What's up bros, I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are a couple of bros on a mission to
give you guys the most detailed movie reviews out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the all bros and a big welcome to Sam Nelson who's already in our chat.
That was quick.
Love it.
Yeah, seriously, damn.
Love it.
Thank you, Sam.
Yeah, we absolutely love it.
Alright, so this week on the podcast we have one new item in 4k spotlight that we're going
to talk about and then in our Through the Wall we have another item and funny enough
they both start or end with X.
And then F.
But you know one we actually give a shit about.
I just have to point that out.
Absolutely true.
So yeah, and then after that we will be getting into our breakdown this week which will be
our review of Haunted Mansion.
And I don't know about you but I seriously just came home from watching it.
I saw it Sunday so.
Yeah, I waited till like double post.
Damn man, you're cutting it close.
Holy shit.
The viewing was at 5 15 today and it is now like nine something.
So I'm like I barely got home.
Or at least it feels like.
Damn man.
Like the movie didn't end till like 7 40.
I didn't stay till after credits so I don't know if.
There wasn't anything.
I looked it up.
Yeah, there was nothing.
So you didn't miss anything.
Okay, good.
I just want to point out it's kind of frustrating now that since everyone's kind of copied Marvel
after the whole post credit and credit thing that literally feels for every movie now you
have to look up on your phone once the credits start rolling if you don't want to stay the
whole time to see if there is either a post credit scene or end credit scene.
Does that annoy you too?
Yeah, it freaking bugs the shit out of me.
Wait, listen, I'm going to stay after the credits.
Like I like to.
I like to stay after the credits just to like show my appreciation for the filmmakers.
No, same here.
And all that.
You also beat the matter.
You get to let you.
Wow.
It lets you have the opportunity to like let the huge like crowd that is just rushing out
of the theater to calm down a little bit because that's always frustrating.
Oh yeah, for sure.
And real quick to Sammy.
Yes, go see this movie.
It is.
Yes.
Spoiler.
Freaking awesome.
Now the question is who liked it more?
You'll find out.
Another spoiler or spoiler alert.
Probably me.
Yeah, don't get me wrong.
I really liked it.
I had a good time.
I think it seems Caleb loved this movie.
So it was so good.
But yeah, like so apparently so Brielle freaking sent me this this reel.
Apparently there's this freaking app that you can use.
Right.
And you like right before the movie starts, you like push a button.
Like on the movie and then it will like 30 it's like 30 seconds or so before.
Yeah, like 30 seconds before there's like a good point to take a pee break.
Like your phone will vibrate.
And then you can like haul ass and then come back and it will like and then you like I
don't know if you have to push the button again or what but it will tell you like what
you missed.
And then what like once the movie's over it will tell you at the end whether or not there's
a an end credit scene.
Okay you got to tell me this app.
I mean you usually even if I have to use the bathroom I'll just hold that shit because
I don't want to take the chance.
I know me too.
Me too.
But like I want to see how accurate it is.
Dude, seriously.
I like I probably would test this on like a movie that I've already seen or maybe I'll
just like definitely maybe I'll like test it like push the button and then wait for
it and then just to see like how how good of a description it gets.
Dude if that if that is actually accurate.
Yeah, that's insane.
Sierra what?
Yeah, what in the actual hell?
You thought Barbie was meh?
I'm offended.
Rude.
Barbie was amazing.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Damn.
So yeah, like I'm not with him.
I yeah, I frickin like that that Sierra wasn't a fan but hey, I'm not the movie expert.
Expert is a very, very strong word.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to say to that.
Did Stacey not like it either?
What?
Okay, Sammy, you got if Sammy's still on Sammy, you got to chime in like did you did you like
it?
I'm very curious now.
I know I know people that are listening to this on Spotify.
They're just like what the hell is going on?
Yeah, we're like I have to know or live streaming this and people are commenting that have wrong
opinions.
Damn.
Wow.
Yeah.
What was I saying?
So yeah, I'll have to I'll let you know the name of the app.
I don't remember my head.
But it sounds pretty killer.
You know what app I'm in?
Okay, it's course not an app that's gone away.
But do you miss on?
Well, okay.
There's no cinema out there.
Do you remember when Cinemark used to have Cinemode that you could like turn on and if
you know, keep your phone on silent.
And then after the movie ended, you turned it off and you got like rewarded for it.
Yeah.
I wish that they brought that back after COVID.
Like I get you know, like with the whole like, oh my god, like the movie program that they
have now at Cinemark.
I can't believe I'm forgetting it considering I'm a part of it.
But yeah, I kind of miss that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Dude, we got freaking jipped.
Like once everything started coming back, it's like they forgot like about all the like
the cool rewards that they used to do.
Dude, seriously.
But whatever.
I mean, I guess like the whole like how if you're a member, you get like that 20% off
concessions, I guess that's I guess that makes up for it.
Yeah.
But whatever.
I've been to see oh, oh, okay.
Dude, I am wait.
So Sammy went to go see Insidious instead of Barbie.
I can't I can't do like crazy horror movies like that in theaters.
He can.
I I barely made it through through Haunted Mansion and Haunted Mansion was not scary whatsoever.
I mean, that's not that's not always that's not really true.
It was kind of scary at times.
But yeah, I can't do horror movies in theaters.
But apparently it was good.
So yeah, she wants me to try to convince you to check out.
Have you seen any of the Insidious movies?
Which one was the the one with the the lawnmower?
That's sinister.
Okay, that's not the same movie.
Dude, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Frickin when I first saw that movie, that scene, I had to turn it off.
And I did not go back to that movie for a couple of months.
It took me a little bit to actually go back and finish that.
And that's saying something for me for how much I love frickin horror movies.
So yes, Sinister is probably the scariest movie I've ever seen.
Insidious and I had to stop.
No, not not insidious.
Okay, I was like, dude, like, no way in hell I'm watching it then.
No, no, the lawnmower movie.
Yeah, dude, frickin considering I had to stop halfway through and then at a later day, I
had to come back and watch it.
Yeah, no.
Scariest movie I've ever seen, honestly.
I mean, fair.
Yeah, but the insidious movies are really good.
I don't know if I really should watch them.
I don't know if I can do we should watch it on big screen.
Come on that.
I tried Sammy.
I tried.
Yeah, absolutely.
The hell not.
That is another movie that I watch on the end of my bed with my feet towards the wall.
So no one like comes and grabs my feet lights on like like subtitles, like all that good
stuff like no way in hell.
Oh, no.
So anyway, getting into.
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All righty.
So first up, we got four K spotlight.
So Rose actually has this all all up and good to go.
So let's get that going.
That that go.
Good.
Yep.
OK.
So that's the movie that neither of us give a shit about, or at least the franchise that
neither of us give a shit about.
Accurate.
I've only seen one of these movies, Too Fast Too Furious, and I think I already shared my
opinions on the podcast about this franchise.
Just we're up to 10.
And the fact that we've come this far is just amazing.
Not amazing.
I don't know.
I just can't believe that they've come this far.
I mean, they keep making money.
I know that this one did not do so well, did not do so hot.
Good.
It is time for this franchise to die.
I mean, I don't know, man.
I think Vin Diesel said that he's there's going to be an 11 and 12.
I don't know if that's going to happen.
Oh, my.
And he wanted to split like the last one into two parts.
So dude, I honestly don't think that's going to happen.
I think he for how because I think this movie only gross like 300 million worldwide, like
three or four hundred million.
But yeah, for how low that box office is, honestly, I feel he'd be lucky if he gets
number 11.
Dude, let's just hope he frickin doesn't.
Like this franchise needs to be like super done.
Like all I swear, like I think I've seen like a majority.
That's only because Frickin Brielle likes those movies.
They start to really they start to blend together.
And so they all seem like the same movie.
And then like it's just they do more and more stupid shit.
Got a point.
Like I was I know it wasn't this one.
I think it was like Fast Nine or whatever or Fast Eight.
But when I made fun of Brielle, I'm like, you know, they're probably going to do something
stupid like go into space or something.
And she's like, no, they wouldn't do that.
And it was the it was whatever movie they went into space.
I think that was the previous one.
Fast Nine, wasn't it?
It might have been like that seems that seems right.
But yeah, I frickin called it.
I was just like, gosh, this is turning to the frickin Friday the 13th.
Like Freddy goes to space or Freddy goes to hell.
Like that's the next step there.
You just OK.
Whoa.
Did you say Jason?
What the hell?
I was going to say, bro, like, come on.
I'm glad you caught that.
Keeping me honest here.
Always man.
Don't like Jason goes to X and Jason goes to hell.
Not great movies.
But at least acknowledge that it's Jason movies, not Freddy.
My bad.
It's OK.
I just associate Freddy and Jason together.
You know, I I can honestly understand that.
But yeah, so.
Like you say, who cares?
Like, dude, I frickin see ridiculous shit come from these movies.
Like someone's like, OK, when did you start like realizing that the Fast and Furious franchise
was going down the shitter?
And they're like, yeah, when frickin Vin Diesel or whoever caught a car.
Dude, they should have like I don't think it should have even gone this far, but they
should have stopped with the furious furious seven like Paul Walker's last movie.
Like from what I've seen of the ending, they hit Paul Walker and Vin Diesel's character
go off in different directions.
Vin Diesel says like a nice monologue about their brother ship.
Yeah, it was it was it was nice.
I never watched the franchise, but you know, it was a nice moment.
That's where it should have ended.
That's exactly where it should have ended.
I. I think that was like the last or the last one I saw in theaters.
Actually I think it's the last one I've seen period.
But yeah, like I was like, OK, finally they can put this franchise to rest and nope, we
got three more movies after that.
With a fourth on the way, like frickin what?
The only thing that looks fun about this one is that Jason Momoa is playing the villain
and you can just tell that he's having the time of his life.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I'll give the movie that like at least Jason Momoa is having a good time.
Yeah, that's that usually is a pretty decent recipe for a good.
A good time at least, maybe not good movie, but like you'll enjoy yourself.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So enough shit talking about fast sex.
Let's actually talk about the actual release.
Yeah, true.
So, yeah, so this Tuesday, Fast X comes out and there's three.
So there's two exclusives, but I could not find one exclusive.
It's a Walmart exclusive and it's it's so plain.
It's a little it's just a different slip cover as far as I'm aware.
And it's like I think it's the teaser poster.
It's a black background and then just says Fast X.
Lame.
That's it.
Yeah, right.
Right.
I agree.
But so this is the bare bones 4K release.
Blu ray is literally the exact same.
So I didn't even bother to include it.
Literally the only thing different is that this up here I think is.
Wait, no, I'm sorry.
No, no, same shit.
No, this is still blue.
But yeah, no, this is this is still gray.
Yeah, so exact same.
So yeah, so it's literally just the poster.
And then the other exclusive is the Best Buy exclusive steelbook, which I will say I appreciate
with this that they actually kept up with the design from the other Fast and Furious
movies that they came out with this came out with with this exact same setup for steelbooks.
So at least it will actually look complete with the other steelbooks and it won't look
like fricking off and stupid.
At least they will all match up.
Yeah.
I will say I don't hate this cover.
Like it kind of has like the classic Fast and Furious vibe.
It does.
I can definitely agree with you there.
I also appreciate that with all of them, they put the actual like number in the top corner.
I like that.
Yeah, that's that's fantastic.
I will say I wish they actually use like a picture of a real car.
Like why is that why is that picture looks so fake?
Yeah, like the coloring and everything like like fine, whatever.
But like if that's not a picture of a real car, that just feels awkward.
You know, fair enough.
I'm not a car guy.
Yeah, I mean, it looks it just it looks fake.
Like zoom in on it.
It does.
If you can.
I'm not tech savvy like Caleb, as blurry as hell.
That looks super fake.
Yeah, I stand by it.
They should have gone with like a real car.
Is the license plate say car sick?
Can I say another name?
I don't think it's like really going to help.
But like.
Yeah, that looks like car sick.
Kind of OK, that's so dumb.
That's OK.
That's that's that's quite a license plate.
All right, whatever man.
Like you should just put fast X or family or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, family.
Car sick family.
Freaking dumb.
Oh, yeah, Sammy agrees with me.
Definitely looks fake.
Yeah, I definitely agree with both of you.
She said they use the hot wheels.
Oh, seriously, though, straight up.
Yeah, that is no good.
Like no good at all.
But if you guys like this franchise, it comes out Tuesday.
So yeah, I think we've talked enough shit on it.
Yeah, you know, if you guys if you guys actually like it, you know, kudos to you.
It's just not our thing.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So if that's all you got for 4K spotlight, we can move on to our through the wall, which
is actually good.
Yes.
We're going to be talking about Saw X.
Oh, yeah.
This looks so good.
Seriously, and the fact that this just made me even more hyped when I looked at the IMD
page after watching the trailer and saw that the director of Saw 6 and Saw 7 is directing
this one.
Don't get me wrong, Saw 7, the final chapter kind of sucks.
Actually does suck.
But Saw 6 is arguably my favorite Saw movie.
So I am so freaking excited for this one.
Dude, this looks freaking awesome.
The fact and also the fact that it takes place between Saw 1 and 2.
So we have John Kramer as the main character this time.
Like this is truly going to be his movie.
Oh my God.
That makes me so excited.
OK, Sammy, yes.
OK, listen.
Here we go.
Here's my rant.
Saw is a slasher.
Slasher is technically classified as a horror movie.
OK, technically.
OK, so you got me on a technicality.
So Sammy does have a point how she pointed out that he's scared to watch Insidious, but
he can watch Saw when they're both horror movies.
Yeah, no offense, Caleb, she's got a point because yeah, Halloween is considered a horror
movie and you do just fine with those.
OK, again?
So OK, listen, I understand that these are classified as horror movies.
Totally get it.
But it's a horror subgenre.
I am totally fine with horror like they're slasher movies.
There's like that's how I classify those.
Like I am totally OK with slashers because it is a horror subgenre.
Straight up horror like demon shit like Insidious.
No bueno.
Oh, man.
I don't have to do shit, Sammy.
Don't worry, Sammy, I'll make sure he watches them.
Next time I come out, Caleb, those are the four movies we're watching.
Or is it five?
I can't remember.
Sammy, is it four or five?
Dude, I will lose my shit.
And you know I will.
Oh, no, it'd be worth it.
It'd be totally worth it.
I like we've even like we've tried it with the freaking like paranormal activities like
I could barely make it through those.
Yeah, dude, you didn't even I don't do we did you make it through all of them, actually?
No, we got to like the I think the one with the twins and I was like, I can't do it.
And then we attempted to watch Well, what's the one with like the crazy chick who steals
your tongue?
Oh, Dead Silence.
We tried watching that and then I love that movie.
Yeah.
And I was like, nope, not happening.
Like yeah, I can't do it.
Can't frickin do it.
Dude, you know what?
I can't say shit about you not being able to do Dead Silence because I went to go see
that in theaters as a kid and I actually could not handle it like we as you shouldn't have.
We had to leave the theater.
I think I was like how old was I?
I think like nine or 10, I think.
So like the first after the first 20 minutes, so we had to leave the theater.
But the theater people were really cool.
Not only did they give us a refund, but they gave me like a I think I think it was like
like the like posters that they actually use for like when they're showcasing what's playing.
But they gave me a poster of TMNT since that was coming out, I think like the next month.
So OK, so it's OK.
So so Sammy says it's five insidious movies now.
Holy shit.
Oh, rude.
The shit I will do for a guest, though.
All right, Sammy, you got to watch Dead Silence now, too, just so we can get you on that for
it.
Not only so we can get you on for that episode, but so Caleb can actually watch it.
I won't do it willingly, though.
That will absolutely tell me against my will.
So what you're telling me is you definitely want to watch it on big screen.
That's what you're telling me, right?
I am absolutely telling you to eat shit.
If you think that I'm watching that shit on big screen.
Come on, man.
It's the best way to experience VR.
Come on.
Yeah, no, I don't.
I don't need to be an adult that shits themselves watching a horror movie.
That is not a story that I need to have in my life.
But it'd be one hell of an Albrow story.
Come on.
That is completely besides the point.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Anyway, Saw X.
It looks freaking sick.
So this is like a time jump between...
Is this between two and three or?
No, so this is between one and two.
So I was able to tell that before I even found out about it online is the fact that Amanda
at the end of the trailer has that type of haircut.
She only had that in the...
I can't remember if she had it in the first, but I know she had it in the second.
She has a completely different one in the third.
So that's how I was able to truly tell that this takes place between Saw I and II.
I never thought about this idea of...
With John Kramer's cancer, his doctor suggests that there's this type of...
Shit.
How would you explain that?
Like an experimental treatment.
There we go.
Is it Mexico City?
Yeah.
And then it turns out that they didn't even touch the tumor.
Yeah, didn't do shit.
So of course John Kramer was just like, oh, only got months to live.
I gotta teach them their lessons.
I gotta have them play the game.
That is probably the ideal concept for this movie.
I don't make it a habit of refusing gifts, but no.
No Sam, I will not.
Oh, damn.
I am electing to not shit my pants.
Caleb's no fun.
Nope.
Yeah, anyway.
The continuation of the Saw story, I feel like there's always been that missing link.
And I think that this fits into that slot perfectly.
I absolutely agree.
There's a line in this trailer that's not only spoken at the beginning, but towards
the middle where it makes more sense.
And I actually found, for some reason I didn't recognize the voice at first, but I found
out online that it's Mark Hoffman, the guy that takes over for Jigsaw from Saw 4 to 7.
And he says one of the most badass lines, he says, of all the people to cheat, he says
cheat, right?
Yeah.
He says, of all the people that cheat, you choose John Kramer.
And you're just like, yeah, you know, you got a point.
Yeah.
You definitely done messed up.
You're just asking for death.
Exactly.
You're just asking for death at that point, honestly.
But I'm excited to see where this one goes.
Dude, the traps especially look freaking insane.
Oh, they look so good.
I don't think they showed it in the trailer, but have you seen the teaser poster where
it has those two tubes connected to the eyes?
Yeah.
So apparently it's acid that will pull that is going to pour, start pouring through those.
And you have to, I think, like, you have to like break your fingers or something for the
acid to not reach your eyes.
It's like, ah, I'm good.
Dude, I can't, I can't freaking handle like hands getting jacked up like that.
That's going to be a rough one.
Dude, what about the one where the guy has to freaking take out a part of his brain?
Gosh, that one's going to be insane.
Yeah, exactly, Sammy.
There's some weird shit that's going to happen in this movie and I am here for it.
Like, oh, I'm pumped.
I'm so pumped.
And it's it's not same here.
I think it's adding like a really cool aspect to this where it like John Kramer is like,
it seems like he has like a he's not like hiding behind a mask or like on like the sidelines.
He is like they're watching.
Yes.
And I love that so much.
Yeah.
But doesn't watch a movie about a kid who has bad dreams.
No offense, Caleb, she's kind of got a point.
What?
I'm sick if your guys are shit.
Sorry, Caleb.
All right.
OK, I'll stop ganging up on you.
I'm sorry.
There's some sort of collusion here.
Oh, shit.
I'm sorry.
But yeah, I am.
I'm loving like that.
He's kind of being like the overseer of these these games, which it kind of like goes in
line with the first.
So it's not like he has a it's not like it kind of feels like a little bit more in line.
Like if this is something that he started doing, it makes sense that he'd want to be
in like the middle of it.
And so seeing all like our being the on seer like really makes sense for for him.
I hope it adds like a really cool like dynamic to this whole story.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I agree.
Pick on Caleb.
Yeah, it absolutely feels like that.
I appreciate it on Rosenite.
I know there's absolutely pick on Rosenite.
I appreciate it, though.
It keeps me on my toes.
That's the spirit.
I mean, you got it.
You got to call me out on my bullshit.
So yeah.
So I I don't know about you.
I'm at a solid like nine out of 10 with excitement level on this.
Exact same.
Yes, I'm so pumped.
Like I this almost this motivates me to actually go and like rewatch all of them.
Do you should?
I mean, don't you have them all on your video?
Yeah.
I think including spiral and jigsaw.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure you're right.
Yeah, but like, yeah, this is.
This is definitely might be my motivation to go back and rewatch all of them.
I mean, I don't need the title is a soft franchise.
The title is interesting, though, because this isn't technically.
So I mean, this is the 10th.
That is if I'm if I'm counting right, it's got to technically.
Yes, seven, eight, nine.
OK.
If you count spiral, this is.
Yeah.
You technically, I guess, would count those, even though spiral is from the Book of Saw.
It still counts as a movie, I guess.
So yeah, technically, this is Saughton.
Yeah, I mean, they in I know it's like the Book of Saw.
So it's like its own like side story.
But in that, John Kramer was like a real person, though.
This is just like going off of someone else who was like inspired by him and and whatever.
Mm hmm.
OK.
So, OK, I can get I'm assuming spiral.
It kind of makes everything canon now, which is kind of cool.
No, it does, because I'm pretty sure spiral takes place.
I don't know how long after, but I'm pretty sure after Jake saw it doesn't take place
in between saw the final chapter and Jake saw as far as I know.
Yeah.
I'm trying to remember when it when it takes when that one takes place, I know it takes
place after John Kramer has been dead for a while because Samuel L. Jackson's character
like was one of the investigators on that.
Yeah.
Do the fact that frickin John Kramer has been dead since the third movie at the end and
they've been able to just carry this franchise on since then is it's honestly amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, they've made it work.
They've made it work.
Definitely made it work.
And what's cool, too, is like the guy who plays John Kramer's looks exactly how he did
in the in the.
Seriously, Tobin Bell does not age.
Doesn't seem like it.
Or they just like, hey, he's dying of cancer.
What you going to do?
Like of course he looks a little older than than he should.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Because like because the last time we saw it, I mean, we've seen him a couple of times
like in flashbacks and shit.
But yeah, like I'm so pumped.
I freaking love.
The twists that that's the Saw movies put out.
Obviously, there are some better than others, but I love that I was never able to like to
call what was going to happen in the Saw movies.
I still freaking geek out about the first one.
Like when he like just stands up and like walks out, I was like, this is freaking dope.
Right.
I love it.
Yeah.
So super excited for this.
Can't wait for it to come out.
But yeah, anything else on this?
Because I.
No, I don't got anything.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, with that, let's say we get into this week's headliner.
Do it.
So, yeah, like we said, we will be breaking down a haunted mansion today.
So with that, we should set a bit of a mood.
More saturation because it is a spooky movie the way he says that.
We've got to set.
We should set a mood.
Oh, anyway.
Oh, we appreciate that, Sammy.
Thank you.
That's really kind of you, Sammy.
Yeah.
Honestly, thank you to you and your family for all the support that you've shown us over
the years.
Oh, yeah.
I thought this is this.
The show is kind of like it's been my my first baby.
It's true.
Yeah, really.
It is so, so much fun to work on and do.
And obviously keeps me in touch with.
Rose, but we're not here to talk about that.
God, Sammy tries to get all sentimental and Caleb shuts it down.
Yep.
Exactly.
That's that's Caleb for you.
No offense and untaken.
All right.
Anyway, we did ask a question of the week.
So the question of the week that we asked and we couldn't really think of anything else
to ask, but it was just who was your favorite haunted mansion ghost?
We did get a couple of responses, so we'll kind of go back and forth and say some of
our favorites.
I think I don't know if we have enough to do like five each, but we'll just list off
as many as we can.
So I will go first over on YouTube.
We have Abby the Muppet Girl who said the Hat Box Ghost.
It's always a fan favorite, always a good choice.
Oh, yeah.
Classic choice.
So yeah, anyway, Rose, what do you got?
For me, coming from TikTok, we got Cobra Kyle.
He said, whichever one isn't played by Jared Leto.
Damn.
Roasted.
I don't know about you, but I couldn't tell at all that that was him.
Dude, not even a little bit.
Like once he had...
Not only in the...
Sorry.
No, I was just saying, like once they...
I mean, obviously they had the art that looked like him, but like the past pictures and shit,
but like, yeah, that was...
You couldn't even see him.
And the voice was just so distorted too, like it didn't sound like him either.
Dude, yeah, right?
If someone would have told...
If I didn't know that that was Jared Leto coming in, like yeah, I never would have guessed
it.
No one ever told me that that was Jared Leto playing the Hat Box Ghost.
Never would have guessed it.
Same.
I couldn't tell by the voice.
I couldn't tell by the look.
I'm surprised that they got Jared Leto to do that at all.
They could have just done like a CG with some random voice actor.
Yeah, seriously.
Why pay a high paid actor?
I'm not trying to sound like an asshole here.
I am.
But I don't know.
Okay.
You could have saved yourself a big old paycheck.
And it's Jared Leto.
A lot of people have a love-hate relationship with that guy.
I could really care less about Jared Leto.
Like not in a bad way.
It's just like I'm so indifferent about him.
Excuse me.
Like he does some weird shit.
Which is whatever a lot of actors seem to.
But I don't understand why they would go through the trouble of hiring a big name like that
just to do a very heavily CGI'd character.
I agree.
In that situation, we're not going there because it's Jared Leto.
We're going there because it's the frickin' Hatbox ghost.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So I completely understand that comment.
Sammy didn't see the question this week.
You still have time to answer.
Like we don't have ten answers to go off of so feel free.
Like we said, favorite Haunted Mansion ghost.
But my next response comes from a Cody McKenna on Instagram who said, Madam Leota.
Always a good choice.
Excellent choice.
Okay, here's a question though.
Jamie Lee Curtis' Madam Leota?
Or I mean I don't know what they're talking about in the ride.
But for me, Jamie Lee Curtis' Madam Leota or Jennifer Tilly's Madam Leota?
That's a tough one.
Right?
I loved them both but Jennifer Tilly.
Dude, I gotta give it to Jennifer Tilly.
I loved her so.
I love Jamie Lee Curtis too.
But Jennifer Tilly just frickin'.
I gotta say she's slayed in that role.
I gotta say it.
She's slayed in that role.
Careful Roser, you're letting your buy show.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
Oh but yeah, like I said, excellent, excellent decision with Madam Leota.
Classic and whatever version you're talking about is an excellent choice.
But Jennifer Tilly is the correct answer.
Yes.
Alright, what do you got next?
I got another one from TikTok coming from Meatloaf.
I love the name because Meatloaf is good.
I don't blame you for naming your account that.
They said I like the fisherman because, sorry, I like the fisherman.
One, he looks cool.
He looks chill, sorry.
That's actually a fair answer, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, he was very helpful in the movie.
So you know.
I'd say he was pretty chill.
He was frickin', like, he got frickin' spooky too.
Like at times.
Like, his haunting was frickin' terrifying.
That's true.
Yeah, when he frickin' attacks Ben and he's, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ben?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's like, go back.
You're like, okay.
It's like, I'm out.
Nope.
Ain't doing that shit.
Yeah.
Like this wasn't based off of the movie.
Like you could have done it based off of any of the ghosts in the rides.
See I couldn't have because I've never ridden the ride.
I haven't ridden the ride in years, so I was absolutely going off of the movie here.
Our last response, I mean, we got one other, but it's completely unrelated, was from Star
Wars Catfish who says Hatbox Ghost.
So yeah, again, classic choice.
The Hatbox Ghost, I loved the special on Disney Plus that went through all the rides and just
like the explanation behind the Hatbox Ghost.
Like it's insane.
I love the history behind that character.
What's the name of that documentary on Disney Plus?
I gotta check it out.
Let me Google that real quick.
Because I know it was on like a special features for like a Pirates movie.
So I don't know if it's probably on YouTube or something, but they did like kind of the
same thing, but they showcased like how they made the Pirates of the Caribbean ride.
And I remember how freaking, like I thought it was so cool as a kid, especially like how
they made the animatronics and how they had to transport them from where they actually
made them to the actual ride.
Literally you could see people's, because they just like had them like wrapped up in
like the bed of a truck and they actually got like footage of people's faces just like
seeing them in the back of the truck.
What the hell is that?
It's really funny.
Yeah, so the name of the show is Behind the Attraction.
Like I feel like that could easily guess that, but yeah, it's Behind the Attraction and they
go through like all the rides and like the history behind them.
Like they've done, like they did one on Jungle Cruise.
They did It's a Small World, Haunted Mansion obviously.
Haunted Mansion obviously.
I'm kidding.
I think they did Splash Mountain if I'm not mistaken.
There was the other one.
Oh, the President's one.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so the Hall of Presidents.
Yeah, Hall of Presidents.
I'm kind of shocked that they haven't taken Splash Mountain down considering that ride
doesn't exist anymore.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's a historical one.
I mean, that's true.
Yeah.
Dude, speaking of Splash Mountain, I think I told you about this.
Like the day after the ride closed, did you, I don't think it did, but I went on eBay just
to see like if anyone was selling stupid shit like Splash Mountain water and some people
were selling bottles of that stuff for upwards of two grand.
Dead serious.
None of it sold.
Thank God.
What?
Like, how do you even prove that?
Beats me.
But like, dude, I saw a clip on TikTok of people like trying to collect it and water
balls on the last day and cast members would get over the PA.
Don't collect the water.
I'm sure they had to say that a lot throughout that whole day.
Yeah, I mean, like you can't do it in like do it from the ride.
Freaking dummies when it's all dark and shit.
Well, I think when I mean, they were still doing that.
But I mean, Disney cast members can still see like you'd be amazed in the ride.
Pretty sure.
That's sketchy type of cameras.
Yeah, the type of cameras that they have nowadays on Disney rides.
Yeah, they can see everything.
Dude, how funny would it be for like I could just kind of picture like people going up
Splash Mountain and it's like right before they go down, the ride gets stopped and you
just like hear a cast member walk up the frickin hill, hand it over, grab the water bottle,
then walk back down and then it's like, you know, go down.
Oh, dude, that'd be amazing.
Yeah.
All right.
And then we did get one final response, which I'll obviously give to you because I read
the last one.
I'm giving it to you because I don't know how to say her last name anymore.
Wait what?
It's on the screen, bro.
Oh, freaking read.
I thought you were talking about Tik Tok.
I'm so confused.
Sorry.
OK, so I should just be fired.
Like honestly, can this just become the All Pro podcast?
No, the marketing is done.
Damn it.
OK, sorry.
Getting back on track here.
Final response come from a good friend, Sammy Lorenzo.
Sammy, I hope I said that right on Facebook.
You don't know?
She said, I hope.
Dude, I don't really talk.
I don't really ask people about their last names.
Do you know how long I was calling you?
Was it Albers?
I mean, that is technically how you say it.
I thought it was.
Oh, wait, no, sorry.
No.
Do you know how long I was calling you out Albers?
I mean, you're not wrong either way you say it.
So you can say you couldn't have told me that years ago.
Well, you didn't ask.
You son of a bitch.
Anyway.
Oh, you did say it right.
I did.
Yes.
Hell, yeah.
But so Sammy said, Caleb took it down.
Are you shitting me?
Frickin hurry up.
I'm sorry.
She said the one in the picture frame or at the table?
Good answers.
I've never I've never rode the ride, so I unfortunately don't know what ghosts you're
looking at or ghosts you're talking about.
I highly recommend watching the behind the attraction.
OK, because they like it's so cool.
Like they have we have or they have like the history behind all of the ghosts and the way
that they the way they came to be.
And then they even discuss like the difference because they have like the main staple ghosts,
but they have different ghosts based on which ride you're going to.
So the ones at Disneyland are different from the ones in Orlando and the ones in Orlando
are different from the ones in like Paris or France or.
I heard it.
Don't say anything.
What did you die?
Hell, I said no, I said the ones in Orlando are different from the ones that you you see
in Paris or France.
Oh God.
Frickin hell way to make me embarrass myself twice, man.
Hey, you're welcome.
You were absolutely welcome.
Shit.
This is truly pick on Caleb episode.
Yeah, I mean, I frickin did it to myself.
At least that go around.
But yeah, anyway.
All like every location has location specific ghosts.
So I know that like they have some in Japan and like all Disney locations, they have different
style of ghosts, which is super cool.
And they kind of go into each discussion.
And it's it's cool.
I love hearing about like the architecture behind those rides.
And like it is always cool.
And like the process between like of building something like that and how they have to adapt
it for different locations.
Like it's it's frickin crazy.
Yeah.
Like each Haunted Mansion looks different to like the one in Disneyland looks more like
a old colonial house.
And then the one in Orlando kind of has more of like a.
Like the New Orleans style vibe about it.
So like what we get in this one a little bit.
Yeah.
OK.
Or is it like a mix of both this one or in the movie?
Gosh, you're going to.
Sorry.
Hold on.
Looking for the picture.
I know this is boring.
All right, here we go.
Going to this one.
All right, check it.
So this is the one at Disneyland, I think.
What does the way you said that, you should try to sign him.
Yo, check it.
Shut up.
I don't know why that was so funny.
Wait, actually, no, I I've I think this is the one at Disneyland.
OK, one of these is from Disneyland.
One of these is from Paris.
One of these is from Japan.
I don't know where where these.
Where these specific ones are.
Let me see.
I'm going to guess the bottom left is from Disneyland.
You might be right, for all I know, I can't frickin find this page.
I hope so.
Let's see.
Sorry.
So this is the California one.
This is Orlando.
OK.
This is Tokyo.
Paris.
And this one's called Phantom Manor.
That's kind of funny.
Hong Kong.
And that's it.
Yeah.
Those are the different Disney lands.
I think California is my favorite.
The California one is sick.
That's a different.
Yeah.
That's that's definitely the oh, if I would if when I do ride Haunted Mansion, eventually
that is like definitely the one that like I want to shoot to ride.
Is that one?
Yeah, it's a frickin it's a it's a frickin treat.
If you get a chance to go on it.
I mean, unless you're me.
That that I honestly that might have accidentally ruined Disneyland for me, but I'm a major
bitch when it comes to scary rides.
So I've been told.
Anyway, thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week.
We really appreciate your responses.
But yeah, without further ado, let's actually get into this week's breakdown.
If you are new, if you are new here and don't know how our breakdown system works, we have
split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final
Albrose letter grade.
The eight categories that we score our story, writing, acting, character development, effects,
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal score at the very end.
All of those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us
a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade, as well as a percentage
that doesn't really matter.
But it is kind of fun to see how these end up ranking.
So without further ado, if you have not seen Haunted Mansion, it's a good one.
You're probably not going to want to listen to this if you don't like spoilers.
So you have been properly warned.
If you listen past this point, anything is spoiled for you.
It is your own damn fault.
So without further ado, let's get into our favorite segment we like to call Reading with
Rose.
But two E's.
Sure isn't my favorite segment.
Too bad.
Oh, alright, shit, I already had it pulled up and I lost it.
Okay.
Ben Mathias, an astrophysicist developing a camera to detect dark matter, meets and
marries Alyssa, a ghost tour guide and becomes entranced with hers with her belief in the
supernatural.
After Alyssa dies in a car accident, Ben gives up his career and continues to run her ghost
tour.
Years later, single mother Gabby and her son Travis move into Gracie Manor to turn it into
a bed and breakfast, only to learn that it is haunted with ghosts.
Ben is visited by the priest and exorcist Father Kent, who hires him to photograph the
ghosts.
Ben is initially incredulous until he returns home and is haunted by a ghost mariner who
forces him to return to the mansion.
Ben learns that Gabby, Travis and Kent have also fallen victim to hauntings, forcing them
to stay in the mansion.
Ben and Kent recruit Harriet, a psychic with legitimate powers, and steal blueprints to
the mansion from haunted house historian, Professor Bruce Davis.
The group finds a hidden seance room, and Harriet manages to contact the spirit of Gracie,
who leaves a written message instructing them to talk to the legendary, medium, Madame Lyoda.
Upon trying to do so, a mysterious entity forces Harriet out of the house.
Bruce arrives shortly afterwards and becomes haunted.
The group stay at the mansion, where they proceed to look for Lyoda's ghost.
Ben goes into the attic, where he runs afoul of a ghostly bride and finds a locked trunk
upon examining the contents.
They find a crystal ball, which houses Lyoda.
Lyoda reveals that William Gracie bought the mansion and recruited Lyoda to try and contact
the spirit of his dead wife, Eleanor, every night for a full year, releasing hundreds
of ghosts into the mansion before an evil entity tricked Gracie into taking his own
life and trapped Lyoda inside her crystal ball.
Harriet attempts to perform an astral projection for more answers, but ends up sending Ben
out of his body, who discovers Gracie, as well as the evil entity, the Hatbox Ghost.
The next morning, Bruce takes Ben to get a sketch artist to draw up the Hatbox Ghost
and identify him as Alistair Crump, a rich heir who killed his fellow socialites out
of revenge for his father's abusive behavior and the death of his mother before being beheaded
himself by his mutinous servants.
Crump proceeds to lock the mansion down, but Ben, Kent, and Travis manage to escape.
They find Crump Manor, which has become a historical site, and learn from the Mariner,
who followed them, that Crump needs someone to willingly give up their life and become
the mansion's one-thousandth spirit in order to escape the mansion.
Travis finds Crump's hat, which they can use as part of a ritual to banish Crump back
to the afterlife.
The three make it back to the mansion, where Ben and Kent rescue Gabby, Harriet, and Bruce,
but Crump burns the hat and plans to use Travis's grief over the loss of his father to have
him come to the other side.
Ben finds Travis and manages to convince him to let go of his father, as they and Gabby
confront Crump in the graveyard.
Ben makes peace with losing Alyssa, Kent manages to convince the Ghost to turn on Crump and
join forces with them, and Bruce delivers a piece of the hat to Harriet, who uses Lyota's
incantation to banish Crump.
Many of the Ghosts decide to stay at the mansion, now in harmony with Gabby and Travis.
Harriet regains full confidence in her psychic abilities.
Kent undergoes ordainment to become a real priest, Bruce maintains his newfound friendships,
and Ben goes back to teaching and adopts a stray cat named Taterta, a nod to his wife's
love for the snack.
The group reunites on Halloween for a party at the mansion with the Happy Haunts.
Fantastic.
Dude, this... like just kinda getting straight into the story, this was a really well done
story.
No I can definitely agree, like I don't know the story of the ride, like I don't know how
that story goes, but...
That story is more like, it's open for interpretation, they don't really have like a set story in
line.
Okay.
I mean, they kinda have like something that they walk you through a little bit, but it's
more or less just to enjoy the ride, so they don't really get into like the deep backstory
or whatever.
Like this, they keep with the... like someone moves into the haunted house, and like they're
stuck there, and like the whole haunted...
Like gosh, I wanna...
Hold on.
Uhhhh...
Okay, I'm trying to look up the... like what the story behind it is.
Okay, so it's just sharing ghost stories, is what I'm getting.
It's just sharing different ghost stories, like there's a ghostly sea captain, a mansion
home to an unfortunate family, a ghostly wedding party with well known Disney villains and
spooks.
So it's just... so Haunted Mansion is more just sharing like various ghost stories.
So like you get to see like the sea captain obviously, like they share that story, and
they share a bunch of other stories.
So there isn't any one dedicated ghost in the Haunted Mansion ride.
So what this basically did is they took all of those...
They took all of the...
No, I'm not bored, I'm just tired Sammy.
Sorry, I don't mean to keep yawning.
Oh balls, what was I saying?
What this did is it kind of like changed the lore behind the Hatbox ghost, because I think
the Hatbox ghost was just another ghost in the Haunted Mansion.
Like there wasn't anything special about him.
So they...
Like them turning him into like a main character or like an antagonist was a really well done
idea.
I agree considering that whenever...
I don't know, I feel whenever someone thinks of the Haunted Mansion ride, that's usually
the number one ghost that everyone thinks of is the Hatbox ghost.
As you can see from our question of the week, that was a lot of people's favorites.
And like a well deserved favorite.
They worked so hard on like mastering that ride.
Like it's insane.
The illusion is incredible.
But yeah, I loved what they did that these people are all stuck to a house because the
ghosts can now follow them and whatnot and be haunted in there.
Just drawing them near to basically serve the Hatbox ghost's ultimate plan.
But yeah, I thought that was like, it was really well done.
It's interesting too, because it's like these people can leave.
It's just they'd be haunted if they stay away for too long.
Which is really cool.
I love this concept and the execution of this was amazing.
I loved how it kind of opened up with a really heartwarming interaction between Ben and his
future wife and how it grew from there.
And all of the different ways that they incorporated that.
That story.
It was heartbreaking.
And it threw emotional moments at you where you wouldn't quite expect them.
Which I really like.
Very true.
Yeah.
Like you see the Hatbox ghost in the peak of this super crazy climactic moment.
And the Hatbox ghost in some last ditch effort says, you'll never see or your wife will never
know that you loved her and then it's just boom.
In that moment you get the flashbacks to all these moments where they're just stupid in
love and it like freaking breaks your heart.
It really does but it also brings up such an interesting point.
They get into an argument with a spouse, family member, even a close friend and it turns out
that was the last conversation you ever had.
They pass away the next day.
And it's interesting to think of how much that can affect your mental state of just
thinking well they think that they died believing that I was mad at them.
That I didn't love them.
That I had a problem with them.
But you definitely believe the idea that no once someone passes they just remember the
good stuff.
They remember all the good memories you had.
The love that you guys shared.
None of that last conversation, no matter I feel if it was good or bad, none of that
should matter.
Just all of the good memories that you had.
Yeah.
And it was interesting to see Ben accept that.
It was so well done.
I feel like the flow of this movie, it kept a really solid consistent pace.
There wasn't any moments where I felt like it was lagging.
Maybe if I had to complain about one it was maybe Ben's conversation with the kid.
But that's such a minor gripe for me.
No that's fair.
Especially for a close to two hour movie.
Or maybe it was actually two hours.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I felt that the story didn't drag at all.
Nothing really felt out of place.
I'll agree with you, Ben's conversation with the kid did maybe drag on for just a little
bit.
But yeah, no.
Like I said, for a two hour movie, especially a haunted mansion two hour movie, all the
story beats made sense.
Every character's motives, everything that they did in this movie made absolute sense
for the characters that it sets up at the beginning.
Yeah, no, overall this is a pretty damn good story.
I don't know exactly where I would put this.
I don't think I've quite cracked the 90s for this.
I would agree.
I would say that this is definitely above average because in the end this is kind of
a ghost hunting story.
It was about as predictable as you can get with that sort of thing.
Don't get me wrong, they had their good unique aspects.
I think I'm sitting around maybe in 85.
Yeah man, I think I'm in a match with that.
That's what I was thinking.
Next up we got writing.
This one's tough because this had some killer lines, but I think the overall script was
like slightly below average.
I can definitely agree with that.
I want your opinion on the whole, it turns out that Owen Wilson's character wasn't actually
a priest.
I mean he becomes one at the end, but he's telling Ben, I'm actually not one.
I just put this on to a...
What did he say his excuse was?
Do you remember by chance?
For a payday?
It felt so cheap, dude.
Why are we having this moment?
I was just going to say, it's Owen Wilson's character building up this whole thing with
Ben, and then it just has a flip-flop moment where now Owen Wilson's just like, oh no,
no, I'm scared.
He's like, nope, you don't get to be.
Yeah, no, seriously.
Kind of pointless.
I think it would have been much better if he would have just been like, I'm afraid to
do an exorcism.
Yeah, that would have made perfect sense, understandable.
But the whole fake...
It sucks that you get those kind of...
That kind of writing, leading into a joke that doesn't really pay off, but then you
have really good writing moments where it's when they're sitting around at the table and
Ben asks...
Oh my God, what was Tiffany Hatch's character's name?
Harriet.
He asks her if it's possible for her to connect with his wife.
She says that she's not able to and everything, but then I think in the next scene she explains
why she's not able to and how she passed over peacefully, whereas there's other ghosts that
aren't able to and there's a reason behind it, but she was able to go, I don't want to
say full, straight shot.
It's the way that she explains it to him and it's very sentimental, it's very heartfelt,
but it sucks that you get amazing, great writing like that in those two scenes and then you
get that kind of writing with Owen Wilson.
I know they tried to set it up for a joke, but it just didn't work.
It's like for every great line that they had, they had something stupid to follow it up.
I will say, the good ones do shine through.
My personal favorite is when Ben is pouring his heart out to the group about his relationship
with his wife and then Danny DeVito's character, Bruce, because he's talking about how she
was eating a cheese steak and then how she'd always go out to get tater tots or do this
or that or get ice cream.
After Ben's done pouring out his heart, Danny DeVito's character is just like, what the
hell was her cholesterol like?
It's so good.
Just like freaking roasting Ben and his relationship and then Owen Wilson's just talking and being
like, hey, we're going to get through this.
Probably not Ben.
He seems like he's the goner.
I freaking died, dude.
That was fantastic.
That was so good.
Oh shit.
There was some damn good writing.
I even liked the opening when they introduced the mansion when Gabby and Travis walk in
and they're just like, there's nothing to be afraid of.
Then she looks up, sees the knight and she's like, nope, and grabs him and freaking runs.
That is a very appropriate response.
I was not expecting that at all.
Considering in the trailer they show the scene of like, I'm going to light a Manila candle.
It's going to change everything.
You're just like, okay, so that's how we're going to set them up living.
Then after she says that, she looks up, sees the knight and she's like, nope.
I'm like, okay, coming off surprise.
All right, I'm very interested.
That set this up perfectly.
This is one of the things that I felt this did better than the 2003 version because in
the 2003 version, the whole haunting thing, that was just Eddie Murphy's character being
stubborn.
Yes.
But here there was a genuine reason behind it.
That felt amazing.
It gave good solid reasonings behind everything.
But yeah, love that scene.
Travis was freaking hilarious going into the room and he's like, nope.
Like not playing this game.
Gosh.
Then even I feel like the writing for the hat box ghost was really well done too.
Yes.
It was so scary, intimidating, but also you understood where it was coming from too.
It was great.
I freaking love that.
I will say too, at the end, I do wish that maybe the...
What's it called?
I do wish that the ending would have been a little bit more a mixture between a party
with alive people and the ghosts.
I think that would have been really well done.
Maybe they did open up the bed and breakfast and it's just super popular during Halloween.
That would have been really cool.
Yeah, dude.
That would have been awesome.
So yeah, overall it was good.
I think when the writing was good, it was really good.
I think cracking in the 90s good.
But it's just the dumb stuff brought it down.
It made it a little tough to be like, okay, we see what you're doing.
Freaking get to the good shit.
So I...
I might be around the same with writing, right on the same level, sitting at an 85.
Because I'm averaging out where I think the writing...
I think the good writing would be at a 90 and the not so great would be around an 80.
So I think I'm just going to meet myself in the middle.
Yeah, man.
I got to agree with you on this one too.
Yeah.
You're absolutely right.
Okay, moving on over to acting.
We have LaKeith Stanfield who plays Ben Mathias.
Rosario Dawson who plays Gabby.
Owen Wilson who plays Father Kent.
Tiffany Haddish who plays Harriet.
Danny DeVito who plays Bruce Davis.
Jamie Lee Curtis who plays Madame Leota.
Chase Dillon who plays Travis.
Jared Leto who plays Crump.
Or yeah, Crump or the Hatbox Ghost.
And then I'll say that's it.
Like those are the main people.
Yeah I can definitely agree with you on that one.
So who...
Like where are you sitting with...
Or like what's your top three look like?
Number one...
Oh no, sorry.
Number three.
I probably give to Danny DeVito.
Even though he was a part of the big part of the group, I did expect him to have a little
bit bigger of a role.
But for what we got from him, he was fantastic as always.
Like you said with the whole line after Ben just pours his heart and soul out to the group
and he chimes in with his wife's cholesterol level.
That was great when they're at that...
Is it...
Tipinaki place?
I don't know what the hell it's called.
Yeah.
That was great.
Whenever he was on screen, freaking guys stole the show.
But he does that in every movie.
So definitely got to give number three to Danny DeVito.
Two, I would give to Tiffany Haddish.
I absolutely loved her in this.
She was so great as a median.
And the fact when they're all sitting in the circle, joining hands and everything, and
she starts getting into her trance and starts snoring and everyone's just like, should we
wake her up?
And she's just like, do you mind?
I'm trying to focus here.
She was great.
I loved it.
I loved Tiffany Haddish.
Right?
She was so good in this.
But number one, I definitely got to give to Lakeith Stanfield.
Who played Ben.
Not only was his backstory and whole...
Not only his backstory, but his whole story throughout was so, so good.
His acting was absolutely incredible.
And yeah, I absolutely freaking loved him in this movie.
So yeah, that would be my top three.
Gosh, I think I got to agree with you.
I will say this.
So my number one and two, absolutely.
Lakeith Stanfield, Tiffany Haddish, all day.
My number three, I was kind of bouncing back and forth between Danny DeVito and Jared Leto
because I felt his performance with the Hapbox Ghost.
To whatever degree that he was playing the Hapbox Ghost.
I felt like he did a really good job with the voice acting.
It sounded scary, super intimidating, and the Hapbox Ghost just kind of had this look
about him that was really just terrifying.
So I thought that...
Very true.
It was crazy.
But yeah, I think Danny...
I got to give it to Danny DeVito because it's freaking Danny DeVito, dude.
They got...
Exactly.
You want to talk about someone...
Okay, listen.
I know Danny DeVito ages, but it's like...
Unfortunately.
It's like no one tells his body because he's still doing shit.
They had to throw him up on wires for some of the shit that they did to him.
For someone his age, that is wild.
Yeah, seriously.
He's still doing a lot of physical humor, which is fantastic.
I freaking love it.
I will say I 100% thought that he died.
That's fair.
I thought the same thing.
But luckily he didn't.
Yeah, thank goodness.
But I was like, oh shit.
When he was dying and he sees the Hapbox Ghost coming at him, I'm like, oh shit.
And so obviously when he was taken over, I thought the Hapbox Ghost left him and then
it's just like his dead corpse just falls to the floor.
I was like, dude, what is this movie?
Dude, imagine if Disney did that.
That'd be insane.
That would have been a behalsey move.
Yeah, very.
But I would have lost my mind, dude.
That was freaking...
Same here.
...terrifying.
But yeah, I think that's why I'm giving it to Danny.
Like I said, it could flip flop, but I think I got to give it to him just because of what
he had to go through.
And obviously he was fantastic.
He was freaking Danny DeVito.
True.
But yeah, like same thing with Tiffany Haddish and Lakeith Stanfield.
I think they play their parts amazingly well.
This is easily the best acting that I feel we've seen from Tiffany Haddish.
Absolutely agree.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and obviously we'll get into it with costumes, but she looked fantastic.
She did so good.
Yeah, so loved it.
So where are you sitting with your acting score?
I don't know.
No one really brought it down for me that much, if any.
So I'd say I'm a little above writing.
Or not a little, a couple points.
So I'm going 89.
I might be a hair lower than you.
I think I'm sitting around an 87.
Interesting.
So okay, I was going to say like this is technically like a scary movie.
So do we do like the logic of this?
But I think there's enough development to justify us doing the character development.
Yeah, yeah.
But honestly, this is some of the best character development I've seen in any horror movie.
Yeah.
I guess not horror.
I mean, would you really?
No, you really can't count this as a horror movie.
Right?
You can't.
Considering I didn't end up plugging my ears at any point, I'm going to say no.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, so I think the one with like the biggest growth was definitely Ben.
Absolutely.
Kind of having that acceptance and just kind of like ridding himself of the guilt that he felt over how his wife had passed.
So I thought like that growth was really well done.
And it's like it's interesting to see because it's like he, I think like the way that they
did it was really well done.
So it's just you see him like at the frickin bottom, like rock, rock bottom, like with
how he's continuing to do his wife's ghost tours and everything basically like ripping
on anyone who believes that in that stuff and then working towards like believing in
ghosts and spirits, but then like kind of coming face to face with his guilt again.
When he realizes that he can't communicate with his his wife and then like never really
like getting over that until he has to help someone else through their grief.
Like helping Travis through his grief about his father, like that was fantastic.
I absolutely agree, especially that scene when they're down in I think it was the basement.
Yeah, like some sort of basement.
Yeah, but how Travis is just screaming like, you know, it never got better once he left.
It's never going to get better.
And just like, I don't know, I feel that like, you know, it's definitely not something that
they tried to set out for.
But like, I feel it's a very heavy topic about a kid wanting to just end it all just to be
with their dad again.
Like that was pretty hard, that was pretty hard hitter.
But the fact that Ben was, you know, able to talk him out of it and everything, because,
you know, it actually wasn't his dad.
Yeah, was such a great not only a great character moment for Ben, but just a great scene in
general.
Dude, did you have any indication that his dad was dead?
No, that was a frickin shock to me, too.
Yeah, I was like, oh, shit.
Okay.
Usually I feel like I'm able to call that gut punch.
I felt like I was like, I'm usually able to call shit like that out.
But I think they pulled it off like well enough that I didn't quite see it coming until he
was like, I'm going to like, stay and talk to my dad.
And then he just like opens up a notebook.
I was like, what the?
You're so Oh, oh, no, no, no, this is gonna go horribly.
He's got to do this.
I'm like, wait, I doubt that they have any cell service out here.
Like, I know that's what I thought, too.
I was just like, this seems like an odd time to call your dad.
Okay, I get it now.
Yeah, I flipped out like real bad.
Yeah.
emotional gut punch, super emotional gut punch, man.
Like, oh, so
Where are you sitting with character development?
I don't know for the most part, I feel it's pretty solid.
It wasn't like anything like groundbreaking.
But overall, like I thought it was a really good character arc for for our main character
Ben.
So I think I'll think I'll be like slightly above my my writing and stories.
I'll go like an 86.
I am actually going the opposite direction.
Actually, I might be going down to like an 83.
Like not saying it was like horrible or anything.
Like it was still good.
I'd just say it's above it was above average, but just not quite up in like the 85 range.
Okay.
And I thought Caleb liked this movie more than I thought I did too.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
I mean, I guess we'll see with our personal scores.
I feel that's where it's really going to come down to it.
I feel like that might differ a lot.
All right.
Next up, we got effects.
These were so good.
Yeah, I thought these were I mean, I will say that because like the glow around the
ghosts is blue.
And so it reminded me a lot of Ghostbusters answered the call of how the ghosts look in
that one, which I'm totally fine with.
I'm actually okay with because I love how the ghosts look in that movie.
They did look really good.
Right.
So yeah, not only how just the like the other ghosts looked, not the main ghosts.
Though, yeah, those look great.
But frickin the hat box ghosts look so frickin good.
Like holy shit.
I feel that they definitely did not cheap out when it came to the effects of these of
this movie, which I really appreciate.
Oh, yeah, dude, I feel you can't with a haunted mansion a movie.
Yeah, like this is definitely one where their budget shows.
But yes, it's done well.
Like it's the way that I like I'm looking at this is like with Madame Liotta.
I loved like you get to see her in and out of her little crystal ball.
But when she's in it, she has like this otherworldly vibe about her.
And you can tell that they did some like CG enhancements on her face.
I don't know exactly honestly, but if I didn't know, I honestly wouldn't have guessed that
that was Jamie Lee Curtis saying at least when she's in the ball.
Yeah, like when she's, you know, in like real life.
Yeah, you can.
I can definitely tell it's Jamie Lee Curtis.
But yeah, in the ball, like, no, even her voice, like you can definitely tell she disguised
it a little bit.
Yeah, I never I never would have guessed that's Jamie Lee Curtis.
Dude, even outside of the crystal ball, it didn't quite sound like her.
That's fair.
That's that is like it was very few and far between like the moments where I was like,
oh, yeah, that is Jamie Lee Curtis.
But in the crystal ball, I was like, I'm having a real tough time seeing her.
Yeah, right.
I mean, I mean, that's good.
Like that.
I appreciate that.
They, you know, definitely tried to change.
They they definitely tried to make her not look like Jamie Lee Curtis to wherever it
was just like, oh, yeah, it's Jamie Lee Curtis.
It's not Madame Leota.
Like they actually tried to make her make her look different than what she usually looks
like.
Yeah, I really appreciate it.
It's really good.
I appreciate the hell out of that.
And like, it's nice, too, because it like, like what she just said, it does kind of separate
the actor from the character.
So I think that worked out really well in its favor.
Agreed.
But yeah, all the ghosts looked amazing.
I'll say this, like I'll throw in like the paintings and stuff.
The paintings that you see are really freaking scary.
Dude, seriously, especially like the guy with the axe.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, like, I mean, I wish that we wouldn't have seen it in the trailer when Ben's walking
through the hallway and each picture of that guy keeps changing.
Yeah.
Like, I really like I get, you know, they wanted to show that in the trailer to, you
know, like, really get people hype for this movie.
But like, I wish that the movie was the first time we saw that because like, that is such
a great scene.
I love that.
Agreed.
Dude, one of my personal favorite, like, at least when it comes to like the paintings
was the one of the bride at the beginning.
That painting is scary.
Yeah, that shit was terrifying.
I love that.
And then like when you see her scene later when Ben's going into the attic and you see
like the pictures of her and all of her ex-husbands and then like, Ben would walk past it and
then their like their head would be gone.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
And then like when when Ben is is like sitting there and he like looks at the mirror and
he sees that his head is gone, it took me a second to realize what he was like doing.
I was like, OK, what's up with this?
And then I noticed his head was gone.
I was like, like, I like there were so many times where I like gasped in this movie because
I was just sitting there like, what's going on?
Oh, no.
Oh, for like, yeah, this this shit got wild.
And I loved it for that.
It was so good.
Gosh, one scene that I wasn't expecting to look as good as it did is when Ben was running
like through the the ghost realm.
Yes.
Yeah, that was great.
Yeah, like, like that was it was just as like I think this is where it like matched the
ride really well, where the ride they they're trying to like jar you.
So I kind of throw off your sense of direction because they're constantly spinning you like
things are doing like weird, weird stuff.
And so it's like it's disorienting, disorienting.
Yeah, that's the word.
But like it's I thought they did like fantastic with that.
Absolutely agree.
I mean, overall, the effects were like rock solid.
I mean, obviously you get like the obvious CGI with the hat box ghost and some of like
the other ghosts.
But I think they did a decent job, like at least making it look as real as they could
be.
Oh, the frickin like the I forget what like which ghost it was, but the one with like
the bulging eye, I think it's like the lamp lighter or whatever when he took over Ben's
body and like Ben kind of has that bulging eye for a second.
I was like, oh, jeez.
Yeah.
Like the effects were solid in this.
They were agreed.
Honestly, this might have cracked the 90s for me.
I thought they did a really good job.
I am docking for the CG rubberiness, though.
All right, fair.
So I think that's going to keep me like I think it's going to keep me like at a 90.
Yeah, I would I would absolutely agree.
All right.
Next up, we got music.
This was a pretty frickin kickass soundtrack.
It was.
It definitely was.
I I will say I've heard better in like this kind of like what's the word?
Like the genre.
Yeah, this genre and this kind of setting of film like, you know, like anything haunted.
But overall, like it really was pretty damn good.
Like nothing that I mean, I wasn't like humming any of the tunes leaving the theater.
I mean, you don't get anything that you're just like, oh, I can sing along to.
It's mostly just, you know, like humming main themes, stuff like that.
I mean, I kind of got that near the end, like that final song a little bit like that's kind
of been my fair enough.
Like it's interesting because it's like that's not the song that got stuck in my head.
Like when I left for like whatever reason, it was like that is a completely different
song.
It was like the the spooky, spooky skeletons one.
I'm like.
Like I said, I don't like no idea why that was the one that got stuck in my head, but
it did.
It's a good song.
Yeah.
But I love the the incorporation of like the New Orleans style music.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, absolutely loved that.
Yeah, like like when like when the movie opened and, you know, showcase the setting was going
to be New Orleans.
I'm like, yeah, I'm in.
Oh, this is going to be great.
Same same here.
Dude, that made me want to go to frickin New Orleans for a funeral.
Dude, seriously.
Like like it got me frickin pumped.
Like I was just I was.
In it, I was ready to frickin go.
Oh, music wise.
I don't know where I'm sitting with this one.
I think I'm like leaning more towards an eight.
I'd be like at an eight and a half.
I can go eight or nine.
I'm at an eight.
I can absolutely meet you there.
Like that that one 100 percent makes sense.
All right.
Next up, we got costumes and bro.
So, so good.
These were fantastic.
Like I'm thinking like Madame Leota's, dude.
Holy shit.
Yeah, dude.
Hers.
I already forgot her name.
Haddish's character.
Oh, frickin Harriet.
Harriet.
Dude.
Loved her.
Yeah, loved hers.
Just like their aesthetic in general was like off the hook.
Yeah, agreed.
Do I I really dug.
Look Keith Stanfield's look.
Yes, I agree.
Like he.
He looked great.
He kind of had like a like from Princess and the Frog, Dr. Facilier or like kind of that
like vibe.
Dude, can you imagine if he was chosen for the live action?
Oh, I would lose that is perfect casting.
Perfect.
Do he nailed that look like I'm almost bummed that it got used.
It's like it's already used in this movie because I'm like that would have translated
so well because he like he has that like just that aesthetic about him in this where I'm
like, dude, he could easily play Dr. Facilier.
Yeah, he really could have like in a in a frickin perfect world like easily would have
been cast.
But old man, I I was pumped to see him.
Yeah.
I loved his look like so much like I I liked him better with the longer dreads than I liked
his short hair.
Dude, same here.
Yeah.
Like like done right.
I looked good with short hair, but he looks so cool.
Those frickin dreadlocks were killing.
Oh, yeah.
Like he looks so cool.
Everyone else.
I kind of had like basic costumes, but I mean, I won't talk too much.
I mean, Rosario Dawson, like her her outfits were nice, like well put together.
But I mean, those it's like Keith Stanfield, frickin Tiffany Haddish and Jamie Lee Curtis
were the standouts and and also say the Hat Box ghost was a pretty decent standout, too.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Like I dug what they did with that.
That whole look like they translated it well, because I don't think you ever see him with
his head on.
Like you only see his head inside the hat box.
So I thought like that looked incredible.
It did.
Gosh.
Do we dare go up to a 10?
I can give it 10.
Part of me is like somewhat.
You know what?
A 10 feels strong for me because I'm sitting at like a nine and a half.
But if you if you're giving it a 10, I can give it a 10.
I'm more like a soft 10.
I was I was trying to agree with you more.
I'm more of a nine, man.
Sorry.
Why are you apologizing?
It's your score, dude.
Because you know me.
Come on.
All right.
Last up, we got our own personal score.
All right.
You want me to take this?
Yeah, I want to hear where you're sitting at first.
OK, so overall, really, really good adaptation of the ride.
Like I've never read Red Road Haunted Mansion at Disneyland or Disney World, any of those
places.
But honestly, if the ride's atmosphere is anything like this movie, then sign me up
because not only are the characters really good, the storytelling is really good, but
just the whole atmosphere is amazing.
The effects are great.
This is a really good movie that is based off an attraction.
So I think I'm sitting.
I think I'm sitting on 83.
That's fair.
That is absolutely fair.
Really I'm just a couple points higher than you.
I'm sitting at like a solid 85.
I know I'll give it a couple.
I'll give it a couple bonus.
I'll sit at like an 87.
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
I went into it already kind of a little anxious because I was afraid it was going to be like
super scary.
It was like the perfect level of scary for me.
There was no cheap jump scares, which I think that alone deserves the freaking bonus points.
So I appreciated that there were no jumps or no undeserved jump scares.
The story was really well done.
Like pacing was good.
Like everything about this was really solid.
It wasn't like the best in the world or anything, but it was really good.
And like it was fun too.
I really enjoyed how fun this movie was in the end and how heartfelt it was too.
I feel like they can get super distracted trying to go scary that they failed to give
us a solid story.
And this just kind of proves that you can kind of have both.
That's true.
So yeah, I'm going to sit at like an 87.
Alright well with that, that actually concludes this week's breakdown.
So going through the categories real quick.
Starting off with story, we are sitting at a very sturdy 85.
Same thing with writing.
Acting got a couple points higher sitting at an 88.
Directed development was kind of the lower point of this sitting at an 84.5.
The effects averaged out to a 90.
Music we agreed sitting at an 8 because it was really good.
Costume sitting at a 9, just shy of 10.
And then our personal score averaged out to an 85.
So with that, the final Albrows letter grade for Haunted Mansion 2023 has come out to a
a B plus.
Hey, not bad.
Not bad at all.
So it is sitting at an 86.56, which in terms of B plus, it was real close to not cracking
B plus.
Our cutoff is 86.
And like I said, this got an 86.56.
So it was seriously a half percentage away from being in the B range.
Damn, that's crazy.
So going through, let's see, let me set the chart.
Where are you?
OK, right here.
All right.
So Haunted Mansion, like I said, sitting at an 86.56 puts it on the exact same level as
Scream 2022.
OK.
Yeah, I can absolutely get behind that.
Yeah, I can.
Yeah, I can as well.
Going what it's below first, it's sitting below Frozen 2, which is at an 86.59.
It is below In the Heights, which is at an 86.81.
It's below Nightmare Alley, which is at an 86.87.
It's below Nobody, which is at an 87.
And then it is below Halloween, 1978, which is at an 87.06.
I'm OK with that.
All right, going the opposite direction, it is sitting above Black Atom, which is at an
86.5.
It is also above Evil Dead Rise, which is at an 86.43.
All right, I'll accept that.
It's above Captain Marvel, which is at an 86.25.
Wow, OK.
And then it is also above Spider-Man Homecoming, which is at an 86.22.
And then finally, it is above Nightmare on Elm Street, which is at an 86.12.
All right.
Yeah, I am not upset about this ranking whatsoever.
Yeah.
Yeah, honestly, I don't think I am either.
That's a pretty damn good ranking.
Yeah, that's a super solid ranking.
One of the more, like the less controversial ones we've had recently.
That's true.
Yeah, that is very true.
So maybe that's why I like it so much.
Yeah.
Fair.
But anyway, unless you have anything else you want to say about this movie other than
go check it out.
Yeah, I got nothing.
OK.
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I thought he was going to say the Albrose family, honestly, for a minute.
I mean that too, I guess.
Oh, OK.
All right.
I like that too, sure.
This passes it off.
OK.
Damn.
Yeah.
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Deuces.
So long.
I'm going to sweep there a little bit.
Whoa.
Caleb hit puberty again.
Finally.
Oh, yeah.