's like the only thing

395
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:54,000
that i can think of when i see that scene dude i will say i don't i have real mixed feelings about

396
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:03,920
the harry becoming the new goblin that's fair um like i'll fully admit when it came to like harry

397
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,960
becoming the new green goblin i feel it was handled better in like the 2000 series was it the

398
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night no i think was the 90 series was it the 90s shit when did that series come out like the

399
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:24,560
animated one yeah which so which one i mean there's been i swear it's 90 spider-man let me yeah so

400
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:31,680
the you're talking about the uh like the spider-man we grew up on yes yeah that was night that was 90

401
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,480
spider-man okay so 90 spider-man um like i freaking remember the way that they tackled harry becoming

402
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:45,200
um harry harry wow i remember how they tackled harry becoming the green goblin after after norman

403
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:52,640
um died um and just freaking how terrifying he becomes um and just i don't know when someone

404
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:58,960
becomes the new goblin i expect them to be freaking terrifying like say what you will about the amazing

405
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,760
spider-man too but at least harry like he was actually like felt like the green goblin he was

406
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:13,040
actually intimidating like you could tell that the uh what entered his body like f'd him up um and

407
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,480
you felt that way with norman osborne in the first spider-man movie um so the fact that even though

408
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:25,520
we see that james franko's harry osborne is injected with the goblin serum right yeah we see

409
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:34,560
that right no that's the part that i have an issue with yeah but i felt like at the end so at the end

410
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:41,920
of spider-man 2 he takes that knife and throws it through the the window or that mirror remember

411
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,800
yeah um i don't remember if it was like an end credit scene or part of the movie but he throws

412
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:55,840
it through and the machine that norman used to become the green goblin is in there along with

413
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:05,840
the serum um you never see harry take this serum i don't think i think you see well

414
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,720
hold up yes you do because yeah i see you see him come out of the chamber okay yeah that's

415
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,520
what i thought yeah you don't see him inject himself with anything but you see him like coming

416
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:24,560
out of the same chamber okay and i think that like that's as far as that goes but yeah that doesn't

417
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:31,920
affect his like personality at all really his psyche at all yeah he doesn't yeah um he never

418
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:38,160
feels like the green goblin yeah that like that's what what's kind of got me because

419
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:47,840
i remember reading something i think it might have been like uh like the book adaptation of

420
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:57,920
this movie and them saying that he altered the formula to not have the kind of impact that it

421
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,440
would have on his mind so it would give him all the perks of being the goblin without any of the

422
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:11,920
mental uh effects but that i think that's what's got me confused it's because like

423
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:21,600
it doesn't seem like harry has any of like the mental issues that norman did yeah so he would

424
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,960
have had to alter it if that's the case you're taking all the fun out of the green goblin

425
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:35,440
yes but that's not the like the issue that i have the issue i have is you set harry up as kind of

426
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:42,480
the dummy in the first movie he's not as smart as peter he's not as smart as his dad so you're just

427
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:50,640
telling me that he was able to take this formula that drove his dad to insanity and altered it to

428
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:57,040
get rid of that side effect yeah dude seriously even in the second one he's made out to be even

429
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:03,840
more of a dummy i feel yeah because i mean he i mean yeah you're i mean you're dealing with that

430
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:09,680
too and then like you you've already showed that he has mental issues he talked communicated with

431
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:18,960
his dad yeah so it's like the hell i know you set this up in a way that he'd have the same issues as

432
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:26,560
norman yeah but you didn't like there was no follow-up like and i'm sure james franco could

433
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:32,320
have played psycho just as well i mean probably not as well as um william defoe but i think he

434
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:41,120
could have done really well yeah i swear that we've seen him do that before so why did why why

435
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:47,760
change it why change what the green goblin serum does to somebody or the eye like i said dude i

436
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:55,760
would love to see what this movie originally was same yeah because i i feel if sam raimi would have

437
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:01,600
truly been able to get his vision we could have had one of the best superhero trilogies ever made

438
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:07,920
this could have been on the levels of guardians i dude i absolutely believe that because the first

439
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:17,280
and second are near perfection they all especially that oh dude like absolutely the second one's just

440
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:24,400
chef's kiss yeah you you can't get better than that no you cannot that sets the bar so high

441
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:30,000
i think it would i think you still would have had issues with the third this like true regardless

442
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:39,280
of how good it was just because of how good number two was yeah that's a good point um but yeah uh

443
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:51,840
i mean i want to google something real quick um spider-man all right dude what kind of bullshit

444
00:53:51,840 --> 00:54:00,720
is freaking screen rant why what happened so i i googled like what was the original plan for

445
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:07,360
spider-man 3 and it says think spider-man 3 was bad the original plan would have been so much worse

446
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:16,160
uh let's see spider-man 3 so this is what what this says um spider-man 3 was almost split into

447
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:23,440
two movies that would have been fine yeah um originally spider-man 3 was going to explore

448
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:30,080
peter learning that he wasn't a sinless vigilante and even though he considered villains could

449
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,600
and even though he considered villains could have humanity in them and in order to give

450
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:43,600
closure to harry osborne's story um he was brought back with the intention of being somewhere between

451
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,840
his father's legacy and being his own person sandman was later added as an antagonist and

452
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:56,560
after pressure from producer eve eva rad rami added eddie brock and venom as well

453
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:07,120
splitting spider-man 3 into two parts could have made each one less uh venom's addition

454
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:14,320
imperative about force especially dude this i freaking hate screen rant the original pitch

455
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:21,520
for spiderman 3 skewed venom or the symbiotes black suit with vulture instead of instead as

456
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:29,280
the main protagonist while sandman would be the secondary villain as in the final cut so originally

457
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:37,360
i guess it was vulture that was meant to be the the main villain i'm all for in the opening yeah

458
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:43,040
in the opening of the film spider-man would respond to a replete police report of a robbery

459
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,080
by a new villain the vulture and would have foiled him and thrown him in jail leaving tombs to

460
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,760
develop an intense hatred towards him sharing his cell with flint marco who would also gain

461
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:59,760
superpowers involving sand physiology and morphing tombs would talk marco into joining him in

462
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:06,240
a quest for vengeance against the wall crawler and would enact a prison break corralling other

463
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:12,080
escaped convicts to start riots and mass looting to draw spider-man out and wear him out trying

464
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:20,880
to stop and quell them in 2005 if vulture was removed from the script replaced with

465
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:27,120
harry osborne the new goblin and venom uh keeping sandman's role

466
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,640
uh producers felt ramey's take on vulture did not make for an overly compelling villain fair

467
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:43,040
um at least from what we've heard here yeah given as he had no personal ties to spidey beyond petty

468
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:50,240
vengeance as opposed to green goblin and doc ock before him and that venom's popularity and

469
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:56,320
status as a dark reflection of spidey in addition to the black suit story being a beloved character

470
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,960
arc from the comics and cartoons prior would make for a better story and blah blah blah blah

471
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:07,920
oh in addition to upping merchandise and toy sales freaking called it of course of course uh

472
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,520
ramey was reluctant having a personal dislike of venom due to what he perceived as a lack of

473
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:20,480
humanity but ultimately acquiesced to erud and sony's demands and tried to do justice to the

474
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:28,160
character basing him on his earliest appearance yeah sony rushed us yeah so sony rushed sam

475
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,160
rimey with the deadline of spider-man 3 because they did not want to lose the film rights to

476
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:45,680
the spider-man to marvel damn man dude i i really wish that we would have gotten the to see at least

477
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:52,240
know what sam ramey's original vision for spiderman 3 was same here because i'll give him this

478
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,600
from what was described the vulture did does not sound like a compelling villain

479
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:10,240
sir not in the way that uh harry osborne is yeah especially like with what you've built him up to

480
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:22,000
so i think i think we missed out man yeah i definitely agree um i mean but just like

481
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:30,560
just like diving into this like what we did get or talking about what we what we did get i

482
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:41,440
i don't hate this as much as critics do same here like this is not the worst third movie that i

483
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,720
this is not only not the worst third movie in a trilogy this is not one of the worst

484
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:54,080
superhero movies ever made it's it's not it's it's not an it's not an abomination like so many

485
00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:03,040
people think it is no it's absolutely not i think they did as well as they could with a film like

486
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:13,040
this um obviously like there was freaking issues with um with production and everything wanting to

487
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:21,040
shoehorn a new villain and that the director wasn't familiar with but despite what we got

488
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:28,480
like we got something that was really fun to watch and a villain that was like super

489
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:38,560
relate i'll say relatable in like terms of sandman oh yeah dude absolutely and i think everyone's

490
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:46,000
like if if the if anything was done correctly it was proper motivations yes i love that they started

491
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:55,280
off the the movie like almost instantly with action and like with the peter parker new goblin

492
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:02,160
fight i thought that was an incredible beginning dude seriously that is honestly probably still

493
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:10,720
one of my favorite um superhero fights i've ever seen it was so good and then like just like the

494
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:16,960
brutality of like how they're just freaking like laying into each other yeah dude they were not

495
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:23,280
holding their punches whatsoever yeah and so when when harry gets like knocked the hell out like i

496
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:31,200
was just i remember the freaking reaction i had to that dude same like i remember being like

497
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,480
like dude i remember the like i remember my whole reaction like the first time i watched this fight

498
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,640
it's because i went to go see this movie for the first time uh for a friend's birthday really

499
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:50,960
okay cool so it was opening weekend too so yeah yeah so we went to go see this movie and i remember

500
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:56,000
like the fight and i'm just like yeah yeah like being super into it and then as soon as harry got

501
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:02,720
knocked out and was like on the floor i was like oh no like oh shit that's your best friend bro

502
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:13,280
and just like yeah i remember how like instant that like switch was and just like

503
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:24,000
and i freaking like loved it loved it um but yeah i mean that was cool just

504
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:31,520
i think the amnesia thing took like was a at least at the beginning was a little bit much for me

505
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,240
but once he like got his memory back and everything that's when it became like super interesting

506
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:46,400
yeah i can definitely agree with you there yeah so i i love i love how you could tell

507
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:54,000
you could tell when he got his uh when he lost his memory versus when he got it back because like i

508
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:01,200
think they did something with his hair yeah like you notice how like before he got his memories

509
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:08,240
back like all his features were like really light uh like his hair was like a lighter red and

510
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:13,040
and everything and then when he went or when he like had his memories back it all his features

511
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,680
went back to being like really dark yeah they did and i love that little touch no yeah it was really

512
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:30,240
nice yeah um i'm trying to think of what else yeah honestly i think it was a little overcrowded

513
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:40,240
at least near the end was but i i think he made it work as best as he could he really did like the

514
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,120
motivations were there like sandman was fighting spider-man because spider-man was keeping him from

515
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:52,640
taking care of his kid venom and eddie brock were fighting spidey because peter parker screwed them

516
01:02:52,640 --> 01:03:07,120
over like albeit it was peter parker all symbiote it up but still yeah um and then like just the

517
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:16,240
ultimate fight or how it came down to uh the fight between peter and and harry and harry gets like

518
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:27,040
all effed up so like that fight was freaking dope too yeah that was super super dope yeah like i

519
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:34,880
remember when he like like i love when they were just like kicking each other's ass and um

520
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:42,800
um freaking harry's like all blood like his like blood's coming out of his mouth and he's just like

521
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,960
i protected your ass and like i'm protected you all through high school now i'm going to kick your

522
01:03:46,960 --> 01:04:00,720
little ass then freaking peter's oh so good yeah i freaking loved shit like that dude um

523
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:06,880
um overall like it had a good flow about it like dude my only real complaint is that it got

524
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:17,280
bogged down by bully maguire and it kind of got a little bit overcrowded with villains

525
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:27,120
yeah other than that i don't have very many complaints about the story i don't either honestly

526
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:34,080
i'd say i'm i'm out i'm pretty freaking high in the in terms of these spider-man movies

527
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680
i'd say i'm like 87

528
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,080
i think

529
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:52,160
hmm i can't decide if i want to just go yeah you know i mean i gotta agree eff it 87

530
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:56,480
87 all right moving on over to writing

531
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:05,840
dude this is where all of sam raines he's freaking fall for me yeah his writing sucks

532
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:15,440
i mean but i mean the overarching story like the overarching stories are pretty sick

533
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:28,240
and like when the dialogue he's not good at filler dialogue yeah um yeah i don't know what else to say

534
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:39,440
besides that um but now dude you're absolutely right like like it's but like the interaction i

535
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:46,080
feel that um peter and mary jane have when they're on the bridge and she's she's breaking up with him

536
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:54,000
um like yeah just like some of the freaking dialogue of that is just like so cringe yeah he

537
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:04,720
sam ramey can't do freaking not serious dialogue yeah and it was the same issue in the other two

538
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:14,640
movies the villains dialogue sick yeah um everything else kind of trash well i don't know i mean how do

539
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,600
you feel about eddie's line with uh oh my spider sense is tingling if you know what i'm talking about

540
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,680
honestly i i had less issues with that than a lot of other shit that they

541
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:32,880
okay all right i think i think overall i if anyone if anyone was written the best

542
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:41,760
it was freaking eddie brock jr fair all right i can i can definitely get behind that like my favorite

543
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:50,000
part is when he gets his uh camera smashed when uh peter's in the black suit and he just like

544
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,280
walks up to like the manhole cover he's like what the hell

545
01:06:53,280 --> 01:07:01,840
the hell um but who can forget peter's classic line see a chump

546
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,360
dude i can't watch that scene anymore without seeing that meme where he like jumps and farts

547
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,920
yeah dude seriously see a chump

548
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:22,720
what does the internet have to ruin everything i know like i forget to laugh forever at that

549
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:32,800
that scene i'm like i shouldn't have but i did um i will say the the best dialogue is when

550
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:41,360
i think sandman had the best dialogue overall there was nothing sandman said that like bothered me

551
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:47,760
or made me feel like oh that's cringy like everything was like really good no especially

552
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,840
like um towards the end um or not towards the end at the end um when him and peter are having

553
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,520
that talk and he's just explaining everything of why he did it and you know how he plays back

554
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:06,000
uncle ben's death um every day and just how he wished he could have changed things um the dialogue

555
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:15,600
is just absolutely fantastic yeah it's super good um new goblins wasn't all that good

556
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:25,920
dude that's all right yeah mary jane i freaking i can't with mary jane dude i so i'm curious is

557
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:32,160
it mary jane throughout all three movies or is it just all three movies dude i i feel i'm one of

558
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:40,160
the rare people that loves kirsten dunn says mary jane i liked her for the first one and that was

559
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:48,160
it really i love i love her in all three dude she got so whiny i'm just like she did but i don't know

560
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:55,040
it worked for the way that she did the character and i know i i really liked her in uh adaptation

561
01:08:55,040 --> 01:09:04,640
of mary jane watson throughout all three films i i can't say i did she she loved so after the first

562
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:14,080
one i was like okay like there's room to improve the second one i'm like no like there's no freaking

563
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:21,280
redeeming her and then the third one just kind of like confirmed that i was like yeah i freaking

564
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:25,760
can't with you third one third one kaleb's just like stop stop she's already dead

565
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:36,000
yeah pretty much i i did not like mary jane as a character and in this franchise i she was so whiny

566
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:43,760
and then she just kept bitching and complaining about like stupid shit with uh with peter

567
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,760
like it was so aggravating like

568
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:55,280
like i think what bothered me the most because i feel like there were like i went in with some

569
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:02,080
like level of okay there's some redemption that can be had here but it was when she

570
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:10,160
when guin stacy came up and was like talking to peter and then like went off on her way and then

571
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:15,360
mary jane just started getting all freaking butt hurt like who the hell was that and then

572
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:21,360
mary jane just started getting all freaking butt hurt like who the hell was that i'm like dude don't

573
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,920
and it just got worse and worse and worse and i'm like i even remember as a kid i'm like

574
01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:35,440
this seems like a bit much oh shit like your boyfriend who you're supposed to trust is

575
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:45,040
like telling you like it's she's nothing to me like she's just some like the way he was

576
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:52,720
reacting like totally within like realistic when she when he's just what she's like losing her mind

577
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,560
and he's just like she's just a girl in my class what do you want me to say

578
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:12,560
yeah i'm just like yeah damn what like what else can he say all right fair enough so yeah it's

579
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:19,360
just that and i feel like was peter being an asshole sometimes like i wouldn't say he was

580
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:27,440
being an asshole but i think he was like he was trying his best to be like a supportive partner

581
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:36,560
yeah like he was like he was trying to relate his like her like the critiques that she was getting

582
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:42,720
to his as spider-man like because it's like he doesn't know what else to say like what's he's

583
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,120
supposed to do like oh maybe you'll try better next time like i'm pretty sure that wouldn't have

584
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,760
gone over like honestly that probably could have gone over better with her for how much she freaking

585
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:59,600
bitching complain about i thought he handled that situation like damn near perfectly but okay you

586
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:14,000
got a point yeah i uh not a freaking fan of of her writing whatsoever i will say though i feel like

587
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:21,840
one line that always sticks with me is the um one freaking uh toby not toby sorry peter just you know

588
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,640
he his landlord is just like oh uh you know where's my rent in the class you'll get your rent when you

589
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:36,800
fix this damn door that that that line just like boosts up the writing score for me yeah

590
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:46,480
uh that that was the the landlord is pretty sick i like the landlord a lot

591
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:55,120
he's a character that grew on me over time oh yeah same here unfortunately i don't think i can give

592
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:03,680
writing that high i can agree with you there the question is how low are you i'm probably sitting

593
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:12,080
at like i think sandman was good enough to bump this up to like a slightly above average so i i'm

594
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:20,720
sitting at like 75 damn you man that's what i was thinking too but i don't want to freaking just have

595
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:27,760
a line of scores that are matching but apparently that's what we're getting at so far yeah all right

596
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:39,520
next up we got acting uh so for our cast we have toby maguire who played peter parker slash spider

597
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:47,440
man we have kirsten dunst who played mary jane watson james franco who played harry osborne

598
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:55,120
slash the new goblin thomas hayden church who played flint marco otherwise known as the sandman

599
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:05,360
tofer grace who played eddie brock jr or venom uh brice dallas howard who played guin stacey

600
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:14,320
and jk simmons who played jay jona jameson the only person to play the same character in all

601
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:19,120
iterations of spider-man except for the amazing spider-man movies because he was yeah but you

602
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:24,160
don't really see jay jona jameson i don't think you ever see him yeah i think he's just mentioned

603
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,680
by name he could still play that's true so we'll just say that yeah and all in all three iterations

604
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:36,640
of live action spider-man he he is jay jona jameson rightfully deserved because god is he

605
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:45,280
amazing as as this character freaking love him um all right what's your what's your top three look

606
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:59,200
like um number number three um i'm going to give to uh james franco um where is he there he is um

607
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:05,920
i didn't love like i still really enjoy his performance as harry osborne um especially uh

608
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:12,400
you know after he wakes up from the coma and just like the the way that he tries to um uh

609
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:19,760
yeah i don't know it's just like the smooth talking that he does just the way he is um and

610
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,960
especially like you know at the ending when him and peter reconcile it's it's it's great character

611
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:32,560
moments for both um so like i i honestly this might be like the movie that i enjoy his performance

612
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,360
the most out of the three and that's why i would put him in my top three um i feel that his

613
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:44,400
performance just got better as the movies went along um so that's my number three uh number two

614
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:50,560
i'd give the thomas hayden church flint marco sandman phenomenal villain he was absolutely

615
01:15:50,560 --> 01:16:00,560
fantastic i would still put um uh william defoe and um alfred malino is it malina or malina malina

616
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:07,600
it's malina damn sorry i always screw that up now i do too okay um so i would definitely those will

617
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:14,560
always be my top two favorite adaptations of spider-man villains always but freaking thomas

618
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:20,640
hayden church is still freaking up there when it comes to um iterations of spider-man builds

619
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:26,000
because he is absolutely amazing as sandman the emotion that he gives to this character

620
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:31,680
just everything that he brings is just absolutely fantastic and i once again just loved watching

621
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:40,320
him on screen um but number one i have to give to toby mcguire um for the problems that i have

622
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:45,920
with bully mcguire and everything i can absolutely look past because i still love him so much as

623
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:54,720
spider-man slash peter parker and he showcased that again in this third one um the uh all the

624
01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:00,240
all the turmoil that he goes through as spider-man and as peter parker and the emotion that he puts

625
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:06,400
in through the performance um is fantastic like i said there is some problems that i have and i

626
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,440
feel it's more on character writing it's not really acting it's you know the bull mcguire the um

627
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,840
and just some things that like feel completely out of character for peter parker but because of the

628
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:23,440
whole symbiote storyline you can kind of excuse it um so yeah definitely got to give number one

629
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:31,360
to toby mcguire there's a reason why he's many people's favorite spider-man he's the og yeah um

630
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:40,640
honestly i think my only issue with toby's spider-man is that i don't feel he's quippy enough

631
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,640
that's fair i feel when it comes to quippy andrew garfield freaking steals the show

632
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,320
especially i don't even think andrew garfield's as quippy as i'd like him to be

633
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:58,640
i definitely the quippiest that's fair i mean i feel in the first one they took him way too serious

634
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,080
um at least in the amazing spider-man 2 he definitely had some moments to finally be

635
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,720
quippy spider-man but i definitely agree with you he wasn't as quippy as he could have been

636
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:17,040
definitely yeah i i will say um andrew garfield's spider-man's a lot more chatty it's just not quippy

637
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,360
okay that's fair and i think i like that about andrew garfield's spider-man the most

638
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:30,160
yeah tom haulin i think he just he needs to get a little quippier like it needs to be non-stop

639
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:36,720
talking and i'm hoping that's like a strategy that people like in the comics that people

640
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:41,680
have pointed out like i think he's even brought like spider-man himself has even brought it up

641
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:51,360
that he talks to get his enemies like scatterbrained yeah like that's why he doesn't shut up is because

642
01:18:51,360 --> 01:19:00,880
it distracts them and makes them easier to fight smart really smart yeah like so i think that's

643
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:06,320
something that i think they need to adapt a little bit better i don't think any spider-man has been

644
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:14,240
as quippy as they should other like not including animated ones because i feel like there's been

645
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:21,680
some animated ones that are very quippy that's fair i can definitely do there but yeah i absolutely

646
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:31,520
agree with you on number one toby maguire's the freaking bomb.com my number two i think i'm

647
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:38,480
i think i'm i'm agreeance with you i'm going to give it to thomas hayden church and like same reasons as you

648
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,920
this is my number three is honestly a coin flip it probably going to be real controversial

649
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:54,160
i'm giving it to tofor grace dude i you will get no um argument from from me here because

650
01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:00,800
like i will like i did not love the iteration of venom maybe it's just because i don't really

651
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,560
understand the character that much but what tofor grace was able to do with the character and just

652
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,440
you could tell that he kind of just had fun with it he made it his own and i appreciate the hell

653
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:17,680
out of him for that because he did his absolute best he really did dude tofor grace doesn't get

654
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:26,000
enough credit as an actor he doesn't and it's bullshit it pisses me off yeah i i love like

655
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,480
honestly i think in another life he would have made a really good spider-man

656
01:20:31,440 --> 01:20:36,480
yes oh dude yeah he would have made a fantastic peter parker

657
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:46,880
yeah i i would have liked to see him in a role like that because i i think just seeing like a

658
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:56,160
lot of his other stuff like obviously he was uh he grew up doing that 70s show and he's just done a

659
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:02,960
lot of other sitcoms and comedies like he's got the comedic timing down yes he does and he's got

660
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:09,440
that like that awkwardness about him that i feel fits perfectly for a character like spider-man

661
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:15,680
agreed so yeah i think in another life like in a freaking in the somewhere in the multiverse tofor

662
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:23,680
grace played spider-man and i freaking love it i am all for that i yeah that makes me smile honestly

663
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:33,680
yeah so but i i loved like his just quick witted quick talking and everything that he was able to

664
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,320
portray about eddie brock jr like i thought it was really good once he got into venom mode i was like

665
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:49,360
uh not loving it but yeah but it was eddie brock was great yeah his i will say this his venom voice

666
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:56,960
even though we only hear like a quick little snippet of it kind of killer yeah it wasn't

667
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:04,240
half bad actually yeah i mean i feel like you only get like one word from him and like venom mode

668
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:10,240
right i think so yeah because most of the time it's like it's separated and then like all you see is

669
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:17,280
his face and like the way that he's talking i want to know who decided that because no it should have

670
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,560
just been venom talking not him freaking pulling back and be oh hey here's eddie it's like you know

671
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:32,800
if he's if he's venom he's fully venom yeah but i i remember like flipping out when he uh when he's

672
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:39,680
talking like when he's on the wall like crawling toward like towards sandman and like how menacing

673
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:46,320
that was that he's like you want to kill the spider i want to kill the spider like let's like let's

674
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:51,040
team up make it happen and then he like kind of gets down and like is in sandman's face and he's

675
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:56,480
like then he like goes full mask he's like interested and i'm just like it's like i got chills

676
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:01,600
as like oh shit like it's about to go down

677
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:14,000
um but yeah freaking i loved his performances as uh as eddie brock venom was hit and miss yeah

678
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:22,080
agreed uh but yeah that's my top three excellent choices yeah

679
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,640
uh so where are you sitting with your uh your acting score uh acting this is definitely one

680
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:34,320
of the highest i feel um for me with this movie because um i feel that there's not really like i

681
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:40,400
feel for what they were given to work with everyone brings their a game here um i i know

682
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:47,680
you're not the biggest fan of mary jane and uh christian dunce um but i i still enjoy it

683
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:56,160
dunce um but i i still enjoy her character of how she's written here and how um kirsten dunce

684
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:02,080
uh portrays her completely understand why you're not a fan and like i say completely get it um

685
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,240
say acting wise like i'll say i think i'm not like it

686
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:09,920
i'm gonna go on 87

687
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:18,880
this i'm a little bit more on the lower end of 80s um i will say thomas hayden church definitely

688
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:24,720
brought it up toby did his best i i'd say he's pretty on par with how he was in the other two

689
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,000
but i i think i'm heading like the opposite direction so where you're going like two points

690
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:39,840
over 85 i'm probably going to go two points lower so i'm going to sit at an 83 um i'm going to go

691
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:46,880
three fair enough all right next up we got character development uh which obviously we can

692
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:55,840
do this on peter parker um you know considering you know looking at how far he's come from the

693
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:02,560
first two and into this third movie and um definitely bringing in the uh the effects

694
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:10,720
that the symbiote has on him um i didn't there are some parts uh in this movie that i'm just

695
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:16,560
like i don't love where you're taking the character um and it all comes back to bullie mcguire that's

696
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:25,680
the effects that the symbiote has on his character um i like i kind of hate um but there's some parts

697
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,240
that are like really cool with him like when you know like he's he really gets into his big you

698
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:36,960
know anger moments um and he's like literally ready to freaking just like literally kill um some

699
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:44,640
people with that scene at the bugle with eddie um when he first encounters sandman um yeah that

700
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:57,280
that shit was insane um but but uh yeah no on honestly um look like i'm trying to base it off

701
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,960
all three of these movies but i don't know if i shouldn't do that um because it should just be

702
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:09,280
what we get from him in this movie um and it's just like unfortunately like i said like some of

703
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,480
like some of the parts that the symbiote takes his storyline are great like i like i said i love the

704
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:20,480
anger parts like when he's showcasing how how mad he can get uh at some at some of uh the people that

705
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:29,280
have have that have hurt him um but the freaking like whole like dancing scene in the club um just

706
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:35,920
the freaking when he especially yeah when he walks out of um like uh freaking like men's not men's

707
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,080
dress for less but you know that kind of thing and he's freaking just doing like a little dance with

708
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,840
his arms you know rolling the hands i'm just like this doesn't feel like peter parker like this isn't

709
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,640
peter parker i don't care if the symbiote is entered and it just it doesn't feel like him um

710
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:57,440
so there's that but you know towards at the end you know you do get it resolved the symbiote leaves

711
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:02,880
his body finally realizes that yeah no this isn't me he reconciles with mary jane he reconciles with

712
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:07,760
harry before he dies so those parts are great i love that stuff it's just some of the stuff in

713
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:14,640
between them it's like kind of got a love-hate relationship with that yeah i totally agree with

714
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:24,960
you on that um the way that i view it is that this is peter parker dealing with something that he

715
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:34,960
felt was resolved with like he thought his his uncle ben's killer was dead like that's what he

716
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:42,480
thought that's what he believed so it's like he never really had to deal with his killer being on

717
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:54,240
the loose and so seeing that he was already in a place of anger and so the the symbiote just kind

718
01:27:54,240 --> 01:28:01,680
of enhanced that anger turned his anger into strength and then him feeling like how good it

719
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:10,320
is to kind of give into his anger and then living his life based off of that like giving into anger

720
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:18,320
and and rage and then he sees what it turns it like he has that moment where he hits mary jane

721
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:24,560
knocks her to the floor and he like you see that that like that was enough to knock him out of the

722
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:34,960
of the fog and just be like oh shit and then going and like cleansing himself

723
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:42,480
of like his rage and getting rid of all that and like he it's like he does everything that he

724
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:50,560
sets out to like it's interesting because it's like once he gets the symbiote then it's it's

725
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:59,840
he's running off of anger and so like that's where he's hurt mary jane he's gone and attacked harry

726
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:06,240
and he and then he like has to once he like re cleanses himself he has to go back and deal with

727
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:14,560
the consequences of his actions even though it wasn't necessarily him it's just still kind of

728
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:22,400
taking that that accountability yeah no you're absolutely right so i i thought that was it that

729
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:34,000
was it that part was really well done um and then just seeing him like come back as that symbol of

730
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:41,200
hope and justice when you get that epic scene where he jumps down in front of the american flag

731
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:47,920
and like kind of has a little pose for a minute and then runs off and jumped like freaking sick

732
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:58,080
yeah iconic straight up so this is when i'm i'm not the highest but i'm decently

733
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:08,880
high on like i'm i'm probably sitting around in a solid 80 like this is one that's like better

734
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:14,960
than above average it's still not the best in the world but it's it's it's good yeah

735
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,520
yeah yeah you know you got a point yeah you know i'm yeah i gotta match you because yeah i don't

736
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:25,120
think it deserves to belong in the 70s it barely cracks the 80s but it's it's no 70s when it comes

737
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:33,680
to the character development yeah all right next up we got effects out of all of the movies this

738
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:42,640
is probably the one with the effects that don't hold up the greatest that is fair but they fit

739
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:52,160
but they fit yeah um like i still feel for the most part excuse me when harry's flying on his

740
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:59,120
glider i still feel it looks pretty good um don't really have any problems with him uh sandman i

741
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:08,000
still feel looks really good dude sandman looks amazing yeah um i'm sorry no i was just gonna say

742
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:14,400
my favorite scene that they have is when they're in the armor truck and spider-man punches through

743
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:22,160
him and he just like that scene still looks freaking incredible like i know it's probably

744
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:28,960
a really basic special effects shot but it looks really good still it does and especially the fact

745
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:34,320
after he just literally freaking just grows his fists into like some big bigger and just freaking

746
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:41,760
just knocks him right out of the truck freaking love that shit dude giant sandman looks dope

747
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:49,200
he does um how does so so when it comes to like the final fight when he's you know giant sandman

748
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:54,880
do you still feel that holds up with how his face looks on because i had some i do have some

749
01:31:54,880 --> 01:32:00,000
problems with that because okay that he that's probably where it's like yeah that's where

750
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:08,080
where it really gets a little bit dicey yeah um but like you gotta like look at it just like the

751
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:13,840
fact that when it came to um no way home and you know just i mean even if it weren't for scheduling

752
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:18,960
conflicts with thomas hayden church the fact that when it came to like everything sandman or at

753
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:25,280
least um like when we're actually showcased flint marco um at the end the fact that that literally

754
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:31,680
that scene is taken from spider-man 3 just shows how good the effects looked in that movie

755
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:43,360
yeah i mean damn it it's it's hard to be over critical of of his effects it is because like

756
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:50,240
even to this day um like don't I love the swinging in spider-man in the amazing spider-man 2 but

757
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:56,480
there's just something about the swinging and toby wyer's movies that just it's good somewhere but

758
01:32:56,480 --> 01:33:02,320
like makes me feel at peace like just watching him watching toby swing through this the city is

759
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:09,520
spider-man just it just brings me joy puts such a smile on my face dude you are not wrong like

760
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:15,520
yeah okay sweet swinging around with andrew garfield feels like a freaking like adrenaline rush

761
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:23,440
where like i'm just remember like when he's swinging around at the beginning like before

762
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:30,000
he gets freaking like swooped by new goblin like it is it is a very peaceful

763
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:39,600
like motion that they were able to create yeah and then yeah like with garfield it is very much

764
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:48,720
like a freaking adrenaline trip which you know hey it it works for his uh iteration yeah yeah um

765
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:57,920
yeah like i'm trying to think of like any horrible effects but i can't think of anything that was

766
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:04,720
just like not good like i think sam ramey does a good job at doing going as practical as he's

767
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:14,080
capable of which i really appreciate i do too um like i thought sandman even though he was

768
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:21,440
doing like weird stuff with his body like morphing it into big item sent like i thought that looked

769
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:32,400
really good um oh the freaking train fight between dark spidey and sandman oh that fight looked

770
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:43,040
awesome yeah it still looks good agreed and it's freaking terrifying to this day like yeah yeah

771
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:49,680
it really is it's so good that's probably my favorite sequence uh with him in the black suit

772
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:58,240
that that's fair um god i don't even know what my favorite part with him in the black suit is

773
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:03,760
honestly probably gonna sound basic when he first like realizes it like he like lands on the freaking

774
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,960
side of the building he like pulls off the mask and he's just like realizing the power that he has

775
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:18,480
with his new suit that basic but that's probably my favorite yeah my so i'll say favorite moment

776
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:28,800
overall is when he ends up like being taken by the suit and then he like wakes up and he's upside

777
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:35,680
down like staring at himself in the mirror or in the glass yeah i'm gonna change my answer sorry

778
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:42,240
that yes like yeah freaking yeah and like he's like yeah just like the way he's like clean

779
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:47,040
clinging onto the freaking window of the building and he's just like looking at it and he's like

780
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:53,040
and he's just like looking at his hand just oh my god like literally now when i see that now i still

781
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:59,040
get chills i'm like this is so freaking cool yeah and then like like i said combat with sandman in

782
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:04,560
the in the sewers was the best because yes like especially when sam man's like trying to run away

783
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:10,400
and like he keeps looking back and then you see spider-man on the wall when the train's coming by

784
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:18,720
and then he like crawls away like that's classic sam raymie shit and i loved it yeah so good and

785
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:25,680
dude like sam raymie knows how to build up like a horror sequence and what that was that was just

786
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:34,560
one big horror sequence with spidey yeah and like i freaking love that when he's like fighting

787
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:40,880
spider-man and like spidey's yelling like i do remember ben parker the man you got shot down in

788
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:49,440
cold blood and then he like he's like like what's it what's it to you and then he like goes and

789
01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:54,800
swings the train comes by like ripping by and he's just like everything i'm like

790
01:36:54,800 --> 01:37:02,480
ah so good i'm like this is the shit this is peak spider-man

791
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:12,880
and yeah and just how freaking scary it was when he became or when he like

792
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:22,240
opened up the the the piping and flooded him out yeah and basically sees him melt away and

793
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:31,760
like just dude his toby mcguire's evil voice is freaking awesome it is like the way that he was

794
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:44,640
just like good riddance yeah so i i so this is this is what i'm going to dock for in terms of

795
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:54,720
the effects i'm going to to adjust for giant sandman okay what i don't do we talk about venom

796
01:37:54,720 --> 01:38:04,000
i can't remember despite how venom looked he looked like and like in terms of like how he was

797
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:10,080
designed he looked really good he did yeah like i know like a lot of people are used to like the

798
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:16,480
big broody venom like you know we got in the two new movies but yeah like honestly for the direction

799
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:23,200
the way that they made venom look like it would be um tofor grace's eddie brock yeah i feel looked

800
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:29,760
really it worked really well and it looked really good this is why i appreciated them going a uh

801
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,160
a practical route because that looked like a real mask yes it did

802
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:43,680
yeah and like i'd be genuinely shocked if it wasn't but it looked so good the only time it looked fake

803
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:50,160
is when he was talking to flint yeah other than that it looked incredible but most of the time it

804
01:38:50,160 --> 01:39:02,000
was him like screeching so yeah like he only needed the one pose that's true so i this this is one i i

805
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:15,760
am fairly high on um docking for giant sandman i think i'm sitting around 92

806
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:24,400
i think that the unfortunately the the giant sandman just kills it for me a little more i'm sorry

807
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:37,920
so i'm gonna be sitting at a 90 fair enough all right uh next up we got music bro evil spidey's

808
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:52,880
bro evil spidey's theme song or score so good you can't beat that shit no you cannot like like hot

809
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:58,880
freaking damn when it comes to like all three of these movies soundtracks they're all fantastic

810
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:05,760
they're so so good like was it the same composer for all three uh pretty sure it was danny elfman

811
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:16,160
all time all three times that explains everything that i needed to know yeah like i've if i knew

812
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:23,680
like a good way to freaking play the the songs on on here i totally would but just i love the just

813
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:33,600
like oh like and he does such a good job like danny elfman does a really solid job at freaking um

814
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:39,920
um actually let me before i feel like i'm talking out my ass it's uh i need the credits real quick

815
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:54,480
um christopher young did danny elfman not work on this what hold on oh no he was the composer

816
01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:02,400
like he's credited as a composer okay so yeah yeah yeah danny elfman had uh had some say in this

817
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:13,680
yes okay good yeah um yeah uh what was i saying i think like i think he does a good job at um

818
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:23,360
designing one theme song but being able to play it in multiple ways where it has like a more like

819
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:29,360
solemn dark tones and then he has like the kind of the lighter tones and like he's able to he's

820
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:35,680
able to play around with the music a little bit so you want to hear so interesting thing i don't

821
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:40,720
know if you saw this but says danny elfman the composer for the previous installments chose not

822
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:46,000
to return for the third installment of spider-man because of difficulties with director sam ramey

823
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,960
elfman said that he had a miserable experience working with ramey on spider-man 2 and could not

824
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:58,160
comfortably comfortably comfortably adapt his music christopher young was then announced to score

825
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:03,840
spider-man 3 in elfman's absence instead elfman chose to work with the 2006 reboot of charlotte's

826
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:08,800
web a few years later he reunited with ramey to compose the score for os the great and powerful

827
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:17,120
no shit yeah okay interesting all right well we're giving christopher young all our

828
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:22,480
yeah christopher young gets all the credit for this one yeah guy did a fantastic job

829
01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:28,800
levels of the elfman with this one yeah he was able to harness elfman really freaking good

830
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:37,680
yeah so yeah major props major props that unfortunately the rest of the the soundtrack

831
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:47,840
i wouldn't say is great that's fair it's no freaking um uh what what's like the classic like

832
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:55,360
hero by nickelback in the original it's it's it's it's nothing like that no not even close

833
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:04,880
uh so are you sitting with music hannah i'd probably say i'm an eight honestly i can give you an eight

834
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:16,960
all right next up we got costumes which i actually have references for hell yeah all right so first

835
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:26,560
stop our first step we got to talk about classic spidey just as good as the first two if not better

836
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:35,600
it looks so so good yeah the honestly i think the only reason i would say and this isn't even like

837
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:41,520
necessarily because the suit itself is better i think it was just seeing dark spidey the like

838
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:47,120
for a majority of the movie and then seeing him come back in the the old red and blues like right

839
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:53,360
in front of a flag there was just something just like made you feel patriotic about it right yeah

840
01:43:54,080 --> 01:44:00,240
it reminds me of the freaking um please when you've seen that iHOP commercial when um the guy comes

841
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:06,560
into the diner he's like red wine blue pancakes i wonder what those taste like old man did like

842
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:11,840
the like most straight face i've ever seen just looks over to him he's just like america

843
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:22,400
yeah like you can't freaking beat this suit dude you can't like it's there's a reason why

844
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:29,440
when um they put this in the ps4 spider-man game that almost everyone probably everyone

845
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:36,400
was playing with this costume like this was everyone's go-to like come on i know it was my

846
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:42,000
go-to i even tried switching around like to different suits i'm like no i want to i want to

847
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:52,640
see this as freaking brainy spidey it's so it's it's perfection that's what it is it is still like

848
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:59,840
like don't get me wrong the amazing spider-man 2 suit is so it's comic accurate it's great but

849
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:06,080
when it comes to to me just my favorite spider-man suit i've ever seen in live action just how much

850
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:11,440
not only it means to me but just how much i love watching it in action on screen i always have to

851
01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:21,280
give it to toby maguire's it's just so damn good dude this is baseline like spidey to me like if

852
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:30,320
right this is this is like this is the starting block yes oh absolutely agree but i mean his suit

853
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:39,280
is so freaking iconic there's like there's no way you can't look at like when i think

854
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:46,560
spider-man they're like the there's always like a two images that come into mind first

855
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:58,640
like my top two my number one is this suit my number two is do you do you know that like the

856
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:05,040
image of spider-man that used to come on like all the balloons all of like the the coloring books

857
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:12,400
like just that like super generic looking spider-man yep that that's the second picture that comes in

858
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:18,000
my brain when i think spider-man dude i love that that's freaking awesome

859
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:29,440
oh that's so great yeah so that's that's my number one um or my number one and two so yeah this is

860
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:37,920
like iconic like you can't freaking beat this shit um but they got real freaking close uh with

861
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:43,760
black suit spider-man dude um freaking whenever the symbiote suit is brought up from any property of

862
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:50,400
spider-man this will always be my favorite adaptation of it um i wish so much that they

863
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:57,920
put this in the ps4 spider-man and i pray even though i don't have a ps5 um i'm sure i do want

864
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:03,760
to get one eventually i hope that since the symbiote suit is going to be in spider-man 2

865
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:12,480
that this is a dlc um suit because oh my god i want to play in the suit so freaking bad um

866
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:21,040
because that's a dlc i would purchase and i don't even i like i already know so december 21st is or

867
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:29,920
not december october 21st is when this game comes out or it's like the 21st or 22nd um

868
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:36,640
i already have monday and tuesday set aside to go over to the maybes house and play it with

869
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:46,640
jackson dude that's awesome i love it yeah and if the freaking black uh symbiote suit from ramy is

870
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:55,200
like a dlc i will happily purchase that shit i'm like not even owning the freaking console like i

871
01:47:55,200 --> 01:48:00,720
will freaking buy that shit because that is the only symbiote suit that i'd want to play as right

872
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:11,040
oh it's so good so so good um yeah like i don't got any problems with this one just like i don't

873
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:21,200
with the original it's just so freaking perfect yeah like this this is perfection even though like

874
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:28,080
the the concepts art for are like actually they built a suit like a concept suit where it is like

875
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:38,960
the classic um like symbiote outfit like from comics and everything like they had a a practical

876
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:45,680
suit built for it um that they never did anything with so they just went with this

877
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:51,200
i'm glad they did it and i'm really glad that they went with this because yeah yeah the other one

878
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:57,200
looked weird like so just to explain what the other one looked like it had the same eyes

879
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:06,320
um but instead of it being like the lens with like the the the outline it was like all just one big

880
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:14,560
white lens and then the suit kind of had a more like a glossy look about it oh my gosh i'm gonna

881
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:21,360
i'm gonna see if i can freaking find a picture of it i don't know if i love what you're saying

882
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,960
all right let's see if i can pull this shit up

883
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,320
yeah i am really glad that they did not go with that

884
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:41,760
i am really glad that they did not go with that yeah so it did have um like the the normal lenses

885
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:48,640
yeah but like they they were playing around with the the spider-man suit but yeah it had a more like

886
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:54,640
glossy feel about it and i think it would have worked honestly i what i wish they would have

887
01:49:54,640 --> 01:50:02,080
done is something like how they did in spectacular spider-man um have you ever watched spectacular

888
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:15,200
spider-man i have not okay so in that show when when peter parker originally gets the symbiote

889
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:25,440
suit it is just a black version of his suit and it like slowly begins to morph into

890
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:35,600
like a bigger spider okay and like eat like each episode that he has the suit in um like yeah the

891
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:41,760
like it looks like it's growing like on him so it's like just like the what the the white

892
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:48,080
spider is just kind of extending and then it eventually becomes what the the classic

893
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:54,160
black suit from the comics looks like and i think that would have actually worked really well

894
01:50:54,160 --> 01:51:03,120
with something like this but for what we got i freaking love it so no no freaking complaints

895
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:10,960
love the suit um the next outfit that i wanted to talk about our costume is obviously freaking flint

896
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:18,160
marco sandman straight out of the freaking comics like you can't get more perfect than this

897
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:25,680
yeah t-shirt pants perfection yeah i remember someone freaking making the comment that he looks

898
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:32,480
like steve from blues clues and i'm just like forget you well can't unsee that now

899
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:43,760
yeah but um yeah sandman looks freaking sick like no complaints with how sandman looks

900
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:53,840
no complaints with how sandman looks um even like him all like souped up like he he looks really good

901
01:51:54,480 --> 01:52:02,640
he does so yeah no no freaking complaints there like i iconic outfit like freaking 10 out 10

902
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:11,600
it's basic but i mean who's gonna bitch and complain about that exactly all right next one

903
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:20,160
is venom minus the whole like pulling the mass back um i really liked how venom looked

904
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:26,400
like i thought he was really really cool i think he looked cool too i think the biggest thing he's

905
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:36,560
missing is maybe the tongue the like the tongue i know that like he had a tongue inside his mouth

906
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:43,680
but it needs to be out that's more like more prominent yeah because yeah venom is definitely

907
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:52,160
known for that yeah but i mean the eye shape the the the ununiform webbing like all that looked

908
01:52:52,160 --> 01:53:00,560
really freaking good um and then tofer like tofer grace like yeah yeah maybe not the best yeah

909
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:06,160
yeah so i mean other than that like no complaints when it comes to to venom

910
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:13,200
we agree other than like biggest one is just that needs some tongue yeah all right then the last

911
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:21,200
one i'm gonna want to talk about is the new goblin dude this suit was sick yeah it was freaking

912
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:30,960
yeah it was freaking awesome like i don't remember like having any issues with this suit growing up

913
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:36,240
i thought like i thought it was freaking cool like i'm like freaking snowboarder as the glider like

914
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:43,440
that's dope yeah like he's freaking got like a ninja assassin vibe like this was working for me

915
01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:50,640
the same here yeah so freaking no complaints here i think this was a really freaking bitchin suit

916
01:53:51,280 --> 01:54:01,680
yeah i agree yeah so uh where are you sitting with uh with costumes um honestly just because

917
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:08,080
just because like those problems that we have with them like i agree with you know

918
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:15,200
the tongue the like whole pulling back just so he can talk that just it didn't always look great um

919
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:22,720
so like for that like if it weren't for that i'd honestly be at a 10 um but i was that but because

920
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:29,600
of that um i'd personally be at a nine but i can definitely do an eight if you're feeling that

921
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:37,200
i i am at a nine and that is strictly be like same as you strictly because of venom

922
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:44,240
all right last we got our own personal scores do you want to take this one first i would love to um

923
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:50,320
so like we pointed out this movie gets way too much hate it's not as bad as everyone says that

924
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:57,200
it is um yes it does have some problems um but i blend that all on like studio interference like

925
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:04,320
what sam ramey actually did himself he did a really good job um it's say it's i feel it's a

926
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:08,960
really good conclusion to the spider-man trilogy um it's not the greatest we could have gotten

927
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:14,320
um it could have been better i definitely agree with that but for what we got i'm i'm pleased i'm

928
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:20,080
i'm i'm for the most part happy with it um the performances are great um the actions great the

929
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:28,080
freaking costumes especially are great like oh my god can't say enough good about those costumes um

930
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,560
so overall

931
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:44,400
i think they might go on 84 funny enough i am like barely below you i'm sitting at an 83

932
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:53,760
okay i was wondering how close we were going to be i like yeah i freaking love when that happens

933
01:55:53,760 --> 01:56:04,000
yeah i i have a real soft spot in my heart for this movie it's it's not as bad as everyone like

934
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:15,840
claims it to be it's it still has its like redeeming qualities about it and in the end

935
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:26,880
it's still a spider-man movie so like it's not the best but it's also not the worst by a freaking

936
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:33,280
mile and even like even if it was like just for shits and giggles even if it was the worst

937
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:41,840
it's the worst of spider-man movies which all spider-man movies are freaking sick yeah like

938
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:48,320
even i'll even say amazing spider-man is like i'll say that like it's a bad movie it's not a bad

939
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:58,400
movie yeah like even if you don't love it there is a lot to love in it yeah so i i i have a soft

940
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:05,600
spot in my heart heart for this movie this is one i will absolutely watch on my rotation like i

941
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:11,520
actually might watch three more than i do one and the only reason is because i have a thing against

942
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:18,160
origin movies watching origin movies more than once that's fair i mean two is always my go-to

943
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:24,400
though always be my go-to but that's freaking loved i mean huge part in the fact that doc ock

944
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:32,240
has always been my favorite spider-man villain so i'm a little biased yeah so

945
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:45,280
yeah like i said i freaking i freaking love this movie um so with that that concludes this week's

946
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:53,760
um this week's breakdown i did not do a good job at lining where the sub or like i stopped

947
01:57:53,760 --> 01:58:00,160
with music all right anyway so going through these scores real quick starting off with story

948
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:09,120
we ended up sitting at an 87 it was a unanimous decision to be at a 75 when it came to writing

949
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:17,600
so that was like the biggest hit on this movie uh acting came back up a little bit sitting at an 85

950
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:24,080
the character development wasn't the best in the world so we ended up giving that an 80 the effects

951
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:32,320
were rock solid so we ended up giving that one a an 80 or 91 music ended up sitting at an eight out

952
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:39,680
of ten and that's just because an amazing score the rest of the soundtrack was a little meh but

953
01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:48,320
but i think that the the score was able to save this movie uh next up costumes we ended up giving

954
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:57,520
this a nine out of ten and then our personal score averaged out to an 83.5 so with that the final

955
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:10,960
albrose letter grade for spider-man 3 has come out to a drum noise it came out to a b okay i'm cool

956
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:19,440
with that i am absolutely okay with that um i think it has a pretty decent home

957
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:26,640
yeah i'm excited yeah no i agree i'm just excited to see what it ranked above and what below

958
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:34,560
honestly just like first looks not hating it okay um all right so

959
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:46,000
spider-man 3 is currently sitting at a an 84.56 percent that puts it on the exact same level

960
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:53,520
as christopher robin interesting yeah which i mean i'm in total agreeance with that yeah

961
01:59:53,520 --> 02:00:02,560
yeah i agree yeah so this puts it below the matrix resurrections uh puts it below megan

962
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:09,280
i can see like you were i disagree with that one you said it's below megan below megan yeah

963
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:16,320
sorry i'm gonna disagree with that one that's me if it helps it's like barely all right that yeah

964
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:22,880
that cushions to blow yeah like here let me pull out my calculator i'll do the math

965
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:36,560
all right so megan is at an 84.81 which puts 84.56 so it's it's 0.25 percent

966
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:42,240
okay all right that that does not even a full percentage it's a freaking quarter of a percent

967
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:44,560
all right that makes me feel better

968
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:55,680
all right it's below the little mermaid 2023 okay yeah i i can agree with that

969
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:03,120
uh it's below hocus pocus which is at an 85 okay i can agree with that as long as it's not below

970
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:09,200
hocus pocus 2 it's uh i don't remember where hocus pocus 2 ended up yeah really quickly

971
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:14,160
can we talk about you know it's very weird that they released hocus pocus 2 last year

972
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:19,120
when this year is the 30th anniversary of hocus pocus like why would you not release it

973
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:26,080
the 30th anniversary because they're dumb yeah you know what you're not wrong all right uh let's

974
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:35,440
see it's below holes which is at an 85.25 yeah fair uh and then this one i think you might have

975
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:43,600
an issue with it's below the flash which is at an 85.31 i'm honestly it's below the flash

976
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:50,960
below the flash i'm okay with that because are you because i am too i really like i know everyone

977
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:56,240
hates that so many people hate on that movie but like i really enjoyed the flash it was what it was

978
02:01:56,240 --> 02:02:02,240
exactly what i wanted it to be people are hating on it for no reason uh they have their reasons

979
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:07,360
i know like other than the special effects the movie itself isn't like this the special effects

980
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:14,080
and you know certain people that are in the movie um dude you can't just look past that just yeah

981
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:22,080
look at it as a freaking movie um and yeah shitty people are in movies too yeah yeah you'll see a

982
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:28,400
pretty actually solid superhero film yeah but i feel like we're like one of the few

983
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:41,920
like reviewers or critics that can separate the art the artist exactly yep agreed yeah

984
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:50,400
yep agreed yeah so yeah so it's it's that's where it's sitting what's below what it's sitting above

985
02:02:50,400 --> 02:03:01,120
i actually like really agree with oh really okay so it's above prey which is at an 84.43

986
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:07,200
yeah i can definitely agree with that it's above avengers age of ultron

987
02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:15,120
um yeah sorry i don't agree with that what i dude i i feel i'm one of the few people that will defend

988
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:22,800
age of ultron and i'm sorry i like avengers age of ultron more than spider-man 3 all right uh let's

989
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:32,400
see it's above blue beetle yeah i i can agree with that all right it's above solo a star wars story

990
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:43,040
a star a star wars story yeah that's fair and then it is above free guy okay yeah i do like

991
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:47,840
spider-man 3 more than free guy i will say though like don't like don't get me wrong i agree with

992
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:54,160
you know it being above solo but solo is another uh movie that i feel gets way too much hate

993
02:03:55,200 --> 02:04:01,440
it's actually a pretty decent star wars movie if you give it a chance dude the freaking margins

994
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:10,080
for this though are so ridiculously close like it's fine just like in terms of like with spider-man

995
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:22,720
3 like you have to go what is that 84.56 yeah you have to go 12 movies up to get 1% away

996
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:33,600
damn bro that's insane yeah so that's going from technically 13 if you i i don't count 13 because

997
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:41,120
i christopher robin and spider-man 3 are on the same level but it's just alphabetized yeah so like

998
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:50,000
either of these it's it's a 12 percent or it's 12 movie difference between 84.56 and 85.56

999
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:59,760
and the 85.56 is a cruella okay wow and then go in the opposite direction so going down to an 83.5

1000
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:12,160
we're at like lady and the tramp 2019 okay and technically that's like a little bit over 1%

1001
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:18,160
so if we went like under the with no hard feeling that'd be no hard feelings

1002
02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:25,040
that'd be no hard feelings that's like the full percentage okay wow so yeah i'm not hating where

1003
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:34,640
this is at yeah i'm not either i think overall a b is a very solid score for this agreed um

1004
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:44,160
but yeah so that wraps up this week's episode um if you like this episode want to check out more

1005
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:50,080
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1006
02:05:50,080 --> 02:06:00,160
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1007
02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:07,440
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1008
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:15,600
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1009
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:24,880
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1010
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:31,680
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1011
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:39,280
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1012
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:43,520
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1013
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:51,360
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1014
02:06:51,360 --> 02:07:02,960
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1015
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:12,640
uh you guys can look forward to us breaking down saw x and i cannot bloody good time oh i cannot

1016
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:18,720
explain how excited i am to see this i never thought i'd hear caleb say that dude i'm pumped

1017
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:24,080
sida for a saw movie i never thought i'd hear that from caleb okay there's a difference between like

1018
02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:30,560
okay just letting you in on like our planning lives uh rose was like hey what about the

1019
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:37,680
exorcist and i told him how about you go kick turds um there is a major difference between a

1020
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:48,320
freaking jaw or saw slash your film and demon exorcist shit there is a huge difference

1021
02:07:54,240 --> 02:08:02,000
so yeah rose can go jump in a creek for it i'm on my way now yeah we'll uh we'll be breaking down

1022
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:08,560
saw x next week um and then the exorcist the following week yep nope

1023
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:15,520
it's it's actually almost embarrassing what we'll be doing the next week

1024
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:22,240
uh but to find out what that is be sure to tune in next week yes

1025
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:30,960
um so until then this has been the all bros podcast i'm caleb and i'm jonathan and we will

1026
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:38,960
catch you guys next week dasis show on sound like you're straining a little bit there

1027
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:52,960
i don't even know what voice i was going for