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Welcome to the Love and Context podcast in Unscripted Conversation where Ben and Spencer
talk in a manner that is not scripted.
There's only a finite number of ways you can say that.
It's going to get to the point where it's like 45 seconds long.
Yeah.
So if you're going to go into the whole thing with AI random generation, it's going to be
like, AI, how do I say this differently?
So today we wanted to take a second to talk about Exodus because it comes up throughout
the Bible and they keep referencing back to this point.
And so it's really important that we understand major themes of what's happening in Exodus
because it is a reoccurring conversation throughout the Bible.
And if we don't get a handle on it, then we're going to miss a lot of what they're talking
about later.
Yeah.
So just a reminder, we're going to just talk about God's redemptive work through the Exodus
and specifically how he partners with humanity and Israel to put his story on display.
So all the way back at the beginning of Exodus, we have the story of the midwives and then
God hears the distress of his people.
I think it's really important that we always remember that God is the God who hears.
That's super important.
Yeah.
Paul's going to say it while we were still sinners.
In the story of the flood, God remembers Noah.
In the story of Abraham on the mountain, God provides a sacrifice.
He also walks the blood path twice.
Like God is the one who initiates the conversation between humanity and him.
Yeah.
God is the one who he's going to hear you even in the times where it feels like he's
silent.
And I think that's echoed in Exodus as well because you have the midwives backing up to
that where they still had reverence and fear and awe of the Lord, even though they hadn't
heard from him in a long time.
At the end of that chapter, it's in God heard the cries of his people.
So God's going to hear you even if it feels like he's distant and he's going to respond
in a way that is most likely going to blow your mind.
And specifically, he typically will partner with humanity, which is the next thing we
see God raising up a generation through Moses that is actually capable of leading an Exodus.
Because Moses is a very unique kind of person because he is both Hebrew and raised in Pharaoh's
court.
Yep.
He knows both the Hebraic roots and the Egyptian roots.
He's well educated and has a lot of influence all throughout the region.
It's very intentional who God is actually raising up, which I think is always important
for us to remember that when God calls us to something, it's not an accident.
There's a reason why you're called to it.
In fact, we were actually talking about this on Sunday that sometimes we are like, oh,
we need to bring the pastor in to talk to our friend about Jesus.
They don't know your friend.
God raised you up, put you in that situation in order to speak into their life.
I think pastors are there for support and help and prayer and all those different things,
but they're meant to equip the body.
Yeah.
They're meant to equip the saints and send them out.
And one of the things that always drives me is when people are like, well, let's bring
you to church so you can hear about Jesus.
You are the church, so you should be telling them about Jesus.
Hey, spoiler alert.
That's looking ahead in the Bible.
So we chuckle out about it right now.
And there are people who do that really well.
Let's be clear on that.
But we're talking about that right now because God's put you in their life to be Christ to
them.
And so then as God continues to work with Moses, we've talked about in our episodes
that God actually comes and engages Moses.
He says, hey, I want to bring deliverance.
So I'm going to tell you who I am.
Yeah.
I'm going to give you my power and my authority.
I'm going to let you do signs and wonders in my name.
And Moses says, I still can't do it.
And so he sends Aaron with him, even though he's a serious dude.
I'm giving you everything.
But he's still sending Aaron with him and meeting him in his, I'm going to call it
a disbelief or failure to believe Moses was afraid and scared.
And I think we skip over that, but the burning bush, he gives five excuses.
These five excuses are excuses we most likely have all given in our lives.
The last one being like, I just don't want to, which is always the most accurate, but
he's used.
I'm not good with words.
Who am I going to say sent me like all these things.
Like he uses all these excuses because he's afraid, he's scared.
There's change that's coming.
He's being called to leave this life.
That's been comfortable to him.
He's been married, has kids at this point.
It's been called to leave that life and do something miraculous with God.
And God's not just calling him to just go in and take the Israelites out.
He's actually calling him to go because God is actually going to pursue Pharaoh and Egypt.
The whole thing about the 10 plagues is he's going to judge the gods of Egypt.
Yeah.
And he is approaching Pharaoh and being like Pharaoh, will you follow me?
Because it's always been about all nations and it always will be about all nations.
And so if you think it's about just your nation, stop that.
It's about all nations.
It's not just about us.
It's about we.
Yeah.
I am not the temple of the Holy spirit.
We are.
Yeah.
And if I start kicking people out because I don't like the way that they look, I'm suddenly
missing a wall or a roof and I, I'm not a construction person, but I feel like houses
don't work that when they don't have those, especially walls.
If you don't have walls, like you don't have a house, let's just be real.
I was thinking about this here.
It's something that I just realized when I was actually looking over our notes as we're
going to have a conversation here.
Did you notice that there are 10 plagues on Egypt and there's also 10 words of God?
Yep.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
It's almost like he's canceling out to you and being like, this is the new.
Not that he would ever do that.
That's never something that happens throughout the Bible.
I hope you all can understand sarcasm.
Yeah.
That's going to be very helpful for you.
Didn't you say your sister has trouble understanding sarcasm?
So she, this might just like.
She gets it.
Like it takes her moment, but she gets it.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to guess my sister's name anymore.
It was a fun game for a little bit, but then one day my sister video called us.
I handed the phone to Ben and I was like, Hey, this is my friend Ben.
You can't tell him your name though.
And she's, Oh, okay.
And then my daughter comes up and is, Hey, it says her name.
And I was like, that game is done.
That game is done now.
So that's how I gave him.
So God is having this conversation.
He's, he's challenging everything that Egypt trust in.
Right.
He's challenging everything that Pharaoh trust in.
And he's saying, will you trust me instead?
Now ultimately Pharaoh says no.
And I believe that God respects that.
And so he takes his people and they go, yeah.
God's not going to force you to follow him.
No, he's not.
He will invite you to the table though.
Yeah.
And so God leads them out to the Red Sea.
He leads them to a spot where they feel trapped, where they feel helpless.
Will they feel like there's nothing they can do and there is nothing they can do.
Yeah.
It is, they are trapped, but there is still a pillar of fire between them and pillar of
cloud between them and Egypt.
So yeah, they're trapped, but yeah, yeah, they're trapped.
Like they're trapped and there's nothing that they're doing that's holding our army back.
Correct.
Like God told them that army back.
He splits the Red Sea and he sends the people through the Red Sea on it to the other side.
And so God leads them to a point where he's like, Hey, watch me work again.
So he doesn't just lead them through the Red Sea.
They get on the other side and they worship in the desert, which we talked about with
Pastor Nick about why it's really important that when God moves, our natural response
is worship.
Yeah.
But he doesn't just lead them through.
He feeds them from manna from heaven.
They get water from a rock.
They get more meat than they can know what to do with because they were whining about
not having meat.
And then bigger thing than all of that, and God then calls identity into them.
He says, you will for me be a kingdom of priests, which is a really big deal, especially when
we talk about next week when we're going to be getting into Leviticus.
What does it actually mean to be a nation of priests for God most high?
And understand that from the culture they're coming from.
They're coming from a culture where being a priest was borderline royalty.
Correct.
So when God is saying, Hey, I'm going to make you a nation of priests, what they're thinking
of, they're not thinking of, Oh, it's going to be a nation of pastors.
They're thinking nation of royalty.
Yeah.
A nation of well off.
We're getting into well off people who are going to have so much in their lives.
Yeah.
It's a position that you jockey for.
It's like political maneuvering to get this position, which does eventually happen in
that context.
I think about the silent years between the remnant returning and Jesus coming.
There is this whole thing about the Maccabean rebellion during which we celebrate Hanukkah
over, and the zealots take back the land and then they turn it over to the priesthood because
they're not the ones who are supposed to be in charge of the temple.
And then immediately they corrupt the temple with this heavily monetized perspective.
We've called them the Jewish mafia because that's what we like to call them.
Yeah.
Or it's like this whole like racket that they're running under the guise of religious fellowship.
Yeah.
And so God here in Exodus, he's saying, hey, I'm going to give you this royalty that you
jockey for, that you maneuver your way in to.
And he's going to speak new context into what they understand, which is really important
for us to understand in the Old Testament.
One of the really interesting things here is just piggybacking off what Ben says.
They're going to speak new context.
How many times has God in your lives taken something that you know you understand and
he speaks new context and new life into that?
Just everything that's been like significant.
He does that with the disciples when he calls them, when he sees them fishing, he's like,
hey, come with me and you'll become fishers of men.
And beyond that, how many parables does Jesus tell?
He talks to them about something that they see.
And he's like, you know how a sower goes and sows seed in a field?
Like that's breathing new context into a context that they understand.
Yeah.
So he does that so many times.
God's speaking in a context that the Israelites would understand.
He's meeting them in a language that they'd understand and be like, okay, this is what's
going to happen and it's going to look like this, which is different than.
Correct.
And so like we said, is he says that they're going to be a nation of priests.
Now there's going to be a Levitical priesthood, but they are actually a nation of priests.
And we're going to get into a lot more of that when we get into Leviticus.
So I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but just have that in the back of your
head that God says you're going to be a whole nation of priests.
And then he goes further than that and he does what no other God before them has done.
And he says, I'm going to explain to you exactly who I am and exactly how I'm going to interact
with you and how I expect you guys to interact with each other.
Yeah.
And that's in the 10 words.
Yeah.
And we talked about the 10 words a few weeks ago, but the 10 words really is a covenant
God is making with his people.
He's simplifying down all these rules, regulations into 10 simple things right now.
And everything spurs from that.
And a lot of times what we do is we jump to, hey, there's no other God before me.
And God's saying, he actually has more to say before that.
Right.
Yeah.
He actually, he comes out and he's like, hey, I am the one who led you out of Egypt.
Right.
I'm the one who's brought you here.
I am the one who's freed you from captivity.
And that refrain is also what comes up very frequently in the rest of scripture.
Yeah.
When you look at it through the rest of Torah, when you look at it, Leviticus, Deuteronomy,
in Numbers, God frequently come back and he says I am the Lord your God who brought you
out of the land of Egypt.
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt.
I'm the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt.
The land of Egypt's where you were, and I'm the Lord your God who brought you out of it.
A lot of these things going on and on.
And then as they look at Joshua, and you look at Kings, you look at Samuel, you look at
the prophets, He's going to say this every time he comes to them, when it's judgment,
when it's discipline, when it's correction says, I'm the Lord your God who brought you
out of the land of Egypt.
Almost always paired with that and I'm Lord your God the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob
He's reminding them of their story
Which I think is really important for us to remember because how often do we actually not know the story of our heritage?
Yeah
In the ten words like the second half of the ten words you hear things like hey don't steal don't murder
Don't covet all those things and you're like, oh, okay
You're like that's not hard to do in the context of which the Israelites were coming from
There was actually context around them that had to do a child sacrifice
There was context around them that had to do with taking what you want
Might makes right. Yep. Yep. There was context around them about stealing so you could like around coveting
Let's not even we're gonna touch on this briefly, but we're gonna talk more in Leviticus. Yeah actual thing. Yeah in that culture
Yeah, so the cons like when you're reading Exodus
Take some time to understand that culture that they were in and it actually brings to light a ton of
Revelations of why God actually said things like hey, don't murder
Don't steal don't covet it brings to light why he's saying those things because they might sound simple from our westernized view
But understanding in the context of child sacrifice taking what you want so on so forth
Can really bring to light why God's having to say those things
So in the wake of God revealing to them who he is and we get the golden calf incident
Where they can't wait 40 days for Moses to come back down the mountain, which to be fair is very reminiscent of most of our lives
We can't wait 40 days for God to move
We can't wait two days for free shipping from companies
shmamazam rhyme, yeah
So they struggle they're waiting for they can't wait for God and so they're like
Oh, we'll just make gods who brought us out of the land of Egypt, which is ridiculous in and of its own, right?
because like
You made the idol it clearly didn't bring you out
But at the same time it's totally understandable and relatable in the sense that they're returning to what they know
like the worship of idols of golden calves of
Anything of that nature was what they would have known in Egypt and so to be like, okay
Our patience has run out. Let's return to what we know
the
Astounding thing about what God does here though
Is he actually forgives another sin? He reissues his instructions for the temple
He reissues his covenant with them again
and then he leads them by the cloud and
Into repentance and restoration of the relationship to where at the beginning of this situation
He says my presence isn't going to go with you till at the very end
He says my presence is going to lead you
Yeah
That he actually walks Israel through a process of repentance because God is gentle and he's really looking for his kids to actually come and follow him
Yeah
So we touched on it
But the exodus is going to be referenced all over the bible and it's also going to be talked about a lot in the new testament
There's going to be there's going to be references when you come into the new testament
Jesus is speaking into a context
The assumption that when Jesus is talking to the jewish people is that they know their torah and so frequently
Jesus is going to quote from deuteronomy. He's going to go from exodus. He's going to go from genesis
He's going to go from all over the torah in order to breathe into them now as torah made flesh
What God actually wanted for them? In fact the sermon on the mount very frequently
He's going to make a statement
He says you have heard it said but I say unto you and i've heard a lot of teachers and I understand where they're getting this from
But contextually say Jesus is just raising the anti
But that's not what's happening in rabbinic conversation in rabbinic conversation
If a rabbi says you have heard it said but I say unto you
What he's saying is you've been taught this but it was always this do not
Commit adultery was always supposed to lead you to be the kind of person who didn't look lustfully at another
Do not murder was always supposed to lead you to be the kind of person who didn't have anger
Like this is the goal of the law was to create you into a ethical moral
Functioning person that puts the story of god on display. Yeah to put it in really practical terms
Have you ever had a moment where you're doing something one way and someone comes along?
It's like hey if you do it this way
And then you do it their way and you're like, oh, that's how it's supposed to be done
That's literally every time I do a like a construction thing or like i'm doing something with my car and you're like
Oh, it's not supposed to be that way. Yeah, and i'm like, oh really? Uh-huh
So for those of you don't know ben's not a car guy. We have established this multiple times in the podcast
I'm sure they are aware. I'm not a car guy
Yeah, just to reiterate ben's not a car guy. And so
Usually when ben has a car question and he calls me he's it's making a noise and i'm like
I feel like i'm talking to my wife right now
It's making a noise. Okay
car no go vroom
something wrong
But let's just run off the car analogy here
but I remember when I was first learning how to change the oil in my car like all I had was a crescent wrench and
It worked like you could make it work and then someone's like hey
Why don't you use this socket and then I use a socket and I was like, oh my word. This is so much better
Yeah, then I was like, okay
That's gonna lead me into making sure I get the right stuff for the right jobs
And so when we're doing when we're talking about scripture
It can be really easy to understand it and from the lens that we've heard it
And then when we've actually examined it and see what's actually being told we can realize oh
Maybe we didn't quite have it
It's been interesting even our last time that we've been going through tora and i've read these stories
multiple times every time I come back to
The stories of genesis and exodus I see something I didn't see before which I'm like, oh
That's an interesting piece that connects over to here and all these different things
You're not going to get all the context in one go no
And so there's a reason why we tell ourselves these stories and we'd retell them and retell them
Yeah, one of the things I actually really enjoy at the Passover is if you ever have a chance to go to a messianic
satyr meal a
A huge part of that story is just retelling
From creation to liberation through christ and I was doing a satyr dinner and they asked me to host it
And so I was following the script because I am not
Savvy enough to know how this actually needs to go, but I do like to talk which is super shocking to all of you
But as I was telling the story and walking through it
You could actually feel the spirit of god moving in the room just by retelling the story. Yeah, and then I had this thought and I was like
Why don't we retell the story? Yeah, that's not a regular part of like and correct me
Like maybe you can tell me a different experience that you've had. That's not a regular part of church attendance. No
And that's not to say other people don't do it
It's just in my experience. It's not part of something that we put as part of a regular occurrence that we retell the story
No, and culturally in america like we very much operate off of hey
You just need to learn this so you can get through this class and then be done with it
Then you don't need to know it again
And so we can do that with scripture 2 in our teaching and be like hey
We're going to run through this and then we're going to move on
And that's actually not helpful when it comes to understanding biblical literature
When I was in college, I studied music education
And we had this conversation piece that the teacher his name was dan bukvich
So if you you guys ever have a chance to listen to any of his music
He's a prolific composer has some really fun pieces, but we go into the freshman theory class
And he says you all are in four quadrants today
Most of you are in two quadrants
But some of you will be in the fourth quadrant and he puts a big plus sign on the and he says in quadrant one
You are unconscious of how incompetent you are
And I was like, this is going to be good and he's my goal between in this semester is to move you from unconscious
To conscious of your incompetence, you know how little you know. Yep
He's eventually you're going to become conscious of your competence. That's quadrant three
But the goal of every musician is to get to quadrant four where you suddenly become unconscious of your competence
I've taken that with me for a very long time because I believe that spiritual learning is very similar. Yeah
Frequently when we come to the bible the first time we are completely unconscious of how incompetent we are
In understanding the context of the bible over the last 10 years
I would say that i've become very conscious of my incompetence
I am very aware of what I know well and what I don't my hope in the rest of my life is to become competent
Yeah
And then eventually not have to think about it, but it becomes so ingrained in my life
That it just flows out of me. Yeah
And there are pieces you've known me for a while like sometimes like I start talking you already know what i'm going to say before
I finish the sentence. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. We've co-preached and we've had that happen where you're like, and i'm like
I know exactly what rabbit trail he's going down right now
And that's because it just become it's become such a fixed part of my life, right?
Now the hard thing becomes when you have built a context and a fixed point in your life that is built contextually incorrect
Yeah, that's where we talk about pruning off bad things
We talk about pruning off bad theology. Yeah
Some people are really uncomfortable with that
And I said the thing is I want to go back to what is the bible and what does God call us to do?
And I don't necessarily want to put on orthodoxy of traditionalism
In place of what the bible teaches. Yeah
Actually sat in benariel the other day that said traditions just peer pressure from dead people
Yeah, and I laughed almost exactly like that when I got it, uh-huh anyways booby-dab
um
So I want to talk really quickly because I think we just as a church our church
Finished a survey of the book of john the gospel of john
And so when we were talking about that we were talking about the structure of the gospel of john and can you unpack that a little bit?
So john's kind of broken up into two sections
You have the book of signs
Which is the first half?
Okay, and then you have the book of glory which is the second half and it splits right around 11 chapter 11 chapter 12
Yeah, right where that split happens and so you go from chapter 1 through 12
Covers three years of jesus's life like it's it's and if you sat down and read chapter 1 through 12
It would take you 25 minutes 25 30 minutes and then chapter 13 through 21 it covers about a week
Yeah, so you have this shift in writing the shift of style where you're going from
stories of signs of wonders
Scholars teachings all this stuff to where jesus gives a four chapter sermon from john 13 to 17
To just a week of life to where he's declaring who he is
He's at the height of his power the height of his authority in that moment in time
And so that's why we split these up in those two different ways. You have jesus showing who he is
And then jesus telling who he is
Yeah, and so what we have we call those and what a lot of scholars have called that is there's the book of science
And then there's the book of glory because there's this whole thing about i'm going to be glorified to glorify the father
And his glory is going to pour out and there's a lot of glorification happening. There's a lot of talking about the crucifixion
So it's interesting here because the gospel of john actually mirrors the book of exodus in a lot of ways
Yeah, yeah
So like early on in exodus think about this god pours out signs and wonders in the ten plagues in the crossing of the red sea
Manna from heaven which by the way jesus says in the gospel of john i am the man that came down from heaven. Yep
There is a lot of direct quotes from the book of exodus in that section and in the back half
We're there's this conversation about who god is and the glory of god rests on this mountain
It passes in front of moses. Yeah
They really talk about the creation of the tabernacle or this place and they're being given the law
And you compare that with what's going on in the book of john
Now we're actually seeing the completion of everything that had come before in the person of jesus the death bearer and resurrection
And the restoration of all mankind which is very similar to what is happening in the book of exodus
Yeah, and it's very intentional by john and I was actually pointing this out
This is just one piece we're going to pull for you
We're actually going to pull two two different pieces one from john three because it's one of the most familiar stories in the gospels
But first I want to talk about at the end of the book of john
Mary comes and she dips her head in and she sees that jesus isn't there
Right that's probably not how it says but she dips her head into look to see if jesus isn't there
And there are two angels which are not really the focal point of the story
Except that there is a table with an angel in the front and an angel on the back and jesus is closed in the middle
He's not there now
In the book of exodus they create this thing called the ark of the covenant
Do you know what they place inside of the ark of the covenant?
Stone tablets stone tablets representing torah they put mana
from
The desert and they take the eventually it's going to come up in numbers and we'll talk about it
Then the staff that buds that shows that moses and erin
Have the authority that god placed on them and it says that moses goes into the tabernacle and he speaks to god
Between the two cherubim i'm sorry what we're setting on the other side of where jesus was resurrected angels. Oh like they can't
That's probably a coincidence, right?
It's not like jesus said that he was the word made flesh or that he was the manna that came from heaven or that he is the
The high priest in the order of melchizedek. Yeah, john is not doing these things by accident. He is drawing imagery
They're very familiar with yeah
To tell them what jesus is doing because now instead of it being an exodus from egypt
Now it's an exodus from sin and from death. That's awesome. Yeah
Yeah, and so seeing those parallels between john and exodus
Are very important when you're studying this
And some of you are listening to this and you're like I have never heard that talked about
That's not surprising to me. It doesn't surprise me one bit, but there are huge parallels there
Not even just what ben was talking about but just the structure
So understanding the structure of exodus and the structure of john is important because they are structured very similar
You have signs and wonders at the beginning of exodus
You have signs and wonders at the beginning of john and then you go into glorification
On both books on the second half. Yeah, and it becomes incredibly important because john is expectation
Is that you understand the pictures that are being written drawn?
Yeah, one of the other stories that I like to talk about in fact
I was talking about last week while I was when I was preaching with pastor nick
And I talk about john 3 one of the most familiar verses that anybody knows because it's usually the first one that they memorize
Countless people have come to christ through this verse. Okay, so it's probably the most well-known verse in the world
That's john 3 16. It's for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son
Whosoever would believe in him would not perish but have eternal life. Okay
I had the conversation. I said now
When jesus has this conversation with nick edemis and john is writing this book. We have the benefit of knowing what happens in the future
You and I we have the benefit of knowing what happens in the future
When jesus is having this whole conversation then the whole conversation prior to that
With nick edemis, what does nick edemis think jesus is talking about?
Because he still doesn't understand after that conversation that jesus is the son of god once again
Go and read that story
And look for the themes of exodus. It's going to be talking about passing through blood and water
It's going to be talking about the light and dark
It's going to be talking about all sorts of things that are going on
In fact, it's going to talk about the wind moving. You don't see where it is. You just have to follow it
You see the effect of the wind moving
You don't see where it is. You just have to follow it. You see the effects
Like all these different things are connecting back to the exodus
Now I want to explain to you that in the old testament and in judaism there is actually a son of god
Yeah, it's israel
Israel is god's firstborn and guess where it actually comes up
In the exodus. Moses is instructed to say to pharaoh thus saith the lord israel is my son
My firstborn. Okay, so having that context
Now let's go to this conversation between nick edemus and jesus. So now jesus says to nick edemus
For god so loved the world
All of the world all nations that he gave his one and only son
Now nick edemus is mine. Who is he thinking?
Israel
That whoever would believe in him
Would not perish but have eternal life in words right standing with god because it's always been about all nations
Now let's continue on into 17
God didn't send israel into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him
Yeah
It's really important that we understand that jesus is a jewish messiah because jesus steps into the rule of israel
In the world and does what israel was always supposed to do as the representative of israel
He steps in and redeems all of mankind now on a very real level israel wouldn't have been able to do it
That's why jesus eventually comes down
But he actually comes down as a representative of a story that god has been telling for a very long time
The story of jesus isn't a new story. It's the old story made new
Yeah
And now we know that verse is talking about jesus
That verse is talking about jesus
Correct. We know that right nick adidas wouldn't yeah jesus hadn't revealed himself
To nick adidas. Yeah, and please don't mishear me. I'm 100 saying that story is about jesus
Yes, that entire story is about jesus, but jesus is speaking into speaking of what we were talking about earlier
Into a context he's speaking into a context that nick adidas and he's calling him to be like israel is supposed to be
He's speaking a language nick adidas would understand at the same time
Foretelling what he's going to do. Yeah, it's like jesus was a brilliant communicator. Yeah
Just saying that it's so good. It's so good. Yeah
Understanding the context of exodus is going to be really important because you're going to start picking some of these things up
Yeah, luke does it a lot too matthew mark. They also do this. They allude back to the exodus and torah
Yeah, specifically like deuteronomy. We're actually going to go into some of those pieces where the devil has a conversation with jesus
Yeah, we're going to talk through that because he specifically quotes from deuteronomy multiple times in order to have a conversation with the devil
in the desert
If jesus christ thinks that knowing the word of god is important
The guy who literally is the word made flat it might be worth it for us to take a second look
Yeah, and a third look. Yeah
Maybe a fourth look to maybe a fifth. Okay. Yeah, exactly. Don't stop there. Just keep going
So that is the exodus. Yeah
In a nutshell, that's the exodus jesus references it a lot paul references it a lot
There's a lot of call back to the exodus. Um, and so it's an important story for us to know
So don't cut it short
I think that
One of the things that we have to understand is that the exodus is a lot more personal than we make it a lot of times
Yes
Exodus is not just about a nation leaving egypt
It's also about us leaving what we know behind to step into the promised land of what god is taking us to
What it means to follow jesus, correct?
Yeah
It's very difficult to leave egypt. In fact, we're going to talk in probably not as much in leviticus
But more in numbers and deuteronomy the israelites really struggle to leave egypt behind. Yeah, they do
And we need to have patience with them because so do we metaphorically egypt but god as the song says he steps into my egypt
And leads me out. Yep
So good. So this one's going to be a little bit shorter for you guys
We were getting a little long in the tooth in the past, but we just wanted to really like
Emphasize it's really important that we understand this context
Mm-hmm
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Side note as you were talking about like the ark of the covenant
Yeah, and how they put mana from heaven in there my brain went to okay that must have wreaked when indiana jones had that opened
Oh, yeah, the raiders of the lost are
Sorry
That is historically accurate harrison ford is replaying a historical character called indiana jones
Yeah, yeah, sorry
Yeah, this is way much better so much better
Yeah, i'm gonna edit out where you said way much better. This is so much better. Hold on a second
I gotta mute that
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