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And I'm Caleb.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
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This week on the podcast, we got nothing for a 4k spotlight or through the wall.
Yeah, I don't know what else to say besides that.
Yeah, dude, like I still feel like we're missing something.
But I can't for the life of me figure out what like I looked forever yesterday just
like scrolling through like my past feed.
I'm like, I swear there was something.
But I couldn't find anything.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if like we discover what it was we were missing like Monday right
as the episodes going up.
Dude, it's probably going to be like right as we finish recording, we're gonna be like,
oh my gosh, this is what it was.
Isn't the worst.
Oh, yeah, dude, that's the absolute worst.
Frickin hate when that happens.
Yeah, so since there is no 4k spotlight or through the wall, we're just gonna jump right
into our headliner of the evening.
Or sorry of this episode, which will be our breakdown of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
meet mayhem.
So Caleb, what do you say we get started?
Say let's do it.
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All right.
So before we jump into our breakdown, uh, we did answer answer.
Oh my God.
That's not how that works.
English is hard.
I'm just going to say that right now.
Um, we did ask a question of the week.
Um, and we did get quite a few responses.
Um, so we asked, uh, who was your favorite, uh, turtle growing up and, um, we got the
tallies.
We did get the tallies.
Dude, I'm excited to hear how, how this ended up working out because I did not see him.
Oh, I know.
I did not see a lot of love for Leo.
No, Leo barely got any love.
Oh yeah.
So in total starting off, do you want me to do Leo first or do you want me to do him last?
Go for it.
Yeah.
Go from bottom to top.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
All right.
So in last is Leonardo with eight.
Oh damn.
Yeah.
Tied.
I can't believe that these two tied.
Tied is Donatello and Michelangelo both at 15.
Holy shit, dude.
Yeah.
And number one is Raphael at 17.
Damn, that was close.
Right?
Yeah.
I did not think that many people liked Raphael.
Dude, I didn't either.
Yeah.
Like I really thought Mikey was going to take it.
Like Raph, like anyone that I've ever talked to, Mikey's usually the favorite and, and
Raphael is usually like somewhere.
Like it's not very often I meet someone who prefers Raph over the others.
Like very rarely have I ever seen Leo.
And then like it's like the two favorite, like the two that I come across the most are
Raph and Mikey.
That's that's fair.
I mean nowadays actually it seems that the two I come across the most are Raph and Leo,
at least with people that I associate with.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That is an interesting tally though.
Yeah.
I'm just really shocked that Nonatello was that high.
Dude, I am too.
Poor Leonardo.
I mean the freaking margins on that though are freaking ridiculous.
Right?
Like seriously.
I mean it like it could have been a freaking coin flip for any of like Raph, Donnie or
Mikey but Leo got freaking the shaft.
Dude, poor Leonardo.
Poor Leo.
There's a reason why I guess Partners in Crime, I think it's Partners in Crime messed up the
song in like the OG live action movie.
Have you ever, have you listened to the Turtle Power song from the 90s movie in a while?
It's been a hot minute.
So I don't know if you've caught on and like it doesn't irritate me but like every single
time I have to be like no, it's like you didn't even watch the damn movie.
They straight up go, they go, there's Leonardo, Michelangelo and Donatello and then they make
up the team with one other fellow, Rafael.
He's the leader of the group.
I'm like no, he's not.
Nope.
No.
You got that wrong man.
Not in this iteration son.
So yeah, whenever I hear that song, I'm like did you even watch the movie?
Yeah, Leonardo is always the leader and even in the Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
when Rafael is the leader, they actually did that to lead up to, I can't remember if it's
at the end of the series or if it's at the end of the movie that Splinter actually gives
the role of leadership to Leonardo.
That's weird.
I remember seeing that bit, I think that was like right before the movie came out.
It was?
Yeah, because they wanted Leo to be the leader for the movie and so it was just like randomly
like at the end, like right before the episode ended, he's like Leonardo, you're now the
leader of the team.
He's like what?
And then it ends.
Yeah, that's very abrupt.
Yeah, I mean that could just be said about that show in general.
That's true.
I heard the show wasn't horrible, like actually a lot of people liked it so like I've always
been tempted to actually go check it out.
I've heard a lot of people were like, there's one guy in particular that I was watching
on TikTok.
His girlfriend was super into Ninja Turtles and he like was a fan of Ninja Turtles too
but he was always like felt himself like as a purist so he only liked the original ones
and some of like the comics and she got him to watch that version of the Ninja Turtles
and he's like yeah, so I'm like hanging out with her.
Like she had the school so I was hanging out at her place waiting for her to get off school
and so I just like sat and watched this show and turns out he's like this is actually really
freaking good so he was like he kept making videos for every two episodes that he would
watch and he's like dude, this is a freaking solid ass series and he'd like get into his
reasoning why.
Like it made me want to watch the series.
I don't know about you but the freaking theme song absolutely slaps.
Oh damn dude.
The theme song's pretty bitchin'.
But like honestly I can't think of a Ninja Turtles theme that is bad.
All of them go freaking hard.
They do.
Like obviously there's some better than others but I mean.
None of them are like genuinely bad.
They're all really good.
They are.
They absolutely are.
So were there any like highlight, like we'll go through like maybe get some highlight comments
on here or go through those.
Yeah, I mean one for me especially was, I'm sorry.
This is coming from Tik Tok from a frowny bee and they said Donnie here reminded me
of me.
I like that.
That's a good answer.
Yeah.
Obviously we can't go through like all of these because there was like over 60 freaking
comments.
Yeah.
Yeah and a lot of them were just Leo or orange, red, like whatever.
Okay maybe it's just me but like I hate it when people say oh the orange one or the purple
one.
I'm like can you just say the damn name.
Their names are that hard to remember man.
No they're not.
You can even abbreviate them like they do in the show.
Leo, Raph, Donnie, Mikey.
I don't care if you say it like that.
But don't freaking just name them by the color.
Yeah my first one's from Irwin's bit 1842 who said Michael Angelo because the last movie.
So I'm assuming he's talking about like this movie, the movie we're discussing.
Yeah I was going to say I'm like is he talking about, yeah.
I'm like I hope he's talking about me and Mayhem.
I mean if he's talking about Out of the Shadows like you know I get that.
He was really good in that one too.
But you know what, always a good answer.
I'm sorry to say he's my least favorite turtle but understandable answer.
That's wild.
Well I mean dude I think I've told you my ranking.
I can't remember.
Because my rankings, it's Donatello, Leonardo, Raphael, and then Michael Angelo.
Yeah I think mine's the same just flipped.
So Leo first, Donnie second.
Yeah so Leo, Donnie, Raph, Mikey.
Good choice.
Good choices.
Oh.
Yeah you got another one?
Yeah this is also coming from TikTok.
I hope I pronounced this right.
Kalex.
They said I'm a teenager now but I always love Leo.
I'm sure you love hearing that answer.
Love it.
Let's see I got one from Nicky Cage Edits.
He said I only watched the live action one that Michael Bay directed slash produced.
It was Michael Angelo.
Dumb but funny.
Man if that is the only Ninja Turtles movie you've seen, dude you're missing out.
You're missing out on some quality content.
Seriously please don't let that be the only introduction, not introduction, but the only
taste you get of the Ninja Turtles because it's not that good.
I'm just gonna say it.
Any others?
This is coming from Violet on TikTok.
Mikey because our names are similar and he was so cool in the 2012 series.
They said TMNT 2012 but the 2012 series.
That is a great answer because yeah Michael Angelo was great in that one.
My next one is from Ryder and he didn't really answer the question but his comment made me
laugh.
He says how are you gonna rank top 10 when there's four turtles?
This is how.
This is exactly how.
Me and Caleb had even talked about this.
We're just like okay how are we gonna talk about our top 10 answers when most of them
are just one worded answers.
So it's just taking out the one worded answers.
It's throwing in the people that put in thought and effort into, or not really effort because
we appreciate anyone commenting but it's just someone who gave a more detailed response.
Yeah, I mean hey we still tallied them all up so we did get an accurate number of how
a lot of you favorite Raphael which that just blows my freaking mind.
That was wild because I thought Donnie was gonna win.
Yeah, it seemed like Donnie was gonna take it but no freaking Raph came in clutch at
the end.
Geez.
Alright, you got any others?
I mean I like this one coming from really underscore SSC.
Why not all four of them?
Fair.
Fair enough.
My last one is going to itsjerky.
So this is kind of like in a reply because I like to or I attempt to respond to as many
people as I reasonably can.
But their first like their response or their answer to the question was Mikey and Leo.
And then like I thought that was an interesting combo because I feel like we see Leo and Raph
and Donnie and Mikey like those are usually the pairings right?
Yep.
It's not very often that you see like Raph and Donnie or Raph and Mikey or like it's
not often you see like a not common pairing.
So the Mikey and Leo I told him like not a combo you see very often like super cool and
they said for real I like their duo episodes when they're together like they're always
fun.
I don't know if they're pointing out like a specific series.
So I'm curious if it was like a 2003 series or the 2012 one.
I'm curious.
I think like that's just an interesting, despite whatever series you're watching I think that's
an interesting combo regardless.
Oh I agree.
I always I love the kind of going off that combo I always love the combination of Raph
and Donnie.
Especially just because it's really funny how they banter off each other in the 2012
series because like honestly they have like I think it was like the first episode where
they have like two of the best jokes together throughout the whole episode when Raph is
just like okay Donnie put down the bow staff and no one gets hurt.
Sorry.
And Donnie's just and what does Donnie say?
He's just like okay yeah Raph last time you said that I actually got her.
He's like okay yeah but this time I promise I'm gonna be different.
Then yeah he kicks his ass.
And then the best is when they first go up to the streets and they're passing by a window
display and Donnie sees I think like a certain type of computer and he shouts out like what
kind of computer it is and Raph comes over he says like I don't know Donnie is it?
Donnie's just like it is.
It's freaking great.
I wish those two were paired up more.
They seem like a like a fun duo to like write for.
And in TMNT like when we're first introduced to the other three after Leonardo and the
freaking altercation that Donnie and Raph get into is freaking such great character
moments right there.
Just how Donnie points out how his anger has always been the contention and what honestly
always seems to break up the team and just the fact that he finally freaking calls him
out for it is freaking not only like insane but kind of hilarious.
I love when they get into like the like basically get into therapy for these characters.
So I mean that was all I had.
Everyone else like kind of just gave other answers but.
Now the same here that's you know it's really all I had to.
So thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week.
We really appreciate it and you gave us some decent insight into how people are viewing
the Ninja Turtles now.
Yeah how they how they really feel.
Y'all shocked the hell out of me.
Both of us.
That was that got wild.
Come on y'all need to show Leonardo some more love.
Come on.
Nah no I'm fine with it now.
It used to be where you always pick the.
The care like the loner character or like the character that like no one really liked.
I still do to this day.
I know but I mean like in Ninja Turtles it's swapped for you.
That's true but no it's just like freaking hilarious like how a buddy of mine pointed
out.
Like Jonathan I don't understand why you always have to pick out not only the nerd like it's
always the nerd that's my favorite like Donatello for Simon from Alvin and the chipmunks.
But yeah I always have to point out I always have to pick the nerd or it's the character
that like yeah nobody gives a shit about.
He's always like the sidekick or in like the case of Hawkeye does like anyone really like
when it comes to like the main six Avengers like no one really even gives a second thought
about him.
So apparently I know how to pick him.
Yeah.
But yeah so once again thank you to everyone that answered our question.
Yes thank you.
We really appreciate it.
So Rose.
Yeah sorry I forgot I'm gonna I'm leading this episode.
Yep.
Yeah so Caleb before we break down this movie do you want to let people know how we break
down movies on this podcast.
I would love to.
So if you're new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually score to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score our story writing acting character development effects
music costumes and with this one being an animated movie this is more going to be based
off character design.
And then we get our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and gives us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
It also gives us a percentage that doesn't matter quite as much but it is kind of fun
to see where these these movies rank within our system because I like dude surprise it
like with over 200 movies there are not very many like scores that like perfectly line
up like there's maybe like same.
Yeah there's like three that maybe had like three sets that have the same scores.
Yeah like exactly the same but it's it's not very often that that happens.
Like is usually off by like a hair or just like a couple points or even like a thousandth
of a point like it's it's wild how many movies we have and how little of them have the exact
same score.
That's insane dude.
Yeah.
I'm very excited to see where this one winds up.
Yeah.
So with that if you have not seen Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem we highly
recommend you go check this out and then come back to this episode because we are about
to spoil.
Seriously do not let them.
Don't let us spoil this for you.
Yeah seriously go out and enjoy this great Ninja Turtles adaptation.
Yeah so yeah if you listen beyond this point and anything is spoiled for you sorry to say
it's kind of your fault.
Yep so with that let's get into our favorite segment that we like to call reading with
Rose.
It ain't Rose's favorite segment though.
Too bad.
Yes sir.
Bullshit.
All right.
Techno Cosmic Research Institute TCRI executive Cynthia Uttron Uttram sorry sends a squadron
to hunt down rogue scientist Baxter Baxter oh my god Baxter Stockman.
I'm off to a great start who has created a mutagen to form his own mutant animal family
starting with a housefly.
Stockman is interrupted by Uttram's strike force and killed in the resulting explosion
while the mutagen falls into the sewers of New York City.
15 years later the turtle brothers Michelangelo Leonardo Raphael and Donatello have been raised
by their adoptive rat adoptive rat father Splinter after the five of them were transformed
into humanoid mutants by ooze Stockman's mutagen being chased away by humans led Splinter to
distrust humanity and train his sons in the art of ninjitsu instructing them to only leave
their sewer home to steal supplies.
Now teenagers the turtles long to live as normal high schoolers much to Splinter's dismay.
During a supply run the turtles defeat a gang of criminals to recover a stolen moped belonging
to a teenager named April O'Neill revealing themselves and their origins.
April an aspiring journalist struggling to move past an embarrassing viral incident of
vomiting on camera has been investigating a series of robberies of TCRRI technology by
a criminal known as superfly.
The turtles plan to stop superfly and through April's reporting win public acceptance as
heroes.
They intercept a piece of stolen technology and meet superfly under the Brooklyn Bridge
discovering that he is not only a mutant himself but leader of a mutant gang.
Esthetic to meet fellow mutants the turtles bond with superfly and the others and he explains
that they were created by Stockman evading TCRRI and living on an abandoned ship in Satin
Island.
Like the turtles they were attacked by society and an embittered superfly has stolen TCRRI
technology to weaponize those to mutate all wildlife on the planet into the new dominant
species and enslave humanity.
The turtles try to intervene but the gang escapes with the equipment while a tracker
allows TCRRI to capture the turtles.
At TCRRI headquarters the turtles are painfully milked for their mutagen but April arrives
with Splinter to rescue them.
At the gang's hideout Splinter and the turtles convince them that their plan for domination
will make them no better than the worst of humanity and together they turn on superfly
destroying the machine.
However the Ooze combines superfly with other nearby wildlife into a gigantic whale like
Kaiju.
He attacks the city and the turtles and other mutants attempt to stop him but are assumed
by the public to be fellow monsters.
April overcomes her anxiety and commandeers a new broadcast to explain the mutants good
intentions and the citizens of New York come to their aid.
Leonardo finds his voice as a leader utilizing Michelangelo's gift for improvisation, Donatello's
intelligence and Raphael's rage to drop a canister of TCRRI retro mutagen into superfly's
blowhole turning him back into a collection of normal animals.
Reconciling with Splinter the turtles, April and the mutants are celebrated by the city.
The mutants soon move into the sewer with them.
Splinter and Scumbug fall in love and the turtles enroll at April's high school where
they are all embraced as heroes.
In a mid-credit scene the turtles enjoy high school life while the turtles and April enjoy
themselves at prom.
They are under surveillance from Utrom holding the now unmutated superfly captive who plans
to recapture the turtles by enlisting the aid of the mysterious shredder.
Ok, I didn't realize that was superfly.
I don't think they really showed that he was still alive.
That does make sense though why there was just some random fly in a container there.
She just loves flies, she has to have one just sitting in a mason jar on her desk.
Makes sense to me.
So super interesting there.
Alright.
Well, so bro, this was so good.
So freaking good.
So Caleb saw this movie first and he was telling me his thoughts on everything and I remember
one of the things that he said, I'm very interested to see what you think of the last
three minutes because I don't know how you're going to feel about it.
I'm like, ok.
And he was not freaking kidding because I still don't know how to feel about it because
when they're accepted by society and they go to high school with April, not only do
they wear regular clothes, they take off their masks.
They're not identified by their colors anymore.
I will say the one that looks a little more normal is probably Donatello just because
the glasses make it look a little less weird.
The glasses hide his mask for a majority so it doesn't look so freaking goofy.
But freaking, throughout the last three minutes, I'm like, oh god, I don't know how I feel
about seeing them with not only a normal clothes.
The clothes I could excuse because in the 90s movie and the OG show, they wore those
trench coats and hats so I'm used to them wearing regular clothes.
But just, yeah, them not wearing their masks, I'm like, that is a staple of the Ninja Turtles.
It felt wrong.
It did!
It was weird because I almost felt like they were naked.
Dude, right?
Like, seriously.
Thankfully, you can still tell them apart because they're character designs and everything.
But yeah, it was a little hard those last three minutes.
It was really cool seeing them being accepted and actually being able to enjoy high school.
That was awesome.
But yeah, just them without masks.
I'm like, ugh, this is kind of hard to watch.
Dude, what got me though was that it was the first time.
I think it would have probably been an easier pill to swallow if I didn't know that they
sleep in their masks.
Fair.
Because they have a bunch of scenes where they're in their rooms and they're talking
and sleeping and all that good stuff, but they're in their masks.
And so them taking it off to go to school, it felt weird.
It really did.
I kind of feel uncomfortable here.
But I do appreciate that they did a swap character-wise with who gets attracted to April.
I don't think they've ever done Leonardo.
It's always been Donnie, hasn't it?
Yeah, either Donnie or Mikey in some iterations.
But the way that they made it work for Leo, I actually really liked.
And honestly, when he asks her to prom at the end and she says yes, it's a really sweet
moment.
And this actually, when it comes to...
It's always hit and miss for me when one of the turtles starts getting feelings for April,
but this is definitely one of the better ones.
I can dig this one.
I can accept it.
Yeah, I think this one worked out really well.
I feel the others, it's like... I think it was always played a little over heavy-handed.
Like that relationship, it almost got to the point of being gross in some iterations.
Like here, it genuinely feels like he just has a crush on her.
Yeah.
It's definitely not like freaking the Michael Bay one with Michelangelo and how he feels
his shell tightening whenever he's around her.
That's... no.
Yeah, that was just... meh.
That made me feel a way that I did not need to.
Right?
Seriously.
Yeah.
Dude, but this story was kick-ass.
Dude, seriously.
Like the way that it started with Baxter Stockman and I was not expecting them to kill off Baxter
Stockman that fast.
I wasn't either.
That caught me off guard.
But you know what, it made sense for the story.
It was a good setup for not only Superfly, but Bebop, Rocksteady, the... I forget the
other names.
Like Mondo, Gecko.
That's what it is, thank you.
Like good origin story for that whole family that is created.
So yeah, it was unfortunate that Baxter Stockman didn't really have a lot to do in this movie,
but it made sense.
I feel like it worked out though.
No, I definitely agree.
I think they wrote it well enough for it to make sense and kind of like getting rid of
that character.
I think they built it up enough where Superfly already had this fatherly bond with him and
it was taken away.
And he just recognized all that Baxter wanted was a family and acceptance.
And so it's like, that's what I'm going for.
But I can't have that unless the humans are gone.
Which I'm like, tracks dude, freaking tracks.
Yeah, it really freaking tracks.
Yeah, just there's that and then that leads into 15 years later we're introduced to the
turtles.
And I love that, I mean, we got the clip released, but I was just still freaking smiling cheek
to cheek with their first introduction of freaking them doing the freaking grocery run
for them and all three of them giving Leo shit for like how, oh, he's the big leader
telling us what to do.
The panter between the turtles was so freaking great in this movie.
It was amazing.
Dude, it was so freaking good.
Like super freaking good.
I have like just kind of going through these, like the story real quick.
It's just, I loved how it was all kind of centered around like it was like their goal
was like realistic.
Their goal wasn't to like save the world or anything.
Their goal was to be accepted by humanity so they could go be part of that, of the human
world.
But obviously like they come face to face with mutants and then there's like a, like
then they kind of have like, I love that they didn't instantly were like, no, that's wrong.
Like they had like struggles and like, oh, that's like, I love how they were almost like
kind of turned by super fly and talking like with super flight talking about like what
he wanted and being like, we're going to make it so mutants are like the wildly accepted
on this world.
And then they're just like, and then like we're going to kill all the humans to do it.
And they're like, maybe not.
I especially, cause this just shows like how much they really were teenagers here.
They were kind of like easily, easily persuaded by super flight at first, you know, cause
like, you know, he talks a big talk.
So you know what, if I was 15, the way that he was saying like, oh yeah, you know, we're
all, we're all going to be accepted.
We're all going to literally be a big happy family.
It's just going to be great for all of us mutants.
You know what?
If I was a 15 year old turtle, I'd be so in, like I would love that.
But it's not until they, you know, like they get to this bowling alley and they're all
like, um, they're, they're actually like all getting along with each other.
Um, like they each, each turtle finds that they're kind of click wick with, um, certain
mutants.
So like you get like Raphael with a bebop rock steady, Donnie with, um, was it metal
head and I forget which other ones to like, you know, like the smart ones of the group,
uh, Leo was super fly.
Leo, I think he, I don't think he had like that click.
I think he was like already like around super.
So yeah, like everyone else kind of found their, their person to be around and Leo's
just like, which I feel Leo was kind of that way throughout, which I, which I actually
really liked.
Yeah.
It just shows how good of a leader he is.
Seriously.
He's not as Leo had such great character moments in this movie.
Um, yeah, no, like seriously.
Um, yeah, even, even Mikey, of course he got his, his own people with a Mondo gecko.
Um, but yeah, just when super fly is going over his plan and like enslaving the humans
and basically like anything that you can think of that they used to do to us as animals,
we're going to do to them.
So he's just like, Oh yeah, you remember dog shows, we're going to do human shows.
And you're just like, Oh God damn dude, like this got weird.
I, I, I love when they were like driving the device away and, uh, like April's recording
and they're like asking super fly, like, like, so like, let's just say for like, just pretenses,
like if we weren't like super with this plan and then he like basically like goes into
how he's going to like rip them to shreds and all this, like, you ain't as cool as I
thought you were.
And he's like, no, no, no.
Like he's like, you're into this plan, right?
And he's like, Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like we're super into this human killing stuff.
And then April's like, I'll just cut around that dude.
I can't wait to get into the writing here, but, uh, yeah, dude, cause I got some stuff
I want to point out with, um, some great moments to me for Donatello.
Cause I was laughing my ass off.
Oh my gosh.
So freaking good.
Um, gosh, I mean this, this cast was ridiculous, dude, dude, everyone brought their freaking
a game.
Like you weren't kidding about ice cube.
I was a little hesitant, but yeah, he freaking killed it a super fly.
Yeah.
So, so you know, um, you know a little bit more about ice cube than, than I do, at least
his, like with his music career.
Okay.
Was he quoting songs of his?
Yes.
I knew it.
Uh, yeah.
When he says, what was it?
Six in the morning, police at my door.
Yeah.
That's I forget which NWA song I think it's either from an NWA song or it's from like
one of his singles that he did.
But um, yeah, yeah, that's straight up from him.
Okay.
One of the couple lines like that.
I'm like, that feels like, okay, that feels like a, like a song.
So okay.
But you know what?
It works.
It did.
I liked it.
Yeah.
Well, you didn't feel out of place or anything, which like honestly is like a credit to the
writing.
Yeah.
Like, honestly, I feel like that made him even more intimidating.
Like it was freaking scary.
Yeah, dude, super fly was terrifying in this movie.
Yeah.
Um, like super, super good villain.
The amazing villain.
I love how, um, like his team, they were like all for everything that he, um, he was like
going for until the turtles like offered this alternative perspective and like they all
kind of are like, yeah, we don't really want to kill all the humans.
Like we just thought this was the only option.
Hmm.
I forget which one says it, but she's like, yeah, I don't want to have to see the, um,
the lifeless bodies of my victims every single time I close my eyes.
Oh my gosh.
I think that was a leatherhead.
I think, yeah, I think you're right.
I think we're freaking bebop and rock city when they're just like, you know what?
Maybe we're angry because he made us angry.
Oh my gosh, dude.
I loved what they did with these, these mutants, like the, are all of the like leatherhead
wing nut or all of those Ninja turtle, like villains.
Yes.
Yeah.
They're, they're all from the 80s show.
Okay.
Cool.
I really liked how they flipped this on, on its head where like bebop and rock state,
like all of these people that are like known to be villains, like they're, they're not
villains.
It's just, they were led astray, like led in a, like a more violent direction.
And it just didn't like, I love how they ended up being more like anti heroes.
Yeah, no.
Um, yeah, dude, like the storytelling was so freaking good here.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Like it felt like, like this felt like really, and this is like a complaint that I've had
with like previous iterations of the Ninja turtles, how they, um, they have very teenage
problems here.
Yeah.
They really do.
Yeah.
And the way that they show that off was freaking fantastic.
Dude, seriously.
Um, God, even, um, like, uh, even the struggle that Splinter has throughout the movie with
a, just trying to get his, uh, son to understand why the human world to him is just not worth
it.
They're, they're horrible people.
Just him trying to make them understand, but still be a good dad.
Um, like honestly, his struggle throughout is really, really good.
Oh my gosh.
And dude, and then him seeing basically his reflection in super fly, like that, that was,
that was a fricking emotional gut punch.
Dude, right?
The the fricking, don't get me started on the fricking milking.
Dude, that joke was the best.
Yeah.
Like I'm usually not for jokes that like span over the entirety of the film like that, but
I think they just, they pulled it off so well where they did, where they bring it, like,
I know that like the turtles bring it up by themselves.
And then when they get to like around their dad and he's like bringing up milking and
they're like, yeah, like we get it.
Like, like they're like, it shows that they're annoyed by, by the line to the fact of how
many times that they point out, we don't even have nipples, dad.
Yeah.
It's not even possible.
Dude, the fricking horror in their face when they're like, what, what, what's this machine?
And then they're like, like looking through everything.
They're milking us.
Dude, forget like when the splinter discovers after he releases them, he's just like, what
is this anyway?
Oh, there's nothing, dad.
It's nothing.
He's like, is that a milking machine?
Frickin' sees the look on my face.
Dude, I lost it.
It was so good.
Like I loved when like the turtles realized it was a milking machine.
I loved when fricking splinter realized it was a milking machine.
Oh, man.
Holy crap.
That was some quality humor there.
So, so good.
Oh, man.
Dude, I'm usually like able to tell like when a joke's going to come in a play later on.
Yeah.
That one just like, I just thought that it was something that was like so out of this,
that world that I was like, oh, like that this isn't going to come to play anytime soon.
Like as soon as they're just like, like.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, like when they wake up and they're strapped to this device and like they're looking it
over, I'm just like, they're not going to do what I think they're doing.
Absolutely.
It's like, oh my God, I love it.
I absolutely love it.
Oh my gosh.
So good.
So, so good.
Seriously.
So good.
But yeah, like I loved how when everything was kind of coming to a head with all that
stuff that there was like, they showed a little like a team up with the mutants and then like,
but they did the turtles eventually they got their time to shine, like through all of that
chaos and I thought that worked amazingly well.
Oh dude, like even like when the humans are helping them try to get the, what is it, the
cure to the turtles to, you know, drop into super flies blowhole, the like the scene before
it's finally dropped in and like them just passing it between the four of them.
I absolutely freaking love that scene.
Dude, that, that was not only is classic turtle action there, right?
Not only is the animation great, but just the interaction between all four of them is
great.
Yeah.
And I love how everyone just kind of came into their, their roles.
Like Leo was the clear leader, Mikey was the improvisation wild card and Raph was like
just the muscle and then Donnie was just like using his brains to figure out a plan and
everything like that was just solid work.
It was so good.
Loved it so much.
Yeah.
And then like they gave us like a soup, like I can't say enough good things about this
story.
Like it was so well done.
It really was.
So we're using with this.
I won't say this is like a perfect story.
Like it had its problems, but I mean, they're, those are so few and far between.
Dude, like seriously, it's, it's so fricking good.
So I'll start off.
If you're having, I'm sitting at like a 96.
I love this story.
Like this was so like such an incredible story.
It was well told, it was like the pacing was fricking fantastic.
Like I had nothing wrong with this story.
No, same here.
Like it was perfect.
It really was perfect.
All right.
Getting into writing, bro.
So first off, I mean, so the writing for the fricking milking joke was fantastic.
Yeah.
Like it's one of those things that kept getting brought up.
And I feel like in other, I don't know what it's been about, like other movies, like maybe
it's just like overplayed or they keep trying to play it off like it's funny.
I think that might be it.
Like they keep trying to pull off the, like a joke that they think is funny and like it
just becomes like a repetitive thing.
And then it's just like, Oh, look at this.
Like it's like, I think they could have pulled it off real annoying, but it was everyone
who's getting irritated with it.
And so like, I think that's kind of what made it funnier.
It's just like, Oh yeah, the turtles were, were fricking over it.
Splinter was just like not having it.
So no one took that, like the milking in a humorous way.
And so when it ultimately came into play, like the milking came into play, that was
fricking hilarious.
Yeah, dude, that was so fricking great.
Yeah.
So I think, I think maybe like my, my issues have been when movies take those jokes like
they're funny or put them on it.
Like they know it's funny and it's like, ha ha, like get it, get it, get it.
And here it's just like, okay, we get it, man.
Like, like they call it out.
And so I don't have to be like annoyed by it.
Yeah.
But yeah, so like just had to bring that up again.
No, dude, get it.
The other like other fricking lines were hilarious.
Dude, I love what like after their fricking grocery run, when they're like walking through
the sewers and they like hear that, that one guy and they're like, I love being young and
free and able to go wherever I want to.
Like while they're fricking head and back, like, yeah, like Raph just kind of like looks
up, hears that and he's like, ugh.
Literally having to like crouch down as they're walking throughout the sewer just so nobody
sees them by the tracks.
Just yeah.
Like dude, I thought that like it was like lines like that were just like a fricking
kick in the nuts to like their problems.
I like the the mutants writing like Ice Cube was or Superfly was written amazingly well.
Super intimidating.
Dude, yeah.
Ice Cube.
Yeah, Ice Cube was insane as the voice of them.
My favorite, my favorite mutant out of this group though, freaking Mondo Gecko.
Oh, yeah, dude.
His and Michelangelo's connection was amazing.
I don't think I've ever heard so many types of bro the way to say bro ever in my life.
Like goddamn.
Oh my gosh, dude.
I loved, I loved like how they how they fricking worked because like or how like Mondo was
calling out to different stuff and just like we just want a vibe, bro.
Like I loved his voice.
Like it was so good.
His voice was so funny.
Gosh, like I'm thinking back to like all of his other like little lines.
Oh, like when freaking I think it's like Mikey finds his tail and he's like Mondo, Mondo,
Mondo and he's like it's okay bro, it grows back.
And then like the tail just pops and then he like runs off.
Dude, this is amazingly well written.
Oh man.
Holy shit.
Like man, like if there was ever like a voice that I I've actually been like wanting to
figure out how he does his freaking Mondo Gecko.
I love his, I love his voice, dude.
Yeah, I really want to know how Paul Rudd did that.
Yeah.
Yeah, the turtles were well written.
Dude.
I love how they kind of like reigned Mikey in a bit where he wasn't like as super chaotic
as he usually ends up being.
Yeah, which I really appreciate it actually.
Yeah, like don't get me wrong, all these turtles like in their own way are like super chaotic
and like Leo being the least chaotic of them, but still like attempting to be like the leader,
like hold that leadership role.
Yeah.
I think I thought that worked out really well and just like I said, reigning it into normal
levels of chaos.
Yeah.
Where, because I feel like in other iterations, like Mikey is always the one that's gotten
them into trouble.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I agree.
Yeah, but here he felt a lot more like a team player.
Yep.
Yeah, he really did.
Yeah.
Raph was like wasn't so freaking angry all the time.
Like I love that.
Like they just kind of reeled everyone in a little bit.
They did.
Yeah, like Donnie wasn't as you know, like, oh, he's the smart one.
Like, you know, that's all he does.
Not like freaking, like yeah, it was showcased, but like, you know, you got to see like other
stuff he loved, like the freaking whole K-pop joke with him.
That was freaking hilarious.
Yeah, like so good.
I really love their writing.
I love Splinter's writing too.
Splinter's writing was really, really good.
Like just everyone, like if there's like one, like, I mean, Shocker, Donnie's lines stuck
out to me the most, but the one that like definitely I've freaking laughed my ass off
in the theater.
They made the joke in like the 2012 series, but here was even funnier when they're doing
their like first battle.
And he's just like, does everyone still realize that I only have a stick?
Why did I only get a stick?
Dude, I love how they like made use of that though.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, the freaking like when they're in the car, like on the way to get the final contraption
that Superfly needs and they're just, okay, we need a certain thing to where we can hit
the brakes so they can fly out.
It was Bebop Rocksteady and Mondo Gecko so they can, you know, fly out the windshield
and everything.
What could we use?
Donnie's finally like a big stick.
Just pointing out his bow staff.
It was freaking hilarious.
I loved it.
I freaking love Donnie or Donnie and Mikey.
I love when they finally did hit that and everything was like in slow motion and Mondo's
going out the window and he's like, oh no, bro.
This movie constantly kept me laughing.
Same here, man.
Like with the random jokes here and there, just like little quips that we'd get.
Then it was able to like, I thought it was good because it was like able to make us laugh,
but then it was able to like keep with the tone, like get back to that tone really well.
So it'd go from like a joke with freaking like Mondo and Mikey and then it flipped to
like a serious tone with Ice Cube and like Superfly.
And then, yeah, seeing Splinter was amazing.
Splinter had like a really...
They gave Splinter a better personality than I've ever seen before.
Dude, I feel like honestly every single character in here got a better personality than they've
ever had.
Even freaking April.
I loved the direction that they took with her.
Like yeah, you know, she's still a journalist.
That's what she wants to be and everything.
But the fact that you see how she had a horrible embarrassing moment with accidentally puking
on camera.
And so that's just literally defined her whole high school career.
And ever since when she got introduced to the turtles, she's like, okay, maybe this
can actually be my win.
This can be what changes everything.
Will get people to look at me not as puke girl.
Just freaking like her, like you said, Splinter, just everyone was written so freaking well
here.
Some of the best I've ever seen in the franchise.
Very much so.
Like yeah, exactly what you said.
I think what they did with this was they took the...
Where everyone else seems to be like pushing.
Like oh, Raf's the angry one.
Claudio's the leader.
Donnie's the smart one.
Where they push that on you.
This reeled it in.
Like, yeah, like you could tell that Donnie was a little bit smarter than everyone.
Mikey was a little bit more like wild and free than everyone else.
Raf was a little bit more angry, but it was reeled into a realistic level.
Splinter was given an actual personality.
Because I've found in other iterations of the Ninja Turtles that Leo kind of comes off
as bland.
And Raf comes off as a major hothead.
And Donnie comes off as a nerd.
Mikey comes off as just like a freaking goober.
And then same with Splinter.
Splinter comes off as freaking boring.
Yeah, but here they gave everyone like a realistic personality.
Like realistic and interesting.
Yeah, like literally the only moment that I can think that like they point out Raf's
rage and it's a joke.
When I think it's their first fight and Raf's just like, I dream of fighting every day and
Donnie's just like, you got a rage problem.
Raf's just like, it's not a problem.
And it's played off as a joke.
It's a great gag.
But I swear that is the only time in the movie that it's approached or it's talked about
like how angry Raf is.
Like how he's the most angry of the four.
Yeah.
And I don't know, I think it worked out well.
It did.
In everyone's favor.
They were able to rewrite these classic characters and make them fresh and new for us.
Agreed.
And for characters as classic as the Ninja Turtles, that would have been an undertaking.
So freaking hats off to anyone involved in the writing process with that.
Seriously.
Amazingly done.
Yeah, dude, you guys killed it.
Yeah.
Where are you sitting now with writing?
You know, I think I'm actually, I'm going to go one point, you know what, I'm going
to go one point above.
I'm going to go 97.
The writing is just that freaking good.
Dude, I am definitely going to agree with you on that.
Yes.
Like that was really freaking good.
Yeah.
All right, moving on over to acting.
Freaking cast.
Dude.
All right.
So our main cast, we have Micah Abbey, who voiced Donatello.
Shimon Brown Jr. or Shaman Brown Jr.
I think it's Shimon.
Shimon.
All right.
Shimon Brown Jr. who voiced Michelangelo.
Nicholas Cantu who voiced Leonardo.
Brady Moon who voices Raphael.
Io Edibere who voices April O'Neill.
Jackie Chan who voices Splinter.
So total side note, I really appreciate that Splinter's not, Splinter's their dad and not
their sensei.
That's fair.
Yeah.
They never once referred to him as sensei here.
Yeah.
Whereas other indirections, like they switch back and forth.
Yeah.
Well, they always call him like master or like master Splinter or something like that.
But here they're like, dad.
That's fair.
I mean, and it might just because here they're like truly teenagers, whereas in other iterations
they're older and everything.
And so they kind of got used to like, oh, hey, even though he's our father and we still
want to, he's still that and we'll address that sometimes.
But for the most part, he is our sensei.
We want to show him respect.
Yeah.
I've never liked that though, especially for like-
So that change was really well done for me.
No, dude.
And I absolutely agree because I'm with you honestly with other iterations when like, yeah,
like when they say like, oh, thanks dad, you know, some of that, it just feels out of place.
I'm like, are you sure he's your dad?
Because you're always calling him, yeah, like you said sensei or master.
Just yeah, just felt out of place sometimes when they would actually call him their father.
Because here like, yeah, the only name that they ever call, they ever say is dad.
So it just, it didn't feel out of the ordinary at all.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, let's see.
So yeah, Jackie Chan voices Splinter.
We have John Cena who voices Rocksteady, Seth Rogen who voices Bebop, Rose Byrne who voices
Leatherhead, Natasha Demetrio who voices Wingnut, Jean-Carlo Esposito who voices Baxter Stockman,
Ice Cube who voices Superfly, Paul Rudd who voices Mondo Gecko, Post Malone who voices
Ray Fillet.
I had no idea that was him.
That's hilarious.
That is amazing.
Then Hannibal Bures who voices Genghis Frog.
I wish he was in it more, honestly.
Yeah, and I think that's it from like the main cast.
They do have a bunch of cameos though.
Like seriously, if we can, I don't know, Mr. Beast was in here.
I don't know who Mr. Beast is.
Yeah.
But.
Like I've watched a couple of his.
Okay, like I know of him.
It's just yeah, I've never seen any of his videos or anything like that.
So who's Jeff Rowe for?
Okay so Jeff Rowe's like been the writer for.
So yeah, so holy crap.
So Jeff Rowe, he I was just like looking up his, to see who he was.
He has written some of my favorite stuff.
Like what has he written?
So he was the.
So he helped write the story for Mutant Mayhem.
He wrote Mitchell's Versus the Machines.
He was a writer for Disenchantment, which is like a Netflix show that it's kind of like
Futurama but like medieval.
Okay.
And then he's done some writing for Gravity Falls, which that show is freaking amazing.
Yes it is.
But yeah, so he and then he's like done some voices.
He did a voice in the Mitchell's Versus the Machines as the man who loves fun.
And in this one he was the man who loves being young and free to go places.
Oh my god.
I love it.
That's amazing.
Oh dude, I love, I love the names for a lot of these people.
Like I'm look at like just like the who they were cast like they have Sign My Baby Mom,
Apologetic Goon, Helpful Construction Worker, Once a Paycheck Goon, Chop Shop Boss, Ratatouille
Guard.
Man who is like, yeah, man who thought a giant rat was a big cat, but it was actually a rat.
Like that was what someone was credited as.
And then Mr. Beast was freaking Times Square guy.
Like I freaking love that like seeing that at the end like man who thought giant rat
was big cat, but it was actually a rat.
Just imagine like going to like a little get together with your friend and just be like
oh so what have you been up to the past couple months?
Oh well you know I was actually in a voiceover in a movie.
Oh what movie?
Oh Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Mutant Mayhem.
Oh wow.
Oh who would you play?
Yeah who would you play?
Oh I, what was the last one you said?
Oh I was the man who thought a giant rat was a big cat, but it was actually a rat.
Just imagine you saying that at that kind of a party.
I wouldn't know how to respond to someone.
Hired.
Yeah hired, yeah.
Not a cool story bro, that's cool.
Yeah I'm like looking at these other ones like they're like all the those gang bosses
like Toupe Tom, Short Sharon, Freaking Bald Bronson, Bad Bernie, Normal Nate.
Normal Nate freaking killed me.
Oh man I freaking love this movie dude.
It's so good.
So alright let's do this.
Let's do ranking of the turtles.
Okay.
Then top three of the other mutants.
Okay I like this.
Okay shit.
This is gonna be hard.
This is gonna be real freaking difficult.
So I think I have mine.
Okay serious.
Alright my number one I think I'm gonna give to Micah Abbey who voiced Donatello.
My number two I'm giving to Nicholas Cantu who voiced Leo.
My number three I'm giving to Brady Noon who voiced Raphael.
And then four I'm gonna give to Shaman Brown Jr. who voiced Michelangelo.
And the only reason that I'm doing that is because like so just for anyone who's gonna
complain no the margins are close like really freaking close.
But for whatever reason it took a minute to accept that Donny's voice was coming from
Donny because I felt like Donny's voice fit a little bit better for Mikey.
That's fair but I feel Mikey's voice would not have fit for Donatello.
That's right too.
Because it would have been like the whole like for me it'd be the whole Corey Feldman
thing all over again like in the original live action movie and just it's too deep for
Donatello.
Yeah.
But no dude I get where you're coming from Harry.
So yeah that's my ranking for the turtles.
Okay.
Okay this is actually gonna be really funny because literally my ranking is the exact
same but I am switching to my top two are switched so.
No shit.
Yeah dead serious.
I would actually give number one to Nicholas Cantu and then two Mike Abbey.
Yeah three same Brady Noon and then four Shaman Brown.
So dude that's freaking hilarious.
Right.
So my the way that I order them is in the ranking of your favorite turtles and the way
that you're ranking the voice actors is the way that I would rank the Ninja Turtles.
That's hilarious.
Don't get me wrong I loved Mike Abbey's Donatello.
He was freaking fantastic but Nicholas Cantu barely beat him.
I just absolutely loved him so much as Leonardo.
He was so freaking good.
He does play an amazing Leonardo.
I'm pretty sure it's Nicholas Cantu but doesn't he voice which one of these voiced Gumball.
I think it was Nicholas Cantu.
Was it?
Oh yep.
I thought so.
Yeah he did it for two years before freaking puberty hit him like a ton of bricks.
I love that.
Dude it did like if you listen to how he sounds like early Adventures of Gumball versus how
he sounds in his later episodes it's it is distinct.
Really?
I'm definitely going to have to go and see this.
The world of Amazing Gumball is a freaking fantastic show as it is.
It's one that grew on me.
I think I just moved out.
My brother watched it a little bit and so I was like whatever like stupid kids show
but I started like catching clips and stuff on like Instagram or Facebook and I was like
that's actually kind of funny so I like watched the series.
It is hilarious.
I'll have to check it out.
But yeah that that's freaking hilarious though that our rankings for the turtles are just
flip-flopped.
Yeah that that's freaking fantastic.
Alright let's go the the mutants.
How are you?
Top three mutants.
Number three.
I loved her voice so much so I got to give number three to Rose Byrne as Leatherhead.
Like she went so hard with an Australian accent she just she just ran with it and it was so
funny and I loved it so much.
Dude is Rose Byrne actually Australian?
I think she is but I feel like she even went harder but I think she went harder than what
how she actually usually talks.
Like and I didn't think that was possible but she went even harder with her with her
accent and it was just freaking great.
I loved it.
It was appreciated.
It was very much appreciated.
Number two I got a gift to Ice Cube as Superfly.
He freaking caught me off guard for like how amazing he was as a voice actor.
I'm not used to Ice Cube being a voice actor.
I don't even know if I've seen anything else with him as a voice actor.
I'm gonna look through his IMDB real quick.
I don't know if he has.
If he hasn't and this is his first voice acting he's got to do more because the guy's really
good actually.
He was he was intimidating as Superfly.
The freaking like Kayla pointed out how like they inserted like actual like lines from
his songs into it but it worked really well.
Yeah like freaking Ice Cube killed it as Superfly.
I loved him.
For sure.
Number one though I got a gift to Paul Rudd as Mondo Gecko.
He freaking stole every single scene that he was in especially when he was paired up
with Michelangelo.
Like oh my god he was freaking fantastic and I was laughing my ass off whenever literally
everything that he said I was laughing my ass off.
So yeah that is my top three for a favorite mutants.
Alright so just for reference Ice Cube has done voice acting prior to this.
So he did some voice acting for Call of Duty Black Ops.
Oh okay.
And then he did a voice for the Book of Life.
Yeah the Book of Life and Book of Life Sugar Smash.
Oh that's a video game.
So yeah he did a voice acting for like two projects more or less.
Interesting.
Okay.
Other than that everything else he's done has been like live action so freaking fantastic.
Seriously.
Like he killed it dude.
He really did like god damn.
Alright my number three and this is like purely on a technicality that I'm able to do this.
I did say other mutants so I'm going to take Splinter.
I totally forgot about Jackie Chan.
Nah dude thank you for shining light on how great he was.
He did an amazing job voice acting here.
Like he's the kind of like the voice actor that I'll sometimes forget it's him.
That's fair.
Like I think he was able to throw in just like enough of a different personality that
it didn't sound too much like Jackie Chan.
Like obviously you can tell it's him but it's just like when he was talking I heard more
Splinter than anything.
No like same.
Because he was definitely doing something a little different with his voice.
It did sound like it.
Yeah it didn't sound like just like regular Jackie Chan which I appreciated.
Yeah.
So yeah he is my number three.
My number two I'm at Tolling Ingredients with you giving it to Ice Cube as Superfly.
And then my number one is absolutely going to freaking Paul Rudd as Mondo Gecko.
I loved Mondo Gecko.
Like dude I would love to see shorts come out from this with Paul like Mondo Gecko shorts.
Dude that I mean hey considering that the sequel is already greenlit and they're working
on a series for Paramount Plus.
Never know.
Oh I'm so in.
Yeah like his like the voice that he does is so distinct.
It is.
Like anyone who does a voice similar to this like it's now going to be a freaking Mondo
Gecko voice.
Mm hmm.
Like I like after I left the theater I was like trying in the car to like mimic and it's
like there's like a tone that I'm just like I can't like quite nail that.
Yeah dude that's fantastic.
So friggin loved him.
But yeah.
So with that what are you sitting at with acting.
Everyone brought their A game once again.
Like I really don't have any that like that yeah there wasn't really any that brought
it down for me that much.
So I'm probably sitting at like a 94.
I might be a hair lower.
Like not for any particular reason but I'm trying to think of like I think I think my
biggest problem might have been with like Maya Rudolph.
I can understand that and I think that she was one of the reasons that brought it down
for me a little bit.
Yeah.
Like usually she does like an amazing job.
Yeah I think that was that I think that was what did it for me too.
It was just her accent was just a little too heavy.
Yeah like I mean honestly I'll definitely be seeing this one again in theaters but yeah
when it comes on like Paramount Plus I'm definitely gonna need to have the subtitles on to be
able to fully understand what she was saying in some scenes.
Absolutely dude.
So yeah she just brought it a little bit down for me and she I mean it's not too much but
because she wasn't in it that much it was just enough.
So yeah.
So alright next up we got character development.
So obviously I think we have to do this on the turtles.
Yeah like as a whole and maybe maybe Splinter too like we could include him.
Yeah I know yeah I could definitely agree with that.
Yeah honestly overall like super great character development.
I feel that unlike other iterations where it focuses on like oh maybe one turtle like
really gets the more moments to shine and some of the like the other three are pushed
to the side or like in the case of like TMNT where that movie really just focuses on the
relationship between Raph and Leo and Mikey and Donnie are kind of pushed to the side
throughout the movie.
Here I feel that they definitely wanted to balance that out and make sure that each turtle
got the character development that they deserved.
That not one overshadowed the other.
That yeah just that each one got their moment in the spotlight and I really really appreciated
that because you know you get to see Leo struggle with even though you know Splinter said that
he's the leader, his brothers don't take him seriously.
You see you know Donnie of course struggling with um you don't really see him struggle
with his intelligence but I guess it's mostly just finding his clique you know finding his
group because you know sometimes he doesn't feel like his brothers are that he his his
brothers aren't exactly the kind of people that like don't worry he loves his brothers
but you know like they're not into like kpop like him or you know stuff like that.
And like there's even a great scene there there's with the end credit scene that like
it starts off with Donatello being like I finally found my group and it's just like
a bunch of just a bunch of freaking high schoolers just on computers it's freaking great I loved
it.
Then you know you get Mikey he's definitely you know the one that you know wants to venture
out into the real world the most and you know want to be accepted.
So you get to see his struggle and then freaking you get Raph really just want like don't like
you know he wants to go to high school just like the others but he most it seems throughout
that like he definitely just wants to be able to I don't want to say like showcase like
be I don't know would you say like release his anger in a good way or like I don't know
how to describe Raph that well.
Raph was interesting because it's like I think he wanted to like utilize it because like
he was wrestling wasn't he?
Like he joined it like a wrestling team.
Yeah I think it wasn't necessarily that he wanted to like release his anger I think he
just wanted to use it in more constructive ways.
Which I love that for the character.
Yeah.
Great character moment.
Yeah like it just I think it just showed that he um he was craving like I think it was like
the same with all of them they were just craving connection with people that were similar to
them.
And yeah their brothers like made their best efforts to like to be the like that person
for them but I mean it's different like yeah so like I think like what it showed is like
when they were strapped to that machine and they were trying to sing like a BTS song for
Donnie like you could tell that Donnie's just like okay like you guys don't know the words
but I appreciate it.
Yeah it's like I appreciate yeah exactly.
And then Don or then like when they were about to get like squished by Superfly or like Superduperfly.
Yeah.
Which I think was like just the perfect name.
Yeah so when they were about to get squished by Superduperfly how Raph was like I know
I said like I don't want to die like with your guys' faces being like the last thing
that I see but he's like I kind of lied like I'm glad I get to see you guys.
See that scene reminded me so much of the 2014 movie when they're trying to stop like
the outbreak of this mutagen having to hold up this I think radio tower or some shit like
that and Raph's just like you know I know I always beg on you guys but you know it's
because I love you guys I want to push you guys to be stronger and better than me and
all this shit and I'm just like I'm not buying this one bit.
This doesn't feel like something this Raphael would actually say.
Here oh it made complete sense for I mean yeah it was definitely more shorter and like
to the point than in the 2014 one but like I feel as it should have been and it just
felt more right.
Like it made complete sense why.
Yeah you know Raph's like you know what now that there's no one else I'd rather see for
the last time than my three brothers.
Yeah I liked how they have this moment where like I think it happened with like all of
them like I know what it's like to grow up with brothers like I have two younger brothers
and so I think it's funny because like the second you go to like compliment one of your
brothers they get like a big head about it and then you have to like shut them down and
like I found that with like when Leo's in the car and they're just like wow you sound
like such a leader right now and he's like I am such a leader right now like that like
he getting hyped about it and they're just like yeah you ruined it.
Yeah that's exactly how it is with like me and my brothers like I'll like compliment them
on something or just like or I'll go to them for like advice like I'll go to my younger
brother for like car advice stuff and he's just I'm like like I'm glad that you know
how to do this stuff and he's just like like we can't take anything seriously he's just
like I wish you knew this stuff like I'm freaking sick of answering your phone calls and I'm
like well screw you dude.
Yeah seriously damn bronson.
Yeah there's like there's like we're yelling saying mean words to each other but there's
a love behind it.
Yeah.
Like that's just not the same where someone else came and was like told my brother to
like f off I'd be like I'd like rip them a new asshole.
Yeah.
Versus like if I tell my brother to go do that like it's all like fun.
Yeah exactly.
There's actually like love behind it.
Yeah.
Like it's funny because it's like like I've seen like a bunch of like TikToks or stuff
on Instagram about it where they're just like oh my gosh like you're sick you need a kidney
like yeah like let's go like I'll give you you mine right now and then someone's like
did you drink my last coke like oh and you.
Like that's like totally within the realm of like reality like like sure like I give
my brother my kidney in a heartbeat but no way in hell am I letting him use my controller
let my Xbox controller oh man I love it.
It just I think they were they captured the brotherly relationship really well and how
that grew into them like spreading their wings into different worlds.
Yeah.
So I thought they did a really good job with this.
No seriously like even Splinter like you were mentioning yeah his struggle being a dad just
wanting his boys to be happy but also afraid for them to see how mean the real world can
be to something that they just don't understand.
Like honestly throughout it's honestly heartbreaking to see what Splinter has to go through in
this movie but it's done so so well.
Yeah like you could see that he like gave it a genuine effort and then it's just like
he was shot down in such like a strong way that it just resonated with him but it's it's
like understandable like I was going to assume that maybe he went up by himself and then
all this bad stuff happened but the fact that he took the turtles up there with him and
then they were put in just such immediate danger.
Yeah the fact that was it was it Mikey or Leo that almost got run over.
I thought it was Donnie.
I don't think it was Donnie because it's not that way.
Oh yeah it's a big one so yeah I think it might have been Raph.
So okay so it was Raph okay.
Yeah but it's just like nowadays Donnie's easy to point out of a crowd since he you
know wears glasses.
Yeah but it's just like how immediate that danger was like he tried to bring them out
into the world but it just was too dangerous and so he like that's fresh in his mind because
he's an adult.
Yeah like that's what he's like sitting with so it's like it's understandable from Splinter's
perspective and then like the turtles they were young they don't freaking remember that
and yeah so it's it's it was sad it was really sad.
It really was.
So I thought that was I thought they killed it with that.
Oh yeah they really did.
So where are you sitting with character development because I mean I think I'm fairly high.
I mean same here that just yeah the character development was so freaking good.
You know what I'm gonna match my writing.
I'm gonna go a 97.
I loved it.
Oh shit yeah I guess I'm gonna be the asshole here.
Yeah I I'm cracking 90.
Okay yeah okay man I'm okay I might be over shooting myself here.
All right.
Well don't change it.
No I'm being too nice here.
I'm only going down a little bit.
95.
That's a little too nice.
That's fair.
Yeah so moving on over to effects which with this being an animated movie it's just mostly
going to be talking about the animation.
I will fight you for a hundred.
Dude you won't have to fight me very hard.
Yes.
Okay I gotta know.
Did it take you at all a minute to get used to the animation or was it instantaneous like
you're just like okay no I'm not really.
I like I took to the animation like really quick.
I think what what what got me was the like the how the characters looked or not not the
characters the the the humans.
That's fair but like honestly they grew on me pretty fast.
It worked.
It took a minute and I'm so I'm not going to dock for effects here where I think I'm
going to end up docking is going to be in in like costumes because that's where we talk
about character design and everything.
That's fair.
In terms of the animation style this was amazing.
I couldn't even say that this felt like Spider-Verse like this felt like its own thing.
No like they're freaking like even at the beginning when it's like doing like long
takes throughout the streets of New York and there is a moment when they like focus on
a stoplight and the way that it like freezes from red and then goes to green the way you
that you can just see like the pencil lines just it's just absolutely insane for how much
freaking detail was put into the animation here.
Yeah it almost it felt like like similar to like I hate comparing it because they're so
wildly different but it's if had like that across the Spider-Verse vibe where it felt
like it could have been hand drawn like in its entirety.
I with this one though like honestly like like if you would have told me that like I
mean I mean I don't know that this one truly did feel like it was hand drawn like just
like with those like little moments of like you see close up and you can actually see
like the pencil streaks and everything and I'm just like this is freaking amazing like
this animation is breathtaking.
Yeah so I have no qualms about giving the effects a hundred out of here.
These were so freaking good oh my god.
Close to flawless.
Right oh my yeah oh my god.
Yeah if there weren't any issues with this animation I didn't see them.
Dude right like seriously it was so beautiful.
Yeah all right next up we got music and unfortunately this is where the movie's probably gonna take
a hit.
Really?
Like okay like I don't think this is a perfect 10 out of 10.
No yeah I can definitely agree with you there but like I feel it has some like good moments
like the freaking like the song that like introduces the Turtles.
I freaking love how that starts and like it starts with them like literally like spinning
their weapons like getting ready to go out.
I freaking love that track.
So freaking good but freaking when it's like the montage of them asking around about Superfly
and all this stuff and I forget the name of the song but it's just like I like the way
you work it.
No diggity.
Okay I gotta know the song really quick one second.
But like it's like it's a slowed down song and I didn't realize it was so slow I thought
it was way more upbeat but like it works so well for the scene and I freaking loved it
so much.
Yeah I'm looking at the soundtrack right now they have Jump Right In, No Diggity, and Can
I Kick It.
That's what it is.
No diggity that's what it's called.
I was shocked that Can I Kick It wasn't actually in the movie it was just in the end credits.
For how much that was like literally the only song that they used for the trailers which
it worked.
I was very shocked that it wasn't in the actual movie.
Yeah dude going real quick to that montage of them like whooping those crime lord's asses
like trying to hunt down superfly those transitions were clean.
Dude right?
Like and I just freaking love like each turtle gets like a badass close up of them in slow
mo just beating the shit out of one of them.
Like it's so freaking awesome.
Oh my god it's so great.
So good.
So here I would say the music's okay if I if we did half points I'd be at like an eight
and a half so I can go either way.
I don't know I'd probably be at an eight like honestly.
An eight?
Yeah.
Hell you won't hear any complaints from me.
I think like I was I might have been leaning a tad more closer to like eight.
But yeah.
Like it was close.
Like I loved yeah like I love the music that's in here it's great but just like it didn't
exactly crack nine for me.
Yeah like it was good it fit really well with the scenes it's just I think it was just missing
something.
I think what it was might have been missing was like a freaking ninja turtle theme.
Okay I will appreciate it.
I freaking was smiling when Mikey opens like I think it's their first fight and he opens
the door and ninja rap is playing.
I'm like ahhh.
Dude I have freaking lost it.
I was like ninja ninja.
Like I was freaking humming that the rest of the freaking scene.
Dude I wish that they would have like if that would have just kept playing while they were
like beating the shit out of these guys.
Do you know how freaking that would have made me so freaking happy.
Like oh my god that would have been amazing.
Yeah I would have lost my mind dude.
That would have boosted me to a nine if they would have done that.
Yeah but yeah so music I think sitting at a solid eight out of ten.
Like costumes but with this it's going to be more like character design than anything.
The design of the turtles, Splinter, I'll say even April and all of the mutants looked
really good.
Yeah I would say fantastic honestly.
Yeah like them alone I'd probably be sitting at like a ten out of ten.
Yeah but what gets me is how the humans looked.
Like the other additional humans.
They looked real goofy.
That's fair.
I mean I will yeah like when they first you know they're going to rescue or not rescue
get April's scooter back and you know they enter that garage and everything and even
though that like that scene was in one of the trailers like yes the way that like those
thugs looked I'm like okay this is this is a little take me a little to get used to.
Yeah why are the humans harder to look at.
Seriously like freaking like one of them like his jaw was like moved over to the left side
of his face.
I'm like what the hell.
Yeah and a lot of times their eyes were like wonky like didn't line up properly.
How the hell do how do turtles have like straight ass eyes they look normal but humans don't.
I'm sure that they were just trying to drive home like oh you know like how splinter you
know despises humans and so we got to make sure that they actually look terrifying they
look scary.
I think they might have done too good of a job.
I would buy that.
I would absolutely buy that.
That's fair yeah.
I agree but they might have done too good of a job.
Yeah just like took it one step too far man.
Yeah I appreciate the effort but you know let's dial it back a little bit maybe in the
sequel.
Yeah so where are you sitting with that.
Yeah just because you know like what you said and everything and I can definitely agree
with you like I'm probably at an eight but I could be talked up to a nine.
I'm sitting at a nine.
I think that the humans are just a small enough part of this movie to make or to only affect
it a little bit.
That's fair.
That is completely fair.
Yeah so yeah definitely sitting at a nine there.
All right last up we got our own personal scores.
All right who do you want to take this one.
What do you think?
I'll leave it up to you.
You pick.
I'll go first.
Overall oh my god this is a god I can't even get into words how much I freaking love this
movie.
This felt like a true Ninja Turtles movie and I haven't felt that way since 2007 when
TMNT came out.
So ever since I was since I was a little kid I have not felt that we have gotten an actual
good iteration of the Ninja Turtles but we finally got another great film in the Ninja
Turtles canon.
And I remember I don't know if it happened for you Caleb but before the movie starts
there's an introduction to Seth with Seth Rogen.
I was just like you know thanks for coming you know I'm really excited to show you this
you know passion project that we have of you know these four brothers and you know how
much we love these characters and excited for you to enter this world once again.
And just yeah like I have to thank not only Seth Rogen but everyone that made this movie
for just honestly reigniting my love for these characters.
It was never lost but you were they reminded me why I love these four brothers so much
and why they were such a huge staple of my childhood.
And just yeah the story was great characters were great just everything was freaking great
and don't even get me started on the animation.
I have so very little problems with this movie and just I felt like a kid again.
I was smiling cheek to cheek throughout and like this is probably I'll have to see it
again but like this is like freaking gonna have to fight Guardians 3 for like my favorite
movie of the year right now.
So man I'm gonna go a 96.
I love this movie.
Yeah I gosh this this was a really really good movie.
My expectations going into this were already really high and so the fact that it met my
expectations and then exceeded them just goes to show how much my love was thrown into this
movie.
This basically fixed every issue that I've ever had with any Ninja Turtle movie ever.
And it gave us a realistic brotherly relationship.
It gave us it dialed back the the cliches of each of the turtles.
It gave Splinter a fun personality and gave him one of the best animated action sequences
I've ever seen.
Like dude like I know we didn't end up talking about it which is a damn shame.
The freaking fight that Splinter has when he's saving the turtles.
How incredible was that scene.
So dude incredible absolutely incredible.
That was that was ripped straight out of classic freaking Jackie Chan.
Like if that wasn't choreographed by Jackie Chan in any way I would be genuinely shocked.
Fair like the the shit that he was doing like he fought with every single one of the turtles
weapons which was fantastic to see.
And then he was freaking doing stuff that like you see straight out Jackie Chan movies.
Like he was like I think one dude freaking tackled him shoved him up against like a glass
cabinet and then he grabbed like some of the beakers and stuff and started smashing it
against the dude's heads.
He was freaking fighting with furniture.
He was like jumping over stuff.
Like he was doing classic Jackie Chan action.
And that alone freaking like rocked my world.
Like I thought the action sequences with the turtles were cool.
That freaking top like the the montage that we see of the turtles like whooping everyone's
ass like I was like oh my gosh this is like peak animation right here.
Like I don't know how they're going to how they can possibly beat this in the finale.
And they did with freaking like they didn't even like top it in the finale.
They freaking topped it with splinter.
I was like damn like this is freaking dope.
I don't know how they're going to top this.
And then they did again.
Like shit like I just kept getting like more and more worked up.
I was like yes I freaking love this.
So I was going nuts the entire movie.
And again this reignited my my love for the Ninja Turtles.
And so yeah I I'm personally sitting at I think I'm sitting at like a 97.
Okay wow K-Wolf's higher than me on a Ninja Turtles movie.
This is awesome.
I know I just I love this movie dude.
I think dude that makes me happy.
I hate to say it I think this might have topped Guardians for me in terms of like favorite
movie of the year.
That's dude like it's freaking it is neck and neck.
It is very different.
They're very different movies.
Oh yeah absolutely.
Where Guardians is more of an emotional gut punch.
This one's more like comedic based but still has some heart to it and yeah I can't wait
to see this again.
I very well may go see this in theaters again.
Same here I I don't think it is but I wish that this was playing in XD or like any type
of IMAX because I would love to be able to see this on the biggest screen possible.
Same.
The animation is that is that beautiful.
Absolutely it is.
So yeah so that wraps up this breakdown.
So going through the scores real quick.
Starting off with story.
We are sitting at a 96.
So a very strong start.
Writing got a little bit of a bump sitting at a 97.
Acting was down just a hair sitting at a 93.
Character development was slightly below that sitting at a 92.5.
The effects surprise surprise sitting at a solid 100.
Music was was good.
Worked for the scenes and whatnot sitting at an 8 out of 10.
The costumes or character design for this sitting at a 9 out of 10 and that is solely
because of the humans.
And then our personal score ended up averaging out to a 96.5.
So with that the final all bros letter grade for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem
has come out to an A minus.
What how the that doesn't seem right.
No okay do we need to bump up some scores I'm ready.
That doesn't seem right.
There's no way.
What the hell.
Shit.
I mean it don't get me wrong it's a high A minus.
But to be in our like top five.
I know that's what I thought too.
I guess it was just the the acting and character development that brought it down.
I think it was a so it with music being at an eight I think that's what brought it down
a little bit.
I'll go change it to a nine.
Dude no.
This happens a lot with us.
This happened though this happens a lot where our personal score is a lot higher than what
the final average ended up being.
That's true.
So shit.
I don't like I'm trying to set my personal bias aside so I'm just like okay acting I'd
stand by acting sitting in 93.
Character development was was solid.
I mean I mean yeah we were at a frickin 92 and a half like that.
Gosh this is going to be a frickin tough pill to swallow.
Man I will change music to a nine if we need to.
Okay in okay just in theory if we did change music to a nine how much would that actually
affect that.
Excellent question.
Let's find out.
Yes it just first it's giggles.
That would have it would have bumped it up to an A but I don't know if it was deserving
of it though.
I don't know man.
I'd be willing to do it.
I'm like dead serious man.
I'd be willing to do it.
Like the more that I think about it I am more than willing to give it a.
Okay the only reason is because we haven't finished this.
I will let you adjust.
Okay all right.
Because I did say I was at an eight and a half and so I could have gone either way.
That is the only reason.
It's sad that we're fighting so hard to get this to the frickin A group.
But it's worth it.
It deserves it.
It is very much worth it.
But yeah so that was a shady instance and you frickin know it.
I know shut up.
I know what I did.
Okay so with that change Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem has been bumped up to
an A.
Okay.
So it is sitting or where it sits currently it is at a 94.37 percent.
Okay.
Which puts it below the ballot of Buster Scruggs.
Damn.
Which is at a 94.62.
It is below Bohemian Rhapsody which is at a 95.
It is below Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse which is at a 95.56.
It is also below Barbie which is at a 95.87.
Barbie I can accept but I really wanted it to beat Across the Spider-Verse so much.
And finally it is below Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 which is at a 97.18.
Okay so that puts it at what does that make it in sixth place?
Seventh.
Seventh?
It's below No Way Home as well.
Oh okay.
Okay so it's seventh.
I mean hey it made top ten.
It made top ten.
It did make top ten.
So we can say that.
But I think, ah man, like I want to go to Across the Spider-Verse real quick just to.
I personally, I like this more than Across the Spider-Verse.
I know it's probably the hot take for some people.
What did I give my, I'm just curious, what did I give my personal score?
So check this out.
So comparing this to Across the Spider-Verse, the story was the exact same.
We gave hire on the writing to Ninja Turtles.
Acting we gave hire to Spider-Man.
Character development we gave hire to Turtles.
Equal effects, equal music, equal costumes, or no, we gave hire costumes to Spider-Man
and then we had a hire personal score for, like personal score.
For Turtles.
Oh for Turtles.
I'm just like wait what was their personal score for Spider-Man?
So what killed this movie was the freaking acting.
Damn it.
Yeah.
But I can't go higher.
Like it's exactly what I wanted this to be.
I can't either.
I mean even if I were to go up to where you're at, it wouldn't matter.
It's still in the below.
Damn it.
But I mean I agree with all the other rankings.
Man that sucks.
Damn it.
Well it's okay.
In our hearts we know that we liked it more than Across the Spider-Verse.
Yeah.
Alright.
Go in the opposite direction.
Mutant Mayhem is sitting above Avengers Endgame, which is at a 94.06.
It is above War- So this is, so that's the last A-movie.
So the rest that I'm about to list are A-movies.
It is above War of the Planet of the Apes.
It is above Avengers Infinity War.
As well as Incanto.
And above Black Panther Wakanda Forever.
Okay.
Yeah it's not bad.
I like it.
Wish it was higher.
I know me too.
We're never gonna let this go.
We're never gonna, we're gonna be mad at ourselves forever for this.
Yep every time we see that.
Dude like, I almost like, like I said, so I think this deserves, for those of you that
don't know, we had Spider-Man No Way Home is sitting at like the top right now.
And Rose and I have done some reflecting and we are not in total agreeance with that score.
But we did have a very biased guest on.
So I kind of want to hit him up again and be like, hey, realistically, what are your
scores?
Because I want, I want, so do you think that's cheating?
I don't think so.
So this is what I'm thinking about doing.
This is what I'm thinking about doing.
Going through, putting in our scores, like mine and what me and you gave it.
Like putting that into the system.
And then going, like and then putting like what his, like what his original scores were
and then hitting him up and being like, hey, do you still stand by this?
Do you still stand by this?
And see what he says.
No, dude, I think, I think because I'm very curious that, you know, since it's been, you
know, a couple of years now since it came out, like if his scores have dropped at all,
I hope they have.
Because like I've looked past like at some other movies that we've done and I still stand
by the scores that we gave it.
Yeah.
And this one's not going to be any different.
But yeah, but I doubt this one will be different.
So we'll see.
Yeah.
I kind of really want to hit him up.
Be like, yeah, dude, we should reach out to Vic and be like, are you sure?
Because some of these hundreds, because he gave like quite a few hundreds, didn't he?
He gave a lot of hundreds.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, come on, man.
I know you love Spider-Man, but like it's not a perfect movie.
I'm sorry.
Oh, man.
So yeah, we will be addressing that soon.
Yes.
Our top five might be changing.
But yeah.
So anyway, yeah, so that concludes this week's breakdown.
Hell yeah.
Well, you got anything else you want to say about Mayhem?
Nope.
All right.
Cool.
Sorry.
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Yeah, very excited for that.
So you guys can look forward to that episode next week.
But until then, this has been the Albrose podcast.
I am Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we will catch you guys next week.
So long.
That was a struggle.
That was, I tried to do my Carl and just, I failed.
Well, with that.