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Instagram at loveincontext. Welcome to the Love in Context podcast with Ben and Spencer. This is an
unscripted conversation. We have been high-stepping our way through Torah. Today we're going to be
not quite as quickly because we want to stop and talk about this section Genesis 9, 18 through the
rest of the chapter. If you haven't read it, pause the podcast. I feel like we're going to say this a
lot. Pause the podcast, go read your Bible, be familiar with the story. Can you imagine getting
emails and they'll be like, well, it doesn't matter. Read the Bible. This is a weird intro.
We're on the road right now. I think that's maybe too many cups of colby. I feel like I'm about to
phase through a wall. I think it's good that we say pause the podcast because how many times do
you listen to a podcast sitting down doing nothing? Pause the podcast, go find something
better to listen to, play that. That was good. I mean, I'm being real. When I'm listening to
podcasts, I'm doing something, right? To be like, oh, okay, maybe I need to listen to this a little
later after I read this passage. Right? Yeah. If you're driving though, don't look at the passage
right now. Yeah. Like, pull over, stop in the car. Law enforcement, you're welcome. So we're
just coming off this really cool story of the flood. Great children's story, death, destruction,
all that stuff. But there's animals, don't worry. And then you get this great story of God
reaffirming his covenant. You still have a job, you still have an identity, you still have this
calling in your life. Right? And they were coming out and there is this this interesting. So I,
this is interesting here. So starting over his 20, it says Noah, a man of the soil. It's
interesting how we keep going back to the earth. Yeah, isn't it? Okay. The man of the soil proceeded
to plant a vineyard. When he drank some of the wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his
tent. By the way, if you drink a lot of wine, that is what happens. Yeah, hopefully that's not
surprising to you. We're not advocating for that. We're just saying best reality. Yeah. Ham, the
father of Canaan saw his father naked and told his brothers outside. But Shem and Japheth took a
garment and laid it across over their shoulders. Then they walked in backward and covered their
father's naked body. Their faces were turned to each other, turned the other way so they would
not see their father naked. When Noah woke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had
done, he said, cursed be Canaan, the lowest of slaves. He will be to his brothers. Okay,
we're gonna pause there. Okay. There's more to the story. And I think it's worth talking about. So I
am not a, what's the word for like a vineyard person, but I'm kind of looking at this and saying,
okay, this didn't happen overnight, right? No, like he doesn't, he doesn't plant a vineyard. He
doesn't raise grapes. So at very least, like he has to till the ground. Yeah. He has to plant the
seeds. He has to grow the vineyard. He has to have a crop. He has to harvest the grapes. He has to
ferment or like crush them or whatever you have to do to make it actually into like liquid. Then
you have to actually ferment it for it to become wine. So how long of a process do you think this
is? So, I mean, this is just based off very limited Google research, like about 10 seconds of it. But
it says it can take up to three years, three years, right? The three years. And so this didn't happen
overnight. Right? Yeah, this thing. And, and so Noah creates this thing, and maybe he knows what
wine does. Maybe he doesn't. My suspicion is if he's fermenting grapes, he probably has some idea
of what it does. Yeah. Right? Because you're not just like, Hey, you know what, let's just stick a
bunch of stuff out here until it smells nasty and then drink it. Like that's not typically something
people do. So you have probably have some capacity of idea of what it's going to do. So he appears
some interesting stuff in the Hebrew. So the look upon the nakedness is, is an idiom. Now we have,
we have a couple in our church who is who are from Korea. Yeah. And when I speak in idioms,
or you speak in idioms, we often have this like, they get this glassed over look on their face,
like, what are you talking about? I remember one time I said it's raining cats and dogs out. And
they just looked at me and they're like, it doesn't rain cats and dogs, it rains water. Oh,
right. It sounds like you are correct. That is correct. We were doing the music and we were
going a little like the temple was too fast. And I said, we're coming in a little too hot. Now,
if you understand like planes and like, and spaceships, all those different things coming
in hot, like it's burning up, it's going too fast, right? All those different things. But
you don't speak English as your main language. What does hot have to do with tempo? Well,
I could see a look on their faces. They were like, the temperature is fine in here. Yeah,
that's what they were thinking. Is music more difficult when it's odd? Yeah, no. And so,
so idioms like we assume that people know we say cat got your tongue. Another one that is a really
interesting one in English that people who don't speak English as a main language. So if I say I'm
going, I'm fixing to go do something, you know what that means? Because it's an idiom. Yeah. Now,
you understand what that means. If I said, maybe you don't want to let the cat out of the bag,
which if that's just a weird one, it is just like, why do you have a cat in a bag?
Real. Get let that cat out of the bag. And we get to begin with. Yeah. Yes, you should let the cat
out of the bag. Like you can't should not live in a bed. Yeah. So so interesting thing here is in
Hebrew, to look upon nakedness is actually an idiom. Yeah, right. To look on the nakedness of
the father, right. So one interpretation of the idiom is that you sleep with your father's wife,
typically not your mother, we're dealing with a polygamist society. So like, multiple wise spouses
in that society. And another another usage of to look upon the nakedness is would be that there
was a molestation that occurred. Yeah. Or a castration. Yeah. Now, in this particular instance,
a lot of the sages actually make a statement that they believe that Noah was actually castrated at
this point. Yeah. And you're like, well, how did they come up with that? Well, because earlier,
there's a story about these rivers. And there's four rivers. And the rivers typically will
represent like fertility. Noah has how many sons? Three, I cute you. You guys can't see it. But I
threw my fingers up. He's like, Oh, I was reading those figures. Noah has three sons, he comes out
of the ark, and God tells him to be fruitful and multiply. So in order to be obedient to God,
how many kids does he at least have to have? For at least four, right. And, and, and then I did a
little bit more like thinking about this. And it's interesting that when Noah wakes up, and if indeed
he's castrated, he wakes up, he's upset. I get it. Right. Get you get castrated, you're sleep,
probably not a pleasant experience. I'd be upset. Yeah, I'd be upset too. So he gets up and he he
curses. So who's who's the one who actually did this to him looks upon the nakedness? It's ham.
But ham is the son who actually looks on the nakedness. And then Noah gets up and he curses
hams forthborn, forthborn son, Canaan. Right. He doesn't curse ham, he curses Canaan. And not,
not the firstborn, the secondborn, thirdborn, fourthborn. Yeah, I bet. Where are you getting
this? Look in chapter 10, it goes over who, who ham sons are. And, and they're going to track,
track that through that. So it's not just, it's not just a curse on hams light, it's curse on his fourthborn,
likely because now Noah no longer has the opportunity to have a fourthborn.
Now you can subscribe and be like, Oh, Ben, you're full of it. Okay, I don't care. My point is in this
story, we see Noah act very strangely. And I think the thing that bothers me more about this story is
we talked about in Genesis one, two, and three, that God actually hasn't cursed anybody. He didn't
curse anybody. He said, curse the ground because of you. And he cursed the serpent to crawl on the
ground. And then he said, uh, to, to, um, okay. And then he's going to have to wonder, right? But
there's not actually a specific curse placed on people. In fact, earlier in the flood story, God
says, I'm actually reversing the curse. The ground is no longer going to be cursed because of you.
Right? As Genesis says, don't argue with me. Are you with the Bible? Right.
And so has God cursed anybody up to this point in the Bible? No. Who was the first person in the
Bible who actually curses someone? Noah. Noah. Noah steps into the authority of God and actually
curses his grandson. Like guys, this story is messed up. The story is messed up. And, um, there's
a lot of things going on here because the flood story is supposed to take us back to creation.
This story is also supposed to connect us to the fall. Yeah. Right. Which is a messed up story too.
And on a one level, I get it. I get the feeling of Noah. I mean, if so just step in with me here.
He's castrated. He wakes up. He's now lost his ability to, to obey God. Yeah. Right. He no longer
can be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Right. I mean, he can subdue it, but
he's gonna have to do with what he's got. He's gonna have to rely on somebody else to be fruitful
and multiply. And he comes out and he's just angry. And on a real level, I get that. Right.
Have you, have you ever had somebody rob you? Like maybe, maybe feel like they've robbed you
of your ability to follow God. Let's get real here. Like more, more real than we usually get. Right.
I have a ton of church trauma from my history and we went to this church and we believe that God
brought us there. And you know, the reality is looking back, you can see the positive things
that like God didn't through in it through us. And I think that's the real thing. And I think
that's the real thing. Bro, we got chewed up and spit out there. You know, I started as an associate
pastor of that church and there, I mean, if I went through and it's like, started telling some of
the stories, like you'd be like, this is messed up. When I got out of that, like I was, I never
was upset at God, but holy cow, I did not want to deal with the church. I mean, I was just,
I was just so upset and worse than that, my wife who had come to Christ, the campus crusade,
wonderful broken, by the way, campus crusade. She had never seen the nasty side of church and man,
she saw it and we had to process our pain. And guys, I mean, I'm a real, real level. I could sit
on it because I feel like I was robbed, but that's not what Jesus calls me to.
Jesus calls me to something different and Jesus takes my brokenness and makes better. Yeah.
Yeah. And the hard thing when you listen to stories like Ben's is I've always wondered,
I was like, what is going through the people's heads who are causing this pain?
Right? Like, and I don't mean that in the negative, like I've, I have some church trauma
stuff too, but like I remember one, I've had some conversations with some people where they've said
some things that were just downright nasty, but when you back up, I don't doubt their heart.
Right? I'm not doubting their heart. I'm not doubting their intentions. Their execution was
crap, but I'm not doubting their intentions. And so when we're looking at church hurt,
church pain, it's all too easy for us to be like, all right, I am done with this. Never doing that
again. When the reality is the people who were, they might have genuinely been trying to help you.
But in turn, how they did it caused more pain than good. Can anybody relate to that story?
I mean, I can. But I've already, there are my stuff out there, man.
So coming back to Noah here, one thing I find really interesting about this curse is Noah
doesn't curse Ham. Like he doesn't give, he doesn't say, Ham, you did this, you be cursed.
Noah says, I'm going to make this last throughout your family's generations.
And I'm going to curse Canaan, your fourth born son. Okay. Up until this point in the story,
Canaan hasn't done anything to Noah that we know of. So why curse Canaan?
I mean, the only thing that you can infer from a textual perspective, it's a reflection of his own
hurt. Yeah. That, and this is, this is a very big reality is that, and something you gotta understand
if you're going to be at the church, hurt people, hurt people. Right? Like broken people tend to
attack people. And one of the things about the church is this place where broken people come
together. You know? So I was thinking about how much Canaan ends up being a fomart in the
side of the Israelites throughout the rest of the Old Testament. And I mean, really, I mean, even in
capacity to the New Testament, because you're dealing with those regions, right? The Canaanites
end up being a big problem. Like guys, just check out the Canaanites all throughout the Bible.
And all throughout this, it comes from the situation where Noah steps into an authority
that isn't his, does something that God doesn't do and curses his fellow man. Yeah.
I think some, some, some of the things we have to learn about this story, some of the things that it
teaches us and that we walk with as Christians is first of all, sin is intentional. Yeah. Because
we, we all just look at the sin of ham. And I was like, but also I need to look at what brought them
there. Like three plus years of excavation, manipulation, building, creating to create this
wine, this ferment fermentation that then causes drunkenness. Okay. I'm not saying that Noah caused
this for himself. Please don't mishear that. But there's an intent behind the work he was doing,
but there's an intent behind the work he was doing. And so when Ham comes in, if Noah is not drunk,
this is not something ham can do. And if, and if you're thinking like, okay, you're saying there's
an intent behind what he was doing. Absolutely. I'm not saying the intent was drunkenness,
but I am saying you don't do something for three years unless there's an intent behind it.
Right. We're also looking at three years with like modern techniques. I suspect it took a little
bit longer for him. Yeah. I mean, so like nowadays I was reading a little bit more on grapes and all
this. There's tons of different grape varieties. Some are 12 months. Some are three years. Like it
could change a lot, right? There probably wasn't the same variety that we have today. Right.
So, I mean, and sin being intentional, that takes us back to Genesis chapter three. Yeah,
dude. Because Eve says it's good for eating, pleasing to the eye and desirable for gaining
something that I already have. Yeah. Right. What's going on here? Same thing. By the way,
if you're not seeing the parallels between the garden, like coming out, dry ground coming
available, animals are now back, the sky comes out, he plants a garden. Yeah. Suddenly there's
a problem with the fruit. Uh huh. Right. And then the curses are, let me. Right. Different to your
being that God doesn't lay a curse and Noah does. Like guys, sin is intentional. It doesn't
accidentally happen. I didn't go, what's that? I didn't mean to do that. Most of the time when I
fall into something that is outside of God's will, sin, right? Outside of his plan for my life,
outside of the things that's meant for me to operate inside this world correctly.
I didn't do it on accident. Now I won't say that it never happens, but most of the time I do it
intentionally. I say, God, you're holding out on me and I think I deserve this. Or I think this is
good for me. Boy, if there was a more appropriate thing for America, right? If it feels good, do it.
All right. Here's a practical example. Take a spouse who's unfaithful.
Okay. When they come back and they're like, oh, I'm sorry. It was an accident. No, it wasn't.
Uh huh. Right. Let's be real. Like you don't accidentally cheat on your spouse. Right. Like
that's not something that you do. That is an intentional act that pulls you away from somebody
you have committed to. Right. And let's be, we're both, you and I are men. Yeah. And so we have
incited to men. So women, you can hold women accountable. We're going to hold men accountable.
Yes. Guys, it's really easy not to cheat on your spouse. Really easy. It's really easy not to do it.
The question is, do you want to not do it? Yeah. Okay. I know people, they come into this thing
and they're like, oh, well it just happened. I was like, no, it didn't. Like, no, we did not.
I've been married 13 years. Nothing even hasn't even come close to just happening. If something
was going to happen, I was going to be intentional about every step. Or I'm putting myself in such a
bad position that when something bad happens, I can't get out of it. Yeah. One of those two things
is true. Uh, so guys, stop using that complaint. Stop using that excuse. You screwed up, go back
to your spouse and beg forgiveness and see if you can put the broken pieces back together.
Because like we talked about in the story of Adam and Eve, when one person takes a bite and the other
one does, it says, no, that's not okay. That's when restoration forgiveness happens. Right. Now
we're using this as an example, but we recognize that there's going to be people who are listening
to this. We're like, that is a very real situation for them. Right. So we do not want to downplay
that one bit. We are not mitigating how difficult it is and then put a broken relationship back
together. It is extremely difficult. And I will also say that both people have to want to put it
back together. Yes. Because once some things are broken, it has to be both people who want to
restore it. Yes. Forgiveness can still happen. I was like, but both people have to want it.
So coming back to Noah, yeah, this is intentional. You do not plant a vineyard by accident.
Sin is intentional. You do not, you do not be like, oh, well, one day I woke up and tripped over a
rock and voila, there was a vineyard. Yeah. And then I put all those grapes into a bag and then
what turned into wine? Yeah. And then I drank it because I was like, hmm, stinky liquid. Let's
drink that. Ready? This is intentional. Yeah. But it is more than intentional. Sin is not just
intentional. It is also generational. Right. It is something that we carry on from our fathers to our
present to our children. And I think it is really important for Christians to understand one. Okay,
so the intentionality of sin. If we know it is intentional, then we need to set our intentions
on something else. Right. The things that I intend to do are usually the things that I do.
The things that I do not intend to do are things that I tend not to do.
So many others like, wow, that is profound. Okay, but it is true. Right. Like if I do not intend to
do things, I am not going to do them. And sometimes the intentions are not enough.
But if your intentions are not noble, then they are never going to be noble.
I work with students a lot. And one of the challenges I give to high school students is
let your Bible app be the most used app on your phone. Well, how do I track that? Most phones
have that capability of tracking that for you. If not, there are apps you can download to track
that for you. But set that up and see what happens. See how much that changes your life as you are
intentionally drawing closer to God over everything else in your life. As you are intentionally doing
that, you are going to find that your life profoundly changes. You are going to find in ways
that you do not even think were possible that your life is going to change. You are also going to
find that God is going to move through you and in you in a way that you never thought possible.
The other side of that is that sin is generational. So one of the things that I
have learned from God in the last few years is how much generational sin can be passed on.
And I think about, okay, so how many times are you hearing about, oh, well, my grandfather was
a hard man and he was really, he had blah, blah, punishment and all those different things.
And so the father, he is better, but at the same time, he does not necessarily know how to love
his sons well, but he does not beat them. We are talking about fathers now once again, because we
are men and we are going to talk about the things that we tend to identify with more.
Right. You know, you have to make a decision because Jesus Christ reversed the curse in your life.
And this generational sin that goes from generation to generation has no holding in the name of Jesus.
No. By the way, let us just hear this. In the name of Jesus, there is nothing
from your past that can hold onto you. I am not saying this that could be familiar.
It is not going to have a hold on you. So whether that is alcoholism, drug addiction,
sexual addiction, anger, maybe you had a cheating grandfather, grandmother, father, mother,
siblings, or it is you. You say, well, what about my kids? You make the choice as where is it going
to stop? Because you have the finished work of Jesus Christ in your life, the power of the
Holy Spirit, and it is time for sin to stop because it will be generational if you let it be.
And I look at my kids and I am like, everything that I put into my life, it stops here. And I
want to be intentional about that. It stops here. Now they are going to have to deal with their own
stuff. I was like, but the stuff that I brought into this, nope, it stops here.
Well, and I can hear it now. Well, you do not know my story. You do not know my situation.
You do not know what so-and-so has done to me. In one sense, it does not matter because it is all
covered under Jesus. In another sense, your story matters incredibly, an incredible amount because
of who Jesus is. It is a both and. It is not an and or. We often treat that as an and or, but your
story matters, but it is also being redeemed by Christ when you let it be redeemed by Christ.
And then what it does is it becomes a part, it bestills a part of who you are. It is a
transformational part, but it becomes a part where you are now leading out behind a movie
forward into your life of Christ. And you are using that story to show how Christ has changed you.
So good. Yeah. And it is. So the hard thing here is that you say, well, okay, so I have freedom in
Christ, but I still am tempted to X, Y, Z. Yeah. Yeah. You are going to be. Yeah. But it does not
have power over you. So I need I need you to hear something when you step into Christ.
You become something else. The old is dead and the new has come. You are buried with Christ.
You are crucified with Christ and you are raised with Christ. You are seated in heavenly places
with Jesus because your life is actually inside of who Jesus is. You have cast your identity on him.
Now he is giving you your Holy Spirit, his Holy Spirit to go and live it out. You are no longer
a filthy wretch. You are now the righteousness of God. Does that mean you'll never make mistakes?
No, because this old nature still calls back to us, but it no longer has power.
All the powers on the side of Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. We need it. We need to talk about the flip side
to the Noah story. And this is going to be a lot of what ifs right here. Okay. And so please don't
write to us being like, well, this is what the text says. We're doing some speculation. Yeah.
These are these are thought experiments. Thought is this is inviting the context of the Bible
into thought experiments. Okay. What if Noah came out of the boat? He didn't plant a vine.
He didn't get drunk. Right. What if he came out and all this things didn't happen?
Would there have been this looking upon the nakedness? Would there have been this curse on
Canaan? Would the world have been a different place? I would venture to say yes, personally,
because it Noah had a chance of fresh start with a fresh creation in one sense. Right. This story's
it story's been told as a recreation story. He had a chance fresh start, fresh creation to come
out and be like, okay, we're doing things differently. We saw the hate that we saw the anger. We saw the
violence. We saw the pain. But we're not going to be about that. What if after this nakedness
and ham's sin, what if Noah comes out and says, my God is bigger than your sin? Ham, you're forgiven.
Do you think that changes the story? It's interesting that we talked about in the story
of with the apple and I said, you know, Adam bite or Eve bites and then Adam bites and then
their eyes are opened. It doesn't happen when one bites. It happens with the second one bites.
And so the same story here. What happens if Noah is sinned against and instead of cursing, he blesses
Now, obviously, that's not what happens in the story. But what happens when you are cursed and
you utter blessings? What happens when you were attacked and you comfort? What happens when you
encounter hate with love and darkness with light? I think there's an invitation in the story of Noah.
Are you going to let sin be intentional? Are you going to let it be generational? Or are you going
to set the curse aside and let forgiveness come in its place? And I don't want by any stretch of
the imagination. I don't want to pretend like that's easy. So when you were the one who are
sinned against, it is really hard. But that is what puts the world back together. It is. And I
hear the keyboards typing a little bit. I hear it happening. Now, if you're going to come and say,
well, we have to have like when we follow Jesus, we have it all put together.
Yeah, I was just broken. God used broken people throughout the Old Testament. Jesus used broken
people throughout the New Testament. If you are coming at this and you're being like, well, God
doesn't bless ministries where people are broke or where leadership is broken. I was like, dude,
God blesses ministries where leadership is broken all the time. I think he blesses them more. Yeah,
because it's way bigger. Yeah. And so I just wanted to clarify that. If you're coming at this being
like, you're broken, I'm just too broken to make this happen. I have to be made more perfect or
where I have to take more time to be made right. But God, honestly, God does some of his best work
when we're at our lowest. Yeah. In fact, you might see more kingdom come in your world if you're
willing to be broken. You want to see the work of God in your life, be willing to be broken and put
back together however God sees fit. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Engage him in your weakness. Let him be
strong. Yeah. So one last thing I wanted to close on today, because I was actually just thinking
about it and we've talked a lot about these thoughts of, we talk about church trauma and some
different things, right? In John 16 two, right? There's a statement that God is, or Jesus is
giving to his disciples and he says, there's going to come a day, really soon, real soon,
in this case, real soon. Yeah. There's going to come a day when people are going to literally
throw you out of the synagogues. They're going to murder you and they're going to think that
they're doing God's service. Okay. In that scenario, who is they? It would be the Jewish
like people, the leaders, the priests, all those guys, right? And if you're drawing a modern
parallel, it would be church leadership or just churches or different churches. Yeah. And one of
the things that I hear Jesus, an echo of this in your life is that when you go and pursue life with
Jesus, living life with Jesus, the way he wants to, there are going to be some people who claim to
follow Jesus and all they want to do is tear you apart. Yeah. And I'm just going to tell you,
it's coming, it's going to happen. Like there are going to be people that when you want to follow
Jesus, they're coming out of the woodwork to tear you apart. There is entire podcasts, video series,
radio networks, declaring about all the heretics in the world. And they were like, we're contending
for the faith. And I was like, are you? Because it seems like all you're doing is tearing apart
people around you rather than proclaiming the gospel you claim to follow. I would be very careful
when you talk about somebody else. I don't care how bad you think their theology is.
Think about John 16 to am I the one that when somebody else, maybe in an imperfect way is
displaying Jesus, am I the one who's trying to drag him out and murder him and call it service to
God? Yeah. Who is it? Like, who is this God? You know, and I was like, you want it, you want to
defend him. And I was like, but who is this God? While we were dead in our transgressions and sins,
while we were dead, that's not great. He came, he lived, he was crucified, he was buried, he was
resurrected, he ascended and he poured out the Holy Spirit on us. Amen. Right? This is who our God is.
And you think that you need to defend against bad theology?
Dude, our job is to proclaim Jesus to people so that when they see him, they go, I need that.
Maybe the best thing that you can do is pray for those that are different than you
and then show Jesus what. Now I am not saying that when you have a relationship with people,
you never have it for self-conversation. Say, Hey, this seems weird. It's not. It's not.
Like we are huge into theology. We're Bible nerds. We love having these conversations,
but we are very, very careful. We said this in episode one, we're going to be very, very careful
never to call out anybody from this podcast. We will push against ideas, but never against people
because I don't get to be the judge of how God is working in somebody else's life.
I do determine how much God is going to work in my life.
I do determine how much God is going to work in my life. All right. So I want to extend this
challenge to everybody. Are there false teachers out there? Absolutely. We're not contesting that.
Like there are absolutely false teachers out there. Have you been placed an authority to
expel them from their leadership roles? The answer is no. There are teachers I don't listen to
because I know of the heresy that they preach, but I am not the one who's been placed an authority
to expel them from their teaching roles. So my job is to pray for them. My job is to
intercede for them on God's behalf. That's the extent of it. Like my job is not to rail against
them. And then with that display Jesus. Yeah. Like the best thing that you can do in the face of
heretical teaching is to display Jesus. And spoiler alert, you don't display Jesus with the tip of a
knife. No, no. Peter found that out. Jesus said, put it away. Yeah. And then you don't display
Jesus with the tip of a knife. So guys, there it is. There it is. The curse of Noah. I hope we're
helping you kind of just see some things in Torah. By the way, Genesis, just such a good book. I
think every time I go through Torah again, right? I just pick up a lot of stuff about like it's
reoccurring themes over and over again. And I understand like Jesus in the New Testament,
just a little bit better by understanding Torah. Yeah. And I think that's the thing that I
like about it. Yeah. And so if you have not spent a lot of time reading the first five books of the
Bible, dedicate it. Yeah. And also just forewarning, you're going to have to do some
wrestling because some of the stuff's real weird. I actually think next week we have a couple of
weird stories. We do. Yeah. Next week I think it's Tower of Babel, right? Yep. Yeah. All right.
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